Re: [Cooker] Scrollkeeper segfaults

2002-10-09 Thread Götz Waschk

Am Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2002, 09:04:24 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Terjan:
> During this morning update, scrollkeeper segfaulted several times.

Yes, it looks like this happened after the libxml2 update. Rebuilding
the scrollkeeper package didn't help.
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Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.

2002-10-09 Thread Ron Stodden

Ben Reser wrote:

> So report it to bugs.kde.org
> I seriously doubt this is a packaging problem with Mandrake's KDE.

All the kde RPMs bear an mdk patch level.   The minute they are changed, 
the changer bears support accountability.  Likewise, KDE would be 
correct in refusing to support changed software.

This is how it has worked here in the past - the Mandrake KDE people do 
the bug reporting to KDE, which hopefully also includes all the Mandrake 
mdk patches.

I do wish you would reflect upon the subject before shooting your mouth 
off, Ben.   Wrong, again!

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[Cooker] Bugs in aRts and Brahms

2002-10-09 Thread Denix 13

Hi there,

It's been a long  time since I last saw a post  dealing with Brahms. Has
any of you folks been able to *use* it?

I didn't.

After having  spent hours  and hours trying  to get it  to work,  I have
written a  bug report. In order  not to clutter  the list with a  lot of
computer generated blah-blah  coming from the gdb  backtrace facility, I
made it under the form of an HTMLized version with color and all.

But beware that if you want to reproduce my steps, you need at least

-- the   packages  arts-1.0.3-7mdk.src.rpm   brahms-1.02-4mdk.src.rpm
-- a working gcc/g++/gdb  environment 
-- a basic understanding  of MIDI music sequencing

The URL is:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/denix13/Brahms/brahmsbug.html

Here are the bare facts:

The BrahmsMIDI sequencing applicationcoming from
Mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS/brahms-1.02-4mdk.i586.rpm does not work.

-- When invoked at the prompt as "brahms", it opens its main windows but
does not play neither manually entered notes nor imported MIDI files.

-- When invoked as  "brahms -o arts" in order to  output to aRts instead
of ALSA  (the default for  Mandrake version),  it aborts with  a message
notifying that brahms and aRts should be installed at the same location.
This message is misleading as brahms  and aRts are actually installed at
the same location, thanks Mandrake!

--  Further  investigation  shows  that  this  problem  is  due  to  the
incapacity of the  daemon artsd to dynamically load  a particular shared
library  when this  one is  stripped: not  stripping the  library solves
the  problem.  This  is  however  a bug  that  prevents  current  binary
implementation of aRts/Brahms to run on Mandrake.

--Buildingbrahmsfrom thesourceRPMfoundin
Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS/brahms-1.02-4mdk.src.rpm   fails,  probably
beacause  the configuration  is set  for  a parallel  make. However  the
source  coming from  a  forthcoming KMusic  application, which  includes
brahms, compiles flawlessly.

-- Nevertheless, brahms still crashes. Actually, the problem seems to be
located in the artsd daemon, which  segfaults as soon as Brahms wants to
play something.

I have sent emails  to the respective authors of aRts  and brahms, and I
would really appreciate your help as I need that kind of software for my
musical research.

More generally a working  full-featured MIDI sequencing musical software
in a free software framework can be a strong bonus for the reputation of
Mandrake Linux in the field of multimedia applications.

Long live Linux Mandrake!

Denix13




Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread James Sparenberg

On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 07:40, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> rowland penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > mandrake is advertised as being i586 (or pentium) compatible not i686 
> > (celeron, p2,p3,p4) so why have a directory named i686?. redhat 8.0 loads 
> 
> to optimize better for i686 and superior processors, what else?
> it's not incompatible with being i586 compatible, or explain me
> your reasoning.

Short sweet and to the point thanks Guillaume

James

> 
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
> 






Re: [Cooker] supermount?

2002-10-09 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy

> "L" == Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

L> On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:16, Mario Vazquez wrote:
>> There is a fix for supermount on cooker mirrors?

L> Yes.  It's called autofs.

Please explain:

   "Autofs can also be used to manage file systems on removable media,
   but Anvin considers this to be more "abuse than use," since autofs
   is not designed for that purpose.

http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/expo/lw-wednesday-autofs.html

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Re: [Cooker] Spell-Checker in OpenOffice

2002-10-09 Thread Vox


Silly "Hola from Lauber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

>   I installed the version of OpenOffice that came with 9.0 to find
> that there were two components missing on my system: the help system
> and, more disappointingly, the spell-checker.  I thought that the
> problem existed because I didn't run an upgrade from my older system,
> so I deleted my .openoffice directory and ran the setup again.  Once
> again, the spellchecker was non-existent.
>   Just as a final note, it appears that the thesaurus is alive and
> well.  I thought this was odd in that I thought they would both access
> the same file.

  as root do: "urpmi OpenOffice.org-help-en OpenOffice.org-l10n-en" to
  get the help and dict in english. Any other language, just change
  the en to the correct two letter code.

  Vox

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Re: [Cooker] Where is the dictionary file of open office?

2002-10-09 Thread Carfield Yim


> W. Kasberg wrote:
> > On Monday 07 October 2002 09:19, Robert C. Dowdy wrote:
> > 
> 
> >>Actually, I believe this *is* a bug.  I've installed 9.0 final three times
> >>and each time spell checking in OpenOffice.org was broken until I manually
> >>installed a US English myspell (which newbies certainly wouldn't know to
> >>do). It doesn't seem likely that OO.o should have broken spell-checking
> >>intentionally.  Maybe it's just a problem for US English installations. 
> >>I'm not sure.
> >>
> 
> Yes, even when installing from rpmdrake (haven't tried urpmi recently, 
> but that did the right thing last time), it seems that myspell-en_CA is 
> installed automatically when local is english.
>
I just download the dictionary from ooodi.sf.net, the size of English
dictionary is 695724 bytes, but the one come with Mandrake is just about
700 bytes, seen to me that it is an empty dictionary.

Besides, as OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.0.1-9mdk don't depend on
myspell-en_US, will it really use myspell-en_US for spell check?





[Cooker] Spell-Checker in OpenOffice

2002-10-09 Thread Hola from Lauber

  I installed the version of OpenOffice that came with 9.0 to find that 
there were two components missing on my system: the help system  and, more 
disappointingly, the spell-checker.  I thought that the problem existed 
because I didn't run an upgrade from my older system, so I deleted my 
.openoffice directory and ran the setup again.  Once again, the spellchecker 
was non-existent.
  Just as a final note, it appears that the thesaurus is alive and well.  I 
thought this was odd in that I thought they would both access the same file.


   --- Lauber

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Bob Walker

I agree with Stephane. Follow the standards. They were conceived with 
considerable thought.

bob

On Wednesday 09 October 2002 08:38 pm, Stephane Gourichon wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2002, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > Yes, though if the flexibility costs so much,
>
> It doesn't cost that much.
>
> One hard prerequisite is to think it right. But Mandrake doesn't have to
> do this job themselves: that's what the FHS is for.
>
> Standards make things clear. Following them is not as hard as designing
> them.
>
> > it may become questionable whether we do it or we do other things
> > which may be more useful to a larger number of people. I see your
> > problem as something valuable but rather a "niche" than something
> > really useful to a large number of people.
>
> Linux is used in a lot of universities, with small or large networks of
> client machines.
>
> Sometimes, a cascaded system exists, where central servers provide
> common apps, and local admins can tune local things. /usr exists for
> that. The Unix hierarchy has been doing this for ages. Every package
> that breaks this is flawed.
>
> Big Cybercafés sometime use this, too. Having /usr mounted via NFS make
> it much easier to maintain and secure... if it doesn't break all
> packages.
>
> How can you tell newbie sysadmins that files in /usr are meant to be
> frozen, variable files go to /var, when kscd puts its growing stuff
> inside /usr ...
>
>
> Besides this, the lack of unattended package upgrade facility for
> clusters of machines, and the flakey distribution upgrade that makes the
> sysadmins prefer install from scratch instead, currently limit Mandrake
> to a lonely desktop machine -- or a collection of lonely desktop
> machines, until you roll your own local hack to cope with this. The
> solution we have here is our homemade package that installs and
> configures a list of things.
>
> (To my knowledge, MandrakeUpdateRobot didn't make the reliable
> unattended daily update we expected, but sorry, I've not tried 9.0 yet,
> things might have changed. As for the upgrade, from 8.1 to 8.2 did break
> many things when we tried, too many to fix. If things have gone better
> with 9.0, tell me.)
>
> I have other ideas for alternative solutions, but I'll tell in a
> different mail.





Re: [Cooker] supermount?

2002-10-09 Thread Lonnie Borntreger

On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:16, Mario Vazquez wrote:
> There is a fix for supermount on cooker mirrors?

Yes.  It's called autofs.


TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger






[Cooker] Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update -q

2002-10-09 Thread Franco Silvestro

resended

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Segmentation fault  (core dumped) /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update -q
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:40:11 +0200
From: Franco Silvestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

with today cooker updates
[root@gattosil1h /]#urpmi.update -c -d -f RPMS RPMS2;urpmi --media RPMS,RPMS2
 -v --auto-select [...]
 124:libgnome-vfs2_0   
 ## 125:libbonobo
  ## 126:libbonobo2_0
   ## 127:libgnome2  
## 128:libgnome2_0   
 ## 129:galeon   
  ##
 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.38323: line 1:  6288 Segmentation fault  (core dumped)
 /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update -q /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.24580: line 7:  6299
 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update -q
 130:metacity  
 ## [...]
[root@gattosil1h /]# /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@gattosil1h /]# strace /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update
[...]
stat64("/usr/share/omf/gnome-db/gnome-db-pt_BR.omf", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
 st_size=339, ...}) = 0 brk(0x8057000)  = 0x8057000
brk(0x805a000)  = 0x805a000
brk(0x8063000)  = 0x8063000
open("/usr/share/omf/gnome-db/gnome-db-pt_BR.omf", O_RDONLY) = 6
fstat64(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=339, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
 0x40024000 read(6, "


Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 23.13 skrev Vincent Danen:
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 02:27 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> >>> I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32)
> >>> for
> >>> openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?
> >>>
> >>> Patches are applied to this mail.
> >>
> >> Tell me why it's interesting, or some sort of README for this.  It
> >> doesn't look like it changes very much of the core openssh code, so I
> >> won't reject it out of hand, but I don't feel like reading the patch
> >> from top to bottom to figure out what it does.
> >>
> >> If you can point me to more info on it, or tell me what it does and
> >> how
> >> it would be used, that would be helpful.  Also, any links to whether
> >> or
> >> not this fellow tried to get into the main openssh program or not (and
> >> if so, why it was rejected) would be useful as well.
> >
> > There's actually a link presented 2 times in the spec file patch
> > pointing to:
> >
> > http://www.vandyke.com/download/os/pks_ossh.html
> >
> > On that page there's a link to:
> >
> > http://www.vandyke.com/technology/draft-ietf-secsh-publickey-
> > subsystem.txt
>
> I read part of the draft and nosed around the site.  Can't say that I
> really care to include this.  Looks like it's a nice way for them to
> make some extra $$.  I didn't really see anything about a license
> there, so have no clue what the license is; there's just the one
> copyright notice.
>
> I can't say that I'm thrilled with the idea of adding something like
> this.

You might be right about the $$. But it's new code following a new RFC from 
what I could understand. New features are allways exiting. I have mailed 
vandyke to make them clarify the license.

> >> I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)
> >
> > He he, I know that :)
> >
> > I just thought this would be interesting for Mandrake, that's it.
>
> Sure, it definitely might be interesting.  I'd like to get the thoughts
> of the openssh team first, tho.  I really don't like adding stuff that
> hasn't been audited by them (since they know the openssh code better
> than I), especially with openssh being such a core component.  If it
> was licq or something, no big deal.

Yes, you're right. Let's wait and see what happens. I searched their mail 
archives but couldn't find a word about the keyserver feature. 

