RE: Help Needed

2000-12-02 Thread whitaker

Don't know if this applies or not, but check out:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/770/39.shtml

This lists a known issue with the 7507 causing this output.

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Abdul Mujeeb
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 9:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help Needed


Hi

While doing the RSP failover test for cisco 7507 running on IOS version
12.0(13).
i found this message
What does this below output mean ,


19:%SYS-3-CPUHOG: Task ran for 2968 msec (53/44), process = Microc
ode Loader, PC = 602A6368.
-Traceback= 602A6370 602A6D64 602A43AC 60251804 602517F0

Dec  2 21:41:21: %RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE: Slave changed state from Slave to
Non-parti
cipant
Dec  2 21:41:22: %RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE: Slave changed state from
Non-participant to
 Slave




is it something normal

Thanks in Advance.

Regards,
Abdul Mujeeb

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Re: Lab router management

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

Wouldn't happen to have a sample script laying around by any chance Erik?



>From: "Erik Mintz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Erik Mintz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Ben Hockenhull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Lab router management
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:12:26 -0500
>
>Set up a terminal server with console connections to all the routers.
>You will need to power clear the routers to begin the process. the best
>setup would be by using remote power switches.
>Write a script that sends a break to the terminal servers. Then sends
>commands for setting the required configs, setting aliases and then do a
>tftpdnld ( in case they changed the IOS.)
>
>-Erik
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>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ben Hockenhull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:10 PM
>Subject: Lab router management
>
>
>| A student of mine just came into my office and posed this problem to me:
>|
>| Given a set of lab routers, where a student is allowed to do anything 
>they
>| wish to the router, how can things be set up so that the router is
>| automatically restored to a known default configuration at the end of the
>| student's session?
>|
>| My initial response is that there's really no good way to do this, short
>| of special boot roms that would somehow intelligently tftpboot.
>|
>| boot net statements won't work, as the student can remove them.
>| config register frobbing won't work, as the student can change the config
>| register, and, indeed, might have to do so to practice password recovery.
>|
>| Given that the student can change config registers, write erase, set
>| enable passwords, reload, etc, how do labs manage their routers in these
>| situations?  He seemed to think that Cisco Academy has some kind of
>| software that helps them with this problem, but I don't see how it's
>| possible.
>|
>| Seems to me that all you can really do is have a staff of people to set
>| things right all the time.
>|
>| Anyone have any ideas?
>|
>| Ben
>|
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bgp question and subnetting

2000-12-02 Thread whitaker

Scenario:
Let's say you have a class C subnet that you break off into two smaller
networks:

1.1.1.0/24 = 1.1.1.0/25 + 1.1.1.128/25

Problem:
You are announcing this through BGP, but your provider only allows you to
advertise full class C addresses.  The problem lies in that you have to
announce this network as 1.1.1.0/24 but still get traffic to 1.1.1.0/25 &
1.1.1.128/25.

Solution:
So, there are two ways to do this:

1) Use an aggregate-address with a suppress map to filter this.

router bgp 
network 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.128
network 1.1.1.128 mask 255.255.255.128
aggregate-address 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 suppress-map mysupressmap
!
route-map mysuppressmap permit 10
match ip address 20
!
access-list 20 permit 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.128
access-list 20 permit 1.1.1.128 0.0.0.128
!
int vlan 1
ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.128
no shut
!
int vlan 2
ip add 1.1.1.129 255.255.255.128
no shut


2) Use null routes

router bgp 
network 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
!
ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 null 0
!
int vlan 1
ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.128
no shut
!
int vlan 2
ip add 1.1.1.129 255.255.255.128
no shut


Question:
Which way do you all feel is better?

I read in Boson's test that the preferred way is to use aggregate addresses,
but this seems to be a much more complex way to do what a simple null route
can accomplish?  Thought / comments?

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BCRAN question

2000-12-02 Thread whitaker

For those of you that have passed this test, how important is it to know the
various models of routers?  I'm familiar with the different series routers
and what Cisco recommends them for (i.e., branch office, telecommuter,
central office), but do you have to know it down to actual port
configurations? (i.e., model 25xx has so many serial ports, so many async
ports, and so many ethernet ports, etc).  It seems rather futile knowing
this since in practice one can always look in the product guide, but the
BCRAN book I have says it is important to know this stuff.


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Re: Help Needed

2000-12-02 Thread James Wilson

Normal, no. Common, yes.

i.e Its quite common to see CPUHOG messages when performing online
insertion and removal on a router. Though in a perfect world this would
not be normal behavior.

All it means is that a process, in this case the Microcode Loader, has
taken up alot of CPU time (possibly hung) and the watchdog has terminated
the process to allow other processes to use the CPU. Most likely this
process was affected by the online insertion or removal (as you would
expect for a microcode loader) and as a result needs to be whipped back
inline.

The other two messages from RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE are normal.

Cheers

On  0, Abdul Mujeeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> While doing the RSP failover test for cisco 7507 running on IOS version
> 12.0(13).
> i found this message
> What does this below output mean , 
>
> 
> 19:%SYS-3-CPUHOG: Task ran for 2968 msec (53/44), process = Microc
> ode Loader, PC = 602A6368.
> -Traceback= 602A6370 602A6D64 602A43AC 60251804 602517F0
> 
> Dec  2 21:41:21: %RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE: Slave changed state from Slave to
> Non-parti
> cipant
> Dec  2 21:41:22: %RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE: Slave changed state from
> Non-participant to
>  Slave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> is it something normal 
> 
> Thanks in Advance.
> 
> Regards,
> Abdul Mujeeb
> 
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Re: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

I highly doubt that, why would they care how you decided to spend your 
preparation time?  That is just plain smart.


>From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Speed Tip
>Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 22:29:50 -0600 (CST)
>
>On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, James Wilson wrote:
>
> > Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this 
>file
> > somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> > rules.
>
>do you mean like if you did "File->Save" in notepad?
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Re: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

I was thinking about this earlier.  A thought I had was to also make up a 
list of all the router interfaces and their corresponding IP addresses, and 
put them in a list like so:

ip host r1s0 10.1.1.4
ip host r2eo 172.16.1.1
ip host r5t0 172.16.2.1
ip host r6fe1 192.168.6.1

r1=router1  r2=router2 etc
s=serial   e= ethernet  t=token-ringfe=fast-ethernet  etc

Once you have compiled a list of all the interfaces and their IP addresses 
according to your addressing scheme, paste them into each router. You can 
then ping quickly and accurately, anywhere you want by typing 'ping r1s0' 
for example, and not having to cross reference a table every time you need 
to lookup an IP address.

To make it intuitive, I would also use the numbering on the octal cables to 
correspond too.  ie: cable 1 goes to router1 and so on.  Hitting '2' at the 
terminal server will put you at router2's prompt etc.


How's that for a tip?




>From: "Tony Olzak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Tony Olzak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Speed Tip
>Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:54:44 -0500
>
>Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the lab. 
>Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
>
>en
>config t
>ip classless
>ip subnet-zero
>no ip domain-lookup
>alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
>alias exec ci clear ip route *
>alias exec cx clear ipx route *
>alias exec i show ip route
>alias exec ix show ipx route
>alias exec si show ip interface brief
>alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
>enable secret cisco
>
>line con 0
>exec-timeout 0 0
>password cisco
>
>line aux 0
>exec-timeout 0 0
>password cisco
>
>line vty 0 4
>exec-timeout 0 0
>password cisco
>
>Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
>
>Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the terminal 
>program.
>
>I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at every 
>router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
>
>Tony
>

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Help Needed

2000-12-02 Thread Abdul Mujeeb

Hi 

While doing the RSP failover test for cisco 7507 running on IOS version
12.0(13).
i found this message
What does this below output mean , 
   

19:%SYS-3-CPUHOG: Task ran for 2968 msec (53/44), process = Microc
ode Loader, PC = 602A6368.
-Traceback= 602A6370 602A6D64 602A43AC 60251804 602517F0

Dec  2 21:41:21: %RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE: Slave changed state from Slave to
Non-parti
cipant
Dec  2 21:41:22: %RSP-3-SLAVECHANGE: Slave changed state from
Non-participant to
 Slave




is it something normal 

Thanks in Advance.

Regards,
Abdul Mujeeb

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RE: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Rats...

About the only GOOD habit I have is frequent saving of open files.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   James Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, December 02, 2000 8:27 PM
To: Chuck Larrieu
Cc: Tony Olzak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Speed Tip

Hi Chuck,

Whilst you are permitted to use Notepad or any other program present on
your Testing PC, the rules of the CCIE Lab state without that at _no time_
can you save a file to the hard disk.

If during the marking breaks the CCIE proctor finds that you have saved a
file to the hard drive anywhere he will fail you immediately.

Cheers.

On  0, Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rules of the game: I trust you mean that you must remember to delete the
> file from the PC you are using prior to leaving. I.e. you can't leave it
for
> the next person to find. Correct?
>
> I have received tips such as Tony's from other sources. If you check my
> feeble web site www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt you will see that one of those
> from whom I have gathered advice has offered something similar. I have
also
> received this advice verbally from a couple of folks as well.
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> James Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> To:   Tony Olzak
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Speed Tip
>
> Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
> somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> rules.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the
> lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
> >
> > en
> > config t
> > ip classless
> > ip subnet-zero
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> > alias exec ci clear ip route *
> > alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> > alias exec i show ip route
> > alias exec ix show ipx route
> > alias exec si show ip interface brief
> > alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> > enable secret cisco
> >
> > line con 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line aux 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line vty 0 4
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> >
> > Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the
terminal
> program.
> >
> > I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at
> every router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
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Exam Info 640-507

2000-12-02 Thread Dyland Desmarais

>From my test i gave 2 points you need to focus on:
1.) know your OSI model inside out and backwards
2.) know your IOS commands and how to use the help feature.
I wasn't allowed a calculator (calc on the windows box is not available
either) but you are allowed to bring in paper and a pencil which I highly
recommend.
They will provide it for you.

Hope things go well  . . .

Dyland



I know this has been beaten to death, but 
I am taking the CCNA test on moday, and i think i have all my bases covered
but i'd like to know what you guys and gals think i need to review on. What
were the main topics covered in the exam you have taken?? 
Final question: are you allowed to use a calculater or is all of the
subnetting done in your (my) head??? 
Many thanks in advance

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Re: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread James Wilson

Hi Chuck,

Whilst you are permitted to use Notepad or any other program present on
your Testing PC, the rules of the CCIE Lab state without that at _no time_
can you save a file to the hard disk.

If during the marking breaks the CCIE proctor finds that you have saved a
file to the hard drive anywhere he will fail you immediately.

Cheers.

