Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Hi, I've recently changed my transporter's configuration in order to use directly itunes (macosx 10.4.10) to manage and play my music. So i've bought an airport express, activate airtunes and connect the airport express directly to the transporter using the toslink digital in. After some trouble to get any sounds (reset...), i can now directly play itunes directly to my transporter but all the tracks present crackles and pop when playing. I use ALAC file format and all my tracks are clean, perfectly ripped, playing with absolutely no crackles if i stream it wireless use slimserver on my mac ! Any idea where the problem can be ? Is my toslink cable not adapted for handle it or if the toslink in of the transporter presents some problem ? Any help will be very appreciated... Thanks -- Chander Transporter SB3, Arcam Alpha 8R+8P, Klipsch RF7, Synology CS 406, some QED cables. Chander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
The Modwright mod completely rebuilds the output stage, so will certainly change the sound. I see no reason why it should not be possible to improve on the stock unit - IMO a valve output stage makes good sense. The problem with mods for me is that lack of ability to test what it does. You send your TP off, it comes back in a few weeks - can you really remember the sound? Aren't you just so glad to get it back? There are very few ways of doing good testing, and very few instances of people posting such test results for others to see. But there's no point discussing that again - the religious nature of mods is not worth going over, let's consider what the OP wants, as far as possible. So the Modwright just adds an output stage for $2k. This seems expensive to me. Their mods to CD players often include all sorts of power supplies, expensive-sounding cables and stuff, as well as this output stage and come in at the same kinda price. Compare Patrick Dixon's SB+ (which I own). This also gives you a new output stage, but also reboxes the device and gives it new PSUs in a separate box too - for the same price, which includes the 'donor' SB3. I suspect that the price is what it is because people expect to pay that sort of amount for TP mods. But I've not heard it... Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
Before dropping $2,000 you could try digital-domain effects with the Inguz plug-in - http://inguzaudio.com/usage/plugin/ -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
iwalker;224434 Wrote: The alternative to the minimalist approach is egd's system with the ATC SCA2 preamp. This would allow me to use vinyl , but is it going to add or detract from the overall quality? Adding any kind of active electronics into the signal path can only ever degrade the signal. If you use a device that's good enough (and I suspect the ATC SCA2 probably *is* good enough), then the degradation will be beneath the threshold of audibility, and therefore transparent. But a handful of metal film resistors to make up a passive attenuator costs a darn sight less than an SCA2. If you're only interested in the preamp so you can play vinyl, remember you'll need the optional SPH2 board as well, further upping the price. An alternative and cheaper setup would be to use a standalone phono preamp plus an A/D converter and feed that into one of the Transporter's digital inputs. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter - Denon 3805 AVR - Rotel RMB 1095 5 channel amp - 3x BW 804, 2x BW 805. Velodyne DD15 Subwoofer (driven by Denon). Mostly play in so called 5channel stereo via the Denon AVR. Sometimes switch to pure direct on the Denon when 'really listening'. Denon useful as front end as I use the set up for DVD's, TV etc. I probably didn't need the Rotel power amp, but overcome by the usual lust. Dan -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
aha. nobody heard his class-a tube stages for other players before? as far as I read on the web his mods are highly regarded to sound damn good. I just want a one-box solution and that is transporter. I have my denon 3910 connected via optical + my PC. I don't want any other tube preamp but you are right, I would not want to have my transporter modded before I hear some very positive feedback about the mod. the inguz room correction plugs-in will also work with the tube-stage. so I will have to wait until the first reviews will come up... thanks so far for your input -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver Interconnects | REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP | REDGUM LS Cable | BW Nautilus 802 D | Live musicians at the end of my room! truckfighters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates
Right, but everyone knows that there are 10 kinds of people in the worldthose who understand binary and those who don't. :) -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
If the transporter are so good why do people what to mod it ? If slimddevices was given the task of creating a cost no objeects reference devices like that transporter, based apone the transporter but where the price diddnt matter would the end up with the stock transporter ? -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
