[CTRL] 22 Million Members v. AOL: A Class Action Suit?

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 -Cui Bono?-

 " In all, I found AOL had added or altered 229 files on my system,
 including over 4.5MB of Windows system files!  It significantly
 (and unnecessarily) altered my networking setup.  It even diddled
 with Power Management settings in my Registry! "

 .. Did they add stealth logging features to AOL-5 (for Windows)
 to track details of how you use your computer, and send the results
 back to AOL's big-brother database ?  Read the above, one more time.


~~~
 From: "Fred Langa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: [langalist] 17-Jan-00 LangaList


 1) WARNING! The "Upgrade of Death"

 Long-time readers may remember my first experience with AOL 5.0  (when
 I tried to upgrade a system from AOL 4 to AOL 5). I'll spare you the
 details, but after trying every trick I knew to get the system working
 properly after the upgrade, the punchline was "Format C:\"

 I wrote about my unhappy experiences in this newsletter
 (see http://www.langa.com/newsletters/1999/nov-1-99.htm#aol)
 and was amazed at the flood of mail I got in reply from readers
 whose experiences were as bad-- -or even worse!--- than mine.
 (See http://www.langa.com/newsletters/1999/nov- 4-99.htm#aol1)

 With all that, I decided simply to try avoiding AOL, but it's a
 marketing behemoth that just won't quit. Day after day, readers would
 write to me or to the WinMag staff complaining about AOL5.0. Then,
 last week, with the announcement of AOL taking over Time Warner and
 becoming the largest online/content source on the planet, it became
 clear I needed a closer look:

 Because I knew from reader mail and from painful personal experience
 that upgrading from 4.0 to 5.0 often brought major trouble, I decided
 to try a clean install of AOL 5.0.

 It was eye-opening. In all, I found AOL had added or altered 229 files
 on my system, including over 4.5MB of Windows system files!
 It significantly (and unnecessarily) altered my networking setup.
 It even diddled with Power Management settings in my Registry!

 I'll detail everything--- including what files were altered, how you
 can tell what files and settings AOL altered on your machine, which
 kinds of users and systems AOL is good for, and which it's really bad
 for--- in this week's column on the WinMag.Com site. (The full column
 is far too detailed to present in an email, such as this newsletter.)

 In the end, I did get AOL installed and running. If you're even
 thinking about using AOL5.0, please check out the column first:
 It may save you a ton of headaches.

 If you're already using AOL5, then the column will help you determine
 exactly what the software already did to your system.

 And either way, please join in the discussion: Is your AOL experience
 different from mine? Have you found ways around the upgrade hassles?
 What do you think the future will hold as AOL emerges as the biggest
 media company on the planet? Join in the discussion starting in the
 afternoon, EST (gmt-5) TUESDAY (a day later than normal, due to the
 US holiday on Monday) 18-Jan-00 at
 http://www.winmag.com/columns/explorer/

 (Note: if you get there early, you'll see the previous column on
 computing resolutions for the new year---and if you haven't read that
 one, check it out too!)


 ~~~
 From: "Fred Langa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: [langalist] 20-Jan-00 LangaList


 2) "AO Hell" Saga Continues

 In the last issue, I told you about The AOL 5.0 "Upgrade of Death:"
 After performing a clean install on a test system,  I found AOL had
 added or altered 229 files, including over 4.5MB of Windows system
 files! It significantly (and unnecessarily) altered my networking
 setup.

 It even diddled with Power Management settings in my Registry! Some
 readers mistakenly thought that by using the "bring your own access"
 option (where you pay a cut rate for AOL access and use your own ISP
 to connect to AOL) you could avoid the networking hassles I
 encountered.

 Nope.

 AOL appears to install everything, all the time. The "bring your
 own access" option only changes things on AOL's end of the
 connection---how you're billed and how you're allowed into their
 system. It doesn't change anything on your end: You'll still end up
 with your networking and dial-up settings unnecessary diddled with.

 I discuss all this in this week's WinMag column. Some readers tried to
 read the full column and join the week-long discussion at the WinMag
 site a day early this week (Monday was a US holiday)--- but it's up
 and running now:

 In that online column, I detail everything--- including what files
 were altered, how you can tell what files and settings AOL altered on
 your machine, which kinds of users and systems AOL is good for, and
 which it's really bad for.

 Join in! Is your AOL experience different from mine? Have you found
 ways around the upgrade hassles?  What do you think the future will
 hold as AOL emerges as the biggest media company on the planet? The
 discus

[CTRL] Numb ers

[earthman]

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 -Cui Bono?-

This is a couple of posts concerning them numbers again. Fascinating stuff.
Um yeah I will check out the biblical references..Tomorrow.

Peter

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear "earthman,"

This is quite an assortment of information and a great message.

I like the way all the math is brought into play. The no. 74 and 186 yrs.
B.C. - the speed of light?

Please allow me to join in with a few observations: I notice the year 2000
being compared with the Jewish calendar year 5760 and certain mathmatical
formulas being applied to the numbers. And then - there is the use of
gematria - as well. These particular subjects are more than passing interest
to me, especially when applied to the original Hebrew and Greek Bible text.

It was early in 1999, when the discovery and announcement was made
concerning
the existence of a 5000, and 6000 year calendar - each ending in the Jewish
calendar year 5760, which co-incides with Gregorian 2000 C.E. The date and
point of origin beginning with the life of  Adam (4000 B.C.E.).  The
discovery turned into an on-going unveiling, which proved to be
"scientifically" accurate. The calendar is composed of a complete 360 degree
circle divided into 24 numbers i.e.(1 through 24 hours in each day of our
clock and  1-12 and 1-12  = 24 as well). The 24 segments are composed of 240
years and /or 15 degrees each. Thus, 240 years times 24 equals 5760 - the
year Time-Ends!  Showing, therefore that the Jewish year 5760 and the
Gregorian year 2000 are the last year, and that years 5761 and 2001,
respectively,  are indeed the "New - Beginning." This all predicated on
weather or not Adam's date of  geneology is correct i.e. 1-4 yrs., according
to the chronology of  James Ussher (1581 - 1656), and if or not zero years
were taken into consideration.

Some gematria was shown in the message using Greek words for Jesus and
Christ.
Jesus=IESOUS=888; Christ=CHRISTOS=1480; the sum=2368. If the word Lord is
added to the sum - Lord=KURIOS=800, the total value becomes 3168. This
number
3168 is significant because it is the number in miles for a square drawn
around a sphere  whose diameter is 7920mi. (mean dimension of the earth),
deleting the zeros.
The little town of Bethlehem is located at 31degrees 68 minutes N. latitude
(Israel).
The combined dimensions of the moon and earth's circumference measures
31680.
Thus, showing the signature of the creator in the creation, "All things were
made by Him; and without Him was not anything made taht was made." John 1:3

Furthermore, the combined measurements of the earth and moon, compared with
the earth's measurement alone, denotes the marriage of the circle to the
square and also reveals the mystery of the relationship of the number seven
to eleven and the ratio for Pi , i.e. 22/7.

We then come to some interesting calculations, which if one were to know the
interpretation - would surely see a mystery unfolding  - a prophetic message
written in pure mathmatics;  I leave that for here for now, but I want to
comment on the numbers 576(0) and 1152.  It is stated, the number 576, has
the meaning, "Prophecy and Gospel", and the number twice 576,  1152 has the
meaning "Witness". I have found in some sources the number 576 has the
meaning, "Spirit" and "Trumpet" - as well (see the trumpet(s) in the book of
Revelation, the trumpet speaks, and the trumpet is a message). The number
1.152 ft. is an important number, for it is one of the numbers used as a
cubit in the construction of the tabernacle of Moses, called the Egyptian
foot. The Egyptian cubit is 1.728 and utilized as a second and confirming
cubit in the tabernacle's construction. These numbers have esoteric meaning
when combined and placed in context with particular symbolisms. I believe
its
time to listen.

For instance the Ark of the Testomony measures 18x18x30=9720. Now take 9720
and subtract the Jewish year 5760 = 3960 = the Radii of the Earth!  Why has
the Ark's symbolism been hidden, "until" now?

Best regards to one and all - happy hunting

Andrew

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Kathleen and Peter


My knowledge of Tarot is almost nil. But, I believe I have a tid-bit to
share.

There is this wonderful book(let) that a sweet lady from Maryland was "led"
to send me (at no cost to me) a few years back. I dont exactly understand
all
of it, but I do witness (inner-light) to its content. The author T  Byron G
was given a tremendous revelation regarding Tarot's origination and its
occultic (the doctrine and theory of hidden causes - concealed) principles.
The book is titled,  "SYNTHESIS The Hermetic Tarot." In it, he shows how the
Hermetic titles (of cards) co-inside with  Arabic numerals conjoined with
the
Hebrew and Greek letter for number system and the Vulgar titles of today's
Tarot. He shows the Sephiroth (tree of life) annexed to its numerical value
along with the Qabalah, Kabbalah, and Esoteric comparisons. Then he shows
how
the whole picture applies to the 

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] TIMES: One in seven fathers 'not the real parent'

[Amelia K Edgeman]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

Yes, June, this does sound like the latest excuse of some sort of
philanderers.  There was a TV series on The Learning Channel or Discovery
that covered a great deal of this but certainly not the one-in-seven figure.
One of the segments was entitled "The Sperm Wars" and although it was fairly
well produced, much of it was theory. I would have to see a great deal of
documentation on that to believe so many children are conceived in such a
manner.  Guess the mothers' "need to have DNA spread around" would explain
it.  This "need" would certainly work both ways, with women constantly on
the outlook for superior DNA to father their children.  Talk about chaos!
Amelia


- Original Message -
From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] TIMES: One in seven fathers 'not the real parent'


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>
> From: "name AOL USER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Human sexuality and its place in modern society is a fascinating field.
I
> > suggest you read up on it more, to understand the bigger picture.
>
> I have.  Which is why I consider this 'need to spread DNA' bullshit.
>
>
> June
>
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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] TIMES: One in seven fathers 'not the real parent'

[Amelia K Edgeman]

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 -Cui Bono?-

> I saw that series on Human Sexuality on the Learning Channel, too.  I do
not think this 10% rate is from that at all.  I do believe you are combining
more than one source.  And again, these are only theories, not established
scientific facts.  I had a plastic surgeon from Brazil (Dr. Wuoter Euiarte)
tell me that the most common surgery there was "virginity restoration" as a
result of the AIDS epidemic. It is a very warped and twisted world in which
we live.
Amelia

> The 10% illegitimacy rate was from a test done on all babies born in a
> particular hospitala pure blind test, except to the degree the
> economic/social status of the people going to that hospital might affect
> relationships. As I recall it was done 10 or so years ago, and included
> troubled and non-troubled relationships.
>
> The study is, I believe, cited in the book "THE SPERM WARS" which looks at
> the male drive to father children from a supposedly scientific point of
view.
> Also, to address some of your other points:  it has been shown that
so-called
> trophy wives are not the cause of infidelity in MOST cases. Perhaps you've
> got an ax to grind here. But even so, men are drawn to women who 1) are
> fertile and 2) attractive.
> Fertility is mostly a function of age; many wives go through menopause in
> their late thirties.
> Men are ALSO strongly drawn to warm women with good personalities. And I
> suspect that in these modern times of economic abundance, that this is
> probably the dominant determinant...we live longer lives, and survival of
the
> species is not important on an individual level. On a purely biological
> basis, this may be bad for humanity as a whole.
>
> What society (men in particular) deems attractive is somewhat cultural
(big
> breasted women are in favor/out of favor/in favor etc.) Did you know the
most
> common form of plastic surgery in Brazil is breast reduction? Purely a
> regional/cultural phenomenon.
> this.
>
> > Human sexuality and its place in modern society is a fascinating field.
I
> suggest you read up on it more, to understand the bigger picture.
>
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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Armed & Dangerous

[Amelia K Edgeman]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Prudy,
Where I live, helicopters fly over checking for marijuana.  They use the
infra-red cameras that can detect a  single plant.  They fly as low as they
want, anytime they want and anywhere they care to look.  How in heavens
could they not have that many plants pinpointed completely?  These cameras
will pick up one plant even if it is under larger trees, mixed in with other
plants and even through conventional greenhouse material.  There is just no
way they did not have this information as this is not new technology.  I
have watched them flying over scanning for this for over two years now.
Amelia (who seems to know too much about the camera's abilities :)

- Original Message -
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Armed & Dangerous


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> In a message dated 01/24/2000 1:18:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  Although well-liked and generous to friends, Scott drank heavily, could
be
>  cantankerous and deeply mistrusted the government, which he suspected of
>  having designs on this ranch, a remote and nearly inaccessible parcel
with
>  high rocky bluffs on three sides and a 75-foot spring-fed waterfall out
>  back.
>
>  "You know what he used to say," his third wife, Frances Plante, told
writer
>  Michael Fessier Jr. in a 1993 article for the Los Angeles Times magazine,
>  "He'd say, 'Frances, every day they pass a new law and the day after that
>  they pass 40 more.'"
>
>  To Los Angeles County officials, the fact that Don Scott got killed in
his
>  own house during a futile raid to seize a non-existent 4,000-plant
marijuana
>  farm is just one of the unfortunate facts of life in the narcotics
>  enforcement business. It doesn't mean that sheriff's deputies did
anything
>  wrong.
>
>  "Sometimes people get warned and we don't find anything," Gary Spencer,
the
>  lead deputy on the raid and the one who shot Scott, told an L.A. Times
>  reporter in 1997, "so I don't consider it botched. I wouldn't call it
>  botched
>  because that would say that it was a mistake to have gone there in the
first
>  place, and I don't believe that."
>
>  Someone who did believe that was Ventura County District Attorney Michael
>  Bradbury. Although Scott's ranch was in Ventura County, none of the 31
>  people
>  participating in the massive early morning raid, which included officers
>  from
>  the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, the DEA, the National Park Service,
>  the
>  California National Guard and the Border Patrol bothered to invite any
>  Ventura County officers to come along. Furthermore, once Scott was shot,
Los
>  Angeles County tried to claim jurisdiction over the investigation of
Scott's
>  death, even though the shooting occured in Ventura County.
>
>  To Bradbury, it was easy to see why. L.A. County wanted jurisdiction. In
a
>  64-page report issued by Bradbury's office in March of 1993, Bradbury
>  concluded that the search warrant contained numerous misstatements,
evasions
>  and omissions. The purpose of the raid, he wrote, was never to find some
>  evanescent marijuana plantation. It was to seize Scott's ranch under
asset
>  forfeiture laws and then divide the proceeds with participating agencies,
>  such as the National Park Service, which had put Scott's ranch on a list
of
>  property it would one day like to acquire, and the Los Angeles Sheriff's
>  Department, which heavily relied on assets seized in drug raids to
>  supplement
>  its otherwise inadequate budget. >>
>
> I don't really approve of heavy drinking, but it's never been a capital
> offense.  I'm wondering here about the supposed 4,000 pot plant words.
When
> I read and heard about this, the wild-eyed raid by all the government
> agencies that could grab a gun, was because some helicopter pilot said he
saw
> fifty pot plants hanging in a tree.  Such vision.  As for Scott's not
> trusting the government, is someone out there saying he should have?
Don't
> forget, the raiders had already talked with a real estate developer who
> wanted the land, and apparently they were already negotiating a price.
Kind
> of sounds like tax farming to me.
>
> And did they return the millionaire's assets and the land along with the
five
> million?  I'm sure the estate was worth ten times the settlement figure.
> People were taking up collections for the poor widow, because the
government
> grabbed everything and she had no money for the lawyers.  They should give
a
> new name to that area--Nottingham.
>
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> fr

Re: [CTRL] State of the Union speech boycotted by Rep. Schaffer

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 01/24/2000 6:30:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 Schaffer, a Fort Collins Republican, says he doesn't want to extend that
 traditional courtesy to a president he believes has "debased" the White
 House
 and his office.

 "I've been thouroughly convinced that he has occupied the greatest office in
 the land as a prosecutable felon," Schaffer said.

 "And there's also a personal thing at stake here. I lecture my kids to stay
 away from people you can't trust- people who have no respect for other
 humans
 and who would violate a woman for his own sexual gratification." >>

Do we know for sure that Schaffer isn't describing himself?  I notice he
wasn't asked to be speaker.  Seems like they had a hard time filling the
position.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] State of the Union speech boycotted by Rep. Schaffer

[Jen Shaw]

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 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 1/25/2000 6:07:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<<
 In a message dated 01/24/2000 6:30:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 <<
  Schaffer, a Fort Collins Republican, says he doesn't want to extend that
  traditional courtesy to a president he believes has "debased" the White
  House
  and his office.

  "I've been thouroughly convinced that he has occupied the greatest office in
  the land as a prosecutable felon," Schaffer said.

  "And there's also a personal thing at stake here. I lecture my kids to stay
  away from people you can't trust- people who have no respect for other
  humans
  and who would violate a woman for his own sexual gratification." >>

 Do we know for sure that Schaffer isn't describing himself?  I notice he
 wasn't asked to be speaker.  Seems like they had a hard time filling the
 position.  Prudy
  >>
He may or may not be describing himself, but unfortunately it is a perfect
description of our current president.

Jen

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[CTRL] Albright disavows Helms' statement

[Jen Shaw]

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 -Cui Bono?-

January 25, 2000


Albright disavows Helms' statement
By Dafna Linzer
ASSOCIATED PRESS


 NEW YORK — Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright used an appearance
before the U.N. Security Council yesterday to distance herself and the
Clinton administration from the stern denunciation delivered last week by
Sen. Jesse Helms.
 "Let me be clear. Only the president and the executive branch can speak
for the United States. Today, on behalf of the president, let me say that the
Clinton administration and I believe that most Americans see our role in the
world and our relationship to this organization quite differently than does
Senator Helms," Mrs. Albright said.
 Her conciliatory comments so starkly contrasted with those of Mr. Helms
that they drew intermittent chuckles from foreign ambassadors seated around
the Security Council table.
 On Thursday, the North Carolina Republican and chairman of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee savaged the United Nations for its "lack of
gratitude" and warned the international body of a U.S. withdrawal if it
continues "to impose its presumed authority on the American people."
 "They see the U.N. aspiring to establish itself as the central authority
of a new international order of global laws and global governance. This is an
international order the American people will not countenance," Mr. Helms told
the Security Council.
 Mrs. Albright — a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations who
returned yesterday to chair a meeting on peace prospects for Congo — sought
to placate the 15-member Security Council by saying the United States is part
of the United Nations team.
 "We strongly support the United Nations Charter and the organization's
purpose. We respect its rules, which we helped to write. We want to
strengthen it through continued reform and we recognize its many
contributions to our own interest in a more secure, democratic and humane
world."
 The secretary of state also said the United Nations provides a vital
forum for the consideration of matters affecting security and peace.
 Mrs. Albright said the United States believes in "leading with other
nations whenever possible," and that the United Nations was the forum to do
so.
 "We recognize its many contributions to our own interests in a more
secure, democratic and humane world," she said.
 In her disclaimer, Mrs. Albright also described Mr. Helms as "a man of
conviction and a strong advocate of a distinct point of view about the United
Nations and America's relationship to it. He and I have made a point of
working together where we can, and making sure that when we disagree, we do
so agreeably," she said.
 A spokesman for Mr. Helms declined yesterday to comment on Mrs.
Albright's remarks.
 Sen. Rod Grams, chairman of the Foreign Relations subcommittee on
international operations, yesterday said that "Jesse was speaking for Jesse
but also as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee."
 Asked about Mr. Helms' statements last week in New York that many
Americans fear the United Nations might threaten U.S. soverignty, Mr. Grams
said "some do."
 "Articles have been written that conjure up these concerns," he told The
Washington Times.
 "The senator laid out — 'Here's the issue and here's the concern.' If
there's nothing to be concerned about, that's great."
 Mr. Grams said that while Mr. Helms does not speak for the
administration he was "someone who worked out the Helms-Biden bill to get an
agreement with the U.N. to pay the arrears and influence the reforms that we
think are important."
 Mr. Clinton signed that bill.
 While Mrs. Albright's views on foreign policy may differ with those of
Mr. Helms, Mr. Grams said, "Mr. Helms does represent a majority opinion on
the reforms package.
 A day after Mr. Helms spoke at the United Nations, the top Democrat on
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee joined his criticism, saying
fundamental structural changes are inevitable.
 "I know it, you know it, we all know it," Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.,
Delaware Democrat, told Secretary-General Kofi Annan and other top U.N.
officials.
 Mr. Biden said that while he does not share Mr. Helms' conservative
politics, he agrees the United Nations must overhaul its practices.
 "Fundamental changes have to take place. The good news is you're in
charge."
 Despite his words Friday, Mr. Biden said through a spokesman that he
agreed with Mrs. Albright.
 "Mr. Helms articulated his own views," said Chris Madison, spokesman Mr.
Biden. "Only the U.S. president or a member of his administration can speak
officially for the United States."

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# ET: http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/sundance/festival/2123/slc803
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Melting ice caps to trigger a Second Great Flood! HELSINKI, Finland - We
  are just one year away from a flood of Noah's-ark proportions - a flood
  that will destroy every man, woman and child on the entire planet! That's
  the horrifying word from noted physicist Dr. Hannu Ritvos who - along with
  27 other scientists in 16 countries - is urging officials of every nation
  to take preventative action. But his pleas are falling on deaf ears. The
  blind fools!  http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1703.html

# Oceanographer Challenges Plate Tectonics As Reason For Poles' Shift:
  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/01/000125053438.htm
# Aleut Volcano Exploding; So What? http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9277042
# ALIENS BLAMED FOR CAPE DISASTER - laws force landowners to remove aliens:
  http://www.suntimes.co.za/2000/01/23/news/cape/nct02.htm

: What's your favorite Earth-change? Are you ready for a global flood, local
disaster, supernova, infestation of locusts/fleas/realtors? Do the voices in
your head help you prepare? Do they tell you when it will happen? D'ya care?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Family feud clouds future of Aum sect. A bitter family dispute threatens
  the future of the mystic cult responsible for the 1995 sarin gas attack on
  the Tokyo subway system. The feud peaked Friday when the 7-yr-old son of
  Aum Divine Truth's guru, Shoko Asahara, was abducted from a sect compound
  in Ibaraki Prefecture, just north of Tokyo. Police have obtained arrest
  warrants for two of the guru's daughters for being behind the violent
  raid and kidnap. http://www.smh.com.au/news/0001/24/text/world11.html

# Aum cult exec busted. TOKYO (AP) A high-ranking official of the Aum doom-
  sday cult that gassed a Tokyo subway was arrested for threatening bankers
  who refused to open an account for the group, renamed Aleph. He shouted at
  the bankers, threatening to bring political radicals to harass the bank.
  Many Japanese right-wing organizations advertise their political views
  from buses and trucks painted with Rising Sun flags & equipped with boom-
  ing speakers. Such organizations have close ties  with organized crime
  groups. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563596786-140

: Is your sect wracked by internal dispute? Are all sects? What mafias have
you allied with? Does your sect have bank accounts, credit cards, weapons?
Should all sects? Who are the best-armed sects around? How is a well-armed
sect distinguishable from a private army? Do you want to control the world?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ The Round Table Foundation of Electrobiology began to flourish. A consid-
  erable misrepresentation as to cost of equipment is shown. Project Penguin
  undertaken by the Navy is also claimed. A grant from General Foods and the
  activities of associates reveals the connection to The Armed Forces Spec-
  ial Weapons Project. http://www.qedcorp.com/pcr/pcr/test1.html

@ Channeled Idea: MAKING THE CHOICE OF POLARITY. As we consider service to
  others, what is the Choice of polarity; how much do we make consciously,
  how much subconsciously? What really are we doing in a metaphysical sense
  when we make any choice? www.llresearch.org/newsletters/issues/1999_3.htm

: Would you rather be of service to others, or have others in your service?
If you served others, who would you serve them to? Do you use foodstuffs as
special weapons? Are your choices physical, metaphysical, military, mental?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# China Holds Sect Devotees in Looney Bin. BEIJING. More than 50 followers
  of the banned Falun Gong spiritual group are being held at a psychiatric
  hospital on the outskirts of Beijing, a human rights group says.
  http://www10.nytimes.com/library/world/asia/012100china-sect.html

# Chinese Police Eyeing Another "Qigong" Sect - leaders imprisoned:
  http://www.insidechina.com:80/news.php3?id=127124
# Chinese separatists get death - Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang targeted:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563595725-8d0

: Has your cult, rebel group or corporation been targeted by govt? Has your
group target a govt? Are you targeted because you provoke disorder, disunity
& discord? Would you rather persecute or be persecuted? Can you use martyrs?

# Violence rampant in 'new' Indonesia - Without dictator, world's fifth
  most-populous nation is exploding with religious hatred, persecution:
  http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exne

[CTRL] Mind Control--Fictional Fantasy or Operational Nightmare?

[lloyd]

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A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date of January 25, 2000
^^
Subject: Mind Control--Fictional Fantasy or Operational Nightmare?

 The recent release of Dean Koontz' novel, _False Memory_ has created
the ideal occasion to review the literature pointing to the possibility of
operational mind control zombies behind the recent spate of bizarre
incidents supporting the administration's gun control agenda. Dean Koontz'
novel should be seen as nothing less than a brilliant presentation of the
hypothesis of mass mind control through the programming of individual mind
control zombies.

False Memory by Dean Koontz
Hardcover Novel: $26.96
Audio Tape Version: $39.95
In-stock -- Purchase by Credit Card:
http://a-albionic.com/merchform.html

Mind Control Bibliography

Note: Check availability and price by e-mail before ordering.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mass Control:  Engineering Human Consciousness by Jim Keith, 1999
Paperback, 253 pages,
 $16.95

Here stands the New Man.  His conception of reality is a dance of
electronic images fired into his forebrain, a gossamer construction of his
masters, designed so that he will not, under any circumstances, perceive
the actual.  His happiness is delivered to him through a tube or an
electronic connection.  His God lurks behind an electronic curtain; when
the curtain is pulled away we find the CIA sorcerer, the media
manipulator. . .

* From the first stirrings of the psychological and technological control
of humanity at the turn of this century, to the creation of an education
system intended to dumb student down rather than teach them

* From the creation of the CIA and secret societies of the elite, to mass
drugging of the population

* From the use of subliminal persuasion, to the creation of cults of
control

* Finally, to the invention of top secret mind control devices with
capabilities far beyond anything that the media has ever revealed to an
unsuspecting public

All of this and more is told in this thoroughly documented history of the
control of mankind!

There has never been a book which so carefully and thoroughly exposes the
secret plans to dominate world consciousness.

Jim Keith is one of the foremost writers and researchers on political
conspiracy in the world today.  His books include Black Helicopters Over
America, Mind Control and UFOs, Casebook on Alternative 3, The Gemstone
Files, Casebook on the Men in Black, and other classics in the literature
of conspiracy


Age of Propaganda:  The Everyday Use and Abuse of Persuasion by Prtakanis,
Paperback,
 $12.95

Behavior Control:  Hypnotism, drugs, brain implants, computer
psychotherapy. . .a psychologist explores the danger and the promise of
mind control by Perry London, 1969 Hardcover, 239 pages, $48.00

The Body Electric:  Electromagnetism and Life by Robert O. Becker and Gary
Selden, 1985  Paperback, 364 pages, $20.00

Invisible warfare?

Brain Changers:  Scientists and the New Mind Control by Maya Pines, 1973
.  Hardcover, 248 pages, $42.00

Brain Control by Elliot S. Valenstein Frwd by Walle JH Nauta, 1973404 13.
Misc.  Hardcover, 404 pages, $55.00

The Brain Revolution:  The Frontiers of Mind Research by Marilyn Ferguson,
1973 13.  Misc.  Hardcover, 380 pages, $40.00

Brainwashing:  A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics;
Psychopolitics and the Suppression of Man and Civilization by Kenneth
Goff, 1988 7.  Amok, Control Paperback, 80 pages, $12.00

Manual supposedly written by Stalin's head of the KGB.  Actually written
by L. Ron Hubbard to discredit psychiatry?

Brainwashing:  The Men Who Defied It by E. Hunter,  Paperback,
$7.00

Korean war victims.

The Control of Candy Jones:  A Famous and Beautiful Woman's Mind
Shattering Ordeal by Donald Bain, 1976  Hardcover, 0267
pages, $38.00

CIA hypnotizes a secret courier.

The Controllers:  A New Hypothesis of Alien Abductions by Martin Cannon,
  Lazer Reprint, 66 pages, $15.00 [author withdrew...not available]

Remarkably sophisticated theory that mind control techniques are far more
advanced than anyone had thought and "operational" in the service of the
New World Order.

The Devils of Loudun by Aldous Huxley, 1952 Hardcover,
 $38.00

"If exposed long enough to the tomtoms and the singing, every one of our
philosophers would end by capering and howling with the savages...assemble
a mob of men and women...treat them to amplified band music, bright
lights...and in next to no time you can reduce them to a state of almost
mindless subhumanity.  Never before have so few been in a position to make
fools, maniacs, or criminals of so many."

Feeding Frenzy:  How Attack Journalism Has Transformed America by Sabato,
 Hardcover, $22.95

The Hidden Persuaders:  The Classic Examination of How the Media
Manipulate What You Think, Feel, and Spend by Vance Packard, 1980
Paperback, 288 pages,
 $25

[CTRL] Fwd: Guelfi and the EU's Central Bank

[Kris Millegan]

 "The scandal over misuse of political funds in Germany threatens to
undermine the political development of Europe," said Lord Lamont, former
British finance minister.

 "In 1997, French officials found oil giant Elf-Aquitaine had paid $37
million in murky ``commissions'' to middleman Andre Guelfi linked to the
purchase of [East German] petrol station chains around the time of German
reunification.  Guelfi said both Kohl and French president Francois
Mitterrand had known of the payments.
 "In December 1999, Germany's Social Democrat-led government said
chancellery files on the [Elf purchase] had vanished.
 "Parliament then formed a commission to look into bribes in the
[purchase] as part of its probe into secret donations amassed by Kohl for his
Christian Democrats
 "The French weekly Paris Match published part of an original letter in
which Kohl urged Mitterrand in 1994 to make sure Elf fulfilled the [pay-off]
terms of the contract.
 "Germany's public television network ARD said on January 22 that Elf had
made secret donations to the CDU at Mitterrand's behest to ensure Kohl's
re-election in 1994 at a time when France was keen for Germany to seal
European monetary union."

 "SPD parliamentary leaders accuse the Kohl-controlled CDU of
money-laundering and behaving like a criminal gang in power.  Kohl, dubbed
"Don Kohleone" by German media drawing comparisons with the Italian mafia,
apparently used the slush funds to reinforce his grip on the party."

 "Some of the slush funds were traced back to 1991-92, when Germany made
a controversial sale of tanks to Saudi Arabia.
 "Witnesses being summoned include former foreign ministers Hans Dietrich
Genscher and Klaus Kinkel, ex-finance minister Theo Waigel, and ex-defence
minister Volker Ruehe   Also included is Karlheinz Schreiber, a German arms
dealer who lobbied for the Saudi Arabia tank deal and who is now fighting
extradition from Canada."


