CIDR - I was dumb - thanks every one [7:75079]
I think I was over looking something very simple. CLASS-LESS! If I understand things correctly. If I have 10 bits for my host section I have a total of 1024 hosts. What I was stuck on is liner break down dividing subnets in factors of 2. But ( here was my mistake ) by powers of 2, I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right, but I think I got it. I was over thinking the problem! Steve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75079t=75079 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: CIDR - I was dumb - thanks every one [7:75079]
Don't feel bad, I have spent time trying to figure out why no layer 3 connectivity only to realize I was working w/old IOS that did not have no ip classless by default Steven Aiello wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I was over looking something very simple. CLASS-LESS! If I understand things correctly. If I have 10 bits for my host section I have a total of 1024 hosts. What I was stuck on is liner break down dividing subnets in factors of 2. But ( here was my mistake ) by powers of 2, I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right, but I think I got it. I was over thinking the problem! Steve **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75116t=75079 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Thanks Guys for the input (and my choices are!!!) [7:73673]
I appreicate for all the input, I have decided to stick to the following and then watch it unfolde 1) RFC 1771 2)Sam Halabi's book 3)The two Chapters on BGP from Doyles TCP/IP Vol 2 I will be looking at the other material as i believe there is no definate source for knowledge Thanks Again, Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73673t=73673 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Passed BCMSN Thanks to all [7:72598]
Once again, the topics covered here and last minute questions answered by group members have paid off. 2 down, 2 to go. Time to start chewing thru BCRAN. I thought the Switching exam was definately easier than the BSCI test. Only had two things throw me. One was a network diagram that I was supposed to mark as an answer to the question and I could swear that the box in the lower right hand corner said more I hadnd't finished answering the question but wanted to know what more there was so I clicked it..and it moved on to the next question. So, I'm sure I got that wrong. The other issue was questions about 3500XL switches. I don't recall seeing anything in any study material saying that they were included in the test. I've worked with them and done some reading on them so I wasn't totally in the dark, but it freaked me out for a minute. Now it's time for BCRAN.guess I'll start tonight. David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72598t=72598 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Insufficient memory.. Thanks to all [7:70278]
Thanks to all who responded to the query. Will give a shot one by one to see how it goes. Thanks, Rajesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70278t=70278 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Gary [7:62364]
In case anyone didn't hear yet, Gary's gonna be out of the office for another week. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62364t=62364 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks God... [7:56389]
Team, This morning I was able to pass the DQoS test, wow...what a rideThe test is very hard if you don't have the Course Book and the reason is because all the information need for the test is very well put and organized by the course. All the information required for the test is on Cisco's web but is very hard to find it, the test follow the blueprint by the book. I want to give my special thanks to Chuck Larrieu (The Long and Winding Road) for his support. I really recommend this test for those who are in the process of taking the lab. The following link will take you where you can find all the information need for this test except the Course Book (fully recommended). Well now to get back to the books for the CVOICE (another animal) test. A good starting point for the QoS on CCO is the following: DQoS 9E0-601 Cisco AVVID QoS Guide http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/avvidqos/index .htm Cisco IOS QoS Solutions Guide 12.2 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos _c/ http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.html ... http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/intsolns/qossol/qosvoip.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/788/voip/delay-details.html. Juan Blanco The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall . -- Nelson Mandela Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56389t=56389 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks God... [7:56389]
Bien hecho Juan :) Raul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Juan Blanco Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks God... [7:56389] Team, This morning I was able to pass the DQoS test, wow...what a rideThe test is very hard if you don't have the Course Book and the reason is because all the information need for the test is very well put and organized by the course. All the information required for the test is on Cisco's web but is very hard to find it, the test follow the blueprint by the book. I want to give my special thanks to Chuck Larrieu (The Long and Winding Road) for his support. I really recommend this test for those who are in the process of taking the lab. The following link will take you where you can find all the information need for this test except the Course Book (fully recommended). Well now to get back to the books for the CVOICE (another animal) test. A good starting point for the QoS on CCO is the following: DQoS 9E0-601 Cisco AVVID QoS Guide http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/avvidqos/index .htm Cisco IOS QoS Solutions Guide 12.2 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos _c/ http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.html ... http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/intsolns/qossol/qosvoip.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/788/voip/delay-details.html. Juan Blanco The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall . -- Nelson Mandela Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56392t=56389 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks God... [7:56389]
Excellent work... Congratulations!!! --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Thanks God... [7:56389] Team, This morning I was able to pass the DQoS test, wow...what a rideThe test is very hard if you don't have the Course Book and the reason is because all the information need for the test is very well put and organized by the course. All the information required for the test is on Cisco's web but is very hard to find it, the test follow the blueprint by the book. I want to give my special thanks to Chuck Larrieu (The Long and Winding Road) for his support. I really recommend this test for those who are in the process of taking the lab. The following link will take you where you can find all the information need for this test except the Course Book (fully recommended). Well now to get back to the books for the CVOICE (another animal) test. A good starting point for the QoS on CCO is the following: DQoS 9E0-601 Cisco AVVID QoS Guide http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/avvidqos/index .htm Cisco IOS QoS Solutions Guide 12.2 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos _c/ http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.html ... http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/intsolns/qossol/qosvoip.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/788/voip/delay-details.html. Juan Blanco The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall . -- Nelson Mandela Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56400t=56389 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks! Re: IPTel QoS: Classification vs Marking [7:48645]
Thanks very much to Howard, Carl Alain for your time clear explanation. I've included your explanations in my study notes :) Blitz In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... Hi All, Currently I'm preparing for DQoS exam for IPTel. One of the exam topic is: explain the difference between classification and marking. Most of the documentation on CCO I read always joined these 2 words together and didn't state the distinction. Any help will be appreciated. Regards, Blitz Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48783t=48645 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please remove my e-mail from this newsgroup. Thanks. [7:47327]
_ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47327t=47327 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks GOD I passed the written....now the funs [7:40756]
Team, Today I passed the qualification exam, First I would like thank GOD, San Lazaro, my Family and all the members of the Cisco Group Study that have contributed to helping me pass the Written Exam. Today I passed the qualification exam. It was a very difficult exam IMHO, much harder than the CCNP exams and I barely managed a pass score. I was kinda hoping to score in the high 90's at least, but a pass is a pass right? I want to specially thanks to Dennis Laganiere and Brad Ellis for their support and help...Thanks guys you are the best, hopefully one day I will have the pleasure of meeting you. My sources were the following: Caslow second edition NLI's Study Guide for the Written(a must, don't take the test without having this) Token Ring paper by Dennis Laganiere CCIE Prep Kit by QUE Boson exam 3 Cisco Web Site (a must) Well, now the big task, the LAB. Thank you all for your help your insight and the inspiration you gave me. JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40756t=40756 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to GetCert.com. I'm now CCNP and CCDP. [7:31679]
and for all keep up with the back door advertisement. Zahid Kevin King wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I passed 640-025 the day before yesterday, and now I'm both CCNP and CCDP. Thanks to GetCert.com. The practical exams I bought from www.GetCert.com is very useful. Best regards, Kevin King 2002-1-12 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31739t=31679 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks GOD....now the Written.... [7:31742]
Team, I would like thank GOD, San Lazaro, my Family and all the members of the Cisco Group Study that have contributed to helping me pass the CID exam. Which books are the most effective with helping me to pass the CCIE written as well as preparing me for the famous LAB. Thanks Juan Blanco MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP (one day CCIE) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31742t=31742 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks GOD....now the Written.... [7:31742]
pick up the RIF papers that are available free. one is on the groupstudy web site, and was written by Fred Ingham. the other is, I believe, found at the CCPrep web site, and is written by Lou Rossi. Don't lose your CID materials. The CCIE written and the CID are remarkably similar in perspective and approach. best wishes Chuck Juan Blanco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Team, I would like thank GOD, San Lazaro, my Family and all the members of the Cisco Group Study that have contributed to helping me pass the CID exam. Which books are the most effective with helping me to pass the CCIE written as well as preparing me for the famous LAB. Thanks Juan Blanco MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP (one day CCIE) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31751t=31742 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to GetCert.com. I'm now CCNP and CCDP. [7:31679]
Hello, I passed 640-025 the day before yesterday, and now I'm both CCNP and CCDP. Thanks to GetCert.com. The practical exams I bought from www.GetCert.com is very useful. Best regards, Kevin King 2002-1-12 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31679t=31679 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to GetCert.com. I'm now CCNP and CCDP. [7:31679]
I#8217;m surprised they didn#8217;t make you a ccie... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31696t=31679 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to GetCert.com. I'm now CCNP and CCDP. [7:31679]
