Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
Rightly. Remember a saying if you fight with a pig in mud, you will soon find that you are tired and filthy whereas pig is enjoying. Media is so illogical in this particular issue that better sense is going to prevail among the readers and they will be able to see it as an orchestrated campaign to hurt ARR. We can post our views on blogs, to other mailing lists, newsgroups, forums. Rawat On 9/3/2010 6:31 PM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote: Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com mailto:purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds?
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
pI am sure he will be fasting these days. Let god give him more courage and confidence in this holy ramzan time.AR. .we all are with you and our prayers also./p
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
You spoke for me as well... On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:50 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on. -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
i left a comment... i don't think they'd moderate that. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.comwrote: Seriously, there were some very good editors out there with respect...Everything in the media is now changed...I don't know where are we heading towards?? So, what do they think are the strengths of our nation?? Don't know what will be the fate, If they keep doing this to every icon in this country...Sigh!! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Well said, Gops. Politicians are never taken seriously but whatever repute of evenhandedness media had has got evaporated by such ugly orchestrated campaign. The questions to media are, as you wrote, “Why are people so bitter over a song,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” And this particular article will serve an undisputable proof of the ugliness of this campaign against ARR. Thanks. -- Rawat On 9/3/2010 5:30 PM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had
Re: [arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....
This is writing ! Very heart felt and nice.
Re: [arr] ARR - his name means a lot and keeps me going and inspired!!!
great one, Yeshrao.. loved reading it. I have always felt that his music had the power of creating positive energy whenever listening to it. I don't believe in god or religion. but his music is what makes me connect to the spirituality which for me is feeling smaller, being thankful.. showing gratitude and doing something good. he has shown me that with his music and life. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:47 PM, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com wrote: Today I sat down to think what AR Rahman means to me and ... AR Rahman - the name does not just stands for world class music - which is a well known fact! For me, ARR is also about peace, humility, perseverance, respect, inspiration, divinity, politeness, patriotism, wisdom, teamwork, creative genius, spiritual, caring, one who respects mother, one who pushes his ability every time to redefine something no one else has achieved and so many other noble qualities. I am deeply saddened by the fact that media does not know the real worth of such a lovely Indian and is too quick to forget the pride he has brought to our country! ARR should come out of this and redeem his lost pride and answer his critics with his music! I thought this episode must have created pain within ARR and upset him a lot...But then I realized his words of wisdom All fame is God's and God given; He does not own anything in this world including fame, money etc... Therefore if fame or money were to go away from him suddenly, he stands to lose nothing and its again God's wish. He is such a great person and proved himself so much that his fame can never be diminished, despite petty events like this one... Something in me says that this will be a new phase in ARR's career and he is going to create several Roja's and Dil Se's all again (though they woul be musically quite different). Something in me says that ARR is going to create path-breaking scores never before attempted. Something in me says the whole world is going to celebrate our man like never before. This expectation and my belief that it will be met 100% by ARR is what keeps me going crazily after him. I wish and would like him to be regarded as the best globally...which is quite within reach given his talents! I am waiting for that day..the day when FIFA asks Rahman to score the anthem or when Spielberg asks Rahman to score for his film or when Rahman releases his own album globally and stumps everyone -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
i feel the same way and hope ARR is numb to this. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
[arr] [non-arr] Flames from Crash OST by Mark Isham
One of my favorite pieces of music... was just listening felt like sharing... truly beautiful stuff... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfK8PLn024 The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman -
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
Good point, Gopal! Thanks for the reassurance. I was hoping ARR would handle this as he handles everything elsematurity, healthy detachment, calm mind. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this will not either On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@... wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
[arr] ARR Fans Stand United
This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which has raised some heat around here. Whether we agree or disagree, like a song or album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with one another, one thing is for certain: We all love ARR and that's why we're here. ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers and admirers too.
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
awesome!! I am no more worried now.. Let media do whatever they are doing (we cant do much to stop them anyways), they are just making fun of themselves by publishing rubbish stuff. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this will not either On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@... wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
That's what I thought... I think what he posted on FB today, pretty much reflects how he's feeling! Gr8 to know that he is untouched by all this sham! The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 4 September, 2010 12:47:40 AM Subject: Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling? Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this will not either On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
[arr] Re: Abbas Tyrewala tweets on JHS and CWG song
I'm getting pretty excited Wish Sunhidi's song was there! ARR and Sunhidi are a rare combo! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@... wrote: http://twitter.com/AbbasTyrewala Q: @isuryamitra http://twitter.com/isuryamitra sir,i heard sonu is singing for jhs..is it true... AT - yes. one that I think will be one of the most gorgeous songs this year. Q: @rabdulzali http://twitter.com/rabdulzali rahmans CWG anthem is superflop,any insecirities for JHS nw??? AT - :) no. and never write off an AR song in a couple of days. Q: @QaisarImtiaz http://twitter.com/QaisarImtiaz Has @sunidhichauhan5http://twitter.com/sunidhichauhan5Sung In JHS ? AT - she had. and brilliantly. but the situation changed and that song went out of the film. -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
[arr] AR Rahman spellbound with Komaram Puli:Allu Aravind
can someone translate please? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetOWdTEEhQfeature=player_embedded
Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?
No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions the total contract value with ARR. http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676 There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do not know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his charity work would you think that he would overcharge for something like this? The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to publish whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of the criticism about the Games has now been focused solely on the music. A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with releasing the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time it seemed that the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and not because of TRP ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after masala stuff to sell. The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article doesn't even have an author mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who blogs or tweets, gets quoted in articles as if they're music buffs with expert opinions. Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles. The media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it. And for the devious side in you... When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive that the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available in India and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending that thought here are some tweet-lines: * IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in Sanskrit dubbing. * V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song either- Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used Shakira. * V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that Kerala is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead. * TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana Gana Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing the national anthem. * Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain wants Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since it is too slow. There is not enough Shakira in it. * Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated since the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India. From: ravi ravis...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM Subject: [arr] Should the RTI be approached? Its now like every cat dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the RTI be approached to know the real facts? Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News.
[arr] Re: ARR Fans Stand United
Always will STAND UP for Him bro ... Rahul --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which has raised some heat around here. Whether we agree or disagree, like a song or album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with one another, one thing is for certain: We all love ARR and that's why we're here. ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers and admirers too.
Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?
lol man! your list is so hilarious. i am so going to use it on the twitter.. let's all start tweeting this. what's your twitter id btw, just so i can tag you. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ramesh R triscod...@yahoo.com wrote: No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions the total contract value with ARR. http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676 There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do not know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his charity work would you think that he would overcharge for something like this? The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to publish whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of the criticism about the Games has now been focused solely on the music. A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with releasing the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time it seemed that the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and not because of TRP ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after masala stuff to sell. The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article doesn't even have an author mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who blogs or tweets, gets quoted in articles as if they're music buffs with expert opinions. Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles. The media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it. And for the devious side in you... When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive that the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available in India and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending that thought here are some tweet-lines: - IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in Sanskrit dubbing. - V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song either- Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used Shakira. - V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that Kerala is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead. - TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana Gana Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing the national anthem. - Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain wants Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since it is too slow. There is not enough Shakira in it. - Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated since the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India. -- *From:* ravi ravis...@gmail.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM *Subject:* [arr] Should the RTI be approached? Its now like every cat dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the RTI be approached to know the real facts? Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?
Feel free to use/modify them as you please. I don't have a blog, twitter or facebook. Just not my kind of thing. From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 4:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached? lol man! your list is so hilarious. i am so going to use it on the twitter.. let's all start tweeting this. what's your twitter id btw, just so i can tag you. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ramesh R triscod...@yahoo.com wrote: No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions the total contract value with ARR. http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676 There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do not know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his charity work would you think that he would overcharge for something like this? The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to publish whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of the criticism about the Games has now been focused solely on the music. A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with releasing the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time it seemed that the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and not because of TRP ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after masala stuff to sell. The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article doesn't even have an author mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who blogs or tweets, gets quoted in articles as if they're music buffs with expert opinions. Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles. The media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it. And for the devious side in you... When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive that the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available in India and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending that thought here are some tweet-lines: * IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in Sanskrit dubbing. * V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song either- Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used Shakira. * V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that Kerala is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead. * TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana Gana Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing the national anthem. * Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain wants Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since it is too slow. There is not enough Shakira in it. * Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated since the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India. From: ravi ravis...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM Subject: [arr] Should the RTI be approached? Its now like every cat dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the RTI be approached to know the real facts? Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
Trust me, the first thought came to my mind was this. How ARR will take this? After a while i realized that all these won't bother ARR. He has seen it all in the past 18 years. All i want is, ARR should come out with many more mind blowing compositions and shut all those nonsense people who have no better work than to criticize the hard work of any person. We Are Always with you AR Rahman Satheesh Murthy. From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 12:17:40 PM Subject: Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling? Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this will not either On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
Re: [arr] How is ARR feeling?
