[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] netscape-4.72-1mdk
David BAUDENS écrivit : > * Thu Feb 24 2000 - David BAUDENS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 4.72-1mdk > > - 4.72 - 56 bits version is available main distribution ^^ Well, of course it's "128 bits version is available in crypto" -- Linux Mandrake http://www.mandrake.com/ --David
RE: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
had problems with the ls120 diskette drive on my system...actually any boot diskettes. i dislike the old 3 1/2 standard drives because they're slow, still take an irq, and small in size. (just my 2 cents) On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > hi, > > if your system is too broken to even use sash (linux 1 at the lilo boot > prompt.) why don't you check out tomsrtbt... > > it uses kernel 2.0 + libc5 i think, but i hear that if you want to use glibc > you can, provided that yo have glibc placed somewhere on the hasrd drive, > and you can use chroot. a lot of the commands in toms are actually clevwerly > written shell scripts. > > vim and emacs?!! they wouldn't fit on one floppy...btw, tomsrtbt does have > vi. > > geoffrey lee (snail talk) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Hedbor > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:36 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Cooker] Rescue ISO? > > > > > > > > Since I stopped using Slackware oh so many years ago, I haven't used > > one distribution with a good rescue disk using standard tools. I have > > never checked out the Mandrake rescue disk either - mostly due to the > > requirement of actually using a floppy. > > > > What about providing a second iso-image that is a bootable system, for > > rescue work. It could include all kinds of useful tools and not just > > some weird special environment like the Redhat rescue (again, haven't > > tried Mandrake's but Redhat's has always been completely useless). > > > > Basically, put the best system recovery tools and also stuff like your > > "favorite" editor like vim and emacs on a decently sized, bootable > > ISO image. > > > > Not only would it incredibly useful - I think it would be a great to > > use when trying to convince people in upgrading to Mandrake. > > > > What do you think? > > > > -- > > [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] > > Hey, what do you expect from a culture that *drives* on *parkways* and > > *parks* on *driveways*? > > -- Gallagher > > -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
RE: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
added my comment at the end: On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > hi, > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Hedbor > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 4:48 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO? > > > > > > Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > "Geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image > > that can be > > > > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something > > on your system? > > > > > > As for the rescue. 7.1 should have a good one. > > > > > > The idea is to use a rescue_stage2.img instead of mdkinst_stage2.img > > > this file should be less than 15MB to fit in ramdisk. That way > > the cdrom can be > > > removed after booting and replaced by another one :) > > > > Sounds nice. The only thing I want to avoid is having to use > > floppys. If it can fit on the normal CD - great! Please consider > > having some editor other than vi though, like jed or at least pico. We > > emacs people don't like and can't use vi* and since emacs couldn't fit > > in 15 MB... :) > > > e...!! emacs!! urgh... it's so big and kludged ! :-) > > i use vi myself. but i guess pico is a good choice. it's nice and easy to > use. > > so i gues the list of editors could be ed, vi , ex, and pico. > please remember that the rescue _is_ a minimal distro, which is only for > getting your system back up. it is not a distro for daily use!! so i > wouldn't dream if adding more editors than necessary.. > i've been around for some time, and i guess it's no secret, but the reason for the minimal distro size was due to the restricted size of the floppy diskette (~ 1mb). Now an ls120 diskette will hold 120 mb and move almost twice as fast. since cd-r's have become more popular and are considered standard devices, it too could be considered a "standard" for rescue media. note: there is no real limitations (yet) to the miscellaneous "rescue" tools that you can toss into it. i'm presently downloading www.demolinux.org and will check it out later.looks real spiffy of which, a newbie won't have to mess with command line stuff anymore! sure if ms got thier hands on this idea, they'd sell the rescue iso/cd-r for about $100 (ransom moneylol).
Re: [Cooker] Another Cooker ISO issue
i use rsync...once you d/l all the files for cooker, rsync will only update the files (rpm's) that have changed on the ftp. it really helps, but still isn't a replacement for faster speeds. reserve about 600 mb of hdd space for the /cooker files and rsync it overnight. most times, there's only ~5 rpm's to d/l or so. (...if your not already doing this.) On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > Here in Juneau we have cable modem access > so downloading massive files quickly is not so > much a problem. However; > > We may be relocating to the interior in a more > remote area which has only a 2.2kps connection > if you are lucky. Others who are much more > knowledgable than I are in this same situation > so I was wondering... > > Is there, or would there be, anyway to get an ISO > Cooker image burned to CD perhaps like once a month > or two upon request, or... ? I know one can get > cheap LM 7.0 etc from various companies but not ones > closer to the "Edge". I personally would even be willing > to consider some sort or subscription service whereby for > a monthly or annual fee, I would be sent the latest updates, > contribs. etc. > > Is this possible, or maybe even actually taking place as I speak > but not generally known? > > Having to go "Cold Turkey" from my ability to actively and rapidly > interract with Mandrake releases is something I can deal > with if necessary, but am hoping there are methods available > to "compensate for the loss" > > Basically I guess the issue is, > "how can I downgrade yet continue to upgrade?" > > Excuse the ramblings. > > > William Bouterse > (presently of) > Juneau Alaska -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
RE: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
hi, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Hedbor > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 4:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO? > > > Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image > that can be > > > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something > on your system? > > > > As for the rescue. 7.1 should have a good one. > > > > The idea is to use a rescue_stage2.img instead of mdkinst_stage2.img > > this file should be less than 15MB to fit in ramdisk. That way > the cdrom can be > > removed after booting and replaced by another one :) > > Sounds nice. The only thing I want to avoid is having to use > floppys. If it can fit on the normal CD - great! Please consider > having some editor other than vi though, like jed or at least pico. We > emacs people don't like and can't use vi* and since emacs couldn't fit > in 15 MB... :) e...!! emacs!! urgh... it's so big and kludged ! :-) i use vi myself. but i guess pico is a good choice. it's nice and easy to use. so i gues the list of editors could be ed, vi , ex, and pico. please remember that the rescue _is_ a minimal distro, which is only for getting your system back up. it is not a distro for daily use!! so i wouldn't dream if adding more editors than necessary.. > > -- > [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] > Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom: > No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats -- > approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less. >
RE: [Cooker] xchat-1.4.0
hi, i already uploaded a src rpm but it seems alex forgot about it... :-( > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Fox > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 7:40 AM > To: Cooker > Subject: [Cooker] xchat-1.4.0 > > > Anyone planning on updating xchat-1.4.0? Its supposed to be a stable > release and it seems to work fine on my box for the last couple nights. > > -- > > Steve Fox > http://k-lug.com >
[Cooker] kernel 2.2.15-0.8
After upgrading to 2.2.15-0.8 I can't boot my cooker. The kernel after starting init trashing the harddrive and totally stuck in the depmods step "Finding module dependencies". Does anybody experienced this or it is only my machine? I had to "borrow" the 2.2.15 -2.5.0 kernel and modules from redhat 6.2-beta. (my rsync deletes the last stable kernel package).
Re: [Cooker] SECURITY BUGs in "security_check.sh"
Stefan Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Stefan Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > I found some errors in "security_check.sh". Here is my list of fixes=20
> > > and attached you can find a patch against "msec-0.9-14mdk" rpm
> >
> > Hi Stefan,
> > cool too see that many people give many interest in msec,
> > however, please never ever frightened me like that with
> > a subject like that...
> >
> > Cause it's not a "SECURITY BUGs"
> OK, let's say a bug in a security-package ;-)
A bug is an error,
i don't see any error :)
( except maybe the two little regex patch ) :-)
>
> > >
> > > -8<-->8--
> > > * Files that should not be owned by someone else or readable:
> > >-> added ".gnupg/secring.gpg" as Mandrake uses GNUPG as default
> > ok :)
> > It 's very difficult to include all important file :)
> that's right, but as Mandrake switched to GNUPG I thaught it would be
> a good Idea
it is :)
> > [...]
