Solutions for the Solie Labs - ?? [7:75239]
Hello,Does any one if there is a way to get the solutions for the Solie Labs from CCIE PS Vol. I?Thank you. Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75239t=75239 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: Solutions for the Solie Labs - ?? [7:75239]
If you mean the labs in the back of the book, you can download the solutions at www.ciscopress.com. Look up the book then under More Information, click on downloads. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75242t=75239 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Solutions for the Solie Labs - ?? [7:75239]
Ive got them here (along with my review of the book) http://www.optsys.net/cciepractreview.htm thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccbootcamp.com (cisco training) Cisco Nuts wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello,Does any one if there is a way to get the solutions for the Solie Labs from CCIE PS Vol. I?Thank you. Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75261t=75239 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
IPexpert versus fatkid labs [7:74939]
Which one is better? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=74939t=74939 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
IPEXPERT LABS [7:66418]
How do you guys feel about the IPEXPERT labs in the workbook? Has anyone tried them?, what is your thoughts on them and how is it as compared to the real lab. Thanks, KB _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66418t=66418 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R/S Practice Labs and Bootcamps [7:66318]
In preparation for the R/S exam this summer, I would like to find out 1) Solid R/S practice lab materials 2) Good R/S bootcamp Any recommendation will be appreciated. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66318t=66318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice Labs - Redustribution Strategies [7:66306]
Awesome!! ChuckThis should go down as one of the best redistribution attack strategy for the Lab.Are you going to post in on your web-site?? Many like me can learn from this.. From: The Long and Winding Road Reply-To: The Long and Winding Road To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Practice Labs - Redustribution Strategies [7:66306] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 04:45:47 GMT For the past couple of weeks I've been whacking out various CCIE practice labs. I've also been suffering various degrees of euphoria and depression, depending upon how badly I was suckered by the redistribution problems. After a particularly long and frustrating day with the Cisco ASET Lab #1, it suddenly occurred to me that there are many ways to do things, and for some reason, I've been overlooking what may be the best way to deal with redistribution. Those of you who have worked these practice labs know how it goes. You read through the lab, then you start configuring. Step 1 - set up OSPF Step 2 - set up RIP Step 3 - redistribute between OSPF and RIP Step 4 - set up EIGRP Step 5 - redistribute between EIGRP and RIP Step 6 - set up IS-IS Step 7 - redistribute between IS-IS and OSPF Step 8 - scream in anguish as you discover that your routing tables have turned to trash and half your network becomes unreachable. ASET #1 was particularly nasty in how it accomplished Step 8 Which brings me to the topic of this post. CCIE's and folks who've been through the Lab without success - what do you think of this approach: 1) do NOT do any redistribution anyplace until all routing protocols have been configured everywhere. Yes, I know that typically you have a section with several steps, one of which is redistribution. But mark your place and return after the IGPs are up and running and all routes for a particular IGP are where they should be. 2) return to the first redistribution task. Before configuring anything, refer to your diagram ( you DO write out a nice diagram, don't you? ) and ask yourself: after I do one way redistribution, what routes will appear where? 2a) Consider how administrative distance might change things 2b) Follow the redistribution to it's extreme. For example, if you redistribute EIGRP into OSPF, what routers will these routes end up on? Will there be any implications to the routing tables? 3) repeat step 2 for every redistribution point, each time considering the totality of the contents of the redistributed routes. So if you have redistributed IS-IS into OSPF, how do those redistributed routes flow through the OSPF domain? 4) Keep an eye out for things like split horizon 5) every step along the way, consider what routers need to see what routes. Watch for situations where necessary routes do not appear. ( you have probably trashed it because of overzealous filtering. ) 5) If problems occur, such as a routing loop, trace back where the problem route came from, and see what can be done to evade the problem. Summary routes work wonders sometimes. So do route-maps and distribute lists. Re-reading this, I see that this topic does not lend itself well to text. I can say with certainty that I now have a very clear vision of redistribution methodology. I've tested it three times now with different labs, and I believe I am solving the redistribution problems more quickly than ever. I hope that I have painted enough of a picture that some of you can fill in the rest. Chuck -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66320t=66306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice Labs - Redustribution Strategies [7:66306]
This may not always be an option, but I would use tagging and route-maps instead of distribute-lists any time I can. There is just too much room for serious, show-stopping errors, with distribute-lists. With route tagging, you could mess up and end up with a packet taking a suboptimal path to a destination, and you could lose some points, but the packet will get to its destination and whatever was riding on this will probably work. But that's just me working around my natural absent-mindedness-- taking as a given that I will screw up the distribute lists. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 The Long and Winding Road wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the past couple of weeks I've been whacking out various CCIE practice labs. I've also been suffering various degrees of euphoria and depression, depending upon how badly I was suckered by the redistribution problems. After a particularly long and frustrating day with the Cisco ASET Lab #1, it suddenly occurred to me that there are many ways to do things, and for some reason, I've been overlooking what may be the best way to deal with redistribution. Those of you who have worked these practice labs know how it goes. You read through the lab, then you start configuring. Step 1 - set up OSPF Step 2 - set up RIP Step 3 - redistribute between OSPF and RIP Step 4 - set up EIGRP Step 5 - redistribute between EIGRP and RIP Step 6 - set up IS-IS Step 7 - redistribute between IS-IS and OSPF Step 8 - scream in anguish as you discover that your routing tables have turned to trash and half your network becomes unreachable. ASET #1 was particularly nasty in how it accomplished Step 8 Which brings me to the topic of this post. CCIE's and folks who've been through the Lab without success - what do you think of this approach: 1) do NOT do any redistribution anyplace until all routing protocols have been configured everywhere. Yes, I know that typically you have a section with several steps, one of which is redistribution. But mark your place and return after the IGPs are up and running and all routes for a particular IGP are where they should be. 2) return to the first redistribution task. Before configuring anything, refer to your diagram ( you DO write out a nice diagram, don't you? ) and ask yourself: after I do one way redistribution, what routes will appear where? 2a) Consider how administrative distance might change things 2b) Follow the redistribution to it's extreme. For example, if you redistribute EIGRP into OSPF, what routers will these routes end up on? Will there be any implications to the routing tables? 3) repeat step 2 for every redistribution point, each time considering the totality of the contents of the redistributed routes. So if you have redistributed IS-IS into OSPF, how do those redistributed routes flow through the OSPF domain? 4) Keep an eye out for things like split horizon 5) every step along the way, consider what routers need to see what routes. Watch for situations where necessary routes do not appear. ( you have probably trashed it because of overzealous filtering. ) 5) If problems occur, such as a routing loop, trace back where the problem route came from, and see what can be done to evade the problem. Summary routes work wonders sometimes. So do route-maps and distribute lists. Re-reading this, I see that this topic does not lend itself well to text. I can say with certainty that I now have a very clear vision of redistribution methodology. I've tested it three times now with different labs, and I believe I am solving the redistribution problems more quickly than ever. I hope that I have painted enough of a picture that some of you can fill in the rest. Chuck -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66343t=66306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Practice Labs - Redustribution Strategies [7:66306]
