Re: [Cooker] find_requires script don't take to statically linked obj

2003-06-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Donnerstag,  5. Juni 2003, 03:58:38 Uhr MET, schrieb R.I.P. Deaddog:
 On 2003-06-03(Tue) 10:58:42 +0200, Götz Waschk wrote:
  it would be nice if the find_requires script would parse the
  dependancies of static libraries, but how to do this? It's easy to
  find out the dependant libs of shared libraries, but AFAIK shared
  libraries only contain information about which symbols are unresolved,
  but no information on where to get that symbols. Has anyone thought
 
 Seems you can obtain dependency info via objdump too:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lib]$ objdump -p /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so.1 | grep NEEDED

Arrgh, that was a typo, I wanted to write 'AFAIK static libraries only
contain ...'. 
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gnome-network-1.99.0-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Götz Waschk
  This could need a better description. Could anyone of the native
  english speakers please suggest one? 
 You can take a better description from the announcement:
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2003-June/msg8.html

Thanks, I'll update the package. 
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[Cooker] Contrib package: openclit-12-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Andi Payn
From the package description:
 OpenCLit converts ebooks from the proprietary Microsoft .lit format
 to the Open eBook format. There are no programs that can read .lit 
 books for linux (or anything but recent versions of Windows and
 PocketPC), so this is the only way to read .lit files. 
 
 Unfortunately, the only programs that can handle Open eBook files on
 linux are closed source (e.g., Opera), but the .opf file is an XML
 document, and the actual text and graphics are stored in standard
 formats like html and jpg.

The DRM5 features do not work on linux (you need a registered copy of 
Microsoft Reader, and there is no such thing for linux), but the main 
functionality (converting to Open eBook format) works just fine.

The name and version number are pretty inconsistent (it's openclit, clit, 
clit12, convertlit, etc., and the version is 12 or 1.2), but I think this is 
that openclit-12 is the best way to name the package (and the binary is 
/usr/bin/clit).

A few possible issues:

* The code is distributed as GPL according to the website, but there's no 
COPYING or LICENSE file--so, while the copyleft notice is included in the 
source, it won't make it anywhere into the binary package.

* One of the included libraries (which it statically links) is GPL'd by 
another author (the rest are public domain), and his copyleft message won't 
appear anywhere in the binary package either.

* Converting .lit books that you own into a format that you can read on linux 
(or a Palm, or even an older PocketPC or Windows box) should be legal fair 
use in America or any Berne Convention signatory (just like programs to 
convert .doc, .pdf, etc. to other formats), but I am not a lawyer, and 
neither is the author.

* The source contains code for DRM5 stuff, some of which might make Microsoft 
unhappy (and some of which might be more useful for pirates than for 
legitimate users). However, none of this code gets built under linux.

* There are some offensive puns throughout the source code (you can guess them 
from the package name).

If any of these issues prevent Mandrake from wanting to distribute openclit, 
hopefully the PLF people will want it. (You can get a copy from the same 
place as the other packages I submitted to PLF earlier.)




Re: [Cooker] Contrib package: zero-inst

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Andi Payn wrote:
 From the package description:

The Zero Install System is a URI-based network filesystem, together
with a mechanism for running applications (including any necessary
libraries) directly off the internet. Instead of installing an
application, a zero-inst user can just start the application by its
URI. Any needed binaries are downloaded and cached locally, so there's
essentially no speed hit. For frequently-used applications, a user can
add a menu entry, web link, bash alias, etc. that points to the URI.

Note that zero-inst is still a work in progress. Since it requires a
kernel patch, and the whole point is to run binaries directly from the
internet, it's probably a bad idea to use zero-inst on a production
system at this stage.


 See http://zero-install.souceforge.net for more details.

I get a 404 on this site.

I have serious issues with this idea, unless it is coupled with the DRM
kind of stuff Linus mentioned a while back, such as signed binaries and
the kernel module requiring validation of all binaries before use.


 The zero-inst developers are all Rox users, so the documentation is a bit
 focused on Rox users, but it works just fine with any KDE, GNOME, or no
 desktop at all. However, at present, there are only a few demo programs
 available for zero-inst (all in
/uri/http/zero-install.sourceforge.net/demo,
 and all built only for ix86), so it's not terribly useful yet.

 The source package builds two binary packages: zero-inst and
 zero-inst-kernelmod. You need to have the kernel source for the kernel
you
 want to run against to build the package, and you need to be using the
 matching kernel version to install the -kernelmod package. I couldn't
think
 of a good way to check this. I put in a BuildRequires: kernel-source
but
 that doesn't really cover it.

It should, mostly.

 (What if you're using kernel-multimedia?

kernel-multimedia-source should provide kernel-source. Danny? In 9.1 it
provides alsa-source and kernel-multimedia-source.

(BTW, I require kernel-source for the win4lin kernel packages I am
working on, so if we're going to consider win4lin-multimedia kernel
images you need to provide kernel-source so other users don't need to
- --nodeps on build ...)

 Or if
 you've upgraded to a new kernel but still have the old kernel-source?)

No problem if you have the modules themselves, doesn't matter which
source is installed (actually, it's probably best to upgrade
kernel-source and build all kernel-dependant packages before rebooting
into the new kernel.

 And
 there doesn't seem to be any way to make the binary package require the
 kernel version used for building (another feature for automated
requirements
 gathering?).


You have to do this yourself at present, it's not difficult.

 The kernel module handles the virtual filesystem; updating the cache
is done
 with user-space tools. The tool to automatically download files the first
 time (zero-install) is pretty much complete, but the tools for
throwing away
 old cached files when they're unneeded (or for updating to newer
versions)
 aren't. Also, while zero-install is downloading files, the parent process
 locks up with no feedback, and the tools to see what's happening are only
 partially complete (try the 0show command-line tool).

 I slapped together an init script, RPM pre/post scripts, etc. in about
a half
 hour, and they may need more work--it seems to work fine for me;
that's all I
 can promise.


I have some example spec files, (win4lin kernel images, NVidia kernel
modules, ltmodem kernel modules) if you want to see how it's done.

Regards,
Buchan

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RE: [Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install

2003-06-05 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Gerald Drouillard wrote:

 This issue has been talked about on the list but it doesn't appear that
 the maintainer of the package is listening.

The maintainer is listening but he won't repeat the same things endlessly. 
Warly fixed the hdlist problem, i.e. that's not a package problem. 
However, it does seem to reappear.

Short story: Stefan tried to upload a glibc but obviously that was 
rejected but not completetly. I further uploaded the right version-release 
to also replace ldconfig  timezone packages that could go in.

Anyhow, there will be a new glibc package to address an LSB regression 
occuring because of a kernel bug.

Bye,
Gwenole.



Re: [Cooker] perl(the) MySQL-client-4.0.13-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Warly
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi

 I think I've found what is triggering /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req to think a 
 perl(the) module is needed..., and the answer is use the.

 rpm -qp --qf [%{requirename}\n] MySQL-client-4.0.13-1mdk.i586.rpm | grep the
 perl(the)

 grep use the /usr/bin/mysqlaccess
 use the option --old_server.
 #When matching, use the first found match.


 I tried this hack but it didn't work:

 %global __perl_requires /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req $* | sed -e '/perl(the)/d'

 It's currently impossible to install mysql on klama because of this...

Put

%define _requires_exceptions perl(the)

in the spec.

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RE: [Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install

2003-06-05 Thread Gerald Drouillard
Thanks for the update Gwenole.
 
 The maintainer is listening but he won't repeat the same things 
 endlessly. 
 Warly fixed the hdlist problem, i.e. that's not a package problem. 
 However, it does seem to reappear.
 
 Short story: Stefan tried to upload a glibc but obviously that was 
 rejected but not completetly. I further uploaded the right 
 version-release 
 to also replace ldconfig  timezone packages that could go in.
 
 Anyhow, there will be a new glibc package to address an LSB regression 
 occuring because of a kernel bug.
 
 Bye,
 Gwenole.
 



[Cooker] krusader-1.20-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread maxxik
  Hi !

  I have the question here :

in changelog maillist i can see : [Contrib-Rpm] krusader-1.20-1mdk

but when i try to fing it anywhere in cooker mirrors  - nothing
here (

whats problem ?