On  0, Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rules of the game: I trust you mean that you must remember to delete the
> file from the PC you are using prior to leaving. I.e. you can't leave it for
> the next person to find. Correct?
> 
> I have received tips such as Tony's from other sources. If you check my
> feeble web site www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt you will see that one of those
> from whom I have gathered advice has offered something similar. I have also
> received this advice verbally from a couple of folks as well.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> James Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> To:   Tony Olzak
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Speed Tip
> 
> Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
> somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> rules.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the
> lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
> >
> > en
> > config t
> > ip classless
> > ip subnet-zero
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> > alias exec ci clear ip route *
> > alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> > alias exec i show ip route
> > alias exec ix show ipx route
> > alias exec si show ip interface brief
> > alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> > enable secret cisco
> >
> > line con 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line aux 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line vty 0 4
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> >
> > Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the terminal
> program.
> >
> > I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at
> every router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> 
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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

2000-12-02 Thread Kevin_Cullimore

agnostic might be too strong a term to lavish upon a company that preaches
"open standards" at prospective customers (such as isl, pim, cgmp, igrp,
eigrp,their layer 2 hdlc & the rest-meaning, anything they developed in
isolation and imposed, or are waiting to impose, upon the rest of the
ip-vulnerable community). while i'm quite certain that they will attempt to
assimilate any commercially non-trivial communication standard into their
operating systems, i'm concerned that it's not a legitimate question to ask
about a single direction they might stumble along for both the backbone and
the lan, since they will obviously follow the divergent trends in each
market, no matter the implications for their current technological
investments (btw: there exists a non-zero chance that the technologies in
both spaces will converge. in that unlikely event, i'm more than certain
that cisco won't hesitate in cannibalizing one division to capitalize on
the other) . .. .

anyway, if you're truly concerned about anticipating their future, please
understand that it has less to do with their current product set as we all
understand it and far more to do with how they anticipate they might
eviscerate their competitors and conquer markets that they have yet to
redefine. my assumption all along was that they were not willing to play
the nortel game of consolidating their wan and lan technologies (as alluded
to in the previous paragraph) but they might yet prove to be the microsloth
of the data communications space (nota bene: they've already made
considerable progress in this venture).

a not-completely-insipid rule of thumb might be to assume that cisco is
actively plotting to invade any data-communications technology space that
either has market share or a company hawking its wares at a suffciently
alluring stock price.

(please note that it remains somewhat insipid . . . thanks)







Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 12/02/2000
04:45:39 PM

Please respond to Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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To:   "cslx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
Subject:  Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?


Cisco is agnostic with regards to technology and protocols. Cisco attempts
to implement almost all viable protocols. That's their philosophy. So
you'll see them implement solutions for customers who want ATM and
solutions for customers who want SONET in the backbone.

With that said, if your question is about ATM on a campus network, we heard
recently that they are removing LAN Emulation (LANE) from the CCIE test, so
that may say something about their direction, or I could be reading too
much into that decision.

Priscilla

At 07:24 AM 12/2/00, cslx wrote:
>anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
>I want to know which field cisco want focus on in the next decade.
>IP over ATM switch at the backbone
>or IP over sonet at the backbone
>that means for the man or campus network, which one is cisco's prefer
choice
>or has the priority?
>any1 can foresee the furture of ATM in china, and will it be replaced by
>using total ip switching over backbone sonet transwmission?
>I am seriously asking this question.
>
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Re: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Darren Ward

Is there a copy of the Lab Rules outside of the Lab itself?

I'd like to read through them before taking it ;)

James Wilson wrote:

> Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
> somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> rules.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the lab. Here's 
>how I do a base config on all my routers:
> >
> > en
> > config t
> > ip classless
> > ip subnet-zero
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> > alias exec ci clear ip route *
> > alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> > alias exec i show ip route
> > alias exec ix show ipx route
> > alias exec si show ip interface brief
> > alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> > enable secret cisco
> >
> > line con 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line aux 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line vty 0 4
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> >
> > Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the terminal program.
> >
> > I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at every 
>router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
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DNS and PIX

2000-12-02 Thread Austin

We have our own Web Server with a legal ip address which is NAT'd (is that a
word?) from our LAN to the outside?
Where do I put the DNS Server? Behind the PIX on the LAN (inside interface)
or the outside interface?


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RE: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Rules of the game: I trust you mean that you must remember to delete the
file from the PC you are using prior to leaving. I.e. you can't leave it for
the next person to find. Correct?

I have received tips such as Tony's from other sources. If you check my
feeble web site www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt you will see that one of those
from whom I have gathered advice has offered something similar. I have also
received this advice verbally from a couple of folks as well.

Chuck

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James Wilson
Sent:   Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:41 PM
To: Tony Olzak
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Subject:Re: Speed Tip

Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
rules.

Cheers.

On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the
lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
>
> en
> config t
> ip classless
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip domain-lookup
> alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> alias exec ci clear ip route *
> alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> alias exec i show ip route
> alias exec ix show ipx route
> alias exec si show ip interface brief
> alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> enable secret cisco
>
> line con 0
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
>
> line aux 0
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
>
> line vty 0 4
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
>
> Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
>
> Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the terminal
program.
>
> I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at
every router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
>
> Tony
>

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Re: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Brian

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, James Wilson wrote:

> Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
> somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> rules.

do you mean like if you did "File->Save" in notepad?
>
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Re: IP over ATM ? (please explain this)

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Even better link, but it requires Shockwave:
http://www.decodes.com/protocol/protocol.htm

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> I recommend getting the OSI layers down and learn to associate things with
> it.  It'll help you along with thing such as this.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong list members, I don't feel like pulling up my
> decodes map:
> ATM is primarily layer 2 (there are a few layer 3 elements).  IP is
strictly
> Layer 3.  Yes, you're correct about it being similar to the way IP can
ride
> over a Frame Relay encapsulation (layer 2), which rides on T1/Fractional
T1
> DS0s (layer 1).
>
> Whenever trying to learn a new technology, put it into the OSI model and
> find out how it ties in with the layers above and below.
>
> I've links to two protocol decode maps (of course you can find others):
> ftp://artoo.net/pub/doc/decodes.pdf
> ftp://artoo.net/pub/doc/NAI-Protocols-Map.pdf
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> > with
> > basic questions. well, i have been reading the books
> > and archives as well. but sometimes one does need
> > a human response to clearly understand "the point".
> > i have some fundamental questions for ATM. (ok i have
> > been reading the www.atmforum.org site as well).
> > what does the following phrase mean ?"IP OVER ATM
> > SWITCH"
> > as i understand ATM is used for connecting end to end
> > points. ie say a customers router would connect to a
> > ATM service provider via a ATM connection. correct ?
> > it is much the same as one connects one's router to a
> > Frame Relay network.(via the router's serialinterface)
> > hence IP over ATM switch would mean that the serial
> > connection is carrying IP traffic ? correct ?
> > If any one would be intersted in answering thisoffline
> > please do so, if such questions are not suited forthislist.thanksbrian
> >
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Re: IP over ATM ? (please explain this)

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

I recommend getting the OSI layers down and learn to associate things with
it.  It'll help you along with thing such as this.

Correct me if I'm wrong list members, I don't feel like pulling up my
decodes map:
ATM is primarily layer 2 (there are a few layer 3 elements).  IP is strictly
Layer 3.  Yes, you're correct about it being similar to the way IP can ride
over a Frame Relay encapsulation (layer 2), which rides on T1/Fractional T1
DS0s (layer 1).

Whenever trying to learn a new technology, put it into the OSI model and
find out how it ties in with the layers above and below.

I've links to two protocol decode maps (of course you can find others):
ftp://artoo.net/pub/doc/decodes.pdf
ftp://artoo.net/pub/doc/NAI-Protocols-Map.pdf

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"Brian Dellong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> hi all,i am sure you all have been seeing my emails
> with
> basic questions. well, i have been reading the books
> and archives as well. but sometimes one does need
> a human response to clearly understand "the point".
> i have some fundamental questions for ATM. (ok i have
> been reading the www.atmforum.org site as well).
> what does the following phrase mean ?"IP OVER ATM
> SWITCH"
> as i understand ATM is used for connecting end to end
> points. ie say a customers router would connect to a
> ATM service provider via a ATM connection. correct ?
> it is much the same as one connects one's router to a
> Frame Relay network.(via the router's serialinterface)
> hence IP over ATM switch would mean that the serial
> connection is carrying IP traffic ? correct ?
> If any one would be intersted in answering thisoffline
> please do so, if such questions are not suited forthislist.thanksbrian
>
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Re: Exam Info 640-507

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

No calculator.  I recommend just memorizing the subnet tables and writting
them down first thing (before you even hit "start" on the test).

Any IOS experience?

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I know this has been beaten to death, but

I am taking the CCNA test on moday, and i think i have all my bases covered
but i'd like to know what you guys and gals think i need to review on.  What
were the main topics covered in the exam you have taken??

Final question: are you allowed to use a calculater or is all of the
subnetting done in your (my) head???

Many thanks in advance

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IP over ATM ? (please explain this)

2000-12-02 Thread Brian Dellong

hi all,i am sure you all have been seeing my emails
with
basic questions. well, i have been reading the books
and archives as well. but sometimes one does need
a human response to clearly understand "the point".
i have some fundamental questions for ATM. (ok i have
been reading the www.atmforum.org site as well).
what does the following phrase mean ?"IP OVER ATM
SWITCH"
as i understand ATM is used for connecting end to end
points. ie say a customers router would connect to a
ATM service provider via a ATM connection. correct ?
it is much the same as one connects one's router to a
Frame Relay network.(via the router's serialinterface)
hence IP over ATM switch would mean that the serial 
connection is carrying IP traffic ? correct ?
If any one would be intersted in answering thisoffline
please do so, if such questions are not suited forthislist.thanksbrian

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CCIE Lab date - trade

2000-12-02 Thread Louie Belt

I have a March 5th Lab date (Halifax) that I would like to trade for an
earlier one if anyone is interested.

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Re: Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread James Wilson

Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
rules.

Cheers.

