RE: problem...using 2 2509 in my LAB [7:70188]

2003-06-06 Thread Black Jack
ctrl-shift-6, ctrl-shift-6, x
Type one ctrl-shift-6 for each link in your chain of telnets, then the final
x.



Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
 
 I want to set up my own LAB so that i can remotely log in.
 
 i have 2 2509 and i want to connect 10 routers and 2 switches
 
 If i want to login remotely i only can connect to one of te
 2509(2509#1)
 
 so ive connected a cable from the 2509#1 port 8 to the console
 port of the other 2509#2
 
 and on the 2509#2 i have 2 2503's connected 
 
 
 if i connect from remote to the i first telnet to the 2509#1
 router.
 What i am going to do now do a reverse telnet to the second
 router 2509#2.
 Now i am on that router(2509#2) ans i am going to do a reverse
 telnet to on of the 2 2503's.
 Thats all still working fine...when i type Crtl-Shift-6-x i
 want to de 1 step back (to the 2509#)but is i do that it is
 going directly back to the first 2509#1.
 
 What can i do 
 
 There is one possible option by using the terminal
 escape-character command...
 But i dont know how or what...
 
 Can someone give me a sugestion?
 
 Thank You, 
 
 This is my list with routers:
 
 2x 2501
 2x 2502
 2x 2503
 2x 2509
 1x 4500
 1x 3630
 1x 3524
 1x 2924




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RE: VPN authentication [7:70186]

2003-06-06 Thread Bosco Sachanandani
From what I understand (and have done in a similar way in my network) when
the WYSE terminal sends a request for the remote host IP, and when that
reaches the router, the router in trying to route the packet to the remote
network (based on the routing table) will foward the packet to the ISDN
interface. When the ISDN interface realises that there is a packet for the
remote network, it will dial out automatically using the phone number and
authentication credentails.

No need for any config on the WYSE terminal.

BR
Bosco

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Hi,
 
I hope that someone can help me with this, let me explain.
 
We have a remote site A with isdn dialup to the coporate vpn concentrator
 
we have a dumb box aka WYSE terminal ie thin client
 
this is connected to a switch
the switch is connected to a 1700 router with wic bri
 
we want it to dial on demand and connect fully so the user does not see any
authentication requests
the user request should be done automatically but i cant find how to do that
via config unless* brainstorming here* the type should be network instead of
client ???
 
Thanks in advance,
Dj





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Re: E1 PRI to E1 PRI via DialupAll channels [7:70134]

2003-06-06 Thread Valeri Marinski
hab net wirklich ein example für PRI-to-PRI via Dialup gefunne
aber probier das mit normal pri timeslots und multilink load-threshold 1

aber net heut  keine lust

Aamir ist as usual :) bleibe suchen


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RE: problem...using 2 2509 in my LAB [7:70188]

2003-06-06 Thread Iwan Hoogendoorn
so i need to type a NUMBER (of the connected line)in stead of the X?

Thank You


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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-06 Thread jsicuran
You would think a notice would go out but I guess they missed it. I mean how
many times over the last three years since we obtained our certs did we get
update notices on the program plus reminders that our certs were expiring? I
received lots of cert junk mail from Cisco over that period.

What bugged me the most was the DP and the invalid info on CCO in respect to
the exam topics. According to CCO for np and dp recert everything is an
updated exam except for the CID. Oh well at least we have another 3 years
for them to catch up. The newer topics and exam info for the recently
updated np/dp looks really good, more voice and qos and content stuff. I
think these update exam topics plus the added hands on simulation difficulty
level of the exams will help keep the NP/DP somewhat relevant.

Congrats btw memory lane you said it lol.

Regards..

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my first attempt was 13 May and my successful attempt was 3 June (not
mentioning what was in between)

Updated CCNP recert. the CCNP recert is a new exam - wouldn't a
notice go out about a new exam?

Kevin Wigle

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From: jsicuran 
To: Kevin Wigle ; 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]


 Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I
just
 had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated,
before
 me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated
exam
 as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just
 switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks.
 That is weird. Memory lane is right.

 Good luck..

 /JS

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:50 PM
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 well... my experience is a bit different.

 As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a few times.

 I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not
 just one question.

 I think the question pool is huge on this exam.  Consider what it has to
 cover.

 The Road Goes Ever On (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down
 memory lane.
 I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated.

 Of course, I probably shouldn't assume...

 Kevin Wigle


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 From: jeff sicuranza 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM
 Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]


  There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one
 of
  old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like
 that
  on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer
 exams
  with ios simulation for hands on testing.
 
  It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
 
  Good luck..




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Many-to-one NAT on 2611XM [7:70193]

2003-06-06 Thread Tim Champion
We are going to be NATing up to 12 Internet Proxies behind a single
registered IP address on a Cisco 2611XM. Has anyone tried anything similar
or is anyone aware of any performance implications of this configuration?

Many thanks in advance

Tim




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RE: problem...using 2 2509 in my LAB [7:70188]

2003-06-06 Thread Black Jack
No, you type x, not a number. This sounds more confusing than it is. I
will try to be more clear. You have

PC--2509#1--2509#2--Router

You telnet from PC to 2509#1, then telnet again to 2509#2, then again to
Router. You are now at CLI of Router. If you type
ctrl-shift-6, x
you will end up at CLI of 2509#1. If you type 
ctrl-shift-6, ctrl-shift-6, x
you will end up at CLI of 2509#2.

The process is the same for reverse telnet or regular telnet.

In practice, you can just hold down ctrl-shift, tap 6 twice, then release
ctrl-shift and type x. If you do this a lot you will probably find it
convenient to program a shortcut key to ctrl-shift-6, ctrl-shift-6, x if
your emulator has that functionality. Or you can use a keyboard macro program.

Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
 
 so i need to type a NUMBER (of the connected line)in stead of
 the X?
 
 Thank You




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RE: Many-to-one NAT on 2611XM [7:70193]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Hi there,

From Routing TCP/IP Vol.2 of Doyle, 
Each NAT entry uses approximately 160 bytes of memory, so 65535 entries
would consume more than 10MB of memory and large amounts of CPU power

Although this is a guideline, you will never really know until you've tried
your configuration. However, I can't see why you should have any problem
with the 2611XM.

Regards,



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Re: Quick Pix Question. [7:70145]

2003-06-06 Thread Riley
The counters are not incrementing because the entries are not being matched.
Suspect that the ACL is applied to the wrong interface.  Remember the
direction - in - which means that the access list is applied to traffic
entering a particular interface from their residence on that interface.

For example:

INISDE -PIX -OUTSIDE

If I want my ACL to filter ICMP traffic orginating from the INSIDE network,
I would apply it to the INSIDE interface.  However, if I have to filter ICMP
traffic to my INSIDE network from the OUTSIDE network, I would apply it to
the OUTSIDE interface.

HTH,

Charles

Paul  wrote in message
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 Hi all ...

 One of my 515's has all its access-list counters set to 0, when I ping for
 instance, the counter for the relevant ICMP access-list does not increment
 ???

 How do I turn it on ??? I have searched the Cisco website and my Pix book
 without any luck ??

 Kind regards

 Paul ...




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RE: problem...using 2 2509 in my LAB [7:70188]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Check out CRT at http://www.vandyke.com
if you need a cool terminal program - it allows you to program sequences
like Black Jack explained in the previous posting.
Regards,
 


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Re: Please expalin the numbers in the source-bridg [7:70115]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
The first bridge is 9, the ring is 3, and the next bridge is 23.
On the opposite side you will have:
source-bridge 23 3 9

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RE: VLNA ISSUE [7:70174]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Why is nobody suggesting dynamic VLANs using VMPS (VLAN Membership Policy
Server)? I do think it's a good solution. Yes, maybe you have some upfront
work to configure the VMPS Database, but thereafter it's a worry-free day.

Regards,



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Re: Catalyst MDI X [7:70109]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Yeah, some manufacturers support MDI on there ports and some don't...


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RE: CCIE Written [7:70117]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Sure, Have a look at:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le11/learning_ccie_exam_blueprint09186a00800b4c95.html


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Re: Help with a 1720 Router [7:70073]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Wow! These people are really friendly and helpful!



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Device Symbols [7:70207]

2003-06-06 Thread Aaron
Does anyone know a link to somewhere in CCO where there is a listing of all
the device symbols and what they are?  I am looking at some symbols that are
starting to get complex and wanted to reference something to make sure I
know what I am looking at.

Thanks!
Aaron


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Re: Most of my posts not getting through [7:70144]

2003-06-06 Thread John Smith
Are you doing a reply or a reply all. this one was a reply all and it's
going to both the originator (you) and groupstudy. I think the reply only
sends it to the originator, I'm using Yahoo in this case.
 
Vic

Daniel Cotts  wrote:
in the last two to three days I've replied to several posts regarding
technical questions and have not seen them appear on groupstudy. I've also
replied to some trivial posts and they do appear. I have checked my sent
mail folder to verify that they all went to groupstudy. Later posts to
groupstudy by the person with the question indicate they received my e-mail
(as it was sent directly to them plus groupstudy.)
Moderators, Any thoughts?
Do you Yahoo!?
Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).




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RE: CCIE Qual Exam Question ... [7:70162]

2003-06-06 Thread Joseph Brunner
Most of those are not re-certified. I would like to know of the
11,000+ ccie's how many are still active ?

I guess they retire your number even if you become inactive.


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Online Audios/Videos of Networking Courses [7:70214]

2003-06-06 Thread Shivkumar Kalyanaraman
Hi Folks, 

I am a Professor in the Electrical, Computer and Systems Engineering (ECSE)
department at Rensselaer Polytechic Institute (RPI) -- our department is
ranked in the top 15. My speciality is networking.

This post is to inform you that I have recently collected all the videos and
audios of my networking classes and put them online, freely available:

http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma/teaching/video_index.html 

For those who might prefer a CD-ROM set of the videos, that can also be
ordered from this site. I hope this will be a useful reference for those
working in the networking industry or interested to learn about or brush up
their knowledge of networking, but do not have time to take formal
university courses. I am sure it will also help complement your CCNA studies.

Comments/Errata welcome! Good luck with your studies. If you find this
resource useful, please recommend it to your friends and colleagues. Thanks!

best 
-Shivkumar 
=== 
Shivkumar Kalyanaraman 
Associate Professor, Dept of ECSE, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) 
110, 8th Street, Room JEC 6003, Troy NY 12180-3590 
Ph: 518 276 8979 Fax: 518 276 4403 
WWW: http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma 




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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
mailsub1 wrote:
 
 Priscilla wrote:
 
 One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of
 questions for
 CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and
 StrataCom
 though! Oh boy! :-)
 
 I had quite a few BGP questions in my CCDP-recert exam on
 Monday.

