Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.
is that it? ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:54 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: ASP.NET How can one love it. You can delete this from the file system, then click the projects on the Start Page and they'll go away from the Recent Projects list that appears when you first launch. If you want to remove them from the Recent Projects list but don't want to dump them, just move the related files from both the Projects and WebSites folders to another folder, then click the project name in the list on the Start Page. When VS doesn't find the project files, it removes the entry from the Recent Projects list. Hope this helps. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Ian Skinner To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: ASP.NET How can one love it. Ok in reality I'm griping about Visual Studio (2005 Professional to be specific). I'm going through the How do I ... tutorials. So far I have done three and have had trouble with two of them. One, where the instructions where wrong, and a second, where something was wrong with my system configuration, have not developed a sense of love within by breast. Anyway, through all this I have created some projects that I do not want. They are stored in an undesirable place and I would like to remove them from my work space. I can't. I look up the instructions in the help and I get these. Deleting You can delete a project permanently, but not by using Visual Studio. You need to remove any references to the project you want to delete from solutions you have in Visual Studio, and then use Windows Explorer to delete the associated files from storage permanently. To permanently delete a project 1) In Solution Explorer, select the project you want to delete from the solution. 2) On the Edit menu, select Remove. 3) In Windows Explorer, locate and select the files associated with the project you want to delete. 4) On the File menu, select Delete. But this does not work. There is no Remove command in the Edit menu. So what am I supposed to do? -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242879 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: geocode database - world cities
Andrew Grosset wrote: and his blog about geolocater: actually the geoLocator CFC will only get you to the country-level. stuff finer than that, especially outside the US, is kind of iffy when it comes to mapping location from IP. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242880 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Coldfusion Administration
Hi Does any one have any presentaion and meterial related to Coldfusion MX administration. If anyone has could you please share the same? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242881 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion Administration
The manual is always a good start: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/part_adm.htm On 6/8/06, vishnu prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Does any one have any presentaion and meterial related to Coldfusion MX administration. If anyone has could you please share the same? -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242882 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 22:30, |Rens| 0 wrote: It just feels like a defeat, if you know what I mean ;) I just can't get it to work with the offered standard posibilities of ColdFusion. It feels like ColdFusion just doesn't do what it promises, and leaves me with an unworkable script. CF in not intended or promised to be a general purpose answer to every problem. Things like Bash (and the GNU toolset), now that's a general purpose solution :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242883 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion Administration
there was a podcast by coldfusionpodcast.com about the admin API - i would check that out. HTH On 08/06/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The manual is always a good start: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/part_adm.htm On 6/8/06, vishnu prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Does any one have any presentaion and meterial related to Coldfusion MX administration. If anyone has could you please share the same? -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242884 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Dave, I think you must have a browser sniffer that checks for any framework string structures in URLs and limits your download speed - lol. So are you telling us that not one site using frameworks is fast?? If so can you give some examples? Model Glue has had some speed issues recently but Joe has spent a lot of time tuning this and MG1.1 is a lot faster and Unity should be better still. Now I am coming in this conversation a little late but one of the great things I find about FWs is the scalability of them. Unless you've spent a lot of time implementing your own code structure/standards (personal framework) then I'm sure you will run into issues with scaling. Frameworks handle this very well as they have been tried and tested. This is just one of the pros. Frameworks aren't the be all and end all but they are a great starting point for any project. Check out what some people say about frameworks here: http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/4/28/cfFrameworkscom-survey-results-What-coldfusion-frameworks-are-used(more analysis coming soon). Nick On 07/06/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same connections I view everything else on, not like i use a special one for cf framework sites only ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Nathan Strutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:40 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Fusebox 4 Slow? Dave, Chack your network connections. Switch providers if it helps. Sounds to me like every site you visit is slow. I know, I know, and i'm just kidding, but really, you've never seen a speedy enough CF framework-driven or asp.net site? I've built and visited a number of each, most all quite fast (when on good or local hardware). Therefore, check your connection. Maybe your ISP is sending your signal through 14.4k modems. :D -nathan On 6/6/06, dave wrote: Yeah that can be true and is a good point. I really want to get into model-glue but I still remember something I read on here that was said, someone said that it was slow and the responce was yeah but it's doing so much underneath, but the user doesn't care what's underneath they want it fast. I'm assuming this is more or less the frameworks that use xml or so it seems but then again I really haven't seen a .net app that's fast either. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242885 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Large cfserver.log file a performance issue?
I have see the seefusion chaps helping out on the Reactor framework recently and for this reason if there is not much between the products then i would go for them. On 07/06/06, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, seefusion looks pretty sweet. I think I could actually talk my company into this. I searched the archives and found fusion-reactor mentioned as well. I didn't find any definitive opinions on which was one was better, though. Without starting any Thread Wars, does anyone have any quick, non-disparaging, helpful insights as to which of these products is better (price, customizable, usefulness) :) Thanks. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Large cfserver.log file a performance issue? check out this blog: http://www.webapper.net/ - the seefusion chaps run it i believe. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242886 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Documentation
I know a lot of you will run for the hills at the sight of the subject line, but it really is quite a simple question. How do you guys go about technical documentation, how do you write docs that tell other people (not necessarily technical, but project participants) how your code works, what the rules are, what the re-use potential is, how the UI works etc. What tools do you use for the job? Word? Visio? Wiki? How do you tackle it and when? Before writing your code? After? -- Neil Middleton Visit feed-squirrel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242887 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Documentation
Hi Neil, Trac is great for this, it keep everything together. Highly recommend it. On 08/06/06, Neil Middleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know a lot of you will run for the hills at the sight of the subject line, but it really is quite a simple question. How do you guys go about technical documentation, how do you write docs that tell other people (not necessarily technical, but project participants) how your code works, what the rules are, what the re-use potential is, how the UI works etc. What tools do you use for the job? Word? Visio? Wiki? How do you tackle it and when? Before writing your code? After? -- Neil Middleton Visit feed-squirrel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242888 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Documentation
On Thursday 08 June 2006 10:54, Neil Middleton wrote: that tell other people (not necessarily technical, but project participants) how your code works, what the rules are, what the re-use potential is, how the UI works etc. Why do non-technical people care about reuse ? They just want a 'how-do-I' and bit of handholding. If it's taking a long time or complex document, your UI probably sucks :-) What tools do you use for the job? Word? Visio? Wiki? We use a sort of wiki amongest the devlopers, and .doc for user-visable stuff. Generally as we go along for the developer docs - things tend to be in flux more often than not during the writing stage. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242889 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Documentation
I would say, anyone who is involved in a project either from a development or financial point of view cares about re-use as it has a direct effect on future costs. N On 6/8/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do non-technical people care about reuse ? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242890 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Documentation
On Thursday 08 June 2006 11:21, Neil Middleton wrote: I would say, anyone who is involved in a project either from a development or financial point of view cares about re-use as it has a direct effect on future costs. Fair enough. If you start telling non-technical people 'We spent twice as long on this project as we could have to reduce furture development time', that's OK, but there's no need to go into the detail of what you did ('wrote an abstract state manager for managing history logging and action execution'). -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242891 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfcompile alternative
JDT to the rescue! It's not included with CF, but it works. I posted a example on... lemme see... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/java_coldfusion_hacks/ Dan Plesse has put up a ton of stuff that relates as well. Good guy. He's the dude who asked me about the speech stuff - full of good ideas! :DeN Looks good but is there a way of translating the .cfm to .java first? Mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242892 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Documentation
How do you guys go about technical documentation, how do you write docs that tell other people (not necessarily technical, but project participants) how your code works, what the rules are, what the re-use potential is, how the UI works etc. What tools do you use for the job? Word? Visio? Wiki? How do you tackle it and when? Before writing your code? After? For us, the exact set of documentation deliverables is very project-dependent and is thrashed out at a high level at project initiation time and then in more details at the beginning of each project stage. It depends on the complexity of the job, the customer's expectations and the development method used for the project, but in general you need to have documentation tasks in all three places - beginning, middle and end. You need to document the functional and non-functional (performance etc) requirements up front or the project will fail. You need to document what you're doing at each stage in order to have a managed process (imo this is true even if you're doing agile development). And you need to document what you've done at the end, or the documentation will not reflect reality. We do still use Word/PDF for those documents where a simple, visible version control scheme is critical. We store everything in our web-based project support environment as a central reference point. Being basically a CMS, besides storing files it allows you to create more free-form web-based documentation as you go along, whether as traditional pages or blog/wiki/forum/helpfile entries. It also creates interactive diagrams. We use a lot of diagrams because they are information-rich and (some) customers can understand (some of) them. We use all sorts of diagramming techniques, both from UML and older toolsets. The only thing I would caution against is creating too many detailed how-to documents with embedded screenshots - they become a real pain when you want to change things. An up-to-date Captivate demo is much more likely to be correct and consistent. However, sometimes customers want things on paper. Nick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242893 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion Administration
