RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Monu Sekhon
Thanx, 
for instant reply.
I am referring to have same ip on the serial interfaces of client router.
Again I will show u my topolgy

client-routerserver-router(isp)
2serial intf   2 serial intf
serial 0 -ip add- 1.1.1.1 serial 0  ip add- 1.1.1.2
serial 1 -ip add- 1.1.1.1 serial 1  ip add- 1.1.1.2 

I am using here duplicate ips on serial interfaces, is  this connection
correct or what design issues this has.

We can use dulicate ip on serial with themselves but not duplicate with
ethernet or loopback why ? any reason.
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Mark Tinka wrote:
 
 i am not sure i understand your question, but from what u are
 saying, u want your central and client router to have the same
 IP address on their serial interfaces... why would u want
 that.. just having the IP address in the same subnet should do
 e.g 1.1.1.0/30 ...
 
 anyway, i think u may have a routing issue.. since 1.1.1.1/24
 is directly connected on both routers, how would u tell the
 local router that 1.1.1.1/24 is on the other [destination
 router] side of the serial link, yet it knows its a local
 address...?..
 
 please provide more information for the solution u need, and we
 can help work with something more scalable..
 
 good luck..

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Hi All, 
I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on serial interfaces
among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on serial with
Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.


My topology is like this 

Client router server router(connected back to back) 
2 interfaces 2 inetrfaces 


these routers connected back to back 


configuration 
int serial 0/0 
encap hdlc 
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 

int serial 0/1 
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 
encap hdlc 



now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given duplicate ip among
themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
and i am able to ping remote side. 



The ques is that 

1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial interface 
doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback 

2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it has 

Does this type of design can be used, 

This is small thing is confusing me about ip. 

Thanx in advance 





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Terminal server session timeouts (PIX VPN) [7:62734]

2003-02-10 Thread Wagner Jeff
Hi all,

I have two PIX 501's, one at head office one at remote end, linked together
using IPSec VPN.  The problem I have is that users at the remote site, have
timeout issues using MS Terminal Server client.

It is very random too.  Sometimes users can be connected for 5-6 hours
without getting disconnected from the terminal server, other times their
connection drops after only 20-30 minutes.

The TS server is located at the head office, and the LAN users at the HQ do
not have timeout issues, only the remote users do.

At first I thought the VPN idle-time value may have something to do with it
(originally set to vpngroup VPN-TO-HQ idle-time 1200 seconds), so I
increased that to 86400 seconds, but that did not fix the problem.

I then tried to adjust the xlate timeout values.  I increased the timeout
xlate value to 3:00:00, that did not fix it either.

So here I am, at a loss as to what else I can try.

Oh, the PIX software versions are:

Headoffice: 6.2(2)
Remote: 6.1(4)

If anyone has similar experience, and you found some fix for it, please let
me know.

Cheers
Jeff






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logging question. [7:62735]

2003-02-10 Thread Casey, Paul (6822)
Hello Group,

On a router you have the following logging available,
 
alerts Immediate action needed (severity=1)
critical Critical conditions (severity=2)
debugging Debugging messages (severity=7)
emergencies System is unusable (severity=0)
errors Error conditions (severity=3)
informational Informational messages (severity=6)
notifications Normal but significant conditions (severity=5)
warnings Warning conditions (severity=4)
 

If you type :
logging buffered debug 
 
You log severity 7 and all lower levels on ie, 6,5,4,3...0 Is it possible to
logging particular severity levels, say you wanted to log severity 7,4,1
only can this be achived on a router,
 
Any help appreciated,
 
Kind regards.
 
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RE: BGP help needed., [7:62736]

2003-02-10 Thread Casey, Paul (6822)
Hello, 

I have the practise lab I am working on.
3 routers in lab,

AS100 --AS200-AS300

I have a loopback 1.1.1.1 in AS100 and I want to advertise it to AS200 who
in turn will advertise it to AS300. When it arrives in AS300 it has to look
like it originated in AS200 and NOT for AS300.
This needs be achieved with 1 command on AS200. 

Anyone any idea how to do get this to work,
Can this be done,..??

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pix: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62737]

2003-02-10 Thread Jens von Bülow
Greetings,


[jens@workstation jens]$ ssh 
@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that the RSA1 host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA1 key sent by the remote host is
ba:07:12:e4:ed:21:7f:d3:45:07:6b:37:fc:36:0a:04.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/jens/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this
message.
Offending key in /home/jens/.ssh/known_hosts:2
RSA1 host key for cf17.jhb.nha.co.za has changed and you have requested
strict checking.
Host key verification failed.


I am not sure under what conditions the ssh key for a PIX 515 would change -
I have confirmed that it is not a DNS problem and confirmed that there are
no private machines in between the workstation and the PIX firewall.

I do know that we hade maintenance work done on the power in the computer
room over the weekend = a reboot of the PIX - but why would that cause a
change to its identification?

Any clues/pointers?

Thanks  Regards
Jens




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Password recovery [7:62738]

2003-02-10 Thread Philip van Dalen
Hi

I need to recover the password for a CISCO 2611 without wiping the
config?

Any idea's?

Philip




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Re: Password recovery [7:62738]

2003-02-10 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
Philip van Dalen wrote:

 I need to recover the password for a CISCO 2611 without wiping the
 config?
 
 Any idea's?

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/pswdrec_2600.shtml

Regards,

Marco.




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E3 bandwidth issue. [7:62740]

2003-02-10 Thread Router Kid
If a client were to take an E3 (T3) would they be able to cap/restrict the
bandwidth at lets say 20Mbps? could something be done to the router to allow
this?


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Fast Ethernet and ATM won't play nicely? [7:62741]

2003-02-10 Thread Martin Reilly
I have an interesting problem with an attempt to add an ATM card (an
ATM-1AE3) into a 3640.

I'm using 12.2.13a Enterprise Plus IOS (ie most recent available).

Router 1 is my test 3600.

Slot 0 - 2E2W dual ethernet / dual WIC (nothing in the WIC slots)
Slot 1 - Serial 4T
Slot 2 - empty
Slot 3 - ATM 1A E3

Router 2 is the live network 3600.

Slot 0 - 2FE2W dual fast ethernet / dual WIC (nothing in the WIC slots)
Slot 1 - Serial 4T
Slot 2 - PRI 1CE1U
Slot 3 - ATM 1A E3

Both routers report bootstrap 11.1(19)AA. Both had 12.2.13a installed from
the same image file.

Installed in Slot 3, the test router sees the ATM card, but the live router
doesn't.

I wondered if there might be a problem with the slot rather than the card,
so I tried putting a spare 2E2W card in slot 3 - that's seen with no
problems.

The only differences between the two setups are that the live router has
dual fast ethernet rather than ethernet, and it has the PRI card installed.

To see if it's the PRI card that makes the difference, I took it out and
rebooted - that made no difference, so it looks like the problem must have
something to do with the fast ethernet card.

Has anybody seen a similar problem or have any suggestions what I should try
next? I don't have a spare 2FE2W to try in the test router, sadly (and I
can't take the live one down until next weekend).

Cisco tell me that the ATM and Fast Ethernet should definitely work togther
(makes sense... wouldn't be terribly clever to bring a 34Mb ATM circuit into
a router then provide a nice 10M half duplex bottleneck onwards!). I've
opened a TAC call but do far I don't have an answer from Cisco...

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MPEG Filesharing Traffic [7:62742]

2003-02-10 Thread Christian Seemueller
Hello,

has anybody an idea, how to filter the new Media-Sharing-Tools like Kazaa
V.2.02, which ist tunneling it's data over an individual TCP-Port or Port
80. The pix would only filter to OSI-Level 5 i guess.
I tried to filter the whole subnet of kazaa.com, but this won't work well.

Any ideas welcome.
Chris




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RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62743]

2003-02-10 Thread Andrew Larkins
This means that someone changed the rsa key on the PIX and that is only
became active after the reboot.
Verify with your guys that they changed nothing - otherwise it could be a
sort of attack

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Subject: pix: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed
[7:62737]


Greetings,


[jens@workstation jens]$ ssh 
@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that the RSA1 host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA1 key sent by the remote host is
ba:07:12:e4:ed:21:7f:d3:45:07:6b:37:fc:36:0a:04.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/jens/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this
message.
Offending key in /home/jens/.ssh/known_hosts:2
RSA1 host key for cf17.jhb.nha.co.za has changed and you have requested
strict checking.
Host key verification failed.


I am not sure under what conditions the ssh key for a PIX 515 would change -
I have confirmed that it is not a DNS problem and confirmed that there are
no private machines in between the workstation and the PIX firewall.

I do know that we hade maintenance work done on the power in the computer
room over the weekend = a reboot of the PIX - but why would that cause a
change to its identification?

Any clues/pointers?

Thanks  Regards
Jens




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RE: Password recovery [7:62738]

2003-02-10 Thread R.S.Sundar
Hello Philip Van Dalen,

Try this link for details.Hope this may be usefull.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/pswdrec_2600.shtml

Best Regards,

R.S.Sundar


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Hi

I need to recover the password for a CISCO 2611 without wiping the
config?

Any idea's?

Philip
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RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62745]

2003-02-10 Thread Jens von Bülow
That is what I suspect or perhaps an overzealous engineer.

Does one specify the RSA key for SSH (is it the same as the one for the
IPSEC stuff)

How would one change such a thing? I don't remember having to ever create
one during the initial installation?

PS: I rebooted the box and noticed that the key once again changed - could
this problem be as a result of a corrupt flash card?



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Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62743]

This means that someone changed the rsa key on the PIX and that is only
became active after the reboot.
Verify with your guys that they changed nothing - otherwise it could be a
sort of attack






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PIX firewall [7:62746]

2003-02-10 Thread hanan
Hello

Could you please tell me in the PIX Cisco firewall their clients need to be
firewall clients or not?

Hanan




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RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62747]

2003-02-10 Thread Andrew Larkins
The RSA key pair is generated when you want to enable SSH access to the unit
Command for this is  ca generate rsa key . You need to have
configured the hostname and domain name before using this command.

remember to do the ca save all afterwards. Try that and see if the key
changes again after a reload. 

As far as I remember (rather rusty here), the RSA key pair is saved to some
other memory on the PIX (anyone correct me if I am wrong)

As for your IPSec question - are you using certificates or preshared keys.
If you are using certificates, then I think it is the same key - depends on
how you set it up originally (There are 2 key type - general and special) if
you never specified this, then a general key is created.

let us know how it goes

Andrew

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Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed
[7:62743]


That is what I suspect or perhaps an overzealous engineer.

