[CTRL] irs handgun registration and tax

2000-03-18 Thread lloyd

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Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 11:29 AM

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Senator Reed (D-RI) has introduced S. 2099, The
Handgun Safety and
Registration Act of 2000. Its stated purpose is: "To
amend the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of
handguns, and for other
purposes."

This particular legislation has so many references to
other legislation that
it's difficult to figure out what some of it is
actually saying. (Once our
amendment on "Legislation" is adopted, they would no
longer be allowed to
insult us in this manner.) However, several provisions
are perfectly clear.
They are:

1. There will be a $50 tax on the transfer of
ownership of a handgun with
the identity of the purchaser registered with the IRS.

2.  Everyone who owns a handgun will be required
to register it with the
IRS and pay the $50 tax. (If you don't register, you
automatically become a
criminal for doing nothing.)

3.  The IRS will post the name and address of all
owners of handguns
online. (This allows the criminals to pick the homes
to burglarize to steal
handguns which are hot, high-priced items on the
street.  Much, much more
profitable than television sets.) (And they wonder why
we call them the
pro-crime bunch.)

Do not forget, there has never been a registration
program anywhere in
the world that did not lead to confiscation.

This bill has been referred to the Finance
Committee for consideration.
Request that you do three things on this one.

1. Write or call your own Senator.

(2) E-mail every member of the Finance Committee.
(Complete list with e-mail
addresses is printed below) If he is not from your
state, do not include your
address. And, please, please, make them individual
e-mails. "Mass" mailings
are, generally, ignored.

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every member of the
committee. But before you do, get your Atlas out and
pick out the name of a
small town in that Senator's State. That's where you
live for the purposes of
the call.

Pay particular attention to Orin Hatch. (Multiple
phone calls? Sure.) Earlier
this year when he was considering a run for the
Presidency he was touting
registration.

Please send this request out to every list you
have. Our boycott of
Citibank found its way into a number of different
organizations that joined
in and you know how well that worked - Citibank caved.
Let's do it again.

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[CTRL] China seeks U.S. Hellfire Missiles for backengineering (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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March 17, 2000
Inside the Ring

Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough
Notes from the Pentagon.

China seeks Hellfire

Chinese military agents secretly tried to buy one of the Army's
most effective weapons: the Hellfire anti-tank guided missile.

According to Pentagon intelligence officials, Chinese agents
recently approached the government of Egypt and offered to buy
one of 900 Hellfires purchased by Cairo in recent years from the
United States. The Hellfire is a laser-guided missile carried by
the Army's AH-64 Apache attack helicopters and OH-58 Kiowa scout
helicopters.  The Marines also use Hellfires on their AH-1 Super
Cobra helicopters. The missile is guided to its targets by a
laser designator operated by a ground spotter, weapons officer in
another aircraft or from the firing helicopter.  The laser
guidance makes it extremely accurate against the most heavily
armored tanks and vehicles.

China is believed to want the missile for reverse-engineering.
China's defense industries are notorious for acquiring one or two
weapons systems, taking them apart and building their own
version.

The weapons are then used with People's Liberation Army forces
and sold abroad to Beijing's many customers, nations often
regarded by the United States as rogue states or supporters of
international terrorism, like Iran and North Korea.

A State Department official said the Egyptian government agreed
not to resell the missiles as part of the purchase arrangement.
Cairo has not been warned against the sale, the official said.

Obtaining Hellfires would augment a Chinese army increasingly
viewed as a potential U.S. enemy.

Adm.  Dennis Blair, commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, told
the House Armed Services Committee hearing this week that Chinese
leaders believe resolving the Taiwan dispute "may come to
fighting."

As for the so-called policy of "ambiguity" about a U.S.  defense
of Taiwan in the event of a mainland attack, Adm. Blair made it
clear the U.S.  military is ready.  "As far as the military
situation, I hope I made it clear the ambiguity is the political
decision, not the military capabilities.  The PRC cannot take and
hold Taiwan, and we can defend Taiwan if ordered.  And that's
what will happen."

Dogfight The Air Force has gone to the dogs in its perennial
battle to keep birds away from flight paths.  The game is deadly
serious: Air Force fighters, bombers and cargo planes suffer
3,000 bird strikes annually.  The collisions have cost the
service 15 aircraft and the lives of 33 crew members over the
past 16 years.

Air base commanders have tried pyrotechnics, rifle shots,
remotely controlled boats and other scare tactics to scatter
geese, ducks, hawks and other birds large enough to bring down
multimillion-dollar aircraft.

Today, the Air Force is turning to man's best friend.  At least
three bases have contracted with dog handlers, who release the
canines to chase away flocks of fowl. For example, the
marsh-surrounded base at Dover, Del., home to giant, four-engine
C-5 cargo jets, uses border collies.

"The idea started with golf courses," said Maj.  Peter Windler,
chief of the Bird-Wildlife Aircraft Strike Hazard (BASH) office
at Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M.  "They're really good at running
them off the fairways and into the water. "They work pretty
good," he added.

"They are very controllable.  They come back to you.  They are
very responsive to handlers. That's very good in an airfield
where you have planes flying all over the place.  If we make it
uncomfortable for birds, they will go someplace else."

A fighter canopy can withstand the splatter of a four-pound bird
at 575 mph. That same bird, however, can disable an open-mouth
jet engine.

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[CTRL] Government's license to harass (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Government's license to harass

March 17, 2000

If pro is the opposite of con, a wise man once said, then
progress must be the antonym of Congress.

That proverb (opposite of converb?) never rang more true with me
than it has this week in the aftermath of a congressional
whitewash of Internal Revenue Service political audits.

The investigation began when Rep. Bill Archer, co-chairman of the
Joint Committee on Taxation, was incensed by evidence put forth
by me in 1996 about the audit of my non-profit news organization,
the Western Journalism Center.

I'm sure Archer was quite sincere about seeking justice and
accountability for an abuse of power by the White House. But
Archer must have forgotten who he was playing against. You see,
this White House fights dirty. And Bill Archer is a nice guy
winding down a long career in Congress. It was no match.

All the White House operatives had to do was put their hands on a
few requests Archer had made to the IRS in the past. That's
right. One of the perks of being a member of the House or Senate,
evidently, is being able to sic the most feared agency in the
U.S. government on enemies. And Archer, according to an
Associated Press report, had made referrals, too.

That, for all intents and purposes, was the end of any credible
and meaningful investigation of Clinton's abuse of the IRS.

So, this scandal, like so many others we have endured during the
last seven years, simply became another case of "everybody does
it."

Do you remember the "everybody does it" defense? How often did we
hear that during the campaign finance hearings? How many times
did we hear it when Chinagate first broke? How many times did we
hear it during the impeachment trial?

That's the legacy of the Clinton administration. Everybody breaks
the law, so nobody gets punished anymore. Isn't that great?

Do you want to know why the American people don't know the truth
about the depths of any of the Clinton administration scandals?
It's because of Republicans like Archer who are afraid of getting
slimed themselves. They don't want to tangle with the
professional mud wrestlers of this administration.

No truth. No justice.

That's how you come up with a finding like this one: "The Joint
Committee found no credible evidence of intervention by Clinton
administration officials ... in the selection of or the failure
to select tax-exempt organizations for examination."

The audit of my group, after the Clinton administration had
forwarded a letter of complaint to the IRS, was deemed "routine."

Well, isn't that just peachy? Now using the IRS to go after
enemies -- whether they are political adversaries or media
critics -- is a matter of "routine." I'm so glad this report
could clarify that issue for us all. Aren't we better off as a
nation for that kind of backbone -- for that kind of insight and
judgment?

I'm telling you people, we no longer have two political parties
in this country, if indeed we ever did. We have one party -- the
incumbents. They protect each other either out of fear or out of
elitism. There is no opposition in Washington -- loyal or
otherwise. Don't kid yourself.

Many of you are still scratching your heads trying to figure out
how Clinton has gotten away with more crimes than any previous
president. Now you know. It's part of the incumbent protection
racket that operates inside the beltway. Gutlessness pervades.
Principle is an unknown commodity. The rule of law is a
theoretical concept they read about in old textbooks. The
Constitution? Oh yeah, that quaint old document collecting dust
in the Library of Congress.

In case you haven't noticed, I'm steamed. I'm mad as hell and I'm
not going to take it.

It's time to take our country back from these manipulators, these
wimps, these cowardly politicians who aren't worthy of occupying
hallowed halls and institutions designed by the founders of this
great nation.

I'm going to channel my energies, as I have been, into lawsuits
that will expose these lies, these injustices, these high crimes
once and for all -- no matter who is in office or who is out. I'm
going to continue to work with my friend and fearless colleague
Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch in pursuing justice -- no matter
how long it takes, no matter what the cost and no matter who
stands in the way. That is my solemn vow to you.

But I have one favor to ask of you.

Let these clowns in Congress -- all of them -- know that you are
on to them. Let them know you don't appreciate the way they have
excused Clinton's crimes once again. Let them know you know they
have ignored hard evidence and misrepresented the truth to the
American people every bit as much as Clinton himself has.

You can do that easier, faster and more efficiently than ever
before by using WorldNetDaily's Legislative Action Center.

But remember. From now on when you do sound off, you are putting
your own neck on the line. By standing up for what's 

[CTRL] Nazi Mind Control - Project Monarch 1/2

2000-03-18 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Project Monarch
by Ron Patton
Nazi Mind Control
http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html


Amidst the subtle cerebral circumvention of the gullible populace, through a
multitude of manipulated mediums, lies one of the most diabolical atrocities
perpetrated upon a segment of the human race; a form of systematic mind
control which has permeated every aspect of society for almost fifty
years.To objectively ascertain the following, one may need to re-examine
preconceived ideologies relating to the dualistic nature of mankind.
Resolving the philosophical question of whether we are inherently good or
inherently evil is tantamount in shaping our perception of reality;
specifically, the spiritual variable within the equation of life.
This exposition is substantiated by declassified U.S. government documents,
individuals formerly connected to the U.S. intelligence communities,
historical writings, researchers knowledgeable in mind control, publications
from mental health practitioners, and interviews taken from survivors
unwittingly subjected to a highly complex form of trauma-based mind control
known as MONARCH programming.


A word of caution for survivors of intensively systematic mind control
and/or some form of ritualized abuse: There are numerous "triggers" in this
article. It is therefore recommended not to read it unless appropriate
support systems are in place or if you have a thoroughly reintegrated
personality.

A Brief History of Control
The Mystery Religions of ancient Egypt, Greece, India and Babylon helped lay
the foundation for occultism, meaning "hidden knowledge." One of the
earliest writings giving reference to occultism is the Egyptian Book of the
Dead, a compilation of rituals explicitly describing methods of torture and
intimidation (to create trauma), the use of potions (drugs)
and the casting of spells (hypnotism), ultimately resulting in the total
enslavement of the initiate.[1] These have been the main ingredients for a
part of occultism known as Satanism, throughout the ages.
During the 13th Century, the Roman Catholic church increased and solidified
its dominion throughout Europe with the infamous Inquisition. Satanism
survived this period of persecution, deeply entrenching itself under the
veil of various esoteric groups.
In 1776, a Bavarian Jesuit by the name of  Adam Weishaupt was commissioned
by the House of Rothschild to centralize the power base of the Mystery
Religions into what is commonly known as the Illuminati,
meaning "Enlightened Ones."

This was an amalgamation of powerful occultic bloodlines, elite secret
societies and influential Masonic fraternities, with the desire to construct
the framework for a "New World Order." The
outward goal of this Utopia was to bring forth universal happiness to the
human race. However, their underlying intention was to gradually increase
control over the masses, thus becoming masters of the planet.

The Anglo Alliance
By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the
primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of
little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was
established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and
psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the
Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany.

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921
to study the "breaking point" of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German
psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932,
about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into
neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.
Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place
between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the
movement devoted to "improving" the human species through the
 control of hereditary factors in mating.

 The nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded,
partly through
the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which consisted of many high
ranking
officials in the Nazi party and British aristocracy.
Top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler, was in charge of a scientific
project called Lebersborn, which included selective breeding and adoption
of children, a peculiarly large number of twins among them.[2] The purpose
of the program was to create a super-race (Aryans) who would have total
allegiance to the cause of the Third Reich(New World Order).


Much of the preliminary experimentation concerning genetic engineering and
behavior
modification was conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, where he
coldly analyzed
the effects of trauma-bonding, eye-coloring and "twinning" upon his victims.
 Beside the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the
concentration camp,
some of the children were subjected to massive amounts of electroshock.
Sadly, many of them did not survive the 

[CTRL] White House Admits E-Mail Problems (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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White House Admits E-Mail Problems

By Larry Margasak
Associated Press Writer
Friday, March 17, 2000; 9:23 PM

Blaming "entirely unintentional" computer breakdowns, the White
House acknowledged Friday night that thousands of incoming
e-mails on campaign fund raising and other matters could not be
searched in response to House subpoenas.

Reconstructing the incoming e-mails from 1996-1999 would involve
a costly and time-consuming undertaking: up to $3 million and up
to two years, White House counsel Beth Nolan wrote Rep. Dan
Burton (R-Ind.), chairman of the House Government Reform
Committee.

The Republican-controlled committee sought information on
campaign fund-raising irregularities, the 1993 siege at the Waco,
Texas, Branch Davidian compound and the presidential grant of
clemency to 16 Puerto Rican separatists.

"We do not know if any responsive information is contained in the
unrecorded e-mails," Nolan insisted.

White House spokesman James Kennedy said the Clinton
administration was not making a commitment to the restoration
effort, but would discuss the matter with Burton.

While researching the computer failures, an additional problem
was discovered that could result in missing e-mails in Vice
President Al Gore's office, Nolan said. The scope of that problem
was unknown.

"These configuration errors were the sole result of human
mistakes and entirely unintentional," the letter said.

The mostly technical letter did not address statements by a
former White House contractor, who said in court papers that she
was warned not to reveal the e-mail problem that concealed the
messages from the Justice Department and Burton's committee.

The contractor, Betty Lambuth, said a subordinate told her some
of the e-mails deal with "Vice President Al Gore's involvement in
campaign fund-raising controversies" and "the sale of Clinton
Commerce Department trade mission seats in exchange for campaign
contributions." The subordinate said the e-mails also contained
information on the White House's improper gathering of FBI
background files of long-ago Republican appointees and the Monica
Lewinsky scandal, Lambuth stated in her declaration.

Nolan said there were two separate computer failures that made it
impossible for document searches to find the e-mails. One problem
lasted from August 1996 through November 1998 and affected
incoming mails to 526 White House users.

Incoming mail for 200 other accounts were affected by the second
error, lasting from November 1998 to May 1999.

© 2000 The Associated Press



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[CTRL] Nazi Mind Control - Project Monarch 2/2

2000-03-18 Thread Nicky Molloy

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http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html
Nazi Mind Control - Project Monarch 2/2


The next stage is to embed and compress detailed commands or messages
within the specified alter. This is achieved through the use of hi-tech
headsets, in conjunction with computer-driven generators which emit
inaudible sound waves or harmonics that affect the RNA covering of neuron
pathways to the subconscious and unconscious mind. "Virtual Reality"
optical devices are sometimes used simultaneously with the harmonic
generators projecting pulsating colored lights, subliminals and
split-screen visuals. High voltage electroshock is then used for memory
dissolution.

Programming is updated periodically and reinforced through visual,
auditory and written mediums. Some of the first programming themes
included the Wizard of Oz and Alice and Wonderland, both heavily
saturated with occultic symbolism. Many of the recent Disney movies
and cartoons are used in a two-fold manner: desensitizing the majority
of the population, using subliminals and neuro-linguistic programming,
and deliberately constructing specific triggers and keys for base
programming
of highly-impressionable MONARCH children.

A prime example of how subliminal programming works is by looking at the
recent Disney cinematic sensation Pochahontas, curiously billed as their
"33rd" (highest degree in Scottish Rite Freemasonry) animated movie. In
the movie, Grandmother Willow is a mystical 400 year old tree who counsels
 the motherless Pochahontas to listen to her heart and help her realize all
the
 answers lie within. Grandmother Willow is constantly talking in
"double-speak"
and using "reversals" (i.e. "Sometimes the right path is
not the easiest one"; the esoteric derivative being: the left path [the
path that leads to destruction] is the easiest one.
In Illuminati Structured MPD Systems, the willow tree represents the
occultic powers of Druidism.

The intrinsic imagery of the tree's branches,
leaves and root systems are very significant, as some of the dark
spiritual proper ties associated with the Willow Tree Programming are: (I)
The branches are used to whip victims in rituals for "cleansing" purposes,
(2) A willow tree can endure severe weather disturbances (i.e. storms) and
is known for it's pliability or flexibility. Victims/Survivors of the
programming describe the willow's branches wrapping around them, with no
 hope of escape, (3) The deep root system of the willow tree makes the
victim/survivor feel as if they are falling deeper and deeper into an
abyss while in a hypnotic trance.

Music plays an instrumental role in programming, through combinations of
variable tones, rhythms and words. Frightmeister Stephen King's numerous
novels and subsequent movies, are purported by credible sources to be used
for
such villainous purposes. One of his latest books, Insomnia, features a
picture of
King with the trigger phrase "WE NEVER SLEEP," (indicative of someone with
 MPD/ DID) below an all-seeing eye.

A partial list of other mediums used to reinforce base programming are:
Pinnochio, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin,
The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, E. T., Star Wars, Ghost Busters, Trancers
II, Batman, Bewitched, Fantasy Island, Reboot, Tiny Toons, Duck Tails, The
Dead Sea Scrolls and The Tall Book of Make Believe.
A few movies which depict or portray some aspect of MONARCH programming
are Hell raiser 3, Raising Cain, Labyrinth, Telefon, Johnny Mneumonic, Point
of No Return,
 The Lawnmower Man and Closet Land.

Programmers and Places
It's difficult to figure out who the original programmer of this satanic
project was, due to the substantial amount of disinformation and
cross-contamination
propagated by the "powers that be." The two that went by the color-coded
name of Dr. Green
 are a Jewish doctor named Dr. Gruenbaum, who supposedly collaborated with
the Nazis during
WWII, and Dr. Josef Mengele, whose trademark of cold blooded and calculating
brutality has
not only scarred the souls of survivors from Auschwitz, but also a countless
number of victims
throughout the world. Mengele's direct involvement at the infamous Auschwitz
concentration
camp was suspiciously downplayed during the Nuremberg Trials, and
consequently no
intensified effort by the U.S. and it's allies was directed toward his
capture.[13]

As a means to confuse serious investigators as to his whereabouts, U.S.
officials would report Mengele being a non-threatening, recluse in
Paraguay or Brazil, or that he was simply dead (the "Angel of Death"
miraculously must have come back to life at least five different times).

His unprecedented research, at the expense of thousands of lives,
undoubtedly was a significant bonus to U.S. interests, Besides using the
pseudonym of Dr. Green, survivors knew him as Vaterchen (daddy),
Schoner Josef (beautiful Joseph), David and Fairchild. A gracefully handsome
man
 of slight stature, 

[CTRL] U.S. Inconsistent When Secrets Are Loose (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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U.S. Inconsistent When Secrets Are Loose

By Walter Pincus and Vernon Loeb
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday , March 18, 2000 ; A01

Over the past 20 years, dozens of military and civilian employees
of the U.S. government have been punished for taking classified
documents home from work without authorization. But few of these
incidents have been made public, and the penalties have been
extremely inconsistent, according to current and former federal
officials.

Congress, the Justice Department and the FBI are grappling with
how to achieve greater fairness in such cases as they review the
treatment of John M. Deutch, a former CIA director who lost his
security clearances but was not prosecuted for keeping secrets on
ordinary home computers.

An aide to Attorney General Janet Reno said she was deeply
concerned about the appearance of inequity in the handling of
Deutch and Wen Ho Lee, a former scientist at Los Alamos National
Laboratory who faces trial and a possible life sentence for
transferring nuclear secrets to an unsecure computer and portable
tapes, seven of which are missing.

A review of roughly similar cases that have come to light through
interviews, administrative hearings and court records indicates
that military personnel generally receive harsher punishment than
civilians, even when soldiers have mishandled documents that are
of little consequence and civilians have compromised secrets that
are clearly important. Moreover, the government's response to
civilian cases has varied widely, from firing to a minor
reprimand to no action at all.

Justice Department officials say they generally do not prosecute
civilians at the CIA, Pentagon, State Department or other federal
agencies who mishandle secret documents, as long as there is no
evidence of criminal intent, the information is not divulged to a
third party, and the employees are disciplined administratively
by their agencies.

A former Justice Department official who handled such cases said
the practice of not prosecuting civilians for security violations
developed more than 20 years ago "so as not to embarrass [federal
agencies or the White House] in the courtroom."

"No matter how gross the violation, there would be no prosecution
if the agency took strong administrative action," such as removal
from the job and loss of security clearances, the former official
said.

Military personnel often are treated more severely. Jail
sentences or stiff administrative penalties, such as demotions
and discharges, are common for service members caught removing
classified material without authorization.

"If I had top-secret information on my home computer" while on
active duty, "I would be investigated by the criminal
investigative division, I would lose my clearance forever, and if
it were top-secret or above, as it was in the Deutch case, I
cannot imagine not being court-martialed--with jail time," said
retired Army Lt. Col. Ralph Peters, an author and military
analyst.

Some people with knowledge of past civilian and military cases,
many of which have never been made public, allege a pattern of
unfairness.

"There is a double standard. The more senior you are, the less
chance you pay a heavy penalty," said a former senior
intelligence official. He recalled, for example, that a top
Pentagon official during the Nixon administration was found to
have committed serious violations, and "everyone just walked away
from it."

"There's no accountability," agreed Melvin A. Goodman, a former
senior CIA analyst and professor of international security at the
National War College. "What Deutch did, that was pretty gross.
Important people seem to get away with more than lesser people."

The Deutch affair particularly rankles Norman A. Germino, who
lost his job at the National Security Agency seven years ago for
taking home documents that he contends were completely innocuous,
such as a map and a foreign vocabulary list.

"The security people at NSA don't distinguish between serious
breaches of intelligence--something a spy would do--and
inadvertent mistakes," said Germino, who now works as a case
manager in Maryland's Division of Corrections. "Deutch, being the
. . . top man in the intelligence community, probably had some
serious stuff. My stuff, it was junk. And I never put it on a
computer where people could access it."

For comparison purposes, a report on the Deutch affair by the
CIA's inspector general also outlines a remarkably similar
security breach that was punished more swiftly and firmly.

In November 1996, Fritz Ermarth, a CIA senior intelligence
analyst, was found to have written a document with the highest
level of classification on his home computer, which was used to
visit Internet sites. As in Deutch's case, members of Ermarth's
family had access to the computer.

Unlike in the Deutch case, the CIA general counsel's office
promptly filed a "crimes report" with the Justice 

Re: [CTRL] Alt-Med For All You Alt-Med-ers.

2000-03-18 Thread Tenorlove

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--- Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you use a weedkiller (shame on you) it won't grow on your lawn.

Another thing that won't grow on your lawn if you use weed killer is a
wonderful, delicious salad green with a bit of a peppery flavor. You
know it best as the common weed, the dandelion. Pick them when they
first come up, before they bloom -- the leaves are a tender delicacy,
similar to watercress in flavor. And get a good field guide, maybe one
of Matt Anger's survival books; there are all kinds of goodies in your
yard and neigborhood, free for the picking.

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[CTRL] Opec oil price gouge

2000-03-18 Thread William Bacon

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All,
I think that this would be an excellent time to remind our elected
representatives and senators in Washington,DC to seriously consider
unlocking offshore exploration and development of our oil resources for
the entire United States, the entire north slope of Alaska, Oil shale
reserves (estimated at over 3 TRILLON Barrels in Colorado, Utah and
Wyoming alone). By the way, isn't an interesting "coincidence" that the
eco-fascists come along at just the right time to almost completely choke
off energy production of all kinds just when opec started to gouge the
United States inthe early 1970s? Any comment? Is it possible the
environmental movement is a tool of OPEC?

