Terminal Server to 3542 Switch Access Probelms [7:42802]
I am having a problem getting a CS-516 to reverse telnet to a 3524XL Switch. The 516 is running 10.3(7) and can reverse telnet to routers, a PIX and VPN 3005 with no problem. If I move a known good port from say a router to the 3524, it will not make the connection. If I connect my PC serial port to the switch, it works great... the same cable that works with the other devices. I have tried several cables (all that work with other devices.. it should be a rolled cable, but I also tried a straight through cable as well). I have even tried other ports off the 516. Is there anything special about the console port, or config on the 3524? Flowcontrol - Stop Bits??? Thanks Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42802t=42802 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP Synchronization and OSPF External Routes [7:35131]
I don't think this is just OSPF, but rather any protocol that recognized Internal and External Routes. From what I understand, the basic reason is to keep from shooting yourself in the foot. For example, why would you want to advertise addresses that belong to another AS? On Page 135 of Internet Routing Architectures, Halabi writes, (In the Cisco implementation, external OSPF routes are automatically blocked from being redistributed into BGP; the administrator has the option of overriding this behavior.) I haven't tries it, but on page 318, it looks like you simply match both types on the redistribution command... router bgp 3 redistribute ospf 10 match external 1 external 2. Also on 318, Halabi states this is for loop avoidance in the case the external OSPF information came from BGP. For more info you can look on CCO: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/bgp-ospf-redis.html http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np1_c /1cprt1/1cbgp.htm Ed Jeff Hillman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have not been able to find any information on Cisco's site on why BGP synchronization does not recognize OSPF E1 or E2 external routes when checking the IGP routing table. Does anyone have an explination for this? If I put a static route into the local routing table, it synchronizes without any problems. The same is true with any other IGP except OSPF. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a work-around (other than 'no synchronization')? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35186t=35131 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emphasis on token ring switching on CCIE Lab [7:21715]
The 3900 is on the list, expect to configure it. As far as an emphatic hands-on topic I believe there is a tutorial on the documentation CD. I assume the tutorial covers basic configuration, so I would be prepared to do a basic config from memory. As far as any empathic topics... I think you could get away without knowing it intimately... just as you could on virtually any other topic (except for IP, Frame and the core protocols). It is all on the CD. The question is how many topics do you have to lack knowledge on before you run out of time. As you review your exam folder, you will be saying to yourself... I know how to do that and that... I'll have to look this up to be certian... they want me to do what? How!?!Knowing it well just means that you will be able to nail it when you get to the exam. And the fewer time you say I know in the exam... the chances of visiting the lab again will go up. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21733t=21715 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Token Ring Module Problem for Catalyst 5000 [7:21610]
The WS-X5030 Token Ring Module requires a Supervisor II to function. A SUP I provides similar results to what you state the Cat keeps saying the module is resetting or faulty. If you do a sho modules, or a show version, I believe the software/firmware versions will report 0.0. Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21736t=21610 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need some advice on a Frame Relay Latency issue [7:15146]
First - I believe that ICMP replies are a low priority, so they may not be an accurate representation of latency. Second - Latency is primarily a product of distance. In theory, if the line distance is the same, latency should be at least relatively close given a direct line vs. frame. Of course, frame will have some overhead as it tends to traverse more devices. Check with the carrier and verify the line config... is it ESF/B8Zs or SF/AMI? Who is providing the clocking? Are the DS0's 64k or 56k? Verify the settings on the CSU/DSUs on each side. I have seen a similar problem where the line was relatively short, carrier provided no clocking, and the line was set for SF/AMI. The router was using internal T1 WICs with them set to SF/AMI. Simple pings would work fine, but any type of load would cause excessive CRC errors. Changing the T1 clocking to a internal on one side didn't seem to fix it. After some thinking... basically SF/AMI uses 7 bits, and ESF/B8Zs uses 8 bits. This is the difference between 56k and 64k channels. Changing the DS0 on the line to 56k fixed the problem. Ed Raul De La Garza wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello everyone. I have a peculiar problem with one of my company's FR circuits. We have been trying to troubleshoot this issue ever since we purchased FR to replace point-to-point HDLC. This circuit has a 256K CIR and 512K port speed. Bandwidth utilization is low and never approaches the CIR. The remote router's CPU and memory utilization are also very low. At present, only weighted fair queueing