Re: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread
I concur, even if you are a consarned top poster. ;-

As I understand it, the IOS version chosen for the CCIE Lab  is done so for
the purpose of  allowing for the possibility of testing certain features.
The proctors ( or at least those with whom I had my discussions ) are
adamant that any given lab can be configured using the particular IOS, and
that there are no bugs involving features that are tested.

That said, this newsgroup also serves as a general Cisco informational
group. Non lab topics have always been a part of the thrill of this group,
or at least it has been for me, for the last 4 years or so. There is a list
dedicated to CCIE study, which has a different tone, and it a bit less free
form ( and a lot less fun, IMHO ) than this one. You can check the
groupstudy web site for the archives to get an idea of the flavor.


Reimer, Fred  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Let me set the record straight.  My only goal here is to prepare and
succeed
 in passing the Cisco CCIE written and lab exams.  I know that there are
 features and options that are available in certain versions of IOS, and
 those options can be, and are likely un-useful, to CCIE candidates.
 However, it should be the focus of this group to understand and comprehend
 the specific feature available in the IOS releases that are used in the
 written and lab exams.  It makes no sense, and in a certain view is
 detrimental, to bring up features that are only available in versions of
IOS
 that will not be used in the testing criteria.

 If there have been any features that are available in the exams that I
 incorrectly misrepresented, then please correct me.  I will be taking the
 written and lab exams in the near future, and would definitely benefit
from
 the feedback of this group.  I don't think it is useful to inject features
 that are available in IOS versions that will not be used in the testing
into
 this discussion.

 Again, correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm new to this group, so this may be out
 of line...


 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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 -Original Message-
 From: Reimer, Fred
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:30 PM
 To: Luan Nguyen; 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
know,
 see
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
 Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that we
 configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

 I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically behind
in
 IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
version
 specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
 support 12.2 until this Fall...


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 -Original Message-
 From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:02 PM
 To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Uhm,
 Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
 don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
 stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
 command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
 route any longer.
 Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
 configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.
 interface Tunnel10
  bandwidth 1500
  ip unnumbered Loopback1
  ip mtu 1440
  ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
  ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
  keepalive 10 4
  tunnel source 172.16.1.140
  tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
  bridge-group 1
  bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

 But it does say this :
 CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
 % This command is an unreleased and unsupported 

Re: running GRE/IPSEC between PE routers [7:72764]

2003-07-23 Thread
tunnel? what tunnel? your show ip int brief does not reveal a tunnel. your
provider is where the tunnel is? So PE1 and PE2 are your CE peers?

I've done GRE tunnels across the internet with study partners, and it works
just fine.

can your CE routers ping eachother? If not, where does the routing break
down. traceroute is useful here.

What are the default routes that your Sun machines are using?

troubleshooting 101.


Luan Nguyen  wrote in message
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 Hello,
 Anyone knows if you need to do anything special on the tunnel link for
 this to work? Like run tag-switching there for example?
 I have 2 cisco 2651xm acting as PE and have a GRE with IPSEC transport
 mode between them.  The CE has all the routes to the other CE, mBGP look
 good, everything look good from the show perspective, but I just can't
 source ping or ping from one sun box behind one CE to the other one.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 -luan

 I have a set up like this:
 cisco2621Aethernet/BGPPE1GRE/IPSEC---PE2Ethernet
 /BGP---cisco2621C
 running eigrp inside the tunnel to advertise the loopback.
 PEs = 2651xm running 12.3.1a enterprise 3DES.
 Traceroute die at the PE.

 Here are some show routes

 2621A#show ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
 inter
 area
* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is 192.168.1.1 to network 0.0.0.0

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 C   10.242.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1
 B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.1, 00:27:08
  192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
 S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.1.1
 2621A#show ip int brief
 Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status

  Protocol
 FastEthernet0/0192.168.1.2 YES manual up

  up
 FastEthernet0/110.242.1.1  YES manual up

  up
 2621C#show ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
 inter
 area
* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is 192.168.2.1 to network 0.0.0.0

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.1, 00:23:37
 C   10.242.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
  192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
 S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.2.1

 2651XM1#show ip route vrf customer1

 Routing Table: customer1
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
 level-2
ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
 route
o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is not set

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.2, 00:29:08
 B   10.242.2.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.252, 00:17:55
  192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0

 2651XM2#show ip route vrf customer1

 Routing Table: customer1
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
 level-2
ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
 route
o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is not set

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.253, 00:15:45
 B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.2, 00:15:13
  192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0




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CCIE required in UAE [7:72776]

2003-07-23 Thread afshin mehrpouya
A CCIE is required for a senior network consultation position in UAE.


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RE: OT - Ethernet Fire Alarm [7:72749]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
First thought.   A fire breaks out in the Core network area.  Perhaps a 6509
bursts into flames.  That brings the network down or at the very least makes
the spanning tree crap the bed for a good minute and a half.  The alarm
doesn't go off (at least not in a timely manner) and people die.  Looking
back do you wish you had just nodded when they said someone was cabling the
building for fire/emergency alarms?

Just my thought.  

David


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BCRAN 640-605 V.S. 505 ?'s [7:72774]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
I've looked at some of the listed requirements for the 605 and 505 BCRAN
exams and they look almost identical.  The list for the newer exam 642-821
has dsl and cable modem stuff.  I'm using the 505 study material..I'm
taking the 605 and wondering if I might see DSL stuff anyway.  Anyone take
605 recently?

David


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Re: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
Fred,

A few years ago this list was opened up to questions and discussions that
aren't necessarily related to certification. In fact, discussions don't even
have to be Cisco-related, although they usually are.  You'll quite often see
stuff like this around here, and many times people simply want to know if
something can be done, not whether it's a good idea for it to be done.  :-)

I have my doubts that this could be configured in such a way as to be
reliable and stable, but who knows. I even gave a suggestion earlier that I
now think won't work. I'm too tired at the moment to try it out, though.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Reimer, Fred 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]


 12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
know,
 see
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
 Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that we
 configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

 I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically behind
in
 IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
version
 specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
 support 12.2 until this Fall...

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


 Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
 Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050


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 -Original Message-
 From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:02 PM
 To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Uhm,
 Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
 don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
 stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
 command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
 route any longer.
 Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
 configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.
 interface Tunnel10
  bandwidth 1500
  ip unnumbered Loopback1
  ip mtu 1440
  ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
  ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
  keepalive 10 4
  tunnel source 172.16.1.140
  tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
  bridge-group 1
  bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

 But it does say this :
 CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
 % This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

 -luan


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Reimer, Fred
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Wow, I hope you don't try that on your CCIE lab!  Last I heard, bridging
 was
 not supported on tunnel interfaces.  At least it's not on the 12.2(15)T5
 running on a 2651XM router I just tested.  If you find a (recent,
 supported)
 version of IOS that supports bridge-group in a tunnel interface please
 let
 me know.

 I think proxy ARP is more what is needed here, if we are talking about
 IP
 traffic.  If not, then IOS should support the other protocol in the
 tunnel
 (it supports AppleTalk, Banyan VINES,CLNS, DECnet, IP, or IPX).  If it's
 raw NetBIOS or SNA, then setup DLSW peers...

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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 -Original Message-
 From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Uhm.  Never done this or heard of this before.  I would just do
 something like:
 Interface LAN 1
 Bridge-group 1
 Interface tunnel 1
 Source WAN
 Destination REMOTE_WAN
 Bridge-group 1

 Since, concurrent routing and bridging makes it possible to both route
 and bridge a specific protocol on separate interfaces within a router,
 then WAN just route and LAN/Tunnel just bridge :)

 If that not work for you, then maybe 

Re: a song for all of us [7:72729]

2003-07-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 10:06 PM + 7/22/03, annlee wrote:
You're feeling better now, eh? Or is it the medications?

Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
  Don't forget relevant folk:

 Pete Seeger: This LAN is Your LAN
 Kingston Trio:  MTA (triple duty for email, token management, and
  looping)
 Peter Paul  Mary: If I had a token, I'd ring it in the morning

  And surely there must be a version of Alice's Restaurant sung by Cisco
   Sales.


My central air conditioning works again...and the pain pills do help 
the twinge left in my leg.




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ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
Hi,

I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75 hours!)

Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash and it seems
ok. 

Boot and sho ver follows.

Just seeing if anyone had any input...

Thanks
Rusty

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
SOFT
WARE (fc2)
Copyright (c) 1994-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 32 bit mode with parity disabled

program load complete, entry point: 0x80008000, size: 0x843438
Self decompressing the image : #.##[OK]

%ERR-1-GT64010: Fatal error, PCI Master abort
 cause=0x0300E483, mask=0x0CD01F00, real_cause=0x0400
 bus_err_high=0x, bus_err_low=0x3100, addr_decode_err=0x1FEE

  Restricted Rights Legend

Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.

   cisco Systems, Inc.
   170 West Tasman Drive
   San Jose, California 95134-1706



Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:06: %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of .0c86.2235 has
  been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify MAC
  addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow the
  use of this address as a default.
00:00:07: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:00:10: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Router
Router
Routersho ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc2)

Router uptime is 0 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Router




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Re: BCRAN 640-605 V.S. 505 ?'s [7:72774]

2003-07-23 Thread wisnu
Yes,

for 640-605, the DSL and cable modem not include yet

thanks


David Vital  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've looked at some of the listed requirements for the 605 and 505 BCRAN
 exams and they look almost identical.  The list for the newer exam 642-821
 has dsl and cable modem stuff.  I'm using the 505 study material..I'm
 taking the 605 and wondering if I might see DSL stuff anyway.  Anyone take
 605 recently?

 David




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RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Bosco Sachanandani
I had the same problem with my 3620 although I am using a different IOS. It
throws up this error and then re-boots. After that it seems to boot up okay
the second time. Functionality too is normal.

I did not really have much time to figure it out since had to place this
router in the network immediately. Since you have higlighted it, any views
would be great.

// Bosco

-Original Message-
From: Wilmes, Rusty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ios upgrade... [7:72779]


Hi,

I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75 hours!)

Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash and it seems
ok. 

Boot and sho ver follows.

Just seeing if anyone had any input...

Thanks
Rusty

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
SOFT
WARE (fc2)
Copyright (c) 1994-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 32 bit mode with parity disabled

program load complete, entry point: 0x80008000, size: 0x843438
Self decompressing the image : #.##[OK]

%ERR-1-GT64010: Fatal error, PCI Master abort
 cause=0x0300E483, mask=0x0CD01F00, real_cause=0x0400
 bus_err_high=0x, bus_err_low=0x3100, addr_decode_err=0x1FEE

  Restricted Rights Legend

Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.

   cisco Systems, Inc.
   170 West Tasman Drive
   San Jose, California 95134-1706



Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:06: %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of .0c86.2235 has
  been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify MAC
  addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow the
  use of this address as a default.
00:00:07: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:00:10: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Router
Router
Routersho ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc2)

Router uptime is 0 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Router




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RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Ganesh I
Rusty,

Not sure about it. Why don't you try to load the image again from a TFTP
and see if you getting this error again.

Thanks
Ganesh

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Hi,

I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75 hours!)

Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash and it
seems
ok. 

Boot and sho ver follows.

Just seeing if anyone had any input...

Thanks
Rusty

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
SOFT
WARE (fc2)
Copyright (c) 1994-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 32 bit mode with parity disabled

program load complete, entry point: 0x80008000, size: 0x843438
Self decompressing the image : #.##[OK]

%ERR-1-GT64010: Fatal error, PCI Master abort
 cause=0x0300E483, mask=0x0CD01F00, real_cause=0x0400
 bus_err_high=0x, bus_err_low=0x3100,
addr_decode_err=0x1FEE

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Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:06: %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of .0c86.2235
has
  been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify MAC
  addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow the
  use of this address as a default.
00:00:07: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:00:10: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Router
Router
Routersho ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc2)

Router uptime is 0 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Router




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How difference in Layer2 and Layer3 interface [7:72784]

2003-07-23 Thread soft map
Hi

I configure vlan 100 at vlan data mode,when I exit from
vlan database mode, sh run inter vlan 100, but I can’t
see any thing about vlan100, But “sh vlan bri” is ok. So I think
the Vlan100 is Layer2 interface now.
 
The next,

Configure term
inter vlan 100
end

and now,the vlan100 was became layer3 interface? But I not
configure any IP address at vlan100,is true?

Thanks

softmap



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RE: MPLS simulated lab at home [7:72759]

2003-07-23 Thread alaerte Vidali
I like the starting point in Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee book (All
in One CCIE.