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Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 23.04 skrev Vincent Danen:
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 05:35 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> >>> I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)
> >
> > On the other hand...
> >
> > If Mandrake can't do what ever they please, use what ever patch they
> > please
> > with this software, it's not free and should be dropped immediately
> > from the
> > distribution...
>
> We can do whatever we want with openssh... it's under the BSD license.
> That's not the point.
>
> The point is I don't like to do this.  It's fine to patch things for
> fixes, proper language translations, etc.  But adding features like
> this causes other problems... it will bring a lot of bad publicity for
> MandrakeSoft because of Theo; he's made many threats in the past and
> he's neurotic enough to follow through.  For instance, if we do
> something Theo really doesn't like, or that Markus doesn't like, any
> questions regarding openssh that even faintly mention Mandrake
> somewhere in the equation, will get blasted by the openssh developers,
> and they'll be referred here with none too kind words.
>
> I'd rather avoid that sort of thing.

Ahh, I didn't think that far, are they really such a*holes? May I ask what 
those threats were?

> This is something that can be done with an optional build switch so
> someone can easily rebuild the srpm for themself with the patch
> applied.  It's not something I want to make mainstream unless I know
> that the openssh authors aren't going to be pricks about it.  I prefer
> to have as few headaches as possible.

Ok. I will fix an conditional switch for this. It would be interesting to hear 
what they have to say about this as it's a pretty new feature. As I 
understand it it's as new as of this month. They might not even know about 
it?

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Re: [Cooker] 2.4.19-16mdk and swsusp

2002-10-09 Thread Jan Hendrik Mangold

Tim Stoop wrote:

>Op Wednesday 09 October 2002 23:23, schreef Jan Hendrik Mangold:
>  
>
>>now I need to enable some sort of hibernation. Seems that ACPI is not
>>there yet, so I tried to incorporate the swsusp patch, but it did not
>>work - a lot of hunks won't patch (or whatever the terminology is).
>>
>>Anybody who got swsusp to work?
>>
>>
>
>I'm working on it right now! Hope to finish today or tomorrow. If all goes 
>well, it'll be in testing on MandrakeClub first and then in contribs. (If I'm 
>not mistaken.)
>
>  
>
Thats awesome news. I'ld be happy to test it :>)

Jan







Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Vincent Danen


On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 02:27 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:

>>> I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32)
>>> for
>>> openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?
>>>
>>> Patches are applied to this mail.
>>
>> Tell me why it's interesting, or some sort of README for this.  It
>> doesn't look like it changes very much of the core openssh code, so I
>> won't reject it out of hand, but I don't feel like reading the patch
>> from top to bottom to figure out what it does.
>>
>> If you can point me to more info on it, or tell me what it does and  
>> how
>> it would be used, that would be helpful.  Also, any links to whether  
>> or
>> not this fellow tried to get into the main openssh program or not (and
>> if so, why it was rejected) would be useful as well.
>
> There's actually a link presented 2 times in the spec file patch  
> pointing to:
>
> http://www.vandyke.com/download/os/pks_ossh.html
>
> On that page there's a link to:
>
> http://www.vandyke.com/technology/draft-ietf-secsh-publickey- 
> subsystem.txt

I read part of the draft and nosed around the site.  Can't say that I  
really care to include this.  Looks like it's a nice way for them to  
make some extra $$.  I didn't really see anything about a license  
there, so have no clue what the license is; there's just the one  
copyright notice.

I can't say that I'm thrilled with the idea of adding something like  
this.

>> I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)
>
> He he, I know that :)
>
> I just thought this would be interesting for Mandrake, that's it.

Sure, it definitely might be interesting.  I'd like to get the thoughts  
of the openssh team first, tho.  I really don't like adding stuff that  
hasn't been audited by them (since they know the openssh code better  
than I), especially with openssh being such a core component.  If it  
was licq or something, no big deal.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Vincent Danen


On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 05:35 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:

> [snip]
>
>>> I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)
>
> On the other hand...
>
> If Mandrake can't do what ever they please, use what ever patch they 
> please
> with this software, it's not free and should be dropped immediately 
> from the
> distribution...

We can do whatever we want with openssh... it's under the BSD license.  
That's not the point.

The point is I don't like to do this.  It's fine to patch things for 
fixes, proper language translations, etc.  But adding features like 
this causes other problems... it will bring a lot of bad publicity for 
MandrakeSoft because of Theo; he's made many threats in the past and 
he's neurotic enough to follow through.  For instance, if we do 
something Theo really doesn't like, or that Markus doesn't like, any 
questions regarding openssh that even faintly mention Mandrake 
somewhere in the equation, will get blasted by the openssh developers, 
and they'll be referred here with none too kind words.

I'd rather avoid that sort of thing.

This is something that can be done with an optional build switch so 
someone can easily rebuild the srpm for themself with the patch 
applied.  It's not something I want to make mainstream unless I know 
that the openssh authors aren't going to be pricks about it.  I prefer 
to have as few headaches as possible.

--
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Re: [Cooker] openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Vincent Danen


On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 01:55 PM, Ben Reser wrote:

>> I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32) 
>> for
>> openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?
>>
>> Patches are applied to this mail.
>
> Can't:
> *   Copyright © 1995-2002 VanDyke Software, Inc.
> *   All rights reserved.
>
> VanDyke has rather conflicting licensing information in it (the actual
> source file says it's okay to redistribute it.  But requires that you
> add VanDyke's Copyright notice to the openssh documentation.  Of course
> they don't provide the patch to do that for you.

Ugh... ok, I don't like that part at all.

> Considering that openssh is BSD license you can't assume that 
> deritivate
> works are licensed under the same terms.
>
> So at least until vandyke clarifies their license I don't see how we 
> can
> include this.
>
> And that's not even considering the flak from Theo we are likely to 
> get.

Yeah... this is something I'd rather avoid because, inevitably, he'd 
yell directly at me (like usual).  I think he thinks MandrakeSoft == 
Vincent Danen... dunno why.

And this was long before I took over as maintainer for openssh... =)

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Bob Walker

According to the File Hierarchy Specification (V2.2), '/usr' is supposed to be 
shareable, read-only data. R/W support for '/usr' should be put in '/var'. 
For FHS-compliant filesystems:

/usr = static, shareable
/opt = static, shareable
/etc = static, unshareable
/boot = static, unshareable
/var  = variable, shareable/unshareable

bob


On Wednesday 09 October 2002 10:21 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:03:30PM -0700, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > Hmmm, I thought this whole thread was about being unable to export a
> > /usr share as ro since things wrote to it by default.  Apparently I
> > mixed this up with some other thread.  Sorry.
>
> It is and it isn't.  It's about not being able to mount /usr ro (NFS or
> not) because it writes to /usr. :)





Re: [Cooker] 2.4.19-16mdk and swsusp

2002-10-09 Thread Tim Stoop

Op Wednesday 09 October 2002 23:23, schreef Jan Hendrik Mangold:
> now I need to enable some sort of hibernation. Seems that ACPI is not
> there yet, so I tried to incorporate the swsusp patch, but it did not
> work - a lot of hunks won't patch (or whatever the terminology is).
>
> Anybody who got swsusp to work?

I'm working on it right now! Hope to finish today or tomorrow. If all goes 
well, it'll be in testing on MandrakeClub first and then in contribs. (If I'm 
not mistaken.)

-- 
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Tim Stoop

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Todd Lyons

Levi Ramsey wrote on Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:15:58PM -0400 :
> 
> The underlying flaw is that the C3 misreports itself.  That is a big
> no-no.

I was privy to a conversation that a kernel developer made the following
comments:

Oh, I point out that C3 really is:
* an i686 [cmov is actually optional]
* with the i586 instruction set [ok, really k6-2 insn set]
* that schedules like i486

In the new kernels (2.5 series), this CPU is being treated as a 486
with MMX+3DNOW.

> The bulk of the blame rests on VIA (or possibly the kernel developers).

I think it's a little of both.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:03:30PM -0700, Todd Lyons wrote:
> Hmmm, I thought this whole thread was about being unable to export a
> /usr share as ro since things wrote to it by default.  Apparently I
> mixed this up with some other thread.  Sorry.

It is and it isn't.  It's about not being able to mount /usr ro (NFS or
not) because it writes to /usr. :)

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Thu Oct 10 19:03 +0100, rowland wrote:
> everybody who has an i686 machine is missing the point. Every rpm on the 
> installation cd's are for i568, so why is there a directory named i686. the 
> fact is that if the rpms are for i586 then the kernel should be for i586 and 
> anybody who has a i586 should recompile the kernel themselves. ok the 
> processer or the software that identifies it is bugged, but if the i686 
> directory had not been there, this whole problem would not have happened :-)

No, we're not missing the point.

The underlying flaw is that the C3 misreports itself.  That is a big
no-no.

The kernel *is* built for i586...

[root@tatiana root]# cat /boot/config | grep -C 4 "586"
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
CONFIG_M586=y
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set

Perhaps the glibc RPMs are mistagged... maybe Red Hat's style of having
two glibc's is better.  However, for performance reasons (glibc
functions are called sufficiently often for optimization to be
noticeable), DrakX would probably run a CPUID test and install the
"appropriate" glibc.  Guess what: that still doesn't solve the problem.

The bulk of the blame rests on VIA (or possibly the kernel developers).
Passing the blame to Mandrake for their packaging of glibc is ludicrous.
By your logic, you are somewhat at fault: if you hadn't tried to install
Mandrake on broken hardware this whole problem would not have happened
:-)

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your From: address and they screw up the list.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Todd Lyons

Ben Reser wrote on Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:18:03PM -0700 :
> > That only works if your export from the server allows it:
> Well root_squash is only useful for an NFS mounted share.  I wasn't
> necessarily arguing against the changes.  In some respects it makes
> sense to me.  But I don't think security is really a valid argument for
> it.  But I do think it's a useful feature to administrators that want to
> remotely mount /usr via NFS. 

Hmmm, I thought this whole thread was about being unable to export a
/usr share as ro since things wrote to it by default.  Apparently I
mixed this up with some other thread.  Sorry.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 21.43 skrev Ben Reser:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:35:24PM +, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > On the other hand...
> >
> > If Mandrake can't do what ever they please, use what ever patch they
> > please with this software, it's not free and should be dropped
> > immediately from the distribution...
>
> He didn't say he coudn't.  He said he didn't want to.

Yes... but I know why I forgot to end it with a smiley ;)

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Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Blindauer Emmanuel

Le Mercredi 9 Octobre 2002 19:38, Thomas Backlund a écrit :
> > > CPU states:  0,4% user,  0,6% system,  0,8% nice,  9,6% idle
> > > CPU0 states:  0,0% user,  0,0% system,  0,0% nice,  0,106% idle
> > > CPU1 states:  0,1% user,  0,5% system,  0,0% nice,  0,100% idle
I have a Bi PII 350 too, with current cooker, and I have same for the report 
of top:
CPU0 states:  0,30% user,  0,8% system,  0,0% nice,  0,469% idle
CPU1 states:  0,44% user,  0,27% system,  0,0% nice,  0,436% idle

nothing cpu-intensive is runing on the computer

Emmanuel





Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:35:24PM +, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> On the other hand...
> 
> If Mandrake can't do what ever they please, use what ever patch they please 
> with this software, it's not free and should be dropped immediately from the 
> distribution...

He didn't say he coudn't.  He said he didn't want to.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 20.27 skrev Oden Eriksson:
> onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 15.03 skrev Vincent Danen:
> > On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 08:51 AM, Oden Eriksson wrote:

[snip]

> > I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)

On the other hand...

If Mandrake can't do what ever they please, use what ever patch they please 
with this software, it's not free and should be dropped immediately from the 
distribution...

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[Cooker] 2.4.19-16mdk and swsusp

2002-10-09 Thread Jan Hendrik Mangold

Hi,

after lots of pain and agony I finally installed Mandrake9 on my hp 
pavilion xf255 and everything went smoothly, thanks [Mandrake]

now I need to enable some sort of hibernation. Seems that ACPI is not 
there yet, so I tried to incorporate the swsusp patch, but it did not 
work - a lot of hunks won't patch (or whatever the terminology is).

Anybody who got swsusp to work?

http://fchabaud.free.fr/English/default.php3?COUNT=3&FILE0=Tricks&FILE1=Laptop&FILE2=Swsusp

thanks in advance

Jan






Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 01:56:08PM -0700, Todd Lyons wrote:
> That only works if your export from the server allows it:
> 
> [todd@fiji ~]$ cat /etc/exports 
> /usr 192.168.3.0/24(ro,root_squash,sync)
> 
> What he's asking for seems to be common in some places, but I've never
> implemented it myself, mostly due to the fact that so many things seem
> to want to write to /usr.  Those things that are being written to /usr
> seemingly should be written to /var.  Then again, there's nothing
> preventing us from making those directories be symlinks to someplace in
> /var on the local machine.  Maybe that's a plausible road to take.

