[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
I'd love to see some politicians lead the way in finding things we can unite around. A real uniter, so to speak. I'm in total agreement with you on this - but fear the country is so polarized by absolutists who believe they are completely and totally right and anyone who doesn't agree with every aspect of their position is totally wrong. The immigration debate is a great (or bad) illustration of exactly that (just watch Lou Dobbs for a while as he clearly sees himself as the smartest man on earth). In a country who's entire system was built on compromise it seems that compromise has become a four-letter word. To me, that's scary. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to see some politicians lead the way in finding things we can unite around. A real uniter, so to speak. One of my first consulting jobs was a uniter. A large co fired all their programmers and outsourced the work to India. It made the news. That failed. I came in as part of a new team of Americans. My job was to unite or translate the requirements to all the american programmers. The Asians, Russians, The Boys from India. The russians would draw a picture of the kremlin on a white board, because the room they worked out of had no windows. It reminded them of life in Russia. I had more fun, while getting paid, to work with all these guys and girls. Even more interesting, in evening, the code was shipped to Malaysia, so coding could continue for the next 12 hours, at a fraction of the price. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
In a message dated 6/20/2007 6:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but fear the country is so polarized by absolutists ... The immigration debate is a great (or bad) illustration of exactly that...In a country who's entire system was built on compromise it seems that compromise has become a four-letter word. To me, that's scary. Lots of scary shitake out there. 2000 years ago the Romans were suckered and distracted by bread and circuses. Orwell's 20th century version works too. War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength (bliss). (and keep 'em distracted by lotteries, shortages, pornography, and sensationalized media.). Distractions. More crawlers, more booming base sound effects touting Wolfe's latest just in, stay tuned. More chocolate Jesuses; red blue states, red alerts, if it bleeds it leads Keep 'em distracted and the 2% Inner Party will always thrive. Network redux: _Click here: Network (1976) - Memorable quotes_ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/quotes) And so it goes Unless more audiences like this act up: (YouTube segment) _Click here: Audience Heckles Matthews During Clinton Interview - Politics on The Huffington Post_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/06/19/audience-heckles-matthews_n_52875.html) Bravo! Soma, anyone? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] bloomberg
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[AsburyPark] The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
Well, they lasted 2 days. It really makes me sick to think that I spent my own money and time to try and beautify the fountain a little so it doesn't look forgotten and continues to be a dumping ground for people. I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. This morning, while driving by the park, I noticed that parts of the flowers that I placed there were scattered all over the fountain. I parked and went to take a look. The containers for the flowers were lying in the just cleaned up fountain. Petals everywhere, including many yards away on the path. It looks like somebody trashed them, then somebody else replaced the carcasses of the plants back in the urns. Oh, and somebody left a nice Coors Lite big assed beer can behind as a nice FU. Remember the commercial in the 70's with the Indian who had a tear running down his face because of all the litter? That was me this morning. One has to wonder what the hell our cities administration is doing when they know that this park is frequented every single night by drunks, drug dealers and prostitutes. The lighting is scarce, the police presence is zero. The cameras that everybody agrees would make a difference are nowhere to be seen. I wonder how many years it's going to take until that happens? And yes, I know there are more pressing problems to attend to, like the multiple shootings and 2 murders in the past couple of weeks. But when is somebody who we elected to run this city going to step up and make a difference? In my optimistic little world, i'd like to see the park fenced in, and it's care taken over by the people who love it and want to preserve it. We'd all have keys to get in. Cameras everywhere. Just like a beautiful park next to my favorite hotel in London. When you check in, you get a key to the park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: bloomberg
First we need to clone him and make him the mayor of Asbury Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not? Comments. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
Sorry to hear that. That really sucks. While it may seem like focusing on this stuff from a law enforcement perspective is secondary given the more serious crimes occurring so frequently, if there's anything that can be learned from NYC's efforts a decade ago it is that focusing on quality of life crime with zero tolerance is the best way to reduce the more serious crimes. Often the people caught in the activites you describe below are the same people who either have or will commit the more serious offenses. Zero tolerance for these kinds of offenses also sets a tone and expectation that law and decorum are important and failure to abide by them will not be tolerated - which again translates into an attitude that helps drive the entire city forward. We've had this discussion before and, like far to much in this city, nothing ever changes... Madison Marquette - if you are reading this board please have a voice on this issue. Whether publicly or privately you are the only voice of apparent reason that actually gets results (giving you credit I think is due for the recent prostitution stings), and this kind of crap is going to kill your investment if you don't weigh in and help drive change. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they lasted 2 days. It really makes me sick to think that I spent my own money and time to try and beautify the fountain a little so it doesn't look forgotten and continues to be a dumping ground for people. I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. This morning, while driving by the park, I noticed that parts of the flowers that I placed there were scattered all over the fountain. I parked and went to take a look. The containers for the flowers were lying in the just cleaned up fountain. Petals everywhere, including many yards away on the path. It looks like somebody trashed them, then somebody else replaced the carcasses of the plants back in the urns. Oh, and somebody left a nice Coors Lite big assed beer can behind as a nice FU. Remember the commercial in the 70's with the Indian who had a tear running down his face because of all the litter? That was me this morning. One has to wonder what the hell our cities administration is doing when they know that this park is frequented every single night by drunks, drug dealers and prostitutes. The lighting is scarce, the police presence is zero. The cameras that everybody agrees would make a difference are nowhere to be seen. I wonder how many years it's going to take until that happens? And yes, I know there are more pressing problems to attend to, like the multiple shootings and 2 murders in the past couple of weeks. But when is somebody who we elected to run this city going to step up and make a difference? In my optimistic little world, i'd like to see the park fenced in, and it's care taken over by the people who love it and want to preserve it. We'd all have keys to get in. Cameras everywhere. Just like a beautiful park next to my favorite hotel in London. When you check in, you get a key to the park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