IF i have any PPt it would be gr8 , i need to give a training in one of the college here . SO any presentation on coldfusion administration would be gr8 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242894 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
I think us folks who like frameworks are building enterprise web applications. I've been using strictly FB since 1999, but if I am charged with making a 7 page website for my neighbor's kid of course I'm not going to use a framework. But in a corporate enterprise situation, the maintainability is not debatable! I have been able to walk up to very complex FB applications and in 30 minutes be able to make effective changes for them. I have also worked on client applications using non-frameworked code that takes days or even WEEKS to effectively be able to make changes to. And when it comes to any significant functionality added or changed, in the spaghetti-code situation I or most consultants would only take the job on the premise of rewriting the whole thing. I'm no business expert, but which situation would you rather be in if you own the company? I think we're comparing apples and oranges is what I'm saying. I agree a framework may not be the way to go for a one-off simple website. But for an enterprise web application a framework will significantly add to the value of the software. And the Fusebox is slow statement is very outdated. Greg On 6/8/06, Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I think you must have a browser sniffer that checks for any framework string structures in URLs and limits your download speed - lol. So are you telling us that not one site using frameworks is fast?? If so can you give some examples? Model Glue has had some speed issues recently but Joe has spent a lot of time tuning this and MG1.1 is a lot faster and Unity should be better still. Now I am coming in this conversation a little late but one of the great things I find about FWs is the scalability of them. Unless you've spent a lot of time implementing your own code structure/standards (personal framework) then I'm sure you will run into issues with scaling. Frameworks handle this very well as they have been tried and tested. This is just one of the pros. Frameworks aren't the be all and end all but they are a great starting point for any project. Check out what some people say about frameworks here: http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/4/28/cfFrameworkscom-survey-results-What-coldfusion-frameworks-are-used(more analysis coming soon). Nick On 07/06/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same connections I view everything else on, not like i use a special one for cf framework sites only ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Nathan Strutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:40 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Fusebox 4 Slow? Dave, Chack your network connections. Switch providers if it helps. Sounds to me like every site you visit is slow. I know, I know, and i'm just kidding, but really, you've never seen a speedy enough CF framework-driven or asp.net site? I've built and visited a number of each, most all quite fast (when on good or local hardware). Therefore, check your connection. Maybe your ISP is sending your signal through 14.4k modems. :D -nathan On 6/6/06, dave wrote: Yeah that can be true and is a good point. I really want to get into model-glue but I still remember something I read on here that was said, someone said that it was slow and the responce was yeah but it's doing so much underneath, but the user doesn't care what's underneath they want it fast. I'm assuming this is more or less the frameworks that use xml or so it seems but then again I really haven't seen a .net app that's fast either. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242895 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
It just feels like a defeat, if you know what I mean ;) I just can't get it to work with the offered standard posibilities of ColdFusion. It feels like ColdFusion just doesn't do what it promises, and leaves me with an unworkable script. Well, CF is really not a general-purpose programming language. There are some things it does very well - stuff relating to generating HTML and talking to databases - and everything else is more or less secondary. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242896 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
Dave Watts wrote: It just feels like a defeat, if you know what I mean ;) I just can't get it to work with the offered standard posibilities of ColdFusion. It feels like ColdFusion just doesn't do what it promises, and leaves me with an unworkable script. Well, CF is really not a general-purpose programming language. There are some things it does very well - stuff relating to generating HTML and talking to databases - and everything else is more or less secondary. I agree with you on your first point. If the documentation states however, that the offered functionality should perform in a certain way, it should do so. If it doesn't, I just call it a bug. Rens ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242897 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfcompile alternative
Looks good but is there a way of translating the .cfm to .java first? Have you tried invoking coldfusion.tools.Compiler directly? That's essentially all the cfcompile.bat file does. As someone mentioned, you won't be able to do this from the file that you want to compile, but if you simply want to compile one file from another, I suspect this would work. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242898 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
If the documentation states however, that the offered functionality should perform in a certain way, it should do so. If it doesn't, I just call it a bug. Sure. But every complex application has plenty of these sorts of bugs. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242899 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
On Thursday 08 June 2006 13:42, |Rens| 0 wrote: If the documentation states however, that the offered functionality should perform in a certain way, it should do so. If it doesn't, I just call it a bug. I agree. If the docs say one thing, and it does another either the docs or CF are broken. Write a note on the web documentation page, and the MM folks are fairly good about getting back to you. AFAIK CF doesn't allow you to 'reopen' CFFTP connections that have failed, though. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242900 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Status of ActivMail?
Hi, Does anyone know the status of ActivMail, is it still in development? I just had a dig around and it looks like the site hasn't been updated in a while. I'm looking for a solution to send out more emails than cfmail can handle on CF7 on MacOS X (with SMTP server on separate Win2k box). Cheers, Ant -- outsrc outsource your internet requirements www.outsrc.co.uk ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242901 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Status of ActivMail?
Check out inFusion Mail Server http://www.coolfusion.com/products/ims/index.cfm Or Matt Robertson's mail trickler http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMail_2004.cfm From: Ant Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 8:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Status of ActivMail? Hi, Does anyone know the status of ActivMail, is it still in development? I just had a dig around and it looks like the site hasn't been updated in a while. I'm looking for a solution to send out more emails than cfmail can handle on CF7 on MacOS X (with SMTP server on separate Win2k box). Cheers, Ant -- outsrc outsource your internet requirements www.outsrc.co.uk ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242902 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
Dave Watts wrote: If the documentation states however, that the offered functionality should perform in a certain way, it should do so. If it doesn't, I just call it a bug. Sure. But every complex application has plenty of these sorts of bugs. Nice logic there ;) Ok, let me first state that it's not my intention to start a rant about ColdFusion. Secondly, I have yet to confirm that what I *think* is a bug, actually *is* a bug. But some of the people on this list will have to agree with me that CF has a relatively large amount of 'obscure behaviour' so to speak. Then again: I'm brand new here on this list, and I guess it would be wise to keep a low profile and see what is said around here. From what I've seen so far, I'm very pleased with the quality of the posts around here. Rens ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242903 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Find which records have changed over a 7 day period.
Anyone care to chime in on this? I've posted a thread which hasn't gotten many responses yet and I'm wondering if any of you SQL wizards have input. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389438 !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242904 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
Ok, let me first state that it's not my intention to start a rant about ColdFusion. Secondly, I have yet to confirm that what I *think* is a bug, actually *is* a bug. Whether it's a bug or not, or whether Adobe confirms it as a bug, there are a lot of things that CF does adequately for most purposes, but not exceptionally well. Talking to external servers via common internet protocols has always been a weak point for CF - the functionality would usually work well enough for most uses, but not for all. But some of the people on this list will have to agree with me that CF has a relatively large amount of 'obscure behaviour' so to speak. Absolutely. Fortunately, most of this sort of behavior is around the edges of the product, those tasks that are largely secondary to what CF is designed to do. Then again: I'm brand new here on this list, and I guess it would be wise to keep a low profile and see what is said around here. From what I've seen so far, I'm very pleased with the quality of the posts around here. From what I've seen so far, there's nothing wrong with the quality of your posts, either. So don't worry too much about your profile. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242905 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: accesskey conundrum
Damien... I like your idea of jumping to the first field in each section. Because honestly. Who's going to remember every key command for your form? Just give them 5 or 10 and they'll be happy. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: accesskey conundrum Here's the story. I'm working on a series of somewhat long forms that I'd like to make completely accessible using accesskeys in addition to other basics (labels, pure CSS layout, etc). The problem is that I'm ending up with more fields than accesskeys makes sense for, and there are multiple fields that could/should use the same key. One idea I had was to have one accesskey defined for the top field in each fieldset then just let them tab between the different fields, but that isn't great in e.g. OSX that has fairly crappy keyboard navigation anyway. So what do y'all do to overcome this for your accessible forms? Thanks. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242906 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RDS in CFEclipse
According to the docs on the labs site, CFEclipse should talk RDS now, yet despite upgrading to the latest stable, I don't see the new menu options. Anyone else getting this, working or not ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242907 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFEclipse tabbing
Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242909 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfopen?
