Stus-List Re: Outhaul

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Rob,

Replaced mine will all rope. Never had a problem. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On May 22, 2024, at 9:59 PM, Rob Hamlin via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi
Anyone replaced their outhaul? Boat is a C 37+, with rope to wire that 
attaches to the main.

Looking at the manual it’s says 3/8 30ft, but nothing about wire.

Thanks
Rob
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Stus-List Re: C Racing Shirt - Size XL - Free (pay Shipping and Donation)

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

You did! I’ll send you a message to your email off list. 

All the best,

Edd


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On Dec 31, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List  
wrote:

Did I win Edd?



Chuck Saur

517 490-5926 Cell



 



On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:23 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Listers,
> 
> Happy new year! 
> 
> I’m giving away my never-worn C Racing polo shirt, size XL. 
> 
> On the front is the C logo with “RACING” underneath. On the back are the 
> nautical flags: Alpha Mike Foxtrot (You’ll have to look it up as to what that 
> means, but here’s a hint: C are so fast that your competition will see 
> this on your back as you pull away.)
> 
> See: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2jdxgny0u4zp6sgwp8yok/cc-shirt.jpg?rlkey=zsylggrdk09zmttmb4i68lpj8=0
>  
> 
> First person to reply that he/she wants it has first dibs. After that. i’ll 
> need $10 via PayPal to cover shipping and for you to make a donation to Stu 
> for the C site/list. I’ll leave it up to you if you want to donate $1 or 
> $100. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List C Racing Shirt - Size XL - Free (pay Shipping and Donation)

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Happy new year! 

I’m giving away my never-worn C Racing polo shirt, size XL. 

On the front is the C logo with “RACING” underneath. On the back are the 
nautical flags: Alpha Mike Foxtrot (You’ll have to look it up as to what that 
means, but here’s a hint: C are so fast that your competition will see this 
on your back as you pull away.)

See: 
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2jdxgny0u4zp6sgwp8yok/cc-shirt.jpg?rlkey=zsylggrdk09zmttmb4i68lpj8=0
 

First person to reply that he/she wants it has first dibs. After that. i’ll 
need $10 via PayPal to cover shipping and for you to make a donation to Stu for 
the C site/list. I’ll leave it up to you if you want to donate $1 or $100. 


All the best,

Edd


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Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Jeff,

The second Enterprise was a 1978 C 34 and I believe she had Barient 24s. We 
added some Lewmars when we raced spinnaker. 

I like Richard’s electric idea, but I’m not sure you’d have room below the deck 
for the motors. Suggest you talk to Lewmar, they may have bigger winches that 
will us the same mounting holes. 


All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

> On Sep 12, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jeffrey, I feel your pain...I have a 37, and it has gi-normous winches, I 
> downsized from a 155 to a 135 just to ease the energy load needed...(75 this 
> month)
> If I were getting new winches, I would go electric! They will increase the 
> sale price of the boat some day too! 
> 
> Richard
> 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584* (hauled out for repairs)
> 
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:46:16 AM EDT, Jeffrey A. Laman via 
> CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> I have attempted to search the archives for information and opinions on new 
> primary winches for C, but was not able to locate a discussion.  If there 
> has been, my apologies.  It has become apparent that the old, Lewmar, 
> self-tailing, 2-spd winches that came on my boat are not adequate -- in a 
> moderate wind with a 155 genoa it takes two crew cranking with all their 
> strength to bring the sheet in far enough.  I and the crew are not getting 
> younger, either -- average age about 65 to 70.  I don't know the details of 
> gear ratios and power ratio for these old Lewmars, but am investigating so I 
> have that as a reference.  If any of you C, or similar sized boat, owners 
> have recommendations for replacement, 2-spd, self-tailing winches, I would be 
> grateful.  I frequently sail solo and hope to be able to continue for another 
> 10 to 15 years (if I live to be 80!), so I need to factor that in the 
> decision.  Also, any experiences or recommendations for the actual removal 
> and installation would be great too!  Thanks.
> 
> Jeff Laman
> 1981 C Harmony
> Ludington, MI
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Stus-List Re: Long Island sound

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joel,

Having lived most of my life sailing Long Island Sound, I can share a few 
recommendations:

Port Jefferson is a great town with wonderful shops and restaurants. Also easy 
to get in and out of the harbor. 

Oyster Bay is very protected, but it takes some to get in there. Another great 
town and Canterbury Ales was a favorite restaurant of mine. 

On the CT shore, Cedar Island Marina in Clinton is a nice spot with a great 
restaurant, pool, marine store, laundry, etc. They also have a shuttle to the 
outlet mall. 

Greenwich is nice stop, but so close to Port Washington, that you may want to 
just go the rest. If you do hit Greenwich, Indian Harbor YC is a nice club and 
it’s a short walk into town. 

Places to avoid: Bridgeport (industrial), Huntington (very hot - no wind), and 
Stamford (kinda run down.)

So, for Mystic, I would go from Mystic to Clinton, from Clinton to Port Jeff, 
from Port Jeff to Oyster Bay, then Oyster Bay to Port Washington. 

 

All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

> On Aug 29, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> We will be travelling from Mystic through LIS next month.Are there any 'must 
> see' places between Mystic and Port Washington on either shore?
> 
> -- 
> Joel
> Hylas 49 Rule One
> formerly C 35 The Office  
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Stus-List Re: Engine strangeness

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

David,

My thinking is it’s not water, as once it stopped, it probably wouldn’t start 
again until it was cleaned out. Nevertheless, check the filter and bleed the 
injectors if needed. 

It could be air, so try your bleed points and get the bubbles out. 

As someone mentioned, there could be some crud in the line somewhere that 
eventually blocks the fuel and then backs off so you can start again. 

My money is on crud in the lines somewhere. Maybe your primary filter needs 
replacement. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:23 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

I am out for the first time this season. Engine started right up. Motored out 
of harbor for two hours. Turned engine off for a while waiting for wind. 
Started back up. Ran for 15-30 sec and died. Started up and ran for a bit 
longer then died. Pulled bed to get access and fuel pressure and level in racor 
look fine. Started up and ran fine for 40 min. WTF?  Dave

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Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Thomas,

4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, 
loading and unloading — and then restepping? 

My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a 
new boat up north. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Greetings all - 
Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post.  …welcoming all input / advice 
from the elders…
-sorry in advance for the long post - 

Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I 
moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on 
trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). 
Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost.   I have put 
extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 /  
running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & 
main sheet; lifelines,  lights; among other things. 
I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range 
from $teens to low $20s. 
My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option:  sell in MD or bear the 
cost to truck her to WNY? 
I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically.  
Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III 
for sale locally…! 

Cheers ! 
Tom 
“Therapy”
1984 29-Mk II 
Solomons MD 


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Stus-List Re: Racing at night

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

David,

I’ve done quite a lot of night racing.

https://youtu.be/2I69h6fwL1E

Yes, if you use a spotlight to read your telltales, your night vision will be 
shot. Instead, have one of your crew who is sitting more forward, use a 
lower-powered light and have him continuously communicate with you “head up”, 
“head down “, or “good course,” 

You have a team on board. Use them. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Feb 26, 2023, at 12:01 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

I just read an interesting article in Practical Sailor on red vs. white lights 
and night vision.  It reminded me to ask a question of those more experienced 
about night racing.  I have only done this a few times and found upwind 
steering at night to be a real challenge.  I normally steer by the genoa 
telltales.  In light, shifting winds which we inevitably encounter at the 
darkest hours, it is especially important to steer well to keep the boat 
moving, but it is hard.   We used a hand held spotlight to periodically check 
the telltales, but that destroys night vision.  Are there better solutions?  
Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Happy Holidays to the C List!

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Just wanted to take a moment to wish all of you, even David Risch, a very 
joyous holiday season along with a happy and healthy (and breezy) new year! 

For some added holiday cheer, here’s a photo of the new Starship Enterprise 
(NCC-1701-C) in this past weekend’s Venice Christmas Boat Parade taken by a 
spectator on the shoreline. The Enterprise was one of 45 boats participating.  

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ruxuok3u1x7zav/xmas2022.jpg?dl=0
xmas2022.jpg
dropbox.com

Have a great one! 

All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Very sad news indeed. I was so thankful to meet Rob at our 2012 C Rendezvous 
in Mystic, CT. He gave the group a great talk about the C designs and he was 
happy to talk with owners one-on-one about their boats and answer their 
questions. 

Here is a photo of him at Mystic checking out the Enterprise-B, a 1990 C 37+:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QBvBegS9zXA/UG2olsTiAcI/BnU/UrjYO2tFsOs/s1600/Ball.png
 

I posted the photo on my Captain’s Log blog and posted a survey:

What is Rob Ball thinking?
Hot damn, I designed a really nice boat.
If only she was as fast as she looks.
So this is the boat from the blog I keep hearing about.
What did this Star Trek geek freak do to my design?

The fourth was the overwhelming winner….. 

RIP Rob.

All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










On Sep 10, 2022, at 7:43 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List  
wrote:

That is very sad news. Many thanks, Ron, for the gift of your talent.

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> On Sep 10, 2022, at 4:40 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
> that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
> generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
> asked.
> RIP, Rob.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
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>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
>> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Engine not turning over

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

David,

It sounds like you have a bad solenoid for your starter and juice is not 
getting to it. It could also be a bad starter, but more likely the solenoid. 

It’s a relatively cheap fix, though probably hard to access. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

> On Jul 7, 2022, at 9:07 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Last night, out of the blue, my engine would not turn over after a race.  
> Nothing at all when I push the start button.  I ran the engine before the 
> race and all was fine and have had no issues at all this year.  Fortunately, 
> I was able to sail the short distance to the mooring without a problem.  I 
> will be going out to the boat later to try to fix the problem and wanted to 
> see if anyone had thoughts on the problem from personal experience. 
> 
> Plenty of power- batteries fully charged.  I tried bridging the two batteries 
> just to be sure and still nothing happens.
> Key switch on I can hear the fuel pump ticking over. 
>  I measured 12V across the start button poles, which goes to zero when 
> pressed and my recollection is that is normal the way it is wired with the 
> glow plug button.  I have not yet measured at the starter, as that is a real 
> PITA to get to.  
> 
> Everything had been working fine up until that incident.  The only thing that 
> happened during the race, (and I don’t think relevant) is that the genoa 
> sheet got wrapped around the engine stop pull knob at one point.  I checked 
> and the cable and stop look fine, and the engine should still turn over even 
> if it were pulled, is my understanding.  It just should not start.  
> 
> So I am thinking either engine ground wire or starter and plan to clean both 
> and try again.  Any thoughts welcome.  Thanks- Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 

Stus-List Re: 37+ Polars

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Rob,

I don’t have it in table format, but this may help you out:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntlbe5eims3zd4u/37PlusPolars.pdf?dl=0 


All the best,

Edd


> On Jun 15, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Rob Hamlin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone have the polars in a table format?
> 
> Thanks
> Rob
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: 37/40 prop shaft.

