RE: (cross post) SQL row numbering

2003-02-03 Thread Justin Greene
Select into a temp table that has an idenity column and then select the
result from that.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:54 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: (cross post) SQL row numbering
 
 
 How can I get SQL server to automatically number my rows of a 
 recordset,
 as I retrieve it?
 
 If I have the following information in a table (example data)
 
 NameAge
 Joe   20
 Sally 14
 Jim   15
 
 And I do a query:
 
 Select somefunction() as rownum, name, age from table
 
 I want a recordset of 
 RownumNameAge
 1 Joe 20
 2 Sally   14
 3 Jim 15
 
 Since this is going to be a small part of a larger stored procedure, I
 can't use CF.
  
 
 Thanks
 
 Matthew Small
 IT Supervisor
 Showstopper National Dance Competitions
 3660 Old Kings Hwy 
 Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
 843-357-1847
 http://www.showstopperonline.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:42 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
 
 I would agree that it is an over-generalized statement, however, the
 technical support DOES have its issues.
 
 I've had a problem with JVM Memory Settings in CFMX Pro but 
 in order to
 speak to someone in your tech support dept. I have to pay at 
 least $250.
 It seems that when you pay over $1000 for software that you should get
 at least SOME technical support - even for a limited time. I bought an
 iBook and got 90 days unlimited support. My iBook cost about 
 the same as
 CFMX Pro.
 
 It would be nice to get some temporary support for our money. 
 After all,
 isn't that one of the arguments about why people choose 
 retail products
 over open-source? Technical Support. You're supposed to get 
 more if you
 pay right? I can write PHP and pay someone to give me support on that,
 but since I paid $1000 for CFMX I expected some free support - or at
 least someone courteous on the phone.
 
 I'm not leaning towards MM bashing mind you - I love CFMX and MM
 products in general, but seriously, do something about your support
 options.
 
 Even email or chat-based support to determine if higher-level paid
 support is in order. Sort of a Tech Support Triage or something.
 
 That's just my opinion ...
 
 Joshua Miller
 Head Programmer / IT Manager
 Garrison Enterprises Inc.
 www.garrisonenterprises.net
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:28 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  advantage.  And of course everyone knows that their tech
  support sucks big time.
 
 That is quite a generalization, and one i personally feel is 
 incorrect.
 While some people may have had poor experiences with tech 
 support (such
 as yourself), to state that everyone feels the way you do is, in my
 opinion a rather large leap.
 
 mike chambers
 
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RE: SQL Worm

2003-01-27 Thread Justin Greene
 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SQL Worm
 
 Paris Lundis wrote:
  A good summary Jochem would be for folks to tune the firewall and 
  ensure permissions/allowable IP list...
 
 Since when can you even buy a 10 Gbps firewall?
 
  In your environment you point out the user base... 8000... 
 agreeable... 
  large base for things...
  
  Tune the firewall and restrict traffic there ... allowing 
 like port 80 
  in and out disbaling all other services and ports, except 
 those in a 
  defined list of authrozied servers...
 
 All 8000 systems are authorized servers. About 65525 of 65536 
 ports are 
 authorized ports. You can't firewall a production network where the 
 product is (supposed to be) innovation.

Yes you can, and you have to.  The problem is that it is a pain in the ass
to maintain your rule sets as they change frequently, but that is the cost
of security.  Pessimistic security is a pain to maintain, which is why so
many people choose not to.

Every network should be firewalled and you should have specific ingress and
egress rules for each  host based on the needs of that host.  If a host does
not need outbound http, block it, then it cannot be the source of a DDOS
even if it gets compromised.  I have a very hard time believing that
innovation means that every port on every box has to be open to the public.
If the servers need to be accessible to users, they should be tunneling into
the LAN to get behind the firewall.

 I think we have had this discussion last week already, but 
 firewalls are 
 not the answer to all problems. Sure, properly secured firewalls on 
 machines running MS SQL Server would have prevented this issue (at 
 least, nobody has convinced me that UDP should be allowed to a 
 production server at all). But there are allways other 

DNS uses UDP.  If you run DNS internally, you need to allow UDP port 53.
PCAnywhere also uses UDP.


 scenario's where 
 a firewall would not help. In the end, vigilance on all the 
 aspects of 
 security is the only way to make sure problems like this worm don't 
 cause a total meltdown of the internet.
 
 Jochem
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RE: telnet server w2k - is it safe to use ?

2003-01-26 Thread Justin Greene
I believe that openSSH requires that you install their CYGWIN.dll and it is
not the most current version, which they say can cause conflicts if you have
the Current version installed (which is highly recommended if you do command
line stuff).  VanDyke SSH server and client are great and highly
recommended.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 7:07 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: telnet server w2k - is it safe to use ?
  I wonder if anyone has experience with using the telnet 
  server that ships with windows 2000 ? Has anyone got a 
  things to consider before using list ?
 
 Yes, you might want to consider if you want to allow 
 unencrypted Windows
 logins across the network, since telnet is unencrypted. I 
 think that the MS
 telnet server supports NTLM authentication, but that only 
 works with MS
 telnet clients, I suppose. 
 
 If you really need telnet-like functionality, but don't want 
 the security
 issues of telnet, you might consider getting an ssh server. 
 VanDyke Software
 has a very nice one called VShell, and I think you can use OpenSSH on
 Windows also. If it has to be telnet, you might look at using 
 something that
 doesn't integrate with Windows logins, but has its own logins 
 instead. I've
 never deployed a telnet server on Windows, though, so there 
 may be other
 considerations as well.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444
 
 
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RE: Cold Fusion and Telnet

2003-01-23 Thread Justin Greene
We use a com object called cfx_tcpclient to speak to our mail servers CLI
via telnet.  Works great.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cold Fusion and Telnet
 

 Here's an interesting one and conceivable not possible, but I 
 thought I
 would ask all the wise ones here on the CF-Talk list before I 
 tell my client
 NO!.  Has anybody ever done anything connecting Cold Fusion 
 and Telnet?
 Basically the client wants to create a web-based telnet 
 session to a back
 end application on a HP L3000 Unix server so that every 
 computer in the
 organization doesn't have to have the customized telnet 
 client installed and
 maintained/upgraded on them.
 
 Is this even possible?  If not, any other suggestions on how 
 such a system
 may be created?  Anybody know of any tools/custom 
 tags/CFX/applications or
 something else that may do this already?
 
 Thanks
 
 Ian Skinner
 Web Developer
 BloodSource
 Sacramento CA
 
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RE: SQL7 DB Update Procedure

2003-01-13 Thread Justin Greene
Make your datasource a variable defined in the application.cfm.  Switch the
datasource between databases as needed by changing the application.cfm.  It
will not matter if the databases are on the same machine or not as they can
have different names and you can change what CF is looking at very easily.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: paul smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:16 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL7 DB Update Procedure
 
 The on-line database of listings, etc, at 
 www.SMARTERYellowpages.com , 
 Biz1, is read-only in normal operation.
 
 The off-line database, Biz2, is not read-only in normal 
 operation, and it 
 is currently updated daily on a backup machine, including 
 automatic backup, 
 and updating of full-text indexes (SQL7). It's backup is used 
 to update 
 Biz1.  Since the 2 databases are on different machines, they 
 can and do 
 have the same name.  Updating of Biz1 is a simple restore 
 using the most 
 recent Biz2 backup, followed by updating the full-text index.
 
 Is there a way to have Biz1  Biz2 on the same machine, and:
 
 To update Biz1, switch Biz2 to read-only.
 Switch www.SMARTERyellwpages.com to read from Biz2 instead of Biz1
 Update Biz1 using the latest backup of Biz2.  I haven't tried 
 this but I 
 wonder how to work around the difference DB names - or even 
 if the name 
 difference matters.
 
 best,  paul
 
 
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RE: web beacons

2003-01-13 Thread Justin Greene
The more sophisticated web bugs do not use a parameter, but instead actually
use the filename itself to identify the individual and each email has a
different image being requested.  Quite effective in HTML email and on web
pages.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:24 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: web beacons

 Yep.. One of the ways that spammers, these days, collect info 
 on valid email
 addresses when using HTML email campaigns.  You simply view 
 the email, and
 BAM.. they know your email address is good.
 
 Old news
 
 
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 | Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:04 AM
 | To: CF-Talk
 | Subject: RE: web beacons
 | 
 | 
 | Oh yeah, and you can pass url parameters to that image as 
 | well... So let's say you send an email to employeeid 145.
 | 
 | You can add a parameter the the src of the gif file in the 
 | html email you send him as such:
 | 
 | img src=http://www.myserver.com/image.cfm?id=145;
 | 
 | Then in the source... Of image.cfm, something like this 
 | appears: cfcontent file=foo.gif 
 | type=application/whatever cfquery datasource=#application.ds#
 | insert into someTable (employeeid, date)
 | values (#val(url.id)#, getdate())
 | /cfquery
 | 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: Costas Piliotis 
 | Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:00 AM
 | To: CF-Talk
 | Subject: RE: web beacons
 | 
 | 
 | Easy.
 | 
 | cfcontent file=foo.gif type=application/whatever
 | cfquery datasource=#application.ds#
 | ...tracking query here...
 | /cfquery
 | 
 | You include the image, and some server-side code to process 
 | it.  Done it a few times...
 | 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: sebastian palmigiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 | Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:52 AM
 | To: CF-Talk
 | Subject: web beacons
 | 
 | 
 | Yahoo is using something called web beacons. Can anyone 
 | simply explain how a single pixel gif is used as a web beacon.
 | 
 http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
 
 
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RE: ADMINISTRATOR Michael help (verification)

2003-01-07 Thread Justin Greene
The service can be told to whitelist the maillist.  The idea itself is not
so new... has been around since 95ish.  It is only recently going mainstream
though as enough people are fed up with unsolicited email to require that
you be on a whitelist to email them.

Return receipts can be dealt with by the list server (I would be surprised
if it doesn't already).

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Samuel R. Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ADMINISTRATOR Michael help (verification)
 
 At 12:51 PM 1/6/2003, you wrote:
 I'll check your account out. As for the spamarrest thing, 
 it's a new scheme to
 avoid spam by opting in anyone that you want to accept email 
 from. I hate 
 it and
 hope it dies fast.
 
 Received that spam arrest thing too.  If everyone signed up, 
 then each 
 poster would receive thousands of spam arrest responses.  
 Would be nice if 
 you can kick off anyone that uses spam arrest on the account 
 they sign up 
 to the mailing list.
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RE: OT: AOL?

2002-12-18 Thread Justin Greene
AOL has their own internal RBL and uses their own rules.  If you are sending
alot of email across their network you should speak with them about being
whitelisted.  They may be enforcing rDNS, some anti-spam efforts do this.
They probably have other criteria as well.  Most of the AOL delivery
problems that we have had in the past were just related to a few really slow
relays that held the mail for a few hours before spitting it back out.

Oh, if they are rejecting based on a non-matching rDNS, they should be doing
it at the connection and not even accepting the mail.  I would be very
surprised to hear that it was really being sent to /dev/null.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: AOL?
 
 Ah, excuse me, the validate sender is a separate selection 
 on the mail server.
 Sorry
 
 =
 Douglas White
 group Manager
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.samcfug.org
 =
 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:24 PM
 Subject: Re: OT: AOL?
 
 
 | I am not trying to start a flame war here, I just want to make sure
 | noone gets the wrong impression and confirm or disprove 
 what I thought
 | SMTP-AUTH was. As far as I can tell from RFC 2554 SMTP-AUTH
 | really has nothing to do with checking reverse DNS, it is just an
 | authentication method.
 |
 | on Wed Dec 18 samcfug spoke forth with the blessed manuscript
 |  I see your point, however, in my own case as a email 
 hosting provider, I
 have
 |  the settings set to enable SMTP AUTH, which is what you 
 mean by doing the
 |  reverse lookup.  I also make it a point to create the 
 in-addr-arpa record
 in
 |  DNS that takes care of it.   That is just another task in 
 hosting email
 domains.
 |  In fact I use a script that takes care of all this when 
 adding a new domain.
 |  If you were an ISP or hosting provider, you would be 
 aware of the constant
 |  attacks by others trying to spoof one of your hosted 
 addresses, including
 virus
 |  attacks such as the Klez Virus, which are all turned away 
 at the server.
 |  That is my story, and I am sticking to it! :-)
 |
 |  =
 |  Douglas White
 |  group Manager
 |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  http://www.samcfug.org
 |  =
 |  - Original Message -
 |  From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:12 PM
 |  Subject: RE: OT: AOL?
 |
 |
 |  | Ya know.. Don't let them hit you with that.
 |  |
 |  | The problem is, new sysadmins tend to think that making 
 changes is part
 |  | of their job.  We had a MAJOR battle with HUD since one 
 of our customers
 |  | submits information to them via email regularly.  
 Suddenly, they could
 |  | not contact HUD, due to a policy change by a new admin 
 who decided that
 |  | if the email server didn't reverse to the same domain 
 name, it was
 |  | most-likely SPAM.  The problem is (as you are most 
 likely aware) that
 |  | with 1000's of domain names on a single mail server, 
 how could you
 |  | POSSIBLY reverse to them?  Even if you added all the 
 reverse names to
 |  | your DNS server manually, it would never answer with 
 the right one
 |  | first.. So it's not logical.
 |  |
 |  | We have to force them to understand that THEY are not 
 the ONLY ISP on
 |  | the planet... and that making willy-nilly admin 
 decisions effects
 |  | millions.  If we fight back, they will change the policy.
 |  |
 |  | Just my .02...
 |  |
 |  |
 |  |
 |  | | -Original Message-
 |  | | From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |  | | Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:05 AM
 |  | | To: CF-Talk
 |  | | Subject: RE: OT: AOL?
 |  | |
 |  | |
 |  | | Aol says my reverse DNS is not up But everything on my
 |  | | server appears to be working fine I guess its my fault
 |  | | after all lol
 |  | |
 |  | | -Original Message-
 |  | | From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |  | | Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:44 PM
 |  | | To: CF-Talk
 |  | | Subject: RE: OT: AOL?
 |  | |
 |  | |
 |  | | On 12/18/02, Kris Pilles penned:
 |  | | No good This sucks... MY clients are starting to 
 notice this
 |  | | too.  Weird thing is the mail just disappears... No
 |  | | bounce back or
 |  | | anything like that...
 |  | |
 |  | | I occasionally have similar problems. I ALWAYS use them as an
 |  | | opportunity to point out to my client that they are 
 LIKELY losing
 |  | | other e-mails, some which may be important. I point 
 out to them (as
 |  | | Howie did to you) that they don't generally bounce 
 the e-mails, so
 |  | | the sender has no way of knowing what the problem is 
 so they may
 |  | | rectify it, or even if there is a problem on his/her 
 end 

RE: cf 4.5, 5 apache ?'s

2002-12-16 Thread Justin Greene
1.3.6 is older than 1.3.27.  6  27. Confusing but rational at the same
time.  I am running 4.5 on 1.3.27 and it works fine except for the DEAPI
warnings because there is no DEAPI build of the cold fusion module for 4.5.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: cf 4.5, 5 apache ?'s
 
 Dave,
 
   I think must be 1.3.6 is a typo as 1.3.27 is the latest
   [1.3] version of apache.
 
  No, I don't think it's a typo, it's just an older version 
 of Apache. CF
 4.5
  worked with 1.3.6 and higher, and I presume it would work 
 with 1.3.27.
 
 
 I'm amazed you managed to translate that string of rubbish 
 into english!
 
 I must confess I didn't look into past version number of 
 apache too closely,
 but logically you would assume that 1.3.6 would be a newer 
 version than
 1.3.27, but as you say 1.3.6 must be an older version and 
 therefore cf4.5
 should work fine with 1.3.27.  This is what I was trying to 
 say, but just
 burbled instead.
 
 Thanks for sorting me out...
 
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RE: OT: onUnload() Issue within a CF Application.

2002-11-22 Thread Justin Greene
We lots of problems with onUnload() and found that it could not be
effectively used to log a user out.  I believe that in Netscape, the windows
was closing before the onUnload() event actually finished executing.  After
a while we gave up and went back to to just timing out sessions.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:14 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: onUnload() Issue within a CF Application.
 

  Oliver Cookson wrote:
 
  What I'm planning to do is popUp a window onUnload() which 
 log's the
  user out, easy you say, well how do I STOP the window 
 popping up when
  they user the back\forward buttons or press refresh?
 
  onClose()
 
  Jochem
 
 Except that this doesn't satisfy the condition of moving the 
 browser out of
 the application by typing a url into the address field, thus 
 leaving the
 user stranded and unable to log back in if they for instance, type
 www.google.com into the address field, browse to another 
 page, then close
 the browser.
 
