[CTRL] June 25, 2001: TWA 800 CONTROVERSY HEATS UP
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related New Paradigms Posts at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) Subject: June 25, 2001: TWA 800 CONTROVERSY HEATS UP Date: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:35 PM TWA 800 controversy heats up Jack Cashill WorldNetDaily.com Monday, June 25, 2001 On a warm June evening in Kansas City, the historic home of TWA and the current site of its huge overhaul base, a group of 75 or so airline pilots watched the documentary Silenced: Flight 800 and the Subversion of Justice in stunned horror. Afterwards, not a one among them, either publicly or privately, challenged the video's thesis that TWA Flight 800 had indeed been shot down. Offered instead were corroborating details, particularly from angry TWA pilots, about the money trail and the inexplicable Pentagon visits of then TWA CEO Jeff Erickson. Said one TWA pilot: 90 percent of us believe there was a government cover-up. From the Boeing community in Seattle the response has been much the same. Writes one Boeing engineer, a man who had spent countless hours helping analyze TWA 800 on Boeing's Cray Supercomputers, I brought it (Silenced) to work today and showed it during lunch to eight of my fellow Boeing workers. The room was deathly quiet the entire time. ... My impression then was a missile strike, and it is even more so today. Even more troubling is the response of Mike Wire, the Philadelphia millwright on whose presumed testimony the CIA based its notorious animation of TWA 800 rocketing upwards like a missile: . . . [...] This is only an excerpt -- read the complete news story at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23367 Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. Panchaang for 5 Ashadh 5102, Monday, June 25, 2001: Vrisha Nama Samvatsare Dakshinaya Nartana Ritau Mithuna Mase Shukla Pakshe Indu Vasara Yuktayam Magha-Poorvaphalguni Nakshatra Vajra-Siddhi Yoga Balava-Kaulava Karana Panchamee-Shasthee Yam Tithau Hindu Holocaust Museum http://www.mantra.com/holocaust Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy http://www.hindu.org http://www.hindunet.org Islam and Muslims http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/29/01 12:14:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 29 Jun 01, at 1:39, Tito Hammond wrote: Bush even set up the economy for Clinton so that those who are ignorant would believe the booming economy was created by Clinton. I seriously doubt this is true. Bush created a mini recession that continued into the early Clinton years. Steve What is your source for this recession? http://www.gserc.usm.edu/united_states_economy.htm The United States Economy Growth in Output The decade of the 90âs has been one of unprecedented growth and prosperity for the United States economy. Since the most recent recession that ended in the first quarter of 1991, real GDP (inflation-adjusted value of the nation's output) has grown constantly at an average rate of more than 3% per year. Since the end of 1995 real GDP growth has been above 4% per year consistently. Reflecting similar strength in the nationâs output of products and services, the index of industrial production has risen at an average annual rate of approximately 3.7% since 1990. Growth in output has generated robust growth in personal income, which has grown at an average annualized rate of 5.28% during the decade. Growth in demand for products at the retail level has kept pace with total retail sales increasing at more than 5.5% per year since 1990. Labor Markets With such vigorous growth in the nationâs production of output during the 1990s, it is not surprising that employment growth was similarly strong. While the labor force grew at an average rate of 1.14% per year, actual employment grew by more than 1.3% per year for the same period. That resulted in persistent declines in the unemployment rate from a high of 7.5% in 1992 to 4.2% for 1999. Historical perspective has taught expert and casual observers alike that periods of high GDP growth and low unemployment cannot be sustained without abnormally high (and accelerating) inflation rates. Price Stability Inflationary pressures that were expected, especially during the latter half of the '90s did not materialize. Using percentage changes in the GDP price deflator, the broadest measure of inflation, the rate fell from almost 4% in 1990 to less than 3% through 1995, and under 2% for the remaining years of the decade. Inflation in consumer prices was similarly low, also falling below 2% during 1997-98. Nearly a decade of sustained high growth in output and employment combined with stable prices and full employment represents a rare occurrence in our nation's economic history. How does one explain the phenomenal performance ? Productivity Growth Using the benefit of hindsight, the answer to that question is reasonably clear. For the production of goods and services, the supply side, the key to growth has been increasing productivity, enhanced by accelerating technological advancement. Analysis of figures in Table 1, shows productivity growth measured by the percentage change in output per hour of work was positive throughout the '90s. During the final four years of the decade, productivity grew at an average rate of almost 3% per year. The ability to produce increasing levels of output per hour of work at home and the availability of products produced at low cost abroad helped to relieve inflationary pressures that otherwise would have been present. Consumer Demand Demand for products and services remained strong , buoyed by spending by consumers who made purchases out of rising incomes and even more rapidly rising stores of wealth. As cited above, personal income rose at more than 5.25% per year, and gains in wealth were even more impressive. The SP 500 Index, for example rose from approximately 267 at the end of 1989 to 1469 by the end of 1999, an average increase of more than 21% per year for the entire period. That exponential rise in the value of equity shares affected both the demand for products and the ability to produce them more inexpensively. Additional household wealth not only stimulated additional spending for big ticket items such as housing and SUVs, but also it made financing readily available to firms, allowing them to introduce new technologies to the marketplace. Summary For the U.S. economy, the 1990s was a decade of robust growth in output supported by equally robust productivity growth based on technological advancement and spending based on the wealth effect. From the macroeconomic perspective, it was a period during which most of the economic news was very good. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout
Re: [CTRL] Hidden truths of Lake Vostok excite scientists and ranters
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/28/01 8:20:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps but I would have thought them long run over and destroyed by the Elder Things and the Shoggoths come back from the Mountains of Madness! Good Point! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] World Court claims U.S. jurisdiction
This is almost funny - jurisdiction in US? A California Court doesn't even have jurisdiction in say a Court in Texas or Ohio? The only person who ever took this Court seriously, was Charles Manson and his followers? Someday the fertilizer business will be thriving. Now seems there are some war criminal charges pending against Albright, Clinton, etc., etc., etc. somewhere; however, if these world leaders want to try themselves in War Crimes Courts I will not object until the lot of them are executed aat sunrise - for tomorrow is another day? Saba World Court claims U.S. jurisdiction http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=3618 June 28, 2001 World Court claims U.S. jurisdiction By Betsy Pisik THE WASHINGTON TIMES NEW YORK -- The International Court of Justice yesterday criticized the state of Arizona for executing a German national in defiance of its wishes, insisting in its most explicit language that ICJ orders are binding on U.S. and other national courts. American authorities were scrambling yesterday to understand the consequences. They could not say whether the judgment would open the United States to financial claims from Germany, or whether the ruling would have any material impact on the U.S. legal system. The case presented complex issues and the decision requires careful study, said State Department spokesman Philip Reeker. We are undertaking a close and careful review of it in its entirety. The ICJ, also known as the World Court, had previously criticized the United States for breaching the Vienna Convention by failing to meet its obligation to notify a consulate when foreign nationals were charged with crimes. In March 1999, Arizona executed Walter LaGrand, an indigent German national who with his brother was convicted of fatally stabbing a bank manager during a botched robbery in 1982. At the request of Germany, the Hague-based World Court issued a provisional order -- a sort of injunction -- ordering Arizona not to execute him until it could make a final ruling on the matter. LaGrand was executed, as scheduled, the following day. The court criticized the U.S. solicitor general and the governor of Arizona for treating its provisionary order as mere exhortation. Because the court can take more than two years to decide a case, these provisional orders are most often injunctions, intended to freeze the action until the court can rule. By failing to take all measures at its disposal to ensure that Walter LaGrand was not executed pending the [ICJ's] final decision ... the United States breached the obligation incumbent upon it, the judges wrote in a majority opinion. The ICJ hears disputes between nations. Its decisions are considered binding and can only be appealed through the U.N. Security Council. Yesterday's ruling essentially reinforced that. This is an interesting step forward in terms of the ICJ asserting itself, said Lee Casey, a former Justice Department lawyer and expert on international law. It shows that the court is being more assertive than it has been in the past, and given where we are in the development of international law and these new criminal courts, that's important. Mr. Casey said the ICJ is clearly concerned that the U.S. government did not do enough to compel the state of Arizona to comply with its order. But the federal government doesn't necessarily have the authority to do that. In a previous case involving foreign nationals on death row, then-Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright appealed to the Supreme Court to halt the execution of a Paraguayan rapist and murderer in Northern Virginia. The local jurisdiction proceeded with the execution as scheduled. State Department officials have acknowledged that the Vienna Convention was violated in the LaGrand case, and say that a sweeping program is under way to educate state and local jurisdictions on consular notification. We think consular notification is important for Americans abroad and we take it very seriously, Mr. Reeker said yesterday. We recognize that we have to provide consular notification to foreign nationals in the United States. American lawyers argued at The Hague two years ago that the trial was fair and that the LaGrands had ample time -- nearly 15 years -- to run through appeals in four different courts. Nor is Germany claiming its innocence. Karl and Walter LaGrand were born in Germany but moved to the United States as toddlers. Their mother married an American serviceman, and they are said to have had no accent. In 1982, the brothers panicked during a robbery
Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullibleLiberalsandPalestinianpropaga...
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/23/2001 2:08:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where do you people get the audacity to point fingers at ANYBODY while supporting the PLO and Yassir Arafat. What astonishing hypocrisy. Even from Liberals. I have a really tough time trying to figure out why Arafat is so much worse than Begin and Sharon: I know which side you're on, but don't you have just the slightest niggling of an idea that maybe these guys have a lot in common. Prudy Yes I do Prudy. All elites are scumbags by definiton. The difference is in how the scumbags use their power and against whom. Sharon nor any of the other Israelis that I know of, ever pocketted the money sent to keep their own people alive. Secondly, The Israelis never had a policy of killing civilian foreign nationals arbitrarily. Only those working for their enemies. This does not include mistakes which were made from time to time as was the case in Lillihammer where they assasinated a waiter who looked like one of the killers in the Munich Massacre. The Palestinians NEVER had decent leaders. That's one of the reasons they are in the shape they're in today. That's not anybody's fault but their own. Now they are going to pay dearly for the immense stupidity of Yassir Arafat. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] World Court claims U.S. jurisdiction
-Caveat Lector- This does lead to a bit of confusion but I think it makes sense in this order: No foreign court or international body can have any influence on a domestic court case involving a US citizen who committed a crime on US soil. Also, having traveled to Africa and South America I know that any citizen, regardless of nationality, is subject to the laws and regulations of the country they are in (with some exceptions made for diplomats) as well as the judicial system of that country. Now according to the article: The ICJ hears disputes between nations. Its decisions are considered binding and can only be appealed through the U.N. Security Council. Yesterday'sruling essentially reinforced that. This would indicate that we have signed some sort of treaty to abide by the ICJ rulings when legal issues in the US involve a foreign citizen. And it would indicate other signatories to the treaty would also abide by these court rulings when involving an American in their court systems. I don't have a problem with that as these would be unique cases such as the case of the German national who was executed. It makes sense that Germany would protest the execution of one of its citizens by us as they no longer support the death penalty and subsequently natural for an international court to want to suspend the sentence for further review. We're pretty isolated when it comes to the death penalty, most other nations have abandoned it. Here is a question that arises from this for me. There are two prominent instances of American's being held in foreign territories which I am curious if the ICJ had any influence or made any review of. There was the American business man who was held in Russia on charges of stealing information regarding either their submarines or torpedoes/missiles. (Sorry for the ambiguity I don't have any references nearby) He was charged, sentenced and then released. Did ICJ have any involvement here. If I remember the material he allegedly stole was already public record. There is also an American woman who is being held in Peru whose government claims she was a member of the Shining Path movement and involved in terrorist activities. Her appeal was recently turned over and she is still in a mountain top prison down there. Anyone able to expand on this? Thanks Steve -- From: Aleisha Saba Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] World Court claims U.S. jurisdiction Message: World Court claims U... This is almost funny - jurisdiction in US? A California Court doesn't even have jurisdiction in say a Court in Texas or Ohio? The only person who ever took this Court seriously, was Charles Manson and his followers? Someday the fertilizer business will be thriving. Now seems there are some war criminal charges pending against Albright, Clinton, etc., etc., etc. somewhere; however, if these world leaders want to try themselves in War Crimes Courts I will not object until the lot of them are executed aat sunrise - for tomorrow is another day? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Animal Rights, Research Wrongs (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Junkscience.com - www.junkscience.com New from JunkScience.com, http://www.junkscience.com Animal Rights, Research Wrongs By Steven Milloy, Fox News June 29, 2001 Actress Mary Tyler Moore this week movingly challenged a U.S. Senate subcommittee to do more in the struggle against juvenile diabetes. Ms. Moore suffers from juvenile diabetes and chairs the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation's Children's Congress. But another of Ms. Moore's charitable affiliations People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is trying to block the type of research efforts she so desperately advocates and has even branded her own organization unworthy of financial backing for its support of biomedical research... The full column is at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,28412,00.html Steve Milloy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Peace Treaty of Versailles
Here is a peace treaty; now USA made a lot of treaties with the indians, but did they ever keep them? Israel and PLO - well this stuff has been going on for 2,000 years and they say things change? Now is almost humorous for all these leaders are being charged with war crimes? This country has not be in war since WWII? Any of the wars legal? Used to be you declared a war - so is Israel question, are these civil wars not subject to world wide courts claiming to hold jurisdiction over the whole wide world - my god no wonder the creator of Superman had him killed off when he got into the World Peace business. Today it is illegal for a dog to run at large; if the dog does not have a owner, it is murdered; if it does have an owner, someday they will murder the owner So now all these World Leaders are being charged with War Crimes..should we fan the flames or will it be someday we will have to save Clinton's worthless hide from big time courts with no jurisdiction? But to think our Congress or whatnotso have entered into all these agreements without our ocnsent and/or knowledge and it seems without our vote? Diplomatic immunity? What about that Chinese Embassy we blew up and how is that for diplomatic immunity. What is a civil war as opposed to - well what is a declared war, for that is a legal war? What are we doing fighting in Civil Wars for foreign countries or with them - you can lose your citizenship doing such things. So if they want to take Clinton and Sharon and Albright and try them in a Kangeroo Court should I complain. Can't you see them dragging Clinton off to a War Crimes Court? Think anybody would give a crap? Why is this thing so funny to me.it is like my former husband - once he told me he was king in this house and when he landed in Divorce Court he still believed it? Saba http://library.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/versailles.html
[CTRL] Fwd: TREATIES
So here Steve Surani and consider what JFK had going for him with Russia sending missiles to Cuba? So JFK backed down the great Russian Leadertoday it was reported Russia has a system like Bush wants America to protect its citizens. Now if the UN has its way, they will disarm America Oh but there is something much more deadlier is there not - a War on AIDS.we are to fight AIDS.yet we are to accept the enemy into our schools and boy scouts for believe me I truly believe AIDS is being used as a weapon for war - peaceful genocide. Like little puppies taken to the pound - the little mutts are put to sleep - like cattle being slaughtered around the world for oh, they have a disease even though it is reported most of these cattle did not have to die. We are a Nation of Sheep.well now and then a black sheep comes along, who like myself takes the less traveled roads and do not fall down on all fours before implied authority. Baa, Baa, Baa. Like Black Sheep of old, never liked the Judas sheep - Saba Ever know a treaty that was not broken - ask American Indian. http://www.dpi.anl.gov/dpi2/hist_docs/treaties/treaties.htm
