Another loss - though not tragic --> Was Death of someone whom we owe

[John L. Watson]

As if that's not enough of a loss: Ken Thompson is "retiring" from the IT
world to pursue a full-time career as a flight instructor.

John L. Watson, MCSE, CCNA, ACP
Professional Services Consultant
IBM Global Services

My PID is Indigo Montoya.  You kill -9 my parent process, prepare to vi.


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Here is the link
http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/ping.html

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> That is a tragedy. To die in that manner.
>
> At least he left a legacy.
>
> Does anyone have the link where he tells the story of  PING? I often like
to
> tell people that it is not "Packet INternet Groper.
>
> RIP
>
> Tim
> ""A.Strobel"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > I read in an article that Michael Muuss has died in a car accident.
> >
> > He is the person who gave us a tool called "PING" to make our lives
easier
> > when troubleshooting our networks.
> >
> > May his soul rest in peace.
> >
> > http://ftp.arl.mil/~mike/bio.html
> > http://www.msnbc.com/local/wbal/33095.asp?cp1=1
> >
> > A. Strobel
> >
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
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Re: bgp question and subnetting

[Nigel Taylor]

Whitaker,
 The easier way would be to use the null route or as it
better referred to as the blackhole route.  Of course if you're routing
traffic for the subnets /25 then your igp would have picked up the those
subnets. The use of any of the various commands "redistribute connected
subnets" redistribute static subnets"  if the interface is locally defined
or learned through the IGP would in effect provide a route to that traffic
once your provider got the external (BGP) traffic to you AS(routing domain).

Personally I would use the basic configuration:
!
router ospf(igp) 
redistribute static subnets
redistribute connected subnets
network 
!
router bgp 
redistribute ospf  
neighbor  remote-as 
neighbor  distribute-list 1 out
!
access-list 1 deny  1.1.1.0 0.0.0.128
access-list 1 deny 1.1.1.128 0.0.0.128
access-list 1 permit any
!
ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 null0


This would accomplish everything you needed to do... unless of course you
were
given specific requirements to make use of route-map statements.  Good  BGP
practices
suggest that the provider would have a filter in place to limit what routes
he learns from you
anyway.

HTH

Nigel...


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> Scenario:
> Let's say you have a class C subnet that you break off into two smaller
> networks:
>
> 1.1.1.0/24 = 1.1.1.0/25 + 1.1.1.128/25
>
> Problem:
> You are announcing this through BGP, but your provider only allows you to
> advertise full class C addresses.  The problem lies in that you have to
> announce this network as 1.1.1.0/24 but still get traffic to 1.1.1.0/25 &
> 1.1.1.128/25.
>
> Solution:
> So, there are two ways to do this:
>
> 1) Use an aggregate-address with a suppress map to filter this.
>
> router bgp 
> network 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.128
> network 1.1.1.128 mask 255.255.255.128
> aggregate-address 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 suppress-map mysupressmap
> !
> route-map mysuppressmap permit 10
> match ip address 20
> !
> access-list 20 permit 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.128
> access-list 20 permit 1.1.1.128 0.0.0.128
> !
> int vlan 1
> ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.128
> no shut
> !
> int vlan 2
> ip add 1.1.1.129 255.255.255.128
> no shut
>
>
> 2) Use null routes
>
> router bgp 
> network 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> !
> ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 null 0
> !
> int vlan 1
> ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.128
> no shut
> !
> int vlan 2
> ip add 1.1.1.129 255.255.255.128
> no shut
>
>
> Question:
> Which way do you all feel is better?
>
> I read in Boson's test that the preferred way is to use aggregate
addresses,
> but this seems to be a much more complex way to do what a simple null
route
> can accomplish?  Thought / comments?
>
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Re: Flash, RAM and ROM ??(basic question)

[Inamul]

chk examcram.com . they have good article about basics.

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> quick question here:
>
> please let me know the differences between these 3
> types and if there are any other do let me know. what
> are the reasons for choosing one of these memory in a
> cisco router/switch/equipment ?
>
> cisco IOS can be executed in one of the following
> areas
>
> Flash
> ROM
> RAM
>
> thanks
> brian
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Re: TGIF follies....

[Shahir Boshra]

For those who don't already know it, Radia Perlman in addition to writing
this poem, she also created the Spanning Tree Algorithm. :-)

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was
> pretty cool.  I know some of you folks that have been around this field
for
> awhile have probably seen this, but for those who haven't seen this enjoy.
>
>Spanning Tree Fundamentals
>
>  Algorhyme
>   I think that I shall never see
>  A graph more lovely than a tree.
>A tree whose crucial property
> Is loop-free connectivity.
>  A tree that must be sure to span
>   So packets can reach every LAN.
>  First, the root must be selected.
>By ID, it is elected.
>   Least cost paths from root are traced.
>In the tree, these paths are placed.
>  A mesh is made by folks like me,
> Then bridges find a spanning tree.
>   -Radia Perlman
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boot#

[tayta]

Dear all
in a frantic attempt to recover control of a cisco 800 router I have reached
the point of boot#
could anybody advise me of where to go from here. The saved config. is of no
interest to me as I want to configure it for my own purposes now.
any help appreciated

thanks

tayta


boot# help
bootExecute image or CLI command script.
delete  Deletes file-name from flash (8th delete is permanent).
disable Disable privileged commands.
echoDisplay arguments (to test CLI behavior).
enable  Enable privileged or debug commands.
erase   Erase deleted and invalid files from flash.
helpDisplay help for command (* for all).
listList files currently in ram and saved in flash.
loadLoad saved boot environment from flash.
passwd  Set or change the ROM password.
reset   Reset console port to current parameters.
set Set boot environment values.
saveSave boot environment or loaded file to flash.
showShow current or saved boot environment.
upload  Load image or configuration data into RAM.
undeleteUndelete file-name (maximum of 8 deletes & undeletes).
boot# list
Status Size DevName
--   48K  flashTinyROM-1.0(2)
---r-x 2967K  flashc800-sy6-mw.120-4.T1.bin
   5120K  free 8192K total


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VPN issues: WAS: pretty cool paper re "myth of Internet growth numbers"

[Chuck Larrieu]

Saw this one on the NANOG list, beginning yesterday.  Somewhere between
indirectly and critical, the issue effects capacity planning, particularly
for those working on VPN solutions for employers or customers. Thought some
of you might enjoy reading it. Also, you may want to follow the thread on
the NANOG list. Some are concerned with capacity planning. Others are
concerned with slowing growth rates. As we all seem to be interested in
VPN's, part of good design practice is being aware of the issues surrounding
the replacing of private backbones with shared backbones. No such thing as a
free lunch.

Chuck

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[meta-operational content warning.  followup thread probably belongs on some
other list]
andrew odlyzko's latest
http://www.cisp.org/imp/november_2000/odlyzko/11_00odlyzko.htm
fwiw
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Network Design Issues: WAS: Facts, Statistics and Urban Legends from the backhoe convention

[Chuck Larrieu]

Saw this one on NANOG this morning. For those in the Design track, or who
are in the process of designing "reliable" and "redundant" networks for
employers or clients, I thought you might enjoy reading this one.

Chuck

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A brief review of tidbits from the backhoe convention, aka underground
damage prevention conference.
These folks take their marking paint very seriously.  I didn't know how many
different types of orange paint existed before.
A review of 582 damage incidents caused by excavator error resulted in an
average cost to the excavator of $1,488 per incident.  It is often less
expensive for the excavator to dig through the utilities than around them.
In one court case, the excavator's president testified that it was his
company's standard practice to ignore OSHA regulations, ANSI standards, and
guidelines set out in Bell South brochures and to always excavate with
mechanized equipment directly over the orange paint marks showing the
location of underground telecommunications facilities.  He further testified
that his company averaged one and one-half cable cuts a month, and
considered damaging underground facilities as simple a cost of doing
business.
My questions: If he always dug directly over the orange paint marks, why was
the locate so poor he only hit a cable once ever month and a half?
Directional drilling has resulted in a dramatic increase in damage to
underground facilities.  The US Department of Transportation has a safety
study published in 1999.
AT&T has developed a system for monitoring the drillhead called DrillCheck,
and is licensing it for use by others.
AT&T receives 3,000,000 cable locate requests per year.  Due to competition
AT&T has stopped its flying route survellience.  AT&T found stopping the
fly-overs didn't affect the number of cable cuts.
MCI/Worldcom has found one of its most effective tools is handing out $2
hats and other trinkets to railway workers and excavators.  Hats appear to
serve the same purpose as T-shirts for the Internet.
Sprint estimates the cost to repair a single cable cut between $50,000 to
$65,000.  Loss of Use costs may be over $200,000.
In 1995 cable cuts affected 32 air traffic control centers according to the
NTSB.
One-call centers are operating in 49 states and District of Colombia.
Kiewett/Level 3 reported they averaged about 5.5 miles of installed fiber
duct per utility strike.  Their best run was 10 miles per strike, their
worst performance was 3.77 miles per strike.
The $350 million judgement against Qwest was a big topic of discussion.
The National Telecommunication Damage Prevention Council (www.ntdpc.com) was
giving out videotapes of the new "Dig Safely" campaign.
They've decided the "No Digging" symbol (the backhoe and shovel with the red
No symbol) was a bad idea.  The new campaign is focusing on educating
excavators on how to "Dig Safely" instead of stopping them from doing their
work.
Although there are no hard numbers, parallel builds by other carriers
appeared to be the major source of cable cuts among the long-distance fiber
carriers.  Several of the other carriers were hoping one of the more recent
entrants into the long distance business would finish their build soon, so
they would stop cutting other carriers.
Perhaps more important, since it is often the utilities themselves who hire
the excavators, several of them have now realized it is in their own best
interest not to always use the low-bidder.  They are now keeping track of
individual contractors performance, including damage to other utilities, as
part of their bid and contract evaluation.
Several of the major carriers are proposing model state legislation, which
among several things would include the name of the project owner on the dig
permit and one-call notification.



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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote,

Disclosures:  I'm a Nortel employee working in new router design, and 
a Cisco stockholder.  That said, some of these points might be a bit 
harsh on Cisco.

>agnostic might be too strong a term to lavish upon a company that preaches
>"open standards" at prospective customers (such as isl, pim, cgmp, igrp,
>eigrp,their layer 2 hdlc & the rest-meaning, anything they developed in
>isolation and imposed, or are waiting to impose, upon the rest of the
>ip-vulnerable community).

No question that Cisco will try to establish proprietary methods, but 
they are legitimate standards players.  The standards-based version 
of many of the protocols you cite came after Cisco, or someone else, 
first introducted its functionality in some proprietary way:

 ISL:  Cisco actually introduced a VLAN concept with an interpretation
   of IEEE 802.10, but for assorted reasons, some technical and some
   political/marketing, that never caught on.  802.1Q was developed
   after ISL, and 802.1Q is being enhanced by IEEE to have some
   capabilities that are in ISL but not the base standard.
 HDLC: At the time Cisco introduced this, PPP wasn't defined yet.
   PPP itself represents compromises based on the chip implementations
   readily available at the time of its introduction.  LAP-B existed
   but had much more overhead.  Several other vendors had similar
   proprietary variants of HDLC, including Codex/Motorola and Timeplex.
 PIM:  Came out of the research community with Cisco participation.
   Never was proprietary, AFAIK.
 CGMP: Definitely proprietary, although IEEE is considering things with
   some of its functions.  CGMP reflects a different design approach
   than IGMP snooping on switches
 IGRP: The alternative was RIP at the time.  Several people said that
   Cisco tried to put IGRP into the IETF, but other vendors didn't
   want it because Cisco had too much of an advantage, and the
   current design thinking was link state.
 EIGRP:  Definitely a proprietary approach, but DUAL itself was invented
   at Stanford Research Institute. EIGRP does reflect some very serious
   thinking about enhanced distance vector being superior to link state.
   OSPF and ISIS still are evolving.


>while i'm quite certain that they will attempt to
>assimilate any commercially non-trivial communication standard into their
>operating systems, i'm concerned that it's not a legitimate question to ask
>about a single direction they might stumble along for both the backbone and
>the lan, since they will obviously follow the divergent trends in each
>market, no matter the implications for their current technological
>investments (btw: there exists a non-zero chance that the technologies in
>both spaces will converge. in that unlikely event, i'm more than certain
>that cisco won't hesitate in cannibalizing one division to capitalize on
>the other) . .. .

When we are talking about futures, the reality is that we truly don't 
know. To say that carrier-scale backbones will be ATM (probably not), 
POS, IP over raw DWDM, MPLS over raw DWDM, etc., is not yet a given. 
We face challenges such as "is it better to have single 40 Gbps 
OC-768 streams or multiple OC-192 over DWDM?"  There are many routing 
versus switching arguments, and MPLS is a mixture of the two (even 
though there's intense religion about LDP, RSVP-TE, and CR-LDP).   We 
don't know the situations in which photonic switching of lambdas is 
enough, versus photonic routing of individual packets. Lots of things 
we don't know.

