Re: HomeSite
I don't use it much but dreamweaver (at least the CS5 version anyway) seems to have decent code editing abilities -- it might make some sense to you to use that considering it's an Adobe product. After using homesite for many years myself, I eventually gave up on it, and aside from using pspad with some plugins, eventually settled on Eclipse. Eclipse ... can be sluggish, even after doing a lot of tweaks to speed it up, but it does do almost everything you'd want and a lot of folk across several disciplines use it. So I'd probably suggest giving it a try for a while. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Richard Colman col...@uci.edu wrote: Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and do like it. I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original install disks are long gone. Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase? TNX, signed ... the dinosaur ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352873 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HomeSite
I was also supplied with dreamweaver at one point so if you have any old DW CDs floating around you might find it on there. On 8 October 2012 01:22, Bobby bo...@acoderslife.com wrote: I believe it was in the CFWACK for version 4.5 or 5. Maybe you have that book or know someone who does? On 10/7/12 10:27 AM, Richard Colman col...@uci.edu wrote: Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and do like it. I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original install disks are long gone. Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase? TNX, signed ... the dinosaur ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352869 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HomeSite
I believe it was in the CFWACK for version 4.5 or 5. Maybe you have that book or know someone who does? On 10/7/12 10:27 AM, Richard Colman col...@uci.edu wrote: Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and do like it. I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original install disks are long gone. Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase? TNX, signed ... the dinosaur ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352866 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. I agree 100% with this. And it's not hating on CF. It's just using CF's stronger attributes (server side computing) and using other tools for client-side. It is very tempting anytime someone asks a question about cfform or cflayout to advise someone to switch to an alternative method, but I hold my tongue. To each their own. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Well, it's installed. I've not done anything but open it up, but I gotta say, it opens a hell of a lot faster than DW CS4 ever did. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
FWIW, the other Eclipse based IDE for CF, CFEclipse runs on Linux. On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345307 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, the other Eclipse based IDE for CF, CFEclipse runs on Linux. Yes, and if, like me, you regularly switch between a big Mac desktop and a small Linux netbook, it becomes very clear, very quickly just how much more CFBuilder brings to the table (than CFEclipse) and why CFBuilder is worth every penny of its $299 sticker price. No disrespect to CFEclipse - it's a great open source project and I used it a lot years ago and I use it heavily today when I'm on my netbook - but it is a pale shadow next to CFBuilder's full feature set. I can't comment on how the free Express edition of CFBuilder compares tho'... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345316 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. It's only a matter of time. I am slowly migrating to the mac. When I am using my mac, I use Dreamweaver CS 5. Compared to the older versions of DW, it's not bad at all. I like it better than CFEclipse. And as you said, it does a nice job with Javascript (very nice with the continuing growth of jQuery). I've already started customizing the tags in DW. I had so many macros and customizations that made Homesite my tool of choice. After enough customization, DW will probably be a more than capable replacement. Now, if they would only implement tabs as spaces. J ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it. If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk of them separating in transit. Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes had been invented back then? :P Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and not be clumsy. ;) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Peter Boughton bought...@gmail.com wrote: After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it. If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk of them separating in transit. Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes had been invented back then? :P Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and not be clumsy. ;) I always had them in boxes. You didn't want to tie them up or use too many rubber bands or sometimes they wouldn't go through the readers properly. Paper tape from the teletypes were similarly sensitive at times, but much more forgiving than cards. I still have a paper tape reader in my office in case there is something in our regulatory archive on paper tape. As a side note, the paper used for cards was really nice card stock. Used cards and the dots from the paper tape punch offered incredible opportunities for pranks. You never left your windows cracked in the Summer if there was a prankster in your office. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-austin/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
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Re: Homesite 5.5
Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this flavour of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. While DW does have an SVN integration, I've never been able to get it to work adequately. I either use an Eclipse PLugin like subversion or TortoiseSVN ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\ I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this flavour of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Hmmm. The Visual jQuery view _loaded_, but doesn't actually do anything. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\ I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this flavour of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I don't have time to play with this now. But it looks like there is a way to manually update the Visual JQuery builder to 1.4.2 - If I understand how CFBuilder was put together, the JQuery view came as part of the Aptana features. https://github.com/andreberg/Aptana-Studio-2-jQuery1.4.2-Plugin Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\ I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this flavour of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it. If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk of them separating in transit. Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes had been invented back then? :P Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and not be clumsy. ;) I seem to remember that when I asked for one the lab assistant said, Boxes?!?! Boxex!?! We don't need no stinkin' boxes!. That's what I got for selecting a very underfunded public university. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Not old just started early. And that cheap university didn't want to update the PDP system for the psych department. That said, you may want to check out Ray Camden's blog. He has a lot of entries on developing for mobile apps. See http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/Mobile Also Ben Nadel may have some blog posts about it. Ok, Ok, all you old people have your memories while me as a 70 year old upstart can only go back to my C-64 days, which seems only last week ;) I REALLY like when you guys get discussing old school vs new school. I do have a quick question tho: What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my work? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic Gr ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I thinks perhaps people have bad memories of DW or think of it as a web designers tool On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic Gr ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE. As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to play on so it's an issue left long in the dust. It was my incentive to switch my IDE, nothing more. I have DW CS4 installed, but since I offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the I ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE. -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email : r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com Twitter : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with Android news: http://www.android ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
+420 for dw cs5 nothing compares Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic Gr ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I always used TortoiseSVN anyway, but i see DW does include SVN now. The only reason I don;t use it is that you get conflicts if you try to use 2 tools to manage SVN you end up having problems if they don;t both support the same version. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Tony Weeg tonyw...@gmail.com wrote: +420 for dw cs5 nothing compares Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic Gr ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew My first coding job was putting patch cords on a panel to control an ancient PDP. Gives you a real good appreciation of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Ditto. Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover, using 9000+ key punch cards. IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects. In second year when I was taking Advanced Design and Data Analysis, I did a study that ended up having over 300 subjects. Each one filled in a 200 item questionnaire. Aside from the JCL and the stats program, the data cards took 6 cards (one per item response). After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Not that it's even close, but I remember hitting a line limit when writing Pascal programs on my Apple 2e. I was devastated. :) On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Ditto. Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover, using 9000+ key punch cards. IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects. In second year when I was taking Advanced Design and Data Analysis, I did a study that ended up having over 300 subjects. Each one filled in a 200 item questionnaire. Aside from the JCL and the stats program, the data cards took 6 cards (one per item response). After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email : r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com Twitter : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with Android news: http://www.androidga ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Well, I guess since I'm a full time daytime dev again (after a 5 year stint as a full time CF server admin... I didn't change by choice), and I'm supposed to have access to the entire Adobe creative suite, I suppose it's time to give it a whirl again. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I remember using a book for logarithms, and a slide rule, beat that, lol Thank goodness the ZX81 came along ;) Jenny -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 June 2011 17:44 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 Not that it's even close, but I remember hitting a line limit when writing Pascal programs on my Apple 2e. I was devastated. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Here is an Adobe page about DW and SVN. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the I ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
The SVN client 1.6 will work with older 1.4.x SVN servers. But the reverse is not true. Also, if you have two SVN clients on your desktop, you should make sure they are the same version. If a repo was checked out with a 1.6.x client you cannot use a 1.4.x client. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE. -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email: r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com Twitter : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with Android news: http://www.android ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