Well root_squash is only useful for an NFS mounted share.  I wasn't
necessarily arguing against the changes.  In some respects it makes
sense to me.  But I don't think security is really a valid argument for
it.  But I do think it's a useful feature to administrators that want to
remotely mount /usr via NFS. 

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 08:27:26PM +0100, rowland wrote:
> I understand (and I understood this from the start) that the bug is in the way > the 
>C3 is reported, I also understand that mandrake 9.0 is advertised as 
> being for i586! In which case, why is there the ability tp optomise for i686, 
> surely this should be something that is done after installation. If you are 
> going to say 'so people who have i686 machines will have faster/better 
> machines' then it should also optimise for athlons as well!!!

I'm sure if someone submitted a patch to do so it'd be accepted in this
particular case.  There are only a couple libraries in the i686
directory (the i586 ones are just in /lib).  They are libraries that
i686 users get significantly better performance by using.  These i686
libraries do not hurt i586 machines in general.  So I really don't see
what your complaint is about.

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Re: [Cooker] supermount?

2002-10-09 Thread Todd Lyons

Mario Vazquez wrote on Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:16:02PM -0400 :
> There is a fix for supermount on cooker mirrors?

When you see a new version of the kernel come down, that's when you try
it.  Look through the changelog to see if anything is noted about it.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Todd Lyons

Ben Reser wrote on Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:40:45PM -0700 :
> > /usr locally, read-only, which can make things a
> > little more secure, you can know that things aren't
> > being modified 100 different in /usr that you don't
> > know about, and you don't have to back up /usr.
> So much for security:
> mount -o remout,rw /usr
> If they get root access to you box they probably know how to remount a
> partition rw.

That only works if your export from the server allows it:

[todd@fiji ~]$ cat /etc/exports 
/usr 192.168.3.0/24(ro,root_squash,sync)

What he's asking for seems to be common in some places, but I've never
implemented it myself, mostly due to the fact that so many things seem
to want to write to /usr.  Those things that are being written to /usr
seemingly should be written to /var.  Then again, there's nothing
preventing us from making those directories be symlinks to someplace in
/var on the local machine.  Maybe that's a plausible road to take.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Vox


Silly Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> On that page there's a link to:
>
> http://www.vandyke.com/technology/draft-ietf-secsh-publickey-subsystem.txt

  Interesting...very interesting. I haven't read the whole thing in
  detail yet...but from a glimpse, it does look like something nice. 

  Vox

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying/usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Stephane Gourichon

On 9 Oct 2002, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Yes, though if the flexibility costs so much,

It doesn't cost that much.

One hard prerequisite is to think it right. But Mandrake doesn't have to
do this job themselves: that's what the FHS is for.

Standards make things clear. Following them is not as hard as designing
them.

> it may become questionable whether we do it or we do other things
> which may be more useful to a larger number of people. I see your
> problem as something valuable but rather a "niche" than something
> really useful to a large number of people.

Linux is used in a lot of universities, with small or large networks of
client machines.

Sometimes, a cascaded system exists, where central servers provide
common apps, and local admins can tune local things. /usr exists for
that. The Unix hierarchy has been doing this for ages. Every package
that breaks this is flawed.

Big Cybercafés sometime use this, too. Having /usr mounted via NFS make
it much easier to maintain and secure... if it doesn't break all
packages.

How can you tell newbie sysadmins that files in /usr are meant to be
frozen, variable files go to /var, when kscd puts its growing stuff
inside /usr ...


Besides this, the lack of unattended package upgrade facility for
clusters of machines, and the flakey distribution upgrade that makes the
sysadmins prefer install from scratch instead, currently limit Mandrake
to a lonely desktop machine -- or a collection of lonely desktop
machines, until you roll your own local hack to cope with this. The
solution we have here is our homemade package that installs and
configures a list of things.

(To my knowledge, MandrakeUpdateRobot didn't make the reliable
unattended daily update we expected, but sorry, I've not tried 9.0 yet,
things might have changed. As for the upgrade, from 8.1 to 8.2 did break
many things when we tried, too many to fix. If things have gone better
with 9.0, tell me.)

I have other ideas for alternative solutions, but I'll tell in a
different mail.


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[Cooker] new glibc cooker & contribs rebuild

2002-10-09 Thread Florent BERANGER

  Hello,

when will be the massive rebuild with new glibc (2.3) ?

  Thanks,

 Florent
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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread rowland

I understand (and I understood this from the start) that the bug is in the way 
the C3 is reported, I also understand that mandrake 9.0 is advertised as 
being for i586! In which case, why is there the ability tp optomise for i686, 
surely this should be something that is done after installation. If you are 
going to say 'so people who have i686 machines will have faster/better 
machines' then it should also optimise for athlons as well!!!
rowland

on Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 7:53 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:03:53PM +0100, rowland wrote:
> > everybody who has an i686 machine is missing the point. Every rpm on the
> > installation cd's are for i568, so why is there a directory named i686.
> > the fact is that if the rpms are for i586 then the kernel should be for
> > i586 and anybody who has a i586 should recompile the kernel themselves.
> > ok the processer or the software that identifies it is bugged, but if the
> > i686 directory had not been there, this whole problem would not have
> > happened :-)
>
> No the bug would have still been there.  You just wouldn't have had a
> problem with it.  The bug is *NOT* the presence of the i686 directory.
> The bug is the incorrect detection of your processor as being i686 not
> i586.  Deleting the i686 is just a work around for the problem.





Re: [Cooker] Bug handling survey - Tree based models

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:38:57AM -0500, Gunes Koru wrote:
> Please accept my apologies if you receive duplicates of this e-mail. This
> is a survey, which will give useful results for all of us. I will try to
> prepare and make some preliminary results on-line within the next two
> weeks. Since this is a survey, covering many important open source
> projects, it will be interesting for everybody to see what kind of quality
> assurance work is going on in the other projects. As always, we are very
> dedicated to this research. Please contact me for any question you might
> have.

Okay this is the second time you've sent this list an email about your
survey.  The first one was questionable as to it's relevence.  The
second one is really pushing it.

It's one thing if I get it on different lists.  It's different when you
start sending multiple copies to the list.

Link to the first message you sent:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=103374701619952&w=2

You would have thought that after you got several complaints the last
time around you'd think before sending *AGAIN*.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:45:57AM -0700, David
> Walser wrote:
> > Doing this would be useful to more than just
> people
> > networking mounting /usr.  It would also be useful
> for
> > standalone machines, mainly for security,
> > manageability, and backup reasons.  You could
> mount
> > /usr locally, read-only, which can make things a
> > little more secure, you can know that things
> aren't
> > being modified 100 different in /usr that you
> don't
> > know about, and you don't have to back up /usr.
> 
> So much for security:
> mount -o remout,rw /usr
> 
> If they get root access to you box they probably
> know how to remount a
> partition rw.

Yes, I'm aware of that case (even thought of it as I
was typing my e-mail).  It's not the only case in
which this is useful though.

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Re: [Cooker] openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:51:45PM +, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32) for 
> openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?
> 
> Patches are applied to this mail.

Can't:
*   Copyright © 1995-2002 VanDyke Software, Inc.
*   All rights reserved.

VanDyke has rather conflicting licensing information in it (the actual
source file says it's okay to redistribute it.  But requires that you
add VanDyke's Copyright notice to the openssh documentation.  Of course
they don't provide the patch to do that for you.

Considering that openssh is BSD license you can't assume that deritivate
works are licensed under the same terms.  

So at least until vandyke clarifies their license I don't see how we can
include this.

And that's not even considering the flak from Theo we are likely to get.

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[Cooker] perl-bignum-0.13, perl-Math-BigRat-0.09, and perl-Math-BigInt-1.63uploaded

2002-10-09 Thread Peter Chen

FYI, I have uploaded perl-bignum-0.13, perl-Math-BigRat-0.09, and
perl-Math-BigInt-1.63:

perl-bignum-0.13
bignum attempts to make it easier to write scripts that use
BigInts/BigFloats in a transparent way. They use the rewritten
versiosn of Math::BigInt and Math::BigFloat, Math::BigRat (for bigrat)
and optionally Math::BigInt::Lite.

perl-Math-BigRat-0.09
Math-BigRat is an arbitrary size rational math package.

perl-Math-BigInt-1.63
Math-BigInt is an arbitrary size integer math package.

Pete






Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:45:57AM -0700, David Walser wrote:
> Doing this would be useful to more than just people
> networking mounting /usr.  It would also be useful for
> standalone machines, mainly for security,
> manageability, and backup reasons.  You could mount
> /usr locally, read-only, which can make things a
> little more secure, you can know that things aren't
> being modified 100 different in /usr that you don't
> know about, and you don't have to back up /usr.

So much for security:
mount -o remout,rw /usr

If they get root access to you box they probably know how to remount a
partition rw.

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Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:19:10PM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote:
> KDE logoff problems.
> 
> With Mandrake 9.0 I use KDE 3.0.3 with the Desktop Pager and 6 Desktops 
> (Work, Inet, Sys, Mount, #5, Print).
> 
> Whenever I logoff, only the Desktop Pager is removed.
> 
> If I then logoff again, usually KDE goes down as it should.
> 
> But not always.  In this case no amount of logoffs changes the 
> situation, and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does not just kill the X server back 
> to a command prompt, but takes the whole system down to a unreqested reboot.
> 
> This behaviour is definitely not according to the book.
> 
> Further, with these 6 desktops applications present at logoff are not 
> restored to the correct desktop after a boot or reboot.  They all 
> usually appear on top of each other on Desktop 1.

So report it to bugs.kde.org
I seriously doubt this is a packaging problem with Mandrake's KDE.

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Tuesday 08 Oct 2002 10:37 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> > everybody who has an i686 machine is missing the point. Every rpm on the 

Just to clarify I didn't write that.  rowland doesn't know how to do
attributions right so it's not showing right. :(

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Re: [Cooker] Where is the dictionary file of open office?

2002-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne

W. Kasberg wrote:
> On Monday 07 October 2002 09:19, Robert C. Dowdy wrote:
> 

>>Actually, I believe this *is* a bug.  I've installed 9.0 final three times
>>and each time spell checking in OpenOffice.org was broken until I manually
>>installed a US English myspell (which newbies certainly wouldn't know to
>>do). It doesn't seem likely that OO.o should have broken spell-checking
>>intentionally.  Maybe it's just a problem for US English installations. 
>>I'm not sure.
>>

Yes, even when installing from rpmdrake (haven't tried urpmi recently, 
but that did the right thing last time), it seems that myspell-en_CA is 
installed automatically when local is english.


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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:03:53PM +0100, rowland wrote:
> everybody who has an i686 machine is missing the point. Every rpm on the 
> installation cd's are for i568, so why is there a directory named i686. the 
> fact is that if the rpms are for i586 then the kernel should be for i586 and 
> anybody who has a i586 should recompile the kernel themselves. ok the 
> processer or the software that identifies it is bugged, but if the i686 
> directory had not been there, this whole problem would not have happened :-)

No the bug would have still been there.  You just wouldn't have had a
problem with it.  The bug is *NOT* the presence of the i686 directory.
The bug is the incorrect detection of your processor as being i686 not
i586.  Deleting the i686 is just a work around for the problem.

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[Cooker] translation problem

2002-10-09 Thread under



on spannish version of mdk 9.0 I found a translation problem
with this error:
[under@blacktow under]$ linuxconf
El userhelper debe configurar la setuid del root

It say that userhelper have to configure the setuid root and I have to
say userhelper must be setuidroot
so good translation could be:
userhelper tiene que ser setuid root para funcionar






Re: [Cooker] ctrl+alt+backspace shuts PC down.

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 11.27 skrev Joseph Davidson:
> I recently installed 9.0 on a friends PC.  After reconfiguring the mouse
> (to enable the wheel),  I needed to restart X.  When I pressed
> ctrl+alt+backspace,  the system immediatly turned off.

It did?

Can I have your machine please ;)

I can't get the shutdown feature to work at all on my epox 8kha+...