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Al,

No, it should be slightly offset so you can pull it. Depending on your prop, 
however, you may need to remove that. 

All the best,

Edd


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Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On May 24, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Alan Liles via CnC-List  
wrote:

I want to replace my prop shaft due to wear at the packing. Does the rudder 
need to be removed to get the shaft out on these boats?

Cheers, Al

Stus-List Re: Where to Source a Running Light

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Randy,

I’m pretty sure those are made by Perko. Still in business. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On May 5, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Does anyone know where to source the dome-style running lights for an older 
C, with the green red or white plastic insert?

Here’s a photo of what I’m looking for: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xe1lV7JICWSDbu8LOfELaCvJkaZ6TM9C/view?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
SV Grenadine
C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO

Stus-List Re: knot meter not working

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bob,

Is the boat in the water? If so, pull the transducer and clean it /clear it 
thoroughly. 

I didn’t have B, but that solution worked well on my old Raymarine system. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Apr 26, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Bob Mann via CnC-List  
wrote:


My speed/depth/temp thru-hull is now showing dashes instead of values.  It's 
the airmar DST800 that came with my B displays.  Can these be repaired or am 
I SOL?  Is there a number/email for B?  The local, official installer isn't 
worth crap so even though only ~25 months old probably not covered under 
warranty. 

Bob
Mystic

Stus-List Re: testing list

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

1 7 0 1 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Apr 5, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Jeff Nelson via CnC-List  
wrote:

 4 5 6 7

On 2022-04-05 08:51, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:
> 1
> 2
> 3
>  

-- 
Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 - 549
  Armdale Y.C.

Stus-List Re: Spreader lights

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Glenn,

I’ll take them. Let me know your address off-list and I’ll send you a pre-paid 
shipping label.)

All the best,

Edd


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Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Jan 17, 2022, at 5:15 PM, Glenn Henderson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I am replacing the old (but very Bright) spreader lights on my C 41. With all 
the new technology advances, do any of you have a graciously accepted 
recommendation on a particular light. I did enjoy the very bright lights that 
are on the mast. They still work but I am sure there are LED's that offer as 
bright illumination. If any one would like my existing lights, just pay 
shipping and I will send them to you.

Glenn and Lindsey Henderson
C 41
WeGo


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Stus-List C Trawler

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

For anyone who is thinking of going to the dark side but still want to remain 
loyal to C, this came up in my inbox this morning:

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1985-c-c-37-7868680/?utm_source=search%20alerts_medium=email_campaign=BT_SearchAlerts_content=1122022
 

 


All the best,

Edd


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Stus-List Re: Confession Time - "Dark Side"...not so dark

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I’m just amazed that David said he was going to go to Florida and then actually 
did it. 

Welcome to the dark side, my friend. Let me know if you ever get to the better 
coast. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Jan 6, 2022, at 7:55 PM, Andy Frame via CnC-List  
wrote:


So where rich folk usually have a "summer home" and a "winter home", you
have a "summer yacht" and a "winter yacht"? :-D



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Stus-List Re: C 34/36 or 37/40 Series Stanchion

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce, 

The stanchion is yours. Let’s set up a date and time for you to pick it up.

All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Dec 24, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Edd,

 I'd certainly take those spare stanchions if you don’t have any takers.  And 
extra stanchions base would be greatly appreciated if you find one as well, as 
I think I might have found one of the last remaining examples after a rental 
wave runner demolished one a couple years back.  We could even drive down and 
pick them up and finally meet you in person.  :)

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092

On Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 2:56 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Will do. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










On Dec 23, 2021, at 2:54 PM, richard hosker via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Season Greetings Edd
 
Richard in San Diego 
Can you keep me in mind if you find any more 37+ parts 
I already have 2 stanchions on the boat spare
 
Richard Hosker
Malo 37/40+ 1989  
 
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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 8:48 AM
To: Stus-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Edd Schillay <mailto:e...@schillay.com>
Subject: Stus-List C 34/36 or 37/40 Series Stanchion
 
Listers with 34/36s or 37/40s,
 
In going through my garage, I’m finding some extra stuff I had on hand for the 
Enterprise-B that I no longer need. One such item is a stanchion which I’m 
willing to give away to anyone who wants it by sending a donation to Stu and a 
PDF of a UPS label from me (34238 zip code) to you. 
 
Condition: New
 
Other items coming soon for all C’ers. I feel like Santa Claus. 
 
All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL





 



 
 
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Stus-List Re: C 34/36 or 37/40 Series Stanchion

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Will do. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










On Dec 23, 2021, at 2:54 PM, richard hosker via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Season Greetings Edd
 
Richard in San Diego 
Can you keep me in mind if you find any more 37+ parts 
I already have 2 stanchions on the boat spare
 
Richard Hosker
Malo 37/40+ 1989  
 
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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 8:48 AM
To: Stus-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Edd Schillay <mailto:e...@schillay.com>
Subject: Stus-List C 34/36 or 37/40 Series Stanchion
 
Listers with 34/36s or 37/40s,
 
In going through my garage, I’m finding some extra stuff I had on hand for the 
Enterprise-B that I no longer need. One such item is a stanchion which I’m 
willing to give away to anyone who wants it by sending a donation to Stu and a 
PDF of a UPS label from me (34238 zip code) to you. 
 
Condition: New
 
Other items coming soon for all C’ers. I feel like Santa Claus. 
 
All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL





 



 
 
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Stus-List C 34/36 or 37/40 Series Stanchion

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers with 34/36s or 37/40s,

In going through my garage, I’m finding some extra stuff I had on hand for the 
Enterprise-B that I no longer need. One such item is a stanchion which I’m 
willing to give away to anyone who wants it by sending a donation to Stu and a 
PDF of a UPS label from me (34238 zip code) to you. 

Condition: New

Other items coming soon for all C’ers. I feel like Santa Claus. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










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Stus-List Re: mounting chart plotter at helm

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bob,

I have seen boats that put a swivel mount on the top of the pedestal guard, but 
I always found that to be too high and a safety issue (crew reaching for 
something to hold on to). 

I used to set mine up with one of those removable West Marine rail clamps 
attached to the bracket. That enabled me to swivel the chart plotter so I could 
see it from the helm or from the side.  

All the best, 

Edd

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Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:

I was going to put another instrument display at the helm of my 35 mk I, but 
realized a chartplotter was only a couple hundred more so went that route.  

Any suggestions on how to mount it to my Edson pedestal so I can rotate it 
sideways, for easy viewing from the coaming? I rarely steer from behind the 
wheel so I want to see it from the sides.  The pedestal is about the same 
height as the wheel (not my boat, but similar setup. I don't have the top 
tray): https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/17/14/05/22/2012-110.jpg)

The chartplotter is the B Vulcan 9.

regards,
Bob Mann
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Stus-List Re: Whisker pole with a 37/40+?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I found a photo of the track:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c10vvqjoad6ho7l/Screen%20shot%202011-11-14%20at%209.36.54%20AM.png?dl=0
 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/c10vvqjoad6ho7l/Screen%20shot%202011-11-14%20at%209.36.54%20AM.png?dl=0>
 

We had a bullet car (for the spinnaker pole) and a ring car (for the whisker 
pole) on there. 

If you need parts, the Enterprise-B is in Apollo Beach somewhere. Go stealthily 
under cover of night. New owner will probably never know….   

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Nov 18, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

Bruce,

Do you have a track running up the front of your mast? If so, you would measure 
the track width and buy a ring car that would fit it. 

If not, you need to install the track and the appropriate ring car. The ring 
should not be in a fixed position as you will find higher and lower settings to 
be faster in different wind conditions. You’d also want to be able to send the 
car upwards to effectively dip the pole when jibing. 

DO NOT attached a pole to the gooseneck in your photo. That is a disaster 
waiting to happen. Seriously. Very bad. We’re talking mass hysteria. Dogs and 
cats living together…. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Nov 18, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hello all,

I was wondering if you folks can give me some advice as to rigging a whisker 
pole on our 37/40+.  The boat, which has spent a good part of its time on the 
west coast of Florida, was previously named "Dagny" and saw its share of races. 
 Yet, the boat does not have a whisker pole ring/car on the front of the mast, 
and does not have a whisker pole onboard.  Nor does it have the equipment for a 
spinnaker pole, though the boat came with a symmetrical spinnaker.

I'd like to rig a whisker pole for use with our 150 Genoa and a large 
asymmetrical spinnaker.  

Funny thing is, at the gooseneck, there is a bolt that holds the two pieces 
together that has a ring mounted at the bottom.  I don't think it would get the 
perfect angle, but would it be that easy to rig the pole to that ring?  A photo 
of that bolt/ring can be found here:  

https://www.dropbox.com/s/re5kalfn9slfidr/Gooseneck%20Fitting.jpg?dl=0 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/re5kalfn9slfidr/Gooseneck%20Fitting.jpg?dl=0>

The 150 and the asymmetrical will both have the clew behind the mast most if 
not all the time I would be using it.  In the case of the big asymmetrical, I 
think it might be so far back as to bank up against the rigging, though 
obviously I haven't used one on this boat as of yet.

Can anyone provide any insights?  

Thank you!!!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List Re: Whisker pole with a 37/40+?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

Do you have a track running up the front of your mast? If so, you would measure 
the track width and buy a ring car that would fit it. 

If not, you need to install the track and the appropriate ring car. The ring 
should not be in a fixed position as you will find higher and lower settings to 
be faster in different wind conditions. You’d also want to be able to send the 
car upwards to effectively dip the pole when jibing. 

DO NOT attached a pole to the gooseneck in your photo. That is a disaster 
waiting to happen. Seriously. Very bad. We’re talking mass hysteria. Dogs and 
cats living together…. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Nov 18, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello all,

I was wondering if you folks can give me some advice as to rigging a whisker 
pole on our 37/40+.  The boat, which has spent a good part of its time on the 
west coast of Florida, was previously named "Dagny" and saw its share of races. 
 Yet, the boat does not have a whisker pole ring/car on the front of the mast, 
and does not have a whisker pole onboard.  Nor does it have the equipment for a 
spinnaker pole, though the boat came with a symmetrical spinnaker.

I'd like to rig a whisker pole for use with our 150 Genoa and a large 
asymmetrical spinnaker.  

Funny thing is, at the gooseneck, there is a bolt that holds the two pieces 
together that has a ring mounted at the bottom.  I don't think it would get the 
perfect angle, but would it be that easy to rig the pole to that ring?  A photo 
of that bolt/ring can be found here:  

https://www.dropbox.com/s/re5kalfn9slfidr/Gooseneck%20Fitting.jpg?dl=0 


The 150 and the asymmetrical will both have the clew behind the mast most if 
not all the time I would be using it.  In the case of the big asymmetrical, I 
think it might be so far back as to bank up against the rigging, though 
obviously I haven't used one on this boat as of yet.

Can anyone provide any insights?  