Rehman sir's music helped me overcome so many dreadful moments in my life, that i feel indebted to him. Just like all your loyal fans, I'm also with you. I feel going up to him and giving him a hug. I don't know how he's feeling right now, after all these fiasco, but I'm very depressed. It's like a nightmare to me. It's not because of many people didn't like the song, but for the allegations that have been raised. They are questioning his dedication. In the last 10-15 years the most popular and surreal patriotic songs are all his compositions. How can the media be so ignorant. How ca they so easily forget what he has done for this country. Very sad, very sad. I know i shouldn't be saying this but I think ARR should leave bollywood and start doing Hollywood movies exclusively and concentrate more on his global career. Because it seems everyone is going with the media. I feel like India doesn't deserve you sir. Sorry for being a bit confrontational, but when it comes to ARR I'm very emotional. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: Don't you worry, just as all the praise and adulation does not affect him, this will not either On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 14:50, AJ purev...@... wrote: I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com
Hi friends, Site is now ready. Check it out http://ilovecwganthem.com/ Your feedback is needed to make it better and fulfill our initiative. Please suggest what can we add here more? Can somebody help me make it look better and improve text Source code of site is available at http://github.com/anildigital/ilovecwganthem Yaaro please help :D On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@yahoo.inwrote: SuperWe fans should do somethingPlease take some initiative!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, RAMESH b.j KRISHNAN trichyman2...@... wrote: Wonderful initiative! Please do it ASAP. --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Ravi Alagappan acer...@... wrote: From: Ravi Alagappan acer...@... Subject: Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 11:54 AM  Great ...do that soon On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:08 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote:  Excellent initiative...Please go ahead... From: Anil Wadghule anildigi...@... To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:50:37 PM Subject: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com  Hi Guys, I love CWG theme by ARR. I am thinking to start a dedicated website on it. Can you suggest good domain name for it? Currently I have IloveCWGTheme.com in my mind? Please suggest any other good domain in your mind? -- Ani Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links -- Thanks, Anil
[arr] get ready for JHS
hope this album is a runaway hit.
Re: [arr] ARR Fans Stand United
Agree totally... We love ARR as a human first, then comes the rest. We are proud to be a fan of ARR. Nothing can ever change that. Jai Ho ARR. From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 1:23:52 PM Subject: [arr] ARR Fans Stand United This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which has raised some heat around here. Whether we agree or disagree, like a song or album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with one another, one thing is for certain: We all love ARR and that's why we're here. ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers and admirers too.
Re: [arr] [non-arr] Flames from Crash OST by Mark Isham
great stuff indeed. the movie is my favorite too :) On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:47 AM, || V i s h w e s h || vishws...@yahoo.comwrote: One of my favorite pieces of music... was just listening felt like sharing... truly beautiful stuff... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfK8PLn024 * *The *search* is more important than the destination - a r rahman - -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] ARR’s students leave listeners enthralled
ARR’s students leave listeners enthralled September 3rd, 2010 Sharehttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deccanchronicle.com%2Ftabloids%2Farr%E2%80%99s-students-leave-listeners-enthralled-061t=ARR%E2%80%99s%20students%20leave%20listeners%20enthralled%20%7C%20Deccan%20Chronicle%20%7C%202010-09-03src=sp Buzz up!http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?targetUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deccanchronicle.com%2Ftabloids%2Farr%E2%80%99s-students-leave-listeners-enthralled-061 - [image: Bookmark and Share] http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php - [image: Email this tabloids]http://www.deccanchronicle.com/forward/176061 - [image: Printer friendly version]http://www.deccanchronicle.com/node/176061/print [image: Decrease text size]http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloids/arr%E2%80%99s-students-leave-listeners-enthralled-061[image: Increase text size]http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloids/arr%E2%80%99s-students-leave-listeners-enthralled-061 Tags: ar rahman http://www.deccanchronicle.com/viewmore/7483, instrumental music http://www.deccanchronicle.com/viewmore/116151, KM Music Conservatory http://www.deccanchronicle.com/viewmore/116150 [image: ARR’s students leave listeners enthralled] The air was filled with exquisite music, from Mozart’s symphonies to Beethoven’s entrancing melodies. Students of the KM Music Conservatory, the school started by India’s most famous music composer A.R. Rahman, showed their sublime skills and high musical standards at the KMMC piano recital. Their flair and passion for music was in evidence, as the students, of varying ages, showcased symphonies ranging from W.A. Mozart’s Arioso to special songs arranged by the Mozart of Madras A.R. Rahman himself. Dr Surojeet Chatterji, handpicked by Rahman, trained all these students in a short span of six months. “These students are my babies. They have learnt music in a little over six months. Rahman saab brought me from California to teach these students and it feels great to make a complete circle and come back to India after living so many years overseas.” Among the performers, there were many who stood out. Some of the hot favourites were P. Shridhar, who enthralled the audience by playing ‘Breakers on the Ocean’ and Jerine Joseph who played ‘Prelude’ in D-minor and received much applause. Then there was Prince Mulla, who moved his hands with skill and grace on the ivory keys and brought the piano to life by playing Webber’s Scherzo. Another whizkid was S. Arjun, whose composition dedicated to A.R. Rahman left the audience spellbound. Being visually challenged, he has overcome the world and proved his passion for music. Madam Fathima, A.R. Rahman’s sister, reports, “Every student’s recital was mind-blowing. Dr Chatterji is another diamond in the crown of KMMC. He has tapped every individual’s talent to the fullest extent.” Pritpal Halwarvi, a parent proudly notes, “Dr Chatterji has brought the piano to life. The school provides a great platform for children to showcase their talent. KMMC should have many branches all over the country and every branch should have another Dr Surojeet Chatterji.”Adds Pietra Brettkelly, an expat and a documentarian from New Zealand, “It’s amazing to see the love for music in these students, it’s incredible. I had tears rolling down. When the students stated that they had a connection between their love for nature and music, it proved that their musical abilities were out of sheer interest. Now I am tempted to learn music from Dr. Chatterji!” http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloids/arr’s-students-leave-listeners-enthralled-061 -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] Re: Project ARRDB - Where are we standing?
Sam, Great - that def. looks v comprehensive. Must've been a lot of effort I'm sure. Any chance you can convert the VSD into a standard image format like JPG and send it across? Thanks! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, samsujith_k samsujit...@... wrote: http://www.4shared.com/file/3_BIOAIK/MusicDB.html I work as a Database Developer and I am hobby musician. Combining those two interests I once put some effort into creating a database around ARR's music. My goal was to capture all the information that is usually associated with a typical ARR's album (Track Lists, Singers, Musicians, Engineers involved, Studios involved etc). But besides this, I also wanted something along the lines of Music Genome Project, wherein some musical attributes are identified in each ARR's song/album. And the third goal (though, I assume it would be a bit hard to reach) is to identify the gear used in ARR's songs. This would include the software used, the different kinds of Mics used, Effect Boxes (Equalizers, Compressors etc) used and so forth. The first goal of getting various credits involved is the one that can be easily done. This is usually available in different formats and that could be massaged per the DB design. The second goal of associating some musical attributes can be a bit hard and involves some work from musically knowledgeable people. I did some as sample data and we could proceed along those lines (please look into the attachment). The third goal of getting all the gear used might be the toughest one (and to an extent could be ARR's trademark secrets, so cannot be let known to general public), but if any data/information is be available through ARR's associates or other knowledgeable people, it would add a great deal of knowledge. In the west we see a great deal of information being shared on the gear being used and how. I would love to see that kind of information coming out of our Indian musicians and studios. ARR himself mentions some of the gear/production techniques he uses in his interviews with Music vendors (for example, on Apple website, ARR mentioned he processed drums in Ringa Ringa through Native Instruments Guitar Rig and so on). Anyways, I came up with a scratch design some time back. Attached in this email are the various files regarding this (will explain what each file is shortly). The third goal which I mention above is not yet included in this design. But the other two are in there, atleast in a first draft format. The attachment in the link (http://www.4shared.com/file/3_BIOAIK/MusicDB.html ) has the following: 1. ARRMusic.bak - This is the backup file of the database I built in SQL Server 2000. 2. MusicDB ERD.vsd - This is the ERD (MS Visio format) of the above database. This should give you an idea of what I tried then. 3. Object Script.sql - A Simple script used to create the tables and some sample views 4. Sample Data Entry.sql - A script I used to enter some sample data (most of this data is accurate, some changes might be required here and there). 5. Sample Queries.sql - Some typical queries 6. Export - Sample Data.xls - An export of the sample data entered above in excel format 7. Export - Sample Queries.xls - Some sample data queried based on the data entered. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance in this matter. Or if this design would be of any use (we can change as needed). Regards, Sam
[arr] Article in webdunia
Hi friends, This is the most biased article I have read recently. It says Delhi 6,VTV,Endhrian,KP was having mediocre songs. It would be great if somebody could translate this. Sorry that it is in malayalam and I need to rush to another location and wont be able to translate this at this moment. http://malayalam.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/currentaffairs/1009/03/1100903065_1.htm Regards, Kishore
Re: [arr] Re: ARR - his name means a lot and keeps me going and inspired!!!
