Re: [CTRL] New Science
-Caveat Lector- All matter polarises tachyons as they pass through it The tachyons would normally be rotating about random axis but become uniform due to the polarisation. Tachyons rotating about no uniform axis are effectively inert. only when they pass though matter of any significant mass, do they polarise and create gravitational force toward the mass ie gravity. If matter is then rotated about common axis and the vector sum of the new force due to the tachyon re-polarisation *exceeds* the gravitational force. This new force would be known as anti-gravity. Remember as a child trying to turn the handlebars on your bicycle with the front wheel still turning. The apparent weightlessness of a spinning gyroscope, is due to effects of repolarisation of the already polarised tachyons that cause earths gravity. This is also the reason for the raised saucer shape of early graviton driven ET craft. I assume these craft have complex gyroscopic mechanisms in which rotating electro-magnetic flywheels are driven by coils which drive a further flywheels of a given mass density the axis of which will be offset by variable amounts enabling the new offset vector force to be directionable. Inside this flywheel would then, I assume, sit an additional flywheel and so on. A complex gyroscopic design would be nessessary to keep the forces balanced and enable any kind of controlled manouver or something like that Would anyone like to add to this, I always get confused when I mix rotational dynamics with electro-magnetics? : ) Paul - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] New Science -Caveat Lector- Question: If you spin the nucleus of certain atoms on a common axis and in the same direction, is it possible to create an antigravity force? Is the black hole radiation at the axis of revolution a clue? Any answers out there or just, ...silence Steve On 2 Jan 02, at 21:34, Steve wrote: It is time to start thinking about Antigravity and Free Energy. Steve Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/19XolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] experienced alien contact?
-Caveat Lector- Just out of curiosity I'd like to know if you've had a close encounter. I don't just mean a sighting either, I'm particularly interested if you recall an abduction, if you're homes have been invaded either as an adult or child, if you had an imaginary friend. Or a telepathic experience that may have lead to you discovering your greater perpose. (ie mission from God) Please don't be shyI won't laugh. and I 'd love to hear your story. : ) Paul P.S. Here's a song I wrote 6 years ago, you might relate to it : ) http://www.endcrew.co.uk/mp3/paulzigzag/earl.mp3 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Science
-Caveat Lector- Mr. Reilly, All matter polarises tachyons as they pass through it Where are you getting your information on tachyons from? Just curious. M. Hetland A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Science
-Caveat Lector- I recieved this information from an alien : ) - Original Message - From: Matthew A. Hetland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] New Science -Caveat Lector- Mr. Reilly, All matter polarises tachyons as they pass through it Where are you getting your information on tachyons from? Just curious. M. Hetland A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Britlandic Drug War
-Caveat Lector- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain Five-fold increase in deaths from drug prescription errors in Britains hospitals By Mike Ingram 3 January 2002 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author A report by the Audit Commissiona government-appointed watchdog that monitors health and local government standardsnotes that 1,100 people died in hospital from medication errors and adverse effects from medicines in 2000. This was more than a five-fold increase on the 200 deaths in 1999. The commission paints a devastating picture of the way medicines are managed in Britains hospitals. In addition to the tragic human costs, the problem is costing the National Health Service (NHS) £500 million a year in l onger hospital stays. In one hospital, a cancer drug was over-prescribed by 1,000 times the correct dose. Other errors detailed include a woman with breast cancer who was prescribed the sleeping tablet temazepam rather than the correct drug ta moxifen. As well as the increase in such accidental deaths, the report says the most common cause of problems with patients is complications arising from medication. Most errors are caused by the prescriber not having immediate access to accurate information about either the medicine its indications, contraindications, interactions, therapeutic dose, or side effectsor the patients allergies, other medical conditions, or laboratory results. Recommending the increased use of computer technology, the report says hand-written prescriptions or patients notes contribute to the errors, as they can be illegible, incomplete or use inappropriate shorthand. Many err ors could be eliminated through the use of computer technologya national approach is needed to introduce these systems, the report states. Also pinpointed is insufficient medical training regarding drugs; errors were most likely to happen when new doctors began work in hospitals. The report states that 7,000 individual drug doses are administered each day in a typical hospital, and estimates that spending on medicines runs at £1.5 billion a year46 percent of total hospital running costs. Pharmacy costs amount to a further £300 million per year. The commission insists, Medicines are now so central to patient care that pharmacy services need to be seen as a core clinical function, not a technical support service. But as with every other area of health, the NHS i s extremely short of pharmacists. The report found that one in six posts were currently vacant and one half of all hospitals in the UK are unable to provide all their intended pharmacy services because of staff shortages . The report is only the latest in a string of such documents highlighting one or another crisis in the NHS. Whether it is longer and larger waiting lists, rising deaths from mistakes in surgery, or drug errors, the underly ing cause is one and the same. Firstly, the NHS was systematically starved of funds throughout 18 years of Conservative governments and, secondly, nothing substantial has been done to reverse this trend since Labour came to office in 1997. Rather the problem has been compounded by the governments insistence on imposing targets for the numbers being treated at a time when services are being either starved of funds or sent out to tender in the private sector. To reverse the spiralling trend in unnecessary deaths in hospitals and provide an adequate health service for all requires the massive injection of public funds. This would mean launching a programme of recruitment and tr aining, to substantially increase the number of doctors and nurses, as well as enabling the building of a modern IT infrastructure, with a patients medical history available to all medical staff at the touch of a button. Instead, the commission proposes to tackle staff shortages through the introduction of more flexible working patterns and redesigning and enriching jobs to focus on clinical pharmacy. However, the prerequisite for th is is that the present low wage rates within the NHS are raised substantially. The report also calls for the introduction of automated dispensing and the outsourcing of non-core services, such as manufacturing. Outsourcing invariably means further privatisation, eating into NHS budgets and placing the onus on private health care corporations to cut costs in order to maximize their profits, often at the expense of patient care and safety. Copyright 1998-2001 World Socialist Web Site All rights reserved ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + +
[CTRL] Afghanlandic Access
-Caveat Lector- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : The US War in Afghanistan Oil company adviser named US representative to Afghanistan By Patrick Martin 3 January 2002 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author President Bush has appointed of a former aide to the American oil company Unocal, Afghan- born Zalmay Khalilzad, as special envoy to Afghanistan. The nomination was announced December 31, nine days after the US-backed interim government of Hamid Karzai took office in Kabul. The nomination underscores the real economic and financial interests at stake in the US military intervention in Central Asia. Khalilzad is intimately involved in the long-running US efforts to obtain direct access to the oil and gas resources of the region, largely unexploited but believed to be the second largest in the world after the Persian Gulf. As an adviser for Unocal, Khalilzad drew up a risk analysis of a proposed gas pipeline from the former Soviet republic of Turkmenistan across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean. He participated in talks between the oil company and Taliban officials in 1997, which were aimed at implementing a 1995 agreement to build the pipeline across western Afghanistan. Unocal was the lead company in the formation of the Centgas consortium, whose purpose was to bring to market natural gas from the Dauletabad Field in southeastern Turkmenistan, one of the worlds largest. The $2 billion project involved a 48-inch diameter pipeline from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border, passing near the cities of Herat and Kandahar, crossing into Pakistan near Quetta and linking with existing pipelines at Multan. An additional $600 million extension to India was also under consideration. Khalilzad also lobbied publicly for a more sympathetic US government policy towards the Taliban. Four years ago, in an op-ed article in the Washington Post, he defended the Taliban regime against accusations that it was a sponsor of terrorism, writing, The Taliban does not practice the anti-U.S. style of fundamentalism practiced by Iran. We should ... be willing to offer recognition and humanitarian assistance and to promote international economic reconstruction, he declared. It is time for the United States to reengage the Afghan regime. This reengagement would, of course, have been enormously profitable to Unocal, which was otherwise unable to bring gas and oil to market from landlocked Turkmenistan. Khalilzad only shifted his position on the Taliban after the Clinton administration fired cruise missiles at targets in Afghanistan in August 1998, claiming that terrorists under the direction of Afghan-based Osama bin La den were responsible for bombing US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. One day after the attack, Unocal put Centgas on hold. Two months later it abandoned all plans for a trans-Afghan pipeline. The oil interests began to lo ok towards a post-Taliban Afghanistan, and so did their representatives in the US national security establishment. Liasion to Islamic guerrillas Born in Mazar-e Sharif in 1951, Khalilzad hails from the old ruling elite of Afghanistan. His father was an aide to King Zahir Shah, who ruled the country until 1973. Khalilzad was a graduate student at the University of Chicago, an intellectual center for the American right- wing, when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979. Khalilzad became an American citizen, while serving as a key link between US imperialism and the Islamic fundamentalist mujahedin fighting the Soviet-backed regime in Kabulthe milieu out of which both the Taliban and bin Ladens Al Qaeda group arose. He was a special adviser to the State Department during the Reagan administration, lobbying successfully for accelerated US military aid to the mujahedin, including hand-held Stinger anti-ai rcraft missiles which played a key role in the war. He later became undersecretary of defense in the administration of Bushs father, during the US war against Iraq, then went to the Rand Corporation, a top US military th ink tank. After Bush was installed as president by a 5-4 vote of the US Supreme Court, Khalilzad headed the Bush-Cheney transition team for the Defense Department and advised incoming Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Significantl y, however, he was not named to a subcabinet position, which would have required Senate confirmation and might have provoked uncomfortable questions about his role as an oil company adviser in Central Asia and intermediar y with the Taliban. Instead, he was named to the National Security Council, where no confirmation vote was needed. At the NSC Khalilzad reports to Condoleeza Rice, the national security adviser, who also served as an oil company consultant on Central Asia. After serving in the first Bush administration from 1989 to 1992, Rice was plac ed on the board of directors of Chevron Corporation and served as its principal expert on Kazakhstan,
[CTRL] A Date with the President
-Caveat Lector- Clinton is coming to a Shoppers' Stop outlet close to you. We are giving you the opportunity to meet with him and whats more he'll even give you a gift voucher! You can chat with him on everything from the Taliban to Monica and get a nice Snap clicked with him also http://www.shoppersstop.indiatimes.com/contest1.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rafsanjani warns of WWIII
