bri [7:10377]

2001-06-29 Thread kaushalender singh

we have cisco 2620 in which we have bri card but the led of the interface
both led in not glowing.adn when we give command SH ISDN STATUS it say that
both b channel r
now means bri 0/0:1 is down and line proto is also down.If we dial from
another ta it dials and gets hooked up.plz help what can i do for this in
router .we have selected isdn switch-type basic-5ess.
thanx

kaushalender




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Re: BCRAN test....was there fill in the blank? [7:10284]

2001-06-29 Thread Oletu Hosea Godswill, CCNA.

No, I did BCRAN last week, the commands did not require you to know the
modes and you do not need to type in the modes, it was exactly like this:

For the purpose of making it clear so that many will benefit, am going into
these example question, it does not represent any exact exam question, it is
just to drive home the point this trend is generating, so that would be
writers of these exams will be better guided.

Which command is used to trigger load backup when the primary link has
reached 50% utilization and will remain up, even when the primary link
utilization decreases.

You will then be asked to click on the exhibit, where you will see things
like:

1. backup interface 50 never
2. encapsulation ppp
3. ppp authentication chap
4. framing esf
5. x25 map ip 10.98.98.25 65252525552 broadcast
6. backup load 50 never

We will then be required to type in the correct command.

Offcourse the answer you will type in this particular case will be 'backup
load 50 never' . you do not need to type:

'Router2(config-if)# backup load 50 never'

Cos there was no option like this and you are not require to do it, you do,
you got it wrong.

I wrote the BCSN on April 20 this year. In the case of BCSN you must know
the modes cos the options were like this:

1. Router#Show running-configuration
2. Router(config)#ip address 65.76.123.1 255.0.0.0
etc

In the case of BCSN you are only required to type in the number
corresponding to the correct command, ie either 1 or 3 or 4. You are not
required to they in the command itself.

Note:
Am driven the more to do this cos, I do not want anybody in this list to
make the same mistake I made when I was writing my BCSN. Because of what I
gathered before that very exam from some one, mostly cos of the near
demi-god that exam had been publicly proclaimed to be, I was so filled with
emotions, so getting there, questions like the last set above were asked,
cos of what I had gathered either in the group or elsewhere, I just type-in
the exact command as it appears in the exhibit I was shown ie something like
'Show running-configuration' instead of '1' . I had done this for about 5
very cheap questions until I realized my mistakes (then the tension had cold
down, cos I discovered that the exam was not a demi-god afterall), but you
know it is adaptative, I can't go back. I lost good 5 cheap questions. Well,
I passed with about 854.

So please, be calm, the exams are very simple, read your cisco press or any
material you are using very well. Close your pick up the pinted scheme for
that particular exam you must have downloaded from www.cisco.com or
elsewhere, look at the outline and see whether you can explain all the
topics, practice as many sample questions as possible, and you will fly at
the end of the day.

Regards.
Oletu


- Original Message -
From: Gareth Hinton 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: BCRAN testwas there fill in the blank? [7:10284]


 A friend of mine did the BCRAN at the same time as I did the BSCN a couple
 of days ago. Both of the exams used the same format. Choose from an
indexed
 list of commands.
 This still means that you may need to know the correct mode as some of the
 commands are replicated at different modes. ie. The indexed list does
 contain commands which are shown in the wrong mode.

 When I did the BCMSN 2 months ago, it didn't use this format. Anybody know
 if this has gone over to this format now?  Some of the lads in the office
 were wondering.

 Regards,

 Gaz

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 type
  in the answer or was it a choose from a bank of answers?  Will I need to
 be
  concerned what router mode the command must be typed in?
 
  Regards and thanks for your time.
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Re: my test [7:10340]

2001-06-29 Thread Oletu Hosea Godswill, CCNA.

I envy your courage, keep it up. The most important thing is to keep the
fighting spirit on. Do not quit, you will definitely win.

I had the same experience, CCNA was my first certification exams, the exam
was changed from version 1 to 2, July last year and when I was preaparing
for the test. I was reading Sybex version 1 and all that and was thinking
that the pass mark was still 755. I knew the difference a day before the
exam, there was nothing I could do at that momwnt, I went in for the exam,
what happened? I failed, got 806 and I need 812 to pass. I ran to the bank
cleared my account borrow money went back that VERY SAME day and booked for
the exam again. That day was a Thursday, I scheduled the exam for Tuesday
the week following, so short a time you might say, but at the end of that
D-day I scored 903.

So, keep ip up, you will fly.

Good luck.

Regards.
Oletu
- Original Message -
From: Jennifer Cribbs 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: my test [7:10340]


 Well people, I did not pass.  I failed my first test.

 I got 603 with 615 to pass.  I knew lack of experience would be a big
 deciding factor in my score.  I can only say, what
 I knew, I knew real well and the other things, I guessed at.

 Very very very hard test.  Much harder than the 507 and the 504 in my
 opinion.  But, I am going to try and test again in
 a couple of weeks.  Most of what was on it was networking essentials with
98
 and 95 and 2k admin thrown in with a
 few bios questions to round it off.  The network admin stuff is what
really
 threw me.

 One more point here.  If I had passed with 615, I would have quit studying
 in this area for awhile, but this way when I
 pass I will do better than 615.  This test had very unfamiliar areas on
it.

 so my score is nowpassed two, failed oneoh well

 I am going have a few drinks, take a nap and start studying again!!

 Have a great day!!
 Jennifer
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Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]

2001-06-29 Thread Mark Smith

This may be a stupid question but that's never stopped me from asking before.

At one site I have 2 UR 515's running in failover config. They are at 5.2(1)
software. I'd like to upgrade them but can only afford an absolute minimum
of down time (measured in seconds, maybe). From what I've read about the PIX
units, for failover to work, I believe each unit must be configured
identically - same hardware, OS version, configuration - or failover doesn't
work.
What my plan currently is to start by taking the standby PIX (PIX2) down and
do a 6.0.1 upgrade. I guess the question that I have is, and here comes the
stupid part, if I reconnect the two with PIX2 at 6.0.1 and PIX1 still at
5.2(1) will anything bad happen (my hair fall out, I contract an incurable
STD, smoke come from either/both of the boxes)? Assuming that nothing
horrible happens, when I take the PIX1 box down to upgrade it will PIX2 (now
on a different OS version) detect that the hot PIX has dropped offline and
come up as in failover? If it won't on it's own can I do a failover active
or a similar command to force PIX2 to become active? Will the children play
well together again after I do a 6.0.1 upgrade on PIX1? Or will I have to
bring PIX2 down, upgrade it (while PIX1 is still up) and then bring PIX1
down (leaving PIX2 down), upgrade it and then bring both back up together
once they are on the same OS version level? I realize that with a laptop
that has TFTP server software connected to PIX1 and has the pix601.bin image
on it the upgrade process doesn't take long. But if I choose the last method
of taking both boxes down that, by the time that cables are switched around
as required, box(es) are rebooted, bring the 2nd box up in monitor mode,
copy the image, reboot, reconnect failover cabling (as needed), the process
would probably measured in minutes of total down time before both would be
back online. That might as well be days as far as my bosses are concerned.
Just looking for alternatives.
Thanks for any advice/experience/thoughts. Sorry if this doesn't belong in
studygroup.com. I just know that there's a lot of experience and common
sense here.

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Re: CCIE equipment [7:10365]

2001-06-29 Thread EA Louie

tsk tsk...

shortage of token ring there, unless you're planning on putting 2 T/R and 1
Eth in your 4000 (SRB/DLSw and SR/TLB)

To be prepared for the lab, you really need to have routers that allow you
to do both bridging and routing, and as has been suggested to me, multi-LAN
interface routers are the best way to go - look at the CCIE Certification
web page at http://www.cisco.com

They pretty much lay out the equipment that you'll see in the lab.

I've been listening to the tapes on the CCIE Lab from Networkers last year,
and the proctors and speakers all stress the importance of
1.  Learning the concepts of the different protocols
2.  Knowing how those concepts translate into Cisco commands
3.  Practicing those commands and learning the effect of them
4.  Being able to issue those commands in a timed environment

-e-

- Original Message -
From: Jerel Howell 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: CCIE equipment [7:10365]


 I'm looking at configuring a router package for studying for my CCIE. I
was
 curious as to what you all would recommend. I've had the following package
 recommended to me already, and I was wondering if it would work fine.

 1 Cisco 4000 router
 1 Cisco 2511 router
 2 Cisco 2501 routers
 1 Cisco 2502 router
 1 Cisco Catalyst 5000 switch

 and of course at least 2 computers to network to all this.

 An emailed response would be great, and thanks in advance for this!




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Re: CCIE equipment [7:10365]

2001-06-29 Thread Brian

Got ISDN and/or DDR?

Bri

- Original Message -
From: EA Louie 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE equipment [7:10365]


 tsk tsk...

 shortage of token ring there, unless you're planning on putting 2 T/R and
1
 Eth in your 4000 (SRB/DLSw and SR/TLB)

 To be prepared for the lab, you really need to have routers that allow you
 to do both bridging and routing, and as has been suggested to me,
multi-LAN
 interface routers are the best way to go - look at the CCIE Certification
 web page at http://www.cisco.com

 They pretty much lay out the equipment that you'll see in the lab.

 I've been listening to the tapes on the CCIE Lab from Networkers last
year,
 and the proctors and speakers all stress the importance of
 1.  Learning the concepts of the different protocols
 2.  Knowing how those concepts translate into Cisco commands
 3.  Practicing those commands and learning the effect of them
 4.  Being able to issue those commands in a timed environment

 -e-

 - Original Message -
 From: Jerel Howell
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:33 PM
 Subject: CCIE equipment [7:10365]


  I'm looking at configuring a router package for studying for my CCIE. I
 was
  curious as to what you all would recommend. I've had the following
package
  recommended to me already, and I was wondering if it would work fine.
 
  1 Cisco 4000 router
  1 Cisco 2511 router
  2 Cisco 2501 routers
  1 Cisco 2502 router
  1 Cisco Catalyst 5000 switch
 
  and of course at least 2 computers to network to all this.
 
  An emailed response would be great, and thanks in advance for this!




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CSE also updated? [7:10383]

2001-06-29 Thread Eko W

partner program updated also exam for cse... ? anyone can tell ?

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/765/partner_programs/certification/


regards,

ekow




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weird BGP question [7:10384]

2001-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

Here's a weird BGP question I got today.  Take a standard
dual-homed site using BGP to connect to two upstreams.  Is it possible
to get BGP to route the first 300G of traffic per month to upstream A
and the rest to upstream B?  I'm told it's done all the time, but
somehow I doubt it.

 Before the famous question gets asked, the problem being solved is
cost.  The idea is to not exceed the minimum cost of upstream A.




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Re: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10385]

2001-06-29 Thread Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox

Hi Tony,

HmmmWhen you are doing console from you laptop, did you using 9pin
female converter (Label as TERMINAL)?
Same thing's I guess you need a 25pin male converter (Label as TERMINAL)?

or some expert here may teach us self make rs232 :)



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From: Tony Zhu 
To: 'Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox' 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10375]


 Steiven,

 Thanks for the quick response. Yes it is a 25 pin female console port. Is
 that mean that I could just use the normal Cisco console cable with a
 male-to-male converter? Or I need something special?

 Kind Regards,

 Tony Zhu
 WAN/LAN Communication Specialist
 Unisys Payment Services Limited (UPSL)
 ABN 70 008 408 231
 ph:02 92098804
 fax: 02 92098809
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, 29 June 2001 4:44 PM
 To: Tony Zhu
 Subject: Re: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches
 [7:10375]


 Is that a 25pin console port? If so, I think you need a converter from
RJ45
 to RS232 FemaleI guess so ;)

 - Original Message -
 From: Tony Zhu 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:39 PM
 Subject: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10375]


  Would anyone know what kind of console cable required for very old 2900
  series cisco switches? How could I make one if I have to? I got a spare
 one
  here with 14 100MB ports, but its console port is not a usual cisco one.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Tony Zhu




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Simulation Exam [7:10386]

2001-06-29 Thread Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox

Hi Folks,

Any one know where I can get CCNA Simulation Exam Software for FREE? :)




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Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]

2001-06-29 Thread nrf

Hey all:

I have this strange situation where I cannot telnet into my router.  This is
what happens.

I am successfully running NAT (with overload), with no problem.  I can
telnet into the interface that is the inside NAT with no problem.  I can
also telnet into any non-NAT interface with no problem.  The problem occurs
when I try to telnet into the interface that is the designated outside NAT
interface.  For example, when I fire up telnet from Windows and telnet to
that outside NAT interface, it just shows that it is trying to connect, but
it never connects.

Now, I can assure you that connectivity is fine.  I can ping that interface.
People from the inside can get to the outside, with no problem.  So it's not
a routing issue, I am sure.

I have monitored what happens when I try to telnet, as I have an
access-class on the vty line that allows anything in (permit ip any any),
but is set for logging.  So I notice that telnet packets are indeed being
permitted by the access-list, meaning the telnet request is hitting the
router successfully.  On the console, I even get a message saying that the
access-list is allowing a telnet packet in.  So everything seems cool.  But
somehow the router doesn't want to acknowledge the telnet request.

Does anybody know what is up with that?




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Re: CCIE equipment [7:10365]

2001-06-29 Thread Rashid Lohiya

Hey Jerel,

You have missed out some VOIP capability and to do ISL/dot1q VLAN trunking
you will need one FE Interface on  a router.

Regards,

Rashid Lohiya
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 I'm looking at configuring a router package for studying for my CCIE. I
was
 curious as to what you all would recommend. I've had the following package
 recommended to me already, and I was wondering if it would work fine.

 1 Cisco 4000 router
 1 Cisco 2511 router
 2 Cisco 2501 routers
 1 Cisco 2502 router
 1 Cisco Catalyst 5000 switch

 and of course at least 2 computers to network to all this.

 An emailed response would be great, and thanks in advance for this!




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Re: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10389]

2001-06-29 Thread Fanglo MA

It should be standard RS232 cable.