Well written ..moving! --- On Fri, 9/3/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: ARR - his name means a lot and keeps me going and inspired!!! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 12:14 PM I love what you wrote and I completely agree!!! Well said!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: Today I sat down to think what AR Rahman means to me and ... AR Rahman - the name does not just stands for world class music - which is a well known fact! For me, ARR is also about peace, humility, perseverance, respect, inspiration, divinity, politeness, patriotism, wisdom, teamwork, creative genius, spiritual, caring, one who respects mother, one who pushes his ability every time to redefine something no one else has achieved and so many other noble qualities. I am deeply saddened by the fact that media does not know the real worth of such a lovely Indian and is too quick to forget the pride he has brought to our country! ARR should come out of this and redeem his lost pride and answer his critics with his music! I thought this episode must have created pain within ARR and upset him a lot...But then I realized his words of wisdom All fame is God's and God given; He does not own anything in this world including fame, money etc... Therefore if fame or money were to go away from him suddenly, he stands to lose nothing and its again God's wish. He is such a great person and proved himself so much that his fame can never be diminished, despite petty events like this one... Something in me says that this will be a new phase in ARR's career and he is going to create several Roja's and Dil Se's all again (though they woul be musically quite different). Something in me says that ARR is going to create path-breaking scores never before attempted. Something in me says the whole world is going to celebrate our man like never before. This expectation and my belief that it will be met 100% by ARR is what keeps me going crazily after him. I wish and would like him to be regarded as the best globally...which is quite within reach given his talents! I am waiting for that day..the day when FIFA asks Rahman to score the anthem or when Spielberg asks Rahman to score for his film or when Rahman releases his own album globally and stumps everyone
[arr] Swagatham guitar bit ringtone [1 Attachment]
I have attached the initial guitar part of the song.Use it as your ringtone.Lets do our bit by using it as our ringtone. Vj
Re: [arr] [non-arr] Flames from Crash OST by Mark Isham
Superb! Has such an Eastern feelvery meditative and spiritual... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: great stuff indeed. the movie is my favorite too :) On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:47 AM, || V i s h w e s h || vishws...@...wrote: One of my favorite pieces of music... was just listening felt like sharing... truly beautiful stuff... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfK8PLn024 * *The *search* is more important than the destination - a r rahman - -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: get ready for JHS
Release date? Tracklisting? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: hope this album is a runaway hit.
[arr] 2 ARR Movies in one day!!!!
Just Revisited 2 great Films by ARR... This time with Concentration on BGM and acting skills of actors.. Was just astonished to see the way the BGMs proceed on.. The 2 films were The Legend of Bhagath Singh and Iruvar. The BGMs exactly matched the situation. That too for Iruvar it was typically set as though it was composed during the older days. For legend of bhagath singh it was so patriotic. The Music of TLBS is almost forgotten by many. The Mahive and jogiya songs are good medium paced melody songs... Cant get better. The song of Desh mere, mera rang de basanti, sarfaroshi ki tamanna(both versions) can make any one understand what INDIA was to the three freedom fighters. Perfectly placed. I am stopping here as i am running out of words Thanks/Best Regards Chella Govindarajan R (a) Uppili R
Re: [arr] ARR Fans Stand United
I love him no matter what.. for his music has been with me in my ups and downs.. it's impossible to leave the music and musician that has been part of your entire life. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Sath Murthy sath.mur...@yahoo.com wrote: Agree totally... We love ARR as a human first, then comes the rest. We are proud to be a fan of ARR. Nothing can ever change that. Jai Ho ARR. -- *From:* AJ purev...@yahoo.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 1:23:52 PM *Subject:* [arr] ARR Fans Stand United This group has seen a lot of disagreements and some bickering of late, which has raised some heat around here. Whether we agree or disagree, like a song or album or not, like ARR of yesterday vs. ARR of today, even annoyed with one another, one thing is for certain: We all love ARR and that's why we're here. ARR Fans Stand United Always! We're not just his fans, but also his followers and admirers too. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Should the RTI be approached?
Ramesh, You crack me up man LMAO! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: lol man! your list is so hilarious. i am so going to use it on the twitter.. let's all start tweeting this. what's your twitter id btw, just so i can tag you. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ramesh R triscod...@... wrote: No need for RTI. There was a GoI press release about this which mentions the total contract value with ARR. http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=64676 There's more work (lyrics by Mehboob, video with Bharat Bala...) than just composing the song. ARR is performing at the opening ceremony as well. We do not know the full extent of his involvement. But c'mon! Given all his charity work would you think that he would overcharge for something like this? The media is on a witch-hunt right now so it's convenient for them to publish whatever they want. Don't fan the flames. It's amazing how much of the criticism about the Games has now been focused solely on the music. A few weeks ago when a journalist angrily questioned the delay with releasing the song, I defended her right to ask the question. At that time it seemed that the press was asking hard questions because it mattered and not because of TRP ratings. Now I see it's a facade since they're all after masala stuff to sell. The IBNLive hack-job masquerading as an article doesn't even have an author mentioned. Every Tom, Dick and Hariharan who blogs or tweets, gets quoted in articles as if they're music buffs with expert opinions. Don't make this an issue despite how ugly it looks. Ignore it. Be civil and diplomatic if you're correcting friends who've been misled by the articles. The media will stop when there isn't enough interest in it. And for the devious side in you... When people have already formed a misguided opinion it's hard to make them change if you point facts directly. Use satire to make them think about how ludicrous it is. We already know about the awesome conclusion by IBNLive that the film score to Fire was a flop because it was not easily available in India and could be obtained only by mail order from Germany. Extending that thought here are some tweet-lines: - IBNLive says Mughal-e-Azam is a flop because it is not available in Sanskrit dubbing. - V.K. Malhotra doesn't like Australia's 2006 Commonwealth Games song either- Their song is slower than Rahman's. They should have used Shakira. - V.K Malhotra also does not like coconut chutney. Rediff reports that Kerala is angry when he asked for mint chutney instead. - TimesOfIndia research shows that Waka Waka is more popular than Jana Gana Mana based on downloads. Please participate in the poll for changing the national anthem. - Calcutta Telegraph breaking news-- Sports minister Shanawaz Hussain wants Rabindranath Tagore grand-daughter to update national anthem since it is too slow. There is not enough Shakira in it. - Indian media secures top prize in transparency and integrity awards U2CanBJournoWorld 2010. Congratulate them! Only one country participated since the others refused to pay the entry fee to host nation, India. -- *From:* ravi ravis...@... *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 12:59:04 PM *Subject:* [arr] Should the RTI be approached? Its now like every cat dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the RTI be approached to know the real facts? Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Re: Sukhwinder joins in now!!!
I really love the sound that snip :) On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:13 AM, kitcha_swamy kitcha_sw...@yahoo.comwrote: Yes, the comedy never stops. I keep saying, these spineless people should be ashamed of talking about Rahamn. Where was sukhwinder before chaya chaya?. Now he is saying that he would like to sit down and talk with Rahman as though there is something wrong with AR. Damn snipwinder, Just do your job. AR needs no free advice. He is happy and the BEST at what he is doing. You guys don't do the bad apple act. AR Sir, for heavens sake, please stop working with these unprofessional people. Please, you don't deserve any of this NON-SENSE. I'm seriously shedding tears for what is happening around to our BOSS. I was not able to control my tears when I saw our BOSS winning OSCARS for India and now I'm doing it again, when I realize the amount of recognition that AR achieved for India has been forgotten. SHAME on the MEDIA !!! Jai Ho !!! Swamy (aka kitcha) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@... wrote: well, another comedian to entertain us!...ROFL!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, s_girish2003 s_girish2003@ wrote: Another one takes adv of this situation... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: CWG SONG song is really good
yeah...and you know what...I was hearing this song while driving the car. When the first Rock guitar part came and when ARR sang the first Lets Go!! line, automatically I stepped on the throttleNow doesn't that prove that the song is thumping enough?...To hell with the critics:-x --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sreekar8191986 sreekar8191...@... wrote: i have been following all these digests from our group and heard so much abt this song. today i thought i shud listen to this song first...i heard it...Its fantastic song... i was like 'what the hell is wrong with peoples ears? may be poeple expected a very fast paced number like maro maro or soemthing. as a music fan, i dont care what is the purpose of song.. i got one more great number to listen...and am also very happy to find out that rahman is still the rahman i admire..his magic didnt fade...may be he his song coudnt impress a set of people or didnt serve the purpose it was intended for... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, RaijenB raijen03@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oiFX6KjCf0 who ever talked with logic and reality about this problem i really appreciate u guys!! thanks srinivas for backing ARR.. please leave ARR !!! thats the Fact!! adei rasana kettavanukale thayavau seithu rahmana summa vidungadaa pleaseda ... summa irungaiyaa!!
