Re: OSPF Database Filter [7:38431]
I have no way of testing this, but the understanding that I have is that, Passive-interface stops the processing of routing updatesbut doesn't stop Hello's from being advertised out that interface Yet the database-filter will not allow neighborships from being formed So you might have the passive-interface but hello's are still being sent out that interface, If someone could check this with a passive-interface turn on ospf debug John Neiberger wrote: There are two related commands that prevent flooding of OSPF LSAs: ospf database-filter all out neighbor a.b.c.d database-filter all out I'm curious about how precise they're being with the word 'flooding'. Will this command stop *all* LSAs or does it simply filter out the periodic flooding of LSAs roughly every 30 minutes? Again, I don't have a way to test this at work at the moment and I can't find a better explanation on CCO, at least so far. It seems to me that if it stops all LSAs, there's not too much difference between that and the passive-interface command. The command references specifically use the word 'flooding' so at this point I'm thinking they are only referring to the periodic flooding of LSAs and not the other types of LSA exchanges. Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38464t=38431 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
The company has no level of professionalism. They call you in for this Cattle call. You and 15 other people for a interview for the same job. Then they want to do all of the negotiation. I find that any job they set you up for they are trying to keep about $20,000 +. So becareful, of them or anyone that wants to do all the negotiation for you. They get paid the difference. Steven A. Ridder wrote: They do that in Boston as well. TechieGold.com is thier website as well, which I suspect has fake jobs as well. Furthermore, in our area they merged with Remington. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Atlantis Partners is just a bad company all around, from what I can tell. Here in Denver they post fake job openings just to get people to send in resumes to fill their databases. I couldn't believe it when I discovered that they did this. Why would anyone use a company that does stuff like that?? John Sean Knox 3/13/02 3:02:29 PM I would say it's a sign that recruiting firms, such as Atlantis, don't have a clue, as it has always been. - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is really funny :) I don't think it's a sign that the industry doesn't acknowledge CCIEs as all-round experts anymore (hopefully not anyway!) I think the word junior is just to justify the relatively low salary range they're offering (in California). Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38271t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loopback Interfaces..long reply, read carefully please to [7:38300]
The answer everyone keeps giving you is no.
Mark Odette II wrote:
OK, For some reason, my first time of sending this reply got chopped, so
here it is again.
Brian, et al.,
Please Note the following:
***All I wanted to know was: Can the Loopback Interface be used to host a
complete subnet (and the Router make routing decisions with this inteface),
or is its functionality such that it will always respond like an interface
configured with a 255.255.255.255 mask, and 86 traffic not destined for IT
on the same subnet??
I'm not looking for someone to help me make a completely working config for
all routers in this implementation.
The idea is to do such:
!Interface FastEthernet0
! description Connected to PIX Outside Interface, and PIX Inside Interface
is subnet for Data traffic.
! Ip adress x.x.x.x 255.255.255.x
!Interface Loopback0
! description VoIP subnet with VoIP originating/terminating on this
Router... other hosts also placed on the same subnet at a later date, and
connecting via the Ethernet Port which connects to a switch that the other
hosts are also plugging into.
! Ip address 192.168.101.1 255.255.255.0
!Interface Serial0
! NO IP ADDRESS
! Encap Frame-Relay
!Interface Serial0.1
! description Connected to the Internet
! Ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.252
! interface-dlci 16
!Interface Serial0.100
! description Connected to HQ over PVT FR for Voice traffic
! ip unnumbered loopback0
! interface-dlci 100
! {insert Map-Class Tag here}
!{Insert Route-Maps Here}
!{Insert Voice configuration here... a.k.a. Dial Peers}
!{Insert QoS config here... a.k.a. Map Classes}
!Router EIGRP 1750
!Network 192.168.100.0 Brian
Mark Odette II wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
OK, I'll make the question simpler.
Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use an
ethernet interface?
Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0
Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1
Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routing
process, such as EIGRP or RIP.
Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the
same
subnet as the loopback interface.
Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network.
add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRP
AS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP
AS
or RIP configuration.
And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and
route
traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either
the
Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet
that
is assigned to the Loopback interface.
What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopback
interface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the same
subnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet mask
for all hosts including loopback interface.
I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-P
subinterface.
Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on each
respective router.
Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the wire (FR
Network).
Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopback
interface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network).
Is this Possible??
The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan to
assign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believe
that the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify
IP
Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ip
unnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address,
which
is not desired.
The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NAT
Translating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet.
For Topology description:
Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3
remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface.
Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface,
while
connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR traffic
only (no Data traffic)
Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1
Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1
... So much for a simpler reply. :)
Thanks in advance for everyones' comments.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Tshon
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do.
