Re: Please don't lie on resumes

2000-10-28 Thread NeoLink2000

In a message dated 10/28/00 12:30:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Earlier this year I brought the binder of course material from my advanced
> BGP class to an interview with me.  To have something to look at while I
> was waiting.  A small plain pink binder.  It was on the conference table
> in front of me during the whole interview process.  When they got around
> to asking me some BGP questions, there was some stuff I couldn't recall.
> I'd been cracking jokes the whole time (I'm pretty much full-on nonstop
> all the time..my dad was a morning radio DJ ;-) and everybody laughed when
> I asked them if I could refer to my source material.  "Sure," one guy
> said, "go ahead".  So I popped open my BGP book and started looking up the
> answers.
> 
> The perfect timing impressed them more than anything, I think.
> 

Did you get the job???  ;)

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Re: Please don't lie on resumes

2000-10-28 Thread Fuzz Leonard


On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 10/28/00 12:30:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> > Earlier this year I brought the binder of course material from my advanced
> > BGP class to an interview with me.  To have something to look at while I
> > was waiting.  A small plain pink binder.  It was on the conference table
> > in front of me during the whole interview process.  When they got around
> > to asking me some BGP questions, there was some stuff I couldn't recall.
> > I'd been cracking jokes the whole time (I'm pretty much full-on nonstop
> > all the time..my dad was a morning radio DJ ;-) and everybody laughed when
> > I asked them if I could refer to my source material.  "Sure," one guy
> > said, "go ahead".  So I popped open my BGP book and started looking up the
> > answers.
> > 
> > The perfect timing impressed them more than anything, I think.
> > 
> 
> Did you get the job???  ;)


No.  But it was weird, and the second weird sketchy interview in a row I
had been to.  The guy who was to be my boss wanted to hire me.  There had
to be unanimous agreement with all the people from the tech interview
though.  One guy said he didn't think I'd be good for the job.  Then he
offered me a job in his department instead.  Which smellled funny to me.
And the whole reason I'd been so psyched about the interview was because
of my first meeting with my potential new boss, which went exceedingly
well.  We could communicate very rapidly, there was an instant rapport.
BUT, at the end of the interview I explained to him how in my last
interview the hiring manager had told me he would call me personally
either way the next day and instead I got an email two days later from
some office flunky.  And how that had really bothered me.  He assured me
he'd call the next day, no bs.  He didn't.  

People.

Whatcha gonna do?


I did eventually get a job.  Which I usually like a great deal ;-)  



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Subnetting questions

2000-10-28 Thread .

Hi Friends

In a subnetting scenario, say for example they say that "Configure the
ethernet network so that it can support 16 hosts."

Do they mean 16 hosts including all the IP's for the routers in the network,
or does it mean 16 host IP's in addition to the router IP's.
Please let me know

Thanks

SV

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Re: IDB

2000-10-28 Thread Shane Stockman

IDBs provide a central location in memory for storing information about 
network interface cards for use by the interface driver code.
They are able to represent all knds of interfaces including 
subinterfaces.The IDB data stuctures also use alot of memory so Cisco has 
limited them to 300 per router.
Each physical whether it is configured or not or if it is up or shut uses 
one IDB.It works the same for the subinterfaces, each subinterfaces gets one 
IDB.

e.g one interface has 5 subinterfaces so there are 6 IDBs allocated.

Subinterfaces use IDBs but FR PVCs don't.If a FR has 10 PVCs and does not 
use any subinterfaces it uses a single IDB.
Another example:1 interface with 2 subinterfaces each having 3 PVCs only use 
3 IDBs.

Hope This helps

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>Hey everyone,
>
>What does IDB represent in a cisco environment?
>
>Thanks,
>
>JOHN
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Re: Connecting to Console port

2000-10-28 Thread Tom Keough

Get the new and improved version...
http://www.hilgraeve.com/htpe/download.html\
Tom
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> I've heard that HyperTerminal is not good for connecting to the console
port
> on Cisco routers. If this is the case, can anyone recommend an alternative
> please.
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Re: Connecting to Console port

2000-10-28 Thread Tom Keough

Hey,
Sorry for the old link...  Try this one:
http://www.hilgraeve.com/htpe/index.html
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port
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> please.
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Connecting to Console port

2000-10-28 Thread TechRec

Hi

I've heard that HyperTerminal is not good for connecting to the console port
on Cisco routers. If this is the case, can anyone recommend an alternative
please.

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RE: Connecting to Console port

2000-10-28 Thread Brent R. Thomas

This seems to be pretty good 


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Hi

I've heard that HyperTerminal is not good for connecting to the console port
on Cisco routers. If this is the case, can anyone recommend an alternative
please.

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how to set Linux gateway?

2000-10-28 Thread RANMA

hello?

who can teach me how to set LINUX gateway...
forexample , I got and IP address for eth0 : 202.123.222.123
and my internal IP eth1 : 192.168.0.1


Thank you!
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Re: Connecting to Console port

2000-10-28 Thread Adam Obszynski

> I've heard that HyperTerminal is not good for connecting to the console port
> on Cisco routers. If this is the case, can anyone recommend an alternative
> please.

i always prefer DOS utils
and IMHO terminal build in Dos Navigator is great
www.ritlabs.com



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CCNP Question

2000-10-28 Thread Greg Cain



Hello Friends,
 
Hopefully this question won't be considered too basic for you 
folks, but I need some serious advice on hardware necessary to achieve my CCNP 
status by next winter. I have pretty much been given this time frame by my 
girlfriend as she has become very homesick and wishes to move back there no 
later than end of 2001. Problem is, I currently live in a very technically rich 
job market and will be moving to an area that is not. I feel that to at least 
maintain my current salary once I move, I will need to have my CCNP completed 
before anyone in my new home market would consider paying me what I currently 
make. 
 
What is the absolute minimum hardware requirement necessary 
not only to get past the exams but also to give me hands on experience to get a 
good salary offer? By the way, I'm not interested in just the money but would 
love to become more knowledgeable with networking so please don't think that I'm 
only looking to become a "paper CCNP". As many of you know and the others will 
one day learn, money does matter !
 
Thanks in advance for the help !
 
Greg Cain
MTS Systems Engineer
Verizon Communications
 


RE: Please don't lie on resumes

2000-10-28 Thread Lou Nelson

Does this mean I have to take "Invented the Internet" off my resume'

Al

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 6:10 PM
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Subject: Please don't lie on resumes


Everyone,

Don't put down lies or exaggerate on your resumes.
You will be uncovered.  Things like, "Very Familiar
with OSPF" leave you open to questions like "Explain
the problems with OSPF over Frame-Relay partial mesh
networks".  If your very familiar, then you know the
answer to that question.  If you have OSPF all over
your resume and can't answer that, potential employers
will probably not hire you.  Be honest, and your
chances of getting that job become greater.

Regards
Kamoto


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Re: Routing question

2000-10-28 Thread dan snyder



are these two routers gateways for there respected 
networks?  if not, add routes on the gateway router for these 
networks.  sounds like a return route problem.
 
dan snyder

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  From: 
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  Fernandez 
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  PM
  Subject: Routing question
  
  Ok folks here is my problem,
   
  I have a server that I can ping from the local router, this 
  router is advertising the network that this subnet belongs to via eigrp. I go 
  to a remote router 2 hops away and I cannot ping it. There are no access-lists 
  to prevent traffic from the loval router or the ip[ address of the server from 
  reaching the remote site. The remote site sees the network that the subnet 
  belongs to via eigrp. I have tried addind static routing but to no avail. I 
  know I should be able to ping it from the local router because the subnet that 
  the server is on is directly connected to the token ring interface on the 
  router but why cant I recieve anything from the pings on the remote router? I 
  have looked for access listI have traced and they go to the right router 
  but there the trace dies...any ideas.The remote router is running the same 
  eigrp AS. 
   
   
  sincerely, Raul


CCNP Hardware Question

2000-10-28 Thread Puppy

Hello Friends,

Hopefully this question won't be considered too basic for you folks, but I
need some serious advice on hardware necessary to achieve my CCNP status by
next winter. I have pretty much been given this time frame by my girlfriend
as she has become very homesick and wishes to move back there no later than
end of 2001. Problem is, I currently live in a very technically rich job
market and will be moving to an area that is not. I feel that to at least
maintain my current salary once I move, I will need to have my CCNP
completed before anyone in my new home market would consider paying me what
I currently make.

