[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Questions on my setup
PhilNYC;158220 Wrote: I thought setting the analog output to 63 was the equivalent of muting it...? You're probably right. MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio quality of Transporter Re the Sonos
Hi folks, I was just asked about the audio quality of the Sonos system relative to the Transporter. My answer was that from the little I can see on the Sonos web site the Transporter seems to have made a stronger effort for audiophile sound. On my part it is mostly a guess. I have not listened to the Sonos. If anyone has any actual listening or better understanding of their specs I would appreciate your opinions. By the way they sure have a nice remote. -- atbhat atbhat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5471 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30128 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice. Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that one was more than twice as expensive :-) -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker terminal contact cleaner
Currently I've got my speakers hooked up with unterminated 10-gauge 5T00UP (from Blue Jeans: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm). I was too lazy to put on bananas and figured unterminated might give a better contact anyway. Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to keep the contact points, both on speaker and amp side, clean and unoxidated? Or can I just schpritz it with some trusty old wd40? If you have some suggestion, could you tell me where you got it, or where I can get it in the USA (if you know, of course) please? Thanks, jan PS. Don't disappoint me P Floding! ;-) -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
jmourik;158294 Wrote: I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice. Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that one was more than twice as expensive :-) Congratulations. Welcome to the Rotel club. Just a few questions. Are you using the Denon as a pre-amp? Should be interesting to compare that to the Rotel RC-1070 pre-amp. Have you decided on the SB3 or transporter yet? -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
jmourik;158296 Wrote: Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to keep the contact points, both on speaker and amp side, clean and unoxidated? Or can I just schpritz it with some trusty old wd40? I use Caig Deoxit, which is American. They do a 'technician's survival kit' which includes all you need - easily available. You might also like to try a contact enhancer, such as Walker's. WD40 is likely to be an insulator, so probably not the plan ;) http://www.tweekgeek.com and don't spend too much... Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
jmourik;158294 Wrote: I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice. Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that one was more than twice as expensive :-) One of the problems of revealing speakers is that they really do respond to the $$$ that you spend further up the chain... Welcome to audiophilia :) I would recommend that you get something considerably better than a stock SB3 for that system - you'll need to mod and/or DAC it, or get a Transporter. Have fun! Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
jmourik;158296 Wrote: I was too lazy to put on bananas and figured unterminated might give a better contact anyway. Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to keep the contact points, both on speaker and amp side, clean and unoxidated? Or can I just schpritz it with some trusty old wd40? I'd recommend against WD-40 - oil isn't generally a very good conductor, so while it may help remove some oxidation from the wires it may also leave a non-conductive film behind that actually makes things worse. I'd go with a product intended for electrical contact cleaning (there are many). -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Questions on my setup
I have the SB3 digital volume on MUTE. But when I disable the Benchmark volume via the switch on the back, I get no sound at all out of speakers. So I have to use the Variable setting on the Benchmark, turn the Benchmark vol. all the way up, then use the vol. control on my Ayre integrated amp. I don't know if this is ideal but I can't seem to disable the Benchmark vol. control without losing all sound. ARe there two volume settings on the SB3? Last night as I was cycling through my set-up on the SB3 again, I noticed another volume option and that one was turned all the way up. Was that the analog volume? The digital volume still says MUTE. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
atkinsonrr;158261 Wrote: I would hope that modders could show some empirical, instrumented, improvements. Perhaps there are some modders out there doing that, but I (in my limited experience with the modding community) have not seen it. On the other hand, I wouldnt claim a modder is full of BS simply because all he could say is he performed listening tests and found his mods sounded better. I would take that as information, even if not very compelling information. It would be more compelling if he could substantiate it was done independently, with a variety of equipment, a variety of listeners, there was some control for bias, listening was done over an extended period of time, etc. Of course, most compelling would be if said modder could report results of empirical listening tests. Having a social and not physical science background I believe there is a way to make non-instrumented testing empirical as well. Unfortunately, I dont think we have found it yet. It's especially not compelling when the modder in question uses such things as Bybee filters. There is an easy, empirical, non-intrumented way to do a test - simply do a blind listening test. It's free, fast, and (if done properly) just as reliable and convincing as using a scope. I've never (again, my experience is limited) heard of a modder doing such a test to prove his mod actually makes an improvement. The test should first demonstrate that there is a difference and then - *still blind* - ask which source the listeners prefer. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
jhm731;158250 Wrote: KimR said the Transporter doesn't sound any better than his SB3 off the digital outputs. Actually, what I said was that I couldn't tell the difference between the Transporter digital out and the SB3 WHEN running the SB3 through the $1500 Apogee Big Ben digital processor. This is comparing $1800 worth of stuff (SB3 + BB) to $1700 worth of stuff (Transporter less the free SB3). The Transporter has more controls, displays, and functionality, plus a DAC. Guess what you should buy if you don't alrady have an Apogee Big Ben? The Transporter digital out sounded easily better than the stand-alone SB3 digital out (thanks, Sean). Regards, Kim -- krochat -- SB3 (+linear) - Big Ben - TacT RCS 2.2X - 2xS2150 - Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT W210 krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Questions on my setup
sc53;158316 Wrote: I have the SB3 digital volume on MUTE. Digital volume on the SB3 should be set to FIXED, not MUTE. -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Questions on my setup
sc53;158055 Wrote: I'm going for great sound out of my SB3 so thought I'd ask the experts... In Player Settings|Audio there is a digital volume control, and preamp volume control. Preamp volume control only affects the analog output, so setting it to 63 (dB attenuation) will mute the internal DAC. The digital volume control is the dropdown where you can select fixed or variable output. I use mine with an external DAC on variable, and for critical listening just turn the volume to max which is essentially the same as using the fixed output setting. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
Cutting and restripping would be the most effective, as it's stranded wire. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Room Correction Hope for Mac?