Ping the remote routers, they have a serial
interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a
loopback, what routing protocol are you
running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking
a
Re: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272]
What you are seeing is that you still have a L2 interface. you have combined multiple interfaces into one, and then assigned the one interface an IP address. Check CCO on switching. Jeffrey Reed wrote: Check out the link I pasted in my original email on how to configure a Layer 3 channel. It shows these commands and a little more: Router# configure terminal Router(config)# interface port-channel 1 Router(config-if)# ip address 172.32.52.10 255.255.255.0 I never saw it before... Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Letterman Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] You cant set etherchannel to a layer 3 address, not in any of the cisco switches I had. Its only a layer 2 link, not a layer 3 link. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Reed Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] When would you use Layer 3 EtherChannel? Ive bonded layer two links together before, but not sure when you could/should use the layer 3 EtherChannel? http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/ios127xe/config/ channel.htm#12748 Thanks!! Jeff Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38301t=38272 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Management VLANs? [7:38282]
Not sure, I'm understanding your question but try this. Make all of your switches operate in Vlan 2 all other management protocolsCDP,VTP and such are in VLAN 1 and then use the rest of your vlan for date traffic from hosts. Michael Kelker wrote: this isn't a direct CCNP cert question, but I was thinking of trying to make my network infrastructure easier to navigate. I was thinking of creating a VLAN on a certain IP scheme and have each piece of equipment have a virutal interface on it. Am I going about this the right way? How do some of you address this issue? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38302t=38282 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - Riddle - The Obvious Question [7:38336]
Chuck wrote: this is not one of those I have a customer questions, although I have a customer is the starting point. A couple of years ago a small college installed a new cable plant consisting of fiber for data and copper for analogue phones between their main telco closet and a couple of dormitories. there are currently a total of 80 analogue phones in the dorms. The idea was that dorm occupants would arrange for their own telephone service, and use an analogue phone to connect to the telco. Well, room mates being what they are, the college decided that rather than continually break up fights resulting from disputes over telephone usage and payment, they would provide the means for two phones per room rather than one. Ah, but there is only enough copper between the buildings to accommodate one phone per room. What to do. the customer's question to me - can he use the existing fiber to transport the analogue signal to the main telco closet? Well, I merrily mulled this over, and came up with a number of very clever solutions. But after having completed the work, it occurred to me that because I was so jazzed at trying to come up with a solution, I neglected to ask a very important question. So today's quiz, for all you techno gurus - what is the question I neglected to ask? for extra credit - why is that question so important? Hint - consider the ways one might convert analogue to optic. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38357t=38336 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple routes Q [7:38353]
You were just about right, except Administrative distance is used when to different routing protocols advertise the same route. Metric is used as the tie breaker if multiple paths exist within a routing protocol. Hunt Lee wrote: Could someone help me get a clear understanding about this: I understand that when multiple routes exist in a routing table, the route with the longest match will be chosen. Administrative Distance will only breaks a tie between two routes of equal length. So, what is the metric for? When will a router uses metric to select a route e.g. to select a route via Router A since it is metrically closer than Router B to Router C. Thanks Everyone in advance. Best Regards, Hunt Lee System Engineer WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38359t=38353 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does someone know? [7:38322]
You need to configure the T1 and Identify what channels you are using. Ali, Abbas wrote: On my 2600 router, I configured the T1 0/0 controller, and the below message is keep appearing. 00:23:10: %CONTROLLER-5-UPDOWN: Controller T1 0/0, changed state to down (RAI de tected) 00:23:12: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Serial0/0:0, changed state to reset 00:23:13: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0:0, changed s tate to down 00:23:22: %CONTROLLER-5-UPDOWN: Controller T1 0/0, changed state to up 00:23:24: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0:0, changed state to up 00:23:25: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0:0, changed s tate to up Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38360t=38322 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF neighbour query [7:38312]
You also type it out to us: R1 has an ip address of 10.103.56.97/20 and R2 has an ip address of 10.103.56.1/21 Steven A. Ridder wrote: Reading your output further, the router told you that the masks didn't match: OSPF: Mismatched hello parameters from 10.103.56.1 Dead R 40 C 40, Hello R 10 C 10 Mask R 255.255.248.0 C 255.255.240.0 -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... the mask is the wrong length. neighbors have to agree on mask length. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Chhetri Naresh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI Guys I have an OSPF question andmy network setup is as follows: R1--Switch--R2 R1 has an ip addres of 10.103.56.97/20 and R2 has an ip address of 10.103.56.1/21. Under OSPF the foll network command is present network 10.103.56.0 0.0.7.255 area 8. Both the routers are in the same area. The problem is that they dont form neighbours. When i ping 224.0.0.5 from both the routers both of them respond and there is no problem at layer3, ican ping each other. i did a debug on R1 and get the foll OSPF: Mismatched hello parameters from 10.103.56.1 Dead R 40 C 40, Hello R 10 C 10 Mask R 255.255.248.0 C 255.255.240.0 Its a plain config with no changes to the timer, i am assuming that since they are a broadcast ospf net work they should form neighbours. Also the foll output will be helpfull, R1#FastEthernet1/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.97/20, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 209.25.40.16, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 209.25.40.16, Interface address 10.103.56.97 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:03 Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) - R2#sh ip ospf in FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.1/21, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 10.96.255.70, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 10.96.255.70, Interface address 10.103.56.1 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:07 Index 4/4, flood queue length 0 Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0) Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 0 Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 0 msec Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) Pls advise, i am going crazy over it. Thanks in advance. cheers naresh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38362t=38312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pirority group damn it [7:38084]