-Caveat Lector- This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25907 Thursday, January 3, 2002 Ex-president of Iran backs nuking Israel Rafsanjani warns of WWIII: 'Leave nothing on the ground' © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Former Iranian president Ali Akhbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, in a major speech, has advocated the annihilation of the state of Israel with nuclear weapons. If the Islamic world comes to possess nuclear weapons, he said in his World Al-Quds Day sermon, attended by thousands of Islamic worshippers, their use in attacking Israel would leave nothing on the ground in the Jewish state, but would only damage Islam. Here, collated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, are the core elements of Rafsanjani's speech, delivered at Tehran University on Dec. 14. The text below, rather than a single direct translation, is a composite based on reports in three Iranian newspapers Iran News (English), Kayhan (Farsi) and Al-Wifaq (Arabic). 'Artificial' state of Israel Global arrogance, led by the U.S. and U.K., is responsible for the crimes that the artificial state of Israel has been committing worldwide over the past half-century, said Rafsanjani, who currently holds the position of Expediency Council chairman. The U.N. and other segments of the arrogant world have been supporting Israeli crimes, he said, and -- cautioning against what he called global arrogance arms buildup [by the U.S.] in an attempt to revive the colonialis t era -- he asked nations and governments to prevent colonialism from attaining its goals. International Zionism, Rafsanjani added, has been the driving force of this ugly phenomenon; Zionism is divisive; a century has passed since the onset of Zionism, but not every Jew is a Zionist, and not all members of the Zionist party are Jews. He noted that the Zionist party is still highly active worldwide, and is the driving force of important events taking place in the world in connection with Israel. He called the disasters that have occurred in the half-ce ntury- old state of Israel an encyclopedia of colonial crimes. Palestinians are not the only ones to have suffered from the plan to establish this forged Israeli state; he said, adding that the Jews too are paying the p rice. Rafsanjani claimed that the Jews had a place in various parts of the world, living rather well in each country. But this phenomenon [Zionism] caused them to take a stance regarding their religious state and leave their ho mes, under pressure and in the name of migration [to Israel]. Jews should wait for a day when this extraneous matter would be removed from the region and the world of Islam, and those who have gathered together in Israe l would one day be dispersed again. The formation of the Zionist state in the land of Palestine, said the former Iranian leader, was a multi-faceted base for colonialism. By this means, the West rid itself of Zionism, while establishing it in Palestine. Mea nwhile, the colonialists affiliated themselves with Zionism and the state of Israel so as to keep them like a tool in their service, even though, for its own survival, colonialism is itself dependent on Zionism. With the formation of Israel, colonialists created insecurity in the region, exposing states to threats so as to bring them under the dominion of colonialism, said Rafsanjani. The survival of Israel depends on the interes ts of global arrogance and colonialism, and as long as this base is beneficial to them, they will preserve it. Solving 'Israel problem' with nukes Rafsanjani said that Muslims must surround colonialism and force them [the colonialists] to see whether Israel is beneficial to them or not. If one day, he said, the world of Islam comes to possess the weapons currently i n Israel's possession [meaning nuclear weapons] -- on that day this method of global arrogance would come to a dead end. This, he said, is because the use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, wher eas it will only damage the world of Islam. Is unlikely that the Palestinian jihad will weaken, said Rafsanjani, who explained that the Palestinians have come to the conclusion that talks [with Israel] are effective only along with struggle and self-sacrifice the two key elements that gave way to the second Intifada. The Palestinian jihad is the mother of many Islamic movements, he said, ranging from the [1979] Islamic Revolution in Iran to Islamic movements in Lebanon, Afghanist an, Malaysia, Central Asia, and many other Muslim states. All these Islamic movements support the Palestinian jihad and have not forgotten it. The Palestinian jihad has its roots in the homelessness of five million people . Undoubtedly, [this jihad's] culmination will be the liberation of Palestine, he said. The threat of WWIII Rafsanjani added
[CTRL] plan for Afghan partition
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=5652002 Thu 3 Jan 2002 Released papers reveal plan for Afghan partition Gavin Cordon BRITISH diplomats in the 1950s secretly discussed dividing up Afghanistan between the neighbouring powers of Russia and Pakistan, according to official files made public for the first time yesterday. Amid concerns that the country might slide into chaos and anarchy, one senior Foreign Office official suggested that its ultimate disappearance would be no great tragedy. However, papers released to the Public Record Office show the British ambassador in Kabul, John Gardener, cautioned against military intervention, warning that an invading army could be tied down for years fighting a guerrilla war. With Cold War tensions mounting, British diplomats in the early 1950s were becoming increasingly concerned that a weakened Afghanistan could no longer provide an effective buffer between an expansionist Soviet Union and the Indian sub-continent. Foreign Office officials began floating the idea that the best solution was to divide the country between Russia and Pakistan along the line of the Hindu Kush. In June 1951, one senior diplomat, RH Scott, wrote to Gardener pointing out that the French were already suggesting that the obvious solution to the problems of the region was to engineer a partition. If there is to be an upheaval sometime, as looks not unlikely, the ultimate disappearance of Afghanistan (as we now know it) might be no tragedy. In modern conditions Afghan viability may in the long run be doubtful, he wrote. While he acknowledged there were, in theory, advantages to partition, he warned that such a strategy was fraught with danger for both Pakistan and for the Western powers. The Afghan army could offer no effective resistance to modern forces bent on occupation. The subsequent resistance of some of the inhabitants would, however, cause headaches to the occupying forces, he said. These people, jealous of their independence, stubborn and brave fighters of the guerrilla type on their own terrain, would make the life of an occupying force a misery. This article: http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=5652002 ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Spotting the face
-Caveat Lector- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1739000/1739413.stm Wednesday, 2 January, 2002, 20:24 GMT Spotting the face of deception Heat coming off the face can be used to detect liars By BBC News Online's Helen Briggs The airports of the future could identify potential terrorists by using a lie detector that spots concealed blushing with a super- sensitive thermal imaging camera. Liars are betrayed by the heat that rushes to their face when they tell a fib, according to scientists in the United States. There is an urgent need to devise technologies to identify individuals intending to perform acts of terrorism Mayo clinic team Blood flow to the surface of the skin around the eyes increases when someone tells a lie. The tiny hot spots are invisible to the naked eye but can be measured by thermal imaging, says a team led by James Levine of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. The researchers believe the new test could be used under cover at airports to identify potential terrorists. They write in the journal Nature: There is an urgent need to devise technologies that can be used for automated, high-throughput screening to identify individuals intending to perform acts of terrorism. At present, airports have to rely on a passenger's response to brief questions such as: Did you pack your own bags? Hands-off approach The new system was tested on 20 volunteers who were told to carry out a fake crime. The individuals were asked to stab a mannequin and rob it of $20, before pleading their innocence when questioned. Another group of people who had no knowledge of the crime were also tested with thermal imaging. Using the equipment, the scientists managed to correctly identify as guilty seventy-five percent of the 'criminals', while 90% of the 'innocent' group were successfully cleared of blame. The results were as good as those from a traditional polygraph, or lie detector test. The best technology we have available to us ... is the human brain Philip Baum, Airport Security International Polygraphs, which have been used for many years, are accepted in some courts of law. They monitor physiological signs like breathing, sweat production and cardiovascular activity. But they have to be carried out by highly trained operators and the results take time to analyse. The new method has the advantage that it is instant and can be used without physical contact by untrained staff in a variety of different situations. Philip Baum, Editor of Aviation Security International, said further trials of the test were needed under real-life conditions. He told BBC News Online: It shows promise but there's a long way to go. We can't become overly reliant on technology except for the best technology we have available to us and that is the human brain. ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
[CTRL] lull in Israeli-Palestinian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=112278disp layTypeCd=1sideCd=1contrassID=2 w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m Background / A new religious-secular battle comes to the fore In a sure sign of a lull in Israeli-Palestinian bloodletting, fighting across the religious-secular divide flared Monday, spurred by a bill to redefine the great chimera of Israeli politics: the legal status quo surrounding the Jewish Sabbath. Traditionally, infighting over such sensitive religious issues as Who is a Jew? and Sabbath traffic and commerce laws, has been stilled during times of military strife, often resurfacing the moment that war, terrorism or uprisings are quieted down. This week was no exception. Aiming to forge a broad consensus over one of the nation's most contentious issues, senior lawmakers from five key parties - the Likud, Labor, Shas, the National Religious and Center factions - joined forces to mold a new law they believed could quell long- smoldering debates over public regulations governing the Sabbath. The bill would forbid a wide range of commercial and manufacturing activities during the Sabbath. At the same time, the proposed law would turn a blind eye to the operation of establishments providing entertainment - including restaurants, bars, cafes, theaters and cinemas - and would allow privately operated public transportation. In fact, comments Ha'aretz correspondent Dalia Shehori, the bill does not spell out the liberalizing elements of the law, rather they are implied in what it does not prohibit. Our entire goal was to reach a form of agreement over what was permissible and what was forbidden, said a co-sponsor of the bill, Nahum Langental of the National Religious Party. Every law is worded with a negative mea ning. It says what it prohibits ... If only that is what it prohibits, that alone is what is forbidden. The range of other things to my sorrow, as an observant man, I must say apparently will be permitted on the Sabba th. Langental suggested that in return for a ban on selling and production of goods - strictly forbidden by Jewish tradition on the Sabbath - some religious politicians would be willing to bend on what avowedly non-religious figures have extolled in recent years as secular culture: live theater, film, nightlife and other leisure activities. We banned commerce, but we are remaining silent on other matters, because we understand that this is a part of secular culture, of how they want to experience it on the Sabbath, and this will be permissible for them, La ngental said. Instead of healing wounds, however, the new bill seemed only to open old ones. It is most bizarre to see the weakness of thought which has attacked the secular parties, which have suddenly decided to grant a hechsher [rabbinical certificate of approval] to religious coercion, said leftist oppositi on leader Yossi Sarid of the secular Meretz party, a portion of whose constituency are kibbutz members whose economic livelihood is based in part on kibbutz-owned shopping centers which flourish on the Sabbath. The language of the bill does not specifically rule out operation of kibbutz-owned stores, but Sarid said that would be the effect of the legislation. Most of the Israeli population requires these shopping centers to buy the goods their families need, and I see no reason to keep hundreds of thousands of families from living the lives they prefer, he said. But religious Israelis countered that Sarid's contention reflected precisely why such a new law was needed. They said that the culture of driving on Sabbath to make purchases - acts proscribed by Jewish law - was also c ontributing to an American-style materialism that threatened to undermine traditional values in Israel. For a wary Chief Rabbi Israel Meir Lau, the jury was still out on the new bill. Lau strongly backed the prohibitions on commerce and manufacturing, but had clear reservations over easing limitations on leisure activities. Alluding to kibbutzim and other settlements that have built shopping malls on land intended for agriculture, Lau said the current reality was an impossible one, with lax enforcement effectively permitting violations of bo th Jewish and Israeli law that led to businesses being open on the Sabbath. Instead of this soil being used for making the wasteland bloom, it has been turned into stores to sell shoes and toys on the Holy Sabbath, he s aid. Today the situation is one almost of cancellation of the Sabbath, and if there is an element of reducing the damage of Sabbath desecration, then there is definitely something to talk about, said Lau, who added: No one could expect a rabbi to come out and say 'I can allow, or close my eye, to Sabbath desecration. Lau warned of a risk that if the message of the importance of the Sabbath is not adequately put across to the public, then it will be very difficult to enforce a law like this