Oops. Yes, you're right. CCDP does cover BGP. It was IS-IS that I was
thinking of. It doesn't cover that.

Also, it doesn't cover BGP to the extent that it is covered in CCNP. CCDP
seems to be drawing from a couple generations back of Routing questions.

Priscilla


 
 I am really happy that I am now certified for another 3 years
 and can,
 according to Cisco, design a high performance SNA/Appletalk/IPX
 token-ring network, probably using only ATM switches from
 StrataCom and
 700 and 1600 series routers ;)
 
 Mark.
 
 




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RE: Device Symbols [7:70207]

2003-06-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For visio:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons1.zip
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons2.zip
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons3.zip
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons4.zip

for Powerpoint:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/503/2.html

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Subject: Device Symbols [7:70207]


Does anyone know a link to somewhere in CCO where there is a listing of all
the device symbols and what they are?  I am looking at some symbols that are
starting to get complex and wanted to reference something to make sure I
know what I am looking at.

Thanks!
Aaron




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Re: [CISCO] RE: CCIE Qual Exam Question ... [7:70162]

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Aland
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:33:55PM +, Joseph Brunner wrote:
 Most of those are not re-certified. I would like to know of the
 11,000+ ccie's how many are still active ?
 
 I guess they retire your number even if you become inactive.
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RE: subnet routing [7:70175]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
You better send your configs. It sounds like the Core router is learning
about Router A somehow even though you say there's no default route.

Also, put Ethereal on it and see what's really happening. When the Core PC
sends a ping or traceroute, does it really send to the MAC address of the
Core router? Does the Core router send an ICMP Redirect and also forward the
frame to RouterA? Some of this would be really easy to see with Ethereal.

Priscilla

Lo Ching wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 I have a CORE network with /16,eg, 10.10.10.0/16 and a seperate
 segment with ip 10.10.20.0/24 with a router.
 ie
 segment/24 -- routerA --- CORE LAN/16  CORE router
 
 All the CORE PC with default gateway pointing to CORE router
 and segment PC will point to routerA.
 
 Here is the my question.
 Router A have a default route pointing to CORE router. However,
 I check that the CORE router doesn't have a route pointing
 back. ie,
 NO ip route 10.10.20.0/24 to routerA. Therefore, I assume that
 the CORE router don't know how to route the traffic back.
 
 But how come the CORE LAN PC and segment PC can ping another?
 
 And why traceroute from CORE LAN PC the first hop will redirect
 to routerA interface? (because of ip-redirect?)
 
 TIA.
 
 rgds,
 LoChing  




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Re: Please expalin the numbers in the source-bridg [7:70115]

2003-06-06 Thread MADMAN
Not quite.  23 is the local ring, 9 is the remote ring and 3 is the 
bridge connecting the two.

   Dave

- jvd wrote:
 The first bridge is 9, the ring is 3, and the next bridge is 23.
 On the opposite side you will have:
 source-bridge 23 3 9
 
 Regards,
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RE: CCIE Qual Exam Question ... [7:70162]

2003-06-06 Thread Will Gragido
They retire your number but they also reserve it so that you have the
opportunity to re-take the lab et al and receive your original number.

Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP
Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. 
Rosemont, Il 60018
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The Knowledge Behind The Network
 

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Joseph Brunner
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: CCIE Qual Exam Question ... [7:70162]

Most of those are not re-certified. I would like to know of the
11,000+ ccie's how many are still active ?

I guess they retire your number even if you become inactive.




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RE: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Cotts
VLANs are a layer two construct. The ip address assigned to a switch is used
for management purposes only. So, configure one VLAN as the management VLAN
- default is 1 - give it an ip address, configure an ip default-gateway
and you are set. You can never have more than one Interface VLAN active on
a 2924XL switch.
VLAN = Virtual LAN - think of the switch being segmented into several
virtual switches. Usually we associate an ip subnet with each VLAN. To
communicate between the virtual switches (VLAN/ layer two device) you need a
routing function (layer three) to provide the ip addressing and routing.
A simple way would be to use a router with multiple ethernet interfaces.
Each has an ip address. One port from each of the switch's VLANs connects to
one of the router's interfaces. Hosts on the VLANS use the subnet associated
with the router interface and use the router interface's ip address as its
default gateway.
A more elegant method uses trunking between the switch and router.
Subinterfaces on the router are used to provide the different ip subnets.
The documentation on CCO is extensive. If you prefer books, may I suggest
Cisco LAN Switching by Clark and Hamilton, Cisco Press, ISBN 1578700949

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 From: Simer Mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]
 
 
 Yep.  It still shows as admin down.
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brandon Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:38 PM
 To: Simer Mayo
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]
 
 Ok, This maybe a bit to simple and obvious but have you issued a No 
 shutdown command on both interfaces?
 
 
 
 Simer Mayo wrote:
 
 I'm trying to configure 3 VLANS on a Catalyst 2924 XL.
 Scenario:
 Ports: 1- VLAN 1 (Management)
2-12   VLAN 2 (VLAN 2 IP: 192.168.42.254 /24)
   13-24   VLAN 3 (VLAN 3 IP: 192.168.142.254 /24)
 --Users from VLAN 2 (192.168.42.0) be able to access servers 
 in VLAN 3
 (192.168.142.0)
  
 ISSUE: The VLAN 2 and 3 always appear to be administrative shutdown. 
  
  
 PLEASE ADVICE
  
 Following is the config:
  
 version 12.0
 service timestamps debug uptime
 service timestamps log uptime
 !
 hostname 2924XL
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/2-12
  switchport access vlan 2
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/13-24
  switchport access vlan 3
 !
 interface VLAN1
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  management
 !
 interface VLAN2
  ip address 192.168.142.1 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
 interface VLAN3
  ip address 192.168.42.1 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
  
 sh ver:
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2900xl Software (C2900xl-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC5,
 RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, 
 Inc. Compiled
 Tue 28-May-02 11:11 by devgoyal Image text-base: 0x3000, 
 data-base:
 0x0034A3C8
  
 ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900xl boot loader
  
 CitPub2924XL uptime is 1 hour, 38 minutes
 System returned to ROM by power-on
 System image file is flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC5.bin
  
 cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with
 8192K/1024K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FAA0329M0Q7, with
 hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on
  
 Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software
 Cluster command switch capable
 Cluster member switch capable
 24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Model
 revision number: A0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN 
 Configuration register
 is 0xF
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MPLS TE crash the router 2500 [7:70221]

2003-06-06 Thread alaerte Vidali
After entering 'tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic' the router
crash.


The configuration is:

ip cef 
mpls traffic-eng tunnels 
!
interface loopback 0 
ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.255 
!
interface se 0.23 
ip address 192.168.23.1 255.255.255.255 
mpls traffic-eng tunnels 
ip rsvp bandwidth 1000 
!
router ospf 0 
network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0 
mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback0 
mpls traffic-eng area 0
!
interface tunnel1 
ip unnumbered loopback 0 
tunnel destination 3.3.3.3
tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng 
tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth 100 
tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 1 1 

!
end

When the command 'tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic' is entered,
the following messages appear and it is necessary reload the router
(physically).
 
8w5d: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel1, changed state
to down
8w5d: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Loopback0, changed state to
administratively down
8w5d: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Loopback0, changed
state to down
8w5d: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Loopback0, changed state to up
8w5d: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Loopback0, changed
state to up
8w5d: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 3.3.3.3 on Serial0.23 from EXCHANGE to
DOWN, Neighb
or Down: Interface down or detached
hbor Down: Interface down or detached
8w5d: %OSPF-4-NONEIGHBOR: Received database description from unknown
neighbor 3.3.3.3
8w5d: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 3.3.3.3 on Serial0.23 from LOADING to
FULL, Loading
 Done
8w5d: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Tunnel1, changed state to up
Queued messages:Local Timeout (control reg=0x118) Error, address: 0x20201FE
at 0x34CEA50
 (PC)

I also tried explicity path; the result is the same. And IS-IS too.

Any Thoughts?


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Insufficient memory to boot the image. [7:70223]

2003-06-06 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Hello all,

I see this message upon bootup on 85K router - System INIT - 
Insufficient memory to boot the image.  I suspected the processor board 
and replaced with the known good one.  But still it keeps coming.  Any 
idea of what exactly is going on?

Thanks,
rajesh




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recovering VTP password HELP!! [7:70222]

2003-06-06 Thread Michael Witte
We have a network comprised of a cat6500 as server and 3500 switches as
clients. we need to add more switches and we do not know the VTP password so
we can propagate the VLANS. I cannot find anyway of recovering this. Anyone
else had luck with this ??


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Re: [CISCO] number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Aland
I'm sure the lab becoming 1 day had something to do with it but they
also added the security exam.

I don't think the braindump of the written has anything to do with it,
still gotta pass the lab before you get your #.




On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 04:46:22AM +, Lamy Alexandre wrote:
 You find that the number of CCIE increases very quickly? Maybe that the
 value will be less.
 
 the last year, they was 8000,this year, 11 000 
 
 maybe also because the lab become 1 day, and there is many braindump of the
 written exam.
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RE: Number of routes and Memory [7:70147]

2003-06-06 Thread - jvd
Hi,

I don't know how many people will try to answer this question - actually
it's quite difficult to answer because it depends on so many other factors.
Just to make my point I'm pasting from
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk365/tk80/technologies_q_and_a_item09186a00800949e8.shtml#seventeen

Q. How much memory should I have in my router to receive the complete BGP
routing table from my ISP?

The amount of memory required to store BGP routes depends on many factors,
such as the router, the number of alternate paths available, route
dampening, community, the number of maximum paths configured, BGP
attributes, and VPN configurations. Without knowledge of these parameters it
is difficult to calculate the amount of memory required to store a certain
number of BGP routes. We typically recommend a minimum of 128 MB of RAM in
the router to store a complete global BGP routing table from one BGP peer.
However, it is important to understand ways to reduce memory consumption and
achieve optimal routing without the need to receive the complete Internet
routing table. Achieve Optimal Routing and Reduce BGP Memory Consumption
provides more detailed information.

As you can see here Cisco doesn't venture into the area of saying 1 route =
x bytes.




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RE: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-06 Thread n rf
Well, there are still less than 10,000 CCIE's.  So the population hasn't
accelerated THAT dramatically.