Congratulations Kevin Keep on Striving!... Those exams seem squirlly and unrealistic which makes a bear to pass!. Kevin King wrote: Hello, I passed 640-025 the day before yesterday, and now I'm both CCNP and CCDP. Thanks to GetCert.com. The practical exams I bought from www.GetCert.com is very useful. Best regards, Kevin King 2002-1-12 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31707t=31679 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks [7:29696]
Everyone, Thanks! Your explanations not only cleared things up for me but also set my mind at ease. Thanks again, Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29696t=29696 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT CCNP questions- thanks [7:29477]
Thank you all :-) Yarie wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all, I would like to take the CIT exam (640 - 506) and I have couple of questions: Does any one knows what is the total amount of questions asked? what is the percentage of Novell IPX and AppleTalk out of it? Thanks, Yaron Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29517t=29477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to you !! [7:29379]
After studying hard for a year under your influence, Groupstudy members, I passed BCRAN, BCMSN, BSCN and finaly CIT. Now, a next step before me, you know. Thanks to you all !! Zdenek Zajac CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29379t=29379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks: Cisco 508-CS [7:29310]
Thanks Router Man and Paul : I can access my 2501 via router 508 right now. Thanks Best Regards Sam Ho CCNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29329t=29310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay help please .. thanks [7:29002]
Turn off your keepalives and see if that works! If it does, we'll discuss why later. If that does not work, then either you have misconfigured your router or the Frame relay switch is misconfigured Could you post your entire config? Telemachus Luu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am having some issues bringing up a 64k frame relay circuit. Wcom seems to think it's a bad csu as they aren't able to loop it. As a result, I did some testing on my end. I enabled inward bound looping on the dsu also. For some reason, the line protocol for the serial interface comes up for about 10 seconds, the comes back down. When I do a shut and then a no shut, again, it comes back up for about 10 seconds and then goes back down. Here's the current config and a sh int ser... LMI enq for send and receive still increment even when line protocol is in down state... If I set the csu/dsu to loopback, shouldn't the line protocol stay in up state forever? If so, what could be the issue here? interface Serial3/3 ip address 10.252.0.1 255.255.0.0 encapsulation frame-relay ! Serial3/3 is up, line protocol is down (looped) Hardware is M4T Internet address is 10.252.0.1/16 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) LMI enq sent 136, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down LMI enq recvd 146, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 LMI DLCI 1023 LMI type is CISCO frame relay DTE FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/4, interface broadcasts 0 Last input 00:00:09, output 00:00:09, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:20:31 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/1/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 150 packets input, 2035 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 1 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 1 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 184 packets output, 2415 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 22 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 36 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up Any help would be appreciated.. thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29300t=29002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay help please .. thanks [7:29002]
it depends on the layer2 protocol and how the router handles it if it sees its own packets coming back. I am using loops often to test a line if it is ok or has any problem. I am not sure how FrameRelay encapsulation behaves when you loop the line but i think it sounds feasible that it will not come to an up/up state. To debug the situation i would consider that the framerelay link consist out of three parts: - the local loop on one side (first accessline to the frame cloud) - the framerelay cloud - the local loop on the other side (second accessline to the fr cloud) to test if the local loops are working fine i would ask the carrier to give you a loop on their side facing in your direction so the signal travels from your router to the providers framerelay location, over the loop and back to your router - without travelling any framerelay related equipment. You can set then a more 'loop-friendly' encapsulation like HDLC on your side and thoroughly test the line with a few long pings to see if any problems occur. If you have no problems with that tests on both of your lines to the frame-relay cloud, let the provider remove the loops and reconfigure your routers to frame relay. You can assume then that your local loops to the FR cloud are running error-free. For more framerelay related debugging i can recommend: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/troubleshooting/ts_fr.htm hth Reinhold On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Telemachus Luu wrote: Hi, I am having some issues bringing up a 64k frame relay circuit. Wcom seems to think it's a bad csu as they aren't able to loop it. As a result, I did some testing on my end. I enabled inward bound looping on the dsu also. For some reason, the line protocol for the serial interface comes up for about 10 seconds, the comes back down. When I do a shut and then a no shut, again, it comes back up for about 10 seconds and then goes back down. Here's the current config and a sh int ser... LMI enq for send and receive still increment even when line protocol is in down state... If I set the csu/dsu to loopback, shouldn't the line protocol stay in up state forever? If so, what could be the issue here? interface Serial3/3 ip address 10.252.0.1 255.255.0.0 encapsulation frame-relay ! Serial3/3 is up, line protocol is down (looped) Hardware is M4T Internet address is 10.252.0.1/16 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) LMI enq sent 136, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down LMI enq recvd 146, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 LMI DLCI 1023 LMI type is CISCO frame relay DTE FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/4, interface broadcasts 0 Last input 00:00:09, output 00:00:09, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:20:31 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/1/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 150 packets input, 2035 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 1 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 1 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 184 packets output, 2415 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 22 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 36 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up Any help would be appreciated.. thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29041t=29002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay help please .. thanks [7:29002]
184 packets output, 2415 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 22 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 36 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up Any help would be appreciated.. thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29054t=29002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frame Relay help please .. thanks [7:29002]
Hi, I am having some issues bringing up a 64k frame relay circuit. Wcom seems to think it's a bad csu as they aren't able to loop it. As a result, I did some testing on my end. I enabled inward bound looping on the dsu also. For some reason, the line protocol for the serial interface comes up for about 10 seconds, the comes back down. When I do a shut and then a no shut, again, it comes back up for about 10 seconds and then goes back down. Here's the current config and a sh int ser... LMI enq for send and receive still increment even when line protocol is in down state... If I set the csu/dsu to loopback, shouldn't the line protocol stay in up state forever? If so, what could be the issue here? interface Serial3/3 ip address 10.252.0.1 255.255.0.0 encapsulation frame-relay ! Serial3/3 is up, line protocol is down (looped) Hardware is M4T Internet address is 10.252.0.1/16 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) LMI enq sent 136, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down LMI enq recvd 146, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 LMI DLCI 1023 LMI type is CISCO frame relay DTE FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/4, interface broadcasts 0 Last input 00:00:09, output 00:00:09, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:20:31 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/1/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 150 packets input, 2035 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 1 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 1 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 184 packets output, 2415 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 22 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 36 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up Any help would be appreciated.. thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29002t=29002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay help please .. thanks [7:29002]
Pls check to your telco service provider, I believe there's a loop on their FR switch. cheers- BL Tan From: Telemachus Luu Reply-To: Telemachus Luu To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Frame Relay help please .. thanks [7:29002] Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:37:28 -0500 Hi, I am having some issues bringing up a 64k frame relay circuit. Wcom seems to think it's a bad csu as they aren't able to loop it. As a result, I did some testing on my end. I enabled inward bound looping on the dsu also. For some reason, the line protocol for the serial interface comes up for about 10 seconds, the comes back down. When I do a shut and then a no shut, again, it comes back up for about 10 seconds and then goes back down. Here's the current config and a sh int ser... LMI enq for send and receive still increment even when line protocol is in down state... If I set the csu/dsu to loopback, shouldn't the line protocol stay in up state forever? If so, what could be the issue here? interface Serial3/3 ip address 10.252.0.1 255.255.0.0 encapsulation frame-relay ! Serial3/3 is up, line protocol is down (looped) Hardware is M4T Internet address is 10.252.0.1/16 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) LMI enq sent 136, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down LMI enq recvd 146, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 LMI DLCI 1023 LMI type is CISCO frame relay DTE FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/4, interface broadcasts 0 Last input 00:00:09, output 00:00:09, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:20:31 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/1/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 150 packets input, 2035 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 1 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 1 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 184 packets output, 2415 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 22 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 36 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up Any help would be appreciated.. thanks _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29014t=29002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Emergency - GOT IT...THANKS! [7:27627]
Got everything straightened out and avoided a potentially very long night. Thanks!!! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27646t=27627 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCNP Thanks To ALL [7:21634]
