Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
I don't know if you solved your problem or not as I don't see any reply to the suggestions. This is from the Chevelle forums and deals with your over charging. Check it out. http://www.chevelles.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-156702.html - Original Message - From: Peebles, Lorne (Services) To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
I had the wire harness opened up from battery over to horn relay area all the way across the rad support. Found some rough splices and repaired with proper connectors. Had the alternator removed from car and tested OK, I still have a drain on battery. I make my measurement from positive battery cable to ground with battery and alternator removed from car and still have 20 Ohms resistance.. With battery in and all hooked up I test for voltage and watch it drop off rapidly like a countdown. This is with the ignition off and key removed. Just looking for the more common points of interest before going wire by wire to find short or am I missing something? Lorne From: Dan Rachlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:03 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging Maybe check the juction block where the positive meets on the rad support? Dan On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
Lorne, so what I think we can say for sure is that the Horn relay is the center point for all circuit power to the fuse block. There are several connections on the two large tabs of the horn relay. Disconnect all connections except the one to the battery. Check for drain. Re-connect those connections one-at-a-time and see if the leakage occurs again. Then follow it to the next point which is the fuse block. That fuse block has two pieces and if old and fragile. My 67 OEM was in bad shape with corroded terminals both inside the car and on the firewall side. If you break something, it will be hard to repair but you have to keep searching. The problem could be inside this clam shell fuse block. regards mike --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:33 AM I had the wire harness opened up from battery over to horn relay area all the way across the rad support. Found some rough splices and repaired with proper connectors. Had the alternator removed from car and tested OK, I still have a drain on battery. I make my measurement from positive battery cable to ground with battery and alternator removed from car and still have 20 Ohms resistance.. With battery in and all hooked up I test for voltage and watch it drop off rapidly like a countdown. This is with the ignition off and key removed. Just looking for the more common points of interest before going wire by wire to find short or am I missing something? Lorne From: Dan Rachlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:03 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging Maybe check the juction block where the positive meets on the rad support? Dan On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
Lorne, Do you have a wiring diagram? If not, I have one on PDF I can Email you. Take off the wire that comes from the battery and goes to the junction block. Test again, if you still have the problem, then it's on the way to the starter and coil. If not, then reattach the wires that go to the horn and check further down the line. There is a huge connection of wires in the line that go to different points on the car. This joint may also be a problem. Since the car is old, also check wires someone may have put through the firewall that do not have grommets as they may be grounding out. Hope any of this helps. Dan On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the wire harness opened up from battery over to horn relay area all the way across the rad support. Found some rough splices and repaired with proper connectors. Had the alternator removed from car and tested OK, I still have a drain on battery. I make my measurement from positive battery cable to ground with battery and alternator removed from car and still have 20 Ohms resistance.. With battery in and all hooked up I test for voltage and watch it drop off rapidly like a countdown. This is with the ignition off and key removed. Just looking for the more common points of interest before going wire by wire to find short or am I missing something? Lorne -- *From:* Dan Rachlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:03 PM *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging Maybe check the juction block where the positive meets on the rad support? Dan On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
Agree that a shorted diode in the alternator could cause both problems. Also where are you measuring to get the 20 ohms? On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Chuck Kranz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suspect the alternator. Sounds like a diode may have blown or one of the slip ring brushes is shorted. Peebles, Lorne (Services) wrote: Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always. -- Chuck 65 Malibu 327 4 speed. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
[Chevelle-list] alternator charging
Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
Maybe check the juction block where the positive meets on the rad support? Dan On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Peebles, Lorne (Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don't want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can't seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can't get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator charging
I would suspect the alternator. Sounds like a diode may have blown or one of the slip ring brushes is shorted. Peebles, Lorne (Services) wrote: Quick questions. I have 66 Malibu BB. While running at idle the battery is charging at approx 17Vdc. I have a Delco Remi with external regulator. I worry that this is too much and don’t want to damage new battery . I also have a electrical short I just can’t seem to find. With battery disconnected and the key out I find a resistance of around 20 Ohms, indicating a closed circuit or short. I have pulled all of the fuses and taps but can’t get the short isolated. Any ideas or recommendations greatly appreciated as always. -- Chuck 65 Malibu 327 4 speed.
[Chevelle-list] Alternator rebuilding
I found this site. For any one wanting to rebuild their alternator or increase to high output / upgrade parts, this site has it. Thought I'd pass it on. http://www.alternatorparts.com/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue
I had the same problem, sort of! I needed a new bolt bought what was supposed to be the correct bolt but that bolt was too small for my alternator and block. Pelle Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Kevin Brown Skickat: den 8 november 2006 02:19 Till: The Chevelle Mailing List Ämne: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue Hello, That Is a Option But First And Formost Make Sure You Have The Right Altenator, You Won't Be The First Nor The Last To Get The Wrong Part. Even If The Book Shows The Same Number The Printed Number In The Book Could Be Wron. Is There A Chance To Check With Another Parts Supple Place?? Have Them Pull One Off The Shelf And See If Your Bolt Fits.I Am Willing To Bet That Something Is Wrong.Either You Don't Have The Engine You Think You Have Or The Parts Supple House Has The Number Goofed Up Something Isn't Right. You have To Check All Things Out Before Ya Mess With Enlarging The Hole As You Won't Be Able To Take It Back. And If It Isn't For Your Car How Do You Know What Is Is?? How Many Amps Etc. Just Do Alittle Investigation Is What I Am Suggesting.It Don't Cost Anything And You Will Be Sure You Got The Real McCoy!! Hang In There Chev702. * tabius barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I was replacing my alternator with a new one on my 71 SS 402, and got everything hooked up and when I attempted to insert the longbolt that threads into the engine block, the bolt was too large for the new alternator hole. So i figured the the parts store gave me the wrong alternator, but after trying several different ones at several different auto supply stores, they are all identical and my bolt is too big. Siince obviously using a smaller bolt is not an option (since it threads into the engine block), should i just have the alternator hole machined out since there is no thread in that portion of the alternator? Thanks, Tabius Use your PC to make calls at very low rates Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for?
[Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue
Hello All, I was replacing my alternator with a new one on my 71 SS 402, and got everything hooked up and when I attempted to insert the longbolt that threads into the engine block, the bolt was too large for the new alternator hole. So i figured the the parts store gave me the wrong alternator, but after trying several different ones at several different auto supply stores, they are all identical and my bolt is too big. Siince obviously using a smaller bolt is not an option (since it threads into the engine block), should i just have the alternator hole machined out since there is no thread in that portion of the alternator? Thanks, Tabius Use your PC to make calls at very low rates
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue
Hello, That Is a Option But First And Formost Make Sure You Have The Right Altenator, You Won't Be The First Nor The Last To Get The Wrong Part. Even If The Book Show"s The Same Number The Printed Number In The Book Could Be Wron. Is There A Chance To Check With Another Parts Supple Place?? Have Them Pull One Off The Shelf And See If Your Bolt Fits.I Am Willing To Bet That Something Is Wrong.Either You Don't Have The Engine You Think You Have Or The Parts Supple House Has The Number Goofed Up Something Isn't Right. You have To Check All Things Out Before Ya Mess With Enlarging The Hole As You Won't Be Able To Take It Back. And If It Isn't For Your Car How Do You Know What Is Is?? How Many Amps Etc. Just Do Alittle Investigation Is What I Am Suggesting.It Don't Cost Anything And You Will Be Sure You Got The Real McCoy!! Hang In There Chev702. *tabius barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All,I was replacing my alternator with a new one on my 71 SS 402, and got everything hooked up and when I attempted to insert the longbolt that threads into the engine block, the bolt was too large for the new alternator hole. So i figured the the parts store gave me the wrong alternator, but after trying several different ones at several different auto supply stores, they are all identical and my bolt is too big. Siince obviously using a smaller bolt is not an option (since it threads into the engine block), should i just have the alternator hole machined out since there is no thread in that portion of the alternator?Thanks, TabiusUse your PC to make calls at very low rates Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue
Thanks Kevin. I did try other supply houses and all of the alternators are identical but the hole is too small. My car is numbers matching so it is definately a 402. From:Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo:The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject:Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator IssueDate:Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:19:08 -0800 (PST) Hello, That Is a Option But First And Formost Make Sure You Have The Right Altenator, You Won't Be The First Nor The Last To Get The Wrong Part. Even If The Book Show"s The Same Number The Printed Number In The Book Could Be Wron. Is There A Chance To Check With Another Parts Supple Place?? Have Them Pull One Off The Shelf And See If Your Bolt Fits.I Am Willing To Bet That Something Is Wrong.Either You Don't Have The Engine You Think You Have Or The Parts Supple House Has The Number Goofed Up Something Isn't Right. You have To Check All Things Out Before Ya Mess With Enlarging The Hole As You Won't Be Able To Take It Back. And If It Isn't For Your Car How Do You Know What Is Is?? How Many Amps Etc. Just Do Alittle Investigation Is What I Am Suggesting.It Don't Cost Anything And You Will Be Sure You Got The Real McCoy!! Hang In There Chev702. *tabius barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I was replacing my alternator with a new one on my 71 SS 402, and got everything hooked up and when I attempted to insert the longbolt that threads into the engine block, the bolt was too large for the new alternator hole. So i figured the the parts store gave me the wrong alternator, but after trying several different ones at several different auto supply stores, they are all identical and my bolt is too big. Siince obviously using a smaller bolt is not an option (since it threads into the engine block), should i just have the alternator hole machined out since there is no thread in that portion of the alternator? Thanks, Tabius Use your PC to make calls at very low rates Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search!
[Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
details 66 Chevelle 396 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue
If I had a matching numbers car, I would have the original alternator rebuilt. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue
3/8" bolt should be standard on your car. If it is larger someone possibly stripped the whole and went one larger. My $.02- Original Message From: tabius barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 8:20:04 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Issue Thanks Kevin. I did try other supply houses and all of the alternators are identical but the hole is too small. My car is numbers matching so it is definately a 402. From:Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo:The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject:Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator IssueDate:Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:19:08 -0800 (PST) Hello, That Is a Option But First And Formost Make Sure You Have The Right Altenator, You Won't Be The First Nor The Last To Get The Wrong Part. Even If The Book Show"s The Same Number The Printed Number In The Book Could Be Wron. Is There A Chance To Check With Another Parts Supple Place?? Have Them Pull One Off The Shelf And See If Your Bolt Fits.I Am Willing To Bet That Something Is Wrong.Either You Don't Have The Engine You Think You Have Or The Parts Supple House Has The Number Goofed Up Something Isn't Right. You have To Check All Things Out Before Ya Mess With Enlarging The Hole As You Won't Be Able To Take It Back. And If It Isn't For Your Car How Do You Know What Is Is?? How Many Amps Etc. Just Do Alittle Investigation Is What I Am Suggesting.It Don't Cost Anything And You Will Be Sure You Got The Real McCoy!! Hang In There Chev702. *tabius barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I was replacing my alternator with a new one on my 71 SS 402, and got everything hooked up and when I attempted to insert the longbolt that threads into the engine block, the bolt was too large for the new alternator hole. So i figured the the parts store gave me the wrong alternator, but after trying several different ones at several different auto supply stores, they are all identical and my bolt is too big. Siince obviously using a smaller bolt is not an option (since it threads into the engine block), should i just have the alternator hole machined out since there is no thread in that portion of the alternator? Thanks, Tabius Use your PC to make calls at very low rates Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
Moroso makes one for the small block, right side mount, short water pump. Part # 63825 Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
If you hve abig block I believe the part # 63840 will work on either side. Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
Not the best looking in my opinion but Alan Grove components makes brackets for a short pump big block that mounts the alternator on the passenger side. Check http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/B.B.Short_Pump.htm One mounts the alternator pretty high and may not fit under the hood and one is a low profile that mounts the alternator about mid-carb height. They are priced online at $70 and $85 respectively. If neither of those fits the bill, I have some ideas on how you could build your own very similar to this: http://dalesplace.com/misc/march/alt2.jpg http://dalesplace.com/misc/march/alt5.jpg Take some work and probably cost about the same as the ones above but itd be different. Dale McIntosh 1967 Chevelle Reference CD ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:25 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting details 66 Chevelle 396 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
Id almost bet it would put the alternator fan pulley too far out from the block to align with the water pump pulley. The two standoffs as Moroso calls them that space the alternator away from the head and block are 5 and 3 respectively. Dale McIntosh 1967 Chevelle Reference CD ACES #1709/TC GOLD #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:09 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting If you hve abig block I believe the part # 63840 will work on either side. Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
Tim- It would have come stock on the driver's side. Why are you trying to relocate it? Devin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting details 66 Chevelle 396 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting
Devin, clearance has been a mother foxtrot, due to valve covers and placement, ideally if it fell on the passenger side my worries would be answered, still sortin the puzzle out Thanks for the input - Original Message - From: Devin To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Tim- It would have come stock on the driver's side. Why are you trying to relocate it? Devin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting details 66 Chevelle 396 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Mounting Hi Gang, am trying to locate an alternator mounting bracket to be mounted on the passenger side cylinder head using ashort water pump. Nobody seems to make such a monster, any thoughts and tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
Hello:you can get a alternator built to any specs,with the load that you had in the rain,actually a 63 amp it should have been okay,take the alternator and get it tested for correct operation,also make shure the belt was tight,if you can put a avr or a similiar tested on the car,to see if the alternator was actually putting out as close as possible to 63 amps would be a good test to see if the alternator is okay internally. - Original Message - From: Dave Benjamin To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. Thank you in advance Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
From: Dave Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in .the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. A 63 amp alternator should handle that load. How's the belt? Good tension, not hard and glazed? Since it was raining it may have been slipping. Is the voltage regulator ok? Just something to check before condemning the alternator. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
[Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. Thank you in advance Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
Personally with the three things going at once I wouldnt worry about the volts dropping to 12 as long as it comes back up during normal operations. A 63 amp unit should be enough if its in good working order. If you also had a high-end stereo then a 100-130 amp wouldnt be out of line IMO. Dale McIntosh 1967 ChevelleReference CD! http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:43 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. Thank you in advance Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
Hi Dave, I have a 1968 Chevelle SS 396 that I installed a One-wire Alternator from Powermaster on 06-20-2002. Part number 8002. the Output at Idle is with a stock pulley at 2400 rpm was 75 amps, and at hwy speeds of 6000 Dyno Rpm was 102 amps. I just had to run a wire directly to the battery. I didn't mess with running it through the starter etc. I also had to modify my Voltage Reg to keep the battery light from staying on all the time. The only thing I run off this is an MSD box, radio lights etc. No stereo or other add ons. Terry S. Hodges From: Dave Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/02 Wed PM 12:42:35 EDT To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. Thank you in advance Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
Dave, You should check the wiring first. Read the primer on the chevrolet wiring at MAD Electrical.com. mike --- Dave Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. Thank you in advance Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question