FYI all, cfopen seems to be back online. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242908 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period.
Andy Matthews said: Anyone care to chime in on this? I've posted a thread which hasn't gotten many responses yet and I'm wondering if any of you SQL wizards have input. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389438 SELECT v_player, CASE WHEN MAX(v_pop) = MIN(v_pop) THEN 'same' ELSE 'changed' END AS activity FROM x_world GROUP BY v_player Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242910 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period.
On Thursday 08 June 2006 14:18, Andy Matthews wrote: Anyone care to chime in on this? I've posted a thread which hasn't gotten many responses yet and I'm wondering if any of you SQL wizards have input. It looks like your there. You just do select .. where ... and date (select max date...) and date (select min date..) as you say you've got the min/max query. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242911 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period.
I am not sure I understand what you want to do. Can't you just delete any record where the date is greater than 7 days ago? Maybe answer this: How do you tell if you should delete a record? ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Avenue Floor 10 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Some people call me the space cowboy. Some people call me the gangster of love. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period. Anyone care to chime in on this? I've posted a thread which hasn't gotten many responses yet and I'm wondering if any of you SQL wizards have input. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389438 !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242912 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: RDS in CFEclipse
check out this post: http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/5/25/RDS-plugin-for-cfeclipse On 08/06/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the docs on the labs site, CFEclipse should talk RDS now, yet despite upgrading to the latest stable, I don't see the new menu options. Anyone else getting this, working or not ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242913 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: RDS in CFEclipse
RDS is a macromedia eclipse extension. You download it from adobe labs under the Flex stuff. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RDS in CFEclipse According to the docs on the labs site, CFEclipse should talk RDS now, yet despite upgrading to the latest stable, I don't see the new menu options. Anyone else getting this, working or not ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242914 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
I have also worked on client applications using non-frameworked code that takes days or even WEEKS to effectively be able to make changes to. This has strickly nothing to do with the app being frameworked or not. In fact, the ideal situation is when 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is light and simple, 3, you have a fairly good experience with the framework, 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is heavy and too complex, 3, you have no experience with the framework, Unfortunately, the worse conditions are met much more often than the ideal, especially with FB which is ridilulously heavy and complex for nothing. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242915 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period.
What about adding a last_changed column to your table. The initial value would be the date the record was entered. On edits to that record, this value would be edited (changed) to reflect the date those edits took place. Then, finding records that didn't change in the last seven days is a matter of doing a select where last_changed today's date minus 7 days. HTH. Anyone care to chime in on this? I've posted a thread which hasn't gotten many responses yet and I'm wondering if any of you SQL wizards have input. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389438 !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242916 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Capturing executed SQL in CF
Have you tried using profiler? That way you don't need to change a line of code. Leon -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Capturing executed SQL in CF cfquery ... result=BoyGeorge ... /cfquery cfoutput#BoyGeorge.sql#/cfoutput cfdump var=#BoyGeorge# -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242917 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: accesskey conundrum
I'm not a big fan of access keys because of how they interfere with the shortcuts I've set up in my environment and much-discussed accessibility issues, but when I do use them on forms for whatever reason, I tend to follow the Windows UI standard of underlining the letter in the label that, in conjunction with the Alt key activates the shortcut. Most of the people that are likely to use the shortcuts generally seem to recognize the convention, from what I've seen. On 6/8/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damien... I like your idea of jumping to the first field in each section. Because honestly. Who's going to remember every key command for your form? Just give them 5 or 10 and they'll be happy. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: accesskey conundrum Here's the story. I'm working on a series of somewhat long forms that I'd like to make completely accessible using accesskeys in addition to other basics (labels, pure CSS layout, etc). The problem is that I'm ending up with more fields than accesskeys makes sense for, and there are multiple fields that could/should use the same key. One idea I had was to have one accesskey defined for the top field in each fieldset then just let them tab between the different fields, but that isn't great in e.g. OSX that has fairly crappy keyboard navigation anyway. So what do y'all do to overcome this for your accessible forms? Thanks. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242918 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period.
I think that is a viable solution, set the last_changed column to be auto-populated with Now() or Dtae() Whatever is it, sorry don't remember that one right now. -Original Message- From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Find which records have changed over a 7 day period. What about adding a last_changed column to your table. The initial value would be the date the record was entered. On edits to that record, this value would be edited (changed) to reflect the date those edits took place. Then, finding records that didn't change in the last seven days is a matter of doing a select where last_changed today's date minus 7 days. HTH. Anyone care to chime in on this? I've posted a thread which hasn't gotten many responses yet and I'm wondering if any of you SQL wizards have input. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389438 !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242919 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse tabbing
This has been a problem for me as well. I posted an early thread about this and it seemed there was no concensus. I believe Mark chimed in that cursor positioning and tabbing was a mess in the source and pretty well needed to be rewritten. I format my tags like so: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / And have all the same issues you're having. I'll try to dig my earlier post and add it to this thread... On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242920 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse tabbing
As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242921 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Vendor based JDBC vs Datadirect
Has anyone done any comparissons between the JDBC drivers created by Oracle and Microsoft compared to the datadirect drivers? I'm curious to see if there is a performance advantage between them. Bob Everland ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242922 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: accesskey conundrum
Except for people of course who can't see the underlines. If you are going to use accesskeys (and really they cause more accessibility problems than they solve), then you also need to create and link to an accessibility statement for the page which gives a reference to the access keys used and what they do. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: accesskey conundrum I'm not a big fan of access keys because of how they interfere with the shortcuts I've set up in my environment and much-discussed accessibility issues, but when I do use them on forms for whatever reason, I tend to follow the Windows UI standard of underlining the letter in the label that, in conjunction with the Alt key activates the shortcut. Most of the people that are likely to use the shortcuts generally seem to recognize the convention, from what I've seen. On 6/8/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damien... I like your idea of jumping to the first field in each section. Because honestly. Who's going to remember every key command for your form? Just give them 5 or 10 and they'll be happy. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: accesskey conundrum Here's the story. I'm working on a series of somewhat long forms that I'd like to make completely accessible using accesskeys in addition to other basics (labels, pure CSS layout, etc). The problem is that I'm ending up with more fields than accesskeys makes sense for, and there are multiple fields that could/should use the same key. One idea I had was to have one accesskey defined for the top field in each fieldset then just let them tab between the different fields, but that isn't great in e.g. OSX that has fairly crappy keyboard navigation anyway. So what do y'all do to overcome this for your accessible forms? Thanks. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242923 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Vendor based JDBC vs Datadirect
I know, from various posts on the subject, that the vendor drivers from Oracle are missing features that are present in the CF Enterprise driver (including decent CFSTOREDPROC compatibility and the ability to natively work with BLOBS). On 6/8/06, Robert Everland III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone done any comparissons between the JDBC drivers created by Oracle and Microsoft compared to the datadirect drivers? I'm curious to see if there is a performance advantage between them. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242924 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
timeout request settings
I was curious as to what others have their timeout set to in the cf administrator. We have an app that uploads files to the server, sometimes 30+MB and currently set to 60 seconds which sometimes times out. In this case i manually increase the timeout and re-upload the file. I'm hesitant to increase the timeout too much to prevent too many long processes. Jason Rogoz Programmer / Analyst Zoom Communications Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada Office: (403) 229-2511 Fax: (403) 229-4211 Toll Free: 1-866-698-8932 www.zoomcom.ca http://www.zoomcom.ca/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242925 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: timeout request settings
So, why don't you use cfsetting and do it on a script-by-script basis? Jason Rogoz wrote: I was curious as to what others have their timeout set to in the cf administrator. We have an app that uploads files to the server, sometimes 30+MB and currently set to 60 seconds which sometimes times out. In this case i manually increase the timeout and re-upload the file. I'm hesitant to increase the timeout too much to prevent too many long processes. Jason Rogoz Programmer / Analyst Zoom Communications Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada Office: (403) 229-2511 Fax: (403) 229-4211 Toll Free: 1-866-698-8932 www.zoomcom.ca http://www.zoomcom.ca/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242926 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
What are some ways to make URLs more friendly for our product pages? My marketing guy wants to put these types of URLs in his ads: mydomain.com/ProductA mydomain.com/ProductB mydomain.com/ProductC I know I can do a subdirectory named ProductA and use cflocation to do a redirect, but is their an easier way when I have 50 or more possiblities? I'd rather not have to create a directory and a default.cfm per product. One thought I had was to change the slash to a question mark. But I'm not sure if the marketing dude will go for it. Thanks. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drive us, Neo. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242927 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Vendor based JDBC vs Datadirect
