New CCNA 1.0 how I did it.

2000-06-04 Thread John Hoeft

I am proud to say that as of Friday I am now a CCNA.  This is my first post
to the list since I now feel I have at least a little something to share.  I
have worked in the computer field for over 13 years mostly in PC hardware
and software for federal government contract and the like, most recently I
have been doing technical sales engineering work.  Three months ago I
decided to start my quest for a few industry certifications and decided that
the CompTia A+ would be a good way to get my feet wet with the whole self
study and Sylvan exam routine.  After three weeks of studying for the A+ I
sat for both Exams on the same day and scored a 93% and 100% respectively on
the two exams.  A+ was really just a good starting point to get me in the
habit of read, study, practice test, study some more, practice test and then
the Exam.  After I passed my A+ exam I decided that the Cisco certifications
I had heard about would be a good route for me to take since I was looking
now for something where I felt that not only would I get a certification but
I would learn something that I could use and build on.  After only a little
research I figured out that the CCNA certification was the best first step
for me.  I purchased the Cisco CCNA Training Kit (100% CD-ROM based).  I
know now that many people rave about Todd's CCNA book but two things kept me
from getting it, one I had yet to discover GroupStudy.Com and two I wanted
to start my foundation of learning with reading how Cisco says things should
be done since CCNA is not my last Cisco certification I plan on getting.
After starting to slowly plow through the Cisco CCNA Training Kit and
reading some of the great things about Todd's CCNA study materials I decided
to use his CCNA Exam Notes for my "Ok here's what you have to know" part of
my self study.  Three quarters of the way through the Cisco materials I
realized I was going to require some sort of router or at a minimum a
simulator if I was going to be able to understand and remember the IOS
commands.  I purchased the Sybex Virtual Lab e-trainer to fill that need
since a Router was not in my budget just yet. After three weeks of reading
through the entire Cisco CCNA Training Kit and insuring that I understood
the OSI Model, IP Subnet's, IP  IPX Access list etc I moved on to a quick
read through of the CCNA Exam Notes and drilling through the Virtual Lab to
make sure I was ready.  I used the final exam feature from the CCNA Training
Kit and took those tests about five times and was scoring in the high 80's
with a low 90 for my last run through. The next day I scheduled my exam for
Friday on which I scored a 844.

I know this message is long but I hope that some of the people that
subscribe to this list that do not already have their CCNA will realize some
benefit from knowing what I did and the materials I used to study for the
exam.

In summary I used:

Cisco CCNA Training Kit (ISBN# 0735708797) highly recommend if you really
want to get it from the horses mouth.  Has very good chapter tests, flash
card and final exam.

Todd Lammle CCNA Exam Notes (ISBN# 0782125352) Very good as a quick run
through for most of you need to know for the exam though you wont pass just
reading this book.

Sybex Virtual Lab e-trainer.  (ISBN # 0782127282 )For me this was a great
program, it helped me learn the commands that were needed for the CCNA exam
by using them for the labs.  Its not router but for $65 what do you expect.

I also realize that I took the 1.0 exam and not the 2.0 exam and that unless
you are a quick study of in a hurry this will be old news in two months.

I am onto studying for my CCNP next.

Thanks to everyone on this list for your great posts , advice and links.
(especially the links to free books and t-shirts!!)

John Hoeft
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BSCN Objectives

2000-06-04 Thread Sawyer, Derrick

Does anyone know where I can find the routing 2.0 objectives?
I checked around cisco's site and was only able to find the ACRC Obj.

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Boooks Needed

2000-06-04 Thread wind

Hiya;

I have books for BCARN from cisco press, is this one enough for
taking the exam?

   thanks in advance
   Vincent



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full meshed ip unnumbered network

2000-06-04 Thread cisco cabanaboy

sorry if i sent this twice, it seems like our mailing
list is having trouble :(

here is the design:


  ETHERNET
 |
   1XXX
   
  /\
 /  \
  2XXX 3XXX
  -
 / \
 ETHERNET   ETHERNET


the three routers are seperated by point to point wan
links, my questions involve the pros/cons of
addressing the wan links using various techniques.

1. make each p2p link its own /30 network
2. make all p2p links use addresses out of the same
pool (i.e. 10.0.0.1, .2, .3, .4, .5, .6)
3. ip unnumbered e0

i think that solutions 2  3 would cause problems if
one link came down, because only a portion of the
subnet is down if you were doing per packet load
balanceing, then every other packet would drop...


as a variation, you colud take the link down between
routers 2  3, and make the other p2p's frame relay
links, then have a logical full mesh using pvc's...


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ATM on CIT ( Support 2.0 ) ??

2000-06-04 Thread kenny

Hi all , 
Are there any question on ATM LANE or ATM in the support 2.0 test ?

THanks
\ken

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Re: Very interesting RIP issue

2000-06-04 Thread Cormac Long

Not sure what the nature of the problem is here, but
here are a couple of points to note:

1. The TTL field is in the IP header and not the UDP
header.

2. The TTL is only decremented after the packet
crosses a router hop ( a switch hop does NOT count).

3. The inital TTL=15, and it gets decremented after
that as it crosses routers. This makes it surprising
that you're seeing TTL=1 or 2. It implies alot of
router hops.

Cormac

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--- Lance Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi group!
 
 I am a lurker at best here, but today I saw
 something that really
 puzzled me.  While I was looking at a trace file I
 noticed something
 unusual about the ttl values for RIP updates on a
 PacketEngines switch.
 This switch is connected to a Cat5000 and I had a
 sniffer in between the
 
 two.
 My understanding of RIP is that the ttl value = 2
 and that it is
 decremented as it enters a switch/router and then it
 is looked at.
 Therefore, a ttl=2 would become ttl=1 before the
 packet is even looked
 at.  If the ttl=1 it would become ttl=0 and then,
 instead of being
 looked at, it would be discarded.  Is this correct?
 First, let me say that the Packet Engines 2200
 switch is a very good box
 
 and it is communicating well with the Cat5k.  The
 RIP updates are being
 handled well by both sides, but;  when looking at
 the sniff, the ttl
 value from the packet Engines box is set to =1.  How
 can this be?
 Do I totally misunderstand the UDP ttl value in
 relationship to RIP?
 Any insights would be helpful.   BTW, I have got a
 call into a
 PacketEngines s/w engineer and am waiting for a
 response.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lance
 
 
 
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Passed MCNS 2.0 (640-442)

2000-06-04 Thread Warwick Vele

Just a quick note to say that I passed MCNS 2.0 yesterday - 848/1000,
passing mark is 708. This had 60 questions in 90 minutes because I did
the test here in Papua New Guinea (you get extra time if you do an exam
outside a "Western" country to get over any language difficulties).
However I finished it in 60 minutes.

Wasn't too difficult but as usual, pay attention to the exam objectives.
I was also fortunate that I work with PIXs, Firewall Feature Set (and
ACLs), NASs and CiscoSecure on a daily basis which really helped. I am
also in the process of implementing a failover for our PIX at work so I
spent some time playing with the commands on that before blowing the
config away and putting it into production.

