Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640]
The equation to calculate the line no. is for cisco 3600 series. Interface unmuber = ( 32 x slot no.) + unit no. + 1 but for cisco 2600, the infromation that can be true is last tty + 1 rgds; Vincent Sean Young The max. number of Async-line you can have on the NM for either 2600s or 3600s is thirty-two (32). I couldn't find any NM that has 64 async-line for either 2600s or 3600s routers. Therefore, the number 65 for AUX is still a mystery to me. Sean From: Neil Schneider Reply-To: Neil Schneider To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:16:49 -0400 The 2600 series only has one NM slot, but you can buy NM modules with different numbers of ports on them. -- Neil Schneider MCT MCSE CCSI CCNP Sean Young wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... CM, I don't know where you buy the Cisco 2600s router but from what I can see in front of me, I have a Cisco 2610, Cisco 2611 and another 2621, all of them only have 1 Network Module (NM) slot. If you are referring to Cisco 3620 then I might agree with you that Cisco 3620 has 2 NM slots. Please don't give out wrong information unless you know it is accurate. Anyone else would like to comment on this one. Am I correct in this case? Regards, Sean From: Charles Manafa To: 'Sean Young ' , '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:27:29 +0100 Cisco 2600 is a modular router like the 3600, and is capable of supporting two modules. Whether or not these slots are populated, it doesn't change the tty numbering, i.e slot 0: 0-31, slot 1: 32-64 etc. As the AUX port is the last tty + 1, the AUX port is 65 on a 2600. CM -Original Message- From: Sean Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31/05/01 19:19 Subject: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] I am hoping someone on the group can explain to me the following situation: I've noticed that on the Cisco 2500s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 1 (sine consoleport is on line 0). However, on Cisco 2600s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 65(console port is still at line 0). On the cisco 3640 router, if I put my FE module in slot 0, thenthe AUX port is listed on line 129. If I put my FE module in slot 3, then the AUX port is listed on line 97. I understand why that is the case on Cisco 2500s and 3600s platform, but apparently, the 2600s platform is really out of wack. Why doesn't Cisco make themconsistent on all platforms? I work for an ISP shop and it is hard for me to new network engineering folks about this especially when it involves async-lines, AS5300, Radius andTACACS (you get the point). I guess when Cisco controls about 90% market share of the router market, it really doesn't give a f___ about these things. No wonder why Juniper andAvici are kicking Cisco's ass in the carrier market because it makes the product moreuser-friendly (until it becomes just as big as Cisco then those guys will start acting arrogant). An explaination from anyone in this group is very appreciate. Sean Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6723t=6640 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Group Limited Tel : +27 11 800 9467 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6725t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latency in a lab scenario [7:6453]
Daniel, There are different modular interfaces you can purchase for the RDS. i.e.. we have RS-449 and RS-232. The RDS sits between two routed interfaces and acts as the DCE. The cables you need are DTE for the router and the interface style you purchase for the RDS (should be the standard cables you use now). The bandwidth and latency are changed through dip switches on the front panel of the RDS. The only downside we found was the bandwidth speed that tops out at 2.048 Mbps. Adtech has a more advanced product that can scale up but the price difference is hefty. We have been very happy with the product and it allows us to test applications to specific what if scenarios. The tech support at East Coast Datacom's was also very responsive any time we called in with questions. Hope this helps Aloha Shawn - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: 'Shawn Goodson' ; Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: RE: latency in a lab scenario [7:6453] Did this connection reqire any special cables or configuration? It appears to use standard V.35 DTE cables. Where does the line clocking come from? TIA -Original Message- From: Shawn Goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: latency in a lab scenario [7:6453] There was an earlier post that described East Coast Datacom's Router Delay Simulator. We have been using the RDS in our lab to provide latency and bandwidth constraints between endpoints. The box has worked great and the pricing wasn't bad. http://www.ecdata.com/rds/rds.htm Shawn Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6724t=6453 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: With a dialup setup, I can trace, but not ping, why's that? [7:6726]
I've seen similar results when trying to ping a distant end that has allot of delay. The TTL used for ping on an NT is different than the TTL used for traceroute. A traceroute is successful but the ping fails, or the ping works on a Unix but not a Windows platform. Some times adjusting the TTL will allow the ping to work. There seems to be allot of latency in the traceroute provided below. Shawn - Original Message - From: NRF To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: With a dialup setup, I can trace, but not ping, why's that? [7:6177] I got this weird situation here: I got router A that dials into router B through an analog modem (async lines). On both routers A and B, I am using dialer profiles with rotary-groups. B is also connected to the Internet, through E0 (to a cable modem), and I have properly set up NAT, so that E0 is the outside interface and the dialer interface is the inside interface. A can properly dial into B with no problem. A has a static route pointing to its dialer interface. A does not have any other routes (all other interfaces have been shut, etc.) So basically, A has to dial to B to get anywhere. I have verified that dialing does indeed work properly. A cannot ping the outside world. For example, if I ping www.yahoo.com I get nothing. But here's the really weird part. Apparently, A can trace to www.yahoo.com, with no problem. I should also state that my dialer-list is this: dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit So, does anybody know why I can trace, but not ping? Is there something about Async interfaces or Dialer interfaces that causes thing weird behavior to happen? Check out this output: r1#trace www.yahoo.com Translating www.yahoo.com...domain server (128.32.136.12) [OK] Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to www.yahoo.akadns.net (204.71.200.67) 1 50.50.50.50 40 msec 36 msec 36 msec 2 24.250.141.1 52 msec 48 msec 48 msec 3 r1-ge-3-0.pinol1.sfba.home.net (24.9.239.225) 52 msec 48 msec 52 msec 4 r1-dpt-srp-5-0.oakland1.sfba.home.net (216.197.144.148) 52 msec 52 msec 48 m sec 5 bb1-dpt-srp-1-0.rdc1.sfba.home.net (216.197.144.129) 56 msec 52 msec 53 msec 6 c2-pos5-1.snjsca1.home.net (24.7.76.181) 52 msec 52 msec 52 msec 7 pos6-3.core1.SanJose1.Level3.net (209.245.146.129) 64 msec 56 msec 52 msec 8 gigaethernet6-0.ipcolo1.SanJose1.Level3.net (209.244.13.42) 56 msec 56 msec 52 msec 9 POS11-0.ipcolo3.SanJose1.Level3.net (209.244.13.58) 52 msec 53 msec 52 msec 10 cust-int.level3.net (64.152.69.18) 56 msec 56 msec 56 msec 11 ge-1-2-0.msr2.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.100.154) 60 msec 52 msec 52 msec 12 vl21.bas2.snv.yahoo.com (216.115.100.229) 53 msec 56 msec 56 msec 13 www.yahoo.akadns.net (204.71.200.67) 52 msec 56 msec 52 msec r1#ping 204.71.200.67 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 204.71.200.67, timeout is 2 seconds: . Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) r1# Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6726t=6726 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Control traffic of NetMeeting on routers? [7:6727]
Hi All - I wonder if there is anyway, to control the NetMeeting traffic on the routers/switches? Since WAN pipes are the bottle neck, I don't want to block the NetMeeting traffic, but apply some kind of policy to the bandwidth of the Video/Audio conference piece of NetMeeting to ensure that it won't kill the pipe... Thanks in advance! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6727t=6727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
Hi Andrew, Congratulation for you success. I am going to go for CIT next week. Do you have any tips and suggestion about the exam ? Regards, Ronny - Original Message - From: Andrew Larkins To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725] I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Group Limited Tel : +27 11 800 9467 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6728t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deleting flash and squeeze command on a 4500m router [7:6729]
Hi folks, I just did a delete flash:c4500-is-mz.113-11b.bin on my 4500m router. Here's the output of sh flash: gateway#sh flash System flash directory: File Length Name/status 1 9028608 c4500-jk9s-mz.122-1.bin 2 4003224 c4500-is-mz.113-11b.bin [deleted] [13031960 bytes used, 3745256 available, 16777216 total] 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) Here is what I get when I try to run 'squeeze' to free up the space from the deleted file: 4500M#squeeze Translating squeeze Translating squeeze % Unknown command or computer name, or unable to find computer address 4500M#sque? % Unrecognized command My question is, how do i gain my space back without reloading? Thanks for any advice. -Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6729t=6729 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed of a serial interface [7:6645]
How about attaching a break-out box and connecting an oscilloscope to the clocking signal. Chances are I'm not being too helpful here am I? Would be handy if Cisco boxes could report on the actual clocking speed. Anybody know why this isn't already a feature? Gaz STRAND Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guy, You're right, it is an external CSU/DSU that is in a remote location. Thanks for the help. Scott Lupi, Guy wrote: I assume that this is a serial interface with no integrated CSU/DSU, and in that case the only way that I know of to tell the speed is to look at the external CSU/DSU and find out how many timeslots are configured. Hope this helps. Guy -Original Message- From: STRAND Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Speed of a serial interface [7:6645] How do you tell the actual speed of a serial interface. I know it is not the BW command and there is no clock rate set. Is there a command? Thanks, Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6730t=6645 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
computing power between 4500m vs 7000 with rsp [7:6731]
Hi folks, Is it true that the 4500m routers have the same cpu as the 7000 w/ RSP routers? Check out the sh ver on each: # on the 4500m cisco 4500 (R4K) processor (revision D) with 32768K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 04008700 R4700 CPU at 100Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0 # on the 7000 w/ RSP cisco RSP7000 (R4700) processor with 131072K/2072K bytes of memory. R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0 The only main difference is the 7000 w/ RSP has higher capacity for memory storage. I know this isn't a big deal. But it seems interesting to me. -Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6731t=6731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6732]
it neednot dial,thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6732t=6732 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redundancy design question [7:6646]
Jon, the answer to your question is NO. here`s the reasonyou COULD make yourself a Y cable from your CSU/DSU ,but you would have a few issues. I tried this sometime ago and found out the hard way. OK.first thing if both routers are on you have a major routing loop problem..AKA split horizon/Spanning tree both routers would recieve the input packet from the CSU and both would try to route it at the same time...(VERY BAD)i totally screwed up my lab routing by doing this . Also packets from host to internet are not routed properly... So i tried HSRP but found that only worked if i had only one VLan and didn`t load balance.it also was not as fast as just having one router..( pass as to why) SO you could set-up the cable and say shutdown one int on the backup router...which still means you have a latency (until you re-enablen the int and re-convergence takes place). i hope this is helpfull... BTW Please don`t ask me about CSU/DSU clocking as it was a BT leased line CSU/DSU and all i did was rip the cable apart and duplicate it ... Sorry steve From: Jon Reply-To: Jon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redundancy design question [7:6646] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:09:25 -0400 I've been reading about designing physical redundancy into networks, by having hot standby devices and using HSRP between them. As an example, if a site has a single router and a single core switch, these are points of risk. By adding a second core switch and a second router, any hardware failure should be overcome by the standby device taking over. If all the servers and wiring closet switches are multi-homed to both core switches, users shouldn't notice that a fault has occured. (I assume that the loss of a wiring closet switch is acceptable -- perhaps local spares are sufficient). However, if I only have one WAN circuit coming into the facility, it can only be connected to one router at a time, right? So, if the active router fails, how does the WAN connectivity fail over, short of an operator moving the cable to the second router? I'm not trying to address WAN circuit redundancy or multi-homing, that's a different worm-can to open. Is there some way to have both routers connected to the same WAN circuit? Something along the lines of a WYE-cable that connects both routers to the demarc connection? Or is this something that the circuit provider would address with their equipement (for a fee, I'm sure)? If this has been hashed over in the past, I couldn't find it in the archives. So, if we've covered this before, could someone share the key search words to locate the discussion? -jon- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6733t=6646 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deleting flash and squeeze command on a 4500m router [7:6734]
Hi Frank, I came across a similar thing on an AS5300 recently. I had a dig around and eventually found the info on the URL below. I understand there is a bit of a problem with URL's being removed at the moment, so in case it does, a brief summary: There are 3 classes of Cisco flash (A,B and C). Class A - allows delete and squeeze Class B - allows delete(files are marked as deleted), but the flash must be erased (all of it) to get rid of them. This seems a bit daft, as both deleted and non-deleted files are then erased. Basically, the delete command seems a little redundant in Class B. Class C - Dynamic. Delete will remove the file immediately. Unfortunately yours fits into Class B I believe. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/fun_c /fcprt2/fcifs.htm WTWR Regards, Gaz Frank Kim wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi folks, I just did a delete flash:c4500-is-mz.113-11b.bin on my 4500m router. Here's the output of sh flash: gateway#sh flash System flash directory: File Length Name/status 1 9028608 c4500-jk9s-mz.122-1.bin 2 4003224 c4500-is-mz.113-11b.bin [deleted] [13031960 bytes used, 3745256 available, 16777216 total] 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) Here is what I get when I try to run 'squeeze' to free up the space from the deleted file: 4500M#squeeze Translating squeeze Translating squeeze % Unknown command or computer name, or unable to find computer address 4500M#sque? % Unrecognized command My question is, how do i gain my space back without reloading? Thanks for any advice. -Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6734t=6734 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6735t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