 I know of a way to prevent any users not using Internet Explorer from
 logging in to an application ( including preventing users of current
 versions of Opera ). This may or many not be a solution for 
 you, however, if
 you can control the browser environment, then you can do some 
 things that
 you might not otherwise consider for compatibility reasons. I 
 have an app
 currently using a hidden iframe to submit the login command on the
 onbeforeunload() event which has proven to be more effective 
 than onunload()
 or a popup window ( which are often killed before they open 
 ). What I found
 using onunload() was that I could only get the url to fire in 
 a killable
 popup -- it wouldn't load in the iframe. But onbeforeunload() 
 gave me the
 functionality I needed.
 
 As to the back, forward and refresh I don't really have a 
 solution -- the
 application I just mentioned has a console in the topmost window which
 mostly doesn't move or reload (it reloads in a couple special case
 conditions, but it's able to do this without logging out), 
 with all of the
 tools loading into iframes. The issue of back and forward is addressed
 primarily by simply providing links in such a fashion that the user
 hopefully never has a need for a back button. If a user hits f5 or the
 reload button ( instead of right-clicking an iframe and 
 reloading the frame
 ), they're logged out and they have to log in again.
 
 .. dunno how much help any of this is. :)
 
 s. isaac dealey954-776-0046
 
 new epoch  http://www.turnkey.to
 
 lead architect, tapestry cms   http://products.turnkey.to
 
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RE: Importing a text file into SQL Server table

2002-11-20 Thread Justin Greene
If the file is large, you can use cfexec to BCP the file into a table then
run a stored procedure to process the table and put the data where it really
needs to be.  If the file is small, just loop through it and do a series of
inserts then call a stored procedure to process the table.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Importing a text file into SQL Server table

 Hello list. I have a text file that is comma and double-quote 
 separated, with a line break that separates the lines. The 
 first row contains the header information. What I am wanting 
 to do is to import this into a SQL Server 2K table. I know 
 that I can use DTS to do this, but I need to do this in 
 ColdFusion code instead as a scheduled task. I have always in 
 the past just used DTS Wizard to do this, not straight SQL. 
 So, my question is, how do you import a text file into SQL 
 Server? What would my query look like? I already have the 
 cffile code in place looking at the text file.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bruce
 
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RE: : FTP notification...without CF...etc.

2002-11-15 Thread Justin Greene
We use sitescope (http://www.sitescope.com) to monitor the number of files
in number of different directories and alert us there is a change.
Actually, we use it to monitor the whole production environment to make sure
everything is running smoothly...

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:chevy;asitv.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT:: FTP notification...without CF...etc.
 
 I currently use War FTPD for FTP transfers.
 
 Do any of you gurus out there know how to automatically
 alert someone when a file has successfully been uploaded?
 
 I am looking for a War FTPD/Win 2K solution.
 
 Thanks...
 
 Ché Vilnonis
 Application Developer
 Advertising Systems Incorporated
 8470C Remington Avenue
 Pennsauken, NJ 08110
 p: 856.488.2211
 f: 856.488.1990
 www.asitv.com
 
 
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RE: (Admin) New spam code

2002-11-11 Thread Justin Greene
Michael,
What does running a properly set up mail server mean?

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mdinowit;houseoffusion.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: (Admin) New spam code


 Just a heads up:
 In an attempt to crack down on spam even more, I put some new 
 code into effect
 yesterday which checks if your running a properly set up mail 
 server. Most
 spammers don't have their mail server set up right or try to 
 hide it. The code
 has been rather effective with 3 noted exceptions. These are 
 legitimate people
 who's mail servers are not set up properly.
 If anyone gets a message about their posts being rejected due 
 to this, you can
 email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this becomes more 
 of a hassle than
 not, I'll remove it.
 
 Michael Dinowitz
 Master of the House of Fusion
 http://www.houseoffusion.com
 ICQ: 2995061
 
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RE: (Admin) New spam code

2002-11-11 Thread Justin Greene
Thanks Matt, I actually know a fair bit about it, I just get nervous when
people speak about rejecting 'improperly configured' servers.  Are we
talking about open relays, lack of rDNS, not rfc compliant?  I am just
curious what Michael's definition is.

Justin

p.s. Nice tools.

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Robertson [mailto:matt;mysecretbase.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: (Admin) New spam code
 
 Justin,
 
 You can find out all sorts of stuff about how well (or 
 poorly) your mail server dns etc. is set up at 
 http://dnsstuff.com.  One of the handiest tools there is 
 http://www.dnsreport.com.
 
 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=spamex.com
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 from: Justin Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:07:17 -0500
 
 Michael,
 What does running a properly set up mail server mean?
 
 Justin
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:mdinowit;houseoffusion.com]
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:01 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: (Admin) New spam code
 
 
  Just a heads up:
  In an attempt to crack down on spam even more, I put some new 
  code into effect
  yesterday which checks if your running a properly set up mail 
  server. Most
  spammers don't have their mail server set up right or try to 
  hide it. The code
  has been rather effective with 3 noted exceptions. These are 
  legitimate people
  who's mail servers are not set up properly.
  If anyone gets a message about their posts being rejected due 
  to this, you can
  email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this becomes more 
  of a hassle than
  not, I'll remove it.
  
  Michael Dinowitz
  Master of the House of Fusion
  http://www.houseoffusion.com
  ICQ: 2995061
  
 
 
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RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Justin Greene
This is a particularly sore spot for me as I started the same thread a while
back when MM refused to create a -EAPI build of the 1.3.x apache dll for CF
4.5.  They tried to claim that DEAPI was post 4.5 and therefore I was asking
for legacy support, then when I showed them that DEAPI actually existed
prior to the release of 4.5 they ultimately said they would do it, then
never came through.

Because of that I will no longer support the new versions of Cold Fusion as
a developer.  I am still running 4.5 for most of my products, which is
stable and fast enough, and will be porting to something else, either Java
or PHP when a new developmetn is required.

MM lost a long time Cold Fusion develment house over this (we have been
developing in CF since version 1.5), which is stupid as it is a simple
recompile.  Clearly this is about forcing upgrades down our throats and not
about providing good support for the customer base, which ultimatly makes us
buy the upgrades willingly.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
 
 While I agree with you that Macromedia should support Apache 
 2.0 for CF
 5, I disagree with your post. You seem to imply that a normal IT shop
 wouldn't want to upgrade to CFMX until after it matures for a 
 couple of
 years, yet you want to upgrade to Apache 2.0, which is certainly
 immature in comparison to Apache 1.3.
 
 
 Matt Liotta
 President  CEO
 Montara Software, Inc.
 http://www.montarasoftware.com/
 888-408-0900 x901
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb;outofchaos.com]
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:39 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
  
  The MM Partners office informs me that
  MM has no plans to supply a mod_coldfusion.so
  for CF 5.0/Linux/Apache 2.0
  
  'Not enough demand' they say.
  
  So know we know MM's policy on one-release-
  back support. They don't do what's right: they
  do what will not get them punished by losing
  too many customers.
  
  If you haven't picked the platform that's going to be most
  popular, you're out of luck, and even if you have, maybe
  you're out of luck anyway, and if you're not prepared to
  keep churning through releases (rather than maintaining
  existing release levels for several years, as is normal I/T
  practice) you're out of luck.
  
  As such, MM has decided that Cold Fusion is the
  wrong choice for mission-critical business applications,
  because it will not have the kind of support that the
  I/T industry expects.
  
  Greg
  
  
 
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RE: Locking and clustered servers

2002-10-29 Thread Justin Greene
In SQL7 and SQL2000 you can use IDENTITY safely assuming you have no
triggers that are causing cascading inserts.  If you have triggers causing
inserts, then you need to use the select max() method as shown in original
message for SQL 7:

DECLARE nextid
SET TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE;
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
INSERT INTO table ... ;
SELECT nextid = IDENTITY
COMMIT TRANSACTION;

Justin




 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info;turnkey.to]
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:30 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Locking and clustered servers
 
SNIP
 
 Depends heavily on the db server in question...
 
 SQL Server 7 Stored Procedure
 
   DECLARE nextid
 
   SET TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE;
 
   BEGIN TRANSACTION;
 
   INSERT INTO table ... ;
 
   SET nextid = (SELECT TOP 1 identity FROM table ORDER 
 BY identity DESC)
 
   COMMIT TRANSACTION;
 
 SQL Server 2000 Stored Procedure
 
   DECLARE nextid;
 
   INSERT INTO table ...;
 
   SET nextid = SCOPE_IDENTITY();
 
 I'm not familiar enough with Oracle yet to know the specific syntax.
 
 If you're absolutely certain that you won't have any triggers 
 which insert
 data into other tables with identity columns in your db on 
 SQL Server 7, you
 can use IDENTITY
 
 DECLARE nextid;
 
 INSERT INTO table ...;
 
 SET nextid = IDENTITY
 
 If you have a trigger on that table that inserts data into 
 another table
 with another identity column, however, IDENTITY will return 
 the identity
 value from the trigger, not the stored procedure.
 
 S. Isaac Dealey
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
 
 www.turnkey.to
 954-776-0046
 
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RE: 3 Tier Security

2002-09-18 Thread Justin Greene

I think that the 3 Tier issue is really one of performance, not security.,
If you can compromise the 1st tier, you can compromise the second, and then
the third.  Anywhere there is a hole in the firewall there is an opportunity
to break in.  Tiers just add layers and make it more complicated.  However,
on the performance side application servers can help with the load.  It is
easy to conceive of an application where for example, I would want 2 web
servers (tier 1), 5 application servers and 1 database server.  This lets me
scale my app servers separately from my web servers which can make a
difference in licensing cost.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:30 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: 3 Tier Security
 
 I am hoping someone can help me out with this.  Maybe I just 
 can't see how it would work..but anyways we have apps 
 that are going to be accessible outside our firewall.  We 
 currently have a set-up like this.
 
 Webserver is in dmz with the  ports http/https accessible to 
 the outside world.  CF code is kept on this server.  Database 
 is completely inside the firewall.  The firewall is 
 configured to only allow communitcation from the webserver IP 
 to the SQL IP over a sql port.  There are voices around here 
 that want to see a 3rd layer or an app server inbetween.  I 
 can't visualize how this would work?  I think I may just need 
 someone to help me visualize it.  Anyways taking into 
 consideration that the webserver software is all patched up 
 and tighened down, the code has been analized to ensure that 
 there are no holes will adding the extra layer really do any good?
 
 Thanks
 
 Mike
 
 
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RE: clustering q's

2002-09-18 Thread Justin Greene

Are we really speaking about clustering here or load balancing.  I find that
web server require load balancing whereas database servers need clustering.
It is a picky semantic, but if your web servers were truely 'clustered' then
they would act as one and you would not have content replication issues,
session variable issues, etc.  They are in fact load balanced, multiple
machines with the same content sharing the workload.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:38 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: clustering q's
 

 Hey all. 
 
 My company is currently on CF 4.5 Professional...upgrading to 
 5.0 this 
 weekend (yes, we *are* the bleeding edge) :) 
 
 Our system admins have recently decided that they want to 
 cluster our win2K 
 web servers.  I've never been in a clustered environment 
 (i've been in 
 environments that have been a cluster, but that's a differnet 
 story)...so I've got a few questions. 
 
 We *MUST* be using CF Enterprise if we are on clustered 
 servers?  What 
 happens if we are on Professional and one server dies?  
 Session vars will be 
 lost?  Users who are in the middle of a web based 'app' would 
 have to start 
 over?  Is that the only problem (not that it's a small 
 problem...but i'm 
 trying to find out all of the angles so I can make a report 
 to da boss)? 
 
 Also, *if* it is feasible to use CF Pro in a clustered 
 environment, would we 
 be responsible for having licenses for each server (this, of 
 course, would 
 be a moot point if clustered servers MUST be on CF Enterprise). 
 
 I'd call MM on this and ask...but I have a feeling that would be like 
 walking into a car dealership and saying, i have this much money to 
 spend...can you help me?  :) 
 
 thanks in advance,
 charlie
 
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RE: Post.Office

2002-08-19 Thread Justin Greene

I still run it as an internal relay and find that it is a very solid MTA but
it's lack of any form of smtp AUTH makes it useless in the real world.  Take
a look at CommunigatePro by Stalker (http://www.stalker.com) .  Very nice
package.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:30 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Post.Office
 
 P.O has some major problems in a number of areas. The fact 
 that it has not been upgraded in ages and is now 
 'abaondonware' is a good reason to dump it asap. 
 As for the prolog and epilog text, it worked for me so there 
 may be some settings that you have different. If you want, 
 contact me off list and we'll talk. I may need to get access 
 to the list setup to look it over.
 
 
  If I'm not mistaken, this list use to run on Post.Office.  
 It's not anymore,
  and there is a reason.  Run forest run!
  
  -Cameron
  
  -
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   -Original Message-
   From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:22 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Post.Office
  
  
   Does anyone here use Post.Office for a listserv?
  
   I have setup a list but and everything is working but the 
 Prologue and
   Epilogue text doesn't show up.
  
   Rick
  
  
   
  
 
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RE: Post.Office

2002-08-19 Thread Justin Greene

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:30 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Post.Office
 
 
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 P.O has some major problems in a number of areas. The fact 
 that it has not been upgraded in ages and is now 
 'abaondonware' is a good reason to dump it asap. 
 As for the prolog and epilog text, it worked for me so there 
 may be some settings that you have different. If you want, 
 contact me off list and we'll talk. I may need to get access 
 to the list setup to look it over.
 
 
  If I'm not mistaken, this list use to run on Post.Office.  
 It's not anymore,
  and there is a reason.  Run forest run!
  
  -Cameron
  
  -
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   -Original Message-
   From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:22 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Post.Office
  
  
   Does anyone here use Post.Office for a listserv?
  
   I have setup a list but and everything is working but the 
 Prologue and
   Epilogue text doesn't show up.
  
   Rick
  
  
   
  
 
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CF 4.5, verity and memory usage

2002-08-15 Thread Justin Greene

I have a CF4.5 installation that is running Verity against about 20GB of
data.  CF is using huge amounts of memory (570MB) that it frees if I cycle
the service.  Is it caching the collections or something along those lines
and does running large collections require large amounts of memory?  Any
insight would be appreciated.  Not very up on the impact of verity on
performance.

Justin

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RE: SQL query driving me nuts

2002-08-02 Thread Justin Greene

Ah, I see the issue.  You just need to eliminate the other users before
joining.  Something like (syntax may be off a little as I do not have SQL on
this machine to test it)...

Justin

SELECT  I.ItemID, I.Name, I.LastModified,
V.UserID, V.LastViewedDate
FROM(Select ItemID, Name, LastModified from items where userid =
1) I LEFT OUTER JOIN Viewed V
ON I.ItemID = V.ItemID
WHERE   V.LastViewedDate  I.LastModified
or V.UserID is null
ORDER   BY I.ItemID


 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:23 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL query driving me nuts

 What about something like this.  (note the placement of the 
 () with the
 AND/OR)...
 
 Justin
 
 SELECTItems.ItemID, Items.Name, Items.LastModified,
   Viewed.UserID, Viewed.LastViewedDate
 FROM  Items LEFT OUTER JOIN Viewed 
   ON Items.ItemID = Viewed.ItemID
 WHERE (Viewed.UserID = 1  
   and Viewed.LastViewedDate  Items.LastModified)
   or Viewed.UserID is null
 ORDER BY Items.ItemID
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steven Duff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:00 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL query driving me nuts
  
  SNIP
 
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RE: SQL query driving me nuts

2002-08-01 Thread Justin Greene

What about something like this.  (note the placement of the () with the
AND/OR)...

Justin

SELECT  Items.ItemID, Items.Name, Items.LastModified,
Viewed.UserID, Viewed.LastViewedDate
FROMItems LEFT OUTER JOIN Viewed 
ON Items.ItemID = Viewed.ItemID
WHERE   (Viewed.UserID = 1  
and Viewed.LastViewedDate  Items.LastModified)
or Viewed.UserID is null
ORDER   BY Items.ItemID



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 From: Steven Duff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL query driving me nuts
 
 SNIP
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RE: CF and SQL

2002-07-31 Thread Justin Greene

If you DB supports it, use 

if exists [query]

the presence of the exists directive will cause the query to stop processing
as soon as it has a match.  This can save time if you are querying an
unindexed table or there are multiple results.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:23 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF and SQL
 
 Ok,
 
 I am interested in peoples opinions on the following:
 
 Is it best practice to check for a records existence before 
 attempting to update it?
 And what would the best way to go about that be?
 
 Michael Tangorre
 
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RE: SQL Question: Selecting and grouping by date

2002-07-30 Thread Justin Greene

We usually use

convert(varchar(10),date,102)

which returns .mm.dd which is best for sorting the query IMHO.  Also
very usefull for grouping if you need to group by day.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:05 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL Question: Selecting and grouping by date
 
 
 Is there a way to select the datepart(mydate,mm/dd/yy) from 
 MSSQL? I can 
 only seem to return the Day, month or year, but not all 
 three. The field 
 contains date  time data and I am trying to group on the 
 date part  but 
 the time is throwing off the results.
 