Having said that, I will say that the CCIE has most likely gotten less
rigorous and therefore less valuable over time.  I know this is going to
greatly annoy some people when I say this, but the truth is, the average
quality of the later (read: high-number) CCIE's is probably lower than the
average quality of the higher (read: lower-number) CCIE's.

Before any of you high-number CCIE's decides to flame me, ask yourself if
you were given the opportunity to trade your number for a lower number,
would you do it?  For example, if you are CCIE #11,000 and you could trade
that number for CCIE #1100, would you take it?  Be honest with yourself. 
I'm sure you would concede that you would.  By the same token we also know
that no low-number CCIE would willingly trade his number for a higher one. 
The movement is therefore all one-way.  If all CCIE's were really created
equal then nobody would really care one way or another which number they
had. Therefore the CCIE community realizes that all CCIE's are not created
equal and that intuitively that the lower number is more desirable and the
higher number is less desirable (otherwise, why does everybody want a lower
number?).  Simply put, the test is not as rigorous as it was in the past,
which is why lower numbers are preferred.

Or, I'll put it to you another way.  Let's say that starting at #12,000
Cisco makes the test ridiculously hard, putting in all kinds of funky
technologies, and making the pass rate less than 1% or some other god-awful
number.  What would happen?  Simple.  Word would get around that the new
CCIE was super-rigorous and therefore very prestigious to pass.  Eventually,
numbers greater than #12000 would be coveted, and everybody would want to
trade in their number for one greater than #12000.  Recruiters and HR people
would start giving preference to CCIE's with numbers greater than #12000. 
The point is that when rigor increases, prestige and desirability tends to
follow.  When rigor declines, so does prestige and desirability.


And what is the cause of this decline in rigor?  Well, you alluded to
several factors.  While it is still rather controversial exactly how the
switch from 2 days to 1 day impacted the program, it is widely conceded that
it probably didn't help.  Nor does having all these braindumps all over the
Internet, and not just for the written, but the lab as well.  The CCIE has
certain arcane logistical rules that people have figured out how to 'game' -
for example, for example, some people who live near test sites just attempt
the lab every month over and over again.  Finally, there is the consensus
that the CCIE program has simply not kept up with the growing amount of
study material, bootcamps, lab-guides, and so forth.  We all know there's an
entire cottage industry devoted just to helping people to pass the lab, and
while there's nothing wrong with that per se, it does mean that Cisco needs
to keep pace to maintain test rigor.  To offer a parallel situation, when
the MCSE bootcamps started to proliferate, the value of the MCSE plummeted
because Microsoft did not properly maintain the rigor of the cert.


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RE: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-06 Thread Fernando Saldana del C
Dear n fr,

Which CCIE number are you ?

Are you trying to devalue more the networking jobs?

Please be realistic you cannot compare a Software
company with a Networking company.

I looks like you are saying that the world will return
to the stone age and communicate by messengers that
will run log distance to take the information to the
main site.

Try to respect the networking field and rise its
level.

Thank you




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Took the new switching this weekend [7:70225]

2003-06-06 Thread Weaselboy
I took the new switching beta this weekend (I'll find out if I passed
sometime in the future).  Since I passed the old version, I figured I'm
qualified to make a comparison.  

The old exam was ridiculously heavy with type-in-the-command type
questions - a pure memorization-fest.  The new one is much more theory
and how technology works.  I also noticed a bunch of things covered that
I would have thought belonged on the routing exam, but maybe they're
trying to spread things around a bit more.  

I had one fairly easy simulation question. You had to configure like
four simple things, which means issuing several commands; but the help
function worked, so you could hash things out pretty easily.  I always
wonder about whether your suppose to save your configuration as part of
the exercise; hopefully I don't get marked down for doing that!

Here are some acronyms you should know:  MST, VRRP, RSTP, SPAN, CoS,
HSRP, AVVID and VLAN Tunneling.  I would also make sure you understand
how ACLs and the VLAN equivalent work (VLAN filtering maybe, I don't
remember what it's called).  

It didn't seem that hard, but I'll find out in a few months.  Anybody
else take it?

The WB




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New BCRAN - VPN, QoS and Traffic Shaping [7:70226]

2003-06-06 Thread Weaselboy
I'm trying to get ready to take the new BCRAN when it comes out, but all
the study guides are focused on the old exam.  For those who took the
beta, can you give me any guidance on these three topics - VPN, QoS and
Traffic Shaping. I'm not looking for anybody to break the NDA, I just
want to know how deep I need to go, and if there are any good links on
the CCO.  Thanks.

The WB




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RE: Took the new switching this weekend [7:70225]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
The help function worked!? Cool! (I assume you mean you could type a
question mark and see possibilities?) Way to go Cisco. That's a good change,
considering the fact that real network engineers depend on the question
mark. :-)

Priscilla

Weaselboy wrote:
 
 I took the new switching beta this weekend (I'll find out if I
 passed
 sometime in the future).  Since I passed the old version, I
 figured I'm
 qualified to make a comparison.  
 
 The old exam was ridiculously heavy with type-in-the-command
 type
 questions - a pure memorization-fest.  The new one is much more
 theory
 and how technology works.  I also noticed a bunch of things
 covered that
 I would have thought belonged on the routing exam, but maybe
 they're
 trying to spread things around a bit more.  
 
 I had one fairly easy simulation question. You had to configure
 like
 four simple things, which means issuing several commands; but
 the help
 function worked, so you could hash things out pretty easily.  I
 always
 wonder about whether your suppose to save your configuration as
 part of
 the exercise; hopefully I don't get marked down for doing that!
 
 Here are some acronyms you should know:  MST, VRRP, RSTP, SPAN,
 CoS,
 HSRP, AVVID and VLAN Tunneling.  I would also make sure you
 understand
 how ACLs and the VLAN equivalent work (VLAN filtering maybe, I
 don't
 remember what it's called).  
 
 It didn't seem that hard, but I'll find out in a few months. 
 Anybody
 else take it?
 
 The WB
 
 




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SNMP MIB for finding last configuration change? [7:70231]

2003-06-06 Thread Raj Santiago
Hi Guys,

I was wondering if there is a SNMP MIB that can inform me when the last
change in configuration took place on a router/switch. I want to utilize
this information to back-up configurations.

Currently we're blindly logging to the routers/swicthes, grabbing the config
and comparing. This method is okay if you have  a small number of routers to
manage, but gets quite impractical when you have 3500+ routers+switches...

any ideas ?

cheers

Raj


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RE: Online Audios/Videos of Networking Courses [7:70214]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
That's terrific that you put all this info on the Web. It looks like you
have some great classes. I approve of teaching networking in a top-down
manner. :-)

I haven't gotten the videos to work yet though...

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.priscilla.com



Shivkumar Kalyanaraman wrote:
 
 Hi Folks, 
 
 I am a Professor in the Electrical, Computer and Systems
 Engineering (ECSE) department at Rensselaer Polytechic
 Institute (RPI) -- our department is ranked in the top 15. My
 speciality is networking.
 
 This post is to inform you that I have recently collected all
 the videos and audios of my networking classes and put them
 online, freely available:
 
 http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma/teaching/video_index.html 
 
 For those who might prefer a CD-ROM set of the videos, that can
 also be ordered from this site. I hope this will be a useful
 reference for those working in the networking industry or
 interested to learn about or brush up their knowledge of
 networking, but do not have time to take formal university
 courses. I am sure it will also help complement your CCNA
 studies.
 
 Comments/Errata welcome! Good luck with your studies. If you
 find this resource useful, please recommend it to your friends
 and colleagues. Thanks!
 
 best 
 -Shivkumar 
 === 
 Shivkumar Kalyanaraman 
 Associate Professor, Dept of ECSE, Rensselaer Polytechnic
 Institute (RPI)
 110, 8th Street, Room JEC 6003, Troy NY 12180-3590 
 Ph: 518 276 8979 Fax: 518 276 4403 
 WWW: http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma 
 
 




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Re: BGP Policy-based Routing -- applicable for inbound and [7:70235]

2003-06-06 Thread Hinwoto
Thanks Jayhawls
and Selcuk, the link is usefull to understand more BGP..

cheers
hin
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 hi,

 this is nice cisco's page for BGP...

 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm

 Selcuk


 - Original Message -
 From: jayhawks-2003
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:01 PM
 Subject: Re: BGP Policy-based Routing -- applicable for inbound and
 [7:70083]


  I think you are confusing ip policy routing with BGP policy routing.
These
  are
  two DIFFERENT concepts. A BGP routing policy determines what networks a
 BGP
  speaking router can receive or advertise to / from a neighboring BGP
  speaking
  router ( IBGP or EBGP ). You use BGP neighbor statements to determine
  inbound
  and outbound policies. This explanation is in a tiny nutshell. BGP
offers
 a
  variety of tools for route filtering ( communities, AS-PATH,
 weightsetc
  )
  to configure BGP policies. I recommend the book Routing TCP/IP Volumes I

  II. This would be an excellent start.
 
  Hope this sheds some light
  Go men's Jayhawk basketball!!! Rock-chalk Jayhawk
 
  BB
 
  On Monday 02 June 2003 22:27, Hinwoto wrote:
   hi guys,
  
   Can BGP Policy-based routing be configured both on inbound and
outbound
   interfaces ?
   I know that it is definitely for inbound interface.
   And can the policy-based routing also be used to alter the final
   destination of the packet ?
   I don't think there's an option to set that.
  
   Please, show the light.
   Thanks guys
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Re: 3550 Capabilities [7:70080]

2003-06-06 Thread The Road Goes Ever On
 Joseph R. Taylor  wrote in message
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  Team,
 I understand that the 3550 switches at wire speed. Also, it routes up
 to
  the Transport layer. What type of stand alone router could the
intergrated
  router be compared to?

 One which has 16 meg flash, 64 meg RAM, and 24 or 48 fastethernet ports
plus
 two gig ports  ;-

 Cisco's published forwarding rates are actually impressive, assuming you
can
 fairly compare them to the published rates for the various routers.



   Thank you,
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Depth of study required for CCIE Written [7:70246]

2003-06-06 Thread Swapnil Shah
Dear All

I am planning to take my CCIE written exams in near future.

I have a few queries regarding the depth of knowledge required for the
written exams on certain topics.