German Finance Scandal Could Taint Europe, UK's Lamont Says

London, Jan. 25 (Bloomberg) -- The scandal over misuse of political funds in
Germany threatens to undermine the political development of Europe, said Lord
Norman Lamont, the former British finance minister.

Lamont, who was chancellor of the exchequer from 1990 to 1993 under
Conservative Prime Minister John Major, said he was concerned that closer
political union in Europe would risk Britain becoming entangled in such
scandals now surrounding former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl and the late
French President Francois Mitterrand.

The comments, in an interview with British Broadcasting Corp. radio, suggest
the scandal over Kohl's alleged misuse of Kohl's Christian Democratic Union
party could have broad implications for the effort to advance monetary union
of the region under the single euro currency.

``It poses very serious problems because it is suggesting that corruption in
Europe has a cross border dimension,'' Lamont said. ``These allegations are
not just of concern to Germans but must be of concerned to anybody who is
concerned about the development of Europe.''

His comments follow allegations that the former French state oil company, Elf
Aquitaine SA, gave Kohl's government 85 million deutsche marks ($44 million)
to win approval to build a new Leuna oil refinery in East Germany in 1992.
German and French television stations ARD and France Deux reported Sunday
those funds were found in a secret CDU account controlled by Kohl.

That finding linked Mitterrand's government with the German scandal, which
alleges Kohl had control of a series of secret accounts that were wrongly
used to advance the CDU's own political aims.

Maastricht

Lamont questioned whether probes into Kohl's funding might uncover evidence
that Kohl's CDU party supported Mitterrand in his efforts to win French
support of the 1992 Maastricht Treaty, which created the European Union and
proposed the single currency now shared by 11 European nations.

``The Maastricht election was a very close vote. It was decided by a handful
of votes. How was that result achieved?'' Lamont asked. ``The relationship
between Mitterrand and Kohl was extremely close. Kohl is accused of winning
money in order to further his policies.''

Such a discovery could damage the credibility of the euro currency ahead of
Britain's decision on whether to join the project. Currently, British Prime
Minister Tony Blair's government's policy is to prepare to join after the
next general election due by mid-2002 then decide later whether to go ahead
with the plan.

For Lamont, whose party opposes Britain's participation in the euro, the
scandal suggests U.K. politicians might be corrupted by a closer economic
union with German and France.

``There is a risk of contagion with Britain,'' Lamont said. ``We are a clean
country compared with what has happened in Italy and Ireland and what seems
to have happened in France and Germany. We ought to watch this very closely
and see what the conclus

[CTRL] Fwd: Millions of FAKE Americans?

[Kris Millegan]

L.A. Raid Finds Fake Documents

.c The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES (AP) - More than a MILLION fake documents, including Social
Security cards and drivers' licenses, were seized during a raid of a
self-storage business, officials said Monday.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service said the raid late Friday led to
the arrest of five people who are being held without bail.

The seizure was related to 1998's ``Operation Fine Print,'' in which 11
people were arrested and pleaded guilty in federal court.

Juan San German, a 34-year-old Mexican citizen, was sentenced to a 6 1/2-year
prison sentence earlier this month for running a counterfeiting ring that
supplied illegal immigrants with fake identity documents throughout the
country.

The counterfeit documents included Resident Alien, or so-called ``green
cards'' issued by the INS.

``We have dealt another significant blow to the counterfeiting industry,''
said Tom Schiltgen, INS Los Angeles district director. ``This operation will
have a ripple effect as the would-be recipients of these documents are also
put out of business.''

[CTRL] Fwd: Col. Lunev Again

[Kris Millegan]

In a message dated 1/25/00 2:28:14 AM, Das GOAT writes:

>hearing called by Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind

 A CIA asset.
Om
K
-



Ex-Spy Testifies in Hearing

By LINDA DEUTSCH
.c The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES (AP) - With the drama of a McCarthy hearing, a former Soviet spy
was led into a room with a black bag over his head and shielded by a screen
from the audience at a Congressional hearing on Russian espionage.

Stanislav Lunev was the star witness at Monday's sparsely attended House
Committee on Government Reform hearing called by Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind.

Much of Lunev's testimony was a repeat of allegations made in his 1998 book
in which he said Russia's post-Cold War leaders still see the United States
as the enemy.

Lunev, who is in the federal witness protection program, said he masqueraded
as a reporter for the Russian news agency ITAR-Tass for three years during
which he scouted ``drop sites'' for weapons caches in the U.S. But he said he
has no idea if they were ever planted.

Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., suggested in November that the spy caches might
include suitcase-sized nuclear weapons that can produce a 10-kiloton blast.

Weldon, who also testified Monday, stood at one point, holding up a large
briefcase and announced: ``I have a small atomic demolition device I'd like
to bring up to you.''

Burton quickly reassured the audience that it was ``a mockup'' created by the
CIA.

Russian officials have confirmed their arsenal includes such devices, but
investigators have said there is no evidence they are part of the purported
hidden stockpiles.

By the time the hearing ended, no one had been able to do more than speculate
that there were ``dead drop sites'' for Russian weapons in California.

Burton, who said earlier there were ``many potential targets for Russian
sabotage in California,'' was questioned by reporters about his motives for
the hearings and whether he knows of actual weapons sites in the state.

``I don't know whether there's anything like that here nor does the
administration,'' he said, but he insisted that the Russians should be asked.

When he returned to the hearing room, Burton said, ``Some members of the
media are indicating we might be trying to create paranoia and a new Cold
War. That's untrue. ... I'm distressed that some members of the media think
we're trying to scare everyone to death.''

Burton said he has repeatedly asked the White House and the State Department
to investigate the question of weapons caches but they have never responded.

Re: [CTRL] .... and a point of clarification

[Eagle 1]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Tenorlove,
There was nothing dishonest about it...
I read that you said you are not going to comment about the Talmud,  which
is,  in my opinion the real sidestep, but it's neither here nor there...  if
you care not to comment;and I that's why that was left out of the
original quote.  Your entire message was listed below my response  for
anyone's reference as to quote.

I took issue with what I quoted you said.  That is why that is there...
It's no different than someone saying... """ Tenorlove wrote: """at the
heading of a response.  I just happened to put it in the middle,  and put
there what I took up issue with.

You cannot discuss the Pharisees,  however,  in my opinion,  without
including the Talmudic as well as the Mystical...  for even the word
'Pharisee' stands for the religious order during a certain period of time.
And for the record,  I am not concerned with Roman occupation or
unoccupation...  nor am I concerned with who liked them and who didn't.  I
am concerned with who and what they really are beneath their actor's
garments... for they are just what Jesus called them,  hypocrits,  vipers
and progeny of the devil,  and so does and is the religion that has emerged
from the bowels of Babylonian Mysticism and the Babylonian Talmud called
"Judaism" today,  that was instituted 100's of years ago by apostate Jews.
Truly it is the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel...  For how
could Jesus call it that,  if he did not find it in that condition?  One has
to come to the realization by understanding who and what it is that sits in
the Holy Place, calling itself God.

In all due respect,  Tenorlove,  I was fair.  your full message was attached
as it is to this one.

eagle 1

- Original Message -
From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL]  and a point of clarification


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Eagle,
>
> Please re-read the original message; I left it on the bottom. I
> HONESTLY admitted that "I'm not going to comment on the Talmudic
> aspects of the post because all I know of the Talmud has come from
> secondary sources."
> The ACTION of snipping that part off the quote and then saying about
> the rest: "the comments above seems to have side-stepped the original
> issue [my point] that Jewish Mysticism and Talmudic Judaism has taken
> over [replaced] the original Faith of Abraham" is IMO, dishonest.
> Should I report on a book that I have not read? I prefer, when I can,
> to consult primary sources.
>
> As far as the assumption that Judas was murdered by the Pharisees, I've
> never heard that one before -- interesting, worth looking into. But, if
> Jesus was murdered by the Pharisees, then the Pharisees are really
> Romans, not Jews. The Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling body, could have
> stoned him of their own accord if they would have had reason too.
> Crucifixion was a ROMAN punishment given for one crime only: TREASON
> against the Roman Empire. Jesus, by claiming to be the Son of God, and
> claiming that he came to fulfill the Law, would indeed have been guilty
> of what Pilate, as the Emperor's representative in Palestine, would
> have called treason.
>
> To reiterate, I called the Pharisees "anti-Roman." The Romans, in
> Jesus' time, were not Christian, they were pagan. There were no
> "Christians" during Jesus' lifetime. The Christian Church did not
> coalesce into a distinct entity until closer to the time of the Jewish
> uprising against Rome in 70 AD.
>
> But I am intrigued by the "Judas was murdered" hypothesis. :-D
>
> Tenorlove
>
> --- Eagle 1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
> >  -Cui Bono?-
> >
> > Tenorlove,
> > From all the study I've done over the past forty years,  I can only
> > find
> > without fail,  the facts that the "Kenites" who are the direct
> > descendants
> > or sons of Cain (Qayin),  are the ones who stole the seat of Moses
> > and
> > presented themselves as God,   [specifically with regard to the Law]
> > and
> > replaced their Babylonian Mysticism with what is now called "Jewish
> > Mysticism" and the Kabbalah.  They placed themselves in the judgment
> > seat of
> > Moses, so muchso,  that they took upon themselves as a " council " to
> > find a
> > way to kill Jesus and then tried to blame it on their scapegoat,
> > Judas
> > Iscariot,  whom we know repented of his misunderstandings and
> > betrayal of
> > Christ,  and who was also murdered for what he knew;  according to
> > Acts ch 1
> > v18  -  "Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity
> > [thirty
> > pieces of silver that betrayed Christ to the Pharisees];  and falling
> > headlong he burst asunder in the midst,  and his bowels gushed out."
> > We
> > know from this example alone that Judas did not hang himself,  for a
> > hung
> > person does just that, "hangs" 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2

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# PineBush UFO Caught With Conventional Red Laser Beam Technology. Something
  highly-unusual happened to my wife and me near Pine Bush on 15 Jan 2000.
  Yes, another encounter with Pine Bush Anomalistic Observational Phenomena
  (AOP), but this time whoever is behind this phenomenon may have tipped
  their hand by using a red laser tracking beam. Could we be closer to an
  answer regarding whether ETI or the covert military is behind these
  events?  http://members.xoom.com/cornetbr1/laser_beam.htm

: Are all real UFOs just military test-flights? Are any military test-pilots
really aliens? Have you tracked any UFOs with red laser beams lately? Where?
Did they notice, take counter-measures, take evasive/hostile action, kill??

# An Alleged Hoax & A Possible Misidentification. I witnessed the famous
  Gulf Breeze UFO several times. But THIS! http://www.caus.org/mc012500.htm
# The Dirty Old Rag UFO: http://www.caus.org/mu012500.htm
@ Paranormal Research Primer: http://www.tje.net/para/main/
@ Inexplicata: Journal of Hispanic Ufology: http://www.inexplicata.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# World Pagan Leaders Call for Papal Apology. MONTGOMERY, Ala. /US Newswire/
  Leaders of the international Pagan community have called on Pope John Paul
  II to include Pagans in the Vatican's upcoming Millennial Apology for the
  Inquisition. Leaders point to the two-millennia history of Roman Catholic
  oppression of Pagan (i.e.indigenous nature-worshipping) peoples, including
  forced conversions, desecration of sacred sites, perpetration of false
  propaganda concerning Pagan beliefs and practices, and collaboration with
  the state in persecuting and executing Pagans during the Inquisition. Say
  you're sorry: http://usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0124-139.htm

: Has your church oppressed many opponents? Was this necessary? Do you deal
harshly with all opponents, internal and external? Do all belief systems? Is
this necessary for belief systems to survive? Should your church survive???

@ Catholic Encyclopedia: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/
@ à Kempis: http://ccel.wheaton.edu/kempis/imitation/imitation.html
@ Loyala: http://ccel.wheaton.edu/i/ignatius/exercises/exercises.html
@ John: http://ccel.wheaton.edu/john_of_the_cross/dark_night/dark_night.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# AND THEN THERE WERE FOUR: Time Warner/EMI merger shrinks the major
  record-company field to four players. Can you say "oligopoly?"
  http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/entr/katz01252000.htm
# Huge internet music market was key to the deal. Greed & fear too:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_616000/616259.stm

@ THE SERIOUS SIDE OF POP CULTURE: Not all frivolous or violent or shallow.
  "The 'pop' in pop culture is its universality, its mass appeal, its acces-
  sibility. In its form — its all-encompassing vastness, now magnified by
  the Internet — as well as in its content, pop culture is mostly a force
  for good." If you say so: http://www.msnbc.com/news/351151.asp?cp1=1

: Is your cultural accessible/remote, exploited/devouring, assimilated? Are
you wired into global culture? Do the tendrils extend into your brain, bank
account, genitals, refrigerator? Do they tickle? Is your alien implant idle?

# 21ST CENTURY GOLD RUSH: The digital age is turning TV & film upside down.
  Will the cyber-revolution be "as radical as the shift from radio to TV"??
  www.infoculture.cbc.ca/archives/newmedia/newmedia_01242000_partone.phtml
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Falwell sues White House, FBI. LYNCHBURG, Va. (AP)  Rev. Jerry Falwell has
  sued the White House & FBI for denying a request for info about him that
  he contends is kept in a "secret" Justice Dept database about religious &
  anti-abortion leaders. The lawsuit contends the database is used to keep
  info intended for use in smear tactics. Falwell contends that keeping info
  about him in the database is a violation of the Privacy Act, which makes
  it illegal for govt to keep a file on a person without a lawful reason.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563604748-9fe

: Are you a govt agent? Have you smeared any 'religious' leaders lately? Do
they invite smears by their words & actions? Have you been smeared lately?
Do you deserve it? Does anyone else? If info about you is true, how can its
release be considered a 'smear?' Are you a sanctimonious hypocrite? Why not?

# Anti-abortion protesters meet in D.C. -- reiterate ancient

Re: [CTRL] 22 Million Members v. AOL: A Class Action Suit?

[Eagle 1]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

Bill,
You can't say you weren't warned.  There were two guys who three years ago
left AOL,  were actually fired,  because they wanted no part of what they
saw AOL developing for the future of it's members in order to gather
information from each and every user in the version at that time,  4.0.
They went to Brazil,  set up shop,  and then wrote to everyone on AOL's
mailing list at the time and discredited AOL for it's covert actions. I got
one of those letters while I was on AOL  and it was not long after that I
found a new local server.  I too, found that the program had rewritten many
of my internal files on my computer.  Once I got away from AOL,  got my
computer hard drive reformatted,  I found that I had less screen freezes,
less crashes,  and less "buggy" problems than I'd had as a member.

Needless to say,  AOL persued those two guys that left AOL to warn everyone
of the potential dangers of the hidden agenda,  and never heard from or
about them again.

NOW,  I don't know why I ever joined up with AOL,  except it was the thing
to do six years ago,  when they were new and I was computer illiterate.

I hope you get your computer problems resolved...  but don't expect to until
you choose to break free from the monopolizers.

eagle 1

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Kingsbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 1:52 AM
Subject: [CTRL] 22 Million Members v. AOL: A Class Action Suit?


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
>  " In all, I found AOL had added or altered 229 files on my system,
>  including over 4.5MB of Windows system files!  It significantly
>  (and unnecessarily) altered my networking setup.  It even diddled
>  with Power Management settings in my Registry! "
>
>  .. Did they add stealth logging features to AOL-5 (for Windows)
>  to track details of how you use your computer, and send the results
>  back to AOL's big-brother database ?  Read the above, one more time.
>
>
> ~~~
>  From: "Fred Langa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [langalist] 17-Jan-00 LangaList
>
>
>  1) WARNING! The "Upgrade of Death"
>
>  Long-time readers may remember my first experience with AOL 5.0  (when
>  I tried to upgrade a system from AOL 4 to AOL 5). I'll spare you the
>  details, but after trying every trick I knew to get the system working
>  properly after the upgrade, the punchline was "Format C:\"
>
>  I wrote about my unhappy experiences in this newsletter
>  (see http://www.langa.com/newsletters/1999/nov-1-99.htm#aol)
>  and was amazed at the flood of mail I got in reply from readers
>  whose experiences were as bad-- -or even worse!--- than mine.
>  (See http://www.langa.com/newsletters/1999/nov- 4-99.htm#aol1)
>
>  With all that, I decided simply to try avoiding AOL, but it's a
>  marketing behemoth that just won't quit. Day after day, readers would
>  write to me or to the WinMag staff complaining about AOL5.0. Then,
>  last week, with the announcement of AOL taking over Time Warner and
>  becoming the largest online/content source on the planet, it became
>  clear I needed a closer look:
>
>  Because I knew from reader mail and from painful personal experience
>  that upgrading from 4.0 to 5.0 often brought major trouble, I decided
>  to try a clean install of AOL 5.0.
>
>  It was eye-opening. In all, I found AOL had added or altered 229 files
>  on my system, including over 4.5MB of Windows system files!
>  It significantly (and unnecessarily) altered my networking setup.
>  It even diddled with Power Management settings in my Registry!
>
>  I'll detail everything--- including what files were altered, how you
>  can tell what files and settings AOL altered on your machine, which
>  kinds of users and systems AOL is good for, and which it's really bad
>  for--- in this week's column on the WinMag.Com site. (The full column
>  is far too detailed to present in an email, such as this newsletter.)
>
>  In the end, I did get AOL installed and running. If you're even
>  thinking about using AOL5.0, please check out the column first:
>  It may save you a ton of headaches.
>
>  If you're already using AOL5, then the column will help you determine
>  exactly what the software already did to your system.
>
>  And either way, please join in the discussion: Is your AOL experience
>  different from mine? Have you found ways around the upgrade hassles?
>  What do you think the future will hold as AOL emerges as the biggest
>  media company on the planet? Join in the discussion starting in the
>  afternoon, EST (gmt-5) TUESDAY (a day later than normal, due to the
>  US holiday on Monday) 18-Jan-00 at
>  http://www.winmag.com/columns/explorer/
>
>  (Note: if you get there early, you'll see the previous column on
>  computing resolutions for the new year---and if you haven't read that
>  one, check it out too!)
>
>
>  ~~~
>  From: "Fred Langa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [l

Re: [CTRL] 22 Million Members v. AOL: A Class Action Suit?

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Ma'am,
Your answer to this email is very telling about your reading and
comprehensive skills. Bill didn't have aproblem with his AOL account . He was
fowarding a missive about it. Also, I believe if you check the story about
the guys moving to Brazil is a hoax. As to whether AOL is part and parcel
intel it sure could be. I don't know. They don't control me.  And if I can
wield a sword in the belly of the beast, I shall. So please try and really
read something before going into your dualistic knee-jerk diatribes.

Om
k

In a message dated 1/25/00 8:46:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Bill,
>You can't say you weren't warned.



>I hope you get your computer problems resolved...  but don't expect to
>until
>you choose to break free from the monopolizers
-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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Re: [CTRL] What it takes. 1

[sno0wl]

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 -Cui Bono?-

On 22 Jan 00, at 10:38, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

> << The question then becomes, will humans survive at all? >>
>
> Probably not.  We're a cancer on this planet.  Let's hope we get
> dumped before we've managed to destroy all other life.  Prudy



I've heard this argument before and it's too easy. I don't feel like
I'm a "cancer" on the planet. As far as I know you, I don't think you
are a "cancer" on the planet. In my opinion, me and thee are
assetts--or at least not harmful elements here. So who are we
talking about? I think we're talking about actually a very small
number of people who have the power to create significant damage
and "cancers" on the planet and who do not restrain themselves
from causing harm--and always for the sake of more profit and
power.. Where me and thee are culpable is that there is often a
small sidebar of technology from these "cancers and damages"
that "trickle down" to us and that we actually we enjoy and which
make our personal lives a little easier. Taking on all that guilt is a
bit excessive.
sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Freemasonry's Occult, Evil Empire Exposed

[name AOL USER]

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 -Cui Bono?-

To answer your question:  " definitely some crazy stuff going on with the
Vatican and the
position of the Pope.  Specially when you look at the whole situation on how
the current Pope obtained the position... Anyone have any more info on this?
It was a crazy deal.Jamie "

There is an excellent book in paperback - "In God's Name" an investigation
into the murder of Pope John Paul I, written by David A. Yallop. It explains
in detail, with
pictures, and documents the "crazy stuff going on with the Vatican."

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[CTRL] OEN 11/25/00

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Click Here: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe
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Digital Society


European Government Bond Trading Goes Online


The Internet continue to change financial markets.

A group of European investment banks joined forces yesterday to unveil a web
site for trading in European government bonds, taking the huge but
old-fashioned market a giant step towards permanent residence in cyberspace.

BondClick.com will allow institutional investors to check prices of
government bonds and execute trades without having to call individual brokers
or bond-trading houses. The multi-billion euro market is still mainly a
costly and time-consuming over-the-counter operation.

The new site, which its backers say is the first in Europe, mirrors similar
ventures in the US such as Tradeweb and Market Axess. It reflects the growing
desire among investors, brokers and even governments to move the entire
market into the electronic era to cut costs, increase the transparency of
pricing and make access easier.

"This is a notable step forward for the European bond markets," said Saman
Majd, global head of government bonds at Deutsche Bank, one of the six
founders of BondClick.com. "The idea is a site that becomes the means by
which institutions get prices from multiple dealers and execute their trades."

ABN Amro, BNP Paribas, Dresdner Bank, J.P. Morgan and Italy's Caboto Holding
Sim are the venture's other founders. The banks said they would form a joint
venture to operate the system and would own equal shares. Other market
participants may be invited to join later.

Trading in euro-zone government bonds is likely to be the main service
BondClick.com provides when it is up and running towards the middle of this
year, but bonds of governments outside the euro-zone will be included. The
six banks are among the biggest traders of government bonds, so bankers said
there should be no liquidity problems.

BondClick.com does not intend to be an exchange or inter-dealer market. It
therefore should complement rather than compete with EuroMTS, an electronic
trading platform for European bonds, and BrokerTec, a global bond trading
system proposed by a consortium of investment banks.

The launch of the site reflects the way the internet is transforming the
world's bond markets. Equity markets have already succumbed, leading to the
rise of day traders in the US and initial public offerings sold over the web.

Governments are now looking to the internet to allow retail investors to buy
and sell bonds directly. The French, British and Spanish debt management
offices plan extensive use of the internet as they modernise their government
bond markets and make them electronic marketplaces.

The aim is to cut costs for retail investors, who could avoid paying fees to
brokers, and to lower the cost of debt by reducing the role of the middlemen
in bond issues.
The Financial Times, January 25, 2000
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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
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[CTRL] The National Security Agency Declassified

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

from:
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Click Here: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB23/index.html">
index
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The National Security Agency Declassified


A National Security Archive
Electronic Briefing Book
by Jeffrey T. Richelson
assisted by Michael L. Evans

Introduction and Overview
The National Security Agency (NSA) is one of the most secret (and
secretive) members of the U.S. intelligence community. The predecessor of
NSA, the Armed Forces Security Agency (AFSA), was established within the
Department of Defense, under the command of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on May
20, 1949. In theory, the AFSA was to direct the communications intelligence
and electronic intelligence activities of the military service signals
intelligence units (at the time consisting of the Army Security Agency, Naval
Security Group, and Air Force Security Service). In practice, the AFSA had
little power, its functions being defined in terms of activities not
performed by the service units.1
The creation of NSA resulted from a December 10, 1951, memo sent by
Walter Bedell Smith to James B. Lay, Executive Secretary of the National
Security Council. The memo observed that "control over, and coordination of,
the collection and processing of Communications Intelligence had proved
ineffective" and recommended a survey of communications intelligence
activities. The proposal was approved on December 13, 1951, and the study
authorized on December 28, 1951. The report was completed by June 13, 1952.
Generally known as the "Brownell Committee Report," after committee chairman
Herbert Brownell, it surveyed the history of U.S. communications intelligence
activities and suggested the need for a much greater degree of coordination
and direction at the national level. As the change in the security agency's
name indicated, the role of the NSA was to extend beyond the armed forces.2
In the last several decades some of the secrecy surrounding NSA has been
stripped away by Congressional hearings and investigative research. Most
recently NSA has been the subject of criticism for failing to adjust to the
post-Cold War technological environment as well as for operating a "global
surveillance network" alleged to intrude on the privacy of individuals across
the world. The following documents provide insight into the creation,
evolution, management and operations of NSA, including the controversial
ECHELON program.
Several of these documents also appear in either of two National Security
Archive collections on U.S. intelligence. The U.S. Intelligence Community:
Organization, Operations and Management: 1947-1989 (1990) and U.S. Espionage
and Intelligence: Organization, Operations, and Management, 1947-1996 (1997)
publish together for the first time recently declassified documents
pertaining to the organizational structure, operations and management of the
U.S. Intelligence Community over the last fifty years, cross-indexed for
maximum accessibility. Together, these two sets reproduce on microfiche over
2,000 organizational histories, memoranda, manuals, regulations, directives,
reports, and studies, totalling more than 50,000 pages of documents from the
Office of the Director of Central Intelligence, the Central Intelligence
Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Defense
Intelligence Agency, military service intelligence organizations, National
Security Council, and other official government agencies and organizations.


Go to the Documents
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Return to National Security Archive Main Menu
Notes
1. Report to the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense by a Special
Committee Appointed Pursuant to Letter of 28 December 1951 to Survey
Communications Intelligence Activities of the Government, June 13, 1952, pp.
47-48, 119; RG 457, SR-123, Military Reference Branch, NARA; The National
Cryptologic School, On Watch: Profiles from the National Security Agency's
Past 40 Years (Ft. Meade, Md.: NCS, 1986), p. 17.
2. Walter Bedell Smith, "Proposed Survey of Communications Intelligence
Activities," December 10, 1951; Report to the Secretary of State and the
Secretary of Defense by a Special Committee, p. 118; U.S. Congress, Senate
Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to
Intelligence Activities, Final Report, Book III: Foreign and Military
Intelligence (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1976), p.
736; National Security Agency/Central Security Service, NSA/CSS Manual 22-1
(Ft. Meade,
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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
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Re: [CTRL] Freemasonry's Occult, Evil Empire Exposed

[Eagle 1]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

AOL USER:
I'll second that motion to see the book "In God's Name" by David Yallop.
For awhile,  several years,  as a matter of fact,  it was out of print...
hmm?  Wonder why?

Great information straight from members directly involved behind the scenes
at the Vatican.

eagle 1

- Original Message -
From: "name AOL USER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Freemasonry's Occult, Evil Empire Exposed


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> To answer your question:  " definitely some crazy stuff going on with the
> Vatican and the
> position of the Pope.  Specially when you look at the whole situation on
how
> the current Pope obtained the position... Anyone have any more info on
this?
> It was a crazy deal.Jamie "
>
> There is an excellent book in paperback - "In God's Name" an investigation
> into the murder of Pope John Paul I, written by David A. Yallop. It
explains
> in detail, with
> pictures, and documents the "crazy stuff going on with the Vatican."
>

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[CTRL] A National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book

[Kris Millegan]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

from:
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Click Here: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB23/index2.html">index2
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The National Security Agency Declassified
A National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book
by Jeffrey T. Richelson
Assisted by Michael L. Evans

The Documents
Document 1.  NSCID 9, "Communications Intelligence," July 1, 1948.
National Security Council Intelligence Directives have provided the
highest-level policy guidance for intelligence activities since they were
first issued in 1947.
This document establishes and defines the responsibilities of the United
States Communications Intelligence Board. The Board, according to the
directive, is to provide "authoritative coordination of [the] Communications
Intelligence activities of the Government and to advise the Director of
Central Intelligence in those matters in the field of Communications
Intelligence for which he is responsible."
The particularly sensitive nature of communications intelligence (COMINT)
activities was highlighted by paragraph 6, which noted that such activities
should be treated "in all respects as being outside the framework of other or
general intelligence activities." Thus, regulations or directives pertaining
to other intelligence activities were not applicable to COMINT activities.

Document 2.  Memorandum from President Harry S. Truman to the Secretary of
State, the Secretary of Defense, Subject: Communications Intelligence
Activities, October 24, 1952.
This memorandum revokes the provisions of NSCID 9 with regard to the
composition, responsibilities, and procedures of the U.S. Communications
Intelligence Board. It establishes the USCIB as an entity "acting for and
under" a newly created Special Committee of the National Security Council for
COMINT, consisting of the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense.
More significantly, Truman's memo, along with a Department of Defense
directive, established NSA, and transformed communications intelligence from
a military activity divided among the three services to a unified national
activity.3 Thus, the first sentence states that "The communications
intelligence (COMINT) activities of the United States are a national
responsibility."
The memorandum instructs the Special Committee to issue a directive to
the Secretary of Defense which defines the COMINT mission of NSA as being to
"provide an effective, unified organization and control of the communications
intelligence activities of the United States conducted against foreign
governments." Thus, "all COMINT collection and production resources of the
United States are placed under his operational and technical control."
The directive provided the NSA director with no authority regarding the
collection of electronic intelligence (ELINT)—such as intelligence obtained
from the interception of the emanations of radarsor of missile telemetry.
Responsibility for ELINT remained with the military services.

Document 3.  Memo to President Johnson, September 6, 1968.
This memo, from national security adviser Walt Rostow to President
Johnson, provides information concerning North Vietnamese/Viet Cong military
and political strategy during the last months of Johnson's presidency. The
last item in the memo notes that its conclusions were partly a function of
the author's access to relevant intercepted communications.
The memo specifically notes unusual, high-priority message traffic
between Hanoi and subordinate units directing forces in South Vietnam as well
as urgent messages from the Military Affairs Committee of COSVN (Central
Office for South Vietnam) to subordinates. It does not reveal how extensively
the U.S. was able to decrypt the messages.

Document 4.  Department of Defense Directive S-5100.20, "The National
Security Agency and the Central Security Service," December 23, 1971.
Originally classified Secret, this directive remains in effect today,
with minor changes. Key portions of the directive specify the NSA's role in
managing the signals intelligence effort for the entire U.S. government, the
role of the Secretary of Defense in appointing and supervising the work of
the NSA's director, the authorities assigned to the director of NSA, and the
relationships that NSA is expected to maintain with other components of the
government.
Among the specific responsibilities assigned to the director are
preparation of a consolidated SIGINT program and budget for Defense
Department SIGINT activities, the "exercise of SIGINT operational control
over SIGINT activities of the United States," and the production and
dissemination of SIGINT "in accordance with the objectives, requirements, and
priorities established by the Director of Central Intelligence."
The directive reflects the 1958 addition of electronic intelligence to
NSA's responsibilities, making it the national authority for both components

[CTRL] Waco FLIR. FBI says it is "Glints"

[Gavin Phillips]

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Subj:[waco-group] WTH - FBI employees: Video shows 'glint' not gunfire
Date:   1/25/00 10:41:19 AM Central Standard Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Oh boy, we've got some real ace pilot here.  Blah-blah-blah.  Janice
~
http://www.accesswaco.com/auto/feed/news/local/2000/01/24/948775839.08003.1122
.0076.html

FBI employees: Video shows 'glint' not gunfire
By MARK ENGLAND Tribune-Herald staff writer

Although most admit never seeing as many multiple flashes before, FBI agents
and technicians are adamant that the flashes seen on an infrared video of
Mount Carmel on April 19, 1993, are "glint" and not gunfire, according to
depositions for the upcoming wrongful-death lawsuit filed against the
government by surviving Branch Davidians.

