[CTRL] (Fwd) NewsMax.com TRACKING LATEST POLLS
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:09:27 -0500 Subject: NewsMax.com TRACKING LATEST POLLS To: "Breaking News - NewsMax.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: NewsMax.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send reply to: NewsMax.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] NewsMax.com Breaking News October 26, 2000 NewsMax.com TRACKING LATEST POLLS EACH DAY UNTIL THE ELECTION CNN/USA Today/Gallup Presidential Preference (Oct. 22-24) Bush 48% Gore 43% Buchanan 1% Nader 3% Reuters/MSNBC/Zogby Daily Tracking (Oct. 22-25) Bush 43% Gore 45% Buchanan 1% Nader 4% Browne 1 Hagelin 1 ABC News Tracking (Oct. 22-24) Bush 48% Gore 46% Buchanan 1% Nader 3% Battleground 2000 Daily (Oct. 22-25) Bush 44% Gore 40% Buchanan 1% Nader 4% Portrait of America Tracking (Oct. 23-25) Bush 47% Gore 40% Buchanan 1% Nader 3% Browne 1% Phillips 1% Hagelin1% NewsWeek - likely voters (Oct. 18-20) Bush 48% Gore 41% NewsWeek - all registered voters (Oct. 18-20) Bush 42% Gore 45% CBS News /New York Times (Oct. 18-21) Bush 44% Gore 42% Buchanan 1% Nader 4% Fox News/Opinion Dynamics (Oct. 18-19) Bush 45% Gore 42% Buchanan - Nader 4% Washington Post Tracking (Oct. 22-24) Bush 47% Gore 45% Buchanan 1% Nader 3% ** Exposed - Clinton-Gore Ignored Terrorist Threat A Pentagon terrorism expert tells Congress he warned of possible terrorist attacks on U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf before the bombing of the USS Cole - but was ignored. And he predicts more attacks. The National Security Agency warned of terrorist attacks just before the Cole was bombed. Intelligence sources reveal a suicide plot to bomb a U.S. plane in Bahrain. However, Bush neglects Clinton-Gore security lapses as a campaign issue. Elsewhere in the Middle East, Israel and Palestinians hold talks. President Clinton says Arafat can end the bloodshed, and the U.S. warns Americans to avoid Israel. For all the complete stories, go to: http://www.NewsMax.com ADVERTISEMENTS LIVE LOCAL WEATHER A FREE TRIP TO VEGAS!! It now PAYS to keep an eye on the weather! Download and register your own weather bug today, know what your local weather, alerts, storm watches, local satellite, and INSTA-CAM shots from your town all from a single click of the mouse. Lets not forget the chance at a FREE TRIP TO LAS VEGAS! http://by.advertising.com/1/c/22985/8126// TO ADVERTISE** For information on advertising at NewsMax.com please contact: Jesse Josephson at NewsMax.com: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (561)686-9903 or Michael Putrino at Conrad Direct: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (201)567-3200 TO SUBSCRIBE** If this News Alert has been forwarded to you and you would like a subscription, please visit http://NewsMax.com/email.shtml Sign up for free e-mail alerts today! ** --- We'd like to thank you for subscribing to www.NewsMax.com e-mail alerts. You are currently subscribed to newsmax as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of forwarded message --- A<>E<>R Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust The libertarian therefore considers one of his prime educational tasks is to spread the demystification and desanctification of the State among its hapless subjects. His task is to demonstrate repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the "democratic" State has no clothes; that all governments subsist by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse of objective necessity. He strives to show that the existence of taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled. He seeks to show that the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded subjects.
[CTRL] (Fwd) Release: Prop. 36
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:39:16 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Release: Prop. 36 From: Libertarian Party Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org === For release: October 26, 2000 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Will California's Prop. 36 mark the beginning of the end of the Drug War? WASHINGTON, DC -- Should every one of the 458,131 Americans currently in prison for using drugs be set free so they can get mandatory drug treatment? Yes, say Libertarians -- because such a program would mark the beginning of the end of the failed War on Drugs. And California voters will have the opportunity to take the next big step in that direction in November when they vote on Proposition 36, an initiative that would require nonviolent drug offenders to be sentenced to treatment instead of prison. "Peaceful people who haven't harmed anybody except maybe themselves don't deserve to be locked in steel cages and have their lives destroyed," said Harry Browne, the Libertarian Party's presidential candidate. "That's why every nonviolent drug offender in California -- and every other state -- should be freed from prison and allowed to live their lives in peace." Under Proposition 36, people convicted of possessing or using controlled substances would be sentenced to probation and drug treatment rather than prison. The measure would reroute up to 36,000 people annually away from prison, saving California taxpayers about $750 million a year in incarceration costs. Arizona and New York have already implemented similar programs, Browne noted -- raising the possibility that the treatment-instead-of- prison option could become a nationwide trend. "California voters took matters into their own hands and put Proposition 36 on the ballot because politicians can't shake their addiction to the Drug War," he said. "It's more evidence that ordinary Americans want a drug peace -- not a drug war." Passage of Proposition 36, which is currently leading in the polls, may also pave the way for releasing drug offenders in other states as well, said Browne -- since 458,131 Americans nationwide are behind bars solely for using or selling drugs, according to a new study by the Justice Policy Institute in Washington, DC. "Every one of those 458,131 people deserve to be released immediately," he said. Here's why: * They are innocent of any real crime. "These 458,131 people are not serving time for murder, rape, robbery, assault, or a property crime," said Browne. "They have not harmed anyone except perhaps themselves. No purpose is served by imprisoning them and forcing taxpayers to pay their room and board." * Some are drug addicts who need medical attention. "Throwing drug addicts in jail makes about as much sense as throwing alcoholics in jail," said Browne. "Even a so-called compassionate conservative like George W. Bush should realize that these individuals won't get the professional help they need in prison. What's compassionate about dragging someone suffering from an addiction off to jail and destroying their lives?" * Some have simply committed a "youthful indiscretion." "Would Al Gore and George W. Bush be better men today if they had been sent to prison for 10 years for their youthful indiscretions?" asked Browne. "If not, how can they possibly justify condemning hundreds of thousands of young Americans to prison for making the same youthful mistakes they made?" Besides, said Browne, the vast majority of occasional drug users are normal, productive citizens whose personal lives should be out-of-bounds to politicians. "Most Americans targeted by the War on Drugs pose no more threat to society than the Americans targeted by the War on Alcohol earlier in this century," he said. "The only real combatants in the War on Drugs are politicians, who use it as an excuse to attack innocent people, loot the taxpayer, and pillage the Constitution." Although Libertarians support Proposition 36 as a move towards a more sensible drug policy, that doesn't mean the party supports government-mandated drug treatment, said Browne. "Libertarians don't think politicians should have the power to force people into drug, alcohol, or any other treatment for their own good," he said. "However, treatment is more humane than prison, so Proposition 36 is a step
[CTRL] Shill Nadir
-Caveat Lector- From }}Begin Behind the Headlines by Justin Raimondo Antiwar.com October 27, 2000 NADER SELLS OUT I had great hopes for Ralph Nader, really I did. Here is a man who denounces the two-party system as a snare and a delusion, and dares to attack the corporate domination of the electoral process. It looked, for a while at least, as if he would truly stake out his claim as America's insurgent populist, a Green David prepared to take on the corporate-mercantilist Goliath. But there is something a little strange about his "insurgent" campaign, ominous signs that many in the Green Party are caving in to the tremendous pressure from liberal Democrats to pack it in. The Greens, I'm afraid, are on the verge of turning yellow. GLORIA ON THE RUN Say what? what Nader a sell-out? How about all those radio ads being run by the National Abortion Rights Action League, and the League of Conservation Voters, the statement by former "Nader's Raiders" that he is helping to elect George W. Bush and the fulminations of NOW pleading with him to get out of the race? They've got Gloria Steinem running up and down the West Coast, lecturing soccer-moms from San Diego to Seattle on the absolute necessity of voting the straight Democratic Party line. This flurry of consternation and liberal hysteria is fun to watch: I love it how Gore's shills gush over Ralph as an admirable guy, a principled crusader for liberal values with a track record second to none and then try to tell us that it would be inadvisable to vote for such a man. Very convincing not! and very funny indeed. What is less than funny, however, is that it seems to be working. CELEBRITY BACKFIRE The high-profile "celebrities for Nader" campaign a group of Hollywood phonies and assorted limousine liberals, including Susan Sarandon, Phil Donahue, Tim Robbins, and the insufferable Michael Moore which has been the real moneybags behind the Green party presidential campaign has apparently backfired. Now that Nader is actually beginning to pose a direct threat to Gore's rapidly dwindling chance at the Oval Office, these dabblers in third party politics are getting nervous, and are pulling back. Greg MacArthur heir to the fortune behind the MacArthur Foundation, which gives out "genius" awards that have become the equivalent of the Academy Awards for politically correct academics and professional do-gooders explains to an Associated Press reporter the decision to pull $320,000 in ads in California's biggest newspapers this way: "California didn't appear to be 'the obvious slam-dunk that these other states were,' he said. . . . 'I still think Gore is going to win California, but if the perception is such that it's a tight race, then that's the wrong market for me to be advertising in." The latest polls show Bush only five points behind Gore in the Sunshine State and the decision to pull the ads came only hours after these numbers were announced. MacArthur says that the money will go, instead, to states like New York where the outcome of the presidential contest is more certain. NADER'S GAMBIT The Nader campaign has issued a rather huffy statement, disclaiming all connection with the decision to pull the ads and declaring that they intend to "fight for every vote." But since Nader could have presumably dissuaded his celebrity fan club from making such a blatantly pro-Gore move, or at least instructed them to frame their explanations in less obvious terms, the disclaimer rings a little hollow. What this underscores is that the Green Party, and the Nader campaign, do not represent an attempt to build a real third party in this country: This, of course, is not really news: Nader has himself stated on more than one occasion that he sees the Green Party as a way to drag the Democrats back to the Left. But the fraudulence of the Green campaign goes way beyond that. Aside from the unwillingness of the Greens (or their leadership) to challenge the Democratic party in key states, the Nader campaign is acting in concert with the Democrats to ensure a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY In California, the Greens have long played a subordinate role to the Democratic Party bosses, declining in most cases to run against vulnerable Democrats, or, indeed, against any Democrats: this year, however, they have taken the unusual step of running a candidate for US Senate largely because Diane Feinstein is, unfortunately, a shoo-in. On the local level, however, they have continued their longstanding policy of running practically no one. This in spite of the fact that localism practically defines the Green sensibility. Now, listen to the arguments made by Naderite Jim Hightower, the Texas prophet of poor-white- trash populism, defending his candidate against the "charge" that the Greens will hurt Gore in a close race. After enthusing over the pretty impressive crowds at Nader's rallies on the Lehrer News Hour, Hightower
