RE: Voice over IP [7:37298]

2002-03-07 Thread Mark Odette II

OK, I'll bite

What's the drawbacks or gotcha's of choosing the 3810 over a 2600 or 3600
router??

In comparison, this is what I came up with so far:

1. No WIC modularity to speak of... you're stuck with DB-60 Serial
interfaces.
2. Only one 10BT interface, so no VLAN routing :(

Is this the ONLY reason why those units are much less expensive than the
1700s, 2600s, or 3600s??  Surely not!

Can you do a "cross-over cable" between a couple of these units on their MFT
T1 cards??  This would be great for VoATM simulations.

As a side note, I didn't find an EOL listing for the MC3810, so I guess that
is a positive.




 waiting patiently for reply input.

Mark

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If you are ebay shopping, you can get a 3810 for cheaper than the 2600's or
3600's.

Use this Ebay search (no quotes)
"+cisco (3810,mc3810) -nokia -singer -att -at&t"

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Greetings all,

What is the minimum equipment I need to setup/test VoIP?  I've a lot
26XX and 36XX routers around here.  Any suggestions would be great.

ThanksNabil




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RE: Voice over IP [7:37298]

2002-03-06 Thread Hire, Ejay

If you are ebay shopping, you can get a 3810 for cheaper than the 2600's or
3600's.

Use this Ebay search (no quotes) 
"+cisco (3810,mc3810) -nokia -singer -att -at&t"

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Greetings all,

What is the minimum equipment I need to setup/test VoIP?  I've a lot
26XX and 36XX routers around here.  Any suggestions would be great.

ThanksNabil




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Re: Voice over IP [7:37298]

2002-03-05 Thread Steven A. Ridder

You can go cheap and get a 1751.  Takes the same card and can allow up to 4
voice calls at once.

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> It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
>
> 2600's and 3600's are great for VoIP. You need an IP Plus feature set
> and then appropriate voice modules based on your needs. An NM-1v or
> NM-2v and some VIC's would get you started.
>
> If you tell us what exactly you are trying to do with VoIP we can
> recommend a more specific hardware choice.
>
> tm
>
> Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP
> Sr. Network Architect
> VoIP Group
> iReadyWorld
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> Greetings all,
>
> What is the minimum equipment I need to setup/test VoIP?  I've a lot
> 26XX and 36XX routers around here.  Any suggestions would be great.
>
> ThanksNabil




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RE: Voice over IP [7:37298]

2002-03-05 Thread Tim Medley

It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

2600's and 3600's are great for VoIP. You need an IP Plus feature set
and then appropriate voice modules based on your needs. An NM-1v or
NM-2v and some VIC's would get you started.

If you tell us what exactly you are trying to do with VoIP we can
recommend a more specific hardware choice.

tm

Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP
Sr. Network Architect
VoIP Group
iReadyWorld

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Greetings all,

What is the minimum equipment I need to setup/test VoIP?  I've a lot
26XX and 36XX routers around here.  Any suggestions would be great.

ThanksNabil




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RE: Voice over IP [7:37298]

2002-03-05 Thread Mark Odette II

Fares-

NM-1V with your choice of FXS, FXO, or E&M VICs.

IOS Plus (12.x(xT) feature set.
32MB RAM/8MB Flash

These are the absolute SW/HW minimums.

Oh yeah, and a little reading time on CCO about configuring VoX. :)

Have fun.

Mark

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Greetings all,

What is the minimum equipment I need to setup/test VoIP?  I've a lot
26XX and 36XX routers around here.  Any suggestions would be great.

ThanksNabil




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Re: Voice over IP [7:37298]

2002-03-05 Thread Patrick Ramsey

2600 is enough actualy Cisco's vg200 is a modified 2600... (that is what
is used as the voip gateway)  That gateway can also function as the call
manager but you lose a lot fo functionallity (it is normaly used as a
back up call manager)  Say your call mnager is across a wan link and the wan
link goes down...the 2600/vg200 will act as a temp call manager until the
wan link comes back up, allowing all local calls.  And if you bring a
separate T into the 2600/vg200 then it can also route outbound calls if the
wan link is down.

If you plan on using a full featured call manager server, then you will need
to contact cisco for a demo.

-Patrick

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2002-03-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings all,

What is the minimum equipment I need to setup/test VoIP?  I've a lot
26XX and 36XX routers around here.  Any suggestions would be great.

ThanksNabil




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Accounting / Authentication for Voice over IP [7:30581]

2001-12-31 Thread Hamid Ali Asgari

Hi group

I am new to VoIP. I have configured two voice gateways in my lab adn
they are working fine. It's a very simple scenario and the calls are
originated from one and terminated on the other one.

Currently, everyone who dials the phone number of the voice ports can
dial a number and the gateways establish a call.

My question is that how can I provide a way of authentocation /
accounting (something like asking for a PIN number)?

Any inputs would be welcome

Thanks is advance,
Hamid

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Re: Help with Voice over IP over ATM [7:25163]

2001-11-04 Thread David F. Severski

On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 11:42:24PM -0500, William Lijewski wrote:
> In the lab I am working on you are to do Voice over IP over ATM SVC's. 
They
> want it so if no one is talking it still sends empty voice packets.  Right
> now if no one is talking you can hear it go dead silent until someone
speeks
> again.  How do you get the empty voice packets to be transmitted so the
line
> is constantly active even if no one is talking?

Sounds like you're looking for the 'no vad' command to disable Voice 
Activity Detection, which is enabled on ATM circuits by default.  UniverCD 
link at
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fvvfax_c/vvfport.htm.

Hope this helps.

David




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Re: Help with Voice over IP over ATM [7:25163]

2001-11-03 Thread Henry D.

You need to have VAD disabled in your dial-peers.

""William Lijewski""  wrote in message
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> I have been looking for what is probably a one line command for about 2
days
> now.
>
> In the lab I am working on you are to do Voice over IP over ATM SVC's.
They
> want it so if no one is talking it still sends empty voice packets.  Right
> now if no one is talking you can hear it go dead silent until someone
speeks
> again.  How do you get the empty voice packets to be transmitted so the
line
> is constantly active even if no one is talking?
>
> I have looked in the Caslow book, searched the Cisco documentation CD, and
> I'm just having no luck.  Any help would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill L.