Re: [Cooker] krusader-1.20-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Donnerstag,  5. Juni 2003, 14:54:02 Uhr MET, schrieb maxxik:
   I have the question here :
 in changelog maillist i can see : [Contrib-Rpm] krusader-1.20-1mdk
 but when i try to fing it anywhere in cooker mirrors  - nothing
 here (

I guess this was an upload problem. Take a look at the SRPMS dir of
your local contribs mirror, the source package is there but the
binary is missing.
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Re: [Cooker] perl(the) MySQL-client-4.0.13-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 5 juni 2003 13.29 skrev Warly:
 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi
 
  I think I've found what is triggering /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req to think a
  perl(the) module is needed..., and the answer is use the.
 
  rpm -qp --qf [%{requirename}\n] MySQL-client-4.0.13-1mdk.i586.rpm |
  grep the perl(the)
 
  grep use the /usr/bin/mysqlaccess
  use the option --old_server.
  #When matching, use the first found match.
 
 
  I tried this hack but it didn't work:
 
  %global __perl_requires /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req $* | sed -e '/perl(the)/d'
 
  It's currently impossible to install mysql on klama because of this...

 Put

 %define _requires_exceptions perl(the)

 in the spec.

Awesome!

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[Cooker] Re: 9.0-9.1 - keyboard configuration in X unusable in Russian locale

2003-06-05 Thread Pixel
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In 9.0 (and before) all I had to do was 
  
 Option XkbLayout ru(winkeys) 
  
 and I could switch between Russian and US layouts. Now it is obviously needed 
  
 Option XkbLayout us,ru(winkeys) 
  
 having old line leads to only Russian keyboard layout available. 

adding the following to %post of XFree86-server should do:

if grep -q 'Option.*XkbOptions.*grp:' /etc/X11/XF86Config-4; then
perl -pi -e 's/^(\s*Option\s*XkbLayout\s*)([^,]*)/$1us,$2/' 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4
fi

- it should be run only on upgrade
- it would be better if it would be run only when upgrading from
  XFree86  4.3

fred, can you add it?



[Cooker] [Bug 4028] [OpenOffice.org] New: Lost libgcc3.2 and libstdc++3.2

2003-06-05 Thread [linux]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4028

   Product: OpenOffice.org
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Lost libgcc3.2 and libstdc++3.2
   Product: OpenOffice.org
   Version: 1.0.3-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: blocker
  Priority: P1
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, 
I can't install OpenOffice.org because I can't install libgcc3.2 and 
listdc++3.2, I have this error message :  
OpenOffice.org-1.0.3-2mdk.i586 (libgcc3.2[= 3.2-0.3mdk] non satisfait, 
libstdc++3.2[= 3.2-0.3mdk] non satisfait)

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[Cooker] [Bug 4028] [OpenOffice.org] New: Lost libgcc3.2 and libstdc++3.2

2003-06-05 Thread [linux]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4028

   Product: OpenOffice.org
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Lost libgcc3.2 and libstdc++3.2
   Product: OpenOffice.org
   Version: 1.0.3-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: blocker
  Priority: P1
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, 
I can't install OpenOffice.org because I can't install libgcc3.2 and 
listdc++3.2, I have this error message :  
OpenOffice.org-1.0.3-2mdk.i586 (libgcc3.2[= 3.2-0.3mdk] non satisfait, 
libstdc++3.2[= 3.2-0.3mdk] non satisfait)

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[Cooker] [Bug 4028] [OpenOffice.org] New: Lost libgcc3.2 and libstdc++3.2

2003-06-05 Thread [linux]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4028

   Product: OpenOffice.org
 Component: packaging
   Summary: Lost libgcc3.2 and libstdc++3.2
   Product: OpenOffice.org
   Version: 1.0.3-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: blocker
  Priority: P1
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, 
I can't install OpenOffice.org because I can't install libgcc3.2 and 
listdc++3.2, I have this error message :  
OpenOffice.org-1.0.3-2mdk.i586 (libgcc3.2[= 3.2-0.3mdk] non satisfait, 
libstdc++3.2[= 3.2-0.3mdk] non satisfait)

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[Cooker] [Bug 3533] [gdm] gdm and configuration refresh

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3533


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It seems to be fixed with gdm 2.4.1.4-1mdk from cooker.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3533] [gdm] gdm and configuration refresh

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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It seems to be fixed with gdm 2.4.1.4-1mdk from cooker.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3533] [gdm] gdm and configuration refresh

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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It seems to be fixed with gdm 2.4.1.4-1mdk from cooker.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3533] [gdm] gdm and configuration refresh

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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It seems to be fixed with gdm 2.4.1.4-1mdk from cooker.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3662] [gnome-control-center] Default Screenshot Key feature not working in Gnome

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 3662] [gnome-control-center] Default Screenshot Key feature not working in Gnome

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 3671] [kdebase] The words bug report is translated wrong. It's said insect report in KR.

2003-06-05 Thread [lmontel]
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 Send a bug report on bugs.kde.org please. 
 
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[Cooker] [Bug 3671] [kdebase] The words bug report is translated wrong. It's said insect report in KR.

2003-06-05 Thread [lmontel]
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 Send a bug report on bugs.kde.org please. 
 
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[Cooker] [Bug 2146] [XFree86] The 'print screen' key does not take a snapshot of the desktop

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 3671] [kdebase] The words bug report is translated wrong. It's said insect report in KR.

2003-06-05 Thread [lmontel]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3671


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[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935


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Version|0.7.3-4mdk  |2.1.5-102mdk




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This is a bug in menu translation, not menudrake.. Reassigning.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3662] [gnome-control-center] Default Screenshot Key feature not working in Gnome

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3662


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[Cooker] [Bug 3671] [kdebase] The words bug report is translated wrong. It's said insect report in KR.

2003-06-05 Thread [lmontel]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3671


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[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3935


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[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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[Cooker] [Bug 3935] [menu] Garbage caracters in the menu in CH

2003-06-05 Thread [fcrozat]
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Re: [Cooker] devfsd loops when inserting PCMCIA Flash card in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-05 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Vendredi 06 Juin 2003 03:12, Quel Qun a écrit :
 On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 08:58, Stephane Gourichon wrote:
  Dear members,
 
  This involves devfsd, the PCMCIA subsystem and the Mandrake-specific (I
  believe) tool dynamic, so I chose to write here. Please correct me if
  you think this is the wrong place.

 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1252

 Reported 4 months ago, and many times since. Obviously no one thinks
 it's important enough :(

Same things with USB memory Flash, report directly, in french to Thierry 
Vignaud (devfsd) and F. Lepied (dynamic).

It is important to fix this, computer hang up, and lot of poeple don't know 
how to fix ! Note it is a mandrake specific issue because only mandrake 
update fstab on the fly.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libgtop2-2.0.2-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On 2003-06-04(Wed) 11:30:28 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
  Fred, probably you will want to release libgtop 1.0.14 too? 2.0.2 is
  released because of security problem, and 1.0.14 is the same.
  
  Well, 1.0.14 has still not been released !!

How come... it has been tagged as 1.0.14 in CVS but no tarball uploaded
to GNOME CVS...


  Anyway, I'll grab the security fix from our security updates..
 
 Just checked, all security fixes are already in 1.0.13-4mdk...

I checked again, that particular fix is not in 1.0.13-4mdk. The fix is
applied on May 12th. Attached with this mail.