Does one specify the RSA key for SSH (is it the same as the one for the
IPSEC stuff)

How would one change such a thing? I don't remember having to ever create
one during the initial installation?

PS: I rebooted the box and noticed that the key once again changed - could
this problem be as a result of a corrupt flash card?



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Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62743]

This means that someone changed the rsa key on the PIX and that is only
became active after the reboot.
Verify with your guys that they changed nothing - otherwise it could be a
sort of attack






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CiscoView and HP OpenView [7:62748]

2003-02-10 Thread Jimmy Leong
I have the following inquiries and need some advise :

1) Does CiscoView supports voice port ?
2) How many devices can CiscoView supports ?
3) Can CiscoView support non-Cisco product ?

   Can HP OpenView performs all task that CiscoView do ?

thanks in advance.



regards
Jimmy








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RE: Telnet to 2501 through a linksys router [7:62654]

2003-02-10 Thread Jason Steig
ahh i see i did not specify the gefault gatway command on my cisco 2501 for
the linksys.  all i did was make the external port for my sun box 2323 and
for my cisco 23 to activate the port forwarding from my linksys over my NAT
internally to my 2511 router.  Actually mine is also a 2511.
Sorry whoops i actually have a siemens router.  It works the same was as the
linksys with port forwarding.  So all i'am doing is port forarding port 23
and 2323 to seperate internal IP's

Router#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 997 bytes
!
version 12.2
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname Router
!
enable secret 5 $1$Tn.K$eTsahgNCkNWMWaSFRMa/A1
!
username all
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
!
ip ssh time-out 120
ip ssh authentication-retries 3
!
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip ospf network point-to-point
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.254.119 255.255.255.0 (interface i'am telneting too)
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.3.3 255.255.255.0
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
ip default-gateway 192.168.254.254  (I just added it)
ip classless
ip http server
ip pim bidir-enable
!
logging trap debugging
logging 192.168.254.176
snmp-server user internal internal v3
snmp-server group internal v3 noauth notify *tv..
snmp-server community internal RO
snmp-server host 192.168.254.176 version 3 noauth internal
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 logging synchronous
line 1 16
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 
 login
!
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RE: VPN Partial Connectivity [7:62639]

2003-02-10 Thread Albert Lu
Hi,

You mentioned that you were doing static nat on the router, this could
effect it if the vpn client terminates on the router. The ip addresses that
you have statics for is translated to the global IP address, and doesn't go
through your vpn, since the access-list in your crypto map doesn't identify
it as traffic needing to be encrypted.

Albert

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Hi,

When connecting a vpn via VPN Client 3.x I am able to ping only certain
addresses...
192.168.1.180 Server
192.168.1.10 LAN Station

But Not Others...
192.168.1.1 Inside Interface Of PIX
192.168.1.2 Mail Server
192.168.1.3 CSU/DSU management address

I have a vpn setup as follows:

Vpn Client--INTERNET--1721Router--PIX--LAN

*The 1721 router is doing static nat to the outside   interface of the pix.
The vpn terminates at the pix.

*I'm using vpngroup to assign ip info to the client.

* The LAN ip scheme is 192.168.1.0/24 where the first 9 addresses are left
out of the local dhcp pool

*The vpn client is getting assigned from local-pool range 192.168.2.1-50

*I have a route on the pix route inside 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

*The inside interface of the pix is 192.168.1.1

Here is my config...

PIX(config)# wr t
Building configuration...
: Saved
:
PIX Version 6.2(2)
nameif ethernet0 outside security0
nameif ethernet1 inside security100
enable password encrypted
passwd encrypted
hostname PIX
fixup protocol ftp 21
fixup protocol http 80
fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719
fixup protocol ils 389
fixup protocol rsh 514
fixup protocol rtsp 554
fixup protocol smtp 25
fixup protocol sqlnet 1521
fixup protocol sip 5060
fixup protocol skinny 2000
names
access-list 101 permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.0
255.255.255.0
pager lines 24
interface ethernet0 10baset
interface ethernet1 10baset
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500
ip address outside 172.16.2.2 255.255.255.240
ip address inside 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
ip audit info action alarm
ip audit attack action alarm
ip local pool NEWMEX 192.168.2.1-192.168.2.50
pdm history enable
arp timeout 14400
global (outside) 1 172.16.2.3
nat (inside) 0 access-list 101
nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
conduit permit icmp any any echo-reply
conduit permit icmp any any echo
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.16.2.1 1
route inside 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 1
timeout xlate 3:00:00
timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323
0:05:00 si
p 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00
timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute
aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+
aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius
aaa-server LOCAL protocol local
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
snmp-server community public
no snmp-server enable traps
floodguard enable
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
no sysopt route dnat
crypto ipsec transform-set myset esp-3des esp-sha-hmac
crypto dynamic-map dynmap 10 set transform-set myset
crypto map mymap 1 ipsec-isakmp dynamic dynmap
crypto map mymap interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp identity address
isakmp policy 10 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 10 encryption 3des
isakmp policy 10 hash sha
isakmp policy 10 group 2
isakmp policy 10 lifetime 86400
vpngroup vpn address-pool NEWMEX
vpngroup vpn dns-server x.x.x.y x.x.x.z
vpngroup vpn default-domain domain.com
vpngroup vpn split-tunnel 101
vpngroup vpn idle-time 1800
vpngroup vpn password
telnet timeout 5
ssh timeout 5
dhcpd address 192.168.1.10-192.168.1.42 inside
dhcpd lease 3600
dhcpd ping_timeout 750
dhcpd enable inside
terminal width 80
Cryptochecksum:a71ebfc24ae

Any ideas?? I'm sort of stumped at this point. Thanks!

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RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62749]

2003-02-10 Thread Jens von Bülow
Andrew,

Of interest is that the RSA key was generated sometime after my reboot of
the router. It looks like PDM (because this was the only way I could access
the device) created a new key for me or at some point... Not sure when...

Anyway, I ca zeroize rsa, ca generate rsa key and ca save alled my ca
stuff.

It now behaves as expected through a reboot.

One question though? How do I trust my PIX again? (FWIW - We archive the
configs of the PIX on a regular basis and the config hasn't changed)

Anybody else ever seen their ca configs break during a power cycle?

Regards
Jens


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 10 February 2003 02:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62747]

The RSA key pair is generated when you want to enable SSH access to the unit
Command for this is  ca generate rsa key . You need to have
configured the hostname and domain name before using this command.

remember to do the ca save all afterwards. Try that and see if the key
changes again after a reload. 

As far as I remember (rather rusty here), the RSA key pair is saved to some
other memory on the PIX (anyone correct me if I am wrong)

As for your IPSec question - are you using certificates or preshared keys.
If you are using certificates, then I think it is the same key - depends on
how you set it up originally (There are 2 key type - general and special) if
you never specified this, then a general key is created.

let us know how it goes

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Jens von B|low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 February 2003 14:06
To: Andrew Larkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed
[7:62743]


That is what I suspect or perhaps an overzealous engineer.

Does one specify the RSA key for SSH (is it the same as the one for the
IPSEC stuff)

How would one change such a thing? I don't remember having to ever create
one during the initial installation?

PS: I rebooted the box and noticed that the key once again changed - could
this problem be as a result of a corrupt flash card?



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From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62743]

This means that someone changed the rsa key on the PIX and that is only
became active after the reboot.
Verify with your guys that they changed nothing - otherwise it could be a
sort of attack




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RE: CiscoView and HP OpenView [7:62748]

2003-02-10 Thread David C Prall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 I have the following inquiries and need some advise :

 1) Does CiscoView supports voice port ?
 2) How many devices can CiscoView supports ?
 3) Can CiscoView support non-Cisco product ?

Can HP OpenView performs all task that CiscoView do ?

 thanks in advance.



 regards
 Jimmy


CiscoView is a single device manager. There is CiscoView that comes with
CiscoWorks CDOne, and an embedded version that is available on most Catalyst
products in images with CV. It is a web based view of the device in
question, that allows monitoring and configuration.

In a multi-vendor environment HP OpenView would be required, none of the
CiscoWorks Management products are multi-vendor. Although the CiscoWorks
products can enhance HP OpenView.


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RE: BGP help needed., [7:62736]

2003-02-10 Thread p b
Don't have any gear to test this on, but what if you
put a network 1.1.1.1 mask 255.255.255.255 in your
AS 200--AS300 eBGP peer?   The route received from AS100
will populate the routing table and thus cause AS200's
network statement to be satisfied and thus advertised.
This may make 1.1.1.1 to appear, at AS300, to originate
from both AS100 and AS200...


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RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62752]

2003-02-10 Thread Andrew Larkins
My RSA keys never change during reload etc.
Based on that I get the feeling that someone(engineer) changed something and
told no-one. Just my 2 cents

-Original Message-
From: Jens von B|low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 February 2003 15:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed
[7:62749]


Andrew,

Of interest is that the RSA key was generated sometime after my reboot of
the router. It looks like PDM (because this was the only way I could access
the device) created a new key for me or at some point... Not sure when...

Anyway, I ca zeroize rsa, ca generate rsa key and ca save alled my ca
stuff.

It now behaves as expected through a reboot.

One question though? How do I trust my PIX again? (FWIW - We archive the
configs of the PIX on a regular basis and the config hasn't changed)

Anybody else ever seen their ca configs break during a power cycle?

Regards
Jens


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 10 February 2003 02:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62747]

The RSA key pair is generated when you want to enable SSH access to the unit
Command for this is  ca generate rsa key . You need to have
configured the hostname and domain name before using this command.

remember to do the ca save all afterwards. Try that and see if the key
changes again after a reload. 

As far as I remember (rather rusty here), the RSA key pair is saved to some
other memory on the PIX (anyone correct me if I am wrong)

As for your IPSec question - are you using certificates or preshared keys.
If you are using certificates, then I think it is the same key - depends on
how you set it up originally (There are 2 key type - general and special) if
you never specified this, then a general key is created.

let us know how it goes

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Jens von B|low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 February 2003 14:06
To: Andrew Larkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed
[7:62743]


That is what I suspect or perhaps an overzealous engineer.

Does one specify the RSA key for SSH (is it the same as the one for the
IPSEC stuff)

How would one change such a thing? I don't remember having to ever create
one during the initial installation?

PS: I rebooted the box and noticed that the key once again changed - could
this problem be as a result of a corrupt flash card?



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 10 February 2003 01:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ssh - warning: remote host identification has changed [7:62743]

This means that someone changed the rsa key on the PIX and that is only
became active after the reboot.
Verify with your guys that they changed nothing - otherwise it could be a
sort of attack




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread timothy thielen
I think something is being lost in the translation...
This confuses me, too.