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Help with Voice over IP over ATM [7:25163]

2001-11-02 Thread William Lijewski

I have been looking for what is probably a one line command for about 2 days
now.

In the lab I am working on you are to do Voice over IP over ATM SVC's.  They
want it so if no one is talking it still sends empty voice packets.  Right
now if no one is talking you can hear it go dead silent until someone speeks
again.  How do you get the empty voice packets to be transmitted so the line
is constantly active even if no one is talking?

I have looked in the Caslow book, searched the Cisco documentation CD, and
I'm just having no luck.  Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Bill L.


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Re: Voice over IP specific [7:21031]

2001-09-26 Thread Cisco Breaker

I have made the config with num-exp command and it worked.

Thanks for the answers.

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> Hi All,
>
> We have a customer that wants a implementation of voice over ip. Their
dial
> plan will be like this.
>
> A-clients --pbx--router--voip--router--pbx--Bclients
>|
>|
>   router
>   |
>PBX
>   |
>   Cclients
>
> Normally if an A client want to reach a client from B, they dial 66 and
from
> PBX or FXS they get a line and dial 76 and reach the corresponding route
> rfrom voip and dial 86 to reach PBX and the last step they dial the
Bclients
> expansion number 801. My question is this, Is it possible to only dial
once
> and reach the corresponding Bclient from A without PLar (cause A client
will
> Cclients too)? I want to appoint   ony one number and make it dial all
> 66,76,86,801 with  commas ofcourse cause there is a waiting time over
PBXs.
>
> Best regards,




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Re: Voice over IP specific [7:21031]

2001-09-26 Thread Patrick Donlon

Looking at what your doing you should be able to dial only once and reach
the client on the other side. From my experience you would never have to
dial an access code at each stage. I've got some sample config's with pots
ports and lots of isdn configs, if you have any more specific questions let
me know,

regards

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> Hi All,
>
> We have a customer that wants a implementation of voice over ip. Their
dial
> plan will be like this.
>
> A-clients --pbx--router--voip--router--pbx--Bclients
>|
>|
>   router
>   |
>PBX
>   |
>   Cclients
>
> Normally if an A client want to reach a client from B, they dial 66 and
from
> PBX or FXS they get a line and dial 76 and reach the corresponding route
> rfrom voip and dial 86 to reach PBX and the last step they dial the
Bclients
> expansion number 801. My question is this, Is it possible to only dial
once
> and reach the corresponding Bclient from A without PLar (cause A client
will
> Cclients too)? I want to appoint   ony one number and make it dial all
> 66,76,86,801 with  commas ofcourse cause there is a waiting time over
PBXs.
>
> Best regards,




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Voice over IP specific [7:21031]

2001-09-25 Thread Cisco Breaker

Hi All,

We have a customer that wants a implementation of voice over ip. Their dial
plan will be like this.

A-clients --pbx--router--voip--router--pbx--Bclients
   |
   |
  router
  |
   PBX
  |
  Cclients

Normally if an A client want to reach a client from B, they dial 66 and from
PBX or FXS they get a line and dial 76 and reach the corresponding route
rfrom voip and dial 86 to reach PBX and the last step they dial the Bclients
expansion number 801. My question is this, Is it possible to only dial once
and reach the corresponding Bclient from A without PLar (cause A client will
Cclients too)? I want to appoint   ony one number and make it dial all
66,76,86,801 with  commas ofcourse cause there is a waiting time over PBXs.

Best regards,




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Voice over IP [7:20371]

2001-09-19 Thread Picciani Francesco Saverio

Hi,

I have a CDN on witch I want to route ip data traffic and ip voice traffic
coming from an ip vioce gateway (a device attached to a PABX and to a LAN on
witch reside the ethernet of the router). The voice need  guaranteed
bandwidth. 
Can someone suggest the best Cisco feature to implement?

Schema:

 > 


Thanks in advance
Francesco





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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Donlon

Thomas I've had a look round CCO and I can't see very much to do with video
apart from marketing spiel. I was thinking that this should work but then I
had of a couple of thoughts, from my experience with voip normally a call to
or from an isdn interface would be a voice call and not a data call. I'm
thinking that the video conferencing equipment accepts only data calls,
maybe it is possible just send the traffic out of the isdn interface as a
data call. Just found some info have a look at this
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/mucvmn/prodlit/ipmcm_ds.htm
this is just an example but it looks like it could be possible, maybe
someone else has done video and can provide some input

cheers



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> Yes,  the camera is H323 supported.  If the module is not the right one,
> what module should I use in this case?
>
>
>
> ""Patrick Donlon""  wrote in message
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> > Thomas does the camera use h323 across the network? if so it should be
> > possible, I'd be interested to here if it works
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
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> > > Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes
again:
> > >
> > > -
> > > video conf. camera
> > > |
> > >   Ethernet0
> > > |
> > >Router
> > > |
> > > VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> > > |
> > >ISDN cloud
> > > |
> > > ISDN video conf. camera
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Sorry I missed my topology:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ISDN video  conf. camera
> > > >
> > > > |
> > > > Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
> > > > cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
> > > >
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > > AT&T MCU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using
> > this
> > > > VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is
> > connected
> > > to
> > > > > the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> > > > module.
> > > > > This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the
> ISP
> > > > > provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is
> > possible
> > > to
> > > > > implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU
> with
> > > > ISDN
> > > > > lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas N.




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-14 Thread Thomas N.

Yes,  the camera is H323 supported.  If the module is not the right one,
what module should I use in this case?



""Patrick Donlon""  wrote in message
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> Thomas does the camera use h323 across the network? if so it should be
> possible, I'd be interested to here if it works
>
> cheers
>
> ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes again:
> >
> > -
> > video conf. camera
> > |
> >   Ethernet0
> > |
> >Router
> > |
> > VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> > |
> >ISDN cloud
> > |
> > ISDN video conf. camera
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Sorry I missed my topology:
> > >
> > >
> > > ISDN video  conf. camera
> > >
> > > |
> > > Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
> > > cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
> > >
> > > |
> > >
> > > AT&T MCU
> > >
> > >
> > > Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using
> this
> > > VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is
> connected
> > to
> > > > the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> > > module.
> > > > This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the
ISP
> > > > provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is
> possible
> > to
> > > > implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU
with
> > > ISDN
> > > > lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
> > > >
> > > > Thomas N.