I ve completed the CCNP in 2 months i ve started on 31st july and ended on 1st October also i make the ccna exam again (new version) Many thanks to all of you who provide valuable informations and guides Reciepe: 1 month vacation from Office CCNP preparation Library from Cisco Press www.cisco.com Mentors and White papers groupstudy.com and finally the RED BULL (special thanks) www.redbull.com Best Regards Have A Good Day!! ;;; Farhan AhmedR CCA, MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE , CCNP Network Engineer Mideast Data Systems Abu Dhabi Uae. ;;; Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or Attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, Conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the Official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor Endorsed by it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21634t=21634 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed Written, Thanks! [7:20079]
Congratulations!!! Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE CCIE Candidate [EMAIL PROTECTED] cassidy smith wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, Thanks so much for your guidence! I completed CCNP/CCDP first. Then I read the Sybex(Lammle) CCIE Study Guide. I used the Boson Tests #1 and #2, and quickly realized I was not ready for some of the ATM questions. I picked up the McGrawHill(Giles) CCIE study guide, and used it and the Cisco Web Site to fill in the blanks. For Token Ring I used the RIF study aid that is free here at the GroupStudy StudyNotes as well as the Rossi Paper at CCPREP. I used some of the free study aids at Bosons site, they have some faster ways to derive your IP access list wildcards and IP summary ranges. Token Ring Rif Links: http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf For summary addressing and wildcards: http://www.boson.com/promo/freestuff.htm#guides I passed with an 83% I did pretty well in all areas except for Performance Management section, if anyone knows what that section's focous was I would appreciate a response. Perhaps the fact that I don't know is indicitive as to why I did not do so well in that area, I had really wanted to hit a 90% :-) If I had it to do over, I would have started with assessing myself with the boson's Having a CCNP/DP gets you about 80% there, I could have saved about 2 weeks if I just found out in the begining that 20% that I needed to focus on. I am off to start studies for the LAB, since I don't know where else to start, I will ask the groupstudy Lab forum moderator if I can join after I schedule my Lab Exam. Thanks again for all the advice. Good Luck to those persuing this crazy certification. :-) Cassidy D. Smith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20190t=20079 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed Written, Thanks! [7:20079]
All, Thanks so much for your guidence! I completed CCNP/CCDP first. Then I read the Sybex(Lammle) CCIE Study Guide. I used the Boson Tests #1 and #2, and quickly realized I was not ready for some of the ATM questions. I picked up the McGrawHill(Giles) CCIE study guide, and used it and the Cisco Web Site to fill in the blanks. For Token Ring I used the RIF study aid that is free here at the GroupStudy StudyNotes as well as the Rossi Paper at CCPREP. I used some of the free study aids at Bosons site, they have some faster ways to derive your IP access list wildcards and IP summary ranges. Token Ring Rif Links: http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf For summary addressing and wildcards: http://www.boson.com/promo/freestuff.htm#guides I passed with an 83% I did pretty well in all areas except for Performance Management section, if anyone knows what that section's focous was I would appreciate a response. Perhaps the fact that I don't know is indicitive as to why I did not do so well in that area, I had really wanted to hit a 90% :-) If I had it to do over, I would have started with assessing myself with the boson's Having a CCNP/DP gets you about 80% there, I could have saved about 2 weeks if I just found out in the begining that 20% that I needed to focus on. I am off to start studies for the LAB, since I don't know where else to start, I will ask the groupstudy Lab forum moderator if I can join after I schedule my Lab Exam. Thanks again for all the advice. Good Luck to those persuing this crazy certification. :-) Cassidy D. Smith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20079t=20079 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks! [7:15769]
CIT was easier for me than BSCN. Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard Ole Drews Jensen wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Once again thanks to the members of this list who have directly and indirectly helped me. I just passed the BSCN this morning with an okay score, and I will now open my CIT book and see what kind of horrors pops out of the first chapter. Have a great weekend, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.RouterChief.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17330t=15769 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15994t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Well done ! -Original Message- From: Johns, John A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 August 2001 13:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15995t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Congratulations I have seen so many 'passed the written' posts - but this is the first 'passed the lab' post i have seen. Excellent work!!! I have my lab in April of '02 - i hope i'll be writing the same thing to this list! Congrats once again! OSN Johns, John A. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16011t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16014t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
for anyone who is interested, I have collected some good advice from CCIE's, and posted it at: www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.htm Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 7:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16026t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: 'Donald B Johnson jr' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Here is a brief list of some of the important processes for me along my journey * I passed the Written in January 2001. * I took one week long class ANEWII back in May 2001. (Very Good, thanks Steve McQuerry) * I read the All in One study Guide, not bad has about 82 basic labs. * I read the CCIE Lab Practice Kit (6 Case Studies) Long scenarios, not all current (AppleTalk, Decnet) * I spent a week at the University of Pittsburgh, in their CCIE Lab. Pretty good, however they don't give you the answers to their labs. * I spent 3 days in my local Cisco office on their CCIE rack, not as beneficial as I had hoped. * I have some test equipment at work, 4 2500's, 2 2600's, took all the equipment home and spent countless hours practicing. * About 3 weeks before my exam, I purchased the IPExpert Workbook, along with about (6) 12 hour blocks over the course of three weeks. That's it in a very small nutshell... Good luck to each of you, I do believe it is a very worthwhile goal... Thanks, John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ System Engineer The Hillman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16043t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Here is a brief list of some of the important processes for me along my journey * I passed the Written in January 2001. * I took one week long class ANEWII back in May 2001. (Very Good, thanks Steve McQuerry) * I read the All in One study Guide, not bad has about 82 basic labs. * I read the CCIE Lab Practice Kit (6 Case Studies) Long scenarios, not all current (AppleTalk, Decnet) * I spent a week at the University of Pittsburgh, in their CCIE Lab. Pretty good, however they don't give you the answers to their labs. * I spent 3 days in my local Cisco office on their CCIE rack, not as beneficial as I had hoped. * I have some test equipment at work, 4 2500's, 2 2600's, took all the equipment home and spent countless hours practicing. * About 3 weeks before my exam, I purchased the IPExpert Workbook, along with about (6) 12 hour blocks over the course of three weeks. That's it in a very small nutshell... Good luck to each of you, I do believe it is a very worthwhile goal... Thanks, John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ System Engineer The Hillman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16033t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Chuck, that's an excellent compilation of lab advice! I notice that most of the esteemed contributors had common threads to offer, which I'll surely heed when my time comes. Are you getting close to taking another stab at the lab soon? I know I'd like to get a 4-digit number... ;-} --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] for anyone who is interested, I have collected some good advice from CCIE's, and posted it at: www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.htm Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 7:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16101t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks! [7:15769]
The Cisco Press Support Exam Certification Guide was excellent as are the Boson tests Good luck. OSN Ole Drews Jensen wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Once again thanks to the members of this list who have directly and indirectly helped me. I just passed the BSCN this morning with an okay score, and I will now open my CIT book and see what kind of horrors pops out of the first chapter. Have a great weekend, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.RouterChief.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15814t=15769 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks people [7:10974]
Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10974t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
You failed a DOS test - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10983t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
Ah! One of the forgotten and ancient arts. DOS not failing that is. Karl - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] You failed a DOS test - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10987t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
You failed a DOS test Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? Or was it the other kind of DOS? - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10988t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
I think we are talking about Disk Operating System... - Original Message - From: Howard C. Berkowitz To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] You failed a DOS test Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? Or was it the other kind of DOS? - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10990t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thanks people [7:10974]
Actually we are talking about Dirty Operating System originally called QDOS, Quick and Dirty Operating System before Tim Patterson sold the rights to Gates and Allen. Jon -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] I think we are talking about Disk Operating System... - Original Message - From: Howard C. Berkowitz To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] You failed a DOS test Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? Or was it the other kind of DOS? - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11013t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
I guess it means being denied of passing. Jenn 7/4/2001 9:37:46 AM, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: You failed a DOS test Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? Or was it the other kind of DOS? - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11014t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
