Stus-List Mast Rake for C&C 41
I'm looking for advice on what mast rake works best for a C&C 41 Doug Allardyce C&C 41 BULLET Detroit ~_/)~ ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Head Replacement
Edd, More than likely its hollow under the head platform. What I have done on several boats is to tap the fiberglass for a 1/4-20 thread. I always prefer to tap instead using a coarse threaded sheet metal or wood type screw. Holds better with much less gelcoat chipping. I have used the Jabsco "Quiet Flush" heads with no problems for 10 years now. Doug Allardyce C&C 35 III "BULLET" -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:13 AM To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Head Replacement Listers, I’m looking to replace my Jabsco manual electric-conversion head on my C&C 37+ to a better electric one. While Jabsco makes a “Lite” version which has the same mounting holes and same connections as the one I’m replacing, I’d like to consider other manufacturers as well. Has anyone done this? How did you mount it to the floor? There is no access underneath there. Any insights welcome to help me save costs and avoid a, pardon the pun, crappy job. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?
Boat_SigSince you are checking everything, check the tapered pin that holds the sprocket to the pedestal shaft. Doug Allardyce ~_/)~ -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 4:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeffrey Nelson Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links? Do you know any really good practical jokers? I can't imagine a possible way for the chain to jump off the socket and the key's unless they somehow broke would prohibit slipping elsewhere. On 1/23/2018 9:54 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote: Hello all, OK, I think I have a weird thing going here... I have adjusted the wheel to center the turks head knot straight up when the wheel is centered. I got it all nice & straight a few weeks ago, and came back to the boat to find it about 20 degrees off to port. By the way, were talking about 20% off on the wheel, not 20% of rudder. After installing my autopilot, I again adjusted it, this time getting the cables set to approximately the same amount of adjustment on each side to the adjustment bolts through the radial drive wheel. This required jumping the chain 1 or 2 notches on the wheel sprocket. All was well for a couple weeks, and behold, on Saturday I went back only to find the turks head knot about 20 degrees to starboard. During these adjustments, I have made a point to keep the cable deflection adjusted to be relatively minimal (say 1/2" or so?), without getting so tight as to reduce the feel of the wheel. I've notice no issues whatsoever when we're out sailing. During the first set of adjustments, I noticed the idler wheel bolts were a little loose, and tightened those. Considering the radial wheel bolts connect to each end of the cable, and the cables attach to the chain, I can only think the chain is somehow jumping on the sprocket. Thoughts? Bruce Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+, "Astralis" Madiera Beach, FL (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax Virus-free. www.avast.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Windows Navigation Software
Neil, I'm in Detroit and may have some sails available for sale this spring for a C&C 35 III. All are no older than two years with little use. Sail loft is either Doyle or Ullman. Contact info: doug.allard...@gmail.com 248-318-5677 Doug Allardyce C&C 35 III "BULLET" -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of schiller via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 10:23 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows Navigation Software I still keep SeaClear on my boat and home laptops. Easy to download charts from NOAA and I have a USB GPS module that originally came with Microsoft Streets and Trips 2010 that still works. Only used for trip planning and as a backup to the backup to the backup. Free and still works. Neil Schiller 1983 C&C35-3, #028 "Grace" White Lake, Michigan On 12/29/2017 8:49 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: As I recently mentioned I have upgraded from a Windows Surface RT tablet running Windows 8.1 to a Windows Laptop/Tablet hybrid running Windows 10. Navionics has discontinued support of BoatingHD app for Windows so I cannot reload my subscribed charts to Windows 10 machine although I could install the app. Since this is a laptop or a tablet under windows 10 (you can switch interfaces) I should have quite a bit of flexibility in choosing nav software. What are the preferred products for windows 10 platform? Please keep in mind that I am in Canada and we do not get free charts as the US does from NOAA Thanks Mike Hoyt Persistence Halifax, NS ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 29mk2 on the great lakes.