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Donlon

Thomas does the camera use h323 across the network? if so it should be
possible, I'd be interested to here if it works

cheers

""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
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> Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes again:
>
> -
> video conf. camera
> |
>   Ethernet0
> |
>Router
> |
> VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> |
>ISDN cloud
> |
> ISDN video conf. camera
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Sorry I missed my topology:
> >
> >
> > ISDN video  conf. camera
> >
> > |
> > Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
> > cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
> >
> > |
> >
> > AT&T MCU
> >
> >
> > Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using
this
> > VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is
connected
> to
> > > the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> > module.
> > > This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
> > > provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is
possible
> to
> > > implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with
> > ISDN
> > > lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
> > >
> > > Thomas N.




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-13 Thread Thomas N.

Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes again:

-
video conf. camera
|
  Ethernet0
|
   Router
|
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
|
   ISDN cloud
|
ISDN video conf. camera







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> Sorry I missed my topology:
>
>
> ISDN video  conf. camera
>
> |
> Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
> cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
>
> |
>
> AT&T MCU
>
>
> Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using this
> VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
>
>
>
>
> ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
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> > Hi All,
> >
> > In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is connected
to
> > the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
> module.
> > This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
> > provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is possible
to
> > implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with
> ISDN
> > lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
> >
> > Thomas N.




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-13 Thread Thomas N.

Sorry I missed my topology:


ISDN video  conf. camera

|
Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
cloud---ISDN video conf. camera

|

AT&T MCU


Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using this
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?




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> Hi All,
>
> In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is connected to
> the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
module.
> This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
> provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is possible to
> implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with
ISDN
> lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
>
> Thomas N.




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Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-13 Thread Thomas N.

Hi All,

In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is connected to
the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module.
This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
provider for video conference (say, AT&T).  Do you think it is possible to
implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with ISDN
lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!

Thomas N.




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Re: Voice over IP [7:19590]

2001-09-12 Thread Cisco Breaker

clearly we will route them from eth to wan by frame relay


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> In short yes, once you've packetised the voice you can just route it like
> any other ip packets
>
> cheers Pat
>
>
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a question regarding to Voice over IP. Is it possible to make
voice
> > over IP connections on eth and distributing it by ip over frame relay by
a
> > different vendors router?.
> >
> > Let me explain this scenerio in detail. You have a wide area network
> > connected by a frame relay cloud with  Motorola routers. The main
Motorola
> > router is connected to PBX by 2 E&M ports. And it is the wide area
> > connection by ip over frame relay to the frame relay cloud. We want to
> > connect a cisco 1750 router to ethernet and its fxs port to  PBX of the
> > company. Is it possible to put another 1750 to the other side of the
frame
> > relay cloud and put its FXS to its PBX and make these to areas talk
voice
> > over ip like below figure.
> >
> >   ETH
> >  ---
> >| |
> >| |
> > Eth  Eth
> > Cisco 1750   Mot 6560 s0--FRAME RELAY  and IP--s0 Cisco
> > FXSE&M  CLOUD
> 1750
> > | |
> > FXS
> > | | ---P
> > |
> > |-B
> > Telephone
> > |   X
> >  Telephone
> >
> > Best regards,




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Voice over IP [7:19590]

2001-09-12 Thread Cisco Breaker

Hi all,

I have a question regarding to Voice over IP. Is it possible to make voice
over IP connections on eth and distributing it by ip over frame relay by a
different vendors router?.

Let me explain this scenerio in detail. You have a wide area network
connected by a frame relay cloud with  Motorola routers. The main Motorola
router is connected to PBX by 2 E&M ports. And it is the wide area
connection by ip over frame relay to the frame relay cloud. We want to
connect a cisco 1750 router to ethernet and its fxs port to  PBX of the
company. Is it possible to put another 1750 to the other side of the frame
relay cloud and put its FXS to its PBX and make these to areas talk voice
over ip like below figure.

  ETH
 ---
   | |
   | |
Eth  Eth
Cisco 1750   Mot 6560 s0--FRAME RELAY  and IP--s0 Cisco
FXSE&M  CLOUD  1750
| |
FXS
| | ---P
|
|-B
Telephone
|   X
 Telephone

Best regards,




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Re: Voice over IP [7:19590]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick Donlon

In short yes, once you've packetised the voice you can just route it like
any other ip packets

cheers Pat


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> Hi all,
>
> I have a question regarding to Voice over IP. Is it possible to make voice
> over IP connections on eth and distributing it by ip over frame relay by a
> different vendors router?.
>
> Let me explain this scenerio in detail. You have a wide area network
> connected by a frame relay cloud with  Motorola routers. The main Motorola
> router is connected to PBX by 2 E&M ports. And it is the wide area
> connection by ip over frame relay to the frame relay cloud. We want to
> connect a cisco 1750 router to ethernet and its fxs port to  PBX of the
> company. Is it possible to put another 1750 to the other side of the frame
> relay cloud and put its FXS to its PBX and make these to areas talk voice
> over ip like below figure.
>
>   ETH
>  ---
>| |
>| |
> Eth  Eth
> Cisco 1750   Mot 6560 s0--FRAME RELAY  and IP--s0 Cisco
> FXSE&M  CLOUD
1750
> | |
> FXS
> | | ---P
> |
> |-B
> Telephone
> |   X
>  Telephone
>
> Best regards,




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Re: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Thomas

Wow!  That helps out alot.  Thanks Robert!

Thomas N.