This can replace BruteFIR and work under Mac http://convolver.sourceforge.net/vst.html -- ackcheng ackcheng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29705 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Room Correction Hope for Mac?
you can also get more info here www.acourate.com -- ackcheng ackcheng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29705 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
I've just spoken to someone from Rayleigh Hi-Fi and we're going this Friday. :) They don't tend to deal with Rotel anymore - apparently, although the equipment was good, their customer service was terrible, and customers were left waiting for items. They like the Arcam A70 amplifier a lot at the moment - more than I was intending to spend at £500, but we'll have a listen anyway. Regarding speakers, he mentioned Rega (R1 I presume from a little Googling), Arcam Alto and Rega (some of which are, again, over our budget, but hey... I can always say 'no'. Right?). Thanks for your help so far - will bear it all in mind when visiting the shop. -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mini SB3 system idea
Pale Blue Ego;158188 Wrote: EDIT: looks like C Crane is out of stock until Dec-12. Audio Advisor has them though, same price. PBE - Thanks for the pointers! -- Bob Bressler Bob Bob Bressler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2217 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30087 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
I've spent almost a week now with the BolderSB2?PS Let me call it the B2 for short,OK? I am very impressed with what Wayne has done with what was originally a 300.00 SB2. Although the cost of this set up matches or exceeds the cost of the TP. I hooked up the B2 into input 2 and set that input to invert phase per Wayne's instructions. I used a spl to match sound levels. I spent a day listeninng only to the B2 to do brain burn in OK, to familiarize myself to it's sound. BTW if anyone flames me over this comparison I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!! :-) I also know what you did last summer. The B2 sounds great, I think it's a significant improvement over the stock SB3. The second day I did some informal blind switching. eg. had a friend switch back and forth on the pre. I think I would likely not do well on an ABX. The differences are quite subtle to my ear. In sighted comparisons I would listen to piece long enough to :memorize the sound and then listen to the other unit. I want to stress that tis comparison is completely subjective and I did what I would normally do to decide on a component purchase. Some times a difference s so great it's easy to make a decision. That's not the case here, for me. Finally I made myself listen to one unit only until I needed to switch. I did this several time to see which unit I subconsciously chose and stayed with longer The differences I hear in sighted longer term listening between the B2 and TP are: Soundstage: no difference, both throw a wide and deep ss Imaging : both are great I would fail an ABX on those 2. I think the B2 is a bit more laid back. It has less rythmic punch and the bass is a bit less well articulated to my ears. But these differences are VERY subtle Both are excellent at capturing note decay and hall ambience. I had 2 fears in doing this comparison: 1 tat the bolder would not stack up and I would have to offend a lot of people. 2 the bolder would blow away the TP and I would have to buy one. Neither of these fears materialized. If i had the Bolder I would be very happy I am also very happy with the TP. I the end I found myself listening more to the TP. It has more of what I want to hear. But the 2 are SO close I could not say the TP is superior. Someone else might easily prefer the Bolder. I would love to audition a Bolder modded Tp. If Wayne can improve an SB so much it would be interesting to hear what he does with the TP. My problem is that for me , the TP is so good I that would have to hear a modded TP before I would want it done to mine. I want to reiterate that I could easily see how someone could prefer either unit. They are both so good that we enter the realm of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin I am sorry to sound like a pansy ass stereophile reviewer :-) But this is my honest opinion/ . If I thought one was significantly better than the other I would say so. I have watt/puppies/jeff rowland electronics, 2 dedicated 10 guage lines, chang light speed, asc tube traps , room tunes on top, 8th nerve adapt triangles, response seams, custom designed O brandy, Spanish riojas, priorats, penedes and cali cabs , pinots, chards, full bown linn, graham tone arm SF tube phono preamp, chassagne montrachet, chateau margaux, 14 year old lexus(who can afford a new car after Watts), dadario strings, Fredholm guitars and other ABSOLUTELY necessary accessories for listening :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
ceejay;157914 Wrote: I think this thread may have just broken the record for longest thread without any disagreement on this forum... ;) To inject the mandatory daily ration of disagreement, I quote Monty Python: No you didn't. Yes I did. No you didn't. Yes I did. This isn't an argument. Yes it is. No it isn't. It's just a contradiction. No it isn't... -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
I second the motion for Caig Deoxit. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
You are write -- my post was poorly worded. I apologize for that. atkinsonrr;158254 Wrote: I appreciate your input here, as I think it may be coming from concern, thinking there was something that he hadnt considered but should probably consider before making a big financial decision. But the above quote sounds like you feel he owes you (or any of us for that matter) a justificaton of why he wants to spend his own money, and that he must explain it in using only THD or jitter specs or someting? I really dont think this is a reasonable request. He's already said that he is doing it based on the track record of his own experience with the modded SB. So, one could say he is doing it out of trust in Boulder Mods. You might argue his trust is misplaced, but I would bet he believes his trust is justified by his own experience. Shouldnt his own experience be the final arbiter? At this point you might say that he was fooled by psycho-acoutic or simply psychological factors. In other words sometimes your own experience can lie. I agree with that. But if he's like most of us (incredibly intelligent!!) people who habit this forum, I again would bet that he did some kind of A-B testing. Is the A-B testing up to a standard that we would all accept? Maybe not. Its obvious you have real passion for finding the truth in audio. But, I dont think you are gonna persuade or change his mind by demanding that he provide all the justification you are demanding. But if we could put some of our collective passion into developing a listening testing scheme that we could all endorse. Now THAT would be worth the energy! -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
This is by way of opening up a thread for personal introductions. Some of us discussed as a fun method to get to know each other on a more personal level and hopefully, to defuse some of the knee-jerk reactions: The rules so far: 1. You post about your music experience, your audio experience, what drives you in this hobby, what brings you to Slim Devices, etc. 2. You post about your current, past, and future (hopefully!) rigs. Discuss your room, speaker placement, cables, whatever. 3. Say something about your audio philosophy. For example, do you believe in blind testing or not? Why? 4. Say something about what brings you to the forum and what you hope to get out of it. 5. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
jmourik;158296 Wrote: Currently I've got my speakers hooked up with unterminated 10-gauge 5T00UP (from Blue Jeans: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm). I was too lazy to put on bananas and figured unterminated might give a better contact anyway. Is there some kind of contact cleaner I can use to keep the contact points, both on speaker and amp side, clean and unoxidated? Or can I just schpritz it with some trusty old wd40? If you have some suggestion, could you tell me where you got it, or where I can get it in the USA (if you know, of course) please? Thanks, jan PS. Don't disappoint me P Floding! ;-) As other people have said WD40 is not a good idea. It's a lubricant, not a solvent. I would just cut a couple inches off the cable and properly solder some connectors on. If you must clean it, the best cleaner you can use is electric contact cleaner. You can probably find some at a local hardware store, or an auto parts store. something like this: http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.ihtml?pid=349790step=5prodstoreid=4732 -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Onkyo DAC vs. SB3's DAC?
