Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?

2010-09-03 Thread V S Rawat
Rightly.

Remember a saying if you fight with a pig in mud, you will soon find 
that you are tired and filthy whereas pig is enjoying.

Media is so illogical in this particular issue that better sense is 
going to prevail among the readers and they will be able to see it as 
an orchestrated campaign to hurt ARR.

We can post our views on blogs, to other mailing lists, newsgroups, 
forums.

Rawat

On 9/3/2010 6:31 PM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote:

 Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been.

 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com
 mailto:purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the
 media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info
 about duds?



Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread jemsheed
pI am sure he will be fasting these days. Let god give him more courage and 
confidence in this holy ramzan time.AR. .we all are with you and our prayers 
also./p




Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread Bergin Roy
You spoke for me as well...

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:50 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by
 what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his
 CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell
 us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his
 feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of
 this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is
 not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong
 faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he
 has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he
 can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone.

 I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike
 my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds
 very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even
 begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I
 feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans
 probably feel the same way.

 I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.

  




-- 
www.berginroy.com


Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live

2010-09-03 Thread Bergin Roy
i left a comment... i don't think they'd moderate that.

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.comwrote:



 Seriously, there were some very good editors out there with
 respect...Everything in the media is now changed...I don't know where are we
 heading towards?? So, what do they think are the strengths of our nation??
 Don't know what will be the fate, If they keep doing this to every icon in
 this country...Sigh!!

 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote:

 I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and
 you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in
 that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would
 Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when
 did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging
 it's success?

 I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and
 Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue,
 in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical
 issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create
 anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their
 motivations?”

 That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old
 with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and
 reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds
 but 40-yr old imbeciles.

 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun
 reading it guys
  Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete...
  
 
 http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn
 
  Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds
 
  ibnlive.com
  Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52
 
  The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth
 Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome.
 
  People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music
 professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song.
 
  The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone
 wondering whether this is what the Games deserves.
 
  Poll
 
  Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you?
  Slow-paced
  Lacks punch
  Style of Rahman is missing
 
  While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that
 Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of
 duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has
 turned out to be one of them.
 
  Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and
 Telugu films have remained unpopular.
 
  Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years
 have also complained the composer is repeating himself.
 
  Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating
 the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump
 in quality in some soundtracks.
 
  “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets
 when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim.
 
  Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career
 spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or
 simply faded from memory for lack of fizz:
 
  1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its
 trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of
 the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find
 the punch missing.
 
  2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific
 audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in
 contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like
 ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying
 power.
 
  3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire.
 It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India
 as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German
 company.
 
  4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus
 of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character.
 
  5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and
 Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003
 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album
 that has songs sung by Hariharan.
 
  6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans
 soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and
 Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking
 for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score.
 
  7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such 

Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live

2010-09-03 Thread V S Rawat
Well said, Gops. Politicians are never taken seriously but whatever 
repute of evenhandedness media had has got evaporated by such ugly 
orchestrated campaign. The questions to media are, as you wrote, “Why 
are people so bitter over a song,” and, “what have you done that’s so 
great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and 
belittle their motivations?”

And this particular article will serve an undisputable proof of the 
ugliness of this campaign against ARR.

Thanks.
--
Rawat

On 9/3/2010 5:30 PM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote:

 I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and
 you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in
 that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would
 Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when
 did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging
 it's success?

 I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and
 Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue,
 in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical
 issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create
 anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their
 motivations?”

 That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old
 with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and
 reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds
 but 40-yr old imbeciles.

 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $pawancum...@yahoo.com  wrote:



 Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun 
 reading it guys
 Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete...
 
 http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn

 Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds

 ibnlive.com
 Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52

 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth 
 Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome.

 People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals 
 are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song.

 The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering 
 whether this is what the Games deserves.

 Poll

 Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you?
 Slow-paced
 Lacks punch
 Style of Rahman is missing

 While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that 
 Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of 
 duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has 
 turned out to be one of them.

 Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and 
 Telugu films have remained unpopular.

 Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have 
 also complained the composer is repeating himself.

 Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the 
 legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in 
 quality in some soundtracks.

 “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets 
 when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim.

 Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career 
 spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or 
 simply faded from memory for lack of fizz:

 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its 
 trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the 
 Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the 
 punch missing.

 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. 
 One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary 
 techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de 
 killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power.

 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It 
 had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as 
 the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company.

 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of 
 two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character.

 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ 
 and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and 
 ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs 
 sung by Hariharan.

 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans 
 soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and 
 Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking 
 for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score.

 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had

Re: [arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....

2010-09-03 Thread wiredbeats
This is writing ! Very heart felt and nice.  



Re: [arr] ARR - his name means a lot and keeps me going and inspired!!!

2010-09-03 Thread Roshan
great one, Yeshrao.. loved reading it.

I have always felt that his music had the power of creating positive energy
whenever listening to it.  I don't believe in god or religion.  but his
music is what makes me connect to the spirituality which for me is feeling
smaller, being thankful.. showing gratitude and doing something good.

he has shown me that with his music and life.


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:47 PM, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Today I sat down to think what AR Rahman means to me and ...

 AR Rahman - the name does not just stands for world class music - which is
 a well known fact!

 For me, ARR is also about peace, humility, perseverance, respect,
 inspiration, divinity, politeness, patriotism, wisdom, teamwork, creative
 genius, spiritual, caring, one who respects mother, one who pushes his
 ability every time to redefine something no one else has achieved and so
 many other noble qualities.

 I am deeply saddened by the fact that media does not know the real worth of
 such a lovely Indian and is too quick to forget the pride he has brought to
 our country! ARR should come out of this and redeem his lost pride and
 answer his critics with his music!

 I thought this episode must have created pain within ARR and upset him a
 lot...But then I realized his words of wisdom All fame is God's and God
 given; He does not own anything in this world including fame, money etc...
 Therefore if fame or money were to go away from him suddenly, he stands to
 lose nothing and its again God's wish.

 He is such a great person and proved himself so much that his fame can
 never be diminished, despite petty events like this one...

 Something in me says that this will be a new phase in ARR's career and he
 is going to create several Roja's and Dil Se's all again (though they woul
 be musically quite different). Something in me says that ARR is going to
 create path-breaking scores never before attempted. Something in me says the
 whole world is going to celebrate our man like never before.

 This expectation and my belief that it will be met 100% by ARR is what
 keeps me going crazily after him. I wish and would like him to be regarded
 as the best globally...which is quite within reach given his talents! I am
 waiting for that day..the day when FIFA asks Rahman to score the anthem or
 when Spielberg asks Rahman to score for his film or when Rahman releases his
 own album globally and stumps everyone

  




-- 
---
http://roshanravi.com
http://cssheaven.org


Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread Thulasi Ram
i feel the same way and hope ARR is numb to this.

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by
 what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his
 CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell
 us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his
 feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of
 this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is
 not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong
 faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he
 has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he
 can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone.

 I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike
 my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds
 very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even
 begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I
 feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans
 probably feel the same way.

 I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.

  



[arr] [non-arr] Flames from Crash OST by Mark Isham

2010-09-03 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||
One of my favorite pieces of music... was just listening  felt like sharing... 
truly beautiful stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfK8PLn024


 
 The search is more important than the destination 
- a r rahman -




Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
Good point, Gopal!  Thanks for the reassurance.  I was hoping ARR would handle 
this as he handles everything elsematurity, healthy detachment, calm mind.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:

 Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him,
 this will not either
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by
  what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his
  CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell
  us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his
  feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of
  this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is
  not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong
  faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he
  has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he
  can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone.
 
  I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike
  my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds
  very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even
  begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I
  feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans
  probably feel the same way.
 
  I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
 
   
 





[arr] ARR Fans Stand United

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which 
has raised some heat around here.  Whether we agree or disagree, like a song or 
album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with one 
another, one thing is for certain:  We all love ARR and that's why we're here.

ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers 
and admirers too.   



Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread Rivjot
awesome!! I am no more worried now.. 
Let media do whatever they are doing (we cant do much to stop them anyways), 
they are just making fun of themselves by publishing rubbish stuff.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:

 Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him,
 this will not either
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by
  what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his
  CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell
  us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his
  feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of
  this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is
  not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong
  faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he
  has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he
  can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone.
 
  I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike
  my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds
  very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even
  begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I
  feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans
  probably feel the same way.
 
  I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
 
   
 





Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||
That's what I thought... I think what he posted on FB today, pretty much 
reflects how he's feeling!

Gr8 to know that he is untouched by all this sham!

 
 The search is more important than the destination 
- a r rahman -





From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 4 September, 2010 12:47:40 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

  
Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this 
will not either


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what 
is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG 
song 
and now him and his music in general.  Anyone close to ARR just tell us in 
short 
how he's handling all of this?  I am concerned about him, his feelings, how 
he's 
taking all of this.  I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with 
dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him.  
Rahman's 
a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he 
has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are 
loyal..I 
just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great 
music to shut up everyone. 


I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my 
brother.  I would die to save his life.I'm serious.  I know that sounds 
very 
melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel.  I can't even begin 
to 
describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way.  I feel like 
I'm spiritually connected to him in some way.  A lot of ARR fans probably feel 
the same way.

I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.



 



[arr] Re: Abbas Tyrewala tweets on JHS and CWG song

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
I'm getting pretty excited  Wish Sunhidi's song was there!  ARR and Sunhidi 
are a rare combo!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@... wrote:

 http://twitter.com/AbbasTyrewala
 
 Q: @isuryamitra http://twitter.com/isuryamitra sir,i heard sonu is singing
 for jhs..is it true...
 
 AT - yes. one that I think will be one of the most gorgeous songs this year.
 
 
 Q: @rabdulzali http://twitter.com/rabdulzali rahmans CWG anthem is
 superflop,any insecirities for JHS nw???
 
 AT -  :) no. and never write off an AR song in a couple of days.
 
 Q: @QaisarImtiaz http://twitter.com/QaisarImtiaz Has
 @sunidhichauhan5http://twitter.com/sunidhichauhan5Sung In JHS ?
 
 AT - she had. and brilliantly. but the situation changed and that song went
 out of the film.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheers,
 Madhavan.R
 Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!





[arr] AR Rahman spellbound with Komaram Puli:Allu Aravind

2010-09-03 Thread Thulasi Ram
 can someone translate please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetOWdTEEhQfeature=player_embedded


Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

2010-09-03 Thread Ramesh R
No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions the 
total contract value with ARR.
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676

There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just 
composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do 
not 
know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his charity work 
would you think that he would overcharge for something like this?

The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to publish 
whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of the 
criticism 
about the Games has now been focused solely on the music. 


A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with releasing 
the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time it seemed that 
the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and not because of TRP 
ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after masala stuff to sell. 
The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article doesn't even have an author 
mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who blogs or tweets, gets quoted in 
articles as if they're music buffs with expert opinions.

Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and 
diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles. The 
media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it.

And for the devious side in you...
When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them 
change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how 
ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive that 
the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available in India 
and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending that thought 
here are some tweet-lines:


* IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in 
Sanskrit 
dubbing.
* V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song 
either- 
Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used Shakira.
* V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that 
Kerala 
is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead. 


* TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana 
Gana 
Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing the 
national anthem.
* Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain 
wants 
Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since it is too 
slow. There is not enough Shakira in it.
* Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards 
U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated since 
the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India.







From: ravi ravis...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM
Subject: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

Its now like every cat  dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the RTI 
be approached to know the real facts?
Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and 
are 
rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. 
There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback on 
FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using 
their wide viewable medium as the source of News. 


  

[arr] Re: ARR Fans Stand United

2010-09-03 Thread Rahul

Always will STAND UP for Him bro ...

Rahul


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which 
 has raised some heat around here.  Whether we agree or disagree, like a song 
 or album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with 
 one another, one thing is for certain:  We all love ARR and that's why we're 
 here.
 
 ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers 
 and admirers too.





Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

2010-09-03 Thread Roshan
lol man! your list is so hilarious.  i am so going to use it on the
twitter.. let's all start tweeting this.

what's your twitter id btw, just so i can tag you.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ramesh R triscod...@yahoo.com wrote:



 No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions
 the total contract value with ARR.
 http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676

 There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just
 composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do
 not know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his
 charity work would you think that he would overcharge for something like
 this?

 The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to
 publish whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of
 the criticism about the Games has now been focused solely on the music.