[arr] Tweet from @V1SH4L
I really like Rahman's new track from Jhootha Hi Sahi. It's vintage Rahman, and I've always been a fan.:) @shreyaghoshal, as always, ROCKS!! Sent via BlackBerry
[arr] Re: Tweet from @V1SH4L
Vishal who? Bharadwaj or Vishal-Shekar? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I really like Rahman's new track from Jhootha Hi Sahi. It's vintage Rahman, and I've always been a fan.:) @shreyaghoshal, as always, ROCKS!! Sent via BlackBerry
[arr] Loving Rhyme School for Kids!!!!
Got a hold of Rhyme School thanks to a kind soul from here! I love it, and more importantly, my kids love it!!! THey sing along to the songs and ARR and his students have created some really nice musical arrangements that add so much to the basic melodies of each rhyme. You can definitely hear ARR's touch in the rhyme school songs. I have so many rhyme and kid CDs, but my kids only want to listen to this one!! Thank you ARR and KM and Katrina You are helping to make my kids happy!!!
Re: [arr] Re: Tweet from @V1SH4L
https://twitter.com/V1SH4L vishal dadlani of Vishal - Shekar. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:37 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Vishal who? Bharadwaj or Vishal-Shekar? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I really like Rahman's new track from Jhootha Hi Sahi. It's vintage Rahman, and I've always been a fan.:) @shreyaghoshal, as always, ROCKS!! Sent via BlackBerry -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print
Please meet up with Vithur or Faiz near AM studios and get your tshirt from them. Its also a good idea to gift these t shirts to people close to you so the more you take, the better will be your contribution to a good cause. Special thanks to Vithur for selflessly committing himself to this project. On 9/2/10, Chella rcgr...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I need the T-Shirt... Tell me the details... Cost... How to get it from u.. I am from Chennai Only --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur -- Thanks Vijay +91 93234 49747 www.arrahman.com www.facebook.com/arrahman www.twitter.com/arrahman
Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
[arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...
yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep after that
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. *( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!)* So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would have said the same. We are dealing with politicians here...remember! So chill. regards Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org http://www.cradleindia.org Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http
[arr] My heart is burning...
Looking at the TV, Net and other channels, the way some ppl are commenting about ARR, my heart is burning. Now we know who are real follweres of ARR. Aadesh Srivastav says in headlines today, that y ARR was chosen instead of Pandit Ravishankar or Zakir hussain. Loius banks is critisicing ARR.. ARR is just having having an off day like Sachin in the cricket field. He will be back with a bang with Jootha hi sahi !
Re: [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You
Yes ARR sir, we are with you. These seem to be some sort of bad times for you. With the grace of God, I am sure you will come out stronger and I pray to God to be with you all the times. Once again, WE ARE WITH YOU. OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU. From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 2 September, 2010 7:15:20 AM Subject: [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You I am with AR as well. Please convey to AR that his fans are with him. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nandatronics nandatron...@... wrote: Hi All, I wish and I desperately want to meet ARR and say to him that we all fans are with him. I request Gopal/ Vijay or some one close to ARR to convey that we are liking his CWG anthem and we are with him. I myself not able to resist from the kind of comments and thrashing the media and politicians are doing for the CWG and I don't know how ARR is feeling about all these. I also felt that ARR should never accept any requests especially if politicians are involved but what else he could have done, even if he had refused to compose the song earlier, all these politicians/ media and other music composers wud have commented that after after Oscars ARR has got some head weight and hence refused to compose for CWG and they wud have made it the headlines everywhere. As our media and politicians are know for the blame game. Even God cannot satisfy all humans So I request ARR not to get affected due to these negative comments and allow his creative mind peace to be disturbed. ARR We All Love You, We Know Your Worth, Quality, Originality, Hard Work and We Love your CWG theme as well. Good Job Keep Going.
Re: [arr] CWG anthem of the GOD
I don't think he's referring to AR. See the sentence, he says 'all creatures' and not 'all creations'. Thanks, - On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: and, who is that GOD you are referring to ? AR Rahman ? last time I checked, he is a living human being. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:50 PM, stharirahman stharirah...@yahoo.co.inwrote: All creatures of GOD are wonderful. There is an proverb in tamilnadu 'Donkey does not know camphor's smell' but we know our god's gifts - the every songs are always great. his efforts to complete a composition are wellknown. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Jhoota hi sahi one Song ( teaser ) Releasing today !
http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631 -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)
You are most welcome. It was in answer to the question: There has been criticism that your music is not original? http://www.pvv.org/~kailasan/interviews/chennai_news032000.htm From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:51:30 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-) Great post Manisha. Relief among boring CWG posts. Thanks again. Btw,In which interview he said ' I am inspired by beethovan,mozart,bach.. ' ( point 2 ). If you have the link please share. thanks. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: Wonderful wonderful Wonderful Very good post Manisha. Thanks for this. Lets all dive deep into this post and observe the essence On 9/1/10, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@... wrote: Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught my attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the most relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5. 1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of the church. People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front where people can appreciate your work. The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere. I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to have instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine nuances, that is enough for me. 2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already there. I do a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, reggae, rock and Carnatic music — my favourites. As far as possible, i try to be original. The rest is up to Allah. 3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It is just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our own selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the best, you will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very necessary for creation. I mainly work by instinct. 4. Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love… The inspiration, therefore, is a divine one.. 5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're bound to be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you earn in this lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get you the awards, but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes, that's the real Reward! Have a great month all :) ManishaM -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?
No offense meant to anyone !! I dont like watch comedy or romantic movies , they sound too boring to me ! It doesnt actually mean therez anything wrong in it !! it just they are not off my taste ! I know u write BIG reviews , i have read them so many times ,but i tend to skip them whenever possible !! May be because there are so many unknown words used ,many times i had look for a dictionary :P ( There are so many unknown words here ,even in this mail :P ) Anyway .. I dont mean anything else by this !! There are so many types of fans here ,most of them do diff kind of things.some1 finds rare stuffs , someone posts official news/infos...and so on ... So u r one of them and i have no prob whatsoever with u !! I dont know why u r taking this in a wrong way ! All is well :-) I just enjoy the information , downloads ,pics ,videos ,interviews ,experiences part !! And may be some more insights on music also !! If i love something ,i would just say I just love it ..I wouldnt go analyzing it ..it sounds bit complex to me,specially when it comes to ARR's music...The most lovable thing i have found as off now !! May be I am just way too frank that's why !! When someone posts an praise mail,some like it ,and some obviously dont like it ! then the fight of words begins !! I dont like this kinda situation here !! It wasnt here 2 years ago...but it is now .. !! So may be i am so much disturbed by all this that i had to request for put a hold on those praise mails !! Please i meant no offense to anyone !! Please forgive me if i've hurt anyone else !! It wasnt what i wanted ! For a start Try reading this one Matthew Islam A.R.Rahman Interview CBSO.dochttp://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YD1_TObPEac-FVMz-M63y76OD66JVRIoUe8zcLoAqiykQB5EaAcJ2BuDSCHS8We8_ojhi2VeNkz1f3ng2E1DR9fY6_nWcLg/Matthew%20Islam%20A.R.Rahman%20Interview%20CBSO.doc I think i can read this hundreds of times without getting bored of it ! may b i am bit biased towards my countrymen here :P On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:57 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Rajib, I appreciate your request for experiences and rare stuff. That should certainly be more a part of our group's discussions. However, this is a FAN group. As fans, we praise and appreciate ARR. A lot of us are emotional about ARR and his music and hence express our emotions here too positively in praise of him. I don't see anything wrong in that. If you don't appreciate that part of our group, that's fine, but please don't expect others to suddenly rake in praises for ARR when a lot of us do feel emotional about him and his music. It only comes naturally to a lot of us. Now, I don't approve of being a fanboy and throwing praises to each and every ARR song or release. I also appreciate constructive criticism and I have been critical of ARR's music in the past. I agree with the overall theme of your post that either extreme is not goodtoo much praise and too much negativity. Some here have alluded and insinuated that I only write about ARR in a positive way or write large reviews just to attract attention from ARR and create hype. That is utterly and completely false. Those who know me personally know that I am sincere about my write ups about ARR and his music and that I just don't hype things up just to attract praise or ARR's attention. For me, it's a form of self expression, almost like another artthe art of appreciating ARR and his music. I repeat, I do NOT consider myself a fanboy and I do NOT create writeups just for hype and praise. I have much better things to do in my life like being a father to my 2 small chlidren, working a professional job, being a good husband and son, and being a good citizen in general. I'm a lot more secure about myself than some of you think I am. So, those of you in this group who like to throw barbs at me every now and then, please stop as your accusations and insinuations have no bearing or ground whatsoever except your crooked thinking. You don't know me personally. Rajib, I hope you were not alluding to me your post and I hope you were not trying to throw a barb my way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: If i can talk about myself here , I find it a waste of time to even praise ARR.Everyone can praise him in hundreds of different ways , using thousands of different words.Therez no end to it !! and there should not be any,but all those praising mails doesn't amuse me much !! Share experiences instead,they r more interesting !! Many times i skip all those praising mails !! I dont find them interesting,unless it is informative , NOT emotional. and therez no point of saying negative things about him. Seriously i dont find the need of it unless u want a big attraction from here ( I am sure some people is very successful in it ) !! Let's keep this emotional praises and negativity aside and be informative !! try collecting some rare info
[arr] Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?
Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran CWG song, it just occurred to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number. I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water songs. Been long time. Regards Aakarsh
[arr] most diffucult song composed by ARR
I remember reading a post long time back that the most difficult song that would have have been composed by ARR was Thee Thee from Thiruda THiruda, in terms of the arrangement and programming tools available at that timewhat other songs can you guys think of??? Ryaaz
Re: [arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print
Pls send me individual emails, and not to the groups... On 9/2/10, Chella rcgr...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I need the T-Shirt... Tell me the details... Cost... How to get it from u.. I am from Chennai Only --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)
Great post!! I completely agree... Let's discuss something else instead of the negativity going around the media...I personally request members not to post cheap comments from various sites that don't bring any value to our man or any one in this group for a purposeful analysis. Posting such things will only increase hatred among people, some may get angry, some may criticize other music directors, and so on which is totally uncalled for...Let's not add fuel and allow it to grow...Let's bring the positive vibes back again... On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:40 AM, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.com wrote: Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught my attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the most relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5. 1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of the church. People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front where people can appreciate your work. The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere. I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to have instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine nuances, that is enough for me. 2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already there. I do a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, reggae, rock and Carnatic music — my favourites. As far as possible, i try to be original. The rest is up to Allah.” 3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It is just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our own selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the best, you will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very necessary for creation. I mainly work by instinct.” 4. ”Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love… The inspiration, therefore, is a divine one..” 5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're bound to be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you earn in this lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get you the awards, but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes, that's the real Reward! Have a great month all :) ManishaM -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...
Leave them. Take it as silly.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep after that -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Yes , its international, so original song should be in english, and also in various languages too. Song slowly growing after repeat hearings. Rahman magic! AR Rahman - His music for ears for years From: vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 1:07:38 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ??? Actually hindi is NOT the national language of India it's the princial official language (for govt. administration etc.)India has MANY national languages actually.. this is from Wikipedia: The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi, while English is the secondary official language.[2] The constitution of India states that The official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari script.[3] Neither the Constitution of India nor Indian law specifies a National language, a position supported by a High Court ruling.[4] However, languages listed in the Eighth Schedule of the Indian constitution are sometimes referred to, without legal standing, as the national languages of India.[5][6] --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: catchg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like the gospel truth? Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. *( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like the gospel truth? Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. *( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!)* So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
well.. if it is not true, i will be the most happy one here :) thanks gops, you always give hopes. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: Sent via BlackBerry -- *From: * Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 + *To: *arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *ReplyTo: * catchg...@gmail.com *Subject: *Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like the gospel truth? Sent via BlackBerry -- *From: * Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com *Sender: * arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Date: *Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530 *To: *arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *ReplyTo: * arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman
[arr] Cry Cry - First promo song from JHS
First song promo from JHS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GWj1_3b-7Y Each and every word is dedicated to CWG song bashers..please take it, with love..
[arr] Cry.. Cry...
http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments Simple but catchy song! Jhoota hi sahi ! -- Regards, Ram
[arr] Re: Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?
Aakarsh, I am sure Rahman will compose a classical song again, when he composes music for a film like Sangamam or Water. The stories of all of the other films you mentioned has no scope for classical songs like Narumugayae. And I know that you were just wishing and not complaining. Smile, Sureshkumar. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh...@... wrote: Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran CWG song, it just occurred to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number. I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water songs. Been long time. Regards Aakarsh
[arr] Re: most diffucult song composed by ARR
I felt, oru koodai sunlight was really complex!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, riyazeth riyaz...@... wrote: I remember reading a post long time back that the most difficult song that would have have been composed by ARR was Thee Thee from Thiruda THiruda, in terms of the arrangement and programming tools available at that timewhat other songs can you guys think of??? Ryaaz
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
I tend to disagree with this point. Lack of appreciation is not a reason to leave one's field. What happens if Hollywood failed to appreciate his work tomorrow? Do you want him to leave Hollywood as well? Personally, I don't want ARR to leave Bollywood or Kollywood (or whatever other woods we have in the film industry). Working against the tide has always been his style I believe, and he will succeed in this again, regardless of government projects or not. We can't be expecting every songs of ARR to be appreciated and his past accomplishments to be remembered. Then again, this is also not the first time ARR has been criticized by the media and public alike. There's just so much of negativity going on right now that people are failing to see the beauty in the CWG theme. I'm pretty sure that it's only a matter of time before people will start praising the same. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chris Raj chris78_...@... wrote: My thoughts on the controversies.. 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political influences and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as CWG board. 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and beome more popular ICON on hollywood... 3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would come beyond ARR for great music Raj From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
The problem is..that there is some projects which ARR can't deny. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:24 AM, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Chill guys..AR has seen even more harsher critics.I want AR to work on the projects he likes and gets inspired the most irrespective of whether its Government, Private, Government aided and anything else. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Chris Raj chris78_...@... wrote: My thoughts on the controversies.. 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political influences and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as CWG board. 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and beome more popular ICON on hollywood... 3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would come beyond ARR for great music Raj From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
ARR's T20 song was rocking..
Re: [arr] Why CWG song is targeted by...
your are absolutely right dude i am convinced with your arguments --- On Wed, 1/9/10, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Why CWG song is targeted by... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 9:32 AM Why CWG song is targeted by... Opposition - The name itself says Opposition, what more can one expect from them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the country didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this. Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. Just to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick and harry.. Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their displeasures about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. After all, they are the easy targets you see. So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that why only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for that song.. Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine reasons for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's all the time..and when Rahman gives them the album with 90's touch, they say that the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch... Just my opinion...not to hurt any one...
Re: [arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?
