7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-07 Thread sisco

i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a rate-limit
command,but it doesn't work!

interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
 description DS3
 bandwidth 45000
 ip address  255.255.255.252
 ip access-group 153 in
 ip access-group 111 out
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit exceed-action
drop
 pvc 19/555
  encapsulation aal5snap

thnks!




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redundant power feed for 3548 XL [7:54988]

2002-10-07 Thread Koen Zeilstra

Hi All,

The 3548XL has like the 2900 a DC input as well as a AC input. Has anyone
of you guys tried to connect both? The manuals says not to do it. If this
works you'll have a very cheap redundant power solution, of course Cisco
doesn't like it and will say it's impossible ;-)

Any experience connecting the AC to wall power and DC with a external
power supply?

grtz,

Koen

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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2282 (Out of the Office) [7:54989]

2002-10-07 Thread Daniel Cevallos

I will on vacation starting October 5 and will be returning to the office on
October 15, 2002.



Thanks,
Danny




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BSCI Passing Score [7:54990]

2002-10-07 Thread YASSER ALY

Dear All,  Anybody knows the passing score for BSCI ? Regards,Yasser



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Lan Inventory. [7:54991]

2002-10-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all, 

I want a software which audits the Lan  Hardware inventory for M$  **nix 
platforms. The software must be for Win platform only as it is for a non 
technical person who has to audit this at client places for taking up AMC. 
Anybody using this, guide me. 

Regards
Manjunath




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RE: redundant power feed for 3548 XL [7:54988]

2002-10-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Without going to much into it, if you connect both sources of power, you are
in fact supplying the switch with 2 sources of power simulataneously. There
is no power 'switching' (excuse the pun) mechanism on switch by itself.

You'll probably blow up the switch!

Manish

-Original Message-
From: Koen Zeilstra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 October 2002 09:59 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: redundant power feed for 3548 XL [7:54988]


Hi All,

The 3548XL has like the 2900 a DC input as well as a AC input. Has anyone of
you guys tried to connect both? The manuals says not to do it. If this works
you'll have a very cheap redundant power solution, of course Cisco doesn't
like it and will say it's impossible ;-)

Any experience connecting the AC to wall power and DC with a external power
supply?

grtz,

Koen

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Re: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

2002-10-07 Thread Stefan Razeshu

I think the response for this question is:

The access list:
access-list 101 permit tcp any eq www any
!-you need to detect your incoming www traffic.
!-You can use also your network address for the first any.
!-route map statement
route-map http_access permit 10
match ip address 101
set ip next-hop 10.10.10.141

The policy map statement need to be place on the interface that is facing
your network not to the interface near by the host 10.10.10.141.
Regards,
Stefan

PS. I think we need to help each other not to give life lessons.
It is a Cisco study list not the church.



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OT: Resources for Writing Proposals [7:54995]

2002-10-07 Thread Albert Lu

Hello Group,

Could anyone point me to any resources (ie. web, books) for writing
pre-sales/tendering documentation which might include such things as
proposed solutions, pricing, etc.

Thanks

Albert




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Re: 7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

what you have provided in your configuration appears to be correct.

do you have CEF turned on?

how do you know it's not working? do you have a lot of non ip traffic on
your network? ( rate limiting does not effect non ip traffic ) are you sure
you are pushing ip traffic through at a rate greater than 38 meg? what are
you doing to test?

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sisco  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a rate-limit
 command,but it doesn't work!

 interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
  description DS3
  bandwidth 45000
  ip address  255.255.255.252
  ip access-group 153 in
  ip access-group 111 out
  no ip unreachables
  no ip proxy-arp
  rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit
exceed-action
 drop
  pvc 19/555
   encapsulation aal5snap

 thnks!




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Re: Lan Inventory. [7:54991]

2002-10-07 Thread Johnny Routin

You're in the wrong group... Try a M$ group...

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 wrote in message
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 Hi all,

 I want a software which audits the Lan  Hardware inventory for M$  **nix
 platforms. The software must be for Win platform only as it is for a non
 technical person who has to audit this at client places for taking up AMC.
 Anybody using this, guide me.

 Regards
 Manjunath




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Inside Interface accepts DHCP lease...but it has a static [7:54998]

2002-10-07 Thread Dain Deutschman

Hi all,

I have a problem with a client on a dsl connection. Ethernet 0 and 1 both
have statically assigned IP addresses. I leave the customer site and 3 days
later they call and have no internet. I check the router config and E0 has
the wrong IP address. I check the Win2000 DHCP server and that address is
listed as leased to the router.

Any ideas why the router is allowing this to happen?

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IPSEC Accounting [7:54993]

2002-10-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Has anyone in this group tried doing IPSEC accounting yet?  We're
implementing
an MPLS solution for a client of ours and we need to be able to determine
how
long our IPSEC clients are connected.  Xauth is current being used.  Is
there
anyway we can extract accounting data for such sessions similar to the start-
stop accounting we get off from dial-up customers?

Best Regards,

Rex



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Re: 7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-07 Thread Schwantz

Why don't you use ATM's inherent policing attributes like vbr-nrt ?

Schwantz

Chuck's Long Road  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 what you have provided in your configuration appears to be correct.

 do you have CEF turned on?

 how do you know it's not working? do you have a lot of non ip traffic on
 your network? ( rate limiting does not effect non ip traffic ) are you
sure
 you are pushing ip traffic through at a rate greater than 38 meg? what are
 you doing to test?

 --




 sisco  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a rate-limit
  command,but it doesn't work!
 
  interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
   description DS3
   bandwidth 45000
   ip address  255.255.255.252
   ip access-group 153 in
   ip access-group 111 out
   no ip unreachables
   no ip proxy-arp
   rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit
 exceed-action
  drop
   pvc 19/555
encapsulation aal5snap
 
  thnks!




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QOS VoIP [7:55000]

2002-10-07 Thread Arni V. Skarphedinsson

I need to get some insights into designing and installing a IP Phone
network, with CISCO switches and routers, but IP phones from another vendor,

and I am looking for some courses that can help me desing and implement the
QOS features, I was thinking about the DQOS course,
any thoughts or suggestions.

best regards,
Arni


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E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Aser Anani

Hi there ,

does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco books , i am looking
for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I

Thanks




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Re: QOS VoIP [7:55000]

2002-10-07 Thread NetEng

I have the Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions Configuration Guide. I'll
be glad to email it to you if your interested. Other than that I have not
jumped into QoS (yet).

Collin

Arni V. Skarphedinsson  wrote in message
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 I need to get some insights into designing and installing a IP Phone
 network, with CISCO switches and routers, but IP phones from another
vendor,

 and I am looking for some courses that can help me desing and implement
the
 QOS features, I was thinking about the DQOS course,
 any thoughts or suggestions.

 best regards,
 Arni




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Re: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

2002-10-07 Thread Stefan Razeshu

Sorry..the access-list is not corect.
Should be:
 access-list 101 permit tcp any any eq 80
Regards
Stefan


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Re: 7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

Schwantz  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Why don't you use ATM's inherent policing attributes like vbr-nrt ?


CL: I'm asking because I don't know - for an ATM edge device, like the
router in question, can you configure various ATM characteristics like this
even if they do not match the ATM service type that your carrier has
provided on their ATM switch?





 Schwantz

 Chuck's Long Road  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  what you have provided in your configuration appears to be correct.
 
  do you have CEF turned on?
 
  how do you know it's not working? do you have a lot of non ip traffic on
  your network? ( rate limiting does not effect non ip traffic ) are you
 sure
  you are pushing ip traffic through at a rate greater than 38 meg? what
are
  you doing to test?
 
  --
 
 
 
 
  sisco  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a rate-limit
   command,but it doesn't work!
  
   interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
description DS3
bandwidth 45000
ip address  255.255.255.252
ip access-group 153 in
ip access-group 111 out
no ip unreachables
no ip proxy-arp
rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit
  exceed-action
   drop
pvc 19/555
 encapsulation aal5snap
  
   thnks!




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Re: 7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-07 Thread MADMAN

What do you mean inherent?  You still need to define the shaping
charateristics when using vbr-nrt, default is line rate and the public
ATM network will police.

  Dave

Schwantz wrote:
 
 Why don't you use ATM's inherent policing attributes like vbr-nrt ?
 
 Schwantz
 
 Chuck's Long Road  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  what you have provided in your configuration appears to be correct.
 
  do you have CEF turned on?
 
  how do you know it's not working? do you have a lot of non ip traffic on
  your network? ( rate limiting does not effect non ip traffic ) are you
 sure
  you are pushing ip traffic through at a rate greater than 38 meg? what
are
  you doing to test?
 
  --
 
 
 
 
  sisco  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a rate-limit
   command,but it doesn't work!
  
   interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
description DS3
bandwidth 45000
ip address  255.255.255.252
ip access-group 153 in
ip access-group 111 out
no ip unreachables
no ip proxy-arp
rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit
  exceed-action
   drop
pvc 19/555
 encapsulation aal5snap
  
   thnks!
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612-664-3367

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Re: Off topic - Cisco's jazzy web site [7:54966]

2002-10-07 Thread John Neiberger

Ugh...I just took a look.  Am I the only one who thinks this is horrid?
Perhaps I'm too used to the old layout but this seems to be much more
difficult to follow.  

Oh well, in a few months I'm sure it will be old-hat.