[CTRL] bushfires rage
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,627132,00.html 11.30am update Thousands flee as bushfires rage Staff and agencies Thursday January 3, 2002 The Guardian Fast-moving forest fires cut off two tiny Australian coastal villages today after destroying as many as 20 houses in a third town nearby, forcing thousands of evacuees to seek shelter on the beach. More than 7,000 people, many of them summer holidaymakers, ran for their lives last night when the inferno raced into Sussex Inlet, a resort about 120 miles south of Sydney, police said. On Thursday afternoon the blaze swept north, cutting off roads to the nearby towns of Bendalong and Berringer Lake and trapping 2,000 people, said local rural fire service spokeswoman June Webster. The blaze was one of more than 100, dubbed the black Christmas fires, which have brought havoc to Australia's most populous state, New South Wales, for 11 days, blackening hundreds of thousands of acres of bush and farm land. No lives have been lost, but more than 160 houses have been destroyed to the north, west and south of Sydney, a city of four million people. Fires were also burning on scrubland in its northern suburbs, threatening hundreds more homes. Insurance officials estimate damages at A$70m (£25m). More than 20,000 firefighters are battling the flames, which stretch for a total of more than 1,200 miles across the state. Helicopters are dumping water on the fires, and in some places fire crews pumped water from backyard swimming pools, or even used buckets. We were in the eye of the storm, said Julie Adler, who witnesses the fire at Sussex Inlet. We had fire all around us. It was absolutely horrendous. Many people braved choking smoke and a fast-moving wall of fire as they drove out of the resort. Firefighters, mostly volunteers, went from house to house saving lives and property. Cut off by 50ft flames that jumped roads, other people ran to the safety of the open beach and community clubhouses. More than 300 people slept in tents erected on a football field at a nearby navy base. They stayed there as the immediate danger passed, too frightened to move amid fears that erratic winds might whip up new spot fires. Officials denied allegations that the blaze was the result of bungled backburning by overworked and fatigued fire crews. Later, the fire raced around Bendalong and Berringer Lake where residents also sought safety on beaches. Other big fires were reported in the Blue Mountains, 50 miles west of Sydney, prompting many residents to leave their homes as a precaution. At least half of the wildfires have been started deliberately. Police have arrested 21 arson suspects, including 14 juveniles aged between nine and 16 years, who have been characterised as troublemakers bored during the c urrent summer school holidays. An outraged New South Wales government has promised to punish the offenders severely for what the state premier, Bob Carr, said were acts of madness and wickedness. While adult offenders would face prison terms of up to 14 years, young firebugs would be made to confront burn victims and families who lost homes, and work on rehabilitation projects for scorched forests. Today temperatures, that had climbed above 38C (100F) earlier in the week, dropped and brought some relief. However, there was no sign of desperately needed rain, and westerly winds roared in from Australia's arid outback , fanning flames and scattering red-hot embers to start new blazes. Thick smoke has shrouded Sydney for days. The magnitude of the crisis has been highlighted by reports from New Zealand, 1,400 miles to the east of mainland Australia, that ash blown high into the atmosphere has produced dramatic crimson sunsets. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002 ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up
[CTRL] 'Micks' no better than 'Prods'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2002/0103/1369434257HMSPRACHE L.html Devious 'Micks' no better than 'Prods' claimed British official For the first time since it was established in 1972, the Northern Ireland Office released some of its secret documents. These shed light on the attitudes of civil servants toward the two tribes. In his final letter to the British government on March 6th, 1970, after spending six months seconded to Northern Ireland, Wright described Northern Irish society as tribal. In his appraisal of the two communities, he said the natives and Scots Calvinist colonists stranded by partition liked each other about as well as dog and cat, Arab and Jew, Greek and Turkish Cypriot, separated from birth by ghettos and by educational apartheid. Although more sinned against than sinning, he observed, Catholics were far from blameless when it came to Northern Ireland's problems. And in language rarely used in official British circles, he wrote: In true Irish fashion the Micks have enjoyed provoking the Prods as much as the Prods have enjoyed retaliating. It makes the Prods' blood boil - and all Irish blood boils at very low temperature - to see the Micks enjoying the superior material benefits of the British connection while continuing to wave the Tricolour at them. Protestants didn't escape Wright's waspish tongue either. Many were driven by a desire for hatred and vengeance and too many looked to the one man with charisma in Ulster, a man of God, the Rev Ian Paisley, to give it to them. It was no surprise that Ulstermen seemed naturally pessimistic. They have a lot to be pessimistic about, he added. In 1970 Britain's ambassador to Ireland said the Taoiseach, Mr Lynch, deserved his reputation for political and personal integrity but expressed concern about the future of his party leadership. In another document, a note to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office intended as part of a briefing for the prime minister, Edward Heath, Sir John Peck observed that Lynch enjoyed support for his peace policy, the practice of Fianna Fáil closing its ranks when in trouble and his skilful political attitude. But he noted that Lynch's political survival depended on many factors, including reform in Northern Ireland and that the Arms Trial should not end in acquittals or a farcical denouement . . . Britain's most senior army officer delivered a devastating critique of the RUC at the start of the Troubles, describing it as behind the times, poorly led, and with a sadly inefficient special branch. Gen Sir Geoffr ey Baker, chief of the general staff, who visited Northern Ireland as the Labour government sent in troops, was shocked at what he saw. The RUC special branch, he said, was badly organised and run, with the result that s peculation and guesswork largely replace intelligence. Moreover, the RUC only told NI ministers what it deemed fit they should hear, said Sir Geoffrey. - (Guardian Service) ©The Irish Times ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. ---
Re: [CTRL] New Science
-Caveat Lector- I thought that was where all the good, up-to-date information on gravitational wave physics came from :) M. Hetland I recieved this information from an alien : ) - Original Message - From: Matthew A. Hetland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] New Science -Caveat Lector- Mr. Reilly, All matter polarises tachyons as they pass through it Where are you getting your information on tachyons from? Just curious. M. Hetland A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Guardsman shoots self at SFO
-Caveat Lector- FYI Here is a report form the Torrance, CA Daily Breeze that should make all air travelers feel safer. Hint: Always keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. San Francisco (AP) A National Guardsman accidentally shot himself at San Francisco Internatrional Airport last week while trying to remove his gun from his holster. Louis E. Alvarez, a National Guard Specialist, was going off duty about 11 pm Friday when the accident happened, according to SFC Tom Jacobs. He was going through a procedure to make sure his M-9 pistol was clear of ammunition when he had trouble removing the gun from its holster and it went off. The shot went through his hip and exited at his buttocks. Alvarez was taken to San Francisco General Hospital and was released Saturday afternoon. The Shooting happened at a courtyard in the international terminal away from passengers. Jacobs said the National Guard had opened a formal investigation. San Francisco police also investigated. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Kids Arrested for NOT Watching Commercials
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - Students locked up after refusing to watch Channel One When Ohioteenagers DJ and Carlotta Maurer walked out of their classrooms inOctober to protest the compulsory viewing of Channel One, a televisionprogram with commercials which is shown in schools across America,school officials realized they had a couple of dangerous radicals ontheir hands. Principal Patrick Calvin invoked the truancy provision ofthe school's code of student conduct, and 13-year-old DJ and14-year-old Carlotta were whisked away to the Wood County JuvenileDetention Center, where they had all day to consider their crime.Since then, Commercial Alert and Obligation, Inc., two nationalanti-media groups, have taken up the Maurers' cause. The groups wroteto Ohio Governor Bob Taft, urging him to remove Channel One from allpublic schools."When the government sends children to a juvenile detention centerbecause they don't want to watch advertising, that is both Orwellianand more than a little sick," reads the letter. "The public schoolsought to be a sanctuary from the noxious aspects of commercialculture."The governor has not responded to the letter. But the school is innegotiation with the Maurers, who have religious objections totelevision. It seems a day in the lockup didn't cool their heelsenough to keep them from kicking.- Eliza Strickland www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: All Carlyle Executives were Out of Town on 9-11
---BeginMessage--- http://www.efinancialnews.com/archive/ Banking and investment industries face aftermath of US tragedy Staff reporters - 12 Sep 2001 updated at 14:55 GMT A spokeswoman for the Carlyle Group, with offices on Madison Avenue, said the building had been cleared, but that most of the firm's executives were at an investor conference in Washington. The city was also subject to a suicide bomber's attack on the Pentagon. Carlyle's executives are stranded in Washington for the time being, because all internal and external flights in the US are suspended. ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] THE WHITE SPEC TO THE RIGHT OF THE TOWERS
-Caveat Lector- From: Mike Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've probably all seen it before. Still the SPEC remains somewhat of a CURIOSITY. Not to those of us in the NYC metro broadcast area It's a helicopter. One of the main video clips that is constantly shown over and over again of the 2nd plane hitting the WTC shows the opposite angle that the clip on this website shows...IOW, the clip on the website shows the towers from a viewpoint to the west viewing east, while the clip that is usually broadcast over and over again on the media shows the WTC from a viewpoint to the east and somewhat south, viewing westDOH! Right where 'the mysterious spec' is on the website's clip... The video that was taken from the east and south of the WTC viewing west was done by WCBS' traffic helicopter which was broadcasting live; I know, I watched it live, and it indeed moved in the direction described on the website after the 2nd plane hit -- gee, I guess the idea of a media helicopter shooting video from another direction, and then moving to get a better view of the 2nd hit is just not exotic enough for some fevered imaginations... This particular media helicopter was located just where the 'spec' is on the website's video clip, and would have presumably noticed an alien spaceship hovering in the area, as would the at least half dozen other media helicopters that were buzzing around the breaking story of the first WTC plane crash. On any weekday there are at least a half dozen traffic helicopters broadcasting for the many NYC television stations, not to mention quite a few NYC radio stations who also have their own traffic helicopters... I've seen video of the 2nd plane crashing taken from at least 4 different angles; there is the one shown on the website in question (which obviously had to have been taken from a hovering helicopter itself); there is another one view of the 2nd plane taken from a helicopter that was a little to the south of the viewpoint shown on the website, so that the plane is seen heading more directly toward the camera; there is the view that I described above, taken from a hovering helicopter opposite the above 2 helicopters, both of which had to be over the Hudson River -- this 3rd view was shot by a helicopter hovering over lower Manhattan, pointing towards the Hudson River; the 4th view I've seen was from a helicopter hovering over Manhattan to the north of the towers, and shows the plane coming from the north and crashing into the south tower -- the side that was crashed into is directly facing the camera... So to reiterate -- I've seen at least 4 separate videos of the 2nd crash, 2 of which were taken by helicopters hovering to the west of the towers over the Hudson River, pointing east; one hovering to the east of the towers over lower Manhattan, pointing west; and a 4th hovering to the north of the towers over midtown Manhattan, pointing south... I'm sure that there were even more helicopters in the area that were reporting for the many radio stations, and so didn't shoot any video but were definitely cluttering up the airspace around the WTC... June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wrong Again, June......