Actually, going beyond doesn't necessarily mean to surpass something. It can also mean to be different or away from something. In that light, probably ARR would have meant that CWG theme would be something different than Waka Waka rather than what was interpreted by the media. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:43 PM He said we would do something beyond Waka Waka. I think he meant something different but his choice of word can be easily interpreted as surpass. I was surprised by his response initially. But having seen and heard almost every AR interview in the last 10 -12 years, i just ignored it as inappropriate choice of word. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven niven...@... wrote: which he had famously claimed his tune would surpass??? Did Rahman mention this? I am very doubtful!!! Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: http://movies.indiatimes.com/News-Gossip/News/AR-Rahmans-theme-track-for-CWG-rejected/articleshow/6472955.cms Regards Aakarsh
Re: [arr] Orchestral Theme Composition
Good job Kitcha. I like it . On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:18 PM, kitcha_swamy kitcha_sw...@yahoo.com wrote: AR... AR... is all I think about when making Music from home. I just made this little soundtrack kind of a theme with pure inspirations from AR's works. The idea came when I was listening to AR's masterpiece BGM in the movie Indian. The scene where the Indian would be hiding from the cops driving the mortuary van. The music would come during all those escape sequences. You should hear that BGM. The music will RIP through you :) Well, i'm just a novice and its only an inspirtaion. Would be happy if I get some comments on this piece :). The link to the theme is : http://www.muziboo.com/kitcha/music/orchestral-theme-with-harmonies-original-composition/ Thanks, kitcha
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Whose music taste are you talking about? ARR's? Kishore's? Giving an opinion is definitely acceptable. But making it to sound like a fact is not acceptable. I wouldn't mind if someone feels that Jai Ho's music is path breaking...maybe it is for them. But if he says it as a fact, then yes, I would have a problem with it. Likewise, I wouldn't mind if Kishore (or anyone for that matter) thinks that Ghajini is a mediocre or below average album. But when you undermine another person's interest/taste for liking the same, esp when you quote something like there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), then yes, you can bet that I'll have a problem with that! Btw, I don't like Ghajini but that doesn't make it a bad album. I hope you get my point. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job
your are right dude let promote the song through social networking too --- On Wed, 1/9/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 11:43 PM Play the CWG track all the freakin time, promote it, play it in your car, house, office, if you are a DJ..play it loud in your club. Just play it all the freakin time in front of other people...let them all get a chance to grow into the track. Time for Fans to do the job. Remember, this rarely happens with AR.Infact never. --- My charity at Cradleindia.org and music at wiredbeats.com
[arr] Again..being Critics..now CWG
Rubbish, I dont think its worth talking about it, We all deep inside know that the song is excellent, why would you want to compare 2 songs falling way apart in genres, please ask shakira to compose a shehidiye (Alaipayuthe), she cannot...I will stop listening to ARR is anyone else does, AR Rahman is at a different level, I still dont understand what people along with all you fans are expecting, his songs are as good as ever, Listen to them more and more, i bet you you would like them, I am sure we are not in a position to what to expect from him, which is leading to all this confusion, dont just blindly compare, while listening to a song - listen to that song only and thats it, why would you want to rate or compare. If the media is going ga ga, let them, why would you want to add you blah blah to it. I like all his compilations, i dont need anyone to tell me whats good or whats not, please decide for yourself if you want to continue doing it or not. Thanks for Reading Anil
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Good one, nice composition, there lot of minor things in the song which make it very attractive. --- On Mon, 8/30/10, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 10:58 PM Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
I too very strongly feel it's not upto his sky high standards. When it's AR Rahman,there is just no way to avoid unrealistic expectations. His repertoire has been consistently unrealistic to say the least! I don't think people expected a song similar to waka waka, but equally catchy and engaging (actually much more). It's a legitimate and natural expectation to have. I feel his creative freedom was constrained in case of this song by a long list of demands and specs for the song. They should have simply let him compose it his way and not try to put their own minds to it. He's not a machine! Nor is a song built to a list of specs! All said and done, it really is ok to fail to meet expectations once in the blue moon. It does not take away anything from his greatness. I see no need to make an issue about it. To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter how big or important they are! Cheers! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@... wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@... Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM  Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!) So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would have said the same. We are dealing with politicians here...remember! So chill. regards Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org  Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http://www.wiredbeats.com Â
[arr] ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''
''It is bad for the reputation of any musician'' ibnlive.com http://ibnlive.in.com/agency/ibnlive.com.html Posted on *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:00* | Updated *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:56* [image: Email]http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html [image: Print] http://ibnlive.in.com/printpage.php?id=130081section_id=8 66Sharehttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fibnlive.in.com%2Fnews%2Fit-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician%2F130081-8-75.htmlt=''It%20is%20bad%20for%20the%20reputation%20of%20any%20musician''%20-%20Movies%20News%20-%20News%20-%20ibnlivesrc=sp 1 The industry is abuzz with the recent news that the *Commonwealth Games*http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html ** officials now want A R Rahman's Rs 5 crore theme track *Swagatham* to be 'recomposed'. Fellow musicians talk to IBNLive about their reactions to the rumours... Singer Shaan feels that Rahman as a composer has his own beliefs about his compositions. Shaan says, “Rahman generally takes a brief and takes it ahead from there. What I would like to say is that the CWG officials should work on their own shortcomings and pull their act together.” He adds, “We are so scared of getting humiliated in front of the whole world with the CWG. Don’t waste time finding faults in Rahman.” Kavita *Krishnamurthy*http://connect.in.com/krishnamurthy/profile-1900597.html ** has been busy traveling and admits she hasn’t had the time to hear Rahman’s composition. However, she points out, “For any composer, for example if my husband has been commissioned to compose a song...from the beginning to the end, the organizers are always involved. While the entire song is taking shape, they (organizers) are involved. If there are certain changes to be made, the composer should have been alerted from step one.” She adds emphatically, “It is bad for the reputation of any musician. It is very hurting.” [image: A R Rahman at an event] Music director *Anu Malik*http://connect.in.com/anu-malik/profile-24443.html ** has not heard *Swagatham* either. He, however, explains, “I have not heard the song but the broader thing is…Rahman is a gifted composer. It all depends on what brief had been given to him. For the kind of money that has been paid (reportedly 5 crore), it is a huge amount. I am sure if Rahman has composed the theme track, it must be very good. But if something takes about four, five or six months, was the brief given in the first place OK? The net reaction to the track has not been that good. At the end of the day, Indians are very emotional towards their music.” Music director Bappi Lahiri admits he has not heard the song. He says, “I have not heard the song yet and therefore would not like to comment on the matter.” By Sujata Chakrabarti http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] CWG anthem 2010 and Increasing Criticism
I wish AR shouldn't compose new tune ... Becoz if ARR did so , it may be consider as the victory of CRITICS . On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Rafid rafid.nuhu...@yahoo.com wrote: The anthem is being bashed and blamed like anything every nook and corner. Many have forgotten what ARR has achieved in the past. He has been the inspiration to many current and up-and-coming music composers. Many composers copy him that many people in general don't know and they just like the typecast songs of other composers and say, `wow, what a composition, ARR has lost his touch way back, why doesn't he compose songs just like as he did in 90's?' Some envious people have been awaiting an opportunity to slander him, and now they have got their move and keep hurting him. Being fans, we can't bear it at all. In this situation, what I think is that ARR should come up with a mass appeal new anthem before the CWG starts and the song should be applauded and liked by whole lotta people on the first hearing – that will make the critics dumbstruck. I really badly need ARR to compose a new song before CWG strikes up. Will it happen? -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
Yes, Please spare ghajini. and yes, please don't make assumptions.we are here for a reason. the reason why we bacame the FANS. we are not analyzing the music of a debutant Music director here.18 years is not short period or a shortime wonder! so , better assumption would always be okay..this is not my type ..but there are a lot who like this. Or This is my Type! but yea, there could be others who don't like it. otherwise what we are doing is doubting ourselves here! Regards Jamshid --- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:39 PM As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?
I am eagerly waiting for another songs like Sangamam... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Aakarsh aakarsh...@yahoo.com wrote: Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran CWG song, it just occurred to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number. I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water songs. Been long time. Regards *Aakarsh * ** * http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com/ * -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
Re: [arr] most diffucult song composed by ARR
Before some years in an interview in a magazine ( i can't remember the name ) ARR said that he faced some difficulties to compose Maya machindra from indian.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, riyazeth riyaz...@hotmail.com wrote: I remember reading a post long time back that the most difficult song that would have have been composed by ARR was Thee Thee from Thiruda THiruda, in terms of the arrangement and programming tools available at that timewhat other songs can you guys think of??? Ryaaz -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
[arr] Re: Cry.. Cry...
WoW...WoW.really a simple but catchy song!!!.ARR doesn't speak anything, his works speak for him!To all bashers, Ippo vaangadaa:D...:D...:D... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ram R ramkumar.ramachand...@... wrote: http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments Simple but catchy song! Jhoota hi sahi ! -- Regards, Ram
[arr] Re: SUPPORT CWG theme music
Can we as a group do anything to support boss's theme music like making online votes etc to voice out our liking and spread the word around us using all the social networking tools to get votes for the theme music? Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Manaf mana...@... wrote: Leave them. Take it as silly.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@...wrote: yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep after that -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
Re: [arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...
In tamil there is a saying, aayiram kaigal maraithaalum, aadhavan maraivathillai which means, even though a thousand hands are spread, they can never hide the sun!!!...Our Boss is like a Sun for Indian music, so these media guys cant do anything!!!...They will start praising him as soon as he wins his next oscar!!!...Till then, we'll have to just enjoy their discussions:D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Manaf mana...@... wrote: Leave them. Take it as silly.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@...wrote: yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep after that -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
Re: [arr] Cry Cry - First promo song from JHS
Rashid n Shreya ..If I am not wrong.. ..Sudan On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.comwrote: First song promo from JHS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GWj1_3b-7Y Each and every word is dedicated to CWG song bashers..please take it, with love..
Re: [arr] Cry.. Cry...
Good reply for CWG officials. Next line should be crib crib itna crib kartey kaiku ..!!! Lol what a timing.
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
Common wealth games is a non profit trust registered under Indian trust act. and they should by law publish the expenses they incurred. If that#39;s the case we would know about the fees charged for the theme song sooner or later. I don#39;t think it#39;s that exorbitant. anyways. I checked there is no record of financials in the CWG website. ideally they should publish the fees paid to rahmans#39;s office as he is effectively a vendor providing a services. regards Vivek
[arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!