I'm not sure but your config says that anything ip with a source add 10.1.1.2 to any place gets high priority. But anything else ip gets low priority arp and so on. Is that what you are trying to accomplish? what about other traffic not originating from the firewall, all user traffic gets placed in the low queue? Cisco Breaker wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding priority groups. We have 2 firewalls. 10.1.1.2 and 10.1.1.3. I am using 10.1.1.2 . But even if I am using 10.1.1.2 the connection is slow as before. What is wrong with my config? Any answer will be highly appreciated. Best regards, Ciscobreaker, CCNP,CCDP Router#sh run Building configuration... Current configuration : 2121 bytes ! version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime service password-encryption service udp-small-servers ! hostname Router ! enable secret 5 $1$J0OT$To6EJUMsXnNQN6v.yGy9R1 enable password ak interface Ethernet0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 ! interface Serial0 bandwidth 128000 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 priority-group 1 ! interface Serial1 no ip address ! no ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 no ip http server ! no logging trap access-list 150 permit ip host 10.1.1.2 any priority-list 1 protocol ipx medium priority-list 1 protocol pad normal priority-list 1 protocol ip high list 150 priority-list 1 default low ! line con 0 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password ak login ! end Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38086t=38084 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ospf and static routes [7:38107]
Depending on what the static route is. If the static is a default route, you could redistribute with the redistribute static or you could use default information originate. You could also make the static next hop a interface that is already apart of the ospf domain. then automatic redistribution will happen. NetEng wrote: If I have a static route to the outside world, how do I add that to OSPF? Do I have to create static routes on my ABR to get outside? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38136t=38107 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP exams [7:38097]
Recertification is just that to see you have kept up the knowledge that you have earned. The CCNP track still gives you the basics but make you aware of quite a few options to tune implement and troubleshoot your network. As you have attained the various certs your worth to the company has increased, you production will increase. You can now easily identify problems in less time, and make recommendations. Your confidence increased also, making you a little more confident in taking harder problems. As for your negotiating skills that is on you. Most companies don't really know what they need, but as certified people inter their company they adjust their salaries. You might run into a company early on that has no clue and with a CCNA get $80,000 move to another company with that be bold and quite, you won't get that later. You'll probably be placed in a position where the salary range is from 60-80k for a CCNA, CCNP, trust me you'll be at the bottom of that pay scale. If you can get your CCNP the first time, you should be able to get it the second time. Don't panic Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote: The CCNA is a joke. If a employer is requiring a CCNA or CCNP I would hope that they would do a little research and understand what goes into getting these certifications. Also, you need the CCNA to get your CCNP so I don't see how the CCNA would be more attractive. I am not sure why Cisco has changed the CCNP track again, maybe too many people are passing the exams. However, I passed all the exams in just under 6 months and I thought that self study and the books were plenty to get throught the exams. Also, the 500 or 600 dollars you spend is for advancement and marketability in our industry. I feel the most qualified candidate for a job will have On The Job Experience along with an education and certifications. Remember this is your career. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP exams [7:38097] My comment is with the CCNP exams. When I started it was the 500 series, which was not long ago, now its changing to the 600 series. For some people it takes a while to pass a CCNP exam, so I have not had enough time to get a lot done in the 500 series, let alone switch to 600. I know the 600 is not out yet, but still. Also here is a question, why would someone want to take the last exam in the CCNP series, because when you take the last exam, your 2 year timer starts ticking. Where is the motivation there? I think I am just going to work on the course material, and not take the rest of the exams, $125 a pop is a lot, and you're right there are so many exams. So for CCNP it would cost me $500. Then if I wanted to do the security, another 400-500$, that saying if I passed everything on the 1st go. Then the books and courseware. Then re-certification, this is an expensive proposition. And I don't see a significant salary increase for CCNP certification. Like a regular experienced Network engineer with MCSE/CCNA makes say like 60-85K. Well that is the same range as a CCNP would make. I donno, the way some of these help wanted ads are written, you would think that CCNA is better then CCNP. I always see like CCNA highly desired. I am already scheduled for 503, so there is nothing I can do about that. But I ask myself this question. What is the difference between me going to a testing center, paying 125$ for each of these exams vs. me going in my bedroom, sitting down with a Boston or transcender to test my knowledge. I think I might do just that. Besides, everyone says it is more important to know the material, and then have some paper. I am not knocking the CCNP, it's a great program. But right now I can afford these ongoing cost, and the ongoing cost are not exactly justified. I thought the exams for the CCNP did test my knowledge of the subject fairly. My plan for right now is to learn all the material I would need to be a CCNP, but not take the rest of the exams. If an employer request I have my CCNP, Ill just say gimme $500 and Ill go do that. -Original Message- From: Yahoudi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063] should anyone be surprised that Cisco too is becoming victim to the certification craze? 1) cert tests for everything under the sun 2) reduction of the CCIE Lab from two days to one 3) obsolete and EOL'd equipment in the Lab 4) lower level tests that have too many filler questions centered around marketing materials 5) poorly worded questions? sometimes I wonder if this is just the excuse of those who don't really know the materials, but since I know your work, Robert, in your case I will accept your judgement on this It would be impossible for Cisco to test for everything out there - old and new. The question becomes this:
Re: CCSI and how to get there [7:37938]
Mathew, I'm not sure if I know you or not, are you in the Seattle area? Well anyway, the current market for CCSI's is overloaded. The training partners are having a hard time staying in business. The contract CCSI's most are out of work and or have moved on to permanent positions until the economy bounces back. I hate to discourage you but I would try doing other training like MCT and when the market bounces back hopefully you have aligned yourself with a Authorized training partner. You require sponsorship to get the CCSI cert. Without sponsorship you will not get in. The CCSI cert will and is always tied to a training partner, it is never really yours unless you work out some type of contract. Tshon CCSI Matthew Tayler wrote: Ok I have tried cco - which gives very little away - and the Groupstudy archives which seem to relate to ICRC and other out of date material. How I get to CCSI ? Basically I have an inheritance - with certain conditions - which should finance the process, but, what's the process. I would prefer not to be tied in to an employer as part of it, if that makes sense. The aim being to be come a freelance trainer. Thanks for any advice Matthew Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37951t=37938 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bgp multihome [7:37948]