The Tribune-Herald reviewed the depositions of 20 FBI employees, including
technicians, pilots and Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) operators. None of
the FBI employees were members of the Hostage Rescue Team, the tactical unit
accused by some critics of firing shots at the Davidians on the final day of
the 51-day siege, which ended in a fire that led to the deaths of David
Koresh and 75 followers.

FBI employee No. 15 — the identities of the agents are sealed on the order of
U.S. Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. of Waco — testified during his deposition that
he reviewed at least 10 FLIR tapes looking for flashes similar to those on
the Waco FLIR tape.

He told plaintiffs' attorney Mike Caddell of Houston that he found examples
of flashes on other FLIR tapes.

"The one that sticks out in my mind is a surveillance that was being done on
a vehicle in the daytime," said the FBI employee, who was the FLIR operator
when Mount Carmel caught fire. "And you could see a flash off of the fender
and the hood of the car at one point in the orbit."

Caddell asked the FLIR operator if he had ever seen multiple flashes like
those present on the Mount Carmel FLIR tape. The FLIR operator maintained
circumstances are different every time the camera is used.

"It's different," the FLIR operator said. "Different circumstances, different
temperatures, different scenery. You are not looking at the same thing."

Asked if he had considered the possibility that some of the flashes on the
Waco FLIR tape were weapons fired by the Davidians, the FLIR operator said,
"I think it's glint."

Caddell asked why the FLIR tape doesn't show flashes on both sides of Mount
Carmel.

"You don't recall there being an unusual condition where the sun was blocked
from the front of Mount Carmel but shone on the back, do you?" Caddell asked.

After wrangling, which involved Justice Department attorneys, the FLIR
operator answered, "I still think it's glint."

One of the pilots of Night Stalker, the plane carrying the FLIR camera, also
told Caddell that he believes the flashes seen on the Mount Carmel FLIR tape
were caused by glint.

"There are certain things that the FLIR tape picks up that can't be
explained," said the pilot, a co-pilot when Night Stalker flew during the
morning of April 19, 1993. "I think it's often referred to as glint. It's an
unexplained phenomenon that appears on a FLIR tape primarily in the daytime."

Caddell showed the pilot a condensed version of the Mount Carmel FLIR tape
highlighting the flashes, according to the deposition. One involved a flash
seen to the left of a Combat Engineering Vehicle (CEV) on the back of the
compound.

"I would call that a glint," the pilot said.

"And how did we distinguish between a glint and something else?" Caddell
asked. "Is it a glint when it might have otherwise been gunfire from an FBI
agent?"

The pilot later explained his reasoning.

"In my opinion, I do not believe that there was an individual on that tank
firing a weapon," the pilot said. "Therefore, the fact the flash occurs is an
unexplained anomaly."

Caddell pointed out that Carlos Ghigliotti, an expert in thermal imaging and
videotape, told The Washington Post that he believes FBI agents fired shots
on April 19, 1993. Ghigliotti is one of the FLIR experts working for the
congressional committee investigating Mount Carmel.

However, FBI agent No. 7, who rode inside CEV2 on the final day of the siege,
was among the FBI employees not agreeing with Ghigliotti's conclusion.

"I have no idea what may or may not cause flashes on this video, but if you
are asking about the flashes that came from directly behind my CEV, I believe
I would be aware if there had been anything back there," the agent said. "And
I saw nothing but ground and junk."

Another FBI employee, a Night Stalker pilot, said the FLIR camera wasn't
designed to pick up small arms fire.

"The type of FLIR utilized, the collimation of the FLIR in relation to the
gunfire, distances involved, and other parameters would lead me to believe
this is not gunfire, based on what I know," said the pi

[CTRL] [6] Drug War/Covert Money, Power & Policy - Propaganda

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://www.drugwar.com/propaganda.htm
Drug War  - Covert Money, Power & Policy
670 Page Paperback, 350 Illustrations, Sewn Binding, Not Yet Published
 http://www.drugwar.com/propaganda.htm">http://www.drugwar.com/propag
anda.htm
-
Illustrated Summaries of Much Longer Chapters
Drug War
Covert Money, Power & Policy

Propaganda

Prohibition is about economic and military power, not health. It was the
geopolitical utility of medical monopoly that saw it come to pass. The
Harrison Act was conceived in China, at the 1909 Shanghai Opium Commission,
the idea being that America should pass a model "no license" law it could
then ask other nations to adopt. President Roosevelt had arbitrated the end
of the Russo-Japanese War only to observe Russia and Japan dividing
Manchuria, Mongolia and Korea between them. With China beginning to
industrialize on a massive scale, all the imperial powers were delighted to
have a "pro-Chinese" issue they could sell while competing for China.
America, with never more than 2500 troops in China, had the weakest military
position, and so led the fight for an "open door" and an end to the opium
trade. The Chinese leadership had grown to hate opium because the British
controlled the nationwide trade, and had used it as a lever to control China.
Industrialization, however, with its mills, mines and railroads, had created
different stakes. For America, Chinese cooperation in the industrial
competition was essential. The weaker the British position, the stronger the
U.S.  The Chinese government encouraged groups like the Foochow Anti-opium
Society, below, to express their politically correct feelings for the foreign
press.

Wright criminalized "nonmedical" use of "opium or coca leaves or any
compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, or preparation thereof." Wiley's
unempirical equation of herbs and alkaloids had already achieved the status
of legal precedent. Lobbying Congress in 1910 for his new bill, Wright
fretted about cocaine's "encouragement among the humbler ranks of the Negro
population in the Southit has been authoritatively stated that cocaine is
often the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the Negroes of the South
and other sections of the country." Here you have the geopolitical, the
economic utility of racism. Wright wrote the editor of the Louisville Journal
Courier that "a strong editorial from you on the abuse of cocaine in the
South would do a great deal of good - do not quote me or the Department of
State."

Wright wrote Bishop Brent, his fellow delegate to the Shanghai Opium
Commission, that the new Secretary of State Knox was "only now grasping the
fact that in this opium business he has the oil to smooth any troubled waters
he may meet with at Peking in his aggressive business enterprises there." The
other delegate, future President William Howard Taft, the inventor of "dollar
diplomacy," likewise worried about "one of the greatest commercial prizes in
the worldthe trade with the 400,000,000 Chinese."
America's "aggressive business enterprises" were challenged head-on by
anti-prohibitionist Eugene Debs, leader of the powerful American Railway
Union. Debs' moderate, libertarian Socialist Party was the electoral umbrella
for scores of left-wing groups, including the industrial workers in the
Northeast; German and Scandinavian enclaves in the upper Midwest; the radical
populists of the Great Plains; Big Bill Haywood's tough miners and
lumberjacks in the Western Federation of Miners - core group of the IWW;
Margaret D. Robins' National Women's Trade Union League, and Alice Paul's
direct action National Woman's Party - the radical spearhead that actually
forced through woman suffrage.

It was their ideas of the minimum wage, social security and unemployment
insurance that helped stabilize capitalism during the Great Depression. And
it was Lippmann who warned that "the manufacture of consent" by the corporate
owners of the media was a deadly threat to real democracy. As corporate
hit-man Edward Bernays, "the father of public relations" put it, in 1928, in
Propaganda: "The con scious and intelligent manipulation of the organized
habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic
society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an
invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country…it is the
intelligent minorities which need to make use of propaganda continuously and
systemically."
Propaganda during these years meant William Randolph Hearst, who owned the
most powerful chain of yellow journals in the country. Hearst built its core
circulation, the Chicago Examiner, using Moe Annenberg's gunsels to hijack
delivery trucks, bomb newsstands and attack newsboys. Hearst literally fought
for circulation city by city.
In 1910 Annenberg branched out for himself in Milwaukee, although the
connection to Hearst remained. By the mid-twenties Annenberg ow

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3

[Ric Carter]

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 -Cui Bono?-

SkeptiNews 000125c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No naked goddesses were harmed during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Inside the Male Brain: http://www.starteasy.com/~icards/mbrain/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# CORRECTED URL for: World Pagan Leaders Call for Papal Apology -- sorry:
  http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0124-139.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Controversial statue to stay. SEATTLE (AP) A bronze statue of a squat-
  ting, naked, dreadlocked Venus will stay right where she is, in the
  city's oldest and largest community garden. The garden paid $6,300 for
  the statue, which was so reviled that it was periodically covered with
  garbage bags. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563596112-3fd

# Nuns: U.S. has taken up our cause. With God and Clinton, how can we lose?
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563598226-51f
# Can Lady Luck Save Imperiled Casino? RENO, Nev. (Reuters) Can Lady Luck
  save one of Nevada's most historic casinos from getting blown to bits?
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/000125/09/odd-life-casino

: Who's your favorite goddess? D'ya prefer Venus, Lady Luck, St.Mary, Isis,
Juno, Hera, Tlazolteotl, Kali, Lady Liberty, Garelamaisama, Coatlique? Does
she bring you luck, happiness, fertility, wealth, measles, fleas, tomatoes?
Is your goddess naked, squatting, dreadlocked? Is she fiery, elegant, robed?

@ Blessed Virgin Mary: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm
@ Children of Mary: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03659d.htm
@ Devotion to Mary: http://newadvent.org/cathen/15459a.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# U.S. Aid Is Diverted to Germ Warfare, Russian Scientists Say. Some of the
  American money awarded to support Russia's civilian biological research
  was secretly shifted to Biopreparat, a shadowy organization that once
  directed the USSR's germ warfare program, several Russian scientists say.
  http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/012500russia-us-germ.html

# Ex-spy testifies on Russ espionage, purported weapon stashes. LOS ANGELES
  (AP) -- Denying he is trying to "create paranoia and a new Cold War," Rep.
  Dan Burton held a hearing on Russian espionage with an ex-spy testifying
  & a congressional colleague displaying a mockup of a briefcase-size nuke,
  Trust me: http://www.sacbee.com/news/calreport/calrep_story.cgi?N206.HTML
# XSpy Fears Sneak Russ Attack: www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/1/25/70247

: What's your favorite weapons system? Have you deployed it? Will your foes
be totally vanquished? Do the voices in your head tell you how to proceed?
Would you rather use nuclear/biological/chemical weapons, conventional arms,
swords/maces/spears/morningstars, cyber virus/worms, counterfeit currency??

# U.S. Probes Internet Access of Los Alamos Computer:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2124/ts/china_usa_2.html
# Japan to Seek U.S. Help to Deal With Hackers - Govt sites penetrated:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/000125/09/odd-hackers
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Greece won't ban Sea-Monkey sales. They were imported here only last year
  & sold under the name "Little Sea Souls." Leftist lawmaker Maria Damanaki
  last week called for a ban on Sea-Monkeys and insisted, "They should not
  be sold as toys." http://www.bergen.com:80/morenews/shrimp252125c.htm
# Pic: http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/greece/sea/monkey/2121/ny108

: Have you promulgated any little sea souls lately? Is it easier than using
big souls, land/air souls, alien souls? D'ya enjoy exploiting brine shrimp?
Would you like to genetically modify Sea Monkeys for the benefit/detriment
of humanity? Have you already done so? Are we doomed? How long do we have?

# Radical Greens Claim University Arson - Targeting Plant Genetics Work:
 http://apbnews.com/newscenter/breakingnews/2000/01/24/michigan0124_01.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Excursion. The travel industry prides itself on having something for
  everybody. Consider these "special interest" tours:
  $ Beyond Boundaries, based in Rainbow, Texas, offers destination-based
 trips to study UFOs, extraterrestrials or the Bermuda Triangle.
 Info: 800-259-8747, or at www.beyondboundaries.org.
  $ Roswell UFO Tours offers day tours of sites such as Hangar 84 and
 Ballard Funeral Home, pertinent to the 1947 crash. Based in Roswell,
 N.M.  Info: 505-622-0628, or at www.ufotours.com.
  $ Always wanted to chase a tornado? Tornado Alley Safari offers 8-day
 trips, departing Oklahoma City, for $900. Next tornado season is May.
 Info: 972-889-0196, or at http://members.tripod.com/StephenLevine
--from: http://www.phillynews.com/daily_news/2000/Jan/25/features/EBRF25.htm

[CTRL] online course in cyberlaw

[Yardbird]

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 -Cui Bono?-

at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/online
are descriptions and an application for
_free_ online courses from the Berkman
Center at Harvard Law School.

"Intellectual Property in Cyberspace" is
being taught by Prof. William T. Fisher III
of Harvard Law School.  You can choose to
audit the course, or if you have about
six hours a week to devote to it, you can
join a seminar that requires writing and
discussion.  All resources are provided
and there are no prerequisites, except that
if you wish CLE credit as a lawyer you pay
a modest fee.  Enrollment is limited,
especially in the seminars, so hurry.

The Berkman Center provides other interesting
courses online, such as "Violence Against
Women" and "The Homeric Odyssey and the
Cultivation of Justice." This is the third year
of the Berkman Center's online courses, and
a wonderful use of computers and the Internet,
IMHO.  Hope to encounter you there!

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Re: [CTRL] Threats from NewsChicken(tm) regarding Pine Ridge campaign of lies

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Guys - Newshawk is not the enemy...Alfred
=
Subj:Extraordinary Radar Anomalies Intensify @ Pine Ridge
Date:   00-01-25 00:47:59 EST
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NewsHawk Inc.)
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1.24.0
Extraordinary Radar Anomalies Continue, Intensify At Pine Ridge


We'll let Mr. Kent of CyberspaceOrbit tell it like it is. I will
interject this however: Kent Steadman is very knowledgeable about this
type of anomalous phenomenon. And if he says he's "never seen a series
like this anywhere, anytime" he knows whereof he speaks, hombres.



NewsHawk® Inc.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Subject: Re: Pine Ridge Radar Pulses: Another, the Medicine Wheel
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:49:18 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Have another radar "spoked wheel:" this is getting profound.  Whatever
the
debate concerning theory of radar anomalies--from the observer's
standpoint I
have never seen a series like this anywhere, anytime.


1/24/00 8:00 PM EST
Collection:
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html
Specifically:
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/1-23pr3sm.gif

Another thing, I'm looking at the Bighorn Medicine Wheel, one of several
up
in the North-central and Western, USA.  I wonder if the ancients were
trying
to tell us something about the way the EM or etheric fields work up there?


Medicine Wheel:
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html
Specifically:
http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/project/wheelcol2.jpg

Kent Steadman
ORBIT
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html


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[CTRL] ECTV:The Third Secret Of Fatima Revealed?

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The Third Secret Of Fatima Revealed?...01/25/00
by Mitch Battros  (ECTV)

What I am about to tell you may shock you, or it may leave you with a
feeling of exhilaration. I have no doubt it will send a chilling shock
wave through some in our society and perhaps that of other countries.
For others, it is a time of celebration. I urge you to take caution with
this content and remember what I have said all along..."Follow Your
Truth, Not Mine Or Anyone Else". Seek And You Shall Find.   Find What?
Your Truth!

I have wrestled with the idea of... if...when...and how...to disclose
the information that has been bestowed upon me. I cannot tell you how
humbled I feel, and I must say somewhat fearful. I want to present this
in the most honored, respectful and selfless
way. I cannot deny the turning of events that have occurred over the
last few weeks have given gravity to my motivation.  My decision in
part, is related to the "secret meeting" between NASA and Russian space
experts. I have come to the conclusion,  now is the time for disclosure.

I have received information from someone who is somehow close to the
Vatican. The less I know, the better. He has pleaded to remain anonymous
for fear of being thrown out of the clergy. He came to me because he was
aware of my request of information from the Vatican over a year ago,
asking for information on the "Third Letter of Fatima". What I received
back was more than I had hoped for.

I re-posted this letter last month:
http://www.earthchangesTV.com/breaking/December/1224fatima.htm

Again, I want to reiterate, I believe all science, and in this case
prophecy, should be held to the test of "subject conjecture" and should
be seen as an interpretation of material. Having said this, I will
disclose what has been sent to me.

Over 30 years ago, Conchita of Garabandal said the "Warning" will happen
on a Thursday in April between the 8th & 16th of the month, within the
lifetime of Joey Lomangino (now 65) [and before the end of the century
according to many sources], on the feastday of a young martyr of the
Eucharist & on the day of a great event in the Church.

Our Lady of Emmitsburg Message states "...This is a rejuvenating time
but a time of cleansing from the ways of your self..."
This Jubilee year seems a perfect time...the Warning would be
04/13/2000. Mirjana of Medjugorge said her first secret, will not be
worldwide, but will nonetheless serve to "shake us up".  This "secret"
might concern some catastrophic event prior to the "Miracle" as
described at Garabandal (2nd secret?).  Seemingly, the first 3 secrets
and the Warning/Miracle must tie-in.

It has been prophesied John Paul II will be the last Pope before the end
of time (as we know it) or "transition"  is another specific and
spectacular promise made at Garabandal.  At the time of the apparitions
of Garabandal, Pope Paul VI was Pope.  Our Lady told the visionaries
that, including the present Pope, there would be only 3 Popes until the
end of time (the end of the Marian age, climaxing with the Miracle).

John Paul II, who despite all sorts of problems besetting the world and
his Church seems to be quite optimistic about the future. He has
repeatedly said that the Great Jubilee year will mark the beginning of a
"springtime for Christianity". But how can he be so optimistic and so
apparently certain of the future?

Since he is a deeply prayerful man - he opens his day with up to two
hours of individual prayer then celebrates Mass and prays throughout the
day - and he is Jesus' vicar on earth, so he is guided by the Holy
Spirit the source of his certainty may be supernatural in nature.

Further, if persistent 'rumors' that emanate from the Vatican are
correct,  he is also a visionary, purportedly receiving his own visions
of his beloved 'Markka' - the Blessed Virgin Mary. In addition, he has
read and evaluated Fatima's famous third Secret, yet to be revealed to
the world, and may also be guided by its contents.  In short, he has
guidance that no one else possesses - and he is optimistic!

Fatima's Third Secret appears to involve a supernatural event as
inadvertently disclosed by one of the few people alive who have read it
- Archbishop Loris Capovilla.  Moreover, the Pope has told his close
associates not to plan his 2001 calendar implying that he won't be alive
by then.

It is possible that he believes Fatima's Third Secret will come to
conclusion during the Great Jubilee celebration in the Catholic Church.
Year 2000

A star, the Asteroid , will illuminate the earth causing it to appear to
be surrounded by flames during a period of some twenty minutes, an event
which will spread panic everywhere...This will occur in the near future.
When the Asteroid lights up the earth making it appear that the whole
world is in flames, many people will wish to die at that shower of
fire...a fear which will in fact cause the death of many people; those
who are just and who believe 

Re: [CTRL] Chemtrails Flu / NSA / DARPA/ Unconventional Pathogen Countermeasure

[ThePiedPiper]

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 -Cui Bono?-

It seems as if many if not all things on Earth are the product of
bacteria
>From Silver possibally Gold ect.
some links here
http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/esevol2a.htm
bacteria that produces silver
Tuesday, 23 November, 1999, 13:14 GMT
  Bacteria with a silver lining
http://news2.thls.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid%5F533000/533416.stm

what happens when the silver that these bacteria make is compressed? or
heated through the ages?
What bacteria was there originally - like how did humans evolve?
*then what of oil
on 22 Dec 1999 This should be
http://www.the-times.co.uk/cgi-bin/BackIssue?1946312
* An extraordinary theory about the origins of life is causing
controversy, says Nigel Hawkes
** November 25 1998 "MIND AND MATTER" -- Nigel Hawkes **
** Is this how life really began? **
This article refers to a Dr. Thomas Gold
This man has made a hypothosis that - oil is biogenic. Be this as it may
proof that bacteria live deep below the surface of the Earth. These
bacteria use chemical energy and have no need of photsynthesis.
I have this link on
http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_major.htm


Organophosphates and other things are killing these bacteria before they
can be found.

Some leaders are afraid of what they call Enviromentalist because of
what happened in the late 1700's.
"A more formidable undertaking was to replace Christianity by a religion
of nature."
http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_win1.htm
and have kept anyone from going down this road.

What they are doing is irrisponsable from a scientific viewpoint.
The Pied Piper

Dave wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Regarding Darpa  Unconventional Pathogen Countermeasure program:
>
> Dr. Baker's research is now being tested in atmospheric release, according
> to sources.
>
> Key researcher:James R. Baker Jr., M.D., <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Key words of current research interest:
> - gene transfer
> - autoimmunity
> - biologic weapons
>
> Description of research:
> Autoimmune endocrine disease. Gene transfer using a synthetic polymer.
> Development of pathogen countermeasures.
>
> Summary of current research:
> Dr. Baker has several research projects in progress. One is in the area of
> autoimmune endocrine disease and he has helped define the basis of the
> autoimmune response to thyroid autoantigens. In particular, his recent work
> has focused on epitope mapping of thyroid peroxidase, a major autoantigen in
> autoimmune thyroid disease. His laboratory has used molecular biologic
> techniques to identify the specific epitopes recognized in TPO and shown
> that the recogition of this autoantigen is heterogeneous in different
> individuals. He is currently exploring the genetic basis of this
> recognition. Furthermore, Dr. Baker is investigating the regulation of
> programmed cell death pathways in the thyroid and how they may prevent the
> development of thyroiditis by protecting thyroid cells from immune mediated
> apoptosis. For more information on Thyroid Autoimmunity and Cancer
>
> Another major interest of Dr. Baker focuses on preventing pathogens from
> entering the human body, which is a major goal in the development of counter
> measures to Biological Warfare. This research project seeks to develop a
> composite material that will serve as a pathogen avoidance barrier and
> post-exposure therapeutic agent to be applied in a topical manner to the
> skin and mucous membranes. The composite is modelled after the immune system
> in that it involves redundant, non-specific and specific forms of pathogen
> defense and inactivation. For more information on Pathogen Counter Measures
>
> Dr. Baker has a special interest in dendritic polymers and their application
> to medical and biological science. He has co-developed a new vector system
> for gene transfer using synthetic polymers. These studies have produced
> striking results and have the potential to change the basis of gene transfer
> therapy. Dendrimers are nanometer-sized water-soluble polymers that can be
> conjugated to peptides or carbohydrates to act as decoy molecules to inhibit
> the binding of toxins and viruses to cells. They can also complex and
> stabilize genetic material for prolonged periods of time. Dr. Baker's group
> has extensive experience with dendrimers and has demonstrated that
> dendrimers can transfect epithelial cells. For more information on Dendritic
> Polymers in Biology
>
> The site Dan listed  http://www.darpa.mil/DSO/rd/UPC/index.html returns 404
> error, not found. Has anyone visited this site recently, and if so, have you
> saved information from the site, or can you retrieve it from your cache?
> (just try connecting to the site).
>
> Hotbot lists this, site which returns 404 not found.
> Unconventional Pathogen Countermeasures
> 1/8/00 http://www.arpa.mil/dso/rd/upc/0011_Lg.html
>
> This site http://www.state.sc.us/epd/emtools/hazard4.htm , State of South
> Caro

Re: [CTRL] 100 Best Non Fiction list of CounterPunch/Re: Valid Conspiracy Theory-Trotskyist Capitalists and Votescam/ Populism Grown Rancid

[ThePiedPiper]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

>From what I understand there is no limit to the number of TV or Radio
stations you can own.

They have also taken out the limit for campaign donations.
The Pied Piper

Michael Pugliese wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Chip writes:
> ...>The warnings of a "Zionist Occupational Government" popularized in
> the 1970s and 1980s by the Posse Comitatus, Christian Identity, Aryan
> Nations,
> and other Christian Patriot groups are the heirs to this premise.
>
> For those with too much time on their hands and/or a fascination with the
> far right I "recommend" tuning in via
> your Real Audio Player or WinAmp (better sound quality, sexier looking
> interface) to the broadcasts of the Rev. James Wickstrom in Pennsylvania who
> is a big Posse Comitatus figure. The last broadcast I listened to (they are
> archived natch) had the Ezra Pound buddy, Eustace Mullins from a few weeks
> ago.
> Mullins claimed he was the first to use the phrase "Zionist Occupation
> Government" in the early 1950's.
>  I've always wanted to read The Cantos of Pound, Mullins has a biography. He
> also has a # of books of which , "The Secrets Of The Federal Reserve, " gets
> cited often in these circles (and Mullins complained that
> bootleg editions are depriving him of residuals ) Even further out is the
> work of Richard Kelly Hoskins, very prolific, has his own vanity press, the
> Virginia Publishing Co. (???). Many works on currency manipulation, etc. and
> other staples of far right conspiracy theory circles. Buford Furrow, Jr. had
> a copy of his, "War Cycles, " book in his van after the San Fernando Valley
> Jewish Day Care Center shootings.
> As an aside, what does Chip or anyone else know about these folks that
> tout a book called, "Votescam, " that alleges a giant conspiracy involving
> all the TV networks, polling orgs., county registrar of voters, and probably
> Santa Claus too, in rigging elections here in the good ol' USA. I came
> across a site called Network America recently from these loons out of
> Wyoming I think that goes into great depth on this. Sorry to say it reminds
> me of lefties who take the "Manufacturing Consent" model way too far to
> explain away the failures
> of left-liberalism/pwoggieism electoral initiatives and races for elected
> office to get the at least the 50 % plus one needed to win from the
> electorate. Go to freereplic.com and you'll finf lots of folks who rail
> against what they see as a rigged game including everyone from the
> Conservative and Liberal Establishment to deny them the fruits of their
> victory. They really believe that all elections are stolen. I traded a few
> e-mails with an Arizona Patriot who knows Jack McLamb, the author of
> "Vampire Killer Police State 2000, " who ran for county sheriff outside of
> Phoenix, and, natch, after that "landslide" for McLamb started coming in the
> computer at the Registrar of Voters crashed.
>   Michael Pugliese
>
> "By the time I Get To Phoenix...
> Jack McLamb Will Be Sheriff.."
> Jimmy Webb lyric as rechannelled by a cokeaddicted
> Glen Campbell after they both join the Militia...
> (Yup, this ex-punk rocker loves his Glen Campbell Greatest Hits CD)
>
> Got so carried away almost forgot the URL for the Posse Comitatus. Here it
> is
> http://www.posse-comitatus.org/
> The Truth Exposed (11-15-99) w/special guest Eustace Mullins!!  This is
> another MUST listen to show!
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/paranoia-as-patriotism/
>
> http://www3.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/paranoia-as-patriotism/poss
> e-comitatus.html
>
> (and between following the David Irving/D. Lipstadt  trial over in Europe
> over Irving's "Holocaust Revisionist" claims, I'm getting my fill of these
> folks. http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/
>
> http://www.messiah.org/p17.htm
> Over at Lou's Marxism list see the thread on Evolutionary Psych and
> Anti-Semitism.
>
> http://www.marxmail.org/archives/Jan2000/index.html
>
>   Catch y'all later,
>   Michael Pugliese,
> On his way to find a copy of "The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion"
>
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:15:10 -0500 (EST)
> > Subject: [prj] [NA] Motive, Opportunity, Votefraud
> >
> > Rare Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts:
> http://a-albionic.com/search.html * Conspiracy Shopping Cart:
> http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html*Shop for Autos On-Line
> http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html*
> > ..
> >
> > Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
> > From: Jim Condit Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [NA] Motive, Opportunity, Votefraud
> > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 2:14 AM
> >
> > www.networkamerica.org
> >
> > "Those who 

[CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] What is Pine Ridge really all about?

[DIG alfred webre]

>From EWAR-l:
 =
 Kasten, Kathy wrote:
   (My favorite photo is
 > the bumper sticker saying "You are on Indian Land" pasted onto the
 > plastic
 > shield of the Nebraska State Trooper.)

 My IMHO view of what Pine Ridge is all about:
 1.  The latest is a 500 year pattern of White Oppression of First
 Nations.
 2.  The opening of a next Act of White Oppression of First Nations,
 known as the Bush Administration II.
 3.  A signal for future escalation of anti-population use of EMP weapons
 by Bush Administration II.  George W. Bush National Security Advisor has
 already made campaign statements promising expanded use
 of EMP weapons.  No other campaign has mentioned EMP weapons.
 4.  It is probable, but not certain, that Bush Administration II will in
 fact be elected to office, according to reliable forecasting technology.

 Comments welcome.  Alfred

 ps Newshawk is not the enemy.

 =




Kasten, Kathy wrote:
  (My favorite photo is
> the bumper sticker saying "You are on Indian Land" pasted onto the
> plastic
> shield of the Nebraska State Trooper.)

My IMHO view of what Pine Ridge is all about:
1.  The latest is a 500 year pattern of White Oppression of First
Nations.
2.  The opening of a next Act of White Oppression of First Nations,
known as the Bush Administration II.
3.  A signal for future escalation of anti-population use of EMP weapons
by Bush Administration II.  George W. Bush National Security Advisor has
already made campaign statements promising expanded use
of EMP weapons.  No other campaign has mentioned EMP weapons.
4.  It is probable, but not certain, that Bush Administration II will in
fact be elected to office, according to reliable forecasting technology.

Comments welcome.  Alfred

ps Newshawk is not the enemy.


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[CTRL] The Bush Family Body Count

[William Shannon]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Paul Wilcher
His partially decomposed body was found in his home still seated on the
toilet!! According to the Washington Times, "...he was
investigating the theory of an 'October Surprise' conspiracy during the 1980
federal election campaign. He had been
interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he
could secretly seek to delay the release of 52
American hostages in Iran."

Sid Adger
Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died
in 1996 of Unknown Causes. Mr. Adger was
the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to
help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by
recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard.

General James Rose
General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas
National Guard. He died of Unknown Causes
in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed.

Orlando Letelier
He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before
he was to testify about the Chilean dictator
Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that
there had been no Chilean involvement
whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W.
Bush if he would submit to questioning.
He refused.

Ronni Moffit
She was Letelier's assistant. He was giving her a ride to work when the bomb
exploded.

Amiram Nir
He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during
Iran
Contra. He went under the assumed name of
Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was
feared he would reveal the truth. He perished,
following the shooting-down of his aircraft with missiles from the helicopter
of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep
cover agent.

Senator John Tower
He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan
committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals.
He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents and knew
the
inside of the story. He was killed in an
uninvestigated airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his
daughter, Marian.

Mario Ruiz Massieu
An apparent suicide. He was facing charges that he laundered money for the
cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found
that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by drug cartels.