1. ATM -- Do they go on for asking on config of ATM on Cisco ATM switches
or focus is on using ATM as a layer  2  tech. and configuring the routers to
use ATM VC's

2. All Tpoics covered under Multiservice in CCIE Blueprint i.e

Voice/Video (H323)
codecs
SS7
RTP
RTCP
SIP
MPLS

As few of this topic requires a five day course in itself esp MPLS

I would also like to know any good reference material for following topics
covered under WAN

WAN
1. ISDN (LAPD, BRI/PRI framing, signaling, mapping, NI1s, dialer map,
interface types, B/D channel, channel
bonding)
2. Frame Relay (LMIs, DLCI, PVC, framing, traffic shaping, FECN, BECN, CIR,
DE, Mapping, compression)
3. X.25 (addressing, routing, LAPB, error control/recovery, windowing,
signaling, mapping, SVC/PVC, Protocol
Translation)
4. ATM (PVC/SVC, AAL, SSCOP, UNI/NNI, ILMI, Cell format, QoS, RFC 1483,
PNNI, mapping)
5. Physical Layer (Synchronization, SONET, T1, E1, encoding)
6. Leased Line Protocols (HDLC, PPP, Async  modems, compression)
7. PoS
8. DPT/SRP

Your feedback on same would be really helpfull.

Regards
Swapnil Shah




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Re: Multi-home [7:70243]

2003-06-06 Thread Kenny Ho
Hi Brian,

Sounds like a good solution, but how do split the traffic between the serial 
ports.  How do I split the bandwidth between two 2620 routes?  Many thanks!

Regards,
Kafai


From: Brian W. 
To: Kengie , 
Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:28 -0700

Well you could take the easy way out and just get a second e1 with the same
provider, assuming your router has an empty serial interface, and default
route to both links, that'll usually work fine.  Depending on your router
youll need to either get a card with an integrated csu, or an external one.
If you want to bring in a different provider, that usually entails bgp, see
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c/ipcprt2/1cdbgp.htm
for some info if you haven't read up.

 Bri

- Original Message -
From: Kengie 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Multi-home [7:70243]


  Dear All,
 
  I have a problem with our ISP link.  I am now approaching our E1
bandwidth.
  How can I upgrade my bandwidth?  Do I need to add another CSU/DSU for
  another E1?  And If I apply for another ISP provider, how configure my
cisco
  to switch to the other gateway when the other one is fully utilize. 
Reason
  is that the new ISP provider would give me a new set of IP.  I only want
to
  use the bandwidth.  Many thanks.
 
  Regards,
  Kengie
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Re: Insufficient memory to boot the image. [7:70223]

2003-06-06 Thread Jens Neelsen
hI,

I have seen this message on other routers (26xx, 36xx). It means
that you do not have enough memory installed for this image. Try
another image and check your memory with show version. Check
the memory requirements for your image in the Software Center
on cisco.com (CCO login required).

With kind regards
Jens Neelsen

--- Rajesh Kumar  wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I see this message upon bootup on 85K router - System INIT - 
 Insufficient memory to boot the image.  I suspected the
 processor board 
 and replaced with the known good one.  But still it keeps
 coming.  Any 
 idea of what exactly is going on?
 
 Thanks,
 rajesh
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Re: Multi-home [7:70243]

2003-06-06 Thread Brian W.
Well you could take the easy way out and just get a second e1 with the same
provider, assuming your router has an empty serial interface, and default
route to both links, that'll usually work fine.  Depending on your router
youll need to either get a card with an integrated csu, or an external one.
If you want to bring in a different provider, that usually entails bgp, see
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c/ipcprt2/1cdbgp.htm
for some info if you haven't read up.

Bri

- Original Message - 
From: Kengie 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Multi-home [7:70243]


 Dear All,

 I have a problem with our ISP link.  I am now approaching our E1
bandwidth.
 How can I upgrade my bandwidth?  Do I need to add another CSU/DSU for
 another E1?  And If I apply for another ISP provider, how configure my
cisco
 to switch to the other gateway when the other one is fully utilize. Reason
 is that the new ISP provider would give me a new set of IP.  I only want
to
 use the bandwidth.  Many thanks.

 Regards,
 Kengie




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Re: Multi-home [7:70243]

2003-06-06 Thread Kenny Ho
There is one problem the 2620 can't handle 2 MB of voice traffic.  That is 
why my provider is giving us another 2620 to offload the traffic to another 
router.  How should I set this configuration?  Thanks

Regards,
Kengie


From: Brian W. 
To: Kenny Ho , 
Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:49:23 -0700

I assume now if you look at your routers config, there is a line that 
starts
with something like:
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0, and the next argument would either be the
interface name the e1 connects to or the ip address on the isp's side of 
the
e1.  In the event you get a second e1 from the same provider, the easiest
way to do it is to get both e1s on the same router on your side and on the
isp's side, then add a second ip route statement like the one above, with
the interface you add the second e1 to as the last argument.  If you have a
2620 router, they have 2 wic slots, so youd just need to obtain an e1 wic
for the other slot, then connect it like you did the first.  So, suppose 
you
had 2 e1s hooked up at this point, all you'd need is, assuming the
interfaces are serial0 and serial1:

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s0
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s1

 Brian

- Original Message -
From: Kenny Ho 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]


  Hi Brian,
 
  Sounds like a good solution, but how do split the traffic between the
serial
  ports.  How do I split the bandwidth between two 2620 routes?  Many
thanks!
 
  Regards,
  Kafai
 
 
  From: Brian W. 
  To: Kengie , 
  Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
  Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:28 -0700
  
  Well you could take the easy way out and just get a second e1 with the
same
  provider, assuming your router has an empty serial interface, and 
default
  route to both links, that'll usually work fine.  Depending on your 
router
  youll need to either get a card with an integrated csu, or an external
one.
  If you want to bring in a different provider, that usually entails bgp,
see
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_
c/ipcprt2/1cdbgp.htm
  for some info if you haven't read up.
  
   Bri
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Kengie 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 PM
  Subject: Multi-home [7:70243]
  
  
Dear All,
   
I have a problem with our ISP link.  I am now approaching our E1
  bandwidth.
How can I upgrade my bandwidth?  Do I need to add another CSU/DSU 
for
another E1?  And If I apply for another ISP provider, how configure 
my
  cisco
to switch to the other gateway when the other one is fully utilize.
  Reason
is that the new ISP provider would give me a new set of IP.  I only
want
  to
use the bandwidth.  Many thanks.
   
Regards,
Kengie
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Question about Cisco's routers [7:70252]

2003-06-06 Thread Lee
Hello Team,

A quick question for you guys

Just by looking at the show ver, how can i differentiate a router between
Cisco 4000  Cisco 4000M?

Also, for a 4000M, what is the max amount of flash it can handle? (I want to
load at least IOS 12.1 on it).

-

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software

IOS (tm) 4000 Software (C4000-DS-M), Version 12.0(23), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)

Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.

Compiled Mon 01-Jul-02 22:19 by srani

Image text-base: 0x00012000, data-base: 0x0083DF10

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 4.14(7), SOFTWARE

R6 uptime is 1 minute

System restarted by power-on

System image file is flash:c4000-ds-mz.120-23.bin

cisco 4000 (68030) processor (revision 0xB0) with 16384K/4096K bytes of
memory.

Processor board ID 5039132

G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0.

Bridging software.

X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.

1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)

128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.

4096K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102





Thanks in advance,

H.




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Re: Multi-home [7:70243]

2003-06-06 Thread Brian W.
I assume now if you look at your routers config, there is a line that starts
with something like:
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0, and the next argument would either be the
interface name the e1 connects to or the ip address on the isp's side of the
e1.  In the event you get a second e1 from the same provider, the easiest
way to do it is to get both e1s on the same router on your side and on the
isp's side, then add a second ip route statement like the one above, with
the interface you add the second e1 to as the last argument.  If you have a
2620 router, they have 2 wic slots, so youd just need to obtain an e1 wic
for the other slot, then connect it like you did the first.  So, suppose you
had 2 e1s hooked up at this point, all you'd need is, assuming the
interfaces are serial0 and serial1:

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s0
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s1

Brian

- Original Message - 
From: Kenny Ho 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]


 Hi Brian,

 Sounds like a good solution, but how do split the traffic between the
serial
 ports.  How do I split the bandwidth between two 2620 routes?  Many
thanks!

 Regards,
 Kafai


 From: Brian W. 
 To: Kengie , 
 Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:28 -0700
 
 Well you could take the easy way out and just get a second e1 with the
same
 provider, assuming your router has an empty serial interface, and default
 route to both links, that'll usually work fine.  Depending on your router
 youll need to either get a card with an integrated csu, or an external
one.
 If you want to bring in a different provider, that usually entails bgp,
see

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_
c/ipcprt2/1cdbgp.htm
 for some info if you haven't read up.
 
  Bri
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kengie 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 PM
 Subject: Multi-home [7:70243]
 
 
   Dear All,
  
   I have a problem with our ISP link.  I am now approaching our E1
 bandwidth.
   How can I upgrade my bandwidth?  Do I need to add another CSU/DSU for
   another E1?  And If I apply for another ISP provider, how configure my
 cisco
   to switch to the other gateway when the other one is fully utilize.
 Reason
   is that the new ISP provider would give me a new set of IP.  I only
want
 to
   use the bandwidth.  Many thanks.
  
   Regards,
   Kengie
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RE: problem...using 2 2509 in my LAB [7:70188]

2003-06-06 Thread Iwan Hoogendoorn
hi, 

Thanks for you solution Black Jack...
I tryed it last night and it worked...

Way too cool man...


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Re: VLNA ISSUE [7:70174]

2003-06-06 Thread Ralf van Dooren
Milind,

A reference of VMPS:

CatOS based:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008007f2ec.html

and

IOS based:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps637/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008007f03c.html


What you basically do is make a text file with the following content

vmps domain 
vmps-mac-addrs
!
address  vlan-name 
address  vlan-name 

You put this file on a tftp-server on your network.

One of your switches will act as the vmps server. This server should
download the textfile on your tftp-server.

On your switches you configure the vmps server. IP address is that of
the switch acting as vmps-server.

The ports you want to be VMPS-based have to put put on 'dynamic'.
(switchport access vlan dynamic)

That's basically it. On URLs above you can retrieve more information and
confguration examples about VMPS.

Good luck,

Ralf





On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 04:04:26AM +, milind tare wrote:
 hi Ralf,
 
 
u right ralf...then same thing which i
 required..can u explain me in detail how can i
 proceed. or if any more informaition regarding my
 setup u need pls let me know i will mail u.pls suggest
 me any cisco link also.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Milind Tare
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- Ralf van Dooren  wrote:
  Milind,
  
  Maybe I don't understand your question entirely
  correct, but VMPS may be
  your solution.
  
