Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sony HAP-Z1ES

2013-10-27 Thread gizek

I second that. They state that even MP3 files will be up sampled to DSD
resolution retrieving any details missing in former format. Putting
aside marketing and greed I would say this is nothing new. Slimdevices
came with that idea ages ago introducing Transporter and I am only
surprised that it took so long for others comprehend the value of such
devices. If Slimdevices or Logitech later had continued development and
overall trend, it would have been a great success and many followers
(us) would be happier than ever. I suspect they would end up in holding
a big chunk of the market, similarly to Apple OSX computers now. Let it
be a no surprise to you when Apple next comes with some nice streamers
:-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?

2012-04-14 Thread gizek

If they can't make a DAC you like, then make one yourself.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ripping Vinyl Experiences

2012-01-26 Thread gizek

Mnyb;686581 Wrote: 
 The idea is to always record at for example 24/96/88.2 do all post
 processing you feel it need 

Second that. 
I listen to vinyl not very often but only for the reason of not
excessive usage of stylus and record itself ;-)
Got recently some valuable records which needed to be digitally
immortalized. For cleaning I use cheapest dish liquid and hot distilled
water. Then goes the Technics 1200 MKII with  Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge
right into Pearl Phono Stage. Recording is usually made by field
recorder at 24/96 through line input. Post processing, crackle removal
etc. done in Sound Forge. 
Now, I found that some alcohol based cleaners increase background noise
- checked that many times, comparing recordings in Sound Forge.
I did not notice any difference among several recorders doing A/D
process. However I always kept them powered by batteries, not external
power supply. Worst sounding turns out to be computer with sound card
input. This is a digitizing process but I would use it in the least
amount needed.   
Also do not underestimate the phono stage. IMO this is, right with
turntable, the most important piece. My diy, all discrete, with passive
equalization Pearl, has very smooth RIAA curve and it really sounds.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-11-28 Thread gizek

Norderney,

Audiomuze is right. I use Touch as digital transport only. 
Logitech Transporter is a very fine audio piece and it's been
entertaining me for some time. If it was the last dac I had I would
live with it. However, we all have the choice and I have always felt
that it did not provide sufficient level of musical performance. Since
diy audio is one of my hobbies, I ruthlessly compared Transporter to
some of my DAC projects. Last one completely changed my mind and I
never looked back at Transporter again.

As always Happy Listening :-)




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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-11-28 Thread gizek

JJZolx

No such question was asked here but if you insist... :-)
After realizing the fact that my current dac sounds better enough to
make decision to sell either Touch or Transporter, I did comparison
which of them is better as digital source. Obviously, taking into
account finances and  other users' opinion, that's easy verdict.
However to have a peace of mind, I went ahead and play. Result? Putting
away all technical aspects and measurements, it is all about music and
emotional experience, Transporter is a better source. Now, my question
arises. Is it better enough to justify the price difference ? IMO,
absolutely not. That's why I did stick to Touch and save some bucks.
Never tried Transporter that way but I use Touch with extracted I2S fed
to dac and that is whole another story... :-)   
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-11-28 Thread gizek

Sorry, I must have misunderstood :-)
Thought question was Why did you switch from Transporter to SB
Touch?
I did not stated before above question, that Transporter was used only
as digital source in my system.
Anyway, let's put this aside and enjoy our music :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?

2011-11-05 Thread gizek

Not sure what policy guy has on returns but you could give it a try.
Looks very decent. It may be the one you're looking for :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?

2011-11-02 Thread gizek

Looks better inside for sure. Any reviews on sound quality ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?

2011-11-01 Thread gizek

Ask yourself a question if you know what you're looking for. What kind
of sonic signature you like ? If you enjoy your Touch, why bother to
upgrade. 
I like my DAC because IMO it has a perfect signature. It's a liquid,
mellow/relaxing, sweet highs, very nice lows. All that with great
resolution and multilayered soundstage. Most of all it is musical and
involving, you could listen to it for hours and hours. Additionally it
can drive headphones with ease.
Send email to Spencer. He is the one from fetaudio website. Ask what
other people who bought his dac, think about it :-)
I'm going to jump on another kit to make my dac fully balanced.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?