John

 Nigel Taylor  10/6/02 1:13:25 PM 
Hey Chuck,
Yep, I noticed this as well.  The greatest addition
to
the new site is the button/link(image) that read Go to the old Site.
After mastering where all the information is on CCO, it's going to
take
sometime to fimilarize myself with the new layout..

Nigel

- Original Message -
From: Chuck's Long Road 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:46 AM
Subject: Off topic - Cisco's jazzy web site [7:54966]


 Apparently the elves were busy last night. CCO has a new look.

 www.cisco.com 



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RE: Off topic - Cisco's jazzy web site [7:54966]

2002-10-07 Thread Daniel Cotts

I'm seeing more integration between the marketing materials and the
technical materials. As expected, the marketing seems to be prominent.
I'll keep an open mind as to its improved/not improved logic.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Ugh...I just took a look.  Am I the only one who thinks this 
 is horrid?
 Perhaps I'm too used to the old layout but this seems to be much more
 difficult to follow.  
 
 Oh well, in a few months I'm sure it will be old-hat.




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Flash Memory and DRAM [7:55009]

2002-10-07 Thread Vik Da mon

Hi, has anyone found any places for cheap flash memory for the 2500 4000
series routers. Also, can we use pc memory I mean DRAM in Routers.
Appreciate the help. Thanks


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RE: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

2002-10-07 Thread Harold Monroe

This is something I've been wondering about also. As I understand it when
you set ip next-hop it forces the packet to go out a particular interface.

How about if you want the destination address changed for a particular type
of traffic so HTTP traffic goes to an HTTP server and FTP to an FTP server.

For example, if you have only one Public IP Address and if HTTP comes in you
want its destination address changed to 192.168.1.10, if FTP change its
destination address to 192.168.1.20

-Original Message-
From:   Stefan Razeshu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, October 07, 2002 4:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

I think the response for this question is:

The access list:
access-list 101 permit tcp any eq www any
!-you need to detect your incoming www traffic.
!-You can use also your network address for the first any.
!-route map statement
route-map http_access permit 10
match ip address 101
set ip next-hop 10.10.10.141

The policy map statement need to be place on the interface
that is facing
your network not to the interface near by the host
10.10.10.141.
Regards,
Stefan

PS. I think we need to help each other not to give life
lessons.
It is a Cisco study list not the church.
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RE: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

2002-10-07 Thread Jim Brown

Port Address Translation.

-Original Message-
From: Harold Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]


This is something I've been wondering about also. As I understand it
when
you set ip next-hop it forces the packet to go out a particular
interface.

How about if you want the destination address changed for a particular
type
of traffic so HTTP traffic goes to an HTTP server and FTP to an FTP
server.

For example, if you have only one Public IP Address and if HTTP comes in
you
want its destination address changed to 192.168.1.10, if FTP change its
destination address to 192.168.1.20

-Original Message-
From:   Stefan Razeshu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, October 07, 2002 4:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Route-map question (urgent)
[7:54910]

I think the response for this question is:

The access list:
access-list 101 permit tcp any eq www any
!-you need to detect your incoming www traffic.
!-You can use also your network address for the first
any.
!-route map statement
route-map http_access permit 10
match ip address 101
set ip next-hop 10.10.10.141

The policy map statement need to be place on the
interface
that is facing
your network not to the interface near by the host
10.10.10.141.
Regards,
Stefan

PS. I think we need to help each other not to give life
lessons.
It is a Cisco study list not the church.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Resources for Writing Proposals [7:54995]

2002-10-07 Thread Matthew Poole

Try the DCN book
Albert Lu  wrote in message
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 Hello Group,

 Could anyone point me to any resources (ie. web, books) for writing
 pre-sales/tendering documentation which might include such things as
 proposed solutions, pricing, etc.

 Thanks

 Albert




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RE: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Aser Anani wrote:
 
 Hi there ,
 
 does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco books ,
 i am looking
 for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
 
 Thanks

Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab. 

Priscilla


 
 




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Tech Tips [7:55015]

2002-10-07 Thread Persio Pucci

Hey folks,

where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in the new Cisco
site? Did anybody find it already? :(

Regards,

Persio




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New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE
Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
Anyone
else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.



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RE: OT: Nanog Post: redistribute bgp considered harmfu [7:54961]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Nigel Taylor wrote:
 
 All,
This was a recent post on the Nanog list which I thought
 could get
 some interest on the list.  Basically, the poster is
 questioning the
 relevance or real world requirements/need for certain commands,
 in this case
 it's the redistribute bgp command.
 
 Here's the original post...
 
 Sean Donelan wrote:
 
  Should the Service Provider version of routing software
 include the
   redistribute bgp command?  Other than CCIE labs, I haven't
 seen a
   real-world use for redistributing the BGP route table into
 any IGP.
 
   If the command was removed (or included a Are your sure?
 question) what
   would the affect be on ISPs, other than improving reliability
 by
   stopping network engineers from fubaring a backbone?

Cisco engineering (IOS development especially) has never had the philosophy
that they should stop someone from fubaring their network, and they probably
won't change that. They've always given us enough rope to hang ourselves.
:-) Luckily they couple that with good documentation, field support, TAC,
and certification programs that (hopefully?) have some emphasis on when and
when not to use commands.

The more interesting question is the technical one. Is it true that there's
never any reason to redistrubte BGP routes into an IGP? That sounds
believable, but probably worth more discussion

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

 
 
 Thoughts!
 
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CAT 3550 for L2 [7:55017]

2002-10-07 Thread Naomi James

Hi, I am replacing my 3524 XL switches with the 3550's.  Can I use the 3550
EMI strikly as a L2 device or so I need to purchase the 3550 SMI.  What I
would like to do is purchase the 3550 EMI now to replace our Layer 2 CAT
3524 XL.  When we are ready to use the Layer 3 technology, it will already
be available to me.
 
 
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Computer Services and Information Technology
Savannah State University
912-356-2509

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$1000.00 a Day for the Practise Labs now?? What's up Cisco? [7:55021]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello, BTW: Looks like Cisc has  bumped up the fees for the CCIE Practice
Labs to $1000.00 per day!! I thought it was something like $250.00 a day
before. What's up with Cisco? Q: How much does it cost to use the CCIE
Practice Labs?

A: Contact the University CCIE Practice Labs for fees, refund and
scheduling policies. Cisco CCIE Lab facilities may be scheduled for a
cost of $1000 per day. Come'on Cisco.Are you kidding?? For that kind
of money, I would attempt the Lab once every month till I pass it?? Anyone
??



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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Why do you want PDF format?

Aser Anani wrote:
 
 nothing in PDF format
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  Hi there ,
 
  does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco books ,
  i am looking
  for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
 
  Thanks
 
 Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.
 
 Priscilla
 
 




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RE: Tech Tips [7:55015]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Persio Pucci wrote:
 
 Hey folks,
 
 where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in
 the new Cisco
 site? Did anybody find it already? :(

According to the Tools  Utilities page, Tech Tips have been folded into the
Product  Technology Support Pages here:

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/browse/index.pl

Also the Tech Notes are easily found now. Yeah! From the main page, click on
Technical Support and select Technology Support. There's a wealth of info
there.

__

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com
 
 Regards,
 
 Persio
 
 




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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Aser Anani

nothing in PDF format
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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Aser Anani wrote:

 Hi there ,

 does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco books ,
 i am looking
 for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I

 Thanks

Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.

Priscilla




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RE: Tech Tips [7:55026]

2002-10-07 Thread Dennis Laganiere

You should be able to access the old-style web pages at
http://www.cisco.com/cco.shtml

--- Dennis

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From: Persio Pucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tech Tips

Hey folks,

where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in the new Cisco
site? Did anybody find it already? :(

Regards,

Persio




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Re: OT: Nanog Post: redistribute bgp considered harmfu [7:55023]

2002-10-07 Thread Kent Yu

 The more interesting question is the technical one. Is it true that
there's
 never any reason to redistrubte BGP routes into an IGP? That sounds
 believable, but probably worth more discussion

The first thing comes to mind is MPLS L3VPN.

Thanks
--kent


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 www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
 www.priscilla.com

 
 
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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Aser Anani

yes
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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Why do you want PDF format?

Aser Anani wrote:

 nothing in PDF format
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  Hi there ,
 
  does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco books ,
  i am looking
  for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
 
  Thanks

 Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.

 Priscilla




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Re: CAT 3550 for L2 [7:55017]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

the answer is yes you can use the EMI image and still have strictly L2, but
why?

the 3550-12G's come with EMI standard

the 3550-12,24, and 48 boxes come with SMI unless you specify EMI. You can
always upgrade SMI to EMI later
with the appropriate license upgrade.

You could also save a buck or two by getting the 2950 line of switches. No
routing ever, and somewhat scaled down QoS capability. Depends on what you
want and need.

HTH
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 Hi, I am replacing my 3524 XL switches with the 3550's.  Can I use the
3550
 EMI strikly as a L2 device or so I need to purchase the 3550 SMI.  What I
 would like to do is purchase the 3550 EMI now to replace our Layer 2 CAT
 3524 XL.  When we are ready to use the Layer 3 technology, it will already
 be available to me.


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RE: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]

2002-10-07 Thread Clubb, Steven

Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask - let us know.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]


Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE
Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
Anyone
else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.