Tommy, Thanks! I too, can't quite be in the mix, per se, as far as The Black Experience. I wasn't raised in the ghetto and had never heard the word, attributed to Blacks, until the riots of the 60's! I was so naive, I didn't know the projects, were public housing, or that public housing, was for low income people, of all races! I didn't understand why some whites, called us, the N word. I had never seen a Puerto Rican, or persons, readily speaking Spanish, until, I moved here! When I came East, in 1970, I couldn't understand Blacks, (older ones), referring to African Americans, as colored, when progressives like myself, self-defined myself, as African American or just plain Black, because I am really mixed, don't know which African tribe I descended, from! When I look back, now, I really led a charmed life. My father owned a business, and I, with my 3 siblings, attended Parochial School, for 13 years and stupidly assumed, people were poor, through their own fault! Why? My father always had 2 jobs, we lived in a home he bought after his service, in WWII. All of our family and associates were Roman Catholic! My family ran the gamut of complexions, so fair, they were mistaken for white and so black, it was undeniable, who they were! I stupidly thought all Blacks, looked like that, before I had formal Black Studies, out of curiosity, more than to seek the truth! There are still People of Color, in my home-town, who don't consider themselves as Black people, clinging to and denying, their Black Heritage. I feel sorry for them, for their apparent, ignorance! Katrina, should have opened their eyes! I've also learned from other ethnicities, the importance of teaching your children, who they are, what traditions they should adhere, to. Maybe one day, we can put our biases down and help each other. I still dream a world... Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assimilation, anyone? I bravo this column. Enjoy: __ The Politically Incorrect Americanism of Alba, Pacino, and Arnold By Mary Katharine Ham Tuesday, June 19, 2007 Hablas Espanol? Jessica Alba doesn't. Is there anything wrong with that? Apparently so. The third-generation American and actress is under fire this week from fellow Latinos for comments she made to Para Todos magazine: Alba is my last name and I'm proud of that. But that's it. My grandparents were born in California, the same as my parents, and though I may be proud of my last name, I'm American. Throughout my whole life, I've never felt connected to one particular race or heritage, nor did I feel accepted by any. If you break it down, I'm less Latina than Cameron Diaz, whose father is Cuban. But people don't call her Latina because she's blonde My grandfather was the only Mexican at his college, the only Hispanic person at work and the only one at the all-white country club. He tried to forget his Mexican roots, because he never wanted his kids to be made to feel different in America. He and my grandmother didn't speak Spanish to their children. Now, as a third- generation American, I feel as if I have finally cut loose. My whole life, when I was growing up, not one race has ever accepted me, ... So I never felt connected or attached to any race specifically. I had a very American upbringing, I feel American, and I don't speak Spanish. So, to say that I'm a Latin actress, OK, but it's not fitting; it would be insincere. She never felt connected to any race, specifically, but she always felt American. That doesn't sounds like a bad thing, does it? And yet, it is, in the eyes of many activists. One blog post on the comments remarks, Guess sell-outs come in all races and sizes. Another calls it a disturbing hoard of quotes. Another claims she hates Mexicans. Comments about Alba's comments include, F**K YOU THEN, JESSICA VIVA LA RAZA!!!, She should just change her last name to White, then, and I thought she could be a good role model for Latinas, but she is a fake, tryin' to be white. Alba wasn't trying to make a political statement. Instead, she sounds like she was trying to avoid speaking for an entire ethnicity and many recent immigrants when she barely speaks Spanish, and identifies as an American first. But because she didn't reflexively take upon herself her ethnic mantle and collective responsibility, she's bashed as a traitor to her race. Elsewhere, a phenomenally successful first-generation immigrant was sharing his secret to success in America, which was much the same as the approach Alba's college-educated grandfather took. When addressing the national Association of Hispanic Journalists, and responding to question about how Hispanics can improve academically, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said: You've got to turn off the Spanish television set and
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. ... == The Fountain was chosen because it was a safe project. While I was advocating for preservation of Historic Sites in the redevelopment area the APHS was busy spending over $30K (yes Thousand) on the fountain and park. It was not in a redevelopment area, would not be a controversial issue and would not be flagged as anti-development. I always said it was premature considering the social dynamics of the area and predicted that it would be destroyed. Over $30K that could have been spent on a lawsuit or injunction to prevent the destruction of Nationally significant historic sites and make this a better redevelopment plan. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
So, who will be running for the next elections in our city who might make a difference. I think it's high time that the mayor and council be replaced. Do you think that there are actually people out there who even want to take real charge of this city and are qualified to do so? What you say below is exactly what i've been bitching about for the past year, and you are so completely right...nothing ever changes. The most obvious things that need to happen in our city are completely ignored. My girlfriend and I got into an argument about this very subject the other night. She told me, once again, how scared she is to visit my apt at night...and as usual I defended the city, and insisted that the city could be fixed is the right efforts were made, and I used NYC as my example. She thought I was crazy... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear that. That really sucks. While it may seem like focusing on this stuff from a law enforcement perspective is secondary given the more serious crimes occurring so frequently, if there's anything that can be learned from NYC's efforts a decade ago it is that focusing on quality of life crime with zero tolerance is the best way to reduce the more serious crimes. Often the people caught in the activites you describe below are the same people who either have or will commit the more serious offenses. Zero tolerance for these kinds of offenses also sets a tone and expectation that law and decorum are important and failure to abide by them will not be tolerated - which again translates into an attitude that helps drive the entire city forward. We've had this discussion before and, like far to much in this city, nothing ever changes... Madison Marquette - if you are reading this board please have a voice on this issue. Whether publicly or privately you are the only voice of apparent reason that actually gets results (giving you credit I think is due for the recent prostitution stings), and this kind of crap is going to kill your investment if you don't weigh in and help drive change. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Well, they lasted 2 days. It really makes me sick to think that I spent my own money and time to try and beautify the fountain a little so it doesn't look forgotten and continues to be a dumping ground for people. I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. This morning, while driving by the park, I noticed that parts of the flowers that I placed there were scattered all over the fountain. I parked and went to take a look. The containers for the flowers were lying in the just cleaned up fountain. Petals everywhere, including many yards away on the path. It looks like somebody trashed them, then somebody else replaced the carcasses of the plants back in the urns. Oh, and somebody left a nice Coors Lite big assed beer can behind as a nice FU. Remember the commercial in the 70's with the Indian who had a tear running down his face because of all the litter? That was me this morning. One has to wonder what the hell our cities administration is doing when they know that this park is frequented every single night by drunks, drug dealers and prostitutes. The lighting is scarce, the police presence is zero. The cameras that everybody agrees would make a difference are nowhere to be seen. I wonder how many years it's going to take until that happens? And yes, I know there are more pressing problems to attend to, like the multiple shootings and 2 murders in the past couple of weeks. But when is somebody who we elected to run this city going to step up and make a difference? In my optimistic little world, i'd like to see the park fenced in, and it's care taken over by the people who love it and want to preserve it. We'd all have keys to get in. Cameras everywhere. Just like a beautiful park next to my favorite hotel in London. When you check in, you get a key to the park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