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Re: [CTRL] Prozac Violence - New Research

2000-03-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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What is not reported in this article is whether the individuals who became
violent after taking Prozac were receiving psychiatric counseling as well as
the medication. Too many M.D.s, encouraged by HMO policies, prescribe drugs
exclusively, when ongoing supervision and *human* support are also needed.
The problem is not so much with Prozac, which can be a genuine Godsend (ask
my wife, who was brought out of a major depression by Prozac), as it is with
the Western healthcare establishment, which sees drugs as panaceas and
ignores the need to address what, for want of a better term, I can only call
the spiritual element in psychiatric disorders.

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Re: [CTRL] Prozac Violence - New Research

2000-03-18 Thread Tenorlove

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--- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is not so much with Prozac, which can be a genuine
Godsend (ask my wife, who was brought out of a major depression by
Prozac), as it is with the Western healthcare establishment, which sees
drugs as panaceas and ignores the need to address what, for want of a
better term, I can only call the spiritual element in psychiatric
disorders.

And not just the healthcare establishment -- our whole society seems to
want a pill for everything. I was told, by a former friend who is a
public school teacher -- that I should put my now 6 year old on Ritalin
-- when he was TWENTY MONTHS OLD!!! Even my pediatrician said that was
ridiculous. My son is very physical, but he does not in any way have
ADD or ADHD. I'm watching him play solitaire on his computer right now
-- he is totally focused and sitting still, except for the hand that is
moving the mouse. A kid with ADHD couldn't do that. I think a lot of
psychological/spiritual/behavioral problems would not exist to the
degree that they do today if people placed more emphasis on each other
and not on the constant acquisition of stuff.

Tenorlove,
writing this with her other son scrunched in the chair beside her

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Re: [CTRL] popery dopery dock

2000-03-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Don Huffman wrote:

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 Dear Writer:
 I think by rat line you should mean that the Vatican feed and helped all
 refugees that it could after the War.  They could not determine by look-
 ing at a person what he had done.  Can anyone?

 It would be well to hear what Albert Einstein, Golda Muier, and the
 head Rabbi of Jerusalem said about Pius X11. They praised him highly.
 And the list of those Jews and Gentiles who were saved goes on.  Let
 them speak here!

 There is a new kind of conspiracy going on against the Catholic Church.
 If we would approve abortion, artifical birth control, and the practice
 of homosexuality; these tormentors who, of course, and guided by the
 Father of all lies, would leave us alone.

 About him having Nazi friends let someone else out there ferret out the
 truth about that.

 Very 
sincerly yours,

 Don Huffman


Well Don I can understand your denial. It is a strength of the
religious
to be able to deny reality. But let me ask you this question.
What if you are wrong, and Pius XII was a fascist and a Nazi supporter
who helped war criminals escape and made big money for the church
extracted
from the mouths of the dead victims of the people he helped get away?

What if this was true? What would you do?

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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The Federal Reserve is not a government agency.

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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Nakano:

Thanks for setting me straight about the fact that the Federal Reserve
Bank isn't in the blue section of the phone book because it is not a
government agency. But why does the federal reserve have government ap-
pointed people who regulate the Federal Reserve.  Aren't these appoint-
ees on the board for our own good?

First I had to abandon Santa Claus, then the Easter bunny and now in the
name of truth and justice I must give up what I thought was always truth
itself.

That's hard.  But I still I have my angels and saints and you're not tak
ing them from me.


Gratefully yours,


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[CTRL] OT: Text of Bush e-mail to Gore (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[The last line is great.  --MS]


Text of Bush e-mail to Gore


Updated 6:05 PM ET March 15, 2000 AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - Following is
the full text of an e-mail of Texas Gov.  George W.  Bush sent to Vice
President Al Gore on Wednesday:

"Dear Mr.  Vice President:

Thank you for your e-mail and your congratulations.  I congratulate you
as well, and look forward to a campaign that raises the important issues
of our time -- reforming education, rebuilding our military and
returning high standards to government.

Both you and I have made a number of campaign finance reform proposals.
But before we debate these changes, it is important for Americans to
know whether the current campaign finance laws have been obeyed and
enforced.  So I challenge you to clear the air on some serious charges.
I hope you will encourage the White House and the Department of Justice
to release all records and photographs relating to the investigation of
fundraising abuses by you and your administration.

In your e-mail, you spoke of restoring 'trust in our electoral process.'
And that is the heart of the matter.  New campaign finance laws are
needed.  What is even more important is the duty of public officials to
obey the existing laws, and I'm afraid your own record does not inspire
confidence.

In your note, you did not mention the matter of compulsory union
dues being used to support political candidates - a violation of
worker rights.  And I see that you did not mention this today,
when you spoke to the AFL-CIO.  This would have been an ideal
setting to display your sudden interest in campaign finance
reform, and to demonstrate your own seriousness on the issue.
Your silence was not encouraging, because any campaign finance
reform must be broad and fair.

Thank you for your email.  This Internet of yours is a wonderful
invention."



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Re: [CTRL] Nazi Mind Control - Project Monarch 1/2

2000-03-18 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Writer:

When Adam Weishaupt acted for the Illuminati he was an EX-Jesuit wasn't
he?  He certainly was not acting for the Catholic Church or any Christ-
Inquisition was, and it seems to me that you are not on the money about
it.

However, you certainly have a good point that there are forces out there
who want to control my any means possible.


Thank you,


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[CTRL] 'No Credible Evidence' in FBI Case (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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'No Credible Evidence' in FBI Case

By Pete Yost
Associated Press Writer
Thursday, March 16, 2000; 3:41 p.m. EST

WASHINGTON –– Independent Counsel Robert Ray said today he found
no credible evidence that first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton or
senior White House officials were involved in seeking the FBI
background files of Republicans.

Ray also said there is no credible evidence that former White
House counsel Bernard Nussbaum lied to Congress about the hiring
of the White House security chief whose office gathered the
files.

Nussbaum was quoted in an FBI interview summary as saying that
Mrs. Clinton had recommended hiring Craig Livingstone. Nussbaum
told the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee on June
26, 1996 that the FBI's summary was incorrect.

"There was no substantial or credible evidence that Mrs. Clinton
was involved in the hiring of Mr. Livingstone," Ray said in a
two-page statement. "Accordingly, this office declined
prosecution and has closed the Nussbaum matter" as well as its
investigation into whether the files were misused.

Ray's office "determined that there was no substantial and
credible evidence that any senior White House official, or first
lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, was involved in seeking confidential
Federal Bureau of Investigation background reports of former
White House staff from the prior administrations of President
Bush and President Reagan."

Ray is sending a report on the FBI files investigation to three
federal appeals judges, who will give the people named in it 90
days to respond before releasing the report along with any
responses.

The report is to be followed by two others – one on Mrs.
Clinton's role in the purge of the White House travel office and
another on the Clintons' Whitewater land dealings in Arkansas.
That third report also will deal with Mrs. Clinton's legal work
for her Whitewater partners' failing savings and loan.

The White House has said the gathering of files was a
bureaucratic blunder based on outdated Secret Service lists of
White House entry passholders.

Ray has angered some Republicans whose files were gathered by the
Clinton White House. Those Republicans wanted him to bring
prosecutions for violations of their privacy. But Ray pointed out
that his office does not have jurisdiction to investigate alleged
violations of the Privacy Act of 1974.

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[CTRL] IRS Will Evict 80 Year Old Couple

2000-03-18 Thread Gavin Phillips

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 WEDNESDAY MARCH 15 2000

 THE POWER TO DESTROY

 IRS to evict elderly couple Foreclosure on 80-year-olds' home for
 non-payment of taxes

 By Jon E.  Dougherty © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

 The Internal Revenue Service has threatened to evict an infirm elderly
 couple from their home of many years for non-payment of back taxes that the
 couple says they don't owe.

 On Feb.  25, U.S.  District Court Judge James B.  Zagel ruled in favor of
 the government, despite his legal authority to rule out the IRS' conviction
 request because of the couple's special medical conditions. Mr. and
 Mrs.  Paul Stout of Chicago, 81 and 82 years old respectively, were not
 represented by legal counsel because they couldn't afford it, they told
 WorldNetDaily.

 The Stout's "foreclosure suit" stemmed from an IRS lien "covering taxes
 from 1973 through 1980," Mr.  Stout told WND, and was "affirmed by the tax
 court and supposedly assessed in 1982." The taxes allegedly owed, Stout
 said, including penalties and interest, amount to around $500,000.

 "This is much more than my entire cash flow for the years in question. The
 value of our home is also much less than this," he said.

 However, what most frustrates the couple, Mr.  Stout said, was the
 hypocrisy and confusion built into the IRS codes.

 On the one hand, IRS code forbids the agency from assigning a levy to "a
 principal residence." But on the other hand, said Stout, "the IRS district
 director and others are given the power to levy, under IRS Code
 6334(e)(1) anyway."

 Also, Judge Zagel "admitted that my wife was an 'innocent spouse' under IRS
 codes, and that he had the power to stop the eviction to protect her, but
 he did not," Stout said.

 Finally, according to the Illinois resident, the IRS repeatedly refused to
 produce a required "assessment" of lien during his motions for discovery
 during his court case.

 "The Court refused to compel them to produce," Stout said, adding that
 Zagel also "refused to consider my motions to produce a lawful assessment
 and to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction.

 "The Court simply wouldn't let me file," Stout told WorldNetDaily. Worse,
 he added, "in the absence of a lawful assessment, the Court does not have
 subject matter jurisdiction or a claim upon which relief can be granted, or
 to make any rulings."

 Stout said he believes both the court and the IRS have taken a hard-line
 approach with him because he said he has been "labeled an illegal tax
 protestor, a designation made unlawful by Congress" a few years ago.

 "I understand that the government will move the court for an order evicting
 us on a 'day certain,' but I don't know the timing," he said.

 Stout said the IRS had made him a compromise offer of about ten percent of
 what he allegedly owes.

 "The IRS might accept an offer in compromise of about $50,000, which I
 don't have," he said.  "An attorney offered to do it for fees of about
 $20-25,000, which I don't have either."

 The whole case, said the Illinois man, amounted to a series of "catch-22s."

 IRS officials did not return phone calls seeking comment on the case.

 The ordeal has the Stouts particularly worried because neither of them are
 in good health.

 Citing a list of health problems Mrs. Stout has, ranging from aortic
 aneurysms to celiac sprue -- "a condition where the body cannot tolerate
 any gluten from wheat, oats, barley or other sources," Mr.  Stout said --
 the couple had hoped the IRS Taxpayer Advocate would end the case because
 of their medical hardships.

 "According to IRS code," Stout said, "the advocate or ombudsman could stop
 this eviction in cases of hardship [IRC 7811(a),(b)], but the district
 director and many others can overrule his order anyway [IRC 7811(e)]."

  

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2000-03-18 Thread Michael Fultz

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 Don Huffman wrote:
 
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  Dear Writer:
  I think by rat line you should mean that the Vatican feed and
 helped all

  refugees that it could after the War.  They could not
 determine by look-

  ing at a person what he had done.  Can anyone?
 
  It would be well to hear what Albert Einstein, Golda Muier,
 and the

  head Rabbi of Jerusalem said about Pius X11. They praised him
 highly.

  And the list of those Jews and Gentiles who were saved goes
 on.  Let

  them speak here!
 
  There is a new kind of conspiracy going on against the
 Catholic Church.

  If we would approve abortion, artifical birth control, and the
 practice

  of homosexuality; these tormentors who, of course, and guided
 by the

  Father of all lies, would leave us alone.
 
  About him having Nazi friends let someone else out there
 ferret out the

  truth about that.
 
 
  Very sincerly yours,

 
 
  Don Huffman



 Well Don I can understand your denial. It is a strength of the
 religious
 to be able to deny reality. But let me ask you this question.
 What if you are wrong, and Pius XII was a fascist and a Nazi
 supporter

 who helped war criminals escape and made big money for the
 church

 extracted
 from the mouths of the dead victims of the people he helped get
 away?


 What if this was true? What would you do?

 Joshua2

### Well, what would you be able to do? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
If Pius would have been pro-Facist it would have made sense.. At the time,
there were two growing movements in Europe, one was
Fascism and the other was Communism.. They are pretty much the
same, they both utilize socialist ideals.. however Fascism
accomodates Capitalism and Religion.. Communism seeks to
eliminate both of these.. As far as war crimes, and war
criminals, a cynic once suggested that the reason the Nazis
and others were called war criminals is because they lost
war. We would have a different set of "war criminals" had
they won.. So, was Pius a Communist or Fascist or Sadist or
Anarchist? Who cares? This stuff happened over fifty years ago!
most of the "war criminals" are almost eighty years old or more.
Are they going to be brought to "justice", whatever that means?
Bury the dead and get on with life
Michael
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[CTRL] The US Department of Defense's New Antiterrorism Squads- The faceof totalitarianism?

2000-03-18 Thread lloyd

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..

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From: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The US Department of Defense's New Antiterrorism Squads- The faceof 
totalitarianism?
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 3:36 AM

The Department of Defense under the auspices of the recently passed
antiterrorism bill have added new DOMESTIC antiterrorism teams.  The
new units shoulder patch was recently delivered to a friend of mine.
You may view the new shoulder patch at:

http://www.mccullagh.org/image/otherphotos/terror.html

Thanks to Declan Mccullagh for placing the digital photo of the patch
on his web site.  The patch came to a Freematt's Alerts subscriber,
who is a retired police supervisor.  The patch came in an unmarked,
brown envelope.  According to an unnamed military source the patch is
of the latest issue (about 8 weeks old).  On a related front,  Ohio
currently is in the process of getting 5 - 50 man anti-terrorist
teams to be attached to the Ohio National Guard and stationed in the
following areas:  Cleveland, Toledo, Cincinnati, Central Ohio
(Columbus) and the Akron/Canton/Youngstown area.  These units are
funded via a separate channel and are not funded by the state
government, but rather from a federal antiterrorism fund.  It is not
clear who they take their orders from.  Other National Guardsmen are
not being informed of these unit activations, the reason given is the
usual "need to Know" excuse.

These units have training from and are rotating out of Rangers, Delta
(Combat Applications Group), SOCOM, and other 'snake-eater' groups.
This has been in the works for the last couple of years.  Originally
each state was supposed to get one 50 man unit.  Ohio requested, and
apparently obtained, a total of 5 (250 men total). Other states have
at least one 50 man unit with some states getting additional teams as
needed or requested.  These state groups are not to be confused with
the unit that is featured with the above shoulder patch.  That
apparently is a national or federal antiterrorism team.

It should be obvious that everyone should be concerned over the
constitutional questions as to the legality of such military teams
acting domestically.  Of equal concern to me is that due to the cult
of secrecy of our military forces, it is very unclear just what role
and power these new units have or will have.  I'm especially
concerned that in an age of decreased domestic terrorism (The US is
currently at a 20 year low) the rapid and ill defined expansion of
police state groups such as this will cause more domestic incidents
such as the bungled raid at Waco.  When the only tool you have is a
hammer every problem looks like a nail.

Longtime Freematt's Alerts subscriber Jim Warren had these comments:

Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:27:24 -0800
To: Dave Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Gaylor)
From: Jim Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: JPEG of DOD Anti-Terrorist patch -- WHO'S IN CHARGE?!

Subject: JPEG of DOD Anti-Terrorist patch

This [shoulder patch] came from a police supervisor on my list.  Interesting.


Although the shoulder-patch came from a police supervisor, what is MOST
interesting about it is that its logo indicates that it is a Dept of
DEFENSE patch ... *not* a patch of *civilian* law enforcement -- Dept of
Justice, FBI, ATF, etc.

Thus, the *real* questions are crucial *Constitutional* questions:

1.  Does this patch imply that *domestic* counter-terrorism efforts in the
*civilian* sector are now under the direction and control of a *military*
task force in the Dept of Defense, rather than under control of *civilian*
domestic law enforcement agencies?

2.  Are there parallel Anti-Terrorism Task Forces in the *civilian* Dept of
Justice (FBI) and perhaps Treasury Dept (ATF)?  If so, are they operating
separately from the Defense Dept task force -- with likely wasteful
redundancy, turf-wars and information-hoarding?  Of if they are [hopefully]
cooperating, then who the hell is really in charge?!  Is the military
controlling or making decisions for *civilian* law enforcement?

3.  Are the apparently-operational (complete with shoulder-patches)
*military* anti-terrorism officers and staff active in *civilian* domestic
investigative and/or enforcement activities?  If so, are they on their own,
or are they under control if *civilian* law enforcement?  And -- if not, is
this the first step in a military take-over over civilian law enforcement,
and/or investigation of American civilians (or is it just one more step in
the often-apparent, covert creeping militarism of formerly-civilian law
enforcement?!)?

Would any of our elected so-called representatives -- presidential or
congressional -- *dare* to ask these questions?  Publicly?!  And *demand*

[CTRL] OEN 3/18/00

2000-03-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe/A
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Money Laundering


Mexican Bank Bailout: Payoff to Politicians?


How it works: take out a loan; let taxpayers pay it off.

MEXICO CITY (AP) -- A Mexican congresswoman says public funds helped bail out
relatives of the two top candidates for president, putting an old controversy
over a nearly $100 billion bank rescue into the center of the campaign.


In broadcast interviews Thursday and Friday, Dolores Padierna of the leftist
Democratic Revolution Party said there was evidence that a program to rescue
Mexico's banking system covered part of the debts of the brothers of
Francisco Labastida of the governing Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI)
and Vicente Fox of the center-right National Action Party.

Padierna also released a long list of other wealthy business figures who she
said have had massive debts covered with taxpayers' money.

Most of the debtors helped by the program were victims of the 1995 crisis
that saw variable-rate interest loans soar to above 100 percent as the peso
rapidly sank, she told the Televisa network on Friday.

But ''a few we have selected are linked to power, are part of great economic
groups who have been enriched by taking credits and then not paying,'' she
said.

The bank bailout has been a political volcano, erupting periodically in a
congress that in 1997 had opposition parties outnumber PRI deputies for the
first time.

The controversy has been fed by government refusals to name most of the
companies with loans in the program, as well as by a series of scandals
revealing that some government-rescued banks had made massive loans to
companies owned by their top officers or their friends.

Opinion polls before the July 2000 presidential election show Labastida and
Fox far ahead of Cuauhtemoc Cardenas, who is from Padierna's Democratic
Revolution Party.

Labastida earlier said Fox's family had been aided by the bailout.

Padierna charged on Friday that one of Labastida's brothers, as well, had
been helped by the program and said several members of his campaign team were
listed as still having outstanding debts.

In a news conference in eastern Mexico, Labastida did not flatly deny the
allegation, but said, ''At this time, that and any other topic will be used
as a means to justify political attacks, many of them sadly not well
justified.''

Padierna said her staff had assembled a list of names and debts by
cross-referencing several official reports and an outside audit.

National Action's congressional leader, Carlos Medina Plascencia, accused
Padierna of ''very grave irresponsibility'' and said she had gotten some of
her data -- including allegations involving him -- wrong. Padierna accused
Medina of being part owner of a family company that benefitted from the
program.

The government has argued that providing names would violate banking secrecy
laws. But Medina said he would favor releasing names on a now-confidential
list of irregular or illegal loans.

National Action spokesman Abel Vicencio admitted that some members of the
party had seen their debts restructured under the program, but said they were
among many thousands of Mexicans who also had been helped after being caught
in the 1995 crisis.
The Associated Press, March 18, 2000



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[CTRL] Kosovo drug mafia supply heroin to Europe

2000-03-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/international/story/0,,146154,00.html
Click Here: A
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  Kosovo drug mafia supply heroin to Europe

Kosovo: special report

Maggie O'Kane in Belgrade
Monday March 13, 2000

International agencies fighting the drug trade are warning that Kosovo has
become a "smugglers' paradise" supplying up to 40% of the heroin sold in
Europe and North America.
Nato-led forces, struggling to keep peace in the province a year after the
war, have no mandate to fight drug traffickers; and - with the expulsion from
Kosovo of the Serb police, including the "4th unit" narcotics squad - the
smugglers are running the "Balkan route" with complete freedom.
The peacekeepers of K-For "may as well be coming from another planet when it
comes to tackling these guys," said Marko Nicovic, a lawyer and
vice-president of the international narcotics enforcement officers
association, based in New York.

"It's the hardest narcotics ring to crack because it is all run by families
and they even have their own language. Kosovo is set to become the cancer
centre of Europe, as western Europe will soon discover," he said.

He estimates that the province's traffickers are now handling between 4.5 and
five tonnes of heroin a month and growing fast, compared to the two tonnes
they were shifting before the Kosovo war of March-June last year, when Nato
bombing forced Serbia's regime to pull out of the largely ethnic-Albanian
province.

"It's coming through easier and cheaper - and there's much more of it. The
price is going down and if this goes on we are predicting a heroin boom in
western Europe as there was in the early 80s."

A heroin trafficker in Belgrade confirmed to the Guardian that since the war
the Kosovo heroin dealers, most of them from four main families, are
concentrating on the western Europe and US markets.

A kilo of heroin that is worth £10,000 in Kosovo or £20,000 in Belgrade can
make £40,000 on the British, Italian or Swiss markets, said that 24-year-old
heroin middleman. He expected the Kosovo route to grow: "There's nobody to
stop them."

Only half the promised 5,000 policemen have arrived to join the peace
operation in the province, which is now the main route for heroin flowing
through some of the world's most troubled countries, Afghanisatan, northern
Iran, the southern states of the Russian Federation, Azerbaijan, Turkey,
Kosovo and into western Europe and the US

"It is the Colombia of Europe," said Mr Nikovic, who was the chief of the
Yugoslav narcotics force until 1996. "When Serb police were burning houses in
Kosovo they were finding it [heroin] stuffed in the roof. As far as I know
there has not been a single report in the last year of K-For seizing heroin.
They are soldiers not criminal investigators."

Echoing this, an official at Nato in Brussels said: "Generals do not want to
turn their troops into cops ... They don't want their troops to get shot
pursuing black marketeers."

There is no evidence that the ethnic Albanians' Kosovo Liberation Army is
involved directly in drug smuggling, but according to the British-based
International Police Review published by Jane's they may be dependent on the
drug families who, the Review says, partly funded the KLA's operations in
Kosovo last year.

When drug squad chiefs from northern and eastern Europe met in Sweden 10 days
ago, the Balkan route was the main issue, according to the head of the Czech
narcotics agency, Jiri Komorous: "There are four paths of drug trafficking
through the Balkans to western Europe and we have to improve our attempts to
control the Kosovo Albanians."

The Kosovo mafia has been smuggling heroin since the mid-80s - but since the
Kosovo war they have come into their own, according to Mr Nicovic: "You have
an entire country without a police force that knows what is going on."

The Kosovo Albanian mafia is almost untouchable. "Everything is worked out on
the basis of the family or clan structure, the Fic (brotherhood), so it is
impossible to plant informers," said Mr Nicovic.

"Their diaspora have been in Turkey and Germany since Tito's communist purges
so the whole route is set up. Now they have found the one country between
Asia and Europe which is not a member of Interpol."

To Britain, he said, there are two routes: "By truck through Germany, Belgium
and France and then via Dover - and also through Budapest, Poland, the
Netherlands, then to Britain."
Responsibility for organising police work in Kosovo "is a grey area", said
the Nato official, but "if organised crime goes on thriving it will have
intenational ramifications".






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[CTRL] Bokler's Guide to CRACKER Software

2000-03-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.bokler.com/crak_body.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.bokler.com/crak_body.html"Bokler's Guide to
"CRACKER" Software/A
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How well do the systems and software you use protect your data? The level of
security provided by much of the software in common use today is very weak.
This page illustrates the risks of entrusting your data to software or
systems which are cryptographically weak or logically flawed.  The "cracker
software" listed on this page exploits these weaknesses.
The intent is not to low-rate anyone's products; the objectives are to:

a.  provide a few datapoints on cryptographic strength,
b.  help assess risk exposure in your environment, and
c.  help developers avoid common mistakes in new implementations.


A Norwegian group calling themselves the Masters of Reverse Engineering
(MoRE) has developed a utility that defeats the CSS encryption algorithm used
to protect DVDs from being copied. The small decryption utility called DeCSS
is available as a Windows binary, and in source code form. See the "official"
mirror listing for download sites, and Frank Stevenson's cryptanalysis for
code and details.