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RE: URGENT Frame Relay Encapsulation Failing [7:62614]

2003-02-10 Thread timothy thielen
When studying for the CCIE with friends, we decided that if you forget the
broadcast keyword, the terrorists win.

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AUX port and modems [7:62755]

2003-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need to connect to the AUX port using a modem. The only problem is that I
do not want to use an external telephone line. Is there a way to simulate :

  host--modemAUX (router)

Where can I find the information?

Thanks in advance.
MO




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CCIE Lab - I have seen he future and it is..... we [7:62756]

2003-02-10 Thread The Long and Winding Road
Been spending this weekend on what was once the Cisco Advanced SE Training
( ASET ) set of labs. These are available for those whose Cisco account team
approves - there are a few conditions which can be found in the wee places
of certification training.

The program is run by Lab Gear ( the only link I have is www.labgear.net,
but
this is a login page ) There are a number of labs of CCIE level, look, and
feel.

Supposed to be real equipment, but the access is via java script windows,
not terminal emulation. This makes for some interesting situations. The
windows show or provide output only when they are active. So if you had two
router sessions open, and you made changes on one router that would generate
systems messages of one sort or another you would not see those messages on
the other. also, I have yet to find a way to generate output from debugging
commands. Things like term mon and logging of one kind or another have not
been successful. so no debug ip routing and debug ip ospf adj.

As with the real lab, there are a series of tasks to be completed. Grading
is done via a script.  This is the point of most interest. Actually, I
suspect a lot of the current CCIE Lab grading is done using scripting tools.
I believe the proctors still physically examine equipment configurations for
some things, but I could be wrong.

It is of interest because to judge from the script outputs I am seeing,
there appears to be an assumption that there is one and only one way to do
things. I'm not sure this is always true. I am not sure that this results in
an entirely accurate grade.

But more importantly, given my experience with the java consoles and the
manner in which these labs must be done, I am not sure I like where this is
headed. Something Brian Dennis and Brad Ellis and some other people started
talking about back when the CCIE Lab went from two days to one - something
about the longer term goal being to do the test remotely, and having people
show up at Sylvan or some other testing center and log in remotely.

If the Lab Gear approach is any indication, this is not ready for real live
testing. I experienced far too many problems with terminal ( javascript )
sessions disconnecting mysteriously. With 8 open windows, it sometimes got
to be very hard to find the session ( router ) I was looking for. Cut and
paste is a real pain. You have to open a scratchpad window, which is
associated with the javascript console window. cutting and pasting is done
to this wind. there are scratchpad windows associated with each java wind,
so if you had a scratchpad open for every router session, that makes for a
LOT of junk to fight your way through looking for what you want. then there
is the problem of actually moving what you want to copy and paste. highlight
and control c control v or alt e paste don't work. you have to click on
buttons on the java consoles to copy to and from routers.

beyond that, there is the problems of whether or not the script answer is
the right answer. For example, in one lab, a particular instruction requires
that the rip routers on a particular segment have to use the neighbor
statement to see eachother ( and prevent other routers on that segment from
joining into the RIP domain ) well, the problem is, one of those routers is
connected to another RIP router via a different interface. need a neighbor
statement there too, but the script does not cover this, nor does the answer
configuration show this.

anyway, I have seen the future, and the CCIE Lab future looks like it may be
heading to these kinds of remote lab settings.

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RE: Password recovery [7:62738]

2003-02-10 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
Try the following Break into router, next copy start to run, change
password, copy run to start, change config register back. 

Daniel Ladrach
CCNP, CCNA
WorldCom



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Hi

I need to recover the password for a CISCO 2611 without wiping the
config?

Any idea's?

Philip




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Re: E3 bandwidth issue. [7:62740]

2003-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at CAR





Router Kid @groupstudy.com em 10/02/2003 08:22:44

Favor responder a Router Kid 

Enviado Por:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Para:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Assunto:E3 bandwidth issue. [7:62740]


If a client were to take an E3 (T3) would they be able to cap/restrict the
bandwidth at lets say 20Mbps? could something be done to the router to
allow
this?


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Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread John Murphy
If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think your answer is
yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the circuit.  Unless
you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only one), then the
answer might not be the same.


- Original Message -
From: Monu Sekhon 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]


 Hi All,
 I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on serial interfaces
 among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on serial with
 Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.


 My topology is like this

 Client router server router(connected back to back)
   2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces


 these routers connected back to back


 configuration
 int serial 0/0
 encap hdlc
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

 int serial 0/1
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 encap hdlc



 now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given duplicate ip among
 themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
 and i am able to ping remote side.



 The ques is that

 1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial interface
 doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback

 2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it has

 Does this type of design can be used,

 This is small thing is confusing me about ip.

 Thanx  in advance




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Walker, James - Is
Only problem is which side are you pinging




-Original Message-
From: John Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]


If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think your answer is
yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the circuit.  Unless
you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only one), then the
answer might not be the same.


- Original Message -
From: Monu Sekhon 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]


 Hi All,
 I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on serial interfaces
 among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on serial with
 Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.


 My topology is like this

 Client router server router(connected back to back)
   2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces


 these routers connected back to back


 configuration
 int serial 0/0
 encap hdlc
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

 int serial 0/1
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 encap hdlc



 now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given duplicate ip among
 themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
 and i am able to ping remote side.



 The ques is that

 1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial interface
 doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback

 2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it has

 Does this type of design can be used,

 This is small thing is confusing me about ip.

 Thanx  in advance




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PIX firewall [7:62761]

2003-02-10 Thread hanan
Hello

Could you please tell me in the PIX Cisco firewall their clients need to be
firewall clients or not?

Hanan




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Monu Sekhon
Hi All,
Thanx again for all for contribution
confusion still there ,
I am pinging remote side and I am able too.
any comments from all(still confused with answers)

Walker, James - Is wrote:
 
 Only problem is which side are you pinging
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
 
 
 If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think your
 answer is
 yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the
 circuit.  Unless
 you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only one),
 then the
 answer might not be the same.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Monu Sekhon 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
 Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
 
 
  Hi All,
  I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on
 serial interfaces
  among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on
 serial with
  Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.
 
 
  My topology is like this
 
  Client router server router(connected back to back)
2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces
 
 
  these routers connected back to back
 
 
  configuration
  int serial 0/0
  encap hdlc
  ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 
  int serial 0/1
  ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  encap hdlc
 
 
 
  now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given
 duplicate ip among
  themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
  and i am able to ping remote side.
 
 
 
  The ques is that
 
  1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial
 interface
  doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback
 
  2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it
 has
 
  Does this type of design can be used,
 
  This is small thing is confusing me about ip.
 
  Thanx  in advance
 
 




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CCIE Written Prep [7:62763]

2003-02-10 Thread Nguyen, David
I'm preparing for the written, any last minute advice on the new test?

David




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Why disable cdp for back-to-back serial connection? [7:62764]

2003-02-10 Thread Lawrence Law
Dear all,


From cisco configuration example

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk713/tk317/technologies_configuration_examp
le09186a00800944ff.shtml

I'm wondering that the line no cdp enable is required for both router
in order to make a serial connection up for back-to-back connection.

Regards,
Lawrence




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
If you ping you are probably pinging the Local IP.Try debug ip icmp to
verify what you are pinging.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNP, CCNA
WorldCom



-Original Message-
From: Monu Sekhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]


Hi All,
Thanx again for all for contribution
confusion still there ,
I am pinging remote side and I am able too.
any comments from all(still confused with answers)

Walker, James - Is wrote:
 
 Only problem is which side are you pinging
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
 
 
 If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think your
 answer is
 yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the
 circuit.  Unless
 you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only one),
 then the
 answer might not be the same.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Monu Sekhon 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
 Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
 
 
  Hi All,
  I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on
 serial interfaces
  among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on
 serial with
  Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.
 
 
  My topology is like this
 
  Client router server router(connected back to back)
2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces
 
 
  these routers connected back to back
 
 
  configuration
  int serial 0/0
  encap hdlc
  ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 
  int serial 0/1
  ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  encap hdlc
 
 
 
  now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given
 duplicate ip among
  themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
  and i am able to ping remote side.
 
 
 
  The ques is that
 
  1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial
 interface
  doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback
 
  2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it
 has
 
  Does this type of design can be used,
 
  This is small thing is confusing me about ip.
 
  Thanx  in advance




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RE: Why disable cdp for back-to-back serial connection [7:62764]

2003-02-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Cisco Discovery Protocol (CDP) is a managment protocol that allows routers
and switches to tell each other about their IOS version, hardware platform,
and basic config info. Some security experts say to disable it because it
tells too much.

It has nothing to do with bringing the serial interface up/up. You could use
it or you could not. The two routers on the HDLC link don't have to agree.
One could send CDP while the other doesn't and the link should still come
up/up, assuming everything is OK at the physical and data-link layers.

It's too bad they used no cdp enable in that simple example with no
explanation. I don't think it's the default? So someone had to type it in,
so they should have explained it.

Priscilla


Lawrence Law wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 
 From cisco configuration example
 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk713/tk317/technologies_configuration_examp
 le09186a00800944ff.shtml
 
 I'm wondering that the line no cdp enable is required for
 both router
 in order to make a serial connection up for back-to-back
 connection.
 
 Regards,
 Lawrence
 
 




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
You can't have duplicate IP addresses anywhere. They have to be unique. The
only exceptions would be if you were doing some sort of NAT or tunneling or
something and the duplicates were hidden from each other.

You don't get an error when you try to configure it because it's a lot
harder for IOS to detect this on a serial interface than on an Ethernet
interface. On Ethernet, a Cisco router ARPs for the address you give it. If
it receives a reply, then it gives you an error and won't let you use the
address. There's no ARP in serial land.

You think you're pinging successfully, but how do you know who is really
replying?

Even if you could assign duplicate IP addresses, you shouldn't. You would
wreak havoc with all sorts of things. There's no reason to do it either. If
you're concerned with running out of addresses, just use private address.
The 10.0.0.0 network has 16 million possibilities.

Someone had to get blunt here! :-)

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www.priscilla.com




Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote:
 
 If you ping you are probably pinging the Local IP.Try debug ip
 icmp to
 verify what you are pinging.
 
 Daniel Ladrach
 CCNP, CCNA
 WorldCom
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Monu Sekhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
 
 
 Hi All,
 Thanx again for all for contribution
 confusion still there ,
 I am pinging remote side and I am able too.
 any comments from all(still confused with answers)
 
 Walker, James - Is wrote:
  
  Only problem is which side are you pinging
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: John Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
  
  
  If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think your
  answer is
  yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the
  circuit.  Unless
  you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only one),
  then the
  answer might not be the same.
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Monu Sekhon 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
  Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
  
  
   Hi All,
   I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on
  serial interfaces
   among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on
  serial with
   Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.
  