I was fortunate enough to do the training course with Global Knowledge
(ex Geotrain guys) in Sydney (Aust). Due to the lack of seats (3 only)
at the one testing centre here in PNG I did the exam 6 weeks after
attending the course. For the exam I reviewed the course notes and read
Mireke Kaeo's "Designing Network Security". I think this book, along
with Priscilla's "Top-Down Network Design" are 2 must-have tomes for
anyone setting out to learn about network design.

In line with most of the previous comments about MCNS on this list take
your time and and work out the tricky ones logically.

I've gone a bit arse-about with the order of my exams so unfortunately I
can't use the "+ Security" designation after my CCNA and CCDA but
hopefully this will only be a matter of another few weeks.

Warwick

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BCRAN

2000-06-04 Thread Ken Yeo

Is VPDN and AAA covered in the new BCRAN test?

Thanks!

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Compaq ML370, NC3163 and 3com Superstack II 3300 issues

2000-06-04 Thread Ken Yeo

This is a little bit out of topics but...

I have Compaq ML370 with buildin NIC NC3163 connected to 3com Superstack II
3300 10/100 switch. The server is running Netware 5.1. The status LED for
the port on the switch goes on and off, and I only able to get 25% to 50%
success rates from ping.

I suspect it is the WOL feature or 10/100 auto sensing problems, I so made
the switch port 100baseT only but didn't help. Couldn't find a way to
disable WOL or change 10/100 auto sensing for the NIC.

Any ideas?


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FRS

2000-06-04 Thread Kari Nurdin

Hi Everyone,

I would like to write the FRS or Foundation 2.0 Exam, hopefully by 
September.  I have read and continue to read some of the Cisco Press books 
and using the Boson ACRC and BCRAN test to prepare.

I was wondering does anyone have and suggestions, such as a single book or 
test to prepare for this exam?

Lastly any other suggestions or advice re: this exam would be great.

Thanking you in advance

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Number of cisco certified engineers...

2000-06-04 Thread keith wood

On the Cisco website in the CCIE section (public domain) they give a
breakdown of CCIE's by geographical regions.

Does anyone know how many other Cisco Certified engineers there are
(CCNA/CCDA/CCNP/CCDP), or is the a link on the Cisco web site I have missed?

Just wondering...

Keith ;-)


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Setting up a Cisco VPN 17XX Router

2000-06-04 Thread AABAN34


  Hello, I have a Cisco 1750 router here at the office and want to be able to 
setup VPN services from the Internet comining into my Cisco 1750 router, does 
anyone have a sample config of one. I am having my user going to start using 
VPN over then just dialing into the RAS box to cut down long distance calling 
into the office. I haved looked on the WEB for sample config's but there not 
that I could find? I even looked ont the Cisco site nothing.


Thank


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Re: Networkers in Florida

2000-06-04 Thread Fred Nielsen

Too bad Chuck, looks like I'm tagged for Las Vegas instead, otherwise I'd be
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Re: full meshed ip unnumbered network

2000-06-04 Thread Michael Fountain

I don't think the second solution would work to well if you tried to put all 
of the interfaces in the same network space, but 1 and 3 should be ok.

I'm not too sure where the worry about load balancing comes in since each 
router only has one direct hop to the other.  There should only be one link 
to a destination at a time in this design.  If a link goes down, it will 
take the two-hop route.

The meshed frame-relay solution is how we do it where I work, but PTP versus 
FR is mostly a matter of cost and what you need the circuit to do.


here is the design:


   ETHERNET
  |
1XXX

   /\
  /  \
   2XXX 3XXX
   -
  / \
  ETHERNET   ETHERNET


the three routers are seperated by point to point wan
links, my questions involve the pros/cons of
addressing the wan links using various techniques.

1. make each p2p link its own /30 network
2. make all p2p links use addresses out of the same
pool (i.e. 10.0.0.1, .2, .3, .4, .5, .6)
3. ip unnumbered e0

i think that solutions 2  3 would cause problems if
one link came down, because only a portion of the
subnet is down if you were doing per packet load
balanceing, then every other packet would drop...


as a variation, you colud take the link down between
routers 2  3, and make the other p2p's frame relay
links, then have a logical full mesh using pvc's...


Comments please..



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804 ios upgrade

2000-06-04 Thread Steve Kalman

Hi folks,

I bought my 804 about a year ago when Cisco was offering the special deal
that so many of us accepted.  I'm now more interested in security than I
once was, and would like to upgrade the IOS to include the firewall feature
set.

I currently have this:


Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C800 Software (C800-G3-MW), Version 12.0(1)XB1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 30-Dec-98 13:34 by ayeh


And would like to acquire 12.0(4)T, which I understand has the FFS

I sent an email to customer service but they forwarded it to the TAC. I
don't have a TAC account.

Can anyone advise me as to how I can go about upgrading? If there are any
distributors on the list who would be interested in helping me out, I'd
welcome a private email.


Steve


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RE: Very interesting RIP issue

2000-06-04 Thread Travis Gamble

Actually Lance was referring to a RIP packet, and it would make sense that a
RIP packet would begin with an extremely low TTL field (of either 1 or 2) so
that it would only be propagated to neighboring routers.  You wouldn't want
a routing update to go any further than that.

Travis Gamble

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Cormac Long
Sent: June 4, 2000 7:14 AM
To: Lance Simon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Very interesting RIP issue


Not sure what the nature of the problem is here, but
here are a couple of points to note:

1. The TTL field is in the IP header and not the UDP
header.

2. The TTL is only decremented after the packet
crosses a router hop ( a switch hop does NOT count).

3. The inital TTL=15, and it gets decremented after
that as it crosses routers. This makes it surprising
that you're seeing TTL=1 or 2. It implies alot of
router hops.

Cormac

Cormac Long, CCSI#21600
http://www.cormaclong.com

--- Lance Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi group!

 I am a lurker at best here, but today I saw
 something that really
 puzzled me.  While I was looking at a trace file I
 noticed something
 unusual about the ttl values for RIP updates on a
 PacketEngines switch.
 This switch is connected to a Cat5000 and I had a
 sniffer in between the

 two.
 My understanding of RIP is that the ttl value = 2
 and that it is
 decremented as it enters a switch/router and then it
 is looked at.
 Therefore, a ttl=2 would become ttl=1 before the
 packet is even looked
 at.  If the ttl=1 it would become ttl=0 and then,
 instead of being
 looked at, it would be discarded.  Is this correct?
 First, let me say that the Packet Engines 2200
 switch is a very good box

 and it is communicating well with the Cat5k.  The
 RIP updates are being
 handled well by both sides, but;  when looking at
 the sniff, the ttl
 value from the packet Engines box is set to =1.  How
 can this be?
 Do I totally misunderstand the UDP ttl value in
 relationship to RIP?
 Any insights would be helpful.   BTW, I have got a
 call into a
 PacketEngines s/w engineer and am waiting for a
 response.

 Thanks,

 Lance



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Runts and Giants

2000-06-04 Thread Sam Kadidalhopper

I didn't see an adequate answer to this question so here is my take,
Runts are most often seen after a switch when the switch is doing cut-thru 
and detects a bad packet. It will truncate the packet, ( however since the 
first part of the packet is on the wire already you now have a runt)and then 
is supposed to back send a jam-burst out the incoming port if the coruption 
was due to a colision detection, to alert affected transmitters of the 
detected colision.