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--- libgtop.0509/ChangeLog  2002-12-11 21:07:50.0 +0800
+++ libgtop/ChangeLog   2003-05-12 06:23:47.0 +0800
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+2003-05-11  Andrew Sobala  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+
+   * up version to 1.0.14
+
 2002-12-11  Stanislav Brabec  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
* sysdeps/guile/Makefile.am, sysdeps/guile/names/Makefile.am:
diff -ur --exclude=CVS --exclude=po libgtop.0509/LIBGTOP-VERSION 
libgtop/LIBGTOP-VERSION
--- libgtop.0509/LIBGTOP-VERSION2001-11-27 06:36:18.0 +0800
+++ libgtop/LIBGTOP-VERSION 2003-05-12 06:23:47.0 +0800
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 #
 LIBGTOP_MAJOR_VERSION=1
 LIBGTOP_MINOR_VERSION=0
-LIBGTOP_MICRO_VERSION=13
+LIBGTOP_MICRO_VERSION=14
 
 LIBGTOP_INTERFACE_AGE=12
 LIBGTOP_BINARY_AGE=12
diff -ur --exclude=CVS --exclude=po libgtop.0509/src/daemon/ChangeLog 
libgtop/src/daemon/ChangeLog
--- libgtop.0509/src/daemon/ChangeLog   2001-11-27 06:12:02.0 +0800
+++ libgtop/src/daemon/ChangeLog2003-05-12 06:23:52.0 +0800
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+2003-05-11  Andrew Sobala  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+
+   * gnuserv.c: (permitted): fix buffer overflow vulnerability
+
 2001-11-26  Kevin Vandersloot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
* gnuserv.c: Apply patch fixing security issue from
diff -ur --exclude=CVS --exclude=po libgtop.0509/src/daemon/gnuserv.c 
libgtop/src/daemon/gnuserv.c
--- libgtop.0509/src/daemon/gnuserv.c   2001-11-27 06:12:02.0 +0800
+++ libgtop/src/daemon/gnuserv.c2003-05-12 06:23:52.0 +0800
@@ -200,6 +200,11 @@
 
auth_data_len = atoi (buf);
 
+   if (auth_data_len  1 || auth_data_len  sizeof(buf)) {
+   syslog_message(LOG_WARNING, Invalid data length supplied by client);
+   return FALSE;
+   }
+
if (timed_read (fd, buf, auth_data_len, AUTH_TIMEOUT, 0) != auth_data_len)
return FALSE;
 


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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gedit-2.3.2-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Austin
On 2003.06.04 07:15, Frederic Crozat wrote:
--=-=-=
Name: geditRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.3.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Jun  4 13:04:40
2003
WOO HOO!
Thanks Frederic.  I've been waiting for this one.
Are you planning on packaging the gedit-plugins package, or should I put it in 
contribs myself?

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[Cooker] rescue-guessmounts: Try LVM?

2003-06-05 Thread Brian J. Murrell
Hey folks (and Guillaume),

I was looking at guessmounts in the rescue system and noticed a possible
enhancement: LVM support.

I build my machines with root (as well as everything else but /boot) on
LVM.  It would be nice if guessmounts could figure this out.  Ideally, it
could look at the type of the partitions on the disk(s) and set up LVM
if it finds an LVM typed partition.  But even if guessmounts just fell
back to trying to use LVM if it fails to find a root partition without
LVM would suffice.

When I boot an LVM based system with the rescue, I can run the following
at the command prompt to get my LVM root (and other filesystems) mounted,
so it should not be too difficult to put this into guessmounts:

# modprobe lvm-mod
# mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
# /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/vgscan
# /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/vgchange -a y
# mount /dev/rootvol/root /mnt/disk
# mount /dev/rootvol/usr /mnt/disk/usr
...

Thots?

b.





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gedit-2.3.2-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:38:35 -0400, Austin wrote:

 
 On 2003.06.04 07:15, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 --=-=-=
 Name: geditRelocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 2.3.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Jun  4 13:04:40
 2003
 
 WOO HOO!
 Thanks Frederic.  I've been waiting for this one.
 
 Are you planning on packaging the gedit-plugins package, or should I put it in 
 contribs myself?

I'll do it..

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Re: [Cooker] rescue-guessmounts: Try LVM?

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 Hey folks (and Guillaume),

 I was looking at guessmounts in the rescue system and noticed a possible
 enhancement: LVM support.


I actually mentioned this in another thread, we bumped into this 2 days
ago ...

 I build my machines with root (as well as everything else but /boot) on
 LVM.

We had /root also not on LVM, so we could mount / , but /usr wasn't
available (on lvm).

  It would be nice if guessmounts could figure this out.  Ideally, it
 could look at the type of the partitions on the disk(s) and set up LVM
 if it finds an LVM typed partition.  But even if guessmounts just fell
 back to trying to use LVM if it fails to find a root partition without
 LVM would suffice.


Since DrakX finds LVM ok in upgrades, I think the support just needs to
be added to the rescue image.

 When I boot an LVM based system with the rescue, I can run the following
 at the command prompt to get my LVM root (and other filesystems) mounted,
 so it should not be too difficult to put this into guessmounts:

 # modprobe lvm-mod
 # mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
 # /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/vgscan
 # /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/vgchange -a y

Ahhh, that's where vgscan is! Maybe we could have
/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/ in the path in rescue? I was lucky
we had / not lvm, otherwise I wouldn't have found a vgscan (it wasn't in
the rescue image).

 # mount /dev/rootvol/root /mnt/disk
 # mount /dev/rootvol/usr /mnt/disk/usr
 ...

 Thots?

LVM support in rescue would be cool 

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] urpmi and kde dependencies

2003-06-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 08:10, John Allen wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 07:21, Curtis H wrote:
  urpmi doesn't seem to pull in the correct dependencies for KDE.  I was
  about a week behind cooker, and when updating, I can't install most
  things KDE related.  I've never --force installed anything and don't
  want to start.
 
 
  Installation failed:
  libkdegames.so.1 is needed by (installed) boson-0.8-3mdk
  kdegraphics is needed by (installed) koffice-1.3-0.beta1.2mdk
  scribus = 0.9.9-1mdk is needed by (installed)
  libscribus0-0.9.9-1mdk
 
 
 This means that existing installed applications required older versions of 
 libraries that you are going to update. Upgrade , or remove boson, koffice, 
 and scribus/libscribus.

To me, it means he's trying to use Cooker to update MDK 9.1 to KDE
3.1.2. Which is wrong and not supported and probably won't work, which
is why he's having trouble.
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Re: [Cooker] urpmi and kde dependencies

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 08:10, John Allen wrote:

On Wednesday 04 June 2003 07:21, Curtis H wrote:

urpmi doesn't seem to pull in the correct dependencies for KDE.  I was
about a week behind cooker, and when updating, I can't install most
things KDE related.  I've never --force installed anything and don't
want to start.


Installation failed:
libkdegames.so.1 is needed by (installed) boson-0.8-3mdk
kdegraphics is needed by (installed) koffice-1.3-0.beta1.2mdk
scribus = 0.9.9-1mdk is needed by (installed)
libscribus0-0.9.9-1mdk


This means that existing installed applications required older
versions of
libraries that you are going to update. Upgrade , or remove boson,
koffice,
and scribus/libscribus.


 To me, it means he's trying to use Cooker to update MDK 9.1 to KDE
 3.1.2. Which is wrong and not supported and probably won't work, which
 is why he's having trouble.

Which is why the versions he has installed (and having unresolved deps)
are the latest versions?

$ urpmq -r boson scribus koffice
scribus-i18n-de-0.9.9-1mdk|scribus-0.9.9-1mdk|scribus-i18n-fr-0.9.9-1mdk
koffice-1.3-0.beta1.2mdk
boson-0.8-3mdk

To me, it seems like you're making assumptions, and not giving people
the benefit of the doubt ...

More likely, his mirror is out of sync.

Finally, since using 'urpmi --auto-select' to upgrade from one release
(ie 9.0) to another (ie 9.1) is supposed to be supported, so should
'urpmi --auto-select' be supported for upgrading to cooker (well, as
supported as cooker itself is).

Curtis, I installed boson with no problems:

[bgmilne:]# urpmi boson
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
installed (58 MB):
boson-0.8-3mdk.i586
kdegames-3.1.2-2mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n)

ftp://ftp.cae.co.za/pub/mandrake/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdegames-3.1.2-2mdk.i586.rpm

ftp://ftp.cae.co.za/pub/mandrake/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/boson-0.8-3mdk.i586.rpm
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegames-3.1.2-2mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/boson-0.8-3mdk.i586.rpm

Preparing...
##
   1:kdegames
##
   2:boson
##

You may want to try urpmi'ing individual packages that cause problems,
like kdegraphics and kdegames in this case. I think it is likely however
that your mirror has updated kdelibs, but not kdegraphics and kdegames.

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[Cooker] du -b doesn't work correctly

2003-06-05 Thread andre
If i make a file with
$dd if=/dev/zero of=test count=1 seek=1

than 
$du test 
4   test

which is the correct answer. But if i do
$du -b test
5120512 test

Which isn't the correct answer. It should be like
$/oldMandrake/usr/bin/du -b test 
4096test




Re: [Cooker] du -b doesn't work correctly

2003-06-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Mittwoch,  4. Juni 2003, 16:42:26 Uhr MET, schrieb andre:
 If i make a file with
 $dd if=/dev/zero of=test count=1 seek=1
 
 than 
 $du test 
 4   test
 
 which is the correct answer. But if i do
 $du -b test
 5120512 test

No, that's the right behaviour. 
From du.1:
   -b, --bytes
  equivalent to `--apparent-size --block-size=1'

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[Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
Ok, I'm about ready to start kicking ass over this - ifplugd just totally 
farked up our network on a bunch of machines when I had to recycle power on 
our switch - what mayhem.