 A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with
 releasing the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time
 it seemed that the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and
 not because of TRP ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after
 masala stuff to sell. The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article
 doesn't even have an author mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who
 blogs or tweets, gets quoted in articles as if they're music buffs with
 expert opinions.

 Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and
 diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles.
 The media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it.

 And for the devious side in you...
 When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them
 change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how
 ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive
 that the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available
 in India and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending
 that thought here are some tweet-lines:


- IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in
Sanskrit dubbing.
- V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song
either- Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used 
 Shakira.
- V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that
Kerala is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead.
- TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana
Gana Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing
the national anthem.
- Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain
wants Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since 
 it
is too slow. There is not enough Shakira in it.
- Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards
U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated
since the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India.




 --
 *From:* ravi ravis...@gmail.com
 *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM
 *Subject:* [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

 Its now like every cat  dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the
 RTI be approached to know the real facts?
 Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising
 and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the
 headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the
 negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian
 News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News.



  




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http://cssheaven.org


Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

2010-09-03 Thread Ramesh R
Feel free to use/modify them as you please. I don't have a blog, twitter or 
facebook. Just not my kind of thing.




From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 4:55:54 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

  

lol man! your list is so hilarious.  i am so going to use it on the twitter.. 
let's all start tweeting this.  


what's your twitter id btw, just so i can tag you.


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ramesh R triscod...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions the 
total contract value with ARR.
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676

There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just 
composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do 
not 
know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his charity work 
would you think that he would overcharge for something like this?

The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to publish 
whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of the 
criticism 
about the Games has now been focused solely on the music. 


A few  weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with releasing 
the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time it seemed 
that 
the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and not because of TRP 
ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after masala stuff to sell. 
The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article doesn't even have an author 
mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who blogs or tweets, gets quoted in 
articles as if they're music buffs with expert opinions. 


Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and 
diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles. 
The 
media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it.

And for the devious side in you...
When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them 
change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how 
ludicrous it is. We already  know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive that 
the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available in India 
and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending that thought 
here are some tweet-lines:


   * IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in 
 Sanskrit 
dubbing.
   * V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song 
 either- 
Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used Shakira.
   * V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that 
 Kerala 
is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead. 


   * TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana 
 Gana 
Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing the 
national anthem.
   * Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain 
 wants 
Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since it is too 
slow.  There is not enough Shakira in it.
   * Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards 
U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated since 
the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India.







 From: ravi ravis...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM
Subject: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?


Its now like every cat  dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the 
RTI 
be approached to know the real facts?
Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and 
are 
rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. 
There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback 
on 
FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using 
their wide viewable medium as the source of News. 







-- 
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http://cssheaven.org







  

Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread Sath Murthy
Trust me, the first thought came to my mind was this. How ARR will take this? 
After a while i realized that all these won't bother ARR. He has seen it all in 
the past 18 years. All i want is, ARR should come out with many more mind 
blowing compositions and shut all those nonsense people who have no better work 
than to criticize the hard work of any person.

We Are Always with you AR Rahman
Satheesh Murthy.




From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 12:17:40 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

   
Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this 
will not either


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what 
is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG 
song 
and now him and his music in general.  Anyone close to ARR just tell us in 
short 
how he's handling all of this?  I am concerned about him, his feelings, how 
he's 
taking all of this.  I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with 
dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him.  
Rahman's 
a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he 
has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are 
loyal..I 
just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great 
music to shut up everyone. 


I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my 
brother.  I would die to save his life.I'm serious.  I know that sounds 
very 
melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel.  I can't even begin 
to 
describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way.  I feel like 
I'm spiritually connected to him in some way.  A lot of ARR fans probably feel 
the same way.

I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.



 


  

Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?

2010-09-03 Thread Taskin



Rehman sir's music helped me overcome so many dreadful moments in my life, that 
i feel indebted to him. Just like all your loyal fans, I'm also with you. I 
feel going up to him and giving him a hug. I don't know how he's feeling right 
now, after all these fiasco, but I'm very depressed. It's like a nightmare to 
me. It's not because of many people didn't like the song, but for the 
allegations that have been raised. They are questioning his dedication. In the 
last 10-15 years the most popular and surreal patriotic songs are all his 
compositions. How can the media be so ignorant. How ca they so easily forget 
what he has done for this country. Very sad, very sad. I know i shouldn't be 
saying this but I think ARR should leave bollywood and start doing Hollywood 
movies exclusively and concentrate more on his global career. Because it seems 
everyone is going with the media. I feel like India doesn't deserve you sir.
Sorry for being a bit confrontational, but when it comes to ARR I'm very 
emotional.
  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:

 Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him,
 this will not either
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by
  what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his
  CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell
  us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his
  feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of
  this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is
  not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong
  faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he
  has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he
  can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone.
 
  I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike
  my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds
  very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even
  begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I
  feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans
  probably feel the same way.
 
  I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
 
   
 





Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com

2010-09-03 Thread Anil Wadghule
Hi friends,

Site is now ready. Check it out http://ilovecwganthem.com/

Your feedback is needed to make it better and fulfill our initiative.

Please suggest what can we add here more? Can somebody help me make it look
better and improve text

Source code of site is available at
http://github.com/anildigital/ilovecwganthem

Yaaro please help :D



On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@yahoo.inwrote:

 SuperWe fans should do somethingPlease take some initiative!!!

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, RAMESH b.j KRISHNAN trichyman2...@...
 wrote:
 
  Wonderful initiative! Please do it ASAP.
 
  --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Ravi Alagappan acer...@... wrote:
 
  From: Ravi Alagappan acer...@...
  Subject: Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 11:54 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Great ...do that soon
 
  On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:08 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Excellent initiative...Please go ahead...
 
  From: Anil Wadghule anildigi...@...
 
  To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:50:37 PM
 
  Subject: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Guys,
  I love CWG theme by ARR. I am thinking to start a dedicated website on
 it.
  Can you suggest good domain name for it?
  Currently I have IloveCWGTheme.com in my mind?
 
 
 
  Please suggest any other good domain in your mind?
  --
  Ani
 




 

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[arr] get ready for JHS

2010-09-03 Thread Thulasi Ram
hope this album is a runaway hit.


Re: [arr] ARR Fans Stand United

2010-09-03 Thread Sath Murthy
Agree totally... We love ARR as a human first, then comes the rest. We are 
proud 
to be a fan of ARR. Nothing can ever change that.

Jai Ho ARR.





From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 1:23:52 PM
Subject: [arr] ARR Fans Stand United

   
This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which 
has 
raised some heat around here.  Whether we agree or disagree, like a song or 
album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with one 
another, one thing is for certain:  We all love ARR and that's why we're here.

ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers 
and admirers too. 



 


  

Re: [arr] [non-arr] Flames from Crash OST by Mark Isham

2010-09-03 Thread Roshan
great stuff indeed. the movie is my favorite too :)

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:47 AM, || V i s h w e s h ||
vishws...@yahoo.comwrote:



 One of my favorite pieces of music... was just listening  felt like
 sharing... truly beautiful stuff...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfK8PLn024


 * *The *search* is more important than the destination 
 - a r rahman -


  




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[arr] ARR’s students leave listeners enthralled

2010-09-03 Thread A.R.Rajib
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The air was filled with exquisite music, from Mozart’s symphonies to
Beethoven’s entrancing melodies. Students of the KM Music Conservatory, the
school started by India’s most famous music composer A.R. Rahman, showed
their sublime skills and high musical standards at the KMMC piano recital.

Their flair and passion for music was in evidence, as the students, of
varying ages, showcased symphonies ranging from W.A. Mozart’s Arioso to
special songs arranged by the Mozart of Madras A.R. Rahman himself.

Dr Surojeet Chatterji, handpicked by Rahman, trained all these students in a
short span of six months. “These students are my babies. They have learnt
music in a little over six months. Rahman saab brought me from California to
teach these students and it feels great to make a complete circle and come
back to India after living so many years overseas.”

Among the performers, there were many who stood out. Some of the hot
favourites were P. Shridhar, who enthralled the audience by playing
‘Breakers on the Ocean’ and Jerine Joseph who played ‘Prelude’ in D-minor
and received much applause. Then there was Prince Mulla, who moved his hands
with skill and grace on the ivory keys and brought the piano to life by
playing Webber’s Scherzo. Another whizkid was S. Arjun, whose composition
dedicated to A.R. Rahman left the audience spellbound. Being visually
challenged, he has overcome the world and proved his passion for music.

Madam Fathima, A.R. Rahman’s sister, reports, “Every student’s recital was
mind-blowing. Dr Chatterji is another diamond in the crown of KMMC. He has
tapped every individual’s talent to the fullest extent.”
Pritpal Halwarvi, a parent proudly notes, “Dr Chatterji has brought the
piano to life. The school provides a great platform for children to showcase
their talent. KMMC should have many branches all over the country and every
branch should have another Dr Surojeet Chatterji.”Adds Pietra Brettkelly, an
expat and a documentarian from New Zealand, “It’s amazing to see the love
for music in these students, it’s incredible. I had tears rolling down. When
the students stated that they had a connection between their love for nature
and music, it proved that their musical abilities were out of sheer
interest. Now I am tempted to learn music from Dr. Chatterji!”


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~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*


[arr] Re: Project ARRDB - Where are we standing?

2010-09-03 Thread niyant_dalal
Sam, 

Great - that def. looks v comprehensive. Must've been a lot of effort I'm sure. 
Any chance you can convert the VSD into a standard image format like JPG and 
send it across? 

Thanks! 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, samsujith_k samsujit...@... wrote:

 http://www.4shared.com/file/3_BIOAIK/MusicDB.html
 
 
 I work as a Database Developer and I am hobby musician. Combining those two 
 interests I once put some effort into creating a database around ARR's music. 
 My goal was to capture all the information that is usually associated with a 
 typical ARR's album (Track Lists, Singers, Musicians, Engineers involved, 
 Studios involved etc). But besides this, I also wanted something along the 
 lines of Music Genome Project, wherein some musical attributes are identified 
 in each ARR's song/album. And the third goal (though, I assume it would be a 
 bit hard to reach) is to identify the gear used in ARR's songs. This would 
 include the software used, the different kinds of Mics used, Effect Boxes 
 (Equalizers, Compressors etc) used and so forth.
 
 The first goal of getting various credits involved is the one that can be 
 easily done. This is usually available in different formats and that could be 
 massaged per the DB design.
 
 The second goal of associating some musical attributes can be a bit hard and 
 involves some work from musically knowledgeable people. I did some as sample 
 data and we could proceed along those lines (please look into the 
 attachment). 
 
 The third goal of getting all the gear used might be the toughest one (and to 
 an extent could be ARR's trademark secrets, so cannot be let known to general 
 public), but if any data/information is be available through ARR's associates 
 or other knowledgeable people, it would add a great deal of knowledge. In the 
 west we see a great deal of information being shared on the gear being used 
 and how. I would love to see that kind of information coming out of our 
 Indian musicians and studios. ARR himself mentions some of the 
 gear/production techniques he uses in his interviews with Music vendors (for 
 example, on Apple website, ARR mentioned he processed drums in Ringa Ringa 
 through Native Instruments Guitar Rig and so on).
 
 Anyways, I came up with a scratch design some time back. Attached in this 
 email are the various files regarding this (will explain what each file is 
 shortly). The third goal which I mention above is not yet included in this 
 design. But the other two are in there, atleast in a first draft format.
 
 The attachment in the link (http://www.4shared.com/file/3_BIOAIK/MusicDB.html
 ) has the following:
 1. ARRMusic.bak - This is the backup file of the database I built in SQL 
 Server 2000.
 2. MusicDB ERD.vsd - This is the ERD (MS Visio format) of the above database. 
 This should give you an idea of what I tried then.
 3. Object Script.sql - A Simple script used to create the tables and some 
 sample views
 4. Sample Data Entry.sql - A script I used to enter some sample data (most of 
 this data is accurate, some changes might be required here and there).
 5. Sample Queries.sql - Some typical queries
 6. Export - Sample Data.xls - An export of the sample data entered above in 
 excel format
 7. Export - Sample Queries.xls - Some sample data queried based on the data 
 entered.
 
 Please let me know if I can be of any assistance in this matter. Or if this 
 design would be of any use (we can change as needed).
 