Steve Kangas
His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented
such a problem to the “real boss” of George
Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas’
past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor
bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an
apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific
writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with
him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly
before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going
to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun
control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to
Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was
sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was
thrown away.

Mohammed Zia al-huk
Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding,
and arming of narco-terrorists such as Osama bin
Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination,
his plane crashed into the ground with all
engines running. The Pakistani's kept the bodies around (in violation of
Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They
showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies. Why?.

Malcolm Baldridge
Commerce Secretary May 1987. Baldridge was familiar with the Bush family ties
to the Communist Chinese. He died in a
mysterious horseback riding accident.

Karla Faye Tucker
Executed in spite of enormous protest from the public, even those religious
groups that advocate the death penalty. Even Pat
Robertson thought that Karla was truly repentant and asked George W. Bush to
spare her life. The problem was that he would
have to spare the next woman in line – a black woman – if he spared a white
woman. Screw it, let them both die, right George?
Shortly afterward, in a Talk Magazine interview, this stalwart of the
Republican Party made fun of the woman whose death
warrant he had sanctioned. How compassionate! As of August 1999, George W.
Bush
signed his 93rd death warrant.

President John Fitzgerald Kennedy
An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputable businessman
named
George H. W. Bush reported hearsay
that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the president when
he came to Houston. The Young Republican was
nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J.
Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George
Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 ab

Re: [CTRL] 22 Million Members v. AOL: A Class Action Suit?

[Eagle 1]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

Thanks Kris for the babbling diatribe...
You're always so "kosher"...  and ALWAYS RIGHT,  aren't you?

LOL  - the one who is still smiling...   :-)

eagle 1

- Original Message -
From: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] 22 Million Members v. AOL: A Class Action Suit?


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Ma'am,
> Your answer to this email is very telling about your reading and
> comprehensive skills. Bill didn't have aproblem with his AOL account . He
was
> fowarding a missive about it. Also, I believe if you check the story about
> the guys moving to Brazil is a hoax. As to whether AOL is part and parcel
> intel it sure could be. I don't know. They don't control me.  And if I can
> wield a sword in the belly of the beast, I shall. So please try and really
> read something before going into your dualistic knee-jerk diatribes.
>
> Om
> k
>
> In a message dated 1/25/00 8:46:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >Bill,
> >You can't say you weren't warned.
>
> 
>
> >I hope you get your computer problems resolved...  but don't expect to
> >until
> >you choose to break free from the monopolizers
> -

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Re: [CTRL] One World Govt 10 regions.

[Robin Peters]

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 -Cui Bono?-

I happen to have En Route to Global Occupation, and I got the impression that
Kah was serving as a Christian spy of sorts to the WCPA meetings but could
not get the logistics worked out in time to be able to attend the planning
meetings.

Robin Peters

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Re: [CTRL] State of the Union speech boycotted by Rep. Schaffer

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 01/25/2000 8:03:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<   >>
 He may or may not be describing himself, but unfortunately it is a perfect
 description of our current president >>

I keep waiting for a real description of the violated women.  If this was
from the old line feminists who insisted that any sex between men and women
was rape, I could figure it out, but just because some woman snaps her thong
at a guy doesn't make him a violater.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] What is Pine Ridge really all about?

[nessie]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>
>Newshawk is not the enemy.

But is he being used by the enemy?

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[CTRL] Nessie Files

[nessie]

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 -Cui Bono?-

The new one's up. It's about AIDS as bio-war.

http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/

Feedback is encouraged as this mystery is far from solved.

Please direct feedback to altcity.com where there's a forum devoted to me
and my column. Altcity's still in beta so excuse our dust. You can log on
as "guest" or join and participate.  Join is better, IMO.

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Re: [CTRL] What it takes. 1

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Well, Owl, what do you think of Mr. Hurwitz?  Did you ever read "Silent
Spring"?  It's gotten so that almost all the seasons are silent now.  And
Rachel Carlson only had the nerve to publish when she knew she was dying.  I
heard someone from the Olin group badmouthing her on television a few years
ago.  He insisted that this woman had no credentials or education.  I can
hardly stand to think about what has been done to this poor earth in the last
fifty-five years, and I know my species is to blame.  Perhaps that's how it
is supposed to be.  The biggest pig at the trough gets it all.  I just can't
get comfortable with that idea.  If we were to husband the earth, we've done
a darned poor job.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Gun Owners On Offense As Congress Reconvenes

[lloyd]

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..

>From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
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Subject: Gun Owners On Offense As Congress Reconvenes
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 3:04 PM

FROM:   Gun Owners of America, INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATE:   1/21/00 6:33 PM

Re: Gun Owners On Offense As Congress Reconvenes


Congress Reconvenes Next Week
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When you order the Self-Defense Pak, you get three sets of postcards
(a total of 50) that help advance your Second Amendment right to
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1. Citizen's Self-Defense Act (H.R. 347). These postcards ask your
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citizens who use a gun in self-defense from anti-gun prosecutors and
judges, even if the gun was carried without a permit or possessed
without a license.  Bernie Goetz is, perhaps, the most famous
example of someone who was acquitted for using his gun in
self-defense, but still convicted for illegally carrying the
firearm. H.R. 347 would protect citizens like Goetz by giving
recourse in court if they are wronged by anti-gun or politically
motivated prosecutors.

2. Concealed Carry Reciprocity (H.R. 407).  You can always count on
Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) to take the no-compromise approach in defending
your gun rights. Of all the bills in Congress, H.R. 407 takes the
greatest strides toward restoring the 2nd Amendment right to "bear"
arms for ALL citizens. Other bills with similar goals don't even
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doesn't evaporate at the state line!

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in 1996 as part of the omnibus spending bill, the Lautenberg ban
disarms people for life -- for offenses that include pushing,
shoving or, in some cases, even yelling at a family member. The
language of this lifetime gun ban is so expansive that unsuspecting
parents have been disarmed for merely using legitimate corporal
punishment.  The Lautenberg ban is extremely dangerous as it, for
the first time in history, revokes Americans' Second Amendment gun
rights for mere misdemeanors.  Rep. Helen Chenoweth-Hage (R-ID) is
the author of this repeal bill -- a bill that would repeal the
entire ban, unlike other proposals in Congress which only repeal the
retroactive nature of the law.


ACTION: Call 1-800-417-1486 and simply choose option "4" to place
your order for the postcards.  Or go to
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you're using a phone or the web to place your order, make sure you
ask for the legislative Self-Defense Pak.  The Self-Defense Pak
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three postcards above. The sliding price scale goes as follows:

 * $6.00 for the first set of 50 postcards,
 * $10.00 for two sets (100 postcards),
 * $2.50 for each additional set of 50 postcards.

NOTE:  Go to GOA website at http://www.gunowners.org/106costb.htm to
see a current listing of those who have currently cosponsored the
above bills.  Also, if you are only interested in one or two of the
bills mentioned above, you can order those individual postcard sets
(in groups of 50).  Finally, you might notice that the RSA
certificate on the GOA secure server has expired -- as has that of
many others including giants like Amazon.com.  The G

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #4

[Ric Carter]

/www.globeandmail.com/gam/National/2124/UCHINN.html

: Are you a Chinese spy? Who do you really work for? What technologies have
you stolen lately? Would you rather steal secrets from Americans, Canadians,
Reptilioids, Tibetans? Are you so incapable of developing new technologies
yourself that you're compelled to steal them? Are you really stupid? Are we?

# China Says U.S.-Based Researcher Confesses Crimes:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2125/ts/china_usa_3.html
# Choose your superpower - Australia in dilemma over allying with U.S.
  versus China: http://www.afr.com.au/content/000125/news/news5.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Slash and Burn: A Lifestyle. (Wired) The pictures of people slicing up
  their bodies on a Toronto man's Web site could go in the Sick and Disgus-
  ting file, but it's a strong community for those who need to mod their
  bods. http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,33732,00.html?tw=wn2125

: What changes d'ya need to make to your body; to my body; to their bodies?
Are these changes for pleasure, punishment, necessity, communication, sex??

# Man Shot Dead at Calif Sikh Temple - Angry He Wasn't Allowed to Speak:
  http://www.apbnews.com/newscenter/breakingnews/2000/01/24/sikh0124_01.html
@ The Third Letter of Fatima: "The punishments predicted in the Third Secret
have already begun": www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/December/1224fatima.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Hack Takes Aim at AOL Clients. (Wired) A security breach in the sign-up
  process for AOL Instant Messenger allows hackers to open new accounts
  using the names of existing users. I am he as you are me and you are we:
  http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,33881,00.html?tw=wn2125

# Outpost Leaves Data Unguarded. (Wired) Outpost.com lets you track your
  orders online -- and everyone else's too. A security glitch leaves names,
  purchases, email, and shipping address exposed. Oops! Is our face red!!
  http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,33842,00.html?tw=wn2125

: Are your identities/data/self secure? Are you camouflaged as someone else?
Who? Are you really me? Am I really you? What do you know about my drugs??

# TAKING YOUR VITAL SIGNS ON THE ROAD. Imagine an implant that monitors your
  vital signs - and send the info to your doctor's office instantly. Sounds
  sci-fi, but this technology is coming - look for a prototype at the end of
  the year. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=26222
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

  "Televangelists: The Pro Wrestlers of religion." --anon

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* Fringes of: Science, Faith, Sex, Dope, Art, Paranormal, Conspiracy
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Dear Brigade,

"[T]he state party chair defended Buchanan and denied that the
presidential hopeful was antisemitic or a Holocaust revisionist. Most of
the statements Buchanan made that seemed to take such stands were
misconstrued, he said ...  "He's very well read and well educated," Goodman
said. "What I find distasteful is when the media takes things out of context.
It's done to tear apart somebody who is not part of the establishment..."

GO PAT GO!!!
Linda



The Jerusalem Post - January 24, 2000

Jewish head of NJ Reform Party defends Buchanan's policies
by Enid Weiss, New Jersey Jewish News

WHIPPANY, NJ - While Pat Buchanan is making national headlines as he
seeks the Reform Party nomination for president, New Jersey's Reform Party
chairman - a Jew from Mahwah - is trying to strengthen the local party
organization.

As head of the state party, Ira Goodman isn't endorsing candidates. Instead
he's trying to publicize his party and fill New Jersey ballots with Reform
candidates.

He won't say who they might be, only that he plans to field contenders for
the Senate and the House of Representatives and New Jersey Senate and
Assembly seats. He's even talking to some people about entering municipal
elections.

During the party's first few years, voters adopted a wait and see approach,
Goodman said.

"Now people are starting to see who we are and they'll come along," he
asserted. "In 2000 you'll see a flood of candidates."

Ross Perot ran nationally for the presidency on an independent ticket in
1992 and garnered 19 million votes. That led to the formation of the Reform
Party in 1996 - but Perot won only 8.5 million votes as he ran again for
president on the party's ticket that year.

In New Jersey, Perot got about nine percent of the vote in 1996. That was
down from the 16 percent that had been cast for him in the state in '92.

Declining to say how many people belong to the Reform Party, Goodman
blames state Democrats and Republicans for "setting up major barriers,"
such as ballot petition challenges, that limit his party's success rate.

Goodman, a market research consultant, says that although Minnesota
Governor Jesse Ventura and Buchanan, the Reform Party's most politically
prominent members, may not be politically correct in their speech and
writing, they have attracted a lot of attention.

"It's gotten people to think," Goodman said. "As a result, we've seen our
membership grow, probably double."

Attention can be a key factor in a close race, said Ingrid Reed, director of
the
Eagleton New Jersey project at the Eagleton Institute of Politics at Rutgers
University, New Brunswick.

Reed added that although there are not many third- party candidates in
local contests, "Statewide our elections have been close. Three percent
can be a significant percentage in a close election."

To run on a Reform Party ticket in New Jersey, a potential candidate must
talk to Goodman, submit to an interview and then be approved by a
three-person committee.

According to Goodman, a lack of supporters may cost Pat Buchanan a line
on the ballot in New Jersey.

But the state party chair defended Buchanan and denied that the
presidential hopeful was antisemitic or a Holocaust revisionist. Most of
the statements Buchanan made that seemed to take such stands were
misconstrued, he said.

"He's very well read and well educated," Goodman said. "What I find
distasteful is when the media takes things out of context. It's done to
tear apart somebody who is not part of the establishment. Do I agree with
everything he says? No."

Buchanan does talk about a Jewish lobby in his books, Goodman said, "but
he talks about all lobby groups. If we're one nation we can't keep
splitting into separate groups."

BUT many people do see Buchanan as antisemitic. Abraham H. Foxman,
national director of the Anti-Defamation League, is one of them.

Foxman has said that Buchanan "promotes views that are decidedly racist,
antisemitic, isolationist and nativist. He is an outspoken Holocaust
revisionist. As an Israel- basher he seeks to undermine America's
longstanding ties to Israel, a strategic ally."

For example, Buchanan's book, The Great Betrayal, includes Holocaust
revisionist ideas, Foxman said.

Kidder defended Buchanan against charges of antisemitism, and she
defended the book as well.

"Pat Buchanan was giving a different historical perspective," Kidder said,
adding that Buchanan's perspective "was not antisemitic." If Germany and
the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had begun fighting earlier, Kidder
said, then, as Buchanan indicated in his book, "the death camps probably
wouldn't have happened."

Kidder explained how she would appeal to a Jewish voter who was concerned
about the antisemitic views that Buchanan or other Reform Party candidates
seem likely to share.

"I would tel

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http://www.Federalist.com

Date: 25 January 2000
Federalist #00-04.brf

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__O__
THIS WEEK'S FEATURE

Healing Hearts

Post-abortion trauma is an adverse emotional reaction to abortion. It
is often a delayed reaction and can surface at any time in a person's
life...and when it does, it can be confusing, painful and
overwhelming. If you have had an abortion and are hurting, your
feelings are normal. If someone you love has had an abortion and you
are feeling bad about it, you are not alone.

For information on post-abortion trauma,
Visit -- http://www.healinghearts.org/

For additional information through the Elliot Institute,
Visit -- http://www.afterabortion.org/


__O__
INSIGHT

"Abortion is Murder in the womb... A child is a gift from God. If you
do not want him, give him to me."  ++  "I feel the greatest destroyer
of peace today is abortion, because it is a direct killing of the
innocent child"  ++  "Please don't kill the child. I want the
child. I am willing to accept any child who would be aborted and to
give that child to a married couple who will love the child, and be
loved by the child."  -- Mother Teresa


__O__
THE GOOD NEWS

"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck,
and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these
little ones." (Luke 17:2)


__O__
FAITH IN BRIEF

"The teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our
whole civic and social life that it would be literally -- I do not
mean figuratively, I mean literally -- impossible for us to figure to
ourselves what life would be if these teachings were removed. We would
lose almost all the standards by which we now judge both public and
private morals; all the standards toward which we, with more or less
resolution, strive to raise ourselves." --Theodore Roosevelt


__O__
FAMILY IN BRIEF

"...[W]e have great cause for hope on this 27th anniversary of that
abominable decision [Roe v. Wade]. Abortions are in decline because
people are seeing abortion for what it really is.  If the justices on
the Court confront this evidence honestly, they too will have to
recognize the life in the womb and admit that Roe must be overturned.
And if the justices are just willing to open their eyes, we have a
wonderful picture to show them [of 21-weeks-from-conception Samuel
Armas, reaching his tiny hand to grasp his surgeon's finger during an
in utero operation]." --Charles Colson


__O__
OPINION IN BRIEF

"Liberalism began its long slide from high-mindedness to corruption
some time in the 1960s. Once it was a set of values intent on raising
human dignity, freedom, and prosperity. Today it is mere rhetoric
meant to disarm critics and maintain power over the gullible. But
those who intone the rhetoric want to feel morally good about
themselves so liberalism has become something more than windy
rhetoric. It is a free-floating moralism that, unguided by any
standards or norms, comes screaming out of the blue to assail some
choice target. The more defenseless the better. ... [M]odern
corruption of liberalism has drained practically every historic
liberal value of meaning. In its reckless moralizing it has reversed
itself on every liberal principle save one, the principle that has
since the corruption of liberalism been at the heart of this phony
political impulse, disturbing the peace. Disturbing the peace, whether
in the world of art or in the class room or simply out in the
neighborhoods, is what liberals can be counted on to do. Disturbing
the peace, of course, is a misdemeanor in every civilized criminal
code." --R. Emmett Tyrrell


__O__
POLITICAL FUTURES

"There is absolutely no question in my mind that whether Roe v. Wade
is preserved or scrapped depends on what happens in the next
presidential race.  I appointed two members to the Supreme Court. In
all probability, the next president will appoint more." --Bill Clinton
stumping for Al Gore.


__O__
IMAGO DEI!

IN THE IMAGE OF GOD!

In August of this year, we posted a remarkable photograph of little
Samuel Armas.  You may recall, Samuel was only 21 weeks in his
mother's womb when he underwent corrective micro-surgery for spina
bifida.  It was during surgery that he reached from the incision in
her womb, and grasped the fin

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Pat WINS Iowa !!!!!!!!!!

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Dear Linda:

Great News!  Pat won the Iowa Republican Caucus!   That's right!   George
Bush lost to conservatism!

Pat  will capture and coaless that vote in November!59% of Republicans in
Iowa voted against Bush.   59%!  That's our vote to split off the
Republicans!
As to the other half of the Republicrats,  Bradley got 35% against a sitting
incumbent all by himself!   That's fantastic.

The media is spinning Gore's "victory" as a triumph.   Excuse me, I see it as
a huge hole in Gore's armour.Bush will still win the GOP nod as
predetermined -- and the supporters of Forbes, Bauer, Keys and many of
McCain's will come over to Pat.These people voted tonight for a change.
Bush's 41% does not a mandate make!

And since McCain is the Republican candidate most similar to Bush in the
field, Bush may very well lose some percentage points to McCain in NH !
With a potential of 59% of Republicans, 35% of Democrats and then add in
all those independents across the country, I think Pat will do very well !

And Linda, I also think that even though the media tries to ignore Pat , your
web site has constantly reminded voters that Pat's campaign is growing
daily.!   And now, I see great a great opportunity for Pat in the Iowa
results.
Spread the word.   Go Pat Go !

All the best,
G. Grella
Hempstead, NY
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Republican Party at a Crossroads

By Chuck Baldwin

January 25, 2000


G. W. Bush may have the backing of Wall Street and the American media, but
capturing the hearts of conservatives and the attention of the English
press is Alan Keyes. His fiery oratory and uncompromising convictions are
resonating with voters in a way not seen since the days of Ronald Reagan.
There is more at stake here than meets the eye.

Alan Keyes offers Republicans an opportunity to repudiate business as
usual. He challenges the status quo and forces us to look beyond our pay
stubs. It is a classic substance versus style campaign.

While preaching fiscal conservatism and family values, the Republican Party
has largely been little more than a watered down version of the Democrats.
An attendee at the annual meeting of the Conservative Political Action
Conference was quoted by Conservative News Service as complaining, "They
(Republican leadership) need to stand for something, but all they care
about are their own jobs." The CNS article continues: "Are we Republicans
or are we conservatives?" That is the question this election is going to
answer.

A Washington Times story of two days ago reports, " Mr. Bush did not
mention abortion Saturday as he addressed voters at a rally in Davenport on
the 27th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade decision. The omission did not bother
Bill Irey, an orthopedic surgeon who lives in Davenport.

"’That’s low on my list,’ Mr. Irey said. ‘I think there’s a large number of
Republicans who look at that with interest but aren’t going to have that be
the determining factor.’

"Mr. Bush ‘well represents the core Republican values,’ Mr. Irey said."

That is not the question, however. The question is, does Mr. Bush represent
core conservative and constitutional values? It’s a question many
conservatives are asking. A recent Reuters article begins, "Self-described
conservative Pat Rice does not like Texas Gov. George W. Bush, sees nothing
in his agenda to recommend him and believes he’ll be ‘just the same-old,
same-old." Enter Alan Keyes.

Abortion, national sovereignty and traditional morality are high on his
list. They apparently are high on a lot of people’s list. Many of us
recognize that America cannot continue to ignore and impugn the fundamental
values upon which our nation was built. A prosperous economy can evaporate
overnight. There comes a time in the life of a decaying society when only
commitment to fundamental principle offers any hope. That time has come for
the United States.

The Republican Party is a microcosm of America. Both are at a crossroads.
We will either choose the path of pragmatism or principle. Choose well. It
might be the last real choice that we will have.



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Several key American congressmen are on board of the Aristide Foundation.
Look at its website.  ."Click on"  "What is the
Aristide Foundation for Democracy" to see
influential people who could be smeared by a successful criminal
investigation. Haitians believe some received cash.  Aristide, who
renounced his priestly Vows of Poverty in October, 1990 is now worth one
billion dollars.

Customs and DEA officials say Haiti's cocaine business is controlled by
Aristide yet no newspaper or elected representative comments upon this.
U.S. Attorney in Miami has more evidence against Aristide than was required
to extradite Noriega!!

President Clinton's brother-in-law is involved with Aristide's wife in
control of Haiti's cellular phone business. Immediately after the Clinton
invasion, in 1994, Hugh Rodham made a fortune shipping cars to Haiti, duty
free. Aristide's hand was in this.

January 13, 2000 two French tourists, along with their Haitian guide, were
killed in Jacmel They were chopped up with machetes. In Port-au-Prince four
men were "necklaced" on Autoroute Delmas, one of the main streetsand
the media reports nothing!!!