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Re: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

David j wrote:
 
 See inline..
 Chuck's Long Road wrote:
  
  as much of a rulemeister as I am, I still have to look at this
  from the user
  standpoint. Why are users throwing their own hubs onto the
  network? Is there
  a business case to be made? Is facilities too slow getting
  requested cable
  pulls done?
  
  what is the concern with a user plugging a hub in at the desk
  and then
  connected a couple of extra PC's? if the problem is one of
 dual
  homing by
  accident or otherwise, I can see the issue with spanning tree
  recalculations. But in a single home situation,  what do you
  see as the
  issues?
  
 
 I see one issue: collisions, if you have a switched network you
 don't want to deal with collisions that hubs normally produce.
 I have to recognize, though, that hubs sometimes are very
 convenient and I'm the first on using them.

Collisions are only a problem for the hubbed network that the user made for
him/her self. The switched network is isolated from the collisions (with the
exception of the one switch port that connects the user's hub).

I say, let 'em do it! What's the harm? Don't you have way more bandwidth
than you need anyway?? ;-) A lot of companies do. Reference the disussion of
Cisco stock. Nobody's buying, because, guess what, we don't need it!??

Tech support is an issue, though, of course, for example, the user that is
clueful enough to know he/she needs a hub but not clueful enough to select
the right cable (x-over versus s/t) and duplex mode. Well a hub should
defaul to half, but a lot of devices that are marketed as hubs are really
switches or bridges.

But could you say they aren't supported rather than out right disallowing
them? Is there a comprosmise somewhere??
___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

 
  when you say that politically, it's a mess what does that
  mean? high
  powered sales people throwing their weight around? management
  does not
  respect your input or concerns? something bad is happening,
 and
  it's rolling
  downhill?
 
 In some environments it's politically unacceptable, I know some
 hospitals in which you have to fill in a lot papers before
 being allowed to use a PC, so in that environments this could
 perfectly be part of the policy.
 
  I'm not questioning the wisdom or the necessity for doing what
  others have
  suggested. I'm just wondering why it is necessary for the
  network manager /
  network staff to unilaterally cut off user access.
  
  
  
  
  John Zaggat  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Thanks guys that's pretty good information, but do you think
  in your
  opinion
   is that good approach to deal with this problem. Do you see
  any caveats
  and
   are there any other ways this can be dealt with.
   Kevin Wigle  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
take a look into Port Security.
   
   
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_configuration
_guide_chapter09186a008007f2dd.html
   
In the event of a security violation, you can configure
 the
  port to go
   into
shutdown mode or restrictive mode. The shutdown mode
 option
  allows you
  to
specify whether the port is permanently disabled or
  disabled for only a
specified time. The default is for the port to shut down
  permanently.
  The
restrictive mode allows you to configure the port to
 remain
  enabled
  during
   a
security violation and drop only packets that are coming
 in
  from
  insecure
hosts.
   
Kevin Wigle
   
   
- Original Message -
From: John Zaggat
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]
   
   
 I am just trying to think of how to restrict Hubs from
  being used in
  the
 LAN. Politically it's a mess and despite a lot of
  discussions certain
people
 are able to add hubs at will where ever they want. So I
  was trying to
think
 of a way to stop that within the switch. Now normally
  these ports that
   the
 hubs are connected to show several mac addresses when I
  do show cam
which
 gives me an idea is there any way to restrict host ports
  to only
  accept
one
 mac-address. I don't want to hardcode the mac-address
  because that
  would
be
 too much a administrative burden. But if I could
 restrict
  the port to
accept
 just one mac-address then that will make these hubs
  useless. Well
   anyways
 let me know  if I am way off here but are there any
 other
  tricks in
  use
   by
 any of you guys. I'll appreciate any pointers.
 JZ
  
  
 
 




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Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

There is a bigger question, maybe even a mystery here.

I have heard that Cisco is experiencing a severe decline in the numbers of
people actually showing up for their Lab exams. A lot of employers (
including mine :- wrote in message
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 Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
 jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE
 Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
 set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
 the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
 anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
 not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
 I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
 Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
 Anyone
 else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.

 

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RE: Tech Tips [7:55030]

2002-10-07 Thread George Jiang

George
CCIE #9781

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:38 PM
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Hey folks,

where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in the new Cisco
site? Did anybody find it already? :(

Regards,

Persio




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Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

fracking html filter let me try again without the html marking.



Chuck's Long Road  wrote in message
news:...
 There is a bigger question, maybe even a mystery here.

 I have heard that Cisco is experiencing a severe decline in the numbers of
 people actually showing up for their Lab exams. A lot of employers (
 including mine :-O ) are no longer paying for any training or tests because
 of the poor economy. I have heard that Cisco has even been holding a
 lottery, the prize being a free lab test for people who work for Cisco
 partners, in order to encourage people to pay up and show up.

 Yet I haven't seen any spots opening up.

 Wonder what's going on? Wonder what is true?




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  Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
  jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the
CCIE
  Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
  set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
  the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
  anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
  not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
  I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
  Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
  Anyone
  else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.
 
  
 
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RE: Tech Tips [7:55026]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

How about:

http://www.cisco.com/public/technotes/tech_protocol.shtml





From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Tech Tips [7:55026]
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:07:02 GMT

You should be able to access the old-style web pages at
http://www.cisco.com/cco.shtml

--- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Persio Pucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tech Tips

Hey folks,

where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in the new 
Cisco
site? Did anybody find it already? :(

Regards,

Persio
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Re: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

 
 Erick B.  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Greg,
 
 Windows XP does this by default in some situations. 

Talk about giving the users enough rope to hang themselves! ;-) I guess
Microsoft does that as much as Cisco does.

One final comment on the idea of giving the users a low-end switch. The
comment also applies to the XP machine becoming a bridge. You will want to
have good control of which switch in your campus network becomes the root,
using the various Cisco featuers like root guard, etc.

This could make for a great troubleshooting exercise. Have a low-end user's
Windows XP machine become the root of a large campus network and see what
happens!?

Anyway, please keep us posted if you can, John. It will be informative for
us all to learn how you work this out, even if the major issues are L8 and
not the more technical lower layers. Thanks.

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com


 If
 you have a PC with a Ethernet NIC and firewire
 adapter, it will bridge the 2 interfaces together and
 create a logical L3 interface that the protocols are
 bound to all by default.
 
 --- Greg Reaume  wrote:
  John,
 
  If WindowsXP is bridging two NICs it actually runs
  spanning-tree. It is a
  very nice feature for L1 redundancy. Though in your
  scenario I don't really
  see why they think that's necessary. I'm planning to
  use this functionality
  in the upcoming Windows.NET server to multihome all
  my servers, as long as
  it supports the concept of a loopback or virtual
  interface for L3
  connectivity, to two different switches to protect
  against 48 servers
  failing because a switch burns out. I just wish MS
  had an add-on for
  Windows2K Server with this functionality so I don't
  have to wait.
 
  Check out these links:
 
 

http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/pro/techinfo/administration/homenetbridge
  /default.asp
 
 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/columns/c
  ableguy/cg0102.asp
 
 
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong but, from what I gather in
  your previous postings,
  loops seem to be your main concern. You say that it
  may very well be
  justified that these users need up to 5 PCs in their
  cube, or that you don't
  really want to get into that fight (whichever way
  you want to put it). You
  also say that it is very hard to run new drops. Why
  don't you take the
  approach of supporting them then, and instead of
  going through the work of
  running new drops, provide them with a small switch
  that runs spanning-tree.
 
  A 1548M (8-port desktop chassis) would do nicely for
  around $1K list. It
  allows for up to 4 local VLANs so the techs can do
  whatever they want on
  their own little switch. It also runs CDP so you can
  keep track of where
  they are through management tools like CiscoWorks,
  etc. If they want to clog
  up their link to the rest of the network with 5 PCs
  doing whatever, why not
  let them (as long as they do it safely)?
 
  Check here for more info on the 1548M:
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps211/index.html
 
  HTH
 
  Greg Reaume
 
 
 
  JohnZ  wrote in message
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  Well, when I wrote the orginal post I knew I will
  have these questions.
  Basically the first layer of support or help desk if
  you will have more PCs
  then the drops in their cubes. This is an old
  building not meant for an IS
  staff so there is some frustration on their part. I
  am not going to question
  if there is a legit need for folks to have 5 PCs
  when there is infact a
  seperate staging area to set up and test pcs for
  users. Any ways they know
  enough to be dangerous and there is no standard on
  hubs and I have seen
  where folks have created loops. Now with Windows XP
  I have seen some configs
  where 2 nics have been bridged via software I am not
  sure with what intent.
  Although it's been made clear many times not to use
  hubs but this is never
  enforced and I did not want to spend my time daily
  trying to hunt down the
  lawless. So that's when I thought if I could config
  the switch this will
  discourage the hub usage or bridging within pcs. I
  hope that answers most of
  the questions here.
  David j  wrote in message
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   See inline..
   Chuck's Long Road wrote:
   
as much of a rulemeister as I am, I still have
  to look at this
from the user
standpoint. Why are users throwing their own
  hubs onto the
network? Is there
a business case to be made? Is facilities too
  slow getting
requested cable
pulls done?
   
what is the concern with a user plugging a hub
  in at the desk
and then
connected a couple of extra PC's? if the problem
  is one of dual
homing by
accident or otherwise, I can see the issue with
  spanning tree
recalculations. But in a single home situation,
  what do you
  

Re: CAT 3550 for L2 [7:55017]

2002-10-07 Thread MADMAN

Naomi James wrote:
 
 Hi, I am replacing my 3524 XL switches with the 3550's.  Can I use the 3550
 EMI strikly as a L2 device 

  Yes

  Dave

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Re: Tech Tips [7:55034]

2002-10-07 Thread MADMAN

Ya I'm trying to feel my way around this new and improved format with
mixed results!!