 Regards,
 Sam





[arr] Article in webdunia

2010-09-03 Thread kishore kumar
Hi friends,
 
This is the most biased article I have read recently. It says Delhi 
6,VTV,Endhrian,KP was having mediocre songs. It would be great if somebody 
could translate this. Sorry that it is in malayalam and I need to rush to 
another location and wont be able to translate this at this moment. 
 
http://malayalam.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/currentaffairs/1009/03/1100903065_1.htm
 
Regards,
Kishore


  

Re: [arr] Re: ARR - his name means a lot and keeps me going and inspired!!!

2010-09-03 Thread jamshid TC
Well written ..moving!

--- On Fri, 9/3/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] Re: ARR - his name means a lot and keeps me going and inspired!!!
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 12:14 PM







 



  



  
  
  I love what you wrote and I completely agree!!!  Well said!!!



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote:



 Today I sat down to think what AR Rahman means to me and ...

 

 AR Rahman - the name does not just stands for world class music - which is a 
 well known fact!

 

 For me, ARR is also about peace, humility, perseverance, respect, 
 inspiration, divinity, politeness, patriotism, wisdom, teamwork, creative 
 genius, spiritual, caring, one who respects mother, one who pushes his 
 ability every time to redefine something no one else has achieved  and so 
 many other noble qualities.

 

 I am deeply saddened by the fact that media does not know the real worth of 
 such a lovely Indian and is too quick to forget the pride he has brought to 
 our country! ARR should come out of this and redeem his lost pride and answer 
 his critics with his music!

 

 I thought this episode must have created pain within ARR and upset him a 
 lot...But then I realized his words of wisdom All fame is God's and God 
 given; He does not own anything in this world including fame, money etc... 
 Therefore if fame or money were to go away from him suddenly, he stands to 
 lose nothing and its again God's wish.

 

 He is such a great person and proved himself so much that his fame can never 
 be diminished, despite petty events like this one...

 

 Something in me says that this will be a new phase in ARR's career and he is 
 going to create several Roja's and Dil Se's all again (though they woul be 
 musically quite different). Something in me says that ARR is going to create 
 path-breaking scores never before attempted. Something in me says the whole 
 world is going to celebrate our man like never before.

 

 This expectation and my belief that it will be met 100% by ARR is what keeps 
 me going crazily after him. I wish and would like him to be regarded as the 
 best globally...which is quite within reach given his talents! I am waiting 
 for that day..the day when FIFA asks Rahman to score the anthem or when 
 Spielberg asks Rahman to score for his film or when Rahman releases his own 
 album globally and stumps everyone








 





 



  






  

[arr] Swagatham guitar bit ringtone [1 Attachment]

2010-09-03 Thread vijayaraj -
I have attached the initial guitar part of the song.Use it as your 
ringtone.Lets 
do our bit by using it as  our ringtone.
Vj



Re: [arr] [non-arr] Flames from Crash OST by Mark Isham

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
Superb!  Has such an Eastern feelvery meditative and spiritual...
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote:

 great stuff indeed. the movie is my favorite too :)
 
 On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:47 AM, || V i s h w e s h ||
 vishws...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  One of my favorite pieces of music... was just listening  felt like
  sharing... truly beautiful stuff...
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfK8PLn024
 
 
  * *The *search* is more important than the destination 
  - a r rahman -
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 ---
 http://roshanravi.com
 http://cssheaven.org





[arr] Re: get ready for JHS

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
Release date?  Tracklisting?

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote:

 hope this album is a runaway hit.





[arr] 2 ARR Movies in one day!!!!

2010-09-03 Thread chella govindarajan
Just Revisited 2 great Films by ARR... This time with Concentration on BGM and 
acting skills of actors.. Was just astonished to see the way the BGMs proceed 
on.. 


The 2 films were The Legend of Bhagath Singh and Iruvar.

The BGMs exactly matched the situation. That too for Iruvar it was typically 
set 
as though it was composed during the older days. For legend of bhagath singh it 
was so patriotic. 


The Music of  TLBS is almost forgotten by many. The Mahive and jogiya songs are 
good medium paced melody songs... Cant get better. The song of Desh mere, mera 
rang de basanti, sarfaroshi ki tamanna(both versions) can make any one 
understand what INDIA was to the three freedom fighters. Perfectly placed. 


I am stopping here as i am running out of words

Thanks/Best Regards
Chella Govindarajan R (a) Uppili R



Re: [arr] ARR Fans Stand United

2010-09-03 Thread Roshan
I love him no matter what.. for his music has been with me in my ups and
downs.. it's impossible to leave the music and musician that has been part
of your entire life.


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Sath Murthy sath.mur...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Agree totally... We love ARR as a human first, then comes the rest. We are
 proud to be a fan of ARR. Nothing can ever change that.

 Jai Ho ARR.

 --
 *From:* AJ purev...@yahoo.com
 *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 1:23:52 PM
 *Subject:* [arr] ARR Fans Stand United



 This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late,
 which has raised some heat around here. Whether we agree or disagree, like a
 song or album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed
 with one another, one thing is for certain: We all love ARR and that's why
 we're here.

 ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his
 followers and admirers too.


  




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Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
Ramesh,

You crack me up man LMAO!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote:

 lol man! your list is so hilarious.  i am so going to use it on the
 twitter.. let's all start tweeting this.
 
 what's your twitter id btw, just so i can tag you.
 
 On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ramesh R triscod...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions
  the total contract value with ARR.
  http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676
 
  There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just
  composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do
  not know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his
  charity work would you think that he would overcharge for something like
  this?
 
  The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to
  publish whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of
  the criticism about the Games has now been focused solely on the music.
 
  A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with
  releasing the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time
  it seemed that the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and
  not because of TRP ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after
  masala stuff to sell. The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article
  doesn't even have an author mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who
  blogs or tweets, gets quoted in articles as if they're music buffs with
  expert opinions.
 
  Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and
  diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles.
  The media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it.
 
  And for the devious side in you...
  When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them
  change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how
  ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive
  that the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available
  in India and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending
  that thought here are some tweet-lines:
 
 
 - IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in
 Sanskrit dubbing.
 - V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song
 either- Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used 
  Shakira.
 - V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that
 Kerala is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead.
 - TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana
 Gana Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing
 the national anthem.
 - Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain
 wants Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since 
  it
 is too slow. There is not enough Shakira in it.
 - Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards
 U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated
 since the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India.
 
 
 
 
  --
  *From:* ravi ravis...@...
  *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM
  *Subject:* [arr] Should the RTI be approached?
 
  Its now like every cat  dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the
  RTI be approached to know the real facts?
  Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising
  and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the
  headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the
  negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian
  News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News.
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [arr] Re: Sukhwinder joins in now!!!

2010-09-03 Thread Roshan
I really love the sound that snip  :)

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:13 AM, kitcha_swamy kitcha_sw...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Yes, the comedy never stops. I keep saying, these spineless people should
 be ashamed of talking about Rahamn. Where was sukhwinder before chaya
 chaya?. Now he is saying that he would like to sit down and talk with Rahman
 as though there is something wrong with AR.

 Damn snipwinder,
 Just do your job. AR needs no free advice. He is happy and the BEST at what
 he is doing. You guys don't do the bad apple act.

 AR Sir,
 for heavens sake, please stop working with these unprofessional people.
 Please, you don't deserve any of this NON-SENSE.

 I'm seriously shedding tears for what is happening around to our BOSS. I
 was not able to control my tears when I saw our BOSS winning OSCARS for
 India and now I'm doing it again, when I realize the amount of recognition
 that AR achieved for India has been forgotten.
 SHAME on the MEDIA !!!

 Jai Ho !!!
 Swamy (aka kitcha)


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@... wrote:
 
  well, another comedian to entertain us!...ROFL!!!
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 s_girish2003 s_girish2003@ wrote:
  
   Another one takes adv of this situation...
  
  
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms
  
 

  




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[arr] Re: CWG SONG song is really good

2010-09-03 Thread Elanchezhian
yeah...and you know what...I was hearing this song while driving the car. When 
the first Rock guitar part came and when ARR sang the first Lets Go!! line, 
automatically I stepped on the throttleNow doesn't that prove that the song 
is thumping enough?...To hell with the critics:-x

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sreekar8191986 sreekar8191...@... 
wrote:

  i have been following all these digests from our group and heard so much abt 
 this song. today i thought i shud listen to this song first...i heard 
 it...Its fantastic song...
 
 i was like 'what the hell is wrong with peoples ears?
 
 may be poeple expected a very fast paced number  like maro maro or 
 soemthing. as a music fan, i dont care what is the purpose of song..
 i got one more great number to listen...and am also very happy to find out 
 that rahman is still the rahman i admire..his magic didnt fade...may be he 
 his song coudnt impress a set of people or didnt serve the purpose it was 
 intended for...
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, RaijenB raijen03@ wrote:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oiFX6KjCf0
  
  who ever talked with logic and reality about this problem i really
  appreciate u guys!!
  thanks srinivas for backing ARR..
  
  please leave ARR !!! thats the Fact!!
  
  adei rasana kettavanukale thayavau seithu rahmana summa vidungadaa
  pleaseda ... summa irungaiyaa!!
 





[arr] Tweet from @V1SH4L

2010-09-03 Thread Gopal Srinivasan
I really like Rahman's new track from Jhootha Hi Sahi. It's vintage Rahman, and 
I've always been a fan.:) @shreyaghoshal, as always, ROCKS!!


Sent via BlackBerry 


[arr] Re: Tweet from @V1SH4L

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
Vishal who?  Bharadwaj or Vishal-Shekar?

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:

 I really like Rahman's new track from Jhootha Hi Sahi. It's vintage Rahman, 
 and I've always been a fan.:) @shreyaghoshal, as always, ROCKS!!
 
 
 Sent via BlackBerry





[arr] Loving Rhyme School for Kids!!!!

2010-09-03 Thread AJ
Got a hold of Rhyme School thanks to a kind soul from here!  I love it, and 
more importantly, my kids love it!!!  THey sing along to the songs and ARR and 
his students have created some really nice musical arrangements that add so 
much to the basic melodies of each rhyme.  You can definitely hear ARR's touch 
in the rhyme school songs. 

I have so many rhyme and kid CDs, but my kids only want to listen to this one!! 
 

Thank you ARR and KM and Katrina You are helping to make my kids happy!!!



Re: [arr] Re: Tweet from @V1SH4L

2010-09-03 Thread Roshan
https://twitter.com/V1SH4L

vishal dadlani of Vishal - Shekar.



On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:37 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Vishal who? Bharadwaj or Vishal-Shekar?


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:
 
  I really like Rahman's new track from Jhootha Hi Sahi. It's vintage
 Rahman, and I've always been a fan.:) @shreyaghoshal, as always, ROCKS!!
 
 
  Sent via BlackBerry
 

  




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Re: [arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print

2010-09-02 Thread Vijay Mohan Iyer
Please meet up with Vithur or Faiz near AM studios and get your tshirt from
them.

Its also a good idea to gift these t shirts to people close to you so the
more you take, the better will be your contribution to a good cause.

Special thanks to Vithur for selflessly committing himself to this project.


On 9/2/10, Chella rcgr...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 I need the T-Shirt... Tell me the details... Cost... How to get it from u..
 I am from Chennai Only

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Vithur vith...@... wrote:
 
  A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble
  cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls
  mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from
  me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details.
 
  --
  regards,
  Vithur
 

 




-- 


Thanks
Vijay

+91 93234 49747

www.arrahman.com
www.facebook.com/arrahman
www.twitter.com/arrahman


Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN

2010-09-02 Thread mb4zap®
I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE 
WITH YOU ARR!

 -Moin Ali




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote:

 
   As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth 
Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative 
image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they 
will 
for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai 
blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need 
some 
news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use 
of 
it by 

 disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the 
 ACTUAL 
WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are 
responsible for all these..the media is watching our 
group/forum..which 
is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to 
stop 
all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this 
time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are 
truly 
A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE 
WITH YOU...RAHMAN.
 
 Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending 
negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter 
the 
negative messages.
 
 Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from 
Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present 
situation.



 


  

[arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...

2010-09-02 Thread live for arr Live
yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they called 
2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just spoiling 
rhaman's 
name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the song, and he was not 
allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his call. it was really 
disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep after that


  

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread Roshan
for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics
and media.

they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme
music.. but they can't even organize the event properly.

it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while
both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but
idiots.