  
   My topology is like this
  
   Client router server router(connected back to back)
 2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces
  
  
   these routers connected back to back
  
  
   configuration
   int serial 0/0
   encap hdlc
   ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  
   int serial 0/1
   ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   encap hdlc
  
  
  
   now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given
  duplicate ip among
   themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
   and i am able to ping remote side.
  
  
  
   The ques is that
  
   1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial
  interface
   doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback
  
   2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it
  has
  
   Does this type of design can be used,
  
   This is small thing is confusing me about ip.
  
   Thanx  in advance
 
 




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RE: PIX firewall [7:62761]

2003-02-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
hanan wrote:
 
 Hello
 
 Could you please tell me in the PIX Cisco firewall their
 clients need to be
 firewall clients or not?

PIX isn't a client/server architecture. Firewalls generally aren't. The term
firewall client isn't used usually.

PIX is a network firewall that protects an inside network from the outside.
It examines all TCP/IP traffic, in and out. It doesn't care who is sending
the traffic. It works on any ordinary network where the clients and servers
run a variety of operating systems.

Now, if you are concerned with VPNs, then the terms client and server do get
used.

I think it's still true, though, that PIX would work with a variety of VPN
clients. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

Priscilla

 
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access-group difference [7:62769]

2003-02-10 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh
Can someone explain the difference between the following access-group
commands and the impact of each access-list binded with those interfaces?
 
 
 
 
access-list acl_in permit tcp any any
access-group acl_out in interface outside
 
and
 
Access-list acl_in permit tcp any any 
access-group acl_in in interface inside
 
Regards,
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RE: access-group difference [7:62769]

2003-02-10 Thread BJ Rice
access-list acl_in permit tcp any any - creates an access list which permits
all tcp from any source to any destination

access-group acl_out in interface outside - binds the acl_out access list to
the outside interface (for inbound traffic).  You must determine what the
acl_out access list contains before determining the impact of this
access-group command.

and 

Access-list acl_in permit tcp any any - creates an access list which permits
all tcp from any source to any destination

access-group acl_in in interface inside - binds the acl_in access list
(created above) to the outside interface (for inbound traffic).

The access-list command creates your access lists and the access-group
command binds the list to an interface.  You can have multiple access-lists
and never bind them to an interface, however you can't have an access-group
command without an associated access-list.


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RE: access-group difference [7:62769]

2003-02-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
This must be on PIX? The syntax isn't quite right for IOS.

Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
 
 Can someone explain the difference between the following
 access-group
 commands and the impact of each access-list binded with those
 interfaces?

 access-list acl_in permit tcp any any

The acl_in is just a name for the access list. You can call it anything
you want. This is permitting TCP with any source and destination address.

 access-group acl_out in interface outside

This wouldn't do anything because the name acl_out doesn't exist. Was that
a typo?

  
 and
  
 Access-list acl_in permit tcp any any 
 access-group acl_in in interface inside

PIX access lists are always for traffic coming into the specified interface,
from what I can tell. The in interface is part of the comamnd. It's not
optional. So, do you want to permit TCP traffic coming into the outside
interface, or do you want to permit TCP traffic coming into the inside
interface? Coming into refers to traffic from the connected network
entering the interface, as opposed to traffic sent by the interface, which
would be out on Cisco IOS.

Your fist example permits TCP coming into the outside interface. The second
example permits traffic coming into the inside interface.

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 Regards,
 Ismail Al-Shelh
 
 




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RE: access-group difference [7:62769]

2003-02-10 Thread BJ Rice
oops, one mistake 

I meant to say this 

access-group acl_in in interface inside - binds the acl_in access list
(created above) to the inside interface .

instead of this
access-group acl_in in interface inside - binds the acl_in access list
(created above) to the outside interface (for inbound traffic).



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Books new lab format. [7:62774]

2003-02-10 Thread Nuno Lopes
Hi all,

Anybody help me with the most complete books to prepare for the new lab
format?

In this moment i use All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Sudy Guide 2nd Edition and
Cisco CCIE Lab Practice Kit.

Are any more completing book in the field?

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Router delay/latency issue [7:62775]

2003-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terrance M. Schmitt)
Background

I have two sites connected via 2600 series routers and a
point-to-point T1.  Recently we were able to piggy-back on a faster
connection using two Pix 515's and a VPN tunnel.  I'd like to keep the
T1 for load-balancing and fault-tolerance.  To do this, the clients
have to go to the router first, because if they go to the Pix and the
link is down, the Pix won't route the requests.  

Problem

The delay going from the client to the router and then to the Pix is
quite large, yielding a throughput of about 83% of that found when
going from the client to the router across the T1.  In contrast, going
from the client to the Pix directly yields a throughput of about 130%
over the router/T1 combo.

Question

Of course, there is latency involved in going up to the router first.
But is there a way to reduce the latency on the router and/or allow
the Pix to redirect the traffic in the event that the route is
unavailable?  I understand that the Pix doesn't do routing, so I'm
thinking that it isn't, but I'm looking for suggestions.

Terry
Terrance M. Schmitt 
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Re: VPN Partial Connectivity [7:62639]

2003-02-10 Thread Dain Deutschman
VPN Terminates at the PIX. The problem ended up being that a few internal
hosts did not have thier gateway setup...also...the mail server was a Team
Internet ( appliance )...and it refused to see any other gateway other than
itself...hmmm.
 Anywaywe are providing a work around for the remote user to get his
mailbut after adding a gateway ip and static route to the novell
server...it works. And the adtran TSU had no gateway also...

Thanks for your input though..

Cheers
Albert Lu  wrote in message
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 Hi,

 You mentioned that you were doing static nat on the router, this could
 effect it if the vpn client terminates on the router. The ip addresses
that
 you have statics for is translated to the global IP address, and doesn't
go
 through your vpn, since the access-list in your crypto map doesn't
identify
 it as traffic needing to be encrypted.

 Albert

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Dain Deutschman
 Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 3:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: VPN Partial Connectivity [7:62639]


 Hi,

 When connecting a vpn via VPN Client 3.x I am able to ping only certain
 addresses...
 192.168.1.180 Server
 192.168.1.10 LAN Station

 But Not Others...
 192.168.1.1 Inside Interface Of PIX
 192.168.1.2 Mail Server
 192.168.1.3 CSU/DSU management address

 I have a vpn setup as follows:

 Vpn Client--INTERNET--1721Router--PIX--LAN

 *The 1721 router is doing static nat to the outside   interface of the
pix.
 The vpn terminates at the pix.

 *I'm using vpngroup to assign ip info to the client.

 * The LAN ip scheme is 192.168.1.0/24 where the first 9 addresses are left
 out of the local dhcp pool

 *The vpn client is getting assigned from local-pool range 192.168.2.1-50

 *I have a route on the pix route inside 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0
 192.168.1.1

 *The inside interface of the pix is 192.168.1.1

 Here is my config...

 PIX(config)# wr t
 Building configuration...
 : Saved
 :
 PIX Version 6.2(2)
 nameif ethernet0 outside security0
 nameif ethernet1 inside security100
 enable password encrypted
 passwd encrypted
 hostname PIX
 fixup protocol ftp 21
 fixup protocol http 80
 fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
 fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719
 fixup protocol ils 389
 fixup protocol rsh 514
 fixup protocol rtsp 554
 fixup protocol smtp 25
 fixup protocol sqlnet 1521
 fixup protocol sip 5060
 fixup protocol skinny 2000
 names
 access-list 101 permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.0
 255.255.255.0
 pager lines 24
 interface ethernet0 10baset
 interface ethernet1 10baset
 mtu outside 1500
 mtu inside 1500
 ip address outside 172.16.2.2 255.255.255.240
 ip address inside 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip audit info action alarm
 ip audit attack action alarm
 ip local pool NEWMEX 192.168.2.1-192.168.2.50
 pdm history enable
 arp timeout 14400
 global (outside) 1 172.16.2.3
 nat (inside) 0 access-list 101
 nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
 conduit permit icmp any any echo-reply
 conduit permit icmp any any echo
 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.16.2.1 1
 route inside 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 1
 timeout xlate 3:00:00
 timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323
 0:05:00 si
 p 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00
 timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute
 aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+
 aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius
 aaa-server LOCAL protocol local
 no snmp-server location
 no snmp-server contact
 snmp-server community public
 no snmp-server enable traps
 floodguard enable
 sysopt connection permit-ipsec
 no sysopt route dnat
 crypto ipsec transform-set myset esp-3des esp-sha-hmac
 crypto dynamic-map dynmap 10 set transform-set myset
 crypto map mymap 1 ipsec-isakmp dynamic dynmap
 crypto map mymap interface outside
 isakmp enable outside
 isakmp identity address
 isakmp policy 10 authentication pre-share
 isakmp policy 10 encryption 3des
 isakmp policy 10 hash sha
 isakmp policy 10 group 2
 isakmp policy 10 lifetime 86400
 vpngroup vpn address-pool NEWMEX
 vpngroup vpn dns-server x.x.x.y x.x.x.z
 vpngroup vpn default-domain domain.com
 vpngroup vpn split-tunnel 101
 vpngroup vpn idle-time 1800
 vpngroup vpn password
 telnet timeout 5
 ssh timeout 5
 dhcpd address 192.168.1.10-192.168.1.42 inside
 dhcpd lease 3600
 dhcpd ping_timeout 750
 dhcpd enable inside
 terminal width 80
 Cryptochecksum:a71ebfc24ae

 Any ideas?? I'm sort of stumped at this point. Thanks!

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 CCNP, CSS-1, CCNA, MCP, CNA
 Data Communications Manager




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CCIE Study group in Chicago? [7:62777]

2003-02-10 Thread Nguyen, David
Any CCIE study groups here in the Chicago area?

Regards,

David




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Dynamic MultiPoint VPN [7:62779]

2003-02-10 Thread Richard Tufaro
Hi, im posting to inquire about the new feature introduced in rev
12.2(13)T1 called DMVPN.

Has anyone had any experience configuring it? Good, bad?

I have a scenario where im about to deploy 36 1760 bundles
(CISCO1760-VPN/K9) with some 2611XM's and a 7204 at the hub connected to
a DS3.

We are going to be using the full CiscoWorks package, including VMS for
administration.