[CTRL] Sounds like a dangerous situation.... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Sounds like a dangerous situation http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=3588 You lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink! [ FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES - NON COPYRIGHT ] Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:03:37 - From: Mary - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Patterns That Alarm Me ... Dear Friends -- As usual, I am sending this post to my address, with blind copies to a long list of friends and associates. The blind copies are to keep others from adding your email address to their list of contacts, and to protect the general confidentiality of your email addresses. If you want to be removed from my list, please let me know. The purpose of this post is to inform you of a series of actions and events that seem to be coming together into a huge and alarming scenario. I don't want to sound too radical and conspiracy-oriented, but I feel this information is so important that I am going to pass it around. To some of you, this post will sound totally bazaar. You will think I am several slices short of a sandwich. Others will think this post is confirming all their worst fears. All I can say is that the facts that I am reporting to you are true. You can draw any conclusions you want. And I am drawing some conclusions for you. PLEASE NOTE: my conclusions are not the only opinions on these facts. I am not claiming that my conclusions are the only accurate conclusions. I am, however, saying that my conclusions are based on the following facts, plus many more that I have not included or cannot include in this post. And I believe there is enough smoke here to call the fire department. This post will be a little long, even for me. But I believe it is important to let you people know what I have been seeing and hearing over the past year that has me VERY CONCERNED! Please read it! Afterwards, you are free to draw any conclusions you want. This is, after all, a free America. For the moment, anyway? First, let me say that almost 30 years ago, I had my securities license and was trained to watch stock patterns so I could make good recommendations before certain stocks would rise in price. At that time there were a number of stock market patterns that were well established in their accuracy, and these patterns were given names. One of the earliest and most documented patterns was the War and Peace cycle. This cycle or pattern included several factors, but was most obvious by watching the steel industry - specifically stock price movement, manufacturing activities, raw materials inventory levels, and insider trading in those stocks. Most analysts downplayed the War and Peace cycle because it was considered political and because it seemed to make you look like a warmonger. Yet I believe it was one of the best established, well-documented and most accurate patterns in the stock market. However, the War and Peace cycle was only accurate in the periods leading up to military actions.. The War and Peace cycle is going through the roof right now. Having been out of the securities industry for a long time, I have not been watching these stocks for years. And the steel industry in America has been at a standstill for almost 30 years. Stock prices have moved almost none at all, and no insiders held any shares to speak of. Yet, in the last 6 months to a year, almost all American steel companies have seen a significant rise in their values -- more than any seen in the last 30 years. Some companies, such as Bethlehem Steel and Gibraltar Steel have risen as much as 400% over the past few months. Further, their shares are ending up in insiders' portfolios in alarming amounts. Lately, there have been several well-known analysts who have pointed out that the War and Peace stocks are showing surprising activity, with some claiming the patterns are as alarming as just before W.W.II broke out in Europe. Almost 2 weeks ago, I heard a short discussion of the steel and war-oriented heavy manufacturing companies, with the analysts giving a buy recommendation for the first time since the 1970s. They made no mention of any military action, but they sure took notice of unusual raw materials levels and insider trading. One of the group of commentators suggested that somet hing was happening, but no one offered any real suggestions as to why the unusual corporate and insider activities. They did, however, report that there was no obvious activity anywhere in the world that would justify this increase in stock value or increase in share ownership among insiders. Of course, it is always possible that our leaders are gearing up for war. Most of you have received posts from me in the past encouraging you to watch and pray for the Mid-East conflict and the China/Taiwan conflict. It seems at this point probable that one or both of these problems will escalate into war in the near future. It is possible that this rise in the War and Peace index is a result of these pending
[CTRL] Fwd: Lawyers' Committee on Nuclear Policy - LCNP.org
What - these guys again? Lawyers Committee on Nuclear Policy? So, first let us kill all the lawyers.. Saba Kill All the Lawyers Committee http://www.lcnp.org/
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: TREATIES
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Thanks for sending me a link to a list of treaties on various methods of nuclear weapons and technology control/containment. I'm not really sure what this has to do with international treaties covering ICJ or court cases involving foreign nationals in our courts. I've considred what JFK had going for him with Russia sending missles to Cuba and I really don't see what that has to do with my post which was in response to your original post on a German citizen being executed in Arizona and a issue of if the ICJ had any authority in reviewing the case. Once again you seem to ramble on into a string of incoherent thoughts, make claims for which you provide no documentation, all of which have nothing to do with your original message. Could you please post a link or a reference to where you got your information indicating Russia as a ballastic missle shield in place? I won't bother asking what this has to do with international treaties on jurisprudence. Amazingly you then work your way through a New World Order/UN conspiracy, homophobia, foot and mouth disease, a Bible reference and, I suppose coming full circle, America's regrettable history of broken treaties with Native Americans. I guess the only point I can seem to make from your reponse is that you have no problem with the US breaking membership in an international treaty covering court cases involving foreign nationals in our court systems. Steve -- From: Aleisha Saba Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: TREATIES Message: TREATIES So here Steve Surani and consider what JFK had going for him with Russia sending missiles to Cuba? So JFK backed down the great Russian Leadertoday it was reported Russia has a system like Bush wants America to protect its citizens. Now if the UN has its way, they will disarm America Oh but there is something much more deadlier is there not - a War on AIDS.we are to fight AIDS.yet we are to accept the enemy into our schools and boy scouts for believe me I truly believe AIDS is being used as a weapon for war - peaceful genocide. Like little puppies taken to the pound - the little mutts are put to sleep - like cattle being slaughtered around the world for oh, they have a disease even though it is reported most of these cattle did not have to die. We are a Nation of Sheep.well now and then a black sheep comes along, who like myself takes the less traveled roads and do not fall down on all fours before implied authority. Baa, Baa, Baa. Like Black Sheep of old, never liked the Judas sheep - Saba Ever know a treaty that was not broken - ask American Indian. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bleeding New York City -- For Profit (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Junkscience.com - www.junkscience.com New from JunkScience.com, http://www.junkscience.com Bleeding New York City -- For Profit By Steven Milloy June 29, 2001 WHY is the American Red Cross trying to reduce New York City's blood supply by 25 percent? Why does state Health Commissioner Dr. Antonia Novello support such a move? The answers are most unappealing. For the Red Cross, the answer appears to lie with its financial difficulties. For Novello, the answer is an inability to distinguish real from theoretical risks - topped off by bureaucratic peer pressure... The full column is at http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/28144.htm Steve Milloy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Why this sudden concern re blood supply
-Caveat Lector- This article a portion herein is absolutely false. It reads no reports here of mad cow disease, which is a lie. A couple of months ago my son had a friend who had been in Scotland who died from Mad Cow Disease. In checking this out, and when you do stuff on the telephone always tell the person answering you are doing a story or are a reporter, and you find you get better treatment for everybody want's their one minute of fame and glory. So end result, there were two cases of mad cow disease in this area, and it is nothing unusual. The individual who told me this, was an officer with the Health Department for I went direct to the source. Is there a problem with the blood once again; now homosexuals are angered because the question is asked in so many words, are you a homosexual and they feel victimized? This is when they try to donate blood. Would I want blood from anyone who was homosexual? No way, in fact recently when I had to have a transfusion I was guaranteed the blood was safe and my DNA would not change, for I could wake up black tomorrow and not know it? So much for panic but something is wrong herevery very wrong. This mad cow disease has been a farce from the start - maybe dometstic sabotage for who got hurt the worst - McDonalds? Slaughtering cattle with hoof and mouth disease and mad cow disease. Wonder - estrogen is made from horse serum and now I read where horses can ge A IDS..how do horses get AIDSbreakdown in immune system and how do cats get leukemia - something they are fed, like this garbage they call fish cat foods, etc. Saba Tighter blood-donor rules backedRecommendation aims to reduce mad cow disease risk ASSOCIATED PRESS BETHESDA, Md., June 28 A federal advisory committee recommended tighter restrictions on blood donors Thursday in an effort to protect America's blood supply from Europe's mad cow disease. Sign up for our free health e-newsletter The FDA estimates the proposed plan would reduce the risk of mad cow disease entering the blood supply by up to 91 percent. THE RECOMMENDATIONS came despite warnings from health officials that tougher restrictions would cause blood shortages. If the recommendations are followed by the Food and Drug Administration, they could reduce the available blood donors in the United States by up to 5.3 percent, according to agency estimates. They would reduce the risk of mad cow disease entering the blood supply by up to 91 percent, according to the same estimates. There have been no identified cases of mad cow disease in the United States, either in cattle or in humans. There is no evidence that the human variety can be spread through blood transfusions, but the panel made its recommendations to cut any risk of such an occurrence. Breaking Bioethics columnist Art Caplan, Ph.D., weighs in on the controversy The vote came after the American Red Cross had announced it intended to institute even tighter restriction in September. The Red Cross collects about half of the 14 million units of blood donated in the United States annually. Countless lives will be lost if blood supplies are cut further, Dr. Jeffrey Doughlin, a surgeon at Jamaica Hospital in New York, told the FDA advisory panel. We already are dealing with a dwindling supply. PROPOSED LIMITS The proposal, approved by the committee by a vote of 10-7, recommends that donors be excluded who have spent a cumulative three months or more in Britain from 1980 through the end of 1996. It also would exclude donors who have had a cumulative time of travel or residence of five years or more in any other European country. Additionally, the proposal recommends that American military personnel or dependents who have spent six months or more on a base in Europe from the years 1980 through the end of 1996 be excluded from blood donation. Also excluded would be people who have received blood transfusions in Britain any time from 1980 to the present. Acknowledging concerns about the impact on the blood supply, the committee added an amendment that calls for a national donor recruitment campaign. Current regulations forbid collecting blood from donors who have lived in Britain for six months or in some European countries for 10 years. FDA officials are concerned that people who have traveled or lived in Europe, particularly Britain, may have eaten beef contaminated by bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow disease. Studies have shown that the disease can be transmitted to humans in meat and, years later, cause a brain disease that rots holes in the brain called new variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, or vCJD. Britain was the center of an outbreak of mad Cow disease and at least 91 people there developed vCJD. Although it has not been proven, some health experts fear that people who have eaten contaminated beef might transmit the disease through donated
[CTRL] General Motors Anti-Gun? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization (Subscribe/UnSubscribe instructions near the end of the message) June 28, 2001 ALERT: General Motors Anti-Gun? We are passing on this exchange of letters with the management of General Motors that was passed-on to us by David Codrea: - Thu, 28 Jun 2001 Dear Mr. Zelman, The following is on topic with the upcoming UN disarmament conference, in that the subject gun sculpture will be appearing there. I hope you agree that JPFO members deserve to know about the General Motors position on this issue, explained in the following by official GM representatives. Best regards, David Codrea - GM and the Gun Sculpture by David Codrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] An internationalist anti-gun sculpture was recently presented at the GM Court at the Canadian War Museum, and will soon be headed for American soil. What follow are some of my correspondences with GM officials. I hope after reading this, you will decide to also contact GM with your concerns, and let them know that while they are free to engage in social activism, we are free to be customers of people who are not abetting UN efforts to destroy our rights. GM Corporate snail mail, the GM Canada website link, and the GM PR Director edress are included in the following thread to facilitate this. - - General Motors Corporation 300 Renaissance Center P.O. Box 300 Detroit, Michigan 48265-3000 Phone: (313) 556-5000 To: Mr. John F. Smith, Jr., Chairman of the Board of Directors Mr. G. Richard Wagoner Jr., President and CEO Dear General Motors Management, According to the webpage: http://www.civilization.ca/cwm/ihuman/cwmhumeng.html an artistic assault on the principles of self determination and defense, The Art of Peacemaking - The Gun Sculpture, is being presented until June 24, 2001 in General Motors Court at the Canadian War Museum. I understand this offense against liberty is next headed for UN headquarters in New York for the July 9 - 20 world disarmament cabal. This seems really inconsistent with your sponsorship of the Chevy Trucks Shooting Sports America series on ESPN cable network, which has done much good at positively presenting recreational firearms use to a viewing public that is otherwise bombarded with anti-gun media bias. For that, you should be commended. Do you have any control over what happens in a site that bears your name? Do you provide continued funding? If you do, will you continue to allow your name to be associated with the globalist agenda to undermine American sovereignty and disarm the American people? http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html I realize that global buying power is one of the phrases you use to attract investors, but I hope that GM is not underwriting the destruction of American freedoms to achieve global profits. I am forwarding this query to allies in the fight to defend the total Bill of Rights, and will also pass along your reply and/or lack of response. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. David Codrea - GM claimed they were unfamiliar with this sculpture in an email that another gun rights activist forwarded to me, so I wrote their Customer Relationships Manager the following: - --- Dear Ms. Mendoza, As per your correspondence with Mr. Rankin, you are unfamiliar with any movement regarding General Motors, the United Nations, and an anti-gun sculpture. Allow me to assist. The link you requested is provided below. http://www.civilization.ca/cwm/ihuman/cwmhumeng.html I informed GM, via the contact us form on your website. Our questions are simple- does GM endorse the UN's global civilian disarmament efforts, or does GM support the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and particularly, the right of the people to keep and bear arms? And what is GM prepared to do about this sculpture currently on display in the GM Court? Your prompt attention to this matter will be appreciated. Thank you, David Codrea - This is the first response I received: - Dear Mr. Codrea, Thank you for your recent e-mail. We appreciate you sending us the link we requested. We should clarify this matter for you. General Motors Court is the physical address of the Canadian War Museum. This is the only relationship between the Gun Sculpture and General Motors. Thank you again for contacting us. Sincerely, Wendy Mendoza Customer Relationship Manager GM Internet Response Center - --- Ms. Mendoza, of course, did not paint a complete picture of the GM relationship: -
Re: [CTRL] General Motors Anti-Gun? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Who the hell cares if General Motors is anti gun or not - after all we have Honda - so Remember Pearl Harbor, and keep your powder dry. Or get in the fertilizer business for McVeigh didn't need a gun or cannon or panzer tank to accomplish his goal. Long live the American Farmers. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Surgeon general urges frank sex talk
Frank sex talk? What about all this garbage on television these days - and we have Rosie, and Ellen and now Paula Poundstone who will not enter a state unless she reads the sodomy laws first. From where does all this disease come?And why should decent children have to be exposed to this garbage in our schools and told now someday it will be proper for homosexuals and/or lesbians to shove into organizations where they simply are not wanted? Seems the biggest problem in this country is HIV/AIDS, and of course the numerous sexually transmitted diseases - strange when I was in high school this type of stuff was not so , well let us use the word popular. As us white people used to say, we never locked our doors at nightwonder why things are so different now? Saba Surgeon general urges frank sex talk Government report a 'call to action'U.S. Surgeon General David Satcher discusses the report with MSNBC's Diane Dimond. MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS June 28 Pointing to alarmingly high levels of sexually transmitted diseases, unintended pregnancies, abortions and sexual violence in the United States, Surgeon General David Satcher called on parents, schools and community leaders Thursday to get past their nervousness about sex so they can do a better job of educating the nation's youths. Post your views on MSNBC's Health Bulletin Board Sex education begins with parents, the report says, but schools play an important role because some parents are unable to give their children all the information they need. IN A FAR-REACHING report that touches on issues ranging from teen sex to gays' mental health, Satcher called for beginning a mature, thoughtful and respectful discussion nationwide about sexuality. Given the diversity of attitudes, beliefs, values and opinions, Finding common ground might not be easy, the report acknowledged, but it is possible. The only course that is not acceptable, Satcher added, is inaction. We've known we've had a problem for a long time it's time we admit we have a problem and do something about it, former Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders told MSNBC. Our efforts not only will have an impact on the current health status of our citizens, but will lay a foundation for a healthier society in the future, the report concludes. The call to action is only a first step, Satcher said one of confronting the issue. Two years in the making, the report begins by detailing the problem: 12 million Americans infected by sexually transmitted diseases each year, with some 40,000 new HIV infections; more than 100,000 children victimized by sexual abuse annually; and nearly 1.4 million abortions in a year, with nearly half of all pregnancies unwanted. An estimated 800,000 to 900,000 Americans are now living with HIV. More than one in five women have been victims of rape. It also touches on some of the most contentious sexual issues, calling on Americans to respect the diversity of sexual values within any community. It says there is no valid scientific evidence that one's sexual orientation can be changed and details the consequences of harassment on the mental health of gays and lesbians. We have a responsibility to be more supportive and proactive than judgmental, Satcher said. We're certainly not trying to get anyone in any religious group to change their views. We're just saying these are people, these are human beings. Teens and sexThirty-nine percent of ninth-graders and 65 percent of twelfth-graders have engaged in intercourse.Just over 8 percent of high-school students in 1999 said they'd had sex by age 13.One in four sexually active teen-agers will contract at least one STD. Four in 10 girls become pregnant at least once before they reach the age of 20 -- nearly 1 million a year.Just 25 percent of sexually experienced 15-to-17-years olds had ever been tested for HIV in 1998; 29 percent for other STDs.Fifty-eight percent of sexually active high-schoolers reported using a condom the last time they had sex.Three out of five Americans living with HIV were infected as teens.Gonorrhea rose 13 percent among teens between 1997 and 1999, with teen-age girls having the highest rates of any females.An estimated 3 million people contract chlamydia each year in United States; 40 percent of cases occur in 15-to-19-year-olds.Sources: CDC; Kaiser Family Foundation; National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy Sexuality education must be wide-ranging, begin early and be available throughout one's life, the report says. It recommends that sex-education programs discuss the benefits of abstinence from sex but also explain how to prevent unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases. It recommends improving access to reproductive health care services for all persons in all communities. Advertisement Abstinence is the only certain way to prevent pregnancy and
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] KHUN SA IS STILL THE HEROIN MAN