I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media..
but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface
movie. lol

so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way.  our
government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always
do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in
media and politics, we will stay that way forever.

while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much
to spend for a song and performance.  they should probably have focused more
on how to manage the event and bad press.   i didn't mean that AR didn't
deserve it.  but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common
men will think that it was a rip off.

we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is
still an issue.

Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously
that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the
reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka.

I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not
the forum for that. so,  this here is my last post about CWG song.   and
hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly
deserves.





On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan 
gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote:



 if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the
 mindset.

 I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or
 a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these
 ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and
 not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything
 has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting
 CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why
 Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we
 can do better!

 When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks
 about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is
 a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than
 Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it,
 because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every
 Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn
 around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed
 the song for what it is and it became a huge hit!

 In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie.
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and
 go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.



 --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote:


 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM




 Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is
 spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs
 sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation.

 I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from
 Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each
 word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even
 imaging to compose music like this!

 to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they
 were just dump struck and chewed their own words..

 *( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in
 Black and White days..killer track!!)*

 So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing
 can change the mindset.

 Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams,
 incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song
 can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would
 have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would
 have said the same.

 We are dealing with politicians here...remember!

 So chill.

 regards

 Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org 
 http://www.cradleindia.org

 Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http

[arr] My heart is burning...

2010-09-02 Thread live for arr Live
Looking at the TV, Net and other channels, the way some ppl are commenting 
about 
ARR, my heart is burning. Now we know who are real follweres of ARR. Aadesh 
Srivastav says in headlines today, that y ARR was chosen instead of Pandit 
Ravishankar or Zakir hussain. Loius banks is critisicing ARR..

ARR is just having having an off day like Sachin in the cricket field. He will 
be back with a bang with Jootha hi sahi !


  

Re: [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You

2010-09-02 Thread RAM KUMAR
Yes ARR sir, we are with you. These seem to be some sort of bad times for you. 
With the grace of God, I am sure you will come out stronger and I pray to God 
to 
be with you all the times.

Once again, WE ARE WITH YOU. OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.






From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 2 September, 2010 7:15:20 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You

  
I am with AR as well. Please convey to AR that his fans are with him.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nandatronics nandatron...@... wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I wish and I desperately want to meet ARR and say to him that we all 
fans are with him. I request Gopal/ Vijay or some one close to ARR to convey 
that we are liking his CWG anthem and we are with him. I myself not able to 
resist from the kind of comments and thrashing the media and politicians are 
doing for the CWG and I don't know how ARR is feeling about all these. 

 I also felt that ARR should never accept any requests especially if 
 politicians 
are involved but what else he could have done, even if he had refused to 
compose 
the song earlier, all these politicians/ media and other music composers wud 
have commented that after after Oscars ARR has got some head weight and hence 
refused to compose for CWG and they wud have made it the headlines everywhere. 
As our media and politicians are know for the blame game.
 
 Even God cannot satisfy all humans So I request ARR not to get affected due 
 to 
these negative comments and allow his creative mind peace to be disturbed.
 
 ARR We All Love You, We Know Your Worth, Quality, Originality, Hard Work and 
 We 
Love your CWG theme as well. Good Job Keep Going.



 



Re: [arr] CWG anthem of the GOD

2010-09-02 Thread Amith Chandhran
I don't think he's referring to AR. See the sentence, he says 'all
creatures' and not 'all creations'.

Thanks,

-

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote:



 and, who is that GOD you are referring to ?  AR Rahman ? last time I
 checked, he is a living human being.




 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:50 PM, stharirahman stharirah...@yahoo.co.inwrote:



 All creatures of GOD are wonderful.

 There is an proverb in tamilnadu
 'Donkey does not know camphor's smell'

 but we know our god's gifts - the every songs are always great.
 his efforts to complete a composition are wellknown.




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[arr] Jhoota hi sahi one Song ( teaser ) Releasing today !

2010-09-02 Thread A.R.Rajib
http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631

-- 
*- Regards

~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*


Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)

2010-09-02 Thread manisha madhavan
You are most welcome.
It was in answer to the question:
There has been criticism that your music is not original?

http://www.pvv.org/~kailasan/interviews/chennai_news032000.htm




From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:51:30 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with 
SOME 
Positiveness. :-)

  
Great post Manisha. Relief among boring CWG posts.
Thanks again.

Btw,In which interview he said ' I am inspired by beethovan,mozart,bach.. ' ( 
point 2 ). If you have the link
please share. thanks.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote:

 Wonderful wonderful Wonderful
 
 Very good post Manisha. Thanks for this.
 
 Lets all dive deep into this post and observe the essence
 
 On 9/1/10, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@... wrote:
  Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught
  my
  attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the most
  relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5.
 
 
  1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard
  recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of
  the
  church.
  People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front
  where
  people can appreciate your work.
  The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere.
  I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to have
  instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine
  nuances,
  that is enough for me.
 
  2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already there.
  I do
  a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach, Beethoven, Mozart,
  reggae, rock and Carnatic music — my favourites. As far as possible, i try
  to be
  original. The rest is up to Allah.
 
  3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It is
  just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our own
  selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the best,
  you
  will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very necessary
  for
  creation. I mainly work by instinct.
 
  4. Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra
  dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love… The
  inspiration,
  therefore, is a divine one..
 
  5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're bound
  to
  be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you earn in this
  lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get you the awards,
  but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes, that's the real
  Reward!
 
 
  Have a great month all :)
  ManishaM
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 regards,
 Vithur



 



Re: [arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?

2010-09-02 Thread A.R.Rajib
No offense meant to anyone !! I dont like watch comedy or romantic movies ,
they sound too boring to me ! It doesnt actually mean therez anything wrong
in it !! it just they  are not off my taste ! I know u write BIG reviews , i
have read them so many times ,but i tend to skip them whenever possible !!
May be because there are so many unknown words used ,many times i had look
for a dictionary :P ( There are so many unknown words here ,even in this
mail :P ) Anyway .. I dont mean anything else by this !! There are so many
types of fans here ,most of them do diff kind of things.some1 finds rare
stuffs , someone posts official news/infos...and so on ... So u r one of
them and i have no prob whatsoever with u !! I dont know why u r taking this
in a wrong way ! All is well :-) I just enjoy the information , downloads
,pics ,videos ,interviews ,experiences part !! And may be some more insights
on music also !! If i love something ,i would just say I just love it ..I
wouldnt go analyzing it ..it sounds bit complex to me,specially when it
comes to ARR's music...The most lovable thing i have found as off now !! May
be I am just way too frank that's why !!

When someone posts an praise mail,some like it ,and some obviously dont like
it ! then the fight of words begins !! I dont like this kinda situation here
!! It wasnt here 2 years ago...but it is now .. !! So may be i am so much
disturbed  by all this that i had to request for put a hold on those praise
mails !! Please i meant no offense to anyone !! Please forgive me if i've
hurt anyone else !! It wasnt what i wanted !

For a start  Try reading this one  Matthew Islam A.R.Rahman Interview
CBSO.dochttp://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YD1_TObPEac-FVMz-M63y76OD66JVRIoUe8zcLoAqiykQB5EaAcJ2BuDSCHS8We8_ojhi2VeNkz1f3ng2E1DR9fY6_nWcLg/Matthew%20Islam%20A.R.Rahman%20Interview%20CBSO.doc


I think i can read this hundreds of times without getting bored of it ! may
b i am bit biased towards my countrymen here :P

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:57 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Rajib,

 I appreciate your request for experiences and rare stuff.  That should
 certainly be more a part of our group's discussions.

 However, this is a FAN group.  As fans, we praise and appreciate ARR.  A
 lot of us are emotional about ARR and his music and hence express our
 emotions here too positively in praise of him.  I don't see anything wrong
 in that.  If you don't appreciate that part of our group, that's fine, but
 please don't expect others to suddenly rake in praises for ARR when a lot of
 us do feel emotional about him and his music.  It only comes naturally to a
 lot of us.

 Now, I don't approve of being a fanboy and throwing praises to each and
 every ARR song or release.  I also appreciate constructive criticism and I
 have been critical of ARR's music in the past.

 I agree with the overall theme of your post that either extreme is not
 goodtoo much praise and too much negativity.

 Some here have alluded and insinuated that I only write about ARR in a
 positive way or write large reviews just to attract attention from ARR and
 create hype.  That is utterly and completely false.  Those who know me
 personally know that I am sincere about my write ups about ARR and his music
 and that I just don't hype things up just to attract praise or ARR's
 attention. For me, it's a form of self expression, almost like another
 artthe art of appreciating ARR and his music. I repeat, I do NOT
 consider myself a fanboy and I do NOT create writeups just for hype and
 praise.  I have much better things to do in my life like being a father to
 my 2 small chlidren, working a professional job, being a good husband and
 son, and being a good citizen in general.  I'm a lot more secure about
 myself than some of you think I am.

 So, those of you in this group who like to throw barbs at me every now and
 then, please stop as your accusations and insinuations have no bearing or
 ground whatsoever except your crooked thinking.  You don't know me
 personally.

 Rajib, I hope you were not alluding to me your post and I hope you were not
 trying to throw a barb my way.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote:
 
  If i can talk about myself here , I find it a waste of time to even
 praise
  ARR.Everyone can praise him in hundreds of different ways , using
 thousands
  of different words.Therez no end  to it !! and there should not be
 any,but
  all those praising mails doesn't amuse me much !! Share experiences
  instead,they r more  interesting !!
 
  Many times i skip all those praising mails !! I dont find them
  interesting,unless it is informative , NOT emotional. and therez no point
 of
  saying negative things about him. Seriously i dont find the need of it
  unless u want a big attraction from here ( I am sure some people is very
  successful in it ) !!
 
  Let's keep this emotional praises and negativity aside and be informative
 !!
  try collecting some rare info

[arr] Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?

2010-09-02 Thread Aakarsh
Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran  CWG song, it just occurred 
to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, 
that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical song. 
Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa or Behne 
De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long time since we 
had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the classical 
composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it was a 
recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last classical music 
based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound very Hindustani in 
tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. The song from 
Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that is more of 
fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli 
is a slow devotional number. 
I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water 
songs. Been long time. 

Regards
Aakarsh
     
    


  

[arr] most diffucult song composed by ARR

2010-09-02 Thread riyazeth
I remember reading a post long time back that the most difficult song that 
would have have been composed by ARR was Thee Thee from Thiruda THiruda, in 
terms of the arrangement and programming tools available at that timewhat 
other songs can you guys think of???

Ryaaz



Re: [arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print

2010-09-02 Thread Vithur
Pls send me individual emails, and not to the groups...



On 9/2/10, Chella rcgr...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 I need the T-Shirt... Tell me the details... Cost... How to get it from u..
 I am from Chennai Only

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote:

  A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble
 cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls
 mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from
 me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details.

 --
 regards,
 Vithur






-- 
regards,
Vithur


Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)

2010-09-02 Thread Madhavan Rajan
Great post!! I completely agree...

Let's discuss something else instead of the negativity going around the
media...I personally request members not to post cheap comments from various
sites that don't bring any value to our man or any one in this group for a
purposeful analysis. Posting such things will only increase hatred among
people, some may get angry, some may criticize other music directors, and so
on which is totally uncalled for...Let's not add fuel and allow it to
grow...Let's bring the positive vibes back again...

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:40 AM, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.com
 wrote:



 Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught
 my attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the
 most relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5.


 1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard
 recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of
 the church.
 People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front
 where people can appreciate your work.
 The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere.
 I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to
 have instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine
 nuances, that is enough for me.

 2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already
 there. I do a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach,
 Beethoven, Mozart, reggae, rock and Carnatic music — my favourites. As far
 as possible, i try to be original. The rest is up to Allah.”

 3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It
 is just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our
 own selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the
 best, you will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very
 necessary for creation. I mainly work by instinct.”

 4. ”Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra
 dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love… The
 inspiration, therefore, is a divine one..”

 5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're
 bound to be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you
 earn in this lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get
 you the awards, but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes,
 that's the real Reward!


 Have a great month all :)
 ManishaM

  




-- 
Cheers,
Madhavan.R
Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!


Re: [arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...

2010-09-02 Thread Manaf
Leave them. Take it as silly..

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote:



 yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they
 called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just
 spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the
 song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his
 call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep
 after that

  




-- 
*
*
*Regards

*
*MANAF

*


Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???