So the scenario plays out like this:

36 sites (1760's (with VPN mods) 2611XM's (with VPN mods), All remote
sites have 6 usable Internet routable IP's, hub site has a 7204 and
2611XM, the 7204 has a DS3, 2611XM has 2 T1's, HUB site running BGP
advertising 2 class C's. All remote office connections will be dumped
into a DMZ and ACL'ed to the internal network (PIX is the firewall).

Comments questions? Advice? Welcome.

--Rich




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Re: CCIE Lab - I have seen he future and it is.... [7:62776]

2003-02-10 Thread Charles Riley
Chuck,

Your post reminds me of those weird little ice cream stands that I sometimes
see at the mall and various carnivals.  It's called something like Dipping
Dots - The Ice Cream of the Future.  The initial human instinct is much
like the Cro-Magnon humanoids encountering the monolith  at the beginning of
2001: A Space Odyssey (sp):  jump up and down with excitement until you
realize it's just freeze dried ice cream.

Rounding out that analogy, the CCIE of the future will probably be reduced
to being the CCNP of today.  Regardless, I have spent too much time and
money to abandon the quest for CCIE now, but frankly, if I hadn't invested
as much as I have, I would most likely abandon the quest in favor of
broadening into other areas.  I really don't see much market value for the
CCIE anymore, especially with Cisco hellbent on making it a meatgrinding
cash cow. Your java console and one way only to configure experience kind
of bears this out.

Sorry for the depressing post, just wanted to share.

Charles





The Long and Winding Road  wrote in
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 Been spending this weekend on what was once the Cisco Advanced SE Training
 ( ASET ) set of labs. These are available for those whose Cisco account
team
 approves - there are a few conditions which can be found in the wee places
 of certification training.

 The program is run by Lab Gear ( the only link I have is www.labgear.net,
 but
 this is a login page ) There are a number of labs of CCIE level, look, and
 feel.

 Supposed to be real equipment, but the access is via java script windows,
 not terminal emulation. This makes for some interesting situations. The
 windows show or provide output only when they are active. So if you had
two
 router sessions open, and you made changes on one router that would
generate
 systems messages of one sort or another you would not see those messages
on
 the other. also, I have yet to find a way to generate output from
debugging
 commands. Things like term mon and logging of one kind or another have not
 been successful. so no debug ip routing and debug ip ospf adj.

 As with the real lab, there are a series of tasks to be completed. Grading
 is done via a script.  This is the point of most interest. Actually, I
 suspect a lot of the current CCIE Lab grading is done using scripting
tools.
 I believe the proctors still physically examine equipment configurations
for
 some things, but I could be wrong.

 It is of interest because to judge from the script outputs I am seeing,
 there appears to be an assumption that there is one and only one way to do
 things. I'm not sure this is always true. I am not sure that this results
in
 an entirely accurate grade.

 But more importantly, given my experience with the java consoles and the
 manner in which these labs must be done, I am not sure I like where this
is
 headed. Something Brian Dennis and Brad Ellis and some other people
started
 talking about back when the CCIE Lab went from two days to one - something
 about the longer term goal being to do the test remotely, and having
people
 show up at Sylvan or some other testing center and log in remotely.

 If the Lab Gear approach is any indication, this is not ready for real
live
 testing. I experienced far too many problems with terminal ( javascript )
 sessions disconnecting mysteriously. With 8 open windows, it sometimes got
 to be very hard to find the session ( router ) I was looking for. Cut and
 paste is a real pain. You have to open a scratchpad window, which is
 associated with the javascript console window. cutting and pasting is done
 to this wind. there are scratchpad windows associated with each java wind,
 so if you had a scratchpad open for every router session, that makes for a
 LOT of junk to fight your way through looking for what you want. then
there
 is the problem of actually moving what you want to copy and paste.
highlight
 and control c control v or alt e paste don't work. you have to click on
 buttons on the java consoles to copy to and from routers.

 beyond that, there is the problems of whether or not the script answer
is
 the right answer. For example, in one lab, a particular instruction
requires
 that the rip routers on a particular segment have to use the neighbor
 statement to see eachother ( and prevent other routers on that segment
from
 joining into the RIP domain ) well, the problem is, one of those routers
is
 connected to another RIP router via a different interface. need a neighbor
 statement there too, but the script does not cover this, nor does the
answer
 configuration show this.

 anyway, I have seen the future, and the CCIE Lab future looks like it may
be
 heading to these kinds of remote lab settings.

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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:18 PM 2/10/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
You can't have duplicate IP addresses anywhere. They have to be unique. The
only exceptions would be if you were doing some sort of NAT or tunneling or
something and the duplicates were hidden from each other.

You don't get an error when you try to configure it because it's a lot
harder for IOS to detect this on a serial interface than on an Ethernet
interface. On Ethernet, a Cisco router ARPs for the address you give it. If
it receives a reply, then it gives you an error and won't let you use the
address. There's no ARP in serial land.

You think you're pinging successfully, but how do you know who is really
replying?

Even if you could assign duplicate IP addresses, you shouldn't. You would
wreak havoc with all sorts of things. There's no reason to do it either. If
you're concerned with running out of addresses, just use private address.
The 10.0.0.0 network has 16 million possibilities.

For what it's worth, duplicating the same IP across a set of DNS servers in 
the same AS can provide an interesting spin on resiliency.  So long as you 
configure unique IP's for normal communication.  This sort of thing works 
good for protocols that are stateless (UDP DNS)

Anycast-RP in PIM networks also uses the same IP on multiple boxes :-)

Someone had to get blunt here! :-)

Someone had to split some hair !



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Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote:
 
  If you ping you are probably pinging the Local IP.Try debug ip
  icmp to
  verify what you are pinging.
 
  Daniel Ladrach
  CCNP, CCNA
  WorldCom
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Monu Sekhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
 
 
  Hi All,
  Thanx again for all for contribution
  confusion still there ,
  I am pinging remote side and I am able too.
  any comments from all(still confused with answers)
 
  Walker, James - Is wrote:
  
   Only problem is which side are you pinging
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: John Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
  
  
   If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think your
   answer is
   yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the
   circuit.  Unless
   you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only one),
   then the
   answer might not be the same.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Monu Sekhon
   To:
   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
   Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
  
  
Hi All,
I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on
   serial interfaces
among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip on
   serial with
Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.
   
   
My topology is like this
   
Client router server router(connected back to back)
  2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces
   
   
these routers connected back to back
   
   
configuration
int serial 0/0
encap hdlc
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   
int serial 0/1
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
encap hdlc
   
   
   
now if all the two interfaces of serial even if given
   duplicate ip among
themselves works fine. no error from cli .interfaces are up
and i am able to ping remote side.
   
   
   
The ques is that
   
1) Lan interface also was in different subnet but serial
   interface
doesnot accept that ips as duplicate or of loopback
   
2)What Implication such have on my design ,any limitation it
   has
   
Does this type of design can be used,
   
This is small thing is confusing me about ip.
   
Thanx  in advance




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Re: Any help appreciated - Router will not route.... [7:62568]

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Campbell
Hmm, I don't think the problem lies with the ISDN or its capabiltiy to dial,
as DW mentioned, pings are possible from router to router, so a route is
possible, just not from the LAN.
possibly a better debug would be debug ip icmp an then run either extended
pings from the Fast Ether, or from the client on the LAN.
HTH
Keith
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 I'd check the isdn stuf, deb dialer, deb isdn q931, etc...

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  When the primary is up the route table shows:
 
   192.1.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
  S   192.1.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0:1
  C   192.1.1.25/32 is directly connected, Serial0/0:1
 
  When the primary goes down it shows:
 
  192.1.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
  S   192.1.1.0/24 is directly connected, BRI1/1
  C   192.1.1.25/32 is directly connected, BRI1/1
 
  This is why I don't understand why it will not work !!
 
  Thanks,
 
  Derek
 
 
 
   wrote in message
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   What does your route table show on both routers?
  
   Mark
  
I have a 3640 router (Pri rate Interface / backup ISDN interfaces)
 that
  is
not performing as I thought it would...One of the channelised
 interfaces
went down yesterday and the backup ISDN for that line kicked in,
 however
  I
could no longer ping into the remote site once the backup came up -
 The
remote router is a 1720.
I could ping from router to router (In both directions).
I could not ping from a client in Site A to router in Site B, or
 beyond.
I could not ping from a client in Site B to router in Site A, or
 beyond.
   
Below is part of the config:
   
SITE A - 3640
   
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 192.168.25.25 255.255.255.0
   
 duplex auto
   
 speed 100
   
 no cdp enable
   
   
interface Serial0/0:1
   
 bandwidth 128
   
 backup delay 20 20
   
 backup interface BRI1/1
   
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
   
 no ip directed-broadcast
   
 encapsulation ppp
   
 fair-queue 64 256 0
   
 no cdp enable
   
   
   
interface BRI1/1
   
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
   
 no ip directed-broadcast
   
 encapsulation ppp
   
 dialer idle-timeout 300
   
 dialer string 
   
 dialer hold-queue 20
   
 dialer-group 1
   
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
   
 no cdp enable
   
 ppp authentication chap
   
   
   
ip route 192.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0/0:1
   
ip route 192.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 BRI1/1 50
   
   
   
access-list 100 permit ip any any
   
access-list 100 permit icmp any any
   
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 100
   
   
   
SITE B - 1720
   
   
   
interface BRI0
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 300
 dialer string XXX
   
 dialer hold-queue 50
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
!
interface FastEthernet0
 ip address 192.1.1.25 255.255.255.0
 speed auto
!
interface Serial0
 bandwidth 128
 backup delay 20 20
 backup interface BRI0
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
!
ip classless
ip route 192.168.25.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0
ip route 192.168.25.0 255.255.255.0 BRI0 50
no ip http server
!
access-list 100 permit ip any any
access-list 100 permit icmp any any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 100
   
   
   
Can anyone out there see anything obviously wrong with the above
  config
   
   
   
Thanks in advance.
   
   
   
Derek




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Re: CCIE Study group in Chicago? [7:62777]

2003-02-10 Thread Chris Theiss
I'd be interested in joining one, or forming a new one.

Nguyen, David wrote:
 Any CCIE study groups here in the Chicago area?
 
 Regards,
 
 David
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Re: Forwarding traffic on port 80 [7:62723]

2003-02-10 Thread Jose Canillas
Did you check the commands ip nat outside and ip nat inside on the
corresponding interfaces?