Mario; one word, AMEN! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:16:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about taking the opportunity to better one's own condition and that of their family by using all the resources available to them to get ahead? My kids want a huge on the ocean, boats and fancy cars. I busted my rear to have what I owe the bank today. On most weekends over the psat 20 years, my friends would stop by and i'd be covered in spackle, paint or dirt working on our house(s). This is America, the land of opportunity, of which there are tons. Sometimes you have to break out in a sweat to get paid. Most people don't want to That about the weakest argument against reparations there is on the topic. Among other things it doesn't address the issue of reparations for slavery and land granted, then taken back, which is what the proponents stress. Instead, it implies that anyone who doesn't achieve success must be lazy (never breaks out in a sweat). It's a very live issue. Try Reparation Arguments 101 where you'll find arguments from both sides. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery)(Wikimedia folks are still working on it; see the discussion page there.) Reparations 201: _http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200011/13_williamsb_reparations/_ (http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200011/13_williamsb_reparations/) And of Horowitiz's opposition: _http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1153_ (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1153) It's an issue I haven't formed an opinion on as yet, but recent precedents include our government's reparations to Japanese-Americans interred during WWII; various governments and banks to survivors and descendants of the Holocaust; Native-Americans and also Korean women. Still disputed in Japan and Turkey. The Christian Science Monitor's approach was to focus on the implications for corporations: _Click here: Slave reparations are unlikely, but lawsuit may prod companies | csmonitor.com_ (http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0328/p02s01-usju.html) Finally, Oakdorf writes: Having been around that world, as you have, I'm sure you noticed that at times, jobs are given to people who simply shouldn't have them, given the qualifications. Reminds me of many appointments made by the Bush/Cheney administration: FEMA, Justice, ad nauseum. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
Mario: ROTFLMAO! Twice! He forgot Condi! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong!_Click here: YouTube - But I Could Be Wrong_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-5d5IfdYK4) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
Guess what Werner...I live a block away from the park. What makes that park any less significant then the things you care about? I have to look at it every single day. It is a beautiful park, worthy of preservation. In fact, it's in much better condition then most of the places you have been fighting for, which I completely respect you for. The social dynamics you mention should be the NUMBER ONE issue that this city is dealing with. All the redevelopment in the world won't make a difference until that changes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. ... == The Fountain was chosen because it was a safe project. While I was advocating for preservation of Historic Sites in the redevelopment area the APHS was busy spending over $30K (yes Thousand) on the fountain and park. It was not in a redevelopment area, would not be a controversial issue and would not be flagged as anti-development. I always said it was premature considering the social dynamics of the area and predicted that it would be destroyed. Over $30K that could have been spent on a lawsuit or injunction to prevent the destruction of Nationally significant historic sites and make this a better redevelopment plan. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess what Werner...I live a block away from the park. What makes that park any less significant then the things you care about? I have to look at it every single day. It is a beautiful park, worthy of preservation. In fact, it's in much better condition then most of the places you have been fighting for, which I completely respect you for. The social dynamics you mention should be the NUMBER ONE issue that this city is dealing with. All the redevelopment in the world won't make a difference until that changes. = Your making a gross and incorrect assumption .. I made no comment indicating the park was not significant... I wrote that the project was premature considering the social dynamics of the area. Which is exactly the same issue you are addressing. Don't insult me by asserting that I only care about parts' of Asbury Park. In the context of the entire City, if National and State historic sites are of no concern to the administration what makes you think a local park is of concern. It ALL matters. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:18:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far what I've seen is the emergence of two languages that do not look like they have any plans to become one. Once again, I agree. Makes me somewhat uncomfortable, as do the burkas one sees more and more. I hope we don't get as nuts about this as the Quebecois and the Anglo Quebecers during the 1970s. I think that's all quieted down now. Not sure though. That's what I think is funny. You hear some people saying how Canada does so well with two languages (although I think they've made both languages official) but the Francophones still start movements to succeed every few years. Things aren't as pleasant between the two worlds there as some would like you to believe. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] bloomberg
On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:46 AM, oakdorf wrote: why not? Comments. I've been hoping he would run. As a registered Independent, he has my vote if he runs. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
I'm sorry if I upset you. I apologize. I'm just still feeling upset by this mornings events. I just hope that somehow, somebody will be able to turn this city around. All the $ and work that is going into redevelopment means nothing considering how people view our city. Yesterdays article in the APP about the most recent murder was accompanied by over 80 comments from people who were basically trashing the city and spewing some of the most vile racist remarks that i've seen in quite awhile. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Guess what Werner...I live a block away from the park. What makes that park any less significant then the things you care about? I have to look at it every single day. It is a beautiful park, worthy of preservation. In fact, it's in much better condition then most of the places you have been fighting for, which I completely respect you for. The social dynamics you mention should be the NUMBER ONE issue that this city is dealing with. All the redevelopment in the world won't make a difference until that changes. = Your making a gross and incorrect assumption .. I made no comment indicating the park was not significant... I wrote that the project was premature considering the social dynamics of the area. Which is exactly the same issue you are addressing. Don't insult me by asserting that I only care about parts' of Asbury Park. In the context of the entire City, if National and State historic sites are of no concern to the administration what makes you think a local park is of concern. It ALL matters. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
While I know the police have their hands full, what about asking COPS (citizens on patrol) to keep an eye on the area - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:05:08 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed Guess what Werner...I live a block away from the park. What makes that park any less significant then the things you care about? I have to look at it every single day. It is a beautiful park, worthy of preservation. In fact, it's in much better condition then most of the places you have been fighting for, which I completely respect you for. The social dynamics you mention should be the NUMBER ONE issue that this city is dealing with. All the redevelopment in the world won't make a difference until that changes. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. ... = = = = == The Fountain was chosen because it was a safe project. While I was advocating for preservation of Historic Sites in the redevelopment area the APHS was busy spending over $30K (yes Thousand) on the fountain and park. It was not in a redevelopment area, would not be a controversial issue and would not be flagged as anti-development. I always said it was premature considering the social dynamics of the area and predicted that it would be destroyed. Over $30K that could have been spent on a lawsuit or injunction to prevent the destruction of Nationally significant historic sites and make this a better redevelopment plan. Werner Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It ALL matters. === Hinge, Just to clarify, I thought you were concerned with the lack of response and oversight by the APHS...Leading you to your own efforts. I was commenting on the excessive amount of money spent. Perhaps a portion of which could have gone to video equipment as you suggest. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The little things matter