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well June once again you are incorrect - so call me a liar again... In regards to you saying the art exhibit was in the entry of the library, yes you ARE a liar... I worked with a real pro astrologer who was astrologer to Ronald Reagan, a Queen, and other numerous prominent figures - her name was Sybil Leek. Who you have trashed in other posts, so why should we give any credence to her supposed astrological expertise... Leek billed herself as a witch, not an astrologer; give us some direct quotes regarding what she's said regarding the supposed astrological properties of Saturn... I said Saturn stood for decay; you stated this was incorrect? Check your facts June, and go fly a kite - that Rainbow Kite you maintain you fly outside your apartment. I've never said I flew any sort of a kite outside of my apartment, rainbow or otherwise... And you claiming that I did, and your continual lies regarding the art exhibit in the library, shows just how much credence we should put into your 'memories' of Sybil Leek and what she supposedly said or wrote... Maybe you are not aware that orientals and royals still (including the royal family of Nepal murdered by infiltrators) all follow astrology - often used as a method of communication. What does THAT have to do with anything? I was just pointing out what Saturn REALLY stands for in astrology, I was not commenting on the validity of astrology nor on whom believes in it... Prince Charles, who we all know you hate, also follows astrology... Once again your lack of knowledge is obvious; further as I recall the last time Jupiter and Saturn were above New York City and of course other areas, duh..was in 1782; therefore it was not a common occurrence. Again, what does that have to do with the price of coffee in Brazil? I made no comment on whether this was a common occurance or not; what I pointed out was YOUR error in claiming that this astronomical alignment only occured over New York, while the article you were referring to itself pointed out that the same alignment would be seen over any city in the northern hemisphere...so while it may not be a common alignment, it was NOT unique to NYC... Better check out this Baade while you are at it who did live in Netherlands who claimed to see Icarus that day in 1968 when nobody else did.though years laer NASA noted they had I think you need to discuss your meds with your doctor...they obviously need to be adjusted A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Threats and Counter-Threats Over Kashmir
---BeginMessage--- Title: MER Email MER articles by month 2002-- 2000 2001 January-- January February March April May June July August September October November December Both India and Kashmiri Fighters Issue New Threats MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 1/02/02: The year 2002 may well see terrible potentially catastrophic destruction in many parts of the world, including the Sub-continent, the Arabian Peninsula, and the area of the Middle East once known as the Holy Land. The conflicts in these regions are not being settled, they are in fact being inflamed. And the historic expansion of the American "War Against Terrorism" into an excuse to enforce a Pax America creates asituation of unending tensionand untold blowback in the years now immediately ahead. India Says It Would Use All Military Might in Defense By Penny MacRae and Robert Birsel NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD (Reuters - 1/02/02) - Nuclear-armed India said Wednesday it was prepared to use its full military might to defend itself amid threats by Pakistan-based Islamic guerrilla groups to mount further attacks on the country. Nuclear rivals Pakistan and India have come to the brink of war following an assault last month on India's parliament which New Delhi blamed on Pakistan-based Kashmiri separatists. "Whatever weapon is available, we will use it to defend ourselves," Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee said in his constituency of Lucknow in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh. "And if because of that weapon the attacker is defeated ... if he is killed, we should not be held responsible," said Vajpayee, who analysts say is under pressure to appear tough ahead of state elections in the politically crucial state of Uttar Pradesh. India carried out nuclear tests in 1998 which were followed by tit-for-tat blasts by Pakistan. It has adopted a "no first use" policy for its nuclear weapons, saying they would only be used in retaliation. But Pakistan, whose conventional forces are far inferior, has not adopted a similar policy. Following the parliament attack in which 14 people died, India demanded that Pakistan crack down on Muslim militants operating from its soil against India and said all options were open including war unless Islamabad acted. Earlier the country's Defense Minister George Fernandes told Reuters that Indian forces had completed their biggest-ever buildup but were "not in battle positions." He held out hope that diplomacy could still avert a war with Pakistan. "Efforts are being made to defuse the situation through diplomatic intervention," he said. URGING RESTRAINT All political parties in India are urging the government to use diplomacy as the first choice. But Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad, accused of the parliament attack, threatened fresh violence. Security was tightened at India's famed Taj Mahal monument after Indian officials they said they had received an e-mail from Lashkar-e-Taiba threatening to blow up the landmark to love. And Jaish-e-Mohammad said in a statement published in newspapers in the revolt-racked Kashmir region that they would carry out new attacks on Indian security forces. "We are in possession of more deadly and sophisticated weapons and they will be fully used against the military and paramilitary forces of India in the coming days," the group said. Hours later a grenade exploded in Srinagar, Kashmir's main city, wounding 20 people including five policemen, police said. Elsewhere, in a space of 24 hours, 18 people were killed across strife-torn Kashmir, India's only Muslim-majority state. The border remained tense as Indian police said four Pakistani soldiers were killed when Indian and Pakistani troops fired mortars and heavy machineguns across the frontier. Pakistan has so far rounded up around 100 activists in response to India's demands to arrest militants, according to officials of the Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba. India has called the arrests a step in the right direction. But Jaish-e-Mohammad said it would seek to escape the net by shifting its offices into the Indian-controlled part of the Kashmir which covers two-thirds of the disputed region. Amid mounting international alarm about the specter of war, President Bush has weighed in with calls for restraint by both parties, telephoning Vajpayee and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf urging talks. British Prime Minister Tony Blair was due to arrive in the subcontinent later this week but his government played down talk he might act as a peace broker. NO BLAIR PEACE PLAN "There is no Blair peace plan that the prime minister could or should take out of his pocket," Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said in London. Independent political analyst Prem Shankar Jha said it
[CTRL] Fwd: Hamas has Saudi Links
---BeginMessage--- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2002001669,00.html London Times THURSDAY JANUARY 03 2002 Hamas 'has Saudi links' FROM CHRISTOPHER WALKER IN JERUSALEM ISRAEL disclosed yesterday, on the eve of a new US peace mission, that it had arrested a Hamas activist who had been to Saudi Arabia to arrange funding for a home-made missile industry for Palestinian terrorists. The disclosure of Saudi involvement in the escalating Islamic campaign being mounted against Israel has added a dimension to the war against terror for which Israel claims justification in the same way as the US is fighting backers of Osama bin Laden. A spokesman for Ariel Sharon, the Prime Minister, said that detailed documents found two weeks ago on the activist, named as Osama Karika, 27, and recruited in the Gaza Strip last August by Nidal Farhat, a leading Hamas guerrilla, had provided detailed information about the group¹s attempt to build a short-range missile industry for use in the West Bank. He claimed that the details had been passed to Yassir Arafat¹s ³security mechanisms², but that no action had been taken against Mr Farhat so far. Earlier, Mr Sharon told Jan Petersen, Norway¹s Foreign Minister: ³Arafat is neither carrying out counter-terrorist operations nor making arrests.² The same information will be passed to the US envoy, Anthony Zinni, who begins a four-day mission today. ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Bill Blum on 911
---BeginMessage--- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/911/quiz.htm http://www.konformist.com/911/flyer.htm http://www.konformist.com/911/quiz.htm This test consists of one (1) multiple-choice question (so you better get it right!) Here's a list of the countries that the U.S. has bombed since the end of World War II, compiled by historian William Blum: China 1945-46 Korea 1950-53 China 1950-53 Guatemala 1954 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-60 Guatemala 1960 Congo 1964 Peru 1965 Laos 1964-73 Vietnam 1961-73 Cambodia 1969-70 Guatemala 1967-69 Grenada 1983 Libya 1986 El Salvador 1980s Nicaragua 1980s Panama 1989 Iraq 1991-99 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 In how many of these instances did a democratic government, respectful of human rights, occur as a direct result? Choose one of the following: (a) 0 (b) zero (c) none (d) not a one (e) a whole number between -1 and +1 (The list doesn't include Iran and Chile, both of which the US didn't bomb but backed thuggish coups.) But, hey, glad we're going to end our streak of mistakes by backing a government in Afghanistan that respects women and human rights, because as our track record clearly shows, we're quite concerned about that, far more than we are about relatively unimportant things like oil or natural resources. http://www.konformist.com/911/flyer.htm Flyer that should be dropped over the United States This brief commentary comes courtesy of Bill Blum, author of Killing Hope and Rogue State. United States military flyer dropped over Afghanistan Do you enjoy being ruled by the Taliban? Are you proud to live a life of fear? Are you happy to see the place your family has owned for generations a terrorist training site? Do you want a regime that is turning Afghanistan into the Stone Age and giving Islam a bad name? Are you proud to live under a government that harbors terrorists? Are you proud to live in a nation ruled by extreme fundamentalists? The Taliban have robbed your country of your culture and heritage. They have destroyed your national monuments, and cultural artifacts. They rule by force, violence, and fear based on the advice of foreigners. They insist that their form of Islam is the one and only form, the true form, the divine form. They see themselves as religious experts, even though they are ignorant. They kill, commit injustice, keep you in poverty and claim it is in the name of God. * Flyer that should be dropped over the United States: Do you enjoy being ruled by the Republican-Democratic Party? Are you proud to live a life of fear, insecurity and panic? Are you happy to see the place your family has owned for generations taken away by a bank? Do you want a regime that is turning the United States into a police state and giving Christianity a bad name? Are you proud to live under a government that harbors hundreds of terrorists in Miami? Are you proud to live in a nation ruled by extreme capitalists and religious conservatives? The capitalists have robbed your country of your equality and justice. They have destroyed your national parks and rivers and corrupted your media, your elections and your personal relations. They rule by threat of unemployment, hunger, and homelessness based on the advice of a god called the market. They insist that their form of organizing a society and remaking the world is the one and only form, the true form, the divine form. They see themselves as morality experts, even though they are ignorant. They bomb, invade, assassinate, torture, overthrow, commit injustice, keep you and the world in poverty and claim it is in the name of God. Bill Blum Author: Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower http://members.aol.com/superogue/homepage.htm The above US military flyer and other flyers dropped by the US can be read at: http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/18/ret.flyers/ If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit: http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: I NEED 2 KONFORM!!! (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Pedophocracy, Part V