I upgraded mine years ago to a 100 amp unit. I don't open these things up, but it was able to be done within my existing 4-wire case. I don't run anything with enough draw to put much of a load on it at this time, but if I choose to add more accessories I know I'm ok. Devin - Original Message - From: Dave Benjamin To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator Question I was wondering what size of Alternator I should be using on my 1968 Beaumont (350/350). I have a 63 amp and it was working good until Sunday night I got caught in the rain coming home from cruise night. With wipers,lights and heater blower going the volts were down to 12 and was a little worried. What size Alternator are most of uses using. Thank you in advance Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator for 66 Chevelle
Looks ok, You may need to spin the case around to get it clocked to line up your brackets. Just call Summit they have an excellent support staff. Exchanges are no hassle. Cant say enough about their service. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Larry Shouse Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:43 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator for 66 Chevelle Can somebody tell me if this alternator from Summit will work with an original harness with external regulator? I'm trying to find a reasonably priced alternator in a chrome case. This one is $76.95. Any suggestions? Thanks, Larry Part NumberSUM-812102 Brand: Summit ProductLine: Summit Alternators AdvertisedAmperageOutput: 80 amps AlternatorCaseStyle: GM 10DN OneWireCapable: No PulleyIncluded: Yes PulleyStyle: V-belt RegulatorIncluded: No RegulatorStyle: External BeltIncluded: No AlternatorBracketsIncluded: No AlternatorFinish: Chrome plated Quantity: Sold individually. Alternator, External Regulator, 80 Amp, Chrome Plated, Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Chevy/GMC, Each
Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator for 66 Chevelle
Jim, Thanks for your reply.I've heard that term before, but I don't know what it means. Can you or someone else here give me a primer on "clocking" an alternator? Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Jim H. Thompson To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Alternator for 66 Chevelle Looks ok, You may need to spin the case around to get it clocked to line up your brackets. Just call Summit they have an excellent support staff. Exchanges are no hassle. Cant say enough about their service. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:43 PMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator for 66 Chevelle Can somebody tell me if this alternator from Summit will work with an original harness with external regulator? I'm trying to find a reasonably priced alternator in a chrome case. This one is $76.95. Any suggestions? Thanks, Larry Part NumberSUM-812102 Brand: Summit ProductLine: Summit Alternators AdvertisedAmperageOutput: 80 amps AlternatorCaseStyle: GM 10DN OneWireCapable: No PulleyIncluded: Yes PulleyStyle: V-belt RegulatorIncluded: No RegulatorStyle: External BeltIncluded: No AlternatorBracketsIncluded: No AlternatorFinish: Chrome plated Quantity: Sold individually. Alternator, External Regulator, 80 Amp, Chrome Plated, Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Chevy/GMC, Each
[Chevelle-list] Alternator for 66 Chevelle
Can somebody tell me if this alternator from Summit will work with an original harness with external regulator? I'm trying to find a reasonably priced alternator in a chrome case. This one is $76.95. Any suggestions? Thanks, Larry Part NumberSUM-812102 Brand: Summit ProductLine: Summit Alternators AdvertisedAmperageOutput: 80 amps AlternatorCaseStyle: GM 10DN OneWireCapable: No PulleyIncluded: Yes PulleyStyle: V-belt RegulatorIncluded: No RegulatorStyle: External BeltIncluded: No AlternatorBracketsIncluded: No AlternatorFinish: Chrome plated Quantity: Sold individually. Alternator, External Regulator, 80 Amp, Chrome Plated, Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Chevy/GMC, Each
RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets
I had major problems finding the correct bracket. I have a blower and an electric fuel pump on my 454. I called several companies, but Zoops was the only one that worked! -Original Message- From: Mumper, Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:18 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets Check summit web site, you can put in what side you want your alt. bracket to be on and it will show you what they have! Doug -Original Message- From: Bow Tie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM To: Chevelle list Subject: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets I have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want to mount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know what brackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I would have to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to do that. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help. Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it? Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets
I'm actually trying to check that out for you but will have to take a look at mine to be sure. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bow Tie Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:38 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets John, where can I buy one? Iv'e looked at a dozen sites that sell brackets and they all were for the pass. side. I found billet, but I don't want that. I'm trying to keep it stock looking. (factory) Thanks John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can buy stock-looking (black) brackets. I have a 1958 block with a long water pump and alternator on the driver's side as you described. John Nasta -Original Message- From: Bow Tie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chevelle list <CHEVELLE-LIST@CHEVELLES.NET> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets I have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want to mount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know what brackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I would have to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to do that. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help. Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it? Thanks Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
[Chevelle-list] alternator brackets
I have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want to mount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know what brackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I would have to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to do that. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help. Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it? Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets
Check summit web site, you can put in what side you want your alt. bracket to be on and it will show you what they have! Doug -Original Message- From: Bow Tie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM To: Chevelle list Subject: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets I have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want to mount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know what brackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I would have to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to do that. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help. Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it? Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Also check out http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/ these brackets look more like they could be factory than most. On 9/22/05, Mumper, Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check summit web site, you can put in what side you want your alt. bracketto be on and it will show you what they have! Doug-Original Message-From: Bow Tie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PMTo: Chevelle listSubject: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets I have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want tomount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know whatbrackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I wouldhave to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to dothat. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help.Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it?Thanks__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com-- Rick Schaefer72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets
I have several in my collection. Let me know if you still need one. - Original Message - From: Bow Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle list Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets I have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want to mount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know what brackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I would have to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to do that. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help. Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it? Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/107 - Release Date: 9/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/107 - Release Date: 9/20/2005
RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator brackets
John, where can I buy one? Iv'e looked at a dozen sites that sell brackets and they all were for the pass. side. I found billet, but I don't want that. I'm trying to keep it stock looking. (factory) ThanksJohn Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can buy stock-looking (black) brackets. I have a 1958 block with a longwater pump and alternator on the driver's side as you described.John Nasta-Original Message-From: "Bow Tie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Chevelle list" <CHEVELLE-LIST@CHEVELLES.NET>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:19 AMSubject: [Chevelle-list] alternator bracketsI have a 1966 Malibu with a 1970 350. It has the long water pump. I want to mount the alternator on the drivers side like it came. Does anyone know what brackets I could use? I know I can buy after market billet but I want it to look factory. I also know I could use a short water pump but then I would have to buy all new pulleys and power steering brackets. I don't want to do that. I can't mount it on the right because that's where my air mounts. Can anyone help. Someone must have had this same problem. How did you solve it? Thanks Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old
