Interconnecting Netware Server and Workstation... [7:19911]

2001-09-13 Thread Tyson Mock

Hello,
Am having difficulty being able to log into Netware 4.11 Server from a
workstation.

Setup is this:
Netware 4.11 Server
Tree: LHS
Context: LHS
Encapsulation: Ethernet_802.2
Network:  EBDCB76E

Server is attached to hub which is attached to E0 int on Router_1
We have Windows 2000 Pro Workstation attached to this hub also and can login
to and manage server (everything works on local network).

Router_1
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX network address of EBDCB76E and encapsulation is SAP
int S0 is DCE, clockrate is 56000, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network EBDCB76E
network 10

Router_2
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX net of 20 and encap is SAP
int S1 is DTE, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network 10
network 20

Windows 2000 Pro Workstation is attached to E0 on Router_2 and IPX address
is 20.  Encap is on auto sense with Novell Client 4.8

Now, I can sh ipx servers and see the LHS services.  Also, sh ipx routes and
I have routes established on both routers.

Am I missing something?




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Re: Policy Based Routing...."ive had enough and i`m not going [7:19910]

2001-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Umm.. it's been a while since I played with access lists, but how about

access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.128 0.0.0.127 any

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Hi,

I think the problem is with your access list.
Try configuring like this,

access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 any

Good Luck

Jins Varghese

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> i am having a slight problem with my Policy based routing config and
would
> be gratefull for your help..
>
> what i am trying to do is this (its quite simple ...it`s just so am i )
>
> all user`s are coming in on the 10.10.10.0  subnet (Eth0) ...
>
> i have two outbound int`s
>
> 11.11.11.11 (S0)
> 12.12.12.12.(bri0)
>
> what i want to do is split the 10.10.10.0 subnet and policy based route
> everything from 10.10.10.1-10.10.10.127 out S0,
> and route 10.10.10.128-10.10.10.256 out the bri0
>
> this doesn`t seem to be working .here is my config ..
>
> thanks in advance steve (i have sent this to the right mailing list
haven`t
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>
> P.S i think it`s the wildcard mask that is stuffedand i also have
EIGRP
> running on the router (old senario test)
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> version 12.2
> service timestamps
> debug uptimeservice timestamps
> log uptime no
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> !
> hostname Router
> !!
> memory-size iomem 25
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> ip audit notify log
> ip audit po max-events 100
> call rsvp-sync!!
> !
> !
> interface BRI0 no ip address
> ip address 12.12.12.12 255.255.255.0
> ip route-cache policy
> ip policy route-map POLICY
> no shutdown
> !
> interface FastEthernet0
> ip address 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.0
> ip route-cache policy (enables fast switching of policy routing...for
speed)
> ip policy route-map POLICY (create  a policy called POLICY)
> !
> interface Serial0
> ip address 12.12.12.12 255.255.255.0
> ip route-cache policy (enable fast switching of policy routing)
>  (create a policy called POLICY)
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.12.12.20
> no ip http serverip
> pim bidir-enable
> !
> access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.128 any
> access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
>
> route-map POLICY permit 10
> match ip address 101
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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19909]

2001-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gareth, your message and Priscilla's are the most sensible posts I have
seen on this topic.

Good luck with the CIT.

I should keep my mouth shut now...

Except... there are reports here of Islamic community groups having their
buildings vandalised and hate messages left on their phones, of women
wearing veils being spat at, of Muslim children on a school bus being
attacked with stones and bottles.  From news reports I know this is also
happening in other countries.
This really saddens me.  Does anyone seriously think that these individuals
had anything to do with the terrorists, or that they support the
terrorist's actions?
I hope everyone focusses on those who organised the terrorism (whoever that
may be), not those who are thought to share the same ethnic background, the
same religion, or even the same dress sense.  Indiscriminate revenge is
exactly what the terrorists did - it is not what the response to terrorism
should be.

JMcL
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He probably wouldn't.
I think we would take on the chin, the same criticism that was aimed in
your
direction. Nobody is perfect.
As a Brit who has served in Ireland along side friends shot down by
terrorists, I still had a feeling of guilt that we had caused the problems
in the first place. That doesn't mean I sympathised with the terrorists.
The Brit's have caused their share of suffering over the years, and like
most European countries, notably Germany, are beginning to be taught, from
a
young age, more about our history with less bias.
I would say that a few US members of the Group have 'visited' other
countries in the last 30 years or so and been in some doubt whether they
are
doing the 'Right Thing'.

We undoubtedly still don't get the whole truth about things going on in the
world today.
Some of the sights I saw during the Gulf war made me more sympathetic to
other nations. Thousands of Iraqi's were pushed into a war by their
dictator, having been brainwashed and facing torture or death if they
didn't
fight, with no weapons, no training, no food, no ammunition, no
communications. We were greeted like liberators by the begging,
surrendering
Iraqi's. When you see the family photographs in the wiped out bunkers it
brings it home.
Right/Wrong is a close call sometimes and we do tend to pigeon hole entire
nations when most of the nation have as much (or probably less) control
over
their nations policies as you or I.

Something needs to be done. I really don't know whether the Gung-Ho
approach
will do it. The terrorists immediately become Martyrs and rally their
nation.
That's probably the sole reason that Saddam Hussein is still around today.

I have no answers,




Which is especially unfortunate as I have a CIT exam in 9 hours.



Our British hearts go out to the people of the US during these terrible
times.
You'll pull through, you always do.







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Digi portserver - CAT 5000 [7:19885]

2001-09-13 Thread Symon Thurlow

Hi All,

I recently purchased a Digi portserver that I use for console access to the
console ports on my lab routers/switch.

I mainly did this in preparation to allow remote access to my lab.

The digi portserver works really well, and I picked it up for only #100 on
ebay (16 ports).

Anyway, I have made up a bunch of RJ45-RJ45 console cables, and have all the
routers working fine.

I was using a modem cable to connect the female DB25 on my CAT5000 to the
DB9 on my PC.

I chopped the DB9 end off the cable, hooked up an RJ45 plug (to the best of
my web searching pin out ability) and now I can watch the POST when I turn
the switch on, but thats it, it just sits at the EARL test done line, and
thats it.

Digi International
PortServer 16
 

ATE0
ATS0=1



Catalyst 5000 Power Up Diagnostics

Init NVRAM Log
LED Test
ROM CHKSUM
DUAL PORT RAM r/w
RAM r/w
RAM address test
Byte/Word Enable test
EARL test
EARL test Done

I can telnet in, the switch is fine, I just can't see anything via the
console cable (that I performance enhanced :) ).

Does anyone have the pinouts for this configuration? I used something that
sort of looked right, but is obviously not.

Cheers,

Symon




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Digi portserver - CAT 5000 [7:19886]

2001-09-13 Thread Symon Thurlow

In addition to this,

I just noticed, I am not getting CTS or DSR lights on the portserver,
whereas I do on all the other succesful connections.

Symon


Hi All,

I recently purchased a Digi portserver that I use for console access to the
console ports on my lab routers/switch.

I mainly did this in preparation to allow remote access to my lab.

The digi portserver works really well, and I picked it up for only #100 on
ebay (16 ports).

Anyway, I have made up a bunch of RJ45-RJ45 console cables, and have all the
routers working fine.

I was using a modem cable to connect the female DB25 on my CAT5000 to the
DB9 on my PC.

I chopped the DB9 end off the cable, hooked up an RJ45 plug (to the best of
my web searching pin out ability) and now I can watch the POST when I turn
the switch on, but thats it, it just sits at the EARL test done line, and
thats it.

Digi International
PortServer 16
 

ATE0
ATS0=1



Catalyst 5000 Power Up Diagnostics

Init NVRAM Log
LED Test
ROM CHKSUM
DUAL PORT RAM r/w
RAM r/w
RAM address test
Byte/Word Enable test
EARL test
EARL test Done

I can telnet in, the switch is fine, I just can't see anything via the
console cable (that I performance enhanced :) ).

Does anyone have the pinouts for this configuration? I used something that
sort of looked right, but is obviously not.

Cheers,

Symon




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-13 Thread Thomas N.

Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes again:

-
video conf. camera
|
  Ethernet0
|
   Router
|
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
|
   ISDN cloud
|
ISDN video conf. camera







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> Sorry I missed my topology:
>
>
> ISDN video  conf. camera
>
> |
> Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
> cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
>
> |
>
> AT&T MCU
>
>
> Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using this
> VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
>
>
>
>
> ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
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> >
> > In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is connected
to
> > the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> module.
> > This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
> > provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is possible
to
> > implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with
> ISDN
> > lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
> >
> > Thomas N.




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Topic of conversation [7:19891]

2001-09-13 Thread Paul

This is the Internet!  It is available around the world to many different
people with even more varied backgrounds and beliefs. We each have our own
views and ideas as to the way things do or do not work!

This is a discussion group with a very focused common goal which we all seem
to share (otherwise we wouldn't subscribe)! If you feel you need to give your
opinion about a non related subject please mark it so with OT

Thanks, Paul




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Re: NAT & PAT Cost & Latency [7:19899]

2001-09-13 Thread Carroll Kong

If you use NAT, you are generally just trying to hide ips, or trying to 
shovel many ips of one domain (in the mathematical sense) into another 
smaller domain.  If you use NAPT (or the Cisco term, PAT), you are 
multiplexing connections against ips + ports, instead of just IPs.  Of 
course then you get a many to one cardinality.  (hence the concept of "ip 
sharing").  The problem with this is sometimes people need specific 
listening ports for certain applications, and this can pose serious 
problems.  So, people may run into "issues" with those 
applications.  Fortunately, cisco has some built in "light-weight" proxying 
which enables you to use quite a few features with no problems.  Most 
vendors will call this "application support with NAT" (which they really 
mean NAPT, or Cisco PAT).  I generally do not use Cisco's NAPT that often 
so I do not know the details of which proxies are available.

Some applications that will have issues are
-Active FTP
-Any server application which has a "well-known" incoming port

In terms of performance, unless you got one of those really crappy cisco 
boxes doing a bit more than their feeble processors can dig, there is 
nearly no performance loss.  Essentially, it is like a single ACL hit and 
then a translation which should be fast (hash table access probably).

Your costs will be dealing with the many to smaller many issues (when you 
run out of static NATs to do, think combo of static NAT for the important 
ips and PAT to avoid this).

Also if you choose to go purely with PAT, be aware of the issues with some 
applications that are "server like" in nature.

Hope this clears some stuff up.  Of course, you can always go to... heehe
www.cisco.com
or any other web site with white papers, AKA
ip masquerading for linux
ipfilter for openbsd, freebsd, netbsd, solaris, and hp-ux
ipfw for freebsd

(yeah I know you said no wise cracks, but hey, I could not resist!).

At 12:06 AM 9/14/01 -0400, Circusnuts wrote:
>Has anyone come across performance specs, statistics, or costs (latency or
>otherwise) for NAT & PAT services ???
>
>Thanks
>Phil
>
>PS- no wise-acre's please, I know all about www.Cisco.com :o)
-Carroll Kong




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-13 Thread Thomas N.

Sorry I missed my topology:


ISDN video  conf. camera

|
Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
cloud---ISDN video conf. camera

|

AT&T MCU


Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using this
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?




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>
> In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is connected to
> the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
module.
> This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
> provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is possible to
> implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with
ISDN
> lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
>
> Thomas N.




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Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-13 Thread Thomas N.

Hi All,

In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is connected to
the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module.
This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is possible to
implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with ISDN
lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!

Thomas N.




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CCIE Security [7:19904]

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Jia

Hi,

Has anybody took CCIE security recently?
What books/training material do you use?
Is there some books like the Exam Cram book?
Is there any useful URLs,sample tests?

I have passed the Routing Switching exam and working
on a security exam.

Thanks
Michael




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RE: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19903]

2001-09-13 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (CEI-Atlanta)

C'mon, peeps; this isn't getting anywhere. Any serious
political/religious/philosophical/etc discussion sure as hell shouldn't
be taking place on a Cisco Study Group mailing list. Take it outside
already
GM




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Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]

2001-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unless things have changed in the past year or so, you cannot build a Pix on 
a PC.  The PIX has a proprietary OS, which is specifically touted as NOT 
being portable to a PC platform.  Since the OS is proprietary, it is 
considered less subject to attack than those sitting on known and vulnerable 
(MS & unix) operating systems.

Hope this helps

Joe
In a message dated 9/13/01 10:54:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Anyone have the information for building a Pix box on
a PC!

Tmuzaina




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IOS image file names [7:19901]

2001-09-13 Thread Omer Ehsan Dar

Hi all,
First my condolances to the victims of the attack in NewYork and
Pentagon. No words can describe that emotion one feels after watching
the events live.

I wanted to ask about IOS image file namesI have three IOS with
extension bin but two IOS have the following names c5200-boot-l.112-17.P
and c2500-i-l.112-18.112-18

Can I change the names to noraml .bin files or not?
Also, If i wanted to change of the IOS in flash to read/write from read
what do i do?

Thank all
Omer Dar




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Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19900]

2001-09-13 Thread Erlend Ringstad

Karl,

you need help, you are sick.

It's people like you whom makes it possible for other humans(?) like
Usamah bin Muhammad bin Awad bin Ladin to continue his insane
mission.

I urge all of you to keep the USA bombing incident away from any 
email list you are on. It will not result in anything good.

Cisco rules =)



At 00:28 14.09.2001, you wrote:
>Dear Apologist for Genocide
>
>I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and I would simply point out that in
>most of the so called Muslim countries I have been to and seen, intolerance
>is a watchword for daily life.
>
>The usual one party states or army states with a poor and ill educated
>population mostly led by men who profess their religion and humility before
>some god and profit greatly from the poor and the disenfranchised.
>
>Women are subjugated and mere breeders, young men used as cannon fodder in
>some so called holy war which turns out to have more in common with a wallet
>than a valuation of human life.
>
>How dare you complain about insults to a so called religion who's members
>excuse their crimes through some so called god and lies.  What am I to
>expect nowa Fatwah of death (a.k.a. Salman Rushdh) because I have a
>contary opinion.  You intolerance to the "insults" of your so called
>religion are quite simply unbelievable.
>
>I have fought terrorists and been injured as a result, they (the terrorists)
>always excuse themselves through religion when really criminal behaviour and
>greed is what they wish to hide.  It does not matter whether it is the great
>sky god of the Roman Catholic faith and the scum of the IRA or the immature
>rantings of the most recent hate filled Mullah.  There is the EVIL.
>
>I strongly suggest that those who are apologists for murder and cannot
>tolerate democracy would be very wise at this juncture to hold their
>tongues.  I can understand why you would not wish this thread to continue as
>it might draw attention away from the criminal activities of this so called
>murderous cult.  I know much of Islam and know down through history how the
>concept of Holy War is abused by men time and time again!  It is a religion
>that has not come out of the middle ages and should have been left there.
>
>I have the deepest shock at what I have seen and understand clearly how
>powerless America was at that instant.  There was no mercy and the name of
>Allah was invoked...that was evil and until the Muslim world
>categorically removes itself from that evil and hands up its
>criminals/terrorists then at least I and I think many others will judge it
>to be evil.  I'm sorry if some faint hearts found this upsettingthe poor
>dears..at least they are alive!
>
>Karl
>- Original Message -
>From: "Thad Gaston" 
>To: "hal9001" ; 
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:14 PM
>Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our
>arrogance' [7:19819]
>
>
>All and Paul
>
>As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the
>religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested
>along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both
>distracting and upsetting.
>
>Best Regards
>
>-Original Message-
>From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:49 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
>[7:19819]
>
>
>Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that
>encourages
>this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
>cult!
>
>Karl
>- Original Message -
>From: "John Mairs"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
>Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
>[7:19726]
>
>
>> aaammen!
>>
>> Allah be paved!
>>
>>
>> --- ed smith  wrote:
>> > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
>> > steam off! Who the hell
>> > cares about CISCO right now?
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > >From: "Thad Gaston" >To: "ed smith" , >Subject: RE:
>> > 'It's not the US
>> > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
>> > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep
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>> > >Thread-Index:
>> > AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg > >All, > >I
>> > would discourage any
>> > further post regarding this topic as it becoming
>> > >more and more useless
>> > and distracting. None of our sentiments are going
>> > >to bring back the
>> > lives of those that have passed on nor bring about
>> 

NAT & PAT Cost & Latency [7:19899]

2001-09-13 Thread Circusnuts

Has anyone come across performance specs, statistics, or costs (latency or
otherwise) for NAT & PAT services ???

Thanks
Phil

PS- no wise-acre's please, I know all about www.Cisco.com :o)




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Re: ISDN backup problem [7:19894]

2001-09-13 Thread Nigel Taylor

Alvin,
If I'm not mistaken you BRI circuits should have two(2) channels.
Why not simply set R1 to dial the core on the
1st channel and R2 on the 2nd.   Of course you would have to change the
configuration on your core router for to support Dialer Profiles
so you could receive both calls simultaneously   If made the config
additions you'll need below.  I don't know what routing protocol
you're using if any so I'd suggest using floating statics so as long as the
primary path is down the ISDN circuit will
be the default path out of the network. If there's a dynamic routing
protocol(I'm thinking based on the "broadcast" keyword in the BRI config)
already running between the "core" router and R1 and R2,  I'm assuming the
ISDN isn't configured based on you're use of the "backup interface"
command.  Anyway, just some thoughts and things to consider...  NOTE: ***
You could look at creating a loopback interface on the core router
and using the "ip unnumbered loopback" command under the dialer profiles
for each connection this way you maintain the existing IP scheme.

The configs for  R1 and R2 should stay pretty much the same except R1 will
use the # for BRI line 1 on the CORE router and R2 will use the 2nd..