  With VMPS, you can make a database of mac addresses
  and the vlan it
  needs to be in.
  
  When one of your HOD's plug their laptop in a
  switch, the switch sees
  the mac address, consults the VMPS table and puts
  the port in the
  correct VLAN. No need to reconfigure the laptop, the
  HoD will keep its
  static IP address.
  
  Is this what you need?
  
  If you need to know more, just let me know. I'm glad
  to help.
  
  Ralf
  
  On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:07:36AM +, milind
  tare wrote:
   Dear All,
   
   
   I hv following setup in my company.
   
   
 6506---6506 2 nos. back to back
   connected.
   8 nos. 3508 connected to core.redundancy network.
  and
   the 3500 series for Accesses  swith's.
   
   my boss requirment is as follows;-
   
   i hv configures 20 VLAN's in my network and
  assigne
   static IP addresses to All users.
   
  Now our Company HOD's r roaming around the
  anywhere
   to give presentation or to attend the meetings
  with
   there LAPTOP's. 
   
   So now requirmnet is my boss need Floating Ip
   addresses for all HoD's. so if HoD go anyway where
  in
   the company everytime he can't change his IP
   address.coz there LAPTOP's r configures in there
   Respective VLAN's.
   
  Can anyone give me suggestion..is it possible
  in
   the setup.
   
   please reply.
   
   Thanks  Regards,
   Milind Tare
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Hosting Question [7:70255]

2003-06-06 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
Hi all

I have a question about hosting enviroments,

For example, let say I am running a hosting buissness and I have 15
customers that I host servers for, some of the servers like DNS and such are
shared for all, and some a just for one customer, all the customers have a
high speed link to my network 10Mbits or more.

What security setup would you recomend for this kind of enviroment


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RE: Online Audios/Videos of Networking Courses [7:70214]

2003-06-06 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
I thnik its great that you have taken the time to make these courses
avalible online, I am sure it will help a lot of pepole, my self included,

one sugestion, It would be better to download them if you had them on an FTP
Site.

Keep up the good work.
best regards,
Arni 


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Re: MPLS TE crash the router 2500 [7:70221]

2003-06-06 Thread Devrim Yener KUCUK
it is strange
i used this command many times and my routers never crashed :)

is this only happening on the 2500 platform?
and could you tell your  sh ver

regards

De

- Original Message -
From: alaerte Vidali 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:13 PM
Subject: MPLS TE crash the router 2500 [7:70221]


 After entering 'tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic' the router
 crash.


 The configuration is:

 ip cef
 mpls traffic-eng tunnels
 !
 interface loopback 0
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.255
 !
 interface se 0.23
 ip address 192.168.23.1 255.255.255.255
 mpls traffic-eng tunnels
 ip rsvp bandwidth 1000
 !
 router ospf 0
 network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback0
 mpls traffic-eng area 0
 !
 interface tunnel1
 ip unnumbered loopback 0
 tunnel destination 3.3.3.3
 tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng
 tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth 100
 tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 1 1

 !
 end

 When the command 'tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic' is
entered,
 the following messages appear and it is necessary reload the router
 (physically).

 8w5d: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel1, changed
state
 to down
 8w5d: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Loopback0, changed state to
 administratively down
 8w5d: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Loopback0, changed
 state to down
 8w5d: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Loopback0, changed state to up
 8w5d: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Loopback0, changed
 state to up
 8w5d: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 3.3.3.3 on Serial0.23 from EXCHANGE
to
 DOWN, Neighb
 or Down: Interface down or detached
 hbor Down: Interface down or detached
 8w5d: %OSPF-4-NONEIGHBOR: Received database description from unknown
 neighbor 3.3.3.3
 8w5d: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 3.3.3.3 on Serial0.23 from LOADING to

 FULL, Loading
  Done
 8w5d: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Tunnel1, changed state to up
 Queued messages:Local Timeout (control reg=0x118) Error, address:
0x20201FE
 at 0x34CEA50
  (PC)

 I also tried explicity path; the result is the same. And IS-IS too.

 Any Thoughts?




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Re: Online Audios/Videos of Networking Courses [7:70214]

2003-06-06 Thread Jim
Wow, I never thought I'd hear about RPI on this list. I'm class of 90. I was
an Aero when I was there, but now I'm doing networking. Funny how things
workout.



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 Hi Folks,

 I am a Professor in the Electrical, Computer and Systems Engineering
(ECSE)
 department at Rensselaer Polytechic Institute (RPI) -- our department is
 ranked in the top 15. My speciality is networking.

 This post is to inform you that I have recently collected all the videos
and
 audios of my networking classes and put them online, freely available:

 http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma/teaching/video_index.html

 For those who might prefer a CD-ROM set of the videos, that can also be
 ordered from this site. I hope this will be a useful reference for those
 working in the networking industry or interested to learn about or brush
up
 their knowledge of networking, but do not have time to take formal
 university courses. I am sure it will also help complement your CCNA
studies.

 Comments/Errata welcome! Good luck with your studies. If you find this
 resource useful, please recommend it to your friends and colleagues.
Thanks!

 best
 -Shivkumar
 ===
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Re: MPLS TE crash the router 2500 [7:70221]

2003-06-06 Thread alaerte Vidali
The version is:

R3#sh vers
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-P-L), Experimental Version
12.0(20011017:155337) [rraszuk-
New_reorg_oct17 109]

R3#sh flash

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   8303380  /c2500-p-l.20oct2001

The memory is:

16384K flash
16M DRAM

Thanks in Advance


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RE: Took the new switching this weekend [7:70225]

2003-06-06 Thread Pistone, Mike
When I took the CCNP Remote access exam last month I was surprised to see
the '?' work in the simulator questions.

It actually went even farther,  it grayed out the commands that don't apply
to the sim, and bolded the 4 or 5 that were possible answers.  Almost made
it TOO easy at that point.   


Mike




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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Took the new switching this weekend [7:70225]


The help function worked!? Cool! (I assume you mean you could type a
question mark and see possibilities?) Way to go Cisco. That's a good change,
considering the fact that real network engineers depend on the question
mark. :-)

Priscilla

Weaselboy wrote:
 
 I took the new switching beta this weekend (I'll find out if I
 passed
 sometime in the future).  Since I passed the old version, I
 figured I'm
 qualified to make a comparison.  
 
 The old exam was ridiculously heavy with type-in-the-command
 type
 questions - a pure memorization-fest.  The new one is much more
 theory
 and how technology works.  I also noticed a bunch of things
 covered that
 I would have thought belonged on the routing exam, but maybe
 they're
 trying to spread things around a bit more.  
 
 I had one fairly easy simulation question. You had to configure
 like
 four simple things, which means issuing several commands; but
 the help
 function worked, so you could hash things out pretty easily.  I
 always
 wonder about whether your suppose to save your configuration as
 part of
 the exercise; hopefully I don't get marked down for doing that!
 
 Here are some acronyms you should know:  MST, VRRP, RSTP, SPAN,
 CoS,
 HSRP, AVVID and VLAN Tunneling.  I would also make sure you
 understand
 how ACLs and the VLAN equivalent work (VLAN filtering maybe, I
 don't
 remember what it's called).  
 
 It didn't seem that hard, but I'll find out in a few months. 
 Anybody
 else take it?
 
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Fwd: RE: VPN authentication [7:70186]

2003-06-06 Thread maine dude
Can anyone help me?
 
Thanks

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Hi,
 
Thanks for your reply, however i know the wyse part ... the problem I have
is as follows
1700 brings up vpn connectivity but it requires two sets of passwords ie
groupid and grouppass then a userid userpass .
we can manually pass the userid/pass on the command line of the router .. is
there a way of automating it? since the user should not see this?
 
Thanks in advance for your help
DJ

Bosco Sachanandani  wrote:

From what I understand (and have done in a similar way in my network) when
the WYSE terminal sends a request for the remote host IP, and when that
reaches the router, the router in trying to route the packet to the remote
network (based on the routing table) will foward the packet to the ISDN
interface. When the ISDN interface realises that there is a packet for the
remote network, it will dial out automatically using the phone number and
authentication credentails.

No need for any config on the WYSE terminal.

BR
Bosco

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VPN authentication [7:70186]


Hi,

I hope that someone can help me with this, let me explain.

We have a remote site A with isdn dialup to the coporate vpn concentrator

we have a dumb box aka WYSE terminal ie thin client

this is connected to a switch
the switch is connected to a 1700 router with wic bri

we want it to dial on demand and connect fully so the user does not see any
authentication requests
the user request should be done automatically but i cant find how to do that
via config unless* brainstorming here* the type should be network instead of
client ???

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Upgrading PDM on a PIX firewall [7:70261]

2003-06-06 Thread Bruce Fyfe
I was trying to find out what the proper procedure for upgrading the PDM
on a PIX box is.  The documentation on Cisco's site cover installation
(including on an existing box) but it doesn't seem to address
specifically the upgrade.  Can I simply send the binary via TFTP?  The
Cisco documentation doesn't seem to specify whether it will affect the
firewall config or not.  I wouldn't assume that it would but we all know
what we get when we assume



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Re: Depth of study required for CCIE Written [7:70246]

2003-06-06 Thread Rajagopal Iyengar
Hello,
Please finish the CCNP Material that is available first.Then start with Lan
switching by Kennedy clark,Routing with TCP/IP Vol 1 2 to start with.Then
please do get in touch with me.
They are decent reading material to start with.
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 Dear All

 I am planning to take my CCIE written exams in near future.

 I have a few queries regarding the depth of knowledge required for the
 written exams on certain topics.

 1. ATM -- Do they go on for asking on config of ATM on Cisco ATM
switches
 or focus is on using ATM as a layer  2  tech. and configuring the routers
to
 use ATM VC's

 2. All Tpoics covered under Multiservice in CCIE Blueprint i.e

 Voice/Video (H323)
 codecs
 SS7
 RTP
 RTCP
 SIP
 MPLS

 As few of this topic requires a five day course in itself esp MPLS

 I would also like to know any good reference material for following topics
 covered under WAN

 WAN
 1. ISDN (LAPD, BRI/PRI framing, signaling, mapping, NI1s, dialer map,
 interface types, B/D channel, channel
 bonding)
 2. Frame Relay (LMIs, DLCI, PVC, framing, traffic shaping, FECN, BECN,
CIR,
 DE, Mapping, compression)
 3. X.25 (addressing, routing, LAPB, error control/recovery, windowing,
 signaling, mapping, SVC/PVC, Protocol
 Translation)
 4. ATM (PVC/SVC, AAL, SSCOP, UNI/NNI, ILMI, Cell format, QoS, RFC 1483,
 PNNI, mapping)
 5. Physical Layer (Synchronization, SONET, T1, E1, encoding)
 6. Leased Line Protocols (HDLC, PPP, Async  modems, compression)
 7. PoS
 8. DPT/SRP

 Your feedback on same would be really helpfull.

