Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
ya true pls dun make such rash decisions. --- On Fri, 31/10/08, rivjot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: rivjot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 3:43 PM Please Vithur, dont take your decision until we hear something from Rahman sir himself. I am sure Vijay/Gopal will bring this to our boss's attention. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things are getting worse... This is my last BGM shared... I am not sharing henceforth. This is giving me sleepless nights Let me not become the target of contradictions, after doing my best for the groups ... Gops... If possible can you delete the sangamam BGMs which I shared from the groups archive.. No BGMs... No disclaimer.. . Sorry for the trouble.. Thanks to Vijay Iyer. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM, : Avinash : avinashdc21@ ... wrote: Vithur, I suggest that to limit the availability of these BGMs only to dedicated ARR fans, you can put a password to the RAR files. Also thes downloads should not be available for a longer period on sites. The concern is, there are numerous websites which host these BGMs for download (even in their sites), so some non-rahmaniacs pros always waiting for these... :) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com, Vithur vithurm@ wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, vijay.mohan. iyer@ wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur vithurm@ Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafir e.com/?idegjmlyz ng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading: * *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; Can we eat cactus?
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
I AGREE VITHUR LETS SPREAD DA JOY OF ARR'S MUSIC AND ALL OF US TAKE A PLEADGE AND PROMISE TO BE TRUTH AND PLS TOK 2 ARR TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE I M SURE HE WILL HELP HIS DEAR FANS... AND PLS RELEASE ROBO BMG AS A CD.. I BEG THE PRODUCERS --- On Fri, 31/10/08, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:35 AM Thanks Amith, much appreciated! That was the least I could have done.. when I used to share. I have stopped sharing all together. Could you then show us the right way and guide us please, we need your expert advice? Thanks, Wasim. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Amith Chandhran amithchandhran@ ... wrote: Though it is nicely drafted - the disclaimer, from a legal point of view, does not relax the customers from the applicable legal provisions. The interest in the copyrights will still remain with the original assignees. You pay and buy the original copyrighted material, but your act of buying it won't transfer the copyrights to you. And the laws of the State will prevail over any such disclaimers. Thanks, - On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, vijay.mohan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. New Email names for you! Get the Email name you#39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
ORITE THERE GOES ANOTHER ONE OF US... SIGH,, THIS IS DISAPPOINTING BROTHERS AND SISTERS... COME ON LETS FIND A SOLUTION... --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 1:48 AM Things are getting worse... This is my last BGM shared... I am not sharing henceforth. This is giving me sleepless nights Let me not become the target of contradictions, after doing my best for the groups ... Gops... If possible can you delete the sangamam BGMs which I shared from the groups archive.. No BGMs... No disclaimer.. . Sorry for the trouble.. Thanks to Vijay Iyer. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM, : Avinash : avinashdc21@ yahoo.com wrote: Vithur, I suggest that to limit the availability of these BGMs only to dedicated ARR fans, you can put a password to the RAR files. Also thes downloads should not be available for a longer period on sites. The concern is, there are numerous websites which host these BGMs for download (even in their sites), so some non-rahmaniacs pros always waiting for these... :) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, vijay.mohan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafir e.com/?idegjmlyz ng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading: * *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Please Vithur, dont take your decision until we hear something from Rahman sir himself. I am sure Vijay/Gopal will bring this to our boss's attention. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things are getting worse... This is my last BGM shared... I am not sharing henceforth. This is giving me sleepless nights Let me not become the target of contradictions, after doing my best for the groups ... Gops... If possible can you delete the sangamam BGMs which I shared from the groups archive.. No BGMs... No disclaimer... Sorry for the trouble.. Thanks to Vijay Iyer. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM, : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vithur, I suggest that to limit the availability of these BGMs only to dedicated ARR fans, you can put a password to the RAR files. Also thes downloads should not be available for a longer period on sites. The concern is, there are numerous websites which host these BGMs for download (even in their sites), so some non-rahmaniacs pros always waiting for these... :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Vithur vithurm@ wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, vijay.mohan.iyer@ wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur vithurm@ Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafire.com/?idegjmlyzng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading:* *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
RE: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject:[arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafire.com/?idegjmlyzng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading:* *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Way to Go Vithur.. This is a good way of Giving to the World.. :) From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2008 9:21:03 PM Subject: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafir e.com/?idegjmlyz ng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... DISCLAIMER Please read before downloading: By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject:[arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafire.com/?idegjmlyzng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading:* *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Vithur, We all have enjoyed the BGMs that you and others have ripped till date and really appreciate the pain and efforts taken. Since the matter has worsened, we have to really find a permanent solution. I really don't agree with the Disclaimer part. It doesn't look authentic at all. I'm not sure about the copyright law for extracted music. However, there are two things related here. 1) End user piracy - You own the original Cd/Dvd but make a copy or extract a significant amount of the content and give it to others. 2) Internet piracy - By sharing a copyright work via internet. This facilitates piracy. Putting a disclaimer note might help you get rid off the risk of lawsuits but will still facilitate piracy. What if someone uploads low quality Mp3 songs and put a similar disclaimer?? Moreover when you say for backup purposes, you should have the original. Here the BGMs are modified from the original. Vocals are removed, Noise and Hiss is removed etc... Really need some expert help...Any experts out there, please help! Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafire.com/?idegjmlyzng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading:* *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Vithur, I suggest that to limit the availability of these BGMs only to dedicated ARR fans, you can put a password to the RAR files. Also thes downloads should not be available for a longer period on sites. The concern is, there are numerous websites which host these BGMs for download (even in their sites), so some non-rahmaniacs pros always waiting for these... :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject:[arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafire.com/?idegjmlyzng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading:* *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Things are getting worse... This is my last BGM shared... I am not sharing henceforth. This is giving me sleepless nights Let me not become the target of contradictions, after doing my best for the groups ... Gops... If possible can you delete the sangamam BGMs which I shared from the groups archive.. No BGMs... No disclaimer... Sorry for the trouble.. Thanks to Vijay Iyer. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM, : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vithur, I suggest that to limit the availability of these BGMs only to dedicated ARR fans, you can put a password to the RAR files. Also thes downloads should not be available for a longer period on sites. The concern is, there are numerous websites which host these BGMs for download (even in their sites), so some non-rahmaniacs pros always waiting for these... :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? -- original message -- Subject: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30/10/2008 9:37 pm Dear All, After having some discussions with Kaissiom Bhai regarding sharing of BGMs. , he suggested that I can add a disclaimer to the sharing of BGMs. . As many brothers have been requesting me individually to send them BGMs, I thought I can better mail it to the groups itself, with a disclaimer. So, here goes Sangamam Voiceless DVD Rip BGMs. http://www.mediafire.com/?idegjmlyzng Thanks Kaissiom Bhai... *DISCLAIMER * ** ** ** *Please read before downloading:* *By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you are downloading it strictly for backup purposes. I, Vithur, certify that I own the original content and rip BGMs only for sheer hearing and enjoyment. This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm only providing backups of the music which got released with the movie. I, Vithur, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these back-ups and release Vithur from all liabilities, which may arise -expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are complying with these regulations. This allows me (Vithur) to duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third parties. Vithur for ARR always * -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood; -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
its true man since the ripper's are making it only for rahman group member's we appreciate it... but the other website admin's r just stealing it from us something not fare bcose they wont really appreciate it.
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Though it is nicely drafted - the disclaimer, from a legal point of view, does not relax the customers from the applicable legal provisions. The interest in the copyrights will still remain with the original assignees. You pay and buy the original copyrighted material, but your act of buying it won't transfer the copyrights to you. And the laws of the State will prevail over any such disclaimers. Thanks, - On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful.
Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer
Thanks Amith, much appreciated! That was the least I could have done.. when I used to share. I have stopped sharing all together. Could you then show us the right way and guide us please, we need your expert advice? Thanks, Wasim. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Amith Chandhran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though it is nicely drafted - the disclaimer, from a legal point of view, does not relax the customers from the applicable legal provisions. The interest in the copyrights will still remain with the original assignees. You pay and buy the original copyrighted material, but your act of buying it won't transfer the copyrights to you. And the laws of the State will prevail over any such disclaimers. Thanks, - On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for sheer enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and I dont intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my name to it in anyway. All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which I am ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful.
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I got to listen to the songs of Sangamam after seeing the thread here. I think its a great musical movie. A movie which has lovely folk songs with very racy beats. Its a lovely blend of classical music and folk music. Songs like 'Margazhi Thingal which starts off with the famous Thirupavai has been sung beautifully to the raga of Sindhu Bhairavi. The transcendtal strumming of the tanpoora transfers one to an ethereal world. the song that impressed me most was 'Sowkiamma' sung by nityashri and this song shows one the nuances of the raga ' Maand'. Though I am not competent enough to comment on this, I think Maand is a hindustani raag and finds its place in carnatic music too as does the raga 'Desh'. ARR has shown his prowess in the field of carnatic classical music and am sure this one song is enough to make his critics eat a humble pie. The other song Varahanadhi Karai I think is using the raga Yemen Kalyani as its base though its a mix of folk music. But then again ARR has done it again bringing in fine blend of folk music and classical music. All in all its a great album I think. Cheers Mahiya --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:35 PM I feel I am blessed lucky that I have been given the opputunity and sense by god to enjoy rahman's music in whatever form he gives it to us. Ellam pughazhum iraivanke.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: LOLs.. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albumsInfact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don’t know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