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- If it isn't what you beleive why are you saying it? Because it's the truth. This list is a group effort. How well it works is determined by what we all think. I'm not offended by content like this. I'm offended that someone would show so little respect for the harmonious cohesion of this often valuable resource we share. Are you being disruptive on purpose, or don't you realize what you're doing? Uh huh. The personal attacks begin again. When people come in hear and act disruptive, anything I do in response is not an attack, it's a defense. This happens fairly often. We're trying to accomplish something here. You're disrupting our effort. Why? So all that stuff always being posted about Recovered/False memories is irrelevant to the list? That remains to be seen. The jury's still out on recovered memory. It has been the object of considerable parapolitical maneuvering by various cabals. That alone makes it relevant. Whether recovered memory itself is a valid concept or not, I don't know. Personally, I don't have much faith in any memory, recovered or otherwise. I want forensic evidence, lots of forensic evidence. Everything else is opinion. But what's the connection here? Why bring up recovered memory? Is this MP case a recovered memory case? The wording was quoted verbatim from the article. So what? It doesn't matter where it came from. It matters where it ended up. Why did you post it in its entirety? A summation would have sufficed. Even warning posted over a blank screen would have been polite. That way people who wanted to read it could have paged down to it. That way people who open the post without knowing what was in it would be spared, if they chose, from having to look at it. Personally, I think the smart way to live is to look all of reality right in the face, no matter how ugly it is. Better to know the truth. To shrink away faint heartedly only makes things worse by denying you some of the facts. But not everyone here feels as I do. Some people wish to limit what they see. Would it hurt so much to be a little polite to them? It's a small thing. Show a little respect. You're in their home, often in their bedroom. That's their turf. You're a guest. Show respect for the local customs. Otherwise, you will drive some of these people off of this list and out of my life and I will be very angry about it because I value access to what they bring to to the list. I don't agree with all of it. I don't even like some of these people as people (and vise versa as well, I'm sure) But I value them, and if you're smart, you will value them too, because if they stay on the list you will learn things from them that you would not learn any other way. Do not drive them away by flaunting things you know will alienate them in in ways that deny them the choice whether to read it or not. Everyone here values the freedom to choose, or at least their own freedom to choose. Choice is the issue here. If some of the people on this list want a choice as to whether or not to have stuff like that in their face, we ought to give them the choice. You ought to give them the choice. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- why do you seem determind that there was a disruptive motive in the sending of the original mail? that aside, you comments below indicate that you want censorship to be in place on the list for the sake of harmony sheesh- tell us what the boundries are for posting then! the damn posting had enough info in the subject line and in the first paragraph to warn of "sensitive" types on the list that the body text was gonna be "difficult", no? craig - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist Do not drive them away by flaunting things you know will alienate them in in ways that deny them the choice whether to read it or not. Everyone here values the freedom to choose, or at least their own freedom to choose. Choice is the issue here. If some of the people on this list want a choice as to whether or not to have stuff like that in their face, we ought to give them the choice. You ought to give them the choice. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: why do you seem determind that there was a disruptive motive in the sending of the original mail? I'm not determined, but I am suspicious. The powers that be have a long, thick, rich history of disrupting conspiracy research. It happens a lot. Sometimes it's just somebody's hobby. Sometimes it's the work of paid psy-war ops. Either way, the research suffers. that aside, you comments below indicate that you want censorship to be in place on the list for the sake of harmony sheesh- tell us what the boundries are for posting then! I'm not talking about censorship. I'm talking about manners. Look, in real life I curse often. Seldom do a go ten minutes without a curse. I'm a blue collar guy. I ride motorcycles. I sling wrenches. That's how guys like me talk. To each other. Not to people who are offended by it. When I'm in my garage, I spit on the floor. You don't mind because it's my garage. If I do this in your kitchen, it's a whole other matter, right? Same with this. I used to curse fairly frequently here. I wrote like I talked because it felt more honest to me. But people pointed out that I was being rude to some people. I was. I was invading their personal space with something they found offensive. I thought they were silly to be offended by mere words. I still feel that way. But it costs me little, and hurts me not at all, to express myself with different words. And it gives them such pleasure. And it makes them a lot more cooperative. be nice to these people. They can't help being the way they are. They grew up like that. They think that's how they're supposed to be. They think you're not supposed to curse in public because it's bad manners. When I'm posting on a list I'm in public. So I figure, when in Rome, shoot Roman candles. So I quit cursing in front of them. If I can do this, anybody can do this. Is it so much to ask that we try to get along, or at least to stay focused? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Open House: Alex Constantine Web Site
The site is an ongoing project, with new information posted regularly. The permanent location of the core "Alex Constantine Political Conspiracy Research Bin" is at: http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/ Thanks, Alex
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- nessie wrote: I'm not talking about censorship. I'm talking about manners. Look, in real life I curse often. snip I haven't had time to really follow CTRL in detail lately, but I would like to clarify a few things. First, I agree with nessie about 'manners' - manners are simply making all people feel comfortable, it is about being polite. Those are old fashioned words in our society - manners and being polite. What is wrong with that? Nothing. It is just respecting other people from other cultures. For people to get along, you have to be able to some common ground. Another point is that somebody thanked me for 'supporting' them on this thread. I was writing from what was in my heart, and what I wrote was my personal opinion about how media, although I believe in freedom of speech, can sometimes cross the boundary of what is necessary in terms of getting a point across. I was attempting to debate here the good, the bad, and the ugly in media reporting. I was not 'supporting' any other person's position. In addition, I found the comment that perhaps 'reptiles' ate the two school girls who were kidnapped, raped and tortured to death appalling. Sorry, I failed to see the humour in that comment. Or, if the poster was serious, perhaps they should look at life and realize that humans are capable of the most atrocious activities. Blaming the most horrendous of human actions on 'reptilans' is an easy way out for absolving the darker side of humans. So! 1. I think communities need to know what is happening and it is vitally important to have a free press, or media, to monitor happenings for us. 2. Good taste doesn't cost anything and by that I mean, is it truly necessary in the interest of justice to have the videotapes of two young girls murdered in the most horrendous of ways, aired on TV? What I failed to mention in my previous post on this issue, is that, although the judge banned the airing of the videos of the girls rape and torture, he allowed the 'sound' to be heard by all: so the girls pleading for their lives is now public, along with young Leslie, who asked that she be allowed to live long enough so she could say goodbye to her 10-year-old brother. I don't know the answers to huge questions either, but in this particular case, I am at least glad that, in general, the judge buried the videotapes with the girls. It was the decent thing to do. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- why do you seem determind that there was a disruptive motive in the sending of the original mail? I'm not determined, but I am suspicious. The powers that be have a long, thick, rich history of disrupting conspiracy research. It happens a lot. Sometimes it's just somebody's hobby. Sometimes it's the work of paid psy-war ops. Either way, the research suffers. Well I hope that cheque from MI5 arrives soon, as my reward for disrupting the list. It was pretty clever of them to arrange for this guy to molest his students decades ago, then for it to be in the news KNOWING that I would be drawn to post it to the Internet (which hadn't been invented then). It was also clever of them to arrange for these delicate souls who are being protected to also be on the list to complain about it. Hey, maybe it's the people who complain about whacky out-of-this-world postings with no evidence who are actually disrupting things, as they seem to generate far more bandwidth noise. that aside, you comments below indicate that you want censorship to be in place on the list for the sake of harmony sheesh- tell us what the boundries are for posting then! I'm not talking about censorship. I'm talking about manners. Look, in real life I curse often. Seldom do a go ten minutes without a curse. I'm a blue collar guy. I ride motorcycles. I sling wrenches. That's how guys like me talk. To each other. Not to people who are offended by it. When I'm in my garage, I spit on the floor. You don't mind because it's my garage. If I do this in your kitchen, it's a whole other matter, right? Same with this. Uh huh. Who was it that said they really detest those liberals who are all in favour of free speech, whatever it is, except for...(usually Nazi propoganda and topically enough child pornography). And I don't see what your alleged foul mouth has got to do with anything. As it happens I almost never curse, even when I stub my toe, break something expensive or whatever. It's called self control and maturity. I used to curse fairly frequently here. I wrote like I talked because it felt more honest to me. But people pointed out that I was being rude to some people. I was. I was invading their personal space with something they found offensive. I thought they were silly to be offended by mere words. I still feel that way. But it costs me little, and hurts me not at all, to express myself with different words. And it gives them such pleasure. And it makes them a lot more cooperative. be nice to these people. They can't help being the way they are. They grew up like that. They think that's how they're supposed to be. They think you're not supposed to curse in public because it's bad manners. When I'm posting on a list I'm in public. So I figure, when in Rome, shoot Roman candles. So I quit cursing in front of them. If I can do this, anybody can do this. Is it so much to ask that we try to get along, or at least to stay focused? Uh huh. So we shouldn't post things you don't like/find disturbing because you don't swear on the list anymore? Sounds perfectly reasonable and logical to me. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rogue's Gallery
-Caveat Lector- The Games People Plan Now - White Knight vs. Black Knights - here they are, the whole tribe and lot of them - see how treacherous they are - Albright playing innocent, but George Schultz is one who realized what Jonathan Pollard, the Navy Top Secret Emp;loyee, when he sold secrets to Israelies and prevented peace with Sadaam Hussein and as a resut how many children have died Can anyone honestly believe that Barak, Ehud the Thug (aka Ehud Brug the Thug( and Arafat and Sharon, whom they call the "fat slob" now, and Gore and Clinton and all the rest of these people with the exception of those who really tried to keep the peace - can you honestly say they are sincere? Billions of dollars being spent on munitions, submarines, uzzies, nuclear weapons - and Sadaam Hussein and the PLO is to sit back and just let their boots wall on them - say like the boots of Waco and Littleton and Ruby Ridge.these killers from Ruby Ridge to Waco to the Holy Land all using same war tactics. Ashkenazi (love that nazi ending) European Jews? It was King Faisal and his son young Prince Turki Faisal who in 1967 warned of Zionism.the young prince told me that the Zionist was causing all he trouble in the Holy Land for the arabs and jews wanted to live in peace, for both are semites...but the Ashke-Nazi Jews of European decent of which Ehud the Brug Thug Barak is one - these people will not let them live in peace, for they want the oil. Nice story here...Rogues Gallery..Gallery of the slaughterers of the innocents Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: "Experts Aghast at Gore's Russia Deal" "...and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss himbut Jesus said unto him, Judas betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?" Luke 22 NewsMax.com: Article ArchivesNewsMax.com Experts Aghast at Gore's Russia Deal NewsMax.com Thursday, Oct. 26, 2000 Former American defense, national security and diplomatic officials have combined to express alarm over Al Gore's secret agreement allowing Russia to slip arms to Iran. It is unprecedented that a high-level bipartisan critique of a sitting vice president, involving such a delicate national security development, would be made publicly. According to the Washington Times, which uncovered the furtive back-channel 1995 deal Gore made with his close friend, Viktor Chernomyrdin, then the Russian prime minister: A bipartisan group of 11 leading national security officials and former secretaries of defense and state has issued a scathing report denouncing the agreement Gore made in secret with Chernomyrdin to keep Russia's arming of Iran from being revealed to Congress and the American public. In their joint statement, issued through the office of former Secretary of State George P. Shultz, the American experts said: "The military balance in regions of vital interest to America and her allies â" including the Persian Gulf, which is a critical source of the world's energy supplies â" is the essential underpinning for a strong foreign policy. "That is why we are deeply disturbed by the agreement made between Vice President Gore and then-Russian Premier Chernomyrdin in which America acquiesced in the sale by Russia to Iran of highly threatening military equipment such as modern submarines, fighter planes and wake-homing torpedoes. "We also find incomprehensible that this agreement was not fully disclosed even to those committees of Congress charged with receiving highly classified briefings â" apparently at the request of the Russian premier. "But agreement to his request is even more disturbing since the Russian sales could have brought sanctions against Russia in accordance with a 1992 U.S. law sponsored by Sen. John McCain and then-Sen. Al Gore." In addition to Shultz, the signers included former defense secretaries Caspar Weinberger, James R. Schlesinger, Donald Rumsfeld and Frank C. Carlucci; former national security advisers Zbigniew Bzezinski and Brent Scowcroft; former secretaries of state James A. Baker III, Henry Kissinger and Lawrence S. Eagleburger, and former CIA Director R. James Woolsey. Those men, coming from both the Democratic and Republican parties, served in the highest levels of leadership positions dating from the current Clinton-Gore administration as far back as that of President Richard M. Nixon. Their statement was issued shortly before a Senate hearing Thursday on Gore's covert agreements with Chernomyrdin that made it possible for Russia to sell conventional arms as well as nuclear weapons technology to Iran in secret, thus avoiding American sanctions. The Clinton-Gore administration tried, without success, to get the Senate to hold this hearing behind closed doors. Under the secret agreement with Chernomyrdin, Gore committed the United States not to impose on Russia the sanctions required by the United States law, which he had