I'm not an audiophile, but I think this is the best place to find an answer to my question... I've been using my SB3 analog out to an 15-year-old Kenwood receiver and been happy with that. That receiver just died and I picked up an Onkyo TX-SR304 to replace it. I was considering using the coaxial digital out from the SB3 to the Onkyo. I've already searched the forums and found lots of good information, enough to tell me that I should at least try this. But I'd like to know more abou the DAC that the Onkyo uses. All I can find on the 'net or in the documentation is that the DAC is 192Khz, 24-bit. I can't find any other details. I'm just wondering if anyone knows whether the DAC in the Onkyo might be better than the DAC in my SB3. Or is the SB3's DAC so much more superior that it wouldn't even be worth trying to go digital? -- byKnight Really, it was like that when I got here. byKnight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30142 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
Well I seem to be early on the list :) My current set-up is in my signature. I'm not a professional at anything music- or hi-fi-related, although did work in a high-end dealer many years ago. I'm here as I got an SB3 - I used the forum to find out stuff pre-purchase, and quite liked some of the arguments we had. The smaller community is nice compared to some very large audio ones. My audio philosophy is very much on the subjective side. I believe that we have not found out everything we can measure, and that our ears are more sensitive than any other measuring equipment. I don't believe double-blind A-B testing is the be-all as I change into a werewolf the third time I hear a song in a row, although it can be useful. I find that I need to live with stuff for quite a while before deciding what I really think. I subscribe fully to the low power single-ended triode valve amp plus high-efficiency speaker route - I just prefer the sound - it sounds more like real music to me. My system sounds incredibly good and I don't envisage a change to the CD/amp/speakers for many years. I found the stock SB3 lacking, but it's getting OK now with an external DAC; I may do more tweaking. I listen mostly to classical, folk and world music. I go to about one classical/opera concert a week, and see folk or world music about 5-10 times a year. I spend much more on live music than on recorded/hi-fi! Finally I love having equipment that is named after me. Sean should give me a Transporter just so I can have another Slim device remote :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Onkyo DAC vs. SB3's DAC?
The short answer is to try both connections and trust your ears. The long answer is: Some receivers digitize all the analog signals; this allows the receiver to perform various digital processing. If this is the case, then you have a situation where the SB3 DAC is used to decode to analog, then the Onkyo ADC digitizes the analog signal, and finally the Onkyo DAC decodes to analog again. If this is happening, then the straight digital connection will likely sound much better, even if the Onkyo DAC is not as good as the SB3 DAC. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30142 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
Why Highdudgeon? Really, because I love opera and it is a wonderfully archaic word. Think of Wotan skulking across the sage, dragging a spear, wearing a hat with pointy horns, and actually trying to be serious and indignant. Anyway, it is a word I like. My name is George. As a disclaimer, I am very pround to be a Slim Devices retailer. My immediate plans, in fact, are to carry this business to Europe and to help place SD products with high-end dealers in central and southern Europe. I am moving to Italy (the Venetto) with my family, where my wife will practice medicine at a hospital in Vicenza, some 45 miles from Venice. We have already been there this fall on a house-hunting mission and I had a wonderful time demonstrating the Transporter on a system that included Sonus Faber Stradivarius speakers. Awesome. I am in my early forties. My educational background is in history and physics, at the graduate level, but fortune (in the sense of accident) led my to the IT industry in my lates 20s. This allowed me to upgrade my first serious system -- on a college student's budget -- which consisted of a Thorens 'table, NAD integrated amp, Nakamichi tape deck (remember those?), and BW bookshelf speakers. The next move up was to an ARC D-100 amp, ARC SP9 Mk II preamp (marvelous device), I suddenly can't remember the CD player, and Canton speakers. I've been interested in audio from an early age, being an avid music collector, musician, and lover of live music. I had been exposed to some excellent systems in my youth. My bought my first system with savings from a summer job after my freshman year in college. From there, it was a slippery slope. Tubes (Quad, ARC, McIntosh, Cary), solid state (Plinius, NAD, ARC, McIntosh, Bel Canto -- twice -- Nuforce, Bryston, Carver, and probably a few others); electrostatics, floorstanders, monitors; CD players, universal players, SB3, Transporter. Expensive cables (Acoustic Zen Satoris, Oval 9's,s etc.) and inexpensive cables (Blue Jeans Cables now, and Apogee Wyde Eyed for digital...I guess that's not so cheap). EQ devices (Rane, Behringer, Z-Systems). Various DACs. Probably the most expensive system I have had in my house was the following: Harbeth Monitor 40s (incidentally, among the handful of very best amps I have ever heard, at any price), McIntosh MC-501s (a vanity purchase; I traded down); Squeeze Box 3 and Lavry DA10. Because of our move, large speakers are not an option -- my new room is too small. I have downgraded to Harbeth Monitor 30s, backed up by the same ACI Force subs. The subs are in the corders and the speakers are set up per Allison rules. I am running a Transporter directly into a paid of Bel Canto Ref 1000. The Bel Cantos replaced the Nuforces...I just had too many issues with that company and have had problems with the things. The BC's are probably 99% as good as any amp needs to be. They're up there with the MC-402. The MC-402 sounds exactly like the MC-501s. Stereophile compared the MC-501s to $30K+ Halcros as being pretty much the same. Why a switching amp? Because they are small and runn on US and European voltage. Ditto for the Transporter! Plug for Audio Concepts: they will retrofit the amps on my subs for 220/240 for free. Anyway, this is hardly the best system on the planet and, thanks to the very wonderful but admittedly small monitors, it lacks the body of a system with true full-range speakers (of comparable quality, of course). Audio philosophy: My rule of thumb is to spend more money on tickets to live music and on CDs than I do home audio. To begin with, I have two small children and, quite honestly, my listening time at home is limited (somehow, they have yet to damage anything...that amazes me every day). Having gone through as much equipment as I have, knowing as my audiophiles as I do, and having a background in the sciences (I was even managing editor of a psychology journal whilst in grad school...managing as in I did all the dirty work for the academic editor) leads me to believe in the value of double-blind testing. You need to work with one or more friends or family members to do this, of course. Ideally, you should have a few listeners, too, but that is not necessary. I don't do this all the time, of course, but it is fun to do. Educational, too. On the other hand, I am very much a subjectivist, too. This is about enjoyment, right? I really dig and believe in fine solid state amps for their accuracy. However, I have a pair of McIntosh MC-275s. They are NOT on the same level of accuracy as an SS amp and you can immediately hear this. They are wonderfully warm and rich, though, and I love them for that. My reasons are purely emotional. Above all, my philosophy is simply to have fun, enjoy the hobby, and remember that it is all about enjoying music. That is why I enjoy the Sb3 and Transporter so much and why I believe in Slim Devices. Their products heighten my ability to
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