Has anyone done any comparissons between the JDBC drivers created by Oracle and Microsoft compared to the datadirect drivers? I'm curious to see if there is a performance advantage between them. I doubt you'll find any official comparisons, since Oracle's license precludes them if I recall correctly. In my experience, there are so many variables that can contribute to which driver will perform best for a specific application that there are no hard and fast guidelines. As a result, I simply use the DataDirect drivers if they work, and try other ones if they don't. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242928 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
What does the real product URL look like? Maybe some kind of redirect in your application.cfm, but we'd need to see the real link to see how it's structured. Damn those marketing guys. :) Matt Williams wrote: What are some ways to make URLs more friendly for our product pages? My marketing guy wants to put these types of URLs in his ads: mydomain.com/ProductA mydomain.com/ProductB mydomain.com/ProductC I know I can do a subdirectory named ProductA and use cflocation to do a redirect, but is their an easier way when I have 50 or more possiblities? I'd rather not have to create a directory and a default.cfm per product. One thought I had was to change the slash to a question mark. But I'm not sure if the marketing dude will go for it. Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242929 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: RDS in CFEclipse
On Thursday 08 June 2006 14:42, Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk wrote: check out this post: http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/5/25/RDS-plugin-for-cfeclipse Ah ha. Buggered URL in the Beta3 docs :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242930 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Hi Claude, 2, the framework is heavy and too complex, Any system you work with could be heavy and too complex - this is not just specific to frameworks? 3, you have no experience with the framework, Would you have experience with the new client code base - frameworked or not? At least with point 3 when you discover the same framework down the line this point won't be true. On 08/06/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also worked on client applications using non-frameworked code that takes days or even WEEKS to effectively be able to make changes to. This has strickly nothing to do with the app being frameworked or not. In fact, the ideal situation is when 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is light and simple, 3, you have a fairly good experience with the framework, 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is heavy and too complex, 3, you have no experience with the framework, Unfortunately, the worse conditions are met much more often than the ideal, especially with FB which is ridilulously heavy and complex for nothing. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242931 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: accesskey conundrum
LOL. Good point. On 6/8/06, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for people of course who can't see the underlines. If you are going to use accesskeys (and really they cause more accessibility problems than they solve), then you also need to create and link to an accessibility statement for the page which gives a reference to the access keys used and what they do. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: accesskey conundrum I'm not a big fan of access keys because of how they interfere with the shortcuts I've set up in my environment and much-discussed accessibility issues, but when I do use them on forms for whatever reason, I tend to follow the Windows UI standard of underlining the letter in the label that, in conjunction with the Alt key activates the shortcut. Most of the people that are likely to use the shortcuts generally seem to recognize the convention, from what I've seen. On 6/8/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damien... I like your idea of jumping to the first field in each section. Because honestly. Who's going to remember every key command for your form? Just give them 5 or 10 and they'll be happy. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: accesskey conundrum Here's the story. I'm working on a series of somewhat long forms that I'd like to make completely accessible using accesskeys in addition to other basics (labels, pure CSS layout, etc). The problem is that I'm ending up with more fields than accesskeys makes sense for, and there are multiple fields that could/should use the same key. One idea I had was to have one accesskey defined for the top field in each fieldset then just let them tab between the different fields, but that isn't great in e.g. OSX that has fairly crappy keyboard navigation anyway. So what do y'all do to overcome this for your accessible forms? Thanks. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242932 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: timeout request settings
I typically keep my timeout pretty low in the administrator and, as Crow suggested, use cfsetting to up it as needed for specific templates. On 6/8/06, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, why don't you use cfsetting and do it on a script-by-script basis? Jason Rogoz wrote: I was curious as to what others have their timeout set to in the cf administrator. We have an app that uploads files to the server, sometimes 30+MB and currently set to 60 seconds which sometimes times out. In this case i manually increase the timeout and re-upload the file. I'm hesitant to increase the timeout too much to prevent too many long processes. Jason Rogoz Programmer / Analyst Zoom Communications Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada Office: (403) 229-2511 Fax: (403) 229-4211 Toll Free: 1-866-698-8932 www.zoomcom.ca http://www.zoomcom.ca/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242933 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse tabbing
Thanks Rob... Its upsetting that I just took the morning to try and get comfortable with Eclipse (and move away from my girl-on-the-side, Homesite) and already I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity. I have to start backspacing every tab that get's created, I might go insane. -ben ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242934 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
Matt, I currently set up a 404 page not found handler that catches page-not-founds and then checks the URL and includes the more appropriate file or redirects to the better URL. On a 404 catching, IIS will throw the query string: 404:http:// Which should contain the page that was requested. Then its just a matter of parsing out the url. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content What are some ways to make URLs more friendly for our product pages? My marketing guy wants to put these types of URLs in his ads: mydomain.com/ProductA mydomain.com/ProductB mydomain.com/ProductC I know I can do a subdirectory named ProductA and use cflocation to do a redirect, but is their an easier way when I have 50 or more possiblities? I'd rather not have to create a directory and a default.cfm per product. One thought I had was to change the slash to a question mark. But I'm not sure if the marketing dude will go for it. Thanks. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drive us, Neo. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242935 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
This article may help you. It's what I use for House of Fusion's URLs. http://www.fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4226-Search-Engine-Safe-SES-URLs.htm What are some ways to make URLs more friendly for our product pages? My marketing guy wants to put these types of URLs in his ads: mydomain.com/ProductA mydomain.com/ProductB mydomain.com/ProductC I know I can do a subdirectory named ProductA and use cflocation to do a redirect, but is their an easier way when I have 50 or more possiblities? I'd rather not have to create a directory and a default.cfm per product. One thought I had was to change the slash to a question mark. But I'm not sure if the marketing dude will go for it. Thanks. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drive us, Neo. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242936 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
Crow, the real url is something like mydomain.com/viewproduct.cfm?productid=123 Matt On 6/8/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article may help you. It's what I use for House of Fusion's URLs. http://www.fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4226-Search-Engine-Safe-SES-URLs.htm What are some ways to make URLs more friendly for our product pages? My marketing guy wants to put these types of URLs in his ads: mydomain.com/ProductA mydomain.com/ProductB mydomain.com/ProductC I know I can do a subdirectory named ProductA and use cflocation to do a redirect, but is their an easier way when I have 50 or more possiblities? I'd rather not have to create a directory and a default.cfm per product. One thought I had was to change the slash to a question mark. But I'm not sure if the marketing dude will go for it. Thanks. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drive us, Neo. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242937 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
Hey Michael, I have seen that article before and I should start using that technique for search engine stuff. The only thing my Marketing guy probably won't like about it is that you're still putting 'someFileName.cfm' in there. Because our product codes are actually only two letters he wants it like this (and here is a real example ya'll can go to). http://www.keystonesymposia.org/E6 Matt On 6/8/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article may help you. It's what I use for House of Fusion's URLs. http://www.fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4226-Search-Engine-Safe-SES-URLs.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242938 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
In fact, the ideal situation is when A line is missing in my last message: the ideal situation is when 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is light and simple, 3, you have a fairly good experience with the framework, *the worse situation is when* 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is heavy and too complex, 3, you have no experience with the framework, -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242939 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Any system you work with could be heavy and too complex - this is not just specific to frameworks? Right, I meant heavy frameworks in the worse situation, a line was missing, sorry. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242940 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Unfortunately, the worse conditions are met much more often than the ideal, especially with FB which is ridilulously heavy and complex for nothing. I don't think you should flatly say this. Unless you are completely versed in the latest FB4.1 or 5 you are just parroting blather you heard from someone. Ony overhead to FB is not for nothing. There is a purpose for all of it. Unless like I said before if you are making a little brochure website. Greg On 6/8/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also worked on client applications using non-frameworked code that takes days or even WEEKS to effectively be able to make changes to. This has strickly nothing to do with the app being frameworked or not. In fact, the ideal situation is when 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is light and simple, 3, you have a fairly good experience with the framework, 1, it is frameworked, 2, the framework is heavy and too complex, 3, you have no experience with the framework, Unfortunately, the worse conditions are met much more often than the ideal, especially with FB which is ridilulously heavy and complex for nothing. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242941 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
Theres lots of fiddly things you can do, Isapi filters (IIS), mod_rewrite (Apache) , missing template handlers e.t.c But if you only have 50 products, and they're in a database, then why not write a CF script that does actually make the folders? For the sake of tidyness, see if your marketing guy will be happy with /go/E6 urls. Then its a very simple and reliable matter of a cfquery, a cfloop, a cfdirectory and a cffile Matt Williams wrote: Hey Michael, I have seen that article before and I should start using that technique for search engine stuff. The only thing my Marketing guy probably won't like about it is that you're still putting 'someFileName.cfm' in there. Because our product codes are actually only two letters he wants it like this (and here is a real example ya'll can go to). http://www.keystonesymposia.org/E6 Matt On 6/8/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article may help you. It's what I use for House of Fusion's URLs. http://www.fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4226-Search-Engine-Safe-SES-URLs.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242942 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