I didn't actually fail dos, but I failed the a+os with a 603. But it feels like I failed a dos test. As I started digging through what I could remember on the test, I got hung up on a couple of issues and mainly io.sys and msdos.sys and what was actually going on in the boot process. Jon Krabbenschmidt has given me a ton of information concerning the boot process and went out of his way to help meThanks Jon...! And Dom.Stocqueler, I appologize for being a little testy,dkjhelklsjflkjal;skj...it happens to me on occasion and usually when I am deeply concentrating on an issue. My sense of humor goes byby === And since I don't care if I get flamed anymore for being non cisco or having a non cisco comment and already having the answer to my question, I will post my original mail that Jon helped me with plus the answer he gave me and a couple of others alsoIt might refresh everyone's memory on something noone really thinks about much anymore, but I just find it so interesting.Maybe it will help someone else. Thank you to the smart people on this site. There were a couple of other very good answers also, but these two cover the gist of what I wanted to know. Jenn === My question: --- I just recently failed my a+ os test and so I am digging again through my book. Now just so you will know the book I am using is course technology and is entitled Enhanced a+guide to Managing and Maintaing Your PC. I also have the a+ book by Michael Myers, but it is not the book I am referring to in this particular scenerio/question. What I am doing is looking up a few specific questions I was unsure of on my test and sometimes I get a little carried away and get too deep which is probable the case here, but here goes. One of the questions was a t/f question and it read: The IO.sys file executes the config.sys. That seems very simple and so I put true for my answer and believed it to be true, but i was not absolutely sure of this, so I started reading. The other day after the test, in reading about the boot process, it says that when the 'dos operating system' is loaded, when the io.sys is finished it turns control over to the msdos.sys and that there is a program 'within the msdos.sys' that executes the config.sys file. The key words I am seeing here is the wordswithin the msdos.sys. Then a couple of pages on further in the book, it is discussing the 95 operating sys and the boot process. It said that io.sys executes the config.sys when booting. Does this mean that the initial boot process is different depending on whether you are booting up dos or a gui/windows type environment? If that is so, when loading dos os, what is the name of the program within msdos.sys that executes the config.sys file? It didn't say. In case you have this book, the first portion is on page 73 in the second paragraph under step 3. This is where it discusses the program with the msdos.sys that exe's the config.sys file. On os-95, this is on page 77, step 5. And if you don't have the book, this is specifically what it says: On page 73 and is referring to dos here: The IO.sys file contains more bios sw. MSDOS.sys contains sw to manage files, run applications sw, and interface with hw. Once these two files are loaded into memory, the boot record program is no longer needed, and control turns to a 'program' stored in msdos.sys. This program looks on the hard drive for a file named CONFIG.sys. CONFIG.sys is the first os file that you, as a user, can change. After config.sys is exectuted, MSDOS.sys looks for another dos file named command.com. This file has three parts: more code to manage i/o, programs for internal dos commands, such as copy and dir, and a short program that looks for another file name AUTOEXEC.bat. Now, is very close to specifically says that when loading dos os that the i/o.sys does not execute the config.sys. It says that a program within msdos.sys does that. Then on page 77 in referring to 95, it says: step 5: Again, just as with dos, io.sys loads. In fact io.sys is areally a small core dos module. io.sys looks for a config.sys file, and if found, the config.sys file executes. step 6: after config.sys is complete, io.sys looks for msdos.sys. The role of msdos.sys in 95 is much different from its role in dos. = My comments on this. If for dos, the msdos.sys has an internal program that executes config.sys and in windows, the io.sys executes the config.sys, how can you answer a question with a true or false answer if the real answer is.it depends on the operating sys being loaded.? correct or not? So now, my question is what is the name of the program in msdos.sys that actually does the executing of the config.sys? Opinions..comments... Sorry this is so long and I also realize this is probably not pertinent to the test in a real sense but this is driving me nuts as I can't find
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
Too bad it is forgotten 7/4/2001 9:19:47 AM, hal9001 wrote: Ah! One of the forgotten and ancient arts. DOS not failing that is. Karl - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] You failed a DOS test - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on testing again in a week or so hopefully. Failing a test is just not fun... Jenn Have a great day!! Jennifer Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11016t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to goup for knowledge [7:10702]
Just passed my BSCN yesterday and wanted to say that reading over the questions and replys has helped me gain that extra knowledge needed to pass the test. As for what questions i got on the test, Without breaking the NDA, I studied hard on the following subects (hint hint) BGP, Policy based routing, OSPF, EIGRP, classful protocols, VLSM, and route summarization and it helped me get a 893. Most of the questions were very well written I was very pleased with the test all around. I'm off to the bcran test in a couple of weeks. Thanks George, Head Janitor, CCNA CCDA Cisco Systems Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10702t=10702 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POD, what is that? [7:10128] - thanks! [7:10140]
Thanks to you Priscilla, and all the many others who has replied to me. Sometimes I feel like Cisco (and all the others for that matter) comes up with too many unnecessary new words, or new meanings for old words. Normally the three letter words with the unknown meaning the first time you see it, is an abreaviation of three words, which makes this word different from normal. With words as POTS for plain old telephone system, I would have thought of POD as pretty old device or power of duplex. Anyway, I am starting to get into a far out word game here, so I think I'll stop before I end up in orbit. Thanks again, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:13 PM To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: POD, what is that? [7:10128] It's not a stupid question. I has me laughing, but not at you. Cisco uses the word pod as a group of routers and switches in a lab or training class. In a training class, each group of students works on one pod. But nobody else uses the word that way!? I just finished writing some information on pods in the protocol analysis world. In that case, a pod is an extra little thingie (technical term) that helps the analyzer get on the network. With full-duplex links, for example, if you don't want to break the link and put in a shared hub for attaching the analyzer, you can get a so-called pod that leaves the link at full-duplex traffic and buffers traffic before sending it to the analyzer. These pods are costly. Priscilla At 02:35 PM 6/27/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: This might seem like a stupid question, but sometimes having english as my 2nd language, makes it more difficult for me to understand what the writer is trying to tell me. I am in the middle of my BSCN book, and are now seeing the word POD showing up several times. It tells me that each POD has a number of routers, and there are a certain amount of POD's. Reading the explanation at http://www.dictionary.com gave me NO answers to this one, and the closest thing I can guess my self to is that POD's are kind of departments or subnets, unless the Prince Of Darkness has been involved with Cisco networks lately :-) Thanks for any replies to this one. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10140t=10140 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POD, what is that? [7:10128] - thanks! [7:10144]
The editor should have caught it. I haven't seen the book, but if it really uses the word pod to mean a group of routers without any explanation that this is a special Cisco training use of the word, that's really bad. Editors waste a lot of time doing things like changing 10Mbps to 10Mbytes (seriously) instead of doing what they should be doing. ;-) Priscilla At 02:11 PM 6/27/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: Thanks to you Priscilla, and all the many others who has replied to me. Sometimes I feel like Cisco (and all the others for that matter) comes up with too many unnecessary new words, or new meanings for old words. Normally the three letter words with the unknown meaning the first time you see it, is an abreaviation of three words, which makes this word different from normal. With words as POTS for plain old telephone system, I would have thought of POD as pretty old device or power of duplex. Anyway, I am starting to get into a far out word game here, so I think I'll stop before I end up in orbit. Thanks again, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:13 PM To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: POD, what is that? [7:10128] It's not a stupid question. I has me laughing, but not at you. Cisco uses the word pod as a group of routers and switches in a lab or training class. In a training class, each group of students works on one pod. But nobody else uses the word that way!? I just finished writing some information on pods in the protocol analysis world. In that case, a pod is an extra little thingie (technical term) that helps the analyzer get on the network. With full-duplex links, for example, if you don't want to break the link and put in a shared hub for attaching the analyzer, you can get a so-called pod that leaves the link at full-duplex traffic and buffers traffic before sending it to the analyzer. These pods are costly. Priscilla At 02:35 PM 6/27/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: This might seem like a stupid question, but sometimes having english as my 2nd language, makes it more difficult for me to understand what the writer is trying to tell me. I am in the middle of my BSCN book, and are now seeing the word POD showing up several times. It tells me that each POD has a number of routers, and there are a certain amount of POD's. Reading the explanation at http://www.dictionary.com gave me NO answers to this one, and the closest thing I can guess my self to is that POD's are kind of departments or subnets, unless the Prince Of Darkness has been involved with Cisco networks lately :-) Thanks for any replies to this one. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10144t=10144 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Paul (was Homepage) [7:4005]
Thanks Paul, I am responsible for our network here, and are doing my best to keep our virus protection up-to-date, with the newest software version and automated updates. Our system will block the Homepage virus, but I wanted to thank you for protecting the list too. A bunch of the members do most likely not have any protection on their system, and they might not even know that you just saved them from this stupid Homepage virus. One day, someone might send a virus out on this list that our software does not know about yet, so it's nice to know that you're checking the list before it goes out to us. Thanks again, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Stefano Andrello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Homepage [7:3993] Hi! You've got to see this page! It's really cool ;O) [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of homepage.HTML.vbs] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4005t=4005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks Paul (was Homepage) [7:4005]
Here.Here. Thank You, Don Johnson Engineering Adelphia Communications Corp. P# 814-260-3259 office P# 814-274-9391 lab F# 814-260-3227 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This email is composed of 82% post consumer recycled data bits --- - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 7:12 AM Subject: Thanks Paul (was Homepage) [7:4005] Thanks Paul, I am responsible for our network here, and are doing my best to keep our virus protection up-to-date, with the newest software version and automated updates. Our system will block the Homepage virus, but I wanted to thank you for protecting the list too. A bunch of the members do most likely not have any protection on their system, and they might not even know that you just saved them from this stupid Homepage virus. One day, someone might send a virus out on this list that our software does not know about yet, so it's nice to know that you're checking the list before it goes out to us. Thanks again, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Stefano Andrello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Homepage [7:3993] Hi! You've got to see this page! It's really cool ;O) [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of homepage.HTML.vbs] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4015t=4005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay backup issue...(thanks) [7:3686]
