Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
Sorry, but that's just wrong. Those who are frugal and thrift buy things that last. Those who think they are being frugal and thrift shop for slightly underpriced things with even less value. Then they buy it again, and again. Another anecdotal story, but I have more then a few friends who are less then well off. Their spending habits and what they buy are insane. And this goes far beyond computers. We are talking everyday spending habits here. I won't say MS is marketing to these types so much as the cheap computer manufacturers. These manufacturers remind me of all the rent- a-center adds on tv. Anyone with half a brain would know to avoid these places. Jeff M On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Time to face the truth. The predominant reason for getting a PC is poverty. MS even advertises that on the TV. What you call poverty, normal people call frugality and thrift. Those are positive values, in case you were wondering. The only evident truth here is your usual out-of-touch arrogance and elitist snobbery masquerading as rationality. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Customer Service [Was:] Re: Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:21:02 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >I think there is no question that Apple has figured out that Customer >Service (Good customer service) is one way of keeping customers brand loyal. > >Would that many other companies would follow suit. > >Hats off to Apple for showing other companies what it means to go >above and beyond. HA! Apple's got nothing on these guys. I bought a couple of CDs from CD Baby and this is the level of service they have: "Your CDs have been gently taken from our CD Baby shelves with sterilized contamination-free gloves and placed onto a satin pillow. A team of 50 employees inspected your CDs and polished them to make sure they were in the best possible condition before mailing. Our packing specialist from Japan lit a candle and a hush fell over the crowd as he put your CDs into the finest gold-lined box that money can buy. We all had a wonderful celebration afterwards and the whole party marched down the street to the post office where the entire town of Portland waved "Bon Voyage!" to your package, on its way to you, in our private CD Baby jet on this day, Tuesday, June 9th. I hope you had a wonderful time shopping at CD Baby. We sure did. Your picture is on our wall as "Customer of the Year." We're all exhausted but can't wait for you to come back to CDBABY.COM!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Sigh..." Top that Steve Jobs! -- R:\katan - SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Customer service [Was:Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%]
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:21:02 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >I think there is no question that Apple has figured out that Customer >Service (Good customer service) is one way of keeping customers brand loyal. > >Would that many other companies would follow suit. > >Hats off to Apple for showing other companies what it means to go >above and beyond. HA! That's nothing. Ordered a couple of CDs from CD Baby, and this is the level of service you can expect from them: "Your CDs have been gently taken from our CD Baby shelves with sterilized contamination-free gloves and placed onto a satin pillow. A team of 50 employees inspected your CDs and polished them to make sure they were in the best possible condition before mailing. Our packing specialist from Japan lit a candle and a hush fell over the crowd as he put your CDs into the finest gold-lined box that money can buy. We all had a wonderful celebration afterwards and the whole party marched down the street to the post office where the entire town of Portland waved "Bon Voyage!" to your package, on its way to you, in our private CD Baby jet on this day, Tuesday, June 9th. I hope you had a wonderful time shopping at CD Baby. We sure did. Your picture is on our wall as "Customer of the Year." We're all exhausted but can't wait for you to come back to CDBABY.COM!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Sigh..." Top *that* Steve Jobs! -- R:\katan - SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Oops.