HTH
Fanglo

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 Would anyone know what kind of console cable required for very old 2900
 series cisco switches? How could I make one if I have to? I got a spare
one
 here with 14 100MB ports, but its console port is not a usual cisco one.

 Thanks in advance.

 Tony Zhu




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Re: Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-29 Thread Phil Barker

This looks a bit dodgy, It looks like the SAPS should
be 00, 00. But the Analyser is mis-representing the
info- . 
What type of analyser is producing this decode ?
Can you send the hex version of the data ?

Regs,

Phil.
 
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
 At 01:45 AM 6/27/01, Ramesh c wrote:
 More input
 
 Today I analzsed  the network for 45 minutes of
 which 5500 packets were 
 caught of which 4100 were Broadcast(1650) and
 multicast.
 
 That's a lot, but are you capturing on a switched
 port? You will see only 
 broadcasts and packets to that port (unless you use
 SPAN).
 
 I can't understand why it says EtherType is ,
 especially since it is an 
 803.2 frame. I guess it's just trying to tell you
 that there is no 
 EtherType. But what is the SAP?
 
 One of them is in AppleTalk frame. AppleTalk routers
 multicast their 
 routing table every 10 seconds, which is a lot and
 could skew the data.
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 Does that sound any caution on my network?.
 
 The Broadcast and multicast packets header as
 follows
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 88 arrived at 11:20:55.53
 ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 89 arrived at 11:20:55.59
 ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 90 arrived at 11:20:55.64
 ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 91 arrived at 11:20:55.70
 ETHER:  Packet size = 110 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 96 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 92 arrived at 11:20:55.88
 ETHER:  Packet size = 52 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = 1:80:c2:0:0:0, (multicast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:90:ab:ec:f3:5,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 38 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 93 arrived at 11:20:55.94
 ETHER:  Packet size = 45 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = 9:0:7:ff:ff:ff, (multicast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:54:c1:7e,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 31 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype = 809B (EtherTalk (AppleTalk over
 Ethernet))
 ETHER:
 
 --
 
 On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:58:10
   Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  2100 broadcasts in 30 minutes might be OK,
 actually. Can you tell us how
  much bandwidth they are using? Can you tell us
 what percentage of the
  packets are broadcasts? A rule of thumb that
 Cisco teaches is that no more
  than 20% of your packets should be broadcasts.
 The main problem with
  broadcasts is that they interrupt station CPUs,
 but with the high-speed of
  CPUs these days, that is less of an issue.
  
  You seem to be running NetBT, which is NetBIOS
 over TCP/IP. (NetBEUI is
  NetBIOS running directly on a data-link, which is
 not what you are
  running.) NetBIOS sends lots of broadcasts. In
 this example, the server
  CDTOWER is sending a broadcast. You need to find
 out if that is necessary
  on your network or not. It seems a bit odd that
 CDTOWER is sending the
  frame directly to RND at the NetBIOS layer but to
 a broadcast address at
  the network and data-link layers. Sometimes a
 subnet mask misconfiguration
  can cause such a problem. Check CDTOWER and RND's
 configs.
  
  The last byte of a NetBIOS name tells you what
 kind of device it is.
  CDTOWER ends with x20, which means server, if I
 remember correctly. RND
  ends with 0x0 and I have forgotten what that
 means and my NetBIOS
  documentation is packed away. But you could find
 this somewhere on the Net
  or one of our esteemed colleagues probably knows.
  
  I don't recognize the other broadcast packets.
 They have an 802.3 length
  field of 0 even though there's data in the
 packet. It sounds like a bug?
  Would it be possible to find the station sending
 them (0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab)
 and
  check its configuration?
  
  Priscilla
  
  At 05:20 AM 6/26/01, Ramesh c wrote:
  I did a kind of traffic study on my network and
 here it goes
  
  1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in
 30minutes.Does that sound a 
  alarm in
  my network?
  
 

-
  2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
  57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT
 Datagram Service Type=17
  Source=CDTOWER[20]
  
  ETHER:  - 

Newly Minted CCNP!! [7:10391]

2001-06-29 Thread David L. Blair

Thanks to the list and especially Ms. Priscilla.

I will try to relate my test knowledge without breaking the NDA.

Order of Passing  Order of Difficult for meScore
RoutingRouting 850
\
Switching Remote Access 774\
The passing score for all the tests was
Support   Support 875
/   around 700.
Remote AccessSwitching  835 /

I took Remote Access yesterday.  The testing method is vastly different from
the other three.  Tons of exhibits!!! Unlike the other test where you might
type in a few commands or pick a command and router mode from a list.  Cisco
decided to change things a bit.  You still have a list of commands with no
router mode, but you must type in the command into the answer field.  So not
only do need to know the answer, but NOW accurate typing is required.
Know the ports of the routers mentioned in the CiscoPress book for Remote
access.


All and all I am glad it is over.  I just melted a hole in my VISA card
buying books for my CCIE Written and Lab studies.  FYI:  cheap books try
www.bestbookbuys.com.  This website is the AltaVista or Google of book
sites.  It searches 10-20 book sites for the best price including shipping
charges.

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Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

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Re: CCIE written blueprints. Lets pass this blueprint around [7:10392]

2001-06-29 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

It wouldn't be a violation to share information about each topic. But it 
would be an awful lot of work. It's exactly what sites like 
www.certificationzone.com are doing. But note that each topic, for 
example,  OSPF, is one or more 25-page papers, 30 study questions and 
answers, and one or more lab scenarios. And that's what it takes to learn 
this stuff. (Actually certificationzone teaches you a bit more than you 
need to know, but even if they didn't, it would be lot of information.)

Priscilla

At 04:30 PM 6/28/01, Allen May wrote:
Prepare to be blasted for NDA violations ;)

- Original Message -
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: CCIE written blueprints. Lets pass this blueprint around tell
[7:10310]


  I was studying the Blueprints for the 350-001 CCIE written test and a =
  thought popped into my head. If everyone who was trying to pass this =
  exam would pull together and answer the Blueprint objectives it would =
  really benefit everyone.=20
 
  I have answered a couple of the objectives. Lets pass this blueprint =
  around tell we get all of the objectives answered.
 
  =20
1.. Cisco Device Operation=20
  1.. Commands: show, debug Infrastructure: NVRAM, Flash, Memory  =
  CPU, file system, config reg
  2.. Operations: file transfers, password recovery,=20
  3.. Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP), accessing devices, =
  security (passwords)=20
 
1.. General Networking Theory=20
  1.. OSI model: Layer comparisons, functions
  2.. General Routing Concepts: Split horizon, difference between =
  switching and routing, summarization, Link State vs. Distance Vector, =
  loops, tunneling
  3.. Protocol comparisons: Internet Protocol (IP) vs. Internetwork =
  Packet Exchange (IPX), Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), User =
  Datagram Protocol (UDP), etc.
  4.. Standards: 802.x, protocol limitations
  5.. Protocol Mechanics: Windowing/Acknowledgements (ACK), =
  fragmentation, maximum transmission unit (MTU), handshaking, termination
 
1.. Bridging  LAN Switching=20
  1.. Transparent Bridging: IEEE/DEC spanning tree, translational, =
  Configuration Bridging Protocol Data Unit (BPDU), Integrated Routed and =
  Bridging (IRB), Concurrent Routing and Bridging (CRB), access lists
  2.. Source Route Bridging: Source-route translational bridging =
  (SR/TLB), source-route transparent bridging (SRT), data-link switching =
  (DLSw), remote source-route bridging (RSRB), access lists
  3.. LAN Switching: Trunking, VLAN Trunk Protocol (VTP), inter-switch
=
  link (ISL), Virtual LANs (VLANS),
  4.. Fast Ether Channel (FEC) =
 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/media/lan/ether/channel/tech/f=
  etec_wp.htm
  5.. Cisco Discovery Protocol (CDP)
  6.. Cisco Group Management Protocol (CGMP) When the CGMP-capable =
  router receives an IGMP control packet, it creates a CGMP packet that =
  contains the request type (either join or leave), the multicast group =
  address, and the Media Access Control (MAC) address of the host. The =
  router sends the CGMP packet to a well-known address to which all =
  Catalyst 5000 series switches listen. When a switch receives the CGMP =
  packet, the supervisor engine module interprets the packet and modifies =
  the forwarding table automatically CGMP requires Catalyst  5000 series =
  software release  2.2 or later and a network connection from the =
  Catalyst  5000 series switch to a router running CGMP. By default, CGMP =
  is disabled, and no multicast routers are configured.  Before you enable
=
  CGMP on a Catalyst  5000 series switch, you must disable IGMP snooping =
  if it is enabled, by entering the set igmp disable command. If you try =
  to enable CGMP without first disabling IGMP snooping, an error message =
  is generated.
  7.. LANE: LAN Emulation Client (LEC) LAN emulation client (LEC)-End =
  systems that supportLANE, such as network interface =
  card(NIC)-connected workstations, LAN switches with ATM uplinks (for =
  example, the Catalyst family of switches), and Cisco 7500, 7000, 4500, =
  and 4000 series routers that support ATM attachment, all require the =
  implementation of a LEC. The LEC emulates an interface to a legacy LAN =
  to the higher-level protocols. It performs data forwarding, address =
  resolution, and registration of MAC addresses with the LANE server and =
  communicates with other LECs via ATM virtual channel connections (VCCs).
=
 
  8.. LAN Emulation Server (LES) LAN emulation configuration server =
  (LECS)-The LECS maintains a   database of ELANs and the ATM addresses of
=
  the LESs that control the ELANs. It accepts queries from LECs and =
  responds with the ATM address of the LES that serves the appropriate =
  ELAN/VLAN. This database is defined and maintained by the network =
  administrator.
  9.. Broadcast and Unknown  Server (BUS) Broadcast and unknown server
=
  (BUS)-The BUS acts as a   

Re: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10393]

2001-06-29 Thread PC

m
Fanglo MA  wrote in message
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 It should be standard RS232 cable.

 HTH
 Fanglo

 Tony Zhu  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Would anyone know what kind of console cable required for very old 2900
  series cisco switches? How could I make one if I have to? I got a spare
 one
  here with 14 100MB ports, but its console port is not a usual cisco one.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Tony Zhu




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Re: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10394]

2001-06-29 Thread PC

www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2900/c2900/cugpin1.htm
Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox  wrote in message
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 Hi Tony,

 HmmmWhen you are doing console from you laptop, did you using 9pin
 female converter (Label as TERMINAL)?
 Same thing's I guess you need a 25pin male converter (Label as TERMINAL)?

 or some expert here may teach us self make rs232 :)



 - Original Message -
 From: Tony Zhu
 To: 'Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox'
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:26 PM
 Subject: RE: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches
[7:10375]


  Steiven,
 
  Thanks for the quick response. Yes it is a 25 pin female console port.
Is
  that mean that I could just use the normal Cisco console cable with a
  male-to-male converter? Or I need something special?
 
  Kind Regards,
 
  Tony Zhu
  WAN/LAN Communication Specialist
  Unisys Payment Services Limited (UPSL)
  ABN 70 008 408 231
  ph:02 92098804
  fax: 02 92098809
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steiven Poh - Jaring Mailbox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, 29 June 2001 4:44 PM
  To: Tony Zhu
  Subject: Re: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches
  [7:10375]
 
 
  Is that a 25pin console port? If so, I think you need a converter from
 RJ45
  to RS232 FemaleI guess so ;)
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tony Zhu
  To:
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:39 PM
  Subject: Console Cable for very old 2900 series Cisco switches [7:10375]
 
 
   Would anyone know what kind of console cable required for very old
2900
   series cisco switches? How could I make one if I have to? I got a
spare
  one
   here with 14 100MB ports, but its console port is not a usual cisco
one.
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
   Tony Zhu




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RE: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]

2001-06-29 Thread dragi radovanovic

You might have 12.1. something T, I don't remember it anymore. I don't think
anyone has submitted that bug at Cisco, to be honest. Try upgrading the
software. I hear 12.2 kicks ass lately.
Is that router a 3600? Because that's the one that gave me the telnet
problem.
Regards,
Dragi


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Re: hi [7:10396]

2001-06-29 Thread nagendra pratap singh

- Original Message -
From: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:06 AM
Subject: hi

http://www.geocities.com/nagendra_pratap_singh

 Todd Lammle book-pg.20. This is what he has written.
 Switches cannot translate between different media types. In other  words,
 each device connected to the switch must use an Ethernet frame type. If
you
 wanted to connect to a Token Ring switch or LAN, you would need a router
  to provide the translation services.
  1st of all, what does media types mean? Does it mean ethernet
 802.3,2,frame-relay,atm,tokenring,etc? Is LAN also a media type?
  Secondly, is the above statement saying that if you want to connect
 supposing ethernet 802.3 to token ring you cannot do it with a switch.


Well a Switch or a SWITCHED HUD is just a hub with address detection facilty
and the ability to sent the broadcast to only selected nodes depending upon
the types of packet
Also a hub is only a muliport repeater. That is a special amplifier that
cleans the signal and boosts/corrects it to the specified 0 and 1 levels.
Its is almost the same thing as a BUS network but with the facility of easy
connectors, immunity to any link going down and lights to show some status
light esp power and canle conection.

LAN is a generic term and is not related to any types such as 802.3 etc .
people had lans before it too.