Message to A.R.Rahman Sir: YES ! A.R.RAHMAN SIR, you know very well that WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, WE ARE YOUR TRULY FANS. With or without big hits, with or without awards, we are with you and have been following you since ROJA. I personnaly felt in Love with you and your personality for many reasons; for your music, for the person you are and for your ideology especially for your views for India and its people. Nobody in the cinema industry is more Indian than you and when people criticize you, you should not feel bad or react badly (I know it is not your way of behaviour, afterall we are all humans). All these critics are comparable to EVIL temptation to break all the Good you have achieve, by ignoring these critics and concentrating only on your music and taking into account that so many people love you will make you surpass this chaotic situation and then you will be compared to a Saint (which you are actually to my mind). Not only India, the world has always loved to bring down the stars, to put them on the floor and walk on them. Each individual in this world sometimes wants destruction of something which is successful. People does not like that the Numero 1 is always Numero 1. They will find unreliable reasons to bash the Numero 1. This is Jalousy and it is universal. A.R.Rahman Sir, I know that you are actually not that affected by all this, you have seen worst things happening in your life, and these critics are just ridiculous (comparing you to Himesh or any other, what crazy people !! Actually Himesh should thank you for this). Fans from all over the world support you !!! Message to ARR Fans: I am from Paris (France), I suggest that all the fans in the world do something to support ARR. Fans in India can group and protests peacefully and calmly on the street to support ARR Sir, or they can vote for ARR for the CWG theme, I have many ideas. I think the best way is to open an internet site to support ARR and the theme which will allow vote by fans from all over the world. If the officials don't like ARR theme, do they have another one to compare it to ? Let the people select the theme, that will be more reasonable. Why everybody is silent, common guys do something, you can not count on politicians and media, they are generally the same worldwide acting only by personal interest, India is THE biggest democracy in the world, people should do something from Serge BELIER To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: moinboss4...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:54:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
[arr] ARR did not force anybody to approve the Theme, Did he ????
There is one thing that I don't understand, the officials and the politicians have initially approved the song, isn't it??? How come that once the release they criticize it ??? ARR didn't force anybody to approve this theme, did he ??? If I have well understood, an official commuty were in charge of approving the song??? Now if the song is not well received, why is it only ARR fault ??? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: catchg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 + Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like the gospel truth? Sent via BlackBerry From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
Great post, Diya and well said! I agree! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, diya ganguly_d...@... wrote: I too very strongly feel it's not upto his sky high standards. When it's AR Rahman,there is just no way to avoid unrealistic expectations. His repertoire has been consistently unrealistic to say the least! I don't think people expected a song similar to waka waka, but equally catchy and engaging (actually much more). It's a legitimate and natural expectation to have. I feel his creative freedom was constrained in case of this song by a long list of demands and specs for the song. They should have simply let him compose it his way and not try to put their own minds to it. He's not a machine! Nor is a song built to a list of specs! All said and done, it really is ok to fail to meet expectations once in the blue moon. It does not take away anything from his greatness. I see no need to make an issue about it. To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter how big or important they are! Cheers! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbeats@ wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbeats@ Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM  Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!) So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would have said the same. We are dealing with politicians here...remember! So chill. regards Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org  Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http://www.wiredbeats.com Â
Re: [arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?
I understood you, Rajib. You have good intentions. My reference to those who throw barbs at me wasn't at youonly a few other members who I won't name. I just wanted to make sure that you weren't having any hard feelings towards me, that's all. No need to clarify as I have not misunderstood. Thanks! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: No offense meant to anyone !! I dont like watch comedy or romantic movies , they sound too boring to me ! It doesnt actually mean therez anything wrong in it !! it just they are not off my taste ! I know u write BIG reviews , i have read them so many times ,but i tend to skip them whenever possible !! May be because there are so many unknown words used ,many times i had look for a dictionary :P ( There are so many unknown words here ,even in this mail :P ) Anyway .. I dont mean anything else by this !! There are so many types of fans here ,most of them do diff kind of things.some1 finds rare stuffs , someone posts official news/infos...and so on ... So u r one of them and i have no prob whatsoever with u !! I dont know why u r taking this in a wrong way ! All is well :-) I just enjoy the information , downloads ,pics ,videos ,interviews ,experiences part !! And may be some more insights on music also !! If i love something ,i would just say I just love it ..I wouldnt go analyzing it ..it sounds bit complex to me,specially when it comes to ARR's music...The most lovable thing i have found as off now !! May be I am just way too frank that's why !! When someone posts an praise mail,some like it ,and some obviously dont like it ! then the fight of words begins !! I dont like this kinda situation here !! It wasnt here 2 years ago...but it is now .. !! So may be i am so much disturbed by all this that i had to request for put a hold on those praise mails !! Please i meant no offense to anyone !! Please forgive me if i've hurt anyone else !! It wasnt what i wanted ! For a start Try reading this one Matthew Islam A.R.Rahman Interview CBSO.dochttp://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YD1_TObPEac-FVMz-M63y76OD66JVRIoUe8zcLoAqiykQB5EaAcJ2BuDSCHS8We8_ojhi2VeNkz1f3ng2E1DR9fY6_nWcLg/Matthew%20Islam%20A.R.Rahman%20Interview%20CBSO.doc I think i can read this hundreds of times without getting bored of it ! may b i am bit biased towards my countrymen here :P On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:57 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: Rajib, I appreciate your request for experiences and rare stuff. That should certainly be more a part of our group's discussions. However, this is a FAN group. As fans, we praise and appreciate ARR. A lot of us are emotional about ARR and his music and hence express our emotions here too positively in praise of him. I don't see anything wrong in that. If you don't appreciate that part of our group, that's fine, but please don't expect others to suddenly rake in praises for ARR when a lot of us do feel emotional about him and his music. It only comes naturally to a lot of us. Now, I don't approve of being a fanboy and throwing praises to each and every ARR song or release. I also appreciate constructive criticism and I have been critical of ARR's music in the past. I agree with the overall theme of your post that either extreme is not goodtoo much praise and too much negativity. Some here have alluded and insinuated that I only write about ARR in a positive way or write large reviews just to attract attention from ARR and create hype. That is utterly and completely false. Those who know me personally know that I am sincere about my write ups about ARR and his music and that I just don't hype things up just to attract praise or ARR's attention. For me, it's a form of self expression, almost like another artthe art of appreciating ARR and his music. I repeat, I do NOT consider myself a fanboy and I do NOT create writeups just for hype and praise. I have much better things to do in my life like being a father to my 2 small chlidren, working a professional job, being a good husband and son, and being a good citizen in general. I'm a lot more secure about myself than some of you think I am. So, those of you in this group who like to throw barbs at me every now and then, please stop as your accusations and insinuations have no bearing or ground whatsoever except your crooked thinking. You don't know me personally. Rajib, I hope you were not alluding to me your post and I hope you were not trying to throw a barb my way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ wrote: If i can talk about myself here , I find it a waste of time to even praise ARR.Everyone can praise him in hundreds of different ways , using thousands of different words.Therez no end to it !! and there should not be any,but all those praising mails doesn't amuse me much !! Share experiences instead,they r
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter how big or important they are! very true and I agree to that. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:18 AM, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I too very strongly feel it's not upto his sky high standards. When it's AR Rahman,there is just no way to avoid unrealistic expectations. His repertoire has been consistently unrealistic to say the least! I don't think people expected a song similar to waka waka, but equally catchy and engaging (actually much more). It's a legitimate and natural expectation to have. I feel his creative freedom was constrained in case of this song by a long list of demands and specs for the song. They should have simply let him compose it his way and not try to put their own minds to it. He's not a machine! Nor is a song built to a list of specs! All said and done, it really is ok to fail to meet expectations once in the blue moon. It does not take away anything from his greatness. I see no need to make an issue about it. To Rahman I have only one request to make. Please refuse to be a part of any project that puts a barrier on creativity or demands a compromise in any form! You really don't need to be associated with any such project no matter how big or important they are! Cheers! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@... wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@... Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM  Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!) So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would have said the same. We are dealing with politicians here...remember! So chill. regards Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org  Remixes I Originals I Opinions at  http://www.wiredbeats.com  -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You
Nice writeup .ARR the best. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:38 AM, RAM KUMAR maharam_c...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Yes ARR sir, we are with you. These seem to be some sort of bad times for you. With the grace of God, I am sure you will come out stronger and I pray to God to be with you all the times. Once again, WE ARE WITH YOU. OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU. -- *From:* raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, 2 September, 2010 7:15:20 AM *Subject:* [arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You I am with AR as well. Please convey to AR that his fans are with him. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, nandatronics nandatron...@... wrote: Hi All, I wish and I desperately want to meet ARR and say to him that we all fans are with him. I request Gopal/ Vijay or some one close to ARR to convey that we are liking his CWG anthem and we are with him. I myself not able to resist from the kind of comments and thrashing the media and politicians are doing for the CWG and I don't know how ARR is feeling about all these. I also felt that ARR should never accept any requests especially if politicians are involved but what else he could have done, even if he had refused to compose the song earlier, all these politicians/ media and other music composers wud have commented that after after Oscars ARR has got some head weight and hence refused to compose for CWG and they wud have made it the headlines everywhere. As our media and politicians are know for the blame game. Even God cannot satisfy all humans So I request ARR not to get affected due to these negative comments and allow his creative mind peace to be disturbed. ARR We All Love You, We Know Your Worth, Quality, Originality, Hard Work and We Love your CWG theme as well. Good Job Keep Going.