A company called Elcomsoft is offering licenses for password cracker utilities
 that handle MS Office '95 and '97 (Word, Excel and Access), WinZip (.zip
files). Their website also has a nifty collection of dictionaries and dictiona
ry generators.

The FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center publishes a list of
"Bugs, holes and Patches" every two weeks... good stuff (but it needs better
organization!). Check the archive for previous issues.

Check out our bookstore for some titles of interest. The current "hot title" i
s "Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets and Solutions".

A couple of tutorials on Windows vulnerabilities that you should be aware
of... Guide to (mostly) Harmless Hacking, and one on NetBIOS attacks over TCP
from Cult of the Dead Cow.

Dmitry Sumin's password cracker software has gone commercial. The new site
address is http://www.lostpassword.com. He now offers versions to crack
Office '95, '97 and 2000 password-protected files including Word, Excel and
Access. See Industry listings for further details.


Want to do something useful with your time? -  try cracking this 157 year-old
cryptograph.
Fernando Papa Budzyn has released an updated version of his Fast ZIP Cracker.
Version 1.05 was released o/a 16 February, 1998, and is available from our
ftp server, or from one of these sites: ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/cryptana
lysis/fzc105.zip, or ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/fzc105.zip.

Bruce Schneier has released an application to brute-force S/MIME-protected
messages which use 40 bit RC2. S/MIME is employed in Netscape's
Communicator™, and Microsoft's Outlook Express™.

One of the operatives at the L0pht has found another flaw in Internet
Explorer which allows arbitrary code on the IE4 host to be executed.

A serious bug in the Excite for Web Servers search engine has been discovered
which would allow anonymous users to execute shell commands on the server.

rootshell.com's site lists over 500 source code modules  "recipes" for
hackers, including the recently advertised Land, Teardrop, and Bonk attacks.
See the Operating Systems section.

The Chaos Computer Club in Germany has devoted a page to detailing security
flaws they've discovered with ActiveX® and Internet Explorer®. See the
Operating Systems section.

Ed Kubaitis' site: WWW Browser Security  Privacy Flaws. See the Operating
Systems section.

Pavel Semjanov's Homepage - site of the Russian Cracker Page. Thanks to Pavel
for notifying us about his site. See the Other Sites section.

The L0pht houses numerous resources. Their most recent release of L0phtcrack
successfully defeated Microsoft's patch for an earlier Windows NT® password
crack. See the Oper. Systems section.

The Nomad Mobile Research Centre has FAQs and files for cracking Windows NT,
Novell, and both web browsers and servers. See the Operating Systems section.





The crackers in this section were designed to break the password
protection/encryption built into popular word processor applications. The
ones listed here worked without a hitch, returning the correct password value
effortlessly in every case. If you are depending on the cryptography in these
applications to protect your sensitive data you are definitely risk-prone.

Word '97® Cracker:

This is a freeware utility developed by Dmitry Sumin designed to discover
"lost" Word '97 passwords. The documentation is sparse (very sparse), and by
the author's own admission is very slow. It uses a "dictionary attack" - i.e.
it guesses different passwords until it finds the one that successfully
decrypts the protected file. If the person who password-protected the file
originally used a truly random password, then it may take a very long time to
recover it. You can download the binary word97cr.zip - no source 

[CTRL] AL GORE AND THE TEA POT DOME HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Subject: AL GORE AND THE TEA POT DOME HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

AL GORE AND THE TEA POT DOME HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

By Chuck Morse

As if Al Gore wasn’t already sinking in the miasma of eight years
of the most corrupt administration in US history, a new potential
scandal has reared its head.  In the cacophony of Clinton/Gore
scandals, this one seems to have slipped under the radar screen.
Reminiscent of the Teapot Dome affair, the scandal that tarnished
the reputation of President Warren Harding, Gore may become
embroiled in an analogous conflict of interest.  The affair in
question, like Teapot Dome, involves oil, land transfers, and
possible gratuities both political and pecuniary.

In 1923, The Teapot Dome affair involved the transfer of the
federally administered Teapot Dome oil reserves, set aside for
national security, from naval jurisdiction to the Dept.  of the
Interior.  Once Harding’s Secretary of the Interior, Albert B.
Fall obtained jurisdiction, he proceeded to lease oil rights to
Sinclair Oil in exchange for a bribe.  Secretary of the Navy,
Edwin N.  Denby, accepted responsibility for the original
transfer and resigned.  Fall was eventually convicted for bribery
and served time in prison.  Harding died in office before the
scandal broke and was not directly involved.

In 1995, on Vice President Gore’s recommendation, the Clinton
Administration sold the federally administered Elk Hills oil
reserves to Occidental Petroleum for $3.65 billion.  This
constituted, according to Charles Lewis of the Center for Public
Integrity, “the largest privatization of federal property in US
history”.  At issue is not the sale of federal land to the
private sector, where it belongs in most cases, but the
appropriateness of selling oil that is kept in reserve for
military purposes.  Occidental had contributed more than $470,000
to the Democratic Party.  This included a check for $100,000
written two days after Occidental chairman, Ray Irani, was a
guest in the Lincoln Bedroom.  Gore received $35,550 directly.
It is worth noting that the left has traditionally accused the
Republican Party of being under the influence of big corporations
and big oil. Obviously not so in this case.

Gore’s relationship with the oil behemoth goes back to his
father, Al Gore Sr., who, after a long and mutually beneficial
relationship with Occidental, was given a $500,000 per year there
after leaving the US Senate. Occidental Chairman, Armand Hammer,
was quoted as saying that he had Al Sr.”In my back pocket”.
Occidental purchased mineral rich land near the Gore farm in
Tennessee, sold the land to Al Sr, and paid the Gore family
$20,000 per year for the mineral rights.  The Vice President
still collects on this contract although another company now owns
it.  Gore owns shares in Occidental worth up to $500,000.

Author Edward Jay Epstein, in Dossier-The Secret History of
Armand Hammer, documents the longstanding relationship between
the Occidental Chairman and every Soviet leader from Lenin to
Gorbachev.  Hammer’s father, Julius Hammer, was one of the
founders of the American Communist Party.  The book further
reveals the fact that Hammer lived in the Soviet Union in the
1920’s, financed Soviet espionage in the US, and sold confiscated
art for the Soviets at his New York gallery.  Make no mistake,
Hammer was a Soviet spy and a traitor, no different than Alger
Hiss.  Hammer’s handling of confiscated Soviet art was no
different than the way Nazi Field Marshall Goring handled French
art confiscated from the Lourve in occupied Paris.  Gore’s family
became rich from their association with Armand Hammer and
Occidental Petroleum.

Joseph Farah, editor of World Net Daily, in his article “Gore
sensitive about Hammer connection”, presents evidence that Gore’s
middle name is Armand, named after Hammer.  Gore has been evasive
when asked about his middle name.  Perhaps this question should
be asked of the presidential candidate until a straight answer
emerges.  Farah points out that Gore is co-chairman of a
Russian-US commission that helps in forming business contacts and
public/private initiatives between the two countries.  The
Russian side is often cut in the same mold as Armand Hammer.
Gore continues in his father’s footsteps.

This scandal is replete with so many issues that speak to the
character and career of Al Gore.  Gore grew up in an atmosphere
of noblesse oblige.  In his case, this background seems to leave
him without scruples and a willingness to eschew stated ideals in
the quest for power.  Gore cares nothing for the environment when
his benefactors at Occidental need to close an environmentally
damaging oil deal.  Gore is accustomed to such deals and expects
to benefit from such favors in the form of increased power.  Now
he’s going for the brass ring even as his 

Re: [CTRL] popery dopery dock

2000-03-18 Thread nessie

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This stuff happened over fifty years ago!

most of the "war criminals" are almost eighty years old or more.

Are they going to be brought to "justice", whatever that means?


Bury the dead and get on with life



While the "old fighters' are mostly dead, their cause, their organizations
and their influence on  the world is most decidedly not.

See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/company.html

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[CTRL] Deutsche / Dresdener

2000-03-18 Thread Alamaine

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"" German top management is practically a world of its own. Nearly all of the
board members of the German banks also belong to the supervisory boards of the
major industrial corporations where, together with politicians and trade union
representatives, they perform the ritual of "tough negotiations" that end up in
securing social harmony and also bailing out companies that are in trouble. ""

www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : World Economy
The Deutsche Bank/Dresdner Bank merger: a struggle for worldwide market
domination
By Patrick Richter
18 March 2000

Back to screen version

The merger announced on March 7 of Deutsche Bank AG and Dresdner Bank AG,
Germany's largest and third-largest banks, respectively, to form the biggest
financial institution in the world is the German response to increasingly tough
competition for domination of the world financial markets. It signals the
beginning of profound changes in Germany's economy.

Deutsche Bank CEO Rolf-Ernst Breuer explained the decision in favor of the
merger by saying, "We didn't want to be driven [by the competition]", thus
expressing a widely held desire in business circles to at long last take the
initiative against increasingly overpowering foreign competition and rid
themselves of the dead weight of the "Germany-Incorporated" system of market
regulation and social concessions.

The merger will create the most powerful banking group in the world with a
balance-sheet total of nearly 2.5 trillion marks, and a stock market value of
around 150 billion marks. This puts it far ahead of the second largest banking
group, US-based Citigroup, with a balance-sheet total amounting to 1.2 trillion
marks, and also in front of the planned Japanese bank mergers of Dai-Ichi/Fuji/
Industrial Bank (2.4 trillion marks balance-sheet total) and Sumitomo/Sakura
Bank (1.7 trillion marks balance-sheet total).

The new banking group intends to spin off its retail banking business, which is
running at low profit at Deutsche Bank and especially at Dresdner Bank, and the
costly, extensive network of bank branches associated with it. A total of 800
of the 2,500 existing branches are to be closed in the next few years, a move
that will cost 5,900 workers in this sector their jobs by 2002.

All told, the planned restructuring will result in 16,000 employees out of a
total workforce of 120,000 (75,000 at Deutsche Bank and 45,000 at Dresdner
Bank) losing their jobs in 2001 and 2002. The merged bank hopes to reduce costs
by nearly 5.9 billion marks a year.

The future core business lines of the new mega-bank, which will retain the name
Deutsche Bank AG, but adopt the Dresdner Bank's green corporate colour in its
logo, will include investment banking, a field of business in which all-out
international competition is seething; asset management, where the new banking
group hopes to outstrip the traditionally dominant Swiss banks; security and
loan banking; and financing for corporate clients ranging from major industrial
corporations to mid-scale companies, where the new group will be the most
powerful financing institution in Europe.

In the field of investment banking, which involves the trading and placement of
securities and stocks in international stock exchanges, Deutsche Bank and
Dresdner Bank have been jockeying for a better market position against each
other, particularly in foreign markets, over the past few years. But
continuously increasing competition from the US, Britain and the Netherlands,
where a concentration has been taking place in the banking sector for years,
was putting more and more pressure on Dresdner Bank particularly, but also on
Deutsche Bank.

Although Deutsche Bank's take-over of the London-based investment group Morgan
Grenfall in 1993 and of the US Bankers Trust group in 1997 allowed it to become
one the world's major investment banking groups (ranking as the eighth largest
bank in the US, for instance), this still didn't solve its main problem: cost.
The average ratio of costs to returns among German banks is 70 percent; as
opposed to this, British banks keep that ratio as low as 40 to 50 percent. In
terms of return on equity, the most important parameter for profitability in
the stock market, Deutsche Bank is at 14 percent, which is high for Germany,
and Dresdner at 8.7 percent. The average return on equity rate of British banks
is 20 to 30 percent.

This resulted in a situation where Deutsche Bank, despite its 1.6 trillion
marks balance-sheet total, had itself come to be regarded as a buyout candidate
in the international finance markets, and has now taken over Dresdner Bank
(despite all the talk of a "marriage of equals").

By American or British standards, many German banks have long since slid down
into the "buyout candidate" category. They have the typical characteristics of
that category: low return on equity and high cost segments, partially
unprofitable industrial holdings and 

[CTRL] PetroChina

2000-03-18 Thread Alamaine

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From http://www.security-policy.org/papers/2000/00-F17.html

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Publications of the Center for Security Policy
No. 00-F 17

SECURITY FORUM

17 March 2000

Senior Legislators Press S.E.C.'s Levitt on PetroChina IPO --
Missives from Reps. Oxley and Baucus Should be Wake-Up Call to S.E.C., U.S.
Investors

(Washington, D.C.): The rising crescendo of opposition to the bid by China
National Petroleum Company (CNPC) to penetrate the U.S. capital markets reached
new heights in recent days -- i.e., at senior levels on Capitol Hill.
Specifically, two chairmen of relevant House subcommittees in letters to the
Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Arthur Levitt, Jr.,
signaled serious concerns about the multi-billion dollar Initial Public
Offering CNPC's wholly owned subsidiary, PetroChina, is expected to offer after
listing next month on the New York Stock Exchange.

The first missive to hit the SEC chairman's desk was sent on 7 March over the
signatures of Representatives Michael Oxley (R-OH), Chairman of the House
Commerce Subcommittee on Financial and Hazardous Materials -- which has direct
oversight over the SEC -- and Spencer Bachus (R.-AL), Chairman of the House
Banking Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy. Noting that
there is "considerable controversy surrounding this proposed IPO," the Oxley-
Bachus letter laid down a clear marker for Chairman Levitt: "To ensure that
investors have full and accurate information regarding this public offering, we
request your assurance that all requirements under the Securities Act of 1933
have been met, in particular the required disclosure relating to the intended
use of proceeds from the offering." (Emphasis added.)

In order to amplify and reinforce the concerns that prompted the 7 March
correspondence, Representative Bachus sent the following, more detailed
communication to Chairman Levitt on 16 March. It raises questions about the
lack of transparency associated with the draft prospectus now being circulated
for the PetroChina IPO -- involving, among other things, both serious omissions
and potentially problematic commissions concerning the use of the proceeds and
their users. Rep. Baucus is to be commended for his call for a "thorough
investigation" by the SEC of "the prospect that many other foreign companies
utilizing the American capital markets to finance activities that are directly
opposed to vital U.S. interests...in order to ensure that...SEC procedures
...are appropriate for guarding our vital national interests."

March 16, 2000
Arthur Levitt
Chairman
U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
450 Fifth Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20549
Dear Mr. Levitt:

I am writing to express my serious concerns about the proposed PetroChina IPO
that was registered with the SEC on Monday, February 28, 2000. My primary
concern is that there has been insufficient disclosure of the potential risks
to investors and of the intended use of the proceeds. The use of proceeds
section does not provide meaningful disclosure of the actual use of the
proceeds by PetroChina nor the extent and use of the proceeds that would accrue
to CNPC. The PetroChina filing also fails to mention the widespread reports of
a divestment campaign or the realistic possibility that future sanctions could
materially affect the value of its shares.

My second concern is that there may have been violations of the proper
procedures for SEC filings based on the events that have already occurred
during the processing of this proposed IPO. As a result of these two concerns,
I am requesting that you require an extended three month period of review
before the registration becomes effective and that you decline any request to
accelerate the effective date. This delay is necessary so that the SEC will
have enough time to determine whether sufficient disclosure has been provided
to potential investors and that no irregularities occurred in the registration
process for the PetroChina IPO.

As you are aware, PetroChina is a subsidiary largely owned by the China
National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC), which is itself a state-owned entity
controlled by the government of the People's Republic of China (PRC). CNPC has
extensive dealings in countries that are currently under United States
sanctions, such as Sudan and Iran, and American companies or persons are
legally prohibited from direct or indirect business dealings with these
countries to protect vital U.S. national interests.

In particular, CNPC is the largest investor in one of Sudan's most profitable
enterprises, and provides vital hard currency for Sudan's government, the
National Islamic Front (NIF). You should be aware that oil revenues largely
support and finance NIF's egregious violations of human rights. There is no
question that oil revenues are an integral part of NIF's genocidal war on its
own population. The Khartoum regime has waged a relentless 17-year 

Re: [CTRL] popery dopery dock

2000-03-18 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Joshua2

The bigger the lie the easier it is to believe.  You weren't there but
let those who were there take things in the context of those war years
write the history.

Are you Jewish? I was in live theatre, for a time,   and was not
uncommmon
for Jewish playwrights to warn against the Jewish persecution complex.

It's the Catholic Church that's under fire.  Be sure of one thing, when
"they" get Pope John Paul they are going to get up a din of hatred
against the Church that will be unparalled in history.

"Figures don't lie; but liars can sure figure"!!

It's diabolical, you can be sure, that the Father of all lies, will
blame the innocent.  Doesn't it seem improbable that Pius could have
done so much harm on 95 acres and a small budget?   The myth of Vatican
wealth has long been disproved by historians; in the time of Luther and
today.

Do you see any value in the antiabortion cause?  Abortion is a far great
er cause than the holocaust that murdered also 6 million gentiles.

Do you recall Stalin saying to Truman,..."how many divisions does the
pope have"?


 Sincerely,


 Don Huffman


P.S. Do other churces of God have any apologies in order to the Catholic
Church?

P.S.S.  Khrushchev said when he came to power that he was going to de-
stroy the Catholic Church.  When told Paul V1 laughed and said,"We
ourselves have been trying to do that for 2000 years and haven't been
able to do that".  Whatever the anti-Catholics try to do sincere or not
were going to be around til the end of time.

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Re: [CTRL] FAKE WACO MEMORIAL SERVICES TO BE HELD AT REBUILT DAVIDIAN

2000-03-18 Thread ali andrew





Eric,

How are you so mislead? I am the watchman 
appointed by the survivors. I have given my life to them and the Martyrs. I am 
protesting the placing of the Abomination That Maketh Desolate. You 
know that this is one of the signs of the coming of Christ. Do you have any idea 
about what is going on down here Biblically?

I am peaceful. And will protest peacefully as 
before, but be assured that I will defend myself to the fullest in the same 
manner that David Koresh and Livingstone Fagan did, if attacked in any physical 
manner. In the video you SEE who is Violent. I am attacked by Clive Doyle and 
his fellow government agents. Many people have seen this video and all agree 
that the building of the new church is a government operation under the control 
of the Bill Clinton Murderers of the Children of Waco.

What is wrong with the minds of the people of the 
country? Do you think that the oppression has stopped! or that you will put an 
end to it by praying? We are at WAR! Wars are not won by Feel Good 
delusions obtained through the Zionist media. Wars are won by fighting, as 
Christ had pointed out that when his Kingdom is of this world then would his 
servants FIGHT. These are the teachings of David Koresh.

The Bill Clinton Murderers of The Children of 
Waco want us to come to closure on this, so it is Feel Good time in 
the minds of the sleeping masses. You are playing right in to the hands of your 
enemy. Hear the ALARM and wake up!

You don't have to be a scholar to understand what 
I am saying, but the beast through the (ZOG) media has got us drunk with the 
wine of her fornication. We are all victims of mind control in this sense. Use 
the power of prayer to suspend this mental confusion and look at the clarity of 
what I am saying.

The church was founded on the Sabbath, Saturday 
18,1999. Also 99% of the Christians in this world believe that Sunday is the 
Sabbath, yet every Sunday work is being done.

Do you believe in the Ten Commandments? 


Only those of 
Anti-Christ will support this Abomination.

If a man who longs to be married falls in love 
with a woman and just before the wedding he finds out that she is a whore; 
Should he still marry her to satisfy his desires, or should he leave her because 
she is an Abomination to those that Love the Lord? 

I am The Watchman and I am telling 
you that this woman that you seek to marry is the cheapest of WHORES known to 
man, she will Make you Desolate!

Lets discuss the teachings for which these people 
gave their lives. O.K.?

Andrew The 
Watchman

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They were HACKED to death before 
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DAVIDIANFrom: Eric Radtke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
CHURCHDate: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:12:04 -0600Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Guess I'll be seeing you 
there, not to protest, but to remember allthose killed in the massacre at 
Waco, and to pray that it will neverhappen again. I am going as a Christian, 
a believer in God and Christ.I hope you protest peacefully, as not to 
disrupt the serious mattersthat will be going on at the rebuilt church. If 
you cared for theDavidians, both survivors and those killed in the massacre, 
you toowould be there to remember them, not protest against them. 
Eric Radtke[EMAIL PROTECTED]ali andrew 
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   Have you no Shame!   Only those of 
Anti-Christ will enter a church built on the Sabbath. ThisAbomination will 
make all those that enter it Desolate. I will be at the gateApril 19, 2000 
to protest the continuing government control of Mt.Carmel byThe Bill Clinton 
Murderers of the Children of Waco. I urge all those of Christto join me in 
this protest against this COVER-UP CHURCH.   
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Be Held on April 19, 2000 in 

[CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.

2000-03-18 Thread Gavin Phillips

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The proof is widespread. The most flagrant comes from repeated statements
by
attorney Jack Thompson about Janet Reno's sexual depravity and alcoholism.


Hearsay. Inadmissable.

Gavin;
Baloney. Thompson has collected a large amount of evidence regarding Reno's
sexual predilections and alcoholism from when he worked in Florida and she
was State Attorney. He publicly accused her of not investigating a child
pornography ring when they threatened to expose her lesbianism.

Either he is lying through his teeth and risking his livelihood, credibility
and a massive lawsuit by Reno, or what he has repeatedly stated is true and
he does  have a substantial amount of evidence to back up his statements

Which again raises the point I made previously which you conveniently
ignored, and that is, why hasn't Reno sued him for slander and libel?

As Thompson says in an interview published in Worldnetdaily

 North: Janet Reno uses call girls?

Thompson: Ollie, let me tell you something. I’ve welcomed Janet Reno to sue
me for the last decade while I’ve said these things, and more importantly,
the Florida Bar — which is filled with politically correct [people], some of
them her campaign contributors in the race she ran against me. The Florida
Bar has every reason to disbar me if I am not telling the truth. I’ve put my
law career on the line by making these allegations. But I have the proof. And
I have people independent of me that can
prove this.”


Also see Michael Rivero's article at;
www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/ARTICLES/RENO.html


She is responsible for the Waco tragedy and FBI/ATF orchestrated mass
murder.


She was partly responsible. Ultimately, the blame lies with Clinton as
ranking official at the time. However, we must remember that the Waco
situation was set up during the Bush administration and was carried out,
not by politicians, but by law enforcement.

Gavin;
The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly be blamed for
the Waco atrocity. Yes, Clinton is responsible, as is Janet Reno for doing
exactly what Clinton wanted. I'm not extricating law-enforcement from their
culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the foot soldiers and
take their orders from Clinton and Reno.

Reno does whatever is necessary to keep Clinton in power, because that is how
she remains in power.






She is one of the most repugnant and rapacious human beings I have ever
come
across.


She's certainly repugnant and rapacious. But there are many worse.



Gavin;
No there are not. She has no conscience or vestige of human decency. She is
at the mercy of her own foul desires and vices and will do whatever is asked
of her. She would gladly have piled the Jews into the trains going to
Treblinka and Dachau.


Bill, Hilary and Reno has to be one of the most nefarious alliances

in American history.


Of recent, public history, yes. But there are far more nefarious
alliances, not all of them public. This one is just in the news a lot. But
compare it to the US intelligence community's Paperclip embrace of Nazi
science after WWII, it's ongoing alliance with the narco-fascistas and
death squads of Latin America or the State Department's years of military
and financial support for Pol Pot. Compare it to the long standing and
ongoing use of the public as mind control and bio-war guinea pigs.

Get a sense of porportion.

Gavin;
I am fully aware of many of America's past despicable acts. That does not
change or belittle Janet Reno, Bill and Hilary Clinton's positions in the
hall of infamy's top 10 most evil people in American politics in the last 60
years. As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here
and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible.





Reno's litany of perfidy and covering Clinton's ass whilst Attorney
General is

well documented and is blatantly obvious to anybody but the incurably

ignorant.


No question about that. But it's nothing new. Remember John Mitchell?

Gavin;
I have no idea who John Mitchell is. Just because it is nothing new does not
mean I will stand idly by and say, owe, so-and-so was far worse back in the
70's. The three most egregious cover-ups during Clinton's tenure are Waco,
The Oklahoma City bombing and TWA 800. These mark his presidency at least in
the top 3 as the most corrupted in American history, in my opinion.