There is a 1988 30 MkII for the asking price of $31,900. located in Detroit. Listed by Bob Reeds Sailboat Center. http://www.scsailboat.com/boat-inventory/?slim=pp287215 Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Bruce and Kathy Fielding via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 6:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce and Kathy Fielding Subject: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 29mk2 on the great lakes. Can you post this for me? Bruce Fielding ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List C&C 40-2 Survey
I'm trying to make a list of the remaining C&C 40-2's that are still on the great lakes. If anyone is aware of one, please send me any info you might have. Thanks Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) <>___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List C&C 40-2 Survey
I'm trying to make a list of the remaining C&C 40-2's that are still on the great lakes. If anyone is aware of one, please send me any info you might have. Thanks Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) <>___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List (no subject)
Thank again Gary. This is very helpful. You did a great job laying everything out and then executing. No mysteries now on what needs to be done. Great installation. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 11:25 AM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject) Hi Doug, I had to cut a section out of the tube (terrifying) but it worked out great. Just do all the reinforcing first, before you cut it so everything stays lined up. The tube supports the deck. See pictures below: Gary High Maintenance Autopilot Project ~~~_/)~~ On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List wrote: Thanks Gary. Was a portion of the rudder shaft exposed, or did you have to cut a section of the tube away to install the arm for the auto pilot ram. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 9:31 AM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject) Yes, I do. I put one in a 37+ and I love it. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List wrote: Does anyone out there have experience putting a below deck autopilot on a 34 plus or 37/40. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List C&C 34 plus auto pilots
Thanks Josh. Very helpful. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 9:49 AM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34 plus auto pilots I didn't install it but I have one and have absolutely no complaints. Here are some pictures. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yZU1hczd0QlNEOWc Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 27, 2017 9:18 AM, "Doug Allardyce via CnC-List" wrote: Does anyone out there have experience putting a below deck autopilot on a 34 plus or 37/40. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List (no subject)
Thanks Gary. Was a portion of the rudder shaft exposed, or did you have to cut a section of the tube away to install the arm for the auto pilot ram. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 9:31 AM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject) Yes, I do. I put one in a 37+ and I love it. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List wrote: Does anyone out there have experience putting a below deck autopilot on a 34 plus or 37/40. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List C&C 34 plus auto pilots
Does anyone out there have experience putting a below deck autopilot on a 34 plus or 37/40. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) <>___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List (no subject)
Does anyone out there have experience putting a below deck autopilot on a 34 plus or 37/40. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) <>___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Replacing Cabin Sole - 35MkIII
Jonathon, Replaced the cabin sole on a 35 III three years ago. It took three sheets. I started with the big piece in front of the settee first, then worked the other pieces from it. Rough cut the shape with skill saw or table saw and finished with a router for a clean edge. try to get the seam on the teak to holly joint. Finish with Minwax polyurethane satin, three coats on bottom and edges and six coats on top to get nice smooth finish with no grain. Use 220 between the last three coats. I've used Minwax on three boats now, and I'm very pleased with the results. Just like a hardwood floor it wears like iron. I recoat after 3/5 years (depends on usage) with maybe two coats to freshen it up. Send me your email and I'll send some pictures of the project if that would help. Doug Allardyce C&C 35 III "BULLET" ~_/)~~~_/)~ -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Indigo via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Indigo Subject: Stus-List Replacing Cabin Sole - 35MkIII I am just about to start on the project to replace the teak and Holly cabin sole on Indigo. I have gleaned much info / advice from past postings on this list, but was wondering if anyone has prepared a "step by step" guide. Things I need help on! 1) steps to ensure that the Holly lines up exactly for each piece. I recently asked, and was told I need 2 pieces of 4' x 8' to complete the job and allow the lines to match up - but I thought from past postings that 3 pieces are needed. Can someone who has done a 35mkiii confirm which? 2) best tool(s) to use to cut out the new pieces using the old boards as templates. Any tips / techniques to ensure accuracy and minimise damage to new veneer? 3) I know I should epoxy the underneath (and sides?) of the boards - how many coats are advised - can the first coat be "thin" to aid penetration into the plywood? 4) advice on what to use for the top surface - presumably a polyurethane varnish - preferred brand, number of coats recommended, what finish (matt, semi-gloss, gloss?) -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Broke my boat
Neil, Sorry to hear about your disaster. Clearly one of every sailors worst nightmares. I can only imagine what you and your crew went through. On the bright side, no one was injured. After looking at your pictures I was surprised that the damage to the boat wasn't more extensive. The shroud came out fairly clean so the damage to the deck wall ugly is very repairable. The bulkhead will take a little more work, but also very repairable. I would replace about 18" of the bulkhead from outboard or until you get into good wood. Glass it in and add a large aluminum plate on the back side, and it will be stronger than new. It may not look like a new boat on the inside, but it will be stronger. If the insurance will cover the majority of the cost, its always nice to have a bran new Offshore rig with new shrouds you can trust. Good luck my friend. The Redwing 35 is a classic. We still have many active 35's in the Detroit racing circuit. Doug Allardyce C&C 35 III BULLET ~_/)_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of schiller via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller Subject: Stus-List Broke my boat We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan yesterday. The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate pulled out through the deck. The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off to the leeward side. We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race. The conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain plate failed. Waves were about 3 feet. We had been on a beam reach doing 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be able to point to the turning mark when it failed. We had about twenty seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the deck with the mast failed. Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure. I was just starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the slack leeward shroud. The helmsman had just started turning into the wind. After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit. Took the boat back in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until Monday when they can start assessing it. It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new mast and structural repairs necessary. The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the wood in the area does not look good. I will keep the list updated with how things pan out. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I) "Corsair" White Lake, Michigan (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being) ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Anyone got a B and G network series knot log 6 paddle sensor they would be willing to part with?