Now token ring : token ring is a prop tech. the maximum limit is 16 MBPS as
compared to 100 MBps of ethernet. here is a meesage if started from n1 to
n100 then it would need 99 hops and will waste time. by contrast the switch
just does the exact thing and cuts the fat. in a token network you can think
it like a queue outside a bathroom. every one will get his or her chance but
it may take forever. In switches its like  an attached bathroom. BTW token
ring has a priority scheme too

Media type is a media type :) . Well the examples are utp/stp, coax,
IR/laser, acoustic and optic fibre ( its has some propertie of laser /ir
type)
. what may differ is a media acess contol method ( token ring, ethernet
etc). a 0 or 1  be repesented by a   ant thing like hi/lo frequency, hi/lo
voltage, 0/5 volts.
since the hubs/switches dont know much about packets except for origin and
destination ( hubs dont know anything, they are like a photocopy
machine(anything black is to be copied), switch is like a new student of the
language who has learnt the alphabet and can distinguish between stains and
letters.) so they cant translate the types

a router can strip a lot of information from the packet and can add a lot to
it too thus bypassing and freeing itself from the MAC layer. the language on
top is the same and a smile is the same in all languages. I need a pic to
show it

http://www.geocities.com/nagendra_pratap_singh

 
 *How many hosts can a port on a switch support? What topology can be
 used on each port? I guess it connot be ring. According to me it can be
 bus.
 Can it also be star and all the hosts are connected to the hub and the
 hub is connected to the switch? But this wont serve any purpose since
 the hub wont even make a collision domain.
 Normally what topology is used?

1 on each i think. hub does make a collison domain
the hub has the same coll/brdcast domain. but a switch can brdcast as a hub
but stops collision by giving dedicated access to the network

 ---
 *SwitchA has 25 ports. Now supposing hostR on port1 has to communicate
 with hostS on port2 but hostR doesnt know hostS's ip address and neither
 is hostS's ip address listed in the switch's filter table, then does the
 switch accept the packet and does a broadcast to all the 25 ports?

if its not listed then they will broadcast the packet on all active ports
except for the origin. someone will reply and will give his mac address in
the packet. this will be added to a table.

I must mention that TCP/IP is NOT THE ONLY protocol that works with
hubs/switches. they dont use IP addys or network layer addy. they use a
simpler addy (mac addy). switches/hubs are made for ethernet

http://www.geocities.com/nagendra_pratap_singh

 ---
 Now this quest.might sound silly but i just was going deep into the
 topic. Now supposing i dont want this broadcast to happen, what can i
 do? Can i just issue a command on the switch by which it would learn all

 the hosts and add them to the filter table? Or is there any other device
 i can use?

some switches an be programmed. some can be upgraded to programmable status.
your kilometerage ( mileage) may vary.
a broadcast should get a reply from any active host and thus create a mac
table.


 --
 Usually when networks are connected to routers,either the hub/switch is
 connected to the router and the nodes are connected to the hub/switch.
 Is it possible to connect a node directly to the router?
 What interface does one use in this case?
 And is this kind of arrangement ever used?

yes it is. cost ils like this router  switch hub.
the idea is that a network should keep  most 

Re: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]

2001-06-29 Thread Farhan Qazi

Kevin,

Thanks for your valuable information. I need to ask you that what IOS 
version you moved to? Considering c26xx and c36xx running DLSW, ISDN and 
OSPF what would be the best version?

Thank You

Farhan


From: Kevin Wigle 
To: Farhan Qazi , 
Subject: Re: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:03:46 -0400

I can't speak to the BRI modules having problems but they probably had to
turn the router off to insert the BRIs and then start up again.

Look at bug CSCdr51651.

When the router was rebooted, an error msg appeared on the console about
permanent address not allowed on a negotiated interface - or words to 
that
effect.

We weren't using a negotiated interface.  This probably refers to the new
command ip address dhcp (which really is a rename of ip address
negotiated)

Anyway, on reboot - the IOS would delete any secondary addresses.

We had to move to another IOS version.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: Farhan Qazi 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:06 AM
Subject: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]


  Hi All,
 
  One of our customer complained that as they inserted 2 BRI cards into
c2600,
  the secondary ip address of ethernet port disappeared !! I've heard that
  there is some bug in IOS  12.1.2.T but still not sure why that happened.
  Anybody has experienced this situation?
  any input will be appreciated.
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Farhan
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Trace result assistance [7:10398]

2001-06-29 Thread Rey Regalia

I was wondering if you can assist with this issue.  Currently, we are
supporting the Military ID card systems which we integrate to each Military
bases in both CONUS and OCONUS arena.  This one particular issue came up
when we were analyzing NAS Fallon’s NIPRnet connection.  The attached trace
result seems to indicate either routing problem or route flapping.  Can you
please validate to see if my assumption is correct so that we can assist to
resolve this problem.  Your assistance is greatly appreciated.  Thanks

Tracing the route to 164.230.130.6

1 33.254.13.2 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec *** Columbus-75 ***
2 198.26.122.9 28 msec 36 msec 32 msec  *** Columbus JIS ***
3 137.209.200.202 [AS 568] 32 msec 44 msec 32 msec *** Columbus JIS ***
4 164.220.194.33 44 msec 36 msec 88 msec
5 164.220.194.65 36 msec 36 msec 44 msec 
6 164.220.193.66 48 msec 44 msec 48 msec 
7 164.220.193.65 36 msec 36 msec 40 msec
8 164.220.193.66 44 msec 36 msec 36 msec
9 164.220.193.65 44 msec 168 msec 36 msec
10 164.220.193.66 40 msec 36 msec 36 msec
11 164.220.193.65 36 msec 40 msec 36 msec
12 164.220.193.66 44 msec 36 msec 48 msec
13 164.220.193.65 44 msec 48 msec 36 msec
14 164.220.193.66 48 msec 40 msec 36 msec
15 164.220.193.65 52 msec 40 msec 52 msec
16 164.220.193.66 40 msec 44 msec 44 msec
17 164.220.193.65 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec
18 164.220.193.66 40 msec 60 msec 44 msec
19 164.220.193.65 40 msec 44 msec 48 msec
20 164.220.193.66 52 msec 40 msec 40 msec
21 164.220.193.65 40 msec 44 msec 56 msec
22 164.220.193.66 40 msec 40 msec 44 msec
23 164.220.193.65 48 msec 44 msec 52 msec
24 164.220.193.66 48 msec 60 msec 56 msec
25 164.220.193.65 52 msec 40 msec 44 msec
26 164.220.193.66 44 msec 56 msec 48 msec
27 164.220.193.65 44 msec 48 msec 48 msec
28 164.220.193.66 52 msec 60 msec 104 msec
29 164.220.193.65 52 msec 48 msec 52 msec
30 164.220.193.66 52 msec 60 msec 52 msec




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Re: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]

2001-06-29 Thread Allen May

I think you're overdoing the solution when you have an almost zero downtime
solution ni front of you.  Just fail the first unit  let the 2nd take over.
Then with the first one offline, upgrade it  let the
failover..well...failover ;)  When done just make sure the config is correct
on the first one and do whatever it takes to get the first one back online.
I've never tried just shutting the failover box off to see if it would
trigger back to the first box with a different OS but even if that fails
just reboot the first one and it should come back up happy.  Now your
network is back the way it was with only 2 very small windows of downtime.
Upgrade 2nd PIX and hook up failover.

If you're concerned about the primary taking over again when you're trying
to upgrade, don't.  Just boot it up hitting ESC so it doesn't load the
config so you can manually give it an IP, subnet, gateway, and tftp server
address.  Without the config loaded it won't be part of the failover.

Allen

- Original Message -
From: Mark Smith 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:53 AM
Subject: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]


 This may be a stupid question but that's never stopped me from asking
before.

 At one site I have 2 UR 515's running in failover config. They are at
5.2(1)
 software. I'd like to upgrade them but can only afford an absolute minimum
 of down time (measured in seconds, maybe). From what I've read about the
PIX
 units, for failover to work, I believe each unit must be configured
 identically - same hardware, OS version, configuration - or failover
doesn't
 work.
 What my plan currently is to start by taking the standby PIX (PIX2) down
and
 do a 6.0.1 upgrade. I guess the question that I have is, and here comes
the
 stupid part, if I reconnect the two with PIX2 at 6.0.1 and PIX1 still at
 5.2(1) will anything bad happen (my hair fall out, I contract an incurable
 STD, smoke come from either/both of the boxes)? Assuming that nothing
 horrible happens, when I take the PIX1 box down to upgrade it will PIX2
(now
 on a different OS version) detect that the hot PIX has dropped offline and
 come up as in failover? If it won't on it's own can I do a failover
active
 or a similar command to force PIX2 to become active? Will the children
play
 well together again after I do a 6.0.1 upgrade on PIX1? Or will I have to
 bring PIX2 down, upgrade it (while PIX1 is still up) and then bring PIX1
 down (leaving PIX2 down), upgrade it and then bring both back up together
 once they are on the same OS version level? I realize that with a laptop
 that has TFTP server software connected to PIX1 and has the pix601.bin
image
 on it the upgrade process doesn't take long. But if I choose the last
method
 of taking both boxes down that, by the time that cables are switched
around
 as required, box(es) are rebooted, bring the 2nd box up in monitor mode,
 copy the image, reboot, reconnect failover cabling (as needed), the
process
 would probably measured in minutes of total down time before both would be
 back online. That might as well be days as far as my bosses are concerned.
 Just looking for alternatives.
 Thanks for any advice/experience/thoughts. Sorry if this doesn't belong in
 studygroup.com. I just know that there's a lot of experience and common
 sense here.

 (END stupid questions)




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ARP problem [7:10400]

2001-06-29 Thread Jacek Malinowski

I have very big problem in Ethernet on my 4500 Cisco router.
The problem is when some station are pinging my ethernet ip on the router.
In some case the station can't ping my ethernet ip.
After command clear arp cache on my Cisco router the station can ping my
ethernet ip.
I gave on the ethernet interface command arp timout 100 but it doesn't help.
My LAN is very big and have 5 3 Com switches.
I can't find the solution.




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Re: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]

2001-06-29 Thread Allen May

OK I don't have the real answer but it seems that NAT overload is on the
same IP address that you're trying to telnet to.  That would be kind of
weird for the box to receive a telnet request from  to the same IP.

No flames but I'll just throw a suggestion to try (let me know if it works).
Try settting up an access-list for NONAT when going to that IP address.
That will leave the source address alone.  And it looks like you've set up
an access-list to allow telnet to that interface already but double check
that.

I have to ask...why telnet to the outside interface from inside?

Allen


- Original Message -
From: nrf 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:01 AM
Subject: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]


 Hey all:

 I have this strange situation where I cannot telnet into my router.  This
is
 what happens.

 I am successfully running NAT (with overload), with no problem.  I can
 telnet into the interface that is the inside NAT with no problem.  I can
 also telnet into any non-NAT interface with no problem.  The problem
occurs
 when I try to telnet into the interface that is the designated outside NAT
 interface.  For example, when I fire up telnet from Windows and telnet to
 that outside NAT interface, it just shows that it is trying to connect,
but
 it never connects.

 Now, I can assure you that connectivity is fine.  I can ping that
interface.
 People from the inside can get to the outside, with no problem.  So it's
not
 a routing issue, I am sure.

 I have monitored what happens when I try to telnet, as I have an
 access-class on the vty line that allows anything in (permit ip any any),
 but is set for logging.  So I notice that telnet packets are indeed being
 permitted by the access-list, meaning the telnet request is hitting the
 router successfully.  On the console, I even get a message saying that the
 access-list is allowing a telnet packet in.  So everything seems cool.
But
 somehow the router doesn't want to acknowledge the telnet request.

 Does anybody know what is up with that?




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Re: Trace result assistance [7:10398]

2001-06-29 Thread James Haynes

It looks like a routing loop to me.

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Rey Regalia  wrote in message
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 I was wondering if you can assist with this issue.  Currently, we are
 supporting the Military ID card systems which we integrate to each
Military
 bases in both CONUS and OCONUS arena.  This one particular issue came up
 when we were analyzing NAS Fallon's NIPRnet connection.  The attached
trace
 result seems to indicate either routing problem or route flapping.  Can
you
 please validate to see if my assumption is correct so that we can assist
to
 resolve this problem.  Your assistance is greatly appreciated.  Thanks

 Tracing the route to 164.230.130.6

 1 33.254.13.2 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec *** Columbus-75 ***
 2 198.26.122.9 28 msec 36 msec 32 msec  *** Columbus JIS ***
 3 137.209.200.202 [AS 568] 32 msec 44 msec 32 msec *** Columbus JIS ***
 4 164.220.194.33 44 msec 36 msec 88 msec
 5 164.220.194.65 36 msec 36 msec 44 msec
 6 164.220.193.66 48 msec 44 msec 48 msec
 7 164.220.193.65 36 msec 36 msec 40 msec
 8 164.220.193.66 44 msec 36 msec 36 msec
 9 164.220.193.65 44 msec 168 msec 36 msec
 10 164.220.193.66 40 msec 36 msec 36 msec
 11 164.220.193.65 36 msec 40 msec 36 msec
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 13 164.220.193.65 44 msec 48 msec 36 msec
 14 164.220.193.66 48 msec 40 msec 36 msec
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 17 164.220.193.65 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec
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 29 164.220.193.65 52 msec 48 msec 52 msec
 30 164.220.193.66 52 msec 60 msec 52 msec




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Re: T1 concept? [7:10300]

2001-06-29 Thread Sam Sneed

To add to the previous postings, when someone says they have a T1 to the
Internet all they have is a T1 connection from their office that connects
them to their ISP. The ISP usually does not own the physical wire that
connects them. Usually its owned by the local phone company. If you have
have a T1 to a remote office then that same wire is a dedicated line that
runs from your office to the branch office and most likely use PPP
encapsulation. The cost of the physical connection varies according to the
distance of the line but the price the ISP charges is most likely fixed.
Frame relay conncections are cheaper because they are over a shared medium
and are a virtual connection between endpoints unlike T1 circuits which are
totally dedicated.


RJ  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hello,

 What is the difference between a frame connection to a branch office (I
have
 configured this) and T1 to the internet (I don't know how this is
 configured).
 I have heard that our company has a T1 from a (HQ)Atlanta to
 (backoffice)Tampa.
 Also they have a T1 to the internet.
 They also have numerous frame connections to small offices through out the
 country.

 When somebody says that they have a T1 to the internet what exactly does
 this mean?  What protocols (encapsulation) are they running? Is it PPP or
is
 it a frame connection? How does one connect to the ISP?

 I am sure these questions have simple answers. Can somebody please explain
 this concept?