I feel fairly comfortable about the lower speeds in the carrier area, 
such as 1 and 10 Gbps. But Cisco, Nortel, and everyone else other 
than focused startups have to hedge their bets.

>
>anyway, if you're truly concerned about anticipating their future, please
>understand that it has less to do with their current product set as we all
>understand it and far more to do with how they anticipate they might
>eviscerate their competitors and conquer markets that they have yet to
>redefine. my assumption all along was that they were not willing to play
>the nortel game of consolidating their wan and lan technologies (as alluded
>to in the previous paragraph) but they might yet prove to be the microsloth
>of the data communications space (nota bene: they've already made
>considerable progress in this venture).
>
>
>
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>cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
>Subject:  Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
>
>
>Cisco is agnostic with regards to technology and protocols. Cisco attempts
>to implement almost all viable protocols. That's their philosophy. So
>you'll see them implement solutions for customers who want ATM and
>solutions for customers who want SONET in the backbone.
>
>With that said, if your question is about ATM on 

boot# set ios-conf =142

[tayta]

boot# set ios-conf  =142

it seems to be a differant procedure for the 800 series than for the 2500,


4hrs blown...but I guess I will know next time or..





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> Dear all
> in a frantic attempt to recover control of a cisco 800 router I have
reached
> the point of boot#
> could anybody advise me of where to go from here. The saved config. is of
no
> interest to me as I want to configure it for my own purposes now.
> any help appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> tayta
>
>
> boot# help
> bootExecute image or CLI command script.
> delete  Deletes file-name from flash (8th delete is permanent).
> disable Disable privileged commands.
> echoDisplay arguments (to test CLI behavior).
> enable  Enable privileged or debug commands.
> erase   Erase deleted and invalid files from flash.
> helpDisplay help for command (* for all).
> listList files currently in ram and saved in flash.
> loadLoad saved boot environment from flash.
> passwd  Set or change the ROM password.
> reset   Reset console port to current parameters.
> set Set boot environment values.
> saveSave boot environment or loaded file to flash.
> showShow current or saved boot environment.
> upload  Load image or configuration data into RAM.
> undeleteUndelete file-name (maximum of 8 deletes & undeletes).
> boot# list
> Status Size DevName
> --   48K  flashTinyROM-1.0(2)
> ---r-x 2967K  flashc800-sy6-mw.120-4.T1.bin
>5120K  free 8192K total
>
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802.1q between HP and Cisco

[Ben Hockenhull]

Folks,

I have a Cat6509 here that I'm trying to configure to do 802.1q VLAN
trunking between itself and an HP ProCurve 4000M switch.

I've run into a problem, though.  I have 8 vlans configured on both
switches, 802.1q ID 1-8.  The vlan *names* on either end match except for
the first vlan.  On the HP, it's 'vlan1'.  On the Cat, it's 'default'
because it cannot be changed, which is annoying.  The vlan IDs match
throughout.

I can ping devices on any of the vlans except for vlan 1, from the Cat.  I
cannot get any connectivity from the Cat to the HP on vlan1.  If I disable
tagged vlans on the HP, I can get ping to vlan1, even while 802.1q is
enabled on the Cat.

Just for fun, I changed the name of vlan1 on the HP to 'default' and it
had no effect, so it doesn't seem to be some weirdness with plain english
identifiers.

Now for the really weird part.  If I configure the trunk on the HP to be
untagged on vlan1 and tagged on all other vlans, I seem to get
connectivity to all vlans from the Cat.

Is there something inherently funky about vlan 1 on the cisco stuff?  It's
really odd that all the other vlans work if configured to be tagged at
both ends, and the config for all 8 vlans is the same at both ends.

This is driving me crazy.

Ben

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Re: bgp question and subnetting

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>Scenario:
>Let's say you have a class C subnet that you break off into two smaller
>networks:
>
>1.1.1.0/24 = 1.1.1.0/25 + 1.1.1.128/25
>
>Problem:
>You are announcing this through BGP, but your provider only allows you to
>advertise full class C addresses.  The problem lies in that you have to
>announce this network as 1.1.1.0/24 but still get traffic to 1.1.1.0/25 &
>1.1.1.128/25.
>
>Solution:
>So, there are two ways to do this:
>
>1) Use an aggregate-address with a suppress map to filter this.
>[snip]
>
>
>2) Use null routes
>[snip]



>Question:
>Which way do you all feel is better?
>
>I read in Boson's test that the preferred way is to use aggregate addresses,
>but this seems to be a much more complex way to do what a simple null route
>can accomplish?  Thought / comments?

First, let me deal with the problem definition. Unless you have a 
more advanced multihoming scenario, why would you ever want to 
advertise anything more specific than /24 to your provider?  The 
provider is going to use the same interface to send to both /25's, 
right? Telling the provider about the more specifics doesn't, in this 
example, give the provider any additional useful information.

Second, this is one of those cases where there's a CCIE Lab way and 
the right way.  It's my general impression that the proctors frown on 
solutions that involve static routes, and that they may explicitly 
say you can't use static routes. This appears to be meant to screen 
out candidates that use static routes when they can't figure out how 
to make dynamic routing do something it should (a Good Thing) and to 
demonstrate knowledge of the full IOS command set even when there is 
a neat and clean static route solution (a Bad Thing).

The blackhole null route, I would say, is the preferred technique of 
most real-world ISP routing engineers.  It doesn't appear to be a 
technique that Cisco emphasizes in classes or tests.  So Boson may be 
right in its approach to test preparation.  In my BGP papers at 
CertificationZone, I give both methods.

>

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CCNA 2.0 Passed !!!

[chackok]

Today I passed CCNA 2.0 with a score of 
870.As usual it was very tricky
and very tough Questions.I managed to get100% 
score in four sections and 
above 60% in others .I got four scenarios,so many commands to 
write/select
and multiple choice questions, including 
access-lists, 
I followed ICND book written by Steve Mcquerry 
and Cisco book written 
by Wendell Odom, which is having lots of scenarios. 

 
Remember Appletalk is not included 
in CCNA 2.0,I went thru that as well.
 
Best wishes to CCNA 2.0 
Candidates...
 
Chacko 
 
 
 
 
  
 

RE: Speed Tip

[Urooj's Hi-speed Internet]

Hi Folks,
For the sake of completeness, please take the following command into account
also:

no logging console

Since during configuration of Layer 2/Layer 3 protocols, the absence of the
above command can slow one down considerably.

Just my 0.02 cents (Canadian) worth.

Aziz

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To: Chuck Larrieu
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Subject: Re: Speed Tip


Hi Chuck,

Whilst you are permitted to use Notepad or any other program present on
your Testing PC, the rules of the CCIE Lab state without that at _no time_
can you save a file to the hard disk.

If during the marking breaks the CCIE proctor finds that you have saved a
file to the hard drive anywhere he will fail you immediately.

Cheers.

On  0, Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rules of the game: I trust you mean that you must remember to delete the
> file from the PC you are using prior to leaving. I.e. you can't leave it
for
> the next person to find. Correct?
>
> I have received tips such as Tony's from other sources. If you check my
> feeble web site www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt you will see that one of those
> from whom I have gathered advice has offered something similar. I have
also
> received this advice verbally from a couple of folks as well.
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> James Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> To:   Tony Olzak
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Speed Tip
>
> Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this file
> somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> rules.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the
> lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
> >
> > en
> > config t
> > ip classless
> > ip subnet-zero
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> > alias exec ci clear ip route *
> > alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> > alias exec i show ip route
> > alias exec ix show ipx route
> > alias exec si show ip interface brief
> > alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> > enable secret cisco
> >
> > line con 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line aux 0
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > line vty 0 4
> > exec-timeout 0 0
> > password cisco
> >
> > Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> >
> > Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the
terminal
> program.
> >
> > I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at
> every router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
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Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

[Paul Borghese]

If you are waiting to get on the list, please accept my apology.

The reason I have not updated the list is because we are having severe
bandwidth problems again.   I can not see adding any additional people to
the list, until the BW is resolved.  The technical staff at CapitalInternet
are really substandard and were not baselining the bandwidth of their site.
So when the lines became congested they just decided to rate-limit some of
their customers.  For the last two weeks I have been fighting them to get
more bandwidth.  The end result is going to be we need to move the server to
a new location.  Any ideas?

For those wondering I will explain the process of updating the CCIE Lab
list.  When I started it took about 5 minutes per request.  While five
minutes a person is not long, if you do not do it every day it does add up.
So I decided to do it in batches ( kinda like any chore).  It could take up
to a month to get on the list as I usually update the list when I have time,
which is about once a month.

A few months ago, I wrote a script that filters the requests for just the
e-mail addresses making the updating much easier.  The last time the script
was run was October 30th ( just before Bandwidth became an issue).  If you
signed up before October 30, please apply again and specify that you
previously signed up before October 30th.  I may need to manually add you
since the script might not be able to ready your e-mail format (are you from
Palm Beach by any chance :-)

So, once we get this Bandwidth issue resolved, we will be back in business.

Please if anyone has any ideas...

Paul Borghese

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From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list


> I dropped a message to Paul B. when I got no answer on being added to the
> CCIE lab List as well.  His reply was that it takes about a month to get
> added to the list.  The moderator does this by groups instead of as they
> come
>
> I guess we've all got to be a little patient.
>
> HTH
>
> Nigel
>
>
> >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Chuck Church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list
> >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:54:46 -0600 (CST)
> >
> >
> >
> >same here :)
> >
> >On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chuck Church wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab
> >list?
> > > I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chuck Church


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Support2.0 2nd question- re:Boson

[Paul Fazzone]

Hello for the second time this hour.  One more question.  How are the
Boson tests for Support2.0?  I purchased the first set and breezed
through all 4 with grades in the mid 80's to mid 90's.  Any thoughts?

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Support 2.0 and Appletalk

[Paul Fazzone]

Hey, folks.  Can anyone give a rough estimate of the depth of Appletalk
on the Support2.0?  I am scheduled to take it tomorrow afternoon and
just need to know how much I should brush up on.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 11:43 PM 12/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>agnostic might be too strong a term to lavish upon a company that preaches
>"open standards"

It's Cisco's word, not mine. They've been using it for years, including the 
years that I worked there and today. It means they support open standards 
and have no religion regarding one technology being better than an other. 
IGRP isn't open, but it's an exception.

Priscilla

>at prospective customers (such as isl, pim, cgmp, igrp,
>eigrp,their layer 2 hdlc & the rest-meaning, anything they developed in
>isolation and imposed, or are waiting to impose, upon the rest of the
>ip-vulnerable community). while i'm quite certain that they will attempt to
>assimilate any commercially non-trivial communication standard into their
>operating systems, i'm concerned that it's not a legitimate question to ask
>about a single direction they might stumble along for both the backbone and
>the lan, since they will obviously follow the divergent trends in each
>market, no matter the implications for their current technological
>investments (btw: there exists a non-zero chance that the technologies in
>both spaces will converge. in that unlikely event, i'm more than certain
>that cisco won't hesitate in cannibalizing one division to capitalize on
>the other) . .. .
>
>anyway, if you're truly concerned about anticipating their future, please
>understand that it has less to do with their current product set as we all
>understand it and far more to do with how they anticipate they might
>eviscerate their competitors and conquer markets that they have yet to
>redefine. my assumption all along was that they were not willing to play
>the nortel game of consolidating their wan and lan technologies (as alluded
>to in the previous paragraph) but they might yet prove to be the microsloth
>of the data communications space (nota bene: they've already made
>considerable progress in this venture).
>
>a not-completely-insipid rule of thumb might be to assume that cisco is
>actively plotting to invade any data-communications technology space that
>either has market share or a company hawking its wares at a suffciently
>alluring stock price.
>
>(please note that it remains somewhat insipid . . . thanks)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 12/02/2000
>04:45:39 PM
>
>Please respond to Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>To:   "cslx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
>Subject:  Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
>
>
>Cisco is agnostic with regards to technology and protocols. Cisco attempts
>to implement almost all viable protocols. That's their philosophy. So
>you'll see them implement solutions for customers who want ATM and
>solutions for customers who want SONET in the backbone.
>
>With that said, if your question is about ATM on a campus network, we heard
>recently that they are removing LAN Emulation (LANE) from the CCIE test, so
>that may say something about their direction, or I could be reading too
>much into that decision.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 07:24 AM 12/2/00, cslx wrote:
> >anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?
> >I want to know which field cisco want focus on in the next decade.
> >IP over ATM switch at the backbone
> >or IP over sonet at the backbone
> >that means for the man or campus network, which one is cisco's prefer
>choice
> >or has the priority?
> >any1 can foresee the furture of ATM in china, and will it be replaced by
> >using total ip switching over backbone sonet transwmission?
> >I am seriously asking this question.
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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 12:10 PM 12/3/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

>When we are talking about futures, the reality is that we truly don't 
>know. To say that carrier-scale backbones will be ATM (probably not), POS, 
>IP over raw DWDM, MPLS over raw DWDM, etc., is not yet a given.