Sorry about the double post. My (non-MicroSoft) email client borked on me as I sent the first one, and it didn't show up in my "Sent Mail" folder, and I guess I didn't wait long enough for it to show up on The List. Oh well. -- R:\katan The last time I heard "my mind to your mind", I had a headache for two weeks. Kathryn Janeway, Captian, USS Voyager. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iTunes problem
OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those columns. Some have been in iTunes for years, and some were added in recent months. The files in Finder show dates, so it's not like the info is not there. I found this question asked in the Apple discussions forum from Dec. 2008 and there are no answers. OS X 10.5.7, iTunes 8.0.2 Any suggestions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Healthcare
I hope your mother has recovered well. Ten years ago I joined the PA Farm Bureau so I could get group rate Blue Cross through them. I don't recall exactly, but the cost then was about $350 per quarter, per person. Three or four years later it had gone to $1000 per month for my wife and I. Several members of my wife's family have died of colon cancer but this very expensive plan would not cover a colonoscopy. I'm sure there are 10s of millions of stories of this sort and much worse in this country at this point. And then there are the millons that have no hope of health care at all. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Just this past May my mother fell in France and broke both her femurs. My mother has both Medicare and Tricare for life. (My father was retired military reserves) Medicare will not cover you outside the US. Tricare will cover her surgery and hospital stay but it had to be paid for up front. Total cost (All inclusive) for surgeries and hospital stay of one week was $12,000 US. Same stay and surgeries in the US would have been approximately $50,000. US health care has found ways to line every ones pocket for a simple procedure. Have some blood drawn and you will get two to three bills. Doctors office for drawing blood, lab for running tests, and pathologist for reviewing lab results. Now that is criminal and outrageous. There is a better way to do this and it is going to take some time, but it is about time they start addressing it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
> Sorry, but that's just wrong. Those who are frugal and thrift buy > things that last. Those who think they are being frugal and thrift > shop for slightly underpriced things with even less value. Then they > buy it again, and again. There's a fallacy in your theory: you presume that all things of the same price are of equal quality and that nothing of a lower price can be of equal or greater quality. My own experience has shown that to be false. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: What you call poverty, normal people call frugality and thrift. Those are positive values, in case you were wondering. Some people can't tell the difference and apparently you are one. For example, such people think that getting a pay-day loan is a great way to buy what they want. They get instant gratification and the future does not enter into their calculation. After all money is money and money now is of course better than the pain of saving for things. Crummy PC hardware, like M$ promotes through its advertising (Laptop Hunters, etc.) is just like pay-day loans. You pay every day through reduced productivity and you pay when its end-of-life comes much sooner than it would with good hardware. You call it frugal, I call it profligate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Jul 26, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: There's a fallacy in your theory: you presume that all things of the same price are of equal quality and that nothing of a lower price can be of equal or greater quality. No. I look at quality and worry about the price later. Looks to me like you start with price and then try to scrounge up something that is not terrible. I'll admit that sometimes this works. To make such a strategy work takes time and effort. To be accurate you need to add in a cost for that extra effort. Of course you may insist that your time is worth nothing. This could be true. This strategy also increases risk since what you thought was good value may not turn out to be. Then you are stuck with a lemon and a company that does not stand behind its product. A proper calculation of cost would add in the value of the risk you are taking on. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Jordan wrote: OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those columns. iTunes stores this in a binary file called iTunes Library. It also writes out a duplicate of this information into iTunes Library.xml. Are the modify dates of these 2 files what you would expect? Do you see the missing dates in iTunes Library.xml? Are your file permissions okay? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
> No. I look at quality and worry about the price later. Looks to me > like you start with price and then try to scrounge up something that > is not terrible. I'll admit that sometimes this works. Does Muffy take this approach with the gardeners? I'll bet the help steals from you anyway. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