[CTRL] Hackers Break Into Microsoft's Computer
-Caveat Lector- Hackers Break Into Microsoft's Computer Network Blueprints to Latest Versions of Windows and Office Software May Have Been Stolen Get Quote, Company Info: A HREF="aol://4785:MSFT"MSFT/A By MICHAEL J. MARTINEZ .c The Associated Press SEATTLE (Oct. 27) - Hackers broke into Microsoft Corp.'s computer network and may have stolen blueprints to the latest versions of the company's Windows and Office software. Microsoft confirmed the electronic break-in late Thursday night and said it was working with law enforcement to investigate. Microsoft spokesman Rick Miller would not confirm whether the hackers may have accessed any of Microsoft's source code, the blueprints for such products as the Windows operating system. ``We're still looking into it. We're still trying to figure out how it happened,'' Miller said. ``This is a deplorable act of industrial espionage and we will work to protect our intellectual property.'' Miller said there was no evidence that any source code for Windows or other commercial software made by Microsoft had been modified or corrupted since the company's computer system had been broken into. The break-in was discovered Wednesday by the software giant's security employees, according to The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the story, citing people familiar with the situation. Security employees discovered that passwords used to transfer the source code behind Microsoft's software were being sent from the company's computer network in Redmond, Wash., to an e-mail account in St. Petersburg, Russia, the Journal reported. The identities of the hackers are unknown. They are believed to have had access to the software codes for three months. A person familiar with the break-in told the Journal that it appeared the hackers accessed Microsoft's system by e-mailing software, called QAZ Trojan, to the company's network and then opening a so-called back door through the infected computer. In hacking terms, a ``trojan'' is quite similar to the Trojan Horse of Greek mythology. It looks like a normal attachment in an e-mail, such as a Word document or picture, but contains a hidden code that can, in effect, take limited control of the recipient's computer. Once inside, the hacker software can be used to deliver passwords from one computer to another or even destroy files. Microsoft is making sure the hackers cannot use the stolen source code to change commercial software used by businesses, governments and consumers. The risk is said to be remote. Microsoft was planning to investigate the break-in without help from law enforcement authorities, the Journal reported, but the company contacted the FBI on Thursday. The FBI declined comment when contacted early Friday by The Associated Press. AP-NY-10-27-00 0833EDT Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] AlGorithm
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/26/2000 3:21:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I give a speech about the big-picture political and cultural ideas in my book The Future and Its Enemies, the question and answer period almost always starts with a down-to-earth query: "What do you think of George W. Bush and Al Gore?" "Well," I say, "Bush is a mixed bag. But I think Al Gore is the devil." This line always gets a laugh, but itâs not really a joke. Donât get me wrong: Unlike some Clinton haters, who have the same opinion of his boss, I donât mean Gore is literally the Prince of Darkness. I simply mean that he operates according to core principles that work to erode the freedoms of individuals and the progress of the open society. Funny. I always say that Gore is nothing special, but Bush is the anti-Christ. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Konformist: Gore the homophobe (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:32:43 -0700 From: Russ Kick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Konformist: Gore the homophobe Gore Sought Help from Anti-homosexual Group http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20001025_xnjdo_gore_sough.shtml During his 1988 run for the presidential nomination, Gore sought and received help from Fred Phelps Sr., the Baptist preacher who started the notorious God Hates Fags Website. This article is accompanied by pictures of Gore getting chummy with Phelps and members of Phelps' family. Gore Said Homosexuality "Abnormal" and "Wrong"; Vowed Not to Take Money from Gay Groups http://www.drudgereport.com/gay.htm Old newspaper articles catch Gore spewing homophobia.
Re: [CTRL] AlGorithm
-Caveat Lector- KIng Hussein of Jordan, the son of an English Lady killed in the heliocopter crash, born February 5, 1962 when the stars in the sky were in place is alleged to be the anti Christ.but then we have so many walking around, some on this list... So - some say the star of Bethleham was a Lantern carried by a Jesuit to the manger..now I never believed that one.] Only know God was an Englishman they say, and maybe he was half Persian for the Garden of Eden supposedly was located in Iraq Guess we need to kow who the snake in the grass was A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- It was pretty clever of them to arrange for this guy to molest his students decades ago, That's assuming he is guilty, which is far from clear as yet. seeing as how this guy is a politico, it's just as likely he is being framed by other politicos as it is that he's guilty. Unfortunately, the chances of a court sorting this out correctly are probably slim. Hey, maybe it's the people who complain about whacky out-of-this-world postings with no evidence who are actually disrupting things, as they seem to generate far more bandwidth noise. You're absolutely right about that. All these unsubstantiated allegations about shape shifting reptiles, benevolent space brothers, and the communist Jewish bankers conspiracy are red herrings that distract us from our real work. We would do well to concoct effective countermeasures. Uh huh. Who was it that said they really detest those liberals who are all in favour of free speech, whatever it is, except for...(usually Nazi propaganda and topically enough child pornography). This is a non sequitur. What are you talking about? And I don't see what your alleged foul mouth has got to do with anything. As it happens I almost never curse, even when I stub my toe, break something expensive or whatever. It's called self control and maturity. No it's not. It's called cultural values. Some cultures speak and act one way while other cultures speak and act differently. My daily use of vernacular is an expression of my culture (or, if you insist, subculture). That's how we do it. Among the majority of my peers and comrades it is not considered abnormal or offensive. When among those to whom it is offensive, I bite my tongue. It is little effort. I find the whole notion that the dialect of the ruling class is "proper" English and other dialects are not, to be classist and repulsive. What makes "good" English good is when it effectively communicates. Nevertheless, I recognize that most people don't feel that way, so I try to accommodate their beliefs. I won't sacrifice relevant truths to do so, but where a brief summation will suffice in place of lurid, graphic descriptions I go with the summation. I've taken the time to learn "proper" English even though I find it stilted and awkward compared to vernacular. I use it as a sign of respect for those to whom I speak. For the same reason, I eschew lurid, graphic descriptions of sex except in circumstances in which I am sure none present will be offended. This goes against my grain, but I do it anyway because it is more important that we all get along and work constructively together than it is that I get my own way. I do find it disconcerting that people, any people, should be offended by the truth and yet let the lies, atrocities and war crimes of the powers that be not bother them. Talk about sex and they get all excited. The Prez has sex at the office and they nearly have apoplexy. But talk about the half million dead Iraqi women and children the Blockade has produced and their blood pressure scarcely registers a change. This is very wrong. but that's another topic, and until they learn to get over it I see no reason to get bogged down in arguing over sex while innocent civilians are dying at taxpayers' hands. Uh huh. So we shouldn't post things you don't like/find disturbing because you don't swear on the list anymore? Sounds perfectly reasonable and logical to me. Indeed it is. What I'm saying here is that behooves us all to show respect for each other's cultural values, at least here, at least enough as to facilitate cogent and topical discourse. If I can do it, you can do it. It's not much to ask. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Pentagon to Add 450 Experts to Protect Defense Secrets
-Caveat Lector- Pentagon to Add 450 Experts to Protect Defense Secrets By Walter Pincus and Vernon Loeb Washington Post Staff Writers Friday , October 27, 2000 ; Page A02 The Pentagon is hiring 450 counterintelligence specialists to protect defense secrets after learning that China has obtained classified U.S. missile technology, including critical information about the heat shield that keeps America's most advanced missiles from burning up as they reenter the atmosphere, senior defense officials said. While applauding the attempt to boost security, members of Congress said it was long overdue, coming more than five years after the Defense Department was told of the suspected Chinese espionage. A trove of Chinese military documents, given to the CIA in 1995 by a former Chinese missile specialist, showed that Beijing had gathered some classified data about U.S. nuclear weapons and a great deal of secret information about America's ballistic missiles, according to officials familiar with the material. The Energy Department reacted quickly to the apparent loss of nuclear secrets, launching a probe that focused on Los Alamos National Laboratory and scientist Wen Ho Lee. But the Defense Department has been slower to respond to what officials now say was the far more substantial evidence that China had obtained significant missile technology. Over the past two years, Congress has pressed the Energy Department to take drastic measures to tighten security at the national laboratories, such as requiring polygraph or "lie detector" exams for thousands of employees. But little congressional pressure has been applied to the Pentagon, which now is moving to tighten its control over missile technology at military installations and private defense contractors. Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon said this week in response to inquiries from The Washington Post that it will take until 2002 to bring on board all 450 counterintelligence specialists, roughly the same number eliminated since the end of the Cold War for budgetary reasons. "All the new specialists will work to protect technical secrets at the Defense Department laboratories and defense contractors," Bacon said, adding that "other procedural techniques and monitoring tools" will be used to improve security. The counterintelligence officers are being hired through the Pentagon's civil service procedures and are expected to come primarily from the military, local police forces and the ranks of former government employees, according to a Pentagon official. Some will work in Washington and others at defense facilities around the country. Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said in an interview that his committee staff has been urging the Pentagon to add counterintelligence positions since 1997. Shelby called the Pentagon's failure to investigate the loss of missile technology "a big concern." China's apparent theft of missile secrets from the Defense Department or its contractors is at least as troubling as the Energy Department's alleged loss of secrets related to nuclear warheads, he said. Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said the slow response reflects broader security problems at the Pentagon, including a backlog of about 1 million people awaiting routine re-investigations of their security clearances. "It is such a huge problem," Goss said. "They are whittling away at the pile there." Most of the approximately 60 espionage cases in the Defense Department over the past 20 years have involved people who had been cleared to handle classified documents. Top-secret clearances are required to be re-investigated every five years, secret clearances every 10 years and confidential clearances every 15 years. Rep. Christopher Cox (R-Calif.), chairman of a House select committee that investigated Chinese espionage at the national laboratories, said he believes the CIA and the entire U.S. intelligence community share responsibility for the Defense Department's failure to conduct a prompt investigation of the loss of missile technology. "The problem could have been alleviated if any member of the intelligence community had shown special initiative," Cox said. In 1995, according to senior intelligence officials, a Chinese missile specialist approached the CIA with an unsolicited offer to provide secret Chinese military documents. Over a period of months, this "walk-in" agent handed over about 13,000 pages, The Post reported last week. One of the first sections to be translated contained physical data about the W-88, a nuclear warhead on U.S. submarine-launched missiles. This triggered a 1996 probe by the Energy Department and the FBI, which the Justice Department later concluded had focused too narrowly on Lee. The government never charged him with espionage, and he was freed last month after nine months in jail when he pleaded