> > >-> replaced username-check by uid-check (avoids false output=20
> > > by usernames > 8 char, e.g. "fetchmail" !=3D "fetchmai" )
> > This one is cool,
> > however i first started to look at uid,
> > but this is a problem with novice users...
> > In the end i will probably do a UID check, and search the username
> > associated to the UID in question.
> When You'll look at my patch you'll find uid and names be displayed ...
yop just seen it :)
>
> >
> > >-> removed "~lp" and "~mail" from group-check as their homedirs
> > > are group writeable
> >
> > wrong completly depend on your configuration.
> > alph:~$ ls -l mail
> > -rw---1 yoannyoann5057 Feb 11 12:40 mail
> > alph:~$
> --8<-->8---
> $ rpm -qlvp /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/filesystem-1.3.5-1mdk.noarch.rpm |
> grep mail
> drwxrwxr-x root mail 1024 Feb 6 1996 /var/spool/mail
> $ rpm -qlvp /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/lpr-0.48-1mdk.i586.rpm | grep spool
> drwxrwxr-x root daemon 4096 Jan 10 14:30 /var/spool/lpd
> --8<-->8---
> that's why I "removed" those two from being displayed ...
> (Note: Your rpms from iso-2 ...)
what are u talking about , ~/mail or /var/spool/mail ?
:)
>
> > [...]
> > However, be carefull that msec should got many architecture change in
> > a few time, so do not bother too much :)
> waiting to see what will come next ...
better architecture,
also i'll maybe use cfengine.
>
> > > diff -uNr /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh.orig
>/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh
> > > [...]
> > > ### Check home directories. Directories should not be owned by someone else or
>writeable.
> > > -awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
> > > -while read uid homedir; do
> > > +awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $3 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
> > > +while read username uid homedir; do
> > > if [[ -d ${homedir} ]] ; then
> > > -file=`ls -ldg ${homedir}`
> > > -printf "$uid $file\n"
> > > +realuid=`ls -ldgn ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
> > > +realuser=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
> > > +permissions=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $1 }'`
> > > +printf "${permissions} ${username} (${uid}) ${realuser}
>(${realuid})\n"
> > > fi
> > > -done | awk '$1 != $4 && $4 != "root" \
> > > -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is owned by " $4 "." }
> > > - $2 ~ /^-w/ \
> > > -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is group writeable." }
> > > - $2 ~ /^-...w/ \
> > > -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
> > > +done | awk '$3 != $5 && $5 != "(0)" \
> > > +{ print "user=" $2 $3 " : home directory is owned by " $4 $5 "." }
> > > + $1 ~ /^dw/ && $2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail" \
> >
> > $2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail"
> > this one is wrong as i've said above..
> I explained my "removing" above ... BTW as you can see my output is:
>
> user=test1(503) : home directory is owned by test2(504).
>
> so you have uid and usernames displayed ...
yop, that's cool :)
will be included :)
--
-- Yoann http://prelude.sourceforge.net
It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.
Re: [Cooker] Getting there
Your whole network's not getting started. Go to /etc/rc.d/init.d and #network start Look for errors & fix them. If it says, "Network Starting: [OK]" run ifconfig. You will see info on lo & ethx's. Then ensure there are symlinks in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d & rc5.d called S10network. If you have a firewalling script, put a symlink in these folders called S08firewalling (pointing to your script) and it will start before the network. Add host mappings to your hosts file. IP then name.domain.com, as with localhost. -- Carl A. Cook quantumATaugustmailDOTcom Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers OS wrote: > Thanks for replying > > ifconfig produces nothing, i.e. no lo, no ppp0, nothing. > > /etc/hosts : > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > What next ? > > Owen > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > > This may sound like really simple steps, but did you.. > > > > - Run "ifconfig" and make sure that the "lo" interface is activated? > > > > - Check the /etc/hosts file and make sure that the name "localhost" is > > associated with an IP address, hopefully 127.0.0.1? > > > > > > Don Head > > Linux Mentor > > 1 800 826-4640 x1942 > > 1 314 692-1942 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935] > > [IRC - EFnet, #WaveTech, Don-Wave] > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: OS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:49 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Cooker] Getting there > > > > > > I posted an e-mail regarding the java debugger supplied with the Sun Java > > SDK. > > > > Well, after much messing around I have found that Sun, bless 'em, missed one > > file out of the SDK tar ball (it was in ALL the RC releases !) and didn't > > copy > > a library file to /usr/lib ! (Thanks to Blackdown for that by suggesting > > using > > strace.) > > > > Any way, to another problem. The java debugger now complains about not being > > able to connect to the local host. > > > > So, I tried ping localhost, and ping 127.0.0.1 > > > > 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > > > Why doesn't this work anymore !?!?!?!?!? > > > > It used to work, well when I say used to, I haven't tried ping'ing for ages > > and > > ages. > > > > Anyway, is this why I can't connect to localhost, or is this a red herring. > > > > Help please, > > Owen
[Cooker] xchat-1.4.0
Anyone planning on updating xchat-1.4.0? Its supposed to be a stable release and it seems to work fine on my box for the last couple nights. -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
RE: [Cooker] Getting there
Extremely strange. Here's some details.. Make sure you have a file named "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo". If you don't, it's a plain text file. Create it. Permissions on mine are root/root 755. Here's some contents: DEVICE=lo IPADDR=127.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.0.0.0 NETWORK=127.0.0.0 BROADCAST=127.255.255.255 ONBOOT=yes NAME=loopback After creating this file, or verifying it's existance, use the command "ifup lo" to start it without rebooting. The line above, ONBOOT=yes, will ensure that it's started from now on during boot. If yours is set to no, fix it. If for some reason THAT doesn't work (generates an error), you have a SERIOUS problem. Don Head Linux Mentor 1 800 826-4640 x1942 1 314 692-1942 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935] [IRC - EFnet, #WaveTech, Don-Wave] -Original Message- From: OS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:15 PM To: Don Head Subject: RE: [Cooker] Getting there Thanks for replying ifconfig produces nothing, i.e. no lo, no ppp0, nothing. /etc/hosts : 127.0.0.1 localhost What next ? Owen On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > This may sound like really simple steps, but did you.. > > - Run "ifconfig" and make sure that the "lo" interface is activated? > > - Check the /etc/hosts file and make sure that the name "localhost" is > associated with an IP address, hopefully 127.0.0.1? > > > Don Head > Linux Mentor > 1 800 826-4640 x1942 > 1 314 692-1942 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935] > [IRC - EFnet, #WaveTech, Don-Wave] > > > -Original Message- > From: OS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Cooker] Getting there > > > I posted an e-mail regarding the java debugger supplied with the Sun Java > SDK. > > Well, after much messing around I have found that Sun, bless 'em, missed one > file out of the SDK tar ball (it was in ALL the RC releases !) and didn't > copy > a library file to /usr/lib ! (Thanks to Blackdown for that by suggesting > using > strace.) > > Any way, to another problem. The java debugger now complains about not being > able to connect to the local host. > > So, I tried ping localhost, and ping 127.0.0.1 > > 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > Why doesn't this work anymore !?!?!?!?!? > > It used to work, well when I say used to, I haven't tried ping'ing for ages > and > ages. > > Anyway, is this why I can't connect to localhost, or is this a red herring. > > Help please, > Owen
RE: [Cooker] Getting there
Thanks for replying ifconfig produces nothing, i.e. no lo, no ppp0, nothing. /etc/hosts : 127.0.0.1 localhost What next ? Owen On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > This may sound like really simple steps, but did you.. > > - Run "ifconfig" and make sure that the "lo" interface is activated? > > - Check the /etc/hosts file and make sure that the name "localhost" is > associated with an IP address, hopefully 127.0.0.1? > > > Don Head > Linux Mentor > 1 800 826-4640 x1942 > 1 314 692-1942 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935] > [IRC - EFnet, #WaveTech, Don-Wave] > > > -Original Message- > From: OS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Cooker] Getting there > > > I posted an e-mail regarding the java debugger supplied with the Sun Java > SDK. > > Well, after much messing around I have found that Sun, bless 'em, missed one > file out of the SDK tar ball (it was in ALL the RC releases !) and didn't > copy > a library file to /usr/lib ! (Thanks to Blackdown for that by suggesting > using > strace.) > > Any way, to another problem. The java debugger now complains about not being > able to connect to the local host. > > So, I tried ping localhost, and ping 127.0.0.1 > > 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > Why doesn't this work anymore !?!?!?!?!? > > It used to work, well when I say used to, I haven't tried ping'ing for ages > and > ages. > > Anyway, is this why I can't connect to localhost, or is this a red herring. > > Help please, > Owen
Re: [Cooker] SECURITY BUGs in "security_check.sh"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Stefan Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I found some errors in "security_check.sh". Here is my list of fixes=20
> > and attached you can find a patch against "msec-0.9-14mdk" rpm
>
> Hi Stefan,
> cool too see that many people give many interest in msec,
> however, please never ever frightened me like that with
> a subject like that...
