Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that required for CCNP/CCIE... Hmmph. I have done the BSCI, but none of the other exams for the CCIP (I had the option of doing a freebie exam at Networkers, which is the only reason I did it). The level of routing protocol knowledge required for BSCI was very shallow, in my opinion. I haven't done the BSCN, either (I did ACRC a few years ago), so I don't know how the BSCI compares to BSCN, but the BSCI required *far* less detailed knowledge than the ACRC did. I hope that the BSCN requires more routing knowledge than the BSCI, because if not, I reckon the CCNP is going towards a cornflakes cert (or maybe I just struck the easy BSCI questions). JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 30/05/2002 04:12 pm - Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/05/2002 01:28 pm Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] Is this part of a business decision process?: Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's like they pulled a few random topics from the CCIE (and CCNP) and made a cert out of it. I don't think many people are buying it. I agree, but that wouldn't make the certification invalid as such. Take CCNP for example. Since CCIE was around first, couldn't it be said that it looks like they took topics (routing, switch, remote access, troubleshooting) and made a cert out of it (CCNP). And that would be a (mostly) true statement. But anyone who has done CCNP and at least the CCIE written can testify that the depth of knowledge of the CCIE can't touch any single CCNP exam. I mean, CCIE written required you to know OSPF/BGP/EIGRP but nowhere (IMHO) near the detail as the CCNP Routing exam. Especially the switching. The CCIE written should challenge anyone's switching knowledge that has passed the BCMSN exam.. Having said that, I think (although I'm not personally pursuing it) that the CCIP, with it's focus on MCAST, QoS, and MPLS, is going to be a much more detailed exam track similar to the way CCNP was compared to CCIE. I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that required for CCNP/CCIE (except the Routing CCNP exam, which as pointed out, is virtually identical to the CCNP routing exam except for IS-IS). I don't think the little bit of Multicast learned in CCNP switching (which is more than required for CCIE written, IMHO) would be adequate to pass the MCAST exam. Etc etc. To summarize, I'm personally not going for CCIP, but I could see how employers in the right environment (i.e. using MPLS, Multicast, etc) might perfer someone with a deeper background in those topics as opposed to a CCNP or even a CCIE.. My 2 cents. Mike W. Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45430t=45166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tacacs Question [7:45390]
Try global config command, ip tacacs source-interface -Keyur Shah- CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching) CISSP,ccsa,css1,scsa,scna,mct,mcse,cni,mcne Hello Computers Say Hello to Your Future! http://www.hellocomputers.com Toll-Free: 1.877.794.3556 -Original Message- From: Richard Tufaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tacacs Question [7:45390] When configuring Cisco ACS server with a router across the WAN connected by frame-relay, is there a way to tell the router to send the IP-originating interface as the ethernet controller? Much like when setting up syslog across a Frame WAN using: logging source-INTERFACE. Any ideas? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45431t=45390 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security CCIE [7:45167]
Here is my suggested partial list of resources for ccie security studies. 1. Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) book from cisco press 2. PIX cisco press book 3. VPN cisco press book 4. IDS cisco press book 5. Cisco secure internet security solutions by andrew mason 6. NSA white paper at, http://www.hellocomputers.com/cis-2.pdf 7. CCIE Security Written (350-018) test prep tools from www.boson.com 8. CCIE Security lab workbook by Hello Computers, www.hellocomputers.com/cisco/ccie_security/ccie_security.htm 9. CCIE Security lab subscription by NetCG. 10. Read a lot about Radius for written exam prep. 11. learn about Microsoft windows nt/2000 user, group and file permissions 12. learn about unix files /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, .rhosts, /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny, /var/adm/messages. Learn about commands like dmesg, lastlog. 13. last but not the least, CCNP level routing and switching knowledge is required for written. -Keyur Shah- CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching) CISSP,ccsa,css1,scsa,scna,mct,mcse,cni,mcne Hello Computers Say Hello to Your Future! http://www.hellocomputers.com Toll-Free: 1.877.794.3556 Fremont: 510.795.6815 -Original Message- From: sparkest pig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Security CCIE [7:45167] what is the must have books for this certificate? (just like not all Routing and Switching books are must have) thanks _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45433t=45167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Basic ISDN BRI config needed [7:45416]
Can we see the rest of your configs. If you have a passive interface, without a static route, you wont be able to ping. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45435t=45416 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vpn Client, PIX, Microsoft IAS, Microsoft CA scenario [7:45434]
Hello everyone, A couple of friends out there showed interest in details of the scenario in subject, and here are the detailed steps to do the job. I hope no one gets bored, : To summarise the scenario, A VPN client connects to PIX using RSA signatures and the certificates are issued using MS CA. User authentication is via MS IAS Radius server. User names are defined in MS Domain. 1- Install MS CA. I have installed Enterprise root CA. 2- Install SCEP support for MS CA. This is found in Windows 2000 Toolit. file to use is cepsetup.exe. It is used for PIX to enroll itself to MS CA. 3- Configure IAS for radius authentication. You need to configure a client with relevant password, which should match the password in PIX. (IAS is available in Windows2000 ) Make sure that Radius supports PAP authentication with PIX. Also configure any remote user as dial-in allowed in MS domain if necessary. Now, MS side is ready for certificating and authenticating VPN users... 4- Configure PIX for IPSec VPN configuration. Following are the relevant lines from my working configuration, but you can check cisco site for many more examples. I am assuming you know how to configure PIX for NAT and other basic stuff. - crypto ipsec transform-set test_transform esp-des esp-sha-hmac crypto dynamic-map test_dyn_set 4 set transform-set test_transform crypto map test_map 20 ipsec-isakmp dynamic test_dyn_set crypto map test_map client authentication test_radius crypto map test_map interface outside isakmp enable outside isakmp policy 8 authentication rsa-sig isakmp policy 8 encryption des isakmp policy 8 hash md5 isakmp policy 8 group 2 isakmp policy 8 lifetime 86400 vpngroup test_vpn address-pool test_pool vpngroup test_vpn dns-server 172.16.0.2 vpngroup test_vpn wins-server 172.16.0.2 vpngroup test_vpn default-domain example.com vpngroup test_vpn idle-time 1800 ca identity test_ca 172.16.0.2://certsrv/mscep/mscep.dll ca configure test_ca ra 1 20 crloptional ca authenticate test_ca ca enroll test_ca CHALLENGE --- In the enrollment phase, there is one important point : before entering the LAST line above to PIX, you should connect to http://your_local_ca_server://certsrv/mscep/mscep.dll with your browser. At that page, you will see your CHALLENGE one time password which you should use in command. 5- Install VPN client. This is straight forward. 6- You should copy certificates from CA to VPN client. There are two ways : Either you prepare a file at VPN client and request a certificate, or you directly prepare certificate at the http://your_local_ca_server/certsrv and copy that cert to VPN client. At the certificate preparation phase, you should be carefull with OU (or department) entitiy in certificate request. This entity should match your vpngroup definition in your PIX configuration. ( test_vpn in this case) Also if you are directly issuing cert from web site (rather than requesting via file) you should use IPSec Offline template in MS CA. ou (department) definition is found in that template. (Leaving as an exercise to find how to add IPSec Offline template :-) You should add both CA certificate to VPN client and a personal certificate. Use certificate manager which comes with VPN client installation. 7- Lastly, you should create a connection using newly installed certificates and connect tou your PIX. I hope this helps to someone who is preparing for certs. As you see, the procedure is straight forward. My mistake was to match organization name to vpngroup definition, instead of OU (department) name when I fail to connect. (It took two days blind search of the mistake of my configuration :-)) Best regards, Ufuk Yasibeyli. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45434t=45434 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recommended books for BCRAN [7:45407]
Hi, Just passed CCNP BCRAn last last friday :-D, made a 830. Well i read mostly from the online CNAP curriculum (very very good) but also from the cisco Press Book, Building Cisco Remote Access Networks isbn # 1-578-70-091-4. also used a few Boson tests. And This should be all real good. Atleast Worked for me. Hersh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45436t=45407 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic ISDN BRI config needed [7:45416]
Hi, Thanks for pointing that out. I actually got it back up after I wiped out everything and just started from scratch. That's what happens when you get caught up working on different scenarios. ;- Time to rest the mind and watch the NBA... Elmer - Original Message - From: Wes Stevens To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Basic ISDN BRI config needed [7:45416] Your dialer sting needs to be the phone number of the other teletone port. For the first router it should be 8358662 and 8358661 for the second router. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45438t=45416 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MRTG and ISDN [7:45421]
Mohd, You need to recompile the file(s) needed by MRTG so it can properly identify the NEW interface(s) to monitor. Check the documentation to guide you on how to do this. Good luck. Elmer - Original Message - From: Mohannad Khuffash To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:03 PM Subject: MRTG and ISDN [7:45421] Dear All, I have the MRTG since a long time worked well for monitoring my 60 remote sites where most of them 1601 sereis routers(11.2 IOS), when i decide to have a backup link for some sites i install BRI WIC and make the configuration, the probem that the MTRG being confused for monitoring the primary link which is a TDM or a RF(the ISDN is not active) , it give me either zero traffic or a little steady traffic, where either didn't reflect the true traffic !! Any one have an idea ? Thanks -- Mohannad N. Khuffash Network Administrator Palestine Telecommunication Company Tel: 00972-02-2982330 Fax:00972-02-2980235 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45439t=45421 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