I doubt if I'm the only one wishing to use an SB3 with one of the new, micro class T amps. I saw the Kingrex T20U which looks just the job, and it carries its own DAC, albeit with only a USB input. Is it possible to connect the SPDIF output from the SB3 to this via some sort of adaptor ? I already have a DAC with SPDIF input so I'm specifically looking for a USB solution. Thanks -- liffy99 liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38117 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
truckfighters, I have been watching the thread over on audiocircle discussing this modificaiton with interest. I am in the wait and see camp though, I'm sure a few will go for it and post their findings. I anticipate we'll get a shootout in due time with the stock vs. mod'd transporter. Re: value of the mods, hard to argue versus his other players, which range around ~$4k complete. This modification has both his tube output stage and tube rectified PS all mounted in the transporter case. I too have a simple system (source-amp-spkrs) that I want to keep that way and adding the modwright sound (i previously owned a SWL9.0SE) is very tempting. -- 04dgmsilv 04dgmsilv's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
harmonic;224568 Wrote: If the transporter are so good why do people what to mod it ? The Spanish have an answer for that question: De ilusion tan bien se vive -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
tomjtx;224589 Wrote: harmonic;224568 Wrote: If the transporter are so good why do people what to mod it ? The Spanish have an answer for that question: De ilusion tan bien se vive Are i see bravo you have really figured the whole thing out. I have read some pretty lame and ignorant things on hifi forums but yours take the price. If you can build a moon rocket you can sure as hell also improve the performans of the transporter. Maybe the one you tested diddent sound eny better then the stock one, but moddifing audio equiptment is not a ilusion eny one that says that is a igorent fool. For some reason the human brain finds it easyer to beleive that a hamster size cable with big boxes that cost 100,000 dollars can bring massiv improvments. But ironicly dossent beleive in that changing parts with better parts within the source itsself can improve the sound. And justifys it with calling itan ilusion. Its alsmost funny. -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter analog into Amp
iwalker;224406 Wrote: I recently bought a Transporter and connected the balanced output into Active ATC 100 speakers. I am worried that I have damaged the speakers.. Despite following all instructions, I could not get the volume control on the Transporter to operate at all. This meant that, momentarily, the full output went into the speakers.Other front panel controls were also inoperative, so perhaps I was just unlucky with this unit. I have returned the Transporter as faulty and received a refund, but am now reluctant to buy a replacement having read the threads about the need for attenuation. As the balanced outputs don't allow attenuation it all seems to be getting far too complicated! My idea was to have a simple signal path, but I am now wondering if I will have to introduce a preamp, especially, as I will eventually need a phono stage. Will a high quality preamp ( eg ATC SCA2) be a sensible option or will it just degrade the signal? If you are going to need a phono stage in the future you ARE going to need a pre-amp. If I were you I really really wouldn't worry about having a pre-amp in the system. You have very nice speakers (which are far and away the most important part of any system) and an excellent source. You will need a good pre-amp to balance up your system. The ATC would be a good visual and system match. All this stuff about signal path is nonsense IMHO. You simply wouldn't believe what most music has gone through before you get to hear it. A high quality ($1k or above as a guide) pre-amp is NOT going to damage the signal.. any more than the line level stages in your ATC amps are doing right now... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34484 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
Why don't you just run the SB3 analogue outs into the kingrex...it's not like the DAC in there is going to be noticeably better than the one in the SB3... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38117 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
Hey harmonic - If you don't have anything useful to add to the discussion - just hold your tongue. I for one have had both a Modwright-modded CD player as well as his SWL 9.0 preamp. Both VERY good. I have no doubt that he will make real improvements on the sound of the Transporter. For some it will be worth it. For those than immediately downplay the effect (for the good) of tubes in a system just haven't heard it implemented well. No audiophile speak here... To many, they just sound more natural or real -- barty barty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP - dCS Delius DAC - Naim 552 - Naim 300 - Naim SL2s Interestingly neither the TP nor the dCS seem to deliver as good a sound when connected directly to the 300. Pitty, I was hoping to free up some cash! -- anselld anselld's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