>
> Cause it's not a "SECURITY BUGs"
OK, let's say a bug in a security-package ;-)
> >
> > -8<-->8--
> > * Files that should not be owned by someone else or readable:
> >-> added ".gnupg/secring.gpg" as Mandrake uses GNUPG as default
> ok :)
> It 's very difficult to include all important file :)
that's right, but as Mandrake switched to GNUPG I thaught it would be
a good Idea
> [...]
> >-> replaced username-check by uid-check (avoids false output=20
> > by usernames > 8 char, e.g. "fetchmail" !=3D "fetchmai" )
> This one is cool,
> however i first started to look at uid,
> but this is a problem with novice users...
> In the end i will probably do a UID check, and search the username
> associated to the UID in question.
When You'll look at my patch you'll find uid and names be displayed ...
>
> >-> removed "~lp" and "~mail" from group-check as their homedirs
> > are group writeable
>
> wrong completly depend on your configuration.
> alph:~$ ls -l mail
> -rw---1 yoannyoann5057 Feb 11 12:40 mail
> alph:~$
--8<-->8---
$ rpm -qlvp /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/filesystem-1.3.5-1mdk.noarch.rpm |
grep mail
drwxrwxr-x root mail 1024 Feb 6 1996 /var/spool/mail
$ rpm -qlvp /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/lpr-0.48-1mdk.i586.rpm | grep spool
drwxrwxr-x root daemon 4096 Jan 10 14:30 /var/spool/lpd
--8<-->8---
that's why I "removed" those two from being displayed ...
(Note: Your rpms from iso-2 ...)
> [...]
> However, be carefull that msec should got many architecture change in
> a few time, so do not bother too much :)
waiting to see what will come next ...
> > diff -uNr /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh.orig
>/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh
> > [...]
> > ### Check home directories. Directories should not be owned by someone else or
>writeable.
> > -awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
> > -while read uid homedir; do
> > +awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $3 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
> > +while read username uid homedir; do
> > if [[ -d ${homedir} ]] ; then
> > -file=`ls -ldg ${homedir}`
> > -printf "$uid $file\n"
> > +realuid=`ls -ldgn ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
> > +realuser=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
> > +permissions=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $1 }'`
> > +printf "${permissions} ${username} (${uid}) ${realuser}
>(${realuid})\n"
> > fi
> > -done | awk '$1 != $4 && $4 != "root" \
> > -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is owned by " $4 "." }
> > - $2 ~ /^-w/ \
> > -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is group writeable." }
> > - $2 ~ /^-...w/ \
> > -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
> > +done | awk '$3 != $5 && $5 != "(0)" \
> > +{ print "user=" $2 $3 " : home directory is owned by " $4 $5 "." }
> > + $1 ~ /^dw/ && $2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail" \
>
> $2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail"
> this one is wrong as i've said above..
I explained my "removing" above ... BTW as you can see my output is:
user=test1(503) : home directory is owned by test2(504).
so you have uid and usernames displayed ...
--
Tschüss und bis demnächst,
Stefan
RE: [Cooker] Getting there
This may sound like really simple steps, but did you.. - Run "ifconfig" and make sure that the "lo" interface is activated? - Check the /etc/hosts file and make sure that the name "localhost" is associated with an IP address, hopefully 127.0.0.1? Don Head Linux Mentor 1 800 826-4640 x1942 1 314 692-1942 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935] [IRC - EFnet, #WaveTech, Don-Wave] -Original Message- From: OS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Getting there I posted an e-mail regarding the java debugger supplied with the Sun Java SDK. Well, after much messing around I have found that Sun, bless 'em, missed one file out of the SDK tar ball (it was in ALL the RC releases !) and didn't copy a library file to /usr/lib ! (Thanks to Blackdown for that by suggesting using strace.) Any way, to another problem. The java debugger now complains about not being able to connect to the local host. So, I tried ping localhost, and ping 127.0.0.1 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Why doesn't this work anymore !?!?!?!?!? It used to work, well when I say used to, I haven't tried ping'ing for ages and ages. Anyway, is this why I can't connect to localhost, or is this a red herring. Help please, Owen
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
very interesting. think i'll looking into! btw: w/ the ide-floppy interface, load speeds are much improved so i'm not too worried about that. anyways, it's better than having no rescue disk! especially when messing with /etc! On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Roger wrote: > > I have an ls120 drive, of which, doesn't have full kernel support yet for a > > rescue disk makingmi know i should have one as well. buying > > another 3 1/2 disk drive takes another irq, so is'nt the solution to my > > problem. (guess i hafta kernel patch it sometime). > > I've never gotten an LS-120 to successfully boot anything other than DOS. > However, if you make a DOS bootable LS-120, you can then install ZipSlack on > it. Makes a fine rescue disk, although it boots *slow*. ZipSlack can be > downloaded from Slackware's site, it's about 36 MB. -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > Good idea. By the way windows 2000 does something similar to this. > yippe. makes me wanna go out and spend $400 for it. > Pixel wrote: > > > > "geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > hi, > > > > > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image that can be > > > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something on your system? > > > > as for the rescue. 7.1 should have a good one. > > > > the idea is to use a rescue_stage2.img instead of mdkinst_stage2.img > > this file should be less than 15MB to fit in ramdisk. That way the cdrom can be > > removed after booting and replaced by another one :) -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
[Cooker] Getting there
I posted an e-mail regarding the java debugger supplied with the Sun Java SDK. Well, after much messing around I have found that Sun, bless 'em, missed one file out of the SDK tar ball (it was in ALL the RC releases !) and didn't copy a library file to /usr/lib ! (Thanks to Blackdown for that by suggesting using strace.) Any way, to another problem. The java debugger now complains about not being able to connect to the local host. So, I tried ping localhost, and ping 127.0.0.1 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Why doesn't this work anymore !?!?!?!?!? It used to work, well when I say used to, I haven't tried ping'ing for ages and ages. Anyway, is this why I can't connect to localhost, or is this a red herring. Help please, Owen
Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-2.2.15-0.8mdk
Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > have your guys implemented the patch for the ls120 diskette drive in this > kernel? (using the ide-floppy module) no. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] usb 2.0
Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > anybody working with the usb developers for 2.0 integration into the next > kernel or so? just curious. yes, the development begin. > www.usb.org/developers/usb20/ > it's suppose be much faster than 12 mb/sec, more like 480 mb/sec > just curioususb ver. 2.0 is suppose to be released sometime in 2000, also. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
- Original Message - From: geoffrey lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:12 AM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Rescue ISO? > hi, > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image that can be > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something on your system? > Pretty much been done already. As in DemoLinux? www.demolinux.org If you require some special tools, copy the CD to a partition, add the toolsand make a new CD (I did this to add Wordeprfect 8). Perhaps with some encouragement, the folks at DemoLinux will document what they have done so we all can create a custom distro (or a clone of our regular one) on a CD. Hoyt __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [Cooker] SECURITY BUGs in "security_check.sh"
Stefan Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I found some errors in "security_check.sh". Here is my list of fixes=20
> and attached you can find a patch against "msec-0.9-14mdk" rpm
Hi Stefan,
cool too see that many people give many interest in msec,
however, please never ever frightened me like that with
a subject like that...