2010-09-02 Thread Shamil Sharif
Yes , its international, so original song should be in english, and also 
in various languages too.
Song slowly growing after repeat hearings.
Rahman magic!
 
AR Rahman - His music for ears for years





From: vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 1:07:38 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???

  

Actually hindi is NOT the national language of India it's the princial official 
language (for govt. administration etc.)India has MANY national languages 
actually..

this is from Wikipedia:

The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi, 
while English is the secondary official language.[2] The constitution of India 
states that The official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari 
script.[3] Neither the Constitution of India nor Indian law specifies a 
National language, a position supported by a High Court ruling.[4] However, 
languages listed in the Eighth Schedule of the Indian constitution are 
sometimes 
referred to, without legal standing, as the national languages of India.[5][6]

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote:
 
  Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ??
 
 Because India's national language is Hindi.
 
 
  Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like..
  Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United
  Kingdom  etc..
  Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National
  Language..
  But even the song should be in English version too..
  so that it ll reach all over the world..
  i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has..
  So it's better to release in English too..
  otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'.
 
 I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in 
 other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath 
 Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language?
 
 --
 Rawat






  

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread Gopal Srinivasan

Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: catchg...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the 
same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like 
the gospel truth?


Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com
Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics
and media.

they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme
music.. but they can't even organize the event properly.

it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while
both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but
idiots.

I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media..
but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface
movie. lol

so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way.  our
government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always
do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in
media and politics, we will stay that way forever.

while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much
to spend for a song and performance.  they should probably have focused more
on how to manage the event and bad press.   i didn't mean that AR didn't
deserve it.  but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common
men will think that it was a rip off.

we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is
still an issue.

Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously
that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the
reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka.

I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not
the forum for that. so,  this here is my last post about CWG song.   and
hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly
deserves.





On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan 
gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote:



 if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the
 mindset.

 I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or
 a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these
 ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and
 not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything
 has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting
 CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why
 Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we
 can do better!

 When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks
 about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is
 a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than
 Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it,
 because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every
 Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn
 around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed
 the song for what it is and it became a huge hit!

 In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie.
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and
 go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.



 --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote:


 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM




 Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is
 spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs
 sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation.

 I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from
 Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each
 word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even
 imaging to compose music like this!

 to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they
 were just dump struck and chewed their own words..

 *( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in
 Black

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread Gopal Srinivasan
How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the 
same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like 
the gospel truth?


Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com
Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics
and media.

they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme
music.. but they can't even organize the event properly.

it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while
both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but
idiots.

I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media..
but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface
movie. lol

so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way.  our
government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always
do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in
media and politics, we will stay that way forever.

while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much
to spend for a song and performance.  they should probably have focused more
on how to manage the event and bad press.   i didn't mean that AR didn't
deserve it.  but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common
men will think that it was a rip off.

we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is
still an issue.

Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously
that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the
reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka.

I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not
the forum for that. so,  this here is my last post about CWG song.   and
hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly
deserves.





On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan 
gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote:



 if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the
 mindset.

 I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or
 a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these
 ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and
 not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything
 has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting
 CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why
 Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we
 can do better!

 When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks
 about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is
 a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than
 Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it,
 because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every
 Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn
 around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed
 the song for what it is and it became a huge hit!

 In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie.
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and
 go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.



 --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote:


 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM




 Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is
 spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs
 sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation.

 I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from
 Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each
 word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even
 imaging to compose music like this!

 to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they
 were just dump struck and chewed their own words..

 *( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in
 Black and White days..killer track!!)*

 So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing
 can change the mindset.

 Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams,
 incomplete works and New

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread Roshan
well.. if it is not true, i will be the most happy one here :)

thanks gops,  you always give hopes.



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote:



 Sent via BlackBerry
 --
 *From: * Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 +
 *To: *arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *ReplyTo: * catchg...@gmail.com
 *Subject: *Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

 How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in
 the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it
 like the gospel truth?

 Sent via BlackBerry
 --
 *From: * Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com
 *Sender: * arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *Date: *Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530
 *To: *arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *ReplyTo: * arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take



 for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics
 and media.

 they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme
 music.. but they can't even organize the event properly.

 it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while
 both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but
 idiots.

 I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media..
 but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface
 movie. lol

 so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way.  our
 government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always
 do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in
 media and politics, we will stay that way forever.

 while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much
 to spend for a song and performance.  they should probably have focused more
 on how to manage the event and bad press.   i didn't mean that AR didn't
 deserve it.  but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common
 men will think that it was a rip off.

 we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is
 still an issue.

 Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously
 that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the
 reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka.

 I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is
 not the forum for that. so,  this here is my last post about CWG song.   and
 hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly
 deserves.





 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan 
 gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote:



 if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the
 mindset.

 I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka
 or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these
 ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and
 not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything
 has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting
 CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why
 Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we
 can do better!

 When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks
 about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is
 a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than
 Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it,
 because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every
 Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn
 around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed
 the song for what it is and it became a huge hit!

 In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie.
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and
 go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.



 --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote:


 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM




 Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is
 spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs
 sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation.

 I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from
 Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each
 word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman

[arr] Cry Cry - First promo song from JHS

2010-09-02 Thread $ Pavan Kumar $
First song promo from JHS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GWj1_3b-7Y


Each and every word is dedicated to CWG song bashers..please take it, with 
love.. 



  

[arr] Cry.. Cry...

2010-09-02 Thread Ram R
http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments

Simple but catchy song!

Jhoota hi sahi !


-- 
Regards,
Ram


[arr] Re: Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?

2010-09-02 Thread sureshmechnit
Aakarsh,

I am sure Rahman will compose a classical song again, when he composes music 
for a film like Sangamam or Water. The stories of all of the other films 
you mentioned has no scope for classical songs like Narumugayae. And I know 
that you were just wishing and not complaining.

Smile,
Sureshkumar.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh...@... wrote:

 Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran  CWG song, it just occurred 
 to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, 
 that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical 
 song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa 
 or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long 
 time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the 
 classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it 
 was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last 
 classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound 
 very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. 
 The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that 
 is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And 
 Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number. 
 I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water 
 songs. Been long time. 
 
 Regards
 Aakarsh
      
 





[arr] Re: most diffucult song composed by ARR

2010-09-02 Thread Elanchezhian
I felt, oru koodai sunlight was really complex!!!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, riyazeth riyaz...@... wrote:

 I remember reading a post long time back that the most difficult song that 
 would have have been composed by ARR was Thee Thee from Thiruda THiruda, in 
 terms of the arrangement and programming tools available at that timewhat 
 other songs can you guys think of???
 
 Ryaaz





Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u

2010-09-02 Thread Gayathri
I tend to disagree with this point. Lack of appreciation is not a reason to 
leave one's field. What happens if Hollywood failed to appreciate his work 
tomorrow? Do you want him to leave Hollywood as well? 

Personally, I don't want ARR to leave Bollywood or Kollywood (or whatever other 
woods we have in the film industry). Working against the tide has always been 
his style I believe, and he will succeed in this again, regardless of 
government projects or not.

We can't be expecting every songs of ARR to be appreciated and his past 
accomplishments to be remembered. Then again, this is also not the first time 
ARR has been criticized by the media and public alike. There's just so much of 
negativity going on right now that people are failing to see the beauty in the 
CWG theme. I'm pretty sure that it's only a matter of time before people will 
start praising the same.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chris Raj chris78_...@... wrote:

 My thoughts on the controversies..
 
 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political 
 influences 
 and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as 
 CWG  board.
 
 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and 
 beome 
 more popular ICON on hollywood...
 
 3. No  Indian assignments for another few years and surely  people would come 
 beyond ARR for great music
 
 Raj
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@...
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes 
 these 
 guys forgotten u
 
   
 Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) 
 or 
 gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. 
 :-) 
 So, there's no need to leave India.
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote:
 
   
 sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose 
 music 
 for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough.
 
 --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@...
 Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
 To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM
 
 
   
 http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
   
 
 
 
 
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 Sent from 127.0.0.1





Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u

2010-09-02 Thread kishore parayath
The problem is..that there is some projects which ARR can't deny.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:24 AM, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Chill guys..AR has seen even more harsher critics.I want AR to work on the
 projects he likes and gets inspired the most irrespective of whether its
 Government, Private, Government aided and anything else.


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chris Raj chris78_...@... wrote:
 
  My thoughts on the controversies..
 
  1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political
 influences
  and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge
 as
  CWG board.
 
  2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and
 beome
  more popular ICON on hollywood...
 
  3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would
 come
  beyond ARR for great music
 
  Raj
 
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@...

  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes
 these
  guys forgotten u
 
 
  Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a
 flop) or
  gets another international award, people will forget this controversy
 too. :-)
  So, there's no need to leave India.
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote:
 
 
  sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose
 music
  for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough.
  
  --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:
  
  
  From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@...

  Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
  To: arrahmanfans 
  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM
  
  
  
  
 http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
  
  
  
 
 
  --
  Sent from 127.0.0.1
 

  



Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?

2010-09-02 Thread kishore parayath
ARR's T20 song was rocking..


Re: [arr] Why CWG song is targeted by...

2010-09-02 Thread Surya Chivukula
your are absolutely right dude i am convinced with your arguments 

--- On Wed, 1/9/10, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] Why CWG song is targeted by...
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 9:32 AM


  





Why CWG song is targeted by...


Opposition - The name itself says Opposition, what more can one expect from 
them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the 
country didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this.


Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. Just 
to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are 
publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to 
criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick and 
harry..


Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their 
displeasures about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important 
things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. 
After all, they are the easy targets you see.


So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that why 
only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the 
most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for that 
song..


Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine reasons 
for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to 
believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's 
all the time..and when Rahman gives them the album  with 90's touch, they say 
that the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch...




Just my opinion...not to hurt any one...












Re: [arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?

2010-09-02 Thread Gayathri Chandrakasan
Actually, going beyond doesn't necessarily mean to surpass something. It can 
also mean to be different or away from something. In that light, probably ARR 
would have meant that CWG theme would be something different than Waka Waka 
rather than what was interpreted by the media.

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:43 PM







 



  



  
  
  He said we would do something beyond Waka Waka. I think he meant 
something different but his choice of word can be easily interpreted as 
surpass. I was surprised by his response initially. But having seen and heard 
almost every AR interview in the last 10 -12 years, i just ignored it as 
inappropriate choice of word.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven niven...@... wrote:



 which he had famously claimed his tune would surpass???

 

 Did Rahman mention this? I am very doubtful!!!

 

 Niven

 

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote:

 

  http://movies.indiatimes.com/News-Gossip/News/AR-Rahmans-theme-track-for-CWG-rejected/articleshow/6472955.cms

  

  Regards

  Aakarsh

   

  

 








 





 



  






  

Re: [arr] Orchestral Theme Composition

2010-09-02 Thread Karthik Subramaniam
Good job Kitcha.
I like it .

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:18 PM, kitcha_swamy kitcha_sw...@yahoo.com wrote:



 AR... AR... is all I think about when making Music from home. I just made
 this little soundtrack kind of a theme with pure inspirations from AR's
 works. The idea came when I was listening to AR's masterpiece BGM in the
 movie Indian. The scene where the Indian would be hiding from the cops
 driving the mortuary van. The music would come during all those escape
 sequences. You should hear that BGM. The music will RIP through you :)

 Well, i'm just a novice and its only an inspirtaion. Would be happy if I
 get some comments on this piece :).

 The link to the theme is :

 http://www.muziboo.com/kitcha/music/orchestral-theme-with-harmonies-original-composition/

 Thanks,
 kitcha

 



Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:

2010-09-02 Thread Gayathri
As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who
are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and
music redefining?

Whose music taste are you talking about? ARR's? Kishore's?

Giving an opinion is definitely acceptable. But making it to sound like
a fact is not acceptable. I wouldn't mind if someone feels that Jai Ho's
music is path breaking...maybe it is for them. But if he says it as a
fact, then yes, I would have a problem with it.

Likewise, I wouldn't mind if Kishore (or anyone for that matter) thinks
that Ghajini is a mediocre or below average album.  But when you
undermine another person's interest/taste for liking the same, esp when
you quote something like there are people to praise any mediocre or
below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini),  then yes, you can bet that
I'll have a problem with that!

Btw, I don't like Ghajini but that doesn't make it a bad album. I hope
you get my point.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_naga...@... wrote:

 As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with
 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking
 and music redefining?