MPLS and VPN worked great in our lab, with 2500 routers.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to reproduce MPLS Traffic Engineering on
2500. The router crashes.

Hope Helps.


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Exam retires [7:72785]

2003-07-23 Thread Tshepo Kowane (TO)
Retired Exam   Last Day
to Register   Related
Certification(s)   Current
(Replacement) Exam 
 
640-841 Foundation   30Sep03   CCNP, CCDP   642-891 COMP 
 
640-589 CCNP Recertification   30Sep03   CCNP   642-891 COMP 
 
640-529 CCDP Recertification   30Sep03   CCDP   642-891 COMP 
 
640-607 CCNA   30Sep03   CCNA   640-801 CCNA 
 
640-100 MCNS   30Sep03   CCSP, CCIP-elective, Cisco Firewall, VPN, IDS
Specialist   642-501 SECUR 
 
9E0-111 CSPFA   30Sep03   CCSP, CCIP-elective, Cisco Firewall
Specialist   642-521 CSPFA 
 
9E0-121 CSVPN   30Sep03   CCSP, CCIP-elective, Cisco VPN Specialist
642-511 CSVPN 
 
9E0-131 CSI   30Sep03   CCSP, CCIP-elective   642-541 CSI 

South afrika contact 0721194098 for Practice Exams

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Subject: CCIE required in UAE [7:72776]


A CCIE is required for a senior network consultation position in UAE.


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certification expire [7:72786]

2003-07-23 Thread Justin Vo
Dear All,

I would like to know what happen if my CCNA expire but i have two passed
exams of the CCNP. Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
or can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?

or even if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
good.

Much appreciate.
Justin Vo
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Re: BCRAN 640-605 V.S. 505 ?'s [7:72774]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
A.   Thanks.  That's good to know.

David


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Re: Starting off towards a CCNP [7:72734]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
I'm gonna deviate from the norm on this.  I have taken the BSCI and
Switching exams in the last month. I think the study material you have would
likely be fine for those except you need to add Is-Is to the routing info. 
I think that you could hunker down and get ready for the switching exam
before they change it September 7.  once they change it You will have to
either get new study material or supplement it more than for the current set
of exams.  But like I said, I would knock off the Swiitching one first since
(my opinion) it is easier.  Get it out of the way before it changes.  The
Routing exam isn't supposed to change all that much.

David


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RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread Luan Nguyen
Hello,
Didn't mean anything - just some information in case you guys not just
study but doing work for your company also. And like John said, I was
curious to see if you could do broadcast over the tunnel since when talk
about GRE, mostly it could implement multicast and not a mention of
broadcast.  There's no right or wrong - just information. Didn't mean to
upset anyone
Guess I am a bit different, I don't want to take the ccie lab any more
:) too tired of that - just want to learn more about tech in general
12.2.15T5 is fine - we were using that T train anyway, just ran across
some bugs that prompt us to go with 12.3.1.  If you are in the vpn
business, then this 12.3 code is quite good since it supports vam2
card...etc
To me personally, those kind of questions sometime good - since those
could be asked by the customers

-luan


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John Neiberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Fred,

A few years ago this list was opened up to questions and discussions
that
aren't necessarily related to certification. In fact, discussions don't
even
have to be Cisco-related, although they usually are.  You'll quite often
see
stuff like this around here, and many times people simply want to know
if
something can be done, not whether it's a good idea for it to be done.
:-)

I have my doubts that this could be configured in such a way as to be
reliable and stable, but who knows. I even gave a suggestion earlier
that I
now think won't work. I'm too tired at the moment to try it out, though.

John

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]


 12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
know,
 see
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
 Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that
we
 configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

 I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically
behind
in
 IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
version
 specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
 support 12.2 until this Fall...

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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 -Original Message-
 From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:02 PM
 To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Uhm,
 Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
 don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
 stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
 command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have
that
 route any longer.
 Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
 configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.
 interface Tunnel10
  bandwidth 1500
  ip unnumbered Loopback1
  ip mtu 1440
  ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
  ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
  keepalive 10 4
  tunnel source 172.16.1.140
  tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
  bridge-group 1
  bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

 But it does say this :
 CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
 % This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

 -luan


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Of
 Reimer, Fred
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Wow, I hope you don't try that on your CCIE lab!  Last I heard,
bridging
 was
 not supported on tunnel interfaces.  At least it's not on the
12.2(15)T5
 running on a 2651XM router I just tested.  If you find a (recent,
 supported)
 version of IOS that supports bridge-group in a tunnel interface
please
 let
 me know.

 I think proxy ARP is more what is needed here, if we are talking about
 IP
 traffic.  If not, then IOS should support the other protocol in the
 tunnel
 (it supports AppleTalk, Banyan VINES,CLNS, DECnet, IP, or IPX).  If
it's
 raw NetBIOS or SNA, then setup DLSW peers...

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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RE: 3com and catalyst trunk [7:72654]

2003-07-23 Thread James Gosnold
I'm not entirely certain SuperStack III's can be managed in this fashion? 


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Which is more CPU intensive? [7:72792]

2003-07-23 Thread Muhtari Adanan
Which is more CPU intensive. Using set ip dscp with CBWFQ or policing to
mark traffic dscp values with CBWFQ?

Muhtari


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RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Raj Singh
Here u go!

Bus Error Crashes
The system encounters a bus error when the processor tries to access a
memory location that either does not exist (a software error) or does not
respond properly (a hardware problem). A bus error can be identified by
looking at the output of the show version command provided by the router (if
not power-cycled or manually reloaded).

Raj


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RE: certification expire [7:72786]

2003-07-23 Thread Muralidhar A
as far as my understanding goes you need to finish a higher certification
before the expiry of you CCNA to be automatically renewed. Or you will need
to re-certify yourself for CCNA also in order to complete CCNP.
Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
No U don't loose all the exams, you will need to re-certify at certifiction
levels only, For eg: If u have completed  2 papers but ur ccna is not valid
then u can re-certify CCNA and complete rest to get a valid CCNP.

can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?
YES.

if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
good 

www.cisco.com/go/ccnp search for FAQ's and u sud find them there. (i have
not been there lately, don't blame me if it is changed).

HTH,
Murali


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Subject: certification expire [7:72786]


Dear All,

I would like to know what happen if my CCNA expire but i have two passed
exams of the CCNP. Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
or can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?

or even if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
good.

Much appreciate.
Justin Vo
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RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
Oops, I was typing bridge? And it wasn't showing up, so I assumed that it
was not available in 12.2(15)T5.  It appears that it is, but you have to
type out the whole command.  Still, I wouldn't use it.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:50 AM
To: 'Reimer, Fred'
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Hello,
I was just trying to suggest maybe put the command bridge-group there to
see if 12.2.15T5 takes it or not - whether that will work...etc, is a
different story - just for information - didn't mean it in the context
of ccie lab

-luan

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Reimer, Fred
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
know,
see
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that we
configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically
behind in
IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
version
specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
support 12.2 until this Fall...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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-Original Message-
From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:02 PM
To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Uhm,
Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
route any longer.
Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.  
interface Tunnel10
 bandwidth 1500
 ip unnumbered Loopback1
 ip mtu 1440
 ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
 ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
 keepalive 10 4
 tunnel source 172.16.1.140
 tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
 bridge-group 1
 bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

But it does say this :
CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
% This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

-luan


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Reimer, Fred
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Wow, I hope you don't try that on your CCIE lab!  Last I heard, bridging
was
not supported on tunnel interfaces.  At least it's not on the 12.2(15)T5
running on a 2651XM router I just tested.  If you find a (recent,
supported)
version of IOS that supports bridge-group in a tunnel interface please
let
me know.

I think proxy ARP is more what is needed here, if we are talking about
IP
traffic.  If not, then IOS should support the other protocol in the
tunnel
(it supports AppleTalk, Banyan VINES,CLNS, DECnet, IP, or IPX).  If it's
raw NetBIOS or SNA, then setup DLSW peers...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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Re: Starting off towards a CCNP [7:72734]

2003-07-23 Thread James Gosnold
This is the way I did it. My own humble opinion is that this way scales down
in the degree of difficulty, hardest first, easiest last, and the order
seemed to sit nicely in terms of what you learned serving you well for the
next exam and so on.

James.

Nakul Malik wrote:
 
 I would recommend the following order:
 
 Routing -- Switching -- Remote access -- Support
 
 -Nakul
 
  wrote in message
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  hi ppl,
  Im planning to start on my ccnp--- first step joined
 groupstudy (as i did
  for my ccna ;-) ). Just have a few queries regarding the
 certification.
  1. I have the CCNP materials dated 2000. do they still hold
 good for the
  current certifications?
  2. Im planning to start of with the BCRAN certification
 first. Any
 opinions
  on that?
  thanks in advance...
  regards,
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RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
Ah O.K.  My apologies then.  It slipped my mind that there is a separate
group for the CCIE lab and that this was more of a general group.  Sorry for
the inappropriate post.

The question is still out there though, although it may me possible to
configure a bridge-group on a tunnel interface in 12.3.1, would anyone
recommend it?

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:46 AM
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Subject: Re: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Fred,

A few years ago this list was opened up to questions and discussions that
aren't necessarily related to certification. In fact, discussions don't even
have to be Cisco-related, although they usually are.  You'll quite often see
stuff like this around here, and many times people simply want to know if
something can be done, not whether it's a good idea for it to be done.  :-)

I have my doubts that this could be configured in such a way as to be
reliable and stable, but who knows. I even gave a suggestion earlier that I
now think won't work. I'm too tired at the moment to try it out, though.

John

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From: Reimer, Fred 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]


 12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
know,
 see
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
 Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that we
 configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

 I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically behind
in
 IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
version
 specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
 support 12.2 until this Fall...

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 -Original Message-
 From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:02 PM
 To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Uhm,
 Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
 don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
 stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
 command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
 route any longer.
 Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
 configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.
 interface Tunnel10
  bandwidth 1500
  ip unnumbered Loopback1
  ip mtu 1440
  ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
  ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
  keepalive 10 4
  tunnel source 172.16.1.140
  tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
  bridge-group 1
  bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

 But it does say this :
 CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
 % This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

 -luan


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Reimer, Fred
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Wow, I hope you don't try that on your CCIE lab!  Last I heard, bridging
 was
 not supported on tunnel interfaces.  At least it's not on the 12.2(15)T5
 running on a 2651XM router I just tested.  If you find a (recent,
 supported)
 version of IOS that supports bridge-group in a tunnel interface please
 let
 me know.

 I think proxy ARP is more what is needed here, if we are talking about
 IP
 traffic.  If not, then IOS should support the other protocol in the
 tunnel
 (it supports AppleTalk, Banyan VINES,CLNS, DECnet, IP, or IPX).  If it's
 raw NetBIOS or SNA, then setup DLSW peers...

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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 Phone: 

RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Zsombor Papp
Hi,

are you sure that the image that crashes and the one that then boots up
properly is the same one? Isn't it possible that you have two images, and
the second one is booted up after the booting of the first failed?

A full boot-log would help to answer these questions. If you indeed have two
images, then simply make sure that the boot variable points to it (see 'boot
system flash' command).

Thanks,

Zsombor 

Wilmes, Rusty wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75
 hours!)
 
 Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash
 and it seems
 ok. 
 
 Boot and sho ver follows.
 
 Just seeing if anyone had any input...
 
 Thanks
 Rusty
 
 System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY
 DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
 SOFT
 WARE (fc2)
 Copyright (c) 1994-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
 Main memory is configured to 32 bit mode with parity disabled
 
 program load complete, entry point: 0x80008000, size: 0x843438
 Self decompressing the image : #.##[OK]
 
 %ERR-1-GT64010: Fatal error, PCI Master abort
  cause=0x0300E483, mask=0x0CD01F00, real_cause=0x0400
  bus_err_high=0x, bus_err_low=0x3100,
 addr_decode_err=0x1FEE
 
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 Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
 Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000
 
 cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K
 bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID 06072235
 R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
 DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
 29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
 
 
 
 Press RETURN to get started!
 
 
 00:00:06: %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of
 .0c86.2235 has
   been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify
 MAC
   addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow
 the
   use of this address as a default.
 00:00:07: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
 00:00:10: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE
 (fc2)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
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 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE
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 Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
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 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY
 DEPLOYMENT
 RELEASE
  SOFTWARE (fc2)
 
 Router uptime is 0 minutes
 System returned to ROM by power-on
 System image file is flash:c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin
 
 cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K
 bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID 06072235
 R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
 DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
 29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
 
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RE: running GRE/IPSEC between PE routers [7:72764]

2003-07-23 Thread Luan Nguyen
Hello,
Yeah. The GRE thing is fine.  I am doing mpls.  Instead of mpls in the
core - I try to use GRE tunnel between the Provider Edge.
From the Customer Edge to the Provider Edge I am not doing tunnel so you
won't see tunnel there - it just doing BGP.
CE can't ping each other even though they have the route in the routing
tables
Traceroute dies at the PE
Default routes for the suns are just the CE LAN ip address.