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> Thomas;Without knowing more about your actual network topology the best I
> can do is offer a few pointers, but here goes.384k is generally considered
> the lowest common denominator for acceptable quality professional
> videoconferencing. This was originally based on a 3-Bri h.320 (ISDN)
system.
> If people are not moving around much it is not necessary to send screen
> updates as often in order to maintain a subjectively acceptable
experience.
> It depends on whether your doing a talking head type of thing where
someone
> is sitting at a table as opposed to distance learning with a person moving
> around alot. While Polycom is generally considered the professional's
> choice, VCON http://www.vcon.commakes excellent h.320 and h.323 (IP) based
> videoconferencing systems which include a rate adaptive algorithm which
can
> reduce the rate of updates sent out based upon network congestion. They
also
> have an interactive multicast capability which is unmatched by any other
> vendor as far as I know. I would highly recommend their products.One of
the
> possible solutions to your bandwidth limitations would be to use an h.320
to
> h.323 gateway such as the Accord MCU (for PRI...now owned by Polycom)
which
> will also give you a "Brady Bunch" group view of multiple participants or
> Radvision L2W-323 (for BRI). These would allow you to do your
> videoconferencing over IP within your campus(es) and use ISDN to extend
the
> calls to other sites without impacting your data network as well as adding
> the capability of calling outside of your corporation to anyone else's
h.320
> based system.Of course this is all assuming you were interested in
> videoconferencing. If video streaming is part of your query, you had best
> plan on at least 1.5Mb/sec for an acceptable MPEG1 stream. There are
several
> players, Minerva probably being the best of the breed for encoders,
Optibase
> being another. I get CNBC to the desktop at work via IP multicast. It's
> pretty cool I must say, just make sure you have IGMP snooping, er excuse
me
> CGMP enabled on your switches.As mentioned by others QOS is also important
> whenever you are running any latency sensitive traffic, but especially for
> IP Telephony and Video.HTH> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf> Of> > > Thomas N.> > > Sent:
> Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 PM> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
> Subject: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]> > >> > >> > > Hi All,> > >> > > My
> company is concerning about running> voice/video over IP> > > network.
Our
> WAN> > > is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth> limitation is a big
> problem> to> us.> > > What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement> for
> voice and> > > video traffic?> > > 128k?  Thanks!> > >> > > Thomas N.> > >
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RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Robert Hanley

Thomas;Without knowing more about your actual network topology the best I
can do is offer a few pointers, but here goes.384k is generally considered
the lowest common denominator for acceptable quality professional
videoconferencing. This was originally based on a 3-Bri h.320 (ISDN) system.
If people are not moving around much it is not necessary to send screen
updates as often in order to maintain a subjectively acceptable experience.
It depends on whether your doing a talking head type of thing where someone
is sitting at a table as opposed to distance learning with a person moving
around alot. While Polycom is generally considered the professional's
choice, VCON http://www.vcon.commakes excellent h.320 and h.323 (IP) based
videoconferencing systems which include a rate adaptive algorithm which can
reduce the rate of updates sent out based upon network congestion. They also
have an interactive multicast capability which is unmatched by any other
vendor as far as I know. I would highly recommend their products.One of the
possible solutions to your bandwidth limitations would be to use an h.320 to
h.323 gateway such as the Accord MCU (for PRI...now owned by Polycom) which
will also give you a "Brady Bunch" group view of multiple participants or
Radvision L2W-323 (for BRI). These would allow you to do your
videoconferencing over IP within your campus(es) and use ISDN to extend the
calls to other sites without impacting your data network as well as adding
the capability of calling outside of your corporation to anyone else's h.320
based system.Of course this is all assuming you were interested in
videoconferencing. If video streaming is part of your query, you had best
plan on at least 1.5Mb/sec for an acceptable MPEG1 stream. There are several
players, Minerva probably being the best of the breed for encoders, Optibase
being another. I get CNBC to the desktop at work via IP multicast. It's
pretty cool I must say, just make sure you have IGMP snooping, er excuse me
CGMP enabled on your switches.As mentioned by others QOS is also important
whenever you are running any latency sensitive traffic, but especially for
IP Telephony and Video.HTH> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf> Of> > > Thomas N.> > > Sent:
Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 PM> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
Subject: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]> > >> > >> > > Hi All,> > >> > > My
company is concerning about running> voice/video over IP> > > network.  Our
WAN> > > is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth> limitation is a big
problem> to> us.> > > What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement> for
voice and> > > video traffic?> > > 128k?  Thanks!> > >> > > Thomas N.> > > >
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RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Andras Bellak

Actually we try to avoid netmeeting - our network carries our data
traffic, voice (pbx to pbx and some remote ip hardphones) and video
(polycom units - fx, mp and viavideo). Netmeeting works, and has its
place in the organisation, but can cause headaches for everyday support,
so we only roll out a limited number of systems for specific functions -
remote training mostly.

I should elaborate on the network a touch. Our hq in San Diego is
connected into the MPLS network via a 3-t1 IMA connection, with a 3mbps
CIR. Our other offices range from a full t1 into the MPLS cloud to
256cir/512port. The direct frame connections are 512cir/1024port, but
we're slowing migrating them all over to MPLS (as the service becomes
more and more available).

Glad I could help out.

Andras Bellak
Director, WAN Engineering


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]


Thanks much to Andras and others!  Andras, when you said you had all
units
configured not to run at rate greater than 256k, and the quality is
still OK
or good;  I assumed you had both video and voice traffice over those
PVCs,
such as NetMeeting application?  Again, Thanks alot for all of the info!

Thomas N.