I'm thinking that was probably a fluke or something. IMO, the BSCI was virtually identical to BSCN with the addition of IS-IS. Although I had some study materials for ACRC, I never took it (because it changed to BSCN), so I can't compare the two. I might dig up my ACRC practice tests and stuff, because I can't really see the BSCN being *far* less detailed than ACRC. from what I've read and see people say, there were only minor differences in the ACRC and BSCN But I also heard from people that the BCMSN was a bit more difficult than the CLSC (apparently the CLSC didn't cover multicast, IGMP, CGMP, MLS, etc) But again, I didn't take it, so my comparison could be way off... A good friend of mine did CCNP then CCIE. He finished CCIE while I was working on CCNP. He did the old style CCNP (ACRC, CLSC, etc). I did the new style CCNP (BSCN, BCMSN, etc). We compared 'notes' so to speak, and I would say the CCNP of now is any less challenging than the previous version. If anything perhaps a bit more difficult because it encompassed a bit more.. Either way my point was that if you've taken BSCN/BSCI (and passed) then you should already have a more in-depth knowledge than needed on CCIE written Mike W. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that required for CCNP/CCIE... Hmmph. I have done the BSCI, but none of the other exams for the CCIP (I had the option of doing a freebie exam at Networkers, which is the only reason I did it). The level of routing protocol knowledge required for BSCI was very shallow, in my opinion. I haven't done the BSCN, either (I did ACRC a few years ago), so I don't know how the BSCI compares to BSCN, but the BSCI required *far* less detailed knowledge than the ACRC did. I hope that the BSCN requires more routing knowledge than the BSCI, because if not, I reckon the CCNP is going towards a cornflakes cert (or maybe I just struck the easy BSCI questions). JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 30/05/2002 04:12 pm - Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/05/2002 01:28 pm Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] Is this part of a business decision process?: Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's like they pulled a few random topics from the CCIE (and CCNP) and made a cert out of it. I don't think many people are buying it. I agree, but that wouldn't make the certification invalid as such. Take CCNP for example. Since CCIE was around first, couldn't it be said that it looks like they took topics (routing, switch, remote access, troubleshooting) and made a cert out of it (CCNP). And that would be a (mostly) true statement. But anyone who has done CCNP and at least the CCIE written can testify that the depth of knowledge of the CCIE can't touch any single CCNP exam. I mean, CCIE written required you to know OSPF/BGP/EIGRP but nowhere (IMHO) near the detail as the CCNP Routing exam. Especially the switching. The CCIE written should challenge anyone's switching knowledge that has passed the BCMSN exam.. Having said that, I think (although I'm not personally pursuing it) that the CCIP, with it's focus on MCAST, QoS, and MPLS, is going to be a much more detailed exam track similar to the way CCNP was compared to CCIE. I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that required for CCNP/CCIE (except the Routing CCNP exam, which as pointed out, is virtually identical to the CCNP routing exam except for IS-IS). I don't think the little bit of Multicast learned in CCNP switching (which is more than required for CCIE written, IMHO) would be adequate to pass the MCAST exam. Etc etc. To summarize, I'm personally not going for CCIP, but I could see how employers in the right environment (i.e. using MPLS, Multicast, etc) might perfer someone with a deeper background in those topics as opposed to a CCNP or even a CCIE.. My 2 cents. Mike W. Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45441t=45166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
RE: written [7:45056]
Oh just for the record, ever hear of a bandwidth domain? If you have please let me know about it because I can't find it anywhere. I know I've encountered that expression somewhere, whether that was in the sybex CCDA books or one of the certificationzone papers I can't remember. Anyway, as always, Google is your friend: * Bandwidth domain: everything associated with one port on a bridge or a switch. * Ethernet switch bandwidth is also known as collision domain See http://teaching.ust.hk/~ismt319/ISMT319_2_16.ppt for the full course. HTH Bjxrn This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45442t=45056 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45443]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to get the CCIP, only one test away BSCI and I can't pass it because I simply don't know IS-IS. I wonder if the new BSCI book by Todd Lammle does a good job on ISIS? How difficult were the other two parts (QoS/multicasting and whatever specialty you chose) in comparison to the CCNP/CCDP certs (BSCN, BCMSN, BCRAN, CIT, CID)? I am getting it just to get it. I hope one day to get more money from it but I know this year I won't. Despite my dark predictions about when or if the CCIP will be included in the Cisco Academy curriculum, I'm a huge fan of CCIP and MPLS. According to the large service providers who made presentations at MPLScon in Washington last month, MPLS is already deployed and its use in core networks will continue to grow and accelerate. I think the same holds true for GMPLS in the high-speed optical core. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45443t=45443 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
I think, CCIP track is new but will generate more interest in the near future. If you noticed, newer CCIE topics are heavily weighted around material covered in CCIP, e.g. QOS, IS-IS, Multicast, MPLS etc. Obviously, it is a specialization track. CCIP security and/or CCIP MPLS would be an excellent credential. These days, everyone seem to know routing and switching. CCIP (or voice, content) cert(s) will be excellent addition to CCNP credential. -Keyur Shah- CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching) CISSP,ccsa,css1,scsa,scna,mct,mcse,cni,mcne Hello Computers Say Hello to Your Future! http://www.hellocomputers.com Toll-Free: 1.877.794.3556 -Original Message- From: Tom Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] Neal Rauhauser 402-301-9555 wrote: I'm back to reading groupstudy after an eighteen month abscence. My CCNP/CCDP certs which I finished 12/2000 and 1/2001 are working wonders career wise, but I am doing a lot of carrier type stuff now and I've lined up projects that pretty much cover the BSCI, MCAST+QoS, and MPLS tests for CCIP - no reason not to get it done if I am going to do the reading anyway. I am curious to know the stats - how many people have completed this cert? I'm sorry to see there are no responses in this thread. Maybe that's a sign we should give up on CCIP study groups for now and wait till there's more interest in it after, say, 2005 or even 2010. :-( -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45432t=45166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
telnet pass through on serial line auth prob [7:45440]
I've got a 3640 sitting in an RDC connected to a number of sun servers. I'm running TACACS on the 3640 to authenticate people who telnet directly to the 3640. I've configured telnet pass through so that one can telnet through the 3640 directly to a console port (telnet 3640-lo0 port). This allows one to connect directly to a console port on one of the servers. The problem is with how authentication is working when one tries the pass through. Right now, one needs to auth via TACAcs before they actually get the console prompt. I'd like to prevent the 3640 from being involved in any authentication when one does this pass through (and thus rely on the server passwd for auth). How can I config these ports to not require a TAC authentication? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45440t=45440 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridging over FR subinterfaces [7:45336]
Add the bridge to the subinterface: Dave Mohannad Khuffash wrote: Hello MADMAN, The config simplely is : LAN interface interface FastEthernet0/1 ip address 172.31.0.1 255.255.0.0 duplex auto speed auto bridge-group 1 Main Interface interface Serial2/0:0 no ip address encapsulation frame-relay ip mroute-cache frame-relay lmi-type ansi bridge-group 1 Suninterface interface Serial2/0:0.1 point-to-point bandwidth 2048 ip address 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.252 ip mroute-cache no arp frame-relay frame-relay interface-dlci 19 bridge-group 1 Hope that it can help ?. -- Mohannad N. Khuffash Network Administrator Palestine Telecom Tel : 00970-09-2390509 MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You ae correct in that you configure your bridge group on the physical and subinterface. You obviously have to configure bridging on some other interface like your LAN, send a copy of your config. dave Mohannad Khuffash wrote: Dear Group, I have a problem for implementing the bridging over the Frame Relay subinterfaces, Cisco say that you should only enable the bridging over the main interface and the subinterface, i have made that but the problem still present! Any one have any idea about that. Note: When i issue the show bridge group command it show me that every thing is ok , and that the subinterfaces are in forwarding state. -- Mohannad N. Khuffash Network Administrator Palestine Telecom Tel : 00970-09-2390509 -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45444t=45336 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
nrf, you and Peter both make good points on what is advertized on the job sites may not tell the whole Juniper job story. The supply may well be low enough that there are jobs to be found. Still I would think that there would be some jobs advertized. Even a search on Dice for just Juniper did not turn up much. A few jobs for a C++ person with Juniper skills and a few low level type jobs was all. It really does not matter for most of us as there is no way to get that cert unless you work on Juniper equipment at work. Building your own Juniper lab at home is not realistic. By the way Juniper is looking like they will come in with sales in the $540m range down almost 40% from last year and most analysts are saying carrier spending will not pick up until the second half of 2002. From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261] Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:26:55 -0400 Inline Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Peter I have been following and trading Juniper stock for years. In the beginning everyone loved it because it was so focused - just high end routers. Two things came together in 2000 to help them grow sales 6x over 1999 one was the massive build out of the telcos and the other was the fact that they had a year lead on cisco for delivering 192 interfaces. In 2001 the telco's started cutting back and juniper sales growth went to up 32 %, but all of it came in the first half. Since mid year last year sales have been dropping qtr over qtr. The biggest reason is the same reason the analysts used to love it - focused only on the high end telco market. Well the telco's are in a world of trouble. They are so deep in dept that most will never climb out. Global xing bit the dust and it looks like wcom may follow. Quest is in deep trouble too. Believe it or not the only hope for a recovery in the next year is that these big guys go chapter 11 and then reorg. All the investors get screwed but their debt goes away and they may have some money to invest again. All of the major telcos cut capex for the rest of this year and next in their first quarter report. Juniper's also has to deal with cisco now as they are going after that same market and have taken share away in the last year. This will be especially a problem in markets outside the us where cisco already has a presence and juniper does not. The last two purchases by Juniper say the reconize the problem as they are trying to broaden their product line. But they paid too much for Unishere and it will be dilutive this year. The bottom line is that the big telcos are in real trouble and there is still a lot of competition and excess capacity out there. Their capex spending is going to be the last thing to recover and along with it Juniper. Another good indication is in the job market. Go to dice.com or hotjobs and do a search on jncie and ccie and see what you get for both. Oh God, my fingers just got so itchy when you said that. I wrote an entire book about this on this newsgroup just a few months ago (and elicited a firestorm of protest for which I and many other people here still bear the scars). So if you want the entire spiel, go look for some of my old posts in the archives. And I think just heard a big whoosh from the guys who I sparred with in the past are now all collectively slapping shaking their heads because they realize I'm just about to get into it again. Fear not guys, I'll try to make it short as I possibly can, for both your and my sanity. Basically job value has to do with basic economics and how it pertains to the supply and demand of labor. True, there are many less Juniper jobs. So there is less demand On the other hand, there are many many less Juniper-trained people. You can't just look at demand. There's no such thing as a law of demand. There is only the law of supply and demand. You must factor in both supply and demand before you can say whether something is more or less valuable than something else. And from the evidence I've seen, it looks like while the demand for Juniper skills is obviously lower than the demand for Cisco skills, the supply of Juniper skills is proportionately even lower, such that the overall value of Juniper skills is higher. Or I'll put it to you another way. Doctors make more money than cashiers. But why? Clearly there is a greater demand for cashiers than doctors. You mentioned going to public places like the Internet or the newspapers and looking for mentions of JNCIE or CCIE. OK, I can do that for doctors and cashiers and I think we'll both agree that I'm going to find many many more mentions for cashiers than for doctors. Makes sense too. How many times do you seriously injure yourself vs. how many times do you buy something in the store? Right. So since there is clearly more demand for cashiers
Free CCIE Practice Lab From CyscoExpert [7:45445]