It is probably safe to say the modwright TP will sound different because it uses tubes. whether or not it sounds better is a matter of preference . If you prefer tubes you might think it is better , if you prefer SS you might not like the mods. As one poster pointed out, why not try a tube premp. One could also try a tube buffer like the Musical Fidelity for much less money. I am not knocking modwriht, they have an excellent rep and design their own, well regarded tube gear. Harmonic, you should learn Spanish before you go off half cocked and embarass yourself again. Ilusion means hope as well as illusion. The saying could describe the audiophile condition. As soon as we hear one improvement we want to hear another and we hope to acieve that one way or the other. The ilusion side would be our ability to fool ourselves into thinking a difference exists when ,in fact, it might not. I can overlook your mispelling because english is not your 1st language and it is easy to mispell in english even when it is your first language :-) I find it harder to overlook your inability to form a coherent thought and your subsequent lapse into name calling. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
Hi Again! Both me and Hammer are back from Holiday. We are waiting to get some help from Hammers friend at the Royal Institute of Technology. He is a researcher and has very limited time. Things may take a while, But please be patient. We realy like to track this thing down. I have tried Audiodiffmaker but i got strange results, Both With my CD and the SB3. After reading this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37352 I will not continue with Audiodiffmaker And Johann You are welcome to listen at my home here in Stockholm to this Thing maybe you don´t have to feel ashame to be Swedish... Send me a private message, how to contact you etc. If you are interested. Regards! /Mats :-) -- omega omega's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
They're BCK I am so excited to see that this important issue will be resolved :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
Quality is the paramount issue for me and for that reason I've not used the SB3 DAC. So back to the question - can the SB3 feed a digital output to a USB DAC ? -- liffy99 liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38117 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
liffy99;224628 Wrote: Quality is the paramount issue for me and for that reason I've not used the SB3 DAC. So back to the question - can the SB3 feed a digital output to a USB DAC ? You appear to be assuming that the external DAC will outperform the SB3...why? Have you listened to it or do you just assume that that is correct? Anyway, the perceived quality will be 95% speakers, 4% amp and 1% dac...oh, and 100% room correction! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38117 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
liffy99 wrote: Quality is the paramount issue for me and for that reason I've not used the SB3 DAC. So back to the question - can the SB3 feed a digital output to a USB DAC ? Have you looked at a SB3? Do you see a place to plug in a USB cable? Also, what makes you think that a USB DAC will sound better? ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
barty;224613 Wrote: Hey harmonic - If you don't have anything useful to add to the discussion - just hold your tongue. I for one have had both a Modwright-modded CD player as well as his SWL 9.0 preamp. Both VERY good. I have no doubt that he will make real improvements on the sound of the Transporter. For some it will be worth it. For those than immediately downplay the effect (for the good) of tubes in a system just haven't heard it implemented well. No audiophile speak here... To many, they just sound more natural or real Fair enough - if you like the sound of tubes (and many do) that's great. But...not everyone does (apart from guitar players)and too many tubes can over egg the cake. Please don't refer to this as an improvement - it is an effect or treatment. There's nothing wrong with that. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
tomjtx;224617 Wrote: It is probably safe to say the modwright TP will sound different because it uses tubes. whether or not it sounds better is a matter of preference . If you prefer tubes you might think it is better , if you prefer SS you might not like the mods. As one poster pointed out, why not try a tube premp. One could also try a tube buffer like the Musical Fidelity for much less money. I am not knocking modwright, they have an excellent rep and design their own, well regarded tube gear. Harmonic, you should learn Spanish before you go off half cocked and embarass yourself again. Ilusion means hope as well as illusion. The saying could describe the audiophile condition. As soon as we hear one improvement we want to hear another and we hope to achieve that one way or the other. The ilusion side would be our ability to fool ourselves into thinking a difference exists when ,in fact, it might not. I can overlook your mispelling because english is not your 1st language and it is easy to mispell in english even when it is your first language :-) I find it harder to overlook your inability to form a coherent thought and your subsequent lapse into name calling. Its really very simple can or can you not improve the preformans of a hifi component ?. You seem to take great pride in ripping apart what im saying . In demark the phenomenon has a name its called Anti democrazy , i have studid democracy . Its very bad for progress you see . But the thread is about moddifing the transporter, not about how the mind can play tricks on you . Eny audiophil worth his salt knows this very well, and know have it works, why keep talking about it. Why dont you demo a reference audio mods transporter vs you stock one also ? -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates
2 Just making this post at least 10 cahracters. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advance Acoustic Amp
I saw this amp in HiFi Choice and wondered if anyone here has any experience of them? http://www.advance-acoustic.com/en-product.php?id=25 It is listed as 100W with a built in 24-bit/192Khz DAC and seems to cost around £599.00 which make it very useful when teamed up with an SB3. -- Moko Moko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10987 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38125 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
why is it always that my threads turn out into battles? guys - PLEASE - this thread is only about modding the transporter and what you people think about the sound of it after the modification. I want to hear voices of people who really for instance heard tube components of modwright before. Or can recommend any other good modded TP. I don't want any off-topic talk - please! thank you. the transporter is awesome - no doubt. but I surely believe that someone can even raise the bar. the one-box solution must be kept, at least in my case. -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver Interconnects | REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP | REDGUM LS Cable | BW Nautilus 802 D | Live musicians at the end of my room! truckfighters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
truckfighters;224651 Wrote: why is it always that my threads turn out into battles? guys - PLEASE - this thread is only about modding the transporter and what you people think about the sound of it after the modification. I want to hear voices of people who really for instance heard tube components of modwright before. Or can recommend any other good modded TP. I don't want any off-topic talk - please! thank you. the transporter is awesome - no doubt. but I surely believe that someone can even raise the bar. the one-box solution must be kept, at least in my case. Raise the bar in what respect? As a digital source it's already great. Strapping a couple of triodes across the output stage isn't going to transform it beyond all recognition. IF I were you I'd focus on spending some serious money on speakers and room correction - that will give you a MUCH bigger bang for your buck! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
truckfighters;224651 Wrote: why is it always that my threads turn out into battles? Why did you post here, then? The mod was only announced within the last couple of days, so it's not likely that anyone has heard the results. Post to AudioCircle if you want fanboy opinions from pretend audiophiles that have no ears. All the reviews will be positive, everyone will love having spent the money, blah, blah, blah. There will be a waiting list for the mod, so reserve your spot now. In 3 months there will be a Mark II (Deluxe, Gold, Platinum, Ultimate) version of the mod that the modder (even if he says so himself) is far superior. But don't despair, you can send your recently modded unit back to him for the new mod, which will almost certainly be bettered in another three months by the Mark III mods. It's always the same. Everyone is happy happy. It's totally mind boggling. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
truckfighters wrote: why is it always that my threads turn out into battles? guys - PLEASE - this thread is only about modding the transporter and what you people think about the sound of it after the modification. I want to hear voices of people who really for instance heard tube components of modwright before. Or can recommend any other good modded TP. You can just listen for any postings if anyone springs for the mod. The comments seem to be saying that it makes little sense to other Audiophiles. Which is weird itself, since audiophiles go for some really strange things. Mega dollar cables, magic rocks to hold cables, etc. are accepted in the audiophile world, so something that makes little sense would raise flags for me. The modwright hack will clearly change the sound, whether it is good or bad is a personal question, its an effect, and no other person except you an say whether or not it is a good/pleasing effect. Even if someone had it and loved it, that would not be good enough to make me run out to get it. The advantage of a tube buffer/preamp is that it won't destroy your $2000 US Transporter, which is a £2000 item in the UK. While folks who love the new sound will not call it 'destroy', if you don't like it, you are not only out the $2000 for the mod, you are out the 2K for the original transporter. It might be a very good mod, but I'd be amazed if they sell more than five of them before the Transporter is replaced by something cooler and more powerful. I don't see any point in asking the forum for only experience with it. YMMV, etc. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