Router_CORE

interface BRI4/0
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer pool-member 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication chap
hold-queue 75 in

interface Dialer1   
dialer string  
dialer-group 1
dialer pool 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication chap
hold-queue 75 in

b
interface Dialer1   
dialer string  
dialer-group 2
dialer pool 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication chap
hold-queue 75 in

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
dialer-list 2 protocol ip list 101

access-list 101 permit ip any any

- Original Message -
From: "Alvin Chong" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:41 PM
Subject: ISDN backup problem [7:19894]


> Hi all,
>
> I have a core router connected to 2 other regional
> routers, with only 1 ISDN backup. The config is as
> below:
>
> Unfortunately these 2 regional routers down at the
> same time and both keep trying to dial up the ISDN
> line. The result is both of them unable to get the
> connection. What should I do at the very first step?
> Pls advice. Thanks
>
> Router1
>
> interface Serial0/0
>  backup delay 0 10
>  backup interface BRI0/0
>  ip address 172.200.100.50 255.255.255.252
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  service-policy output llq
>  ip rtp header-compression
> !
> interface BRI0/0
>  ip address 172.200.95.3 255.255.255.240
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer map ip 172.200.95.1 name Router_CORE broadcast
> 12345678
>  dialer load-threshold 20 outbound
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-net3
>  ppp authentication chap
>
>
> Router2
>
> interface Serial0/0
>  backup delay 0 10
>  backup interface BRI0/0
>  ip address 172.200.100.54 255.255.255.252
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  service-policy output llq
>  ip rtp header-compression
> !
> interface BRI0/0
>  ip address 172.200.95.2 255.255.255.240
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer map ip 172.200.95.1 name Router_CORE broadcast
> 12345678
>  dialer load-threshold 20 outbound
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-net3
>  ppp authentication chap
>
>
> Router_CORE
>
> interface BRI4/0
>  ip address 172.200.95.1 255.255.255.240
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer map ip 172.200.95.2 name Router1 broadcast
>  dialer map ip 172.200.95.3 name Router2 broadcast
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-net3
>  ppp authentication chap
>  hold-queue 75 in
>
>
> regards
> alvin chong
>
>
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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19896]

2001-09-13 Thread Rob Bains

No to agree or disagree with any sides of the arguments here, I commend  our
good friend
Priscilla for this very insightful response.  I couldn't agree with you
more.  As we all
know, stress and anger will always drive humans to irresponsible statements
and
irrational decisions.  Again, hopefully people can follow your blueprint
here to cope
with this tragedy and be the pillars of support for those in great need at
this time
rather than making premature judgments and  justify actions that they
otherwise wouldn't
dare in a better state of mind.

Just my $0.02 worth.  No need to start another flame war, please!

= > Rob

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> The original poster was trying to help us see the point of view of the
> terrorists. He didn't say that he agreed with them. Understanding their
> viewpoint will help us prepare for further evil deeds from them and help us
> defeat them. Know thy enemy. This is logical. What the poster didn't
> understand is that we are grieving and not ready for logic.
>
> According to Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, there are five stages of grief.
>
> 1. Denial
> 2. Anger
> 3. Bargaining
> 4. Depression
> 5. Acceptance
>
> Many people are still in the anger stage. This is not a good time to be
> sending e-mails. They come out all wrong. Let's avoid the topic until
> everyone calms down.
>
> Peace,
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 06:57 AM 9/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >How lovely.
> >
> >Reeta, eloquent drivel disguised as intellectualism is still drivel. I'm
> >saddened that you feel the need to rationalize and excuse murder on such a
> >scale and by such means. I also find it puts you in the same category as
> >those who would commit such atrocities. Interestingly enough, do you think
> >you would be able to voice a similar tirade in other parts of the world?
> >You speak of us and them, where is it you hail from Reeta? Perhaps you can
> >advise us here in America how you handle such "us versus them" issues?
> >Hmmm? Oh wait, based on your essay I think I see how you would handle such
> >a quandary.
> >
> >Your ridiculous manifesto is nothing but a thinly veiled approval form for
> >the human sewage that committed this act. Your attempt to rationalize it
> >sickens me. It's always ever so much easier to cloak things like this in
> >terms that make it all seem like an academic exercise. Terrorism is indeed
> >about people, as you so stated, and when you have people in this world who
> >will stop at nothing to destroy others, or to advance their own fanatical
> >beliefs, there are going to be tragic consequences.
> >
> >I had no intention of responding to this long winded "analysis" of yours,
> >it is flawed both logically and factually. As such I will cut short my
> >reply. I would certainly hate to seem arrogant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"mehrzee@vsnl
> > .net"To:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com

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Re: ATTN Paul [7:19893]

2001-09-13 Thread EA Louie

at the news.groupstudy.com newsserver, there is a groupstudy.sideband
newsgroup

- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Duchin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: ATTN Paul [7:19893]


> Perhaps we need an OT newsgroup for other related world and tech news?
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ISDN backup problem [7:19894]

2001-09-13 Thread Alvin Chong

Hi all,

I have a core router connected to 2 other regional
routers, with only 1 ISDN backup. The config is as
below:

Unfortunately these 2 regional routers down at the
same time and both keep trying to dial up the ISDN
line. The result is both of them unable to get the
connection. What should I do at the very first step?
Pls advice. Thanks

Router1

interface Serial0/0
 backup delay 0 10
 backup interface BRI0/0
 ip address 172.200.100.50 255.255.255.252
 no ip mroute-cache
 service-policy output llq
 ip rtp header-compression
!
interface BRI0/0
 ip address 172.200.95.3 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 172.200.95.1 name Router_CORE broadcast
12345678
 dialer load-threshold 20 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap


Router2

interface Serial0/0
 backup delay 0 10
 backup interface BRI0/0
 ip address 172.200.100.54 255.255.255.252
 no ip mroute-cache
 service-policy output llq
 ip rtp header-compression
!
interface BRI0/0
 ip address 172.200.95.2 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 172.200.95.1 name Router_CORE broadcast
12345678
 dialer load-threshold 20 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap


Router_CORE

interface BRI4/0
 ip address 172.200.95.1 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 172.200.95.2 name Router1 broadcast
 dialer map ip 172.200.95.3 name Router2 broadcast
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
 hold-queue 75 in


regards
alvin chong


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ATTN Paul [7:19893]

2001-09-13 Thread Jeff Duchin

Perhaps we need an OT newsgroup for other related world and tech news?




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RE: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19890]

2001-09-13 Thread Fenech, William J

Thad,

just FYI, Islam also sanctioned slavery. In fact, there is evidence that
there are people that still practice slavery, specifically having Black
African slaves, in the countries of Sudan and Mauritania.

Slavery in the Arab, and Muslim worlds was probably never on the scale
of what happened in the America's, but it happened nonetheless. It is
not hatred to point this out, it is the sad reality of the human race.

-Original Message-
From: Thad Gaston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy.
[7:19879]


Karl,

It is clear that you are dealing with some serious issues. It is also
clear that you are ignorant as to the belief, practice and traditions of
Islam and Muslims. What you cleary continue to point back to is the acts
of MEN. 

Ofcourse you as an opportunist would take this time to get on your "soap
box". But also as an African American man need I remind you of the
attrocities committed on American soil against slaves in the name of
"Democracy". So while you ride your high-horse. Let me also remind you
that people such as yourself actually perpetuate what is truly a CULT
mentality.

I take it your solution now is to nuke any muslim in the world. Wipe out
the 1 billion plus people that live in all areas and corners of the
world. That live, work, and contribute to establish peace. It is sad to
see this type of banter and clear dissolution make it to this list and
even worse the hatred that is concealed in the hearts of people like
you.

Thaddeus Gaston

PS

All,

I apologize to all on the list. I will no longer acknowledge this
thread. May justice be served to those who are responsible for this act
and may the truth of these matter come to light. May Allah have mercy on
all of the victims and families of this act.

-Original Message-
From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:14 PM
To: Thad Gaston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy.
It's our arrogance' [7:19819]


Dear Apologist for Genocide

I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and I would simply point out that
in
most of the so called Muslim countries I have been to and seen,
intolerance
is a watchword for daily life.

The usual one party states or army states with a poor and ill educated
population mostly led by men who profess their religion and humility
before
some god and profit greatly from the poor and the disenfranchised.

Women are subjugated and mere breeders, young men used as cannon fodder
in
some so called holy war which turns out to have more in common with a
wallet
than a valuation of human life.

How dare you complain about insults to a so called religion who's
members
excuse their crimes through some so called god and lies.  What am I to
expect nowa Fatwah of death (a.k.a. Salman Rushdh) because I have a
contary opinion.  You intolerance to the "insults" of your so called
religion are quite simply unbelievable.

I have fought terrorists and been injured as a result, they (the
terrorists)
always excuse themselves through religion when really criminal behaviour
and
greed is what they wish to hide.  It does not matter whether it is the
great
sky god of the Roman Catholic faith and the scum of the IRA or the
immature
rantings of the most recent hate filled Mullah.  There is the EVIL.

I strongly suggest that those who are apologists for murder and cannot
tolerate democracy would be very wise at this juncture to hold their
tongues.  I can understand why you would not wish this thread to
continue as
it might draw attention away from the criminal activities of this so
called
murderous cult.  I know much of Islam and know down through history how
the
concept of Holy War is abused by men time and time again!  It is a
religion
that has not come out of the middle ages and should have been left
there.

I have the deepest shock at what I have seen and understand clearly how
powerless America was at that instant.  There was no mercy and the name
of
Allah was invoked...that was evil and until the Muslim world
categorically removes itself from that evil and hands up its
criminals/terrorists then at least I and I think many others will judge
it
to be evil.  I'm sorry if some faint hearts found this upsettingthe
poor
dears..at least they are alive!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "Thad Gaston" 
To: "hal9001" ; 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's
our
arrogance' [7:19819]


All and Paul

As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the
religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested
along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both
distracting and upsetting.

Best Regards

-Original Message-
From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, Septembe

Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19889]

2001-09-13 Thread Gareth Hinton

He probably wouldn't.
I think we would take on the chin, the same criticism that was aimed in your
direction. Nobody is perfect.
As a Brit who has served in Ireland along side friends shot down by
terrorists, I still had a feeling of guilt that we had caused the problems
in the first place. That doesn't mean I sympathised with the terrorists.
The Brit's have caused their share of suffering over the years, and like
most European countries, notably Germany, are beginning to be taught, from a
young age, more about our history with less bias.
I would say that a few US members of the Group have 'visited' other
countries in the last 30 years or so and been in some doubt whether they are
doing the 'Right Thing'.

We undoubtedly still don't get the whole truth about things going on in the
world today.
Some of the sights I saw during the Gulf war made me more sympathetic to
other nations. Thousands of Iraqi's were pushed into a war by their
dictator, having been brainwashed and facing torture or death if they didn't
fight, with no weapons, no training, no food, no ammunition, no
communications. We were greeted like liberators by the begging, surrendering
Iraqi's. When you see the family photographs in the wiped out bunkers it
brings it home.
Right/Wrong is a close call sometimes and we do tend to pigeon hole entire
nations when most of the nation have as much (or probably less) control over
their nations policies as you or I.

Something needs to be done. I really don't know whether the Gung-Ho approach
will do it. The terrorists immediately become Martyrs and rally their
nation.
That's probably the sole reason that Saddam Hussein is still around today.

I have no answers,




Which is especially unfortunate as I have a CIT exam in 9 hours.



Our British hearts go out to the people of the US during these terrible
times.
You'll pull through, you always do.







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> I am curious if our non-American friend would attempt to defend the
British
> government and their history of "foriegn
> policy"?
> - Original Message -
> From: "A non-American"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:20 PM
> Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> [7:19805]
>
>
> > Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of
death
> or
> > life imprisonment ?
> >
> > The facts as I see them are -
> >
> > A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they
received.
> My
> > heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to
> help!
> >
> > B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
> > retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than
> knee-jerk.
> > Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to
assume
> > that they are less intelligent than yourselves.
> >
> > C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
> government
> > for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
> spilt
> > by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
> > attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against
> these
> > people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
> else
> > out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find
these
> > people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the
same
> > time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for
tat
> > mess Israel is in...
> >
> > I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
> > semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not
to
> > mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion.
The
> > level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US
is
> > disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty
good
> > idea.
> >
> > Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the
> news
> > from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.
> >
> > A non-American
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Fenech, William J
> > Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> > [7:19699]
> >
> >
> > Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The
people
> > who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be
> > exterminated, pure and simple.




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Cisco PIX [7:19888]

2001-09-13 Thread Hirsch, Herb

Hi Mike
Please count me in please, I have access to a CCO account.
Thanks
Herb

""mike johnson"" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > For those who are interested in learning Cisco PIX but
> > > > do NOT want to spend a lot of money on buying an
> > > > expensive PIX Firewall, I think I can help you. I
> > > > have instructions on how to build a PIX firewall by
> > > > using a PC. In case you didn't know, PIX firewall is




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RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19887]

2001-09-13 Thread Fenech, William J

Several points here

A. I don't underestimate these people, not at all. They have shown what they
are
capable of. I want to annihilate them, exterminate them, whatever euphemism
you prefer, by any means necessary. Incidentally, you mention we live in a 
Nuclear world. If these filth had Nuclear weapons, they would not for a
second
hesitate to use them. After the events of two days ago, if you honestly
believe
that they wouldn't use nukes, or chemicals, or anthrax, you are an abject
idiot.

B. If you think that the US is responsible for the IRA and the Protestants
killing each other in Northern Ireland, you are seriously deluding yourself.
That all goes back to way before the United States came into existence.

C. The US must look inwards??? Thats some great hyperbole. Were the US and 
Britain looking inwards during World War II when we were firebombing Dresden
and Hamburg? Were they asking themselves, "What could we possibly have done
to provoke Hitler into invading most of Europe, into commiting such horrible
atrocities? Where does his pain come from? What is this war of ours going to
solve?" We weren't asking ourselves that, and we shouldn't have been. That 
was war, as is what this is. And if you give me this horsecrap about how
these 
situations aren't comparable, I will tell you that these people, if they had
the 
ability, would push the nation of Israel into the Mediterranean, just as
they
would destroy us.

D. I'm a shortwave radio listener, so I hear a lot of non-US mediathe
BBC,
Radio Nederlands, Radio Havana, others, you name it (actually, you can pick
up
the BBC on local FM stations around here). I'm fully aware of many of the
actions
and policies of the US government, and also fully aware of how other
countries
view us, like us, hate us, whatever. I know why terrorists from the
Middle-East
hate us. They think we are anti-Islam (despite the fact that we fought the
Serbs
to help the Bosnian Muslims and the Kosovar Albanian Muslims, what a joke
that was) 
they don't like the fact we support Israel, its an affront to them that we
have 
military personnel in Saudi Arabia, blah, blah, blah.

None of the above justifies what happened in New York. None of it.

To stop it from happening again, these people must die. Because if they are
not wiped
out, it will happen again. Guaranteed.

-Original Message-
From: A non-American [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19805]


Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of death or
life imprisonment ?

The facts as I see them are -

A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they received. My
heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to help!

B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than knee-jerk.
Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to assume
that they are less intelligent than yourselves.

C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US government
for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been spilt
by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against these
people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody else
out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find these
people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same
time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat
mess Israel is in...

I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not to
mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion. The
level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is
disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good
idea.

Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the news
from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.

A non-American




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Fenech, William J
Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19699]


Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The people
who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be
exterminated, pure and simple.




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Re: Alteon Switch manual [7:19861]

2001-09-13 Thread Robert Hanley

Ali;Alteon Webstystems was bought by Nortel Networks about a year ago. The
best place to go looking for documentation would
be:http://support.alteonwebsystems.com/dest/LoginYou will either need an
authorised login or may register for 90 days of free access if you have
purchased the product. You will be asked what product you purchased and
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have the manual in pdf format of the> Alteon switch model AD2. If> anyone
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Re: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]

2001-09-13 Thread Jim Bond

Looks like it's a split-tunnel problem. Once you lunch
VPN, all traffic will be encrypted, other local
machines couldn't decrypt the data. You can enable
split-tunnel on 3000, tell it only traffic to your
main office needs to be encrypted.

HTH.

Jim

--- George Kallingal  wrote:
> I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client
> software and how it binds its
> driver to a network card.
> 
> We have an NT server that we are connecting to a
> remote network using the
> Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I
> believe).  Upon connection
> through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other
> servers on the local
> network.  Is there a way to maintain the local area
> connection while
> connected over VPN?  I tried to multi-home the
> server and unbind the DNE
> driver for one network card, but that just disabled
> the network card.
> 
> Has anyone experienced this before?  Are there any
> workarounds? Fixes?  Or
> does this require a call to Cisco TAC?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> George
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Re: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]

2001-09-13 Thread EA Louie

As opposed to the Nortel Extranet client (which allows local and VPN network
access), the Cisco (nee Altiga) client completely binds the interface when
the tunnel is up.  I experimented with this particular problem in December
for the same capability (access to local and remote-over-VPN servers), and
Cisco at the time said that 'split tunnelling' would be a future feature.
(We therefore went with the Nortel Extranet solution)  They may have changed
their position, but the client was not written to support that function.

I use the Extranet client for remote access to my corporate network now, and
I'm glad that the split tunnelling is enabled - allows me to read my work
email and access work servers, with direct access to the Internet (small
improvement in latency when compared to going through my Corporate net, and
probably a 'bandwidth savings' - if no split tunnel, my Internet traffic
would hit our Corporate Internet Access connection 4 times...one inbound
request, one outbound request, one inbound response, one outbound response).
Our CorpNet folks are going to start providing personal firewall software
for us, though, exactly for the security reason mentioned below.