What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP - and even worse why can't I 
just remove ifplugd package? I see there's a conditional in 
initscripts/network for ifplugd to have it check for it - why can't I just 
remove with ifplugd without breaking dependancies?

This really is a stupid setup, and what a pain in the ass it just caused. 
Paint that package brown and stick peanuts and corn to it, put it on contrib 
or something don't make it a default install.

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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk neveron a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Straight wrote:
 Ok, I'm about ready to start kicking ass over this - ifplugd just totally
 farked up our network on a bunch of machines when I had to recycle
power on
 our switch - what mayhem.


So your DHCP server can't handle multiple requests? If your network
can't handle DHCP, use static assignments.

 What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP

All versions of windows after 2000 Pro do it, including all versions of
Windows 2000 server.

 - and even worse why can't I
 just remove ifplugd package? I see there's a conditional in
 initscripts/network for ifplugd to have it check for it - why can't I
just
 remove with ifplugd without breaking dependancies?

You can just run drakconnect and uncheck network hotplugging.


 This really is a stupid setup, and what a pain in the ass it just caused.
 Paint that package brown and stick peanuts and corn to it, put it on
contrib
 or something don't make it a default install.


So what about laptop users? Must they know about contrib before they can
 get a semi-functional network setup?

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gnome-network-1.99.0-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Mittwoch,  4. Juni 2003, 17:15:38 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat:
 Description :
 GNOME network programs.
 
 GNOME is the GNU Network Object Model Environment. That's a fancy name but
 really GNOME is a nice GUI desktop environment. It makes using your computer
 easy, powerful, and easy to configure.

This could need a better description. Could anyone of the native
english speakers please suggest one? 
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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
 What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP - and even worse why can't
And what's your problem with gay people ?
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Re: [Cooker] du -b doesn't work correctly

2003-06-05 Thread andre
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 16:55, Götz Waschk wrote:
 Am Mittwoch,  4. Juni 2003, 16:42:26 Uhr MET, schrieb andre:
  If i make a file with
  $dd if=/dev/zero of=test count=1 seek=1
 
  than
  $du test
  4   test
 
  which is the correct answer. But if i do
  $du -b test
  5120512 test

 No, that's the right behaviour.
 From du.1:
-b, --bytes
   equivalent to `--apparent-size --block-size=1'

Than this behaviour has changed recently. My man page still says 
 -b, --bytes
  {--bytes} druk grootte af in bytes




Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:38 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
 Jason Straight wrote:
  Ok, I'm about ready to start kicking ass over this - ifplugd just totally
  farked up our network on a bunch of machines when I had to recycle

 power on

  our switch - what mayhem.

 So your DHCP server can't handle multiple requests? If your network
 can't handle DHCP, use static assignments.

Has nothing to do with DHCP, I don't use dhcp-client for servers, these are 
machines with static settings and some with special routes that get added 
with ip route, and proxy arp gets turned on. That stuff doesn't get restarted 
by ifplugd when it decides to restart my ethernet devs.

  What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP

 All versions of windows after 2000 Pro do it, including all versions of
 Windows 2000 server.

Yeah, but that doesn't make it suck less. :)

  - and even worse why can't I
  just remove ifplugd package? I see there's a conditional in
  initscripts/network for ifplugd to have it check for it - why can't I

 just

  remove with ifplugd without breaking dependancies?

 You can just run drakconnect and uncheck network hotplugging.

Thank you - I just rm'ed ifplugd - was fasts fix, since I didn't feel like 
bringing down a network of 4000 again to remove ifplug, I'll just wait till 
the next reboot.

  This really is a stupid setup, and what a pain in the ass it just caused.
  Paint that package brown and stick peanuts and corn to it, put it on

 contrib

  or something don't make it a default install.

 So what about laptop users? Must they know about contrib before they can
  get a semi-functional network setup?

How does not having ifplug make may laptop not work? I've been running 
mandrake on my laptop for years without ifplug without a problem. I mostly 
use wireless though and hardly ever boot up with a working eth0 so I didn't 
notice this behaviour of ifplugd before.


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RE: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Leif Sawyer
Guillaume Rousse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escrit:
 Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
  What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP - and even 
  worse why can't
 And what's your problem with gay people ?

Or happy people?

I think he likes it.. 'what a happy idea to try to turn..' etc..


Jason, please, refrain from inferred vulgarities that may not carry over
on an international list.  Be concise and clear.  If you have opinions
about the behavior of the software, try using constructive criticisms.
It will make this a much nicer place to work in.

Leif


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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:36 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
 Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
  What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP - and even worse why
  can't

 And what's your problem with gay people ?

None really - I guess I used the word out of context. It was the first word 
that came to mind :P If you don't like it stop being so gay! heheh

I don't have a problem with gay people, just gay features :)


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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gnome-network-1.99.0-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On 2003-06-04(Wed) 17:23:13 +0200, Gtz Waschk wrote:
  Description :
  GNOME network programs.
  
  GNOME is the GNU Network Object Model Environment. That's a fancy name but
  really GNOME is a nice GUI desktop environment. It makes using your computer
  easy, powerful, and easy to configure.
 
 This could need a better description. Could anyone of the native
 english speakers please suggest one? 

You can take a better description from the announcement:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2003-June/msg8.html

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RE: [Cooker] rescue-guessmounts: Try LVM?

2003-06-05 Thread Leif Sawyer
Buchan Milne responded to:
 Brian J. Murrell, whom wrote:
  Hey folks (and Guillaume),
 
  I was looking at guessmounts in the rescue system and 
  noticed a possible enhancement: LVM support.

 LVM support in rescue would be cool 

I second the request for LVM support in rescue.

I recently had to jump through major hoops in order
to recover my boot sector because of the lack of LVM
in the rescue.. (and I wish I had seen Buchan's post, it
  would have saved me time!)


My thoughts are that if we support X filesystem during install,
we should also support it in the rescue image. And as 
automatically as possible.


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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:36 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
  Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
   What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP - and even worse why
   can't
 
  And what's your problem with gay people ?

 None really - I guess I used the word out of context. It was the first word
 that came to mind :P If you don't like it stop being so gay! heheh

 I don't have a problem with gay people, just gay features :)
It is still clearly homophobic to use gay in a deprecative sense...
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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
Yeah, I agree, and I appologize to everyone. I was just super [EMAIL PROTECTED] off 2 
seconds after I got the machines all back to running with phones ringing off 
the hook, of course I had to get to physical access on 2 of them to fix 
stuff. So I was very unhappy at such a feature being default, which really 
takes away from the Mandrake on servers experience. What a surprize which we 
normally don't run into.

My question is this - sure it's nice to have laptop users with ifplug ( I 
guess) but if that's the reasoning behind it - how many more people run it on 
desktops? Let laptop users choose to turn it on - not be default.



On Wednesday 04 June 2003 12:03 pm, Leif Sawyer wrote:
 Guillaume Rousse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escrit:
  Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
   What a gay idea to try to turn mandrake into XP - and even
   worse why can't
 
  And what's your problem with gay people ?

 Or happy people?

 I think he likes it.. 'what a happy idea to try to turn..' etc..


 Jason, please, refrain from inferred vulgarities that may not carry over
 on an international list.  Be concise and clear.  If you have opinions
 about the behavior of the software, try using constructive criticisms.
 It will make this a much nicer place to work in.