You probably have an old DN model. You can't use the external regulator with an internal one. It's one or the other. If your not concerned about being correct as far as originality, I would suggest you move up to a SI alternator. A 12SI 94 amp is simple to install. They're are several sites to help you do this. These are a couple of links for you to look at. This is a good article... http://hotrod.com/techarticles/pit/index15.html also M.A.D. has alot of info. http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/delcoremy.shtml The fact that you have a serpentine belt means nothing as far as which alt. you have. You can put that belt on just about anything with the right pulleys. Hope this helps you out. I did this swap to a 12 SI on my '66. You won't regret it. Especially if your in a slow cruise. And if you add air, radio amp, elect. fans, etc later on you'll be all set with enough amps to run everything. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if it is a 10si or a 12si it has a serpentine belt. The battery is good it holds a charge. The car does not run when the battery cable is pulled off. The car dies. Is it ok to run the old voltage regulator with the alt that has the built in regulator. When I turn the key on with out the car running should I have 12 voltage at the alt and what wire should it be. I believe that on the alt, on the back where the wires plug in there is the letter F on one side and not sure the letter on the other side of the plug in. I am going to take the alt off and have it checked. But back again to the switched hot wire to the alt? If there is not a hot to the alt do I go back to the external voltage regulator. Thanks AL - Original Message - From: Bow Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old What do you mean by new style alternator? Is it a 10SI or 12 SI? If it is, it has an internal regulator. If it's a DN old style you have an external regulator. You will only have as many volts at the alt. as you have in the battery with the car not running. You can check the alt. With a volt meter on DC you can check at the battery or on the bus bar of your horn relay(10 ga. red wire) while the engine is running at about 2400 rpm. You should show about 14.5 volts. If not, take your alt. to a store that can check it. This test is not always accurate. You may have a bad alt. and the thing will test good. The charging wire going to the regulator will be a 20 ga. red. It should be the 2nd wire from the pass. side. You may have a weak battery also that won't hold a charge. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question I have a 70 Chevelle SS and when I got it a new style alternator and the original voltage regulator is on it. and it stopped charging. This is my question. When I turn on the key should I have 12 volts to the alt, and from what lead coming out of the old regulator should it be. If I don't should I replace the old regulator or should I bypass it. If I do? how do I do it and still keep the idiot light working normal. I need to fix this because I will be going on a car cruse on OCT. 10. Thanks AL __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old
I have the 12si alt and the sites helped. I am pulling off the alt tomorrow and tossing it. Then rewiring it to eliminate the external regulator. Thanks, you saved me allot of time. Al - Original Message - From: Bow Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old You probably have an old DN model. You can't use the external regulator with an internal one. It's one or the other. If your not concerned about being correct as far as originality, I would suggest you move up to a SI alternator. A 12SI 94 amp is simple to install. They're are several sites to help you do this. These are a couple of links for you to look at. This is a good article... http://hotrod.com/techarticles/pit/index15.html also M.A.D. has alot of info. http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/delcoremy.shtml The fact that you have a serpentine belt means nothing as far as which alt. you have. You can put that belt on just about anything with the right pulleys. Hope this helps you out. I did this swap to a 12 SI on my '66. You won't regret it. Especially if your in a slow cruise. And if you add air, radio amp, elect. fans, etc later on you'll be all set with enough amps to run everything. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if it is a 10si or a 12si it has a serpentine belt. The battery is good it holds a charge. The car does not run when the battery cable is pulled off. The car dies. Is it ok to run the old voltage regulator with the alt that has the built in regulator. When I turn the key on with out the car running should I have 12 voltage at the alt and what wire should it be. I believe that on the alt, on the back where the wires plug in there is the letter F on one side and not sure the letter on the other side of the plug in. I am going to take the alt off and have it checked. But back again to the switched hot wire to the alt? If there is not a hot to the alt do I go back to the external voltage regulator. Thanks AL - Original Message - From: Bow Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old What do you mean by new style alternator? Is it a 10SI or 12 SI? If it is, it has an internal regulator. If it's a DN old style you have an external regulator. You will only have as many volts at the alt. as you have in the battery with the car not running. You can check the alt. With a volt meter on DC you can check at the battery or on the bus bar of your horn relay(10 ga. red wire) while the engine is running at about 2400 rpm. You should show about 14.5 volts. If not, take your alt. to a store that can check it. This test is not always accurate. You may have a bad alt. and the thing will test good. The charging wire going to the regulator will be a 20 ga. red. It should be the 2nd wire from the pass. side. You may have a weak battery also that won't hold a charge. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question I have a 70 Chevelle SS and when I got it a new style alternator and the original voltage regulator is on it. and it stopped charging. This is my question. When I turn on the key should I have 12 volts to the alt, and from what lead coming out of the old regulator should it be. If I don't should I replace the old regulator or should I bypass it. If I do? how do I do it and still keep the idiot light working normal. I need to fix this because I will be going on a car cruse on OCT. 10. Thanks AL __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old
What do you mean by new style alternator? Is it a 10SI or 12 SI? If it is, it has an internal regulator. If it's a DN old style you have an external regulator. You will only have as many volts at the alt. as you have in the battery with the car not running. You can check the alt. With a volt meter on DC you can check at the battery or on the bus bar of your horn relay(10 ga. red wire) while the engine is running at about 2400 rpm. You should show about 14.5 volts. If not, take your alt. to a store that can check it. This test is not always accurate. You may have a bad alt. and the thing will test good. The charging wire going to the regulator will be a 20 ga. red. It should be the 2nd wire from the pass. side. You may have a weak battery also that won't hold a charge. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question I have a 70 Chevelle SS and when I got it a new style alternator and the original voltage regulator is on it. and it stopped charging. This is my question. When I turn on the key should I have 12 volts to the alt, and from what lead coming out of the old regulator should it be. If I don't should I replace the old regulator or should I bypass it. If I do? how do I do it and still keep the idiot light working normal. I need to fix this because I will be going on a car cruse on OCT. 10. Thanks AL __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old
I am converting to the new style also. I have the mh harness with the correct plugs on. I just need to know what alternator to get. Am looking at a tuff stuff one or just a factory replacment. Not sure what clocking I need. Jim Buckingham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bow Tie Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:41 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old What do you mean by new style alternator? Is it a 10SI or 12 SI? If it is, it has an internal regulator. If it's a DN old style you have an external regulator. You will only have as many volts at the alt. as you have in the battery with the car not running. You can check the alt. With a volt meter on DC you can check at the battery or on the bus bar of your horn relay(10 ga. red wire) while the engine is running at about 2400 rpm. You should show about 14.5 volts. If not, take your alt. to a store that can check it. This test is not always accurate. You may have a bad alt. and the thing will test good. The charging wire going to the regulator will be a 20 ga. red. It should be the 2nd wire from the pass. side. You may have a weak battery also that won't hold a charge. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question I have a 70 Chevelle SS and when I got it a new style alternator and the original voltage regulator is on it. and it stopped charging. This is my question. When I turn on the key should I have 12 volts to the alt, and from what lead coming out of the old regulator should it be. If I don't should I replace the old regulator or should I bypass it. If I do? how do I do it and still keep the idiot light working normal. I need to fix this because I will be going on a car cruse on OCT. 10. Thanks AL __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old
I am not sure if it is a 10si or a 12si it has a serpentine belt. The battery is good it holds a charge. The car does not run when the battery cable is pulled off. The car dies. Is it ok to run the old voltage regulator with the alt that has the built in regulator. When I turn the key on with out the car running should I have 12 voltage at the alt and what wire should it be. I believe that on the alt, on the back where the wires plug in there is the letter F on one side and not sure the letter on the other side of the plug in. I am going to take the alt off and have it checked. But back again to the switched hot wire to the alt? If there is not a hot to the alt do I go back to the external voltage regulator. Thanks AL - Original Message - From: Bow Tie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old What do you mean by new style alternator? Is it a 10SI or 12 SI? If it is, it has an internal regulator. If it's a DN old style you have an external regulator. You will only have as many volts at the alt. as you have in the battery with the car not running. You can check the alt. With a volt meter on DC you can check at the battery or on the bus bar of your horn relay(10 ga. red wire) while the engine is running at about 2400 rpm. You should show about 14.5 volts. If not, take your alt. to a store that can check it. This test is not always accurate. You may have a bad alt. and the thing will test good. The charging wire going to the regulator will be a 20 ga. red. It should be the 2nd wire from the pass. side. You may have a weak battery also that won't hold a charge. --- Al Hembd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question I have a 70 Chevelle SS and when I got it a new style alternator and the original voltage regulator is on it. and it stopped charging. This is my question. When I turn on the key should I have 12 volts to the alt, and from what lead coming out of the old regulator should it be. If I don't should I replace the old regulator or should I bypass it. If I do? how do I do it and still keep the idiot light working normal. I need to fix this because I will be going on a car cruse on OCT. 10. Thanks AL __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Chevelle-list] alternator stopped charging new with old
I have a question I have a 70 Chevelle SS and when I got it a new style alternator and the original voltage regulator is on it. and it stopped charging. This is my question. When I turn on the key should I have 12 volts to the alt, and from what lead coming out of the old regulator should it be.If I don't should I replace the old regulator or should I bypass it. If I do? how do I do it and still keep the idiot light working normal. I need to fix this because I will be going on a car cruse on OCT. 10. Thanks AL
[Chevelle-list] Alternator wiring
Guys, I need a little help. I pulled the plug-in connector out of the back of my alternator last night the 40 year old plastic fell apart in my hand. I need to patch something up to get the car to a friends shop dont know which wire plugs onto which post. My car is a 65 with an external regulator setup so theres a blue wire a black with white stripe. If youre staring at the back of the alternator the tab on the missing plug is supposed to go toward the top of the hole, which wire goes to which side? Thanks, Dean Vandergriff
RE: [Chevelle-list] Alternator wiring
Mine has blue on the bottom toward the pass. side and white on top toward drivers side. Brian From: Dean Vandergriff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alternator wiring Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:51:04 -0600 Guys, I need a little help. I pulled the plug-in connector out of the back of my alternator last night the 40 year old plastic fell apart in my hand. I need to patch something up to get the car to a friends shop don't know which wire plugs onto which post. My car is a '65 with an external regulator setup so there's a blue wire a black with white stripe. If you're staring at the back of the alternator the tab on the missing plug is supposed to go toward the top of the hole, which wire goes to which side? Thanks, Dean Vandergriff _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator ?