Another possibility... If they are using a dv routing protocol such as RIP and every now and then they push alot of traffic across frame, perhaps some routing updates are not making it across causing the route to go away and the router to use floating/alternate route over ISDN. I've seen this happen with RIP with heavy traffic. Hope this helps... Erick --- Mark Z. wrote: Thanks for the help E. I have a feeling that it might be a backup load issue that I'll have to fix. Can't give you much info because I just found out I'm going to this client tomorrow so I'll be able to digest it all then. I'll definitely be bringing this with me in my head...it's appreciated friend, thanks, Mark Z. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Mark Z. ; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] ahhh, I'll give you a free answer anyway! ;-) Without making any assumptions except that the Frame Relay interface is configured with a backup-interface statement that's pointed to a dialer, and that all the routing is working okay, and that the dialer has a good dialer-list, then the config would look similar to: interface serial0/1 encapsulation frame-relay backup interface dialer1 no backup load no backup delay interface dialer1 then the only thing that would bring the backup into play is the serial going down/down momentarily. If there IS a backup load statement on serial, then bandwidth percentage over the first parameter of that command would initiate the dialer. Adjust it higher or remove it. If there's no backup interface command on the serial interface, then a floating static route is probably initiating the DDR. If an IGP is used over the Frame Relay network then a route flap on the default route would also start the dialing sequence. Let's see... is there a link for you? nope, can't find one that's appropriate. -e- - Original Message - From: Mark Z. To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] Hi Guys, Been a while since I've written to the list (guess that's kind of a good thing). Fairly simple question here: Lets say there is a company with a FR network with a hub/spoke topology. When data is sent from a site, alot of times the backup link kicks up, even though the primary never went down. I remember this type of scenario in my readings but forget what the possibilities are. The simplest answer would be that they are oversubscribing their access on the line and the backup's kicking up. Or the line is just bad...but I doubt that. What are some possible scenarios that would cause this issue. I'm not asking for free answers to this but I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction in terms of reading up on this. Thanks guys...good to be back. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3753t=3686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay backup issue...(thanks) [7:3686]
What might a resolution be for this or could you point me to where I can find this? Would I have to allocate more bandwidth? Mark Z. - Original Message - From: Erick B. To: Mark Z. ; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Frame Relay backup issue...(thanks) [7:3686] Another possibility... If they are using a dv routing protocol such as RIP and every now and then they push alot of traffic across frame, perhaps some routing updates are not making it across causing the route to go away and the router to use floating/alternate route over ISDN. I've seen this happen with RIP with heavy traffic. Hope this helps... Erick --- Mark Z. wrote: Thanks for the help E. I have a feeling that it might be a backup load issue that I'll have to fix. Can't give you much info because I just found out I'm going to this client tomorrow so I'll be able to digest it all then. I'll definitely be bringing this with me in my head...it's appreciated friend, thanks, Mark Z. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Mark Z. ; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] ahhh, I'll give you a free answer anyway! ;-) Without making any assumptions except that the Frame Relay interface is configured with a backup-interface statement that's pointed to a dialer, and that all the routing is working okay, and that the dialer has a good dialer-list, then the config would look similar to: interface serial0/1 encapsulation frame-relay backup interface dialer1 no backup load no backup delay interface dialer1 then the only thing that would bring the backup into play is the serial going down/down momentarily. If there IS a backup load statement on serial, then bandwidth percentage over the first parameter of that command would initiate the dialer. Adjust it higher or remove it. If there's no backup interface command on the serial interface, then a floating static route is probably initiating the DDR. If an IGP is used over the Frame Relay network then a route flap on the default route would also start the dialing sequence. Let's see... is there a link for you? nope, can't find one that's appropriate. -e- - Original Message - From: Mark Z. To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] Hi Guys, Been a while since I've written to the list (guess that's kind of a good thing). Fairly simple question here: Lets say there is a company with a FR network with a hub/spoke topology. When data is sent from a site, alot of times the backup link kicks up, even though the primary never went down. I remember this type of scenario in my readings but forget what the possibilities are. The simplest answer would be that they are oversubscribing their access on the line and the backup's kicking up. Or the line is just bad...but I doubt that. What are some possible scenarios that would cause this issue. I'm not asking for free answers to this but I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction in terms of reading up on this. Thanks guys...good to be back. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3783t=3686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay backup issue...(thanks) [7:3686]
As others have said, you need to find out if they are using the backup interface commands or floating statics, etc. If they are using backup interface then the ISDN will be in standby mode until the load is reached if they have a backup load command also configured. If they are using backup interface with frame relay then you may also want to look into frame-relay end-to-end keepalives (12.0(5)T feature) which will make the backup link kick in more reliably when a failure occurs. But for the possibility I mentioned, the solution is to use another routing protocol that doesn't constantly send updates such as OSPF, EIGRP, static routes, etc. EIGRP will only use up to 50% of bandwidth leaving 50% for data. This doesn't mean EIGRP eats up 50% always - just if the network has alot of routes during the update/convergence process. --- Mark Z. wrote: What might a resolution be for this or could you point me to where I can find this? Would I have to allocate more bandwidth? Mark Z. - Original Message - From: Erick B. To: Mark Z. ; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Frame Relay backup issue...(thanks) [7:3686] Another possibility... If they are using a dv routing protocol such as RIP and every now and then they push alot of traffic across frame, perhaps some routing updates are not making it across causing the route to go away and the router to use floating/alternate route over ISDN. I've seen this happen with RIP with heavy traffic. Hope this helps... Erick --- Mark Z. wrote: Thanks for the help E. I have a feeling that it might be a backup load issue that I'll have to fix. Can't give you much info because I just found out I'm going to this client tomorrow so I'll be able to digest it all then. I'll definitely be bringing this with me in my head...it's appreciated friend, thanks, Mark Z. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Mark Z. ; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] ahhh, I'll give you a free answer anyway! ;-) Without making any assumptions except that the Frame Relay interface is configured with a backup-interface statement that's pointed to a dialer, and that all the routing is working okay, and that the dialer has a good dialer-list, then the config would look similar to: interface serial0/1 encapsulation frame-relay backup interface dialer1 no backup load no backup delay interface dialer1 then the only thing that would bring the backup into play is the serial going down/down momentarily. If there IS a backup load statement on serial, then bandwidth percentage over the first parameter of that command would initiate the dialer. Adjust it higher or remove it. If there's no backup interface command on the serial interface, then a floating static route is probably initiating the DDR. If an IGP is used over the Frame Relay network then a route flap on the default route would also start the dialing sequence. Let's see... is there a link for you? nope, can't find one that's appropriate. -e- - Original Message - From: Mark Z. To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] Hi Guys, Been a while since I've written to the list (guess that's kind of a good thing). Fairly simple question here: Lets say there is a company with a FR network with a hub/spoke topology. When data is sent from a site, alot of times the backup link kicks up, even though the primary never went down. I remember this type of scenario in my readings but forget what the possibilities are. The simplest answer would be that they are oversubscribing their access on the line and the backup's kicking up. Or the line is just bad...but I doubt that. What are some possible scenarios that would cause this issue. I'm not asking for free answers to this but I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction in terms of reading up on this. Thanks guys...good to be back. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3822t=3686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame Relay backup issue...(thanks) [7:3686]
Thanks for the help E. I have a feeling that it might be a backup load issue that I'll have to fix. Can't give you much info because I just found out I'm going to this client tomorrow so I'll be able to digest it all then. I'll definitely be bringing this with me in my head...it's appreciated friend, thanks, Mark Z. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Mark Z. ; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] ahhh, I'll give you a free answer anyway! ;-) Without making any assumptions except that the Frame Relay interface is configured with a backup-interface statement that's pointed to a dialer, and that all the routing is working okay, and that the dialer has a good dialer-list, then the config would look similar to: interface serial0/1 encapsulation frame-relay backup interface dialer1 no backup load no backup delay interface dialer1 then the only thing that would bring the backup into play is the serial going down/down momentarily. If there IS a backup load statement on serial, then bandwidth percentage over the first parameter of that command would initiate the dialer. Adjust it higher or remove it. If there's no backup interface command on the serial interface, then a floating static route is probably initiating the DDR. If an IGP is used over the Frame Relay network then a route flap on the default route would also start the dialing sequence. Let's see... is there a link for you? nope, can't find one that's appropriate. -e- - Original Message - From: Mark Z. To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Frame Relay backup issue... [7:3686] Hi Guys, Been a while since I've written to the list (guess that's kind of a good thing). Fairly simple question here: Lets say there is a company with a FR network with a hub/spoke topology. When data is sent from a site, alot of times the backup link kicks up, even though the primary never went down. I remember this type of scenario in my readings but forget what the possibilities are. The simplest answer would be that they are oversubscribing their access on the line and the backup's kicking up. Or the line is just bad...but I doubt that. What are some possible scenarios that would cause this issue. I'm not asking for free answers to this but I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction in terms of reading up on this. Thanks guys...good to be back. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3704t=3686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks....Re: [RE: Too many broadcasts [7:453]