On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the lab. Here's 
>how I do a base config on all my routers:
> 
> en
> config t
> ip classless
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip domain-lookup
> alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> alias exec ci clear ip route *
> alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> alias exec i show ip route
> alias exec ix show ipx route
> alias exec si show ip interface brief
> alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> enable secret cisco
> 
> line con 0
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
> 
> line aux 0
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
> 
> line vty 0 4
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
> 
> Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> 
> Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the terminal program.
> 
> I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at every router. 
>This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> 
> Tony
> 

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RE: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router'sserialport

2000-12-02 Thread Sam Adams

Aw, setting it first is always helpful.:)

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Subject: Re: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router's
serialport


Actually, I had the command I meant.  The one thing I didn't mention is that
you must specify 'ip route-cache flow' for any interface you wish to view
with 'sh ip cache flow.'  After which, you'll be rewarded with information
such as the following:

#sh ip cache flow
IP packet size distribution (15230 total packets):
   1-32   64   96  128  160  192  224  256  288  320  352  384  416  448
480
   .000 .348 .000 .000 .000 .000 .001 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000
.000

512  544  576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608
   .000 .000 .000 .000 .647 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000

IP Flow Switching Cache, 278544 bytes
  3 active, 4093 inactive, 42 added
  1075 ager polls, 0 flow alloc failures
  Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
  Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds
  last clearing of statistics never
Protocol TotalFlows   Packets Bytes  Packets Active(Sec)
Idle(Sec)
 Flows /Sec /Flow  /Pkt /Sec /Flow /Flow
TCP-Telnet   5  0.01940  0.0  10.9  15.8
TCP-NNTP 2  0.0 563  0.0   0.6  15.4
TCP-other2  0.020   163  0.0   4.7   1.9
UDP-DNS  1  0.0 155  0.0   0.0  15.4
UDP-NTP  9  0.0 176  0.0   0.0  15.6
UDP-other   20  0.0 1   149  0.0   0.0  15.5
Total:  39  0.0 483  0.0   1.6  14.9

SrcIf SrcIPaddressDstIf DstIPaddressPr SrcP DstP
Pkts
Et1   192.168.45.11   Local 192.168.45.254  06 0437 0017
7
Et1   192.168.45.11   Null  207.92.43.4 06 044D 06BE
5183
Et0   207.92.43.4 Local 63.206.176.163  06 06BE 044D
9870

It doesn't know all protocols.  For instance, a large ftp I having going
falls under UDP-other (IE's ftp doesn't maintain tcp sessions).  I went back
and used the ftp.exe util and got:
#sh ip cache flow
IP packet size distribution (31565 total packets):
   1-32   64   96  128  160  192  224  256  288  320  352  384  416  448
480
   .000 .350 .001 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000
.000

512  544  576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608
   .000 .000 .000 .000 .646 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000

IP Flow Switching Cache, 278544 bytes
  6 active, 4090 inactive, 95 added
  2311 ager polls, 0 flow alloc failures
  Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
  Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds
  last clearing of statistics never
Protocol TotalFlows   Packets Bytes  Packets Active(Sec)
Idle(Sec)
 Flows /Sec /Flow  /Pkt /Sec /Flow /Flow
TCP-Telnet  11  0.01040  0.0   6.9  15.7
TCP-FTP  4  0.01781  0.0  17.2  15.6
TCP-FTPD 4  0.0 4   125  0.0   0.4   1.4
TCP-NNTP 2  0.0 563  0.0   0.6  15.4
TCP-other4  0.0  6737   994  0.0 169.3   1.6
UDP-DNS  4  0.0 157  0.0   0.0  15.4
UDP-NTP 18  0.0 176  0.0   0.0  15.6
UDP-other   42  0.0 1   148  0.0   0.0  15.5
Total:  89  0.0   306   985  0.0   9.2  14.3

SrcIf SrcIPaddressDstIf DstIPaddressPr SrcP DstP
Pkts
Et1   192.168.45.14   Local 192.168.45.254  06 04BB 0017
1
Et1   192.168.45.11   Local 192.168.45.254  06 0437 0017
54
Et0   207.92.43.4 Local 63.206.176.163  06 0014 0455
2782
Et1   192.168.45.11   Null  207.92.43.4 06 0455 0014
1501
Et1   192.168.45.252  Null  224.0.0.9   11 0208 0208
1
Et1   192.168.45.253  Null  224.0.0.9   11 0208 0208
1

Anyway, hope this helps.  No sure off the top of my head which IOS this was
adding in, but I'm betting at least 12.0.

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>
> show ip cache A.B.C.D
>   Ethernet  IEEE 802.3
>   Loopback  Loopback interface
>   Null  Null interface
>   SerialSerial
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Exam Info 640-507

2000-12-02 Thread Patrick



I know this has been beaten to death, 
but
 
I am taking the CCNA test on moday, and i think i 
have all my bases covered but i'd like to know what you guys and gals think i 
need to review on.  What were the main topics covered in the exam you have 
taken??
 
Final question: are you allowed to use a calculater 
or is all of the subnetting done in your (my) head???
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Patrick  MCSE
System Administrator
Raytheon Systems


Re: PIX 520 flash size

2000-12-02 Thread Gernot W. Schmied

Hi,

Frank Wells wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jason.  Believe it or not, my 4.2.4 version did not mention the size
> of the flash!
> 

That's true for older Images. You can only deduce it from the serial
numbers.
(call CISCO).

> I tried loading 5.2.3 on it last night and it wouldn't boot because I only
> have 2mb flash. 

Unfortunately 5.2.x requires a flash upgrade.

>I just loaded 5.1.2 and it works fine with 2mb.

Correct.

Regards,
Gernot

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Re: Deciphering the default-metric command...

2000-12-02 Thread Nigel Taylor

Frank,
If I'm not mistaken the use if that command would provide a
default-metric "64000 2 225 1 1500 " to all of the eigrp interfaces under
eigrp 1.  As far as I can remember this command can aslo be used on an
individual network statement as well -  "network 10.10.0.0 default-mertic
64000 2 225 1 1500".  Basically all the interface that are listed under the
eigrp process 1 will use this metric.  In this lab the example...

router eigrp 1
redistribute bgp 200
network 195.19.15.0
default-mertic 64000 2 225 1 1500

This would apply the default metric to all the bgp routes that's being
redistributed
 back into (your IGP) eigrp.  It would do the same thing for the 195.19.15.0
route.

Remember that your distance vector protocols like igrp and eigrp use the
various metrics in order to calculate a specific route and then add it to
the Routing Information Base(RIB). These protocols use;

1-  Bandwidth
2-  Delay
3-  Load
4-  Reliability
5-  MTU

However your Link-state protocols(like OSPF/IS-IS) and path-vector
protocols(like BGP)
don't use these metric values.  So when redistributing these protocols
you'll have to have these metrics
defined in order for the redistribution to take place correctly.


HTH

Nigel.

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From: Frank Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: Deciphering the default-metric command...


> Just did the Fatkid Basic BGP lab #320.  I am trying to understand why I
> needed the command default-metric 64000 2 225 1 1500 under the eigrp 1
> process on router 4.  I could not advertise the 10.0.0.0 network from
> router4 to the other members of AS 200 until I used it.  I just want to
hear
> some explanantions as to why.  What default-metric did this command change
?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> http://www.fatkid.com/html/320_basic_bgp.html
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Re: Deciphering the default-metric command...

2000-12-02 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Don't you need to give the protocol's routes a default (or "base") metric
whenever you redistribute routing protocols with incompatible metrics?
EIGRP has a composite metric, whereas BGP has...well, I don't know what it
has off the top of my head...an AS path?  Either way, they're not the same
thing, so you've gotta give the router a little "push" when it does the
redistribution.

BJ



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Subject: Deciphering the default-metric command...


Just did the Fatkid Basic BGP lab #320.  I am trying to understand why I
needed the command default-metric 64000 2 225 1 1500 under the eigrp 1
process on router 4.  I could not advertise the 10.0.0.0 network from
router4 to the other members of AS 200 until I used it.  I just want to hear
some explanantions as to why.  What default-metric did this command change ?

Thanks a lot

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Re: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router's serial port

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Actually, I had the command I meant.  The one thing I didn't mention is that
you must specify 'ip route-cache flow' for any interface you wish to view
with 'sh ip cache flow.'  After which, you'll be rewarded with information
such as the following:

#sh ip cache flow
IP packet size distribution (15230 total packets):
   1-32   64   96  128  160  192  224  256  288  320  352  384  416  448
480
   .000 .348 .000 .000 .000 .000 .001 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000
.000

512  544  576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608
   .000 .000 .000 .000 .647 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000

IP Flow Switching Cache, 278544 bytes
  3 active, 4093 inactive, 42 added
  1075 ager polls, 0 flow alloc failures
  Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
  Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds
  last clearing of statistics never
Protocol TotalFlows   Packets Bytes  Packets Active(Sec)
Idle(Sec)
 Flows /Sec /Flow  /Pkt /Sec /Flow /Flow
TCP-Telnet   5  0.01940  0.0  10.9  15.8
TCP-NNTP 2  0.0 563  0.0   0.6  15.4
TCP-other2  0.020   163  0.0   4.7   1.9
UDP-DNS  1  0.0 155  0.0   0.0  15.4
UDP-NTP  9  0.0 176  0.0   0.0  15.6
UDP-other   20  0.0 1   149  0.0   0.0  15.5
Total:  39  0.0 483  0.0   1.6  14.9

SrcIf SrcIPaddressDstIf DstIPaddressPr SrcP DstP
Pkts
Et1   192.168.45.11   Local 192.168.45.254  06 0437 0017
7
Et1   192.168.45.11   Null  207.92.43.4 06 044D 06BE
5183
Et0   207.92.43.4 Local 63.206.176.163  06 06BE 044D
9870

It doesn't know all protocols.  For instance, a large ftp I having going
falls under UDP-other (IE's ftp doesn't maintain tcp sessions).  I went back
and used the ftp.exe util and got:
#sh ip cache flow
IP packet size distribution (31565 total packets):
   1-32   64   96  128  160  192  224  256  288  320  352  384  416  448
480
   .000 .350 .001 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000
.000

512  544  576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608
   .000 .000 .000 .000 .646 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000

IP Flow Switching Cache, 278544 bytes
  6 active, 4090 inactive, 95 added
  2311 ager polls, 0 flow alloc failures
  Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
  Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds
  last clearing of statistics never
Protocol TotalFlows   Packets Bytes  Packets Active(Sec)
Idle(Sec)
 Flows /Sec /Flow  /Pkt /Sec /Flow /Flow
TCP-Telnet  11  0.01040  0.0   6.9  15.7
TCP-FTP  4  0.01781  0.0  17.2  15.6
TCP-FTPD 4  0.0 4   125  0.0   0.4   1.4
TCP-NNTP 2  0.0 563  0.0   0.6  15.4
TCP-other4  0.0  6737   994  0.0 169.3   1.6
UDP-DNS  4  0.0 157  0.0   0.0  15.4
UDP-NTP 18  0.0 176  0.0   0.0  15.6
UDP-other   42  0.0 1   148  0.0   0.0  15.5
Total:  89  0.0   306   985  0.0   9.2  14.3

SrcIf SrcIPaddressDstIf DstIPaddressPr SrcP DstP
Pkts
Et1   192.168.45.14   Local 192.168.45.254  06 04BB 0017
1
Et1   192.168.45.11   Local 192.168.45.254  06 0437 0017
54
Et0   207.92.43.4 Local 63.206.176.163  06 0014 0455
2782
Et1   192.168.45.11   Null  207.92.43.4 06 0455 0014
1501
Et1   192.168.45.252  Null  224.0.0.9   11 0208 0208
1
Et1   192.168.45.253  Null  224.0.0.9   11 0208 0208
1

Anyway, hope this helps.  No sure off the top of my head which IOS this was
adding in, but I'm betting at least 12.0.

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> The actual command is
>
> show ip cache A.B.C.D
>   Ethernet  IEEE 802.3
>   Loopback  Loopback interface
>   Null  Null interface
>   SerialSerial
>   policypolicy cache entries
>   verbose   display extra information
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>
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> Jason Roysdon
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 4:43 AM
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> Subject: Re: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router's
> serial port
>
>
> If you have ip route-cache enabled on an interface, the following will
work:
> show ip cache flow
>
> --
>

Re: PIX 520 flash size

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Thanks for the update, and you're right about the 520 not being able to take
5.2.x images without a flash upgrade.  I was mistakenly thinking our 520 was
totally current (it was a few months ago, heh).