[CTRL] NM: New Law Could Jail Whistleblowers
-Caveat Lector- New Law Could Jail Whistleblowers NewsMax.com Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2000 Honest government employees who blow the whistle on corruption and other illegal acts could face prison terms once a new bill is signed into law by President Clinton. The law, critics say, will have a chilling effect on whistleblowers and could deter them from coming forth with information the public has a right to know. Moreover, under the new intelligence law sure to be signed by Clinton, reporters could face being jailed for refusing to disclose their sources who leaked information to them. The bill, the fiscal 2001 Intelligence Authorization Act, contains a so-called anti-leak provision that makes leaking "properly classified" government information a criminal act punishable by as much as three years in prison. It was backed by Attorney General Janet Reno, who has been plagued by leaks coming from her own department revealing her adamant refusal to appoint a special counsel to investigate Vice President Al Gore's 1996 campaign fund-raising abuses. It split GOP ranks, with top leaders such as House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde opposing Rep. Porter J. Goss, R-Fla., chairman of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and the provision's author, Sen. Richard C. Shelby, R-Ala., chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Hyde was joined by Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., the Judiciary Committee's ranking Democrat. The two sent a letter to Goss, the House sponsor of the bill and a former CIA official, in which they insisted that extending criminal sanctions to leaks of all "properly classified information" was a matter that House rules mandated be addressed by their committee. "It has profound First Amendment implications, and goes to the very heart of the ability of the public to remain informed about matters of critical public interest, which often relate to governmental misdeeds," they wrote. "Moreover, since the Executive Branch asserts unilateral authority to define what information should be classified, this extension would grant the administration a blank check to criminalize any leaking they do not like." Joining Hyde and Conyers in fighting the provision, Rep. Robert L. Barr Jr., R-Ga., a former CIA official and U.S. attorney, told the House: "This legislation contains a provision that will create - make no mistake about it, with not one day of hearings, without one moment of public debate, without one witness - an official secrets act. "It has been broached many times. ... But our regard for constitutional civil liberties ... has in every case in which an effort has been made to enact an official secrets act beaten back those efforts. "Currently, if an individual discloses certain categories of important national security information, he can and should be prosecuted," Barr added. "This provision, though, would silence whistleblowers in a way that has never before come before this body and which has never before been enacted." During the House debate Goss said, "Leaking classified government information is not a right or a privilege of U.S. officials or employees who have access to that information. "Too often over the past few years, we have significantly risked, and sometimes lost, fragile intelligence resources because those employed by the government ... have chosen to leak that information." Goss told the House that the anti-leak provision was adapted to conform with language suggested by Reno and Justice Department lawyers, who wanted criminal sanctions to apply to the unauthorized disclosure of "properly" classified information, so that in any criminal case, the government would have to prove not only that the information was stamped classified but also that its release actually injured the nation. Despite protests from media organizations that reporters are threatened by the bill's anti-leak provision, Sen. Shelby told the Senate, "I can assure this body that in passing [the anti-leak provision], no member of the Select Committee on Intelligence intended that it be used as an excuse for investigating the press." A memorandum prepared by Shelby's staff and obtained by the Washington Post asserts that the Justice Department "rarely seeks to interview or subpoena journalists when investigating leaks." The memo adds that there has never been a prosecution of a journalist under existing laws - even the statute covering unauthorized disclosure of the identities of intelligence operatives, which criminalizes the release, and the receipt, of such information. That may be true, but under the bill's provisions it could change, media groups charge. Prosecuting leakers, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, will inevitably lead prosecutors to subpoena journalists to identify their sources, which journalists will inevitably refuse to do. "I could therefore see more journalists going to jail
[CTRL] WND: Experts fear Russia to blackmail Gore
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001025_xex_experts_fear.shtml Experts fear Russia to blackmail Gore VP 'owes his personal fortune to a fully recruited Soviet agent' By Charles Thompson and Tony Hays © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Russian intelligence operatives have fanned out across America hoping to dig up the same kind of dirt on George W. Bush and his aides that they have apparently used to influence President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore in the past, according to several Russia experts in the nation's capital. "The Russians apparently haven't found anything, but it's their standard operating procedure," said J. Michael Waller, vice president of the American Foreign Policy Council. Waller, who is also editor of the Russia Reform Monitor, an executive editor of Demokratizatsiya: The Journal of Post-Soviet Democratization and a contributor to Insight magazine, holds a Ph.D. in international security affairs from Boston University. In fact, Waller revealed that a Russian diplomat recently had lunch with him and asked him probing questions about Gov. Bush and his closest advisers. "The Russian wasn't making idle conversation, and I fed him mostly disinformation," Waller said. "I wasn't shocked, because I knew that's how the Russians do business." According to Waller and other intelligence specialists, the Russians are primarily interested in defeating Bush, because they already have a wealth of derogatory information about Clinton and Gore. For example, in early 1996, when Clinton was in the midst of his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, he warned Lewinsky that they had to use code words when they engaged in phone sex since foreign embassies, most likely the Russians, were bugging their conversations. This was a year before Lewinsky began spilling her secrets to Linda Tripp, who secretly taped their conversations. In his book, "Sellout," David Schippers, chief investigative counsel for the Clinton impeachment, wrote, "Another issue with possible security implications was the president's reported phone sex. Almost every phone line in the White House is totally secure. But as Lewinsky testified under oath, the president was engaging in tawdry phone sex, on an unsecure line, opening the question of whether a foreign power might have intercepted and recorded these calls which was a chilling possibility given the potential for blackmail." A top former CIA intelligence analyst, who has advised several presidents, including Clinton, told WorldNetDaily that the Russians were the ones who did the bugging. They proved they had the capability in 1998 when Russian diplomat and intelligence office Stanislav Borisovich Gusev placed a sophisticated bugging and transmission device in the wooden molding of a wall of a conference room inside the U.S. State Department. Fifty to 100 meetings were held in the conference room before the device was discovered. Gusev was expelled. According to former White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich, who was assigned to conduct background investigations for Clinton White House appointees, as late as two years into the Clinton administration the General Accounting Office found that only 24 White House employees had been cleared to handle thousands and thousands of pages of classified material. The other employees told the FBI that they could not be bothered with getting a clearance from the FBI. Aldrich notes that his partner, agent Dennis Sculimbrene, once complained to him that "'I'm having a heck of a time getting these Clinton people to grant interviews. I call people up, tell them who I am and what I need to do, and they tell me they're too busy to talk to the FBI!'" Kenneth Timmerman, another expert on Russian espionage methods, said that compared with the State Department, the White House was packed with amateurs who weren't interested in security. Timmerman and Waller both pointed to the case of a woman from the Dominican Republic who was assigned to the White House by Hillary Clinton, even though she was a dedicated Cuban intelligence officer. She rebuffed all attempts at getting her to submit to a background investigation, saying she was a close friend of Mrs. Clinton and shouldn't be bothered. She was later nominated to be ambassador to the Dominican Republic, but had her nomination blocked by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee due to her subversive background. "Bugging the White House wouldn't cause the Russians to break a sweat," Timmerman said. In his recent book, "Midnight Diaries," former Russian president Boris Yeltsin revealed that Russian intelligence sent him a coded report in 1996 that Clinton was embroiled in an affair with a young woman and that the Republican Party was going to use that weakness of the flesh to destroy the president's reputation. Yeltsin said he considered giving Clinton a copy of the coded dispatch, but thought better of it. Yeltsin amended this account during an Oct. 9 interview
[CTRL] TSO: Secret new evidence halts [Lockerbie] trial
-Caveat Lector- WTF? http://thescotsman.co.uk/index.cfm?id=TS00976956532d=Newsc=fronts=4 Secret new evidence halts trial Tanya Thompson MYSTERY new evidence in the Lockerbie trial could have "the greatest conceivable effect" on the proceedings, a defence lawyer warned yesterday. The defence has been granted a week-long adjournment to give time for worldwide investigations triggered by the latest information. William Taylor QC, representing one of two Libyans charged with the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie in 1988, said that a further adjournment might be necessary because of the scale of the inquiries. Reasons for a dramatic halt to the Lockerbie trial remain shrouded in secrecy. It follows revelations by the Crown that a foreign country had supplied new information. The prosecution team has already spent two weeks investigating claims made in the material, which arrived unexpectedly from "a foreign source" - believed to be a government - on 4 October. The contents are "of some complexity and considerable sensitivity" according to Lord Advocate Colin Boyd QC, leading the Lockerbie prosecution. He passed the full details to the defence on Monday, telling the court at Kamp van Zeist in the Netherlands that the information "points to a number of individuals who had to be seen by the Scottish police force". Mr Boyd said there were five names of people "in another European country and one in the United States of America". Mr Taylor, representing Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, said: "The information we have received, if true, is of the greatest conceivable effect on this trial." He gave no further clues to the court, but said it was likely he would be seeking a further adjournment when the court reconvened next Tuesday. A senior legal source said that the key players involved in the trial were sworn to secrecy. He said: "I cannot remember a case where secrets were so closely guarded. It s all very dramatic stuff." Earlier this month, the Lord Advocate revealed that a foreign country had supplied fresh information at the eleventh hour. Mr Boyd told the Scottish court in the Netherlands that inquiries were being made at a very senior level, but he would not divulge further details until the investigations are completed. He said that the information related not to the Crown case, but to the defence of incrimination being put forward by the two accused Libyans. They blame Palestinian terrorists for the bombing. Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi and Al-Amin Khalifa Fhimah are accused of being agents of the Libyan intelligence service and of being responsible for the placing of the bomb on Pan Am flight 103 which killed 270 people in December, 1988. The pair deny conspiracy to murder, murder and a breach of the 1982 Aviation Security Act. The presiding judge, Lord Sutherland, has said that he expects to be given more information about what is going on before accepting the need for a further delay. He has already warned that the trial was "beginning to grind along rather slowly" but has agreed that the new evidence needs full investigation by both sides before the trial, which began last May, can continue. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JW: NORTHROP GRUMMAN OFFICIALS ORDERED TO TESTIFY . . .