This is the nature of politicians and their flunkies. To expect better is
nieve.

Gavin;
Not to work to make it better is to quit. I will choose my way, you choose
yours.


Rather than focus on individuals in power we would do better to
focus on the system itself.

Gavin;
If the most powerful individuals are totally corrupted, it is better to focus
on them. They are making the laws and policy's.





It is the system that is the real enemy
because it is the system that give scum like this the 

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Prozac Violence - New Research

2000-03-18 Thread Amelia

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In the olden days before HMO's and our enlightenment about so many things,
the test for hyperactivity included such things as poor do-ordination. This
was because the mind was moving at a rate the muscles could not maintain.
Other things like inability to be still or remain at rest were also
considered.  I cannot imagine what the criteria is today but I am sure both
my children would have been l;labeled hyperactive.  One was but I said
nonsense to that.  In those days, early 1980's, the parent still had some
say in the drugging of their children.  It went on but not to this extent.
The friend of one of my son's was diagnosed as ADD because of poor
hand-writing.  The difference is that the parent had the option to disregard
such.  Now, I believe, the parent is labeled negligent if they fail to
immediately sedate the child based on the whim of teachers, doctors, etc.  I
think much of this comes from a poor understanding of the nature of little
boys.  Are we creating a whole generation of dysfunctional males from this
treatment of our male children?  They are SUPPOSED to run around and make
noise and be rowdy at times.  I fear we are rep;acing normal behavior with
desired behavior--desired by teachers, etc. whose job it is to maintain
order at all costs.  I noted many who complained about my children had no
sons, brothers nor husbands.  I wondered even then just where and what they
based their concept of "normal" behavior on.  Came to the conclusion it was
how they wanted children to behave.  Like small sheople.
Amelia


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Prozac  Violence - New Research


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 --- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem is not so much with Prozac, which can be a genuine
 Godsend (ask my wife, who was brought out of a major depression by
 Prozac), as it is with the Western healthcare establishment, which sees
 drugs as panaceas and ignores the need to address what, for want of a
 better term, I can only call the spiritual element in psychiatric
 disorders.

 And not just the healthcare establishment -- our whole society seems to
 want a pill for everything. I was told, by a former friend who is a
 public school teacher -- that I should put my now 6 year old on Ritalin
 -- when he was TWENTY MONTHS OLD!!! Even my pediatrician said that was
 ridiculous. My son is very physical, but he does not in any way have
 ADD or ADHD. I'm watching him play solitaire on his computer right now
 -- he is totally focused and sitting still, except for the hand that is
 moving the mouse. A kid with ADHD couldn't do that. I think a lot of
 psychological/spiritual/behavioral problems would not exist to the
 degree that they do today if people placed more emphasis on each other
 and not on the constant acquisition of stuff.

 Tenorlove,
 writing this with her other son scrunched in the chair beside her



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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hello Don,
   Please believe there is no pleasure in being a messenger
with bad news.  I certainly would never attempt to take away
your "angels and saints".
It occurs to me you already know the answers to these
questions you are asking about the FED.
However, assuming you are sincerely seeking answers,
here is some more information which may be helpful to you.

The fact that the FED Chairman and the Board of Governors
are "appointed" by the government does give the appearance
that there is some degree of government control.
That's the purpose of it.appearances.
The President merely "rubber stamps" an "appointee".
The lengths of the terms and their overlapping periods
guarantees that no President could "stack" the Board of
Governors, even if he wanted to do this.
The plain fact is that the FED is completely unaccountable.
As former House Banking Committee Chairman Henry Gonzales
said: "...totally unaccountable either to the President, or to
the Congress."
Consider that the White House undergoes an annual audit.
So does the Pentagon.  So does every lawful Federal Agency.
But the Federal Reserve has never been audited.
Not once since it's unlawful creation through fraud in 1913.
Here are some telltale figures:
U.S. Public Debt for years:
1913 $2.9  Billion  (FED created this year)
1919  $27  Billion
1941  $48  Billion  (just prior to World War 2)
1946$269  Billion
1963$309  Billion
1973$470  Billion
1983$1.4   Trillion
1993$4.4   Trillion
1999$5.7   Trillion
(Source: U.S. Bureau of Public Debt
 http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opd.htm#history)

As you are probably know, there is a lot of inaccurate
and misleading information floating around on the internet.
It's always a good idea to go "straight to the horse's mouth"
as they say.
I would encourage you to read the words of FED Chairman
Alan Greenspan on this subject.
Here's the address:
 http://www.gold-eagle.com/greenspan041998.html

  On the path to the truth, first you must be aware
  and respect the power of illusion.
  Nothing is what it seems to be.
  Regards to All
 Nakano

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Re: [CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.

2000-03-18 Thread nessie

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Either he is lying through his teeth and risking his livelihood,
credibility

and a massive lawsuit by Reno, or what he has repeatedly stated is true
and
he does  have a substantial amount of evidence to back up his statements


Either way, it's hearsay.



Which again raises the point I made previously which you conveniently

ignored, and that is, why hasn't Reno sued him for slander and libel?


Good question. Maybe she has a competent lawyer.



 North: Janet Reno uses call girls?


(1.) If she uses call girls, so what? Prostitution is a job like any
other. It's no different than hiring a masseur or a psychotherapist.

(2.) Ollie North is a liar. He lied to Congress. He lied to the American
people. He was deeply involved at a command level in the running of
cocaine and the arming of death squads  during the Contra war. He has a
lot of damn gall to criticize anybody, even Reno, for as harmless an act
as hiring a prostitute.



The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly be blamed for

the Waco atrocity.


They set it up.


I'm not extricating law-enforcement from their

culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the foot soldiers
and

take their orders from Clinton and Reno.

That was Eichmann's excuse.


I am fully aware of many of America's past despicable acts. That does not

change or belittle Janet Reno, Bill and Hilary Clinton's positions in the
hall of infamy's top 10 most evil people in American politics in the last
60

years.



Reno's soldiers killed 89 people at Waco. Pol Pot's soldiers, with the
blessings and assisstance of the American government  killed half the
population of Cambodia. Surely you can't mean they are equals.


As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here

and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible.


History is a continuum. What's happening now is happening because of
things that happened in the past. No exceptions.




I have no idea who John Mitchell is.


Then you have a lot of damn gall to be lecturing us about politics. Go
back to school. Learn what you are talking about. Then lecture us about
politics.


The three most egregious cover-ups during Clinton's tenure are Waco,

The Oklahoma City bombing and TWA 800. These mark his presidency at least
in
the top 3 as the most corrupted in American history, in my opinion.


You don't even know who John Mitchell was and yet you think you can rate
the relative corruptedness of the various presidencies!?!   Come on, man.
Be realistic. We aren't all fools here, you know.


In any event,  it doesn't matter who the president is. The president is a
puppet, no more, no less. The real power is behind the scenes.




If the most powerful individuals are totally corrupted, it is better to
focus

on them.


They are corrupt because the system corrupts them. Power corrupts. As long
as we as a society, we as a species, give power to individuals those
individuals will be corrupted buy it. It's only human nature.


They are making the laws and policy's.


They make laws their masters pay them to make. Their masters make the
policies.






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[CTRL] The Strange Case of George Bush and Eli Lilly

2000-03-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
pills-a-go-go
Jim Hogshire©1999
Feral House©1999
PMB 359
Venice, California 90291
www.feralhouse.com
ISBN 0-922915-53-9
247pps – First edition – In-print
-

The Strange Case of
George Bush and Eli Lilly


Bush was practically a secret employee of Eli Lilly while both Vice-
President and President, and very obviously did specific work on Lilly's
behalf. Lilly tried to deny all of this (including Bush's stint on their
Board of Directors) when Pills-a-Go-Go researched the matter. Alexander
Cockburn cited PaGG articles on this and other subjects in his Nation column,
"Beat the Devil."

In March of 1992, President Bush suddenly announced that the $4 billion
genetic-engineering industry could grow to $50 billion by the end of the
decade "if we let it." To help "let it," the administration proposed speeding
the FDA's approval process for biotech drugs only.

But since biotech drugs don't grind through the approval system any more
slowly than other pharmaceuticals, why should the president single them out?

The answer is easy! The administration's move is a payoff to an old
friend—Eli Lilly. It is not the first time the President put himself on the
line for the Indianapolis drug manufacturer—George Bush and Eli Lilly worked
together for two decades, perhaps even longer, depending oil when you figure
Bush's career there really began.

Lilly has had a special relationship with the backroom aspects of government
ever since it obtained the rights to manufacture and market methadone, the
synthetic narcotic invented by the Germans during World War II. Essentially
war spoils, Lilly continues as the country's largest producer of methadone
(brand name Dolophine) for use in hospitals, junkie clinics, and where ever
else federal money flows in as funding.

In 1953, when LSD’s inventor Albert Hoffman would not supply the CIA with his
new compound for use In their mind experiments, Lilly began making acid for
the agency. It even devised a method to mass produce the stuff and seriously
discussed the possibility of manufacturing it by the ton, for use as a
battlefield weapon.

Given this kind of coziness with spooks and the military it's not surprising
that in 1977, after Jimmy Carter fired Bush as head of the CIA, Lilly
promptly put him oil their board of directors. Although Bush had no
experience in pharmaceuticals and, indeed, no particular business expertise
beyond running CIA front company, Zapata Oil, he "worked" for Lilly for the
next two years.

Bush fails to include this in his official biography, Lilly, too, seems to
want to forget the whole thing. According to the corporation’s librarian,
Bush has never worked there! EventualIy one spokesman for Lilly admitted Bush
had been on the payroll, but refused further comment. The matter, for all
practical purposes, remains secret.

George Bush conveniently forgot about his job at Eli Lilly in 1979 when he
began running for President the first time. He sought to cover his Lilly
assets by omitting them on his financial disclosure form, thus concealing
more than $80,000 worth of stock he had in the company. He even went so far
as to claim he had divested himself of all Lilly stock in 1978. When he got
caught in the lie, his lawyer regretted the "factual inaccuracy" and Bush
pressed on as Lilly's secret employee—by now in the guise of Vice-President
of the United States. He used this position to lobby the government to lower
taxes on Lilly's Puerto Rican investments. At that very same time the IRS was
getting aggressive with Lilly in seeking hundreds of millions of dollars it
said the company had avoided paying by pretending those profits had been
generated in tax-sheltered Puerto Rico. Bush eventually made such a pest of
himself, hectoring the state department, that the Supreme Court issued an
order to him to abandon his lobbying efforts, as they were illegal.

As luck would have it, Bush's actions may have been illegal but the law
specifically exempts both the president and tile Vice President from
prosecution in such conflict-of-interest eases. In the end, Bush kept his job
and Lilly kept the tax shelter. The grateful company continued its heavy
financing of the Republican party. It also helped finance Dan Quayle, who had
"come from no here" to serve as Bush's second in command when Bush became
President in 1988. One of Quayle's aides on the Vice Presidents
Competitiveness Council also owns a sizable chunk of Lilly stock.

So it's not surprising that Quayle's Council should recommend certain
alterations in the FDA drug approval process—especially in ways that were
sure to benefit Ell Lilly in particular. Just to be positive it all worked
out though, Lilly executives did conduct a secret meeting with the Council
just before the Vice President emerged with his new recommendations to relax
pollution controls on one of Indiana's largest polluters (Lilly) and to make
crucial changes in the FDA 

Re: [CTRL] U.S. Inconsistent When Secrets Are Loose (fwd)

2000-03-18 Thread nessie

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

An aide to Attorney General Janet Reno said she was deeply

concerned about the appearance of inequity in the handling of

Deutch and Wen Ho Lee, a former scientist at Los Alamos National

Laboratory who faces trial and a possible life sentence for

transferring nuclear secrets to an unsecure computer and portable

tapes, seven of which are missing.



Not to excuse Deutch, but
Wen Ho Lee
 designed H-bombs for a living, a crime against Nature. Anybody that would
do such a thing deserves no sympathy.

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[CTRL] Doomsday Cult Mass Suicide

2000-03-18 Thread William Shannon

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Saturday March 18 1:44 PM ET
Up to 230 Die in Uganda Cult Suicide
KAMPALA (Reuters) - Up to 230 members of a Ugandan Doomsday cult have set
themselves ablaze in their church, police said on Saturday, taking their
lives in the world's second biggest mass suicide of recent times.

Followers of the obscure ``Ten Commandments of God'' sect gathered in a
church 200 miles southwest of the capital Kampala on Friday, a police
spokesman told Reuters.

They set themselves on fire after several hours of chanting and singing.

``Prior to this incident their leader told believers to sell off their
possessions and prepare to go to Heaven,'' the spokesman said.

Police put the death toll between 100 and 230, but said they were having
difficulty counting the bodies which were burned beyond recognition.

``There were families inside, even small children,'' Jonathan Turyareeda, a
local police officer, told Reuters.

Further details from the remote area were not immediately available.

The church is not far north of Rwanda, where 800,000 people were slaughtered
in the 1994 genocide, or from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where the
armies of six African states have been sucked into a messy civil war.

A former British colony once called the Pearl of Africa for its fertile soil
and plentiful rains, Uganda became a byword for African horrors during the
1971-79 dictatorship of Idi Amin, whose regime killed up to 500,000 opponents
and expelled 70,000 people of Asian origin.

More bloodshed followed, often on ethnic lines, until guerrilla leader Yoweri
Museveni won power in 1986, restoring relative peace.

But an extreme Christian cult, the Holy Spirit Movement, sprang up among
northern ethnic groups in the late 1980s. Many hundreds of believers died in
suicidal attacks, believing that magic oil would protect them from the
bullets of Museveni's troops.

Its successor, the Lord's Resistance Army, is still pursing a guerrilla war,
kidnapping large numbers of boys and girls to serve as soldiers and sex
slaves and dodging back and forth across the border with southern Sudan,
which has a long running civil war of its own.

Other disaffected guerrillas operate from bases in the eastern Congo, which
is the main reason Museveni, who comes from the southwest, gives for sending
his troops across the border to support anti-Kinshasa rebels.

Last September, police in central Uganda disbanded another Doomsday cult, the
1,000-member ``World Message Last Warning'' sect.

The cult's leaders were charged with rape, kidnapping and illegal confinement.

Along with its political, religious and ethnic troubles Uganda has one of the
world's highest rates of infection with AIDS.

Museveni's government has tackled the deadly disease with a forthrightness
rare among African governments, slowing its spread through a grassroots
campaign of public awareness.

The largest mass suicide of recent times took place in 1978 when a paranoid
U.S. pastor, the Reverend Jim Jones, led 914 followers to their deaths at
Jonestown, Guyana, by drinking a cyanide-laced fruit drink.

Cult members who refused to swallow the liquid were shot. Jones had carved a
sign over his altar at Jonestown, reading ''Those who forget the past are
doomed to repeat it.''

In recent years there have been several smaller group suicides in Europe and
North America, three of them involving the Solar Temple, an international
sect that believes death by ritual suicide leads to rebirth.

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[CTRL] OPEN LETTER TO MY PRISONERS

2000-03-18 Thread DIG alfred webre

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from abolish-l:

Every citizen, Mr. Bush, should be interested in what's behind the
walls. At current rates it won't be long before half of us are locked
up and the other half are keepers. If you choose to ignore them now,
be aware that most of these prisoners are due to be released one day,
and then the results will be in your world.

My prisoners are without power, and so am I, but together we are. . .

MAKING THE WALLS TRANSPARENT

Open letter to my Florida Prisoners

February 28, 2000

Hello again to my growing list of Florida prisoners. Although many of
you are still waiting on replies, you are very much on my mind. You
have responded in earnest and many of you still haven't gotten a
personal reply from me to your Christmas letters. I'm sorry and I'm
really trying. Some of you know I'm on the road a lot, doing prison
vigils, talking about you and your situation, and how it all affects
society out here.  I spend as much time as possible building your
WebPages. I am transcribing your information and posting it to an
unbelievably responsive email list of about 800 individuals, groups,
media, and list owners who are interested in what you have to say. Do
not stop reporting! I wish I could respond quickly and individually to
each of you. Try as hard as I can, this old lady keeps falling further
behind. Thus, this one letter is to you all, especially my Florida
prisoners.

All of you together are making a powerful picture of the state penal
system. Your reports definately are making the walls transparent and
the people are responding from South Africa, from England and
Scotland, Canada, the Himalayas, from every state in our union. Early
this week, the Washington Post printed an AP article about the
indictment of 4 of the guards who murdered Mr. Valdes at Starke,
calling Florida prisons the worst in the nation. Two TV stations, 2
radio stations, and one newspaper came to the vigil outside Starke on
February 15th (The day the justice department said we had our 2
millionth prisoner locked up. A clip of the Starke vigil was shown on
Comedy Central, the John Dailey Show. This week I was asked to do a 45
minute Rush Limbaugh warm up talk show about Florida Prisons. The
Starke situation will be a part of a soon to be released book by Dave
Ford, author of "Marijuana: Not Guilty As Charged." Dateline NBC has
assured me they are doing an investigative report and 60 minutes II
called about a report on florida prisons.  People are definately
hearing you.

I've gotten letters from you detailing many specific instances of
misuse/abuse, and reporting all manner of general corruption
heretofore unthought of, even by me. From all over the state, from the
mailroom to the laundry; from the budget for pest control to the
expired food they buy; from the commissary practices to the grievance
procedures; from guards selling prison supplies at flea markets to
affairs in the laundry room; from the medical care to the verbal,
mental, and physical abuse and deprivation, the reports support each
other.

There is an occasional Florida prison that could and should be a model
for lowering recidivism, like the federal prison on Eglin Air Force
Base. Some of you are lucky enough to live in one of the more humane
prisons, but on the whole, the Florida system is brutal. I'm sorry to
see the Random Acts of Kindness stories are all too rare, but y'all
can change that among yourselves. Make it happen and learn to see it
when it comes.

Now we need to talk about the next step. A good number of you are
already standing up, encouraging me to put your information on the
internet and to send it to the people and newspapers with your names
attached. Being first is always hard, and I commend your spirits.

Now I need to talk to the rest of you for a minute. If our website had
a hundred inmates listed, or a thousand, our power to get the story
told would increase dramatically. I have no way to protect you from
retaliation for speaking out, but I know if we banded together, we'd
be high profile and the eyes of the nation would come to bear on
Florida's prisons. Your descriptions are good, your complaints valid,
but many say if we can't step up and be named, our words have no
value. I understand your situation better than most, but we have to
move forward or we just lay down and let it go on forever.

I cannot guarantee your safety. You know that. I think only your sheer
numbers could do that. But, if you speak only to me, we are nearly
powerless.

What I can do out here is get the phone calls coming in to the
authorities, garner the attention of the media, the public, and the
authorities. Then you will all become 'high profile' prisoners, and
that in itself at least makes the guards follow the rules more
closely. Beating you while we are watching will only bring them
trouble. Ask Gary Waid. I won't deny you may get a DR. Gary did. He
got two . . . but he didn't get beaten. And he won't 

Re: [CTRL] Prozac Violence - New Research

2000-03-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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All I can say is, "Amen!" But panaceas have always been very American... We
always seem to fall for the line spun by the con artist with the magic
potion; and when the magic potion has a VERY GOOD brand name on it, AND is
*endorsed by the FDA* to boot, well then it MUST really work, mustn't it?

Yah. Right. BTW, I've got a remarkable deal in an only slightly-used bridge
up in Brooklyn...

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Prozac  Violence - New Research
snip

 ...I think a lot of
 psychological/spiritual/behavioral problems would not exist to the
 degree that they do today if people placed more emphasis on each other
 and not on the constant acquisition of stuff.

snip

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[CTRL] Should the NRA be Declared a Terrorist Organization

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Subject: Should the NRA be Declared a Terrorist Organization
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 5:45 PM

While many Americans consider Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, and others to
sponsors of terrorism, the worlds largest terroristic organization is
actually right here in good old America.  The NRA is without a doubt
the greatest supporter of killers, psychopaths, and rotten human scum
as it plies is vile, vicious, ruthless ways on the American public
under the Guise of being a supporter of freedom, when in reality it
supports American NAZIS-Ike cretins who are no better than Tim
McVeigh, the KKK, and the other gun toting morons and killers who form
the core of its membership and support.  Led by some of the most
disgusting, repulsive and venomous humans on the face of the earth,
this group of men who view guns as their penises are Terrorist and a
clear and present danger to the safety and security of America.  Their
actions, support, and bribery of many republican congressional office
holders have led to the deaths of many children and other innocent
victims of savage killers who got their hands on guns thanks solely to
the pimping of the republicans in congress who are the personal whores
of the NRA, like Dan Burton, Bob Smith, Henry Hyde, Bob Barr and other
such human scum in congress who have opposed closing the legal
loop-holes that allow potential killers to be able to purchase guns at
will anwhere in America at any of thousands of GUN SHOWS, and have
prevented CHILDRENS GUN LOCKS from becoming a reality.

The Government should declare the NRA to be a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,
their Leaders and hardcore supporters to be nothing more that vile,
vicious, Terrorist, and put a bounty on each of their heads and turn
the U.  S.  military loose to wipe them out.  Al least, then, they
would be able to take their guns and see just how effective they would
be when faced with real firepower from trained killers who would do to
them what they do to defenseless animals- wipe them out for sport.

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[CTRL] Fold, spindle, and mutilate. The new census.

2000-03-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Subject:
 Fold, spindle, and mutilate.

3/16/00

Every complex system can be easily overcome. Because it requires high
maintenance and not maintaining it can bring down a complex system.
Violence is unnecessary. Public participation is VITAL in the
following categories.

Taxes
Elections
Military
Census

They say that the census is for our benefit. But it is not.
They say the census will help the poor but his is the government
that works for big business and threw the poor off of welfare
while keeping corporations on the dole.

State governments sell private information to businesses.

They say they will keep the information confidential.
How gullible does one need to be to think that corporations
won't get access to this information?

What kind of democracy is this where so many of us so distrust
our own government.

It's not a democracy. It's a plutocracy. For that reason we are
justified in doing so.

In nature the ultimate power is always with the many. This is
why elites need to divide to conquer. The least we can do for
ourselves is to not assist them in our own enslavement.

Joshua2
==

X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MARCH 15 2000 21:52:09 ET X

CENSUS BREAKDOWN: CITIZENS TELL SAM TO SHOVE IT OVER PROBING
QUESTIONS; WILL
PAY FINE

Americans from coast to coast are expressing shock and outrage over
the level
of detailed questioning from the federal government and the 2000
Census, with
thousands of citizens vowing to pay fines rather than submit to the
private
nature of the inquisition, according to congressional sources.

"The census count is already breaking down," said one Hill source.
"People
are in revolt! Calls are flooding into our office... They are very
upset
about the intrusive nature of the questions, such as how a person gets
to
work, whether they have any disabilities, how many cars they own, what
their
income was and who they work for!"

The Constitution of the United States grants the government authority
to
count population, but a "long form" being sent to 1 out of 6 American
households strays far from that goal; requiring answers to more than
53
personal questions or risk penalty.

U.S. Code, Title 13, Section 221 states citizens must fully comply
with the
census or face a $100 fine. There is a $500 penalty for giving false
information.

Census officials received more than 600,000 phone calls on Tuesday,
according
to officials. The majority of the callers lodged complaints about the
probing
nature of the census questions.

And thousands of calls to Capitol Hill took staffers by surprise.

"It's a firestorm," said one congressional aide.

"Is this Al Gore's idea of 'reinventing government?'" one angry caller
complained to a receptionist for a besieged senator. "I have to tell
Washington how I got to work last week? In what type of car? And the
location
of my office? Screw it. I'll pay the 100 bucks!"

Congressmen on Wednesday were referring complaints to the Census
Hotline
[1-800-471-9424].

A cover letter accompanying the long form states that no one will have
access
to the information other than the Census Bureau. Yet many questions
appear to
violate a citizen's right to privacy:

10. What is this person's ancestry or ethnic origin?

11. a. Does this person speak a language other than English at home?
b. What
is this language? c. How well does this person speak English?