""Andras Bellak""  wrote in message
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> We are currently running a mix of polycom mp and fx units via h.323 on
> our WAN. We have set all the units to not run at any speed greater
than
> 256k. The video quality is great on all of them, even those going into
> questionaable frame networks such as Mexico. Our latency from our
> headquarters in San Diego to the various video systems ranges from
40ms
> to 210ms. Our WAN is composed of IP-enabled Frame links (AT&T's way of
> saying MPLS VPN) with the occasionally frame pvc in place. If you are
> going to depend on the video quality being good, you should look into
> implementing some form of QOS on the network. Most people do this with
> voice having a higher rating through the WAN, but we've found that
> glitches are more easily recognized and complained about on the video
> side.
>
> We are also running voice over the same network, but not the the same
> degree. Our voice system is Lucent based, and simply ties into our
LAN's
> in each office that is connected with Lucent PBX systems. The voice
> quality is decent over the links, at least good cell phone quality,
and
> the latency is minimal. One thing to be concerned about with voice is
> it's high demands for bandwidth per call. The Lucent system uses 64K
per
> connection (which really doesn't measure out quite that high). Using
> analog phones with FXS and FXO cards in cisco routers generates sound
> quality that is at least as good, and lower overhead. But it is more
> difficult to integrate into an existing homogenous network (if you
have
> disparate pbx systems, take a look at the cisco method). I haven't
> worked with the cisco ip phone solutions on my network, but understand
> from colleagues that they work extremely well.
>
> On the video side, try to test a few different systems that meet your
> needs, even trying different systems from different manufacturers.
There
> is often a noticable difference in video quality depending on the
> systems (ie - our polycom fx h.323 systems have far better video
> performance than our polycom mp units with h.323 - but the fx doesn't
> have built in isdn and cost quite a bit more).
>
> Have fun with this if you can - video and voice over ip are great ways
> to wow upper management teams and are fun to play with.
>
> Good luck
>
> Andras Bellak
> Director, WAN Engineering
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Whalen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]
>
>
> Many people agree with the below, that 384k is the minimum for
> reasonable
> live video..
>
> Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> Success = Preparation + Opportunity
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
>
> > As Manager, Voice/Data systems at the law firm I worked at, we
demo'd
> two
> > different Videoconferencing technologies.  I don't remember the
first
> > vendor, but the second we looked at was Polycom.  For both, I had 3
> ISDN
> > lines installed (3 x 128 kbps = 384 kbps).  Use that as a ballpark
> figure
> > for video - if you're going to use specialized videoconferencing
> equipment.
> >
> >
> >   -- Leigh Anne
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Thomas N.

Thanks much to Andras and others!  Andras, when you said you had all units
configured not to run at rate greater than 256k, and the quality is still OK
or good;  I assumed you had both video and voice traffice over those PVCs,
such as NetMeeting application?  Again, Thanks alot for all of the info!

Thomas N.


""Andras Bellak""  wrote in message
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> We are currently running a mix of polycom mp and fx units via h.323 on
> our WAN. We have set all the units to not run at any speed greater than
> 256k. The video quality is great on all of them, even those going into
> questionaable frame networks such as Mexico. Our latency from our
> headquarters in San Diego to the various video systems ranges from 40ms
> to 210ms. Our WAN is composed of IP-enabled Frame links (AT&T's way of
> saying MPLS VPN) with the occasionally frame pvc in place. If you are
> going to depend on the video quality being good, you should look into
> implementing some form of QOS on the network. Most people do this with
> voice having a higher rating through the WAN, but we've found that
> glitches are more easily recognized and complained about on the video
> side.
>
> We are also running voice over the same network, but not the the same
> degree. Our voice system is Lucent based, and simply ties into our LAN's
> in each office that is connected with Lucent PBX systems. The voice
> quality is decent over the links, at least good cell phone quality, and
> the latency is minimal. One thing to be concerned about with voice is
> it's high demands for bandwidth per call. The Lucent system uses 64K per
> connection (which really doesn't measure out quite that high). Using
> analog phones with FXS and FXO cards in cisco routers generates sound
> quality that is at least as good, and lower overhead. But it is more
> difficult to integrate into an existing homogenous network (if you have
> disparate pbx systems, take a look at the cisco method). I haven't
> worked with the cisco ip phone solutions on my network, but understand
> from colleagues that they work extremely well.
>
> On the video side, try to test a few different systems that meet your
> needs, even trying different systems from different manufacturers. There
> is often a noticable difference in video quality depending on the
> systems (ie - our polycom fx h.323 systems have far better video
> performance than our polycom mp units with h.323 - but the fx doesn't
> have built in isdn and cost quite a bit more).
>
> Have fun with this if you can - video and voice over ip are great ways
> to wow upper management teams and are fun to play with.
>
> Good luck
>
> Andras Bellak
> Director, WAN Engineering
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Whalen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]
>
>
> Many people agree with the below, that 384k is the minimum for
> reasonable
> live video..
>
> Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> Success = Preparation + Opportunity
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
>
> > As Manager, Voice/Data systems at the law firm I worked at, we demo'd
> two
> > different Videoconferencing technologies.  I don't remember the first
> > vendor, but the second we looked at was Polycom.  For both, I had 3
> ISDN
> > lines installed (3 x 128 kbps = 384 kbps).  Use that as a ballpark
> figure
> > for video - if you're going to use specialized videoconferencing
> equipment.
> >
> >
> >   -- Leigh Anne
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of
> > > Thomas N.
> > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > My company is concerning about running voice/video over IP
> > > network.  Our WAN
> > > is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth limitation is a big problem
> to
> us.
> > > What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement for voice and
> > > video traffic?
> > > 128k?  Thanks!
> > >
> > > Thomas N.




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RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Andras Bellak

We are currently running a mix of polycom mp and fx units via h.323 on
our WAN. We have set all the units to not run at any speed greater than
256k. The video quality is great on all of them, even those going into
questionaable frame networks such as Mexico. Our latency from our
headquarters in San Diego to the various video systems ranges from 40ms
to 210ms. Our WAN is composed of IP-enabled Frame links (AT&T's way of
saying MPLS VPN) with the occasionally frame pvc in place. If you are
going to depend on the video quality being good, you should look into
implementing some form of QOS on the network. Most people do this with
voice having a higher rating through the WAN, but we've found that
glitches are more easily recognized and complained about on the video
side. 

We are also running voice over the same network, but not the the same
degree. Our voice system is Lucent based, and simply ties into our LAN's
in each office that is connected with Lucent PBX systems. The voice
quality is decent over the links, at least good cell phone quality, and
the latency is minimal. One thing to be concerned about with voice is
it's high demands for bandwidth per call. The Lucent system uses 64K per
connection (which really doesn't measure out quite that high). Using
analog phones with FXS and FXO cards in cisco routers generates sound
quality that is at least as good, and lower overhead. But it is more
difficult to integrate into an existing homogenous network (if you have
disparate pbx systems, take a look at the cisco method). I haven't
worked with the cisco ip phone solutions on my network, but understand
from colleagues that they work extremely well.

On the video side, try to test a few different systems that meet your
needs, even trying different systems from different manufacturers. There
is often a noticable difference in video quality depending on the
systems (ie - our polycom fx h.323 systems have far better video
performance than our polycom mp units with h.323 - but the fx doesn't
have built in isdn and cost quite a bit more). 

Have fun with this if you can - video and voice over ip are great ways
to wow upper management teams and are fun to play with.