Thanks for turning this into a logical, well-written discussion instead of 
a harangue, Howard.

Probably not ATM for carrier-scale backbones? Is it because MPLS is looking 
like a better model? I realize I'm asking you to look into your crystal 
ball, and that's always hard, but I'm interested in the technical reasons 
off the cuff. (I know it could require a whole book to give a true answer! 
&;-)

Priscilla

>We face challenges such as "is it better to have single 40 Gbps OC-768 
>streams or multiple OC-192 over DWDM?"  There are many routing versus 
>switching arguments, and MPLS is a mixture of the two (even though there's 
>intense religion about LDP, RSVP-TE, and CR-LDP).   We don't know the 
>situations in which photonic switching of lambdas is enough, versus 
>photonic routing of individual packets. Lots of things we don't know.
>




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RE: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

[Chuck Larrieu]

Paul, how necessary is it for you to be in the same physical location as the
server? In other words, if you are co-locating the server now, is the issue
the cost of co-locating with a provider who provides better bandwidth and
service?

Or do you have a DSL line into your home, and are you running the server and
service from a spare room?

Oh, and what's the name of that ISP again? Do they use Cisco equipment? Do
they try to hire Cisco certified individuals?  ;->

Chuck

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul
Borghese
Sent:   Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:27 AM
To: Nigel Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

If you are waiting to get on the list, please accept my apology.

The reason I have not updated the list is because we are having severe
bandwidth problems again.   I can not see adding any additional people to
the list, until the BW is resolved.  The technical staff at CapitalInternet
are really substandard and were not baselining the bandwidth of their site.
So when the lines became congested they just decided to rate-limit some of
their customers.  For the last two weeks I have been fighting them to get
more bandwidth.  The end result is going to be we need to move the server to
a new location.  Any ideas?

For those wondering I will explain the process of updating the CCIE Lab
list.  When I started it took about 5 minutes per request.  While five
minutes a person is not long, if you do not do it every day it does add up.
So I decided to do it in batches ( kinda like any chore).  It could take up
to a month to get on the list as I usually update the list when I have time,
which is about once a month.

A few months ago, I wrote a script that filters the requests for just the
e-mail addresses making the updating much easier.  The last time the script
was run was October 30th ( just before Bandwidth became an issue).  If you
signed up before October 30, please apply again and specify that you
previously signed up before October 30th.  I may need to manually add you
since the script might not be able to ready your e-mail format (are you from
Palm Beach by any chance :-)

So, once we get this Bandwidth issue resolved, we will be back in business.

Please if anyone has any ideas...

Paul Borghese

- Original Message -
From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list


> I dropped a message to Paul B. when I got no answer on being added to the
> CCIE lab List as well.  His reply was that it takes about a month to get
> added to the list.  The moderator does this by groups instead of as they
> come
>
> I guess we've all got to be a little patient.
>
> HTH
>
> Nigel
>
>
> >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Chuck Church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list
> >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:54:46 -0600 (CST)
> >
> >
> >
> >same here :)
> >
> >On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chuck Church wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab
> >list?
> > > I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chuck Church


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New CCIE Tracks

[Bruce Williams]

I am curious what peoples thought are on the retirement of CCIE/SNA, CCIE
ISP and CCIE WAN the soon to be released CCIE SP. I am looking forward to
these changes because it seems as if Cisco CCIE tracks are becoming more
relevant to the type of work that I do.

Bruce

Comprehensive CCIE Service Provider Track Planned for 2001

As market trends move toward a solutions driven approach, the CCIE program
is doing the same.  The CCIE Service Provider (SP) track will become that
evolutionary vehicle and it is under development now. Because WAN Switching
and last-mile technologies such as ISP-Dial are central to SP solutions, the
need for stand-alone certifications in WAN Switching and ISP-Dial no longer
serve the industry. Therefore, both qualification exams in these areas will
go off-line worldwide on January 31, 2001, with the corresponding Lab exams
off-line on August 31, 2001.

If you are on a course for either CCIE ISP-Dial (#350-004) or CCIE WAN
Switching (#350-007) you have until January 31, 2001 to take either exam.
The CCIE ISP-Dial and WAN Switching Lab exams will be open through August
31, 2001. If you are unable to schedule or do not pass the Lab exam before
the August 31, 2001 deadline, you will automatically qualify and can
schedule the CCIE SP Lab when available. Direct your questions regarding
program changes to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stay tuned to this What's New page for up to date information on CCIE SP
structure, beta, and release. Details on the new track will be available in
February 2001.



CCIE SNA/IP Integration Exam Retired

The CCIE SNA/IP Integration Qualification and Lab exams will be retired in
2001. The written qualification exam will be available through January 31,
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Re: Catalyst 3512XL and fragment-free switching?

[Jason]

No I still haven't found an answer!  I'll repost!

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> Hi Jason,
>
> Did you ever get an answer to this?
>
> I am going insane - I thought I could look at my 3548-XL-EN real quick and
> figure it out, but I can't even see what frame switching mode it is
running.
>
> I have been searching like a maniac on the CCO, but I have had no luck
> whatsoever finding any information about how to [1] see what frame
switching
> mode running on the 35xx, [2] see what default frame switching mode is set
> on the 35xx, or [3] how to change the frame switching mode on  a 35xx.
>
> I looked in my old ICND book from Cisco Press, but it only mentioned the
> default mode on the 19xx. In my BCMSN book from Cisco Press I can't find
> anything about it, and in my Cisco LAN Switching book by Clark, it
mentions
> what modes the Catalysts can run on page 61, but the 35xx is not included
in
> that table, so I guess it's too new???
>
> Arrr
>
> If anyone know - please tell.
>
> Thanks and have a great weekend,
>
> Ole
>
> 
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
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>
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Catalyst 3512XL and fragment-free switching?
>
>
> I can't find any docs on whether the Catalyst 3512XL can do fast forward
or
> fragment-free switching.  Has anyone done this or can you point me in the
> right direction in CCO?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
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Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

[Paul Borghese]

> Paul, how necessary is it for you to be in the same physical location as
the
> server?

Not necessary.  Just maybe once or twice a year if we need up upgrade memory
etc.

 In other words, if you are co-locating the server now, is the issue
> the cost of co-locating with a provider who provides better bandwidth and
> service?

The cost is the limiting factor.  We use approximately 5 GB/Day.

>
> Or do you have a DSL line into your home, and are you running the server
and
> service from a spare room?

No - co-location facility.

>
> Oh, and what's the name of that ISP again? Do they use Cisco equipment? Do
> they try to hire Cisco certified individuals?

They have one guy who is at all technical.  This guy is hypersensitive to
any suggestion that he might have misconfigured something.  The bottom line
is we need a better provider and can not afford the big boys.

Take care,

Paul


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Cut-through, Store and Forward, or Fragment Free Switching with 3512 XL????

[Jason]

Can anyone point me in the right direction to find out about the different
switching modes available on the 3512 XL.  I can't even find out what the
default method is.  Any help is greatly appreciated!

Jason


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RE: boot# set ios-conf =142

[Sam Adams]

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/pswdrec_800.html

Found it in 2 minutes.  Sorry you wasted your time.

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Subject: boot# set ios-conf =142


boot# set ios-conf  =142

it seems to be a differant procedure for the 800 series than for the 2500,


4hrs blown...but I guess I will know next time or..





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> Dear all
> in a frantic attempt to recover control of a cisco 800 router I have
reached
> the point of boot#
> could anybody advise me of where to go from here. The saved config. is of
no
> interest to me as I want to configure it for my own purposes now.
> any help appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> tayta
>
>
> boot# help
> bootExecute image or CLI command script.
> delete  Deletes file-name from flash (8th delete is permanent).
> disable Disable privileged commands.
> echoDisplay arguments (to test CLI behavior).
> enable  Enable privileged or debug commands.
> erase   Erase deleted and invalid files from flash.
> helpDisplay help for command (* for all).
> listList files currently in ram and saved in flash.
> loadLoad saved boot environment from flash.
> passwd  Set or change the ROM password.
> reset   Reset console port to current parameters.
> set Set boot environment values.
> saveSave boot environment or loaded file to flash.
> showShow current or saved boot environment.
> upload  Load image or configuration data into RAM.
> undeleteUndelete file-name (maximum of 8 deletes & undeletes).
> boot# list
> Status Size DevName
> --   48K  flashTinyROM-1.0(2)
> ---r-x 2967K  flashc800-sy6-mw.120-4.T1.bin
>5120K  free 8192K total
>
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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Kevin_Cullimore]

Disclosure: i work with equipment manufactured by both nortel & cisco (or
companies they assimilated) and make every effort to be equally unfair to
both.

thanks for the clarification about PIM, i was unaware of those
circumstances. in the original list i forgot hsrp, which-i'm told-falls
under the "no existing standard at the time it was introduced" category (of
course, it also falls under the "the eventual standard that emerged is
different" category).

as best i can tell, one remaining point merits explicit clarification (no
matter how against my nature that might be)

you point out that we do not know enough about the future to adequately
answer the original question, but that potentially obscures the fact that,
like microsoft, cisco is a world-class leader in abrupt directional shifts
(presumably, the only useful context for the abomination "internet time"),
so insider knowledge about their long term direction at any given point in
space & time might not be of much use 12 months hence. i also suspect that
you are correct about them hedging their bets somewhat, so that it would be
incorrect to presume that they are focusing on one potential implementation
of a given technology to the exclusion of all others.







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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote,

Disclosures:  I'm a Nortel employee working in new router design, and
a Cisco stockholder.  That said, some of these points might be a bit
harsh on Cisco.

>agnostic might be too strong a term to lavish upon a company that preaches
>"open standards" at prospective customers (such as isl, pim, cgmp, igrp,
>eigrp,their layer 2 hdlc & the rest-meaning, anything they developed in
>isolation and imposed, or are waiting to impose, upon the rest of the
>ip-vulnerable community).

No question that Cisco will try to establish proprietary methods, but
they are legitimate standards players.  The standards-based version
of many of the protocols you cite came after Cisco, or someone else,
first introducted its functionality in some proprietary way:

 ISL:  Cisco actually introduced a VLAN concept with an interpretation
   of IEEE 802.10, but for assorted reasons, some technical and
some
   political/marketing, that never caught on.  802.1Q was developed
   after ISL, and 802.1Q is being enhanced by IEEE to have some
   capabilities that are in ISL but not the base standard.
 HDLC: At the time Cisco introduced this, PPP wasn't defined yet.
   PPP itself represents compromises based on the chip
implementations
   readily available at the time of its introduction.  LAP-B
existed
   but had much more overhead.  Several other vendors had similar
   proprietary variants of HDLC, including Codex/Motorola and
Timeplex.
 PIM:  Came out of the research community with Cisco participation.
   Never was proprietary, AFAIK.
 CGMP: Definitely proprietary, although IEEE is considering things with
   some of its functions.  CGMP reflects a different design
approach
   than IGMP snooping on switches
 IGRP: The alternative was RIP at the time.  Several people said that
   Cisco tried to put IGRP into the IETF, but other vendors didn't
   want it because Cisco had too much of an advantage, and the
   current design thinking was link state.
 EIGRP:  Definitely a proprietary approach, but DUAL itself was
invented
   at Stanford Research Institute. EIGRP does reflect some very
serious
   thinking about enhanced distance vector being superior to link
state.
   OSPF and ISIS still are evolving.


>while i'm quite certain that they will attempt to
>assimilate any commercially non-trivial communication standard into their
>operating systems, i'm concerned that it's not a legitimate question to
ask
>about a single direction they might stumble along for both the backbone
and
>the lan, since they will obviously follow the divergent trends in each
>market, no matter the implications for their current technological
>investments (btw: there exists a non-zero chance that the technologies in
>both spaces will converge. in that unlikely event, i'm more than certain
>that cisco won't hesitate in cannibalizing one division to capitalize on
>the other) . .. .

When we are talking about futures, the reality is that we truly don't
know. To say that carrier-scale backbones will be ATM (probably not),
POS, IP over raw DWDM, MPLS over raw DWDM, etc., is not yet a given.
We face challenges such as "is it better to have single 40 Gbps
OC-768 streams or multiple OC-192 over DWDM?"  There are many routing
versus switching arguments, and MPLS is a mixture of the two (even
though

Good reference book for Support/CIT

[Joseph Ezerski]

I am nearly complete in my quest for CCNP.  I only have the CIT/Support exam
to take.  To date, most of my studying has come from Exam Cram and Boson
tests.  I realize that those books serve only to help with quick
memorization and test cramming.  I have also purchased and am reading other
publications, like Jeff Doyle's book and Halabi's book.  I am looking for a
good reference book for CIT and Troubleshooting, the type of book I can
actually use in the real world as I get my hands on more and more equipment
(I work for an ISP).  I am eventually moving on to CCIE written and I have
been buying books in the Cisco Press CCIE series (i.e. Doyle, etc).  What
would this fine group recommend as the best source for Troubleshooting that
would not only help me with CCIE written, but with real world problems...