There are the remains of bicycle chained to a street sign on Main Street on the same block as The Saint. It's been sitting there for over a week now, and every few days, it looks like somebody has stolen another piece off of it. And everyday, the police, the mayor, and the town council probably drive past it. So do the people who pass thru our town. I am increasingly getting the impression that our cities administration is either too apathetic or too clueless to understand that the city will always be judged by it's appearence. Boarded up houses covered with graffiti are hurting us. Garbage everywhere is hurting us. Last night, I walked my dog on the boardwalk past two police officers at the same time when there were more bicyclists then pedestrians. While I love that somehow it's ok to walk my dog there even though the signs say otherwise, as well as my fellow bicyclists having a good time out on the boardwalk, it just makes me wonder if this isn't part of the deeper problem. Laws are written but not enforced. If AP were to crack down on the many quality of life crimes that plague our city maybe things would begin to change. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
You are correct. I did send a few emails to the APHS that still haven't been answered 2 weeks later. It always bugs me when an organization puts an email address on their website but doesn't answer their emails. I even volunteered to help with the park. Of course, I probably should've just picked up the telephone and called. The article in the Coaster shows that they are aware of the vandalism, and I know it must hurt them, but where are they when you need them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: It ALL matters. === Hinge, Just to clarify, I thought you were concerned with the lack of response and oversight by the APHS...Leading you to your own efforts. I was commenting on the excessive amount of money spent. Perhaps a portion of which could have gone to video equipment as you suggest. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette met with triCityNews Editorial Board
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure I understand your question marks then. Can you be more specific? Okay, it is an expression of amazement that you and DJ are now Clarence Darrows who have uncorked MM. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't even dignify this, with an answer! It was rich whites, who forced new Irish immigrants, to go to war and the Irish in turn, took their frustration out on New York Blacks, including Black children from an orphanage! Are you proud, that the Irish lynched us, as you say? I wouldn't brag on this, if I were you. Your slip, is showing! Again! Sharon I think you missed the nuance of what I was saying. Read it again. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Two teens rescue woman from rip tide in Asbury Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/19/07 BY COLEEN DEE BERRY Post Comment ASBURY PARK Two teens rescued a woman from a rip current off the Fourth Avenue beach this afternoon. I was there and ran down to assist. These bozos could not swim and went out into the water. Bystanders ran into the water and climbed down from the jetty. That big chubby cop on the boardwalk got his exercise. I usually think that he is a food inspector the way he sits at Art's Ices or the new Casa Di Formaggi. BTW, dogs and bikes on the bw right in front of cops. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] The little things matter
What is needed is an unannounced occasional police sweep on the boardwalk issuing summonses to those breaking the law. Just like they listed the names of the 18 Johns, they should also list the names of the boardwalk violators. Word will spread like wildfire and people just might begin to obey the laws. -Original Message- From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:49 am Subject: [AsburyPark] The little things matter There are the remains of bicycle chained to a street sign on Main Street on the same block as The Saint. It's been sitting there for over a week now, and every few days, it looks like somebody has stolen another piece off of it. And everyday, the police, the mayor, and the town council probably drive past it. So do the people who pass thru our town. I am increasingly getting the impression that our cities administration is either too apathetic or too clueless to understand that the city will always be judged by it's appearence. Boarded up houses covered with graffiti are hurting us. Garbage everywhere is hurting us. Last night, I walked my dog on the boardwalk past two police officers at the same time when there were more bicyclists then pedestrians. While I love that somehow it's ok to walk my dog there even though the signs say otherwise, as well as my fellow bicyclists having a good time out on the boardwalk, it just makes me wonder if this isn't part of the deeper problem. Laws are written but not enforced. If AP were to crack down on the many quality of life crimes that plague our city maybe things would begin to change. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: Two teens rescue woman from rip tide in Asbury Park
H, I walked my dog past that same chubby cop last night, and it made me wonder why the APPD allows an out of shape officer to be on patrol --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/19/07 BY COLEEN DEE BERRY Post Comment ASBURY PARK Two teens rescued a woman from a rip current off the Fourth Avenue beach this afternoon. I was there and ran down to assist. These bozos could not swim and went out into the water. Bystanders ran into the water and climbed down from the jetty. That big chubby cop on the boardwalk got his exercise. I usually think that he is a food inspector the way he sits at Art's Ices or the new Casa Di Formaggi. BTW, dogs and bikes on the bw right in front of cops. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] I Think Many of the Main Posters on this Site Would be Better Council Members
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, who will be running for the next elections in our city who might make a difference. I do feel that Keady and maybe Johnson should stay. However, to sucussfully beat any opposition, someone has to start up a committeee to raise money and develop the grassroots. If a Keady ticket is in the works, others should be recruited and the Friends of Asbury Park Committee (this was/is the Keady/Koperweis/Schneider ticket official name) should and can continue on. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Two teens rescue woman from rip tide in Asbury Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H, I walked my dog past that same chubby cop last night, and it made me wonder why the APPD allows an out of shape officer to be on patrol He seems like a nice guy and he did run to do his job, so I should not be on him. However, I think the police should be actively patrolling the boardwalk up and down, not standing/sitting in one spot. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Think Many of the Main Posters on this Site Would be Better Council Member
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do feel that Keady and maybe Johnson should stay. However, to sucussfully beat any opposition, someone has to start up a committeee to raise money and develop the grassroots. If a Keady ticket is in the works, others should be recruited and the Friends of Asbury Park Committee (this was/is the Keady/Koperweis/Schneider ticket official name) should and can continue on. I doubt the future boys can be dislodged. The maintain the status quo and many (that vote) have a stake in that. Add to that that many believed they were doing a good job when nothing was actually happening and now something actually is (may be). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain alr...