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]


> sounds like a split tunnel issue. I believe split tunneling is turned off
by
> default.
>
> if this is the case, here is the explanation:
>
> the model for VPN is a user station connecting to a corporate network
> through the internet. There is an issue with having an open internet net
> connection on  a remote user machine while connected via a VPN to the Corp
> net. the user machine can be compromised by an internet hacker, who then
has
> access to corporate through the user connection.
>
> split tunnel is the term for this situation - having an open connection to
> the local internet at the same time one has a secure connection via a VPN
> tunnel. Because this is considered a real security risk, most VPN client
> software turns this feature off by default.
>
> you should be able to find the required settings in the config guide, so
you
> can permit split tunneling.
>
> although I gotta say, if I understand you correctly, you would be opening
up
> your server to compromise  from the internet. why not do the VPN tunnel
> through an edge device, like a router? Site to site VPN?
>
> HTH
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> George Kallingal
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]
>
>
> I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client software and how it binds its
> driver to a network card.
>
> We have an NT server that we are connecting to a remote network using the
> Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I believe).  Upon connection
> through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other servers on the local
> network.  Is there a way to maintain the local area connection while
> connected over VPN?  I tried to multi-home the server and unbind the DNE
> driver for one network card, but that just disabled the network card.
>
> Has anyone experienced this before?  Are there any workarounds? Fixes?  Or
> does this require a call to Cisco TAC?
>
> Thanks.
>
> George
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RE: HSRP/Spanning Tree issue??? [7:19639]

2001-09-13 Thread TRAISTER, BLAKE (SBCI)

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Configs attached

Blake

- -Original Message-
From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP/Spanning Tree issue??? [7:19639]


You are correct that, not only should it work, but you don't need
Spanning
Tree unless you have more than one connection between the two
switches.

As an aside, make sure you are trunking on the link between the two
switches..

- From what you're described, I don't see why this wouldn't
work.

Can you e-mail me a copy of your configs (from the two 7200s and
3548s).
Perhaps that might help.

Mike W.


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>
> I have 2 Cisco 7200s, with 3 interfaces.  We will call them
> routerleft and routerright.  They are connected via their ethernet
> interfaces to 2 switches:  Catalyst 3548XLs, switchleft and
> switchright.  The switches are divided into 3 vlans each:  vlan1,
> vlan2, vlan3.  The switches are connected via their Gi ports
> (essentially to mirror each other.
>
> So
>
> Router right fa1/0 goes to switchright:port 1, vlan 1, fa 1/1 to
> port 1, vlan2 (port 17), and fa 2/1 to port 1, vlan3 (port 33).
> Router left fa1/0 goes to switchleft:port 1, vlan 1, fa 1/1 to port
> 1, vlan2 (port 17), and fa 2/1 to port 1, vlan3 (port 33).
>
> Each router interface is running HSRP...so routerright fa 1/0 is
> hsrp with router left fa 1/0 and so on with each interface
>
> Router right interfaces have priority preempt set to 120 and router
> left has priority preempt 100
>
> We are doing just fine until I plug router right into the switch
> right interfacesObviously there is a spanning tree loops and
> ports start blocking.
>
> So then...I turn off spanning tree in all vlansand the hsrp
> starts flapping.every 2 minutes or so there is a 30 second
> state change...
>
> Is there some way I can get the routers to shut up...let one be
> active the other be standby and still have everything connected?  I
> currently do it with Extreme Summit 48s..spanning tree is
> completely offand its works fine...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Blake
>
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Building configuration...

Current configuration : 1820 bytes
!
version 12.1
service tcp-keepalives-in
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname flight-r2
!
enable secret 5 
enable password 
!
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 description Test to local lan
 ip address 216.65.215.120 255.255.255.240
 shutdown
 half-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet1/0
 description to PIX inside
 ip address 216.154.239.253 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 standby 3 timers 10 40
 standby 3 priority 100 preempt
 standby 3 ip 216.154.239.254
!
interface FastEthernet1/1
 description to http layer
 ip address 192.168.240.253 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 standby 5 priority 100 preempt
 standby 5 ip 192.168.240.254
!
interface FastEthernet2/0
 ip address 192.168.241.253 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 speed auto
 full-duplex
 no mop enabled
 standby 7 priority 100 preempt
 standby 7 ip 192.168.241.254
!
interface FastEthernet2/1
 no ip address
 shutdown
 duplex auto
 speed auto
!
interface Serial3/0
 ip address 192.168.242.2 255.255.255.0
 fair-queue
 serial restart-delay 0
!
interface Serial3/1
 no ip address
 shutdown
 serial restart-delay 0
!
interface Serial3/2
 no ip address
 shutdown
 serial restart-delay 0
!
interface Serial3/3
 no ip address
 shutdown
 serial restart-delay 0
!
router eigrp 10
 redistribute static
 network 192.168.240.0
 network 192.168.241.0
 network 192.168.242.0
 network 192.168.248.0
 network 216.154.239.0
 auto-summary
 eigrp log-neighbor-changes
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 216.154.239.249
ip route 206.170.129.192 255.255.255.192 192.168.242.1
no ip http server
!
no cdp run
snmp-server community  RO
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 
 login
!
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Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname idc-switch1
!
enable secret 5 
!
!
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interfa

Re: Dual FIFO? [7:19691]

2001-09-13 Thread John Neiberger

You may be correct but I don't know how this would work.  What populates
each queue?  Do fragmented packets go in one and non-fragmented in the
other?  That doesn't make much sense to me.  

However, upon more reflection maybe it does make some sense.  If the voice
packets aren't fragmented then they'd all end up in one queue while all
other traffic that was fragmented would be in the other.  Within a queue
FIFO rules would apply and the queues would be serviced in a round robin
fashion.  This would allow more frequent attention to the voice packets.

Now, what happens when I also have LLQ configured??  In that case you have
two classes: one for voice which gets a strict priority queue and the other
for everything else.  I have WFQ applied to the second class.  How does dual
FIFO apply here?

I just don't see how LLQ (or CBWFQ), WFQ, and dual FIFO can work together. 
In light of recent events, my mind has used up a lot of its processing power
on other things.  Perhaps it's just too depleted to comprehend this yet. 
  Actually, I just need a really good nap.

Thanks,
John

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:57:14 -0400, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

|  Voice is in a different queue than data, so there are two queues (hence
the 
|  dual)??
|  
|  At 03:09 PM 9/13/01, John Neiberger wrote:
|  >I understand that concept but I haven't been able to connect that to the
|  >dual FIFO queue.  How does fragmentation relate to the dual queue?  If I
|  >follow Cisco's suggestion and use a fragmentation size of 1600 then no
|  >fragmentation is actually occurring, yet the dual FIFO queue is
|  >implemented.
|  >
|  >I have this nagging feeling that I'm just missing something that I
|  >should have figured out by now.
|  
|  Or maybe the documentation writer was just missing something?? ;-)
|  
|  Priscilla
|  
|  
|  >Thanks,
|  >John
|  >
|  > >>> "MADMAN"  9/13/01 9:01:55 AM >>>
|  >The bottom line is you fragment data packets, never voice, so that a
|  >voice packets, which are small, never get queued behind a 1500 byte
|  >packet.  The rule of thumb I think is you don't want more than 150ms
|  >delay in any voice packets or you may as well dump it.
|  >
|  >   dave
|  >
|  >Stephen Skinner wrote:
|  > >
|  > > the only thing i could find was this
|  > >
|  > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.pdf
|  > >
|  > > which says
|  > >
|  > > "Turn on fragmentation for low speed links (less than 1.5Mbps).
|  > > Set the fragment size so voice packets are not fragmented and do not
|  > > experience a serialization delay greater than 20 ms.
|  > >
|  > > Lowest Link Speed in Path Recommended Fragmentation Size
|  > >
|  > > 56Kbps 70 bytes
|  > > 64Kbps 80 bytes
|  > > 128Kbps 160 bytes
|  > > 256Kbps 320 bytes
|  > > 512Kbps 640 bytes
|  > > 768Kbps 1000 bytes
|  > > 1536Kbps 1600 bytes
|  > >
|  > > Note: For 1536 Kbps, no fragmentation is technically needed, but
|  > > fragmentation is needed to enable the dual first-in, first-out
|  > > (FIFO) queueing system to ensure voice quality. A fragment size of
|  >1600
|  > > bytes enables the dual FIFO, but since 1600 bytes is
|  > > higher than the typical serial interface maximum transmission unit
|  >(MTU),
|  > > large data packets are not fragmented.
|  > >
|  > > from what it says it`s just multple "stack" queue
|  > >
|  > > sorry i can`t be of more help..
|  > >
|  > > Cheers
|  > >
|  > > steve
|  > > >From: "John Neiberger"
|  > > >Reply-To: "John Neiberger"
|  > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  > > >Subject: Dual FIFO? [7:19691]
|  > > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:34:53 -0400
|  > > >
|  > > >When configuring VoIP on T-1 links, I see that CCO suggests turning
|  >on
|  > > >frame relay fragmentation with a fragment size of 1600 simply to
|  >turn on
|  > > >the dual fifo queue.  What is that?  I'm familiar with the single
|  >fifo
|  > > >but what is dual fifo and how does it work?
|  > > >
|  > > >I've searched CCO and all I can find is how to turn it on.  I have
|  >yet
|  > > >to find any sort of explanation.
|  > > >
|  > > >thanks!
|  > > >
|  > > >John
|  > > _
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|  
|  
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RE: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19879]

2001-09-13 Thread Thad Gaston

Karl,

It is clear that you are dealing with some serious issues. It is also
clear that you are ignorant as to the belief, practice and traditions of
Islam and Muslims. What you cleary continue to point back to is the acts
of MEN. 

Ofcourse you as an opportunist would take this time to get on your "soap
box". But also as an African American man need I remind you of the
attrocities committed on American soil against slaves in the name of
"Democracy". So while you ride your high-horse. Let me also remind you
that people such as yourself actually perpetuate what is truly a CULT
mentality.

I take it your solution now is to nuke any muslim in the world. Wipe out
the 1 billion plus people that live in all areas and corners of the
world. That live, work, and contribute to establish peace. It is sad to
see this type of banter and clear dissolution make it to this list and
even worse the hatred that is concealed in the hearts of people like
you.

Thaddeus Gaston

PS

All,

I apologize to all on the list. I will no longer acknowledge this
thread. May justice be served to those who are responsible for this act
and may the truth of these matter come to light. May Allah have mercy on
all of the victims and families of this act.

-Original Message-
From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:14 PM
To: Thad Gaston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy.
It's our arrogance' [7:19819]


Dear Apologist for Genocide

I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and I would simply point out that
in
most of the so called Muslim countries I have been to and seen,
intolerance
is a watchword for daily life.

The usual one party states or army states with a poor and ill educated
population mostly led by men who profess their religion and humility
before
some god and profit greatly from the poor and the disenfranchised.

Women are subjugated and mere breeders, young men used as cannon fodder
in
some so called holy war which turns out to have more in common with a
wallet
than a valuation of human life.

How dare you complain about insults to a so called religion who's
members
excuse their crimes through some so called god and lies.  What am I to
expect nowa Fatwah of death (a.k.a. Salman Rushdh) because I have a
contary opinion.  You intolerance to the "insults" of your so called
religion are quite simply unbelievable.

I have fought terrorists and been injured as a result, they (the
terrorists)
always excuse themselves through religion when really criminal behaviour
and
greed is what they wish to hide.  It does not matter whether it is the
great
sky god of the Roman Catholic faith and the scum of the IRA or the
immature
rantings of the most recent hate filled Mullah.  There is the EVIL.

I strongly suggest that those who are apologists for murder and cannot
tolerate democracy would be very wise at this juncture to hold their
tongues.  I can understand why you would not wish this thread to
continue as
it might draw attention away from the criminal activities of this so
called
murderous cult.  I know much of Islam and know down through history how
the
concept of Holy War is abused by men time and time again!  It is a
religion
that has not come out of the middle ages and should have been left
there.

I have the deepest shock at what I have seen and understand clearly how
powerless America was at that instant.  There was no mercy and the name
of
Allah was invoked...that was evil and until the Muslim world
categorically removes itself from that evil and hands up its
criminals/terrorists then at least I and I think many others will judge
it
to be evil.  I'm sorry if some faint hearts found this upsettingthe
poor
dears..at least they are alive!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "Thad Gaston" 
To: "hal9001" ; 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's
our
arrogance' [7:19819]


All and Paul

As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the
religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested
along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both
distracting and upsetting.

Best Regards

-Original Message-
From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19819]


Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that
encourages
this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
cult!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "John Mairs"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19726]


> aaammen!
>
> Allah be paved!
>
>
> --- ed smith  wrote:
> > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
> > steam off! Who the hell
> > cares about CISCO right now?
> >
>

Re: PPP password [7:19837]

2001-09-13 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I think you will find once it is encrypted it will stay encrypted.  To avoid
it becoming encrypted you can use
 
router#no service password=encryption

however be aware enable and login passwords might also be visable.

There is a program that allows one to decrypt passwords excluding the
"secret" password IE encrypted passwords that are identified with a "7".

Just a thought

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
 

On Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 04:10:05 PM, Andy Barkl wrote:

> I need to display the PPP password on my ISDN link.
> 
> In the enable mode can I turn off some type of encryption to then display 
> the encrypted password?
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Re: Multiple ISDN devices [7:19740]

2001-09-13 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

As each is set up it gets a TEI (Terminal End Identifier) these are used to
identify each device. You can have up to 8 devices connected as I understand
it.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:07:49 AM, Lists Wizard wrote:

> Hello group,
> 
> I am studying for the CIT exam and I have a question
> regarding multiple isdn devices sharing a single bri
> connection. Assuming a router and ISDN phone sharing a
> the same s/t bus, how should I Identify each device so
> that when a phone comes in the router does not
> respond. Assume that I have only one phone number
> assigned by the ISDN service provider. A configuration
> sample will be highly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Lw
> 
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RE: [7:18833]

2001-09-13 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (CEI-Atlanta)

Mike,
It appears that your message got deleted, but please add me to
your list as well, whenever you get this.
Thanks!
Geoff Mossburg
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Please put my name in your list.
I'm interested too.

thanks
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> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:
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> > [7:18761]
> >
> >
> > count me in too..
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Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19876]

2001-09-13 Thread hal9001

Dear Apologist for Genocide

I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and I would simply point out that in
most of the so called Muslim countries I have been to and seen, intolerance
is a watchword for daily life.

The usual one party states or army states with a poor and ill educated
population mostly led by men who profess their religion and humility before
some god and profit greatly from the poor and the disenfranchised.

Women are subjugated and mere breeders, young men used as cannon fodder in
some so called holy war which turns out to have more in common with a wallet
than a valuation of human life.

How dare you complain about insults to a so called religion who's members
excuse their crimes through some so called god and lies.  What am I to
expect nowa Fatwah of death (a.k.a. Salman Rushdh) because I have a
contary opinion.  You intolerance to the "insults" of your so called
religion are quite simply unbelievable.

I have fought terrorists and been injured as a result, they (the terrorists)
always excuse themselves through religion when really criminal behaviour and
greed is what they wish to hide.  It does not matter whether it is the great
sky god of the Roman Catholic faith and the scum of the IRA or the immature
rantings of the most recent hate filled Mullah.  There is the EVIL.

I strongly suggest that those who are apologists for murder and cannot
tolerate democracy would be very wise at this juncture to hold their
tongues.  I can understand why you would not wish this thread to continue as
it might draw attention away from the criminal activities of this so called
murderous cult.  I know much of Islam and know down through history how the
concept of Holy War is abused by men time and time again!  It is a religion
that has not come out of the middle ages and should have been left there.

I have the deepest shock at what I have seen and understand clearly how
powerless America was at that instant.  There was no mercy and the name of
Allah was invoked...that was evil and until the Muslim world
categorically removes itself from that evil and hands up its
criminals/terrorists then at least I and I think many others will judge it
to be evil.  I'm sorry if some faint hearts found this upsettingthe poor
dears..at least they are alive!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "Thad Gaston" 
To: "hal9001" ; 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our
arrogance' [7:19819]


All and Paul

As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the
religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested
along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both
distracting and upsetting.

Best Regards

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[7:19819]


Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that
encourages
this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
cult!

Karl
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To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19726]


> aaammen!
>
> Allah be paved!
>
>
> --- ed smith  wrote:
> > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
> > steam off! Who the hell
> > cares about CISCO right now?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > >From: "Thad Gaston" >To: "ed smith" , >Subject: RE:
> > 'It's not the US
> > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep
> > 2001 17:59:42 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received:
> > from [12.109.97.147] by
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> > >X-MS-Has-Attach: >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> > >Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US
> > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > >Thread-Index:
> > AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg > >All, > >I
> > would discourage any
> > further post regarding this topic as it becoming
> > >more and more useless
> > and distracting. None of our sentiments are going
> > >to bring back the
> > lives of those that have passed on nor bring about
> > the >justice the we
> > all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track
> > and >get back to what
> > this list is intended for. > >Regards, > >Thad
> > Gaston > >-Original
> > Message- >From: ed smith
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> > Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM >To:
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> > arrogance' >[7:19679]
> > > > >That is the biggest load of crap I've ever
> > heard

FW: PLEASE READ!!!! and pass on [7:19875]

2001-09-13 Thread Eric Rivard

> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:30 PM
> To: mass
> Subject: FW: PLEASE READ and pass on
>
>
> Tomorrow is U.S. Color day.  Red, White & Blue should be worn in honor
of
> our
> fellow Americans that died.  Jeans
> worn will be blue.  The goal is to get the whole nation to
patricipate.
> Send
> this to 10 other people.
>
> In memory of all those who perished; the passengers and the
> pilots on the United Air and AA flights, the workers in the World
Trade
> Center and the Pentagon, and all the innocent bystanders. Our prayers
go
> out
> to the friends and families of the deceased. Send this to at least 10
> people
> to show your support. DONT BREAK IT!!  God's speed to all those
who
> have
> lost their lives...GOD BLESS AMERICA and the freedom it represents
> tomorrow is US pride day, everyone wear US colors (jeans are blue,
everyone
> owns a white t-shirt, etc).  try to be wearing as much red white and
blue
> as
> you can.  send this message to as many other people you know.  Lets
get
the
> whole country into it.  At least send it to 10 other people
>
> Categories:
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Re: Back to Back ISDN Solution [7:19860]

2001-09-13 Thread EA Louie

Congratulations and thanks for posting the configuration.  To your statement
at the bottom, those of us who are CCIE Lab candidates care about ppp
multilink, but we do share in your excitement.