Good luck

Andras Bellak
Director, WAN Engineering



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Many people agree with the below, that 384k is the minimum for
reasonable
live video..

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

> As Manager, Voice/Data systems at the law firm I worked at, we demo'd
two
> different Videoconferencing technologies.  I don't remember the first
> vendor, but the second we looked at was Polycom.  For both, I had 3
ISDN
> lines installed (3 x 128 kbps = 384 kbps).  Use that as a ballpark
figure
> for video - if you're going to use specialized videoconferencing
equipment.
>
>
>   -- Leigh Anne
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> > Thomas N.
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > My company is concerning about running voice/video over IP
> > network.  Our WAN
> > is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth limitation is a big problem
to
us.
> > What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement for voice and
> > video traffic?
> > 128k?  Thanks!
> >
> > Thomas N.




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RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Brian Whalen

Many people agree with the below, that 384k is the minimum for reasonable
live video..

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

> As Manager, Voice/Data systems at the law firm I worked at, we demo'd two
> different Videoconferencing technologies.  I don't remember the first
> vendor, but the second we looked at was Polycom.  For both, I had 3 ISDN
> lines installed (3 x 128 kbps = 384 kbps).  Use that as a ballpark figure
> for video - if you're going to use specialized videoconferencing equipment.
>
>
>   -- Leigh Anne
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Thomas N.
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > My company is concerning about running voice/video over IP
> > network.  Our WAN
> > is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth limitation is a big problem to
us.
> > What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement for voice and
> > video traffic?
> > 128k?  Thanks!
> >
> > Thomas N.




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RE: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

As Manager, Voice/Data systems at the law firm I worked at, we demo'd two
different Videoconferencing technologies.  I don't remember the first
vendor, but the second we looked at was Polycom.  For both, I had 3 ISDN
lines installed (3 x 128 kbps = 384 kbps).  Use that as a ballpark figure
for video - if you're going to use specialized videoconferencing equipment.


  -- Leigh Anne

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Thomas N.
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> My company is concerning about running voice/video over IP
> network.  Our WAN
> is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth limitation is a big problem to us.
> What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement for voice and
> video traffic?
> 128k?  Thanks!
>
> Thomas N.




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Video/Voice over IP [7:19351]

2001-09-10 Thread Thomas N.

Hi All,

My company is concerning about running voice/video over IP network.  Our WAN
is running on fractial T1, so bandwidth limitation is a big problem to us.
What will be the mininum bandwidth requirement for voice and video traffic?
128k?  Thanks!

Thomas N.




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Voice over IP Documents and sample configs [7:5341]

2001-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sorry group.  I take it just web links are filtered out of the emails.  Lets
try this again
http://www.geocities.com/trexken_2000/voip.html.  This info was provided to
me by one of the Cisco TAC VOIP techs.

Ken's Web
Page(http://www.geocities.com/trexken_2000)
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   - Mahatma Gandhi




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Re: Voice over IP Documents and sample configs [7:5221]

2001-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ken's Web Page(http://www.geocities.com/trexken_2000)
"There is more to life than increasing its speed."
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Ken's Web Page(http://www.geocities.com/trexken_2000)
"There is more to life than increasing its speed."
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Re: Voice over IP Documents and sample configs [7:5221]

2001-05-21 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Link included  this time :)


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/voice
_c/index.htm


Cisco has some very good resources on their site. I recommend searching CCO.


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This is a good link :
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Voice over IP Documents and sample configs [7:5221]

2001-05-21 Thread Hamid

Hi

Can anybody tell me where I can find some sample configs for VoIP and a good
and complete document for it.

Thanks

Hamid




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RE: Voice over IP [7:4099]

2001-05-11 Thread Edward Gomez

Wayne,

Try Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP by Steve McQuerry. It is a
very good reference book on how to 
configure routers to support voice over X. I would also definately recommend
Integrating Voice and Data 
Networks by Scott Keagy.

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Can anyone recomend a few good Voice over IP books. I have the Cisco CIM
module on VO/IP but would also like a detailed book on setting a config.

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RE: Voice over IP [7:4099]

2001-05-10 Thread Chuck Larrieu

You may want to consider:

Integrating Voice and Data Networks by Scott Keagy ( Cisco Press )

Configuring Cisco Voice Over IP by Elliot Lewis ( Syngress )

Both are very readable. The latter contains a lot of conf information.  I am
not deeply into Keagy's book as yet.

HTH

Chuck

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Voice over IP [7:4099]

2001-05-10 Thread Wayne Gum

Can anyone recomend a few good Voice over IP books. I have the Cisco CIM
module on VO/IP but would also like a detailed book on setting a config.

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Book on Voice over Ip and Voice over Frame Relay

2001-03-27 Thread rajeevbharadwaj

Hi every body,
Can anyone provide me some info on which books are better for Voip and
VoFr.

Thanks and regards

Rajeev Bharadwaj

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Re: Voice Over IP

2000-12-28 Thread Steve Linney

12.0.7T at least, 12.1.2T even better.

Steve
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> Hi everybody,
>
> I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :
>
> We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
> existing data link between our local and remote
> office.
> Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.
>
> The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
> remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.
>
> Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
> running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
> to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?
>
> Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
> successful for the local site but a similar test at
> the remote site was unsuccessful.
> Could that be due to any signalling problems ?
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amit
>
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RE: Voice Over IP

2000-12-28 Thread Gils

Hi, 

  In regard to the IOS versions, although it is not necessary for the
routers to run the same IOS version I have encountered many time handshake
problems in cases like yours and in VPN so it is something that worth
checking.

  Gil

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Sent: ??? ? 28 ? 2000 07:44
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Subject: Voice Over IP


Hi everybody,

I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :

We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
existing data link between our local and remote
office.
Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.

The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.

Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?

Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
successful for the local site but a similar test at
the remote site was unsuccessful.
Could that be due to any signalling problems ?

Thanks & Regards

Amit


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RE: Voice Over IP

2000-12-28 Thread Bosio Stefano

Hi,

until 12.0.5T the codec G729r8 was pre-IETF standard, from 12.0.5T the codec
was standardized and the 2 codec are incompatible (different bit ordering)

you must use the command "codec g729r8 pre-ietf" for interoperability but
there are some negotiation problem (rink back tone for example).