Chuck Larrieu wrote: Broadcasts are not necessarily bad. How do you suppose ARP works? Not to mention all the things that make life under windows so enjoyable? Such as network browsing? Do not be so hasty. Understand first. How many servers? How many pc's? all on one flat network? No VLANs or inter-vlan routing? Chuck Once worked in a brokerage firm where during market hours 90% of my traffic was broadcast - and a good thing, too! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Infotech Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Too many broadcasts [7:453] Dear Group, I have a small query: Is it advisable to disable broadcast on all the ports of switches. I have 3 catalyst series 6509/5500/5505 in my network running all the WINNT servers 4.0 with all win98/win95 as clients. With the help of CWSI I have observed that many a times the broadcast increases very much I experience lot of response delay in my network. can I use the command: switch (enable)# set port broadcast 0% Will this put any impact on my network like nodes won't be able to talk to server or problem in finding the servers. I have also created VLAN's in my network to limit the broadcasts. Should I doit on all the ports... many thanks in advance HP Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3022t=453 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks....Re: [Re: Inter vlan routing [7:308]
Ping wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - make sure the ip helper is set up on both interfaves to each vlan. also add ip helper to your wins serverif you have one Infotech wrote: Group Pls help me with this config:- cat 4k switch---cat6509 vlan 1 Vlan2 NT PDC 1NT PDC 2 USERx USERy I have a small setup of 3 catalyst switches. CAT6509 main switch is having 2 SUP module (one for redundancy 2 MSFC card for routing purpose. There are 2 cat4003 switches installed at 2 diff floors both are part of diff vlan's - VLAN1 VLAN2. My users are facing problem when they try to access opposite side vlan when actually sitting in one vlan. they sometimes not able to login. The error they get is domain server not available also does not get IP address from DHCP server. But they can login to local domain which is part of local VLAN. This problem is only faced by users having laptop (IBM). Does anybody faced this problem ever. On both of my servers NT 2 way trust relationship is established so that users can login to any domain. I have also specified ip helper-address in my main 6509 MSFC card. The switches are connected via gigabit uplink ports. It is not login id problem because I am able to login to both the server when I physically go to opposite vlan managed to login to both the server. help appreciated... regds HP Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3024t=308 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]
Hi The PIX 6.0 version is suppose to be released on May 11th. Enjoy -Original Message- From: Dropped Packet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2714t=1780 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]
Pix 6.0 is in beta at the min. I would think its going to be 2-3 months but dont hold me to it Dropped Packet cc: Sent by: Subject: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780] nobody@groupstudy. com 24/04/01 22:39 Please respond to Dropped Packet _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1844t=1780 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]
I was told yesterday by TAC that it would be second week of May. Dropped Packet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1869t=1780 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]
So add a week and looks for it the third week of May ;-) -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Alex Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was told yesterday by TAC that it would be second week of May. Dropped Packet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1988t=1780 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]
(slipping into movie trivia mode) As long as it is after Star Wars Day, and that its installation doesn't take Seven Days in May. So add a week and looks for it the third week of May ;-) -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Alex Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was told yesterday by TAC that it would be second week of May. Dropped Packet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1992t=1780 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]
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Thanks [7:1478]
Hello people, I would like thanks all you who help me on the way for cert. Yesterday I got my CCNA with a score 913. My study material was the CCNA Preparation guide by Wendell Odom and CCO, I think this two are the essencial material for test studing. For all that will try STUDY, STUDY and be carefull with the details so, the test will be funny! Again, thanks a lot and good luck for all. leonardo Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1478t=1478 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks Everybody!! [7:440]
C O N G R A T S ! BSCN Killer ! Keyur. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam Hickey Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks Everybody!! [7:440] Killed the BSCN today! - 908 "To BCRAN, or Not to BCRAN, That is the question" Adam Hickey CCNA, (working on the CCNP) [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=536t=440 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks Everybody!! [7:440]
Congrats! Heather Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=542t=440 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Everybody!! [7:440]
Killed the BSCN today! - 908 "To BCRAN, or Not to BCRAN, That is the question" Adam Hickey CCNA, (working on the CCNP) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=440t=440 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
I want to thank everyone for your insights and suggestions. I guess I did not mean to come across as complaining too much. I really had high hopes for this class and maybe I overprepared for the course because I wanted to get a lot out of it. I had already read the Cisco BSCN course book as well as was 3/4 of the way through Doyle's book before my class started. I know they have to cover a lot of the basics but I just thought one day on RIP was a little much. I will take Priscilla's and Pam's suggestion and write a letter to Global Knowledge and let them know about my experience. Maybe they will let me audit the course at a later date. I still plan on attempting the test in April after some more review. I have a small home lab so I may be able to simulate some of the BGP stuff at home. Anyways, I did not realize that you could find out about the instructor's by calling Global directly. I registered online and they don't give much information there. I will remember this for the future. Also, our instructor never mentioned you could get a refund or reschedule during the first day. But I will bring this up in the letter to Global Knowledge. Thanks everyone and this is a great list with lots of knowledgeable people on it! Sincerely, Heather Buri CSC Technology Services - Houston Phone: (713)-961-8592 Fax:(713)-961-8249 Mobile: Alpha Page: Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd Suite 500 Houston, TX 77056 -Original Message- From: Pamela Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant... Yipe. I just now noticed this thread, and it breaks my heart to hear stories like this. Global Knowledge classes are guaranteed. I'm not sure Heather could get her money back inasmuch as she did sit the entire class, but I am certain they will let her sit the class again with a more experienced instructor. Hey, I'm teaching BSCN in Arlington, VA for Global Knowledge the week of April 23 . . . not scheduled for any Texas trips any time soon. For future reference, Global Knowledge WILL refund your money or reschedule you if you return your materials to the instructor by the end of the first day. Instructors are supposed to emphasize that during the introductory remarks. When you schedule the class, talk to the customer service people and ask them about the instructor. The best questions to ask are, "how long has this person been a Cisco-certified instructor," and "how many times has this person taught this class." The instructor schedules are published about a month in advance of the classes. I hope you won't get a bad impression of all Global Knowledge instructors because of this one. I have had the distinct pleasure of auditing BSCN, CATM and OSPF/BGP classes since joining Global Knowledge, and the instructors in each case were outstanding in every way, but beyond outstanding in terms of technical knowledge. And I'm a tough critic, believe me. For example, how about having CATM taught by someone who participated in the development of the protocols as a member of the ATM Forum working groups? Or BGP taught by someone whose consulting practice focuses on designing networks for national ISPs. And of course, the groupstudy.com founder, Paul Borghese, is a Global Knowledge instructor. ;-) Pamela On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: At 05:05 AM 3/20/01, Circusnuts wrote: No Way Priscilla... "wr" is all it takes when hammering across the Hyper Term window ;-) I agree- that class sounds like a bummer. With you time in the field, what have you heard about refunds or complaints in cases such as this ??? I say she should go for it. Most training partners are very concerned with customer satisfaction and try their best to offer high-quality classes. My guess is that her instructor was new. That happens. (It can be extremely difficult to teach a new class, but that's not her problem ;-) If they won't give her a refund, they might at least let her attend again for free. I realize it can be hard to get away again and possibly spend more travel money, but it's better than nothing. Priscilla Phil - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant... Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You could ask for your money back... BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more intuitive. Not. ;-) Priscilla At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote: Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not know what he was talking about. I thought 12.1 was still the most recent version but then again, I have not been o
RE: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
Congratulations!!! -Original Message- From: Louie Belt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon, March 19, 2001 8:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!! I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
Louie, Congratulations! How about posting an NDA-compliant story of your experience? Craig At 11:28 PM 3/18/2001 -0600, you wrote: I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
yowsers! way to go Louie!! I hope to feel your joy some day soon. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Louie Belt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 March, 2001 00:28 Subject: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!! I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
Congratulations!! -Original Message- From: Louie Belt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!! I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
Well done Lou. - Original Message - From: Louie Belt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!! I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
Congrats.. whow, back to the books again -Original Message- From: Louie Belt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 6:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!! I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed routing - THANKS!