-luan


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Subject: Re: running GRE/IPSEC between PE routers [7:72764]


tunnel? what tunnel? your show ip int brief does not reveal a tunnel.
your provider is where the tunnel is? So PE1 and PE2 are your CE peers?

I've done GRE tunnels across the internet with study partners, and it
works just fine.

can your CE routers ping eachother? If not, where does the routing break
down. traceroute is useful here.

What are the default routes that your Sun machines are using?

troubleshooting 101.


Luan Nguyen  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello,
 Anyone knows if you need to do anything special on the tunnel link for

 this to work? Like run tag-switching there for example? I have 2 cisco

 2651xm acting as PE and have a GRE with IPSEC transport mode between 
 them.  The CE has all the routes to the other CE, mBGP look good, 
 everything look good from the show perspective, but I just can't 
 source ping or ping from one sun box behind one CE to the other one. 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 -luan

 I have a set up like this: 
 cisco2621Aethernet/BGPPE1GRE/IPSEC---PE2Ethern
 et
 /BGP---cisco2621C
 running eigrp inside the tunnel to advertise the loopback.
 PEs = 2651xm running 12.3.1a enterprise 3DES.
 Traceroute die at the PE.

 Here are some show routes

 2621A#show ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B -
BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS 
 inter area
* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is 192.168.1.1 to network 0.0.0.0

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 C   10.242.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1
 B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.1, 00:27:08
  192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
 S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.1.1
 2621A#show ip int brief
 Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status

  Protocol
 FastEthernet0/0192.168.1.2 YES manual up

  up
 FastEthernet0/110.242.1.1  YES manual up

  up
 2621C#show ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B -
BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS 
 inter area
* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is 192.168.2.1 to network 0.0.0.0

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.1, 00:23:37
 C   10.242.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
  192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
 S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.2.1

 2651XM1#show ip route vrf customer1

 Routing Table: customer1
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS 
 level-2
ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user 
 static route
o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is not set

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.2, 00:29:08
 B   10.242.2.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.252, 00:17:55
  192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0

 2651XM2#show ip route vrf customer1

 Routing Table: customer1
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - 

RE: MPLS simulated lab at home [7:72759]

2003-07-23 Thread Vicuna, Mark
Cisco site has a decent set of configuration samples (as usual).


MPLS and VPN architectures (cisco press) is a great starting point and you
can go from there.


hth,
Mark.

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Subject: MPLS simulated lab at home [7:72759]


I am looking for sample MPLS scenarios that i can reproduce on my home lab 
to create an MPLS network, just for the knowledge of the technology. if 
anyone has some good links, or sample configs, please be kind to share.

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running GRE/IPSEC between PE routers [7:72764]

2003-07-23 Thread Luan Nguyen
Hello,
Anyone knows if you need to do anything special on the tunnel link for
this to work? Like run tag-switching there for example?  
I have 2 cisco 2651xm acting as PE and have a GRE with IPSEC transport
mode between them.  The CE has all the routes to the other CE, mBGP look
good, everything look good from the show perspective, but I just can't
source ping or ping from one sun box behind one CE to the other one.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-luan

I have a set up like this:
cisco2621Aethernet/BGPPE1GRE/IPSEC---PE2Ethernet
/BGP---cisco2621C
running eigrp inside the tunnel to advertise the loopback.
PEs = 2651xm running 12.3.1a enterprise 3DES.
Traceroute die at the PE.

Here are some show routes

2621A#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
inter
area
   * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
   P - periodic downloaded static route

Gateway of last resort is 192.168.1.1 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C   10.242.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1
B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.1, 00:27:08
 192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.1.1
2621A#show ip int brief
Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status

 Protocol
FastEthernet0/0192.168.1.2 YES manual up

 up
FastEthernet0/110.242.1.1  YES manual up

 up
2621C#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
inter
area
   * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
   P - periodic downloaded static route

Gateway of last resort is 192.168.2.1 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.1, 00:23:37
C   10.242.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
 192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.2.1

2651XM1#show ip route vrf customer1

Routing Table: customer1
Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
   i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
level-2
   ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
route
   o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

Gateway of last resort is not set

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.2, 00:29:08
B   10.242.2.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.252, 00:17:55
 192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0

2651XM2#show ip route vrf customer1

Routing Table: customer1
Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
   i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
level-2
   ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
route
   o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

Gateway of last resort is not set

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
B   10.242.1.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.253, 00:15:45
B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.2, 00:15:13
 192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread MADMAN
There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)

   Dave

John Neiberger wrote:
 This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
 noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950 switches
 is port 13?
 
 I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a device
 connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the last
 two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users in
 port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
 past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
 
 Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
 underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
 
 John
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RE: MPLS simulated lab at home [7:72759]

2003-07-23 Thread Luan Nguyen
I would try the cisco web site first.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk436/tk428/tech_configuration_e
xamples_list.html

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk436/tk428/tech_tech_notes_list
html

Well, I guess just go to the website (cisco, juniper redback...etc) and
do a search on mpls, and you would have plenty to go by.

-luan

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Subject: MPLS simulated lab at home [7:72759]

I am looking for sample MPLS scenarios that i can reproduce on my home
lab 
to create an MPLS network, just for the knowledge of the technology. if 
anyone has some good links, or sample configs, please be kind to share.

Regards  Thanks

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RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread Luan Nguyen
Uhm,
Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
route any longer.
Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.  
interface Tunnel10
 bandwidth 1500
 ip unnumbered Loopback1
 ip mtu 1440
 ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
 ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
 keepalive 10 4
 tunnel source 172.16.1.140
 tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
 bridge-group 1
 bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

But it does say this :
CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
% This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

-luan


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Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Wow, I hope you don't try that on your CCIE lab!  Last I heard, bridging
was
not supported on tunnel interfaces.  At least it's not on the 12.2(15)T5
running on a 2651XM router I just tested.  If you find a (recent,
supported)
version of IOS that supports bridge-group in a tunnel interface please
let
me know.

I think proxy ARP is more what is needed here, if we are talking about
IP
traffic.  If not, then IOS should support the other protocol in the
tunnel
(it supports AppleTalk, Banyan VINES,CLNS, DECnet, IP, or IPX).  If it's
raw NetBIOS or SNA, then setup DLSW peers...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Uhm.  Never done this or heard of this before.  I would just do
something like:
Interface LAN 1
Bridge-group 1
Interface tunnel 1
Source WAN
Destination REMOTE_WAN
Bridge-group 1

Since, concurrent routing and bridging makes it possible to both route
and bridge a specific protocol on separate interfaces within a router,
then WAN just route and LAN/Tunnel just bridge :)

If that not work for you, then maybe try intergrated routing and
bridging - create a BVI and source the tunnel from that interface.

-luan

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Subject: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]


Hello,

A question barely came up to mind: Would it be possible to join a
broadcast domain, not by means of a LAN switch but from one remote
router to another, using GRE Tunnels?

Since I haven't done it before, I kind of thought that it'll be
possible. For instance, having:

R1eth0(no ip address)--GRE
TUNNEL-Ser0--CLOUD--GRE_TUNN--Ser1---R2eth0(no ip
address)
  , where arp packets may flow from R1 to R2 via this GRE Tunnel.
  
Under this scenario and simply put, can R1'sLAN be also part of R2'sLAN?
If it's possible, how could the config be like?

Best regards,




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IOS upgrade [7:72799]

2003-07-23 Thread Ants
Hi,
Have a couple of ws-c2950 and ws-c2912xl switches running IOS 12.0(5.3)WC1
version.
Recent Cisco vulnarabilty recommends upgrade but for this version it
recommends 12.0T  or 12.1

What version will be best suited for upgrading these swicthes?
anyone knows whether 12.1(19) will be ok for these switch upgrades?

thanks in advance.




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RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
Yep, I would agree with Fred unless I tested it thoroughly. This may be one
of those situations where it might seem to work but I wouldn't trust it in
production. If it's simply an intellectual exercise it would be interesting
to mock it up and see what happens when user traffic actually starts to
cross the network. However, if this is for a production environment--or even
for lab study--I don't know that I'd spend much time on it. Find a different
way to do it!  :-)

John

 Reimer, Fred 7/23/03 7:48:37 AM 
Oops, I was typing bridge? And it wasn't showing up, so I assumed that it
was not available in 12.2(15)T5.  It appears that it is, but you have to
type out the whole command.  Still, I wouldn't use it.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:50 AM
To: 'Reimer, Fred'
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Hello,
I was just trying to suggest maybe put the command bridge-group there to
see if 12.2.15T5 takes it or not - whether that will work...etc, is a
different story - just for information - didn't mean it in the context
of ccie lab

-luan

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Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
know,
see
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that we
configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically
behind in
IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
version
specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
support 12.2 until this Fall...

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To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Uhm,
Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
route any longer.
Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.  
interface Tunnel10
 bandwidth 1500
 ip unnumbered Loopback1
 ip mtu 1440
 ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
 ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
 keepalive 10 4
 tunnel source 172.16.1.140
 tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
 bridge-group 1
 bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

But it does say this :
CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
% This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

-luan


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Reimer, Fred
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

Wow, I hope you don't try that on your CCIE lab!  Last I heard, bridging
was
not supported on tunnel interfaces.  At least it's not on the 12.2(15)T5
running on a 2651XM router I just tested.  If you find a (recent,
supported)
version of IOS that supports bridge-group in a tunnel interface please
let
me know.

I think proxy ARP is more what is needed here, if we are talking about
IP
traffic.  If not, then IOS should support the other protocol in the
tunnel
(it supports AppleTalk, Banyan VINES,CLNS, DECnet, IP, or IPX).  If it's
raw NetBIOS or SNA, then setup DLSW peers...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 

Re: running GRE/IPSEC between PE routers [7:72764]

2003-07-23 Thread
tunnel? what tunnel? your show ip int brief does not reveal a tunnel. your
provider is where the tunnel is? So PE1 and PE2 are your CE peers?

I've done GRE tunnels across the internet with study partners, and it works
just fine.

can your CE routers ping eachother? If not, where does the routing break
down. traceroute is useful here.

What are the default routes that your Sun machines are using?

troubleshooting 101.


Luan Nguyen  wrote in message
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 Hello,
 Anyone knows if you need to do anything special on the tunnel link for
 this to work? Like run tag-switching there for example?
 I have 2 cisco 2651xm acting as PE and have a GRE with IPSEC transport
 mode between them.  The CE has all the routes to the other CE, mBGP look
 good, everything look good from the show perspective, but I just can't
 source ping or ping from one sun box behind one CE to the other one.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 -luan

 I have a set up like this:
 cisco2621Aethernet/BGPPE1GRE/IPSEC---PE2Ethernet
 /BGP---cisco2621C
 running eigrp inside the tunnel to advertise the loopback.
 PEs = 2651xm running 12.3.1a enterprise 3DES.
 Traceroute die at the PE.

 Here are some show routes

 2621A#show ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
 inter
 area
* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is 192.168.1.1 to network 0.0.0.0

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 C   10.242.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1
 B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.1, 00:27:08
  192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
 S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.1.1
 2621A#show ip int brief
 Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status

  Protocol
 FastEthernet0/0192.168.1.2 YES manual up

  up
 FastEthernet0/110.242.1.1  YES manual up

  up
 2621C#show ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
 inter
 area
* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is 192.168.2.1 to network 0.0.0.0

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.1, 00:23:37
 C   10.242.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
  192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
 S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 192.168.2.1

 2651XM1#show ip route vrf customer1

 Routing Table: customer1
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
 level-2
ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
 route
o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is not set

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [20/0] via 192.168.1.2, 00:29:08
 B   10.242.2.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.252, 00:17:55
  192.168.1.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.1.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0

 2651XM2#show ip route vrf customer1

 Routing Table: customer1
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
 level-2
ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
 route
o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route

 Gateway of last resort is not set

  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
 B   10.242.1.0 [200/0] via 204.177.181.253, 00:15:45
 B   10.242.2.0 [20/0] via 192.168.2.2, 00:15:13
  192.168.2.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets
 C   192.168.2.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0




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RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread Ricardo J Castaneda
When I first triggered this question, certainly I took advantage of having a
forum full of creative techie people. Why would I need to bridge 2 LANs,
separated from a couple of routers or so, using a tunnel? Well, that
question, indeed, came from one of our customers, and then my coming to
think of ...why not.