There is a library of things pertaining to the 2 visits Lt. Col James Bo Gritz made to the secret TIGER CAMP of General Khun Sa at this location http://www.dcia.com/bo-index.html Brian Quig Matthew McDaniel wrote: well, the bigger drug dealers continue the end game policies by turning their land over to their wardens, to process the tennants a little longer, while they take a leave of abscence on drug charges and run away a little deeper in Burma. The picture below is such an establishement. When you go up the driveway you see crosses everywhere and no smoking signs from those people who export so much tobacco around the world from the Bible belt. Some kind of in house conflict I suppose. And maybe the crosses are to remind people that everything is mixed up, not straight, and that there are a lot of dead result of the mix up. Up at the top of the compound, you get the biggest bonanza of bible verses painted and hung everywhere like you could sniff it for a high. And then there is this huge painting there of The Man. I asked who it was because it was so ironic, and the painting was big and like someone who wanted to be looked up to, more like someone wanted you to look up to the painting, painted more in the style of those effeminate Jesus paintings before he dies, but here they had pulled Jesus out and the rock he was messing with, and put in this standing soldier, the same background. Oh, he's the guy who made this all possible, he cares deeply about people, he donated his land, this land for a drug rehabilitation center, he doesn't want people to use drugs. Maybe putting him on the Jesus canvas was part about all the lies they tell about Jesus and what he pays for, why he takes people's children and all else, I don't know, but finally they told me their saint's name, Khun Sa. Dawn project trucks run around the hills, ministers for Jesus, telling the Akha, who the KMT and the rest of the chinese hordes have rode hard for a good century, that they are here to bring them the good news, and take their land for tea, yep, Jesus made us do it, least the guy on his canvas, there is a resemblance don't you think, should he be carrying a cross, you know life isn't easy for Khun Sa. Matthew Bob wrote: Mail Order Brides Harvard MBA slickos put up a hype wall to screen what low fees are paid to husbands by Mr. Condom for their wives and children Mr. Condom has pre-sold abroad through mail order catalog designed by Harvard MBAs. It's almost like they were lie-yers, but the reason MBAs are called for is to make cloud castles sound eligible for hypothecation to foreign brokers of gold fillings gouged from the teeth of dot-commies by Alan Greenspan and Bush enco gas price and electricity rate gouging. Where is the pearl for this grit? New to my understanding today is the revelation that Chinese missions buy the Akha homelands from Mr. Condom and Mr. Condom relocates the Akha to his mail-order wharehouse in the lowlands. Yesterday I learned that Harvard MBAs write the hype so Mr. Condom can move the Akhas, plant pine trees as wooden soldier place holders long enough to have his secretary present him with the "award for innovation in forestry", hence strategic relocation as Innovation Hamlet and demolished Akha villages as Potemkin villages sold to foreign development brokers of other people's money. I'll remember those expensive Harvard MBA IMF/WB vaporware cloud castles next time Greenspan starts ranting about death-squadding dot-commies at home to save and scrounge other people's money to pay for empty Potemkin villages and full Innovation Hamlets. -Bob Matthew McDaniel wrote: A beneficiary of Mr. Condom and the pine plantation relocations schemes of his wonderful PDA and PTT. An Akha family, no land, no food, no money. Gathering sticks. The sticks will be considered stolen. Since the land doesn't belong to them. Their house plots, $1000 each. Pay up. Slave up. Hey, what's that house with the flashing lights, maybe my daughter can get a job? Or my son can sell pills? Relocated 4 years ago from Huah Mae Kom, a place bought out by the Chinese Baptists of Maesai. Note the flat look, hardly a mountain top any more. Matthew Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[CTRL] Fwd: FW: M. Bernard Aidinoff, Sullivan Cromwell, Chairman, Section of Taxation, The American Bar Association, Harvard Law '53
This is someone you should keep any eye on. -Original Message-From: Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:00 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uri Dowbenko; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Barbara Hayden Fitts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: M. Bernard Aidinoff, Sullivan Cromwell, Chairman, Section of Taxation, The American Bar Association, Harvard Law '53 In the process of checking out Kroll Associates and their possible role in Gideon. Board of AIG, Board of AIG Latin America Fund, looks like the Board of Kroll Associates, I think was board of NY Fedand others...doing research now. Bottom line...Bernard was the tax shelter guy who would know the most about the ramifications for tax purposes and money laundering of reengineering both HUD multifamily and single family Remember...SC was the firm through the Dulles brothers who invented the CIA and started the first asset forfeiture fund with the Nazi reparations money. So Bernard could have been part of whatever Rubin was doing re Nazi Gold and the $4.7 billion. I believe he is also a member of the Council of Foreign Relations http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/challenge98.html Wednesday, March 25, 1998 $1 Million Pledge From Four Graduates To Match Gifts From New Donors or Increased Gifts From Previous Donors Four alumni -- M. Bernard Aidinoff '53, Judith Richards Hope '64, Brian M. Freeman '70, and Robert K. Weary '48 -- havejoined together to issue a $1 million challenge to stimulate increased unrestricted giving to Harvard Law School. The pledge will create a challenge pool which will be used to match all new or increased unrestricted gifts to the Harvard LawSchool Fund during the current fiscal year up to a total of $1 million. "This is a tremendously important and generous initiative," said Dean Robert Clark. "Unrestricted gifts from alumni and friendsbenefit every area of our operation and are vital to the fulfillment of our ongoing mission." This is the School's second unrestricted giving challenge. Last year's $1 million challenge from William D. Walsh '55, generalpartner of the investment firm of Sequoia Associates in Menlo Park, California, was highly successful. A new gift is defined as an unrestricted gift from an individual who did not make an unrestricted gift during the last fiscal year(July 1, 1996 - June 30, 1997). An increased gift is defined as an unrestricted gift that is larger than the unrestricted gift made during the previous fiscal year. Unrestricted gifts are current use gifts without designations or specific uses. M. Bernard Aidinoff '53 is senior counsel at Sullivan Cromwell in New York. He has been chairman of the Section ofTaxation of the American Bar Association, and chairman of the Tax Program Committee of the American Law Institute. Judith Richards Hope '64 is senior counsel with the firm Paul, Hastings, Janofsky Walker in Washington, D.C. She is amember of the Harvard Corporation. Brian M. Freeman '70 is a private investor in Millburn, New Jersey. He is a former deputy for Corporate Finance and SpecialProjects for the U.S. Treasury Department. Robert K. Weary '48 is of counsel with Weary, Davis, Henry, Struebing Troup in Junction City, Kansas. He has been on theboard of the National Cable Television Association. - End - http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/challenge98.html Wednesday, March 25, 1998 $1 Million Pledge From Four Graduates To Match Gifts From New Donors or Increased Gifts From Previous Donors Four alumni -- M. Bernard Aidinoff '53, Judith Richards Hope '64, Brian M. Freeman '70, and Robert K. Weary '48 -- havejoined together to issue a $1 million challenge to stimulate increased unrestricted giving to Harvard Law School. The pledge will create a challenge pool which will be used to match all new or increased unrestricted gifts to the Harvard LawSchool Fund during the current fiscal year up to a total of $1 million. "This is a tremendously important and generous initiative," said Dean Robert Clark. "Unrestricted gifts from alumni and friendsbenefit every area of our operation and are vital to the fulfillment of our ongoing mission." This is the School's second unrestricted giving challenge. Last year's $1 million challenge from William D. Walsh '55, generalpartner of the investment firm of Sequoia Associates in Menlo Park, California, was highly successful. A new gift is defined as an unrestricted gift from an individual who did not make an unrestricted gift during the last fiscal year(July 1, 1996 - June 30, 1997). An increased gift is defined as an unrestricted gift that is larger than the unrestricted gift made during the previous fiscal year. Unrestricted gifts are current use gifts without designations or specific uses. M. Bernard Aidinoff '53 is senior counsel at Sullivan Cromwell in New York. He has been chairman of the
[CTRL] American Heritage
-Caveat Lector- This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?23435 Friday, June 29, 2001 Heritage raised 'several million' in Hong Kong Report claims conservative think-tank's Asian office targeted pro-China tycoons By Paul Sperry © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON The conservative Heritage Foundation, once a strong anti-communist voice, has raised several million dollars in Hong Kong, with most of the money coming from pro-Beijing tycoons, according to a report in the South China Morning Post. The think tank's fund-raising was coordinated through a shadowy Hong Kong shop first uncovered by WorldNetDaily in January. Heritage says it's closing the office, which has been run by a personal aide to the foundation's president, Edwin Feulner. Feulner opened the office in 1996, the same year he brought aboard Elaine Chao as an Asian scholar. Chao, now Labor Department secretary, has close family ties to Chinese President Jiang Zemin through her father. Heritage has targeted tycoons in Hong Kong and around the region, and money raised is said to come mostly from a number of pro-China figures and property developers, said the Morning Post's June 25 story. The Hong Kong office's director, Kenneth Sheffer, admitted in written replies to questions from the Hong Kong-based Morning Post that his office raised several million dollars for the foundation, although he refused to disclose the source of the money. The article, which cites WorldNetDaily, went on to say that the revelation that money is being funneled from Hong Kong to Washington is likely to cause concern among Heritage Foundation supporters. I think traditional conservatives in the U.S. would be interested to know how much money would be perceived as pro-China money, the paper quoted Mark Simon, Apple Daily's corporate-accounts director, who is active in co nservative circles in Hong Kong, as saying. WorldNetDaily, in its Jan. 24 story, quoted a Heritage fellow who said Chao was not hired (at a starting salary of $200,000) to do research at the foundation, but to open doors in China for Heritage's corporate donors. He said she was no great scholar on Asia, but knew as much as she needed to know to strike the deals over there. The fellow added that Chao herself clearly had business interests in China, and has taken a lot of trips to China while at Heritage. In 1997, Chao reportedly led a delegation of Heritage's major donors and trustees to the Hong Kong reunification ceremony. Sheffer, in his written replies to the Morning Post, denied that the office was involved in opening doors for donors on the mainland. Heritage spokeswoman Khristine Bershers says the Hong Kong office was set up primarily for scholars as a listening post in the region. It also provided a venue, she says, for press events like the release of the foundat ion's annual Index of Economic Freedom, which has ranked Hong Kong at the top. Since Chao came aboard, the think tank has tilted more favorably toward China. For instance, a long-time defense scholar was pushed out after warning too loudly of the growing People's Liberation Army threat. And a paper urging caution on permanently normalizing trade with Beijing was rewritten afte r a Heritage donor, who is a key player in the pro-China corporate lobby, complained and threatened to withdraw his support. The donor, Hank Greenberg, also supports Chao's husband, GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell. Following the publication of WorldNetDaily's stories and subsequent media reports, Feulner admitted to having toned down our rhetoric [on Communist China] over the years. Feulner, who sources say is obsessed with fund-raising, has visited Hong Kong often and reportedly has done much of the fund-raising out of that office. In Hong Kong, Heritage has sided with chief executive C.H. Tung, hand-picked by a committee appointed by Beijing, over democratic opposition leader Martin Lee, the Morning Post says. Heritage Foundation has held banquets in honor of Mr. Tung, the paper said, and Mr. Feulner has held meetings with the chief executive in Hong Kong. In its mission statement, Heritage says it supports free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values and a strong national defense. If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll. Previous stories: Elaine Chao's ties to Chinese leader Chao's pro-China coup at Heritage Chao has biz ties to Lippo Dissident Wu 'very surprised' by Chao pick Heritage to close old Hong Kong shop McConnell's belated dirty-money discovery Paul Sperry is Washington bureau chief for WorldNetDaily. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These
Re: [CTRL] Why this sudden concern re blood supply
-Caveat Lector- Additionally, the proposal recommends that American military personnel or dependents who have spent six months or more on a base in Europe from the years 1980 through the end of 1996 be excluded from blood donation. The issue with the blood supply has been addressed before. The Britlanders' and their one-time tourists have been excluded from donating blood for quite a while. I voiced this issue in several forums considering we, Americans, are constantly allied and aligned with the Britlanders in various military operations. The potential collaboration includes shared dining facilities and transfusions in combat theatres. I personally contacted the ARC about the military personnel and their dependents having exposure to local (European) meats and the effects of eating same. My impression was they thought all the GIs ate exclusively on the installations or in their quarters, dining on food imported from the U.S. Ooops. I ate as much off- base as I did on. Thanks for posting this article as I can see someone listened to me and whoever else brought this issue to light. The further question is how involved do we, Americans, want to be in European family squabbles given I and others, as veterans, may no longer be able to support the blood donation efforts at home due to the imperialist designs of our leaders. This sets up the military as a separate class of people in the society, exposed to various environmental factors (BSE/vCJD, anthrax shots, Gulf War syndrome, and other little warps and wrinkles) that may render them useless in the long run. And this includes ALL elements of the uniformed services and may even affect civilian personnel who spent time over there. This brings to mind the attitude of Mad Maddy Albright who conveyed to Colin Powell (or as I read) that the military was merely a tool, a puppet force to be used at will in the grand imperial design. Such a nice personal observation from someone whose family literally ran from European adversity in the 40ies. I think the Serbs still have a bomb from a coupla years ago in the town whose people saved her way back then. AER Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bans Roll On
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.consider.net/forum_new.php3?newTemplate=OpenObjectnewTop=200106250039new DisplayURN=200106250039 }}Begin The Back Half Julia Pascal Monday 25th June 2001 Mein Kampf made the Fuhrer a millionaire, and it has been enriching anonymous charities. But in Germany, its sale is still illegal. Julia Pascal reports on the ongoing struggle over this vile text Germany, 1945. As the Allies liberate the country, thousands of Germans rush to bury Mein Kampf in their gardens. The soil of the defeated is, literally, full of Hitler's anti-Semitic ravings. Fifty-six years later, the book cannot be bought or sold in Germany, and it remains buried. Is it time to release the book to a new generation of Germans? Or would the unbanning result in a revival of Hitler's race- hate? Most German and Jewish scholars I speak with think not, but the idea of circulating Mein Kampf freely in Germany opens up many difficult questions about freedom of speech and who stands to gain from Hitler's estate. By the time of Hitler's death, eight million copies of Mein Kampf had been sold. The book, bought by the state and given out to newlyweds in the Third Reich, made him a millionaire. Six million copies were issued to couples by l942. Hitler's boast was that Mein Kampf had the largest sales of any book worldwide, apart from the Bible. His royalties were $1m a year. Mein Kampf was written in the Bavarian prison fortress of Landsberg am Lech in 1923- 24, after Hitler's abortive beerhall putsch. Stylistically turgid and filled with repetition, the first version was improved to hide that it was written by a half- educated man. According to Hitler, the evil behind Germany's woes was the Jewish people, who wanted to pollute Aryan womanhood and soil the Aryan bloodline, an idea that is still common currency on neo-Nazi websites today. Anybody reading Mein Kampf could not fail to be aware of Hitler's plans for Jews, the disabled, and those others considered racially inferior. The book's original title was A Four and a Half Year Struggle Against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice. Hitler's publisher, Max Amann of Franz Eher Verlag, persuaded him to choose the shorter version (mein Kampf means my struggle). Officially, Mein Kampf cannot be purchased in Germany, Hungary, Israel, Latvia, Norway, Portugal, Sweden and Switzerland, but the book is readily available in Russia, Romania, the United States and the UK (where it sells a regular 3,000 copies annually). Mein Kampf was first sold in the Czech lands in l936, and again in l993, both times in abridged, annotated versions. In March 2000, the full Czech edition was published by Otakar II. Publisher Michal Zitko printed 10,000 copies, whereas the average Czech print run is 400. The German embassy in Prague requested that Zitko stop distribution. Zitko refused. The new edition contained no commentary or introduction, and the cover bore an eagle-and-swastika design. There were protests by several organisations, including the Czech Romanies and the Czech Union of Freedom Fighters. Tomas Kraus, the executive director of the Czech Federation of Jewish Communities, says: To spread such a book as Mein Kampf freely in the market is even more dangerous than its availability on the web. Fedor Gal, a Jew born in the Terezin concentration camp (known to the Germans as Theresienstadt) and today a Prague publisher, is equally damning: Using this book to make money is the publishing business at its worst and most spoiled. The copyright situation is complicated. In l933, Eher Verlag purchased the world rights for Mein Kampf, selling it on to other publishers for translation. In Britain, it ended up as part of Hutchinson's list. In 1939, Hut chinson commissioned the Jewish emigre Ralph Mannheim to translate Hitler's race-hate bible. This choice was not approved by Berlin. After the war, Mein Kampf went on to Hutchinson's backlist, but was reprinted in l969. Richard Cohen, now managing director of Richard Cohen Books, was Hutchinson's trade publishing director in l985, and he recalls the tr icky issue of how to deal with the book. The questions we faced at Hutchinson were: what were a publisher's responsibilities when confronted with such a book, and should we do anything to increase sales? The moral dilem ma was solved by describing the book as vile on the dust jacket. Today's version, now published by Pimlico, still calls it an evil book. Each new edition has prompted a letter of complaint from the German government, Cohen adds. Meanwhile, Hutchinson was bought by Random House, which in turn was purchased by the German conglomerate Bertelsmann. The irony is not lost on Cohen: Thus Hitler's racist tract, unavailable in German bookshops, will be p ublished throughout Britain and the Commonwealth by a German company. As for the German copyright, the state of Bavaria confiscated Hitler's assets after the war, and controls all rights except for the English-language editions. In the