Dude, great job! -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725] I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Group Limited Tel : +27 11 800 9467 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6736t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6737]
Must be , if you believe that, you will believe anything ha ha W. Alan Robertson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Maybe the trainer wasn't qualified to teach mouse operations, as the topic wasn't spoon fed to him in the course notes... Alan (Sinister laugh, BOFH style...) - Original Message - This is becoming one of those why do NT guys look down on Unix guys thing. I once seen a Unix admin attend a NT course and was rejected by the trainer on the first day because he doesn't know how to use a mouse, and the trainer insisted that he is not going to train someone how to use the mouse on a Admin course. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6737t=6737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6738]
They will not hate another UNIX system, they just cannot agree what is a unix system !! They hate anything that allows a manager to understand what they are doing. i.e. NOTHING. Arumugam Sundarum wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... you are talking bullshit man.. A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems. They simply accept as if they are part of the family. This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!! rgds. UNIX to the world -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6641] Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun guys hate the hp guys and so on. Linux is a full blown cult. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6344] Because Unix is all a cult !!! The only thing worse than Unix guys, are SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, Lu Lu Sessions :o) Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P Phil - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6738t=6738 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gigabit Ethernet Signal propagation. [7:6739]
Does Gig Ethernet conform to the same minimum frame sizes as general Ethernet ie 64 bytes.If so how does it accomodate late collisions when running over distances of 2km or more.??? Or is this not relevant as it will be point to point full duplex and effectively collision free? Please help it is giving me brain strain Chris Burnham, Systems Engineer, Delphis Consulting Plc. Tel: +(44) 020 7916 0200 Mob: +(44) 07799403576 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee and are confidential. They may also be legally privileged.Copyright in them is reserved by Delphis Consulting PLC [Delphis] and they must not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the addressee.If you have received this e-mail and any accompanying files in error, you may not copy, publish or use them in any way and you should delete them from your system and notify us immediately.E-mails are not secure. Delphis does not accept responsibility for changes to e-mails that occur after they have been sent. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Delphis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6739t=6739 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IS-IS queries [7:6638]
Doug, thanks for the reply - it finally clicked about 20 minutes after I posted. what was confusing me I think is that the link is inter-area, whereas in OSPF the ABR would be inter-area. the router can be inter-level, which I though it couldn't, and the L1-L2 adjancency was confusing me as I thought it was between a Level-1 and Level-2 interface which cannot be so. think I was getting Level and Layer a bit mixed also ;-) what I think I meant to draw out was: RA--RB--RC--RF--RG L1L1/2 L2 L1/2 L1- router-type l1l2 l2 l1 - adjacency-type \__area-x___/\__area-y__/\__area-z__/- area l1 l1+l2 l2 l1+l2 l1 - LS DB held many thanks for your help - I think I'm there now Andy - Original Message - From: Doug Lockwood To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:29 AM Subject: Re: IS-IS queries [7:6638] In your example, both RC and RE need to run both L1 and L2 processes. Doyle would refer to them as L1/L2 routers. So your second line would read: L1 L1 L1/L2 L2 L1/L2 L1 L1 Since RD only connects to other routers that run L1/L2 SPF, it can choose to be either L1 only, L2 only or both. RC and RE routers run 2 sets of SPF algorithms, one for L1 and another for L2. I also do not think L1 and L2 refer to Layer 1 and 2 of osi. I am told that this a very Decnet phase 4 view of the world. Think of L1 as within an area. Think of L2 as between areas. (or backbone routers) Think of L1/L2 as the ABR. a router can only be a Layer1 *OR* a Layer2 router (or IS I suppose) for a particular area, right? No. This is not correct. A router can run exactly 2 processes, an L1 and an L2 process. Feel free to drop me a line @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] or my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address, as well as the board. Good Luck Doug Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6740t=6638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost: GIADDR and Secondary Interface problems - help [7:6741]
Thanks Alan. Yeah, we do have a maintenance window for this so rebooting is not really a problem except I'm targeting 104 weeks of uptime!!! :-) Guess that'll have to wait another 104 weeks I'll give the 1st 2 ideas a try first and hopefully that fixes their problem. Thanks for the help, you guys have been great!!! Kenneth W. Alan Robertson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Kenneth, It sounds to me like a bug... Have you checked the Cisco bug database? Short of that, here's what I'd do: First, remove the ip helper-address from the interface, and then add it again... See what happpens. It's possible that the ip helper-address function checks the interfaces primary IP address when the command is added, but has no mechanism to check it again after being initialized. If that doesn't work, I'd remove it again, shut down the interface, bring the interface back up, and then add the help address again. As a last resort, reloading the router should clear the problem, but I understand your reluctance to do so... 100% uptime is a noble pursuit, but there's no avoiding maintenance. I don't suppose you have a maintenance window, do you? Hope this helps... Alan - Original Message - From: Kenneth To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Repost: GIADDR and Secondary Interface problems - help [7:6695] Hi, guys. It's been a while since I've posted something here but I'm pretty stumped with this problem somehow. Anyway, here's my problem: Remote office subnet: 192.168.5.0 255.255.255.0 Plan to change subnet into 192.168.19.0 255.255.255.0 Router relaying dhcp requests to 192.168.1.11 (DHCP Server in Central site) Current fa0/0 interface on LAN: 192.168.5.1 255.255.255.0 I recently configured the interface to have 192.168.19.1 as its primary address 192.168.5.1 as its secondary address On the DHCP Server, I've deleted the 192.168.5.0 scope and activated the 192.168.19.0 scope The reason I have 2 ip addresses on the FastEthernet interface of the router is to allow people who haven't rebooted their computer to still be able to access email and services at the central site and print to their local LAN LPR printers... The problem I'm having is that once the computers have rebooted, and I did a debug ip dhcp server events, packets, linkage, I keep seeing the router still setting the GIADDR of the request as 192.168.5.1 ... since it's forwarding this information, the DHCP server on the central site wasn't responding because of the non-existence of the 192.168.5.0 scope Reading Cisco's documentation, I thought the router uses the primary ip address of the interface as its GIADDR? I have read something about ip dhcp smart-relay but I doubt it applies to this problem... BTW, this is the way that it should be done and I know a lot of people hate the secondary ip address but I'm really trying to make this change as transparent to the users as possible! Thanks guys! Kenneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6741t=6741 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Gigabit Ethernet Signal propagation. [7:6739]
Chris, FYI - taken from http://www.lanart.com/learning/whitepapers/gig_wp.htm In Ethernet, the smallest packet size allowed is 64 bytes (8 bits per byte = 512 bits). The purpose of establishing a minimum packet size was to ensure that a station could detect collisions at the furthest point of the network, allowing the CSMS/CD portion of the protocol to deal with it appropriately (referred to as the 512 bit-time rule). As speed increases by factors of 10 (10 Mbps to 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps), the distance that you can transmit and still properly detect collisions is decreased by a factor of 10. Consequently, at Gigabit speeds in a shared Ethernet environment, you are limited to about 20 meters over UTP. The Gigabit standard addresses this distance limitation issue by a method known as carrier extension. Carrier extension effectively increases the packet size to 512 bytes (4096 bits), by adding extension symbols to increase the size of the packet to a size that can be detected by all devices on a Gigabit link up to 100 meters away. The end device then strips this additional data or extension symbols off when it is received. The problem is that increasing the packet size (adding 448 bytes of extension symbols) means that you have actually decreased the throughput to about 100 Mbps Fast Ethernet speed. (Sending larger amounts of data down a larger pipe nets you no significant gain.) To deal with this reduction in throughput, a method known as packet bursting is used in conjunction with carrier extension. Packet bursting improves the efficiency of carrier extension by decreasing the inter-packet gap when multiple packets are transmitted. (Reducing the amount of data you send down a larger pipe nets you a nominal gain.) However, even when both methods are used, throughput in half-duplex Gigabit remains hindered and never achieves full 1 Gbps speed. The bottom line is that half-duplex is possible but not recommended in Gigabit environments. Carrier detection and packet bursting are not required in a full-duplex Gigabit environment. Regards Giles -Original Message- From: Burnham, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Signal propagation. [7:6739] Does Gig Ethernet conform to the same minimum frame sizes as general Ethernet ie 64 bytes.If so how does it accomodate late collisions when running over distances of 2km or more.??? Or is this not relevant as it will be point to point full duplex and effectively collision free? Please help it is giving me brain strain Chris Burnham, Systems Engineer, Delphis Consulting Plc. Tel: +(44) 020 7916 0200 Mob: +(44) 07799403576 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee and are confidential. They may also be legally privileged.Copyright in them is reserved by Delphis Consulting PLC [Delphis] and they must not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the addressee.If you have received this e-mail and any accompanying files in error, you may not copy, publish or use them in any way and you should delete them from your system and notify us immediately.E-mails are not secure. Delphis does not accept responsibility for changes to e-mails that occur after they have been sent. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Delphis *** = THE INFORMATION IN THIS E-MAIL AND IN ANY ATTACHMENTS IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY BE PRIVILEGED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, PLEASE DESTROY THIS MESSAGE AND NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY. YOU SHOULD NOT RETAIN, COPY OR USE THIS E-MAIL FOR ANY PURPOSE, NOR DISCLOSE ALL OR ANY PART OF ITS CONTENTS TO ANY OTHER PERSON. ANY VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THIS MESSAGE ARE THOSE OF THE INDIVIDUAL SENDER, EXCEPT WHERE THE SENDER SPECIFICALLY STATES THEM TO BE THE VIEWS OF LLOYD'S. LLOYD'S MAY MONITOR THE CONTENT OF E-MAILS SENT AND RECEIVED VIA ITS NETWORK FOR VIRUSES OR UNAUTHORISED USE AND FOR OTHER LAWFUL BUSINESS PURPOSES. mail06 = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6742t=6739 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Gigabit Ethernet Signal propagation. [7:6739]
Yes No. See: this url w ww.ece.wpi.edu/courses/ee535/hwk98/hwk3cd98/edmundom/chapter5.htm -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Burnham, Chris Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Signal propagation. [7:6739] Does Gig Ethernet conform to the same minimum frame sizes as general Ethernet ie 64 bytes.If so how does it accomodate late collisions when running over distances of 2km or more.??? Or is this not relevant as it will be point to point full duplex and effectively collision free? Please help it is giving me brain strain Chris Burnham, Systems Engineer, Delphis Consulting Plc. Tel: +(44) 020 7916 0200 Mob: +(44) 07799403576 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee and are confidential. They may also be legally privileged.Copyright in them is reserved by Delphis Consulting PLC [Delphis] and they must not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the addressee.If you have received this e-mail and any accompanying files in error, you may not copy, publish or use them in any way and you should delete them from your system and notify us immediately.E-mails are not secure. Delphis does not accept responsibility for changes to e-mails that occur after they have been sent. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Delphis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6744t=6739 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Redundancy design question [7:6646]