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Incidentally, ARR himself mentioned in the Interview he gave to Radio City Chennai, that his favourite song nowadays have been Sowkiyaama from SANGAMAM Cheers On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Mahima Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got to listen to the songs of Sangamam after seeing the thread here. I think its a great musical movie. A movie which has lovely folk songs with very racy beats. Its a lovely blend of classical music and folk music. Songs like 'Margazhi Thingal which starts off with the famous Thirupavai has been sung beautifully to the raga of Sindhu Bhairavi. The transcendtal strumming of the tanpoora transfers one to an ethereal world. the song that impressed me most was 'Sowkiamma' sung by nityashri and this song shows one the nuances of the raga ' Maand'. Though I am not competent enough to comment on this, I think Maand is a hindustani raag and finds its place in carnatic music too as does the raga 'Desh'. ARR has shown his prowess in the field of carnatic classical music and am sure this one song is enough to make his critics eat a humble pie. The other song Varahanadhi Karai I think is using the raga Yemen Kalyani as its base though its a mix of folk music. But then again ARR has done it again bringing in fine blend of folk music and classical music. All in all its a great album I think. Cheers Mahiya --- On *Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:35 PM I feel I am blessed lucky that I have been given the opputunity and sense by god to enjoy rahman's music in whatever form he gives it to us. Ellam pughazhum iraivanke.. *[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] com* wrote: LOLs.. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic --- On *Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com* wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don't know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!! http://www.mymailsignature.com/ http://www.mymailsignature.com/?partner=ZGzeb001 http://www.mymailsignature.com/ http://www.mymailsignature.com/?partner=ZGzeb001 -- regards, Vithur HELP EVER; HURT NEVER; LOVE ALL; SERVE ALL
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true, Pavan.. the songs are constantly in my playlist for years now.. ARR can handles almost all genres with ease and perfection.. that's how versatile Rahman is.. i cant even think of any other music composer in the world handling all the genres as Rahman does.. letz hope that other people who claim other MD's as so-called best, would better understand this.. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:08 PM, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don't know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!! http://www.mymailsignature.com/ http://www.mymailsignature.com/?partner=ZGzeb001
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Very true Mahima, Actually, the song Varaga Nadhikarai from sangamam has the same pattern as a divine folk sufi Punjabi song Dama Dum Mast Kalandar...and dat folk song is composed in raaga yemen... This sufi song is very close to arr's heart..as he even said bout it in his interview wid simi garewal few years ago!!!and he even hummed few lines of this song!! Arr has produced such a great gem wid Varaga Nadhikarai...its composition has a divine love for God the same sufi madness!!! its my all time favourite!!And shankar mahadevan has done full justice to the mood of it!!! ~love music love life Neetika - Original Message - From: Mahima Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:26:41 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam I got to listen to the songs of Sangamam after seeing the thread here. I think its a great musical movie. A movie which has lovely folk songs with very racy beats. Its a lovely blend of classical music and folk music. Songs like 'Margazhi Thingal which starts off with the famous Thirupavai has been sung beautifully to the raga of Sindhu Bhairavi. The transcendtal strumming of the tanpoora transfers one to an ethereal world. the song that impressed me most was 'Sowkiamma' sung by nityashri and this song shows one the nuances of the raga ' Maand'. Though I am not competent enough to comment on this, I think Maand is a hindustani raag and finds its place in carnatic music too as does the raga 'Desh'. ARR has shown his prowess in the field of carnatic classical music and am sure this one song is enough to make his critics eat a humble pie. The other song Varahanadhi Karai I think is using the raga Yemen Kalyani as its base though its a mix of folk music. But then again ARR has done it again bringing in fine blend of folk music and classical music. All in all its a great album I think. Cheers Mahiya --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:35 PM I feel I am blessed lucky that I have been given the opputunity and sense by god to enjoy rahman's music in whatever form he gives it to us. Ellam pughazhum iraivanke.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: LOLs.. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albumsInfact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don’t know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
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Sangamam, IMHO, is a masterpiece. This album sounds always fresh, even on repeat mode ;-). Varaga Nadhi is Mahadevan at his best, I read that he worked with rahman overnight. Rahman capitalised on mahadevan's voice and no doubt he shows his mastery in composing carnatic classics. Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very true Mahima, Actually, the song Varaga Nadhikarai from sangamam has the same pattern as a divine folk sufi Punjabi song Dama Dum Mast Kalandar...and dat folk song is composed in raaga yemen... This sufi song is very close to arr's heart..as he even said bout it in his interview wid simi garewal few years ago!!!and he even hummed few lines of this song!! Arr has produced such a great gem wid Varaga Nadhikarai...its composition has a divine love for God the same sufi madness!!! its my all time favourite!!And shankar mahadevan has done full justice to the mood of it!!! ~love music love life Neetika - Original Message - From: Mahima Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:26:41 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam I got to listen to the songs of Sangamam after seeing the thread here. I think its a great musical movie. A movie which has lovely folk songs with very racy beats. Its a lovely blend of classical music and folk music. Songs like 'Margazhi Thingal which starts off with the famous Thirupavai has been sung beautifully to the raga of Sindhu Bhairavi. The transcendtal strumming of the tanpoora transfers one to an ethereal world. the song that impressed me most was 'Sowkiamma' sung by nityashri and this song shows one the nuances of the raga ' Maand'. Though I am not competent enough to comment on this, I think Maand is a hindustani raag and finds its place in carnatic music too as does the raga 'Desh'. ARR has shown his prowess in the field of carnatic classical music and am sure this one song is enough to make his critics eat a humble pie. The other song Varahanadhi Karai I think is using the raga Yemen Kalyani as its base though its a mix of folk music. But then again ARR has done it again bringing in fine blend of folk music and classical music. All in all its a great album I think. Cheers Mahiya --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:35 PM I feel I am blessed lucky that I have been given the opputunity and sense by god to enjoy rahman's music in whatever form he gives it to us. Ellam pughazhum iraivanke.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: LOLs.. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albumsInfact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oramâ¦.Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Muraiâ¦These songs will even melt a stone⦠I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) donât know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