For those of you not yet on the CCIE Lab list, CyscoExpert has released a free practice scenario as a sample of what our program has to offer. Although practice labs are no substitute for instructor lead training, every little bit helps. The lab is located at http://www.cyscoexpert.com, just follow the link at the bottom of our page. For those of you not yet familiar with CyscoExpert, we are a group of CCIE's that provide Cisco training and consulting. CyscoExpert has put together what we believe to be the best CCIE program available in the market today. Our lab scenarios and individualized instruction will assist you not only to pass your CCIE lab examination, but will also give you the necessary expertise that is required for you to keep up with the fast growing IT workforce. Although there are many schools that provide CCIE training and lab scenarios in the market today, we are confident that no one else in the world provides a program whose quality comes close to our own. We offer a customized CCIE training program that focuses on the quality of instruction, not the quantity of students that we can push through the program. Our CCIE certified instructors offer one on one instruction, guidance, and mentoring to our students. It is this personalized attention that makes our program such a success. I will be supporting this lab through the address [EMAIL PROTECTED], however I'd prefer that people post questions and discussion to either the RS lab group, or the commercial group, so everyone can benefit from the discussion. I'm not going to release my versions of the configs just yet, as I know how easy it is to check the answer when you run into a problem. This should keep things more interesting for a bit, and hopefully generate some stimulating discussion. Enjoy. Thanks, Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 Director of Design and Implementation [EMAIL PROTECTED] CyscoExpert Corporation Internetwork Consulting Training http://www.cyscoexpert.com Voice: 847.674.3392 Fax: 847.674.2625 P.S. 25% discount off of CCIE Bootcamp classes for GroupStudy members. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45445t=45445 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CSS (ArrowPoint Communications) MIB [7:45446]
Hi all, I am looking for ArrowPoint Communications Enterprise MIB, that supports Cisco's CSSs. Does any one have a link to it - really hard to find. Thanks, Yaron Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45446t=45446 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CSS (ArrowPoint Communications) MIB [7:45446]
These MIBs are actually on the CSS itself. FTP to the box, navigate to the mibs directory and then download whichever files you're looking for. You'll need the apent.mib and then the svcext.mib if you want to monitor services. HTH, John Yaron E 5/30/02 9:54:44 AM Hi all, I am looking for ArrowPoint Communications Enterprise MIB, that supports Cisco's CSSs. Does any one have a link to it - really hard to find. Thanks, Yaron Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45448t=45446 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
slightly OT: Routing Beta exam [7:45449]
Has anyone who took the routing beta heard the results?? I took the routing Beta and we are well within the 8-12 week window, actually closer to the end... Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45449t=45449 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
OK agreed that the CCNP has been made from topics pulled from CCIE. But when the CCNP already exists, to make a similar track to it, that is what doesn't make sense. I don't think the CCIP was necessary; it's only my humble opinion. What about switching? The knowledge that someone gained from the CCNA is good enough for CCIP candidates? If the CCIP and CCIE were in place already, I would have said the same thing about CCNP. But it's the other way around. What's next, take the switching exam from the CCNP, add a few electives and make it another cert? How about troubleshooting CIT? And make it something else? Why not add IS-IS to the CCNA and call it CCIPA. I guess it is apparent that I am not a big fan of this mix-n-match stuff. Especially when it overlaps with an exam that is exactly the same material. This is just my opinion of the CCIP, I realize for some it may be valuable for one reason or another. Comparing the CCIE to the CCNP, yes I agree that the CCIE is harder then the CCNP in both the routing and switching part. There are just more topics in the CCNP and CCNA, and not covered in as much detail as the CCIE is. I wasn't really arguing that. -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's like they pulled a few random topics from the CCIE (and CCNP) and made a cert out of it. I don't think many people are buying it. I agree, but that wouldn't make the certification invalid as such. Take CCNP for example. Since CCIE was around first, couldn't it be said that it looks like they took topics (routing, switch, remote access, troubleshooting) and made a cert out of it (CCNP). And that would be a (mostly) true statement. But anyone who has done CCNP and at least the CCIE written can testify that the depth of knowledge of the CCIE can't touch any single CCNP exam. I mean, CCIE written required you to know OSPF/BGP/EIGRP but nowhere (IMHO) near the detail as the CCNP Routing exam. Especially the switching. The CCIE written should challenge anyone's switching knowledge that has passed the BCMSN exam.. Having said that, I think (although I'm not personally pursuing it) that the CCIP, with it's focus on MCAST, QoS, and MPLS, is going to be a much more detailed exam track similar to the way CCNP was compared to CCIE. I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that required for CCNP/CCIE (except the Routing CCNP exam, which as pointed out, is virtually identical to the CCNP routing exam except for IS-IS). I don't think the little bit of Multicast learned in CCNP switching (which is more than required for CCIE written, IMHO) would be adequate to pass the MCAST exam. Etc etc. To summarize, I'm personally not going for CCIP, but I could see how employers in the right environment (i.e. using MPLS, Multicast, etc) might perfer someone with a deeper background in those topics as opposed to a CCNP or even a CCIE.. My 2 cents. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45451t=45166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why copy tftp run retain some old config ??? [7:45323]
Do a copy tftp start and then reload. Hi.. Dear all, Why you I copy the config from the tftp server to replace the old config on the router (copy tftp run) or copy the config from startup to running (copy star run). But the resulting config is not exactly the same as the config that I copy run. It retain some of the old parameter or config. For eg. When I copy start run My start-up config is ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 50.100.45.4 My running config is ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 50.100.45.3 After I copy start run, the resulting config become ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 50.100.45.4 ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 50.100.45.3 And when I copy the config from tftp server to my run config (copy tftp run) My tftp config interface Ethernet0 description To Office Ethernet ip address 80.8.200.113 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ip accounting output-packets ip route-cache same-interface My running config interface Ethernet0 description To Office Ethernet ip address 70.8.200.113 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ip accounting output-packets ip route-cache same-interface traffic-shape group 105 5000 7000 7000 1000 But the resulting config become as below interface Ethernet0 description To Office Ethernet ip address 80.8.200.113 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ip accounting output-packets ip route-cache same-interface traffic-shape group 105 5000 7000 7000 1000 WHY??? Why it is not the same as the config that I copy from but the combination. How to solve this?? CT == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45452t=45323 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP Welcome Aboard kit? [7:45454]
Last week I passed the CIT test to get my CCNP. Will I get another welcome aboard kit like I did my CCNA that has miscellaneous Cisco cert stuff in it? Thanks, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45454t=45454 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45453]
Brian Zeitz wrote: when the CCNP already exists, to make a similar track to it, that is what doesn't make sense. I don't think the CCIP was necessary; it's only my humble opinion. What about switching? The knowledge that someone gained from the CCNA is good enough for CCIP candidates? There are several issues here. First there's the issue of whether the CCIP was needed at all, and second the issue of how Cisco might implement the new CCIP certifications and training courses. My complaint, actually more of a lament, refers to the second question of execution. Regarding the first issue, I think the CCIP is or could be very different from the CCNP. The difference is huge. It's the difference between service provider networks and enterprise networks. The overlap of topics is unfortunate but unavoidable. As core and access networks begin to deploy more MPLS, QoS and PPVPNs, the need for a CCIP will become more obvious. Whether Cisco meets that need in a timely fashion by introducing it into the Cisco Academy curriculum is another question. I can only hope they will, sooner rather than later. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45453t=45453 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
passing scores for CCNP [7:45455]
can anyone tell me what the minimum passing scores are for the 4 required tests for the CCNP (routing, switching, remote access, and troubleshooting) ? thanks for any info. vince [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45455t=45455 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
Someone on this list mentioned a while ago that we should have the CCCP (Cisco Certified Certification Professional) to go along with all the other Cisco certifications that Cisco has! :-) Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] OK agreed that the CCNP has been made from topics pulled from CCIE. But when the CCNP already exists, to make a similar track to it, that is what doesn't make sense. I don't think the CCIP was necessary; it's only my humble opinion. What about switching? The knowledge that someone gained from the CCNA is good enough for CCIP candidates? If the CCIP and CCIE were in place already, I would have said the same thing about CCNP. But it's the other way around. What's next, take the switching exam from the CCNP, add a few electives and make it another cert? How about troubleshooting CIT? And make it something else? Why not add IS-IS to the CCNA and call it CCIPA. I guess it is apparent that I am not a big fan of this mix-n-match stuff. Especially when it overlaps with an exam that is exactly the same material. This is just my opinion of the CCIP, I realize for some it may be valuable for one reason or another. Comparing the CCIE to the CCNP, yes I agree that the CCIE is harder then the CCNP in both the routing and switching part. There are just more topics in the CCNP and CCNA, and not covered in as much detail as the CCIE is. I wasn't really arguing that. -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's like they pulled a few random topics from the CCIE (and CCNP) and made a cert out of it. I don't think many people are buying it. I agree, but that wouldn't make the certification invalid as such. Take CCNP for example. Since CCIE was around first, couldn't it be said that it looks like they took topics (routing, switch, remote access, troubleshooting) and made a cert out of it (CCNP). And that would be a (mostly) true statement. But anyone who has done CCNP and at least the CCIE written can testify that the depth of knowledge of the CCIE can't touch any single CCNP exam. I mean, CCIE written required you to know OSPF/BGP/EIGRP but nowhere (IMHO) near the detail as the CCNP Routing exam. Especially the switching. The CCIE written should challenge anyone's switching knowledge that has passed the BCMSN exam.. Having said that, I think (although I'm not personally pursuing it) that the CCIP, with it's focus on MCAST, QoS, and MPLS, is going to be a much more detailed exam track similar to the way CCNP was compared to CCIE. I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that required for CCNP/CCIE (except the Routing CCNP exam, which as pointed out, is virtually identical to the CCNP routing exam except for IS-IS). I don't think the little bit of Multicast learned in CCNP switching (which is more than required for CCIE written, IMHO) would be adequate to pass the MCAST exam. Etc etc. To summarize, I'm personally not going for CCIP, but I could see how employers in the right environment (i.e. using MPLS, Multicast, etc) might perfer someone with a deeper background in those topics as opposed to a CCNP or even a CCIE.. My 2 cents. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45456t=45166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recommended books for BCRAN [7:45407]
though the hands on practice at the labs did help on the questin with the commands. If you can get some hands on practice. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45459t=45407 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: passing scores for CCNP [7:45455]
All 4 passing scores are right around 700. Give or take 10. Mine were 690 for Routing, 699 for Switching, 703 for Remote Access, and 692 for Support. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45460t=45455 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Case of the Clicking Router [7:45457]