You must consider from 12.0.7T there are many new function very useful
(codec, timing and debugging for example).

My opinion check for 12.1.x because 12.0.7T reached the End of Engeneering
so no more development are planned for this release.

Check for memory.

Stefano


> -Original Message-
> From: Amit Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: giovedì 28 dicembre 2000 06.44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Voice Over IP
> 
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :
> 
> We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
> existing data link between our local and remote
> office.
> Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.
> 
> The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
> remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.
> 
> Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
> running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
> to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?
> 
> Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
> successful for the local site but a similar test at
> the remote site was unsuccessful.
> Could that be due to any signalling problems ?
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> 
> Amit
> 
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RE: Voice Over IP

2000-12-28 Thread Bosio Stefano

Hi,

until 12.0.5T the codec G729r8 was pre-IETF standard, from 12.0.5T the codec
was standardized and the 2 codec are incompatible (different bit ordering)

you must use the command "codec g729r8 pre-ietf" for interoperability but
there are some negotiation problem (rink back tone for example).

You must consider from 12.0.7T there are many new function very useful
(codec, timing and debugging for example).

My opinion check for 12.1.x because 12.0.7T reached the End of Engeneering
so no more development are planned for this release.

Check for memory.

Stefano


> -Original Message-
> From: Amit Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: giovedì 28 dicembre 2000 06.44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Voice Over IP
> 
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :
> 
> We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
> existing data link between our local and remote
> office.
> Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.
> 
> The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
> remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.
> 
> Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
> running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
> to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?
> 
> Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
> successful for the local site but a similar test at
> the remote site was unsuccessful.
> Could that be due to any signalling problems ?
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> 
> Amit
> 
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Re: Voice Over IP

2000-12-27 Thread Elias Aggelidis

See my inlined comments !

Regards

Elias Aggelidis
CCNP, CVoice, Security

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 7:44 AM
Subject: Voice Over IP


> Hi everybody,
>
> I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :
>
> We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
> existing data link between our local and remote
> office.
> Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.
>
> The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
> remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.

Cisco is proposing to use the same IOS in every routers.
>
> Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
> running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
> to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?

FLASH, MEM
>
> Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
> successful for the local site but a similar test at
> the remote site was unsuccessful.
> Could that be due to any signalling problems ?

Check your config !
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amit
>
>
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Voice Over IP

2000-12-27 Thread Amit Gupta

Hi everybody,

I need assistance on the VoIP problem I am facing :

We are planning to have a VoIP setup on the already
existing data link between our local and remote
office.
Both sites have Cisco 3640 routers configured for it.

The router on the local site has IOS 11.3(9)T and the
remote router has 12.0(5)T1 on it.

Is it necessary for the routers at both ends be
running a similar version of IOS for the Voice calls
to be successful. What kind of upgrade is required?

Secondly the loopback test (hairpinning) was
successful for the local site but a similar test at
the remote site was unsuccessful.
Could that be due to any signalling problems ?

Thanks & Regards

Amit


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Voice over IP using the IDAM line

2000-10-19 Thread Sam LI

Is there any one who have experience on configurating Voip in the AS5300
using the IDAM line
IDAM line is some sort of old version of T1.
thanks

Sam Li


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RE: Voice over IP

2000-10-12 Thread Irwin Lazar

I've got a fairly extensive collection of links to VoIP information at
http://www.itprc.com/voice.htm.  There is also a list of book
recommendations on that page.

Irwin

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> Subject: Voice over IP
> 
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good reference for voice over IP?  I 
> am now working
> with VoIP and need to find a good book / document for a 
> "crash" course and
> an ongoing reference.
> 
> P.S. Before anyone gets started on it...  where are there 
> instructions for
> searching the archives since I am sure this has been 
> addressed before and
> apologize for the repetition...
> 
> Doug Guth

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Re: Voice over IP

2000-10-11 Thread John Dill

Doug:

Be sure to get Caputo's book.  It's does a good job of introducing items essential to 
field work with Cisco Voice.  Put his name into the archives and I'm sure you'll see 
other comments.  I find getting to the archives pretty easy from www.groupstudy.com.  
Search the "Professional/Technical" mail list.

Good Luck.

John

>>> "Doug Guth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/11/00 05:18PM >>>
Can anyone recommend a good reference for voice over IP?  I am now working
with VoIP and need to find a good book / document for a "crash" course and
an ongoing reference.

P.S. Before anyone gets started on it...  where are there instructions for
searching the archives since I am sure this has been addressed before and
apologize for the repetition...

Doug Guth



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Voice over IP

2000-10-11 Thread Doug Guth

Can anyone recommend a good reference for voice over IP?  I am now working
with VoIP and need to find a good book / document for a "crash" course and
an ongoing reference.

P.S. Before anyone gets started on it...  where are there instructions for
searching the archives since I am sure this has been addressed before and
apologize for the repetition...

Doug Guth



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Re: Voice over IP

2000-07-27 Thread Marcus Walton

Hi Keith,


I'm not an expert on RSVP but I'll give this a shot...

The reservation of bandwidth using RSVP simply prioritizes RSVP traffic of 
a given flow over all other incoming traffic (note that one RSVP flow can 
be prioritized over another RSVP flow).  Thus, the RSVP traffic will always 
be routed before non-RSVP traffic.  This has the effect of reserving 
bandwidth for RSVP traffic.

Now, what happens if there isn't any incoming traffic on a given RSVP flow 
(i.e. your silence suppression example)?  In the case of an extended gap 
between RSVP flow packets, non-RSVP packets could slip in and get routed 
due to the lack of priority traffic.  Thus, the bandwidth is available to 
other traffic as along as there is no incoming RSVP traffic.

That said, keep in mind that an RSVP session (flow) on a router will 
timeout if:
 1) No RSVP packets in a flow have been received within a specified 
amount of time
 2) No PATH or RESV message has been sent to periodically refresh 
the router's RSVP state machine
When a timeout occurs (timeout intervals are specified in the PATH 
message), the router stops giving priority to RSVP traffic thereby 
releasing the bandwidth reservation.  This is why it is unlikely that you 
would see a large number of non-RSVP packets being routed between two RSVP 
packets of the same flow (the session would probably timeout before this 
could occur).