Often times I also see late colisions somewhere on the network. If this is 
true then determine where the ethernet rules may be broken (I know a switch 
is a violation just being there) and causing your problems to show up. 
Happens most in over extended 100MHz. networks.

A giant has more possibilities, usually a colision, or mismatch of allowable 
packet length or setting, or an allowable long packet hitting a device 
unable to handle long packets, or a jabbering NIC.

Checking for these combination of problems will generally lead to the true 
source of the problem which probably isn't the new Novell server.

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RE: full meshed ip unnumbered network

2000-06-04 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Let's look at the alternatives in detail. Comments below

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cisco cabanaboy
Sent:   Saturday, June 03, 2000 8:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:full meshed ip unnumbered network

here is the design:


  ETHERNET
 |
   1XXX
   
  /\
 /  \
  2XXX 3XXX
  -
 / \
 ETHERNET   ETHERNET


the three routers are seperated by point to point wan
links, my questions involve the pros/cons of
addressing the wan links using various techniques.

1. make each p2p link its own /30 network

CL: no problem. Common solution

2. make all p2p links use addresses out of the same
pool (i.e. 10.0.0.1, .2, .3, .4, .5, .6)

CL: with point to point links this would be difficult to achieve. You would
have one link per serial interface. Essentially, you would have to give each
interface a 32 bit mask, meaning that in effect all the serial ports would
be on different networks as far as the routing table is concerned.

If, on the other hand, you had a frame relay partial mesh ( hub and spoke ),
this would indeed be one way of doing things. Each pvc would be associated
with a single IP, all of which could be on the same network. If you had a
frame relay full mesh, with two pvc's per site, and you are not using
subinterfaces, then you should be able to do this. I won't state that
emphatically, because I have never tested this, instead choosing to go the
subinterface route in a full mesh. ( I worked in small companies. What can I
say? )

2. ip unnumbered e0

CL: another common way of doing things. Very clean, and saves on IP
addresses.

i think that solutions 2  3 would cause problems if
one link came down, because only a portion of the
subnet is down if you were doing per packet load
balanceing, then every other packet would drop...

CL: except that if a link is down, your routing protocol should discover
that, and send all packets out the only good interface. You are using
something other than RIP, are you not? :-


as a variation, you colud take the link down between
routers 2  3, and make the other p2p's frame relay
links, then have a logical full mesh using pvc's...

CL: cheaper, but be aware of the issues with frame relay.


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question?

2000-06-04 Thread Kohposh Kuda


can anybody tell me whether what books should i use to study CCNA 2.0 ( #640-507)? Is 
the second ed. of CCNA Study Guide by Lammle enough or should i get any other books?

please advice?

kohposh.
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Re: OSPF vs ISIS

2000-06-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

It looks to me that everybody prefers OSPF in our
company, just wondering any reasons that we do not
want to use ISIS?

Thanks

Kent


For enterprise networks, there is no particular benefit to using 
ISIS.  Many of the large ISPs do use it, in many cases for historical 
reasons.  There are some cases where ISIS may have less overhead on 
the router than OSPF.  Several vendors are deploying traffic 
engineering first with ISIS, but that is as much because their 
initial ISP customers have ISIS reasons as anything else.

I'll be doing an ISIS tutorial next week at NANOG, and it will be 
posted under the notes for the June 2000 meeting at www.nanog.org

On a practical certification basis, anyone that's aiming for the ISP 
market should know this protocol.

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Re: 804 ios upgrade

2000-06-04 Thread Brad Ellis

Steve,

Hi!  You need to purchase the firewall feature set...you may also need to
increase your memory (flash/DRAM).

-Brad
""Steve Kalman"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hi folks,

 I bought my 804 about a year ago when Cisco was offering the special deal
 that so many of us accepted.  I'm now more interested in security than I
 once was, and would like to upgrade the IOS to include the firewall
feature
 set.

 I currently have this:


 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C800 Software (C800-G3-MW), Version 12.0(1)XB1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
 Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 30-Dec-98 13:34 by ayeh


 And would like to acquire 12.0(4)T, which I understand has the FFS

 I sent an email to customer service but they forwarded it to the TAC. I
 don't have a TAC account.

 Can anyone advise me as to how I can go about upgrading? If there are any
 distributors on the list who would be interested in helping me out, I'd
 welcome a private email.


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Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Chad A. Simmons, MCSE

I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
(real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to
me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

Best Regards,
Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Brad Ellis

Chad,

With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still need
to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to
get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay
OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.

Keep chugging along!
-Brad
""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
 (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
 experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
 persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low
to
 me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

 Best Regards,
 Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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Re: Compaq ML370, NC3163 and 3com Superstack II 3300 issues

2000-06-04 Thread Ken Yeo

Chuck,

If it is plug into a 10baseT hub, it works fine. We tried all the ports in
the switch, but it didn't work. The switch ports are good because they work
with other servers. We also know it is not the patch cable problem.

Thanks.

Cheers!

Ken Yeo
MCSE, CNE, CCNA
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Ken Yeo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: Compaq ML370, NC3163 and 3com Superstack II 3300 issues


 Sounds a little like a loop problem.  I have had similar issues when I
have
 misconfigured routers, and created a loop.

 Are there more than these devices in your network? I.e. the server and the
 PC plugged into different switches, or into the same switch?

 Otherwise, have you tried plugging into a different port on the switch? It
 could be you have a faulty port.

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ken
 Yeo
 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Compaq ML370, NC3163 and 3com Superstack II 3300 issues

 This is a little bit out of topics but...

 I have Compaq ML370 with buildin NIC NC3163 connected to 3com Superstack
II
 3300 10/100 switch. The server is running Netware 5.1. The status LED for
 the port on the switch goes on and off, and I only able to get 25% to 50%
 success rates from ping.

 I suspect it is the WOL feature or 10/100 auto sensing problems, I so made
 the switch port 100baseT only but didn't help. Couldn't find a way to
 disable WOL or change 10/100 auto sensing for the NIC.

 Any ideas?


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RE: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Ryan Ward

FYI...

I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got
jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have
a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little
experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises.

-Ryan



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brad Ellis
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries


Chad,

With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still need
to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to
get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay
OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.

Keep chugging along!
-Brad
""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
 (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
 experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
 persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low
to
 me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

 Best Regards,
 Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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RE: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread JL

It will depend on where you are locatedjust like real estate. If you
really want to compare, compare with people in your area, that will be the
only accurate measure.

JL

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brad Ellis
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries


Chad,

With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still need
to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to
get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay
OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.

Keep chugging along!
-Brad
""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
 (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
 experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
 persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low
to
 me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

 Best Regards,
 Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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Re: Number of cisco certified engineers...

2000-06-04 Thread Barry Hofland

Here's the pace to be;
Or just type www.cisco.com/go/ccie and see Population

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html


Barry

"Michael L. Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
8he789$qm0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8he789$qm0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Could you post a link to that site.  I'd like to see the breakdown of CCIE
 by region.

 TIA,

 Mike Williams

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  On the Cisco website in the CCIE section (public domain) they give a
  breakdown of CCIE's by geographical regions.
 
  Does anyone know how many other Cisco Certified engineers there are
  (CCNA/CCDA/CCNP/CCDP), or is the a link on the Cisco web site I have
 missed?
 