is enabled. We have tried priority queueing and traffic shaping to no avail. User response times are extremely high ranging anywhere between 80ms to over 2000ms! Also, we are routing IP (no ip routing protocol, I have set a default route back to corporate as this remote office is one of a few spokes in our hub-and-spoke topology) and we are routing IPX using EIGRP. The central site FR router is a 3640 with two T1 WICs with integrated DSUs. The remote site router is a 2501 connected to an ADC Kentrox DataSMART 658 T1 DSU. Our FR vendor claims that his tests running from DCE to DCE receive a consistent response time of 70ms. However, the vendor has noted that when ICMP messages are sent to the remote router some are responded to very quickly but most do take an unusually great amount of time in responding. This the vendor found when placing a sniffer on the local loop. So it seems that there may be a config issue or a hardware issue at our remote site. Any words of wisdom you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Following are the configs for the remote router and the central router. REMOTE Clrwtr_Frame#sh run Building configuration... Current configuration: ! ! Last configuration change at 14:09:24 UTC Tue Aug 7 2001 ! NVRAM config last updated at 14:28:59 UTC Tue Aug 7 2001 ! version 12.0 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime service password-encryption ! hostname Clrwtr_Frame ! boot system flash 1:aaa0862.bin logging monitor informational enable secret 5 ! ip subnet-zero no ip finger no ip domain-lookup ipx routing 00d0.58ad.759a ipx gns-round-robin ! ! ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 10.48.2.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache ipx input-sap-filter 1005 ipx encapsulation SAP ipx network C0480021 ! interface Serial0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast encapsulation frame-relay no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache ! interface Serial0.1 point-to-point bandwidth 256 ip address 10.201.0.73 255.255.255.252 no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache ipx network C2010073 frame-relay interface-dlci 17 ! interface Serial1 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache shutdown ! interface Dialer0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.201.0.74 ! access-list 99 permit 10.1.4.200 access-list 1005 deny C0480021 3 access-list 1005 deny C0480021 7 access-list 1005 deny C0480021 47 access-list 1005 permit priority-list 1 protocol ip high tcp 5900 priority-list 1 protocol ipx low priority-list 1 protocol ip medium tcp 1352 priority-list 1 protocol ip high tcp telnet priority-list 1 protocol ip medium udp 1352 priority-list 1 protocol ip normal priority-list 1 protocol ip high tcp 12000 priority-list 1 protocol ip high tcp 13000 priority-list 1 protocol ip high tcp 1494 priority-list 1 default low ! ! ipx router eigrp 18 network all ! ! ! snmp-server community tup2go RO snmp-server community redpings RW 99 snmp-server community public RO banner exec ^C *** * * * Welcome to
Re: Pricing for Flash and DRAM for 2501` [7:14158]
Just bought two 8mb flash from http://www.computerpartsnow.com/ at what I tought to be a good price. Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14199t=14158 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable modems 2501s?? [7:13626]
wow... looks like everyone has their own opinion on this. Yes, a 2501 can do inside and outside NAT on the same interface... this would be one solution. Another would be to use primary and secondary addresses on the interface. For both of there, you would need a hub attached to the cable modem and the router. There are many other options out there. Personally I use a LinkSys Cable/DSL router. This has an outside address, and then NATs the inside addresses. It will also do basic PAT as well... I can telent to my lab from the Internet and even better, I can initiate connections, pings, etc from the router in my lab to the Internet. Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13765t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565]
Everyone has some good ideas on this... and one of the replies made me rethink my previous answer Look at it from the aspect of the ROUTER... assuming that this is implemented on a router. An interface with the address of 172.18.2.0 and a mask of 255.255.254.0 will send directed broadcasts to 172.18.3.255. Answer B is correct. However the above router sends a RIP version 1 update (which is classless) to router B. Router B gets the router 172.18.2.0 and no mask information. It assumes a classful boundary. ( I know, there are other rules that affect the advertisement and receipt of the route) Router B will then send directed broadcasts to 172.18.255.255. I think everyone would agree that the question is poorly worded... If I came across the question I would still select 'C' as my answer, 172.18.255.255. My clue in the question is 'using classful assumptions' Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13767t=13565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565]
The key in the question is the word classful. This is a Class B address with a 16 bit classful mask. I would have to say the correct answer would be 'C' 172.18.255.255. Ed Using classful assumptions, what is the directed broadcast address for 172.18.2.0 with the mask 255.255.254.0? a) 172.18.2.255 b) 172.18.3.255 c) 172.18.255.255 d) 172.18.0.0 Answer b) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13600t=13565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward === [7:13243]