Thanks in advance,

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PIX PAT problem

[Jim Bond]

Hello,

I'm having a problem using PIX PAT. Here is my config:

PIX Version 5.2(3)
ip address outside 24.176.234.252 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
global (outside) 1 interface
nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
conduit permit icmp any any
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 24.176.234.1 1

The problem is it works fine for a while, then
connection is lost. It will work again if I ping
inside interface and then ping outside gateway. I'm
wondering if there is a default timeout setting that I
can modify?

Thanks in advance.


Jim


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WIC-2A/S & Courier Modems?

[Greg Reaume]

Hi There,

I have a 1750 with a WIC-2A/S (2 Asynchronous/Synchronous Serial) and 2 USR
Courier V.Everything modems attached via 2 DB25-SmartSerial cables.  The
courier modems have a synchronous mode I'd like to use and was wondering if
anyone here has tried this configuration before.  I've tried putting the
couriers in sync mode and using in-band v.25 dialer on the dialer interface
but I keep getting a message saying encapsulation failed in the debug.  I've
tried both PPP & HDLC and got same message.

I don't have too much experience with dial-up so I may be doing something
wrong as far as configuration goes.  I've just done ISDN before.  If anyone
could provide a sample config or suggestion to get me on the right track I'd
really appreciate it.  I've already spent the last 3 days scouring CCO for
some configs but all dial-up stuff with chat-scripts and the like are for
asynchronous and I can't seem to find much on sync.  I'd like to use PPP if
possible and bond the two channels.

TIA,

Greg


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Re: WIC-2A/S & Courier Modems?

[Greg Reaume]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I do, of course, have the same modems on the
other end of the POTS connection hanging off a WIC-2A/S on a 2600.

Also, for reference I've included the link to the Courier's documentation.
The section about sync mode is chapter 12.

ftp://ftp.usr.com/usr/dl05/1024494.pdf

TIA,

Greg



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Hi There,

I have a 1750 with a WIC-2A/S (2 Asynchronous/Synchronous Serial) and 2 USR
Courier V.Everything modems attached via 2 DB25-SmartSerial cables.  The
courier modems have a synchronous mode I'd like to use and was wondering if
anyone here has tried this configuration before.  I've tried putting the
couriers in sync mode and using in-band v.25 dialer on the dialer interface
but I keep getting a message saying encapsulation failed in the debug.  I've
tried both PPP & HDLC and got same message.

I don't have too much experience with dial-up so I may be doing something
wrong as far as configuration goes.  I've just done ISDN before.  If anyone
could provide a sample config or suggestion to get me on the right track I'd
really appreciate it.  I've already spent the last 3 days scouring CCO for
some configs but all dial-up stuff with chat-scripts and the like are for
asynchronous and I can't seem to find much on sync.  I'd like to use PPP if
possible and bond the two channels.

TIA,

Greg


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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>Disclosure: i work with equipment manufactured by both nortel & cisco (or
>companies they assimilated) and make every effort to be equally unfair to
>both.
>
>thanks for the clarification about PIM, i was unaware of those
>circumstances. in the original list i forgot hsrp, which-i'm told-falls
>under the "no existing standard at the time it was introduced" category (of
>course, it also falls under the "the eventual standard that emerged is
>different" category).

HSRP has significant ancestry in DEC's cluster protocols. The IETF's 
VRRP protocol is functionally almost identical to HSRP.

>
>as best i can tell, one remaining point merits explicit clarification (no
>matter how against my nature that might be)
>
>you point out that we do not know enough about the future to adequately
>answer the original question, but that potentially obscures the fact that,
>like microsoft, cisco is a world-class leader in abrupt directional shifts
>(presumably, the only useful context for the abomination "internet time"),
>so insider knowledge about their long term direction at any given point in
>space & time might not be of much use 12 months hence. i also suspect that
>you are correct about them hedging their bets somewhat, so that it would be
>incorrect to presume that they are focusing on one potential implementation
>of a given technology to the exclusion of all others.

Intuitively, I think there are important differences, at least in 
part, for the market of Microsoft and Cisco.  The argument is not as 
strong in the enterprise networking as the carrier networking space. 
In carrier networking, however, the "customers" themselves push the 
technologies and may very well introduce approaches of their own. 
Even more importantly, carriers have a century or so of using 
standards-based approaches whenever possible.

It's informative to look at how well Juniper has competed with Cisco 
in the carrier router space, in part because they don't have the 
baggage of the legacy mechanisms IOS needs to support. Also, Nortel's 
installed base in optical networking is far greater than Cisco's.

I suppose my point is that the carrier market is much more 
competitive than the enterprise networking market, which in turn is 
more competitive than the market that Microsoft inhabits.

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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>At 12:10 PM 12/3/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>
>>When we are talking about futures, the reality is that we truly 
>>don't know. To say that carrier-scale backbones will be ATM 
>>(probably not), POS, IP over raw DWDM, MPLS over raw DWDM, etc., is 
>>not yet a given.
>
>Thanks for turning this into a logical, well-written discussion 
>instead of a harangue, Howard.
>
>Probably not ATM for carrier-scale backbones? Is it because MPLS is 
>looking like a better model? I realize I'm asking you to look into 
>your crystal ball, and that's always hard, but I'm interested in the 
>technical reasons off the cuff. (I know it could require a whole 
>book to give a true answer! &;-)

Well, I just wrote one, although I don't think there is a firm 
consensus as yet on what will win. Shameless plug:  _WAN Survival 
Guide_, ISBN 0-471-3428-3 (Wiley). Published just in time for the 
Christmas rush. :-)

But yes, I believe MPLS is a superior model to ATM. Lots of people 
call it "ATM without cells," removing the problem of the cell tax.

MPLS does not replace IP, but is an "overdrive" for IP. The biggest 
confusion about MPLS, which I found in a number of Cisco 
presentations, is that MPLS is far more than the label-switched paths 
themselves.  These paths need to be set up by routing mechanisms.

When I say routing mechanism, I include both dynamic IP routing 
protocols and extensions for traffic engineering. RSVP-TE, LDP, and 
CR-LDP don't replace routing, but distribute label switching 
information that is based on routing (including traffic engineering 
overrides to routing).

Many of the "optical routing" discussions really aren't talking about 
something radically different, but, for example, identifying a path 
by lambda rather than explicit label.

>
>Priscilla
>
>>We face challenges such as "is it better to have single 40 Gbps 
>>OC-768 streams or multiple OC-192 over DWDM?"  There are many 
>>routing versus switching arguments, and MPLS is a mixture of the 
>>two (even though there's intense religion about LDP, RSVP-TE, and 
>>CR-LDP).   We don't know the situations in which photonic switching 
>>of lambdas is enough, versus photonic routing of individual 
>>packets. Lots of things we don't know.
>>

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CCDA Question

[Jeff Douglas]

I have recently passed the CCNA exam and I have the old version of the Cisco
Press CCDA book. Does this book contain enough information for me to be
successful with the CCDA ver 2 exam?



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Re: Fast Ethernet MTU Size

[Tony van Ree]

Hi all,

I was under the impression that an ethernet frame had a maximum size of 1500 bytes.  
This did not include the addresses or the FCS.  To increase the MTU beyond that size 
would indeed create a giant on ethernet.  As it is you will find some devices give an 
error message when including an ISL header.  (A gig port on a 2984 is a good example)  
In the case of the 2984 the data still goes through ok but when you get a packet over 
1484 bytes an whack it through the port the error rate rises.   Anything small is ok.

It does seem to me that the basic ethernet standards define the max MTU pretty well.

I could however have mis understood all these years.

Thanks,

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia.

On Saturday, December 02, 2000 at 12:25:13 AM, Kevin Wigle wrote:

> there is a "mtu" command.
> 
> In a somewhat similar situation - I had built a circuit using lan emulation
> that terminated on a bvi on a 7505.
> 
> The bvi had an ip address and placed into an OSPF area.
> 
> I'm not aware of the defaults with a router that has both ATM and ethernet
> but I didn't take notice of the mtu that the bvi had - I assumed that it was
> just like an ethernet interface
> 
> On the distant end of the lan emulation was an ordinary router with an
> ethernet interface and it was also configured into the OSPF area.
> 
> However, OSPF didn't work.  debugging showed that an adjacency wasn't being
> formed.
> 
> Turning up yet more debugging - finally an error about "mtu size not equal"
> was noticed.
> 
> sure enough, the bvi had the ATM mtu of 4470..
> 
> using the mtu command on the bvi interface "mtu 1500", the adjacency formed
> immediately and all was well.
> 
> so, my guess would be that a fast ethernet probably has the same "mtu"
> command, try it out.
> 
> Kevin Wigle
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Darren Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 22:02
> Subject: Fast Ethernet MTU Size
> 
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Is it at all possible to raise the MTU size on Fast Ethernet?
> >
> > I'll give you all a scenario
> >
> > ATM on one side with an MTU of 4470, fast ethernet connecting the two
> > routers, Gigabit Ethernet the other side with an MTU of 4470.
> >
> > How can I raise the MTU of a Full Duplex Fast Ethernet Connection above
> > 1500?
> >
> > I assume it's not possible when going through switched as they will show
> > every packet as a giant but in a router to router cross-over connection
> > I was hoping there was some way to keep the MTU static across the path
> > rather than force the routers to fragment and re-assemble (of course the
> > destination re-assembles).
> >
> > Darren Ward
> > CCNP, CCDP, CCIE Wannabee
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Passed the CCIE Written

[Gordon Olson]

I want to say thank you, a BIG Thank You to Bernard who wrote the Boson
tests for the CCIE. They are Super!! A few weeks ago I bought the MCNS Boson
Exam and received an email from Bernard. After a few emails back n' forth he
convinced me that I should go for the CCIE Written because he felt I was 85%
there, being a CCNP. Well, I thought about it and went for it.

Being a CCNP I have read a lot of books along the way that helped prepare
me, but I did not know that, but Bernard did. I bought Both his tests for
the CCIE and passed the written on the first attempt. The Exams are written
with Cisco links that help you develop areas that may be unclear. The
answers are backed up with Excellent explanations so you really understand
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Re: 802.1q between HP and Cisco

[Brian]

Don't use vlan 1, the native vlan, for trunking to the 4000.  Use vlans
2-9 instead of 1-8

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Ben Hockenhull wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I have a Cat6509 here that I'm trying to configure to do 802.1q VLAN
> trunking between itself and an HP ProCurve 4000M switch.
>
> I've run into a problem, though.  I have 8 vlans configured on both
> switches, 802.1q ID 1-8.  The vlan *names* on either end match except for
> the first vlan.  On the HP, it's 'vlan1'.  On the Cat, it's 'default'
> because it cannot be changed, which is annoying.  The vlan IDs match
> throughout.
>
> I can ping devices on any of the vlans except for vlan 1, from the Cat.  I
> cannot get any connectivity from the Cat to the HP on vlan1.  If I disable
> tagged vlans on the HP, I can get ping to vlan1, even while 802.1q is
> enabled on the Cat.
>
> Just for fun, I changed the name of vlan1 on the HP to 'default' and it
> had no effect, so it doesn't seem to be some weirdness with plain english
> identifiers.
>
> Now for the really weird part.  If I configure the trunk on the HP to be
> untagged on vlan1 and tagged on all other vlans, I seem to get
> connectivity to all vlans from the Cat.
>
> Is there something inherently funky about vlan 1 on the cisco stuff?  It's
> really odd that all the other vlans work if configured to be tagged at
> both ends, and the config for all 8 vlans is the same at both ends.
>
> This is driving me crazy.
>
> Ben
>
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Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

[Brian]

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Paul Borghese wrote:

> If you are waiting to get on the list, please accept my apology.
>
> The reason I have not updated the list is because we are having severe
> bandwidth problems again.   I can not see adding any additional people to
> the list, until the BW is resolved.  The technical staff at CapitalInternet
> are really substandard and were not baselining the bandwidth of their site.
> So when the lines became congested they just decided to rate-limit some of
> their customers.  For the last two weeks I have been fighting them to get
> more bandwidth.  The end result is going to be we need to move the server to
> a new location.  Any ideas?

You could put it at ShreveNet :)  We have transit to Sprint, Qwest, Global
Crossing, UUNet and Cable and Wireless.

>
> For those wondering I will explain the process of updating the CCIE Lab
> list.  When I started it took about 5 minutes per request.  While five
> minutes a person is not long, if you do not do it every day it does add up.
> So I decided to do it in batches ( kinda like any chore).  It could take up
> to a month to get on the list as I usually update the list when I have time,
> which is about once a month.
>
> A few months ago, I wrote a script that filters the requests for just the
> e-mail addresses making the updating much easier.  The last time the script
> was run was October 30th ( just before Bandwidth became an issue).  If you
> signed up before October 30, please apply again and specify that you
> previously signed up before October 30th.  I may need to manually add you
> since the script might not be able to ready your e-mail format (are you from
> Palm Beach by any chance :-)
>
> So, once we get this Bandwidth issue resolved, we will be back in business.
>
> Please if anyone has any ideas...