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> Thanks Jason.  Believe it or not, my 4.2.4 version did not mention the
size
> of the flash!
>
> I tried loading 5.2.3 on it last night and it wouldn't boot because I only
> have 2mb flash.  I just loaded 5.1.2 and it works fine with 2mb.
>
> Have a good one.
>
>
> >From: "Jason Roysdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Jason Roysdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: PIX 520 flash size
> >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 05:04:04 -0800
> >
> >PIX# sh ver
> >
> >Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Version 5.1(2)
> >Compiled on Tue 16-May-00 16:09 by bhochuli
> >Finesse Bios V3.3
> >
> >ISC-Modesto-PIX up 66 days 7 hours
> >
> >Hardware:   AL440LX, 32 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 233 MHz
> >Flash AT29C040A @ 0x300, 2MB
> >BIOS Flash AM28F256 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB
> >
> >
> >BTW: I've never heard of any flash issues, as 5.2(3) still fits on
> >everything out there I've seen (506, 515R/UR, 520).
> >
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> > > Hey Guys,
> > > How does one find out the size of the PIX 520 flash without opening
the
> >box
> > > please?  Boot up info only notes size of Dram.
> > >
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Speed Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Tony Olzak



Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can 
use notepad in the lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my 
routers:
 
en
config t
ip classless
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup

alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
alias exec ci clear ip route *
alias exec cx clear ipx route *
alias exec i show ip route
alias exec ix show ipx route
alias exec si show ip interface brief
alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
enable secret cisco
 
line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
password cisco
 
line aux 0
exec-timeout 0 0
password cisco
 
line vty 0 4
exec-timeout 0 0
password cisco
 
Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are 
done.
 
Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the terminal 
program.
 
I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at every 
router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
 
Tony
 


Re: Deciphering the default-metric command...

2000-12-02 Thread Brian


Because when you redistribute a routing protocol like BGP into EIGRP, you
must specify a metric.  Metrics in BGP are meaningless in EIGRP.  I mean
if a route has a local pref of 100, a weight of 100, and a AS PATH of 100
200, how is eigrp to deal with that?  EIGRP understand load, reliability,
mtu, etc.  so you must put it into a form EIGRP can understand.

Their is no "automatic" way to convert BGP metrics to EIGRP metrics.  In
some redistribution situations you don't have to worry about specifying a
metric.

You can specify the metric the BGP routes should have within the EIGRP
process on the same line as the "redistribute" line.  Or you can specify a
"default-metric" line which will apply to the redistributed routes.
Either one would be a valid way of doing this.  You don't have to have
"default-metric" instead you could have specified the metric on the
"redistribute" line.

If you redistrbute routes into a distance vector proctocol, and it
doesn't understand the metrics of the foreign protocol, then it assigns
"-1" which is definitly not what you want.

Read a good chapter on route-redistribution, perhaps Routing TCP/IP (an
excellent source on this), and it will clear your mind.

Brian


On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Frank Wells wrote:

> Just did the Fatkid Basic BGP lab #320.  I am trying to understand why I
> needed the command default-metric 64000 2 225 1 1500 under the eigrp 1
> process on router 4.  I could not advertise the 10.0.0.0 network from
> router4 to the other members of AS 200 until I used it.  I just want to hear
> some explanantions as to why.  What default-metric did this command change ?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
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TACACS

2000-12-02 Thread Avran

Can someone help me with any links to Cisco TACACS?

Thank you.


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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

2000-12-02 Thread Darren Ward

With the diversification of the CCIE Program they simply might be going to include a
CCIE - Campus in the future ;)

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> Cisco is agnostic with regards to technology and protocols. Cisco attempts
> to implement almost all viable protocols. That's their philosophy. So
> you'll see them implement solutions for customers who want ATM and
> solutions for customers who want SONET in the backbone.
>
> With that said, if your question is about ATM on a campus network, we heard
> recently that they are removing LAN Emulation (LANE) from the CCIE test, so
> that may say something about their direction, or I could be reading too
> much into that decision.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 07:24 AM 12/2/00, cslx wrote:
> >anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
> >I want to know which field cisco want focus on in the next decade.
> >IP over ATM switch at the backbone
> >or IP over sonet at the backbone
> >that means for the man or campus network, which one is cisco's prefer choice
> >or has the priority?
> >any1 can foresee the furture of ATM in china, and will it be replaced by
> >using total ip switching over backbone sonet transwmission?
> >I am seriously asking this question.
> >
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Re: Deciphering the default-metric command...

2000-12-02 Thread Darren Ward

This actually sets the default eigrp metrics to be used to redistribute the routes.

EIGRP needs this or it can't advertise any routes.

You can also however use a route-map to then modify the metrics on a route by route 
basis
if required.

Darren

Frank Wells wrote:

> Just did the Fatkid Basic BGP lab #320.  I am trying to understand why I
> needed the command default-metric 64000 2 225 1 1500 under the eigrp 1
> process on router 4.  I could not advertise the 10.0.0.0 network from
> router4 to the other members of AS 200 until I used it.  I just want to hear
> some explanantions as to why.  What default-metric did this command change ?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
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Re: General Tip

2000-12-02 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Tony -

You mention "practice scenarios and the configuration guides"...can you
post more information about these?  URLs, or whatever?

Thanks,

BJ


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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 4:06 PM
Subject: General Tip


Group,

I wanted to share a simple thing I do that I thought really helped in my
lab. I never got a lot of access to ATM gear, so here's what I did:

I used practice scenarios and the configuration guides for different
versions of the IOS. Since I didn't have the actual gear, I tried to solve
the scenarios using notepad alone. After a couple hours of doing this, I
knew the IOS commands better than I ever would have before because I
couldn't use the help menus.

When I got to the actual lab, I flew through my ATM section and everything
worked perfectly.

I believe this to be a pretty good method for practicing any scenarios. Try
doing the whole config with only notepad, and check it against the answers
or if you have a home lab, paste in the configs to see how you did. You
won't believe the impact it will have on your speed.

May sound stupid, but it works.

BTW- You DO have access to notepad in the lab.

Tony

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Deciphering the default-metric command...

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

Just did the Fatkid Basic BGP lab #320.  I am trying to understand why I 
needed the command default-metric 64000 2 225 1 1500 under the eigrp 1 
process on router 4.  I could not advertise the 10.0.0.0 network from 
router4 to the other members of AS 200 until I used it.  I just want to hear 
some explanantions as to why.  What default-metric did this command change ?

Thanks a lot

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Skip this one - just beating a dead horse - WAS: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Well. To beat this horse to death, the DCE / DTE terminology comes from a
different era, and out of the telephone world.

DTE = date terminal equipment

DCE = data circuit equipment ( well, that's what it's called in some books.
others call it data circuit-termination equipment )

DCE is a device into which a data line or a phone line plugs in. i.e. a
modem or a CSU

DTE plugs into DCE, and it is through a DCE that a DTE is able to
communicate across a data network.

This terminology dates back to days when there was no ethernet, no token
ring, no FDDI.

Yes I know that DCE / DTE is not really correct, but in terms of concept, in
terms of keeping things straight (so to speak ), DTE equipment plugs into
DCE equipment in order to access a data network.  This requires a straight
through cable. When you connected your old PC into an external modem, you
used a straight through cable, i.e. pin 2 went to pin 2, and pin 3 went to
pin 3, your modem dialed into CompuServe and that was the network.

Following along this line of thought ( yes I know that technically it is not
correct ) you plug your  PC ( which is DTE ) into a DCE device, which allows
you to connect to your data network, using a straight through cable.

Hubs and switches, both of which are devices that allow DTE devices to
connect to the data network, are DCE. ( again, I understand, this is not
technically correct )

A router is DTE, because it is not a device which allows you to connect into
a data network, but a device which forwards packets across a data network,
some as any other DTE device. A CSU is a DCE device. Data circuits plug into
them.

When equipment of the same type ( either DCE or DTE ) connects, it requires
a flipping of the transmit/receive wires. In the world of RS232, this meant
pins 2 and 3, so that transmit went to receive and receive went to
transmit )

And while this concept is not technically correct, it sure saves a lot of
headaches in terms of whether or not a crossover cable is required.

Chuck







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Gareth Hinton
Sent:   Saturday, December 02, 2000 5:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

DTE/DCE probably doesn't fit into ethernet too well, but it does make an
easy way of remembering what needs crosses.
This may be a pie in the sky way of remembering the connections but it works
for me.

PC clearly fits  DTE category
Router in most applications used with a DTE cable (admittedly on the serial
but helps to remember it)
Switch/Hub - DCE  (

DCE-DTE needs straight

DTE-DTE needs cross
DCE-DCE needs cross

Reading through this I'm wondering whether to even send it, but it's always
been the way I've remembered it.

If it helps, good. If it doesn't forget it.

Horses for courses.

Regards,

Gaz

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> I wasn't aware that the terms DCE and DTE applied in ethernet; I thought
> they were serial communication terms.  How would you apply those terms to
> this situation?
>
> >  Hello,
> >
> >  Sometimes these things happen because not all equipment have the same
> specs.
> >  My suggestion would be to consider DTE to DTE needs at least one roll
in
> the
> >  connection, and DTE to DCE needs a straight-through or two rolls in the
> >  connection. It all hangs on the constuction of the interface connection
> and
> >  which pins it is using for transmit, receive etc.
> >  Bottom line is try to determine which interfaces(DTE or DCE) are
involved
> >  and then it is easier to choose the correct cable.
> >  Hope this helps a little.
> >
> >  Winston.
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:31 PM
> >  To: cisco
> >  Subject: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
> >
> >
> >  Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday
morning,
> >  and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:
> >
> >  My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their
existing
> >  network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
> >  stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
> >  collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
> >  switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users"
directly
> >  onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We
> attached
> >  the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.
> >
> >  The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem
> accessing
> >  the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.
> We
> >  tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
> >  either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch,
and
> >  nothing worked.  T

Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

2000-12-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cisco is agnostic with regards to technology and protocols. Cisco attempts 
to implement almost all viable protocols. That's their philosophy. So 
you'll see them implement solutions for customers who want ATM and 
solutions for customers who want SONET in the backbone.

With that said, if your question is about ATM on a campus network, we heard 
recently that they are removing LAN Emulation (LANE) from the CCIE test, so 
that may say something about their direction, or I could be reading too 
much into that decision.

Priscilla

At 07:24 AM 12/2/00, cslx wrote:
>anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
>I want to know which field cisco want focus on in the next decade.
>IP over ATM switch at the backbone
>or IP over sonet at the backbone
>that means for the man or campus network, which one is cisco's prefer choice
>or has the priority?
>any1 can foresee the furture of ATM in china, and will it be replaced by
>using total ip switching over backbone sonet transwmission?
>I am seriously asking this question.
>
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another one passes the BSCN

2000-12-02 Thread whitaker

Just passed the BSCN today - thanks to everyone who helped answer my routing
questions!