Chuck, Is there any way to get those ASET labs without being a Cisco partner ? Maybe a book containing them ? Thx. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66354t=66306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Practice Labs - Redustribution Strategies [7:66306]
For the past couple of weeks I've been whacking out various CCIE practice labs. I've also been suffering various degrees of euphoria and depression, depending upon how badly I was suckered by the redistribution problems. After a particularly long and frustrating day with the Cisco ASET Lab #1, it suddenly occurred to me that there are many ways to do things, and for some reason, I've been overlooking what may be the best way to deal with redistribution. Those of you who have worked these practice labs know how it goes. You read through the lab, then you start configuring. Step 1 - set up OSPF Step 2 - set up RIP Step 3 - redistribute between OSPF and RIP Step 4 - set up EIGRP Step 5 - redistribute between EIGRP and RIP Step 6 - set up IS-IS Step 7 - redistribute between IS-IS and OSPF Step 8 - scream in anguish as you discover that your routing tables have turned to trash and half your network becomes unreachable. ASET #1 was particularly nasty in how it accomplished Step 8 Which brings me to the topic of this post. CCIE's and folks who've been through the Lab without success - what do you think of this approach: 1) do NOT do any redistribution anyplace until all routing protocols have been configured everywhere. Yes, I know that typically you have a section with several steps, one of which is redistribution. But mark your place and return after the IGPs are up and running and all routes for a particular IGP are where they should be. 2) return to the first redistribution task. Before configuring anything, refer to your diagram ( you DO write out a nice diagram, don't you? ) and ask yourself: after I do one way redistribution, what routes will appear where? 2a) Consider how administrative distance might change things 2b) Follow the redistribution to it's extreme. For example, if you redistribute EIGRP into OSPF, what routers will these routes end up on? Will there be any implications to the routing tables? 3) repeat step 2 for every redistribution point, each time considering the totality of the contents of the redistributed routes. So if you have redistributed IS-IS into OSPF, how do those redistributed routes flow through the OSPF domain? 4) Keep an eye out for things like split horizon 5) every step along the way, consider what routers need to see what routes. Watch for situations where necessary routes do not appear. ( you have probably trashed it because of overzealous filtering. ) 5) If problems occur, such as a routing loop, trace back where the problem route came from, and see what can be done to evade the problem. Summary routes work wonders sometimes. So do route-maps and distribute lists. Re-reading this, I see that this topic does not lend itself well to text. I can say with certainty that I now have a very clear vision of redistribution methodology. I've tested it three times now with different labs, and I believe I am solving the redistribution problems more quickly than ever. I hope that I have painted enough of a picture that some of you can fill in the rest. Chuck -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66306t=66306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More ISDN Practice Labs - You gotta see this one [7:66056]
Another CCIE practice lab. You gotta see this. What's wrong with this picture? Router 1 ( relevant configurations ) interface BRI0 no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer pool-member 1 isdn switch-type basic-ni isdn spid1 0101 isdn spid2 11120101 1112 ppp multilink ! interface Dialer1 ip address 170.100.12.1 255.255.255.240 encapsulation ppp dialer pool 1 dialer string dialer watch-group 1 dialer-group 1 ppp multilink ! access-list 101 deny ospf any any access-list 101 permit ip any any dialer watch-list 1 ip 170.100.124.2 255.255.255.255 dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101 Router 2 ( relevant configurations ) interface BRI0 no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer pool-member 1 isdn switch-type basic-ni isdn spid1 22210101 2221 isdn spid2 0101 ppp multilink ! interface Dialer1 ip address 170.100.12.2 255.255.255.240 encapsulation ppp dialer pool 1 dialer string dialer-group 1 ppp multilink ! interface Serial1.124 multipoint backup delay 10 30 backup interface Dialer1 ip address 170.100.124.2 255.255.255.0 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint ip ospf priority 100 frame-relay interface-dlci 203 frame-relay interface-dlci 204 ! access-list 101 deny ospf any any access-list 101 permit ip any any dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101 hint - one side uses a dialer watch for an interface that is on a frame relay link ( physical interface ) the other side uses a backup interface tracking a frame relay link. So if R1 no longer sees the OSPF route for R2's frame, it tries to dial. So sorry, but since R2 has backup interface in place, which disables the dialer interface, it will not take R1's call. Real well thought out. Wonder how the Proctors would grade this one? Good night, everyone -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66056t=66056 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: More ISDN Practice Labs - You gotta see this one [7:66056]
Chuck, Where did you get this solution lab from ? Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66076t=66056 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PROBLEM WITH ATM LABS, LS100 + 3 72XX ATM ROUTERS!! [7:65026]
Hi All, I've been trying to work on this particular ATM lab and unable to make the routers connect to each other via a LS100 LightStream Switch!! Could anyone with help me to solve this problem? Below is the configurartion, debug output of the three ATM routers and the LS100 switch: Here are the configuration of the 3 ATM routers connect to slot 0, 1, 2 of the LS100: RouterA# show run ! interface ATM5/0 no ip address atm pvc 1 0 5 qsaal no atm ilmi-keepalive ! interface ATM5/0.2 multipoint ip address 138.108.168.1 255.255.255.0 atm nsap-address 47..0001.00 atm arp-server nsap 47..0002.00 ! interface Serial6/0 no ip address shutdown serial restart-delay 0 RouterB# show run interface ATM1/0 no ip address atm pvc 1 0 5 qsaal no atm ilmi-keepalive ! interface ATM1/0.2 multipoint ip address 138.108.168.2 255.255.255.0 atm nsap-address 47..0002.00 atm arp-server self ! RouterC# ! interface ATM1/0 no ip address atm pvc 1 0 5 qsaal no atm ilmi-keepalive ! interface ATM1/0.1 multipoint ip address 138.108.168.3 255.255.255.0 atm nsap-address 47..0003.00 atm arp-server nsap 47..0002.00 ! interface FastEthernet2/0 no ip address shutdown duplex half ! LS10# SHOW ROUTE Destination Type PrimaryVPI Secondary VPI 47 00 00 000100 NSAP * 0 -- - 47 00 00 000200 NSAP * 2 -- - 47 00 00 000300 NSAP * 3 -- - LS10#SHOW ATMSIG Line U/N T303 T308 T309 T310 T313 T316 T317 T322 T398 T399 UNIver VPI 0 Network4 30 90 104 120 6044 143.0 0 1 Network4 30 90 104 120 6044 143.0 0 2 Network4 30 90 104 120 6044 143.0 0 3 Network4 30 90 104 120 6044 143.0 0 Debug output from routerA: RouterA#debug atm sig-all routerA#debug atm sig-all ATM Signalling Events debugging is on ATM Signalling Error debugging is on ATM Signalling IE debugging is on ATM Signalling Api debugging is on routerA#ping 138.108.168.2 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 138.108.168.2, timeout is 2 seconds: 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:0) API - alloc_connection_id 2E 00:42:08: ATMAPI: (c-s): SETUPv2 ci: 0x2E mp: 0 ei: 0x 00:42:08: ATMSIG: Called len 20 00:42:08: ATMSIG: Calling len 20 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:0) build Setup msg, Null(U0) stat e 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:0) API - from sig-client ATM_OWNE R_SMAP 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Input event : Req Setup in Nu ll(U0) 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Output Setup msg(XferAndTx), Null(U0) state 00:42:08: ATMSIG: Called Party Addr: 47..000 2.00 00:42:08: ATMSIG: Calling Party Addr: 47..000 1.00 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Null(U0) - Call Initiated(U1 ) 00:42:08: E164 NOT Converted 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Input event : Rcvd Call Proce eding in Call Initiated(U1) 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Connection Identifier IE: associated sig = 88 vpi = 0 vci = 128 00:42:08: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Call Initiated(U1) - Outgo ing Call Proceeding(U3) 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Input event : Rcvd Release in Outgoing Call Proceeding(U3) 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47)cause = Invalid, location = User 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Outgoing Call Proceeding(U3 ) - Release Indication(U12) 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) API - notifying Release eve nt to client ATM5/0.2 00:42:16: ATMAPI: (cs): RELEASE_COMPv2 ci: 0x2E cause: 0x0 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) API - from sig-client ATM_O WNER_SMAP 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Input event : Req Release C omplete in Release Indication(U12) 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) building cause code - cause = (0x1B)destination out of order, IE_cause = (0x1B)destination out of order, lo cation = User 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Output Release Complete msg , Release Indication(U12) state 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,128 - 0046/00): (vcnum:47) Release Indication(U12) - Dead 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0047/00): (vcnum:0) API - alloc_connection_id 2F 00:42:16: ATMAPI: (c-s): SETUPv2 ci: 0x2F mp: 0 ei: 0x 00:42:16: ATMSIG: Called len 20 00:42:16: ATMSIG: Calling len 20 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0047/00): (vcnum:0) build Setup msg, Null(U0) stat e 00:42:16: ATMSIG(ATM5/0 0,0 - 0047/00):