ah the old C64, that was my favourite 6502 Assembler was awesome. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Here is an Adobe page about DW and SVN. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the I ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote: I do have a quick question tho: What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my work? If we ignore some of the client side capabilities of CF, like the Ajax-ui stuff, then the answer is - of course. CF generates stuff. That can HTML. XML. JSON. RayHTML, whatever. Therefore it isn't that CF is supported on a smartphone it's that CF can output anything you want As for emulators - you can emulate Android phones via the free Android SDK on any platform. For IOS, unfortunately, you have to have a Mac if you want the official emulator. But you can always get by with Safari and see how it looks. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. Eric -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote: I do have a quick question tho: What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my work? If we ignore some of the client side capabilities of CF, like the Ajax-ui stuff, then the answer is - of course. CF generates stuff. That can HTML. XML. JSON. RayHTML, whatever. Therefore it isn't that CF is supported on a smartphone it's that CF can output anything you want As for emulators - you can emulate Android phones via the free Android SDK on any platform. For IOS, unfortunately, you have to have a Mac if you want the official emulator. But you can always get by with Safari and see how it looks. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
That's what I thought, but wanted to verify. Not very smart on Adobe's part since Eclipse is on *nix and mac... Thanks! Eric -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
It's not the CFBuilder's team's fault really. The licensing software adobe uses is win/mac only. Linux is still a very small market still. I am surprised that Adobe supported Mac for so many years (when it was like 3% of the market) before the last few year's boom. MD Sent from one of my many iDevices On 12 Jun 2011, at 21:21, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: That's what I thought, but wanted to verify. Not very smart on Adobe's part since Eclipse is on *nix and mac... Thanks! Eric -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Really now? Aptana is a fantastic editor for JS. Intrigued, I gave DW 5.5 a test spin and it's JS/jjQuery support is indeed VERY impressive. Thanx for the heads up. BTW in order to try it out I had to DL the entire Master Collection. All five GIGs of it. There is no stand alone DW 5.5 DL (that I could find at least) on the Adobe Site. G! On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, when folks say UI development, also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic Gr ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? Yes, DW finally got SVN after years and years of people begging for version control support. Back in the DW2 days, the Macromedia Web Team were begging for CVS support internally! So eventually DW gets SVN support, just about the time most everyone begins to switch to git... we'll see whether it ever gets git support :( As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to play on so it's an issue left long in the dust. I I find DW CS4 runs OK on my i7 (iMac) but it's still a lot slower than I would expect on such a powerful machine. Does DW CS5.5 have improved performance, Ray? I have DW CS4 installed, but since I offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it. Yeah, that's kinda my position in my work... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Probably whenever whatever will replace GIT starts to become popular LOL -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 06:37 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? Yes, DW finally got SVN after years and years of people begging for version control support. Back in the DW2 days, the Macromedia Web Team were begging for CVS support internally! So eventually DW gets SVN support, just about the time most everyone begins to switch to git... we'll see whether it ever gets git support :( As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to play on so it's an issue left long in the dust. I I find DW CS4 runs OK on my i7 (iMac) but it's still a lot slower than I would expect on such a powerful machine. Does DW CS5.5 have improved performance, Ray? I have DW CS4 installed, but since I offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it. Yeah, that's kinda my position in my work... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
As with any software it is hard to move away from something you like and are used to. It took me ages to move away from homesite and get used to cfeclipse, you do have to force yourself NOT to use homesite and invest some time learning how to use the IDE properly. I did still keep homesite around for quick edits though as it was much quicker to double click files and have them open in homesite. Although now I mainly just use Dreamweaver. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345159 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: As with any software it is hard to move away from something you like and are used to. It took me ages to move away from homesite and get used to cfeclipse, you do have to force yourself NOT to use homesite and invest some time learning how to use the IDE properly. I did still keep homesite around for quick edits though as it was much quicker to double click files and have them open in homesite. Although now I mainly just use Dreamweaver. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345160 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I 3 Homesite! :) On 6/10/2011 7:07 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: Hello All, I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore from Macromedia. Thanks, Greg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345161 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345162 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram together. G! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Dammit, I hate you retro guys... I know your code is faster but the writing code via static electricity design pattern always trumps mine. Dammit! Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram together. G! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: Dammit, I hate you retro guys... I know your code is faster but the writing code via static electricity design pattern always trumps mine. Dammit! Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram together. G! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: Hello All, I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore from Macromedia. Thanks, Greg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