thanks to all for the help with the alternator question!! H
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator ?
http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/onewire-threewire.shtml - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:43 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] alternator ? Hi. I was wondering if anyone had a wiring diagram of what it takes to convert from an external voltage regulator alternator, to a alternator with an internal regulator??also is there any good or bad to convert to a "1" wire alternator???and what kind od re-wiring is needed for this?Thanks!!Harlan68 chevelle convert72 elky71 elky68 buick GS California
[Chevelle-list] alternator ?
Hi. I was wondering if anyone had a wiring diagram of what it takes to convert from an external voltage regulator alternator, to a alternator with an internal regulator?? also is there any good or bad to convert to a "1" wire alternator??? and what kind od re-wiring is needed for this? Thanks!! Harlan 68 chevelle convert 72 elky 71 elky 68 buick GS California
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator ?
Just get yourself an internal regulator, take off the voltage regulator that is on the radiator support and jump the plug. There are 4 pins on the plug. Jump 1 to 3 and 2 to 4. You could also get a little kit from MH that costs about $25. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] alternator ?
Check out the madelectrical.com web site. Mark explains the advantages/disadvantages of alternators, and he sells kits to convert external to internal. Hope this helps, it did help me. Gene
[Chevelle-list] Alternator Change Over
Question: Changing over to a CS130 alternator on my 1972 Monte Carlo, the Chevelle tech article mentioned using one for a 1988 Olds Firenza, the 3 listed for this car won't work. Has anyone made this swap on a 1972 vehicle or does anyone have any ideas which alternator will work? Thanks. D.R. Jones
[Chevelle-List] Alternator not charging??
Fellas, I just installed a new 1 wire alternator on my car. But here's the thing... when the car is running, the voltage at the battery doesn't increase, its as if the alt. is not charging.. it should jump to 14.5 at the battery, but all I get is whatever voltage the battery was at before I started the car.. This is the same reason I replaced the old 3 wire alt, because of a no charge condition.. Could the battery be the real problem here?? any good test you fellas know of?? Thanks. Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.alloldchevy.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator not charging??
Dan try unhooking the alt from the battery and start it up and use a meter to test the alt to ground if you see the 14.5 that would mean your batt is shorted internally. Jason Boivin http://home.wizard.org/twchevelle/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion
UPDATE! I found out the Alt I was given was not a 65 amp it was a large output which does not allow a Idiot light, only an Voltmeter or a Ammeter. Also does not need to be Jumped from Bat to terminal 2, I think these are called true one wire alts. John B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle-list;chevelles.net]On Behalf Of John C. Butler Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:59 PM To: Chevelle-List@Chevelles. Net (E-mail) Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion Ok, I upgraded my alternator on my 66 with a internal regulator and followed the instructions exactly from Chevelle Tech http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref14.html now if I connect the idiot light wire to the alternator I cannot shut off the car. The alternator is charging ok, and the car runs just fine with the wire off, but I have no Gen idiot lighthmm..maybe it will not work because I'm not an idiot. Any suggestion from the Chevelle Gods?Could the ignition switch be bad? JB - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion
John, I seem to recall that a diode is needed in this application. The ignition circuit still sees voltage from the alternator (which is still spinning after the switch is turned off). I don't have the schematic handy, and don't remember where the diode is used. Funny thing is, I did this conversion on my '66 El Camino several years ago and did not run into the problem. My idiot light works and every thing! Go figure. I believe there is a Tech article on the Team Chevelle website on this topic. Worth a look. Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, AZ '70 Malibu '66 El Camino -Original Message- From: John C. Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:59 PM To: Chevelle-List@Chevelles. Net (E-mail) Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion Ok, I upgraded my alternator on my 66 with a internal regulator and followed the instructions exactly from Chevelle Tech http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref14.html now if I connect the idiot light wire to the alternator I cannot shut off the car. The alternator is charging ok, and the car runs just fine with the wire off, but I have no Gen idiot lighthmm..maybe it will not work because I'm not an idiot. Any suggestion from the Chevelle Gods?Could the ignition switch be bad? JB - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential or legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not a named addressee, you are notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication without the consent of the sender and that doing so may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender via return e-mail and delete it from your computer. Thank you. St. Jude Medical, Inc. * - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Alternator conversion
Ok, I upgraded my alternator on my 66 with a internal regulator and followed the instructions exactly from Chevelle Tech http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref14.html now if I connect the idiot light wire to the alternator I cannot shut off the car. The alternator is charging ok, and the car runs just fine with the wire off, but I have no Gen idiot lighthmm..maybe it will not work because I'm not an idiot. Any suggestion from the Chevelle Gods?Could the ignition switch be bad? JB - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Alternator Bolt
I noticed the other day that I was missing the spacer that the Alternator Bolt goes through into the heads.Right now my Alternator is only attached to the bracket. Ifinally found a spacer. My question is does anyone know what the thread size is on the bolt that attaches the Alternator to the engine. Thanks. Craig 69SS
RE: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Bolt
Most likely 3/8 x 16. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Cerena Robertson Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Bolt I noticed the other day that I was missing the spacer that the Alternator Bolt goes through into the heads.Right now my Alternator is only attached to the bracket. Ifinally found a spacer. My question is does anyone know what the thread size is on the bolt that attaches the Alternator to the engine. Thanks. Craig 69SS
RE: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Bolt
Craig The bolt thread is 3/8 x 16 Good Luck Wayne 66 Malibu -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Cerena RobertsonSent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Bolt I noticed the other day that I was missing the spacer that the Alternator Bolt goes through into the heads.Right now my Alternator is only attached to the bracket. Ifinally found a spacer. My question is does anyone know what the thread size is on the bolt that attaches the Alternator to the engine. Thanks. Craig 69SS
[Chevelle-List] alternator troubleshoot
please if not too late i would like a copy of this please - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] alternator troubleshoot
Are you talking about the one I sent out? If so, let me know. Rich - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:29 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] alternator troubleshoot please if not too late i would like a copy of this please - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Guage Connections
Craig, I just recently installed a set of gauges in my 65. Assuming you are using a voltmeter, ( - ) goes to a good ground point, and ( + ) goes to any 12VDC positive connection that is hot when the car is turned on. ( I used my radio circuit ). If you are using an ammeter, I have no clue, never really seen a point in those. Take it easy. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu In a message dated 7/26/2002 6:17:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to install a Sunpro Alt. Gauge in my 69 Chevelle. The directions give me 8 different ways that most electrical systems are set up. I have no idea which one is correct for my car. Can anyone tell me the correct hookup locations for the + and - on the gauge. Thanks Craig
[Chevelle-List] Alternator (one more day)
OK, I know someone didn't get a copy. So I'll wait 1 more day before removing from my hard drive. I got a couple of fatal messages from bekeman@hotmail, paul@inwave, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and mjpell@prostreet. I think Mike(mjpell) got it though. Let me know. If you have a preference for WORD or PAINT, let me know. Paint files are smaller and they seem to look better. If not, I'll send in PAINT. Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Article (available on website)