Cause it's not a "SECURITY BUGs"
>
> -8<-->8--
> * Files that should not be owned by someone else or readable:
>-> added ".gnupg/secring.gpg" as Mandrake uses GNUPG as default
ok :)
It 's very difficult to include all important file :)
>
> * Files that should not be owned by someone else or writeable:
>-> replaced "-" by "." in awk-script beause ".ssh" is a directory
>
ok
> * Check home directories. Directories should not be owned by=20
> someone else or writeable:
>-> replaced "-" by "d" in awk-script beause "~" is a directory
ok
>-> replaced username-check by uid-check (avoids false output=20
> by usernames > 8 char, e.g. "fetchmail" !=3D "fetchmai" )
This one is cool,
however i first started to look at uid,
but this is a problem with novice users...
In the end i will probably do a UID check, and search the username
associated to the UID in question.
>-> removed "~lp" and "~mail" from group-check as their homedirs
> are group writeable
wrong completly depend on your configuration.
alph:~$ ls -l mail
-rw---1 yoannyoann5057 Feb 11 12:40 mail
alph:~$
here is the code review :)
I will implement the majority of the things here on monday,
and do a new release.
However, be carefull that msec should got many architecture change in
a few time, so do not bother too much :)
>
> --=20
> Tsch=FCss und bis demn=E4chst,
>
>Stefan
> --128648DC0EAFC1CFC26A6F49
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> name="security_check.sh.patch"
> Content-Disposition: inline;
> filename="security_check.sh.patch"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> diff -uNr /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh.orig
>/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh
> --- /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh.orig Thu Jan 6 18:14:37 2000
> +++ /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh Fri Feb 25 20:30:16 2000
> @@ -55,7 +55,8 @@
>
> if [[ ${CHECK_PERMS} == yes ]]; then
> # Files that should not be owned by someone else or readable.
> -list=".netrc .rhosts .shosts .Xauthority .pgp/secring.pgp .ssh/identity
>.ssh/random_seed"
> +list=".netrc .rhosts .shosts .Xauthority .gnupg/secring.gpg \
> +.pgp/secring.pgp .ssh/identity .ssh/random_seed"
> awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $3 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd |
> while read username uid homedir; do
> for f in ${list} ; do
> @@ -95,9 +96,9 @@
> done
> done | awk '$1 != $6 && $6 != "0" \
> { print "\t\t- " $3 " : file is owned by uid " $6 "." }
> - $4 ~ /^-w/ \
> + $4 ~ /^.w/ \
this one is ok.
> { print "\t\t- " $3 " : file is group writeable." }
> - $4 ~ /^-...w/ \
> + $4 ~ /^w/ \
> { print "\t\t- " $3 " : file is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
this one is ok
>
> if [[ -s ${TMP} ]]; then
> @@ -106,18 +107,20 @@
> fi
>
> ### Check home directories. Directories should not be owned by someone else or
>writeable.
> -awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
> -while read uid homedir; do
> +awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $3 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
> +while read username uid homedir; do
> if [[ -d ${homedir} ]] ; then
> -file=`ls -ldg ${homedir}`
> -printf "$uid $file\n"
> +realuid=`ls -ldgn ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
> +realuser=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
> +permissions=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $1 }'`
> +printf "${permissions} ${username} (${uid}) ${realuser}
>(${realuid})\n"
> fi
> -done | awk '$1 != $4 && $4 != "root" \
> -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is owned by " $4 "." }
> - $2 ~ /^-w/ \
> -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is group writeable." }
> - $2 ~ /^-...w/ \
> -{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
> +done | awk '$3 != $5 && $5 != "(0)" \
> +{ print "user=" $2 $3 " : home directory is owned by " $4 $5 "." }
> + $1 ~ /^dw/ && $2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail" \
$2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail"
this one is wrong as i've said above..
> +{ print "user=" $2 $3" : home directory is group writeable." }
> + $1 ~ /^d...w/ \
> +{ print "user=" $2 $3" : home directory is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
>
> if [[ -s $TMP ]] ; then
> printf "\nSecurity Warning: these home directory should not be owned by
>someone else or writeable :\n" >> ${SECURITY}
>
> --128648DC0EAFC1CFC26A6F49
Re: [Cooker] Another Cooker ISO issue
actually I offer a service to do this. WH Bouterse wrote: > > Here in Juneau we have cable modem access > so downloading massive files quickly is not so > much a problem. However; > > We may be relocating to the interior in a more > remote area which has only a 2.2kps connection > if you are lucky. Others who are much more > knowledgable than I are in this same situation > so I was wondering... > > Is there, or would there be, anyway to get an ISO > Cooker image burned to CD perhaps like once a month > or two upon request, or... ? I know one can get > cheap LM 7.0 etc from various companies but not ones > closer to the "Edge". I personally would even be willing > to consider some sort or subscription service whereby for > a monthly or annual fee, I would be sent the latest updates, > contribs. etc. > > Is this possible, or maybe even actually taking place as I speak > but not generally known? > > Having to go "Cold Turkey" from my ability to actively and rapidly > interract with Mandrake releases is something I can deal > with if necessary, but am hoping there are methods available > to "compensate for the loss" > > Basically I guess the issue is, > "how can I downgrade yet continue to upgrade?" > > Excuse the ramblings. > > William Bouterse > (presently of) > Juneau Alaska
[Cooker] Another Cooker ISO issue
Here in Juneau we have cable modem access so downloading massive files quickly is not so much a problem. However; We may be relocating to the interior in a more remote area which has only a 2.2kps connection if you are lucky. Others who are much more knowledgable than I are in this same situation so I was wondering... Is there, or would there be, anyway to get an ISO Cooker image burned to CD perhaps like once a month or two upon request, or... ? I know one can get cheap LM 7.0 etc from various companies but not ones closer to the "Edge". I personally would even be willing to consider some sort or subscription service whereby for a monthly or annual fee, I would be sent the latest updates, contribs. etc. Is this possible, or maybe even actually taking place as I speak but not generally known? Having to go "Cold Turkey" from my ability to actively and rapidly interract with Mandrake releases is something I can deal with if necessary, but am hoping there are methods available to "compensate for the loss" Basically I guess the issue is, "how can I downgrade yet continue to upgrade?" Excuse the ramblings. William Bouterse (presently of) Juneau Alaska
[Cooker] Re: Mozilla and fonts
from the quill of "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anybody else getting shitty font rendering in Mozilla? I have tried > the > M12 RPM on Contrib and the latest snapshots. It seems that any font > other than 12pt "unspecified" comes out this really ugly block font. > > Just wondering if it's only my box or if it's others before I start > bothering the mozilla folks about it. It was my box, and will be yours too! > On the other hand is *anybody* getting decent looking fonts, in > differing faces and sizes? Mine looks great now! The problem is the mdk-helvetica fonts. Get rid of them in your xfs config file and mozilla will look real pertty! Mandrake folks? Comment? b. -- Brian J. Murrell InterLinx Support Services, Inc. North Vancouver, B.C. 604 983 UNIX Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > Pablo Saratxaga wrote: > > > Kaixo! > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > > > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > > > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > > > > Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) > > > > > How about CVS versions? > > > > Should we release CVS versions ? > > I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to put out CVS > > versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get the CVS sources, > > how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) > > > > > Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? > > > > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > Ki ça vos våye bén, > > Pablo Saratxaga > > > > http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 > > Well as of current the CVS version of last night is a hell of a lot more stable > the M13 is, M13 was about as stable as running windows;) but as of feb 25th the > CVS release is stable enough to use day to day, so untill m14 comes out I would > sugest that we go with a cvs copy possibly would make it possible to just > install and start using in replacement for netscape. > > -DarkWlf If its as stable as you mentioned... why not I would like to 'replace' netscape asap ;o) would it be available as rpm or tar file? (or both) Sergio -- M A N D R A K E "The friendliest LINUX Distro" Time is in Our Side --- Distribuidores de los productos Alaska http://www.alaska.com.mx Linux en Español
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, > > > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image that can be > > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something on your system? > > As for the rescue. 7.1 should have a good one. > > The idea is to use a rescue_stage2.img instead of mdkinst_stage2.img > this file should be less than 15MB to fit in ramdisk. That way the cdrom can be > removed after booting and replaced by another one :) Sounds nice. The only thing I want to avoid is having to use floppys. If it can fit on the normal CD - great! Please consider having some editor other than vi though, like jed or at least pico. We emacs people don't like and can't use vi* and since emacs couldn't fit in 15 MB... :) -- [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom: No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats -- approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less.