> Some people can't tell the difference and apparently you are one. Oh, I can alright. That's why my life is largely Apple free and will be so for the foreseeable future. I have plenty non-boutique products that don't cost me a chunk of my soul and work great. I just have to bear the crushing weight of the all cool kids sneering at me. > Crummy PC hardware, like M$ promotes through its advertising (Laptop > Hunters, etc.) is just like pay-day loans. You pay every day through > reduced productivity and you pay when its end-of-life comes much > sooner than it would with good hardware. You're so stuck in monolithic thinking, and god knows I've tried to help you out of that before, but my empathy well has run dry for you on that matter. Blissfully flail away. > You call it frugal, I call it profligate. My banker calls it smart. He knows the value thinking outside the white box. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Thanks Tom: t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Jordan wrote: OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those columns. iTunes stores this in a binary file called iTunes Library. It also writes out a duplicate of this information into iTunes Library.xml. Are the modify dates of these 2 files what you would expect? Do you see the missing dates in iTunes Library.xml? The Library files show modified today, since iTunes is open and I was checking things and updating an iPod. In iTunes Library.xml dates and times are there. Are your file permissions okay? I have read and write permissions. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You're so stuck in monolithic thinking, and god knows I've tried to help you out of that before, but my empathy well has run dry for you on that matter. Blissfully flail away. Here is somebody else in need of help with monolithic thinking... "Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with 'Guru Bars'" http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/24/ microsoft_stores_to_mimic_apples_with_guru_bars.html "A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentative plans for its retail stores -- and the high degree to which they'll imitate Apple stores, down to their layouts and even the presence of a dedicated "Guru Bar" for help." I guess that by cutting down on originality M$ thinks it is being frugal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: My banker calls it smart. Fine, except that your banker is the Cash Point store. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
On Jul 26, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Jordan wrote: In iTunes Library.xml dates and times are there. I presume you mean the Date Added and Date Modified are in the xml file. You can force the iTunes Library file to be rebuilt from the iTunes Library.xml file. Maybe that will give you what you need. Note that I have never had to do this myself. This is supposed to be the procedure... First quit iTunes. Then backup copy the iTunes Library and iTunes Library.xml files. Then create an empty text file, name it iTunes Library and put it where iTunes Library was. Start iTunes and let it rebuild your "corrupt" iTunes Library file. YMMV * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
"Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with 'Guru Bars'" http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/24/microsoft_stores_to_mimic_apples_with_guru_bars.html "A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentative plans for its retail stores -- and the high degree to which they'll imitate Apple stores, down to their layouts and even the presence of a dedicated "Guru Bar" for help." Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? But maybe if they had free drinks...? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Perhaps I'll trash iTunes and it's support files and start over. There are 3 iPods I serve with this iTunes, but they are totally stocked. Then I can add to library or import as needed. I keep my audio files well organized. Everything except the last year is also on my iMac running iTunes 7 and Tiger. t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Jordan wrote: OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not 1 date shown in those columns. iTunes stores this in a binary file called iTunes Library. It also writes out a duplicate of this information into iTunes Library.xml. Are the modify dates of these 2 files what you would expect? Do you see the missing dates in iTunes Library.xml? Are your file permissions okay? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Something else happened a couple months ago and maybe they are related. A .DS_Store file started appearing. I've read about what it does, but I don't know why it started appearing. I just did a verify disk and everything seem to be OK. I'll try the iTunes rebuild. Thanks t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Jordan wrote: In iTunes Library.xml dates and times are there. I presume you mean the Date Added and Date Modified are in the xml file. You can force the iTunes Library file to be rebuilt from the iTunes Library.xml file. Maybe that will give you what you need. Note that I have never had to do this myself. This is supposed to be the procedure... First quit iTunes. Then backup copy the iTunes Library and iTunes Library.xml files. Then create an empty text file, name it iTunes Library and put it where iTunes Library was. Start iTunes and let it rebuild your "corrupt" iTunes Library file. YMMV * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? But maybe if they had free drinks...? That would only encourage fist fights. Its a good thing that the NRA didn't get its gun slinger bill passed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Health care debate