 Thanks in advance.

 Regards,

 RJ.




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RE: Trace result assistance [7:10398]

2001-06-29 Thread Lupi, Guy

It appears that there is a problem at the 164.220.193.66 address.
164.220.193.65 is sending the packet to it, and 164.220.193.66 is sending
them back.  This problem usually appears when the 164.220.193.66 address
does not have a route to the destination, and 164.220.193.65 is set as its
default gateway, so it just sends the traffic back to its default gateway
because it does not have a route to the destination.  There can be alot of
reasons for this, but I would start at the 164.220.193.66 address.  Hope
this helps.

Guy

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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Trace result assistance [7:10398]


I was wondering if you can assist with this issue.  Currently, we are
supporting the Military ID card systems which we integrate to each Military
bases in both CONUS and OCONUS arena.  This one particular issue came up
when we were analyzing NAS Fallon's NIPRnet connection.  The attached trace
result seems to indicate either routing problem or route flapping.  Can you
please validate to see if my assumption is correct so that we can assist to
resolve this problem.  Your assistance is greatly appreciated.  Thanks

Tracing the route to 164.230.130.6

1 33.254.13.2 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec *** Columbus-75 ***
2 198.26.122.9 28 msec 36 msec 32 msec  *** Columbus JIS ***
3 137.209.200.202 [AS 568] 32 msec 44 msec 32 msec *** Columbus JIS ***
4 164.220.194.33 44 msec 36 msec 88 msec
5 164.220.194.65 36 msec 36 msec 44 msec 
6 164.220.193.66 48 msec 44 msec 48 msec 
7 164.220.193.65 36 msec 36 msec 40 msec
8 164.220.193.66 44 msec 36 msec 36 msec
9 164.220.193.65 44 msec 168 msec 36 msec
10 164.220.193.66 40 msec 36 msec 36 msec
11 164.220.193.65 36 msec 40 msec 36 msec
12 164.220.193.66 44 msec 36 msec 48 msec
13 164.220.193.65 44 msec 48 msec 36 msec
14 164.220.193.66 48 msec 40 msec 36 msec
15 164.220.193.65 52 msec 40 msec 52 msec
16 164.220.193.66 40 msec 44 msec 44 msec
17 164.220.193.65 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec
18 164.220.193.66 40 msec 60 msec 44 msec
19 164.220.193.65 40 msec 44 msec 48 msec
20 164.220.193.66 52 msec 40 msec 40 msec
21 164.220.193.65 40 msec 44 msec 56 msec
22 164.220.193.66 40 msec 40 msec 44 msec
23 164.220.193.65 48 msec 44 msec 52 msec
24 164.220.193.66 48 msec 60 msec 56 msec
25 164.220.193.65 52 msec 40 msec 44 msec
26 164.220.193.66 44 msec 56 msec 48 msec
27 164.220.193.65 44 msec 48 msec 48 msec
28 164.220.193.66 52 msec 60 msec 104 msec
29 164.220.193.65 52 msec 48 msec 52 msec
30 164.220.193.66 52 msec 60 msec 52 msec




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Re: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]

2001-06-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

It all depends on what features you need.

We were using 12.1.(2)T because of the introduction of enhanced rtr
capabilities.

I don't know off the top what we moved to, we have several hundred routers
under management - but we researched the T train for another IOS that fit
the avail memory and gave us the features we needed.  If you read the full
bug report on CCO, it suggests several IOS versions where the bug is fixed.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: Farhan Qazi 
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]


 Kevin,

 Thanks for your valuable information. I need to ask you that what IOS
 version you moved to? Considering c26xx and c36xx running DLSW, ISDN and
 OSPF what would be the best version?

 Thank You

 Farhan


 From: Kevin Wigle 
 To: Farhan Qazi , 
 Subject: Re: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]
 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:03:46 -0400
 
 I can't speak to the BRI modules having problems but they probably had to
 turn the router off to insert the BRIs and then start up again.
 
 Look at bug CSCdr51651.
 
 When the router was rebooted, an error msg appeared on the console about
 permanent address not allowed on a negotiated interface - or words to
 that
 effect.
 
 We weren't using a negotiated interface.  This probably refers to the
new
 command ip address dhcp (which really is a rename of ip address
 negotiated)
 
 Anyway, on reboot - the IOS would delete any secondary addresses.
 
 We had to move to another IOS version.
 
 Kevin Wigle
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Farhan Qazi 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:06 AM
 Subject: Secondary IP Address Disappeared !! [7:10274]
 
 
   Hi All,
  
   One of our customer complained that as they inserted 2 BRI cards into
 c2600,
   the secondary ip address of ethernet port disappeared !! I've heard
that
   there is some bug in IOS  12.1.2.T but still not sure why that
happened.
   Anybody has experienced this situation?
   any input will be appreciated.
  
  
   Thanks,
  
   Farhan
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CCNA scoring [7:10407]

2001-06-29 Thread Sam Sneed

I passed CCNA yesterday with a 946/1000(there is no integer divisible by 65
that would give me this score so I know its curved).  I did not think I was
doing well throughout the exam yet I got a good score. When it started, I
was  told that you need 849/1000 based on a score that ranges between 300
and 1000. So is this graded on a curve? If I got 3 wrong would my score be
62/65= 954/1000? I don't think it works that way. I overstudied thinking I
needed at least 55/65 to pass but I do not think this was the case. Why
would they grade on a curve? If you can't answer 85% of the questions I
think you should fail.  Are the CCNP exams graded on this weird scale and as
easy to pass as well? I recieved my MCSE a few months ago and honestly think
the scenario questions on  those test were harder than any of the questions
on th CCNA.Coming from a Computer Science background at Rutgers, I can
guarantee the midterms and finals on my networking courses there were 100
times more challenging than these exams.I barely needed a pen and paper
throughout the whole CCNA.

 Anyway before I digress any further I just wanted to know how the grading
worked on the CCNP and the scores required to pass.

Thanks.

Sam Sneed
 CCNA # 3,324,567,892
  MSCE # 5,324,324,332




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RE: CCNA scoring [7:10407]

2001-06-29 Thread Jim Brown

Sit the IE written and let me know what you think.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCNA scoring [7:10407]


I passed CCNA yesterday with a 946/1000(there is no integer divisible by 65
that would give me this score so I know its curved).  I did not think I was
doing well throughout the exam yet I got a good score. When it started, I
was  told that you need 849/1000 based on a score that ranges between 300
and 1000. So is this graded on a curve? If I got 3 wrong would my score be
62/65= 954/1000? I don't think it works that way. I overstudied thinking I
needed at least 55/65 to pass but I do not think this was the case. Why
would they grade on a curve? If you can't answer 85% of the questions I
think you should fail.  Are the CCNP exams graded on this weird scale and as
easy to pass as well? I recieved my MCSE a few months ago and honestly think
the scenario questions on  those test were harder than any of the questions
on th CCNA.Coming from a Computer Science background at Rutgers, I can
guarantee the midterms and finals on my networking courses there were 100
times more challenging than these exams.I barely needed a pen and paper
throughout the whole CCNA.

 Anyway before I digress any further I just wanted to know how the grading
worked on the CCNP and the scores required to pass.

Thanks.

Sam Sneed
 CCNA # 3,324,567,892
  MSCE # 5,324,324,332




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BSCN [7:10403]

2001-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Folks,

Passed the BSCN today with a score of 896... fairly straight forward...
though I found I needed
most of the allocated time.

Came up against the expected areas... OSPF, EIGRP, BGP .. know these
well and you will
ace this test..

I also got the 'select the command from the list' format seems to be
the norm now

Okay I think Ill tackle the Switching exam next.

Regards, Peter.




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Pix and iip options [7:10409]

2001-06-29 Thread BOURNE, KENNETH

Hello , my Pix 515 is logging large amounts of denies from a host because of
ip option 0x14. I checked cco for the system message 106012 it tells me  why
it is denying it  but not what causes it .  Can someone please give me or
point me to somewhere to find more info about ip option 0x14 and about ip
options in general   ? 
thanks in advance.

   |Ken Bourne,CCNA|Network Specialist|
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Re: BSCN [7:10403]

2001-06-29 Thread Eric F. Varner

Congrats!!  Nice score too.   I decided to tackle the switching test first
and will be taking my test on Monday. Then on to the routing test.

Best of luck.

-Eric V.

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: BSCN [7:10403]


 Hi Folks,

 Passed the BSCN today with a score of 896... fairly straight forward...
 though I found I needed
 most of the allocated time.

 Came up against the expected areas... OSPF, EIGRP, BGP .. know these
 well and you will
 ace this test..

 I also got the 'select the command from the list' format seems to be
 the norm now

 Okay I think Ill tackle the Switching exam next.

 Regards, Peter.




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RE: ARP problem [7:10400]

2001-06-29 Thread Kent Hundley

This sounds like a particular problem I ran into several years ago with 3com
switches.  In a nutshell, some 3com workgroup switches (don't remember the
model), only forward packets for unknown MAC addresses out a single
backbone port and not out every interface as is common with other
switches.

In your case, if you have the router on a non-backbone port and the router
is sending very little traffic, it could be that the MAC address is timing
out of the switches MAC table.  If this happens on the particular switches
I'm thinking of, when packets would inter the switch destined for the router
MAC, they would get forwarded up the backbone port only and not to the
router port.

I saw this scenario with a Unix box.  Unix boxen are generally pretty quiet
from a network perspective, so the box wasn't sending traffic very often and
the MAC entry would time out of the switch.  This seems unlikely with a
router, but depending on _when_ your having these problems it could still be
possible if your not running a routing protocol on the router.

If the router is generating constant traffic such as from a routing
protocol, it should not time out of the switch so I would suspect something
else as the cause.

When you experience the problem, you need to look at the switches MAC tables
to see where it thinks the router and PC MAC addresses are located.  You
could also do some sniffer traces and some router debugs.  debug arp and
debug ip packet could be useful, but you need to be careful if you have a
busy router as debug ip packet could spike the CPU quite a bit.

Another possibility would be some sort of strange bridge loop.  If your
switches are connected in a redundant fashion, spanning tree should be
blocking one path, if spanning tree is failing you could see unpredictable
behavior, up to an including a complete network meltdown.  Check your
cabling and ensure that spanning tree is operating correctly.

Somewhere in there you should find somethign that indicates a problem.  If
not, I'd suspect bad code on the router or switch as a last resort.

HTH,
Kent

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jacek Malinowski
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ARP problem [7:10400]


I have very big problem in Ethernet on my 4500 Cisco router.
The problem is when some station are pinging my ethernet ip on the router.
In some case the station can't ping my ethernet ip.
After command clear arp cache on my Cisco router the station can ping my
ethernet ip.
I gave on the ethernet interface command arp timout 100 but it doesn't help.
My LAN is very big and have 5 3 Com switches.
I can't find the solution.




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My first tacacs+ implementation [7:10413]

2001-06-29 Thread Allen May

 OK I've done my studying and am ready to implement this.  All I want to do
 (for now) is have the enable password pulled from tacacs+.  Sounds simple
 enough...but every example I find has all this authorization stuff in it
 that I don't want.  It looks like all I need is this:


 (in tac_plus.conf):

 key = yourkeyhere

 user = $enab15$ {
 password = cleartext password here
 }

 --

 (on each router):

 aaa new-model
 aaa authentication login default tacacs+  (by the way..cisco.com has
default
 group tacacs+ but this doesn't work for me)
 aaa authentication login NO_AUTHENT none (for the console to not draw from
 tacacs+)
 !
 ip tacacs source-interface Ethernet0  (just do this for each interface
 needed?  Or do I need this?)
 !
 tacacs-server host 10.1.1.3 key insertkeyhere
 !
 line con 0
   login authentication NO_AUTHENT

 --

 Am I missing anything?  The last resort command seemed to only apply to
 tacacs  not to tacacs+.  Any way to do this?

 Allen May

 One more thing...how do you get DES passwords generated if you want to DES
 encrypt the enable password?




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Test [7:10415]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

test




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RE: RFC 1483 [7:10165]

2001-06-29 Thread Ali Amir

Can you paste your config of Router A and B, so that i can take a look on it.

Thanks.


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Re: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]

2001-06-29 Thread Mark Smith

Thanks for the ideas, Allen. I'll probably just give that a try. I just am
still not sure if, once I bring PIX1 back online after doing an upgrade on
it and connect it to PIX2, and now they're at different versions, if the
xlate table will sync back up on PIX1. If not and I make PIX1 hot and take
PIX2 down for an upgrade to it, then it will just take a little while for
that table to rebuild on PIX1 and folks will get timeouts during that
rebuilding time. I'll give it a try though.
Thanks. 

Quoting Allen May :

 I think you're overdoing the solution when you have an
 almost zero downtime
 solution ni front of you.  Just fail the first unit 
 let the 2nd take over.
 Then with the first one offline, upgrade it  let the
 failover..well...failover ;)  When done just make sure
 the config is correct
 on the first one and do whatever it takes to get the
 first one back online.
 I've never tried just shutting the failover box off to
 see if it would
 trigger back to the first box with a different OS but
 even if that fails
 just reboot the first one and it should come back up
 happy.  Now your
 network is back the way it was with only 2 very small
 windows of downtime.
 Upgrade 2nd PIX and hook up failover.
 
 If you're concerned about the primary taking over
 again when you're trying
 to upgrade, don't.  Just boot it up hitting ESC so it
 doesn't load the
 config so you can manually give it an IP, subnet,
 gateway, and tftp server
 address.  Without the config loaded it won't be part
 of the failover.
 
 Allen
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Smith 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:53 AM
 Subject: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]
 
 
  This may be a stupid question but that's never
 stopped me from asking
 before.
 