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Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

onsdagen den 9 oktober 2002 15.03 skrev Vincent Danen:
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 08:51 AM, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32)
> > for
> > openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?
> >
> > Patches are applied to this mail.
>
> Tell me why it's interesting, or some sort of README for this.  It
> doesn't look like it changes very much of the core openssh code, so I
> won't reject it out of hand, but I don't feel like reading the patch
> from top to bottom to figure out what it does.
>
> If you can point me to more info on it, or tell me what it does and how
> it would be used, that would be helpful.  Also, any links to whether or
> not this fellow tried to get into the main openssh program or not (and
> if so, why it was rejected) would be useful as well.

There's actually a link presented 2 times in the spec file patch pointing to:

http://www.vandyke.com/download/os/pks_ossh.html

On that page there's a link to:

http://www.vandyke.com/technology/draft-ietf-secsh-publickey-subsystem.txt

> I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)

He he, I know that :)

I just thought this would be interesting for Mandrake, that's it.

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tuesday 08 Oct 2002 10:37 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> everybody who has an i686 machine is missing the point. Every rpm on the 

actually it's rather "you are missing the point", it seems.

> installation cd's are for i568, so why is there a directory named i686. the 

because optimizing the glibc makes a big difference, the rest of
the programs can stay for i586 it doesn't make a big difference.

> fact is that if the rpms are for i586 then the kernel should be for i586 and 

it is.

> anybody who has a i586 should recompile the kernel themselves. ok the 
> processer or the software that identifies it is bugged, but if the i686 

finally you got the point. yes, the kernel which identifies the
processor has a bug with via. this is what everybody keeps
saying.

> directory had not been there, this whole problem would not have happened :-)

well, yes, and if we would use a windows kernel the whole problem
would also not have happened..

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread rowland

On Tuesday 08 Oct 2002 10:37 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
everybody who has an i686 machine is missing the point. Every rpm on the 
installation cd's are for i568, so why is there a directory named i686. the 
fact is that if the rpms are for i586 then the kernel should be for i586 and 
anybody who has a i586 should recompile the kernel themselves. ok the 
processer or the software that identifies it is bugged, but if the i686 
directory had not been there, this whole problem would not have happened :-)
rowland
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:15:20PM +0100, rowland penny wrote:
> > mandrake is advertised as being i586 (or pentium) compatible not i686
> > (celeron, p2,p3,p4) so why have a directory named i686?. redhat 8.0 loads
> > onto a epia based system without any trouble so why doesn't mandrake!
>
> Well from what I understand the bug isn't that the i686 directory is
> there.  The i686 directory lets i686 machines use the optimized
> libraries for their arch.  Everything else will use the libraries in
> just the /lib dir.  Apparently there was a bug in the kernel that
> mistakenly identifies your processor as i686 not i586.  So ld tries to
> use the i686 libraries.  Thus the error.
>
> Deleting the i686 tree resolves the bug because then ld does try to use
> those libraries since they aren't there and falls back on the other
> ones.
>
> The workaround is already posted on the errata page.  At this point
> there is no other way to fix it other than replacing the kernel in the
> install CD with a fixed one.  And that isn't going to happen until the
> next version.
>
> Now at some point I'm sure cooker will get fixed and then you could make
> a CD set with just the cooker kernel and that will work around you
> problem in an easier way.





Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Backlund

From: "Buchan Milne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thomas Backlund wrote:

> PLEASE STOP SPAMMING THE LIST

Sorry for the duplicates, It was not intentional...
it was the mailscanner that told me it rejected it,
that made me send it again, and the scanner sends
it's own warning messages, so that resulted in atleast 3
messages...

> > Hi,
> > here is my system:
> >
> > dual PII 350, Intel BX chipset 512MB ECC SDRAM
> > dual 18GB IBM SCSI HDD:s running linux soft-raid 1
> > (even swap is on raid 1), all partitions uses ReiserFS
> > This machine runs:
> > kernel-2.4.19.19mdk-1-1mdk
> > apache 1.3.26-6mdk
> > postfix-1.1.11-4mdk
> > courier-imap-1.5.3-1mdk
> >
> > Rav antivirus mailscanner:
> > ravmd 8.4.0-7
> > ravcore 8.9.0-6
> > ravpostfix 8.4.0-4
> >
> > and here is my problem:
> >
> > Output from 'top'
> > ---
> >   2:32pm  up 2 days, 15:20,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00
> > 75 processes: 74 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> > CPU states:  0,4% user,  0,6% system,  0,8% nice,  9,6% idle
> > CPU0 states:  0,0% user,  0,0% system,  0,0% nice,  0,106% idle
> > CPU1 states:  0,1% user,  0,5% system,  0,0% nice,  0,100% idle
> > Mem:   515952K av,  508016K used,7936K free,   0K shrd,   99108K
> > buff
> > Swap:  256888K av,  256700K used, 188K free   49000K
> > cached
> > ---
> >
> > So, what is eating my processor power, and my memory?
> >
>
> Nothing is eating your CPU at this stage, only your memory (note the CPU
> states both <1%, which means no user space apps are eating CPU, but
> since they are only 01& idle, it must be the kernel keeping them busy,
> probably spending all it's time swapping.
>

Well, the thing that got my attention was exactly the point,
that CPU0: 0,0% user + 0,0% system + 0,0% nice + 0,106% idle
and  CPU1: 0,1% user + 0,5% system + 0,0% nice + 0,100% idle

It does not add up, and if it's the kernel that is busy working,
it should show up in 'xx% system', atleast that was how the
smp kernels in MDK 8.2 was showing the workload,
or is it top that is the 'faulty' one ...

> You could have saved us 81k of logs, if you had sorted your top by
> memory usage (shift-M), since you know that memory us the problem, and
> you would have seen these at the top:
>
> 2559 apache 9   0  243M 139M  1052 S 0,0 27,6   0:34 httpd
> 2560 apache 9   0  297M 169M 4 S 0,0 33,7   0:30 httpd
>
Well, for this I have no excuse, I did read the output from top,
but completly missed those lines...   :-(

> Can you please keep this off cooker unless you have confirmed that it is
> a bug, and not some misconfiguration.
>

> Your previous install doesn't mention apache, so do you need it? Have
> you done configuration?
>
> Have you checked your apache logs?
>
> Have you checked syslog?
>


It's exactly the same configuration as I had for
apache-1.3.23-4.1mdk wich was in MDK 8.2, and
yes I need the web-server.

I also run logcheck every night, but it have not
shown any suspicious lines in the logfiles...
I guess I have to read the logfiles myself line by line
to see if anything seems to be wrong...

Thomas




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[Cooker] Bug gdm & nvidia drvs

2002-10-09 Thread Pbt

I've a small bug with GDM and NVidia drivers.
When i stop a session, and ask my WM to return to GDM, it sometimes has
a problem of sync (same behaviour as a resolution too huge for a
screen). So i have to restart XFree (ctrl-alt-supp) in order to solve
the problem. Nothing is written in the logs.

It may be difficult to solve this (because of the nvidia closed
drivers)...

Pierre



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DrakxX/harddrake pcmcia suport and kickstart (was Re: [Cooker] MDK9.0 Installation suggestions (I'm Stuck).)

2002-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Ryan S Oltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Humm there is also the detection step.. I don't know if harddrake
> can do that after the install.
> 


It doesn't seem so, plus, in kickstart mode (or whatever you want to 
call it if you run the auto-install thing from MCC to make a bootdisk) 
DrakX doesn't do any pcmcia (because there was no pcmcia storage maybe?).

I was wanting to demo winbind setup in a kick-started install, but the 
NIC isn't available in kickstart, since it's a laptop with PCMCIA card, 
and PCMCIA didn't get started.

So, I will try a HD install (it's not the fastest machine, and I don't 
have much time ...).

Buchan


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Re: [Cooker] Where is the dictionary file of open office?

2002-10-09 Thread W. Kasberg

On Monday 07 October 2002 09:19, Robert C. Dowdy wrote:
> On Saturday 05 October 2002 5:55 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Vox wrote:
> > > Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Hi all, I have installed the mandrake version rpm package of
> > > > OpenOffice. However, the package don't contain any dictionary files.
> > > > Where can I find the dictionary file and install?
> > >
> > >   urpmi OpenOffice.org-l10n-
> > >
> > >   Vox
> >
> > Actullay, try:
> >
> > # urpmi myspell
> >
> > and then select your language. OpenOffice.org requires a myspell, so you
> > probably have one installed already, you might want to use Software
> > Manager to search for myspell, and choose additional dictionaries.
> >
> > But, please remember that this is not a support list, and your post was
> > not a bug report, but seems very much like a support question. There are
> > more appropriate lists for that.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Buchan
>
> Actually, I believe this *is* a bug.  I've installed 9.0 final three times
> and each time spell checking in OpenOffice.org was broken until I manually
> installed a US English myspell (which newbies certainly wouldn't know to
> do). It doesn't seem likely that OO.o should have broken spell-checking
> intentionally.  Maybe it's just a problem for US English installations. 
> I'm not sure.
>
This is also valid for german dictionary which is not installed automatically.
Also german help files have to be installed manually.
Hopefully this should be corrected with the next Mandrake edition (9.1 ?)

> The most serious aspect of this is that OO.o doesn't TELL the user that
> spelling is broken.  I could set Autocheck to "yes" and it didn't complain,
> it just didn't do anything.  I could manually order a spellcheck, and it
> didn't complain, it just didn't work (as if there were no spelling errors
> in the document, even if the document was all gibberish).
>
> Again, this definitely sounds like a bug to me.  =)
>
> Regards,
> Rob

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Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 Installation suggestions (I'm Stuck).

2002-10-09 Thread Ryan S Oltman

On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 09:28, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Ryan S Oltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > tried just about every combination possible and still no luck.  Is there
> > > > some step I need to be sure and do in order to guarantee the system is
> > > > patched?
> > > 
> > > No, it should work. I've tested it..
> > 
> > Maybe because I have to pass more kernel options (ide2=... ide3=...) it
> > doesn't work?  Also, I had to download the patch.pl using a windows PC
> > it could be a  problem?  It does go and act like it loads
> 
> I don't think so.. maybe the error could come from the fact that
> you have more than one RAID array (Pixel, do you think your patch
> should work with 2+ RAID array's?).
> 
> > something off the floppy, but I get the same result when I reboot.  The
> > logs say "PATCHED" during this stage.
> 
> So at least the patch seems applied. It should work :-(.

I would get an error like "no patch-oem-.pl" when I tried to patch it
off CD1 with the floppy, but I got the "PATCHED" statement when I booted
off CD2 then installed CD1.

> 
> > Anyway, I removed the "/" from raided partition and broke it up into /,
> > /opt, and /var all 2.7 Gb in size.  I then rebooted off the rescue CD 
> > mounted the partitions and fixed the /etc/raidtab.  It was as follows:
> > 
> > <<>>
> > /dev/md3
> > device /dev/hdg6
> 
> Hum this looks like the contents of an /etc/raidtab *without* the
> patch??
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The machine now boots! (small victory!).  Now I have found that neither
> > urpmi nor rpmdrake seem to work.  The processes seems to hang w/o any
> > CPU activity.  I think I found a thread to fix this issue.
> 
> The rpm db is probably locked. Double check you have no rpm
> process, then do "rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__*" and "rpm --rebuilddb".
>  

This is what I did and it fixed it.

> > Since I installed with out the PCMCIA controller installed, I assume
> > I'll have to install:
> > pcmcia-cs-3.2.0-3mdk.rpm
> > pcmcia-cs-x11-3.2.0-3mdk.rpm
> > In order to get the card to work.
> 
> Humm there is also the detection step.. I don't know if harddrake
> can do that after the install.

No I had to install the packages.  The /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia file needed
to be modified to:

PCMCIA=yes
PCIC=i82365

Then,
/etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start

It detected the card and worked with wvlan_cs driver.  I then configured
the network, but was not allowed to setup internet connection sharing
because it only said I had the eth0 (linksys card).

Anyway, when I rebooted the fun started.  On the reboot the during the
pcmcia startup the messages said something like:
"loading yenta_socket instead of i82365".  I have never seen the
yenta_socket driver on my machine.  The controller beeped twice, then it
did a stack dump on only one of my processors (I didn't know this was
possible).  About 5 seconds later the entire machine hung.