 Regards
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PIX, IPSEC, and RBGAN?? [7:70267]

2003-06-06 Thread Mary Kvitashvili
Has anyone successfully implemented IPSEC with a PIX hanging off of a RBGAN
satellite modem??

Test config:

PIX1--SatModem--Internet--PIX2  - fails to ping outside PIX2

PC--SatModem--Internet--PIX2  -- works ok

PIX1 cannot ping outside PIX2 (public ip).  But it can ping other IPs in
the same public ip range.

If I put a PC connected to the SatModem, it CAN ping outside interface of
PIX2.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Pixnewbie


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Activating both bearer channels [7:70265]

2003-06-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have searched the archives and attempted what they have suggested, but
to no avail I cannot bring up both bearer channels.  I am trying to
automatically activate both bearer channels automatically for a
dial-backup scenario.  I am using two 7200's with a crossover T-1 cable
between them and a 4 port BRI card in each one.  I am using a Telco
provided ISDN line instead of an ISDN simulator.  I am able to activate
the first channel without a problem, but I cannot bring the second one
up.  I have put a %10 load on the line, which should be enough to bring
up the second based on my config below.  I use pings to activate the
line, but I will use a floating static route when I complete my test
scenario.  I would appreciate any suggestions:

INITIATING ROUTERXXX
interface Serial4/3:0
 backup delay 3 10
 backup interface Dialer1
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no cdp enable

interface BRI3/3
 description 
 bandwidth 128
 no ip address
 ip load-sharing per-packet
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool-member 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 1110101 
 isdn spid2 1110101 111
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp multilink
 ppp timeout multilink link add 1
 ppp timeout multilink link remove 60
 multilink load-threshold 1 either

interface Dialer1
 ip address 192.168.2.2 255.255.255.0
 ip load-sharing per-packet
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 load-interval 30
 dialer pool 1
 dialer remote-name 
 dialer idle-timeout 60
 dialer string 8344578
 dialer load-threshold 1 either
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
 multilink load-threshold 1 either

RECEIVING ROUTERXXX

interface BRI3/3
 description XXX
 bandwidth 128
 no ip address
 ip load-sharing per-packet
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool-member 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 1110101 111
 isdn spid2 1110101 111
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap callin
 ppp multilink
 ppp timeout multilink link add 1
 ppp timeout multilink link remove 60
 multilink load-threshold 1 either

interface Dialer1
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 ip load-sharing per-packet
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer pool 1
 dialer remote-name X
 dialer idle-timeout 60
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
 ppp timeout multilink link add 1
 ppp timeout multilink link remove 60
 multilink load-threshold 1 either




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Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's a really dumb question which I should have an answer to, but I
really don't:

I'm looking at a serial interface, a 128k Frame Relay line.  The last time
the counters were reset was 4w4d ago.  Here are some vital stats of note:

txload and rxload: 3/255
502 input errors
255 CRC
239 frame
68 interface resets
2 carrier transitions

My question is, at what point do these statistics indicate a *problem*? 
How many interface resets is too many?  How many carrier transitions are
normal and acceptable?  At what point do I call the provider and complain?

BJ


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Re: Upgrading PDM on a PIX firewall [7:70261]

2003-06-06 Thread Mariusz T.
U?ytkownik Bruce Fyfe  napisa3 w wiadomo6ci
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I was trying to find out what the proper procedure for upgrading the PDM
 on a PIX box is.  The documentation on Cisco's site cover installation
 (including on an existing box) but it doesn't seem to address
 specifically the upgrade.  Can I simply send the binary via TFTP?  The
 Cisco documentation doesn't seem to specify whether it will affect the
 firewall config or not.  I wouldn't assume that it would but we all know
 what we get when we assume

Od: Mariusz T. 
Temat: Re: Upgrading PDM on a PIX firewall [7:70261]
Data: 6 czerwca 2003 16:34


U?ytkownik Bruce Fyfe  napisa3 w wiadomo6ci
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I was trying to find out what the proper procedure for upgrading the PDM
 on a PIX box is.  The documentation on Cisco's site cover installation
 (including on an existing box) but it doesn't seem to address
 specifically the upgrade.  Can I simply send the binary via TFTP?  The
 Cisco documentation doesn't seem to specify whether it will affect the
 firewall config or not.  I wouldn't assume that it would but we all know
 what we get when we assume


You type
copy ?
and what you get is:
copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash[:[image | pdm]]
so you can assume, that copy tftp: flash:pdm will do the job...

and it won't affect the pix configuration, why should it? It's just a
configuration editing software, just like configmaker, only located on the
pix flash for your (in)convenience

HTH
Mariusz




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Re: Upgrading PDM on a PIX firewall [7:70261]

2003-06-06 Thread Jay Dunn
The command is: copy tftp flash:pdm

Jay Dunn
IPI*GrammTech, Ltd.
http://www.ipi-gt.com
Nunquam Facilis Est

I was trying to find out what the proper procedure for upgrading the PDM
on a PIX box is.  The documentation on Cisco's site cover installation
(including on an existing box) but it doesn't seem to address
specifically the upgrade.  Can I simply send the binary via TFTP?  The
Cisco documentation doesn't seem to specify whether it will affect the
firewall config or not.  I wouldn't assume that it would but we all know
what we get when we assume



Bruce Fyfe, Network Engineer

LAKESIDE INDUSTRIES

(425) 313-2600

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Here's a really dumb question which I should have an answer to,
 but I
 really don't:
 
 I'm looking at a serial interface, a 128k Frame Relay line. 
 The last time
 the counters were reset was 4w4d ago.  Here are some vital
 stats of note:
 
 txload and rxload: 3/255
 502 input errors
 255 CRC
 239 frame
 68 interface resets
 2 carrier transitions
 
 My question is, at what point do these statistics indicate a
 *problem*?

A CRC error means that one or more bits got changed or dropped. A frame
error means that the frame didn't end on an 8-bit boundary, probably because
a bit got dropped. They are both caused by noise usually.

The amount of acceptable CRC and frame errors depends on the amount of
traffic. In the olden days we used to measure error rates on serial links
with a Bit Error Rate Tester (BERT). Although we don't tend to do that
anymore, the theory is still sound.

Of course, bits are gathered into frames and all modern troubleshooting
tools consider frames. Also, most troubleshooting tools show you the number
of bytes transmitted rather than the number of bits, but that's OK.

Anyway, one approximation you can use that is based on the theory and
caveats above is that you shouln't have more than one CRC or Frame error per
Megabyte of data received.

That was what we used at Network General (now Network Associates, makers of
the Sniffer) when we did our Network Health Checks.

You'll see the same threshold in some Cisco documentation also, mainly
because some Network General people migrated to Cisco.

You'll see other numbers too, though. :-) Another threshold that I've seen
is that no more than 1% of frames should be errored. In general, the concept
is to measure CRC and Frame errors as a ratio to good frames/bytes/bits.
Using bytes instead of frames lets you ignore the fact that you use
variable-sized frames.

 How many interface resets is too many?  How many carrier
 transitions are
 normal and acceptable?  At what point do I call the provider
 and complain?

Resets and transitions could be something you did, not the provider. Measure
those over time based on what you know was happening. For example, if most
of them happened while you were bringing up the link, you can probably
ignore them and maybe clear the counters so they go away. If the rest were
spread out over weeks, I would ignore them too. But you would want to
correlate this with other error reports, trouble tickets, etc.

Priscilla 

 
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.T destination pattern [7:70271]

2003-06-06 Thread neil K
Guys,

In a FXO  gateway scenario can we use a destination-pattern of .T under the
FXO port on the gateway so that we can call phone numbers less than 10
digits or more.

THE configuration is like this

Cisco 2600 (FXO) Cisco 2600 ( FXS)
|
|
|
|
 Telco   PBX


I have a Telco line coming into Cisco 2600 with FXO and want the dial tone
at the other 2600 with FXS ports.I have seen the CCO documentation of the
application but the problem is calling phone numbers which are less than 10
or more than 10 digits.

Any comments,

neil




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religious wars [7:70274]

2003-06-06 Thread Black Jack
Old timers will remember Mac vs DOS/Windows. Or UNIX vs DOS. Or Beta vs VHS.
More recent is Linux vs FreeBSD, or one flavor of Linux distribution vs
another. (See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990301 for example.
By the way, if you are not familiar with www.userfriendly.org, you gotta
check it out. Funniest geek-oriented comic strip this side of dilbert)

Anyway, try asking network types what their favorite TFTP server is...
then step back!


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RE: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Cotts
Problem is that you don't know if the issue is ongoing or a one time event.
Best to check counters every day. 
If you can view the stats on the CSU/DSU or Service Module or NM-CSU then
look for physical problems - errored seconds, etc. If part of your loop is
copper then also look for correlations such as errors when it rains.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]
 
 
 Here's a really dumb question which I should have an answer to, but I
 really don't:
 
 I'm looking at a serial interface, a 128k Frame Relay line.  
 The last time
 the counters were reset was 4w4d ago.  Here are some vital 
 stats of note:
 
 txload and rxload: 3/255
 502 input errors
 255 CRC
 239 frame
 68 interface resets
 2 carrier transitions
 
 My question is, at what point do these statistics indicate a 
 *problem*? 
 How many interface resets is too many?  How many carrier 
 transitions are
 normal and acceptable?  At what point do I call the provider 
 and complain?
 
 BJ
 
 
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RE: Took the new switching this weekend [7:70225]

2003-06-06 Thread Weaselboy
I didn't notice grayed out options, but the help function definitely
worked; I needed it to remember how to do one particular task...




On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 16:58, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 The help function worked!? Cool! (I assume you mean you could type a
 question mark and see possibilities?) Way to go Cisco. That's a good
change,
 considering the fact that real network engineers depend on the question
 mark. :-)
 
 Priscilla
 
 Weaselboy wrote:
  
  I took the new switching beta this weekend (I'll find out if I
  passed
  sometime in the future).  Since I passed the old version, I
  figured I'm
  qualified to make a comparison.  
  