...in an attempt to torch the straw man... We could talk at length about the pros and cons of the straw man you present; if I understand the main question at hand the question is how to provide some redundancy to the WAN link. Short answer is that real-world solutions would include some type of alternate or backup circuit (ISDN has already been mentioned on this thread) connected to the same router or a redundant one. To look at the hypothetical scenario you propose - I assume there is some way to do as you propose, I don't know how you could have the router interface active on both routers at once such that automagic failover was possible. Aside from the physical-layer issues (splitting the wire(s), noise, clocking problems, etc.) and the data-link layer issues (having three devices on what is supposed to be a point-to-point circuit); consider the network-layer problems. If Core-Rtr1 is primary and Core-Rtr2 is backup connecting to some remote router(s) (Remote-RtrX) and assume we're talking IP - say the network is 192.168.1.0/24. Then Each core router will need an (active) interface on the 192.168.1.0/24 network but, Core-Rtr2 needs to send all traffic via Core-Rtr1 when it is alive and well. Well, I'm sure that somebody, somewhere is doing something pretty similar to this (I continue to be amazed at what I find out there...) but I would make sure that my pager number wasn't on the call list for support. The closest thing I've seen to what you're talking about (in a common, supportable, lowest $$ configuration) would be to utilize frame-relay and connect every router into the cloud. Yes, you end up paying for the additional local loop and F/R port charge for the 2nd core router but most carriers offer DR PVCs at little or no cost to customers. Throw a little ISDN into the pot to backup the frame network...just keep adding the $$ In the real world, it all boils down to how many 9's the company is willing to pay for - I don't care how hard you try, you're not going to get 99.999% availability on a three-9's budget. Since this is purely an academic discussion...I think others will agree that having a hot-standby router (especially a fairly costly one - you did say 7206, right) but only one serial link is probably a mis-direction of funds. In my experience, serial lines fail much more frequently than hardware. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Redundancy design question [7:6646] Keep in mind, this is not the typical help me design/fix my network for free question. I have been reading various papers, chapters, and case studies, and am trying to get my head wrapped around the details, now. I've built some scenarios in my head, trying to see problems and solutions, rather than ways to buy more gear. I'm also not trying to solve the WAN redundancy problem, just trying to get the WAN to connect into my LAN redundancy solution. The fundamental problem I'm trying to solve is how to protect against any hardware failure of my core devices knocking out normal operations. I am not concerned with protecting against any other faults outside my direct control (e.g. loss of WAN circuit, loss of server, Howard sets off a tactical device in the CO, etc.). For the sake of having a straw man to burn: A remote site is connected to the main office over a SHNS/SONET DS-3 connection, with full SONET protection to the demarc equipment on the wall of the MDF. (To limit the discussion scope, I will only describe the remote site -- we will assume the main facility is impervious to faults). The telco provides a coax connection for connecting the router to their gear. Equipment in the MDF includes: a 7206 with a DS-3 module and a FE module, a Cat4006 with multiple GBIC blade and 10/100 blade. There are three IDF wiring closets, one per floor, each with a Cat4006 fully populated with 10/100 blades. Each IDF switch is connected over a single GBIC/GigE connection to the MDF switch. All users are connected to their IDF over a single Cat5 run. All servers are connected (single-homed) to the MDF switch. To add some protection to this model, I will add a second Cat4006 in the MDF, with the same blades as the first. I will also dual-home all the servers to both MDF switches -- assume that the proper NICs are present to allow this, and that they are properly configured. I am now protected against the loss of one of my blades, or chassis, or running over a single cable with my handy BOFH rolling chair. But, my router might break, so I need to protect against that risk. Add a second 7206, same blades, dual-homed to both switches. Except I only have one coax cable from the demarc to carry the WAN signal. How do I connect the coax to two router blades, so that both routers could use the media? Or, is there a type of service available that allows for physical failover of the
help on nlsp [7:6746]
Hi, I am having problem with nlsp, i couldnt understand why its not advertizing some networks. I couldnt find any good documentation and case studies on NLSP. It would be really kind if someone tells me whats wrong or where can i get some case studies on it. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6746t=6746 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - Pinging hosts [7:6677]
Ask yourself three questions; 1. can router A ping the far side of router C 2. are the workstation and router C in the same vlan 3. is the workstation configured for a default gateway of router C's near side interface? If you can answer yes to all these questions you should be able to go ping crazy. - Original Message - From: Cisco Boy To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Newbie Question - Pinging hosts [7:6677] Here's a newbie question for you all. I have 3 routers that are connected to each other side by side as such and each router is able to ping each other's interfaces okay. A - B - C---2924 Switch I've added a 2924 switch and connected it to an Ethernet interface on Router C. If I plug in a workstation on one of the ports on the switch, what other configuration do I need in order for my Router A to ping the workstation? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6748t=6677 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Migration EIGRP-OSPF [7:5724]
Your comments help illustrate my points, answering the second point first (because it is easier), if there is a need (or desire) to have multi-vendor capabilities within your network then absolutely, you'll need to look at something other than EIGRP (probably OSPF). If you're getting SIA's then you don't have a healthy network because EIGRP is not configured properly, plain and simple! EIGRP will grow out-of-the-box only so big before it breaks - a point that Cisco only recently started admitting. If you simply do the following: Router# config t Router(config)# router eigrp 1 Router(config)# network 10.0.0.0 Router(config)# end Router# to say 100 or so routers in a redundant hub and spoke configuration - good luck, I hope none of your wan links bounce. I've seen more than one network like that fall to its knees as soon as an instability occurred (7513's running at 99% CPU, cooking eggs on the RSP's until you finally just powered them off). It is no different than OSPF where you wouldn't want to have the same 100 routers all in area 0 (yes, I've seen that too...) Just as with OSPF, where you'd define different areas to break-up the network, you'd do the same with distribute-lists and network summarization (automatic or manual) in EIGRP. So, it all comes back to the question from my original post: What is the reason for going to OSPF in this instance, stability problems with EIGRP or multi-vendor support? If you haven't consumed your cup of Cisco kool-aid, haven't gotten the religion of a Cisco end-to-end network then by all means, OSPF is probably in your future. If, on the other hand, EIGRP is melting down on a regular basis and the CIO/CTO is seriously considering implementing RFC 1149 protocols then you're faced with a decision. Migrate to OSPF where you're forced to implement a better network design or fix EIGRP. I spent a few years supporting a brokerage network that wasn't properly designed; the initial designers - while well intentioned - didn't fully understand IP addressing or the importance of bit-wise summarization. Long story short, there were a little over 100 remote offices connected via Frame-Relay to two hub locations, they were in the process of adding more and were experiencing problems whenever a core T-1 would bounce. This is about the time I was brought in to help with the routers. It all started reaching critical mass (daily outages) at about the same time ATT lost their entire frame could for a day or so. At the time, Cisco hadn't published the tricks to proper EIGRP network design (or how to make a bad design still work with EIGRP), there was still the attitude that EIGRP is easy, simply configure it and forget it. After multiple escalations within Cisco and getting to know the local account team pretty well (seeing them daily) we were put onto Cisco's critical accounts list. I don't know how many people on the list have been in a similar situation - not a spot you really want to be in. Basically, Cisco's customer support organization goes into overdrive, because the customer is hemorrhaging $$ as a result of problems with the Cisco equipment. We eventually met with the guys who wrote the Cisco Press Advanced IP Network Design book (a group of some pretty fart smuckers by the way) who explained what was going on and how to fix it. Fortunately or unfortunately, you can fix EIGRP so that it works pretty well even with a bad network design. We were given the tools (distribute-lists, manual summarization, etc.) to fix the existing network so that it was stable until the core problems could be addressed. I offered proposal after proposal to correct the core problems (addressing, distribution layer, etc) but they were never acted upon. Each time they were shot down - layers 8, 9, and 10 in effect (Ego, Politics, and Religion) - so that particular network is still in its fixed state and I have moved on to other clients (after fighting for two years to get them to address the real problems). The attitude of management was that they didn't need to do anything, the network was working, which it was. I tried to stress to them that it was only a matter of time before it stopped working again and that we should work to correct the problems in a slow and steady manner before being forced to implement a quick fix when it broke again, as the consultant, I lost the battle. So, I don't know which is better. If we had thrown out EIGRP in favor of OSPF the network wouldn't have been able to run (for nearly three years now) on the broken design, we would have had to split up the branches into areas that were contiguously addressed and summarized into the core. Layers 8, 9, and 10 wouldn't have been an issue because Layer 3 wouldn't have allowed it. Given an all-Cisco network I would recommend EIGRP over OSPF any day. It has faster convergence and more flexibility than OSPF - there have to be some benefits to a proprietary protocol, right, otherwise no one would use it. I
Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] - Yes [7:6750]
Nate, Thank you very much for pointing that out. Now it does actually make sense that the Ethernet port is assigned E0/0 (duh!). However, I still think it is a very stupid way of Cisco for doing this. Where do you hear a fixed port that is also consider as a module. Once again, thanks for pointing that out. Sean From: Nate Van Maren Reply-To: Nate Van Maren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] - Yes [7:6706] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:29:17 -0400 But your missing the point... The 2600 series routers has two slots... With a max of 32 lines per slot, add one and you get 65 for the aux... Same with a 3640, 4 slots 4x32+1 =129 for aux port... Now wait a minute. I didn't say the 2600 has two NM slots. It has slot 0 which is a fixed lan interface config with two wic slots and slot 1, the NM slot. That is still two slots. from http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/net_m od2/conntser.htm The interface number of a port is determined using the following relation: interface-number = (32 x slot-number) + unit-number + 1 Thanks -The Nate Sean Young wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The max. number of Async-line you can have on the NM for either 2600s or 3600s is thirty-two (32). I couldn't find any NM that has 64 async-line for either 2600s or 3600s routers. Therefore, the number 65 for AUX is still a mystery to me. Sean From: Neil Schneider Reply-To: Neil Schneider To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:16:49 -0400 The 2600 series only has one NM slot, but you can buy NM modules with different numbers of ports on them. -- Neil Schneider MCT MCSE CCSI CCNP Sean Young wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... CM, I don't know where you buy the Cisco 2600s router but from what I can see in front of me, I have a Cisco 2610, Cisco 2611 and another 2621, all of them only have 1 Network Module (NM) slot. If you are referring to Cisco 3620 then I might agree with you that Cisco 3620 has 2 NM slots. Please don't give out wrong information unless you know it is accurate. Anyone else would like to comment on this one. Am I correct in this case? Regards, Sean From: Charles Manafa To: 'Sean Young ' , '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:27:29 +0100Cisco 2600 is a modular router like the 3600, and is capable of supporting two modules. Whether or not these slots are populated, it doesn't change the tty numbering, i.e slot 0: 0-31, slot 1: 32-64 etc. As the AUX port is the last tty + 1, the AUX port is 65 on a 2600. CM -Original Message- From: Sean Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31/05/01 19:19 Subject: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] I am hoping someone on the group can explain to me the following situation: I've noticed that on the Cisco 2500s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 1 (sine consoleport is on line 0). However, on Cisco 2600s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 65(console port is still at line 0). On the cisco 3640 router, if I put my FE module in slot 0, thenthe AUX port is listed on line 129. If I put my FE module in slot 3, then the AUX port is listed on line 97. I understand why that is the case on Cisco 2500s and 3600s platform, but apparently, the 2600s platform is really out of wack. Why doesn't Cisco make themconsistent on all platforms? I work for an ISP shop and it is hard for me to new network engineering folks about this especially when it involves async-lines, AS5300, Radius andTACACS (you get the point). I guess when Cisco controls about 90% market share of the router market, it really doesn't give a f___ about these things. No wonder why Juniper andAvici are kicking Cisco's ass in the carrier market because it makes the product moreuser-friendly (until it becomes just as big as Cisco then those guys will start acting arrogant). An explaination from anyone in this group is very appreciate. Sean Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6751]
Man I love running something up a flag pole and see who salutes. Thank You, Don - Original Message - From: Christopher Kolp To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6720] I wouldn't necessarily say that... I'm a unix guy and will be the first to admit that a lot of us are fanatics. I'm not sure what your experience is but ive seen a LOT of arguemnts, ie. solaris vs. aix, sco vs. linux, linux vs. freebsd, etc etc etc. And what is a true unix guy?? Lots of experience? Working for a vendor? I don't understand. -ck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arumugam Sundarum Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6716] you are talking bullshit man.. A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems. They simply accept as if they are part of the family. This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!! rgds. UNIX to the world -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6641] Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun guys hate the hp guys and so on. Linux is a full blown cult. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6344] Because Unix is all a cult !!! The only thing worse than Unix guys, are SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, Lu Lu Sessions :o) Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P Phil - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6751t=6751 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6749]
Where did we get this guy? Not a cult just part of the family. Think about that one. Don - Original Message - From: Arumugam Sundarum To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6716] you are talking bullshit man.. A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems. They simply accept as if they are part of the family. This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!! rgds. UNIX to the world -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6641] Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun guys hate the hp guys and so on. Linux is a full blown cult. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6344] Because Unix is all a cult !!! The only thing worse than Unix guys, are SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, Lu Lu Sessions :o) Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P Phil - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6749t=6749 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
Congratulations. That's a difficult test. Enjoy your CCNP. -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725] I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Group Limited Tel : +27 11 800 9467 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6752t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