I agree with Chuck... I'll take good advice from anywhere I can get it This goes back to : where go you get your good judgment? I get my good judgment from good experience! And where do you get your good experience? From bad judgment! I tend to like the Cisco Press books more for the certification series than the others. First, Cisco is putting their name on the books - Granted, Cisco Press is another publishing company and they are out to make money. However I have to believe that when a Cisco Press book says CCNP/CCDP, it follows the actual Cisco course material more closely, at least that is my experience from reading the books then taking the exams. Remember, there are many ways to do something... but there is also the Cisco way - not to say that the Cisco way is always right, or even wrong, but when they make a statement in a class, it should be that way for the exam. Like the difference between a pilot and a prototype... I come from an electronics engineering background... I think Cisco has the terms reversed in their texts... But when it comes to the exam... its the Cisco Way. There are many authors out there, of which I am one. I was a contributing author to a book in a CCNP series. My certification doesn't mean that I am an expert, and by no means does my Cisco certification qualify me to teach. The sign of a good author or instructor is how well they are able to present the material... Yes, they have to know the material, and this is through experience. However, my experience doesn't provide me with any more insight to the Cisco exams than the person reading the book other than I have taken the exam and passed. I make statements relating to the exam blueprint, and those statements are related to my education and my experience keeping in mind, that my answer may not be the Cisco answer - Ed Edward A. Moss CCNP-VA, CCDP, CNE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13260t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CID [7:12886]
I found that I had already achieved 80-90 % of the study necessary for the CCIE written exam after I completed CCNP and CCDP. My area of study turned to topics related to bridging, DLSW+ and BGP. The materials I used were: Caslow Doyle Halabi OSPF Network Design Solutions EIGRP Design Solutions Giles CCIE Study Guide (very good and in depth discussion of layer 1 2 topics) Advanced IP Network Design I borrowed a firend's Exam Cram book and found it to be virtually useless. Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12899t=12886 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Congrats! I took it six months ago... and know some specific quesitons on the exam that I have never been able to find the answer to! Been to the lab once... and will be there again in January. Best advice... set a study schedule including an outline of the technologies and STICK TO IT! Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11595t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Omaha CCIE Lab Study Group [7:4428]
The Omaha Cisco User Group is putting together a CCIE Lab Study Group in the Omaha, Nebraska area. A lab will be available with some 10 routers, Catalyst 5000 switch, and ISDN Simulator. (Missing ATM and Token-Ring Switching). If you are in the area, please contact me. Ed Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://omaha.ciscousers.org Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4428t=4428 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Exam Subnetting question! [7:4310]
It appears that a portion of the question may be missing. My best answer would be - there are 32 bits total. 22 bits are for the network portion 2^22 = 4194304 subnets 10 bits are for the host portion 2^10 = 1024-2 or 1022 hosts in each subnet. This dosen't match any of your answers. Mileage may vary based on the missing info. If you said it was a class B address range and you had 22 bit mask, I would say: Class B has 16 network bits. The mask is 22 bits, so we have 6 bits to play with for networks. 2^6 is 64 networks. Beware that according to the Cisco Class meterials, they still say the first and last subnet can not be used - so this leaves 62 usable subnets. We still have 10 host bits, so it is the same as above. Beware of the termonolgy - In my example, we have 16 network bits, 6 subet bits and 10 host bits. The network bits are determined by the address class. Ed Edward Moss CCNP + Voice, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4319t=4310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: max speed of X.25 on Cisco routers
The official published answer according to Cisco is 2Mb/sec. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/133/3.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CSU/DSU question
Is it the telco who prvides us what we should use as framing, linecode and encapsulation? or does it depend on the csu/dsu being used. ??? Telco configures the line for the proper coding. ESF/B8ZS is the most common, however SF/AMI is still around. A local carrier here normally provisions their lines (across town for example) for SF/AMI unless the customer requests otherwise. PPP vs. HDLC refers to the line encapsulation, or what the routers use to communicate. This is independent of the line coding (ESF/B8ZS). If you are talking Cisco to Cisco equipment use HDLC.If you are talking Cisco to something else, PPP is the way to go since Cisco's HDLC is a proprietary implementation. (PPP is common when talking to ISP's. Even if they have Cisco gear because it makes PPP their standard). Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subnet question