Haiti could well erupt into a major presidential campaign subject within
the next few weeks.
==
ARTICLE 4
~~~
Green Ammo II

This piece appeared in the Washington Times on 14 January 2000.
Killing with a heart for the environment!  The Pentagon's latest in
reducing our ability to kill enemy armor in the future.  Combine this with
the Army's move to go it light, and you are back to the days when our
troops were fighting T34 tanks in Korea with 2.36 in bazookas. I though
they promised NOT to forget TF Smith!

By Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough
(both are national security reporters for The Washington Times)

Tree huggers at the Pentagon are at it again. We reported several weeks ago
how the Army ordered a massive program to replace the lead in millions of
5.56 mm bullets -- those fired by standard issue M-16 rifles -- with
tungsten filler.

Now the Army is expanding its politically correct "Green Ammo'' program
even further. Army Undersecretary Bernard Rostker directed the Army
recently to consider filling all 120 mm tank rounds with tungsten instead
of depleted uranium. Apparently, depleted uranium used in the tank-busting,
armor-piercing shells is an environmental hazard, according to the
Pentagon's environmental police.

If the conversion is approved, however, there are serious drawbacks. The
tungsten shells will have less range than those containing depleted
uranium, thus nullifying a key advantage for U.S. ground forces. During the
1991 Persian Gulf war, depleted uranium tank shells gave U.S. forces a
decisive advantage over Iraqi tanks. That advantage could be lost under the
conversion plan for an environmentally safe battlefield.

We're told by officials who oppose the idea that in addition to the
decreased range, tungsten-filled tank rounds also pose another national
security risk, one we highlighted earlier: The United States has no
reserves of the material and currently has to buy what it uses from China.

Expect members of the Senate Armed Services Committee to question Mr.
Rostker about putting environmental concerns before war-fighting skills
when he appears later this year before the panel.

The Pentagon announced yesterday that Defense Secretary William S. Cohen is
recommending Mr.Rostker for the post of undersecretary of defense for
personnel and readiness, the top policy-maker in charge of making sure U.S.
troops can do their job: fight and win the nation's wars, whether
environmentally safe or not.


===
ARTICLE 5
~~
Zero Defects - A Defect Itself
~~
The older generation HAS to share lessons learned so the younger generation
can learn more without having to make the same errors.  That's how we grow.
Unfortunately, Zero Defects is alive and well in today's military -
stifling growth and pushing young leaders to pursue careers on the outside.
*
By M. M. Dupré

 "Zero Defects" first became an Army-wide policy in the early 1960s as an
outgrowth of the philosophy at IBM.  As a goal, it was a wonderful idea to
strive for perfection, make no dumb errors, to do no stupid things.  The
execution of that ideal became a nightmare.

A number of budding careers were ruined by simple, honest mistakes made in
training and peacetime administration.  Unfortunately, the same thing is
happening again.

A part of the informal education process for any young troop is finding out
what works and what doesn't.  Junior leaders have t

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As you can see, I agree with most of your comments.  My complaint to you is
that I wish writers, like you, who are so widely read and respected would
point out that Career Level/Oriented and Entry Level are different and have
different mind sets.  These young girls are being allowed to get away with
their antics because Senior males still believe that it is their job to
"take care of" the women of the world.  They are so far off base it is
frustrating.  When a woman signs a contract to belong to the finest
military in the world she sets aside her femininity from 0730-1630 daily.
She deploys when ordered, and she complies with the grooming regulations of
her Service.  There are no questions.  If a male did not obey these orders
he would be charged with Article 92 of the UCMJ.

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MEDAL OF HONOR ARTICLE 8
~~
A piece of education for many of us.  Yes, the Coast Guard had Medal of
Honor recipients. They operated Higgins landing craft and cleared sea
emplaced mines among many other perilous missions.

~
*MUNRO, DOUGLAS ALBERT
~
Rank and organization: Signalman First Class, U.S. Coast Guard Born: 11
October 1919, Vancouver, British Columbia.

Accredited to Washington. Citation: For extraordinary heroism and
conspicuous gallantry m action above and beyond the call of duty as Petty
Officer in Charge of a group of 24 Higgins boats, engaged in the evacuation
of a battalion of marines trapped by enemy Japanese forces at Point Cruz
Guadalcanal, on 27 September 1942.

After making preliminary plans for the evacuation of nearly 500 beleaguered
marines, Munro, under constant  strafing by enemy machineguns on the
island, and at great risk of his life, daringly led 5 of his small craft
toward the shore. As he closed the beach, he signaled the others to land,
and then in order to draw the enemy's fire and protect the heavily loaded
boats, he valiantly placed his craft with  its 2 small guns as a shield
between the beachhead and the Japanese.

When the perilous task of evacuation was nearly completed, Munro was
instantly killed by enemy fire, but his crew, 2 of whom were wounded,
carried on until the last boat had loaded and cleared the beach. By his
outstanding leadership, expert planning, and dauntless devotion to duty, he
and his courageous comrades undoubtedly saved the lives of many who
otherwise would have perished. He gallantly gave his life for his country.
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~~~
GI  HUMOR -   The Top 13 NATO Excuses for Bombing the Wrong Place

Ed.:  Hmmm…most likely fact.  Please don't write me!
**
NATO Headquarters, Brussels - unidentified sources

13. Just tryin' to impress the chicks.
12. NATO strategists were loathe to open maps of the area because
refolding them can be difficult and annoying.
11. "Kosovo?!  We though you said KOKOMO!"
10. Bombardier still pissed off about his Yugo.
9. Chinese embassy "just too shiny to ignore."
8. Pilot's ugly little secret: never COULD hit those womprats back home
in Beggar's Canyon.
7. Totally hammered after losing a game of "quarters" to Boris Yeltsin.
6. Canadian navigator busy extolling virtues of Celine Dion.
5. Pilot playing Kosovo bingo needed B5, not G2.
4. Forgot to adjust for weight of Slim Pickens.
3. Male pilots refused to stop and ask for directions.
2. General Magoo has no comment.
1. NATO headquarters dinner order for "take out Chinese" was grossly
misunderstood.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS   ARTICLES

Hack's Column:
In The Top Brass We Don't Trust 1
Z-"Flash":
Good Leadership, a Matter of Personal Contact   2

>From The Field:
Voodoo Politics-Haiti's Crisis Revives  3
Green Ammo II   4
Zero Defects - A Defect Itself  5
Consideration for Others vs. Combat Training6
Female Marine Response - We're not all Flakes   7

Medal of Honor: 8
Munro, Douglas Albert, USCG

G.I Humor:
The Top 13 NATO Excuses for Bombing the Wrong Place 9
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ARTICLE 1

IN THE TOP BRASS WE DON'T TRUST

DAVID H. HACKWORTH, 18 January 2000

Talk about taking flak!

In last week's column I wrote, "If Gore becomes the prez, I bet a six-pack
not one serving admiral or general will sell his or her soul for a chief's
job if it means going along with Gore's open-homosexuality-in-the-ranks
scenario."

Since this word went out, the troops have been shelling my position day and
night.

I haven't taken so much incoming since Admiral Boorda shot himself during a
Newsweek magazine probe into valor medals he claimed and wore -- an
investigation that was recently justified when a Naval board concluded he'd
never been authorized any awards for heroism.

The troops don't think their senior leaders will stand tall for anything.

A sergeant says, "How many times have you seen flag officers toe the party
line, saying all was well with the military, but once they'd retired,
change their tune. I've little faith that flag officers today will do the
right thing. They'll continue to protect their 'flagships' and take the
easy route to the detriment of our military."

A lieutenant says, "Every day I see senior leaders without a clue. I see
million-dollar buildings being built to house bloated staffs equipped with
every imaginable bell and whistle. I see our troopers bend over backward to
honor every visitor and potentate who decides to be seen with 'the troops.'
Those same troops get ignored by the brass and screwed over by all the
stupidity."

A lieutenant colonel wrote, "I watched my leaders' lips move and found they
were lying. ... I heard the CJCS (Chairman of the Joint Staffs) personally
tell me to my face the U.S. had no business in Bosnia past 12 months and
then, less than a month later, stand next to the president when the
deployment was extended. I read the classified CJCS' argument against
operations in Kosovo and then watched him stand mute as we bombed anyway."

A colonel says, "I have no faith in the senior leadership protecting us
from the fool policies and insane missions that the idiots at the top have
been jamming down our throats."

Two recent studies support what these folks and scores more have said
during this "Week of Friendly Fire." They both make a strong case that the
Indians interviewed plain don't trust their Chiefs.

Now, when Indians don't trust Chiefs, battles are lost. This was clearly
the case in Vietnam, where the term "fragging" was coined by the troops to
rid themselves of CO's they didn't trust because of incompetence or Custer
glory complexes. But obviously, the brass didn't get the message there, and
not only did they lose most of the battles, they lost the war.

It's actions like the following that cause those at the bottom to distrust
those at the top:

Air Force Capt. Debra J. Egan has been punished for writing a letter to the
military newspaper Stars and Stripes questioning the effectiveness of
anthrax inoculations being given to all U.S. troops. She expressed doubts
about the safety of the drug and complained that GI Joes and Jills weren't
getting the full word about the vaccine's "risks and possible side
effects." She was told by the brass hats just before they destroyed her
career, "It is your job to promote and support the decisions of your
superior officers regardless of your personal beliefs."

Army Sgt. David Gloer, who's been in Korea since 1994 on what's normally a
one-year tour, is caught in a Catch-22 nightmare and can't retire even
though he's done his time. Red tape and an uncaring chain of command all
the way to a supposedly kinder, gentler Pentagon keep torpedoing his pleas
to hang it up. Now, since complaining, he's been stuck in a flunky job from
which he continues to watch his connected superiors go home. "Rank has its
privileges," he says. "And a lot of double standards, too."

"Will the top brass res

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--- Eagle 1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> AOL USER:
> I'll second that motion to see the book "In God's Name" by David
> Yallop.
> For awhile,  several years,  as a matter of fact,  it was out of
> print...
> hmm?  Wonder why?
>
> Great information straight from members directly involved behind the
> scenes
> at the Vatican.
>

I'll third that motion. Wonder if it's available online.

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A Newsweek spokesman would only say the magazine is working on a
Turque excerpt to run "in the coming weeks."


New York Post-January 24, 2000

JOINT DECLARATION: AL TRIED TO COVER ‘POT'

By MAGGIE HABERMAN

A longtime friend who says he supplied pot "regularly" to Al Gore
now charges that the Democratic presidential hopeful leaned on
him to "stonewall" the press about their alleged dope-smoking
sessions.

John Wernecke, who worked with Gore at the Nashville Tennessean
newspaper, charges that during Gore's failed bid for the
Democratic presidential nomination in 1988, the candidate
pressured him to cover up how much he'd smoked pot in the past --
and how much he enjoyed it.

"He put the pressure on me to stonewall," Wernecke, 53, told the
online magazine Salon. "Al asked me not to tell the truth [to
reporters]."

And the former reporter and recovering alcoholic -- who says he's
now in a 12-step program -- hinted he can prove his story if the
Gore camp brands him a liar.

"If they make this a war of who is telling the truth, then I've
got things ... and I'll keep coming back with more and more
information," he said.

"He called me three times in one morning [during the 1988 race]
and he said, ‘Don't talk to the press at all about this,'"
Wernecke said. "That's a stonewall, and it's another form of
lying.

"The story I said was the opposite of truth. Because he and I
smoked pot every day for I don't know how long," Wernecke said.
"And he loved it."

In an earlier interview with the Web site stopthedrugwar.org,
Wernecke said, "I was [Gore's] regular supplier. I didn't deal
dope, I just gave it to him."

Gore spokesman Chris Lehane told The Post the veep "doesn't
remember ever having a conversation like that."

Lehane also repeated Gore's statement that "since he made the
decision to enter public office, he's never used [marijuana]."

Wernecke -- the son of John Carl Wernecke, who designed President
Kennedy's grave site -- now says he toked up with Gore until
1976, the year the veep first ran for Congress.

"I smoked with him right before he ran, and if my memory is
correct I smoked with him one time during the campaign," Wernecke
said.

Wernecke told Salon he's not speaking out because of a "vendetta"
against Gore.

"I've been living with this for years, and feeling horrible about
it," said Wernecke, who added, "I like Al. I'm going to vote for
him ... I think he's the best candidate of them all."

The dope imbroglio heated up on the eve of today's Iowa
presidential caucuses.

In 1987, Gore -- then a senator from Tennessee -- admitted
smoking pot on "infrequent and rare" occasions in the late 1960s
and early 1970s, and said he last smoked around 1972.

Wernecke's allegations surfaced in relation to a book about Gore
written by Newsweek reporter Bill Turque that reportedly features
the new pot claims. The magazine reportedly killed an excerpt
about the pot use.

A Newsweek spokesman would only say the magazine is working on a
Turque excerpt to run "in the coming weeks."


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[CTRL] Additions to the IPL Online Texts Collection 1-25-00

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The following is a list of items that were added to the Internet Public
Library's Online Texts Collection (http://www.ipl.org/reading/books/) on
January 25, 2000.

Azzole, Peter J. _Hell to Pay_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583487026
Dewey Subjects:
 813.087 American and Canadian Adventure Fiction
LC Subjects:
 Korean War, 1950-1953--Fiction

Blessington, John P. _Let My Children Work!_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583483799
Dewey Subjects:
 372.13 Methods of Instruction and Study in Elementary Education
 371.392 Montessori System
LC Subjects:
 Whitby School
 Montessori method of education
 Home and school

Braden, Richard P. _Reunions_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583486089
Dewey Subjects:
 813.083 American and Canadian Sociological, Psychological,
Realistic Fiction

Burg, Carole. _Inside the Nightmare_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=158348745X
Dewey Subjects:
 813.087 American and Canadian Adventure Fiction

Calderwood, David. _Revolutionary Language_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583485880
Dewey Subjects:
 813.087 American and Canadian Adventure Fiction
LC Subjects:
 Revolutionaries--Fiction

Clark, Floyd F. _Forbidden Happiness_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583485228
Dewey Subjects:
 813.085 American and Canadian Love and Romance Fiction
LC Subjects:
 Romance fiction, American

Cooper, James William. _Principles of Object-Oriented Programming in Java 1.1_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583482180
Dewey Subjects:
 5.133 Specific Programming Languages
LC Subjects:
 Object-oriented programming (Computer science)
 Java (Computer program language)

Dalton, Kathleen M. _A Portrait of a School: Coeducation at Andover_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583482962
Dewey Subjects:
 371.81 Attitudes and Behavior of the Student

Dell, Diana J. _A Saigon Party (And Other Vietnam War Short Stories)_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1893652904
Dewey Subjects:
 813.083 American and Canadian Sociological, Psychological,
Realistic Fiction
 813.01 American and Canadian Short Stories
LC Subjects:
 Vietnamese Conflict, 1961-1975--Fiction

Eisler, Riane Tennenhaus. _Dissolution: No-Fault Divorce, Marriage,
and the Future of Women_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583480293
Dewey Subjects:
 346.0166 Laws Relating to Divorce, Separation, Annulment
 346.015 Laws Relating to Domestic Relations (Family Law)
LC Subjects:
 Domestic relations--United States
 No-fault divorce--United States
 Women--Legal status, laws, etc.--United States

Farrow, Julie A. _Emergency!: Faith's Desire_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1893652122
Dewey Subjects:
 813.085 American and Canadian Love and Romance Fiction
LC Subjects:
 Romance fiction, American

Felsenfeld, Wayne. _Quintuplets_..
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583482938
Dewey Subjects:
 813.083 American and Canadian Sociological, Psychological,
Realistic Fiction
LC Subjects:
 Quintuplets--Fiction
 Multiple birth--Fiction

Genandt, Judy. _Half-Life_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=158348342X
Dewey Subjects:
 813.085 American and Canadian Love and Romance Fiction
LC Subjects:
 Romance fiction, American

Gilster, Ron. _Introduction to Information and Computer Literacy with
Microsoft Windows 95 and Microsoft Office 97_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=158348101X
Dewey Subjects:
 5.44 Operating Systems for Specific Types of Computers
 5.369 Specific Programs for Digital Microcomputers
LC Subjects:
 Microsoft Office
 Operating systems (Computers)
 Microsoft Windows (Computer file)

Goodman, Danny. _The Complete HyperCard 2.2 Handbook: Fourth Edition
(Volume 1)_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=0966551427
Dewey Subjects:
 5.265 Programming for Specific Microcomputers
 5.369 Specific Programs for Digital Microcomputers
LC Subjects:
 HyperCard (Computer file)
 Macintosh (Computer)--Programming

Goodman, Danny. _The Complete HyperCard 2.2 Handbook: Fourth Edition
(Volume 2)_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583480048
Dewey Subjects:
 5.265 Programming for Specific Microcomputers
 5.369 Specific Programs for Digital Microcomputers
LC Subjects:
 HyperCard (Computer file)
 Macintosh (Computer)--Programming

Goodman, Danny. _Danny Goodman's AppleScript Handbook: Second Edition_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=0966551419
Dewey Subjects:
 5.133 Specific Programming Languages
LC Subjects:
 AppleScript (Computer program language)

Harris, Judith. _Pearls for My Birthday: A Gift From Cancer_.
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=1583487395
Dewey Subjects:
 813.083 American and Canadian Socio

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Inside the Male Brain: http://www.starteasy.com/~icards/mbrain/


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Re: [CTRL] Freemasonry's Occult, Evil Empire Exposed

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http://www.top.net/cathcom/inGod'sname.htm
 
 
 
 
 
 




An Investigation Into Murder

In God's Name has been at the top of the bestseller lists all 
over the world. It contains some of the most explosive and dramatic revelations 
ever published about the internal affairs of the Vatican.
During the late evening of September 28 or the early morning of September 29, 
1978, Pope John Paul I, Albino Luciani, known as "the smiling Pope," died only 
thirty-three days after his election.
David Yallop began his investigations into this death at the request of 
certain individuals resident in Vatican City who were disturbed by a cover-up of 
the true circumstances surrounding the discovery of the Pope's body. It is 
his conviction that murder was the fate of Albino Luciani and he presents his 
evidence in this enthralling book.
Over three years continual and exhaustive research, David Yallop uncovered a 
chain of corruption that linked leading figures in financial, political, 
criminal and clerical circles around the world in a conspiracy of awesome 
proportions. To this day, a decade and one half after its first publication 
(1984), the central questions raised in In God's Name 
remain unanswered and the frightening accusations still undisputed.

In God's Name - $19.00 (U.S. currency only) + shipping and 
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  AOL USER:> I'll second that motion to see the book "In God's Name" by 
  David> Yallop.> For awhile,  several years,  as a 
  matter of fact,  it was out of> print...> hmm?  
  Wonder why?>> Great information straight from members directly 
  involved behind the> scenes> at the Vatican.>I'll 
  third that motion. Wonder if it's available online.Tenorlovetoo 
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[CTRL] [4] CIA Briefings of Presidential Candidates

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from:
http://www.odci.gov/csi/books/briefing/cia-7.htm
Click Here: http://www.odci.gov/csi/books/briefing/cia-7.htm">Chapter
 4 -- Nixon and Ford: Uneven Access
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Chapter 4




Nixon and Ford: Uneven Access

During his eight years as Vice President in the 1950s, Richard Nixon had had
broad exposure to the activities of the civilian US Intelligence Community.
He was aware that the CIA had briefed the presidential candidates in every
election since 1952 and undoubtedly harbored mixed feelings about the way the
process had worked in 1960, when his narrow defeat by John Kennedy might well
have hinged on the candidates' different perceptions of the intelligence
process. This familiarity with the Intelligence Community's capabilities and
practices made him willing, at the outset of his new campaign for the
presidency in 1968, to accept briefings from CIA Director Richard Helms. It
also led him to decline to receive routine briefings from lower level
officers, opening the way for Henry Kissinger, his National Security Adviser,
to play a central and expanding role.

Nixon won the Republican Party nomination on 8 August 1968. Two days later
the nominee and his running mate, Governor Spiro Agnew of Maryland, flew to
Texas to hear a "general review of the international situation" from outgoing
President Lyndon Johnson and his key foreign policy advisers. In addition to
the President, the group included Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Cyrus Vance
(the number-two negotiator in the Vietnam peace talks in Paris), and DCI
Helms. The President welcomed the Republican candidates with a tour of his
ranch in an open convertible, but when the time came for the substantive
briefing, he made only a few introductory remarks and then gave the floor to
the CIA Director.

Helms's memorandum for the record indicates that he focused on the handful of
international developments that were at a critical stage during the late
summer of 1968, including the confrontation between Czechoslovakia and the
Soviet Union, events in the Middle East, and the military situation in
Vietnam.[76] The Director also discussed Cuba, including Castro's support for
revolutionary efforts in Latin America, and events in the Dominican Republic
and Haiti. Following Helms's briefing, Vance continued with a review of
developments in the Paris peace negotiations that included details of the
private talks under way between the United States and North Vietnam.

Helms recorded that Nixon and Agnew were interested, in particular, in the
effects of the Soviet-Czechoslovak confrontation on Poland and Yugoslavia. He
also noted that they were surprised to hear that the North Vietnamese were
demanding that the Saigon government negotiate directly with the Communist
shadow administration in South Vietnam, the National Liberation Front. During
the course of the briefing, Nixon directed a number of policy questions to
Rusk. The Republican candidate made clear he had no intention of saying or
doing anything that would complicate the job of the US negotiators in Paris.

Looking back on his first briefing of candidate Nixon 25 years after the
fact, Helms recalled that, in his view, it was not a particularly
well-organized or useful session.[77] After his own 15-minute overview of key
worldwide developments, he recalled, the politicians' instincts took over for
the balance of the discussion in the sitting room at the LBJ ranch and during
the one-hour lunch that followed. Johnson was on a liquid diet, recovering
from a bout of diverticulitis, so he was free to do all the talking while the
others enjoyed a meal of steak and corn on the cob. Helms recalled with some
amusement that the President of five years and the candidate, with his eight
years of vice-presidential experience, each wanted to demonstrate to the
other his mastery of foreign affairs.

Nixon appears to have been pleased with the session; he later wrote
positively in his memoirs about the "full-scale intelligence briefings
ordered by Johnson for each of the nominees."[78] The session concluded with
the President's assurance to Nixon that he could call on Rusk or Helms for
any additional information he might require.

As it happened, the discussion in Texas on 10 August was the only briefing
Nixon was to receive in the preelection period. That session had focused
entirely on the facts of developments abroad and the status of negotiations
in which the United States was involved. Unlike the situation that had
developed in 1960, there was in the August briefing--and in the whole
campaign in 1968--no effort by anyone to make a political issue of the
Intelligence Community's programs or analysis. A key factor that helped
ensure that did not happen was Helms's strict constructionist view of the CIA
Director's job. He was determined to stick to the facts and avoid involvement
in policy discussions, 

Re: [CTRL] resources for survivors of abuse

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 -Cui Bono?-

Hi !

Below please find resources.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

Our listing these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement
of them. Resources mentioned in this resource list are mentioned for
educational value only. Using these resources may or may not help your
recovery process, so use caution when reading anything or contacting anyone
mentioned in this resource list.
May be triggering for survivors.

For info on psychotherapy, please see:
http://www.trauma-pages.com/pg4.htm#MH-Trt

Psychotherapy (links include):

Theories and Approaches in Psychotherapy
Michael Gournaris' summary of psychotherapeutic approaches covers their
concepts, contributions, limitations, etc.

Quality in Therapy
Richard Ebling's assorted ideas, links, tools, and references for providing
high quality therapy.

Creative Arts Therapies
Various creative arts therapies are described at this site, including music,
art, dance & poetry.

Art Therapy in Canada
This site focuses on Art Therapy, including trauma-related applications along
with other links.

Michael White
Website focusing on Michael White's Narrative Therapy approach, including
workshops and links.

Narrative Therapy
Describes Michael White's Narrative Therapy in context of other theroretical
approaches.

Silvan Tomkins Institute
The Tomkins Institute is dedicated to understanding human emotion, affect
theory, and related therapy approaches.

Non-Mainstream Psychotherapy Resources
Extensive listing of links to many non-traditional counseling, therapy, and
self-healing sites.


Excerpt from http://idealist.com/wounded_healer/wills.shtml

Copyright ©1996 by Sharon Wills, Ph.D., and Jean M. Goodwin, M.D.
Violence Recovery Program, University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, TX
77555-0428

Many people who have survived traumatic events often continue, even many
years later, to re-experience elements of the trauma whenever they are
confronted with situations in which they have emotional and physical feelings
similar to ones experienced during the traumatic event. Re-experiencing may
occur in a number of different ways, including unwanted thoughts and images,
distressing dreams or nightmares, flashbacks, panic attacks, and physical
complaints. It is easier to make sense of these experiences when you
understand how our brains process, store, and retrieve information under
normal circumstances and how trauma can disrupt this process.

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[CTRL] Jury Trial Nullification

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An example of the Britlanders' version of 'government for the government, by
the government, of the government' ... A<>E<>R


>From www.wsws.org

WSWS : News & Analysis : Europe : Britain
Blair government presses ahead with attack on right to jury trial in England
and Wales
By Julie Hyland
25 January 2000

Back to screen version

Prime Minister Tony Blair utilised a visit to an east London school on Friday
as an occasion to attack the "forces of conservatism and reaction" he claimed
were jeopardising his government's "radical" agenda.

His remarks were in response to the House of Lords voting down government plans
to restrict the right to trial by jury. In its heaviest defeat in the second
chamber, a cross-party alliance produced a vote of 222 to 126 against the
government's Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill.

The bill takes away the right of defendants in England and Wales to decide in
which court their case should be heard. It includes so-called "middle-ranking"
offences such as theft, possession of drugs, assault and actual bodily harm.
Some 280,000 of such cases are currently heard each year and can be tried
either before Magistrates or in Crown Court before a jury, based on the
defendant's preference. Approximately 20,000 people opt to appear before a
jury. The new bill would place the decision in Magistrates' hands.

Home Secretary Jack Straw presented the bill as an example of "modernising
reform". This deliberately misleading term has been employed repeatedly over
the last years to obscure the reactionary content of measures Labour is
introducing, particularly in social policy and the field of democratic rights.

Blair had made the Bill a central part of his pledge to be "tough on crime".
According to Labour's propaganda, jury trials are not a democratic right in
keeping with the principle "innocent until proven guilty", but a “soft option”
for criminals. The money presently expended on such trials being “wasted” on
providing such a "luxury", the government went on, could be better used to
employ more police officers.

In 1997, whilst still in opposition, Straw had described Tory plans to cut back
the right to a jury trial as "making the system less fair", which was "not only
wrong but short-sighted and likely to prove ineffective". Last Friday, he
explained, his volte-face was correct. "This is one of those issues where many
people at first blush take the view I did," he said. The real issue, he
continued, was to modernise the criminal justice system, "ensuring it is re-
balanced in favour of victims and witnesses as well as defendants".

The claim that current criminal procedure is biased in favour of defendants has
been the standard refrain of the political right generally and the Conservative
Party in particular, although this did not prevent the latter opportunistically
opposing Straw's Bill in the Lords. Labour has continued and strengthened much
of the oppressive “law-and-order” legislation first introduced under the Tory
government. Last week, an armed robber was given 22 life sentences at the Old
Bailey in London, under the "two strikes and you're out" rule. Introduced in
1997, the ruling means that those found guilty of a second violent or sexual
crime automatically receive a life sentence. On Monday, Labour defended its
predecessors' criminal legislation in a test case brought before the European
Court of Human Rights. The case relates to the Criminal Justice and Public
Order Act 1994, which diluted the right of suspects to remain silent by
allowing judges to draw adverse inferences from their refusal to speak.

Labour's draconian law-and-order offensive has brought it increasingly into
conflict with the legal profession and civil rights campaigners. The Bar
Council and the Law Society (professional bodies representing barristers,
solicitors and other legal practitioners), as well as civil rights
organisations, have condemned the new bill as an unwarranted attack on
democratic rights.

The impact, they warned, would be to further undermine public confidence in the
criminal justice system. Leading human rights and public law specialist David
Pannick said that under the new legislation, defendants facing serious charges
would be tried by people they saw as "representatives of the Establishment"
and, "rightly or wrongly, to be prejudiced against them or ignorant of their
personal circumstances". Some in the legal profession have pointed out that
ethnic minorities will be particularly hard hit by the government's proposals,
as black defendants are treated more equitably in jury trials. Far from saving
money, the new measures would increase the legal bill as defendants sought to
challenge magistrates' rulings on appeal.

Straw had venomously denounced such critics as "woolly Hampstead liberals",
motivated by self-interest. Echoing Straw, Blair said the Bill had been the
victim of "vested interests", most notably "the lawyers' trade u

[CTRL] NEW CLINTON FILEGATE QUESTIONING AUTHORIZED

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000
 Subj: NEW FILEGATE QUESTIONING AUTHORIZED

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 January 25, 2000
 Contact: Joe Giganti
 (202) 646-5172

 NEW FILEGATE QUESTIONING AUTHORIZED

 President Clinton Fails to Prevent Questioning of His Private
 Investigator

 New Eyewitness Also To Be Deposed: Witnessed White House
 Official Using FBI Files At Home


 (Washington, D.C.) Judicial Watch, who is representing those
 individuals whose FBI files were misused in Filegate, yesterday
 received permission in court orders to question both Bill and
 Hillary Clinton's private investigator and an eyewitness who
 saw a White House official using FBI files at home -- and
 loading them onto his laptop computer.  The new depositions
 come in the ongoing $90 million Filegate class action lawsuit
 filed against Hillary Clinton, the Clinton White House, the FBI
 and others.  The lawsuit is on behalf of those former Reagan
 and Bush staffers (and others) whose FBI files were improperly
 obtained by the Clinton White House.

 President Clinton had personally intervened in the Filegate
 lawsuit to try to prevent his private investigator Larry Potts,
 who once was a top official at the FBI, from answering
 questions about Potts and his investigative firm IGI's contacts
 with Bill and Hillary Clinton, James Carville, Sidney
 Blumenthal, and the FBI.  Bill Clinton also didn't want Potts
 to answer if he or his firm had received documents from White
 House files or from Linda Tripp's personnel file.  Clinton had
 tried to assert privileges to prevent answers to these and
 other questions, but these assertions were largely overruled in
 yesterday's court ruling.

 The Clinton White House and Mrs. Clinton had also tried to
 prevent the deposition of Leslie Gail Kennedy, the ex-wife of
 William Kennedy, a former lawyer with the Clinton White House.
 Kennedy had told Judicial Watch that she witnessed William
 Kennedy loading FBI files information onto a laptop computer on
 the kitchen table at their home.  Yesterday, the court gave
 Judicial Watch leave to depose Ms. Kennedy.  Linda Tripp had
 testified that Mr. Kennedy, who had been a law partner of
 Hillary Clinton at the Rose Law Firm, had the FBI files of
 Republicans in his White House office and was involved in the
 uploading of FBI files onto computers at the orders of Hillary
 Rodham Clinton.

 The Court rulings and other information on the Filegate case
 are available on the Judicial Watch Internet site at
 www.judicialwatch.org.

 To support Judicial Watch call 888-JWEthic or visit our website
 at www.JudicialWatch.org.


~~~

 http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/novak201.html


 Clintons still haunted by FBI files scandal

 January 20, 2000

 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

 Federal District Judge Royce C. Lamberth, a Reagan appointee
 who often has ruled against the Clinton administration, may be
 nearing two decisions of profound importance for the
 president's legacy and for the first lady's future.

 At issue is the most mysterious of the Clinton scandals:
 discovery at the White House of more than 900 secret FBI
 personnel files, including dossiers of prominent Republicans.
 For more than six months, Lamberth has had on his desk requests
 for sworn testimony by two people -- a former White House
 aide's ex-wife who claims Hillary Rodham Clinton was associated
 with the files affair, and Mrs. Clinton herself.  Lawyers
 familiar with Lamberth's court believe his decision is
 imminent.

 The judge has more to consider than one woman's unsubstantiated
 allegations.  Conservative Larry Klayman's Judicial Watch has
 collected at least 14 pieces of evidence in his class-action
 suit in behalf of people claiming exposure of their
 confidential files violated their privacy.  His evidence
 certainly does not prove Mrs. Clinton's complicity, but
 suggests this was more than the FBI blunder described by the
 White House.

 How could a sole controversial judicial activist uncover such
 material when special prosecutor Kenneth Starr in late 1998
 gave President Clinton a clean bill of health on the files
 scandal?  Sources close to Starr's investigation say the
 burdens of simultaneous prosecutions in Washington and Little
 Rock forced him to pick and choose.  Uninhibited by such
 demands, Klayman has ploughed ahead, collecting affidavits on
 a matter that even Republicans have abandoned, but Democrats
 consider the most dangerous of all Clinton improprieties.

 The most recent Judicial Watch affidavit was taken Jan. 7 from
 Deborah Perroy, a former National Security Council aide.  In
 1993, one evening after working hours, she said, "I came upon"
 her superior, NSC administrative director Robert Manzanares,
 and his assistant, Marcia Dimel, "looking through top-secret
 personnel background files" in the NSC's CIA liaison office --
 an off-limits area for them.

 Ass

Re: [CTRL] Republican Party at a Crossroads

[pennie hammons]

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I found it odd that Forbes was missing from this comparison of candidates.
With his strong second position in Iowa yesterday, I'd think people would be
taking a closer look at him. Forbes is the best chance this country has of
restoring our freedoms taken away in the last few decades. He knows what is
wrong with America and he has a realistic plan to change it. The
presidential elections has become more of a beauty pageant than any kind of
intelligent process.


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>Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!
>
>Republican Party at a Crossroads
>
>By Chuck Baldwin
>
>January 25, 2000
>
>
>G. W. Bush may have the backing of Wall Street and the American media, but
>capturing the hearts of conservatives and the attention of the English
>press is Alan Keyes. His fiery oratory and uncompromising convictions are
>resonating with voters in a way not seen since the days of Ronald Reagan.
>There is more at stake here than meets the eye.
>
>Alan Keyes offers Republicans an opportunity to repudiate business as
>usual. He challenges the status quo and forces us to look beyond our pay
>stubs. It is a classic substance versus style campaign.
>
>While preaching fiscal conservatism and family values, the Republican Party
>has largely been little more than a watered down version of the Democrats.
>An attendee at the annual meeting of the Conservative Political Action
>Conference was quoted by Conservative News Service as complaining, "They
>(Republican leadership) need to stand for something, but all they care
>about are their own jobs." The CNS article continues: "Are we Republicans
>or are we conservatives?" That is the question this election is going to
>answer.
>
>A Washington Times story of two days ago reports, " Mr. Bush did not
>mention abortion Saturday as he addressed voters at a rally in Davenport on
>the 27th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade decision. The omission did not bother
>Bill Irey, an orthopedic surgeon who lives in Davenport.
>
>"’That’s low on my list,’ Mr. Irey said. ‘I think there’s a large
>number of
>Republicans who look at that with interest but aren’t going to have that
>be
>the determining factor.’
>
>"Mr. Bush ‘well represents the core Republican values,’ Mr. Irey said."
>
>That is not the question, however. The question is, does Mr. Bush represent
>core conservative and constitutional values? It’s a question many
>conservatives are asking. A recent Reuters article begins, "Self-described
>conservative Pat Rice does not like Texas Gov. George W. Bush, sees nothing
>in his agenda to recommend him and believes he’ll be ‘just the
>same-old,
>same-old." Enter Alan Keyes.
>
>Abortion, national sovereignty and traditional morality are high on his
>list. They apparently are high on a lot of people’s list. Many of us
>recognize that America cannot continue to ignore and impugn the fundamental
>values upon which our nation was built. A prosperous economy can evaporate
>overnight. There comes a time in the life of a decaying society when only
>commitment to fundamental principle offers any hope. That time has come for
>the United States.
>
>The Republican Party is a microcosm of America. Both are at a crossroads.
>We will either choose the path of pragmatism or principle. Choose well. It
>might be the last real choice that we will have.
>
>
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>frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects
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[CTRL] The Biology Of Doom

[William Shannon]

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 -Cui Bono?-

22 January 2000
Source: Hardcopy The New York Times Book Review, January 23, 2000, p.22



--
--

Death Factories
A history of germ warfare and America's involvement in it.

THE BIOLOGY OF DOOM
The History of America's Secret Germ Warfare Project.
By Ed Regis.
259 pp. New York: Henry Holt & Company. $25.

By Timothy Naftali

Timothy Naftali is director of the Presidential Recordings Project at the
University of Virginia's Miller Center of Public Affairs. He is working on a
history of American counterespionage during World War II and the cold war.
THE impure salts that turned Dr. Henry Jekyll into Mr. Edward Hyde did not
prescribe themselves. In Robert Louis Stevenson's famous story, it is the
scientist and not science that is the villain. "Man is not truly one," the
doomed Jekyll lamented, "but truly two." Real-life Dr. Jekylls lurk in the
background of Ed Regis' "Biology of Doom: The History of America's Secret
Germ Warfare Project." The science behind biological warfare is the evil flip
side of the search for vaccines and cures. Military use of pathogens is as
old as human conflict. But it is in the 20th century that biological warfare
became an industry.

For once the Nazis are not primarily to blame. It was imperial Japan that
inspired the modern biological arms race. In 1938, Japanese scientists began
moving into Ping Fan, a walled city 20 miles south of Harbin in occupied
China. Within two years, the Anti-Epidemic Water Supply and Purification
Bureau, or Unit 731, employed 3,000 people at scores of laboratories. At Ping
Fan, Japanese scientists pioneered the mass production of pathogens and
worked on delivery mechanisms. By October 1940, Japanese planes dropped a
mixture of grains and fleas over Chinese towns, causing two major outbreaks
of bubonic plague south of Shanghai.

The British, concerned that whatever Tokyo could do Berlin could do better,
were the first to try to set up a biological warfare program of their own. In
December 1941 they acquired Gruinard Island in the Scottish highlands and
over the next few years dropped bombs filled with anthrax spores over the
heads of oblivious sheep, who then died as expected. As in many other areas
of modern national defense -- intelligence gathering, commando operations --
the Americans started behind the British, learned from them and because of
huge national resources ultimately surpassed them. But it was the cold war,
and fears of Soviet biological weapons, not World War II, that gave rise to
an American biological arsenal. And once again the Japanese played a
significant role. There were rumors that the scientists at Ping Fan had
experimented on human beings, and in 1947 the Soviets exerted pressure on the
United States to put them on trial. Maj. Gen. Shiro Ishii, whom American
intelligence had found living under an assumed name in Japan, finally
admitted his crimes.

In all, Unit 731 killed about 850 "patients." "The human subjects," one
American study later concluded "were used in exactly the same manner as other
experimental animals." The Japanese discovered, for instance, that if you put
10 people in a room infested with 20 plague-bearing fleas per square meter, 4
would die of plague. Anthrax had a better mortality rate (80 percent to 90
percent, Ishii said) but the plague diffused better. The most frightening
agent the Japanese tested was Songo fever, like Ebola, the star of "The Hot
Zone," a hemorrhagic fever.

"The Biology of Doom" is thought-provoking in spite of itself. Regis' goal
seems to be to disprove Soviet and Chinese claims that the United States used
biological weapons in the Korean War. In this he succeeds. As this
institutional history shows, the United States acquired an operational
biological weapons capacity only after the end of the Korean War. The United
States Air Force included a biological warfare annex to its plans for general
war as early as 1950; but until 1954, it did not have the refrigeration
capability, let alone enough of any kind of bug, to perform this feat
anywhere. The Army, meanwhile, completed its first biological production
plant only in December 1953. Nor has any researcher yet found tactical plans
for biological warfare in the Far East in the 1950's. In fact, Regis says,
there is no evidence of any American military use of biological weapons in
the cold war; work to perfect them continued until late 1969, when President
Richard Nixon ordered a halt.

Regis, the author of four previous books, including "Who Got Einstein's
Office?," understands the critical difference between plans and operations.
But in focusing on what the United States did not do in battle, he misses the
larger implications of his story. Shiro Ishii and his associates received
immunity from prosecution in return for giving the United States Army 15,000
slides of specimens from more than 500 human cases of di

[CTRL] Chief Prosecutor in Waco Resigns

[Linda Minor]

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 -Cui Bono?-

http://wire.ap.org/?PACKAGEID=fbi
JANUARY 25, 18:31 EST

Chief Prosecutor in Waco Resigns

By SUSAN PARROTT
Associated Press Writer

WACO, Texas (AP) — The federal prosecutor who warned Attorney General Janet
Reno of a possible government cover-up after the 1993 Branch Davidian siege
resigned Tuesday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Johnston, whose willingness to re-examine
evidence from the deadly standoff touched off a re-investigation of the
government's actions, handed in his resignation to his boss, U.S. Attorney
James Blagg in San Antonio.