IDS Labs [7:64304]
Hello Group, Wondering if anyone know a site that rents lab time for Cisco IDS stuff, Sensors, Directors, CSPM. I'd like to run through a couple labs just to get a little more familiar with the software. Thanks John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64304t=64304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Practice Labs [7:63902]
Hey there. I have access to a 65xx,55xx and another layer2. I wish to try my hands on sample labs and practice some stuff. I have already done things like end-to-end vlans. What else can I try. Thanks Sam Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63902t=63902 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Practice Labs [7:63902]
Check out www.fatkid.com They have FREE practice labs you can try on your home lab. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccbootcamp.com (cisco training) Sam wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey there. I have access to a 65xx,55xx and another layer2. I wish to try my hands on sample labs and practice some stuff. I have already done things like end-to-end vlans. What else can I try. Thanks Sam Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63905t=63902 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Practice Labs [7:63902]
mac address security vlan trunking aux vlans private vlans vacls telnet security bpdu guard root guard port fast Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems - Original Message - From: Sam To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Practice Labs [7:63902] Hey there. I have access to a 65xx,55xx and another layer2. I wish to try my hands on sample labs and practice some stuff. I have already done things like end-to-end vlans. What else can I try. Thanks Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63911t=63902 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPLS Labs [7:62049]
Hello People... Do you guys know where I can get some labs to play with MPLS. I got some 7200 routers and some 2651 routers. Thanks...Nabil I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62049t=62049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual labs [7:60700]
i don't recommand the boson network simulation, it's full of bugs.sad stuff, and offers no indepth configuration capabilities, so you can't have fun. the cim's of cisco are OK, a bit more i guess, but the only i don't like is that you are stuck to predefined lab, so you can't have a lot's fun either, but the actual labs are ok, and can help you practice key points of the simulated technologie, i have the iprouting and multiprotocol of the cisco cims. you can practice at r1r2.com it's a 2 router lab with 3 connections ethernet, sync, async, the good part about it is that you don't to sign up for a time slot or what ever, just telnet to it, if a lab is available get in and play, user:cisco password:cisco Amar Network Engineer MCSE, CCNP Leonardo FUK a icrit dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why don't you do this... 1) Organize your thoughts and create an approach concerning things you want to learn and improve. 2) Collect the information you need regarding your next Cisco exam. You may pick up two subjects at once (routing switching). 3) Read the blueprint of your next exam and make sure that you know - theoretically - what each one means and its basic concepts. Would be really nice if you knew the command syntax also. Once finished, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll share my home lab with you. I can't offer you an excellent stuff, even though I don't have a great cisco lab. This is what've got on so far: - 4 Cisco 2501 - 2 Cisco 2502 - 1 Cisco 2523 - 2 Catalyst 2916 with modules supporting ISL/dot1q - 1 Catalyst 1900 With all this you can practice a lot of things, but I will not be able to help you on remote access subjects. I think it's better than nothing. You access it once or twice, prior taking the exam.. so you can play a lot and become familiar with the environment. This will help you for your examination. Do you know what I mean? You play it, online. Other options are www.networkforce.com, www.ccprep.com. But you will have to pay for it. Let me know what you think. Regards, -- Leonardo Furtado Network Engineering and Security Architecture reddyred wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60914t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual labs [7:60700]
Why don't you do this... 1) Organize your thoughts and create an approach concerning things you want to learn and improve. 2) Collect the information you need regarding your next Cisco exam. You may pick up two subjects at once (routing switching). 3) Read the blueprint of your next exam and make sure that you know - theoretically - what each one means and its basic concepts. Would be really nice if you knew the command syntax also. Once finished, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll share my home lab with you. I can't offer you an excellent stuff, even though I don't have a great cisco lab. This is what've got on so far: - 4 Cisco 2501 - 2 Cisco 2502 - 1 Cisco 2523 - 2 Catalyst 2916 with modules supporting ISL/dot1q - 1 Catalyst 1900 With all this you can practice a lot of things, but I will not be able to help you on remote access subjects. I think it's better than nothing. You access it once or twice, prior taking the exam.. so you can play a lot and become familiar with the environment. This will help you for your examination. Do you know what I mean? You play it, online. Other options are www.networkforce.com, www.ccprep.com. But you will have to pay for it. Let me know what you think. Regards, -- Leonardo Furtado Network Engineering and Security Architecture reddyred wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60891t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
virtual labs [7:60700]
Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60700t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual labs [7:60700]
reddyred wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment If you are a Cisco customer,you can contact your Cisco reps, who can give you info about the free labs that Cisco offers. These are internet / web based. For the CCNP level of study, there are quite a few that are helpful. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60705t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: virtual labs [7:60700]
Have you tried the Virtual Labs from Sybex or Cisco Interactive Mentors which cover specific protocols? I have them but have not given them a true beating yet. Just a thought, Mark Hayes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of reddyred Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: virtual labs [7:60700] Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60713t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual labs [7:60700]
You can register on my website (http://www.mymucus.com) for free rack access. There are currently, 7 Routers, a Switch, and a PIX. Should be more than enough for the CCNA. Jarett reddyred wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60718t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual labs [7:60700]
I have used the Sybex virtual trainer, which was OK for Routing but not so helpful for BCRAN. I haven't used the other two subjects yet. You should note that it is designed to accompany the Sybex books, so if you are not buying those then it is less helpful. If you are cash-strapped and want a couple of routers to practise with, then 3000 series are very cheap on eBay. I have seen these running IOS 12.0 2500 images, you'll probably need to upgrade the flash/RAM. If you're unemployed, don't try to pass well, try to pass quickly. Good luck. rgds Marc reddyred wrote: Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60712t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual labs [7:60700]
What are you looking for? Actual online equipment rental or docs with labs? Francisco Sedano Informatica Pronet CCIE student :-) reddyred Enviado por: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/01/2003 16:21 Por favor, responda a reddyred Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Asunto: virtual labs [7:60700] Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs nor equipment Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60749t=60700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccbootcamp vs certzone labs [7:59815]