  Just wondering...
 
  Keith ;-)
 
 
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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread John Wu

$29k is very low in the IT industry.

Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should be making 40-50k

It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each other.

- Original Message -
From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM
Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries


 I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
 (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
 experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
 persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low
to
 me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

 Best Regards,
 Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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Cat 2901 for sale - UK only

2000-06-04 Thread Andy Harding




Anyone interested in a Catalyst 2901 for lab 
study?

"Classic" Catalyst command line as per Cat 
5000/5500, 600/6500. Supervisor I with 2 X 100-base-T/MII, line card with 
12 X 10/100-base-T. Supports VLANs, ISL, trunking, FEC, etc.

Great lab switch - sad to sell but have 6509s with 
MSFC cards at work now and a VAT bill to pay ;-)

Offers aroung £1000 ono

Andy


Re: Subnetting

2000-06-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Are Ethernet LAN interfaces and Serial WAN interfaces by definition on
different subnets on the same router, ex. 2501 (e0, s0, s1).  I tried
putting them on the same subnet and got an overlapping error?


Yes.

In fact, you can't put more than one router interface of the same 
type (e.g., Ethernet0 and Ethernet 1) on the same subnet.

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E-trainer from Sybex

2000-06-04 Thread Jose L. Vivanco Sr



Hi,

I started using Sybex e-trainer. When I 
attempted to configured networks using netmasks for subnets,
such as for example 240, 248, 224 etc.the 
trainer would give me an error. It would accept, however, 
masks
for full class networks such as 255.255.255.0, or 
255.255.0.0...Am I doing something wrong or the system
can not handle subnetting?

Does anyone knows?

Thanks,

José
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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Subnetting

2000-06-04 Thread Travis Payton

Are Ethernet LAN interfaces and Serial WAN interfaces by definition on
different subnets on the same router, ex. 2501 (e0, s0, s1).  I tried
putting them on the same subnet and got an overlapping error?


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RE: issues with HSRP

2000-06-04 Thread Gerwin Boschloo

Nonsense, the routers do not look in each others config to get HSRP working.
When HSRP is working, it checks to see if the primary router is online, in
your case it checks to see if the primary is up and running. When the
primairy fails it takes over the "shared"  address.nothing more (nothing
less). So when you virtual ip adres changes to the other blade, the other
config is used.

Oh when VLAN 1 was shutdown, HSRP will never use that interface.in
fact...HSRP will not be running on that interface.

Be aware that in a 6006 with MSFC's both MSFC's are online (also when 1
supervisor engine is switched off) so when you are bridging VLANS.take
care of the spanning tree.

Gerwin

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 3:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: issues with HSRP


Greetings

I implemented HSRP on my Catalyst 6006 w/ redundant Supervisor/MSFCs.
 I did a failover test - and it performed well - the redundant Supe
failed over and everything seemed to work fine.

However, when the promeary Supe came back online - some things did
not work right.  Mainly, bridging of LU6.2 traffic failed.

I called Cisco, and they said that with HSRP, both router configs
must be the same (in my case, VLAN 1 was shutdown on one of the
routers).  

Does anyone have any insight on this?  Do the router configs have to
be EXACTLY the same - line by line?  Does anyone know of any tools to
sync the configs. (I have just started playing with resource manager
essentials).

TIA

Don Dettmore
Lead Network Engineer
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Re: ATM on CIT ( Support 2.0 ) ??

2000-06-04 Thread Lauren Child


 
 Hi all , 
 Are there any question on ATM LANE or ATM in the support 2.0 test ?
 
 THanks
 \ken


Took the clasxs two weeks ago and there was a whole one page on ATM. 
The instructor glanced over it and said not to bother with it - go on a
CATM course if you want to know more, so Im pretty confident its not on
the test :)

The bit itself was just the output from a show interface command on an
ATM interface.  Basically it seems CRC errors are a bad thing (shock
horror :)

TTFN
Lauren

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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Michael L. Williams

I agree with Brad the your best bet is to "Keep chugging along", get some
more experience under belt.

However, Brad, I don't think Chad was wanting to be told that he "deserves"
$150K/yr for his certs.

Although I also agree with another person that responded, that it depends on
where you are, I still think $29K/yr is low for MSCE/CCNA/CCDA *anywhere*.
Just to give you an idea, I live in a college town of around 65,000 (100,000
with students included), and someone with MSCE could easily get a job around
here for $40K/yr or more.  I know a MSCE in the St. Louis area will pull in
at least $45K/yr.  My brother-in-law in St. Louis with only about 6 months
of PC/Network Support experience, who got his CCNA about a month ago (he
also has MCSE) just landed a job with a Fortune 500 company @
$60K/yr.

If you have MSCE/CCNA/CCDA, and you're only getting $29K/yr, find a new
employer.  If no one in your area is willing to pay more, move to a new
city!

IMHO, Cisco certs are virtually worthless in small towns (100,000 or less)
because the demand is so low (i.e. there may only be 5-10 positions in the
whole town for someone Cisco Certified) compared to larger cities (500,000
or above).  MSCE/CNE are definitely helpful in those same small towns
(100,000 or less), but are almost a dime a dozen in larger cities (500,00 or
above).

My 2 cents =)

Mike W.

"Brad Ellis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Chad,

 With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still
need
 to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard
to
 get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't
pay
 OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
 experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.

 Keep chugging along!
 -Brad
 ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
  (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
  experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
  persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems
low
 to
  me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.
 
  Best Regards,
  Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
 
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RE: VLAN Trunk traffic question

2000-06-04 Thread Gerwin Boschloo

I don't think so. A trunk type is just a tag type and has nothing to do with
the traffic inside it. When you configure VLAN's, you split up your network
into broadcast domains. So I think that you will have less traffic on a
trunk than you have without the trunks. Beware that when you (in the router)
bridge between the VLAN's, the amount of traffic will be increased because a
broadcast on VLAN 1 will also appear in VLAN 2.so this broadcast will be
twice inside the trunk.

I hope this helps,

Gerwin

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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLAN Trunk traffic question


ISL and done deal-

John Neiberger wrote:

 Ok, I'm suffering from a brain cloud at the moment.  So, willing to suffer
 the comic flames and arrows, I ask the following question:

 Assume we have three switches: A, B, and C.  A has a fast ethernet
 connection to B and another to C.  B and C are not directly connected.  At
 this point, these are not trunk lines and they are in the same VLAN.  That
 means only traffic destined for B goes down the line to B, and traffic
 destined for C goes to C.

 Now, if I were to make both of those connections trunk lines, either ISL
or
 802.1q, would I still have only B-destined traffic going to B or would
that
 trunk be passing all traffic for that entire VLAN up to B even though
 C-destined traffic is a waste of bandwidth on the B trunk?

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Password recovery on Cat 2924 XL ?

2000-06-04 Thread Phil Barker

Hi,
  Has anyone got a cisco link for this. I've found
various links on cisco.com when searching for
'password recovery' but cannot find anything explicit
for this switch.

I've tried the standard IOS technique but cannot get
to Rom monitor mode.

I managed to guess about the hard-switch on the front
but it takes me to a mode that I don't understand.

Cheers,

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BGP + OSPF Training...