What is the absolute minimum hardware requirement necessary not only to get
past the exams but also to give me hands on experience to get a good salary
offer? By the way, I'm not interested in just the money but would love to
become more knowledgeable with networking so please don't think that I'm
only looking to become a "paper CCNP". As many of you know and the others
will one day learn, money does matter !

Thanks in advance for the help !

Greg Cain
MTS Systems Engineer
Verizon Communications



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Re: Please don't lie on resumes

2000-10-28 Thread Trexken

Nope, just run for POTUS.

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Re: Please don't lie on resumes

2000-10-28 Thread NeoLink2000

In a message dated 10/28/00 12:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Does this mean I have to take "Invented the Internet" off my resume'
> 
> Al
> 

Of coarse it does cause I invented it!!!   ;)I also invented the original 
network lines for the government that ran across the ocean...even though I'm 
21!!!   ;)

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Re: Connecting to Console port (How to issue a BREAK with minthyperterminal)

2000-10-28 Thread Reinhold Fischer

Oh dear, not the hyperterminal thread again, this was my first thought as i have
read the original question. I agree, there are many execellent terminal emulators 
out there. But just imagine that you go to a customer and have to use one of their
computers to rescue a router.  Wanna ask the customer to download xxx-term that
you can work with ? Chances are very good that hyperterminal is on the customers
computer, so we should know how to use it ...

To issue a break signal with genuine Hyperterminal you can use this method:

Connect as usual to the router and set a very low baudrate in hyperterm. I use
110 as example. Now just press a few different keys repeatedly. Thies issued the 
break signal. Now switch back to 9600 bits per second and continue the usual
procedure.

hth

Reinhold

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TechRec wrote:
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>
>I've heard that HyperTerminal is not good for connecting to the console port
>on Cisco routers. If this is the case, can anyone recommend an alternative
>please.
>
>Thanks

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Re: Connecting to Console port - recover to factory settings?

2000-10-28 Thread Matthew . Sypherd


Hey everyone,

 I've been having a problem with a 4000M.  I was working on recovering
a password and when I rebooted I just got screen garbage (diamonds,
squares, squigglies, etc.).  Now, while some people may find this more
aesthetically pleasing than the Cisco IOS, it's not exactly what I'm
looking for.  I have a feeling that somehow I inadvertently changed the
baud rate during my attempted password recovery.  Unfortunately, this lab
router was just write erased, so I can't connect to any network interfaces.
So, I pose these three questions:

 1) Is there any mildly easy way to reset a 4000M back to factory state
(9600 8N1 or 8N2 - depending on documentation)

 2) Am I going to have to sit and try all the possible
terminalspeed/databits/parity/stopbits combos until I stumble upon it?

 3) Does anyone have another suggestion?

 Thanks,

 Matthew Sypherd
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 CCNP+Security CCDP CCSE MCSE




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  hyperterminal)


Oh dear, not the hyperterminal thread again, this was my first thought as i
have
read the original question. I agree, there are many execellent terminal
emulators
out there. But just imagine that you go to a customer and have to use one
of their
computers to rescue a router.  Wanna ask the customer to download xxx-term
that
you can work with ? Chances are very good that hyperterminal is on the
customers
computer, so we should know how to use it ...

To issue a break signal with genuine Hyperterminal you can use this method:

Connect as usual to the router and set a very low baudrate in hyperterm. I
use
110 as example. Now just press a few different keys repeatedly. Thies
issued the
break signal. Now switch back to 9600 bits per second and continue the
usual
procedure.

hth

Reinhold

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>I've heard that HyperTerminal is not good for connecting to the console
port
>on Cisco routers. If this is the case, can anyone recommend an alternative
>please.
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Re: how to set Linux gateway?

2000-10-28 Thread Robert Borejszo

This document is a good start:

http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html

Regards,
Robert Borejszo

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> forexample , I got and IP address for eth0 : 202.123.222.123
> and my internal IP eth1 : 192.168.0.1
>
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> Thank you!
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ADSL

2000-10-28 Thread Andre Fecteau

Hello,

I have an ADSL 675 router and the settings show 1, ?, ?, 8.  But the ISP
show 0 for the VPI.  How do I get around this, cause I don't see 0 as an
option?

Thanks,
Andre

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Re: how to set Linux gateway?

2000-10-28 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

http://www.linuxcentral.com/linux/LDP/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO.html

At 11:10 PM 10/28/00, RANMA wrote:
>hello?
>
>who can teach me how to set LINUX gateway...
>forexample , I got and IP address for eth0 : 202.123.222.123
>and my internal IP eth1 : 192.168.0.1
>
>
>Thank you!
>Ken.
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No Subject

2000-10-28 Thread harvey . taylor





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Re: Bruce Caslow

2000-10-28 Thread Fred Ingham

In the ECP-1 course the number of routers in each rack is seven.  Token
ring is included on routers and also on 3920 TR switch.  ATM and voice
also included.  Explanations are always given as is individual help if
student didn't understand the way a topic was presented.  Where did you
get your bad info?

Fred

Dale Holmes wrote:
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> I hear that it is a great class, as long as you don't mind working with a
> half rack (3 routers) and no token ring... Oh, and if you don't understand
> something that is presented I hope you don't expect to have it explained...
> 
> This is what I have heard from those who have actually taken the course. I
> have not done so myself - there are better ways to spend that kind of $$$
> (IMNSHO).
> 
> >From: "info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Bruce Caslow
> >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:58:18 -0400
> >
> >I just registered to take a class with the company
> >that employs Bruce Caslow's teaching services;
> >Mentor Technologies.
> >
> >I was wondering if any of you have had the opportunity
> >to take  his lab exam prep course. The woman I
> >spoke with estimated that 80% of the people
> >who take the course pass the lab exam on the
> >first try.
> >
> >I am mildly skeptical of that but not enough to
> >not attend the class.
> >
> >In any case, has anyone had experience with
> >this group Mentor Technologies? Is Caslow
> >the best instructor there? I've been told that
> >all the other instructors are his students. I
> >was told they allow you to stay in the classroom
> >practicing stuff as long as you wantinto the
> >wee hours of the night if necessary.
> >
> >On a similar note: has anyone had excellent results
> >from a class from another vendor?
> >
> >
> >On an unrelated note: thanks so much to all who
> >responded to my query about bandwidth statements
> >on frame relay links. Definitely helped alot!
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CCIE Written Passed

2000-10-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Hi, guys and gals! Miss me while I was gone?  :->

I am quite pleased and very proud to announce that I passed my CCIE written
this morning. I won't bore you with my score, let alone the number of
questions on the test and the passing score. This sort of thing information
is available elsewhere. My own score is irrelevant, except to say that it
wasn't even close. ;->

All in all, this was a very good test, in my opinion. There were a couple of
questions that might be considered ambiguous. There was certainly a bit of
whimsy to be found. I nearly broke out laughing at a couple of the totally
discongrous things I saw. I have to wonder how many test takers even realize
the humor that is to be found in a couple of places? :->

In terms of preparation, let me state that in my experience, there is NO
substitute for Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP Routing, nor Bassam Halabi's Internet
Routing Architectures. I also used the CCIE Exam Cram book, with good
effect. Heresy as it is to suggest this, I believe that in terms of pure
test preparation, that with regards to Radia Perlman's Interconnections, one
might find better ways to spend one's time. ( this is NOT to say there is no
value to be found, NOR is it to say that one should NOT read the book. It is
only to say that in terms of pure preparation for the CCIE written as I saw
it, there are better sources available ) I also took advantage of a number
of study materials freely available from CCO, CCPrep, and our own groupstudy
web site. The latter two sites have some token ring / RIF information that
was invaluable. I also spent a LOT of time with the materials one can obtain
by subscribing to Certification Zone ( disclosure - I have been compensated
for services rendered to Certification Zone )

If I were to tabulate, I would say that the plurality of questions involved
OSPF and bridging of various kinds. There was far less BGP than I would have
expected, given what the Blueprint describes. In terms of a couple of areas,
such as router operation, protocol behavior fundamentals, and so on, that
Exam Cram proved to be quite useful. One might consider investing in this
one even at the CCNA level, and growing into it.