 Leif

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Re: [Cooker] perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Serge Plüss

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 06:20, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1

 urpmi -v --auto-select --media cooker snipped

 Installation failed:
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi gaim
 Everything already installed
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi perl-base
 To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
 installed (20 MB):
 perl-5.8.0-24mdk.i586
 perl-base-5.8.0-24mdk.i586
 perl-devel-5.8.0-24mdk.i586
 Is this OK? (Y/n) y
 The following packages have bad signatures:
 /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 /RPMS/perl-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
 /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 /RPMS/perl-devel-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
 /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 /RPMS/perl-base-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
 Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
 installing
 /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 /RPMS/perl-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
 /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 /RPMS/perl-devel-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
 /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 /RPMS/perl-base-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm

 Installation failed:
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa|grep perl-base
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Hi

as for the third day in a row this is still happening for urpmi --auto-select 
--auto. Last successful update I was able to do was last friday:

Installation failed:
perl = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) mod_perl-common-1.3.27_1.27-7mdk
perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk

Serge




Re: [Cooker] perl(the) MySQL-client-4.0.13-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 3 juni 2003 21.29 skrev R.I.P. Deaddog:
 On 2003-06-03(Tue) 21:09:31 +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:
  I think I've found what is triggering /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req to think a
  perl(the) module is needed..., and the answer is use the.
 
  rpm -qp --qf [%{requirename}\n] MySQL-client-4.0.13-1mdk.i586.rpm |
  grep the perl(the)
 
  grep use the /usr/bin/mysqlaccess
  use the option --old_server.
  #When matching, use the first found match.
 
 
  I tried this hack but it didn't work:

 Yup, probably you're true; the regex matching of use . is not
 perfect. Can you try the attached patch on perl.req, and check perl dep
 again?

No I can't if not installing cooker to be root.

Have you tried this and it worked on cooker?

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[Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down.

Why is ifplugd default?

If it's for laptop users who switch network locations:

1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on desktops?
2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for 
them? I mean how often does someone really travel to another location with 
another network and not reboot and restart?
3. Most people who roam around and hotplug network would be on wireless, which 
takes care of that in it's own configuration (pcmcia), not ifplugd.

I just don't understand who would want ifplugd? It's a dangerous thing that 
caused problems on machines that I would never have put a utility like that 
on, but I didn't know and didn't have any warning.



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[Cooker] Services Dependences

2003-06-05 Thread Pierre Jarillon
If portmap is not setup at boot and this services enabled :
netfs, nfs, nfslock the boot hangs indefinitly.

Happily, CD1 in rescue mode allows to repair it.
But this is very difficult for a beginner :
- Boot with allowing boot on CD
- F1, rescue, mount on mnt, console, keyboard fr, cd /mnt/etc/init.d
- vi netfs, nfs, nfslock
- insertion of  exit 1 at the beginning of each file.
- reboot  with disabling boot on CD
- vi netfs, nfs, nfslock to remove exit 1
- use of DrakXServices to disable netfs, nfs, nfslock at boot.

There two ways to avoid this lock :
- DrakXServices : check the daemons launched at boot after pressing OK.
- /etc/init.d/*  check the presence of required daemons
Both of them ?

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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk neveron a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Straight wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:38 am, Buchan Milne wrote:

 Has nothing to do with DHCP, I don't use dhcp-client for servers,
these are
 machines with static settings and some with special routes that get added
 with ip route, and proxy arp gets turned on. That stuff doesn't get
restarted
 by ifplugd when it decides to restart my ethernet devs.


Well, it should ... AFAIK ifplugd should use ifup interface, so if
your static routes are set in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/interface.route, they should be added
for you. Proxyarp and anything else should be done via
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if{up,down}.d/*

If you had configured it some way, you had an accident waiting to happen
 without ifplugd.

or something don't make it a default install.

So what about laptop users? Must they know about contrib before they can
 get a semi-functional network setup?


 How does not having ifplug make may laptop not work? I've been running
 mandrake on my laptop for years without ifplug without a problem.

So, if we start rolling out Mandrake laptops to users (we have one which
we are trialling at present), since the machines are shared, we don't
give anyone root (we could set up sudo to allow the users to restart the
network, but is this really convenient?), we have to be able to have
them network the machine without a RHCE. On the windows machines, they
can plug in a cross-over cable to their buddy from the company we are
working with, and copy files. How are they going to figure out they need
to restart the network to do this?

That's what ifplugd is for.

 I mostly
 use wireless though and hardly ever boot up with a working eth0 so I
didn't
 notice this behaviour of ifplugd before.

Wireless is still too expensive in this country, so I haven't had a
chance to play much ...

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Services Dependences

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Pierre Jarillon wrote:
 If portmap is not setup at boot and this services enabled :
 netfs, nfs, nfslock the boot hangs indefinitly.

 Happily, CD1 in rescue mode allows to repair it.
 But this is very difficult for a beginner :
 - Boot with allowing boot on CD
 - F1, rescue, mount on mnt, console, keyboard fr, cd /mnt/etc/init.d
 - vi netfs, nfs, nfslock
 - insertion of  exit 1 at the beginning of each file.
 - reboot  with disabling boot on CD
 - vi netfs, nfs, nfslock to remove exit 1
 - use of DrakXServices to disable netfs, nfs, nfslock at boot.


Or
- -reboot
- -hit ESC at lilo prompt and type 'linux 1' (you may have to supply root
password at some stage)
- -type 'chkconfig netfs off;chkconfig nfs off;chkconfig nfslock off'
- -#init 5


 There two ways to avoid this lock :
 - DrakXServices : check the daemons launched at boot after pressing OK.
 - /etc/init.d/*  check the presence of required daemons
 Both of them ?


replace init with a better system, such as serel, which knows which
services are required by other services. As a bonus, it can boot the
machine faster, since it can now (with a knowledge of dependencies)
start services in parallel.

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Serge Plüss wrote:

 as for the third day in a row this is still happening for urpmi
- --auto-select
 --auto. Last successful update I was able to do was last friday:

 Installation failed:
 perl = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed)
mod_perl-common-1.3.27_1.27-7mdk
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk

# urpme gaim mod_perl-common --auto
# urpmi perl
# urpmi gaim mod_perl-common

Some wierd issue no-one has found the cause of ..

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[Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install

2003-06-05 Thread Nelson Bartley
Heyo,

Not sure if this issue has been addressed, however over the last 2 days
I have been attempting to perform an HD install of cooker, with little
success. It appears that every time the installer is fired up, and
commences package instalation it errors on ldconfig-2.3.2-3mdk.i586.rpm,
and according to the text screens in the installer it just returns bad
package.

Now the wierd thing is I can install a 9.1 install, then install that
same package into the 9.1 w/o any troubles what soever.

Has anyone else noticed this issue? I have delete the file twice,
resync'd from sunet.se, however I cannot complete an install without
this package.

Thanks,

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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Straight wrote:
 Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down.

 Why is ifplugd default?

 If it's for laptop users who switch network locations:

 1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on desktops?

Let's drop SCSI support while we're at it? What about firewire (I mean,
how many desktops ship with firewire ports compared to laptops) and
support for LCD panels?

 2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for
 them?

Users (ie not admins).

 I mean how often does someone really travel to another location with
 another network and not reboot and restart?

Every time they us a cross-over cable to transfer something.

Do you really think I want to tell our director over an international
cellphone call how to restart the network and/or configure routes to
transfer files to a windows machine which has now auto-configured itself?

 3. Most people who roam around and hotplug network would be on
wireless, which
 takes care of that in it's own configuration (pcmcia), not ifplugd.


For PCMCIA users, it is not too much of a problem, if you're prepared to
tell them to pop the card every time they plug into a different network
(ie cross-over cable), but for on-board ethernet cards that's not possible.

 I just don't understand who would want ifplugd? It's a dangerous thing
that
 caused problems on machines that I would never have put a utility like
that
 on, but I didn't know and didn't have any warning.

It's not dangerous, it only highilghted the dangers you had in your
network (ifdown eth0  ifup eth0 would have killed your network in the
same way ...).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:37 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
 Well, it should ... AFAIK ifplugd should use ifup interface, so if
 your static routes are set in
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/interface.route, they should be added
 for you. Proxyarp and anything else should be done via
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if{up,down}.d/*

 If you had configured it some way, you had an accident waiting to happen
  without ifplugd.

Actually ifplugd turned out to be the accidednt waiting to happen. I have 
rc.local setup with the sysctl since the sysctl.conf never seems to work 
right on that - I think it must do that before ifup, so the devs aren't there 
to configure.

On 2 of the machines they have special routing which is added by a separate 
script I wrote also run from rc.local. Actual routing tables for different 
networks and load balancing using iproute2 utils.
:(

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RE: [Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install

2003-06-05 Thread Gerald Drouillard
This issue has been talked about on the list but it doesn't appear that the
maintainer of the package is listening.  A workaround is to do a minimal 9.1
install then upgrade to cooker.


