Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?
Gloria, Why don't you detail the information you have on your Carvalho in Hawaii. Where are they on the census in 1900? Why do think the Manuel dos Santos Carvalho on the Braunfels is the right person? I have researched a Carvalho family who arrived in Hawaii in 1912. They turned out to be from Braganca, Portugal. Eric Edgar On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Names can really get twisted around when people traveled to the US around the turn of the century. If you have the ship and when it arrived then the persons passport record is before that date. Some of the passport records say what ship they were leaving on and where they were going. Most people got their passport shortly before they traveled usually 1 day to a month is where you will find the most of them.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gloria Arlette Rodrigues *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:06 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? HI RICK, I HAVE LOOKED IN THE PASSPORTS AND FOUND MANUEL DOS SANTOS CARVALHO BUT THE NAME OF HIS WIFE AND 2 DAUGHTERS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE KNOW THE NAMES TO BE. IN PASSPORT APPLICATION, MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER (Manuel’s wife) Margarida de Ressureicao, daughters, Erminia and Rita. OUR FAMILY KNOWS THEM AS, WIFE; MARIA ROSA, DAUGHTERS, MARY AND MAGDALINA. SO THAT IS WHERE THE CONFUSION COMES IN. HOW CAN I FIND INFO. CAN I GET INFO FROM MY GRANDMOTHERS ALIEN CARD? THANK YOU RICK GLORIA Begin forwarded message: *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net *Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?* *Date: *August 4, 2015 at 2:19:53 PM PDT *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Reply-To: *azores@googlegroups.com *I take it you have a date and a ship name and need to look at the passenger list for the SS Braunfels. If they arrived at Ellis Island then it can be found on the Ellis Island website. Also is Manuel dos Santos Carvalho how his name appears on the ship index? In the passport records his name may be listed as Manuel Carvalho or Manuel dos Santos.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *suchislife55 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:54 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Cc:* Gloria Rodrigues *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? Would greatly appreciate any info!! My great grandfathers name Manuel dos Santos Carvalho is in ship index with wife and 3 children. One of the children was my grandmother. Trying to find more info on her parents and siblings besides the census. Tried numerous times searching the passport application from Ponta Delgada, Angra and Horta. Found Manuel dos Santos Carvalho (in Ponta Delgada passports) but the names with his is not my grandmother, her mother or siblings. Names are not even close to what we know. Would anybody know how I could get the S.S. Braunfels ship list of all names on that ship or is there another way I could find them? Just the other day my cousin was looking in her mothers box of papers and found my grandmothers ALIEN REGISTRATION RECEIPT CARD. Is there a way to find info with her alien card? It is a duplicate card and her birth year is wrong! She was called Maggie but birth name was Magdalina. Also, when requesting a death certificate would I use the death date that is on a headstone? I am attaching my grandmothers alien card Thank you Gloria file:///Users/gloriaarodrigues/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.52.05%20AM.png file:///Users/gloriaarodrigues/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.51.49%20AM.png -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1869 to 1873 Passenger lists from Azores to United States help
You will find a Manuel W Robert from Portiugal in Trinity county, Ca in !880 and a Manuel Robert in Humboldt county in 1900 from Portugal. A Frank Roberts in Siskyiou. There are dozens of Portuguese born who used the surname Roberts in California from 1880 -1930 It may be that the father in Flores had a first name of Roberto that got reflexed to the last name . On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea, The snippet does no good. Best to say you got it from the 1900 U.S. Federal Census in Sacramento, Sacramento Co, California for Joseph Roberts and let us hunt it down (for those with Ancestry subscriptions). This does NOT say that anyone was born in Flores. It says that the FATHER of Joseph Roberts was born in Flores. Weird that they specified one island and everything else they generalized. The 1880 for Euponia Twp in Lyon Co, KS (how in the world did some Portuguese people end up there???)...Joseph has a brother, Charles aka Carlos. If you can't find a lead on Joseph, go chase Charles/Carlos. I see a variety of immigration dates for these people. And naturalization. You really need to get that. A how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: http://goo.gl/13whta Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Andrea R andrea.re...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SlptK5nYB5I/Va8SqjUtjFI/Bkg/s07NPI2HlO4/s1600/2015-07-21%2B20_48_09-Ancestry.com%2B-%2B1900%2BUnited%2BStates%2BFederal%2BCensus.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SlptK5nYB5I/Va8SqjUtjFI/Bkg/s07NPI2HlO4/s1600/2015-07-21%2B20_48_09-Ancestry.com%2B-%2B1900%2BUnited%2BStates%2BFederal%2BCensus.jpg Thank you very much for looking, I feel like I keep hitting a wall! I was hoping that having a date would be helpful. The photo above is the 1900 census that mentions Flores, everything else says Portugal until a more recent census that says that ROSA and CLEMENTINA were born in the Azores. I believe they were married around 1867 I was hoping to see her name ROSA LIMA in the marriages or the daughter's name CLEMENTINA (born 1868) and figure out what the original surname was but have had no luck do far... On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 8:40:23 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: I know of many Rodericks who were Rodrigues in the Azores. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: I have not found any Roberto surnames in the Flores marriage book or the Familias do Lajes book I have not run into it in any other research on Flores before. Could be an Americanized version of Rodrigues. Eric Edgar On Jul 21, 2015 3:50 PM, Andrea R andrea...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I am new to this group and I am researching the following people (I only have the English names) Joseph Joaquim Roberts born 8 Jun 1848 or 1850 1900 census says born in Flores and immigrated in 1871 died in 1905 in Sacramento, CA but 1880 census shows living in Emporia, Kansas his wife Rosa Roberts - maiden name LIMA born 22 Feb 1851 or 1852 1900 census says only Azores and immigration 1872 death certificate shows father Frank (Francisco ?) Lima died in 1935 in San Francisco daughter Clementina Roberts born 23 Oct 1868 1900 census says only Azores and immigration 1872 died 1945 in San Francisco (married Lansfield) son Anthony Joseph Roberts born 5 Jan 1870 some places say Portugal and some say Boston, MA cannot find any records of birth - died in 1937 in San Francisco I searched Ancestry and many sites and could not find anything. I know few records are indexed and I tried searching the Azores reocrds on their site but haven't found anything yet. Was hoping to discover what the last name was originally. I have obtained all death certificates but they are vague. The only clue was Flores in the 1900 census. Thank you very much! This has been interesting as my family didn't even know they were from the Azores! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1869 to 1873 Passenger lists from Azores to United States help
I have not found any Roberto surnames in the Flores marriage book or the Familias do Lajes book I have not run into it in any other research on Flores before. Could be an Americanized version of Rodrigues. Eric Edgar On Jul 21, 2015 3:50 PM, Andrea R andrea.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I am new to this group and I am researching the following people (I only have the English names) Joseph Joaquim Roberts born 8 Jun 1848 or 1850 1900 census says born in Flores and immigrated in 1871 died in 1905 in Sacramento, CA but 1880 census shows living in Emporia, Kansas his wife Rosa Roberts - maiden name LIMA born 22 Feb 1851 or 1852 1900 census says only Azores and immigration 1872 death certificate shows father Frank (Francisco ?) Lima died in 1935 in San Francisco daughter Clementina Roberts born 23 Oct 1868 1900 census says only Azores and immigration 1872 died 1945 in San Francisco (married Lansfield) son Anthony Joseph Roberts born 5 Jan 1870 some places say Portugal and some say Boston, MA cannot find any records of birth - died in 1937 in San Francisco I searched Ancestry and many sites and could not find anything. I know few records are indexed and I tried searching the Azores reocrds on their site but haven't found anything yet. Was hoping to discover what the last name was originally. I have obtained all death certificates but they are vague. The only clue was Flores in the 1900 census. Thank you very much! This has been interesting as my family didn't even know they were from the Azores! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help first two lines of baptism please.
After the mothers name it says e de pai non sabido of father, name not known. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:47 PM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P19.html Top left for Manoel. I think it says, filho of Constancia de Jesus...no mention of father, yet no pai incognito either? Thanks! Lillian -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Post 1910 Church Records
Hank, I've connected with many Flores relatives in my research. One gave me copies of censuses from the Ponta Delgada area taken in 1915 and 1922. He said he got them from the local library there. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: After 1910, the Civil Registries have the records. They probably won't let you do searches. The same for the churches. It's really hard to work forward with the records. I've had limited luck on one ancestor on Sao Miguel. And it took a lot of pleading (but we had a time frame for her). Cheri On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Hank Cupper hcup...@comcast.net wrote: I’m traveling to Flores, my home island, in late August with my cousin Deanna. We hope to find other cousins still living there. Our direct ancestors left in 1880, but thanks to Cheri and Rosemarie’s super workshop in Salt Lake City I’ve now got a huge pre-1910 family tree. They were fertile and healthy! Does anyone have advice or tips about getting access to local church records in the islands? I have a contact in the village, but I don’t think she’s much of a church goer. Do I contact the priest directly? Or do I have to contact the diocese first? Or...?? If we can just bridge a generation or two I think we’ll find we’re related to just about everyone there! Hank Cupper -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Exposto Search and Surname
There seem to be certain churches that are a center of Exposto baptisms ( Lomba, Flores in my records) and that they tend to do large batches of them. In a Luz, Graciosa book, there were almost 60 in a row, with ages from a week to 4 years old. Sometimes the parent who is raising them is named in the document, but often not. In the case the parents are named, often padrinhos are named too. That could track the correct Alexandre from it's use on his marriage record. Naming is likely the priest's choice Eric On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:46 AM, lmy...@hughes.net lmy...@hughes.net wrote: I don't recall this being discussed before. My ancestor Alexandre Martins was an exposto. I have his marriage record and the baptismo record of his spouse. The marriage record indicates he was baptized at Se Cathedral in Angra, but no indication as to when or his age. I've been going through exposto baptisms for the period 1808 to 1817 at Se Cathedral. I admit the dates are arbitrary - I used his wife's baptism date (1817). There are only eight possibilities. Fortunately Alexandre is not that common of a name. Is there a way I can ascertain which one is mine? Does it have anything to do with the names in the side notes or godparents? Also, how does an exposto get a surname? I'd appreciate any help. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph F Ramos (Sao Miguel) + Rosa F Gomes (Fayal) Marriage -1879
Ill defer to Cheri. Im looking on a phone. Could be for da Conceico, less common for men, but seen before. On Flores , Coelho Ramos is seen. Eric On Jun 30, 2015 7:21 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Eric E, I'm going to disagree with you. It says Francisco da C. There are 2 other Ss on the page where it says September. That thing after Francisco isn't formed the same way as the initial letter in September. Alan F. will need to send the link to the entire image so others letters can be compared to that thing after Francisco da . Cheri On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:49 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I think the abbreviation may be Silva. Francisco da Silva Ramos from Sao Miguel. The wife is Rosa Gomes from Fayal, parents Antonio M Gomes ,Florinda. Eric E On Jun 30, 2015 6:34 PM, Alan Francis alanfranci...@gmail.com wrote: I just joined this group so forgive me if this is not an appropriate request. I found a marriage record for my great grandparents, I think. It seems my great grandfaher's surname was Ramos, not Francis. I am trying to verify this information. My problem is in trying to decipher the handwriting on the marriage record. I am not sure of the spelling of Ramos. Can anyone help me with this? I appreciate the help. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GngMQrNYxo8/VZMXj6KqscI/C20/7xbNLBayr-U/s1600/Ramos%2BHandwriting.jpg -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph F Ramos (Sao Miguel) + Rosa F Gomes (Fayal) Marriage -1879
This seems to be a Massachucetts marriage record. His father is Francisco and mother Victoria in this format. Eric Edgar On Jun 30, 2015 6:34 PM, Alan Francis alanfranci...@gmail.com wrote: I just joined this group so forgive me if this is not an appropriate request. I found a marriage record for my great grandparents, I think. It seems my great grandfaher's surname was Ramos, not Francis. I am trying to verify this information. My problem is in trying to decipher the handwriting on the marriage record. I am not sure of the spelling of Ramos. Can anyone help me with this? I appreciate the help. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GngMQrNYxo8/VZMXj6KqscI/C20/7xbNLBayr-U/s1600/Ramos%2BHandwriting.jpg -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph F Ramos (Sao Miguel) + Rosa F Gomes (Fayal) Marriage -1879
I think the abbreviation may be Silva. Francisco da Silva Ramos from Sao Miguel. The wife is Rosa Gomes from Fayal, parents Antonio M Gomes ,Florinda. Eric E On Jun 30, 2015 6:34 PM, Alan Francis alanfranci...@gmail.com wrote: I just joined this group so forgive me if this is not an appropriate request. I found a marriage record for my great grandparents, I think. It seems my great grandfaher's surname was Ramos, not Francis. I am trying to verify this information. My problem is in trying to decipher the handwriting on the marriage record. I am not sure of the spelling of Ramos. Can anyone help me with this? I appreciate the help. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GngMQrNYxo8/VZMXj6KqscI/C20/7xbNLBayr-U/s1600/Ramos%2BHandwriting.jpg -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
The Veronica is not listed as ever arriving in the US after her passport date. It arrived 31 Jul 1884, then does not show up again in records The next ship she could have been on was the Acoriana, then the Adelia The Anna da gloria Ferro that shows up in Ancestry ship list searches is from Santa Cruz , Flores Eric Edgar On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading Veronica for the ship. On Jun 7, 2015 2:23 PM, Kimberly Reeve kbear...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the link http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Monsebo (or Mancebo) Rodrigues, Flores to Hawaii
The Mancebo usually means the Younger. If Jose Rodrigues has a son, he would be known as Jose Rodrigues Mancebo to differentiate from his father. It is often seen applied to the first born son, when he is named for his father .It can become part of a surname. There is a family group in Lajes, Flores that has used the Rodrigues Mancebo surnames consistently for more than three generations Do you have any more info? a birthdate, death date , place of residence? Eric Edgar On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Gloria Rodrigues, suchislife55 at gmail.com Hi Debra, My name is Gloria Rodrigues. Started doing my genealogy about 8 months now. My great grandfather Joseph Monsebo Rodrigues (assuming his name was Jose Rodrigues Mancebo) went to Hawaii from Flores Island (late 1860's to early 1870's) on a whaling ship and jumped ship there. That is all we know! We found info on him in Hawaii (not much) but not have been able to trace him or family in Flores. Was wondering if you came across that name in your research. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Gloria email: suchis...@gmail.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verifying an unusual name: MARTINHO
There is a tradition of naming children on the Saint's day. November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, The first Martinho is baptised on the 16 Nov. The second on 6 Dec Eric Edgar On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: Oh my goodness- I can't believe there was another Martinho on the opposite page --even after I thought I've never seen that name before! Duh!! I'm embarrassed to admit my Martinho wS on the left page in the center and there just happened to be another Martinho on the right in the center too. I never even noticed it when I said the link wS the center one on the right. I've been looking at records all day so I think I was getting cross eyed when I said it was the one on the right. When you said the names of the parents were not the ones i cited, then I thought I was going nuts- that's when I saw there were 2 martinhos!! Thank you and I apologize. I'll keep looking for Mathias!! Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maria The parents of Martinho are Martinho de Souza and Maria Martins...just thought I would throw this in there since you were looking for a baptism of a child of parents other than what is in the mentioned record. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] hard to read Cedros, Faial
Here is the Uminho ( NEPS) info on this family group António Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=P;v=antonio+silveira Santa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=N;v=santa[image: ] http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=jose+silveira+da+rosa;n=santa [image: ^^] http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt; - Nascido a 6 de Março de 1790 - Freguesia de Cedros - Baptizado a 9 de Março de 1790 - Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara - Falecido a 19 de Novembro de 1861 - Freguesia de Cedros - Enterrado a 20 de Novembro de 1861 - Cemitério Público de Cedros - Com a idade de 71 anos Pais - José Silveira Da Rosa Santa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=jose+silveira+da+rosa;n=santa *1764* - Rita Maria Da Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=rita+maria+da;n=silveira *1766-1832* Casamentos e filhos - Casado com Maria Rosa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=rosa;oc=201 *1790-1891*, tiveram - António _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio;n=;oc=659 *-1816* - Manuel Da Rosa Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=manuel+da+rosa+silveira;n=santa *1807-1894* - João Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=joao+silveira;n=santa - António Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio+silveira;n=santa *1818-* - José Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=jose+silveira;n=santa;oc=1 - Francisco Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=francisco+silveira;n=santa *-1882* Notas - NOTA: Não foi encontrado o registo de casamento deste casal, na freguesia de Cedros. O António não fez testamento e o padre não diz se o finada recebeu ou não os sacramentos, nem diz se teve ou não acompanhamento. Faleceu com 71 anos de idade e não 60(!) anos, como refere o padre. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:12 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Did you notice that the baptism record for Antonio is 1790, and the marriage record for Jose and Rita is 1804 Eric Edgar On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: here is the link to the marriage of Jose Silveira and Rita Maria. I had included it in my first post but didn't mention it. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808_item1/P49.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] hard to read Cedros, Faial