Also, when you read my signature, your will understand that I am embarrassed
to report that my worst score by far fell under the category of security

Lastly, I wanted to mention that I saw several questions on my test that I
have also seen posed here on Groupstudy - almost word for word, and right
down to some very accurate representations of the diagrams. Some of you bad
boys and girls have been violating the NDA. Shame on you ;->

I am aware that Nigel, Bernard, and the other Chuck will be taking their
written's over the next couple of days. It is definitely looking like the
class of 2001 is shaping up quite well. Hey, guys, I look forward to seeing
your announcements of your own success Monday and Tuesday. There is no doubt
in my mind. If I can do it, you certainly can. Just don't outsmart
yourselves. Always THINK!  :->

I kinda look at it this way. I began the climb to Everest at the shoreline
of India. CCNA/CCDA = Delhi. CCNP/CCDP = Katmandu. CCIE Written = Base Camp
18,000 feet. The rest of the climb looks real steep, real tough. But I can
look back along my route and see that I have come a long way. And like the
Little Engine of lore, I Think I Can! There are too many of you who are
entitled to and deserving of my thanks for your advice, your wisdom, your
good humor, your knowledge. I can only say that it is indeed my privilege to
know and associate with each and every one of you.

See you all up on the top of Everest!

Chuck
BA, MS, CCNA, CCDA, CCNP/Security(!), CCDP
CCIE Written, CCIE Candidate!
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Re: CCNP Question

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Greg Cain wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> 
> Hopefully this question won't be considered too basic for you folks,
> but I need some serious advice on hardware necessary to achieve my
> CCNP status by next winter. I have pretty much been given this time
> frame by my girlfriend as she has become very homesick and wishes to
> move back there no later than end of 2001. Problem is, I currently
> live in a very technically rich job market and will be moving to an
> area that is not. I feel that to at least maintain my current salary
> once I move, I will need to have my CCNP completed before anyone in my
> new home market would consider paying me what I currently make.
> 
> What is the absolute minimum hardware requirement necessary not only
> to get past the exams but also to give me hands on experience to get a
> good salary offer? By the way, I'm not interested in just the money
> but would love to become more knowledgeable with networking so please
> don't think that I'm only looking to become a "paper CCNP". As many of
> you know and the others will one day learn, money does matter !

This is long, but trying to give good advice.  Anyone can feel free to
make corrections to what I am saying.

I would suggest:

AGS+ w/4 serials at least or 2520   (frame relay cloud)
2501
2502
2503
2504
NT-1
Actual ISDN Line or simulator (only 1 isdn line needed, each router can
use 1 channel).

Some good "reference" prices for best deals are:

2501$750
2502$400
2503$850
2504$450

you have to shop to find these, but it can be done.  check ebay, search
the "completed" auctions and see what the lowest some stuff has
succesfully closed at.

If your on a budget get a 2924xl/2912..if you can squeeze it, get a
2901 though (or 2926T).  If your are considering CCIE seriously,
personaly I would go for the 2901/2926T or 5000 series. A 5000/5002 with
sup1/5212a (12ports) is a good choice if you want to attempt ATM later 
(see below).  I got a 2901 for $1200.the deals are out there you
just have to look.  2901/2926T have the same supervisor as a 5000, and run
the same code.  These are "set" based like you would see on the CCIE
lab.  On a budget, a 2924xl/2912 will still allow you to play with
VLANs.  Or if money is really tight a 1912/1924 I belive has a 100bT port
that is ISL capible.

4 routers minimum is important, imho, so that you can do fully meshed FR
scenerios.  Token Ring is really not that important, but it is good to
know and essential for CCIE down the road.  Also TR routers are
CHEAP so it works out well.  The 2503/2504 allows you to do dial
backup/ddr/etc.  The above would allow you to do everything.  
Bridging/AT/DEC/IP/IPX...and importantly DDR (2502/2503) (and so much 
more).

For CCNP I find IP/IPX/Frame
Relay/ISDN/DDR/RIP/IGRP/OSPF/EIGRP/BGP/HSRP/Transparent bridging
all very important core technologies.  You can do all of that with the
above, and so much more.

What you can't do (but could add later):

VLAN trunks (stage 2)
===
this would require a 100bT interface..to add
ISL/802.1q to the mix, you would buy a 2620 probably which is the cheapest
addition to get this done.  This would add maybe $1500 (remember shop
wisely).  VLAN's and MLS are part of CCNP, but can be expensive for home
lab (especially MLS).  You can still make vlans (on your
2924/2901/etc) but can't trunk them to a router is all.   

Voice (stage 3)
=
This is more for the CCIE.  But perhaps you would like voice
specialization.  Down the road, add a 2610 (like the 2620, it can use
VIC's (voice cards) but is not as expensive since it has no
fastethernet.  So the 2620/2610 combination is a cheap way to do Voice AND
get Vlan trunking at the same time

ATM (stage 4)
===
Your 2600'x from above can do ATM.  You can add this to the mix as well
if you have the money.

some tips:

Don't overlook the 4000 series.  This is by far one of the best lab values
out there.  Here are some typical prices you would see on ebay:

2501$750

4000$400
4000 np2t (2 serial)$120
4000 np2e (2 ether) $400
4000 np4t (4 serial)$400

so you can see that you can get a 4000 with 2 serial/2 ethernet for 920.00
not much more than a 2501...yet its modular, you can add Token ring,
hssi, all kinds of stuff.  The 4500/4700's can use FastEthernet as
well..and are MLS capbible.

Shop.  Hit all the mailing lists and messages boards and ebay.be
patient.  establish a good price.  If someone has a higher price, make an
offer.

Don't think you have to have it all.  What you can't afford pay people
like ccbootcamp.com, who have excellent equipment you can rent and use
(voice and atm for example).




> 
> Thanks in advance for the help !
> 
> Greg Cain
> MTS Systems Engineer
> Verizon Communications
> 
> 

---
Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Network Administrator 
ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)

PIX question

2000-10-28 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

Is there any way to have outside users access an
internal subnet? I see from CCO that you can only have
ouside users access a particular internal host.

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Novell NLSP

2000-10-28 Thread A.Strobel

Recently I was reading an article that Novell's Link Servrice Protocol (NLSP )
is very similar to another link state protocol, as the person who developed it
was working for one company then was hired by the other company.

I've looked all over the place to find this article again, but at no avail.

Can someone help please?

Thanks

A. Strobel




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Re: Novell NLSP

2000-10-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu

The answer, no doubt, is Radia Perlman, who once upon a time, according to
Internconnections, was employed by Novell, and who states in
Interconnections that NLSP is an IPX-specific version of IS-IS, which she
also designed.

Chuck

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>
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Re: CCIE Written Passed

2000-10-28 Thread Nigel Taylor

I never expected anything else...   "Great Job" and congrat's!
Hopefully I'll be posting a similar joyous response on Monday.  By the way
"good luck " Bernard and the other Chuck as you take your test on Monday or
Tuesday.

As Chuck mentioned See you at "base camp".

Nigel.