That is simply one possible solution. They have sent a survey out to all of the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6753t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
At 03:14 AM 6/1/01 -0400, Andrew Larkins wrote: I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins I am fairly sure any specialization based off of the CCNP or CCDP has been retired. If you do not have it by now, you cannot get them. However, I am fairly certain that the CCNP gives you a solid base which is probably more than the requirements for the new Cisco Qualified Security Specialist that took the CCNP Security Specialist's place. -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6754t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
So what is everyone's take? --- Belt, Louie wrote: That is simply one possible solution. They have sent a survey out to all of the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6755t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6756]
I use a 827 router. This will go step by step to config one. You need CCO. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/794/827_faq.html Steve -Original Message- From: Leo Shen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6732] it neednot dial,thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6756t=6756 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Qualified Specialists [7:6757]
If you achieve one of these designations what acronyms are being used to identify them? CQS(SNA/IP), CQS(Security)? -- James Haynes Network Architect Cendant IT A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6757t=6757 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]
YES it is worth it when you complete your goal. If you goal is not CCIE then don't spend the money. -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Reply is inline. Robert Padjen wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My $.02. I have always been disenchanted with the certifications offered and I would like to believe that some others in the industry feel the same. This may be the case here. IMHO, most of the people I know personally that are disenhanted with certifications are that way because they didn't like the idea that someone could, in a year or two of hard studying, learn as much about networking as it took them 10 years to learn. I'm not knocking good old experience, and I'm in the process of getting more and more experience everyday to truly fill out my skillset with the knowledge of problems and issues that you don't read about in textbooks. I realize the value of experience versus book knowledge. Basically, look at the certification tests. Many are old, poorly written, irrelevant to production environments, simple (low percentage of redundancy or complex scenario questions) and an overall difficulty not related to technological issues but grammar, construct and marketing. As such, passing proves that you can do one thing - pass the test. It doesn't mean that you can troubleshoot, design, deploy or manage anything. Is Erlang-B important in routing and switching? Is knowing the port density on the Z series router valuable when the product was replaced two years ago? I have to disagree to some of your points here. Some of the exams, have dated information, but Cisco makes an effort to make sure the exams are updated so that you're not dealing with totally antiquated technologies. For instance, a friend who completed CCNP a year before I started the CCNP 2.0, said that his switching exam didn't cover any multicast or multilayer switching. While going through the CCNP 2.0, my switching exam was filled with multilayer switching and multicast/multicasting routing protocols, which is STILL not being utilized in many environments because it's too new. I will admit that many of the scenarios proposed in the exams are by no means complex compared to real life situations. However, what you're failing to recognize (or admit) is that passing the exam proves more than you can pass an exam. If what you're saying were true, no college degree would considered valid because college as a whole is just a bunch of exams to pass. This logic escapes me. One thing that passing exams gives you that even years of real world experience cannot is the details and background to understand why things are the way they are. Sure theory isn't always = real world, but it never is. I work with a network engineer who has been such for FIVE YEARS. He was looking in a router the other day and noticed some multicast traffic and said We don't run any multicast on our network and me, the book learned green horn, simply said We're running EIGRP on our network, aren't we? (which we are). He didn't have a clue what I was implying. So I just left the engineer to figure it out. The company I am with is a very large, multinational, Cisco-only company with (literally) teams of (probably over 100) engineers that all have great experience, and hardly any of them is certified. I don't have any disrespect for them because of that. However, when someone with ZERO real-world experience, like me, can walk in on a 6-month contract armed with no more than a sharp mind and a CCNA (1/2 of the CCNP finished =), make many suggestions and modifications to their network that have had global impact and improved performance or solved long-time problems, and have gained the respect of every engineer that works there, that proves to me and should prove to everyone that attaining these certifications is much more than proving you can pass exams. My father-in-law once told me that Sometimes 10 years experience isn't always 10 years experience. It's the same 1 year of experience over and over. There are sooo many people that learn just what they need to get by and then look down at a hungry young go-getter that has certifications because they feel that the youngster surely can't know things that I don't know, not realizing they know RIP inside and out, but are clueless about OSPF, EIGRP, BGP, etc. They understand setting up a VLAN perfectly, but have no clue how to route between them. They understand HSRP, but have no clue that the preempt delay is. There are a plethora of details that can be gleaned from studying from certs that even years of experience sometimes don't reveal. It's not sour grapes - I'm certified. But, its on the last page of my resume, and its not who I am. I'm me, and I happen to be certified. Its not I'm certified
Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] - Yes [7:6759]
Hi; The fixed moduele will be slot 0. The NM module will be in slot 1. From the configuration, you can tell. But I am not sure I am right. Feel free to discuss. Best Rgds; Vincent Sean Young Nate, Thank you very much for pointing that out. Now it does actually make sense that the Ethernet port is assigned E0/0 (duh!). However, I still think it is a very stupid way of Cisco for doing this. Where do you hear a fixed port that is also consider as a module. Once again, thanks for pointing that out. Sean From: Nate Van Maren Reply-To: Nate Van Maren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] - Yes [7:6706] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:29:17 -0400 But your missing the point... The 2600 series routers has two slots... With a max of 32 lines per slot, add one and you get 65 for the aux... Same with a 3640, 4 slots 4x32+1 =129 for aux port... Now wait a minute. I didn't say the 2600 has two NM slots. It has slot 0 which is a fixed lan interface config with two wic slots and slot 1, the NM slot. That is still two slots. from http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/net_ m od2/conntser.htm The interface number of a port is determined using the following relation: interface-number = (32 x slot-number) + unit-number + 1 Thanks -The Nate Sean Young wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The max. number of Async-line you can have on the NM for either 2600s or 3600s is thirty-two (32). I couldn't find any NM that has 64 async-line for either 2600s or 3600s routers. Therefore, the number 65 for AUX is still a mystery to me. Sean From: Neil Schneider Reply-To: Neil Schneider To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:16:49 -0400 The 2600 series only has one NM slot, but you can buy NM modules with different numbers of ports on them. -- Neil Schneider MCT MCSE CCSI CCNP Sean Young wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... CM, I don't know where you buy the Cisco 2600s router but from what I can see in front of me, I have a Cisco 2610, Cisco 2611 and another 2621, all of them only have 1 Network Module (NM) slot. If you are referring to Cisco 3620 then I might agree with you that Cisco 3620 has 2 NM slots. Please don't give out wrong information unless you know it is accurate. Anyone else would like to comment on this one. Am I correct in this case? Regards, Sean From: Charles Manafa To: 'Sean Young ' , '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:27:29 +0100Cisco 2600 is a modular router like the 3600, and is capable of supporting two modules. Whether or not these slots are populated, it doesn't change the tty numbering, i.e slot 0: 0-31, slot 1: 32-64 etc. As the AUX port is the last tty + 1, the AUX port is 65 on a 2600. CM -Original Message- From: Sean Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31/05/01 19:19 Subject: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] I am hoping someone on the group can explain to me the following situation: I've noticed that on the Cisco 2500s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 1 (sine consoleport is on line 0). However, on Cisco 2600s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 65(console port is still at line 0). On the cisco 3640 router, if I put my FE module in slot 0, thenthe AUX port is listed on line 129. If I put my FE module in slot 3, then the AUX port is listed on line 97. I understand why that is the case on Cisco 2500s and 3600s platform, but apparently, the 2600s platform is really out of wack. Why doesn't Cisco make themconsistent on all platforms? I work for an ISP shop and it is hard for me to new network engineering folks about this especially when it involves async-lines, AS5300, Radius andTACACS (you get the point). I guess when Cisco controls about 90% market share of the router market, it really doesn't give a f___ about these things. No wonder why Juniper andAvici are kicking Cisco's ass in the carrier market because it makes the product moreuser-friendly (until it becomes just as big as Cisco then those guys will start acting arrogant). An explaination from anyone in this group is very appreciate. Sean Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and
Re: CID - Some concerns [7:6717]
Hi Charles, Just passed the CID in early April. At that time I didn't receive any AVVID or VPN questions. The strata questions can all be answered from the Sybex book (even though it's only one page of Strata details it's enough). I know Cisco finally completed grading and releasing the scores of the beta CID from late last year. I'm curious to know when the new CID will be available. HTH, Sean C. CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6761t=6717 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6760]
THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6760t=6760 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6762]
Hi, we are running ADSL at our ROBO around the US, we also use a VPN to get them back to HQ. I will include a config that might help. This is a 2621 router Thank you, Rob Mears III, CCNA, MSCE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom ** version 12.1 no service single-slot-reload-enable service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Amardsl001 ! logging rate-limit console 10 except errors enable secret 5 $1$Onlr$fH2gcC0tDCI9hEpkC2/Nq. ! ! ! memory-size iomem 10 ip subnet-zero ! ! no ip finger ip name-server XXX.XXX.1.8 ! no ip dhcp-client network-discovery no mgcp timer receive-rtcp ! ! crypto isakmp policy 1 hash md5 authentication pre-share crypto isakmp key X address XXX.XXX.37.5 ! ! crypto ipsec transform-set rtpset esp-des esp-md5-hmac ! crypto map rtp local-address BVI1 crypto map rtp 1 ipsec-isakmp set peer XXX.XXX.37.5 set security-association lifetime seconds 28800 set transform-set rtpset match address amarillo ! call rsvp-sync ! ! ! ! ! bridge irb ! ! ! ! interface FastEthernet0/0 ip address XXX.XXX.102.1 255.255.255.224 ip helper-address XXX.xX.6.31 ip nat inside no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache duplex auto speed auto ! interface ATM0/1 description ADSL SWB XXX-3xxx-1600 Trouble 800-net-help no ip address no ip mroute-cache atm vc-per-vp 256 no atm ilmi-keepalive pvc 0/35 encapsulation aal5snap ! bundle-enable dsl operating-mode auto no fair-queue bridge-group 1 hold-queue 224 in ! interface FastEthernet0/1 no ip address shutdown duplex auto speed auto ! interface BVI1 ip address XXX.XXX.XXX.49 255.255.255.248 ip nat outside no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache crypto map rtp ! ip nat pool Net-XXX.xxX.218.126.50 XXX.xXX.126.50 netmask 255.255.255.248 ip nat inside source route-map nonat pool Net-64 overload ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 xxx no ip http server ! ! ip access-list extended amarillo permit ip x permit ip x permit ip x logging 10.x access-list 1 permit xxx access-list 120 deny ip xxx access-list 120 permit ip xxx ! ! route-map nonat permit 10 match ip address 120 ! snmp-server community RO snmp-server community RW snmp-server packetsize 4096 bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip ! dial-peer cor custom ! ! ! ! ! line con 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password xxx login ! no scheduler allocate end Amardsl001# -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6756] I use a 827 router. This will go step by step to config one. You need CCO. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/794/827_faq.html Steve -Original Message- From: Leo Shen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6732] it neednot dial,thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6762t=6762 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uploading IOS on 2500 via AUI [7:6687]
Please elaborate what do you mean by 'For IOS file greater than 16M, you can't use TFTP' ? Vincent Chong wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If you use the following to upload the IOS into your router. TFTP, FTP, RCP. I do not see any problem. Note: For IOS file greater than 16M, you can't use TFTP. TIA Vincent Sean C. Hi Group, I'm uploading a new IOS on a 2509. I've verified I have enough Ram/Flash on the 2509 for the new IOS. I have to use the available memory pumping the new IOS on, so I'm going to have to squeeze the old IOS off before doing the new upload. To do the upload, can I go through the AUI interface, via a transceiver, and use a cross-over cable attached right to the Ethernet port on my PC (assuming I use proper IP addresses)? I've done this a few times on 2600's (doing a cross-over between the 2600 Ether and my PC) but have never put a transceiver into the mix. TIA, Sean C. CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6764t=6687 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6765]
An interesting spin on embracing any technology, OS's included, with quasi-religious zealotry lives here: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/24/160210mode=thread - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6749] Where did we get this guy? Not a cult just part of the family. Think about that one. Don - Original Message - From: Arumugam Sundarum To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6716] you are talking bullshit man.. A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems. They simply accept as if they are part of the family. This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!! rgds. UNIX to the world -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6641] Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun guys hate the hp guys and so on. Linux is a full blown cult. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6344] Because Unix is all a cult !!! The only thing worse than Unix guys, are SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, Lu Lu Sessions :o) Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P Phil - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6765t=6765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VERY strange 2621 behavior [7:6636]