[CTRL] FC: Bare skin on TV must be banned by FCC, says Gloria Tristani (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Some background: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02049.html Prudish FCC commissioner plans to run for New Mexico governor May 21, 2001 http://www.politechbot.com/p-01864.html FCC's Tristani complains about yet another indecent broadcast March 29, 2001 http://www.politechbot.com/p-01781.html Prudish FCC commissioner insists piss should be punished March 2, 2001 --- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: News Media Contact: June 27, 2001 Paul Gallant at 202-418-2300 PRESS STATEMENT OF COMMISSIONER GLORIA TRISTANI Re: Enforcement Bureau Letter Ruling on Indecency Complaint Against WTXF-TV, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania The FCC's Enforcement Bureau has dismissed an indecency complaint filed by Ms. Cherie Degnan of Ambler, Pennsylvania. On January 23, 2001, Ms. Degnan wrote to the FCC's Enforcement Bureau and explained that, earlier that day, full frontal male and female nudity was broadcast as part of a News Program on WTXF-TV of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. According to Ms. Degnan, those images were broadcast at approximately 8:53 a.m. without advance warning from the television station. The Enforcement Bureau dismissed Ms. Degnan's complaint because, according to the Bureau, her failure to provide a tape, transcript, or significant excerpts of the broadcast prevented the Bureau from determining whether the images broadcast were indecent in context. At the outset, I would note that that the Bureau letter dismissing Ms. Degnan's complaint seems to rely erroneously on the First Amendment to justify the procedural hurdles involved with the filing of indecency complaints. The Enforcement Bureau tells Ms. Degnan that the FCC generally requires complainants to provide a full or partial tape or transcript or significant excerpts of the program because a broadcaster's speech has certain protections under the First Amendment. In fact, the First Amendment has nothing to do with the Bureau's evidentiary standard for complaint filing. The First Amendment simply ensures that, once all the evidence is in, the FCC does not punish broadcast speech that is not indecent. The First Amendment does not require a certain level of proof in a citizen's complaint to the FCC. The FCC is free to gather evidence however it wants - from complainants or from broadcasters. These complaint filing requirements (tape, transcript, or significant excerpt) are not only unrelated to the First Amendment, they are disconnected from reality. People do not normally tape or transcribe the programs they are watching or listening to, and thus it is unfair to expect people file such material with their complaints. If for some reason the complainant happens to have that information, the easier it will be for the Commission to evaluate the complaint. But failing to produce that kind of documentation should not result in dismissal of indecency complaints, as is the Bureau's general practice. As to Ms. Degnan's specific complaint, there is no disagreement that context is critical in determining whether the broadcast of a particular statement or image is indecent. We know from Ms. Degnan's letter that male and female frontal nudity was televised in the morning, when children are likely to be in the audience. We also know that courts have affirmed the Commission's ban on the broadcast of material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory activities or organs. Since Ms. Degnan's complaint appears to describe the televised broadcast of sexual organs - in her words full frontal male and female nudity - during the time of day when indecent broadcasting is prohibited, it is certainly possible that the Bureau would have found an indecency violation. In my view, the complaint contained sufficient evidence to begin an investigation into whether the context of this nudity amounted to an indecent broadcast. At a minimum, Ms. Degnan's complaint merited more than the summary dismissal it received from the Bureau. In sum, the Bureau has continued to enforce unreasonable filing requirements for indecency complaints (tape, transcript, or significant excerpt). The Bureau then failed to mitigate that problem by deciding not to contact WTXF to inquire about Ms. Degnan's complaint. The Bureau's action - or inaction - in this case will further embolden broadcasters to ignore the FCC's rules against indecent broadcasting, and in so doing, encourage them to air material that is harmful to children. I sincerely hope the Commission will reevaluate its handling of indecency complaints. The indecency complaint process, as presently configured, tilts sharply in favor of broadcasters and against members of the public who wish to register an indecency complaint. Surely there is a more effective way of enforcing Congress's ban on indecent broadcasting while affording all due fairness
Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal:Delusional am I?... 1/2
-Caveat Lector- A belief in elite troops; a belief in national superiority and disdain for alleged weak neighbors; grandiose war schemes; a belief in secret weapons where have we heard this before??? flw Dilusional am I? Palestinians' arsenal now includes Katyusha rockets http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/Archive-2001/me-israel-03-28.html J2 Unfortunately it is not only J2 that is delusional. It is delusional for the Israeli's to think they can engulf the whole Middle East in a conflagration in order to finally solve the Palestinian problem and not suffer terrible consequences. It is just as delusional for any Palestinians to think they can destroy Israel. There are extremists on both sides. It is my opinion that the Israeli extremists are more of a threat to peace then the Palestinian extremists. The whole key to reaching a real settlement are the Extremist Settlements. Unless these Fort Apaches are removed, there will never be peace. These settlements are the equivilant of setting up a KKK storefront in Harlem and the Israeli extremists know this. They want to goad the Palestinians into committing atrocities so they can invoke the final solution against the Palestinians. Isn't it odd that the Disco Bomber was driven to the bomb scene by an Israeli agent - and the target was mostly non religious Russians (many not even Jews) who ironically had good relations with Palestinians? In a club which welcomed Palestinians? Remember the Reichstag Fire? Israel is stupid to allow these crazy tails to wag the dog. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Incredible Shrinking Presidency
-Caveat Lector- The incredible shrinking presidency Bush's ever-diminishing stature and nonexistent vision for America is cheapening the White House. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Arianna Huffington This is great news! We are finally making progress. From the Great Bloviator to the Minimal Presence. Now if we can only get the Congress to shrink by 90% we will be on our way to real freedom. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sounds like a dangerous situation.... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Pam Schuffert of Germany (daughter of legendary former high level Air Force officer Jake Schuffert) Legendary, eh? So who was he? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American Heritage
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/29/2001 11:39:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON â The conservative Heritage Foundation, once a strong anti-communist voice, has raised several million dollars in Hong Kong, with most of the money coming from pro-Beijing tycoons, according to a report in the South China Morning Post. The think tank's fund-raising was coordinated through a shadowy Hong Kong shop first uncovered by WorldNetDaily in January. Heritage says it's closing the office, which has been run by a personal aide to the foundation's president, Edwin Feulner. Feulner opened the office in 1996, the same year he brought aboard Elaine Chao as an Asian scholar. Chao, now Labor Department secretary, has close family ties to Chinese President Jiang Zemin through her father. It's okay as long as they're Republicans. Now if Democrats do this kind of thing, it's a terrible sin. What ever became of Haley Barbour's problems? That's trial is even quieter than the one for the guy with the real evidence on the downing of TWA 800. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullibleLiberalsandPalestinianpropaga...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/29/2001 8:14:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Palestinians NEVER had decent leaders. That's one of the reasons they are in the shape they're in today. That's not anybody's fault but their own. Now they are going to pay dearly for the immense stupidity of Yassir Arafat. It wouldn't matter if God himself came down to lead the Palestinians. They are going to pay dearly because they are in the way of the Israeli. It's okay. We all expect it. The painful part is watching the cat playing with the mouse. We did a better job of it on the Native Americans, but no one was watching. The whole world is watching Israel, so they feel they must go slowly and make up a lot of hogwash to make their actions palatable. Israel will not be happy until every Palestinian is dead and gone--maybe just dead or gone, but one of the two options is all that will satify. We all know this. Just don't ask us to think it's great because you do. No one can or will stop you. Why do you think we should love, approve and respect you? Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: UNDERSTANDING THE REPTOID PROBLEM
-Caveat Lector- hmm, not only is andrew writing shite, but he is forwarding his own material, rather than just posting it as his own material. does that upgrade it to pretentious shite? please distribute LOL. hey! ben! after you my good man, although you may prefer the Olber one... ;) - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 2:25 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: UNDERSTANDING THE REPTOID PROBLEM -Caveat Lector- UNDERSTANDING THE REPTOID PROBLEM andrew hennessey please distribute - thanx I have to admit that when I see the vast amount of verbiage written on the global conspiracy I cringe - there is no way I want to read all that - unless I wanted to get very specific about the identity of a particular organisation or conspirator - but most people just want to get a feel for who is doing what to whom - and David Icke - bless him is right out there in the forefront of the discovery of details. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad
-Caveat Lector- From: Steve: Bush even set up the economy for Clinton so that those who are ignorant would believe the booming economy was created by Clinton. I seriously doubt this is true. Bush created a mini recession that continued into the early Clinton years. The recession continued into the Clinton administration, but the Clinton administration manipulated things so that the spin put on it made it seem like the economy was doing better than it really was... Case in point...I was laid off during the administration of Bush Sr. I duly reported to my local unemployment office, registered to collect unemployment but also got along doing temporary and/or part-time work... Even though some weeks I made more than would get me an unemployment check, I was still kept on the list for the full term I was unemployed, which was just over 3 months. In early 1993 I was laid off again...this was just at the beginning of the first Clinton administration, and again I was kept on the unemployment list for the full 36 weeks allowed, even though many weeks I got no unemployment compensation because of either still getting 'golden parachute' payouts from my ex-employer, or working part-time or temp jobs... But when I again found myself 'between jobs' a few years later, if I had 4 weeks (which did not have to be consecutive) where I was not paid an unemployment check due to making 'too much' from a part-time or temp job, I was immediately dropped from the unemployment list. In other words, if I had a temp job for one week that paid me too much to collect unemployment, and then I didn't have another temp/contract position for another week which then only lasted 2 weeks, and then I had to wait a couple of days before the agencies found me another temp/contract position, I ended up being dropped from the unemployment rolls because even though I had periods of unemployment between the temp positions, they added up to 4 weeks of what was deemed 'employment'. The way they were now keeping records, as long as there were 4 weeks in total where you didn't get paid unemployment, they decided you were 'employed'. The 4 weeks could have occured over a span of several months, it didn't matter. To continue collecting, I would have had to report again, and file a whole new set of paperwork. I didn't bother. Yet I knew that I was not alone in this category...many well-trained workers (especially in the data processing and tech fields) who got laid off and got by' doing part-time and temp/contract work at a fraction of the salary we used to get...but the Clinton administration could point to the monthly unemployment statistics and claim that 'unemployment is down'...when in reality they were dropping people from the lists who previously would have remained on the lists for months, albeit without getting unemployment checks because we were working these part-time and/or temp jobs... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
-Caveat Lector- HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams, a key figure in the Reagan-era Iran-Contra scandal, was named yesterday to a senior position on the National Security Council. Abrams's notorious history will be familiar to many Nation readers. Not only did he plead guilty to two misdemeanor counts of lying to Congress about the Reagan Administration's Contra program, he was also one of the fiercest ideological pugilists of the 1980s, proudly billing himself as a gladiator for the Reagan Doctrine in Central America--which entailed assisting murderous right-wing regimes and dismissing and whitewashing their myriad human rights violations. Conveniently, Abrams was able to avoid discussion of his infamous past by virtue of the fact that his new position does not require Senate approval. Read David Corn's recent examination of Abrams currently at: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010702s=corn A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 1:47:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elliot Abrams, a key figure in the Reagan-era Iran-Contra scandal, was named yesterday to a senior position on the National Security Council. hhhrhh
[CTRL] Noam Chomsky: Behind the Headlines on Colombia
-Caveat Lector- http://www.media-alliance.org/mediafile/20-3/chomsky.html Volume 20 # 3 May / June 2001 Noam Chomsky: Behind the Headlines on Colombia an interview by David Barsamian DB: Talk about evolving U.S. policy in Colombia. The Interhemispheric Resource Center in Albuquerque has issued a statement: U.S. Policy in Colombia: Towards a Vietnam Quagmire. Do you think that's an appropriate analogy? The New York Times writes in an editorial titled Dangerous Plans for Colombia that the aid to Colombia risks dragging the United States into a costly counterinsurgency war. NC: I don't like the phrase Vietnam quagmire for Vietnam or Colombia. Were the Russians caught in a quagmire in Afghanistan? They shouldn't have invaded. The problem with the Afghan war is not that the Russians got caught in a quagmire. It's that they shouldn't have invaded the country. The same is true of the U.S. and Vietnam. The fact that it became costly to the U.S., which is what a quagmire means, is irrelevant. The U.S. invaded South Vietnam and destroyed it, along with much of the rest of Indochina. So I think we ought to keep away from the phrase. DB: Interestingly, the IRC is an alternative organization. NC: They do wonderful work, but the problem in Colombia is not whether the U.S. will get dragged into a war. That's a minor issue. The major issue is what this is all about. Take a look at today's New York Times and Boston Globe. Both papers happen to have articles about this issue, although I'm not sure they entirely realize the connection. The Times has an article on Bolivia, where farmers are staging big protests. One background reason is that there are farmers who have been compelled to grow coca because there are no other options. The U.S. has come in with crop destruction programs and counterinsurgency operations which have destroyed their coca crops, and now they're starving. So they're among those who are protesting, though the immediate causes are different. Bolivia is one of the poorest countries of the world. So first they are driven to coca production by the Washington consensus and IMF/World Bank programs which say, You've got to open your country up to agriculture and other imports and you have to be a rational peasant producing for the agro-export market trying to maximize profit. You put those conditions together and it spells c-o-c-a. A rational peasant producing for the agro-export market when the country is being flooded by subsidized Western agricultural production is going to be producing coca. Then the West comes in and violently wipes it out, and they end up with peasants protesting in the streets. That's what is going on in Bolivia. The Boston Globe has a good article on Colombia by a reporter in one of the areas that's targeted for the new program where the United States is planning to come in to destroy the crops. That's actually a cover for eliminating the guerrillas. These are areas that are under guerrilla control and have been for a long time. DB: This is the FARC, the Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias Colombianas. NC: There's another guerrilla organization, the ELN, Ejército de Liberación Nacional, but it's mainly FARC. Those are the areas that are targeted by the new program. The paramilitaries are up to their neck, as the military is, in narco-trafficking, but they're not targeted by the program. So the military program happens to be concentrated in the areas of guerrilla control and not the areas of military and paramilitary control, although it's well known that they're deep into narco-trafficking in pretty much the same way the guerrillas are, namely the paramilitaries tax production, just like the guerrillas. In fact, the involvement of the guerrillas in coca production is just that they tax everything. What does the Boston Globe article on Colombia say? Colombia peasants are terrified because there are rumors going around that the U.S.-Colombian program is going to start fumigating. If they fumigate, it's going to be like Bolivia. That will destroy their crops. In fact, they'll destroy not only the coca crops but maybe other crops. The chemical and biological warfare that the U.S. carries out, and that's what it is, may say it's going after coca, but it has unknown consequences for the rest of the ecology. It's an experiment, after all, and these are third world people. You just carry out experiments. You don't know what's going to happen. If it destroys the forests, too bad, we'll change the mix next time. So Colombians are terrified that the programs are going to wipe out their livelihoods. They probably don't know about Bolivia, but then they'll be like Bolivian peasants whose protests are described in the New York Times. These are two New York Times-owned newspapers, incidentally, so we're talking about two branches of the New York Times discussing different aspects of the policy as it affects the poor people, the peasants. Here we're getting to the issues, not the
Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad
-Caveat Lector- From: Tito Hammond I seriously doubt this is true. Bush created a mini recession that continued into the early Clinton years. What is your source for this recession? http://www.gserc.usm.edu/united_states_economy.htm As Mark Twain once opined, You have lies, and you have god-damned lies, and then you have statistics... As I explained in a previous post, the Clinton administration manipulated things so that it would SEEM that things were better, when they in fact were not. People like me were being dropped from unemployment and deemed employed' when we were lucky to be scraping by making a fraction of what we d made when really employed. While perhaps technically true that we were employed', it was a gross distortion to then claim that 'employment is up' when you had computer programmers, engineers, and other technical people working in clerical positions just to keep a roof over their heads... The 'employment figures' during the Clinton administration don't show the thousands of highly trained factory workers who'd previously made good salaries who found themselves without jobs when their factories pulled up roots and moved south of the border, and these workers now had to get by flipping burgers or working part-time clerical jobs... It also doesn't reflect the fact that not only did these workers finds themselves having to work for a fraction of their previous salaries, but also found that they no longer had medical/dental insurance, did not get paid holidays or paid vacations... But heck, according to the Clinton administration, we were 'employed'...and we were the ones included in those figures they presented to bolster the claim that 'employment is up'. June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: London to Recognize Same-Sex Unions
(http://news.excite.com:80/news/ap/010628/12/news-britain-gay-marriages) = News Article: London to Recognize Same-SexUnionsLONDON (AP) - London's city government will officially recognize same-sex relationships and offer ceremonies that resemble weddings, the mayor announced Thursday. The London Partnerships Register, to be launched in September, will make the Greater London Authority the first public organization in Britain to offer recognition to same-sexcouples.Mayor Ken Livingstone called the move a "step on the road to equality," adding he hoped other cities and organizations would followsuit."Clearly we still have some way to go, but I believe that the London Partnership Register is a great start," Livingstonesaid.The Church of England is opposed to gay marriages. Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey declared in April that gay unions would "muddy the waters" of traditionalmarriage.The city register will not confer the same legal rights as marriage, the mayor said, but it is expected to prove the existence of an intimaterelationship if there is a subsequent legal dispute concerning issues such as tenancy, pensions and immigrationrights.The ceremonies, presided over by a city official, are to be held at the visitors' center of the Greater London Authority two days a week. Couples will be allowed to invite up to 25 guests. _IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[CTRL] getting into our heads