I missed them more than once

Regards,

Jose

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 I am looking for the command to forward traffic to port 80 from the
outside
 public address to an inside private address on a 2514. This should do the
 trick but does not seem to be working


 ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.4 80 68.85.x.x 80 extendable

 Any one have any other suggestions?
 thx
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BGP exam study recommendations [7:62784]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter Walker
Folks

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for BGP study. I am
booked in for the BGP beta exam on Friday and still dont feel
comfortable with my level of BGP knowledge.  I have read the following 
over the last few months 

Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures.
Doyle Vol 2 (BGP sections)
John Stewart III (BGP4 book)
William Parkhurst (The RFC stuff at the back 
and some of the command reference)

I am going to go back and reread some of Halabi, all of the Parkhurst
command reference chapters and probably some of the RFCs.

Does anyone have any additional 'must-read' references that I should
look at before Friday? I realise that I have all the basic info that I
need and, to be honest, feel that I could pass the test already. However
I am one of those people that want to understand things at the
gut/instinct level and I really dont feel that I am at that point yet.

Any other suggestions?

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CC[NID]P, etc




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RE: CCIE Study group in Chicago? [7:62777]

2003-02-10 Thread Fernandez, Tim
Hey, what about a CCNP Study Group in Chicago?

Timothy B. Fernandez
Network Technician
Technical Operations New York 2
Thomson Financial




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I'd be interested in joining one, or forming a new one.

Nguyen, David wrote:
 Any CCIE study groups here in the Chicago area?
 
 Regards,
 
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RE: Any help appreciated - Router will not route.... [7:62568]

2003-02-10 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
Do you have a traceroute at where it died at?

Daniel Ladrach
CCNP, CCNA
WorldCom



-Original Message-
From: Keith Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any help appreciated - Router will not route [7:62568]


Hmm, I don't think the problem lies with the ISDN or its capabiltiy to dial,
as DW mentioned, pings are possible from router to router, so a route is
possible, just not from the LAN.
possibly a better debug would be debug ip icmp an then run either extended
pings from the Fast Ether, or from the client on the LAN.
HTH
Keith
Juntao  wrote in message
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 I'd check the isdn stuf, deb dialer, deb isdn q931, etc...

 DW  a icrit dans le message de news:
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  When the primary is up the route table shows:
 
   192.1.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
  S   192.1.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0:1
  C   192.1.1.25/32 is directly connected, Serial0/0:1
 
  When the primary goes down it shows:
 
  192.1.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
  S   192.1.1.0/24 is directly connected, BRI1/1
  C   192.1.1.25/32 is directly connected, BRI1/1
 
  This is why I don't understand why it will not work !!
 
  Thanks,
 
  Derek
 
 
 
   wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   What does your route table show on both routers?
  
   Mark
  
I have a 3640 router (Pri rate Interface / backup ISDN interfaces)
 that
  is
not performing as I thought it would...One of the channelised
 interfaces
went down yesterday and the backup ISDN for that line kicked in,
 however
  I
could no longer ping into the remote site once the backup came up -
 The
remote router is a 1720.
I could ping from router to router (In both directions).
I could not ping from a client in Site A to router in Site B, or
 beyond.
I could not ping from a client in Site B to router in Site A, or
 beyond.
   
Below is part of the config:
   
SITE A - 3640
   
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 192.168.25.25 255.255.255.0
   
 duplex auto
   
 speed 100
   
 no cdp enable
   
   
interface Serial0/0:1
   
 bandwidth 128
   
 backup delay 20 20
   
 backup interface BRI1/1
   
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
   
 no ip directed-broadcast
   
 encapsulation ppp
   
 fair-queue 64 256 0
   
 no cdp enable
   
   
   
interface BRI1/1
   
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
   
 no ip directed-broadcast
   
 encapsulation ppp
   
 dialer idle-timeout 300
   
 dialer string 
   
 dialer hold-queue 20
   
 dialer-group 1
   
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
   
 no cdp enable
   
 ppp authentication chap
   
   
   
ip route 192.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0/0:1
   
ip route 192.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 BRI1/1 50
   
   
   
access-list 100 permit ip any any
   
access-list 100 permit icmp any any
   
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 100
   
   
   
SITE B - 1720
   
   
   
interface BRI0
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 300
 dialer string XXX
   
 dialer hold-queue 50
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
!
interface FastEthernet0
 ip address 192.1.1.25 255.255.255.0
 speed auto
!
interface Serial0
 bandwidth 128
 backup delay 20 20
 backup interface BRI0
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
!
ip classless
ip route 192.168.25.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0
ip route 192.168.25.0 255.255.255.0 BRI0 50
no ip http server
!
access-list 100 permit ip any any
access-list 100 permit icmp any any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 100
   
   
   
Can anyone out there see anything obviously wrong with the above
  config
   
   
   
Thanks in advance.
   
   
   
Derek




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
No problem with the splitting of hairs. :-)

I have been wondering why Cisco lets you do what the original poster is
doing, which most of us misunderstood. He is using the same IP address on 2
serial interfaces on the SAME router.

If you try to use the same IP address on two Ethernet interfaces, you just
get an error when you try to configure the second Ethernet interface.

With two serial interfaces, you don't get an error. Is this just an
oversight? There are many such oversights in Cisco IOS. :-) Or maybe there
is a real reason to do it.

I said in my original message that there's no ARP on serial interfaces so
the router can't easily figure out if anyone else is using its address like
it does on Ethernet. On Ethernet the router can send an ARP to see if
someone else replies. But that's someone else on the LAN connected to the
interface, not another interface on the same router.

So, if it gives you an error on Ethernet when you use an address you have
already used on another Ethernet interface, why doesn't it give you an error
for serial interfaces? Maybe there's an actual technical reason, although
probably it's just an oversight.

By the way, it lets you configure an Ethernet interface to use an address
already in use on a serial interface, but if you try to do it in the other
order then you get an error. That's probably just another oversight.

Cisco has always given you enough rope to hang yourself. Decent error
messages have never been any more important than ease-of-use. :-)

Priscilla

Peter van Oene wrote:
 
 At 06:18 PM 2/10/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 You can't have duplicate IP addresses anywhere. They have to
 be unique. The
 only exceptions would be if you were doing some sort of NAT or
 tunneling or
 something and the duplicates were hidden from each other.
 
 You don't get an error when you try to configure it because
 it's a lot
 harder for IOS to detect this on a serial interface than on an
 Ethernet
 interface. On Ethernet, a Cisco router ARPs for the address
 you give it. If
 it receives a reply, then it gives you an error and won't let
 you use the
 address. There's no ARP in serial land.
 
 You think you're pinging successfully, but how do you know who
 is really
 replying?
 
 Even if you could assign duplicate IP addresses, you
 shouldn't. You would
 wreak havoc with all sorts of things. There's no reason to do
 it either. If
 you're concerned with running out of addresses, just use
 private address.
 The 10.0.0.0 network has 16 million possibilities.
 
 For what it's worth, duplicating the same IP across a set of
 DNS servers in
 the same AS can provide an interesting spin on resiliency.  So
 long as you
 configure unique IP's for normal communication.  This sort of
 thing works
 good for protocols that are stateless (UDP DNS)
 
 Anycast-RP in PIM networks also uses the same IP on multiple
 boxes :-)
 
 Someone had to get blunt here! :-)
 
 Someone had to split some hair !
 
 
 
 ___
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
 www.priscilla.com
 
 
 
 
 Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote:
  
   If you ping you are probably pinging the Local IP.Try debug
 ip
   icmp to
   verify what you are pinging.
  
   Daniel Ladrach
   CCNP, CCNA
   WorldCom
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Monu Sekhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:03 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
  
  
   Hi All,
   Thanx again for all for contribution
   confusion still there ,
   I am pinging remote side and I am able too.
   any comments from all(still confused with answers)
  
   Walker, James - Is wrote:
   
Only problem is which side are you pinging
   
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: John Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
   
   
If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think
 your
answer is
yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the
circuit.  Unless
you've confused me (it doesn't seem I would be the only
 one),
then the
answer might not be the same.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Monu Sekhon
To:
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
   
   
 Hi All,
 I have very simple question, Can we use duplicate ips on
serial interfaces
 among them seleves although we cannot use duplicate ip
 on
serial with
 Ethernet(lan interface) or loopback interface.


 My topology is like this

 Client router server router(connected back to back)
   2 interfaces   2 inetrfaces


 these routers connected back to back


 configuration
 int serial 0/0
 encap hdlc
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

 int serial 

Re: MPEG Filesharing Traffic [7:62742]

2003-02-10 Thread Amazing
check this out

http://www.packeteer.com/products/packetshaper/


Christian Seemueller  wrote in message
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 Hello,

 has anybody an idea, how to filter the new Media-Sharing-Tools like Kazaa
 V.2.02, which ist tunneling it's data over an individual TCP-Port or Port
 80. The pix would only filter to OSI-Level 5 i guess.
 I tried to filter the whole subnet of kazaa.com, but this won't work well.

 Any ideas welcome.
 Chris




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RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:20 AM 2/11/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
No problem with the splitting of hairs. :-)

I have been wondering why Cisco lets you do what the original poster is
doing, which most of us misunderstood. He is using the same IP address on 2
serial interfaces on the SAME router.

Sonet APS comes to mind?  I usually use a /29 with 4 addresses, but you 
could use the same address.

If you try to use the same IP address on two Ethernet interfaces, you just
get an error when you try to configure the second Ethernet interface.

I can't think of a practical use for this myself.

With two serial interfaces, you don't get an error. Is this just an
oversight? There are many such oversights in Cisco IOS. :-) Or maybe there
is a real reason to do it.

The more I think about it (over the last two paragraphs of your msg) the 
more APS seems the likely candidate. If you couldn't, this would be 
restrictive in some cases.  Of course I'm thinking APS capable interfaces.

I said in my original message that there's no ARP on serial interfaces so
the router can't easily figure out if anyone else is using its address like
it does on Ethernet. On Ethernet the router can send an ARP to see if
someone else replies. But that's someone else on the LAN connected to the
interface, not another interface on the same router.

So, if it gives you an error on Ethernet when you use an address you have
already used on another Ethernet interface, why doesn't it give you an error
for serial interfaces? Maybe there's an actual technical reason, although
probably it's just an oversight.

By the way, it lets you configure an Ethernet interface to use an address
already in use on a serial interface, but if you try to do it in the other
order then you get an error. That's probably just another oversight.

Would agree here.  Might be something to do with internal mechanisms to map 
macs to IPs.  Ie, if an interface is added, check the mac/ip binding list 
for duplicates and error if there is one.  Such a mechanism wouldn't be 
relevant in SONET and for the APS reasoning, it may be expected that some 
interfaces share the same address.