Hi All, hope noone had to work too long during the xmas break.. Was hoping to get a non-biased opinion(s) on the ccbootcamp labs and certificationzone labs.. was thinking of getting 1 of the 2.. but not both! :-) I know the ccbootcamp labs are quite beefy from what I remember a few years ago, but I'm not sure about the certficationzone labs. Any views would be appreciated. cheers, Mark. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59815t=59815 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Study Materials - including 3550 labs [7:59683]
Appears to be freely available. At least, I found the link after a google search on Bruce Caslow, found a link to the study site, and was able to download these with no problems. Authored by the good folks at netmasters / netcraftsmen, some of whom we know as Caslow, Pavlichenko, and Inghram, good folks all. http://www.netmasterclass.net/site/lib.php Also - don't forget the for-profit folks - NLI / b.o.o.t.c.a.m.p, Lamer Networks, various auctions on you know where, IP Expert, Hello Computers, Gett Labs, and of course Cert Zone, where my own materials for which I was paid are available. Don't forget to take some time for yourselves and for your families and friends these next couple of weeks! Chuck -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59683t=59683 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3550 labs [7:59096]
I've got access to a couple of 3500's for a few weeks, and I wanted to do some intense playing. Does anybody have any good materials or URLs for playing with these? Thanks... The Tick - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59096t=59096 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3550 labs [7:59096]
The cisco config manual for 3550 is good, I can send it to you. -Original Message- From: Jim Tickle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3550 labs [7:59096] I've got access to a couple of 3500's for a few weeks, and I wanted to do some intense playing. Does anybody have any good materials or URLs for playing with these? Thanks... The Tick - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59099t=59096 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3550 labs [7:59123]
Have you seen the sample 3550 lab on Ipexpert.net? That should give you a start. Tony Schaffran Network Analyst CCNP, CCNA, CCDA, NNCSS, NNCDS, CNE, MCSE CCOnlineLabs.com http://www.cconlinelabs.com - Original Message - From: Jim Tickle To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: 3550 labs I've got access to a couple of 3500's for a few weeks, and I wanted to do some intense playing. Does anybody have any good materials or URLs for playing with these? Thanks... The Tick - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59123t=59123 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3550 labs [7:59096]
you can donwload cisco's config manual from CCO, it is best for study!! http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/products/ps648/c1069/ccmigr ation_09186a00800d6a25.pdf Good Lucky softmap - Original Message - From: Jim Tickle To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:54 AM Subject: 3550 labs [7:59096] I've got access to a couple of 3500's for a few weeks, and I wanted to do some intense playing. Does anybody have any good materials or URLs for playing with these? Thanks... The Tick - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59153t=59096 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Virtual Labs [7:58692]
Having just passed the written I have begun practicing for the LAB which i have scheduled for Febuary. I have a practice lab consisting of 2 2621 1 3640 5 mc3810 (fxs,bri,fxo,channelized T1) 1 3550 I was interested if anyone has had success with any of the virtual labs such as skylabs or ccrouters or any others. Why do they at times vary in price so much and is it an accurate enough simulation or the real thing. Thank you for any shared experiences. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58692t=58692 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best practice labs? [7:58649]
What are the best books to buy or places to obtain router labs? I already have the CCIE Lab Practice Kit from Satterlee Hutnik. Are there labs that take you from the basics to more complex scenario's? I want to build a strong foundation and then jump into the CCIE level labs. Thanks, Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58649t=58649 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
I believe that all the VoIP images require 64MB. Though VoFR, VoHDLC, and VoATM are supported w/ 32MB HulaJoe wrote in message news:200211130159.BAA28992;groupstudy.com... Hello All, I just purchased a 3810 to practice some Voice labs. I was hoping someone could answer a quick question for me. The 3810 I'm getting has 32 MB of RAM - Is this enough to run the 3810 as a VoIP GW ? Can someone give me some insight in regards to setting up the 3810 to support VoIP ? Thanks in advance! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both) Folks I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good advice. Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking employment. Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my question. Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released). Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between the exam materials? Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close together)? I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a 3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920 (yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek $$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for the lab exam(s) for any of the above. The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. Thanks Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57451t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Online labs [7:57480]
My online lab is now available. AMILABS online lab is now available.. Please email me for a ZIP file with a copy of the lab manual and some diagrams for your reviewÂ… [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57480t=57480 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Hello All, I just purchased a 3810 to practice some Voice labs. I was hoping someone could answer a quick question for me. The 3810 I'm getting has 32 MB of RAM - Is this enough to run the 3810 as a VoIP GW ? Can someone give me some insight in regards to setting up the 3810 to support VoIP ? Thanks in advance! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both) Folks I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good advice. Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking employment. Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my question. Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released). Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between the exam materials? Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close together)? I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a 3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920 (yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek $$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for the lab exam(s) for any of the above. The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. Thanks Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57333t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
B.J. Wilson wrote: The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. passing the CCIE Written is *nothing*. You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a position to go for a second. Don't put CCIE Written or CCIE candidate on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.* I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I know I dont have a CCIE yet. That isnt the issue. Right now I just cant take the lab exam as I plain cant afford it and my lab is in storage so I cant practice anyway. In fact right now my cisco skills are getting rusty as I havent even had any cisco hands on since July. If you're looking for resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go for some of the CCIP certs instead. Resume boosters arent the issue. I already have CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, CSS1, CIPTSS from cisco and am a CISSP and CCSE. I am trying to keep myself sane by making what productive use I can of a very unwelcome excess of free time right now (unemployment really sucks!!!) In the next few weeks I will probably study for the MPLS and EVODD exams and may perhaps even try for the Packet Telephony exam and IP telephony troubleshooting exam. I could also, as I originally stated try to pass an additional CCIE qualification exam (RS or CS-Voice) or two. I sent the question so I could hopefully receive advice as to whether or not this was a stupid idea and also, to find out what people thought about having multiple lab exams outstanding. I.E. Once I find myself in a position where I can afford to take the lab(s), should I treat them seperately and work towards them one at a time, or try to work towards them all at the same time (on the basis of a lot of common material in the different labs). (Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting CCIE Written on their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing. Hopefully I'm wrong. :-) You are ;-))) Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57036t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57037t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Peter, Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support certification, the material is very helpful for your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of these certification you are using your free time very wisely... Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57039t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Peter, Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support certification, the material is very helpful for your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of these certification you are using your free time very wisely... Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57040t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Persio - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Peter, Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support certification, the material is very helpful for your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of these certification you are using your free time very wisely... Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57043t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57066t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable? Persio - Original Message - From: Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP To: Persio Pucci ; Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57067t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Persio The voice blueprint and test are not available yet. I heard from Cisco that the exam is planned to go into beta this month though. As for the lab, it will only test a common body of knowledge. This is all explained on the CCIE pages on Cisco.com Peter Persio Pucci wrote: Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable? Persio - Original Message - From: Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP To: Persio Pucci ; Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57068t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Persio Pucci wrote: Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Scott from Cisco just wrote: Peter, It's still being slated for the end of this month. -- Scott At 07:12 PM 11/7/2002 +, you wrote: Hey Scott Any word on when the voice exam will go into beta? Thanks Peter Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57070t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Practice ccie labs in NYC? [7:46363]
I seen a guy adverising for a study partner at www.groupstudy.com in the NYC area. He wants someone for CCIE study labs. He has his own lab. Check it out. Sabeen Ishaq wrote in message news:200206121927.PAA28755;groupstudy.com... Hi, I am looking for some cool places in NYC, which have build labs to practice for ccie candidates. I have checked couple of places but all they offer are, classes and some hours for practicing. I don't want to take classes, just want to get hold of a lab and practice hands on. (No virtual labs) I thought to check over groupstudy, since many of you are studying for ccie and may know about a cool lab in nyc. Thanks! Sabeen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57088t=46363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
All, The feedback I got from Cisco about this is as follows Although other Voice certification options are being discussed, the only related exam currently in production is the IP Telephony, which will concentrate on the Enterprise.The IP Telephony exam will begin beta in November. This is one of the various written option for CCIE CS. Keep in mind that lab remains the same regardless of which written you pass for CS and hopefully when you pass nothing points out which written you have manage to pass. HTH From: Persio Pucci Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable? Persio - Original Message - From: Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP To: Persio Pucci ; Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be aCCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57067t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57090t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both) Folks I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good advice. Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking employment. Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my question. Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released). Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between the exam materials? Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close together)? I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a 3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920 (yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek $$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for the lab exam(s) for any of the above. The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. Thanks Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57019t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Hmm what a fascinating filter!!! Concatenate the word router and word ccie with the cc missing if you really need to figure out where else I posted this question :-) Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both) PS. Does anyone know why this list totally mangles my rfc compliant email address whenever I send an message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57021t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is *nothing*. You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a position to go for a second. Don't put CCIE Written or CCIE candidate on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.* The CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that, in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab). If you're looking for resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go for some of the CCIP certs instead. (Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting CCIE Written on their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing. Hopefully I'm wrong. :-) $0.02, BJ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57023t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
I actually did not get that impression from the original post. I think he was just trying to decide if he should study for multiple labs. He did not use CCIE written or anything like that in his sig. stuart -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: B.J. Wilson [mailto:analogkid01;mindspring.com] Gesendet am: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:04 AM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is *nothing*. You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a position to go for a second. Don't put CCIE Written or CCIE candidate on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.* The CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that, in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab). If you're looking for resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go for some of the CCIP certs instead. (Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting CCIE Written on their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing. Hopefully I'm wrong. :-) $0.02, BJ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57033t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where are the good practice labs online? [7:56370]
Hi Folks, I need some feedback on what are the better online practice labs out there (ie Fatkid etc)? My date is coming up soon and I need some more resources that reflect the new format. Thanks in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56370t=56370 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: $1000.00 a Day for the Practise Labs now?? Wh [7:55082]
wow, that's kind of high. with remote rack prices so cheap, what's the point??? thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, BTW: Looks like Cisc has bumped up the fees for the CCIE Practice Labs to $1000.00 per day!! I thought it was something like $250.00 a day before. What's up with Cisco? Q: How much does it cost to use the CCIE Practice Labs? A: Contact the University CCIE Practice Labs for fees, refund and scheduling policies. Cisco CCIE Lab facilities may be scheduled for a cost of $1000 per day. Come'on Cisco.Are you kidding?? For that kind of money, I would attempt the Lab once every month till I pass it?? Anyone ?? MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55082t=55082 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$1000.00 a Day for the Practise Labs now?? What's up Cisco? [7:55021]
Hello, BTW: Looks like Cisc has bumped up the fees for the CCIE Practice Labs to $1000.00 per day!! I thought it was something like $250.00 a day before. What's up with Cisco? Q: How much does it cost to use the CCIE Practice Labs? A: Contact the University CCIE Practice Labs for fees, refund and scheduling policies. Cisco CCIE Lab facilities may be scheduled for a cost of $1000 per day. Come'on Cisco.Are you kidding?? For that kind of money, I would attempt the Lab once every month till I pass it?? Anyone ?? MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55021t=55021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Online Labs [7:52185]