Are you asking about the easily visible record second from the bottom, or the very messy one at the bottom of the page? Eric On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Liz, Antonio's paternal grandparents were Jose Silveira and Catarina da Rosa... at least that's what my magic eyes could see... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808_item1/P49.html On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 7:38:52 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: Thx. Did it give any grand parents or any other clues do I can look back further?? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2015, at 5:16 PM, jand...@juno.com jand...@juno.com wrote: Antonio son of Jose Silveira da Rosa and his wife Ritta Maria native of the parish of Santa Barbara *Old School Yearbook Pics* View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/555e75a1e3375a05d6fst03vuc classmates.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/555e75a1e3375a05d6fst03vuc -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] hard to read Cedros, Faial
Did you notice that the baptism record for Antonio is 1790, and the marriage record for Jose and Rita is 1804 Eric Edgar On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: here is the link to the marriage of Jose Silveira and Rita Maria. I had included it in my first post but didn't mention it. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808_item1/P49.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation assistance
nasceu a cinco horas da manhana do dia primeiro d esto mez e ano born at 5 in the morning of the first day of this month and year. So, 1 Jun 1872 Eric Edgar On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! Cheri does it have the birthday on it? I couldn't see it. -Eddie On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 1:29:48 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Mom looks like a misspelling of American! I think she's Maria Isabel da Conceicao, but spelled the old way (Conceicam and he didn't capitalize the C). Paternal grandma is Rita de Sao Pedro (old spelling here - Sam for São). Maternals: Joao (spelled the old way here - Joam) Antonio de Quadros and Anna Isabel do São Joaquim (Sao spelled Sam here). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Translation assistance - Antonio Pimentel, b. 20 APR 1854, Fajazinha
It's not a Z, just they way they write the S. It's Manuel Caetano e seu mulher meaning , and his wife Anna. Eric Edgar On May 15, 2015 4:14 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler pimwh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - doing my best to translate, but still need help from those of you with a better grasp of the language. Here's what I get from the following record. Am I on track, and did they spell Freitas with a Z in this record? That's what it looks like to me. Antonio, son of Antonio de Freitaz (?) Pimentel and Isabel Maria. Born 20 APR 1854 Paternos: Jose de Freitez (?) Pimentel and Anna de Conceicao (?) Trindade ? Materna: Anna de Freitez, Padrinos: Manoel Caetano and his (??) Anna Thanks! LINK: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P53.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Translation assistance - Antonio Pimentel, b. 20 APR 1854, Fajazinha
Paternos -Jose de Freitas Pimentel and Anna de Conceicao, (not Trindade) but- Maternos - Joao de Freitas Henriques and Anna de Freitas natives of the parish of Nossa Senhora dos Remidios Padrinhos..It's Manuel Caetano e sua mulher, Anna Enriqueta On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:19 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: It's not a Z, just they way they write the S. It's Manuel Caetano e seu mulher meaning , and his wife Anna. Eric Edgar On May 15, 2015 4:14 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler pimwh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - doing my best to translate, but still need help from those of you with a better grasp of the language. Here's what I get from the following record. Am I on track, and did they spell Freitas with a Z in this record? That's what it looks like to me. Antonio, son of Antonio de Freitaz (?) Pimentel and Isabel Maria. Born 20 APR 1854 Paternos: Jose de Freitez (?) Pimentel and Anna de Conceicao (?) Trindade ? Materna: Anna de Freitez, Padrinos: Manoel Caetano and his (??) Anna Thanks! LINK: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P53.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: some dead ends andhopefully some help with dna
Texas Marriage record: Name:Joe PerryTitles and Terms:MrEvent Type:MarriageEvent Date:26 Jun 1878Event Place:Chambers, TexasSpouse's Name:Mary Delphina Mansell https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLWZ-3ZSSpouse's Titles and Terms: Mrs On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Joe Matias joe.mudd...@gmail.com wrote: I sent you a file. Here it is hopefully. Is frank a relative of yours? On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:45 PM, debra jaynes qatta...@gmail.com wrote: Joe did part of your reply get cut off? what has her name as marcella. thanks On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-7, joe m wrote: Do you have this.I know its not what you are looking for but has her name as Marcella. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:58 PM, debra jaynes qatt...@gmail.com wrote: I tried that without success, have checked what passenger lists I could find, immigration and naturalization records on ancestry. Looked at other trees with my grandfa listed and no one has any further info listed on their trees. was hoping the dna part may help me get further. I was wondering if maybe he could not write and they spelled his name phonetically . On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:43:54 PM UTC-7, E. Sharp wrote: Try spelling Azevedo. E Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2015, at 5:26 PM, debra jaynes qatt...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot to put my gr grandmothers name we think it is Mary Marcell or Marsalle On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:07:31 PM UTC-7, debra jaynes wrote: I have a dead end on my gr grandfather and gr grandmother's lines. His name is Joaquin Asivido born in the Azores 1854 and came to the US and lived in the Salinas Monterey area of California. Due to the spelling I have no luck going back in to the Azores to find connections. Being adopted I have no relationship with the Asivido's here. On my gr grandmother's side she was born 10/1868 in Texas and died in Monterey10/18/1919. She stated on the census that her parents were from Portugal. I have MyFTDNA and Ancestry DNA and currently waiting for 23 and me. I am on Gedmatch kit A508251. on Ancestry my nic is qattales1. I have a lot of hits on cousins but with no actual info on names it has been difficult to find where to start.I was thinking I would try to work it like I am in looking for my father and do cousin trees to find connections and work forwards. If someone has a connection to me on the matches I would love to know. Thanks -- -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: some dead ends andhopefully some help with dna
Rosemarie, I saw Joaquim on the 1900, 1910,1920 censuses in Castroville. He's buried at Castroville Moss Landing cemetery Eric On May 6, 2015 9:16 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote: Debra, Did Joaquim P. Azivido live in Monterey for any length of time? If he was here he may be in the UPEC records of which I have the film here in the Monterey FHC. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:45 AM, debra jaynes qatta...@gmail.com wrote: I had found the record for Turtle Bayou and had saved it to my shoebox once when I was playing with possible names. great to see some confirmation. On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:16:24 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: Here's Maria's brother John Marcell's death record MARCELL JOHN1870 09 17 ROSE MARCELL MALE TX MONTEREY 1959 09 2789 2055483 Mother's maiden name Rose. I'll bet that the father's was Maciel. Here's the 1870 census with father John Marcell, sailor. Note Manuel Enos next door. Chambers county Texas is on the bay near Houston Eric Edgar On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:37 PM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: Debra, Joaquin P Asivido died in Monterey CO. on 4-29-1939 at 93 yrs The most important clue here is the middle initial P, i'll bet it's for Pereira Joaquim Pereira Azevedo. I'd guess he's from Pico or Faial 1900 census says he arrived in 1882 and was born in Jan 1854. 1910 census says 1873 1920 says 1873 1930 says 1908 , but then it also says he is 76 yrs He never applied for citizenship it seems Here is the 1880 census with Mary Marsells in Texas. Her step-father here is Joe Perry ( Jose Pereira) Eric Edgar On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:45 PM, debra jaynes qatt...@gmail.com wrote: Joe did part of your reply get cut off? what has her name as marcella. thanks On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-7, joe m wrote: Do you have this.I know its not what you are looking for but has her name as Marcella. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:58 PM, debra jaynes qatt...@gmail.com wrote: I tried that without success, have checked what passenger lists I could find, immigration and naturalization records on ancestry. Looked at other trees with my grandfa listed and no one has any further info listed on their trees. was hoping the dna part may help me get further. I was wondering if maybe he could not write and they spelled his name phonetically . On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:43:54 PM UTC-7, E. Sharp wrote: Try spelling Azevedo. E Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2015, at 5:26 PM, debra jaynes qatt...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot to put my gr grandmothers name we think it is Mary Marcell or Marsalle On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:07:31 PM UTC-7, debra jaynes wrote: I have a dead end on my gr grandfather and gr grandmother's lines. His name is Joaquin Asivido born in the Azores 1854 and came to the US and lived in the Salinas Monterey area of California. Due to the spelling I have no luck going back in to the Azores to find connections. Being adopted I have no relationship with the Asivido's here. On my gr grandmother's side she was born 10/1868 in Texas and died in Monterey10/18/1919. She stated on the census that her parents were from Portugal. I have MyFTDNA and Ancestry DNA and currently waiting for 23 and me. I am on Gedmatch kit A508251. on Ancestry my nic is qattales1. I have a lot of hits on cousins but with no actual info on names it has been difficult to find where to start.I was thinking I would try to work it like I am in looking for my father and do cousin trees to find connections and work forwards. If someone has a connection to me on the matches I would love to know. Thanks -- -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Stuck on a Baptismo - Jose, son of Antion de Freitas Pimentel
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler pimwh...@gmail.com wrote: HI Friends - I'm stuck on another one. If anyone has the time and inclination, I could use some help translating parts of this one. Thanks in advance! Here is the link, its the first one on the left page: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P113.html Here's what I've been able to pick out: Jose son of Antonio de Freitas Pimentel e sua mulher Isabel de Jesus, moradores na este freguisia), neto paterno paternal grandson de Jose de Freitas Pimentel and of Anna Henriqueta and maternos Jose de Freitas Serpa and of Anna de Jesus, all Natives of Freguisia de Nossa Senhora do Remidios, of the village of ??; on the twenty first ( viente hum ) day of the month of August, 8 1859 for padrinho is Francisco Maria I baptized this day (can't read the rest of line) I assume the rest of this is just the signature stuff and not important. Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding my great grandfather
Pacific whaling ships went out for years at a time. They left out of New England, rounded Cape Horn, resupplied at Hawaii, and often again at Australia. The early Hawaii and Australian newspapers list their arrivals, sometimes the crew members who were released, or jumped ship and were being sought. Stories of crew misbehavoirs and court actions appear also. Try searching in this Australian database: http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper The Hawaiian Gazette at the Library of Congress can be searched back to 1868 http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83025121/ The Pacific Commercial advertiser back to 1856 http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/ Many of the earliest Portuguese in Hawaii arrived on whalers long before the government sponsored immigrant ships started. Eric Edgar On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Gloria Arlette Rodrigues suchislif...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, It is true about the District of Horta. We don't know anything but what I said about my great grandfather. Maybe I need to write to the parishes there. Unless you have suggestions. Thank you Gloria On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:38 AM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: Gloria, I think your explanation makes sense, (Flores belonging to the Horta District and being referenced that way often). John Vasconcelos (Parents both from Flores) On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Gloria Arlette Rodrigues suchislif...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cheri, Yes I know Flores is an island and Horta is a city on the island of Faial. I also read that at one time the District of Horta was made up of 4 islands that included Flores. My grandfather insisted it was Flores Horta so I am just repeating what he always said. Thought maybe he knew something that I didnt. There were American whaling ships with Portuguese workers that went to Hawaii. From which island my grandfather left, I don't know. Sorry, the years: Born: 1852 or 1853. If you happen to come across anything please let me know. Thank you so much for the info. I will surely check it out!!! Gloria Rodrigues On Apr 23, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gloria R, Flores is an island. Horta is a city on the island of Faial. I don't think the whalers went to Hawaii. The people who research Hawaii know best though. To get to Hawaii from the Azores, you left from Ponta Delgada on the island of Sao Miguel or from Funchal on Madeira (Madeira is not part of the Azores). Also check your years. Born 1952 or 1955 but died in 1919? Did you mean 1852 or 1855? A how to is here: goo.gl/Ds6UKd You also might want to look at the Portuguese Hawaiian site, Your Island Routes at www.yourislandroutes.com. It's undergoing redesign, so some web link may not work. I'm not sure if the Portuguese Genealogical Society of Hawaii has a web site, but the president is on this list or you can contact him at dgnils at hotmail.com Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and
[AZORES-Genealogy] Angra Passports at CCA available
The Angra passports are available. 1770 to 1937 Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Angra Passports at CCA available
I've read about 50 years of the Horta passports now and find very few Flores residents on them. Less than one person per two pages. So, maybe 1 percent I'm hoping Angra turns up more. The format of the Angra passports is very different, a book entry for each passport rather than the table form that Horta uses. Less information is given. Eric Edgar On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Brenda SP, The 3 ports for the Azores are: Horta on Faial Angra on Terceira Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel Since Flores is closest to Horta, I'd look there first. If they needed to get out though, they could have caught the next ship, regardless of the port. Most sailed from the port closest to them though. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Reconciling Information
I found the format incorrect. My father's family comes from Spain and Mexico and I've worked with thousand of records over the last 20 years. Joao Ventura has the more correct form.Jesus Gonzales and Maria Moreno marry. She becomes Maria Moreno Gonzales, or in older form Maria Moreno de Gonzales When her husband died, she becomes Maria Moreno Vda de Gonzales (Vda- viuda, widow of) If their son is named Jesus, then he is named Jesus Gonzlaes Moreno. Some times the new compound surname becomes a surname and a marriage adds to that. Example from my family- Francisco Robledo married Angela Montante, their son is Heladio Robledo Montante Heladio Robledo Montante then married Margaret Edgar Their child is Heladio Robledo Edgar. Because the family moves back and forth between the US and Mexico, the surname becomes compound Heladio Robledo Edgar marries Artemia Calleja, and she is now Artemia Robledo Edgar de Calleja Although, at the time I was born , the US couldn't grasp the compound surname, I'm Eric Allan Robledo Edgar but legally Eric A R Edgar What this has to do with Portuguese geneaolgy, is the compound surname issue. You will see this as Correia de Melo de Rosa Duarte Ferreira de Avila etc.. These name get passed down as compound for generations, until they arrive in the US. The they usually lose one of those . It could become a middle name. The first part could be dropped. The second part could be dropped, often I've seen the first part dropped and the second contracted with the De. So If you're looking for a Francisco Ferreira de Avila,now in the US he may be : Frank Ferreira Frank Avila Frank F de Avila Frank Diavila, Deavala, or Davilla or he could have chucked it all, and is now Frank Smith Eric Edgar On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:23 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi Anthony, Really nice indeeed, just one small point when you mention the Spanish naming tradition. You've got it wrong. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs#Generational_transmission You wrote: For example, if a couple named Jesus Gonzales and Maria Moreno had children, their children would use the 'surname' Moreno Gonzales. The correct order in Spain (the one in Europe) would actually be Gonzales Moreno (paternal+maternal). And the maternal 'Moreno' would be dropped when naming the children. It's extremely confusing to tell you the truth, and i'm used to the Portuguese two-surname tradition that's basically the same, except it's maternal+paternal. It may be that you're right when describing those traditions when applied to some other Spanish-speaking individuals, but in that case don't call them Spanish or you'll risk confusing your audience. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:28:50 UTC+1, Anthony Martin wrote: I wrote up a blog post that discusses my search process when trying to find individuals for whom you have limited information. I'm posting this in hopes that it is helpful to someone. Here's the link: http://thetreeandbranch.blogspot.com/2015/03/ reconcile-information-is-this-correct.html Any feedback would be great! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists
On the Horta passports it usually simply lists; Nome de Navio - name of ship Eric Edgar On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:45 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: On the Ponta Delgada passport lists at the right there is usually a heading *Embarcacao-* meaning the Vessel under it is *Qualidade*- what type of ship, * Vapo*r-steamship *Nome*- name of ship *Nagao*. abbreviation, navegação- to what country the ship belongs On the 1880 passport you'll see the ship names *Luna* and *Acor*. Eric Edgar On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:07 AM, manueljoselj...@gmail.com wrote: what did a passport look like in those days? On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:48:54 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Passaportes leaving Sao Miguel don't have the ship name. Or not for all time periods. They seem not to have it for the time periods I search! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists
Cheri, It looks like they only followed the format for Ponta Delgada passports from 1875-1883 . Nothing but destination country until 1913, when they started listing city destination as well. Eric On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Maybe it depends on the time period. This one doesn't have the name of the ship at all, and it's the Peninsular, as I have it coming in on the American end: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P74.html I know I've looked up a few Sao Miguel people. Maybe I have bad luck or they are all in the time period where Sao Miguel didn't list the ship. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Cedros Faial Information / Patricia Butcher