You could have both providers send you default routes and place a weight on the provider you'd prefer to use w/ Neighbor weight command. brian kastor wrote: I have looked at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/40.html and I understand multihoming to 2 different providers. What I can't seem to figure out is if I need a full routing table on the router to make this work. Can someone explain why, if I have 1 router, 2 isp's, multihomeing, how I can use default routes from bgp or at this point do I need a full routing table? thanks, ipguru Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37953t=37948 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice Cert [7:37965]
I positive your answer is on the CD documentation which means it is on the web site. Jeremy Rogers wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if anyone can help me on this. I just took the CIPT test and there was a question on there that I can not seem to locate the answer for. I am not looking for the answer, merely a resource as to where I can find it. The question is as follows: What is the error message on the call manager when no more DNs are available. I have looked in the Cisco Press Ip Telephony book as well as searching on the Cisco site. Once again, is there anyone that could help me locate a resource to finding this answer? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37990t=37965 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
a T1 is a physical layer circuit. ISDN's PRI is technology that rides inside a T1. So you could have a T1 between two sites in a point to point setup, or You could have a PRI that forms a point to point when dialed across any of its B channels, between to sites what you have is a T1 between you and a telco (isdn) switch and your site. This connects you to the toll switched network or PSTN cloud. At the cloud you can make a call on any of the 23 B channels a B channel is 64k but there is another channel which is the D channel, taking up the last 64k channel. A T1 has 24 channels. Brian Zeitz wrote: OK, I am just confused, is a T1, and a T1 PRI are the terms used interchangeably? What about ISDN PRI? Hope you don't mind newbie questions :) -Original Message- From: Sujal G. Ajmera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:26 PM To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to a T1 - 1.5Mb For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI HTH Suj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38004t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame-Relay encapsulation issue [7:38061]
Show us your configs. Also, I remember there was something I heard once That pinging a frame interface is actually sent out the interface before responding. which meant that the traffic goes out on the circuit and is sent back like I said some typ of rumor. I would check the CCO and it should explain it in more detail. Kelly Cobean wrote: All, I am stumped by some behavior I am seeing in my lab when testing frame-relay. I have a 4000 configured as a frame switch; nothing special, just the standard frame-relay route commands necessary to switch the traffic between two other routers (we'll call them rtrA rtrB, for clarity.) On rtrA, I have configured a physical interface with a map statement. On rtrB, I have configured a P2P sub-interface with a frame-relay interface dlci xxx statement (you can't use a map statement on a P2P interface, the router complains). All works fine, and I can ping rtrB and rtrA from rtrA and vice versa (In other words, I can ping my own interface and the remote interface on both routers). Here's where it gets weird...If I delete the P2P interface on rtrB, reload to get rid of the residue, then reconfigure the router with a multipoint sub-interface and a map statement, I can still ping rtrA just fine, but I lose the ability to ping rtrB from rtrB itself (i.e. pinging my own interface) I lose the ability to ping rtrA's interface from rtrA at this point as well. Debug output shows the typical encapsulation failed error, but I'm at a loss as to why I can ping the remote router, but not my own interface? Anyone have any thoughts? I'm sure I'm missing something, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. Thanks in advance for any input. Kelly Cobean, CCNP,CCSA,ACSA,MCSE,MCP+I Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38065t=38061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do. Ping the remote routers, they have a serial interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a loopback, what routing protocol are you running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking about, we need your help to help you. Brian Lodwick wrote: This has got to be the most confusing message I have ever read. A loopback interface is just a virtual interface. It's not a real interface it's just a virtual interface you can create within the router, and you can create as many as you want. The biggest reason someone would want to use a loopback interface would be for resiliency. If you build a certain session to the loopback interface (BGP, DLSW...) and you have more than one path to reach this router the session will not die if a certain interface dies. ___ ( ) --- r1 Brian Mark Odette II wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Just when I thought I understood Loopback interfaces, I decided while redesigning a network, that I would use them but now I'm questioning my comprehension. Somebody clear the confusion for me- Please. This is what I'm wanting to do, but not sure if this is proper utilization, much less whether or not it will work: RouterHQ connecting to 3 Remote Routers (branch offices) via FR Pvt Network RouterHQ has 2 Ethernet Interfaces, but the Remotes Do NOTThey only have one. (I think without pause: No Problem, I can just create a Loopback interface to take care of the other subnet.) The FR Pvt Network is only for Voice Traffic, while all data traffice will be going out another interface that is using IP UnNumbered Interface FastEthernet0. Here is where my quandry lays. I can't create a Secondary address, as I believe the IP UnNumbered command will use the primary address on the Ethernet Interface. So, can I create a Loopback interface, and treate it like a Ethernet interface, as such that I can assign an IP to the Loopback interface, but it have a /24 mask, and other devices on the local network can also be keyed for the same subnet as the Loopback, making it where I can give the command IP UnNumbered Lo0 to a Serial SubInterface?? I thought I could, but then got concerned when I hopped on CCO, and did a lookup on Loopback interfaces, and read a blurb about traffic NOT destined for the LoopBack Interface itself will be routed to 'ye old trashcan' i.e., Null Interface. Somebody please tell me that I can send traffic from one end of the circuit to the other and have it destined for a node OTHER than the Loopback Interface with that node being on the same subnet as the Loopback interface. Thanks. Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38069t=37933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP Metric and Route inconcistence [7:38043]