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Thanks Mahima for your views Neetika,Yep..Vaaragi naadikarai is a awesome composition...It was a great experience to see Shankar Mahadevan perform Varagai Naadhikarai during chennai concert...He is an amazing performer... Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very true Mahima, Actually, the song Varaga Nadhikarai from sangamam has the same pattern as a divine folk sufi Punjabi song Dama Dum Mast Kalandar...and dat folk song is composed in raaga yemen... This sufi song is very close to arr's heart..as he even said bout it in his interview wid simi garewal few years ago!!!and he even hummed few lines of this song!! Arr has produced such a great gem wid Varaga Nadhikarai...its composition has a divine love for God the same sufi madness!!! its my all time favourite!!And shankar mahadevan has done full justice to the mood of it!!! ~love music love life Neetika - Original Message - From: Mahima Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:26:41 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam I got to listen to the songs of Sangamam after seeing the thread here. I think its a great musical movie. A movie which has lovely folk songs with very racy beats. Its a lovely blend of classical music and folk music. Songs like 'Margazhi Thingal which starts off with the famous Thirupavai has been sung beautifully to the raga of Sindhu Bhairavi. The transcendtal strumming of the tanpoora transfers one to an ethereal world. the song that impressed me most was 'Sowkiamma' sung by nityashri and this song shows one the nuances of the raga ' Maand'. Though I am not competent enough to comment on this, I think Maand is a hindustani raag and finds its place in carnatic music too as does the raga 'Desh'. ARR has shown his prowess in the field of carnatic classical music and am sure this one song is enough to make his critics eat a humble pie. The other song Varahanadhi Karai I think is using the raga Yemen Kalyani as its base though its a mix of folk music. But then again ARR has done it again bringing in fine blend of folk music and classical music. All in all its a great album I think. Cheers Mahiya --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:35 PM I feel I am blessed lucky that I have been given the opputunity and sense by god to enjoy rahman's music in whatever form he gives it to us.  Ellam pughazhum iraivanke.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: LOLs.. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic    --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albumsInfact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss.   Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album.  MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oramâ¦.Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Muraiâ¦These songs will even melt a stone⦠ I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) donât know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman.  It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking.  This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing.  I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!     Â
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Yes Pavan...U r absolutely right...D album makes Rahman reachin his heights over d nite... It was a gr8 album n he proved dat he is a genius in western classical n indian traditional music.. D swaras,ragas etc is simply mindblowin..His mixture of every raagas is 1 of kind...Infac d selections of singers..iz jz WOW.:)...My personal favourite Sowkiyama...Wat a song...!! - Original Message From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:08:42 AM Subject: [arr] Sangamam Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don’t know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
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LOLs. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don’t know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
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Dear At times you blame Rahmaniacs as not listening. Many in the past had discussed a lot and tonnes about Sangamam. You should have checked for earlier post. An example like me who don't understand a single word still have all his albums irrespective of language. Like you everyone has just 24 hours in a day and his reservation for listening. Everytime I listen to an ARR song I discover as if it was new but I can't blame that my discovery is just mine and others had not noticed. They certainly would have. That's the common thing about all of us here. On 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram….Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai…These songs will even melt a stone… I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don't know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!! Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I feel I am blessed lucky that I have been given the opputunity and sense by god to enjoy rahman's music in whatever form he gives it to us. Ellam pughazhum iraivanke.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOLs.. sudenly som ppl r concernd 4 ragumans tamil nos. good show. vic --- On Sat, 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Sangamam To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 8:38 AM Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram .Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai These songs will even melt a stone I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) dont know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
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Dude ! Sangamam is based on folk classical. The scope for scoring something unique is limited to script. One cannot expect a thiruda thiruda or jeans or duet, kandu kondaen sorts in this movie. Sangamam is based on a standard format music, given that, AR done a good job, what the movie demands. Dude there were classical tracks in Gentleman - En Veetu Thottathil, Duet, Kadhalan - Ennavalae, Love Birds - Malargalae. Hope these are pre-sangamam should melt everyone ;) rgds Ravi d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear At times you blame Rahmaniacs as not listening. Many in the past had discussed a lot and tonnes about Sangamam. You should have checked for earlier post. An example like me who don't understand a single word still have all his albums irrespective of language. Like you everyone has just 24 hours in a day and his reservation for listening. Everytime I listen to an ARR song I discover as if it was new but I can't blame that my discovery is just mine and others had not noticed. They certainly would have. That's the common thing about all of us here. On 6/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: Sangamam - This album by Rahman is one of my most fav.tamil albums...Infact I would place it right at top as my all time favourite. Not many people seem to be talking about this album. This is an absolutely a delightful album by our Boss. Rahman makes an excellent effort to produce South Indian Classical music and what a effect. Each and every song is amazing. Those who are well aware of raagas, would be able to describe the genius of Rahman in this album. MSV is amazing in aalalakanda , Shankar Mahadevan is mind blowing in Varaaga Nadhi Karai Oram .Mazhi Thuli,Maargazhi Thingal,Mudhal Murai These songs will even melt a stone I am surprised that some of our Rahmaniacs(those who listen to only selected tamil works) don't know about this album. Listen to this. This is a stunning effort from Rahman. It was released at time when Rahman was at peak of his career and people were criticizing Rahman that he cant do classical music. Then came Sangamam , as usual, Rahman let his work do all the talking. This album is an absolute masterpiece. A album I would cherish for the rest of life. Just cant get over this album..Its amazing. I can just thank Rahman for filling our lives with happiness and joys with his music. Thank You Sir !!!
Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
has shades of Mandu From mandu , you have come to the shades of Mandu... Do you need more authoritative statement on this. Yes, because, under what context he said so and what part did he say that it is Mandu..What I could recollect is that song has shades of Raaga Bouli also. Swapnil and other Classical Gurus can throw light here...I am a classical illiterate... people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed have given some thought to it. They are simply enjoying our heated conversation...tell me one guy who is supporting you with the same falsified conviction that you have...I have received mails personally from many here regarding this issue... Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called Malkouns) Correct...Thats great again. Why did he need to use that tune when other music directors have been using this RAGA in different style (i mean in Hindustani and Carnatic) and created beautiful tunes.. Where did he use the same tune...? the whole song is entirely different from the suprabhaatham...isn't it?..ARR used that suprabhatham tune in the prelude and one part of interlude because the whole situation starts on a fine morning and the heroine sets out free, meaning its anew pleasant morning for her. tell me if ARR had intended to actually copy it, did he do it in such a way on an obviously ever popular tune?Ingeyum Logic odhaikkudhuMadila ganam irundhaa than manasula bhayam irukkum...ARR used that tune as it is because, it was only supposed to be used like that...ithukku per thaan improvisation...just like how IR used mudhakaraatha modakam sloka tune into varaadhu vandha naayagan song for one of parthiban-Kushboo-Rupini film(I forgot the films name)...Atleast there the actual song will resemble the sloka tune, but here in the case of May Madam...no way man... Bye Karthik - Original Message - From: Pavana Kumar CM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!! Karthik, . Anjali.. Anjali.. in the charanam has shades of Mandu... and this has also been told by SPB in a programme (forget about me, as I am just a drop in the ocean of carnatic music) on Kairali called Symphony which comes every saturday night at 9:00PM.He told the strength of Rahman lies in the usage of this Raga and that's why he told both the songs in this file (Duet) are based on Raga Mandu... Do you need more authoritative statement on this. It's good that you are allowing me to express my views because there's some truth in it which you only are denying and people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed have given some thought to it. I am sure people are going to realize one day or the other and truth obviously cannot be suppressed. Naan onnu Vidwan innu sollikkaleye... though my knowledge of carnatic music is good, i cannot call myself an expert.. and for your kind information and whatever knowledge I have margazhi poove... song is based on Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called Malkouns). Why did he need to use that tune when other music directors have been using this RAGA in different style (i mean in Hindustani and Carnatic) and created beautiful tunes.. Pavana --- Karthik S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are a desperate fan of a drowning MD...right...anyway...my duty is to enlighten you with facts... I have learnt carnatic classical music Thing is you should learn it even better when you put on facts... Anjali..Anjali belongs to Raaga ..Behag a Hindustani raaga...where is Mandu there? Do you know the song Humko man ki shakthi dena song from do aakhen Baarah Haath...its a famous film and the song is also based on Behag...AGAIN A MIS-FIRE.. This is forum where one can express his views True ..that is why you are still expressing what you alone thing is a genuine opinion...HAs the moderator ever interfered in your blabbers...The moderator of your camp would have by now issued a fatwaif such an argument e vr even creeped in his group about his MD...We are no Talibans here...You are welcome to question...but remember for any thing there is a limit...when in rain if a jackal looses its colour of a tiger...then you know what will happen to it. nobody can deny it because it is so evident.. Only to you...Has anybody agreed to you...Gather few of your camp men who are in disguise here to come in support of you...In a country of such a large population (4500+ members) we can expects few black sheeps. but did he not copy the tune of kausalya supraja rama... This is the height of comedy ever...It is quite obvious that the tune is infact the suprabhathamwhy...because...The heroine in the film..gets introduced with that song in the morning...its a new day for her where she hopes to get free from her strict home..Dear Genius!!! don't you see the actual song
Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Hi Pavana,
I thought that music based on classical are meant to be
inspired, not copied. Is anyone creating new classical music anymore? then it
should not be called classical. You have to expand on what you mean by
"heavily inspired". Please be more specific. And we should also remember that
if someone sings a Saint Thyagaraja composition it doe'nt mean that he has
copied thesong. In a similar vein, if different lyrics are sung based on
a classical composition even if it exactly resembles the original will not be
a copy in my books. opinions might vary.