-Caveat Lector- getting into our heads - we are almost there with modelling thought, but 'appears' to be a few years off - mind you this is public domain science - not the stuff they don't tell you about andrew First Artificial Intelligence to Undergo Formal Human Psychological Evaluation SAN DIEGO, CA -- 06/29/2001 -- For the first time a standard psychological test known as the MMPI-2 (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory) used by clinicians world wide in the evaluation and treatment of adults will be administered to a machine based artificial personality. GAC (Generic Artificial Consciousness) - pronounced 'Jack' - is the artificial personality being developed at the Mindpixel Digital Mind Modeling Project (www.mindpixel.com) with the collaboration of nearly 40,000 internet users from more than 200 countries worldwide. GAC will be evaluated using the MMPI-2 over the next several months to assess it's learning of human consensus experience from the Mindpixel project's large and diverse group of users from many different cultures. The test will be supervised and interpreted by Dr. Robert Epstein, one of the world's leading experts on human and machine behavior. Nothing like this has ever been attempted, said Epstein. We're evaluating thousands of people worldwide as if they were one collective individual. We don't know if it is possible to build a normal personality out of millions of little pieces. This experiment will tell us how reasonable the idea is, said Epstein. In the nearly one year the project has been online, Mindpixel's Internet contributors have made nearly 8 million individual measurements of more than 355,000 individual items of human consensus experience. The project's organizers hope that they will gain enough information by the time the project's data collection phase is complete in 2010, to build a highly accurate statistical model of an average human mind which they hope can be used as a foundation for true artificial consciousness. About Dr. Robert Epstein: One of the world's leading experts on human and machine behavior, Robert Epstein received his doctorate in psychology at Harvard University in 1981. He is Editor-in-Chief of Psychology Today magazine and University Research Professor at United States International University in San Diego. He is also the founder and Director Emeritus of the Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies in Massachusetts and Adjunct Professor of Psychology at San Diego State University. He was also the former director of the famed Loebner Prize competition in Artificial Intelligence. About Mindpixel: The Mindpixel Digital Mind Modeling Project (www.mindpixel.com) was launched on July 6, 2000. It is the world's largest artificial Intelligence effort with nearly 40,000 contributing members in more than 200 countries. About the MMPI-2: Developed as a specialized psychological test for the measurement of psychopathology, the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) has been the preferred psychosocial diagnostic instrument among clinicians for the past 50 years. The MMPI originally published in 1940 by Hathaway and McKinley, has been implemented in many clinical and non-clinical contexts, including medical, educational, medicolegal and organisational settings. A restandardisation and partial revision of the MMPI resulted in the publication of the MMPI-2 in 1989. [Contact: Chris McKinstry Tel: 56-55-220-904 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr. Robert Epstein Tel: 760-436-4400 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ISML] Insane Science Mailing List - To subscribe: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/isml Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Peace Treaty of Versailles
-Caveat Lector- From: Aleisha Saba Today it is illegal for a dog to run at large; if the dog does not have a owner, it is murdered; More accurately, if said dog comes into the hands of the agents of the duly elected municipal/county/state authorities, said dog is duly EXECUTED according to the statutes of the jurisdiction, if it is not redeemed before said execution date. if it does have an owner, someday they will murder the owner Who are 'they' that go around murdering or executing owners of roaming dogs? Gee, the most my parents could ever do is write a ticket...even though they were the equivalent to a police officer, and wore a badge and had full power of arrest, neither ever wore a gun. The only 'firearm' either used was a dart gun, and only on dogs, never the owners... ;-) My mother DID have a little black bag full of hypodermics and whatever the med is that puts dogs to sleep...used it in the field to put dogs down that were run over by cars and too far gone for hope...never used it on owners of roaming dogs, tho... ;-) Why is this thing so funny to me.it is like my former husband - once he told me he was king in this house and when he landed in Divorce Court he still believed it? Once the divorce papers came through, he must have felt like the luckiest man alive... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Peace Treaty of Versailles
-Caveat Lector- My neighbors dog keeps coming into my yard, does that mean I can shoot the dog and its owner? Or do I have to call the local dog owner executioner officer? I need clarification as the vegtable garden is really taking a beating... ; ) Once the divorce papers came through, he must have felt like the luckiest man alive... Thanks for the chuckle June... -- From: YnrChyldzWyld Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Peace Treaty of Versailles -Caveat Lector- From: Aleisha Saba Today it is illegal for a dog to run at large; if the dog does not have a owner, it is murdered; More accurately, if said dog comes into the hands of the agents of the duly elected municipal/county/state authorities, said dog is duly EXECUTED according to the statutes of the jurisdiction, if it is not redeemed before said execution date. if it does have an owner, someday they will murder the owner Who are 'they' that go around murdering or executing owners of roaming dogs? Gee, the most my parents could ever do is write a ticket...even though they were the equivalent to a police officer, and wore a badge and had full power of arrest, neither ever wore a gun. The only 'firearm' either used was a dart gun, and only on dogs, never the owners... ;-) My mother DID have a little black bag full of hypodermics and whatever the med is that puts dogs to sleep...used it in the field to put dogs down that were run over by cars and too far gone for hope...never used it on owners of roaming dogs, tho... ;-) Why is this thing so funny to me.it is like my former husband - once he told me he was king in this house and when he landed in Divorce Court he still believed it? Once the divorce papers came through, he must have felt like the luckiest man alive... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance--not soap-boxin---please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theor-'--with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fra-ds--is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad
-Caveat Lector- Without disagreeing with your statement below do you not think GBII's admin will also massage numbers on [FILL IN TOPIC HERE] to make shine the best light on their administration. It's all politics. -- From: YnrChyldzWyld Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad -Caveat Lector- From: Tito Hammond I seriously doubt this is true. Bush created a mini recession that continued into the early Clinton years. What is your source for this recession? http://www.gserc.usm.edu/united_states_economy.htm As Mark Twain once opined, You have lies, and you have god-damned lies, and then you have statistics... As I explained in a previous post, the Clinton administration manipulated things so that it would SEEM that things were better, when they in fact were not. People like me were being dropped from unemployment and deemed employed' when we were lucky to be scraping by making a fraction of what we d made when really employed. While perhaps technically true that we were employed', it was a gross distortion to then claim that 'employment is up' when you had computer programmers, engineers, and other technical people working in clerical positions just to keep a roof over their heads... The 'employment figures' during the Clinton administration don't show the thousands of highly trained factory workers who'd previously made good salaries who found themselves without jobs when their factories pulled up roots and moved south of the border, and these workers now had to get by flipping burgers or working part-time clerical jobs... It also doesn't reflect the fact that not only did these workers finds themselves having to work for a fraction of their previous salaries, but also found that they no longer had medical/dental insurance, did not get paid holidays or paid vacations... But heck, according to the Clinton administration, we were 'employed'...and we were the ones included in those figures they presented to bolster the claim that 'employment is up'. June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance--not soap-boxin---please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theor-'--with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fra-ds--is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] Pot Smoker Ad Madness
-Caveat Lector- Oregon Pro-Pot Smoker Ad Starts Media Frenzy http://www.drcnet.org/wol/192.html#neighbors We're Jeff and Tracy. We're your good neighbors. We smoke pot. So reads the large, bold-face type at the top of a full-page advertisement that appeared this week in an Oregon alternative weekly, the Willamette Week. Beneath the bold type is a photo of the Oregon couple -- a normal looking pair -- and more text detailing their views about the normality of marijuana smoking and their struggle to find a media outlet that would let them air their views. The couple, Jeff Jarvis and Tracy Johnson, both 39, of Bend, Oregon, only wanted to publicize their position that marijuana users are normal people, too, but because of the refusal by various media to air their ad, their effort has grown into a full-fledged local media frenzy. At first, Jarvis and Johnson went to local rock radio stations seeking to air a 30-second spot (reproduced in the print ad), but none would touch it. Portland's KUFO-FM turned them down, and so did KNRK-FM, KGON-FM, KKRZ-FM, KKCW-FM and KEX-AM, as well as Bend rock station KXIX- FM, which, the ad notes, proclaims 4:20 to be the happiest moment on Earth. Go figure. The rejections didn't stop there. The ad agency that handles advertising for the Portland mass transit agency, Obie Media, nixed that plan. And Portland's leading newspaper, the Oregonian, rejected a Sunday print ad as unsuitable for publication. Those radio stations did us a great favor by rejecting our ad, Jarvis told DRCNet. These are stations that are constantly joking about pot, but they wouldn't buy our ad. Now everyone wants to talk about it. One station said our ad would 'frighten mothers,' and this is a station that broadcasts the Howard Stern show! In fact, when DRCNet caught up with the couple on Thursday, they were heading out the door to drive to Portland, where a planned vacation weekend had morphed into a series of media interviews. Why did the couple come out of the closet? I can't point to any one thing, said Jarvis. It just came down to deciding that we had had enough. We're pretty patient people, but we decided we had to step up to the plate. We're not really activists -- I volunteered at the Portland NORML booth once in 1998 -- but we've been watching and seeing people do good things. The activists have laid the groundwork, but now I think we've reached critical mass and it is time for the average Joe to stand up and say 'yeah, we're here.' When more people stand up, it'll be over in the blink of an eye. The ad was designed to raise public awareness, said Jarvis, and as a result of the media censorship, it has succeeded far beyond the couple's expectations. But, said Jarvis, This is also a personal declaration of who I am. Don't be surprised if you find out I get high. And we're not alone. This country is thick with pot smokers. I can't believe how rampant underground marijuana consumption is. It's everywhere. As for the future, said Jarvis, the couple intend to get back to their normal lives. This was our 15 minutes of fame, he said, well, okay, maybe 30 minutes. We had thought about this for months, and now we've done it, but we don't intend to continue to do this. We can't afford it; we drive an '86 Honda. The couple has, however, been heartened by the flood of responses their saga has generated. We've been flooded with e-mails, and not one has been critical, said Jarvis. We even heard from the Pot Pride people. That's right, said Mikki Norris of Pot Pride (http://www.chrisconrad.com/potpride/), an organization devoted to normalizing the image of marijuana users. I think Jeff and Tracy did a very courageous thing, and an innovative one. This hasn't been done before, that I know of. I commend them for doing it. But Norris added that Jarvis and Johnson had certain advantages that lessened the risk involved in coming out. They are self- employed, so they don't have to fear that they'll lose their jobs for coming out of the closet, pointed out Norris. We want to see people going public, but for other people, it might make sense to come out first to their friends and family and see how that plays. Once you come out to friends and family, you can hopefully gain their love and support as you take it to the next level. Norris thinks the Pot Pride movement should also be looking at creating support groups similar to P-FLAG, the organization of parents and friends of gay people. We could use support groups of family and friends of pot smokers, said Norris. If they can help educate the public, explain that pot smokers are good people and contributing members of society, then that will open a lot of minds. As for the ad idea, said Norris, more people should try it. The print ad cost $2,555, said Jarvis. At that rate, 50 people chipping in $50 each could go public. A fair price to out oneself? The ad may be viewed online at:
[CTRL] Pentagon investing in lasers, gizmos
-Caveat Lector- Pentagon investing in lasers, gizmos http://www.news24.co.za/News24/Technology/Science_Nature/0,1113,2-13-46_1044142,00.html by Jim Wolf Washington - The American defense department said on Tuesday it was pouring billions of research dollars into high-energy lasers, microwave systems and a host of other advanced gizmos designed to win 21st-century wars more quickly and decisively than ever. Development of such wizardry - along with unmanned systems for land, air, space, sea and underwater uses - was to counter the spread of ``asymmetric'' threats to US forces over the past decade, Pentagon officials told Congress. Among perceived unconventional threats, they cited ballistic missiles, possibly tipped with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons; keyboard-launched ``information operations,'' for instance against US military satellites and ``terrorism.'' ``We must be conscious of these threats as we foster technology breakthroughs ... to cope with that environment,'' Edward Aldridge, the Pentagon's chief weapons buyer, told the House Armed Services Research and Development Subcommittee. He did not spell out precisely how many billions would go to defense research and development in President Bush's 2002 budget blueprint, but under a provisional budget plan, the sum was to have risen 8.1 percent to $48.6 billion. The Defense Department employs 28 500 scientists and engineers in its 84 laboratories and research and development centers - down 42 percent from 43,800 at the end of 1990, said Aldridge, the department's under secretary for acquisition, technology and logistics. Fruits of research The subcommittee hearing featured presentations by the armed services and defense agencies of the fruits of their research. They included a top-hat-sized, sensor-equipped hovering vehicle designed to replace human scouts searching for enemy troops. Dubbed ``Private Jones,'' the army green ``organic air vehicle'' was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Aldridge divided US defense needs into three categories: ''hard problems,'' or significant technical challenges that, if solved, would check a significant threat; ``revolutionary war-fighting concepts,'' and militarily significant research areas. ``Hard problems'' include developing a remote capability to detect and identify potentially toxic chemical and biological agents and to forecast their dispersion through a battlefield. Another challenge is coming up with munitions capable of knocking out deeply buried targets. For ``revolutionary war-fighting concepts,'' new technologies are being worked on for ``fuller dominance of space.'' Key areas include affordable space transportation including advanced propulsion and long-lasting power systems; sensing technologies for space surveillance and protection of US assets in space. Also needed are network systems that communicate among themselves and operationally responsive and reliable networks and tools for boiling down vast amounts of information. In militarily significant research, a priority is the ''generation, storage, use and projection of electrical and other forms of power throughout the battle-space,'' he said. Aldridge said the administration was gearing up for technology to intercept ballistic missiles in all stages of their flight. This implies a layered anti-missile defense, possibly including space-based, sea-based and air-based interceptors in addition to the ground-based system envisaged under former President Bill Clinton. ``Direct-energy'' weapons like lasers also had the potential to shoot down ballistic missiles as they were lifting off as well as to defeat high-speed anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles, Aldridge told the panel. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Surgeon general urges frank sex talk
-Caveat Lector- From: Aleisha Saba Frank sex talk? What about all this garbage on television these days - and we have Rosie, and Ellen and now Paula Poundstone who will not enter a state unless she reads the sodomy laws first. Give us some PROOF for your allegations. As for Paula Poundstone, if she is found guilty IN A COURT OF LAW, I hope they lock her up and throw away the key. Until then, under our system of government, she is innocent until PROVEN guilty... Seems the biggest problem in this country is HIV/AIDS, That's bullshit. More people die in car accidents or from smoking than will die from AIDS. We have a bigger problem with unwed teenage mothers than we do from HIV/AIDS. As us white people used to say, we never locked our doors at nightwonder why things are so different now? Nothing's different, it's just discussed more is all. As for locking your doors, my white grandmother always locked her doors, even back in the days before WWI...they lived in a 'decent' neighborhood, and it scandalized the neighbors that my grandmother would do this (they thought it was casting aspersions on them)...whatever, my grandmother was quite an astute woman, and knew that you couldn't trust anyone who wasn't immediate family... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad
-Caveat Lector- From: Steve Suranie Without disagreeing with your statement below do you not think GBII's admin will also massage numbers on [FILL IN TOPIC HERE] to make shine the best light on their administration. It's all politics. Sure. Every administration does, whether Democrat or Republican. I'm just surprised that George the First didn't hit on Clinton's trick himself regarding the number of people who were unemployed...but I suspect the media's love affair with Clinton had something to do with it, if Bush the First had tried the same thing, he'd have been called to task in all the major media... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: UNDERSTANDING THE REPTOID PROBLEM
-Caveat Lector- The major problem with the reptoid problem is belief. There is no actual hard evidence to either prove or disprove the existence of the reptoids. A classic proof would be to have a logger cut down a tree in a rain forest (don't freak out steve77) and find a reptoid pointing a blaster at him. The last thing he would heard would be the reptoid saying, Die, human scum!. Of course, there would have to be witnesses to this major event in human history, otherwise the story would not get out. Then of course, the Hollywood movie industry would do it's best to bury the story so they could continue to make those horrid B class, alien invasion films. Sleep well, BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
-Caveat Lector- A thought just occured to me, don't know if it's an orginal thought or one that the reptoids beamed into my head. Could it be that illegal drugs and their addiction are a control mechanism used by the reptoids to control the human population? Just think about it, everytime you do a joint or a line, you are helping the reptoids to keep the human population under their control. Sweet dreams, BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rabbi Chats With Messiah