The 20 bit prefix extends four bits into the third octet (176). 176 in binary is 1011, so with the mask the address ends at 1011. You want to use the next four bits for subnetting (last four 0's) This gives the range of 1011 (176) through 1011 (191) providing 16 subnets with 256 addresses in each subnet. Typically the first and last subnet are not used, toss out 176 and 191, this leaves 177 through 190, each with a 24 bit mask. (We started with 20 bits, and we added four bits for our own subnets). Looking at the possible answers, the following fall in this range. C) 172.16.183.0/24 F) 172.16.190.0/24 Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Certifications on resumes
On the cover page, or under the resume "qualifications section", I will list CCNP, CCDP (only the highest certifications received). Same goes for listing MCSE and not MCP, or CNE and not CNA. At the end, under education and certifications, I will list each certification with the date it was completed. This way it keeps the letters at the end of the name short - the technical people that review the resume will know what's going on when they read it, and all the other info is there for the HR and recruiter types. I also think it shows how quickly or slowly the certifications advance. Ed Robert Padjen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was asked an interesting question this morning by a friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP. I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said no, list it all. Please chime in with your position - unicast if your just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an improper use of the board. Thanks. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 7206 VXR config
I used it to link beteween two 7206's as an alternate path. Had no problem with it at all. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Enabling SSH on a router
I believe SSH is available on 7000 series routers and bigger. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange Router CPU Utilisation
How about other port utilization? From the description, it looks like a backup job. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch for CCNP /CCIE LAB
A 2901 will run the same code as the Catalyst 5000 but is a fixed configuration. These have also reached end of sale. A better solution may be a 5002 or a 5005 since it is newer and can accept a different supervisor engine if necessary. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay...Inverse-Arp..?
Yes, you are correct on both counts. 1. Both Caslow's book and Cisco's documentation state the same - if a map is used, inverse arp is disabled for that dlci for that protocol on that interface. 2. If you set up a lab to prove this, you can't. I did the same, and got the same results as you. Creat the map between the spokes, save the config and reload. When everything comes up, both static and dynamic entries are in the cache. I attended anohter class from Mentor, and asked my instructor about this. He asked Bruce, and the inital answer "IOS bug". I ran my lab using both 11.2 and 11.3 enterprise, with the same results. Bruce was to get back with me with more specifics, but I haven't heard yet. I will definately ask when I attend ECP1 in April. If someone attends this class sooner... maybe they can ask. As far as using it in a lab if I used maps, I would also specify no frame inverse-arp. (I think version 12 automatically adds this). Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Test - retraction
This does cause a bit of confusion I took the CCIE writen twice. I saw the same question on each test. It was in the format of select all that apply. After each test, I looked and looked on CCO to find the possible answer. I researched each of the possible answers that I was presented... and still was unable to find the correct "Cisco" answer. I do like to know where I went wrong - how can I ask this, without violating the NDA? I mean exactly where is the line that will violate the NDA. How many have read version 7 of the Cisco Career Certifications Agreement? In the agreement they make a very broad statent regarding "proprietary inforamtion" that includes: Section 6... "questions, answers, worksheets, diagrams, lenghth and/or number of exam segments and/or questions, or any communication, including verbal communication regarding or related to the exam..." In the broadest sence, I take this to mean, if it was on the test, we can not discuss the topic as it relates to the test.If this is the case, everyone on the list is guilty! Case in point, If I took the test, and saw a question that is related to decoding the RIF, and someone is going to take the test asks "how is the RIF put together." Under the agreement, that would be confidential. Even if Cisco has previously disclosed this information! Hmmm... even in Secion 8, Conduct of Business, of the agreement, "... shall conduct his business in a manner which reflects favorably upon the products, services, reputaion and goodwill of Cisco..." Does this mean that if we work for a reseller, and a customer asks us to compare Cisco's product X to Competitor's product Y, that we have to say the Cisco product is better? I mean if we say that the competitor's product is better, it dosen't "refelct favorably" upon the Cisco product, even if it is true! The above are taken to the extreme. In my mind, a violation is if I ask "I had this question on the exam, what are the answers". Or if I say "I had the following on my exam" If someone asks a question, with the intent of learning the technology, and not to just pass the exam, I will help where I can. Of course, the grey area of violating the NDA is out there somewhere. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The rules have changed...