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Subject: CCIE Written Passed


> Hi, guys and gals! Miss me while I was gone?  :->
>
> I am quite pleased and very proud to announce that I passed my CCIE
written
> this morning. I won't bore you with my score, let alone the number of
> questions on the test and the passing score. This sort of thing
information
> is available elsewhere. My own score is irrelevant, except to say that it
> wasn't even close. ;->
>
> All in all, this was a very good test, in my opinion. There were a couple
of
> questions that might be considered ambiguous. There was certainly a bit of
> whimsy to be found. I nearly broke out laughing at a couple of the totally
> discongrous things I saw. I have to wonder how many test takers even
realize
> the humor that is to be found in a couple of places? :->
>
> In terms of preparation, let me state that in my experience, there is NO
> substitute for Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP Routing, nor Bassam Halabi's Internet
> Routing Architectures. I also used the CCIE Exam Cram book, with good
> effect. Heresy as it is to suggest this, I believe that in terms of pure
> test preparation, that with regards to Radia Perlman's Interconnections,
one
> might find better ways to spend one's time. ( this is NOT to say there is
no
> value to be found, NOR is it to say that one should NOT read the book. It
is
> only to say that in terms of pure preparation for the CCIE written as I
saw
> it, there are better sources available ) I also took advantage of a number
> of study materials freely available from CCO, CCPrep, and our own
groupstudy
> web site. The latter two sites have some token ring / RIF information that
> was invaluable. I also spent a LOT of time with the materials one can
obtain
> by subscribing to Certification Zone ( disclosure - I have been
compensated
> for services rendered to Certification Zone )
>
> If I were to tabulate, I would say that the plurality of questions
involved
> OSPF and bridging of various kinds. There was far less BGP than I would
have
> expected, given what the Blueprint describes. In terms of a couple of
areas,
> such as router operation, protocol behavior fundamentals, and so on, that
> Exam Cram proved to be quite useful. One might consider investing in this
> one even at the CCNA level, and growing into it.
>
> Also, when you read my signature, your will understand that I am
embarrassed
> to report that my worst score by far fell under the category of security
>
> Lastly, I wanted to mention that I saw several questions on my test that I
> have also seen posed here on Groupstudy - almost word for word, and right
> down to some very accurate representations of the diagrams. Some of you
bad
> boys and girls have been violating the NDA. Shame on you ;->
>
> I am aware that Nigel, Bernard, and the other Chuck will be taking their
> written's over the next couple of days. It is definitely looking like the
> class of 2001 is shaping up quite well. Hey, guys, I look forward to
seeing
> your announcements of your own success Monday and Tuesday. There is no
doubt
> in my mind. If I can do it, you certainly can. Just don't outsmart
> yourselves. Always THINK!  :->
>
> I kinda look at it this way. I began the climb to Everest at the shoreline
> of India. CCNA/CCDA = Delhi. CCNP/CCDP = Katmandu. CCIE Written = Base
Camp
> 18,000 feet. The rest of the climb looks real steep, real tough. But I can
> look back along my route and see that I have come a long way. And like the
> Little Engine of lore, I Think I Can! There are too many of you who
are
> entitled to and deserving of my thanks for your advice, your wisdom, your
> good humor, your knowledge. I can only say that it is indeed my privilege
to
> know and associate with each and every one of you.
>
> See you all up on the top of Everest!
>
> Chuck
> BA, MS, CCNA, CCDA, CCNP/Security(!), CCDP
> CCIE Written, CCIE Candidate!
> ( save this e-mail as a collector's item  - I will never sign this way
again
> ;-> )
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as
> it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you
will
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Re: Bruce Caslow

2000-10-28 Thread Curtis Phillips
I can attest to the equipment list that Fred mentioned. It is exactly as he says. As for people not being  given adequate explanation... I would say it is clear that the course content and pace are defined as to prepare someone who has already spent some fairly decent period of time preparing. Think about it... The number of topic covered are staggering, but then so are the number of potential topics on the test. In fact I do not believe that Mentor's claim is to cover every coneivable variance, but to get people pointed in the right direction. I can assure you that no class, ranging a week will prepare someone who has not done the proper groundwork. If there is an area where there may be any grounds for problems it would be in the understanding and expectations that a student brings to the class. If someone is coming from a mentality that is instilled by the CCNA and CCNP types of read-a-book/pass-a-test mode, there is a radical difference.- Original Message - From: Fred Ingham Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:21 PM To: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bruce Caslow In the ECP-1 course the number of routers in each rack is seven.  Tokenring is included on routers and also on 3920 TR switch.  ATM and voicealso included.  Explanations are always given as is individual help ifstudent didn't understand the way a topic was presented.  Where did youget your bad info?FredDale Holmes wrote:>> I hear that it is a great class, as long as you don't mind working with a> half rack (3 routers) and no token ring... Oh, and if you don't understand> something that is presented I hope you don't expect to have it explained...>> This is what I have heard from those who have actually taken the course. I> have not done so myself - there are better ways to spend that kind of $$$> (IMNSHO).>> >From: "info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Reply-To: "info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Bruce Caslow> >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:58:18 -0400> >> >I just registered to take a class with the company> >that employs Bruce Caslow's teaching services;> >Mentor Technologies.> >> >I was wondering if any of you have had the opportunity> >to take  his lab exam prep course. The woman I> >spoke with estimated that 80% of the people> >who take the course pass the lab exam on the> >first try.> >> >I am mildly skeptical of that but not enough to> >not attend the class.> >> >In any case, has anyone had experience with> >this group Mentor Technologies? Is Caslow> >the best instructor there? I've been told that> >all the other instructors are his students. I> >was told they allow you to stay in the classroom> >practicing stuff as long as you wantinto the> >wee hours of the night if necessary.> >> >On a similar note: has anyone had excellent results> >from a class from another vendor?> >> >> >On an unrelated note: thanks so much to all who> >responded to my query about bandwidth statements> >on frame relay links. Definitely helped alot!> >> >> >_> >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:> >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html> >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> _> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.>> Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at> http://profiles.msn.com.>> _> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]_FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.htmlReport misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___Get more from your time online.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com


Very Basic Token Ring Question

2000-10-28 Thread Hubert Pun

In the lab, I have a token ring interface. It is not connected to
anywhere.  Is there a way like the Ethernet's "no keepalive" that can
make the token ring interface to be "up up" instead of the current
situation of "down down"?

BTW, is there a similar thing for serial line?


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Re: CID Help needed

2000-10-28 Thread Mohammed Hakim

Hello Mr. Robert,

I have bought you book (CID Study Guide) today .. I have a fast review I say
Very good .. even you give more detail of the job of a network designer
(some question Mrs. Priscilla help me with a good answers).
I will use your book with the Cisco CID books "still waiting for a the Cisco
design books :) "

Thanks,
Mohammed Hakim CCNA R/S

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Subject: Re: CID Help needed


> With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;)
> Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide
> - it is a solid reference and she is a good writer.
> She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My
> book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today
> - note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I
> have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well,
> including Priscilla's kind words.
>
> --- Omer Ehsan Dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Friends,
> > I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am
> > studying from the cisco
> > press book which I have heard does not cover all the
> > topics from the
> > exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
> > thanks.
> > Omer Ehsan Dar
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MCNS

2000-10-28 Thread Jared Carter



Group-
 
I bought a copies of "Designing Network Security" 
and "Enhanced IP Services for Cisco Networks" in hope of passing the MCNS test 
without taking the course.
 
Should this be enough?  If so, which should I 
read first?  Is one more of fundalementals?
 
All input is appreciated.
 
/Jared


Re: MCNS

2000-10-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu

locate PIX configuration materials on CCO as well.

also, it will not hurt to have Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Gil Held
and Keith Hundley.  Pay particlar attention to firewall related access
lists.

if memory serves, it can't hurt to review fundamentals of TACACS+ and
Radius.

Best wishes

Chuck


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I bought a copies of "Designing Network Security" and "Enhanced IP Services
for Cisco Networks" in hope of passing the MCNS test without taking the
course.

Should this be enough?  If so, which should I read first?  Is one more of
fundalementals?

All input is appreciated.

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Book Review - CCIE Exam Cram

2000-10-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Quick and dirty book review.

CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Cram, by Tom Thomas and Henry Benjamin

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1576104338/qid=972768223/sr=1-3/104-3
810111-6781503

I truly wanted to hate this book. The very title Exam Cram rubs me the wrong
way for some reason. But my Design Engineer, the woman who reviews my work
and provides me with plenty of good advice in my job, had good things to
say, so I bought it.

And I have to say, this one turned out to be a pleasant surprise.

The chapters on bridging and switching, networking theory, TCP/IP
networking, and Cisco device operations are excellent. The coverage of RSRP,
DLSw+, and RIF calculation, are excellent.