rajacat;158389 Wrote: Tom, Thanks for the review. Did you do any sound quality comparisons using the SB digital out into a quality dac? Raja Not yet. I will also try taking the pre amp out of the equation. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
WD40 - No! deoxit (+pro-gold or WALKER) = great! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
Tom, The one thing you left out: what is the price of each item? -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
highdudgeon;158400 Wrote: Tom, The one thing you left out: what is the price of each item? Go to the Bolder website for pricing on the various mods. http://www.boldercables.com/servlet/Search?category=MODIFICATIONS Raja -- rajacat rajacat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
The 803s are nice speakers. They certainly look nice, too. jmourik;144243 Wrote: Well, I did :-) I really like them, went to listen to them yesterday and bought a pair today. Also listened to some other speakers, vandersteen model 2 and 3, Linn, McIntosh. Didn't like them as much as I did the BW, the sound of the 803 just makes me want to listen to music... Now I'll have to ponder the next step! Thanks for all the advice, guys! -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
Lucky you tomjtx! It's good that you don't find much difference between the Transporter and the Bolder SB2. For me, I like the voodoo sound of the Bolder SB2 more than the Good Engineering sound of the TP. But that's just me. -- 95bcwh 95bcwh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
Hi, my name is Rob, and I'm an alcho er audiophile. I played trumpet for a long time, and for the past year or two have been dabbling in guitar, but I wouldnt call myself a musician. I got my start listening to LPs of Cream or Pink Floyd or Clapton, in a garage with a bunch of other high schoolers. Solder smoke mixed with other smoke, wafted along on air vibrated by the best stereo in town, thanks to my geeky best friend. He was always building some Heathkit thing or another. Later tended equipment and did the mix for a couple of minor recording bands. This got me fascinated with how an amp or PA might have a particular emotional impact and why. Thats what drives me in audio. I think of it as the intersection of the technological with the psychological. It lends itself to a sort of endless noble quest. Once I got out of college and grad school, I finally had enough money to buy a decent rig: Magnepan II's and Audio Research electronics. Since then I've owned alot of different things. In speakers: Klipsch Cornwalls, Quad 989s, Spendor monitors, Quad ESLs, Martin Logan Sequel IIs, Carver Amazings, a pair of small Maggies, Advent Large, JSE Infinite Slope, Mordaunt-Short monitors. My current main speakers are a pair of Vandersteen 5As. In electronics I have had a variety as well: Home-built Tripath Digitals, McIntosh both classic and new, Classe, EAR 859, various Audio Research, Conrad-Johnson. When I get back to Montana I will be rotating out McIntosh and putting in Quicksilver mono-blocks. Why am I now involved with Slim Devices? I think its the future. Once you use hard-drive based audio its hard not to think the days of discs are numbered. My philosophy in audio is probably a bit different. I have given up trying to find accuracy or fidelity to live music. I am just in it for the emotional high that a great system playing great music can bring. And over the years, I have come to the conclusion there are many ways to get there. In fact, I often have three systems set up. So when I get back to Montana, I plan on setting up a couple of other rigs in addition to the Vandersteen-Quicksilver system that will be fed via Transporter. Quad ESLs and a pair of ancient tube monos will be fed by an SB3 in the bedroom. In the office I plan on setting up Spendors with a Tripath digital amp fed from the computer via USB DAC. As for the objective-subjective debate. I can remember a time before Total Harmonic Distortion was used and before anyone had heard of this thing called jitter. So I dont think measurements via instruments are anywhere near close to comprehensively describing audio reality. Nor do I think ABX testing is the holy grail. Its my experience that it takes time to really hear and appreciate. I readily embrace the fact that there is a big psychological, perceptual component and I'm not sure how you control for all that without destroying what you are trying to measure. But, being schooled in the social sciences, I know there are ways to tease out objective measures for that which is wholistic and subjective. If and when that happens, we can all live in peace, as the subjective and the objective will have been reconciled. -- atkinsonrr Transporter, Quicksilver V4 Monos, Vandersteen Model 5A speakers. SB3, Quad Tube Pre-Amp, Tube Monos, Quad ESLs. Homemade Tripath Digital amps, Carver ALS (original) Speakers with Outboard Crossovers. atkinsonrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
Since I already own the SB3, I'm going for the full Bolder mods but without the various options and the Ultimate power supply. With the full mods I can experiment with various dacs or go without. Over the next year I will see what other possible competitors to Slim Devices develop to compete with the Transporter and also see how the buyout of Slim Devices affects prospective product offerings and pricing. Also I might attempt to build my own Ultimate Power Supply. Raja -- rajacat rajacat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
95bcwh;158415 Wrote: Lucky you tomjtx! It's good that you don't find much difference between the Transporter and the Bolder SB2. For me, I like the voodoo sound of the Bolder SB2 more than the Good Engineering sound of the TP. But that's just me. I think it could also be what we get used to. I've had the TP for over a month and really like what it does. I understand why the mag. writers live with a component for 6 months before reviewing. I could easily be happy with either one. There were times I prefered the laid backness of the Bolder and times I prefered the ballsiness of the TP. I listen a lot to vinyl (Full blown Linn Graham etc.). I hear analogue elements in both the Bolder and TP. I really want to hear a modded TP after this, which I truly mean as a compliment to Wayne. I also respect the fact Wayne hasn't advertised TP mods the day the TP was released like some of the modders out there. he sems to be taking his time, trying out different things and commenting on them in his forum. He has a lot of integrity. This has been fun and I'm not finished. I'll try the Bolder straight to amp next. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Guys I've enjoyed the debate and had a bit of fun with the banter but Sean I'm disappointed with your comment: Quote: Originally Posted by GaryG View Post What facts would you like? Lower impedence power supply. Lower noise power supply. Lower noise decoupling caps. Point-to-point wiring to avoid the di-electric loss in the PCB. Better voltage regulation. Lower noise regulators. Regards Gary Yes, please provide real data supporting any of the above! In my eyes, you've done quite a few entries in that list to move from the level of performance of the SB to the TP, including the quality components swap you dismissed (by changing your DAC chip to the 'miracle' DAC). Also, I think it only fair to point out that Wayne made no comment whatsoever on what the modifications to the Transporter would do, I asked him many months ago if he could do anything with the Transporter and he said he would take a look at it, mine's been gathering dust in his workshop for several months as he's been very busy with other work (hence the reason the 30 day trial return wasn't of interest, it's long gone). Truth be told, I don't think Wayne has much interest in modifying the Transporter, it's all surface mount stuff which is a pain to work with. From the user's point of view, modifying equipment that uses SMD has a low value/performance ratio due to the labour costs for the mod, (I experienced that when I had my Meridian G98 modified, www.meridianunplugged.