- Original Message -
From: "Rick Harville" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: Back to Back ISDN Solution [7:19860]


> Thanks for all who responded.  Combining everyones posts I was able to put
> together a config that now works.
>
> For the record:
>
> You can indeed use a single ISDN line to connect two routers together to
> practice your ISDN configs. This config was tested using two C2503
routers,
> a single motorola NT1 w/2 ST ports and a single U port. The line was a
> standard ISDN line from SWBell.
>
> r3
> interface BRI0
>  ip address 133.2.9.2 255.255.255.252
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no keepalive
>  dialer string 7133169437
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-ni
>  isdn spid1 71331694360101
>
> r5
>
> interface BRI0
>  ip address 133.2.9.1 255.255.255.252
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no keepalive
>  dialer string 7133169436
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-ni
>  isdn spid1 71331694370101
>
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
> This is sooo much cheaper than a simulator and sofar I have been able to
do
> everthing i have been wanting to practice. I dont suppose you could do
> multilink but who cares! Thank you everybody this is a great group.
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RE: filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-13 Thread Jim Brown

Let me rethink that one

change the interface type with the ospf interface command to non-broadcast
and use a neighbor statement to select the router on the multi-access
segment you would like to form and adjacency with.


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filtering ospf [7:19856]


How about a passive interface with a neighbor statement. Changes the
behavior from multicast to unicast, thereby eliminating traffic to the rouge
router.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filtering ospf [7:19856]


Anyone remember how to ACL ospf?  

basically I have area 0 on one interface of a router that touches another
company's area 0 (we're splitting)  And I want to stop sending them updates
and stop receiving updates from them.

The real kicker is that I still have another router on that side in area 0
that WAS vendor supported and I can not make any changes to it. (therefor
area 0 must remain for it to communicate properly)

I seem to recall reading about filters designed just for this scenario but I
can not find them in conf t Anyone else know?

-Patrick




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TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [7:19872]

2001-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES

This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.

America: The Good Neighbor.

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant
remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is
time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out
of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying
even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who
propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries
in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by
tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars! into
discouraged countries. Now newspapers in
those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
erosion of the United States dollar build its
own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the
Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star,
or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman
on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you
get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not
once, but several times - and safely home
again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
window for everybody to look at.
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our
streets, and most of them, unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and
pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through
age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad
and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an  old caboose.
Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to
the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during
the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired
of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at
the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is
not one of those."

Stand proud, America!




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RE: filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-13 Thread David Goddard

Hi Patrick,

  I may need you to elaborate on your question a bit, because I am a little
unclear on your desired OSPF outcome here, but

  Besides the obvious passive interface -- which does allow the interface
address to be advertised via OSPF, but will not allow the router to form an
adjacency with other routers -- you could put an extended access list on the
interface that says something like...

access-list 101 deny ip host  host 224.0.0.5

For example:
access-list 101 deny ip host 10.10.10.1 host 224.0.0.5
access-list 101 permit ip any any
!
interface ethernet0
ip access-group 101 in

this would prevent your router from forming an adjacency with the router
that has the ip of 10.10.10.1, but any other would be permited.

hth,
Dave
 


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Re: Redistributing IGP's to BGP NOT working!! [7:19706]

2001-09-13 Thread MADMAN

No, if no synch is needed it would be on the two IBGP peers so that
they will inject EBGP routes into their BGP routing table without having
an equvilent IGP route entry.  If your seeing all the routes in your
routing tables it doesn't sound like a synch issue but synchronization
is unrealistic today since it expects the redistribution of BGP routes
into your IGP. 

  Dave

Cisco Nuts wrote:
> 
> Oh!! So RTC and RTB needs to have #no synchI'll try that .Yes,
> RTA is running EBGP with RTC and IBGP with RTB.RTA just does not know
> how to redistribute RTB's netw to RTC and vice-versa.Even though a
> #sh ip route and a #sh ip bgp shows all 3 networks on all 3
> routers...Just cannot ping RTB from RTC and vice-versa..
> 
> >From: "suaveguru" >Reply-To: "suaveguru" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Redistributing IGP's to BGP NOT working!! [7:19706] >Date:
> Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:04:06 -0400 > >I think running IBGP follow by EBGP
> will solve the >problems of thinking how to restribute IGP routes > >
> >regards, > >suaveguru >--- Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > rta should have two
> interface one running ibgp and > > one ebgp > > rtb and rtc should be bgp
> peers with sync off > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:35 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Redistributing IGP's to BGP
> NOT > > working!! [7:19706] > > > > > > igp and bgp networks identical
> with same mask? > > > > What about sync > > > > Bri > > > > -
> Original Message - > > From: "Cisco Nuts" > > To: > > Sent:
> Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:11 PM > > Subject: Redistributing IGP's
> to BGP NOT working!! > > [7:19706] > > > > > > > Hello, > > > I have
> configured 3 routers with BGP.RTA and > > RTB are in AS100...RTC on >
> > > AS300 > > > RTA has netw. 150.10.0.0 configed on Loopback0 > > > RTB
> netw. 160.10.0.0 and RTC netw. 170.10.0.0 > > likewise > > > RTC
> connected to RTA and RTA connected to RTB > > > Have the networks
> advertised on each router > > > Have the redistribute connected configed
> on RTA > > > Also have RIP running b/w RTA and RTB with > > networks
> 150.10.0.0 and > > > 160.10.0.0 configed. Have the redistribute rip > >
> command on RTA > > > Problem is: > > > Cannot ping 160.10.0.1 from RTC
> and > > > Cannot ping 160.10.0.1 from RTA > > > Cannot ping 170.10.0.1
> from RTB > > > > > > I took out rip and configured static routes on RTA >
> > and RTB and the > > > redistribute static command on RTA...Still same >
> > problem. > > > > > > Question is: What is the trick to redistribute > >
> IGP or static routes to > > BGP > > > so that RTC can get those
> networks?? Please > > advise. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > Kind regards.
> > > > > > > > >
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Re: Alteon Switch manual [7:19861]

2001-09-13 Thread Brian Whalen

I have no familiarity with this product, but googling is good..

http://www.allasso.es/base/docs/1979494715.pdf

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Ali Mesdaq wrote:

> Hello,
> Does anyone have the manual in pdf format of the Alteon switch model AD2.
If
> anyone knows of a site please let me know.
> Thanks




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Re: filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-13 Thread MADMAN

224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6, in fact I just did this to stop OSPF from
becoming an interesting packet and firing up an ISDN backup link!!

  Dave

Patrick Ramsey wrote:
> 
> Anyone remember how to ACL ospf?
> 
> basically I have area 0 on one interface of a router that touches another
> company's area 0 (we're splitting)  And I want to stop sending them updates
> and stop receiving updates from them.
> 
> The real kicker is that I still have another router on that side in area 0
> that WAS vendor supported and I can not make any changes to it. (therefor
> area 0 must remain for it to communicate properly)
> 
> I seem to recall reading about filters designed just for this scenario but
I
> can not find them in conf t Anyone else know?
> 
> -Patrick
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SNMP index numbering [7:19866]

2001-09-13 Thread Sean Knox

One question: how are devices refigured when virtual devices are added?
I.e. I have interfaces 1, 2, 3 in the ifIndex, and I create subinterface
1.1. What will that device be listed as in ifIndex? 4?

Sean




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RE: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]

2001-09-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

sounds like a split tunnel issue. I believe split tunneling is turned off by
default.

if this is the case, here is the explanation:

the model for VPN is a user station connecting to a corporate network
through the internet. There is an issue with having an open internet net
connection on  a remote user machine while connected via a VPN to the Corp
net. the user machine can be compromised by an internet hacker, who then has
access to corporate through the user connection.

split tunnel is the term for this situation - having an open connection to
the local internet at the same time one has a secure connection via a VPN
tunnel. Because this is considered a real security risk, most VPN client
software turns this feature off by default.

you should be able to find the required settings in the config guide, so you
can permit split tunneling.

although I gotta say, if I understand you correctly, you would be opening up
your server to compromise  from the internet. why not do the VPN tunnel
through an edge device, like a router? Site to site VPN?

HTH

Chuck

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George Kallingal
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]


I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client software and how it binds its
driver to a network card.

We have an NT server that we are connecting to a remote network using the
Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I believe).  Upon connection
through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other servers on the local
network.  Is there a way to maintain the local area connection while
connected over VPN?  I tried to multi-home the server and unbind the DNE
driver for one network card, but that just disabled the network card.

Has anyone experienced this before?  Are there any workarounds? Fixes?  Or
does this require a call to Cisco TAC?

Thanks.

George




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Re: Dual FIFO? [7:19691]

2001-09-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Voice is in a different queue than data, so there are two queues (hence the 
dual)??

At 03:09 PM 9/13/01, John Neiberger wrote:
>I understand that concept but I haven't been able to connect that to the
>dual FIFO queue.  How does fragmentation relate to the dual queue?  If I
>follow Cisco's suggestion and use a fragmentation size of 1600 then no
>fragmentation is actually occurring, yet the dual FIFO queue is
>implemented.
>
>I have this nagging feeling that I'm just missing something that I
>should have figured out by now.

Or maybe the documentation writer was just missing something?? ;-)

Priscilla


>Thanks,
>John
>
> >>> "MADMAN"  9/13/01 9:01:55 AM >>>
>The bottom line is you fragment data packets, never voice, so that a
>voice packets, which are small, never get queued behind a 1500 byte
>packet.  The rule of thumb I think is you don't want more than 150ms
>delay in any voice packets or you may as well dump it.
>
>   dave
>
>Stephen Skinner wrote:
> >
> > the only thing i could find was this
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.pdf
> >
> > which says
> >
> > "Turn on fragmentation for low speed links (less than 1.5Mbps).
> > Set the fragment size so voice packets are not fragmented and do not
> > experience a serialization delay greater than 20 ms.
> >
> > Lowest Link Speed in Path Recommended Fragmentation Size
> >
> > 56Kbps 70 bytes
> > 64Kbps 80 bytes
> > 128Kbps 160 bytes
> > 256Kbps 320 bytes
> > 512Kbps 640 bytes
> > 768Kbps 1000 bytes
> > 1536Kbps 1600 bytes
> >
> > Note: For 1536 Kbps, no fragmentation is technically needed, but
> > fragmentation is needed to enable the dual first-in, first-out
> > (FIFO) queueing system to ensure voice quality. A fragment size of
>1600
> > bytes enables the dual FIFO, but since 1600 bytes is
> > higher than the typical serial interface maximum transmission unit
>(MTU),
> > large data packets are not fragmented.
> >
> > from what it says it`s just multple "stack" queue
> >
> > sorry i can`t be of more help..
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > steve
> > >From: "John Neiberger"
> > >Reply-To: "John Neiberger"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Dual FIFO? [7:19691]
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:34:53 -0400
> > >
> > >When configuring VoIP on T-1 links, I see that CCO suggests turning
>on
> > >frame relay fragmentation with a fragment size of 1600 simply to
>turn on
> > >the dual fifo queue.  What is that?  I'm familiar with the single
>fifo
> > >but what is dual fifo and how does it work?
> > >
> > >I've searched CCO and all I can find is how to turn it on.  I have
>yet
> > >to find any sort of explanation.
> > >
> > >thanks!
> > >
> > >John
> > _
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RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

To answer your questions:

Yes, that's a fair representation.

I figured out that it was the hub because a hub more or less in this picture
works as a crossed cat5 cable, especially if you only have two devices
connected to it, which I tried before I replaced it with a switch.

Since the switch worked and a crossed cat5 worked, but the hub didn't work -
I was very sure that it was the problem.

I did all the show ... cmd's and tried to clear the arp cache without any
change.

Thanks,

Ole

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From: EA Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


I'm assuming that this is a fair representation of the network?

PC --10/100BT-- HUB --10/100BT--- 1720 --- F/R --- 2620 --- CORP-LAN
 Ethernet

why and how did you isolate the problem being the hub?  It doesn't sound
like you had a Sniffer out there.  Did you run any debugs on the 1720 to see
what it was seing?  Any 'show int fast0/0' on the 1720?  A 'show arp' on the
1720?  Does that model 3Com hub do 'micro-segmentation'?

And Ethernet hubs do not have feelings.  However, if they did, they would be
feelin' groovy.

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:30 AM
Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
>
> Task:
>
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
>
> Before:
>
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was connected
to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700 series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
>
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
>
> Goal:
>
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.
>
> Steps:
>
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
>
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the active
> PVC and all was well.
>
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
>
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
>
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
>
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
>
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
>
> ?
>
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
>
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
>
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
hub
> hates the 1720?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
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RE: filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

use an access list that filters on ip protocol number 89

access-list 101 deny ospf source destination
access-list 101 permit etc

but based on what you say about a router of yours on "their" side? maybe
"they" should take responsibility for the filtering on the appropriate
interfaces?

Chuck

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Patrick Ramsey
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:06 PM
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Subject: filtering ospf [7:19856]


Anyone remember how to ACL ospf?

basically I have area 0 on one interface of a router that touches another
company's area 0 (we're splitting)  And I want to stop sending them updates
and stop receiving updates from them.

The real kicker is that I still have another router on that side in area 0
that WAS vendor supported and I can not make any changes to it. (therefor
area 0 must remain for it to communicate properly)

I seem to recall reading about filters designed just for this scenario but I
can not find them in conf t Anyone else know?

-Patrick




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Alteon Switch manual [7:19861]

2001-09-13 Thread Ali Mesdaq

Hello,
Does anyone have the manual in pdf format of the Alteon switch model AD2. If
anyone knows of a site please let me know.
Thanks




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Back to Back ISDN Solution [7:19860]

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Harville

Thanks for all who responded.  Combining everyones posts I was able to put
together a config that now works.

For the record:

You can indeed use a single ISDN line to connect two routers together to
practice your ISDN configs. This config was tested using two C2503 routers,
a single motorola NT1 w/2 ST ports and a single U port. The line was a
standard ISDN line from SWBell.

r3
interface BRI0
 ip address 133.2.9.2 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no keepalive
 dialer string 7133169437
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 71331694360101

r5

interface BRI0
 ip address 133.2.9.1 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no keepalive
 dialer string 7133169436
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 71331694370101

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

This is sooo much cheaper than a simulator and sofar I have been able to do
everthing i have been wanting to practice. I dont suppose you could do
multilink but who cares! Thank you everybody this is a great group.




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RE: filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-13 Thread Jim Brown

How about a passive interface with a neighbor statement. Changes the
behavior from multicast to unicast, thereby eliminating traffic to the rouge
router.


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filtering ospf [7:19856]


Anyone remember how to ACL ospf?  

basically I have area 0 on one interface of a router that touches another
company's area 0 (we're splitting)  And I want to stop sending them updates
and stop receiving updates from them.

The real kicker is that I still have another router on that side in area 0
that WAS vendor supported and I can not make any changes to it. (therefor
area 0 must remain for it to communicate properly)

I seem to recall reading about filters designed just for this scenario but I
can not find them in conf t Anyone else know?

-Patrick




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Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]

2001-09-13 Thread George Kallingal

I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client software and how it binds its
driver to a network card.

We have an NT server that we are connecting to a remote network using the
Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I believe).  Upon connection
through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other servers on the local
network.  Is there a way to maintain the local area connection while
connected over VPN?  I tried to multi-home the server and unbind the DNE
driver for one network card, but that just disabled the network card.

Has anyone experienced this before?  Are there any workarounds? Fixes?  Or
does this require a call to Cisco TAC?

Thanks.

George




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Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread EA Louie

I'm assuming that this is a fair representation of the network?

PC --10/100BT-- HUB --10/100BT--- 1720 --- F/R --- 2620 --- CORP-LAN
 Ethernet

why and how did you isolate the problem being the hub?  It doesn't sound
like you had a Sniffer out there.  Did you run any debugs on the 1720 to see
what it was seing?  Any 'show int fast0/0' on the 1720?  A 'show arp' on the
1720?  Does that model 3Com hub do 'micro-segmentation'?

And Ethernet hubs do not have feelings.  However, if they did, they would be
feelin' groovy.

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:30 AM
Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
>
> Task:
>
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
>
> Before:
>
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was connected
to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700 series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
>
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
>
> Goal:
>
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.
>
> Steps:
>
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
>
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the active
> PVC and all was well.
>
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
>
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
>
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
>
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
>
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
>
> ?
>
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
>
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
>
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
hub
> hates the 1720?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
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filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-13 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Anyone remember how to ACL ospf?  

basically I have area 0 on one interface of a router that touches another
company's area 0 (we're splitting)  And I want to stop sending them updates
and stop receiving updates from them.

The real kicker is that I still have another router on that side in area 0
that WAS vendor supported and I can not make any changes to it. (therefor
area 0 must remain for it to communicate properly)

I seem to recall reading about filters designed just for this scenario but I
can not find them in conf t Anyone else know?

-Patrick




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RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

No default route to any of them - both were/are setup with bridging to
provide the branch office the same network.

Ole

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:44 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]



  Is the default route of the workstations still the 770's address
instead of the 1720's?

  Dave

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
> 
> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
> 
> Task:
> 
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
> 
> Before:
> 
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was connected
to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700 series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
> 
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
> 
> Goal:
> 
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.
> 
> Steps:
> 
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
> 
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the active
> PVC and all was well.
> 
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
> 
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
> 
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
> 
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
> 
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
> 
> ?
> 
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
> 
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
> 
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
hub
> hates the 1720?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ole
> 
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RE: A plan to rebuild.... [7:19611]

2001-09-13 Thread Bolton, Travis

Hey Team lets take it easy.  Canada has it's problems just like we do.
We're only human.  I'm just happy that we have neighbors like them on our
side.  I personally consider them a BIG Suburb of the USA.  

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A plan to rebuild [7:19611]


Take a freakin hike Dipshit. What? they wouldn't have found another way in?