I discovered that somehow the configuration register was changed to 0x3922! What the heck does that do?? I was watching the person who initially booted the router and he did absolutely nothing that would alter the configuration register; it just seems to have done it during a reload because we didn't notice this odd behavior until we did a warm reboot. Very bizarre. But, since I changed the config register back to 0x2102 it seems to be working normally. I can think of nothing that would cause an unexpected configuration register change like that. Oh well, another weird issue in the books. I think I'll be upgrading the IOS on that pretty quickly! John Daniel Cotts 5/31/01 12:36:51 PM Time to change your terminal emulation software to different speeds until you find the correct one. I have heard that with Hyperterminal that you need to completely close down the application for each speed change. Others may comment from experience. BTW Do you have a SmartNet service contract on that box? -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VERY strange 2621 behavior [7:6636] This is exceptionally strange We just received a used 2621 running 12.0(7)T. Initially it booted just fine and we got a prompt. While in priveleged mode we did a show run and intertwined with the output was a portion of a message. The readable portion said something about environment write to NVRAM failed. We saw this three or four times. So, after poking around a bit we did a reload. During the reload we saw the error again. Toward the end of the reload we received a warning message that said something like this: This action will disable password recovery. Be sure that you have alternatives to password recovery before continuing. Continue with operation [yes/no]? I have absolutely no idea what that means, I have never seen anything like it before. We answered no, of course. At this point the router locked up and it appears that the console baud rate has changed but so far we're unable to figure out what it changed to. I've rebooted the router several times to no avail. Nothing but gibberish on my terminal screen. Any thoughts? I've searched CCO and have yet to see anything about this behavior yet. Thanks, John Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6763t=6636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 506 [7:6540]
That is what Cisco told me, that the 506 will support 4 VPN tunnels (to another PIX or router) and NO end user VPN tunnels. You would need the 515 to accomplish that. Also, last I heard, the Cisco VPN client is not supported on W2K as of yet. Nathan -Original Message- From: Rick Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 506 [7:6540] I was told today that the PIX 506 can only support 4 VPN tunnels. It this true and does it include remote access users. I just sold a customer a 506 and he wants to connect 10 salesman to it that have laptop computers. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6766t=6540 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 2500 Power Supply [7:6767]
Does anyone know of a good source for a replacement ps for a 2500 series router? TIA Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6767t=6767 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6768]
Stop squabbling you lot or we'll put the lot of you in a office without Windows even X. K - Original Message - From: bholtz02 To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6765] An interesting spin on embracing any technology, OS's included, with quasi-religious zealotry lives here: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/24/160210mode=thread - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6749] Where did we get this guy? Not a cult just part of the family. Think about that one. Don - Original Message - From: Arumugam Sundarum To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6716] you are talking bullshit man.. A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems. They simply accept as if they are part of the family. This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!! rgds. UNIX to the world -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6641] Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun guys hate the hp guys and so on. Linux is a full blown cult. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6344] Because Unix is all a cult !!! The only thing worse than Unix guys, are SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, Lu Lu Sessions :o) Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P Phil - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6768t=6768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uploading IOS on 2500 via AUI [7:6687]
Certain TFTP daemons do not support file sizes over 16M. It is nothing to do with the Cisco side of things. There are now patches available for most systems. When we were kids we never thought that anyone would want to 'trivially' xfer anything as big as 16M Have a goog weekend all Dom |+--- || Alex Lee | || | || Sent by: | || nobody@groups| || tudy.com | || | || | || 01/06/2001 | || 15:31| || Please | || respond to | || Alex Lee | || | |+--- | || | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Uploading IOS on 2500 via AUI [7:6687] | | Header: Internal Use Only | | Please elaborate what do you mean by 'For IOS file greater than 16M, you can't use TFTP' ? Vincent Chong wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If you use the following to upload the IOS into your router. TFTP, FTP, RCP. I do not see any problem. Note: For IOS file greater than 16M, you can't use TFTP. TIA Vincent Sean C. Hi Group, I'm uploading a new IOS on a 2509. I've verified I have enough Ram/Flash on the 2509 for the new IOS. I have to use the available memory pumping the new IOS on, so I'm going to have to squeeze the old IOS off before doing the new upload. To do the upload, can I go through the AUI interface, via a transceiver, and use a cross-over cable attached right to the Ethernet port on my PC (assuming I use proper IP addresses)? I've done this a few times on 2600's (doing a cross-over between the 2600 Ether and my PC) but have never put a transceiver into the mix. TIA, Sean C. CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6770t=6687 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco 2500 Power Supply [7:6767]
Hi The classic used source Ebay and for new www.pacificcable.com HTH -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE Mark Rose wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anyone know of a good source for a replacement ps for a 2500 series router? TIA Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6769t=6767 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
Sure move it to one day --- Lets see we'll need to complete the network in 4 hours while knitting a blanket, learning Japanese and playing the piano with our toesthen the other 4 hours will be troubleshooting while blindfolded and wearing a nitrous oxide tank. Actually the later doesn't sound too bad :) I'd be very interested in how the format would change. MM -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] So what is everyone's take? --- Belt, Louie wrote: That is simply one possible solution. They have sent a survey out to all of the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6771t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PIX R/Unrestricted license. [7:6701]
# of simultaneous connections, # of interfaces, # of peers, etc. Unrestricted on 515 up lets you have more than 2 interfaces and allows failover (can't failover with just 2 interfaces..grin). Go about halfway down this link. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/pie_ds.htm This one has connections for 515R and UR (50K 100K) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/prodlit/pix51_ds.htm Lots more info on cisco.com if this doesn't answer your question ;) Allen - Original Message - From: Ryan Ngai Hon Kong To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: PIX R/Unrestricted license. [7:6701] Does anyone know what is the major different between restricted and unrestricted in PIX licensing? What's the maximum session in restricted license as compare with unrestricted? Best wishes, Ryan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6773t=6701 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Private VLAN on Cat2924 [7:6572]
The ideal solution is to make them in separate subnets. A slightly less elegant solution is to add a route to the hosts with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.255 with a destination of the router. -Original Message- From: Tay Chee Yong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Private Vlan on Cat2924 [7:6572] Hi all, I am currently configuring 2 protected ports on a Catalyst 2924 to allow them to talk to each other with the help of a Cisco router. My understanding of the protected port on the catalyst switch is that, host on a protected port is not able to communication with another host on another protected port. But a protected host is able to talk to a non-protected port host, and vice versa. Now, I would like the protected host to talk to the other protected host via the non-protected host (Cisco router). How should I go about do it?? Current configuration: ! version 12.0 no service pad service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Switch ! ip subnet-zero ! interface FastEthernet0/1 description Connection to PC 1 duplex half speed 10 port protected spanning-tree portfast ! interface FastEthernet0/2 description Connection to PC 2 duplex half speed 10 port protected spanning-tree portfast ! interface FastEthernet0/3 description Connection to Cisco router duplex half speed 10 spanning-tree portfast Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5.2)XU, MAINTENANCE IN TERIM SOFTWARE Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Mon 17-Jul-00 17:35 by ayounes Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base: 0x00301F3C ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900XL boot loader Switch uptime is 4 hours, 7 minutes System returned to ROM by power-on System image file is flash:c2900XL-c3h2s-mz-120.5.2-XU.bin cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with 8192K/1024K byte s of memory. Processor board ID FAB0507U2T5, with hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software Cluster command switch capable Cluster member switch capable 24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Base ethernet MAC Address: 00:05:32:7B:BC:80 Motherboard assembly number: 73-3382-08 Power supply part number: 34-0834-01 Motherboard serial number: FAB050733U4 Power supply serial number: DAB045055RB Model revision number: A0 Motherboard revision number: C0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN System serial number: FAB0507U2T5 Configuration register is 0xF Please assist. Thanks. Regards, Cheeyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6774t=6572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 506 [7:6540]
The PIX 506 will support client VPN tunnels using the Cisco client software... only up to 4. It doesn't matter if they're site to site or client type tunnels. Cory -Original Message- From: Richie, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX 506 [7:6540] That is what Cisco told me, that the 506 will support 4 VPN tunnels (to another PIX or router) and NO end user VPN tunnels. You would need the 515 to accomplish that. Also, last I heard, the Cisco VPN client is not supported on W2K as of yet. Nathan -Original Message- From: Rick Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 506 [7:6540] I was told today that the PIX 506 can only support 4 VPN tunnels. It this true and does it include remote access users. I just sold a customer a 506 and he wants to connect 10 salesman to it that have laptop computers. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6775t=6540 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco 2500 Power Supply [7:6767]
Try eBay. Search on cisco +power supply -Original Message- From: Mark Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco 2500 Power Supply [7:6767] Does anyone know of a good source for a replacement ps for a 2500 series router? TIA Mark Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6776t=6767 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
I passed CIT last week with around an 800 so I will tell you some things that I wish I had known better than I did. First I should have studied everything about how a catalyst works and switches packets and secondly I should have learned every single detail about ISDN. HTH Ben, CCNP --- Ronny Jonathan wrote: Hi Andrew, Congratulation for you success. I am going to go for CIT next week. Do you have any tips and suggestion about the exam ? Regards, Ronny - Original Message - From: Andrew Larkins To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725] I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Group Limited Tel : +27 11 800 9467 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6777t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
I dunno...in real life it's quite the same. Working all day, suddenly the network goes down and you've got to get it up ASAP. It'll be harder, but probably more realistic. Also you probably have the whole network scheme fresh in your mind to make it easier to troubleshoot. Just my opinion (not 2 cents...I still keep all of those and am waiting for my checks.) Allen - Original Message - From: ; Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor) To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] Sure move it to one day --- Lets see we'll need to complete the network in 4 hours while knitting a blanket, learning Japanese and playing the piano with our toesthen the other 4 hours will be troubleshooting while blindfolded and wearing a nitrous oxide tank. Actually the later doesn't sound too bad :) I'd be very interested in how the format would change. MM -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] So what is everyone's take? --- Belt, Louie wrote: That is simply one possible solution. They have sent a survey out to all of the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6780t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 506 [7:6540]
I stand corrected. This seems to contradict what I was told by Cisco last time I asked, but Mr. Stull is correct. Sorry for the confusion. Nathan -Original Message- From: Stull, Cory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:09 AM To: 'Richie, Nathan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX 506 [7:6540] The PIX 506 will support client VPN tunnels using the Cisco client software... only up to 4. It doesn't matter if they're site to site or client type tunnels. Cory -Original Message- From: Richie, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX 506 [7:6540] That is what Cisco told me, that the 506 will support 4 VPN tunnels (to another PIX or router) and NO end user VPN tunnels. You would need the 515 to accomplish that. Also, last I heard, the Cisco VPN client is not supported on W2K as of yet. Nathan -Original Message- From: Rick Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 506 [7:6540] I was told today that the PIX 506 can only support 4 VPN tunnels. It this true and does it include remote access users. I just sold a customer a 506 and he wants to connect 10 salesman to it that have laptop computers. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6779t=6540 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unsubscribe [7:6781]