-Caveat Lector- Rabbi tells of conversation with Messiah FROM SAM KILEY IN JERUSALEM http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-200110,00.html ISRAELS ultra-Orthodox Sephardi community was engulfed in a wave of religious optimism after Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual leader of the Shas party, said that he had conversed with the Messiah in a dream. Rabbi Yosef, the former Sephardi Chief Rabbi, who recently said that Arabs were snakes and should be annihilated, told his followers that he had the dream on Friday. Rabbi Ben-Zion Mutzafi, one of his followers, said that Rabbi Yosef had told him that in his dream at the Western Wall plaza and in all of Jerusalem there were only Jews . . . There were no non-Jewish foreigners there. They had already been expelled (before the coming of the Messiah). The Saviour was said to have exhorted Jewish children to study the Torah, the Jewish Bible. He had told the Iraqi-born Rabbi Yosef: Anyone who is for God should come to me, so that there will be teachers to teach them Torah. Not one school will remain without Torah. Everyone will study Torah. The rabbis party, Shas, holds 17 of the 120 seats in the Knesset and has a wide following among the working class and the ultra-Orthodox. Under Ehud Barak it held the balance of power in parliament and extracted huge subsidies for its religious schools. Its former political leader, Arieh Deri, is serving six years in jail for fraud. These mundane dramas have done nothing to dampen enthusiasm for Rabbi Yosefs vision. Eliyahu Shai, the Shas chairman and Internal Affairs Minister, said yesterday: Every Jew who is waiting for the Messiah sees in the dream . . . significant tidings in anticipation of salvation. Rabbi Mutzafi said: Until now we have not heard of anyone who saw the Messiah in a dream. These things are evidence that salvation is nigh. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rabbi Chats With Messiah
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/29/01 1:49:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ISRAELS ultra-Orthodox Sephardi community was engulfed in a wave of religious optimism after Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual leader of the Shas party, said that he had conversed with the Messiah in a dream. (snip) Rabbi Ben-Zion Mutzafi, one of his followers, said that Rabbi Yosef had told him that in his dream at the Western Wall plaza and in all of Jerusalem there were only Jews . . . There were no non-Jewish foreigners there. They had already been expelled (before the coming of the Messiah). (snip) (snip) Its former political leader, Arieh Deri, is serving six years in jail for fraud. (snip) Every Jew who is waiting for the Messiah sees in the dream . . . significant tidings in anticipation of salvation. Rabbi Mutzafi said: Until now we have not heard of anyone who saw the Messiah in a dream. These things are evidence that salvation is nigh. Sounds like wishful dreaming to me, along with a liberal dose of jews uber alles. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
-Caveat Lector- take it further- is cognitive thought a control mechanism used by the reptoids to control the human population? just think about it everytime you think a thought (you can ask a friend, bill).. or maybe religion is a control mechanism used by reptoids to control the human population? just think about it every time you are praying to your god. *yawn* - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs -Caveat Lector- A thought just occured to me, don't know if it's an orginal thought or one that the reptoids beamed into my head. Could it be that illegal drugs and their addiction are a control mechanism used by the reptoids to control the human population? Just think about it, everytime you do a joint or a line, you are helping the reptoids to keep the human population under their control. Sweet dreams, BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/29/01 2:47:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: take it further- is cognitive thought a control mechanism used by the reptoids to control the human population? just think about it everytime you think a thought (you can ask a friend, bill).. or maybe religion is a control mechanism used by reptoids to control the human population? just think about it every time you are praying to your god. *yawn* Or maybe they are parts of the control mechanism and when put together, they work wonderfully. If you are that tired, you shouldn't be doing e-mail. Or is that just a reaction to living in a very dull, socialist state? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Peace Treaty of Versailles
-Caveat Lector- From: Steve Suranie: My neighbors dog keeps coming into my yard, does that mean I can shoot the dog and its owner? Or do I have to call the local dog owner executioner officer? I need clarification as the vegtable garden is really taking a beating... ; ) According to Aleisha, 'they' will shoot both dog AND owner. You need to find out who 'they' are, so that you can become one of 'them', then you too can then shoot roaming dogs and roaming dog owners with aplomb... June Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com for: Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sounds like a dangerous situation.... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sounds like a dangerous situation (fwd) Pam Schuffert of Germany (daughter of legendary former high level Air Force officer Jake Schuffert) Legendary, eh? So who was he? Nessie, some info I have on file: John H. Jake Schuffert Master Sergeant, United States Air Force From a contemporary press report: John H. Jake Schuffert, 79, a retired Department of Defense graphics supervisor who was creator of Here's Jake, a popular cartoon feature in Airman magazine, died of cancer November 2, 1998 at his home in Alexandria, Virginia. Mr. Schuffert's single-panel cartoons, which appeared in Airman for the last 50 years, poked fun at GIs and officers and often depicted everyday situations faced by service members. With comical characters and sardonic wit, Mr. Schuffert turned the bureaucracy of the Pentagon and the relationships between maintenance crews and pilots into the stuff of humor. His most recent cartoons appear in this month's issue of Airman. I think the reason the cartoons are popular is because I was in the Air Force and understand the life of bluesuiter, Mr. Schuffert said in an interview with Airman magazine in October. He spent 23 years in the Air Force, retiring in 1963 as a master sergeant. But not all of his time in the military could be used for fodder of the cartoon feature. Soon after enlisting in the Army Air Corps, he became an airborne radio operator-gunner and was assigned to the 464th Bomb Group with the 15th Air Force in Africa and Italy. Aside from using his artistic talents to decorate the sides of aircraft with paintings, he had few outlets for his creativity. He flew 50 missions during World War II, including the famed bombing raids on the oil fields of Ploesti, Romania. When his B-24 became disabled, Mr. Schuffert and his crewmates bailed out of the plane, and they spent several months in Yugoslavia before making their way back to Italy. Mr. Schuffert, a native of New Castle, Pa., once took correspondence courses in art and cartooning, and he began drawing cartoons for the Task Force Times, a newspaper for troops participating in the Berlin Airlift. He also contributed cartoons to the Pacific Stars and Stripes and the Air Force Times. By 1963, he left active military duty and began his civil service career, first as an illustrator with the Army Signal Corps at the Pentagon and then with the Air Force graphics office. He retired in 1986. Survivors include his wife of 48 years, Dorothy Schuffert of Alexandria; two children, John Joseph Schuffert of Brunswick, Ga., and Pamela Schuffert of Alexandria; two brothers; and a sister. SCHUFFERT, JOHN H. On November 2, 1998, of Alexandria, VA, beloved husband of Dorothy Schuffert; father of Pamela and John Joseph Schuffert; brother of Walter and Henry Schuffert and Kate Rich, all of New Castle, PA.Services will be held on December 3 at 11 a.m. at the Ft. Myer Chapel. Interment Columbarium at Arlington National Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions to the Hospice of Northern Virginia, 4715 N. 15th St., Arlington, VA 22205. -- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs Or maybe they are parts of the control mechanism and when put together, they work wonderfully. well, like, whatever. If you are that tired, you shouldn't be doing e-mail. just tired of preaching dressed as conspiracy theorising Or is that just a reaction to living in a very dull, socialist state? no such thing. and anyways statism, nationalism is *so* 20th century, bill... i am much too modern to take offence and whip out my khyber and get all scottish on yo ass. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] July 9th Is Buy A Gun Day - Pass It On (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:30:55 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: July 9th Is Buy A Gun Day - Pass It On Just a reminder... July 9th Is Buy A Gun Day Pass It On by Ed Cobb June 29, 2001 http://www.lewrockwell.com/e-cobb/e-cobb8.html The UN is having a party next week. Since there is a good chance that if you are reading this you are US taxpayer you will undoubtedly be pleased and proud to know that this status entitles you to foot the bill for the lions share of the shindig. It begins on July 9th. It will be a theme party and a grand time is anticipated by all. The theme will be Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons. The Small Arms Soiree will be held in the UNs home city of New York. That happens to be my home city too. I got out and I wish they would too. As always, the UN is looking out for you and me and the rest of the little guys in the world being as how they are above feathering their own nest with more power, perks and property. They simply want to protect us from illicit arms. Illicit is an interesting word in that you cannot really say what it means until you know what is licit. The UN, being the well intentioned expert body, gets to decide what licit means and theres the rub. Really, there is the first rub. There are many and most of them rub me the wrong way. There is also the matter of defining the small in small arms and the light in light weapons. As far as I can tell those words mean any firearm that you or I might possibly own. At least that is where it will start. It could probably be expanded to mean swords, pikes, bows and arrows, slingshots and your Swiss Army knife as well but give them time. An elitist cabal has to start somewhere, after all. World government wasnt built in a day, you know. The party is all for a good cause. Ill bet you can guess what it is if you will give it a moments thought. That right! Its for the children! The UNs web site will tell you, Hundreds of thousands of children have been among the victims of small arms. The small matter of child victims of government bombs and policies remains UN-addressed. Different party, I guess. And the people who have earned their freedom and protected their own lives and the lives of others with small arms never get invited to these UN parties anyway. Just not A List caliber (oops, poor word choice). Naturally, there will be games at the party. One highlight is expected to come when the pre-feudal third world dictatorships and the Euro-socialists form a conga line and attempt to define internationally recognized standards and provisions regarding marking, record keeping and import / export control of firearms. Wont that be great? The UN-elected, UN-accountable, UN-believably self-righteous UN will tell us how to make our guns, how we will have to track them and how, where, when and to whom we can sell them. I can see why they are so excited! Its good to be King Kofi. The Small Arms Soiree is a really big deal in left wing, statist, world government, we know best so you better do as we say or well bomb you too circles. Big like the Oscars. And like the Oscars, the main event is inspiring offshoot (sorry, another poor choice of words) parties. The International Action Network on Small Arms, Im not making this up, is so excited by all of this self-serving Big Brother action that they have designated July 9th as Small Arms Destruction Day. Well, la di da. The International Action yadda yadda yadda is based in London. If you have been paying attention you already know how well Englands gun ban is going. It has been a major success. If you are a member of the government or organized crime (I hate redundancy. Hate it.), that is. These Brit boys are positively giddy about this whole deal and have called for public events wherein small arms will be destroyed. If you are a criminal this is a great labor saving service as you will know the safest place to ply your trade well in advance. So thoughtful, those Brits. Now remember to keep all of this in perspective and not get too carried away. It is small arms and light weapons that are the enemy here and that should be destroyed on July 9th. Dont expect the UN or any of its member states to be tossing tanks, or jet fighters or, heaven forbid, nukes onto the bonfire. Thats not happening, folks. But you should feel free actually, since this is the UN, you should feel compelled to drop by and toss a Colt Python or a nice lever action Winchester onto the fire. For the children. Or heres an even better idea. Celebrate the opening of the Small Arms Soiree and Small Arms Destruction Day in true liberty loving American fashion. Buy a
Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/29/01 3:20:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i am much too modern to take offence and whip out my khyber and get all scottish on yo ass. While the scots were (are) barbarians, the English did tame them. see the Union Jack. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sounds like a dangerous situation.... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/29/01 8:26:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has been confirmed that a company linked to President Bush has been granted a government contract to build 107,200 full-length railroad boxcars with the shackles inside. The company, Gunderson Steel Fabrication, has a satellite factory in Texas, which is involved in this contract. In fact, President Bush made a nationally televised campaign speech from this factory. At present, I do not know the connection between Bush and this company. Please be specific - we've been hearing these same things for years. The fear-juice is running low. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 1:52:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hhhrhh That says more than a thousand words...not that your stripes weren't already loudly painted and obvious... So does your paycheck say "CIA" or are you just a wannabe?? I lean towards the wannabe monniker...you seem like a geek wannabe...let me guess, you liked to listen to the police scanner as a kid too?? Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
In a message dated 6/29/01 3:10:24 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could it be that illegal drugs and their addiction are a control mechanism used by the reptoids to control the human population? Nope! Revealed religion is though!! There's NO DOUBT about that! Bill.
[CTRL] Fwd: [FAIR-L] Why Wasn't Kissinger Asked About War Crimes Charges?
FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports ACTION ALERT: Why Wasn't Kissinger Asked About War Crimes Charges? June 29, 2001 Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was summoned last month to appear at the French Palace of Justice to answer questions about murders and disappearances in Chile in the 1970s. While the story was carried by major European news outlets, it has received relatively little coverage in U.S. media. French authorities wanted to ask Kissinger, who was visiting Paris, about Operation Condor, the terror network set up by the governments of Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador and Bolivia. Evidence that the U.S. government was aware of and lent support to Operation Condor has been available for years (see The Nation, 8/9-16/99; New York Times, 3/6/01). The French magistrate who summoned Kissinger was particularly interested in what light he might shed on the disappearances of five French nationals who disappeared in Chile during or shortly after the U.S.-supported coup there in 1973. But the French courts would learn nothing from Kissinger, who left town the day after being summoned without answering any questions. After the episode in France, Kissinger did a lengthy, one-on-one interview with PBS's Charlie Rose (6/20/01). Kissinger also appeared alone with CNN's Wolf Blitzer (6/21/01) and Fox News Channel's Paula Zahn (6/13/01). None of the interviews even mentioned the French attempt to question Kissinger about human rights abuses. Nor did any of the journalists bring up the question of whether Kissinger might be indictable on war crimes charges, as journalist Christopher Hitchens argued in a two-part Harper's magazine article (2/01, 3/01). Was there an agreement that the interviewers would avoid raising such uncomfortable issues for Kissinger? Charlie Rose was recently accused of making such an agreement with Roger Ailes, the chairman of Fox News Channel. In an interview with the New York Times Magazine (6/24/01), Ailes claimed that he had written assurance from Rose that he would not be asked about politics during his May 22 interview. Yvette Vega, the executive producer for the Charlie Rose Show, told FAIR that she was unaware of any such deal with Ailes. But Kissinger himself seemed to have this kind of agreement with the National Press Club in Washington, DC, where Kissinger spoke on June 21. Noting that none of the questions asked of Kissinger, chosen from written questions submitted by the audience, dealt with war crimes or human rights investigations, journalists Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman asked Press Club moderator Richard Koonce if there was some sort of arrangement to avoid these topics. According to Mokhiber and Weissman, Koonce explained that there was a definite sensitivity to those kinds of questions, and that Kissinger was afraid that if we got into a discussion of that, for the vast majority of people that, it would take so much time to explain all of the context, that, you know, he preferred to avoid that. Which raises the question: If a former Secretary of State receiving a summons about his knowledge of murder, torture and disappearances is not news, then what is? ACTION: Please contact Charlie Rose and ask why he failed to ask Henry Kissinger about the newsworthy issues of human rights investigations and war crimes charges. You might also contact the National Press Club to voice your disappointment that journalists were not allowed to press Kissinger on these matters. CONTACT: The Charlie Rose Show mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 212-940-1600 National Press Club Melinda Cooke, Assistant to Club President Dick Ryan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 202-662-7537 As always, please remember that your comments are taken more seriously if you maintain a polite tone. Please cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your correspondence. Read Mokhiber and Weissman's column, Censorship at the National Press Club, at: http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2001/77.html Read The Fugitive by Christopher Hitchens (The Nation, 6/25/01) http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010625s=hitchens -- Feel free to respond to FAIR ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). We can't reply to everything, but we will look at each message. We especially appreciate documented example of media bias or censorship. And please send copies of your email correspondence with media outlets, including any responses, to us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . FAIR ON THE AIR: FAIR's founder Jeff Cohen is a regular panelist on the Fox News Channel's Fox News Watch, which airs which airs Saturdays at 7 pm and Sundays at 11 am (Eastern Standard Time). Check your local listings. FAIR produces CounterSpin, a weekly radio show heard on over 130 stations in the U.S. and Canada. To find the CounterSpin station nearest you, visit
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 6:26:07 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That says more than a thousand words...not that your stripes weren't already loudly painted and obvious... So does your paycheck say "CIA" or are you just a wannabe?? I lean towards the wannabe monniker...you seem like a geek wannabe...let me guess, you liked to listen to the police scanner as a kid too?? Bill. LOl typical of you little pissant fascist types. got nothing intellegent to say so you attack the person. Denegration is a high form of flattery IMO. keep it up Carl
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 6:26:07 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That says more than a thousand words...not that your stripes weren't already loudly painted and obvious... So does your paycheck say "CIA" or are you just a wannabe?? I lean towards the wannabe monniker...you seem like a geek wannabe...let me guess, you liked to listen to the police scanner as a kid too?? Bill. LOl typical of you little pissant fascist types. got nothing intellegent to say so you attack the person. Denegration is a high form of flattery IMO. keep it up Carl
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 7:51:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOl typical of you little pissant fascist types Yo' Carl!!! Here I am...just like you, the ONLY difference is that I lend my real and whole name to this...and for your ilk I'll say again- William Shannon Elmhurst Illinois And no, I'm not into giving you anything else but at THE VERY LEAST I sign my name and give my town!!! So find me if you want...I've got 158 grains of jacketed lead for you if you want to be a total moronic goofball (I always put the jacket on for visitors)... IMHO you've offered naught to this list save a few sophmoric rantings (that you likely heard on Limbaugh) and your AM radio-inspired "thoughts"... Pretty boring "Ahab"...but pretty typical of your lot... Hey! While you're in town why not hit the "BOYSTOWN"??? I think you'll find your fantasy there...but 'member...SAFE SEX You really are gay! (Not that that's wrong) Bill.