I'm not sure I understand your entire question. But, I hope this helps... you have to many formulas. What the recommendation states is that if you are running other routing protocols like ospf who takes its decisions based on bandwidth statements then you shouldn't change them, because it will also affect ospf. But here think about this you could change the K values for Eigrp, to only look at delay. then adjust the delay for what you wish. Hans PHAM wrote: Hi, By default EIGRP uses 2 metric: Bandwidth and Delay to calculate routes. It is recomended that we should not change the Actual Bandwith, but we can change the interface delay for the traffic enginering purposes. The metric is : Min Bandwidth + Cumulative Delay. This can end up with a problem of route non-consiste1nce. Here is my counter example: R2 / \ /\ R1 R4-R5 \/ \ / R3 Link 1-2 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms 2-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms 1-3 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 15ms 3-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms 4-5 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms The traffic from R1 to a network directly connected to R4 will be load balance between routes R1-R2-R4 and R1-R3-R4. because the Metric of the two routes are the same: R1-R2-R4 = Bandwidth (i.e. 10^7 / 1) + Delay (i.e 1000 + 500) = = 1000 + 1000 + 500 = 2500 R1-R3-R4 = 500 + 1500 + 500 = 2500 However, traffic from R1 heading for R5 is not load-balanced because the Metric R1-R2-R4-R5 is 3500 while the metric R1-R3-R4-R5 = 4000 that means all traffic from R1 - R5 will go via R2 That's is a kind of inconcistence, which may lead to bottleneck, and cause difficulty for traffic engineering. Could you please tell me if I am wrong or right ? If I am right, how we can overcome this problem. Thanks a lot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38072t=38043 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one prepare you for anything that is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't gaurantee that you won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are prepared to represent their company. Secondly if you don't have any understanding about the equipment and you run into it, what's your suggestion just replace it, it might work perfectly well, but we'll replace it because you aren't familiar The test and the labs as John knows are not if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are over lots of technology that has been around. the same old situations exist with new ones. And you need to be prepared for it all, in the end you need to be prepared to use your resources and understand quickly. A company might be losing or wasting money because of you. So, why whine the test shows you what you didn't know that is what a test does. Go back and bone up, then you'll pass. Tshon John Neiberger wrote: If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test. Here's a suggestion for Cisco: Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. Compile a list of the top 30 posters, with special considerations for the people who tend to answer most often. From that list, randomly pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions each. I promise you that the end result would be 300 questions that are higher quality than a majority of the questions Cisco has on their current exams. Repeat this process for each new exam needed. Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! Regards, John On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greetings all - I have a discussion point that I am curious to get feedback on from the group. I recently took another Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the questions. For example, at least four questions regarded products that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some time ago. Other questions included choices that don't exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router for serial connections (it was a switch that does not have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no reasonable way to answer them without having previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. My observation is that this is bad for us as certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests and represent to our employers that they represent a certain level of professionalism, I think I have a real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am concerned about this for non-native English speakers taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is not the first test (production or beta) that I have noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. Please share your thoughts. BTW - If this is considered an OT item please disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding and then address the issue with Cisco if there is agreement that there is an issue. As the content of the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the potential benefits are valued. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38075t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: routing [7:38071]
Have you tried to redistribute the static route. If not how are your other routers suppose to find out about that network. Check their route tables. kaushalender wrote: Hi group , I have cisco 2610 router on which I am using static routing .I have new customer which is directly connected on my 2610 router.I have problem that from router i am able to ping the lan ip of the customers end router but from outside i am not able to ping the customer ip means that from my machine i am not able to trace the lan ip of the customer.Althoug I have put route in the router.Can somebody help me in resolving thip prob. The serial of customer at our end interface Serial0/3 description BACK OFFICE 64-SHARED CIRCUIT bandwidth 64 ip address 216.252.243.9 255.255.255.252 ip access-group 107 in ip access-group 107 out rate-limit input 64000 64000 64000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop rate-limit output 64000 64000 64000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop encapsulation ppp The route i have put in router ip route 216.252.243.32 255.255.255.248 216.252.243.10 the output of sh ip route 64.0.0.0/8 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks C 64.110.105.76/30 is directly connected, Serial0/0 C 64.110.93.192/28 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 216.252.243.0/24 is variably subnetted, 10 subnets, 4 masks S 216.252.243.192/28 [1/0] via 216.252.243.6 S 216.252.243.176/28 [1/0] via 216.252.243.2 C 216.252.243.160/28 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 C 216.252.243.6/32 is directly connected, Serial0/1 C 216.252.243.4/30 is directly connected, Serial0/1 C 216.252.243.2/32 is directly connected, Serial0/2 C 216.252.243.0/30 is directly connected, Serial0/2 C 216.252.243.10/32 is directly connected, Serial0/3 C 216.252.243.8/30 is directly connected, Serial0/3 S 216.252.243.32/29 [1/0] via 216.252.243.10 10.0.0.0/22 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 10.101.0.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 S* 0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Serial0/0 Plz help me Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38079t=38071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multichassis PPP Multilink?!?!? [7:37892]
Multichassis Multilink PPP Overview Prior to Release 11.2, Cisco IOS supported Multilink PPP (MLP). Beginning with Release 11.2, Cisco IOS software also supports Multichassis Multilink PPP (MMP). Multilink PPP provides the capability of splitting and recombining packets to a single end-system across a logical pipe (also called a bundle) formed by multiple links. Multilink PPP provides bandwidth on demand and reduces transmission latency across WAN links. MMP, however, provides the additional capability for links to terminate at multiple routers with different remote addresses. MMP can also handle both analog and digital traffic. This feature is intended for situations with large pools of dial-in users, where a single chassis cannot provide enough dial ports. This feature allows companies to provide a single dialup number to its users and to apply the same solution to analog and digital calls. This feature allows internet service providers (ISPs), for example, to allocate a single ISDN rotary number to several ISDN PRIs across several routers. This capability allows for easy expansion and scalability, and for assured fault tolerance and redundancy. MMP allows network access servers to be stacked together and appear as a single network access server chassis so that if one network access server fails, another network access server in the stack can accept calls. With large-scale dial-out, these features are available for both outgoing and incoming calls. Stack Groups Routers or access servers are configured to belong to groups of peers, called stack groups. All members of the stack group are peers; stack groups do not need a permanent lead router. Any stack group member can answer calls coming from a single access number, which is usually an ISDN