 Brook
 
 
 
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Recommendations other than Verity

2002-07-26 Thread Justin Greene

Does anyone have any recommendations for an indexing solution other than
verity that integrates failry easily with Cold Fusion 4.5.  We are indexing
email and not only does verity not recognize the files as email, but it
cannot index the attachments (because it does not recognize the file as
email).  Additionally a 250MB mailbox generates a 4GB-6GB collection and
verity does not appear have a way to trim that.  I do not need a way to
index queries, just files.

TIA,
Justin


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RE: Recursive queries

2002-07-16 Thread Justin Greene

There is an example in the SQL Server book on-line on how to do this.  I do
not remember where, but it does not use recursion.  Recursion is very cool
(I happen to love it) but is not terribly efficient, probably why LISP never
caught on.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Recursive queries
 
 Still trying to decide how I like to perform some type of recursive
 query wth the following Table structure;
 
 ID   NAME   PARENT_ID
 
 If the current record IS the parent then the Parent ID is 0
 
 Otherwise the child has the ID of the parent as it's Parent ID.
 
 
 Anyone have any good references on recursive queries to handle this? A
 way to spider down through the parents and children basically.
 
 Ive done this before using Stored Procs and temp tables, but there has
 to be an easier way.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 
 -chris.alvarado
 [ application developer ]
 4 Guys Interactive, Inc.
 http://www.4guys.com 
 
 -- I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate.
 And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
 it. -- Jack Handy
 
 
 
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Macromedia selling partner information?

2002-07-16 Thread Justin Greene

The follow unsolicited email was received to a Disposable Email Address only
used for my now expired Allaire Cold Fusion Partner program registration.  I
cannot even check my preferences as I no longer  have an account.  Anyone
else get this and does anyone recall if the partners policy provides for the
selling of our information?

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PaperThin Offers Powerful, Affordable Content Management
 Solution
 
 Are you looking for an affordable, full-featured content 
 management solution for your customers?  
 
 Then consider PaperThin's award-winning CommonSpot Content Server 3.0.
SNIP

 Call me today if you'd like to learn more about 
 CommonSpot Content Server, the leading ColdFusion-based 
 content management solution.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 
 Eric Long
 PaperThin, Inc.
 www.paperthin.com
 781-934-7838 x 217
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 PaperThin respects your need for privacy. If you do not 
 wish to receive further communications from PaperThin, 
 you can unsubscribe by replying to this email with the 
 word REMOVE in the subject line.
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Macromedia selling partner information?

2002-07-16 Thread Justin Greene

Here is the response from them RE: where they got my info.  Honest, but a
little vague as to whether Macromedia gave them the named or they harvested
them.

Sir

Our marketing team got it from Macromedia.  I am truly sorry if it upset
you. I will remove your name.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:19 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: PaperThin Offers Powerful, Affordable Content Management
Solution

Where did you get my email address?

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PaperThin Offers Powerful, Affordable Content Management
 Solution
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Meg-Ann Meaney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 5:29 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: FW: Macromedia selling partner information?
 
 Hello:
 
 Neither Allaire nor Macromedia sold the Allaire partner 
 names.  I am investigating how this may have occurred, but 
 understand that companies have screen scraped company names 
 from the website.  As past partners, there would have been a 
 time when you were included in search results intended for 
 customers to locate partners with a particular expertise.
 
 I will update you when I learn more.
 
 Best regards,
 Meg Meaney
 Director, Partner Programs
 Macromedia, Inc.

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RE: Hardware question

2002-07-14 Thread Justin Greene

The big issue with IDE v. SCSI is that with IDE the system CPU handles the
I/O and therefore creates additional load.  If your application is not
loading the disk I/O system heavily this will probably not make much of a
difference, however if it is or should you have to rebuild one of the disks
in your array do to a failure, your system will slow to a crawl.  I have
found that servers are pretty unusable while an IDE RAID is rebuilding.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Hardware question
 
 
 If I build a CF Server, say a Dual 1.4Gz P4 with 1 or 2 GB RAM, would 
 I get much a performance hit if I went with a Raid 1 ATA/100 80 GB 
 Dual HDD setup as opposed to SCSI?
 
 Curious.
 
 Thanks,
 -- 
 
 Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
 
 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
 ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.twcreations.com/
 954.721.3452
 
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RE: Querying 1 million records

2002-07-12 Thread Justin Greene

Are you actually planning on returning a million rows to CF and trying to
display or manipulate it somehow or just indicating that the tables will be
large and you are querying against a million rows?  If the former, good
luck.  Moving a million rows out of one DB and into another using Cold
Fusion will take en eternity as you will have to do the inserts one row at a
time.  Better to bulk out and bulk in the data or something along those
lines.

Justin

p.s. We use CF all the time with tables that has 10+ million rows, the db is
the issue, not CF.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Querying 1 million records
 
 Im going to have to deal with some large amounts of data, queries that
 select 1 million records.
 
 Is this something CF should be able to handle?  (CF5 on 
 win2000 with 512
 RAM)
 
 One thing I want to do is query one DB and insert recs to another DB,
 approx. 1 million recs.
 
 Thanks for any advice,
 Jeff
 
 
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RE: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

2002-07-10 Thread Justin Greene

I have been using the same Spamex Disposable Email Address
(http://www.spamex.com) on this list for 18 months and this is the only
place that the address has been used and my real email address is in the
list going back to the very beginning, but I have not received the email in
question to either.  If someone is harvesting then they are being selective.

BTW: It is really tough for the list owner to prevent harvesting unless
subscriptions are moderated.  List subscribers need to protect themselves
with something like Spamex Disposable Email Addresses
(http://www.spamex.com).  You cannot leave the door unlocked and then get
upset it you get robbed! (shameless self promotion and somewhat on target as
the site is coded in CF).

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
 
 The old archives then. The new archives do not show a persons 
 email address unless the person is using an email package 
 that does not show their 'normal' name. 
 (http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messag
esthreadid=13814forumid=4)
Below is the start of an article I'm writing on it (about 3 pages in
already):
Email addresses all follow a standard format. The problem is that there 
are more than one standard. Below are the 5 ways in which an email address 
will be formatted:
Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Name)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the first 3 examples, a 'plain text' name is sent along with the email 
address. In the last 2, only an email address is sent. This gives us a 
challenge to work with; how to parse the full email address to get the 
plain text name and the actual email address. The answer is actually 
easier than one would think. Lets write a User Defined Function (UDF) to 
do this.


 They could also be using the archives for skimming...
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
 
 
  I'll check out if this group is subscribed and remove them. I'll also
ban the domain from the list. SKIMMING IS NOT
 ALLOWED HERE. I find out the name of the person who uses this list for
spam the world will know it and he'll be
 blacklisted from any resource I have any connection with.
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RE: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

2002-07-10 Thread Justin Greene

What you describe is typically called a tagged email address and it is the
same premise that Disposable Email Addresses work on.  If you are a mail
admin, you can easily create tagged addresses as you describe, however
Disposable Email Address Services offer many conveniences that make them
prefereable to doing it in the smtp software manually (such as the ability
to reply and have it come from the Disposable Email Address, to track
history of who has sent what, to selectively turn them on and off as needed,
etc).

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
 
 What's the difference in spamex.com and setting up a wildcard?
 
 For instance, if your website asks for my email address, I'll put
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If I get junk from that address, 
 I know who's
 responsible.  Plus, it's easier to remember which 
 disposable address I
 entered for your site.
 
 -Brad
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Justin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:25 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
 
 
  I have been using the same Spamex Disposable Email Address
  (http://www.spamex.com) on this list for 18 months and this 
 is the only
  place that the address has been used and my real email 
 address is in the
  list going back to the very beginning, but I have not received
  the email in
  question to either.  If someone is harvesting then they are being
  selective.
 
  BTW: It is really tough for the list owner to prevent 
 harvesting unless
  subscriptions are moderated.  List subscribers need to 
 protect themselves
  with something like Spamex Disposable Email Addresses
  (http://www.spamex.com).  You cannot leave the door 
 unlocked and then get
  upset it you get robbed! (shameless self promotion and somewhat
  on target as
  the site is coded in CF).
 
  Justin
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
 
  The old archives then. The new archives do not show a persons
  email address unless the person is using an email package
  that does not show their 'normal' name.
  (http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messag
 esthreadid=13814forumid=4)
 Below is the start of an article I'm writing on it (about 3 pages in
 already):
 Email addresses all follow a standard format. The problem is that there
 are more than one standard. Below are the 5 ways in which an
 email address
 will be formatted:
 Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Name)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 In the first 3 examples, a 'plain text' name is sent along with the email
 address. In the last 2, only an email address is sent. This gives us a
 challenge to work with; how to parse the full email address to get the
 plain text name and the actual email address. The answer is actually
 easier than one would think. Lets write a User Defined Function (UDF) to
 do this.


  They could also be using the archives for skimming...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
 
 
   I'll check out if this group is subscribed and remove them. I'll also
 ban the domain from the list. SKIMMING IS NOT
  ALLOWED HERE. I find out the name of the person who uses this list for
 spam the world will know it and he'll be
  blacklisted from any resource I have any connection with.
 

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RE: Managing list subscriptions (was Skimmin the list.......? [oT ])

2002-07-10 Thread Justin Greene

Personally, I avoid using catch all addresses.  The first time you get hit
with a dictionary attack to your mail server and have 50,000+ messages in
your catch all address mailbox you will wish you assigned the addresses one
by one.  Using a catchall also makes it diffucult to turn off the addresses
that are compromised, you now have to add a rule our router entry to
blackhole the bad addresses since you are catching all...

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:36 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Skimmin the list...? [oT]

 This is what we do as well. Very effective and easy to remember --- if
 you have the ability to have a catch-all on your domain name, 
 that only
 you receiveSince I am the admin of ALL email addresses for us, I
 catch all the wildcards.
 
 Erika
 
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 | 
 | What's the difference in spamex.com and setting up a wildcard?
 | 
 | For instance, if your website asks for my email address, 
 | I'll put [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If I get junk from 
 | that address, I know who's responsible.  Plus, it's easier 
 | to remember which disposable address I entered for your site.
 
 
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RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?

2002-07-01 Thread Justin Greene

I have to say that CF does not sound like the best tool to use for something
like this.  Perhaps it can be done... write to the spool directly and let
DART (if they still use that for mail) pick up the messages and send them,
but CF is not that fast and if you want to handle max volume on min hardware
you need speed end efficiency (don't you end up with a page that has to run
for an hour to complete the task?).  I can see using CF to admin the email
app but I would think that a nice tight C++ mailer that sends email in
batches and marks when things have been successfully queued (to allow
restarts without re-sending to everyone) would work much better.  Also,
queuing the messages is not the only issue (as was pointed out earlier).
You will need a fair amount of bandwidth and a huge number of outbound
connections on your MTA to handle delivery of all those messages (4M
messages/60min/60sec =  connections/sec and a connection could take a
few seconds).  Plan on having a bunch of outbound MTA's handling the actual
delivery.

When we have built apps that send email, We typically use a queue in a table
to control who is getting the mail, then let the spoolers (the app that does
the sending) each query the table and grab messages in reasonable blocks for
delivery.  This allows multiple spoolers each handle their part of the load
and deliver to multiple MTA's.

Good luck doing this with CF.

Justin



 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:42 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
 
 We did use CF to generate the email files. I can't say how, but I can
 tell you that using cfloop and cffile to accomplish 
 writing millions
 of files in a short period of time is not a problem.
 
 -Matt
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:02 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
  
  That makes sense :)
  
  Did CF call a componet that wrote the files to the queue.
  
  I dont assume you did the following but I must ask to make 
 sure.  Did
 you
  happen to write the files by querying the DB for addresses then
 looping
  over
  the query (Ive heard cfloop is very slow) and using cffile to write
 the
  email to the mail server's queue?
  
  jeff
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:32 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
  
  
  Nope, can't be done using cfmail. We wrote files directly 
 to the mail
  server's queue.
  
  -Matt
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:10 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
  
   How exactly is this cf driven.  Cant imagine you did it 
 with cfmail.
  
   Jeff
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:25 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
  
  
   I developed a system using LSMTP that could easily do 4 million
  messages
   per hour that was driven from CF.
  
   -Matt
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
   
Hello,
   
Has anyone had experience in creating an emailing 
 solution driven
 by
ColdFusion and SQL on any platform with any mail server that is
   capable of
handling 4 million deliveries an hour?  If so, would you care to
  share
what
software you used to make it happen?  And do you have a live
 example
   of a
company using the system?
   
---mark
   

Mark Warrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Founder, Fusioneers.com / CTO, ZapConnect.com
Phone: 714-547-5386 / 714-667-0203 / Efax: 801-730-7289
http://www.warrick.net / http://www.fusioneers.com
http://www.zapconnect.com
ICQ: 125160 AIM: markwarric Yahoo: Serengeti

   
   
   
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?

2002-07-01 Thread Justin Greene

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
 
 Using CF makes a lot of sense if the organizations knowledge 
 is with CF.
 Writing a multi-threaded high-performance C++ application to pull data
 from a database and generate email files would take quite a 
 bit of work
 as compared to a CF based application.

Yes, but easier is not always better.  If CF is the choice because it is the
only option, then so be it, but I think it is not a great choice for this
type of application given the volume/hour.

 The fact that you used C++ and
 tight in the same sentence makes me think you don't know much 
 about C++
 as C++ based programs are anything but tight.

This really depends the definition of tight.  Mine is small and fast and I
see no reason why this would not be both.  To handle the desired volume I
suspect that it would have to be both.

 A more reasonable language to use for this job would be Perl, but the
 same knowledge problem comes up. Besides the real work is not sending
 the mail; it is dealing with the volume of bounces and unsubscribe
 requests that result.

Sure, perl would be great for this, but it is not fast.  We have some apps
using perl to send email and some using Java to send email (all back end
processes).  I would not use either if performance were an issue.  I prefer
to spend money on the right code to do the job than extra hardware to
compensate for the wrong code.  4 million messages/hour is a lot of
messages, the code should be as fast (note I did not say tight) as possible
or you will spend a fortune on buying more boxes.


Justin

 -Matt
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Justin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:23 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
  
  I have to say that CF does not sound like the best tool to use for
  something
  like this.  Perhaps it can be done... write to the spool 
 directly and
 let
  DART (if they still use that for mail) pick up the messages and send
 them,
  but CF is not that fast and if you want to handle max volume on min
  hardware
  you need speed end efficiency (don't you end up with a page that has
 to
  run
  for an hour to complete the task?).  I can see using CF to admin the
 email
  app but I would think that a nice tight C++ mailer that 
 sends email in
  batches and marks when things have been successfully queued 
 (to allow
  restarts without re-sending to everyone) would work much better.
 Also,
  queuing the messages is not the only issue (as was pointed out
 earlier).
  You will need a fair amount of bandwidth and a huge number 
 of outbound
  connections on your MTA to handle delivery of all those messages (4M
  messages/60min/60sec =  connections/sec and a connection could
 take a
  few seconds).  Plan on having a bunch of outbound MTA's handling the
  actual
  delivery.
  
  When we have built apps that send email, We typically use a 
 queue in a
  table
  to control who is getting the mail, then let the spoolers (the app
 that
  does
  the sending) each query the table and grab messages in reasonable
 blocks
  for
  delivery.  This allows multiple spoolers each handle their 
 part of the
  load
  and deliver to multiple MTA's.
  
  Good luck doing this with CF.
  
  Justin
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:42 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
  
   We did use CF to generate the email files. I can't say how, but I
 can
   tell you that using cfloop and cffile to accomplish
   writing millions
   of files in a short period of time is not a problem.
  
   -Matt
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
   
That makes sense :)
   
Did CF call a componet that wrote the files to the queue.
   
I dont assume you did the following but I must ask to make
   sure.  Did
   you
happen to write the files by querying the DB for addresses then
   looping
over
the query (Ive heard cfloop is very slow) and using cffile to
 write
   the
email to the mail server's queue?
   
jeff
   
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
   
   
Nope, can't be done using cfmail. We wrote files directly
   to the mail
server's queue.
   
-Matt
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible

RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?

2002-07-01 Thread Justin Greene

It is capable of sending up to a thousand emails per minute efficiently and
reliably,

if it could do this per second, it might work...

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:41 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?

 How about ActivMail? http://www.cfdev.com/activmail/
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2002 12:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
 
 
  CF takes it square on the chin because the CFMAIL tag is rather weak
 and
  polling frequency, maximum records in a directory and lack of
 expansion
  are
  nil
  
 That is only if you actually use the cfmail tag. I wouldn't 
 be caught dead
 using the cfmail tag for anything whether it was a single message or
 millions.
 