The only reason I bust out Dreamweaver is for making tables and UI stuff. For everything else, there's CFEclipse, Subclipse, Apatana. I have yet to find a plugin for Eclipse that does split dev/UI like Dreamweaver can. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog On 6/11/2011 11:08 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Russ Michaelsr...@michaels.me.uk wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Sticks of RAM? Wow that's new tech! My RAM come on individual IC Chips. I need 8 to get to 64K. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram together. G! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
That's so cool! It's like an Easter egg! Imagine finding a copy of Civ I on your Civ V disk. A copy of Win 3.1 on Win 7 disk. More software companies should do this! On Jun 11, 2011 2:45 PM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: Hello All, I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore from Macromedia. Thanks, Greg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I have Homesite+ if that helps On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: Hello All, I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore from Macromedia. Thanks, Greg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the ides comparison posts like already took place before on this community site, just wanted to give my opinion. The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++) Stéphane Vantroyen To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
There is a lengthy thread on one of the CF LinkedIn groups polling people on what they're using and CFB is well-represented. (I use CFB 2.) On Jun 11, 2011 3:01 PM, Stephane Vantroyen s...@emakina.com wrote: Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the ides comparison posts like already took place before on this community site, just wanted to give my opinion. The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++) Stéphane Vantroyen To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345173 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Anyone wanting to know more about the Hidden Gems in CFBuilder should watch this preso by Charlie Arehart. http://experts.adobeconnect.com/p51vmyerxvy/?launcher=falsefcsContent=truepbMode=normal I also miss HomeSite - I started using it back in the 1.5 days (1996) and purchased it from Nick himself. Back then the easter eggs in HS were fun little games and even one that let us shoot Green Dog Logos. Ah, the good o'l days. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Stephane Vantroyen wrote: Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the ides comparison posts like already took place before on this community site, just wanted to give my opinion. The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++) Stéphane Vantroyen To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345174 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Sadly, I'm so old I've actually done that, lol -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 11 June 2011 18:46 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345175 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I love how this thread is comparing HomeSite to punch cards and other old fashioned computing technologies. In one sense, it's amazing that HomeSite had the staying power that it did. Kudos to the original Delphi developers for creating such a great platform. The only problem is that they did it in the 1990's. 15 years in computing, 15 years on the internet, we're talking about ancient history. I switched to Eclipse early on. I found myself at a company that had questionable licensing ethics, so when I started to hear about Eclipse, I made the switch as soon as I could and haven't missed the annoyances of HS+ one bit. It turned out great for me, I could tell there was a lot of promise in the platform, so now (7 years later?) it seems like I picked a winner. These days I use a combination of CFEclipse and Notepad++, both FOSS. Notepad++ is a great pick-up-and-edit tool. At home I have been using CF Builder 2, it's good. It's really good. I also have IntelliJ IDEA, which is surprisingly advanced for CFML development. In summary, and bringing it back to the thread, try new tools, they are better. They do more things. Force yourself to try it for a couple weeks and see if you can be as efficient at it. nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Sticks of RAM? Wow that's new tech! My RAM come on individual IC Chips. I need 8 to get to 64K. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram together. G! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an Eclipse plugin!! As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds. Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Oh the days of making expensive mistakes. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 3:46 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an actual CFML editor. More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an Eclipse plugin!! As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds. Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I don't think you understand the bigger picture I put forward there. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 6:32 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an actual CFML editor. More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345182 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