[CTRL] MI 5 and Isralis use gerbils to detect terrorists?
-Caveat Lector- Strange but true. Check my weblog daily http://leviathan.weblogs.com http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003038683162729rtmo=rQrDbhFXatmo=g3MKpg=/et/01/6/30/ngerb30.html MI5's secret plan to recruit gerbils as spycatchers By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent MI5 considered using a team of highly-trained gerbils to detect spies and terrorists flying into Britain during the 1970s, Sir Stephen Lander, the service's director-general, revealed yesterday. The plan was based on the ability of gerbils to detect a rise in adrenalin from changes in the scent of human sweat. Sir Stephen said the Israelis had put the idea into practice, placing gerbil cages to the side of security checks for travellers at Tel Aviv airport. A suitably placed fan wafted the scent of the suspect's sweat into the cage. The gerbils were trained by Pavlovian response to press a lever if they detected increased adrenalin, receiving food as a reward. The system was never put into practice by MI5 because the Israelis were forced to abandon it after they found that the gerbil could not tell the difference between terrorists and passengers who were scared of flying. Speaking at a conference at the Public Record Office in Kew, Sir Stephen said MI5 archives contained a complete volume on the idea - which was based on Canadian research for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police - written in the 1970s. Although Dame Stella Rimington made a practice of speaking publicly in an attempt to change MI5's secretive reputation, yesterday's Missing Dimension conference was only the second occasion that Sir Stephen has done so. The conference marks a new PRO exhibition on espionage, Shaken Not Stirred, starting today, which includes exhibits on a number of spies including Mata Hari and a spy paid the equivalent of £6.5 million by King George I to spy on the Stuarts. The Missing Dimension refers to the fact that most histories are written before intelligence files have been released and so omit a crucial element of what occurred and why. Sir Stephen admitted that it would be a long time before MI5 would be able to release details of its Cold War activities. _ Get your own FREE allofyourgodsaredead.com Email account at... http://www.evilemail.com http://allofyourgodsaredead.com - Someone had to tell you. _ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hidden truths of Lake Vostok excite scientists and ranters
-Caveat Lector- Glad to see there is at least one fan of the Immortal Master HPL still on the list!!! Incidentally, if hardy life, capable of withstanding the rigors of space or hostile environments IS found there would it not be a vindication of HPL and the weird tales he wrote so well? I find so much of past horror and SF are quite prescient about coming future events and am amazed that so much that has been written about has turned out to be true. I have a theory about that, in which the avant garde writers, poets, artists, etc. are manipulated at times to write of things in order to prepare the communal psyche for the eventual discovery of unusual and/or unnatural things. I have no proof of such a manipulation nor of who or what is doing the manipulation but it is interesting speculation in light of the phenomenon. Perhaps something on the order of PK Dick's orbitting artificial intelligence system, or J Vallee's theory of a cybernetic control system which exerts its influence subtley into the mainstream culture and communal thought. Just idle speculation. But interesting. On Fri, 29 June 2001, Bill Howard wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/28/01 8:20:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps but I would have thought them long run over and destroyed by the Elder Things and the Shoggoths come back from the Mountains of Madness! Good Point! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Welcome to the desert of the real. Morpheus, in The Matrix My God it's full of stars! Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hidden truths of Lake Vostok excite scientists and ranters
-Caveat Lector- tenebroust wrote: -Caveat Lector- Glad to see there is at least one fan of the Immortal Master HPL still on the list!!! Incidentally, if hardy life, capable of withstanding the rigors of space or hostile environments IS found there would it not be a vindication of HPL and the weird tales he wrote so well? I find so much of past horror and SF are quite prescient about coming future events and am amazed that so much that has been written about has turned out to be true. I have a theory about that, in which the avant garde writers, poets, artists, etc. are manipulated at times to write of things in order to prepare the communal psyche for the eventual discovery of unusual and/or unnatural things. I have no proof of such a manipulation nor of who or what is doing the manipulation but it is interesting speculation in light of the phenomenon. Perhaps something on the order of PK Dick's orbitting artificial intelligence system, or J Vallee's theory of a cybernetic control system which exerts its influence subtley into the mainstream culture a Wonder what Migo fungi taste like? -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 29 June 2001 Federalist #01-26.dgst Part 1
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! * Veritas Vos Liberabit * THE FEDERALIST(r) DIGEST The Conservative e-Journal of Record 29 June 2001 Federalist #01-26.dgst Retrieve today's Digest as HTML printer-friendly text or PDF -- it's much easier reading than e-mail text! Link to: http://www.Federalist.com/current2001.asp To purchase a book from the Patriot's Library, link to -- http://www.federalist.com/books.asp To support or sponsor The Federalist, link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp CONTENTS: The Founders Federalist Perspective Insight Upright Editorial Exegesis Dezinformatsia Leftovers Village Idiots Short Cuts __O__ THE FOUNDERS A republic ... if you can keep it. --Benjamin Franklin __O__ FEDERALIST PERSPECTIVE The BIG news this week, Reagan Republicanism comes roaring back! (Quisling RINOs, beware!) In a stunning demonstration that even the Garden State of New Jersey is not a lost cause for The Federalist's brand of principled constitutional conservatism, Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler won Tuesday's Republican gubernatorial primary there, besting the GOP establishment's handpicked and heavily protected candidate, former U.S. congressman Bob Franks. Schundler, an outspoken social and fiscal conservative, collected 57% of the vote -- AKA landslide. In 1996, Mr. Schundler became Jersey City's first GOP mayor in 75 years and has been re-elected twice, even though only 6% of Jersey City voters are registered Republicans and 68% of registered voters are racial minorities. In the 2000 election, Mr. Schundler won 64% in the city's most Hispanic voting district and 45% in the district with most black voters. He won those elections on conservative themes, the same ideas he expressed in his victory speech Tuesday night: We have a moral responsibility to get taxes down ... to give you the tax relief you deserve. We need to do better for our children across the state. Every human life has dignity. Every human life has valueWe will fight the special interests. And we will win! Schundler will next face Democratic nominee Jim McGreevey for the November election. Of that challenge the Wall Street Journal notes: In 1966, Democrats in California desperately wanted a 55-year-old actor named Ronald Reagan to win the GOP primary for governor. They got their wish, but Mr. Reagan connected with voters and the rest is history. Mr. Schundler has already won over Jersey City voters three times. He is running as a reform conservative, and his big victory shows the voters are interested. Don't be surprised if he confounds the experts yet again. McGreevey wasted no time launching his campaign: Carrying a concealed weapon is not a new idea, it's a bad idea. Taking money from public schools is not a new idea, it's a bad idea. Preventing abortions...is not a new idea, it's a bad idea. Quote of the week... President Bush, the Congress and state legislators handing over more money to the education establishment will do nothing to end America's education rot. More money will simply spread it. As to teacher training, what's needed is for teachers to have degrees in the subject they teach and maybe a class or two in pedagogy. For this, schools of education are surely not needed. --Walter Williams On cross-examination... Let us, for a moment, take the sex-education pushers at their word: If you teach a child how to use a condom, you're promoting safety -- not usage. ...Why, then, doesn't the same logic apply to guns? --Michelle Malkin Open query... Do the Communist Chinese have to murder American personnel or attack the United States or our allies with their missiles before those who blithesomely pontificate about the civilizing benefits of building the Chinese economy will admit that China for a decade has been going in the opposite direction than predicted by the so-called 'free traders'. --Rep. Dana Rohrabacher News from the swamp... In the Executive Branch, world-renowned climatologist Dr. Fred Singer praised President George Bush's decision to reject the Kyoto Protocol on global warming, despite protests from some Europeans and environmental groups. It is a victory for the American people arrived at after a considerable amount of debate within the Bush cabinet, said Singer. In the House of Lords, as predicted, the Senate Judiciary Committee, now in the hands of Sociocrats Charles Schumer and Leahy, Kennedy, Feinstein, and Durbin, convened a hearing to discuss the question, Does Ideology Matter? Schumer says that the Senate is justified in opposing Bush nominees whose views fall outside the mainstream. In other words, Schumer wants his Senate committee to have the authority to exclude any nominee who does not share his worldview from a vote in the full Senate. As legal scholar Thomas Jipping says, Demanding to know how a judge will rule on issues is
[CTRL] 29 June 2001 Federalist #01-26.dgst Part 2
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Culture comment...
At the National Education Association's annual convention next week, a
resolution promoting homosexuality in government schools is in the
works, which states: The National Education Association recognizes
that the complex and diverse needs of gay, lesbian, bisexual,
transgender, and questioning students; and gay, lesbian, bisexual, and
transgender families and their children require the development of
programs that promote a safe and inclusive environment.
Thus, the NEA proposes to develop a curriculum and instructional
materials and programs designed to meet the needs of gay, lesbian,
bisexual, and transgender students; programs that support gay,
lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and questioning students and to
recognize the importance of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender
education employees as role models; and programs and information that
include the contributions, heritage, culture, and history of gay,
lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people.
What has your kids done learnt themselves today?
Faith Matters...
In news from the Village Church bulletin, noting that the American
church is in a crisis of faith, two Third World Anglican archbishops
have consecrated four conservative American priests as bishops, a move
which the worldwide Anglican Communion has been anticipating for some
time. The Archbishop of Canterbury decried the move as a trespass on
the territory of the 2.3 million member Episcopal Church of the USA.
I believe this is the opening round in what will become a realignment
in the Anglican Communion along the fault line of biblical truth,
commented Bishop Charles Murphy, ordained early last year by Rwandan
Archbishop Emmanuel Kolini in Singapore. More and more people are
going to decide whether they are going to go the way of truth or
unity. One of the four new Bishops, T.J. Johnston, of Little Rock,
Arkansas, added, A church divided over the essentials of a faith
cannot stand. What the Anglican Mission has done is given us covering
to step out from under a faith that was deeply divided on the
essentials of faith.
Syndicated columnist, and lifelong Episcopalian Bill Murchison says
It's mission time in America, noting that the Episcopal Church is so
full of heretical teachings that the world Anglican Communion now sees
the U.S. as a mission field. The Episcopal Church is dominated by a
cadre of Leftelitists posing as clergy.
On the frontiers of junk science...
From the Keen Sense of the Obvious Department, Michael Joyner, the
homosexual spokesman for GlaxoSmithKline (world's largest supplier of
drugs used to combat AIDS), declared, I make no connection between
gay pride and HIV. I don't think the lifestyle has anything to do
with AIDS.
That should keep business booming!
Around the world, but getting closer every day...
The UN's International Court of Justice in The Hague charged that the
U.S. ignored the legal rights, under international law, of two
German-born brothers executed in 1999 for the murder of a bank manager
during a 1982 robbery. Germany claimed the U.S. violated the Vienna
Convention by not informing consular officials of the arrest and
murder convictions of Walter and Karl LaGrand. Did someone mention
U.S. sovereignty?
You gotta love the tenacity of these boobs!
And last, Ms. Barbara Graham (whose arrest was reported in The
Federalist last year) was sentenced to 10 years to life for shooting
Mr. Kikko Smith, whom, she believed, was responsible for the death of
her 19-year-old son, Le'Pierre Clemons. Missing from the media's
reports on her conviction was the part about Ms. Graham being a high
profile activist with the anti-gun group, Million Mom March, prior to
her arrest.
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INSIGHT
Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under
God is acknowledged. --Ronald Reagan {} Our real blessings often
appear to us in the shape of pains, losses, and disappointments, but
let us have patience, and we soon shall see them in their proper
figures. --Joseph Addison {} A little philosophy inclines a man's
mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy brings men's minds about to
religion. --Francis Bacon {} I know God won't give me anything I
can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much. --Mother Teresa
{} Humanism is not new. It is, in fact, man's second oldest faith.
Its promise was whispered in the first days of the Creation under the
Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil: 'Ye shall be as gods'.