Wow - why all the questions ? I've tried the SB3 DAC and it didn't come close to my Lyngdorf (unsurprising given the cost differential). Don't know yet how good the one in the Kingrex is. But whatever fidelity is on offer I just want to know if there is a away of linking the SPDIF output of the SB3 to a USB input DAC. All the converters I've seen advertised talk about USB to SPDIF, not the other way around. I really don't want to get into discussions about relative benefits of the SB3 DAC v others. This is just a straight question of mechanics; Can I connect the SB3 SPDIF to a USB input somehow ? Cheers -- liffy99 liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38117 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
I think this will be my last post on this forum , its turned very cynical. The very point about moddifing audio components is that its here you can get real improvments, cables platforms and so on will only make the sound dufferent. Have do a company improve a component ? the moddifiy it . -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
harmonic;224660 Wrote: I think this will be my last post on this forum , its turned very cynical. The very point about moddifing audio components is that its here you can get real improvments, cables platforms and so on will only make the sound dufferent. Have do a company improve a component ? the moddifiy it . There are so many logical flaws in the above post that it is almost self refuting:-) Harmonic, I think you will enjoy AC. You should find others of your mind set who won't challenge you to think clearly. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
liffy99 wrote: Wow - why all the questions ? Can I connect the SB3 SPDIF to a USB input somehow ? Again, do you see a USB connection on the SB3? If not, then you can't do it without some sort of convertor/adaptor. Can you do it somehow? Of course, but how may get complex, and may not be worth the effort. If you get a DAC like the Benchmark DAC-1, you can use either BNC or Toslink, and skip all the USB nonsense. The SB is a Slim Device. It is not a general purpose computer. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
The very point about moddifing audio components is that its here you can get real improvments, cables platforms and so on will only make the sound different. Those that have been exposed to mods done right will have a hard time coping with some of the skeeptics in here. Have do a company improve a component ? the moddifiy it in house. This thread has no menning because every thing will be shot down with cynical comments based apone no real or very limited knowledge on the subject. I thing im done on this forum eny thing that have just the slightes to do with improving sound seem to be like blasfami. -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
tomjtx;224662 Wrote: There are so many logical flaws in the above post that it is almost self refuting:-) Harmonic, I think you will enjoy AC. You should find others of your mind set who won't challenge you to think clearly. Logical flaws pleas explain ? You like to provoke i see its nice sitting safe infront of you screen pissing people of. -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
harmonic wrote: Logical flaws pleas explain ? I am not tomjtx, I didn't write it, but you seem to have the concepts of 'improvement' confused with 'change'. It is trivial to change/modify a component and make the sound change. That is not at all the same as an improvement. Some improvements stand up to hard engineering, involving frequency response, phase distortion, etc. Some are more subjective, and cover qualities that engineers can't measure. If there are no measured improvements, you have to work a whole lot harder to convince people that your change is an improvement. When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind. It may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts, advanced to the stage of science. Popular Lectures and Addresses, Lord (William Thompson) Kelvin. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
I have no experience with tube sound yet. You are correct, it is really silly to send a TP to the US and have it ripped apart - no way back then. Don't get me wrong. I love the transporter for it's functionality and the sound (+ of course the looks :). I can listen for hours and days without getting tired of the sound. It is really involving but still I would like it to be a bit more on the warm side of sound. I don't understand why the tube modded TP should be cut in it's frequenzy response range. There is a modwright tube preamp with these specs: Tube Complement: (2) 5687 tubes. Gain: ~15dB. Input Impedance: 50Kohm. Output Impedance: ~600ohm. Frequency Response: 17Hz 100Khz +/-1dB Noise Level: -122dB. noise level and the response range is fairly decent I would say (although I haven't seen any curve...) why I started this thread? I thought some of you might be interested. I have read a lot about the SB+ and other SB mods and I think there is no doubt about it, that the SB could be or was already greatly improved. So why shouldn't this be possible for the TP? -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver Interconnects | REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP | REDGUM LS Cable | BW Nautilus 802 D | Live musicians at the end of my room! truckfighters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