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Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
The survey was rather interesting. They also mentioned groupstudy and ccbootcamp! :) Personally, I think it should stay a 2-day lab and they should keep it just the way it is. Here's the questions they asked (compressed to save space): Survey Start 1. What do you value most about the CCIE process? 2. Is there something we could do to increase the program's value to you? If so, what? 3. Do you feel Cisco could improve the certification process? If yes, what? 4. What is the one thing that the CCIE program needs? 5. When you achieved your CCIE certification, you were awarded a plaque. Is this plaque important to you? 6. Would receiving only the paper certificate mean the same thing to you? Why or why not? 7. Would you support a decision to change the CCIE lab exam duration to one day if it was as difficult or more difficult than the present two day lab exam? Why or why not? 8. Which of these methods would have been acceptable to you as a candidate during your lab exam? Please place an 'X' in front of each method that you find believe would have been acceptable. __a. Proctor and equipment on site with you __b. Proctor located remotely, able to answer questions on-line/through web-cam __c. Several proctors located remotely, and any one of them could answer questions __d. Equipment located remotely If any of these possibilities would not have been acceptable to you, please explain why. 9. What is your impression of the current difficulty level for CCIE exams? Please place an 'X' in front of just one option. __a. Too difficult __b. Just right __c. Not difficult enough 10. What do you think of web sites such as groupstudy and ccbootcamp? 11. While you were preparing for your CCIE certification, what resource/method of study did you find most useful? 12. Have you ever used an on-line practice lab for your CCIE lab exam preparations? 13. Do you feel that there is enough CCIE level Cisco Press literature to prepare candidates for the CCIE exam and recertification exams? If no, what do you believe are the weak areas? 14. Do you currently participate in on-line technical communities? If yes, what motivates you to contribute your time and knowledge to these communities? -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Optimized Systems Inc 248-299-7789 cisco hardware: www.optsys.net CCIE Wanna BE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6782t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
stick a broom up my ar*e, and I'll sweep the floor at the same time - Original Message - From: ; Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor) To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] Sure move it to one day --- Lets see we'll need to complete the network in 4 hours while knitting a blanket, learning Japanese and playing the piano with our toesthen the other 4 hours will be troubleshooting while blindfolded and wearing a nitrous oxide tank. Actually the later doesn't sound too bad :) I'd be very interested in how the format would change. MM Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6783t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6784]
cool link - Original Message - From: bholtz02 To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6765] An interesting spin on embracing any technology, OS's included, with quasi-religious zealotry lives here: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/24/160210mode=thread - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6749] Where did we get this guy? Not a cult just part of the family. Think about that one. Don - Original Message - From: Arumugam Sundarum To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6716] you are talking bullshit man.. A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems. They simply accept as if they are part of the family. This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!! rgds. UNIX to the world -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6641] Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun guys hate the hp guys and so on. Linux is a full blown cult. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6344] Because Unix is all a cult !!! The only thing worse than Unix guys, are SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, Lu Lu Sessions :o) Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P Phil - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6784t=6784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reg: CCNP Tests [7:6785]
Hi everyone, I'm a bit confused on the foundation 2.0 test in that it says it includes all the three other tests BSCN BCMSN BCRAN Now it says it lasts for 2 hrs and 45 min. but it does not tell me how many questions in each of these do i need to answer. Also could you tell me if its wise to go in for the foundation course or is it better to do it piecemeal. Would welcome any suggestions Jayant Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6785t=6785 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Uploading IOS on 2500 via AUI [7:6687]
A crossover cable and a transceiver work just fine. Keep in mind that 2500s run from Flash so you'll have to do the IOS update from Router(boot)# mode. Router#config t router(config)# config-register 0x2101 router(config)# Ctrl-Z router# reload answer No to writing changes to NVRAM unless you have changed something other than the config-register It will reboot as: router(boot) router(boot) en router(boot) password router(boot)# router(boot)# copy tftp flash When it is done copying the image and doing the checksum test change the config-register back to 0x2102 and reload. Don't write changes to NVRAM. You may want to do a show flash all to see your image listed. -Original Message- From: Sean C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Uploading IOS on 2500 via AUI [7:6687] Hi Group, I'm uploading a new IOS on a 2509. I've verified I have enough Ram/Flash on the 2509 for the new IOS. I have to use the available memory pumping the new IOS on, so I'm going to have to squeeze the old IOS off before doing the new upload. To do the upload, can I go through the AUI interface, via a transceiver, and use a cross-over cable attached right to the Ethernet port on my PC (assuming I use proper IP addresses)? I've done this a few times on 2600's (doing a cross-over between the 2600 Ether and my PC) but have never put a transceiver into the mix. TIA, Sean C. CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6786t=6687 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719]
A distinct T-shirt would be one way to identify one another. Let's reopen the Groupstudy T-shirt thread. Someone suggested that we create a T-shirt design and then make it available to members. There was some activity - but no conclusion. Let me submit a word picture of a suggested design: Room in home. Through window moon can be seen - it's late at night. Calendar on wall has two dates circled in red - labeled LAB. Frantic but exhausted candidate is typing on keyboard. Rack of routers behind. AGS+ on floor with snoozing cat atop. Scattered books with first names of known authors on covers. Spouse in nightgown standing at bedroom door - arms folded - looking impatient. There should be versions for male and female GroupStudy members. Any thoughts? Yes, the cat's name is Clifford. -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] Networkers L.A. is in a few short weeks. I'll be there, probably wishing everyone would turn the air conditioning up. Is anyone else from the list attending? Enough interest to put together a gathering on evening? Perhaps Sunday, before we get too caught up in the week's events -- assuming most folks are arriving early to attend a power session. Any ideas on how to decorate our nametags to show we're part of the elite GroupStudy following? (Following what, I know not, but I suspect it's a trail of Howard's bad jokes). -jon- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6787t=6719 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VoIP QoS [7:6586]
Amit, I found this extremely useful document on CCO awhile back. It covers a wide variety of QOS for voice issues, including descriptions and sample configs. Great stuff... http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/intsolns/qosvoip.htm Rik Amit Gupta wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everybody, I have configured the following parameters on the serial interface for VoIP.The quality of the calls is not very good during working hours you can feel some delay/small interruptions while using it. interface serial 0 ip tcp header-compression iphc-format no ip mroute-cache no fair-queue ip rtp header-compression iphc-format ip rtp priority 16384 16383 64 Could anybody suggest any other alternative to improve the quality. Will removing the compression help ? Do I need to have something like Link Fragmentation and Interleaving configured. Thanks Amit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6788t=6586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6790]
What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? Jim Dixon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6790t=6790 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed of a serial interface [7:6645]
Show controllers gives a received clockrate. Thanks -Nate STRAND Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How do you tell the actual speed of a serial interface. I know it is not the BW command and there is no clock rate set. Is there a command? Thanks, Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6789t=6645 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manchester symbols - addendum [7:6692]
Here's a paragraph from Gigabit Ethernet, (Kadambi, Crayford, and Kalkunte Prentice Hall 1988), Manchester encoded data is used for data transmission across the AUI (and across all of the common media currently defined for the 802.3 networks at data rates of 10 Mb/s). Each bit of information is converted into a bit-symbol, which in turn is divided into two halves. During the first half of the bit-symbol, the representation is the compliment of the data bit being encoded, and during the second half of the bit-symbol, the representation is identical to the data bit value. In this way, a transition is guaranteed in the center of every bit-symbol, hence clock and data information are encoded into a single serial representation. Manchester encoding/decoding is performed in the PLS sublayer. Is this any help? Shawn - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Manchester symbols - addendum [7:6692] One other thought. The term symbol sometimes gets used for non-data values. For example, Token Ring has a j and k symbol used in the starting and ending delimiters. These are intentional violations of differential manchester encoding. I haven't heard that Ethernet has anything like that when manchester encoding is used, but it might. Priscilla At 07:25 PM 5/31/01, hal9001 wrote: Thanx for that! karl - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: hal9001 ; Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Manchester symbols [7:6655] The original 10-Mbps Ethernet II and 802.3 standards use Manchester encoding for all media types. Manchester encoding specifies that a bit period is divided into two equal intervals and there is always a transition from either high to low or low to high in the middle of the bit period. A binary zero is high first and then low. A binary one is low first and then high. I haven't heard these called symbols, but perhaps your reference calls them symbols. Priscilla At 07:09 PM 5/31/01, hal9001 wrote: Thanx for that any idea about the symbols? Karl - Original Message - From: Fred Ingham To: hal9001 ; Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Manchester symbols [7:6655] Manchester encoding is used on 10 Mbps Ethernet, Differential Manchester encoding is used on token ring. Fred. hal9001 wrote: Something to do with Ethernet Encoding I fink...anyone else? Karl - Original Message - From: g_study To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:07 PM Subject: Manchester symbols [7:6655] What are Manchester symbols? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6791t=6692 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719]
I think Daniel should start doing a comic strip for group study. All in favor say aye.:) I wouldn't mind a groupstudy t-shirt. But not a cheap one so I don't look like the comic-book store guy on the Simpsons... -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] A distinct T-shirt would be one way to identify one another. Let's reopen the Groupstudy T-shirt thread. Someone suggested that we create a T-shirt design and then make it available to members. There was some activity - but no conclusion. Let me submit a word picture of a suggested design: Room in home. Through window moon can be seen - it's late at night. Calendar on wall has two dates circled in red - labeled LAB. Frantic but exhausted candidate is typing on keyboard. Rack of routers behind. AGS+ on floor with snoozing cat atop. Scattered books with first names of known authors on covers. Spouse in nightgown standing at bedroom door - arms folded - looking impatient. There should be versions for male and female GroupStudy members. Any thoughts? Yes, the cat's name is Clifford. -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] Networkers L.A. is in a few short weeks. I'll be there, probably wishing everyone would turn the air conditioning up. Is anyone else from the list attending? Enough interest to put together a gathering on evening? Perhaps Sunday, before we get too caught up in the week's events -- assuming most folks are arriving early to attend a power session. Any ideas on how to decorate our nametags to show we're part of the elite GroupStudy following? (Following what, I know not, but I suspect it's a trail of Howard's bad jokes). -jon- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6792t=6719 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6793]
Wow, this mailing list sure attracts all kinds. Can we end this topic now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6790] What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? Jim Dixon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6793t=6793 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6794]
You think ATM's run on NT? If that were true than there would be a reboot button on every ATM for customer convenience. :) I always thought that behind every good ATM was a better Osborne ExecII? Oh well what a sheltered life I live -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6790] What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? Jim Dixon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6794t=6794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Transparent Bridging end-to-end ping woes !!! [7:6795]
Hi group, I have a lab setup with 2 routers connected via a serial link. no ip routing is configured on both. I have 2 w/stations connected to Bridge 1 and Bridge 2 respectively. The routers are 2500 series and their serial ports and eth ports are in bridge group 1. w/s 1 can ping local eth interface of bridge 1 and can ping serial interface of bridge 1. However, w/s 1 cannot ping the remote side of the serial connection to bridge 2. Bridge 1 can ping serial interface of Bridge 2 and can ping w/s 2, w/2 sends the reply to bridge 2, but bridge 2 drops the packet ? debug says not.gateway. I would appreciate any ideas as I have been stuck on this problem all week. Regards, Phil. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6795t=6795 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPexpert.net [7:6698]