12. Where was this person born?

13. Is this person a citizen of the United States?

14. When did this person come to live in the United States?

15. a. Did this person live in this house or apartment 5 years ago? b.
Where
did this person live 5 years ago?

16. Does this person have any of the following long-lasting
conditions:
blindness deafness or a severe vision or hearing impairment? A
condition that
substantially limits one or more basic physical activities such as
walking,
climbing stairs, reaching, lifting or carrying?

18. Was this person under 15 years of age on April 1, 2000?

19. Does this person have any of his/her own grandchildren under the
age of
18 living in this house or apartment? Is this grandparent currently
responsible for most of the basic needs of any grandchildren under the
age of
18 who lives in this house or apartment? How long has this grandparent
been
responsible fort these grandchildren?

22. At what location did this person work LAST WEEK?

23. How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK?

24. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work LAST
WEEK?

25. LAST WEEK, was this person on layoff from a job? LAST WEEK, was
this
person TEMPORARILY absent from a job or business? Has this person been
informed that he or she will be recalled to work within the next 6
months or
been given a date to return to work?

27. Industry or Employer -- Describe clearly this person's chief job
activity
or business last week. If this person had more than one job, describe
the one
at which this person 

Re: [CTRL] popery dopery dock

2000-03-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 Dear Joshua2

 The bigger the lie the easier it is to believe.

You bet. Seen any virgin births lately?

 You weren't there but
 let those who were there take things in the context of those war years
 write the history.

The context of the war years? What does that mean?

 Are you Jewish? I was in live theatre, for a time,   and was not
 uncommmon
 for Jewish playwrights to warn against the Jewish persecution complex.

Isn't that something? Those silly Jews. Always thinking that some
Christian or Muslim doesn't like them. How paranoid can you get?

 It's the Catholic Church that's under fire.  Be sure of one thing, when
 "they" get Pope John Paul they are going to get up a din of hatred
 against the Church that will be unparalled in history.

I doubt it. The Catholic Church is not that important anymore.

 "Figures don't lie; but liars can sure figure"!!

 It's diabolical, you can be sure, that the Father of all lies, will
 blame the innocent.  Doesn't it seem improbable that Pius could have
 done so much harm on 95 acres and a small budget?

Come on now. This line is for idiot consumption, not for smart
folks.

 The myth of Vatican
 wealth has long been disproved by historians; in the time of Luther and
 today.

The Myth of Vatican wealth is hardly mythic if you count just real
estate
alone in places like N.Y. or Chicago or any of the other holdings the
Church has around the world. This wealth is easy to see. Other less
visible
wealth I could not argue about.

 Do you see any value in the antiabortion cause?  Abortion is a far great
 er cause than the holocaust that murdered also 6 million gentiles.

Not to me.

 Do you recall Stalin saying to Truman,..."how many divisions does the
 pope have"?

  Sincerely,

  Don Huffman

 P.S. Do other churces of God have any apologies in order to the Catholic
 Church?

I'm sure the protestants do. But no religion has done as much harm as
Catholocism. To be fair about that statement I must cite the fact that
they had a lot of time in which to do it.

 P.S.S.  Khrushchev said when he came to power that he was going to de-
 stroy the Catholic Church.  When told Paul V1 laughed and said,"We
 ourselves have been trying to do that for 2000 years and haven't been
 able to do that".  Whatever the anti-Catholics try to do sincere or not
 were going to be around til the end of time.

Don't bet on it. The modern world's education will weaken church
doctrine.
Catholic doctrine is counterproductive to humanity in the 21st
century.
ALL supernatural based religions are losing ground and justifiably so.
Religious fantasies simply don't stand up to the advancements of
science.
Today, the Church is expanding ONLY in thirld world countries where
there
is little education and much desperation to exploit. Unfortunately for
them, this is the kind of thing they need least.

Christianity in general is in deep trouble. Every day there are new
finds
in archaeology which put the Christian Myth in the spotlight. It
simply
can't stand up to the scrutiny of history. But for the true believers
it
will matter little. They will simply do what you are doing now. Deny
the
facts and make believe the devil is behind it.


Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Should the NRA be Declared a Terrorist Organization

2000-03-18 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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Zona, the NRA should fighting for our right to keep and bear arms so
these "trained killers" can`t come hunt us down. At least without paying
the price. This business about guns being for hunting is just another
lie spread by the REAL murderers. The paid for professionals at Hand gun
Control Incorporated. Have a nice day. When Americans
can no

own guns you`ll began to see what terrr is
all about.

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Re: [CTRL] Should the NRA be Declared a Terrorist Organization

2000-03-18 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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Zona, the NRA should fighting for our right to keep and bear arms so
these "trained killers" can`t come hunt us down. At least without paying
the price. This business about guns being for hunting is just another
lie spread by the REAL murderers. The paid for professionals at Hand gun
Control Incorporated. Have a nice day. When Americans
can not own guns without being criminals THEN you`ll see what terror is
really all about.

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[CTRL] About Huxley

2000-03-18 Thread Jabr 333

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Listers:

If you haven't read A. Huxley's *A Brave New World,* (1932) you may want to
get this one soon, don't know how I missed this thing way back when, in terms
of having read it.  It discusses specializied breeding farms where humans are
designed and mind control programmed into Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, etc.
caste systems -- where everyone has particular biases and proclivities which
are assigned them.  This follows of course C.D. Hammond's MK ultra govt mind
control programming schemes -- using the Greek system to identify these
personalities...Huxley was a a designer baby...extremely handsome
Greek-looking guy.  The book is a big bro delight -- very very very intensive
Golden Dawn, Crowley-influenced futurisitic study of the U.S.

I did not realize the extent to which Huxley did this manuscript, or how well
it pivots into mind control history of U.S.  Every victim of mc problems must
read this book..

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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Nakano:

Thank you so very much for replying to my questions.  I hope the reader
will study and download into his brain the truth that you wrote.


In your camp,


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[CTRL] Mind Control Operational in Gun Control Incidents?

2000-03-18 Thread lloyd

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A-albionic Research Weekly Update of 3-18-2000
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Subject: Mind Control Operational in Gun Control Incidents?

 It is no secret that many conspiracy researchers suspect that many of
the bizarre "shooting incidents" of recent and not so recent years which
are doing so much to promote the "gun control" agenda of the Federal
Government, are artificially induced via mind control of one sort or
another by operatives closely associated with the "Intelligence Community"
or "National Security Dictatorship."  Though America is quite resistant to
gun control, England and Australia reacted to only a few such incidents
with near complete confiscations!

 There are now quite a number of books with varying degrees of
credibility that lend support to the hypothesis that Manchurian Candidate
style mind control has been experimented with since WWII and may now be
perfected and operational for all manner of "National Security" uses.  We
propose to review these books, with an emphasis on tracing quotes and
documentation to original sources and context whenever possible.  Too
often, authors quote selectively and out-of-context to buttress doubtful
hypotheses.

 With this issue of the Weekly Up-Date, we begin with Dr. George
Estabrooks, hypnotist extraordinary.

NOTES ON GEORGE ESTABROOKS:

 We will start by considering if "mind control" is possible.  George
Estabrooks seems to provide the best authority that it is not only
possible, but capable of being used operationally since WWII at the
latest:

 John Mark's _In Search of the Manchurian Candidate_ provides an
introduction to George "Esty" Estabrooks typical for the literature of
"mind control":

". . .At the time, hypnosis was considered a fringe activity, and there
was little recognition of either its validity or its usefulness for any
purpose--let alone covert operations. Yet there were a handful of serious
experimenters in the field who believed in its military potential. The
most vocal partisan of this view was the head of the Psychology Department
at Colgate University, George "Esty" Estabrooks. Since the early 1930s,
Estabrooks had periodically ventured out from his sleepy upstate campus to
advise the military on applications of hypnotism.

  "Estabrooks acknowledged that hypnosis did not work on everyone and that
only one person in five made a good enough subject to be placed in a deep
trance, or state of somnambulism. He believed that only these subjects
could be induced to such things against their apparent will as reveal
secrets or commit crimes. He had watched respected members of the
community make fools of themselves in the hands of stage hypnotists, and
he had compelled his own students to reveal fraternity secrets and the
details of private love affairs--all of which the subjects presumably did
not want to do.

  "Still his experience was limited. Estabrooks realized that the only
certain way to know whether a person would commit a crime like murder
under hypnosis was to have the person kill someone. Unwilling to settle
the issue on his own by trying the experiment, he felt that government
sanction of the process would relieve the hypnotist of personal
responsibility. "Any 'accidents' that might occur during the experiments
will simply be charged to profit and loss," he wrote, "a very trifling
portion of that enormous wastage in human life which is part and parcel of
war."

  "After Pearl Harbor, Estabrooks offered his ideas to OSS, but they were
not accepted by anyone in government willing to carry them to their
logical conclusion. He was reduced to writing books about the potential
use of hypnotism in warfare. Cassandra-like, he tried to warn America of
the perils posed by hypnotic control. His 1945 novel, Death in the Mind,
concerned a series of seemingly treasonable acts committed by Allied
personnel: an American submarine captain torpedoes one of our own
battleships, and the beautiful heroine starts acting in an irrational way
which serves the enemy. After a perilous investigation, secret agent
Johnny Evans learns that the Germans have been hypnotizing Allied
personnel and conditioning them to obey Nazi commands. Evans and his
cohorts, shaken by the many ways hypnotism can be used against them, set
up elaborate countermeasures and then cannot resist going on the
offensive. Objections are heard from the heroine, who by this time has
been brutally and rather graphically tortured. She complains that "doing
things to people's minds" is "a loathsome way to fight." Her qualms are
brushed aside by Johnny Evans, her lover and boss. He sets off after the
Germans--"to tamper with their minds; Make them traitors; Make them work
for us."

  "In the aftermath of the war, as the U.S. national security apparatus
was being constructed, the leaders of the Central Intelligence 

Re: [CTRL] Should the NRA be Declared a Terrorist Organization

2000-03-18 Thread nessie

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While many Americans consider Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, and others to

sponsors of terrorism, the worlds largest terroristic organization is

actually right here in good old America.



Correct. It's called the United States Government.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: WHISTLE BLOWER BANNED FROM COURTS FOREVER]

2000-03-18 Thread v2o

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RMNews just recieved an email from Rodney Stich in which he stated he
has
been barred from filing lawsuits against government corruption 
forever!!!

If the government can use the court system to keep its corruption hidden
from
the people --- what hope do we have of ever getting justice?


FROM RODNEY STICH --- ONE OF THE ORIGINAL WHISTLE BLOWERS --

AUTHOR OF

DEFRAUDING AMERICA

DISAVOW

DRUGGING AMERICA

UNFRIENDLY SKIES

 A HREF="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/"Introduction and
description of
widespread government corruption./A
http://www.defraudingamerica.com/
THE ABOVE LINK WILL TAKE YOU TO ALL RODNEY'S BOOKS ---

RODNEY WROTE TO RAYELAN ALLAN:

For your information:
I went to the Oakland U.S. district court last Monday and submitted
my
lawsit
to the clerk. It seems they were waiting for me. What happened next  is
very
important and has serious national implications. The clerk advised me
that
they
cannot allow me to file anything in the court, that Judge Marily Patel
had
rendered an order in 1988 barring me for the remainder of my life from
filing
anything in court and in that way voiding for me all rights and
protections
under
the laws and Constitution of the United States.

Now, this has very serious implications, that any judge can block a
whistleblower
from reporting federal crimes to a federal judge, as provided by Title
18 USC
Section 4, and that the whistleblower suffering government retaliation
by
federal
judges cannot defend himself. This is not hyperbole. This is real!

One ramification of this is that federal judges are willing to
prostitute the
laws and Constitution of the United States when it suits them, such as
blocking
reporting of federal crimes in which they themselves are implicated.

I will attach to this a copy of the lawsuit that I tried to file. The
lawsuit
is
also on the web site at www.defraudingamerica.com, with a click at the
bottom
of
that page.

 A
HREF="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_highlights.html"Highlights
 of lawsuit exposing documented pattern of judicial corruption./A
http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_highlights.html

 A
HREF="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_complaint.html"Federal
lawsuit documenting wide pattern of judicial corruption/A

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_complaint.html
Although I am the plaintiff in that lawsuit, it could have been used as
a
platform by any group wanting to expose the documented pattern of
corruption
in
federal courts. It needs an attorney to file so as to get filed in
court. I'm
weighing my options.

There is also the possibility, or proability, tht Judge Patel will
charge me
with
criminal contempt of court and with the help of Justice Department
prosecutors
send me to federal prison for having sought to report federal crimes and
trying
to defend myself against judicially inflicted civil rights violations.

What country are we in, for god sake!


--
Rodney Stich, E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.unfriendlyskies.com
http://www.defraudingamerica.com
http://www.druggingamerica.com

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Re: [CTRL] Bonesmen George W. Bush ('68), Governor of Texas and . . .

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Of course I expect you to doubt my view on things!  I thought that debate and
dissension was the sort of environment that this posting system encouraged.

If I criticise one of your postings or that of anyone else's I expect you to
come back fighting! I do it to find out whether or why the poster thinks
their information is right.

But at least make a better fist of it than just accusing me of spreading
disinformation. At least provide some evidence!

Peace anyway. Most of your postings I find useful and interesting. And yes,
we do have more in common than difference.

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Re: [CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.

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Reno's soldiers killed 89 people at Waco. Pol Pot's soldiers, with the
blessings and assisstance of the American government  killed half the
population of Cambodia. Surely you can't mean they are equals.

The "blessings and assistance of the American government"? Are you sure about
that?
It's not like the US actually represented a higher level of government in
IndoChina and just decided that it would let the KR have the run of things.
The KR did overthrow the existing government at the time - a government the
US had propped up. And later the KR did hijack a US ship which required US
marines to go into KR controlled Cambodia at considerable loss of life to
rescue the ship's crew. Hardly the actions likely to encourage the US to
assist the KR.

There is evidence that US indirectly supported the KR via Thailand's support
for the anti-Vietnamese forces, but that was after the main orgy of violence
had occurred under Pol Pot's regime.

Otherwise, yes, your right, it's a long bow to liken Pol Pot to Clinton

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Re: [CTRL] fear and the developing child's brain

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Hi !

Below please find information about violence in childhood.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick


from http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/civitas/Vio_child.htm

Violence and Childhood: How Persisting Fear Can Alter the Developing Child’s
Brain

A Special ChildTrauma Academy WebSite version of: The Neurodevelopmental
Impact of Violence in Childhood Bruce D. Perry, M.D., Ph.D.

"Violence in the Home

Childhood is a dangerous time. For infants and children, survival is
dependent upon adults, most typically, the nuclear family. It is in the
family setting that the child is fed, clothed, sheltered, nurtured and
educated. Unfortunately, it is in the familial incubator that children are
most frequently manipulated, coerced, degraded, inoculated with destructive
beliefs and exposed to violence.

The home is the most violent place in America (Straus, 1974). In 1995, the
FBI reported that 27% of all violent crime involves family on family
violence, 48% involved acquaintances with the violence often occurring in the
home (National Incident-Based Reporting System, Uniform Crime Reporting
Program, 1999). Children are often the witnesses to, or victims of, these
violent crimes."

"A current working hypothesis regarding the effects of traumatic events on
the neurobiology of the developing child posits that the specific symptoms a
child develops will be related to the intensity and duration of the adaptive
style (or combination of adaptive responses) present during the threat. If
the neurobiology of the specific response (hyperarousal or dissociation) is
activated long enough, there will be molecular, structural and functional
changes in those systems (Perry, 1994; Perry et al., 1995; Perry, 1997; Perry
 Pollard, 1998)."

"If a child dissociates in response to a severe trauma and stays in that
dissociative state for a sufficient period of time, she will alter the
homeostasis of the systems mediating the dissociative response (i.e., opioid,
dopaminergic, HPA axis). A sensitized neurobiology of dissociation will
result and she may develop prominent dissociative-related symptoms (e.g.,
withdrawal, somatic complaints, dissociation, anxiety, helplessness,
dependence) and related disorders (e.g., dissociative disorders, somatoform
disorder, anxiety disorders, major depression)."

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[CTRL] The Politicos 1865-1986 - William C Whitney/Elihu Root the Whisky Trust

2000-03-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Politicos 1865-1986
Matthew Josephson©1938
Harcourt, Brace and Compnay
New York
760 pps. – First Edition – Out-of-print
-
William C Whitney (SB 1863)

-- the young Mr. Elihu Root as counsel to the Whisky Trust, prosecuted under
the Sherman Anti-Trust Law. The Whisky Trust (American Cattlefeed and
Distilling Company), famous at the moment for having attempted to have an
independent distillery in Chicago blown up by dynamite, was under prosecution
in several States at the same time, like the Standard Oil Company. But the
case had been won before Federal Judge Jenkins in Massachusetts, on the
afterward familiar ground that "manufacturing is not commerce"; Judge Jenkins
had promptly been appointed to the United States Supreme Court by President
Harrison. But among Mr. Olney's satisfied employers who had seen him "riddle"
the Anti-Trust Act in court we find once more the ubiquitous Mr. Whitney,
who, with the stealthy Mr. Ryan, held much stock then in the Whisky Trust.
Like the protective tariff, the Trust law was to be administered by a
"friend,"—indeed by "the hired man of the Whisky Trust." [14] --

Om
K
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The other cabinet members were unknowns, in part mediocre political
selections) in part personal friends, such as Wilson Bissell, the Postmaster
General, a native of Buffalo; but their selection too was not without
significance. A familiar figure from the old regime was Daniel Lamont,
earlier private secretary to Cleveland at Albany and at the White House, and
now named Secretary of War. Lamont had been an aide and protege of the late
New York boss, Daniel Manning, and was a master of Organization craft and
lore. To Cleveland he had been an indispensable and trusted servant. During
the Republican interregnum, Whitney had found the bald-headed, closemouthed
little man with the walrus mustaches most useful as a confidential aide in
his stock-market forays. Whitney, with his increasingly sinister Wall Street
reputation, could no longer be invited into the Cabinet any more than Henry
Villard. But Lamont, considerably enriched, more secretive and silent than
ever, was Whitney's alter ego in the Cabinet, the custodian of presidential
secrets and the "Assistant President," as political observers called him.
"Lamont in some respects filled the place of William C. Whitney in
Cleveland's first Administration, " and was also "the means of communication
. . . between Cleveland and the big business men of the country." [6] Thus
the restless hand of the uncanny Whitney still hung over the Administration
for years-even more potent than if he had been present at its councils-though
he held himself in the shadows now, sometimes fearing even to show himself in
Washington.* [* "Because of articles about me [in the press] intended for the
annoyance of Cleveland it would be thought wrongly of at this time." (Lamont
Papers, letter of June 1, 1895.)]

The many illuminating letters and dispatches from Whitney to Lamont, arriving
almost daily at certain seasons, show what close watch Whitney kept over the
affairs of the National Government, testify to his constant requests for jobs
and places to be turned over to friends of the Standard Oil family, and
record his demands for special government favors to friendly banks, as well
as his detailed advice and virtual orders in matters of taxation, tariff
schedules, and financial policy.

"If I want a thing I will ask for it," Whitney writes Lamont breezily at the
very beginning of the new term.[7] And the mousy Lamont carries out all
requests promptly, or goes noiselessly to the President's office to transmit
Mr. Whitney's views as to which banking syndicate should be awarded the
profitable financing of a government-bond issue, or which tariff duties
should be "specific" and which "ad valorem."[8] A message comes, and Lamont
sends off a War Department memorandum requesting the assignment of
post-office deposits to a certain New York bank of which "Mr. Whitney is one
of the largest owners." [9] One spirited communication reads:

In making plans I hope August Belmont  Co., will have the opportunity of
being made the financial agents of the different departments. Brown Bros.
were made so when we were in before but they did little or nothing this time
and I think Belmont entitled to consideration. He took the chairmanship of
the bankers' committee and gave $10,000 himself.[10]

Lamont is Secretary of War; but military duties do not occupy enough of his
time. He glides from the Post Office to the White House, to the corridors of
the Senate, back to the Treasury Department, where, at periods, he seems to
supersede Carlisle. The advance knowledge he possesses concerning financial
actions contemplated by the Administration, concerning duties on sugar or
steel, upon which impassioned and notorious speculation in Wall Street
largely centered in the 1890s—all this is of supreme value, giving tactical

[CTRL] Holy See ya! Vatican to get booted from U.N.?

2000-03-18 Thread Bill Richer

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--
--
 TESTING THE FAITH
Catholics in crossfire again
Abortion-rights groups try
to boot Vatican out of U.N.

--
--

By Mary Jo Anderson
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Republican National Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson is demanding that Vice
President Al Gore repudiate two "anti-Catholic" groups that are calling for
the eviction of the Holy See from the United Nations.
The National Abortion Rights Action League and the Women Leaders Online, both
groups enthusiastically endorsing Gore for president, are supporting "See
Change," a campaign to oust the Vatican from the United Nations. Since 1964,
the Vatican has had "permanent observer" status at the U.N. -- enabling it to
play an active role and vote with other countries at U.N. conferences, but
not in the General Assembly.

Representatives of various nations are gathered at the United Nations in
preparation for June's "Beijing +5" Special Session of the General Assembly,
entitled, "Women 2000: Gender Equality, Development and Peace for the
Twenty-First Century."

In the midst of deliberations over how to globally implement its "Platform
for Action" -- which had stalled over language that would make abortion and
sexual orientation universal human rights -- the abortion advocacy group
Catholics for a Free Choice held a press conference outlining its "See
Change" campaign to have the Holy See lose its status as a Non-member State
Permanent Observer. NARAL and Women Leaders Online are enthusiastically
supporting Catholics for a Free Choice's denunciation of the Vatican.

The term Holy See stands for the central authority of the Roman Catholic
Church, which includes the tiny sovereign State of Vatican City.

"As a Catholic, I am appalled that Al Gore has courted the support of two
groups trying to throw the Vatican out of the United Nations," Nicholson
said. "See Change's anti-Catholic goal is to evict the Vatican from the U.N.,
to silence the voice of Pope John Paul and to prevent one billion Catholics
from speaking up for morality and justice at the world's most prominent
international forum," Nicholson said.

"Does Al Gore agree with these anti-Catholic goals? If not, why does he
refuse to stand up and repudiate them? Why doesn't Gore reject the
endorsements of these anti-Catholic groups?

"The pattern here is disturbing," Nicholson added. "First, Al Gore and
Hillary Clinton insulted Jewish Americans by kissing the ring of Al Sharpton,
a racist and anti-Semite whose words and deeds have led to the deaths of
Jews, blacks and others. Then Gore accepts the endorsement of NARAL, a group
trying to diminish the Vatican."

As one of the nation's most powerful pro-abortion special interest groups,
NARAL's endorsement of Gore was expected, especially since Gore continues to
support the controversial practice of partial birth abortion -- called
"infanticide" by Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

In an election year that has witnessed several attempts to claim the Catholic
vote, the response of candidates to the attempt to remove the Vatican is
being closely watched.

Tuesday, at the U.N. headquarters in New York, under the sponsorship of the
United States mission to the U.N., Catholics for a Free Choice spokeswoman
Frances Kissling claimed she had gathered the signatures of 400 organizations
to be given to the U.N.

Anika Rahman, of an associated abortion rights group, Center for Reproductive
Law and Policy, said the Vatican's position at the United Nations was
analogous to giving a U.N. seat to the Politburo.

Rahman contends the Vatican does not qualify as a sovereign state in
international law and therefore is not entitled to its deliberative status --
even though it is recognized as a sovereign state by 177 nations, issues
passports, has its own postal system, legal territory and resident citizens.
Territorial size is not a factor in determining sovereignty, counter Vatican
supporters.

"In the context of the international meetings sponsored by the United Nations
to promote women, the Holy See has taken positions that are antithetical to
women's rights," a press release from the Center for Reproductive Law and
Policy stated.

Critics of the "See Change" campaign point out the obvious -- that the real
target is not to determine the sovereignty of the Vatican, but to silence its
pro-life voice in the U.N.