Ok, but just in case the AIRMAR number is 31-277-9-71, REV 4, and the customer part (perhaps B&G) is 650-AA-110/SEN-SPEED-N. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of doug.welch--- via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Anyone got a B and G network series knot log 6 paddle sensor they would be willing to part with? Thanks for your generous offer. I think your sensor is from the hornet series (1.55 inch diameter) and i have the network series (1.2 inch diameter). Cheers, Doug Celtic Knot 85 33-2 cb Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List wrote: Doug, I have an old speed paddle for early B&G speed instrument. It was installed on a 1985 C&C35 III. I don't know when it was installed on the boat. Its a (4) paddle unit. Needs a bore size or 1.55". It has 7 wires, white, brown ,red, green, black, yellow, gray. You can have it for shipping cost. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Doug Welch via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM To: C&C List Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Stus-List Anyone got a B and G network series knot log 6 paddle sensor they would be willing to part with? Mine broke in 2? Don't ask me how. It went in in 1 piece and came out in 2. Anyways B&G wants $500 for a replacement and I can't see myself spending that much for sensor replacement. If I can't find one at a reasonable price, I will seek permission from the admiral to replace my wind, depth and speed. I do like the current B and G series (Triton?) but would appreciate any input on the best bang for the buck. If you do have a sensor, please let me know how much you want for it. Cheers, Doug Celtic Knot 85 33-2 cb ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Anyone got a B and G network series knot log 6 paddle sensor they would be willing to part with?
Doug, I have an old speed paddle for early B&G speed instrument. It was installed on a 1985 C&C35 III. I don't know when it was installed on the boat. Its a (4) paddle unit. Needs a bore size or 1.55". It has 7 wires, white, brown ,red, green, black, yellow, gray. You can have it for shipping cost. Doug Allardyce _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Doug Welch via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM To: C&C List Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Stus-List Anyone got a B and G network series knot log 6 paddle sensor they would be willing to part with? Mine broke in 2? Don't ask me how. It went in in 1 piece and came out in 2. Anyways B&G wants $500 for a replacement and I can't see myself spending that much for sensor replacement. If I can't find one at a reasonable price, I will seek permission from the admiral to replace my wind, depth and speed. I do like the current B and G series (Triton?) but would appreciate any input on the best bang for the buck. If you do have a sensor, please let me know how much you want for it. Cheers, Doug Celtic Knot 85 33-2 cb ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Short Genoa Track on 35-III
Just wondering if anyone is using the short Genoa tracks just forward of the primary winches on the 35-III. Doug Allardyce C&C 35-III Bullet Detroit _/)~~~_/) <>___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List C&C 41 Wing Keel
Checking to see if anyone has experience with C&C 41's with the wing keel (6'2" draft) . I'm interested in the overall performance and stability. I'm just trying to get a feel for what I might be giving up with the wing, and to know how tender the boat might be. Doug _/)~~~_/) <>___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
I think so. Not much maintenance in fresh water. Just grease it every spring. Doug Allardyce C&C 35-III "BULLET" Detroit _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Sam Wheeler via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 6:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sam Wheeler Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 Thanks again to everyone for sharing your experiences. Sounds like a Max-Prop is the gold standard. On the other hand, it looks like those retail for a non-trivial percentage of what I paid for the entire boat. Plus ongoing maintenance costs. Is it worth it? On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List wrote: I had a Martec when I purchased the boat, and soon replaced it with a two blade 16" Maxprop. If I were to do it again, I would go with a three blade Maxprop. Less vibration. Doug Allardyce C&C 35-III "BULLET" Detroit _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 5:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jake Brodersen Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 Sam, My Martec doesn’t like to turn at slow speeds. I can actually feel the blades flopping around if I’m near idle speed. It’s not a big issue, but the prop does have some favorite rpm ranges. Mine is now about 12 years old and has never been rebuilt. I only average about 50 hours a year motoring though. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam Wheeler via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 16:13 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sam Wheeler Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 Thanks, everyone! Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low revs. Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve that issue? Sam ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