2011-10-31 Thread gizek

With all due respect but the dac you did mention, in terms of
implementation and output stage design, is not even close to the one I
got. I think that money, you were to spend on this, would be not wisely
spent.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?

2011-10-30 Thread gizek

I just repeat myself here from other post and say that I strongly
recommend one of the diy units. If you're handy with soldering iron
there is no other way.
I went through range of commercial dacs including Transporter, Minimax,
Benchmark, Audio GD, Northstar Design, Weiss and some I don't remember
names of. Always there was something keeping me off those units, either
sonic performance or high price. Sure it is a matter of personal taste
but what I recently got for $175, blew away everything I have heard so
far.
This is a dac kit based on PCM1794 and extremely good class-A output
stage - all discrete, paper-in-oil coupling capacitors, Vishay
resistors etc. All high quality components.
Take a look here.

http://www.fetaudio.com/

No affiliation whatsoever. Just to let you know that you don't have to
pay $2000 or more for dac done right.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?

2011-10-30 Thread gizek

Yes, in my opinion, it is really so good but always mind your taste.
Moreover I think that, nowadays, majority of the dacs are made to look
good on papers (good spec). Musicality factor is really underestimated
and omitted factor in manufacturing audio equipment. 
Speaking of this particular diy dac, you would need a case and some
inner guts to get it work. I don't care about look because my unit is
hidden behind the Touch which was hacked to provide I2S signal. Pure
joy of listening !


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dac for SBT

2011-10-29 Thread gizek

Darren,

How are your soldering skills ?
I strongly recommend one of the diy units.
I went through range of commercial dacs including Transporter, Minimax,
Benchmark, Audio GD, Northstar Design, Weiss and some I don't remember
names of. Always there was something keeping me off those units, either
sonic performance or high price. Sure it is a matter of personal taste
but what I recently got for $175, blew away everything I have heard so
far. 
This is a dac kit based on PCM1794 and extremely good class-A output
stage - all discrete, paper-in-oil coupling capacitors, Vishay
resistors etc. All high quality components. 
Take a look here.  

http://www.fetaudio.com/   

No affiliation whatsoever. Just to let you know that you don't have to
pay $2000 or more for dac done right.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1900 euros + tax for digital upgrade and power supply for Duet

2011-10-03 Thread gizek

darrenyeats;660848 Wrote: 
  ... Are you getting the picture - have you figured it out yet? This
 isn't really about the Benchmark...
 

I like this one and I totally agree. This isn't about Benchmark. This
isn't even about any piece of audio equipment. Statement, that
Benchmark sounds bright and edgy, says almost absolutely nothing about
Benchmark but it says a bit about person who gives such statement. 
This is all about us - audiofools ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-07-21 Thread gizek

Look at my signature :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-07-20 Thread gizek

Sold !


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-07-17 Thread gizek

Moderator: please delete this post if it violates the rules of the forum

For sale Logitech Transporter in mint condition. This is original, not
SE version. No issues since day one. Original double box and manual -
all complete. Additionally I throw a pair of Anti-cables, 8 feet
terminated with bananas. Price of $999 includes Paypal and shipping to
lower USA.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2011-07-17 Thread gizek

Thanks for pointing this out - accordingly edited :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Price of a 2nd-hand Transporter ?

2011-06-02 Thread gizek

Linn is a pretty device outside and inside too, take a look
But I still prefer my Transporter and its software and hardware
flexibility.
Never had a chance to listen to Linn though.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For the audiophile who has everything...

2011-03-24 Thread gizek

This is just a plain stupid. There is only one thing more stupid - to
buy it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-10 Thread gizek

Friend of mine told me quite interesting story. He was born in Austria
in the early 1930's and as a little boy he used to watch his father at
work. Man was manufacturing the violins. For years whole family was in
contact with music and musicians but before war's end, they emigrated
to USA. Here his father continued the work on instruments and my friend
decided to go that way as well. This was rather side job nevertheless he
learnt some tricks to make violin, especially the new one to sound
right. After the violin was made and ready to go, they put it inside
the cardboard or thin walled wooden box by hanging the instrument on
the line or the rope on both ends so it did not touch anything. Next
they placed speaker very close to the instrument and for a long time
played...violin music. That took place when electric equipment for
music reproduction was available, way before they simply played real
violin for hours to freshly made ones.
Of course this smells like audiophool snake oil so intrigued and very
doubtful I did ask about secret? He simply answered that this
techniques helps the new wood to learn how to properly resonate and be
more musical.  