Long story short, I downloaded the pcmcia_cs-3.1.2 from sourceforge,
recompiled the kernel enterprise configuration without pcmcia support
and installed the sourceforge package.  The machine is functioning now
with the i82365 module and is running great.

As someone stated in a different thread, I am confirming you must do a
make mrproper in order to compile the mandrake kernel source.



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Re: [Cooker] ctrl+alt+backspace shuts PC down.

2002-10-09 Thread Erwan Velu

Le mer 09/10/2002 à 10:56, Bob Walker a écrit :
> I then  pressed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and it logged out to the 
> login prompt. It appears there is a either a problem with this key 
> combination.
This is normal, this a key combination of X to kill it.
There is a respawn of X so when you kill it using (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE)
it restarts.
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Re: [Cooker] ctrl+alt+backspace shuts PC down.

2002-10-09 Thread Bob Walker

I did the same, however, no pc shutdown. My pc executed "Logout Without 
Confirmation" and returned to the x login prompt . I checked to see if a 
keyboard shortcut was assigned by default to "Logout Without Confirmation" in 
KDE Control Center --> LookNFeel --> Shortcuts. It was assigned to 
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Delete. I executed that key combination and the pc logged out 
without confirmation. I then deleted all shortcuts for "Logout without 
Confirmation". I then  pressed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and it logged out to the 
login prompt. It appears there is a either a problem with this key 
combination.

bob

On Wednesday 09 October 2002 11:27 am, Joseph Davidson wrote:
> I recently installed 9.0 on a friends PC.  After reconfiguring the mouse
> (to enable the wheel),  I needed to restart X.  When I pressed
> ctrl+alt+backspace,  the system immediatly turned off.
>
> I am not sure what the exact specs are on the PC, but I believe it is a
> P4 2Ghz, 512mb ram, and an nvidia based graphics card with the default
> driver. (not the 3d accelerated driver from nvidia. )





Re: [Cooker] ctrl+alt+backspace shuts PC down.

2002-10-09 Thread Erwan Velu

Le mer 09/10/2002 à 13:27, Joseph Davidson a écrit :
> I recently installed 9.0 on a friends PC.  After reconfiguring the mouse
> (to enable the wheel),  I needed to restart X.  When I pressed
> ctrl+alt+backspace,  the system immediatly turned off.
> 
> I am not sure what the exact specs are on the PC, but I believe it is a
> P4 2Ghz, 512mb ram, and an nvidia based graphics card with the default
> driver. (not the 3d accelerated driver from nvidia. )
i've saw this problem with some old motherboard, please try
linux noapic
it should works better.
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[Cooker] ctrl+alt+backspace shuts PC down.

2002-10-09 Thread Joseph Davidson

I recently installed 9.0 on a friends PC.  After reconfiguring the mouse
(to enable the wheel),  I needed to restart X.  When I pressed
ctrl+alt+backspace,  the system immediatly turned off.

I am not sure what the exact specs are on the PC, but I believe it is a
P4 2Ghz, 512mb ram, and an nvidia based graphics card with the default
driver. (not the 3d accelerated driver from nvidia. )



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[Cooker] Re: procps-2.0.10 buggy

2002-10-09 Thread J.A. Magallon


On 2002.10.09 Thierry Vignaud wrote:
>"J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> At the end of the tread, you will find this patch for top.c, I
>> posted it there and WorksForMe(TM) (while awating the author
>> includes a fix in next package)
>
>applied but i'm considering switching to the debian procps instead
>

Yup, as nobody mantained it, there are some 'branches' out there. But as
I have noticed, this is more or less the standard procps for kernel
developers, and changes for new kernels go there in first place. Do
not know if Debian mantainer tracks this changes closely...

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[Cooker] Re: procps-2.0.10 buggy

2002-10-09 Thread Thierry Vignaud

"J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At the end of the tread, you will find this patch for top.c, I
> posted it there and WorksForMe(TM) (while awating the author
> includes a fix in next package)

applied but i'm considering switching to the debian procps instead





Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 Installation suggestions (I'm Stuck).

2002-10-09 Thread Pixel

Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ryan S Oltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > tried just about every combination possible and still no luck.  Is there
> > > > some step I need to be sure and do in order to guarantee the system is
> > > > patched?
> > > 
> > > No, it should work. I've tested it..
> > 
> > Maybe because I have to pass more kernel options (ide2=... ide3=...) it
> > doesn't work?  Also, I had to download the patch.pl using a windows PC
> > it could be a  problem?  It does go and act like it loads
> 
> I don't think so.. maybe the error could come from the fact that
> you have more than one RAID array (Pixel, do you think your patch
> should work with 2+ RAID array's?).

it should :)




[Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Vincent Danen


On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 08:51 AM, Oden Eriksson wrote:

> I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32) 
> for
> openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?
>
> Patches are applied to this mail.

Tell me why it's interesting, or some sort of README for this.  It 
doesn't look like it changes very much of the core openssh code, so I 
won't reject it out of hand, but I don't feel like reading the patch 
from top to bottom to figure out what it does.

If you can point me to more info on it, or tell me what it does and how 
it would be used, that would be helpful.  Also, any links to whether or 
not this fellow tried to get into the main openssh program or not (and 
if so, why it was rejected) would be useful as well.

I don't really like to tamper with openssh too much.  =)

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

rowland penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> mandrake is advertised as being i586 (or pentium) compatible not i686 
> (celeron, p2,p3,p4) so why have a directory named i686?. redhat 8.0 loads 

to optimize better for i686 and superior processors, what else?
it's not incompatible with being i586 compatible, or explain me
your reasoning.


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Re: [Cooker] Install troubles

2002-10-09 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"J. Greenlees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> >  You might try a boot floppy from /images/alternatives/, also.
> >
> 
> not always possible, no floppy on my laptop.
> so boot floppy becomes problematic with diskless workstations. :-)

we can't support all the configurations. for you you'll need to
burn a CD with the alternatives cdrom.img on it.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread David Walser

--- Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, though if the flexibility costs so much, it may
> become
> questionable whether we do it or we do other things
> which may be
> more useful to a larger number of people. I see your
> problem as
> something valuable but rather a "niche" than
> something really
> useful to a large number of people.

Doing this would be useful to more than just people
networking mounting /usr.  It would also be useful for
standalone machines, mainly for security,
manageability, and backup reasons.  You could mount
/usr locally, read-only, which can make things a
little more secure, you can know that things aren't
being modified 100 different in /usr that you don't
know about, and you don't have to back up /usr.

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[Cooker] procps-2.0.10 buggy

2002-10-09 Thread J.A. Magallon

Hi.

The new procps package contains a bug still not fixed by author. We
discussed it in kernel list. Follow the thread at:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103408421017292&w=2

At the end of the tread, you will find this patch for top.c, I posted it there
and WorksForMe(TM) (while awating the author includes a fix in next package)

--- top.c.orig  2002-10-08 15:28:10.0 +0200
+++ top.c   2002-10-08 17:21:24.0 +0200
@@ -1691,6 +1691,8 @@
i, __LINE__);
break;
} else {
+   int u_delta, s_delta, n_delta, 
+io_delta, i_delta, un_delta;
+
t_ticks = (u_ticks + s_ticks + 
i_ticks + n_ticks + io_ticks)
- (u_ticks_o[i] + 
s_ticks_o[i] + i_ticks_o[i] + n_ticks_o[i] + io_ticks_o[i]);
if (Irixmode)
@@ -1699,25 +1701,21 @@
cpumap =
cpu_mapping
[i];
+   u_delta  = (trimzero(u_ticks - 
+u_ticks_o[i])*1000)/t_ticks;
+   s_delta  = (trimzero(s_ticks - 
+s_ticks_o[i])*1000)/t_ticks;
+   n_delta  = (trimzero(n_ticks - 
+n_ticks_o[i])*1000)/t_ticks;
+   io_delta = (trimzero(io_ticks 
+- io_ticks_o[i])*1000)/t_ticks;
+   i_delta  = (trimzero(i_ticks - 
+i_ticks_o[i])*1000)/t_ticks;
+   un_delta  = (trimzero(u_ticks 
+- u_ticks_o[i]+n_ticks - n_ticks_o[i])*1000)/t_ticks;
printf
-   ("CPU%d states: %2d%s%-d%% 
user, %2d%s%-d%% system,"
-" %2d%s%-d%% nice, 
%2d%s%-d%% iowait, %2d%s%-d%% idle",
+   ("CPU%d: %3d%s%-d%% user 
+%3d%s%-d%% system"
+" %3d%s%-d%% nice 
+%3d%s%-d%% iowait %3d%s%-d%% idle",
 cpumap,
-trimzero(u_ticks - 
u_ticks_o [i] + n_ticks - n_ticks_o [i]) * 100 / t_ticks,
-decimal_point,
-trimzero(u_ticks - 
u_ticks_o [i]) * 100 % t_ticks / 100,
-trimzero(s_ticks - 
s_ticks_o [i]) * 100 / t_ticks,
-decimal_point,
-trimzero(s_ticks - 
s_ticks_o [i]) * 100 % t_ticks / 100,
-trimzero(n_ticks - 
n_ticks_o [i]) * 100 / t_ticks,
-decimal_point,
-trimzero(n_ticks - 
n_ticks_o [i]) * 100 % t_ticks / 100,
-trimzero(io_ticks - 
io_ticks_o [i]) * 100 / t_ticks,
-decimal_point,
-trimzero(io_ticks - 
io_ticks_o [i]) * 100 % t_ticks / 100,
-trimzero(i_ticks - 
i_ticks_o [i]) * 100 / t_ticks,
-decimal_point,
-trimzero(i_ticks - 
i_ticks_o [i]) * 100 % t_ticks / 100);
+un_delta/ 10, 
+decimal_point, un_delta% 10,
+s_delta / 10, 
+decimal_point, s_delta % 10,
+n_delta / 10, 
+decimal_point, n_delta % 10,
+io_delta/ 10, 
+decimal_point, io_delta% 10,
+i_delta / 10, 
+decimal_point, i_delta % 10);
s_ticks_o[i] = s_ticks;
u_ticks_o[i] = u_ticks;
   

[Cooker] Bug handling survey - Tree based models

2002-10-09 Thread Gunes Koru


Hello Mandrake contributors,

I am conducting a survey about the way bugs are handled in open source
software projects. The survey includes questions that can be answered by
developers,testers, bug fixers, project managers, and owners of defect
databases. It is only and only for research purposes and it is very easy
to fill out. It consists of three short sections which can be completed at
once or in different sessions. Please fill it out if you haven't done yet.
You will find the questions interesting since there is a reason behind
each one one of them. They will make you think about how things work (or
could work)in your project. The survey can be found in the address:

http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/dhsurvey.html

The data in the bug databases can be used to identify the high risk areas
in the software development. One of the ways of doing it is constructing
tree-based models, which could be very useful in open source projects. If
you would like to read about it, I prepared a web page for you:

http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/tbdm1.html

Please accept my apologies if you receive duplicates of this e-mail. This
is a survey, which will give useful results for all of us. I will try to
prepare and make some preliminary results on-line within the next two
weeks. Since this is a survey, covering many important open source
projects, it will be interesting for everybody to see what kind of quality
assurance work is going on in the other projects. As always, we are very
dedicated to this research. Please contact me for any question you might
have.

Thank you,

A. Gunes Koru
http://www.engr.smu.edu/~gkoru




Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-09 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:13:37PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > 
> > Ok I see. But then I think it's not so interesting to have a
> > separate /usr, if the machines can be different (windows, fonts
> > etc)
> 
> Why?  How does individual machine differences in something like fonts
> make having a single /usr for a network not so interesting?  The point
> of a shared /usr is some disk savings, but yes, disks are cheap these
> days.  But in large networks, a new disk for every machine does add
> up.
> 
> But disk-space aside, this is also an administrative issue.  A network
> admin _can_ (easily!) make a font available to all by putting it on
> /usr, but that should not mean that individual machines should not
> also _be_able_ to have their own fonts.  Let's not take flexibilty
> away, let's add it.

Yes, though if the flexibility costs so much, it may become
questionable whether we do it or we do other things which may be
more useful to a larger number of people. I see your problem as
something valuable but rather a "niche" than something really
useful to a large number of people.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 Installation suggestions (I'm Stuck).