  I think this is what your looking for:

http://www.cisco.com/public/support/tac/technologies.shtml

  Dave

Persio Pucci wrote:
 
 Hey folks,
 
 where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in the new
Cisco
 site? Did anybody find it already? :(
 
 Regards,
 
 Persio

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Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,

Now I am even more confused:

Based on the link that Dennis put out:

www.cisco.com/cco.shtml

It pulls up the previous Cisco web-page which states on the CCIE Lab policy 
page:

3.Written Exam Expiry

Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within 18 months of passing the 
CCIE Qualification exam.



OK, Did Cisco's web master/programmer just do a copy and paste the original 
policy (within 1 year) to the new web-page and just overlooked the existing 
one as put up on www.cisco.com/cco.shtml??

Cisco, any comments??

Bottomline: Are candidates like me then still safe?? (I would like to be 
:-)

Thank you.

Sincerely.




From: Clubb, Steven 
To: 'Cisco Nuts' , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:17:03 -0500

Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask - let us know.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]


Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE
Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
Anyone
else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.



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Re: ADSL Vs. SDSL [7:54909]

2002-10-07 Thread John Hutchison

We do use Verizon as well as several others. It IS possible to have ADSL
with the same up and down. SDSL isn't be definition just the same
bi-directional throughput speed. I have with Verizon as well as SWB ADSL
customers who get the same up and down speed. They are, however, still held
by the limits of ADSL. IE wire distance from the telco.




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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

WHY do you want PDF format?

Aser Anani wrote:
 
 yes
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Why do you want PDF format?
 
 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  nothing in PDF format
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
  message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   Hi there ,
  
   does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
 books ,
   i am looking
   for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
  
   Thanks
 
  Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.
 
  Priscilla
 
 




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Upgrade memory in Native mode [7:55040]

2002-10-07 Thread MADMAN

I have two sup1/w MSFC2.  I converted them to Native and I want to run
them in redundant mode.  Problem is one has 128M and the other has
512M.  I want to upgrade the 128 to 512 but thinking a moment I wasn't
sure what memory to upgrade.  My gut feel says the MSFC2 but I can find
no docs to verify this before I upgrade.

 Has anyone upgraded DRAM on a 6500 running native mode??

  Thanks

   Dave

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RE: Off topic - Cisco's jazzy web site [7:54966]

2002-10-07 Thread John Neiberger

I think that's what's bugging me.  The main page is WAY too busy; too
much information makes it difficult to take in.  I think they should
include an expert mode that turns off the 'helpful' notes about which
links do what.  If they really wanted to be helpful, they should allow
customizable home pages so that when we log in we have the items most
important to us immediately available.  If Excite can do it, I'm sure
Cisco can.  :-)

John

 Daniel Cotts  10/7/02 10:32:16 AM 
I'm seeing more integration between the marketing materials and the
technical materials. As expected, the marketing seems to be prominent.
I'll keep an open mind as to its improved/not improved logic.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

 Ugh...I just took a look.  Am I the only one who thinks this 
 is horrid?
 Perhaps I'm too used to the old layout but this seems to be much
more
 difficult to follow.  
 
 Oh well, in a few months I'm sure it will be old-hat.




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RE: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]

2002-10-07 Thread Daren Presbitero

Isn't there a limitation on the number of MACs that a port will handle?
Won't hubs share all those macs with each port, and possibly cause the max
limit to be reached?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]


David j wrote:

 See inline..
 Chuck's Long Road wrote:
 
  as much of a rulemeister as I am, I still have to look at this
  from the user
  standpoint. Why are users throwing their own hubs onto the
  network? Is there
  a business case to be made? Is facilities too slow getting
  requested cable
  pulls done?
 
  what is the concern with a user plugging a hub in at the desk
  and then
  connected a couple of extra PC's? if the problem is one of
 dual
  homing by
  accident or otherwise, I can see the issue with spanning tree
  recalculations. But in a single home situation,  what do you
  see as the
  issues?
 

 I see one issue: collisions, if you have a switched network you
 don't want to deal with collisions that hubs normally produce.
 I have to recognize, though, that hubs sometimes are very
 convenient and I'm the first on using them.

Collisions are only a problem for the hubbed network that the user made for
him/her self. The switched network is isolated from the collisions (with the
exception of the one switch port that connects the user's hub).

I say, let 'em do it! What's the harm? Don't you have way more bandwidth
than you need anyway?? ;-) A lot of companies do. Reference the disussion of
Cisco stock. Nobody's buying, because, guess what, we don't need it!??

Tech support is an issue, though, of course, for example, the user that is
clueful enough to know he/she needs a hub but not clueful enough to select
the right cable (x-over versus s/t) and duplex mode. Well a hub should
defaul to half, but a lot of devices that are marketed as hubs are really
switches or bridges.

But could you say they aren't supported rather than out right disallowing
them? Is there a comprosmise somewhere??
___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com


  when you say that politically, it's a mess what does that
  mean? high
  powered sales people throwing their weight around? management
  does not
  respect your input or concerns? something bad is happening,
 and
  it's rolling
  downhill?
 
 In some environments it's politically unacceptable, I know some
 hospitals in which you have to fill in a lot papers before
 being allowed to use a PC, so in that environments this could
 perfectly be part of the policy.

  I'm not questioning the wisdom or the necessity for doing what
  others have
  suggested. I'm just wondering why it is necessary for the
  network manager /
  network staff to unilaterally cut off user access.
 
 
 
 
  John Zaggat  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Thanks guys that's pretty good information, but do you think
  in your
  opinion
   is that good approach to deal with this problem. Do you see
  any caveats
  and
   are there any other ways this can be dealt with.
   Kevin Wigle  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
take a look into Port Security.
   
   
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_configuration
_guide_chapter09186a008007f2dd.html
   
In the event of a security violation, you can configure
 the
  port to go
   into
shutdown mode or restrictive mode. The shutdown mode
 option
  allows you
  to
specify whether the port is permanently disabled or
  disabled for only a
specified time. The default is for the port to shut down
  permanently.
  The
restrictive mode allows you to configure the port to
 remain
  enabled
  during
   a
security violation and drop only packets that are coming
 in
  from
  insecure
hosts.
   
Kevin Wigle
   
   
- Original Message -
From: John Zaggat
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]
   
   
 I am just trying to think of how to restrict Hubs from
  being used in
  the
 LAN. Politically it's a mess and despite a lot of
  discussions certain
people
 are able to add hubs at will where ever they want. So I
  was trying to
think
 of a way to stop that within the switch. Now normally
  these ports that
   the
 hubs are connected to show several mac addresses when I
  do show cam
which
 gives me an idea is there any way to restrict host ports
  to only
  accept
one
 mac-address. I don't want to hardcode the mac-address
  because that
  would
be
 too much a administrative burden. But if I could
 restrict
  the port to
accept
 just one mac-address then that will make these hubs
  useless. Well
   anyways
 let me know  if I am way off here but are there any
 other
  tricks in

NAT question? [7:55043]

2002-10-07 Thread Karl West

Can some one give me an example of using  ip nat inside destination ?
I know it enables NAT of the inside destination address. But I would
like to see an
example of how it is used. I check the cisco site but it doesn't go into
detail or maybe
I just didn't find it.

Thanks
Karl




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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Michael Linehan

I know you know this already but the only logical conclusion is that he
wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and distributed.

This of course places him directly in what I like to call the get it for
free, society.

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]


 WHY do you want PDF format?

 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  yes
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
  message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Why do you want PDF format?
 
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   nothing in PDF format
   Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
   message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Aser Anani wrote:
   
Hi there ,
   
does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
  books ,
i am looking
for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
   
Thanks
  
   Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.
  
   Priscilla
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RE: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Daren Presbitero wrote:
 
 Isn't there a limitation on the number of MACs that a port will
 handle?

Probably, but I bet the number is way bigger than he needs to worry about.
There's probably a max number of addresses for generic learning purposes and
a max number related to port security, which appears to be 132 from an
earlier post.

There's also the issue of how many MACs can eat up all of the available 100
Mbps, but once again, that's the user's problem.

 Won't hubs share all those macs with each port, and possibly
 cause the max
 limit to be reached?

All the MAC addressess behind the hub will be visible to all the switched
ports. Is that what you're getting at? It's a good point. The learning
process will need to know about all the MACs. But the max number of MAC
addresses that a switch can learn is large and not something he needs to
worry about.

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]
 
 
 David j wrote:
 
  See inline..
  Chuck's Long Road wrote:
  
   as much of a rulemeister as I am, I still have to look at
 this
   from the user
   standpoint. Why are users throwing their own hubs onto the
   network? Is there
   a business case to be made? Is facilities too slow getting
   requested cable
   pulls done?
  
   what is the concern with a user plugging a hub in at the
 desk
   and then
   connected a couple of extra PC's? if the problem is one of
  dual
   homing by
   accident or otherwise, I can see the issue with spanning
 tree
   recalculations. But in a single home situation,  what do you
   see as the
   issues?
  
 
  I see one issue: collisions, if you have a switched network
 you
  don't want to deal with collisions that hubs normally produce.
  I have to recognize, though, that hubs sometimes are very
  convenient and I'm the first on using them.
 
 Collisions are only a problem for the hubbed network that the
 user made for
 him/her self. The switched network is isolated from the
 collisions (with the
 exception of the one switch port that connects the user's hub).
 