I would offer you free colo at shreve.net, we have plenty of
bandwidth.

>
> Paul Borghese
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list
>
>
> > I dropped a message to Paul B. when I got no answer on being added to the
> > CCIE lab List as well.  His reply was that it takes about a month to get
> > added to the list.  The moderator does this by groups instead of as they
> > come
> >
> > I guess we've all got to be a little patient.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> >
> > >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Chuck Church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list
> > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:54:46 -0600 (CST)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >same here :)
> > >
> > >On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chuck Church wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know how to get in touch with the admin for the CCIE Lab
> > >list?
> > > > I've sent a couple requests and never got a response.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Chuck Church
>
>

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Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

[Tony van Ree]

Hi,

A couple of things that I always look at.

1, Do you have a link at both ends.

Yes then the port speeds and cable are fine e
else
Check the cable and port speed.

2. Is the switch port set to and running Half Duplex.

No set the port to half duplex.  Autonegotiate will almost certainly fail to the old 
Synoptics hub and therre is every chance that you are failing here.  Yoiu can usally 
pick this up very easily by checking the switch port.  If a duplex setting is bad you 
will have heaps of late collisions and runts.  This can be enough to cause your 
network to fail.

Hope this is ok.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Friday, December 01, 2000 at 07:30:36 AM, Bradley J. Wilson wrote:

> Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday morning,
> and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:
> 
> My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their existing
> network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
> stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
> collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
> switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users" directly
> onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We attached
> the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.
> 
> The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem accessing
> the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.  We
> tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
> either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch, and
> nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work was using a *crossover*
> cable between the hub and the switch.
> 
> Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this newsgroup, btw) is that when you're
> connecting devices at different OSI layers, you use a straight-through -
> e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router, hub to switch - that's all
> straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're connecting devices at the
> same OSI layer - router to router, switch to switch, hub to hub, PC to PC.
> In the situation yesterday, a straight-through seemed logical, as we were
> trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong here?  Why did the
> crossover work?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> BJ
> 
> P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm trying to get them to change
> that. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: BCRAN question

[Tony van Ree]

It is important to understand what is in the Cisco Press BCRAN book.  Whilst the 
little extra knowledge is hard to acquire once you have it it is easy to carry.

I found the BCRAN the most useful exam in my day to day life.  Understanding the 
different routers is not a bad thing.

Have fun and keep smilin'

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Saturday, December 02, 2000 at 10:20:59 PM, whitaker wrote:

> For those of you that have passed this test, how important is it to know the
> various models of routers?  I'm familiar with the different series routers
> and what Cisco recommends them for (i.e., branch office, telecommuter,
> central office), but do you have to know it down to actual port
> configurations? (i.e., model 25xx has so many serial ports, so many async
> ports, and so many ethernet ports, etc).  It seems rather futile knowing
> this since in practice one can always look in the product guide, but the
> BCRAN book I have says it is important to know this stuff.
> 
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Re: Remote discovery of a Servers Network Mask ?

[Tony van Ree]

Phil,

Does a Unix box not think it is a router and also by default attempt to run RIP.  If 
this is the case the the box will advertise itself. RIPv2 may also send the mask.

Just a thought.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia.

On Friday, December 01, 2000 at 09:24:55 PM, Phil Barker wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>I had Fluke in this week showing me one of their
> gadgets for basic problem determination i.e 10/100 Meg
> duplexity. Which pairs are being used etc.
> 
> It discovered one of our Unix Servers, and gave it a
> classfull A mask i.e /8 which I new was incorrect from
> experience it has 8 bits of subnetting i.e /16.
> 
> My question is, do you know of any circumstance when a
> Server would need to advertise its own network mask
> for any reason ? I cannot think of one off the top of
> my head, apart from if it had routing enabled, which
> it hasn't.
> 
> I suspect I could extract it via a SNMP GET command,
> if SNMP is enabled on the Server !!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phil
> 
> PS : tried RFC 792 & 1256 but no luck in there.
> 
> 
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Re: BGP Update Message Contents?

[kisito nguene]

Bob,

You'll see here how an update message looks like (Lab Tests).
Basically, all the NLRI (prefixes) that have the same
attributes are gouped in the same update message. In this
example, the update message total length is 4 KB.
Hope this helps.

- Kisito

Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV 194.168.6.2+56461 -> 194.168.6.1+179
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV message type 2 (Update) length 4094
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV flags 0x40 code Origin(1): IGP
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV flags 0x40 code ASPath(2): 6 500 400 300 200 
100
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV flags 0x40 code NextHop(3): 194.168.6.2
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV flags 0x80 code MultiExitDisc(4): 5
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV195.204.244/24, 195.204.245/24, 
195.204.246/24,
195.204.247/24
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV195.204.248/24, 195.204.249/24, 
195.204.250/24,
195.204.251/24
Dec  1 10:33:21 BGP RECV195.204.252/24, 195.204.253/24, 
195.204.254/24,
195.204.255/24
...etc ...


>From: Bob Hunter 
>Reply-To: Bob Hunter 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: BGP Update Message Contents?
>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:06:11 -0600
>
>Hi,
>
>I haven't had a chance to run this through a sniffer yet to examine the
>packets, but am wondering if someone could help me understand the
>rfc1771 reference to BGP update messages. When a BGP update messages is
>sent describing a route, are several update messages sent, each with a
>singular path attribute flag, and attribute type code, or does one
>update message contain all of the path attributes, and codes within one
>segment?
>The rfc1771 seams to read plural by stating variable length sequence of
>path attributes.
>
>Thank you for your assistance.
>
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Re: 2610 csu/dsu configuration

[Kelly Scroggins]

I figured out how to configure it last Friday.  My
earliest oportuntiy for testing is tonight after
our production hours.

Thanks for all the replies.

kelly

Quoting Taylor, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Yes, you're right; I wasn't specific enough, I suppose, in my explanation. I
   know the encapsulation is configured on the router under the interface and
   that it's separate from the CSU. Since the question indicated configuring
   the CSU for HDLC, I mentioned that she didn't need to change it. I should
   have specified that even if she had to, it would be separate from the CSU.
   My bad! =(  Sorry, if I've confused anyone.

   - Don
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 4:02 PM
   To: Taylor, Don; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: 2610 csu/dsu configuration
   
   
   Don, I believe that a CSU is a layer one device. I have never seen any
   option on any CSU I have ever worked with, internal or external, for line
   encapsulation. It is always AMI / B8ZS and SF / ESF choices.

   on the router interface is where you configure HDLC or PPP. ( Or SDLC or
   SMDS or frame relay, for that matter. ) This is done with both internal and
   external CSU's.

   notice that within the Cisco config, you even differentiate between the
   serial interface and the service module when issuing commands.

   Chuck
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Taylor, Don
   Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:38 PM
   To: 'Kelly Scroggins'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: 2610 csu/dsu configuration
   
   
   
   There's not too much to it. HDLC is the default encapsulation, so you won't
   have to change that. And if the second router you're connecting too has a
   Cisco internal CSU, they'll have the same default. Basically you just need
   to put clocking on one of the routers and that should do it. The command is
   "clock rate ?" (you get to choose the speed - might as well go with the
   fastest, 400).
   
   The commands for configuring your CSU, though, are (in interface config
   mode) "service-module t1 ?" (get the list). The ones I use most often are:
   
   "service-module t1 timeslots 1-24 speed 64"; this sets the CSU up for 24
   channels at 64K per channel (T1 speed) 
   "service-module t1 linecode b8zs"; B8ZS line coding, as opposed to AMI (your
   provider can tell you which one to use) 
   "service-module t1 framing esf"; ESF or SF are your framing choices 
   
   Hope that helps. Lemme know if you need something else. 
   
   - Don 
   
   -Original Message- 
   From: Kelly Scroggins [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    ] 
   Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:35 PM 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: 2610 csu/dsu configuration 
   
   
   Can someone point me to some good documentation on 
   how to configure the csu/dsu module in a 2610 for 
   a plain ordinary hdlc t1 connection? 
   
   Thanks, 
   kelly 
   
   
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Passed BCRAN,now on to support

[Zhang Jin]

Dear Group,

I just want to say thanks to everybody helped me for my bcran exam prep.I
passed the exam last Saturday. Now 3 finished,1 more to go.I will be
appreciated should you give me some technical tips or exam advice about
support 2.0.

I use CIT 4.0 Syngress Media Book,if it enough for me to pass support 2.0
test.

Dean


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Re: Cisco 3920 in CCIE Lab?

[Nnanna Obuba]

Hi Frank,

We're 'rolling out' a full set of labs in January, there'll probably be 1 or
2 free ones, and you are right the price of lab rental is also set to
increase

cheers

Nnanna Obuba
www.nantech.com
Online lab for CCIE Preparation
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco 3920 in CCIE Lab?


> Hey Nnanna,
> Have you drawn up any labs for learning this stuff?  Might be good for a
> little more business if you do.  Charge an extra $20.00 and throw in a
> decent lab or two...just a thought!
>
>
> >From: Nnanna Obuba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Nnanna Obuba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Tim Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Cisco 3920 in CCIE Lab?
> >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:36:00 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >
> >All you need is a few hours of practise, and I daresay
> >you can find that at www.nantech.com :)
> >
> >Nnanna
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Tim Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Is a 3920 still used in the CCIE Lab? If so, is it
> > > used as a major configuration problem? I haven't
> > > used the 3920 and have been searching for one for my
> > > home lab but all that I find are too expensive. Am I
> > > missing much?
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> >
> >
> >=
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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Kevin_Cullimore]

i suppose that an underlying assumption of mine was that microsoft's market
is non-competitive AND cisco has a chance of breaking into the carrier
market BECAUSE both companies are leaders in terms of directional
flexibility. do you see it differently?


as for hsrp, even if it is functionally identical, their claim about
standards is STILL misleading (in a sense that has misdirected many, many
it budgets).

in some cases where they have an approach which predates a standard, they
will arrange for IOS to use either,

or, they will interoperate/exchange information with non-cisco
implementations

or, as in the case of hsrp, they don't provide support for vrrp

unfortunately, standards compliance seems to be an area where linguistic
precision is absolutely vital.








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Subject:  Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?


>Disclosure: i work with equipment manufactured by both nortel & cisco (or
>companies they assimilated) and make every effort to be equally unfair to
>both.
>
>thanks for the clarification about PIM, i was unaware of those
>circumstances. in the original list i forgot hsrp, which-i'm told-falls
>under the "no existing standard at the time it was introduced" category
(of
>course, it also falls under the "the eventual standard that emerged is
>different" category).

HSRP has significant ancestry in DEC's cluster protocols. The IETF's
VRRP protocol is functionally almost identical to HSRP.

>
>as best i can tell, one remaining point merits explicit clarification (no
>matter how against my nature that might be)
>
>you point out that we do not know enough about the future to adequately
>answer the original question, but that potentially obscures the fact that,
>like microsoft, cisco is a world-class leader in abrupt directional shifts
>(presumably, the only useful context for the abomination "internet time"),
>so insider knowledge about their long term direction at any given point in
>space & time might not be of much use 12 months hence. i also suspect that
>you are correct about them hedging their bets somewhat, so that it would
be
>incorrect to presume that they are focusing on one potential
implementation
>of a given technology to the exclusion of all others.

Intuitively, I think there are important differences, at least in
part, for the market of Microsoft and Cisco.  The argument is not as
strong in the enterprise networking as the carrier networking space.
In carrier networking, however, the "customers" themselves push the
technologies and may very well introduce approaches of their own.
Even more importantly, carriers have a century or so of using
standards-based approaches whenever possible.

It's informative to look at how well Juniper has competed with Cisco
in the carrier router space, in part because they don't have the
baggage of the legacy mechanisms IOS needs to support. Also, Nortel's
installed base in optical networking is far greater than Cisco's.

I suppose my point is that the carrier market is much more
competitive than the enterprise networking market, which in turn is
more competitive than the market that Microsoft inhabits.

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Cisco Users Group

[TSQR1951]

Does anyone know of a cisco users Group in the Washington DC Metro Area?

TIA,

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Re: Passed the CCIE Written

[Brian]

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Gordon Olson wrote:

> I want to say thank you, a BIG Thank You to Bernard who wrote the Boson
> tests for the CCIE. They are Super!! A few weeks ago I bought the MCNS Boson
> Exam and received an email from Bernard. After a few emails back n' forth he
> convinced me that I should go for the CCIE Written because he felt I was 85%
> there, being a CCNP. Well, I thought about it and went for it.

how did you like the MCNS boson test?  Was it helpful in passing the MCNS
test?  What other materials were used?