Although I did pass, I'm still going to go back and do some reviewing,
particularly on redistribution.

Three down, two to go...


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Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

2000-12-02 Thread Nigel Taylor

I dropped a message to Paul B. when I got no answer on being added to the 
CCIE lab List as well.  His reply was that it takes about a month to get 
added to the list.  The moderator does this by groups instead of as they 
come

I guess we've all got to be a little patient.

HTH

Nigel


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>same here :)
>
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>
> > Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab 
>list?
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> >
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RE: QoS Confusion!

2000-12-02 Thread Cory Cipra

Basically, with frame-relay you will want to do a few things:

1.)  Insure a layer 3 QoS method

Since you are going to use both video and voice, you will want to use LLQ.
LLQ is basically CBWFQ + a priority queue.  With LLQ you make policy maps
and class maps.  The policy consists of being able to assign bandwith
queuing types for traffic classified by an access-list.  For example, say
you have data, voice, and video on a lower speed frame-relay PVC.  You can
create a policy map and within that policy map have different class maps.
The class maps define what traffic is "interesting."  This is done with
ACLs.  The policy map take each class map and defines potential queueing
types, bandwidth allotment, and potentially priority queue assignment.

2.)  Insure a layer 2 QoS method

With frame relay, you will be subject to serialization delay.  Since
frame-relay has a variable packet size, even if you are using a good layer 3
QoS mechanism, you will be prone to jitter and delay without link
fragmentation and interleaving (LFI).  LFI is the basis which you can
fragment packets to be then placed on the link to insure that one large
packet does not cause the others to suffer a delay.  With frame relay FRF.12
is the recommended LFI mechanism.

3.)  Traffic shape to the CIR

Lastly, frame-relay is a packet based service.  Since it is as such, it is
subject to network oversubscription and packet discard.  The carrier that
you get your frame relay service from will give you a CIR.  The CIR will be
your guaranteed traffic rate.  Anything above the CIR will be discard
eligible.  To insure that you do not exceed your CIR with voice, you must
use frame relay traffic shaping.

These are all IOS features that enable you to adequately classify,
prioritize, queue, shape, and send your voice, video, and data.

Here is a good link on CCO

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/network/dgqos.
htm

You can also do searches on LLQ, CBWFQ, FRF.12, frame-relay traffic shaping,
etc...

Good luck.

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John Neiberger
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:15 AM
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Subject: QoS Confusion!


[Warning:  I should have broken this up into several separate questions, but
it's late and I'm feeling lazy.]

We are currently implementing video over IP over frame relay.  Our video
conferencing units have the capability to set the IP precedence of their
traffic.  I initially thought that we'd have to configure custom queueing to
adequately address any congestion problems, but I've now decided to use
simple WFQ since it takes IP precedence into account.

This is working, but I wish I could find more documentation about the
different queueing mechanisms and the details of their operation and
configuration.  I've scoured CCO and can't find any understandable
explanations of custom queueing.

I'm also confused about when these queueing mechanims activate.  Take WFQ,
for instance.  I can tell by typing "show queue s0/0" that there are no
conversations in queue, and I understand this to mean that the link is so
far from being congested that we're not really queueing anything and doing
FIFO instead.  Now, from time to time, I see a few conversations in the
queue and notice that the video packets are marked correctly and do not get
dropped, at the expense of some other less important traffic.

At what point does queueing actually begin?  At full link congestion?  That
would be a little late, in my opinion.

To those of you with experience in such things:  do you feel that WFQ is
adequate in this situation?  It appears to be working great so far, but our
links are generally not very congested...yet.

Now, the kicker.  In the not-so-distant-future we are moving to voice over
IP, as well, except this is over our entire network instead of just 3 or 4
locations.  The phone system we use sets the IP precedence of the voice
packets before they enter the network.  Would WFQ be enough for all of our
traffic?  We've got a lot of different traffic types on our links, and
though they are not currently overtaxed (unlike me) I am worried about
congestion.

Should I consider custom or priority queueing when we implement VoIP?  And
what are the implications of trying to configure any type of queueuing on
frame relay interfaces that have several subinterfaces?

This could turn into one big hairy mess!

Okay, I'm done raving for the time being.  Any advice from the battle-worn
veterans would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

John





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2000-12-02 Thread D. J. Jones

Really terrific maps..dj

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> Best link I've ever seen for showing off this sort of thing in a
meaningful
> way to non-technical folks:
> http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/mapnet/Backbones/
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> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows a site that would have a graphical map
> > of the ISP's showing how they are connected?  Of course I don't expect
> > the map to have every connection, but I was hoping for a basic map
> > showing how the ISP's are interconnected.
> >
> > I was also wondering if someone knew a good site to get an explanation
> > of how all these Internet agencies work together?  EX: RADB, RIR, ARIN,
> > ICANN, IANA, RIPE, etc...  I have a basic understanding, but going to
> > the sites has been confusing me.  Can anyone point out a site that
> > really explains these things in a way a beginner can understand.  I have
> > been configuring alot of things on routers, but it wasn't untill I
> > started working with BGP that I realized how little I knew about how the
> > Internet is run!
> >
> > Help,
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RE: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

2000-12-02 Thread Louie Belt

I have been waiting for 3 months, send 1 request per month to no avail.
(Just an FYI)

When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; If
I am right, he will learn, If I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but
both of us will profit.

- John Galt


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Subject: RE: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list


You don't need to send multiple requests.  Paul usually adds people to the
lab list in a batch.  He stays pretty busy so I think he adds them once
every month or two.  In the meantime you can view all of the posts by
looking in the archives.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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same here :)

On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chuck Church wrote:

> Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab list?
> I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Church
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RE: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

2000-12-02 Thread Aaron K. Dixon

You don't need to send multiple requests.  Paul usually adds people to the
lab list in a batch.  He stays pretty busy so I think he adds them once
every month or two.  In the meantime you can view all of the posts by
looking in the archives.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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same here :)

On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chuck Church wrote:

> Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab list?
> I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Church
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Re: QoS Confusion!

2000-12-02 Thread Kevin Wigle

go and download a presentation about QoS and testing VoIP:

http://www.empowerednetworks.com/notes

Excellent discussion on the effects of jitter and bandwidth with diagrams
using WFQ

Kevin Wigle

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Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 1:14 AM
Subject: QoS Confusion!


> [Warning:  I should have broken this up into several separate questions,
but
> it's late and I'm feeling lazy.]
>
> We are currently implementing video over IP over frame relay.  Our video
> conferencing units have the capability to set the IP precedence of their
> traffic.  I initially thought that we'd have to configure custom queueing
to
> adequately address any congestion problems, but I've now decided to use
> simple WFQ since it takes IP precedence into account.
>




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Re: PIX 520 flash size

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

Thanks Jason.  Believe it or not, my 4.2.4 version did not mention the size 
of the flash!

I tried loading 5.2.3 on it last night and it wouldn't boot because I only 
have 2mb flash.  I just loaded 5.1.2 and it works fine with 2mb.

Have a good one.


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>Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 05:04:04 -0800
>
>PIX# sh ver
>
>Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Version 5.1(2)
>Compiled on Tue 16-May-00 16:09 by bhochuli
>Finesse Bios V3.3
>
>ISC-Modesto-PIX up 66 days 7 hours
>
>Hardware:   AL440LX, 32 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 233 MHz
>Flash AT29C040A @ 0x300, 2MB
>BIOS Flash AM28F256 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB
>
>
>BTW: I've never heard of any flash issues, as 5.2(3) still fits on
>everything out there I've seen (506, 515R/UR, 520).
>
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> > How does one find out the size of the PIX 520 flash without opening the
>box
> > please?  Boot up info only notes size of Dram.
> >
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Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

2000-12-02 Thread Brian



same here :)

On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chuck Church wrote:

> Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab list?
> I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Church
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RE: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router's serialport

2000-12-02 Thread Sam Adams

The actual command is

show ip cache A.B.C.D
  Ethernet  IEEE 802.3
  Loopback  Loopback interface
  Null  Null interface
  SerialSerial
  policypolicy cache entries
  verbose   display extra information
  

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Subject: Re: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router's
serial port


If you have ip route-cache enabled on an interface, the following will work:
show ip cache flow

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> Is there a command to view what kind of traffic eg FTP, TELNET passing
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> the router's serial port?
>
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RE: 2610 csu/dsu configuration

2000-12-02 Thread Taylor, Don
Title: RE: 2610 csu/dsu configuration





There's not too much to it. HDLC is the default encapsulation, so you won't have to change that. And if the second router you're connecting too has a Cisco internal CSU, they'll have the same default. Basically you just need to put clocking on one of the routers and that should do it. The command is "clock rate ?" (you get to choose the speed - might as well go with the fastest, 400).

The commands for configuring your CSU, though, are (in interface config mode) "service-module t1 ?" (get the list). The ones I use most often are:

"service-module t1 timeslots 1-24 speed 64"; this sets the CSU up for 24 channels at 64K per channel (T1 speed)
"service-module t1 linecode b8zs"; B8ZS line coding, as opposed to AMI (your provider can tell you which one to use)
"service-module t1 framing esf"; ESF or SF are your framing choices


Hope that helps. Lemme know if you need something else.


- Don


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Can someone point me to some good documentation on
how to configure the csu/dsu module in a 2610 for
a plain ordinary hdlc t1 connection?


Thanks,
kelly



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Re: Lab router management

2000-12-02 Thread Jim Barksdale

Instead of using boot net, why not have them do a 'config net' and choose the file 
from the
server they want.

If the config is so screwed up you can't do that. An alternative would be to connect a 
PC to
the console port, do a wri erase, then copy and paste the config they want from a text 
file.

I use the above method in a lab at work.  I save my config files, and can reload them 
for
whatever testing I want to do.

Tom Lisa wrote:

> We have the same problem.  Several different classes taking different semesters and
> leaving the routers in various configurations and register settings.  Our solution 
>has
> been to have default configurations on a TFTP server and each instructor is 
>responsible
> for setting up the lab for whatever basic config they need, often having the 
>students do
> it as part of the training experience.
>
> If any body has a better way, I would sure like to hear about.
>
> Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
> Community College of Southern Nevada
> Cisco Regional Networking Academy
>
> Ben Hockenhull wrote:
>
> > A student of mine just came into my office and posed this problem to me:
> >
> > Given a set of lab routers, where a student is allowed to do anything they
> > wish to the router, how can things be set up so that the router is
> > automatically restored to a known default configuration at the end of the
> > student's session?
> >
> > My initial response is that there's really no good way to do this, short
> > of special boot roms that would somehow intelligently tftpboot.
> >
> > boot net statements won't work, as the student can remove them.
> > config register frobbing won't work, as the student can change the config
> > register, and, indeed, might have to do so to practice password recovery.
> >
> > Given that the student can change config registers, write erase, set
> > enable passwords, reload, etc, how do labs manage their routers in these
> > situations?  He seemed to think that Cisco Academy has some kind of
> > software that helps them with this problem, but I don't see how it's
> > possible.
> >
> > Seems to me that all you can really do is have a staff of people to set
> > things right all the time.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > Ben
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Re: Strange occurances in syslog

2000-12-02 Thread Robert O'Brien

To everyone who replied,

Thanks. As it turns out I had upgraded to 12.0(10)GD on the router and all of
the other 2500's but didn't remember and as I don't have my e-mail at work
(separate network) I couldn't check when posting. I will try the extra lines in
the list as that definately makes sense.