2000-06-04 Thread Nimesh Vakharia


Any suggestions on a training instiute in NY for BGP + OSPF

I am aware of LearningTree.com and CCCI.com... Anyone have any
recommendation/experience regarding their program?

thanks,

Nimesh.


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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Kevin Wigle

I think you are a perfect example of the difference between having certs,
having experience and having certs and experience.

I started out in the Unix track 12 years ago, I don't have any Unix certs.
Before that I had about 8 years on PCs.

Then I moved into the Banyan world and got all their certs. (CBS, CBI, CBE).

Although I was quite the Banyan Bigot, I wasn't blind.  I got my MCSE 5
years ago and I was employed in jobs that used Unix/Banyan/NT.

Two years ago I saw that MCSE was getting to be a paper cert, I didn't like
that and started to study Cisco. Last year I got the CCNA/CCDA.  I was
extremely lucky to land a contract where I used Cisco equipment 5 days a
week eight hours a day for appx 5 months.  Not just getting a little hands
on but I had a rack of 6 routers and a couple of switches where I did
configuration verification and design.  Not bad for a CCNA/CCDA.

In the last 2 months I have taken and passed CLSC/CMTD/ACRC (I woke one day
and put myself on a schedule).  I am now 1 exam away from CCNP and one exam
away from CCDP.

So, you have a bunch of certs, I have a bunch of certs - what's the
difference?
About 20 years in the industry.

In your case you did not mention if you take leadership roles or if you
perform junior tasks.  Changing tapes with a PhD doesn't mean you get paid
big bucks, you're still changing tapes.

However, if you are doing the leadership roles like planning a migration of
a large company (with the paper work that entails) and then leading the team
that does it then no matter what your age or length of time in the industry,
you should be getting paid for it if you do it.

I'm not trying to put you down at all, once you get the time in and get the
leadership type of roles, the money will follow.

Another factor of course is location.  Someone in a big city is going to
make more than the guy in a small town.  But then again, the big city guy
will have higher cost of living expenses too.

Get more experience, in that experience try to get more senior roles.  If
necessary move to a larger market.

Everything will follow after that.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 04 June, 2000 15:00
Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries


 I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
 (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
 experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
 persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low
to
 me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

 Best Regards,
 Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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RE: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases?

2000-06-04 Thread Bartlett, DS1

There are ways of making Cisco Gold partners pay for your training.  I have
a good working relationship with my Cisco Sales Manager and she suggested
that after a large purchase is made, convince the Gold or Silver partner
that if some training is not apart of the package you will use a different
vendor.  Get a couple quotes from different vendors to make sure you are not
slitting your throat.  What the company will do, like Federal Data Corp.,
they will contact Global Knowledge, and get a certificate for a week long
course for which you can redeem for training.  The Gold partners make an
awful lot of money and an arrangement between companies (FDC and GK) is a
lot different than arrangement between customer and Global Knowledge.  Once
you have your sales or marketing person convinced you will take your
business elsewhere you are the winning customer.  Just make sure you don't
have critical time constraints because this could take some negotiation.

Review:  Finalize your quote with vendor.  Then tack on training coupons, or
threaten to go elsewhere.

Good Luck,
Ciao,
Daryn P. Bartlett

-Original Message-
From:   Billy Monroe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $
purchases?

The company I worked for also spent big US$ on Cisco products:
The only training they allowed for Gold Partners were 2 days
hands-on that
it happened every 3 or 4 months.
Knowledge is the real power and they don't give that for free.
That's why I
think I will have to manage to pay training by myself...




""Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Ditto!

 My site just spent 3.5 MILLION dollars on switches and 3 years
prior spent
 6.2 MILLION on Top of the Line routers. Cisco will give you all
kinds of
 neat toys, (Hats, Shirts, mugs etc.) BUT no training. Both times,
our
 purchase was part of a group order that totaled 15 mil, and 24
mil,
 respectively. Cisco moved away from the training provider business
years
 back. They will highly recommend any of their training partners
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 -Original Message-
 From: Lance Hubbard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $
purchases?


 Mark,

 About 9 months ago, I bought $400K worth of Catalyst switches for
a
project.

   The people I was working for were one of Cisco's OLDEST and most
faithful
 customers.I tried negociating with my Cisco Rep for a class
for each
 member of my team, but because they entrust their customer
technical
 training to the likes of Globalknowledge, CCTI and CCCI, he
couldn't hook
me

 up.  Cisco does provide internal training classes, but because of
the fact
 that much of the material used in them is company proprietary,
they are
 usually paraniod about letting outsiders attend.

 Cheers,

 Lance

 From: "Mark Holloway" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases?
 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:51:48 -0500
 
 Has anyone here experienced Cisco giving away free training
vouchers to
 corporations who purchase large amounts of Cisco product?  For
example,
at
 the company I work for I'm in the process of migrating from 3Com
LAN/WAN
 equipment to Cisco.  We spent approximately $600,000 on Cisco
gear.  3
 years ago when we purchased the 3Com equipment they supplied us
with
 "training vouchers" for certified 3Com courses.  Has anyone had
this
happen

 with Cisco?  If so, could you please list the name of your
company (if
you
 wouldn't mind).. My local Cisco rep. will provide me with some
training
if
 I can let him know who Cisco has done this for in the past.
 
 Regards,
 Mark
 



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RE: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Brad Beck

That amount of money is not a lot for the Peninsula or South Bay...

-Brad


At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote:
3com in Milpitas pays that much?  Dang..

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Ryan Ward
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries


FYI...

I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got
jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have
a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little
experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises.

-Ryan



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brad Ellis
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries


Chad,

With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still need
to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to
get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay
OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.

Keep chugging along!
-Brad
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 I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
 (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
 experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
 persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low
to
 me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.

 Best Regards,
 Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA

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Re: Bridging ?

2000-06-04 Thread Andy Harding

not a real useful reply Gerwin...

certain schenarios call for this technology - mainly for legacy IBM-type
networking (in my experience) - SNA and the like.  I don't have a whole lot
of experience doing this in a LAN environment but have done a bunch of DLSw+
stuff.

Also here is DECNet, LAT, NetBIOS and the like, so there is call for this
stuff, perticularly in Banking-type places where there is a large amount of
established mini/main-frame type investment where moving away from the
bomb-proof data-processing framework is more expensive than doing a little
clever networking...

best of luck - if you learn this you'll most likely never have to use it,
but if you don't then sooner or later it's going to come along and bite you
in the arse;-)

take care

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Gerwin Boschloo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Nathan Cruz' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: Bridging ?


 it is very important, I see it every day!!!

 Gerwin

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Bridging ?


 I'm studying Bridging and I was wondering how important this technology
is.
 Not in terms of knowing it for the test but I was wondering how much it is
 used in the real world(using a router as a bridge). With dedicated
switches
 becoming inexpensive would you find this in much use anymore(other than
 maybe translational bridging)? Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

 Nathan

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Re: How to make redundancy using BGP?

2000-06-04 Thread Andy Harding

I work for a european ISP as a network engineer and get this kind of cr*p
all the time

If you are SERIOUS about redundancy the go get an AS# and some PI (Provider
Independant) space from ARIN, etc - multi-home with two ISPs, take a full
routing table, advertise your own routes, AS#, etc.  ie take a transit
agreement (as opposed to a peering agreement which is something else
entirely)

There is no way in the world that two providers are going to sync up private
AS #s - in fact they couldn't do it as it would mean they would both be
advertising the same address space as a part of their native AS# which you
know can't be done.