In a message dated 6/20/2007 10:03:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think that there are actually people out there who even want to take real charge of this city and are qualified to do so? What evr happed to Neighborhood Watch groups here? Or Citizens on Patrol driving around? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: Bloomberg
I hope some others decide to run. So far none of the above. I want an independant though. Parties are on the way out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain alr...
In a message dated 6/20/2007 9:51:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if there's anything that can be learned from NYC's efforts a decade ago it is that focusing on quality of life crime with zero tolerance is the best way to reduce the more serious crimes. I, like many others, witnessed that transformation in NYC in the 90s. And was impressed with Guiliani on that front at least. I also remember some crying, foul fascists tactics at the time. But I also saw the no broken windows philosophy work very close to me. My school district started to experience some problems with graffiti and littering around the building. I saw one of the culprits in action one day emptying his locker garbage onto the hallway floor and leaving it there. I asked him to pick up after himself. Spoiled white kid of professional parents replied that's was why we hire janitors. I insisted, so scowling white boy picks up his stuff. Soon after, we got a new superintendent who required that maintenance staff remove all signs of new graffiti overnight and repair any vandalism soon after it was discovered. If student was caught, he or his parents were fined. Also, each time halls emptied after change of classes, maintenance people immediately moved through every hallway and swept/mopped all litter away so that at next bell students saw halls clean again. (Floors also shined from some chemical they use in the mops.) Within months, our building was basically free of litter. Students followed the model and cleaned up after themselves without intimidating gestapo tactics. In my book of anecdotes, zero-tolerance works. Consistent modeling works (along with judicious use of strongly worded warnings and fines.) I can't prove this, but I also noticed a nice improvement in overall attitude among the students. Pride in their surroundings. Sounds Pollyannaish, or Leave it to Beaver-ish, butI I saw the theory in practice. Oh yeah, one more thing. Supervisors insisted that teachers stand outside their classrooms between periods. High visibility worked too. A liberal for zero tolerance ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
On the other hand, much of Europe is already multi-lingual, n'est-ce pas? More critical than English only IMO: Our country better get more serious about real teaching of math and science. Asians are heavily focused on those areas. If we lose our technological edge (if not already), it won't matter if we all start speaking pig-Latin! In a message dated 6/20/2007 10:33:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:18:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far what I've seen is the emergence of two languages that do not look like they have any plans to become one. Once again, I agree. Makes me somewhat uncomfortable, as do the burkas one sees more and more. I hope we don't get as nuts about this as the Quebecois and the Anglo Quebecers during the 1970s. I think that's all quieted down now. Not sure though. That's what I think is funny. You hear some people saying how Canada does so well with two languages (although I think they've made both languages official) but the Francophones still start movements to succeed every few years. Things aren't as pleasant between the two worlds there as some would like you to believe. Yahoo! Groups Links ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Hinge - Bike Boxes
For you Jack http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/06/19/new-bike-boxes-send-cyclists-to-the-front-of-the-line/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] bloomberg
In a message dated 6/20/2007 10:33:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:46 AM, oakdorf wrote: why not? Comments. I've been hoping he would run. As a registered Independent, he has my vote if he runs. I already heard (yes on C-Span, Washington Journal at 7) this morning that some of our informed citizens won't vote for a Jew, a Zionist, a pro-Israel guy. Some more informed pundits claim that he's not great making inspiring speeches, and he is uncomfortable with the process of electioneering. Also, one guy claimed he didn't have enough experience. (Duh! Texas has one of the least burdening governorships in the Union; lieutenant governor by law has most of the responsibility for day-to-day stuff.) And who could be less qualified than that guy who partied till he was forty and ran businesses into the ground?) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain alr...