---BeginMessage--- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy5.htm The Pedophocracy, Part V: It Couldn't Happen Here By David McGowan (McGowan is the author of Derailing Democracy and Understanding the F- Word,and is also the administrator of the website The Center for an Informed America) Prosecutor Dan Casey: Did you exercise any kind of mind control over your wife in order to get her to have sexual contact? Frank Fuster: If I had that power, you think I would use it against ? You know ... I don't ... I have never. I'm a normal human being. On August 8, 1984, Bobby Dean stood on the front lawn of the Fuster home in the Country Walk housing development - a picture-perfect, planned community of relatively upscale suburban homes in Dade County, Florida. By all appearances, this was a small slice of paradise an oasis untouched by the grim realities of American society. On this day though, Dean had a loaded gun in his waistband and he fully intended to use it. He was there to finish the job that someone else had failed to complete on December 18 of 1980. On that day, an unidentified assailant had confronted Francisco Fuster Escalona (aka Frank Fuster) at his place of business and shot him once in the side of the head. Fuster survived the attack, which he explained to the police as a botched robbery, though the officers thought it looked more like an attempted execution. Dean didn't get the chance to make another attempt; police were on the scene in short order to arrest him. Fuster himself surrendered to police two days later in response to the issuance of an arrest warrant. He had been under investigation following accusations by neighborhood parents that he and his wife, Iliana, had been brutally abusing their children while in the trusted care of the Fuster's babysitting service run out of their Country Walk home. Fuster had, shall we say, rather questionable qualifications to run a day care center. On January 16, 1969, Fuster pumped two shots into the heart of a fellow motorist in New York City, killing him instantly. An off-duty police officer was, curiously enough, an eyewitness to the summary execution. Even more curiously, Fuster chambered another round and pointed his gun directly at the armed officer and yet wasn't shot. He was arrested though, and tried and convicted before the year was out. On Halloween day (needless to say, yet another occult holiday), he was sentenced to a ten year prison term. He was back on the streets in less than four, after which he received `psychiatric care.' In November of 1982, he was convicted again this time of a lewd assault on a nine-year-old girl. Despite being his second felony conviction, Fuster was sentenced to just two years probation. It was while on probation for the child molestation conviction that Fuster and his underage wife started up the babysitting service. His probation officer apparently had no problem with this business venture, although it brought Fuster into unsupervised contact with at least fifty kids. At least thirty of them were horrifically abused. Fuster's probation officer also had no problem with the fact that Frank had self-terminated his court-ordered psychiatric treatment in August of 1983. No one really seems to have been too concerned about Fuster's babysitting service, which - in addition to being run by a convicted child molester - was operating without proper licensing and in violation of local zoning laws. Commercial enterprises were expressly forbidden in the residential community. Nevertheless, the service operated with the full knowledge of the entity managing the complex. In fact, Fuster's service used the name Country Walk Babysitting Service, implying that his was an officially sanctioned service provided for the community. The management company, Arvida, denied there were ever any official links to the Fuster operation after Frank's past and present activities were revealed. This, of course, was to be expected. Given that Arvida was a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company, it wouldn't really do to be perceived as having connections to a child molestation operation. The fact remains though that the company took no actions against Fuster for the illegal expropriation of the `Country Walk' name or for violating zoning regulations. Dade County also took a hands-off approach to the Fuster business enterprise. Despite the fact that Frank lacked other required licenses, the convicted murderer was issued an occupational license to run the babysitting service. Detective Donna Meznarich was the first police investigator sent to look into the allegations being made by the Country Walk parents. She was openly skeptical of the charges before she even knew what they actually were. The parents felt that she came calling with
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Pedophocracy, Part VI
---BeginMessage--- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/2001/pedophocracy6.htm The Pedophocracy, Part VI: Finders Keepers By David McGowan (McGowan is the author of Derailing Democracy and Understanding the F- Word,and is also the administrator of the website The Center for an Informed America) Little girls have to learn that their fathers are off limits when it comes to gratification of sexual feelings Dr. Richard Gardner, another vocal member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, explaining how children are to blame for their molestation (in The Toronto Star, February 4, 1996) Just a few years later, yet another case broke in the state of Florida. On February 7 of 1987, not long before the Franklin and the Spence cases broke, the Washington Post ran an interesting story that did not at the time seem to have any particular national significance. The article concerned a case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and read in part as follows: Authorities investigating the alleged abuse of six children found with two men in a Tallahassee, Fla., park discovered material yesterday in the Washington area that they say points to a 1960's style commune called the Finders, described in a court document as a 'cult' that allegedly conducted 'brainwashing' and used children 'in rituals.' D.C. police, who searched a Northeast Washington warehouse linked to the group removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs and photographic contact sheets. Some photos visible through a bag carried from the warehouse at 1307 Fourth St. NE were wallet-sized pictures of children, similar to school photos, and some were of naked children. D.C. police sources said some of the items seized yesterday showed pictures of children engaged in what appeared to be 'cult rituals.' Officials of the U.S. Customs Service, called in to aid in the investigation, said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains. Customs officials said they were looking into whether a child pornography operation was being conducted ... Their links to the D.C. area have led authorities into a far-reaching investigation that includes the Finders - a group of about 40 people that court documents allege is led by a man named Marion Pettie - and their various homes, including the duplex apartment building in Glover Park, the Northeast Washington warehouse and a 90 acre farm in rural Madison County, Va. ... The children, identified in a court document only by the first names of Honeybee, John, Franklin, Bee Bee, Max and Mary, were described as 'dirty, unkempt, hungry, disturbed and agitated.' They had been living in the rear of the van for some time, the document said. Yesterday, police spokesman Hunt said one of the children, a 6 yr. old girl, 'showed signs of sexual abuse' ... Five of the children were uncommunicative, according to police, and none seemed to recognize objects such as typewriters and staplers. However, the oldest was able to give investigators some information. She said that the two men 'were their teachers,' according to Hunt ... Before their arrests in the park, [the two adult caretakers] had told police that they were teachers from Washington 'transporting these children to Mexico and a school for brilliant children,' according to Hunt. When police asked the men where the children's mothers were they said they were being weaned from their mothers. This was just one of many such stories that emerged across the country in the late 1980s, a phenomenon that would quickly be denounced as a `witch hunt' and as a `satanic panic.' It would be nearly seven years before the press would revisit this particular manifestation of what would come to be regarded as a modern-day case of mass hysteria. It was the U.S. News and World Report that would ultimately provide the follow-up to the Finders story, but this was certainly not in the interest of shining any light on the earlier allegations. Most likely, the strange saga of the Finders would have disappeared forever if not for the rumors surrounding the case that just wouldn't seem to go away. These rumors were addressed in the U.S. News report as follows: One of the unresolved questions involves allegations that the Finders are somehow linked to the Central Intelligence Agency. Customs Service documents reveal that in 1987, when Customs agents sought to
[CTRL] Fwd: YOU'VE BEEN HACKED
---BeginMessage--- YOU'VE BEEN HACKED AOL/Time Warner announced that its Instant Message software has a security hole. AOL is warning its users that the hole can allow hackers to take complete control of their systems. AOL is promising a fix for the security breach. SUPER-COMPUTERS FOR RUSSIA AND CHINA The Bush administration has agreed to allow Intel and Motorola to export high-speed computer systems and chips to Russia, China, India and Pakistan. No word on whether required end user checks will be made to ensure that military weapons designers will not acquire the super-high speed chips. The Clinton administration previously allowed high-speed computers to be exported to military end users inside Russia and China, resulting in a new arms race of advanced nuclear weapons. XP CELL PHONE FEATURE A curious feature of Microsoft Windows XP automatically recognizes cell phones equipped with infrared light links. The feature could allow hackers unauthorized and unlimited access a cell phone with no apparent physical connection. The feature installs the cell phone as another dial-up line out. Security experts don't think this is a major threat since the infrared link is limited in range to a few feet. Hackers, however, are scrambling to take advantage of the feature by using laser enhanced infrared links that allow connections at distances up to several hundred yards away. CLASSIFIED GAMBLING A Federal Judge has agreed to allow the FBI to withhold information on national security grounds during a trial about illegal gambling. U.S. Judge Nicholas Politan agreed to withhold information about classified FBI surveillance systems from the defense during the trial of Nicodemo Scarfo, a New Jersey man accused of illegal gambling and book making. The FBI reportedly used a highly sensitive and classified system to obtain the PGP encryption pass phrase from Scarfo's computer. Scarfo's attorney is appealing the ruling. FOR THE BEST ENCRYPTION SOFTWARE VISIT www.softwar.net OFFICIAL SOFTWAR COMMUNICATION SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER COPYRIGHT (C) 2002 SOFTWAR INC. 01/03/02 TO UNSUBSCRIBE REPLY WITH UNSUBSCRIBE AS SUBJECT ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: New Laissez Faire City Times Now Online V5.53 - 12/31/01
---BeginMessage--- See the Galt's Gulch - On the electronic frontier it is called DODGE CITY Freedom and privacy is a reality. SEE IT NOW: hundreds of sovereign individuals building a world class digital community. This unique borderless community offers business opportunities, private banking, worldwide stock market access, anonymous and secured communications and more in an environment free of nation-state interference. LINK for MORE: https://homesteads.lfcity.com/Penelope_Lane/pilgrim/pag_pilgrim_01_demo.html Quality is Hard to Find - Bookmark Home page now: The Laissez Faire City Times http://www.zolatimes.com The Front Page: http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.53/pageone.html Articles: -- The Monkey's Paw by J. Orlin Grabbe http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.53/monkeys_paw.html I was sitting in a pub in Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates, puffing on a Montecristo and watching some British, umm, expatriates watch a live soccer game. They were rooting for Barclayscard or Manchester United I couldn't tell which. The ball kept getting sucked past the goalie standing in front of Barclayscard, revealing the attractive power of that perverse piece of plastic. -- Dostum: America's Gruesome New Ally by Richard S. Ehrlich http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.53/afghan_dostum.html -- The Myth of the Reasonable Man The Case of Fardell v. Potts http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.53/reasonable_man.html -- Does Self-Control Exist? by Tibor R. Machan http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.53/self_control.html -- Sexuality Is What You Find in Your Genes by Jim Peron http://www.zolatimes.com/V5.53/sexuality_genes.html === Book Libraries at the Laissez Faire City Times Bookshop http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/BookShop.html Freedom Engineer, Andrew J. Galambos http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/AGlib.html Doomslayer, Julian L. Simon http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/JSlib.html === LFCjfax has a SPECIAL FREE offer! Free Faxes - Free Voice Mail It's the BRIDGE between the 2nd and 3rd Wave.http://www.LFCjfax.com --- You are currently subscribed to zolatimes as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe/subscribe via the web, go to http://earth.lyris.net/zolatimes/ *** NOTE: If you simply reply to this message, you WILL NOT be removed from this list (no matter how many nasty words you use). ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Newmont raises Normandy offer; Anglo won't keep bidding