 -Matt
 
 
 
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RE: NT Firewalls

2002-06-21 Thread Justin Greene

I would not run a firewall on the NT box, but rather place a firewall
between the NT box and the rest of the world.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SOT: NT Firewalls
 
 
 Running public CF Servers, what firewall software do you all 
 use on your NT
 boxes?
 
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RE: LinkPoint

2002-06-20 Thread Justin Greene

We had problems with their CFX tag (I do not remember what they were) so we
used their Java classes to create our own CFX.  I can ask the developer who
did it for more info if you want it.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: LinkPoint
 
 Anyone here using Linkpoint and there CFX tag?
 
 I'm pulling my hair out try to figure out how to do a transaction void
 programmatically.
 
 If anyone has code they wouldn't mind sharing please let me know.
 
 Duane
 
 
 
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RE: Cookie Management 3rd Party Site

2002-06-20 Thread Justin Greene

We developed exactly this a while back for our ClicVU advertising product
and used a pixel to cookie and track the user (which is fairly common).  We
ended up building an apache module because cold fusion was not capable
(v4.5) of setting a cookie on a redirect or setting a cookie when returning
an image as the data for a .cfm page (if memory serves...).  Not sure if 5
will do this.  If you need to handle any volume, you will want to make it a
module for the web server that maintains it's own DB pool and not use CF.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Cassady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:26 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cookie Management 3rd Party Site
 
 I've recently been tasked to create a system similiar to systems like
 DoubleClick in tracking users (not the click-through).
 
 Basically:
 (1)Client places some of our code in their web site
 (2)Code triggers test of our cookie on visiting browser
 (3)If not cookie, then set
 (4)Read Cookie
 (5)Trigger Database activity on our server to record unique 
 user ID (from
 cookie) and website
 
 I'm a little lost on the type of code for our clients to 
 place on their
 site. I'm assuming JavaScript, to run a script from our 
 server. That we then
 set/read cookies and do database input. Not assuming any use 
 of the IFrame.
 Do not need to send or set picture, though that may be 
 required to open up
 the HTTP connection that allows us to set a cookied from our server.
 
 Does anybody have such code already developed, or knows of a 
 good set of
 examples on the net, or in a book, that I may be able to access?
 
 Thank you for your time.
 Stephen Cassady
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Hiding Info In View Source

2002-06-11 Thread Justin Greene

You cannot block the ability for someone determined to view your source, you
can only make it difficult.  I can telnet into the server and get the raw
html regardless of how much munging you do to the file and if you use
javascript to encrypt the file, I can write a routine to unencrypt the
javascript and so on and so forth...  You can make it tough, but not
impossible.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Vosika [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Hiding Info In View Source
 
 External javascript files maybe...
 
 Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Double Down [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:55 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Hiding Info In View Source
 
 Does anyone know of a way to hide some form fields in the view source
 code?
  
 TIA
  
 DDINC
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: Dynamically Naming Applications

2002-06-06 Thread Justin Greene

It seems to me that if you are trying to allow the same person to have
multiple sessions taking place from the same physical browser, then you just
need to track sessions in the URL and not use cookies.  This will allow as
many logins as you like from a single machine.  There should not be a reason
to dynamically change the application name, you just need a mechanism for
tracking sessions the is URL specific.  This does not sound like a
CFApplication issue.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Dynamically Naming Applications
 
 Is there a way to dynamically create an application name?  By this I 
 mean if you have a user that is accessing a site from two different 
 browser windows is there a way to separate their sessions?
 
 I have a few applicaitons that have various variables set 
 depending on 
 the user level of the person logged in.  What sometimes 
 happens is that 
 someone will log in as one user level in one window and a 
 different one 
 in another.  In some rare instances this doesn't cause a problem, 
 however when they log out from one window (and the 
 applicaiton deletes 
 the session as it's supposed to), the other window suddenly starts 
 blowing up all over the place.
 
 My thought was if I could dynamically generate an application 
 name for 
 the CFApplication tag.  Can this be done?
 
 Thanks!
 Hatton
 
 
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Verity quesition

2002-06-05 Thread Justin Greene

I am trying to index a number of documents that are basically text
documents, but have no file extension.  Verity seems to want a file
extension or it will not index the documents.  Is there a way to define the
collection to index these?

Justin


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RE: Verity quesition

2002-06-05 Thread Justin Greene

They are text files but the application that creates them does not add file
extensions.  A file does not have to be .txt to be a text file.

I am trying Daves solution... will see what happens.

Thanks,
Justin


 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Verity quesition
 
 You can create a custom query with Verity so verity thinks it 
 is putting
 together a collection of documents - while the documents are 
 actually just
 records from the database.. So if that text exists in a db 
 you can do it that
 way..
 
 But question - if they are text files - individual text files 
 - they have .txt
 extensions? Which Verity can search...
 
 jay
 
 Justin Greene wrote:
 
  I am trying to index a number of documents that are basically text
  documents, but have no file extension.  Verity seems to want a file
  extension or it will not index the documents.  Is there a 
 way to define the
  collection to index these?
 
  Justin
 
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RE: Random Values generated in SQL

2002-06-04 Thread Justin Greene

This is not really something that Transact SQL excels in, but I think the
way to handle it is to create a string 'ABCDEFGH' then in a while loop
select a number between 1  len(string) and and insert the number into a
temp table.  After N loops, I would exit the while loop, and select
substring(string,column,1) from the temp table. 

Justin


 -Original Message-
 From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:04 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Random Values generated in SQL
 
\
 
 1 column of output - 346 rows long - All values in the list will be
 randomly selected from 8 possible list items (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H)
 
 Output of 5 Rows
 
 D
 A
 B
 B
 C
 
 Thanks,
 Casey Cook
 
 
   
  
 bjohnson  
  
 @hostworks.coTo: CF-Talk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 m (Ben   cc:  
  
 Johnson) Subject: RE: 
 Random Values generated in SQL   
   
  
 06/04/02  
  
 05:01 PM  
  
 Please
  
 respond to
  
 cf-talk   
  
   
  
   
  
 
 
 
 
  Does anyone know in SQL how to generate 346 random selections from
  predefined list of 8 distinct values (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H). I 
 will be using
  query analyzer to complete this task, no coldfusion is involved.
 
 
 Casey,
  Can you be more specific?  Do you need 346 random rows?  
 Are you only
 choosing one column per row or do you need several columns?  
 Also, is this
 random or do you just need permutations/combinations of those 
 8 values?
 
 Basically, can you give me a mini-example of the output that 
 you want to
 see?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Ben Johnson
 Hostworks, Inc.
 
 
 
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RE: ORDER BY question

2002-05-29 Thread Justin Greene

If you only have 4 groupings then the case statement is the best solution
IMHO.  It will let you create the sequence column dynamically.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ORDER BY question
 
 Man!
 you guys went way over my head hear!
 : ]
 
 for this purpose
 since there are only 4 separate groupings
 i may just do 4 separate queries.
 
 not sure.
 
 thought i could do it like
 Order By tblJobTitle.TitleID=25, tblJobTitle.TitleID=26,
 tblJobTitle.TitleID=28, tblJobTitle.TitleID=4;
 
 
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RE: ORDER BY question

2002-05-28 Thread Justin Greene

The way to do this is definitely by creating a sequence field and ordering
by this field.  How the sequence is created is up to you... to hard code it
you do something like

select sequence = case when 'a' then 1 when 'z' then 2 when 'f' then 3 else
4 end), next field
from table

The case statement will let you evaluate the field and create a sequence
based on it, however, looking at your example, I think it would be wiser to
add a sequence table that related each job position to a sequence and
generate it this way.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:41 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ORDER BY question
 
 
 Create a new field called Sequence or something.
 Based on the data and the two elements you displayed
 there is no way without Hard-Coding it.
 
 
 
 Randy Adkins
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/02 15:39 PM 
 ok. ASC  DESC don't work on this one.
 
 i want to be able to ORDER BY in a specific order
 such as
 ORDER BY tblJobTitle.TitleID='25,26,28,4'
 
 is that possible?
 if not how else could i do it...
 
 !--- tblJobTitle.TitleID
 Partner=25
 Principal=26
 Senior Associate=28
 Associate=4 ---
 
 
 Thanks
 
 -paul
 
 
 
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RE: Question on Email Addresses

2002-05-21 Thread Justin Greene

We do a fair amount of parsing of email addresses for our
http://www.spamex.com service and found that the regex to properly parse
email and remain RFC compliant is actually about 1 page long (we found it
published somewhere).  We ended up not going the regex way due to the
complexity and just parsing the email address one character at a time to
isolate the email address.  Not as elegant but much easier.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Question on Email Addresses
 
 

 CFSET email=myname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cfset x=reReplaceNoCase(email,.*(.*).*,\1)
 CFOUTPUT#x#/CFOUTPUT
 
 
 On Mon, 20 May 2002, Randell B Adkins wrote:
 
  I am trying to parse an email address due to the
  friendly email addresses by using CFPOP.
  
  If the #FROM# resembles: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  then I am fine however since there are friendly email
  address which look like myname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  then I have to use HTMLEditFormat to get the email address.
  
  However using this code, does not FIND the  in the email 
  addresses that are Friendly however it will fine the @ symbol.
  
  What am I missing???
  
  cfset checkEmail = #HTMLEditFormat(from)#
  cfif #FindNoCase(,checkEmail,1)#
Email Start Point Located
  cfelse
!--- Use CheckEmail ---
If it is a Friendly Email Address then 
When I validate this in the DB, it looks
for the entire string myname [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
and NOT just the email address.
  /cfif
  
  sorry I am just not with it today to think about it any
  longer and I know it is something so dang simple that I
  am just overlooking...
  
  Thanks in Advance!
  
  
  NO - #findnocase(@,checkEmail,1)# - 
  /cfif
  #LEN(checkEmail)#
  
  br
  /cfoutput
  
  
 
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RE: mySQL vs. Access or MSDE

2002-05-21 Thread Justin Greene

Anyone have a feeling about the Microsoft Data Engine, which is supposed to
be a limited connection version of SQL that can upscale to SQL very easily
rather than Access?

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: mySQL vs. Access
 
 
 Which database would be better to use for a small Intranet with a few
 updatable pages, mySQL or Access?
 Any experiences using one over another? What about ease of use?
  
 Thanks,
 Dave 
  
  
 
 
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RE: mySQL vs. Access or MSDE

2002-05-21 Thread Justin Greene

That is what I thought.  I have not understood why people do not go this way
instead of using Access... seems like a better solution in terms future
scalability if one is looking to eventually move SQL Server.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:14 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: mySQL vs. Access or MSDE

  Anyone have a feeling about the Microsoft Data Engine, which 
  is supposed to be a limited connection version of SQL that 
  can upscale to SQL very easily rather than Access?
 
 It is SQL Server, essentially, with some minor limitations. 
 I've worked with
 it quite a bit, and like it for use instead of Access.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
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RE: Reading only part of a really big text file...

2002-05-21 Thread Justin Greene

(response to original message)

Most of the UNIX tools have been ported to NT.  Do a search on cygwin.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:12 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Reading only part of a really big text file...
 
 
 My .02...
 Simply put, cffile previous to MX is not the right tool for 
 parsing large
 text files. MX might not be great depending on if they used 
 any of Java's io
 buffering. I haven't put cffile in mx through a torture test 
 yet, and I had
 to reinstall my machine with the preview release on it. If 
 someone out there
 feels like doing some comparisons, I for one am really curious :)
 However parsing text is one of the most basic tasks in any 
 language. You
 might want to take the oppurtunity to hone your Java skills 
 in preparation
 for the brave new world we are entering...
 
 Check out this UDF for how to use Java's ability to treat a 
 file as a stream
 allowing you to use CF to parse bite size chunks of the file. 
 It probably
 isn't that speedy as it sits, but add a buffer and performace 
 would go way
 up. However if you leave out the part where it concatenates 
 the file into
 memory and just do your parsing in the loop, it will probably 
 use a lot less
 memory than cffile alone would require.
 http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=417
 
 On the other hand, using SQL Server would be the easiest way 
 to do this
 imho.
 
 jon
 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Nahm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:05 PM
 Subject: RE: Reading only part of a really big text file...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  What, may I ask, are you trying to do with it?
 
  I guess analyze for patterns would be the best description. 
  Basically
 just
  wanted to do text searches for key phrases.
 
  If you are trying to garner info out of it, may I suggest grep,
  sed  awk, or perl? Depending on your need for searching.
 
  Are these Unix tools?  We are running Windows 2K.
 
  If you need to query it as if it were data, do you have access to
  MSSQL and DTS? You could import the whole darn thing into a table.
  
  If you need to analyze the info in it (look for patterns and
  such), there are a number of free web log analysis tools out there.
 
  Thanks, I was not aware of this.
 
  Charles Nahm
  Sonic Networks Inc.
 
 
 
 
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RE: mySQL vs. Access or MSDE (worm note)

2002-05-21 Thread Justin Greene

The easiest way to avoid this is to close port 1433 in the firewall except
from relevant IP addresses.  We only allow connections from our office and
if someone is offsite they have to either tunnel into the production
environment or tunnel into the office to access the SQL servers.  I would
never leave critical services exposed from any WAN IP.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:30 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: mySQL vs. Access or MSDE (worm note)
 
 What about Access 2002? Does it include MSDE and does it 
 listen on port 1433
 as a default? We started to see a lot of invalid logins to 
 our SQL Servers
 last night I was thinking what kind of SQL Admin in their 
 right mind
 would leave the sa password blank, certainly there can't be that many
 irresponsible SQL Admins out there, but if these are MSDE 
 installations
 getting infected it makes more sense
 
 jon
 - Original Message -
 From: chad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:23 PM
 Subject: RE: mySQL vs. Access or MSDE (worm note)
 
 
  I should have mentioned it in my last post about the MS SQL worm.
 
  Starting with Access 2000, Microsoft began to ship a 
 stripped down version
  of SQL Server called Microsoft SQLServer Desktop Edition 
 (MSDE). It was
 not
  installed by default in an Access 2000 install, but was 
 available as an
  add-on on the installation disks. If installed, no password 
 is set for the
  SA account.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: MS SQL vs MySQL WAS: [admin] List status

2002-05-17 Thread Justin Greene

Last time I checked it did not support refrential integrity, you enforce it
manually.  This and lack of stored procedure support is enough to keep me
away (as much as I would like a free/cheap alternative).

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: MS SQL vs MySQL WAS: [admin] List status
 
 I should have been more specific, but I mean in terms of 
 features and not just speed. 
 
 I use stored procs almost exclusively and thats my only 
 main gripe about MySQL.
 
 
 --
 Clint Tredway
 --
 Through Him, anything is possible.
  What about the recent comparison in eWeek between MySQL, Oracl9i and
  SQL2k? MySQL was neck and neck with Oracle in response time and
  throughput, both better than SQL2k?
  
   I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but
   when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs
   versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just
   wanted to pay for MS SQL.
   
   --
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   --
   Through Him, anything is possible.
Can you say crap. :)
   
I am not a big fan of MySQL.  I have to do some work 
 in it and it pales
in comparison.
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status
   
Can you say MySQL?
   
g
   
- Original Message -
From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status
   
   
 Actually, we just priced this:

 It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server 
 Standard edition and
about
 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want 
 Enterprise
edition. The
 difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools.

   
   
   
   
   
  
   
  
 
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RE: Re[2]: clustering Cold Fusion

2002-05-10 Thread Justin Greene

I Have to agree.  Hardware based clustering for the front end... and either
SQL Enterprise or Veritas on the backend to handle the database cluster.
Very solid configuration.  We have been hardware clustering CF with Alteons
for over 3 years.  Just need to keep sessions in the DB and make sure the
web boxes keep the file systems synched.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: clustering Cold Fusion
 
SNIP

 Not necessarily. If you use hardware-based clustering, you 
 can continue to
 use CF Professional. If you want to use software-based clustering, CF
 Enterprise provides ClusterCATS. I'd recommend hardware-based 
 clustering,
 personally, if it's an option.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444
 
 
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RE: Calling server code without reloading

2002-05-01 Thread Justin Greene

I just went through a few days of trying to figure this out and found that
the only two ways were using a javascript to load a .gif and passing the
parameters or using a hidden frame and dynamically changing the frame src.
If you have control over the page you are submitting and can cause it return
a .gif content type then the .gif method is the easiest.  If you do not have
control over the page then the hidden frame method will work the best as you
will be able to confirm that the page is loaded.  I have a URL at home on
this that I will forward tonight as I cannot seem to find it from here.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:26 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Calling server code without reloading
 
 
 Lets say I have a form field on a page. When I type in it, I 
 want what I have typed to be sent to the server and something 
 done to it. THe result of that something will come back to me 
 and be loaded into a different form field. This should be 
 done without reloading the page. 
 Normally, I'd do this with a hidden frame and some 
 javascript. I've been asked to do it some other way using 
 layers, objects or other stuff. I'm researching it but I 
 might as well ask if anyone here has heard of something in this area.
 Thanks
 
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RE: SQL Backup/Restore Question

2002-04-05 Thread Justin Greene

If you do a full backup and truncate the logs and you can only restore from
the most recent backup and then rolling forward the subsequent logs.  If you
do a full backup but do not truncate the logs, I do not think you will be
able to roll the logs forward on a restore, but I have never tried.  I would
suggest testing this if it is part of the decision process.