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=70#10). I've spent a lot of time and effort trying to get a PC based music solution to match the quality of the best CD players, it's not easy. Jitter buster's like the Big Ben and Meridian 518 do a good job but as the resolution of your system improves the drawbacks of these approaches becomes audible (I commented on it in this thread, www.meridianunplugged.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000945#02). When I was a young man, electonics was my trade, and even though it's been 20 years since I moved from hardware to software I still find my electronics background a hindrince when it comes to audio, not everything that can be heard is visible on a 'scope or a meter; for example, my mains leads have a Furutech FI-25 gold plug at one end and Oyaide C-046 IEC connector on the other. After audioning the various permuations of plugs and sockets from Furutech and Oyaide Gold-Gold, Gold-Rhodium, Rhodium/Silver/Bronze-Gold etc I found that in my system the Furutech Gold plugs and IEC gave me the best soundstage and dynamics and frequency response that I like but at the expense of a 'gritty', 'splashy' sound and so compromised on the FI-25/C-046 combination. That's just the power cables, my power conditioner has different type of power receptacles, different materials match different equipment, what works for the CD player doesn't necessarily work as well for the amps. At this point I suspect that a few of you think I've lost the plot but if you add up all the small improvements from each tweak the end result is quite marked. For example, I used to use squash balls under all my equipment (42 of them under the Wadia alone to take the weight!), which sit on ClearAudio RDC Super Postion Platform shelves which sit on Mana reference tables, which sit on 6 Mana Soundstages. I tried using Stillpoints in favour of the squashballs but found that I didn't like the shift in frequency response, StillPoints are a little light in the base compared to squashballs although they have a more open sound and don't affect the dynamics of the leading edge of transients. Squashballs unfortunately do affect the leading edge and remove some of the 'attack' of the leading edge and do smear the upper bass, however, I found that by using the Stillpoints with 4 squashballs I got the best of both worlds with only a small change in the frequency response which I was ables to get back by substituting a different mains cable to the CD player. Also, Bybees get a rough-ride on this forum when they can have a dramatic effect on the your system removing the noise and graininess from the music. Used in combination with ERS cloth they can transorm the sound of your kit. Too many people spend time dismissing items based on the markeding guff instead of trying them out for themselves and getting real-world experience, I love watching the look on the faces of non-beliievers when they come round and hear my system, one of my favourite tricks is to switch the digital cable between the Transport and DAC section of the Wadia (a neat little tweak, the external connection sounds better than the internal connection) and watch while they try and figure out how changing a DIGITAL cable can change the sound quality. Anyway, enough of the waffle, I've had an email from somebody offering to let me hear a Transporter so I've taken up the offer. Thanks for your comments guys, if anybody's interested in hearing how it compares let me know.
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
highdudgeon;158400 Wrote: Tom, The one thing you left out: what is the price of each item? I don't know exactly what I have. Bolder SB2 with full mods 400.00+300.00 for SB? Bolder nitro? power cord Bolder power cord from PS to SB Ultimate Power Supply 750.00 1 pair Bolder RCA IC's I don't know if anything has bybees Go to is website and price the above. I think the base price would be 1,800 to 2,000.00 but please don't hold me to that. I think at minimum we are at or above the 1700.00 cost of the TP. For someone w/o an SB I would be inclined to recommend the TP. Live with it awhile, then try to audition a modded TP to see if you like that. For someone that already owns an SB the mods could be the way to go. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe In the meantime... here's the temporary setup in the room at my friend's that I've taken over as an office until my house is ready... SB3, Arcam Black Box 50, Yamaha DSP-A592 (running in straight stereo), Chord Cobra II interconnect, Audio Innovations Silver Bi-Wire speaker cable. +---+ |Filename: IMG_0416.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2046| +---+ -- Squirrel Squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5785 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
Here is an unortodox upgrade: Take a music appreciation class, learn a bit about theory etc. the most revealing sytem is the brain knowing what to hear(look) for Pretty cheap upgrade too:-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
Hello all. Looking at the posts about the new Transporter I thought I would add my experience (so far) to the mix. I bought the Transporter in the end because I had heard only good things about the SB and I wanted a network player so that I could avoid my 1 year old daughter using my CD collection as chew toys and also use Internet radio (instead of buying a tuner/digital radio box). I also didn't want to have a worse listening experience than that I already had on my system: Arcam CD82T CD Player Niam 3i Amp Kef Q5 Speakers Initially I got the SB3 and, as I had all my other gear in a shipping container from London, bought a NAD C320BEE amp and Wharfdale Dimond 9.1 bookcase speakers for the SB. Sounded fine and I really liked the interface - I could see I would be rediscovering stuff I hadn't listened to for ages. The Internet radio was excellent as well. When the Transporter arrived the sound difference was obvious even on that setup. I'm not great with the terminology but any music had more clarity, you could pick out individual instruments better etc. There was still quite a lots of sssy hissing in the vocals that I have been told is an issue with the quality of the amplifier reproducing the human s sound (lots of high pitched frequency variation evidently!). Anyway the Transporter was producing the best sound that the NAD/Wharfdale setup could handle basically. On to the other kit - I was excited! Plugging everything else in I played a CD to start off with that I had listened to when I first bought the stereo - Aimee Mann - Lost in Space on my CD player. After 3 months in a packing case I realised how much I had missed the stereo. The tremour in Aimees voice could be clearly heard, the instruments had great spacing and sounded dynamic. Trying Jack Johnson the guitar on the first track could be heard in great detail - the finger movements on the fret board could be picked up. Everything sounded great. So onto the Transporter, plug everything in (I did use slightly different connectors although the same dealer supplied both and said they were equivalent - I can't remember the details) and... wheres the sound!?!!! Turn up the volume control settings (what is the softer sound for by the way?) and everything sounded almost the same! After switching around several times on the same track (Jack Johnson this time) I could hear slight differences but only slight. The CD player sounded a little more dynamic, the TRansporter slightly more laid back. The Transporter had a very flat background where the CD player had a slight echoy, roomy sound (like the recording studio background which I must say I quite like). But really on my setup they were equivalent. Blind testing with my wife listening confirmed that there wasn't much between them. Except of course the Transporter cost £1200, the CD player I got for £450! For me then the Transporter did provide a network player that matched the performance of my CD player which was the main goal as I won't not use it because it sounds worse. In the end I will use both I think. Looks and feel and the like - I don't really care although I agree with other things I have read about the buttons and nobs etc. - why have them? I would have liked a better remote control or slightly larger screens etc. The buttons will never get used unless the batteries run flat on the remote and I haven't got spare ones to hand! The main point for me though is that at £1200 I probably would have got a much better listening experience by spending the same money on a pre-amp/power amp combination (converting my old Naim 3i). In summary then I would, if I had my time again, happily buy a Transporter if I was going to avoid buying a good CD player altogether. Otherwise I think you would get better value for money with a good (or great) CD player and spending the change on a better amp/speaker combination. I do wonder if the Transporter does have a lot more performance in it however but as I have blown all my cash on the Transporter it may be many years before I find out! What do people using it on a really good amplifier think? Good listening anyway, Chris -- cdmein cdmein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