---BeginMessage--- By Darren Schuettler and Sophie Hares JOHANNESBURG/SYDNEY, Jan 3 (Reuters) -- Newmont Mining looked poised to win a takeover battle for Australia's Normandy Mining with a sweetened bid on Thursday, as AngloGold Ltd refused to up its latest offer. U.S.-based Newmont had earlier boosted the cash element of its offer by 10 Australian cents per share, with the Normandy board recommending the A$4.3 billion (U.S. $2.2 billion) offer. Normandy, Australia's biggest gold miner, is a sought-after prize as its annual 2 million ounces of production will make the winning bidder the world's largest producer of gold -- a position currently held by the South African group. Newmont is now offering 50 cents cash plus 0.0385 Newmont shares for each Normandy share, valuing the firm at A$1.93 per share. Normandy shares are currently trading at around A$1.83. The Newmont bid tops AngloGold's cash and scrip bid, which values Normandy at A$1.81 a share or A$4.04 billion, based on latest closing prices. AngloGold said it would not increase its offer, leaving the way clear for Newmont to clinch the deal. AngloGold's offer is full and fair and the company has no basis upon which it could justify an increase in its offer, AngloGold Chairman and CEO Bobby Godsell said in a statement. Shares in AngloGold, majority-owned by London-based Anglo American Plc, extended the morning's sharp gains to more than 5 percent immediately after the announcement. By 1430 GMT the shares were up 3.7 percent at 447 rand, outperforming a 2.9 percent gain by Johannesburg's gold index. AngloGold shares had risen earlier amid investor expectations that the South African firm would not overpay for the Australian miner. They also benefited from the weaker rand. I think they've drawn the line. I don't think they can justify to Anglo or their own shareholders going any further, said HSBC Securities analyst Rob Edwards. AngloGold has argued its bid offers better value because the South African firm has a stronger track record of profitability, and generating cash to reinvest and pay dividends. I don't think it's a done deal, I think AngloGold will get some (Normandy) shares, Edwards said. Newmont shares, which closed at US$19.09 on Wednesday, were almost 2 percent lower just after the New York opening, losing 36 cents to stand at $18.73. A steep fall in Newmont's share price would appear to be AngloGold's last hope of winning the bid battle if it will not increase the cash component of its own offer. Newmont said its bid offered better value for shareholders in the Australian company. Our bid is clearly superior to AngloGold's and provides Normandy shareholders significantly higher overall value, approximately 67 percent more cash up front and the ability to participate in the world's premier gold company, Wayne Murdy, Newmont's chief executive said earlier in a statement. Newmont's latest offer is the sixth bid for Normandy and tops an independent A$1.48-A$1.88 a share valuation at the start of the four-month takeover battle. Normandy Chief Executive Robert Champion de Crespigny said Newmont's trading liquidity and planned acquisition of Canada's Franco-Nevada Mining Corp enhanced the long-term value of the deal over AngloGold's offer. The revised Newmont bid continues to be superior to the offer by AngloGold and has the full support of the Normandy board, de Crespigny said in a statement. Newmont, which would fund the cash component under its existing US$600 million revolving credit facility, said it was on track to complete both the Normandy and Franco-Nevada acquisitions in mid-February. AngloGold is backed by Canada's Barrick Gold Corp, which has said it would cooperate with the South African miner on operations in Australia and Tanzania. AngloGold says its alliance with Barrick would deliver synergies of A$220 million in the medium term, enough to compensate for the higher Normandy offer it made a week ago. -END- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/WfTolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: YOU'VE BEEN HACKED
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: RoadsEnd@... YOU'VE BEEN HACKED AOL/Time Warner announced that its Instant Message software has a security hole. AOL is warning its users that the hole can allow hackers to take complete control of their systems. AOL is promising a fix for the security breach. --- More on this with temporary solutions until AOL creates a fix: from - http://www.w00w00.org/advisories/aim.html AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) has a major security vulnerability in the latest stable (4.7.2480) and beta (4.8.2616) Windows versions. This vulnerability will allow remote penetration of the victim's system without any indication as to who performed the attack. There is no opportunity to refuse the request. This does not affect the non-Windows versions, because the non-Windows versions currently do not yet support the feature that this vulnerability occurs in. This particular vulnerability results from an overflow in the code that parses a game request. The actual overflow appears to be in the parsing of TLV type 0x2711. This may be more generic and exploitable through other means, but AOL has not released enough information about their protocol for us to be able to determine that. Robbie Saunder's email yesterday should be enough of a hint which direction to look in. We recommend Robbie Saunder's AIM Filter ( http://www.ssnbc.com/wiz ) to protect yourselves. A temporary solution is to go into your Preferences and in the Privacy section click Allow Only Users on My Buddy List under Who can contact me. UPDATES: 1. AOL will be fixing this in the server side within a day or two. 2. Versions dating back to at least AIM 4.3 are vulnerable 3. Inline AIM in Netscape is not vulnerable IMPLICATIONS AOL Instant Messenger ( http://www.aim.com ) has over 100 million users. The implications of this vulnerability are huge and leave the door wide open for a worm not unlike those that Microsoft Outlook, IIS, et al. have all had (Melissa, ILOVEYOU, CodeRed, nimda, etc.). An exploit could easily be amended to download itself off the web, determine the buddies of the victim, and then attack them also. Given the general nature of social networks and how they are structured, we predict that it wouldn't take long for such an attack to propagate. more at - http://www.w00w00.org/advisories/aim.html --- from - http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_486257.html AOL rushes to fix hole in Instant Messenger AOL has confirmed it is rushing to fix a security hole in its Instant Messenger program. The move comes after a group of researchers identified the flaw and publicised it online. The hole - found in the Windows version of the program - can let a hacker take full control of a victim's computer. An AOL spokesman confirmed the existence of the problem, but said so far no users have been affected. He added that a fix should be deployed in the next day or two. The research team behind the discovery - dubbed w00w00 - said the hole is a buffer overflow, similar to the problem recently found in Microsoft's Windows XP. They say a hacker can use it to take control of a victim's computer by sending a stream of junk messages to the program. W00w00 founder Matt Conover said the group discovered the problem several weeks ago, but didn't contact AOL until Christmas week. He claims an email outlining the problem failed to elicit a response. Their move to go public - accompanied by the release of a home-made patch - a week later has already been criticised by independent experts. Russ Cooper, who moderates a popular security mailing list and works for security firm TruSecure, said the actions are irresponsible. But Conover defended the disclosure, arguing that the group's approach means providing all the information we have available to the security community. Story filed: 11:16 Thursday 3rd January 2002 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] check this email for badtrans virus!
-Caveat Lector- please let me know if this is infected...norton has recently put out a filter for the badtrans Re: [infowars] on Home Run: remote recovery system for hijacked aircraft i have been struck again...asleep i guess and not noticing that it had all the signs of being badtrans...it was in my bulk mail, it was a 40k file, it was re: a post i had posted... me thinks it is more of a worm...that is what i hear... heard also that the FBI wants all data gathered by the worm [convenient] it is said to report passwords, address books etc... hard to say if this is a result of the post about home run or in response to the thermonuclear muckhead post that i recently sent out but one thing is for sure...this is not randomly bouncing about...i was left alone of virii for a couple of weeks and since the thermonuclear muckhead post they have started anew...so it is conscious...happens when i drop BIG bombshells... unless the worm is an AI and at 40k i rather doubt it... i.e. whoever objected to my last two months posting [and that of others in this particular activist circle] also objects to either a) mentioning homerun or b) mentioning gritz as i did... from this, i urge you to draw your OWN conclusions... for info on homerun, see: http://software.design.tripod.com/mirror/homerun.htm for info on gritz, see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/2455 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Phallic Library escapade reveals PC fallacy: Tasteless,moronic, male bashing
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Saba) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Saba) Talking to yourself again? You really DO need to talk to your physician about your meds You are a liar June - this bull moose was on TV smiling and smirking, looking like a big ox smirking and smiling You also say you think the Statue of Liberty looks ugly, so the rest of us know to take your assessment of 'beauty' with a grain of salt... She also made a lot of press and later tried to change her story but she was already on record for her involvement with this feminist element. Oh, so now she's a 'feminist', which we all know in your cosmology equates to being a lesbian... Further she was in violation of the law or should I say it was in violation of the law. WHAT law? Male homosexuals - this is the type of art exhibit they would like, How would YOU know? You seem mighty fixated and obsessed not only with this particular issue, but with homosexuality in general... Methinks 'she' doth protest too much? ;-) This was timed with the report in Time that pornography was going to be mainstreamed. So you are admitting that you equate any artwork that shows human genitalia with pornography? From what I've read (and I am NOT referring to various letters-to-the-editor which only show the writer's prejudices), the issue with this art exhibit never was one of 'pornography', but whether it was appropriate to be put into the library's adjunct building... June, you seem to think it is okay for these perverts to bully the boy scouts and even try to move in on the little cub scouts, First off, 'pervert' is a very subjective term... Secondly, you're fixating on homosexuals, when this exhibit was not associated with any homosexual group whatsoever, but rather was done by a domestic abuse agency in the area... And if you remember, I DID point out that I objected to the piece in question, not because it may or may not be 'pornographic' -- I still have seen no picture of it, so I cannot formulate an informed opinion on that matter, and even if I did it would just be my subjective opinion -- but my objection was that an agency that was ostensibly trying to help victims of domestic abuse would include a piece showing mutilated genitalia, and blythely pass it off as men may find it disturbing, but women find it amusing... Well I'm a woman, and I find it disturbing; I'm sure the women who found it 'amusing' would be outraged if a male artist created a work showing vaginas hung on a line One does not solve the problem of domestic and sexual abuse by advocating domestic/sexual abuse in turn... We had a pack of queers here in our small city and lo and behold, they used to try to get next to people with authority and jobs in schools.but the head pervert was murdered and you know what - nobody gave a rat's ass. At least he had spent a good time in jail after getting away for years molesting young male kids - but when he got his filthy hands on three small children I reported this man to a Judge, not the police, who had been shielding him for he was oh so wealthy. What does any of that have to do with the art exhibit in question? Wouldn't you know this bull moose worked in a library Oh, so because in YOUR estimation this librarian is 'ugly', that also means she is homosexual? You've never heard the term 'lipstick lesbian'? Would not want my grandson in a library where a bull moose was putting on a show for the local male homosexuals. Again, you amply display that you are a totally ignorant ass, or a deliberate disinformationist; the exhibit, as you well know, was for the benefit of a domestic abuse agency, not for any gay or lesbian organization. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Guardsman shoots self at SFO
-Caveat Lector- Lady Amelia Yup they are awake. Don't think they want leave their heating pad. Don't blame them either. Take care and God bless. Joe Bill Howard wrote: -Caveat Lector- FYI Here is a report form the Torrance, CA Daily Breeze that should make all air travelers feel safer. Hint: Always keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. San Francisco (AP) A National Guardsman accidentally shot himself at San Francisco Internatrional Airport last week while trying to remove his gun from his holster. Louis E. Alvarez, a National Guard Specialist, was going off duty about 11 pm Friday when the accident happened, according to SFC Tom Jacobs. He was going through a procedure to make sure his M-9 pistol was clear of ammunition when he had trouble removing the gun from its holster and it went off. The shot went through his hip and exited at his buttocks. Alvarez was taken to San Francisco General Hospital and was released Saturday afternoon. The Shooting happened at a courtyard in the international terminal away from passengers. Jacobs said the National Guard had opened a formal investigation. San Francisco police also investigated. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UPDATE - AOL fixed hole - AIM