I'm a little hazy about DNS/bind but if you must have two PA (Provider
Aggregate) address spaces from two providers then I believe that you can
equally weight the two entries to resolve out alternately, although this is
potentially a nightmare from the tracerouting/symetrical routing standpoint
as DNS may well reolve ut differently each time.  (not entirely sure about
this one - quite happy to be shot down if someone can out me straight)

HTH

Andy
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From: Eric Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: How to make redundancy using BGP?


 Hi Daniel,

 There are two way to do it:

 1. the two ISP to agree on assign you a private BGP no. (I remember it
 should be 65xxx, could someone let me know) and run BGP.  Info. as follow:
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/cisco/mkt/ios/nat/tech/emios_wp.htm

 2. using route-map to map diff. next-hop address to diff. NAT pool.  This
 should work fine except I have problem with the icmp message (can't ping
 from inside to outside).

 Good luck, Eric

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  The following problem has obsessed me a long time:
 
  Our company has two ISPs, thus we have two links to internet, and each
one
  assign their own IP blocks to us. now we want to have redundancy so when
 one
  link is down, we can use another link for a mission-critical server to
  continue to run.
 
  my question is:
  1)Do we have to have our  own Internic assigned AS number so we could
run
  BGP to "advertise" to the Internet that we have more than one route to
the
  Internet?
 
  2)Can we use an IP address assigned from our ISPs or Do we have to have
 our
  own IP in order to meet the requirement?
 
  Any help greatly appretiated!
  Thanks in advance
  Daniel
  CCNA
 
 
 
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Fw: OSPF vs ISIS

2000-06-04 Thread Andy Harding

 try hiring staff with IS-IS experience...;-)
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:08 PM
 Subject: OSPF vs ISIS
 
 
  It looks to me that everybody prefers OSPF in our
  company, just wondering any reasons that we do not
  want to use ISIS?
  
  Thanks
  
  Kent
  
  
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Re: ask for help on DHCP

2000-06-04 Thread Gary Frye

Yep, all you need is to configure the Helper address (ip helper-address
[address]) command on Router1, and as long as Router1 has route to LAN3
(whether by static or routing protocol...  and Router3 has route back to
LAN1).

See, Router1 will take the DHCP broadcasts and convert them into unicast
packets and send them directed to LAN3.  For the "address" argument in the
command you can use the specific IP of the DHCP server or use the broadcast
address for that network (192.168.100.255).

garyf
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Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 8:52 PM
Subject: ask for help on DHCP


 Dear gang,

 I have the following situation.

 Ethernet LAN1Router1---Router2(TokenRing
 LAN1)-Router3-Ethernet LAN3
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
  Router4
 Router4


 Let 's say Ethernet LAN1 has the ip segment 192.168.1.*/24,
 Ethernet LAN3 has the IP segment 192.168.100.*/24,
 I want the clients on Ethernet LAN1 can get ip address from
 DHCP server located in Ethernet LAN3 automatically.  Can I get it to
 reality? I do only need to configure the IP helper address for Ethernet
 interface on the router1, don't I? Or I need to configure something on
 router1, 2, 3?

 Thanks in advance,
 Cai, land






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Fw: issues with HSRP

2000-06-04 Thread Andy Harding



 Don,

 what Cisco are telling you is rubbish - if you have the exact same configs
 on both MSFCs then nothing will work - you can't have the same IP
addresses
 on the physical cards, same priorities, both with/without  preempt, etc...

 I run 6509s with MSFCs with 100+ HSRP sessions per card with no problems -
 except when the backplane of a chassis blew up on me :-(  It really
doesn't
 matter what the configs are so long as the VLAN #s and group #s match, the
 priorities are different, and the cards can see the keepalives (enable the
 appropriate vlans on the uplinks if you're running HSRP between switches).

 Don't know what LU6.2 is but HSRP is an IP L3 thing so I don't quite get
 where bridging fits with that - maybe DLSW+-type thing?  Failover at L2
 needs to be STP-based...

 If you want to nominate a particular card as primary come what may, you
need
 the preempt on the end of the priority statement, so that if the lower
prio
 card is live and the primary comes back after a failure it will take it
back
 from the secondary.

 Don't know of any tools for this - prefer doing it manually as the two-way
 syncing of the Sups throws me as I never know for sure which way it will
 go...

 let me know how you get on

 Andy


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 From: Don Dettmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:26 PM
 Subject: issues with HSRP


  Greetings
 
  I implemented HSRP on my Catalyst 6006 w/ redundant Supervisor/MSFCs.
   I did a failover test - and it performed well - the redundant Supe
  failed over and everything seemed to work fine.
 
  However, when the promeary Supe came back online - some things did
  not work right.  Mainly, bridging of LU6.2 traffic failed.
 
  I called Cisco, and they said that with HSRP, both router configs
  must be the same (in my case, VLAN 1 was shutdown on one of the
  routers).
 
  Does anyone have any insight on this?  Do the router configs have to
  be EXACTLY the same - line by line?  Does anyone know of any tools to
  sync the configs. (I have just started playing with resource manager
  essentials).
 
  TIA
 
  Don Dettmore
  Lead Network Engineer
  Fiserv - CBS Worldwide
  (407) 513-5236
 
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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #376

2000-06-04 Thread Latchezar STAMENOV

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Re: Password recovery on Cat 2924 XL ?

2000-06-04 Thread Andy Harding

search on "password recovery 2924XL"

or

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/10.html

or

Catalyst 2900XL and 3500XL Password Recovery

Unplug the power cord from the back of the switch.
While holding down the "Mode" button, reconnect the power cord to the
switch. You can release the "Mode" button a second or two after the LED
above Port 1 x goes off.
Enter the flash_init command.
The baud rate of the console port has now been reset to 9600; if your
console stops working, reset its baud rate to 9600 as well.
Enter the load_helper command.
Enter the dir flash: command.
Rename the configuration file; from "config.text" to "config.old", for
example. Do this by entering the rename flash:config.text flash:config.old
command.
Boot the system with the boot command.
Enter "N" when promted to start the Setup program.
Enter "N" when asked if you want to continue with the configuration.
Enter "en" at the switch prompt.
Rename the configuration file with the rename flash:config.old
flash:config.text command.
Copy the configuration file in to memory using the copy flash:config.text
system:running-config. Press Return in response to the two confirmation
prompts.
The configuration file is now loaded, and you can configure a new password
normally:

Enter the config terminal command.
Enter the enable password [new_password] command.
Write the running configuration to the configuration file using the write
mem command.

have done this and it works!!

take care

Andy
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Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:08 PM
Subject: Password recovery on Cat 2924 XL ?


 Hi,
   Has anyone got a cisco link for this. I've found
 various links on cisco.com when searching for
 'password recovery' but cannot find anything explicit
 for this switch.

 I've tried the standard IOS technique but cannot get
 to Rom monitor mode.

 I managed to guess about the hard-switch on the front
 but it takes me to a mode that I don't understand.

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Re: new version of 802.1q?