Brad, Congratulations ! What materials did you use to study? I'm taking this course in April and will get additional materials to study for the exam. Jay. Brad Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I just wanted to say thanks to all the posters on this list. I've mostly been a lurker on this list, but the knowledge gained from those who do post helped me pass BSCN with a 931. This test was incredibly more difficult than both the CCNA and BCMSN tests. I thought for sure I failed that thing! take care, brad --- Brad Beck Network Engineer Macromedia, Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the answers regarding computer networking degree
I would like to thank all who responded to my question. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
passed routing - THANKS!
Hi Everyone, I just wanted to say thanks to all the posters on this list. I've mostly been a lurker on this list, but the knowledge gained from those who do post helped me pass BSCN with a 931. This test was incredibly more difficult than both the CCNA and BCMSN tests. I thought for sure I failed that thing! take care, brad --- Brad Beck Network Engineer Macromedia, Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the Archives (was to be-E0 line protocol down)
Thank you for the archives. I was just playing with my new 2501 and was having a problem with the line protocol being down. Looked through my books, looked on Cisco's site, couldn't find the answer (I'm sure it's on Cisco's site I just couldn't find it). Wrote a message asking for help, but before sending, I remembered the archives. Can't ask for help without trying there, can I? Searched on 'line protocol down' and found my answer in about the fourth message I viewed. 'no keepalives'. Doh! So this message is just a thank you and a reminder to check the archives before posting for help, the answer may already be in there. Matt Wehland _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks
Hello Everyone, I'll be leaving the list now. Maybe be back when I am more motivated. Just note to everyone that while I did learn a lot here, the most valuable thing I learned was to look it up myself before asking for help. Good Luck and Don't forget the blueberries. Larry Averitt CCNA/WANNABACCIE _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!!!
I passed Switching on Friday and can now call myself a CCNP. Many, many thanks to all those who responded to my questions over the last months. Special thanks to those "gurus" who regularly provide answers and clarification to the toughest questions. Nathan Miller CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good News and Thanks
First the news, last evening, I passed :) the CCIE written qualification exam (80/100). I am keen on getting started with preparation for the lab exam. Fortunately, my employer has invested in lab equipment and one of my co-worker/lab-buddy is also a CCIE hopeful. Any advice would be appreciated. Are there web links for practice lab scenarios? Many thanks to all the folks on this list as I have been getting a wealth of knowledge and insight on wide range of topics which are discussed here. I will continue to follow and hopefully be in a position to contribute. Priscilla, Howard, John Neiberger and other top talkers... I admire you guys for your knowledge and willingness to share it. Keep it up. Cheers, Akbar Kara _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks
Guys, I would be taking the Remote Access network exam in a few weeks time, I would be grateful if you can reconmmend good books for this exam Cheers Kerry Network Engineer _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks
Follow the CiscoKing link below and select Remote Access. Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Ikpasa, Kerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:45 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks Importance: High Guys, I would be taking the Remote Access network exam in a few weeks time, I would be grateful if you can reconmmend good books for this exam Cheers Kerry Network Engineer _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks
Kerry, Search the groupstudy history, someone just asked the same question less than a week ago. Anyways I liked McGraw Hill BCRAN book. I said BCRAN not BCSN. (Aparently the McGraw Hill BCSN really sucks and everyone rants about it I just wanted to further clarify I liked the McGraw Hill BCRAN I never read their BCSN I took the ACRC, so I don't know if that one is any good or not, but I did like their BCRAN? McGraw Hill's BCRAN is basically the Ciscopress BCRAN book, but easier to read) Brian From: "Ikpasa, Kerry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Ikpasa, Kerry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:45:27 - Guys, I would be taking the Remote Access network exam in a few weeks time, I would be grateful if you can reconmmend good books for this exam Cheers Kerry Network Engineer _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks: Switching 2.0
I simply wanted to say thanks to those who have helped me pass my Switching 2.0 last Saturday, but the e-mail I wrote (last Saturday) must contain something that are not allowed through the filter, because I have tried to send it many times now, and even Jennifer Cribbs has been nice enough to try to send it for me too, without any luck. Anyway(s), thanks, and if anyone needs good advise for this test, please follow my CiscoKing link below, and click on the exam. Thanks, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks: Switching 2.0
Good job Ole!! Jenn = Original Message From Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I simply wanted to say thanks to those who have helped me pass my Switching 2.0 last Saturday, but the e-mail I wrote (last Saturday) must contain something that are not allowed through the filter, because I have tried to send it many times now, and even Jennifer Cribbs has been nice enough to try to send it for me too, without any luck. Anyway(s), thanks, and if anyone needs good advise for this test, please follow my CiscoKing link below, and click on the exam. Thanks, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a Good Day!! Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks: Switching 2.0
Ole, It probably contained the word "NOSOB" (spelt backwards) Try spelling it backwards to beat the filter "NOSOB" Larry --- Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good job Ole!! Jenn = Original Message From Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I simply wanted to say thanks to those who have helped me pass my Switching 2.0 last Saturday, but the e-mail I wrote (last Saturday) must contain something that are not allowed through the filter, because I have tried to send it many times now, and even Jennifer Cribbs has been nice enough to try to send it for me too, without any luck. Anyway(s), thanks, and if anyone needs good advise for this test, please follow my CiscoKing link below, and click on the exam. Thanks, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a Good Day!! Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = "Wear a smile and have friends; wear a scowl and have wrinkles." - George Eliot "the greatest glory is not in never falling, but rising up each time we fall." "The greatest man is not he who does not fall but he who falls and rises again to win" __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Jennifer and another simple questions!