  The old exam was ridiculously heavy with type-in-the-command
  type
  questions - a pure memorization-fest.  The new one is much more
  theory
  and how technology works.  I also noticed a bunch of things
  covered that
  I would have thought belonged on the routing exam, but maybe
  they're
  trying to spread things around a bit more.  
  
  I had one fairly easy simulation question. You had to configure
  like
  four simple things, which means issuing several commands; but
  the help
  function worked, so you could hash things out pretty easily.  I
  always
  wonder about whether your suppose to save your configuration as
  part of
  the exercise; hopefully I don't get marked down for doing that!
  
  Here are some acronyms you should know:  MST, VRRP, RSTP, SPAN,
  CoS,
  HSRP, AVVID and VLAN Tunneling.  I would also make sure you
  understand
  how ACLs and the VLAN equivalent work (VLAN filtering maybe, I
  don't
  remember what it's called).  
  
  It didn't seem that hard, but I'll find out in a few months. 
  Anybody
  else take it?
  
  The WB




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Re: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread MADMAN
My guess is that these counters are not incrementing and that at some 
point in the past 41/2 weeks you may have experienced a problem.  It 
doesn't take long for the counters to increment.

   Clear your counters and keep an eye on it if you suspect and WAN 
problem.  To answer your oringinal qestions the counters you listed 
should be 0, at least if you connected to Qwest;)

   Dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's a really dumb question which I should have an answer to, but I
 really don't:
 
 I'm looking at a serial interface, a 128k Frame Relay line.  The last time
 the counters were reset was 4w4d ago.  Here are some vital stats of note:
 
 txload and rxload: 3/255
 502 input errors
 255 CRC
 239 frame
 68 interface resets
 2 carrier transitions
 
 My question is, at what point do these statistics indicate a *problem*? 
 How many interface resets is too many?  How many carrier transitions are
 normal and acceptable?  At what point do I call the provider and complain?
 
 BJ
 
 
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Insufficient memory.. Thanks to all [7:70278]

2003-06-06 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Thanks to all who responded to the query.  Will give a shot one by one 
to see how it goes.

Thanks,
Rajesh




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Re: Depth of study required for CCIE Written [7:70246]

2003-06-06 Thread Brian
A lot of people have said that the time to try the written is not long
after cc*p completion, all that info is still pretty fresh in your head.
Add the few new things that are unique to the IE, and take a whack at it.


Brian

The path to a desireable destination
is often more difficult than the path to stay where you are.

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Rajagopal Iyengar wrote:

 Hello,
 Please finish the CCNP Material that is available first.Then start with Lan
 switching by Kennedy clark,Routing with TCP/IP Vol 1 2 to start with.Then
 please do get in touch with me.
 They are decent reading material to start with.
 --
 Regards,

 Rajagopal.
 95250-2463729/02502463729/912502463729.
 Swapnil Shah  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Dear All
 
  I am planning to take my CCIE written exams in near future.
 
  I have a few queries regarding the depth of knowledge required for the
  written exams on certain topics.
 
  1. ATM -- Do they go on for asking on config of ATM on Cisco ATM
 switches
  or focus is on using ATM as a layer  2  tech. and configuring the routers
 to
  use ATM VC's
 
  2. All Tpoics covered under Multiservice in CCIE Blueprint i.e
 
  Voice/Video (H323)
  codecs
  SS7
  RTP
  RTCP
  SIP
  MPLS
 
  As few of this topic requires a five day course in itself esp MPLS
 
  I would also like to know any good reference material for following
topics
  covered under WAN
 
  WAN
  1. ISDN (LAPD, BRI/PRI framing, signaling, mapping, NI1s, dialer map,
  interface types, B/D channel, channel
  bonding)
  2. Frame Relay (LMIs, DLCI, PVC, framing, traffic shaping, FECN, BECN,
 CIR,
  DE, Mapping, compression)
  3. X.25 (addressing, routing, LAPB, error control/recovery, windowing,
  signaling, mapping, SVC/PVC, Protocol
  Translation)
  4. ATM (PVC/SVC, AAL, SSCOP, UNI/NNI, ILMI, Cell format, QoS, RFC 1483,
  PNNI, mapping)
  5. Physical Layer (Synchronization, SONET, T1, E1, encoding)
  6. Leased Line Protocols (HDLC, PPP, Async  modems, compression)
  7. PoS
  8. DPT/SRP
 
  Your feedback on same would be really helpfull.
 
  Regards
  Swapnil Shah




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RE: religious wars [7:70274]

2003-06-06 Thread Joshua Vince
PumpKIN TFTP!!! 

www.klever.net



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: religious wars [7:70274]


Old timers will remember Mac vs DOS/Windows. Or UNIX vs DOS. Or Beta vs
VHS. More recent is Linux vs FreeBSD, or one flavor of Linux
distribution vs another. (See
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990301 for example. By the
way, if you are not familiar with www.userfriendly.org, you gotta check
it out. Funniest geek-oriented comic strip this side of dilbert)

Anyway, try asking network types what their favorite TFTP server is...
then step back!




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ntp not sync with server [7:70283]

2003-06-06 Thread Pichit Ruangroj
Hi,
I've got a prob with ntp. The ntp is configured but the command ntp
clock-period . didn't appear when doing show running command.
I've tried reload, disable/enable the ntp but never work. I saw the offset
value is very high compare with the normal one. What is the cause to make it
high like this? Please help.

pbi_vgw_003#sh run | be ntp
ntp update-calendar
ntp server 203.113.94.20
ntp server 203.113.94.19

pbi_vgw_003#sh ntp as

  address  ref clock st  when  poll reach  delay
offsetdisp
 ~203.113.94.20203.113.94.1  257640 1.12699.9
16000.
 ~203.113.94.19203.113.94.1  242640 1.0833.67
16000.
 * master (synced), # master (unsynced), + selected, - candidate, ~
configured

The another device is on the same subnet  never get a problem


pbi_vgw_001#sh run | be ntp
ntp clock-period 17179504
ntp update-calendar
ntp server 203.113.94.20
ntp server 203.113.94.19

pbi_vgw_001#sh ntp as

  address ref clockst  when  poll reach  delay
offsetdisp
*~203.113.94.20203.113.94.1  2   281  1024  377 1.11.28
0.3
+~203.113.94.19203.113.94.1  2   259  1024  377 1.16.81
0.4
 * master (synced), # master (unsynced), + selected, - candidate, ~
configured




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RE: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Daniel Cotts wrote:
 
 Problem is that you don't know if the issue is ongoing or a one
 time event.
 Best to check counters every day. 
 If you can view the stats on the CSU/DSU or Service Module or
 NM-CSU then
 look for physical problems - errored seconds, etc. If part of
 your loop is
 copper then also look for correlations such as errors when it
 rains.

Seriously? When it rains? Why is that an issue? And how about fiber-optic,
it could be affected by rain too, couldn't it?

A local company here in Oregon spent a bunch of money to put a fiber-optic
link under the ground out to a foreman's office at a timber company.
Unfortunately, they put this link underneath the path where the big lumber
trucks drive in and out, causing lots of mud and guck and standing water.
The fiber-optic link had all sorts of problems!

So then they tried wireless. Guess what? A wireless signal doesn't go
through tall trucks stacked with logs very well.

Last I heard, the final solution was a copper link in a sealed conduit. It
exceeds the supposed 100 meter limitation, (which is why they had originally
thought fiber), but it works fine and was cheapter than replacing the
water-logged fiber equipment.

Just a fun story from the Pacific Northwest that I thought you would all
enjoy. :-) And guess what, it hasn't rained here for almost 2 weeks! Hooray.

Priscilla


 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:13 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]
  
  
  Here's a really dumb question which I should have an answer
 to, but I
  really don't:
  
  I'm looking at a serial interface, a 128k Frame Relay line.  
  The last time
  the counters were reset was 4w4d ago.  Here are some vital 
  stats of note:
  
  txload and rxload: 3/255
  502 input errors
  255 CRC
  239 frame
  68 interface resets
  2 carrier transitions
  
  My question is, at what point do these statistics indicate a 
  *problem*? 
  How many interface resets is too many?  How many carrier 
  transitions are
  normal and acceptable?  At what point do I call the provider 
  and complain?
  
  BJ
  
 
 
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CIM lab serial number [7:70284]

2003-06-06 Thread Pichit Ruangroj
Does anyone give me the serial number of Cisco Interactive Mentor CCIE
Expert Labs: Multiprotocol Challenge. My package is lost only CD left. So I
cannot install it without serial number. Please give me one. Thanks




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Routers and HSRP [7:70285]

2003-06-06 Thread Robert Perez
Does anybody see an issue setting up HSRP to work with a 3725 and 7206 rtr
or do the routers have to be the same model?

For example,
DS-3 pipe in the 7206 
and
4 T-1's in the 3725 
T-1's for failover with BGP on all the pipes including ds-3

or would I need either two 7206's or 3725's??

thx..




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RE: Routers and HSRP [7:70285]

2003-06-06 Thread Ben W
You can do HSRP with different models.  Don't need to be the same model of
router.

Robert Perez wrote:
 
 Does anybody see an issue setting up HSRP to work with a 3725
 and 7206 rtr
 or do the routers have to be the same model?
 
 For example,
 DS-3 pipe in the 7206 
 and
 4 T-1's in the 3725 
 T-1's for failover with BGP on all the pipes including ds-3
 
 or would I need either two 7206's or 3725's??
 
 thx..
 
 




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RE: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Cotts
I've seen troubles with T-1 loops in wet weather due to moisture getting
into poor splices or repeaters. Actually any physical fault in the cable -
could be squirrels chewing the insulation or (in rural areas) hunters with
poor aim.
Many years ago I worked for Ma Bell in Brooklyn, NY. This was before fiber
optic. T-1 links were all copper with repeaters about every 1/3 mile.
(Others can be more specific as to seperation between repeaters.) Repeaters
were in housings in manholes. After any maintenance the housing was supposed
to be pressurized with compressed air. Anyway, either due to poor seals or
workers with an attitude - every time it rained T-1s would start to fail as
the manhole(s) filled with water. In time we knew the order of failure -
depending on the repeaters location in the housing. Bottom first, etc.

 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Daniel Cotts wrote:
 then also look for correlations such as errors when it
  rains.
PO asked: 
 Seriously? When it rains? Why is that an issue? And how about 
 fiber-optic,
 it could be affected by rain too, couldn't it?
 