I had a Martec when I purchased the boat, and soon replaced it with a two blade 16" Maxprop. If I were to do it again, I would go with a three blade Maxprop. Less vibration. Doug Allardyce C&C 35-III "BULLET" Detroit _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 5:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jake Brodersen Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 Sam, My Martec doesn’t like to turn at slow speeds. I can actually feel the blades flopping around if I’m near idle speed. It’s not a big issue, but the prop does have some favorite rpm ranges. Mine is now about 12 years old and has never been rebuilt. I only average about 50 hours a year motoring though. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam Wheeler via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 16:13 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sam Wheeler Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3 Thanks, everyone! Tim and Dave, you mentioned issues getting the Martec to open at low revs. Would a short boost to high revs when you start the engine solve that issue? Sam ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
Chuck, I installed a Garhauer RV20-1SL several years ago now. I have an Offshore rig so the mast and boom already had the needed brackets for mounting. You will want to ask for the strong springs (yellow) when you order it. There are three. Great van for main trimming. I lead it back to the cockpit. You will find even with the strong springs the boom will be some what springy, so you will probably want to keep your topping lift, or put the main halyard on the boom when you put the boat away for the day. It will support the boom when I drop the main, but again a little spongy. I have a topping lift lead back to the cockpit, and leave it a little slack when sailing, and tighten it up after the main is down. I hopes this helps. Doug Allardyce Bullet C&C 35-3 Detroit _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Saur via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Saur Subject: Stus-List Boom vanging... Here's another post to get some experience-based advising. I am looking to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is always in the way of everything. I will also replace the blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them. There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc. Some are less expensive but appear the same. Thoughts? Chuck Saur Morning Sky C&C 35-3 Hessel Michigan___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stuffing Box Packing Recommendation needed
Pete, You should find this site a big help. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/stuffing_box Doug Allardyce C&C 35 III "BULLET" _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of kelly petew via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 10:55 AM To: cnc-list Cc: kelly petew Subject: Stus-List Stuffing Box Packing Recommendation needed Happy New Year to All!! I have a 30-2 and the stuff box was leaking noticeably all last season. While periodic tightening helped, I'm guessing it's time to renew the packing. And While a dripless seal would be great, it's not in the boat "budget". Any thoughts to share on preferred packing materials would be greatly appreciated. Pete W. Siren Song 1991 30MKII Deltaville, Va. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Refrigeration on C&C 35 mk III
Sam, I purchased a 1985 35-III about three years ago, and one of the initial upgrades was refrigeration. I wanted cold beer for my crew and I whenever we were out sailing or at the dock talking over the days race. I installed a Domestic CU-86 CoolMatic 80 Series Condensing Unit - Air Cooled, with a Domestic VD-09 CoolMatic 80 Series Evaporating Unit. I liked the CU-86 unit because it is smaller than most compressor units. It is designed so that it can be mounted on a bulkhead (no need to fabricate a shelf). In the case of the 35, it hangs on the bulkhead behind the ice box. Easy install. Nice and neat, out of the way. It generates almost no heat, and I never hear it running. It seems to be very efficient because I can sail all day 5-6 hrs running a complete set of instruments, a sail comp unit, 2 GPS's, an inverter powered laptop, with the refrigeration on two group 31 batteries with minimal battery loss. I'm in Michigan and the summers are generally in the 80's. I have not added any insulation to the box, and beer is always cold. The unit was purchased online from Defender Marine. The CU-86 Condensing Unit was $755.00, and the VD-09 Evaporating Unit was $260.00. If your interested I can send you pictures of the installation. I don't have any experience with the unit you referenced. I'm not sure how to install that unit on a 35 III. With the unit I described, I can keep a bag of ice cubs in the evaporator for cool drinks, which also makes the unit more efficient. I would go with a DC system if it were me. Its always running, always cold whether you are at the dock on shore power or out on the water. Doug Allardyce "BULLET" C&C 35 MK III _/)~~~_/) ~~~ -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Sam Wheeler via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:38 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sam Wheeler Subject: Stus-List Refrigeration on C&C 35 mk III Hi everyone, I'm new here. I recently purchased the 1984 C&C 35 mk