Johnston, 40, acknowledged mounting frustration with Justice officials, whom
he called ``less than forthright.'' And he said his job had been awkward
ever since he wrote Reno last August.

``Any time you are at odds with someone who is your boss, it is difficult to
even have conversation. You just avoid one another,'' Johnston said Tuesday
during an interview with The Associated Press.

Johnston, the chief federal prosecutor in Waco, has been at odds with
Justice officials since he paved the way last year for independent
filmmakers to review evidence sifted from the charred ruins of the
Davidians' compound.

Filmmaker Michael McNulty's discovery of a spent pyrotechnic tear gas
canister forced the FBI to recant its longstanding denials that potentially
incendiary devices were fired on April 19, 1993, when Branch Davidian leader
David Koresh and about 80 followers died in a fire at their compound.

The FBI's about-face has triggered investigations by Congress and a special
counsel appointed by Reno.

Johnston's tension with his superiors was heightened in August, when he
wrote Reno that government lawyers had known for years about the use of
pyrotechnic tear-gas canisters, which were fired hours before the Davidians'
compound erupted in flames.

Ten days after he wrote the letter, Johnston was abruptly pulled from the
case, as was Blagg's entire office.

``I wasn't going to be a party to misleading the American public about this
issue, when I full well knew the import of it,'' Johnston told CBS' ''60
Minutes II'' in an interview airing Tuesday night. ``We cannot hide the
ball, in criminal or civil cases, and feel good about it.''

Johnston's resignation was lamented Tuesday on Capitol Hill, where
congressional committees are probing whether a government cover-up occurred
in the Waco operation's aftermath. They also are investigating the
military's role during the standoff and whether federal forces discharged
their weapons on April 19, 1993 — a contention strongly denied by federal
officials.

``We're sorry that there doesn't seem to be a place for good, hardworking,
honest public servants like Bill Johnston in this Justice Department,'' said
Mark Corallo, a spokesman for House Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan
Burton, R-Ind., who has been critical of Reno and the Justice Department.

Johnston's involvement in the Branch Davidian controversy dates to its
earliest days.

He helped draft the search warrant that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms attempted to execute on Feb. 28, 1993, in a botched raid that
sparked the 51-day standoff at the Davidians' retreat. Johnston later helped
convict nine Davidians during their criminal trial.

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[CTRL] FDIC Proposes Doubling Funding

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JANUARY 25, 19:39 EST

FDIC Proposes Doubling Funding

By MARCY GORDON
AP Business Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., concerned about its
biggest losses from bank failures since the early 1990s, is proposing a
doubling of the capital requirements for banks that specialize in risky
loans to people with inferior credit histories.

Regulators have warned that the higher-interest loans, called subprime
loans, can increase the risk of defaults for the deposit insurance fund.
They played a role in some of the eight U.S. bank failures last year. The
eight failures and another one in late 1998 cost the FDIC about $1 billion
last year — its biggest annual hit since the regional banking crises of the
early 1990s.

The failures, coming amid a booming economy, have worried regulators and
lawmakers. Compounding the concern, the FDIC is predicting that as many as
20 banks could go under this year.

Donna Tanoue, the FDIC chairwoman, floated the idea of increasing the
required capital for banks making a lot of higher-interest loans in a speech
last year.

``I believe thrifts and banks with high concentrations of subprime loans
should be required to hold more capital than the current rules now dictate.
A lot more,'' Ms. Tanoue told bankers.

Now, the FDIC has circulated a draft to the other federal banking agencies,
including the Federal Reserve and the Office of the Comptroller of the
Currency, which must all agree on a formal proposal to be put out for public
comment.

``We know that they have a proposal out there for discussion purposes,''
David Runkel, a spokesman for the House Banking Committee, said Tuesday.

Because of snowstorm-related federal government closures in Washington,
spokesmen for the FDIC and other banking agencies couldn't be reached for
comment on the proposal. It was first reported in Tuesday's editions of The
Wall Street Journal.

There has been disagreement over the FDIC's proposed definition of subprime
borrowers, The Journal reported. Critics of the proposal have maintained
that under the definition — borrowers who have made two payments 30 or more
days late or one payment 60 or more days late — many community banks that
lend to low- and moderate-income people would be adversely affected.

The proposal applies to all forms of consumer credit, including home
mortgages, credit cards, auto loans and personal loans.

The FDIC says it has found about 150 banks and thrifts with significantly
high levels of subprime loans. Together, those institutions hold about 5
percent of total banking industry assets.

The Banking Committee chairman, Rep. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, recently proposed
legislation that would give the head of the FDIC more authority over
troubled banks. His proposal was prompted by the failure last fall of First
National Bank of Keystone, a large bank based in Keystone, W.Va.

The estimated $750 million loss to the FDIC insurance fund caused by
Keystone's failure could make it one of the 10 most expensive ever in this
country. Federal regulators, who closed the bank in September, said they
found evidence of apparent fraud that resulted in the depletion of its
capital.

Leach has said there are indications the regulators may not have properly
supervised Keystone when it engaged in risky financial strategies, and that
the FDIC was stymied at key points by other federal banking agencies in its
desire to examine the bank's activities.

Leach didn't immediately return a telephone call seeking comment Tuesday on
the FDIC's proposal.

The bank insurance fund, which backs each account up to $100,000, has an
adequate cushion — now some $29 billion — to cover deposctitors' losses.

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[CTRL] Exclusive Photos Show Truth About Al Gore (fwd)

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EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS SHOW TRUTH ABOUT AL GORE
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Can Iowa be fooled?
Aspersions cast on Gore's memory, honesty
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By David M. Bresnahan
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Presidential candidate Al Gore is not being accurate as he
campaigns across Iowa, according to Republican National Committee
chairman Jim Nicholson, who insists that the vice president
continues to misrepresent his farm-boy past.

Gore often speaks of his youthful summers working on the family
farm in Carthage, Tenn., telling crowds of his days in the 4-H
Club and raising cattle.

The vice president has repeatedly told audiences all across Iowa
that he is a farmer, and that he has a great love for farming and
for the people of Iowa. He also claims that he and his family
learned to respect the environment on their tobacco farm.

"I learned from my dad the respect for the environment that all
farmers who farm their own land have," said Gore in a recent
speech in Boone, Iowa. "I may have been raised most of my life in
Washington, but I know one end of the pitchfork from the other,"
he claimed. Garbage dump at Gore farm

Nicholson disagreed and said Gore uses another farm implement
better than a pitchfork. "He's far more proficient with a
shovel," said Nicholson, who complained that Gore paints a much
different picture of his farm experience than reality.

The Gore farm has been identified as the location of a
potentially dangerous waste dump, according to The Washington
Times and a local Nashville television station -- both of whom
documented the dump with pictures and interviews with neighbors
in October 1992. Neighbors claim the waste dump has been there
for many years.

Photographs of the site in 1992 clearly show the existence of
chemical containers. One container is labeled, "Royal NH-30," a
chemical used by tobacco farmers.

Gore claims that his father stopped growing tobacco on the farm
in 1980, and he firmly denied -- despite the photographs and
interviews -- the existence of the dump at the time of the
stories. "It's an unfounded story from the last campaign," a Gore
campaign spokesman said. Royal NH-30, a chemical used by
tobacco farmers, found on Gore farm.

A spokesman for Uniroyal, the company that manufactures Royal
MH-30, said that the dangerous chemical should not be disposed of
in an open dump or pit. State fines for such disposal are as high
as $500, and the federal fine can be as high as $25,000.

"Learning to respect the environment at the Gore farm in Carthage
would be like learning to respect cattle at a slaughterhouse,"
said Nicholson.

"For years they used the farm to maintain a garbage dump that
they filled with pesticide and oil containers, aerosol cans, and
unrecycled cans and bottles," said Nicholson. "It wasn't a
pristine environmental haven. It was an ugly, dangerous dump --
and it could have leached into the Caney Fork River."

Gore was caught exaggerating his farming experience in December.
He stopped at the office of The Des Moines Register and spoke of
his love for Iowa, for farmers, and for his days on the family
farm.

"I've owned and operated my own farm for 26 years," Gore told the
reporters. "I went back there and bought my own farm when I came
back from Vietnam, and we are going to be on our farm for
Christmas and New Year's, and we're going to be spending New
Year's with a lot of friends I grew up with working on the farm,"
Gore said to reporter John Carlson.

Carlson decided to dig for details and asked Gore what he grew on
his farm, catching the vice president off guard.

"Well," he said with a smile, according to Carlson, "we have a
big garden."

"Gore seemed sort of embarrassed and said something about the
real Gore family farm, where his grandfather grew tobacco first
and then corn, and how it's across the river from his land and
that the two places operate in tandem. So he is a farmer.
Really," explained Carlson of the incident in his own column.

Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., recently tried to warn Iowa voters
about Gore on CNN's Crossfire.

"Vice President Al Gore is trying to scare the farmers. The fact
is he's not for the family farmer. Well, the fact is we've had
these policies for 10 years under the Clinton-Gore
administration, or eight years, and the family farmer is worse
off today. People in Iowa are starting to realize that," said
Miller.

Gore attacked his opponent, Bill Bradley in one of many debates
on Friday night. He tried to show that he approves of the Iowa
caucus process, and that Bradley is against it.

"Gore's very good at these attacks. That's what Gore does best,"
expla

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This new technology, is based on  binaural beat
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How to order. -- Pricing -- Product Descriptions. We also
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[CTRL] WF Buckley - On the Right - January 25, 2000 (fwd)

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  William F. Buckley, Jr. - ON THE RIGHT
 Friday, January 25, 2000

Q: Shouldn't your candidate have just said it out straight -- that
   the Confederate flag should be pulled down in Columbia? After
   all, Governor Bush is a citizen of a state that fought with
   the South during the Civil War, and there's no flag flying
   in Austin --

A: What's flying in Austin doesn't duplicate what flies in
   South Carolina. There are, besides, interesting cultural
   differences. South Carolina is where the Civil War began.
   Austin, Texas, is where Gov. Sam Houston pleaded that Texas
   should stay neutral.

Q: But how much does yesterday's history have to do with the
   question of flying a flag of a movement -- of a nation-manque
   that was beaten in war 135 years ago?

A: The legislators who hoisted the Dixie flag weren't provoked
   by the memory of the War Between the States, as the Southerners
   call the Civil War. It was the activist Supreme Court and the
   Congress. The South Carolinians were reacting in protest
   against the civil rights activity that began with the Brown
   vs. Board of Education decision in 1954, outlawing segregated
   schools. The flag was first hoisted in 1962. It is a reliquary
   of evanescent hopes and ideals.

Q: You've got to be kidding! Was slavery an ideal?

A: No. There aren't any South Carolinians who pine for the return
   of slavery. And modern scholarship is pretty secure in
   insisting that slavery was central to the Southern way of
   life. But extruding slavery, there is for many Southerners
   nostalgia and a sense of Southern idealism and cultural
   particularism of the kind associated with the famous literary
   rallying point, I'll Take My Stand. There wasn't anything
   persuasively associated with pro-slavery in the works of
   Robert Penn Warren, Allan Tate, John Crowe Ransom or Donald
   Davidson. They're all dead now, but it's not inconceivable
   they'd have voted to keep the flag up there.

Q: Even if your candidate, George W. Bush, takes the formal
   position that it's not his say whether the flag stays up or
   comes down -- why doesn't he simply say that in his view it
   should come down, because it is offensive to so many people,
   as witness the big demonstration on Monday?

A: A governor of one state is reluctant to instruct the governor
   of another state what to do, where state protocols are the
   matter under discussion. Remember this, that to lower a flag
   is the most painful thing a proud people are ever called
   upon to do. When General Lee removed his sword and proffered
   it to General Grant at Appomattox, that was the military
   equivalent of lowering one's flag. It was thought so painful
   a gesture, General Grant returned the sword as a matter of
   courtesy, conqueror to the conquered --

Q: You're not suggesting General Grant would have permitted the
   Confederate flag to continue to fly over state capitols?

A: No, because after the war what was absolutely required was
   a sign of formal submission to the authority of Congress.
   Where rebel flags were furtively exposed, it was as stigmata
   of a lost cause. The elevation of the flag in South Carolina
   in 1962 was a gesture of philosophical defiance, and indeed
   more than that, when the doctrine of interposition was
   advanced by neighboring senator Richard Russell and others,
   in an effort to nullify, in the spirit of John C. Calhoun,
   the aggression of the Supreme Court.

Q: The political point of it has to be that there is a consensus
   forming, not only nationally, but also in South Carolina, that
   the flag has got to come down.

A: You make the political point. Exactly. Bringing down the
   flag is not the responsibility any South Carolina governor
   wants to take, nor any other governor counsel him to take,
   especially not the governor of a state that once fought for
   the Confederacy. There is one clean solution --

Q: To delay the thing until after the primaries?

A: That's an incidental benefit. But the call should go out for
   a plebiscite. Let everybody vote on whether that flag should
   continue in so prominent a position. Almost certainly it
   would be voted to come down. Among other things, there are
   economic boycotts getting into the picture, and the southern
   tradition is sensitive to material pressures. Jim Crow in
   eateries in Atlanta ended in part because of the heroism of
   civil rights squatters, in major part because of the desire
   of merchants for supplementary black commerce.

Q: So you are telling me you will not advise Governor Bush to
   go any further than he has done on this question?

A: That's a good way of putting it.

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From: "Eagle 1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> NOW,  I don't know why I ever joined up with AOL,  except it was the thing
> to do six years ago,  when they were new and I was computer illiterate.

I too was on AOHell 6 years ago, because at the time there weren't any
viable local ISPs, and AOHell seemed to be the only game in town...

My 'association' lasted a little over a year...and all the time I was using
it, I'd constantly 'lose' my mouse...

My computer was some sort of mongrel, and one of it's idiosyncrisies was
that the modem was installed in the COM port normally utilized by the mouse,
and vice versa...meaning that my mouse was installed to the COM port
normally used by the modem...

My mouse went belly up every time I noticed AOHell was trying to write
something to my hard drive...but instead of accessing my modem in the usual
COM port, it instead encountered my mouse, resulting in it's death...

I went thru 4 of them while I was AOHell...

But the final straw that caused me to leave was the realization that posts
on certain subjects either had a significant delay in delivery (as if they
were held up for someone's perusal before being sent on), or their outright
disappearance...these were posts dealing not only with your regular
'alphabet soup' governmental agencies, but also posts dealing with
alternative health subjects...

I and a handful of other AOHell subscribers belonged to an email list
devoted to alternative health, and we set up a private chat room where we
would meet every Sunday afternoon to chat...remember, this was a PRIVATE
room, only those of us who belonged to this email list knew about it...

And one of the things we discussed was our collective suspicion that our
posts to the list were being monitored...and we tested our theory that
AOHell was utilizing a robot program that flagged certain words or phrases
by periodically typing, in this chat area, "Okay, I'm going to freeze the
system now...", followed by one of the suspected 'keywords' or phrases...

And it never failed...immediately after hitting the send button after typing
the keyword, the system WOULD freeze up, for about 2 or 3 minutes...

This was at the same time AOHell made an announcement that it was forming a
partnership with the FBI, allowing the feebs in to read any and all emails,
supposedly to crack down on kiddy porn...

So tell me...why would they find discussion about vitamins and herbs used
for health reasons so interesting?


June

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[CTRL] UFO Triangles... Theirs or Ours? Answer: BOTH

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TR-3B

Source: Copyrighted by Fouche Media Associates 1998
From: 'Alien Rapture - The Chosen
by Brad Steiger and Edgar Rothschild Fouche
More Excerpts at our Web page: http://www.fouchemedia.com

UFO Triangles... Theirs or Ours? Answer: BOTH

It has been rumored for years that the military's black operations has
perfected incredibly advanced gravity-defying triangular supersecret aerial
platforms at least partially derived from ET technology. It now appears the
proof of such vehicles is to be released in a new book entitled Alien
Rapture - The Chosen By Edgar Rothschild Fouche' and Brad Steiger, due out
in late June, 1998 from Galde Press.

Tonight, the world's most exotic and classified aerospace vehicle could be
stealthily hovering somewhere over Phoenix, Arizona, Gulf Breeze, Florida,
the country of Belgium, or your city. It is known as the TR-3B.

Science fiction or fact, you ask? Alien Rapture - The Chosen by Edgar
Rothschild Fouche and Brad Steiger details the astounding government
cover-up effected by the MJ-12 committee and reveals for the first time
ultra top secret information about alien technology and reverse engineered
technology we have developed as a result of the recovered alien artifacts.

The TR-3B is NOT fiction and was built with technology available in the
mid-1980s or earlier. The triangular shaped nuclear powered aerospace
platform was developed under the Aurora Program with SDI and black budget
monies.

The Aurora Program is a top secret development program for advanced
aerospace vehicles and has been responsible for development of the
hypersonic strategic reconnaissance SR-75 Penetrator which replaced the
SR-71 spy plane, and the SR-74 Scramp, which rides piggy-back the SR-75.

The tactical reconnaissance TR-3B's first operational flight was in the
early 90s. Technology assuredly developed from reverse engineering of
recovered alien artifacts and programs such as the SR-74 and SR-75 was used
in the TR-3B. At least three of the billion dollar plus TR-3Bs were flying
by 1994.

The TR-3B vehicle's outer coating is reactive to electrical stimulation and
can change color, reflectiveness, and radar absorptiveness, thus making the
vehicle look like a small aircraft or a flying cylinder--or even tricking
radar receivers into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft,
or several aircraft at various locations.

A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the "Magnetic Field
Disrupter" surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any
imaginable technology. Sandia and Livermore laboratories developed the
reverse engineered MFD technology. The government will go to any lengths to
protect this technology.

The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field that disrupts or neutralizes the
effects of gravity on mass within proximity by 89 percent. This is not
antigravity. Anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for
propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth's gravitational field
upon the mass within the circular accelerator.

The mass of the circular accelerator, and all mass within the accelerator,
such as the crew capsule and the nuclear reactor, are reduced by almost 90%.
This causes the effect of making a vehicle extremely light and able to
outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet constructed--except, of course,
those UFOs we did not build. The TR-3 is a reconnaissance platform with an
indefinite loiter time. "Indefinite" because it uses a nuclear reactor for
power.

Many sightings of triangular UFOs are not alien vehicles but the ultra top
secret TR-3B. The NSA, NRO, CIA, and USAF have been playing a shell game
with aircraft nomenclature - creating the TR-3, modified to the TR-3A, the
TR-3B, and the Teir 2, 3, and 4, with suffixes like 'Plus' or 'Minus' added
on to further confuse the fact that each of these designators is a different
aircraft and not the same aerospace vehicle. A TR-3B is as different from a
Teir 3B as a banana is from a grape. Some of these vehicles are manned and
others are unmanned.

The TR-3B's propulsion is provided by three multimode thrusters mounted at
each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9
vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l00,000 feet--then God knows how
fast it can go!




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[CTRL] Medical Control, Medical Corruption

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 Medical Control, Medical Corruption

 by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

 The vested interests are sick over it:  Americans are beginning,
 just slightly, to take charge of their own health care.  Such
 bestsellers as the Doctor's Book of Home Remedies, the Physician's
 Desk Reference, and the Merck Manual can keep you out of the
 doctor's appropriately named waiting room, or at least help you
 understand what is being done to you, when an apple a day does
 not work.

 Who is unhappy with this increased knowledge?  The American
 Medical Association, which for almost 150 years has sought to
 institutionalize a rip-off and to keep sick people and their
 families oblivious to it.  Thanks to this central committee of the
 medical cartel, the number of medical schools and medical students
 is drastically restricted, state licensure further obstructs the
 supply of doctors, fees are largely secret and controlled across
 the industry, alternative treatments and practitioners are
 outlawed, pharmacists and nurses are hamstrung, and the mystique
 of the profession rivals the priesthood, although priests have a
 somewhat lower income.  Meanwhile, the customer pays through the
 nose, even if he does not go to an otolaryngologist.

 Medicaid and Medicare have contributed to the problem, but the
 medical cartel is the original sin.  Through its ability to keep
 incomes high by limiting supply and outlawing competition,
 organized medicine has punished its customers, although the word
 is never used so as to disguise what is, after all, an economic
 relationship.

 Hillary Clinton's proposed merger of the medical cartel and the
 state seems like a radical move, and it is.  It is also the logical
 next step in the partnership of government and medicine.  That is
 why, in addition to opposing Hillary hammer and tongs, we should
 reexamine the AMA's distortion of the medical marketplace and the
 very idea of medical licensure.

 Competition among providers -- as with any service in a market
 economy -- leads to rational pricing and maximum consumer choice.
 But this is exactly what the AMA has always sought to prevent.
 The American Medical Association, organized in New York in 1848,
 advanced two seemingly innocent propositions in its early days:
 that all doctors should have a "suitable education" and that a
 "uniform elevated standard of requirements for the degree of M.D.
 should be adopted by all medical schools in the U.S."  These were
 part of the AMA's real program, which was openly discussed at its
 conventions and in the medical journals:  to secure a government-
 enforced medical monopoly and high incomes for mainstream doctors.

 Membership in the new organization was open only to "regular"
 physicians, whose therapies were based on the "best system of
 physiology and pathology, as taught in the best schools in Europe
 and America."  The public had a different view, however.  Official
 treatments of the time, such as bloodletting and mercury poisoning,
 harmed and sometimes murdered patients, causing mass outrage.

 Emphatically not included among the "best" were the homeopaths.
 Homeopathy, a less invasive system that still thrives in Britain
 and Europe, may have done no good, but that was the worst charge
 lodged against it.  Homeopathy did not kill people, as Orthodox
 medicine did.  The homeopaths actually followed the Hippocratic
 injunction "First, do not harm" and refused to worship abstract
 Science.  As a result, the clergy -- an important interest group in
 19th-century America -- sympathized with them.  As the president of
 the New York State Medical Society noted in 1844, "We feel severely
 the influence of the clergy as operating against our collective
 interest."  One prominent pastor, for example, had called the
 medical establishment "an expensive vampire upon society."

 How the "regulars" came to crush the homeopaths and other
 competitors, and penalize patients in the process, is a story of
 deception and manipulation, of industry self-interest and state
 power.  The organized regulars or allopaths first set out to
 demonstrate that the homeopaths were ill-educated and therefore
 should be shunned, but that was difficult to substantiate because
 most of them were converts from orthodox medicine.

 One was William H. Holcombe.  When he graduated from the University
 of Pennsylvania, he worried, as he wrote in his memoirs, that
 physicians "were blind men, striking in the dark at the disease or
 the patient-lucky if [we] killed the malady [instead of] the man."
 One day Holcombe was called by the parents of a seriously ill
 child, whom Holcombe subsequently set about to bleed.  Bloodletting
 was considered especially important for children, and the younger
 the child, the more blood was to be drawn.  But the mother clutched
 the baby to her breast and cried, "The blood is the life -- it
 shall not be taken away."  When the benighted father a

[CTRL] Public Release of Your Medical Records

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http://www.insightmag.com/archive/21217.shtml


 Public Comment on Medical Records

 By Kelly Patricia O’Meara

 HHS has formulated new regulations allowing agencies to
 snoop on your private medical records, but it is avoiding a
 massive reaction by making public comment too difficult.

 Privacy is so much a part of the American character that in
 its name the Supreme Court has even authorized mothers to
 take the lives of their unborn children. But not only
 records of abortions but other medical events and conditions
 -- sometimes including embarrassing details that are
 discussed during medical examinations that traditionally
 have been left between patient and doctor -- no longer may
 be protected from falling into the wrong hands, and even
 may be available for public scrutiny.

 That’s right. In the name of medical research and
 “administrative efficiency,” that irritating and recurring
 thingamabob on your whatchamacallit that long has been a
 personal matter between you and your doctor now will become
 part of a massive government database.

 Naysayers who think of their relationship with their
 physician in the same vein as that of attorney/client and
 priest/parishioner complain that these proposed regulations
 are not only unconstitutional but also more than slightly
 hypocritical. For instance, they wonder how President
 Clinton can be so eager to adopt measures that will give
 him access to all personal medical information when he has
 refused to release his own medical records. And, despite
 government reassurances that information regarding
 individual medical records would be completely confidential,
 such assurances are a difficult pill to swallow given the
 history of the Clinton/Gore use of FBI and other
 confidential files.

 Those who fear their medical records could somehow be used
 against them make the point that the FBI still has been
 unable to ascertain how 408 FBI files on leading
 Republicans, all containing IRS documents, found their way
 seven blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue and into computers the
 White House apparently shared with the Democratic National
 Committee.

 Nevertheless, the new regulations to allow federal snooping
 on the private medical records of every citizen have been
 written and, short of a thundering public outcry, they will
 become law. In accordance with official procedure, an avenue
 first must be made available for public comment. This
 nominally has been provided by the Department of Health and
 Human Services, or HHS, at http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/ .
 But the unusually complicated and lengthy procedure for
 comment on this matter suggests to some old hands familiar
 with bureaucratic obfuscation that a major effort has been
 afoot to slip this one through without general public
 notice.

 The Rubic’s cube kind of frustration begins with just
 logging onto the Website. First, a citizen wishing to
 comment must register as a new user. While not difficult,
 it is interesting that no name or address is required,
 suggesting that registration is only to complicate the
 process. And, after registration, the maze becomes more
 punishing.

 There are 65 separate sections upon which to comment, each
 of which involves reading proposed regulatory language that
 sometimes consumes many pages with detail. Responding to all
 these questions takes even experienced legislative analysts
 the better part of a weekend. For those who don’t have two
 or three days to study the proposal fully and muster
 appropriate responses to each of the 65 sections, there is
 a “general” comment section. Those who also may wish to
 comment to Congress should know that the House Commerce
 Committee has oversight of HHS regulatory issues and
 receives comments at www.house.gov/commerce. Of course,
 comments to congressmen and senators may be considered as
 well. Insight made repeated calls right up to the highest
 level of HHS to obtain a status report on the comments
 received to date. Not one of those calls was returned.
 Through the office of Rep. Ron Paul, a Texas Republican,
 this magazine learned that HHS claims to have received fewer
 than 2,000 responses on the Website, and only slightly more
 than 5,000 written comments. The agency would not say how
 many were in opposition to the sweeping new regulatory
 proposal. HHS Secretary Donna Shalala has the option to make
 the comments public, noting whether they facilitated changes
 in the regulations or not.

 The proposed regulations were made public on Nov. 3, 1999,
 and the comment period (60 days) has been extended several
 times, now scheduled to close on Feb. 17. While it may seem
 that this issue popped up out of nowhere, it has been
 advanced by the Clinton administration for nearly four
 years; many consider it a continuation of the failed 1993
 Clinton Health Security Act on which first lady Hillary
 Rodham Clinton took the lead. The proposed regulations to

[CTRL] Hillary Supports Sex Trafficking

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http://www.insightmag.com/archive/21216.shtml


 Hillary Supports Sex Trafficking

 By Catherine Edwards

 When a carefully worded transnational definition of sex
 trafficking is modified to outlaw only involuntary
 participation, the result is legalized prostitution by
 semantics.

 She was filled with hope after accepting a job to work
 in a restaurant. She finally could leave behind the
 back-breaking labor of lemon harvesting. Her family in
 Mexico would be proud. But her happiness soon turned to
 unimaginable despair. When she met her new boss, he gave
 her tight clothes to wear and condoms to give customers.
 She was beaten, raped, locked into a trailer and forced
 to have sex with whomever walked through the door. It
 was every woman’s worst nightmare.

 Two million women and children each year are
 “trafficked” by criminals in this way for sexual
 purposes. Half of them are in Asia, where Thailand and
 Burma are infamous for enslaving children and women into
 a lifetime of sexual prostitution.

 But this trailer prison was not in Bangkok. This woman
 was in Florida. She is one of the 50,000 women brought
 into the United States every year to become sex slaves.
 Promised a better life and a respectable job, their
 lives become a living hell.

 This literally is slavery. And an unlikely coalition of
 religious conservatives and feminists has developed to
 fight it. But a small group of feminists has been trying
 through the back door to decriminalize sex trafficking.
 Led by the President’s Interagency Council on Women,
 which is chaired by Hillary Rodham Clinton, these women
 actually have become advocates for the sex industry by
 trying to change the definition of prostitution in a way
 that critics fear may legalize it. That definition now
 is being negotiated in Vienna for the U.N. Convention on
 Transnational Organized Crime.

 Religious critics and a powerful lobby of feminists led
 by Gloria Steinem and Patricia Ireland claim that the
 administration’s position only can have the effect of
 legalizing prostitution. The dispute in Vienna is about
 defining the word “trafficking.” The definition
 supported by the Hillary Clinton team speaking for the
 United States, the Netherlands and several other
 European countries would include only persons who are
 trafficked by force, fraud or deception. This differs
 from the current U.N. definition, which outlaws sex
 trafficking for any reason, be it voluntary or forced.

 Proponents of the change contend that women should be
 guaranteed the right to sell their sexual favors as
 they please and be protected by labor laws and local
 government services. Opponents to changing the
 definition, fearful that the Vienna convention would be
 finalized in mid-January, fired off letters to the
 president and the first lady demanding to know why the
 administration was attempting to legalize prostitution
 by international agreement.

 Former White House aide Chuck Colson, the Christian
 advocate who runs Prison Fellowship Ministries, and
 former Reagan secretary of education Bill Bennett, now
 codirector of Empower America, wrote a critical op-ed
 article that appeared in the Wall Street Journal. They
 called the Clinton position “hard to fathom,” especially
 when the Clinton/Gore team purports to be pro-woman.
 “There can be no meaningful “consent to one’s own sexual
 exploitation,” they added, “particularly when one lives
 in poverty and desperate circumstances.”

 Republican Rep. Joe Pitts of Pennsylvania and 32 other
 members of Congress sent a letter to the president in
 mid-January expressing concern about administration
 advocacy of legalized prostitution. The congressmen
 noted that by narrowing the definition of trafficking in
 the Vienna protocol to allow for the prosecution only of
 those who can be proved to have used force, only a
 handful of sex traffickers ever would be prosecuted.

 “Is prostitution forced upon a young woman whose family
 tells her they will starve if she does not sell her
 body?” the congressmen asked, ex-pressing hope that
 they could work with the Clintons and Gore to reverse
 the course of action and to liberate, rather than
 legitimate, women and children in bondage to the sex
 trade worldwide.

 Richard Land of the Ethics and Religious Liberty
 Commission was joined by other religious conservatives
 in a tersely worded letter sent to Hillary Rodham
 Clinton in early January questioning her commitment to
 combat sex trafficking. Soon President Clinton received
 a similar letter from the major feminist organizations,
 including Equality Now, Planned Parenthood Federation of
 America, the National Organization for Women and the
 Feminist Majority.