Will let you know how it goes.

Rob O'Brien
CCNA
Canberra Australia

"Williamson, Paul" wrote:

> I think its due to the processing of the access-list, and that the router is
> not bothering to look into the packet to check port number, because the
> access-list is matching the ip address
>
> if you try and specify further ie
> access-list 150 permit tcp any any eq 1234 log
> access-list 150 permit tcp any any eq 2334 log
> access-list 150 permit ip any any eq log
>
> HTH
> -Paul
> -Original Message-
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> To: Murphy, Brian J SSI-ISET-31
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> Subject: Re: Strange occurances in syslog
>
> Brian,
>
> I actually had it bothways. I was trying to see what was happening when one
> of
> our techs was trying to talk over ip to control a pabx.
>
> Thanks for the prompt reply.
>
> Rob.
>
> "Murphy, Brian J SSI-ISET-31" wrote:
>
> > I have seen this before with inbound access lists..dont know why it is
> > port 0, i beleive outbound access lists give the port numbers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 12:12 PM
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> > Subject: Strange occurances in syslog
> >
> > Well I am stumped.
> >
> > The lines in the syslog from an "access-list 150 permit ip any any log"
> > are not returning the port numbers, just a zero. This makes it very
> > difficult to diagnose a traffic flow. This is being run on a 2500 series
> > router with I think it was 12.07(T) IOS.
> >
> > Any suggestions or has any one seen this before??
> >
> > Our other routers (all types of chassis including 2500's) seem to be
> > okay normally, but this is not definate.
> >
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Re: What book for CCNP LAN ATM Specialization???????

2000-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Cisco ATM Solutions (Cisco Certification)
>by Galina Pildush
>
>http://www.bestbookbuys.com/cgi-bin/bbb.cgi?ISBN=1578702135
>
>Hope this helps.  I haven't used it, but it was reccommended.  I have
>ordered.
>
>--Derek

Part II of Galina's ATM Implementation tutorial is now in the CCIE 
free-access zone at http://www.certificationzone.com. This tutorial 
complements the book.

I've worked with Galina for many years, and she was an incredibly 
valuable peer reviewer for my second book.

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Re: Lab router management

2000-12-02 Thread Erik Mintz

Set up a terminal server with console connections to all the routers.
You will need to power clear the routers to begin the process. the best
setup would be by using remote power switches.
Write a script that sends a break to the terminal servers. Then sends
commands for setting the required configs, setting aliases and then do a
tftpdnld ( in case they changed the IOS.)

-Erik
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:10 PM
Subject: Lab router management


| A student of mine just came into my office and posed this problem to me:
|
| Given a set of lab routers, where a student is allowed to do anything they
| wish to the router, how can things be set up so that the router is
| automatically restored to a known default configuration at the end of the
| student's session?
|
| My initial response is that there's really no good way to do this, short
| of special boot roms that would somehow intelligently tftpboot.
|
| boot net statements won't work, as the student can remove them.
| config register frobbing won't work, as the student can change the config
| register, and, indeed, might have to do so to practice password recovery.
|
| Given that the student can change config registers, write erase, set
| enable passwords, reload, etc, how do labs manage their routers in these
| situations?  He seemed to think that Cisco Academy has some kind of
| software that helps them with this problem, but I don't see how it's
| possible.
|
| Seems to me that all you can really do is have a staff of people to set
| things right all the time.
|
| Anyone have any ideas?
|
| Ben
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CiscoPress.com

2000-12-02 Thread Greg Reaume

Website is back up but I'm just getting Oracle ODBC driver errors on every
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because there is no [EMAIL PROTECTED]  No response yet.

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Re: Death of someone whom we owe

2000-12-02 Thread Aaron Smith

Here is the link
http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/ping.html

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> That is a tragedy. To die in that manner.
>
> At least he left a legacy.
>
> Does anyone have the link where he tells the story of  PING? I often like
to
> tell people that it is not "Packet INternet Groper.
>
> RIP
>
> Tim
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> > I read in an article that Michael Muuss has died in a car accident.
> >
> > He is the person who gave us a tool called "PING" to make our lives
easier
> > when troubleshooting our networks.
> >
> > May his soul rest in peace.
> >
> > http://ftp.arl.mil/~mike/bio.html
> > http://www.msnbc.com/local/wbal/33095.asp?cp1=1
> >
> > A. Strobel
> >
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
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RE: PIX 520 ethernet cards

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

This is exactly what I expected.

I knew one of you guys would have tried it before!

Thanks for the reply.


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>To: 'Frank Wells' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"  
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>Subject: RE: PIX 520 ethernet cards
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:14:38 -0500
>
>You cannot use any ordinary NIC in a PIX.  The NICs in a PIX have been
>modified to disable promiscuous mode.  In addition, I believe that they 
>also
>have a proprietary firmware chip on these cards, which you just can't
>reproduce any other way.
>
>How do I know this, you ask?  I tried the same thing!  A Cisco SE
>straightend me out, however... ;-}
>
>Rik Guyler
>
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>Hey Folks,
>Can I put a non-Cisco ethernet card (Intel/3com) in my PIX 520 as a third
>interface, and if so, how does one load the driver for it?  I assume the
>driver for the cards that come with it are built in to the IOS.
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Re: Version 1 or version 2

2000-12-02 Thread Rishard Chapoteau

I did CCNA 1.0 and the rest I did were 2.0 for CCNP.  If I look at the
tracking page on cisco's site it tells me that I have CCNP 1.0 and 2.0 . . .
I guess it doesn't really matter.  The date I have to re-up by is still the
same no matter what.

Rishard



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> I was curious, my CCNA cert is only v 1.0, to become certified as a CCNP
> v2.0 do I have to have CCNA v2.0?
> Will I have to redo my CCNA?
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Re: Cisco 3920 in CCIE Lab?

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

Hey Nnanna,
Have you drawn up any labs for learning this stuff?  Might be good for a 
little more business if you do.  Charge an extra $20.00 and throw in a 
decent lab or two...just a thought!


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>Subject: Re: Cisco 3920 in CCIE Lab?
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:36:00 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>All you need is a few hours of practise, and I daresay
>you can find that at www.nantech.com :)
>
>Nnanna
>
>
>
>--- Tim Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is a 3920 still used in the CCIE Lab? If so, is it
> > used as a major configuration problem? I haven't
> > used the 3920 and have been searching for one for my
> > home lab but all that I find are too expensive. Am I
> > missing much?
> >
> > Tim
> >
>
>
>=
>www.nantech.com
>Online lab for CCIE preparation
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RE: O/T ballots-per-second musings

2000-12-02 Thread Erick B.

It depends on if Chad is driving the truck. :)

> Has anyone figured out the ballots-per-second (bps)
> transmission rate for the ballots that travelled in
> a Ryder truck from Palm Beach County to Tallahassee?


Bits travel around alot at high speed and there have
been sightings of swinging bits, hanging bits,
pregnant bits and dimpled bits on occasion.


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Re: CCNP Switching

2000-12-02 Thread Kenneth Lorenzo

The sample Bosons are free but I would highly recommend paying for the full
version. It's a great test. It's difficult and cover more stuff than the
real exam but if you score pretty well on the Boson, you're almost
guaranteed to pass the exam in my opinion.

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Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-02 Thread Frank Wells

It should have. Maybe he had the cable plugged into the wrong port...


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>Subject: Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:31:07 EST
>
>Shouldn't flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch have corrected the problem of using
>the straight through cable?
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CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

2000-12-02 Thread Chuck Church

Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab list?
I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.

Thanks,
Chuck Church

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anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

2000-12-02 Thread cslx

anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
I want to know which field cisco want focus on in the next decade.
IP over ATM switch at the backbone
or IP over sonet at the backbone
that means for the man or campus network, which one is cisco's prefer choice
or has the priority?
any1 can foresee the furture of ATM in china, and will it be replaced by
using total ip switching over backbone sonet transwmission?
I am seriously asking this question.


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VoFR on 1750?

2000-12-02 Thread Kenneth Lorenzo

Can someone confirm whether I can do VoFR on a 1750? I was looking at Cisco
site and they said that only 2600 and above can perform VoFR while the 1750
can only do VoIP. Now while I was looking at IOS 12.0(3) and later, it said
there at VoFR is supported on the 1750. I don't know which one is telling me
the truth or could it be that one of the document was old.

Also, I suppose a VIC can be used for both VoIP or VoFR, right? since most
of the functions are done in the IOS?

Thanks!

Kenneth Lorenzo


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what are the means of the following commands?thanx

2000-12-02 Thread cslx

clns routing
lane client flush
cns event-service server
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime




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O/T: UserFriendly.org comic strip

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Hopefully all of you already know about UserFriendly, but just in case I
figure I should tell everyone.  No tech should be without their daily dose
of UF (well, I'm usually too busy during the week, so I read 'em on the
weekends):

http://www.userfriendly.org/static/


Note: Sundays are usually the funniest and don't require any previous comic
strip reading or knowledge:
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/sundays.html

One of the more appropriate ones for the list entitled "Techie Career Track
Flowchart":
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20001001

One of my favorites:
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990328

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Fwd: Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-02 Thread Roman McDonald

That MDI/MDI-X switch is usually just for one port (port 1 for example) as
an uplink.  I know Synoptics hubs are like this.  So... flipping the switch
would only work if you are plugged into the proper port.  If he WAS in the
proper port, it doesn't make sense to me either.

Roman

>From: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Bradley J. Wilson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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>Subject: Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:51:06 -0500
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>
>I'm wondering why the MDI/MDI-X switch did not help.
>
>At any time using this switch did you see a link light on the eqpt? no
>link - flip the switch, also no light? - check the cable. (however a x-over
>cable and engaged MDI-X would be straight through  :-
>
>I have used all manner of eqpt and the MDI/MDI-X worked as expected, just
>like uplink ports, etc.
>
>Kevin Wigle
>
>- Original Message -
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><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:16 AM
>Subject: RE: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
>
>
> > The hub and switch are both at the same OSI layer 2. The rule is still
> > correct.
> >
> > JM
> >
> > Joseph Mayo
> > Network Engineer
> > Phone: (757) 393-9526  Fax: (757) 393-9847
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> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:31 AM
> > To: cisco
> > Subject: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
> >
> >
> > Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday morning,
> > and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:
> >
> > My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their existing
> > network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
> > stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
> > collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
> > switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users" directly
> > onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We
>attached
> > the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.
> >
> > The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem
>accessing
> > the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.
>We
> > tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
> > either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch, and
> > nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work was using a *crossover*
> > cable between the hub and the switch.
> >
> > Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this newsgroup, btw) is that when
>you're
> > connecting devices at different OSI layers, you use a straight-through -
> > e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router, hub to switch - that's all
> > straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're connecting devices at
>the
> > same OSI layer - router to router, switch to switch, hub to hub, PC to PC.
> > In the situation yesterday, a straight-through seemed logical, as we were
> > trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong here?  Why did the
> > crossover work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BJ
> >
> > P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm trying to get them to change
> > that. ;-)
> >
> >
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Re: Design problem involving multiple sites, ISPs, etc.