III Spanish Dancer. My goal was to find a boat that would be comfortable enough to live on and capable enough to be fun to sail in San Francisco Bay - I'm extremely excited about this one. I've been sailing since I was a kid but this is my first (non-dinghy) boat of my own, so I expect I'll be boring you all with a lot of stupid questions over the next few months. First up: Refrigeration. My boat doesn't have it. Has anyone added refrigeration to a 35-3? How's the stock insulation in the ice chest? Any suggestions on what works or doesn't? Since I think it will be relatively rare for me to spend more than a night away from the slip and shore power, one thought I had was going with a holding plate system to run off shore power - maybe even an AC system. That would keep the load off my batteries, I wouldn't have to listen to the compressor running as often, and it should store enough cooling in the plate to last for daysails and short trips away from the dock. On the other hand, I'm thinking about the number of projects I have lined up, and the simplicity and relative low cost of a CoolMatic single unit kit starts to look pretty appealing. Has anyone used that or something similar? I'm a little concerned about the effect on efficiency of putting the compressor (which presumably runs warm) directly next to the box with what looks like minimal insulation between it and the evaporator. Here's the CooMatic kit I'm looking at: http://www.westmarine.com/buy/waeco-adler-barbour--coolmatic-cooling-conversion-kit--7895881 Focusing on air cooling at the moment. I'd rather listen to compressor noise and draw a little more shore power than put a new thru-hull in. Thanks in advance! I've been lurking for a week or so and this seems like a great community. Sam Spanish Dancer C&C 35 mk III San Francisco___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Water Ingress ??
Could it be siphoning in through your bilge pump discharge hose? Doug "BULLET" C&C 35 MK III _/)~~~_/) ~~~ -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Sailnomad via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sailnomad Subject: Stus-List Water Ingress ?? When tabasco (c&c25 with an outboard) is on the dock, there is absolutely no water coming in. When I am out, even motoring, I get some water in, maybe 2 quarts an hour, even in calm seas. I am in the process of replacing some rusty keel washers, but the nuts seem to be tight and I have no "smile". I have a hard time believing that so much water is seeping through the keel bolts. Does anybody have any other logical explanation besides pressure created on the leading edge of the keel ? I have no stuffing box. Ahmet S/V Waterdancer 43 Irwin MKII I S/V Tabasco C&C 25 Winthrop, MA, USA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List C&C 33 mkii mast step revisited
Dave, A fellow club member with a 33-2 had big problems with his mast step to the point that he couldn't keep his rig tight. He did allot of rebuilding inside the boat, including the cavity under the step that is filled with high density foam. After 30+ years it breaks down and you can't get proper torque on the leading keel bolt. If you have the "smile" on the leading portion of the keel where it beds up against the fiberglass hull, I would guess that you no longer have the support under the mast step that you need, and tightening the keel bolt just starts to compress the step adding to the problem. This has been a common issue on several C&C models. I have a 35-3 that needed repair for that reason. Not an easy fix, but it can be done. If you want to share you email address, I will send you pictures of the my 35-3 fix. Doug _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dave Syer via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 12:01 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dave Syer Subject: Stus-List C&C 33 mkii mast step revisited Hi All, So I checked the various posts and photos available, and chatted with one lister, but I have yet to see a really clear description of outright failure of the mast step area, other than repeat references to the 33ii collapsing mast step syndrome, and the assertion that the construction is inadequate. So, I took my (unfailed) boat apart, 'cuz, well, that's what I do... The mast sits in a rectangular cast-alloy base, that is longer and wider than the mast itself. This allows mostly for shimming fore and aft to adjust mast rake. The alloy base sits on the 'glass liner, which sits on a piece of 3/4"plywood, which sits on a pile of putty,(bog) which sits on a built up section of glass where one of the keel bolts penetrates and on a fabricated fiberglass cross-member spans the bilge, athwartships. This cross-member (aka "floor timber") is a hollow fiberglass beam which is semi-elliptical in section. (like an inverted trough.) It is part of the "spider" or whatever they called it, which stiffens the hull. The mast is still stepped, so I can't yet go further, but for now I can see three areas of potential failure: 1: The wood can deteriorate allowing the mast to settle by its thickness, 2: the putty could fracture crumble, move, fail, - ditto, 3: worst of all, the cross-member could conceivably collapse, allowing the mast to settle by some portion of its height. This would not be good If my mast step has settled, it's not by much. To me, the wood and putty part is kind of cheesy, and I'll re-do that anyway because it bugs me and I think wood in a wet place is bad news. The crossmember looks really strong, and while I have this apart I could get clever and reinforce it, but it may be totally unnecessary. Has anyone actually observed the mode of this particular failure? Can anyone confirm that this crossmember has been a failure point in normal use and has contributed to this purported flaw in the boat? Thanks! Dave BTW, I will document and post this work for the benefit of future generations. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List C&C 35-3 Mast Step rebuild