- Original Message -
From:
Pavana Kumar CM
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:15
PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT -
Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Hi Karthik, If you see the
place where Nityashree sings"Suriyan vanthu vaa enum pothu..." it is
DITTO DITTOCOPY OF "Vaanathil meedu mayil aada kanden...".
Thereis a lot of difference between inspiration and lift. I would
NOT AGREE with you in this regard. ARR mighthave classical
knowledge which I don't deny but mostof his classical songs are HEAVILY
INSPIRED.. Anotherone which I remember is "En veettu
thottathil..." Ifyou listen to the original version (which I am
notsure..) is exactly the same.Rgds,Pavana Kumar
C.M--- Karthik S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pavana, I do not appreciate your enthusiasm...because it
is misdirected...the song that you are referring to here is
a famous MS Subbulakshmi song called "Vanaththil meedhu
mayil aada kanden mayil kuil aachudhadi"...The point is both
the songs are based in same raaga Mandu and hence the
resemblence...The song I guess is written my Paapanasam sivan
(correct me if I am wrong)...It is quite famous...How can
you say ARR copied the song when all he did is use the
raaga...If you remember seeing TV , there was a program in Vijay
TV(Old Vijay) when this film was released and Actor Rehman
was going round the city and meeting people gathering opinion about
the film and the music...In one instance, he stopped in
front of some 3 elders (senior citizens) and asked about the
songs..They said that till then they had only heard ARR with
only electronic sounds and vessel braking noise(one person
mentioned it in a lighter vain)...but with sangamam, ARR gave
some pure classical song with out playing around
Ragaas...They specifically mentioned this nithyashree's song
and how it satisfied hardcore carnatic lovers like them..
Just for clarification purpose let me bring in IR (here
just for example)...many would have heard IR's classic
called Mogamul...there is a song called "Sollaayo vai
thirandhu" in raaga Shanmuga priya..If you listen to that it
will be exactly like a replica of "Vilayada idhu nerama" - a
famous carnatic song made popular my Maharajapuram Santhaanam...I
did not see any body claiming it to be a copied stuff...ALL
we need it is a little bit of common sense and understanding
about classical music and its adaptation..Certain raagas can
be improvised and certain cannot be and hence one has to
play it as per the strictures. Hope this
clarifies.. regards, Karthik -
Original Message - From: "Pavana Kumar CM"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005
10:07 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT - Blatant
Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Hi, This song is a
direct lift by ARR from some popular carnatic tamil song.
I can't remember the song. Both are in Mandu raaga...
Actually his classical numbers have a lot of inspiration
from popular carnatic keerthanas.
The song goes like "...mayilaada kanden... "
It is so evident especially when you hear the
1st charanam... If somebody can give the name of
the song it will be helpful
Rgds, Pavana Kumar C.M
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Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Many a time I have come across ppl saying ARR has copied or copies when asked where they will not b able to recollect which song. I dont know how to appreciate them with, bcos without knowledge of music though they are able to remeber ragaas. Pavan seems to be much like that. even when karthik has clarified so well, If he cannot agree it is his individual potential problem of not trying to understand. But rather try to be on limelight by making these kind of comments. pavan be clear just by one line or a bit U cannot declare it as a copy. If somebody say that the beats of Anbe from kadhal desam is a copy of Enigma it can be agreed (not sure if it was a loop that was been used by Enigma troop and ARR as well. But just hardly one sentence I think according to u one must reinvent raagas. Now what is that u want to prove, ARR doesnt match IR for SB. It might be a total folly to compare. If u think IR is unmatched go listen to some of the old classics in Kannada by GK Venkatesh who is also the guru for IR. U may have to take back thewords. Bcos I still feel that IR was not able to match GKV interms of his blend in harmony or melody at those ages. though IR got his own adv with technology later on. On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:15:18 -0800 (PST), Pavana Kumar CM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Karthik, If you see the place where Nityashree sings Suriyan vanthu vaa enum pothu... it is DITTO DITTO COPY OF Vaanathil meedu mayil aada kanden There is a lot of difference between inspiration and lift. I would NOT AGREE with you in this regard. ARR might have classical knowledge which I don't deny but most of his classical songs are HEAVILY INSPIRED.. Another one which I remember is En veettu thottathil... If you listen to the original version (which I am not sure..) is exactly the same. Rgds, Pavana Kumar C.M --- Karthik S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavana, I do not appreciate your enthusiasm...because it is misdirected...the song that you are referring to here is a famous MS Subbulakshmi song called Vanaththil meedhu mayil aada kanden mayil kuil aachudhadi...The point is both the songs are based in same raaga Mandu and hence the resemblence...The song I guess is written my Paapanasam sivan (correct me if I am wrong)...It is quite famous...How can you say ARR copied the song when all he did is use the raaga...If you remember seeing TV , there was a program in Vijay TV(Old Vijay) when this film was released and Actor Rehman