This is really strange. I just put some new flash memory into a brand new 2620 router. I then used tftpdnld from ROMMON to download a new IOS image. After the download the router erases flash memory. While erasing flash, a click emanates from the router near the flash stick at each sector. I tried this again in a different brand new router with more brand new flash and I got the same result. I then put the Cisco flash stick back in and it still clicks. I've never heard a router -- or anything else, for that matter -- click during flash operations. Have any of you experienced this? Should I be worried? I'm about to ship these two routers out to two new branches and I'd hate for them to die prematurely. Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45457t=45457 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Welcome Aboard kit? [7:45454]
You sure will...the glorious Certificate and a new laminated card... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45461t=45454 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
My point is simply that it is extremely difficult to extrapolate overall value from demand alone. I see this mistake being made time and time again, and not just with Juniper/Cisco, but also with Windows vs. UNIX, or things like that. Besides, I would also add 2 points to the equation: #1) The problem with looking just a job boards to gauge demand. The simple fact is, most jobs are not publicly advertised. Surely you've seen the studies from CNN that have shown that 90% of all available jobs are never publicly posted, and are obtained just by knowing the right people and employee referrals.Companies seem to prefer things this way because it is a better quality-check than soliciting a mass of resumes (i.e., an employee is unlikely to refer somebody that he knows to be bad because if that guy is hired and flames out, that employee would be professionally embarrassed). How this impacts something like Juniper (or UNIX or whatever) is that it seems that the high-end jobs are more likely to not be publicly posted because it seems that the more high-end and important the job (and on average, a Juniper job tends to be higher-end than the average Cisco job), the more quality-checks you need. I believe this is why you hardly ever see public postings for positions like CEO, even though I know that many companies are looking for one. #2) The warping of small numbers. This is somewhat related to point #1. What this is all about is that when the numbers of available candidates are small, it is often inefficient to publicly post a job for them, rather a company who wants one should just individually contact each available candidate, depending on how many there really are. For example, let's say your local NFL team loses its quarterback in mid-season to a season-ending injury and decides they need a replacement to make a playoff run. Are they going to advertise it on Monster? No, of course not. The head coach knows full well that there are only a handful of available guys in the world who could reasonably step in and lead their team, and the coach probably already knows them by name and how to contact them. There's no need to publicly advertise a job when you already know who the prospective candidates are. This might apply to the JNCIE. I don't know if it does, but it might. Consider this. There are only 65 of them. Within a day or two of investigating, I could probably find out all their names and contact info, because there really aren't that many of them. So would I really need to publicly advertise my job? Maybe, maybe not. I think only when the numbers get large do the benefits of publicly posting become apparent. Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... nrf, you and Peter both make good points on what is advertized on the job sites may not tell the whole Juniper job story. The supply may well be low enough that there are jobs to be found. Still I would think that there would be some jobs advertized. Even a search on Dice for just Juniper did not turn up much. A few jobs for a C++ person with Juniper skills and a few low level type jobs was all. It really does not matter for most of us as there is no way to get that cert unless you work on Juniper equipment at work. Building your own Juniper lab at home is not realistic. By the way Juniper is looking like they will come in with sales in the $540m range down almost 40% from last year and most analysts are saying carrier spending will not pick up until the second half of 2002. From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261] Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:26:55 -0400 Inline Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Peter I have been following and trading Juniper stock for years. In the beginning everyone loved it because it was so focused - just high end routers. Two things came together in 2000 to help them grow sales 6x over 1999 one was the massive build out of the telcos and the other was the fact that they had a year lead on cisco for delivering 192 interfaces. In 2001 the telco's started cutting back and juniper sales growth went to up 32 %, but all of it came in the first half. Since mid year last year sales have been dropping qtr over qtr. The biggest reason is the same reason the analysts used to love it - focused only on the high end telco market. Well the telco's are in a world of trouble. They are so deep in dept that most will never climb out. Global xing bit the dust and it looks like wcom may follow. Quest is in deep trouble too. Believe it or not the only hope for a recovery in the next year is that these big guys go chapter 11 and then reorg. All the investors get screwed but their debt goes away and they may have some money to invest again. All of the major telcos cut capex for the rest of this year and
RE: passing scores for CCNP [7:45455]
I think they vary a bit for each specific question set on the same exam but as far as BCRAN 703 was the passign score fo rmy test . Hersh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45458t=45455 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The Case of the Clicking Router [7:45457]
Hi John, We just recently upgraded all of our 2620, 2621 and 2650 routers and every one of them and the clicks when the flash was erasing. I did this with and without cisco's and third party flash and each time I have heard the clicks. I haven't done any research on it (don't have the time) but could it be from the electrical charge being created to erase the flash? These routers have been in production for about 3 months now and I haven't heard a peep out of them. They have been working like champs. HTH, Scott -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Case of the Clicking Router [7:45457] This is really strange. I just put some new flash memory into a brand new 2620 router. I then used tftpdnld from ROMMON to download a new IOS image. After the download the router erases flash memory. While erasing flash, a click emanates from the router near the flash stick at each sector. I tried this again in a different brand new router with more brand new flash and I got the same result. I then put the Cisco flash stick back in and it still clicks. I've never heard a router -- or anything else, for that matter -- click during flash operations. Have any of you experienced this? Should I be worried? I'm about to ship these two routers out to two new branches and I'd hate for them to die prematurely. Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45462t=45457 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The Case of the Clicking Router [7:45457]
Cool, thanks. I'd done this a bunch of 2620s in the past and I'd never heard this before. Weird. John Scott Nawalaniec 5/30/02 2:43:36 PM Hi John, We just recently upgraded all of our 2620, 2621 and 2650 routers and every one of them and the clicks when the flash was erasing. I did this with and without cisco's and third party flash and each time I have heard the clicks. I haven't done any research on it (don't have the time) but could it be from the electrical charge being created to erase the flash? These routers have been in production for about 3 months now and I haven't heard a peep out of them. They have been working like champs. HTH, Scott -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Case of the Clicking Router [7:45457] This is really strange. I just put some new flash memory into a brand new 2620 router. I then used tftpdnld from ROMMON to download a new IOS image. After the download the router erases flash memory. While erasing flash, a click emanates from the router near the flash stick at each sector. I tried this again in a different brand new router with more brand new flash and I got the same result. I then put the Cisco flash stick back in and it still clicks. I've never heard a router -- or anything else, for that matter -- click during flash operations. Have any of you experienced this? Should I be worried? I'm about to ship these two routers out to two new branches and I'd hate for them to die prematurely. Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45463t=45457 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question on Pix and lossing internet conectivity [7:45465]
I recently upgraded my pix to version 6.2 and lately I noticed that some users behind the firewall Complain that they cant access the internet , or as we should say outside the firewall Now whats is interesting is that this problem can be fixed by issuing the following command Clear xlate Which as I understand clear all translations. Now I have a sufficient pool of outside ip's assign to all my users to be exact 5 class C's. Does anyone here know why this is happening? A particular command can be enter whitin the pix to fix this clearly this is a issue that has happen since I installed 6.2 And the only reason for that is because im planning to use N2h2 on the pix. Any comments would hep Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45465t=45465 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boson and MCNS [7:45466]
Hi Guys I am gonna purchase boson tests for MCNS exam, so can anybody tell me out of 3 boson tests, which one is the best? Shoaib __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45466t=45466 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed the written yesterday! [7:45467]
All, I passed the CCIE written with a score of 84%. It's not the 90+ I wanted, but, in lieu of failing the exam, I'll take it :-). True to Cisco's exams, it had some difficult-ly worded questions that really put two things to the test: 1. your knowledge of the topic, and 2. your ability to extrapolate what they are looking for out of a group of answers that at first glance all appear to be wrong. All in all, I have no gripes about the test, and I look forward to adding tons more hands-on time in my lab to my diet of what has been mostly book study over the last 2 or 3 months. Thanks to all of the regular, accurate posters to the list for sharing your knowledge and helpful hints. I'm sure there will be many more questions to come in the next six months, as I'm scheduling my Lab for December. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer ATT Government Solutions, Inc. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45467t=45467 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lab format question [7:45468]
All, I have a question that might possibly be un-answerable due to the NDA, as I have never really seen it discussed, but I'd like to post it here, and if it is a topic that is open for discussion, I'd really like to hear some feedback. I'll assume silence to mean I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you. Here goes What is the structure of the lab exam? By this, I mean do they hand you a book at the beginning of the day and say make the network look like this and do that and let you bang away until you are finished configuring all of the testable technologies (or run out of time, heaven forbid), or do they break it into sections, where they say configure the network to do these certain things, then you stop, they grade you up to that point, then you 'write erase | reload' and move on to the next set of taskings (or something in between). Also, how many devices are in the racks? Are there so many devices that you actually have enough interfaces to configure routing, IRB, CRB, RSRB, DLSw+, Frame, HDLC, PPP, ISDN, etc., etc., all at the same time and not run out of interfaces? I guess what I'm trying to do is remove some of the fog that shrouds the top of the certification mountain so I can find the best path to the top. Any feedback from people who have taken the lab exam, and feel within their bounds talking about it, please respond. Thanks. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer ATT Government Solutions, Inc. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45468t=45468 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed the written yesterday! [7:45467]
Congrats!!! Kelly Cobean wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I passed the CCIE written with a score of 84%. It's not the 90+ I wanted, but, in lieu of failing the exam, I'll take it :-). True to Cisco's exams, it had some difficult-ly worded questions that really put two things to the test: 1. your knowledge of the topic, and 2. your ability to extrapolate what they are looking for out of a group of answers that at first glance all appear to be wrong. All in all, I have no gripes about the test, and I look forward to adding tons more hands-on time in my lab to my diet of what has been mostly book study over the last 2 or 3 months. Thanks to all of the regular, accurate posters to the list for sharing your knowledge and helpful hints. I'm sure there will be many more questions to come in the next six months, as I'm scheduling my Lab for December. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer ATT Government Solutions, Inc. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45469t=45467 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Comparing the CCIE to the CCNP, yes I agree that the CCIE is harder then the CCNP in both the routing and switching part. There are just more topics in the CCNP and CCNA, and not covered in as much detail as the CCIE is. I wasn't really arguing that. Actually, I was claiming that the CCNP routing/switching exams were more difficult than CCIE written was.. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45470t=45166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question on Pix and lossing internet conectivity [7:45465]