Thank you!!!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List C Yachts Mugs

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

I have in my possession nine (9) C Yachts coffee mugs. See: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c545prnvl381v75/mug.jpg?dl=0 
 

First person that makes a $30 donation to Stu and sends me a PDF of a UPS 
shipping label (8 pounds — from Sarasota, FL 34233) gets them all.

Email me at e...@schillay.com   

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












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Stus-List Re: Electric Bilge Pump

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Rob,

There should be three wires coming off the bilge pump. One is ground, one is 
for auto and the other is for manual (they should be color-coded based on your 
operating manual — they may even have “flags” on them. Check the voltage on the 
manual one when the switch is on. It may be the connection there, a blown 
inline fuse, or the breaker on your switch panel. 

It’s most likely the connection or a blown fuse. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










On Oct 17, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
wrote:

My electric bilge pump has 3 settings, Auto (with a float to activate), Off, 
and Manual.  I turned on the Manual setting and the pump didn't come on.   It 
does work in the Auto settingif I fill the bilge to lift the float or raise 
it by hand, the pump works.

Since and I am no electrician, any ideas where to look for the problem?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.
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Stus-List Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2
This was the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701-B) under my 
command. This ship, and her history, will shortly become the care of another 
crew. To them and their posterity will we commit our future. They will continue 
the voyages we have begun, and journey to all the undiscovered countries, 
boldly going where no man, or no one, has gone before.

https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/uploads/monthly_2021_05/262982986_01Scan10043.JPG.6fbb5975e3cbfdabb3489ace4df4267f.JPG
 

 


All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












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Stus-List Re: leeward layline

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bob,

There is really no way to answer that as much depends on how fast your boat 
sails in various win conditions. For example, in heavier breeze, you can sail 
almost directly downwind. In light air, you’ll want to sail higher to maximize 
your speed. The key is to keep an eye on your VMG as you race. And don’t be 
afraid to gybe multiple times. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B (for sale - NCC-1701-C is under contract)
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Bob Mann via CnC-List  
wrote:

I'm fairly new to flying a spinnaker.  I did it last weekend in a race and I 
believe I overstood the mark as we were sailing 110 AW before the gybe and 85 
AW heading directly to the mark.
 
How does one determine when to gybe?
 
Bob
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Stus-List Re: Perfect boat

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Sheesh — I can’t believe we have some sci-fi loving geeks on the list. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B (for sale - NCC-1701-C is under contract)
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL


On Sep 30, 2021, at 9:07 AM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
wrote:

YES!!   

Neil Andersen
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800
From: Andy Frame via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 202
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andy Frame
Subject: Stus-List Re: Perfect boat
 
So, a TARDIS.

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Stus-List Re: Boat Donation to Charity?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joel,

Suggest you then, well, BOLDLY GO for it. :-)

All the best, 

Edd

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Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Sep 11, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I want it

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 2:06 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Mass Maritime Academy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> Any suggestions on a good charity to donate a boat to? Preferably one that 
>> will actually use the boat instead of selling it for charity funds (Fair 
>> market value deduction)
>> 
>> It looks like things are moving forward with the next Enterprise and I’d 
>> like to avoid paying two insurance and slip bills. 
>> 
>> (Meaning: Yes, I will sell this boat for dirt cheap at this point. Bring 
>> offers!)
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> 
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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-- 
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www.jdroofing.ca

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Stus-List Re: Boat Donation to Charity?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Charlie,

Here is the listing:

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40--3829704/

The board is pinned in place and the slot glasses over. Would not take much 
work at a yard to open it all up again. 

However, the boat performed better in anything up to 15 knots without the slot 
or extra drag. 

In 20 she performed the same. 

In over 20, we saw a slight decrease in performance but was still outsailing 
everything else in her PHRF range. 

And you can save thousands every bunch of years maintaining the pennant 
(requires a haul-out) 

All the best, 

Edd

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Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Sep 11, 2021, at 8:43 PM, cenelson  wrote:

 Where can I find more boat info—is she on a listing somewhere?

In particular, how has her cb been ‘permanently’ raised? What might be involved 
in making it retractable again?

Charlie Nelson
1995 C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom




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On Saturday, September 11, 2021, 6:31 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Joe,

 No dead bodies. She surveyed great two years ago. 

The only thing she may need now is bottom paint. And that could wait a while. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Sep 11, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Ed – gotta ask – is there a dead body in the boat? Core saturated? Seems like a 
nice boat.

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 1:16 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Boat Donation to Charity?

 

Listers,

 

Any suggestions on a good charity to donate a boat to? Preferably one that will 
actually use the boat instead of selling it for charity funds (Fair market 
value deduction)

 

It looks like things are moving forward with the next Enterprise and I’d like 
to avoid paying two insurance and slip bills. 

 

(Meaning: Yes, I will sell this boat for dirt cheap at this point. Bring 
offers!)


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 




   

 





 

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Stus-List Re: Boat Donation to Charity?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joe,

 No dead bodies. She surveyed great two years ago. 

The only thing she may need now is bottom paint. And that could wait a while. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Sep 11, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
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Ed – gotta ask – is there a dead body in the boat? Core saturated? Seems like a 
nice boat.
 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 1:16 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Boat Donation to Charity?
 
Listers,
 
Any suggestions on a good charity to donate a boat to? Preferably one that will 
actually use the boat instead of selling it for charity funds (Fair market 
value deduction)
 
It looks like things are moving forward with the next Enterprise and I’d like 
to avoid paying two insurance and slip bills. 
 
(Meaning: Yes, I will sell this boat for dirt cheap at this point. Bring 
offers!)

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 



   
 



 
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Stus-List Boat Donation to Charity?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Any suggestions on a good charity to donate a boat to? Preferably one that will 
actually use the boat instead of selling it for charity funds (Fair market 
value deduction)

It looks like things are moving forward with the next Enterprise and I’d like 
to avoid paying two insurance and slip bills. 

(Meaning: Yes, I will sell this boat for dirt cheap at this point. Bring 
offers!)

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL









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Stus-List Ultrasonic Anti-Fouling?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Someone asked me if I knew anything about Ultrasonic Anti-Fouling, which was 
the first time I’ve ever heard of it. After some Google searching, it’s 
intriguing. 

Anyone know anything about it? Know of anyone with any experience with it?

It just all seems too good to be true. You know, like when David Risch 
registers to attend a rendezvous.  

All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL









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Stus-List Re: Replacing Cabin/Deck Balsa Core

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I would take a good look at Injectadeck — https://injectadeck.com 
 

I have not had a need to use it myself, but I know of others who have and swear 
by it. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B (for sale - NCC-1701-C is under contract)
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Aug 25, 2021, at 12:19 PM, SV Mary Me via CnC-List  
wrote:

I've got some soft spots returning on the deck at the base of the mast, that a 
previous owner had made an attempt to shore up. According to the owners manual, 
the cabin-ceiling/deck sandwich is balsa cored, so I'm working with the 
assumption that this has rotted away. 

The local supply store has a plastic honeycomb panel to use as a base material 
for fibreglass work that could use to fill the space, once the rotted material 
is dug out. I also thought about using expanding, self-hardening construction 
foam that could be shaved and shaped, then 'glassed over.

Has anyone used, or have any thoughts on using the expanding foam?


s/v Mary Me
1975 C 24
Labelle, Florida USA

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Stus-List Re: Using a broker

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Adam,

+1 to Josh’s comments — it really helps if you are looking to borrow money to 
purchase the boat and if there are murky title and inspection issues. But, as 
Josh says, if you are capable and comfortable doing these things yourself (as 
many seasoned boat owners already are) then it’s really not necessary. 

PS — If you are looking for slightly newer and larger than your current 1981 
36, suggest you look at a 1990 37/40. I know of one that you can get for a 
steal — way lower than market value. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B (for sale - NCC-1701-C is under contract)
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Aug 23, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:

A broker might be able to help you find a boat and if you are getting a loan 
they can smooth the title, inspection, insurance, and loan process.  If you are 
comfortable with handling those things yourself then I would consider foregoing 
the broker.  Especially and specifically if the boat is local to you.  Going 
into using a broker thinking that they are "looking out" for your interests as 
well or better than you would is IMO hopeful at best.  The broker gets paid 
when they close the deal, not based on how much they saved you or the number of 
hours worked or the number of phone calls made.  It is in the interest of the 
seller, the sellers agent, AND the buyers agent to close the deal quickly and 
at the highest price.  The only person who wins by moving slow and methodical, 
searching for the best boat and the best deal is the buyer (you).


Just my 2 cents, 

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 10:04 Adam Hayden via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello listers


We are considering/ starting our search  and looking for  something  newer and 
slightly larger than our current 1981 C

I am sure this has been debated before.   Do I need to have a buyers broker( 
like real estate) looking our for my interests or is that an unnecessary 
expense?   I purchased my last 3 boats without one but they were more local.   

Thanks
Adam Hayden

Thanks
Adam

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Stus-List Re: Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat Festival

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

$10 says he doesn’t show. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B (for sale - NCC-1701-C is under contract)
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:41 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  
wrote:

I will be there!  I will buy the first round!
 
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:01 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Stus-List Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat Festival
 
Driving to Mystic Seaport this weekend for the Wooden Boat Festival. 
The 12 1/2 Haven from the YouTube channel "Art of Boatbuilding" will be on 
display.
 
If anyone else is going, we might meet & share a pint at the Spouter Tavern.
 
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R
609-703-0790
 
 
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Stus-List Re: Steering cable

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Dave,

If your 34+ is anything like my 37+, you should not have to remove the 
pedestal. It’s tricky getting your hands in there to run the wire, but it is 
doable. Certainly a DIY job. The complete change took me about 2-3 hours.  

And yes, if you are starting to see the wire go, you should do the job sooner 
rather than later. Mine snapped in the middle of a race (luckily, I was in 
first place at the time with no boats around me, but it could have been a 
disaster.) 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B (for sale - NCC-1701-C is under contract)
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Aug 12, 2021, at 1:44 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

A friend at our yacht club had his steering cable snap the other day.  I had 
been planning a steering system lube and check for a few years and this 
motivated me to move it to the top of my priority list.  While I was lubing and 
checking yesterday, I found one spot with broken wires on the cable.  
1.  I was hoping to replace it in the Fall/Spring when the boat is out of the 
water.  Should I be more worried and plan to do it sooner?  There is plenty of 
intact cable, but I don’t know what causes these breaks and if they are an 
indication of imminent failure.
2.  the area under the pedestal is inaccessible without removing the pedestal.  
Obviously that is a big job, which I have never done.  Is it possible to 
replace the cable without removing the pedestal?  Would I be smart to hire 
someone to do this job (PITA for me, but easier for someone experienced)?
Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Re: 37+ Cockpit Shower

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Rocky,

Should be on the starboard side in the cockpit. The “backside” of it is inside 
the locker where your fuel fill is. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Aug 11, 2021, at 10:25 PM, rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
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You guys have a cockpit shower?! where the hell is it? 
I bet it's where my Autopilot head is on the port side? Heading to Bahamas next 
year would be nice to rinse.
thanks!