Thats me. Eric Edgar On Mar 7, 2015 12:41 PM, 'jeanne lenhart' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Cheri, Thanks for the search info. Sorry for my confusion. I am a novice at this. I am trying to get back to the person who sent me information pages on Da Rosa De Escobar. It was from *luisnoia *with the e mail address noblankt...@gmail.com https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/app/minty/compose?to-field=noblankt...@gmail.com. I thought that e mail was Eric's. yahoo is linking all the e mails and I need to expand them to read everything. But I might have also deleted some without knowing I deleted more than I was looking at!! I am waiting for information from Patricia Butcher and from Escobar in California that I haven't received and hope I didn't delete without ever reading it!! Jeanne L. On Saturday, March 7, 2015 12:16 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Jeanne L, I'm not Eric. NEPS doesn't want to be called NEPS anymore. They want to be called CITCEM-GHP. NEPS was something like Nucleu Estudia para Population and Society. I mixed my Portuguese and English there. Something like the Core Study of Population and Society in English. I'd have to look up CITCEM-GHP on their web site. It's a mouthful, so most people still call it NEPS. As for the CCA, you can't search their pages. When you get to your freguesia and find the years you want, you go page by page looking for your ancestor. Recent history depends on your definition of recent. 10 years ago? 50 years ago? The records are online up to 1910/1911 or so. That's it. Any other 1900s record you will have to write to the Civil Registry for that particular council that your freguesia belongs to. They don't do searches, so hopefully you have the exact date. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists
Doug Holmes has the great Portuguese Passenger Ship Master List http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html There re some links to transcribed lists. The CCA passports pages have the shiplist names at the right side of the second page. This is a great resource for checking against a shiplist http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx It is not searchable, but like a calander, each page in order, sections broken down by years. Eric Edgar On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:51 AM, manueljoselj...@gmail.com wrote: Not wanting to sound cheap or a free loader :-) Are there any sites that has free ship lists that you can see the list of passengers? I had Ancestry and they had it but then they changed and I told them to take a hike. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
C. Jesus is for Coracao de Jesus as in *Maria Emilia Corocao de Jesus = Mary Emily heart of Jesus* C. often is for da Conceicao as in *Maria da Conceicao = Mary of the Conception - *referring to the Immcaulate Conception of Jesus Eric Edgar On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Sharon Simson ssimson1...@gmail.com wrote: Help with names, I have scoured the internet looking for explanations of abbreviations. What does Esp.St. stand for? Or C.Jesus, or C. before any last name for that matter, because that seems to be another common one. Or S.Joao, S.Tome, S.Francisco Would really like to get these right. Thanks for the help -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Quadros from Sao Jorge island, Telles from Faial
Here is the original post from back in 2008 from John Q I am looking for information on my ggrandfather Joseph (most likely born Jose) Quadros who immigrated from the Azores to Boston in about 1879. To the best of my knowledge, he was born on Sao Jorge on 24 March 1863 (possibly the son of Joao with mother's name unknown at this time). He lived in the Charlestown section of Boston, married Elizabeth Sangster, and had four sons (Percy, Joseph, John and Gordon) and a daughter (Helen). He worked at the Charlestown Naval Shipyard where he died in an industrial accident in 1904. I have no knowledge as to which parish he was born in. I tried searching the LDS copies of the baptism records for that period, but as most of you know the quality is poor and the local machines are not in good shape. I recognize only a few Portuguese words so that doesn't help me any. I looked into paying someone, but even though the cost may be justified if successful, there is of course no guarantee that anything would be found. I was excited to discover on my own that the Portuguese government is putting much more legible digital photos of the records online with excellent zoom tools to search the pages closely, but so far I haven't found my ggf's record. I would appreciate any information anyone may have on Jose Quadros from that time period in Sao Jorge, or any information as to when more parishes may be available online. Thank you. On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Eric Edgar, noblanktree at gmail.com I have been working on this Quadros family and have their origin and descendents Manuel Jose Quadros b. 1857 Calheta , Sao Jorge is Joseph's brother. He married Filomena Telles in 1882 in Ribeirinha, Faial. He has four children there and then just disapears after 1888. In 1892 his wife takes the family to join her Telles relatives in Mission San Jose, California. Filomena continues to be listed as married up to the 1910 census, then re-marries in 1912. Jose was born on the date you have in Topo, Sao Jorge. Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Annie, The Corvelo information was started as a disambiguation after someone suggested Corvelo , Crivello and Carvalho might be of the same origin Eric On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry. I don't understand these messages. I'm not sure what my family has to do with a contract. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:34 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: *Eric,* *The first couple of paragraphs of that description were were confirmed by James Guill when I met with him between 15 and 20 years ago. He also told me that he had seen the original contract between Prince Henry and Antonio Catalão in the Portuguese Archives (Torre de Tombo?).* *John Vasconcelos* Researching Vasconcelos, Freitas, Corvelo , Mendonça, Furtado de Mendonça Pimentel, Fraga, Coelho, Rodrigues, Gonçalves all from Flores On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:04 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, Your Tree has Maria de Jesus Freitas born in Sao Miguel, Her passport says she is a native of Santa Cruz, Flores. I did some work on a Carvalho family from Flores a few years back. I'll take a look and get back to you. Meanwhile... these marriage records from Flores relate to this family Alfredo José Marcos [30 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de Marcos José Teixeira e de Catarina Tomásia de Simas] c. 1910.04.09 c. Cristina de Freitas Carvalho [18 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.ª de António Joaquim de Carvalho, n. Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, e de Maria de Jesus de Freitas, n. Santa Cruz das Flores]. João de Medeiros Coelho Ramos [20 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de João de Medeiros Barbosa, n. Relva, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, e de Mariana Jacinta, n. Santa Cruz das Flores] c. 1906.09.01 c. Maria José Carvalho Medeiros [18 anos, f.ª de António Joaquim de Carvalho, n. Pilar da Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, e de Maria de Jesus de Freitas, n. Santa Cruz das Flores]. Eric Edgar Researching Noia, Vieira, Rodrigues, Coelho from Flores Soares, Silveira Soares, from Lajes, Pico On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, Do you have dates on your ancestors or their freguesia? Was Emma Portuguese? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/dT50_Os4d74/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Cedros Faial Information / Patricia Butcher
I have Escobar documents that I found working on a Quadros/Telles family project. All three of these familes settled in the Washington Township, ( Mission San Jose, Centerville) of Alameda County, CA Since there is much confusion among the various da Rosa Escobar, da Silveira Escobar, da Rosa Pereira Escobar branches from Cedros and Ribeirinha, I've spent a lot of time sorting them out. This NEPS entry is the family of Henry . Anyone else working on Escobar, that settled in California? *António Da Rosa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=P;v=antonio+da+rosa de Escobar http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=N;v=de+escobar* - Trabalhador/Lavrador - Nascido a 23 de Março de 1846 - Freguesia de Cedros - Baptizado a 29 de Março de 1846 - Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara *Pais* - António Da Rosa de Escobar http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio+da+rosa;n=de+escobar;oc=2 *1822* - Rosa Cândida Clara de Escobar http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=rosa+candida+clara;n=de+escobar *1823-* - Casado *(8 OUT 1874), Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, *com - - Maria Clara Da Conceição http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria+clara+da;n=conceicao;oc=3 *1857*, - Pais António Da Rosa de Medeiros http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio+da+rosa;n=de+medeiros;oc=9 *- *Mariana Clara http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=mariana;n=clara;oc=1 *1826* - tiveram - Maria _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=;oc=1623 *1875* - António _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio;n=;oc=260 - José _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=jose;n=;oc=1210 - Filomena _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=filomena;n=;oc=72 - Ana _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=ana;n=;oc=513 - Maria _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=;oc=1786 - Manuel _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=manuel;n=;oc=1410 *1887* - Domingos _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=domingos;n=;oc=173 *1889* - Francisco _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=francisco;n=;oc=671 - Henrique _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=henrique;n=;oc=11 - Agostinho _ http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=agostinho;n=;oc=8 *1900* Eric Edgar On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:43 PM, 'jeanne lenhart' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Thank you, Pat! On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:11 AM, Pat dolphinla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jeanne, Yes, I am related to many of these Escobar families in California. I will forward your email to Henry Escobar that is related to the ones you mention. I met he and his wife, Maria Nazare a few months ago here in Las Vegas where I have lived for many years. He is a third cousin of mine. I will write more to you privately. Patricia On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 11:18:34 PM UTC-8, Jeanne L wrote: Hello Patricia Butcher, Do you still research da Rosa de Escobar family history? I have previously corresponded with you. I will visit Faial this year so I have been re-reading e mails and organizing history. In a 2002 e mail, you had mentioned a Henry Escobar living in California. My mother's cousin was Henry Escobar (born 1916) who, in 1993 lived in San Anselmo, CA. He moved from there around 2000 to possibly San Rafael or there abouts.) Henry's father, Joe Rosa Escobar, immigrated from Cascalho, Cedros, Faial along with four siblings including his sister,( my maternal Grandmother), Ana Clara da Rosa de Escobar (born 1884). Ana and three siblings settled in Taunton, MA but Joe went to California. Henry Escobar (born 1916) and my mother shared the same maternal grandfather, Antonio da Rosa de Escobar (born 1846, married Maria Clara da Rosa de Medeiros in 1874) all from Cascalho, Cedros, Faial. Cousin Henry from California made at least nine trips back to Cedros and I am hoping people there would still know of him. Cousin Henry, who would now be 99 years old, had a son Jeffrey A. Escabar who had managed a restaurant in San Rafael, CA. I am hoping perhaps the Henry you corresponded with is related to my mother's cousin Henry. Could you please contact me about Henry Escobar and Monique in California? During my visit to Faial I would like to locate the house where my
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maui Portugese Sausage
Goularts in San Jose ! http://www.goularts.com/5.html http://www.goularts.com/5.html I've tried all the brands, and home made too. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:55 PM, 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Just returned from Maui and was excited to order food with Portugese Sausage.in my family this would mean linguica! Are my taste buds totally gone? This version of linguica was way off the mark! In the local store, one of the butchers said they discontinued the Silva brand - which is what I get here in So. Cal. Even the butcher agreed what they now sell is NOT the linguica of old! Anyone else had this experience? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Avila, Borba, Azevedo, Nunes, Machado from Brazil and Sao Jorge island
Adair, Your Ignacio de Borba line is from Norte Pequeno, Calheta, Sao Jorge and the earliest records we have shows them as natives there to the late 1700s. Patricia's Borba ( Machado) line are from Norte Grande, Velas, Sao Jorge. Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Adair Borba adair1...@icloud.com wrote: Robin, I have been searching the Borba line that came from Sao Jorge through Rhode Island, settling in Sebastopol(Sonoma), California. Is there somewhere I can see what you have in your tree? Adair Borba On Feb 8, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Robin Lebo wrote: I also have ancestors from Sao Jorge. My great grandparents were married in St.Catharina church, Calheta. There used to be a big family reunion in Gustine my grandfather and his siblings used to go to. My grand father was George Silva and his father was Jorge da Silva. Jorge was traveling with cousins who got off in Brazil. He continued on to San Fran. He married Arminda Aurora Luis. Jorge's parents were Joao Faustino da Luz, His wife was Maria Inacia da Silviera. Jorge's three brothers were in Calif eventually. Joao's mother was Isabel Angelica do Coracao de Jesus. No father has been found yet. Arminda Luis parents are as follows Manual Luis Sineiro and Maria Isabel Dias. Manual's father was Luis Jose Fagundes and his wife was Antonia Jaconta. Still researching the lines but I have been told Avila, Bettencourt, Borba, Pimental, and a few others are related. I haven't found the connections and my mother is starting to forget things. If any lines cross drop me a line. Best Regards Robin Lebo On Feb 8, 2015, at 12:31, 'Guida Leicester' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: SAME HERE...AZEVEDO, MACHADO, BORBA...FAJÃ DOS CUBRES, SÃO JORGE... Guida Leicester On Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:49 PM, Maggie15 maggie.sut...@charter.net wrote: Nice to see your post. My family was all from Sao Jorge, settled in Gustine, California - very close to Crowslanding... lots of Avilla, Machado, Azevedo, Borba in my lines. Message me if you would like. Maggie Homen Sutton California On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:57:08 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Patricia Phillips, patricia.phillips1 at earthlink.net I am Patricia Phillips, and have been trying to make connections pertaining to my mother's family heritage. It is difficult to do so because my grandfather died in 1929, and my mother was only 10 years old. Her Aunt was Mary Avila (Avilla), who was married to John Borba. In the History of Stanislaus County book, his last name is listed as Azevedo. I understand John Borba came to the United States from Brazil. To my understanding all the children from his marriage are deceased. My great grandfather was Joseph Machado Avila (Avilla). He was from Sao Jorge. He married Isabelle Conceicao de Nunes. Their sons with the exception of one carried the Machado middle name. My Grandfather was George Machado Avila (Avilla). I shared the Avilla, because the family was uncertain about the spelling of the last name, and when doing my research, I need both names. My mother is Annabelle Avila (Avilla). She was born on my Great Grandfather's ranch in Crows Landing, California. Her name is the combination of two Avila Aunts: Anna and Belle Avila. My Grandmother was from Gustine, California, but she was not Portuguese, therefore, after my Grandfather died in an automobile accident on the Pacheco Pass, my Grandmother distanced the children and herself from the Avila family. This may not be helpful to anyone, but I thought I should share this information. Regards, Patricia -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
[AZORES-Genealogy] Local Histories on Open Library, Internet Archive,
The Open Library site has links to hundreds of local history books https://openlibrary.org/works/OL7900785W/History_of_Stanislaus_County_California https://openlibrary.org/books/OL24156285M/History_of_Alameda_County_California https://openlibrary.org/works/OL9207950W/A_history_of_Merced_County_California https://openlibrary.org/works/OL16289645W/History_of_Santa_Cruz_County_California Just enter the county name and history in the search box and look down the list for the READ icon Internet Archive has city directories by the hundreds https://archive.org/details/texts The search is something I haven't figured out yet. Pages like the Golden Nugget Library http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~npmelton/ has links to read them online Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Avila, Borba, Azevedo, Nunes, Machado from Brazil and Sao Jorge island
Modesto Bee stories relating to the crash Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Adair Borba adair1...@icloud.com wrote: Robin, I have been searching the Borba line that came from Sao Jorge through Rhode Island, settling in Sebastopol(Sonoma), California. Is there somewhere I can see what you have in your tree? Adair Borba On Feb 8, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Robin Lebo wrote: I also have ancestors from Sao Jorge. My great grandparents were married in St.Catharina church, Calheta. There used to be a big family reunion in Gustine my grandfather and his siblings used to go to. My grand father was George Silva and his father was Jorge da Silva. Jorge was traveling with cousins who got off in Brazil. He continued on to San Fran. He married Arminda Aurora Luis. Jorge's parents were Joao Faustino da Luz, His wife was Maria Inacia da Silviera. Jorge's three brothers were in Calif eventually. Joao's mother was Isabel Angelica do Coracao de Jesus. No father has been found yet. Arminda Luis parents are as follows Manual Luis Sineiro and Maria Isabel Dias. Manual's father was Luis Jose Fagundes and his wife was Antonia Jaconta. Still researching the lines but I have been told Avila, Bettencourt, Borba, Pimental, and a few others are related. I haven't found the connections and my mother is starting to forget things. If any lines cross drop me a line. Best Regards Robin Lebo On Feb 8, 2015, at 12:31, 'Guida Leicester' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: SAME HERE...AZEVEDO, MACHADO, BORBA...FAJÃ DOS CUBRES, SÃO JORGE... Guida Leicester On Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:49 PM, Maggie15 maggie.sut...@charter.net wrote: Nice to see your post. My family was all from Sao Jorge, settled in Gustine, California - very close to Crowslanding... lots of Avilla, Machado, Azevedo, Borba in my lines. Message me if you would like. Maggie Homen Sutton California On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:57:08 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Patricia Phillips, patricia.phillips1 at earthlink.net I am Patricia Phillips, and have been trying to make connections pertaining to my mother's family heritage. It is difficult to do so because my grandfather died in 1929, and my mother was only 10 years old. Her Aunt was Mary Avila (Avilla), who was married to John Borba. In the History of Stanislaus County book, his last name is listed as Azevedo. I understand John Borba came to the United States from Brazil. To my understanding all the children from his marriage are deceased. My great grandfather was Joseph Machado Avila (Avilla). He was from Sao Jorge. He married Isabelle Conceicao de Nunes. Their sons with the exception of one carried the Machado middle name. My Grandfather was George Machado Avila (Avilla). I shared the Avilla, because the family was uncertain about the spelling of the last name, and when doing my research, I need both names. My mother is Annabelle Avila (Avilla). She was born on my Great Grandfather's ranch in Crows Landing, California. Her name is the combination of two Avila Aunts: Anna and Belle Avila. My Grandmother was from Gustine, California, but she was not Portuguese, therefore, after my Grandfather died in an automobile accident on the Pacheco Pass, my Grandmother distanced the children and herself from the Avila family. This may not be helpful to anyone, but I thought I should share this information. Regards, Patricia -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Annie, I saw this tree also. Some of the children here are documented, but others seem to be pasted on because the surname matches. They need to be checked against the California death index and the CCA records for Santa Cruz Flores. Even a shiplist of the collective family would help determine which belong. Like this on from 1940- Maria J Freitas Carvalho arriving from Flores. It references two daughters- Ana Rodrigues Carvalho back in Sta Cruz, Flores and Christina CM Dias in Fresno http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_6455-0728/1006763175?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6ssrc=backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=NYT715_6455-0728 Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know. I think this is my family. The names are all family names. The first names are right. The dates and village are right. If it is them, there will be 7 more children: - Alfredo Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106961840 - Anna Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263669 - Antonio Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263568 - Cecilia Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263677 - Christina Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263644 - Manuel Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263592 - Jose Joachim JJ Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/261063601981884 - 1964 - Maria Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/262032323241890 - 1962 - Joao John Joachim Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/261211350351903 - On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:38:02 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote: Annie, Yes a different Carvalho family. The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada. Eric On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesa...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I want to be sure I understand you. Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family? Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho. And are you saying that Maria de Jesus de Freitas and Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did the recording? Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I was in the Azores a few years ago. A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my blog at this link: Our Precious Past http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html Again, thank you for the information. Annie On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the Niles, Alameda, California The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look in. Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record, marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by different priests The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, mother's , any of the grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname) added. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com (Note: Because these were multiple messages sent