were you streaming files to the TP or using it as a DAC, there is a big difference in my system. If you streamed files, were they lossless or full file or lossy mp3 If they weren't lossless or full file it's not an apples to apples comparison. Let us know and have fun. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
I'll play. My name is - well, my name is what you see so no need to explain that one :). I've been tracking the squeezebox for a while and only got into it a month or so ago. Experience wise - I'm a bit of a 'muso' having played in many bands over the years. Not really an audiophile - and tend to be a bit bewildered over discussions about cables and DACs and power supply replacements etc. I do appreciate good audio quality though, and have a fairly good studio environment that I have spent a lot of time and money getting to my liking. The thing that keeps me here though is the excellent design of the Slimdevices devices... A really excellent way of listening to my music, and has supplanted my CD collection. Really enjoying Squeezenetwork too - Pandora is just excellent :). -- Paul Shields Paul Shields's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8422 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
Ok, I'll play! My name is Phil, and I'm an audio dealer located in Northern NJ. My screen name is PhilNYC because I used to live in NYC, and I didn't feel like changing my name to PhilNJ on the dozen or so audio forums I've participated on past and present. I first started here on the SD forum as a happy SB2 customer. Became a SD retailer when the Transporter was announced, because I anticipated that it would be a network music server product that would finally perform at a high end audio level, and it has not disappointed. I'm what you call a home-based dealer; I operate my dealership out of my home. I've been in business for about 4 years, and I only sell gear that I want to own for myself. That said, I have over 1000sqft of dedicated demo space, with 4 systems available for demo: 1 - Reference System: Focus Audio FS888 speakers, Blue Circle BC3000mkII GzPZ preamp, BC206 hybrid amplifier, Dodson DA-218 DAC and SD Transporter (also an Oracle CD1000 for folks who bring their own CDs to listen to). 2 - Tube System: Focus Audio FS-78SE speakers, Cayin A70T tube integrated amp, Bel Canto CD-1 cd player. 3 - AV System: Acoustic Zen Adagio speakers, Bel Canto ref1000 monoblock amps, Pre2 preamp, DAC3 DAC, modified Sony S7700 DVD player, Panasonic 50 plasma. 4 - Office system: Focus Audio FS-68SE monitors, Bel Canto Pre3 preamp, S300 amp, SD Squeezebox 2 driving Zhaolu 2.0 DAC. Slimserver is running on my eMac, where I have 14 days worth of music (so far) ripped to an external hard drive. I'm an unoffical co-founder of a NYC-based audio club called the NY Audio Rave. We use Audiocircle.com as our online home, and we have meetings in peoples' homes once a month. Its via these meetings that gives me the opportunity to hear far more gear and systems than I ever thought possible, with gear shootouts being a focus of many of our meetings. I was a believer in the effects of power cords, interconnects, vibration control devices, and other tweaks long before I became a dealer. I do not believe that something needs to be expensive to be good; I also do not believe that if something is expensive, it is overpriced. I'm willing to try just about any tweak once, but do not use many tweaks in my general audio/music-listening life. That said, I think Machina Dynamica is full of sh*t...! I am also of the believe that there is very little *bad* gear out there, but that system synergy and proper setup plays a huge role in the differences we hear in audio gear. I'm in my early 40s, and I grew up mostly listening to rock, blues and jazz. Played piano as a child and keyboards in a college rockband, but was a jazz saxophonist in high school. At my current age, I no longer play the piano or saxophone...if someone wants me to play music, I now play the stereo. :-) My music taste has evolved as I've gotten older. I will admit that my audiophiling has also affected my musical tastes, finding it hard to listen to poorly recorded music from the 1940s and earlier as well as some of my favorite stuff from the 80s. These days, I'm listening to a lot of guitar-based music (everything from Jeff Beck to Tommy Emmanuel to Kenny Burrell), trumpet (John Faddis, Mark Isham), and world music (Mino Cinelu, Robbie Robertson, others). But I still consider Sonny Rollins and Stan Getz among my favorites. As far as my audiophile tastes, I have gotten to the point where I don't think I could live without a tube somewhere in my system! The Blue Circle hybrid amps are perfect for me, because I can get the warmth and musicality of tubes that I love while still getting enough speed and clarity that the music I love demands. I'm not a mega-bass kind of guy, as you can probably see from my primary use of 2-way speakers with no subwoofer. And Ralph Dodson is the most impressive engineer I've met in this industry, so if he thinks Bybees help, I'm all for 'em...! ;-) Anyways, that's me... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;158351 Wrote: They don't tend to deal with Rotel anymore - apparently, although the equipment was good, their customer service was terrible, and customers were left waiting for items. This is important. Even the best products can fail, so excellent customer service is important to consider. And serious dealers will not accept it either. Unfortunately, a non-serious dealer will say that they drop a brand because of poor service - but actually they don't get the margins they want... -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
tomjtx were you streaming files to the TP or using it as a DAC, there is a big difference in my system. If they weren't lossless or full file it's not an apples to apples comparison. I was using my TP as is streaming lossless WAV files to it. So the comparision was between the TP and the Arcam CD82T with only slightly different connectors. I could have taken those out of the equation as well with lots of cable plugging and unplugging but I doubt they would change my view that basically both setups are equivalent when played through my amp/speakers. I am tempted to take all the kit down to my local hi-fi shop and connect it up to a top line amp/speaker combo and see if a difference between the TP and CD player can't be found. The sound is only as good as your weakest component really and in my setup I don't think this is the TP (or the CD player). Chris -- cdmein cdmein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
jonheal;158013 Wrote: Here are some of my annoying traits: - I interrupt people when they're talking - I don't listen well - I often don't give people the benefit of the doubt - I'm often negative - I'm selfish I hear you're also lactose intolerant and like milkshakes. -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
thanks for the clarification -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