 The 1949 U.N. Convention for the Suppression of the
 Traffic in Persons and of the Exploitation of the
 Prostitution of Others calls for punishment of any
 person who exploits the prostitution of another person,
 even with 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1

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 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 1/24/00 11:41:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>  > I wonder who runs the damn thing, and
>
>  >how they organize the meetings!!  I suspect that at a different time each
>
>  >month the members go to some place of their own choosing and hold a
>  >meeting,
>
>  >at which other members may or may not be in attendance, at which time they
>
>  >each individually propose ideas that are accepted or rejected by the
>  >others
>
>  >(if present), after implimentation all proposals are promptly ignored.
>
>
>
>
>  You obviously have never spent any time around anarchists and  know
>  nothing of our ways. If you have read about us at all, besides the
>  misleading common dictionary entry, you have clearly never read our
>  version, not even the internet FAQ.  A word of advice: research first,
>  talk second, look smart afterwards.
>
>  Meetings are what we do best. We believe, by definition, that one
>  anarchist's opinion is worth as much as the next's. This has forced us to
>  refine consensus decision making to a fine art. We're really good at it.
>  The rest of you could learn a thing or two.
>
>  Allow me to illustrate from my personal life.  I'm part of a group that
>  runs Bound Together Anarchist Collective Book Store, 1369 Haight St., SF
>  CA. We've been in business twenty five years this year. We're open seven
>  days a week fro 1:30AM to 7:30PM, 365 days a year. It's a store, like any
>  other, except that instead of a boss we have a meeting once a month. I'm
>  also part of the Book Fair committee, a sub set of the Book Store
>  collective. Once a year we rent a hall in Golden Gate Park and throw the
>  Annual San Francisco Anarchist Book Fair. Vendors come from all over the
>  place. Three or four thousand people show up to hear speakers, buy books,
>  periodicals, T-shirts, etc. and meet each other,  some for the first time.
>  We feed them. We clean up afterward. We arrange all the logistics and
>  handle the money. We always come out ahead.  We meet once a week for the
>  three or months leading up to it and a couple times during the rest  of
>  the year. A decisions are consensus. Everybody does their part, well, and
>  on time. This year it's on April 14.  Do come. It's big fun. Also there
>  are a lot of parties later.
>
>  The membership of the Book Store collective overlaps with the staff of AK
>  Press and Distribution and the staff of Maximum Rock and Roll magazine.
>  Both are long term going concerns owned and self managed by their
>  "employees."  AK started in Edinburgh Scotland and is now literally a
>  multinational corporation.
>
>  If we can do this, you can do it to. It ain't rocket science. Any cook can
>  govern. Govern your own job. Govern your own life. You'll be a lot happier.
>

Thanks for the fine illustrations Nessie.  I was just joking, of course.
Anarchists have to have an organizational structure in order to develop
policy and institute actions.

**
***
"Welcome to the desert of the real."  Morpheus, "The Matrix".

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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Re: [CTRL] Hillary Supports Sex Trafficking

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From: "Bill Kingsbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Former White House aide Chuck Colson, the Christian
>  advocate who runs Prison Fellowship Ministries, and
>  former Reagan secretary of education Bill Bennett, now
>  codirector of Empower America, wrote a critical op-ed
>  article that appeared in the Wall Street Journal. They
>  called the Clinton position "hard to fathom," especially
>  when the Clinton/Gore team purports to be pro-woman.
>  "There can be no meaningful "consent to one's own sexual
>  exploitation," they added, "particularly when one lives
>  in poverty and desperate circumstances."

As opposed to all the other exploitation women -- and men --
are subjected to, particularly when they live in poverty and
desperate circumstances?

I think all 'victimless' crimes should be decriminalized,
and that includes prostitution.  It's only through
decriminalization that prostitutes will be able to gain
control of their form of livelihood...


>  "Is prostitution forced upon a young woman whose family
>  tells her they will starve if she does not sell her
>  body?" the congressmen asked,

So, is it any different forcing that same young woman to
work in a sweatshop for pennies a day, often in conditions
which risk life and limb, because her family tells her they
will starve if she doesn't?

Wouldn't it be better if prostitution was decriminalized,
prostitutes be licensed (a condition of licensing would be
to require periodic health exams to assure the prostitute
was disease-free), and they could set themselves up in
business just like any 'legitimate' professional?

And BTW, I am no fan of either the Clintons, or the U.N


June

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THE HOUR OF THE TIME Tape No. 457:  "The Identity of Scarlet
#1" Monday, October 10, 1994

Tonight, folks, we're going to really twist your ears.  I hope you have
been listening to this broadcast long enough to understand what I'm
talking about.  Some of you new listeners may get lost.  All I can say
is if you get lost, buy the tapes of the series on Mystery Babylon and
some of the other broadcasts that we've done which lays the
groundwork for what you're going to hear tonight, for it's important.

And I know, I get letters from some of you that say you're tired of
hearing this stuff.  And do you know what?  Frankly, my dear Scarlet,
I just don't give a damn; because if you're tired of hearing it, and you
don't understand it, then you're still in sheeple-land because you can't
fight an enemy if you don't know who the enemy is, and what they
believe, and what their goals are.

Don't go away, folks, because we're going to pin some labels on
some skunks.

In Zechariah, Chapter 1, Verses 18 through 21, it says this.  And I
quote:

[Zechariah 1:18-21]

Verse 18:  Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four
horns.

Verse 19:  And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be
these?  And he answered me, These are the horns which have
scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.

Verse 20:  And the Lord shewed me four carpenters.

Verse 21:  Then said I, What come these to do?  And he spake,
saying, ... these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the
Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it.

End quote.  Now, Zechariah describes two mysterious entities at war:
the horns of the Gentiles against the four carpenters.

The horns are responsible for scattering the twelve tribes of Israel
throughout the world.

The carpenters retaliate with revolution, to cast out the horns and
emancipate the Jews.

Dr. E. Shryler  English, the editor of the journal called "Our
Hope" during the 1940s and 1950s; and Marion Bishop Bower
, the professor at Philadelphia School--now College--of Bible,
comment on the meaning of the word "horns" [Hebrew:  geren] in
prophecy.  Quote:

"In the Bible, horns speak of power, often, the power of a Gentile
king."

End quote.  The first Biblical record of a Gentile king was Nimrod.
Nimrod.  And we've discussed this king many, many times on this
hour. He was known as "the mighty one" who built Babylon.
Archaeologists have discovered that this monarch wore a crown of
bull horns, which may be the reason scripture has since identified a
world power by this symbol.

You see, Nimrod's system of rule was to unite religion with politics--
sound familiar?--thus inaugurating what is known as the Babylonian
system.  This can be found in Genesis, Chapter 10, Verses 8 and 10;
and Chapter 11, Verses 2 through 4.  They give us a brief history of
Mystery Babylon's beginning.  And I quote:

[Genesis 10:8, 10]

Verse 8:  And Cush began Nimrod:  he began to be a mighty one in
the earth.

Verse 10:  And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech,
and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Which is Babylonia.

[Genesis 11:2, 4]

Verse 2:  And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east,...they
found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

Verse 4:  And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower,
whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest
we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

End quote.  The city, ladies and gentlemen, stands for the political or
civil power of the king; and the tower represents the king's divine, or
religious, power.

You see--I have discussed this before with you--in the Bible, what
you are reading are metaphors.

In ancient pagan religions, the king united both powers.  Nimrod's
Babylonian system formed the pattern by which all kingdoms
afterwards would be governed; that is, with religion and state united.

Many centuries later, a Babylonian king named Nebuchadnezzar
would be the first to lift up his horn over the land of Judah.
Nebuchadnezzar is the first of these four historic horned powers
mentioned by Zechariah.  The other three powers were Medo-Persia,
Greece, and of course, Rome.

Both English and Bower suggest that Zechariah's "four carpenters"
were workmen, perhaps carvers, or smiths, workers in iron.  God
wanted to make clear that He has an instrument to destroy every
power that works against Him.  The workmen, you see, were to
crush the world powers that had scattered both Judah and Israel, and
which were determined to wipe them out.

What, in fact, these two Bible commentators have just described, is a
Masonic revolution.  "Carpenter", as we know, is a synonym for
"mason".  Masonic symbols display the tools of carpenters--such as
the square and compass--which is the chief symbol of Freemasonry.

The French Masonic Revolution, a working-man's uprising, was the
first to destroy a modern Gentile kingdom and f

[CTRL] Mystery Babylon #2

[The Extremist]

THE HOUR OF THE TIME Tape No. 458:  "Identity of
Scarlet No.
2" Tuesday, October 11, 1994

Tonight, folks, we're going to continue with the identity of
Mystery
Babylon.  Hopefully, I'll be able to finish that tonight.  If I
do, we'll
begin tomorrow night with the identity of the Beast.  Stay
tuned.

We know from Masonic sources, from their own writings, ladies and
gentlemen, that Freemasonry deceives its own initiates.  There
is,
however, a much broader deception, announced in Revelation,
Chapter 18, Verse 23.  Quote:

[Revelation 18:23:]

"...by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

End quote.  Let me say that one more time.

[Revelation 18:23:]

"...by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

This verse unveils Mystery Babylon's control of the manufacturing
and
trafficking of illegal drugs world-wide.

I can see you out there shaking your heads:  "Cooper's lost
it.  He's
crazy.  How could he possibly get that meaning out of that
verse?"

[Revelation 18:23:]

"...by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

It's very simple, folks.  Four Greek words--four Greek
words--are
used to define sorceries as used in the scripture that I just read. 
They
are:

(1)  "Pharmakeia" meaning magic, medication, and the
practice of
witchcraft;

(2)  "Pharmakeus" and "Pharmakon" meaning a
magician or sorcerer
who manufactures and sells spell-giving potions; and

(3)  "Pharmakos" having the same meaning as
"pharmakon".

In no other place in the entire Bible, except in reference to
Mystery
Babylon are these Greek words for "sorcery" used in the sense
they
are here, to indicate the manufacture, sale, and consumption of
drugs.
 From them, come our English form of "pharmacist",
"pharmacy", and
"pharmaceutical".

Does that blow your mind?

We have already outlined the tradition and history of sorcery and
drug
use in both Freemasonries in previous episodes of "The Hour of
the
Time".

We suggested the extent of English Freemasonry's post-World War
II drug empire.

And we have traced the Whore of Babylon's universal control of
growing, manufacturing, distributing, and financing illegal drugs for
the
express purpose of deceiving the world into accepting her New Age
Antichrist.

English Freemasonry's involvement with illicit drugs may be the
strongest evidence that today London is home for Mystery Babylon.

Revelation, Chapter 17, Verses 4 through 5, exposes the perfidy of
Scarlet's character.  She is not only a harlot religion, but the
Mother--
on the street, "the muthah", if you will--the firstborn of
Babylon and
progenitor of all false religions.  Therefore, she is called
Mystery
Babylon, the Mother of Harlots.

As we have revealed, English Freemasonry--the Mother of all
Freemasonry--claims from her own writings, from her own mouth, her
roots in ancient Babylon.  With over 9,000 Temple Lodges
scattered
throughout most nations of the world, and with over 7,000 in Great
Britain alone, including 1,700 in London, English Freemasonry is
the
largest harlot religion on earth today.

Moreover, this modern Whore of Babylon has given birth to hundreds
of modern secret societies, cults, think tanks, and a variety of
political
orders.

Edith Miller, in her book entitled, "Occult Theocracy",
published in
1933, names many of the offspring of English Freemasonry.  And
I'm
going to give you the names of some of these.

And I want you to remember, folks, that last night's broadcast and
tonight's broadcast comes, a good part, from a book entitled,
"Scarlet
and the Beast"--"Scarlet and the Beast" by John
Daniel.  It is a history
of the war between English and French Freemasonry; and of course,
from my own research, from my series on Mystery Babylon, from our
library here at the Research Center.

Now, back to the list of the major offspring of English Freemasonry
in
the different major nations of the world.

In England:

the Societas Rosecruciana in Anglia; the Ancient and Primitive Rite
of
Memphis; the Theosophical Society; the Order of the Golden Dawn;
Stella Matutina ; the Fabian Society; the Round Table
Groups;
and many others.

In Germany:

the Illuminati; the Strict Observance; the Martinist Order; the
Tugendbunds ; the Anthroposophical Society; the Ordo
Templae Orientalis--called the OTO; and the Thule Society.

In France:

the Scottish Rite; the French Grand Lodge; Grand Orients; Jacobins;
Communism; Socialism; Alliance Israelite Universal; the League of
Nations; the European Economic Community; and the United States
of Europe.

In Italy:

the Carbinieri; the Young Societies; the Propaganda Duo--also
known as P2, the drug running lodges; and of course, the Mafia.

And that accounts for the cooperation between the Mafia and the
secret society-run intelligence community in the United States of
America and in other countries.

In Russia:

the Nihilists; the Anarchists; and the Soviet Union.

In Moslem countries they are known as the Moslem Brotherhood.

In America:

the Scottish Rite; the York Rite; the Eastern Star; the Shriners;
Odd
Fe

[CTRL] Mystery Babylon #3

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THE HOUR OF THE TIME Tape No. 459:  "End Scarlet Begin
Beast" Wednesday, October 12, 1994

Ancient Mystery Babylon "sat on", or controlled, six historic world
powers.  Modern Mystery Babylon--English Freemasonry--"sat on",
that is, funded and controlled, the seventh:  Nazi Germany.

Likewise, English Freemasonry is today in control of the
contemporary seven-nation Trilateral Commission.  And there is a
great propaganda campaign being waged across this country to make
you believe that you are part of the promise of British Israel, so that
you will help destroy freedom.

The Trilateral Commission is a third-generation offspring of English
Freemasonry:

The first-generation offspring is the Round Table, created by Cecil
Rhodes;

The second generation consists of the three Round Table Groups: the
Council on Foreign Relations (or known as the CFR); the Royal
Institute of International Affairs (or the RIIA), located in Chatham
 House, which is, ladies and gentlemen, the headquarters of
British Intelligence, their private club, so to speak; and

The Institute of Pacific Relations, (or IPR).

 From the Round Table Groups sprang the third generation in 1973
known as the Trilateral Commission, which was then given the task of
implementing English Freemasonry's concept of one-world, idealism.

The "Tri" of Trilateral, of course, refers to three regions of the world:
North America, Western Europe, and Japan.  This division may also
correlate with the three-part body of the Beast.

"Commission" bespeaks the function given the Trilateral Commission
by English Freemasonry.  Quote:

"...to foster closer cooperation among these three regions."

End quote.  The nation members of the Trilateral Commission are the
seven most potent industrial powers of the world:  the United States
of America, Canada, Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, and
Japan.

Membership also includes the heads of major oil companies, multi-
national corporations, and international banks.  Aristocrats and
politicians are members as well, including our past President, George
Bush.

Our current President, Bill Clinton, is a member of the Bilderbergers,
which we know is a cover for English Freemasonry's Round Table.
And as a Rhodes Scholar, Clinton is an Anglophile.

Since its founding, the Trilateral Commission has met annually to
discuss solutions to common problems that hinder English
Freemasonry's control and goal of controlling world government.

A few months following each annual meeting, the heads of state of the
seven industrial powers hold a summit to work out a strategy for
implementing these solutions, a strategy that often involves each
nation's legislature.

Of course, the subversive lawmakers are Anglophile politicians,
groomed by the Round Table Groups, to assure passage of any bill
that would serve the special one-world interest of English
Freemasonry.  Indeed, John's "seven mountains" on which the
"woman sitteth" appear to be the seven nation Trilateral Commission
on which English Freemasonry "sitteth".

Lt. Col. James Bo Gritz is a 32nd Degree Freemason of the Scottish
Rite.

Babylon was the dominant world power when Jeremiah prophesied.
Some of his prophecies were pronounced and carried out upon the
Babylon of his day.  Others were directed at a future Babylon, which
name describes an entity, not a literal city of Babylon.  We should not,
for instance, be looking for the literal city of Babylon in modern Iraq
to be rebuilt to fulfill Jeremiah's end-time prophecy.

And remember, wherever you here "end-time" it translates "end of the
age"; for the real word that is translated is "aeon" which means "age".

Jeremiah, Chapter 51, Verse 13 describes the location of the end-of-
the- age, spiritual Babylon.  Quote:

[Jeremiah 51:13:]

"O you who dwell by many waters, abundant in treasures, your end is
come, the measure of your end."  [not KJV]

End quote.  Taken literally, this cannot mean modern Iraq since Iraq
is not surrounded by many waters, nor abundant in treasures.

Great Britain, however, is abundant in treasures.  She is also
completely surrounded by many waters:  the Atlantic Ocean to the
west, the North Sea to the north and east, and the English Channel to
the south.

In Verse 42, Jeremiah says, quote:

[Jeremiah 51:42:]

"The sea has come up over Babylon:  she has been engulfed with its
tumultuous waves."   [not KJV]

End quote.  Now, taken figuratively, "sea" means "peoples", as in
Revelation, Chapter 17, Verse 15, quote:

[Revelation 17:15:]

"...The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, and
multitudes, and nations, and tongues."  [not KJV]

End quote.  London boasts of having every nationality within its city
limits.  It is not really an English city, but an international city.

An interesting scripture concerning the Mother of Harlots is found in
Revelation, Chapter 18, Verse 7.  And it reads, quote:

[Revelation 18:7:]

"How much she hath glorified her

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THE HOUR OF THE TIME Tape No. 460:  "Identity of the Beast
#2" Thursday, October 13, 1994

Well, folks, tonight we're going to continue with our revelations on the
identity of the Beast -- the Beast empire, that is.  As we told you we
were not going to attempt to identify the man, but the empire.  And
that's exactly what we're going to do.

The struggle, ladies and gentlemen, between English and French
Freemasonry has produced such a convoluted body of entangled
nations with so many conflicting interests that it can only be described
as a beast.

For example, four of the nations in French Freemasonry's European
Common Market are also members of English Freemasonry's seven-
nation Trilateral Commission.  Those are:  England, France, Germany,
and Italy.

In looking at this convoluted mess, the prophet Daniel could hardly
describe what he saw.  He recorded in Daniel, Chapter 7, Verse 7,
that is was "...dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly;...and it
was diverse from all the beasts that were before it;"

The Apostle John appears to have had the same problem in his
description, for his account of the seven heads as seven nations and
ten crowns as ten kings leaves the reader asking where the crowns
are located on the body of the Beast.

John did not specifically mention on which of the seven heads, or
eight, the ten horns were mounted; although we believe they are on
the eighth head.

And the debate continues among prophecy scholars even unto this
day.

The Beast's body, according to Revelation, Chapter 13, Verse 2, is
made up of a leopard, the head--or teeth, some say--of a lion, and
the feet of a bear.  Interestingly, the national emblems of England and
Russia are the lion and the bear, respectively.  What nation the
leopard represents is not quite yet clear.

But one fact is certain:  the ten European nations--or ten crowns in
Revelation, Chapter 17, Verse 12--are NOT the body of the Beast.

You see, the ten crowns are separate as described in John's vision.
Likewise, Daniel, Chapter 7, Verses 7 through 8, reveals the same
ten- plus-one beast.  Quote:

[Daniel 7:7, 8]

Verse 7:  After this, I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth
beast, ...and it had ten horns.

Verse 8:  I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among
them another little horn,"

End quote.  Bible commentators, English and Bower , state that
this "little horn" is the same as the Beast, or the eighth world kingdom
mentioned in Revelation, Chapter 17, Verse 11.

John said the Beast comes out of the seven; which means the Beast
kingdom may come from both the historical seven empires and the
end- time, seven-nation Trilateral Commission.

Daniel said the Beast comes "up from among" the ten; which means it
may come from one of the twelve Common Market nations.

But by placing the three groups of nations side-by-side, we should be
able to determine which kingdom or nation is the Beast kingdom by
focusing on the one listed in all three groups.

In the historic seven, remember, there were:  Egypt, Assyria,
Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and Nazi Germany.

In the Trilateral Commission, there's:  the United States, Canada,
England, Japan, France, Italy (or Rome), and Germany.

In the Common Market, we have:  France, Belgium, the Netherlands,
Luxembourg, England, Ireland, Denmark, Greece, Spain, Portugal,
Italy (which again, is Rome), and Germany.

There are two nations in all three columns.  And exactly as I predicted
in my series on Mystery Babylon, they are Rome and Germany.

Many Bible prophecy scholars believe the Beast's headquarters will
be based at Rome, especially those who view the Roman Church as
Mystery Babylon.  And this, of course, would make the Beast and the
Whore reign from the same city, which is unlikely--if, as Revelation,
Chapter 17, Verses 16 through 17, says, the Beast permits the ten
kings to burn the city of the Whore.  In the process, he would permit
the burning of his own headquarters.  And this isn't likely.

You see, if the headquarters of the Whore of Babylon is not Rome,
but London, then Rome could be a candidate for the headquarters of
the Beast.

A revived, political Rome does not, however, have to be ruled from
Old Rome.  Make sure that you understand this premise.

Daniel says the Beast, or "little horn" which means "new nation" or
"young nation" came up among the ten European nations.  Therefore,
Rome or any one of the other nine nations could have the same
characteristics of ancient Rome.  Or the Beast could be an eleventh
nation, as the "little horn" suggests.  Therefore, the Beast could be a
young nation that was born, or "came up from among" the ten nations.

And more accurately stated, ladies and gentlemen, the Beast nation is
a young nation whose population came from the territory of the ten
European nations.

Some of you who have a good brain in your head already know who
I'm talking about.

To identify the "little hor

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #5

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* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No predicted earth changes occurred during production of this bulletin.
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@ Haiku Headlines: http://www.thefulldeck.com/haiku/haiku.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Building Tomorrow's Space Battleships with Today's Tech. In the movies, X-
  wings & TIE fighters dart & weave in dogfights out of a WW2 epic. But what
  if we had to build a maneuverable spaceship that'd take evasive actions --
  and we had to do it NOW? In 100 years, wonks at the Marshall Space Center
  expect us to be using magnetized target fusion to move in space. This is
  like a nuclear pulse engine, only using fusion instead of fission bombs.
  The resulting explosions would generate huge thrust in the form of gamma-
  and X-ray bursts. http://persweb.direct.ca/psa/spacebattleships.html

: Will our future military spacecraft appear to alien observers to be weird
astronomical events? Are weird events observed by Hubble etc. really alien
warcraft, ET attacks, devastated planets/civilizations, interstellar wars?

# Eskimo Nebula: Easy as pie - No trouble for Hubble to find spectacular
  display: http://www.lineone.net/express/00/01/25/news/n0300hubble-d.html
# Earth has 'new moon' - Captured asteroid has 770-year horseshoe orbit:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000114832908976&pg=/et/00/1/25/nmoon25.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ The Hammer & the Pendulum. The shift in the Earth's crust was as sudden as
  it was devastating. It moved with such deadly force, with such overwhelm-
  ing ferocity that it caught everything in its path unaware & unsuspecting.
  It came like a great white shark from the ocean depths its jaws open wide
  ready to close on its victim. Nothing signified its approach, nothing
  warned of its danger. No robotic voice sang out, "Danger, Will Robinson!"
  http://www.earthchangestv.com/magshift/TheHammerandThePendulum.htm

: Has your planet attacked itself lately? Is your planet epileptic? Doew y'r
star have spasms? Would a dose of Dilantin help? Should it be restrained??

@ Are We About To Experience A Pole Shift?
  http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/January2000/0122shift.htm
@ The Pole Shift, Within and Without:
  http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/January2000/0123poleshift.htm
@ Earth Slowdown, Speedup, Twitch:
  http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/January2000/0123past.htm
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@ From <http://www.implantinfo.com/banda4/313allan/> pretty little ones
  to scary big ones, from <http://www.implantinfo.com/banda2/153pechter/>
  small and unshapely to large and still unshapely! They're all right
  <http://www.implantinfo.com/beforeandafter/> here! And put it all
  together over at: http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Wearables/

@ PsychoTrauma: http://www.trauma-pages.com/pg4.htm#MH-Trt
@ Healing: http://idealist.com/wounded_healer/wills.shtml
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# Indonesia blames many for violence. SABANG, Indonesia (AP) - Indonesia's
  president Tuesday accused disgruntled army generals and radical Muslims
  of provoking violence that threatens his fledgling democratic government
  and the unity of the sprawling Southeast Asian nation. Reform program
  undermined: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563631255-74c

: Do you blame violence on cops, soldiers, religious fanatics, malnutrition,
demons.deities, aliens, robots, me? Do you bear no responsibility? Why not?

# Cult of Arkan: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/yugo20.html
# Afghan Taliban say they will never expel bin Laden - he's ours:
  http://www.gulf-news.co.ae/25012000/WORLD/world2.htm
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Jeez-O-Rama:

# Devil-worshipper nabbed in cemetery vandalism. Police arrested Charles
  "Chuck-Satan" Nealy Young in a bedroom closet. They say he's known to
  wear a necklace with the insignia "666." What a little devil he is, eh?
  http://star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:METRO21A/1:METRO21A0124100.html

# Water-2-wine? Try silver-2-gold! Some Xians now claim the Holy Spirit
  turns their silver fillings to gold. Says one believer who got her teeth
  upgraded by The Big Guy: "You just get goose bumps, you feel God loves
  you so much." http://www.latimes.com/news/front/2125/t07947.html
  And get more love than you can handle at http://www.obscurestore.com/

# Guatemala wants to arrest priest - involved in bishop's murder?
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563628333-77d
# Church of England allows remarriage - royals not excluded?
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/st

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THE HOUR OF THE TIME Tape No. 461:  "End Identity of the
Beast" Friday, October 14, 1994

Well, last night, I sort of left you with a revelation that many of you
were not prepared to receive.  And tonight I'm going to continue and
back it up with a lot of facts.

Remember, a lot of the meat of this little mini-series that we're doing
this week comes from a book entitled "Scarlet and the Beast", written
by John Daniel.  "Scarlet and the Beast", written by John Daniel.

Now, we've covered a lot of territory, and one of the points I made is
that the Beast must resemble, with at least fourteen points, exactly
ancient Rome.  So, we'll begin tonight setting out some of these
similarities between Rome and the United States of America.

 From 100 to 300 A.D., most of pagan Rome converted to
Christianity. And when this nation was founded, 67% of America's
population was Christian.  Christians in Rome suffered severe
persecution.  Christians in America were fleeing European
persecution.

Rome, ladies and gentlemen, in its time was the melting pot of the
world. And today, one of the well-known phrases is that America is
the melting pot of the world.

Rome was a democracy based upon a two-party system, the
"optimits"  and the "popularis" .  And the United States
of America, they say, is a democracy--it was really founded as a
republic--but today it is a democracy based upon a two-party
system, the Democrats and the Republicans.

Rome had a divided balance of power:  the Roman Tribune and his
Senate.  America has a divided balance of power.  The American
President and his Congress.

Rome was based on specific laws.  They had twelve tables.  America
is based upon specific laws:  our Constitution.

Rome protected the rights of its citizens.  America, up until recently,
protected the rights of its citizens.

In Rome, all men were equal.  That was the international law of
Rome.  In America, all men are equal according to the Declaration of
Independence. But let me set that straight.  All men in the Declaration
of Independence were created equal.  All men are not equal.  And in
Rome, all men, even though they said they were equal, were not.
Those are facts.  Look in history and you will see.

Rome had a sordid history of slavery.  America also had a sordid
history of slavery.

Rome was capitalistic.  America is capitalistic.

Rome practiced abortion as a means of population control.  And the
United States of America practices abortion as a form of birth
control.

Rome loved "R-rated" entertainment.  Look at the history of Pompeii.
And here in the United States of America we protect "R-rated"
entertainment under the First Amendment as freedom of speech.

Rome had a welfare program funded by taxes.  And you all know that
we also have a welfare budget and many take advantage of it.  In fact,
our welfare budget rivals our military budget.

Rome had a thriving business in lawsuits.  America also has a thriving
business in lawsuits.

Sports was Rome's past-time.  And in America, football dominates
fall and winter; basketball, winter and spring; and baseball, spring and
summer.  And I know some men who don't know anything more than
the sports statistics for their favorite teams, and they think they're
brilliant because of it.

Ancient Rome's national emblem was the single-headed eagle pointing
west.  America's national emblem is the single-headed eagle pointing
west.

 From 300 to 500 A.D., the Roman church was weakened spiritually
because of pagan infiltration.  And after 200 years, the church in
America has also been weakened spiritually because of Masonic
infiltration, which is nothing more than the ancient pagan religion of
Babylon.

So, we have not only met fourteen, ladies and gentlemen, we've gone
beyond fourteen--if you were counting.

Most historians also attribute the name "America" to the explorer
Amerigo Vespucci.  Freemasonry, however, has a different point of
view, and this will be new to most of you; for according to
Freemasonry, and author Manly Hall, a 33rd Degree Freemason, the
Indians in Central and South America say the name came from their
gods who were peace- loving.

For example, the supreme god of the Mayan culture of Central
America was known as Quetzalcotl , a light-skinned god who
wore a long white robe, covered with red crosses.  Carved in the
stones of his temples were serpents.  Quetzalcotl  was known
as the peace-loving serpent-god.  Serpent-god.

The same god in Peru was known as Ameru , the god of
peace. Ameru , the god of peace.  He was pictured as a
plumed serpent. Ameru's  territory was known as Ameruka
.  Ameruka .

The 1895 issue of the publication called "Lucifer", a periodical
published by Freemason Blavatsky's Theosophical Society, states
this, quote:

"From the latter comes our word "America".  "Ameruka"  is
literally translated "land of the plumed serpent".  The priests of this
god of peace once ruled the Americas.  All the red men w

[CTRL] Helms Urges New Beginning in U.N.-U.S. Relations

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Source:  Reuters
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Helms Urges New Beginning in U.N.-U.S. Relations

By Anthony Goodman

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Jesse Helms, one of the most powerful
American
senators, in a Security Council speech on Thursday called for a new
beginning in U.N.-U.S. relations -- and then set about smashing some of
the
most cherished icons in the temple of international diplomacy.

``If the United Nations is to survive into the 21st century, it must
recognize its limitations,'' he said in a speech filled with warnings
against U.N. dictation over U.S. foreign or domestic affairs.

``As matters now stand, many Americans sense that the U.N. has greater
ambitions than simply being an efficient deliverer of humanitarian aid,
a
more effective peacekeeper, a better weapons inspector, and a more
effective tool of great power diplomacy,'' said the arch-conservative
Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and one of
the most vocal critics of the United Nations in the U.S. Congress, .

``They see the U.N. aspiring to establish itself as the central
authority
of a new international order of global laws and global governance. This
is
an international order the American people will not countenance,'' he
said.

Although he spoke in the Security Council chamber, at the invitation of
council President Richard Holbrooke of the United States, the meeting
was
not billed as a formal council meeting.