Like some guys said, if GRE tunnels can transport multicast traffic, why not
broadcast traffic?

I'll try out some guidelines you guys wrote earlier, like using IRB and so.
I would like to think that this forum was created not only for asking
certification questions but also for learning. I strongly believe that what
technology can't do now, will do tomorrow.

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RE: Which is more CPU intensive? [7:72792]

2003-07-23 Thread Dom
I would guess that using policing to set the dscp is more intensive as
all the token bucket counters need to be taken into account. This is
just my guess though.

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
SysDom Technologies
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Which is more CPU intensive. Using set ip dscp with CBWFQ or policing to
mark traffic dscp values with CBWFQ?

Muhtari




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ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
Hi,

I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75 hours!)

Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash and it seems
ok. 

Boot and sho ver follows.

Just seeing if anyone had any input...

Thanks
Rusty

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
SOFT
WARE (fc2)
Copyright (c) 1994-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 32 bit mode with parity disabled

program load complete, entry point: 0x80008000, size: 0x843438
Self decompressing the image : #.##[OK]

%ERR-1-GT64010: Fatal error, PCI Master abort
 cause=0x0300E483, mask=0x0CD01F00, real_cause=0x0400
 bus_err_high=0x, bus_err_low=0x3100, addr_decode_err=0x1FEE

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Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:06: %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of .0c86.2235 has
  been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify MAC
  addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow the
  use of this address as a default.
00:00:07: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:00:10: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Router
Router
Routersho ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc2)

Router uptime is 0 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Router




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RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
even though it was throwing the error it seemed to function normally and
recognized the nm-1fe (hence the need for the upgrade).  I put it on the
network and started a tftp upgrade (as later suggested by Ganesh) and went
home and slept.  It finished okay but this morning is still throwing the
same error. :(

I doubt it's hardware because it wasnt throwing the error on
11.whateveritwas and it does it whether the nm-2fe is in there or not.  

It seems to work fine but i HATE having machines with those errors that you
always have to tell people dont worry about that...



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Here u go!

Bus Error Crashes
The system encounters a bus error when the processor tries to access a
memory location that either does not exist (a software error) or does not
respond properly (a hardware problem). A bus error can be identified by
looking at the output of the show version command provided by the router (if
not power-cycled or manually reloaded).

Raj




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Re: IOS upgrade [7:72799]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
 Ants 7/23/03 8:27:03 AM 
Hi,
Have a couple of ws-c2950 and ws-c2912xl switches running IOS 12.0(5.3)WC1
version.
Recent Cisco vulnarabilty recommends upgrade but for this version it
recommends 12.0T  or 12.1

What version will be best suited for upgrading these swicthes?
anyone knows whether 12.1(19) will be ok for these switch upgrades?

thanks in advance.

At this very moment I'm wrestling with a 2950-24 that is running
12.0(5.3)WC1 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 12.1(13)EA1b. Is 12.1(19)
available for them? As of yesterday, 12.1(13)EA1c was the latest available
for the 2950.

I seem to be running into a bug that is causing excessive CPU usage on the
switch, so much so that it's not letting me download a new image
successfully. To make matters worse, to personally tend to this switch I'd
have to hop on a plane and go to California. I *really* hope I don't mess
this thing up!

John




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread Raj
Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
story behind it?


MADMAN  wrote in message
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 There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)

Dave

 John Neiberger wrote:
  This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
  noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
switches
  is port 13?
 
  I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
device
  connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
last
  two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
in
  port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
  past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
 
  Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
  underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
 
  John
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RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
only one image in flash..

outer#dir flash:
Directory of flash:/

1  -rw- 8664404c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin

16777216 bytes total (8112748 bytes free)

It can ping itself just fine w/ a 1475 datagram size.  I guess the drops
might be a problem between this interface and the gateway.

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Hi,

are you sure that the image that crashes and the one that then boots up
properly is the same one? Isn't it possible that you have two images, and
the second one is booted up after the booting of the first failed?

A full boot-log would help to answer these questions. If you indeed have two
images, then simply make sure that the boot variable points to it (see 'boot
system flash' command).

Thanks,

Zsombor 

Wilmes, Rusty wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75
 hours!)
 
 Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash
 and it seems
 ok. 
 
 Boot and sho ver follows.
 
 Just seeing if anyone had any input...
 
 Thanks
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RE: certification expire [7:72786]

2003-07-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From the CISCO site:





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 Currently there are seven beta exams that can be used to recertify both
 CCDA and CCNA certifications:  

 BGP 641-661
 ARCH 641-871   
 QoS 643-641
 BCRAN 643-821  
 BCMSN 643-811  
 CIT 643-831
 BSCI 643-801   

 Passing any of these exams will count towards recertification of the CCNA  
 or CCDA certifications. Other 642 series exams will be available over the  
 course of the next 90 to 120 days  
 ---




There are 3 new-curriculum CCNP papers in here. taking any one of them
should take care of the re-cert i guess. If your cert is not expiring
before Sep 7 i think you can wait till then when the above certs will
upgrade  from beta
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as far as my understanding goes you need to finish a higher certification
before the expiry of you CCNA to be automatically renewed. Or you will need
to re-certify yourself for CCNA also in order to complete CCNP.
Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
No U don't loose all the exams, you will need to re-certify at certifiction
levels only, For eg: If u have completed  2 papers but ur ccna is not valid
then u can re-certify CCNA and complete rest to get a valid CCNP.

can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?
YES.

if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
good

www.cisco.com/go/ccnp search for FAQ's and u sud find them there. (i have
not been there lately, don't blame me if it is changed).

HTH,
Murali


-Original Message-
From: Justin Vo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: certification expire [7:72786]


Dear All,

I would like to know what happen if my CCNA expire but i have two passed
exams of the CCNP. Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
or can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?

or even if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
good.

Much appreciate.
Justin Vo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: certification expire [7:72786]

2003-07-23 Thread Tom Lisa
You can continue to complete your CCNP exams, but you
will not be CCNP certified until you recertify your CCNA.
Normally, successfully completing a higher level exam would
recertify your lower level certification.  However, if it has
already expired then you must take that recert exam.

If you have any other questions you can contact Cisco
at:  www.cisco.com/go/certsupport

HTH,
Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy
Cunctando restituit rem

Justin Vo wrote:

  Dear All,

  I would like to know what happen if my CCNA expire but i have two
  passed
  exams of the CCNP. Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole
  thing ?
  or can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?

  or even if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question
  is also
  good.

  Much appreciate.
  Justin Vo
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Which is more CPU intensive? [7:72792]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
Depending on platform, all of this may be done in hardware.  Doesn't the PFC
in a 6500 handle this?  If so, it would not be CPU intensive at all...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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Subject: RE: Which is more CPU intensive? [7:72792]

I would guess that using policing to set the dscp is more intensive as
all the token bucket counters need to be taken into account. This is
just my guess though.

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
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Subject: Which is more CPU intensive? [7:72792]


Which is more CPU intensive. Using set ip dscp with CBWFQ or policing to
mark traffic dscp values with CBWFQ?

Muhtari




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PCMCIA Hard Disk on 7500? [7:72820]

2003-07-23 Thread Lauren Child
Hi

Has anyone tried using the 2 and 5 gigabyte PCMCIA hard disks from Toshiba
on a 7500?

As far as I can see it should work, and it would be nice to have one uber
flash card will all of the possible IOS versions I want to play with, but
obviously I dont want to buy one and find out its useless.

Im loathed to buy a smaller flash card for twice the price if the hard disk
would work.

TTFN
Lauren


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Re: Error on an interface FastEthernet of a router 3745 [7:72817]

2003-07-23 Thread Brad Dodds
cut and pasted from:
Error Message Decoder
Transmit underflow on int [chars]
While a frame was being transmitted, the local buffer of the GT96K
controller chip received insufficient data because data could not be
transferred to the chip fast enough to keep pace with its output rate.
Normally, such a prob lem is temporary, depending on transient peak loads
within the system.

Recommended Action: The system should recover. No action is required.

Related documents: No specific documents apply to this error message.


Joseba Izaga  wrote in message
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 Hi,

 Do you now the reason of the folowing message:

 11:31:40: %GT96K_FEWAN-5-UNDERFLOW: Transmit underflow on int
 FastEthernet0/0
 11:31:40: %GT96K_FEWAN-5-UNDERFLOW: Transmit underflow on int
 FastEthernet0/0


 This is configuration I have on the interface

 interface FastEthernet0/0
  ip address 63.80.132.16 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache same-interface
  ip policy route-map mail
  speed 100
  full-duplex

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Re: certification expire [7:72786]

2003-07-23 Thread Justin Vo
Thank you for the info. This make my life a bit easier


Muralidhar A  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 as far as my understanding goes you need to finish a higher certification
 before the expiry of you CCNA to be automatically renewed. Or you will
need
 to re-certify yourself for CCNA also in order to complete CCNP.
 Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
 No U don't loose all the exams, you will need to re-certify at
certifiction
 levels only, For eg: If u have completed  2 papers but ur ccna is not
valid
 then u can re-certify CCNA and complete rest to get a valid CCNP.

 can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?
 YES.

 if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
 good

 www.cisco.com/go/ccnp search for FAQ's and u sud find them there. (i have
 not been there lately, don't blame me if it is changed).

 HTH,
 Murali


 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Vo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: certification expire [7:72786]


 Dear All,

 I would like to know what happen if my CCNA expire but i have two passed
 exams of the CCNP. Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
 or can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?

 or even if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is
also
 good.

 Much appreciate.
 Justin Vo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread Kent Hundley
It's a long story...

http://www.naplesnews.com/today/restate/a120401k.htm

-Kent

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:28, Raj wrote:
 Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
 story behind it?
 
 
 MADMAN  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
 
 Dave
 
  John Neiberger wrote:
   This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
   noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
 switches
   is port 13?
  
   I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
 device
   connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
 last
   two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
 in
   port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
the
   past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
  
   Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
   underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
  
   John
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Microsoft VPN through a router [7:72824]

2003-07-23 Thread Steven Aiello
I was wondering what ports I would need to have open for a Microsoft VPN 
  connection on my router.  If I have done my home work correctly I think

IPSec port: 50
L2TP port : 1701
PPTP port : 1723

Are these all TCP, UDP???

I don't really have a full understanding of how the protocal and port 
process of a VPN works.  I understand the theroy; how IPSec incryptes 
the info in a tunnel data portion of another IP packet blaa blaa blaa. 
But any more aditional detailed info would be great.

Thanks,
Steve




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Cat 4000 Connectivity Issues! [7:72823]

2003-07-23 Thread Stevo
Hey All,

I have a Cat 4006 running in native mode (running IOS 12.1(13) and can not
ping or telnet to it anymore. It is passing traffic just fine however the
only way I can connect to it is to ping it
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Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network. If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to using
Nortel switches.  ]




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread MADMAN
As far as I can tell there is no one definitive known reason but 
several plausible reasons.  I also understand some cultures like the 
Chinese consider 13 lucky:)

   Dave

Raj wrote:
 Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
 story behind it?
 
 
 MADMAN  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)

   Dave

John Neiberger wrote:

This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950

 switches
 
is port 13?

I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a

 device
 
connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the

 last
 
two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users

 in
 
port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.

Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
underneath ladders until I get this resolved!

John

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CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

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can do something to the people. -- Thomas Jefferson
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CCIE# 2016
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Re: certification expire [7:72786]

2003-07-23 Thread Justin Vo
Thank you for the info. This make my life a bit easier


Muralidhar A  wrote in message
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 as far as my understanding goes you need to finish a higher certification
 before the expiry of you CCNA to be automatically renewed. Or you will
need
 to re-certify yourself for CCNA also in order to complete CCNP.
 Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
 No U don't loose all the exams, you will need to re-certify at
certifiction
 levels only, For eg: If u have completed  2 papers but ur ccna is not
valid
 then u can re-certify CCNA and complete rest to get a valid CCNP.

 can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?
 YES.

 if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is also
 good

 www.cisco.com/go/ccnp search for FAQ's and u sud find them there. (i have
 not been there lately, don't blame me if it is changed).

 HTH,
 Murali


 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Vo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: certification expire [7:72786]


 Dear All,

 I would like to know what happen if my CCNA expire but i have two passed
 exams of the CCNP. Do you loose all these exams and redo the whole thing ?
 or can I continue with the CCNP once I redo my CCNA exam ?

 or even if you know any email of cisco that I can ask this question is
also
 good.