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE October 25, 2000 Contact: Press Office (202) 646-5172 NORTHROP GRUMMAN OFFICIALS ORDERED TO TESTIFY BY COURT IN WHITE HOUSE E-MAIL TRIAL Big Defense Contractor Asserting Privilege in Apparent Effort to Help Clinton-Gore White House Northrop Grumman Officials Expected to Have Information About Hidden Clinton-Gore E-Mail and Threats (Washington, DC) A federal court judge, The Honorable Royce Lamberth, authorized this week the subpoenaing of fourteen Northrop Grumman officials and employees for testimony in federal court concerning the burgeoning Clinton-Gore White House e-mail scandal. Evidence shows that Northrop Grumman knew that White House officials threatened Northrop Grumman employees with jail in order to keep the e-mail from the courts, independent counsels, and Congress. Rather than turn over to the Court certain documents about the scandal which likely show the White House is lying about the threats its officials made, Northrop Grumman is asserting attorney-client and other privileges. The Clinton-Gore White House has refused Judge Lamberths requests to ask Northrop Grumman to waive any privileges and release the documents so all the facts can come out about the e-mail scandal. The scandal was uncovered by Judicial Watch through White House whistle blowers and is being pursued in its ongoing Filegate civil lawsuit on behalf of those Reagan and Bush staffers and others whose FBI files were taken and misused by this White House. (Hillary Clinton is a defendant in the lawsuit.) Among the Northrop Grumman officials that Judge Lamberth authorized Judicial Watch to subpoena is Kent Kresha, its Chairman, President, and CEO. Northrop Grummans computer contract with the Clinton-Gore White House is worth, according to testimony, $5-$6 million per year. It is no surprise then that they are asserting bogus privileges to keep key documents and testimony from the public about White House threats and intimidation. We look forward to getting information from Northrop Grumman witnesses in court, stated Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WND: Al Gore's secret deal with Russia
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/20001025_xcsof_al_gores_s.shtml Recent reports in the New York Times and the Washington Times show that in 1995 Vice President Al Gore signed a secret arms deal with Moscow. The deal reportedly allowed Russia to sell weapons to Iran and included illegal kickbacks, intended to bribe individual politicians inside Moscow. However, documents forced from the Clinton administration by the Freedom of Information Act show that part of the secret 1995 Gore agreement with Moscow included more than weapons for Iran. One hidden point inside the vice president's pact with Moscow sought U.S. access to advanced Russian weapons technology. In September 1995 U.S. Vice Admiral W. C. Bowes wrote a letter to Russian Navy Commander Adm. Felix Gromov, informing Gromov of the U.S. Navy's intention to purchase the SS-N-22 Sunburn anti-ship missile. The letter was written after U.S. defense contractor Vector Microwave toured the Sunburn missile plant and inspected the deadly weapon at close hand, all at the invitation of the Russian defense contractor Arsenjev Aviation. U.S. Navy admirals do not write Russian admirals with intentions of buying nuclear-tipped missiles unless someone at the top on both sides has given the OK. Admirals in both services are not known to take such risks without orders. The decision to allow Vice Adm. Bowes and Adm. Gromov to work together on "Missile-Gate" originated with Al Gore and his 1995 secret pact. The Clinton-Gore administration changed the joint Russia/U.S. military program to fill its politically correct needs. In 1995, the Clinton administration balked at the Sunburn price tag of over a million dollars a copy. Instead, the administration selected favored defense contractor McDonnell Douglas, now Boeing, to purchase a smaller, lower-cost missile from Russia called the Zvezda MA-31 "Krypton." McDonnell Douglas, according to the official U.S. Navy documentation, proceeded under orders to help Russia improve the Krypton missile. U.S. Navy and McDonnell Douglas engineers suggested a series of "P3I" or "pre-planned product improvements" to extend the range of the Krypton, improve its flight performance, and enable jet fighters to safely fire the weapon. "The MA-31 (Krypton) target will need (pre-planned product improvements) P3I in order to meet the range and ground/surface launch requirements for the Supersonic Sea Skimming Target program (SSST). The range of the MA-31 target in its FCT configuration is approximately 15 nm (nautical miles) at low altitude," states the 1995 review document. According to the 1995 McDonnell Douglas review, one "extended range option" given to the Russian contractor "adds an auxiliary fuel tank, a reduced drag nose cone, changes the fuel to JP-10 (which has a higher specific energy content than the Russian fuel), and modifies the ramjet nozzle. The extended range modification is intended to increase range to approximately 42 nm at 10m (meter) altitude." Another more crucial design improvement given to Russia, involved "Ground Jettison Testing" done by the U.S. defense contractor against the Russian missile. According to the 1995 program review document, the Russian built AKY-58M missile launcher for the Krypton was fatally flawed and could destroy the firing plane. "Two jettisons were planned; four completed," states the 1995 review document. "An anomaly was encountered during testing of the emergency jettison sequence. The lanyard which, during normal launch, remains with the launch rail and pulls the Booster Safe/Arm Plug which arms the booster for ignition, is supposed to remain with the target during Emergency Jettison. In three emergency jettison tests, the lanyard stayed with the launch rail instead of with the target. In all cases the booster would have been armed, and ignition could have occurred for any of several reasons." "(McDonnell Douglas) MDAC has determined that use of a longer lanyard and slower separation velocity would allow proper operation of the emergency jettison sequence. The problem has been turned over to the Russians for resolution," states the 1995 review document. The problem that plagued Krypton project has also been dogged by allegations of improper financial activity. In 1999 Janes Defense reported that each MA-31 missile purchase also includes a 28 percent "fee" given directly to Russian generals. Navy documents show that each Krypton missile costs $910,000. The 28 percent fee paid directly to the Russian generals amounts to over a quarter million dollar fee per missile. In addition, the extremely high price for the Krypton is almost twice the price of similar U.S. weapons and nearly equal to the original Sunburn missile offer. Russia has already benefited from the Krypton deal. In 1999, Russia negotiated billion dollar arms sales to both India and China for the newly improved Krypton. In fact, according to the new Russian weapons pact with Beijing, China will
[CTRL] WND: Lieberman excommunication making waves
-Caveat Lector- ELECTION 2000 Lieberman excommunication making waves Reaction to rabbinical court decision mixed among orthodox Jews By Tom Ambrose © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com A week following the excommunication of Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joseph Lieberman by a rabbinical court in New York, one thing is becoming clear: Reaction to Lieberman's views among Orthodox Jews is volatile and controversial. Lieberman, who has been under fire from various religious groups for his views on issues such as abortion and homosexuality, is finding himself increasingly at the center of a polarizing dialogue within his own religious community, Orthodox Judaism. The excommunication is the strongest statement yet in a series of criticisms of Lieberman by Orthodox rabbis and others. The decision by the New York Torah Court -- also known as a "beth din" -- was handed down by three rabbis who listened to evidence concerning Lieberman's recent statements regarding his faith. According to a statement on the website of Jews For Morality -- a grass-roots organization which claims to represent the views of "tens of thousands" of Orthodox Jews in New York and elsewhere -- the reason for the excommunication was that Lieberman had caused a "grave scandal" by desecrating God's name since, "... while claiming to be an observant Jew, Lieberman has been misrepresenting and falsifying to the American people the teachings of the Torah against partial-birth infanticide, against special privileges and preferential treatment for flaunting homosexuals, and against religious intermarriage of Jews." Since the announcement of the excommunication on Oct. 18 by Jews For Morality, Gore-Lieberman campaign press officials have remained unwilling to issue a statement regarding the decision despite repeated requests for a response from WorldNetDaily and other publications. However, a public relations representative of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, Betty Ehrenberg, stated that the "Orthodox Union is proud to have Sen. Lieberman" on its board of directors. She went on to state that Jews For Morality and other Jewish groups critical of Lieberman were "neither very large nor very influential." When asked what size she thought these organizations actually were, she admitted that she didn't know. Yet controversy over Lieberman's views exists even within the Orthodox Union -- a group that promotes itself as "the world's largest and most effective Jewish organization of its kind" and claims to speak nationally for "1,000 synagogues." Dr. Mandell I. Ganchrow, president of the Orthodox Union, has been cited in recent press accounts defending Lieberman, but at the same time has also acknowledged that he "may disagree" with Lieberman on various issues and reportedly has made statements critical of the senator's pronouncements on Jewish law. But the Orthodox Union is only one voice among Jewish organizations. In recent months, representatives of other Jewish organizations such as the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the United States and Canada, the American Board of Rabbis and the Republican Jewish Coalition have made strong public statements against Lieberman's positions on matters of Jewish law. When asked why he thought so much controversy exists within the Orthodox Jewish community, Rabbi Yehuda Levin with Jews For Morality speculated that many Jews are embarrassed by Lieberman's comments but are unsure of what to think or do since he is part of their community. He went on to acknowledge that, while there was not a central authority that could enforce the excommunication decision, Lieberman would not be able to hold a place of honor in synagogues that support the rabbinical court's action. According to Rabbi Levin, Lieberman will now have to contemplate his dishonor until he repents from wearing "his Judaism on his lapel" as a way to "get himself elected." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Moscow Times: WND: [Russian] Deputies Want to Save U.S.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/forum/skyline.htm Deputies Want to Save U.S. By Anna Badkhen Staff Writer Vote fraud alert! U.S. democracy is in danger! But Americans need not worry: A group of vigilant Russian lawmakers is determined to ride to the rescue. Saying they are alarmed by "deep concern with the possible falsification" of upcoming U.S. presidential elections, nine State Duma deputies have cobbled together a two-page resolution to that they say will help keep the vote fair. The resolution, which is expected to be voted on by parliament Friday, calls for the government to send a group of observers to monitor the Nov. 7 vote and to set up a foundation to protect U.S. democracy. It also envisions a Voice of Russia radio station transmission to the United States "to provide for the freedom of alternative information sources for American citizens." "Why do Americans always teach everyone democracy? Why dont we go and see what kind of democracy they have?" Deputy Georgy Tikhonov, one of the resolutions authors, said by telephone Wednesday. Other authors of the resolution include hard-core Communist Vasily Shandybin and seven other deputies from the Communist Party and the Regions of Russia faction. Tikhonov said the resolution was inspired by the United States conduct during the disputed parliamentary elections in Belarus earlier this month. The U.S. government called those elections unfair and refused to send observers to Belarus. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and the European Union, which sent only a low-level team of observers to the poll, agreed that the election did not meet international standards. However, Russia backed the elections as fair and democratic, and the Foreign Ministry said the vote has been carried out "calmly and in an organized fashion." "We have never seen more democratic elections" than those in Belarus, Tikhonov said. Washingtons behavior was "boorish" and "made us wonder just how democratic the elections are in the U.S.," he said. He added that the deputies are particularly concerned about elections in Texas and California where "the forces that vote for larger autonomy suffer from pressure that violates their inalienable democratic rights." The Washington-based League of Women Voters, one of the principal U.S. election watchdogs, declined to comment on the resolution. The OSCE also refused to comment. But other observers expressed disbelief. "They [the deputies] are quite mad," said Ariel Cohen, a Russia and Eurasia expert with the Heritage Foundation in Washington. "But having seen the list [of the deputies behind the resolution] it doesnt surprise me," he said by telephone from Washington. "These are the people who will gleefully vote to return Stalins national anthem ... to the democratic Russia. These are the people who inhabit the world of their own, the world of evil CIA spies and heroic Russian intelligence officers." Yury Dzhibladze, president of the Moscow-based Center for the Development of Democracy and Human Rights, said Russia had to prove itself democratic before considering monitoring elections. "How can a country that allows multitudinous violations during elections honestly state anything like this?" said Dzhibladze. "This project is reminiscent of the Soviet diplomacy of the 1960s and 1970s no, even of Stalins time," he said. "It may be funny, but it is also sad that these politicians couldnt care less about Russias reputation." Fellow Duma lawmakers, who say the resolution wont pass, are giving it little thought. Yuly Rybakov, head of the Democratic Russia movement, called the resolution "a mocking parade of idiots" and said the deputies behind it "simply wish to travel to the States at their voters expense." Asked whether he is concerned about the legitimacy of the U.S. presidential elections, Rybakov chuckled and said: "Oh, I am extremely concerned about it." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil
[CTRL] Fwd: Victory over secret searches bill!