 Btw, I liked Ghajini.


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan
gayathri_ck17@ wrote:
 
  When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we
to judge what is mediocre and what is not?
 
 
  --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote:
 
  From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@
  Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the
following statement:
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image
is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did
not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that
Rahman's image made ppl like his works.
 
  Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's
pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people toÂ
praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and
bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.
 
  Â
  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and
pathbreaking accomplishments.
 
 
  Â
  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to
me sounded extremely biased.
 
  Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made
people like whatever he composed rather than the music.
 
 
  A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of
true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image
and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that
dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good
music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional,
it does take time for the music to sink in, th
 
 
  This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex,
unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to
accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is
why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often
complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and
innovativeness factors.
 
 
  Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and
still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have
been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with
Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just
because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who
are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and
which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by
the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
 




Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job

2010-09-02 Thread Surya Chivukula

your are right dude let promote the song through social networking too
--- On Wed, 1/9/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote:


From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job
To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 11:43 PM


  






Play the CWG track all the freakin time, promote it, play it in your car, 
house, office, if you are a DJ..play it loud in your club. Just play it all the 
freakin time in front of other people...let them all get a chance to grow into 
the track.


Time for Fans to do the job. Remember, this rarely happens with AR.Infact 
never. 


---


My charity at Cradleindia.org and music at wiredbeats.com 












[arr] Again..being Critics..now CWG

2010-09-02 Thread Anil Kumar
Rubbish, I dont think its worth talking about it, We all deep inside know that 
the song is excellent, why would you want to compare 2 songs falling way apart 
in genres, please ask shakira to compose a shehidiye (Alaipayuthe), she 
cannot...I will stop listening to ARR is anyone else does,
 
AR Rahman is at a different level, 
 
I still dont understand what people along with all you fans are expecting, his 
songs are as good as ever, Listen to them more and more, i bet you you would 
like them, I am sure we are not in a position to what to expect from him, which 
is leading to all this confusion, dont just blindly compare, while listening to 
a song - listen to that song only and thats it, why would you want to rate or 
compare. If the media is going ga ga, let them, why would you want to add you 
blah blah to it.
 
I like all his compilations, i dont need anyone to tell me whats good or whats 
not, please decide for yourself if you want to continue doing it or not.
 
Thanks for Reading
Anil



  

Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)

2010-09-02 Thread Anil Kumar
Good one, nice composition, there lot of minor things in the song which make it 
very attractive.

--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 10:58 PM


  



Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE

Music : Alphons
Lyrics : B.R Prasad
Singer : Shankar Mahadevan
Rap by : Geethu

Give me your valuable feedbacks.

Regards.

ALPHONS JOSEPH

MUSIC DIRECTOR
3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III
Changampuzha Nagar
South Kalamassery
Cochin-33









  

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread diya
I too very strongly feel it's not upto his sky high standards. When it's AR 
Rahman,there is just no way to avoid unrealistic expectations. His repertoire 
has been consistently unrealistic to say the least! I don't think people 
expected a song similar to waka waka, but equally catchy and engaging (actually 
much more). It's a legitimate and natural expectation to have.

I feel his creative freedom was constrained in case of this song by a long list 
of demands and specs for the song. They should have simply let him compose 
it his way and not try to put their own minds to it. He's not a machine! Nor is 
a song built to a list of specs!

All said and done, it really is ok to fail to meet expectations once in the 
blue moon. It does not take away anything from his greatness. I see no need to 
make an issue about it.

To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any 
project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any form! 
You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter how big 
or important they are!

Cheers!



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... 
wrote:

 if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the 
 mindset.
 
 I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a 
 Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas 
 would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not 
 now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has 
 become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, 
 it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's 
 Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do 
 better! 
 
 When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about 
 comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge 
 hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. 
 If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she 
 didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and 
 Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that 
 they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what 
 it is and it became a huge hit! 
 
 In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. 
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great 
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go 
 around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just 
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty 
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.
 
 
 --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@... wrote:
 
 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@...
 Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman 
 is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs 
 sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. 
 I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from 
 Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each 
 word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even 
 imaging to compose music like this!
 to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they 
 were just dump struck and chewed their own words..
 ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black 
 and White
  days..killer track!!)
 So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing 
 can change the mindset.
 Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, 
 incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song 
 can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would 
 have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would 
 have said the same.
 We are dealing with politicians here...remember!
 So chill.
 regards
 Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org 
  Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http://www.wiredbeats.com  





[arr] ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''

2010-09-02 Thread A.R.Rajib
 ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''
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The industry is abuzz with the recent news that the *Commonwealth
Games*http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html
** officials now want A R Rahman's Rs 5 crore theme track *Swagatham* to be
'recomposed'. Fellow musicians talk to IBNLive about their reactions to the
rumours...

 Singer Shaan feels that Rahman as a composer has his own beliefs about his
compositions. Shaan says, “Rahman generally takes a brief and takes it ahead
from there. What I would like to say is that the CWG officials should work
on their own shortcomings and pull their act together.” He adds, “We are so
scared of getting humiliated in front of the whole world with the CWG. Don’t
waste time finding faults in Rahman.”

 Kavita 
*Krishnamurthy*http://connect.in.com/krishnamurthy/profile-1900597.html
** has been busy traveling and admits she hasn’t had the time to hear
Rahman’s composition. However, she points out, “For any composer, for
example if my husband has been commissioned to compose a song...from the
beginning to the end, the organizers are always involved. While the entire
song is taking shape, they (organizers) are involved. If there are certain
changes to be made, the composer should have been alerted from step one.”
She adds emphatically, “It is bad for the reputation of any musician. It is
very hurting.”

 [image: A R Rahman at an event]

 Music director *Anu Malik*http://connect.in.com/anu-malik/profile-24443.html
** has not heard *Swagatham* either. He, however, explains, “I have not
heard the song but the broader thing is…Rahman is a gifted composer. It all
depends on what brief had been given to him. For the kind of money that has
been paid (reportedly 5 crore), it is a huge amount. I am sure if Rahman has
composed the theme track, it must be very good. But if something takes about
four, five or six months, was the brief given in the first place OK? The net
reaction to the track has not been that good. At the end of the day, Indians
are very emotional towards their music.”

 Music director Bappi Lahiri admits he has not heard the song. He says, “I
have not heard the song yet and therefore would not like to comment on the
matter.”

 By Sujata Chakrabarti


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html
-- 
*- Regards

~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*


Re: [arr] CWG anthem 2010 and Increasing Criticism

2010-09-02 Thread Manaf
I wish AR shouldn't compose new tune ... Becoz if ARR did so , it may be
consider as the victory of  CRITICS .

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Rafid rafid.nuhu...@yahoo.com wrote:



 The anthem is being bashed and blamed like anything every nook and corner.
 Many have forgotten what ARR has achieved in the past. He has been the
 inspiration to many current and up-and-coming music composers. Many
 composers copy him that many people in general don't know and they just like
 the typecast songs of other composers and say, `wow, what a composition, ARR
 has lost his touch way back, why doesn't he compose songs just like as he
 did in 90's?' Some envious people have been awaiting an opportunity to
 slander him, and now they have got their move and keep hurting him. Being
 fans, we can't bear it at all. In this situation, what I think is that ARR
 should come up with a mass appeal new anthem before the CWG starts and the
 song should be applauded and liked by whole lotta people on the first
 hearing – that will make the critics dumbstruck. I really badly need ARR to
 compose a new song before CWG strikes up. Will it happen?

  




-- 
*
*
*Regards

*
*MANAF

*


Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:

2010-09-02 Thread jamshid TC
Yes, Please spare ghajini.
 
and yes, please don't make assumptions.we are here for a reason. the reason why 
we bacame the FANS. we are not analyzing the music of a debutant Music 
director here.18 years is not short period or a shortime wonder!
 
so , better assumption would always be  okay..this is not my type ..but there 
are a lot who like this. Or  This is my Type! but yea, there could be others 
who don't like it.
 
otherwise what we are doing is doubting ourselves here!
 
Regards
Jamshid
 


--- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following 
statement:
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:39 PM


  



As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with
'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking
and music redefining?

Btw, I liked Ghajini.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... 
wrote:

 When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge 
 what is mediocre and what is not? 
 
 
 --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote:
 
 From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@...
 Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following 
 statement:
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because 
 of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, 
 one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like 
 his works.
 
 Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's 
 pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise 
 any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other 
 sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.
 
  
 Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking 
 accomplishments.
 
 
  
 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
 
   
 
 
 
 This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded 
 extremely biased.
 
 Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like 
 whatever he composed rather than the music.
 
 
 A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true 
 music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a 
 brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just 
 go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because 
 Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for 
 the music to sink in, th
 
 
 This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, 
 and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) 
 rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is 
 necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown 
 due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. 
 
 
 Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong 
 according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of 
 Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are 
 not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to 
 it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If 
 they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion 
 is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.










  

Re: [arr] Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?

2010-09-02 Thread Manaf
I am eagerly waiting for another songs like Sangamam...

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Aakarsh aakarsh...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran  CWG song, it just
 occurred to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from
 Iruvar, that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure
 classical song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa
 re Ud jaa or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been
 real long time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which
 was the classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee,
 since it was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the
 last classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that
 sound very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats
 in 2008. The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like
 song that is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And
 Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number.

 I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water
 songs. Been long time.

 Regards
 *Aakarsh
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Re: [arr] most diffucult song composed by ARR

2010-09-02 Thread Manaf
Before some years in an interview in a magazine ( i can't remember the name
) ARR said that he faced some difficulties to compose  Maya machindra 
from indian..

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, riyazeth riyaz...@hotmail.com wrote:



 I remember reading a post long time back that the most difficult song that
 would have have been composed by ARR was Thee Thee from Thiruda THiruda, in
 terms of the arrangement and programming tools available at that
 timewhat other songs can you guys think of???

 Ryaaz

  




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[arr] Re: Cry.. Cry...

2010-09-02 Thread Elanchezhian
WoW...WoW.really a simple but catchy song!!!.ARR doesn't speak 
anything, his works speak for him!To all bashers, Ippo 
vaangadaa:D...:D...:D...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ram R ramkumar.ramachand...@... wrote:

 http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments
 
 Simple but catchy song!
 
 Jhoota hi sahi !
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Ram





[arr] Re: SUPPORT CWG theme music

2010-09-02 Thread Niven
Can we as a group do anything to support boss's theme music like making online 
votes etc to voice out our liking and spread the word around us using all the 
social networking tools to get votes for the theme music?

Niven

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Manaf mana...@... wrote:

 Leave them. Take it as silly..
 
 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they
  called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just
  spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the
  song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his
  call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep
  after that
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...

2010-09-02 Thread Elanchezhian
In tamil there is a saying, aayiram kaigal maraithaalum, aadhavan 
maraivathillai which means, even though a thousand hands are spread, they can 
never hide the sun!!!...Our Boss is like a Sun for Indian music, so these media 
guys cant do anything!!!...They will start praising him as soon as he wins his 
next oscar!!!...Till then, we'll have to just enjoy their discussions:D

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Manaf mana...@... wrote:

 Leave them. Take it as silly..
 
 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they
  called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just
  spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the
  song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his
  call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep
  after that
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [arr] Cry Cry - First promo song from JHS

2010-09-02 Thread Sudan
Rashid n Shreya ..If I am not wrong..

..Sudan

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.comwrote:



 First song promo from JHS

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GWj1_3b-7Y


 Each and every word is dedicated to CWG song bashers..please take it, with
 love..

  



Re: [arr] Cry.. Cry...

2010-09-02 Thread wiredbeats
Good reply for CWG officials. Next line should be crib crib itna crib kartey 
kaiku ..!!! Lol 

what a timing. 



Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread wiredbeats
Common wealth games is a non profit trust registered under Indian trust act. 
and they should by law publish the expenses they incurred. If that#39;s the 
case we would know about the fees charged for the theme song sooner or later. 

I don#39;t think it#39;s that exorbitant. anyways. I checked there is no 
record of financials in the CWG website. 

ideally they should publish the fees paid to rahmans#39;s office as he is 
effectively a vendor providing a services. 

regards 

Vivek 



[arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!