i had the same problem; it has nothing to do with 5 c classes of ip or in my case 1 IP on the outside for X number of internal users. Either something is wrong with the pix 6.2 Code, or it has very aggressive timeouts. Some of the problems you will see are short time outs on downloads, AIM dying without explanation, and people not getting patted when going to the internet. this fixed my problem... (the timeout XLATE, didnt not fix it, but its there because i was not cool with the default of 3HRS) timeout xlate 6:00:00 timeout conn 12:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 sip 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00 even if you have the default 0:00 (never timeout) it still does timeout like in one minute.. also nats dont work (really patting) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45471t=45465 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473]
Hi I have setup a Pix 515 so that it authenticates and accepts a remote user via dial-up, allowing them full access to the corporate LAN. The only problem that I have is that the remote user cannot connect via cable modem/adsl etc the connection is initialised, the remote security gateway is contacted and the error message is Remote peer is no longer responding ... Has anyone ever come accross any issues similiar to this ??? Any help will be greatly welcomed ... Sometimes ... I can get connected via cable modem/adsl etc ... but cannot browse, ping or get access to any corporate site or applications ??? I can get several people simultaneously dialed-up and vpn'd onto the corporate LAN .. and I am using Cisco VPN Client 3.0.6 .. I have also tried with client 3.5 with the same results ... Kind regards .. Paul .. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45473t=45473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free CCIE Practice Lab From CyscoExpert [7:45445]
I just wanted to mention how funny I thought the Sample Lab was. It's not the lab itself, but the comment that the equipment requirement will be 'light'. It's amazing to me that you consider 7 routers to be a 'light' requirement as many with home labs don't have more than 5 or 6 since you really shouldn't need any more than that to practice for the Practical Lab anyway. (along with the additional ISDN simulator or switch etc...) Good Luck! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45474t=45445 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473]
Is the cable/dsl modem also doing any sort of firewalling or NAT'ting? If so, open holes for IPSec and/or turn off firewall functionality on the cable/adsl modem and/or create a static translation for the workstation on the inside. - Original Message - From: Paul To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473] Hi I have setup a Pix 515 so that it authenticates and accepts a remote user via dial-up, allowing them full access to the corporate LAN. The only problem that I have is that the remote user cannot connect via cable modem/adsl etc the connection is initialised, the remote security gateway is contacted and the error message is Remote peer is no longer responding ... Has anyone ever come accross any issues similiar to this ??? Any help will be greatly welcomed ... Sometimes ... I can get connected via cable modem/adsl etc ... but cannot browse, ping or get access to any corporate site or applications ??? I can get several people simultaneously dialed-up and vpn'd onto the corporate LAN .. and I am using Cisco VPN Client 3.0.6 .. I have also tried with client 3.5 with the same results ... Kind regards .. Paul .. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45476t=45473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
I am trying to configure an IPX network number under a subinterface. The router takes the command, but it does not show up in the config. There are plenty of other subinterfaces on the same physical interface that have IP and IPX network numbers config'd on them. What am I doing wrong? Somebody mentioned something about an IPX database, much like the VLAN database on a 2924 CAT?!?!?!? -TIA Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45477t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet terminal [7:45397]
Here is a link for teraterm http://www.packetattack.com/downloads.html . . wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... what is a popular (and free) telnet terminal for all of you using? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45478t=45397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Is it giving you an error when you try to config the IPX network number? It should (if it's not going to add it to the config), but sometimes IOS doesn't act like it should. ;-) The reason to use a subinterface in the IPX world is to support multiple Ethernet encapsulation types. You have to use a different network number and a different encapsulation on the subinterface than you do on the main interface or any other subinterfaces. My router gives me a nice error if I do something wrong: Check this out. Notice that first I tried to use a network number already in use on a different interface. Then I tired to use an encapsulation that was the same as the encap on the main interface. (The default, novell-ether). I needed to use a unique network number and an encap not already in use on this interface (or subinterfaces). Albany#show ipx int e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is up IPX address is 100..0c05.3e80, NOVELL-ETHER [up] line-up ETC Albany#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Albany(config)#int e0.1 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 200 %IPX network 200 already exists on interface Ethernet1 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 300 %IPX network 300 already exists on interface TokenRing0 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 400 %Encapsulation already in use by IPX network 100, on interface Ethernet0 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 400 encap arpa Albany(config-subif)#end Albany# %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console Albany# Albany# Albany#show run Building configuration... Current configuration: ! ! hostname Albany ! ipx routing .0c05.3e80 ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 10.10.0.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 100 no mop enabled ! interface Ethernet0.1 ipx network 400 encapsulation ARPA ! interface Ethernet1 ip address 172.16.50.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 200 ! interface Serial0 no ip address shutdown no fair-queue ! interface Serial1 no ip address shutdown ! interface TokenRing1 no ip address shutdown ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 300 ring-speed 16 ETC Albany# So, not an exact answer, but some hints hopefully!? Priscilla At 08:12 PM 5/30/02, Gene Volpe wrote: I am trying to configure an IPX network number under a subinterface. The router takes the command, but it does not show up in the config. There are plenty of other subinterfaces on the same physical interface that have IP and IPX network numbers config'd on them. What am I doing wrong? Somebody mentioned something about an IPX database, much like the VLAN database on a 2924 CAT?!?!?!? -TIA Gene Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45479t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Thanx for getting back to me so fast Priscilla. I guess I should have been more specific. These are serial subinterfaces. I have about 100 other subinterfaces config'd on the same physical interface. Here is what I mean: NYCB128_HubFrame#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. NYCB128_HubFrame(config)#int s5/0.102 NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx network AB4B NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx typ NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx type-20-propagation NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#^Z NYCB128_HubFrame# NYCB128_HubFrame#s ru ! interface Serial5/0.102 point-to-point description 384K connection to NYCB022ELMONT bandwidth 384 ip address 192.168.152.1 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1500 ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 5 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 152 class VoIP-384k ! interface Serial5/0.103 point-to-point description 384K connection to NYCB038EMEADOW bandwidth 384 ip address 192.168.168.1 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1500 ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 5 no ip mroute-cache ipx network ABFA ipx type-20-propagation frame-relay interface-dlci 103 class Data-384K And so on and so on..See what I mean? It lets me config the interface, but doesn't show up in the config. -Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45480t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Lab format question [7:45468]
You have 8 hours to do what the lab ask you to configure, you may get enough or not enough information to count on, sometime you have to make you own choice to make it work. After 8 hours, the proctor will ask you to leave and check web site two days later for your score. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45481t=45468 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
You're making assumptions, Priscilla. Gene never said it was an Ethernet sub-interface. It could be a frame-relay sub-interface ;-) But I agree, if it's not going to add the IPX network number, it would be nice if it gave an error. Gene, can we see your configs? And what you're trying to add? And you're not running a really early IOS version are you? IPX used to do all sorts of odd things (come to that, it still does in recent versions, usually exactly when you don't want it to...) JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 31/05/2002 12:13 pm - Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/05/2002 11:16 am Please respond to Priscilla Oppenheimer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477] Is this part of a business decision process?: Is it giving you an error when you try to config the IPX network number? It should (if it's not going to add it to the config), but sometimes IOS doesn't act like it should. ;-) The reason to use a subinterface in the IPX world is to support multiple Ethernet encapsulation types. You have to use a different network number and a different encapsulation on the subinterface than you do on the main interface or any other subinterfaces. My router gives me a nice error if I do something wrong: Check this out. Notice that first I tried to use a network number already in use on a different interface. Then I tired to use an encapsulation that was the same as the encap on the main interface. (The default, novell-ether). I needed to use a unique network number and an encap not already in use on this interface (or subinterfaces). Albany#show ipx int e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is up IPX address is 100..0c05.3e80, NOVELL-ETHER [up] line-up ETC Albany#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Albany(config)#int e0.1 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 200 %IPX network 200 already exists on interface Ethernet1 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 300 %IPX network 300 already exists on interface TokenRing0 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 400 %Encapsulation already in use by IPX network 100, on interface Ethernet0 Albany(config-subif)#ipx network 400 encap arpa Albany(config-subif)#end Albany# %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console Albany# Albany# Albany#show run Building configuration... Current configuration: ! ! hostname Albany ! ipx routing .0c05.3e80 ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 10.10.0.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 100 no mop enabled ! interface Ethernet0.1 ipx network 400 encapsulation ARPA ! interface Ethernet1 ip address 172.16.50.