I will be offering an online lab in the next month. It will be competitive if not better then the competition listed. I am offering the following in three 7 hour blocks per day: 2 2620 for voip and multiple eth and serial interface 1 2513 1 2503 1 2504 1 2501 1 4500 1 2509 1 cat 5505 with NFFC II and SUP3 1 cat 3550 with EMI 1 cat 2924 XL en 1 cat 2924 1 blink-2 isdn simulator Async aux port, modem and CSU routing capabilities Token-Ring for those who want to learn some legacy stuff AGS + for extra charge to simulate some larger networks Windows 2k server with sniffer software and Cisco Works and Cisco Secure plus many other applications Linux 7.2 server fully loaded Linux 7.2 router And much more... This lab is not only for Cisco certification but to learn security, hacking, general Linux or Win2k concepts. I provide all access via a vpn kit and terminal services and you have remote reboot capabilities. If you are interested please send me an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be added to trial rollout list for late September. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52260t=52185 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Online Labs [7:52185]
I am in need of providers of online CCIE Labs. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52185t=52185 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Online Labs [7:52185]
I see lots of people selling on-line lab access at That Auction Site ( you know the one I mean ) You may also rent a rack at the following places: www.ccbootcamp.com www.fatkid.com www.ipexpert.net www.gettlabs.com HTH z Rasman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am in need of providers of online CCIE Labs. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52186t=52185 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Practice Labs [7:51766]
Hi all, which practice lab out there is really worth the price tag attached to it? i need ur opinions pls Kale Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51766t=51766 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Practice Labs [7:51766]
Fatkid labs are definitely worth at least what you pay for them www.fatkid.com HTH -- coming soon: www.chuckslongroad.info Olatunde Kalejaiye wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, which practice lab out there is really worth the price tag attached to it? i need ur opinions pls Kale Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51768t=51766 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Practice Labs? [7:50987]
I apologize in advance if this topic frequents the study group, but I was wondering what peoples' opinions are on the different practice labs for sale out there. I have heard good things about the IPEXPERT Lab book, as well as the labs from CCBOOTCAMP. I have been going through the CCIE Practical studies book, as well as reading the Command configuration and reference guides off of TAC, not to mention all of the other books(CASLOW,etc.) Can anyone provide me with any insight or direction? Thanks in advance Jason Viera Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50987t=50987 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
I am not a VOIP expert but this is just an idea based on my other job and one at which I have lots of unplanned experience with. From my experience with running data over analog lines, I would say an analog modem is probably the best option. Modems are extremely sensitive to noise / etc on a analog link. They pick up things that our humans ears cannot. If there is noise you can hear the modem(s) renegotiating to a lower level which means you could use the speed at which the modems connect to judge the quality of the call. If the modem connect speed is say 28K, then you already know there is noise on the line. If the call completes with a 48K connect speed, then you have good voice quality. I say this because our PABX got hit by lightning once, and although the main boards got replaced ... I told the PABX techie, that I could hear a slight noise in the background when I was making calls. The noise was not there before. Of course, he listened and told me it was normal. Then the proof came. Every modem in the company which was connected to PABX extension could not make calls. You could hear the modem renegotiating at least three times before an acceptable transfer rate was set, which was 21Kbps instead of the 48Kbps we were used to. So I use that as a standard to judge line quality. Of course you use the debug commands to see at what speeds the modems are connecting at Just an idea. Manish -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 July 2002 01:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947] Tangled Up in Blue wrote: Maybe this is not what you're asking, but when I test my voip stuff i just call my cell phone. When he's first getting it working with basic FXS ports on a Cisco router, he probably won't have a gateway to the public switched network. So calling a cell phone won't work! ;-) I know there are some debug commands, just can't remember what they are. They tell you if the call works and maybe some quality too Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49008t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
Manish, I think you have solved my problem ...Thanks also to Steven, Priscilla, Tangled up in Blue, Brad and Bernard; I will try your suggestions to. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49031t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
I am about to start studying Voice topics for the CCIE lab How does one test that a call has actually been placed succesffuly when doing remote-labs? Or maybe this is not possible and you actually have to buy the gears to see the stuff working ... I bet you would neeed some type of robot to pickup the phone (just kidding). Thanks, Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48947t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
Pierre-Alex Guanel wrote: I am about to start studying Voice topics for the CCIE lab How does one test that a call has actually been placed succesffuly when doing remote-labs? Or maybe this is not possible and you actually have to buy the gears to see the stuff working ... I bet you would neeed some type of robot to pickup the phone (just kidding). Like an answering machine?! ;-) Seriously, I have heard lab designers discuss that as a serious option. The other option is various debug and show commands, that hopefully someone else remembers Priscilla Thanks, Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48953t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
Hi Alex, Here is what you do: Hook up a modem to the router's voice port. Then hook the serial interface of the modem to the aux interface of that same router / or to another line on the termserver. That way a user can have console access to the modem and will visually see a RING on the screen. HTH Bernard Omrani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947] I am about to start studying Voice topics for the CCIE lab How does one test that a call has actually been placed succesffuly when doing remote-labs? Or maybe this is not possible and you actually have to buy the gears to see the stuff working ... I bet you would neeed some type of robot to pickup the phone (just kidding). Thanks, Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48954t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
That is good ... but does the fact that the modem ring and indication that I have a proper voice link? Could it be that if picked up the phones that I would not be able to hear anything from the other side? And could a simple debug demonstrate that I have a crystal clear voice connection on the other side with no echos, etc Seems to me that I would be missing quite a lot in doing a voice lab other the Internet. Are my assumptions correct? Or am I just paranoid ... Thank you, Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48961t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
Maybe this is not what you're asking, but when I test my voip stuff i just call my cell phone. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48966t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
Here's a hidden command: csim start (number). If the call completes correctly, it will tell you. And the other thing is to do some debugs as someone already wrote. Pierre-Alex Guanel wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That is good ... but does the fact that the modem ring and indication that I have a proper voice link? Could it be that if picked up the phones that I would not be able to hear anything from the other side? And could a simple debug demonstrate that I have a crystal clear voice connection on the other side with no echos, etc Seems to me that I would be missing quite a lot in doing a voice lab other the Internet. Are my assumptions correct? Or am I just paranoid ... Thank you, Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48985t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
Tangled Up in Blue wrote: Maybe this is not what you're asking, but when I test my voip stuff i just call my cell phone. When he's first getting it working with basic FXS ports on a Cisco router, he probably won't have a gateway to the public switched network. So calling a cell phone won't work! ;-) I know there are some debug commands, just can't remember what they are. They tell you if the call works and maybe some quality too Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48972t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice of IP / Frame-Relay and remote labs [7:48947]