I was disappointed in the Routing chapter. With the exception of OSPF ( I
wonder why? ) the routing protocols were not very well covered. Doyle is a
far better source for routing protocol behavior.

Definitely one to add to one's study repertoire, particularly as a review in
those last days prior to actually taking the test. In fact, I became
absolutely positive I would pass after racking up the points on the practice
test at the back of the book. Furthermore, now that I have seen the actual
written, I can say that in terms of content and style, the Exam Cram
practice test is most realistic I have seen.

Will this book alone prepare you to pass? No way! Is it a good source of
information that appears on the exam but is difficult to find elsewhere? You
bet!

I recommend that one invest in the CCIE Exam Cram book as early as one can
in one's certification career. There is a lot of good stuff there, and what
you don't understand early in your career you will most definitely grow into
as you progress.

Chuck
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Re: BECN s on Frame-Relay

2000-10-28 Thread Mike N Balistreri


What do you mean "eliminate them"??
If you are receiving BECNs from your network that means that PVC is
experiencing congestion. It's not a router problem, it's a traffic problem.
If your traffic pattern is bursty then implement traffic shaping.  If your
traffic pattern is sustained, such as constant file transfers, then get more
CIR or consider a point-to-point circuit instead of frame relay.

Mike Balistreri

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CCIE Written - Preparation Materials

2000-10-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu

My recommendation for preparation materials for the CCIE written ( routing
and switching 350-001 )

1) Cisco's own web site. There is a WEALTH of excellent materials to be
found there, all FREE. Check under the CCIE section of career
certifications.

2) Jeff Doyle - TCP/IP routing.  There is NO substitute

3) The token ring white paper available for download FREE from
www.ccprep.com, written by Lou Rossi Sr.

4) The RIF paper available for download FREE from our very own groupstudy
site: http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
Written by Fred Ingham

5) Bassam Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures. Contains a bit of fluff,
but has a lot of good BGP information and a lot of BGP configurations for
study

6) RFC's can't hurt: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html

7) Certification Zone www.certificationzone.com  costs some money, but the
study materials and practice tests are worth the price ( disclosure - I have
been compensated by Cert Zone for services rendered )

8) CCIE Exam Cram ( Thomas and Benjamin ) Great way to send your last week
of review. The practice test is a very good indicator of the real thing.

9) Last but not least - this mailing list. Used judiciously, it can and will
provide you with almost all of what you need to know.

Best wishes in your studies

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total bit rate for BRI

2000-10-28 Thread Patrick Bass

In Cisco internetworking Technology Overview it states...

 "BRI also provides for framing control and other overhead, brining its
total bit rate to 192 kbps."

In Cisco Internetwork Design it states...

"The D channel signaling protocol comprises Layers 1 through 3 of the OSI
reference model, brining its total bit rate to 144 kbps."

If I'm taking a Cisco certification exam and the question is "What is the
total bit rate of a BRI" and the answers are a) 128 b) 144 c) 192 d)
whatever...what's the correct answer?  Is it 144 kbps or 192 kbps?

I realize that it is 192 kbps when you take the 48 kbps for framing into
account but considering the fact that two Cisco sources give different
totals for "total bit rate" what am I to answer if I wish to get the answer
correct?


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RE: CCIE Written - Preparation Materials - addendum

2000-10-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I should add that I found some very useful material in a rather unexpected
place.

CCNP Exam Notes: Cisco LAN Switch Configuration ( exam 640-404 - now
obsolete ) by Lammle and Padjen

Had some very good chapters on ATM LANE, as well as VLANs and Token Ring
VLANs.

I found this one while cleaning up my office/lab a few weeks ago. I bought
it before I found out I had been awarded a passing score on the switching
beta I took last January. So I just threw it in the pile, to be looked at
later. In retrospect, I am very glad I kept it.

If you can find this book around ( it's still listed at Amazon )

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782125425/qid=972774532/sr=1-16/104-
3810111-6781503

you may want to consider it as one reference. It is now obsolete in terms of
the CCNP switching exam, but some things remain useful beyond the exam for
which they were intended.

Chuck


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My recommendation for preparation materials for the CCIE written ( routing
and switching 350-001 )

1) Cisco's own web site. There is a WEALTH of excellent materials to be
found there, all FREE. Check under the CCIE section of career
certifications.

2) Jeff Doyle - TCP/IP routing.  There is NO substitute

3) The token ring white paper available for download FREE from
www.ccprep.com, written by Lou Rossi Sr.

4) The RIF paper available for download FREE from our very own groupstudy
site: http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
Written by Fred Ingham

5) Bassam Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures. Contains a bit of fluff,
but has a lot of good BGP information and a lot of BGP configurations for
study

6) RFC's can't hurt: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html

7) Certification Zone www.certificationzone.com  costs some money, but the
study materials and practice tests are worth the price ( disclosure - I have
been compensated by Cert Zone for services rendered )

8) CCIE Exam Cram ( Thomas and Benjamin ) Great way to send your last week
of review. The practice test is a very good indicator of the real thing.

9) Last but not least - this mailing list. Used judiciously, it can and will
provide you with almost all of what you need to know.

Best wishes in your studies

Chuck
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it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will
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Re: Very Basic Token Ring Question

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Hubert Pun wrote:

> In the lab, I have a token ring interface. It is not connected to
> anywhere.  Is there a way like the Ethernet's "no keepalive" that can
> make the token ring interface to be "up up" instead of the current
> situation of "down down"?
> 
> BTW, is there a similar thing for serial line?

yes just "no keepalive" works


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Re: Very Basic Token Ring Question

2000-10-28 Thread Hubert Pun

I have tried and it does not work.  Do I need to plug any wire to the Token Ring Hub?

Brian wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Hubert Pun wrote:
>
> > In the lab, I have a token ring interface. It is not connected to
> > anywhere.  Is there a way like the Ethernet's "no keepalive" that can
> > make the token ring interface to be "up up" instead of the current
> > situation of "down down"?
> >
> > BTW, is there a similar thing for serial line?
>
> yes just "no keepalive" works
>
> >
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Re: Book Review - CCIE Exam Cram

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> Quick and dirty book review.
> 
> CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Cram, by Tom Thomas and Henry Benjamin
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1576104338/qid=972768223/sr=1-3/104-3
> 810111-6781503
> 
> I truly wanted to hate this book. The very title Exam Cram rubs me the wrong
> way for some reason. But my Design Engineer, the woman who reviews my work
> and provides me with plenty of good advice in my job, had good things to
> say, so I bought it.

I bought this too.  I also normally despise exam cram.  But their isn't
enough CCIE prep books, and it looked like it had alot of nice tableized
information.which it does.

> 
> And I have to say, this one turned out to be a pleasant surprise.
> 
> The chapters on bridging and switching, networking theory, TCP/IP
> networking, and Cisco device operations are excellent. The coverage of RSRP,
> DLSw+, and RIF calculation, are excellent.
> 
> I was disappointed in the Routing chapter. With the exception of OSPF ( I
> wonder why? ) the routing protocols were not very well covered. Doyle is a
> far better source for routing protocol behavior.

nod I found the BGP stuff real weak as well...even for just
"review" material.

I personally think the book has alot of errors.  It went to press to
fast.  I can't say I was impressed by the OSPF though.  Does this
statement impress you:

Ch.6,p208

"OSPF type 1 routes are always preferred over type 2 routes for the same
dstination, because the cost will always be lower."

Ch.5 p162

A section titled "Transport Control Protocol (TCP)"other places in
the book call it "Transmission Control Protocol"...it just flip flops
back and forth.

I think the RIF stuff had some errors..I am just scanning the book
and trying to remember.

The BGP routing decision isn't exactly complete or accurate.

p297 shows a config for tacacs yet is setting the "radius-server
host" instead of "tacacs-server host"



> 
> Definitely one to add to one's study repertoire, particularly as a review in
> those last days prior to actually taking the test. In fact, I became

I wish they had an eratta.  And if they do, I wish they would make it
easier to locate.