Rockland Bazemore
S/V Blue Pearl
C 37/40+
Port Washington, NY
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Stus-List Re: 1990 C 37/40+ -- Another Price Reduction

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Let’s talk, Joel. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Aug 7, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Joel Delamirande  wrote:



I would be a buyer 
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:25 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Listers,
> 
> As painful as it may be, I have dropped the price again for my 1990 C 
> 37/40+, the Starship Enterprise. Now at $53,900. 
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40--3829704/ 
> 
> WAY below market value. My last survey (April 2019) stated value at $85,000. 
> A lot of you know the boat. A lot of you even know this particular boat. 
> Other 37+s, with the original engine (mine has a 2015 Beta 30) have gone for 
> $65-$70K in the last couple of years. This is a steal. 
> 
> Why? I’m ready to pounce on the Enterprise-C, but I need this one sold first 
> (dock space is hard to come by down here these days — otherwise I’d be a 
> two-boat owner for a while.) So, I’d like to sell before the new boat goes to 
> someone else. 
> 
> I am VERY motivated. You would be amazed at how low I will go if it means an 
> ultra-quick sale. 
> 
> If you know anyone who is looking to upgrade from an older C or if you have 
> a friend who has been lusting after yours, this is a great opportunity.  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List 1990 C 37/40+ -- Another Price Reduction

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

As painful as it may be, I have dropped the price again for my 1990 C 37/40+, 
the Starship Enterprise. Now at $53,900. 
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40--3829704/ 
 

WAY below market value. My last survey (April 2019) stated value at $85,000. A 
lot of you know the boat. A lot of you even know this particular boat. Other 
37+s, with the original engine (mine has a 2015 Beta 30) have gone for $65-$70K 
in the last couple of years. This is a steal. 

Why? I’m ready to pounce on the Enterprise-C, but I need this one sold first 
(dock space is hard to come by down here these days — otherwise I’d be a 
two-boat owner for a while.) So, I’d like to sell before the new boat goes to 
someone else. 

I am VERY motivated. You would be amazed at how low I will go if it means an 
ultra-quick sale. 

If you know anyone who is looking to upgrade from an older C or if you have a 
friend who has been lusting after yours, this is a great opportunity.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL









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Stus-List Re: Intermittent stalling

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Tom,

It sounds to me like you have some "sludge” in the lines that is slowing the 
fuel flow. Replace the filters (Racor and the one on the engine), flush the 
lines as best you can, get all the air our of the system and see how that goes. 
It may be time for a fuel tank cleaning or fuel polishing. 

You can test your fuel pump by bleeding the system, which you’ll have to do 
once you change the filters. 

Lastly, there is the best solution for engine problems: Get the jib out. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Aug 3, 2021, at 11:35 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:

We are off on a two week cruise.  Second day running the engine starts to 
falter, then stall. I check the Racor, no water.  I did replace the fuel pump 
last year after we ran out of fuel w the fuel tank half full.  But it seemed to 
be fine.

She started and we stopped in a Edmonds to top off the tank, but it only took 7 
g.

She then ran pretty solid for the next 2 hours with only a few issues.

I have  not changed the fuel filters for about 150 hours over two years.

I am thinking that either the filters need replacing or the fuel pump just does 
not lift the fuel enough.

Any help is appreciated.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WAec
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660

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Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Danny,

I tried, but I think he’s heard every joke — didn’t even crack a smile. You can 
imagine how frustrating that was for me. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Jul 15, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Edd,
 
I can't believe Daryl Hall is selling your boat!  I guess with all the 
cancelled concerts he needed to make a little side cake!  Has he "lost that 
lovin' feeling?"  I bets it's good to have a "maneater" on the job!  Somebody 
stop me!
 
Danny

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Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:53:11 + (UTC)


Hey Edd--I love the boat you are selling--unfortunately when I bought my 36 
XL/kcb a new 37/40 kcb was out of my financial reach!!
 
Mine is a slightly smaller version of the 37/40 and has a very similar 
centerboard arrangement. Since I do mostly club racing in the relatively thin 
NC sounds/rivers, I would never consider glassing in the board(maybe if I 
stopped racing) although I know of others with C who have done this for the 
reasons you mention. I also agree that since both boats have a massive cb trunk 
(mine is about 4700 lbs), it sails pretty well with the board (~925 lbs) up or 
even glassed in.
 
OTOH, when I put my board down from 4.5 ft to 7.25 ft, she straightens right up 
and sails to weather at least 5 degrees closer to the wind--and if I and the 
crew are on our game, we are very seldom beaten to the weather mark in most 
breezes above 8 knots by any boat in our size/PHRF handicap range. Downwind, 
kite or not, we grind the board up (not easy or quick) and with decent  
spinnaker work or just flying a genoa with a whisker pole, again we are seldom 
passed (although we don't gain much either!). As you know, the cb trunk is both 
massive in length, weight and width so it adds significant wetted surface 
compared to a skinny (and deep) fin keel. I agree that there is some 
drag/turbulence from the cb slot but both our boards have an elliptical shape 
so that no matter how far the board is extended, it fully 'fills' the slot--as 
opposed to many cb boats with more or less rectangular boards that do not fill 
the slot with the board as the cb is dropped.
 
Since I haul her yearly for new bottom paint, and have the cb pennant replaced 
at ~5 year intervals, my added expense with the board is minimal. However, the 
yard must always do the board painting while it is hanging in travel lift--they 
have an aversion to having the board fully down, and the boat very high on jack 
stands! And most yards do not like to dig a hole so that the board can be 
extended either!
 
Good luck with your next boat!
 
 
 
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C 36 XL/kcb
 
 



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From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 4:07 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

Joel,
 
We sealed the board in and glassed the bottom, so she’s the world’s only 
shoal-draft model. 
 
4.9 feet of draft and we saw no change in performance. In fact, without the 
slot and drag, the boat actually sailed faster in anything under 10 knots of 
breeze and the same up to the 15-knot range. And, no headache of thousands of 
dollars of maintenance every several years (board maintenance requires a 
haul-out and time in the travel lift.) See: 
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3b_NHX1Rm0g/WZtCEYGgAUI/AAABmVY/iTwxeuxOcC0c6h5lOQN3Yyr-fbDcGD_rwCLcBGAs/s1600/centerboard.jpg
 
<https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3b_NHX1Rm0g/WZtCEYGgAUI/AAABmVY/iTwxeuxOcC0c6h5lOQN3Yyr-fbDcGD_rwCLcBGAs/s1600/centerboard.jpg>
 
 
If you really want to restore the board, any competent yard could do it. But, 
seriously, she sails better with it sealed in. 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 





 
 
 



On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

What kind of keel do u have now
And why take off the swings keel

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Edd

Stop it, you're killing the market!

Tom B
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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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At 11:47 AM 7/14/2021, you wrote:
Listers,

With my sights set on the next Enterprise and new adventures on the final 
frontier, I have dropped the price of my 1990 C 37/40+. 

Lots of great features, including new air conditioning, a Doyle Stack Pack, 
autopilot, Raymarine e95 chartplotter and a 2015 Beta 30 engine with 

Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Charlie,

Interesting. I’m not all that familiar with the 36XL, but it appears to be a 
design merger of the 1989-1990 34/36 series and the older 36’s.  Perhaps Rob 
Ball can shed some light. 

We raced this boat heavily and saw no difference in pointing in the 10-knot and 
under range, which was typical for Western LI Sound. In very heavy air (25+), 
we did see a slight difference, but even when the board was sealed in, the 37+ 
was still going through the chop better than the other boats who had to head 
off due to conditions. 

I initially sealed the board in to keep costs and headaches down, but was 
pleasantly surprised at how well the boat performed once the deed was done — in 
some cases better than when it wasn’t. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Jul 14, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hey Edd--I love the boat you are selling--unfortunately when I bought my 36 
XL/kcb a new 37/40 kcb was out of my financial reach!!

Mine is a slightly smaller version of the 37/40 and has a very similar 
centerboard arrangement. Since I do mostly club racing in the relatively thin 
NC sounds/rivers, I would never consider glassing in the board(maybe if I 
stopped racing) although I know of others with C who have done this for the 
reasons you mention. I also agree that since both boats have a massive cb trunk 
(mine is about 4700 lbs), it sails pretty well with the board (~925 lbs) up or 
even glassed in.

OTOH, when I put my board down from 4.5 ft to 7.25 ft, she straightens right up 
and sails to weather at least 5 degrees closer to the wind--and if I and the 
crew are on our game, we are very seldom beaten to the weather mark in most 
breezes above 8 knots by any boat in our size/PHRF handicap range. Downwind, 
kite or not, we grind the board up (not easy or quick) and with decent  
spinnaker work or just flying a genoa with a whisker pole, again we are seldom 
passed (although we don't gain much either!). As you know, the cb trunk is both 
massive in length, weight and width so it adds significant wetted surface 
compared to a skinny (and deep) fin keel. I agree that there is some 
drag/turbulence from the cb slot but both our boards have an elliptical shape 
so that no matter how far the board is extended, it fully 'fills' the slot--as 
opposed to many cb boats with more or less rectangular boards that do not fill 
the slot with the board as the cb is dropped.

Since I haul her yearly for new bottom paint, and have the cb pennant replaced 
at ~5 year intervals, my added expense with the board is minimal. However, the 
yard must always do the board painting while it is hanging in travel lift--they 
have an aversion to having the board fully down, and the boat very high on jack 
stands! And most yards do not like to dig a hole so that the board can be 
extended either!

Good luck with your next boat!



Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C 36 XL/kcb
 




-Original Message-
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 4:07 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

Joel,

We sealed the board in and glassed the bottom, so she’s the world’s only 
shoal-draft model. 

4.9 feet of draft and we saw no change in performance. In fact, without the 
slot and drag, the boat actually sailed faster in anything under 10 knots of 
breeze and the same up to the 15-knot range. And, no headache of thousands of 
dollars of maintenance every several years (board maintenance requires a 
haul-out and time in the travel lift.) See: 
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3b_NHX1Rm0g/WZtCEYGgAUI/AAABmVY/iTwxeuxOcC0c6h5lOQN3Yyr-fbDcGD_rwCLcBGAs/s1600/centerboard.jpg
 
<https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3b_NHX1Rm0g/WZtCEYGgAUI/AAABmVY/iTwxeuxOcC0c6h5lOQN3Yyr-fbDcGD_rwCLcBGAs/s1600/centerboard.jpg>
 

If you really want to restore the board, any competent yard could do it. But, 
seriously, she sails better with it sealed in. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

What kind of keel do u have now
And why take off the swings keel

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Edd

Stop it, you're killing the market!

Tom B
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SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com <http://www.sv-alera.com/> 




At 11:47 AM 7/14/2021, you wrote:
> Listers,
> 
> With my sights set on the next Enterprise and new adventures on the final 
> frontier, I have dropped the price of my 1990 C 37/40+. 
> 
> Lots of great features, including new air 

Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joel,

We sealed the board in and glassed the bottom, so she’s the world’s only 
shoal-draft model. 