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Here's the baptism for Joao Joaquim Carvalho 11 apr 1902 sta cruz http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1899-1904/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1899-1904_item1/P137.html On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know. I think this is my family. The names are all family names. The first names are right. The dates and village are right. If it is them, there will be 7 more children: - Alfredo Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106961840 - Anna Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263669 - Antonio Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263568 - Cecilia Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263677 - Christina Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263644 - Manuel Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263592 - Jose Joachim JJ Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/261063601981884 - 1964 - Maria Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/262032323241890 - 1962 - Joao John Joachim Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/261211350351903 - On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:38:02 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote: Annie, Yes a different Carvalho family. The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada. Eric On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesa...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I want to be sure I understand you. Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family? Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho. And are you saying that Maria de Jesus de Freitas and Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did the recording? Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I was in the Azores a few years ago. A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my blog at this link: Our Precious Past http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html Again, thank you for the information. Annie On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the Niles, Alameda, California The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look in. Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record, marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by different priests The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, mother's , any of the grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname) added. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com (Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each other, they were being flagged as spam. All responses are being placed into 1 message on the correct thread. Thank yous were deleted). Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was Tomas, and was changed to Thomas. They were from the island of Pico. Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho? == John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford? == Some of these names are very familiar. I will look at this closely
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Annie, I did not find this shiplist attached to an Ancestry Tree. My experience with Ancestry is similar to the Familysearch trees, about 90% useless undocumented information, mostly referencing someone elses undocumented tree Eric On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Deborah or Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com To my knowledge, my g-grandmother never visited except the time in 1952-1953 when I was a baby. Perhaps her passport shows that trip, but I did not see it and I have the passport. Where do you see the tree attached to this record? Deborah == Yes, I have that. It was sent to me in an earlier message. I'm waiting to hear back from my cousin with an address for Joaquina, my cousin in Flores. Thank you. = - - - - - - - Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Edna, I think it's a greater possibility that his name was originally Corvelo . It's more common in Flores Eric Edgar On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote: I have been watching the postings on the Carvalho family from Flores and I also am very interested. My Great Grandfather was named Manuel Crovel (Crovelle) here in USA, but I'm sure he was a Carvalho. All the past records I've found show he was from Flores. He apparently came to USA as a young man maybe 15 or 16 yrs on a whaling ship. He ended up in California in 1867 and settled in Hawkinsville, Ca, which is near Yreka, Ca about 15 miles south of the Oregon border. So far I have not been able to find out who his parents were or which village in Flores that he was from. Family records show he was born about 1832 in Flores. IF any of you have a missing Manuel from Flores, I'd be interested. I have had DNA done on both myself, my brother, my son, so maybe I should look for connectiions with some of you there? I haven't had a lot of time to look at or study all your Carvalho emails yet, but wanted to put in my 2 cents anyhow in hopes someone might know something.;) Thanks.. Edna Lemos Epps dave-e...@comcast.net [ISAIAH 46:4 NIV] Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you. On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know. I think this is my family. The names are all family names. The first names are right. The dates and village are right. If it is them, there will be 7 more children: - Alfredo Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106961840 - Anna Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263669 - Antonio Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263568 - Cecilia Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263677 - Christina Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263644 - Manuel Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263592 - Jose Joachim JJ Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/261063601981884 - 1964 - Maria Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/262032323241890 - 1962 - Joao John Joachim Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/261211350351903 - On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:38:02 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote: Annie, Yes a different Carvalho family. The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada. Eric On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesa...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I want to be sure I understand you. Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family? Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho. And are you saying that Maria de Jesus de Freitas and Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did the recording? Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I was in the Azores a few years ago. A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my blog at this link: Our Precious Past http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html Again, thank you for the information. Annie On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the Niles, Alameda, California The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look in. Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents On differences in names in records- It's common
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Annie, The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the Niles, Alameda, California The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look in. Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record, marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by different priests The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, mother's , any of the grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname) added. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com (Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each other, they were being flagged as spam. All responses are being placed into 1 message on the correct thread. Thank yous were deleted). Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was Tomas, and was changed to Thomas. They were from the island of Pico. Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho? == John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford? == Some of these names are very familiar. I will look at this closely today. == I was surprised the passport didn't have her birthdate on it. Did you see it? I knew she was born in Santa Cruz - that was a mistake on my part. Thanks for catching it. Eric, that Carvalho family from San Jorge may be my ex-husband's family. I will contact him and let him know. Is Bretanha, Ajuda a place? I thought it was a family surname. I found this name carved in the door at the Bishop's prison in St. Jean Pied de Port when I walked the Camino Santiago. I have a photo. I'll try to find it and post it. Eric, When you say paterno I'm not sure who this is? == My grandmother is Maria de JESUS de Freitas, not Maria de Jose de Freitas. Is this the same person? Annie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Annie, Yes a different Carvalho family. The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada. Eric On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I want to be sure I understand you. Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family? Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho. And are you saying that Maria de Jesus de Freitas and Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did the recording? Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I was in the Azores a few years ago. A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my blog at this link: Our Precious Past http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html Again, thank you for the information. Annie On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the Niles, Alameda, California The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look in. Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record, marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by different priests The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, mother's , any of the grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname) added. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com (Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each other, they were being flagged as spam. All responses are being placed into 1 message on the correct thread. Thank yous were deleted). Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was Tomas, and was changed to Thomas. They were from the island of Pico. Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho? == John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford? == Some of these names are very familiar. I will look at this closely today. == I was surprised the passport didn't have her birthdate on it. Did you see it? I knew she was born in Santa Cruz - that was a mistake on my part. Thanks for catching it. Eric, that Carvalho family from San Jorge may be my ex-husband's family. I will contact him and let him know. Is Bretanha, Ajuda a place? I thought it was a family surname. I found this name carved in the door at the Bishop's prison in St. Jean Pied de Port when I walked the Camino Santiago. I have a photo. I'll try to find it and post it. Eric, When you say paterno I'm not sure who this is? == My grandmother is Maria de JESUS de Freitas, not Maria de Jose de Freitas. Is this the same person? Annie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] manuel G machado from pico island azores
Last_NameFirst_NameMiddle_NameB_yrB_moB_dyMothers_Last_NameFathers_Last_Name SexBpCounty_of_DeathD_yrD_moD_dySS_NumberAgeidno MACHADO MANUEL GONSALVES 1893 01 15 SOUZA MACHADO MALE RE SAN JOAQUIN 1941 12 2448 127667 NEPS page Pico , Concelho de Madelena http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 Manuel ? http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 Nascido(a) a 15 de Janeiro de 1893 - s mateus http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 Pais http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 Francisco Goncalves Machado 1865-1954 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=14729;oc=1501 Maria Dores Soares 1869-193 Eric Edgra On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Raj, You can find a guide to getting started on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/LZN1yw Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Maria de Jose de Freitas's parents marriage records: José Jacinto [22 anos, n. Conceição, Horta, f.º de Tomás José e de Maria Carolina] c. 1865.01.23 Santa Cruz das Flores c. Ana de Jesus [31 anos, f.ª de Manuel de Freitas Cardoso e de Teodora de Jesus]. José Jacinto Tomás [44 anos, n. Conceição, Horta, f.º de Tomás José e de Maria Carolina, e já v.º de Ana de Jesus] c. 1887.09.15 Sao Caetano , Lomba, Lajes de Flores c. Ana Úrsula do Coração de Jesus [41 anos, f.ª de António Caetano Martins e de Maria Úrsula, e já v.ª de Francisco José Filipe]. Using the age and parents names from the marriage record, a search at the NEPS site for Conceicao, Horta , Faial shows this family http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Conceicao;lang=pt;p=tomas;n=jose;oc=1 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Conceicao;lang=pt;p=tomas;n=jose;oc=1 Eric Edgar On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:45 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Antonio and Maria's marriage record António de Carvalho [25 anos, n. Ajuda da Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, f.º de Jacinto José de Carvalho e de Joaquina de Jesus] c. 1884.05.01 c. Maria José de Freitas [18 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.ª de José Jacinto Tomás, n. Conceição, Horta, e de Ana de Jesus, n. Santa Cruz das Flores]. link to Antonio Carvalho's baptism, found using age from marriage record, and matching his father's name from his son Jose's baptism record posted above http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1853-1860/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1853-1860_item1/P105.html Antonio, son of Jacintho Jose de Carvalho and Joaquina de Jesus paternos- Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho, already deceased and Lucretia Umbelina maternos- Jacintho Botelho and Anna Joaquina Eric Edgar On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Eric,* *Do you have the parents of Antonio Joaquim Carvalho who was born in Bretanha?* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *luiznoia . *Sent:* Sunday, February 22, 2015 4:05 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley Annie, Your Tree has Maria de Jesus Freitas born in Sao Miguel, Her passport says she is a native of Santa Cruz, Flores. I did some work on a Carvalho family from Flores a few years back. I'll take a look and get back to you. Meanwhile... these marriage records from Flores relate to this family Alfredo José Marcos [30 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de Marcos José Teixeira e de Catarina Tomásia de Simas] c. 1910.04.09 c. Cristina de Freitas Carvalho [18 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.ª de António Joaquim de Carvalho, n. Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, e de Maria de Jesus de Freitas, n. Santa Cruz das Flores]. João de Medeiros Coelho Ramos [20 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de João de Medeiros Barbosa, n. Relva, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, e de Mariana Jacinta, n. Santa Cruz das Flores] c. 1906.09.01 c. Maria José Carvalho Medeiros [18 anos, f.ª de António Joaquim de Carvalho, n. Pilar da Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, e de Maria de Jesus de Freitas, n. Santa Cruz das Flores]. Eric Edgar Researching Noia, Vieira, Rodrigues, Coelho from Flores Soares, Silveira Soares, from Lajes, Pico On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, Do you have dates on your ancestors or their freguesia? Was Emma Portuguese? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Annie, goog_1706169424 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1881-1886/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1881-1886_item1/P153.html This link shows baptism record of Jose Carvalho from 26 Dec 1884 in Santa Cruz . It states his father is Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho a native of _? de Ajuda, Sao Miguel. It doesn't look like Fenais de Ajuda, might be Senhora de Ajuda paterno is Jacinto Joaquim de Carvalho The Carvalho family I worked on in the past is not from Flores after all , but Sao Jorge http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1881-1886/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1881-1886_item1/P153.html Eric Edgar On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:17 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: Annie, My aunt and uncle, Jose and Maria Sousa (immigrants from Flores) were active in the Portuguese organizations in Hanford. She was secretary of the SPRSI (women's organization) for many years. He was treasurer or accountant for many Portugese lodges in Hanford. John Vasconcelos On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm Annie Carvalho. My great-grandparents were Emma (Thomas) and JJ Carvalho. I grew up spending lots of time with them on their ranch in Hanford, California. I have a lot of old photos of this family, some people I do not know. They were in my grandmother's things. If you are researching this family, I hope you will contact me. My family tree is public on ancestry.com and is called the Deborah Carvalho Family Tree. Also, I visited the Azores several years ago, and have photos of some of the islands. Is anyone driving to the conference in SLC from Portland, Oregon? Happy to have found this group! Annie (Deborah) Carvalho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Observation word in passports
The recorder is asking if the person can write (escrever -to write) That would also assume they can read. Eric Edgar On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote: It is Jose Ignacio Pedro #523: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1867-1876_item1/P169.html Cheri Mello wrote: No hyperlink. Can you send it? Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb Our Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/Kathy/index.php http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Steve Perry Lead Vocalist of Journey
Steve's mother's family is from Prainha, Pico. His maternal grandparents , Manuel Silveira Quaresma and Maria de Conceicao Cardoso also lived in Hanford. His father Raymond Perry ( Frank Ray Perry) was also a singer and radio station operator in Hanford. He was born in Massachusetts in 1919 to Frank Perry and Lena S. Grandparents were John and Georgiana Perry who were already married when they arrived in Massachucetts in 1890 according to the 1900 census. I do not know which island John and Georgiana Perry, Frank and Lena Perry all lived in the Hanford area by 1930. Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mãe Incongnita?