I thought you were going away? P Floding;158002 Wrote: Unlike you I sure as hell don't have time to read all postings here. I read the initial one, and answered that. I hope that explains things for you? I don't think this forum works exactly because you and others demand everyone to be in tune. So when you are all a happy, jolly little mob, where you have all figured out who is boss over whom, you get all upset when someone ignores your understanding or isn't fully in tune (wrong kind of humor, wrong spelling, stupid ideas -you name it). And please stop that i think people should be able to say what they think, but... It's so pathetic. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
Chris, Your weakest component -- no offense -- are your speakers. Honestly, the differences between some of these sources will be negligible to non-existent unless you have significantly superior speakers, speakers that are set up properly, etc. In your case, a Squeeze Box might be all you need. cdmein;158453 Wrote: The sound is only as good as your weakest component really and in my setup I don't think this is the TP (or the CD player). Chris -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
GaryG;158427 Wrote: Guys Anyway, enough of the waffle, I've had an email from somebody offering to let me hear a Transporter so I've taken up the offer. Thanks for your comments guys, if anybody's interested in hearing how it compares let me know. Regards Gary Hi Gary, Good luck with the tests - let us know how it goes. Just make sure you have high quality lossless files for your test (FLAC, WAV or ALAC). I think you must have a very easy listening room to enjoy all the tweaks. In my situation it isn't worth it; I need to fix my room's acoustics first. Tom -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
GaryG;158427 Wrote: For example, I used to use squash balls under all my equipment (42 of them under the Wadia alone to take the weight!), which sit on ClearAudio RDC Super Postion Platform shelves which sit on Mana reference tables, which sit on 6 Mana Soundstages. I tried using Stillpoints in favour of the squashballs but found that I didn't like the shift in frequency response, StillPoints are a little light in the base compared to squashballs although they have a more open sound and don't affect the dynamics of the leading edge of transients. Squashballs unfortunately do affect the leading edge and remove some of the 'attack' of the leading edge and do smear the upper bass, however, I found that by using the Stillpoints with 4 squashballs I got the best of both worlds with only a small change in the frequency response which I was ables to get back by substituting a different mains cable to the CD player. Gary, you are clearly a lunatic of an even higher order than me. This forum would be less without you, so please do post your comments on the TP, modded and not. But perhaps in a new thread with an oddness warning :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Gary, thank you for being even wierder than I :-) Now I don't feel so strange putting my TP on acrylic wheels on a microscan table. Hey, it was sitting around, I never even bought it, a dealer friend left it here 10 years ago, every time he is over he says he going to take it but I always give him enough wine to make him forget (maybe I have paid for it after all.it's pretty good wine) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
I'd like to make an observation about the change in attitude we've seen from Sean. Not very long ago, his postings were just about as friendly as you could possibly hope to read. His tolerance of pretty much every tweak and mod to the SB, no matter how nutty, was absolutely remarkable. Recently, and particularly in this thread, he seems to have become just a little - how do I put this? - pissed off. And I can quite understand why. From what I've been able to gather, Sean has worked his nuts off for several months to engineer the Transporter to be the finest device he could possibly build. It's his baby, and he probably feel very protective towards it. So it's no wonder that when he starts hearing about proposed modifications that, due to his intimate knowledge of how the TP works, he is pretty damn sure are likely to actually degrade it, he's gonna start being just a little less than polite to those who are in some ways threatening his baby. What's more, if a lot of modded Transporters start appearing on the scene, and they turn out to be inferior to the stock item (as it seems Sean is fairly certain they will be), then it's going to hurt the reputation of the Genuine Article(tm). I for one feel for Sean - I get the impression that he would *really* like to let rip, but basic courtesy is making him bite his lip. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
highdudgeon;158462 Wrote: Your weakest component -- no offense -- are your speakers. Honestly, the differences between some of these sources will be negligible to non-existent unless you have significantly superior speakers, speakers that are set up properly, etc. In your case, a Squeeze Box might be all you need. I suspect the KEFs are up to showing the difference between a TP and an SB, but Arcam vs TP may be a bit much for them (i.e. I agree with highdudgeon!) The Naim is a decent amp (not something I'd buy, but it does do some things very well), so the system would be up to a better pair of speakers, which would be much more revealing. Perhaps the Arcam/Naim/KEF system worked well together, and the TP lost the balance somehow. Anyway KEF Qs are kinda bland. The guy I bought my Harbeth HL-P3ES speakers from used them with a Naim amp, and it did sound good... Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: BolderSB2/UltimatePS V TP
Given the cost, a real deal-breaker for me, other than long-term product support, would be aesthetics. And, no, this is not because I am a retailer. I had a SB3 running into the rather industrial-looking Lavry DA10. Now, the SB3, while cute, is not exactly the loveliest bit of gear. Throw in a Lavry and you're talking geeky. Geeky is not part of our decor. So, to me, having the extra bells and whistles, design-wise, is important. The dual displays, the knob, etc., look good in our living room -- good enough for my wife to notice and comment on it. And that, my friends, is saying a lot. The bottom line is that I am picky about design and that small sonic differences can be outweighed by design issues. Now, if the sound is a tad better and the design is a world better... But, YMMV. I have friends with cables all over the place, strange boxes piled on exotic boxes, etc. They tend to be 1) single or 2) have dedicated guy room in their house. I am happy to have my primary system in the family room. That is where we spend a great deal of time, entertain guests, house a collection of modern furniture that far outprices the audio stuff, etc. Anyway, interesting review, Tom. Thanks for taking the time to do this. I think you are right: for some people, and especially those already owning a SB2/3, going the way of modifications might be attractive. For others, certain considerations -- sound quality, support, and aesthetics -- make the Transporter attractive. Either way, it's all about enjoying music and the experience of putting together a system that appeals to YOU. In the end, the consumer is the best judge of what that means and what will get him (or her) there. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
In the 3rd brane my name is )(^^##%*(*))) but just call me Tom. I have the following: Speakers: Swillsome Audio Amp/Guppies Electronics: Stiff'm Roll'em Design Group XTC cables PhatDevices Incinerator and SneezeBox30 designed by Con Madman Milder Cables Penultimate Power Supply Sinn Sound Drek TT with GrahamCracker Arm Cardinal Phang Light Speed power conditioner (sorry CP) YouvegotsomeNerve Acoustic treatments: Response Depends Tri-Corner Diapers, A-slap Triangles. Room-Loon floor standers BS-C tube traps Per Get-High Dungeons speaker placement suggestions one speaker is hung from the ceiling and the other is upside down on the floor. The results: OMG OMG OMG , astonishing. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
I have been wondering about the KEF speakers as well. They are a bit of a baby hazard really and if I could get a similar or better sound out of something else of a similar price I would be quite happy. One pain I have found is actually testing out the TP - it is a bit difficult to take down to a hi-fi shop. Thanks for the feedback. I really think the TP needs some excellent kit to shine and think building a system around it would be worthwhile. But for a low/mid range system like mine it is a bit of a luxury. Chris -- cdmein cdmein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