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[Cooker] SECURITY BUGs in "security_check.sh"
Hello everybody,
I found some errors in "security_check.sh". Here is my list of fixes
and attached you can find a patch against "msec-0.9-14mdk" rpm
-8<-->8--
* Files that should not be owned by someone else or readable:
-> added ".gnupg/secring.gpg" as Mandrake uses GNUPG as default
* Files that should not be owned by someone else or writeable:
-> replaced "-" by "." in awk-script beause ".ssh" is a directory
* Check home directories. Directories should not be owned by
someone else or writeable:
-> replaced "-" by "d" in awk-script beause "~" is a directory
-> replaced username-check by uid-check (avoids false output
by usernames > 8 char, e.g. "fetchmail" != "fetchmai" )
-> removed "~lp" and "~mail" from group-check as their homedirs
are group writeable
-8<-->8--
I think it's time to give MandrakeUpdate some work ;-)
--
Tschüss und bis demnächst,
Stefan
diff -uNr /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh.orig
/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh
--- /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.sh.orig Thu Jan 6 18:14:37 2000
+++ /etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security_check.shFri Feb 25 20:30:16 2000
@@ -55,7 +55,8 @@
if [[ ${CHECK_PERMS} == yes ]]; then
# Files that should not be owned by someone else or readable.
-list=".netrc .rhosts .shosts .Xauthority .pgp/secring.pgp .ssh/identity
.ssh/random_seed"
+list=".netrc .rhosts .shosts .Xauthority .gnupg/secring.gpg \
+.pgp/secring.pgp .ssh/identity .ssh/random_seed"
awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $3 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd |
while read username uid homedir; do
for f in ${list} ; do
@@ -95,9 +96,9 @@
done
done | awk '$1 != $6 && $6 != "0" \
{ print "\t\t- " $3 " : file is owned by uid " $6 "." }
- $4 ~ /^-w/ \
+ $4 ~ /^.w/ \
{ print "\t\t- " $3 " : file is group writeable." }
- $4 ~ /^-...w/ \
+ $4 ~ /^w/ \
{ print "\t\t- " $3 " : file is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
if [[ -s ${TMP} ]]; then
@@ -106,18 +107,20 @@
fi
### Check home directories. Directories should not be owned by someone else or
writeable.
-awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
-while read uid homedir; do
+awk -F: '/^[^+-]/ { print $1 " " $3 " " $6 }' /etc/passwd | \
+while read username uid homedir; do
if [[ -d ${homedir} ]] ; then
-file=`ls -ldg ${homedir}`
-printf "$uid $file\n"
+realuid=`ls -ldgn ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
+realuser=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $3 }'`
+permissions=`ls -ldg ${homedir}| awk '{ print $1 }'`
+printf "${permissions} ${username} (${uid}) ${realuser}
+(${realuid})\n"
fi
-done | awk '$1 != $4 && $4 != "root" \
-{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is owned by " $4 "." }
- $2 ~ /^-w/ \
-{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is group writeable." }
- $2 ~ /^-...w/ \
-{ print "user=" $1 " : home directory is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
+done | awk '$3 != $5 && $5 != "(0)" \
+{ print "user=" $2 $3 " : home directory is owned by " $4 $5 "." }
+ $1 ~ /^dw/ && $2 != "lp" && $2 != "mail" \
+{ print "user=" $2 $3" : home directory is group writeable." }
+ $1 ~ /^d...w/ \
+{ print "user=" $2 $3" : home directory is other writeable." }' > ${TMP}
if [[ -s $TMP ]] ; then
printf "\nSecurity Warning: these home directory should not be owned by
someone else or writeable :\n" >> ${SECURITY}
Re: [Cooker] fortune-mod-1.0-26mdk.i586.rpm
Pablo Saratxaga wrote: > I've exchanged some emails with the author of 'fortune-mod' (btw, he was > very pleased with the improvements in the Mandrake package). > He plans to make it modular for next version, so a 'fortunes-offending' > package can be put available somewhere for people who want it for example. So there is hope ;-) > The reason why it is not available on the *compiled* version on our CDs > is a long history; I bet it is exactly the kind of long histories I dislike so very much. > but anyway they are on the sources; you can get the src.rpm > comment out the line %patch0 of the spec file, then rebuild it. Thank you very much, that's good enough for me. ~Andreas Simon
Re: [Cooker] GIMP 1.1.7
WH Bouterse wrote: > I have been experimenting with GIMP 1.1.7 > from the contrib directory and find it very > stable and usable! In fact, gimp is being stabilized and 1.2 is close to be released. > Is there something I can do to try and crash it !? > Are there obvious bugs I haven't been bitten by yet? play with all plugins. Some were used to be very instable (like the interface for perl). > It seems to work as well or actually better than > the 1.0.4 release. > Am I missing something (as usual) or is the fact that > it is 1.1x and not 1.even.x precludes it from inclusion in > lets say 'Cooker' which appears to be at least as stable > as its predecessor 7.x ?? 1.1.x 'll never replace 1.0.x in main CD as it is said to be unstable (though lastest 1.1.x may be more stable than 0.99x). 1.0.x 'll eventually be updated to 1.2.0 when this one come alive (but only if it's table of course). -- www.linux-mandrake.com somewhere between the playstation and the craystation Thierry
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[Cooker] GIMP 1.1.7
geoffrey lee wrote: > > yo! > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:26 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Cooker] mozilla > > > > > > Pablo Saratxaga wrote: > > > > > Kaixo! > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > > > > > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > > > > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > > > > > > Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) > > > > > > > How about CVS versions? > > > > > > Should we release CVS versions ? > > > I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to > > put out CVS > > > versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get > > the CVS sources, > > > how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) > > > > > > > Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > -- > > > Ki ça vos våye bén, > > > Pablo Saratxaga > > > > > > http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key I have been experimenting with GIMP 1.1.7 from the contrib directory and find it very stable and usable! Is there something I can do to try and crash it !? Are there obvious bugs I haven't been bitten by yet? It seems to work as well or actually better than the 1.0.4 release. Am I missing something (as usual) or is the fact that it is 1.1x and not 1.even.x precludes it from inclusion in lets say 'Cooker' which appears to be at least as stable as its predecessor 7.x ?? Heck even kde2 seems to be working pretty dang well for me and I am not usually a KDE fan. Just wondering William Bouterse Juneau Alaska
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Can I suggest that if you wish to unsubscribe from this list you send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: unsubscribe cooker in the subject. SYMPA is the automated mailing list manager, which will process your command messages. It is a very common feature of mailing lists to send control messages to one address and messages to be shared with the members of the group to the communal address, in this case: [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards, Chris From: "Guy Gardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:54:04 -0600 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Cooker] unsubscribe > > - Original Message - > From: "Guy T. Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel RPMS are not providing "kernel" > > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > > > > I also want to bring up again the problem with kernel-2.2.15-0.7mdk > not > > > > > properly exporting best_memset for some reason. I had to revert to > the > > > > > 2.2.14 kernel to get vmware working. One of it's kernel modules > > > > > complains about best_memset not being available on the 2.2.15 > kernel. > > > > > > > > ask this on the lmkml but not sure if they will not reject you by a : > > > > > > > > we don't support binary drivers > > > > > > Yep... if a binary driver works for you it is basically luck (and maybe > > > good testing by the vendor). Binary modules depend on basic things like > > > sizes of types not changing, sizes of core structures not changing, > > > etc. Both kernel and compiler options used at the time of the kernel > > > build affect these variables. In order to completely support a _single_ > > > distro, a VMWare (for example) needs to provide a binary module for > > > > > > * kernel-linus > > > * kernel-fb > > > * kernel > > > * kernel-smp > > > * kernel-smp-fb > > > * kernel-your-flavor-of-the-month > > > > > > ...and also provide custom builds for people with highmem/non-highmem > > > cconfigurations, etc. > > > > > > For MandrakeSoft, I think it is MOSTLY the same situation. But since we > > > are a vendor, we can make "quick hacks" if they are safe and get some > > > binary modules working. > > > > > > So... I think exporting "best_memset" from all our kernels is a safe > > > and good patch... > > > > It should be noted that this isn't a "binary module" problem. When VMware > > installs, it _compiles_ new modules to go with your existing kernel, > unless > > you have one it knows about (i.e. you're running genuine and unmodified > > RedHat). You get the best_memset error when attempting to load the new > > module you just compiled! > > > > I had this error come up before while using the 2.2.14pre kernels, and had > > to revert to 2.2.13. When 2.2.14 was officially released, the problem > went > > away. Based on what the poster above is saying, it sounds like the > problem > > has reappeared in 2.2.15pre again. Odd as this sounds, it seems like the > > problem always and only occurs with "pre" kernels. > > >