Cisco has always given you enough rope to hang yourself. Decent error
messages have never been any more important than ease-of-use. :-)

Priscilla

Peter van Oene wrote:
 
  At 06:18 PM 2/10/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  You can't have duplicate IP addresses anywhere. They have to
  be unique. The
  only exceptions would be if you were doing some sort of NAT or
  tunneling or
  something and the duplicates were hidden from each other.
  
  You don't get an error when you try to configure it because
  it's a lot
  harder for IOS to detect this on a serial interface than on an
  Ethernet
  interface. On Ethernet, a Cisco router ARPs for the address
  you give it. If
  it receives a reply, then it gives you an error and won't let
  you use the
  address. There's no ARP in serial land.
  
  You think you're pinging successfully, but how do you know who
  is really
  replying?
  
  Even if you could assign duplicate IP addresses, you
  shouldn't. You would
  wreak havoc with all sorts of things. There's no reason to do
  it either. If
  you're concerned with running out of addresses, just use
  private address.
  The 10.0.0.0 network has 16 million possibilities.
 
  For what it's worth, duplicating the same IP across a set of
  DNS servers in
  the same AS can provide an interesting spin on resiliency.  So
  long as you
  configure unique IP's for normal communication.  This sort of
  thing works
  good for protocols that are stateless (UDP DNS)
 
  Anycast-RP in PIM networks also uses the same IP on multiple
  boxes :-)
 
  Someone had to get blunt here! :-)
 
  Someone had to split some hair !
 
 
 
  ___
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
  www.priscilla.com
  
  
  
  
  Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote:
   
If you ping you are probably pinging the Local IP.Try debug
  ip
icmp to
verify what you are pinging.
   
Daniel Ladrach
CCNP, CCNA
WorldCom
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Monu Sekhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]
   
   
Hi All,
Thanx again for all for contribution
confusion still there ,
I am pinging remote side and I am able too.
any comments from all(still confused with answers)
   
Walker, James - Is wrote:

 Only problem is which side are you pinging




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 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:15 AM
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 Subject: Re: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]


 If you're asking what I think you're asking, then I think
  your
 answer is
 yes, but you won't be able to pass any traffic across the
  

isdn scripts.. [7:62793]

2003-02-10 Thread Rich Muller
Hello-

Anyone have a current script used to test isdn line availability?  There are 
app's available, but scripting seems to be the way to go...anyone out there 
using their own scripts to test isdn call setups etc..?

Thx!





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RE: CBAC, PPTP and NAT Interaction [7:62727]

2003-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for that.  I had read that previously and it helped somewhat.
However, my problem comes from interaction of the various technologies.

For instance, I want to use some static packet filtering to keep IP spoofing
out, denying private IPs from coming in from the outside interface, but when
I do it breaks my IPSec tunnel as it has 10 network inside and triggers the
deny 10.0.0.0 rule I have.  Now I opened the specific 10 network that I am
using inside to solve that problem, but that opens up a hole.

If I have a NAT'ed network, does the ACL get applied to the inside address
or the Outside address?

I guess there are a few other things, obviously I am going to play with it
some more and learn, I am just in search of some good information about the
subject so that I can get a good basis of knowledge.

Thanks again for your help though,

Tom

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Hi Tom!

I think this article will help you resolve your problems.
It is titled Nat Order of Operations but I think it
may be called Order of Packet Processing ;-)

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
133ddd.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/5.pdf (PDF variant of the same article)

Kind regards,
Victor




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Re: isdn scripts.. [7:62793]

2003-02-10 Thread Ronnie Higginbotham
I have written expect scripts to test connectivity.

Do you have backup interface applied or are you using dialer watch.

Ronnie
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 Anyone have a current script used to test isdn line availability?  There
are
 app's available, but scripting seems to be the way to go...anyone out
there
 using their own scripts to test isdn call setups etc..?

 Thx!





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Re: Books new lab format. [7:62774]

2003-02-10 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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 Hi all,

 Anybody help me with the most complete books to prepare for the new lab
 format?

 In this moment i use All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Sudy Guide 2nd Edition and
 Cisco CCIE Lab Practice Kit.

 Are any more completing book in the field?


just because I'm in a bad mood tonight, I'll pick a fight. nothing personal,
but I think you're misleading yourself by looking for books to prepare using
the new lab format. as if any of the books out there now were the be all and
end all for the old lab format.

there are certain core topics you HAVE to know. no matter whose books you
are reading, you have to pick out those core topics and master them. Caslow
is as good a place to start as any. Soltie is good for this.

you have to understand redistribution in all it's manifestations. the Lab
has a way of screwing you with this. and not just in the ways you see in the
various books. those lab writers are devious.

you have to know how and where to find things using the doc CD. A couple of
days ago someone asked is DVMRP in the Lab? the proper question to ask is
if a DVMRP qustion came up in the Lab, where would I find out how to
configure it?

I've offered several other books as starting points in other posts. But when
push comes to shove, all the materials out there are just starting points.
They are not magic bullits. taking a certain course, or using a certain
book, or set of practice labs is no guarantee of passing, no matter what the
sellers of those materials ( or the users, for that matter ) might say.

as you practice more and more, I assume it just starts to dawn on you how
this stuff really works. at that point you have a good shot at passing.

but don't rely on finding the perfect book, or the perfect set of practice
labs. there ain't none.

best wishes




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Re: CCIE Lab - I have seen he future and it is.... [7:62776]

2003-02-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Charles Riley wrote:

I think you may have overreacted and scared everybody away! :-)

 
 Chuck,
 

 
 Rounding out that analogy, the CCIE of the future will probably
 be reduced
 to being the CCNP of today. 

They can still make CCIE much harder than CCNP and if it is much harder, it
will be more valued (probably).

 Regardless, I have spent too much
 time and
 money to abandon the quest for CCIE now, but frankly, if I
 hadn't invested
 as much as I have, I would most likely abandon the quest in
 favor of
 broadening into other areas.  I really don't see much market
 value for the
 CCIE anymore, especially with Cisco hellbent on making it a
 meatgrinding
 cash cow.

They're just trying to save money, be more profitable. We are all trying to
do that in these awful economic times.

 Your java console and one way only to configure
 experience kind
 of bears this out.

But we don't know if it will be that bad. They could do a good job with
this, even if it is somewhat automated. They've got some really smart people
working for them.

I would say, continue with your plans (as you said you were going to) and
don't get depressed! Watch for black/white thinking, over-reacting,
generalizing etc. Those can lead to depression

Priscilla

 
 Sorry for the depressing post, just wanted to share.
 
 Charles
 
 
 
 
 
 The Long and Winding Road
  wrote in
 message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Been spending this weekend on what was once the Cisco
 Advanced SE Training
  ( ASET ) set of labs. These are available for those whose
 Cisco account
 team
  approves - there are a few conditions which can be found in
 the wee places
  of certification training.
 
  The program is run by Lab Gear ( the only link I have is
 www.labgear.net,
  but
  this is a login page ) There are a number of labs of CCIE
 level, look, and
  feel.
 
  Supposed to be real equipment, but the access is via java
 script windows,
  not terminal emulation. This makes for some interesting
 situations. The
  windows show or provide output only when they are active. So
 if you had
 two
  router sessions open, and you made changes on one router that
 would
 generate
  systems messages of one sort or another you would not see
 those messages
 on
  the other. also, I have yet to find a way to generate output
 from
 debugging
  commands. Things like term mon and logging of one kind or
 another have not
  been successful. so no debug ip routing and debug ip ospf adj.
 
  As with the real lab, there are a series of tasks to be
 completed. Grading
  is done via a script.  This is the point of most interest.
 Actually, I
  suspect a lot of the current CCIE Lab grading is done using
 scripting
 tools.
  I believe the proctors still physically examine equipment
 configurations
 for
  some things, but I could be wrong.
 
  It is of interest because to judge from the script outputs I
 am seeing,
  there appears to be an assumption that there is one and only
 one way to do
  things. I'm not sure this is always true. I am not sure that
 this results
 in
  an entirely accurate grade.
 
  But more importantly, given my experience with the java
 consoles and the
  manner in which these labs must be done, I am not sure I like
 where this
 is
  headed. Something Brian Dennis and Brad Ellis and some other
 people
 started
  talking about back when the CCIE Lab went from two days to
 one - something
  about the longer term goal being to do the test remotely, and
 having
 people
  show up at Sylvan or some other testing center and log in
 remotely.
 
  If the Lab Gear approach is any indication, this is not ready
 for real
 live
  testing. I experienced far too many problems with terminal (
 javascript )
  sessions disconnecting mysteriously. With 8 open windows, it
 sometimes got
  to be very hard to find the session ( router ) I was looking
 for. Cut and
  paste is a real pain. You have to open a scratchpad window,
 which is
  associated with the javascript console window. cutting and
 pasting is done
  to this wind. there are scratchpad windows associated with
 each java wind,
  so if you had a scratchpad open for every router session,
 that makes for a
  LOT of junk to fight your way through looking for what you
 want. then
 there
  is the problem of actually moving what you want to copy and
 paste.
 highlight
  and control c control v or alt e paste don't work. you have
 to click on
  buttons on the java consoles to copy to and from routers.
 
  beyond that, there is the problems of whether or not the
 script answer
 is
  the right answer. For example, in one lab, a particular
 instruction
 requires
  that the rip routers on a particular segment have to use the
 neighbor
  statement to see eachother ( and prevent other routers on
 that segment
 from
  joining into the RIP domain ) well, the problem is, one of
 those routers
 is
  connected to another RIP router via a different interface.
 need a neighbor
  statement there too, but the script does not 

Re: BGP exam study recommendations [7:62784]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:40 PM 2/10/2003 +, Peter Walker wrote:
Folks

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for BGP study. I am
booked in for the BGP beta exam on Friday and still dont feel
comfortable with my level of BGP knowledge.  I have read the following
over the last few months

 Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures.
 Doyle Vol 2 (BGP sections)
 John Stewart III (BGP4 book)
 William Parkhurst (The RFC stuff at the back
 and some of the command reference)

I am going to go back and reread some of Halabi, all of the Parkhurst
command reference chapters and probably some of the RFCs.

Does anyone have any additional 'must-read' references that I should
look at before Friday? I realise that I have all the basic info that I
need and, to be honest, feel that I could pass the test already. However
I am one of those people that want to understand things at the
gut/instinct level and I really dont feel that I am at that point yet.

If you read all this stuff and still don't understand BGP the way you would 
like to, more books likely aren't what you need.  I would focus more on 
hands on work.  Many folks learn better by doing than reading (me for one 
:).  If you are a Certificationzone subscriber, Howard Berkowitz has a 
three tutorial set on BGP that come with some labs to help illustrate 
points which might help.  But I'm sure just working through some configs on 
a lab while following along with your reading material might be the best bet.