 Much appreciate.
 Justin Vo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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PCMCIA Hard Disk on 7500? [7:72820]

2003-07-23 Thread Lauren Child
Hi

Has anyone tried using the 2 and 5 gigabyte PCMCIA hard disks from Toshiba
on a 7500?

As far as I can see it should work, and it would be nice to have one uber
flash card will all of the possible IOS versions I want to play with, but
obviously I dont want to buy one and find out its useless.

Im loathed to buy a smaller flash card for twice the price if the hard disk
would work.

TTFN
Lauren




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Re: Cat 4000 Connectivity Issues! [7:72823]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
 Stevo 7/23/03 12:02:28 PM 
Hey All,

I have a Cat 4006 running in native mode (running IOS 12.1(13) and can not
ping or telnet to it anymore. It is passing traffic just fine however the
only way I can connect to it is to ping it

I'm confused. Can you ping it or not?  :-)




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SRC and DST NAT problem [7:72783]

2003-07-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem description: 
Problem when NATing both source and destination addresses based on an
route-map

Diagram:
_
   |   R1|
   |   |
   -
  |  |
Fa0/0.1 Fa0/0.2
  |  |
  |  |
  __ 1.1.1.0/24 LAN
  | |2.2.2.0/24 LAN
  | |  
  | |
- -
|   | ||
- -  
PC1:1.1.1.10PC2:2.2.2.10
 Actual PhysicalActual Physical 
ip addressip address

Setup description:
Cisco 2600 router connected to a Cisco 2950 switch using Fa0/0 port. We have
created subinterface on F0/0. 
The subinterface F0/0.1 connects to 1.1.1.0/24 LAN. The subinterface F0/0.2
connects to 2.2.2.0/24 LAN. 
The router routes traffic between these subnets.Int f0/0.1 is the nat
inside interface.Int f0/0.2 is the nat outside interface.

Requirement: 
1) When telnet traffic(identified by a route-map)  from 1.1.1.0/24 LAN needs
to flow to the 2.2.2.0/24 LAN  (which actually appears as 11.11.10.0/24 LAN
to the 1.1.1.0 network) , the source address should be NATed  as
1.1.1.0/24 172.16.1.0/24 and the destination should be NATed as
11.11.10.0/242.2.2.0/24. 

2) When certain other type of traffic from 1.1.1.0/24 LAN needs to flow to
the 2.2.2.0/24 LAN  , the source address and destination address should not
be NATed.

Problem:
Requirement no.2 is working fine.
For Requirement no.1 :
The source IP address of the Inside-to-outside packets is being NATed. But
not the destination address.

Below is the expected sequence.
i.e. 1)PC1 sends a telnet packet to PC2. src ip: 1.1.1.10 ,dst ip:11.11.2.10
2)R1 nats the source ip properly. ie. src ip :1.1.1.10 172.16.1.10 . I
also want R1 to NAT the destination ip address . i.e i want dst
ip:11.11.2.102.2.2.10. The packet should then hit PC2.
Similar reverse translation is need on the reverse path for the return
packet.

Below is the sh runn for R1
R1#sh run
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 encapsulation dot1Q 4
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 encapsulation dot1Q 5
 ip address 2.2.2.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat outside
!
ip nat pool IN2OUTNATPOOL 172.16.1.1 172.16.1.254 prefix-length 24 type
match-host
ip nat pool OUT2INNATPOOL 10.10.0.1 10.10.0.254 prefix-length 16 type
match-host
ip nat inside source route-map IN2OUT pool IN2OUTNATPOOL
ip nat outside source route-map OUT2IN pool OUT2INNATPOOL
ip classless
ip route 11.11.2.0 255.255.255.0 FastEthernet0/0.2
ip route 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 FastEthernet0/0.1
!

access-list 188 permit tcp any any eq telnet
access-list 188 permit tcp any eq telnet any
access-list 188 deny   ip any any
!
route-map IN2OUT permit 10
 match ip address 188
!
route-map OUT2IN permit 10
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RE: Microsoft VPN through a router [7:72824]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
For IPSec I believe you need protocolsport 500.  The
50 is a protocol number, like UDP is 17 and TCP is what? 6?  It is not a TCP
or UDP port number...

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Subject: Microsoft VPN through a router [7:72824]

I was wondering what ports I would need to have open for a Microsoft VPN 
  connection on my router.  If I have done my home work correctly I think

IPSec port: 50
L2TP port : 1701
PPTP port : 1723

Are these all TCP, UDP???

I don't really have a full understanding of how the protocal and port 
process of a VPN works.  I understand the theroy; how IPSec incryptes 
the info in a tunnel data portion of another IP packet blaa blaa blaa. 
But any more aditional detailed info would be great.

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Re: Microsoft VPN through a router [7:72824]

2003-07-23 Thread Stevo
Steve,

You need to open GRE to from any source to your VPN server and then
depending on whether you're using PPTP or L2TP make sure you have either
tcp/1723 or tcp/1701 open.

My ACL looks like this for PPTP access...

access-list 101 permit tcp any host  eq 1723
access-list 101 permit gre any host 

Stevo


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 I was wondering what ports I would need to have open for a Microsoft VPN
   connection on my router.  If I have done my home work correctly I think

 IPSec port: 50
 L2TP port : 1701
 PPTP port : 1723

 Are these all TCP, UDP???

 I don't really have a full understanding of how the protocal and port
 process of a VPN works.  I understand the theroy; how IPSec incryptes
 the info in a tunnel data portion of another IP packet blaa blaa blaa.
 But any more aditional detailed info would be great.

 Thanks,
 Steve




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RE: Microsoft VPN through a router [7:72824]

2003-07-23 Thread Zsombor Papp
Steven Aiello wrote:
 
 I was wondering what ports I would need to have open for a
 Microsoft VPN
   connection on my router.  If I have done my home work
 correctly I think
 
 IPSec port: 50

This is protocol number (as in protocol above IP). You will also need 51 I
think.

 L2TP port : 1701

UDP

 PPTP port : 1723

TCP

 
 Are these all TCP, UDP???
 
 I don't really have a full understanding of how the protocal
 and port
 process of a VPN works.  I understand the theroy; how IPSec
 incryptes
 the info in a tunnel data portion of another IP packet blaa
 blaa blaa.
 But any more aditional detailed info would be great.

The RFCs are pretty detailed.

Thanks,

Zsombor


 
 Thanks,
 Steve
 
 


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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used to have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area like a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

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Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network. If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to using
Nortel switches.  ]




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Link flapping PagP 3550 and 1912 frozen [7:72829]

2003-07-23 Thread pierreg
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From: pierreg  
Reply-To: 
Date:  Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:25:32 -0500

A- Situation:  I am using a 3550 and a 1912 to do PAgp.



B- The problem: flapping links on the 3550, frozen 1912 


(1)  Cat3550#


09:43:40: PAgP: Fa0/1 is coming Up
09:43:40: PAgP: Fa0/2 is coming Up
09:43:42: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/1, changed state to up
09:43:42: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/2, changed state to up
Cat3550#
09:43:43: PAgP - Fa0/1 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:43: PAgP - Fa0/2 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:44: PAgP - Fa0/1 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:44: PAgP - Fa0/2 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:45: PAgP - Fa0/1 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
Cat3550#
09:43:45: PAgP - Fa0/2 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:48: PAgP: Fa0/1 action_a7 is entered
09:43:48: PAgP: Fa0/2 action_a7 is entered
09:43:49: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface FastEthernet0/1,
changed
 state to up
09:43:49: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface FastEthernet0/2,
changed
 state to up
09:43:50: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Port-channel13, changed state to up
09:43:51: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Port-channel13,
changed
state to up

9:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/1 is going Down
09:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/1 action_a1 is entered
09:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/2 is going Down
09:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/2 action_a1 is entered
09:44:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface FastEthernet0/1,
changed
 state to down
09:44:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface FastEthernet0/2,
changed
 state to down
09:44:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Port-channel13,
changed
state to down
09:44:20: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/1, changed state to down
09:44:20: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/2, changed state to down

(2) As soon as the pagp negotiation starts,  the 1912 is unaccessible and
the only way to get to it is to shut down the port on the 3550. When this is
done the switch is still unaccessible for another 30 seconds.


C- The configurations


==

The 3550
==


...

!
interface Port-channel13
 switchport access vlan 13
 switchport mode access
 no ip address
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 13
 switchport mode access
 no ip address
 shutdown
 duplex full
 speed 100
 pagp learn-method physical-port
 channel-group 13 mode auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
 switchport access vlan 13
 switchport mode access
 no ip address
 shutdown
 duplex full
 speed 100
 pagp learn-method physical-port
 channel-group 13 mode auto
!
.


---
The 1912
---



Cat1912#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
!
port-channel preserve-order
port-channel mode desirable

...


interface FastEthernet 0/26

  duplex full
!
!
  vlan-membership static 13
!
interface FastEthernet 0/27

  duplex full
!
!
  vlan-membership static 13
!
line console


-

Any suggestions?

Pierre-Alex

=




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Re: IOS upgrade [7:72799]

2003-07-23 Thread
where's the switch and what are your passwords, John? if it's close enough,
I'll be happy to help you out ;-


John Neiberger  wrote in message
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  Ants 7/23/03 8:27:03 AM 
 Hi,
 Have a couple of ws-c2950 and ws-c2912xl switches running IOS
12.0(5.3)WC1
 version.
 Recent Cisco vulnarabilty recommends upgrade but for this version it
 recommends 12.0T  or 12.1
 
 What version will be best suited for upgrading these swicthes?
 anyone knows whether 12.1(19) will be ok for these switch upgrades?
 
 thanks in advance.

 At this very moment I'm wrestling with a 2950-24 that is running
 12.0(5.3)WC1 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 12.1(13)EA1b. Is 12.1(19)
 available for them? As of yesterday, 12.1(13)EA1c was the latest available
 for the 2950.

 I seem to be running into a bug that is causing excessive CPU usage on the
 switch, so much so that it's not letting me download a new image
 successfully. To make matters worse, to personally tend to this switch I'd
 have to hop on a plane and go to California. I *really* hope I don't mess
 this thing up!

 John




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread
MADMAN  wrote in message
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 There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)

problem is that 13 is unlucky only among western eurtopeans or those who
have been subsumed in our culture.

perhaps some from other parts of the world on this list have experience with
other unlucky ports. for example, IIRC, among those of middle eastern
heritage, 13 is OK but I believe that 14 may not be.

I'm sure someone will point out my ignorance and my poor memory. It's been a
long time since I've read the Fletch books, which is my source. :-



Dave

 John Neiberger wrote:
  This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
  noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
switches
  is port 13?
 
  I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
device
  connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
last
  two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
in
  port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
  past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
 
  Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
  underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
 
  John
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Re: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread
lazy boy. upgrade your NIC drivers. :-

NIC problems with Cisco switches have been issues for several years that I
can think of. ;-

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
 tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do not
 suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our problems
 so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number of
 users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity issue.

 Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
 sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network. If
 you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
 yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

 You have been warned!

 [Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that works??
 We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This is
 ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
 expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
 priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our end
 users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to using
 Nortel switches.  ]




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread
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 It's a long story...

 http://www.naplesnews.com/today/restate/a120401k.htm


in a way, that validates the Christian tradion, because Christianity assumed
and consumed an awful lot of pieces from the native european pagan religions
and traditions as it became more powerful during the early middle ages.

many european cathedrals were build on the sites of pagan cult centers.


 -Kent

 On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:28, Raj wrote:
  Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
  story behind it?
 
 
  MADMAN  wrote in message
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   There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
  
  Dave
  
   John Neiberger wrote:
This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of
you
noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
  switches
is port 13?
   
I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
  device
connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in
the
  last
two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of
users
  in
port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
 the
past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
   
Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
   
John
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   CCIE# 2016
   Sr. Network Engineer
   Qwest Communications
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Re: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

2003-07-23 Thread
I don't have any routers on line at the moment, but you can bridge across
any interface, physical or virtual, so far as I know. I have a customer
network bridging over RLAN ( ATM host, DSL spokes ) working fine except once
in a while the customer has to reload the host router because connectivity
is mysteriously lost. Like about once every 14 months or so. clearing the
cache does not help. restarting the interfaces does not help. only a reload
does it.

in defense of the design, the customer did not want to renumber when we
upgraded from an ISDN dial up network to an RLAN

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 Yep, I would agree with Fred unless I tested it thoroughly. This may be
one
 of those situations where it might seem to work but I wouldn't trust it in
 production. If it's simply an intellectual exercise it would be
interesting
 to mock it up and see what happens when user traffic actually starts to
 cross the network. However, if this is for a production environment--or
even
 for lab study--I don't know that I'd spend much time on it. Find a
different
 way to do it!  :-)

 John

  Reimer, Fred 7/23/03 7:48:37 AM 
 Oops, I was typing bridge? And it wasn't showing up, so I assumed that it
 was not available in 12.2(15)T5.  It appears that it is, but you have to
 type out the whole command.  Still, I wouldn't use it.