Now, in my opinion man deserves huge respect since he played those
instruments since he was 5 and spent countless hours manufacturing
them. Nowadays he's over 80 and still has damn good ear.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Service Manual Transporter

2011-02-21 Thread gizek

My personal advice - do not do that ! If you don't like the sound, look
for other things in your audio system to improve before jumping on
Transporter. 
If you posses the knowledge to mod anything you don't really need
service manual. Transporter's layout is pretty straightforward.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] If you can hear it, can you measure it?

2011-02-17 Thread gizek

You could laugh me out but sometimes I ask my wife about or use my cat
to determine whether my system reproduces the sound with some reality
to it or not. I play some high quality nature sounds like birds etc.
and observe reaction of the cat. It's done every time when something is
changed in the system, either wiring, or components. Placement of the
speakers doesn't matter really. Every test is conducted  while the cat
is more or less in the same state so I could eliminate factors
influencing her judgment. It works every time and my wife's verdict in
99% agrees with cat's.
Being very subjective I stopped believing my ears long time ago.
Nowadays I prefer to listen to the music rather than analyze frequency
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] If you can hear it, can you measure it?

2011-02-14 Thread gizek

As it was said, our brain is under the constant influence of the
countless factors manipulating our experience of hearing. We simply
can't hear with only our eardrums. If that was possible, I think, we
would be able to hear very objectively and measure real changes in
the sound. Unfortunately or not, our hearing sense is much more complex
since signals from eardrum are processed within our brain where they are
mixed with other data. Try to listen to some audiophile quality music
while there is strong light directed into your eyes or you're in the
dead freezing temperature... I guess you got my point. No device will
measure what you feel.

Now, what about things you can measure but you can't hear ? Even my
cheap oscilloscope can register some electromagnetic changes of the
interconnects while they move up and down. I can't hear that in my
system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rebooting your audio system

2011-02-08 Thread gizek

 
 Others have pointed out that the improvement may have been the result
 of clean connections from unplugging  replugging cables. But it may
 have also been the culmination of various unconscious influences that
 day. Some you might be able to understand (getting your good sound
 back was a great relief) but other things might be more difficult to
 spot and sort. 
 

Very true indeed. Sometimes we need to reboot our audio systems, other
times it is our brain which needs resetting.
In my, over a quarter of the century long history of being audiophool,
I very often found myself improving audio system only to wake up the
next morning and set everything back to the original state. I try to
keep the idea of the music as fresh as possible, regularly visiting
local symphony and concerts. Yet, still it's very hard to obtain the
same, satisfying results in my listening room. It is never ending game
with countless number of changing rules. Making things worse, there is
some irony here,  through all of those years of ear training, I've
discover that my wive and my cat are much better listener than me in
the sense of being able to formulate better, objective
judgments(reactions) whether my system is capable of reproducing
natural sound or not.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rebooting your audio system

2011-02-07 Thread gizek

Believe or not, I reboot my system at leas twice a year and I could
swear it sounds better then. Dusting and resetting components, cleaning
connectors, taking apart those rat nests of wires, properly rerouting
them, and probably ten other things you can do, makes my system sound
better and cleaner, at least in my brain...:-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter $999

2011-02-05 Thread gizek

Confirmed !


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WTB Transporter black

2011-02-05 Thread gizek

... and pay no tax... :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is a Transporter SE?

2011-01-17 Thread gizek

Don't know about you guys but I'm totally confused here.
Someone please explain. 
What exactly does new Transporter SE lack ?
Is it only the front knob. If yes, then that was one damn expensive
aluminum knob if Logitech was charging additional $500 selling regular
Transporter for $2K.