  At one site I have 2 UR 515's running in failover
 config. They are at
 5.2(1)
  software. I'd like to upgrade them but can only
 afford an absolute minimum
  of down time (measured in seconds, maybe). From what
 I've read about the
 PIX
  units, for failover to work, I believe each unit
 must be configured
  identically - same hardware, OS version,
 configuration - or failover
 doesn't
  work.
  What my plan currently is to start by taking the
 standby PIX (PIX2) down
 and
  do a 6.0.1 upgrade. I guess the question that I have
 is, and here comes
 the
  stupid part, if I reconnect the two with PIX2 at
 6.0.1 and PIX1 still at
  5.2(1) will anything bad happen (my hair fall out, I
 contract an incurable
  STD, smoke come from either/both of the boxes)?
 Assuming that nothing
  horrible happens, when I take the PIX1 box down to
 upgrade it will PIX2
 (now
  on a different OS version) detect that the hot PIX
 has dropped offline and
  come up as in failover? If it won't on it's own can
 I do a failover
 active
  or a similar command to force PIX2 to become active?
 Will the children
 play
  well together again after I do a 6.0.1 upgrade on
 PIX1? Or will I have to
  bring PIX2 down, upgrade it (while PIX1 is still up)
 and then bring PIX1
  down (leaving PIX2 down), upgrade it and then bring
 both back up together
  once they are on the same OS version level? I
 realize that with a laptop
  that has TFTP server software connected to PIX1 and
 has the pix601.bin
 image
  on it the upgrade process doesn't take long. But if
 I choose the last
 method
  of taking both boxes down that, by the time that
 cables are switched
 around
  as required, box(es) are rebooted, bring the 2nd box
 up in monitor mode,
  copy the image, reboot, reconnect failover cabling
 (as needed), the
 process
  would probably measured in minutes of total down
 time before both would be
  back online. That might as well be days as far as my
 bosses are concerned.
  Just looking for alternatives.
  Thanks for any advice/experience/thoughts. Sorry if
 this doesn't belong in
  studygroup.com. I just know that there's a lot of
 experience and common
  sense here.
 
  (END stupid questions)
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ATM/FRAD [7:10418]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

Let's see if you CCIEs can solve this one...a cisco 3640, route-caching on,
ATM interface in a hairpin configuration (this means coming in/going out
same physical interface) , will, for some odd reason, change the UU bit in
the last cell of the frame. THis only occurs when the frame is larger than
492 bytes. The AAL5 cpcs UU bit is supposed to be ignored/reserved. This
only happens when route-caching is on. It does not occur at all on a 7200
series. The problem is that the Lucent ATM/Frame switch is marking the
frames DE and marking FECNs/BECNs. Any suggestions? Thanks...

Marc




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OT: Fridays funnies! [7:10419]

2001-06-29 Thread Natasha

Just in case you need some ideas for your 4th of July party.
http://natasha38.botbuilders.com/horseshoes.jpg

For those of you who plan to travel for the weekend!
http://jevans.xerox-sbc.com/Signs/1_signs_.htm

-
A farmer got pulled over by a state trooper for speeding, and the
trooper
started to lecture the farmer about his speed, and in general began to
throw
his weight around to try to make the farmer uncomfortable.
Finally, the trooper got around to writing out the ticket, and as he was
doing that he kept swatting at some flies that were buzzing around his
head.
The farmer said, Having some problems with circle flies there, are ya?
The trooper stopped writing the ticket and said, Well, yeah, is that
what
they are? I've never heard of circle flies.
So the farmer said, Well, circle flies are common on farms. See,
they're
called circle flies because they're almost always found circling around
the
backend of a horse.
The trooper said, Oh, and went back to writing the ticket. Then after
a
minute he stopped and said, Hey, wait a minute. Are you trying to call
me a
horse's ass?
The farmer said, Oh no, officer. I have too much respect for law
enforcement and police officers to even think about calling you a
horse's
ass.
The trooper said, Well, that's a good thing, and went back to writing
the
ticket. After a long pause, the farmer said, Hard to fool them flies,
though.




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CCIE - IP Recertification Resources [7:10420]

2001-06-29 Thread Bob Bracalente

Does anyone know of any good CCIE recerficiation resources that are
available?  I'm surprised that no training companies have picked up on this
yet.

Thanks,

Bob


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Re: Refurbished routers and switches in Canada/US [7:10308]

2001-06-29 Thread Brad Ellis

Bharat,

Hi!  We offer routers to the US and Foreign Countries (Canada included).
Please visit our website at: www.optsys.net  Or send me an email for more
information.  We offer a 30-day warranty on everything that we sell and we
can accept many forms of payment.  We give EXCELLENT deals to groupstudy
members in particular!  :)

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
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Network Learning Inc

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 Hi there,

 Can anyone please give me some sites on sites or stores which sells
 refurbished routers/switches in US/Canada?

 Thanks.




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-29 Thread Richard Chang

I can simply use the quote from Michael Williams' message above to answer
your question...

1. A loopback is a logical interface that never goes down.  It's used for
various reasons (for setting up various kinds of tunnels, for setting who is
the DR/BDR in OSPF, etc).

2. Many people use the subnet mask 255.255.255.255 because
that's the only way to assign a single IP to the lookback instead of using
more than 1 IP address. Therefore, you normally won't see /24s on loopback
interfaces.

Richard

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 I have seems some routers with many lookback interfaces configured.  May I
 know what is the purpose to have so many lookback? I thought one loopback
 can help us to troubleshoot the connectivity

 Besides, I am interested about question 5 from Richard, you said the
 lookback IPs within same network can be configured on different router.
 Does it mean that if we configured many lookback interfaces, those IPs
must
 be in different network.  for example 192.168.101.101/24
192.168.102.102/24.
 But Any one know what is the reason??


  5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
  configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
  network.
 Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
 doing this though...

 The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
 need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 See lines below.


 Susan Stone  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi..
 
  Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
  loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.
 
  1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
  (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is
connected
 to
  Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If
S1
  of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback
address.
 No.
 
  2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
  100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1
of
 B
  is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
 Yes, if you have correct routing entries.
 
  3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still
telnet
  from A to B?
 Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still
up.

 
  4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
 Let
  say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
  20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

 Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.
 
  5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
  configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
  network.
 Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
 doing this though...

 The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
 need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

 Richard

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]

2001-06-29 Thread Allen May

Shouldn't take long.  Clear XLATE can be done any time but it just knocks
off streaming connections so that they have to reconnect.  It will probably
do the same thing if it has to rebuild where all they need to do is
reconnect.  No biggie if they're expecting it ;)


- Original Message -
From: Mark Smith 
To: Allen May 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]


 Thanks for the ideas, Allen. I'll probably just give that a try. I just am
still not sure if, once I bring PIX1 back online after doing an upgrade on
it and connect it to PIX2, and now they're at different versions, if the
xlate table will sync back up on PIX1. If not and I make PIX1 hot and take
PIX2 down for an upgrade to it, then it will just take a little while for
that table to rebuild on PIX1 and folks will get timeouts during that
rebuilding time. I'll give it a try though.
 Thanks.

 Quoting Allen May :

  I think you're overdoing the solution when you have an
  almost zero downtime
  solution ni front of you.  Just fail the first unit 
  let the 2nd take over.
  Then with the first one offline, upgrade it  let the
  failover..well...failover ;)  When done just make sure
  the config is correct
  on the first one and do whatever it takes to get the
  first one back online.
  I've never tried just shutting the failover box off to
  see if it would
  trigger back to the first box with a different OS but
  even if that fails
  just reboot the first one and it should come back up
  happy.  Now your
  network is back the way it was with only 2 very small
  windows of downtime.
  Upgrade 2nd PIX and hook up failover.
 
  If you're concerned about the primary taking over
  again when you're trying
  to upgrade, don't.  Just boot it up hitting ESC so it
  doesn't load the
  config so you can manually give it an IP, subnet,
  gateway, and tftp server
  address.  Without the config loaded it won't be part
  of the failover.
 
  Allen
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mark Smith
  To:
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:53 AM
  Subject: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]
 
 
   This may be a stupid question but that's never
  stopped me from asking
  before.
  
   At one site I have 2 UR 515's running in failover
  config. They are at
  5.2(1)
   software. I'd like to upgrade them but can only
  afford an absolute minimum
   of down time (measured in seconds, maybe). From what
  I've read about the
  PIX
   units, for failover to work, I believe each unit
  must be configured
   identically - same hardware, OS version,
  configuration - or failover
  doesn't
   work.
   What my plan currently is to start by taking the
  standby PIX (PIX2) down
  and
   do a 6.0.1 upgrade. I guess the question that I have
  is, and here comes
  the
   stupid part, if I reconnect the two with PIX2 at
  6.0.1 and PIX1 still at
   5.2(1) will anything bad happen (my hair fall out, I
  contract an incurable
   STD, smoke come from either/both of the boxes)?
  Assuming that nothing
   horrible happens, when I take the PIX1 box down to
  upgrade it will PIX2
  (now
   on a different OS version) detect that the hot PIX
  has dropped offline and
   come up as in failover? If it won't on it's own can
  I do a failover
  active
   or a similar command to force PIX2 to become active?
  Will the children
  play
   well together again after I do a 6.0.1 upgrade on
  PIX1? Or will I have to
   bring PIX2 down, upgrade it (while PIX1 is still up)
  and then bring PIX1
   down (leaving PIX2 down), upgrade it and then bring
  both back up together
   once they are on the same OS version level? I
  realize that with a laptop
   that has TFTP server software connected to PIX1 and
  has the pix601.bin
  image
   on it the upgrade process doesn't take long. But if
  I choose the last
  method
   of taking both boxes down that, by the time that
  cables are switched
  around
   as required, box(es) are rebooted, bring the 2nd box
  up in monitor mode,
   copy the image, reboot, reconnect failover cabling
  (as needed), the
  process
   would probably measured in minutes of total down
  time before both would be
   back online. That might as well be days as far as my
  bosses are concerned.
   Just looking for alternatives.
   Thanks for any advice/experience/thoughts. Sorry if
  this doesn't belong in
   studygroup.com. I just know that there's a lot of
  experience and common
   sense here.
  
   (END stupid questions)
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Re: weird BGP question [7:10384]

2001-06-29 Thread Richard Chang

This is indeed an interesting question although I never heard that it is
being done...

If I were to take a guess, it would be to manipulate traffic so that
upstreams A would always be preferred. (append extra AS paths and a default
route should do the trick).  Then there has to be some kind of network
management tools to send out alerts when the accumulated traffic for
upstream A reaches 300G. At that point, you can tell the router to take B as
preferred while put A as backup.

Your upstream provider might have a traffic monitoring web page that you can
log into to view the same results.

Any better ideas?

Richard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
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 Here's a weird BGP question I got today.  Take a standard
 dual-homed site using BGP to connect to two upstreams.  Is it possible
 to get BGP to route the first 300G of traffic per month to upstream A
 and the rest to upstream B?  I'm told it's done all the time, but
 somehow I doubt it.

  Before the famous question gets asked, the problem being solved is
 cost.  The idea is to not exceed the minimum cost of upstream A.




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Which IOS for Token Ring? [7:10425]

2001-06-29 Thread anthony moore

I have a Cisco 2525 router.  Since it has token ring, which IOS would I need
to get for it?


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Re: weird BGP question [7:10384]

2001-06-29 Thread JP

Richcard,

I guess it could not be anything but that. But seems to me this has little
to do with BGP.

JP



Richard Chang  wrote in message
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 This is indeed an interesting question although I never heard that it is
 being done...

 If I were to take a guess, it would be to manipulate traffic so that
 upstreams A would always be preferred. (append extra AS paths and a
default
 route should do the trick).  Then there has to be some kind of network
 management tools to send out alerts when the accumulated traffic for
 upstream A reaches 300G. At that point, you can tell the router to take B
as
 preferred while put A as backup.

 Your upstream provider might have a traffic monitoring web page that you
can
 log into to view the same results.

 Any better ideas?

 Richard

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
 message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here's a weird BGP question I got today.  Take a standard
  dual-homed site using BGP to connect to two upstreams.  Is it possible
  to get BGP to route the first 300G of traffic per month to upstream A
  and the rest to upstream B?  I'm told it's done all the time, but
  somehow I doubt it.
 
   Before the famous question gets asked, the problem being solved is
  cost.  The idea is to not exceed the minimum cost of upstream A.




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Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread Michael Montgomery

Hello,

Can we ask questions on technical matters here? and if not... does anyone
know where this can be done?

Thank You,

Michael


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HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Sam Sneed

I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who has
configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer there.
If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is the
standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the active
at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing the
T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?

If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
load or would it totally take over?

With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?

thanks




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Mapped Drive Dropping Over Cisco WAN [7:10429]

2001-06-29 Thread Michael Montgomery

Does anyone know if there are any possible reasons why mapped drives across
a T-1 cisco routed WAN link would drop after appx. 3 minutes? I've tried
every registry tweak that I could find in the MSKB and nothing has kept the
link up for more than a few minutes. It's not just in the application but
also when you go in My Computer and double-click the drive itself. A message
pops up that says it is an unreliable connection. I also tried a cmd on the
server net configure server /autodisconnect:-1 which by MS definition will
prevent the server from idle-disconnect of shared resources or RAS
connections. As this happens on the 95 and W2K machines I think it's not
related to the workstations, but I am not sure. So this leads me to believe
that maybe there is a timeout or keepalive that needs to be set/adjusted on
the router.

Thanks in advance!

Michael


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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted to
have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two lines,
have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

Marc


Sam Sneed  wrote in message
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 I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who
has
 configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
there.
 If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is
the
 standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the active
 at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing the
 T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?

 If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
 load or would it totally take over?

 With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
 ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?

 thanks




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Re: Mapped Drive Dropping Over Cisco WAN [7:10429]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

Maybe you have a bad WAN connection. Have your ISp check it. You can start
by checking for packet loss. Frame-relay circuits tend to bounce a lot, but
not enough to make you lose connection. If you're losing connection, then
your line is too faulty, barring any LAN problems. Check the router log.