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 200 ! interface Serial0 no ip address shutdown no fair-queue ! interface Serial1 no ip address shutdown ! interface TokenRing1 no ip address shutdown ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 300 ring-speed 16 ETC Albany# So, not an exact answer, but some hints hopefully!? Priscilla At 08:12 PM 5/30/02, Gene Volpe wrote: I am trying to configure an IPX network number under a subinterface. The router takes the command, but it does not show up in the config. There are plenty of other subinterfaces on the same physical interface that have IP and IPX network numbers config'd on them. What am I doing wrong? Somebody mentioned something about an IPX database, much like the VLAN database on a 2924 CAT?!?!?!? -TIA Gene Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45482t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Jenny- Version of code is 12.2(8). -Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45483t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Very odd. Gene, what happens if you do show ipx interface? Does it think that IPX is configured on the sub-interface? What I'm trying to find out is whether IPX is actually configured on the interface but not showing up in the config, or whether it's really not configured. You've got about a hundred sub-ints like these configured on one physical interface?? I notice that this is a serial int, not an HSSI (assuming you haven't edited the text), and your bandwidth is labelled as 384 kbps on each sub-int - seems like some pretty severe oversubscription happening there. But I can't see why that should cause your IPX issues. I don't think I'm coming up with any useful fixes to your problem! JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 31/05/2002 12:25 pm - Gene Volpe Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/05/2002 11:30 am Please respond to Gene Volpe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477] Is this part of a business decision process?: Thanx for getting back to me so fast Priscilla. I guess I should have been more specific. These are serial subinterfaces. I have about 100 other subinterfaces config'd on the same physical interface. Here is what I mean: NYCB128_HubFrame#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. NYCB128_HubFrame(config)#int s5/0.102 NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx network AB4B NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx typ NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx type-20-propagation NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#^Z NYCB128_HubFrame# NYCB128_HubFrame#s ru ! interface Serial5/0.102 point-to-point description 384K connection to NYCB022ELMONT bandwidth 384 ip address 192.168.152.1 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1500 ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 5 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 152 class VoIP-384k ! interface Serial5/0.103 point-to-point description 384K connection to NYCB038EMEADOW bandwidth 384 ip address 192.168.168.1 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1500 ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 5 no ip mroute-cache ipx network ABFA ipx type-20-propagation frame-relay interface-dlci 103 class Data-384K And so on and so on..See what I mean? It lets me config the interface, but doesn't show up in the config. -Gene Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45484t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Hi All, I just started preparing for the CCIE Lab. I have already read Caslow, TCP/IP Vol 1 (by Jeff Doyle), Internet Routing Arch (by Halabi), as well as LAN Switching (by Clark). I'm just wondering what books I should get in additional to these to prepare for the lab?? Please help... Thanks! Hunt Lee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45486t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Here is what the interfaces look like: NYCB128_HubFrame#s ipx int s5/0.102 NYCB128_HubFrame# NYCB128_HubFrame#s ipx int brief InterfaceIPX Network Encapsulation Status IPX State FastEthernet1/0 32169903NOVELL-ETHER up [up] Serial3/0unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial3/1unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial3/2unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial3/3unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial4/0unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial4/1unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial4/2unassigned not config'd administratively down n/a Serial4/3unassigned not config'd administratively down n/a Serial5/0unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial5/0.101ABD5FRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.102unassigned not config'd up n/a Serial5/0.103ABFAFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.104ABFBFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.105ABEBFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.106ABFCFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.107ABF3FRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.108ABCCFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.109AB1DFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.110AB1FFRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.111ABE7FRAME-RELAY up [up] Serial5/0.112AB1EFRAME-RELAY up [up] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45485t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
That's awfully strange. Could AB4B already be in use?? Maybe show ipx route would have some clues. Are you using IPX RIP, EIGRP, NLSP? (NLSP requires an internal network number. Could it already be set to AB4B?) Have you reported this to cisco? Maybe it's a bug. Maybe it's related to you having so many subinterfaces that you ran into a memory overrun issue of some sort. MAYBE somebody else has seen this? ;-) Help us out here, folks. Thanks. Priscilla At 09:30 PM 5/30/02, Gene Volpe wrote: Thanx for getting back to me so fast Priscilla. I guess I should have been more specific. These are serial subinterfaces. I have about 100 other subinterfaces config'd on the same physical interface. Here is what I mean: NYCB128_HubFrame#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. NYCB128_HubFrame(config)#int s5/0.102 NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx network AB4B NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx typ NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#ipx type-20-propagation NYCB128_HubFram(config-subif)#^Z NYCB128_HubFrame# NYCB128_HubFrame#s ru ! interface Serial5/0.102 point-to-point description 384K connection to NYCB022ELMONT bandwidth 384 ip address 192.168.152.1 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1500 ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 5 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 152 class VoIP-384k ! interface Serial5/0.103 point-to-point description 384K connection to NYCB038EMEADOW bandwidth 384 ip address 192.168.168.1 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1500 ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 5 no ip mroute-cache ipx network ABFA ipx type-20-propagation frame-relay interface-dlci 103 class Data-384K And so on and so on..See what I mean? It lets me config the interface, but doesn't show up in the config. -Gene Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45487t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
teaching CCNA [7:45489]
I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro class before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have some questions, however: Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know that many Token Ring NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for multicast by now. Thanks! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45489t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Just to answer. No, AB4B is not in use. NLSP is not in use. I do not see anything in the 'show ipx route' output. I am pretty sure that it is not a bug, because I know someone who has done this before. They had to enter an IPX database of sorts and they were able to make the changes there. The command to get to the database may even be hidden. As far as the mem goes: NYCB128_HubFrame#s mem HeadTotal(b) Used(b) Free(b) Processor 62DE2FE0 45520080020184576 435016224 I/OE0033554432 336473630189696 -Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45488t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FO licence for PIX 515 [7:45491]
5/30/2002 10:45pm Thursday Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45491t=45491 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Something very basic !....but not getting it right ?? [7:45490]
Hi, Got a doubt regarding, how router selects a particular route from the routing table. I have a route to 192.168.16.192/26 through 192.168.15.130 and 192.168.15.134. If a packet comes with the destination address as 192.168.16.1, what will happen ??. I think, since I have subnet zero possible, 192.168.16.1 will fall into 192.168.16.0/26 network and will use the above mentioned route. But it is using the default route ??? Any idea ??..or is that I am missing something very basic ?? logs are attached. Appreciate your comments Joseph R1#sh ip route Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter area * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR P - periodic downloaded static route Gateway of last resort is 192.168.0.66 to network 0.0.0.0 192.168.15.0/30 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 192.168.15.132 is directly connected, Serial3/0 C 192.168.15.128 is directly connected, Serial2/0 O E2 20.0.0.0/8 [110/30] via 192.168.0.66, 02:35:56, Ethernet1/0 192.168.0.0/26 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 192.168.0.64 is directly connected, Ethernet1/0 C 192.168.0.128 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 192.168.16.0/26 is subnetted, 1 subnets D 192.168.16.192 [90/2195456] via 192.168.15.130, 00:04:05, Serial2/0 [90/2195456] via 192.168.15.134, 00:04:05, Serial3/0 O192.168.1.0/24 [110/20] via 192.168.0.130, 02:35:56, Ethernet0/0 [110/20] via 192.168.0.66, 02:35:56, Ethernet1/0 S* 0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.0.66 R1# R1# R1# R1#deb ip pa IP packet debugging is on R1# R1#ping 192.168.16.1 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.16.1, timeout is 2 seconds: U *May 30 07:34:15.475: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66.U *May 30 07:34:17.515: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66.U Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) R1# *May 30 07:34:19.555: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66 R1# R1# R1# R1#sh run | inc sub ip subnet-zero R1# R1# R1#sh run | inc cl clock timezone IST 5 30 ip classless R1# R1# Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45490t=45490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Something very basic !....but not getting it right ?? [7:45492]
At 11:38 PM 5/30/02, shiju joseph wrote: Hi, Got a doubt regarding, how router selects a particular route from the routing table. I have a route to 192.168.16.192/26 through 192.168.15.130 and 192.168.15.134. If a packet comes with the destination address as 192.168.16.1, what will happen ??. I think, since I have subnet zero possible, 192.168.16.1 will fall into 192.168.16.0/26 The final octet for the destination 192.168.16.1 is 0001. The first two bits (high-order bits) are part of the prefix if you use /26. Your router doesn't know how to get to 192.168.16.0/26. There's no route where the final octet is . The ip subnet zero command would allow you to locally configure an interface into this subnet, but you haven't. e0 and e1 are in 192.168.16.64 (0100) and 192.168.16.128 (1000) respectively. The 192.168.16.192 route has a final octet of 1100. So that's a different subnet than the destination also. Priscilla network and will use the above mentioned route. But it is using the default route ??? Any idea ??..or is that I am missing something very basic ?? logs are attached. Appreciate your comments Joseph R1#sh ip route Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter area * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR P - periodic downloaded static route Gateway of last resort is 192.168.0.66 to network 0.0.0.0 192.168.15.0/30 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 192.168.15.132 is directly connected, Serial3/0 C 192.168.15.128 is directly connected, Serial2/0 O E2 20.0.0.0/8 [110/30] via 192.168.0.66, 02:35:56, Ethernet1/0 192.168.0.0/26 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 192.168.0.64 is directly connected, Ethernet1/0 C 192.168.0.128 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 192.168.16.0/26 is subnetted, 1 subnets D 192.168.16.192 [90/2195456] via 192.168.15.130, 00:04:05, Serial2/0 [90/2195456] via 192.168.15.134, 00:04:05, Serial3/0 O192.168.1.0/24 [110/20] via 192.168.0.130, 02:35:56, Ethernet0/0 [110/20] via 192.168.0.66, 02:35:56, Ethernet1/0 S* 0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.0.66 R1# R1# R1# R1#deb ip pa IP packet debugging is on R1# R1#ping 192.168.16.1 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.16.1, timeout is 2 seconds: U *May 30 07:34:15.475: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66.U *May 30 07:34:17.515: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66.U Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) R1# *May 30 07:34:19.555: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66 R1# R1# R1# R1#sh run | inc sub ip subnet-zero R1# R1# R1#sh run | inc cl clock timezone IST 5 30 ip classless R1# R1# Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45492t=45492 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Please confirm (conf#5c214c1a2179c93c3a80627ad4edc7b1) [7:45493]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please confirm (conf#5c214c1a2179c93c3a80627ad4edc7b1) Hi, You have tried to post to GroupStudy.com's Professional mailing list. Because the server does not recognize you as a confirmed poster, you will be required to authenticate that you are using a valid e-mail address and are not a spammer. By confirming this e-mail you certify that you are not sending Unsolicited Bulk Email (UBE). PLEASE DO NOT SEND YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE AGAIN! BY CONFIRMING THIS EMAIL YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE (WHICH IS NOW QUEUED IN THE SERVER) WILL BE POSTED. By confirming this e-mail you also certify the following: 1. The message does NOT break Cisco's Non-Disclosure requirements. 