was going round the city and meeting people gathering opinion about the film and the music...In one instance, he stopped in front of some 3 elders (senior citizens) and asked about the songs..They said that till then they had only heard ARR with only electronic sounds and vessel braking noise(one person mentioned it in a lighter vain)...but with sangamam, ARR gave some pure classical song with out playing around Ragaas...They specifically mentioned this nithyashree's song and how it satisfied hardcore carnatic lovers like them.. Just for clarification purpose let me bring in IR (here just for example)...many would have heard IR's classic called Mogamul...there is a song called Sollaayo vai thirandhu in raaga Shanmuga priya..If you listen to that it will be exactly like a replica of Vilayada idhu nerama - a famous carnatic song made popular my Maharajapuram Santhaanam...I did not see any body claiming it to be a copied stuff...ALL we need it is a little bit of common sense and understanding about classical music and its adaptation..Certain raagas can be improvised and certain cannot be and hence one has to play it as per the strictures. Hope this clarifies.. regards, Karthik - Original Message - From: Pavana Kumar CM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!! Hi, This song is a direct lift by ARR from some popular carnatic tamil song. I can't remember the song. Both are in Mandu raaga... Actually his classical numbers have a lot of inspiration from popular carnatic keerthanas. The song goes like ...mayilaada kanden... It is so evident especially when you hear the 1st charanam... If somebody can give the name of the song it will be helpful Rgds, Pavana Kumar C.M __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Thanks Ravi, I feel that Pavana is some one who lost his caravan and accidentally got mingled with us Pavana, I suggest that you better try to stick to your flock of people because, it is quite obvious from your tone that you do not belong to us...I am not saying this because I am pained or not able to refute you, I am saying this because, if you continue to put in such baseless allegation and that too on technical issue which you obviously are not SURE ABOUT, I am sure you will be kicked out by some of the hardcore ARR fans here who cannot tolerate B*ll Sh*t in this forum. Hope you take this mail positivelybecause all who have endeavored to prove ARR wrong have resulted in Negative Regards, Karthik - Original Message - From: Ravi d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!! Many a time I have come across ppl saying ARR has copied or copies when asked where they will not b able to recollect which song. I dont know how to appreciate them with, bcos without knowledge of music though they are able to remeber ragaas. Pavan seems to be much like that. even when karthik has clarified so well, If he cannot agree it is his individual potential problem of not trying to understand. But rather try to be on limelight by making these kind of comments. pavan be clear just by one line or a bit U cannot declare it as a copy. If somebody say that the beats of Anbe from kadhal desam is a copy of Enigma it can be agreed (not sure if it was a loop that was been used by Enigma troop and ARR as well. But just hardly one sentence I think according to u one must reinvent raagas. Now what is that u want to prove, ARR doesnt match IR for SB. It might be a total folly to compare. If u think IR is unmatched go listen to some of the old classics in Kannada by GK Venkatesh who is also the guru for IR. U may have to take back thewords. Bcos I still feel that IR was not able to match GKV interms of his blend in harmony or melody at those ages. though IR got his own adv with technology later on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Hi, For your kind information I have learnt carnatic classical music and don't try to teach me. First of all let me tell you one thing... Even Anjali Anjali... and Kathale en Kathale song from Duet also is based on Mandu only. Then how come those songs are not similar to Sowkkiyama song... Please analyze completely before you talk non-sense.. This is forum where one can express his views and if somebody has copied we need to agree... nobody can deny it because it is so evident.. I don't know whether ARR sat whole night to get inspired or not... but did he not copy the tune of kausalya supraja rama... from Suprabhatam in Margazhi Poove... from movie May madham... So why he has to copy that.. Because it is popular... In the same way he would have copied/lifted these tunes also. If you don't agree with it so be it... the fact is he has lifted --- Karthik S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (which I am not sure..) is exactly the same. You aren't sure but still will shoot the arrow...GreatI know from where you actually belong...but leave it...you are always welcome to argue (as long as some thing is yielded at the end.) Suriyan vanthu vaa enum pothu... it is DITTO DITTO COPY OF Vaanathil meedu mayil aada kanden That is the face of the raaga...How do you say that one should sing Mandu...tell me?...First of all...do you know what is a raaga...to put it simple...in lay mans term...its a Tune templateYou need to improvise on that but should not go out of the boundary of the template...I think you are imagining that ARR..wantedly sat thru all the night listening to MS Subbulakshmi's keerthanaa and then tried to fit it exactly some where in the middle of a song which obviously is in Mandu raaga from the beginning...Sema logic paa. En veettu thottathil the pallavi is AGMARK Senchurutti RaagamThe reason why it was in its AGMARK form is and similar to naadha vindu is because, the heroine in the film is Brahmin and when she sings for the first time, its some how should go along with her nativity