- Original Message -
From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: A plan to rebuild [7:19611]


> I guess you're not aware of Canada's reputation as being a haven for
> murderers and terrorists.  Once these people are here, we can't deport
them
> because of goofy Canadian politics.  When these people come into Canada,
> Canada has a responsibility to ensure these people don't have undesirable
> backgrounds.  Then when they're here, it's easy for them to get forged
> documents indicating that they are Canadian citizens.  That makes the US
> immigration department's job more difficult because of the free flowing
> policy of letting Canadians pass through the US border with a minimum of
> background checking.  It's the freedom that Canada enjoys with the US
that's
> at risk unless our Government steps up to the plate and tightens things
up.
> How often have you heard after the fact that Canada Immigration didn't
> investigate into people's backgrounds properly?  Far too often I'm afraid.
>
> It wasn't the Canadian immigration department that stopped the guy heading
> into the US to blow up LAX on the millenium... it was the US immigration
> department.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Torren Craigie-Manson
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: A plan to rebuild [7:19611]
> >
> >
> > > > --- Leigh Anne Chisholm  wrote:
> > {snip}
> > > > > I would really hope that of all the things that come out of this,
if
> > it's
> > > > > found that the terrorists came through Canada, the US
> > whacks Canadian
> > > > > politicians upside the head for their lax immigration policies and
> > > > > incompetent information service (Canada's version of the FBI).
They
> > should
> > > > > have been tracking those terrorists the second they entered
Canada.
> > > > >
> > > > > **I** am not impressed...
> > > > >
> >
> > Leigh Anne,
> >
> > Perhaps you can explain to me why you feel that Canadian
> > authorities should
> > have spotted these terrorists, but you make no mention of the
> > failure of US
> > authorities to spot them. Your statement is illogical and insulting to
the
> > integrity of Canada.
> >
> > This is an emotionally charged situation for people around the
> > world. Please
> > take a minute to stop and think before you appoint yourself judge
> > and jury,
> > and begin pointing fingers at _anyone_.
> >
> > Torren




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Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread MADMAN

Is the default route of the workstations still the 770's address
instead of the 1720's?

  Dave

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
> 
> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
> 
> Task:
> 
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
> 
> Before:
> 
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was connected
to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700 series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
> 
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
> 
> Goal:
> 
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.
> 
> Steps:
> 
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
> 
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the active
> PVC and all was well.
> 
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
> 
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
> 
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
> 
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
> 
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
> 
> ?
> 
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
> 
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
> 
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the hub
> hates the 1720?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ole
> 
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Re: Off subject...but [7:19843]

2001-09-13 Thread Natasha

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> 
> Can't believe all the "Nostradamus" crap that my company is getting,
> someone yesterday posted a link to the centuries site. I deleted this post
> (stupid me) could you re-post for me???
> 
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Re: Cisco Certified Network Instructor [7:19659]

2001-09-13 Thread Tom Lisa

Actually, you can become a CCAI at the Local Academy level as long as
you received your training (all four semesters) from a Regional (or higher)
Academy, passed the CCNA exam, and taught at least one semester of
the CCNA program.

HTH,
Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

SUranjith Ariyapperuma wrote:

> CCAI is offered by a cisco regional academy (RA). You have to join an RA to
> become a CCAI.




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RE: External power adaptor for IP Phone 79XX [7:19841]

2001-09-13 Thread D Rick

I'm using a 7960 but there's no power adaptor hook up to it.  I guess the
LAN connection provides the power.


Rick


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Re: IPsec over GRE tunnel to *nix box [7:19554]

2001-09-13 Thread Juliano Moises da Luz

It's possible. I have configured several vpn links using GRE on
linux.

You'll need to load the GRE module and put a simple rc file to
initialize the tunnels

The rc. file looks like this

/sbin/insmod ip_gre
/sbin/ip tunnel add tunnel0 mode gre local 200.xxx.xxx.xx remote
200...
/sbin/ifconfig tunnel0 172.20.3.178 dstaddr 172.20.3.177
/sbin/route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev tunnel0




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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: IPsec over GRE tunnel to *nix box [7:19554]


> AcessoBOL, ss R$ 9,90! O menor prego do mercado!
> Assine ja! http://www.bol.com.br/acessobol/
>
>
>
> I am unsure from your posting if you are looking for an IPsec
termination
> for *nix or a GRE termination for *nix.  For the IPsec you can use
freeswan:
> www.freeswan.org
> I am not sure about implementation of terminating a GRE tunnel
directly into
> a *nix box.  I am sure it has been done but I am not aware of any
packages
> that do that.
>
> Ed
> ""Sam Deckert""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > First and foremost, I hope all people that have been affected by
the
> tragedy
> > are coping ok - we here in Oz are thinking and praying for you.
> >
> > Also, I was just wondering if anyone has ever been able to
terminate a GRE
> > tunnel from a Cisco router to a *nix box of some flavor?  I have
been
> > scouring
> > the net, but havent found anything that can do this as yet.  Is
this even
> > possible?
> >
> > Thanks for any help/ideas you can provide, and regards
> >
> > Sam.
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RE: Redistributing IGP's to BGP NOT working!! [7:19706]

2001-09-13 Thread Cisco Nuts

Oh!! So RTC and RTB needs to have #no synchI'll try that .Yes,
RTA is running EBGP with RTC and IBGP with RTB.RTA just does not know
how to redistribute RTB's netw to RTC and vice-versa.Even though a
#sh ip route and a #sh ip bgp shows all 3 networks on all 3
routers...Just cannot ping RTB from RTC and vice-versa..

>From: "suaveguru" >Reply-To: "suaveguru" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Redistributing IGP's to BGP NOT working!! [7:19706] >Date:
Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:04:06 -0400 > >I think running IBGP follow by EBGP
will solve the >problems of thinking how to restribute IGP routes > >
>regards, > >suaveguru >--- Farhan Ahmed wrote: > > rta should have two
interface one running ibgp and > > one ebgp > > rtb and rtc should be bgp
peers with sync off > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:35 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Redistributing IGP's to BGP
NOT > > working!! [7:19706] > > > > > > igp and bgp networks identical
with same mask? > > > > What about sync > > > > Bri > > > > -
Original Message - > > From: "Cisco Nuts" > > To: > > Sent:
Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:11 PM > > Subject: Redistributing IGP's
to BGP NOT working!! > > [7:19706] > > > > > > > Hello, > > > I have
configured 3 routers with BGP.RTA and > > RTB are in AS100...RTC on >
> > AS300 > > > RTA has netw. 150.10.0.0 configed on Loopback0 > > > RTB
netw. 160.10.0.0 and RTC netw. 170.10.0.0 > > likewise > > > RTC
connected to RTA and RTA connected to RTB > > > Have the networks
advertised on each router > > > Have the redistribute connected configed
on RTA > > > Also have RIP running b/w RTA and RTB with > > networks
150.10.0.0 and > > > 160.10.0.0 configed. Have the redistribute rip > >
command on RTA > > > Problem is: > > > Cannot ping 160.10.0.1 from RTC
and > > > Cannot ping 160.10.0.1 from RTA > > > Cannot ping 170.10.0.1
from RTB > > > > > > I took out rip and configured static routes on RTA >
> and RTB and the > > > redistribute static command on RTA...Still same >
> problem. > > > > > > Question is: What is the trick to redistribute > >
IGP or static routes to > > BGP > > > so that RTC can get those
networks?? Please > > advise. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > Kind regards.
> > > > > > > >
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Re: Redistributing IGP's to BGP NOT working!! [7:19706]

2001-09-13 Thread Cisco Nuts

a #sh ip route and a #sh ip bgp shows all 3 routes...Just cannot ping
from RTC to RTB and vice-versa..

>From: "Peter Van Oene" >To: "Cisco Nuts" , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Redistributing IGP's to BGP NOT working!! [7:19706] >Date:
Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:50:39 -0400 > >What are your BGP neighbor
relationships showing? What do you see when you issue a show ip bgp? or a
show ip bgp sum? > > >*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > >On
9/12/2001 at 10:11 PM Cisco Nuts wrote: > > >Hello, > >I have configured
3 routers with BGP.RTA and RTB are in AS100...RTC on > >AS300 > >RTA
has netw. 150.10.0.0 configed on Loopback0 > >RTB netw. 160.10.0.0 and
RTC netw. 170.10.0.0 likewise > >RTC connected to RTA and RTA connected
to RTB > >Have the networks advertised on each router > >Have the
redistribute connected configed on RTA > >Also have RIP running b/w RTA
and RTB with networks 150.10.0.0 and > >160.10.0.0 configed. Have the
redistribute rip command on RTA > >Problem is: > >Cannot ping 160.10.0.1
from RTC and > >Cannot ping 160.10.0.1 from RTA > >Cannot ping 170.10.0.1
from RTB > > > >I took out rip and configured static routes on RTA and
RTB and the > >redistribute static command on RTA...Still same problem. >
> > >Question is: What is the trick to redistribute IGP or static routes
to > >BGP > >so that RTC can get those networks?? Please advise. > > >
>Thank you. > >Kind regards. > > >
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RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19845]

2001-09-13 Thread Buri, Heather L.

I really had not intended to post anymore on non-Cisco topics on the list
today since I feel I did enough of that yesterday, but I feel this cannot go
without a response.  

Please people, try to contain and direct your anger to the individuals
involved in this act.  While they may have been of Muslim faith (albeit an
extreme sect) PLEASE remember that not all Muslims share the views of a few
radicals.  I would hate to see hate-crimes against a religious group because
of this.  

Lets take it back to Cisco now.

Heather

> -Original Message-
> From: hal9001 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:49 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our
> arrogance' [7:19819]
> 
> Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that
> encourages
> this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
> cult!
> 
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Mairs" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> [7:19726]
> 
> 
> > aaammen!
> >
> > Allah be paved!
> >
> >
> > --- ed smith  wrote:
> > > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
> > > steam off! Who the hell
> > > cares about CISCO right now?
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > >From: "Thad Gaston" >To: "ed smith" , >Subject: RE:
> > > 'It's not the US
> > > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep
> > > 2001 17:59:42 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received:
> > > from [12.109.97.147] by
> > > hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
> > > MHotMailBD69252000344136E8170C6D619313EB0; Wed, 12
> > > Sep 2001 14:56:49
> > > -0700 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 12 Sep 2001
> > > 14:57:36 -0700
> > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange
> > > V6.0.4417.0 >content-class:
> > > urn:content-classes:message >Message-ID:
> > >
> > > >X-MS-Has-Attach: >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> > > >Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US
> > > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > > >Thread-Index:
> > > AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg > >All, > >I
> > > would discourage any
> > > further post regarding this topic as it becoming
> > > >more and more useless
> > > and distracting. None of our sentiments are going
> > > >to bring back the
> > > lives of those that have passed on nor bring about
> > > the >justice the we
> > > all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track
> > > and >get back to what
> > > this list is intended for. > >Regards, > >Thad
> > > Gaston > >-Original
> > > Message- >From: ed smith
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent:
> > > Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM >To:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:
> > > Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our
> > > arrogance' >[7:19679]
> > > > > >That is the biggest load of crap I've ever
> > > heard! >The people we
> > > see dancing in the streets of Palestine are
> > > brainwashed! > >The common
> > > person in the middle east would give anything to
> > > come and >live in >the
> > > U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home.
> > > Believe me, I >did 2
> > > >years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in
> > > that part of the
> > > >World. > >I don't see all those God forsaken
> > > countries having a problem
> > > with >people >wanting to immigrate there! > >If they
> > > believe they are
> > > God's chosen people, why didn't he make them >from
> > > >Hawaii, or
> > > Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World?
> > > > >They don't have
> > > the open airways or free flow of information to make
> > > >logical >decisions.
> > > They only believe what their ignorant and jealous
> > > leaders >tell >them. >
> > > >They wanted a "Holy War" I think they have it,,
> > > > Holy @!#$ Ahkmed,
> > > here comes a Tomahawk missile! > Holy @!#$ Al-@!#$,
> > > here comes a flights
> > > of F-15's!!! > Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm
> > > going to see Allah! >
> > > >Wait and see brings new meaning to "bombs
> > > bursting in air". > >YOU
> > > SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email anyway. >
> > > > > >
> > >
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RE: IPsec over GRE tunnel to *nix box [7:19554]

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Hall

You might want to check out www.phrack.org/show.php?p=56&a=10.  This article
describes a tool called Tunnelx which can be used to decapsulate GRE on a
*nix box.  Although some might view this as a hacker tool, it might solve
you problem.

Michael Hall, CCIE #8112

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ed Horley
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IPsec over GRE tunnel to *nix box [7:19554]


I am unsure from your posting if you are looking for an IPsec termination
for *nix or a GRE termination for *nix.  For the IPsec you can use freeswan:
www.freeswan.org
I am not sure about implementation of terminating a GRE tunnel directly into
a *nix box.  I am sure it has been done but I am not aware of any packages
that do that.

Ed
""Sam Deckert""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey everyone,
>
> First and foremost, I hope all people that have been affected by the
tragedy
> are coping ok - we here in Oz are thinking and praying for you.
>
> Also, I was just wondering if anyone has ever been able to terminate a GRE
> tunnel from a Cisco router to a *nix box of some flavor?  I have been
> scouring
> the net, but havent found anything that can do this as yet.  Is this even
> possible?
>
> Thanks for any help/ideas you can provide, and regards
>
> Sam.




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Off subject...but [7:19843]

2001-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can't believe all the "Nostradamus" crap that my company is getting,
someone yesterday posted a link to the centuries site. I deleted this post
(stupid me) could you re-post for me???


Thanks Ron




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Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Allen May

Yeah yeah...we all know it's those sentimental 16 color EGA & standard ASCII
nudie pics on there that you collected in the 80's  ;)

Just kidding of course ;)

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: "'Allen May'" ; "Ole Drews Jensen"
; 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


> Hey!!! - there's absolutely nothing wrong with my stack of 5.25 floppies -
> they still have some of my Poly Pascal version 1.0 source code on them :-)
>
> Ole
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:46 PM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
>
>
> The hub wants to die.  It is time.  Let it go.  There is nothing you can
do
> to save it.  Bid farewell and have it cremated in a burning pile of 5 1/4"
> floppies.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:22 PM
> Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
>
>
> > Do you think it would help flushing the hub with saltwater ???
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ole
> >
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> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:00 PM
> > To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
> >
> >
> > Hey Ole, saw this exact same thing with a 3Com hub at a client. I took
> > out there existing router, replaced it with a 1720, and bam, nothing.
> > Set the Fast E0 to Half 10 some ports started working, swapped out the
> > hub with a netgear hub, everything worked. Changed the FastE0 to 100 /
> > half and all was fine. Put the 3Com in a few weeks later for grins and
> > giggles, blam, work great. WEIRD!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:30 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
> >
> >
> > This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> > someone has one.
> >
> > Task:
> >
> > To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> > connection.
> >
> > Before:
> >
> > Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was
> > connected to
> > a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700
> > series
> > router which was connected to our LAN.
> >
> > Everything was working fine, but slow.
> >
> > Goal:
> >
> > Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> > router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
> > LAN.
> >
> > Steps:
> >
> > I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> > workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
> >
> > I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the
> > active
> > PVC and all was well.
> >
> > I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
> > at
> > the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
> >
> > The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> > unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> > instead.
> >
> > I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert
> > or
> > telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
> > router,
> > and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
> >
> > This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> > ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I
> > also
> > knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
> >
> > I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of
> > the
> > hub, and now everything worked fine.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> > connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
> > with
> > a crossed cable and a switch?
> >
> > I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
> > network,
> > even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
> >
> > Anyone has

PPP password [7:19837]

2001-09-13 Thread Andy Barkl

I need to display the PPP password on my ISDN link.

In the enable mode can I turn off some type of encryption to then display 
the encrypted password?




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RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Hey!!! - there's absolutely nothing wrong with my stack of 5.25 floppies -
they still have some of my Poly Pascal version 1.0 source code on them :-)

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:46 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


The hub wants to die.  It is time.  Let it go.  There is nothing you can do
to save it.  Bid farewell and have it cremated in a burning pile of 5 1/4"
floppies.

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


> Do you think it would help flushing the hub with saltwater ???
>
> :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~
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>  Systems Network Manager
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:00 PM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
>
>
> Hey Ole, saw this exact same thing with a 3Com hub at a client. I took
> out there existing router, replaced it with a 1720, and bam, nothing.
> Set the Fast E0 to Half 10 some ports started working, swapped out the
> hub with a netgear hub, everything worked. Changed the FastE0 to 100 /
> half and all was fine. Put the 3Com in a few weeks later for grins and
> giggles, blam, work great. WEIRD!
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
>
>
> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
>
> Task:
>
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
>
> Before:
>
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was
> connected to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700
> series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
>
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
>
> Goal:
>
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
> LAN.
>
> Steps:
>
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
>
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the
> active
> PVC and all was well.
>
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
> at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
>
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
>
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert
> or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
> router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
>
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I
> also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
>
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of
> the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
>
> ?
>
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
> with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
>
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
> network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
>
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
> hub
> hates the 1720?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~
>  http://www.RouterChief.com
> ~~~
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External power adaptor for IP Phone 79XX [7:19841]

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Yam

Hi group,

We have anger and sorrow for Tue tragedy but there are thousands of other
forums to express in the full extent. Lets keep this forum stick to its
original purpose.

Have anybody used external power adaptor for IP phone/ Part no is
CP-PWR-CUBE. I've 2 questions:
- Does it include power cord ? or I have to order it separatly ?
- Can the normal PC power cord fit the plug ?

Keith




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RE: A plan to rebuild.... [7:19611]

2001-09-13 Thread John Mairs

oh, well I did say I was an idiot...I am more of a
smartass and my remarks are more smarmy than anything
else...

my understanding was (and remember...idiot here) that
they drove here and that one or more of them was on an
FBI watch listI think of Canada as the United
States in terms of our characteristics (like layed
back attitudes between each of us entering each others
borders and anyone coming in to them) and our freedoms
tend to come at the cost of leniancy and advantages
are going to be taken. 