2010-09-02 Thread s03g373 s03g373


Message to A.R.Rahman Sir:

YES ! A.R.RAHMAN SIR, you know very well that WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, WE ARE YOUR 
TRULY FANS. With or without big hits, with or without awards, we are with you 
and have been following you since ROJA. I personnaly felt in Love with you and 
your personality for many reasons; for your music, for the person you are and 
for your ideology especially for your views for India and its people. 

Nobody in the cinema industry is more Indian than you and when people criticize 
you, you should not feel bad or react badly (I know it is not your way of 
behaviour, afterall we are all humans). All these critics are comparable to 
EVIL temptation to break all the Good you have achieve, by ignoring these 
critics and concentrating only on your music and taking into account that so 
many people love you will make you surpass this chaotic situation and then you 
will be compared to a Saint (which you are actually to my mind). 

Not only India, the world has always loved to bring down the stars, to put them 
on the floor and walk on them. Each individual in this world sometimes wants 
destruction of something which is successful. People does not like that the 
Numero 1 is always Numero 1. They will find unreliable reasons to bash the 
Numero 1. This is Jalousy and it is universal.

A.R.Rahman Sir, I know that you are actually not that affected by all this, you 
have seen worst things happening in your life, and these critics are just 
ridiculous (comparing you to Himesh or any other, what crazy people !! Actually 
Himesh should thank you for this).

Fans from all over the world support you !!!

 

Message to ARR Fans:

I am from Paris (France), I suggest that all the fans in the world do something 
to support ARR. Fans in India can group and protests peacefully and calmly on 
the street to support ARR Sir, or they can vote for ARR for the CWG theme,  I 
have many ideas. I think the best way is to open an internet site to support 
ARR and the theme which will allow vote by fans from all over the world. If the 
officials don't like ARR theme, do they have another one to compare it to ? Let 
the people select the theme, that will be more reasonable.

 

Why everybody is silent, common guys do something, you can not count on 
politicians and media, they are generally the same worldwide acting only by 
personal interest, India is THE biggest democracy in the world, people should 
do something 

 

from Serge BELIER
 


To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: moinboss4...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:54:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN









I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE 
WITH YOU ARR!

 -Moin Ali








--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote:

 
 As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth 
 Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative 
 image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they 
 will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the 
 mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just 
 need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would 
 make use of it by 
 disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the 
 ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a 
 fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our 
 group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are 
 getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our 
 support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need 
 to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just 
 replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN.
 
 Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending 
 negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter 
 the negative messages.
 
 Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from 
 Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present 
 situation.







  

[arr] ARR did not force anybody to approve the Theme, Did he ????

2010-09-02 Thread s03g373 s03g373


There is one thing that I don't understand, the officials and the politicians 
have initially approved the song, isn't it??? How come that once the release 
they criticize it ???

ARR didn't force anybody to approve this theme, did he ??? If I have well 
understood, an official commuty were in charge of approving the song??? Now if 
the song is not well received, why is it only ARR fault ???
 


To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: catchg...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 +
Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take






How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the 
same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like 
the gospel truth?


Sent via BlackBerry 



From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com 
Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

  

for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and 
media.

they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme 
music.. but they can't even organize the event properly.

it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while 
both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but 
idiots. 

I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but 
that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol

so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way.  our 
government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do 
in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media 
and politics, we will stay that way forever. 

while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to 
spend for a song and performance.  they should probably have focused more on 
how to manage the event and bad press.   i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve 
it.  but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will 
think that it was a rip off.  

we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still 
an issue. 

Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that 
is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why 
everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. 

I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not 
the forum for that. so,  this here is my last post about CWG song.   and hoping 
that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves.






On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com 
wrote:


  









if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the 
mindset.

I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a 
Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas 
would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, 
when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become 
very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's 
about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? 
Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! 

When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about 
comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge 
hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. 
If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't 
have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No 
ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were 
disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it 
became a huge hit! 

In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting 
a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There 
is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging 
that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just concentrate on hosting a 
good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to 
appreciate them as well.



--- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM



  





Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is 
spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound 
same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. 


I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from 
Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread AJ
Great post, Diya and well said!  I agree!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, diya ganguly_d...@... wrote:

 I too very strongly feel it's not upto his sky high standards. When it's AR 
 Rahman,there is just no way to avoid unrealistic expectations. His repertoire 
 has been consistently unrealistic to say the least! I don't think people 
 expected a song similar to waka waka, but equally catchy and engaging 
 (actually much more). It's a legitimate and natural expectation to have.
 
 I feel his creative freedom was constrained in case of this song by a long 
 list of demands and specs for the song. They should have simply let him 
 compose it his way and not try to put their own minds to it. He's not a 
 machine! Nor is a song built to a list of specs!
 
 All said and done, it really is ok to fail to meet expectations once in the 
 blue moon. It does not take away anything from his greatness. I see no need 
 to make an issue about it.
 
 To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any 
 project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any 
 form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter 
 how big or important they are!
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ 
 wrote:
 
  if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the 
  mindset.
  
  I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or 
  a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these 
  ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself 
  and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that 
  everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer 
  about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! 
  Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then 
  we can do better! 
  
  When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks 
  about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka 
  is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better 
  than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do 
  it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to 
  every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then 
  turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just 
  enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! 
  
  In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. 
  Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great 
  privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and 
  go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just 
  concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty 
  sure people will start to appreciate them as well.
  
  
  --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbeats@ wrote:
  
  From: wiredbeats wiredbeats@
  Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
  To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  

  
  
  


Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR 
  Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all 
  his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. 
  I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from 
  Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each 
  word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even 
  imaging to compose music like this!
  to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they 
  were just dump struck and chewed their own words..
  ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in 
  Black and White
   days..killer track!!)
  So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing 
  can change the mindset.
  Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, 
  incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme 
  song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman 
  would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people 
  would have said the same.
  We are dealing with politicians here...remember!
  So chill.
  regards
  Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org 
   Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http://www.wiredbeats.com  
 





Re: [arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?

2010-09-02 Thread AJ
I understood you, Rajib.  You have good intentions.  My reference to those who 
throw barbs at me wasn't at youonly a few other members who I won't name.  
I just wanted to make sure that you weren't having any hard feelings towards 
me, that's all.  No need to clarify as I have not misunderstood.

Thanks!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote:

 No offense meant to anyone !! I dont like watch comedy or romantic movies ,
 they sound too boring to me ! It doesnt actually mean therez anything wrong
 in it !! it just they  are not off my taste ! I know u write BIG reviews , i
 have read them so many times ,but i tend to skip them whenever possible !!
 May be because there are so many unknown words used ,many times i had look
 for a dictionary :P ( There are so many unknown words here ,even in this
 mail :P ) Anyway .. I dont mean anything else by this !! There are so many
 types of fans here ,most of them do diff kind of things.some1 finds rare
 stuffs , someone posts official news/infos...and so on ... So u r one of
 them and i have no prob whatsoever with u !! I dont know why u r taking this
 in a wrong way ! All is well :-) I just enjoy the information , downloads
 ,pics ,videos ,interviews ,experiences part !! And may be some more insights
 on music also !! If i love something ,i would just say I just love it ..I
 wouldnt go analyzing it ..it sounds bit complex to me,specially when it
 comes to ARR's music...The most lovable thing i have found as off now !! May
 be I am just way too frank that's why !!
 
 When someone posts an praise mail,some like it ,and some obviously dont like
 it ! then the fight of words begins !! I dont like this kinda situation here
 !! It wasnt here 2 years ago...but it is now .. !! So may be i am so much
 disturbed  by all this that i had to request for put a hold on those praise
 mails !! Please i meant no offense to anyone !! Please forgive me if i've
 hurt anyone else !! It wasnt what i wanted !
 
 For a start  Try reading this one  Matthew Islam A.R.Rahman Interview
 CBSO.dochttp://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YD1_TObPEac-FVMz-M63y76OD66JVRIoUe8zcLoAqiykQB5EaAcJ2BuDSCHS8We8_ojhi2VeNkz1f3ng2E1DR9fY6_nWcLg/Matthew%20Islam%20A.R.Rahman%20Interview%20CBSO.doc
 
 
 I think i can read this hundreds of times without getting bored of it ! may
 b i am bit biased towards my countrymen here :P
 
 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:57 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
  Rajib,
 
  I appreciate your request for experiences and rare stuff.  That should
  certainly be more a part of our group's discussions.
 
  However, this is a FAN group.  As fans, we praise and appreciate ARR.  A
  lot of us are emotional about ARR and his music and hence express our
  emotions here too positively in praise of him.  I don't see anything wrong
  in that.  If you don't appreciate that part of our group, that's fine, but
  please don't expect others to suddenly rake in praises for ARR when a lot of
  us do feel emotional about him and his music.  It only comes naturally to a
  lot of us.
 
  Now, I don't approve of being a fanboy and throwing praises to each and
  every ARR song or release.  I also appreciate constructive criticism and I
  have been critical of ARR's music in the past.
 
  I agree with the overall theme of your post that either extreme is not
  goodtoo much praise and too much negativity.
 
  Some here have alluded and insinuated that I only write about ARR in a
  positive way or write large reviews just to attract attention from ARR and
  create hype.  That is utterly and completely false.  Those who know me
  personally know that I am sincere about my write ups about ARR and his music
  and that I just don't hype things up just to attract praise or ARR's
  attention. For me, it's a form of self expression, almost like another
  artthe art of appreciating ARR and his music. I repeat, I do NOT
  consider myself a fanboy and I do NOT create writeups just for hype and
  praise.  I have much better things to do in my life like being a father to
  my 2 small chlidren, working a professional job, being a good husband and
  son, and being a good citizen in general.  I'm a lot more secure about
  myself than some of you think I am.
 
  So, those of you in this group who like to throw barbs at me every now and
  then, please stop as your accusations and insinuations have no bearing or
  ground whatsoever except your crooked thinking.  You don't know me
  personally.
 
  Rajib, I hope you were not alluding to me your post and I hope you were not
  trying to throw a barb my way.
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ wrote:
  
   If i can talk about myself here , I find it a waste of time to even
  praise
   ARR.Everyone can praise him in hundreds of different ways , using
  thousands
   of different words.Therez no end  to it !! and there should not be
  any,but
   all those praising mails doesn't amuse me much !! Share experiences
   instead,they r

Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take

2010-09-02 Thread Roshan
To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any
project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any
form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter
how big or important they are!

very true and I agree to that.


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:18 AM, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 I too very strongly feel it's not upto his sky high standards. When it's AR
 Rahman,there is just no way to avoid unrealistic expectations. His
 repertoire has been consistently unrealistic to say the least! I don't
 think people expected a song similar to waka waka, but equally catchy and
 engaging (actually much more). It's a legitimate and natural expectation to
 have.

 I feel his creative freedom was constrained in case of this song by a long
 list of demands and specs for the song. They should have simply let him
 compose it his way and not try to put their own minds to it. He's not a
 machine! Nor is a song built to a list of specs!

 All said and done, it really is ok to fail to meet expectations once in the
 blue moon. It does not take away anything from his greatness. I see no need
 to make an issue about it.

 To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of
 any project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any
 form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter
 how big or important they are!

 Cheers!

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote:
 
  if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the
 mindset.

 
  I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka
 or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these
 ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and
 not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything
 has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting
 CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's
 Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do
 better!
 
  When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks
 about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is
 a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than
 Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it,
 because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every
 Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn
 around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed
 the song for what it is and it became a huge hit!
 
  In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie.
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and
 go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.
 
 
  --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@... wrote:
 
  From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@...

  Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
  To: rahman fans 
  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is
 spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs
 sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation.Â

  I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from
 Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each
 word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even
 imaging to compose music like this!
  to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. ..
 they were just dump struck and chewed their own words..
  ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in
 Black and White
  days..killer track!!)
  So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion,
 nothing can change the mindset.
  Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams,
 incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song
 can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would
 have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would
 have said the same.

  We are dealing with politicians here...remember!
  So chill.
  regards
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Re: [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You

2010-09-02 Thread Ravi Alagappan
Nice writeup .ARR the best.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:38 AM, RAM KUMAR maharam_c...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 Yes ARR sir, we are with you. These seem to be some sort of bad times for
 you. With the grace of God, I am sure you will come out stronger and I pray
 to God to be with you all the times.

 Once again, WE ARE WITH YOU. OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.