I haven't seen this before. Looks like dad showed up for baptism with the child and a secret to keep. In text it seems that the Padrinho, Madrinha, and the witnesses all state that they do not know the mother's name. Eric Edgar On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:12 AM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: Just ran across this while looking for something else. It is João starting on the lower left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1891-1900/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1891-1900_item1/P81.html Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tom Hanks, Portuguese ancestry
Antonio, His Frager family, originally Gonsalves Fraga comes from Ponta Delgada, Flores. The immigrant ancestor, Francisco Gonsalves Fraga. B 1848 arrived in California in 1864. He was married in San Leandro in 1869 to Barbara Enos, also of Flores Francisco and his sons were cattle ranchers in the Sunol area before moving to Pleasanton. Tom would be fourth generation in California Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:37 AM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking for more specific information on Tom Hanks Portuguese ancestry. Does anyone have more information than this link? His mother's surname on the Frager originally Fraga but on her mothers side they were Rose(Rosa?) https://sites.google.com/site/countyhistorian/ancestry-of-tom-hanks Antonio Faria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.
Nancy, The Horta Passport does show he is intending to leave on the Paladin. Follow the ditto marks from the top. You have been looking at the Box labeled Sabe Escrever- know how to write. Nao, no he doesn't Eric On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:01 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Nancy, here you go. Eric On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:16 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks E and Eric, I was unable to use the ancestry link...wanted a password. The Paladin? The Horta passport abbreviation looks like a N O L? Maybe he went on a different boat. At one point I saw a site that listed arriving shipsit wasn't through ancestryI thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it.is there such a site? I remember looking at it when I found my other brick wall. I'd like to see the other passengers.perhaps the Bettencourt woman was traveling with him since he has that name on both maternal and paternal sides! Barbara, it's always exciting to see an ancestors name.alas, there are so many with the same names! Good luck with yours! I appreciate everyone's helpI couldn't sleep last night since thoughts of this discovery put my mind in a tizzy! Nancy Jean -- From: bamecklenb...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please. Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:24:41 -0700 Nancy, When I first saw your email I thought, at last someone who knows about Joseph Victorino (Vitorino Jose)! But I guess it was a different one. From what I could find the one I am looking for was born Feb 25, 1832 in Angústias, Horta, Faial, Azores. His father was Vitorino Jose dos Reis and mother was Mariana Luisa Candida. He did settle in New Bedford. But my relatives say it was New Bedford, New Jersey. I haven't verified that yet. He supposedly came over to America with his older brother, Antonio Victorino in 1859. ~Barbara - Original Message - *From:* nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com *To:* azores group azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:57 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please. For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name was Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the constant was his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao Jorge in 1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw him.the Horta passports opened the door for me once again. I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship he came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says. Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is Nol?...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his village as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in 1862His father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de Betencurt! Thank you for any help with the ship name. Nancy Jean -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.
Nancy, Jose I Victorino did make it onboard the Paladin for that sailing. he is found on this page from the Ancestry Massachucetts Passenger lists goog_378601891 http://interactive.ancestry.com/8745/MAM277_90-0201/4273266?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6ssrc=backlabel=ReturnSearchResults There is no date on the manifest, but Ancestry has it as 13 Aug 1883. He is listed as Jose I Victorino, 21 yrs old. He is just below Francisca J de Bettencourt. On the Horta passport, she is at line 561. You can also see on the arrival list, Francisco I Pimentel that matches the Francisco Ignacio Pimentel at line 572 of the Horta list Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name was Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the constant was his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao Jorge in 1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw him.the Horta passports opened the door for me once again. I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship he came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says. Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is Nol?...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his village as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in 1862His father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de Betencurt! Thank you for any help with the ship name. Nancy Jean -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
Barbara, The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the passports from that end for him. Eric Edgar On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, Barbara Mecklenburg bamecklenb...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching. ~Barbara - Original Message - *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Barbara, In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954). In Michael Tepper's American Passenger Arrival Records, at the end of the chapter titled Customs Passenger Lists (it's Chapter 3 in my book, published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists and what's missing. For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277. M277 is the National Archive roll number. That film is indexed in M334. It also mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265. Other east coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI. You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these ports. You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/ I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this. Don't know how good it is though. http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml You can search Ancestry too. I don't believe they have every port though. If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has a subscription. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How many family finder matches do you have?
Antonio , How do get your total matches? If I count the 41 pages of matches at 10 per page then I have 407 The lowest shared CM being 20.5 Eric Edgar On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:51 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just curious how many family finder matches other people have I have 190. Antonio -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Boaventura/Ventura
Saint Bonaventure was formally canonised in 1484 by the Franciscan Pope Sixtus IV, and ranked along with Thomas Aquinas as the greatest of the Doctors of the Church by another Franciscan, Pope Sixtus V, in 1587. Bonaventure was regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of the Middle Ages Bonaventure's feast day was at first celebrated on the second Sunday in July, but was moved in 1568 to 14 July. My relative. Ventura Noya, was baptised as Boaventura on a 14 July. Eric Edgar On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:15 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lee. Your cousin's great grandfather's name was simply Ventura. I am the one that gave you the name Boaventura some time ago, but now that we have the benefit of his baptismal record we know that Ventura was his given name. As I understand it, Boaventura is a more common given name because it is the name of a saint, and those with this name often go by Ventura. My wife's mother and grandmother knew him as Ventura, but I believe they mistakenly thought it was short for Boaventura so that is why I was told it was Boaventura. Finding his baptism proved otherwise. She said they used to joke that my great grandparents, Ventura and Felicidade de Mello were named good fortune and happiness (boa ventura e felicidade) even though they never quite found either. My wife's family knew my great grandparents because my wife's grandmother was my great grandmother's niece. Bill On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-8, Lee wrote: My cousins great grandfather was Boaventura but always used just Ventura as his name. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] research
Here is the link from Tombo for Ericeira, Malfa, http://tombo.pt/f/mfr06 On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Pat, Check tombo.pt He crawls all the main Portuguese databases (CCA, ARM, etc) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with groom's birth year and occupation
Caixeiro is a peddler. It's on one of the word lists someone posted in the past Eric Edgar On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote: Yes, aged 25 and you have Villa dos Lajes correct. The occupation I have no clue about. Lee Oak Hill, WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in reading Passport records, 1865
Paul, You'll see on the map that Silveira is northwest up the coast from Lajes. It's halfway to Sao Joao. I've seen the records for Silveira usually with Lajes , but epending on where in the area the family lived or what family she married into, the records could be in Sao Joao also. I have ancestors from Lajes that are in Terra, northeast of the town of Lajes, and their records turn up both in the town of Lajes and in Ribeiras above it. There are Brum connected to my Silveira Soares family there. I'll take a look for a connection Eric Edgar On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Paul Rapoza prapoz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Below is a link for Horta passports from August of 1865. The last entry (numbered 33) for Catharina da Conceicao is possibly my 3rd great-grandmother who married in New Bedford, Massachusetts in December of 1865. From what I know about this ancestor, she was from Pico, she was known as Catherine Brum or Catarina da Conceicao, and she was born around 1835-1840. All of this is consistent with this Catharina da Conceicao passport entry. I would appreciate assistance in deciphering the village of which this Catharina is a native. I can see that she's from Pico, concelho of Lajes, but am unsure of what to make of the freguesia. It looks like Silveira to me, but knowing that is not the name of any frequesia in Lajes I do not know if this is an old name for a village or if I'm just misreading. I'm excited to find out if this is my 3rd great-grandmother and finding out what village she's from will definitely help in verifying this. Thanks! Paul Rapoza -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help on exposto marriage record
John, I'd say an exposto placed at the door of Ana Branca, adopted in a public writ by Jose Luis de Freitas so a legal adoption. Recognized by the town as Jose Luis's son. the word perfilhado has the root filha seems--- to become the son of - Eric Edgar On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:35 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: I need another opinion on the following Flores marriage record from Caveira: :Tome Luis de Freitas [31 anos , exposto na Fazeenda a porta da casa de Ana Branca, *perfilhado por escritura publica* Por Jose Luis de Freitas, n. Lomba, Lajes das Flores] c.1905 etc. GOOGLE online Translation come up with something like espoused by publish which I would interpret as something like assuming responsibility by public notice . Would this be what we would call adoption? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA STUDY AZORES
Page 62 starts an article in English on MtDNA Eric On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 4:39 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: For people that research Flores there is an interesting surname list on page 155 found in the attachment that Eric posted. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology Researcher
Al, I research Flores, and have access to all available books and data bases. I also have relatives on the island who may be able to search locally. Contact my private email. Eric Edgar On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Ângela Loura angelalo...@gmail.com wrote: A person on the site (@Flores), or someone to look up the online files? 2014-12-27 18:39 GMT+00:00 Bigal429 via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com: I am wondering if anyone can recommend a person who does research for the island of Flores. If you have used someone and liked their service that would be very helpful. Al Sequeira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Little known history
This is from the San Diego Historical Association ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM An interview with Joaquin (Jack) S. Theodore, 1905- done on February 29, 1992 It contains the audio file . He was a crew member of the Uncle Sam used in the Solomon Islands. His ship was landing Marines behind Japanese lines when the boat was sunk ans he was wounded. http://libraries.ucsd.edu/ark:/20775/bb7134312z/1-1.html Eric Edgar On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: 73 years ago... December 7, 1941 after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, 47 Portuguese Tuna boats were converted into war ships and 600 Portuguese/Azoreans in San Diego and Hawaii were commissioned to serve the United States. Azorean Fishermen became American warriors.Today we pay Tribute to their courage and contribution to this country! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Death Record Info Santa Clara Nov. 2014
Did you try here http://www.mercurynews.com/obituaries On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to find out about a death that I believe occurred this past Thanksgiving day (2014) in Santa Clara, SC County CA. There is no/will be no obituary I am told. This is a grandparent of a close family member. Any ideas of how I can find out without having to wait for it to be posted on SSDI? I do know the cemetery name. Should I call them? Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Oscar Borges
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910_item1/P131.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910_item1/P131.html Oscar 27 Jan 1907 Eric Edgar On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:25 PM, julee%philborges@gtempaccount.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to find information about my father-in-law, Oscar Borges. I'm trying to find a document that confirms his birth in 1907 in the town of Fajasinha, Flores, Azore Islands. I'm not finding any documents to confirm this information. Would anyone have any suggestions or links to birth certificates or Baptisms on the Island of Flores, better still, Fajasinha? Thank you for your help. Julee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge
Sam, These marriages records from the Casais de Flores e Corvo book may help with the translation. The Joao here is the son from the second marriage to Maria de Jesus from Nossa Senhora do Rosário LAJES DAS FLORES José da Rosa Jorge [n. Salão, Horta, f.º de Manuel da Rosa Jorge e de Catarina Maria da Silveira] c. 1811.09.24 c. Ana Furtado [f.ª de Domingos Rodrigues e de Maria Furtado]. * José da Rosa Jorge [n. Salão, Horta, f.º de Manuel da Rosa Jorge e de Catarina Maria da Silveira, e já v.º de Ana Furtada, f.ª de Domingos Rodrigues e de Maria Furtado] c. 1825.04.16 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Maria Lourenço]. This appears to be Joao's marriage record from Paróquia de Nossa Senhora dos Milagres LAJEDO João José Jorge [f.º de José da Rosa Jorge e de Maria de Jesus] c. 1855.06.14 c. Mariana de Jesus [f.ª de José Luís Velho e de Ana de Jesus]. Eric Edgar On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:17 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html Hi again, group; I was advised to put the link in the body of the email so, here you go. Top, left side. Need help translating. Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] American versions of Ignacia
Erica, Ines, Ynez, Inacia, and Nancy are one I've seen before. Eric Edgar On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net wrote: I am researching a lady with the name Ignacia de Jesus that emigrated to Hawaii. Does anyone have a suggestion of how that name might be Americanized? Thank you, Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] an introduction and a thank you
Linda, I have Cedros, Flores ancestors and have also slogged through many records before getting the book, especially the ebook, searchable version. I believe I have read every page of every parish book. Who are your family there? Mine are that of Joao Antonio Vieira b. Corvo died 1847 Cedros, and Michaela de Jesus ( daughter of Alexandre Robdrigues and Marianna de Jesus) b 1789 Cedros parents fro Corvo Eric Edgar On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:10 PM, linda menesesli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, My name is Linda, and all my antecedents are from the Azores. I've always had an interest in my family history, and I had thought that someday it would be fun to tackle the project of expanding my family tree. About two months ago while I was idly googling this and that, I discovered that the Islands' parish records are now online. I found my grandparents' baptismal records, and that was it-- I was completely hooked on chasing down the rest of the family as far back as I can. It's been great fun. I read a little Portuguese, enjoy history and puzzles, and have a research background, so the learning curve hasn't been too bad-- though I'm certainly finding that deciphering the handwriting on some records can be challenging to say the least! I knew that my family migrated to California from Terceira (Villa de Praia and Santa Barbara) and Flores (Santa Cruz and Cedros mainly), but I was surprised to discover that Santa Maria figures prominently in my family history too. It looks like I also have a connection to Faial though I haven't pursued it yet. So far, I've done a little of the Villa de Praia line (back to about 1800) and most of the Cedros line (though with gaps). At the moment, I'm concentrating on Santa Maria and have got back to circa 1710, mostly via the marriage records. I'm currently working on the records from the Matriz de NS de Assuncao, and then will tackle Sao Pedro and Santo Espirito. So far, this branch of my family is packed full of Resendes, with a few Curvelos, an Almada, a Cabral and a couple of Figueiredos and Souzas. Finally, a huge thank you to everyone in this group. I've been reading old posts, and the information they contain has been extremely helpful. I really wish I'd known about the Flores marriage book before trying to slog through the Cedros records (agh!), but it will certainly be useful when I return to working on the relations from that island. I've also read the posts on software recommendations, and I appreciate all the various points that were suggested for consideration. At the moment, I'm working with paper and pencil, but I definitely see the need for a database. Trying out a couple of the programs is one of my next priorities. I expect that I will be asking for help with decipherment and nuance. As my skills improve, I hope I'll be able to contribute back to the group too, for now, back to reading baptisms, Linda -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lavandeira, Carrazeda de Ansiaes, Braganca Records