 A local company here in Oregon spent a bunch of money to put 
 a fiber-optic
 link under the ground out to a foreman's office at a timber company.
 Unfortunately, they put this link underneath the path where 
 the big lumber
 trucks drive in and out, causing lots of mud and guck and 
 standing water.
 The fiber-optic link had all sorts of problems!
 
 So then they tried wireless. Guess what? A wireless signal doesn't go
 through tall trucks stacked with logs very well.
 
 Last I heard, the final solution was a copper link in a 
 sealed conduit.




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7505 problem, microcode? [7:70288]

2003-06-06 Thread Lamy Alexandre
Is there a good Samaritan who can help me?

I am looking for a microcode for my 7505 router.

I have hundreds IOS images, but there is a microcode missing.

I think that it is cip28.12.bin

take a look at this problem:



sho diagbus
Slot 0:
Physical slot 0, ~physical slot 0xF, logical slot 0, CBus 0
Microcode Status 0x4
Master Enable, LED, WCS Loaded
Board is analyzed
Pending I/O Status: None
EEPROM format version 1
FEIP2 controller, HW rev 2.11, board revision E0
Serial number: 17934563  Part number: 73-1684-04
Test history: 0x00RMA number: 00-00-00
Flags: cisco 7000 board; 7500 compatible

EEPROM contents (hex):
  0x20: 01 20 02 0B 01 11 A8 E3 49 06 94 04 00 00 00 00
  0x30: 70 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Slot database information:
Flags: 0x4  Insertion time: 0x2C68 (00:33:37 ago)

Controller Memory Size: 32 MBytes DRAM, 2048 KBytes SRAM

PA Bay 0 Information:
Fast-Ethernet PA, 1 ports, 100BaseTX-ISL
EEPROM format version 1
HW rev 1.04, Board revision B0
Serial number: 15811504  Part number: 73-2570-02

PA Bay 1 Information:
Fast-Ethernet PA, 1 ports, 100BaseTX-ISL
EEPROM format version 1
HW rev 1.04, Board revision B0
Serial number: 15810930  Part number: 73-2570-02

--Boot log begin--

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) VIP Software (SVIP-DW-M), Version 12.2(16), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 06-Mar-03 23:12 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x60010930, data-base: 0x603E


--Boot log end--

Slot 1:
Physical slot 1, ~physical slot 0xE, logical slot 1, CBus 0
Internal Instruction Error, Microcode Status 0x5
Master Enable, LED, WCS DBUS Cmd Enable, WCS Loading, WCS Loaded
Board is disabled wedged
Pending I/O Status: None
EEPROM format version 1
VIP2 R5K controller, HW rev 2.03, board revision A0
Serial number: 18571089  Part number: 73-2167-06
Test history: 0x00RMA number: 00-00-00
Flags: cisco 7000 board; 7500 compatible

EEPROM contents (hex):
  0x20: 01 1E 02 03 01 1B 5F 51 49 08 77 06 00 00 00 00
  0x30: 50 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Slot database information:
Flags: 0x291Insertion time: 0x2C68 (00:33:43 ago)

VIP Controller Memory Size: Unknown

2 crashes since restart.
Last crash context (*Jun 06 2003 06:01:07):
$0 : , AT : , v0 : , v1 : 
a0 : , a1 : , a2 : , a3 : 
t0 : , t1 : , t2 : , t3 : 
t4 : , t5 : , t6 : , t7 : 
s0 : , s1 : , s2 : , s3 : 
s4 : , s5 : , s6 : , s7 : 
t8 : , t9 : , k0 : , k1 : 
gp : , sp : , s8 : , ra : 
EPC : , ErrorEPC : , SREG : 
Cause  (Code 0x0): Interrupt exception


--Boot log begin--

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) VIP Software (SVIP-DW-M), Version 12.2(16), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 06-Mar-03 23:12 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x60010930, data-base: 0x603E


PA Bay 1 Upstream PCI-PCI Bridge, Handle=1
DEC21050 bridge chip, config=0x0
(0x00):dev, vendor id   = 0x00011011
(0x04):status, command  = 0x42800147
 Signaled System Error  on primary bus
(0x08):class code, revid= 0x06040002
(0x0C):hdr, lat timer, cls  = 0x0001
(0x18):sec lat,cls  bus no = 0x00020200
(0x1C):sec status, io base  = 0x0380F0A0
 Data Parity Detected   on secondary bus
(0x20):mem base  limit = 0x03F00200
(0x24):prefetch membase/lim = 0xFE00
(0x3C):bridge ctrl  = 0x0003
(0x40):arb/serr, chip ctrl  = 0x
(0x44):pri/sec trgt wait t. = 0x
(0x48):sec write attmp ctr  = 0x00FF
(0x4C):pri write attmp ctr  = 0x00FF


=== Flushing messages (00:00:05 UTC Mon Mar 1 1993) ===

Buffered messages:
Queued messages:
00:00:02: %VIP-3-SVIP_PMAERROR_INTERRUPT: A PMA Error occured.
00:00:05: %VIP-3-PCI_BUS0_SYSERROR: PCI bus 0 system error.
00:00:05: %VIP-3-PCI_BUS2_PARITYERROR: PCI bus 2 parity error.PMA error
register
 = 0221
PCI SERR
PCI master address = 220
$0 : , AT : 34210A00, v0 : 0001, v1 : 
a0 : 60BC4820, a1 : 5200, a2 : 60461C98, a3 : 0040
t0 : 0010, t1 : 3400C101, t2 : 3400C100, t3 : 00FF
t4 : 60105710, t5 : 00F8, t6 : 609AC9A4, 

Re: Serial interface stats and troubleshooting [7:70266]

2003-06-06 Thread Dave Jacoby
Clear the counters and what them.  If the errors continue to increment, then
you have a problem.  If not, then don't worry about it.

Dave


 wrote in message
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 Here's a really dumb question which I should have an answer to, but I
 really don't:

 I'm looking at a serial interface, a 128k Frame Relay line.  The last time
 the counters were reset was 4w4d ago.  Here are some vital stats of note:

 txload and rxload: 3/255
 502 input errors
 255 CRC
 239 frame
 68 interface resets
 2 carrier transitions

 My question is, at what point do these statistics indicate a *problem*?
 How many interface resets is too many?  How many carrier transitions are
 normal and acceptable?  At what point do I call the provider and complain?

 BJ

 
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RE: 7505 problem, microcode? [7:70288]

2003-06-06 Thread Lamy Alexandre
forgot it for a cip28-12...

but, I dont no what is the problem


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RE: religious wars [7:70274]

2003-06-06 Thread Dom
Anyone which works and can handle files 16M - Cisco, Kiwi, 3Com etc etc

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
Zoo Keeper - SysDom Technologies


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Subject: religious wars [7:70274]


Old timers will remember Mac vs DOS/Windows. Or UNIX vs DOS. Or Beta vs
VHS. More recent is Linux vs FreeBSD, or one flavor of Linux
distribution vs another. (See
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990301 for example. By the
way, if you are not familiar with www.userfriendly.org, you gotta check
it out. Funniest geek-oriented comic strip this side of dilbert)

Anyway, try asking network types what their favorite TFTP server is...
then step back!




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Re: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]

2003-06-06 Thread Bikespace
Thanks Ross/Richard,

Some useful documents found with their search engine. I'll hopefully get to
try the suggestions out this week.

Regards,

Bikespace


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 Bikespace,
 Just spent a day testing exactly this...spooky

 You're correct , Cisco's cannot put a multicast mac in its arp cache
 dynamically - BUT - you CAN put STATIC ARP entries in a Cisco pointing to
a
 multicast mac.( Even if Layer3 is unicast)

 However there are some small perfomance points here ( only small !)
 Turning CEF on does have some benefits but not huge amounts.

 I threw 100 * 512 byte UPD segments at the Cisco for 5 mins while using a
 static multicast arp entry - It coped just fine.


 HTH Rich




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Re: Multi-home [7:70243]

2003-06-06 Thread Rajagopal Iyengar
Was just discussing it among my collegues.Use the following BGP  use a 1760
instead of an additional 2620.

Rajagopal.
Kenny Ho  wrote in message
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 There is one problem the 2620 can't handle 2 MB of voice traffic.  That is
 why my provider is giving us another 2620 to offload the traffic to
another
 router.  How should I set this configuration?  Thanks

 Regards,
 Kengie


 From: Brian W.
 To: Kenny Ho ,
 Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:49:23 -0700
 
 I assume now if you look at your routers config, there is a line that
 starts
 with something like:
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0, and the next argument would either be the
 interface name the e1 connects to or the ip address on the isp's side of
 the
 e1.  In the event you get a second e1 from the same provider, the easiest
 way to do it is to get both e1s on the same router on your side and on
the
 isp's side, then add a second ip route statement like the one above, with
 the interface you add the second e1 to as the last argument.  If you have
a
 2620 router, they have 2 wic slots, so youd just need to obtain an e1 wic
 for the other slot, then connect it like you did the first.  So, suppose
 you
 had 2 e1s hooked up at this point, all you'd need is, assuming the
 interfaces are serial0 and serial1:
 
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s0
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s1
 
  Brian
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kenny Ho
 To: ;
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
 
 
   Hi Brian,
  
   Sounds like a good solution, but how do split the traffic between the
 serial
   ports.  How do I split the bandwidth between two 2620 routes?  Many
 thanks!
  
   Regards,
   Kafai
  
  
   From: Brian W.
   To: Kengie ,
   Subject: Re: Multi-home [7:70243]
   Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:28 -0700
   
   Well you could take the easy way out and just get a second e1 with
the
 same
   provider, assuming your router has an empty serial interface, and
 default
   route to both links, that'll usually work fine.  Depending on your
 router
   youll need to either get a card with an integrated csu, or an
external
 one.
   If you want to bring in a different provider, that usually entails
bgp,
 see
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_
 c/ipcprt2/1cdbgp.htm
   for some info if you haven't read up.
   
Bri
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Kengie
   To:
   Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 PM
   Subject: Multi-home [7:70243]
   
   
 Dear All,

 I have a problem with our ISP link.  I am now approaching our E1
   bandwidth.
 How can I upgrade my bandwidth?  Do I need to add another CSU/DSU
 for
 another E1?  And If I apply for another ISP provider, how
configure
 my
   cisco
 to switch to the other gateway when the other one is fully
utilize.
   Reason
 is that the new ISP provider would give me a new set of IP.  I
only
 want
   to
 use the bandwidth.  Many thanks.

 Regards,
 Kengie
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