PRI hunt group. Calls can come in from remote user devices, such as routers, modems, ISDN terminal adapters, or PC cards. Once a connection is established with one member of a stack group, that member owns the call. If a second call comes in from the same client and a different router answers the call, the router establishes a tunnel and forwards all packets belonging to the call to the router that owns the call. Establishing a tunnel and forwarding calls through it to the router that owns the call is sometimes called projecting the PPP link to the call master. If a more powerful router is available, it can be configured as a member of the stack group and the other stack group members can establish tunnels and forward all calls to it. In such a case, the other stack group members are just answering calls and forwarding traffic to the more powerful offload router. Note High-latency WAN lines between stack group members can make stack group operation inefficient. Michael Williams wrote: Hey all. Has anyone here gotten to use Multichassis PPP Multilink? All of the documentation I read keeps referring to dial-up and Access Servers, but one Cisco doc says: MMP is supported on the Cisco 7500, 4500, and 2500 series platforms and on synchronous serial, asynchronous serial, ISDN BRI, ISDN PRI, and dialer interfaces. Does this mean I can use this to bond multiple T1 between different routers? Here's the scenario. Let's say I have two 7500s at headquarters and a remote with with two 2500's, each with a single point-to-point T1 connection back to one of the HQ 7500s (2500A has a T1 back to 7500A, and 2500B has a T1 back to 7500B). Can I use Multichassis PPP Multilink to combine those two into a single bundle for load-balancing purposes? Any input would be appreciated since the Cisco docs aren't very clear as to what you can/can't do with this protocol. Thanks! Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37896t=37892 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialer unbindable [7:37260]
We need your config. This will help us see your problem. omit ip addresses and passwords! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using Chap anthencation? Have you checked that chap hostname/passowrd between these two router? Is dialer remote-name ... configed in the receiving end router's dialer interfaces? Tony Teresa wrote: Dear Group, two cisco routers connected via ISDN and a both connected to the Internet with the same bri. One bri configured and two dilaer interfaces. From one router I can browse the internet and I can reach the other router (64k for the internet and 64K for lan-to-lan connection), but when the dialer 1 is up (to the internet) I can not ping the remote router and I have the following reject (from debug isdnq931): dialer unbindable. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Teresa Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37380t=37260 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
Mario, Please forgive everyone else. They should remember that you never know who you'll run into again, or who might be listening. All of these guys do represent their immediate company, and cisco. What they should have said is, if your prepare well you'll pass. Go over the material until you feel you know it like the back of your hand. The test will prove, that you do or you don't. SoQuit winning and study, Set a date and be prepared! ;-) sam sneed wrote: Yeah Mario What the hell were you thinking? You'd better go study your ass off for a couple months nonstop and not worry about your what score you need. This ain't a game. No ones playin around over here. How dare you ask such a question? We spend 18 hours day studying this stuff, do you think we care what passing scores we need? Our hands, eyes, and minds are weary from all the studying and practice. I've got a bum leg from dropping a 4700 on my big toe, I wobble around like a drunk penguin because of it. And you expect to tell you what the passing score for a Cisco exam on a Cisco certification newsgroup? NEVER ps. passing score is 755/1000 J-B wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks Tim Medley, well put Mario, you should really concentrate on learning the technology, be able to understand how it can be utilized in many different situations and when you take the test, you don't have to think about the passing grades. My two cents. JB, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP.One day CCIE(it looks like an eternity..just a joke). Tim Medley wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36759t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q on FR spoke configuration. [7:36293]
The answer is A or B... if you have just one pvc coming in from the switch, and inverse-arp running you don't have to do anything on the spoke. B would work fine if inverse-arp is working. A would take care of everything and leave nothing to chance. (all considering one pvc coming into the spoke) Rajesh Kumar wrote: Hi all, Can somebody clarify me the following : 1. In a Hub-Spoke configuration of FR network, what is the appropriate configuration on the spoke side when it is a (a) Physical Interface : FR map statements / Interface-dlci (b) Point-Point interface :I am pretty sure it is Interface-dlci config. (c)Multipoint interface :FR map / Interface-dlci ( I know it doesn't mean much by making a spoke to be a multipoint interface, but lets keep for argument sake..) Thanks, Rajesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36314t=36293 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nortel NNCA certification [7:36190]
The answer, First I like you to know that I am a Cisco Certified Systems Instructor, and also that I am a Nortel Networks Certified Instructor. But, anyone of the certifications will give you the knowledge you need to attain the other. When it comes down to it, the standards are the standards. Each vendor implements the standards, from there they then implement propietary technoligies. What you have to learn for both companies is who to interface, with their equipment.command line or gui. then understand the proprietary and cross platform standards. Sorry, that I have to inform you of this first. But, most people in the industry have a higher regard for the Cisco certs than any other Networking vendor. That is usually because of limited implementation of the other products. You should one get the cert you need for your current employment situation. Then you should pursue you personal financial goals. After that you can attain the others cert fairly easy. I am not aware of any study groups but good luck! Tshon Ocsic wrote: any NORTEL NEWSGROUP ? James Barber Hi, firstly my apologies for posting this in a Cisco group. However, there are (still) other networking vendors, and I'd like to get the groups opinion on the Nortel NNCA certification. James ___ http://www.webmail.co.za the South-African free email service Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36207t=36190 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
guys should keep in mind: No there is no CCIE Q or written cert. Cisco has identified you as a lab candidate. This applies to everyone on the planet. You have been invited to take the lab, if you pass the written and after that date you are still a CCIE candidate just like everyone elso on the planet. Just because you are a CCNP w/a specialization or not. you are not invited! Next there is the financial aspect for corporations (the smart one). CCIE's are expensive salaries are easily $120,000/yr plus. But, if I can get a guy just before he passes lab but after he has passed his written, I know that he is trying and his knowledge will continue to increase. I then close to lab time have a CCIE on staff, working for pennies. And I have first crack at a offer. So, thanks to the demand for CCIE's the CCIE written as you have been identified has had a little weight, not taking into account the present economy. Now there have been job posting for CCIE written, candidates, Qualification exam people. And if you feel confident enough to wear that title put what they are looking for on the resume. Now CCNP whatevers have not been identified as such by anyone on the planet. Finally it comes down to this Do you have a number behind those letters? nrf wrote: Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36277t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interesting DDR Brain Teaser (long and pointless ) [7:36279]