You could use modems to make/receive calls, but it's really hard to tell the quality of the line. We have a robot that tests our VoIP for our customers... it's (his) name is Marc Russell! :) thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net Pierre-Alex Guanel wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am about to start studying Voice topics for the CCIE lab How does one test that a call has actually been placed succesffuly when doing remote-labs? Or maybe this is not possible and you actually have to buy the gears to see the stuff working ... I bet you would neeed some type of robot to pickup the phone (just kidding). Thanks, Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48962t=48947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Labs needed [7:48777]
why not do the lab? At 03:27 AM 7/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: I've run out of Labs :o I'm not a dirtbag who's trying to copyright infringe or get something for free. I have paid and done : CCIE BOOT Ccie PRACTICAL STUDIES Routopia Fatkid Doyle, Cisco Press And have played the What If game w/ all of the above. What now? Mentor is out of business. How do I go about obtaining/paying for their scenarios? Help... KPalmer _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48777t=48777 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Practice ccie labs in NYC? [7:46363]
Hi, I am looking for some cool places in NYC, which have build labs to practice for ccie candidates. I have checked couple of places but all they offer are, classes and some hours for practicing. I don't want to take classes, just want to get hold of a lab and practice hands on. (No virtual labs) I thought to check over groupstudy, since many of you are studying for ccie and may know about a cool lab in nyc. Thanks! Sabeen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46363t=46363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Practice ccie labs in NYC? [7:46363]
Does the Penn Plaza Cisco office have a lab? In Ma they have one that you can reserve as long as you have passed the written. Sabeen Ishaq wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am looking for some cool places in NYC, which have build labs to practice for ccie candidates. I have checked couple of places but all they offer are, classes and some hours for practicing. I don't want to take classes, just want to get hold of a lab and practice hands on. (No virtual labs) I thought to check over groupstudy, since many of you are studying for ccie and may know about a cool lab in nyc. Thanks! Sabeen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46370t=46363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPExpert Labs Feedback [7:42867]
Anyone have any feedback on using the study labs from IPExpert? TIA Greg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42867t=42867 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA,CCNP labs in Vancouver,Canada [7:40996]
www.cclabs.com and CCIE RS Their Labs and course is leaded by a CCIE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40996t=40996 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pix Labs ... [7:40801]
Does anybody know of any sites similiar to R1R2.com that allow you to configure a Pix Firewall ??? Or any software similiar to Boson Router Sim that will allow you to configure a Pix ??? Or any other suggestions regarding Pix hands-on training ... Kind regards ... Paul .. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40801t=40801 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pix Labs ... [7:40801]
Paul, Go to Ole Drews Jensen's website: www.routerchief.com, Free Software, and download the PIX QUIZ - PIX command trainer. This is an excellent, free software. This small software will help you master the PIX commands in no time! Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pix Labs ... [7:40801] Does anybody know of any sites similiar to R1R2.com that allow you to configure a Pix Firewall ??? Or any software similiar to Boson Router Sim that will allow you to configure a Pix ??? Or any other suggestions regarding Pix hands-on training ... Kind regards ... Paul .. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40827t=40801 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Remote Labs!! unbelivable rates [7:39381]
Hi Guys, Checkout http://www.itlearn.org/lab_cisco.htm for Cisco Remote labs. Prices are unbelivable. Regards SF Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39381t=39381 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Remote Labs!! unbelivable rates [7:39381]
No they are not ! SF wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Guys, Checkout http://www.itlearn.org/lab_cisco.htm for Cisco Remote labs. Prices are unbelivable. Regards SF Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39385t=39381 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Practice Labs? [7:39260]
Can anyone recommend a set of CCIE practice labs (Network Learning, etc)? I've got my lab tentative scheduled for November, and have built a lab at home to try and get ready for it. I'm also trying to my company to pay for the 3 prep courses by Wave (they're a corporate training partner, so vendor choices are limited). Any advice would be appreciated. TIA Greg Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNP+Sec, CCDP, MCP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39260t=39260 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice Labs? [7:39260]
I compiled a list of lab sites, book and other basic preparation for the lab hints at www.laganiere.net, I hope it helps. Let me know if you have anything to add to the list... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Greg Jones To: Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: CCIE Practice Labs? [7:39260] Can anyone recommend a set of CCIE practice labs (Network Learning, etc)? I've got my lab tentative scheduled for November, and have built a lab at home to try and get ready for it. I'm also trying to my company to pay for the 3 prep courses by Wave (they're a corporate training partner, so vendor choices are limited). Any advice would be appreciated. TIA Greg Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNP+Sec, CCDP, MCP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39279t=39260 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943]
Does anyone know about any free routing labs to confiugreo n your home routers? No simulators, or rack time. I am looking for a free or low priced routing lab practice. I know about fatkid.com. I don't want to pay $300,$650. etc. I am sure there is something out there to help us poor Cisco students. Thanks. Michael Williams wrote: Are you sure that's the workbook for $315? I think this is the workbook you speak of for $494: http://www.ipexpert.net/products/itemdetail.asp?SKU=ip0001 (watch for URL wrap) I'm not sure what that is for $315.. Anyone? Mike W. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38943t=38943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943]
There are tons of sample configs on CCO. All free. -Original Message- From: Tom Brokaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] Does anyone know about any free routing labs to confiugreo n your home routers? No simulators, or rack time. I am looking for a free or low priced routing lab practice. I know about fatkid.com. I don't want to pay $300,$650. etc. I am sure there is something out there to help us poor Cisco students. Thanks. Michael Williams wrote: Are you sure that's the workbook for $315? I think this is the workbook you speak of for $494: http://www.ipexpert.net/products/itemdetail.asp?SKU=ip0001 (watch for URL wrap) I'm not sure what that is for $315.. Anyone? Mike W. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38949t=38943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943]
I haven't broke the code on getting access to CCO. I don't seem to have a qualifying contract or partnership. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] There are tons of sample configs on CCO. All free. -Original Message- From: Tom Brokaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] Does anyone know about any free routing labs to confiugreo n your home routers? No simulators, or rack time. I am looking for a free or low priced routing lab practice. I know about fatkid.com. I don't want to pay $300,$650. etc. I am sure there is something out there to help us poor Cisco students. Thanks. Michael Williams wrote: Are you sure that's the workbook for $315? I think this is the workbook you speak of for $494: http://www.ipexpert.net/products/itemdetail.asp?SKU=ip0001 (watch for URL wrap) I'm not sure what that is for $315.. Anyone? Mike W. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38958t=38943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943]