No, the rules are still the same as they always were. Over a year ago a Cisco SE manager told me that buying used products such as those on ebay were "shady" at the least. He said flat out that hardware could be resold, but without the IOS. The IP only feature set can be obtained for less than $20 from an authorized reseller.The only exception to this rule, and is still a very gray area, if the IOS is in ROM, such as an AGS+ without flash, or a product that has reached end of life and the software component is no longer being sold. Ed Tighe Kuykendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... An interesting read... I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this. Tighe As Cisco's channel partner family has grown significantly in the past few years, we would like to take this opportunity to inform many of our newer partners about our policy regarding the reselling of Cisco products. In addition, we would like to inform all our partners about an exciting new program that affords the opportunity to participate in the secondary market. Like many high-tech companies that produce software, Cisco adopts a policy of nontransferability of its software to protect its intellectual property rights. Cisco product owners are only allowed to transfer, resell or re-lease used Cisco hardware and not the embedded software that runs on the hardware. This policy also applies to Cisco standalone software applications. Because Cisco's installed base of equipment has grown to such large numbers over the years, companies have become more interested in selling and leasing used Cisco equipment on the secondary market. To provide our valued customers and partners with this capability, Cisco has set up a program in which companies can do so and comply with the terms of the software license agreement that accompanies every Cisco product. Companies interested in transferring title and ownership of Cisco equipment that contains embedded software may now purchase a new software license to do so. Leasing companies that wish to re-lease a Cisco product with embedded software to another lessee may also purchase on behalf of the new lessee a software license each time before doing so. To learn more about this new opportunity, as well as how to place orders for software licenses, please visit: http://www.cisco.com/warp/partner/products/swlicense.html -- Tighe Kuykendall Senior Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 828.251.3204 Prism Technology Resources, Inc. 223 Haywood Street Asheville, NC 28801 http://www.Prism-Tech.com -- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written Passed
I finally made a passing mark for the CCIE Written with a 79%. Four days ago I missed the passing score by only 3%. With the encouragement of several people here in GroupStudy, co-workers and friends, I was convinced to reschedule. From my original exam, I scored very low in areas that I thought I would have been comfortable in. I believe my comfort level contributed to those poor scores. Many have said it before read the question, read it again. You should know the answer before you look at the possibilities. After you have made your selection - read it again and ensure it is justified. For studying for the exam, I really don't have much more to offer than what has already been posted elsewhere on the list other than these comments: I believe the "CCIE Study Guide" by Giles provides an excellent presentation on layer one and two topics for each of the technologies (Ethernet, Token-Ring, FDDI, etc.). CCO has many excellent documents. Ones I thought provided a great deal of help in understanding was "Loading System Images and Configuration Files", NLSP, and DSLw+. Once again, thanks to everyone for the help. The journey continues Ed Edward Moss, CCNP, CCDP, CNE. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rip over frame issue
Nigel... take another look, I don't think its split-horizon, router 2 is only a frame switch. That would make it strictly a peer config, not hub and spoke. Next, please post the configs of R1 and R3. What IP addresses are on R3 for S0 and L0? If you have the same networks on both R1 and R3, I don't think you would have any RIP routes, because all networks would be directly connected. Also, is this RIP v1 or v2? With RIP v1 , when receiving information about routes within the same major network, hosts and routers assume the same prefix length as that on the incoming interface of the route information (assuming it is not in the same major subnet). The subnet mask of S0 in your config would be fairly critical. If the 172 address has a 16 bit mask on R1, and S0 has a 24 bit mask, the 172 route on R3 will appear with a 16 bit mask.Again, need the configs to see what is happening. I'm not quite certain how it would be handled if you have the same subnet defined on both routers I kind of assume that since it should have a directly connected route, the RIP route would be discarded. Using the 'debug ip rip' command, you can actually see the update sent by the router. I put together a lab to better understand RIP, you can find the lab and results with links to CCO at http://omaha.ciscousers.org/lab/lab_challenge.htm Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What should we be learning? * OR * Howard I'm hurt
Chuck: Haven't you figured it out? Keep the RFC's next to the bed so they can put you to sleep! No, seriously though - I am from the school where we should know the theory behind it, not necessarily the bitwise detail. If we have the theory behind it, know who is suppose to talk first, then what kind of replies there should be - the general flow of the process - we *should* know when there is a problem and the general area when troubleshooting. And then if we have to, we can go to the RFC to look at the detail. I am with you, I don't write the underlying code for how the equipment behaves, so I don't believe I need to be able to recall the detail from memory. Ed "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 003801c07208$abb8e560$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:003801c07208$abb8e560$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... RFC2328 ( OSPF ver 2 ) almost done. Have modified my thoughts on it. Still seems to be a lot of repetition, but I believe I am beginning to appreciate the complexity of the protocol. Seriously, for those of us browsing RFC's as part of our preparations, what is it we should be learning? As someone who probably will not be writing router code ever, at what point do I turn the page or just close it down entirely? Chuck -- I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will study US! ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco sales engineer -- ARGH!