you are just parroting blather you heard from someone. Ony overhead to FB is not for nothing. There is a purpose for all of it. No, I had to make some modifications once in a FB application, so I had to learn it. The only thing I can say is that if I had to rewrite the same app my way, (call it my own framework), it would have taken ten times less code, and it would take ten times less time for anyone else to get into it for a modification. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242943 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse tabbing
Yeah, I've had some growing pains myself, but I've found enough that I really like about Eclipse that it's been my only IDE for several months now. The stuff HS+ had that I liked wasn't that critical to my daily workflow, I've found. I set up snippets for a lot of my tags so the indenting is maintained. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rob... Its upsetting that I just took the morning to try and get comfortable with Eclipse (and move away from my girl-on-the-side, Homesite) and already I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity. I have to start backspacing every tab that get's created, I might go insane. -ben ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242944 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Ah, you made some modifications to an app once so you learned it. Gotcha. I drove a Ford once and got lost. I guess Ford's suck. I'm going to build my own car! :-) Greg On 6/8/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are just parroting blather you heard from someone. Ony overhead to FB is not for nothing. There is a purpose for all of it. No, I had to make some modifications once in a FB application, so I had to learn it. The only thing I can say is that if I had to rewrite the same app my way, (call it my own framework), it would have taken ten times less code, and it would take ten times less time for anyone else to get into it for a modification. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242945 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: RDS in CFEclipse
Sorry Tom, The RDS Plugin is an Adobe (tm) product. It works well with CFEclipse but its not exactly *integrated* its all part of Eclipse though :) MD On 8 Jun 2006, at 16:05, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 08 June 2006 14:42, Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk wrote: check out this post: http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/5/25/RDS-plugin-for-cfeclipse Ah ha. Buggered URL in the Beta3 docs :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242946 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
Then its a very simple and reliable matter of a cfquery, a cfloop, a cfdirectory and a cffile This is what I do for www.sierraoutdoorrecreation.com. Part of the publishing logic is to build pages for each entry. The pages just consist of two lines of code: cfset locationID = 13!--- The id of the location for this page to display. --- cfinclude template=locationTemplate.cfm Then with a couple of cfdirectory and cffile tags I write that page out to my file system. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242947 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
The only other option then is to use an ISAPI rewriter or short circut the 404 handler. Fusion Authority uses the latter to produce the pages you see. Each is dynamic and does not need the .htm extension but I add it for better search engine presence. Google seems to like the idea of thousands of files a lot better than thousands of directories. Hey Michael, I have seen that article before and I should start using that technique for search engine stuff. The only thing my Marketing guy probably won't like about it is that you're still putting 'someFileName.cfm' in there. Because our product codes are actually only two letters he wants it like this (and here is a real example ya'll can go to). http://www.keystonesymposia.org/E6 Matt On 6/8/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article may help you. It's what I use for House of Fusion's URLs. http://www.fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4226-Search-Engine-Safe-SES-URLs.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242948 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
BlogCFM does it in what I think is a particularly nasty way. Every time I create a new blog entry, it creates subdirectories for the year and month if they don't already exist, then creates a friendly filename based on the title of the blog entry, and creates the file in the created subdirectory on the server that essentially contains only two lines, one line that sets an ENTRY_ID variable and the other that does a cfinclude. It requires the use of a CF mapping, and has been one of the more obnoxious things to support. URL-rewriting is probably much friendlier. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242949 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
I'm going to build my own car cant help stick my nose in here and say thats a real bad analogy everyday people change bits on fords to make them go faster, theres an industry built around it! Also: There is no app in the world that cant be refined Also: I much prefer to work on something I can google, like FB. I cant google for how does gregs code work (though this far down the line im not sure if you were pro or anti... ) Greg Luce wrote: Ah, you made some modifications to an app once so you learned it. Gotcha. I drove a Ford once and got lost. I guess Ford's suck. I'm going to build my own car! :-) Greg On 6/8/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are just parroting blather you heard from someone. Ony overhead to FB is not for nothing. There is a purpose for all of it. No, I had to make some modifications once in a FB application, so I had to learn it. The only thing I can say is that if I had to rewrite the same app my way, (call it my own framework), it would have taken ten times less code, and it would take ten times less time for anyone else to get into it for a modification. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242950 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse tabbing
Ben, If this is a real issue, show stopper etc, head over to cfeclipse.tigris.org, register and add this as an issue in the issue tracker (if it isnt there) We are working our way through the bugs. One thing that I have to say is that saying I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity is a bit of an exaggeration surely? Since we have limited resource would you like me to stop working on current features to fix this? Personally I have maybe lived with this issue for 2 years without really being bothered by it... but if it is road block for you I shall see what I can do. MD On 8 Jun 2006, at 16:13, Ben Nadel wrote: Thanks Rob... Its upsetting that I just took the morning to try and get comfortable with Eclipse (and move away from my girl-on-the-side, Homesite) and already I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity. I have to start backspacing every tab that get's created, I might go insane. -ben ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242951 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
I agree. If the docs say one thing, and it does another either the docs or CF are broken. This is a common problem with software that was made by humans. :) People want everybody to use their software, and thus they don't like to advertise their software's weaknesses. I, for one, am very impressed and will use software that has documented weaknesses, but it's extremely rare. I'm guilty of this too. I'd be pleased as punch if /all/ CF developers used CFQuickDocs, but I know it's got drawbacks (Ex., funky formatting in some result pages). But I don't go around telling everybody about it's problems either. :\ --- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242952 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
I'm curious, does it still work if you have a blog title with a \ in the title? ;-) K -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 June 2006 16:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content BlogCFM does it in what I think is a particularly nasty way. Every time I create a new blog entry, it creates subdirectories for the year and month if they don't already exist, then creates a friendly filename based on the title of the blog entry, and creates the file in the created subdirectory on the server that essentially contains only two lines, one line that sets an ENTRY_ID variable and the other that does a cfinclude. It requires the use of a CF mapping, and has been one of the more obnoxious things to support. URL-rewriting is probably much friendlier. Rick ~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242953 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Just curious - how many people reading this would say that they are confident with FB and that they think it sucks? On 08/06/06, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to build my own car cant help stick my nose in here and say thats a real bad analogy everyday people change bits on fords to make them go faster, theres an industry built around it! Also: There is no app in the world that cant be refined Also: I much prefer to work on something I can google, like FB. I cant google for how does gregs code work (though this far down the line im not sure if you were pro or anti... ) Greg Luce wrote: Ah, you made some modifications to an app once so you learned it. Gotcha. I drove a Ford once and got lost. I guess Ford's suck. I'm going to build my own car! :-) Greg On 6/8/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are just parroting blather you heard from someone. Ony overhead to FB is not for nothing. There is a purpose for all of it. No, I had to make some modifications once in a FB application, so I had to learn it. The only thing I can say is that if I had to rewrite the same app my way, (call it my own framework), it would have taken ten times less code, and it would take ten times less time for anyone else to get into it for a modification. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242954 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse tabbing
I find it saves me having to go to the gym... finger workout anyone ;) But really i do haev to agree with Mark I don't think it's a stop stopper. On 08/06/06, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, If this is a real issue, show stopper etc, head over to cfeclipse.tigris.org, register and add this as an issue in the issue tracker (if it isnt there) We are working our way through the bugs. One thing that I have to say is that saying I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity is a bit of an exaggeration surely? Since we have limited resource would you like me to stop working on current features to fix this? Personally I have maybe lived with this issue for 2 years without really being bothered by it... but if it is road block for you I shall see what I can do. MD On 8 Jun 2006, at 16:13, Ben Nadel wrote: Thanks Rob... Its upsetting that I just took the morning to try and get comfortable with Eclipse (and move away from my girl-on-the-side, Homesite) and already I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity. I have to start backspacing every tab that get's created, I might go insane. -ben ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242955 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: RDS in CFEclipse
According to the docs on the labs site, CFEclipse should talk RDS now, yet despite upgrading to the latest stable, I don't see the new menu options. Anyone else getting this, working or not ? -- Tom Chiverton It took me a short while, but I managed to get it working just fine. After downloading the RDS plugin from the adobe labs site (to download go to http://www.antiwrap.com/?1012), you unzip the contents to the Eclipse plugin directory. Restart Eclipse and RDS support is installed. Steve Erat also has some screenshots of the install process at http://www.antiwrap.com/?1013 hth, larry -- Larry C. Lyons Web Analyst BEI Resources American Type Culture Collection http://www.beiresources.org email: llyons(at)atcc(dot)org tel: 703.365.2700.2678 -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242956 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Fusebox 4 Slow?