Justin

p.s. I have never heard of the latter being possible.  Have you actually
done this with informix

 -Original Message-
 From: Gieseman, Athelene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: SQL Backup/Restore Question
 
 Recently someone told me something about MS SQL 
 backup/restore that I would
 like to verify.  I haven't been able to find anything in any 
 books or on the
 MS site to clarify.  So I thought I'd ask here for either a 
 direct answer or
 a place to go search.
 
 The Scenario:
 
 Backups are done every night at midnight.  In between, backups of the
 transaction logs are done every two hours.
 
 The question:
 
 It's Thursday.  I need to restore my database, but the most 
 recent backup
 (e.g., Wed night) is corrupt.  Can I go back to the previous 
 backup (e.g.
 Tue night) and apply all of the transaction logs through 
 Thursday?  Or would
 I only be able to apply them up until the Wednesday night backup?
 
 I've been told that MS SQL won't let me apply transaction 
 logs for (in this
 example) Thursday unless I started with the Wednesday night 
 backup.  I know
 Informix would allow me to apply all of the logs.  We're 
 about to switch to
 MS SQL and I want to be sure we set up the appropriate backup 
 procedures.
 
 Any thoughts on how I could get to the bottom of this would 
 be appreciated.
 
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RE: How do I let the ColdFusion server wait between two commands

2002-04-02 Thread Justin Greene

The problem with all the solution except this one is that they tie up a
connection on the server, which is the last thing you want to do.  Better to
put the pause on the client side or have the client keep checking whether
the task is complete.  Perhaps with a simple META REFRESH to check for the
file.

Justin


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:34 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How do I let the ColdFusion server wait between two
 commands
 
 Or better yet,
 
 cfscript
 function sleep(timeMillis) {
   var thread = createObject(java, java.lang.Thread);
   thread.sleep(timeMillis);
 }
 /cfscript
 
 Haven't tested it yet, but that should work.
 
 Robert Everland III
 Dixon Ticonderoga
 Web Developer Extraordinaire
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Eidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:23 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How do I let the ColdFusion server wait between two
 commands
 
 
 There is a custom tag for this.
 
 CFX_SLEEP SLEEPTIME=3
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Broek, ir. M.A. van den [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: How do I let the ColdFusion server wait between two commands
 
 
 Hello, 
 
 I would like to zip a few files with cfexecute and then 
 redirect to this zip
 file (see code below). The ColdFusion server has two wait a 
 few seconds
 before the cflocation is executed, because it takes some 
 time to zip the
 files. How can I accomplish that?
 
 Thank you, 
 
 Machteld
 
 
 cflock timeout=15 throwontimeout=Yes name=zipper 
 type=EXCLUSIVE
 cfexecute name = D:\Progra~1\WinZip\wzzip.exe
   arguments = E:\ArcIMS\Output\#ID#.zip #LocationDir#\#ID#.* 
 /cfexecute
 /cflock
 
 cflocation url=http://#Session.ServerName#/Output/#ID#.zip;
 
 
 
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RE: SQL case insensitive search ???

2002-03-15 Thread Justin Greene

Just to be safe I would probably recommend

WHERE lower(searchfield) LIKE lower('%he%')

however, anytime you perform an evaluation on the left side of the = you
force a table scan, which can create performance issues.  This is the
problem with trying to do case insensitive searches in a DB that was
installed case sensitive.  If you need to be case insensitive I suggest
reinstalling the DB in this mode and reloading your data.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL case insensitive search ???
 
 
 Use a string function to force the search field to the same 
 case as the
 search string:
 
 WHERE lower(searchfield) LIKE '%he%'
 
  Example '%he%' finds 'the' but not 'THE'
 
  I would like to find regardless of case...
 
  How is that done?
 
 
  At 09:38 PM 3/14/02 -0800, you wrote:
  it should be case insensitive to begin with?
  
  All '%searchString%' does is cause your query to table 
 scan the whole
  table since the wildcard is in front.
  
  J.
  
  John Wilker
  Web Applications Consultant, and Author
  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
  President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG.
  www.red-omega.com
  
  more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane 
 crashes each year
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:36 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL case insensitive search ???
  
  
  how does one go about structuring a case insensitive 
 search on a text
  field in a database?
  
  Currently using
  
  WHERE Table.FieldName LIKE '%searchString%'
  
  Thanks,
  Brian
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: weird sql error

2002-03-14 Thread Justin Greene

How about the missing comma in the Values part of your query...  looks like
a temp stored procedure is being created and choking between parameters 10
and 11.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Jen Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:38 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: weird sql error
 
 I keep getting a really strange sql error and I don't know 
 what the heck
 it's coming from.
 
 ===
 DETAIL: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Line 
 33: Incorrect
 syntax near '@P11'.
 
 SQL = SET NOCOUNT ON INSERT INTO images ( archiveFlag, 
 approvalTypeID,
 deletedFlag, imageExtensionID, contentTypeID, addedBy, modifiedBy,
 dateAdded, dateModified, mediaFilesize, mediaHeight, 
 mediaWidth, filename,
 title, alt, caption) VALUES ( ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ? ?, 
 ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
 SET NOCOUNT OFF SELECT @@IDENTITY AS newID
 
 Query Parameter Value(s) -
 Parameter #1 = 0
 Parameter #2 = 10
 Parameter #3 = 0
 Parameter #4 = 0
 Parameter #5 = 112
 Parameter #6 = 100
 Parameter #7 = 100
 Parameter #8 = {ts '2002-03-14 10:51:32'}
 Parameter #9 = {ts '2002-03-14 10:51:32'}
 Parameter #10 = 153654
 Parameter #11 = 0
 Parameter #12 = 0
 Parameter #13 = 9906-feeding_031402_105132.bmp
 Parameter #14 = test
 Parameter #15 =
 Parameter #16 =
 ===
 
 I've done a cf_dump of all the variable scopes and I can't 
 figure out where
 this @P11 is coming from.  Anyone run across something like 
 this before?
 
 
 
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RE: CFTransactions and SQL Transactions?

2002-03-12 Thread Justin Greene

I would also like to point out that whenever you are dealing with
transaction you INCREASE the possibility of incurring deadlocks and general
slowdown because the lock manager overworking.  You need to keep
transactions short and keep a close eye on the what is happening inside of
the transaction as everything you do will create some form of lock on the
effected table.  Putting the transaction on the CF level seems to be asking
for trouble to me.  Chances are the transaction does not need to encapsulate
the whole procedure.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:58 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFTransactions and SQL Transactions?
 
 In my experience, this would be better done in a single 
 stored procedure
 call (which would then call any other required stored procs). 
  SQL Server
 supports nested transactions, so each of your 'child' stored 
 procs can also
 use transactions if required.
 
 If you are writing this from scratch, put as much logic as 
 you can into the
 stored procs (afterall, the database server is meant to 
 handle data for you,
 whereas your web server is meant to present web pages).
 
 As for CFTRANSACTION, we are unclear on how it could handle a 
 rollback if
 you have stored procs within it that have committed their SQL 
 Transactions.
 
 Until I hear more, I'm recommending to my team to NOT use 
 CFTransaction for
 that reason.  The data for our current app is critical, and 
 we have to stick
 with methods we know to work well.
 
 Let me know if you hear any more on this.  I'm not getting 
 the impression
 that I'll see lots on this from the list.
 
 Shawn Grover
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFTransactions and SQL Transactions?
 
 
 Shawn,
 
 I don't have an answer but am anxiously awaiting one.
 
 I have a case where in order to get some records into our SQL 
 database I
 execute a SP to enter a blank record and then call several 
 SP's to update
 different fields in the record with values.  I need to wrap this in a
 cftransaction and am just trying to gather some more 
 information before
 doing it.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:03 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFTransactions and SQL Transactions?
 
 
  This is a repost cuz I think I got lost in the shuffle on
  Friday, and no-one
  has responed yet.
 
  TIA.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:54 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFTransactions and SQL Transactions?
 
 
  I'm looking for more information about using CFTransaction.
  My personal opinion is that it's better to use SQL Server 
 transactions
  within our stored procedures (cuz we are using SQL 2000 as
  our back end),
  and transfer as much business logic as possible to the stored procs.
 
  However, in a few cases, we've seen the requirement for
  something like this:
 
  cftransaction action=BEGIN
  cfstoredproc/cfstoredproc
  cfif somecondition
  cfstoredproc/cfstoredproc
  cfelse
  cfstoredproc/cfstoredproc
  /cfif
  /cftransaction
 
  My concerns are that this may cause problems if the stored 
 procedures
  themselves contain transaction processing.  And I need to make a
  recommendation based on solid information on whether to allow
  this process,
  or force the developers to take the time to wrap this logic 
 within one
  stored proc call.  (of course, they can call existing stored
  procs from
  within a stored procedure, and check the return codes to
  determine if a
  rollback needs to happen before processing is complete).
 
  So, any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: Anybody heard of this?

2002-02-11 Thread Justin Greene

You can write to the registry on IE with a signed applet so make sure 
that
you are set to warn you before running such things.  This is probably 
what
happened.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Anybody heard of this?
 
 
 -- Spamex - Forums Now Available http://forums.spamex.com/forums/
 -- Replies will be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -- Additional Info: http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=52
 
 Thanks John.
 
 When these scum bags hit, it makes me wish I could send about 
 10K volts
 through the net to their servers!  LOL  POW!  Blast 'em into a 
billion
 pieces!8-)
 
 Dave
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:51 AM
 Subject: RE: Anybody heard of this?
 
 
 Dave,
 
 Found this on Google, though I didn't have the key (probably 
 a different
 version of IE):
 
 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet 
 Explorer\Control
 Panel]
 
 Double-click the HomePage value and change it to 00 00 00 00
 
 
 Also, you can manually change the start page back via the reg by 
going
 to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
 and changing the value of Start Page to whatever you want it to be.
 
 HTH,
 JC
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Anybody heard of this?
 
 I has some spam in my email this morning.  It immediately 
 popped me to a
 porn site.  What it did though, was reset my start page through their
 server, and I now, cannot reset my start page.  It's greyed out.  The
 URL of
 this scum company is:
 http://www.duolaimi.net (don't click on the URL)
 My start page URL now looks like
 http://www.duolaimi.net/d.asp?http://myURLhere.com
 
 If I go into Internet Options, it does not allow me to change 
 the Start
 Page
 settings.  What's the fix for this?  Anybody know?
 
 Thanks,
 Dave
 
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RE: CFStoredProc vs CFQUERY

2002-01-29 Thread Justin Greene

Do not know about speed, but access to output parameters and the 
ability to
trap an error (i.e. detect that an error code was returned) are in
themselves worth it.

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Durette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFStoredProc vs CFQUERY
 
 Thanks for the info, does anyone know if one is faster than the 
other?
 
 Steve
 - Original Message -
 From: Shawn Grover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:29 PM
 Subject: RE: CFStoredProc vs CFQUERY
 
 
  Use the CFPROCRESULT name=MyQueryObject inside the CFSTOREDPROC
  tags
  (normally the last one specified)...
 
  Using cfstoredproc tags eliminates a bunch of errors - in 
 the CFQuery
  call,
  how do you know the Date is a proper format?  the cfprocparam tags
  handle
  any neccessary conversion (within reason) for you.
 
  Also, with cfstoredproc, you can have multiple recordsets 
 returned, and
  have
  access to the Stored Procedures return value.  You can't do 
 that with
  CFQuery.
 
  Shawn Grover
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steven Durette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 6:15 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFStoredProc vs CFQUERY
 
 
  I was just wondering if any one knew the difference between the
  following:
 
  CFSTOREDPROC PROCEDURE=usp_myproc DATASOURCE=mydatasource
  CFPROCPARAM TYPE=IN CFSQLTYPE = CF_SQL_DATE VARIABLE = 
FOO
 
  dbVarName = @param2 CFPROCPARAM TYPE=IN CFSQLTYPE  = CF_SQL_INTERGER 
VARIABL=
 
  BAR dbVarName = @param3
  /CFSTOREDPROC
 
  AND THIS:
 
  CFQUERY Name=qryMyQuery DATASOURCE=mydatasource
  {CALL usp_myproc(01/23/1971, 31)}
  /CFQUERY
 
  Also, when the stored procedure returns a query, how would 
 you access
  it
  through the first method?  The second method at least allows you to
  name
  the query so that you can access the resulting recordset.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Steve Durette
  Database Administrator/Web Developer
  Engineering/Construction System Support
  SBC/Ameritech
 
 
 
  
 

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RE: Speeding up select queries

2002-01-02 Thread Justin Greene

It will be far more efficient to do the whole query in SQL rather than
creating 2 queries in CF.  Let SQL do the work, it is very good at it.  I
suspect that you IN clause is causing the Query optimizer to have problems
determining which index to use which is why you are seeing a huge difference
in run time between the query with or without the ZIP list.  You need to
look at the plan for both queries and see which indexes it is using (the
latter may be forcing a table scan).  You can force the use of the right
index as part of your query, just make sure you are using the right one.

Converting this to a Stored procedure will save in little time as it will
not have to compile the procedure every time it is run, but it may make the
IN clause hard to pass (though in General I always recommend using stored
procedures over pass through SQL.

I would also change the nested queries to joins.  Maybe something like...

SELECT  O.FileNo,
O.Order_ID,
O.Appraiser_ID,
O.HouseNo,
O.Street,
O.UnitNo,
O.City,
O.County,
O.State_ID,
O.Date_Ordered,
O.time_ordered,
O.Appt_Date,
O.Appt_Time,
O.AMorPM,
O.Lender_ID,
O.Zip,
S.State AS State,
L.Lender AS ClientID
FROMT_Orders O,
T_States S,
T_Lenders L
WHERE   StatusType_ID = 3
AND Appt_Time  #DateAdd(h, -48,#Now()#)#
AND O.StateID = S.StateID
AND O.Lender_ID = L.Lender_ID
AND O.Zip IN (#ziplist#)

Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Speeding up select queries
 
 If you are using CF5, why not do this in 2 queries.  Query 
 the database and
 then query the query.
 
 cfquery name=getalllateorders datasource=#AppDSN#
 
 SELECT FileNo, Order_ID, Appraiser_ID, HouseNo, Street, 
 UnitNo, City, Cou
 nty,
 State_ID, 
 Date_Ordered,time_ordered,Appt_Date,Appt_Time,AMorPM, Lender_ID
 , Zip,
 (SELECT State FROM T_States WHERE State_ID = O.State_ID) AS 
 State, (SEL
 ECT
 Client_ID FROM T_Lenders WHERE Lender_ID = O.Lender_ID) AS Client_ID
 
   FROM T_Orders O WHERE   StatusType_ID = 3 AND Appt_Time  
 #DateAdd(h
 , -
 48,#Now()#)#
 
 /cfquery
 
 cfquery name=getlateorders dbtype=query
   Select * from getalllateorders
   Where Zip IN (#ziplist#)
 /cfquery
 
 
 This way you are only selecting zips from a much smaller recordsource.
 Should be much faster.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tracy Bost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:55 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Speeding up select queries
 
 
 This query takes about 47ms to execute, which I can live with that:
 
 
 
 cfquery name=getlateorders datasource=#AppDSN#
 
 SELECT FileNo, Order_ID, Appraiser_ID, HouseNo, Street, 
 UnitNo, City, Cou
 nty,
 State_ID, 
 Date_Ordered,time_ordered,Appt_Date,Appt_Time,AMorPM, Lender_ID
 , Zip,
 (SELECT State FROM T_States WHERE State_ID = O.State_ID) AS 
 State, (SEL
 ECT
 Client_ID FROM T_Lenders WHERE Lender_ID = O.Lender_ID) AS Client_ID
 
   FROM T_Orders O WHERE   StatusType_ID = 3 AND Appt_Time  
 #DateAdd(h
 , -
 48,#Now()#)#
 
 /cfquery
 
 
 BUT when I add this to the same query:
 
 AND Zip IN (#ziplist#)
 
 It takes anywhere from 45 to 50 seconds to execute. ziplist 
 is a variable
  taken
 from a session.ziplist that contains the user's authorized 
 zipcodes. It j
 ust
 started going slow, maybe there is a threshold after so many 
 zipcodes are
  in
 the list it will slow things down tremendously ?
 
 
 
 
 Quoting Sandy Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  General rules of thumb I use.
 
  Avoid Select *  always specify your fields.
 