Marc

Michael Montgomery  wrote in message
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 Does anyone know if there are any possible reasons why mapped drives
across
 a T-1 cisco routed WAN link would drop after appx. 3 minutes? I've tried
 every registry tweak that I could find in the MSKB and nothing has kept
the
 link up for more than a few minutes. It's not just in the application but
 also when you go in My Computer and double-click the drive itself. A
message
 pops up that says it is an unreliable connection. I also tried a cmd on
the
 server net configure server /autodisconnect:-1 which by MS definition will
 prevent the server from idle-disconnect of shared resources or RAS
 connections. As this happens on the 95 and W2K machines I think it's not
 related to the workstations, but I am not sure. So this leads me to
believe
 that maybe there is a timeout or keepalive that needs to be set/adjusted
on
 the router.

 Thanks in advance!

 Michael




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Re: Mapped Drive Dropping Over Cisco WAN [7:10429]

2001-06-29 Thread hal9001

I'm hearing of exactly the same thing on an old job of mine where two 2611's
across a T1/E1 link are doing the same.  Driving us nuts as same fault
finding has not worked any brains out there!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: Michael Montgomery 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Mapped Drive Dropping Over Cisco WAN [7:10429]


 Does anyone know if there are any possible reasons why mapped drives
across
 a T-1 cisco routed WAN link would drop after appx. 3 minutes? I've tried
 every registry tweak that I could find in the MSKB and nothing has kept
the
 link up for more than a few minutes. It's not just in the application but
 also when you go in My Computer and double-click the drive itself. A
message
 pops up that says it is an unreliable connection. I also tried a cmd on
the
 server net configure server /autodisconnect:-1 which by MS definition will
 prevent the server from idle-disconnect of shared resources or RAS
 connections. As this happens on the 95 and W2K machines I think it's not
 related to the workstations, but I am not sure. So this leads me to
believe
 that maybe there is a timeout or keepalive that needs to be set/adjusted
on
 the router.

 Thanks in advance!

 Michael




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Sam Sneed

I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I would
like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to our
ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with its
own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as 1
virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this extra
idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?


Marc  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
to
 have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two lines,
 have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
 involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

 Marc


 Sam Sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who
 has
  configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
 there.
  If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is
 the
  standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
active
  at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
the
  T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
 
  If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
  load or would it totally take over?
 
  With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
  ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?
 
  thanks




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RE: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Eric Hoffman

Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups, and what it
could be used for.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html



Best Regards,

Eric Hoffman
Senior Systems Engineer
MCP, CCNA, CCNP
Computer Professionals International

-Original Message-
From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted to
have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two lines,
have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

Marc


Sam Sneed  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who
has
 configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
there.
 If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is
the
 standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the active
 at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing the
 T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?

 If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
 load or would it totally take over?

 With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
 ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?

 thanks




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RE: Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu

properly speaking, this is a study list - and questions should revolve
around certification questions, issues, etc.

realistically, it is hard to draw the line sometimes

the technical list is comp.dcom.sys.cisco

HTH

chuck


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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Technical Questions [7:10427]


Hello,

Can we ask questions on technical matters here? and if not... does anyone
know where this can be done?

Thank You,

Michael




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Sam Sneed

Thanks, Thats exactly what I was looking for.


Eric Hoffman  wrote in message
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 Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups, and what
it
 could be used for.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html



 Best Regards,

 Eric Hoffman
 Senior Systems Engineer
 MCP, CCNA, CCNP
 Computer Professionals International

 -Original Message-
 From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


 HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
to
 have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two lines,
 have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
 involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

 Marc


 Sam Sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who
 has
  configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
 there.
  If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is
 the
  standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
active
  at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
the
  T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
 
  If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
  load or would it totally take over?
 
  With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
  ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?
 
  thanks




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread David C Prall

You can do exactly what you want to do, but you are going to require a few
more boxes. The routers connecting to your ISP's will not run HSRP, a pair
of routers that are connected to both ISP Routers will run HSRP between
them. This way you load-balance across your ISP connections, but have a
single gateway. This is usually done with L3 Switches.

David C Prall   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://dcp.dcptech.com
- Original Message -
From: Sam Sneed 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


 I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I
would
 like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to our
 ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with
its
 own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
 internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
 gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as 1
 virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
 times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this extra
 idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?


 Marc  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
 to
  have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
lines,
  have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
  involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
 
  Marc
 
 
  Sam Sneed  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
who
  has
   configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
  there.
   If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1
is
  the
   standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
 active
   at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
 the
   T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
  
   If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share
the
   load or would it totally take over?
  
   With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
throughput
   ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
connection?
  
   thanks




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Fountain

Yes, with HSRP all traffic will go the primary router and the second would
be idle.

You can do some HSRP loadbalancing by having two physical routers and then
each of them configured with two HSRP addresses.  One is primary for one
HSRP address and secondary for the other and router two is secondary for the
first HSRP and primary for the second.  Then have them track the serials to
decide if they stay primary.  That way there is two addresses for default
gateway available to and if one router goes down of if one T1 goes down the
other router takes the whole load.

This way you can point half your devices at one HSRP address for default
gateway and the other half at the other HSRP address.  This also helps solve
the problem of trying to load balance across two routers if you are running
NAT because traffic from any given workstation should always go through the
same router except in cases of failure.

Of course, if you want simplicity just plug both T1s into the same router
and keep the second router configured as a hot-swappable spare.




- Original Message -
From: Sam Sneed 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


 I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I
would
 like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to our
 ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with
its
 own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
 internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
 gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as 1
 virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
 times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this extra
 idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?


 Marc  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
 to
  have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
lines,
  have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
  involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
 
  Marc
 
 
  Sam Sneed  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
who
  has
   configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
  there.
   If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1
is
  the
   standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
 active
   at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
 the
   T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
  
   If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share
the
   load or would it totally take over?
  
   With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
throughput
   ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
connection?
  
   thanks




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

Yes sir, HSRP routers will definately not use the T1's for anything but 1
active, 1 pulsing (standby)Not designed for load balancingRedundancy
only.


Marc

Sam Sneed  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I
would
 like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to our
 ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with
its
 own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
 internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
 gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as 1
 virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
 times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this extra
 idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?


 Marc  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
 to
  have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
lines,
  have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
  involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
 
  Marc
 
 
  Sam Sneed  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
who
  has
   configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
  there.
   If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1
is
  the
   standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
 active
   at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
 the
   T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
  
   If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share
the
   load or would it totally take over?
  
   With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
throughput
   ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
connection?
  
   thanks




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RE: Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread John Neiberger

But some of us  use this list as their first-line tech support,
even if the topic isn't exactly certification-related.

Now, I would never do such a thing  ;-)

John

 Chuck Larrieu  6/29/01 2:24:51 PM 
properly speaking, this is a study list - and questions should revolve
around certification questions, issues, etc.

realistically, it is hard to draw the line sometimes

the technical list is comp.dcom.sys.cisco

HTH

chuck


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Technical Questions [7:10427]


Hello,

Can we ask questions on technical matters here? and if not... does
anyone
know where this can be done?

Thank You,

Michael




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Re: Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread Circusnuts

Open Forum might be more up to speed if your free-time consists of working
address plans in binary or looking for probability in the pregnant chads of
Fortran punch cards :o)


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: Technical Questions [7:10427]


 properly speaking, this is a study list - and questions should revolve
 around certification questions, issues, etc.

 realistically, it is hard to draw the line sometimes

 the technical list is comp.dcom.sys.cisco

 HTH

 chuck


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Technical Questions [7:10427]


 Hello,

 Can we ask questions on technical matters here? and if not... does anyone
 know where this can be done?

 Thank You,

 Michael




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

Good link! Seems a bit odd to have the PCs configured with two differnet
GWs. Kind of a manual pain. Hopefully Sam here do\es not have other routers
with routing protocols involved...Watch out for loops!


Marc

Eric Hoffman  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups, and what
it
 could be used for.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html



 Best Regards,

 Eric Hoffman
 Senior Systems Engineer
 MCP, CCNA, CCNP
 Computer Professionals International

 -Original Message-
 From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


 HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
to
 have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two lines,
 have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
 involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

 Marc


 Sam Sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who
 has
  configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
 there.
  If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is
 the
  standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
active
  at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
the
  T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
 
  If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
  load or would it totally take over?
 
  With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
  ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?
 
  thanks




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RE: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Buri, Heather H

You should be able to accomplish this with the interface tracking option in
HSRP.

Heather Buri   
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-Original Message-
From: Sam Sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I would
like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to our
ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with its
own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as 1
virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this extra
idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?


Marc  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you wanted
to
 have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two lines,
 have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all that's
 involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

 Marc


 Sam Sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone who
 has
  configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my answer
 there.
  If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet, 1 is
 the
  standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
active
  at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever utilizing
the
  T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
 
  If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share the
  load or would it totally take over?
 
  With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would throughput
  ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1 connection?
 
  thanks
EOM 

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OT: Multiple Default Routes on 5505 RSFC [7:10443]

2001-06-29 Thread Larry Anderson

I hope you folks can help me with this.  I KNOW there's an answer, but it 
just eludes me.

I have a Cisco 5505 switch with a Route Switch Feature Card.  I have a 
bunch of VLANs configured with private addresses, 172.16.x...  The default 
route on the RSFC points to a PIX firewall - 172.16.1.1.  Everything is 
working as it should.

I created another VLAN on the same switch with outside, public addresses 
(198.x.x.x).  Now because of the default route, all of that traffic is 
being routed through the firewall.  I would like that traffic to go 
directly to the outside router, bypassing the firewall.

Is there any way to somehow differentiate this traffic?  Thanks.

 Larry




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

I think I like Mike's suggestion the best!

Marc

Mike Fountain  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Yes, with HSRP all traffic will go the primary router and the second would
 be idle.

 You can do some HSRP loadbalancing by having two physical routers and then
 each of them configured with two HSRP addresses.  One is primary for one
 HSRP address and secondary for the other and router two is secondary for
the
 first HSRP and primary for the second.  Then have them track the serials
to
 decide if they stay primary.  That way there is two addresses for default
 gateway available to and if one router goes down of if one T1 goes down
the
 other router takes the whole load.

 This way you can point half your devices at one HSRP address for default
 gateway and the other half at the other HSRP address.  This also helps
solve
 the problem of trying to load balance across two routers if you are
running
 NAT because traffic from any given workstation should always go through
the
 same router except in cases of failure.

 Of course, if you want simplicity just plug both T1s into the same router
 and keep the second router configured as a hot-swappable spare.




 - Original Message -
 From: Sam Sneed
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:13 PM
 Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


  I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I
 would
  like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to
our
  ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with
 its
  own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
  internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
  gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as
1
  virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
  times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this
extra
  idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?
 
 
  Marc  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you
wanted
  to
   have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
 lines,
   have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all
that's
   involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
  
   Marc
  
  
   Sam Sneed  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
 who
   has
configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my
answer
   there.
If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet,
1
 is
   the
standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
  active
at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever
utilizing
  the
T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
   
If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share
 the
load or would it totally take over?
   
With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
 throughput
ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
 connection?
   
thanks




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RE: Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu

let he who has never asked in behalf of a customer throw the first stone.
( some of us are better at disguising our intentions than others ;- )

Chuck

-Original Message-
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John Neiberger
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Technical Questions [7:10427]


But some of us  use this list as their first-line tech support,
even if the topic isn't exactly certification-related.

Now, I would never do such a thing  ;-)

John

 Chuck Larrieu  6/29/01 2:24:51 PM 
properly speaking, this is a study list - and questions should revolve
around certification questions, issues, etc.

realistically, it is hard to draw the line sometimes

the technical list is comp.dcom.sys.cisco

HTH

chuck


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Technical Questions [7:10427]


Hello,

Can we ask questions on technical matters here? and if not... does
anyone
know where this can be done?

Thank You,

Michael




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Re: Multiple Default Routes on 5505 RSFC [7:10443]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

What about:
Ip route 198..x.x.x 255.x.x.x (to) internet gateway

?

Marc
Larry Anderson  wrote in message
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 I hope you folks can help me with this.  I KNOW there's an answer, but it
 just eludes me.

 I have a Cisco 5505 switch with a Route Switch Feature Card.  I have a
 bunch of VLANs configured with private addresses, 172.16.x...  The default
 route on the RSFC points to a PIX firewall - 172.16.1.1.  Everything is
 working as it should.

 I created another VLAN on the same switch with outside, public addresses
 (198.x.x.x).  Now because of the default route, all of that traffic is
 being routed through the firewall.  I would like that traffic to go
 directly to the outside router, bypassing the firewall.

 Is there any way to somehow differentiate this traffic?  Thanks.

  Larry




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access servers? [7:10449]

2001-06-29 Thread Magenta Bloom

I went to the Cisco homepage and looked at the list of products.
I saw Cisco Access Servers.  What kind of hardware are those?
_
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com




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ReviewNet Test [7:10450]

2001-06-29 Thread cpasq

Has anyone ever had to take an online test from ReviewNet.net
as a pre requisit for  Network job??

This test was referred by a recruiter for a Network type of job.

heres the link  http://www2.reviewnet.net/UserLogin.html

I'd like your opinions of this.

Thanks.




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread John Neiberger

It's not a pain if you use DHCP to set the default gateway in your PCs. 
It would definitely be a pain to do manually, though.

John

 Marc  6/29/01 3:09:47 PM 
Good link! Seems a bit odd to have the PCs configured with two
differnet
GWs. Kind of a manual pain. Hopefully Sam here do\es not have other
routers
with routing protocols involved...Watch out for loops!


Marc

Eric Hoffman  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups, and
what
it
 could be used for.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html 



 Best Regards,

 Eric Hoffman
 Senior Systems Engineer
 MCP, CCNA, CCNP
 Computer Professionals International

 -Original Message-
 From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


 HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you
wanted
to
 have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
lines,
 have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all
that's
 involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

 Marc


 Sam Sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
who
 has
  configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my
answer
 there.
  If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet,
1 is
 the
  standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through
the
active
  at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever
utilizing
the
  T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
 
  If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to
share the
  load or would it totally take over?
 