Re: [arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!
Iam NOT serge Belier On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:25 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote: *Message to A.R.Rahman Sir:* YES ! A.R.RAHMAN SIR, you know very well that WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, WE ARE YOUR TRULY FANS. With or without big hits, with or without awards, we are with you and have been following you since ROJA. I personnaly felt in Love with you and your personality for many reasons; for your music, for the person you are and for your ideology especially for your views for India and its people. Nobody in the cinema industry is more Indian than you and when people criticize you, you should not feel bad or react badly (I know it is not your way of behaviour, afterall we are all humans). All these critics are comparable to EVIL temptation to break all the Good you have achieve, by ignoring these critics and concentrating only on your music and taking into account that so many people love you will make you surpass this chaotic situation and then you will be compared to a Saint (which you are actually to my mind). Not only India, the world has always loved to bring down the stars, to put them on the floor and walk on them. Each individual in this world sometimes wants destruction of something which is successful. People does not like that the Numero 1 is always Numero 1. They will find unreliable reasons to bash the Numero 1. This is Jalousy and it is universal. A.R.Rahman Sir, I know that you are actually not that affected by all this, you have seen worst things happening in your life, and these critics are just ridiculous (comparing you to Himesh or any other, what crazy people !! Actually Himesh should thank you for this). Fans from all over the world support you !!! *Message to ARR Fans:* I am from Paris (France), I suggest that all the fans in the world do something to support ARR. Fans in India can group and protests peacefully and calmly on the street to support ARR Sir, or they can vote for ARR for the CWG theme, I have many ideas. I think the best way is to open an internet site to support ARR and the theme which will allow vote by fans from all over the world. If the officials don't like ARR theme, do they have another one to compare it to ? Let the people select the theme, that will be more reasonable. Why everybody is silent, common guys do something, you can not count on politicians and media, they are generally the same worldwide acting only by personal interest, India is THE biggest democracy in the world, people should do something from Serge BELIER -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: moinboss4...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:54:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
[arr] Video: Harris praising AR in Isai aruvi awards 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWfqvX6OOs
Re: [arr] Cry.. Cry...
lol.. it was as if telling the media not to whine! On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Good reply for CWG officials. Next line should be crib crib itna crib kartey kaiku ..!!! Lol what a timing. -- * From: * Ram R ramkumar.ramachand...@gmail.com; * To: * arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com; * Subject: * [arr] Cry.. Cry... * Sent: * Thu, Sep 2, 2010 4:16:55 AM http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326commentshttp://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#%21/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments Simple but catchy song! Jhoota hi sahi ! -- Regards, Ram -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''
there are some sensible comments here. and I was most surprised about Anu Malik's comment. he sounds so mature and sensible here unlike what i used to read in the 90s. well, at least there is a bunch of people who understand all these On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician'' ibnlive.com http://ibnlive.in.com/agency/ibnlive.com.html Posted on *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:00* | Updated *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:56* [image: Email]http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html [image: Print]http://ibnlive.in.com/printpage.php?id=130081section_id=8 66Sharehttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fibnlive.in.com%2Fnews%2Fit-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician%2F130081-8-75.htmlt=%27%27It%20is%20bad%20for%20the%20reputation%20of%20any%20musician%27%27%20-%20Movies%20News%20-%20News%20-%20ibnlivesrc=sp 1 The industry is abuzz with the recent news that the *Commonwealth Games*http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html ** officials now want A R Rahman's Rs 5 crore theme track *Swagatham* to be 'recomposed'. Fellow musicians talk to IBNLive about their reactions to the rumours... Singer Shaan feels that Rahman as a composer has his own beliefs about his compositions. Shaan says, “Rahman generally takes a brief and takes it ahead from there. What I would like to say is that the CWG officials should work on their own shortcomings and pull their act together.” He adds, “We are so scared of getting humiliated in front of the whole world with the CWG. Don’t waste time finding faults in Rahman.” Kavita *Krishnamurthy*http://connect.in.com/krishnamurthy/profile-1900597.html ** has been busy traveling and admits she hasn’t had the time to hear Rahman’s composition. However, she points out, “For any composer, for example if my husband has been commissioned to compose a song...from the beginning to the end, the organizers are always involved. While the entire song is taking shape, they (organizers) are involved. If there are certain changes to be made, the composer should have been alerted from step one.” She adds emphatically, “It is bad for the reputation of any musician. It is very hurting.” [image: A R Rahman at an event] Music director *Anu Malik*http://connect.in.com/anu-malik/profile-24443.html ** has not heard *Swagatham* either. He, however, explains, “I have not heard the song but the broader thing is…Rahman is a gifted composer. It all depends on what brief had been given to him. For the kind of money that has been paid (reportedly 5 crore), it is a huge amount. I am sure if Rahman has composed the theme track, it must be very good. But if something takes about four, five or six months, was the brief given in the first place OK? The net reaction to the track has not been that good. At the end of the day, Indians are very emotional towards their music.” Music director Bappi Lahiri admits he has not heard the song. He says, “I have not heard the song yet and therefore would not like to comment on the matter.” By Sujata Chakrabarti http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~* -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!!
Lol.. good one KP! The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 2 September, 2010 6:36:32 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Fans from France say WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN !!! Iam NOT serge Belier On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:25 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote: Message to A.R.Rahman Sir: YES ! A.R.RAHMAN SIR, you know very well that WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, WE ARE YOUR TRULY FANS. With or without big hits, with or without awards, we are with you and have been following you since ROJA. I personnaly felt in Love with you and your personality for many reasons; for your music, for the person you are and for your ideology especially for your views for India and its people. Nobody in the cinema industry is more Indian than you and when people criticize you, you should not feel bad or react badly (I know it is not your way of behaviour, afterall we are all humans). All these critics are comparable to EVIL temptation to break all the Good you have achieve, by ignoring these critics and concentrating only on your music and taking into account that so many people love you will make you surpass this chaotic situation and then you will be compared to a Saint (which you are actually to my mind). Not only India, the world has always loved to bring down the stars, to put them on the floor and walk on them. Each individual in this world sometimes wants destruction of something which is successful. People does not like that the Numero 1 is always Numero 1. They will find unreliable reasons to bash the Numero 1. This is Jalousy and it is universal. A.R.Rahman Sir, I know that you are actually not that affected by all this, you have seen worst things happening in your life, and these critics are just ridiculous (comparing you to Himesh or any other, what crazy people !! Actually Himesh should thank you for this). Fans from all over the world support you !!! Message to ARR Fans: I am from Paris (France), I suggest that all the fans in the world do something to support ARR. Fans in India can group and protests peacefully and calmly on the street to support ARR Sir, or they can vote for ARR for the CWG theme, I have many ideas. I think the best way is to open an internet site to support ARR and the theme which will allow vote by fans from all over the world. If the officials don't like ARR theme, do they have another one to compare it to ? Let the people select the theme, that will be more reasonable. Why everybody is silent, common guys do something, you can not count on politicians and media, they are generally the same worldwide acting only by personal interest, India is THE biggest democracy in the world, people should do something from Serge BELIER To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: moinboss4...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:54:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job
1 Lakh 7 hearings in the first 5 days of uploading. Let we need another proof ? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Surya Chivukula suryachivuk...@ymail.comwrote: your are right dude let promote the song through social networking too --- On *Wed, 1/9/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 11:43 PM Play the CWG track all the freakin time, promote it, play it in your car, house, office, if you are a DJ..play it loud in your club. Just play it all the freakin time in front of other people...let them all get a chance to grow into the track. Time for Fans to do the job. Remember, this rarely happens with AR.Infact never. --- My charity at Cradleindia.org http://www.cradleindia.org/ and music atwiredbeats.com http://www.wiredbeats.com/ -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] ARR did not force anybody to approve the Theme, Did he ????
Juz curious... Which part of India u belong to sir? Or is it that u have no relation with India ...u r a french national? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:34 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote: There is one thing that I don't understand, the officials and the politicians have initially approved the song, isn't it??? How come that once the release they criticize it ??? ARR didn't force anybody to approve this theme, did he ??? If I have well understood, an official commuty were in charge of approving the song??? Now if the song is not well received, why is it only ARR fault ??? -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: catchg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 + Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like the gospel truth? Sent via BlackBerry -- *From: *Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com *Sender: *arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com *Date: *Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530 *To: *arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *ReplyTo: *arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On *Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman
[arr] Remanika Sarees - Awesome jingle by AR in Malayalam (pre-Roja days)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmX8m-M6WY