On the recent health care comments. I got this from my congressman this weekend. Note he is one of those blue dog democrats mentioned frequently on TV. ---quote To be clear, I would vote against the bill if it came to a floor vote in its current form. I have serious concerns with the health care bill, specifically the inclusion of a public option and employer and individual mandates for insurance coverage. Additionally, the bill is paid for by increasing taxes on some small businesses and individuals, something that should never be done during a recession. We should be looking for ways to support and help small businesses, not hurt them. The introduction of this health care bill is a first step in a long process and I will continue to follow its progress and continue to look for opportunities to make improvements to the bill. The Senate is currently working on a bipartisan health care solution and I am hopeful that the deliberative process produces a bill that is much better for the American people. The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market-based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. Regardless of the outcome, I will read the final bill closely and be well-informed on its content before voting on any legislation. ---end quote- Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
The iTunes support instructions suggest pretty much what you said. But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTunes Library) I tried it a couple times and it would not rebuild the library from the xml. Then I tried the reverse, just to see if it would work, and it did. It rebuilt the xml file from the iTunes Library file. EK! But still no dates in iTunes. My mileage varied t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Jordan wrote: In iTunes Library.xml dates and times are there. I presume you mean the Date Added and Date Modified are in the xml file. You can force the iTunes Library file to be rebuilt from the iTunes Library.xml file. Maybe that will give you what you need. Note that I have never had to do this myself. This is supposed to be the procedure... First quit iTunes. Then backup copy the iTunes Library and iTunes Library.xml files. Then create an empty text file, name it iTunes Library and put it where iTunes Library was. Start iTunes and let it rebuild your "corrupt" iTunes Library file. YMMV * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
If he is against the public option then he is against the people of this country and for the greedy corporations that make the costs so high. These costs are born by everyone now, including the small businesses and individuals he claims to be concerned about. But I suspect you know this. Rev. S Marshall wrote: On the recent health care comments. I got this from my congressman this weekend. Note he is one of those blue dog democrats mentioned frequently on TV. ---quote To be clear, I would vote against the bill if it came to a floor vote in its current form. I have serious concerns with the health care bill, specifically the inclusion of a public option and employer and individual mandates for insurance coverage. Additionally, the bill is paid for by increasing taxes on some small businesses and individuals, something that should never be done during a recession. We should be looking for ways to support and help small businesses, not hurt them. The introduction of this health care bill is a first step in a long process and I will continue to follow its progress and continue to look for opportunities to make improvements to the bill. The Senate is currently working on a bipartisan health care solution and I am hopeful that the deliberative process produces a bill that is much better for the American people. The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market-based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. Regardless of the outcome, I will read the final bill closely and be well-informed on its content before voting on any legislation. ---end quote- Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? But maybe if they had free drinks...? That would only encourage fist fights. Its a good thing that the NRA didn't get its gun slinger bill passed. Now you're talking about a reality show that I might be able to watch. Well..maybe once, at least. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTunes Library) I think the reason an empty file is supplied is to trick iTunes into thinking it is corrupt so a rebuild is triggered. Some reports even have you emptying and using the original file. What you did possibly triggers a different process. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev. S Marshall wrote: The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market- based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. If I were getting campaign contributions from insurance company executives who were paying themselves $100,000,000 salaries I would be pushing a "market-based approach" too. Propose a "market-based approach" with caps on executive compensation and I bet he would oppose that too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Why do these programs have to be so mysterious and self governing? Makes us users into sleuths in order to do anything other than day to day operation... bah humbug! db t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTunes Library) I think the reason an empty file is supplied is to trick iTunes into thinking it is corrupt so a rebuild is triggered. Some reports even have you emptying and using the original file. What you did possibly triggers a different process. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jordan wrote: But when I tried it, instead of rebuilding the library from the xml file it changed the xml file to match the empty library file. (no empty text file needed. It creates a new itunes file, and did nothing to a text file named iTunes Library) I think the reason an empty file is supplied is to trick iTunes into thinking it is corrupt so a rebuild is triggered. Some reports even have you emptying and using the original file. What you did possibly triggers a different process. I tried it with your empty text file as well. It was ignored. If you look at the iTunes Library file, it has it's own itunes icon. It's not a text file. The Apple instructions don't say anything about creating a dummy file. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1451 In any case, in all this tinkering, no dates ever appeared in iTunes. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