  With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
throughput
  ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
connection?
 
  thanks




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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Marc

Yeah, but you can't specify two different GWs in the same DHCP global subnet
scope properties. They all take either one or none. The article states that
inorder to load balance you must set the PCs to divide between the two
virtual IPs of the GWs. SO basically you have to manually set the GW on
every PC, then call that load balancing

Marc

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 It's not a pain if you use DHCP to set the default gateway in your PCs.
 It would definitely be a pain to do manually, though.

 John

  Marc  6/29/01 3:09:47 PM 
 Good link! Seems a bit odd to have the PCs configured with two
 differnet
 GWs. Kind of a manual pain. Hopefully Sam here do\es not have other
 routers
 with routing protocols involved...Watch out for loops!


 Marc

 Eric Hoffman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups, and
 what
 it
  could be used for.
 
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Eric Hoffman
  Senior Systems Engineer
  MCP, CCNA, CCNP
  Computer Professionals International
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]
 
 
  HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you
 wanted
 to
  have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
 lines,
  have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all
 that's
  involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
 
  Marc
 
 
  Sam Sneed  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
 who
  has
   configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my
 answer
  there.
   If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet,
 1 is
  the
   standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through
 the
 active
   at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever
 utilizing
 the
   T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
  
   If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to
 share the
   load or would it totally take over?
  
   With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
 throughput
   ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
 connection?
  
   thanks




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RE: Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread Michael Montgomery

Thanks for the info Chuck!

Michael


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Re: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread John Neiberger

Hmm  I have no response to that because I've never personally
configured DHCP to do this.  However, I've heard several times that this
can be done.  Perhaps users on a given subnet must use the same gateway,
but you could alternate gateway addresses on separate subnets.  Is that
possible?

Granted, this wouldn't solve the problem if you only had a single
subnet needing internet access, but it would divide traffic from
multiple subnets between the two links.

John

 Marc  6/29/01 3:58:52 PM 
Yeah, but you can't specify two different GWs in the same DHCP global
subnet
scope properties. They all take either one or none. The article states
that
inorder to load balance you must set the PCs to divide between the
two
virtual IPs of the GWs. SO basically you have to manually set the GW
on
every PC, then call that load balancing

Marc

John Neiberger  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 It's not a pain if you use DHCP to set the default gateway in your
PCs.
 It would definitely be a pain to do manually, though.

 John

  Marc  6/29/01 3:09:47 PM 
 Good link! Seems a bit odd to have the PCs configured with two
 differnet
 GWs. Kind of a manual pain. Hopefully Sam here do\es not have other
 routers
 with routing protocols involved...Watch out for loops!


 Marc

 Eric Hoffman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups,
and
 what
 it
  could be used for.
 
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html 
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Eric Hoffman
  Senior Systems Engineer
  MCP, CCNA, CCNP
  Computer Professionals International
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]
 
 
  HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you
 wanted
 to
  have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use
two
 lines,
  have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all
 that's
  involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
 
  Marc
 
 
  Sam Sneed  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for
anyone
 who
  has
   configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my
 answer
  there.
   If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the
internet,
 1 is
  the
   standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through
 the
 active
   at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever
 utilizing
 the
   T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
  
   If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to
 share the
   load or would it totally take over?
  
   With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
 throughput
   ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
 connection?
  
   thanks




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Re: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]

2001-06-29 Thread nrf

Well, to answer your question, I don't want to telnet to the outside
interface from the inside.  I want to telnet to the outside interface from
the outside, and clearly due to the NAT, the outside interface is the only
interface I can telnet to, and because of this stupid bug, I cannot.  So
basically what it boils down to is that nobody from the outside can ever
telnet into the router, which bites.

And somebody asked what OS and what router I am using.  It is 12.2(1), on a
2514.






Allen May  wrote in message
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 OK I don't have the real answer but it seems that NAT overload is on the
 same IP address that you're trying to telnet to.  That would be kind of
 weird for the box to receive a telnet request from  to the same IP.

 No flames but I'll just throw a suggestion to try (let me know if it
works).
 Try settting up an access-list for NONAT when going to that IP address.
 That will leave the source address alone.  And it looks like you've set up
 an access-list to allow telnet to that interface already but double check
 that.

 I have to ask...why telnet to the outside interface from inside?

 Allen


 - Original Message -
 From: nrf
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:01 AM
 Subject: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]


  Hey all:
 
  I have this strange situation where I cannot telnet into my router.
This
 is
  what happens.
 
  I am successfully running NAT (with overload), with no problem.  I can
  telnet into the interface that is the inside NAT with no problem.  I can
  also telnet into any non-NAT interface with no problem.  The problem
 occurs
  when I try to telnet into the interface that is the designated outside
NAT
  interface.  For example, when I fire up telnet from Windows and telnet
to
  that outside NAT interface, it just shows that it is trying to connect,
 but
  it never connects.
 
  Now, I can assure you that connectivity is fine.  I can ping that
 interface.
  People from the inside can get to the outside, with no problem.  So it's
 not
  a routing issue, I am sure.
 
  I have monitored what happens when I try to telnet, as I have an
  access-class on the vty line that allows anything in (permit ip any
any),
  but is set for logging.  So I notice that telnet packets are indeed
being
  permitted by the access-list, meaning the telnet request is hitting the
  router successfully.  On the console, I even get a message saying that
the
  access-list is allowing a telnet packet in.  So everything seems cool.
 But
  somehow the router doesn't want to acknowledge the telnet request.
 
  Does anybody know what is up with that?




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RE: access servers? [7:10449]

2001-06-29 Thread Rik Guyler

These are generally remote access servers.  Some call them RAS, some call
them NAS (network AS) but they're all the same thing for the most part.  In
short, they provide access to the LAN via dial-up technology.  These boxes
usually have digital modem cards (the better ones do anyway), which provides
high port density and support for 56k analog dial-up since there is one less
digital-to-analog conversion as a result of the modems being of the digital
variety. 

The AS5300, just a fantastic box, has the T1 controllers built right in so
you don't need a DSU.  Just plug the T!(s) into the controller ports and
away you go.  With this technology, you can get either 23 or 24 dial-up
circuits per T1 depending on whether the T1 is channelized (CAS=in-band
signaling for 24-56k connections) or Primary Rate Interface (PRI=out-of-band
signaling for 23-64k connections such as BRI ISDN).

Hope this helps!

Rik

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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: access servers? [7:10449]


I went to the Cisco homepage and looked at the list of products.
I saw Cisco Access Servers.  What kind of hardware are those?
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cisco IOS Security [7:10456]

2001-06-29 Thread mindiani mindiani

I have this command in a book and does not understand what it does
could anybody explain

The command is a global command on a cisco 805:


cns event-service server





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RE: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu

forgive my throwing in my own ignorant observations

I see this discussion as an exercise in bottom up network design. I know
what HSRP is, I know what DHCP is. Now how do I make them do what I want?

to quote a sage, one must begin by asking the basic question - what is the
problem you are trying to solve?

when the problem is defined, then one moves to the examination of
alternatives. Life is more difficult when you begin with the solution, and
then try to get that solution to meet the need. Years of managing technology
in a firm full of whiney crybaby ignorant users has left me with a lot of
experience with people who tell you what the solution is without bothering
to think about the problem. ( I want you to implement a system here we all
use Windows address book to look up company wide information, contacts,
etc. )

As I read the original definition of the problem - multihomed ISP's,
multiple paths, how do I assure internet connectivity? ( and load balance
as well, I presume ) then the solution goes beyond the nature of HSRP and
DHCP

if the problem is how do you ensure that an end user, given these network
circumstances, always have internet access? then you can break down the
problem into component parts and work from there.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Neiberger
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


Hmm  I have no response to that because I've never personally
configured DHCP to do this.  However, I've heard several times that this
can be done.  Perhaps users on a given subnet must use the same gateway,
but you could alternate gateway addresses on separate subnets.  Is that
possible?

Granted, this wouldn't solve the problem if you only had a single
subnet needing internet access, but it would divide traffic from
multiple subnets between the two links.

John

 Marc  6/29/01 3:58:52 PM 
Yeah, but you can't specify two different GWs in the same DHCP global
subnet
scope properties. They all take either one or none. The article states
that
inorder to load balance you must set the PCs to divide between the
two
virtual IPs of the GWs. SO basically you have to manually set the GW
on
every PC, then call that load balancing

Marc

John Neiberger  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 It's not a pain if you use DHCP to set the default gateway in your
PCs.
 It would definitely be a pain to do manually, though.

 John

  Marc  6/29/01 3:09:47 PM 
 Good link! Seems a bit odd to have the PCs configured with two
 differnet
 GWs. Kind of a manual pain. Hopefully Sam here do\es not have other
 routers
 with routing protocols involved...Watch out for loops!


 Marc

 Eric Hoffman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here is a link that may answer some questions about HSRP groups,
and
 what
 it
  could be used for.
 
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/7.html
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Eric Hoffman
  Senior Systems Engineer
  MCP, CCNA, CCNP
  Computer Professionals International
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]
 
 
  HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you
 wanted
 to
  have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use
two
 lines,
  have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all
 that's
  involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...
 
  Marc
 
 
  Sam Sneed  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for
anyone
 who
  has
   configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my
 answer
  there.
   If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the
internet,
 1 is
  the
   standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through
 the
 active
   at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever
 utilizing
 the
   T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
  
   If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to
 share the
   load or would it totally take over?
  
   With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
 throughput
   ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
 connection?
  
   thanks




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Re: Multiple Default Routes on 5505 RSFC [7:10443]

2001-06-29 Thread David C Prall

- Original Message -
From: Larry Anderson 
 I hope you folks can help me with this.  I KNOW there's an answer, but it
 just eludes me.

 I have a Cisco 5505 switch with a Route Switch Feature Card.  I have a
 bunch of VLANs configured with private addresses, 172.16.x...  The default
 route on the RSFC points to a PIX firewall - 172.16.1.1.  Everything is
 working as it should.

 I created another VLAN on the same switch with outside, public addresses
 (198.x.x.x).  Now because of the default route, all of that traffic is
 being routed through the firewall.  I would like that traffic to go
 directly to the outside router, bypassing the firewall.

 Is there any way to somehow differentiate this traffic?  Thanks.


Add the ports, but do not create an interface on the RSFC. These ports will
then have the outside router as their default route. On the outside router
you will have a route pointing to the PIX's outside interface for your
public address space. On the RSFC since everything is Connected, you will
bypass the PIX to get to your outside addresses. Therefore, we do not want
the outside network to appear on the RSFC. If you really must do this, then
it is time to look at Policy-Based Routing.

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Re: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]

2001-06-29 Thread David Raistrick

On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, nrf wrote:

 Well, to answer your question, I don't want to telnet to the outside
 interface from the inside.  I want to telnet to the outside interface from
 the outside, and clearly due to the NAT, the outside interface is the only
 interface I can telnet to, and because of this stupid bug, I cannot.  So
 basically what it boils down to is that nobody from the outside can ever
 telnet into the router, which bites.


I wonder here...and yes, I sorta didnt read the rest of the thread..

Are you static mapping the IP you used for the outside interface to an
internal address, by chance?

I've done that before (on purpose;) and had the same problem you
mention.  OTOH, I've never seen this problem on a simple overload setup.

~shrug~

...david

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Re: cisco IOS Security [7:10456]

2001-06-29 Thread James Haynes

Try this link:

www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/cnfg_reg/crmanual/intro.htm



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 I have this command in a book and does not understand what it does
 could anybody explain

 The command is a global command on a cisco 805:


 cns event-service server





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RE: Trace result assistance [7:10398]

2001-06-29 Thread Spencer Penfield

I am new to Networking so I am providing my guess.

It appears to be routing loop and default gateways must have been set as
follows: Default gateway for Hop 5 (164.220.193.65) is 164.220.193.66 and
Default gateway for Hop 6 (164.220.193.66) is 164.220.193.65.  Hop 6 is the
culprit. Possible cause the port (Serial port) is down or less likely
routing table does not have the destination specified.  Check 
164.220.193.66 Router.

SP




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RE: Cisco bug could let hackers control Net traffic [7:10463]

2001-06-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu

yet another reason why people should be very careful about what they do and
why. a bit of security training, and a bit of thought can prevent a lot of
things.

interesting to note that those who have enabled this kewl interface, yet
for whatever reason are using manual local authentication have the problem.

interesting to note that one of the preventions is NOT disabling HTTP
access to the router itself from all but trusted source addresses.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: Wing Tse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:29 PM
To: Daniel E Segovia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco bug could let hackers control Net traffic


4. Cisco bug could let hackers control Net traffic

Networking hardware maker Cisco Systems and the
Computer
Emergency Response Team (CERT) Coordination Center
have warned
of a bug in Cisco routers that could allow hackers to
disrupt
Internet traffic or intercept sensitive information.
The bug,
revealed Thursday, allows an attacker to gain control
of any
Cisco router running certain operating software.
Routers are
devices that control how data moves around the
Internet.
Malicious attackers could stop Internet traffic,
intercept
information such as passwords and credit card numbers,
or
redirect traffic from Web sites.
June 29, 2001, 12:10 p.m. PT
http://two.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?y=eBwi04Sv20U0c6S0Af


--- Daniel E Segovia  wrote:
 Hello Group,

 There will be NO lab meeting on July 7th at Exodus
 due to the holiday.
 We will reconvene for Lab on the 21st. Please see
 the big news below



 July 19th Evening Meeting:

 We are currently working out the details on the
 topic for guest speaker
 from Unitek. It will possibly be about the Bridging
 and Switching added
 to the new CCNA exam.

 Also, there will be a special offer made by Unitek
 for CCNA and CCNP
 classes just for SVCUG members


 BIG NEWS !:

 July 21st Lab will be at the Mt. View CISCO office.
 Please DO NOT go to
 Exodus!  I will be working with David Powers to
 obtain a permanent lab
 location on the main Cisco campus (the corporate
 offices on Tasman).

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Re: MPLS [7:220]

2001-06-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Does anyone have a simple MPLS configuration they could post?