Yes, I now have all of the pages to the article. Thanks Richard! I've not yet read, but am eager to. And I'll post them on my website for a while for everyone to get. Get a single 1.4mb zip file here: http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle.zip Get each individual file here: http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle1.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle2.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle3.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle4.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle5.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle6.bmp Right now I left them as .bmp files, so they're a little fat. If there is still interest next week, I'll work on reformatting them as .jpg files. My quick attempt this morning left them fuzzy looking, so I'll stick with the .bmp format. Mike 'Off to Super Chevy with my Chevelle!' P. Richard Milkiewicz wrote: OK, I know someone didn't get a copy. So I'll wait 1 more day before removing from my hard drive. I got a couple of fatal messages from bekeman@hotmail, paul@inwave, [EMAIL PROTECTED], andmjpell@prostreet. I think Mike(mjpell) got it though. Let me know. If you have a preference for WORD or PAINT, let me know. Paint files are smaller and they seem to look better. If not, I'll send in PAINT.Rich -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator (one more day)
Rich, Even though I did not ask for a copy I wanted to say thanks! Its awesome to see someone take the time to fill so many request. Best gas guzzling Regards, JDHall - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator (one more day) OK, I know someone didn't get a copy. So I'll wait 1 more day before removing from my hard drive. I got a couple of fatal messages from bekeman@hotmail, paul@inwave, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and mjpell@prostreet. I think Mike(mjpell) got it though. Let me know. If you have a preference for WORD or PAINT, let me know. Paint files are smaller and they seem to look better. If not, I'll send in PAINT. Rich
RE: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Article (available on website)
Michael, Why not convert the .BMP files to .JPG? Reduces 4.75Mb to 798K and keeps the files the same size with no apparent loss of quality. Just a thought, Dale -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael PellSent: Friday, July 12, 2002 7:34 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Article (available on website)Yes, I now have all of the pages to the article. Thanks Richard! I've not yet read, but am eager to. And I'll post them on my website for a while for everyone to get. Get a single 1.4mb zip file here: http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle.zip Get each individual file here: http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle1.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle2.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle3.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle4.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle5.bmp http://www.5speedTransmissions.com/AlternatorArticle6.bmp Right now I left them as .bmp files, so they're a little fat. If there is still interest next week, I'll work on reformatting them as .jpg files. My quick attempt this morning left them fuzzy looking, so I'll stick with the .bmp format. Mike 'Off to Super Chevy with my Chevelle!' P. Richard Milkiewicz wrote: OK, I know someone didn't get a copy. So I'll wait 1 more day before removing from my hard drive. I got a couple of fatal messages from bekeman@hotmail, paul@inwave, [EMAIL PROTECTED], andmjpell@prostreet. I think Mike(mjpell) got it though. Let me know. If you have a preference for WORD or PAINT, let me know. Paint files are smaller and they seem to look better. If not, I'll send in PAINT.Rich -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator (one more day)
Richard, I got all pages. Thanks for your efforts! BobBelz 71SS454 - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator (one more day) OK, I know someone didn't get a copy. So I'll wait 1 more day before removing from my hard drive. I got a couple of fatal messages from bekeman@hotmail, paul@inwave, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and mjpell@prostreet. I think Mike(mjpell) got it though. Let me know. If you have a preference for WORD or PAINT, let me know. Paint files are smaller and they seem to look better. If not, I'll send in PAINT. Rich
Re: Re:[Chevelle-List] Alternator
Send me a copy please and thankyou [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: rick schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:56 PM Subject: Re:[Chevelle-List] Alternator -- Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss anyone? This was the 2nd e-mailing. Rich I recieved pages 2 3. Was there a page one? And thank you for the info. rick schaefer 72 El camino http://www.endrud.net/elcamino/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
Please send me a copy. Thanks Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Milkiewicz wrote: Did I miss anyone who wanted a copy of the alternator trouble shooting article? If so I'm sorry. Let me know and I'll send it. Rich - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
In a message dated 7/10/2002 8:09:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me know and I'll send it. Rich PLEASE send me a copy as well Mike
[Chevelle-List] Alternator
Did I miss anyone who wanted a copy of the alternator trouble shooting article? If so I'm sorry. Let me know and I'll send it. Rich
Re:[Chevelle-List] Alternator
Man I'll sign up for anything thats free :DI'd appreciate a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't need it now, but sounds like a valuable reference piece. rick schaefer -- Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss anyone who wanted a copy of the alternator trouble shooting article? If so I'm sorry. Let me know and I'll send it. Rich rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
Rick, if it's not to much trouble I too would like a copy of the alternator diagnostics. Many thanks! Dan Raburn rick schaefer wrote: Man I'll sign up for anything thats free :DI'd appreciate a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't need it now, but sounds like a valuable reference piece. rick schaefer -- Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss anyone who wanted a copy of the alternator trouble shooting article? If so I'm sorry. Let me know and I'll send it. Rich rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
I'd like a copy. I'm sending another request cause I had a problem with the previous one and it might not have been sent properly. Thanks. PHIL G./65 SS In a message dated Tue, 9 Jul 2002 6:48:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss anyone who wanted a copy of the alternator trouble shooting article? If so I'm sorry. Let me know and I'll send it. Rich - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
If it isn't too late I might as well jump on the bandwagon and ask for a copy too. Sounds like it is something good to have around. Sorry we are all bombarding you with these requests. Thanks in advance. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dan Raburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Rick, if it's not to much trouble I too would like a copy of the alternator diagnostics. Many thanks! Dan Raburn rick schaefer wrote: Man I'll sign up for anything thats free :DI'd appreciate a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't need it now, but sounds like a valuable reference piece. rick schaefer -- Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss anyone who wanted a copy of the alternator trouble shooting article? If so I'm sorry. Let me know and I'll send it. Rich rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Alternator
Did I miss anyone? This was the 2nd e-mailing. Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
Oh, what the hell, can you send me one too...PLASE. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Richard Milkiewicz wrote: Did I miss anyone? This was the 2nd e-mailing.Rich - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
Just an FYI, these files are huge. I'm d/l-ing them now and have to check my email via web interface because the download is tying up Outlook on me (not being an ingrate, I will be happy to have them). Maybe I'll see if I can do a better job of compressing them and post them on the web for people to download at their leisure. I don't know about everybody else, but I'm on a phone connection and my mailbox has a 15MB limit. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] thankyou please and thank - Original Message - From: Paul O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Oh, what the hell, can you send me one too...PLASE. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Richard Milkiewicz wrote: Did I miss anyone? This was the 2nd e-mailing.Rich - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