-Caveat Lector- From: "Privacy News Update" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Victory over secret searches bill! Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:25:30 -0400 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = == Privacy News Update: House strips out language allowing police to issue "administrative subpoenas" = == * DefendYourPrivacy supporters achieve big win on Capitol Hill Earlier this week we asked for your help in killing a proposal contained in The Presidential Threat Protection Act (HR 3048) that would have given police broad new powers to issue "administrative subpoenas." Almost immediately, Capitol Hill offices were flooded with thousands of angry phone calls from privacy advocates around the country. On Wednesday afternoon, the offending provisions were gutted from the bill. The overall bill passed, but without giving the government new power to subpoena your electronic records -- or force third parties to turn over that information. Thank you for your help, and please stay posted for further privacy updates. Sincerely, Steve Dasbach National Director Libertarian Party = == ### The press is the hired agent of a monied system and set up for no other purpose than to tell lies wherever its interests are involved. -The Letters of Henry Adams, Vol. II, p. 99. p244 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Chernomyrdin to sue Dubya...
There's got to be alot behind all of this.. David Goldman Chernomyrdin to sue George W. Bush Friday, 27 October 2000 0:59 (ET) Chernomyrdin to sue George W. Bush MOSCOW, Oct. 26 (UPI) -- Former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, accused by U.S. Republican presidential candidate Gov. George W. Bush of pocketing IMF loans to Russia, intends to take the matter to court, his aides said Thursday. Chernomyrdin had dismissed the allegations and demanded a formal apology from Bush, who made the damaging statement during a televised debate on Oct. 11 with Democratic presidential candidate Vice President Al Gore. Chernomyrdin said he intends to take the matter to court to clear his name and business reputation. Aides to the ex-premier said Chernomyrdin was consulting lawyers and will press legal action, regardless of the outcome of the Nov. 7 U.S. presidential election. The ex-premier's aides said Chernomyrdin had written to Russia's Prosecutor General regarding the allegations, which threaten to turn into a diplomatic headache between Moscow and Washington. -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/16/_/475667/_/972656684/"BClick Here!/B/A -_-
[CTRL] RadTimes # 83
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 83 October, 2000 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- QUOTE: "What we have is not a market economy. It is a corporately planned and controlled economy." "We have a world in which a handful of corporations, detached from any link to any place or community, have extended their power beyond the reach of most governments." "The U.S. has a centrally-planned economy, in many ways more tightly controlled than any state-planned economy that we have seen." "The political system ... [is] enormously expensive. The only way you can raise the money to win an election is by appealing to corporate interests, which then means you're in their debt and have to focus on their agendas." --David Korten, economist and internationalist --- Contents: --- --Protest the Inauguration of the Next President --TV's Mr. President arrested at Vandenberg protest --Directory of Transnational Corporations --Extravagant Evil and the I.M.F. --Gun Control Refresher Course --Chumbawamba Sample Metallica, Madonna, Dre on Free Download --Anarchist Question And Answer --- Begin stories: --- Protest the Inauguration of the Next President A CALL TO: Protest the Inauguration of the Next President SATURDAY, JANUARY 20, 2001, WASHINGTON, D.C. On January 20, 2001, the next president of the U.S will be inaugurated in Washington D.C. Whether it's George W. Bush or Al Gore, one thing is certain: executions will not stop. Whichever politicians come or go, police brutality and racial profiling remains. Thirty years after the Attica prison rebellion, the racist prison-industrial complex will continue to grow. More than 2 million people will observe Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday in U.S. prisons-including political prisoner Mumia Abu- Jamal, who waits with 4,000 others on death row. The people must make it clear to the next president that the death machine must stop. No more executions. Mumia Abu-Jamal must be granted a new trial or set free. We must stop the U.S. death machine around the world. The bullets bombs that have murdered and maimed hundreds of Palestinians are made in the USA. Ten years after the bombing of Iraq began on Jan. 16, 1991, the U.S. still maintains economic sanctions that have killed more than 1.2 million Iraqis. The Pentagon continues to plot another Vietnam war in Colombia, and to bomb the island of Vieques, Puerto Rico. Along with NATO, the U.S military machine forces colonial subjugation of the Balkans, and elsewhere in the world. We must stop capitalist deathonomics. U.S. transnational corporations and banks, along with their puppet institutions--the International Monetary Fund, World Bank and World Trade Organization-- continue to impose the death machine of globalization on the world, reaping super-profits from their exploitation of the planet while more than a billion people go hungry, and at least 2 billion live in abject poverty. Hundreds of millions of people throughout Africa, Asia, Latin America and right here in the U.S. will continue to die because capitalist greed has denied them healthcare, shelter, jobs and other human needs. STOP THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY STOP THE LEGAL LYNCHING OF MUMIA ABU-JAMAL STOP THE PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX STOP U.S. POLICE TERROR-AT HOME ACROSS THE WORLD STOP THE GLOBALIZATION DEATH MACHINE Only the people can stop it - Fill the streets of D.C. Call issued by: International Action Center, International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia Abu-Jamal; the MOVE Organization; Millions for Mumia; Free Mumia Abu-Jamal Coalition, NYC; Refuse and Resist; Korea Truth Commission; The Palestine Right To Return Coalition ( NY-NJ Based Al-Awda) and a growing list of endorsers. International Action Center National Peoples Campaign/Millions for Mumia 39 West 14th Street, #206 New York, NY 10011 212 633-6646 212 633-2889 FAX email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iacenter.org http://www.peoplescampaign.org CHECK OUT THE NEW SITE www.mumia2000.org --- TV's Mr. President arrested at Vandenberg protest October 7 2000 By Rick Tuttle Lompoc Record Staff America's television president, Martin Sheen, was among 23 peace activists arrested Saturday during a non-violent but tense standoff at Vandenberg Air Force Base's main gate - the culmination of local protests against a developing national missile defense system and the perceived "militarization of space." Sheen, the veteran actor
[CTRL] A well-organized campaign of fear and loathing
-Caveat Lector- Do it with joy!! John C. Stauber 3318 Gregory Street, Madison, WI 53711 Phone(608)238-7376 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- REJECT FEAR AND LOATHING ON GORE'S CAMPAIGN TRAIL John Stauber * *John Stauber is the co-author of the book Toxic Sludge Is Good For You: Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry A well-organized campaign of fear and loathing is attempting to frighten people from voting their own consciences. Democratic big business lobbyist Toby Moffett, a Monsanto vice president until recently and now a consultant, is one of the so-called progressives coordinating the effort to attack Nader and his supporters. Moffett and the rest of Monsanto's lobbyists love Al Gore because, while Gore did not invent the internet, he is the techno-pol responsible for shoving Monsanto's inadequately tested, possibly dangerous and definitely unlabeled genetically engineered foods down the throats of American eaters. Now Toby is trying to shove Al Gore down voters' throats but that's going over about as well as milk from Monsanto's hormone-injected cows. Unfortunately others less identified with corporate power are also hammering away at the venerable Green Party candidate as a "spoiler," although just days ago Ralph Nader was too marginal to debate. Prominent middle-aged figures obviously much too wedded to the Democratic party and its contributors, well-known names from Hollywood and the labor, minority, feminist and environmental NGO world, are furiously stumping for Gore. One hopes that as they barnstorm from Madison to Seattle to Eugene to San Francisco they grab some of those airplane barf bags, because for true progressives to defend the Clinton/Gore record is indeed a queasy assignment. I agree that a Bush/Cheney administration would be bad news for most of what I personally hold sacred. However, voting for Al Gore is absolutely not the answer. Every four years there comes the less reprehensible corporate candidate. This year it's Al Gore playing the role. If he wins, in four years he would star in a repeat performance, and then maybe the esteemed senator of the insurance and prescription drug cartels, Joe Lieberman, would step up from his understudy position. No thanks, its time for change. I'm working and voting for Ralph Nader because he is giving voice and leadership to the growing pro-democracy movement needed to bust the stranglehold that corporations have over our lives and our system of government. If Nader were running as the DemocratBut of course, that would never happen because the system is so rigged that only a candidate beholden to corporate special interest money can today win either party's presidential nomination. Even if Bush wins the White House there is some light in that dark cloud.Nader has certainly galvanized the grassroots to confront and blunt either candidate's pro-business agenda, and if voters reject the Democratic ticket it might inspire some inside that party to re-think its partnerships with big business. Bush in the White House would also guarantee that four years from now we will not have to endure the apologists' excuses about how 'Yes, President Gore has been a disappointment but he had to compromise to win a second term. Re-elect him and he will move in our direction.' I'm joyfully working and casting my vote for Ralph Nader and the growing movement to reclaim American democracy. No matter who wins I will celebrate what the Nader/LaDuke campaign has accomplished in forcing the single biggest issue of our time -- corporate domination -- to the front burner of citizen awareness and action. Nader/LaDuke has succeeded in this despite a pittance of money, hostile news media awash in political advertising lucre, the enforced censorship that kept them out of the debates and now desperate outpourings of fear and loathing courtesy of corporate lobbyists for Gore such as Toby Moffett. Be warned of course that merely voting for anyone is not enough. Commit yourself to the understanding that the growing pro-democracy movement sparked by Ralph Nader's candidacy is just the beginning, and you are part of it. Commit yourself to personally helping it succeed with your time, sweat and contributions in the months and years ahead long after November 7th. --- == A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you
[CTRL] From the Strange bedfellows dept: GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads
-Caveat Lector- Friday October 27 11:59 AM ET GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads By LAURA MECKLER, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president. The ads by the Republican Leadership Council will begin airing Monday in Wisconsin, Oregon and Washington, all states that are part of Gore's base and where Nader is polling well. The group plans to spend more than $100,000 at first and hopes to raise more over the weekend. While the ads boost Nader, they are a clear attempt to help Bush. Gore's supporters fear that Nader, who is more liberal than either Bush or Gore, will throw the election to the Texas governor if voters who might otherwise vote for Gore vote for Nader instead. In a tight national race, one or two states could make the difference in who is elected president. The ads feature clips of Nader from a National Press Club speech on Tuesday, where he laid into both Bush and Gore, though the ad only includes his criticism of Gore. ``Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,'' Nader says. An announcer interjects: ``What's Al Gore's real record?'' Nader says: ``Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.'' Nader has been equally critical, if not more so, of Bush, calling him ``a big corporation running for president disguised as a person.'' But the RLC ads are a clear attempt to help Bush, not Nader. A Gore spokesman suggested that the ads may backfire. ``Voters are going to ask why these shadowy groups are running attack ads on behalf of George Bush,'' said Doug Hattaway. He added that there are stark differences between Bush and Gore on abortion and the environment, and ``people who are thinking about voting for Nader care deeply about those issues and would not want to see them put at risk by George Bush.'' Nader, running a low-budget campaign, is not airing any television commercials of his own and it's possible that the RLC will end up spending more on pro-Nader media that Nader himself. A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Nader's speeches. ``The tactics of the other two parties are not our concern,'' said spokeswoman Laura Jones. Asked if the campaign welcomed the outside help, she added: ``Not really because they (the ads) are misleading in that they don't indicate that we are campaigning against Al Gore and George W. Bush.'' Nader has had to repeatedly defend himself against people arguing that his candidacy will help Bush. He has responded that it makes little difference whether Bush or Gore is elected and has said he is running to give voters an alternative. ``We're building a progressive political movement. That's the most important thing,'' Nader said Friday on ABC's ``Good Morning America.'' ``Whether Gore or Bush gets into the White House doesn't mean that much, because the permanent corporate government in Washington is really determining policy.'' The Republican Leadership Council, a centrist GOP group, has been helpful to Bush before, airing ads during the Republican primaries critical of challenger Steve Forbes. Several members of the RLC board were early Bush supporters. The RLC ads will run initially in four markets: Eugene and Portland, Ore.; Madison, Wis., and Seattle. Mark Miller, the group's executive director, said the ads are partly a response to commercials being run by the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League, which argue that a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. ``Ralph Nader doesn't believe that,'' Miller said. ``Ralph Nader and his supporters are not backing down because they believe Al Gore has had numerous broken promises.'' Miller added that some of Nader's supporters have bragged that Nader has never had help from ``soft money,'' the unrestricted donations used by parties and interest groups. ``We'll put an end to that,'' Miller said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine's web site
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find the url for a webstie with info and links. Sincerely, Neil Brick This contains information on the CIA, False Memory, politics, etc. http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/ (You might want to turn off cookies before going to this site.) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Victory over secret searches bill!