The only real issue I have with DW is that it can't handle big files well and it is a serious system resource hog. It actually uses more CPU when it is minimised and not in use. You do need a pretty decent system to use it comfortably. Other than that it is a perfectly competent CFML editor with insight, auto complete, cfc generation, synchronization with remote servers, svn, and many other features that HS or CFE doesn't have. Russ On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an actual CFML editor. More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an Eclipse plugin!! As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds. Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors I would argue that is not exactly the case. ColdFusion Builder is a pure CFML IDE, plain and simple. Dreamweaver, on the other hand, is capable of editing CF code, but that is just one of the many things that it does. It's hardly a waste of money for them to maintain both products as they have vastly different capabilities, purposes, and target audiences. It's like saying maintaining basketball and baseball at the same time is a waste (well, I suppose for some people that argument could go either way). They both involve players and a ball, but are vastly different games. Builder and Dreamweaver each have their strong points depending on the type of work you're doing. I'd argue that Dreamweaver is made more for front-end developers who happen to need to edit CF code from time to time (or PHP, or ASP, or whatever), while Builder is meant for those of us almost exclusively in the trenches with CF. Personally, I'm glad there are different products which each solve specific needs. -Justin Scott ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Or make Eclipse a Dreamweaver plugin? I probably need to look at Eclipse again, but on my last look at it, I would seriously miss all of the UI advantages of Dreamweaver. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: 12 June 2011 01:11 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an Eclipse plugin!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Ditto. Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover, using 9000+ key punch cards. IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Sadly, I'm so old I've actually done that, lol -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: I probably need to look at Eclipse again, but on my last look at it, I would seriously miss all of the UI advantages of Dreamweaver. If you do UI work, Dreamweaver is kickass and that's what you should use. If you do server-side work, CFBuilder is kickass and that's what you should use. I have CS4 and use DW and FW for UI stuff (for the HTML sites I maintain and the only bit of PHP). They're great tools for what they do. If I didn't already have CS4, I'd spend the $700 to buy DW/FW for the amount I use them. I bought CFB1 the moment it came out and I upgraded to CFB2 a few days after that came out. Definitely worth the $300 (or $410 that I've paid for both versions). As for Adobe supporting two CFML IDEs, that's not the case. The DW team is completely separate and doesn't really have to do anything to support CFML these days. They get an updated dictionary for each new CF release and that's about it. The CF team support CFB so it's tightly coupled to the CF server - which is how it should be. Adobe has one CFML IDE and it's extremely good. Adobe also has an extremely good HTML/CSS/JS editor - that just happens to have some CFML support. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com wrote: Hello All, I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore from Macromedia. Thanks, Greg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345157 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345158 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
That would be a pain. I've only ever had that problem over RDS, and that was even before Windows 7. When working on actual local / mapped drives, HomeSite's not giving me that trouble at all. Wonder what the difference is? On 11/15/2010 6:31 PM, Michael Grant wrote: It's when you are creating a new file it kicks back an error. You have to instead create the file first then fill it with content and save. It's just a PITA more than anything else. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Jason Fisherja...@wanax.com wrote: Works fine for me, on Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium. I still use HomeSite for most of my editing. What problem is it giving you when you try to save? On 11/15/2010 11:53 AM, Rick Colman wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
IntelliJ IDEA with the CFML plugin, which I love, does create projects (and makes them very useful, as a search scope for instance), but it also lets you open any file, including as a right-click or default action for selected file types. If you *never* work on projects, I think you might still want to create an empty one as a base, then open whatever you want. It's got warts, and no RDS (has FTP though), but I've never been happier. Dave On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects btw. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite on Windows 7
Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? Yes, I have it working. Two things to note on set-up to get Homesite to run correctly on Windows 7. Go to the setting and change them to: 1) Run in XP compatability mode, and 2) Run as Administrator (this is only necessary if you are saving files to the WWW root directories). It's a protected directory on Windows 7. Hope that helps... Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339280 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
This is how I have mine set up and I still can't create a new file (CTRL+N) and then save it to an FTP folder (CTRL+S). I get an error. I don't get the error saving locally though. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? Yes, I have it working. Two things to note on set-up to get Homesite to run correctly on Windows 7. Go to the setting and change them to: 1) Run in XP compatability mode, and 2) Run as Administrator (this is only necessary if you are saving files to the WWW root directories). It's a protected directory on Windows 7. Hope that helps... Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
I am having the same problem trying to save as on my web directories on a remote server (CrystalTech). Could it be another dumb Vista/Windows 7 security hack? On 11/16/2010 8:04 AM, Michael Grant wrote: This is how I have mine set up and I still can't create a new file (CTRL+N) and then save it to an FTP folder (CTRL+S). I get an error. I don't get the error saving locally though. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? Yes, I have it working. Two things to note on set-up to get Homesite to run correctly on Windows 7. Go to the setting and change them to: 1) Run in XP compatability mode, and 2) Run as Administrator (this is only necessary if you are saving files to the WWW root directories). It's a protected directory on Windows 7. Hope that helps... Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be. Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