What about functionality of the front panel buttons ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone needs new Transporter ???

2010-10-06 Thread gizek

I guess it goes on Audiogon.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone needs new Transporter ???

2010-10-03 Thread gizek

Up for your consideration.

I have recently acquired my second Transporter from here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150490561556ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Now I have two units. Second one bought for spare parts :-)
Also now, my wife wants me to choose between her and the second
Transporter. I chose my wife - Transporter is easier to sell ;-)

Unit is brand new old stock. It comes in original, slightly beat up
from moving, Slim Devices box.
I opened it to verify the content and check working and cosmetic
condition. Front logo says Transporter and after powering up display
shows Slim Devices, not Logitech - rare thing nowadays. Everything
is as should be - brand new. To perform test, firmware was upgraded to
latest ver 80.

I made an offer to the Ebay seller and got Transporter for $1300
shipped.
This is what I would like to get back. I'm in Orange County,
California.

If anyone interested, PM me.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter?

2010-09-27 Thread gizek

Up for your consideration.

I have recently acquired Transporter from here: 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150490561556ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Now I have two units. Second one bought for spare parts :-)
Also now, my wife wants me to choose between her and Transporter.
I chose my wife - Transporter is easier to sell ;-)

Unit is new old stock. It comes in original, slightly beat up from
moving, Slimdevices box.
I opened it to verify the content and check working and cosmetic
condition. Front logo says Transporter and after powering up display
shows Slimdevices, not Logitech - rare thing nowadays. Everything
is as should be. Unit is brand new. To perform test, firmware was
upgraded to latest ver 80. 

I made an offer to the seller and got Transporter for $1300 shipped.   

This is what I would like to get back. I'm in Orange County,
California.

If anyone interested, PM me.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter?

2010-09-23 Thread gizek

:-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-12 Thread gizek

Wow ! That's the spirit. 
Bye, bye mechanical switch, welcome software freedom. 
Can't wait to try beta firmware.

Thanks Andy


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-12 Thread gizek

... maybe it's in revision 31207 still under firmware 80..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-12 Thread gizek

Ok, disregard my 2 previous replies. 

Andy answered my question...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-12 Thread gizek

Wombat;568669 Wrote: 
 
 
 ...Believe me, my Transporter already gave me so much fun over the time
 i use it. This makes me play one more time with it. One of the rare toys
 i´ll remember till i die ;)


Wombat, nicely said. 
If developers could provide the new feature every now and then, they
would definitely make me to keep Transporter to the grave... 
Sometimes even the smallest sprinkle can make the difference in the
taste of an ice-cream... ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-11 Thread gizek

Yes, quite a story - CD player - bombastic :-) 

Going back to topic, I verified my doubt... 
AKM4396 pins, CSN, CCLK, CDTI are used in Transporter (see photo) for
the very simple reason like volume control. They go to Xilinx
controller chip. Apparently, we have problem here and we need to go
with different approach for switching slow-roll-off on. 

Any ideas with mux ? My Transporter is ready to go ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-10 Thread gizek

This sounds promising. 
Please enlighten us how to switch slow bit to 1 ;-). I guess it is the
one in D5 under 01H and it can be done only when chip is in serial
mode. Do we need to play with pins CSN, CCLK, CDTI ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Switching to slow rollof filter in AK4396

2010-08-10 Thread gizek

It can be done via software, of course, but you would need to implement
that option into Transporter's new firmware, and that will not
happen...
It doesn't seem to be a big task at all. Someone having SDK could do
that. 

... or you could use soldering iron and bite that problem from the
other side... ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-28 Thread gizek

I bet my network would hit 100 Gigabit with this one :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread gizek

there are some nasty spikes out there


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread gizek

Please try balanced configuration and let us know. Still not convinced
about that 60Hz and harmonic group spikes existence ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another Transporter that will not power up...

2010-05-07 Thread gizek

My experience says that usually refurb units are less prone to any
faults. 
Anyway... I wonder if there is a way to verify if Transporter is refurb
or not. I got one of those deals and so far, after 8 months, unit has
been behaving perfectly. On the other hand it's modified so can't tell
for sure what would happen if it was stock...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another Transporter that will not power up...