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The overall bill passed, but without giving the government new power to subpoena your electronic records -- or force third parties to turn over that information. And now our records are all safe because we can trust the government to never to do anything to us not authorized by law? Well, maybe. But don't bet your life on it. Don't even bet the farm. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Conspiracy Journal
Conspiracy Journal - http://www.conspiracyjournal.com === * Conspiracy Journal * === http://www.conspiracyjournal.com Also: http://www.webufo.net To subscribe: email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will receive a verification email, please follow its directions. Welcome to another spky issue of your scariest dreams and weirdest fantasies - The Conspiracy Journal! This week we look at such unnerving stories as - weird water monsters in China - A strange blue glow at a nuclear processing plant in Kentucky - and the second part of C.A. Honeys "Miscellaneous Commentary" For those of you interested in other fascinating things by C.A. Honey, please email him at this address for more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ALSO!!! This is your LAST CHANCE to get the new book from Conspiracy Journal: "The Lost Journals of Nikola Tesla-HAARP, Chemtrails, and the Secret of Alternative 4" at our special price of only $12.95, plus $4.00 for shipping. So don't be left OUT! Get your copy TODAY - Before it is TOO LATE! Simply go to our secure order page at: https://www.safepage.com/mrufo and order your copy - DO IT NOW! ~ And Now, On With the Show! ! = - IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE DEPARTMENT - Blue Glow' Reported At Paducah Plant - Nuke Criticality May have been Observed A "blue glow" reported by workers at the Paducah Gaseous Diffusion Plant could indicate nuclear reactions occurred underground in a top-secret burial pit for atomic-weapons parts, according to an internal memo obtained by The Courier-Journal. The memo, written by a health physicist employed by the plant operator, says "a 'blue glow' that looked like 'blue fire' above the ground" was first observed in the early 1980s over the southwest corner of the C-746-F classified burial yard and was reportedly seen a number of times after that. Ray Carroll, a health physicist for the U.S. Enrichment Corp., wrote that the "blue glow" could be a type of radiation resulting from nuclear fission processes, and added, "If the cause is a fission source, personnel entering the area could potentially receive a lethal dose of radiation." But the U.S. Department of Energy's site manager at Paducah, Don Seaborg, said, "We don't have any indication" that a fission reaction occurred. He said that after receiving the memo last week, he had not been able to find supporting data, such as elevated radiation readings on the landfill's surface or worker exposure measurements. "That's the concern, if you have a blue glow, then that's indicative of a criticality and of course a major safety concern," Seaborg said. "My background experience tells me that it was unlikely something was going on of a criticality (nuclear reaction) nature. I'm bringing in the right people with the right certifications to verify that." The plant has been in the news since August 1999 when three employees filed a whistleblower lawsuit alleging that contamination and conditions were much worse than had been disclosed by former operators. A cleanup effort is underway. The Energy Department leases production facilities to the U.S. Enrichment Corp., a publicly traded company, but still owns the burial pit and other areas where radioactive and hazardous waste was dumped or stored during a half-century of enriching uranium for weapons and power plants. According to the memo, the burial yard was covered with five to nine feet of dirt at an undisclosed time after the first observations of a "blue glow." But it notes that there was another reported sighting in 1996, long after the earthen cover was applied. The glow has only been seen immediately after a heavy rain, when there was a mist or moisture in the air, the memo said. Carroll wrote that the glow could be Cerenkov radiation, a phenomenon in which charged radioactive particles from a fission reaction give off a blue glow in water. On the chance that a fission reaction is occurring, Carroll recommended barring employees from within 1,000 feet of the site and installing a continuous radiation monitor with an audible alarm and "a red warning light that can easily be read from a distance." Carroll also recommended taking core samples in the burial yard to determine if radioactive products of fission are present. "If these radio-isotopes are present, a much more extensive environmental remediation of the whole area will be required," he wrote. But GeorgAnn Lookofsky, a USEC spokeswoman, said yesterday that Carroll's safety recommendations had not been put into effect, because in radiation surveys of the area, "we haven't found anything to raise our concerns." She said Carroll wrote the memo after a plant employee raised concerns about the glow. There could be other explanations for the glow, according to Kimberlee J. Kearfott, a professor of nuclear engineering at the University of Michigan. For the glow to be from a fission
[CTRL] Timothy Leary Wuz Right!
-Caveat Lector- LSD guru Timothy Leary made fun of abductees By Paul Davids Date: 10/27/2000 URL: http://www.alienzoo.com/features/o/200010270001.cfm Paul Davids Itâs "Smash an Icon Week" here at FLYING SAUCERS OVER HOLLYWOOD, and so weâre decapitating Timothy Leary again. In 1997, Strand Releasing distributed a feature-length documentary film I directed (and produced with Todd Easton Mills) about the "Turn on, Tune in, Drop out" psychedelic 1960s leader that ended with a notorious scene of post-mortem decapitation for cryogenic preservation of the brain. That ending has now been video-streamed as a Halloween spectacular at www.ilooks.com. The film is called TIMOTHY LEARYâS DEAD, a title that comes from a line in the famous Moody Blues song about Leary called "Legend of a Mind." In the last year of Learyâs life, I conducted many hours of videotaped interviews with him, dressing him up in a stylish and appropriate green Nehru jacket for the occasion, as well as an elegant white suit. Leary, or "Dr. Tim" as his friends called him, abandoned a commitment to dressing cool long before that point, and for 365 days out of the year (and for almost all of his interviews) he basically wore one rumpled black and white jacket that had a psychedelic pattern. I changed that. In the interviews, we covered many of the nooks and crannies of his rabble-rousing life, from his Fighting Irishman youth and days as Harvardâs most eccentric and risk-taking psychology professor, through his days leading the League for Spiritual Discovery (LSD) at a mansion in Millbrook New York. Remember, Dr. Tim was on "the wrong side" in the Drug War - he advocated the responsible use of Psychedelic Vegetables, as he referred to them - and Richard Nixon declared him "The Most Dangerous Man Alive." We journeyed through his magic mushroom days in Mexico, his incarceration as a political / philosophical prisoner - and in one session we got around to the subject of flying saucers. Though Leary had blown his own mind countless times and could imagine infinite possibilities in our vast universe, he somehow still clung to the negative attitudes of orthodox, skeptical psychology regarding the subject of extraterrestrial flying saucers. Like most psychologists of his generation, he believed that life exists throughout infinite space. However, he stated in my film that he DOES NOT believe that extraterrestrial beings would "package alien beings in spaceships and send them hundreds of light years through space so that they could land in farm pastures and rape little old ladies in Iowa." That seemed to be the extent of his understanding of the alien abduction enigma. He was no Dr. John Mack of Harvard, thatâs for sure. And then he took a drag on his cigarette, paused for reflection and added: "But those little old ladies . . . theyâd LIKE to be raped by space aliens, wouldnât they? THATâs the point!" He actually didnât use the word "rape." He used another four-letter word for sex that begins with an "F" and ends with a "K" and which we canât print here at AlienZoo because weâre PG-13. TIMOTHY LEARYâS DEAD is a VERY irreverent movie. Timothy lived to blow peopleâs minds, and I realized that my film would never be seen by more than a handful of people if I didnât blow a few myself. I may have over-done it. Not only did the movie invite the wrath of the Establishment (the folks who were SUPPOSED to hate it), that mind-blowing final scene made me persona non grata with more than a few of Dr. Timâs most loyal followers. It seems they decided they loved me about as much as they loved G. Gordon Liddy the night he invaded Millbrook with a small army of narcs and arrested Leary for possession of a geranium plant (that Liddy thought might be marijuana). I took my unpopularity in stride. In the movie business, you learn to take your licks. And speaking of licks, our movie poster had a star on it that said LICK THIS POSTER. A few people did, thinking there was acid on it, and in Berkeley, the police methodically removed every single poster from the billboards and telephone poles. That is, every poster that was left after the Aging Hippies and gang-bangers swiped a bunch of them to eat. Dr. Tim's head To dramatize Timothyâs statements about alien abductions, I actually rented an alien costume from Sony Picturesâ Props department and went to the home of the publisher of UFO Library, who agreed to dress up like a little old lady. She put her hair up in curlers, powdered her hair gray and climbed into bed, where she read a UFO magazine. We then filmed a scene of me (as the alien) jumping on top of her in bed and (CENSORED) as we (CENSORED) up and down, the camera capturing every lurid instant of (CENSORED), while the bed springs squeaked and (CENSORED). We then showed me as the alien with the old Iowan lady in bed after sex, smoking a cigarette. So much for Dr. Leary on
[CTRL] All About HAARP
-Caveat Lector- http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/toc.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Creating False Memories
-Caveat Lector- Creating False Memories Elizabeth F. Loftus --http://faculty.w ashington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htm- In 1986 Nadean Cool, a nurse's aide in Wisconsin, sought therapy from a psychiatrist to help her cope with her reaction to a traumatic event experienced by her daughter. During therapy, the psychiatrist used hypnosis and other suggestive techniques to dig out buried memories of abuse that Cool herself had allegedly experienced. In the process, Cool became convinced that she had repressed memories of having been in a satanic cult, of eating babies, of being raped, of having sex with animals and of being forced to watch the murder of her eight-year-old friend. She came to believe that she had more than 120 personalities-children, adults, angels and even a duck-all because, Cool was told, she had experienced severe childhood sexual and physical abuse. The psychiatrist also performed exorcisms on her, one of which lasted for five hours and included the sprinkling of holy water and screams for Satan to leave Cool's body. When Cool finally realized that false memories had been planted, she sued the psychiatrist for malpractice. In March 1997, after five weeks of trial, her case was settled out of court for $2.4 million. Nadean Cool is not the only patient to develop false memories as a result of questionable therapy. In Missouri in 1992 a church counselor helped Beth Rutherford to remember during therapy that her father, a clergyman, had regularly raped her between the ages of seven and 14 and that her mother sometimes helped him by holding her down. Under her therapist's guidance, Rutherford developed memories of her father twice impregnating her and forcing her to abort the fetus herself with a coat hanger.The father had to resign from his post as a clergyman when the allegations were made public. Later medical examination of the daughter revealed, however, that she was still a virgin at age 22 and had never been pregnant. The daughter sued the therapist and received a $1-million settlement in 1996. About a year earlier two juries returned verdicts against a Minnesota psychiatrist accused of planting false memories by former patients Vynnette Hamanne and Elizabeth Carlson, who under hypnosis and sodium amytal, and after being fed misinformation about the workings of memory, had come to remember horrific abuse by family members. The juries awarded Hammane $2.67 million and Carlson $2.5 million for their ordeals. In all four cases, the women developed memories about childhood abuse in therapy and then later denied their authenticity. How can we determine if memories of childhood abuse are true or false? Without corroboration, it is very difficult to differentiate between false memories and true ones. Also, in these cases, some memories were contrary to physical evidence, such as explicit and detailed recollections of rape and abortion when medical examination confirmed virginity. How is it possible for people to acquire elaborate and confident false memories? A growing number of investigations demonstrate that under the right circumstances false memories can be instilled rather easily in some people. My own research into memory distortion goes back to the early 1970s, when I began studies of the "misinformation effect." These studies show that when people who witness an event are later exposed to new and misleading information about it, their recollections often become distorted. In one example, participants viewed a simulated automobile accident at an intersection with a stop sign. After the viewing, half the participants received a suggestion that the traffic sign was a yield sign. When asked later what traffic sign they remembered seeing at the intersection, those who had been given the suggestion tended to claim that they had seen a yield sign. Those who had not received the phony information were much more accurate in their recollection of the traffic sign. My students and I have now conducted more than 200 experiments involving over 20,000 individuals that document how exposure to misinformation induces memory distortion. In these studies, people "recalled" a conspicuous barn in a bucolic scene that contained no buildings at all, broken glass and tape recorders that were not in the scenes they viewed, a white instead of a blue vehicle in a crime scene, and Minnie Mouse when they actually saw Mickey Mouse. Taken together, these studies show that misinformation can change an individual's recollection in predictable and sometimes very powerful ways. Misinformation has the potential for invading our memories when we talk to other people, when we are suggestively interrogated or when we read or view media coverage about some event that we may have experienced ourselves. After more than two decades of exploring the power of misinformation, researchers have learned a great deal about the conditions that make