They all have a product to sell and "their" product IS ALWAYS the best product. Of course, the bigger margin they make the better - after all, it is nice to get those bonus checks. What so many fail to see is that different products may be better than each other for different situations. Qualify the situation, bandwidth, traffic patterns, redundancy, future growth, customer level of knowledge and experience among many other. Only after sizing up the situation, can an accurate image of what is needed appear. We can all sell what we have the trick is to sell what the customer needs. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some OSPF Questions
If you look at the RFC, I believe there are only BDR elections. When a new segment comes up, a BDR is elected, then promoted to DR, then the BDR is elected again. Ed Of some interest - the debug ip ospf hello and debug ip ospf events were silent immediately after unplugging the DR. It was only after the expiration of the dead time that debug ip ospf events indicated the election of a new DR, to whit, the router I was monitoring. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
I believe you can get a 1750-2V (that supports one voice card) or a 1750-4V, that supports tow voice cards. Ed "John Dill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The least expensive way to go is get a 1750. The 1750 uses the same personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need the extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600. Careful. The 1750 DOES require a voice processor card, a PVDM-4 will provide DSP resources for one VIC card. It lists for $400, and it is not included in the base model. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay Map Help
No, Inverse arp at the hub is still active. Since there is a frame map statement on the spokes, I expect that inverse arp would be disabled for the protocol (IP) and the dlci as Cisco's documentation states. Caslow's book shows that the spoke router would lose the dynamic maps. On the other hand the hub has no idea of the spoke's map statement... and will still send its info down the serial line the spoke router will hear the info and associate the IP with the dlci. This is the only rationalization I have as to why the spoke router still gets the dynamic info. Ed "Stull, Cory" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 0D7A05A19CE4D211BD050008C7330FE71F4399@CCUPDC">news:0D7A05A19CE4D211BD050008C7330FE71F4399@CCUPDC... Edward, Do you also have inverse arp disabled at the hub router? If not this would explain why the remotes/spokes are still getting the info dynamically. I could be wrong... but I'm very often not right. Cory -Original Message- From: George Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Frame Relay Map Help Try 'clear frame' on the spoke router, see if it still works. If that does do it, save the config and reload the spoke router. George Zhang Sam LI wrote: well, read that chapter carefully, I have difficult on understanding when I first read it Sam Li - Original Message ----- From: Ed Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:34 PM Subject: Frame Relay Map Help I am working through Caslow's Bridges Router and Switches book and I am trying to get a firm understanding of frame-relay. I have generally recreated the lab on page 126 with the minor changes of adding another router and changing addresses. For those without the book (which is very good by the way) this is frame on physical interfaces i n a hub and spoke configuration. The hub can ping all spokes, and each spoke can ping the hub. However, spokes can not ping each other until the 'frame-relay map ip" statement is added to point to each spoke. Everything can now ping everything else. Now we save the configs and reload. Since map statements have not been added on the spokes to point to the hub (since they were originally learned dynamically) I expect that dynamic inverse arp to be disabled, and there will be no dynamic entries on the spokes for the same protocol and the same dlci. This is not the case in my lab here is the relevant part of the config on one spoke, and the results of 'show frame-relay map' interface Serial1 ip address 192.168.14.2 255.255.255.0 encapsulation frame-relay frame-relay map ip 192.168.14.3 201 frame-relay map ip 192.168.14.4 201 no frame-relay inverse-arp Router2#sho frame-relay map Serial1 (up): ip 192.168.14.1 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), dynamic, broadcast,, status defined, active Serial1 (up): ip 192.168.14.3 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), static, CISCO, status defined, active Serial1 (up): ip 192.168.14.4 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), static, CISCO, status defined, active Can someone explain why this is happening? (also explain how disabling frame-realy inverse arp works since I get similar results). Thanks Ed Edward Moss, CCNP, CCDP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frame Relay Map Help