2010-05-06 Thread gizek

Happened once to my unit. It turned out to be the simplest reason ever.
I use power conditioner/surge protector with switchable power outlets.
Transporter outlet was off. 
Make sure to eliminate those simple glitches before going with your
investigation ;_)
I have also read somewhere about Transporter's stuck relays.
If you confident with multimeter you can measure AC inside unit. Be
careful those voltages could be lethal. Don't do it if you're not 100%
sure what you're doing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audiotests in menu of transporter

2009-12-16 Thread gizek

Yeap, it's kind of tricky one:

Put Transporter into setup mode - press and hold left arrow until you
see set up networking
Scroll down to:
Current settings  Factory Test  Audio Tests

Here you find some audio tones.

There is also hidden message under
Current Settings  Firmware info. 
Just press right arrow to reveal text.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Very very strange Transporter problem

2009-12-11 Thread gizek

I'm little surprised by the fact that Transporter cannot decompress on
the fly 24/96 flac files without any struggling. 

I admit I didn't conduct any test myself but maybe there is a chance
that my Transporter is able to do that without hickups :-).

I'm going to record some 24/96 files and put them through TR.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter loses sync with AES/EBU..

2009-12-11 Thread gizek

I wouldn't use AES/EBU digital out and I wouldn't be surprised to find
out that spidf works better. AES/EBU was really added here to meet some,
let's say, studio recording requirements but it's not better than good
S/PDIF. Don't follow here balanced analog output rule. 
If you can try BNC, that should be the best.
Wonder if you can hear any difference at all. Transporter has really
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter loses sync with AES/EBU..

2009-12-11 Thread gizek

I wish I could use Transporter with external DAC and find out if problem
is only limited to your equipment.

Did you switch Transporter off during your listening period with
external DAC? 

It may be that there is some kind of signal disturbance in your system
and that makes Transporter go south. Definitely something triggers TR to
switch to other output.

I'm not sure but since TR switches only to S/PDIF, having also optical
and BNC, that may be default setting.   

Don't worry, SPDIF is a slight modification of AES/EBU for consumer use
so connect your DAC to S/PDIF and enjoy music. :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good enough is the New Great

2009-12-10 Thread gizek

Guess, only effect counts...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The end of the CD player :-)

2009-12-04 Thread gizek

pfarrell;492347 Wrote: 
 
  
 the future is broadband.
 
 
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Amen 


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise

2009-12-01 Thread gizek

I can see no reason why Transporter is going to be out of production.
Some say it still has at least a year in front.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Well, this should be fun!

2009-11-26 Thread gizek

They did forget to mention, that this device should be used only in
total darkness. Any source of light creates beams of photons which
interact with molecules of air, disturbing propagation of acoustic
waves...   

Greed in almost perfect form.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The end of the CD player :-)

2009-11-23 Thread gizek

My CD player and all CD's collection died few months ago. Transporter
took their place. I'm sure I will never look back. Now I begin to
collect new things - high resolution music files, like those from
hdtracksdotcom. I wish I could split the cost with someone - just an
idea.
Right to Transporter there is special place for ...nice Dual, direct
drive turntable. Vinyl resides in soft place of my heart and I just
can't let that quality go away.
I never thought that I witness such a weird combination of technology
but I guess it's all about music. 
In my opinion, CD is at the edge of extinction.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The end of the CD player :-)

2009-11-23 Thread gizek

iPhone;488660 Wrote: 
 Red Book, DVD-A, or SACD? ;=}

Exactly
The only one from the holy trinity, Red Book, lived long enough
because of the simple fact of being first in bringing completely new
physical form of music. Not speaking of audio quality, it was quite
revolutionary. I think DVD-A or SACD are (were) its flavors to bring up
some quality. Who knows how long they would have existed and what
evolved into, if not the faster and faster development of technology.
Mix Internet, good audiophile, Squeezebox like player, with ability to
download or just directly listen to HD music and what's more to ask. Era
of music transport media, you could touch with your finger, just ends.


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