OK, so that problem I *do* have, but I'm pretty sure I ran into that even before I moved to Windows 7. I have no troubles saving locally, but saving New directly over RDS (or FTP) usually errors. Very annoying, I agree. From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:05 AM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Homesite on Windows 7 This is how I have mine set up and I still can't create a new file (CTRL+N) and then save it to an FTP folder (CTRL+S). I get an error. I don't get the error saving locally though. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? Yes, I have it working. Two things to note on set-up to get Homesite to run correctly on Windows 7. Go to the setting and change them to: 1) Run in XP compatability mode, and 2) Run as Administrator (this is only necessary if you are saving files to the WWW root directories). It's a protected directory on Windows 7. Hope that helps... Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
You do know that Aptana is incorporated into CFBuilder. That would give you all the CF features missing from Aptana. (although the combo of CFEclipse and Aptana gives you many of CFBuilder's features). I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
You do know that Aptana is incorporated into CFBuilder. That would give you all the CF features missing from Aptana. Including support for for vtm tag definitions? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339286 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
Yeah, it's the price of Aptana that sold me. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: You do know that Aptana is incorporated into CFBuilder. That would give you all the CF features missing from Aptana. (although the combo of CFEclipse and Aptana gives you many of CFBuilder's features). I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339288 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
Why do modern editors put the files and folders in the same window as a bit tree... Interesting question. I did not notice that until you mentioned it. But I prefer that as well. Actually the File Explorer View in the Adobe CF 8 Eclipse extensions behaves that way and allows you to browse and work on files with out using projects. I am use that feature more and more these days Projects can be a total PITA as times. I am constantly having to refresh projects since other ppl work on files in projects. And our intranet is huge so refreshing and building projects can take forever. G! On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Why do modern editors put the files and folders in the same window as a bit tree... it's very challenging to work with complex file organizations. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite on Windows 7 cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects btw. It took me ages to drag myself away from homesite to cfeclipse, and I did miss some features, but I think cfbuilder pretty much has it all now. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339292 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite Comment Command
I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the !--- comment command gives you this: !--- --- Where can I change that to output: !-- -- as W3C doesn't validate with the 3 dashes? You Homesite is probably set-up as a CF Editor and that is a CF comment. If it's used on a CF page the comment won't be output in the HTML, thus no W3C problem. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite Comment Command (please read before replying)
I am requesting a way, any way to possibly create a keyboard shortcut within Homesite to let me create a HTML comment in my pages. On Homesite+ 5.5, go to the Options menu, then Customize, then the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. There should be an option on the list for HTML Comment. On mine it is Shift+Ctrl+M but I don't recall if that is the default setting or not. You can assign it whatever key combination you like. Pressing the shortcut without any code selected will insert a comment with the cursor in the middle. Selecting code and pressing the shortcut will wrap the selection with the comment. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite Comment Command (please read before replying)
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Greg On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.comwrote: I am requesting a way, any way to possibly create a keyboard shortcut within Homesite to let me create a HTML comment in my pages. On Homesite+ 5.5, go to the Options menu, then Customize, then the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. There should be an option on the list for HTML Comment. On mine it is Shift+Ctrl+M but I don't recall if that is the default setting or not. You can assign it whatever key combination you like. Pressing the shortcut without any code selected will insert a comment with the cursor in the middle. Selecting code and pressing the shortcut will wrap the selection with the comment. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects btw. It took me ages to drag myself away from homesite to cfeclipse, and I did miss some features, but I think cfbuilder pretty much has it all now. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
Works fine for me, on Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium. I still use HomeSite for most of my editing. What problem is it giving you when you try to save? On 11/15/2010 11:53 AM, Rick Colman wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
It's when you are creating a new file it kicks back an error. You have to instead create the file first then fill it with content and save. It's just a PITA more than anything else. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Jason Fisher ja...@wanax.com wrote: Works fine for me, on Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium. I still use HomeSite for most of my editing. What problem is it giving you when you try to save? On 11/15/2010 11:53 AM, Rick Colman wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