Addressing the press at the U.N. on Wednesday, Focus on the Family, Mary
Ellen Bork, Family Research Council and Rabbi Yehuda Levin of Jews for
Morality all expressed their support of the Vatican's presence at the U.N.,
and denounced Kissling's "See Change" coalition calling for U.N. Secretary
General Kofi Annan to demote the Vatican to a Non-Governmental Organization.

[CTRL] (no subject)

2000-03-18 Thread Bill Richer

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--
--
 U.N.'s shaky foundation
By Alan Keyes

--
--

Republican Party elites who have worked so hard to nominate George W. Bush
tend to be uncomfortable with the conservative agenda of defending American
sovereignty. Is this charge unfair? Certainly it is the Democrats who are
most eager to blur the line between the nation and the world. But Republican
support for such internationalist briar patches as the Kosovo intervention
and the World Trade Organization reveals a deep confusion about American
sovereignty and why it matters. As Republican "strategists" plot their autumn
"gotcha's" for Al Gore, they seem oblivious to the fact that an entire core
Republican constituency may walk away from the Republican ticket, unless that
ticket takes a clear stand on the sovereignty issue. The Republican
leadership needs to understand why concern over the issue is so high, and I'd
like to explain it to them.
The center of internationalism, of course, is the United Nations. So if we
are to understand what is wrong with internationalism, we need to understand
clearly what the United Nations represents. To be fair, we should begin by
acknowledging that the U.N. arose from motives that, however misguided, were
not altogether malicious. Despite the dangerous flaws in the conception and
development of the United Nations' vision of global unity, it is important to
remember that the effort itself began during the closing days and aftermath
of the Second World War. At the end of such a period of exhausting war and
wickedness it was natural that there would be a great desire to relieve the
world of it happening again. The nations that originally formed the U.N. were
those that had just heroically spent themselves in the struggle to defeat
international evil. We should be slow to criticize their decent impulse to
use that moment of great moral focus to lay a foundation of common action
that would prevent the return of the unimaginable wickedness they had just
seen.

The Charter of the United Nations states that one of the basic purposes of
the organization is "promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and
for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex,
language, or religion." On Dec. 10, 1948, the General Assembly of the United
Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Much as the Declaration of Independence did in the American context, the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights has come to epitomize the effort of the
United Nations to advance the cause of human dignity in the world.

So why are conservatives so worried about yielding some of our national
sovereignty to an organization aiming at such high and noble goals? Should we
not fall in line with the more general effort of people around the world to
overcome the distinctions and divisions of nationhood and replace them with a
global community -- particularly when it is so clear that communication
technologies and other factors are rapidly producing a global community
whether the governments of nations like it or not?

That sounds good, until you look at the actual record of the United Nations
over the past half-century. For all the formal rhetoric about human rights,
the United Nations has failed to advance that cause. This failure is
particularly marked in precisely those areas that involve the attempt to
translate the universal language of the Universal Declaration into concrete
respect for human rights. On issue after issue we can tell the sorry story of
the impotence and even the active complicity of the United Nations in the
systematic suppression of both understanding of and respect for those rights.
Like accumulating symptoms that point undeniably to some hidden cause of
physical illness, so the record of the United Nations in advancing human
rights is a list of the symptoms of a fundamental corruption in the effort
itself.

We all need to ask the causes of this failure, because we need to learn from
it. Republican leaders need to learn from it the reasons that many of their
core supporters will withdraw that support if the Republican ticket is tone
deaf on the sovereignty issue. But there is a more important reason to ask
why the U.N. has failed. It is that whatever the eventual fate of the United
Nations may be, or of the Republican ticket in this fall's election, the
effort to advance the universal cause of justice will continue. It is
particularly important that the United States and its citizens take an
intelligent and effective part in this effort, and that means we must
understand the root cause of what has gone wrong with the United Nations.

That cause of failure is actually quite clear. The founders of 

[CTRL] China army on high alert as Taiwan votes - HK paper

2000-03-18 Thread Bill Richer

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China army on high alert as Taiwan votes - HK paper


Updated 9:46 PM ET March 17, 2000
HONG KONG, March 18 (Reuters) - China's armed forces are on high alert to
take action if pro-independence candidate Chen Shui-bian wins Taiwan's
presidential election, a Beijing-backed newspaper in Hong Kong said on
Saturday.
"To tackle any sudden results of the elections, the People's Liberation Army,
airforce and navy is on high alert and ready to take measures according to
the existing situation," the Wen Wei Po quoted an unnamed source as saying.

"If Chen Shui-bian takes the seat (of power), turbulence is inevitable. It
will increase the likelihood of our using force to solve the Taiwan
question," the paper said.

U.S. Defence Secretary William Cohen said in Tokyo on Friday he saw no signs
that China was preparing to attack Taiwan, but he warned Beijing that the use
of force was not an acceptable way for the rivals to settle differences.

The Hong Kong daily carried a banner headline on page three and splashed
pictures of a partially submerged submarine and helicopters, as well as
photos of tanks and missiles.

"The Chinese government is paying close attention to Taiwan's regional
elections," it said.

Taiwan began voting in presidential elections on Saturday after all-night
rallies that drew hundreds of thousands of citizens.

The prospect of a win by the pro-independence candidate has alarmed Beijing,
which considers Taiwan a rebel province and has threatened to invade if the
island of 23 million people declared statehood.




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[CTRL] FOCUS-Taiwan president-elect woos China

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FOCUS-Taiwan president-elect woos China


Updated 8:52 AM ET March 18, 2000
By Andrew Browne
TAIPEI, March 18 (Reuters) - Risking Beijing's fury, Taiwan voters on
Saturday elected as president the leader of a pro-independence party, but
Chen Shui-bian offered immediately to make a "journey of reconciliation" to
the mainland.

Jubilant supporters of Chen set off firecrackers after his dramatic victory
that ended more than five decades of Nationalist Party rule in crushing style.

Chen narrowly defeated independent James Soong. Lien Chan, candidate of the
Nationalist Party which has ruled Taiwan since 1945, trailed a distant third.

There was no immediate response from China, which has threatened to invade if
Taiwan declared independence.

Beijing has issued a stream of ominous threats about the possibility of a
Chen win, with Premier Zhu Rongji warning last week that if Taiwan's voters
acted impulsively they might not get a second chance.

However, in his first public comments as president-elect, Chen extended an
olive branch to Beijing.

"Before my inauguration I hope to make a journey of reconciliation to China,"
he said. Chen will be sworn into office on May 20.

"Our goal is reconciliation with good intentions, active cooperation and
eternal peace," he told a news conference.

CHEN OFFERS PEACE PACT

Chen said he welcomed a visit to the island by Chinese President Jiang Zemin
and Premier Zhu Rongji and wanted to talk with them about opening direct
trade, travel and investment links.

He also proposed a "peace agreement" and "military confidence-building"
measures, without elaborating.

"Safety in the Taiwan Strait is the common expectation of peoples on the two
sides," he said.

Nevertheless, he rejected as "unacceptable" China's "one country, two
systems" formula for reunification, saying Taiwan would not follow in the
steps of Hong Kong and Macau.

Chen's Democratic Progressive Party openly espouses independence, but Chen
backpedaled on the issue to avoid scaring voters.

He has promised that if elected he would not hold a referendum on
independence or change the flag and constitution.

The final official tally showed Chen with 4.9 million votes, Soong with 4.6
million and Lien with 2.9 million.

Turnout among Taiwan's 15.46 million eligible voters was 82.69 percent.

Tens of thousands of Chen's supporters thronged a huge stage outside his
campaign headquarters blowing plastic horns, cheering and singing.

"President Chen, President Chen," they chanted.

LIEN SAYS "I'M SORRY"

A subdued Lien, wearing a dark suit and with his former beauty queen wife by
his side, conceded defeat at his party's headquarters.

"I feel very sorry," he said in hushed tones, bowing his head.

"I've let down everybody's high hopes."

The Nationalists have run Taiwan since 1945, when the island was handed back
to China by Japanese colonisers at the end of World War Two. The Nationalists
then held power on the mainland.

In 1949, the Nationalists led by generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek fled to Taiwan
after their defeat in civil war at the hands of the Communist Red Army. They
ruled for four decades under martial law before ushering in democracy.

Before the results were announced, Taiwan's military pledged to back whoever
won.

"On behalf of the armed forces, I hereby pledge to the would-be
commander-in-chief that the armed forces will be loyal, make sacrifices and
contributions, and defend the national security of the Republic of China,"
Chief of Staff Tang Yao-ming said in a statement.

Democratic reforms introduced since the late 1980s have de-politicised
Taiwan's 400,000-strong military.

In the face of fresh threats from China, Defence Minister Tang Fei has
instructed the military to "increase their overall alertness and strengthen
their guard," the statement said.

It quoted Tang as saying Taiwan "did not seek war, but neither did it fear
conflict."

"We are reborn," said Chiang Cheng-hui, a 27-year-old accountant waving a
flag of the Democratic Progressive Party, which was born 14 years ago in the
days of martial law.





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[CTRL] Nasa pulls back from Mars

2000-03-18 Thread Bill Richer

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Nasa pulls back from Mars



MPL report will make 'sober reading'

By BBC News Online science editor Dr David Whitehouse

The United States is to abandon its ambitious plans to bring back rocks from
the surface of Mars before the end of the decade. It is a decision that could
set back hopes of an astronaut landing on the Red Planet by many years.



The search for life on the Red Planet will have to slow down

Dr Carl Pilcher
 The devastating news was broken to space scientists at this week's annual
Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston, Texas, by Dr Carl Pilcher.
He is the scientist leading Nasa's planetary exploration programme.

"The search for life on the Red Planet will have to slow down until people on
Earth have worked out how to land on Mars without crashing," he said.

Last year's double loss of two Mars probes has forced Nasa to take a long
hard look at its Mars plans.

A mission to land another robot on Mars next year has effectively been
cancelled. It is likely to be replaced with smaller-budget probes that are
being hurriedly designed in Houston and at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena, California. A Mars Orbiter mission will, however, go ahead.

The law

Before the loss of the Mars Polar Lander (MPL) last year, Nasa's plans called
for a sample return mission that would bring back the first Mars rocks to
Earth in October 2008. But Dr Pilcher said, that in the light of recent
events, the timetable was wildly optimistic: "The jury is out on whether we
have the technological capability."



Carl Pilcher - minus the sweatshirt

Breaking the bad news to space scientists, Dr Pilcher had on a sweatshirt
that declared: "Obey Gravity: It's the Law."

Despite the bitter news, he insisted the Mars exploration programme would
continue and confirmed that a Mars-orbiting science platform would be
launched next year.

He would not discuss the results of the recent study into the loss of the
Mars Polar Lander, due to be published at the end of the month, but he said
the report's conclusions "make sober reading".

"Our next lander on Mars had better work," he said.




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[CTRL] Fwd: CLINTON WAS ACQUITTED 62 CENTS AGO

2000-03-18 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello Carmine,
Thank you for your reply.
Just some points to ponder.
A few multinational oil companies own and control:
1. Most of the world's major oil pipelines
2. Most of the world's oil tanker fleets
3. Most of the world's oil storage tank farms
4. Most of the world's oil refineries
5. Most of the world's gasoline pipelines
6. Most of the world's gasoline storage tank farms
7. Most of the world's gasoline tanker truck fleets
8. Most of the world's retail gasoline outlets
These same few oil companies have done most of the
world's oil exploration and have drilled and developed
virtually all of the world's important oil fields (including
offshore production).

Now, all of the above are on one end of the seesaw.
On the other end are the "oil-producing countries" (OPEC).
Who do you think controls the "seesaw"?
It isn't OPEC.
These countries are at the mercy of the International
Oil Cartel.
These countries are easily manipulated and played against
each other. If you doubt this, just take a good look at what
has occured in Indonesia in the last 3 years.
If the world was truly running short of crude, then perhaps
the producing countries would be able to dictate to the
Oil Cartel.
However, there is no shortage of crude (Proven Reserves).
The usual world oil market condition is one of "glut".
Therefore OPEC doesn't hold any "trump cards".

The International Oil Cartel loves to blame OPEC for
the rising prices.
Guess what?
The same people who own and control the Oil Companies
also own and control most of the so-call 'News Media"
in the United Statesthe same TV Networks and
Newspapers who are telling you: "It's OPEC's fault!"
 Regards to All
Nakano




Hello Carmine,
Thank you for your reply.
Just some points to ponder.
A few multinational oil companies own and control;
1. Most of the world's major oil pipelines
2. Most of the world's oil tanker fleets
3. Most of the world's oil storage tank farms
4. Most of the world's oil refineries
5. Most of the world's gasoline pipelines
6. Most of the world's gasoline storage tank farms
7. Most of the world's gasoline tanker truck fleets
8. Most of the world's gasoline outlets
These same few oil companies have done most of the
world's oil exploration and have drilled and developed
virtually all of the world's important oil fields (including
offshore production).

Now, all of the above are on one end of the seesaw.
On the other end are the "oil-producing countries" (OPEC).
Who do you think controls the "seesaw"?
It isn't OPEC.
These countries are at the mercy of the International
Oil Cartel.
These countries are easily manipulated and played against
each other. If you doubt this, just take a good look at what
has occured in Indonesia in the last 3 years.
If the world was truly running short of crude, then perhaps
the producing countries would be able to dictate to the
Oil Cartel.
However, there is no shortage of crude (Proven Reserves).
The usual world oil market condition is one of "glut".
Therefore OPEC doesn't hold any "trump cards".

The International Oil Cartel loves to blame OPEC for
the rising prices.
Guess what?
The same people who own and control the Oil Companies
also own and control most of the so-call 'News Media"
in the United Statesthe same TV Networks and
Newspapers who are telling you: "It's OPEC's fault!"
 Regards to All
Nakano





[CTRL] Fw: Feds Threaten To Take Over Ohio Police Department

2000-03-18 Thread K

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 A HREF="http://www.leaa.org/columbus.html"LEAA Special
Report: Feds
Taking Over Local Law Enforcement/A
http://www.leaa.org/columbus.html

Feds Threaten To Take Over Ohio Police Department:
Could Your Town Be Next?

(The following is part of a special investigation by LEAA into the
ever-expanding role the Clinton/Gore Justice Department is taking in
controlling local law enforcement. Stay tuned for continued coverage
of this issue on a weekly basis. More information will also be
published in the next edition of LEAA's magazine, SHIELD.
Additionally, LEAA is sharing information with Calibre Press' Street
Survival Newsline who are helping bring this important news to law
enforcement officers across the country)


A legal battle is now being waged in U.S. District Court in
Columbus,
Ohio, pitting the legal weight and limitless financial resources of
the U.S. Justice Department against that town's right to control its
own police department. At stake is no less than the fate of local
agencies everywhere to control their own destinies versus an
emerging
pattern by the Clinton Justice Department aimed at federalizing
municipal police departments.

Unfortunately, Columbus isn't the first victim. Already federal
takeovers of
departmental policy have occurred in Steubenville, Ohio, and in
Pittsburgh,
Penn. The police administrators in these two cities were, more or
less, forced to sign consent decrees admitting their departments
had
participated in a pattern of civil rights violations and therefore
needed the federal

government to come in and run all future operations. What sets
Columbus apart, what makes them different from these other two
cities
which acquiesced, is that this municipality has a contract with the
local police union and can't make a deal with the devil without
approval of FOP members - and thankfully they're fighting. The city's
30-year history of collective bargaining with rank-and-file legally
forbids the city from exposing its

officers to many of the changes demanded by the DOJ.

Therefore, since Columbus and the police union have decided not to
sign the consent decree, the Department of Justice has filed a
lawsuit
against the city to recoup all federal grant money awarded over the
years. Some would call this extortion. Bill Capretta, president of the
Capitol City Lodge No. 9 of the Fraternal Order of Police in
Columbus,
says the lawsuit is the "latest step in a Justice Department
campaign
to impose federal (law enforcement) standards on police
departments
nationwide."

Alleging a "pattern of civil rights abuses" by the Columbus police
department, DOJ attorneys filed their suit on October 21 forcing
Columbus to let the federal government implement their policy
changes
in the city's police department, which would include training and
staffing reforms as well as new disciplinary and reporting
procedures.
The suit was apparently the culmination of a two-year investigation.

What's worse is that the city of Columbus and DOJ were
negotiating for
more than a year about the proposed consent decree, more or less
behind closed doors, and the FOP was barred from attending or
commenting on those proceedings. Just this past summer, the
police
union and its officer-members were notified that the federal takeover
of the department was underway.

Further proof of the Justice Department's arrogant and dismissive
attitude toward officers' participation in determining their own fate,
is in the request made by DOJ to the presiding court to postpone
deliberation on the suit until December 20, 1999. Police observers
believe that date was selected as a blatant move to deny officers a
role in the court proceedings since it comes one week after the
expiration of the FOP contract with the city of

Columbus, and therefore the union maybe precluded from having a
say in
the matter.

Nonetheless, officers in Columbus are demanding to be heard.
Shortly
after the DOJ filed suit against the city (when the city failed to
concede), the FOP filed a 19-page motion asking U.S. Judge John
D.
Holschuh to include the organization as a defendant in the DOJ
lawsuit. FOP President Capretta claimed in the motion that the
union
is best able to defend itself and rank-and-file officers against the
federal claims and protect their reputations, because the city has
its
own separate interests to look out

for.

To Be Continued...

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Re: [CTRL] About Huxley

2000-03-18 Thread Yardbird

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Of course you could go back to Plato's "Republic" and Thomas More's
"Utopia" both of which discuss selective breeding. It's a theme that seems
to be inherent in philosophical thought - I'm not sure if philosopher have
popularized the theme in other disciplines or vice-versa.

Jamieson

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 Listers:

 If you haven't read A. Huxley's *A Brave New World,* (1932) you may want to
 get this one soon, don't know how I missed this thing way back when, in terms
 of having read it.  It discusses specializied breeding farms where humans are
 designed and mind control programmed into Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, etc.
 caste systems -- where everyone has particular biases and proclivities which
 are assigned them.  This follows of course C.D. Hammond's MK ultra govt mind
 control programming schemes -- using the Greek system to identify these
 personalities...Huxley was a a designer baby...extremely handsome
 Greek-looking guy.  The book is a big bro delight -- very very very intensive
 Golden Dawn, Crowley-influenced futurisitic study of the U.S.

 I did not realize the extent to which Huxley did this manuscript, or how well
 it pivots into mind control history of U.S.  Every victim of mc problems must
 read this book..

 Judith

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Re: [CTRL] About Huxley

2000-03-18 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Judith:

Is it true that Huxley was a member of the Committee of 300?


Thank you,


Don Huffman
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Re: [CTRL] About Huxley

2000-03-18 Thread Foxter



And did he know Alestair 
Crowley?


Dear Judith:Is it true that Huxley was a member of the Committee of 
300? 
Thank 
you, 
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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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Don, there`s a book called "The Creature From Jekyl Island" That`s all
about the Federal Reserve, it`s creation, and the stock  stockholders. I
haven`t read it but I`ve heard It`s very well done and easy to read. To
paraphrase someone, and educated public is the greatest threat to
tyrany.  Best wishes,
Jeff

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CLINTON WAS ACQUITTED 62 CENTS AGO

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Dear Nakano:

Is it true that as an exporter of petroleum, the USA is a member of
OPEC?


Very truly 
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Re: [CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.

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US indirectly supported the KR



How about through China? You have anything on that?

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CLINTON WAS ACQUITTED 62 CENTS AGO

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At 06:32 PM 3/18/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The International Oil Cartel loves to blame OPEC for
the rising prices.
Guess what?
The same people who own and control the Oil Companies
also own and control most of the so-call 'News Media"
in the United Statesthe same TV Networks and
Newspapers who are telling you: "It's OPEC's fault!"
 Regards to All
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Could you possibly name the names of some of those people
who exercise so much control over the Oil Companies
and the News Media.

Thanks.


DBC

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Re: [CTRL] popery dopery dock

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At 07:35 PM 3/13/00 -0800, Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I seem to recall a Rabbi on NPR wondering why JP2 apologized for
misdeeds of 500 years back [inquisition] but not for those of 55
years ago [holocaust].

Did the Rabbi on NPR offer to apologize for any of the misdeeds of
Jews back 500 years?

I didn't think so.

Did NPR ask the Rabbi if he would consider apologizing for the
misdeeds of Jews back 500 years?

I didn't think so.

DBC

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[CTRL] Lyndon Larouche was right! -Homer Simpson.

2000-03-18 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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 Well dirtbag distorter FWP NOT the brain, but THE HYPOCRIT !  First quit
 trying to kiss up to colleen you sleaziest of humanity.  Second, you reveal
 yourself as darkside while you wear the sheepskin of a born-again Christian.
 You would go and disparage Lyndon LaRouche without ever using his name or any
 fact to back your negative attack.

On August 1, 1994 I had a letter published in Junior's newspaper, The New
Federalist. Since Junior has published a book on "Christian Economics" I
asked him to tell us in BC what a model Christian City would be like as BC
is planning a new city built totally anew on a new site ("Bamberton"). For
a man who can tell the world how to plan its economy, this should be a
piece of cake. I was promised a reply, published after my letter. I am
still waiting with baited breath for this modest statement of "The
Renaissance Man".
FWP.
(CIA-Canadian Intelligence Agency).

http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm

 Again, FWP, I call to other SNET persons
 to also call for FWP's withdrawal from this list or dismissal from by SNET.
 Third, Lyndon LaRouche is running from the murderers of the NWO.  LaRouche
 always speaks out to us citizens about these NWOs, etc., that murder our
 leaders and control every aspect of our lives thru monetary control,
 propaganda, slavery, illicit drug control (production, transportation,
 distribution to selected victim groups, and sale), epidemics, pandemics,
 everything.   LaRouche goes out there and risks his life saying stuff that
 maybe only Alan Keyes would say.  The NWO evil doesn't like LaRouche but they
 love types like FWP and little fwp followers.  Yet FWP lurks there like a
 bloodsucking mosquito.  See the truth or it's messenger and suck his blood
 out and all those around him.  Go away Satan Man FWP!  Kermit the Frog

This "Great Satan" agrees with the FBI agent we met in Nebraska during the
"Franklin Coverup" investigation that Larouche is BOGUS. I just call 'em
as I see 'em...an honest umpire. If they didn't want that they shouldn't
have invited me to Nebraska. And say, Kermit, I have a few three dollar
bills here for you as well as a bargain on the Golden Gate Bridge. If you
like Junior, you'll LOVE Jim Jones, Heavens' Gate etc.
(CIA-Satanic Affairs Division).

 In a message dated 2/27/00 1:16:07 PM PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   If you think "Junior" is the answer, Pinky, we'll have to send you back
 to the lab for another round of genetic enhancement. FWP (The Brain). 

 On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Colleen Jones wrote:

 Hey this is best news I have had all year.sleeping lions and tigers and
 bears awaken maybe to defend US Constitution and take out the garbage in the
 White House?

 I am firm believer - Good Government Begins at Homenot at top, but at
 bottom for that is where it all beginsyou elect our representatives on a
 local leve up to the top...that handful of people at the top, answer to
 the people - the foundation of this country.

 So LaRouche, know not much of himcannot believe this article is true?
 Hope you are not kidding.

 Over 30 years ago I got up on a stage with a speech, and said "Good
 Government Begins At Home"..and I really believed itthen my kids got
 older and it looked like a lost cause  Just kidding.  colleen

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Re: [CTRL] Holy See ya! Vatican to get booted from U.N.?

2000-03-18 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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Gee, the Vatican certainly can`t be all bad if they`re  wanted out of
the UN. I only wish they wanted to throw the U.S. out of the UN. Hey, it
could happen if we tried hard enough!
Here`s hoping!

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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Don,
 The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin is available
from Amazon.com for $15.60

Also highly recommended is Secrets of the Federal Reserve
by Eustace Mullins for $15.  (hardback) available from Amazon

Mullins has probably done more to expose the FED than
anyone.  His book is extremely well-researched and
documented.

   Regards to All
  Nakano

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CLINTON WAS ACQUITTED 62 CENTS AGO

2000-03-18 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hello Don,
 The United States is not a member of OPEC.
Not all oil exporting countries are members.
For instance, Canada and Mexico are not members.
There are 11 member countries.
Algeria
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Kuwait
Libya
Nigeria
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Venuzuela

Regards to All
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[CTRL] Nanoconspiracy

2000-03-18 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Nanophobia (Fear of Nannies?)