Carolyn, These are available at Famlysearch. I have researched a Carvalho family from here before. Though the links will take to an online link , they are not actually viewable. A messages telling you they are available to signed in members of supporting organizations is all you see. I had a conversation about that with the Familysearch support staff who said the Catholic Diocese is preventing them from public viewing Portugal, Bragança, Catho...Church Records, 1541-1985 Bragança Carrazeda de Ansiães Lavandeira São Salvador Baptismos, (ago.) 1832-(jan.) 1883 Granite Mountain Record Vault International Film 1782273 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1782273 Item 3 Baptismos, (dez.) 1882-(out.) 1900 Granite Mountain Record Vault International Film 1782274 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1782274 Item 1 Casamentos, (maio) 1860-(maio) 1870, (jan.) 1871-(nov.) 1899 Granite Mountain Record Vault International Film 1782274 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1782274 Items 2 - 3 Óbitos, (mar.) 1860-(nov.) 1899 Granite Mountain Record Vault International Film 1782274 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1782274 Item 4 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Carolyn M carolynmoro...@gmail.com wrote: Joao, You are right, they probably don't have a whole lot of money in their budget for this type of project. Braganca is not a wealthy district. Thank you for the information, I hadn't thought about the cost involved. Carolyn On Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:32:33 PM UTC-4, João Ventura wrote: Those records are part of AD Bragança's archive. As the author of tombo.pt, the only thing I can tell you is that they'll be available on my site about 12 hours after the archive makes them available on the internet. That's the good news. As Cheri said, they'll be available in http://tombo.pt/en/f/crz07 The bad new is that AD Bragança is one of the 'black sheep' of the family. They probably don't have the budget to make an employee have spare time to place those books online. If you can read some portuguese (or even if not), scroll down to the bottom of the page and you can see some nice graphs of the evolution of each archive until about 4 months ago. João C. Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 5 October 2014 21:09:22 UTC+2, Carolyn M wrote: I am researching baptism and marriage records from Lavandeira, Carrazeda de Ansiaes, Braganca. Does anyone know when these records might be available on Tombo.pt? Thank you, Carolyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help linking Pai Incognitos in Ponta Delgada, Flores
I believe that Pedro and Monica share the same mother. I think Claudia died young as no other records are found for her, and that the mother is the same, that Maria Coelha and the Cura Domingo Bernardo had died in the ten years since Monica's birth I'm looking at the padrinhos and witnesses on the records *Pedro*- 1793- Manuel Valdao e Francisca Coelha, *padrinhos*. Belchior Roiz, Caetano Coelho *testigos* *Cura* Domingo Bernardo da Silveira *Monica*-1796- Manuel Valadao e sua mulher Francisca Coelha *padrinhos,* Belchior Roiz, Manuel Roiz,* testigos* *Cura *Domingo Bernardo da Silveira *Claudia*-1806- Raimundo Jose Coelho *padrinho, * Caetano Coelho, *testigo * *Cura* Antonio Lourenco Here's *Pedro* on a marriage record: *Pedro José de Avelar* [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de pai incógnito e de Florência Maria] c. 1813.02.18 c. Úrsula Joaquina [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Isabel Maria]. Here's *Monica *on a marriage record: João Pimentel Canhoto [f.º de Manuel Pimentel Canhoto e de Inácia Rosa] c. 1816.08.12 c. *Mónica Coelho* [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência Rosa]. Marriage record from Ponta Delgada for Padrinhos: *Manuel Valadão* [f.º de João Valadão e de Maria Valadão] c. 1769.04.04 *Francisca Coelho* [f.ª de João Rodrigues e de Maria Coelho]. *Testigo Raimundo Jose Coelho* on a marriage record: *Raimundo José Coelho* [f.º de Pedro Coelho e de Bárbara Maria] . 1799.08.01 c. Emerenciana da Conceição [f.ª de Manuel Furtado e de Mariana Coelho, ambos j. d.]. *Testigo Caetano Coelho* on a Ponta Delgada marriage record: Manuel Joaquim de Avelar [n. Corvo, f.º de *Caetano Coelho* e de Helena de Freitas] c. 1801.09.20 c. Rosa Joaquina de Freitas [f.ª de Manuel Coelho e de Mariana de Freitas]. note the de Avelar' surname shared by Pedro and Caetano's son Eric Edgar On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:44 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Maria Natalia, you are right. I can say I have seen this countless times from the 1700s forward on Terceira and Pico. If I were to pay attention to it elsewhere, I'm sure other places could be included, like Sao Miguel where I suspect you saw it. I'm not arguing one way or another about Joao's ancestral line. That takes in-depth study which he has done. But it certainly was a fact freed slaves were married to other regular citizens in the community. In fact, I have an ancestor from Sao Bento, Terceira whose son or daughter married the child of a slave. This was about 1700, if I recall. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help linking Pai Incognitos in Ponta Delgada, Flores From: mnk kamis...@comcast.net Date: Fri, September 26, 2014 5:06 am To: azores@googlegroups.com I just want to say that I have seen a marriage of a slave to a free person. I can't remember what village I was searching when I saw it, but it was possibly Ginetes. I just remember because I had never seen that before. Maybe the priest in your case was progressive or anti-slavery so he did not mention race or status of the women. MNK -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames
I've been working on a Pimentel family from Flores. For a few generations the were Pimentel Belo. Belo = beautiful. Then the next generation is Pimentel Canhoto. Canhoto means left-handed, but also, like the French word gauche, also clumsy, coarse, awkward. Eric Edgar On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:37 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, I can't speak for every place in the Azores but I can speak to you about the use of alcunhas in Lajes do Pico. My father frequently talks about people from the old country he lived there until his early 30's and usually refers them by their alcunha seldom by their surname most families were known by an alcunha and they were usually passed down along the paternal line just like a surname in the United States, surnames however were inconsistently passed down. Surnames are even today seldom used in everyday conversation I suspect due to so many people sharing common surnames. If you walked into a village and asked for Manuel Cardoso most people wouldn't have any idea who you were talking about even though that may be that person's official surname, But if you asked for Manuel Melao(Melon) or Manuel Pombo(Pigeon) someone would figure out who you were talking about. Interestingly those are actual alcunhas for two different Cardoso lines. I've looked at the information from the Rol dos Confesados for 1883(This information was collected by the parish priest and documents all those of age to confess by household) and found some interesting alcunhas for some of mine and my wife's line's. Some I am able to translate, two are also used as surnames by some families Bonito(Handsome) and Craveiro others I found are Touro(Bull), Toucinho(bacon), Caipiras(Countrified, the American version I think would be Redneck), Zarigo, Burrinha(Donkey), Carocha(Bug), Zidro, Pe de Galinha(Chicken Foot, very interesting!) I have also noticed that some of my lines didn't have alcunhas recorded for some reason especially the one's that owned more property. I'm curious if anyone else would care to share their families alcunhas. Antonio On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:44:17 PM UTC-7, Anthony Martin wrote: I've been searching through various guides about Portuguese naming practices, but I haven't found anything related to this question. My mother-in-law is a Parreira, but she has mentioned that it is common for families to have nicknames. For example, someone by the name of Antonio Parreira may be known as a 'Galante' yet the surname 'Galante' is no where to be found. Other nicknames I've come across are what appear to be 'rrabola' and 'Ilhars'. Does anyone have an explanation for this? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] From Italy to Portugal - Death Record Info
I work with Italian records often, to provide background to citizenship application. If you are looking at 4th great grandfather's time period, I'd guess early 1800s? Trieste was not part of Italy until after 1918 when it was taken from the Austro-Hungarian Empire , where it was the main seaport and fourth largest city. It has passed in and out of Yugoslavia and Slovenian control I have not found any source for records from earlier than 1918 Italian . There are some indexes of church records called Kirchen-buch in German, but no parish books like we are blessed with in Portuguese research. It's currently in the province of Friuli-Venizia-Giulia Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Eileen Leite eileenle...@seleite.com wrote: Familysearch.org has a lot of Italian records online, these are the FHC films cleaned up and put online. They add more from time to time. They are not indexed for easy searching, you have to go through the film, but many times individual books have indices in front. I found it easy to find people. If you know the region and town and the approximate date, look and see what they have. The records are generally civil records, on a printed form that was then filled in with the information. Not so hard to read once you get the format. My understanding is that the law required civil registration of all births, marriages, and deaths (Thanks to Napoleon), so these records are a good source. If you are totally new to Familysearch.org, click on Search. To the right or at the bottom there is a map of the world, click on Europe and a list of countries will appear. Choose Italy and it will give you a list of Italian records to Browse. Eileen Leite *From:* Richard Francis Pimentel [mailto:rfrancispimen...@comcast.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:10 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] From Italy to Portugal - Death Record Info *When I was going to the local FHC I helped someone with Italian records. I Think the records were government records not the church records. I would think most all the Italian records have been filmed. There are a number of them at the local FHC. I would carefully look at the catalog for them.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *E Sharp *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:24 PM *To:* azores *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] From Italy to Portugal - Death Record Info Anyone familiar with Italian records? My 4th great grandfather's first wife is listed as deceased on his Portugal second marriage record (I am descended from this marriage). I am trying to find this first wife's marriage and death records to try and find out if he had any children with her. She is listed as dying in Trieste on the second marriage record. Someone gave me this FHC info: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... Trieste%22 https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20placeId=118160query=%2Bplace%3A%22Italy%2C%20Trieste%2C%20Trieste%22 I went there but I cannot seem to find Catholic Church records there. Am I missing something? I am taking an educated guess they also married in Trieste and would like to look at these records also. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] From Italy to Portugal - Death Record Info
E, Your text of the message is very small, need to rest it. Trieste was not part of Italy until its annexation following the First World War. It was the Mediterranian seaport of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. If church records can be found from that era, they will most likely be in German Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:24 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone familiar with Italian records? My 4th great grandfather's first wife is listed as deceased on his Portugal second marriage record (I am descended from this marriage). I am trying to find this first wife's marriage and death records to try and find out if he had any children with her. She is listed as dying in Trieste on the second marriage record. Someone gave me this FHC info: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... Trieste%22 https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20placeId=118160query=%2Bplace%3A%22Italy%2C%20Trieste%2C%20Trieste%22 I went there but I cannot seem to find Catholic Church records there. Am I missing something? I am taking an educated guess they also married in Trieste and would like to look at these records also. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name check Jose Tomas Pimentel Carneiro 1779, Flores
Steve, Sorry, the Anthony Sears stuff was for another Steve. Unless I click the name on the message it only shows you with first name. You said in a previous message that you are assuming that your great grandmother Filomena b. 1851 is attached to the Jose Thomas Carneiro family, and this is all built off that. I'm proposing that this Filomena Carneiro may actually be the one your looking for. Eric On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve woodrowme...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, For some reason I cannot see any posting in this thread containing Did you get my results on the Anthony Sears Recording search? except below in your own posting. Maybe it's a browser issue, but who is Anthony Sears? As for the Filomena baptism 1850 you refer to, I don't see how that could be her because the parents and grandparents are entirely different people: Filomena b. 27 Dec 1850 Joaquim Pimentel Carneiro Joao Pimentel Carneiro Ana Maria Mariana Julia Joao Pimentel Valadao Maria de Jesus http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P135.html In addition, I can find no records where Isabel de Jesus is referred to as Isabel Tomasia, except in her death record -- true? Steve On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:13:10 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: Filomena baptism 1850 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B- 1842-1857_item1/P135.html Eric On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: The obit you originally posted shows her as Isabel Thomasia. The 1841 birth record for Jose shows her as Isabel de Jesus There is an 1850 record for a Filomena Carneiro in Santa Cruz born to Joaquin Pimentel Valldao and Marianna Julia, maternos are Joao Pimentel Carneiro and Anna Maria. I don't have the exact date. Did you get my results on the Anthony Sears Recording search? Eric On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Steve woodro...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I know you're scrupulous, but I just want to be sure about the death identities for the following reasons: These two deaths are a major find because it means my great grandmother, Filomena b. 1851, cannot be their daughter, yet I have constructed my descendants around this assumption. (Talk about shaking a big tree). That is, they can't be her parents since José Tomás Pimentel Carneiro died on ? Jun 1844 and his wife Isabel de Jesus (Isabel Tomásia) died 16 Apr 1850. Indeed, my family records have always disagreed with this parentage (plus I've never been able to find Filomena's baptism record). I had been persuaded by other genealogical sources when I first started in 2012. Now eliminating Jose and Isabel as Filomena's parents fits with a revised scenario since I'm somewhat confident that I have found Filomena's real parents recently. However, I found no records in which Isabel de Jesus is listed as Isabel Thomasia. I found three children for her as Isabel de Jesus: Maria (Maria Isabel Carneiro Thomas) b. 9? Nov 1833 Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores d. 3 Oct 1927 Contra Costa County, California http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B- 1826-1841_item1/P107.html Manuel (Manuel T Thomas) b. 28 Nov 1837 Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores d. 1920 Antioch, Contra Costa, California http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B- 1826-1841_item1/P154.html Jose b. 4 Jul 1841 Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores d. unknown http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B- 1826-1841_item1/P194.html Many thanks, Steve -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
You can edit names and information for individuals in the Family Tree In either Family View or Ancestry view, click on the person, click view profile The edit button is at the top. You can then correct spelling, names and birth and death dates. You can add photos. I doubt that FTDNA is going to fix the spelling issue on their end, so I'm going through my page and fixing them. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi Cheri, I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not show up as connections. Any suggestions? Denise D'Antona Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Mary B, Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things. You got double first names and I got the middle name dropped. As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José. I sent it to them both as ANSI and ANSEL. Just add it to your list of things that you found with the trees Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that Gedcom. I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise. In my Gedcom, she is Helen Louise. That is why it wouldn't link her. I had to change it. So if have Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and everything, it may not show the link. Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show Altino as a link. This is a problem. Ugh. Cheri -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function. It's clear they took no input from any genealogist nor thought beyond the most simplistic model of how this would actually work. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Thank you Eric for your comment. I have my names entered a certain way - So let's say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not link because of the difference in his name? That is what I am trying to figure out. So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name. Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not showing up in my list of relatives. I'm just wondering if this could be why. Denise D'Antona On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
Tish, I didn't say they didn't solicit input from genealogists, I said the didn't take the input. The naming difficulties are not unique to Portuguese research, it's big problem for any Latin American and Scandanavian naming forms also. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said: Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most regular users for further testing. Sometimes all of the best planning and testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately. We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of the tree and I will add your comments to the mix. Thank you! I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns. This was their reply: Tish -- Anytime! I love getting honest feedback from our customers, especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers. Thank you for *your* time! Tish On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function. It's clear they took no input from any genealogist nor thought beyond the most simplistic model of how this would actually work. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Thank you Eric for your comment. I have my names entered a certain way - So let's say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not link because of the difference in his name? That is what I am trying to figure out. So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name. Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not showing up in my list of relatives. I'm just wondering if this could be why. Denise D'Antona On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up
Rosemarie, Have you noticed whether the program tries to connect the woman with the same religious surname? Eric Edgar is my last name, actually my second last name. It's Robledo Edgar. I'm used to naming difficulties in the Anglo-centric world On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote: Edgar, I went into my file and changed the mistakes also. I had the double surnames and I just deleted the middle one and it comes out alright. My problem is that the women with the given name and a religious name was not showing on the main page. I went it and put the Sao Joao or de Jesus in their surname field and it comes out correctly on the main 'tree'. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: You can edit names and information for individuals in the Family Tree In either Family View or Ancestry view, click on the person, click view profile The edit button is at the top. You can then correct spelling, names and birth and death dates. You can add photos. I doubt that FTDNA is going to fix the spelling issue on their end, so I'm going through my page and fixing them. Eric Edgar On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi Cheri, I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not show up as connections. Any suggestions? Denise D'Antona Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Mary B, Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things. You got double first names and I got the middle name dropped. As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José. I sent it to them both as ANSI and ANSEL. Just add it to your list of things that you found with the trees Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that Gedcom. I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise. In my Gedcom, she is Helen Louise. That is why it wouldn't link her. I had to change it. So if have Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and everything, it may not show the link. Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show Altino as a link. This is a problem. Ugh. Cheri -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name check Jose Tomas Pimentel Carneiro 1779, Flores