 I say, let 'em do it! What's the harm? Don't you have way more
 bandwidth
 than you need anyway?? ;-) A lot of companies do. Reference the
 disussion of
 Cisco stock. Nobody's buying, because, guess what, we don't
 need it!??
 
 Tech support is an issue, though, of course, for example, the
 user that is
 clueful enough to know he/she needs a hub but not clueful
 enough to select
 the right cable (x-over versus s/t) and duplex mode. Well a hub
 should
 defaul to half, but a lot of devices that are marketed as hubs
 are really
 switches or bridges.
 
 But could you say they aren't supported rather than out right
 disallowing
 them? Is there a comprosmise somewhere??
 ___
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
 www.priscilla.com
 
 
   when you say that politically, it's a mess what does that
   mean? high
   powered sales people throwing their weight around?
 management
   does not
   respect your input or concerns? something bad is happening,
  and
   it's rolling
   downhill?
  
  In some environments it's politically unacceptable, I know
 some
  hospitals in which you have to fill in a lot papers before
  being allowed to use a PC, so in that environments this could
  perfectly be part of the policy.
 
   I'm not questioning the wisdom or the necessity for doing
 what
   others have
   suggested. I'm just wondering why it is necessary for the
   network manager /
   network staff to unilaterally cut off user access.
  
  
  
  
   John Zaggat  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Thanks guys that's pretty good information, but do you
 think
   in your
   opinion
is that good approach to deal with this problem. Do you
 see
   any caveats
   and
are there any other ways this can be dealt with.
Kevin Wigle  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 take a look into Port Security.


   
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_configuration
 _guide_chapter09186a008007f2dd.html

 In the event of a security violation, you can configure
  the
   port to go
into
 shutdown mode or restrictive mode. The shutdown mode
  option
   allows you
   to
 specify whether the port is permanently disabled or
   disabled for only a
 specified time. The default is for the port to shut down
   permanently.
   The
 restrictive mode allows you to configure the port to
  remain
   enabled
   during
a
 security violation and drop only packets that are coming
  in
   from
   insecure
 hosts.

 Kevin Wigle


 - Original Message -
 From: John Zaggat
 To:
  

Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55046]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

So Cisco's CCIE Team does listen...right away :-) That's good.

Here is the link, Melody:


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/learning_ccie_lab_exam_policies.html

Is this a mistake then?? Hopefully!!


Sincerely.





From: Melody Green 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why??  
[7:55019] (EVA-Lite Redirect)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:57:14 -0400

Hi,

The policy is that candidates must make their first lab attempt within 18 
months of passing their written exam.  Can you provide me with the link 
where you saw the policy stated as 12 months?

Thanks,

Melody



At 11:52 AM 10/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original-Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

Now I am even more confused:

Based on the link that Dennis put out:

www.cisco.com/cco.shtml

It pulls up the previous Cisco web-page which states on the CCIE Lab 
policy page:

 3.Written Exam Expiry

Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within 18 months of passing the 
CCIE Qualification exam.



OK, Did Cisco's web master/programmer just do a copy and paste the 
original policy (within 1 year) to the new web-page and just overlooked 
the existing one as put up on www.cisco.com/cco.shtml??

Cisco, any comments??

Bottomline: Are candidates like me then still safe?? (I would like to be 
:-)

Thank you.

Sincerely.




From: Clubb, Steven 
To: 'Cisco Nuts' , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:17:03 -0500

Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask - let us know.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]


Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE
Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
Anyone
else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.



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Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

So what is really true??

No spots opening up YET a severe decline in signing up??

What's really going on?

Anyone??




From: Chuck's Long Road 
Reply-To: Chuck's Long Road 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:25:11 GMT

fracking html filter let me try again without the html marking.



Chuck's Long Road  wrote in message
news:...
  There is a bigger question, maybe even a mystery here.

  I have heard that Cisco is experiencing a severe decline in the numbers 
of
  people actually showing up for their Lab exams. A lot of employers (
  including mine :-O ) are no longer paying for any training or tests 
because
  of the poor economy. I have heard that Cisco has even been holding a
  lottery, the prize being a free lab test for people who work for Cisco
  partners, in order to encourage people to pay up and show up.

  Yet I haven't seen any spots opening up.

  Wonder what's going on? Wonder what is true?




  Cisco Nuts  wrote in message
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   Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
   jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the
CCIE
   Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It 
was
   set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
   the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
   anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that 
have
   not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? 
Am
   I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one 
ask
   Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone 
else??
   Anyone
   else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.
  
   

  
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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Aser Anani

cuz thay r easy to read this way
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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WHY do you want PDF format?

Aser Anani wrote:

 yes
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Why do you want PDF format?

 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  nothing in PDF format
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
  message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   Hi there ,
  
   does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
 books ,
   i am looking
   for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
  
   Thanks
 
  Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.
 
  Priscilla




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DQoS Course Book [7:55050]

2002-10-07 Thread Juan Blanco

Team,
I am looking to buy the DQoS course book, if any one is interested please
let me know.
Thanks,

JB




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Re: NAT question? [7:55043]

2002-10-07 Thread Robert Edmonds

Ok, consider this.  You have a server behind a router and you want others on
the Internet to be able to use the services on this server.  The server's IP
address is 172.16.1.10.  You have a block of IP address given to you by your
ISP.  The addresses are 192.1.1.1 - 192.1.1.14 (this implies a subnet mask
of 255.255.255.240).  Now, you want the users on the Internet to use the IP
address 192.1.1.2 to connect to your internal router.  Your router is on
interface Ethernet1 and your internet connection is on interface Serial0.1.
The point to point link between you and your ISP uses the address
192.1.1.16/30.  Your end is 192.1.1.17 and theirs is 192.1.1.18.  Your
config would look something like this.

interface Ethernet1

 description Ethernet Connection to WEBSERVER

 ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0

 ip nat inside

defines the Ethernet 1 interface as an inside address



interface Serial0.1 point-to-point

 description Full T-1 to ISP

 ip address 192.1.1.17 255.255.255.252

 no ip directed-broadcast

 ip nat outside

-defines Serial0.1 as outside



ip nat inside source static 172.16.1.10 192.1.1.2

-assigns the outside address of 192.1.1.2 to the server at 172.16.1.10



ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.1.1.18

-default route, using ISP's router



ip route 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.255 Ethernet1

-if the server is directly connected to Ethernet1, route it this way



I hope this helps.


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 I know it enables NAT of the inside destination address. But I would
 like to see an
 example of how it is used. I check the cisco site but it doesn't go into
 detail or maybe
 I just didn't find it.

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RE: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Ellis, Andrew

or maybe he wants to read it on his laptop while commuting.

-Drew :^)

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]


I know you know this already but the only logical conclusion is that he
wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and distributed.

This of course places him directly in what I like to call the get it for
free, society.

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]


 WHY do you want PDF format?

 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  yes
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
  message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Why do you want PDF format?
 
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   nothing in PDF format
   Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
   message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Aser Anani wrote:
   
Hi there ,
   
does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
  books ,
i am looking
for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I
   
Thanks
  
   Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.
  
   Priscilla
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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Michael Linehan

You can't read a book on a plane???

- Original Message - 
From: Ellis, Andrew 
To: 'Michael Linehan' ; 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: E-books [7:55001]


 or maybe he wants to read it on his laptop while commuting.
 
 -Drew :^)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
 
 
 I know you know this already but the only logical conclusion is that he
 wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and distributed.
 
 This of course places him directly in what I like to call the get it for
 free, society.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
 Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
 
 
  WHY do you want PDF format?
 
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   yes
   Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
   message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Why do you want PDF format?
  
   Aser Anani wrote:
   
nothing in PDF format
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Aser Anani wrote:

 Hi there ,

 does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
   books ,
 i am looking
 for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle Vol I

 Thanks
   
Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books tab.
   
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Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? [7:55046]

2002-10-07 Thread Frank Merrill

Hmm...
I don't see where it says one year, I do see that it says 18 months, and
then within 12 months after the first attempt (if failed of course).

fgm



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DQoS Course Book [7:55054]

2002-10-07 Thread Juan Blanco

Team,
I am looking to buy the DQoS course book, if any one is interested please
let me know.
Thanks,

JB




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RE: NAT question? [7:55043]

2002-10-07 Thread Lupi, Guy

The following link has a configuration example of TCP load distribution
using NAT, that command is there: 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
/ipcprt1/1cdipadr.htm#xtocid2215662




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NAT question? [7:55043]


Can some one give me an example of using  ip nat inside destination ?
I know it enables NAT of the inside destination address. But I would
like to see an
example of how it is used. I check the cisco site but it doesn't go into
detail or maybe
I just didn't find it.

Thanks
Karl




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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Ben W

Yes you can, and you can also read it on your laptop which weighs a lot less
than lugging around Caslow and Doyle's books.  Give the guy a break.  He did
ask in his email of any website that SELLS pdf formats of books.

Michael Linehan wrote:
 
 You can't read a book on a plane???
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ellis, Andrew 
 To: 'Michael Linehan' ;
 
 Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:53 PM
 Subject: RE: E-books [7:55001]
 
 
  or maybe he wants to read it on his laptop while commuting.
  
  -Drew :^)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
  I know you know this already but the only logical conclusion
 is that he
  wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and
 distributed.
  
  This of course places him directly in what I like to call the
 get it for
  free, society.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
   WHY do you want PDF format?
  
   Aser Anani wrote:
   
yes
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Why do you want PDF format?
   