Pat Farrell;224669 Wrote: harmonic wrote: Logical flaws pleas explain ? I am not tomjtx, I didn't write it, but you seem to have the concepts of 'improvement' confused with 'change'. It is trivial to change/modify a component and make the sound change. That is not at all the same as an improvement. Some improvements stand up to hard engineering, involving frequency response, phase distortion, etc. Some are more subjective, and cover qualities that engineers can't measure. If there are no measured improvements, you have to work a whole lot harder to convince people that your change is an improvement. When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind. It may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts, advanced to the stage of science. Popular Lectures and Addresses, Lord (William Thompson) Kelvin. Hmmm okay Well i dont mean change the word change is when you comepare cables removing glare and glassyness resulting in more real sound is and improvment. Audio is tricky Som people dont hear improvments with enything , not even even roomcorrection . Some mods can be measrued like noise. My point is saying that you can not improve the sound of the transporter is like saying you cant improve the sound of a digital source . -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
No one has said the TP couldn't be improved. It may have been said it's unlikely. Some, me included, think that it represents current SOTA and it would take a lot of time and solid engineering to possibly improve on it. The improvment would likely be small and I would be skeptical that a modder would be able to do that. ModWright has had the TP only for a few months. He made an offer that the 1st to send him a TP would get the mods a 1/2 price. I think this was about 3 months ago. Dan of modwright will do a great job of producing the modwright tube sound in the TP and, if you like that. it will be worth the money. But this is not an improvement, It is a coloration. That is fine, but let's be clear with our language. His TP will be different and if that sonic signature appeals to you, great. But it is not an improvement, it is not better, just different. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
truckfighters;224488 Wrote: hi there, as some might remember, my first thread about good transporter MODS turned out into something nobody wanted. I'm having a bad case of deja vu here. truckfighters;224488 Wrote: the earlier mentioned tube stage mod for transporter is available now so I am pretty much wondering if anybody living in the us will be able to hear it / buy it soon and might post some findings. since I live in germany, I would be quite happy to hear some reviews before I send my transporter to the US for having it modded by modwright. I think it's great you're taking a cautious approach before sending your TP anywhere. You might find that you might get more improvement if you spent your hard-earned money in other areas. e.g. room, loudspeakers, room correction and if they are all sorted, amplification. The Audio Critic guys have made my blood boil on so many occasions. But the more I learn, the more I head *toward* their way of thinking. I can see you don't lean that way, so I'm not going to criticise. But I will share my own thoughts, and maybe it will help. :-) For example, I wondered at one time why the pro audio industry likes active loudspeakers. Was it for the convenience of amp and speaker in the same package? Wrong. Active amplification is normally bi-amped or tri-amped. That means you have line-level or digital cross-overs which work better than one amp trying to drive a complex, difficult load (classic hi-fi loudspeaker with crossovers). Why spend $100k on a system designed on flawed principles? Isn't it best to get the architecture right first? I wondered why the pro-audio wasn't afraid to use correction like room correction or equalisation (once they have optimised the listening space as much as possible). Was it because they were lazy and didn't have equipment with tonal accuracy like hi-end gear? Wrong. It's because a flat frequency response is one of the totally necessary ingredients of accurate reproduction! A lot of what we do in high-end doesn't make sense. I decided to take a step back and re-evaluate the big picture. I am still doing my research, which is why I have spent no significant money on my bad hi-fi habit lately. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 - Sony DAS-703ES DAC - Krell KAV-300i - PMC AB-1 (home-made room treatments and supports) darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
Whoa! There for a minute I thought for sure I was reading AC... Mods are what they are... they modify the equipment, they modify the sound, they modify your wallet. In my experience, generally all for the better. Are mods cost-effective? Not often. If/when you sell, you rarely get a reasonable return on your investment. But mods can make a very positive difference and ain't that what this hobby is all about? If you're looking at Transporter mods, also consider Aberdeen. In my experience, albeit not with the Transporter itself, Anthony can work magic with his mods. -- mdconnelly Mike mdconnelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