-Caveat Lector- Well, that was quick ... - jt --- from - http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8347523.html?tag=lthd AOL plugs AIM security hole By Paul Festa Staff Writer, CNET News.com January 3, 2002, 7:55 a.m. PT update - AOL Time Warner on Thursday plugged a security hole in its instant messenger application that experts say could have provided wiggle room for a widespread and destructive worm. The company said it implemented a server-side fix, meaning that customers will not have to download the patch. As earlier reported, the security bug affected AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) version 4.7 and the 4.8 beta, or test version. Only AIM users running Microsoft's Windows operating system are vulnerable. No action has to be taken by users...and to our knowledge no users were affected by the issue, said AOL spokesman Andrew Weinstein. The AIM hole surfaced at a period of heightened scrutiny of instant-messaging security. Although virus and worm authors have concentrated on e-mail as the preferred means of propagation, the rising popularity of instant messaging has made the technology an increasingly attractive target. The issue came to light with the posting of an advisory by Matt Conover, a founding member of w00w00.org, which bills itself as an international nonprofit security team. Conover is also a double major in computer science and mathematics at Utah State University at Logan. The advisory described the problem as a buffer overflow issue--one of the most common computer security glitches. The problem, which in this case affects AIM's game request function, occurs when an application crashes after being flooded with more code than it can accommodate. In a buffer overflow attack, maliciously written excess code can wind up being executed on the target computer. In this case, Conover warned that the security hole left the door open for attackers to create a self-propagating worm that could rival the destructive Melissa, I Love You, Code Red and Nimda worms that exploited vulnerabilities in Microsoft's Outlook e-mail application and IIS Web server. An exploit could easily be amended to download itself off the Web, determine the buddies of the victim, and then attack them also, Conover's advisory warned. Given the general nature of social networks and how they are structured, we predict that it wouldn't take long for such an attack to propagate. Security experts pointed out that there have been previous vulnerabilities in IM products, but they said this was among the most serious identified to date. Instant messengers are considered a potentially dangerous delivery vehicle for worms because of their buddy lists, which offer a long list of potential new victims much like an e-mail address book. This could be used by someone to execute programs on a vulnerable system, said Elias Levy, chief technology officer of SecurityFocus. A worst-case scenario could be a worm that used this vulnerability as an infection vector, and given the large population of users, the potential for damage is great. A lot of corporations allow their users to use instant messaging, so this vulnerability could be used to pierce corporate firewalls. AIM is one of the Web's most popular applications, with more than 100 million registrations (one person can register any number of different AIM personas). A much smaller subset of that group is running version 4.7 and the 4.8 beta, but Conover used the 100 million figure to chastise AOL Time Warner for letting the buffer overflow hole slip through its quality-control process. The first implication is that AOL should feel the weight of responsibility and employ better software development practices, Conover wrote in his advisory. The developers of a product with so many users should be much more cautious and avoid overbloating with a multitude of features they didn't have time to properly test in the first place. AOL Time Warner declined to comment on Conover's criticism. Staff writer Jim Hu contributed to this report. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Phallic Library escapade reveals PC fallacy: Tasteless,moronic, male bashing
-Caveat Lector- Showing your ignorance of the law? Well they say it is no excuse, but it is illegal to flash pornographic pictures before children and the art forms so displayed in the Library was pornography. Might have done better in the Gay Pride Division. And yes, get a load of some of those feminists of which Janet Reno, the Alley Oop of Gay Pride, is considered prime example of primevil man/woman/it. Larry Flynt it was reported when criticized for publishing pictures of dead, maimed bodies said some preferred this to his line of photography but failed to mention that a perverse sickness in our society seems to enjoy both. As it is now these sick twisted perverts have made it impossible for small children to go to public libraries, or to state parks their favorite meeting grounds...they must do as they did in our town - made a huge golf course on most of the park area for it seems to keep this garbage out of the restrooms. Can only presume the mating call of this Bull Moose was squelched before she made prime time..nothing cute about pushing pornography art on the kiddies. Doubt the library had a closet bit enough for this Alley Oop to retreat. O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism?
-Caveat Lector- are freemasons militant jews? is this all about the merovingians? the following is from: http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/judaism/christ.htm Dishonouring Christian religious symbols is an old religious duty in Judaism. Spitting on the cross, an especially on the Crucifix, and spitting when a Jew passes a church, havebeen obligatory from around AD 200 for pious Jews. In the past, when the danger of anti-Semitic hostility was a real one, the pious Jews were commanded by their rabbis either to spit so that the reason for doing so would be unknown, or to spit onto their chests, not actually on the cross or openly before the church. The increasing strength of the Jewish state has caused these customs to become more open again but there should be no mistake: The spitting on the cross for converts from Christianity to Judaism , organized in Kibbutz Sa'ad and financed by the Israeli government is a an act of traditional Jewish piety. It does not seize to be barbaric, horrifying and wicked because of this! On the contrary, it is worse because it is so traditional, and much more dangerous as well, just as the renewed anti-Semitism of the Nazis was dangerous, because in part, it played on the traditional anti-Semitic past. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] check this email for badtrans virus!
-Caveat Lector- Only problem I had on this Eric the information on the planes, etc., a notice came up on the screen it was too big to be reproduced, etc. In the past when I have attempted to reproduce something that was too large for the web tv to handle - it would cut off. But if you mean am I or others on list affected by a virus from your mail - no, nothing happened here except you sent too much and I could not pull all of it up. The item on Bo Gritz I did not bother to pull up. How this would affect a computer I do not know. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] on the claim that zionism is liberation
-Caveat Lector- sounds very nazi to me...the following is on the attempt by the third reich to 'liberate' the germans: In late 19th and early 20th century Germany and Austria there were many flourishing esoteric orders which sought to establish a reborn Germanic identity and to reconnect the volk with its repressed archetypes. One of the most significant of these Orders was founded in Germany in 1912 - the German Order. From this sprang the Thule Society whose driving force was Rudolf von Serbottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry. more at: http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] on the claim that zionism is liberation
-Caveat Lector- brilliant post an article about nazi's that has nothing to do with zionism, and pretend it has some bearing very brilliant indeed -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:59:03 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] on the claim that zionism is liberation -Caveat Lector- sounds very nazi to me...the following is on the attempt by the third reich to 'liberate' the germans: In late 19th and early 20th century Germany and Austria there were many flourishing esoteric orders which sought to establish a reborn Germanic identity and to reconnect the volk with its repressed archetypes. One of the most significant of these Orders was founded in Germany in 1912 - the German Order. From this sprang the Thule Society whose driving force was Rudolf von Serbottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry. more at: http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Brief History of Palestine
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/history1.htm Brief History of Palestine 1895 - 1917 1895 The total population of Palestine was 500,000 of whom 47,000 were Jews who owned 0.5% of the land. The Jewish populations were the descendants of the Jewish refugees who fled from Spain 1609 AD 1896 Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism tried to find a political solution for the problem in his book, 'The Jewish State'. He advocated the creation of a Jewish state in Argentina or Palestine. 1897 The first Zionist Congress was held in Switzerland, which issued the Basle program on the colonization of Palestine and the establishment of the World Zionist Organization (WZO). 1904 Fourth Zionist Congress decided to establish a national home for Jews in Argentina. 1906 The Zionist congress decided the Jewish homeland should be Palestine. 1914 With the outbreak of World War I, Britain promised the independence of Arab lands under Ottoman rule, including Palestine, in opposing to Turkey which had entered the war on the side of Germany. 1916 Britain and France signed the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned to France, Jordan and Iraq to Britain and Palestine was to be internationalized. 1917 Lord Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary sent a letter to the Zionist leader Lord Rothschild which later became known as The Balfour declaration. He stated that Britain would use its best endeavors to facilitate the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. At that time the population of Palestine was 700,000 of which 574,000 were Muslims, 74,000 were Christian, and 56,000 were Jews. 1919 - 1967 1919 The Palestinians convened their first National Conference and expressed their opposition to the Balfour Declaration. 1920 The San Remo Conference granted Britain a mandate over Palestine and two years later Palestine was effectively under British administration, and Sir Herbert Samuel, a declared Zionist, was sent as Britain's first High Commissioner to Palestine. 1922 The Council of the League of Nations issued a Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was in favor of the establishment for the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine. 1936 The Palestinians held a six-month General Strike to protest against the confiscation of land and Jewish immigration. 1939 The British government published a new White Paper restricting Jewish immigration and offering independence for Palestine within ten years. This was rejected by the Zionists, who then organized terrorist groups and launched a bloody campaign against the British and the Palestinians. The aim was to drive them both out of Palestine and to pave the way for the establishment of the Zionist state. 1947 The United Nations approved the partition under which the Palestinian Arabs, who accounted for 70% of the population and owned 92% of the land, were allocated 47% of the country. (UN resolution 181) 1948 British forces withdrew from Palestine in May and the Zionists proclaimed the state of Israel without defining its borders. Arab armies moved to defend the Palestinians. 1949 A cease fire was finally agreed. The Zionists controlled 77% of Palestinian land and over 1 million Palestinians were forced to leave their country. The West Bank was put under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian control. 1964 The Palestine Liberation Organization was established. 1965 The Palestine 'Revolution' began on 1 January. 1967 Israel launched a new war against the Arabs and seized the West Bank and Gaza Strip, the Syrian Golan Heights and the Egyptian Sinai peninsula. 1973 - 1988 1973 The October War between Israel and the Arab states broke out, And it was the first practical defeat for Israel. 1974 The Arab Summit in Rabat recognized the PLO as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. At the United Nations General Assembly, the UN reaffirmed its commitment to an independent sovereign state in Palestine and gave the PLO observer status at the United Nations. Yasser Arafat, chairman of the PLO, addressed the General Assembly of the United Nations. 1978 Egypt and Israel signed the Camp David Agreement under the auspices of the United States. 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon with the aim of destroying the PLO. Tens of thousands were killed and made homeless in the wake of the invasion which culminated in the massacres of Sabra and Shatilla. 1983 The United Nations called for the convening of a Peace Conference with the participation of the PLO on an equal footing with the other delegates as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. 1987 The 18th Session of the Palestine National Council (PNC) supported the convening of a UN- sponsored conference. In December the Intifada-the Palestine Uprising - in the Occupied Territories
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Phallic Library escapade reveals PC fallacy: Tasteless,moronic, male bashing
-Caveat Lector- saba - can you define pornography for me? also what state's laws are you referencing? -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:52:48 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Phallic Library escapade reveals PC fallacy: Tasteless,moronic, male bashing -Caveat Lector- Showing your ignorance of the law? Well they say it is no excuse, but it is illegal to flash pornographic pictures before children and the art forms so displayed in the Library was pornography. Might have done better in the Gay Pride Division. And yes, get a load of some of those feminists of which Janet Reno, the Alley Oop of Gay Pride, is considered prime example of primevil man/woman/it. Larry Flynt it was reported when criticized for publishing pictures of dead, maimed bodies said some preferred this to his line of photography but failed to mention that a perverse sickness in our society seems to enjoy both. As it is now these sick twisted perverts have made it impossible for small children to go to public libraries, or to state parks their favorite meeting grounds...they must do as they did in our town - made a huge golf course on most of the park area for it seems to keep this garbage out of the restrooms. Can only presume the mating call of this Bull Moose was squelched before she made prime time..nothing cute about pushing pornography art on the kiddies. Doubt the library had a closet bit enough for this Alley Oop to retreat. O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism?