[CTRL] The Price Of Bad Memories
-Caveat Lector- The Price of Bad Memories Elizabeth F. Loftus http://faculty.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/price.htm -- -- After hundreds of articles on recovered memory therapy, one might have thought there was not much left to say. But a November 1997 front-page article in the New York Times headlined '"Memory' Therapy Leads to a Lawsuit and Big Settlement" suggested that the repressed memory controversy had broken new records (Belluck 1997). The article reported on the case of Patricia Burgus, whose family had accepted a $10.6 million settlement, the biggest to date in any lawsuit accusing mental health professionals of implanting false memories into the minds of patients. Burgus had been referred to a large Chicago hospital for severe postpartum depression. Burgus alleged that while she was undergoing psychiatric therapy from 1986 to 1992, she was persuaded that she had been part of a satanic cult, had been abused by numerous men, had abused her own children, and had had sex with John F. Kennedy. Drugs and hypnosis helped her "recall" that she had cannibalized people. At one point, her husband brought in some hamburger meat from a family picnic, and the therapists agreed to test the meat to see if it was human. Burgus was diagnosed with multiple personality disorder (MPD) and developed numerous "alters" (alternative personalities). Even today, Burgus has trouble remembering what they were, in part because her therapist would get her alters mixed up with those of his other patients. On the fourth day of her deposition, in December 1996, Burgus was trying to recall some of the alters for the attorney who was questioning her (Burgus v. Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center): Q: Who did he ask to come out? A : Little - Little One. Q : Little Little One or just Little One? A : I'm sorry. I stuttered. Little One. He - oh, just a second. There was . . . something called - let me think - guardian keeper or - I later found out that was someone else's personality, a different patient. Q : Oh, he was mixing other people's personalities in with yours? A : Yes. She went on to explain that this would happen a couple times a month. Then she relayed the following unusual therapeutic activity: A : Well, there was one where he played a tape recording to me of someone else's session, and it was a woman speaking in a child's voice. And later in the session that I was listening to, the person switched back to a voice that I recognized on the unit and realized that that was not me on the tape. Burgus eventually realized that she did not have MPD after all. She had not been an abused devil-worshipping cannibal. She had not abused her young children, who had also been hospitalized for nearly three years because doctors thought her disorder might be genetic. She sued her former therapists, or mind "hackers," as they were called in a recent New Yorker piece (Andersen 1997). The case was settled on the day that the trial was expected to commence, six years after the case had been filed, and eleven years after Burgus began her questionable therapy. Of the $10.6 million, the medical center agreed to pay approximately $3 million and the psychiatrists agreed to pay the remainder. Within weeks of the Burgus settlement, there was another "first" in the long, dreary repressed memory controversy. A federal grand jury in Houston, Texas, returned an indictment against the administrator and four caregivers at the former Spring Shadows Glen Hospital. The criminal charges accused the mental health professionals (psychologists, psychiatrists, psychotherapists) of exaggerating diagnoses and overstating the need for expensive treatment in order to unjustly collect insurance payments. The accusations are that the professionals convinced patients that they had participated in satanic cults and that they had MPD. In the words of the indictment: "It was further part of the conspiracy that the defendants and others would and did fraudulently treat the insured patients for MPD caused by unsubstantiated and unrealistic allegations and abuses, including satanic ritual abuse and cult activity, while at the same time creating medical records to substantiate such treatment" (United States v. Peterson et al., 8). Moreover, the indictment alleged that the defendants "did fraudulently elicit statements of satanic ritual abuse and cult activities from the admitted patients, through nontraditional treatment modalities, including the use of leading or suggestive questions during therapy sessions while the patients were: under hypnosis; under the influence of a drug or combination of drugs; isolated from their families, friends, and the outside world . . ." (United States v. Peterson et al., 8). While the case against the Spring Shadows Glen professionals is believed to be the first federal indictment involving allegations that therapists instilled false
[CTRL] REU: Vietnam Decries Call for Clinton to Meet Dissidents
-Caveat Lector- Friday October 27 7:34 AM ET Vietnam Decries Call for Clinton to Meet Dissidents HANOI (Reuters) - Vietnam's police newspaper on Friday described a call for U.S President Clinton to meet dissidents when he visits Vietnam next month as unreasonable and irrelevant. The Cong An Nhan Dan (People's Police) newspaper said the call had been made in an overseas Vietnamese newspaper Ngay Nay (Today). ``That request is unreasonable and irrelevant,'' the Hanoi paper said adding that all those in jail or under surveillance in Vietnam had been charged and convicted according to the law. They included people who had plotted against the Communist regime and undermined national unity ``under the guise of religion or 'free intellectuals,''' it said. The article was the latest to appear in the state press slamming calls for Clinton to press for an improvement in Hanoi's human rights record during his mid-November visit. Earlier this week Hanoi, described such a call by five U.S. senators, including Vietnam veterans John McCain and Charles Robb, as interference in its internal affairs. Human rights groups say that while Vietnam's rights record has improved in recent years, with the release of tens of thousands of political detainees and re-education camp inmates, dissidents were now subjected to less overt harassment. This includes constant surveillance and controls on freedom of movement or ability to work and an ever-present threat of imprisonment for those who go too far in challenging the authority of the ruling Communist Party. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REU: Clinton Has Not Yet Made Decision on N.Korea Visit
-Caveat Lector- Friday October 27 2:06 PM ET Clinton Has Not Yet Made Decision on N.Korea Visit WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Clinton said on Friday he still had ``substantial concerns'' about North Korea's missile program and had not yet decided whether to visit Pyongyang as part of an Asian trip next month. ``We still have substantial concerns in the missile area,'' Clinton told reporters. ``We are working on it and I haven't made a decision.'' Secretary of State Madeleine Albright held talks in Pyongyang this week with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il, who according to a senior U.S. official gave her a personal pledge not to launch another long-range missile. U.S. officials have hinted that Clinton may wait until U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Robert Einhorn talks with North Korean officials about its missile program next week before making a decision on a visit. Clinton will travel to Brunei and Vietnam next month. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Nader Greens Call For Suspending U.S. Aid to Israel
A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\10/27 http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] LATEST PALESTINE UPDATE Heavy clashes took place today throughout the West Bank and Gaza with at least 250 Palestinians injured and 4 Palestinians killed. A strict internal Israeli-imposed closure remains in place throughout the West Bank and Gaza. The Israeli military attacked Palestinian residential areas in Beit Sahour, Beit Jalla, and Ramallah with tanks, heavy machine gun ammunition, and grenades. More than 5000 Palestinians have now been shot by the Israeli occupation army in the past month. Taking into consideration population sizes, this would be the equivalent in the U.S. of nearly the entire population of Washington, DC being shot in just the past month alone. NADER AND THE GREENS CALL FOR SUSPENDING AID TO ISRAEL MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 10/19: The world of politics is a complicated place. Vying for attention as their poll numbers slip Ralph Nader and the Green Party have taken an usual public stand in the U.S. by calling for "suspension" of aid to Israel. It's clearly a move designed to appeal to Arab and Muslim groups, even though there has been considerable "liberal" Jewish support for Nader around the country. The Green Party's goal is to achieve a 5% national vote as that is the threshold which would put the party on the ballot nationwide four years from now and provide millions in public finance money for the campaign. The largely undiscussed aspect of all this is that Ralph Nader has been in public life since the 1960's, is of Arab Lebanese ancestry, but has throughout most of his life nearly totally avoided issues involving the Middle East. Lebanon went through a terrible civil war, was invaded and occupied, but Nader was not involved and did not speaking about these major historical developements at that time. The same can be said when it comes to the Gulf War and to the original Intifada -- no one remembers any significant statement or action taken by Nader when these issues were the major ones involving the U.S. and the Middle East. In short, the whole Middle East political thicket is one it appears Ralph Nader has spent most of his life carefully avoiding. Some say it was a calculated decision by Nader not to draw attention to his Arab ancestry and not to run the risk of being targeted by the powerful Jewish organizations and Israelis interests, thus freeing Nader to pursue his public safety, environmental, and anti-corporate agenda. Of course Nader has no chance of winning the Presidency, and few if any Green Party candidates are expected to actually come to Washington as elected officials. But even so, by pushing forward the basic issue of "suspending aid to Israel", the subject itself has been to some degree further legitimized. A few isolated American Jews have at times called for a serious re-examination of the U.S. relationship with Israel, and a "suspension of aid" to Israel, but this has not been done in recent years in a coherent, credible, or sustained way. Back during the first Palestinian Intifada, a group of American Jews -- mostly professors, journalists, and professionals -- did organize as "The Jewish Committee on the Middle East". During the years of the Intifada, from 1988 through 1991, JCOME did take out dozens of full page ads in THE NATION, THE NEW YORK REVIEW OF BOOKS, THE PROGRESSIVE, and other intellectual publications. A series of about 20 creative ads and Statements opposing Israeli policies and calling for a suspension of aid to Israel were published by JCOME during these years and a one-hour video titled "We Dare To Speak", whose theme was suspending aid to Israel, was shown throughout the country on local cable access TV Channels in 1992. But the organization has not been active since that time. The small country of Israel receives about 20% of all U.S. foreign aid to countries throughout the world. Aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan -- the two Arab countries that have signed a peace treaty with Israel -- makes up about 35% of all U.S. foreign aid. NADER'S GREEN PARTY CALLS FOR HALT OF AID TO ISRAEL GADFLY CHARGES GORE, BUSH "TAKING SIDES" FOR ISRAEL By NACHA CATTAN THE FORWARD - 27 October: Ralph Nader's Green Party called this week for a suspension of United States aid to Israel and blamed the Jewish state for the current violence in the Middle East. The statement paralleled a series of recent declarations by Mr. Nader,