I am working through Caslow's Bridges Router and Switches book and I am trying to get a firm understanding of frame-relay. I have generally recreated the lab on page 126 with the minor changes of adding another router and changing addresses. For those without the book (which is very good by the way) this is frame on physical interfaces in a hub and spoke configuration. The hub can ping all spokes, and each spoke can ping the hub. However, spokes can not ping each other until the 'frame-relay map ip" statement is added to point to each spoke. Everything can now ping everything else. Now we save the configs and reload. Since map statements have not been added on the spokes to point to the hub (since they were originally learned dynamically) I expect that dynamic inverse arp to be disabled, and there will be no dynamic entries on the spokes for the same protocol and the same dlci. This is not the case in my lab here is the relevant part of the config on one spoke, and the results of 'show frame-relay map' interface Serial1 ip address 192.168.14.2 255.255.255.0 encapsulation frame-relay frame-relay map ip 192.168.14.3 201 frame-relay map ip 192.168.14.4 201 no frame-relay inverse-arp Router2#sho frame-relay map Serial1 (up): ip 192.168.14.1 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), dynamic, broadcast,, status defined, active Serial1 (up): ip 192.168.14.3 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), static, CISCO, status defined, active Serial1 (up): ip 192.168.14.4 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), static, CISCO, status defined, active Can someone explain why this is happening? (also explain how disabling frame-realy inverse arp works since I get similar results). Thanks Ed Edward Moss, CCNP, CCDP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Companies requiring proof of previous salary
Rule 1: You are only worth what it costs to replace you. Rule 2: There is ALWAYS someone willing to do more work for less money. On applications, it normally asks salary at each position. I typically list the range of my present position. I am normally willing to provide a copy of my present job description, and the HR document that show the salary range for the position. (depending on where I am in the scale) It boils down to the point where your skills are more important to one employer than another, and that employer is willing to show it. For me to leave one job and go to another, so same responsibilities and same pay, there must be something extremely wrong with my present employer. On the other hand... moving to a new job often means new responsibilities and challenges. If I am happy where I am, the potential employer needs to provide an incentive for me to leave... and to do that I typically I look for at least a 10% - 20% jump in pay. Ed **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Trivia
I believe both would arrive at the same time, i.e. start of frame. However; because of encoding, the packet on 100Mb line would complete the process of sending the entire packet first. Ed **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed the written
Congrats on passing the written. Hopefully I can have the same experience and say "it didn't seem very hard" when I take it at the end of October. Ed **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: personal firewall
LinkSys has some good basic products that are priced around $110 and $170. Like I said, these are basic and dont provide features like stateful packet inspection, filters based on TCP/UDP, etc. I also believe they have a limit of something like 10 ports active per connection unless you do a passthrough, but that sort of defeats the purpose of the firewall. Watchguard also makes a product that I think is better, but it costs about $370. It provides both NAT and PAT, and you can filter based on source/destination addresses and port numbers. The first year of "managed security" is also provided... although giving up control has overtones of Big Brother but hey... its a service for people that dont know firewalls. They also offer web filtering with the product with like 14 different categories... good if you have kids that use the net. Ed **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transit traffic
I bellive transent traffic would be "sub-optimal routing", or traffic that is not addressed to you network. Another way of saying it... this is traffic that should never get to your network because there should be a better path to its destination... its just "passing through" to get to where it needs to go and using your valuable bandwidth along the way. Ed Moss CCNP, CCDP, CNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Collisions
If the router and the switch are the only devices connected, say by a cross over cable, I would first make the assumption that the crossover cable is at fault. Next, I believe all of the 10Mb router interfaces are half-duplex, so I would ensure the switch port is set to half-duplex and 10Mb (don't let the switch auto configure the connection) Last the only time I have personally seen this was when the network had multiple subnets configured with workstations at 100Mb, and the router had to route between them. This was during an IP address conversion that wasn't quite completed. (Servers were left on one subnet while workstation were on another.) Workstations would negotiate a 100Mb, full duplex connection... then try to talk to a server (same broadcast domain, different subnet) at 100Mb full-duplex. The bottleneck was the router at 10Mb half-duplex. Ed Moss CCNP, CCDP, CNE "Mike Baker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What could be possible reasons for getting collisions between a router and a catalyst switch? The link is 10mbps. Michael K. Baker Telecom Network Analyst ALLTEL Information Services 2000 Highland Road Twinsburg, Ohio 44087 330-963-1648 www.alltel.com INIHGROBMALATNAWI ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Visio Stencils
Here are the files you are looking for: http://www.dtool.com/cisco_visio.zip http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/503/2.html Ed Edward Moss CCNP, CCDP, CNE "Watson, Rick, , OUSDC" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I know this has been posted in the past, but does anyone have a link to all the "pretty" stencils of Cisco equip to be used in Visio? Thanks for the help. Rick Watson, ...OLE_Obj... Senior Systems Engineer OUSD (Comptroller) Network Operations 703.697.5710 office 800.341.6853 pager [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE-Qual...