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- Original Message - From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re[2]: kernel RPMS are not providing "kernel" > "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > ask this on the lmkml > > > > lmkml? > > linux-kernel mailiing list : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > --Chmouel >
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- Original Message - From: "Guy T. Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel RPMS are not providing "kernel" > On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > > > I also want to bring up again the problem with kernel-2.2.15-0.7mdk not > > > > properly exporting best_memset for some reason. I had to revert to the > > > > 2.2.14 kernel to get vmware working. One of it's kernel modules > > > > complains about best_memset not being available on the 2.2.15 kernel. > > > > > > ask this on the lmkml but not sure if they will not reject you by a : > > > > > > we don't support binary drivers > > > > Yep... if a binary driver works for you it is basically luck (and maybe > > good testing by the vendor). Binary modules depend on basic things like > > sizes of types not changing, sizes of core structures not changing, > > etc. Both kernel and compiler options used at the time of the kernel > > build affect these variables. In order to completely support a _single_ > > distro, a VMWare (for example) needs to provide a binary module for > > > > * kernel-linus > > * kernel-fb > > * kernel > > * kernel-smp > > * kernel-smp-fb > > * kernel-your-flavor-of-the-month > > > > ...and also provide custom builds for people with highmem/non-highmem > > cconfigurations, etc. > > > > For MandrakeSoft, I think it is MOSTLY the same situation. But since we > > are a vendor, we can make "quick hacks" if they are safe and get some > > binary modules working. > > > > So... I think exporting "best_memset" from all our kernels is a safe > > and good patch... > > It should be noted that this isn't a "binary module" problem. When VMware > installs, it _compiles_ new modules to go with your existing kernel, unless > you have one it knows about (i.e. you're running genuine and unmodified > RedHat). You get the best_memset error when attempting to load the new > module you just compiled! > > I had this error come up before while using the 2.2.14pre kernels, and had > to revert to 2.2.13. When 2.2.14 was officially released, the problem went > away. Based on what the poster above is saying, it sounds like the problem > has reappeared in 2.2.15pre again. Odd as this sounds, it seems like the > problem always and only occurs with "pre" kernels. >
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- Original Message - From: "WH Bouterse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: [Cooker] menu needs libpopt.so.0 > > 'menu-2.1.5-2mdk needs libpopt.so.0' > > Now what did I miss this time. > Three days away from the techno-world > and I become even more clueless:) > > I thought I checked everything !? > in rpmfind.net-cooker. > Also ChangeLog-List? > > WH Bouterse >
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- Original Message - From: "Pixel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] menu needs libpopt.so.0 > WH Bouterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 'menu-2.1.5-2mdk needs libpopt.so.0' > > pixel@leia:~/gi>grep "^menu" /export/Mandrake/base/depslist > menu-2.1.5-2mdk popt-1.5-0.4mdk > >
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- Original Message - From: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: [Cooker] printer problem with mdk 7.0 iso2 > have a Brother HL-1240 (uses the hp laser jet 4/5/6 driver) > > prints the test acii page fine. when printing the postscipt (graphics if i > have it named wrong), it only prints the upper/left 1/4 of the graphics page. > > a more serious problem is when i print from kedit (or any text editor), it > still is cutting the top margin short by 1 line and teh left margin is being > cut by 2 character widths! > > -- > > > > Sent from: > > Lattitude (deg): 32.7130 > Longitude (deg): -117.1530 > Altitude (ft): 410.0 > GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) > > > > Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! > > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ > > Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0 >
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- Original Message - From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re[2]: kernel RPMS are not providing "kernel" > "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Funny thing is that from what I can tell (and I am not a seasoned kernel > > hacker by any stretch of the immagination) best_memset is supposed to be > > exported. See arch/i386/kernel/i386_ksyms.c. The .config for the > > framebuffer version (the only one I checked) of the kernel sure seems to > > have CONFIG_X86_CPU_OPTIMIZATIONS=y so I don't know why it is not being > > exported. > > Is there a way to examine the actual kernel image to determine if a > > symbol is exported? > > System.map > > -- > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > --Chmouel >
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- Original Message - From: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 6:05 PM Subject: [Cooker] Printer Brother HP-1240 -- bug/problem fixed?!? --dunno > seems to be some corrections are need to be placed thru the "Linux Printer > Database Site" (forgot the url) > > Brother HP-1240 Printer uses the "HP Laserjet IIp" driver(!!!) and NOT the "HP > Laserjet 4/5/6" driver. > > as such, after my breif (very helpful tip from Brother Tech Support), this > problem is now solved with printing only the "test pages (ascii and > postscirpt) within the printtool - the left and top margings being "cut" short > by 1-2 character widths. But, thru further experimentation with "kedit" and > "netscape", they still print by cutting the margins and only printing the 1/4 > page in netscape! > > Maybe this problem could be atleast corrected w/i the mdk distro > release by adding an entry for the Brother HL-1240 printer (possible? > dunno...whatever). > > > > > > *Note on additional research: Also, was advised (thru same tech support guy) > that the Brother HL-1250 printer (very similar to 1240) should use the "HP > Laserjet 4" driver. Unknown on further specifics since i don't have a 1250! > (don't know if this is the hp laserjet 4/5/6 or hp laserjet 4- dithered > drivers). >
Re: [Cooker] fortune-mod-1.0-26mdk.i586.rpm
Kaixo! On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:04:59PM +0100, Andreas Simon wrote: > God! I just realized there are no offending fortunes included > in this package! Why? This is so sad. > > Please include ALL fortunes in the next version or make > a additional offending rpm package. I've exchanged some emails with the author of 'fortune-mod' (btw, he was very pleased with the improvements in the Mandrake package). He plans to make it modular for next version, so a 'fortunes-offending' package can be put available somewhere for people who want it for example. The reason why it is not available on the *compiled* version on our CDs is a long history; but anyway they are on the sources; you can get the src.rpm comment out the line %patch0 of the spec file, then rebuild it. > > ~Andreas -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
[Cooker] SUB cooker
SUB cooker Cable tester?