 --
 *From:* raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com
 *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thu, 2 September, 2010 7:15:20 AM
 *Subject:* [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You



 I am with AR as well. Please convey to AR that his fans are with him.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 nandatronics nandatron...@... wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  I wish and I desperately want to meet ARR and say to him that we all fans
 are with him. I request Gopal/ Vijay or some one close to ARR to convey that
 we are liking his CWG anthem and we are with him. I myself not able to
 resist from the kind of comments and thrashing the media and politicians are
 doing for the CWG and I don't know how ARR is feeling about all these.
  I also felt that ARR should never accept any requests especially if
 politicians are involved but what else he could have done, even if he had
 refused to compose the song earlier, all these politicians/ media and other
 music composers wud have commented that after after Oscars ARR has got some
 head weight and hence refused to compose for CWG and they wud have made it
 the headlines everywhere. As our media and politicians are know for the
 blame game.
 
  Even God cannot satisfy all humans So I request ARR not to get affected
 due to these negative comments and allow his creative mind peace to be
 disturbed.
 
  ARR We All Love You, We Know Your Worth, Quality, Originality, Hard Work
 and We Love your CWG theme as well. Good Job Keep Going.
 


  



Re: [arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!

2010-09-02 Thread kishore parayath
Iam NOT serge Belier

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:25 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote:




 *Message to A.R.Rahman Sir:*
 YES ! A.R.RAHMAN SIR, you know very well that WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, WE ARE
 YOUR TRULY FANS. With or without big hits, with or without awards, we are
 with you and have been following you since ROJA. I personnaly felt in Love
 with you and your personality for many reasons; for your music, for the
 person you are and for your ideology especially for your views for India and
 its people.
 Nobody in the cinema industry is more Indian than you and when people
 criticize you, you should not feel bad or react badly (I know it is not
 your way of behaviour, afterall we are all humans). All these critics are
 comparable to EVIL temptation to break all the Good you have achieve, by
 ignoring these critics and concentrating only on your music and taking into
 account that so many people love you will make you surpass this chaotic
 situation and then you will be compared to a Saint (which you are actually
 to my mind).
 Not only India, the world has always loved to bring down the stars, to put
 them on the floor and walk on them. Each individual in this world sometimes
 wants destruction of something which is successful. People does not like
 that the Numero 1 is always Numero 1. They will find unreliable reasons to
 bash the Numero 1. This is Jalousy and it is universal.
 A.R.Rahman Sir, I know that you are actually not that affected by all this,
 you have seen worst things happening in your life, and these critics are
 just ridiculous (comparing you to Himesh or any other, what crazy people
 !! Actually Himesh should thank you for this).
 Fans from all over the world support you !!!

 *Message to ARR Fans:*
 I am from Paris (France), I suggest that all the fans in the world do
 something to support ARR. Fans in India can group and protests peacefully
 and calmly on the street to support ARR Sir, or they can vote for ARR for
 the CWG theme,  I have many ideas. I think the best way is to open an
 internet site to support ARR and the theme which will allow vote by fans
 from all over the world. If the officials don't like ARR theme, do they have
 another one to compare it to ? Let the people select the theme, that will be
 more reasonable.

 Why everybody is silent, common guys do something, you can not count on
 politicians and media, they are generally the same worldwide acting only by
 personal interest, India is THE biggest democracy in the world, people
 should do something

 from Serge BELIER

 --
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 From: moinboss4...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:54:11 -0700
 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN



 I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE
 ARE WITH YOU ARR!

 -Moin Ali



 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@...
 wrote:
 
 
  As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth
 Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative
 image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they
 will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the
 mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just
 need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they
 would make use of it by
  disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the
 ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a
 fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our
 group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are
 getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our
 support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need
 to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just
 replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN.
 
  Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending
 negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter
 the negative messages.
 
  Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from
 Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present
 situation.
 





  



[arr] Video: Harris praising AR in Isai aruvi awards 2010

2010-09-02 Thread Sriram S
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWfqvX6OOs



Re: [arr] Cry.. Cry...

2010-09-02 Thread Roshan
lol..  it was as if telling the media not to whine!



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 Good reply for CWG officials. Next line should be crib crib itna crib
 kartey kaiku ..!!! Lol

 what a timing.

  --
 * From: * Ram R ramkumar.ramachand...@gmail.com;
 * To: * arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com;
 * Subject: * [arr] Cry.. Cry...
 * Sent: * Thu, Sep 2, 2010 4:16:55 AM




 http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326commentshttp://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#%21/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments

 Simple but catchy song!

 Jhoota hi sahi !


 --
 Regards,
 Ram


  




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Re: [arr] ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''

2010-09-02 Thread Roshan
there are some sensible comments here. and I was most surprised about Anu
Malik's comment. he sounds so mature and sensible here unlike what i used to
read in the 90s.

well, at least there is a bunch of people who understand all these

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote:



  ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''
 ibnlive.com http://ibnlive.in.com/agency/ibnlive.com.html
 Posted on *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:00* | Updated *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:56*

   [image: 
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  1

 The industry is abuzz with the recent news that the *Commonwealth 
 Games*http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html
 ** officials now want A R Rahman's Rs 5 crore theme track *Swagatham* to
 be 'recomposed'. Fellow musicians talk to IBNLive about their reactions to
 the rumours...

  Singer Shaan feels that Rahman as a composer has his own beliefs about his
 compositions. Shaan says, “Rahman generally takes a brief and takes it ahead
 from there. What I would like to say is that the CWG officials should work
 on their own shortcomings and pull their act together.” He adds, “We are so
 scared of getting humiliated in front of the whole world with the CWG. Don’t
 waste time finding faults in Rahman.”

  Kavita 
 *Krishnamurthy*http://connect.in.com/krishnamurthy/profile-1900597.html
 ** has been busy traveling and admits she hasn’t had the time to hear
 Rahman’s composition. However, she points out, “For any composer, for
 example if my husband has been commissioned to compose a song...from the
 beginning to the end, the organizers are always involved. While the entire
 song is taking shape, they (organizers) are involved. If there are certain
 changes to be made, the composer should have been alerted from step one.”
 She adds emphatically, “It is bad for the reputation of any musician. It is
 very hurting.”

  [image: A R Rahman at an event]

  Music director *Anu 
 Malik*http://connect.in.com/anu-malik/profile-24443.html
 ** has not heard *Swagatham* either. He, however, explains, “I have not
 heard the song but the broader thing is…Rahman is a gifted composer. It all
 depends on what brief had been given to him. For the kind of money that has
 been paid (reportedly 5 crore), it is a huge amount. I am sure if Rahman has
 composed the theme track, it must be very good. But if something takes about
 four, five or six months, was the brief given in the first place OK? The net
 reaction to the track has not been that good. At the end of the day, Indians
 are very emotional towards their music.”

  Music director Bappi Lahiri admits he has not heard the song. He says, “I
 have not heard the song yet and therefore would not like to comment on the
 matter.”

  By Sujata Chakrabarti



 http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html
 --
 *- Regards

 ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*

  




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Re: [arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!

2010-09-02 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||
Lol.. good one KP! 

 
 The search is more important than the destination 
- a r rahman -





From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 2 September, 2010 6:36:32 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!

  
Iam NOT serge Belier


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:25 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote:

  

Message to A.R.Rahman Sir:
YES ! A.R.RAHMAN SIR, you know very well that WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, WE ARE YOUR 
TRULY FANS. With or without big hits, with or without awards, we are with you 
and have been following you since ROJA. I personnaly felt in Love with you and 
your personality for many reasons; for your music, for the person you are and 
for your ideology especially for your views for India and its people. 

Nobody in the cinema industry is more Indian than you and when people 
criticize you, you should not feel bad or react badly (I know it is not your 
way 
of behaviour, afterall we are all humans). All these critics are comparable to 
EVIL temptation to break all the Good you have achieve, by ignoring these 
critics and concentrating only on your music and taking into account that so 
many people love you will make you surpass this chaotic situation and then you 
will be compared to a Saint (which you are actually to my mind). 

Not only India, the world has always loved to bring down the stars, to put 
them 
on the floor and walk on them. Each individual in this world sometimes 
wants destruction of something which is successful. People does not like that 
the Numero 1 is always Numero 1. They will find unreliable reasons to bash the 
Numero 1. This is Jalousy and it is universal.
A.R.Rahman Sir, I know that you are actually not that affected by all this, 
you 
have seen worst things happening in your life, and these critics are just 
ridiculous (comparing you to Himesh or any other, what crazy people !! 
Actually 
Himesh should thank you for this).
Fans from all over the world support you !!!
 
Message to ARR Fans:
I am from Paris (France), I suggest that all the fans in the world do 
something 
to support ARR. Fans in India can group and protests peacefully and calmly on 
the street to support ARR Sir, or they can vote for ARR for the CWG theme,  I 
have many ideas. I think the best way is to open an internet site to support 
ARR 
and the theme which will allow vote by fans from all over the world. If the 
officials don't like ARR theme, do they have another one to compare it to ? 
Let 
the people select the theme, that will be more reasonable.
 
Why everybody is silent, common guys do something, you can not count on 
politicians and media, they are generally the same worldwide acting only by 
personal interest, India is THE biggest democracy in the world, people should 
do 
something 
 
from Serge BELIER
 


 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: moinboss4...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:54:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN




I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE 
WITH YOU ARR!

 -Moin Ali 




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote:

 
 As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth 
Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative 
image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they 
will 
for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai 
blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need 
some 
news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use 
of 
it by 

 disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the 
 ACTUAL 
WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are 
responsible for all these..the media is watching our 
group/forum..which 
is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to 
stop 
all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this 
time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are 
truly 
A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE 
ARE 
WITH YOU...RAHMAN.
 
 Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending 
negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter 
the 
negative messages.
 
 Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from 
Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present 
situation.








 



Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job

2010-09-02 Thread Farzad Khaleel
1 Lakh 7 hearings in the first 5 days of uploading. Let we
need another proof ?

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Surya Chivukula suryachivuk...@ymail.comwrote:




 your are right dude let promote the song through social networking too
 --- On *Wed, 1/9/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote:


 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 11:43 PM



   Play the CWG track all the freakin time, promote it, play it in your
 car, house, office, if you are a DJ..play it loud in your club. Just play it
 all the freakin time in front of other people...let them all get a chance to
 grow into the track.

 Time for Fans to do the job. Remember, this rarely happens with AR.Infact
 never.


 ---

 My charity at Cradleindia.org http://www.cradleindia.org/ and music 
 atwiredbeats.com http://www.wiredbeats.com/



  




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Re: [arr] ARR did not force anybody to approve the Theme, Did he ????

2010-09-02 Thread kishore parayath
Juz curious...
Which part of India u belong to sir?
Or is it that u have no relation with India ...u r a french national?

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:34 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote:




 There is one thing that I don't understand, the officials and the
 politicians have initially approved the song, isn't it??? How come that once
 the release they criticize it ???
 ARR didn't force anybody to approve this theme, did he ??? If I have well
 understood, an official commuty were in charge of approving the song??? Now
 if the song is not well received, why is it only ARR fault ???

 --
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 From: catchg...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 +
 Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take



 How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in
 the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it
 like the gospel truth?

 Sent via BlackBerry
 --
 *From: *Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com
 *Sender: *arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com
 *Date: *Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530
 *To: *arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 *ReplyTo: *arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take


 for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics
 and media.

 they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme
 music.. but they can't even organize the event properly.

 it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while
 both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but
 idiots.

 I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media..
 but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface
 movie. lol

 so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way.  our
 government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always
 do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in
 media and politics, we will stay that way forever.

 while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much
 to spend for a song and performance.  they should probably have focused more
 on how to manage the event and bad press.   i didn't mean that AR didn't
 deserve it.  but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common
 men will think that it was a rip off.

 we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is
 still an issue.

 Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously
 that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the
 reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka.

 I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is
 not the forum for that. so,  this here is my last post about CWG song.   and
 hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly
 deserves.





 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan 
 gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote:




   if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the
 mindset.

 I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or
 a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these
 ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and
 not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything
 has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting
 CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why
 Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we
 can do better!

 When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks
 about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is
 a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than
 Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it,
 because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every
 Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn
 around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed
 the song for what it is and it became a huge hit!

 In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie.
 Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great
 privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and
 go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if  we just
 concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty
 sure people will start to appreciate them as well.



 --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote:


 From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
 To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM




  Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman

[arr] Remanika Sarees - Awesome jingle by AR in Malayalam (pre-Roja days)

2010-09-02 Thread Sriram S
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmX8m-M6WY



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