From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Sister Wendy:
  Further to your interviews with Joy, Abella and
Rosica: can any of these "high priests of the high tech era" answer my
question at the VCN URL below?
FWP.

http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm

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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] [Robot-for-President] Re: The missing organic
molecules on Mars (fwd)

From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: [Robot-for-President] Re: The missing organic molecules on Mars

From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

They were devoured by Alien Nanoassemblers whose next destination is the
home of Bill Joy!
FWP.

http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm


On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Larry Klaes wrote:


 16 March 2000: The missing organic molecules on Mars (Abstract),
 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

 "GC-MS on the Viking 1976 Mars missions did not detect organic molecules
 on the Martian surface, even those expected from meteorite bombardment.
 This result suggested that the Martian regolith might hold a potent
 oxidant that converts all organic molecules to carbon dioxide rapidly
 relative to the rate at which they arrive.

 This conclusion is influencing the design of Mars missions. We reexamine
 this conclusion in light of what is known about the oxidation of organic
 compounds generally and the nature of organics likely to come to Mars
 via meteorite."

 http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/2425


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[CTRL] What is the committee of 300?

2000-03-18 Thread Tara

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I hate to seem out of the loop entirely, but what was/is the Committee of
300? I'd really like to know.

Tara
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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Jeff,

Thank you for the reference!

Don 
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[CTRL] 5/5/2000-The End???

2000-03-18 Thread William Shannon

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The End is Nigh -- Again: Scientists Say 'No Way' to Solar Tidal Doom

By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 01:22 pm EST
09 March 2000

Griffith Observatory has facts on the alignment

Planetary alignments in general from the National Solar Observat

The math of planetary alignments by Jean Meeus




Prepare for The End. Or at least get ready to hear a lot of people tell you
its coming again.

This time, a planetary alignment due May 5 is the purported culprit. The
compound effect of gravity would be the means. All manner of earthly
destruction would be the result.

In truth, the headline-grabbing event is poised to become this year's biggest
non-story -- unless you count Y2K. Recycled doomsayers hocking books, advice
and all-purpose survival gear, have a laundry list of scenarios by which
newest version of The End could play out.

Want proof that this kind of thing has happened before? What about those
woolly mammoths that died with grass still in their mouths!

The claims for what to expect May 5, which one astronomer called "a load of
crap," reflect the standard tabloid prophecies: severe weather will rewrite
Noah's adventures (haven't you noticed the weather’s been just plain
strange?); earthquakes will tumble our cities; the polar ice caps will melt;
even the sun might participate, hurling unbearable doses of radiation our way.

This much is true: At around 4:08 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time (8:08 GMT) on
May 5, Earth, the Moon, the sun and the five visible planets will all be
roughly aligned along an imaginary line in space. To be more accurate, the
heavenly bodies will be arrayed within a 26.5-degree angle, with Earth as its
center.





Some are calling it the Grand Alignment. Scientists term it a "massing" and
will pay the event little heed.

The rough alignment is no more than an astronomical curiosity, says Donald
Yeomans of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. The gravitational pull or "tidal
effect" that other planets have on Earth is, and will be, teensy.

"A baseball held at arms length has more tidal effect on you than Mars at its
closest," Yeomans said in a telephone interview. "It's absurd to think that
the alignment of a planet is going to have any significant tidal effect over
and above the moon and the sun."

So what will happen here on Earth?

"Nothing," Yeomans said.

Search the web, and you'll hear another story. You'll also find a handful of
books that either mention or focus on the alignment.

Pyramid scheme

Richard Noone, in his book 5/5/2000 Ice: The Ultimate Disaster? lumps all the
standard fears together, proposing that the effects of gravity will cause
polar ice to alter Earth's axis, initiating catastrophic floods and
earthquakes. Noone claims a similar event 6,000 years ago helped the ancient
Egyptians build the Great Pyramid.

John Mosley, an astronomer at the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles, calls
the book "an unorganized mish-mash." Writing for the International
Planetarium Society's journal, Mosley says Noone's scenario is
"extraordinarily shy on details."

"Noone's arguments and his thick book will appeal to the New-Agers for whom
all bizarre ideas are inter-related and who need nothing more than a
planetary alignment foreseen by the builders of the Great Pyramid to raise
the alarm of impending cosmic doom," Mosley says.

The lack of details will set you back $16. Fright included.

Apparently, people are starting to hear folks like Noone, as calls are
dribbling into planetariums around the world.

At the Fels Planetarium in Philadelphia, astronomer Derrick Pitts said only a
few people have called so far, but he expects the pace to pick up as the
event draws nearer.

"It's too far out yet," Pitts said. "I think people are enjoying some time
off from the millennium scare."

What you can see

Pitts, who has a weekly astronomy program on WHYY radio, is trying to raise
awareness of the alignment. Why? Because in the weeks leading up to May 5,
starting now, sky gazers can watch the planets lining themselves up.

On April 6, for example, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter and the thin crescent Moon
will all share a small region of the sky. The show will be visible at 7 p.m.
local time at mid-northern latitudes.

But beyond skywatching opportunities early on, the May alignment is
insignificant to astronomers, who aren't planning any special studies (as
they often do during eclipses). And the actual event isn't even visible;
because the planets involved -- Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn --
will all be on the other side of the sun.

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[CTRL] Chelation Therapy-Another View

2000-03-18 Thread William Shannon

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Chelation Therapy:

Unproven Claims and Unsound Theories

Saul Green, Ph.D.

Chelation therapy is a series of intravenous infusions containing EDTA and
various other substances. Proponents claim chelation therapy is effective
against atherosclerosis and many other serious health problems. Its use is
widespread because patients have been led to believe that it is a valid
alternative to established medical interventions such as coronary bypass
surgery. However, there is no scientific evidence that this is so. It is also
used to treat nonexistent "lead poisoning," "mercury poisoning," and other
alleged toxic states that practitioners diagnose with tests on blood, urine,
and/or hair.

The proponents' viewpoints have been summarized in four books: The Chelation
Answer: How to Prevent Hardening of the Arteries and Rejuvenate Your
Cardiovascular System (1982), by Morton Walker, D.P.M., and Garry Gordon,
M.D.; Chelation Therapy: The Key to Unclogging Your Arteries (1985), by John
Parks Trowbridge, M.D., and Morton Walker D.P.M.; A Textbook on EDTA
Chelation Therapy (1989), by Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.; and Bypassing Bypass:
The New Technique of Chelation Therapy (2nd edition, 1990), by Elmer Cranton,
M.D., and Arline Brecher. The scientific jargon in these books may create the
false impression that chelation therapy for atherosclerosis, and a host of
other conditions, is scientifically sound. The authors allege that between
300,000 and 500,000 patients have safely benefited. However, their evidence
consists of anecdotes, testimonials, and poorly designed experiments.

This article identifies the major claims made for chelation and examines each
in light of established scientific fact. The sources used for this review
included position papers of professional societies, technical textbooks,
research and review articles, newspaper articles, patient testimonials,
medical records, legal depositions, transcripts of court testimony, privately
published books, clinic brochures, and personal correspondence.

Early History

The term chelate, from the Greek chele for claw, refers to the "claw-like"
structure of the organic chemical ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA),
first synthesized in Germany in the 1930s. With this claw, EDTA binds di- and
trivalent metallic ions to form a stable ring structure. EDTA is
water-soluble and chelates only metallic ions that are dissolved in water. At
pH 7.4 (the normal pH of blood) the strength with which EDTA binds dissolved
metals, in decreasing order, is: iron+++ (ferric ion), mercury++, copper++,
aluminum+++, nickel++, lead++, cobalt++, zinc++, iron++ (ferrous ion),
cadmium++, manganese++, magnesium++, and calcium++.

Mercury, lead, and cadmium cannot be metabolized by the body and, if
accumulated, can cause toxic effects by interfering with various
physiological functions. These substances are called "heavy metals," a term
applied to metallic elements whose specific gravity is about 5.0 or greater,
especially those that are poisonous. Except for aluminum, the other elements
listed in the previous paragraph are essential nutrients that are needed for
normal metabolic activity.

After EDTA was found effective in chelating and removing toxic metals from
the blood, some scientists postulated that hardened arteries could be
softened if the calcium in their walls was removed. The first indication that
EDTA treatment might benefit patients with atherosclerosis came from Clarke,
Clarke, and Mosher, who, in 1956, reported that patients with occlusive
peripheral vascular disease said they felt better after treatment with EDTA
[1]

In 1960, Meltzer et al., who had studied ten patients with angina pectoris,
reported that there was no objective evidence of improvement in any of them
that could be ascribed to the course of EDTA chelation treatment. However,
during the next two months, most of the patients began reporting unusual
improvement in their symptoms. Prompted by these results, Kitchell et al.
studied the effects of chelation on 28 additional patients and reappraised
the course of the ten patients used in the original trial [2]. They found
that although 25 of the 38 patients had exhibited improved anginal patterns
and half had shown improvement in electrocardiographic patterns several
months after the treatment had begun, these effects were not lasting. At the
time of the report, 12 of the 38 had died and only 15 reported feeling
better. (This "improvement" was not significant, however, because it was no
better than would be expected with proven methods and because there was no
control group for comparison.) Kitchell et al. concluded that EDTA chelation,
as used in this study, was "not a useful clinical tool in the treatment of
coronary disease."

The "Approved" Protocol

The primary organization promoting chelation therapy is the American College
for Advancement in Medicine (ACAM), which was founded in 1973 as the American

Re: [CTRL] [MC] About Huxley

2000-03-18 Thread Jabr 333

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/A -Cui Bono?-

No, no book by this name appears in the bibliography I have.  BUT what does
appear is close to this title and VERY VERY Golden Dawn-ish/Egyptian stuff --
like "The Genius and Goddess", "Crome Yellow", "Heaven and Hell", "The Devils
of Loudun," "The Olive Tree", "Do What You Will" (like a direct Crowley
quote), "Proper Studies", "Along the Road", (sounds like Keroac), "The
Cicadas" (strange one to me), "The World of Light", "The Art of Seeing" --
and a host of others, these titles are drawn from novels, essays, short
stories, poetry (not much there), and other selected works.  Huxley was a
homosexual is my take -- and one of the earliest to describe specialized govt
eugenics breeding farms which really MAY exist these days, given all the
"pretty" babies in our midst who do not look like parents.  How many gay men
look like they are designer genes and how many pretty model women look like
they are designer gene'd?  A lot, a lot a lot a lot.  So WHO is doing what
here?  Obviously we have specialized baby breeder story being kept VERY
quietly under Uncle Sam's sheets..how many are clones is another question --
because some probably are.  And where Huxley came from is another important
puzzle piece.  You just can't imagine guys like him in 1930s necessarily,
unless you consider FS Fitzgeraldand crewsYEAH, the U.S. has been
dealing in designer babies since Detroit's Ford (i.e. car) dynasty...(1900s).

Judith


In a message dated 3/18/00 5:21:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Subj:Re: [MC]  About Huxley
 Date:  3/18/00 5:21:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
 From:  X
 To:Jabr333

 Didn't Huxley also author The Gates of Hell? Someone recommended it to us
but the hope was that you might have some inside information on that
particular book.

 XXX


 In a message dated 3/18/00 2:46:58 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  Subj:[MC]  About Huxley
  Date: 3/18/00 2:46:58 PM Central Standard Time
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Listers:

  If you haven't read A. Huxley's *A Brave New World,* (1932) you may want to
  get this one soon, don't know how I missed this thing way back when, in
terms
  of having read it.  It discusses specializied breeding farms where humans
are
  designed and mind control programmed into Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, etc.
  caste systems -- where everyone has particular biases and proclivities
which
  are assigned them.  This follows of course C.D. Hammond's MK ultra govt
mind
  control programming schemes -- using the Greek system to identify these
  personalities...Huxley was a a designer baby...extremely handsome
  Greek-looking guy.  The book is a big bro delight -- very very very
intensive
  Golden Dawn, Crowley-influenced futurisitic study of the U.S.

  I did not realize the extent to which Huxley did this manuscript, or how
well
  it pivots into mind control history of U.S.  Every victim of mc problems
must
  r 

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Re: [CTRL] FEDERAL RE$ERVE NWO

2000-03-18 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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Glad to help, next time, maybe you should ask Nakano. That guy is
Amazing!

http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture
http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins

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Re: [CTRL] [MC] About Huxley

2000-03-18 Thread Jabr 333

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Well -- about being naive about this dude -- obviously for decades this book
escaped my grasp actually -- I knew about it, but I thought Orwell pre-dated
this thing.  And Orwell does NOT.  I just categorized this thing into
dated...so never considered it a priority.  But, wow.  What a surprise this
thing was for me and the cover of it really usurped my thinking -- and I
reiterate here -- this and possibly other materials he wrote really need to
be FAR more important in mc victim's thinking...even the titles are so
contemporary I sort of jump at em.  Like "Crome Yellow" -- rather about 30
years prior to contemporary art movements -- Huxley was comin out with stuff
probably major grain WAY back.  All the titles entice me greatly.  And this
book is really takin up my time here now...the mc programmin schemes in it
must draw victims as CD Hammond's The Greenbaum Speech (1992) also must draw
them.  Judith



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 Somebody ought to clue Judith in on the role of Aldous Huxley and his family
 in contemporary scientific and social history. Also, Huxley's explorations
 through "The Doors of Perception," and his experimentation with
 hallucinogenic drugs, which he used as the basis for his depiction of "soma"
 in Brave New World. Huxley's grandpa, pappy and other relatives were major
 figures in "globalist" history and bio-sciences.
 It is astonishing that somebody so deeply involved in considering the
 provinces of the mind and potentials for mind-influences by political
 agencies  would not already be well aware of Huxley and Brave New World. On
 the other hand, maybe not so much.
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[CTRL] Officials Rally Behind New Code: Seek to Make Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Smith Wesson Guns

2000-03-18 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Does this ban law suits by private citizens as well?



Officials Rally Behind New Code
Seek to Make Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Smith  Wesson Guns


By Brigitte Greenberg
The Associated Press
W A S H I N G T O N, March 18 — The Department of Housing and Urban
Development and the mayors of Atlanta, Detroit and Miami moved today to see
that their law enforcement agencies give preference to Smith  Wesson when
buying guns and called on others to follow suit.
 The preference would apply to “any gun makers that adopt a new code of
responsible conduct,” but — for the time being at least — that means Smith 
Wesson.
 The company signed an unprecedented agreement with the Clinton
administration on Friday to, among other things, include safety locks with
all of its handguns to make them more childproof.
 In return, the agreement calls for federal, state and city lawsuits
against the gun maker to be dropped and says no new suits will be filed
seeking to hold them responsible for shootings committed with their guns.
 “Any company that signs this agreement deserves our support and our
business for acting responsibly,” HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo said. “It would
be near lunacy to patronize a company more likely to be providing criminals
guns when you are in the business of hiring police officers to fight the
criminals.”
 Cuomo acknowledged that the nation’s 3,200 public housing authorities
are directly responsible for security and gun purchases and that his
proposed regulation, which will have to undergo a lenghty period of public
comment and congressional oversight, could be implemented only by
threatening to withhold federal funds.
 The proposal would encourage local housing authorities to apply the
same requirement to private subcontractors that provide security under
government contracts.
 Cuomo noted that mayors and other local officials have more direct
authority over gun purchases of the law enforcement agencies under their
direction than he does over housing project guards.
 Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell, Detroit Mayor Dennis Archer and Miami-Dade
County Mayor Alex Penales joined Cuomo in urging local governments around
the country to take similar steps and said they would act directly in their
own jurisdictions.
Good Business for SW
Smith  Wesson spokesman Ken Jorgensen said he was pleasantly surprised by
the announcement.
 “I would have to say it’s good news for Smith  Wesson. It certainly
wasn’t part of anything that was discussed as part of the agreement,” he
said.
 It was not immediately clear how much business the initiative would
generate for Smith  Wesson, but Cuomo said that approximately one-third of
gun purchases in this country are made by federal, state and local law
enforcement each year—from a variety of manufacturers.
 Smith  Wesson does not release annual sales figures, whether to
private buyers or government agencies, Jorgensen said.
 There was no “quid pro quo” giving Smith  Wesson the government’s
business in exchange for the company’s cooperation, HUD officials said.
 “If another manufacturer adopts the code tomorrow, that manufacturer
will get the same preference,” said HUD spokesman David Egner.
 But Cuomo said the move could bring large market pressures to bear
Smith  Wesson’s competitors.
 “You could say that it is an incentive,” he said.

Other Gunmakers Can Bid
The initiatives would not require agencies to immediately replace all of
their guns with Smith  Wesson products, but rather from this point forward
to purchase them from gun makers that adopt the new code.
 A spokesman for Archer said Detroit’s competitive bidding process
dictates that Smith  Wesson cannot be mentioned by name, but it can be
administered in a way that only Smith  Wesson, or any other gun maker that
agrees to the Clinton administration’s terms, can actually bid.
 “It’s not a hard thing to do,” said spokesman Gregory Bowens. “By doing
so, we would try to make them the gun maker of choice for Detroit’s law enfo
rcement agencies.”
 Bowen said he could not estimate how much money the city spends on
handguns for its police department, but said, “We have several classes of
new police officers every year, and each one of those officers needs a
handgun.”
 Under the agreement, Smith  Wesson will install external locks within
60 days, with internal locks to be installed within two years.
 The company also agreed to a “code of conduct” for selling and
distributing handguns that prohibits the marketing of weapons in a way that
appeals to juveniles or criminals, and Smith  Wesson will devote 2 percent
of firearms revenues every year to developing “smart” technology that limits
a gun’s use to its rightful owner.



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[CTRL] [NA] Investigator Crashes Sacramento County Vote Counting Process!

2000-03-18 Thread lloyd

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..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NA] Investigator Crashes Sacramento County Vote Counting Process!
Date: Saturday, March 11, 2000 5:15 AM

www.networkamerica.org

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
March 11, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire

Investigator Crashes Sacramento County Vote Counting Process!

I hadn’t mentioned it yet on this e-wire, but the kind editor, Mr.
Schantz, of the internet newspaper, The Lewis News, at www.lewisnews.com
has instituted a “Citizens for a Vote Count” section in his internet
newspaper.

To my pleasant surprise, while posting my second article, I saw that
another columnist had contributed at excellent article. It is not only
excellent, but EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY important. Why? Because this
intrepid gentleman, Jon Roland, pioneered the way for what needs to be
done in every one of the 3000+ counties as fast as possible.

He went to the vote counting center of Sacramento, County and videotaped
the vote counting on March 7, 2000 – Super Tuesday.

I hope to post this on our website soon in the section on counties. So,
when people go the proper section in the left hand column at
www.networkamerica.org and then go to California, and then go to
Sacramento County, they will see Mr. Roland’s report along with other
relevant information as it develops.

If we could do this quickly, and have 3075 teams of citizen
investigators go to the vote counting centers on election day, November
2000 in their respective county, then we could post reports for all the
counties.

This would demonstrate a pattern of depriving citizens of their right to
an honest and verifiable election in the vote counting processes of
almost all the counties – which would set the stage for mass pressure in
many counties and states at once for a return to honest elections.

As they say in the vernacular – this is hot! What follows is Mr.
Roland’s report unedited. This is “real” TV! This is REAL investigative
reporting – the kind that Geraldo, Rather, Paula Zahn, and Bill Press
are NOT allowed to do.

I might add before getting to Mr. Roland’s complete and unaltered report
– that the late James and Kenneth Collier were pressured out of the
Hamilton County Board of Elections in 1985 on that November election
night, even though they had a court order obtained by my father, James
J. Condit Sr. The court order authorized them and us to “observe all
phases of the election process.” On the spot, Judge Niehaus, who had
issued the court order, “ruled” under pressure from the head of the
Democratic and Republican party chiefs, that “observing” did not include
allowing the video camera to observe. Even so, before the Colliers were
tossed out, they, like Mr. Roland, captured about 20 women on film
pulling votes out of ballots with household tweezers. (This one feature
of this crooked punch card system, which is also used in Cincinnati and
much of the nation, would be more than enough reason to trash such a
system of our election officials cared a whit for honesty and public
justice.)

So, in light of the experience that I had with Jim and Ken Collier in
1985, what Mr. Roland accomplished here is quite remarkable to me.

Potential for Vote Fraud Great

Posted on: 3/8/00 3:19:22 AM - Sacramento, California, March 7, 2000 –


This is a preliminary report of an on site investigation of the election
process in Sacramento County, California, during the combined election,
primary, and initiative referendum conducted March 7, 2000, seeking
vulnerabilities to vote fraud.

Although no evidence of specific vote fraud has been found thus far, the
process was observed to be highly vulnerable. This report will analyze
the vulnerabilities and suggest measures to protect the integrity of the
election process.

Sacramento County, like most counties in California and across the
country, uses punch card ballots. The voter receives a ballot card,
which he places in the holder, over which are several tabs which, when
turned, expose a column of perforated circles, beside numbers on each
tab, and he receives a voter booklet which shows the alternatives
represented by each number.

He is provided a punch, like a short ice pick, to drive through the
holes in the holder, which punch out the perforated circle to produce a
hole in the ballot. He then places the ballot in a ballot box and
receives a numbered tab torn off the ballot as a receipt.

My task was to examine what happens to the ballots after they are
deposited in the box. I called the Voter Registration and Elections
office at 916/875-6451, and asked where to go to observe the vote count.
The person who answered referred me to her 

[CTRL] FAX TO GOLDIN and others

2000-03-18 Thread Steve Wingate

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--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date sent:  Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:05:04 -0800
From:   David Jinks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[M-TRAC - MSAA] FAX TO GOLDIN and others
To: cy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Remember those pictures of Cydonia we got in April of 1998? Well, it's
time to get more. It may be pitiful, but our power to annoy the hell out
of these fax recipients is the biggest weapon we have. I urge everyone
who hasn't already done so to fax them NOW. We've got five days to force
Dr. Malin to take more images. Feel free to copy this letter and
substitute your name if you want to. The volume of the faxing is more
important than what the fax actually says, since we know they stop
reading after they see the word "Cydonia" anyway!

=

ATTN:  Dan Goldin, Administrator, NASA 202-358-2810
Senator John McCain, 202-228-2862
 Ted Koppel, ABC 202-222-7976
Ted Koppel, ABC 202-222-7680
 CNN 404-681-3578
 White House 202-456-2461
 Pat Buchanan 703-734-2705

Dear Dr. Goldin,

We are writing to express our deep interest in research conducted by
investigators Dr. Tom Van Flandern, Stanley McDaniel, Dr. Horace Crater,
Dr. Mark Carlotto and others. Each of these extremely serious scientists
has produced very compelling, if controversial, evidence that several
features in the Cydonia region of Mars may be of artificial origin.

On March 22, 2000, the Mars Global Surveyor will pass over Cydonia once
again. Given this prime opportunity to put the controversy to rest once
and for all at minimum expense to taxpayers, WE DEMAND THAT NASA
RE-IMAGE THE REGION, IN FULL RESOLUTION, WITH IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF THE
SCIENTIFIC RESULTS VIA THE WORLD WIDE WEB. No other alternative is
acceptable.

Dr. Goldin, as a public servant, you have the power to effect a serious
change in the way the public views this information. As a taxpayer
supporting the space agency's activities, we demand a higher level of
science and professionalism regarding the very important question of
artifacts on Mars.

We urge you to do everything in your power to 1) direct the space agency
to focus its efforts on obtaining more images of the Cydonia region on
March 22 and during the remainder of Mars Global Surveyor's mapping
mission, and 2) to initiate a national dialogue on the possibility of
artifacts at Cydonia.

Rest assured that there are thousands upon thousands of us who are ready
and willing to support you in all your future efforts regarding these
important subjects, if you will only answer the challenge.

Sincerely,

David Jinks, MBA
Dr. Paula Sommerville

--- End of forwarded message ---

"I have it on excellent authority that JPL wants no major discoveries on
Mars because they oppose manned landings. They want to keep it an
academic exercise," Brandenburg charges. "Mars needs to be turned over
to Johnson Space Center in Houston."