The big benefit of using frameworks is the structure it contains. It allows for more efficient coding in a team environment and also heads closer to an object oriented model. It organizes things very well and makes it easier to find what you are looking for in the code. Combined with a good solid naming convention, adding, and modifying code/functionality is a lot easier than just putting all of your code into a single directory. That's my take on it. I personally use a modified version of fusebox...I don't use the actual fusebox tags, but I use the methodology. I am not going to find the tags or the ability to install the tags for fusebox wherever I go, but I can apply the methodology to sites to make them more efficiently organized. I would also say that however you structure your code beyond just dumping everything into a single directory is a methodology and framework in itself. Eric -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 08 June 2006 03:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox 4 Slow? Dave, I think you must have a browser sniffer that checks for any framework string structures in URLs and limits your download speed - lol. So are you telling us that not one site using frameworks is fast?? If so can you give some examples? Model Glue has had some speed issues recently but Joe has spent a lot of time tuning this and MG1.1 is a lot faster and Unity should be better still. Now I am coming in this conversation a little late but one of the great things I find about FWs is the scalability of them. Unless you've spent a lot of time implementing your own code structure/standards (personal framework) then I'm sure you will run into issues with scaling. Frameworks handle this very well as they have been tried and tested. This is just one of the pros. Frameworks aren't the be all and end all but they are a great starting point for any project. Check out what some people say about frameworks here: http://succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/4/28/cfFrameworkscom-survey-results-What- coldfusion-frameworks-are-used(more analysis coming soon). Nick On 07/06/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same connections I view everything else on, not like i use a special one for cf framework sites only ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Nathan Strutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:40 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Fusebox 4 Slow? Dave, Chack your network connections. Switch providers if it helps. Sounds to me like every site you visit is slow. I know, I know, and i'm just kidding, but really, you've never seen a speedy enough CF framework-driven or asp.net site? I've built and visited a number of each, most all quite fast (when on good or local hardware). Therefore, check your connection. Maybe your ISP is sending your signal through 14.4k modems. :D -nathan On 6/6/06, dave wrote: Yeah that can be true and is a good point. I really want to get into model-glue but I still remember something I read on here that was said, someone said that it was slow and the responce was yeah but it's doing so much underneath, but the user doesn't care what's underneath they want it fast. I'm assuming this is more or less the frameworks that use xml or so it seems but then again I really haven't seen a .net app that's fast either. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242957 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse tabbing
Mark, Please, by NO MEANS change what you are doing for my tabbing issues. That would be silly, and make me feel bad. I can certainly post it as an issue on the site. I didn't even know that was an option. I don't know a lot of CF/Eclipse. Ok, maybe I am a bit extreme in my reaction. Agreed. But I think that it is fueled by my frustration that I have tried CFEclipse a bunch of times, and I can just never groove with it. There are a lot of things that I like about it. I think it has better snippets and key short cuts than HS+. I know so many people are moving to in, and I want to keep up with the new stuff... And by not feeling comfortable with it, I get frustrated that I am falling behind. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing Ben, If this is a real issue, show stopper etc, head over to cfeclipse.tigris.org, register and add this as an issue in the issue tracker (if it isnt there) We are working our way through the bugs. One thing that I have to say is that saying I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity is a bit of an exaggeration surely? Since we have limited resource would you like me to stop working on current features to fix this? Personally I have maybe lived with this issue for 2 years without really being bothered by it... but if it is road block for you I shall see what I can do. MD On 8 Jun 2006, at 16:13, Ben Nadel wrote: Thanks Rob... Its upsetting that I just took the morning to try and get comfortable with Eclipse (and move away from my girl-on-the-side, Homesite) and already I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity. I have to start backspacing every tab that get's created, I might go insane. -ben ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242958 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription:
RE: CFEclipse tabbing
Mark, How's the talks with tigris coming for getting your CVS source tree? Even if you can't get it, it might be an option to just checkout the latest revision and import that into subversion. Then set up trac, and you're good to go. I think this thread did a lot of service to CFEclipse by getting it out there and having people talk about it. Now that you've got the momentum, try to get some more developers. I'd be willing to take a stab at it, and I'm also very familiar with setting up subversion and trac, so e-mail me if you have any questions. Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing Ben, If this is a real issue, show stopper etc, head over to cfeclipse.tigris.org, register and add this as an issue in the issue tracker (if it isnt there) We are working our way through the bugs. One thing that I have to say is that saying I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity is a bit of an exaggeration surely? Since we have limited resource would you like me to stop working on current features to fix this? Personally I have maybe lived with this issue for 2 years without really being bothered by it... but if it is road block for you I shall see what I can do. MD On 8 Jun 2006, at 16:13, Ben Nadel wrote: Thanks Rob... Its upsetting that I just took the morning to try and get comfortable with Eclipse (and move away from my girl-on-the-side, Homesite) and already I have hit a road block that is fairly significant in terms of productivity. I have to start backspacing every tab that get's created, I might go insane. -ben ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing As mentioned, I've attached my original post. And it was Spike, not Mark, who kicked in the source code comments. I don't know whether it's possible to reference a thread URL for this mailing list (or if so, how to do it), so I've added the relevant posts inline... My original question: Has anyone found a way to successfully turn off smart indenting in CFEclipse? I have it unchecked in preferences, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. For that matter, I should clarify what I'm doing since I'm not even entirely sure that that's the correct setting. For long tags with numerous attributes, I prefer to place each attribute after the first on its own line: input type=text id=mytext name=mytext value= ... / When I do so in CFEclipse, however, instead of automatically indenting to the level of the line above the new line is indented one level deeper. For each line it's only one extra key press to back it up, but that's a lot of one extra key presses on any given page of code. Is this a bug or am I trying to use it incorrectly? Thanks. == A snippet from one of Spike's responses: -- SNIP -- To complicate matters further, the code that does the smart indenting and auto indenting is mingled with the code that does the auto closing of , auto step-through of ,',# and , and all manner of other things that you might not notice happening. The whole thing really needs to be refactored because at the minute it's very hard to follow and almost impossible to modify without introducing bugs. On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a quick questions. I can't seem to get the tabbing right in Eclipse. I like to format tags like: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / If I try to do this (without backspacing anything), eclipse does this: cfsetting showdebugoutput=false requesttimeout=XX / As you can see the tabbing is CRAZY!! I tried turning off smart indenting, and turning it on as well, neither of them seem to make a difference. Is there another tabbing feature that I am not seeing somewhere? Also, is there a way that I can get CTRL+DELETE to delete all white space in front of it (like in HomeSite). In Eclipse it only seems to delete the next word. I tried removing the command (in the key setup) to delete the next word, but it still only does this behavior. Thanks! ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242959 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe:
Re: CFEclipse tabbing
I don't think you'll find much disagreement that CFEclipse is not the best CFML editor out there. Indentation issues are one example of where if falls behind, and there are certainly others. However, since it's built on Eclipse, it's overall capabilities far extend any other tool available, which makes up for the editor's shortcomings by several orders of magnitude. For example, if you need a CFML editor, Subversion integration, a high powered XML editor, Ant support, and UML modelling, you can buy/download several distinct tools and learn each one, or you can buy/download several Eclipse plugins (CFEclipse being one) and have all the tools you need in a single integrated application. That's the real reason for using CFEclipse, if you ask me, because it lets you effectively use a single tool for all your development tasks, rather than switching around between multiple tools. I'd rather have to hit backspace a few extra times than have to be switching applications all over the place, and not being able to, for example, do SVN diffs for any file anytime I want, directly in my editor. cheers, barneyb On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Please, by NO MEANS change what you are doing for my tabbing issues. That would be silly, and make me feel bad. I can certainly post it as an issue on the site. I didn't even know that was an option. I don't know a lot of CF/Eclipse. Ok, maybe I am a bit extreme in my reaction. Agreed. But I think that it is fueled by my frustration that I have tried CFEclipse a bunch of times, and I can just never groove with it. There are a lot of things that I like about it. I think it has better snippets and key short cuts than HS+. I know so many people are moving to in, and I want to keep up with the new stuff... And by not feeling comfortable with it, I get frustrated that I am falling behind. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242960 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
Ah, you made some modifications to an app once so you learned it. I learned it sufficiently to use it and understand that I don't like it nor I need it. Do you need to drive a Ford all your life to be able to say this car is not for you? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242961 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fusebox 4 Slow?