Go to w w w .cisco.com. From the Home page, under Service Support go to Technical Support Help--Cisco TAC. From the TAC page go to Top Issues. There are all sorts of examples in each of the Issues categories. HTH -Original Message- From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:18 PM To: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] I haven't broke the code on getting access to CCO. I don't seem to have a qualifying contract or partnership. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] There are tons of sample configs on CCO. All free. -Original Message- From: Tom Brokaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] Does anyone know about any free routing labs to confiugreo n your home routers? No simulators, or rack time. I am looking for a free or low priced routing lab practice. I know about fatkid.com. I don't want to pay $300,$650. etc. I am sure there is something out there to help us poor Cisco students. Thanks. Michael Williams wrote: Are you sure that's the workbook for $315? I think this is the workbook you speak of for $494: http://www.ipexpert.net/products/itemdetail.asp?SKU=ip0001 (watch for URL wrap) I'm not sure what that is for $315.. Anyone? Mike W. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38960t=38943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943]
I would suggest the Cisco Academy series of books. The labs are pretty good for practice up to CCNP level. CCIE practice can be found with the All in ONe CCIE Lab Study Guide book. I for one have been translating and testing the semester 5-6 labs to my rental rack.. in other words, you can pick up the semester 5 book, go to my site, rent the rack and get a diagram that maps the rack to the lab in the book and the results will be the same. MikeS www.packetattack.com Daniel Cotts wrote: There are tons of sample configs on CCO. All free. -Original Message- From: Tom Brokaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] Does anyone know about any free routing labs to confiugreo n your home routers? No simulators, or rack time. I am looking for a free or low priced routing lab practice. I know about fatkid.com. I don't want to pay $300,$650. etc. I am sure there is something out there to help us poor Cisco students. Thanks. Michael Williams wrote: Are you sure that's the workbook for $315? I think this is the workbook you speak of for $494: http://www.ipexpert.net/products/itemdetail.asp?SKU=ip0001 (watch for URL wrap) I'm not sure what that is for $315.. Anyone? Mike W. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38972t=38943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943]
Maybe you can construct such a lab. - Original Message - From: Tom Brokaw To: Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Free Home routing moch labs?? [7:38943] Does anyone know about any free routing labs to confiugreo n your home routers? No simulators, or rack time. I am looking for a free or low priced routing lab practice. I know about fatkid.com. I don't want to pay $300,$650. etc. I am sure there is something out there to help us poor Cisco students. Thanks. Michael Williams wrote: Are you sure that's the workbook for $315? I think this is the workbook you speak of for $494: http://www.ipexpert.net/products/itemdetail.asp?SKU=ip0001 (watch for URL wrap) I'm not sure what that is for $315.. Anyone? Mike W. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39007t=38943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheap Remote labs [7:36343]
Hi guys, Check this out for Remote Labs, www.itlearn.org regards SF Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36343t=36343 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Practice Labs [7:35978]
Hi Everyone, I'm triying to practice more to CCIE Lab. I want to rent some remote Lab to practice. What companies offers this services??? Thanks a lot, Emilio Caamaqo CCNA, CCDA, CCNP CCSI Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35978t=35978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice Labs [7:35978]
Fatkid.com https://secure.fatkid.com/pricing.php Emilio wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm triying to practice more to CCIE Lab. I want to rent some remote Lab to practice. What companies offers this services??? Thanks a lot, Emilio Caamaqo CCNA, CCDA, CCNP CCSI _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35991t=35978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice Labs [7:35978]
Also check with your Cisco Rep in your Company. Durring this Eco downturn, you would be suprised what Cisco will let you have access to or do for you. Kevin St.Amour wrote: Fatkid.com https://secure.fatkid.com/pricing.php Emilio wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm triying to practice more to CCIE Lab. I want to rent some remote Lab to practice. What companies offers this services??? Thanks a lot, Emilio Caamaqo CCNA, CCDA, CCNP CCSI _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35992t=35978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Practice Labs [7:35978]
There are many but I have found ccbootcamp to be very good and real challenging hth Dennis Rogell CNE,NNSS,NNSE, CCNP nextiraone Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (954) 846-5128 -Original Message- From: Emilio [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Practice Labs [7:35978] Hi Everyone, I'm triying to practice more to CCIE Lab. I want to rent some remote Lab to practice. What companies offers this services??? Thanks a lot, Emilio Caamaqo CCNA, CCDA, CCNP CCSI Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35986t=35978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice Labs [7:35978]
try www.ccbootcamp.com. I have rented time from them and had no problems. Their racks have everything you need. Emilio wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I'm triying to practice more to CCIE Lab. I want to rent some remote Lab to practice. What companies offers this services??? Thanks a lot, Emilio Caamaqo CCNA, CCDA, CCNP CCSI Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35985t=35978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best labs to prepare for CCIE? [7:35045]
Hello folks, Are there any white papers or books with detailed labs? I would like some complex labs with answers. Any recommendations? I think this would be a great start and hopefully awaken me to things I have not seen in the field. Thanks, Ryan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35045t=35045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best labs to prepare for CCIE? [7:35045]
For free try www.fatkid.com or Commercially in no particular order: www.ipexpert.com www.ccbootcamp.com www.certificationzone.com www.ciscpress.com CCIE Practical Studies Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard Ryn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello folks, Are there any white papers or books with detailed labs? I would like some complex labs with answers. Any recommendations? I think this would be a great start and hopefully awaken me to things I have not seen in the field. Thanks, Ryan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35053t=35045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Tutorials and Cheap Cisco Labs [7:34986]
Hi, Did anyone visit itlearn.org? Looks like a good deal. Regards Sonal Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34986t=34986 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson CCIE Skill Labs?? [7:34779]
i am in the uk and am trying to get my hands on the lab1 book($95)... i will let you all know how i get on From: Jeff D Reply-To: Jeff D To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boson CCIE Skill Labs?? [7:34779] Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:20:56 -0500 I was wondering the same. Let me know if you hear anything. Jeff Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Has anyone had the chance to try out the new Boson CCIE Skill Labs book? The topics covered seem to be pretty good but not sure about the actual content. Boson has always provided excellent learning aids for the other Cisco exams(IMHO) and am sure that this one is also good. Just not sure if I want to shell out the $400.00 bucks right away!! Regards, The URL is : http://www.bosontraining.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34830t=34779 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boson CCIE Skill Labs?? [7:34779]
Hello, Has anyone had the chance to try out the new Boson CCIE Skill Labs book? The topics covered seem to be pretty good but not sure about the actual content. Boson has always provided excellent learning aids for the other Cisco exams(IMHO) and am sure that this one is also good. Just not sure if I want to shell out the $400.00 bucks right away!! Regards, The URL is : http://www.bosontraining.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34779t=34779 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson CCIE Skill Labs?? [7:34779]
I was wondering the same. Let me know if you hear anything. Jeff Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Has anyone had the chance to try out the new Boson CCIE Skill Labs book? The topics covered seem to be pretty good but not sure about the actual content. Boson has always provided excellent learning aids for the other Cisco exams(IMHO) and am sure that this one is also good. Just not sure if I want to shell out the $400.00 bucks right away!! Regards, The URL is : http://www.bosontraining.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34799t=34779 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