Joe, I have this workbook. Its an excellent preparation guide designed according to cisco lab exam recomm..however till today this book has configuration test practices.. for tshoot they are coming out soon which will be free. It has 200+ test practices divided into 19 chapters for each different tech. almost all possible configuration final chapter is an adv.chapter where there is hetro.network scenario with no helpline its trying to challenge use to configure complete scenario. All scenario are based on single master topology..incl. 1 cd which has sample configs for each chapters. one can easily spend their 500 hrs to practice on this setup configs.. thanks, rahul. - Original Message - From: Joe Morabito To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: IPexpert.net [7:6698] Has anyone purchased their workbook? Is it any good? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6796t=6698 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6797]
Jason - By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your Enterprise to succeed. Good luck in that endevour! In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM server to Linux. The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money instead. Oh.. not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an open source OS rather than an M$ one... Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it with a GUI so everyone could write configs for routers. Sounds like a grand idea... Regards, Kelly What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? Jim Dixon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A). Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6797t=6797 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free CSIDS v2 BETA [7:6800]
I'm not sure if I already mentioned it, but Cisco is holding a free Beta exam for the CSIDS v2 (w/ IDS CSPM): Take the CSIDS 2.0 Beta Exam for FREE! For a short time, the beta exam for IDSPM (Intrusion Detection System with Policy Manager) will be available to take at no charge. This test is based on the newest version of CSIDS (2.0) and is one of the exams for Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification. The beta exam number is 9E1-572. The test will be available from June 1 through June 15, 2001.You can register for this beta exam beginning on June 1, 2001. This exam is open to everyone, so please share this wonderful opportunity within your organizations. How to Register - Starting June 1, register for the exam on-line through Prometric (http://www.2test.com) or Vue (http://www.vue.com) referencing beta exam name: IDSPM (Intrusion Detection System with Policy Manager) or exam number: 9E1-572. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6800t=6800 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6798]
Dude.. everyone's been having a little fun here with this NT -vs- Unix things then someone's gotta get all defensive about it To assume that any OS or software package is finished is purely naive... to assume anything can be perfect is the same. To assume that good things can't be written in a month, or to assume they take years to write is the same. To assume that WinNT/2K are great OSes because they're based on a working OS is the same. If you trust your ATM machine to Windows, it's the same. I've been a NT server admin for years (actually I'm not now because I'm in networking =), and I've seen NT run stable before.. but I don't think anyone can argue that WinNT is as flexible and stable as Unix. I mean, how many times do you know of an ISP that simply recompiled some routines into the NT kernal so that all of their usage details and systems information was collected in a nice neat package. Not gonna happen. Unix gives that flexibility. Do they release service packs and patches and security patches on a weekly basis for Unix like they do for NT? Does Unix have a monopolistic creator that tries to violate everyone's privacy at every turn? I don't know why you wouldn't trust Unix on your ATM considering most of the banks, etc are using Unix or IBM AIX or something.. way more than NT.. get a clue Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? Jim Dixon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6799]
At this rate, you would think the designers of both unix and NT operating systems were on this list... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Krabbenschmidt Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6794] You think ATM's run on NT? If that were true than there would be a reboot button on every ATM for customer convenience. :) I always thought that behind every good ATM was a better Osborne ExecII? Oh well what a sheltered life I live -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6790] What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? Jim Dixon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B ABSTRACT B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This technical report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). Ken Thompson The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of the B language, the predecessor of C. In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with a note that read Love, ken. Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without a last name Ken refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without last name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be Unix!. There was some joking about eunichs as well. Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family in San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it Space Travel?). -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6675] Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset. The multi-tasking multi-threaded functions were dropped because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. DOS clowns. UNIX dweebs. NT geeks. Cisco nerds. Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? - susan Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there an English word that comes to mind? The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A). _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6799t=6799 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
I filled out my survey and told them I wanted it to stay a two day lab - and if anything - make it tougher. The explosion of materials available to help people get though the written and prepare for the lab has taken some of the challenge out of the process in my opinion. I would prefer they keep it a 2 day lab, make it mean as h*** and keep the prestige in the cert. I also told them I did not want them to stop issuing the medal for those who succeed. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: Belt, Louie; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Sent: 6/1/01 8:23 AM Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] So what is everyone's take? --- Belt, Louie wrote: That is simply one possible solution. They have sent a survey out to all of the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6801t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719]
I think we should name the cat Kingsford, in honor of Priscilla. I feel like a stalker now. Don't worry Priscilla, I remember you had your cat's picture on your website. I like the shirt idea. How true is that design? - Tim -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] A distinct T-shirt would be one way to identify one another. Let's reopen the Groupstudy T-shirt thread. Someone suggested that we create a T-shirt design and then make it available to members. There was some activity - but no conclusion. Let me submit a word picture of a suggested design: Room in home. Through window moon can be seen - it's late at night. Calendar on wall has two dates circled in red - labeled LAB. Frantic but exhausted candidate is typing on keyboard. Rack of routers behind. AGS+ on floor with snoozing cat atop. Scattered books with first names of known authors on covers. Spouse in nightgown standing at bedroom door - arms folded - looking impatient. There should be versions for male and female GroupStudy members. Any thoughts? Yes, the cat's name is Clifford. -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] Networkers L.A. is in a few short weeks. I'll be there, probably wishing everyone would turn the air conditioning up. Is anyone else from the list attending? Enough interest to put together a gathering on evening? Perhaps Sunday, before we get too caught up in the week's events -- assuming most folks are arriving early to attend a power session. Any ideas on how to decorate our nametags to show we're part of the elite GroupStudy following? (Following what, I know not, but I suspect it's a trail of Howard's bad jokes). -jon- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6802t=6719 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Refurbished Cisco gear... [7:6803]
I need some local (DC/VA/MD) vendors of refurbished Cisco equipment. My current company is allowing me to build a dream lab to also help in conducting some monthly mentor meetings. Thanks for the info Rick Watson Network Engineer Advanced Systems Development, Inc. OUSD(Comptroller) 703.697.5710 office 800.309.7782 pager ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6803t=6803 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: IP addresses allocator / IP Management software [7:6804]
Hi, Where are looking for a software to track the IP addresses assigned in a co-lo environment to make easier the assignment of the IP addresses and provisioning of new customers. Do you know about a product to address this situation? Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6804t=6804 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP addresses allocator / IP Management software [7:6804]
There are lots: Lucent's QIP Checkpoint's NetID Cisco's Network Registrar There are others as well, but those three are the major players (IMHO). Irwin -Original Message- From: Riera, Alvaro (4152) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: IP addresses allocator / IP Management software [7:6804] Hi, Where are looking for a software to track the IP addresses assigned in a co-lo environment to make easier the assignment of the IP addresses and provisioning of new customers. Do you know about a product to address this situation? Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6805t=6804 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Refurbished Cisco gear... [7:6803]
check out: http://mail1.inaxx.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Equipment_List irwin -Original Message- From: Watson, Rick, CTR, OUSDC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Refurbished Cisco gear... [7:6803] I need some local (DC/VA/MD) vendors of refurbished Cisco equipment. My current company is allowing me to build a dream lab to also help in conducting some monthly mentor meetings. Thanks for the info Rick Watson Network Engineer Advanced Systems Development, Inc. OUSD(Comptroller) 703.697.5710 office 800.309.7782 pager ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6806t=6803 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BGP/RR: In which case we have loop without using CLUSTER_LIST. [7:6807]
Hi, I read the Halabi's book and RFC1966, still could not understand why without CLUSTER_LIST we may run into the problem of having routing loop inside the AS. According to the rule, RR should be full-meshed between all non-client neighbors, when a client route is redistributed to them by IBGP, these neighbors will not redistribute to others, except to its client if it is a RR also. So in which case we will receive the client route from outside of cluster? Am I missing something? Thanks, Jerry _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6807t=6807 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719]
I think we should name the cat Kingsford, in honor of Priscilla. I wonder if Kingsford and Clifford would like one another? I feel like a stalker now. Don't worry Priscilla, I remember you had your cat's picture on your website. I like the shirt idea. How true is that design? - Tim -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] A distinct T-shirt would be one way to identify one another. Let's reopen the Groupstudy T-shirt thread. Someone suggested that we create a T-shirt design and then make it available to members. There was some activity - but no conclusion. Let me submit a word picture of a suggested design: Room in home. Through window moon can be seen - it's late at night. Calendar on wall has two dates circled in red - labeled LAB. Frantic but exhausted candidate is typing on keyboard. Rack of routers behind. AGS+ on floor with snoozing cat atop. Scattered books with first names of known authors on covers. Spouse in nightgown standing at bedroom door - arms folded - looking impatient. There should be versions for male and female GroupStudy members. Any thoughts? Yes, the cat's name is Clifford. -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] Networkers L.A. is in a few short weeks. I'll be there, probably wishing everyone would turn the air conditioning up. Is anyone else from the list attending? Enough interest to put together a gathering on evening? Perhaps Sunday, before we get too caught up in the week's events -- assuming most folks are arriving early to attend a power session. Any ideas on how to decorate our nametags to show we're part of the elite GroupStudy following? (Following what, I know not, but I suspect it's a trail of Howard's bad jokes). -jon- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6808t=6719 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: IPexpert.net [7:6698]
I liked the single master topology so much, I bought the company! Just kidding :) I bought the workbook yesterday online. Can't wait till it gets here. I've just started my 6-month-long router party in my dining room. Dining rooms aren't very useful for much else - I'm not much on formal dinner parties. Barbeque from down the street is as far as I go. In the early 90's I had 2 VAX 11/750s plus 3 tape drives in my dining room. But I couldn't get 220 power installed because I lived in a 100+year-old house (historic districts are usually run by persons from by-gone eras), so I gave them away to the university here. *sigh* - susan -Original Message- From: Rahul Kachalia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IPexpert.net [7:6698] Joe, I have this workbook. Its an excellent preparation guide designed according to cisco lab exam recomm..however till today this book has configuration test practices.. for tshoot they are coming out soon which will be free. It has 200+ test practices divided into 19 chapters for each different tech. almost all possible configuration final chapter is an adv.chapter where there is hetro.network scenario with no helpline its trying to challenge use to configure complete scenario. All scenario are based on single master topology..incl. 1 cd which has sample configs for each chapters. one can easily spend their 500 hrs to practice on this setup configs.. thanks, rahul. - Original Message - From: Joe Morabito To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: IPexpert.net [7:6698] Has anyone purchased their workbook? Is it any good? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6809t=6698 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