> absolutely positive I would pass after racking up the points on the practice
> test at the back of the book. Furthermore, now that I have seen the actual
> written, I can say that in terms of content and style, the Exam Cram
> practice test is most realistic I have seen.
> 
> Will this book alone prepare you to pass? No way! Is it a good source of
> information that appears on the exam but is difficult to find elsewhere? You
> bet!
> 
> I recommend that one invest in the CCIE Exam Cram book as early as one can
> in one's certification career. There is a lot of good stuff there, and what
> you don't understand early in your career you will most definitely grow into
> as you progress.

I agree its good to get, but I am disappointed because they had alot of
good visuals and ideas yet the delivery was a little weak.

I know it is very hard to write and edit a good book, but I wish these
companies would get copies to several people to proof read before going to
print (or more / better people).

Brian


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Re: CCIE Written - Preparation Materials

2000-10-28 Thread Brian


I used just about the same exact stuff as you chuck, but I didn't really
poor over any RFC's.  I did use the Boson test, which is ok.

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> My recommendation for preparation materials for the CCIE written ( routing
> and switching 350-001 )
> 
> 1) Cisco's own web site. There is a WEALTH of excellent materials to be
> found there, all FREE. Check under the CCIE section of career
> certifications.
> 
> 2) Jeff Doyle - TCP/IP routing.  There is NO substitute
> 
> 3) The token ring white paper available for download FREE from
> www.ccprep.com, written by Lou Rossi Sr.
> 
> 4) The RIF paper available for download FREE from our very own groupstudy
> site: http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
> Written by Fred Ingham
> 
> 5) Bassam Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures. Contains a bit of fluff,
> but has a lot of good BGP information and a lot of BGP configurations for
> study
> 
> 6) RFC's can't hurt: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html
> 
> 7) Certification Zone www.certificationzone.com  costs some money, but the
> study materials and practice tests are worth the price ( disclosure - I have
> been compensated by Cert Zone for services rendered )
> 
> 8) CCIE Exam Cram ( Thomas and Benjamin ) Great way to send your last week
> of review. The practice test is a very good indicator of the real thing.
> 
> 9) Last but not least - this mailing list. Used judiciously, it can and will
> provide you with almost all of what you need to know.
> 
> Best wishes in your studies
> 
> Chuck
> --
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> it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will
> study US!
> ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG )
> www.chuck.to/Locutus.html
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Re: total bit rate for BRI

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Patrick Bass wrote:

> In Cisco internetworking Technology Overview it states...
> 
>  "BRI also provides for framing control and other overhead, brining its
> total bit rate to 192 kbps."
> 
> In Cisco Internetwork Design it states...
> 
> "The D channel signaling protocol comprises Layers 1 through 3 of the OSI
> reference model, brining its total bit rate to 144 kbps."
> 
> If I'm taking a Cisco certification exam and the question is "What is the
> total bit rate of a BRI" and the answers are a) 128 b) 144 c) 192 d)
> whatever...what's the correct answer?  Is it 144 kbps or 192 kbps?

You won't have those two answers :)

This is sort of like the argument is a T1 1.544 or 1.536.  Only the most
evil test creator would put both those answers on a test...

You seem to understand it quite well.  192 is with framing, 144 is just
2B+D.  You can actually use the D channel, but you can't use the framing
bits.  

> 
> I realize that it is 192 kbps when you take the 48 kbps for framing into
> account but considering the fact that two Cisco sources give different
> totals for "total bit rate" what am I to answer if I wish to get the answer
> correct?
> 
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Re: Guidelines for Deploying OSPF: Some structure to the designprocess?

2000-10-28 Thread Cthulu, CCIE Candidate

(snipped for brevity)


The virtual vs. real Charles predates the OSI model, therefore can not be
fit into any of layers.  BTW, thanks for reply;  I am trying to derive a
formula for that will build the optimal OSPF design for whatever situation;
such as

 (X routers) x (Y networks) + (Available CPU Power) + (Available Mem)  =
(This number of routers in an Area)

then

(X Routers) /(This number of routers in an Area) = Number of areas

Voila!  and other French  words I don't know the meaning of.



All that product and logarithm math scared me (calculus flashback!) ; but I
think I can get a formula from your posting as follows:  (X is the number of
each type of route).


1. The product of the number of intra-area routes in Area K  and the
logarithm of the number of routers in Area K
2. The number of summarized or explicit inter-area routes  seen in Area K
3. The number of routes external to the routing domain seen in Area K
>
>   The first term is the actual Dijkstra computation.
>   Summarization affects the second term.
>   Stubbiness and external aggregation affects the third term.




Area Database Size = ((intra-area routes)* X )+ (Summarized Routes) +
((Inter-area routes)*X) + ((Inter-AS routes)*X)

The above formula would give me the size of the database for an area.  I
could then figure out if what routers can handle it, and how many areas the
available resources (CPU) on each router would allow it to handle.



Many thanks!  I think I am either gettting an education here, or am deluding
myself...it's about the same feeling!  At the very least, I am thinking
about the resource requirements of OSPF as part of the design process;)


Thank you,

Charles



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Re: Fwd: total bit rate for BRI

2000-10-28 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

There are a couple Cisco documents that talk about 192-kbps for ISDN BRI, 
but I think the authors of these documents confused the specifics of Layer 
1 signalling on the S-Bus with overall BRI ISDN.

Here's what I found by doing some quick research outside Cisco's site. I 
hope it's from reputable sources:

In the case where S and T are coincident, NT1 is connected to a TE1 or TA 
by means of a passive bus called the S-Bus. The Layer 1 protocol on this 
bus uses frames that comprise 16 bits from the B1 channel (transmitted at a 
rate of 64 kbps), 16 bits from the B2 channel (transmitted at a rate of 64 
kbps), 4 bits from the D channel, (transmitted at a rate of 16 kbps) and 12 
framing bits (transmitted at a rate of 48 kbps). This is equivalent to a 
total throughput of 192 kbps.

In the US, we use the U interface, not the S/T interface. Once again, if 
the sources I found are reputable, then the transfer rate when the U 
interface is used is 160 kbps.

Anyway, if you get a question with both the 192 and 144 answers, you're 
screwed, but I don't think you will. I think the tests are written such 
that the right answer for the transmission rate of BRI is 144 kbps.

Priscilla


>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Path: not-for-mail
>>From: "Patrick Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>In Cisco internetworking Technology Overview it states...
>>
>>  "BRI also provides for framing control and other overhead, brining its
>>total bit rate to 192 kbps."
>>
>>In Cisco Internetwork Design it states...
>>
>>"The D channel signaling protocol comprises Layers 1 through 3 of the OSI
>>reference model, brining its total bit rate to 144 kbps."
>>
>>If I'm taking a Cisco certification exam and the question is "What is the
>>total bit rate of a BRI" and the answers are a) 128 b) 144 c) 192 d)
>>whatever...what's the correct answer?  Is it 144 kbps or 192 kbps?
>>
>>I realize that it is 192 kbps when you take the 48 kbps for framing into
>>account but considering the fact that two Cisco sources give different
>>totals for "total bit rate" what am I to answer if I wish to get the answer
>>correct?
>>
>>
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RE: RIP v1 or RIP v2?

2000-10-28 Thread Pete



By 
default it will be RIP v1.
You 
have to specifically tell it to use RIP v2.
 
Sincerely, Peter 
Kurdziel CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I 
http://www.inotez.com Cisco 
Q&A http://www.inotez.com/discus 

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  v2?
  If you enable rip on a router by defualt will it 
  be RIP v1 or RIP v2?


A unbelieveable experence!!!!

2000-10-28 Thread 謝建成

Hi, 

Yesterday , I went to replace a Catalyst 3524 with a Catalyst 3548 in a bank.  I 
promised them
I won't power off the switch until they finish their work. But I want to check the 
config file in the
running 3524 switch, I connect the console to my notebook. When I press the "Enter" 
key in my
hyperterm window, I expected to see the enter passwrod prompt. But I saw the switch 
was rebooting.
All the ports were turn green!!! Then I got a lot of serious complains

Is this possible happened? Or somebody issued a "reload" command without enter and 
left the console ?
Could anyone can tell me the possible answers?