Pete


Any other suggestions?

Peter Walker
 CISSP, CSS1, CC[NID]P, etc




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Re: CCIE Lab - I have seen he future and it is.... [7:62776]

2003-02-10 Thread Amazing
actually, i think you have it backwardsthe CCNP of tomorrow will be the
CCIE of todayCCC tests are getting harder...the bar is being raised

if what you state is truly the way you truly feel, then you were in pursuit
of the CCIE for the wrong reason in the first place.

sorry you're so depressed.


Charles Riley  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Chuck,

 Your post reminds me of those weird little ice cream stands that I
sometimes
 see at the mall and various carnivals.  It's called something like
Dipping
 Dots - The Ice Cream of the Future.  The initial human instinct is much
 like the Cro-Magnon humanoids encountering the monolith  at the beginning
of
 2001: A Space Odyssey (sp):  jump up and down with excitement until you
 realize it's just freeze dried ice cream.

 Rounding out that analogy, the CCIE of the future will probably be reduced
 to being the CCNP of today.  Regardless, I have spent too much time and
 money to abandon the quest for CCIE now, but frankly, if I hadn't invested
 as much as I have, I would most likely abandon the quest in favor of
 broadening into other areas.  I really don't see much market value for the
 CCIE anymore, especially with Cisco hellbent on making it a meatgrinding
 cash cow. Your java console and one way only to configure experience
kind
 of bears this out.

 Sorry for the depressing post, just wanted to share.

 Charles





 The Long and Winding Road  wrote in
 message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Been spending this weekend on what was once the Cisco Advanced SE
Training
  ( ASET ) set of labs. These are available for those whose Cisco account
 team
  approves - there are a few conditions which can be found in the wee
places
  of certification training.
 
  The program is run by Lab Gear ( the only link I have is
www.labgear.net,
  but
  this is a login page ) There are a number of labs of CCIE level, look,
and
  feel.
 
  Supposed to be real equipment, but the access is via java script
windows,
  not terminal emulation. This makes for some interesting situations. The
  windows show or provide output only when they are active. So if you had
 two
  router sessions open, and you made changes on one router that would
 generate
  systems messages of one sort or another you would not see those messages
 on
  the other. also, I have yet to find a way to generate output from
 debugging
  commands. Things like term mon and logging of one kind or another have
not
  been successful. so no debug ip routing and debug ip ospf adj.
 
  As with the real lab, there are a series of tasks to be completed.
Grading
  is done via a script.  This is the point of most interest. Actually, I
  suspect a lot of the current CCIE Lab grading is done using scripting
 tools.
  I believe the proctors still physically examine equipment configurations
 for
  some things, but I could be wrong.
 
  It is of interest because to judge from the script outputs I am seeing,
  there appears to be an assumption that there is one and only one way to
do
  things. I'm not sure this is always true. I am not sure that this
results
 in
  an entirely accurate grade.
 
  But more importantly, given my experience with the java consoles and the
  manner in which these labs must be done, I am not sure I like where this
 is
  headed. Something Brian Dennis and Brad Ellis and some other people
 started
  talking about back when the CCIE Lab went from two days to one -
something
  about the longer term goal being to do the test remotely, and having
 people
  show up at Sylvan or some other testing center and log in remotely.
 
  If the Lab Gear approach is any indication, this is not ready for real
 live
  testing. I experienced far too many problems with terminal (
javascript )
  sessions disconnecting mysteriously. With 8 open windows, it sometimes
got
  to be very hard to find the session ( router ) I was looking for. Cut
and
  paste is a real pain. You have to open a scratchpad window, which is
  associated with the javascript console window. cutting and pasting is
done
  to this wind. there are scratchpad windows associated with each java
wind,
  so if you had a scratchpad open for every router session, that makes for
a
  LOT of junk to fight your way through looking for what you want. then
 there
  is the problem of actually moving what you want to copy and paste.
 highlight
  and control c control v or alt e paste don't work. you have to click on
  buttons on the java consoles to copy to and from routers.
 
  beyond that, there is the problems of whether or not the script answer
 is
  the right answer. For example, in one lab, a particular instruction
 requires
  that the rip routers on a particular segment have to use the neighbor
  statement to see eachother ( and prevent other routers on that segment
 from
  joining into the RIP domain ) well, the problem is, one of those routers
 is
  connected to another RIP router via a different interface. need a

IOS Feature question [7:62797]

2003-02-10 Thread Ed Dial
Ladies n' Gentlemen, a quick question about the IOS feature set. Does 
anyone know of a way to configure an async serial port (either a sync/async 
WIC or the 8/16 port NM) on a 3600 platform to act as a point-to-multipoint 
FRAD? The application is for SCADA, so a single RS-232 based PC at 1200 bps 
needs to poll all devices (also RS-232) on the network simultaneously in a 
classic point-to-multipoint topology. All devices listen to the poll, but 
only the unit with the correct polled address will respond to the PC in a 
round-robin fashion. I have 30 of these RTUs, or SCADA devices scattered 
around all points of a frame-relay network. I would like to pull this off 
in the 3600 without having to add 2500s to the stack. Mapping an async port 
directly to a DLCI would be good. My lab only has async on a 2511 (other 
than AUX), so I can't experiment with it. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance - Ed




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Re: Why disable cdp for back-to-back serial connection [7:62798]

2003-02-10 Thread Lawrence Law
Dear Priscilla,

Thank you for your clear explaination.

May be it is better to disable cdp for low speed link, and security issue.

Regards,
Lawrence



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 Cisco Discovery Protocol (CDP) is a managment protocol that allows routers
 and switches to tell each other about their IOS version, hardware
platform,
 and basic config info. Some security experts say to disable it because it
 tells too much.

 It has nothing to do with bringing the serial interface up/up. You could
use
 it or you could not. The two routers on the HDLC link don't have to agree.
 One could send CDP while the other doesn't and the link should still come
 up/up, assuming everything is OK at the physical and data-link layers.

 It's too bad they used no cdp enable in that simple example with no
 explanation. I don't think it's the default? So someone had to type it in,
 so they should have explained it.

 Priscilla


 Lawrence Law wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
 
  From cisco configuration example
 
 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk713/tk317/technologies_configuration_examp
  le09186a00800944ff.shtml
 
  I'm wondering that the line no cdp enable is required for
  both router
  in order to make a serial connection up for back-to-back
  connection.
 
  Regards,
  Lawrence




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RE: bandwidth [7:61552]

2003-02-10 Thread Larkin, Richard
I would bundle the two serial interfaces together using Multilink PPP, then
place access control on the router so customer's can't talk to each other,
then apply rate limiting to each customer with guaranteed 64k, burst
additional 64k and do rate limiting on bundle (if that's possible).

This is generally what telco's are doing with Metro ethernet switches,
except traffic is segregated by either VLAN or MPLS VPN.

Rik

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Subject: Re: bandwidth [7:61552]


kaushalender wrote:
 
 Thanx mam ,
 
 Thanx alot thanx very much .Yes both customers are on same router but

Whew, that's good. :-)

 how i will tell the s1 to use that bandwidth wich is not utilized by 
 s0 Plz help.because ihave restriction on s0 s1 both from rate
 limit command.

The method I told you before is based on the link still in use approaching a
certain bandwidth. At that point it can take over the other one. I realize
that's not quite what you want.

I don't think there is a way to have the link still in use take over the
other link when that link utilization goes low. Anyone know?

If we don't get an answer, start another thread and explain the situation
with more detail. That will get people's attention.

Good luck.

Priscilla

 Thanx in advance
 
 
 
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  kaushalender wrote:
  
 Hi group,
 
 I have a query Plz give anwserto it .Is it possible that if I have 2
 customers which have circuits from me.Both having 64 Kbps
 bandwidth .If
 one customer is not utilizeing  bandwidth than  another
 customer can
 utilize that spare bandwidth whenever the another customer
 starts using
 bandwidth it gets back to normal.
  
  
  Where are the two customers? Aren't they physically in two
 different places?
  If yes, then there's no way to get this to work. It would be
 like saying if
  the road from New York to Miami has few cars, can we tell the
 extra cars
  travelling from New York to Boston to use the road from New
 York to Miami?
  
  If you had two serial interfaces between two sites, you can
 tell a router to
  use the second one when utilization gets to a certain point
 with the backup
  command. For example, let's say you had S0 and S1. S0 could
 start using S1's
  bandwidth when its utilization reached 60% and stop using it
 when it fell to
  5% with the following command.
  
  int s0
  backup int s1
  backup load 60 5
  
  But that's when the two interfaces go the same place.
  
  ___
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
  www.priscilla.com
  
  
 Thanx In advance
 
 Kaushalender




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RE: CBAC, PPTP and NAT Interaction [7:62727]

2003-02-10 Thread Victor Latushkin
Tom@I-McNamara wrote:
 
 Thanks for that.  I had read that previously and it helped
 somewhat.
 However, my problem comes from interaction of the various
 technologies.
That article helped me a lot to understand interactions of various
technologies and transformations of packets. I've used table from that
article to play some what if scenarios with a pencil and a piece of paper
;-)

 For instance, I want to use some static packet filtering to
 keep IP spoofing
 out, denying private IPs from coming in from the outside
 interface, but when
 I do it breaks my IPSec tunnel as it has 10 network inside and
 triggers the
 deny 10.0.0.0 rule I have.  Now I opened the specific 10
 network that I am
 using inside to solve that problem, but that opens up a hole.
No, this doesn't open up a hole. IOS checks all incoming packet against
crypto map. If IOS receives unencrypted packet that should be encrypted
(according to access-list associated with crypto map), IOS will definitely
drop it.
 
 If I have a NAT'ed network, does the ACL get applied to the
 inside address or the Outside address?
Which ACL are you talking about? Lets see what happens with packet from your
network destined to the Internet. According to the artice, input access list
on an input interface is applied to packet before NAT, so at this point
packet has inside local address. Output access-list on an output interface
is applied to packet after NAT, consequently at this point packet has inside
global address. Therefore you should use inside global addresses in your
output access list on an external interface.
Packet destined to IPSec peer shouldn't be NAT'ed.
 
 I guess there are a few other things, obviously I am going to
 play with it
 some more and learn, I am just in search of some good
 information about the
 subject so that I can get a good basis of knowledge.

I advise you to check some example configurations on cisco's site. There are
tons of useful examples with explanations, configs, debug outputs etc...
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/browse/psp_view.pl?p=Internetworking:IPSecs=Implementation_and_Configuration#Samples_and_Tips

Best regards,

Victor


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