Those freedoms (decades of uncomplicated unfettered
travel) are worth the odd incident. For every one a**
hole that has made it through a million good souls
have come with them and we are the better for it in
terms of intellectual and social diversity (remember,
Einstein was a German citizen and I am glad we didn't
consider him a "filthy German Nazi" when we let him
in. 

Granted this odd incident is huge and I don't mean to
minimize the loss (I have personal losses here of my
own), but I like those freedoms and If they change,
terrorism has won. If the landscape of New York city's
skyline changesthey have won. Trust me when I say
that skyline will return and we are going to win and
win big.

In a way I am glad that they went as far as they did
because now anyone that was on the fence about whether
or not we should risk American lives (the historical
cost of our freedoms) are way off that fence now and
we can really do some damage to anyone and everyone
that is even remotely related to terrorism. I want the
damage we inflict to be unbelievably disproportionate
so that when they (terrorists) consider these actions
in the future our responses won't be as unbelievable
(proprtionally speaking) as they have been in the
past.

I want Americans to remain Americans and the Canadians
to be Canadians as we (I) have come to know them
(again my point of view, but that is really the only
point of view I tend to look at).

My intentions are not to offend you and I have always
enjoyed our exchanges historically (some time has past
since our last) but as I have stated before, I deal
with pain through humor and unfortunately my humor
tends to relate more to smartass (but it works for me)



--- Leigh Anne Chisholm  wrote:
> John:  This is a bit lengthy - please read it
> carefully.  It is detailed so
> that you'll understand my point.
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps you missed my point.  People are coming into
> Canada from
> Afghanistan.  When they arrive here, we are aware
> that they are coming from
> a high risk country.  They claim refugee status.  We
> begin processing them
> and then release them into the fabric of Canada. 
> From there, many refugees
> disappear never to be heard from again.
> 
> This is from Canada's Central Security Intelligence
> Service
>
(http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/eng/backgrnd/back8_e.html):
> 
> The vast majority of terrorist activities in Canada
> relate to the support of
> actions elsewhere that are linked to homeland
> conflicts. These activities
> include providing safe haven for terrorist
> supporters and may involve using
> the refugee stream to enter Canada, or immigrant
> smuggling. In recent years,
> terrorists from at least five different
> international terrorist
> organizations have come to Canada posing as
> refugees.
> 
> Here's an example of the problem I'm discussing in
> action:
> 
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Like thousands of other
> international air travelers
> whose passports are checked daily by U.S. officials,
> Hani al-Sayegh
> successfully passed through customs last August on
> his way to Canada from
> the Middle East.  But al-Sayegh was not just another
> traveler. He is
> suspected of driving a lookout car for those who
> bombed the Khobar Towers in
> Saudi Arabia in June 1996, killing 19 U.S.
> servicemen and injuring hundreds
> of others.
> 
> Once in Canada, they pose as Canadian citizens. 
> They show Canadian
> passports at the US border to US customs and
> immigrations officials.  The US
> representatives don't know that the country of
> origin of these people is a
> high risk - but rather believe them to be from a low
> risk country.  Not
> quite two years ago a US American congressional
> committee was due to begin
> hearings in Washington to look at how Canada handles
> security at its borders
> however this committee hearing was postponed due to
> heavy snow.  "When they
> begin Canada could be in for some heavy criticism
> from the U.S." - CNN
> 
> Canadian officials are investigating whether Ahmed
> Ressam, who was arrested
> at a U.S. border checkpoint last week with potential
> bomb-making materials
> hidden in his trunk, may be connected to an Algerian
> theft and terror ring.
> Ressam applied for refugee status in Canada but was
> rejected because of
> alleged links with the Armed Islamic Group, known as
> the GIA, which is also
> blamed for a series of massacres in Algeria. Ressam,
> an Algerian national,
> is said to have applied for Canadian citizenship
> la

Re: PPP password [7:19837]

2001-09-13 Thread Scott Hoover

no service password-encryption

""Andy Barkl""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need to display the PPP password on my ISDN link.
>
> In the enable mode can I turn off some type of encryption to then display
> the encrypted password?




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RE: PPP Authentication CHAP [7:18093]

2001-09-13 Thread Farhan Ahmed

nothing to do with that..

-Original Message-
From: Jaspreet Bhatia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PPP Authentication CHAP [7:18093]


Hello Gaz,
I was facing a very similar issue.This is what I did and
it may seem
strange but it worked for me .I turned on service password-encryption and
then CHAP
authentication strated working .

See if it works for you

Jaspreet

Gaz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can you help me plz guys been trying to get me 1601 with ISDN WIC to work
> for yonks. From debug's it looks like CHAP AUTH is failing but I don't
know
> why ?!
>
> I have enclosed sh ver, sh run and debug dialer, debug ppp auth chap.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanx in advance.
>
> Sh ver
>
> 1601#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 1600 Software (C1600-SY-L), Version 12.0(7)T,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
> (fc2)
> Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> Compiled Mon 06-Dec-99 18:03 by phanguye
> Image text-base: 0x0803DCE8, data-base: 0x02005000
>
> ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
> RELEASE
>  SOFTWARE (fc2)
> ROM: 1600 Software (C1600-BOOT-R), Version 11.1(7)AX, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
> RELEASE S
> OFTWARE (fc2)
>
> 1601 uptime is 1 hour, 30 minutes
> System returned to ROM by power-on
> System image file is "flash:/c1600-1207T.bin"
>
> cisco 1601 (68360) processor (revision C) with 13824K/4608K bytes of
memory.
> Processor board ID 04909005, with hardware revision 
> Bridging software.
> X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
> Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
> 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
> 1 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
> 1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
> System/IO memory with parity disabled
> 2048K bytes of DRAM onboard 16384K bytes of DRAM on SIMM
> System running from FLASH
> 7K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> 8192K bytes of processor board PCMCIA flash (Read ONLY)
>
> Configuration register is 0x2102
>
> Sh run
>
> Building configuration...
>
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug datetime msec
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> service udp-small-servers
> service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname 1601
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$FgI.$bygzIO/R77k37T.qfBWhH.
> !
> username xx password 0 x
> !
> !
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip domain-lookup
> !
> isdn switch-type basic-net3
> isdn voice-call-failure 0
> !
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 10.10.1.1 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip nat inside
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
> !
> interface Serial0
>  physical-layer async
>  bandwidth 64000
>  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  keepalive 10
>  dialer in-band
>  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 120
>  async mode interactive
>  fair-queue 64 16 0
>  ppp authentication chap callin
> !
> interface BRI0
>  bandwidth 64
>  ip address negotiated
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip nat outside
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no keepalive
>  dialer idle-timeout 150
>  dialer string 08451400101
>  dialer-group 2
>  isdn switch-type basic-net3
>  ppp authentication chap
> !
> ip nat inside source list 100 interface BRI0 overload
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 BRI0
> no ip http server
> !
> access-list 100 permit ip 10.10.1.0 0.0.0.255 any
> access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq snmp
> access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq ntp
> access-list 101 permit ip any any
> access-list 110 deny   udp 10.10.1.0 0.0.0.255 eq netbios-ns any log
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 110
> dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit
> !
> line con 0
>  exec-timeout 0 0
>  transport input none
> line 1
>  modem InOut
>  transport input all
>  stopbits 1
>  speed 115200
>  flowcontrol hardware
> line vty 0
>  exec-timeout 0 0
>  login local
>  length 25
> line vty 1 4
>  exec-timeout 0 0
>   login local
> !
>
> 1601#sh deb
> Dial on demand:
>   Dial on demand events debugging is on
> PPP:
>   PPP protocol negotiation debugging is on
> ISDN:
>   ISDN Q931 packets debugging is on
>   ISDN Q931 packets debug DSLs. (On/Off/No DSL:1/0/-)
>   DSL  0 --> 1
>   1 -
>
> 1601#ping 4.1.1.1
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 4.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
>
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.533: BRI0 DDR: Dialing cause ip (s=10.10.1.1, d=4.1.1.1)
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.537: BRI0 DDR: Attempting to dial 08451400101
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.549: ISDN BR0: TX ->  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x04
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.553: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.553: Channel ID i = 0x83
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.557: Called Party Number i = 0x80, '08451400101'
> *Mar  1 01:42:51.747: ISDN BR0: RX   CONNECT_ACK pd = 8  callref = 0x04
> 01:43:43: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:2, changed state to up
> 01:

Re: unsuscribe [7:19742]

2001-09-13 Thread Paul Borghese

PLEASE DO NOT SEND UNSUBSCRIBE MESSAGES TO THE LIST!  FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN TO YOU WHEN YOU JOINED OR USE THE FORM ON
WWW.GROUPSTUDY.COM.


- Original Message -
From: "Michal Kozisek" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:43 AM
Subject: unsuscribe [7:19742]


> Please unsuscribe me.
>
> Thanks
>
> MIchal
> ---
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> Zkontrolovano antivirov}m systimem AVG
> (http://www.grisoft.cz).
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Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Allen May

The hub wants to die.  It is time.  Let it go.  There is nothing you can do
to save it.  Bid farewell and have it cremated in a burning pile of 5 1/4"
floppies.

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


> Do you think it would help flushing the hub with saltwater ???
>
> :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~
>  http://www.RouterChief.com
> ~~~
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> ~~~
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:00 PM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
>
>
> Hey Ole, saw this exact same thing with a 3Com hub at a client. I took
> out there existing router, replaced it with a 1720, and bam, nothing.
> Set the Fast E0 to Half 10 some ports started working, swapped out the
> hub with a netgear hub, everything worked. Changed the FastE0 to 100 /
> half and all was fine. Put the 3Com in a few weeks later for grins and
> giggles, blam, work great. WEIRD!
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]
>
>
> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
>
> Task:
>
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
>
> Before:
>
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was
> connected to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700
> series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
>
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
>
> Goal:
>
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
> LAN.
>
> Steps:
>
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
>
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the
> active
> PVC and all was well.
>
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
> at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
>
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
>
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert
> or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
> router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
>
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I
> also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
>
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of
> the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
>
> ?
>
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
> with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
>
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
> network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
>
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
> hub
> hates the 1720?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~
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> ~~~
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Re: 2 exams [7:19695]

2001-09-13 Thread David L. Blair

Of the four CCNP tests, I had the easiest time with the CIT test. Score:
875.  Good but not great. If you have been troubleshooting computer and/or
router problems for a couple of years or more and of course have put in
study time that test should not be to much of a problem.  If you have the
resources, read over the CiscoPress CIT Certification Guide especially the
Foundation Summary for each chapter.  Also, look at the CiscoPress CIT book,
ExamCram CIT, BrainBuzz CIT StudyGuide, and Boson CIT test #1.  Ditto for
BCRAN on the reading.

For the BCRAN test.  Score: 775  Luck to have passed.  I really did not like
the format is this test.  I had 25-30 questions where you picked from an
exhibit the command the question was asking for and then had to type in the
command which was bad for me since I studied more on theory than actual
command structure.  This way of testing also slow me down.  I had to ensure
that I had the correct command and that I correctly typed into the field
provided.  The level is questions were not as difficult as Routing.  KNOW
ISDN COLD!!!  Some Frame Relay.  Know all the ways to remote access a
network and which Cisco product fits each way and how these products are
used in a SOHO, Remote, and Branch Office.  As well as in the corporate HQ.

-dlb


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Re: IPsec over GRE tunnel to *nix box [7:19554]

2001-09-13 Thread Ed Horley

I am unsure from your posting if you are looking for an IPsec termination
for *nix or a GRE termination for *nix.  For the IPsec you can use freeswan:
www.freeswan.org
I am not sure about implementation of terminating a GRE tunnel directly into
a *nix box.  I am sure it has been done but I am not aware of any packages
that do that.

Ed
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> First and foremost, I hope all people that have been affected by the
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> are coping ok - we here in Oz are thinking and praying for you.
>
> Also, I was just wondering if anyone has ever been able to terminate a GRE
> tunnel from a Cisco router to a *nix box of some flavor?  I have been
> scouring
> the net, but havent found anything that can do this as yet.  Is this even
> possible?
>
> Thanks for any help/ideas you can provide, and regards
>
> Sam.




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Re: Ports and Sockets [7:19701]

2001-09-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:51 PM 9/13/01, Tony van Ree wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Here is what I found at
>
>http://perlfect.com/articles/sockets.shtml
>
>Perl, Sockets and TCP/IP Networking.
>
>An oversimplified introduction to sockets
>
>Sockets are a mechanism that allows programs to communicate, either on the 
>same machine or across a network. The way it works is
>pretty simple: Each machine on a network is identified by some address. In 
>this tutorial we will talk about tcp/ip networking, so by
>network address we mean an IP address. (like 192.168.4.4) Apart from the 
>IP address that specifies a machine, each machine has a
>number of ports that allow handling multiple connections simultaneously.
>
>A program that wishes to receive a connection from another program, asks 
>the operating system to create a socket and bind it to some
>port. Then the program sits and listens on the socket it has created to 
>receive incoming connections. The other program also creates a
>socket for communicating witht he receiver. The caller needs to specify 
>the IP address and the port number of the receiving end.

Ah hah. Now that makes sense! ;-) And that's how AppleTalk sockets work 
too, which explains why the AppleTalk specification uses that term. Of 
course, AppleTalk also uses "socket" for the field in the packet that 
identifies the next layer up, which TCP and UDP would call a port.

Thanks to everyone who responded!

Priscilla

>If all
>goes well, and as we will see shortly, the two programs establish a 
>communication through the network using their sockets. The two
>programs may exchange information, each by writing to and reading from the 
>socket it has created.
>
>
>
>Just to add a bit to all of this
>
>Teunis
>Hobart, Tasmania
>Australia
>
>
>On Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:53:44 PM, Priscilla Oppenheimer
wrote:
>
> > Ports are used by TCP and UDP to identify the next layer up in the
packet.
> >
> > IP has a Protocol field that has a similar function.
> >
> > Ethernet II has EtherType. IEEE 802.3 has the 802.2 Service Access Point
> > (SAP). IPX and AppleTalk have sockets.
> >
> > Almost every protocol has some way of specifying what the next layer up 
> is.
> > The recipient uses it to pass the data to the right process. The sender
> > also uses it to identify itself.
> >
> > Socket has another meaning in the Unix world which I have never quite
> > understood. Perhaps someone else can explain that.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 08:25 PM 9/12/01, Dennis Laganiere wrote:
> > >Hopefully this will start a new conversation.  I've tried to describe
the
> > >difference between Ports and Sockets.  Your thoughts are welcome...
> > >
> > >Port Numbers are used by IP to pass information to the upper layers;
they
> > >provide the mechanism for cooperating applications to communicate.
Numbers
> > >below 1024 are well known ports, and above 1024 are dynamically assigned
> > >ports.  You will usually find registered ports are for vendor specific
> > >applications in the range above 1024.
> > >
> > >Here are some common IP Ports:
> > >20/21 FTP
> > >23 Telnet
> > >25 SMTP
> > >37 Time Service
> > >49 TACACS
> > >53 DNS
> > >67 BootP Server
> > >68 BootP Client
> > >69 TFTP
> > >110 POP3
> > >161 SNMP
> > >
> > >IPX sockets are part of the IPX stack, and are used much like port
numbers
> > >in IP; they direct data encapsulation in the IPX Header to the
appropriate
> > >upper layer protocols.  There are well-known ones, others that are 
> assigned
> > >to proprietary applications, and a series of numbers used randomly by
> > >clients, just like in IP. Also like IP ports, they identify the process
on
> > >the server or client that needs to get the data in the packet.
> > >
> > > Here are some common IPX sockets:
> > > 0x451   NCP
> > > 0x452   SAP
> > > 0x453   RIP
> > > 0x455   NetBios
> > > 0x456   Diagnostic
> > > 0x457   Serialization
> > > 0x85be  IPX EIGRP
> > > 0x9001  NLSP
> > > 0x9004  IPXWAN
> > > 0x9086  IPX Ping
> > >
> > >
> > >The AppleTalk protocol suite also uses sockets.  Socket numbers 1-127
are
> > >statically assigned (RTMP uses 1, ZIP uses 6, etc).
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
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TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's [7:19833]

2001-09-13 Thread Thad Gaston

All and Paul

As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the
religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested
along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both
distracting and upsetting.

Best Regards

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19819]


Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that
encourages
this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
cult!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "John Mairs" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19726]


> aaammen!
>
> Allah be paved!
>
>
> --- ed smith  wrote:
> > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
> > steam off! Who the hell
> > cares about CISCO right now?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > >From: "Thad Gaston" >To: "ed smith" , >Subject: RE:
> > 'It's not the US
> > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep
> > 2001 17:59:42 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received:
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> > >Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US
> > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > >Thread-Index:
> > AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg > >All, > >I
> > would discourage any
> > further post regarding this topic as it becoming
> > >more and more useless
> > and distracting. None of our sentiments are going
> > >to bring back the
> > lives of those that have passed on nor bring about
> > the >justice the we
> > all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track
> > and >get back to what
> > this list is intended for. > >Regards, > >Thad
> > Gaston > >-Original
> > Message- >From: ed smith
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM >To:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:
> > Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our
> > arrogance' >[7:19679]
> > > > >That is the biggest load of crap I've ever
> > heard! >The people we
> > see dancing in the streets of Palestine are
> > brainwashed! > >The common
> > person in the middle east would give anything to
> > come and >live in >the
> > U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home.
> > Believe me, I >did 2
> > >years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in
> > that part of the
> > >World. > >I don't see all those God forsaken
> > countries having a problem
> > with >people >wanting to immigrate there! > >If they
> > believe they are
> > God's chosen people, why didn't he make them >from
> > >Hawaii, or
> > Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World?
> > > >They don't have
> > the open airways or free flow of information to make
> > >logical >decisions.
> > They only believe what their ignorant and jealous
> > leaders >tell >them. >
> > >They wanted a "Holy War" I think they have it,,
> > > Holy @!#$ Ahkmed,
> > here comes a Tomahawk missile! > Holy @!#$ Al-@!#$,
> > here comes a flights
> > of F-15's!!! > Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm
> > going to see Allah! >
> > >Wait and see brings new meaning to "bombs
> > bursting in air". > >YOU
> > SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email anyway. >
> > > > >
> >
> >_
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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19832]

2001-09-13 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Hey moron if we're so bad why don't you boycott us.
That is right you can't.
Oh I get it you'll use all our products and services but our guns and
bullets  killed your kids and cops. Na it was your enlightened citizens that
did that. I think you got it backwards we listen to every piss-ant toothless
nation (yours included). That is gonna change I think Bush and our congress
made it clear either you are with us or against us. My advice send them out
or we're coming in.
Oh and I am sorry I called you a moron your "English" your a twit.
Don


- Original Message -
From: "A non-American" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19805]


> Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of death
or
> life imprisonment ?
>
> The facts as I see them are -
>
> A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they received.
My
> heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to
help!
>
> B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
> retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than
knee-jerk.
> Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to assume
> that they are less intelligent than yourselves.
>
> C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
government
> for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
spilt
> by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
> attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against
these
> people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
else
> out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find these
> people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same
> time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat
> mess Israel is in...
>
> I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
> semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not to
> mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion. The
> level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is
> disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good
> idea.
>
> Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the
news
> from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.
>
> A non-American
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Fenech, William J
> Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> [7:19699]
>
>
> Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The people
> who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be
> exterminated, pure and simple.