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 To: 'Reimer, Fred'
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Hello,
 I was just trying to suggest maybe put the command bridge-group there to
 see if 12.2.15T5 takes it or not - whether that will work...etc, is a
 different story - just for information - didn't mean it in the context
 of ccie lab

 -luan

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 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 12.2(15)T5 is a recommended version for the IP v4 exploit, as far as I
 know,
 see
 (http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml).
 Are you suggesting that it is not appropriate? Do you recommend that we
 configure an unreleased and unsupported feature?

 I would not recommend that in a CCIE lab, as they are historically
 behind in
 IOS releases, and will not likely support a configuration in a 12.3
 version
 specific command, as a valid solution since they are not even going to
 support 12.2 until this Fall...

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 To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: GRE TUNNEL/Ethernet-broadcast-like? [7:72738]

 Uhm,
 Why don't you just put the command there and see what's going on.  I
 don't mess with 12.2.15Tx any more since, FYI, it has a bug with EIGRP
 stub connected - forgot the bugID, but if you have a spoke with that
 command, the hub won't withdraw routes even if the hub doesn't have that
 route any longer.
 Okay, to the main topic - I run 12.3.1 on a 7206VXR and I could
 configure bridge-group on the tunnel interface.
 interface Tunnel10
  bandwidth 1500
  ip unnumbered Loopback1
  ip mtu 1440
  ip hello-interval eigrp 2002 10
  ip hold-time eigrp 2002 40
  keepalive 10 4
  tunnel source 172.16.1.140
  tunnel destination 172.16.3.144
  bridge-group 1
  bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled

 But it does say this :
 CS140(config-if)#bridge-group 1
 % This command is an unreleased and unsupported feature

 -luan


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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
Actually, Fred, the problem is that some NICs will check for an
autonegotiating partner even if they are hard coded, while other NICs do
not. Newer Cisco switches completely disable autonegotiation if you
hardset the speed and duplex, while many NIC manufacturers decided it
was a great idea to still check for an autonegotiating partner
regardless of speed/duplex setting. These NICs *will* fall back to half
duplex if they do not detect autonegotiation on the wire.  I've seen the
documentation that proves this and I've seen it demonstrated almost
daily for months now.

The problem arose when Cisco changed their switch behavior. The 2924XL
used to behave the same way as most NICs do now. Even if you hard set
the speed and duplex they would be friendly with other NICs that checked
for autonegotiation. In other words, they still participated in
autonegotiation but they only offered the speed and duplex they were
configured for to the link partner.

Newer Cisco switches do not do this. Nway (autonegotiation) is disabled
completely if you hardset the speed and duplex. If you set the switch to
100/Full it will stay at 100/Full no matter what. If you subsequently
attach certain NICs to that port and you hardset the NIC to 100/Full it
will still check the link for an autonegotiating partner. When it
doesn't detect one it makes the faulty assumption that full duplex is
not possible and it falls back to half duplex. To make matters worse,
most NICs don't report this. When you check their speed and duplex
settings they'll still report 100/Full.

Every 2950, 2948G, 2980G, and 6500 in our network behaves in the newer
fashion, while probably 98% of the PC and server NICs in our network
still check for the presence of Nway signalling. It took months of
troubleshooting involving several people of different backgrounds in our
department along with resources from Novell and Cisco to figure out what
was going on, and the real answer actually came from responses I had on
Usenet by people who really understood Nway and the fast ethernet
standard.

The only method for setting speed and duplex mentioned in the standard
is the use of autonegotiation. The behavior of NICs when auto is not
used is unspecified. There are basically two common behaviors among NICs
when you disable autonegotiation and the real problems occur when you
have a mix of NICs with different philosophies.

John

 Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:53:14 PM 
I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively
new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

I'd have to disagree with you there.  If you hard-code a device it
can't
fail autonegotiation.  The two are diametrically opposed.  It's any
oxymoron.  Illogical to the nth degree.  And this behavior is notstay
Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used
to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area
like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

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Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as
I
can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a
number
of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC
but
I'm
sure we're not the 

RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

I'd have to disagree with you there.  If you hard-code a device it can't
fail autonegotiation.  The two are diametrically opposed.  It's any
oxymoron.  Illogical to the nth degree.  And this behavior is notstay
Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number
of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network.
If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This
is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our
end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to
using
Nortel switches.  ]
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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
In many cases they are autonegotiation issues, but those seem to be
mostly resolved, especially if your end devices are using newer NICs
with updated drivers. In the case of this morning we're dealing with
devices that only run 10/half and the switch is hard-coded for 10/half.
Quite a mess but it's not consistent and we're still trying to discover
all of the commonalities. 

Out of six or seven locations that were upgraded last night, three
reported problems this morning and all problems related to the same type
of PC with the same type of NIC. However, none of the other locations
that also have this same PC and NIC have problems. To make it more
frustrating, the problems often don't show up immediately, but instead
show up several days later.

Assuming good code, I'm now an advocate of using auto everywhere unless
you need to fix a specific problem. In that case, use 100/Half or
10/half. I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

Just last year we added a bunch of newer Cisco switches to our network
and it took quite a while to figure out that most of our new
connectivity problems were due to this change in philosophy within Cisco
switches. 

John

 Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number
of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network.
If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This
is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our
end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to
using
Nortel switches.  ]
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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread
Raj  wrote in message
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 Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
 story behind it?


in the Christian tradition, 13 is unlucky because there were 13 people at
the Last Supper.

or so I was told by the good nuns when they wren't busy whacking my knuckles
with a ruler ;-



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  There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
 
 Dave
 
  John Neiberger wrote:
   This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
   noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
 switches
   is port 13?
  
   I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
 device
   connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
 last
   two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
 in
   port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
the
   past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
  
   Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
   underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
  
   John
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Re: IOS upgrade [7:72799]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
Thanks, but I think it would be a bit of a drive for you. Isn't it quite a
ways from your place down to Palm Desert? Besides, I wouldn't be able to pay
you except perhaps with beer!

Anyway, I was finally able to get the switch upgraded and the problem I was
seeing went away. I never did figure out exactly what was going on. The
switch seemed to think it was suffering from a broadcast storm when it was
not. Rebooting to a new image cleared up the problem.

However, that led to the problem I'm discussing in the other thread!  :-(

John

 Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter  7/23/03 1:36:52
PM 
where's the switch and what are your passwords, John? if it's close enough,
I'll be happy to help you out ;-


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  Ants 7/23/03 8:27:03 AM 
 Hi,
 Have a couple of ws-c2950 and ws-c2912xl switches running IOS
12.0(5.3)WC1
 version.
 Recent Cisco vulnarabilty recommends upgrade but for this version it
 recommends 12.0T  or 12.1
 
 What version will be best suited for upgrading these swicthes?
 anyone knows whether 12.1(19) will be ok for these switch upgrades?
 
 thanks in advance.

 At this very moment I'm wrestling with a 2950-24 that is running
 12.0(5.3)WC1 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 12.1(13)EA1b. Is 12.1(19)
 available for them? As of yesterday, 12.1(13)EA1c was the latest
available
 for the 2950.

 I seem to be running into a bug that is causing excessive CPU usage on
the
 switch, so much so that it's not letting me download a new image
 successfully. To make matters worse, to personally tend to this switch
I'd
 have to hop on a plane and go to California. I *really* hope I don't mess
 this thing up!

 John




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Re: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
Believe me, Chuck, I've harped on our LAN people about this forever and they
finally have made great progress in that area. Today's problems arise from
some P133s with 10baseT ISA cards in them. With previous versions of the
2950 IOS we'd hardset the ports to 10/half and then reboot the PC about five
times (yes, I said five times!) and from that point on they'd have no
problems. I have no explanation.

As of the latest version of software, the connections to these NICs seem to
be on even shakier ground but we seem to be getting them under control. The
real solution is to upgrade the NICs in all of those machines but that's
easier said than done consider the locations of these machines relative to
ours. :-)

John

 Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter  7/23/03 1:35:37
PM 
lazy boy. upgrade your NIC drivers. :-

NIC problems with Cisco switches have been issues for several years that I
can think of. ;-

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
 tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do not
 suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
 so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number
of
 users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity issue.

 Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
 sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network. If
 you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
 yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

 You have been warned!

 [Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
works??
 We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This
is
 ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
 expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
 priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our end
 users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to using
 Nortel switches.  ]




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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
I understand all that, but like I said, to each his own.  My recommendation
would be to not use any NIC that does not properly set the speed and duplex.
We don't sell them, to my knowledge, and will not support them.  Others may
not have the same flexibility.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

Actually, Fred, the problem is that some NICs will check for an
autonegotiating partner even if they are hard coded, while other NICs do
not. Newer Cisco switches completely disable autonegotiation if you
hardset the speed and duplex, while many NIC manufacturers decided it
was a great idea to still check for an autonegotiating partner
regardless of speed/duplex setting. These NICs *will* fall back to half
duplex if they do not detect autonegotiation on the wire.  I've seen the
documentation that proves this and I've seen it demonstrated almost
daily for months now.

The problem arose when Cisco changed their switch behavior. The 2924XL
used to behave the same way as most NICs do now. Even if you hard set
the speed and duplex they would be friendly with other NICs that checked
for autonegotiation. In other words, they still participated in
autonegotiation but they only offered the speed and duplex they were
configured for to the link partner.

Newer Cisco switches do not do this. Nway (autonegotiation) is disabled
completely if you hardset the speed and duplex. If you set the switch to
100/Full it will stay at 100/Full no matter what. If you subsequently
attach certain NICs to that port and you hardset the NIC to 100/Full it
will still check the link for an autonegotiating partner. When it
doesn't detect one it makes the faulty assumption that full duplex is
not possible and it falls back to half duplex. To make matters worse,
most NICs don't report this. When you check their speed and duplex
settings they'll still report 100/Full.

Every 2950, 2948G, 2980G, and 6500 in our network behaves in the newer
fashion, while probably 98% of the PC and server NICs in our network
still check for the presence of Nway signalling. It took months of
troubleshooting involving several people of different backgrounds in our
department along with resources from Novell and Cisco to figure out what
was going on, and the real answer actually came from responses I had on
Usenet by people who really understood Nway and the fast ethernet
standard.

The only method for setting speed and duplex mentioned in the standard
is the use of autonegotiation. The behavior of NICs when auto is not
used is unspecified. There are basically two common behaviors among NICs
when you disable autonegotiation and the real problems occur when you
have a mix of NICs with different philosophies.

John

 Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:53:14 PM 
I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively
new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

I'd have to disagree with you there.  If you hard-code a device it
can't
fail autonegotiation.  The two are diametrically opposed.  It's any
oxymoron.  Illogical to the nth degree.  And this behavior is notstay
Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used
to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area
like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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Re: Cat 4000 Connectivity Issues! [7:72823]

2003-07-23 Thread MADMAN
John Neiberger wrote:
Stevo 7/23/03 12:02:28 PM 

Hey All,

I have a Cat 4006 running in native mode (running IOS 12.1(13) and can not
ping or telnet to it anymore. It is passing traffic just fine however the
only way I can connect to it is to ping it

   Are you sure you haven't used all your VTY's?  Do you get a 
connection refused when trying to connect?  You could be so low on 
memory that it's unable to create and exec and will crash on it's own in 
time.

   Dave

 
 
 I'm confused. Can you ping it or not?  :-)
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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread Reimer, Fred
Man, someone remind me not to use the greater than and less than symbols on
this list!  Apparently they are striped out as some type of evil HTML code
or something by the software...

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From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

I'd have to disagree with you there.  If you hard-code a device it can't
fail autonegotiation.  The two are diametrically opposed.  It's any
oxymoron.  Illogical to the nth degree.  And this behavior is notstay
Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number
of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network.
If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This
is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our
end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to
using
Nortel switches.  ]
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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread John Neiberger
Yep, that will happen.  Paul (the list owner) said that he thinks there is a
bug in the anti-mime software but he hasn't had time to check into it yet.
So, word to the wise: don't use greater-than or less-than signs in your
emails for a while! It definitely mangles posts if you use those symbols.