Tim, Do you have an out side email address. I just finished what you are about to start, and I have lots of pictures. Doug Bullet C&C 35-3 Troy, Mi _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 3:28 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-3 Mast Step rebuild I have a mast step reinforcement / rebuild project ahead of me (ahead of the yard anyway) this spring. Looking closely, the fiberglass that the aluminium step plate sits on has sunk compared to the area around it and probably flexes more when the mast is stepped and there is pressure on the rigging. I know others have done this before - does anyone have photos / advice they can share so I can plan this out with the yard? I have pictures from Jake's R&R job, but only one showing the step in that set. Thanks! Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rigging Question
Tim, You could always drill the holes for a larger bolt. Doug Allardyce "Bullet" 1985 C&C 35 MK III Detroit _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Rigging Question There was mention recently of 'hooks" that insert into the mast collar then bolt to the mast to hold the deck down when running rigging is under tension. On my 35-3, the bolt through the mast has started to tear at the mast column and elongate the holes. I could change the length of the "hooks" and create another hole somewhere else on the mast. In that case, has anyone used a sleeve to stop the relatively small bolt sawing at the mast tube? Does anyone have any other solutions out there (e.g. wire to the mast step each side)? Thanks, Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List C&C 38 MK III Info
Thanks Pierre, That helps a lot. Impressive numbers. I'm lucky to get 30 degrees out of my 35-3, and I need to reef way before 15 TWS with the #1 up which is a mylar sail. Doug _/)~~~_/) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:26 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 MK III Info Hi Doug, Avalanche has a wing keel. Cannot compare with the full keel, but I can say that upwind performance is impressive. All the experience sailor at the club think I have the full keel because I can point so well. With the genoa sheeted tight in the shrouds, the telltales are streaming up to 27 degree AWA. At 25 AWA, the windward telltales are lifting, I can hold 20 degree AWA for few minutes without stalling, but it is slow. I found the polar diagram of a C&C 38-3 full keel (from an ORC International Certificate), and the VMG is at 42 degree TWA. Last summer, I recorded my boat data during a race, and most of my tack where 85 degree (there were no wind shift during those). It is tender that other sailboat, but not that much. With my cruising sails, I have to reef early (15 knots TWS), but I think it is more related to my old 15 years old cruising sails (read "potato bag shape"). During a race, we had the #1 genoa up, and with 15 knots TWS, never heeled more than 22 degree. With the huge sail plan, it heel faster that other boat, but it rapidly sits on its cheeks. Huge beam those 38-3. I have all sorts of comment on my boat; it looks pregnant, looks like a squirrel with a mouthful of nuts, etc... Around here (St-Lawrence 1000 Islands), the shoal draft is priceless. Pierre Tremblay Avalanche #54988 C&C38-3 WK, hull #76 De : Doug Allardyce via CnC-List À : CnC- List Envoyé le : samedi 8 novembre 2014 10h44 Objet : Stus-List C&C 38 MK III Info I'm looking at a 1987 C&C 38 MK III with a wing keel. Does anyone out there have any experience on how the upwind performance is with the wing keel at 5' 6" draft vs the full keel at 7' 7" draft. I understand that the full keel model will probably point better, I'm just trying to get a feel for what I might be giving up with the wing. Also curious to know how tender the boat might be. Plan to do some casual club racing. Doug _/)~~~_/) ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List C&C 38 MK III Info
I'm looking at a 1987 C&C 38 MK III with a wing keel. Does anyone out there have any experience on how the upwind performance is with the wing keel at 5' 6" draft vs the full keel at 7' 7" draft. I understand that the full keel model will probably point better, I'm just trying to get a feel for what I might be giving up with the wing. Also curious to know how tender the boat might be. Plan to do some casual club racing. Doug _/)~~~_/) <>___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Keel Bolt Under the Mast on 35 MK 3
Has anyone out there done any reconstruction in that cavity under the mast step where the keel bolt comes up. My mast step is solid, but I can't seem to get the forward keel bolt tight enough. I dropped the keel last spring and rebeded it with 5200 but the forward bolt still leaks after a hard race. Doug "Bullet" C&C 35 MK 3, 1985 _/)~~~_/) <>___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com