  Fastest is to select fields in the following datatype 
 order, integers,
  numeric, strings according to field size.  Memo or Long 
 text fields are
  always last.  The latter one is most important because all fields
  selected
  after a long text field will load as unbound fields and 
 will slow the
  sql
  way down.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tracy Bost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:22 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Speeding up select queries
 
 
   What is the best approach to speed up select statements with a
  sql2000
  database? The data is constantly being 
 updated,deleted,inserted, throug
 h
  out
  the day with each user seeing data depending on his/her 
 access level an
 d
  assigned zip codes. I worry that using cachedwithin will not work in
  this
  senario, as using that will not allow to show data that has recently
  changed.
  ANY help, thoughts much appreciated.
 
  
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RE: CFContent (and other options)

2001-12-13 Thread Justin Greene

I would look at http://www.apache.org.  I believe the API is fairly well
documented.  When modules are loaded they are put onto an internal stack.
Each page request is passed to the module at the top of the stack which
looks at the request, handles or does not handle it and then passes it to
the next module flagging whether it processed or not.  The last module
loaded is the first to receive requests if I remember correctly.  When your
module sees a request, you can look at pretty much anything in the request
to determine if the module should handle it.  This lets you intercept any
page request, not just specific extensions, if desired.  You can also
preprocess a page, but not flag it and then it will get processed again by
the appropriaste module.

We have used this for a few things:

1. A cookie redirector - any page that does not have a cookie automatically
self-redirects and sets a cookie.  If the second request does not have a
cookie, we know the browser does not support cookies.

2. Intercepting of pages - prototype in Cold Fusion, then when speed is
needed, write a module to handle the one page and intercept the cold fusion
request.

3. Just plain writing of modules that handle things faster than Cold Fusion.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: cf refactoring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFContent (and other options)


Hi Justin,

This sounds really interesting. Can you point me to a
reference where I can learn how to build an apache
module like the one you made?

--- Justin Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 We created an apache module for doing this.  We
 intecept the .CFM request,
 check if it is the CFCONTENT page and if not, pass
 the request to Cold
 Fusion, if so, we handle the user authentication and
 return of data in the
 module.  This allowed us the flexibility of building
 in Cold Fusion with the
 performance of using a C++ module when we needed the
 speed.  Our throughput,
 including a single database call, went from about 23
 connections/sec in CF
 to 160 connections/sec with the module.
 
 Justin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFContent (and other options)
 
 
 What do you use instead?  I've been doing some
 testing with the different
 tags and this is what I came up with:
 
 meta tag is very difficult to backup from.  The
 users look/print the pdf
 then have to double click the back button.  And
 after making a few reports
 the thing locks up/won't back up and they have to
 log in again.
 embed works great on the PC, but not for the mac
 or on our wireless.  On
 the mac you can't read the pdf in the browser and
 then it prints out funny
 (ie: losing it's landscape formatting). Also it
 wouldn't pull up the bulk
 pdfs (over 20pgs)just the individual ones (we're
 doing report cards-it'll
 pull up individual ones but not for a whole class).
 It doesn't work on the
 wireless either.
 
 cfcontent works on almost everything, but the
 wireless and the few
 machines. On the wireless we get a msg about the
 index24  
 
 What's the better thing to use
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFContent
 
 
 I've run into the same problem and oddly enough, it
 was with a 98
 machine. My solution, and I don't know if this is
 the right answer but
 it worked, I told the user to uninstall their
 current version of Acrobat
 Reader and re-install Acrobat Reader 5. This worked
 for anyone who had
 the problem. I've since gone away from cfcontent as
 I experienced
 inconsistent results with that bastard of a tag.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:00 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFContent
 
 
 I'm using CFCONTENT to call a pdf form- It does fine
 on MAC IE and most
 pc
 IE and Netscape.
 However, on one browser a 98 machine with IE5.5 I
 can't get the pdf to
 show.
 Instead there is the box and the msg says Error
 Locating Object Handler
 There is no viewer available for the type of object
 you are trying to
 open.
 The following informantion is available about this
 object.
 Address:  http://blahblah
 Content type:  text/html
 Possible location of viewer: Microsoft
 ActiveXGallery
 
 I took the Ben Forta advice and checked the Folder
 Options in Tools of
 Windows Explorer.  I went over it piece by piece
 comparing it to the
 settings of a browser that worked- I didn't see any
 differences.
 This browser has opened pdfs when I used the meta
 tag and the embed tag
 so I
 know that it does open pdfs...any suggestions?
 Thanks in advance,
 
 
 
 

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RE: 3 selects related and nightmare trees

2001-12-11 Thread Justin Greene

The below piece is from the SQL books online and provides a sample of
handling expanding heirarchies.  This may be what you are looking for
(though it will probably only work in SQL, not access)...

Expanding Hierarchies
Databases often store hierarchical information. For example, the following
data is a hierarchical representation of regions of the world. This
representation does not clearly show the structure implied by the data.

Parent Child 

-- --

World  Europe

World  North America 

Europe France

France Paris 

North America  United States 

North America  Canada

United States  New York  

United States  Washington

New York   New York City 

Washington Redmond   

  

This example is easier to interpret:

World

North America

Canada

United States

Washington

Redmond

New York

New York City

Europe

France

Paris

  

The following Transact-SQL procedure expands an encoded hierarchy to any
arbitrary depth. Although Transact-SQL supports recursion, it is more
efficient to use a temporary table as a stack to keep track of all of the
items for which processing has begun but is not complete. When processing is
complete for a particular item, it is removed from the stack. New items are
added to the stack as they are identified.

CREATE PROCEDURE expand (@current char(20)) as

SET NOCOUNT ON

DECLARE @level int, @line char(20)

CREATE TABLE #stack (item char(20), level int)

INSERT INTO #stack VALUES (@current, 1)

SELECT @level = 1

  

WHILE @level  0

BEGIN

IF EXISTS (SELECT * FROM #stack WHERE level = @level)

BEGIN

SELECT @current = item

FROM #stack

WHERE level = @level

SELECT @line = space(@level - 1) + @current

PRINT @line

DELETE FROM #stack

WHERE level = @level

AND item = @current

INSERT #stack

SELECT child, @level + 1

FROM hierarchy

WHERE parent = @current

IF @@ROWCOUNT  0

SELECT @level = @level + 1

END

ELSE

SELECT @level = @level - 1

END -- WHILE

  

The input parameter (@current) indicates the place in the hierarchy to
start. It also keeps track of the current item in the main loop.

The two local variables used are @level, which keeps track of the current
level in the hierarchy, and @line, which is a work area used to construct
the indented line. 

The SET NOCOUNT ON statement avoids cluttering up the output with ROWCOUNT
messages from each SELECT.

The temporary table, #stack, is created and primed with the item identifier
of the starting point in the hierarchy, and @level is set to match. The
level column in #stack allows the same item to appear at multiple levels in
the database. Although this situation does not apply to the geographic data
in the example, it can apply in other examples.

In this example, when @level is greater than 0, the procedure follows
several steps: 

If there are any items in the stack at the current level (@level), the
procedure chooses one and calls it @current. 
Indents the item @level spaces, and then prints the item. 
Deletes the item from the stack so it won't be processed again, and then
adds all its child items to the stack at the next level (@level + 1). This
is the only place where the hierarchy table (#stack) is used. 



Note With a conventional programming language, you would have to find each
child item and add it to the stack individually. With Transact-SQL, you can
find all child items and add them with a single statement, avoiding another
nested loop. 





If there are child items (IF @@ROWCOUNT  0), descends one level to process
them (@level = @level + 1); otherwise, continues processing at the current
level. 
Finally, if there are no items on the stack awaiting processing at the
current level, goes back up one level to see if there are any awaiting
processing at the previous level (@level = @level - 1). When there is no
previous level, the expansion is complete. 



-Original Message-
From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 

RE: CFContent (and other options)

2001-12-11 Thread Justin Greene

We created an apache module for doing this.  We intecept the .CFM request,
check if it is the CFCONTENT page and if not, pass the request to Cold
Fusion, if so, we handle the user authentication and return of data in the
module.  This allowed us the flexibility of building in Cold Fusion with the
performance of using a C++ module when we needed the speed.  Our throughput,
including a single database call, went from about 23 connections/sec in CF
to 160 connections/sec with the module.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFContent (and other options)


What do you use instead?  I've been doing some testing with the different
tags and this is what I came up with:

meta tag is very difficult to backup from.  The users look/print the pdf
then have to double click the back button.  And after making a few reports
the thing locks up/won't back up and they have to log in again.
embed works great on the PC, but not for the mac or on our wireless.  On
the mac you can't read the pdf in the browser and then it prints out funny
(ie: losing it's landscape formatting). Also it wouldn't pull up the bulk
pdfs (over 20pgs)just the individual ones (we're doing report cards-it'll
pull up individual ones but not for a whole class). It doesn't work on the
wireless either.

cfcontent works on almost everything, but the wireless and the few
machines. On the wireless we get a msg about the index24  

What's the better thing to use


-Original Message-
From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFContent


I've run into the same problem and oddly enough, it was with a 98
machine. My solution, and I don't know if this is the right answer but
it worked, I told the user to uninstall their current version of Acrobat
Reader and re-install Acrobat Reader 5. This worked for anyone who had
the problem. I've since gone away from cfcontent as I experienced
inconsistent results with that bastard of a tag.

Mark




-Original Message-
From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFContent


I'm using CFCONTENT to call a pdf form- It does fine on MAC IE and most
pc
IE and Netscape.
However, on one browser a 98 machine with IE5.5 I can't get the pdf to
show.
Instead there is the box and the msg says Error Locating Object Handler
There is no viewer available for the type of object you are trying to
open.
The following informantion is available about this object.
Address:  http://blahblah
Content type:  text/html
Possible location of viewer: Microsoft ActiveXGallery

I took the Ben Forta advice and checked the Folder Options in Tools of
Windows Explorer.  I went over it piece by piece comparing it to the
settings of a browser that worked- I didn't see any differences.
This browser has opened pdfs when I used the meta tag and the embed tag
so I
know that it does open pdfs...any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,



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RE: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-06 Thread Justin Greene

It is so funny to see this discussion keep cropping up.  The whole
blacklisting of open relays is a very touchy issue.  I agree that there is
little excuse for running an open relay in today's world (though some argue
that it is their right... I think this was an issue in MIT vs. MAPS).  I
will not agree however that running one makes you ignorant.  I have been
blacklisted and not notified.  The blacklist claims that it is not their
responsibility to let me know that I was listed.  Turns out that the mail
server we were using (post.office) has few bugs (or holes) in it's relay
filtering and that the only way to prevent it from being used as an open
relay is to IP restrict who can connect.  This is contrary to the
documentation.  I only found out about this because a users mail was being
rejected and I was able to get a copy of the test that had failed and
confirm the bug.  This information in hand I resolved it.  It have been nice
to know I had failed though so that it could have been resolved sooner, this
would have been even more effective than blocking me.

MAPS has basically been put out of business by getting sued over this issue
(I think it was the legal costs though, not the settlements that killed
them).  It will probably not be long before the others follow suit (no pun
intended).  The Internet is a collection of private networks and it is
within the rights of the owner of every single network to decide who may and
may not pass traffic across their backbone, so if they want to subscribe to
an ORB, it is their right, however you block someone with deep pockets and
you are in for an expensive fight, right or not.

my $.002

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Searching for ' with like clause with SQL Server

2001-11-28 Thread Justin Greene

Just came across something interesting that I thought I would pass 
along.
We were writing a query along the lines of

select *
from column
where value like 'o'brien'

This of course will not work and needs to be 

select *
from column
where value like 'o''brien'

however this was not working either.  After much head beating and hair
pulling we realized that our data was imported from word and used ´ 
rather
than ' so the query needed to read

select *
from column
where value like 'o[''´`]brien'

to actually find the data.  Of course it would have been nice if the 
data
was just clean.  Hope this saves someone some grief one day :-)

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RE: Apache 1.3

2001-11-28 Thread Justin Greene

This is usually related to the machine failing to resolve it's own hostname.
Not having the DLL loaded should not stop apache from starting.  Try
starting from the command line to see what error it gives you and if it
hostname related, make an entry in your hosts file to fool it.

Also, on W2K you do not need the addmodule directive.  Just the loadmodule.\

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Iceraven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Apache 1.3


Could you tell me what you put in your HTTpd.conf to make this work?

I get Failed to restart the apache service.

loadmodule coldfusion_module modules/mod_coldfusion.dll
then
addmodule mod_coldufsion.c


- Original Message - 
From: Tracy Bost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: Apache 1.3


 The dll has worked fine for me on w2k.
 
 The shared object(so) is for the *nix platforms.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Iceraven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:41 PM
 Subject: Apache 1.3
 
 
  the Coldfusion dll that comes with this appears to be bad, someone 
have 
  a .so that works for coldfusion 4.5 on windows 2k?
  
  
 

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Truncate Log on Checkpoint (was Large SQL log file)

2001-10-02 Thread Justin Greene

It was an oversimplification.  Didn't feel like typing then, don't mind
now... the problem with truncate logs at checkpoint is that you will only be
able to restore until the time of the last backup as there will be no
transaction logs to roll forward to get you completely up to date.  Any
database that is worth backing up, probably should not use this feature,
with the caveat that if you have to do a mass bcp or select into, you may
want to use it temporarily to prevent filling the transaction logs and then
when finished, turn it off and run a full backup immediately so that the
transaction log dumps will work again.

This of course gets into a discussion of backup strategies and how often to
run full backups and log dumps.  We typically do daily full backups and dump
the logs every 15 minutes.  As the db gets bigger the full backups take
longer and longer and one may want to do them less and look for slow times.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Large SQL log file 


 If you are speaking of your transaction log, you will need to 
 schedule more frequent backups or dump the transaction logs 
 periodically. If you set your database to truncate on checkpoint, 
 it will also prevent the logs from growing, however you will 
 eliminate your ability restore a damaged database from backup.

If I understand correctly, this isn't exactly true - it's an
oversimplification. You can still restore databases from backup, whether
you're truncating logs on checkpoint or not. If you truncate logs on
checkpoint, you can't restore the database from just the transaction log
itself. I can guarantee that we wouldn't use the option if it meant you
couldn't restore your databases!

You're right to point out, though, that using this setting does restrict the
ways in which you can backup and restore your databases, and probably
shouldn't be selected without that consideration.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496

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RE: Large SQL log file

2001-10-01 Thread Justin Greene

If you are speaking of the error log, you can use set how many error logs to
keep in the registry and set SQL Agent to rotate them daily, weekly,
whatever.  I do not remember the syntax but it is in the Microsoft
knowledgebase.  We are set to keep 30 days and we rotate daily.  Makes for
nice small logs that are easy to read.

If you are speaking of your transaction log, you will need to schedule more
frequent backups or dump the transaction logs periodically.  If you set your
database to truncate on checkpoint, it will also prevent the logs from
growing, however you will eliminate your ability restore a damaged database
from backup.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Bruce, Rodney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 7:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Large SQL log file 

Hello all

I have an SQL.log file that has grown to approx  2GB.  
How do I reset the options for this file/Delete it?
I have looked in the SQL manager, but cant seem to find were the
settings are.
I would like to limit what is being logged and to decrease the size
of the file itself.

Thanks for the help

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RE: cf and apache

2001-09-24 Thread Justin Greene

After a few conversations MM agreed to compile it and said it would be
available in a few weeks.  That was at the end of August.  I have asked for
an update but have not gotten a reply.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf and apache


Actually, now that you mention it, I forgot about that EAPI thing going
on. I get the error on startup (only when using the OpenSSL compiled
version) about the module, but it's been running fine and we've been
hitting it pretty hard.

What's the latest on the replacement module?

 Which version of apache are you running and what platform?  I have found
 that SSL on win32 with 1.3.20 apache required an EAPI Cold Fusion module
and
 MM has not yet made it available (though they said that they would after
the
 discussions on the list and some back and forth with their support
people).

 Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:43 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: cf and apache

 Works great with SSL too. No problems. It was a little tricky setting it
 up the first time, but I'm using OpenSSL with no issues.

 And of course, the first time, I was trying to import certificates created
 with Netscape server. THAT was a fun thing to do.

  Works great so long as you do not need SSL. Been running it for almost 3
  years without a problem.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Whalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:53 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: cf and apache
 
  How much experience do people have with CF and Apache? Anything to be
 aware
  of if switching from IIS. We are just about to buy a new box and with
all
  these nightmares people are having with nimba etc thought it might be a
 good
  idea.
 
 

 

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RE: cf and apache

2001-09-24 Thread Justin Greene

Correct.

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf and apache


For the windows version of the module?

-jesse




-Original Message-
From: Justin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf and apache


After a few conversations MM agreed to compile it and said it would be
available in a few weeks.  That was at the end of August.  I have asked for
an update but have not gotten a reply.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf and apache


Actually, now that you mention it, I forgot about that EAPI thing going
on. I get the error on startup (only when using the OpenSSL compiled
version) about the module, but it's been running fine and we've been
hitting it pretty hard.