Hope this helps...


-Marcus

At 04:16 PM 07/26/2000 +0100, keith wood wrote:
>I am currently reading throught the CVoice notes and have just passed the
>section on RSVP.  You can reserve bandwidth with this protocol to give to
>active voice channels for the duration of the call - this much I understand,
>no problem.
>
>What isn't clear in the notes is whether or not the bandwidth is available
>to other traffic if the voice traffic is not using it all - ie: during
>silence suppressed moments.
>
>Anybody know..?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
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Voice over IP

2000-07-26 Thread keith wood

I am currently reading throught the CVoice notes and have just passed the
section on RSVP.  You can reserve bandwidth with this protocol to give to
active voice channels for the duration of the call - this much I understand,
no problem.

What isn't clear in the notes is whether or not the bandwidth is available
to other traffic if the voice traffic is not using it all - ie: during
silence suppressed moments.

Anybody know..?

Thanks.



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Re: Voice Over IP configuration

2000-07-06 Thread harora

Hi Erick,

I have worked with this kind of setup. I used EPABX connectivity. I
connected the cable from EPABX to the voice ports of the router and the
config which I made had worked fine. The config is attached herewith.

(See attached file: cis.txt)

Hope this would help...
Hitesh





Erick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/06/2000 10:40:02 AM

Please respond to Erick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:   Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: harora)
Subject:  Re: Voice Over IP configuration





Send me a copy of your configs. Sounds like you have a
port / dest-pattern mapping mismatch. Are you able to
dial the local phones fine connected to router (if you
have 2 phones plugged into the ports)?
--- Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Erick,
>
> I'm using 11.3(4)T software.
> The problem is when I tried to call extension at
> another side, it always
> busy.
> Do you have working config for this ?
>
> Thanks for help.
>
> Rgds-
> Anton
>
> Erick wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > What is the problem and do you have configs?
> >
> > You will need a vofr dial-peer and a pots
> dial-peer
> > setup, then on the frame DLCI you're using you'll
> need
> > to configure it with traffic shaping. Lastly, what
> ver
> > of IOS?
> >
> > --- Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have problem when configuring VoIP over Frame
> > > Relay.
> > > I have both 3640 Routers with 2 slot VoIP
> modules.
> > > Any body has working configuration about VoIP
> over
> > > Frame Relay ..?
> > >
> > > Thanks for help.
> > >
> > > Antonius Kurniadi

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Re: Voice Over IP configuration

2000-07-05 Thread Erick


Send me a copy of your configs. Sounds like you have a
port / dest-pattern mapping mismatch. Are you able to
dial the local phones fine connected to router (if you
have 2 phones plugged into the ports)?

--- Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Erick,
> 
> I'm using 11.3(4)T software.
> The problem is when I tried to call extension at
> another side, it always
> busy.
> Do you have working config for this ?
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> Rgds-
> Anton
> 
> Erick wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > What is the problem and do you have configs?
> >
> > You will need a vofr dial-peer and a pots
> dial-peer
> > setup, then on the frame DLCI you're using you'll
> need
> > to configure it with traffic shaping. Lastly, what
> ver
> > of IOS?
> >
> > --- Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have problem when configuring VoIP over Frame
> > > Relay.
> > > I have both 3640 Routers with 2 slot VoIP
> modules.
> > > Any body has working configuration about VoIP
> over
> > > Frame Relay ..?
> > >
> > > Thanks for help.
> > >
> > > Antonius Kurniadi


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Re: Voice Over IP configuration

2000-07-05 Thread Antonius Kurniadi

Hi Erick,

I'm using 11.3(4)T software.
The problem is when I tried to call extension at another side, it always
busy.
Do you have working config for this ?

Thanks for help.

Rgds-
Anton

Erick wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What is the problem and do you have configs?
>
> You will need a vofr dial-peer and a pots dial-peer
> setup, then on the frame DLCI you're using you'll need
> to configure it with traffic shaping. Lastly, what ver
> of IOS?
>
> --- Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have problem when configuring VoIP over Frame
> > Relay.
> > I have both 3640 Routers with 2 slot VoIP modules.
> > Any body has working configuration about VoIP over
> > Frame Relay ..?
> >
> > Thanks for help.
> >
> > Antonius Kurniadi
>
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Re: Voice Over IP configuration

2000-07-05 Thread Erick

Hi,

What is the problem and do you have configs?

You will need a vofr dial-peer and a pots dial-peer
setup, then on the frame DLCI you're using you'll need
to configure it with traffic shaping. Lastly, what ver
of IOS?

--- Antonius Kurniadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have problem when configuring VoIP over Frame
> Relay.
> I have both 3640 Routers with 2 slot VoIP modules.
> Any body has working configuration about VoIP over
> Frame Relay ..?
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> Antonius Kurniadi


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Voice Over IP configuration

2000-07-05 Thread Antonius Kurniadi

Hi all,

I have problem when configuring VoIP over Frame Relay.
I have both 3640 Routers with 2 slot VoIP modules.
Any body has working configuration about VoIP over Frame Relay ..?

Thanks for help.

Antonius Kurniadi

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Re: Voice Over IP books etc.

2000-05-21 Thread Dave Gingrich

At 03:35 PM 5/20/00 -0700, Nathan Sharma wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I wanted to take  recommendations to prepare for Voice Over IP stuff for
>CCIELAB test. I am scheduled to take lab next month. Is there anyone who
>would like to trade official Cisco Training book for Voice over IP book ?
>Thanks in advance .

The commercially published info on Voice over IP, is a bit thin. Cisco 
Press has a couple of Multiservice books. By far, the best voice over 
material is on the Doc CD and CCO.  Just do a search on "Configuring Voice 
over IP"


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Re: Voice Over IP books etc.

2000-05-20 Thread Dave

You dont need that much for the CCIE lab, just use CCO and check out the
sample configs,  Voice is only 3 points on the lab and only a few
commands...


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>
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2000-05-20 Thread Nathan Sharma

Hello,

I wanted to take  recommendations to prepare for Voice Over IP stuff for
CCIELAB test. I am scheduled to take lab next month. Is there anyone who
would like to trade official Cisco Training book for Voice over IP book ?
Thanks in advance .




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