cliveb;158467 Wrote: I'd like to make an observation about the change in attitude we've seen from Sean. Actually, I just stopped taking my pills. :) -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Personal Transporter vs decent(ish) CD Player setup
cdmein;158476 Wrote: One pain I have found is actually testing out the TP - it is a bit difficult to take down to a hi-fi shop. Chris I know; you need to bring a server as well! Actually a laptop should do nicely. You only need to bring your favorite 15-20 albums - in FLAC that is around 6GB. Set fixed IP addresses and use a crossover cable. The laptop serves as a web front-end as well; I suggest using the nokia770 skin. Tom -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;158351 Wrote: (some of which are, again, over our budget, but hey... I can always say 'no'. Right?). Have fun. But keep a tight hold on your credit card: going into an expensive toyshop can be bad for your wealth! Ever been to a timeshare presentation? ;) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Amen. Now, I will go take some pills. tomjtx;158482 Wrote: Where else would the CEO take the time to respond and explain so much about his product? This is what I love about this company. it's refreshing, Sean, to hear you speak with candor and honesty re. the TP. I would be seriously concerned about modding something that already sounds so good, it's smart to wait and hear if there is a difference. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
cliveb;158467 Wrote: I'd like to make an observation about the change in attitude we've seen from Sean. Well, I don't see that: Sean has always been proud of his designs and baffled by why people think they need $1000 power cords... But that said, the real change I noticed was that people suddenly started bragging about how insane they are More lighthearted than the usual You need the Widgy3000 or perhaps you are just deaf and can't hear the subtleties and it would be lost on a peon like you that sometimes shows up. (Admittedly not nearly as often here as on a lot of other forums..) Spending money on a Transporter (or a Squeezebox), the associated Other Crap (whether it is an $2000 amp or a $200 receiver), the CDs that the thing always demands (mine says, feed me seymour), and wasting time here is... Insane. But insanity is often good. Or at least better than being boring. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
I have a fully modded and stock Transporter. I haven't done any critical A/Bing, nor do I really intend to, but, for what its worth, they both sound fantastic as transports. Living in Los Altos, I'd be happy to bring them by SD if someone over there wants to compare them. -- Sleestack *headphone:* singlepower sds-xlr at, classe sacd2, hd650 *2 channel:* tact rcs 2.2.xp w/ full aberdeen mods, bel canto oneref. 1000 monoblocks x 4,teac esoteric p-03/d-03, epiphany 12-12s (waiting for my 20-21s), tact w210 corner load subs *5.1 channel:* tact tcs mkii w/ aberdeen power supply, tact boz 216/2200 (x5) w/ aberdeen power supply, tact adc6 w/ full aberdeen mods, denon 5910, bel canto pl-1a, eggleston andra ii (x5), velodyne dd-15, pioneer elite pro 1130hd Sleestack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
tomsi42;158301 Wrote: Congratulations. Welcome to the Rotel club.Thank you :-) tomsi42;158301 Wrote: Are you using the Denon as a pre-amp? Should be interesting to compare that to the Rotel RC-1070 pre-amp.Yes, Denon is pre-amp and used for the surround channels. I did actually hear a Rotel stereo pre-amp and a cd player, the RCD-1072. I liked the Rotel cd player better than the SB2. The SB2 almost sounded muddy compared to the Rotel. tomsi42;158301 Wrote: Have you decided on the SB3 or transporter yet?Nope, not yet. Well, not the SB3, I don't think that will be an upgrade really compared to the SB2. I'm hoping the SB4 will have the TP dac, I don't need all the fancy TP stuff really, just the nice layout and dac :-) I guess, realistically, I'll have to go for the TP... jan -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Speaker terminal contact cleaner
Cool, this is what I ordered: DeoxIT® DN5 Mini Spray, 5%, nonflammable, quick dry - non drip, 14 grams, clamshell packaging DeoxIT® GOLD GN5 Mini Spray (formerly ProGold), 5% solution, nonflammable, quick dry - non drip, 14 grams, clamshell packaging Hope that's OK :-) jan -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Sleestack;158513 Wrote: I have a fully modded and stock Transporter. I haven't done any critical A/Bing, nor do I really intend to, but, for what its worth, they both sound fantastic as transports. Living in Los Altos, I'd be happy to bring them by SD if someone over there wants to compare them. Who modded your TP and do you know what the mods are? -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
tomjtx;158525 Wrote: Who modded your TP and do you know what the mods are? I'm hoping 'TP' isn't the best nickname we can come up with for the Transporter. :) -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
JJZolx;158528 Wrote: I'm hoping 'TP' isn't the best nickname we can come up with for the Transporter. :) O yeh, i just got it , sorry... But a good slogan: Wipe away the grunge with TP Sean, I'll let you know where to send the royalties -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
tomjtx;158525 Wrote: Who modded your TP and do you know what the mods are? The mods to Sleestack's TP were done by Aberdeen(mauimods.com). If you're interested, I suggest you contact him directly for more details. PS- Sean, glad to hear you're off the pills. Send the leftovers to George. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
jhm731;158555 Wrote: The mods to Sleestack's TP were done by Aberdeen(mauimods.com). If you're interested, I suggest you contact him directly for more details. PS- Sean, glad to hear you're off the pills. Send the leftovers to George. Yes it was. Anthony does all of my TACT ger and sources. I had him do full mods on one piece for my reference headphone system, whatever that may include. I have much trust in him and his work. He never goes overboard and provides and measurements whenever possible. -- Sleestack *headphone:* singlepower sds-xlr at, classe sacd2, hd650 *2 channel:* tact rcs 2.2.xp w/ full aberdeen mods, bel canto oneref. 1000 monoblocks x 4,teac esoteric p-03/d-03, epiphany 12-12s (waiting for my 20-21s), tact w210 corner load subs *5.1 channel:* tact tcs mkii w/ aberdeen power supply, tact boz 216/2200 (x5) w/ aberdeen power supply, tact adc6 w/ full aberdeen mods, denon 5910, bel canto pl-1a, eggleston andra ii (x5), velodyne dd-15, pioneer elite pro 1130hd Sleestack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What should be the first upgrade?
Interesting thread for me. Thanks to all the contributors. I have BW 804 mains center + BW 805 rears for the AV part. Also a Velodyne DD15 sub. Just added a Transporter. But running it all off a Denon 3805 AVR. For TP into the 3805 I normally run in 'pure stereo' mode. I first heard the BW's at a specialist BW dealer here in Beijing. At that time I was travelling monthly from the US to China. Of course the BW's in the dealership were being driven by big amps. Rotel I think. I'll need to go back for a look. Quite an interesting shopping mall(Oriental Plaza)...bose upstairs, BW downstairs! I bought the equipment in the US before coming out to China on assignment. The BW's appealed not only the sound and the looks, but also being British allowed a little bit of patriotism to creep into the purchasing decision. Although I'm pleased with what I've got, reading the postings it really looks like I need to be thinking of audio amps to drive the two front 804s. Certainly, if my memory serves me right, what I heard at the dealer, was that bit better than what I have at home. Appreciate any comments on this. Is the Denon 3805 such a weak link in this set-up? Dan -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