John

 Reimer, Fred 7/23/03 3:15:06 PM 
Man, someone remind me not to use the greater than and less than symbols on
this list!  Apparently they are striped out as some type of evil HTML code
or something by the software...

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

I'd have to disagree with you there.  If you hard-code a device it can't
fail autonegotiation.  The two are diametrically opposed.  It's any
oxymoron.  Illogical to the nth degree.  And this behavior is notstay
Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number
of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network.
If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This
is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our
end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to
using
Nortel switches.  ]
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Cisco Routers and Switches [7:72852]

2003-07-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi there,

Can you please advise any good resource to buy used/refurbished/cheap Cisco
gear?

Thanks.
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Re: Cat 4000 Connectivity Issues! [7:72823]

2003-07-23 Thread Stevo
LOL - I just re-read my post... to clarify - I can not ping it, but I can
console to it...

And none of the VTYs are in use.  In fact, when I'm consoled into the device
it can telnet itself just fine!

Really bizarre...

MADMAN  wrote in message
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 John Neiberger wrote:
 Stevo 7/23/03 12:02:28 PM 
 
 Hey All,
 
 I have a Cat 4006 running in native mode (running IOS 12.1(13) and can
not
 ping or telnet to it anymore. It is passing traffic just fine however
the
 only way I can connect to it is to ping it

Are you sure you haven't used all your VTY's?  Do you get a
 connection refused when trying to connect?  You could be so low on
 memory that it's unable to create and exec and will crash on it's own in
 time.

Dave

 
 
  I'm confused. Can you ping it or not?  :-)
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RE: Link flapping PagP 3550 and 1912 frozen - SO [7:72854]

2003-07-23 Thread pierreg
PROBLEM SOLVED:

I added the keyword non-silent on the 3550 in the line

channel-group 13 mode auto non-silent

Thanks for the suggestions though,

Pierre-Alex

-- Original Message --
From: Jonathan V Hays 
Reply-To: Jonathan V Hays 
Date:  Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:46:18 -0400

Have you verified that it is an etherchannel problem and not a link
problem or a cable problem?

Remove the etherchannel stuff on both ends and verify each of the
3550-1912 links is stable.

Have you seen this? I have excerpted part of it below.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/1928v9x/ee_
scg/2addlfet.htm#xtocid11611

Fast EtherChannel Example

This example shows how to enable the Fast EtherChannel feature in
desirable mode, specifies port 27 or port B as the template port for
member-port configuration, and configures the hot-standby port priority
of Fast Ethernet port B to 100.

switch(config)# port-channel mode desirable
switch(config)# port-channel template port fastethernet 0/27
switch(config)# interface fastethernet 0/27
switch(config-if)# pagp-port-priority 100



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pierreg 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Link flapping PagP 3550 and 1912 frozen


A- Situation:  I am using a 3550 and a 1912 to do PAgp.



B- The problem: flapping links on the 3550, frozen 1912 


(1)  Cat3550#


09:43:40: PAgP: Fa0/1 is coming Up
09:43:40: PAgP: Fa0/2 is coming Up
09:43:42: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/1, changed state to up
09:43:42: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/2, changed state to up
Cat3550#
09:43:43: PAgP - Fa0/1 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:43: PAgP - Fa0/2 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:44: PAgP - Fa0/1 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:44: PAgP - Fa0/2 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:45: PAgP - Fa0/1 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
Cat3550#
09:43:45: PAgP - Fa0/2 failed - not my device_id. ..
000a.8aac.b100
09:43:48: PAgP: Fa0/1 action_a7 is entered
09:43:48: PAgP: Fa0/2 action_a7 is entered
09:43:49: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/1, changed
 state to up
09:43:49: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/2, changed
 state to up
09:43:50: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Port-channel13, changed state to up
09:43:51: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Port-channel13, changed
state to up

9:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/1 is going Down
09:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/1 action_a1 is entered
09:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/2 is going Down
09:44:18: PAgP: Fa0/2 action_a1 is entered
09:44:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/1, changed
 state to down
09:44:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/2, changed
 state to down
09:44:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Port-channel13, changed
state to down
09:44:20: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/1, changed state to
down
09:44:20: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/2, changed state to
down

(2) As soon as the pagp negotiation starts,  the 1912 is unaccessible
and the only way to get to it is to shut down the port on the 3550. When
this is done the switch is still unaccessible for another 30 seconds.


C- The configurations


==

The 3550
==


...

!
interface Port-channel13
 switchport access vlan 13
 switchport mode access
 no ip address
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 13
 switchport mode access
 no ip address
 shutdown
 duplex full
 speed 100
 pagp learn-method physical-port
 channel-group 13 mode auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
 switchport access vlan 13
 switchport mode access
 no ip address
 shutdown
 duplex full
 speed 100
 pagp learn-method physical-port
 channel-group 13 mode auto
!
.


---
The 1912
---



Cat1912#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
!
port-channel preserve-order
port-channel mode desirable

...


interface FastEthernet 0/26

  duplex full
!
!
  vlan-membership static 13
!
interface FastEthernet 0/27

  duplex full
!
!
  vlan-membership static 13
!
line console


-

Any suggestions?

Pierre-Alex

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Re: Microsoft VPN through a router [7:72824]

2003-07-23 Thread annlee
VPN ProtocolPort
GRE Not usedNot used
PPTPTCP 1723
L2F UDP 1701
L2TPUDP 1701
IKE UDP 500
ESP 50
AH  51
Note that AH and ESP are protocol numbers, not port numbers 
(though you can refere tot hem by name in Access Lists, just as 
you do telnet or ftp, etc.).

Annlee

Steven Aiello wrote:
 I was wondering what ports I would need to have open for a Microsoft VPN 
   connection on my router.  If I have done my home work correctly I think
 
 IPSec port: 50
 L2TP port : 1701
 PPTP port : 1723
 
 Are these all TCP, UDP???
 
 I don't really have a full understanding of how the protocal and port 
 process of a VPN works.  I understand the theroy; how IPSec incryptes 
 the info in a tunnel data portion of another IP packet blaa blaa blaa. 
 But any more aditional detailed info would be great.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve




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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread mccloud mike
Larry Letterman wrote:
 
 All of our cisco campus devices work just fine with auto/auto
 and
 Multiple hardware types with various nics don't have any
 issues...
 
 If your nics are not auto/auto capable or it does not work
 well, then as
 Fred
 Says, hard code it...However I use auto/auto in my data center
 on campus
 and 
 See no reason to hard code 2000 devices and maintain that many
 different
 settings..
 
 
 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of
 Reimer, Fred
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]
 
 
 They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco
 used to
 have a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best
 practices that recommended hard-coding everything except for
 transient
 devices.  Some crack-head at Cisco decided to update that
 recently and
 now I suppose their official stance is to use autonegotiation,
 ostensibly because they follow the standard correctly, so as
 long as
 everyone else does it should work!  I have not met a Cisco
 engineer yet
 that agrees with that though.
 
 Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an
 area like
 a conference room where you will have transient devices.
 
 Fred Reimer - CCNA
 
 
 Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA
 30338
 Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
 
 
 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary
 information
 which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the
 named
 recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has
 misdirected the
 email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If
 you are
 not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use,
 disclose,
 distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should
 immediately
 delete it from your computer.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]
 
 All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As
 far as I
 can tell there are no reliable software versions for this
 switch that do
 not suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b
 solved our
 problems so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading
 we have
 a number of users complaining and we're not able to resolve the
 connectivity issue.
 
 Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old
 NIC but
 I'm sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the
 network. If you're considering replacing existing switches with
 the 2950
 prepare yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.
 
 You have been warned!
 
 [Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch
 that
 works?? We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC
 connectivity
 bugs??? This is ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions
 of the
 code are to be expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be
 given a
 little higher priority? When we buy a new switch it would be
 nice if
 *all* of our end users could actually connect to the network.
 Maybe
 we'll go back to using Nortel switches.  ]
 
 




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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread mccloud mike
I agree with Larry. We support 6500 + devices and have had our far share of
connectivity issues. Last year we had a few NICs that generated lots of
errors when they were hard set to match the switch. We tried every
combination of negotiation and the only setting the eliminated the errors
was auto/auto on both the switch  PCs.

Cheers, Mike


Larry Letterman wrote:
 
 All of our cisco campus devices work just fine with auto/auto
 and
 Multiple hardware types with various nics don't have any
 issues...
 
 If your nics are not auto/auto capable or it does not work
 well, then as
 Fred
 Says, hard code it...However I use auto/auto in my data center
 on campus
 and 
 See no reason to hard code 2000 devices and maintain that many
 different
 settings..
 
 
 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of
 Reimer, Fred
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]
 
 
 They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco
 used to
 have a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best
 practices that recommended hard-coding everything except for
 transient
 devices.  Some crack-head at Cisco decided to update that
 recently and
 now I suppose their official stance is to use autonegotiation,
 ostensibly because they follow the standard correctly, so as
 long as
 everyone else does it should work!  I have not met a Cisco
 engineer yet
 that agrees with that though.
 
 Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an
 area like
 a conference room where you will have transient devices.
 
 Fred Reimer - CCNA
 
 
 Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA
 30338
 Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]
 
 All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As
 far as I
 can tell there are no reliable software versions for this
 switch that do
 not suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b
 solved our
 problems so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading
 we have
 a number of users complaining and we're not able to resolve the
 connectivity issue.
 
 Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old
 NIC but
 I'm sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the
 network. If you're considering replacing existing switches with
 the 2950
 prepare yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.
 
 You have been warned!
 
 [Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch
 that
 works?? We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC
 connectivity
 bugs??? This is ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions
 of the
 code are to be expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be
 given a
 little higher priority? When we buy a new switch it would be
 nice if
 *all* of our end users could actually connect to the network.
 Maybe
 we'll go back to using Nortel switches.  ]
 
 




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Re: List of Vulnerable IOS Versions?? [7:72758]

2003-07-23 Thread Stevo
So no one has any info for me on this??

 Hey All,

 I'm doing an audit on my Cisco gear and wondered if Cisco has a list of
IOS
 versions that had security holes in them.  I don't care about what the
hole
 is, but I do care that I'm running a vulnerable IOS version!

 Let me know

 Stevo




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Re: List of Vulnerable IOS Versions?? [7:72758]

2003-07-23 Thread
Stevo  wrote in message
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 So no one has any info for me on this??

what, we don't have better things to do? sounds like a job for your local
Cisco account team.
:-



  Hey All,
 
  I'm doing an audit on my Cisco gear and wondered if Cisco has a list of
 IOS
  versions that had security holes in them.  I don't care about what the
 hole
  is, but I do care that I'm running a vulnerable IOS version!
 
  Let me know
 
  Stevo




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Re: Cat 4000 Connectivity Issues! [7:72823]

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Celia Duvall
I'd reset the mask on the sc0 int (regardless of what it shows in the
config) assuming you can't telnet to it from a workstation attached to the
4k (if you can it sounds like a native mismatch on your trunk). I saw this
once on a 2948 at a remote location, it went weeks passing traffic o.k. but
I couldn't telnet or ping until it could be rebooted.


- Original Message -
From: Stevo 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Cat 4000 Connectivity Issues! [7:72823]


 LOL - I just re-read my post... to clarify - I can not ping it, but I can
 console to it...

 And none of the VTYs are in use.  In fact, when I'm consoled into the
device
 it can telnet itself just fine!

 Really bizarre...

 MADMAN  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  John Neiberger wrote:
  Stevo 7/23/03 12:02:28 PM 
  
  Hey All,
  
  I have a Cat 4006 running in native mode (running IOS 12.1(13) and can
 not
  ping or telnet to it anymore. It is passing traffic just fine however
 the
  only way I can connect to it is to ping it
 
 Are you sure you haven't used all your VTY's?  Do you get a
  connection refused when trying to connect?  You could be so low on
  memory that it's unable to create and exec and will crash on it's own in
  time.
 
 Dave
 
  
  
   I'm confused. Can you ping it or not?  :-)
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  Sr. Network Engineer
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Re: Cisco Routers and Switches [7:72852]

2003-07-23 Thread Stevo
www.ebay.com

 wrote in message
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 Hi there,

 Can you please advise any good resource to buy used/refurbished/cheap
Cisco
 gear?

 Thanks.
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Score scaling on exams [7:72867]

2003-07-23 Thread Greg Kirkness
When you sit an exam, the score is between 300 and 1000. I assume that this
means that if you got every question incorrect, you would recieve a 300, and
if you got every question correct you would recieve a 1000.

If this logic holds true, then answering half the questions correctly would
produce a mark of 650 ( discounting weighting of questions ).