>
> Being a CCNP I have read a lot of books along the way that helped prepare
> me, but I did not know that, but Bernard did. I bought Both his tests for
> the CCIE and passed the written on the first attempt. The Exams are written
> with Cisco links that help you develop areas that may be unclear. The
> answers are backed up with Excellent explanations so you really understand
> the concept. If you are going after the CCIE - these tests, BOSON CCIE
> Pre-qual, are a MUST!
>
> I apologize if I sound like a commercial or something but I thought it would
> be a good idea to give these guys credit for writing an excellent test prep
> tool for under $30 - you cannot beat that!

congradulations.so does this mean you will prepare to attempt
the lab?

Brian


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Re: Fast Ethernet MTU Size

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

The Ethernet standards (Blue Book and IEEE 802.3) say that the maximum 
Ethernet frame size is 1518 bytes, counting the dest and src addresses, 
type/length field, and FCS. But, theoretically, there's no reason it 
couldn't be bigger, and some interfaces accept bigger frames. They have to 
for ISL, as you mentioned.

I asked Bob Metcalfe where 1518 bytes comes from. Seriously, I met him at a 
party many years ago and hit him with this question. His answer, "Hmm, well 
I really don't know!"

Some sort of maximum is necessary, of course, in order to assure fairness. 
The myths about the maximum having something to do with making CSMA/CD work 
correctly are inaccurate, (not that anyone said that in this thread). The 
myths are a mistake by analogy. The minimum size frame is necessary for 
CSMA/CD to work correctly.

Priscilla

At 09:22 AM 12/4/00, Tony van Ree wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I was under the impression that an ethernet frame had a maximum size of 
>1500 bytes.  This did not include the addresses or the FCS.  To increase 
>the MTU beyond that size would indeed create a giant on ethernet.  As it 
>is you will find some devices give an error message when including an ISL 
>header.  (A gig port on a 2984 is a good example)  In the case of the 2984 
>the data still goes through ok but when you get a packet over 1484 bytes 
>an whack it through the port the error rate rises.   Anything small is ok.
>
>It does seem to me that the basic ethernet standards define the max MTU 
>pretty well.
>
>I could however have mis understood all these years.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Teunis,
>Hobart, Tasmania
>Australia.
>
>On Saturday, December 02, 2000 at 12:25:13 AM, Kevin Wigle wrote:
>
> > there is a "mtu" command.
> >
> > In a somewhat similar situation - I had built a circuit using lan emulation
> > that terminated on a bvi on a 7505.
> >
> > The bvi had an ip address and placed into an OSPF area.
> >
> > I'm not aware of the defaults with a router that has both ATM and ethernet
> > but I didn't take notice of the mtu that the bvi had - I assumed that 
> it was
> > just like an ethernet interface
> >
> > On the distant end of the lan emulation was an ordinary router with an
> > ethernet interface and it was also configured into the OSPF area.
> >
> > However, OSPF didn't work.  debugging showed that an adjacency wasn't being
> > formed.
> >
> > Turning up yet more debugging - finally an error about "mtu size not equal"
> > was noticed.
> >
> > sure enough, the bvi had the ATM mtu of 4470..
> >
> > using the mtu command on the bvi interface "mtu 1500", the adjacency formed
> > immediately and all was well.
> >
> > so, my guess would be that a fast ethernet probably has the same "mtu"
> > command, try it out.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Darren Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 22:02
> > Subject: Fast Ethernet MTU Size
> >
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Is it at all possible to raise the MTU size on Fast Ethernet?
> > >
> > > I'll give you all a scenario
> > >
> > > ATM on one side with an MTU of 4470, fast ethernet connecting the two
> > > routers, Gigabit Ethernet the other side with an MTU of 4470.
> > >
> > > How can I raise the MTU of a Full Duplex Fast Ethernet Connection above
> > > 1500?
> > >
> > > I assume it's not possible when going through switched as they will show
> > > every packet as a giant but in a router to router cross-over connection
> > > I was hoping there was some way to keep the MTU static across the path
> > > rather than force the routers to fragment and re-assemble (of course the
> > > destination re-assembles).
> > >
> > > Darren Ward
> > > CCNP, CCDP, CCIE Wannabee




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RE: Speed Tip

[Urooj's Hi-speed Internet]

Because all routers are connected to the Communication Server through their
console port, and by default, logging to console is on. So, for instance,
when one configures the frame-relay pvc's on the router interfaces, all dlci
state changes show on the command line while one may be in the process of
typing-in commands. Similarly, any interface state changes are reflected on
the command line. This may cause some distractions and may prevent one from
gaining some vital time advantage. It was for this reason that I had
recommended that the command "no logging console" should be typed in
initially to avoid any unnecessary distractions when setting up various
tasks. However, it may make more sense to return to the default status (i.e
logging console), if one is lucky enough to sail through to the
troubleshooting part.

Aziz

-Original Message-
From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 4:46 PM
To: Urooj's Hi-speed Internet
Subject: RE: Speed Tip



Why is that?

Thanks,
Andy

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Urooj's Hi-speed Internet wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> For the sake of completeness, please take the following command into
account
> also:
>
> no logging console
>
> Since during configuration of Layer 2/Layer 3 protocols, the absence of
the
> above command can slow one down considerably.
>
> Just my 0.02 cents (Canadian) worth.
>
> Aziz
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> James Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 11:27 PM
> To: Chuck Larrieu
> Cc: Tony Olzak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Speed Tip
>
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> Whilst you are permitted to use Notepad or any other program present on
> your Testing PC, the rules of the CCIE Lab state without that at _no time_
> can you save a file to the hard disk.
>
> If during the marking breaks the CCIE proctor finds that you have saved a
> file to the hard drive anywhere he will fail you immediately.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On  0, Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rules of the game: I trust you mean that you must remember to delete the
> > file from the PC you are using prior to leaving. I.e. you can't leave it
> for
> > the next person to find. Correct?
> >
> > I have received tips such as Tony's from other sources. If you check my
> > feeble web site www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt you will see that one of
those
> > from whom I have gathered advice has offered something similar. I have
> also
> > received this advice verbally from a couple of folks as well.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > James Wilson
> > Sent:   Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> > To: Tony Olzak
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Re: Speed Tip
> >
> > Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this
file
> > somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> > rules.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the
> > lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
> > >
> > > en
> > > config t
> > > ip classless
> > > ip subnet-zero
> > > no ip domain-lookup
> > > alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> > > alias exec ci clear ip route *
> > > alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> > > alias exec i show ip route
> > > alias exec ix show ipx route
> > > alias exec si show ip interface brief
> > > alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> > > enable secret cisco
> > >
> > > line con 0
> > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > password cisco
> > >
> > > line aux 0
> > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > password cisco
> > >
> > > line vty 0 4
> > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > password cisco
> > >
> > > Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> > >
> > > Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the
> terminal
> > program.
> > >
> > > I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at
> > every router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
>
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Re: CCNA 2.0 Passed !!!

[michael]

There is no CCNA candidate here,please post the message to the
Associate List.






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Off Topic - Household Configuration Problem

[Chuck Larrieu]

Gang, please forgive me for bringing this to the list. But I am having a
major problem with my household configuration, and I am hoping that you good
people can show me where my mistakes are.

Following is the configuration in question:

Process Home
Wife 1  (she is, after all, number one in my book :->)
Household-budget = ( dollar amount of budget )
Exceed-budget no
Laundry-process regular
Housework-process daily
Dinner-process on-time
Coffee-process hot
Toast-preparation light-with-jam
Refrigerator-status filled-with-food
Pleasurable-activities nightly
Nag off

Since I started this process 15 years ago, it has never seemed to operate
according to this configuration. In fact, it seems that almost every result
is exactly the opposite to what the command states. I'm wondering if someone
has a link someplace to the documentation, so I can correct this
configuration and get my wife-process to operate according to my design. ;->

Chuck
--
Q. How many Democrats survived the Titanic?
A. None. They couldn't follow the arrows to the lifeboats.

Q. How many Floridians does it take to replace a light bulb?
A. They're still counting.



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Policy routing question

[vtam]

I don't really know how the policy routing run.
This is my quetion: i want to apply policy routing according to the source,
but when the set next-hop is not accessible, it should be route as normal
routing process( route according to dest. ip address).

This is the config i do.

int ser 1/0
ip policy route-map test

access-list 1 permit 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 2 permit 172.16.112.0 0.255.255.255

route-map test permit 10
match ip address 1
set ip next-hop 172.1.1.1

route-map test permit 20
match ip address 2
set ip next-hop 172.1.1.3



I want to ask some question:
1. If 172.1.1.1 is down, can the traffice sourced by 172.16.0.0 will be
routed, or it would be drop?
2. Where should be the other traffic route? Is it routed or drop?
3. If question 1 is drop, how should i do to route that traffic?

Thanks.


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RE: Off Topic - Household Configuration Problem

[Jason Baker]

Maybe instead of a deny all statement you need a permit any any :) any 
maybe a few other wildcards :)

Regards,

Jason Baker
Network Engineer
MCSE, CCNA




-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:54 PM
To: Cisco Mail List
Subject: Off Topic - Household Configuration Problem


Gang, please forgive me for bringing this to the list. But I am having a
major problem with my household configuration, and I am hoping that you good
people can show me where my mistakes are.

Following is the configuration in question:

Process Home
Wife 1  (she is, after all, number one in my book :->)
Household-budget = ( dollar amount of budget )
Exceed-budget no
Laundry-process regular
Housework-process daily
Dinner-process on-time
Coffee-process hot
Toast-preparation light-with-jam
Refrigerator-status filled-with-food
Pleasurable-activities nightly
Nag off

Since I started this process 15 years ago, it has never seemed to operate
according to this configuration. In fact, it seems that almost every result
is exactly the opposite to what the command states. I'm wondering if someone
has a link someplace to the documentation, so I can correct this
configuration and get my wife-process to operate according to my design. ;->

Chuck
--
Q. How many Democrats survived the Titanic?
A. None. They couldn't follow the arrows to the lifeboats.

Q. How many Floridians does it take to replace a light bulb?
A. They're still counting.



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MCNS courseware sought

[Brian]

If anyone has the Official (original copy) of the MCNS courseware, and
they would like to sell it, please let me know.  The MCNS test is suppose
to change real soon, which is going to lower the value of the courseware
considerably (once they expire the old test), so now is a good time to
sell!

Brian


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CCNA Study Group in Philly

[lhuynh3]

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know where I can join for CCNA study groups in the Philadelphia
locations?

TIA,

Lan

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Re: Good reference book for Support/CIT

[Jim Erickson]

Herein lies *almost* the entire CIT course:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/index.htm

---JRE---

"Joseph Ezerski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I am nearly complete in my quest for CCNP.  I only have the CIT/Support
exam
> to take.  To date, most of my studying has come from Exam Cram and Boson
> tests.  I realize that those books serve only to help with quick
> memorization and test cramming.  I have also purchased and am reading
other
> publications, like Jeff Doyle's book and Halabi's book.  I am looking for
a
> good reference book for CIT and Troubleshooting, the type of book I can
> actually use in the real world as I get my hands on more and more
equipment
> (I work for an ISP).  I am eventually moving on to CCIE written and I have
> been buying books in the Cisco Press CCIE series (i.e. Doyle, etc).  What
> would this fine group recommend as the best source for Troubleshooting
that
> would not only help me with CCIE written, but with real world problems...
>
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Official Cisco Courseware

[Brian]

Has anyone ever taken a Cisco course, and they give you a 3 ring binder
(not a spiral) with hole punched pages that go into it.  And the pages are
NOT color, but just like black and white/xerox?  Or are the pages in the 3
ring binders suppose to be color?