Thanks!!


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Re: A unbelieveable experence!!!!

2000-10-28 Thread Martin-Guy Richard

My friend, maybe you got a power spike (I don't know how to call it in english!), a 
voltage peak, just as
you pressed enter.  No joke, it happened to me just this week.  We moved, everything 
was installed BUT my
UPS (because it died!).  When I opened the door to the Switch room, BEEP BEEP BEEP, 
Reboot...huh?  So I
bought a UPS right away.

Look at the power, there may be to much peak!  Maybe!

Á«ئ¨ wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yesterday , I went to replace a Catalyst 3524 with a Catalyst 3548 in a bank.  I 
>promised them
> I won't power off the switch until they finish their work. But I want to check the 
>config file in the
> running 3524 switch, I connect the console to my notebook. When I press the "Enter" 
>key in my
> hyperterm window, I expected to see the enter passwrod prompt. But I saw the switch 
>was rebooting.
> All the ports were turn green!!! Then I got a lot of serious complains
>
> Is this possible happened? Or somebody issued a "reload" command without enter and 
>left the console ?
> Could anyone can tell me the possible answers?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Todd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CCNA
>
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PIX PPTP, no NAT

2000-10-28 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

I'm trying to set up PIX PPTP without NAT but no
success. Cisco gives a sample config using NAT
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/pptppix.html but
I don't understand why they use 192.168.1.0.

Here is my topology:
172.16.1.0/24(outside)---PIX---(inside)172.16.2.0/24
I create a pool 172.16.1.100-172.16.1.200, but users
from outside can't reach internal network. 

Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Re: Please don't lie on resumes

2000-10-28 Thread Bharat Suneja

This probably qualifies for one of the funniest wise cracks I've read in
this newsgroup keep those coming Lou!

Bharat

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> Does this mean I have to take "Invented the Internet" off my resume'
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>
>
> Everyone,
>
> Don't put down lies or exaggerate on your resumes.
> You will be uncovered.  Things like, "Very Familiar
> with OSPF" leave you open to questions like "Explain
> the problems with OSPF over Frame-Relay partial mesh
> networks".  If your very familiar, then you know the
> answer to that question.  If you have OSPF all over
> your resume and can't answer that, potential employers
> will probably not hire you.  Be honest, and your
> chances of getting that job become greater.
>
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Frame Switch

2000-10-28 Thread Austin

I have a 2523 in my lab configured as a Frame Relay Switch.
All the serial ports are acting as DCE providing clocking to the routers.
Initially, all clock rates were set to 64000 but I changed it to 100 ...
for some reason, only serial0 and serial1 accepted the new clockrate speed f
100 ... when i tried to enter the clock rate command on the others it
says ... %Error: Unsupported clock rate for this interface .
When I do a show interfaces 
the output for serial0 and serial 1 ... the second line of the output says
Hardware is HD64570 .
for all the other serial interfaces . the second line of the output says
Hardware
is CD2430 in sync mode .
The keywords being "in sync mode" ... I am guessing that this might be a
reason I cannot set the clock rate on the other serial interfaces at 100


Any ideas from anyone as to what is happening and why it is like that?

Thanks,



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Re: A unbelieveable experence!!!!

2000-10-28 Thread cisco

thought that i remember a post a few weeks ago about cat switches
rebooting when connected to a laptop. ?

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Martin-Guy Richard wrote:

> My friend, maybe you got a power spike (I don't know how to call it in english!), a 
>voltage peak, just as
> you pressed enter.  No joke, it happened to me just this week.  We moved, everything 
>was installed BUT my
> UPS (because it died!).  When I opened the door to the Switch room, BEEP BEEP BEEP, 
>Reboot...huh?  So I
> bought a UPS right away.
> 
> Look at the power, there may be to much peak!  Maybe!
> 
> Á«ئ¨ wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yesterday , I went to replace a Catalyst 3524 with a Catalyst 3548 in a bank.  I 
>promised them
> > I won't power off the switch until they finish their work. But I want to check the 
>config file in the
> > running 3524 switch, I connect the console to my notebook. When I press the 
>"Enter" key in my
> > hyperterm window, I expected to see the enter passwrod prompt. But I saw the 
>switch was rebooting.
> > All the ports were turn green!!! Then I got a lot of serious complains
> >
> > Is this possible happened? Or somebody issued a "reload" command without enter and 
>left the console ?
> > Could anyone can tell me the possible answers?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Todd
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RE: Subnetting questions

2000-10-28 Thread Daniel Cotts

It would include the routers IP address. The trick to the question is that
number of hosts are a power of two. Within the range of addresses the first
address refers to the subnet and the last address is the broadcast address
of the subnet. So a 255.255.255.240 mask will only yield 14 host addresses.
You have to go to a 255.255.255.224 mask that gives 32 addresses with 30
usable for hosts.

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> In a subnetting scenario, say for example they say that "Configure the
> ethernet network so that it can support 16 hosts."
> 
> Do they mean 16 hosts including all the IP's for the routers 
> in the network,
> or does it mean 16 host IP's in addition to the router IP's.
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Re: A unbelieveable experence!!!!

2000-10-28 Thread John Hardman

Hi

You are not alone! There is some bug when connecting/disconnecting to the
small switches with a notebook and hyperjunk. I have seen this many times
with the 3500 and 2400XL cats. I really don't know if the bug is with the
program, the cable, the switch, or the combination. But there is definately
something.

HTH
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> I won't power off the switch until they finish their work. But I want to
check the config file in the
> running 3524 switch, I connect the console to my notebook. When I press
the "Enter" key in my
> hyperterm window, I expected to see the enter passwrod prompt. But I saw
the switch was rebooting.
> All the ports were turn green!!! Then I got a lot of serious complains
>
> Is this possible happened? Or somebody issued a "reload" command without
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Re: Frame Switch

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:

> I have a 2523 in my lab configured as a Frame Relay Switch.
> All the serial ports are acting as DCE providing clocking to the routers.
> Initially, all clock rates were set to 64000 but I changed it to 100 ...
> for some reason, only serial0 and serial1 accepted the new clockrate speed f
> 100 ... when i tried to enter the clock rate command on the others it
> says ... %Error: Unsupported clock rate for this interface .
> When I do a show interfaces 
> the output for serial0 and serial 1 ... the second line of the output says
> Hardware is HD64570 .
> for all the other serial interfaces . the second line of the output says
> Hardware
> is CD2430 in sync mode .
> The keywords being "in sync mode" ... I am guessing that this might be a
> reason I cannot set the clock rate on the other serial interfaces at 100
> 
> 
> Any ideas from anyone as to what is happening and why it is like that?

on 252x routers, you have 2 "high speed" serial interfaces, and 2 "low
speed" serial interfaces.  High speed usually means that it can goto 4Mbps
I believe.  Cisco usually denotes a modular high speed interface with "T",
as in like a NP-2T, or a NM-4T.  Low speed usually means that it can goto
64kps.  Low speed interfaces are denoted with an "S", like CSC-4S on a
AGS+ is 4 low speed ports.

Don't fret though, in a home lab this is fine usually.  Even 4 low speed
interfaces would allow you to do everything.

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Supernetting??

2000-10-28 Thread Deepak Sharma

Hey all

Its been 2 weeks since ive check back with the group...(ive been on
holidays =)

I see these questions on "Supernetting"...what is it...im guessing a way
to extend the bit masks on subnets???,.yes or no??

any links or book references will help

thanks
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Re: Frame Switch

2000-10-28 Thread Austin

Thanks Brian!