One problem I see here is that too many of you who are quick to poo-poo mods are holding up the stock Transporter sound as something sacred and/or correct. All it is is the house sound. It's what Slim Devices came up with at their price/profit point. I have one. It is an excellent neutral sound. For the tube naysayers, I'm betting you've never lived with a good modern tube rig. It's many people's natural instinct to feel it is antiquated technology. But with modern capacitors and transformers, tube amps can be world-class with none of the faults associated with early designs. Remember, the tube is still one of the most linear amplification devices known and is still used in numerous military and satellite technologies. And believe me, they don't use them because they sound warm As for the measurement crowd, all I can say is if you can hear a difference and you can't measure it, then you're measuring the wrong thing. -- barty barty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
barty wrote: For the tube naysayers, I haven't noticed any tube naysayers. Specifically, I haven't seen anyone say that tubes are good or bad, just that they are colored. But with modern capacitors and transformers, tube amps can be world-class with none of the faults associated with early designs. Remember, the tube is still one of the most linear amplification devices known and is still used in numerous military and satellite technologies. Satellite in space? Love a cite. Weight is critical in space, much more so than even size. Tubes are big, the trannies are huge and heavy. The military uses them because they don't suffer the same susceptibility to disruption in the case of a nuclear blast's EMI. Good audio transformers are really expensive, easily near $100 each cost, which turns into a grand per channel retail cost. Good tube rigs can sound wonderful, but just because it has a tube or two, does not mean that sounds good. Causality again. There is little chance that a $1000 stereo tube amp is anything close to linear over 20-20kHz. The pro audio world is flooded with low end preamps and effects that are all digital with a 12ax7 added to make it sound like ideal tubes. Doesn't happen, but does sell a lot of gear. As for the measurement crowd, all I can say is if you can hear a difference and you can't measure it, then you're measuring the wrong thing. I sort of agree with this. But the problem is that no one can show the engineers what to measure that makes the sound change. And it has to be causal to be believed, not accidental. I do agree that there can be things that impact sound that are currently not measured. In general, engineers build test tools to measure what they believe are important metrics. What is measured changes as the engineers get more knowledgeable. This is why I posted the quote from Lord Kelvin, who the scientific community named the temperature scale for. In the 70s, all receivers measured the same, and so all the magazine reviewers said they all sounded the same. It nearly killed HiFi. It is fairly clear now that intermodulation distortion at frequencies above the standard 20-20kHz can have audible impact in the audible range. It wasn't measured in the last century. Of course, there was next to no signal up there, all the mics, preamps, tape recorders, etc. were bandpass limited. And most of the equalization used in studios really trashes phase relationships. We are just now learning how to measure the impact of phase. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Musical Fidelity A3.5 Integrated MF X-10V3 Tube Buffer PS Audio Digital Link III DAC Audio Physic Sparks mkIV Not seen: (1) PS Audio Quintet Power Center and Statement Cord for system (2) custom linear PS for Squeeze inside a PC power supply hidden behind the CDs. (3) Rel Q108 under a chair in the corner You can ignore the hand-me-down TV and DVD; I do. +---+ |Filename: Whole Setup.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3236| +---+ -- mark-e-mark mark-e-mark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
barty;224693 Wrote: For the tube naysayers, I'm betting you've never lived with a good modern tube rig. It's many people's natural instinct to feel it is antiquated technology. But with modern capacitors and transformers, tube amps can be world-class with none of the faults associated with early designs. Remember, the tube is still one of the most linear amplification devices known and is still used in numerous military and satellite technologies. And believe me, they don't use them because they sound warm You're right, it's not because they sound warm. It's because they're resistant to the electromagnetic pulse that results from a a nuclear attack. So if you value maximum survivability in your hifi, good argument. Although radiation sickness does tend to decrease enjoyment of just about anything... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