Again, if this holds true, then the stated pass mark of say 700 would equate
to only 57% of questions answered correctly. If this is right, then the pass
marks required on most of the cisco exams seems incredibly low.

Is this a correct summation of the scoring, or am I missing something?

Cheers

Greg Kirkness




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Re: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread
only the leftward pointing one ( greater than ) - anything after such a
symbol is deleted.

becomes a problem when discussing prefix lists.


Reimer, Fred  wrote in message
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 Man, someone remind me not to use the greater than and less than symbols
on
 this list!  Apparently they are striped out as some type of evil HTML code
 or something by the software...

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:53 PM
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 Subject: RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

 I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
 the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
 With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
 100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
 half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively new,
 and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

 I'd have to disagree with you there.  If you hard-code a device it can't
 fail autonegotiation.  The two are diametrically opposed.  It's any
 oxymoron.  Illogical to the nth degree.  And this behavior is notstay
 Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
 They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used to
 have
 a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
 that
 recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
 crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
 their
 official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
 follow
 the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
 work!  I
 have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

 Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area like
 a
 conference room where you will have transient devices.

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


 Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
 Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050


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 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

 All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
 can
 tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
 not
 suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
 problems
 so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number
 of
 users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
 issue.

 Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
 I'm
 sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network.
 If
 you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
 yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

 You have been warned!

 [Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
 works??
 We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This
 is
 ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
 expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
 priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our
 end
 users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to
 using
 Nortel switches.  ]
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RE: PCMCIA Hard Disk on 7500? [7:72820]

2003-07-23 Thread Thomas Salmen
i think you'll find that the 7500 won't recognise it, or will only see
64/128M of it.

i know they don't work with 7200's, anyway.

/thomas




 Hi

 Has anyone tried using the 2 and 5 gigabyte PCMCIA hard disks
 from Toshiba
 on a 7500?

 As far as I can see it should work, and it would be nice to
 have one uber
 flash card will all of the possible IOS versions I want to
 play with, but
 obviously I dont want to buy one and find out its useless.

 Im loathed to buy a smaller flash card for twice the price if
 the hard disk
 would work.

 TTFN
 Lauren




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RE: List of Vulnerable IOS Versions?? [7:72758]

2003-07-23 Thread Thomas Salmen
try here

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2284/products_tech_note0918
6a0080132a8a.shtml

this may also be of use. need cco login

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/Bugtool/home.pl

/thomas



 So no one has any info for me on this??

  Hey All,
 
  I'm doing an audit on my Cisco gear and wondered if Cisco
 has a list of
 IOS
  versions that had security holes in them.  I don't care
 about what the
 hole
  is, but I do care that I'm running a vulnerable IOS version!
 
  Let me know
 
  Stevo




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RE: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread Ken Diliberto
We've had issues with desktop machines and new switches.  Have a look at
this document and see if it helps:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech_note09186a00800a7af0.shtml

I searched for NIC PROBLEMS.

Ken

 John Neiberger  07/23/03 11:40AM

In many cases they are autonegotiation issues, but those seem to be
mostly resolved, especially if your end devices are using newer NICs
with updated drivers. In the case of this morning we're dealing with
devices that only run 10/half and the switch is hard-coded for
10/half.
Quite a mess but it's not consistent and we're still trying to
discover
all of the commonalities. 

Out of six or seven locations that were upgraded last night, three
reported problems this morning and all problems related to the same
type
of PC with the same type of NIC. However, none of the other locations
that also have this same PC and NIC have problems. To make it more
frustrating, the problems often don't show up immediately, but instead
show up several days later.

Assuming good code, I'm now an advocate of using auto everywhere
unless
you need to fix a specific problem. In that case, use 100/Half or
10/half. I never recommend hard-coding 100/Full on newer switches like
the 2950 and 6500. It might work but you're just asking for problems.
With the majority of the NICs in our PCs, if you hardset both sides to
100/full you will get a duplex mismatch when the PC NIC falls back to
half duplex when autonegotiation fails. This behavior is relatively
new,
and was not present in the 2924XL, the forerunner of the 2950.

Just last year we added a bunch of newer Cisco switches to our network
and it took quite a while to figure out that most of our new
connectivity problems were due to this change in philosophy within
Cisco
switches. 

John

 Reimer, Fred  7/23/03 12:31:16 PM 
They don't happen to be autonegotiation issues, do they?  Cisco used
to
have
a nice write-up on autonegotiation troubleshooting and best practices
that
recommended hard-coding everything except for transient devices.  Some
crack-head at Cisco decided to update that recently and now I suppose
their
official stance is to use autonegotiation, ostensibly because they
follow
the standard correctly, so as long as everyone else does it should
work!  I
have not met a Cisco engineer yet that agrees with that though.

Hard-code your speed and duplex, unless it is for ports in an area
like
a
conference room where you will have transient devices.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as
I
can
tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do
not
suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our
problems
so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a
number
of
users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity
issue.

Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC
but
I'm
sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network.
If
you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

You have been warned!

[Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that
works??
We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs???
This
is
ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our
end
users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to
using
Nortel switches.  ]
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Frame Relay Back To Back Static PVC [7:72869]

2003-07-23 Thread Maximus
Per these instructions, I am able to bring my frame connection online:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback.html

However when I intentionally break the connection (Pull the Cable) 
the PVC doesn't automatically come back up.  Is it because its static to
begin with?  I know I'm probably missing something very obvious but could
you explain why the interface does not come back online after being
reconnected?  So far, the only way I can get the connection back online is
by using a hard/software configured loopback and  removing it at which point
I'm up, up.

Thanks.

BTW Using IOS versions 12.1(20) and 11.2(26)P4. Configs are identical to the
instructions.


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Re: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]

2003-07-23 Thread Nuurul Basar
Hi,

Is there any particular symptom for this?.  I am going install lots of 2950
48 EA switch to a mix off old and new NIC.

Thanks
- Original Message -
From: John Neiberger 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:58 AM
Subject: Catalyst 2950: The Spawn of the Devil? [7:72821]


 All those who consider any version of this platform beware. As far as I
can
 tell there are no reliable software versions for this switch that do not
 suffer from connectivity bugs. We thought 12.1(13)EA1b solved our problems
 so we started rolling out this version. Upon reloading we have a number of
 users complaining and we're not able to resolve the connectivity issue.

 Granted, this particular problem is between the 2950 and an old NIC but
I'm
 sure we're not the only company with a few older NICs in the network. If
 you're considering replacing existing switches with the 2950 prepare
 yourself for deluge of conenctivity problems.

 You have been warned!

 [Side note to Cisco: How hard is it to build an access switch that works??
 We're on 12.1(13)EA1b and we still have BASIC connectivity bugs??? This is
 ridiculous. Bugs in the more obscure portions of the code are to be
 expected, but shouldn't the connectivity bugs be given a little higher
 priority? When we buy a new switch it would be nice if *all* of our end
 users could actually connect to the network. Maybe we'll go back to using
 Nortel switches.  ]




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640-606 Support Exam [7:72870]

2003-07-23 Thread Richard Mangru
Hi all,

I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions on study material for the
606-606 Support exam?

Thanks
Richard




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RE: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

2003-07-23 Thread Ganesh I
Rusty,

Not sure about it. Why don't you try to load the image again from a TFTP
and see if you getting this error again.

Thanks
Ganesh

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Wilmes, Rusty
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ios upgrade... [7:72779]

Hi,

I tried upgrading IOS on a 3620 via the console (about 1.75 hours!)

Now there's some ugliness in the boot.  I verified the flash and it
seems
ok. 

Boot and sho ver follows.

Just seeing if anyone had any input...

Thanks
Rusty

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
SOFT
WARE (fc2)
Copyright (c) 1994-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 32 bit mode with parity disabled

program load complete, entry point: 0x80008000, size: 0x843438
Self decompressing the image : #.##[OK]

%ERR-1-GT64010: Fatal error, PCI Master abort
 cause=0x0300E483, mask=0x0CD01F00, real_cause=0x0400
 bus_err_high=0x, bus_err_low=0x3100,
addr_decode_err=0x1FEE

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Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:06: %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of .0c86.2235
has
  been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify MAC
  addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow the
  use of this address as a default.
00:00:07: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:00:10: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Router
Router
Routersho ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IS-M), Version 12.1(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 29-May-03 17:29 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60EB4000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc2)

Router uptime is 0 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c3620-is-mz.121-20.bin

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 61440K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 06072235
R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Router




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RE: Frame Relay Back To Back Static PVC [7:72869]

2003-07-23 Thread Degracia, Alex
Make sure lmi is being exchanged.

Turn on keepalives for the pvc.



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From: Maximus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay Back To Back Static PVC [7:72869]


Per these instructions, I am able to bring my frame connection online:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback.html

However when I intentionally break the connection (Pull the Cable) 
the PVC doesn't automatically come back up.  Is it because its static to
begin with?  I know I'm probably missing something very obvious but could
you explain why the interface does not come back online after being
reconnected?  So far, the only way I can get the connection back online is
by using a hard/software configured loopback and  removing it at which point
I'm up, up.

Thanks.

BTW Using IOS versions 12.1(20) and 11.2(26)P4. Configs are identical to the
instructions.




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OSPF Neighbor State is Flapping [7:72874]

2003-07-23 Thread Dain Deutschman
Hi all,

I have 3 devices on an ethernet segment where all ethernet interfaces are in
the same vlan and ospf area 0

catalyst 3550priority 0rid 1.1.1.1
router5priority 2 rid 55.55.55.55BDR
router1priority 3 rid 11.11.11.11DR

The problem is that the switch keeps changing it's state. For example, from
the router 1 perspective I get the following:
( sh ip ospf nei command )


Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
1.1.1.1   0   DOWN/DROTHER   -150.50.15.8 Ethernet0
55.55.55.55   2   FULL/BDR00:00:35150.50.15.5 Ethernet0

Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
1.1.1.1   0   EXSTART/DROTHER 00:00:35150.50.15.8 Ethernet0
55.55.55.55   2   FULL/BDR00:00:38150.50.15.5 Ethernet0

and on and on, back and forth etc.

router 5 perspective:


Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
1.1.1.1   0   EXSTART/DROTHER 00:00:38150.50.15.8
Ethernet0/0
11.11.11.11   3   FULL/DR 00:00:30150.50.15.1
Ethernet0/0

Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
1.1.1.1   0   DOWN/DROTHER   -150.50.15.8
Ethernet0/0
11.11.11.11   3   FULL/DR 00:00:32150.50.15.1
Ethernet0/0

..switch perspective:

Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
55.55.55.55   2   INIT/DROTHER00:00:33150.50.15.5 Vlan15
11.11.11.11   3   INIT/DROTHER00:00:39150.50.15.1 Vlan15

Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
55.55.55.55   2   INIT/DROTHER00:00:37150.50.15.5 Vlan15
11.11.11.11   3   EXCHANGE/DR 00:00:36150.50.15.1 Vlan15

Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address Interface
55.55.55.55   2   EXCHANGE/BDR00:00:39150.50.15.5 Vlan15
11.11.11.11   3   EXCHANGE/DR 00:00:39150.50.15.1 Vlan15

So...it seems as though r1 and r5 are recognizing eachother's roles as dr
and bdr correctly. But they see the switch as down or init or exchange
DROTHER.
The switch however, sees itelf as DROTHER and r1/r5 as DROTHER or
init/exchange dr and bdr. Here is the output from sh ip ospf int vlan15 on
the switch:

Vlan15 is up, line protocol is up
  Internet Address 150.50.15.8/24, Area 0
  Process ID 100, Router ID 1.1.1.1, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DROTHER, Priority 0
  No designated router on this network
  No backup designated router on this network
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
Hello due in 00:00:07
  Index 1/1, flood queue length 0
  Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)
  Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 0
  Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 0 msec
  Neighbor Count is 2, Adjacent neighbor count is 0
  Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s)

Then two seconds laterit changes...

Vlan15 is up, line protocol is up
  Internet Address 150.50.15.8/24, Area 0
  Process ID 100, Router ID 1.1.1.1, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DROTHER, Priority 0
  Designated Router (ID) 11.11.11.11, Interface address 150.50.15.1
  Backup Designated router (ID) 55.55.55.55, Interface address 150.50.15.5
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
Hello due in 00:00:05
  Index 1/1, flood queue length 0
  Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)
  Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 0
  Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 0 msec
  Neighbor Count is 2, Adjacent neighbor count is 0
  Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s)


Any ideas?

Thanks,


-- 
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CCNP, CSS-1, MCP, CNA
Data Communications Manager
New Star Sales and Service, Inc.






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