everyday people change bits on fords to make them go faster, theres an industry built around it! Yeah, and there are even people who drive other cars ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242962 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse tabbing
Barneyb, I agree that it is a very powerful editor in general. Which is why I am actually very interested in moving over to it. I guess my problem is that I am not a super-power user. I don't do all that extra stuff. So perhaps the short comings are on my behalf, not completely on the editors behalf. I should be using better coding techniques; things that will make me more efficient. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing I don't think you'll find much disagreement that CFEclipse is not the best CFML editor out there. Indentation issues are one example of where if falls behind, and there are certainly others. However, since it's built on Eclipse, it's overall capabilities far extend any other tool available, which makes up for the editor's shortcomings by several orders of magnitude. For example, if you need a CFML editor, Subversion integration, a high powered XML editor, Ant support, and UML modelling, you can buy/download several distinct tools and learn each one, or you can buy/download several Eclipse plugins (CFEclipse being one) and have all the tools you need in a single integrated application. That's the real reason for using CFEclipse, if you ask me, because it lets you effectively use a single tool for all your development tasks, rather than switching around between multiple tools. I'd rather have to hit backspace a few extra times than have to be switching applications all over the place, and not being able to, for example, do SVN diffs for any file anytime I want, directly in my editor. cheers, barneyb On 6/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Please, by NO MEANS change what you are doing for my tabbing issues. That would be silly, and make me feel bad. I can certainly post it as an issue on the site. I didn't even know that was an option. I don't know a lot of CF/Eclipse. Ok, maybe I am a bit extreme in my reaction. Agreed. But I think that it is fueled by my frustration that I have tried CFEclipse a bunch of times, and I can just never groove with it. There are a lot of things that I like about it. I think it has better snippets and key short cuts than HS+. I know so many people are moving to in, and I want to keep up with the new stuff... And by not feeling comfortable with it, I get frustrated that I am falling behind. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242963 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: About CFC Path
In my experience, you don't need a mapping that was created in the CFAdmin to invoke a CFC. Something that used to confuse me is that people use the term mapping liberally, and it doesn't always mean the thingies in the CFAdmin. Often they are referring to the path that you use to invoke the CFC, like coldfusion.clients.mycfcs.parseEmail. As long as you do the 'dotted notation mapping' correctly, a shared hosting environment should work fine. -Original Message- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:57 PM Hi. Is there a way I can put all my CFCs in a separate folder, and have them be called by any application files on a Shared Hosting Service? My hosting service provider does not give access to the CF Administrator. So I need to know if I can set my CFC path in my application.cfm file? I am using CF MX 7.0 Please help. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242964 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious, does it still work if you have a blog title with a \ in the title? ;-) It converts such characters to underscores. pfththt ;) Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242965 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: About CFC Path
In this case, wouldn't you need to keep the cfc's under web root? -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: About CFC Path In my experience, you don't need a mapping that was created in the CFAdmin to invoke a CFC. Something that used to confuse me is that people use the term mapping liberally, and it doesn't always mean the thingies in the CFAdmin. Often they are referring to the path that you use to invoke the CFC, like coldfusion.clients.mycfcs.parseEmail. As long as you do the 'dotted notation mapping' correctly, a shared hosting environment should work fine. -Original Message- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:57 PM Hi. Is there a way I can put all my CFCs in a separate folder, and have them be called by any application files on a Shared Hosting Service? My hosting service provider does not give access to the CF Administrator. So I need to know if I can set my CFC path in my application.cfm file? I am using CF MX 7.0 Please help. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242966 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFUNITED-06 interview 23: Michael Dinowitz - Error handling in CF
In this issue of ColdFusion conference and training news: * Registrations packages are arriving to attendees. * Bridging the Gap between Marketing and IT professionals * Current Prices expire 6/16/06 * CFLive - Thursday 12:30pm - Rob Gonda on Ajax * Breeze Talks- Download via Podcast! * Interview with Michael Dinowitz on Error handling in CF SEE ALL RECENT CFUNITED NEWS AND PAST. Get CFUNITED news fast as soon as it is posted! Subscribe to our blog today! RSS feed or email. http://www.cfunited.com/blog/ CFUNITED is the premier ColdFusion Conference near Washington DC 6/28-7/1/06 (Four whole days!) Check out speakers and topics at http://www.cfunited.com/ - Michael Smith TeraTech, Inc CFUNITED is a great way to not only network with fellow ColdFusion afficianados, but also to learn new techniques and methods to help your career or business. You also can get inside scooops on developments in ColdFusion and learn best practices and much more. -Angela T., Conference Alumni Conference and training news * Upcoming TeraTech classes Cost $349 see http://www.teratech.com/training/ for more details and registration CF209 - Upgrade to CFMX 7 Jun 13 2006 FB101 - Intro to FuseboxSep 12 2006 FB201 - Intermediate FuseboxSep 19 2006 CF102 - Intro to ColdFusion Sep 26 2006 CF201 - Intermediate ColdFusion Oct 10 2006 CS201H - CSS hands on TBA * Pre-conference classes Cost $449 see http://www.cfunited.com/classes06.cfm for more details and registration Location: Bethesda North Marriott and Conference Center CFUNITED NEWS! * Registration packages will be arriving to attendees soon. Enclosed will be a receipt, name badge, t-shirt, and conference instructions. We've mailed about half the packages last week until now. Keep your package in a safe place and bring the name badge with you to the event. It will help you check- in faster. If you do not get your package in the mail, you can still check-in at the conference and we can issue you a new badge. * Have you ever noticed that the marketing department and IT department seem to speak different languages? Would you like to receive the tools that can help your business roll out a successful software project from start to finish? Bridging the Gap between Marketing and IT professionals, June 29th http://www.cfunited.com/bridging_gap.cfm * Prices for registration expire 6/16/06, currently 4 day package $849 and 3 day package $749 After that, the late price is $949 for the 4 day package and $849 for the 3 day package See list of all prices http://www.cfunited.com/discounts.cfm * 59% of our Pre-Conference Classes are full. Be sure to reserve your seat today! http://www.cfunited.com/classes06.cfm * 706 people are already registered for CFUNITED-06! Don't miss out on your laptop bag (only the first 750 get one). *CFLive Hear CFUNITED speakers from your office via breeze talks every Thursday 12:30pm - 1pm EST. Learn new tips and ask questions live. See past talks http://www.cfunited.com/breeze_talks.cfm or download via Podcast http://www.cfunited.com/blog/cflivepodcast.xml CFLive! Rob Gonda CLASS Ajax intensive for ColdFusion Developers Thursday, June 8, 12:30 PM US/Eastern http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/events/4919519/ Future talks: 6/15/06 Doug Ward Fundamentals of Good Usability http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/events/4919541/ * Only 3 more weeks until CFUNITED (19 days). * Can't afford to come for 4 days? Or can't take time off work during the week? Come to our Saturday only CFUNITED event. Or watch via web video after the event. * We still have opportunites for sponsorship available to companies. ** And now our CFUNITED spotlight interview. Michael Smith: This time we are talking with Michael Dinowitz about his CFUNITED-06 talk Error handling in CF. So why should a developer come to your session Michael ? Michael Dinowitz: They shouldn't. MS: Huh?!? MD: Lets be honest here. After all these years of ColdFusion, after all these years of CFUnited and CFun before it, people are experienced coders and make no errors. If they come to my presentation, I'm not only going to shatter their confidence in their superior coding skills but also their world view and probably make them paranoid. If they're lucky. MS: Shatter their world view? Make them paranoid? What can ever be that bad? MD: On the first hand, the world and the people in it suck. When someone writes their perfect code, they expect it to work because it is perfect. They don't expect people to come along and be stupid. They don't expect people to come along and be malicious. They don't even expect bots and search engines to be 'evil'. The problem is, all of these things happen and more. The deeper I go into what people can do, how to deal with it and what you can't deal with, the more the attendees will be frazzled. But it gets worse. MS: Worse? Is this what will
Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
Mark...or anyone else more adept at eclipse than I (pretty much everyone hehehe)... Am I missing something or is the only option for ftp is to transfer a folder? I only need to transfer a file ;-) I have been using cfeclipse for the past few days on a project, and that is a major PIA when I have to use a separate ftp program to upload files to the dev server (it's remote...so I don't have network access and they don't have RDS access set up). The only way I can see to do it is to right click on the file, click export and then select ftp. Am I doing something wrong or not going about it the right way? As far as the tabbing issue...at least now I know it was a bad flashback when that happened heheheh...it's not a show stopper, but it does become a PIA at times Eric ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242968 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse tabbing
Apparently he hasn't read the archives of the past couple of weeks ROFL... -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 08 June 2006 11:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse tabbing I don't think you'll find much disagreement that CFEclipse is not the best CFML editor out there. snipped ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242969 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reopening timed out cfftp connection ..