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> On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
>
> > I have a 2523 in my lab configured as a Frame Relay Switch.
> > All the serial ports are acting as DCE providing clocking to the
routers.
> > Initially, all clock rates were set to 64000 but I changed it to 100
...
> > for some reason, only serial0 and serial1 accepted the new clockrate
speed f
> > 100 ... when i tried to enter the clock rate command on the others
it
> > says ... %Error: Unsupported clock rate for this interface .
> > When I do a show interfaces 
> > the output for serial0 and serial 1 ... the second line of the output
says
> > Hardware is HD64570 .
> > for all the other serial interfaces . the second line of the output
says
> > Hardware
> > is CD2430 in sync mode .
> > The keywords being "in sync mode" ... I am guessing that this might be a
> > reason I cannot set the clock rate on the other serial interfaces at
100
> > 
> >
> > Any ideas from anyone as to what is happening and why it is like that?
>
> on 252x routers, you have 2 "high speed" serial interfaces, and 2 "low
> speed" serial interfaces.  High speed usually means that it can goto 4Mbps
> I believe.  Cisco usually denotes a modular high speed interface with "T",
> as in like a NP-2T, or a NM-4T.  Low speed usually means that it can goto
> 64kps.  Low speed interfaces are denoted with an "S", like CSC-4S on a
> AGS+ is 4 low speed ports.
>
> Don't fret though, in a home lab this is fine usually.  Even 4 low speed
> interfaces would allow you to do everything.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
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Sub Interfaces

2000-10-28 Thread Austin

Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)

Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?

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BCMSN - Topics

2000-10-28 Thread Venkataramanaiah.R
Can somebody who took this test clear my doubt.

The BCMSN course topics does not include the ATM-LANE and FDDI and
many other topics, whereas these are listed as topics for exam in the
cisco site.

Can somebody let me know if these topics are really covered in the
exam...?

TIA

Venkat




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RE: BCMSN - Topics

2000-10-28 Thread Ehab Mohamad Abdullah



Hi,
 
it is 
not included in the exam, but you still need it for the CCIE 
written.
 
Good 
luck
 
Ehab

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  Topics
  Can somebody who took this test clear my doubt.
  The BCMSN course topics does not include the ATM-LANE and FDDI and many 
  other topics, whereas these are listed as topics for exam in the cisco 
  site.
  Can somebody let me know if these topics are really covered in the 
  exam...?
  TIAVenkat 
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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:

> Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> 
> Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?

can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
routers within that same subnet.

brian


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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-28 Thread Kenneth Lorenzo

sure. You can do it for ethernet interface or serial interfaces. You can
configure the secondary ip address on that interface.

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> Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different
routers?
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MCNs 2.0 Information Needed

2000-10-28 Thread Vincent

Hi;

  Just wondering what is the passing score and no. of questions, which
topic is important, that's,
under nda agreement, of course.  Thanks in advance!

Thanks
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Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-28 Thread NeoLink2000

In a message dated 10/29/00 12:51:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> 
> > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > 
> > Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> > Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different 
> routers?
> 
> can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
> talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
> interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
> routers within that same subnet.
> 
> brian
> 

Hey, you know what. I was going to try to answer this question but wasn't too 
sure and didn't want to steer him in the wrong way. What you said is what I 
thought but something is bothering me.

Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5 
remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for a 
different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me 
think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for each 
remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2 of 
the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it would 
work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?

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Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5 
> remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for a 
> different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me 
> think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for each 
> remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2 of 
> the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it would 
> work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?

The whole point of point-to-multipoint is to connect to more than one
remote.  If you run point to multipoint on a subinterface, you can map
more than one dlci/destination pair.  

If you had 5 remotes and 5 interfaces, then you would no doubt have 5
networks, and would probably want to run point-to-point.  Unless you had
more than one remote on a network, then you would run
point-to-multipointall I am saying is the only reason you would
run point to multipoint in the first place is if you had more than one
destination off a subinterface.

Brian


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Security and multiservice

2000-10-28 Thread Bilal Arif Dar

Hii
heyy guyz i've been looking for some online material on security and
multiservice but i wasnt able to find any thing of my interest from ccie
written point of view.
I would be gratefull if someone can guide me
Thanx in advance
Regards,
Bilal

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RE: Not receiving ICMP messages

2000-10-28 Thread Vijay Sawal

All,

I am facing a similar issue and did some preliminary research. Hope you have 
already tried this!?

1. PMTU Black hole detection on the NT Server
2. Upgrade the NT server to latest Service Pack
3. Verifying that ICMP unreachable are reaching back to the NT Server
4. Decreasing the MTU size on NT server
5. Increasing the MTU size on the Routers

Out of the above option 4 and 5 depends/impacts the other system an LAN and 
WAN. But option 1, 2 and 3 can be tried. The following links provide 
sufficient information to implement the same.

Why Can't I Browse the Internet when Using a GRE Tunnel?
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html

PMTU Black Hole Detection Algorithm Change for Windows NT 3.51
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q136/9/70.asp


Adjusting IP MTU, TCP MSS, and PMTUD on Windows and Sun Systems
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/38.shtml

Windows TCP/IP Registry Entries
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q158/4/74.asp

Vijay


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>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Donohue, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Phil Barker'" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Gareth Hinton" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Not receiving ICMP messages
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:44:15 -0700
>
>At 07:36 AM 10/25/00, Donohue, Steve wrote:
>
>>I found this link as well that is why I am wondering about the lack of 
>>ICMP
>>messages.  I realize that when you enable HSRP on an interface it disables
>>ICMP redirects.  Would the ICMP messages requesting a smaller MTU size 
>>fall
>>under this category?
>
>No (unless there's a bug, which I haven't heard is the case)
>
>
>>Thanks again all.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:22 AM
>>To: Gareth Hinton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Not receiving ICMP messages
>>
>>
>>Gareth,
>>   This is a better link.
>>
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>--- Gareth Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote: > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > Is the MTU size of 1476 a limitation of the
>> > encryption, or merely because of
>> > the overheads added by the encryption knocking it
>> > down from 1500. Is it a
>> > possibility to increase the MTU size on the link?
>> >
>> > Gaz
>> >
>> > "Phil Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
>> > message
>> >
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>> > > Steve,
>> > >  Without CLI access your going to struggle.
>> > > Q : How far does the traceroute get, from the send
>> > > node ?
>> > >
>> > > try  rfc 792 ICMP
>> > > http://www.landfield.com/rfcs/rfc792.html
>> > >
>> > > >> SNIP from RFC 792
>> > >
>> > >   If a host reassembling a fragmented datagram
>> > > cannot complete the
>> > >   reassembly due to missing fragments within
>> > its
>> > > time limit it
>> > >   discards the datagram, and it may send a
>> > time
>> > > exceeded message.
>> > >
>> > >   If fragment zero is not available then no
>> > time
>> > > exceeded need be
>> > >   sent at all.
>> > >
>> > > Good luck,
>> > >
>> > > Phil.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- "Donohue, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > Good Afternoon All,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am currently trying to resolve an issue where
>> > we
>> > > > are having trouble
>> > > > sending data across a tunnel running GRE
>> > encryption.
>> > > >  With this encryption
>> > > > employed the MTU size allowed is decreased to
>> > 1476.
>> > > > When we attempt to send
>> > > > traffic (email, ftp, etc...) through the tunnel,
>> > we
>> > > > are finding that it does
>> > > > not work.
>> > > >
>> > > > My sniffer trace is showing that the frames
>> > being
>> > > > sent are setting the DF
>> > > > bit, which I would expect.  I would then expect
>> > that
>> > > > if the router is unable
>> > > > to send the packet, it would drop it and return
>> > an
>> > > > ICMP message back to the
>> > > > source telling it to decrease the packet size
>> > and
>> > > > try it again.  I am not
>> > > > seeing any of these messages.
>> > > >
>> > > > We are running HSRP on the ethernet interfaces
>> > that
>> > > > connect to my LAN.  I
>> > > > believe we are running a 12.0 IOS release,
>> > although
>> > > > I am not sure of the
>> > > > actual version.
>> > > >
>> > > > Does anyone have any ideas why this might be
>> > > > happening?  I am trying to
>> > > > resolve this issue while having no CLI access to
>> > the
>> > > > routers.  I have been
>> > > > informed by the controlling body that there are
>> > no
>> > > > access lists prohibiting
>> > > > ICMP messages from being sent, and there are no
>> > > > firewall rules in place that
>> > > > would be dropping the ICMP messages.
>> > > >
>> > > > Any and all explanations of possible
>> > > > causes/resolutions would be
>> > > > appreciated.
>> > > >
>> > > > Steve D.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>>