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nelson Bartley
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install


 Heyo,

 Not sure if this issue has been addressed, however over the last 2 days
 I have been attempting to perform an HD install of cooker, with little
 success. It appears that every time the installer is fired up, and
 commences package instalation it errors on ldconfig-2.3.2-3mdk.i586.rpm,
 and according to the text screens in the installer it just returns bad
 package.

 Now the wierd thing is I can install a 9.1 install, then install that
 same package into the 9.1 w/o any troubles what soever.

 Has anyone else noticed this issue? I have delete the file twice,
 resync'd from sunet.se, however I cannot complete an install without
 this package.

 Thanks,

 --
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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
 Jason Straight wrote:
  Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down.
 
  Why is ifplugd default?
 
  If it's for laptop users who switch network locations:
 
  1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on desktops?

 Let's drop SCSI support while we're at it? What about firewire (I mean,
 how many desktops ship with firewire ports compared to laptops) and
 support for LCD panels?

I'm not saying drop it - but why (by default) configure mdk install for 
laptops? If that's the case why not have APM configured to suspend after 10 
mins of inactivity? Or configure the system to only flush buffers to HD every 
2 hrs to save battery?

I use a laptop - I don't use ifplugd.

  2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for
  them?

 Users (ie not admins).

  I mean how often does someone really travel to another location with
  another network and not reboot and restart?

 Every time they us a cross-over cable to transfer something.

That happens more often than using mdk on desktops?

 Do you really think I want to tell our director over an international
 cellphone call how to restart the network and/or configure routes to
 transfer files to a windows machine which has now auto-configured itself?

ifplugd is only going to restart ethX with the config in the ifup script, so 
it's going to come back up the same way anyway - so if it's DHCP it's not 
that hard to have him run dhclient to renew.

  3. Most people who roam around and hotplug network would be on

 wireless, which

  takes care of that in it's own configuration (pcmcia), not ifplugd.

 For PCMCIA users, it is not too much of a problem, if you're prepared to
 tell them to pop the card every time they plug into a different network
 (ie cross-over cable), but for on-board ethernet cards that's not possible.

  I just don't understand who would want ifplugd? It's a dangerous thing

 that

  caused problems on machines that I would never have put a utility like

 that

  on, but I didn't know and didn't have any warning.

 It's not dangerous, it only highilghted the dangers you had in your
 network (ifdown eth0  ifup eth0 would have killed your network in the
 same way ...).

Yeah, but I would have done that manually and would expect it - I didn't 
expect 3 machines to die when I restarted the switch and not come back up 
with the routes and arp config the way I left them. Automation like that is 
anal. I have problems with XP disabling the wireless clients sometimes 
because of the hotplug detect network connection it has. I wish it would just 
leave them alone - if I configure something my way I don't expect some 
program to go and take the liberty of changing it for what it thinks I want.


 Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 18:42, Buchan Milne wrote:
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 Jason Straight wrote:
  Ok, now that I've taken time to collect myself and calm the fsck down.
 
  Why is ifplugd default?
 
  If it's for laptop users who switch network locations:
 
  1. Why build the distro for laptops when more use it on desktops?
 
 Let's drop SCSI support while we're at it? What about firewire (I mean,
 how many desktops ship with firewire ports compared to laptops) and
 support for LCD panels?

snip rest of Buchan's good reasons

Doesn't ifplugd also solve the problem some saw where, if they happened
to be disconnected from the network for some reason, it would sit there
on boot trying to get an IP address for five minutes? ISTR that's one of
its functions, anyway.
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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Straight
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:06 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
 Doesn't ifplugd also solve the problem some saw where, if they happened
 to be disconnected from the network for some reason, it would sit there
 on boot trying to get an IP address for five minutes? ISTR that's one of
 its functions, anyway.

If that's true I digress. I must say I hate waiting for dhcp to timeout to get 
a useable system when I've used it in the past. ifplugd is ok by me if that 
alone is true :)

Perhaps during install asking if the system will be used as a server it should 
not have ifplugd?


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RE: [Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install

2003-06-05 Thread Nelson Bartley
Excellent. Many thanks for your assistance (my find doesn't seem to be
working in evolution right now :( )

Nelson

On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 13:50, Gerald Drouillard wrote:
 This issue has been talked about on the list but it doesn't appear that the
 maintainer of the package is listening.  A workaround is to do a minimal 9.1
 install then upgrade to cooker.
 
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nelson Bartley
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:27 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Cooker] ldconfig package on hd install
 
 
  Heyo,
 
  Not sure if this issue has been addressed, however over the last 2 days
  I have been attempting to perform an HD install of cooker, with little
  success. It appears that every time the installer is fired up, and
  commences package instalation it errors on ldconfig-2.3.2-3mdk.i586.rpm,
  and according to the text screens in the installer it just returns bad
  package.
 
  Now the wierd thing is I can install a 9.1 install, then install that
  same package into the 9.1 w/o any troubles what soever.
 
  Has anyone else noticed this issue? I have delete the file twice,
  resync'd from sunet.se, however I cannot complete an install without
  this package.
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Straight wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for
them?

Users (ie not admins).


I mean how often does someone really travel to another location with
another network and not reboot and restart?

Every time they us a cross-over cable to transfer something.

 That happens more often than using mdk on desktops?


Since it is done with many of the desktops (most users only have one
network point near them, if they want to transfer files to a laptop,
they use the cross-over cable). So, using a crossover cable between two
machines is much more common than using mdk on desktops, and not having
it working on mdk desktops could kill our plans ...


Do you really think I want to tell our director over an international
cellphone call how to restart the network and/or configure routes to
transfer files to a windows machine which has now auto-configured itself?


 ifplugd is only going to restart ethX with the config in the ifup
script, so
 it's going to come back up the same way anyway - so if it's DHCP it's not
 that hard to have him run dhclient to renew.


And it's also not difficult to compile a kernel, if you know how ...

It's not dangerous, it only highilghted the dangers you had in your
network (ifdown eth0  ifup eth0 would have killed your network in the
same way ...).


 Yeah, but I would have done that manually and would expect it

You would still be vulnerable ...

 - I didn't
 expect 3 machines to die when I restarted the switch and not come back up
 with the routes and arp config the way I left them. Automation like
that is
 anal. I have problems with XP disabling the wireless clients sometimes
 because of the hotplug detect network connection it has. I wish it
would just
 leave them alone - if I configure something my way I don't expect some
 program to go and take the liberty of changing it for what it thinks I
want.

Well, AFAIK, you can't even disable this on Windows, and you can easily
on Mandrake.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk neveron a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Straight wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:37 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:

 Actually ifplugd turned out to be the accidednt waiting to happen. I have
 rc.local setup with the sysctl since the sysctl.conf never seems to work
 right on that - I think it must do that before ifup, so the devs
aren't there
 to configure.


Really, if you need to do anything in rc.local, you need to consider
whether this is robust enough, especially with networking, where
provisions are made for ensuring that you can do it right easily (see
/usr/share/doc/inistscrpts*/sysconfig.txt

You are assuming that network devices will only be started at boot ...
so I hope you have this documented in case someone else needs to take an
interface down ...

 On 2 of the machines they have special routing which is added by a
separate
 script I wrote also run from rc.local. Actual routing tables for
different
 networks and load balancing using iproute2 utils.
 :(


Since we have an MNF, which also restarts interfaces on occasion when
you do certain things from the UI, and we have static routes, we learnt
to do it the right way ...

Anyway, what really needs to happen is to have config tools which can do
this kind of thing for you, preferably also usable on the console. Maybe
libconf will help here (the UI I have seen so far for network stuff
covers quite a lot of aspects already).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant, gibberish,out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Straight wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:06 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:

 Perhaps during install asking if the system will be used as a server
it should
 not have ifplugd?

Well, it is there in the network config dialog if you run it in expert
mode, you may have to run it again from the summary screen to get to it
though (my drakx screenshots for 9.1 aren't handy now).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Services Dependences

2003-06-05 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 19:45, Buchan Milne a écrit :

 replace init with a better system, such as serel, which knows which
 services are required by other services. As a bonus, it can boot the
 machine faster, since it can now (with a knowledge of dependencies)
 start services in parallel.

Fine ! I like it : http://www.fastboot.org/

When in cooker ?