Brian


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RE: Speed Tip

[Roman McDonald]

Even better yet -
line con 0
logging synchronous

Roman

At 08:29 PM 12/3/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Because all routers are connected to the Communication Server through their
>console port, and by default, logging to console is on. So, for instance,
>when one configures the frame-relay pvc's on the router interfaces, all dlci
>state changes show on the command line while one may be in the process of
>typing-in commands. Similarly, any interface state changes are reflected on
>the command line. This may cause some distractions and may prevent one from
>gaining some vital time advantage. It was for this reason that I had
>recommended that the command "no logging console" should be typed in
>initially to avoid any unnecessary distractions when setting up various
>tasks. However, it may make more sense to return to the default status (i.e
>logging console), if one is lucky enough to sail through to the
>troubleshooting part.
>
>Aziz
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 4:46 PM
>To: Urooj's Hi-speed Internet
>Subject: RE: Speed Tip
>
>
>
>Why is that?
>
>Thanks,
>Andy
>
>On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Urooj's Hi-speed Internet wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> > For the sake of completeness, please take the following command into
>account
> > also:
> >
> > no logging console
> >
> > Since during configuration of Layer 2/Layer 3 protocols, the absence of
>the
> > above command can slow one down considerably.
> >
> > Just my 0.02 cents (Canadian) worth.
> >
> > Aziz
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > James Wilson
> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 11:27 PM
> > To: Chuck Larrieu
> > Cc: Tony Olzak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Speed Tip
> >
> >
> > Hi Chuck,
> >
> > Whilst you are permitted to use Notepad or any other program present on
> > your Testing PC, the rules of the CCIE Lab state without that at _no time_
> > can you save a file to the hard disk.
> >
> > If during the marking breaks the CCIE proctor finds that you have saved a
> > file to the hard drive anywhere he will fail you immediately.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > On  0, Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Rules of the game: I trust you mean that you must remember to delete the
> > > file from the PC you are using prior to leaving. I.e. you can't leave it
> > for
> > > the next person to find. Correct?
> > >
> > > I have received tips such as Tony's from other sources. If you check my
> > > feeble web site www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt you will see that one of
>those
> > > from whom I have gathered advice has offered something similar. I have
> > also
> > > received this advice verbally from a couple of folks as well.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
> Behalf Of
> > > James Wilson
> > > Sent:   Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> > > To: Tony Olzak
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:Re: Speed Tip
> > >
> > > Good tip... but be very very careful -- If you accidently saved this
>file
> > > somewhere you would be disqualified immediately as part of the CCIE lab
> > > rules.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > On  0, Tony Olzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hard to believe, but most people don't know you can use notepad in the
> > > lab. Here's how I do a base config on all my routers:
> > > >
> > > > en
> > > > config t
> > > > ip classless
> > > > ip subnet-zero
> > > > no ip domain-lookup
> > > > alias exec cb clear ip bgp *
> > > > alias exec ci clear ip route *
> > > > alias exec cx clear ipx route *
> > > > alias exec i show ip route
> > > > alias exec ix show ipx route
> > > > alias exec si show ip interface brief
> > > > alias exec sx show ipx interface brief
> > > > enable secret cisco
> > > >
> > > > line con 0
> > > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > > password cisco
> > > >
> > > > line aux 0
> > > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > > password cisco
> > > >
> > > > line vty 0 4
> > > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > > password cisco
> > > >
> > > > Then at the end just type "hostname " and you are done.
> > > >
> > > > Put all this in notepad, copy it, then paste to host while in the
> > terminal
> > > program.
> > > >
> > > > I couldn't believe how many people tell me they type all this junk at
> > > every router. This will save you probably 20 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >
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> > >  Customer Service Engineer, I
> > >  Global On Site Services||||
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I need Bcran exam advise from you, sir.

[william]

Hi guys

I'm taking Bcran exam on coming wednesday.  Can you all guys advise me on
this?

Thanks.


William


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VLSM

[Ravi Kumar]

hi friends

Could anybody give explanation for the followibg terms.

1) classful addressing
2) classless addressing
3) VLSM.

I did go through routing 2.0 book.
but i could not understand the concept.

thanks in advance.

bye
ravee




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RE: Frame Relay - Real Life Problem

[jenny . mcleod]

This thread's a bit old now, but I sent this on Friday and it never seemed
to appear, so I'll have (yet) another go (I'm feeling stubborn again).
It's one of those days... let's see what happens if I snip it a bit...
I'd be interested to know the eventual resolution of the problem, too.

It's deleted on S0, but it's INACTIVE on S1.  Have you configured the
correct interface?
debug frame-relay lmi could be a useful command here.  About every minute
on each interface (might vary between switches) the switch should send a
status list of all the PVCs it knows about.  The status (going from memory
here, I might have this backwards) is 0x2 for active, 0x0 for inactive.  If
the switch doesn't know about it, there won't be an entry at all.

I reckon you've configured DLCI 16 on S0.16 (thus usage=local), but the
telco has it on S1.  Thus it appears again on S1, with usage=unused, i.e.
you haven't configured it on that interface, and status= inactive, i.e. the
switch knows about it but it isn't active, because the router doesn't know
about it on that interface.  Did you mean to configure S1.16?  Or is DLCI
16 on S1 something different and supposed to be down?

Another cause of the problem could be that S0 is up/down, and shows lots of
lmi sent, but no lmi received.  It's not talking to a frame relay switch at
all, and hasn't at least since the router was last rebooted.  No PVCs are
going to work over that interface in that state.  If that interface is
supposed to connect to one of your ISPs, talk to your telco...

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 01/12/2000
08:37 am ---


"Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 30/11/2000 06:30:54
pm

Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



To:   "Adele Galus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:


Subject:  RE: Frame Relay - Real Life Problem


Adele, it looks to me like DLCI 16 is either incorrectly configured on the
carrier side, or there is a problem on the carrier side. Way down on my
list
is something like the CSU is bad or incorrectly configured, or a wiring
problem.

The "deleted" indicates to me that at one time the router saw the DLCI info
come in via LMI, and it is no longer seeing that.

HTH

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Adele Galus
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:15 PM
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Frame Relay - Real Life Problem
Importance:High

This is a configuration problem.

Situation:  I have two ISP's involved.  The router is a 2500 series.
Internal CSU/DSU.
On DLCI 17 ISP traffic routes.  The other DLCI 16 doesn't.  Information
is correct -
I must be missing something.





Cormick#show frame-relay map
Serial0.16 (down): point-to-point dlci, dlci 16(0x10,0x400), broadcast
  status deleted
Serial1.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast,
IETF
  status defined, active





Cormick#show frame-relay pvc

PVC Statistics for interface Serial0 (Frame Relay DTE)

DLCI = 16, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = DELETED, INTERFACE =
Serial0.16

  input pkts 0 output pkts 4in bytes 0
  out bytes 1794   dropped pkts 0   in FECN pkts 0
  in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
  in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
  out bcast pkts 4  out bcast bytes 1794
  pvc create time 9w3d, last time pvc status changed 7w4d

PVC Statistics for interface Serial1 (Frame Relay DTE)

DLCI = 16, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial1

  input pkts 0 output pkts 0in bytes 0
  out bytes 0  dropped pkts 0   in FECN pkts 0
  in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
  in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
  out bcast pkts 0  out bcast bytes 0Num Pkts
Switched 0
  pvc create time 9w3d, last time pvc status changed 7w4d

DLCI = 17, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial1.1

  input pkts 73176244  output pkts 63755322 in bytes 2986909822
  out bytes 4214766293 dropped pkts 239 in FECN pkts 273970
  in BECN pkts 254655  out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
  in DE pkts 940978out DE pkts 0
  out bcast pkts 96267  out bcast bytes 27724896
  pvc create time 9w3d, last time pvc status changed 7w4d





Cormick#show interfaces

Serial0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is HD64570 with FT1 CSU/DSU
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255

  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive set (10
sec)
  LMI e

Sybex "Support" Book

[PYF]

Does anyone read the Sybex CCNP Support book? Is it useful/enough for the
CIT exam?


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Re: Off Topic - Household Configuration Problem

[NeoLink2000]

In a message dated 12/3/00 10:40:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Gang, please forgive me for bringing this to the list. But I am having a
major problem with my household configuration, and I am hoping that you good
people can show me where my mistakes are.

Following is the configuration in question:

Process Home
Wife 1  (she is, after all, number one in my book :->)
Household-budget = ( dollar amount of budget )
Exceed-budget no
Laundry-process regular
Housework-process daily
Dinner-process on-time
Coffee-process hot
Toast-preparation light-with-jam
Refrigerator-status filled-with-food
Pleasurable-activities nightly
Nag off

Since I started this process 15 years ago, it has never seemed to operate
according to this configuration. In fact, it seems that almost every result
is exactly the opposite to what the command states. I'm wondering if someone
has a link someplace to the documentation, so I can correct this
configuration and get my wife-process to operate according to my design. ;->

Chuck


Chuck, it looks like you may have forgotten a key command. The "Process," by default, seems to be running the exact opposite than how you specify (like in your case) when you leave this command out. It's a common mistake that people don't know about due to it being a secret command and is easily overlooked due to it not being documented on Household's site. You have to go back into the Pleasurable-activities configuration mode and configure a sub-life...here's an example:

Household#conf t
Household(config)#Pleasurable-activities
Household(Pleasurable-act)#Sub-life mistress

After this you could do a show running house to see your output so you can see the change:

Process Home
Wife 1  (she is, after all, number one in my book :->)
Household-budget = ( dollar amount of budget )
Exceed-budget no
Laundry-process regular
Housework-process daily
Dinner-process on-time
Coffee-process hot
Toast-preparation light-with-jam
Refrigerator-status filled-with-food
Pleasurable-activities nightly
  Sub-life mistress <<

Re: config-register 0x0000 on 2500

[Paul Lalonde]

If your config register is 0x0, you won't even be able to boot into a usable
IOS to change it... so don't bother trying "config term" !!!

Instead, at the > prompt, type:  o/r 0x2102
and then: > i

to re-initialize the router. Done!

Paul

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>I just got into one of my 2500's and found the subject line config very
>primitive and I'm wondering how the hell do I change it back to 0x2102???
>
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Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?

[Nigel Taylor]

Howard,
Just a thought...  I found your new book (WAN Survival
Guide) on various book sites but it was no
where to be found on CZ.  Any idea as to when it will be at the Shopping
Zone?

Nigel.

- Original Message -
From: Howard C. Berkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: anyone has had any contacts with cisco R&D people?


> >At 12:10 PM 12/3/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> >
> >>When we are talking about futures, the reality is that we truly
> >>don't know. To say that carrier-scale backbones will be ATM
> >>(probably not), POS, IP over raw DWDM, MPLS over raw DWDM, etc., is
> >>not yet a given.
> >
> >Thanks for turning this into a logical, well-written discussion
> >instead of a harangue, Howard.
> >
> >Probably not ATM for carrier-scale backbones? Is it because MPLS is
> >looking like a better model? I realize I'm asking you to look into
> >your crystal ball, and that's always hard, but I'm interested in the
> >technical reasons off the cuff. (I know it could require a whole
> >book to give a true answer! &;-)
>
> Well, I just wrote one, although I don't think there is a firm
> consensus as yet on what will win. Shameless plug:  _WAN Survival
> Guide_, ISBN 0-471-3428-3 (Wiley). Published just in time for the
> Christmas rush. :-)
>
> But yes, I believe MPLS is a superior model to ATM. Lots of people
> call it "ATM without cells," removing the problem of the cell tax.
>
> MPLS does not replace IP, but is an "overdrive" for IP. The biggest
> confusion about MPLS, which I found in a number of Cisco
> presentations, is that MPLS is far more than the label-switched paths
> themselves.  These paths need to be set up by routing mechanisms.
>
> When I say routing mechanism, I include both dynamic IP routing
> protocols and extensions for traffic engineering. RSVP-TE, LDP, and
> CR-LDP don't replace routing, but distribute label switching
> information that is based on routing (including traffic engineering
> overrides to routing).
>
> Many of the "optical routing" discussions really aren't talking about
> something radically different, but, for example, identifying a path
> by lambda rather than explicit label.
>
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >>We face challenges such as "is it better to have single 40 Gbps
> >>OC-768 streams or multiple OC-192 over DWDM?"  There are many
> >>routing versus switching arguments, and MPLS is a mixture of the
> >>two (even though there's intense religion about LDP, RSVP-TE, and
> >>CR-LDP).   We don't know the situations in which photonic switching
> >>of lambdas is enough, versus photonic routing of individual
> >>packets. Lots of things we don't know.
> >>
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I need Boson Cisco Test Pack v3.22 demo for download !

[Romeo]

Hi there!

Please, from where can I download Boson Cisco Test Pack v3.22 demo? It
missing on Boson site.

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No Subject

[brian burke]

Mike,
 
I recently had this same issue come up.  
Luckily, I had a friend who seems to know everything about everything that 
showed me the best way to understand it.  I caught on in about 10 
minutes.  Let me illustrate it below.
 
1. Ethernet and Token Ring both read bytes from 
left to right.
2. The difference is that they read the bits within 
those bytes the exact  
    opposite. Ethernet starts with 
bit 0 on the far right side of
    the byte (least significant bit; 
canonical) and reads to the left. Token Ring
    does the exact opposite and 
reads the bits from left to
right (most significant; 
non-canonical).
 
Because of this the hardware must be able to make 
the translation between the two. We start with 
the numbers 0-9 and A-F for Hex. This is the way that MAC addresses are 
expressed by both protocols just backwards (sorta..)  Since we're 
really translating binary here we see that each character in the MAC 
address is represented by four bits (). Remember that we are going by 
decimal 2s so the 4 bits would be (8421) represented in 1s and 
0s. By taking the two outside bits and 
trading their places and then taking the inside bits and doing the same thing we 
make the conversion. Look below:
   
0 = 0 

1 = 8 
0001    1000
2 
= 4 00100100
3 = C 
0011    1100
4 = 2 
0100    0010
5 = A 
0101        1010
6 = 6 
0110        0110
7 = E 
0111        1110
8 = 1 
1000        0001
9 = 9 
1001        1001
A = 5 
1010        0101
B = D    1011    
    1101
C = 3 
1100        0011
D = B 
1101        1011
E = 7 
1110        0111
F = F 
        
 
There is one more thing to remember.  The MAC 
that is being converted must be broken down into what is called niblets.  
That is, in segments of two.  For example, take the MAC address 
00.10.a4.a9.01.3e. Notice that the dots show what I mean by segmenting it 
up.  Here comes the easy part.  For each niblet switch the two 
character's places. Then do the conversion from the chart above.  Look 
below:
 
00.10.a4.a9.01.3e   Ethernet
 
00.01.4a.9a.10.e3
 
00.08.25.95.80.7c   Token
 
I hope that this is helps and didn't confuse 
you.  If you have any questions about it please send me a 
message.
 