IIRC, the CF8 Extensions for Eclipse comes with a File Explorer view. Also Aptana (and CFB) has a File Explorer. CF8 Extensions (and CFB) also provides RDS support for databases, files and a Service browser . The CF8 Extensions are a bit dodgy in the database view. When you click on a database it will say connecting to server and does nothing. To get around that you have to (or at least I have to) right click Refresh Active RDS server to get it to work. http://download.macromedia.com/pub/coldfusion/8/eclipseextensions/CF801-Extensions-for-Eclipse.zip I was in the same boat, I dreaded not being able to use CFS. But after I got used to Eclipse I found that I really liked it. HTH G! On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339255 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite on Windows 7
Why do modern editors put the files and folders in the same window as a bit tree... it's very challenging to work with complex file organizations. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite on Windows 7 cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects btw. It took me ages to drag myself away from homesite to cfeclipse, and I did miss some features, but I think cfbuilder pretty much has it all now. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite on Windows 7
I agree 100%. That's one thing I loved about CFStu/Homesite. The folder pane and the file pane. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Why do modern editors put the files and folders in the same window as a bit tree... it's very challenging to work with complex file organizations. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite on Windows 7 cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects btw. It took me ages to drag myself away from homesite to cfeclipse, and I did miss some features, but I think cfbuilder pretty much has it all now. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite on Windows 7
It's a better UI design... why was it abandoned I wonder... not just adobe or MM either. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:32 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite on Windows 7 I agree 100%. That's one thing I loved about CFStu/Homesite. The folder pane and the file pane. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Why do modern editors put the files and folders in the same window as a bit tree... it's very challenging to work with complex file organizations. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite on Windows 7 cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects btw. It took me ages to drag myself away from homesite to cfeclipse, and I did miss some features, but I think cfbuilder pretty much has it all now. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I never did. I have always used and loved homesite (CFStudio) and was horrified when I had to switch. However since my switch to Aptana about three months ago I've really grown to like it. It's got a lot of homesite-like features and is just an all-round good editor in my opinion. No RDS tab, but thems the brakes I guess. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I STILL like homesite because it is file based - NOT projects. I don't do projects ... Anyways, did anyone ever solve the problem where HomeSite will not do a save as in Windows 7? I know there is a work around (file - create here - copy paste - save) but it is still a pain. TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite Comment Command
Terry, !--- This is a ColdFusion Comment --- !-- This is a HTML comment -- If you put an HTML comment around CFML it will do nothing and the code will still execute. CFML comments do not appear in the source code so any HTML validation will not see it, if you are running the validation on the CFML source then just ignore the comments. Russ -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2010 22:21 To: cf-talk Subject: Homesite Comment Command I don't know if this is OT or not. I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the !--- comment command gives you this: !--- --- Where can I change that to output: !-- -- as W3C doesn't validate with the 3 dashes? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite Comment Command
Russ thanks for answering. I guess I wasn't specific enough. Is there a keyboard shortcut command to do the html comment in Homesite? I use Coldfusion in my Site Admin for my clients to design their pages and then When they update it writes all the pages to plain html for SEO as well as speed. If there is a command it would save me a bunch of time programming instead of Deleting the extra dashes by hand. Terry -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite Comment Command Terry, !--- This is a ColdFusion Comment --- !-- This is a HTML comment -- If you put an HTML comment around CFML it will do nothing and the code will still execute. CFML comments do not appear in the source code so any HTML validation will not see it, if you are running the validation on the CFML source then just ignore the comments. Russ -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2010 22:21 To: cf-talk Subject: Homesite Comment Command I don't know if this is OT or not. I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the !--- comment command gives you this: !--- --- Where can I change that to output: !-- -- as W3C doesn't validate with the 3 dashes? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite Comment Command
On 15/11/2010 10:54, Terry Troxel wrote: Russ thanks for answering. I guess I wasn't specific enough. Is there a keyboard shortcut command to do the html comment in Homesite? ctrl-shift-M works here -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite Comment Command
iirc, the 3-dash cf comment does not trip html validation. the 3rd dash is considered the first character of comment text. i do not ever remember having trouble with cf comments in W3C validator. Azadi On 15/11/2010 07:54 , Terry Troxel wrote: Russ thanks for answering. I guess I wasn't specific enough. Is there a keyboard shortcut command to do the html comment in Homesite? I use Coldfusion in my Site Admin for my clients to design their pages and then When they update it writes all the pages to plain html for SEO as well as speed. If there is a command it would save me a bunch of time programming instead of Deleting the extra dashes by hand. Terry -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite Comment Command Terry, !--- This is a ColdFusion Comment --- !-- This is a HTML comment -- If you put an HTML comment around CFML it will do nothing and the code will still execute. CFML comments do not appear in the source code so any HTML validation will not see it, if you are running the validation on the CFML source then just ignore the comments. Russ -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2010 22:21 To: cf-talk Subject: Homesite Comment Command I don't know if this is OT or not. I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the!--- comment command gives you this:!--- --- Where can I change that to output:!-- -- as W3C doesn't validate with the 3 dashes? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite Comment Command