 -- plasma physicist John Brandenburg

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CLINTON WAS ACQUITTED 62 CENTS AGO

2000-03-18 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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In a message dated 03/18/2000 6:56:41 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Could you possibly name the names of some of those people
 who exercise so much control over the Oil Companies
 and the News Media.
  Thanks.
   DBC 
___

Hello Damian,
   Your question appears to be so simple, and one
for which there should be a simple answer.
   "name the names of some of those people..."
It is not so easy as this.

Perhaps you will discern something about the
truth from the words of a man who helped to
give birth to this reality.

Consider these words of President Woodrow Wilson,
who in the dark of night signed the Federal Reserve Act into law.
In the last days of his life, a repentant Wilson wrote the truth
about who and what controls America.

  " I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is
controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated.
The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands
of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most
completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world.
No longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction
and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a
small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson

I hope you did not read over that lightly.
Notice he said:  "...all our activities are in the hands of a few men."


Eustace Mullins in his thoroughly researched books,
Secrets of The Federal Reserve, and
The World Order, Our Secret Rulers -
gives detailed information about "interlocking Directorships".
There are about 12 pages of charts which show the links
of control which connect about the top 500 world corporations.
Mullins didn't dream up this information.  It was taken
directly from actual Charts which were created by a
Congressional Committee which conducted an investigation
into this area.  As one looks at the names of the companies
on those charts, the reality of the power of "The Controllers"
becomes apparent.
It is much more than just the control of multi-national oil companies
and the major information media.

Please notice I do not ask you to accept my opinion
or to take my word for any of this.

Another authoritative source of information is a man who
had the rare opportunity to have direct "inside knowledge"
of the workings and methods of "the Controllers".
This man was a mentor to Bill Clinton.
After being nominated for President, in his acceptance speech,
Clinton mentioned his Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley
as having helped him form his political philosophy and world view.
Professor Quigley wrote a 1,300 page book entitled "Tragedy and Hope".
In his book, Quigley wrote quite openly about the methods and plans
of the "Controllers".

   "...to create a world system of financial control in private hands
able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy
of the world as a whole.  This system was to be controlled in a feudalist
fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret
agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.
The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in
Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s
central banks which were themselves private corporations.
Each central banksought to dominate its government by its ability to
control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the
levels of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative
politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
This vast accumulation of wealth concentrates immense power and despotic
economic domination in the hands of the few central bankers "who are able to
govern credit and its allotment, for this reason supplying, so to speak, the
life-blood to the entire economic body, and grasping, as it were, in their
hands the very soul of the economy so that no one dare breathe against their
will."
 Carroll Quigley-

But finally Damian, you should look to find the answer for yourself.
I would urge you to question and question again...and not to
accept mine or anyone's answers.
The following addresses are good places to begin looking:
http://www.hevanet.com/valladar/secrets.htm
http://www.midnight-emissary.com/mullins.htm
http://www.hevanet.com/valladar/order.htm
  Regards to All
  Nakano

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[CTRL] 2,000 rally to support Louisville police

2000-03-18 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2000/0003/18/000318cops.html

2,000 rally to support Louisville police, ex-chief
Sherrard doesn't attend, sends letter

By JAMES ZAMBROSKI and CHRIS POYNTER, The
Courier-Journal

Louisville police and their supporters
-- some 2,000 strong -- rallied
outside City Hall yesterday to
denounce the mayor, support their
fired chief and call for the city to
unite behind them.

It was Louisville's largest
demonstration since a massive
anti-busing protest in 1975.

Carrying placards that called for
Mayor Dave Armstrong's resignation
and wearing T-shirts emblazoned
with "Armstrong's Wrong," the
crowd led by members of the
Fraternal Order of Police chanted
and cheered in Jefferson Square as the mayor worked
inside his office just across Sixth Street.

But the officers and their supporters didn't show the level
of outrage expressed when former Chief Gene Sherrard
led a smaller march to the steps of City Hall two weeks
ago, the day after he was fired. He did not attend
yesterday's rally.

"A common theme brought us together," Louisville FOP
President Rick McCubbin said as he addressed the rally. "I
salute each of you who have chosen to stand beside our
law enforcement officers. . . . We disagree with the
decision and we collectively say 'Armstrong's wrong.' "

Although McCubbin claimed that "the support of the
community is with law enforcement in Louisville," few of
the people joining the FOP protest were African
Americans. Nearly a third of Louisville's population is
black.

Officer David James, FOP vice president and an African
American, said some minorities felt peer pressure not to
attend.

"I think because of the media hype -- it always shows
African Americans not agreeing about what's going on --
and a general lack of truthfulness (by the media)," he
said.

In addition to a large number of police officers, the crowd
included many family members -- including some who
labeled themselves "SAD, Spouses Against Dave."

ARMSTRONG FIRED Sherrard
after the former chief approved
awards of valor for two white
officers who fatally shot Desmond
Rudolph last May while he was in
a stolen vehicle, trying to flee.
Rudolph was black and the
shooting outraged the
African-American community. The
two officers, Chris Horn and Paul
Kinkade, returned their awards to
the mayor Thursday, citing a
desire to "be part of the healing
process."

Yesterday, three more officers
followed Horn and Kinkade's lead.

Officers D'Shawn Johnson and Tommy Blair and Sgt.
Rodney Estes came forward and rejected the Medal of
Honor each was awarded during the annual police awards
banquet March 1. Only five others have received the
Medal of Honor, the highest award a Louisville officer can
receive, in the department's history.

"My father always said, 'Stand for what you believe in.'
We believe in Chief Sherrard," Johnson said as the three
removed their medals and gave them to McCubbin as the
crowd cheered. After the rally, Blair could not be reached
and Estes declined to comment.

Armstrong fired Sherrard March 2, saying he had violated
his trust. The chief did not inform the mayor that Horn
and Kinkade were receiving awards until two days before
the banquet. Armstrong said he was also concerned that
Sherrard did not recognize the community outrage that
the awards would provoke.

Horn and Kinkade said they shot Rudolph because they
feared he was about to free the stolen Chevrolet Blazer,
which had become mired in an alley, and run them down.

A grand jury cleared the two officers of criminal
wrongdoing, but questioned police tactics. An investigation
by Col. Ron Ricucci, the city's public safety director, also
found fault with police methods and the follow-up
investigation of Rudolph's death.

THE EPISODE drove a deep wedge into the city. And that
friction showed in yesterday's march from FOP
headquarters in Old Louisville to Jefferson Square
downtown. "Police Protect the City While Mayor Destroys
It" and "The Only Segment of the Community LPD Targets
is Armstrong" were among the signs police and their
supporters carried. Another read, "Indiana officers support
L.P.D."

National FOP President Gilbert Gallegos, of Albuquerque,
N.M., was among the national FOP officers who
participated.

"Mr. Mayor, shame on you," Gallegos said. "Shame on
you for accusing the Louisville police department of being
racist, for being brutal and for taking away their leader.
Shame on you for trying to divide this community."

He was referring to a March 10 article in The New 

[CTRL] Activists restage police shooting

2000-03-18 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2000/0003/18/000318des.html

THE RE-ENACTMENT

Activists restage police shooting of
Rudolph at the scene
Witnesses describe events for black police
association

By SHANNON TANGONAN, The Courier-Journal

Civil-rights activists staged a re-enactment of the shooting
of Desmond Rudolph yesterday in the alley where the
event occurred, saying they are still searching for the
truth.

With the Rev. Louis Coleman at the wheel of his sport
utility vehicle and others portraying police officers,
witnesses to Rudolph's shooting led reporters, Rudolph
family members and onlookers from the back of 3607 Del
Park Terrace through the alley behind the house.

Members of the National Black Police Association, who
attended the re-enactment, criticized police conduct and
said they would take up the matter with the U.S. Justice
Department.

"The evidence clearly shows that this young man was
unjustifiably killed," said Doris Byrd, chairwoman of the
National Black Police Association. "There was no reason
for his young life to have been taken."

On May 13, Rudolph was driving a stolen Chevrolet Blazer
and was attempting to flee from Louisville police officers
when the vehicle struck a pole and became wedged
against some stumps. Officers Chris Horn and Paul
Kinkade fired 22 rounds into the truck, hitting him at least
10 times.

Byrd, who is a sergeant with the Chicago Police
Department, said officers made a series of errors. She
criticized the officers for failing to secure the stolen vehicle
and for not taking cover if they felt their lives were in
danger.

Sgt. Rodney Estes, a Louisville police spokesman, said he
didn't see the re-enactment and that "everyone is entitled
to their opinion."

Louisville Public Safety Director Ron Ricucci issued a
report last month that said several tactical and
investigative errors were made. But no officer is expected
to be suspended or fired when an internal investigation is
completed, Ricucci said.

Quinesha Rudolph, 25, Desmond Rudolph's cousin,
attended the re-enactment and said police could have
used different tactics.

"Police were wrong for killing him. . . . They need some
kind of punishment."

Joyce Whitten, who witnessed the shooting and took part
in the re-enactment, said the Blazer was stuck when
officers on the driver's side of the vehicle shouted for
Rudolph to "get out" and then started shooting.

"The shots just rang out as if the vehicle was exploding,"
Whitten said.

Coleman said activists involved in the re-enactment
wanted the National Black Police Association's views of the
shooting. "We want the truth," he said.
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Re: [CTRL] What is the committee of 300?

2000-03-18 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hello Tara,

By far the best source of information I have seen about
this little known subject is a book entitled:
 Conspirator's Hierarchy: The Committee of 300
by Dr. John Coleman

From the Back Cover of the book:
Can you imagine an all powerful group, that knows no national boundaries,
above the laws of all countries, one that controls every aspect of politics,
religion, commerce and industry, banking, insurance, mining, the drug trade,
the petroleum industry, a group answerable to no one but its members?
To the vast majority of us, such a group would appear to be beyond the realms
of possibilities and capabilities of any given organization. If that is what
you believe, then you are in the majority. The... read more
/exec/obidos/ts/book-reviews/0922356572/002-2914889-2675453
About the Author
Dr Coleman,former MI-6 intelligence agent spent years in the study of this
group. Born in England, and in service in South Africa, and in intelligence
research for England.
The publisher, America West Publishers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) , February 20,
1999

The book is available from Amazon.com for $16.95
It's certainly worth reading.

 I hope this is helpful to you.
 Regards,
   Nakano

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[CTRL] Oil is well with Bush

2000-03-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:alt.conspiracy
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  Oil is well with Bush


  By Tom Flocco
  © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

  Given the continuing heating oil cost crisis in
  the Northeast and rising gasoline prices
  throughout the country coupled with the
  reported role Kuwait is playing in that process,
  a report by the Chinese Xinhua News Agency
  that former President Bush visited Kuwait just
  seven weeks ago notches a few rungs higher on
  the "curious" list. This second trip to Kuwait by
  Bush since his son's presidential aspirations
  became apparent should start to raise some
  eyebrows.

  For while private citizen Bush met with senior
  Kuwaiti officials according to Xinhua, there was
  no reporting about the content of the high-level
  discussions and the former president's January
  trip was quiet enough to escape notice by U.S.
  media. Given Kuwait's role in the high fuel
  prices, one wonders whether oil factored into
  the conversation.

  Many American families have faced real
  home-heating struggles resulting from oil prices
  having tripled since last year; but now the
  public is poised for another financial assault as
  gasoline prices have already surpassed 1991
  Gulf War levels with oil analysts projecting
  potential $2.00 per-gallon prices for regular gas
  by Memorial Day, if not sooner.

  As recently reported, American oil experts are
  complaining about Kuwait's strange leadership
  role in pushing the current round of higher oil,
  given the financial and human sacrifices
  Americans have made for Kuwait. Moreover,
  those with good memories will recount the role
  President George Bush played as prime mover
  of the coalition wherein American troops were
  sent off to save Kuwait from the Iraqi
  occupation. "That's gratitude for you," said one
  unidentified expert, quoted in the New York
  Times.

  Storm On The Horizon
  With good cause, the Clinton-Gore
  administration is worried that skyrocketing oil
  prices will cause a series of inflationary
  problems leading to higher interest rates by the
  Federal Reserve Board, a potential stock market
  collapse and millions of highly stressed
  American budgets -- right before the November
  election. In a March 2 interview with Fox News,
  former Energy Secretary James Schlessinger
  said, "oil inventories for summer need to be
  built now and we are not doing so. I think it
  could cause trouble (in November) for the party
  in office if this continues."

  Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., echoed these
  sentiments on CNN the same day, saying, "the
  economy is being thrown off-kilter. OPEC
  (Organization of Petroleum Exporting
  Countries) has dilly dallied and we're headed
  toward $2.00 gas by Memorial Day." However,
  an examination of news report dates and
  comment relating to Kuwait's primacy in
  driving oil higher through OPEC, along with
  Mr. Bush's visits to Kuwait and a number of
  other coincidences points to some unanswered
  political questions.

  Former President Bush is so popular in Kuwait
  that, according to Reuters reports, his picture
  hangs in offices and residential buildings are
  named after him, and it is common knowledge
  that Bush is Kuwait's favorite American -- so
  much so that the Kuwaiti sheikhs would likely
  do almost anything to repay him for leading the
  coalition in restoring the ruling class to its
  former royal trappings of power. The question
  

[CTRL] Feds Threaten To Take Over Ohio Police Department:

2000-03-18 Thread Bill Richer

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Feds Threaten To Take Over Ohio Police Department:
Could Your Town Be Next?

(The following is part of a special investigation by LEAA into the
ever-expanding role the Clinton/Gore Justice Department is taking in
controlling local law enforcement. Stay tuned for continued coverage of this
issue on a weekly basis. More information will also be published in the next
edition of LEAA's magazine, SHIELD. Additionally, LEAA is sharing information
with Calibre Press' Street Survival Newsline who are helping bring this
important news to law enforcement officers across the country)


A legal battle is now being waged in U.S. District Court in Columbus, Ohio,
pitting the legal weight and limitless financial resources of the U.S.
Justice Department against that town's right to control its own police
department. At stake is no less than the fate of local agencies everywhere to
control their own destinies versus an emerging pattern by the Clinton Justice
Department aimed at federalizing municipal police departments.

Unfortunately, Columbus isn't the first victim. Already federal takeovers of
departmental policy have occurred in Steubenville, Ohio, and in Pittsburgh,
Penn. The police administrators in these two cities were, more or less,
forced to sign consent decrees admitting their departments had participated
in a pattern of civil rights violations and therefore needed the federal
government to come in and run all future operations. What sets Columbus
apart, what makes them different from these other two cities which
acquiesced, is that this municipality has a contract with the local police
union and can't make a deal with the devil without approval of FOP members -
and thankfully they're fighting. The city's 30-year history of collective
bargaining with rank-and-file legally forbids the city from exposing its
officers to many of the changes demanded by the DOJ.

Therefore, since Columbus and the police union have decided not to sign the
consent decree, the Department of Justice has filed a lawsuit against the
city to recoup all federal grant money awarded over the years. Some would
call this extortion. Bill Capretta, president of the Capitol City Lodge No. 9
of the Fraternal Order of Police in Columbus, says the lawsuit is the "latest
step in a Justice Department campaign to impose federal (law enforcement)
standards on police departments nationwide."

Alleging a "pattern of civil rights abuses" by the Columbus police
department, DOJ attorneys filed their suit on October 21 forcing Columbus to
let the federal government implement their policy changes in the city's
police department, which would include training and staffing reforms as well
as new disciplinary and reporting procedures. The suit was apparently the
culmination of a two-year investigation.

What's worse is that the city of Columbus and DOJ were negotiating for more
than a year about the proposed consent decree, more or less behind closed
doors, and the FOP was barred from attending or commenting on those
proceedings. Just this past summer, the police union and its officer-members
were notified that the federal takeover of the department was underway.

Further proof of the Justice Department's arrogant and dismissive attitude
toward officers' participation in determining their own fate, is in the
request made by DOJ to the presiding court to postpone deliberation on the
suit until December 20, 1999. Police observers believe that date was selected
as a blatant move to deny officers a role in the court proceedings since it
comes one week after the expiration of the FOP contract with the city of
Columbus, and therefore the union maybe precluded from having a say in the
matter.

Nonetheless, officers in Columbus are demanding to be heard. Shortly after
the DOJ filed suit against the city (when the city failed to concede), the
FOP filed a 19-page motion asking U.S. Judge John D. Holschuh to include the
organization as a defendant in the DOJ lawsuit. FOP President Capretta
claimed in the motion that the union is best able to defend itself and
rank-and-file officers against the federal claims and protect their
reputations, because the city has its own separate interests to look out for.

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[CTRL] David Icke Vs. Sir Laurence

2000-03-18 Thread William Shannon

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IS THIS TRUE,
SIR LAURENCE?
New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes part in
human sacrifice rituals.

Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet.

by DAVID ICKE
Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when Arizona Wilder
claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, that Sir Laurence
Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon
Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who took part in Satanic human
sacrifice rituals she had witnessed.

Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been particularly
scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir Laurence Gardner has
been massively promoted by Roads and his magazine.

But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also
witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind
control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played
a major role.

Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien
Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of
the Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now
extensively documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age
of 14 in the early seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys".

He has never named names before, but has now chosen to talk to me about his
experience of Sir Laurence, who has gained fame in recent years on the New
Age and Holy Grail "circuit" for his books claiming that the Merovingian
bloodline is the bloodline of Jesus. His best known works are Bloodlines of
the Holy Grail and the Genesis of the Grail Kings: The Explosive Story of
Genetic Cloning and the Ancient Bloodline of Jesus.

I have most strongly contended in my own books and talks that this claim
about the bloodline of "Jesus" is a diversion from the fact that the "Holy
Grail" or Merovingian bloodline is a key reptilian bloodline from which vast
numbers of people in royal, political, economic, religious, and military
power today, genetically descend. It is the desire to maintain this reptilian
genetic structure which has led to the obsessive interbreeding for aeons to
the present day of the "elite" families.

Sir Laurence himself calls these "Holy Grail" bloodlines the "dragon"
bloodlines, but claims that this term derives from the use of crocodile fat
in the royal ceremonies of ancient Egypt. I would contend that the word
"dragon" has a much more fundamental meaning than that. These bloodlines,
which have invariably ended up in the positions of power since pre-history,
have a much more dominant reptilian genetic code which has resulted from
interbreeding thousands of years ago between a reptilian race (the "Serpent"
race of endless legend) and the mammal-dominated bloodlines which we call
"human".

Sir Laurence claims that the dragon bloodline, which he connects to the House
of Stewart, has the right to the British throne and indeed that these
bloodlines have the right to rule in general. According to him the senior
legitimate descendant in this line is HRH Prince Michael Stewart, Count of
Albany, although the background to this guy is being increasingly questioned
and there are claims that he has invented the title.

Sir Laurence also talks in positive terms about the drinking of menstrual
blood, or "Starfire", which, interestingly, was the Illuminati code name of
Arizona Wilder, the "Mother Goddess" who conducted sacrificial rituals for
the Illuminati in a mind-controlled state (See Revelations of a Mother
Goddess and The Biggest Secret). You can read at length what Sir Laurence is
claiming on this link: (Starfire Article)

In my view it is classic disinformation or what I call gin and tonic with a
twist. A great deal of truth, spun with the idea that these dragon bloodlines
are not literally reptilian and are, instead, the genetic stream of Jesus and
Mary Magdalene. In an article in Nexus Magazine, he acknowledges that ancient
legends said these lines were literally shape-shifting reptilians, but in an
obvious swipe at The Biggest Secret, he says that it is astonishing in these
more enlightened times that anyone can still believe it.

Sorry, Sir Laurence, the evidence will overwhelm you and is already beginning
to do so.

Laurence Gardner has quite a CV: Chancellor of the Royal Court of the Dragon
Sovereignty, which first emerged in Egypt in around 2,200BC and is now based
in Britain; Prior of the Celtic Church's Sacred Kindred of St Columba, and an
"internationally known sovereign and chivalric genealogist" Chevalier Labhran
de Saint Germain, "Presidential Attache to the European Council of Princes -
a constitutional advisory body established in 1946" formally attached to the
Noble Household Guard of the Royal House of Stewart, founded at St
German-enLaye in 1692, and is the Jacobite Historiographer Royal.

According to Arizona 

Re: [CTRL] Feds Threaten To Take Over Ohio Police Department:

2000-03-18 Thread Alamaine

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States' rights?

AER


 Feds Threaten To Take Over Ohio Police Department:
 Could Your Town Be Next?


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[CTRL] (Fwd) Oil

2000-03-18 Thread Alamaine

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Here's some data for all you spreadsheet/dbf fans.  It shows how much oil is
gained from generalised sources.  You can go to the source URL and find out
other interesting bits and bytes of information like jet fuel, heating oil,
nat'l gas and the like.  Just think though:  if some Middle Eastern nations
were denied a credible source of income for a while (check out the Reagan
years, 1980-88), things might be thought of a little differently.  Note that in
the Bush years (1989-1992), the Middle Easterners produced near enough DOUBLE
what they did the previous eight years -- near enough.

About a year and a half ago, I posted a brief rationalisation for the 'Gulf
War', portrayed in one single photograph of GHW Bush on what I recall was a
Kuwaiti oil derrick.  'Nuff said.  AER

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http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/petroleum_supply_
monthly/current/txt/table_s03.txt

Crude Oil Imports, 1973 - Present
(Thousand Barrels per Day)




Total/a/b Total
 Year/Month Arab OPECOther OPEC/a OPEC   Non-OPEC/a   Imports


1973 Average838 1,257 2,0951,149 3,244
1974 Average713 1,827 2,540  931 3,477
1975 Average  1,330 1,882 3,211  893 4,105
1976 Average  2,378 2,167 4,545  742 5,287
1977 Average  3,136 2,507 5,643  971 6,615
1978 Average  2,930 2,254 5,1841,172 6,356
1979 Average  3,002 2,110 5,1121,407 6,519
1980 Average  2,503 1,361 3,8641,399 5,263
1981 Average  1,774 1,149 2,9221,474 4,396
1982 Average736   998 1,7341,754 3,488
1983 Average533   944 1,4771,853 3,329
1984 Average634   878 1,5121,914 3,426
1985 Average300 1,012 1,3121,888 3,201
1986 Average854 1,259 2,1132,065 4,178
1987 Average965 1,435 2,4002,274 4,674
1988 Average  1,415 1,281 2,6962,411 5,107
1989 Average  1,794 1,582 3,3762,467 5,843
1990 Average  1,864 1,650 3,5142,381 5,894
1991 Average  1,754 1,622 3,3772,405 5,782
1992 Average  1,660 1,746 3,4062,676 6,083
1993 Average  1,661 2,026 3,6873,100 6,787
1994 Average  1,636 1,944 3,5803,483 7,063
1995 Average  1,505 1,835 3,3413,889 7,230
1996 Average  1,496 1,942 3,4384,070 7,508
1997 January  1,462 1,775 3,2374,255 7,492
 February 1,421 1,920 3,3414,093 7,434
 March1,506 1,904 3,4104,344 7,754
 April1,720 2,098 3,8184,169 7,987
 May  1,564 2,510 4,0734,579 8,653
 June 1,650 2,478 4,1284,631 8,759
 July 1,607 2,055 3,6624,515 8,178
 August   1,750 2,280 4,0304,591 8,621
 Septembe 1,839 2,329 4,1684,672 8,840
 October  1,812 2,323 4,1344,793 8,927
 November 1,704 2,141 3,8454,521 8,366
 December 1,649 1,795 3,4444,208 7,653
 Average  1,641 2,134 3,7754,450 8,225

1998 January  1,726 1,977 3,7034,636 8,339
 February 1,716 1,941 3,6574,388 8,045
 March1,920 2,205 4,1263,998 8,124
 April1,933 2,272 4,2054,780 8,985
 May  1,815 2,463 4,2784,709 8,987
 June 2,132 2,129 4,2614,533 8,795
 July 2,315 2,400 4,7164,791 9,507
 August   2,453 2,116 4,5694,607 9,177
 Septembe 2,308 1,749 4,057