Filomena baptism 1850 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P135.html Eric On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The obit you originally posted shows her as Isabel Thomasia. The 1841 birth record for Jose shows her as Isabel de Jesus There is an 1850 record for a Filomena Carneiro in Santa Cruz born to Joaquin Pimentel Valldao and Marianna Julia, maternos are Joao Pimentel Carneiro and Anna Maria. I don't have the exact date. Did you get my results on the Anthony Sears Recording search? Eric On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Steve woodrowme...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I know you're scrupulous, but I just want to be sure about the death identities for the following reasons: These two deaths are a major find because it means my great grandmother, Filomena b. 1851, cannot be their daughter, yet I have constructed my descendants around this assumption. (Talk about shaking a big tree). That is, they can't be her parents since José Tomás Pimentel Carneiro died on ? Jun 1844 and his wife Isabel de Jesus (Isabel Tomásia) died 16 Apr 1850. Indeed, my family records have always disagreed with this parentage (plus I've never been able to find Filomena's baptism record). I had been persuaded by other genealogical sources when I first started in 2012. Now eliminating Jose and Isabel as Filomena's parents fits with a revised scenario since I'm somewhat confident that I have found Filomena's real parents recently. However, I found no records in which Isabel de Jesus is listed as Isabel Thomasia. I found three children for her as Isabel de Jesus: Maria (Maria Isabel Carneiro Thomas) b. 9? Nov 1833 Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores d. 3 Oct 1927 Contra Costa County, California http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P107.html Manuel (Manuel T Thomas) b. 28 Nov 1837 Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores d. 1920 Antioch, Contra Costa, California http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P154.html Jose b. 4 Jul 1841 Santa Cruz das Flores, Flores d. unknown http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P194.html Many thanks, Steve -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name check Jose Tomas Pimentel Carneiro 1779, Flores
It's Carneiro, This person can be found in many other records Yes the other obit is Isabel, wife of Jose Thomas Carneiro. She is his second wife also referred to as Isabel Thomasia in other records, His first wife was Maria de Jesus . He had eight children with her, then 2 with Isabel. Eric Edgar On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Today, the last name looks like it ends in da. Maybe someone else can take a look. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean music research
Here's his baptism from Sao Vicente Ferreira, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOVICENTE-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOVICENTE-B-1880-1889_item1/P127.html Eric Edgar On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:21 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the shiplist showing the family arriving from Sao Miguel in 1901 The next list shows his brother August returning with his wife to join Antonio. His birthplace shows as S, Vicente, Sao Miguel Cambridge 1916 directory, brothers at same address Eric Edgar On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:13 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, I had to take a look for his origin, as I have a Soares family in Oakland around that time. Here's why he was so hard to trace. Anthony Sears = Antonio Soares Botelho. Not one of my Pico folks , from Sao Miguel. I'll look some more, see if I can find the freguisia Eric Edgar On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Steve Peters spp1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, This is hopefully close enough to on-topic and of interest to folks on this list. As a composer and musician, part of my Azorean research interest is musical as well as genealogical, and in fact I was recently in the islands for three weeks working on a musical project (blog here http://spmrhouse.blogspot.com/). A friend just pointed me to this very interesting blog post http://excavatedshellac.com/category/azores/ about 78 RPM recordings of Azorean folk music made in Oakland, CA in the 1940s by an Anthony Sears/Antonio Soares. I'm posting it here partly because it's interesting to see how music researchers work much the same way as genealogy researchers, but also because there is a chance that someone on this list will be related to this Antonio Soares and might have more info about his recording business. At the end of the article there's a link for A Chamarrita Nova, that leads to an MP3 recording you can play and/or download. Worth a listen! Steve Peters researching Caetano Freitas and Maria Isabel Avellar from Flores (married/died in California) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Shipwreck 1759
The book, *A ilha das Flores: da redescobert a' actualidade *by Pimentel Gomes has a section on Naufragios (shipwrecks) around Flores and Corvo from 1536 - 1994 There is no mention of a 1759 event . Eric Edgar On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: It would be helpful if you posted the name of the ship that sunk on 20-Oct-1759, and the general location of the shipwreck. If you don't have that info you should realize that Azores has recorded over 900 shipwrecks - so some records do exist, however you may need to consult one of the regional libraries, such as Ponta Delgada, for that specialized information (don't expect any treasure galleons, they were salvaged as soon as the sank). As for the death record narrative, I've come across similar language, usually on a spouse's birth (bapt) record, where it states that the marriage was dissolved due to the death of the spouse. ~ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:15:54 PM UTC-4, GS1138 wrote: The death record for my 6th great grandfather documents him and seven other men who on 20 October 1759, died in a shipwreck. I been trying to find information on shipwrecks in the Azores and haven't found anything. Does anyone know of any book or sites on this subject? Also, on his birth record his mother is documented as a free woman. I have never seen this this phrase used in any other records. I was wondering if anyone else has seen this term used. I've attached both records in a word documents as well as the transcription and summary translation. Maria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Monte de Cima, Pico
Monte de Cima Distritos http://www.portugalio.com/distritos/ Açores http://www.portugalio.com/distritos/acores/ Madalena http://www.portugalio.com/madalena/ Candelária http://www.portugalio.com/madalena/candelaria/ *Freguesia*: Candelária *Concelho*: Madalena *Distrito*: Açores *GPS*: 38.448071, -28.502734 Código Postal Monte de Cima *9950-156 Candelária Mad* Válido para todas as moradas Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Safreno surname on Graciosa
Certainly the Safreno is an anglicized version. The family has heard many stories , but one has an orginal spelling on the surname. I know the NEPS project will standardize it to a Zeferino. The Joseph Sofrino in Boston states he is from Faial on his childs marriage record, and the Zeferino surname shows up there in Anguistas. The de Mello Sofrino from Bermuda sound like a promising lead. I sounds to me like a Jews or Arabic origin. Eric On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Any chance the name was originally Zeferino? Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Safreno surname on Graciosa From: luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com Date: Wed, August 20, 2014 10:48 am To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com I'm looking for the origin of this family on Graciosa. Manuel Souza Safreno ( or Manuel Silva Safreno) arrived 1893 or 1895 married Mary Regello around 1905. They lived in Contra Costa and Alameda counties. This name has come up before in the group. as a Zafreno and as a draft card for a Safreno Melo Frates in Oakland I feel this may be an alcunha. I know from Spanish that sofrenar is a verb : to restrain, repress, reprimand or curb. so yo ( eu) sofreno There is a large family in Boston Massachucetts descending from Joseph Sofrine a lobsterman b. 1848 Faial arriving 1878 and Manuel Sofrine b 1863 Mass. A 1922 Diario de Noticias article shows a M Sofrine in an East Boston social group. Some trees show that family from Terceira Those people found on the 1900 census Boston do not match with the: *8 July 1895 ship list for the Trindad that arrived in New York from Hamilton, Bermuda. * Manuel Sofrina 48 yrs Mrs Manuel Sofrina 40 yrs Mary 6yrs Manuel 3yrs Almena 1 yr, That family hasn't been found again census records. I've looked though all the fregusias baptism records from Graciosa around the 17 May 1876 birthdate shown without success. The family visited Santa Cruz , Graciosa back in the 80s and were shown a tavern that this Manuel Sofreno's mother was said to own. Eric Edgar. -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Safreno surname on Graciosa
I'm thinking it's not Zeferino because all the spelling variations have the same FR in them. I've seen Sofreno Sofrena Sofrene Sofrine Sufrina Zafreno Eric Edgar On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:11 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Zeferino is a regular Portuguese name. Of course, like every name, they can all be used by Jews. Oh yea, I just remembered, a variant spelling for Zeferino is Severino and that's almost a perfect match to your Anglicized version. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Safreno surname on Graciosa From: luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com Date: Wed, August 20, 2014 12:19 pm To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Certainly the Safreno is an anglicized version. The family has heard many stories , but one has an orginal spelling on the surname. I know the NEPS project will standardize it to a Zeferino. The Joseph Sofrino in Boston states he is from Faial on his childs marriage record, and the Zeferino surname shows up there in Anguistas. The de Mello Sofrino from Bermuda sound like a promising lead. I sounds to me like a Jews or Arabic origin. Eric -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Have you uploaded your DNA results to GEDMatch.com?
I've run my data through 6 different studies of Ethnic makeup. They consistently gave the same general porportions, which is reassuring, but within each general ethnic group, seemed to vary in content For example for the African markers, most studies uniformly gave Sub Saharan African, split between West and East Africa. One study showed tribal association of Omotic ( southern Ethiopia) and Mbuti-pygmy ( west equatorial) One study showed that it was mostly Northern African with some Western. Another showed twice as much Eastern as Western. It's all in how large and varied a population used for each model is in the studies. Eric Edgar On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:43 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: If you didn't yet try it, take a look also at the Eurogenes Jtest for percentages of Jewish ancestry. It gets more specific than the rest. Then there is one for Africa if you have any African. I'm finding there are many matches who tested with 23andMe and Ancestry, so it's so nice to see who else is out there that tested. Just found a 3rd cousin (projected) for one of my cousins using the One to many comparison feature. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Have you uploaded your DNA results to GEDMatch.com? From: IslandRoutes insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, August 14, 2014 9:10 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com It is interesting to see everyone's experiences with GEDMatch. I'm trying to encourage the researchers on the Portuguese Hawaiian Group on Facebook to upload their data so that more Portuguese researchers will be included. I have several estimated 4th generation matches. I've started emailing people today. If they are on my Azorean or French lines I should be able to figure it out. If it's the Britsh, Welsh, or Irish lines, I have much work to be done. I am almost hoping the other research has done more work than me so we can bridge the gap. I did make one positive connection on my de Braga line. I'm waiting for that person to email me back. I do wish the GEDCOMs were linked to the match entries. It would be easier. My surname searches don't seem to pull up anyone that is in my list. I'm having fun with the admixture stuff. It it interesting to compare the different break downs. The Eurogenes 36 seemed to be the most descriptive. I'm finding it's better to play with this after 10pm as it can be really slow in the day time. I still have a lot to learn about DNA research and interpreting my results. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Porciúncula
The full name of city when founded : El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula or The Town of Our Lady the Queen of Angels of the Porciúncula River The origin of the name Porciuncula: Porziuncola, also called Portiuncula (in Latin) or Porzioncula, is a small church located within the Basilica of Santa Maria degli Angeli in the frazione of Santa Maria degli Angeli, situated about 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) from Assisi, Umbria (central Italy) It is the place from where the Franciscan movement started Eric Edgar On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kalani N mamoah...@gmail.com wrote: Only time I've seen Porciuncula was in the name of the LA River. ;) Kalani On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:17:35 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Yes, that's the name, Eliseu. It's pretty rare. I have only 15 people in my database with that name. They range from the 1600s to the 1800s, at least those I have found. I have never seen it as a first name. It's always like the example Rick found, Maria da Porciúncula. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another name. From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, August 13, 2014 6:52 pm To: azo...@googlegroups.com You mean Porciúncula? *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome de *Richard Francis Pimentel *Enviada:* quarta-feira, 13 de Agosto de 2014 21:04 *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another name. *Thanks Eliseu,* *I think I was hitting around it does it mean striking as in a striking beauty?* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 4:16 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another name. Perciúncula or Porciúncula I think it was very used in Brasil for some time *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome de *Richard Francis Pimentel *Enviada:* quarta-feira, 13 de Agosto de 2014 19:55 *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Another name. *It has been raining since 6 this morning and it is an all-day rain. So I am working inside trying to eliminate my questions. This record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839_item1/P9.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839_item1/P9.html Left side the bride has an unfamiliar name. Any Ideas?* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores
Bob, These are very clear records. You should be able to recognize enough words within the format to get a basic translation by now. The object of the group is to help people develop skills for research, to coach them, not do it for them. Many of us here also do professional work . Full translations of multiple documents falls within that area. Eric Edgar On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:33 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: Translation help with Antonio #36 top left of page. http://goo.gl/WKkBAi thanks, Bob -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores
Bob, I'm saying you should help yourself by pulling out all that you can, identify what you don't understand and ask for help on those. That's how most of us here became proficient at it. This is a mutual help community, not a service. I've already spent a good 12 hours on our shared Flores families. I don't often do any professional work for Azores families. Eric Edgar On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Bob Luis rml...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I didn't know you were the overseer of this group to determine who should or shouldn't get a translation. We all learn at different paces and are at different levels of ability. But are you to judge? If you don't want to help somebody, then don't. The time you took to post your reply you could have been helping somebody professionally. Bob Luis On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:02 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, These are very clear records. You should be able to recognize enough words within the format to get a basic translation by now. The object of the group is to help people develop skills for research, to coach them, not do it for them. Many of us here also do professional work . Full translations of multiple documents falls within that area. Eric Edgar On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:33 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: Translation help with Antonio #36 top left of page. http://goo.gl/WKkBAi thanks, Bob -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/trYxbrc2r7Y/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores
Bob, What do you feel is the connection on this incognito baptism? We've been working with Cedros records mostly. I don't recognize the connection between the Coelho there and the Coelho Baeta here. Eric On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:33 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: Translation help with Antonio #36 top left of page. http://goo.gl/WKkBAi thanks, Bob -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname unknown)
I'm thinking it's likely a Jose or Joao etc, Fernandes, Baleeiro. His alcunha or even occupation as a whaler. You can find the Baleerio in Bahia records, but not until the 1890s. Maybe some background on where the information came from would help here. Eric Edgar On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hello Albert, Fernandes is a surname. Maybe his name was Fernando? Or maybe you are missing his given name and Fernandes Baleeiro is the compound surname. Your information about him coming from Graciosa matches what I know about people named Baleeiro. They are found elsewhere in small numbers, so can easily be found passing through Faial, Pico Terceira, Sao Jorge, etc. No need to travel to Faial for research when they put those records online this past year or so. The government site is called CCA and it's quoted all the time, nearly every day on this list. Look through past messages for the URL. Unfortunately, your lack of more information is a huge barrier to making further progress. I don't know this person. It seems to me you will have to find him in Bahia records to learn who he married, and most of all the names of his parents. Then you work back in time from there. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname unknown) From: Albert Figueras albert.figue...@gmail.com Date: Tue, August 12, 2014 6:03 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Dear all, We are trying to find some information on a man named Fernandes Baleeiro from Faial and Graciosa. As far as we know, he emigrated from Faial to Bahia (Brazil) in 1726. I'm aware that the information is scarce, but perhaps you could gide us on how to begin or where could we try to ask or search before going directly to Faial and spend som,e days there. Thank you in advance. Albert Figueras -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Have you uploaded your DNA results to GEDMatch.com?