Aser Anani wrote:

 nothing in PDF format
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  Hi there ,
 
  does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
books ,
  i am looking
  for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle
 Vol I
 
  Thanks

 Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books
 tab.

 Priscilla
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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2283 (Out of the Office) [7:55058]

2002-10-07 Thread Daniel Cevallos

I will on vacation starting October 5 and will be returning to the office on
October 15, 2002.



Thanks,
Danny




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Re: NAT question? [7:55043]

2002-10-07 Thread Karl West

Thanks Guy...that was the information I was looking for...

Karl

Lupi, Guy wrote:

 The following link has a configuration example of TCP load distribution
 using NAT, that command is there:


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
 /ipcprt1/1cdipadr.htm#xtocid2215662

 -Original Message-
 From: Karl West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: NAT question? [7:55043]

 Can some one give me an example of using  ip nat inside destination ?
 I know it enables NAT of the inside destination address. But I would
 like to see an
 example of how it is used. I check the cisco site but it doesn't go into
 detail or maybe
 I just didn't find it.

 Thanks
 Karl




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Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? [7:55046]

2002-10-07 Thread Cisco Nuts

Well, well, well!!!

I have been monitoring the web-page for a couple of hours now and based on 
the email that I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a cut and paste has now been 
performed to reflect the old policy, that of taking the Lab exam within 18 
months. Hooray!!

Thank you Melody Green, Manager from [EMAIL PROTECTED] for resolving this right 
away.

Sincerely.




From: Frank Merrill 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? [7:55046]
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:05:04 GMT

Hmm...
I don't see where it says one year, I do see that it says 18 months, and
then within 12 months after the first attempt (if failed of course).

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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Ken Chipps

I like pdf format myself. I often print out a few pages or a chapter to
study from. Then I can highlight different parts for different areas of
study. This avoids messing up the original book. I have done this may times
with the Lanmmle books, all of which I paid for myself. In fact, I am doing
this right now as I leave for class. I need to brush up on VLAN
configuration. While the students are doing a lab on their own, I will be
reviewing VLAN information so I can create a new lab for VLANs in a CAN. I
wish all books came hardcover and pdf.

Ben W  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Yes you can, and you can also read it on your laptop which weighs a lot
less
 than lugging around Caslow and Doyle's books.  Give the guy a break.  He
did
 ask in his email of any website that SELLS pdf formats of books.

 Michael Linehan wrote:
 
  You can't read a book on a plane???
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ellis, Andrew
  To: 'Michael Linehan' ;
 
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:53 PM
  Subject: RE: E-books [7:55001]
 
 
   or maybe he wants to read it on his laptop while commuting.
  
   -Drew :^)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
   I know you know this already but the only logical conclusion
  is that he
   wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and
  distributed.
  
   This of course places him directly in what I like to call the
  get it for
   free, society.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
   To:
   Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
   Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
WHY do you want PDF format?
   
Aser Anani wrote:

 yes
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Why do you want PDF format?

 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  nothing in PDF format
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
  message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   Hi there ,
  
   does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
 books ,
   i am looking
   for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle
  Vol I
  
   Thanks
 
  Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books
  tab.
 
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Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55062]

2002-10-07 Thread Melody Green

Hi,

The information posted at this link is incorrect.  This is a new website 
format but seems to contain some of our older policy information.  I've 
contacted the team in charge of the new website and they'll be making the 
corrections soon.

Regards,

Melody




At 07:23 PM 10/7/2002 +, Cisco Nuts wrote:
So Cisco's CCIE Team does listen...right away :-) That's good.

Here is the link, Melody:


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/learning_ccie_lab_exam_policies.html

Is this a mistake then?? Hopefully!!


Sincerely.





From: Melody Green 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Even more confused: Was: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why??
[7:55019] (EVA-Lite Redirect)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:57:14 -0400

Hi,

The policy is that candidates must make their first lab attempt within 18 
months of passing their written exam.  Can you provide me with the link 
where you saw the policy stated as 12 months?

Thanks,

Melody



At 11:52 AM 10/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
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Original-Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

Now I am even more confused:

Based on the link that Dennis put out:

www.cisco.com/cco.shtml

It pulls up the previous Cisco web-page which states on the CCIE Lab 
policy page:

 3.Written Exam Expiry

Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within 18 months of passing 
the CCIE Qualification exam.



OK, Did Cisco's web master/programmer just do a copy and paste the 
original policy (within 1 year) to the new web-page and just overlooked 
the existing one as put up on www.cisco.com/cco.shtml??

Cisco, any comments??

Bottomline: Are candidates like me then still safe?? (I would like to 
be :-)

Thank you.

Sincerely.




From: Clubb, Steven 
To: 'Cisco Nuts' , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:17:03 -0500

Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask - let us know.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]


Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new
jazzy web-site?  They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE
Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was
set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for
the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots
anywhere.  My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have
not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am
I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask
Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else??
Anyone
else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely.



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Re: Upgrade memory in Native mode [7:55063]

2002-10-07 Thread MADMAN

I'm a little slow today I guess.  After I sent the mail it occured to
me I have both cards why not swap the memory of the MSFC's and see if my
suspicions are correct.  It is the MSFC DRAM that you upgrade!!

  Dave

MADMAN wrote:
 
   I have two sup1/w MSFC2.  I converted them to Native and I want to run
 them in redundant mode.  Problem is one has 128M and the other has
 512M.  I want to upgrade the 128 to 512 but thinking a moment I wasn't
 sure what memory to upgrade.  My gut feel says the MSFC2 but I can find
 no docs to verify this before I upgrade.
 
  Has anyone upgraded DRAM on a 6500 running native mode??
 
   Thanks
 
Dave
 
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Migration Plan (6509) [7:55064]

2002-10-07 Thread Azhar Teza

What is the best way to perform Migration?   I have a customer who has
currently running CAT5000 as a backbone switch and tons of 3COM switches at
access layer.  We would be installing (2) 6509 switches with 3524 switches
will be used at access layers and server farms. It is a campus environments
and they have tons of IDFs.  We will have about 15 VLANS will be load
balancing between (2) 6509 switches along with HSRP for Layer 3 redundancy. 
During the First phase, I want to configure (2) 6509 along with the
Serverfarm switches.  The way I would migrate is that I will connect their
Existing backbone Cat 5000 with (2) 6509 switches, and will also force to
Cat5000 to become non-root switch.  By doing that I could slowly move users
from their current network to the new switches and both the newtworks will
have an access to the servers which will be on its own subnet in (5) 3524
gigastack switches.   The only problem I see it here is these 15 VLANS.  I
guess I will also have to configure their existing subnets and VLANS to the
6509 switches only temporarily basis  because those VLANS and Subnets coming
from 3com switches to new 6509 via Cat5000, and in order to reply back, 
6509 will have to know the routes and vlans. Is it right approach or someone
have a better suggestion? Regards, Teza


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Re: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

2002-10-07 Thread Greg Reaume

That is something that you could do using NAT statements (port address
translation/port forwarding/network address port translation, etc.):

!
int fa0/0
 desc external interface
 ! ip below used as an example, I apologize if it, although unlikely,
matches anyone's config.
 ip add 216.253.64.2 255.255.255.252
 ip nat outside
!
int fa0/1
 desc internal interface
 ip add 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
!
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.10 80 216.253.64.2 80
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.20 21 216.253.64.2 21
!

Of course, if this router is acting in this fashion when it comes to NAT, it
would be assumed that it will also run the firewall feature-set and be
secured appropriately.  You would have to permit this particular traffic in
your external access-lists.

HTH

Greg Reaume


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This is something I've been wondering about also. As I understand it when
you set ip next-hop it forces the packet to go out a particular interface.

How about if you want the destination address changed for a particular type
of traffic so HTTP traffic goes to an HTTP server and FTP to an FTP server.

For example, if you have only one Public IP Address and if HTTP comes in you
want its destination address changed to 192.168.1.10, if FTP change its
destination address to 192.168.1.20

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Razeshu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 4:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Route-map question (urgent) [7:54910]

I think the response for this question is:

The access list:
access-list 101 permit tcp any eq www any
!-you need to detect your incoming www traffic.
!-You can use also your network address for the first any.
!-route map statement
route-map http_access permit 10
match ip address 101
set ip next-hop 10.10.10.141

The policy map statement need to be place on the interface
that is facing
your network not to the interface near by the host
10.10.10.141.
Regards,
Stefan

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Re: Inside Interface accepts DHCP lease...but it has a static [7:55066]

2002-10-07 Thread Erick B.

That is strange. What type of router and IOS version? 

Just to clarify, the interface has 'ip address x.x.x.x
y.y.y.y' config and not 'ip address dhcp' with a
static DHCP assigned address. Being DSL, is it PPPoE
by chance?

Does e0 connect to DSL/Internet and e1 to their
network or vice versa?

--- Dain Deutschman  wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a problem with a client on a dsl connection.
 Ethernet 0 and 1 both
 have statically assigned IP addresses. I leave the
 customer site and 3 days
 later they call and have no internet. I check the
 router config and E0 has
 the wrong IP address. I check the Win2000 DHCP
 server and that address is
 listed as leased to the router.
 
 Any ideas why the router is allowing this to happen?
 
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Message for jstrain@pomeroy.com (Jim) [7:55067]

2002-10-07 Thread Juan Blanco

Jim,
I try to replay back to you but I am getting the following message:

The message that you sent was undeliverable to the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail address access denied)

Possibly truncated original message follows:

If you get back to me with a valid e-mail address I really appreciate it.