2. The message is NOT designed to advertise a commercial product. 3. You understand all postings become property of GroupStudy.com 4. You have searched the archives prior to posting. 5. The message is NOT inflammatory. 6. The message is NOT a test message. To confirm, simply reply to this message. No editing is necessary. Once confirmed, you will be able to post without additional confirmations. Welcome to GroupStudy.com! --ORIGINAL MESSAGE- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 21 13:00:41 2002 Received: (from news@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10753 GroupStudy Mailer; Tue, 21 May 2002 13:00:41 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Path: not-for-mail From: nettable_walker Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Subject: council cable --- Cisco to Nortel/Bay Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:01:22 -0500 Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups Lines: 19 Message-ID: Reply-To: nettable_walker NNTP-Posting-Host: 12-248-131-235.client.attbi.com X-Trace: groupstudy.com 1022000441 10752 12.248.131.235 (21 May 2002 17:00:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 May 2002 17:00:41 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. 5/21/200210:45am Tuesday Professionals, I have a Cisco terminal server controlling 15 Cisco routers/switches/PIXs I would like to add support for 4 Nortel routers. The Nortel council cable is DB9 female to BD 9 female strait thru. My plan is to plug plastic terminal adapters [ DB 9 to RJ 45 ] into the Nortel devices. Can anyone give me an idea for the pin out on this ? Thanks, Richard // Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45493t=45493 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
Hi Priscilla, I used that book amoung others for the exam that I took recently. I did not run into any switch configuration command questions on the test...only switching theory..but that does not mean someone else might not get a question like that. I guess it's my opinion that studying switch configs on paper is sufficient for the CCNA exam. Although Odom goes into more detail on many topics than is necessary for the exam...I'm glad I studied the topics because it is helping me see the bigger picture as I study for the BSCN exam. In regards to the router sim...it does allow abbr. I used copy run start, Ctrl+Z and en. However, the simulation is rather buggy. I had trouble telnetting to the routers in the simulation. After trying various things for about 15 minutes it finally worked. Also...it did not save my configuration completely so I had to re-enter and do a copy run start a couple of times. I'm not sure about the Token Ring thing. Hope that helps. Dain Deutschman CNA, MCP, CCNA Data Communications Manager New Star Sales and Service, Inc. 800.261.0475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro class before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have some questions, however: Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know that many Token Ring NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for multicast by now. Thanks! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45494t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
For BGP, a much more practical book IMHO is Bill Parkhurst's Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook. If covers BGP through IOS 12.0 something. You will want to augment your study with newer IOS release notes as found on CCO. Great book. Can do many of the exercises with just 3 routers, and just about all of them with 4 or 5 I'm told that Parkhurst has a similar book covering practical OSPF configuration, but I have not checked into it. For DLSw, bridging, and IPX, you will want to take a look at Tan Nam-Kee's book Configuring Cisco routers for bridging, DLSw+, and Desktop Protocols. As a companion, and maybe as a slightly different way of looking at things, try Terry Slattery and Bill Burton's book Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks. The labs in there are not too bad for quick study. A lot of folks I know are enthusiastic about CCIE Practical Studies by Karl Solie. I've got it, read some of it, liked what I've read, and intend to spend some time with it starting Real Soon Now. In retrospect, Kennedy Clark's book Cisco LAN Switching was helpful for sorting out issues with the 3920 switch configuration. I did not have time to review other parts of it before my last attempt, but I liked what I did read. Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing where to find things is very helpful. Best wishes Chuck Next Try December 2 Hunt Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All, I just started preparing for the CCIE Lab. I have already read Caslow, TCP/IP Vol 1 (by Jeff Doyle), Internet Routing Arch (by Halabi), as well as LAN Switching (by Clark). I'm just wondering what books I should get in additional to these to prepare for the lab?? Please help... Thanks! Hunt Lee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45495t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Something very basic !....but not getting it right ?? [7:45496]
the is a quad zero route configured, so if there is a packet with a destination address of 192.168.16.1 then it will be routed using the default of 192.168.0.66, noted as the gateway of last resort as per the output below. HTH Chuck Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 11:38 PM 5/30/02, shiju joseph wrote: Hi, Got a doubt regarding, how router selects a particular route from the routing table. I have a route to 192.168.16.192/26 through 192.168.15.130 and 192.168.15.134. If a packet comes with the destination address as 192.168.16.1, what will happen ??. I think, since I have subnet zero possible, 192.168.16.1 will fall into 192.168.16.0/26 The final octet for the destination 192.168.16.1 is 0001. The first two bits (high-order bits) are part of the prefix if you use /26. Your router doesn't know how to get to 192.168.16.0/26. There's no route where the final octet is . The ip subnet zero command would allow you to locally configure an interface into this subnet, but you haven't. e0 and e1 are in 192.168.16.64 (0100) and 192.168.16.128 (1000) respectively. The 192.168.16.192 route has a final octet of 1100. So that's a different subnet than the destination also. Priscilla network and will use the above mentioned route. But it is using the default route ??? Any idea ??..or is that I am missing something very basic ?? logs are attached. Appreciate your comments Joseph R1#sh ip route Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter area * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR P - periodic downloaded static route Gateway of last resort is 192.168.0.66 to network 0.0.0.0 192.168.15.0/30 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 192.168.15.132 is directly connected, Serial3/0 C 192.168.15.128 is directly connected, Serial2/0 O E2 20.0.0.0/8 [110/30] via 192.168.0.66, 02:35:56, Ethernet1/0 192.168.0.0/26 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 192.168.0.64 is directly connected, Ethernet1/0 C 192.168.0.128 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 192.168.16.0/26 is subnetted, 1 subnets D 192.168.16.192 [90/2195456] via 192.168.15.130, 00:04:05, Serial2/0 [90/2195456] via 192.168.15.134, 00:04:05, Serial3/0 O192.168.1.0/24 [110/20] via 192.168.0.130, 02:35:56, Ethernet0/0 [110/20] via 192.168.0.66, 02:35:56, Ethernet1/0 S* 0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.0.66 R1# R1# R1# R1#deb ip pa IP packet debugging is on R1# R1#ping 192.168.16.1 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.16.1, timeout is 2 seconds: U *May 30 07:34:15.475: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66.U *May 30 07:34:17.515: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66.U Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) R1# *May 30 07:34:19.555: ICMP: dst (192.168.0.65) host unreachable rcv from 192.168.0.66 R1# R1# R1# R1#sh run | inc sub ip subnet-zero R1# R1# R1#sh run | inc cl clock timezone IST 5 30 ip classless R1# R1# Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45496t=45496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet pass through on serial line auth prob [7:45440]
Try this: ! aaa authentication login PASSTHRU none ! line 1 16 login authentication PASSTHRU ! Works for me! Andrew bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I've got a 3640 sitting in an RDC connected to a number of sun servers. I'm running TACACS on the 3640 to authenticate people who telnet directly to the 3640. I've configured telnet pass through so that one can telnet through the 3640 directly to a console port (telnet 3640-lo0 port). This allows one to connect directly to a console port on one of the servers. The problem is with how authentication is working when one tries the pass through. Right now, one needs to auth via TACAcs before they actually get the console prompt. I'd like to prevent the 3640 from being involved in any authentication when one does this pass through (and thus rely on the server passwd for auth). How can I config these ports to not require a TAC authentication? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45464t=45440 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
failover only licence on PIX [7:45475]
5/30/2002 6:35pm Thursday Professionals, I have seen some deals on ebay for PIX 515's with FO license. I also do a lot of work on 2 sets of 525's Is the FO license upgradeable to a regular license ? Is the FO something in the chip set has anyone tried to modify it ? Thanks, Richard // Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45475t=45475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
On your point one I agree with you. Especially in a market like we have today companies with positions where they need someone at a jncie level they may not need to look too far to fill their positions. On your second point where would you get a list of the jncie's with names and addresses? Juniper for sure is not going to give them out. Most of them work for Juniper and they are not going to make it any easier then it is to steal them. Juniper is probably like cisco was in the early days. The best way to get a good engineer is to steal them from Juniper. As far a knowing someone that has always been a factor. Peter if you are reading this, when Juniper gets ready to open up a Latin America office I'm your man :) From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261] Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:39 -0400 My point is simply that it is extremely difficult to extrapolate overall value from demand alone. I see this mistake being made time and time again, and not just with Juniper/Cisco, but also with Windows vs. UNIX, or things like that. Besides, I would also add 2 points to the equation: #1) The problem with looking just a job boards to gauge demand. The simple fact is, most jobs are not publicly advertised. Surely you've seen the studies from CNN that have shown that 90% of all available jobs are never publicly posted, and are obtained just by knowing the right people and employee referrals.Companies seem to prefer things this way because it is a better quality-check than soliciting a mass of resumes (i.e., an employee is unlikely to refer somebody that he knows to be bad because if that guy is hired and flames out, that employee would be professionally embarrassed). How this impacts something like Juniper (or UNIX or whatever) is that it seems that the high-end jobs are more likely to not be publicly posted because it seems that the more high-end and important the job (and on average, a Juniper job tends to be higher-end than the average Cisco job), the more quality-checks you need. I believe this is why you hardly ever see public postings for positions like CEO, even though I know that many companies are looking for one. #2) The warping of small numbers. This is somewhat related to point #1. What this is all about is that when the numbers of available candidates are small, it is often inefficient to publicly post a job for them, rather a company who wants one should just individually contact each available candidate, depending on how many there really are. For example, let's say your local NFL team loses its quarterback in mid-season to a season-ending injury and decides they need a replacement to make a playoff run. Are they going to advertise it on Monster? No, of course not. The head coach knows full well that there are only a handful of available guys in the world who could reasonably step in and lead their team, and the coach probably already knows them by name and how to contact them. There's no need to publicly advertise a job when you already know who the prospective candidates are. This might apply to the JNCIE. I don't know if it does, but it might. Consider this. There are only 65 of them. Within a day or two of investigating, I could probably find out all their names and contact info, because there really aren't that many of them. So would I really need to publicly advertise my job? Maybe, maybe not. I think only when the numbers get large do the benefits of publicly posting become apparent. Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... nrf, you and Peter both make good points on what is advertized on the job sites may not tell the whole Juniper job story. The supply may well be low enough that there are jobs to be found. Still I would think that there would be some jobs advertized. Even a search on Dice for just Juniper did not turn up much. A few jobs for a C++ person with Juniper skills and a few low level type jobs was all. It really does not matter for most of us as there is no way to get that cert unless you work on Juniper equipment at work. Building your own Juniper lab at home is not realistic. By the way Juniper is looking like they will come in with sales in the $540m range down almost 40% from last year and most analysts are saying carrier spending will not pick up until the second half of 2002. From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261] Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:26:55 -0400 Inline Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Peter I have been following and trading Juniper stock for years. In the beginning everyone loved it because it was so focused - just high end routers. Two things came together in 2000 to help them grow sales 6x over 1999 one was the massive build
Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro class before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have some questions, however: Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know that many Token Ring NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for multicast by now. CL: what token ring vendors? ;- Thanks! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45497t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45498t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MCNS and boson [7:45499]
Can anybody tell me which boson exam is the best out of 3 test exams available regarding MCNS??? I am gonna purchase any one of the 3 and i m confused, can anybody help? Shoaib __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45499t=45499 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Please confirm (conf#5c214c1a2179c93c3a80627ad4edc7b1) [7:45500]
Anyone knows what these messages are about? I've seeing them quite frequently over the last little while. Thanks. == RB == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard L. Pickard Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please confirm (conf#5c214c1a2179c93c3a80627ad4edc7b1) [7:45493] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please confirm (conf#5c214c1a2179c93c3a80627ad4edc7b1) Hi, You have tried to post to GroupStudy.com's Professional mailing list. Because the server does not recognize you as a confirmed poster, you will be required to authenticate that you are using a valid e-mail address and are not a spammer. By confirming this e-mail you certify that you are not sending Unsolicited Bulk Email (UBE). PLEASE DO NOT SEND YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE AGAIN! BY CONFIRMING THIS EMAIL YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE (WHICH IS NOW QUEUED IN THE SERVER) WILL BE POSTED. By confirming this e-mail you also certify the following: 1. The message does NOT break Cisco's Non-Disclosure requirements. 2. The message is NOT designed to advertise a commercial product. 3. You understand all postings become property of GroupStudy.com 4. You have searched the archives prior to posting. 5. The message is NOT inflammatory. 6. The message is NOT a test message. To confirm, simply reply to this message. No editing is necessary. Once confirmed, you will be able to post without additional confirmations. Welcome to GroupStudy.com! --ORIGINAL MESSAGE- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 21 13:00:41 2002 Received: (from news@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10753 GroupStudy Mailer; Tue, 21 May 2002 13:00:41 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Path: not-for-mail From: nettable_walker Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Subject: council cable --- Cisco to Nortel/Bay Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:01:22 -0500 Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups Lines: 19 Message-ID: Reply-To: nettable_walker NNTP-Posting-Host: 12-248-131-235.client.attbi.com X-Trace: groupstudy.com 1022000441 10752 12.248.131.235 (21 May 2002 17:00:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 May 2002 17:00:41 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. 5/21/200210:45am Tuesday Professionals, I have a Cisco terminal server controlling 15 Cisco routers/switches/PIXs I would like to add support for 4 Nortel routers. The Nortel council cable is DB9 female to BD 9 female strait thru. My plan is to plug plastic terminal adapters [ DB 9 to RJ 45 ] into the Nortel devices. Can anyone give me an idea for the pin out on this ? Thanks, Richard // Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45500t=45500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
I think that's a pretty pessimistic outlook for cert... wow... if a book coming out convinces you all of a sudden your cert will be paper, . wow... I can't explain it, but that comment really bums me out... I can't believe all of this talk about paper this and paper that.. geez, a book comes out for a cert and already someone (that has the damn cert) is already calling it paper... I guess I've always been under the impression that the PERSON that was shoddily certified (studied to pass a test instead of learning the material) was a paper whatever i.e. someone that passed the CCNA just by sheer memorization after barrelling thru practice exams was a paper CCNA as opposed to someone who actually learned all of the information. Seriously, it sounds to me like your concern isn't paper anything, it's that you won't be the only one with CSS1/CCIP or whatever... I have to ask Did you really think that you'd be the 'only' one with that certification forever? I guess the reason your comment bums me out is because you're implying that just because there are study materials for a book (especially one from Sybex with the Lammle name on it) that it will be so common that you can get a CSS! with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Do you really think that one book will have that much of an impact? I appreciate you feelings, and I didn't intend for this post to be an attack on you I guess I'm just stunned that your outlook for the value of a cert could be affected by just one book so much. Mike W. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45501t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing where to find things is very helpful. Chuck, Quick question.. I realize that knowing commands and being quick at configuration a requirement in the lab. A CCIE friend of mine suggested that I learn to find virtually everything instantly on Cisco's Documentation CD. Having said that, (and I'm asking because your post implied that you had taken it before), without breaking NDA (of course), is there really time to look up anything on the CD? I realize it's impossible to memorize every single thing.. especially commands, but it seems to me that referencing the CD could take even more time even if you know where to look. Am I way off base here? Thanks for you input! Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45502t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MCNS and boson [7:45499]
You really don't need the Boson for the MCNS. Just get the book and get Kaeo and read them until you can't read any more and then just pass the test. Oh yeah, get a PIX and configure it! Oh about a VPN concentrator 3060? Radius and TACACS+ interest you? Oh I'm having a bad day today B. :-( Sad Theo Shoaib Waqar Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/31/2002 01:50 PM Please respond to Shoaib Waqar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:MCNS and boson [7:45499] Can anybody tell me which boson exam is the best out of 3 test exams available regarding MCNS??? I am gonna purchase any one of the 3 and i m confused, can anybody help? Shoaib __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45503t=45499 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
Yeah I do think it will be paper because with the Boson, Lammle, and other vendor books along with Cisco Press suddenly every one will just get it and it will be harder to distinguish who really knows it or not. I know people will get it yes but I don't want it to be a paper cert like some people have CCNP/DPs and don't know anything about OSPF or VLANS. Just gets me sad. Part of the reason I got this cert last year was because there weren't any boson or study aides yet. It was a better test that way. Of course I was already doing security so that is besides the point. Finally I thought I could have a more unique Cisco cert without killing myself ie CCIE. I'm not the only one with it. Here in Japan, my boss was first and my current co-worker was second. Perhaps I was number 10 or something. (I was the 5th CISSP here). The problem is that one of these guys doesn't know how to do things like ACLs! I got to help him out with it and he can't configure Cisco IDS. Just makes me sad. At least I get paid more... :-) What can I say? I don't like it when people can just read a book and pass the test and they don't know conf t. You defination of a paper cert is the same as mine. No offensive taken. I just think that if you want to do CSS1 you should be using PIXs, VPNs, and IDSs just like when I got the CCNP I was on 7200/3600/2600 6509/5xxx/2948s daily. Theo Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/31/2002 02:03 PM Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] I think that's a pretty pessimistic outlook for cert... wow... if a book coming out convinces you all of a sudden your cert will be paper, . wow... I can't explain it, but that comment really bums me out... I can't believe all of this talk about paper this and paper that.. geez, a book comes out for a cert and already someone (that has the damn cert) is already calling it paper... I guess I've always been under the impression that the PERSON that was shoddily certified (studied to pass a test instead of learning the material) was a paper whatever i.e. someone that passed the CCNA just by sheer memorization after barrelling thru practice exams was a paper CCNA as opposed to someone who actually learned all of the information. Seriously, it sounds to me like your concern isn't paper anything, it's that you won't be the only one with CSS1/CCIP or whatever... I have to ask Did you really think that you'd be the 'only' one with that certification forever? I guess the reason your comment bums me out is because you're implying that just because there are study materials for a book (especially one from Sybex with the Lammle name on it) that it will be so common that you can get a CSS! with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Do you really think that one book will have that much of an impact? I appreciate you feelings, and I didn't intend for this post to be an attack on you I guess I'm just stunned that your outlook for the value of a cert could be affected by just one book so much. Mike W. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45505t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Hmm. If you're running 12.2(8) (actually, I assume you mean 12.2(8)T? I don't think 12.2(8) exists), then you've got more confidence than me that it's not a bug. I think I've run out of ideas, but I'd be interested to know what you find out, because I'm likely to have to do IPX on that IOS version soon so if there's something odd about configuring it I'd like to know. JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 31/05/2002 03:46 pm - Gene Volpe Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/05/2002 12:55 pm Please respond to Gene Volpe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just to answer. No, AB4B is not in use. NLSP is not in use. I do not see anything in the 'show ipx route' output. I am pretty sure that it is not a bug, because I know someone who has done this before. They had to enter an IPX database of sorts and they were able to make the changes there. The command to get to the database may even be hidden. As far as the mem goes: NYCB128_HubFrame#s mem HeadTotal(b) Used(b) Free(b) Processor 62DE2FE0 45520080020184576 435016224 I/OE0033554432 336473630189696 -Gene Important: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45506t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
I have been teaching the CCNA classes for 3 years and I have always used the Sybex book which has a corresponding Router Simulator product. I also took the new 607 exam when it was released and provided an article on my findings. :) http://www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAMcid=152 Good luck. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: teaching CCNA [7:45489] I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro class before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have some questions, however: Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know that many Token Ring NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for multicast by now. Thanks! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45507t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