4.9 feet of draft and we saw no change in performance. In fact, without the 
slot and drag, the boat actually sailed faster in anything under 10 knots of 
breeze and the same up to the 15-knot range. And, no headache of thousands of 
dollars of maintenance every several years (board maintenance requires a 
haul-out and time in the travel lift.) See: 
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3b_NHX1Rm0g/WZtCEYGgAUI/AAABmVY/iTwxeuxOcC0c6h5lOQN3Yyr-fbDcGD_rwCLcBGAs/s1600/centerboard.jpg
 

 

If you really want to restore the board, any competent yard could do it. But, 
seriously, she sails better with it sealed in. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:

What kind of keel do u have now
And why take off the swings keel

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Edd

Stop it, you're killing the market!

Tom B
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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com  




At 11:47 AM 7/14/2021, you wrote:
> Listers,
> 
> With my sights set on the next Enterprise and new adventures on the final 
> frontier, I have dropped the price of my 1990 C 37/40+. 
> 
> Lots of great features, including new air conditioning, a Doyle Stack Pack, 
> autopilot, Raymarine e95 chartplotter and a 2015 Beta 30 engine with just 
> under 500 hours. 
> 
> If you know anyone looking to get into a great boat that’s built for 
> cruising and/or racing, priced now at $59,000, please have them contact me. 
> 
> Here is a link to the listing: 
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40--3829704/ 
>  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

With my sights set on the next Enterprise and new adventures on the final 
frontier, I have dropped the price of my 1990 C 37/40+. 

Lots of great features, including new air conditioning, a Doyle Stack Pack, 
autopilot, Raymarine e95 chartplotter and a 2015 Beta 30 engine with just under 
500 hours. 

If you know anyone looking to get into a great boat that’s built for cruising 
and/or racing, priced now at $59,000, please have them contact me. 

Here is a link to the listing: 
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40--3829704/ 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











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Stus-List Re: Accessing A/C unit behind stairs of a 37/40+

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

Unless yours are different, there are some screws holding it in place at the 
top. Then they should just lift out. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Jun 16, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Hello all,

I have to get to the air conditioning unit mounted behind the companionway 
stairs on our 1994 C 37/40+.  The A/C unit is trapped in there with only side 
access.  Has anyone had to disassemble those stairs to get at things, and if 
so, do you have any suggestions or guidance?

Thanks!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List Re: Gooseneck fitting source?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

If you like, I can sell you mine. I’ll make you a great deal. 

Boat included in purchase price. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











On Jun 14, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Looks like an 'Offshore Spars' gooseneck so try this one: 
https://store.offshorespars.com/products/offshore-spars-1-2in-gooseneck-swivel?_pos=1&_sid=d778c22d9&_ss=r
 


Ken H.

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 17:18, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

Our gooseneck fitting is starting to wear, and the holes in it where the bolt 
fits down the center vertically are starting to wear egg-shaped.  You can see a 
photo here:  

https://www.dropbox.com/s/re5kalfn9slfidr/Gooseneck%20Fitting.jpg?dl=0 


Does anyone know where to get a new fitting?

In the alternative, could I take it to a local weder and have it filled and 
re-drilled, or would you think that would be unwise for some reason?

Thanks in advance for your insights,

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 2'x8' sheet of smoke grey 3/16th plexi in MD

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Josh,

When I redid mine, I got them from Interstate Plastics. Shipping was pricy, 
mostly due to the distance and the overall size. I don’t know if it was as much 
as you were quoted, but that was some time ago. 

All the best, 

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Jun 14, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:


I checked piedmont but they also have to order it and simply forward the 
exorbitant freight charges to me.  I would have to buy a 4x8 sheet from them.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 13:34 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Does maritime plastics still exist?
> 
>  
> 
> J
> 
>  
> 
> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 11:23 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 2'x8' sheet of smoke grey 3/16th plexi in MD
> 
>  
> 
> Hi all
> 
>  
> 
> I've used Read Plastics in Rockville Md for a source in the past. I believe 
> they have been sold to Piedmont recently, but still are at the same location 
> and still handle polycarbonate and other sheet plastics.
> 
> I've also used Maritime Plastics in Aannapolis as well
> 
> 
> Don Wagner
> 
> Shady Side Md
> 
>  
> 
> C 41 CB 
> 
> Der Baron
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: John Conklin 
> Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 9:43 am
> Subject: Stus-List Re: 2'x8' sheet of smoke grey 3/16th plexi in MD
> 
> Josh,
> 
> I am desperate to do my windows on my 37!  Not sure when I will get to it as 
> I will need some help doing some crazing repair and whatever develops when I 
> pop em out 
> 
> But pretty the plexi  won’t go bad!
> 
> :)
> 
>  
> 
> John Conklin 
> 
> S/V Halcyon 
> 
> S/V Heartbeat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 6:03 AM, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> There also has to be a local supplier, I live in a small-ish city (400k 
> people) and can name at least 3 places that sell plastic sheets.
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
> On 2021-06-14 6:51 a.m., Nathan Post via CnC-List wrote:
> 
> Hi Josh,
> 
> If none of your windows are longer than 4' you may find it more economical to 
> purchase from McMasterCarr even though the material does cost more.  I bought 
> 3'x4'x1/4" https://www.mcmaster.com/8505K739-8505K962/ for $130 + ~$30 
> shipping here in MA which was enough to do all 4 windows on my C 34 (they 
> also have 3/16" if you want to go thinner 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/8505K733-8505K862/ for $105).  It also arrives 
> quickly (often the next day for me) even with ground shipping since they are 
> here on the east coast.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> S/V Wisper
> 
> 1981 C 34
> 
> Lynn MA
> 
>  
> 
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 11:54 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm about to buy the plexi for the windows on my boat.  Looks like I'm going 
> to have to order it from California and the shipping is going to be 
> ridiculously expensive.  $150 for the glass and $130 for the shipping.  I'm 
> pretty sure that a larger sheet and or multiple sheets will be proportionally 
> less and less expensive.  If someone would like me to coordinate buying a 
> larger sheet to share, or more than 1 sheets, I'd be happy to do so.  You'd 
> have to arrange pickup or delivery from my house.  I need to get this ordered 
> quickly so speak up if you're interested.
> 
>  
> 
> Josh Muckley 
> 
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 
> 1989 C 37+
> 
> Solomons, MD 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Main Halyard Dilemma

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Agreed. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:32 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  
wrote:


Pull harder. If you break it it should be replaced anyway

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:17 PM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the 
> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and 
> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it down 
> it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull it back 
> up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to make sure 
> it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the main halyard 
> down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a suggestion or 
> solution in mind?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
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Stus-List Re: Bilge pump outflow

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Dean,

That would depend on where the Y connection is located — If it is after the 
vented loop, then you should be all right. Otherwise whatever gets pumped out 
of one pump will likely flow back through the other one. 

If you are going to put the Y closer to the pumps, you should install check 
valves so flow only goes one way. However, check the specifications on your 
pumps as some do not recommend using a check valve. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Jun 3, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Dean McNeill via CnC-List  
wrote:

On my C 34, I have a non-automatic bilge pump in the well next to the mast 
holder. It’s old and back flows about gallon (maybe an exaggeration!) of water 
back into the bilge once it shuts off. I’m replacing it and expect I can just 
attach the new bilge pump to the existing outflow piping. My question is, if I 
wanted to install a second one (automatic one), slightly higher in same area, 
Do I need an entirely new outflow and thru-hull or can I join it with a ‘Y’ 
connector to the same pipe as the first bilge pump… so they would each use same 
pipe/thru-hull?

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Stus-List Re: 4 pointed star vector file?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Adobe Illustrator File: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nr4el3tjrp9bzl1/cc-stars.ai?dl=0 
Scalable Vector Graphic (svg): 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/720x97vm25m7ehi/cc-stars.svg?dl=0 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On May 24, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

Ken,

I post links to the C list so that everyone can use it. 

Even Risch. 

It’ll be later today, though. Work stuff first :-( 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL






On May 24, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Ken Heaton mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Edd,

I'd like to have a copy of that too if possible?

Ken H.

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 09:45, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Dave,

I have Adobe Illustrator and can make that for you later today. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On May 23, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Dave S via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

‘Evening all.

Does anyone happen to have a vector file of the old logo’s 4 pointed star?   
Getting new graphics and I thin this might be a cool addition.  

Many thanks.  

Dave 33-2 Windstar.
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Stus-List Re: 4 pointed star vector file?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Ken,

I post links to the C list so that everyone can use it. 

Even Risch. 

It’ll be later today, though. Work stuff first :-( 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL






On May 24, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Ken Heaton  wrote:

Hi Edd,

I'd like to have a copy of that too if possible?

Ken H.

On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 09:45, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Dave,

I have Adobe Illustrator and can make that for you later today. 

All the best, 

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
———-
914.774.9767   | Mobile
———-
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On May 23, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Dave S via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

‘Evening all.

Does anyone happen to have a vector file of the old logo’s 4 pointed star?   
Getting new graphics and I thin this might be a cool addition.  

Many thanks.  

Dave 33-2 Windstar.
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Stus-List Re: 4 pointed star vector file?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Dave,

I have Adobe Illustrator and can make that for you later today. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
———-
914.774.9767   | Mobile
———-
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On May 23, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:

‘Evening all.

Does anyone happen to have a vector file of the old logo’s 4 pointed star?   
Getting new graphics and I thin this might be a cool addition.  

Many thanks.  

Dave 33-2 Windstar.
Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Re: Stu's Zoom meeting

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

What a shock. Risch is a no-show for a C Rendezvous….. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Apr 23, 2021, at 1:15 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  
wrote:

Ugh.  Missed it.  Was it recorded?

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:03:01 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Stu's Zoom meeting
 
Hi Stu,
 
Just wanted to thank you for tonight's zoom meeting.  It was fun to see fellow 
C'ers and JohnKelly's show and tell.  
Interesting to see that big tow model of Evergreen and the sailing dinghy, 
Water Rat, and hear his stories about his Dad. 
 
Thanks Stu for taking the time to do these Zoom meetings and I hope everyone 
gets a chance to join one and meet other owners and share their unique stories. 
 It's a great community.
 
Chuck
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Stus-List Re: Removing lettering

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Neil,

Heat gun to get all the vinyl off, then some Goo Gone or Acetone with a little 
elbow grease to clear away the remaining glue. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Apr 21, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
wrote:

Oh great and powerful list .  I need to remove some lettering (adhesive) to 
change my home port, etc. 

Suggestions?