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
Good idea. By the way windows 2000 does something similar to this. Pixel wrote: > > "geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > hi, > > > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image that can be > > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something on your system? > > as for the rescue. 7.1 should have a good one. > > the idea is to use a rescue_stage2.img instead of mdkinst_stage2.img > this file should be less than 15MB to fit in ramdisk. That way the cdrom can be > removed after booting and replaced by another one :)
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
Pablo Saratxaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > IMHO mozilla-5.0-0.M13.1mdk would be better. "0.13" won't tell much to people; > but having "M13" (which is the official numbering) is inmediately > understandable by anyone. The leading 0. is only to avoid that the final > version (that is 5.0 with no Mxx) could be considered as a lower version > (as I fear the "M" will be considered as higher than "1"). agree -- Warly
[Cooker] glibc 2.1.3 stable available
hi, hot news from slashdot : glibc 2.1.3 released. it's the stable one, not the snapshots. geoffrey lee (snail talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Roger wrote: > I have an ls120 drive, of which, doesn't have full kernel support yet for a > rescue disk makingmi know i should have one as well. buying > another 3 1/2 disk drive takes another irq, so is'nt the solution to my > problem. (guess i hafta kernel patch it sometime). I've never gotten an LS-120 to successfully boot anything other than DOS. However, if you make a DOS bootable LS-120, you can then install ZipSlack on it. Makes a fine rescue disk, although it boots *slow*. ZipSlack can be downloaded from Slackware's site, it's about 36 MB.
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
Kaixo! On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 08:25:36AM -0600, Lord And Master;) wrote: > Well as of current the CVS version of last night is a hell of a lot more stable > the M13 is, M13 was about as stable as running windows;) but as of feb 25th the > CVS release is stable enough to use day to day, so untill m14 comes out I would > sugest that we go with a cvs copy possibly would make it possible to just > install and start using in replacement for netscape. Mmh, so if it is stable enough I'll begin to look at it for the i18n support (Netscape really and absolutely sucks in that aspect; only half of the languages supported by Linux-Mandrake can be displayed with Netscape 4.7...) > > -DarkWlf -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
RE: [Cooker] Made Anonymous by www.privacyx.com -- Spam
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, geoffrey lee wrote: > sure a lot of spam on this mailing list...can something be done? I don't know what this mailing list runs on, but on some other mailing lists I've subscribed to, all mail that's not from someone subscribed to the list is automatically rejected. This'll stop most spam (since they've usually just harvested the email addy from the web page, not bothered to subscribe to the list).
RE: [Cooker] mozilla
yo! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] mozilla > > > Pablo Saratxaga wrote: > > > Kaixo! > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > > > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > > > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > > > > Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) > > > > > How about CVS versions? > > > > Should we release CVS versions ? > > I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to > put out CVS > > versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get > the CVS sources, > > how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) > > > > > Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? > > > > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > Ki ça vos våye bén, > > Pablo Saratxaga > > > > http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key > ID: 0x8F0E4975 > > Well as of current the CVS version of last night is a hell of a > lot more stable > the M13 is, M13 was about as stable as running windows;) but as > of feb 25th the > CVS release is stable enough to use day to day, so untill m14 > comes out I would > sugest that we go with a cvs copy possibly would make it in the current distro, no, unless there is a strong reason e.g. the "stable" is not so stable after all ;-) but i guess it should go in the contrib. there are quite a number of devel stuff on contrib right now e.g. hackparted hackperl gimp 1.1.7 ... > possible to just > install and start using in replacement for netscape. > speaking of netscape, 4.72 has been released, but their 128 bit download seems to be broken (cgi script problem?) > -DarkWlf > >
[Cooker] fortune-mod-1.0-26mdk.i586.rpm
God! I just realized there are no offending fortunes included in this package! Why? This is so sad. Please include ALL fortunes in the next version or make a additional offending rpm package. ~Andreas
RE: [Cooker] mozilla
yo! > -Original Message- > From: Pablo Saratxaga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] mozilla > > > Kaixo! > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > > Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) M13 is the official numbering. i guess that should be followed in some way. > > > How about CVS versions? > > Should we release CVS versions ? > I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to put out CVS > versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get the > CVS sources, > how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) > > > Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? maybe the "stable" and cvs could both be released, the cvs would of course go into contrib. that's for folks who absolutely needs to stay on the bleeding edge ;-) > > > > Stefan > > -- > Ki ça vos våye bén, > Pablo Saratxaga > http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
> Kaixo! > > > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) I just forgot to hold down the shift key ;-) > > How about CVS versions? > Should we release CVS versions ? in cooker? no. In contrib? maybe. make it hack_mozilla-cvs2225.1mdk or something like that... > I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to put out CVS > versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get the CVS sources, > how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) I don't quite agree with you on the release time... I'm also getting interested when people on /. are talking about the cvs getting better & better... So, why not put the mozilla cvs rpm's in contrib, let more people have a try... (Maybe this should be a hint to the mozilla project: make nightly build rpm's!!!) On the other hand... if you get a "bad day" out of CVS, then things could get funny... ;-) Stefan
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
Pablo Saratxaga wrote: > Kaixo! > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and > > Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) > > > How about CVS versions? > > Should we release CVS versions ? > I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to put out CVS > versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get the CVS sources, > how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) > > > Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? > > > > Stefan > > -- > Ki ça vos våye bén, > Pablo Saratxaga > > http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 Well as of current the CVS version of last night is a hell of a lot more stable the M13 is, M13 was about as stable as running windows;) but as of feb 25th the CVS release is stable enough to use day to day, so untill m14 comes out I would sugest that we go with a cvs copy possibly would make it possible to just install and start using in replacement for netscape. -DarkWlf
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
Kaixo! On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... > make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and Why not 0.M13 ? M13 is more meaningful than m13 (at least for me) > How about CVS versions? Should we release CVS versions ? I think milestones are out often enough that we don't need to put out CVS versions. (and people that really want them knows how to get the CVS sources, how to make a tarball out of them, and type rpm -b ...) > Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? > > Stefan -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
Kaixo! On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 11:23:08AM +0100, Warly wrote: > > With the scheme about development version addressed with decimal number, > the right name would be > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... IMHO mozilla-5.0-0.M13.1mdk would be better. "0.13" won't tell much to people; but having "M13" (which is the official numbering) is inmediately understandable by anyone. The leading 0. is only to avoid that the final version (that is 5.0 with no Mxx) could be considered as a lower version (as I fear the "M" will be considered as higher than "1"). > -- > Warly -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
> With the scheme about development version addressed with decimal number, > the right name would be > > mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... make that mozilla-5.0-0.m13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and How about CVS versions? Any suggestions on how to name them? mozilla-5.0-0.cvs2225? Stefan
Re: [Cooker] mozilla
With the scheme about development version addressed with decimal number, the right name would be mozilla-5.0-0.13.1mdk for M13 release 1, and mozilla-5.0-0.13.2mdk,... Now just have to check this renaming does not break too much things. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
"geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi, > > oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image that can be > burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something on your system? as for the rescue. 7.1 should have a good one. the idea is to use a rescue_stage2.img instead of mdkinst_stage2.img this file should be less than 15MB to fit in ramdisk. That way the cdrom can be removed after booting and replaced by another one :)