Yes this is possible exactly as you discribed. Hope fully in this scenario you have more than one bri. But, say you don't you have two B channels unless the load exceeds one of the B channels you have no problem I believe the last question is is there a priority or preempt command? Make a dialer interface and see : - ) John Neiberger wrote: I was just talking to a guy I work with about this and I thought it was an interesting scenario. It was his idea and my first thought was that it wasn't possible, but then after a little more pondering I decided that it might be possible. Note: 'possible' does not mean desirable. :-)Here's the scoop: [A]-[B] | \ |\ | \ |\ | \ |\ | \ [C] --- [D] Site A is connected to B, a disaster recovery facility, via frame relay. A also has point-to-point connections to sites C and D. C and D are connected via frame relay but obviously only use the frame relay link to reach A if their own primary link goes down. C and D have ISDN connections configured to dial B in case both links to A go away (Dialer Watch). Now for the twist What if you wanted to configure C to dial D when the load on its primary link reached a certain point, yet still dial B if both point-to-point links went down? I haven't completely figured out how to do this yet, but here's a start. You might configure two Dialer profiles, one for each destination. On the major interface on C you'd configure Dialer0 as your backup interface and configure an appropriate load. When the line utilization reaches that load, the router would dial Site D. Then you might configure Dialer Watch on Dialer1 and make it dialer Site B if routes originating from Site A disappear. The difficulty is that the Dialer interface that calls Site B would have to have absolute priority. If the primary link goes down, because Dialer0 is configured as a backup it might grab the BRI first. Even if it does get there first, when Dialer Watch kicks in, we'd have to have a way to clear the line immediately so Dialer1 could dial out. Is that possible? Admittedly, I'm a bit weak on DDR of this variety, but this sounded like an interesting brain teaser. Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36279t=36279 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interesting DDR Brain Teaser (long and pointless ) [7:36283]
I can't remember but... this also helps dialer pool-member number [priority priority] [min-link minimum] [max link maximum] - Assigns a physical interface to a dialer pool. priority priority - Sets the priority of the physical interface within the dialer pool (from 1 to 255). Interfaces with the highest priorities are selected first when dialing out. min-link minimum - Sets the minimum number of ISDN B channels on an interface reserved for this dialer pool (from 1 to 255). Used for dialer backup. max-link maximum - Sets the maximum number of ISDN B channels on an interface reserved for this dialer pool (from 1 to 255). John Neiberger wrote: Thanks. I knew there was a way to set the dialer priority but I just wasn't sure how it operated. I have yet to find a reference on CCO that specifies what the priority really accomplishes. If a dialer with a high priority needs to use a line but the line is being used by a dialer with a lower priority, does it simply disconnect the existing call and take over? Or, does it make use of the fast idle timer to be a little more fair? I'm still looking on CCO at the moment. Hopefully, I'll find a link that makes this more clear. Thanks again, John Tshon 2/22/02 3:07:43 PM Yes this is possible exactly as you discribed. Hope fully in this scenario you have more than one bri. But, say you don't you have two B channels unless the load exceeds one of the B channels you have no problem I believe the last question is is there a priority or preempt command? Make a dialer interface and see : - ) John Neiberger wrote: I was just talking to a guy I work with about this and I thought it was an interesting scenario. It was his idea and my first thought was that it wasn't possible, but then after a little more pondering I decided that it might be possible. Note: 'possible' does not mean desirable. :-)Here's the scoop: [A]-[B] | \ |\ | \ |\ | \ |\ | \ [C] --- [D] Site A is connected to B, a disaster recovery facility, via frame relay. A also has point-to-point connections to sites C and D. C and D are connected via frame relay but obviously only use the frame relay link to reach A if their own primary link goes down. C and D have ISDN connections configured to dial B in case both links to A go away (Dialer Watch). Now for the twist What if you wanted to configure C to dial D when the load on its primary link reached a certain point, yet still dial B if both point-to-point links went down? I haven't completely figured out how to do this yet, but here's a start. You might configure two Dialer profiles, one for each destination. On the major interface on C you'd configure Dialer0 as your backup interface and configure an appropriate load. When the line utilization reaches that load, the router would dial Site D. Then you might configure Dialer Watch on Dialer1 and make it dialer Site B if routes originating from Site A disappear. The difficulty is that the Dialer interface that calls Site B would have to have absolute priority. If the primary link goes down, because Dialer0 is configured as a backup it might grab the BRI first. Even if it does get there first, when Dialer Watch kicks in, we'd have to have a way to clear the line immediately so Dialer1 could dial out. Is that possible? Admittedly, I'm a bit weak on DDR of this variety, but this sounded like an interesting brain teaser. Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36283t=36283 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interesting DDR Brain Teaser (long and pointless ) [7:36285]
go further down... the command I sent you let you set a minimum number and max number of B channels to use there for excluding some B channels for use by another dialer profile. John Neiberger wrote: I've been reading and I still don't see how to do it. The command you mention seems to solve a different problem. If I had a single dialer interface and two physical interfaces to choose from, the priority lets the dialer know which to try first. I have yet to see how to give one dialer interface priority over another when there is only a single BRI available. Still looking though! John Tshon 2/22/02 3:45:58 PM I can't remember but... this also helps dialer pool-member number [priority priority] [min-link minimum] [max link maximum] - Assigns a physical interface to a dialer pool. priority priority - Sets the priority of the physical interface within the dialer pool (from 1 to 255). Interfaces with the highest priorities are selected first when dialing out. min-link minimum - Sets the minimum number of ISDN B channels on an interface reserved for this dialer pool (from 1 to 255). Used for dialer backup. max-link maximum - Sets the maximum number of ISDN B channels on an interface reserved for this dialer pool (from 1 to 255). John Neiberger wrote: Thanks. I knew there was a way to set the dialer priority but I just wasn't sure how it operated. I have yet to find a reference on CCO that specifies what the priority really accomplishes. If a dialer with a high priority needs to use a line but the line is being used by a dialer with a lower priority, does it simply disconnect the existing call and take over? Or, does it make use of the fast idle timer to be a little more fair? I'm still looking on CCO at the moment. Hopefully, I'll find a link that makes this more clear. Thanks again, John Tshon 2/22/02 3:07:43 PM Yes this is possible exactly as you discribed. Hope fully in this scenario you have more than one bri. But, say you don't you have two B channels unless the load exceeds one of the B channels you