Juan




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Recall: Message for jstrain@pomeroy.com (Jim) [7:55068]

2002-10-07 Thread Juan Blanco

Juan Blanco would like to recall the message, Message for
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Re: CCIE written revised [7:53972]

2002-10-07 Thread Steve

dude,

This is cisco we are talking about. This is not some 24.95 t shirt. tell her
that and if she dosnt get it send her over here and i will gear her up with
a 7507 and a 5505 haha




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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Michael Linehan wrote:
 
 You can't read a book on a plane???

Or an electronic document that's not PDF since PDF is so easy to share. I
was wondering if there's anything so great about PDF. I wrote a longer
message but it was filtered, despite having very nice language. ;-)

Priscilla


 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ellis, Andrew 
 To: 'Michael Linehan' ;
 
 Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:53 PM
 Subject: RE: E-books [7:55001]
 
 
  or maybe he wants to read it on his laptop while commuting.
  
  -Drew :^)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
  I know you know this already but the only logical conclusion
 is that he
  wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and
 distributed.
  
  This of course places him directly in what I like to call the
 get it for
  free, society.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
   WHY do you want PDF format?
  
   Aser Anani wrote:
   
yes
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
message
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Why do you want PDF format?
   
Aser Anani wrote:

 nothing in PDF format
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
 message
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 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  Hi there ,
 
  does anybody know a website that sell PDF format cisco
books ,
  i am looking
  for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle
 Vol I
 
  Thanks

 Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online Books
 tab.

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RE: Tech Tips [7:55015]

2002-10-07 Thread Anthony Mann

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Persio Pucci
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Subject: Tech Tips [7:55015]

Hey folks,

where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere in the new
Cisco
site? Did anybody find it already? :(

Regards,

Persio




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Network security on Frame Relay, ATM and IP netwoks [7:55073]

2002-10-07 Thread Yatou Wu

All,

any information sources, like websites, regarding network security on 
service providers Frame Relay, ATM, or IP networks? what are the 
vulnerabilities that a service provider's Frame Relay, ATM or IP networks 
have?

Thanks a lot!

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Re: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I haven't looked into how Cisco Press is doing their online books. I think
you have to subscribe or something.

The publishers are interested in technical feedback on what works for
people. They know they need to address the need for electronic access at a
reasonable price. Most of them are kind of fumbling around trying to figure
this out. If there's legitimate reasons for liking PDF, I think that's good
feedback.

I doubt they'll use PDF, though, because it's too easy to share. The
publishers will definitely need to make money on the electronic products and
they will want to minimize easy access to the products by people who want to
get something for nothing, or, worse, people who want to sell the
publisher's property without the publisher's consent.

Hey, I'm beginning to sound like a lawyer. Seriously, there's lots of room
for innovation here with results that please the customer and make business
sense for the publisher. Now I sound like a marketer. From an author's point
of view, I want people to see all that content I worked so hard on. The
money is nice but so small, it's secondary.

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Ken Chipps wrote:
 
 I like pdf format myself. I often print out a few pages or a
 chapter to
 study from. Then I can highlight different parts for different
 areas of
 study. This avoids messing up the original book. I have done
 this may times
 with the Lanmmle books, all of which I paid for myself. In
 fact, I am doing
 this right now as I leave for class. I need to brush up on VLAN
 configuration. While the students are doing a lab on their own,
 I will be
 reviewing VLAN information so I can create a new lab for VLANs
 in a CAN. I
 wish all books came hardcover and pdf.
 
 Ben W  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Yes you can, and you can also read it on your laptop which
 weighs a lot
 less
  than lugging around Caslow and Doyle's books.  Give the guy a
 break.  He
 did
  ask in his email of any website that SELLS pdf formats of
 books.
 
  Michael Linehan wrote:
  
   You can't read a book on a plane???
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Ellis, Andrew
   To: 'Michael Linehan' ;
  
   Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:53 PM
   Subject: RE: E-books [7:55001]
  
  
or maybe he wants to read it on his laptop while
 commuting.
   
-Drew :^)
   
-Original Message-
From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
   
   
I know you know this already but the only logical
 conclusion
   is that he
wants PDF format so its easily illegally copied and
   distributed.
   
This of course places him directly in what I like to call
 the
   get it for
free, society.
   
- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To:
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: E-books [7:55001]
   
   
 WHY do you want PDF format?

 Aser Anani wrote:
 
  yes
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
  message
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  Why do you want PDF format?
 
  Aser Anani wrote:
  
   nothing in PDF format
   Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
   message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Aser Anani wrote:
   
Hi there ,
   
does anybody know a website that sell PDF format
 cisco
  books ,
i am looking
for Caslow Bridging book  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle
   Vol I
   
Thanks
  
   Go to www.ciscopress.com and click on the Online
 Books
   tab.
  
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Re: Flash Memory and DRAM [7:55009]

2002-10-07 Thread Reza Sharifi

The cheapest place I have found is Ebay.com they go for about $20 each. I
just got 2 for my 2500 routers.
hope this helps
Reza


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Re: OT: CSCO stock [7:54957]

2002-10-07 Thread nrf


 Sorry to be so pessimistic. NRF - got anything to add?

Oh, I got lots to add.  But let me try to keep it short by couching things
in the following bullet points:

*If you want money, somebody has to be ultimately paying.  Money in, money
out.

Cisco is not a mint.  No vendor is a mint.  Cisco can only earn money
sustainably if their customers are making money.  And not just making money,
but making money by using Cisco gear.  You can only get money out if there
is money coming in. Is that really happening?

Let me explain.  Let's look at the Internet.  Many studies have shown a boom
in Internet usage.  A boom in traffic.  A boom in users. A boom in time
spent on the Internet.  In all categories there is a boom, except for the
one category that matters - a boom in profits.  How many dotcoms actually
make money?  Few, very few.  How many service-providers actually make profit
from providing Internet access?  Again, few, very few.   If you tally the
aggregate of all the profit and losses derived from Internet operations, you
will see that the Internet has been nothing but a financial debacle of the
first order.  A business model where you, as a vendor, are making record
profits while many of your customers are unprofitable is a business model
that is unsustainable.

True, Cisco is not just all about the Internet.  So let's look at Cisco's
bread-and-butter - the enterprise customer.  Enterprises will continue to
invest in their network only to the degree that it is profitable to do so.
Has Cisco, or any other networking vendor, been able to demonstrate a solid
ROI from upgrading the network?In many cases, no.  Companies don't just
build out networks 'for fun', they do so because there is a clear business
reason to do so.   What are these reasons?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there are no good reasons to do
a network buildout.  Indeed there are often many good reasons.  But my point
is that we need engineers who are not only technically strong, but can also
articulate a strong business case as to why money should be spent.  In
short, we engineers need to know more about the business and financial side
of things.

*How many people really care about the network?

By that, I mean how many regular (non-technical) people really care about a
network at all?  Are they going to be dazzled with mentions of BGP and VoIP
and all that crap?  Hardly.  Regular people care about the services that a
network can provide.  It is the services that people are willing to pay for,
not the network itself.  But that begs the question - are there really all
these jazzy services out there that regular people are willing to pay for?
Before you answer, you may wish to consider the following snippet from the
Hart-Winston study:

The bottom line is that among people who are most likely to subscribe to
high-speed Internet access, the obstacles are price and lack of appeal,
said Hart, CEO of Hart Research. Forty-eight percent have no interest
regardless of price and another 21 percent are willing to pay at most $20
per month. If you cannot win over the people who are currently using the
Internet, consumer acceptance of high-speed access will be slow and
limited...Findings about consumer interest in subscribing to high-speed
service also apply to those who use it at work, the poll found, indicating
that even those exposed to the service find little reason to subscribe at
home
http://www.comptel.org/press/nov29_2001_voices.html

Then of course there was that incident in Oregon where a whole town was
offered free broadband for a year, and only half the households signed up
(can't find the article unfortunately, but you may wish to talk to Steven
Ridder if you want to see it).  The point is, at this time, very few regular
people actually care about the Internet because there are no truly
compelling services out there, and especially not much that people are
willing to pay serious money for.

* Cisco isn't going anywhere.

All the nasty invective aside, the fact is that Cisco holds more of a
premier position in the industry than perhaps at any other time.  They got
billions of dollars in the bank, and very importantly, no debt.  The
disaster of the service-provider market was something of a godsend to Cisco
in the sense that it has crushed its competitors like Nortel and Lucent.
Just a few years ago there was talk of how Cisco was going to have its lunch
eaten by those Nor/cent because of their long-standing close relationships
with service-providers.  You don't hear that kind of talk anymore.  The fact
is, Cisco has basically been handed another few years for which it can
develop a strong service-provider initiative (no, Stratacom didn't really
work out, and the GSR is a point product, it's not an initiative).

*The best move may be not to play.

Cisco and networking in general most likely has its glory days behind it.
Things will probably never be as good as they were.  Cisco will probably
never reach a market cap of 

Security inside TPIPS cloud [7:55074]

2002-10-07 Thread John Brandis

Hi All,
 
I use Telstra to provide my frame relay cloud, next hop service. Like the
question earlier, is there any mechanism in place, so I can see if Telstra
is doing the job its paid to do in relation to:
 
* Security
* Traffic shaping within the cloud
 
Thanks all for your help.
 