What's the latest on the replacement module?

 Which version of apache are you running and what platform?  I have found
 that SSL on win32 with 1.3.20 apache required an EAPI Cold Fusion module
and
 MM has not yet made it available (though they said that they would after
the
 discussions on the list and some back and forth with their support
people).

 Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:43 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: cf and apache

 Works great with SSL too. No problems. It was a little tricky setting it
 up the first time, but I'm using OpenSSL with no issues.

 And of course, the first time, I was trying to import certificates created
 with Netscape server. THAT was a fun thing to do.

  Works great so long as you do not need SSL. Been running it for almost 3
  years without a problem.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Whalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:53 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: cf and apache
 
  How much experience do people have with CF and Apache? Anything to be
 aware
  of if switching from IIS. We are just about to buy a new box and with
all
  these nightmares people are having with nimba etc thought it might be a
 good
  idea.
 
 

 



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RE: Apache vs IIS speed on Windows

2001-09-24 Thread Justin Greene

I ran tests on Apache 1.12 on windows NT 4.0/sp 5 on a dual PIII 600 with
256MB ram.  Serving a .5K file it was able to push about 750 pages/sec.
Serving a 14K file it dropped to about 525 pages/sec, but I also noted that
the 100MB network was saturated.  Probably was bottlenecking the LAN (I
think this works out to about 60Mbits not counting network overhead).  I
never got to the follow up test which were to deliver a .CFM page with only
HTML in it (test the speed of the Cold Fusion module and test a .CFM page
with a database call that does nothing.  Also did not get to test the other
web servers (website and IIS and Apache on Linux) as intended.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Apach vs IIS speed on Windows


We all know the security concerns and what not, but what is a speed
comparrison between the two. Like how many pages per second can I expect
Apache to have and how many can I expect IIS to have. I would like to use
Apache but not if it is gonna hurt me speed wise. I stay on top of the
security issues by unmapping everything but CFM.



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RE: cf and apache

2001-09-23 Thread Justin Greene

Which version of apache are you running and what platform?  I have found
that SSL on win32 with 1.3.20 apache required an EAPI Cold Fusion module and
MM has not yet made it available (though they said that they would after the
discussions on the list and some back and forth with their support people).

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf and apache

Works great with SSL too. No problems. It was a little tricky setting it
up the first time, but I'm using OpenSSL with no issues.

And of course, the first time, I was trying to import certificates created
with Netscape server. THAT was a fun thing to do.

 Works great so long as you do not need SSL. Been running it for almost 3
 years without a problem.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Whalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:53 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: cf and apache

 How much experience do people have with CF and Apache? Anything to be
aware
 of if switching from IIS. We are just about to buy a new box and with all
 these nightmares people are having with nimba etc thought it might be a
good
 idea.

 

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RE: cf and apache

2001-09-21 Thread Justin Greene

Works great so long as you do not need SSL. Been running it for almost 3
years without a problem.

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Subject: cf and apache

How much experience do people have with CF and Apache? Anything to be aware
of if switching from IIS. We are just about to buy a new box and with all
these nightmares people are having with nimba etc thought it might be a good
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RE: cf and apache

2001-09-21 Thread Justin Greene

The most recent win32 release (1.3.20) is considered initial release quality
and it works great.  Never a problem.

Justin

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Apache does not officialy support Apache Web Server on windows. 
Apache was designed for Unix from the ground up, it is just
incredibly portable so it made its way to windows. 

Consider it (really good) beta quality software. 

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cf and apache


  I love it, and use it on my development machine.
  Although if memory serves me... there were some problems with 
scalability 
on Windows units.  I can't speak from experience, nor can I point to 
numbers though.


At 02:53 PM 09/21/2001 +0100, you wrote:
How much experience do people have with CF and Apache? Anything 
to be aware
of if switching from IIS. We are just about to buy a new box and with all
these nightmares people are having with nimba etc thought it 
might be a good
idea.

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RE: DNS Question

2001-09-04 Thread Justin Greene

skillpath.com.  IN AYour IP address
www IN AYour IP address

note the . at the end of the first that is not at the end of the second.
Also need to make sure the web server will respond to both.

Justin

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Subject: DNS Question

A little off topic, but can anyone please tell me how in the world you set
up DNS so that the user does not have to enter WWW.  
Instead of www.skillpath.com they can just enter skillpath.com and the name
is resolved.

Thank You,
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RE: case sensitive sql query

2001-08-31 Thread Justin Greene

If I remember correctly, when MS SQL Server is installed one determines
whether the DBs will be case sensitive or case insentitive.  If the former
is selected, you have to cast or convert everything to upper or lower case
when doing compares as 'a' != 'A'.  This  of course forces table scans as
placing any sort of evaluation on the left side of the = prevent the use of
an index and you cannot force an index to be case insensitive (I think you
can do this in Oracle).  I suspect that the reverse is true in the below
example.  If you are casting your varchar as case sensitive, it may not be
able to use the indexes properly.  I am not positive, but it is worth
looking into if the tables are large as it will cause a performance hit.

Justin

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Subject: RE: case sensitive sql query

SQL Queries ARE NOT case sensitive when doing a WHERE that involves a
varchar.  The way to do a Case sensitive WHERE clause depends largely on the
database that you are using.  If you are using SQL Server 7/2000 then it is
quite simple.  It is even more simple if you are using Stored Procedures to
perform this task.  Just use CAST to force your value to binary data and
then compare based on the returned binary data.  CAST(ColumnName AS
VARBINARY(ColumnLength)) = CAST('Test Query' AS VARBINARY(ColumnLength)) in
your WHERE within your Stored Procedure.  Once you have that set, just make
the 'Test Query' string in your Stored Procedure into a @sp_variable and
pass in the value you are searching on.  CAST is preferred over CONVERT.

Alex Santantonio, 
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Subject: Re: case sensitive sql query

SQL SELECT queries ARE  case sensitive.

The problem is in your data -- you're using columnames
from your tables as data. Depending on the database,
this information is stored in auxiliary tables (in
Oracle, it would be in a table like
all_tab_columns), and may be in a case-insensitive
form. For example, in Oracle, if I run

select column_name, table_name from all_tab_columns

then I see that all the column_names and table_names
are all uppercase even though when I created the
tables, I had mixed case for the table and column
names


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 Is there a way to do a case sensitive SELECT query?
 Don't want to make a
 server wide change, just want to specify a single
 query to do a case
 sensitive search.

 SELECT ColumnName
 FROM tableName
 WHERE ColumnName = 'Test Query'

 Want this to do a case sensitive search on the WHERE
 clause.

 Bernd VanSkiver
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RE: Speak Up (WAS: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upg rade)

2001-08-30 Thread Justin Greene

Matt,
I had another conversation with MM yesterday with Dave Emmon (sic?) and I
pointed out that the EAPI for apache was not supported in CF 5 either and
was told that MM considers Win32 apache to be beta software and does not
support beta software, but that they are having a meeting on Friday and he
will bring it up.  I was also told that Win32 apache does not have much of a
user base because of it's beta status and that when 2.0 is out of beta it
will be supported.

I take the lack of support for beta software and the small user base as
positioning statement and an attempt to set expectation.  I would like to
point out (and maybe you can be in the meeting) that the manual does
contains installation instructions for apache and does not say anything
about it being beta and unsupported.

Originally I was annoyed by being told that an EAPI build was not going to
be made for 4.x, that module source for win32 would not be made available
and that I should upgrade to CF 5 to solve my problem.  Now I find that an
upgrade would make no difference and am being told that Apache is actually
considered unsupported beta code.  I do not know what the politics are
behind the lack of support for Win32 apache developers but it seems foolish
from a marketing perspective.

Oh, one more point, EAPI has been available since long before apache 1.3.20,
I just never ran into the issue before as I had not tried to deploy SSL,
which requires it.  Some snippets from the changes file (not the reference
to cold fusion in the first):

Changes with mod_ssl 2.1.8 (11-Jan-1999 to 21-Jan-1999):
But we now to the following: We allow _both_ types of modules to be loaded
by mod_so, but dispatch over the EAPI hooks only when the module magic
cookie indicates EAPI.  This way an Apache+EAPI server can load module
DSOs built with a plain Apache. That's important to allow people for
instance use mod_coldfusion (which is available only as a pre-built
DSO!) or allow the Debian package maintainers to finally build their
Apache package with EAPI without the need to upgrade all other module
packages at the same time.

Changes with mod_ssl 2.4.7 (22-Oct-1999 to 02-Nov-1999)
*) Added a check to mod_so to complain with a warning if one loads
   a plain Apache 1.3 DSO under EAPI (which might work, but can also
   segfault).

Changes with mod_ssl 2.8.0 (14-Oct-2000 to 30-Jan-2001)
*) Upgraded to Apache 1.3.17 as base version.
*) Changed ApacheModuleSSL.dll to mod_ssl.so in Makefile.Win32 to
   make mod_ssl not too broken after Apache 1.3.16's Win32 changes.

Justin

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  That is, indeed, most disturbing.
 
  Hm... Allaire heard us (and listened) when we spoke up before.  Maybe we
  all need to speak up now, to make this work for all of our community,
  not just the few with deeper pockets?

I am just getting on top of this thread, but I want to at least post a note 
and let people know that we are listening. I am going to find out what we 
can do about the issue. We are very committed to ColdFusion and our users.

I can't tell you how often in every meeting I go to, the question comes up, 
how can we support CF better in product  (you pick which one).

My guess, off the top of my head, based on 10 years of experience in 
shrinkwraped software, that the code base for CF4.x was closed and archived 
long before CF5 shipped. It would be really unusual to come out with an 
update for a previous version of a product to make it compatible with a 
server that was not released when the product was. Perhaps there is 
something that we can do though so I will look into that.

I am sorry this is causing frustration here, I should have been on top of 
it a little earlier, but the volume of mail here is quite high and I was 
catching up.

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RE: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade

2001-08-29 Thread Justin Greene

We are looking at this as an option.  I believe the issue (I am not the
programmer, just the interface) is that some type of modules (mod_ssl for
example) must have support compiled into Apache under the standard API and
with EAPI they are supported at runtime.  Using EAPI allows greater
flexibility as new modules can be built and deployed without rebuilding the
whole core.

Justin

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And why can't you just carry on useing the normal API version ?

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Apache, Cold Fusion and EAPI

2001-08-29 Thread Justin Greene

I did some more research to try to get a sense of the timeline and have
found that the EAPI in Apache has been available since at least 1.3.14 (the
docs are a little vague on when it was introduced).  Apache is now on
version 1.3.20.

The specific problem that we are having is that mod_ssl requires EAPI
support and seems to have required after mod_ssl 2.6 (now on 2.8.4).  OpenSA
(an apache based package for Win32) provides support for Apache, Cold Fusion
and mod_ssl but seems to be frozen at Apache 1.3.12/Mod_SSL 2.6.  I suspect
that this is due to the lack of EAPI support for CF being in conflict with
the EAPI requirement on mod_ssl.

CF runs fine with all the current builds of apache using the standard API,
but if one wants to run SSL, then mod_ssl is required and thus EAPI is
required and thus Cold Fusion is using the wrong API (of mod_ssl is using
the wrong API, depending on your point of view).

So the bottom line appears to be that to support SSL on Apache and run Cold
Fusion, you need an EAPI build of the Cold Fusion module, which according to
Macromedia is only going to be available in 5.  I have yet to install 5 to
see if this is true.

Does anyone else run SSL on Apache with Cold Fusion on Win32 and if so, how
did you resolve this issue?

Justin

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RE: Apache, Cold Fusion and EAPI

2001-08-29 Thread Justin Greene

I have been doing this in my development environment for over a month and am
getting warnings in the Apache error log (about the mix) and sporadic blank
pages.  I do not know that the latter is caused by mixing, however, I do not
have the problem in production, which is also 1.3.20, but standard API, not
SSL.  I do not know what the technical issues are with Mixing API's.

Justin

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 required and thus Cold Fusion is using the wrong API (of 
 mod_ssl is using
 the wrong API, depending on your point of view).

Cant you mix and match API and EAPI at the same time ? 

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Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade

2001-08-28 Thread Justin Greene

Hi All,
I just had a very disturbing conversation with Macromedia.  We have been
running CF/Apache on Windows for about 2.5 year now and developing on Cold
Fusion since the 1.5 days (cgi only).  Version 1.3.20 of Apache for Win32
(which has been available for over 6 months) is the first that Apache.org
says is stable (not that there have been problems with the old versions).
It has made available an enhanced API (EAPI) but modules need to be compiled
with EAPI support.  Unfortunately the existing Cold Fusion module for Apache
on Win32 uses the standard API.  I spoke with Macromedia in an effort to get
an EAPI build of the module and was informed that they have no plans to
compile an EAPI version of the module for Cold Fusion 4.x on Windows, but
that it will be supported on Cold Fusion 5 and I should upgrade.
Considering the amount of time Cold Fusion 5 has been out and the installed
4.x base (and the fact that I have a cluster of web servers and this upgrade
is cost prohibitive and unnecessary), this strikes me as a blatant attempt
to force upgrades.  I think that they have been going to Microsoft school.

I now feel that I have no alternative but to investigate alternatives to
Cold Fusion as I no longer have faith that Macromedia has any intention of
providing the type of support it's developer community needs.  A far cry
from the days that Allaire was compiling custom builds of 3.x for me while
we tried to track down threading problems in the Cold Fusion Server service.
This is annoying as we have a lot of code that will need to be re-written,
but it will end up being cheaper in the long run if this is indicative of
how Macromedia is going to respond.

I hope that I am not the only one who is disturbed by this and that
Macromedia will reconsider their position on this.

Disappointed,
Justin Greene

p.s.  Allaire posted a resolution to the EXACT problem for Linux on August
7, 2000 in KB#  16303, however it requires the source for the module which I
was told would not be made available for windows.

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RE: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade

2001-08-28 Thread Justin Greene

Did you actually read this message?  If this is the way they choose to do
business, I will take my business elsewhere.  I am fairly certain that
Apache 1.3.20 was released for Win32 prior to the availability of Cold
Fusion 5, yet allaire did not compile an EAPI module for Cold Fusion 4.x,
and now refuses to do so, nor will they release the source so we can compile
it ourselves, yet they did so for Linux over a year ago.  I have never seen
a firm depreciate a product before the new one is even available.

Justin

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From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia strong arms developers into 5.0 upgrade


This is called business. If you want something you'll have to pay for it.
There is no free lunch.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Justin Greene wrote:

 Hi All,
 I just had a very disturbing conversation with Macromedia.  We have been
 running CF/Apache on Windows for about 2.5 year now and developing on Cold
 Fusion since the 1.5 days (cgi only).  Version 1.3.20 of Apache for Win32
 (which has been available for over 6 months) is the first that Apache.org
 says is stable (not that there have been problems with the old versions).
 It has made available an enhanced API (EAPI) but modules need to be
compiled
 with EAPI support.  Unfortunately the existing Cold Fusion module for
Apache
 on Win32 uses the standard API.  I spoke with Macromedia in an effort to
get
 an EAPI build of the module and was informed that they have no plans to
 compile an EAPI version of the module for Cold Fusion 4.x on Windows, but
 that it will be supported on Cold Fusion 5 and I should upgrade.
 Considering the amount of time Cold Fusion 5 has been out and the
installed
 4.x base (and the fact that I have a cluster of web servers and this
upgrade
 is cost prohibitive and unnecessary), this strikes me as a blatant attempt
 to force upgrades.  I think that they have been going to Microsoft school.
 
 I now feel that I have no alternative but to investigate alternatives to
 Cold Fusion as I no longer have faith that Macromedia has any intention of
 providing the type of support it's developer community needs.  A far cry
 from the days that Allaire was compiling custom builds of 3.x for me while
 we tried to track down threading problems in the Cold Fusion Server
service.
 This is annoying as we have a lot of code that will need to be re-written,
 but it will end up being cheaper in the long run if this is indicative of
 how Macromedia is going to respond.
 
 I hope that I am not the only one who is disturbed by this and that
 Macromedia will reconsider their position on this.
 
 Disappointed,
 Justin Greene
 
 p.s.  Allaire posted a resolution to the EXACT problem for Linux on August
 7, 2000 in KB#  16303, however it requires the source for the module which
I
 was told would not be made available for windows.
 
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RE: Apache 1.3.20 and EAPI requirements? (was: MM strongarms)

2001-08-28 Thread Justin Greene

I do not code in C so this is a little out of my depth, but I believe that
it is just a matter of re-linking to the apache source and recompiling with
the -DEAPI directive.  The actual error from the Apache logs is:

[Sat Aug 18 17:16:59 2001] [warn] Loaded DSO
modules/ApacheModuleColdFusion.dll uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module
might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with -DEAPI)

I understand MM not wanting to support old software, however, CF 5 is
barely out the door (how many people are still running NT 4?) and I am not
ready to make that leap yet.  I am just now making the leap to apache 1.3.20
and it has been out for at least 6 months and I still run NT 4.  I am very
cautious about upgrades to a stable environment.