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Heh, well, my boss of course already had a solution for me today.
Basically, we need to move the T1 between sites outside the firewall, and
establish a VPN between them for continued access.  This is so obvious that
I can't see why it didn't hit me before.  It of course solves the problem of
the existing VPNs to other offices, as each PIX will just have VPNs to each
office and the two sites' internal networks won't be linked.

Tonight I got to move all IP/DNS for internal customers at the second site
to UUNET IPs.  Basically went through the PIX 520 and isolated all the
configuration that needed to be added to the 515 and did so.  Then I edited
all the zone files for DNS.  Lastly, I created a policy route-map as I
couldn't get in touch with Corporate to set up the 515 to VPN in (and our
main Exchange box that talks to Corp. is at site 2), so the route-map just
redirects traffic from the Exchange box to the Corp network up through the
520.  With all that set, I swapped the default routes and restarted the name
server, and everything just worked.  By Monday, no one will no the
difference as DNS will have caught up globally.

Next step is to get all the users at site 1 upgraded to the latest NetWare
client and configured to use IP as a preference as that's all that will be
going in the IPSEC tunnel, and get the VPNs configured to the other offices
at site 2's 515.  Once that's done, no reason we can't yank the T1 between
sites, move it outside the firewall, and then proceed with getting eBGP up
between our ISPs and iBGP between sites.

Internal 2621 that is the default gateway at site 2:
interface Ethernet0/0
!snipped unnecessary stuff
 ip policy route-map ModestoPIX

access-list 110 permit ip host 10.12.3.8 any
access-list 110 deny   ip any any
route-map ModestoPIX permit 10
 match ip address 110
 set ip next-hop 192.168.10.2

10.12.3.8 = Exchange box
192.168.10.2 = Site 1 Looback.

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>   Netcom  Sprint
> |  \   |
> |   \  |
> |3640 -- T1s to various external IP customers
> |  |
>  VPN|   External Hub -- Ethernet to various external IP servers
>  to  \ |
>  Corp \--PIX 520
>|   |- T1/ISDN backups to various internal IP customers
>Internal Hubs --|
>|   |- Ethernet to various internal IP
>  2500 servers, PC, etc.
>  |  |
>   T1 |  | ISDN Backup
>  |  |
>  2621 Ethernet to various
>|   |- internal IP servers, PC, etc.
>Internal Hubs --|
>|   |- T1/ISDN backups to various internal IP customers
>PIX 515R
>|
>  2621  -- T1s to various external IP customers
>|
>|
>  UUNET
>
> (Set your font to Courier to have the above make sense)
>
> Ok, the above is the current situation.  Netcom was the first ISP and all
> IPs are from them.  I'll be hammering on their phone lines tomorrow to
find
> out if I can get them to BGP with us (I've sent a ton of emails, and the
> whole Netcom -> Mindspring -> Earthlink has made their business services
> unit take a dive).  If the will, that saves us renumbering all of our
> existing stuff, if not, we'll be moving to our new Sprint & UUNET IPs.
> Anyone know if Mindspring/Earthlink will exchange BGP with customers?  The
> main reason why we've kept them is that they're in the same building, so
no
> telco T1, just a physical CAT5 running between CSU'/DSUs on different
> floors.
>
> Ok, the problem is that we want to get multihomed with Sprint & UUNET at
the
> least and hopefully Netcom as well.  However, the ISPs are connected at
two
> different sites, which are connected via an internal network behind PIXs.
> We know we're going to have to do some design changes, so basically I'm
> looking for any input/ideas from folks that have dealt with this sort of
> thing.
>
> My thoughts were these: Take full BGP routes from Sprint to the 3640
(128mb
> DRAM).  Take UUNET's own BGP routes to the 2621.  Have the 3640 learn
> UUNET's BPG routes via iBGP learned from the 2621.  Since the 2621 can't
> hold the full routing table, I'm not sure the best thing to do there, but
my
> thought is to just have it default all traffic out UUNET.  The 3640 would
be
> able to make intelligent decisions between Sprint & UUNET (and hopefully
> Netcom).  We'll probably be replacing the 2621 with a 3600 so we can take
> full routes from UUNET.  BGP is totally new to me, but my boss has worked
> with it a little before.
>
> Of course the real end goal is to have things totally redundant.  If the
> link to UUNET or Sprint should fail, traffic should go out the other ISP.
> I'm not sure how to do this at th

Re: 802.1q vlans between cisco and 3com

2000-12-02 Thread Vincent


If you need to connected 2 switch together, you need to set up trunk using
802.1q.

You need to check the VLAN compatibility between each other.

Like VLan No.
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>  Has anyone has any experience of setting up 802.1q vlans between a
> cisco cat 5509 and a 3com ss2 3300.
>
> any help appreciated
>
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Re: PIX 520 flash size

2000-12-02 Thread Ben Hockenhull

At 5:04 AM -0800 12/2/00, Jason Roysdon wrote:
>PIX# sh ver
>
>Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Version 5.1(2)
>Compiled on Tue 16-May-00 16:09 by bhochuli
>Finesse Bios V3.3
>
>ISC-Modesto-PIX up 66 days 7 hours
>
>Hardware:   AL440LX, 32 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 233 MHz
>Flash AT29C040A @ 0x300, 2MB
>BIOS Flash AM28F256 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB
>
>
>BTW: I've never heard of any flash issues, as 5.2(3) still fits on
>everything out there I've seen (506, 515R/UR, 520).

Well, 5.2.3 is 2.1 meg in size, and cisco insists that you upgrade to the
16 meg flash card in order to use it.

5.1.x will still fit in 2 meg, though.

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Re: Pricing?

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Just depends on what the market will bear.  Before I was certed, I billed
$95/hr as a "Network Technician", then $120/hr when I got my MCSE as a
"Network Engineer," and now $150/hr because I can get away with it.
Depending on an install, we may charge flat rates such as $500/router,
$1k/PIX.  It all just depends on the customer.  For emergency pages I bill
$300/hr and have never had a complaint about it (fun thing is that I get to
pocket half of the emegency money, well, then Uncle Sam gets his cut, but
still).

I'd be curious to hear what other outfits are charging out there as well.

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802.1q vlans between cisco and 3com

2000-12-02 Thread Dave . Craddock

Hi
 Has anyone has any experience of setting up 802.1q vlans between a
cisco cat 5509 and a 3com ss2 3300.

any help appreciated

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Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-02 Thread Gareth Hinton

DTE/DCE probably doesn't fit into ethernet too well, but it does make an
easy way of remembering what needs crosses.
This may be a pie in the sky way of remembering the connections but it works
for me.

PC clearly fits  DTE category
Router in most applications used with a DTE cable (admittedly on the serial
but helps to remember it)
Switch/Hub - DCE  (

DCE-DTE needs straight

DTE-DTE needs cross
DCE-DCE needs cross

Reading through this I'm wondering whether to even send it, but it's always
been the way I've remembered it.

If it helps, good. If it doesn't forget it.

Horses for courses.

Regards,

Gaz

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> I wasn't aware that the terms DCE and DTE applied in ethernet; I thought
> they were serial communication terms.  How would you apply those terms to
> this situation?
>
> >  Hello,
> >
> >  Sometimes these things happen because not all equipment have the same
> specs.
> >  My suggestion would be to consider DTE to DTE needs at least one roll
in
> the
> >  connection, and DTE to DCE needs a straight-through or two rolls in the
> >  connection. It all hangs on the constuction of the interface connection
> and
> >  which pins it is using for transmit, receive etc.
> >  Bottom line is try to determine which interfaces(DTE or DCE) are
involved
> >  and then it is easier to choose the correct cable.
> >  Hope this helps a little.
> >
> >  Winston.
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:31 PM
> >  To: cisco
> >  Subject: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
> >
> >
> >  Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday
morning,
> >  and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:
> >
> >  My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their
existing
> >  network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
> >  stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
> >  collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
> >  switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users"
directly
> >  onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We
> attached
> >  the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.
> >
> >  The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem
> accessing
> >  the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.
> We
> >  tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
> >  either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch,
and
> >  nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work was using a *crossover*
> >  cable between the hub and the switch.
> >
> >  Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this newsgroup, btw) is that when
> you're
> >  connecting devices at different OSI layers, you use a
straight-through -
> >  e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router, hub to switch - that's
> all
> >  straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're connecting devices
at
> the
> >  same OSI layer - router to router, switch to switch, hub to hub, PC to
> PC.
> >  In the situation yesterday, a straight-through seemed logical, as we
were
> >  trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong here?  Why did the
> >  crossover work?
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >  BJ
> >
> >  P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm trying to get them to
change
> >  that. ;-)
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> >
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Re: mrtg readings

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

What are you measuring?  MRTG reports whatever numbers you give it (or
whatever it's configured for and queries respond with).

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Re: Lab router management

2000-12-02 Thread Ben Hockenhull

At 6:12 PM -0500 12/1/00, Erik Mintz wrote:
>Set up a terminal server with console connections to all the routers.
>You will need to power clear the routers to begin the process. the best
>setup would be by using remote power switches.
>Write a script that sends a break to the terminal servers. Then sends
>commands for setting the required configs, setting aliases and then do a
>tftpdnld ( in case they changed the IOS.)

Yep, a console server was definitely part of the equation.  I hadn't
thought of an expect script to put the router back to default state,
though.  Great idea!

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Re: the pixwall is often dead,why?

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

What OS version?  If you've got a Smartnet contract, I'd say bump it to
5.2(3).  It's fixed a ton of issues for us.

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> I made a nt radius as the Authen server,the pixwall died twice or thrice
> everyday,but if I don't add Authen function,it will be ok,why?
> the following is the configuration:
> interface ethernet outside auto
> interface ethernet inside auto
> ip address inside 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
> ip address outside 61.154.33.1 255.255.255.248
> arp timeout 14400
> global 1 61.154.33.2-61.154.33.2
> nat 1 10.1.1.0 255.255.255.0
> timeout xlate 0:50:00 conn 10:30:00 udp 0:02:00
> timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:20:00
> radius-server host 10.1.1.2 Itellyou
> aaa authentication http outbound 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 radius
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> the infrastructure is :
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Re: picture of router?

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

http://r2cisco.artoo.net/images/routers4.jpg

Images taken from CiscoView.

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Re: Flash, RAM and ROM ??(basic question)

2000-12-02 Thread michael

Please go to the Associate list,this isn't the right Mail list for
you.