--Whittaker Chambers {} Philosophy is perfectly right in saying that
life must be understood backward. But then one forgets the other
clause -- that it must be lived forward. --Soren Kierkegaard {}
None can be an impartial or wise observer of human life but from the
vantage ground of what we should call voluntary poverty. --Henry
David Thoreau {} A democracy is a state in which the
Re: [CTRL] Hidden truths of Lake Vostok excite scientists andranters
-Caveat Lector- You're forgetting the input of the Supersonic Nazi Hell Creatures From The Hollow Earth, or their new incarnation, The Supersonic Aluminium Nazi Hell Creatures From Beneath The Hollow Earth. Ia Cthulhu! Praise Bob! Perhaps but I would have thought them long run over and destroyed by the Elder Things and the Shoggoths come back from the Mountains of Madness! On Wed, 27 June 2001, Mark McHugh wrote: -Caveat Lector- Bill Howard wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/26/01 8:28:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about the secret Nazi bases!!! Aren't we forgetting them!!!??? YES! Was the drilling stopped by the eco-terrorists so the world won't find the secret Nazi base beneath the ice cap? BHoward _ Get your own FREE allofyourgodsaredead.com Email account at... http://www.evilemail.com http://allofyourgodsaredead.com - Someone had to tell you. _ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Impeach The Bastards
-Caveat Lector- At 04:02 PM 6/27/01 -0400, : William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kgw.com/kgwnews/story.html?StoryID=22078http://www.kgw.com/kg wnews/story.html?StoryID=22078 Eugene Attorney Tries to Impeach High Court June 26, 2001, 08:30 AM By AP Staff A former member of Congress launched a campaign to impeach the five conservative Supreme Court justices who voted to stop the presidential ballot recount in Florida last year -- but admits it's a long shot. Charles Porter, an 82-year-old attorney in Eugene, said the Supreme Court ruling was so clearly influenced by politics that under the Constitution there may be grounds to impeach the justices for bias. What an idiot. Democrats are so narcissistic and blinded by their own partisanship, that that cannot admit the possibility that anyone might have a legitimate alternative view. Get over it. Bush won. And he's spending the money that the Democrats WOULD have gotten to spend if Democrat election officials had succeeded in excluding military ballots and counting dimpled chads. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Incredible Shrinking Presidency
-Caveat Lector- At 07:24 PM 6/28/01 -0400, William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/06/28/bush/index.htmlhttp://w ww.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/06/28/bush/index.html The incredible shrinking presidency Bush's ever-diminishing stature and nonexistent vision for America is cheapening the White House. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Arianna Huffington This is great news! It's time for people to get their own damn vision for their lives and go out and do something about it rather than sitting on their butts in front of the boober tube and waiting for Bill Pants-on-FIre or Hillary Bolshevik to have a vision for them. I want a President who has the dignity and good sense to fade into the back ground instead of having Clintonist photo-ops shoved into my face every waking moment. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 26 June 2001 Federalist #01-26.brf
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! * Veritas Vos Liberabit * THE FEDERALIST(r) BRIEF The Conservative e-Journal of Record 26 June 2001 Federalist #01-26.brf To retrieve today's Brief as HTML printer-friendly text, link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/current2001.asp To purchase a book from the Patriot's Library, link to -- http://www.federalist.com/books.asp To support or sponsor The Federalist, link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp __O__ THIS WEEK'S FEATURED SITE You asked for it. You waited patiently for it. It has arrived! The Federalist's recommended reading list, THE PATRIOT'S LIBRARY, is now up and all titles are available for purchase through our vendors. Our editors have spent months compiling a thoughtful list of titles every patriot should have on hand. Visit the Patriot's Library, select a category, select the titles you want to purchase, and support The Federalist by making your purchases through our vendor. (For multiple purchases, after making your first selection, back page in your browser to our book page and select another title. It will then be added to your shopping cart.) Visit -- http://www.federalist.com/books.asp CONTENTS: The Founders Insight Good News ICTUS Imprimis Family Culture Liberty Worth Repeating Editorial Exegesis The Gipper Government Political Futures For the Record Policy Pages Reader Comments The Last Word __O__ THE FOUNDERS No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the invisible hand which conducts the invisible affairs of men more than the people of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency We ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of heaven cannot be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which heaven itself has ordained. --George Washington __O__ INSIGHT History is to the nation ... as memory is to the individual. An individual deprived of memory becomes disoriented and lost, not knowing where he has been or where he is going, so a nation denied a conception of its past will be disabled in dealing with its present and future. --Arthur M. Schlesinger __O__ GOOD NEWS In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (Romans 1:27) ++ Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man. (Genesis 9:6) ++ Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. (James 1:2-3) ++ Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. (Proverbs 3:5-6) __O__ ICTUS IMPRIMIS America turned to God when we went to war in the Middle East. The God of the Bible gave the United States and its Coalition allies a stunning victory in the Gulf War of 1991. He answered our prayers. But the spiritual uptick did not last; we turned away from Him when the war was over. America's moral decline, well underway before the onset of that war, has accelerated since then. We are in jeopardy of suffering God's judgment, falling in the way that nations have fallen in the past -- moral decay from within, making them vulnerable to attack from without. The Gulf War and its aftermath bring a message of warning and hope which ... is crucial to America's future. --Colonel Richard E. Geyer (USA) From When America Turned To God __O__ FAMILY Rights and privileges that were only available to traditional married couples are now available [under 'domestic partnerships'] to any combination of two people who register with the town clerk. But why stop at two? Why not three or six? If you explicitly reject the idea that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, why balk at polygamy? If you believe that the family can take on any form that meets the participants' needs, why exclude a family arrangement form that is as old as recorded history? And if the courts say marriage is any combination of people, say a man and a man, by what logic can they say it can't be a man and two women? They can't! Objections are foreclosed when we abandon traditional understandings of marriage. While Utah has many reasons to crack down on polygamy, it has little reason to feel embarrassed. Given their current attitudes towards marriage, Western societies -- and many in the United States -- are in no
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 8:20:46 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So find me if you want...I've got 158 grains of jacketed lead for you if you want to be a total moronic goofball (I always put the jacket on for visitors)... nice, i havnt had a death threat since the 60s. BTW i am forwarding this to my ISP and the FEDS. MMuuuh You pathetic little squirts are so amusing. Ahab42 AKA Ahab42 Muuha
[CTRL] Bush Springs Faith Based Booby Trap
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Bush Springs Faith Based Booby Trap By Chuck Baldwin June 29, 2001 President George W. Bush's faith based funding plan is inching ever closer to reality. According to recent reports, final details are currently being hammered out and soon the bill will come to the House floor for a vote. Passage is all but certain. Many religious leaders are eagerly anticipating a potential windfall from the federal government that could quickly find its way into their coffers. They shouldn't be. In the first place, the redistribution of wealth is not the job of the federal government. For conservative Christians to oppose Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, only to now embrace Bush's faith based initiative, is nothing short of hypocritical. Both plans play Robin Hood with the American taxpayers. Second, if anything violates the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, Bush's faith based funding plan does! The First Amendment reads, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.. The Bush plan violates both clauses. The Founding Fathers had already experienced state supported religion. It didn't work in the old country; it won't work here. They knew that government handouts meant government control. That's why they were careful to include the words, free exercise thereof. In order for religious institutions to be able to do the Lord's work, they must be free. That means free from both governmental support and governmental restrictions. Any faith based institution that accepts Caesar's money also accepts Caesar's shackles. The Democrat chosen by Bush to head this new federal monstrosity is John J. DiIulio, Jr., a University of Pennsylvania political science professor. He recently laid down the law for any prospective church or ministry interested in receiving these new federal funds. He said that religious organizations could participate as long as they met all federal anti-discrimination policies. Of course, that means they must be willing to hire homosexuals and lesbians. DiIulio also stated that these religious groups must create separate organizations that do not promote religion, or discriminate in hiring. That means the religious institutions are prohibited from evangelizing, or preaching the gospel (plus, a second warning to hire homosexuals). It also means that those church ministries that decide to accept these federal funds must only operate as a secular organization. In that case, the very reason for their existence becomes unnecessary. The reason that faith based institutions are more successful than government supported institutions is not because they have better people working in them; it is because they have a better message. Take away the message and one is left with just another secular institution with no message of hope or redemption. In one quick stroke, the Bush plan destroys both the church's independence and its integrity. Rep. Robert Scott (D-Virginia) said, If you're not proselytizing (evangelizing) in the program . you don't need charitable choice. Fund the [government] program. I'm not sure that I trust Scott's motives, but what he said is true. If the religious program is turned into a secular program, it ceases to be a religious program. And we already have plenty of government funded secular programs - we don't need any more! Those individuals and groups that want to secularize the country should enthusiastically endorse Bush's faith based funding plan, because that is exactly what will happen. The plan is a giant booby trap that, once sprung, has the potential to destroy religious freedom and independence in America. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams
In a message dated 6/29/01 10:19:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So find me if you want...I've got 158 grains of jacketed lead for you if you want to be a total moronic goofball (I always put the jacket on for visitors)... nice, i havnt had a death threat since the 60s. BTW i am forwarding this to my ISP and the FEDS. MMuuuh You pathetic little squirts are so amusing. Douche This ain't no threat UNLESS you come MY WAY!! All it is/was was a warning...keep stalking me and we'll have an issue...back the off and it's "all good"!! Methinks it funny that big talkers like yourself feel that need not only to hide behind phony screennames but also to bitch and moan like teenaged girls to your ISP!!! Change your panties "Ahab"...it's merely a fellow lister! F** H*mo!!! Bill.
[CTRL] Breast Cancer
-Caveat Lector- I thought this was interesting and wanted to share -- Original Message From: kris[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FWD:Fw: Fw: FW: FW: Fw: Information -- Breast Cancer Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:16:40 -0500 Some information for us womensomething to think about!!! A friend of mine who has rec'd chemotherapy and is now receiving Radiation at Princess Margaret hospital for breast cancer phoned me today to tell me what they have now found about causes of breast cancer. And then tonight, got the same information from another friend in Montreal. The person with the cancer has been told by the hospital to only use deodorant rather than an anti-perspirant. The reasons are outlined in the letter below. Anyway, I thought it was worth sharing: Elizabeth Morin Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry Merck Frosst Canada Co. Tel. (514) 428-3222 I'm forwarding this to everyone I know because it makes so much sense. Please forward it to everyone you care about and even those you don't. Ladies - some awareness! Gentleman - pass on to the ladies in your life! Please read this... very important... Some time ago, I attended a Breast Cancer Awareness seminar put on by Terry Birk with support from Dan Sullivan. During the Q A period I asked why the most common area for Breast Cancer was near the armpit. My question could not be answered at that time. This email was just sent to me, and I find it interesting that my question has now been answered. I challenge you all to re-think your every day use of a product that could ultimately lead to a terminal illness. As of today, I will change my use. A friend forwarded this to me. I showed it to a friend going through chemotherapy and she said she learned this fact in a support group recently. I wish I had known it 14 years ago. I just got information from a health seminar that I would like to share. The leading cause of breast cancer is the use of anti-perspirant. What? A concentration of toxins leads to cell mutations: a.k.a. CANCER. Yes, ANTI-PERSPIRANT. Most of the products out there are an antiperspirant/deodorant combination, so go home and check. Deodorant is fine but antiperspirant is not. Here's why: The human body has a few areas that it uses to purge toxins behind the knees, behind the ears, groin area, and armpits. The toxins are purged in the form of perspiration. Anti-perspirant, as the name clearly indicates, prevents you from perspiring, thereby inhibiting the body from purging toxins from below the armpits. These toxins do not just magically disappear. Instead, the body deposits them in the lymph nodes below the arms since it cannot sweat them out. Nearly all breast cancer tumors occur in the upper outside quadrant of the breast area. This is precisely where the lymph nodes are located. Additionally, Men are less likely (but not completely exempt) to develop breast cancer prompted by anti-perspirant usage because most of the anti-perspirant product is caught in their hair and is not directly applied to the skin. Women who apply anti-perspirant right after shaving increase the risk further because shaving causes almost imperceptible nicks in the skin, which give the chemicals entrance into the body from the armpit area. PLEASE pass this along to anyone you care about. Breast cancer is becoming frighteningly common. This awareness may save lives. If you are skeptical about these findings, I urge you to do some research for yourself. You will arrive at the same conclusions, I assure you. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Death Threat
In the message below you will find a death threat aimed directly at me. I request you take immediate action. b I would also like you to give me the procedure on reporting this threat to the FBI if this is the proper thing to do. Sincerely, Carl Amedio In a message dated 6/29/01 8:20:46 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj:Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams Date:6/29/01 8:20:46 PM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Shannon) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conspiracy Theory Research List) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conspiracy Theory Research List) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/29/01 7:51:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOl typical of you little pissant fascist types Yo' Carl!!! Here I am...just like you, the ONLY difference is that I lend my real and whole name to this...and for your ilk I'll say again- William Shannon Elmhurst Illinois And no, I'm not into giving you anything else but at THE VERY LEAST I sign my name and give my town!!! So find me if you want...I've got 158 grains of jacketed lead for you if you want to be a total moronic goofball (I always put the jacket on for visitors)... IMHO you've offered naught to this list save a few sophmoric rantings (that you likely heard on Limbaugh) and your AM radio-inspired "thoughts"... Pretty boring "Ahab"...but pretty typical of your lot... Hey! While you're in town why not hit the "BOYSTOWN"??? I think you'll find your fantasy there...but 'member...SAFE SEX You really are gay! (Not that that's wrong) Bill. --- Headers Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from lmailaol1.aol.com (lmailaol1.aol.com [152.163.225.33]) by air-ya05.mail.aol.com (v78_r3.8) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:20:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by lmailaol1.aol.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:36:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by LISTSERV.AOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 383725 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:20:44 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mail.aol.com [172.31.37.6]) by listserv.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00421 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id s.102.53becfb (7543) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:20:35 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_102.53becfb.286e8363_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:20:35 EDT Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] HE'S BAAACK: Elliot Abrams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fwd: PANUPS: Pesticide Fishing Spreading in Mexico
-Caveat Lector- === P A N U P S Pesticide Action Network Updates Service === Pesticide Fishing Spreading in Mexico June 29, 2001 A report released in May by the Mexican Environmental Enforcement Agency (PROFEPA) documents illegal use of pesticides for fishing in the pacific coast state of Michoacan. The report, the result of a four-month investigation, reveals that at least two insecticides are being used in fishing for langostino, a lobster-like crustacean. Langostinos are considered a delicacy and are served primarily in expensive restaurants. The chemicals being used for fishing in the region are the veterinary insecticides Batestan plus (deltamethrin) and Asuntol (coumaphos), both widely available in the region. Deltamethrin, a pyrethroid, bioaccumulates and is considered moderately toxic to humans and a suspected endocrine disruptor. It is known to be highly toxic to aquatic species, including fish, amphibeans, aquatic insects and zooplankton. Coumaphos is an organophosphate rated highly toxic to humans by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and classified as an extremely hazardous substance by the World Health Organization. It is also a cholinesterase inhibitor. PROFEPA condemned the practice of pesticide fishing but did not address the question of whether fish caught through this method posed a health risk to consumers. The agency did not investigate whether langostinos collected by pesticide fishing have been served at restaurants in tourist areas such as nearby Puerto Vallarta. Additional evidence suggests that the practice of pesticide fishing may be widespread in Mexico. In late March of this year, two men were arrested in separate incidents in Michoacan for use of Batestan plus in fishing, and more than 340 langostinos were confiscated. Anecdotal reports indicate use of unidentified pesticides in at least two communities near the El Triunfo Biosphere Reserve in the state of Chiapas. According to a government biologist working on the Pacific side of the Sierra Madre de Chiapas, people are fishing with pesticides to catch a shrimp-like crustacean locally known as piguas. In addition, in mid-2000, a Mexican environmental law nongovernmental organization, the Centro de Derecho Ambiental e Integración Económica del Sur (DASSUR), documented pesticide fishing in the Uxpanapa River, at the heart of biodiversity-rich Uxpanapa Valley in southern Veracruz near the Gulf of Mexico. In this case, health effects from consumption of contaminated fish were documented. Fishers were using Butox which, like Batestan plus, has deltamethrin as an active ingredient. Acute illnesses of both adults and children linked to consumption of contaminated fish and shrimp were documented in various townships near Ejido Palancares, where the pesticide fishing takes place. Researchers frequently heard unconfirmed rumors of frequent abortions and developmental effects in children in the region. Additional research is needed to document these impacts. DASSUR's investigation, a joint effort with PAN North America, resulted in a report and video documenting pesticide fishing in the Uxpanapa river and its effects. The project's next stage will involve further documentation of health effects, as well as education about the risks of pesticide fishing in other affected communities in Michoacan, Oaxaca and Chiapas. The project will also work to enhance the capacity of affected communities to recognize and report pesticide fishing to the proper authorities and to use local press to raise awareness about the issue. Sources: Pesca con garrapaticidas en la Selva de Uxpanapa by DASSUR in video and printed report. Available upon request from DASSUR. Denuncia PROFEPA Envenenamiento de Peces, Grupo Reforma Servicio Informativo (http://www.mural.com/occidente/articulo/092807/). Letter to Mr. Claudio Torres Nachón from Ing. Ambrosio Mayorg Guillen, from PROFEPA--Michoacan Envenenamiento de Rios en el Municipio de Arteaga para la Captura del Langostino June 19 2001, and confidential sources. For toxicity and health effect data on the pesticides, visit PANNA's pesticide database at http://www.pesticideinfo.org. Contact: Claudio Torres Nachón- Director DASSUR, Primo Verdad 23-4, Xalapa, Ver. Mexico 91000; phone (+52)28 18 2388; fax (+52) 28 18 2028; email [EMAIL PROTECTED] PANUPS is a weekly email news service providing resource guides and reporting on pesticide issues that don't always get coverage by the mainstream media. It's produced by Pesticide Action Network North America, a non-profit and non-governmental organization working to advance sustainable alternatives to pesticides worldwide. You can join our efforts! We gladly accept donations for our work and all contributions are tax deductible in the United States. Visit
Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer
-Caveat Lector- It's a hoax. http://urbanlegends.about.com/science/urbanlegends/library/blnotes8.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptoids and illegal drugs
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/29/01 3:20:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i am much too modern to take offence and whip out my khyber and get all scottish on yo ass. While the scots were (are) barbarians, the English did tame them. see the Union Jack. What the heck's a khyber? If you mean a caber (as in a caber-toss), you'd have to be a Paul Bunyan type to whip someome with one (they're large logs!). _ Get your own FREE allofyourgodsaredead.com Email account at... http://www.evilemail.com http://allofyourgodsaredead.com - Someone had to tell you. _ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hapeville molestation lawsuits could cost town $8.5 million:
-Caveat Lector- Dear list, Below please find information about this article. Sincerely, Neil Brick excerpt from http://www.geocities.com/nafcj/WaltWestHapevilleMolests.htm Hapeville molestation lawsuits could cost town $8.5 million: Details still kept secret: Community's taxpayers will foot much of the: bill. BYLINE: Ralph Ellis DATE: 05-18-1998 PUBLICATION: The Atlanta Journal and Constitution EDITION: SECTION: Newspapers__Newswires PAGE: A01; A01 Paying for the damage done by one bad employee might cost one of metro Atlanta's smaller municipalities more than the annual budget for the entire city. Nearly four years after a decorated former police officer in Hapeville was imprisoned for molesting children, Hapeville taxpayers are still paying the bills... and for the failure of Hapeville to act on complaints about ...pedophilia that began at least five years before his arrest. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