2002-10-09 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Ryan S Oltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> > > tried just about every combination possible and still no luck.  Is there
> > > some step I need to be sure and do in order to guarantee the system is
> > > patched?
> > 
> > No, it should work. I've tested it..
> 
> Maybe because I have to pass more kernel options (ide2=... ide3=...) it
> doesn't work?  Also, I had to download the patch.pl using a windows PC
> it could be a  problem?  It does go and act like it loads

I don't think so.. maybe the error could come from the fact that
you have more than one RAID array (Pixel, do you think your patch
should work with 2+ RAID array's?).

> something off the floppy, but I get the same result when I reboot.  The
> logs say "PATCHED" during this stage.

So at least the patch seems applied. It should work :-(.

> Anyway, I removed the "/" from raided partition and broke it up into /,
> /opt, and /var all 2.7 Gb in size.  I then rebooted off the rescue CD 
> mounted the partitions and fixed the /etc/raidtab.  It was as follows:
> 
> <<>>
> /dev/md3
>   device /dev/hdg6

Hum this looks like the contents of an /etc/raidtab *without* the
patch??

[...]

> The machine now boots! (small victory!).  Now I have found that neither
> urpmi nor rpmdrake seem to work.  The processes seems to hang w/o any
> CPU activity.  I think I found a thread to fix this issue.

The rpm db is probably locked. Double check you have no rpm
process, then do "rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__*" and "rpm --rebuilddb".
 
> Since I installed with out the PCMCIA controller installed, I assume
> I'll have to install:
> pcmcia-cs-3.2.0-3mdk.rpm
> pcmcia-cs-x11-3.2.0-3mdk.rpm
> In order to get the card to work.

Humm there is also the detection step.. I don't know if harddrake
can do that after the install.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Leon Brooks

On Wednesday 09 October 2002 08:28 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> Alkuperäinen viesti (liitetty) sisälsi vaarallista koodia.
> AntiVirus-Tutka on puhdistanut viestiä.

Not sure what language that's in, but it looks like your (ISP's) virus scanner 
decided that the gzipped report.bug was a virus. Try bzip2'ing it instead and 
see if it sneaks past.

Cheers; Leon





Re: Fw: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne

Thomas Backlund wrote:

>  2530 root   9   0  1532   7652 S 0,0  0,0   0:04 httpd-perl
>  2534 apache 9   0  15004 4 S 0,0  0,0   0:00 httpd-perl
>  2535 apache 9   0  15004 4 S 0,0  0,0   0:00 httpd-perl
>  2537 apache 9   0  15004 4 S 0,0  0,0   0:00 httpd-perl
>  2539 apache 9   0  15004 4 S 0,0  0,0   0:00 httpd-perl
>  2545 root   9   0  1292   8464 S 0,0  0,0   0:05 httpd
>  2552 root   9   0   2444 0 S 0,0  0,0   0:00 advxsplitlogfil
>  2553 apache 9   0  2892 1244  1016 S 0,0  0,2   0:01 httpd
>  2554 apache 9   0  2884 1240  1016 S 0,0  0,2   0:01 httpd
>  2555 apache 9   0  3584 1288  1024 S 0,0  0,2   0:04 httpd
>  2556 apache 9   0  3156 1244  1012 S 0,0  0,2   0:02 httpd
>  2558 apache 9   0  2880 1236  1012 S 0,0  0,2   0:02 httpd
>  2559 apache 9   0  243M 139M  1052 S 0,0 27,6   0:34 httpd
>  2560 apache 9   0  297M 169M 4 S 0,0 33,7   0:30 httpd
>  3636 apache 9   0  2992 1220  1012 S 0,0  0,2   0:01 httpd
> 14603 nobody 9   0   432  14096 S 0,0  0,0   0:00 proftpd
> 20800 apache 9   0  2120 1224  1040 S 0,0  0,2   0:00 httpd
> 20801 apache 9   0  2128 1228  1044 S 0,0  0,2   0:00 httpd
> 20802 apache 9   0  2124 1224  1040 S 0,0  0,2   0:00 httpd


PLEASE STOP SPAMMING THE LIST

Cooker is not a support list.

This looks like a support question.

No-one asked for 2 copies of 80k of logs (normally people ask for that 
amount of stuff privately).

If you take 30 seconds to look at this yourself, you will see what the 
problem is. Once you have confirmed whether it is a bug in apache, then 
your posts are warranted, but probably on a list that handles the stable 
release (aka advx-users, or if it is an exploit, discuss@mandrakesecure).

Please take this off this list.

Buchan

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Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121
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GPG Key   http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc
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Re: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Buchan Milne

Thomas Backlund wrote:

> Hi,
> here is my system:
> 
> dual PII 350, Intel BX chipset 512MB ECC SDRAM
> dual 18GB IBM SCSI HDD:s running linux soft-raid 1
> (even swap is on raid 1), all partitions uses ReiserFS
> 
> This machine runs:
> kernel-2.4.19.19mdk-1-1mdk
> 
> Web:
> apache 1.3.26-6mdk
> 
> Mail:
> postfix-1.1.11-4mdk
> courier-imap-1.5.3-1mdk
> 
> Rav antivirus mailscanner:
> ravmd 8.4.0-7
> ravcore 8.9.0-6
> ravpostfix 8.4.0-4
> 
> and here is my problem:
> 
> Output from 'top'
> ---
>   2:32pm  up 2 days, 15:20,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00
> 75 processes: 74 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states:  0,4% user,  0,6% system,  0,8% nice,  9,6% idle
> CPU0 states:  0,0% user,  0,0% system,  0,0% nice,  0,106% idle
> CPU1 states:  0,1% user,  0,5% system,  0,0% nice,  0,100% idle
> Mem:   515952K av,  508016K used,7936K free,   0K shrd,   99108K
> buff
> Swap:  256888K av,  256700K used, 188K free   49000K
> cached
> ---
> 
> So, what is eating my processor power, and my memory?
> 

Nothing is eating your CPU at this stage, only your memory (note the CPU 
states both <1%, which means no user space apps are eating CPU, but 
since they are only 01& idle, it must be the kernel keeping them busy, 
probably spending all it's time swapping.

> And before anyone asks, It is a FRESH install.



[snip]

You could have saved us 81k of logs, if you had sorted your top by 
memory usage (shift-M), since you know that memory us the problem, and 
you would have seen these at the top:


2559 apache 9   0  243M 139M  1052 S 0,0 27,6   0:34 httpd
2560 apache 9   0  297M 169M 4 S 0,0 33,7   0:30 httpd

Can you please keep this off cooker unless you have confirmed that it is 
a bug, and not some misconfiguration.

Your previous install doesn't mention apache, so do you need it? Have 
you done configuration?

Have you checked your apache logs?

Have you checked syslog?

Buchan

-- 
|Registered Linux User #182071-|
Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager
Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121
Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za
GPG Key   http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc
1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7





[Cooker] openssh-3.4p1-5mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Oden Eriksson

Hi.

I just found a patch by Van Dyke, the makers of SecureCRT (for win32) for 
openssh that might be interesting for Mandrake?

Patches are applied to this mail.

Chears.
-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson - Deserve-IT Networks http://d-srv.com

Check the "Modules For Apache2" status page at: 
http://d-srv.com/modules_for_apache2.html



diff -Naur openssh-3.4p1/Makefile.in openssh-3.4p1.oden/Makefile.in
--- openssh-3.4p1/Makefile.in	2002-06-25 23:45:42.0 +
+++ openssh-3.4p1.oden/Makefile.in	2002-10-09 14:36:44.0 +
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
 SSH_PROGRAM=@bindir@/ssh
 ASKPASS_PROGRAM=$(libexecdir)/ssh-askpass
 SFTP_SERVER=$(libexecdir)/sftp-server
+PUBLICKEY_SERVER=$(libexecdir)/publickey-server
 SSH_KEYSIGN=$(libexecdir)/ssh-keysign
 RAND_HELPER=$(libexecdir)/ssh-rand-helper
 PRIVSEP_PATH=@PRIVSEP_PATH@
@@ -32,6 +33,7 @@
 	-D_PATH_SSH_PROGRAM=\"$(SSH_PROGRAM)\" \
 	-D_PATH_SSH_ASKPASS_DEFAULT=\"$(ASKPASS_PROGRAM)\" \
 	-D_PATH_SFTP_SERVER=\"$(SFTP_SERVER)\" \
+	-D_PATH_PUBLICKEY_SERVER=\"$(PUBLICKEY_SERVER)\" \
 	-D_PATH_SSH_KEY_SIGN=\"$(SSH_KEYSIGN)\" \
 	-D_PATH_SSH_PIDDIR=\"$(piddir)\" \
 	-D_PATH_PRIVSEP_CHROOT_DIR=\"$(PRIVSEP_PATH)\" \
@@ -58,7 +60,7 @@
 
 @NO_SFTP@SFTP_PROGS=sftp-server$(EXEEXT) sftp$(EXEEXT)
 
-TARGETS=ssh$(EXEEXT) sshd$(EXEEXT) ssh-add$(EXEEXT) ssh-keygen$(EXEEXT) ssh-keyscan${EXEEXT} ssh-keysign${EXEEXT} ssh-agent$(EXEEXT) scp$(EXEEXT) ssh-rand-helper${EXEEXT} $(SFTP_PROGS)
+TARGETS=ssh$(EXEEXT) sshd$(EXEEXT) ssh-add$(EXEEXT) ssh-keygen$(EXEEXT) ssh-keyscan${EXEEXT} ssh-keysign${EXEEXT} ssh-agent$(EXEEXT) scp$(EXEEXT) ssh-rand-helper${EXEEXT} $(SFTP_PROGS) publickey-server${EXEEXT}
 
 LIBSSH_OBJS=atomicio.o authfd.o authfile.o bufaux.o buffer.o canohost.o channels.o cipher.o compat.o compress.o crc32.o deattack.o dh.o dispatch.o fatal.o mac.o msg.o hostfile.o key.o kex.o kexdh.o kexgex.o log.o match.o misc.o mpaux.o nchan.o packet.o radix.o rijndael.o entropy.o readpass.o rsa.o scard.o scard-opensc.o ssh-dss.o ssh-rsa.o tildexpand.o ttymodes.o uidswap.o uuencode.o xmalloc.o monitor_wrap.o monitor_fdpass.o
 
@@ -140,6 +142,9 @@
 sftp$(EXEEXT): $(LIBCOMPAT) libssh.a sftp.o sftp-client.o sftp-int.o sftp-common.o sftp-glob.o
 	$(LD) -o $@ sftp.o sftp-client.o sftp-common.o sftp-int.o sftp-glob.o $(LDFLAGS) -lssh -lopenbsd-compat $(LIBS)
 
+publickey-server$(EXEEXT): $(LIBCOMPAT) libssh.a servconf.o entropy.o auth.o groupaccess.o auth-options.o publickey-server.o
+	$(LD) -o $@ publickey-server.o servconf.o entropy.o auth.o groupaccess.o auth-options.o $(LDFLAGS) -lssh -lopenbsd-compat $(LIBS)
+
 ssh-rand-helper${EXEEXT}: $(LIBCOMPAT) libssh.a ssh-rand-helper.o
 	$(LD) -o $@ ssh-rand-helper.o $(LDFLAGS) -lssh -lopenbsd-compat $(LIBS)
 
@@ -232,6 +237,7 @@
 	$(INSTALL) -m 4711 -s ssh-keysign $(DESTDIR)$(SSH_KEYSIGN)
 	@NO_SFTP@$(INSTALL) -m 0755 -s sftp $(DESTDIR)$(bindir)/sftp
 	@NO_SFTP@$(INSTALL) -m 0755 -s sftp-server $(DESTDIR)$(SFTP_SERVER)
+	$(INSTALL) -m 0755 -s publickey-server $(DESTDIR)$(PUBLICKEY_SERVER)
 	$(INSTALL) -m 644 ssh.1.out $(DESTDIR)$(mandir)/$(mansubdir)1/ssh.1
 	$(INSTALL) -m 644 scp.1.out $(DESTDIR)$(mandir)/$(mansubdir)1/scp.1
 	$(INSTALL) -m 644 ssh-add.1.out $(DESTDIR)$(mandir)/$(mansubdir)1/ssh-add.1
@@ -330,6 +336,7 @@
 	-rm -f $(DESTDIR)$(bindir)/sftp$(EXEEXT)
 	-rm -f $(DESTDIR)$(sbindir)/sshd$(EXEEXT)
 	-rm -r $(DESTDIR)$(SFTP_SERVER)$(EXEEXT)
+	-rm -r $(DESTDIR)$(PUBLICKEY_SERVER)$(EXEEXT)
 	-rm -f $(DESTDIR)$(SSH_KEYSIGN)$(EXEEXT)
 	-rm -f $(DESTDIR)$(RAND_HELPER)$(EXEEXT)
 	-rm -f $(DESTDIR)$(mandir)/$(mansubdir)1/ssh.1
diff -Naur openssh-3.4p1/publickey-server.c openssh-3.4p1.oden/publickey-server.c
--- openssh-3.4p1/publickey-server.c	1970-01-01 00:00:00.0 +
+++ openssh-3.4p1.oden/publickey-server.c	2002-10-09 14:36:44.0 +
@@ -0,0 +1,611 @@
+/*
+ *  publickey-server for OpenSSH -- August 02, 2002
+ *
+ *   Copyright © 1995-2002 VanDyke Software, Inc.
+ *   All rights reserved.
+ *
+ * Portions Copyright (c) 2000, 2001, 2002 Markus Friedl.  All rights reserved.
+ *
+ * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
+ * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
+ * are met:
+ * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
+ *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
+ * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
+ *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
+ *documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
+ *
+ * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
+ * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
+ * OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED.
+ * IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT,
+ * INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT
+ * NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SU

Re: [Cooker] Where is the dictionary file of open office?