Thanks for your heartful reply! Think u will help me a lot many times. :) Well another simple question are here 1. Difference between 'reset' and 'reload' command! 2. In uBR 924, there are some led and DSNR is one of them. Is it Digital Signal to Noise Ratio? When checking SNR in IOS, the smaller numbers (including minus figures) are the better performancer than bigger ones? 3. When uBR 924 couldn't give IPs to the connected LANs (not because boot problems but somewhat problems unknown), someone said this as 'Ranging problem'. Is it correct? 4. When you use 'show stac'? WowI think I am getting better because of you all. Thanks for letting me asking on! Have a nice day! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Thanks to all of you on the list for your many contributions, study related and otherwise. I have learned much from this list. Not just commands and configs but also theory and attitudes towards both newer and older technologies. A special thanks to Chuck, Priscilla, Leigh Anne and Howard. My bookshelves at work and home are filling up fast. Thanks also to the others that always seem to lab things up much faster than I get around to doing. I look forward to next year as I finish my CCNP, move on to the DP and whatever else may come up. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks!
thanks Duck - Original Message - From: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! http://www.pbg.mcgraw-hill.com/computing/updates/giles.html This will give you all the updates to the former book (ISBN 0-07-913728-8) you'll need. Happy downloading! Aderion - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! do you have the url for the errata duck - Original Message - From: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! I would beg to differ and agree with Brian. The content doesn't match half of what is on the market today for the CCIE study guides. In addition, there is the errata that's still available by McGraw-Hill. Combined with what one would consider 'perfect' studying material as one should use while pursuing your CCIE, because one book doesn't prepare you for every case, you cannot go wrong at this price. We've used it and it has assisted three of our study members to pass the written CCIE exam. Please give it a rest, there are no 'perfect' books that doesn't contain some errors. Best regards, A. Brewer President, MACG Metro Atlanta Cisco Group - Original Message - From: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:18 AM Subject: RE: Good amazon deal This is not a good deal at all. Its the 1998 edition, that edition had more errors than the recent presidential elections. I don't think its worth the $10. My 2 cents. Nabil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good amazon deal Amazon has Roosevelt Giles CCIE Study Guide for $10.00 right now, just goto clearence items, computers, and then search the page for "CCIE". Not a bad deal at all Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP+ATM, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks!
I'll add to that as I just cursed $103 (including international shipping) on my credit card for over $300 worth of books. Cheers and here's to a great New Century in 2001. Karl - Original Message - From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Aderion Brewer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! thanks Duck - Original Message - From: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! http://www.pbg.mcgraw-hill.com/computing/updates/giles.html This will give you all the updates to the former book (ISBN 0-07-913728-8) you'll need. Happy downloading! Aderion - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! do you have the url for the errata duck - Original Message - From: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! I would beg to differ and agree with Brian. The content doesn't match half of what is on the market today for the CCIE study guides. In addition, there is the errata that's still available by McGraw-Hill. Combined with what one would consider 'perfect' studying material as one should use while pursuing your CCIE, because one book doesn't prepare you for every case, you cannot go wrong at this price. We've used it and it has assisted three of our study members to pass the written CCIE exam. Please give it a rest, there are no 'perfect' books that doesn't contain some errors. Best regards, A. Brewer President, MACG Metro Atlanta Cisco Group - Original Message - From: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:18 AM Subject: RE: Good amazon deal This is not a good deal at all. Its the 1998 edition, that edition had more errors than the recent presidential elections. I don't think its worth the $10. My 2 cents. Nabil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good amazon deal Amazon has Roosevelt Giles CCIE Study Guide for $10.00 right now, just goto clearence items, computers, and then search the page for "CCIE". Not a bad deal at all Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP+ATM, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks!
I would beg to differ and agree with Brian. The content doesn't match half of what is on the market today for the CCIE study guides. In addition, there is the errata that's still available by McGraw-Hill. Combined with what one would consider 'perfect' studying material as one should use while pursuing your CCIE, because one book doesn't prepare you for every case, you cannot go wrong at this price. We've used it and it has assisted three of our study members to pass the written CCIE exam. Please give it a rest, there are no 'perfect' books that doesn't contain some errors. Best regards, A. Brewer President, MACG Metro Atlanta Cisco Group - Original Message - From: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:18 AM Subject: RE: Good amazon deal This is not a good deal at all. Its the 1998 edition, that edition had more errors than the recent presidential elections. I don't think its worth the $10. My 2 cents. Nabil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good amazon deal Amazon has Roosevelt Giles CCIE Study Guide for $10.00 right now, just goto clearence items, computers, and then search the page for "CCIE". Not a bad deal at all Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP+ATM, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks!
http://www.pbg.mcgraw-hill.com/computing/updates/giles.html This will give you all the updates to the former book (ISBN 0-07-913728-8) you'll need. Happy downloading! Aderion - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! do you have the url for the errata duck - Original Message - From: Aderion Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Good amazon deal-Thanks! I would beg to differ and agree with Brian. The content doesn't match half of what is on the market today for the CCIE study guides. In addition, there is the errata that's still available by McGraw-Hill. Combined with what one would consider 'perfect' studying material as one should use while pursuing your CCIE, because one book doesn't prepare you for every case, you cannot go wrong at this price. We've used it and it has assisted three of our study members to pass the written CCIE exam. Please give it a rest, there are no 'perfect' books that doesn't contain some errors. Best regards, A. Brewer President, MACG Metro Atlanta Cisco Group - Original Message - From: Nabil Fares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Brian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:18 AM Subject: RE: Good amazon deal This is not a good deal at all. Its the 1998 edition, that edition had more errors than the recent presidential elections. I don't think its worth the $10. My 2 cents. Nabil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good amazon deal Amazon has Roosevelt Giles CCIE Study Guide for $10.00 right now, just goto clearence items, computers, and then search the page for "CCIE". Not a bad deal at all Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP+ATM, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks
Hi Group, Thanks for your replies, Merry Cristmas and Happy new year. Regards, Karthi _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks chuck!!!
you have to be involved with cabling to understand the concept of punch down blocksit's the location where the cable wires connect...some times they are small plastic blocks with different colorswhen you scrip a cat5 cable open you see different color wires...they correspond to the blocks for connections.you also have a tool called a punch down tool used to insert the wires into the block...you are punching the wires down...'punch-down'. you, bradley, are more than right about terminology...there are too many in this great universe and 'we' must clarify them..and help others to understand what we meanfor example ASP has many new meanings... and please do not be afraid to ask any question...chuck larrieu has help me to configure ipx on a cisco router...he looked at my configuration and found the answer even when cisco tac had no ideadoes that mean that they are not qualified...no...it means that we have some very qualified people on this list who are more than willling to help! we cannot and must not close our eyes to sharing knowledge for the development of all man-kind and future network engineers thank all of you and keep up the good work. lawrence a sculark mba/ma, ccna,cnx-a,mcp,cna [phd in progress] From: "Bradley J. Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is a CSU/DSU? Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:14:15 -0500 Received: from [63.104.50.75] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBC0CA2BD009F40042A1B3F68324B0E2017; Fri Dec 22 05:32:14 2000 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA24858;Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:30:55 -0500 Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:24:58 -0500 Received: (from listserver@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24208GroupStudy Mailer; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:24:57 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226])by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24187GroupStudy Mailer; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:24:56 -0500 Received: from bwilson (user-2ive2kj.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.10.147])by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13529for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:17:32 -0500 (EST) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 05:33:06 2000 Message-ID: 009701c06c19$16932c60$ca01010a@bwilson References: 91vml1$id9$[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Folks, is it really necessary to pounce on someone for asking an occasional "simple" question? Okay, so CSU/DSUs are basic networking gear. But guess what: *none* of the CCNA material I studied ever went into any great detail on what exactly this thing was or did, and coming from the technical training side of the house never dealt with one until very recently. Other examples: I have no idea what a "punch-down block" or a "patch panel" is. Maybe I've dealt with them before and would know if someone said "*That* is a patch panel," but the fact is that most of the CC** materials only focus on the routers and switches, and not so much on the peripheral yet essential devices. So, in other words, back off when someone asks a question you think is "beneath" you or this group. Just don't answer if you don't want to. But there are lots of valid, basic questions out there that yes, even CCNP/IE candidates would like answers to. It would be a shame if they felt they weren't "allowed" to ask those questions here. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson Who, despite being a CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT and CTT, does not know what a punch-down block is. Sue me. - Original Message - From: netlinesys Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 7:55 AM Subject: re: what is a CSU/DSU? Zhiping, If u know the basic of networking , u can answer this question !!?? I found it difficult for CCNP candidate to ask this question. - Original Message - From: "Zhiping Li" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:37 PM Subject: what is a CSU/DSU? Hi,ciscoer: when I study cisco ccnp, I always find CSU/DSU, what are them? what are their use? Are they some kind of MODEM? thanks . _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___