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800
From: Dave S via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:26:41 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Glassing Over Instrument Holes Through Double Bulkheads
 
I had a look at that video - not a bad approach,  would add that it’s easier to 
layup the disks and other patches each onto a sheet of waxed paper then lift 
that into place rather than lifting the messy epoxy patch itself.  If you are 
making 4 patches, stack 4 sheets of waxed paper in your layupboard before you 
start.   Put the precut glass in the stack too, you avoid handling things with 
sticky gloves. It’s also easier to lay up multiple layers on the 
board/paper than doing one at a time. 
When I updated the instruments on Windstar I replaced two B displays with one 
ray marine, leaving one hole.  I elected not to fill the extra hole but made a 
plexiglass cover the same shape and footprint of the new instrument.  It’s 
ready should I wish to add a second display,  it looks fine to me and was a lot 
less work. 
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Electrical%20and%20Electronics?updated-max=2020-09-01T06:50:00-04:00=20=5=false=1
 


Remember also that epoxy will stick to polyester but the reverse isn’t true - 
should you wish to use gelcoat to finish the repair you should bear this in 
mind.  I’ve always felt that once you start painting the deck or mixing 
materials you were heading down a slippery cosmetic slope. 

Dave 33-2 windstar 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 21, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Another option, if it makes sense both inside the boat and outside in the 
> location where the instruments are coming out, is to install a small port 
> (window).
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:25, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Glass over the outside hole, and hang a picture over the inside. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> 
> Doug Mountjoy
> Port Orchard YC
> Port Orchard,  WA
> Rebecca Leah
> 1988 LF39 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Randal Stafford via CnC-List  >
> Date: 4/20/21 14:39 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Randal Stafford  >
> Subject: Stus-List Glassing Over Instrument Holes Through Double Bulkheads
> 
> Listers-
> 
> Grenadine is getting an instrument system update this year and, as part of 
> that, I’ll eventually want to glass over previous instrument holes in the aft 
> cabin wall.
> 
> Last night I watched this video https://youtu.be/T4OHQDs8NKk 
> , which is good, but seems to assume only a 
> single bulkhead - i.e. the “liner” inside the cabin is not there, or is cut 
> away (such as in the video) providing access to the inside of the fiberglass 
> cabin wall.
> 
> Does anyone here know how to neatly glass over the hole in both the exterior 
> wall and the interior liner?  If there’s no good / easy / neat way to do it, 
> I’ll follow the video above for the exterior wall, then just cover the hole 
> in the liner with a screwed-on piece of teak.
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Re: Hydraulic backstay adjuster pressure?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

You may find this article interesting: 
https://www.sailingworld.com/getting-most-from-your-backstay/ 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Apr 18, 2021, at 2:05 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello all

 With all of the discussions about hydraulic backstay adjusters, and mine being 
fixed (finally), where do most of you keep and use the pressure?  At the dock 
vs. sailing and under what conditions?  

Thanks!

Bruce Whitmore 
1994 C 37/40+
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Stus-List Re: Internet on the boat

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joel,

I don’t have anything that connects to internet far offshore, but in most 
places I cruise, my iPhone picks up 5G service which I then tether via hotspot 
to my laptop or to a WiFi repeater I have on board (if you ever see a WiFi 
network named “Starfleet Subspace”, look for my boat!)

5G is fast enough for Zoom and weather, though video may get a little jumpy. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
———-
914.774.9767   | Mobile
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On Apr 14, 2021, at 7:57 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Good afternoon gentlemen 
Does anyone have internet on the boat  powerful to get zoom and weather 
Does it work off shore
Joel
-- 
Joel Delamirande

www.jdroofing.ca

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Stus-List Re: Even More Atomic 4 Troubles

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Wow!! Mike Macdonald is on the C list!!?? 

Takin’ it to the Streets, What a Fool Believes, Real Love, Sweet Freedom — 
#DoobieBrothers! 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Apr 12, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Mike Macdonald via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Where did the boat spend the winter?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Lee Goss via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ahoy!
> 
> When our C MK.1 was taken out of the water last season the engine was 
> left running... until it eventually just stopped.
> 
> We've just tried starting it for the first time using a bucket of water, and 
> whilst we did get it running; it doesn't sound like it use to!
> 
> Could anyone familiar with Atomic 4's please listen to these videos and let 
> me know your thoughts?
> 
> Link to videos:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19oxLLMBcHKWucEAp5QbH19TYT_PR7eEn?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Lee 
> C 29 MK.1 
> Lake Michigan 
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Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Danny,

So sorry for the name mixup. Please don’t get offended unless I call you “David 
Risch” 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Edd,
 
That was me, Danny, that mentioned the interest down there
 
Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:36:43 -0400


Jeff,

 
Buy now — prices are going up, up, up! 
 
Happy to hear. Though still relatively new here, I do have a pretty good “lay 
of the land” and will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course) — 
and always happy to help out a fellow C’er. 
 
And I’m not planning to go anywhere list-wise. 
All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 
 
 
 

On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. 
 I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different 
type of vessel.  
 
Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well!  

-- Original Message --
From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" mailto:jlam...@outlook.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 +

 
Thought this was a C sailboat list?
 
Jeff Laman
1981 C Harmony
Ludington, MI
 
 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
 
Joe,
 
Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there 
were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of 
levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels 
purely from a maintenance and safety level. 
 
Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my 
eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the 
Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too 
small.)
 
Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day 
trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even 
the Bahamas. 
 
I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be 
compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a 
less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it 
drops the anchor. 
 
Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new 
worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will 
not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I 
won’t need to take extra time off. 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 



On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not 
meet expectations if you had a C for very long.
I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got 
a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them.
Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" 
and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things 
necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and 
"economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 
55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was 
going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for 
bachelor parties - cruising not so much.
Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any 
sailboat without going much faster.

Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

Look at the Sabre Salons.  

Dennis C. 

On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Danny,

Possibly, but it woul

Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Jeff,

Buy now — prices are going up, up, up! 

Happy to hear. Though still relatively new here, I do have a pretty good “lay 
of the land” and will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course) — 
and always happy to help out a fellow C’er. 

And I’m not planning to go anywhere list-wise. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:

It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. 
 I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different 
type of vessel.  
 
Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all goes well!  

-- Original Message --
From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 +


Thought this was a C sailboat list?
 
Jeff Laman
1981 C Harmony
Ludington, MI
 
 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
 
Joe,
 
Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there 
were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of 
levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels 
purely from a maintenance and safety level. 
 
Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my 
eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the 
Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too 
small.)
 
Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day 
trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even 
the Bahamas. 
 
I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be 
compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a 
less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it 
drops the anchor. 
 
Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new 
worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will 
not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I 
won’t need to take extra time off. 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 



On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not 
meet expectations if you had a C for very long.
I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got 
a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them.
Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" 
and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things 
necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and 
"economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 
55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was 
going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for 
bachelor parties - cruising not so much.
Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any 
sailboat without going much faster.

Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

Look at the Sabre Salons.  

Dennis C. 

On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Danny,

Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a 
sedan bridge with diesels. 

All the best, 

Edd


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Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joe,

Thanks. We’ve looked at quite a few boats over the past few months and there 
were several that we didn’t like, whether it’s the style, layout, number of 
levels, engines, etc. I’m not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels 
purely from a maintenance and safety level. 

Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126’s has really caught my 
eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the 
Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board one — may be too 
small.)

Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day 
trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even 
the Bahamas. 

I’m well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be 
compromises and disappointments, but I’m looking to transition into a 
less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it 
drops the anchor. 

Now that we are here in Florida for good, we can’t wait to explore strange new 
worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations…. And, our Prime Directive will 
not change — Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly — I just want to be at a speed that I 
won’t need to take extra time off. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I would agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not 
meet expectations if you had a C for very long.
I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day and unless they got 
a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C being happy with them.
Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" 
and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither one of those things 
necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have short lifespans and 
"economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 
55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot calibrations. I think I was 
going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout and décor seemed ideal for 
bachelor parties - cruising not so much.
Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any 
sailboat without going much faster.

Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:39 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

Look at the Sabre Salons.  

Dennis C. 

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Danny,
> 
> Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a 
> sedan bridge with diesels. 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Danny,

Possibly, but it would have to be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a 
sedan bridge with diesels. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Danny via CnC-List  wrote:


Edd,
Are you getting a trawler too? 

Danny

On Mar 29, 2021 7:31 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List  
wrote:
Joe, 
Are you going to need a centre board keel? What about air draft, is that a 
factor? Going south and need tankage? Edd may have exactly what you need and 
you could eBay all the Star Trek action figures you find under the cushions! If 
you keep all the 7 of 9 Jeri Ryan ones we would understand! All kidding aside 
the 37/40 is a more modern layout than the 40 & 41 but there are exceptions. 
The 41 still catches my eye every time I see one, I just can’t help it! 

Len Mitchell
S/V Crazy Legs
1989 C 37+
Midland On. 

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Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joe,

You really should take a look at the 37/40+.

You may really like the boat and I may sell it for lower than you think. :-)  

All the best,

Edd


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C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Is there any clear advantage to the 41 over the 40 or vice versa?
Thanks!
 
Joe
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Stus-List Re: RayMarine dealer

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Fred Street, if he’s still around. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Mar 28, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
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Do we have a RayMarine dealer on this list?
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
 
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Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Wow, David. That Gulfstar 49 MY is a serious long-range cruiser. 

Just think about all the rendezvous that you could not show up to. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Mar 21, 2021, at 10:10 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
wrote:


We have a Gulfstar 49 Motor Yacht under agreement.  Stay tuned.  

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.

From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 9:41:13 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous
 
Being a New Mysterian, sin is not something I worry much about, but here is my 
(lack of) confession.  
C 34+, Force 5, Sunfish, 2 windsurfers.  
I did buy a new outboard for my dinghy last year, so my hands have a bit of oil 
on them.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:30 AM, jim schwartz via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> It appears that we are all confessing... my 38 land fall SEA YA !
> has been replaced with SEA YA ! II ...
> A marine trader Tradewinds 43..a trawler.!!
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Me too. My second boat is a Herreshoff 12 1/2. Oh wait, that’s a sailboat. 
> But I do have a Cape Dory 14, oh wait...
> I guess I *am* totally without sin...in that regard, anyway.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 08:26, John Conklin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Guilty of owning a 21 Ft Console console. I can Be Beaufort NC for lunch in 
> 35-40  Min VS close to 4 Hrs on Halcyon
> Runs great ! :) 
> 
> John Conklin
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not started my Boston Whaler since December. Can I get a 3 month coin 
>> or something?
>>  
>> Joe
>>  
>> From: Matthew via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:01 PM
>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>> Cc: Matthew 
>> Subject: Stus-List Now stink boaters anonymous
>>  
>> Hi, Pete.  My name’s Matt, and I own a Pursuit 18 center console outboard.  
>> But it’s for the kids, I swear. 
>>  
>> From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:03 PM
>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>> Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 40
>>  
>> I feel safe now.  
>>  
>> Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Stus-List Re: Corsair...

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Whoa. 

What just happened?? 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Mar 20, 2021, at 8:48 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
wrote:


My 1981 C & C 40-2 may be available for sale.   Let me know if interested.
 
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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bill,

IMO — There are not many TVs and DVD players that can really hold up to marine 
weather unless you are running dehumidifiers all the time. Also, those digital 
antennas will get you some stations, but not a whole lot. 

Suggest you look into an iPad or other big tablet — there are mounts galore on 
Amazon for mounting in the cabin, you can watch or stream movies off the 
internet, and you’ll have another device for navigation, internet, and, in some 
cases, a repeater/control for your marine electronics. 