I think people's health interests and a insurance company's profits are counter opposed. There is no such thing as too being too healthy and well cared or too much profit. Since less benefits means more profits they really aren't decent bedfellows. One benefits at the expense of the other and with shareholder profit based companies in control, it's inevitable what the inevitable result will always be re: cost and amount of benefits and care db t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev. S Marshall wrote: The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market-based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. If I were getting campaign contributions from insurance company executives who were paying themselves $100,000,000 salaries I would be pushing a "market-based approach" too. Propose a "market-based approach" with caps on executive compensation and I bet he would oppose that too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Just wondering, why do you want to know added and mod dates? I've never shown either of these columns in itunes, but today I did. Date added of course is the date added to itunes..but date mod is the date my system modified the file, not itunes. Seems odd. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Jordan wrote: > OK iTunes fans, I've got a question for you. > I've got my audio tracks showing in a list and Date Added and Date Modified > are headings in the list. But of the 11047 "songs" in the list, there is not > 1 date shown in those columns. Some have been in iTunes for years, and some > were added in recent months. The files in Finder show dates, so it's not > like the info is not there. > I found this question asked in the Apple discussions forum from Dec. 2008 > and there are no answers. > OS X 10.5.7, iTunes 8.0.2 > Any suggestions? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:30 PM, db wrote: Why do these programs have to be so mysterious and self governing? Welcome to the future. Over the decades I've watched both hardware and software get smarter and smarter. Ways I used to use to trick them no longer work. What you are seeing in the latest advance. The software wants to manage your files for you and be bulletproof. If you treat these new programs like you did the old stuff you are more likely to run into problems and maybe even break things. Best not to struggle too much and let them be helpful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no differentiating titles, up to 25 or 99. So when I first loaded up a book I'd have 15 tracks called track 1, and 15 called track 2 and so on, and I quickly discovered that iTunes could get confused about the order of these apparently identical files. It becomes a long and convoluted story, but you get the picture that if iTunes can't order these files by time added, you'd have little chance of understanding the book. And I'm not even going to get into what iTunes does to the organizing of these file if you look for them in Finder. In case anyone finds this interesting, I've since learned that you can load a CD into iTunes and then make a single bookmarkable file of the whole disk, or disc. When you are loading the disc, select Advanced/Join CD Tracks. I hope this makes sense. mike wrote: Just wondering, why do you want to know added and mod dates? I've never shown either of these columns in itunes, but today I did. Date added of course is the date added to itunes..but date mod is the date my system modified the file, not itunes. Seems odd. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
There are mass mp3 tagging tools out there that makes all of this easier. I'm surprised itunes didn't tag as you were ripping. Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Jordan wrote: I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no differentiating titles, up to 25 or 99. So when I first loaded up a book I'd have 15 tracks called track 1, and 15 called track 2 and so on, and I quickly discovered that iTunes could get confused about the order of these apparently identical files. It becomes a long and convoluted story, but you get the picture that if iTunes can't order these files by time added, you'd have little chance of understanding the book. And I'm not even going to get into what iTunes does to the organizing of these file if you look for them in Finder. In case anyone finds this interesting, I've since learned that you can load a CD into iTunes and then make a single bookmarkable file of the whole disk, or disc. When you are loading the disc, select Advanced/Join CD Tracks. I hope this makes sense. mike wrote: Just wondering, why do you want to know added and mod dates? I've never shown either of these columns in itunes, but today I did. Date added of course is the date added to itunes..but date mod is the date my system modified the file, not itunes. Seems odd. *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