and hence the song also follows senchurutti Naadha vindhu...here is where ARR genius sparkles..he immediately changes it into Hamsadhwani in the interlued and shankara bharanam in the Charanam...indicating that it is a deviation in the heroine's mind and he dreams about her love Don't just here what some Anti - Arr has to say to you and come here and vomit...do some Home work first before accusingFIRST THINGBE SURE of what you say. Bye Karthik - Original Message - From: Pavana Kumar CM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!! Hi Karthik, If you see the place where Nityashree sings Suriyan vanthu vaa enum pothu... it is DITTO DITTO COPY OF Vaanathil meedu mayil aada kanden There is a lot of difference between inspiration and lift. I would NOT AGREE with you in this regard. ARR might have classical knowledge which I don't deny but most of his classical songs are HEAVILY INSPIRED.. Another one which I remember is En veettu thottathil... If you listen to the original version (which I am not sure..) is exactly the same. Rgds, Pavana Kumar C.M __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
there is one thing u have to LEARN!!!..the difference between lifted/copy and inspired..for ur information all composition of ilayaraja and other MDs in india are based on raags..so not 100% of thier tunes are original..everything is based on a template tune... its how they package them that shows thier originality...as such, accusing ARR of lifting a tune and that too for a similarity of 1 to 3 words is UTTERLY ATROCIOUS...Many of ilayaraajas classical numbers have a lot of inspiration from popular carnatic keerthanas...and may i know why that is not a lift...if u still claim its a lift...then u should say all the MDs in india including ilayaraaja has been lifting tunes from keerthanas... this topic --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pavana Kumar CM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This song is a direct lift by ARR from some popular carnatic tamil song. I can't remember the song. Both are in Mandu raaga... Actually his classical numbers have a lot of inspiration from popular carnatic keerthanas. The song goes like ...mayilaada kanden... It is so evident especially when you hear the 1st charanam... If somebody can give the name of the song it will be helpful Rgds, Pavana Kumar C.M --- Srini Iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to forget Sowkkiymaa Kanne by Nithyasree, which is a great classical fast number. On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:26:57 -0800 (PST), Shiva Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I c sumbudy refering Sindhu Bhairavi... that was a classic... How about Sangamam? It is the only movie in which ARR has not used any electronic instruments... just pure music... a new face of carnatic music... Shankar Mahadevan's Varaha Nadikarai is an evergreen song... and then there is one song Margali thingal... which has Janaki madam's melodious voice (who says no one can match Lata Mangeshkar)... Hariharan's Mazhi thuli sangamam song in the end can bring tears... not only the music but the lyrics was also so touching in that song (hats off to vairamuthu)... i dunno if there is any kind of music which ARR has not explored... i've listened the LOTR BGM which was posted in this site a few days back... it is great... wotsay guys...? Shiv __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Srini Iyer __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!
Pavana, I do not appreciate your enthusiasm...because it is misdirected...the song that you are referring to here is a famous MS Subbulakshmi song called Vanaththil meedhu mayil aada kanden mayil kuil aachudhadi...The point is both the songs are based in same raaga Mandu and hence the resemblence...The song I guess is written my Paapanasam sivan (correct me if I am wrong)...It is quite famous...How can you say ARR copied the song when all he did is use the raaga...If you remember seeing TV , there was a program in Vijay TV(Old Vijay) when this film was released and Actor Rehman was going round the city and meeting people gathering opinion about the film and the music...In one instance, he stopped in front of some 3 elders (senior citizens) and asked about the songs..They said that till then they had only heard ARR with only electronic sounds and vessel braking noise(one person mentioned it in a lighter vain)...but with sangamam, ARR gave some pure classical song with out playing around Ragaas...They specifically mentioned this nithyashree's song and how it satisfied hardcore carnatic lovers like them.. Just for clarification purpose let me bring in IR (here just for example)...many would have heard IR's classic called Mogamul...there is a song called Sollaayo vai thirandhu in raaga Shanmuga priya..If you listen to that it will be exactly like a replica of Vilayada idhu nerama - a famous carnatic song made popular my Maharajapuram Santhaanam...I did not see any body claiming it to be a copied stuff...ALL we need it is a little bit of common sense and understanding about classical music and its adaptation..Certain raagas can be improvised and certain cannot be and hence one has to play it as per the strictures. Hope this clarifies.. regards, Karthik - Original Message - From: Pavana Kumar CM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!! Hi, This song is a direct lift by ARR from some popular carnatic tamil song. I can't remember the song. Both are in Mandu raaga... Actually his classical numbers have a lot of inspiration from popular carnatic keerthanas. The song goes like ...mayilaada kanden... It is so evident especially when you hear the 1st charanam... If somebody can give the name of the song it will be helpful Rgds, Pavana Kumar C.M Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