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RE: Static Route Info [7:19817]

2001-09-13 Thread COULOMBE, TROY

Anal?  boy I think not IMO...

Many thanks for the tipwe have quite a few (over 30) static routes due
to partnerships, etc.  Remembering what they are for, and why they are on a
certain routers (and not others) ...well we keep it in an excel
spreadsheet...A real pain during t/s.

HOWEVER
the trusty ? states:

ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.2 ?

name   Specify name of the next hop

is it just a descriptor or does it do a dns lookup?  Anyone KNOW FOR SURE?
(looking on EVERYONE'S search engine as I type)

TroyC


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Static Route Info [7:19817]


I figured out how to put a description on a static route. I know it probably
won't help many of you, but this is one of the anal things I had to do for
my boss:

ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.2 name static route to web server
Thanks




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RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Do you think it would help flushing the hub with saltwater ???

:-)

Thanks,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:00 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


Hey Ole, saw this exact same thing with a 3Com hub at a client. I took
out there existing router, replaced it with a 1720, and bam, nothing.
Set the Fast E0 to Half 10 some ports started working, swapped out the
hub with a netgear hub, everything worked. Changed the FastE0 to 100 /
half and all was fine. Put the 3Com in a few weeks later for grins and
giggles, blam, work great. WEIRD!

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
someone has one.

Task:

To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
connection.

Before:

Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was
connected to
a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700
series
router which was connected to our LAN.

Everything was working fine, but slow.

Goal:

Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.

Steps:

I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.

I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the
active
PVC and all was well.

I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
at
the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.

The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
instead.

I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert
or
telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.

This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I
also
knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.

I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of
the
hub, and now everything worked fine.

?

Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
with
a crossed cable and a switch?

I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
network,
even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.

Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
hub
hates the 1720?

Thanks,

Ole

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RE: The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Steve Smith

Hey Ole, saw this exact same thing with a 3Com hub at a client. I took
out there existing router, replaced it with a 1720, and bam, nothing.
Set the Fast E0 to Half 10 some ports started working, swapped out the
hub with a netgear hub, everything worked. Changed the FastE0 to 100 /
half and all was fine. Put the 3Com in a few weeks later for grins and
giggles, blam, work great. WEIRD!

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
someone has one.

Task:

To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
connection.

Before:

Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was
connected to
a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700
series
router which was connected to our LAN.

Everything was working fine, but slow.

Goal:

Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.

Steps:

I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.

I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the
active
PVC and all was well.

I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
at
the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.

The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
instead.

I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert
or
telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.

This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I
also
knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.

I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of
the
hub, and now everything worked fine.

?

Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
with
a crossed cable and a switch?

I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
network,
even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.

Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
hub
hates the 1720?

Thanks,

Ole

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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19829]

2001-09-13 Thread Robert Padjen

All -

I know that emotions are high right now, and energies
are in different directions, however:

The koran states that suicide is wrong and against
God. There are a significant number of desparate
people who have inappropraitely decided that killing
themselves is the way to achieve a goal, and specific
religious factions have pushed them to the breaking
point.

I am a Zionist and Jewish, and have many friends in
Israel. I have Arab and Muslim friends also.

Please, do not target all Arabs or Muslims in reaction
to this week's actions. Please, become mindful that
security in the US has always been too lax and that we
as a people need to change this.

We need to punish those responsible for this attack
and work to prevent future attacks, but attacking
innocents and stereotyping cannot show the world our
enlightenment as Americans.

As to the board's role I will let others moderate that
function. I would encourage everyone to work through
the anger and fear that they are feeling and channel
that energy towards positive ends.

Peace.


--- hal9001  wrote:
> Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called
> religion that encourages
> this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its
> nothing more than an evil
> cult!
> 
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Mairs" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy.
> It's our arrogance'
> [7:19726]
> 
> 
> > aaammen!
> >
> > Allah be paved!
> >
> >
> > --- ed smith  wrote:
> > > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
> > > steam off! Who the hell
> > > cares about CISCO right now?
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > >From: "Thad Gaston" >To: "ed smith" , >Subject:
> RE:
> > > 'It's not the US
> > > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> [7:19679]
> > > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep
> > > 2001 17:59:42 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Received:
> > > from [12.109.97.147] by
> > > hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
> > > MHotMailBD69252000344136E8170C6D619313EB0; Wed,
> 12
> > > Sep 2001 14:56:49
> > > -0700 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 12 Sep 2001
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> > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange
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> > > >Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US
> > > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> [7:19679]
> > > >Thread-Index:
> > > AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg > >All, >
> >I
> > > would discourage any
> > > further post regarding this topic as it becoming
> > > >more and more useless
> > > and distracting. None of our sentiments are
> going
> > > >to bring back the
> > > lives of those that have passed on nor bring
> about
> > > the >justice the we
> > > all would like to see. Let's keep the list on
> track
> > > and >get back to what
> > > this list is intended for. > >Regards, > >Thad
> > > Gaston > >-Original
> > > Message- >From: ed smith
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent:
> > > Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM >To:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:
> > > Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's
> our
> > > arrogance' >[7:19679]
> > > > > >That is the biggest load of crap I've ever
> > > heard! >The people we
> > > see dancing in the streets of Palestine are
> > > brainwashed! > >The common
> > > person in the middle east would give anything to
> > > come and >live in >the
> > > U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call
> home.
> > > Believe me, I >did 2
> > > >years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping
> in
> > > that part of the
> > > >World. > >I don't see all those God forsaken
> > > countries having a problem
> > > with >people >wanting to immigrate there! > >If
> they
> > > believe they are
> > > God's chosen people, why didn't he make them
> >from
> > > >Hawaii, or
> > > Switzerland, or some other nice part of this
> World?
> > > > >They don't have
> > > the open airways or free flow of information to
> make
> > > >logical >decisions.
> > > They only believe what their ignorant and
> jealous
> > > leaders >tell >them. >
> > > >They wanted a "Holy War" I think they have
> it,,
> > > > Holy @!#$ Ahkmed,
> > > here comes a Tomahawk missile! > Holy @!#$
> Al-@!#$,
> > > here comes a flights
> > > of F-15's!!! > Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm
> > > going to see Allah! >
> > > >Wait and see brings new meaning to "bombs
> > > bursting in air". > >YOU
> > > SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email
> anyway. >
> > > > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: A plan to rebuild.... [7:19611]

2001-09-13 Thread John Mairs

Maybe I am an Idiot (well, there is no doubt that I am
but still...)
If I remember right, when I was in Canada and driving
back into the United States it was the responsibility
of the Customs officers of the United States that were
responible for checking my apples and bananas (and
cemtex and bullets), I don't remember seeing even
ONE Canadian officer there, ehh?

granted I was twelve at the time (two years ago...
well, in terms of maturity)...

is border protection responsibility like the polarity
of the North and South poles? If so, shouldn't it
still be 20,000 more years before we have the
Canadians and the US officers changing booths.


--- Stephen Mole  wrote:
> Take a freakin hike Dipshit. What? they wouldn't
> have found another way in?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:14 PM
> Subject: RE: A plan to rebuild [7:19611]
> 
> 
> > I guess you're not aware of Canada's reputation as
> being a haven for
> > murderers and terrorists.  Once these people are
> here, we can't deport
> them
> > because of goofy Canadian politics.  When these
> people come into Canada,
> > Canada has a responsibility to ensure these people
> don't have undesirable
> > backgrounds.  Then when they're here, it's easy
> for them to get forged
> > documents indicating that they are Canadian
> citizens.  That makes the US
> > immigration department's job more difficult
> because of the free flowing
> > policy of letting Canadians pass through the US
> border with a minimum of
> > background checking.  It's the freedom that Canada
> enjoys with the US
> that's
> > at risk unless our Government steps up to the
> plate and tightens things
> up.
> > How often have you heard after the fact that
> Canada Immigration didn't
> > investigate into people's backgrounds properly? 
> Far too often I'm afraid.
> >
> > It wasn't the Canadian immigration department that
> stopped the guy heading
> > into the US to blow up LAX on the millenium... it
> was the US immigration
> > department.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Torren Craigie-Manson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:22 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: A plan to rebuild [7:19611]
> > >
> > >
> > > > > --- Leigh Anne Chisholm  wrote:
> > > {snip}
> > > > > > I would really hope that of all the things
> that come out of this,
> if
> > > it's
> > > > > > found that the terrorists came through
> Canada, the US
> > > whacks Canadian
> > > > > > politicians upside the head for their lax
> immigration policies and
> > > > > > incompetent information service (Canada's
> version of the FBI).
> They
> > > should
> > > > > > have been tracking those terrorists the
> second they entered
> Canada.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **I** am not impressed...
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > Leigh Anne,
> > >
> > > Perhaps you can explain to me why you feel that
> Canadian
> > > authorities should
> > > have spotted these terrorists, but you make no
> mention of the
> > > failure of US
> > > authorities to spot them. Your statement is
> illogical and insulting to
> the
> > > integrity of Canada.
> > >
> > > This is an emotionally charged situation for
> people around the
> > > world. Please
> > > take a minute to stop and think before you
> appoint yourself judge
> > > and jury,
> > > and begin pointing fingers at _anyone_.
> > >
> > > Torren
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Re: Dual FIFO? [7:19691]

2001-09-13 Thread John Neiberger

I understand that concept but I haven't been able to connect that to the
dual FIFO queue.  How does fragmentation relate to the dual queue?  If I
follow Cisco's suggestion and use a fragmentation size of 1600 then no
fragmentation is actually occurring, yet the dual FIFO queue is
implemented.  

I have this nagging feeling that I'm just missing something that I
should have figured out by now.  

Thanks,
John

>>> "MADMAN"  9/13/01 9:01:55 AM >>>
The bottom line is you fragment data packets, never voice, so that a
voice packets, which are small, never get queued behind a 1500 byte
packet.  The rule of thumb I think is you don't want more than 150ms
delay in any voice packets or you may as well dump it.

  dave

Stephen Skinner wrote:
> 
> the only thing i could find was this
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.pdf 
> 
> which says
> 
> "Turn on fragmentation for low speed links (less than 1.5Mbps).
> Set the fragment size so voice packets are not fragmented and do not
> experience a serialization delay greater than 20 ms.
> 
> Lowest Link Speed in Path Recommended Fragmentation Size
> 
> 56Kbps 70 bytes
> 64Kbps 80 bytes
> 128Kbps 160 bytes
> 256Kbps 320 bytes
> 512Kbps 640 bytes
> 768Kbps 1000 bytes
> 1536Kbps 1600 bytes
> 
> Note: For 1536 Kbps, no fragmentation is technically needed, but
> fragmentation is needed to enable the dual first-in, first-out
> (FIFO) queueing system to ensure voice quality. A fragment size of
1600
> bytes enables the dual FIFO, but since 1600 bytes is
> higher than the typical serial interface maximum transmission unit
(MTU),
> large data packets are not fragmented.
> 
> from what it says it`s just multple "stack" queue
> 
> sorry i can`t be of more help..
> 
> Cheers
> 
> steve
> >From: "John Neiberger"
> >Reply-To: "John Neiberger"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >Subject: Dual FIFO? [7:19691]
> >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:34:53 -0400
> >
> >When configuring VoIP on T-1 links, I see that CCO suggests turning
on
> >frame relay fragmentation with a fragment size of 1600 simply to
turn on
> >the dual fifo queue.  What is that?  I'm familiar with the single
fifo
> >but what is dual fifo and how does it work?
> >
> >I've searched CCO and all I can find is how to turn it on.  I have
yet
> >to find any sort of explanation.
> >
> >thanks!
> >
> >John
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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19825]

2001-09-13 Thread jack isalter

I have a hard time understanding that "arrogance" on
the part of a nation deserves any punishment from
another.  Is not the punisher of arrogance even more
arrogant?... shame
 on Reeta Sinha.  How can you justify any violence in
the light of arrogance?... certainly not mass murder
of mothers, fathers and children. 

 If Reeta thinks that America somehow deserves this
tragedy or "had it coming", then please, please go to
some other country to live that is more agreeable to
your conscience...
 leave us Americans to mourn our loss with reverance,
because to have you here among us is a disgraceful
abomination. 


 signed: 

 I withhold my name in case you want to drive a plane
into my neighborhood because of MY arrogance.

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Re: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

2001-09-13 Thread Brian Whalen

Heres a good solaris security article, likey applicable to other nixes..

http://www.samag.com/articles/2000/0013/0013c/0013c.htm

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, MADMAN wrote:

> I don't know what else on the router you could do but there are things
> you can do on your host but not being a sys admin I can't get into
> details.  Check this out:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/4.html
>
>   Dave
>
> Haydn Solomon wrote:
> >
> > Actually I was asking what OTHER means than tcp intercept there was
> > because we don't have the version that supports it. Can you answer that?
> > I know that our version doesn't cause I checked with the "?" feature and
> > the option isn't there. In any case here is a copy of the sh ver.
> >
> > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> > IOS (tm) RSP Software (RSP-ISV-M), Version 12.0(15), RELEASE SOFTWARE
> > (fc1)
> > Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> > Compiled Wed 27-Dec-00 13:54 by linda
> > Image text-base: 0x60010930, data-base: 0x60C46000
> >
> > ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(8)CA1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
> > SOFTWARE (fc1)
> > BOOTFLASH: GS Software (RSP-BOOT-M), Version 11.1(22)CA, EARLY
> > DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> >
> > -- Haydn
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:05 AM
> > To: Haydn Solomon
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]
> >
> >   send a sh ver of your router, not all platforms support TCP Intercept.
> >
> >   Dave
> >
> > Haydn Solomon wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was recently reading an article on ciscos site about strategies for
> > > preventing denial of service attacks. They mentioned the ip intercept
> > > configuration feature for IOS version 11.3. However our routers are
> > > running version 12.0 and doesnt have that feature. Does anyone out
> > > there know what other effective strategies can be used to prevent this
> > > kind of attack on IOS versions other than 11.3? Any input will be
> > > appreciated, thanks.
> > >
> > > -Haydn
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RE: blocking music city [7:19806]

2001-09-13 Thread george gittins

I ran into an article that classifies napster traffic and you can limit the
amount of bandwith to use. however is there something the classifies mp3
traffic and from there implement a policy routing?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Allen May
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: blocking music city [7:19806]


The easiest way is to create access-lists to block the authentication
servers (if applicable) or the site itself.  Keep in mind that many large
sites own an entire subnet of IPs for load balancing so it may require more
than just the first IP you see when you ping by name.

If it's on a Microsoft network, Profiles can be activated to only allow
specific applications to run.  Disallowing setup.exe can be very
discouraging to users as well ;)

PIX can block ActiveX content as well.

Lastly, but probably most importantly, usage conduct must be put into place
& made known to all users.

- Original Message -
From: "george gittins"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: blocking music city [7:19806]


> I work for a School District and i was wondering if any one here knew howw
> to  block
> programs such as Music City, or as know as morpheus, or gnutella. I
running
> cisco equipment 3810 at each site , and a pix.
> has someone  done it or any pointers will work.
> also we use aol instant messanger to comunicate with the campuses, but we
> want to restrict users the have aol but using the network to access the
> internet. its a difficult scenario but would appreciate if someone knew a
> solution




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RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19822]

2001-09-13 Thread LeBrun, Tim

One important thing that I would like to add is this - We may be taking our
lumps but we certainly were not knocked off!  WE ARE STILL "KING OF THE
HILL"!

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Bill Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19675]


As I read your posting and write this response, I fear the sheer anger and 
absolute outrage I feel at your comments will unhinge me.

You speak of our "American arrogance", yet give no thought or credit for the

untold times that we've fought and DIED for the Little Guy.  When smaller 
countries have had horrible disasters, AMERICANS were there first to help.

Your message oozes with sympathy for the attackers - not the victims.  These

terrorists murdered THOUSANDS of CIVILIANS who may not even know where 
Afghanistan or the Middle East are.  There is no punishment dyer enough for 
these monsters!  How would you feel, if in a few years, one of these 
monsters detonates a suitcase sized nuclear device at a sporting event with 
millions watching? Perhaps in your neighborhood?

No, this isn't the David and Goliath story.  It's the story of radicalism at

it's worst.  These individuals only want to expand their name at the expense

of any infamy.  They have no moral center.  THEY WANT NETWORK FACE TIME!

The boy in your analogy, who came from behind to knock "The King of the 
Hill" down, was also faceless and a coward just as these attackers.