Did you like the Canadian system when you lived there? Have you contacted your congessman to show support for public/private system? Which company 'owns' him? Countries that have the best health care systems have universal health care with a combination of public and private [nonprofit] insurance and health care. The US is 37th. France is #1. Switzerland is high on the list too; they banned for-profit insurance. In the Netherlands, the cost of health insurance is $130/month and a 7.2% tax, with subsidies available. Germany uses less than 11% of GDP for health care, but it's better than in the US where it's well over 15% of GDP and rising fast. The big propaganda message is that a gummint bureaucrat will tell you and your doctor what kind of health care you can have. That will be a huge improvement over private for-profit insurance companies refusing to pay for procedures that are basic parts of an annual physical. More than once, our insurance companies have approved a procedure, then refused to pay for it, resulting in hours, sometimes days, on the phone trying to get them to pay for what they approved. Universal Medicare [or similar] will be much better, since Medicare allows you to choose your doctors and have them/you decide what kind of care you need. "Rev. S Marshall" esceibió: On the recent health care comments. I got this from my congressman this weekend. Note he is one of those blue dog democrats mentioned frequently on TV. ---quote To be clear, I would vote against the bill if it came to a floor vote in its current form. I have serious concerns with the health care bill, specifically the inclusion of a public option and employer and individual mandates for insurance coverage. Additionally, the bill is paid for by increasing taxes on some small businesses and individuals, something that should never be done during a recession. We should be looking for ways to support and help small businesses, not hurt them. The introduction of this health care bill is a first step in a long process and I will continue to follow its progress and continue to look for opportunities to make improvements to the bill. The Senate is currently working on a bipartisan health care solution and I am hopeful that the deliberative process produces a bill that is much better for the American people. The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market-based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. Regardless of the outcome, I will read the final bill closely and be well-informed on its content before voting on any legislation. ---end quote- * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
I have old fashioned filing habits on the computer. I do not use and know nothing of tags. But I do know where stuff is. Now that I know to join the tracks I'm pretty happy. Except, I have messed with everything in all the iTunes files I can find this afternoon and still no dates. Sent from my MacBook Pro Mike wrote: There are mass mp3 tagging tools out there that makes all of this easier. I'm surprised itunes didn't tag as you were ripping. Sent from my iPod * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Back up your iTunes library: File-->Library-->Back up to Disk, and Export Playlist Move and rename the original iTunes library file [database]. Then reimport your music. The easiest way to do this is to drag and drop the iTunes music folder into the Music library in the program. Don't do all of the 11000+ files at a time. Try a few hundred at a time, then work up to 1000 or more. Or you can do it in the File-->Add to Library dialog box. You shouldn't see the .DS_Store file. It's supposed to be invisible. It stores metadata about contents of a folder. Are you using any of the utilities that make invisible files visible? [OnyX, TinkerTool, etc.; playing with the Terminal] If you are, those utilities can also create mischief in the Finder if you don't know exactly what they're supposed to be doing [RTFM]. Did you restore your HD recently? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
Might want to learn about tagging, it would solve many of your issues with your library. Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Jordan wrote: I have old fashioned filing habits on the computer. I do not use and know nothing of tags. But I do know where stuff is. Now that I know to join the tracks I'm pretty happy. Except, I have messed with everything in all the iTunes files I can find this afternoon and still no dates. Sent from my MacBook Pro Mike wrote: There are mass mp3 tagging tools out there that makes all of this easier. I'm surprised itunes didn't tag as you were ripping. Sent from my iPod *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
I am a physician, I may say a atypical physician. Americans will do the right thing after trying everything else. I have no doubts: the Single Payer is the wau to go. www.pnhp.og Marcio -Original Message- >From: Jordan >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 10:28 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: [CGUYS] Healthcare > >I hope your mother has recovered well. > >Ten years ago I joined the PA Farm Bureau so I could get group rate Blue >Cross through them. I don't recall exactly, but the cost then was about >$350 per quarter, per person. Three or four years later it had gone to >$1000 per month for my wife and I. Several members of my wife's family >have died of colon cancer but this very expensive plan would not cover a >colonoscopy. >I'm sure there are 10s of millions of stories of this sort and much >worse in this country at this point. And then there are the millons that >have no hope of health care at all. > >Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >> Just this past May my mother fell in France and broke both her femurs. >> >> My mother has both Medicare and Tricare for life. (My father was >> retired military reserves) >> >> Medicare will not cover you outside the US. >> >> Tricare will cover her surgery and hospital stay but it had to be paid >> for up front. >> >> Total cost (All inclusive) for surgeries and hospital stay of one week >> was $12,000 US. Same stay and surgeries in the US would have been >> approximately $50,000. >> >> US health care has found ways to line every ones pocket for a simple >> procedure. >> >> Have some blood drawn and you will get two to three bills. Doctors >> office for drawing blood, lab for running tests, and pathologist for >> reviewing lab results. Now that is criminal and outrageous. >> >> There is a better way to do this and it is going to take some time, >> but it is about time they start addressing it. >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wish m luck...