|Rens| 0 wrote: The FTP connection will be cached, so that I don't have to suffer from the overhead of the connection process. I need to generate and FTP almost 20.000 files in one request. The thing is that the remote FTP deamon will disconnect me after 300 seconds (indicated by a '[pid 3812] [netmasters2] FTP response: Client 192.168.5.15, 421 Timeout.'). Will it disconnect the data channel, the command channel or both? 1. Try to upload the file using the existing connection 2. If [1] fails, then close That is based on the presumption that you can close the existing connection. I don't know anything about the implementation details of FTP in CF, but on the TCP layer just closing the connection can already take up to 4 minutes. and (re)open the existing connection If closing fails, you can't reopen it. 3. Try to upload it again In pseudo-code: cfftp action=open / cfif shitHappened cfftp action=close / cfftp action=open / /cfif I have been Google'ing for days now, but I can't figure out how to reopen a connection that has been timed out. If anyone could tell me how to do this, I would be very, very greatful .. Start a brand new connection whenever you are disconnected and use that until you are disconnected again. Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242970 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: User Friendly URLs for dynamic content
I use the 404 method mentioned earlier and it works like a charm. I set IE to not check to see if a page exists, then I set up a 404 handler for CF. Believe it or not I use CFHTTP to pull the dynamic page, and it has proven to be an unnoticeable load on a busy server. There was a thread a few months back where I laid it all out and asked if there was a better way. The cfhttp thing seemed loony but it turned out to be the best, most flexible solution. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, MSB Web Systems http://mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242971 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfopen?
Rick Root wrote: FYI all, cfopen seems to be back online. Rick Any idea as to what the problem was? -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Blue Dragon Alliance Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242972 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfopen?
Interesting that the latest news is from 2004. It's too bad that this site seems to have so many issues. Not from the perspective of it's down regularly, but rather from a concept perspective, anyone have opinions on why this site never caught on? Is it because the CF open source community is too small at the moment? Is it because th efeatures are duplicated better elsewhere on sites that are not CF specific? Is it something else entirely? I am curious about people's opinions on this topic. -- Brian Rinaldi blog - http://www.remotesynthesis.com/blog CF Open Source List - http://www.remotesynthesis.com/cfopensourcelist Boston CFUG - http://www.bostoncfug.org On 6/8/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Root wrote: FYI all, cfopen seems to be back online. Rick Any idea as to what the problem was? -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Blue Dragon Alliance Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242973 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
OT: ampersand in file name
I feel kinda goofy having to ask this... I have a forum that allows attachments and downloading. I use URLEncodedFormat() for the file name, but when a file contains an ampersand, the user just gets a 404 error when trying to dl the file. URLEncodedFormat() escapes the ampersand to %26 so the URL would be test1%261%2Edoc. I've googled around and the consensus is that %26 should work, but it doesn't. Am I just going crazy or is this an IIS problem or should I just bite the bullet and not allow use of the ampersand character in uploaded file names? T ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242974 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfopen?
Brian Rinaldi wrote: regularly, but rather from a concept perspective, anyone have opinions on why this site never caught on? Is it because the CF open source community is too small at the moment? Is it because th efeatures are duplicated better elsewhere on sites that are not CF specific? Is it something else entirely? I am curious about people's opinions on this topic. Personally, I love using CFOPEN for bug tracking and file release and other such things. I think a lot of other open source people in the CF community out there would just as happily upload a zip file to their own web site... I've contemplated building my own application - maybe combining features of CFMBB with Ray's Lighthouse Pro app into a cfopen/sourceforge type web site but the project seems kind of intimidating =) I'd move over to sourceforge but I personally have a strong dislike to their entire interface. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242975 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ampersand in file name
Why not just swap out the character to a _? !k -Original Message- From: Terry L Schmitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 8, 2006 12:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: ampersand in file name I feel kinda goofy having to ask this... I have a forum that allows attachments and downloading. I use URLEncodedFormat() for the file name, but when a file contains an ampersand, the user just gets a 404 error when trying to dl the file. URLEncodedFormat() escapes the ampersand to %26 so the URL would be test1%261%2Edoc. I've googled around and the consensus is that %26 should work, but it doesn't. Am I just going crazy or is this an IIS problem or should I just bite the bullet and not allow use of the ampersand character in uploaded file names? T ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242976 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: About CFC Path
That's the way I do it, yes. I'm not sure if it's required though. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:10 AM In this case, wouldn't you need to keep the cfc's under web root? -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:23 AM In my experience, you don't need a mapping that was created in the CFAdmin to invoke a CFC. Something that used to confuse me is that people use the term mapping liberally, and it doesn't always mean the thingies in the CFAdmin. Often they are referring to the path that you use to invoke the CFC, like coldfusion.clients.mycfcs.parseEmail. As long as you do the 'dotted notation mapping' correctly, a shared hosting environment should work fine. -Original Message- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:57 PM Hi. Is there a way I can put all my CFCs in a separate folder, and have them be called by any application files on a Shared Hosting Service? My hosting service provider does not give access to the CF Administrator. So I need to know if I can set my CFC path in my application.cfm file? I am using CF MX 7.0 Please help. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242977 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: About CFC Path
I think that if you don't have mappings in cf admin, it will have to be under the web root, which might be a security risk since now people can call your cfc's directly from the browser. We keep all our code above the web root, the only thing inside the web root is the main.cfm tempate and application.cfm. Russ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: About CFC Path That's the way I do it, yes. I'm not sure if it's required though. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:10 AM In this case, wouldn't you need to keep the cfc's under web root? -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:23 AM In my experience, you don't need a mapping that was created in the CFAdmin to invoke a CFC. Something that used to confuse me is that people use the term mapping liberally, and it doesn't always mean the thingies in the CFAdmin. Often they are referring to the path that you use to invoke the CFC, like coldfusion.clients.mycfcs.parseEmail. As long as you do the 'dotted notation mapping' correctly, a shared hosting environment should work fine. -Original Message- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:57 PM Hi. Is there a way I can put all my CFCs in a separate folder, and have them be called by any application files on a Shared Hosting Service? My hosting service provider does not give access to the CF Administrator. So I need to know if I can set my CFC path in my application.cfm file? I am using CF MX 7.0 Please help. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242978 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54