We use my iPad air to watch movies and TV (My cable service at home comes with 
free streaming so I can watch anything on the iPad that I can at home, 
including off the home DVR) and I put magnetic mounts in the main saloon and in 
the aft cabin over the bed. 

On our last cruise, we had a beautiful night, sat out in the cockpit and 
watched (big surprise) 2009’s "Star Trek”. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:32 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital antenna 
to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.
Anybody tackled this?  Issues I haven't thought about?  
Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi.
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 40

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Tom,

I’m well aware of that. I worry that once I make the change, Stu may kick me 
off the list. 

And if that does happen, someone else will need to step up and give David Risch 
crap so that there’s no void. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much 
> the Enterprise-B sells for. 
> 
> Big winds and big seas aren’t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida 
> and we’d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, 
> the Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get 
> there. As Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be 
> great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving 
> before sunrise :-)
> 
> I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
> that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the 
> Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 
> 
> I’m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
> docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesn’t have them), 
> especially since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to 
> pull in — I couldn’t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 40

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas aren’t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
we’d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

I’m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesn’t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldn’t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote:

I get the time issue. I am curious what you are looking at. What I found with 
the small fast powerboats I had was I could get a long way very quickly and 
then be utterly miserable getting home when the wind came up. You might make 
100 miles between breakfast and lunch and then take 3 days to get home.
I had to deliver a Krogen 40 once and that was kind of cool, it would chug 
along at 7-8 knots in pretty much any weather you would want to be out in. We 
got kinda interested in having a Dyer 29 as a high speed touring boat, they’ll 
run 15-20 knots economically in some pretty nasty weather and have enough room 
to sleep 2 and have a useable head that isn’t under a bunk, but the recent 
price run-up has put that idea out of reach for now.
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 
 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:37 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Adam Hayden ; Edd Schillay 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
 
Adam,
 
I’m still working full time and we want to explore more of Florida and beyond 
without having to take weeks off to do it. That, along with a few health 
issues, means it’s time for, if you pardon the term, The Next Generation of the 
Enterprise. 
 
There will be an Enterprise-C for certain, but it’s looking more and more 
doubtful she’ll be a sailboat.  I know it’s the wrong franchise, but we may be 
going over to The Dark Side. 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 





   
 



 
On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Adam Hayden via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
 
Ed
 
 
You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?
 
Adam
 
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40
 
Joe,
 
Perhaps you should think about a newer model C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?
 
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
<https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/> 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 










 



 
On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
 
Would buying a C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Adam,

I’m still working full time and we want to explore more of Florida and beyond 
without having to take weeks off to do it. That, along with a few health 
issues, means it’s time for, if you pardon the term, The Next Generation of the 
Enterprise. 

There will be an Enterprise-C for certain, but it’s looking more and more 
doubtful she’ll be a sailboat.  I know it’s the wrong franchise, but we may be 
going over to The Dark Side. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Adam Hayden via CnC-List  
wrote:

Ed


You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?

Adam

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 40
 
Joe,

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
<https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/> 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL















On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Would buying a C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joe,

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Would buying a C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
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Kent Island MD USA
 
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Stus-List Re: Rendezvous

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bill,

It was great to e-meet you. 

No worries about dropping the connection. At least you attended!

(Unlike David Risch) 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Mar 3, 2021, at 12:52 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
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Guys,  my apologies for leaving the Zoom meeting last night without saying 
goodbye...I got a message on my computer that my internet was unstable (not me, 
my internet) and then it just quite.
Hope to join again in the future. Encourage others to do so too.
Thanks Stu for hosting.
Bill Walker 
Evening Star
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi.
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

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Stil would like Tuesday. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Feb 25, 2021, at 3:07 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
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Friday better for me
 
Chuck Scheaffer
> On 02/25/2021 11:33 AM Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
>  
>  
> Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?
>  
> Stay safe and healthy
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

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Stu,

Tuesday works for me, but not Wednesday. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Is anyone interested in a virtual Zoom rendezvous next week – say Tues or Wed 
nite?
 
Stay safe & healthy
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Stus-List Re: Broken rod rigging attachment for babystay deck at keel - 37/40+

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

I believe the rod is a connection from the baby stay track to the keel.  If 
your baby stay is disconnected (as mine is), I don’t think there is any force 
on that rod. 

I’ve never experienced any pumping and I’ve sailed the Enterprise is all kinds 
of conditions. 

I think you can sail without it - as long as you disconnect the baby stay from 
the track. 

But I could be wrong. Another possibility is that you should total the boat and 
buy another, one that is about 70 miles south of you :-). 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Feb 16, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List  
wrote:


Hello Bruce!  I was told the baby stay’s primary function was to mitigate mast 
pumping in a seaway and/or from harmonics. Secondary function to assist mast 
bend. I know C skippers who don’t use it. I believe mine has a padeye bolted 
or screwed into the sump and a turnbuckle to adjust. Not structural...only to 
anchor the track if used. 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 7:08 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Guessing the plate is bolted in and the glass over it is not structural.  
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 6:58 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>> Ahh...   Of course.  
>> 
>> I had not thought of that.  
>> 
>> Have any of you had to do this repair, and do you know how the rod is 
>> connected to the keel stub?
>> 
>> As a bit of background, the 1/4" stainless rod rig material is attached to 
>> the underside of the deck with a 1/4" x 1.5" x 3" stainless plate with two 
>> 3/8" stainless screws/bolts.   I am presuming a similar stainless plate was 
>> fiberglassed in place at the keel.  As of now, I can't really see it, but I 
>> will be able to get to it.  I am thinking I can grind it down a bit to get 
>> to clean fiberglass, get a replacement 1/2" threaded rod, tap a hole into a 
>> replacement stainless plate and get a welder additionally weld the rod in 
>> place so it doesn't move (untwist).  From there, fiberglass it in place. 
>> 
>> I can then use the existing rod and under-deck attachment.
>> 
>> Am I missing something?
>> 
>> Is there any particular trick to the fiberglassing?  How many layers of 
>> cloth would you use?
>> 
>> Thanks!!!
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 1994 C 37/40+
>> "Astralis"
>> Madeira Beach, FL
>> (847) 404-5092
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 2:47 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>>> Bruce,
>>> 
>>> If you have turning blocks attached to the deck I would be careful, as the 
>>> rod counteracts the upward force of the halyards.  If they are attached to 
>>> the mast, I would think you are OK.
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
>>> 
-- 


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Stus-List Re: adding pictures to posts

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bob,

The best way is through Flickr, Google Drive or Dropbox account using links. 

Like this photo of C Yachts designer Rob Ball checking out the Enterprise in 
Mystic, likely thinking “What did this geek do to my great design?": 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdlqr438yyab1c9/Ball.png?dl=0 
 

All the best,

Edd


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On Jan 21, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Bob Mann via CnC-List  
wrote:

What's the best way to show pictures of what we're talking about? Is there a 
place to post them, separate from the list?  Can pictures be attached to posts?
 
Bob Mann
Mystic 
'71 C 35 mk I
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Stus-List Re: Transporting

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I recommend a Mark XII Transporter with pattern enhancers, a matter-stream 
target lock, as well as both the Heisenberg Compensator and all bio filters 
enabled. 

Energize…. 

(Be honest, you were expecting this response from me….)

All the best,

Edd


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On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List  
wrote:

Highly recommend Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport.  In Port Washington, 
WI.
https://www.greatlakesmarineservices.com/ourteam.htm 


Jim did a stellar job moving my boat from Georgia to Michigan's UP.  


Chuck Saur

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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Mike,

The first thing to check is if the water is salt water or “fresh" water. If 
it’s fresh water, check your hatches and windows for leaks, as well as all of 
the places where you have deck controls attached to the boat (it could be a 
leak in one of your jib tracks or the traveler or along your toe rail. 

The best way to check where is to grab a bucket full of water and pour it over 
your hatches, deck fittings and sections of your toe rail - then see if your 
bilge is affected. 

Another possibility is condensation/moisture.

If its salt water, it’s most likely the keel joints or your stuffing box.  

All the best,

Edd


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On Jan 19, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
some suggestions.

I have had my C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch. 

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C smile, etc.  It looks perfect. 

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.

Any ideas on the source of water??

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

Mike
Atacama, Toronto
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Stus-List Re: Acid flushing heat exchanger?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

There are a few marine Diesel engine maintenance books out there, and your 
engine manual may have enough info on that alone. 

To check the tube stack, you’ll need to remove the end caps and slide it out. 
Do a check for corrosion and clean. If you see corrosion or holes, replace it 
($200-300). Replace the o-rings on the end caps as well. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Jan 13, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
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Hi Edd, 

I've owned the boat for 4 years, have replaced the coolant twice,  and have 
checked the mixing elbow a couple times.  I have never checked/cleaned the heat 
exchanger.  I'm not quite sure what you mean by the tube stack?

Is there a good source of information as to the proper maintenance procedures?

Thanks!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 8:29 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:
> Bruce,
> 
> How long has it been since you last cleaned the exchanger, checked the tube 
> stack and replaced the coolant? 
> 
> It should be done at least once every five years, including replacing the 
> o-rings. 
> 
> Barnacle Buster is a good product, especially down here, but not to be used 
> instead of normal maintenance. 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ———-
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> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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> On Jan 13, 2021, at 7:48 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
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> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I am in the Tampa area and have a Yanmar 3JH2E in our C  I'm not having 
> any problems at the moment, but given the warm seawater here that tends to 
> grow barnacles and such, would you recommend proactively flushing the heat 
> exchanger?  I am considering using Barnacle Buster.
> 
> Thanks for the insights,
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C 37/40+
> "Astralis"
> Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List Re: Acid flushing heat exchanger?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

How long has it been since you last cleaned the exchanger, checked the tube 
stack and replaced the coolant? 

It should be done at least once every five years, including replacing the 
o-rings. 

Barnacle Buster is a good product, especially down here, but not to be used 
instead of normal maintenance. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Hello all,

I am in the Tampa area and have a Yanmar 3JH2E in our C  I'm not having any 
problems at the moment, but given the warm seawater here that tends to grow 
barnacles and such, would you recommend proactively flushing the heat 
exchanger?  I am considering using Barnacle Buster.

Thanks for the insights,

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092
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Stus-List Re: Happy New Year

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Happy New Year, everyone. Hope you’re all enjoying your New Years Day a/k/a 
National Hangover Day. 

Happy New Year! And Happy National Hangover Day! https://t.co/3hm3L3J02g

All the best, 

Edd

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On Jan 1, 2021, at 6:57 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
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Hi all,
 
Hope you all had a nice celebration last night and the hang overs weren't too 
bad.  We rarely drive on New Year's Eve, but this year made a short trip to my 
brother-in-laws for an outdoor buffet, bon fire, making smores and enjoying 
fireworks.  
 
Here's wishing you all a better year in 2021.  
 