Yes, after pondering and pondering... I may do just that. Will lose my Windows Vista (that will have no use) and start wth Windows 7. Perhaps I will nor buy a new drive, just format this one... Thanks to you all Marcio -Original Message- >From: Tony B >Sent: Jul 25, 2009 10:02 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Wish m luck... > >Ya really. Give it a rest until October. Then buy a new drive and >install Win7 on it. > > >>> What is the worse that can happen? >> >> We have another tale of woe to read. > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
I use my iPods almost exclusively for audiobooks. My method for ensuring proper sequencing is: In iTunes preferences, for the When insert CD option, I chose Show CD (instead of start importing). Then if the CDDB database doesn't have the tracks and/or disks differentiated, I select all and, with Get Info, name the album, Book Name nn, author as the artist, and, Books and Spoken as Genre. Then hit the Import CD button. Each track can now have the track nn name, but be grouped in CD order. When you make your playlist, the albums will be in CD order under the author (block select, drag and drop to playlist). Also, if more than 9 CDs, be sure to number, 01, 02, etc, so that you don't have 10, 11, etc, between 1 and 2. Jordan wrote: I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no differentiating titles, up to 25 or 99. So when I first loaded up a book I'd have 15 tracks called track 1, and 15 called track 2 and so on, and I quickly discovered that iTunes could get confused about the order of these apparently identical files. It becomes a long and convoluted story, but you get the picture that if iTunes can't order these files by time added, you'd have little chance of understanding the book. And I'm not even going to get into what iTunes does to the organizing of these file if you look for them in Finder. In case anyone finds this interesting, I've since learned that you can load a CD into iTunes and then make a single bookmarkable file of the whole disk, or disc. When you are loading the disc, select Advanced/Join CD Tracks. I hope this makes sense. mike wrote: Just wondering, why do you want to know added and mod dates? I've never shown either of these columns in itunes, but today I did. Date added of course is the date added to itunes..but date mod is the date my system modified the file, not itunes. Seems odd. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: > Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? They'll likely fix most problems the way that so many other places fix Windows problems. Wipe the hard drive. That oughta do it, right? Quick and easy. You did see that option on the work order you signed, didn't you? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
If you want a health system for the American people,tell this representive that he just lost your vote. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Jordan >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 4:04 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >If he is against the public option then he is against the people of this >country and for the greedy corporations that make the costs so high. >These costs are born by everyone now, including the small businesses and >individuals he claims to be concerned about. > >But I suspect you know this. > >Rev. S Marshall wrote: >> On the recent health care comments. >> >> I got this from my congressman this weekend. Note he is one of those blue >> dog democrats mentioned frequently on TV. >> >> >> ---quote >> To be clear, I would vote against the bill if it came to a floor vote in its >> current form. I have serious concerns with the health care bill, >> specifically the inclusion of a public option and employer and individual >> mandates for insurance coverage. Additionally, the bill is paid for by >> increasing taxes on some small businesses and individuals, something that >> should never be done during a recession. We should be looking for ways to >> support and help small businesses, not hurt them. >> >> >> The introduction of this health care bill is a first step in a long process >> and I will continue to follow its progress and continue to look for >> opportunities to make improvements to the bill. The Senate is currently >> working on a bipartisan health care solution and I am hopeful that the >> deliberative process produces a bill that is much better for the American >> people. The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a >> market-based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health >> care. Regardless of the outcome, I will read the final bill closely and be >> well-informed on its content before voting on any legislation. >> ---end quote- >> >> >> Stewart >> >> >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
Ayn Rand is wrong. "The Market" will never solve health care. Everione must share and everyone have access. Out wth iinsurance companies and greed dctors. I am a doctor. Marcio -Original Message- >From: "t.piwowar" >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 5:15 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev. S Marshall wrote: >> The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market- >> based approach to address current problems in our nation’s health >> care. > >If I were getting campaign contributions from insurance company >executives who were paying themselves $100,000,000 salaries I would >be pushing a "market-based approach" too. > >Propose a "market-based approach" with caps on executive compensation >and I bet he would oppose that too. > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