2002-10-09 Thread Robert C. Dowdy

On Saturday 05 October 2002 5:55 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Vox wrote:
> > Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Hi all, I have installed the mandrake version rpm package of
> > > OpenOffice. However, the package don't contain any dictionary files.
> > > Where can I find the dictionary file and install?
> >
> >   urpmi OpenOffice.org-l10n-
> >
> >   Vox
>
> Actullay, try:
>
> # urpmi myspell
>
> and then select your language. OpenOffice.org requires a myspell, so you
> probably have one installed already, you might want to use Software
> Manager to search for myspell, and choose additional dictionaries.
>
> But, please remember that this is not a support list, and your post was
> not a bug report, but seems very much like a support question. There are
> more appropriate lists for that.
>
> Regards,
> Buchan

Actually, I believe this *is* a bug.  I've installed 9.0 final three times and 
each time spell checking in OpenOffice.org was broken until I manually 
installed a US English myspell (which newbies certainly wouldn't know to do).  
It doesn't seem likely that OO.o should have broken spell-checking 
intentionally.  Maybe it's just a problem for US English installations.  I'm 
not sure.

The most serious aspect of this is that OO.o doesn't TELL the user that 
spelling is broken.  I could set Autocheck to "yes" and it didn't complain, 
it just didn't do anything.  I could manually order a spellcheck, and it 
didn't complain, it just didn't work (as if there were no spelling errors in 
the document, even if the document was all gibberish).

Again, this definitely sounds like a bug to me.  =)

Regards,
Rob




Fw: [Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Backlund

From: "Thomas Backlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi,
> here is my system:
>
> dual PII 350, Intel BX chipset 512MB ECC SDRAM
> dual 18GB IBM SCSI HDD:s running linux soft-raid 1
> (even swap is on raid 1), all partitions uses ReiserFS
>
> This machine runs:
> kernel-2.4.19.19mdk-1-1mdk
>
> Web:
> apache 1.3.26-6mdk
>
> Mail:
> postfix-1.1.11-4mdk
> courier-imap-1.5.3-1mdk
>
> Rav antivirus mailscanner:
> ravmd 8.4.0-7
> ravcore 8.9.0-6
> ravpostfix 8.4.0-4
>
> and here is my problem:
>
> Output from 'top'
> ---
>   2:32pm  up 2 days, 15:20,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00
> 75 processes: 74 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states:  0,4% user,  0,6% system,  0,8% nice,  9,6% idle
> CPU0 states:  0,0% user,  0,0% system,  0,0% nice,  0,106% idle
> CPU1 states:  0,1% user,  0,5% system,  0,0% nice,  0,100% idle
> Mem:   515952K av,  508016K used,7936K free,   0K shrd,   99108K
> buff
> Swap:  256888K av,  256700K used, 188K free   49000K
> cached
> ---
>
> So, what is eating my processor power, and my memory?
>
> And before anyone asks, It is a FRESH install.
> Before this Install, the same system was running
> MDK 8.2 with all official updates, and with theese installed:
>
> Mail: (same as now)
> postfix-1.1.11-4mdk
> courier-imap-1.5.3-1mdk
>
> Rav antivirus mailscanner: (same as now)
> ravmd 8.4.0-7
> ravcore 8.9.0-6
> ravpostfix 8.4.0-4
>
> With this system I had no problem what so ever...,
> and swapfile was newer used, and both processors were about 98% idle...
>
> So, the only changes in the system are:
> - the obvious differences between MDK 8.2 and 9.0
>   (newer apache, glibc, kernel, ...)
> - ReiserFS instead of ext3.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thomas
>

Sorry about the false virus-alarm,
I haven't got the RAV configuration 100% correct yet...

Here is some more info on the system...
I had to restart the server to prevent system going into DOS, or crash,
ad here is what 'top' prints out now:

  3:54pm  up 24 min,  1 user,  load average: 0,07, 0,02, 0,00
79 processes: 78 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  0,2% user,  0,6% system,  0,0% nice, 198,8% idle
CPU0 states:  0,1% user,  0,4% system,  0,0% nice, 57,0% idle
CPU1 states:  0,0% user,  0,1% system,  0,0% nice, 102,0% idle
Mem:   515952K av,  107596K used,  408356K free,   0K shrd,   22620K
buff
Swap:  256888K av,   0K used,  256888K free   28148K
cached

this is lookinh a bit better, bu going from this state
to the state mentioned above in just 2.5 days is horrible...

Thomas




report.bug.gz
Description: Binary data

  F S   UID   PID  PPID  C PRI  NI ADDRSZ WCHAN  TTYTIME CMD
100 S 0 1 0  0  69   0-   322 do_sel ? 11:09 init
040 S 0 2 1  0  69   0- 0 contex ?  0:02 [keventd]
040 S 0 3 1  0  79  19- 0 ksofti ?  0:00 [ksoftirqd_
040 S 0 4 1  0  79  19- 0 ksofti ?  0:00 [ksoftirqd_
040 S 0 5 1  0  69   0- 0 kswapd ?  1:06 [kswapd]
040 S 0 6 1  0  69   0- 0 bdflus ?  0:03 [bdflush]
040 S 0 7 1  0  69   0- 0 kupdat ?  0:39 [kupdated]
040 S 0 8 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [mdrecovery
040 S 012 1  0  69   0- 0 down_i ?  0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
040 S 016 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 017 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 018 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 019 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 020 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 021 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 022 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 023 1  0  69   0- 0 end?  0:00 [kreiserfsd
140 S 0   195 1  0  68   0-   419 devfsd ?  0:16 devfsd /dev
040 S 0   279 1  0  69   0- 0 end?  0:00 [khubd]
140 S 0   843 1  0  69   0-   340 do_sel ?  0:29 syslogd -m 
140 S 0   851 1  0  69   0-   510 do_sys ?  0:00 klogd -2
040 S 2   902 1  0  69   0-   328 nanosl ?  0:00 /usr/sbin/a
140 S 0   935 1  0  69   0-   428 do_sel ?  0:09 ntpd -A
040 S 0  1031 1  1  64   0-   371 nanosl ? 39:43 crond
100 S 0  1071 1  0  69   0-   311 read_c vc/2   0:00 /sbin/minge
100 S 0  1072 1  0  69   0-   311 read_c vc/3   0:00 /sbin/minge
100 S 0  1073 1  0  69   0-   311 read_c vc/4   0:00 /sbin/minge
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[Cooker] MDK 9.0 fresh install on SMP machine, bugs? found...

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Backlund


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Hi,
here is my system:

dual PII 350, Intel BX chipset 512MB ECC SDRAM
dual 18GB IBM SCSI HDD:s running linux soft-raid 1
(even swap is on raid 1), all partitions uses ReiserFS

This machine runs:
kernel-2.4.19.19mdk-1-1mdk

Web:
apache 1.3.26-6mdk

Mail:
postfix-1.1.11-4mdk
courier-imap-1.5.3-1mdk

Rav antivirus mailscanner:
ravmd 8.4.0-7
ravcore 8.9.0-6
ravpostfix 8.4.0-4

and here is my problem:

Output from 'top'
---
  2:32pm  up 2 days, 15:20,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,00, 0,00
75 processes: 74 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  0,4% user,  0,6% system,  0,8% nice,  9,6% idle
CPU0 states:  0,0% user,  0,0% system,  0,0% nice,  0,106% idle
CPU1 states:  0,1% user,  0,5% system,  0,0% nice,  0,100% idle
Mem:   515952K av,  508016K used,7936K free,   0K shrd,   99108K
buff
Swap:  256888K av,  256700K used, 188K free   49000K
cached
---

So, what is eating my processor power, and my memory?

And before anyone asks, It is a FRESH install.
Before this Install, the same system was running
MDK 8.2 with all official updates, and with theese installed:

Mail: (same as now)
postfix-1.1.11-4mdk
courier-imap-1.5.3-1mdk

Rav antivirus mailscanner: (same as now)
ravmd 8.4.0-7
ravcore 8.9.0-6
ravpostfix 8.4.0-4

With this system I had no problem what so ever...,
and swapfile was newer used, and both processors were about 98% idle...

So, the only changes in the system are:
- the obvious differences between MDK 8.2 and 9.0
  (newer apache, glibc, kernel, ...)
- ReiserFS instead of ext3.

Any ideas?

Thomas



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040 S 0 3 1  0  79  19- 0 ksofti ?  0:00 [ksoftirqd_
040 S 0 4 1  0  79  19- 0 ksofti ?  0:00 [ksoftirqd_
040 S 0 5 1  0  69   0- 0 kswapd ?  1:06 [kswapd]
040 S 0 6 1  0  69   0- 0 bdflus ?  0:03 [bdflush]
040 S 0 7 1  0  69   0- 0 kupdat ?  0:39 [kupdated]
040 S 0 8 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [mdrecovery
040 S 012 1  0  69   0- 0 down_i ?  0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
040 S 016 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 017 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 018 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 019 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
040 S 020 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
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040 S 022 1  0  59 -20- 0 md_thr ?  0:00 [raid1d]
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-09 Thread Gael Duval

Warly wrote:
>>b) The mailing list is not easily searchable for people who aren't
>>maintaining their own archives.  Before everyone starts pointing me off
>>to the web archives at theaimsgroup hear me out here.  I often have
>>difficulty finding messages there that I know were posted.  Frankly the
>>search on that site is not all that effective.  But even considering
>>that, Mandrake doesn't even link to it anywhere that I know of.  No
>>mention of online archives are made on the cookerdevel.php3 page.  You
>>can find an archive listing on the Lists page but that only goes to
>>Mandrake's archive that isn't searchable.  We criticize posters for
>>reposting the same bugs time and time again yet we don't provide them
>>easy access to find out if their bug has been reported and even possibly
>>fixed.  Thierry even states repeated bug reports are a source of
>>irritation for him and I'm sure he isn't alone.
>>
> 
> Gael, Ben is right on this point our archives are less usable than the
> one at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker. Maybe could we
> link to them on the cooker page?
> 
> Regarding the search, I fix the quick search on the bugzilla main page, and
> it would be nice, as Pixel suggested, to have a ligther complex search page, so
> that anyone prefer searching for bugs instead of posting new ones.

It would be more coherent to add a search tool to our mailling-lists archives. 
We'll see if we can add one, and if not, we will link to the archives above.

Gaël.

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[Cooker] Problem with bluecurve theme

2002-10-09 Thread Chris Picton

Hi

There is a problem with the gtk1 bluecurve theme.