Chuck S
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Stus-List Re: Wishing you and yours

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Seasons greetings from Suncoast USA — Sarasota. 

We are supposed to get a severe drop in temperature for a couple of days - 
highs in the mid 50s — the news is calling it a “polar blast”. 

Best wishes to all for a joyous holiday along with a happy and healthy (and 
breezy) new year. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Dec 24, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
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Add my good wishes from here in St. Louis, where the bottom just dropped out 
and we went from 60F yesterday to twenties today with a wind chill of 7F.
Reminds me that I didn't put antifreeze in the bilge yet.
Thanks Stu for providing something as wonderful as this list.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
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Stus-List Re: Americas Cup 12 Meters

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

A truly horrible film. 

Home of the Whomper. 

All the best,

Edd


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On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:16 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 wrote:

There was a 1992 movie made about the Americas Cup in twelve meters that is 
fictional but well filmed.  Francis Ford Copula put it together.  I found it is 
available on both Netflix and Amazon or you can order the DVD from Amazon.  
Here's the trailer for "Wind".
 
https://www.netflixmovies.com/wind-1992 

 
C
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Stus-List Re: We are not sleeping

[Edd Schillay]

Chuck,

Yes, except it’s the Prada World Series now. New Zealand won, American Magic 
took second. 

The “Christmas” Race is tonight (1am ET)

All the best, 

Edd

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On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:40 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER  wrote:


I missed the Americas Cup stuff.  Is this the Louis Vitton series to select the 
challenger?  The real Cup races are next year.
 
Chuck
 
 
> On 12/19/2020 7:48 PM Tom Buscaglia  wrote:
>  
>  
> Actually. I was sleeping...;)
> 
> While I'm awake, is anyone else been watching the America's Cup world series 
> races?  Those foiling monohulls really haulass...
> 
> https://youtu.be/zSt1Dj9tPRc
> 
> Tom B
> 
> At 02:53 PM 12/19/2020, you wrote:
>> Thanks Stu.  I wondered about that. 
>>   
>> I'm watching the coverage of the Vendee Globe and getting ready for Santa.   
>> Charal which had to return to Le Sables de Olonne and restart, has caught up 
>> to the fleet and passed some of the boats.  Sam Davies restarted from Cape 
>> Town.  The leaders are passing New Zealand.   
>>   
>> Made a huge batch of chili during the big snow storm to make a gift to 
>> friends.  
>>   
>> Also splicing new dyneema runners and checkstays for my boat. 
>>   
>> Chuck   
>>> On 12/19/2020 4:50 PM s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote: 
>>>   
>>>   
>>> 
>>> Just sending out a note to indicate to some people that the list is not as 
>>> active as usual but is still working. 
>>> 
>>> Stay safe & Healthy 
>>> 
>>> Seasons greetings 
>>> 
>>> Stu 
>>> 
>>>   
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> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
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Stus-List Re: New sails?????

[Edd Schillay]

Ted,

I would go with Doyle. Nothing beats having a local sailmaker to come out and 
measure and adjust after the sails are on — you may need to have a spreader 
patch moved, add tell tales, whatever. Local is best. 

All the best,

Edd


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C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Question to the group. 

I am getting a new set of cruising sails for our 40.   My choice is going to be 
between Doyle or Quantum. I have had Doyle sail before and their service and 
quality were great. Made in St.Pete Fl. right up the road. 100 miles. 
Quantum sails with almost identical specs comes in about 400 bucks lower but 
are made in Sri  Lanka. Service is relatively close on on the east coast of Fl. 
Given between the two, what might you buy. 
Has anybody had experience with the SriLanka sails. It's my understanding that 
several lofts and a lot of sails come from there. 

Thanks

Ted
S/V Ten-Ten
Punta Gorda, Fl. 

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Stus-List Re: Well - Here We Go . . . .

[Edd Schillay]

David,

Not quite sure just yet. 

… Just that there are plenty more letters left in the alphabet. 

All the best,

Edd


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On Dec 11, 2020, at 5:19 PM, David Risch  wrote:

Edd,
 
I don’t care what that saying says…I am sure you will be sad to see here go.  
What are the plans?
 
From: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>> 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 5:08 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Well - Here We Go . . . .
 
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
<https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/> 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 






 



 
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Stus-List Re: Used Garmin gear

[Edd Schillay]

Dave,

Which area’s charts are preloaded? 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
wrote:

Listers,

I have replaced an old, late-90’s era GPS on one of our boats. Obviously, it is 
dated technology with software and mapping no longer supported by Garmin, hence 
the reason for replacement. Listed below are the items.

Garmin GPSMAP 3210 (with charts)
Garmin GMS 10 Network Expander
Garmin GSD 22 Digital Remote Sounder
Associated cabling for all.

There is no sounder because it is being used for the new GPS unit. The GPS 
mushroom antenna is not available because rather than tear out a ton of 
interior woodwork, it will remain as a vestigial item on the mast.

I thought I’d put this out there in case someone might benefit from these 
items. If there is any interest let me know. All are available for shipping and 
a six-pack of good IPA.

Photos available upon request.

Regards,
Dave
1982 C 37 - Ronin
1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana


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Stus-List Re: Keel Bolt Sockets

[Edd Schillay]

I must be losing it. Can’t think of a single joke about David Risch’s nuts 
being too big. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Nov 27, 2020, at 4:08 PM, David Risch  wrote:


So I have a 1 7/8”  with  ¾” drive socket.   Still not deep enough for one of 
the keel bolts.  Need a 3” internal dimension.   Looked around and deep sockets 
are not that deep.  Any suggestions as to sourcing?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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Stus-List Re: steering wheel cover

[Edd Schillay]

I like the ColorWheelz service. Insulated from hot or cold, comfortable grip, 
variety of colors. 

https://scandiamarineproducts.fasterproductions.com/colorwheelz/ 
 

All the best,

Edd


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On Nov 27, 2020, at 10:10 AM, David Knecht  wrote:

The leather cover on my wheel has worth through and starting to come apart.  Do 
people have a favorite wheel covering material or system?  Do it yourself or 
commercial installation?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Re: All Good Things....

[Edd Schillay]

Joel,

Feel free to contact me off list (others too). 

e...@schillay.com

All the best, 

Edd

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On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Joel Delamirande  
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How much for your boat and more details 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:15 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Well damn! It seems like you just got to Florida.
> 
> Our next boat, if that ever happens, will have much better climate control. 
> My wife sadly has a chronic illness that makes temperature extremes and too 
> much sun not good things. At present my canvas is 100% required for her to be 
> happy, no shade no go.
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> She will be a great boat for someone, that is one of my favorite C models.
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> Joe
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> From: Edd Schillay  
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List All Good Things
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> Listers,
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> Based on several circumstances, I am now heavily considering putting my C 
> 37/40+ on the market. Before I go through the process of listing it with an 
> agent, if anyone knows of someone in the market for a 1990 model that has a 
> 2015 Beta 30 engine and many other upgrades over the last few years, please 
> have them reach out to me. I’ll make a final decision whether to sell or not 
> after Thankgsgiving, but I am leaning that direction.
> 
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> 
> As to what’s next, I can only refer you to a scene in the film “First 
> Contact” when the crew is evacuating the soon-to-be-destroyed Enterprise. In 
> that scene, Dr. Crusher asks Captain Picard if he thinks there will be 
> another. He replies, “Plenty of letters left in the alphabet."
> 
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> All the best,
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> Edd M. Schillay
> 
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> 
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
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> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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Stus-List All Good Things....

[Edd Schillay]

Listers,

Based on several circumstances, I am now heavily considering putting my C 
37/40+ on the market. Before I go through the process of listing it with an 
agent, if anyone knows of someone in the market for a 1990 model that has a 
2015 Beta 30 engine and many other upgrades over the last few years, please 
have them reach out to me. I’ll make a final decision whether to sell or not 
after Thankgsgiving, but I am leaning that direction.

As to what’s next, I can only refer you to a scene in the film “First Contact” 
when the crew is evacuating the soon-to-be-destroyed Enterprise. In that scene, 
Dr. Crusher asks Captain Picard if he thinks there will be another. He replies, 
“Plenty of letters left in the alphabet."

All the best,

Edd


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C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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Stus-List HIN on a 37+

[Edd Schillay]

Listers,

Anyone know where the HIN is stamped on a C 37/40+? 

All the best, 

Edd

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Stus-List Tapered Stanchion with Support?

[Edd Schillay]

Listers,

Anyone know a good source for a replacement tapered stanchion and angled 
support for my 37+? 

South Shore Yachts is out of stock and cannot get restocked for a month. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Stus-List Re: boat stuff for sale

[Edd Schillay]

Please be sure to trim your messages when replying to an email.Pete,

Which C do you have? What are your I and J measurements? 

I may be interested in one of your asyms. 

All the best,

Edd


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C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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On Oct 12, 2020, at 11:17 AM,  
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Please be sure to trim your messages when replying to an email.
All – 
2nd try at this listing.  I’m not sure what happened the first time, but it 
here goes again….
**
 
I have a few items for sale if anyone is interested; 
 
Cross cut dacron jib =48’10”x45’4”x16’ Good+ condition, #6 luff tape, $250
L/M #1 Dacron = 48’6” x48’x24’6” Good condition, #6 luff tape, $200
White asym spin = 55’6”x 47’6”x31’ Fair condition, $150
Green asym spin = 55’2”x 47’3”x 31’ Fair condition $150
White asym spin =55’6”x47’8”x31’  Fair condition $150
2x Barient 28 Non ST = $100 ea.
 
All prices +shipping from Minneapolis.
 
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Stus-List Re: Code

[Edd Schillay]

Not me. Must be something that only Catalina owners experience. 

All the best,

Edd


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Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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On Oct 6, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Robert Gallagher  wrote:

Is anyone else receiving hundreds of lines of code in their emails?   It’s 
becoming unmanageable. 
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Stus-List Re: Headliner hardware

[Edd Schillay]

Dean,

Might these be what you’re looking for?

https://www.swisco.com/Screw-Cap-Set/pd/Fasteners/67-017?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw_-49q2d7AIVGY7ICh0C1wBnEAQYDSABEgI9EPD_BwE

All the best, 

Edd

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On Oct 4, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Dean McNeill  wrote:

Another project on my new-to-me C is fixing the headliner. It’s actually 
in really good shape except there’s a number of the white plastic connectors 
(screws?) missing. No idea where to find these online or even what to call 
them? Any help folks?

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Stus-List Re: Propane Stove - Not Staying Lit

[Edd Schillay]

Josh,

So each burner has its own thermocouple? Any ideas on how to service/replace 
them? 

All the best,

Edd


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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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On Oct 1, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Josh Muckley  wrote:

Thermocouple is bad.  It is the safety device which ensures that the propane is 
shutoff if the flame goes out.  When hot it opens, cold closed.

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

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Listers,

Two of the burners on my three-burner stove do not stay lit. They will flame 
up, but when I let go of the dial, they die out. One is working perfectly. 

Any suggestions on a fix? 

All the best,

Edd


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