In a message dated 6/20/2007 10:41:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I know the police have their hands full, what about asking COPS (citizens on patrol) to keep an eye on the area triCity, get on it! ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
Mario: Don't remember that exchange from Network, but I saw the piece on Chris I'm in love with myself Matthews! He is a definite DEM, hater! Loves to carp on them and put them down! Must be because the Republicans have slipped to a new low, in the polls! To all Republicans out there, I can't stand the Democrats, either! Not because I am one, but, because they are as sleazy, as any other politician! I'm not fooled one bit, by their self-righteous stance, against other politicians. They're ALL in bed, with each other, would sell out their mothers, for a nickle and have no solutions, to the many problems, this Nation, faces, so please, no flames! I hate them ALL! We need a third party, for those of us, who want change; real change, where a job, health care and a free education, is given to all, LEGAL citizens! Isn't that what the Constitution USED to promise? Give us your tired, your poor,.. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/20/2007 6:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but fear the country is so polarized by absolutists ... The immigration debate is a great (or bad) illustration of exactly that...In a country who's entire system was built on compromise it seems that compromise has become a four-letter word. To me, that's scary. Lots of scary shitake out there. 2000 years ago the Romans were suckered and distracted by bread and circuses. Orwell's 20th century version works too. War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength (bliss). (and keep 'em distracted by lotteries, shortages, pornography, and sensationalized media.). Distractions. More crawlers, more booming base sound effects touting Wolfe's latest just in, stay tuned. More chocolate Jesuses; red blue states, red alerts, if it bleeds it leads Keep 'em distracted and the 2% Inner Party will always thrive. Network redux: _Click here: Network (1976) - Memorable quotes_ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/quotes) And so it goes Unless more audiences like this act up: (YouTube segment) _Click here: Audience Heckles Matthews During Clinton Interview - Politics on The Huffington Post_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/06/19/audience-heckles-matthews_n_52875.html) Bravo! Soma, anyone? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: bloomberg
Oh God, NO! I find him a whiny, my way or the highway, I'll stomp my foot, if I don't get my way, type! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First we need to clone him and make him the mayor of Asbury Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: why not? Comments. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] I Think Many of the Main Posters on this Site Would be Bette...
In a message dated 6/20/2007 11:38:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a Keady ticket is in the works, others should be recruited No support from me unless he backs off support for JSRM.. I have tons of research indicating that those who grilled JSRM's David Scott did not do their homework. No evidence that that organization will be to the greater city's benefit. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
Maybe it was rawdogalways --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This town has some sad, sick, mean-spirited, evil people, here, or someone OUT there, reads this thread and are determined, to keep us miserable and hopeless. Email me off-thread, to see if there's anything I can do to help. I can't help but cry, because I really want to go after this sleaze-ball, who lurks here, won't identify him/herself, etc. A lightening strike, would be too good! God Bless you for your efforts. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Well, they lasted 2 days. It really makes me sick to think that I spent my own money and time to try and beautify the fountain a little so it doesn't look forgotten and continues to be a dumping ground for people. I now understand how the APHS must feel after they spent so much time and money on the same effort What a waste of my time. This morning, while driving by the park, I noticed that parts of the flowers that I placed there were scattered all over the fountain. I parked and went to take a look. The containers for the flowers were lying in the just cleaned up fountain. Petals everywhere, including many yards away on the path. It looks like somebody trashed them, then somebody else replaced the carcasses of the plants back in the urns. Oh, and somebody left a nice Coors Lite big assed beer can behind as a nice FU. Remember the commercial in the 70's with the Indian who had a tear running down his face because of all the litter? That was me this morning. One has to wonder what the hell our cities administration is doing when they know that this park is frequented every single night by drunks, drug dealers and prostitutes. The lighting is scarce, the police presence is zero. The cameras that everybody agrees would make a difference are nowhere to be seen. I wonder how many years it's going to take until that happens? And yes, I know there are more pressing problems to attend to, like the multiple shootings and 2 murders in the past couple of weeks. But when is somebody who we elected to run this city going to step up and make a difference? In my optimistic little world, i'd like to see the park fenced in, and it's care taken over by the people who love it and want to preserve it. We'd all have keys to get in. Cameras everywhere. Just like a beautiful park next to my favorite hotel in London. When you check in, you get a key to the park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Obama
Obama's worth watching and serious consideration this early. A uniter, with Smartz. Can make an unscripted speech with no bromides; you can almost see him thinking on his feet; attracts crossover voters hungering for leadership. Charisma as needed for a media.age. Fewest negatives among the lot as far I can tell. Just MHO - NRN In a message dated 6/20/2007 9:39:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First we need to clone him and make him the mayor of Asbury Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not? Comments. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: bloomberg
and he is uncomfortable with the process of electioneering. He once siad something to the effect that his job is not ot be on the news or front on the front page. His job, like his other job is to have thr right people in the right place doing their job. Something like that. Like when my boss once told me, your job is to keep your desk clean, ...you should have those under you that are qualified to do the job.. So as a taxpayer, you should have those in office and administration tht have the capability to run a complex city such as asbury park. Take 1 square mile: - the whole east side should be (east of main) should be left to run itself, other then keeping tabs on the redevelopment. That's where the REdvelopment office/economic development team comes in. On the West side (West of main): - North of 3rd Ave - not much to do - Asbury Ave to 3rd Ave - some work to do - Asbury Ave to Springwood - then divide this up: Bangs to springwood, Bangs to Asbury Ave and breakdown one or 2 more. - Each councilman gets a responsibility of a quadrant and gets a team together - code enforecment,police, fire dept, building, social services, economic development, tax assesor and quality of life. THEN, like the Mexican plan for paying for education, each council member and their team could share in a bonus paid to themthe team for imoprovements to their assigned quadrant: - The team receives money for improvements in: - education of those in their area - increased tax collections - increase in fees for violations - quality of life bonus points - new or improvements in services and business services It's a small city. Time to play the game and be accountable. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] To Dubai
Keep on watching what is happening there. If only it were here asburyland... If only I can get my passport. Going on 4 months, expedited. Easier to get here illegally then to leave as a legal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
Hinge - Maybe putting some sort of sticker near by, saying, this area is monitors. It doesn't have to be, but maybe the sticker alone would make whoever is doing this think twice. You know, then the idea is in their head that they may be being watched! They then would know their identiy would be tapped. They wouldnt know about the sticker untill they got to the site, and by then, it would be too late to hide their face, givien the fact they have no idea where the camera is located. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
Re: [AsburyPark] I Think Many of the Main Posters on this Site Would be Bette...