Of course: less care...more profits... Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 5:40 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >I think people's health interests and a insurance company's profits are >counter opposed. > >There is no such thing as too being too healthy and well cared or too >much profit. >Since less benefits means more profits they really aren't decent >bedfellows. > >One benefits at the expense of the other and with shareholder profit >based companies in control, it's inevitable what the inevitable result >will always be re: cost and amount of benefits and care > >db > >t.piwowar wrote: >> On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev. S Marshall wrote: >>> The final product must be bipartisan, and it must use a market-based >>> approach to address current problems in our nation’s health care. >> >> If I were getting campaign contributions from insurance company >> executives who were paying themselves $100,000,000 salaries I would be >> pushing a "market-based approach" too. >> >> Propose a "market-based approach" with caps on executive compensation >> and I bet he would oppose that too. >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate
I have been in Canada many times. Ask the Canadians if they want the US Sstem... You make sense! Marcio -Original Message- >From: b_s-wilk >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 10:06 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Health care debate > >Did you like the Canadian system when you lived there? > >Have you contacted your congessman to show support for public/private >system? Which company 'owns' him? > >Countries that have the best health care systems have universal health >care with a combination of public and private [nonprofit] insurance and >health care. The US is 37th. France is #1. Switzerland is high on the >list too; they banned for-profit insurance. In the Netherlands, the cost >of health insurance is $130/month and a 7.2% tax, with subsidies >available. Germany uses less than 11% of GDP for health care, but it's >better than in the US where it's well over 15% of GDP and rising fast. > >The big propaganda message is that a gummint bureaucrat will tell you >and your doctor what kind of health care you can have. That will be a >huge improvement over private for-profit insurance companies refusing to >pay for procedures that are basic parts of an annual physical. More than >once, our insurance companies have approved a procedure, then refused to >pay for it, resulting in hours, sometimes days, on the phone trying to >get them to pay for what they approved. Universal Medicare [or similar] >will be much better, since Medicare allows you to choose your doctors >and have them/you decide what kind of care you need. > > >"Rev. S Marshall" esceibió: >> >> On the recent health care comments. >> >> I got this from my congressman this weekend. Note he is one of those >> blue dog democrats mentioned frequently on TV. >> >> >> ---quote To be clear, I would >> vote against the bill if it came to a floor vote in its current form. >> I have serious concerns with the health care bill, specifically the >> inclusion of a public option and employer and individual mandates for >> insurance coverage. Additionally, the bill is paid for by increasing >> taxes on some small businesses and individuals, something that should >> never be done during a recession. We should be looking for ways to >> support and help small businesses, not hurt them. >> >> >> The introduction of this health care bill is a first step in a long >> process and I will continue to follow its progress and continue to >> look for opportunities to make improvements to the bill. The Senate >> is currently working on a bipartisan health care solution and I am >> hopeful that the deliberative process produces a bill that is much >> better for the American people. The final product must be >> bipartisan, and it must use a market-based approach to address >> current problems in our nation’s health care. Regardless of the >> outcome, I will read the final bill closely and be well-informed on >> its content before voting on any legislation. >> ---end quote- >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%
The guru bar will be equipped with a large magnet embedded in the counter...your problems will be fixed as soon as you put your computer down. Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:26 PM, "phartz...@gmail.com" wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? They'll likely fix most problems the way that so many other places fix Windows problems. Wipe the hard drive. That oughta do it, right? Quick and easy. You did see that option on the work order you signed, didn't you? Steve *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
Absolutely wrong. There must always be choices. The customer must always have somewhere else to go when the service he is currently receiving is unsatisfactory. Single payer is tyranny. And the customer (patient) must always have the right to seek medical care (and the provider have the right to provide it) in a free will contract between the contracting parties. No government rationing of health care (procedures, medicines, etc.). Fred Holmes At 10:35 PM 7/26/2009, Marcio wrote: > I am a physician, I may say a atypical physician. Americans will do the right > thing after trying everything else. I have no doubts: the Single Payer is the > wau to go. www.pnhp.og > >Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