>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' 
>[7:19655]
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:33:10 -0400
>
>Reeta Sinha
>'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
>
>During winters when I was little, the boys on my block played a game called
>King of the Hill. After storms, snowplows clearing the streets would leave
>behind huge hills of dense, packed snow hills 15 to 20 feet high. The game
>was simple. The one who reached the top of the hill and kept everyone else
>off it was the King of the Hill. Boys would scramble up the hill, shoving
>and pushing each other, sometimes sending a playmate tumbling to the 
>ground.
>It was a rough game and usually it was the bully who made it to the top. 
>The
>biggest, loudest, meanest kid on the block became the King of the Hill. The
>others -- smaller and weaker -- tumbled down quickly or were thrown off by
>the King, if they got close to the top of the hill.
>
>Standing a safe distance away, I would watch the boys who were knocked off
>the hill over and over again. They never looked defeated. With their chins
>set, they would get up from the ground, brush the snow off their clothes
>and, after grabbing handfuls of snow, climb up the hill again, determined 
>to
>topple the King. What they lacked in bulk and height, they made up for with
>creativity (icy snow shoved inside a shirt pretty much paralyzes any 
>bully).
>Inevitably, the bully's arrogance was his downfall. Confident that he, the
>King, was the biggest, the strongest, the best and so certain that the
>others were puny and dumb, the bully usually didn't see the boy sneaking up
>behind him. The one who, with one shove, sent the former King sliding
>headfirst down the hill.
>
>The smaller boys didn't really care who was the King of the Hill. That 
>snowy
>kingdom would be gone come spring. It was the bully's attitude, his
>assumption that he deserved to be King that made the boys so determined.
>Without treaties or negotiation, they would band together and attack the
>King, just to see him take a fall.
>
>Bullies, kings, dictators, meanies don't seem to get it, do they? The more
>they push, the more they shove, the more they flex their muscles, the more
>determined it makes those they ridicule and bully.
>
>The world has seen this human drama played out time and time again
>throughout history, sometimes by individuals, sometimes with entire peoples
>with uprisings. In fact and fiction, those who are pushed frequently and 
>far
>enough, always push back.
>
>It happened again on September 11, 2001. When terrorists crashed passenger
>planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon building in the US,
>someone, some group of people, was pushing back. The message seems pretty
>clear: the wealthy, powerful king had to be knocked off the hill.
>
>Perhaps this is not the time to criticize a country that has suffered such
>great loss of life. But, as I have listened to news reports and watched the
>horrific images for the past several hours, the most recent showing a 
>second
>plane aiming directly for the World Trade Center, crashing through a tower
>as onlookers scream, I can't help but wonder. What would drive some people
>to take such extreme measures? Why would anyone go to these lengths to hurt
>the United States?
>
>I can come up with only one answer. It's not us they hate. It's no

Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19821]

2001-09-13 Thread Drew - Home

> C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
government
> for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
spilt
> by them and 3rd parties funded by them.

Decades?  Gee, I would say centuries.  You speak of ignorance, yet you make
such a
foolish and psuedo-enlightened remark as this?  The actions of every single
nation in
the world are taken in their own best interests.  I hope that every action
taken by my
governent is taken in our, as Americans, collective best interest.  I don't
pay taxes to
fund best interests of the rest of the world... thats what charity is for.

>Is
the hatred you feel for your
> attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against
these
> people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
else
> out there feels this against your country.

But the reasons are very different.

> The US
must try and find these
> people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same
> time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat
> mess Israel is in...

Tit for tat?  Israel has been fighting with gloves on for far too long, in
my opinion.
They have the capacity to obliterate the Palestinians, and have not.  Would
thier
adversary act with such restraint?  The answer, to anyone who knows what
goes
on over there, is a resounding no.  The Palestinians have one goal; to drive
the
Israeli into the sea.  If that same goal were shared by the Isralei, the
task would have
been accomplished.

>
> I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
> semtex used in my country -

Money from Americans is not the same as American money, I say.  Yes, we
have alot of Irish Americans who fund the IRA and their ilk, but we have a
far greater number that fund humanitarian efforts.  To imply otherwise is
arrogant, far more arrogant than you accuse your American brother of being.

And for the Irish, to imply that the UK is blameless is shameless.

>children are dead as are
many policemen not to
> mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion.

Protestants kill Catholics too, mate.  And those Protestants get their
bullets from??

>
The
> level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is
> disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good
> idea.
>

When it happens in London, we'll see what song you're singing.  I don't
think too
many brits were complaining about American bullets during either of the
World
Wars.  I wonder how the Argentines felt about Brittish bullets in the
Falklands...
I wonder how many people in India, in China, in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Iran,
Iraq,
Saudi Arabil, Pakistan, Afganistan feel still about British Imperialism.
The list goes
on.

Face facts... when England hade the resources, nothing made them happier
than
trying to dominate the entire world.  "The sun never sets on the British
Empire".
Well, the sun set some time ago, and don't try to play Mr. Benevolant now.
And
don't veil your envy so thinly...




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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19820]

2001-09-13 Thread MADMAN

A non-American wrote:
> 
> Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of death
or
> life imprisonment ?
> 
> The facts as I see them are -
> 
> A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they received.
My
> heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to
help!
> 
> B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
> retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than
knee-jerk.
> Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to assume
> that they are less intelligent than yourselves.

  Don't think anyone rational is assuming these people are dumb.

> 
> C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
government
> for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
spilt
> by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
> attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against these
> people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
else
> out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find these
> people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same
> time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat
> mess Israel is in...

  Yes and the UK or wherever your from only has an interest in France,
Germany, Ireland etc..., ya right you self rightous European can you say
WWI, WWII, Crusades, etc...
> 
> I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
> semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not to
> mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion. The
> level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is
> disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good
> idea.
> 
> Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the news
> from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.

  I agree that CNN, Clinton News Network is biased to the liberal left
and of coarse the news is aimed at Americans so I suppose it's not
tailored to UK audiences, what's your point??

You can pick ANY country and find faults, we are, after all, made up of
imperfect people but we are the model for freedom throughout the world
and therefore a big target also.

  AN AMERICAN who is not AFRAID to use his name

  Dave
> 
> A non-American
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Fenech, William J
> Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
> [7:19699]
> 
> Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The people
> who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be
> exterminated, pure and simple.
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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19819]

2001-09-13 Thread hal9001

Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that encourages
this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
cult!

Karl
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> aaammen!
>
> Allah be paved!
>
>
> --- ed smith  wrote:
> > Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
> > steam off! Who the hell
> > cares about CISCO right now?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > >From: "Thad Gaston" >To: "ed smith" , >Subject: RE:
> > 'It's not the US
> > they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep
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> > >Thread-Index:
> > AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg > >All, > >I
> > would discourage any
> > further post regarding this topic as it becoming
> > >more and more useless
> > and distracting. None of our sentiments are going
> > >to bring back the
> > lives of those that have passed on nor bring about
> > the >justice the we
> > all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track
> > and >get back to what
> > this list is intended for. > >Regards, > >Thad
> > Gaston > >-Original
> > Message- >From: ed smith
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent:
> > Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM >To:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:
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> > arrogance' >[7:19679]
> > > > >That is the biggest load of crap I've ever
> > heard! >The people we
> > see dancing in the streets of Palestine are
> > brainwashed! > >The common
> > person in the middle east would give anything to
> > come and >live in >the
> > U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home.
> > Believe me, I >did 2
> > >years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in
> > that part of the
> > >World. > >I don't see all those God forsaken
> > countries having a problem
> > with >people >wanting to immigrate there! > >If they
> > believe they are
> > God's chosen people, why didn't he make them >from
> > >Hawaii, or
> > Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World?
> > > >They don't have
> > the open airways or free flow of information to make
> > >logical >decisions.
> > They only believe what their ignorant and jealous
> > leaders >tell >them. >
> > >They wanted a "Holy War" I think they have it,,
> > > Holy @!#$ Ahkmed,
> > here comes a Tomahawk missile! > Holy @!#$ Al-@!#$,
> > here comes a flights
> > of F-15's!!! > Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm
> > going to see Allah! >
> > >Wait and see brings new meaning to "bombs
> > bursting in air". > >YOU
> > SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email anyway. >
> > > > >
> >
> >_
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The hub from hell... [7:19818]

2001-09-13 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
someone has one.

Task:

To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
connection.

Before:

Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was connected to
a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700 series
router which was connected to our LAN.

Everything was working fine, but slow.

Goal:

Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our LAN.

Steps:

I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.

I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the active
PVC and all was well.

I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server at
the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.

The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
instead.

I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert or
telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720 router,
and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.

This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I also
knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.

I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of the
hub, and now everything worked fine.

?

Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work with
a crossed cable and a switch?

I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the network,
even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.

Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the hub
hates the 1720?

Thanks,

Ole

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Static Route Info [7:19817]

2001-09-13 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I figured out how to put a description on a static route. I know it probably
won't help many of you, but this is one of the anal things I had to do for
my boss:

ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.2 name static route to web server
Thanks




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Re: A plan to rebuild.... [7:19611]

2001-09-13 Thread Charlie Hartwell

It pains me to respond to this but it has to be done. I apologise to
groupstudy for continuing with this. Feel free to just ignore it
(which I tried to do).
I cannot believe, at a time when the free world should be pulling
together, that some people feel the need to inflame emotions and
attempt to turn America into an inward looking, solitary nation.
I have responded to some statements inline.

 --- "J. Walker"  wrote: > I received this from
my sister and I thought it was worth
> sharing...

I wish you hadn't
 
> JW
> 
> This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The
> Good Neighbor. Widespread, but only partial news coverage,  was
> given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by
> Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator.
> 
> 
> What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed
> in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to 
> speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the 
> least appreciated people on all the earth.
> 
> Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
> lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in 
> billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts.

This makes it sound like no other country made sacrifices in WWII!
Millions of European men, women and children were killed in that war.
Now, WWII would have been lost if it were not for the intervention of
the US, the whole world knows that and appreciates it.
 
> None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its
> remaining debts to the United States.
> 
> When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the 
> Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted 
> and swindled on the streets of Paris.
> 
> I was there.
> 
> I saw it.
> 
> When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United
> States that hurries in to help.

The author is obviously the victim of national propaganda. Whenever a
natural disaster strikes anywhere in the world the majority of the
wealthier nations intervene in any way they can. Britain always makes
itself available in these situations - I can name dozens of examples
but I don't feel I need to defend Britain right now.
 
> This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
> Nobody helped.

Again, in these situations our Prime Minister WITHOUT FAIL offers the
help of our military and emergency services and they did so again
this week. Our help has been declined by the US which I can
understand that but we are always there should our help be needed.
 
> The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars
> into discouraged countries.
> 
> Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent,
> warmongering Americans.
>
> I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over
> the
> erosion of
> the United States dollar build its own airplane.

1) Nobody is gloating about the strength of the Dollar - it is still
the benchmark for every currency in the world and will remain so.
2) Hello? Airbus? Hello? Concorde?
 
> Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the
> Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
> 
> If so, why don't they fly them?

Well yes, we do in fact. The new double decker Airbus design is so
good that Boeing have pulled out of that part of the airliner market
altogether and ceased development of their own double decker concept.
Plus, Airbus were the first to use a full commercial fly-by-wire
system, which is probably the biggest development in airline
technology of the last 10 years. Right now, the Airbus A3*0 series is
just as well respected as the Boeing 7*7 series.

> Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American 
> Planes?

wrong wrong wrong. Even US lines use Airbus planes - they don't care
about patriotism, just profit so, whatever plane best fits their
needs, they buy.

> Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or 
> woman on the moon?

What purpose would it serve? The US doesnt bother anymore and they
only did it then to show off to the Russians.
 
> You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.

That is possibly THE most ridiculous statement ever made.

> You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.

.and the invention of precision engineering which made the next
statement possible.
 
> You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -
> not once, but several times - and safely home again.
> 
> You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the
> store window for everybody to look at.

*cough* JFK *cough*
 
> Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
> 
> They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are
> breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa

> at home to spend here.
> 
> When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
> through age, it was t

RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19815]

2001-09-13 Thread Aderion Brewer

Priscilla,

While I always welcome and look out to reading your comments...How can you
rationalize an illogical act?  While I do agree, many of us are angry and
many are grieving, I completely agree everyone is entitled to an opinion it
is the person assuming that they know the USA government or it's citizen's
behavior and not to mention, what these terrorist's were thinking!  This can
only be the case if they are close enough to ascertain such a comment.
However, what I took from this person is that they feel we (American
citizens) are the problem...not the terrorists.  We are the 'Big Bad USA'
not the terrorist.  Our freedom is the problem, not the terrorists.  For
God's sake, let's not try to be Psychologist's here and remain Engineers and
realize that we're all human and have beliefs and be realistic that their
beliefs lean on the underdogs, which are the 3rd world counties, which has
Dictators and/or religious beliefs that dictate the direction of their
countries and not appreciate the 'freedom' of religion and 'free' speech,
and 'free' living as our history demonstrates and embraces.  These are two
idealism's that cannot mix and as a result innocent people have paid the
cost and in part our Government has dropped the ball from the FAA to central
intelligence to counter act and/or ignore the threats delivered by these
evil, self-destructing people, by not taking them seriously.  Ignorance has
nothing to do with arrogance.

I'm personally so very tired of us making excuses, taking care of other
countries when we need help, with our taxes our homeless people, etc., the
list goes on, right here and now for our own people, in our own country.
Based on the article from 'Canada' which really drives home, the USA have
done more than their fair share of assistance, and it is rarely
reciprocated, not to mention the various religious organizations, charities
and fund raisers for these countries that can't control their corrupt
governments and people, when people have given freely, supposedly to those
in need.  Instead the corrupt people take and take and dribble little to
those whom it was intended and later on ask for more funding from the good
'ole USA.  The sheer assault on our common good to help and provide
assistance and then to take extreme advantage of that generosity by using
our educational systems, in which many go back to their countries to help
their countries, and/or are able to start and obtain funding and/or
government assistance to begin a new life here when we can't even feed our
homeless or financially assist the small businesses to get loans to fund
their ventures, but other nationalities can come here and get funding and do
and then want to come back and Bomb us! Ironically, when you go into these
small business establishments, you usually don't see any Amercian's on the
P/R!  Hey, but that's really ok, isn't it.  They're now American citizens,
too!  My mistake, please pardon my cynicism, I'm really trying to remain
positive.

If nothing more comes of this to drive home for our people, to be a wake up
call, that we should begin looking out more for each other, our families and
our fellow American citizens and businesses and holding our government
accountable for our tax dollars and security concerns, because we do take
accountability seriously here...some heads should roll based on what got
thru the cracks!  Let's get American back on track for our own social
issues, financial dilemmas and political dramas, and once we've paid down
our national debt, created more jobs should we then begin planning to help
others.  This is why I stated earlier, we ARE a Blessed Nation as a whole,
regardless if they pay the loans back or not, return the generosity or not,
God will and has, despite what has happened...WE WILL OVERCOME! (I promise
this will be the end of my venting...thanks for listening and for the
positive comments on my previous reply!)

Peace to all and God Speed,

Aderion Brewer
President, MACG
Metro Atlanta Cisco Group (MACG)


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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19799]


The original poster was trying to help us see the point of view of the
terrorists. He didn't say that he agreed with them. Understanding their
viewpoint will help us prepare for further evil deeds from them and help us
defeat them. Know thy enemy. This is logical. What the poster didn't
understand is that we are grieving and not ready for logic.

According to Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, there are five stages of grief.

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

Many people are still in the anger stage. This is not a good time to be
sending e-mails. They come out all wrong. Let's avoid the topic until
everyone calms down.

Peace,

Priscilla

At 06:57 AM 9/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Ho

Re: blocking music city [7:19806]

2001-09-13 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Here is a site with a listing of various ports/applications

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/port-table.html

I recommend putting a sniffer on the wire and firing up morpheous and see
what it trys to attach to..

-Patrick

>>> "george gittins"  09/13/01 01:38PM >>>
I work for a School District and i was wondering if any one here knew howw
to  block
programs such as Music City, or as know as morpheus, or gnutella. I running
cisco equipment 3810 at each site , and a pix.
has someone  done it or any pointers will work.
also we use aol instant messanger to comunicate with the campuses, but we
want to restrict users the have aol but using the network to access the
internet. its a difficult scenario but would appreciate if someone knew a
solution




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Re: blocking music city [7:19806]

2001-09-13 Thread Allen May

The easiest way is to create access-lists to block the authentication
servers (if applicable) or the site itself.  Keep in mind that many large
sites own an entire subnet of IPs for load balancing so it may require more
than just the first IP you see when you ping by name.

If it's on a Microsoft network, Profiles can be activated to only allow
specific applications to run.  Disallowing setup.exe can be very
discouraging to users as well ;)

PIX can block ActiveX content as well.

Lastly, but probably most importantly, usage conduct must be put into place
& made known to all users.

- Original Message -
From: "george gittins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: blocking music city [7:19806]


> I work for a School District and i was wondering if any one here knew howw
> to  block
> programs such as Music City, or as know as morpheus, or gnutella. I
running
> cisco equipment 3810 at each site , and a pix.
> has someone  done it or any pointers will work.
> also we use aol instant messanger to comunicate with the campuses, but we
> want to restrict users the have aol but using the network to access the
> internet. its a difficult scenario but would appreciate if someone knew a
> solution




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Re: blocking music city [7:19806]

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Linehan

Laura Chappell has written a great article on Gnutella in Novell Connection
magazine. Her website has info on how to find the article and on what was
written. Go to:

www.packet-level.com

and scroll down a little bit until you see "The pain of Gnutella".

Novell Connection is at www.nwconnection.com and the article is in the
September 2001 issue.

Good luck.

Mike Linehan
- Original Message -
From: "george gittins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: blocking music city [7:19806]


> I work for a School District and i was wondering if any one here knew howw
> to  block
> programs such as Music City, or as know as morpheus, or gnutella. I
running
> cisco equipment 3810 at each site , and a pix.
> has someone  done it or any pointers will work.
> also we use aol instant messanger to comunicate with the campuses, but we
> want to restrict users the have aol but using the network to access the
> internet. its a difficult scenario but would appreciate if someone knew a
> solution




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