If you think there is trouble in liberty park now. Think about what would happen if that shelter is bringing in all those people and letting them out for the day. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:04:54 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] I Think Many of the Main Posters on this Site Would be Bette... In a message dated 6/20/2007 11:38:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com writes: If a Keady ticket is in the works, others should be recruited No support from me unless he backs off support for JSRM.. I have tons of research indicating that those who grilled JSRM's David Scott did not do their homework. No evidence that that organization will be to the greater city's benefit. See what's free at AOL.com. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain already destroyed
Unfortunately, since the fountain was vandalized it's very dark near it now that the 3 lights on top of it are no longer working, so there is no light there for anybody to read by. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hinge - Maybe putting some sort of sticker near by, saying, this area is monitors. It doesn't have to be, but maybe the sticker alone would make whoever is doing this think twice. You know, then the idea is in their head that they may be being watched! They then would know their identiy would be tapped. They wouldnt know about the sticker untill they got to the site, and by then, it would be too late to hide their face, givien the fact they have no idea where the camera is located. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Use green money be earth friendly
Use new dollar coins instead of paper dollar bills The life cycle of the new dollar coin is 30 years compared to the paper dollar which is 1.5 years . . . “The paper note is made from 75% virgin cotton 25% linen blend of paper, and industrial oil based ink which is used to produce the coloring on the paper. A metal plate is used to imprint the design on the note. Only non-recycled cotton and linen are used in the printing of the paper note. The paper dollar is bleached and shredded after circulation and only 10% is recycled. The other 90% is placed in landfills. The coin dollar allows for a complete recycle of the metal used to manufacture the coin, including the final coin when it comes out of circulation and all metal waste from the process itself.” The government could save more than $500 million yearly if the public embraces the new gold-colored dollar. Do something to help the environment - Go to your bank an ask for dollar coins and use them in every day life. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Bloomberg video
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/channel-08/?hpid=topnews There's a hour long talk with Bloomberg online. After watching it, I continue to believe that he's the guy who should run. He just breaks things down to simple problems and gets things done. After being a Democrat for nearly all of his life and a Republican for the last 8 years or so, he's now officially an independent. It's the perfect place to be. Why be beholden to party politics and be forced to support policies you don't agree with? I'll never understand why Americans want politics to be like sports with one side having to be better than the other. If anyone believes 100% of their party platform something is wrong, imo. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: bloomberg
In a message dated 6/20/2007 12:53:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and he is uncomfortable with the process of electioneering. He once siad something to the effect that his job is not ot be on the news or front on the front page. His job, like his other job is to have thr right people in the right place doing their job. Something like that. Commendable. I like him. But my point is that our screwed up election process might do him in. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain alr...
Reminds me of the deplorable condition of Central Park during the 1970's -- vandalized monuments etc It took a very wealthy group of people living on Central Park West (and Mayor Koch) to get it cleaned up. See Wiki and _http://www.centralparknyc.org/_ (http://www.centralparknyc.org/) for history anf how they turned it into a major centerpiece of NYC life. In a message dated 6/20/2007 1:44:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, since the fountain was vandalized it's very dark near it now that the 3 lights on top of it are no longer working, so there is no light there for anybody to read by. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hinge - Maybe putting some sort of sticker near by, saying, this area is monitors. It doesn't have to be, but maybe the sticker alone would make whoever is doing this think twice. You know, then the idea ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain alr...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of the deplorable condition of Central Park during the 1970's -- They also need some green space on the West Side. With grass. With cameras. And police presence. Which council member wants responsibility? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The flowers I placed at Library Square Park fountain alr...
Don't hold your breath... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Reminds me of the deplorable condition of Central Park during the 1970's -- They also need some green space on the West Side. With grass. With cameras. And police presence. Which council member wants responsibility? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] what happend at the springwood meeting?
for the redevelopment? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Monmouth Immigration
Kim Guadagno - Tough on Illegal Immigration By Eric Sedler | June 20, 2007 Today, Monmouth County Sheriff Candidate Kim Guadagno called for implementing a tough policy that would ensure safer communities by checking the immigration status of anyone already incarcerated in the Monmouth County Jail before the inmate is released. Guadagno, the Republican candidate for Monmouth County Sheriff, was a fromer state and federal prosecutor. She announced that if elected she would require corrections officers to implement provisions of the federal program known as 287(g) of the ¡°Immigration Reform Act of 1996¡å. Under this program corrections officers working with federal authorities gain necessary resources and authority to immediately determine the immigration status of an inmate. Considering the events that happened with the plot against Fort Dix, this makes complete sense and sounds like a great plan. ¡°It¡¯s time get serious about protecting the families and residents of Monmouth County,¡± said Sheriff Candidate Guadagno. ¡°The implementation of this program in the Sheriffs Office will greatly increase protection of Monmouth County families from potential terrorists like the Fort Dix six.¡± ¡°A majority of those involved in the Fort Dix case had frequent run-ins with the law. Had this program been in place, the Duka brothers may have been transferred to federal custody ¨Cor even deported¨C well before the Fort Dix plot evolved,¡± said Guadagno. She continued, ¡°Because an inmate¡¯s immigration status is immediately checked under through this program, potential terrorists like the Fort Dix Six immediately come to the attention of federal authorities. Thus, the residents of Monmouth County are protected.¡± ¡°This is a program the Monmouth County Sheriff¡¯s Office will implement when I am Sheriff. Potential terrorists like the Fort Dix Six who are unlawfully in the U.S. will immediately be brought to the attention of federal authorities. As a bonus to the taxpayers, because the already incarcerated convict will become a federal inmate, Monmouth County will be relieved of the cost of feeding and housing that criminal.¡± If elected, Ms. Guadagno would make Monmouth County Sheriff¡¯s office would become the first county in New Jersey to implement the 287g program for its correctional officers. The 287g program has been adopted in a number of states with successful results. In Alabama, the program enabled troopers to identify and convict 27 individuals who were using fraudulent documents in an attempt to obtain driver¡¯s licenses. Thirteen were convicted of state charges, including narcotics violations and possession of forged instruments. The program even uncovered a registered sex offender, who was subsequently deported. Sounds like a great idea. Definately good to see a Sheriff Candidate taking the initiative to combat a problem locally. In other news, we have added the newly created Monmouth County Republican Committee Group on our list of Facebook Groups. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] belmar411.com website