To solve what problem with MPLS?




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Re: Technical Questions [7:10427]

2001-06-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Open Forum might be more up to speed if your free-time consists of working
address plans in binary or looking for probability in the pregnant chads of
Fortran punch cards :o)

There's something wrong with doing address plans in binary?  Best way 
to learn, once you realize you don't have to do all 32 bits in 
binary.  Seriously, when I plan an address structure, and I am 
documenting it, my primary mode is binary, and then converting to 
dotted decimal where appropriate.  Now, when I say planning address 
structures, it often is to say a /19 here, split into 8 /21 for 
areas.

Not boasting here, but when you've been doing these for what...15 
years or so, I can do a fair bit of subnetting in my head. There are 
tricks, but I wouldn't confuse a beginner with them.

I do miss punch cards, though. Blank punch cards were really great 
for shopping lists.




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RE: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]

2001-06-29 Thread Rik Guyler

Is this an Internet router or just an internal router running translation?

Unless you have static translates setup, NAT overload (PAT) will most likely
not allow inbound connections as it tracks ports for outbound and
established connections, not inbound connections.  This is how you are able
to create 64k sessions on a single IP address.  A perfect example of this is
the PIX, which only allows inbound connections on a static translation
throught the use of a conduit.  The PIX will not allow an inbound connection
on a PATed address(es) as it is for outbound connections only.

Is it possible to put a secondary address on the interface and not translate
with that address?  Port redirection might work if you are running IOS FW.
You could redirect telnet requests to the inside interface address.  If
you're not running IOS FW, then there must be some mechanism blocking your
session.

Rik

-Original Message-
From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]


Well, to answer your question, I don't want to telnet to the outside
interface from the inside.  I want to telnet to the outside interface from
the outside, and clearly due to the NAT, the outside interface is the only
interface I can telnet to, and because of this stupid bug, I cannot.  So
basically what it boils down to is that nobody from the outside can ever
telnet into the router, which bites.

And somebody asked what OS and what router I am using.  It is 12.2(1), on a
2514.






Allen May  wrote in message
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 OK I don't have the real answer but it seems that NAT overload is on the
 same IP address that you're trying to telnet to.  That would be kind of
 weird for the box to receive a telnet request from  to the same IP.

 No flames but I'll just throw a suggestion to try (let me know if it
works).
 Try settting up an access-list for NONAT when going to that IP address.
 That will leave the source address alone.  And it looks like you've set up
 an access-list to allow telnet to that interface already but double check
 that.

 I have to ask...why telnet to the outside interface from inside?

 Allen


 - Original Message -
 From: nrf
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:01 AM
 Subject: Strange situation with NAT and telnet [7:10387]


  Hey all:
 
  I have this strange situation where I cannot telnet into my router.
This
 is
  what happens.
 
  I am successfully running NAT (with overload), with no problem.  I can
  telnet into the interface that is the inside NAT with no problem.  I can
  also telnet into any non-NAT interface with no problem.  The problem
 occurs
  when I try to telnet into the interface that is the designated outside
NAT
  interface.  For example, when I fire up telnet from Windows and telnet
to
  that outside NAT interface, it just shows that it is trying to connect,
 but
  it never connects.
 
  Now, I can assure you that connectivity is fine.  I can ping that
 interface.
  People from the inside can get to the outside, with no problem.  So it's
 not
  a routing issue, I am sure.
 
  I have monitored what happens when I try to telnet, as I have an
  access-class on the vty line that allows anything in (permit ip any
any),
  but is set for logging.  So I notice that telnet packets are indeed
being
  permitted by the access-list, meaning the telnet request is hitting the
  router successfully.  On the console, I even get a message saying that
the
  access-list is allowing a telnet packet in.  So everything seems cool.
 But
  somehow the router doesn't want to acknowledge the telnet request.
 
  Does anybody know what is up with that?




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Re: MPLS [7:220]

2001-06-29 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Does anyone have a simple MPLS configuration they could post?


To solve what problem with MPLS?

My guess is the problem of there being no MPLS config on their router. ;-)




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back-to-back [7:10469]

2001-06-29 Thread Michelle Sanderson

I'm trying to get two 1602's and a couple of 2500's (2524/2501) setup into
some kind of lab.  I can't get the 1602's to see each other on the built-in
56k modules.  I've tried service-module settings for clock source
line/internal, speed, network-type, but nothing works.  I made a cable with
pins 1,2 to 4,5 and that works for the T1 modules that I have in the 1602's
and 2524, but not on the built in 56k (in the 1602's).  What am I doing
wrong?  Please tell me how I should make my cable or correct config, or
point me to where it is on the CD.  Thanks for any help, Dave


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Re: let's talk about BGP! [7:10297]

2001-06-29 Thread G30RG3

If you are in a hub and spoke environment and your hub is your as border
router that is getting external routes then by default it will forward all
external routes to its internal BGP neighbor routers.  The purpose of route
reflectors is to have internal BGP routers that do not have a interior
neighbor relationship with the border router get those external routes from
a route reflector.  if you want to try this do it this way.  leave your
setup like it is and add another internal router and run bgp.  have it only
build a neighbor relationship with a spoke router.  then on that spoke
router add the route reflector statements to it.  also your spoke routers
are advertising the same networks that your hub router is advertising.  I
got the impression that you wanted these to be running ibgp not connecting
to an ebgp router.

Hope this helps.

George, Head Janitor, CCNA CCDA
Cisco Systems


CiscoG  wrote in message
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 Hello fellow successful Engineer's;

  For all you BGP gurus, I have a situation here. Currently
 preparing for my BSCN exam, I have a lab at home that I recently
implemented
 BGP on. With only 3 routers, it worked fantastic! Then I decided that
wasn't
 good enough and now I wanted to setup a Route Reflector. In a Hub and
Spoke
 topology, I chose to make the Hub router the Router reflector and have the
 two spoke routers clients. Performing a show ip bgp neighbor on each
 router, displays the correct information and verifies connection is
 established. The problem is, not one router is learning any BGP routes! I
 will post my basic BGP configuration below just to verify that is correct.
 Any ideas on this challenge would be appreciated! Thank you!


 -C


 (Hub Router)
 router bgp 100
 network 172.16.0.0
 network 172.20.0.0
 network 10.0.0.0
 neighbor 172.16.0.2 remote-as 100
 neighbor 172.16.0.2 route-reflector-client
 neighbor 172.20.0.2 remote-as 100
 neighbor 172.20.0.2 route-reflector-client

 (spoke router 1)
 router bgp 100
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 172.16.0.0
 network 172.20.0.0
 neighbor 172.16.0.1 remote-as 100

 (spoke router 2)
 router bgp 100
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 172.16.0.0
 network 172.20.0.0
 neighbor 172.20.0.1 remote-as 100




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Re: 1600 router configuration [7:10290]

2001-06-29 Thread G30RG3

You need an isdn simulator

George, Head Janitor, CCNA CCDA
Cisco Sytems


Andrew Lawrence  wrote in message
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 I'm in desperate need of information on how to connect 2 1600 routers
 together over isdn.

 The networks either side will be different IP addresses. Do I need to
 setup both to dial the other ?

 Any links to resources would be useful, an example config would be
 better !

 I am looking on cisco's site but time is of the essence !

 TIA

 Andy




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Re: Locking down telnet on switch [7:10283]

2001-06-29 Thread G30RG3

Use access class lists on the VTY terminals and that should work.

George, Head Janitor, CCNA CCDA
Cisco Systems


Steve Smith  wrote in message
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 Hey gang is there any way to lock down telnet to a specific node on a
 network like you can a router or switch? I have a 4006 w/L3 card. I can
 access-list the layer 3 card but what about normal telnet to the switch?

 thanks in advance,
 Steve

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 Data Networks Technical Manager
 Freeliant.com
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Specifying username/password on Catalyst 5000/5500 [7:10473]

2001-06-29 Thread tazman

Is there a way to setup individual usernames/passwords on a set based
switch. I know the commands to setup the username/password on a IOS based
box but is there a option to perform the same thing a a set based box like
the Catalyst 5000/5500??? Any help is greatly appreciated.




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RE: back-to-back [7:10469]

2001-06-29 Thread Rik Guyler

That's because the crossover for a T1 is different than 56k.  I believe that
the crossover you need is 1,2 - 7,8 but I'm not sure if my memory is working
all that well or not.  Maybe someone else can confirm or deny this for us.
Or, if you really want to score points with the list, search on Google for
56k crossover and report your findings.  ;-}

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: back-to-back [7:10469]


I'm trying to get two 1602's and a couple of 2500's (2524/2501) setup into
some kind of lab.  I can't get the 1602's to see each other on the built-in
56k modules.  I've tried service-module settings for clock source
line/internal, speed, network-type, but nothing works.  I made a cable with
pins 1,2 to 4,5 and that works for the T1 modules that I have in the 1602's
and 2524, but not on the built in 56k (in the 1602's).  What am I doing
wrong?  Please tell me how I should make my cable or correct config, or
point me to where it is on the CD.  Thanks for any help, Dave


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Re: back-to-back [7:10469]

2001-06-29 Thread G30RG3

For the 56k csu/dsu you can use a rollover cable(console cable).  Make sure
that one router is getting clocking from line and one from internal.

Good Luck

George, Head Janitor, CCNA CCDA
Cisco Systems

Michelle Sanderson  wrote in message
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 I'm trying to get two 1602's and a couple of 2500's (2524/2501) setup into
 some kind of lab.  I can't get the 1602's to see each other on the
built-in
 56k modules.  I've tried service-module settings for clock source
 line/internal, speed, network-type, but nothing works.  I made a cable
with
 pins 1,2 to 4,5 and that works for the T1 modules that I have in the
1602's
 and 2524, but not on the built in 56k (in the 1602's).  What am I doing
 wrong?  Please tell me how I should make my cable or correct config, or
 point me to where it is on the CD.  Thanks for any help, Dave


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RE: back-to-back [7:10469]

2001-06-29 Thread Daniel Cotts

56k uses pins 12 and 78. Swap those.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michelle Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: back-to-back [7:10469]
 
 
 I'm trying to get two 1602's and a couple of 2500's 
 (2524/2501) setup into
 some kind of lab.  I can't get the 1602's to see each other 
 on the built-in
 56k modules.  I've tried service-module settings for clock source
 line/internal, speed, network-type, but nothing works.  I 
 made a cable with
 pins 1,2 to 4,5 and that works for the T1 modules that I have 
 in the 1602's
 and 2524, but not on the built in 56k (in the 1602's).  What 
 am I doing
 wrong?  Please tell me how I should make my cable or correct 
 config, or
 point me to where it is on the CD.  Thanks for any help, Dave
 
 
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RE: Specifying username/password on Catalyst 5000/5500 [7:10473]

2001-06-29 Thread FELIX KISSIEDU

set system name  is the command to assign the hostname name.
set password  is the command to assign the pasword. to assign the password
to go into enable mode use the set enablepass  command.


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RE: HSRP [7:10428]

2001-06-29 Thread Tim Medley

Sam,

I'd use multiple vlan's. Each router has a subinterface in each vlan. 

tim


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Sam Sneed
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP [7:10428]


I think it would help if I gave you the scenario I was envisioning. I
would
like to plan a network where we have 2 seperate routers connecting to
our
ISP or perhaps 2 seperate ISP's. Lets assume 1 ISP, 2 routers ,each with
its
own full T1 line for simplicity. If 1 router died, I'd like to keep the
internet connection alive without changing any of the clients default
gateways. I figured HSRP would be good to apply here becuase it acts as
1
virtual router. But, would that mean that 1 router would be idle at all
times not allowing me to ever get more than 1.5MB bandwidth? Or this
extra
idle T1 line just the cost of redundancy in this case?


Marc  wrote in message
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 HSRP is for router redundancy, not WAN circuit redundancy. If you
wanted
to
 have internet or WAN circuit redundacy, you would of course use two
lines,
 have equal-cost routes (two default routes...etc) and that's all
that's
 involved. HSRP not needed for WAN load-balancing/redundancy...

 Marc


 Sam Sneed  wrote in message
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  I was doing a little research on HSRP and had a question for anyone
who
 has
  configured it. I read the whole RFC 2281 and could not find my
answer
 there.
  If you have two routers running HSRP with T1 lines to the internet,
1 is
 the
  standby and one is the active. Does all traffic only go through the
active
  at all times unless it dies? If so isn't it a waste not ever
utilizing
the
  T1 line thats on standby (of course until the active fails)?
 
  If bandwidth exceeded 1.5MB would the second router kick in to share
the
  load or would it totally take over?
 
  With these 2 routers acting as a single virtual router would
throughput
  ever be able to exceed 1.54 MB assuming each has its own T1
connection?
 
  thanks




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OFF TOPIC RANT - Who Cares? WAS: MPLS [7:220]

2001-06-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu

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Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 5:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MPLS [7:220]


Does anyone have a simple MPLS configuration they could post?

To solve what problem with MPLS?

Oh give it up, Howard. Nobody cares. All they want is The Answer.

I've been kicking around the CCIE list for several months now. People who
want to be CCIE's but don't read the RFC's. Or Comer. Or Stevens. Or
Berkowitz. Or Oppenheimer. Or anything else. Doyle, Halabi, and Caslow -
that's what gets you to the CCIE level! And why should they do otherwise? I
don't recall seeing anything on my lab that made me wish I'd spend more time
studying RFC's. Or TCP/IP theory. In fact just about everything I saw on my
lab made me wish I'd spent less time with the RFC's and more time doing
other things.

How does routing work? How does redistribution work? How does OSPF work? Who
cares? Just give me the configs that will help me pass. If I memorize enough
variations, I'm ready for anything the lab throws my way.

OK. Out of my system. Back to memorizing configs ;-

Chuck




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fast ehternet cables for Cat 5000 [7:10480]

2001-06-29 Thread Omer Ehsan Dar

Hi all, where Can I obtain Fast ethernet cables for a cat 5000 modules
supervisor engine
Thanks
Omer




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