2000-06-04 Thread Joe Martin



I was originally told that when the 802.1q spec was released 
that it only supported 1 STP period. I was then told and have seen some 
docs that said that this was changed to one STP per vlan.

JOE
CCIE 5917


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  have been having (semi) argument at work about 
  dot1q versus ISL
  
  my understanding is that dot 1q runs one instance 
  of spanning tree per trunk, rather than per vlan as ISL does - hence if one 
  VLAN is blocking then dot1q disablesthe entire trunk
  
  A collegue of mine reckons that dot 1q now does 
  as per ISL and runs STP on a per-vlan basis, but the 802.1q spec has changed 
  without the # changing
  
  someone help me out here...
  
  thanks
  
  Andy
  
  


Re: BGP question

2000-06-04 Thread Apoorva S.Malavia

I come from an ISP  background. Most ISP's won't do that. In fact, i
haven't seen it done without BGP.




Jim Bond wrote:

 Hello,

 My customer wants to use 2 ISPs but he doesn't want to
 run BGP. Can I do the following:
 1. Have 2 ISPs put static route, pointing to my
 customer, in their routers, one of them has lower
 distance. And have ISPs advertise my customer's
 routes.
 2. Configure 2 default gateway on my customer side,
 one with lower distance.
 Will it work?
 Thanks in advance.

 Jim

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Re: CCDA Site

2000-06-04 Thread William Wong

Is this the one you are looking for?

http://www.rohlin.com/helpdesk/ccda.htm
http://www.networkking.net/ccda
http://thetestpage.net


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  I accidentally delete an email that I received from the study group site
 related to a Cisco CCDA site. I have looked in my browser cache and I
can't
 locate it. Would it be possible if yoe could send me the email of link to
 that site. I do appreciate anything you can do for me. Thanks...

 FYI: The only thing I can remeber is that it was a Cisco site...

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Re: Number of cisco certified engineers...

2000-06-04 Thread Michael L. Williams

Thanks!

Mike

"Barry Hofland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Here's the pace to be;
 Or just type www.cisco.com/go/ccie and see Population

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html


 Barry

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  Could you post a link to that site.  I'd like to see the breakdown of
CCIE
  by region.
 
  TIA,
 
  Mike Williams
 
  "keith wood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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   On the Cisco website in the CCIE section (public domain) they give a
   breakdown of CCIE's by geographical regions.
  
   Does anyone know how many other Cisco Certified engineers there are
   (CCNA/CCDA/CCNP/CCDP), or is the a link on the Cisco web site I have
  missed?
  
   Just wondering...
  
   Keith ;-)
  
  
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Re: i want to know the maximun routing table entries.

2000-06-04 Thread Apoorva S.Malavia

It is only constrained by the routers memory.

"jun young,kwon" wrote:

 HI all.
 This is jun young, kwon in korea.
 i want to know the maximum routing table entries that cisco 7513 and cisco
 12012 can have.
 i have gone to do web-surfing for the materials.
 but i can't find it.
 i wish anyone informs me of my question.

 --
 
 Jun young,kwon([EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 Korea Telecom  DATA COMMUNICATION OM OFFICE
 INTERNET OM DIVISION
 TEL: 82-2-747-2531~3
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RE: PLS HELP - DLSW+ not working, token-ring attached FEP 3746 to a ethernet attached SNA client over Frame-relay...

2000-06-04 Thread Michael W. Oliver

If anyone is interested, I have written a javascript on one of my web pages
that will calculate the canonical MAC address of whatever you enter.  The
URL is http://michael.gargantuan.com/network/calcmac.htm if you want to give
it a whirl

HTH,

Michael







-Original Message-
From: ElephantChild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:14 PM
To: Joe Martin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PLS HELP - DLSW+ not working, token-ring attached FEP 3746
to a ethernet attached SNA client over Frame-relay...


On Wed, 31 May 2000, Joe Martin wrote:

 After writing down the binary representation of the mac address, read the
 binary from left to right instead of right to left.  in other words,
 something like 04d0 binary  0100 1101  when read from left to
right
 becomes 02b0.  then swap the nibbles so 02b0 becomes 200b.

ITYM read *each nibble* from left to right, not the whole 48-bit string.
A simpler way to say it is "read each *byte* from right to left." This
combines steps 2 and 3 below.

ObThreadLongPast: You could also learn to reverse hex digits in your
head and eliminate step 1. :-) 

 ""Chuck Larrieu"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 008901bfcabb$b82fd1e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:008901bfcabb$b82fd1e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Lost me someplace along the line, Joe. Step two - read from left to
right.
 
  You still on cloud nine, or is it past my bedtime? :-
 
  -Original Message-
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 Joe
  Martin
 
  heres an example of conversion:
 
  0060.035f.0804
 
  write it in binary
    0110  .  0011 0101  .  1000  0100
 
  read it from left to right
  0060.0caf.0102
 
  swap the nibbles
  0006.c0fa.1020
 
  Thats it
 
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   joe, can you pls. explain a little more in detail here, and how do i
do
  the conversion, any doc. on this?
   thanks,
   mohan

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ICMP Filters HELP!

2000-06-04 Thread Blake Traister

I cannot figure out for the life of me how I can stop incoming ICMP
packets that originate outside our network...WITHTOU stoppng our pinging
also.  I want us to be able to ping outside, would like the outisde to
not be able to ping us.  Obviously deny icmp any any also kills our
pinging

Is there a particular syntax or port?

Blake

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Re: Study group in Toronto Area

2000-06-04 Thread linxin

I am in  downtown. I am interested in Toronto studygroup and I also saw that
website before. Who knew that website clearly, please give me some detail.
Actually I hope to join in one studygroup first.

jeff
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 I am in Scarborough and on the road to CCNP !  Which area  r u in Toronto
?


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Re: New CCIE

2000-06-04 Thread Apoorva S.Malavia

Congrats, way to go 

In the end it all paid off.


Joe Martin wrote:

 H  e  l  l  o   from Sunny San Jose.

 I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S
 lab.

 My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a
 great deal of thanks to everyone in the group.  I have learned so much from
 each of you.  I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can.

 Here's a bit of my story:

 I'm 33.  Got my first computer when I was 13.  20 years.  Wow!!!  Fell in
 love with programming.  At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building
 custom IBM compatibles for a friends business.  I taught continuing
 education computer classes.  Did that for three years to help pay for my own
 college.  By my third year of college I burned out on programming.  I'd
 finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube
 all day and write code.  I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect
 and learned all about PBXs.  Did that for 7 years.  I decided to make the
 leap back into "real" computers and data.  I went to work for the phone
 company as a field data technician.  Did that for 1 1/2 years and then
 became a Sales Engineer.  Been doing that for about 3 years now.  I've got
 lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel,
 Fore/Marconi, etc...).  Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE.  I
 also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way.
 Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP.  In
 January of this year I did my Voice access specialization.  In February I
 passed the CCIE written.  I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever
 since.  I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of
 the weekend since then.  Its been 3 1/2 months of hell.  My wife has been
 very understanding.

 Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph.  Hope my highschool english teacher
 isn't reading this!

 Thanks again,
 Joe Martin
 CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things...