Sorry had old information from: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/437/3.html At one point the mark was a bit lower for everyone other than Cisco Are you sure about 65%. I took the 350-001 today got 66% and failed. --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP to CCIE
I am also a CCNP, and decided to complete the CCDP tack as well. I found inforamtion contained in the Cisco Press CID text very helpful. I also followed this up with Cisco Press "Advanced IP Network Design". I know I learned at least a little that will help with CCIE At the very least, I found out where I need to spend more time! Ed Moss CCNP, CCDP, CNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE-Qual...
In a word Yes Look at the CCIE roadmap on CCO. Passing is 70% for Cisco Employees and 65% for everyone else. Ed 1. Do we need to study VoIP VoFr ? 2. Do we need to study VPN IPSec ? 3. What is the passing score for the exam ?. 4. What are all the important areas to concentrate on for the exam ? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed CCIE RS written
Congrats on passing the CCIE Written.Hopefully I will follow soon. In regard to CCIE written... how much of a chance you belive someone has to pass the written exam with only study for CCNP and CCDP? What areas do you feel someone with CCNP and CCDP needs to focus on for the written exam? Ed ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Prerequisites
SNIP " everyone seemed to at least have an MCSE before attempting the cisco route. Is this highly essential to succeed? " SNIP No, I dont believe it is highly essential... however, I believe most that working in the Networking Infrastructure area have been brought up through the LAN/Server Administration area. MCSEs should have a better understanding of the associated Windows protocols. The same is true CNEs, they should have a better understanding of the Novell networking model and protocols. It boils down to experiance not letters or certifications. Just like anything else, you can work through the Cisco certifications with dedication and commitment, but experience will make this much easier to relate to. Ed Edward Moss CCNP, CCDP, CNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks - CID passed
Thanks to everyone in the group... I passed CID this morning which completes the CCDP track. I completed the test in one hour They provide two hours to obtain a minimum 65% on 100 questions. To study, I used only the Cisco Press Books "Cisco Internetwork Design", and followed this up with "Advanced Network Design". I also used Cisco's Self Paced Training "SNA/IP Solutions for Systems Engineers". CCO was invaluable as I also read through the document "ATM Network Design" and reviewed the overviews and specs of various ATM products since the Cisco Press books leave much of this information out. As many have stated on the list, the majority of the test centers around Network/Protocol/WAN design. The test objectives published by Cisco are an accurate representation of what is on the test. This test was "easier" than DCN as I didn't have to worry about case studies, however there wasn't as much networking theory, but much more info to recall. If you didn't read it... or don't know it... you most likely wont get the correct answer. General test taking... trying to eliminate obvious wrong answers wont help much since most of the statements or potential answers are correct, but may not relate to the question. For example... a question may be related to the distribution layer but makes accurate statements about all three layers... end result... you have to know which one fits into each layer. Now its off to CCIE Again... thanks for everyone's help. Ed Edward Moss CCNP, CCDP, CNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ccna question-help
It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says "protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically protocols. Ed I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: select the connect-oriented protocols: 1.ATM 2.TOKEN RING 3.FDDI 4.Ethernet 5.FrameRelay ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]