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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Brook Humphrey
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On Wednesday 04 June 2003 10:37, Buchan Milne wrote:
 Wireless is still too expensive in this country, so I haven't had a
 chance to play much ...

 Buchan

Well it really is here also. It's not something everybody has only a few 
people on the high end of things have or use it.

I'm in the usa and not south africa by the way. That is if  I remembered were 
you are at correctly.

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Re: [Cooker] Services Dependences

2003-06-05 Thread Buchan Milne
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Pierre Jarillon wrote:
 Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 19:45, Buchan Milne a écrit :


replace init with a better system, such as serel, which knows which
services are required by other services. As a bonus, it can boot the
machine faster, since it can now (with a knowledge of dependencies)
start services in parallel.


 Fine ! I like it : http://www.fastboot.org/

 When in cooker ?


I'll take a look, and see if we can try a package in contrib, it
shouldn't be too difficult ... (if a bit dangerous patching /etc/rc.d/rc
in %post).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] why have ifplugd default? (Was super-rant,gibberish, out-of-line, spontanious - sorry ;)

2003-06-05 Thread Brook Humphrey
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On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:02, Jason Straight wrote:
 I'm not saying drop it - but why (by default) configure mdk install for
 laptops? If that's the case why not have APM configured to suspend after 10
 mins of inactivity? Or configure the system to only flush buffers to HD
 every 2 hrs to save battery?

 I use a laptop - I don't use ifp

Look I run small networks here also and I can tell you it's nice if for only 
one reason on servers or well network sharing servers especially. The dsl 
here is usually set up so a whole office can share one connection. Before 
when the dsl or cable service went batty ( which happened on cable more than 
I would even like to talk about) the connection sharing server would 
literally bang away until it restored serveice. When this occurred it would 
degrade every system on the network. I mean every system would almost come to 
a screeching halt. This situation was very bad. With the new setup is it very 
nice and manageable if the service goes down. I like this very much and helps 
to a very great degree over the way it was setup on 8.2 and down. 



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Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on aserver again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Wouter Lagerweij
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 17:38, Buchan Milne wrote:
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 Jason Straight wrote:
  Ok, I'm about ready to start kicking ass over this - ifplugd just totally
  farked up our network on a bunch of machines when I had to recycle
 power on
  our switch - what mayhem.
 
 
 So your DHCP server can't handle multiple requests? If your network
 can't handle DHCP, use static assignments.

The unfriendly tone of the original poster aside, could you enlighten me on this?
I coincidentally had a problem with ifplugd too, today. After restarting
my firewall machine, the eth0 interface (which is connected to the ADSL modem) 
came up without problems, but the eth1 (connected to the internal network) 
came 'up' without any ip address assigned.
The only way to get things back to normal was killing the ifplugd process 
for eth1, and using ifconfig to manually configure it. (I couldn't 
do this until the ifplufd was stopped)

I think this problem started when I tried messing around with setting up 
a DHCP daemon on that machine (read: I know it's my own fault), but I 
disabled the dhcp a while ago, and it 
was not running when the problem occured today. (or: But I don't know what I did wrong)

thanks,

Wouter




Re: [Cooker] find_requires script don't take to statically linked obj

2003-06-05 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
On 2003-06-03(Tue) 10:58:42 +0200, Gtz Waschk wrote:
 it would be nice if the find_requires script would parse the
 dependancies of static libraries, but how to do this? It's easy to
 find out the dependant libs of shared libraries, but AFAIK shared
 libraries only contain information about which symbols are unresolved,
 but no information on where to get that symbols. Has anyone thought

Seems you can obtain dependency info via objdump too:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] lib]$ objdump -p /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so.1 | grep NEEDED
  NEEDED  libmcop.so.1
  NEEDED  libdl.so.2
  NEEDED  libqt-mt.so.3
  NEEDED  libpng.so.3
  NEEDED  libz.so.1
  NEEDED  libXext.so.6
  NEEDED  libX11.so.6
  NEEDED  libSM.so.6
  NEEDED  libICE.so.6
  NEEDED  libpthread.so.0
  NEEDED  libstdc++.so.5
  NEEDED  libm.so.6
  NEEDED  libc.so.6
  NEEDED  libgcc_s.so.1

But objdump -p don't show any dep info about static archives.


 about using the libtool .la files to get the dependant libs? Or maybe
 it would be possible to use the dependany information from the shared
 libraries for static libs, that means if libfoo.so depends on
 libbar.so, does libfoo.a depends on libbar.a? 

I don't know much info about it. 

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[Cooker] [TEST] subscribed again ?

2003-06-05 Thread J.A. Magallon
Ah, my isp was playing and I got banned...

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Re: [Cooker] Services Dependences

2003-06-05 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:47 pm, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
 Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 19:45, Buchan Milne a écrit :
  replace init with a better system, such as serel, which knows which
  services are required by other services. As a bonus, it can boot the
  machine faster, since it can now (with a knowledge of dependencies)
  start services in parallel.

 Fine ! I like it : http://www.fastboot.org/

 When in cooker ?
This looks interesting.  Has anyone on cooker played with it?  

V.




Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread bgmilne
 On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 17:38, Buchan Milne wrote:

 on this? I coincidentally had a problem with ifplugd too, today. After
 restarting my firewall machine, the eth0 interface (which is connected
 to the ADSL modem)  came up without problems, but the eth1 (connected to
 the internal network)  came 'up' without any ip address assigned.

This is the expected behaviour if a machine is configured for dhcp, and no
dhcp server is available, except that normally you would have waited a few
minutes at boot time for eth1 to try and get an IP.

 The only way to get things back to normal was killing the ifplugd
 process  for eth1, and using ifconfig to manually configure it. (I
 couldn't  do this until the ifplufd was stopped)


Alternatively, you could complete your configuration for a static IP, and do:

# ifdown eth1;ifup eht1

I am not sure why ifplugd would not allow you to manually configure with
ifconfig, was there a dhclient request running for eth1 at the time you
had problems?

 I think this problem started when I tried messing around with setting up
  a DHCP daemon on that machine (read: I know it's my own fault), but I
 disabled the dhcp a while ago, and it
 was not running when the problem occured today. (or: But I don't know
 what I did wrong)

If you are not sure where the problem came in, post again, but it would
help to include more detail of your setup, such as your
/etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth* files.

Regards,
Buchan





ifplugd [was: Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd]

2003-06-05 Thread J.A. Magallon

On 06.04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 
 Alternatively, you could complete your configuration for a static IP, and do:
 
 # ifdown eth1;ifup eht1
 
 I am not sure why ifplugd would not allow you to manually configure with
 ifconfig, was there a dhclient request running for eth1 at the time you
 had problems?
 

That is one of the things I don't like of ifplugd. I want my private
interface up even with no cable plugged. I want to have the if up, and
a dhcpd running on it for the moment I plug in anything. And also
netatalk, smb, and ipforwarding.

I configured eth1 with static 10.0.0.1. But ifplugd refuses to up the
interface if there is no cable...

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2003 18:01 schrieb Austin Acton:
 [Contrib-RPM]

 --=-=-=
 Name: tosvcd   Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 0.9   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Jun  4 17:55:38
 2003 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
 klama.mandrake.org Group   : Video Source RPM:
 (none)
 Size: 38635License: GPL
 Packager: Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL : http://muse.seh.de/tosvcd/
 Summary : Makes (super) video CD's from digital video recorder files
 Description :
 ToSVCD takes one or more recorded VDR files and transcodes them to a SVCD
 image file ready for cdrdao to burn.

 - initial package

Austin are you working on packaging vdr ? Or can tosvcd handle DVR-Files too ? 
vdr 1.2.0 was released last sunday in case of interest. Further interesting 
related to this would be kvdr and the plugins of vdr. 