have no problem I believe the last question is is there a priority or preempt command? Make a dialer interface and see : - ) John Neiberger wrote: I was just talking to a guy I work with about this and I thought it was an interesting scenario. It was his idea and my first thought was that it wasn't possible, but then after a little more pondering I decided that it might be possible. Note: 'possible' does not mean desirable. :-)Here's the scoop: [A]-[B] | \ |\ | \ |\ | \ |\ | \ [C] --- [D] Site A is connected to B, a disaster recovery facility, via frame relay. A also has point-to-point connections to sites C and D. C and D are connected via frame relay but obviously only use the frame relay link to reach A if their own primary link goes down. C and D have ISDN connections configured to dial B in case both links to A go away (Dialer Watch). Now for the twist What if you wanted to configure C to dial D when the load on its primary link reached a certain point, yet still dial B if both point-to-point links went down? I haven't completely figured out how to do this yet, but here's a start. You might configure two Dialer profiles, one for each destination. On the major interface on C you'd configure Dialer0 as your backup interface and configure an appropriate load. When the line utilization reaches that load, the router would dial Site D. Then you might configure Dialer Watch on Dialer1 and make it dialer Site B if routes originating from Site A disappear. The difficulty is that the Dialer interface that calls Site B would have to have absolute priority. If the primary link goes down, because Dialer0 is configured as a backup it might grab the BRI first. Even if it does get there first, when Dialer Watch kicks in, we'd have to have a way to clear the line immediately so Dialer1 could dial out. Is that possible? Admittedly, I'm a bit weak on DDR of this variety, but this sounded like an interesting brain teaser. Regards, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36285t=36285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT today at 3pm EST [7:35394]
Breath! If you have passed all the others and understand the concepts contained with in all the courses, you will pass this test. Its not hard. But, if you don't breath, you could die!! Signed Toris S Stephens Tshon CCSI, CCNP, CCIE lab on 24th Joshua Barnes wrote: Well the big day is today, I also have an interview today at noon. Hows that for pressure?! Anyhow I have read the McGraw Hill CIT book twice, took all the BOSONs. Lets hope. Is there any last interview or test taking tips you fellas and ladies would like to hand out? Thanks, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35397t=35394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAN IP [7:35405]
Tom, You should first understand what protocol you are running across your wan. This is very important. Because of this importance, I would suggest that you subnet down to 2 host per subnet, and configure point-to-point sub interfaces, with each sub interface being on a seperate subnet. Toris Tshon CCSI, CCNP, CCIE Lab on the 24th Tom Richs wrote: If you have lets say 4 WAN sites or 3 WAN sites connecting as a triangle, does it make sense to use one network lets say 192.168.5.0/30 as the subnetted ip address for all the WAN serial interfaces between all the sites. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35438t=35405 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ip subnet Zero Ip classess [7:35340]
Ok, try this Ip- classless: allows a router to look for routes classlessly (understands subnets) meaning it will do a longest bit match with routes in your routing table but if after checking for subnets it doesn't find one locally then it follows the default route. With out this command the router would still do a longest bit match but doesn't understand subnets, and would check for a subnet if it is not local to your router it would be dropped. Ip subnet-zero- This allows the use of the zero subnet and the ip addresses in that range. take for instance you have a 10.1.1.0/24 and you decided to break that up into 2 networks. the network would be 10.1.1.64/26 and 10.1.1.128/26 you have lost two networks network 10.1.1.0/26 (.1-.62, 63 is broadcast) and its ip addresses and 10.1.1.192/26 (.193-254, 255 is broadcast) and its ip addresses. PING wrote: ip classless is used to tell the routing protocols which supports VLSM that subnet should be sdvertised as part of the route. ip classfull on the other hand is used to restrict to use major class subnet mask. Nadeem == Arnaldo Gomez wrote: Can someone give a gerneral explanation on these two commands? ip subnet-zero ip-classless What do they do and why would you use them? Thanks. Arnaldo -- Ishrat Nadeem Zahid CCNP Cisco Systems,Inc. Chelmsford, MA 01824 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35370t=35340 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tacacs Problem: Router Lockout [7:35223]
I believe that your problem isn't that you aren't doing the correct sequence, but I think that if you are trying to send the break from win nt/2000 it doesn't work unless you know how to set it. You do need a machine that sends the break key. Farooq Ali wrote: Hi All: I would appreciate if some one can help me in the right direction: scenario: Trying to install Tacacs on a Win2k server, copied the config for the NAS from the install window of TACACS. It has the command to TACACS all lines, vtys,con,aux,telnet. Then the TACACS install is not complete and now cannot log into the router. Telnet, Aux and con all require Username and Password. Read the documentation and found out that authorization should have been only on PPP or vty lines, not console, so a 3600 router sits locked up. Its a non production test router . Any ideas on how to reset the router Have tried the password Recovery procedure, but not sure , if am able to send the correct break signal, but trying to do the break signal isnt working. Has anyone done this beforeThanks in advance. -- ___ Win a ski trip! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35233t=35223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dce / dte [7:35138]
Ok, Here it is. Hopefully very simple. The dce think of it as a translator it speaks two different technologies at layer one of the osi model. The dce recievies a signal from say a t1, which operates at level one of the osi model. The t1 signal has clock in it this is derived from a stratom clock passed down through the networks for timing.. so you have two dce or csu both operating on the ends of the circuit, in the same language using the same beat in synch. All of this is fine, but the routers have to take the data that they are receiving and pass to the dce. So this requires that the routersdte... are also in synch... where can they get the common signaling from? you guessed it, the same timing signal can be passed to the routers from the csu lets try that again, the dte can receiving the timing from the dce. the dce terminates the t1 circuit, derives the timing and places that on a timing pin/pins to the dte. The dce also derives the data from the t1 and sends that on the data pin/pins to the dte tshon (CCSI) McIntosh, Leslie (US - Tulsa) wrote: In short: DTE - Data Terminal Equipment Source of Data over a serial link. Most have a UART chip which controls Error Detection and Clocking. Router DCT - Data Communications Equipment device supporting serial transmission. Modem, CSU/DSU. www.dictionary.com - though they do not mention that DTE provides the Clocking mechanism for the link, and UART only brought up the Universal Asynchronous Receiver/Transmitter decode. I recommend a Network Dictionary or Encyclopedia of Networking - a very handy reference. Thank You, Leslie McIntosh Network Engineer Deloitte Touche (918)461-4894 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: dce / dte [7:35138] Will some one tell me technical difference b/w dce and dte, and how we use them. thanks, - This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. - If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35157t=35138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