John
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RE: redundant power feed for 3548 XL [7:54988]

2002-10-07 Thread Anthony Mann

I've done it...it took both feeds fine (for a few minutes...didn't run
it too long), however does not act redundant  The switch will loose
power going to DC.

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Subject: redundant power feed for 3548 XL [7:54988]

Hi All,

The 3548XL has like the 2900 a DC input as well as a AC input. Has
anyone
of you guys tried to connect both? The manuals says not to do it. If
this
works you'll have a very cheap redundant power solution, of course Cisco
doesn't like it and will say it's impossible ;-)

Any experience connecting the AC to wall power and DC with a external
power supply?

grtz,

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Re: IDS Sensor action [7:54762]

2002-10-07 Thread Juli Hato

Hi Bruno,

When the IDS detects an unauthorized activity, the posibly action for the 
sensor are:
1. TCP Reset,
2. IP Log
3. IP Block

The sensor cannot shutdown an interface and do not do a trace route to the 
attackers.
CMIAW

Best Regards,
HATO


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IDS Sensor action [7:54762]
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:23:20 GMT

Hi !!!

If a sensor detects unauthorized activity, are the following possible
action ?

(action1) -- Shutdown Interface
(action2) -- Perform a traceroute to the source of the attack



I am taking the Vconsole tests and some of their answers follow this
actions, but this doesn't make much sense to me, to what i have read
about it.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Migration Plan (6509) [7:55064]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

interesting.

The following may or may not be feasible, depending upon space in closets,
and cost of implementation. It is something my employer is supposed to be
doing for the various branch offices of a major customer we have during a
major network forklift upgrade. It has tended not to happen this way for a
lot of reasons, political and practical.

1) Place all new switches into the various closets. Connect them up

2) set up a gateway ( single link ) between the new core switch(s) and the
old core switch(s)

3) test connectivity by taking a laptop with as many user applications as
practical, and go from closet to closet testing connectivity to the various
servers, services, etc.

4) assuming point three results in connectivity everywhere, do a closet by
closet migration of users from the old switches to the new switches.

5) migrate all devices ( servers, internet, etc ) onto the new core
switches.

6) assuming all remains well, unplug the old stuff  and if Cisco is not
offering you a generous trade in, sell it on one of the auction sites.

Like I said, sometimes time, space, and cost does not permit this.

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 What is the best way to perform Migration?   I have a customer who has
 currently running CAT5000 as a backbone switch and tons of 3COM switches
at
 access layer.  We would be installing (2) 6509 switches with 3524 switches
 will be used at access layers and server farms. It is a campus
environments
 and they have tons of IDFs.  We will have about 15 VLANS will be load
 balancing between (2) 6509 switches along with HSRP for Layer 3
redundancy.
 During the First phase, I want to configure (2) 6509 along with the
 Serverfarm switches.  The way I would migrate is that I will connect their
 Existing backbone Cat 5000 with (2) 6509 switches, and will also force to
 Cat5000 to become non-root switch.  By doing that I could slowly move
users
 from their current network to the new switches and both the newtworks will
 have an access to the servers which will be on its own subnet in (5) 3524
 gigastack switches.   The only problem I see it here is these 15 VLANS.  I
 guess I will also have to configure their existing subnets and VLANS to
the
 6509 switches only temporarily basis  because those VLANS and Subnets
coming
 from 3com switches to new 6509 via Cat5000, and in order to reply back,
 6509 will have to know the routes and vlans. Is it right approach or
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Re: How to restrict hubs in a LAN [7:54937]

2002-10-07 Thread Chuck's Long Road

Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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 Daren Presbitero wrote:
 
  Isn't there a limitation on the number of MACs that a port will
  handle?

 Probably, but I bet the number is way bigger than he needs to worry about.
 There's probably a max number of addresses for generic learning purposes


CL: in case anyone is interested, the max number of macs supported on any of
the Cisco switches is fluid, depending on other features turned on, amount
of memory, etc. . The 3550 documentation states that depending upon the SDM
template that is active, one may have anywhere from 2,000 to 12,000 unicast
MAC's in the CAM table. I am assuming this means that if you have lots of
hubs and switches daisy chanined down the line, that the MAC's of end
stations will show up in the root switch CAM. Obviously, if all you have are
end stations in a single switch, that number is smaller.

CL: this does bring up a good point about size ( number of devices -
servers, PC's, and other switches ) in a bridged network.


and
 a max number related to port security, which appears to be 132 from an
 earlier post.

 There's also the issue of how many MACs can eat up all of the available
100
 Mbps, but once again, that's the user's problem.

  Won't hubs share all those macs with each port, and possibly
  cause the max
  limit to be reached?

 All the MAC addressess behind the hub will be visible to all the switched
 ports. Is that what you're getting at? It's a good point. The learning
 process will need to know about all the MACs. But the max number of MAC
 addresses that a switch can learn is large and not something he needs to
 worry about.

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  David j wrote:
  
   See inline..
   Chuck's Long Road wrote:
   
as much of a rulemeister as I am, I still have to look at
  this
from the user
standpoint. Why are users throwing their own hubs onto the
network? Is there
a business case to be made? Is facilities too slow getting
requested cable
pulls done?
   
what is the concern with a user plugging a hub in at the
  desk
and then
connected a couple of extra PC's? if the problem is one of
   dual
homing by
accident or otherwise, I can see the issue with spanning
  tree
recalculations. But in a single home situation,  what do you
see as the
issues?
   
  
   I see one issue: collisions, if you have a switched network
  you
   don't want to deal with collisions that hubs normally produce.
   I have to recognize, though, that hubs sometimes are very
   convenient and I'm the first on using them.
 
  Collisions are only a problem for the hubbed network that the
  user made for
  him/her self. The switched network is isolated from the
  collisions (with the
  exception of the one switch port that connects the user's hub).
 
  I say, let 'em do it! What's the harm? Don't you have way more
  bandwidth
  than you need anyway?? ;-) A lot of companies do. Reference the
  disussion of
  Cisco stock. Nobody's buying, because, guess what, we don't
  need it!??
 
  Tech support is an issue, though, of course, for example, the
  user that is
  clueful enough to know he/she needs a hub but not clueful
  enough to select
  the right cable (x-over versus s/t) and duplex mode. Well a hub
  should
  defaul to half, but a lot of devices that are marketed as hubs
  are really
  switches or bridges.
 
  But could you say they aren't supported rather than out right
  disallowing
  them? Is there a comprosmise somewhere??
  ___
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
  www.priscilla.com
 
  
when you say that politically, it's a mess what does that
mean? high
powered sales people throwing their weight around?
  management
does not
respect your input or concerns? something bad is happening,
   and
it's rolling
downhill?
   
   In some environments it's politically unacceptable, I know
  some
   hospitals in which you have to fill in a lot papers before
   being allowed to use a PC, so in that environments this could
   perfectly be part of the policy.
  
I'm not questioning the wisdom or the necessity for doing
  what
others have
suggested. I'm just wondering why it is necessary for the
network manager /
network staff to unilaterally cut off user access.
   
   
   
   
John Zaggat  wrote in message
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 Thanks guys that's pretty good information, but do you
  think
in your
opinion
 is that good approach to deal with this problem. Do you
  see
any caveats
and
 are there any other ways 

RE: Tech Tips [7:55080]

2002-10-07 Thread tan

I am not quite sure what the original poster meant by where did the pages
go? What link were you using that isn't working now.

1. I have this in my bookmarks for tech notes and it still works. It is
distinctly different interface than below. This heirarchy is listed down
center of page.
http://www.cisco.com/public/technotes/serv_tips.shtml

2. And this for tech support which still works with heirarchy on left.
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/PSP/index.pl?i=Technologies
Which look identical to this link which MADMAN says is new?
http://www.cisco.com/public/support/tac/technologies.shtml

3. The link from the top page of cisco.com now takes you here, and this the
new technology support portal, no? After going a little deeper, looks like
the interface of the 2 above with the heirearchy on the left, but end pages
are different.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/index.html


No 1, 2, and 3 are all distinctly different portals into the tech support.
The organization top down is different, but the final pages seem identical.
I went to the top of each and headed for OSPF troubleshooting. The resulting
page of no 1 and 2 above both point to same URL. No 3 point to different
URL, with same information...probably just a server side function taking the
original html of 1 or 2 and re-framing it.

Best to get use to new one as this will be on the DOC CDs in the lab in the
future. Nice to know more of this from Cisco.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:36 AM
 To: Persio Pucci
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Tech Tips


  Ya I'm trying to feel my way around this new and improved
 format with
 mixed results!!

   I think this is what your looking for:

 http://www.cisco.com/public/support/tac/technologies.shtml

   Dave

 Persio Pucci wrote:
 
  Hey folks,
 
  where did the Tech Tips go that I cannot find it anywhere
 in the new Cisco
  site? Did anybody find it already? :(
 
  Regards,
 
  Persio

 --
 David Madland
 CCIE# 2016
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Qwest Communications
 612-664-3367

 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston
 Churchill




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how to interpret lab score [7:55081]

2002-10-07 Thread Edward Sohn

Hello, all

I'll be taking my lab in a few weeks, and I want to make sure I
understand how the scoring system works.  I've seen a lot of differing
opinions and reports on the subject, and I was wondering if there was an
accurate way to interpret the score.  

For example, I understand that there is a percentage breakdown.  How
does this translate into a passing/failing grade?  I don't *think* I am
violating any NDA rules in asking this question.  Obviously, please
respond within that context.

Thanks in advance,

Ed




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