BTW: Apache/CF has been my choice for development as it can easily be ported
to Linux or Solaris and even will allow me to run a mixed environment should
I need to.

Justin

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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Apache 1.3.20 and EAPI requirements? (was: MM strongarms)

snip
It would just be one module, really. In the current version of CF 4.x for
Windows, there's an API module provided for use with Apache:
\cfusion\bin\ApacheModuleColdFusion.dll. This would need to be rewritten,
recompiled and retested for EAPI. I don't know how difficult it would be,
but it's fairly limited in its scope. For what it's worth, it shouldn't be a
major project to rewrite and rebuild this - and if you decided against doing
it in any case, Macromedia could certainly release the source code for the
Apache API module for Windows (fairly useless by itself, I'd think) and let
someone else do it.

On the other hand, I don't imagine that there are too many Macromedia
customers using Apache on Windows for production sites.

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RE: which web server do you use for CF?

2001-08-24 Thread Justin Greene

Which would you not want to run in production?  Apache runs great in
production.  I just heard that a PHP module for apache was just released,
but have not looked into this (this may NOT be production quality).

Justin

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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 2:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: which web server do you use for CF?

 A little off topic here, but I am wondering about your statement
 concerning PHP/Apache on a win2k machine.

 I was unaware they would run on a windows box as I thought both
 were Linux only apps.

there's a windows version available. I just downloaded the pre-compiled
binary and it installed fine, though
I gather that the Windows version is not one you would want to run in a
production enviroment. The only thing I had
to get used to was that (a) in Win98, the web server won't start
automatically (since it's not a service as it would be in NT/W2K)
and [now, if I could just get CF to only start whenever the Web Server
starts now that would be convenient!] and (b) you have to configure the
server via a text file.   Not too bad, they both seem like small downsides
for the advantage of dumping PWS :)
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RE: Way Slow web pages

2001-08-24 Thread Justin Greene

Make sure to config the SQL client to use TCP/IP not named pipes (especially
if querying from a different machine), and try using SQL security rather
than NT security.  Also what happens when you try to login using query
manager (using the same login the webserver uses) and run the query
manually.  Login slow, query slow, both, neither?  

Justin

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sorry about the very broad question.

but what are some things that could cause a web server to almost be 10times
slower.
web pages that were taking ~3,000ms are up to ~30,000. same with others that
were at ~200ms are at ~2,000.

is seems to be the query/db access time.   it's affecting both Access and
SQL backed web pages.

Access itself seems to be running fine.  but SQL Manager seems to be running
real slow.  takes over 2 mins to just display a list of the tables when a db
is chosen. and then almost 4 mins to display the design table.

I have reviewed the logs, the only listing, but is not consistent is that
the administrator account fails on accessing  \winlogon   Object type:
desktop.  EventID: 560 looks to be trying the access \winlogon once a sec.
but this is not going on all the time. This will happen for about 3 mins
then stop.

the changes to the server I can think of, MS office and SQL 7 have both been
reloaded. This is not an active server,  once this problem gets fixed, it
will be, so work load is not a factor. It is a WINNT 4.0, 1 GB RAM, dual
800mhz CPUs. using CF 5.   
I have tried to turn the different services  off,(CF, WEB, SQL), but this
does not affect the problem.
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RE: OT: buying/leasing SQL

2001-08-10 Thread Justin Greene

SQL7 is also per CPU licensing for the Internet Connector license so there
is no gain here by getting 7 over 2000.  I did inquire with MS a one point
about getting SQL7 rather than 2000 and was told that you can buy 2000 then
call them and Downgrade the license.  You could not, however purchase 7.
They have a pretty large enterprise base running SQL7 (not to mention 6.5)
and I do not imagine that they would get away with dropping it in the too
near future.

Justin

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To the best of my knowledge:

1. is it possible to still buy SQL server 7 somehow?
does the new (per-cpu) pricing apply to this?

You may be able to find a copy somewhere, but keep in mind that M$ is 
likely to disallow SQL 7 licensing at any time, which will mean that 
SQL 7 owners will be forced to upgrade to SQL 2000.

2. is it possible to lease SQL 7/2000 somewhere?

Lease? I presume you can purchase on credit.

3. is it possible to have the rather high price splitted into monthly
payments?

See above.

4. do I have to buy per-cpu license if I use SQL with Coldfusion (IIS)
to server dynamic webpages? can I buy per-seat license for this?

Yes, you must buy a processor license for each CPU with SQL 2000 for 
use on the Internet. Quite a scam. So, if you have say Dual 500 MZ 
processors, you can buy a brand new server with a single 900 MZ or 
higher processor with the money you'll save by buying a single 
processor license. I don't think that applies to SQL 7, but as I 
said, expect M$ to disallow SQL 7 licensing at sometime in the future.
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RE: OT (maybe) : Code Red

2001-08-10 Thread Justin Greene

Anyone know whether the exploit being used by code red could be used to
launch a counter exploit on the infected system that patches the machine
:-).

Justin

-Original Message-
From: webmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT (maybe) : Code Red

I don't know about the rest of you who host web sites, but we're still
getting slammed with Code Red attempts - it's been even worse since the
variant came out on Saturday.

I was wondering if anyone had worked out a way to automatically notify the
site administrators ? 

When we got hit by a site called ezsecurehosting.com I figured it's about
time something got done.

Any suggestions ?

Richard
Y2K Internet Technologies
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RE: Apache 1.3.20

2001-08-03 Thread Justin Greene

Forgot to mention I am running Windows NT.  I do not seem to have the source
for the module.  Will hunt around the Allaire website for it.  Thanks.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Deb Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Apache 1.3.20

The steps to rebuild the module for EAPI are here:
http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=16300Method=Full

Deb

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:12 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Apache 1.3.20
 
 
 Is anyone running CF with Apache 1.3.20?  We have just upgraded and
 everything appears OK but an Apache -S shows the error:
 
 [Wed Aug 01 14:04:07 2001] [warn] Loaded DSO
 modules/ApacheModuleColdFusion.dll
 uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please
 recompile
  it with -DEAPI)
 
 Anyone know if there is a -DEAPI build of the Cold Fusion DLL?
 
 Justin
 
 
 
 

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Apache 1.3.20

2001-08-01 Thread Justin Greene

Is anyone running CF with Apache 1.3.20?  We have just upgraded and
everything appears OK but an Apache -S shows the error:

[Wed Aug 01 14:04:07 2001] [warn] Loaded DSO
modules/ApacheModuleColdFusion.dll
uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please
recompile
 it with -DEAPI)

Anyone know if there is a -DEAPI build of the Cold Fusion DLL?

Justin




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RE: What is the purpose of the \cfusion\mail\undevilr directory?

2001-07-31 Thread Justin Greene

Messages that Cold Fusion is not able to hand off to the smarthost appear
here.  Your smtp server may accept abc and 123 as valid email addresses and
just try to append you domain to the end of them.  Try putting a bad IP
address for the SMTP server and watch the directory fill up.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What is the purpose of the \cfusion\mail\undevilr directory?


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Firstoff, I'm using CF 4.5.1.  I thought that the undevilr folder was
there to catch mail that was either sent back or timed out contacting the
mail server.  Am I wrong?
I tried this tag, which was formatted badly on purpose.

cfmail from=abc to=123 subject=testTest/cfmail

When I execute this tag, a spool file does appear in the \spool directory.
When it is sent, the file dissapears from the \spool directory, but nothing
appears in the \undelivr directory.  No error in the logs, no undelived
email.  Kind odd.

Maybe cfmail dosn't use VRFY when using SMTP.  :/
Any ideas?

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RE: Got the fellow, but....

2001-07-30 Thread Justin Greene

I would take the log file entries and send them in an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  This type of activity is in violation of most ISP's AUP
(Acceptable Use Policy) and many will terminate the users account for doing
this.  Be sure to let them know your GMT offset so that if it is a dialup
user they can look in their dialup logs and figure out who was logged in to
the IP at the time.

You can figure out the isp by looking up the IP at http://www.arin.net in
their whois.  Do not trust simple reverse lookups as they may be spoofed.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Got the fellow, but

I'm doing a pretty intensive watch on my server stastics and log files
in real-time. sometimes I see people who try stupid stuff like:

/winnt/system32/cmd.exe and trying to url hack (with ;drop tables) .

my question is: when I'm seeing the guy's IP address in the stas server
or log files, and the guy is still causing problem (i,e - trying to hack)
what can I do to him? can I throw him, and only him away?
will adding him to the banned IP in IIS helps immediatly?

any other alternatives?

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RE: Backing up large database

2001-07-26 Thread Justin Greene

Also bear in mind that database size also includes indexes and enough of
them can turn a fairly small set of data into a large database file.  There
is a procedure to break down the amount of space being used by all tables,
indexes etc.  May be worth looking at.

Justin

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From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Backing up large database

On 7/25/01, Dave Watts penned:
   Man, what do you have in that database? LOL I've got databases on my
  SQL Server that aren't HUGE, but they do have some rather large
  tables (30 fields or so) with several thousand records in them and
  they're only 11-12 MB. Do you have the database options set to
  Auto-Shrink?

In enterprise database terms, several thousand records is a very small
amount.

I understand that, but 1.2 GB seems like a pretty large database. 
Yes, I know they can get to be terabtyes. :) I just thought maybe he 
wasn't shrinking it. Just something for him to look at.
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RE: Backing up large database

2001-07-25 Thread Justin Greene

A few thoughts

1. .zip does have a file size and file count limit.  Sound like you are
hitting the former.  I understand the RAR does not have this limitation, but
have not worked with it.

2. Perhaps you can download the file using a protocol that compresses
dynamically (like zmodem) rather than trying to create a single large file
and downloading it.  PCAnywhere does compress during download.  Try
downloading without zipping first, it may take a similar amount of time

3. There are product that will split a file into smaller files.  Perhaps
split the db file in half before zipping and then re-combine after
un-zipping.

You should be able to automate all of this, including the download itself.

Justin

p.s. We have a tape library at our remote location and have to physically
get backups with a laptop if we need then (20+ GIG of data).


-Original Message-
From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Backing up large database

Just ran into a problem with my backup system
my server is co-located at an ISP, so I have to backup over the
internet..
  I have an exact copy of the website on my local server, which is backed 
up to CDs. I am the only person who writes code for this server..  so I 
know I have all of the source code and graphic files backed up already, so 
I never have to back them up from the server.

The only thing that changes on the webserver is the database, stored in SQL 
server.  I has an automated task in SQL server back up the data every night 
to a file, then used a CF scheduled task to use CF_ZIP to zip the backup 
file up and every night before I go to sleep, I log in with PC anywhere and 
download it to my home computer and back it up over my home network and 
once a week to CDs.

Worked fine until today. It seems the data file got too large to zip.  Does 
CF_ZIP have a size limit? The file is 2.1 gigs unzipped (200 megs zipped - 
goes very fast with my cable modem:).  I have over 20 gigs of free hard 
disk space on the server.  Is there any work-around, or do I have to break 
the database up into sections and do the parts individually?  How do you 
handle back-up from remote servers?

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RE: SPAM - how can I stop this - any ideas?

2001-07-20 Thread Justin Greene

This header does not look complete to me.  Is 216.9.67.204 your system?  If
not then where is the Received: line for your system.  You need to go ARIN
(http://www.arin.net) and lookup The IP addresses in the header, not the
domain names (which can be easily spoofed).  The most-likely-to-be-real is
the one from which your mail server received the message.  After that, they
can be forged.  Find who owns the network block and notify their abuse
department (Abuse@).  Include the message you received and the FULL headers.

Justin

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RE: CF trojen? BackdoorJY.sv

2001-07-19 Thread Justin Greene

You may also want to look into a piece of software called tripwire
(http://www.tripwire.com).  It will create a checksum for all the files on
your system and do a variety of things if something changes.  I have not
implemented it yet (NT4 environment) but have an associate (Linux) that
swears by it (not because of it).  It may not stop a hack, but it should
allow you to catch it before too much damage can be done.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF trojen? BackdoorJY.sv


 Everyone running IIS should look at this:
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/Release.asp?ReleaseID=24168
 
 This has kept us pretty much out of the eye of trouble for quite some
 time.  Hackers managed to get in almost daily, prior to us recreating
 our systems, adding W2K SP2, and then running this each hour, to make
 sure we were up-to-date.  Great free tool.

While HFCheck is a nice tool, there are two points worth mentioning.

1. It only works with IIS 5 (on Win2K).

2. Most of the IIS hotfixes patch functionality that isn't even used by the
vast majority of IIS sites: things like Index Server, IIS-based password
changing, IIS-based printing, and so forth. Rather than relying on Microsoft
patches, you'll get better mileage out of properly configuring your servers
up front. Here's a little secret of mine. I don't bother installing most of
the IIS patches when they come out. I don't have to, because they patch
things that I've already disabled or removed. I can wait until everyone else
has regression-tested the patch on their production web servers.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: What is best way to write this report?

2001-07-18 Thread Justin Greene

Write your query to return:

Month (as number), Day (as number), other data
order by Day, Month

Then loop through the result and each time the month is  the last 
month
start a new row.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Paul Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 4:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What is best way to write this report?


I've got a query that returns a date and a sales figures for the 
previous
365 days. I need to write this information to a report in the format 
of:
Jan 1 Feb 1 Mar 1 Apr 1 May 1 ...
Jan 2 Feb 2 Mar 2 Apr 2 May 2 ...
Jan 3 Feb 3 Mar 3 Apr 3 May 3 ...
Jan 4 Feb 4 Mar 4 Apr 4 May 4 ...
On to the end of the days in the month.
From an architectural stand point, what is the best way to do this? 

Paul

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RE: Imposing an ad hoc sort order on a SQL query

2001-07-13 Thread Justin Greene

If this is SQL server should be able to accomplish it something like this...


CREATE PROCEDURE adhocorder
@position1 as varchar(25),
@position2 as varchar(25),
@position3 as varchar(25),
@position4 as varchar(25)
AS
SELECT AdHocOrder = CASE bp.Description
   WHEN @position1 THEN 1
   WHEN @position2 THEN 2
   WHEN @position3 THEN 3
   WHEN @position4 THEN 4
   ELSE 5
   END,
  bp.description,
  m.membername
FROMmembers m,
boardposition bp,
board b
WHERE m.memberid = b.memberid
AND   bp.boardpositionid = b.boardpositionid
ORDER BY adhocorder

Somthing like this should allow yuo to pass in varchars for positions 1-4
indicating which should appear where.

Justin


-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Imposing an ad hoc sort order on a SQL query


Thanks, but that's what I was trying avoid - storing the sort order within
the table.  Even though it's flexible enough to be updated, I might have
another page and query (perhaps pulling just a subset of the board members)
where I want to use a different ordering.

But now that I think about it, doing this so-called ad hoc sort in the way I
was proposing may not be the smartest idea, since it's not data driven.  It
would require me to hardcode the board position descriptions into the
template's SQL code.  I guess I'll do it the way you've described and then
add additional sort order fields as needed by the project.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Imposing an ad hoc sort order on a SQL query


 I have had to do this in the past... I just added a USERSORT field and
 put numeric fields in it for display order (ie: PRESIDENT= 1
 VICEPRESIDENT=2, etc.)

 then I just create a forms based interface that lets you mod the
 numbers as need be...

 so you do a SORT BY USERSORT ASC in my example...

 -paris
 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
 [connecting people, places and things]


 -Original Message-
 From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 11:39:25 -0600
 Subject: Imposing an ad hoc sort order on a SQL query

  Say I've got three tables for the members of an organization and its
  Board
  of Directors.  Let's say there are approximately ten board positions.
   I
  want to be able to do a query and have an ad hoc ordering of the
  positions
  for display on a page.  For example:
 
  1. President - John Doe
  2. Vice President - Jane Jones
  3. Secretary - Bob Smith
  4. Treasurer - Neil Jones
  etc.
 
  Tables:
 
  Members
  
  MemberID
  Name
 
  BoardPositions
  -
  BoardPositionID
  Description
 
  Board
  -
  BoardID
  MemberID
  BoardPositionID
 
 
  I could add a 'sortorder' field to the Board table, but I don't think
  this
  should be in the data.  Rather, I'd like to be able to specify the
  order
  when I do the query in my CF template.  Is there any means in SQL to
  do
  something like:
 
  SELECT Members.Name, BoardPositions.Description
  FROM Board b, BoardPositions p, Members m
  WHERE b.MemberID = m.MemberID
AND b.BoardPositionsID = p.BoardPositionsID
  ORDER BY ('President','Vice President', ...)
 
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
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