Greets

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed)gaim-0.62-2mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Thibaut Fernagut
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:25:45 -0700
Serge Plüss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Tuesday 03 June 2003 06:20, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  urpmi -v --auto-select --media cooker snipped
 
  Installation failed:
  perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
  perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi gaim
  Everything already installed
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi perl-base
  To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
  installed (20 MB):
  perl-5.8.0-24mdk.i586
  perl-base-5.8.0-24mdk.i586
  perl-devel-5.8.0-24mdk.i586
  Is this OK? (Y/n) y
  The following packages have bad signatures:
  /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  /RPMS/perl-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
  /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  /RPMS/perl-devel-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
  /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  /RPMS/perl-base-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
  Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
  installing
  /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  /RPMS/perl-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
  /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  /RPMS/perl-devel-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
  /var/cooker/mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  /RPMS/perl-base-5.8.0-24mdk.i586.rpm
 
  Installation failed:
  perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
  perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa|grep perl-base
  perl-base-5.8.0-23mdk
 
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
  Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com
 
  iQA/AwUBPtygsPc1NpCTlP0JEQInwQCeNf+A1LPXGA3fOeGRSe8hQASt+SsAnjJk
  ksXhQkEv4RwsbCvD6Iwlb0O1
  =TxRG
  -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 Hi
 
 as for the third day in a row this is still happening for urpmi --auto-select 
 --auto. Last successful update I was able to do was last friday:
 
 Installation failed:
 perl = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) mod_perl-common-1.3.27_1.27-7mdk
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) gaim-0.62-2mdk
 
 Serge
 

And for irssi

Installation failed:
perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) irssi-0.8.6-2mdk


Cheers

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Austin
On 2003.06.04 17:52, Steffen Barszus wrote:
Austin are you working on packaging vdr ? Or can tosvcd handle DVR-Files too
?
vdr 1.2.0 was released last sunday in case of interest. Further interesting
related to this would be kvdr and the plugins of vdr.
Yeah, I thought I uploaded vdr 3.0 this morning.
Did it not show up?
Austin
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   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
 MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
 homepage: www.groundstate.ca


Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Austin
On 2003.06.04 18:24, Austin wrote:
On 2003.06.04 17:52, Steffen Barszus wrote:
Austin are you working on packaging vdr ? Or can tosvcd handle DVR-Files too
Yeah, I thought I uploaded vdr 3.0 this morning.
Sorry... momentary lapse of reason.
I uploaded dvr this morning, not dvr.
I'll do dvr too.
I'm all into video now.
Is it time for a Mandrake Video Workstation HowTo?
:-)
Austin

--
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 Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
 MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
 homepage: www.groundstate.ca


Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Austin
On 2003.06.04 18:26, Austin wrote:
Sorry... momentary lapse of reason.
I uploaded dvr this morning, not dvr.
I'll do dvr too.
Jeez, I even screwed that up.
It's been a long day. :-p
Austin

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 Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
 MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
 homepage: www.groundstate.ca


Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
Quoting Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 On 2003.06.04 18:24, Austin wrote:
  
  On 2003.06.04 17:52, Steffen Barszus wrote:
  Austin are you working on packaging vdr ? Or can tosvcd handle
 DVR-Files too
  
  Yeah, I thought I uploaded vdr 3.0 this morning.
 
 Sorry... momentary lapse of reason.
 I uploaded dvr this morning, not dvr.
 
 I'll do dvr too.
 I'm all into video now.
 
 Is it time for a Mandrake Video Workstation HowTo?
 :-)
 
What about  MythTV ---  http://www.mythtv.org/

do you plan to package it ?

svetljo



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2003 00:29 schrieb Austin:
 On 2003.06.04 18:26, Austin wrote:
  Sorry... momentary lapse of reason.
  I uploaded dvr this morning, not dvr.
 
  I'll do dvr too.

 Jeez, I even screwed that up.
 It's been a long day. :-p

 Austin

*grin* take some sleep ;)

Will definitly have a look at it and how you solved some things, since i have 
vdr 1.2.0 since the first developer versions running ( 1.1.8) I even thought 
about packaging it, but it needs a runlevelscript or a rewritten startscript 
or the dvb-modules outside the kernel, so i avoided to do so unless i have 
written sth. ;)

Regards

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2003 00:26 schrieb Austin:

 I'll do dvr too.
 I'm all into video now.

 Is it time for a Mandrake Video Workstation HowTo?

 :-)

 Austin

Some of these may be interesting too:

http://www.cadsoft.de/vdr/plugins.htm

for the mplayer-plugin there exists a very good custom mplayer.sh

- vdr2dvd -skript
- vdr2divx script

Yeah a video HowTo would be nice ;) alltough there aren't that special nneds 
for it beside fat harddiscs, for conversion big CPUs and for settop box use, 
a really silent machine. I have vdr running here on a 1100 Mhz Duron, but a 
far slower machine would be possible too (f.i. epia 800 down too pentium 
200MMX). 

Video conversion is another topic and more complex. 

So maybe a mandrake settop box HowTo with vdr/dvr/mythtv/... as topic ;)

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tosvcd-0.9-1mdk

2003-06-05 Thread Austin
On 2003.06.04 18:52, Steffen Barszus wrote:
Will definitly have a look at it and how you solved some things, since i have
vdr 1.2.0 since the first developer versions running ( 1.1.8) I even thought
about packaging it, but it needs a runlevelscript or a rewritten startscript
or the dvb-modules outside the kernel, so i avoided to do so unless i have
written sth. ;)
Erg.  Sorry... I am very confusable today.

I have no plans or desires to package video disk recorder (vdr).
I have already packaged digital video recorder (dvr).
Hope that clears everything up.

In the future I will think before I type.  :-)

Austin

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 Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
 MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
 homepage: www.groundstate.ca


[Cooker] promise fasttrak100 TX2 raid controler

2003-06-05 Thread Thibaut Fernagut
Yo,

I have that raid controler. MDK 8.0 - 9.1 works.
Cooker seem to fail. Using a ext2 floppy with the driver installs mdk , but after 
running lilo .. renooting .. it can't find any HD . 

I suggest adding that driver to the scsi/raid  list 


source : 

http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=8category=driveros=4

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Re: [Cooker] fyi kernel / install cd people re: toshiba laptop

2003-06-05 Thread allen

re: Toshiba 2435-S255

dmesg and lspcidrake output attached as requested.

Reminder, I cannot run at all with any install cd or kernel that
gets installed thereby.

This output is from k2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom, lots and lots of stuff
turned off.

This is a kernel that boots, Realtek NIC and NVidia GForce 4 420
working fine.  This is not the kernel build that I will eventually end up with 
given more time to tinker and get all possible devices working.

I'm not sure if you wanted the attached as is or wait 'till I've tinkered
everything into humming right along.

?

THX
-AEF

On Wednesday 04 June 2003 02:29 am, Thomas Backlund wrote:
 Viestissä Keskiviikko 4. Kesäkuuta 2003 02:39, allen kirjoitti:
 We need the output of dmesg and lspcidrake (as root):
 so please do:
  cat /var/log/dmesg dmesg.out
  lspcidrake -v lspcidrake.out
  bzip2 -z9 *.out
 and attach the *.bz2 files to your next reply...

 Thomas


lspcidrake.out.bz2
Description: BZip2 compressed data


dmesg.out.bz2
Description: BZip2 compressed data


Re: ifplugd [was: Re: [Cooker] request: remove super gay problem causing mdk never on a server again with ifplugd]

2003-06-05 Thread bgmilne
J. A Magallon wrote:

 That is one of the things I don't like of ifplugd. I want my private
 interface up even with no cable plugged. I want to have the if up, and a
 dhcpd running on it for the moment I plug in anything. And also
 netatalk, smb, and ipforwarding.

 I configured eth1 with static 10.0.0.1. But ifplugd refuses to up the
 interface if there is no cable...

Hmmm, that would seem to be a bug in initscripts. ifplugd should not be
used in cases of BOOTPROTO=static.

In the meantime, echo MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1

BTW, quite a few of my interfaces are cards which don't support ifplugd,
including the only one configured for static ... and the one that does
support it is never disconnected (except when I actually tested ifplugd)
;-). All the tests I did with ifplugd were with machines that use DHCP.

Regards,
Buchan






Re: [Cooker] request: remove super ... problem causing mdk never on aserver again with ifplugd

2003-06-05 Thread Jay DeKing
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 12:15 pm, Jason Straight honored me with this 
communique:

 My question is this - sure it's nice to have laptop users with ifplug ( I
 guess) but if that's the reasoning behind it - how many more people run it
 on desktops? Let laptop users choose to turn it on - not be default.


I run ifplugd on my server ... not exactly sure why at the moment. Regardless, 
I have never had any trouble with it. 

My server, which is also my primary machine, is tied to two WinXP machines on 
my home network. Both connect automatically to the server if it is rebooted.

Just my $.02 ...

Jay DeKing

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