Hey John, I got the email from the Old Car Network yesterday and I was just wondering. With the new sources for stainless trim, can you get drip rail moldings for an 84 El Camino? I tried to reply to that email and it got returned as undeliverable. Paul John Nasta wrote: Just an FYI, these files are huge. I'm d/l-ing them now and have to check my email via web interface because the download is tying up Outlook on me (not being an ingrate, I will be happy to have them). Maybe I'll see if I can do a better job of compressing them and post them on the web for people to download at their leisure. I don't know about everybody else, but I'm on a phone connection and my mailbox has a 15MB limit. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[Chevelle-List] Alternator
-- Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss anyone? This was the 2nd e-mailing. Rich I recieved pages 2 3. Was there a page one? And thank you for the info. rick schaefer 72 El camino http://www.endrud.net/elcamino/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1)
Craig; If you just turned the ignition to ON it will show 12 v. And if you dropped to 10v after connecting the "pig tail", I assume you mean the field wire, thisis normal. The bat. wire may do the same. If you send me your off line address I'll send you an article on how to trouble shoot it. it's 4 pages but also has Ford and Chry. included. Very good article and in laymen terms. I may have to send it in 4 seperate e-mails. Depends on your server. Rich When we turned the ignition to on, it was showing 12 volts on the Alternator and 12 volts on the voltage regulator. After re-attaching the pigtail to the alternator we lost the 12 volts. I found that when the pig tail was disconnected it would show the
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1)
That's Richard for any help. I'm by no means a mechanic. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:38 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1) Craig; If you just turned the ignition to ON it will show 12 v. And if you dropped to 10v after connecting the "pig tail", I assume you mean the field wire, thisis normal. The bat. wire may do the same. If you send me your off line address I'll send you an article on how to trouble shoot it. it's 4 pages but also has Ford and Chry. included. Very good article and in laymen terms. I may have to send it in 4 seperate e-mails. Depends on your server. Rich When we turned the ignition to on, it was showing 12 volts on the Alternator and 12 volts on the voltage regulator. After re-attaching the pigtail to the alternator we lost the 12 volts. I found that when the pig tail was disconnected it would show the
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1)
Craig; If you just turned the ignition to ON it will show 12 v. And if you dropped to 10v after connecting the pig tail, I assume you mean the field wire, thisis normal. The bat. wire may do the same. If you send me your off line address I'll send you an article on how to trouble shoot it. it's 4 pages but also has Ford and Chry. included. Very good article and in laymen terms. I may have to send it in 4 seperate e-mails. Depends on your server. Rich My alternator drops considerably on the gauge when anything is turned onit's a new 78 amp and the battery is two months old as well. I put new cables on the pos and neg to the alt bracket and starter...still does it (goes down to 8 sometimes, especially when it's hot). Can you send that to me as well? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Kelly Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1)
If the volts drops when items are turned on, is a good sign that the regulator is not working. If the alternator is one with a internal regulator, there is a way to check it. Someone will have to help me with this one, because I have on done this in many years. On the back of the alternator there is a small hole, I am not sure where this is located, but you insert a very small screw driver into the hole and press against something inside while run and if the battery show charging (above 12 volts) then it is the regulator. Does anyone know how to do this?? Keith Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kelly C. Hanna To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1) Craig; If you just turned the ignition to ON it willshow 12 v. And if you dropped to 10v after connecting the "pig tail", I assume you mean the field wire, thisisnormal. The bat. wire may do the same. If you send me your off line address I'll send you an article on how totrouble shoot it. it's 4 pages but also has Ford and Chry. included. Very good article and in laymen terms. I mayhave to send it in 4 seperate e-mails. Depends on your server.Rich My alternator drops considerably on the gauge when anything is turned onit's a new 78 amp and the battery is two months old as well. I put new cables on the pos and neg to the alt bracket and starter...still does it (goes down to 8 sometimes, especially when it's hot). Can you send that to me as well? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Kelly Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator Problem(crobertson1)
I would also like to have this article if you don't mind sending it again. :-) Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Kelly C. Hanna" wrote: >Craig; If you just turned the ignition to ON it will >show 12 v. And if you dropped to 10v after connecting the "pig tail", I assume you mean the field wire, this is >normal . The bat. wire may do the same. If you send me your off line address I'll send you an article on how to >trouble shoot it. it's 4 pages but also has Ford and Chry. included. Very good article and in laymen terms. I may >have to send it in 4 seperate e-mails. Depends on your server. >RichMy alternator drops considerably on the gauge when anything is turned onit's a new 78 amp and the battery is two months old as well. I put new cables on the pos and neg to the alt bracket and starter...still does it (goes down to 8 sometimes, especially when it's hot). Can you send that to me as well? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Kelly Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
[Chevelle-List] Alternator Help
List: Here is my problem. When I purchased my 69 ChevelleI had the 396 engine rebuilt. I placed a one wire alternator on it. The alternator came with a large box of parts. We the Alt. went bad. I thought I'd replace it with an original style one. The wiring was still there. I did so yesterday. Hooked up the pigtail plug, red wire in the rear and the negative battery cable to the Alt. Bracket. I took it to my motor guy to check and see if I had everything connected correctly. I found that the Alternator is not charging the battery. My problem is my engine guys say he doesn't not much on the electrical side. Can anyone give me some advise. Does anyone have a diagram as to how the wires are connected (including voltage reg. etc.) Thanks guys and gals.. I'm been trying to get her on the road to enjoy her his summer. I'm now starting to get discouraged. Craig 69SS
Re:[Chevelle-List] Alternator Help
craig There is a wiring diagram here: http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref14.html When you look at the picture that shows the back of the alternator, the yellow (white on your car) goes to the #2 connection. Do you have a meter? What are you reading across the battery with motor off? What is it with motor running? What are you reading from the red terminal; on the back of the alternator to ground? Are you sure that you got the correct alternator? If you try running an internal regulated alternator with the external regulator, you will have problems. Sure hope we can all get you on the road soon. rick -- crobertson1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List: Here is my problem. When I purchased my 69 Chevelle I had the 396 engine rebuilt. I placed a one wire alternator on it. The alternator came with a large box of parts. We the Alt. went bad. I thought I'd replace it with an original style one. The wiring was still there. I did so yesterday. Hooked up the pigtail plug, red wire in the rear and the negative battery cable to the Alt. Bracket. I took it to my motor guy to check and see if I had everything connected correctly. I found that the Alternator is not charging the battery. My problem is my engine guys say he doesn't not much on the electrical side. Can anyone give me some advise. Does anyone have a diagram as to how the wires are connected (including voltage reg. etc.) Thanks guys and gals.. I'm been trying to get her on the road to enjoy her his summer. I'm now starting to get discouraged. Craig 69SS rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Alternator
HiEveryone Maybe someone else has ran into this problem I put tall valve cover on my 327. And now I can't get the alternator to mount on the original bracketthere just isn't enough clearance. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to get a custom one or will a big block bracket fit it.I'm running out of ideas and custom making one sounds like a lot of work when you don't have the right tools. Thanks Jeff
Re: [Chevelle-List] alternator and regulator
Bob W., Thanks for your help on the harness plug and boot issues, I'll check out the sources you suggested. Thanks again Bob Belz Robert, You don't have to cut your harness to disconnect your external voltage regulator. Bob Walton Maryland Chevelle Club - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] alternator and regulator