On 15/11/2010 11:22, Azadi Saryev wrote: iirc, the 3-dash cf comment does not trip html validation. the 3rd dash is considered the first character of comment text. i do not ever remember having trouble with cf comments in W3C validator. If you are being strict the comment is actually, in quotes, !-- , note the space at the end. So the third dash is wrong in that context. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite Comment Command
These are the errors I get with XHTML Transitional Line 10, Column 27: invalid comment declaration: found name character outside comment but inside comment declaration !--- this is a comment --- Line 10, Column 1: comment declaration started here !--- this is a comment --- Terry -Original Message- From: Azadi Saryev [mailto:azadi.sar...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 4:22 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite Comment Command iirc, the 3-dash cf comment does not trip html validation. the 3rd dash is considered the first character of comment text. i do not ever remember having trouble with cf comments in W3C validator. Azadi On 15/11/2010 07:54 , Terry Troxel wrote: Russ thanks for answering. I guess I wasn't specific enough. Is there a keyboard shortcut command to do the html comment in Homesite? I use Coldfusion in my Site Admin for my clients to design their pages and then When they update it writes all the pages to plain html for SEO as well as speed. If there is a command it would save me a bunch of time programming instead of Deleting the extra dashes by hand. Terry -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite Comment Command Terry, !--- This is a ColdFusion Comment --- !-- This is a HTML comment -- If you put an HTML comment around CFML it will do nothing and the code will still execute. CFML comments do not appear in the source code so any HTML validation will not see it, if you are running the validation on the CFML source then just ignore the comments. Russ -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2010 22:21 To: cf-talk Subject: Homesite Comment Command I don't know if this is OT or not. I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the!--- comment command gives you this:!--- --- Where can I change that to output:!-- -- as W3C doesn't validate with the 3 dashes? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite Comment Command
Haven't followed this whole thread, not sure what you're doing, but the CFML comment sequence should never print through to the output at all, ***when interpreted by a CFML engine***. If you're reading the file somehow, then it's not being handled as CFML, and you'll have to deal wiht it according to your circumstances. But as CFML, the validator hsould never see it, because it doesn't render on the page. It's a comment, not HTML. Dave On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote: These are the errors I get with XHTML Transitional Line 10, Column 27: invalid comment declaration: found name character outside comment but inside comment declaration !--- this is a comment --- Line 10, Column 1: comment declaration started here !--- this is a comment --- Terry -Original Message- From: Azadi Saryev [mailto:azadi.sar...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 4:22 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite Comment Command iirc, the 3-dash cf comment does not trip html validation. the 3rd dash is considered the first character of comment text. i do not ever remember having trouble with cf comments in W3C validator. Azadi On 15/11/2010 07:54 , Terry Troxel wrote: Russ thanks for answering. I guess I wasn't specific enough. Is there a keyboard shortcut command to do the html comment in Homesite? I use Coldfusion in my Site Admin for my clients to design their pages and then When they update it writes all the pages to plain html for SEO as well as speed. If there is a command it would save me a bunch of time programming instead of Deleting the extra dashes by hand. Terry -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite Comment Command Terry, !--- This is a ColdFusion Comment --- !-- This is a HTML comment -- If you put an HTML comment around CFML it will do nothing and the code will still execute. CFML comments do not appear in the source code so any HTML validation will not see it, if you are running the validation on the CFML source then just ignore the comments. Russ -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2010 22:21 To: cf-talk Subject: Homesite Comment Command I don't know if this is OT or not. I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the!--- comment command gives you this:!--- --- Where can I change that to output:!-- -- as W3C doesn't validate with the 3 dashes? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite Comment Command (please read before replying)
Ok, let's see if I can clarify my request. I am requesting a way, any way to possibly create a keyboard shortcut within Homesite to let me create a HTML comment in my pages. I do not know how to create this and am asking for help in that regard only. I have had quite a few replies and thanks for those, but none of them are addressing my request. I have written my own CFM that allows me to give a small business person a website they easily control. I give them a back end that is written in Coldfusion that I customize to fill each sites needs. There is a command that updates their pages, which rewrites every page on the front end of their site to plain jane HTML which runs extremely fast and is very search engine friendly. I have commented quite a bit of the code to make it easy for me to add, update, or otherwise grow this contraption from time to time. I only want to make my life a little easier by not having to do what I've been doing forever and deleting the extra dashes. Period. If someone could show me how to write a function in Homesite PLEASE reply. Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