As council members and others anticipated a tongue-lashing, Helms opened
by
saying -- perhaps superfluously -- that ``it may very well be that some
of
the things I feel obliged to say will not meet with your immediate
approval, if at all.''

U.S. Not 'Deadbeat Nation' Says Helms

He then went on to reject charges that the United States was a
``deadbeat
nation'' for not paying its U.N. dues on time; said Americans would
never
accept the United Nations as the ``sole source of legitimacy on the use
of
force'' in the world; denounced plans for an international criminal
court
as ``a power grab;'' and charged that, ``more often than not,
'international law' has been used as a make-believe justification for
hindering the march of freedom.''

While the United States had agreed, under certain conditions, to pay
$926
million toward even larger U.N. arrears, it actually spent $8.779
billion
last year to support what Helms said were ``various U.N. resolutions and
peacekeeping operations around the world.''

He was referring to U.S. forces in such places as Bosnia and Kosovo
which,
while authorized by the Security Council, do not count as U.N.
operations.

Americans ``know instinctively that the U.N. lives and breathes on the
hard-earned money of the American taxpayer,'' while hearing ``U.N.
officials declaring absurdly that countries like Fiji and Bangladesh are
carrying America's burden in peacekeeping,'' he said.

The American people had a ``long history of coming to the aid of those
struggling for freedom.'' It was a ``fanciful notion that free peoples
need
to seek the approval of an international body (some of whose members are
totalitarian dictatorships) to lend support to nations struggling to
break
the chains of tyranny and claim their inalienable, God-given rights.''

While national sovereignty must be respected, nations lost their
legitimacy
when they ruled without the consent of the governed and brutally
oppressed
their people, Helms said.

``Slobodan Milosevic cannot claim sovereignty over Kosovo when he has
murdered Kosovars and piled their bodies into mass graves. Neither can
Fidel Castro claim that it his sovereign right to oppress his people.
Nor
can Saddam Hussein defend his oppression of the Iraqi people hiding
behind
phony claims of sovereignty,'' Helms said.

Helms Issues Warning

``I am here to plead from now on we must all work together, to learn
from
past mistakes,'' he said. ``But candor compels that I reiterate this
warning: the American people will never accept the claims of the United
Nations to be the 'sole source of legitimacy on the use of force' in the
world.''

Referring to reports that the prosecutor of the U.N. Yugoslav war crimes
tribunal had looked into possible NATO violations during the Kosovo
campaign, he said any attempt to indict NATO commanders ``would be the
death knell for the International Criminal Court (ICC).''

``No U.N. institution -- not the Security Council not the Yugoslav
tribunal, not a future ICC -- is competent to judge the foreign policy
and
national security decisions of the United States,'' Helms declared.

While Ame

[CTRL] They Live" was 99% accurate!! - David Icke E Zine

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"They Live" was 99% accurate!!




Greetings,

About a decade ago, a gentleman who, for his own protection and that of his
family, shall remain anonymous, told me personally that the U.S. government
had gravitational propulsion since 1948.

This individual was the author of several books and was very successful in
the financial world and had been an economics advisor to several Latin
American countries. This man was the epitome of credibility.

He then suggested that each individual in our group should see the movie,
"They Live", which was a B-grade Scifi flick starring the wrestler "Rowdy
Roddy Piper". The theme of the movie was that the world was being controlled
by freakish looking aliens who had the whole population of the earth brain
washed and blind to their appearance.

Mr. X, as I will call him said the movie was 99% accurate!!

All these years later and I picked-up the book by David Icke, "The Biggest
Secret", and I knew what was told to me all those years ago was true. I
suspected that "the devil" had to be a flesh and blood being and was at the
center of the terrestrial power structure.

Mr.X also said the likes of the Rockefellers and others held "black masses"
and participated in blood drinking rituals, etc.

Had I not been told about this reality by someone of very high calibre and
credibility, I might have dismissed David's representations out of hand.

Now all the pieces of the puzzle come together. The time must be very close
when the "Dragon" will become very upset over his exposure and will surely
move quickly to consolidate his power.

I have also been told that an NSA agent confirmed the existence of aliens and
also an FBI agent said "they" have been here since from the beginning.

My friend who was a B-25 bomber pilot in WWII, told me a classic abduction
story which took place in the late 30's near Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio.
After the second abduction, this individual came down with an ailment called
polysythemia, which is the over production of red blood cells.

I have the very distinct feeling things are going to heat up very rapidly
from this point. No wonder why they wanted to control the internet. The truth
is finally getting out.

I just hope there is a Christ-like spirit that will come to our aid when all
hell breaks loose in the very near future.

Regards,
RIM
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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
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Amen.
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In the first of a two-part series, Gibby Zobel uncovers how the global
power elite decides our future at the shadowy Bilderberg Summit each
year. Documents from the secret summit - leaked to The Big Issue -
reveal what they said about money and war

For nearly 50 years an elite group of the West's most powerful men and
women, a shadow world government, have met in secret. Tony Blair is in
the club. Every US president since Ike Eisenhower has been too. So are
top members of the British Government. So are the people who control
what you watch and read - the media barons. Which is why you may never
have heard of Bilderberg.

"Lines of black limousines, unmarked except for a 'B' on the windscreen,
swept in, sometimes accompanied by police escorts, sometimes not," says
an eyewitness of this year's meeting in Portugal. "A helicopter was
overhead, and other security officers were prudently patrolling the
hillsides. The policy on duty at the gates made it crystal clear that
they were only the tip of the security iceberg."

For two-and-a-half days, relaxing in exclusive luxury amid vast armed
security, the powerful leaders discussed past and future wars, a
European superstate, a global currency, genetics, and the dismantling of
the welfare state. Unaccountable, untroubled and unreported, the
Bilderberg meetings have formed the basis of international policy for
decades.

Last year freelance journalist Campbell Thomas was arrested just for
knocking on doors near the clandestine gathering in Turnberry, Scotland.
He remained in custody for eight hours. Other journalists were told that
even the Bilderberg menu was confidential (a move they named
'Kippergate'). A serving police officer told 'The Big Issue': "Special
Branch and CIA were everywhere - they were calling the shots."

Never in its 47-year history has the content of these discussions been
made public. Until now. 'The Big Issue' has uncovered the Bilderberg
Papers - the secret minutes of this year's meeting in Portugal. Some of
it is banal, some of it sensational. It blows the lid off the thoughts
of presidents, chairmen of multinational companies, world bankers, Nato
chiefs and defence ministers.

The meetings are shrouded in such secrecy that Prime Minister Tony
Blair, when asked last year in the House of Commons, failed to disclosed
his own attendance at Bilderberg in Athens in 1993.

So, what have they been hiding?

- Nato gave Russia carte blanche to bomb Chechnya

- 'Dollarisation' could be the the next step after the single European
currency

- A senior British politician thinks New Labour is "consolidating the
victories of the Right". On welfare cuts he adds: "It might be easier
for somebody who claimed to be a socialist to impose change."

- After Kosovo Nato is in danger of mimicking a colonial power

Although 14 media chiefs and journalists from across eight countries
attended this year, none of them chose to tell their readers of the
meeting. It would not serve their interests to be cut out of the elite
loop. With an invite-only guest-list, covert operations and such
deafening silence, it is little surprise that conspiracy theories have
thrived, from the anti-semites who believe in a Jewish global elite, to
the paranoid delusions of the radical left. The effect has been to leave
the importance of the meetings tainted by association. It suits the
Bilderbergers perfectly.

The Bilderberg meetings began in a Dutch hotel on May 29 1954, from
where it gets its name. 'The Economist', in a rare reference to it in
1987, said that the importance of the meetings was overplayed but
admitted: "When you have scaled the Bilderberg, you have arrived."

At last year's meeting, former defence minister George Robertson, who is
now Nato secretary-general, planned strategies with the Bilderberg chair
and ex-Nato chief Lord Carrington.

'Observer' editor-in-chief Will Hutton attended Bilderberg in 1997. He
believes that it is the home of the "high priests of globalisation". "No
policy is made here," he says, "it is all talk. But the consensus
established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide."

The 64-page leaked document - The Bilderberg Papers - is dated August
1999. The powerful transatlantic clique at the private hideaway included
new Northern Ireland secretary Peter Mandelson MP, environmentalist
Jonathon Porritt, Kenneth Clarke MP, former US secretary of state Henry
Kissinger, billionaire oil and banking tycoon David Rockefeller,
Monsanto chief Robert B Shapiro, and the head of the World Bank, James D
Wolfensohn.

Although Asian and African politics and economics were discussed the
continents' countries ha

[CTRL] FW: Burma Out! Feds vs. States: Massachusetts Burma Law

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forwarded...

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To: Dave
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Burma Out!

Please post.


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>From Seattle to Sydney?
Of its kind :  The most powerful communications group
in existance

 Stand up to the WTO!
Support democracy!

 Rally for the Massachusetts Burma Law!

 March 22,  9:00 AM, Supreme Court Building

 Why is the Massachusetts Burma Law important?

 The Supreme Court has decided to hear the case being made against the
Massachusetts Burma Law.  The Court's decision will have far-reaching
implications for the future of democracy and the way in which non-violent
pressure may be exerted on military dictatorships and human rights abusers.

 Modeled on the legislation that was so successful in putting economic
pressure on the apartheid regime in South Africa, the Massachusetts Burma
Law
effectively bars companies that do business in  Burma from receiving state
contracts.  In other words, if you support the military dictatorship in
Burma,
the Massachusetts state government will not give you its business.

 However, European and Japanese companies have successfully persuaded the
 European Union and the Japanese government to challenge the Massachusetts
Burma Law as unfair trade barriers  At the same time, the National Foreign
Trade Council  (NFTC) - a group of about 600 multinational corporations -
via
its legal  front USA Engage has brought suit  against the Massachusetts
Burma Law
in U.S. federal court alleging that the law in unconstitutional.

The U.S. Federal Appeals Court in Boston struck down the Massachusetts
 Burma Law agreeing with the corporate argument that the law interferes with
the U.S. federal government's foreign affairs

 powers. What evidence did the NFTC offer as proof  that Massachusetts had
interfered in foreign policy?  The fact that the  European Union and Japan
had challenged the Massachusetts Burma Law at the WTO!

 If it stands, this ruling could result in the courts striking down
numerous
 state and local laws that affect trade and investment by  powerful foreign
corporations.  In a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court,  the Massachusetts
Attorney General argues that the  court's reliance on trade complaints -
inevitable rows in an era of global procurement - grants to foreign
countries
and foreign firms a "heckler's veto" against state laws.

 If the U.S. Supreme Court upholds the lower court's ruling that the
Massachusetts Burma Law is unconstitutional, then we, the
citizens of the United States, will lose our right to direct how our state
governments spend our tax dollars. We have a right to say that our tax money
should not go to companies that support dictators,  such as the Burmese
military junta.

We must support the Massachusetts Burma Law.  We must join in solidarity
 to  support democracy in Burma. Come join our rally on March 22nd at 9 AM
in front of the Supreme Court and help bring  democracy to Burma.

 Contact Dan Beeton for more information: (202) 265-3263 x. 284, or at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], or visit the Free Burma Coalition at
www.freeburmacoalition.org

 "Until we have a system that guarantees rule of law and basic democratic
 institutions, no amount of aid or investment will benefit
 our people."

 >   - Aung San Suu Kyi, democratically elected leader of Burma.

Follow the plea by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, and the appreciations
of HH the Dalai Lama, the Shan Democratic Union,  film maker John
Pilger, the Free Burma Coalition,  author Alan Clements, Dennis
Skinner MP, Tony Benn MP, Ann Clwyd MP, Congress-woman
Maxine Waters,  Socialist Workers' Party,  Dr and Welsh rugby
star JPR Williams, Hendrix  bassist Noel Redding,  S African jazz
pianist Abdullah Ibrahim,  All Burma Students Democratic
Organisation,  All Burma Students Democratic Front, Tasmanian
Trades & Labour Council,  SACP (South African Communist Party),
COSATU,  Tim Gopsill, editor.  [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
numerous others.

Supporting a Genuine war upon drugs and human rights abuse.
Sydney 2000 : Burma Out!
http://www.mihra.org/2K/burma.htm

Music Industry Human Rights Association
http://www.mihra.org / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union Action http://www.mihra.org/2K/Union.htm

Unchained profits : The "New Rachel" page.
http//:www.mihra.org/2K/rachel.htm

Founded during UN50. Mihra's roots are in music and anti-racism and
was first in line in calling for a sports boycott of Burma for the Sydney
2000 Olympic Games. Mihra also advances protection of creators rights
in an anti-cultural market, currently 93.8% monopolised by the recording
/ publishing Grand Cartel.

Major solo work "Piece of Mind". With 

[CTRL] Fwd: China

[Kris Millegan]

STRATFOR.COM's Global Intelligence Update - 26 January 2000


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The Geopolitics of Caspian Oil
http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/specialreports/special20.htm

CIS States Give In to Moscow
http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/c0001260125.htm

Beijing Factions Face Off Over Corruption
http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special106.htm
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STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update
26 January 2000


China's New Naval Strategy


Summary

In the first exercise of its kind, the Chinese People's Liberation
Army/Navy (PLAN) conducted maneuvers involving several small
missile craft more than 250 nautical miles from the Chinese
mainland. Although the PLAN has openly aspired to develop an ocean-
going capacity, most of its efforts have focused on acquiring a
larger number of major surface vessels capable of long-range
deployments. It seems that now, faced with an unstable security
environment and an uncertain economy making it difficult to
purchase new major surface combatants, the PLAN may have found a
way to utilize its fleet of small attack craft as an effective and
less costly - though less capable - interim solution.


Analysis

A formation of Chinese light combat vessels recently engaged in a
combined naval exercise more than 250 nautical miles from the
country's coast, reported the Jiefangjun Bao newspaper Jan. 17. It
was the first time these types of vessels - including fast guided-
missile ships, escort vessels, submarine chasers and corvettes -
had conducted exercises outside coastal waters.

To understand Chinese naval strategy, it is important to have a
general understanding of naval strategy. The primary strategic aim
of a navy is to defend a nation's shores. As economic and strategic
interests increase, the navy's role expands to include power
projection capabilities. The evolution of the PLAN has followed
this pattern almost exactly. It has been, and still is, limited to
a coastal defense role. However, it has slowly enlarged its ocean-
going capability. This is a function of a new strategic focus for
the Chinese military.

In the late 1990s, the Chinese military shifted from a doctrine
concerned with a defensive ground war to a doctrine based on a more
balanced, flexible and smaller military able to operate outside of
territorial waters. This new doctrine concentrates on force and
force projection rather than simply on national defense. The
centerpiece of this emerging doctrine has been the PLAN, which in
the past had been regarded as the least important among all the
services.

Several factors contributed to this strategic shift. Paramount
among them is a sense of unease throughout region, including
economic fluctuations, an unclear picture of the U.S. commitment to
the area and uncertainty over the emerging Japanese role in the
region. A second factor affecting China's military strategy is
energy security. China is the largest consumer of oil outside of
the United States. China will need to rely more on imported oil to
sustain its economic growth. Much of this oil is transported by
sea, thus the increased importance of safeguarding sea lines of
communication (SLOC). A third factor is an inherent need for China
to achieve regional military supremacy to assert authority over
neighboring states. Two classic examples are the breakaway province
of Taiwan and the strategic and potentially mineral rich Spratly
Islands.

China's ability to address the above factors hinges on the PLAN's
force structure. The PLAN has over 1,100 warships, more than three
times the number of ships in the U.S. Navy. However, unlike the
U.S. Navy, the PLAN, aside from its submarine force, is more geared
toward a coastal defensive role. It consists of only 54 major
combatants, such as destroyers, frigates and submarines
[http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu2000/012600b.ASP], accounting
for only 5 percent of the total number of ships. The rest of the
navy consists of patrol craft, mine-warfare vessels and a small
amphibious force.

In the short term, the PLAN is developing a "green water"
capability, meaning the ability to operate out to the first island
chain - all areas to the west of a line running from Japan, the
Senkaku islands, Taiwan and the west coast of Borneo. By 2020, the
PLAN aims to have the ability to expand this force into a "blue
water" capable navy, a force able to assert control over the second
island chain, including areas west of the Kuril Islands down to the
Mariana islands and Papua New Guinea.
[http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu2000/012600a.ASP]

Inside the green water line, PLAN strategy would need to focus on
controlli

[CTRL] [NA] Iowa and Two Magic Black Boxes

[lloyd]

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..

>From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.htmlFrom: Jim Condit Jr. 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [NA] Iowa and Two Magic Black Boxes
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 5:34 AM

www.networkamerica.org

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin

January 22, 2000 NA e-wire

Iowa and Two Magic “Black Boxes”

It’s important to get this e-wire out BEFORE the Iowa Caucuses. It
concerns the fact that the Big 4 Networks are hedging their bets on the
highly mysterious public opinion polls they’ve been pushing for the last
two months. It also concerns the highly mysterious “entrance poll”
projection which Peter Jennings and the AP wire poll released in the1996
Iowa Caucuses at 1 minute after 7 PM – before any caucus votes had been
cast. Will they do such a projection again this time?

As we’ve mentioned before in these e-wires, there are three magic “black
boxes” (into which the American public is not allowed to look) which
constitute the arsenal of psychological weapons being used by the Ruling
Elite to prepare the American people for ever more comprehensive
subjugation in the reigning techno-tyranny.

This is not a World War II era subjugation as the reader may have
already conjured up – barbed wire, tattered clothes. No. This is an
updated subjugation; a subjugation of spirit where we are allowed to go
to McDonald’s and watch TV — but where we come to instinctively know and
accept that we must not expect to have any real say in how our country
is run, who our leaders will be, or what the future will become.

This techno-tyranny is already totally in place. The only hold outs are
the Iowa Caucuses and most of New Hampshire.

This e-wire concerns the first two of these magic “black boxes”: Public
Opinion Polls and Exit Polls — and the relationship of these to the
imminent Iowa Caucuses on January 24, 2000. The third magic “black box”
– computer generated election results – do NOT apply in the Iowa
Caucuses, as the 2000+ caucuses meet, vote on paper ballots, and count
the votes immediately in front of the neighborhoods participants.

Which is why we see the Big 4 TV stations again hedging their bets at
the last minute. In 1996, ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN had consistently
announced for three weeks leading up to the caucus day of February 12,
1996 that their public opinion polls showed Dole at 28%, Forbes at 26%,
and Buchanan at 12%. ALL FOUR announced this CONTINUOUSLY for the three
weeks prior to the day of the Caucus. I know. I was there and I saw it.
This did NOT correspond to what we were seeing on the ground, but I
wondered: did the New York based networks have a way to register public
opinion more accurately than those of us on the ground could measure it?

THEN, on February 10th, 1996, two days before the 1996 Caucus, all four
of the Big TV hoaxters announced that they had to abandon all
predictions because Forbes’ “negative” advertising had pushed so many
people to “undecided.” I submit to you that the real reason the Big 4 TV
networks abandoned their polls is because 1) they had been lying to try
and destroy enthusiasm for Buchanan (who, remember, was consistently
attracting 200 to 500 people per public appearance while Dole was
attracting his own staff as attested to by Candy Crowley of CNN on
national TV, and the geek-y Forbes who attracted small unenthusiastic
crowds in his few public appearances in Iowa); and 2) there would be an
actual and honest ballot count at 2000+ locations in the Iowa Caucuses,
which meant that there would not be a centralized computer tally that
could be manipulated to make the phony public opinion polls come true.
(Voter News Service did skew the vote in Dubuque County as detailed on
our website in Archives, shorting Buchanan 13% of his vote there, and
VNS probably skewed it statewide enough to steal the victory from
Buchanan. The votefraud in Dubuque County was detected by comparing the
actual tally sheets from Dubuque County, which our team had seen the
night before along with all other interested parties in Dubuque County,
-- against the results published in the Des Moines Register and Cedar
Rapids Gazette the morning after, as give to those papers by the AP
wire. But, in the Iowa Caucuses, unlike in the Big Computerized states,
this was dangerous business for Voter New Service, as the altering of
the actual results could be detected IF eye-witnesses had been in every
caucus across the state of Iowa in 1996 -- like we had activated in
Dubuque County. Then today we would know for sure if Voter News Service
had altered the vote in every county in 1996 in order to steal the
victory from Buchanan and give it to establishment lackey and favorite
Bob Dole.)

The final count in 1996 in the Iowa Caucus

[CTRL] Gore dismisses allegations on marijuana use (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Gore dismisses allegations on marijuana use

Updated 12:40 AM ET January 25, 2000
DAVENPORT, Iowa

(Reuters) - Vice President Al Gore Monday dismissed as old and
inaccurate news a report that he was a regular marijuana user
when he returned from Vietnam in 1971.

In an interview with an NBC affiliate in Iowa on Monday, Gore was
asked about a report that he was a daily user while a reporter in
Tennessee in his 20s.

"This came up in '87 or '88 and I dealt with it a long time ago,"
Gore said. Gore said he had not smoked since he first ran for
public office and flatly denied daily usage.

He said he used marijuana "when I came back from Vietnam, yes,
but not to that extent."

"This is something I dealt with a long time ago. It is old news.
When I was young I did things young people do. When I grew up, I
put away childish things," Gore told reporters.

The allegation that Gore used marijuana daily while working for
the Tennessean newspaper was made by John Warnecke, who worked
with Gore in the 1970s.

Warnecke gave his account to Newsweek reporter Bill Turque for a
biography of Gore. It began to leak out after Newsweek last week
delayed a planned excerpt of the book, "Inventing Al Gore: A
Biography,"

Warnecke told the Washington Post in an interview from his
California home on Monday that he knew Gore "very, very well" as
a friend and a next-door neighbor in Nashville and later raised
money for his campaigns.

The Post quoted him as saying that Gore used marijuana until the
week he announced his candidacy for the House in 1976, or about
four years later than the vice president has maintained.

Warnecke told the Post he gave a different account in 1987, when
Gore was gearing up to run for president because Gore repeatedly
pressured him to "stonewall" and "not to tell the truth" about
their drug use. He said he felt "intimidated" by Gore.




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[CTRL] CBS: What Really Happened At Waco (fwd)

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From:

http://www.cbs.com/now/story/0,1597,153120-311,00.shtml

[CBS hired an expert to watch the infrared video and give his
opinion on whether it shows gunfire against the Davidians.  See
the answer below in this article based on Tuesday's "60 Minutes
II" show. --MS]

(CBS) What really occurred outside Waco on April 19, 1993? Is the
U.S. government responsible for the deaths of more than 70 men,
women and children at the Branch Davidian compound?

For years anti-government conspiracy theorists have argued that
the answer was yes. Today the Waco incident is the subject of two
congressional investigations, an independent counsel and a
multimillion-dollar civil lawsuit against the government.

Many new details about the disaster have come to light only
recently.

Today virtually all of the evidence from Waco, much of it
paperwork from the many different government agencies involved,
is stored in a secured room in Waco. The federal judge handling
the civil trial ordered it collected and stockpiled, so that it
could not be tampered with.

That evidence may provide some new answers to what actually
happened at the Branch Davidian compound outside Waco. Dan Rather
investigates.

###

"In the last two months, three months, we've learned more about
what happened than we did in the preceding six and a half years,"
says Michael Caddell, a Houston attorney representing survivors
and family members of the Branch Davidians in their suit against
the government.

Caddell says that the government has not accepted its share of
the responsibility for those deaths.

It all started nearly seven years ago with a February 1993 raid
by more than 70 agents from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and
Firearms. David Koresh and his followers, the Branch Davidians,
were known to have a large cache of high-powered weapons. The ATF
also suspected that the group had explosives and the parts to
manufacture machine guns illegally. When it arrived to search the
compound, shooting started almost immediately.

Afterward, four ATF agents and six Branch Davidians were dead.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation moved in, and a lengthy
standoff ensued. For more than seven frustrating weeks, the FBI
tried to persuade the Davidians to come out.

"The FBI's job was to try to resolve this matter and convince
these people to come out and face multiple first-degree murder
charges in the state that leads the nation in capital
punishment," says Byron Sage, head of the FBI negotiating team in
Waco. "It was virtually an insurmountable task."

The standoff ended on the morning of April 19, when a tank and
other FBI armored vehicles moved in. The FBI spent the next
several hours shooting tear gas into the compound. Shortly after
noon, the building was engulfed in flames.

"I called in immediately, over the loudspeaker system," Sage
remembers. "And I said, 'You know, David, don't do this to those
people. This is not the way to end this.'"

By the end of the day, more than 70 men, women and children were
dead.

"I would submit to you that we played right into the hands of
David Koresh," says Sage, now retired. "He had an apocalyptic end
in mind apparently. And he used us to fulfill his own prophecy."

Did the FBI and the Justice Department contribute in some way to
that apocalyptic end - either by pushing the Davidians to the
brink as the assault on the compound progressed or by doing
something that could have caused the fire?

Independent filmmaker Michael McNulty came upon some evidence
that appeared damaging to the government. He found a shell casing
from a certain type of tear gas round that could start a fire - a
device the Justice Department had denied using for more than six
years - publicly and to Congress.

"Congress was mislead on this; there is no question about it,"
says Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Johnston, the top justice
department official in Waco. He worries that someone in the
Justice Department hid the truth.

For several weeks Johnston wrote to his superiors warning them
that the new evidence contradicted what they had been saying. But
the Justice Department did not change its story until August,
when Attorney General Janet Reno was forced to admit that the
tear gas round had been used.

Investigators have concluded that two of these devices were used.
Though credible experts still overwhelmingly believe the
Davidians started the fire, the damage had been done. The FBI was
caught in a lie.

Sage says that nothing was hidden on purpose. "It's not a case of
coverup," he says. "And I would have to say that it is a case of
screwup. It was not flagged for its importance. Therefore, it's
taken on a life of its own."

The admission breathed life into conspiracy theories that
surround the Waco case. Sage blames the FBI for not addressing
accusations more seriously.

"I told the bureau a while back that in Texas, if your eye starts
stinging and your nose hurts and you reach up and you've got
bloo

Re: [CTRL] [MC] database

[Jabr 333]

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Kathy:  If you can't put out far more usable emails that this, I would like
to see your sick, compromised, sold-out to Intel butt burned on TV.  Get the
shit outta here.  Delgado RAN the implant scenario in the U.S. for some 15
years at least on innocent assaulted humans.  I can not believe what I have
seen YOU delve out to REAL victims on this list since two years ago.  Frankly
I want your ass kicked, front and center for having put me and alot of other
victims through your CIA/.FBI CRAP -- who the hell do you think you are
helping here??  Because my main job as a victim is to bring this fucker OUT,
not harm people's observations, not assault them verbally -- HEY -- Wes, who
is paying her   Get her off the list or silenced some wayno cult is
supporting me nor are Intel agencies -- NO WAY... I am working free form for
the better good of victims and society -- this I pride myself on my
independence  --- FUCK YOU KASDEN -- if you can't do better than assault
victims get off the listsI REPEAT-- FUCK YOU... get your little rec
vehicle OUT of everybody else's lives, Kasden we don't need a sell-out
working for UCLAin our midst...I have heard,  lived with enough of your
shit...amazing that I have to say this to a woman.  Frankly, I am embarrassed
to death and I ain't even Lesbian, guy...take your Intel or cult or
mis-placed hatred someplace else ... there are a few of us who don't
appreciate your juvenile statements...and if you continue this crap a few of
us  may not stop hitting on you.  FUCK OFF>>


Judith



In a message dated 1/24/00 11:10:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Subj: RE: Re: [MC]  database
 Date:  1/24/00 11:10:53 AM Eastern Standard Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kasten, Kathy)
 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]'), [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Mick:
 Now that you have presented some of the
 background of your theory, I would like
 to analyze it with an example to refute
 it using one of your latest retrievals.

 One of the names you utilized as a "key word"
 for your search was "delgado."  This is a most
 common name in some parts of Los Angeles, CA.
 The name of the MSO who ran the business office
 of the Dept. of Path. when I first started
 working here was name J. Delgado.  No, not "J"
 for Jose, but "J" for Judy.  Without further
 qualification, if I was to do a search for
 "delgado", I would retrieve everything single
 bit of information with the word "delgado" attached
 to it.  Using the letter "j" I would retrieve
 everybody whose first name began with "j."
 To assume that all the lines of information
 I retrieved from the database had to do with
 Dr. Jose Delgado would be an error on my part.

 Once again, I must ask you, what other
 c >>

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[CTRL] Fw: US money - Soviet germs

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Date: Wednesday, 26 January 2000 19:00
Subject: [TheEagle-L] US money - Soviet germs


http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/012500russia-us-germ.html

U.S. Aid Is Diverted to Germ Warfare,
Russian Scientists Say

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U.S. Helps Russia Turn Germ Center to Peace Uses

  By JUDITH MILLER

Some of the American money awarded to support Russia's civilian
biological research was secretly shifted to Biopreparat, a shadowy
organization that once directed the Soviet Union's germ warfare program,
several Russian scientists say.

American officials, who for five years have walked a delicate line in
providing aid to Russia, remain suspicious about the activities of
Biopreparat, which has been reborn as a state-owned drug company.

The Americans are concerned because of its continuing secrecy and
because it is led by the same military and intelligence officers who
spearheaded and concealed the Soviet Union's biological weapons programs
during the cold war.

Separately, Clinton administration officials acknowledged that the
United States had been less than meticulous in the mid-1990's in
enforcing its ban on aid to Biopreparat.

Records show that the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and
the United States Agency for International  Development made grants in
that period that benefited
Biopreparat. Administration officials said today that they had tightened
their procedures. "There's been a learning curve," one administration
official said.

A spokesman for the space agency said it would investigate whether any
American aid money had been diverted to the organization and would
withhold $1.6 million in assistance until Moscow accounted for its
spending of previous grants.

Officials at A.I.D. said they had not been aware of Biopreparat's
history and should have checked with national security officials before
approving aid to a joint venture that involved the organization.

Russian biologists familiar with Biopreparat said its director, Gen.
Yuri T. Kalinin, had shifted at least 10 percent of several NASA grants
intended for biological research in space to his organization.

General Kalinin has headed Biopreparat since its inception in 1973, and
Western officials say he is the focal point of concern among American
and British intelligence analysts about whether Moscow has fully given
up research into germ warfare and what Acting President Vladimir V.
Putin will decide.

"The Russian government is facing a key test," said Amy E. Smithson, a
defense expert at the Henry L. Stimson Center in Washington, who said
Russian scientists had told her in confidence about diversions of money.
"Either Putin will support the old guard of biological cold warriors,
exemplified by Kalinin and his cronies, or scientists who want to put
their biological warfare knowledge to
peaceful use."

Asked today about the scientist's accusations, a spokesman for
Biopreparat declined to comment. Neither General Kalinin, a former
intelligence officer, nor any senior Biopreparat official who was active
in the Soviet germ warfare program would agree to talk about
Biopreparat's current or past activities.



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