I firmly disagree that a one day combined lab would be a better method of evaluating ones knowledge of both design and troubleshooting. This is just another way of demanding one to be working in Internet time! From what I have read on this discussion group about the troubleshooting scenario is that it may not be on the same design configurations that you have completed the first day - and in fact may be a different set of configurations, which were TFTP loaded for your trouble shooting evaluation session. I am most likely one of the oldest CCIE study members monitoring this study group having just started to obtain certifications this last winter CCNA and CCNP a couple of months ago. This week I just passed the CCDA as a career specialty change move next CCDP and hopefully CCIE early next year. This is now necessary as my former telecommunications engineering management position was abolished and the company now wants and/or recognizes certifications as essential for advancement. I truly enjoy this new endeavor, however find that having to compress two days of activities, (While even making the tasks harder) with an expected shorter execution time would be a handicap for someone with a slower legacy processor (brain) and a lot more data stored in my memory to sort out (a life experience of 35 years of electronics and computer related activity). Originally even programmed in Octal on 8008 and built several Altairs with an 8080 CPU also met Bill and Paul in Albuquerque at what must have been one of the first computer fairs in 1975. I understand that time management is one of the most critical issues with the CCIE lab and think that trying to obtain the same level of candidate assessment in a one day event would not be as fair to someone like myself who is quite a bit older than an average CCIE candidate. I for one think a good nights sleep would help me to better tackle the difficult trouble shooting now required on the second day. I also think this will cheapen the presteege that a two day event engenders! What do others think? In any event I hope to be tackling this difficult and respected objective ... irrespective of how much time is allocated. Stay tuned.. Ray, CCNP, CCDA(Tuesday) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6810t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book club [7:6811]
A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could get several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books afterwards. Does anyone have the name or URL for this? Thanks Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, SCSA, MCSE Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6811t=6811 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Refurbished Cisco gear... [7:6803]
Refurbished can have a special meaning for Cisco. It means equipment that Cisco makes available for sale through Resellers who in turn buy it from Distribution houses such as Tech Data. It has a warranty and can be placed on a SmartNet service contract. If this is what you need then do a search on CCO for local resellers. Prices are less but not a great bargain. If you are looking for used equipment, there are many companies that deal in used gear. eBay is a good starting point. Look on completed auctions for pricing guidelines. Others may comment on SmartNet for this gear. If you can find a company that is going out of business, sometimes there are some real deals. Side story. I recently attended an auction. A friend asked me to bid on some 3Com routers. In size they looked like a 7507. Dual power supplies, modular cards. Interfaces were comparable to a 4500 - Ethernet, Serial, HSSI. Bought two at $35 each. -Original Message- From: Watson, Rick, CTR, OUSDC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Refurbished Cisco gear... [7:6803] I need some local (DC/VA/MD) vendors of refurbished Cisco equipment. My current company is allowing me to build a dream lab to also help in conducting some monthly mentor meetings. Thanks for the info Rick Watson Network Engineer Advanced Systems Development, Inc. OUSD(Comptroller) 703.697.5710 office 800.309.7782 pager ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6812t=6803 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6813]
Um, yes. Only more of them because there are more distro's. Watch http://packetstorm.securify.com/ Now, one of the nice things is that with *nix you don't always have to reboot after you install the changes... TTFN, Bill 'Think VMS' Pearch, Anchorage -Original Message- Do they release service packs and patches and security patches on a weekly basis for Unix like they do for NT? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6813t=6813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: IP addresses allocator / IP Management software [7:6814]
QIP and Cisco Network Registrar are a couple of products. QIP would probably be the best to look at though it does co$t. One thing you will also need to be aware of is SWIPping and/or running an RWHOIS server for the IP blocks assigned to customers.. HTH Kelly Hi, Where are looking for a software to track the IP addresses assigned in a co-lo environment to make easier the assignment of the IP addresses and provisioning of new customers. Do you know about a product to address this situation? Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6814t=6814 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any good ATM links (IISP/SSCOP) [7:6815]
Specifically looking for more information on IISP and SSCOP/AAL5 workings.. TIA, Kelly Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6815t=6815 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book club [7:6811]
yeah Carl, its www.booksonline.com/telecommunications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MIRSKY Carl Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811] A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could get several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books afterwards. Does anyone have the name or URL for this? Thanks Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, SCSA, MCSE Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6816t=6811 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6818]
www.securityfocus.com, packetstorm gets stale, not as up-to-date as Security Focus Richard Tufaro, CCNA, MCSE, GSEC Network Engineer Anda Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Pearch 06/01 3:40 PM Um, yes. Only more of them because there are more distro's. Watch http://packetstorm.securify.com/ Now, one of the nice things is that with *nix you don't always have to reboot after you install the changes... TTFN, Bill 'Think VMS' Pearch, Anchorage -Original Message- Do they release service packs and patches and security patches on a weekly basis for Unix like they do for NT? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6818t=6818 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hacking subject-DDOS [7:6817]
Excellent article about IRC Bots... For those that ACLs the hell out of your routers... Read up on this... http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6817t=6817 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
Forgive my cynicism, but any CCIE *would* want the lab to be tougher - they would know that any CCIEs that came along after they received their number increase the supply, thus lowering the cost of the good. ;-) I think Cisco ought to be asking companies who *hire* CCIEs what skills *they* would like to see in those who carry the CCIE certification - not the number-carrying CCIEs themselves. BJ P.S. And while I'm feeling cynical...can we please move the NT vs. UNIX nonsense to private emails or perhaps a different mail list? Thenks. - Original Message - From: Belt, Louie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] I filled out my survey and told them I wanted it to stay a two day lab - and if anything - make it tougher. The explosion of materials available to help people get though the written and prepare for the lab has taken some of the challenge out of the process in my opinion. I would prefer they keep it a 2 day lab, make it mean as h*** and keep the prestige in the cert. I also told them I did not want them to stop issuing the medal for those who succeed. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: Belt, Louie; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Sent: 6/1/01 8:23 AM Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] So what is everyone's take? --- Belt, Louie wrote: That is simply one possible solution. They have sent a survey out to all of the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions. Louie -Original Message- From: CCIE Wanna BE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing on moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't going to be easier, it's going to be harder __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6819t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820]
Soapbox on: I think this says it all and that's all's I know. (Courtesy of your friends at Brainbuzz.com) http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open Soapbox Off: Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA, Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6820t=6820 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719]
That's an eerie mental picture almost life like. My wife usually has a rolled up magazine or a frying pan in her hand when she's standing at the door. tim Tim Medley - CCNA, CCDA Network Architect VoIP Group 704-943-3615 - Phone 704-943-3660 - Fax 877-6-iReady - Helpdesk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T-shirt WAS RE: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] A distinct T-shirt would be one way to identify one another. Let's reopen the Groupstudy T-shirt thread. Someone suggested that we create a T-shirt design and then make it available to members. There was some activity - but no conclusion. Let me submit a word picture of a suggested design: Room in home. Through window moon can be seen - it's late at night. Calendar on wall has two dates circled in red - labeled LAB. Frantic but exhausted candidate is typing on keyboard. Rack of routers behind. AGS+ on floor with snoozing cat atop. Scattered books with first names of known authors on covers. Spouse in nightgown standing at bedroom door - arms folded - looking impatient. There should be versions for male and female GroupStudy members. Any thoughts? Yes, the cat's name is Clifford. -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone going to Networkers? [7:6719] Networkers L.A. is in a few short weeks. I'll be there, probably wishing everyone would turn the air conditioning up. Is anyone else from the list attending? Enough interest to put together a gathering on evening? Perhaps Sunday, before we get too caught up in the week's events -- assuming most folks are arriving early to attend a power session. Any ideas on how to decorate our nametags to show we're part of the elite GroupStudy following? (Following what, I know not, but I suspect it's a trail of Howard's bad jokes). -jon- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6821t=6719 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: IP addresses allocator / IP Management software [7:6822]
Another thing to keep in mind is your directory strategy, we're seeing a lot of our customers trying to correlate Microsoft Active Directory roll-outs with their DNS/IP Addressing strategy. Irwin -Original Message- From: Kelly Hair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: IP addresses allocator / IP Management software [7:6814] QIP and Cisco Network Registrar are a couple of products. QIP would probably be the best to look at though it does co$t. One thing you will also need to be aware of is SWIPping and/or running an RWHOIS server for the IP blocks assigned to customers.. HTH Kelly Hi, Where are looking for a software to track the IP addresses assigned in a co-lo environment to make easier the assignment of the IP addresses and provisioning of new customers. Do you know about a product to address this situation? Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6822t=6822 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book club [7:6811]
It has changed to: tcbc.booksonline.com/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/Develop/pagHome?clubId=TBCpromo=bhp-1 -5 Darren At 03:57 PM 06/01/2001 -0400, William E. Gragido wrote: yeah Carl, its www.booksonline.com/telecommunications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MIRSKY Carl Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811] A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could get several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books afterwards. Does anyone have the name or URL for this? Thanks Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, SCSA, MCSE Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Darren S. Crawford Network Systems Consultant Lucent Technologies - Sacramento email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] page via email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager: 800-467-1467 x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6823t=6811 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640]
I had to build an async interface on a 3620 not to long ago and the first number allowed me to use was Async65. Sorry Sean. At 10:00 PM 05/31/2001 -0400, Sean Young wrote: The max. number of Async-line you can have on the NM for either 2600s or 3600s is thirty-two (32). I couldn't find any NM that has 64 async-line for either 2600s or 3600s routers. Therefore, the number 65 for AUX is still a mystery to me. Sean From: Neil Schneider Reply-To: Neil Schneider To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:16:49 -0400 The 2600 series only has one NM slot, but you can buy NM modules with different numbers of ports on them. -- Neil Schneider MCT MCSE CCSI CCNP Sean Young wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... CM, I don't know where you buy the Cisco 2600s router but from what I can see in front of me, I have a Cisco 2610, Cisco 2611 and another 2621, all of them only have 1 Network Module (NM) slot. If you are referring to Cisco 3620 then I might agree with you that Cisco 3620 has 2 NM slots. Please don't give out wrong information unless you know it is accurate. Anyone else would like to comment on this one. Am I correct in this case? Regards, Sean From: Charles Manafa To: 'Sean Young ' , '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:27:29 +0100 Cisco 2600 is a modular router like the 3600, and is capable of supporting two modules. Whether or not these slots are populated, it doesn't change the tty numbering, i.e slot 0: 0-31, slot 1: 32-64 etc. As the AUX port is the last tty + 1, the AUX port is 65 on a 2600. CM -Original Message- From: Sean Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31/05/01 19:19 Subject: Can anyone shed the light on Cisco AUX port? [7:6640] I am hoping someone on the group can explain to me the following situation: I've noticed that on the Cisco 2500s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 1 (sine consoleport is on line 0). However, on Cisco 2600s platform, the AUX port is listed on line 65(console port is still at line 0). On the cisco 3640 router, if I put my FE module in slot 0, thenthe AUX port is listed on line 129. If I put my FE module in slot 3, then the AUX port is listed on line 97. I understand why that is the case on Cisco 2500s and 3600s platform, but apparently, the 2600s platform is really out of wack. Why doesn't Cisco make themconsistent on all platforms? I work for an ISP shop and it is hard for me to new network engineering folks about this especially when it involves async-lines, AS5300, Radius andTACACS (you get the point). I guess when Cisco controls about 90% market share of the router market, it really doesn't give a f___ about these things. No wonder why Juniper andAvici are kicking Cisco's ass in the carrier market because it makes the product moreuser-friendly (until it becomes just as big as Cisco then those guys will start acting arrogant). An explaination from anyone in this group is very appreciate. Sean Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Darren S. Crawford Network Systems Consultant Lucent Technologies - Sacramento email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] page via email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager: 800-467-1467 x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6824t=6640 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6825]
Although I agree with Every OS Sucks! I just want to point out that the ATMs I deal with are not Linux or NT!! There OS2.. MIRSKY Carl wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Soapbox on: I think this says it all and that's all's I know. (Courtesy of your friends at Brainbuzz.com) http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open Soapbox Off: Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA, Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6825t=6825 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