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Re: Sylvan Prometric and FRS 2.0 Beta Test

2000-06-04 Thread Al Kulp

Cisco is taking names and e-mail address of people that are upset about not
getting in for FRS beta.  I was on hold for almost 2:30 before I too hung up
and called back to get that discouraging message.

Something is definitely wrong with Prometric's phone system.

--
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Anaheim Union High School District

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ISDN problems

2000-06-04 Thread BIKEMAN



Hi all

Thank you for your help on the speed of the ISDN 
connection. Most helpfull.

I'm afraid that my woes continue - the link is 
working fine, authenticated, can reach anything I want to, resolve to the DNS 
servers at the ISP, use the ISP's proxy but occasionally for a few minutes the 
workstations using the link cant access anything. I can still ping the ISP from 
the router but not from the workstations. 

I'm not really sure if this is a router problem or 
a result of using the remote proxy but here is the meat of my 
config:

ip subnet-zeroip nat pool XX x.x.x.x x.x.x.x netmask 
x.x.x.xip nat inside source list 1 pool xx overloadno ip 
domain-lookupisdn switch-type basic-net3!interface 
Ethernet0ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.xip nat 
inside!interface BRI0description connected to 
Internetno ip addressip nat outsideencapsulation 
pppdialer rotary-group 1dialer-group 1no cdp 
enable!interface Dialer1description connected to 
Internetip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.xip nat 
outsideencapsulation pppno ip split-horizondialer 
in-banddialer string xdialer hold-queue 
10dialer-group 1no cdp enable!ip classlessip 
route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.xaccess-list 
1 permit x.x.x.0 0.0.0.255

All details that might identify the customer or compromise security should 
be gone. 

Let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks

Rudi


Re: Sylvan Prometric and FRS 2.0 Beta Test

2000-06-04 Thread Kevin Wigle

and where do I send mine?

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Al Kulp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 04 June, 2000 23:54
Subject: Re: Sylvan Prometric and FRS 2.0 Beta Test


 Cisco is taking names and e-mail address of people that are upset about
not
 getting in for FRS beta.  I was on hold for almost 2:30 before I too hung
up
 and called back to get that discouraging message.

 Something is definitely wrong with Prometric's phone system.

 --
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 Anaheim Union High School District

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Re: ISDN problems

2000-06-04 Thread Brad Ellis

check the default gateway on your workstations.  make sure they are set to
the router's e0

-Brad
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Hi all

Thank you for your help on the speed of the ISDN connection. Most helpfull.

I'm afraid that my woes continue - the link is working fine, authenticated,
can reach anything I want to, resolve to the DNS servers at the ISP, use the
ISP's proxy but occasionally for a few minutes the workstations using the
link cant access anything. I can still ping the ISP from the router but not
from the workstations.

I'm not really sure if this is a router problem or a result of using the
remote proxy but here is the meat of my config:


ip subnet-zero
ip nat pool XX x.x.x.x x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x
ip nat inside source list 1 pool xx overload
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
 ip nat inside
!
interface BRI0
 description connected to Internet
 no ip address
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 1
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer1
 description connected to Internet
 ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip split-horizon
 dialer in-band
 dialer string x
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x
access-list 1 permit x.x.x.0 0.0.0.255

All details that might identify the customer or compromise security should
be gone.

Let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks

Rudi



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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

2000-06-04 Thread Mark Holloway

NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet.

I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted
to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I
started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365.  This is in
Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace
(because the Casinos are cheap as hell!  Never work in one! I did and it
sucked!  Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of
IBM/AS400 dominance.  I now work 10 miles away from the strip).  I only get
called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home.
Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the Tropicana
Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that hands
on is the only true measure of ones abilities.  When I completed my MCSE I
knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in relation
to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake of
knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System admins".
In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not
responsible for Servers or operating systems.  The only concern should be
packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few
others.  Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap.
Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and
troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible for
that crap.  A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to worry
about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department.  BTW,
I heard Sprint Long  Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS)
is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus.  This came straight from one
of their enigneers.


- Original Message -
From: Kevin S. Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries


 No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now.

 :)

 Kevin


 At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote:
 3com in Milpitas pays that much?  Dang..
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Ryan Ward
 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
 
 
 FYI...
 
 I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both
got
 jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also
have
 a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little
 experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises.
 
 -Ryan
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brad Ellis
 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
 
 
 Chad,
 
 With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still
need
 to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard
to
 get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't
pay
 OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After that
 experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.
 
 Keep chugging along!
 -Brad
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   I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months
of
   (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
   experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
   persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems
low
 to
   me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.
  
   Best Regards,
   Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
  
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Need Help!

2000-06-04 Thread Cool Guy

Dear Fellows!

I need a help. I'm working on 2503 Router and I have to configure it for
DDR. Since it doesn't have any async port i had to configure the auxillary
port to use as async and attache it with the modem. Can anyone of you guide me
to configure that auxilary port for DDR i.e.  to configure it as async one. I
have already configured DDR on the async port but having problem in connecting
my modem with the auxilary port as the TR signal is not lit on the modem.
Please help me in configuring the auxilary port.

thanks


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Re: VLAN Trunk traffic question

2000-06-04 Thread John Neiberger

Thank you!  I've been trying to find the answer to that for a while now.  I
don't have a way to test it on our production network or I would have simply
set it up and watched what happened.  My bosses get a little upset when I
start playing with our corporate backbone switches just for the fun of it. 
:-)  silly people...  It's not like I'd hurt something...well, there was
that one time when I made the 7513 reboot...during business
hourstwiceoops...

Thanks again!

John Neiberger

  To answer your question, I believe the switch ports, whether trunked or
not,
  still forward based on the table of learned MAC-addresses.
  
  Meaning that a VLANx packet, assuming the destination MAC address is
already
  learned, will only traverse the trunk port towards the valid destination.
  
  --
  Fred Nielsen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  --
  
  
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  : In this case, though, both switches B and C are in the same VLAN, but I
  : wouldn't want traffic destined for C going down the trunk connected to
B.
  : This would be a waste of time and bandwidth.  I'm trying to determine
if
  the
  : trunk will pass ALL traffic for that VLAN, or only VLAN traffic that is
  : actually destined for an endhost on the opposite end of a particular
  trunk.
  : :-)  That barely makes senseheh heh.
  :
  :   If you use ISL, it will pass traffic only if it is destined for that
  : VLAN. It
  :   does frame tagging.
  :   It won't pass unnecessary traffic.
  : 
  : 
  : 
  :   John Neiberger wrote:
  : 
  :Ok, I'm suffering from a brain cloud at the moment.  So, willing
to
  : suffer
  :the comic flames and arrows, I ask the following question:
  :   
  :Assume we have three switches: A, B, and C.  A has a fast ethernet
  :connection to B and another to C.  B and C are not directly
  connected.
  : At
  :this point, these are not trunk lines and they are in the same
VLAN.
  : That
  :means only traffic destined for B goes down the line to B, and
  traffic
  :destined for C goes to C.
  :   
  :Now, if I were to make both of those connections trunk lines,
either
  : ISL or
  :802.1q, would I still have only B-destined traffic going to B or
  would
  : that
  :trunk be passing all traffic for that entire VLAN up to B even
though
  :C-destined traffic is a waste of bandwidth on the B trunk?
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