On 2 Dec 2000 07:54:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Dellong)
wrote:

>quick question here:
>
>please let me know the differences between these 3
>types and if there are any other do let me know. what
>are the reasons for choosing one of these memory in a
>cisco router/switch/equipment ?
>
>cisco IOS can be executed in one of the following
>areas
>
>Flash
>ROM
>RAM
>
>thanks
>brian
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Re: PIX 520 flash size

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

PIX# sh ver

Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Version 5.1(2)
Compiled on Tue 16-May-00 16:09 by bhochuli
Finesse Bios V3.3

ISC-Modesto-PIX up 66 days 7 hours

Hardware:   AL440LX, 32 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 233 MHz
Flash AT29C040A @ 0x300, 2MB
BIOS Flash AM28F256 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB


BTW: I've never heard of any flash issues, as 5.2(3) still fits on
everything out there I've seen (506, 515R/UR, 520).

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Re: Internet ?

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Best link I've ever seen for showing off this sort of thing in a meaningful
way to non-technical folks:
http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/mapnet/Backbones/

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> I was wondering if anyone knows a site that would have a graphical map
> of the ISP's showing how they are connected?  Of course I don't expect
> the map to have every connection, but I was hoping for a basic map
> showing how the ISP's are interconnected.
>
> I was also wondering if someone knew a good site to get an explanation
> of how all these Internet agencies work together?  EX: RADB, RIR, ARIN,
> ICANN, IANA, RIPE, etc...  I have a basic understanding, but going to
> the sites has been confusing me.  Can anyone point out a site that
> really explains these things in a way a beginner can understand.  I have
> been configuring alot of things on routers, but it wasn't untill I
> started working with BGP that I realized how little I knew about how the
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Re: Is there a command to view what kind of traffic in router's seria l port

2000-12-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

If you have ip route-cache enabled on an interface, the following will work:
show ip cache flow

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Re: Passed switching this afternoon

2000-12-02 Thread Abdul Warsimohamed

Congratulations. For the routing exam, all you need is
the Cisco Press BSCN (Routing) book and if possible
some additional materials to reinforce your
understanding from the CCO especially BGP, OSPF and
EIGRP.  Don't forget redistribution and other small
stuffs such as IP addressing etc.  Make sure that you
understanding the materials very well and you should
have no problem. 

If you need further understanding on BGP, buy Halabi's
Internet Routing Architectures (Cisco Press book)


Good luck. 

Abdul


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> I passed switching this afternoon. Thanks for all
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> 
> Can someone give the books, test papers etc required
> for Routing paper. I have Cisco press routing Book.
> 
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Flash, RAM and ROM ??(basic question)

2000-12-02 Thread Brian Dellong

quick question here:

please let me know the differences between these 3
types and if there are any other do let me know. what
are the reasons for choosing one of these memory in a
cisco router/switch/equipment ?

cisco IOS can be executed in one of the following
areas

Flash
ROM
RAM

thanks
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Re: website to pickup usb to db9 cable online

2000-12-02 Thread Erick B.


Just a follow up. I'm thinking about picking up the
BAFO one for myself (first one in list below). They
make a simple USB-DB9 adapter that you can use any USB
cable with and plug in to adapter. 

The thing is the PC Webshopper website which seems to
be the only place that sells them online has a older
picture then the one on bafo.com. The newer make is
slimmer which I prefer. I've contacted them to see if
they have the new slimmer model or the original which
was bigger.  

I'll let you know if bafo.com will sell direct to me,
if so perhaps we can get a group order for folks
interested.

--- "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to get a USB to DB9 cable.
> 
> http://www.pcwebshopper.com/bafusbtoserd.html
> $25
> 
>
http://store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/usbtorsdb9se.html
> $39 
> 
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> > If a laptop only has USB ports, what is the best
> way
> > to connect to the 
> > console port?  Is there any type of adapter for
> > that, or do I need to get a 
> > DB9 to USB cable?
> > 
> > Thanks,
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Re: CCNP Switching 2.0

2000-12-02 Thread Inamul

How about command based questions in this exam ??
D u have to know details like default timers values in STP etc ?
Boson asks u lot of fill in the blanck question which u have to remember
full command, it would be bit easy if they ask u multiple choice.

Thanks in advance.

Inamul


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> one from Jason asks a lot of multicast questions.
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>
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Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-02 Thread Aditya Kedia.

The HUB is on the Physical layer and the switch on layer 2.

Aditya Kedia
- Original Message -
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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Hub-to-Switch connection problem


> The hub and switch are both at the same OSI layer 2. The rule is still
> correct.
>
> JM
>
> Joseph Mayo
> Network Engineer
> Phone: (757) 393-9526  Fax: (757) 393-9847
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:31 AM
> To: cisco
> Subject: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
>
>
> Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday morning,
> and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:
>
> My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their existing
> network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
> stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
> collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
> switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users" directly
> onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We
attached
> the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.
>
> The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem
accessing
> the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.
We
> tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
> either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch, and
> nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work was using a *crossover*
> cable between the hub and the switch.
>
> Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this newsgroup, btw) is that when
you're
> connecting devices at different OSI layers, you use a straight-through -
> e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router, hub to switch - that's all
> straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're connecting devices at
the
> same OSI layer - router to router, switch to switch, hub to hub, PC to PC.
> In the situation yesterday, a straight-through seemed logical, as we were
> trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong here?  Why did the
> crossover work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> BJ
>
> P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm trying to get them to change
> that. ;-)
>
>
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RE: Fast Ethernet MTU Size

2000-12-02 Thread Shaw, Winston Mr.

Try it. Ethernet is based on physical and data layer characteristics with a
strong dose of CSMA/CD. If all sides agree what the bit times will be above
64 then it might work. The mtu command could probably be placed on all
interfaces involved.
On another note, I remember having two identical servers-one fast ethernet,
the other with a 100Mbs ATM card hooked directly to an ATM switch and the
server with the ATM card always seemed "faster" than the one with the FE
card. This was a production environment so I never really got a chance to do
any real testing. I have always felt that the predictabilty of the ATM cell
sizes would account for the seemingly faster throughput. We have moved away
from ATM on the LAN to Gig except for some WAN connections so I might never
know.

Let us know if it worked.
Winston.


-Original Message-
From: Darren Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 4:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fast Ethernet MTU Size


Hi All,

Is it at all possible to raise the MTU size on Fast Ethernet?

I'll give you all a scenario

ATM on one side with an MTU of 4470, fast ethernet connecting the two
routers, Gigabit Ethernet the other side with an MTU of 4470.

How can I raise the MTU of a Full Duplex Fast Ethernet Connection above
1500?

I assume it's not possible when going through switched as they will show
every packet as a giant but in a router to router cross-over connection
I was hoping there was some way to keep the MTU static across the path
rather than force the routers to fragment and re-assemble (of course the
destination re-assembles).

Darren Ward
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Re: website to pickup usb to db9 cable online

2000-12-02 Thread Erick B.

You need to get a USB to DB9 cable.

http://www.pcwebshopper.com/bafusbtoserd.html
$25

http://store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/usbtorsdb9se.html
$39 

--- ERIC BRATAGER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If a laptop only has USB ports, what is the best way
> to connect to the 
> console port?  Is there any type of adapter for
> that, or do I need to get a 
> DB9 to USB cable?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric Bratager


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List is s...l...o....w...

2000-12-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Making some of these conversations strained. I sure hope it comes up to a
reasonable speed soon.

Paul, if we take up a collection, would that help fix whatever ails? How
much do you need?

Chuck
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it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will
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Re: Fast Ethernet MTU Size

2000-12-02 Thread Darren Ward

I have noticed that on the 12008 I can set the MTU higher but not the 7206VXR?

Since I'm talking about going straight from a 7206VXR to a 12008GSR I assume then all I
should need to do is get a 2FE card for the 7200.

The switch issue doesn't come into this one as mentioned but is a point well taken of
course.

I think I'll try and find the card documentation on CCO and thanks for the reference.

Darren

Hugo _ wrote:

> You need the 2FE port to change the MTU size, but also in the Catalyst you
> need to have the version wich support the feature "jumbo packet" wich permit
> to pass packet greater than 1500.
>
> Hugo
>
> >From: Darren Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Darren Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Fast Ethernet MTU Size
> >Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 14:02:06 +1100
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Is it at all possible to raise the MTU size on Fast Ethernet?
> >
> >I'll give you all a scenario
> >
> >ATM on one side with an MTU of 4470, fast ethernet connecting the two
> >routers, Gigabit Ethernet the other side with an MTU of 4470.
> >
> >How can I raise the MTU of a Full Duplex Fast Ethernet Connection above
> >1500?
> >
> >I assume it's not possible when going through switched as they will show
> >every packet as a giant but in a router to router cross-over connection
> >I was hoping there was some way to keep the MTU static across the path
> >rather than force the routers to fragment and re-assemble (of course the
> >destination re-assembles).
> >
> >Darren Ward
> >CCNP, CCDP, CCIE Wannabee
> >
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Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-02 Thread Michael Le

Yikes!  Before you go CAPS LOCKING people with wrong
advice, you might want to check your answer.
Hubs do not work at L2. Crossover is definitely the
right cable to use, but not for your reason.
Rule should go roughly like this:
1. Hub/Switch to anything but another Hub/Switch is
straight-through.
2. Everything else is crossover.

--- Elias Aggelidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are making a BIG MISTAKE !
> 
> Switches are working on L2 as and HUBs.
> 
> So when you are connecting a Hub to a switch you
> must
> use a crossover cable !
> 
> Regards
> Elias Aggelidis
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bradley J. Wilson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:30 PM
> Subject: Hub-to-Switch connection problem
> 
> 
> > Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying
> situation yesterday morning,
> > and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an
> experience like this:
> >
> > My client was installing an older BayStack 301
> switch into their existing
> > network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node
> router, as well as four
> > stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was
> experiencing excessive
> > collisions, hence the installation of the switch. 
> So we installed the
> > switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the
> "power users" directly
> > onto the switch, and left the other users attached
> to the hub.  We attached
> > the hub to the switch via a straight-through
> cable.
> >
> > The users who were directly connected to the
> switch had no problem accessing
> > the network and Internet.  The users on the hub
> were dead in the water.  We
> > tried swapping out the cable between the hub and
> switch, tried plugging
> > either end into different ports, tried flipping
> the MDI/MDI-X switch, and
> > nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work
> was using a *crossover*
> > cable between the hub and the switch.
> >
> > Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this
> newsgroup, btw) is that when you're
> > connecting devices at different OSI layers, you
> use a straight-through -
> > e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router,
> hub to switch - that's all
> > straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're
> connecting devices at the
> > same OSI layer - router to router, switch to
> switch, hub to hub, PC to PC.
> > In the situation yesterday, a straight-through
> seemed logical, as we were
> > trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong
> here?  Why did the
> > crossover work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BJ
> >
> > P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm
> trying to get them to change
> > that. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
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