Robert, You don't have to cut your harness to disconnect your external voltage regulator. A lot of the electrical companies that make harnesses for Muscle Cars and hot rods have an adapter that you plug into your wiring harness. Check with Centec, Painless, Ron Francis, MH, etc. They can also supply you with the rubber boot. These guys don't kill you on shipping like the Chevelle suppliers do. Bob Walton Maryland Chevelle Club - Original Message - From: Robert Belz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] alternator and regulator My alternator on my 71 went south yesterday and I replaced it with another SI type alternator as was on the car. My question is what happens when you have an internally regulated alternator and still have the external regulator hooked up. I found that a previous owner had done this and its been working since I bought the car. I am aware of the Tech article on the conversion (cut and splice) but if this will work no need to cut off the plug and do the splice job. Especially if I decide to go all original again some day. Input any one? Also any listers sell the rubber boot that covers the wire that goes to the battery terminal on the back of the alternator? I don't want to buy a little part and get hosed on shipping and handling from one of the big resto. places. I know it's a GM part I just don't have the part number to get it locally. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] alternator and regulator
My alternator on my 71 went south yesterday and I replaced it with another SI type alternator as was on the car. My question is what happens when you have an internally regulated alternator and still have the external regulator hooked up. I found that a previous owner had done this and its been working since I bought the car. I am aware of the Tech article on the conversion (cut and splice) but if this will work no need to cut off the plug and do the splice job. Especially if I decide to go all original again some day. Input any one? Also any listers sell the rubber boot that covers the wire that goes to the battery terminal on the back of the alternator? I don't want to buy a little part and get hosed on shipping and handling from one of the big resto. places. I know it's a GM part I just don't have the part number to get it locally. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator
Craig, Sounds like someone put a "one wire alternator" or properly called, a self exciting alternator, on your car. Your Chevelle originally came with an external voltage regulator. One popular conversion is to use an internally regulated 10Si, 12Si or CS130. These will all work with the original wiring in the car, with a modification to the wiring at the regulator. There are also adapter plugs for the plug at the regulator so that you do not have to cut up your harness. In your case you have an internal self exciting alternator, probably a 10Si. The only difference in the one wire like yours and the standard three wire is the voltage regualtor. On the one wire or self exciting alt, the voltage sensing and field wires are connected internally to the voltage regulator, hense no external connections (you should see some type of plug where the connector has been removed). On the standard three wire voltage regulator, there will still be the + battery connection stud, and the two wire connector, one wire goes to the dash light (or resistor if you don't have a dash generator light) and the other goes to a place in your wiring to sense voltage for the regulator (most times people just route it to the + battery post.) The problem with the one wire alt is that inorder for the voltage regualtor to turn on, the engine must be reved to approx 1800 rpm, this is to build up enought voltage internally to start or excite the regulator. If you want to make your car original, you will need a 10N alternator and external voltage regulator and the wiring will need to be checked to see if any modifications have been made. If you need any help with this problem, just email me and I will be glad to help. Bob Walton Maryland Chevelle Club - Original Message - From: Craig Cerena Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator After putting my 396 engine in my car I found that the alternator did not have a plug on the side of it. It only has one wire to connect to. I would like to replace with the right one. Is there anything special that I have to look for to find the correct alternator. Thanks Craig 69SS
[Chevelle-List] Alternator
After putting my 396 engine in my car I found that the alternator did not have a plug on the side of it. It only has one wire to connect to. I would like to replace with the right one. Is there anything special that I have to look for to find the correct alternator. Thanks Craig 69SS
Re:[Chevelle-List] Alternator
craig The other connector you need to connect has 2 wires one blue other white. Once you find it, check the orientation of the contacts. Are they like this: -- or like this: = . One is for internal regulated other for external.Unless your 69 has been modified you need an external regulated alternator. Just get the GM alternator that mates to your connector.I also have a vague memory that some may plug into the back others plug into the side near the back. - Craig Cerena Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After putting my 396 engine in my car I found that the alternator did not have a plug on the side of it. It only has one wire to connect to. I would like to replace with the right one. Is there anything special that I have to look for to find the correct alternator. Thanks Craig 69SS rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator/generator test
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Did all the tests you mentioned and discovered that instead of a plastic connector that houses the two wires that plug into the back of the alternator, the connector islong gone and just the two wires are there and slip on individually. One of these wires was not connected. The minute I connected this wire, voltage (running) went from 12.20 to 13.9 to 14.9. I also pulled off the positive battery lead and car stayed running and turned all accessories and still kept running. The dome light was flickering in rhythm to the movements of the wipers. Something is fried on the wipers too, on the low speed they crawl across the windshield very slow and on high speed they come up the windshield a couple inches and just sit there. Also the washer squirters are missing!*Jeff adds them to the list * :) At 01:10 AM 2/22/2002 +, you wrote: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List If it is a 71, it should be an alternator. An old trick is to start the engine and pull the positive terminal off the battery. If the engine quits, there is not enough alternator output to even run the engine. If it keeps running, turn on the lights and anything else that drains a battery. If everything keeps working, then you have a a good alternator output and probably a defective battery. The other way is as mentioned, put a voltmeter on the battery and record the reading. Start up the vehicle and increase engine speed to the maximum voltmeter reading. Usually, it will read between +1 to +2 volts if the output is OK. If nothing happens or it decreases, then it is the alternator-regulator that is probably at fault. If you do have a generator (why I haven't a clue), it has to have current applied to it to make output. So if you have a dead battery, a generator will not work at all until you give it a fully charged battery. Also, it tends to put out nothing at idle and needs higher speed of rotation than an alternator to make current. My guess is that your alternator has a burned out diode and it is shorting out your battery. Usually happens when you try to jumper to a dead battery or get the polarity crossed while jumpering. A large spark occurs and you can kiss one or more diodes goodbye. If you have a good automotive electrical shop around, it is better to rebuild what you have then replacing with a rebuilt from an Autogotcha store. I have bought rebuilt alternators that have had to be completely disassembeled and parts rotated 180 degrees to get them to fit. From: Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Alternator/generator test Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:58:05 -0600 Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Was running my car and turned it off and upon a restart, it failed. Checked the battery and it was dead. It is brand spanking new. Anyway I then looked at the generator and one of the slip-on clips was off. No problem, I pushed it back on but it was difficult and the back of this generator looks pretty nasty. The male leads that the slip-ons attach to look real bad so I am wondering if there is an easy way to put a meter on the generator to verify that it is in fact changing/working? -- Jeff Fischer Lake Elmo, MN '71 Chevelle SS, 454, 4 spd, matching numbers (In process of restoration when spring gets here) :) http://home.attbi.com/~addss/chevelle.html - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Alternator HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
You cannot put an internal regulated Alternator in a car that was wired for an external regulated , that is why you are reading so many volts . However ther is a kit to covert the wiring ,it takes 2mins to do . YEAR ONE sells it part #HU30 goes for $13.95 .Call 1-800-932-7663 STREET HEAT