RE: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
hi, oh ok. :) i misunderstood your msg. so you want a ISO image that can be burned onto the CD-R for booting when you screw up something on your system? geoffrey lee (snail talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Hedbor > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO? > > > "geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, > > > > If your system is too broken to even use sash (linux 1 at the lilo boot > > prompt.) why don't you check out tomsrtbt... > > Well, often when I need a rescue disk is if I screw up a kernel > install. I normally do this now by booting the normal install and > using the shell vt to mount the harddrive and run lilo from it. So > running sash won't help since the system won't boot. :) > > > It uses kernel 2.0 + libc5 i think, but i hear that if you want > to use glibc > > you can, provided that yo have glibc placed somewhere on the > hasrd drive, > > and you can use chroot. a lot of the commands in toms are > actually clevwerly > > written shell scripts. > > That is just a thing - something that uses the same kernel, libc and > other tools would be a lot more valuable to me. > > > Vim and emacs?!! they wouldn't fit on one floppy...btw, > tomsrtbt does have > > vi. > > Well, that is why I was taking about making a CDROM ISO image. :) I > might simply do an install in vmware and make a iso of the entire > installed filesystem with single user as the default boot mode. The > problem then is that you'll get some weirdness with a read-only > filesystem. To do it "right" you would want at least /etc/ mounted on > a ramdisk. > > -- > [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] > If anything can go wrong, it will. >
[Cooker] RE: Made Anonymous by www.privacyx.com -- Spam
from the quill of "geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll <000901bf7f66$4f9fd5d0$020a@workstation1> > hi, > > sure a lot of spam on this mailing list...can something be done? Yes. Something CAN be done. b. -- Brian J. Murrell InterLinx Support Services, Inc. North Vancouver, B.C. 604 983 UNIX Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
i also think this would be extremely useful if a newbie get's into a "jam" and is being provided technical support via telephone. would make things much easier as too having essentially "any" needed tool "at your disposal". On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > Since I stopped using Slackware oh so many years ago, I haven't used > one distribution with a good rescue disk using standard tools. I have > never checked out the Mandrake rescue disk either - mostly due to the > requirement of actually using a floppy. > > What about providing a second iso-image that is a bootable system, for > rescue work. It could include all kinds of useful tools and not just > some weird special environment like the Redhat rescue (again, haven't > tried Mandrake's but Redhat's has always been completely useless). > > Basically, put the best system recovery tools and also stuff like your > "favorite" editor like vim and emacs on a decently sized, bootable > ISO image. > > Not only would it incredibly useful - I think it would be a great to > use when trying to convince people in upgrading to Mandrake. > > What do you think? > > -- > [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] > Hey, what do you expect from a culture that *drives* on *parkways* and > *parks* on *driveways*? > -- Gallagher -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
... i sort of like this idea. you know when floppy became a standard for backup media? well, i think the cdrom is well established as well and could be done the same way! most are bootable as well. i'm sure anyone that can boot the mandrake 7.0 cdrom would be able to use this. By the way, win98 rescue disk is essentially "read-only"! If you have the notch in the write protect position! So essentially, you have a nice idea, of which, i think is long over due but hindered because some people didn't have a bootable cd-rom about a year or 2 ago. I have an ls120 drive, of which, doesn't have full kernel support yet for a rescue disk makingmi know i should have one as well. buying another 3 1/2 disk drive takes another irq, so is'nt the solution to my problem. (guess i hafta kernel patch it sometime). But this would solve the problem of disk space. example: could burn your own cd-r of all the modules needed by your system and including system configuration settings for network etc of course the latter maybe stretching it allittle because most would start "browsing" with netscapelol. But having the basic essentials as the win98 rescue disk does is possible from what i see and probabley has already been done! just not published!! On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > "geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, > > > > If your system is too broken to even use sash (linux 1 at the lilo boot > > prompt.) why don't you check out tomsrtbt... > > Well, often when I need a rescue disk is if I screw up a kernel > install. I normally do this now by booting the normal install and > using the shell vt to mount the harddrive and run lilo from it. So > running sash won't help since the system won't boot. :) > > > It uses kernel 2.0 + libc5 i think, but i hear that if you want to use glibc > > you can, provided that yo have glibc placed somewhere on the hasrd drive, > > and you can use chroot. a lot of the commands in toms are actually clevwerly > > written shell scripts. > > That is just a thing - something that uses the same kernel, libc and > other tools would be a lot more valuable to me. > > > Vim and emacs?!! they wouldn't fit on one floppy...btw, tomsrtbt does have > > vi. > > Well, that is why I was taking about making a CDROM ISO image. :) I > might simply do an install in vmware and make a iso of the entire > installed filesystem with single user as the default boot mode. The > problem then is that you'll get some weirdness with a read-only > filesystem. To do it "right" you would want at least /etc/ mounted on > a ramdisk. > > -- > [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] > If anything can go wrong, it will. -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
Re: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
"geoffrey lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > If your system is too broken to even use sash (linux 1 at the lilo boot > prompt.) why don't you check out tomsrtbt... Well, often when I need a rescue disk is if I screw up a kernel install. I normally do this now by booting the normal install and using the shell vt to mount the harddrive and run lilo from it. So running sash won't help since the system won't boot. :) > It uses kernel 2.0 + libc5 i think, but i hear that if you want to use glibc > you can, provided that yo have glibc placed somewhere on the hasrd drive, > and you can use chroot. a lot of the commands in toms are actually clevwerly > written shell scripts. That is just a thing - something that uses the same kernel, libc and other tools would be a lot more valuable to me. > Vim and emacs?!! they wouldn't fit on one floppy...btw, tomsrtbt does have > vi. Well, that is why I was taking about making a CDROM ISO image. :) I might simply do an install in vmware and make a iso of the entire installed filesystem with single user as the default boot mode. The problem then is that you'll get some weirdness with a read-only filesystem. To do it "right" you would want at least /etc/ mounted on a ramdisk. -- [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] If anything can go wrong, it will.
RE: [Cooker] Rescue ISO?
hi, if your system is too broken to even use sash (linux 1 at the lilo boot prompt.) why don't you check out tomsrtbt... it uses kernel 2.0 + libc5 i think, but i hear that if you want to use glibc you can, provided that yo have glibc placed somewhere on the hasrd drive, and you can use chroot. a lot of the commands in toms are actually clevwerly written shell scripts. vim and emacs?!! they wouldn't fit on one floppy...btw, tomsrtbt does have vi. geoffrey lee (snail talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Hedbor > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Cooker] Rescue ISO? > > > > Since I stopped using Slackware oh so many years ago, I haven't used > one distribution with a good rescue disk using standard tools. I have > never checked out the Mandrake rescue disk either - mostly due to the > requirement of actually using a floppy. > > What about providing a second iso-image that is a bootable system, for > rescue work. It could include all kinds of useful tools and not just > some weird special environment like the Redhat rescue (again, haven't > tried Mandrake's but Redhat's has always been completely useless). > > Basically, put the best system recovery tools and also stuff like your > "favorite" editor like vim and emacs on a decently sized, bootable > ISO image. > > Not only would it incredibly useful - I think it would be a great to > use when trying to convince people in upgrading to Mandrake. > > What do you think? > > -- > [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] > Hey, what do you expect from a culture that *drives* on *parkways* and > *parks* on *driveways*? > -- Gallagher >
[Cooker] Rescue ISO?
Since I stopped using Slackware oh so many years ago, I haven't used one distribution with a good rescue disk using standard tools. I have never checked out the Mandrake rescue disk either - mostly due to the requirement of actually using a floppy. What about providing a second iso-image that is a bootable system, for rescue work. It could include all kinds of useful tools and not just some weird special environment like the Redhat rescue (again, haven't tried Mandrake's but Redhat's has always been completely useless). Basically, put the best system recovery tools and also stuff like your "favorite" editor like vim and emacs on a decently sized, bootable ISO image. Not only would it incredibly useful - I think it would be a great to use when trying to convince people in upgrading to Mandrake. What do you think? -- [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] Hey, what do you expect from a culture that *drives* on *parkways* and *parks* on *driveways*? -- Gallagher