I have uploaded my data to Gedmatch. Eric Edgar On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:07 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Marilyn, I'm still learning about it, too, but know enough to explain it. Basically, you get your autosomal test done, which you did, and download the files for each of your kits. Then you go to the gedmatch.com website and create an account. Right away you upload these files which contain the raw data and right away you can start looking at all the various ways to view your ethnic identity, plus you can compare right away your results to another person or to your own kits you administer. Once enough time has allowed them to process your uploaded data, such as two days, then you can compare your test kit results to everyone else in their database. You no longer need to know in advance their kit numbers. It just searches and finds the results for you. But studying and digesting these results is what I'm just getting into more now. Interpreting the data comes with practice. For instance, Antonio Faria has been comparing his results with amazing conclusions that I am still trying to figure out for myself. So it's very simple to do, but then you have to play around with it to get the most out of it. Boa noite, Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Have you uploaded your DNA results to GEDMatch.com? From: Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com Date: Mon, August 11, 2014 11:20 pm To: Cheri Mello azores@googlegroups.com Ok so somewhere along the line I missed out about this GEDMatch.com site. Can someone explain to me what it is? I am guessing the purpose of it is to find DNA matches. I would really like to know more about it. I have read the posts connected to this Have you uploaded your DNA results to GEDMatch.com? to be interested in it. I have access to 4 kits - 2 Portuguese and 2 non. Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] UPEC Death Claims Registers on Ancestry
Bob, Kathy said in the first message that they are included in another source: *California, Death and Burial Records from Select Counties, 1873-1987* http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 Eric On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Mary Bordi busybo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the council numbers! That's a big help! Mary On Thursday, August 7, 2014, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The deceased council number is the only clue to their location. Here are the council numbers for the time period this book covers. There may be more than this but the 1929 newspaper this is extracted from has only 1 page on the UMASS site Page is attached in PDF Eric Edgar UPEC - *Uniao Portuguesa do Estado da California est 1880* *Number Location* *1--San Leandro* *2--Hollister* *3--Hayward- * *4---Petaluma* *5---Centerville* *6---Mendocino* *7---East Oakland* *8---Pleasanton* *9--Milpitas* *10---Mission San Jose* *11---Sacramento* *12---Watsonville* *13--- West Oakland* *14---Sausalito* *15---San Francisco* *16---Alvarado* *17---Half Moon Bay* *18---Benicia* *19---San Rafael* *20--- Concord* *21---Selma* *22---Hanford* *23---Fresno* *24---Stockton* *25---Oakland* *26---Pinole* *27---San Pablo* *28---Santa Clara* *29---Merced* *30---San Francisco* *31---Santa Cruz* *32---San Jose* *33---Danville* *34---Yreka* *35---Pescadero* *36---Freeport* *37---Monterey* *38---Sebastapol* *39---Salinas* *40---Sacramento* *41---Ashland* *42---San Luis Obispo* *43---Wilmington* *44---Ventura* *45---Novato* *46---Mountain View* *47---Rio Vista* *48---Fairfield* *49---San Mateo* On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip, Kathy! I noticed something that people should be aware of when searching these records. In the County or Organizaiton field it says Portuguese Union of California. So, if you tried to search this database with a city or county name you will probably get no results. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:46:17 AM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote: I just discovered something you all may or may not know and I wanted to pass it along... The UPEC (Portuguese Union of California) Death Claims Registers are on Ancestry! If you search for them in the Card Catalog, you will NOT find them. They are included in another source: California, Death and Burial Records from Select Counties, 1873-1987 Part of the notes on this source say: This collection includes a variety of records from the counties of Butte, Colusa, El Dorado, Fresno, Santa Clara, Stanislaus, Sutter, and Yolo, as well as the Portuguese Union of California. Included you'll find: - death certificates, returns, and registers - burial permits - indexes to death records and obituaries - death benefit claim registers (Portuguese Union of California) These Death Claims Registers do include Alameda County. I have found 3 of my great grandfathers who died in Alameda County! So, enjoy! Good luck and happy hunting! Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism translation of Francisco - Cedros, Flores
I recall the Sousa was part of the maternos on Caetano's baptism Eric On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: This is how I read it: Francisco First of the name. 21 June 1865, (date baptised) Church: Nossa Senhora do Pilar, of Cedros, Village Santa Cruz, Flores born 8:00 at night, on 17 March 1865 PARENTS Jose de Souza, native same place X Maria Joaquina, native this freguesia. received this freguesia (married there?), residents Rua do Boeiro? PATERNAL Ignacio Jose X Maria Joaquina MATERNAL Francisco Jose dos Santos X Catharina dos Santos GODPARENTS Manoel Vicente, single and Anna de Jesus, single. I hope that someone else will chime in with more info than I could pick out. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* rml...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:51 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism translation of Francisco - Cedros, Flores Francisco is #3, Lower left. Need translation of Baptism entry: http://goo.gl/hkiKh0 Bob -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AUSENTE meaning
My great grandmother was married at 13 to a 35 yr old in 1909 with her mother as a witness in Stockton CA Eric Edgar On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Here's an interesting table of current age of consent to marry in the United States. In Massachusetts, a 12 year old female can marry a 14 year old male with parental consent. Wow! http://goo.gl/LelCSU I had a female cousin who married in the 1980s at the age of 15 (with parental consent). There's a whole story behind that! Research wise, I think the youngest female I have found was my mother's grandma. She was 14 at marriage in 1893 and 15 when her first child was born. I can't remember any males younger that 18. This is in American research however. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Posting Family Tree on Family Tree DNA
I've been trying to upload my Gedcoms for over a week,. Every attempt has turned up a warning that it is down for maintanence. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:29 PM, helen kerner hker...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What is pretty sad is that people like you are telling people like me to post it for your convenience. We do have other responsibilities that you are unaware of and posting the gedcom isn't at the top of the list for me. This would be an ideal world if we all had the time to post them at your timing for your convenience so that you could be more calm. But, this isn't an ideal world. Be glad that the 68 people that you refer to in this email got tested and gave you an opportunity to vent over ??? Perhaps a new vent might be to worry about everyone on this list that hasn't been tested. Now, wouldn't that be sad? Take a deep breath and know that gedcoms will be coming. I will post mine when I am ready. No sooner and no later. Best, helen cunha kerner On Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:52 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: I checked my FTDNA account of which I have 171 matches in the Azores project. Of that 171 only 68(40%) people have uploaded a gedcom. That's pretty sad that if you take the time to submit a sample that you can't take the time to submit a gedcom. On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:48:39 PM UTC-7, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *One of the most frustration things in Genetic Genealogy is having a match with a person and not being able to look for a common connection because no tree is posted on Family Tree DNA and all efforts to contact the match are fruitless. I have two 2nd Cousin matches and have tried numerous times and have had no response from them.* *When you post a tree on Family Tree DNA who can see it. If you believe that it is available to every and anyone who wants to look at it you are mistaken. The only person that can see the tree is someone that has a match with you or the project administrator. Another misconception on posting a tree on Family Tree DNA is that all your information is made available Only the basic information is posted such as Name, birth date and place, and death date and place. That is not much information but it is enough to find a common match. The other thing people are reluctant to display is any information on living persons. It is a matter of personal preference but anyone that knows how to use the inter net can find that information if they want. Any match with me can look at my GEDCOM on Family Tree DNA and see my birthday and place.* *If you have not posted your Family Tree Please Consider it even a partial tree is better than no tree.* *If you need help any of the Family Tree DNA Azores Project administrators can and most gladly assist any Azores DNA Project members.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello - gfsche...@gmail.com * *Rick Pimentel - rickredle...@gmail.com * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com* *Kalani Mondoy - mamo...@gmail.com * -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
Jose Ignacio de Medeiros resident of Lomba de Feteira Grande( 35 yrs)and Ana Rosa de Jesus (18 yrs) his parents: Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros ( native of the freguisia of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Achadinha) and Maria Francisca Resendes (native of this parish) Her parents Joao Cabral and Ludovina Rosa ( natives of this parish) This record is very clear. When I have trouble with the quality, I drop the image into Microsoft Paint or Photoshop, then adjust the contasts, or whatever neede to clear it up. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for your ancestors, but at the bottom you mention Achada and Santana. Achada has some of the worst records on Sao Miguel. I think the only records worse than part of Achada is Santa Maria island. There is a partial index for Achada marriages. It starts at the beginning (1680s) and goes to about 1730s if I remember correctly. I have a copy and I typed it up in Excel. Once you get to that time period and you're still in Achada (start hoping they came from somewhere else), send me an email and I'll send you the Excel file. It's going to be a bit of a struggle. I think I found an ancestor about the 1820s in Achada and most of her ancestors were from there. It was hard. I had to ask a lot of people to verify what I was reading. On the plus side, if you can read the stuff coming out of Achada, you'll be able to read anything. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear. I know of no other sources for Achada. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Hawaii Sugar Contract System
These are the films for the Portuguese consulate record of arriving passengers: Records for *Film 1031748: * 1. 1.Passaporte de viajante, 1924-1939 - Portugal. Consulado (Honolulu) - Hawaii. Collector of Customs 2. 2.Certificados de inscricão consular, 1929-1939 - Portugal. Consulado (Honolulu) - Hawaii. Collector of Customs 3. *Film 1017125: * 4. 1.Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913 - Portugal. Consulado Geral (Honolulu) 5. There are also these Index films: ndex (Portuguese) 1878-1900 Abelairas - Frietas, Maria Violanta deFamily History LibraryUnited States Canada Film1002634 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1002634 Index (Portuguese) 1878-1900 Frietas, Marques - Ricardo, Roza de JesusFamily History LibraryUnited States Canada Film1002635 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1002635 Index (Portuguese) 1878-1900 Rigo (Rego), Manoel de - Za's, Antonio VarquezFamily History LibraryUnited States Canada Film1002636 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1002636 Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, rachel disano rachelnmat...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uc8ZnKGt_Fs/U86hQnRQdGI/AEM/1_WCMOofmJo/s1600/31073_169455-00430.jpg i found this record in my search On Friday, July 18, 2014 10:32:00 PM UTC-3, IslandRoutes wrote: Someone asked a question about this, but I can't find the post. I researched this extensively when I wrote my research guide (an ebook) on Portuguese immigration to Hawaii during the sugar plantation era. A Hawaiian sugar plantation owner would fill out an order for labor, much like they would supplies. In Pau Hana, it gives a list that looks something like 10 boxes of nails 10 bags of flour 50 boards 10 Portuguese 5 Filipinos 3 Japanese Yes, they wrote out the nationality of the laborers they wanted and how many right on their supply list. In the Azores or Madeira, the person (or couple, married women signed contracts too) met with the agents from Hawaii. They signed their contract. They applied for a passport and arrangements were made for passage. All Portuguese who came over was processed through the Portuguese Consulate in Honolulu. It was at this time that they learned what sugar plantation they would be sent to. I am not sure if they had much say in the matter, for instance, if they already had family working on a plantation on one island. I don't think so. My feeling is after they finished their contract, they would move. But, they did not split up husbands, wives, and their children (children also worked in the fields at certains times of the year). Remember that the clever American businessmen were trying to populate the islands with what they saw as suitable immigrants (meaning, not Asian), so bringing over whole families was encouraged. The Portuguese Consulate records are probably the most overlooked records available for Hawaii researchers. I think they are called Portuguese Consulado General em Hawaii (or something very similar). The LDS Church has microfilmed the entire collection. Why they don't give much details (early entries only have names and dates), they tell you who in the family group actually set foot in Hawaii. This could be important to people trying to prove if a family member died aboard the ship or if babies were born on the ship. The contract itself has very little information. However, when a person completed their contract, the plantation manager made a note at the bottom with the name of the plantation and the date the contract was completed. They also signed it. It is a shame that their was no effort to preserve these records. They would answer that all important question of which sugar plantation did my ancestor live and work on. I have copies of Jozimas and Maria de Braga's contracts because Jozimas saved them and then someone had sense to pass them down through the line until they got to my cousin. And, luckily, she is researching the family tree and saw how important they are. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos
My experience earlier today looking at the NEPS site is that there are hundreds of Borba's found. Correia is less common. Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:05 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Edna Piedade is a freguesia on the island of Pico that is where my one ancestor with the surname Borba was from. Borba is frequently found on the island of Sao Jorge I have met several people from Calheta Sao Jorge with the surname Borba If you look on NEPS for Ribeira Seca Sao Jorge you will see several examples of Borba's in the 1800's but not on Pico. It is possible Joseph Coreia Borba was born on Pico but my hunch is his line traces to Sao Jorge and in Calheta you will find various Borba lines. I also remember hearing old timers talk about when it was required to have a passport to travel between Pico and Sao Jorge but not so between Pico and Faial my understanding travel was somewhat closely watched between islands for a period of time and not really encouraged. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on this subject would care to comment. Antonio On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:54:59 AM UTC-7, dave-edna wrote: Antonio, I am wondering if the family records could mean Piedade rather than Pico? My Lemos family is from Sao Jorge. I have just started looking at this Borba line so really just posted my note to see if someone else may have something that might help me.;) Thanks for your input. Edna (dave...@comcast.net Oh, that men would give thanks to the LORD for His goodness, and for His wonderful works to the children of men! Psalm 107:21 On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:59 PM, A Faria antoni...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cheri That is a surname very rarely found on Pico I have one in one of my line's in the early 1700's from Piedade it is found much more frequently in Sao Jorge. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Edna Lemos Epps,dave-edna at comcast.net I don't suppose anyone has a connection with a Joseph Coreia Borba dob 7-7-1875 in Pico? I don't know village. He came to USA in 1891 and settled in Northern California, Yreka or Hawkinsville area in Siskiyou, County. He married a Emilia Rose Lemos there in 1910. Emilia is a sister to my Grandfather George Lemos. Just curious as I see the Borba name on here. ♥Edna Lemos Epps -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos
=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+County_of_Death+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 D_yr http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/php/sql-a.php?server=1db=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+D_yr+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 D_mo http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/php/sql-a.php?server=1db=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+D_mo+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 D_dy http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/php/sql-a.php?server=1db=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+D_dy+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 SS_Number http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/php/sql-a.php?server=1db=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+SS_Number+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 Age http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/php/sql-a.php?server=1db=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+Age+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 idno http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/php/sql-a.php?server=1db=vitalsearchcapos=0sql_query=SELECT+Last_Name%2CFirst_Name%2CMiddle_Name%2CB_yr%2CB_mo%2CB_dy%2CMothers_Last_Name%2CFathers_Last_Name%2CSex%2CBp%2CCounty_of_Death%2CD_yr%2CD_mo%2CD_dy%2CSS_Number%2CAge%2Cidno+from+cadeaths_ygen00+where+1+and+Last_Name+like+%22borba%22+and+First_Name+like+%22manuel%22+and+D_yr+like+%221947%22+and+Sex+like+%22male%22sql_order=+order+by+idno+ASCtable=cadeaths_ygen00 BORBA MANUEL1879 01 21 MALE RE SANTA CLARA 1947 04 25 68 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:36 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: This link is of interest because you had Piedade, Pico as a possible origin for this family. The link for Seraphim here doesn't seem to relate to the Borba line, but does show that the mother Jacintha Rosa is from Piedade, Pico http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P17.html Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:11 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I took a search through the Portuguese newspaper database and found a a Uniao Portuguesa, 1898 obit listed for a Maria , daughter of Manuel Correa de Borba and Maria Candias of Boeiro, Sao Jorge. This is a small village around Topo. I followed the John C Borba to his death listing: *BORBA JOHN C 1879 10 18 TEXEIRA MALE RE SANTA CLARA 1962 07 14 571282553 82 * I went to the CCA site for Topo baptisms : http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P238.html This is for :* Joao born 18 Oct 1879 and baptized 1 Nov 1879, legitimate son of Manuel Correa de Borba and Maria Candidais , paternos Alexandre Correa and Maria Isabel...* *.maternos, Antonio Ignacio Texeira and Rozalina Candida* An exact match on birthdate and on mother's and father's surnames. The Borba will likely turn up as the family of Maria Isabel I think this is the origin and it's a matter of poking around the Topo baptisms to find Joseph's record. Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:44 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The 11 Apr 1898 ship manifest shows at line 25, Joao Correia Borba 18 yrs, 2 months old is sailing
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos
This link is of interest because you had Piedade, Pico as a possible origin for this family. The link for Seraphim here doesn't seem to relate to the Borba line, but does show that the mother Jacintha Rosa is from Piedade, Pico http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P17.html Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:11 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I took a search through the Portuguese newspaper database and found a a Uniao Portuguesa, 1898 obit listed for a Maria , daughter of Manuel Correa de Borba and Maria Candias of Boeiro, Sao Jorge. This is a small village around Topo. I followed the John C Borba to his death listing: *BORBA JOHN C 1879 10 18 TEXEIRA MALE RE SANTA CLARA 1962 07 14 571282553 82 * I went to the CCA site for Topo baptisms : http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P238.html This is for :* Joao born 18 Oct 1879 and baptized 1 Nov 1879, legitimate son of Manuel Correa de Borba and Maria Candidais , paternos Alexandre Correa and Maria Isabel...* *.maternos, Antonio Ignacio Texeira and Rozalina Candida* An exact match on birthdate and on mother's and father's surnames. The Borba will likely turn up as the family of Maria Isabel I think this is the origin and it's a matter of poking around the Topo baptisms to find Joseph's record. Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:44 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The 11 Apr 1898 ship manifest shows at line 25, Joao Correia Borba 18 yrs, 2 months old is sailing from St George to Provincetown, Mass, landing May 3rd. His destination is California where is to meet his brother Jose de Borba Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:39 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I think I've found a brother or cousin to help on searching Joseph's origin. The Siskiyou county marriage book shows John Borba marries Evalina Bell next to Joseph and Emiliy's entry The WW1 draft shows he is John C Borba , Evelina as wife. The 1910 census for Yreka shows him as John C Barber, and that he arrived in 1891, the same year that Joseph lists as his arrival Find a Grave entry http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=12937309 Eric Edgar On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I have come across a confusion with Pico as an origin a few times now. Although the census show Pico, and the family lore says from Pico, it has turned out to be Pico da Pedra in Ribeira Grande , Sao Miguel. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote: Antonio, I am wondering if the family records could mean Piedade rather than Pico? My Lemos family is from Sao Jorge. I have just started looking at this Borba line so really just posted my note to see if someone else may have something that might help me.;) Thanks for your input. Edna (dave-e...@comcast.net Oh, that men would give thanks to the LORD for His goodness, and for His wonderful works to the children of men! Psalm 107:21 On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:59 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cheri That is a surname very rarely found on Pico I have one in one of my line's in the early 1700's from Piedade it is found much more frequently in Sao Jorge. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Edna Lemos Epps,dave-edna at comcast.net I don't suppose anyone has a connection with a Joseph Coreia Borba dob 7-7-1875 in Pico? I don't know village. He came to USA in 1891 and settled in Northern California, Yreka or Hawkinsville area in Siskiyou, County. He married a Emilia Rose Lemos there in 1910. Emilia is a sister to my Grandfather George Lemos. Just curious as I see the Borba name on here. ♥Edna Lemos Epps -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group