Pat, I think that saying tubes color the sound is rather pejorative in the audiophile world. Tubes sound different. I'll back down from saying better, because that is in the ear of the listener. I'll counter that transistors sound colored to me because they don't reproduce the sound of natural materials (woodwinds, guitars etc.) as well as well-designed tube amps. Also, this being an audiophile forum, the cost and weight of materials such as transformers is really secondary to achieving great sound. Read up on travelling wave tube amplifiers and their use. I am certainly no expert, but I don't believe immunity from electromagnetic pulses is the only reason why tubes have persisted in these applications. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1985RCARv..46..484W Now right back atcha, do you have a citation for your assertion that there are no linear tube amps under $1000? As for Pro Audio, you can throw away your Sweetwater or AMS catalog. Every serious studio is using tube microphones and preamps. Not because they distort nice like a guitar amp circuit but because they sound best. Back to the Transporter mod issue, though, I won't be modding mine any time soon because I am happy with the sound. Going through my tube rig. -- barty barty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38106 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter MODS - Part II
barty wrote: I think that saying tubes color the sound is rather pejorative in the audiophile world. Tubes sound different. I'll back down from saying better, because that is in the ear of the listener. I'll counter that transistors sound colored to me because they don't reproduce the sound of natural materials (woodwinds, guitars etc.) as well as well-designed tube amps. Also, this being an audiophile forum, the cost and weight of materials such as transformers is really secondary to achieving great sound. Agree that in the home, the weight is not important. In satellites, it sure is. The problem with cost is that you have to make trade-offs. Would you rather have 200 more CD's? or a component that costs $2000 more? Its not for me to decide for you, but its a real world constraint. Except for the folks who love the stuff reviewed in The Absolute Sound, where $50K for speakers is not high end. The recording and reproduction of acoustic guitars is a real challenge. On this, I agree with TAS' stated goal, sound of real instruments in real rooms. But most of what I listen to is jazz, bluegrass, folk, and vocals, which are really not intended to be realistic as a chamber group is. Now right back atcha, do you have a citation for your assertion that there are no linear tube amps under $1000? Not handy. But look at any Stereophile review, and you'll see lots of roll off at both ends. Folks like tube amps tend to match them with horns or other very efficient speakers. And they tend to not listen to pipe organ works. Look at the real prices for serious tube amps, Conrad Johnson, McIntosh, etc. They are way over a grand. I'm not saying folks can't like, enjoy or prefer the sound of a $1000 Chinese tube amp. They can sound very nice. But they are not linear. As for Pro Audio, you can throw away your Sweetwater or AMS catalog. Every serious studio is using tube microphones and preamps. Not because they distort nice like a guitar amp circuit but because they sound best. Sorry, don't agree. First, serious studios tend to have SSL or Neve consoles. the first two letters in SSL stands for Solid State. Neve channels are discrete transistors. Tube mics, like the Neumann M50, M49, etc. are colored. They sound best for some tracks, but they are not accurate. There is no standard studio setup, the engineer and producer decide what they want it to sound like. The most popular serious mic is probably the Neumann U87, which is not a tube mic. Actually, a lot of recording is done with dymanic and ribbon mics, in addition to all the small and large diameter condenser mics. A huge number of tracks are recorded using Shure SM57 mics, which cost $80 retail. They are not advertised and have no sex appeal for the pro audio folks, but they actually are widely used. Nearly every photo of a talk radio host shows him/her with a EV RE20 mic. Dymanic, costs about $600. You have to think that Rush and others can afford anything they want. They don't use tubed mics. It is very dangerous to make broad statements such as Every serious studio is using tube microphones and preamps. First, I know it is not true in every professional studio that I've been in, so counter examples are trivial and disprove your claim. Second, it would be impossible to prove as you state it. You'd have to visit every studio. Not going to happen. Its a logic fallacy waiting to be crushed. Back to the Transporter mod issue, though, I won't be modding mine any time soon because I am happy with the sound. Going through my tube rig. Which as I stated way up thread, makes more sense to me. You can use your tube amp/pre, and keep the Transporter intact. If you decide you don't like the Transporter, or need the Transporter 3, it will have a much higher resale value if it hasn't been modified. But its a personal decision, forum opinions can't help such a decision. I'd rather have 200 more CDs. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into USB DAC ?
No you can't connect them. I'm not aware of any device (other than a computer) that you could use to go from SPDIF-USB. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38117 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