An interesting commentary on the belmar411.com website. The idea is to target via the web, problem houses/landlords. The Belmar Rental 411.com Web site does nothing but further prove that Belmar is using public funds to contribute to a pattern of segregation between homeowners and landlords who rent their homes to summer renters. It amazes me that Belmar, which in 2001 was fined $14,000 in New Jersey Superior Court for violating the federal Fair Housing Act, continues to push the envelope with its Rental 411.com Web site hosted on our municipal Web site using taxpayer dollars. Attorneys general throughout the United States have been fighting housing segregation for years, but it is now OK for a public entity to violate property owners' civil rights. If you're only a landlord/taxpayer and rent your home out in the summer, you're now added to a special Belmar Web site list. All the other property owners in Belmar won't make it. The Web site allows anyone to zoom in on a satellite picture of the borough's 320 summer rental homes to a street-level view of selected homes. Those viewing the site can click on the selected homes earmarked with a color and a window opens up displaying: the property owner's name, property location, number of noise violations, picture of the landlord's property and amount of bond that has been posted due to violations. Some pictures are of the homeowner's garbage cans, etc. The Rental 411 Web site is reminiscent of how Hitler's Germany would most likely have segregated its population using today's technology. The site further assigns the rentals into colors and characterizations: the cop with the night stick (very bad), red (bad), yellow (close to bad) and blue ( good). Absent from the Rental 411 Web site are things that people in Belmar would really like to see. Maybe orange could be used to flag the properties where drugs have been found or where a recent arrest was made. Black could flag a list of properties where sex offenders are living, and gray a list of wife beaters' homes. Maybe a passport image could be placed over the homes where illegal immigrants are known to be living, since they tax the schools with their children. Purple could flag the restaurants where the Board of Health found violations. Brown could flag properties of year-round homeowners who rake their leaves in the street. Bright green could flag the public officials' homes, who are paid high salaries to think of Web sites such as this one. A beer bottle character with a rose could be used to flag all the bars in town that have been given sweet deals instead of closure. Foreign flags could be set up to identify the Irish, Italians and every other nationality. Maybe a new deadbeat character could be designed to designate the homes and property owners who owe the town back taxes, water bills or are deadbeat dads. Where will it end? Once a pattern of segregation is supported by your local government, you and every citizen of the United States are the ones who are impacted and at risk. It's only time before you make the next list of segregation. Lastly, just how new is the information on the Rental 411's site? I was astonished to see the home of a friend, Robert Sullivan, a veteran Jersey City police officer, on the red or bad list. Especially, since he has not rented his home in more than two years and died in the spring of 2006. Not only is segregation going on in Belmar, but there is a lack of respect for its citizens who have met the supreme commander after years of public service. Kevin J. Devine BELMAR Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: belmar411.com website
That website does not exist or is out of service perhaps? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Monmouth Immigration
In a message dated 6/20/2007 6:34:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim Guadagno - Tough on Illegal ImmigrationBy Eric Sedler | June 20, 2007 Today, Monmouth County Sheriff Candidate Kim Guadagno called for implementing a tough policy that would ensure safer communities by checking the immigration status of anyone already incarcerated in the Monmouth County Jail before the inmate is released. Such stories always leave me wondering where is the emphasis on another major cause of the problem: the people, companies, corporations, et al. who employ undocumented workers? Back in the 80's, I applied to be director of a summer program at Monmouth College. Even though I personally knew many on the staff there, I was required to dig up all sorts of documentation to prove I was a U.S. citizen. No exceptions. At that time, I checked with people I knew who owned a local nursery garden center. They confirmed that they had to comply with strict requirements that everyone working there had to have proper documentation on him at all times. Immigration officials would stop by unannounced to check. At the same time, the owner of the business had high praise for the work ethic of the immigrant workers she employed. What prompted my asking her was that I overheard her on the phone with a close friend of hers who wanted her to hire her son as a favor. After that call, the business owner confided in me that she lied about having no openings because she preferred the immigrants (migrant workers?). What happened to those laws? And I'm not a nativist. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] I Think Many of the Main Posters on this Site Would be Better..
I'll take any cue to reiterate my views research conclusions on JSRM. Much of that compiled here: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25733_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25733) (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25733) I also sent McLaughlin and Keady emails challenging them to explain their support for that mission in light of the many objections being raised. Neither responded. So the accuracy of my findings remains unchallenged. Looks like the tax-exempts of all stripes are more prone to gather their wagons 'round rather than face scrutiny. How ecumenical of them; however, I don't think that's what John XXIII meant by the term. === In a message dated 6/20/2007 1:43:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you think there is trouble in liberty park now. Think about what would happen if that shelter is bringing in all those people and letting them out for the day. If a Keady ticket is in the works, others should be recruited No support from me unless he backs off support for JSRM.. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] paramount entrace and walkway
The new short lights in the half round shape near the Parmount entrance look nice. i suspected they were coming a few weeks ago from the size of electrical bases they had. Looks good. There are still 2 mystery light bases on each side of the walkway. I can't figure out what they will be, maybe something different that takes longer to arrive. It's pretty amazing what that area has become, and what it has gone from. When you talk about land use, this is land use at it's best. I enjoy what's there now a lot more then what was there before. Before the grassy area may have looked nice, but think how much more usefull this new layout is. It's not full of concrete either. Theres lot of green and relaxing looknig plants too. Theres also a lot of space for outdoor music and other outdoor events. Also, take notice how many crowds of people walk from Ocean Ave to the boardwalk. This wasnt even thinkable in the previous desgin. Side by side on the one small sidewalk is how it was! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