Active menu items are light grey background, white foreground, and I
can't read the text.

gtk2 bluecurve has a blue background, white foreground.
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[Cooker] MDK9.0: Rescue Mode is still showing 8.2 cooker

2002-10-09 Thread prabu anand

Hi Guys,

In MDK9.0, if you drop in to the console of Rescue
Mode, you will the version there as 8.2 cooker.

Is it required to maintain version numbers at so many
places, and have difficulty updating them. Eventhough,
i tested MDK9.0 since beta4, i didn't goto rescue mode
then, so didn't see the problem then.

Hope in 9.1 this will be taken care of.

Cheers.,
Prabu



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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xaos-3.1-0.pre5.3mdk

2002-10-09 Thread Götz Waschk

Hi,

what's with the xaos-svgalib package, shouldn't we dump it? Svgalib
isn't in cooker for a while.

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Re: [Cooker] MakeCD problems: Warly, do you have a workaround?

2002-10-09 Thread Dave Fluri

mardi, le 08 octobre, 2002 06h19, Leon Brooks a écrit:
> On Tuesday 08 October 2002 03:15 am, Warly wrote:
> > Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> On Friday 04 October 2002 01:47 am, Warly wrote:
> >>
> >> I found at least one reason for the ISO not being created:
> >>> /mnt/disk/cooker//misc//parsehdlist: error while loading shared
> >>> libraries: librpm-4.0.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No \ such
> >>> file or directory
> >>
> >> Yes. And, AS I POSTED HERE EARLIER ON THIS TOPIC, if you point
> >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH at the directory containing that library, everything
> >> else on 8.2, stuff like `less' and `cat', dies.
> >>
> >> Do you have a workaround?
> >
> > I do not understand your problem.
>
> MakeCD doesn't work on an 8.2 system. If I download Cooker (or 9.0) onto an
> 8.2 system and do a MakeCD, it does because it cannot find the librpm-4.0.4
> libraries which are part of cooker/9.0. If I define LD_LIBRARY_PATH to
> include the directory with those libraries, everything else in that shell
> session dies, including some system utilities necessary for making the CDs.
>
> Cheers; Leon

I have a very similar problem in trying to build the ISOs on an 8.1 system 
but I get a "Permission denied" error on ldlinux.so.2 when running as root.

Dave




Re: [Cooker] the drakfont problem/ntfs problem

2002-10-09 Thread Frederic Crozat

Le Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:15:22 +, Victor a écrit :

> I checked /etc/X11/XftConfig and it looks fine. I also ran the ttmkfdir 
> on the font dirs with truetype fonts.
> 
> One new thing I noticed is that root can run gnome-terminal with 
> GDK_USE_XFT=1, but there are still error messages:

Don't try to use gnome-terminal to check your fonts, it uses non standard
technique to get them.. Use gedit instead..

Try running :
gconftool-2 -u /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name
/desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name

to reset fonts to known working names..

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-09 Thread Warly

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

>
>> * improved bugzilla to have a easy mail interaction system, and a more
>> friendly interface. And to have a last known problems page.
>

[...]

>
> Problems:
> a) Various places have inconsistent reporting instructions and
> requirements.  Some people/sites tell people to post to mandrake expert,
> others to bugzilla or even the cooker mailing list.  There abounds 
> confusion as to where to report and what to include in your report.

Yes, I would like to have only one advertised bug reporting method
for 9.1, bugzilla. However to face too many or not meaningful bug reports,
they will default in UNCONFIRMED states and will need 2, or more if needed
confirmation before becoming new. 

I would like to forward them to cooker and make cooker guy able to answer
to them via mail and confirm them, invalid them and maybe even close them.

> b) The mailing list is not easily searchable for people who aren't
> maintaining their own archives.  Before everyone starts pointing me off
> to the web archives at theaimsgroup hear me out here.  I often have
> difficulty finding messages there that I know were posted.  Frankly the
> search on that site is not all that effective.  But even considering
> that, Mandrake doesn't even link to it anywhere that I know of.  No
> mention of online archives are made on the cookerdevel.php3 page.  You
> can find an archive listing on the Lists page but that only goes to
> Mandrake's archive that isn't searchable.  We criticize posters for
> reposting the same bugs time and time again yet we don't provide them
> easy access to find out if their bug has been reported and even possibly
> fixed.  Thierry even states repeated bug reports are a source of
> irritation for him and I'm sure he isn't alone.

Gael, Ben is right on this point our archives are less usable than the
one at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker. Maybe could we
link to them on the cooker page?

Regarding the search, I fix the quick search on the bugzilla main page, and
it would be nice, as Pixel suggested, to have a ligther complex search page, so
that anyone prefer searching for bugs instead of posting new ones.

[...]

> Strengths:
> a) The list is wonderful at back and forth interactions.
> b) We've developed methods of dealing with large amounts of email and
> work around that. 
> c) Bad reports are easy to get rid of.  You just hit the delete key.
> d) It's a push system rather than pull.  Meaning the reports come to us
> rather than requiring us to go get them.
>
> Solutions:
>

[...]

> Now that I've covered the general arguments regarding bugzilla, let's
> cover how it solves the problems...
>
> (a) Just make it the only place to post.
> (b) bugzilla provides us with good searching.  Duplicates can be closed
> by volunteers and linked to the open bug report, freeing developers to
> pay attention to the real bug reports.  
> (c) KDE reduced bad bug reports
> by asking lots of questions and trying to walk a person through a search
> of the bug database before posting.  Simply requiring users to enter
> relevant package versions, hardware information etc... would decrease
> developer's having to go back and ask for more information constantly.
> Poor bug reports could be moderated, closed, etc by volunteers, leaving
> developers with more time to deal with the issues that filter up to
> them.  Plus, if bugzilla is setup to route bugs only to the maintainer
> of the package, we decrease the number of bad bugs developers have to go
> through.  Bugzilla, however, does still allow for interactive question
> and response via email... Developer posts a response.  The reporter and
> people who are interested in the issue get an email.  Someone replies to
> the email and their response goes back in bugzilla.  Everyone else gets
> a copy of it in their email box.  Basically the same as the mailing
> list, except it's stored in a database and only truly interested parties
> get it (though there could be a list with *ALL* the traffic for
> masochists).  
> (d) This would be solved too.  The list would become a discussion area
> for just developers.  Users wouldn't feel the need to come here much.
> The list would be easier to read and more relevant.  Specifics to
> certain packages would stay on bugzilla.  The few bug reports that
> showed up on the list could be told to report it on bugzilla.  
> (e) Followup is built into the process.  Reporters would get emailed as
> to the status of their bug(s) and all comments or changes made to it.  
> (f) Not an issue.  The list is less important.  Users get instant
> feedback via email showing their bug report id(s) and URL(s) to look at
> their report.  They can see their report in the searches.  
> (g) It's easy to get a report of overall bug count.  Even with bad bug
> reports we'll eventually get an idea of how many bugs we should get down
> to before we think things are looking stable.

Yes, this is sensible. Create 

[Cooker] KDE logoff problems.

2002-10-09 Thread Ron Stodden

KDE logoff problems.

With Mandrake 9.0 I use KDE 3.0.3 with the Desktop Pager and 6 Desktops 
(Work, Inet, Sys, Mount, #5, Print).

Whenever I logoff, only the Desktop Pager is removed.

If I then logoff again, usually KDE goes down as it should.

But not always.  In this case no amount of logoffs changes the 
situation, and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does not just kill the X server back 
to a command prompt, but takes the whole system down to a unreqested reboot.

This behaviour is definitely not according to the book.

Further, with these 6 desktops applications present at logoff are not 
restored to the correct desktop after a boot or reboot.  They all 
usually appear on top of each other on Desktop 1.

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Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor

2002-10-09 Thread Bernard Varaine

After installing with the delete /mnt/lib/i686 trick it does work fine.

Enlightment is a bit on the sluggish side on it but it is not really for 
this purpose..

Has been runnign since this morning acting as traffic logger and running 
tcpdump for hours .

going to "play" setting it up for my ISP connection
modem uplink-satellite downlink
with proxy filtering firewalling  etc and see how well it runs

Bernard

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Re: [Cooker] update-menus

2002-10-09 Thread Richard Čepas

Probably somebody forgot to add 'use bytes;' to that script.  If you invoke it by hand 
you may try that as:
env LC_ALL=C update-menus

On Tue Oct  8 15:23:52 2002 +0200 Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:

>anyone knows what causes this? happens whenever I run 'update-menus'
>
>Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected non-continuation byte 0x79, 
>immediately after start byte 0xf8) in pattern match (m//) at 
>/usr/bin/restorekdemimetypes.pl line 53,  line 11.
>Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected non-continuation byte 0x72, 
>immediately after start byte 0xe6) in pattern match (m//) at 
>/usr/bin/restorekdemimetypes.pl line 53,  line 38.
>Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected non-continuation byte 0x72, 
>immediately after start byte 0xe6) in pattern match (m//) at 
>/usr/bin/restorekdemimetypes.pl line 53,  line 39.
>Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected non-continuation byte 0x79, 
>immediately after start byte 0xf8) in pattern match (m//) at 
>/usr/bin/restorekdemimetypes.pl line 53,  line 59.
>
>

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Re: [Cooker] urpm.pm on /

2002-10-09 Thread François Pons

Philippe Coulonges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> And I have a number of message like this
> 
> Bareword found where operator expected at /dev/null line 1, near ""infofr.dat" 
> created"
>   (Missing operator before created?)
> Number found where operator expected at /dev/null line 2, near "were 42"
>   (Do you need to predeclare were?)
> Bareword found where operator expected at /dev/null line 2, near "42 strings"
>   (Missing operator before strings?)
> ...
> 
> Something is missing, I guess.

The best you can do is "rpm --rebuilddb; rpm -Uvh --force ..." on your urpmi
package to see if it fixes ?

François.




Re: [Cooker] Re: MakeCD Problems

2002-10-09 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Warly wrote:

> "Trent M. Gunnarson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello All  :-)
> >
> > Since before the final release of ver.9, I've been working with several people 
> > on creating Mandrake ISOs using the MakeCD script and here's what I've found, 
> > with the help and verification of others;
> >
> > 1) While using a standard 8.2 install, the MakeCD script found in the ver.9 
> > distro tree will *not* create ver.9 ISOs.
> 
> I just installed a 8.2 and test, and it works for me, maybe try with the cooker
> version.
> 
> > This leads me to say that maybe MakeCD/mkcd should be pulled from general use 
> > until its function can be replaced with a tool that is;
> >
> > 1) Standalone binary
> > 2) Version independant
> 
> This is supposed to be the case, but as mkcd is still in development, it may
> suffers some problem.
> 
> > When I found the MakeCD script, I had high hopes that I'd be able to rsync the 
> > package mirror and create ISO's when the the distro became *Final Release*, 
> > then I'd be able to upgrade my home network using the shiny new cds.  I've 
> > since discovered that in order to create cds, one needs to have already 
> > upgraded.  This seems a bit counterproductive.
> 
> I should not be the case. I even test MakeCD on a redhat 8.0 and it works.
I can confirm that MakeCD works under RedHat 7.2/7.3. About a month ago I
was having problem getting MakeCD to work under RedHat but after
exchanging some emails with Warly on the cooker list the problem was
diagnosed and fixed.

> This is not the mkcd goal to ease download, use rsync for that.
rsync really will do a great job of only tansfering the parts of a file it 
needs. The only catch is that you need the destination and source files to 
have the same name.

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[Cooker] LM9.0: Cups printing acting strangely...

2002-10-09 Thread Frederic Soulier

Hi

I had printing using CUPS on an Epson Stylus Photo 870 perfectly setup
and working since I installed LM9.0 and but now this is what happens:


$ lpq
EP870_1 is ready
no entries

$ lpr .bash_profile   (prints it OK)

$ lpr -PEP870_1 .bash_profile (prints it OK)


Any attempt to print a test page from KDE Control Center (Print Manager)
or from Mandrake Control Center does not work...
I can see the job being queue ($ lpq) but it never prints.

- Using kprinter is also a no go.
- Printing from applications is a no go as well.
- Printing from http://localhost:631/ is a no-go

In all these situations where it does not print I can see the job being
queue using "lpq" or "lpq -PEP870_1"

So the only way to print right now is to use lpr from the command
line...

The Printer is setup to allow all users to print. It's setup as a local
printer URI: file:/dev/usb/lp0


What's wrong?

/Fred