Brgds,
Brian Burke

Re: Official Cisco Courseware

[Phillip Heller]

All my binders from official cisco classes contain black and white xerox
pages, but the binder cover insert and spine insert are color.  As each of
the courses I took were presented by different companies, I would assume
that this is correct.

Regards,

--phil

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Brian wrote:

Has anyone ever taken a Cisco course, and they give you a 3 ring binder
(not a spiral) with hole punched pages that go into it.  And the pages are
NOT color, but just like black and white/xerox?  Or are the pages in the 3
ring binders suppose to be color?


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off-topic question about sun solaris

[Zhang Jin]

Dear group member,

who can tell me the newsgroup for Solaris just like this one?

TIA

Dean


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Bit Swapping

[brian burke]

 
- Original Message - 
From: brian 
burke 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:07 AM

Mike,
 
I recently had this same issue come up.  
Luckily, I had a friend who seems to know everything about everything that 
showed me the best way to understand it.  I caught on in about 10 
minutes.  Let me illustrate it below.
 
1. Ethernet and Token Ring both read bytes from 
left to right.
2. The difference is that they read the bits within 
those bytes the exact  
    opposite. Ethernet starts with 
bit 0 on the far right side of
    the byte (least significant bit; 
canonical) and reads to the left. Token Ring
    does the exact opposite and 
reads the bits from left to
right (most significant; 
non-canonical).
 
Because of this the hardware must be able to make 
the translation between the two. We start with 
the numbers 0-9 and A-F for Hex. This is the way that MAC addresses are 
expressed by both protocols just backwards (sorta..)  Since we're 
really translating binary here we see that each character in the MAC 
address is represented by four bits (). Remember that we are going by 
decimal 2s so the 4 bits would be (8421) represented in 1s and 
0s. By taking the two outside bits and 
trading their places and then taking the inside bits and doing the same thing we 
make the conversion. Look below:
   
0 = 0 

1 = 8 
0001    1000
2 
= 4 00100100
3 = C 
0011    1100
4 = 2 
0100    0010
5 = A 
0101        1010
6 = 6 
0110        0110
7 = E 
0111        1110
8 = 1 
1000        0001
9 = 9 
1001        1001
A = 5 
1010        0101
B = D    1011    
    1101
C = 3 
1100        0011
D = B 
1101        1011
E = 7 
1110        0111
F = F 
        
 
There is one more thing to remember.  The MAC 
that is being converted must be broken down into what is called niblets.  
That is, in segments of two.  For example, take the MAC address 
00.10.a4.a9.01.3e. Notice that the dots show what I mean by segmenting it 
up.  Here comes the easy part.  For each niblet switch the two 
character's places. Then do the conversion from the chart above.  Look 
below:
 
00.10.a4.a9.01.3e   Ethernet
 
00.01.4a.9a.10.e3
 
00.08.25.95.80.7c   Token
 
I hope that this is helps and didn't confuse 
you.  If you have any questions about it please send me a 
message.
 
Brgds,
Brian Burke

RE: Off Topic - Household Configuration Problem

[Tony van Ree]

Maybe a cross cable could or just generally being cross could do the job.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

>From a country where we worry about our politics or is it Polyticks.  

Poly being Latin for many and Ticks being blood sucking parasites.

.On Monday, December 04, 2000 at 02:05:48 PM, Jason Baker wrote:

> Maybe instead of a deny all statement you need a permit any any :) any 
> maybe a few other wildcards :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jason Baker
> Network Engineer
> MCSE, CCNA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:54 PM
> To: Cisco Mail List
> Subject: Off Topic - Household Configuration Problem
> 
> 
> Gang, please forgive me for bringing this to the list. But I am having a
> major problem with my household configuration, and I am hoping that you good
> people can show me where my mistakes are.
> 
> Following is the configuration in question:
> 
> Process Home
> Wife 1  (she is, after all, number one in my book :->)
> Household-budget = ( dollar amount of budget )
> Exceed-budget no
> Laundry-process regular
> Housework-process daily
> Dinner-process on-time
> Coffee-process hot
> Toast-preparation light-with-jam
> Refrigerator-status filled-with-food
> Pleasurable-activities nightly
> Nag off
> 
> Since I started this process 15 years ago, it has never seemed to operate
> according to this configuration. In fact, it seems that almost every result
> is exactly the opposite to what the command states. I'm wondering if someone
> has a link someplace to the documentation, so I can correct this
> configuration and get my wife-process to operate according to my design. ;->
> 
> Chuck
> --
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> A. None. They couldn't follow the arrows to the lifeboats.
> 
> Q. How many Floridians does it take to replace a light bulb?
> A. They're still counting.
> 
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Re: Fast Ethernet MTU Size

[Tony van Ree]

I made an half asleep typo.  Anything small was not quite what I meant.

Teunis.

On Sunday, December 03, 2000 at 05:31:49 PM, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> The Ethernet standards (Blue Book and IEEE 802.3) say that the maximum 
> Ethernet frame size is 1518 bytes, counting the dest and src addresses, 
> type/length field, and FCS. But, theoretically, there's no reason it 
> couldn't be bigger, and some interfaces accept bigger frames. They have to 
> for ISL, as you mentioned.
> 
> I asked Bob Metcalfe where 1518 bytes comes from. Seriously, I met him at a 
> party many years ago and hit him with this question. His answer, "Hmm, well 
> I really don't know!"
> 
> Some sort of maximum is necessary, of course, in order to assure fairness. 
> The myths about the maximum having something to do with making CSMA/CD work 
> correctly are inaccurate, (not that anyone said that in this thread). The 
> myths are a mistake by analogy. The minimum size frame is necessary for 
> CSMA/CD to work correctly.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 09:22 AM 12/4/00, Tony van Ree wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I was under the impression that an ethernet frame had a maximum size of 
> >1500 bytes.  This did not include the addresses or the FCS.  To increase 
> >the MTU beyond that size would indeed create a giant on ethernet.  As it 
> >is you will find some devices give an error message when including an ISL 
> >header.  (A gig port on a 2984 is a good example)  In the case of the 2984 
> >the data still goes through ok but when you get a packet over 1484 bytes 
> >an whack it through the port the error rate rises.   Anything small is ok.
> >
> >It does seem to me that the basic ethernet standards define the max MTU 
> >pretty well.
> >
> >I could however have mis understood all these years.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Teunis,
> >Hobart, Tasmania
> >Australia.
> >
> >On Saturday, December 02, 2000 at 12:25:13 AM, Kevin Wigle wrote:
> >
> > > there is a "mtu" command.
> > >
> > > In a somewhat similar situation - I had built a circuit using lan emulation
> > > that terminated on a bvi on a 7505.
> > >
> > > The bvi had an ip address and placed into an OSPF area.
> > >
> > > I'm not aware of the defaults with a router that has both ATM and ethernet
> > > but I didn't take notice of the mtu that the bvi had - I assumed that 
> > it was
> > > just like an ethernet interface
> > >
> > > On the distant end of the lan emulation was an ordinary router with an
> > > ethernet interface and it was also configured into the OSPF area.
> > >
> > > However, OSPF didn't work.  debugging showed that an adjacency wasn't being
> > > formed.
> > >
> > > Turning up yet more debugging - finally an error about "mtu size not equal"
> > > was noticed.
> > >
> > > sure enough, the bvi had the ATM mtu of 4470..
> > >
> > > using the mtu command on the bvi interface "mtu 1500", the adjacency formed
> > > immediately and all was well.
> > >
> > > so, my guess would be that a fast ethernet probably has the same "mtu"
> > > command, try it out.
> > >
> > > Kevin Wigle
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Darren Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 22:02
> > > Subject: Fast Ethernet MTU Size
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Is it at all possible to raise the MTU size on Fast Ethernet?
> > > >
> > > > I'll give you all a scenario
> > > >
> > > > ATM on one side with an MTU of 4470, fast ethernet connecting the two
> > > > routers, Gigabit Ethernet the other side with an MTU of 4470.
> > > >
> > > > How can I raise the MTU of a Full Duplex Fast Ethernet Connection above
> > > > 1500?
> > > >
> > > > I assume it's not possible when going through switched as they will show
> > > > every packet as a giant but in a router to router cross-over connection
> > > > I was hoping there was some way to keep the MTU static across the path
> > > > rather than force the routers to fragment and re-assemble (of course the
> > > > destination re-assembles).
> > > >
> > > > Darren Ward
> > > > CCNP, CCDP, CCIE Wannabee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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RE: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list

[SAM Meng Wai]

Do anyboody have any information of taking CCIE Lab Test. How can
i prepare for this exam ?

Rgds,
Sam

> -Original Message-
> From: ElephantChild [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:45 AM
> To:   Brian
> Cc:   Paul Borghese; Nigel Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: CCIE LAB Groupstudy list
> 
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Paul Borghese wrote:
> > 
> > > For the last two weeks I have been fighting them to get
> > > more bandwidth.  The end result is going to be we need to move the
> server to
> > > a new location.  Any ideas?
> > 
> > You could put it at ShreveNet :)  We have transit to Sprint, Qwest,
> Global
> > Crossing, UUNet and Cable and Wireless.
> > 
> > I would offer you free colo at shreve.net, we have plenty of
> > bandwidth.
> 
> Or you could ask cdrom.com (aka Walnut Creek). IIRC their own traffic, I
> doubt that they would notice a 5GB/day increase. :-) (Sorry, I don't
> have any contact there.)
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Re:speed tip (the best one)

[NeoLink2000]

Hey Group,
 You all left out the best one. Place it at the end of the list and just copy and paste. This one saves a hell of alot of time,   ;)

erase runn conf
erase star

haha, just kidding...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/2-NP
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   ~Mark Zabludovsky~

Re: Official Cisco Courseware

[Brian]

Ok.I have the CATM courseware, and its in a cisco binder, I bought
it on ebay.  Some of the diagrams talk like their should be color (red,
blue) but its greyscale since its a xerox.but I guess thats
just how they did them..

Brian


On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Phillip Heller wrote:

> All my binders from official cisco classes contain black and white xerox
> pages, but the binder cover insert and spine insert are color.  As each of
> the courses I took were presented by different companies, I would assume
> that this is correct.
>
> Regards,
>
> --phil
>
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Brian wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever taken a Cisco course, and they give you a 3 ring binder
> (not a spiral) with hole punched pages that go into it.  And the pages are
> NOT color, but just like black and white/xerox?  Or are the pages in the 3
> ring binders suppose to be color?
>
>

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Re: Policy routing question

[Brian]

vtam,

You must specify multiple hops on the "set ip next-hop" line.like:

 route-map test permit 10
 match ip address 1
 set ip next-hop 172.1.1.1 172.1.1.2

if 172.1.1.1 is down, it will use 172.1.1.2

Brian



On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, vtam wrote:

> I don't really know how the policy routing run.
> This is my quetion: i want to apply policy routing according to the source,
> but when the set next-hop is not accessible, it should be route as normal
> routing process( route according to dest. ip address).
>
> This is the config i do.
>
> int ser 1/0
> ip policy route-map test
>
> access-list 1 permit 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255
> access-list 2 permit 172.16.112.0 0.255.255.255
>
> route-map test permit 10
> match ip address 1
> set ip next-hop 172.1.1.1
>
> route-map test permit 20
> match ip address 2
> set ip next-hop 172.1.1.3
>
>
>
> I want to ask some question:
> 1. If 172.1.1.1 is down, can the traffice sourced by 172.16.0.0 will be
> routed, or it would be drop?
> 2. Where should be the other traffic route? Is it routed or drop?
> 3. If question 1 is drop, how should i do to route that traffic?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: I need Boson Cisco Test Pack v3.22 demo for download !

[Inamul]

www.boson.com

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> Please, from where can I download Boson Cisco Test Pack v3.22 demo? It
> missing on Boson site.
>
> TIA
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Re: Official Cisco Courseware

[Inamul]

Just for curiousity, How are cisco courses ? Are
they focused on exams more than concepts etc..

Thanks

Inamul


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> Has anyone ever taken a Cisco course, and they give you a 3 ring binder
> (not a spiral) with hole punched pages that go into it.  And the pages are
> NOT color, but just like black and white/xerox?  Or are the pages in the 3
> ring binders suppose to be color?
>
> Brian
>
>
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