-Caveat Lector- Eric I''ve never seen this behavior they did not teach me to spit on crosses or churches, nor have I ever seen anyone do this. -- Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:56:13 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism? -Caveat Lector- are freemasons militant jews? is this all about the merovingians? the following is from: http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/judaism/christ.htm Dishonouring Christian religious symbols is an old religious duty in Judaism. Spitting on the cross, an especially on the Crucifix, and spitting when a Jew passes a church, havebeen obligatory from around AD 200 for pious Jews. In the past, when the danger of anti-Semitic hostility was a real one, the pious Jews were commanded by their rabbis either to spit so that the reason for doing so would be unknown, or to spit onto their chests, not actually on the cross or openly before the church. The increasing strength of the Jewish state has caused these customs to become more open again but there should be no mistake: The spitting on the cross for converts from Christianity to Judaism , organized in Kibbutz Sa'ad and financed by the Israeli government is a an act of traditional Jewish piety. It does not seize to be barbaric, horrifying and wicked because of this! On the contrary, it is worse because it is so traditional, and much more dangerous as well, just as the renewed anti-Semitism of the Nazis was dangerous, because in part, it played on the traditional anti-Semitic past. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/palwhopal.html WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? Not only did the Zionists devote extraordinary efforts to defeat the Palestinians and destroy their society, but also they denied their existence. Israel Zangwill, a founder of Zionism, claimed that Palestine was a land without people, waiting for people without a land.(Israel Zangwill, The Return to Palestine, New Liberal Review,II, Dec. 1901, p.627) But later on he came to admit that, There is, however, a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he does not like to face...Palestine proper has already its own inhabitants. (The Voice of Jerusalem, London, 1920, p.88) [mentioned in FF, p.4] The earliest Zionist colonialists in Palestine knew that the land they are settling on was inhabited. Christopher Sykes, pro-Zionist historian, said in his Crossroads to Israel 1917-1948 that This is the problem with Palestine, it was inhabited. But some chose to ignore this minor problem while others tried to overcome it. Herzl, the father of Zionism, believed that the native Palestinians would resist the takeover of their country and therefore recommended that they be dealt with through assured supremacy, est. brutal force and military superiority. (Herzl, The Jewish State: a modern Solution to the Jewish Question, Rita Searl, 1946, p.29) [quoted in Facts and Fables, by Clifford A. Wright, p.2] He preached that the Zionists should acquire the land of their choice by armed conquest. The denial of the Palestinian existence is well and alive until today, where the Palestinians who are Israeli citizens and living in Israel, are officially known as the Arabs of Israel. This denial of the Palestinian existence is a wholesale dehumanization of a people. Who are the Palestinians?, exclaimed Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, There was no such thing as a Palestinian people in Palestine. It was as though there was a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country from them. They did not exist. (The London Sunday Times 15 June, 1969) [ quoted in Palestinians/ The Making of A People, by Baruch Kimmer Joel S. Migdal] In 1982 during the invasion of Lebanon, Prime Minister Menachem Begin, described them as, two-legged beasts in a speech in the Knesset. (Begin and the Beasts, by Israeli journalist Amnon Kapeliout) [quoted in FF, p.3] One of the basic facts of the Palestinian Arabs is that they exist, and have always existed and will continue to exist in spite of all the conspiracies that aim at liquidating them. The point from which their existence has been challenged arose in the war of 1948, which led to the physical dispossession of more than 800,000 of this indigenous population of Palestine. Palestine disappeared from the map and its people also disappeared from the mind and conscience of much of the world. But the fact remains that the major portion of the territory, now called Israel, is still legitimately belongs to the indigenous Palestinian people. WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? The Palestinian Arabs of today, Muslims and Christians, are not, as popularly believed, the descendants of the Arabian desert conquerors of 1300 years ago. In fact, they are mainly the descendants of the original native population--Canaanites, Edomites, and Philistines. They were there when the Hebrews (of whom the Jews claim descent) invaded the land in about 1550 B.C., and lived for a short period as the Biblical myths claims in fact there are no mention to the Hebrews domination except in the Old Testament. But if we accepted the Jewish legend for argument we will find that the native inhibitors of the lands survived the Israelites occupation, retained possession of a large part of the country. They remained there when the last Hebrew left the country nearly 2000 years ago. Then, they intermingled first with the Arabs in the seventh century, then with the Crusaders in the 11th century. They continued the occupation in their Arabaized character until the Zionism invasion in 1948. According to Ottoman sources, more than half a million people lived in Palestine in 1850. Of those 80% were Muslims, 10% were Christians, and 7% were Jews. (FF, p.4, source Janet Abu-Lughod, ed. The Transformation of Palestine, p.140) By 1914 the British estimated Palestines population at 689,272 of whom no more than 60,000 or 9% were Jews. (The Great Census of Palestines population 1922, p.142) The most accurate census at the time was the 1922 conducted by the British. Of the total 757,182 population, 78% were Muslims, 10% were Christians, 11% were Jews. 75% of the Jews were Europeans and their offspring. About 1% classified as others. The census did not include nearly 50,000 Bedouin in the Negev Desert. Now the Palestinian number is estimated at six million. But this could neither be accurate nor simply unreliable. The fact that an accurate census of the Palestinians has
Re: [CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism?
-Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Eric I''ve never seen this behavior they did not teach me to spit on crosses or churches, nor have I ever seen anyone do this. -- are you hassidic? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism?
-Caveat Lector- --- eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Eric I''ve never seen this behavior they did not teach me to spit on crosses or churches, nor have I ever seen anyone do this. -- are you hassidic? and did you grow up in israel? though this piece may not, i at least am TRYING to maintain a distinction between judaism and zionism __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE WHITE SPEC TO THE RIGHT OF THE TOWERS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.memes.org/stealth.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- http://zog.to/3/antisemi/adl.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] an erratic 'brainstorm'
-Caveat Lector- ~snip~ Why did Dr. Brian get the (Promis) computer contract? Meese's wife owned substantial stock in Dr. Brian's company and it is also alleged that Dr. Brian was being paid off for setting up the original meetings between the Iranians and the Reagan-Bush campaign team which may have led to the delay in the release of 52 American hostages until after the November 1980 Presidential election. A British Air Force officer who had allegedly witnessed Dr. Brian's sale of PROMIS software to Iraqi military intelligence in Santiago, Chile, was found hanged. His death was ruled suicide. - 1 ~snip~ Dr. Brian's name has been linked to the October Surprise and is a central figure in the government's theft of PROMIS soft ware from INSLAW. Brian's role touches from the Cabazon Indian scandals to United Press International. He is one of those low-profile key figures. And, alas, his name appears again in the nation's behavior modification and mind control experiments. Dr. Brian was Reagan's Secretary of Health when Reagan was Governor. Dr. Brian was an advocate of state subsidies for a research center for the study of violent behavior. The center was to begin operations by mid-1975, and its research was intended to shed light on why people murder or rape, or hijack aircraft. - 2 ~snip~ Dr. Earl Brian, Governor Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Health, was adamant about his support for mind control centers in California. - 2 ~snip~ Calspan was founded in 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory, which included the Fund for the Study of Human Ecology, a CIA conduit for mind-control experiments by émigré Nazi scientists [and others under the direction of CIA Doctors Sidney Gottlieb, Ewen Cameron, and Louis Jolyn West]. - 3 According to mind-control researcher Alex Constantine, Calspan places much research emphasis on bioengineering and artificial intelligence (Calspan pioneered in the field in the 1950s). In his article, The Good Soldier, Constantine states: ~snip~ as did riconoscuito...a guy named kumnick made an AI prog named Brainstorm that was a sort of supplement to promis...it was supposed to be able to PREDICT when someone (or an army) was going to go off by reducing personality traits to mathematical vectors...in the wake of the promis scandal, kumnick died...suicided? ~snip~ Human tracking and monitoring technology are well within Calspan's sphere of pursuits. The company is instrumental in REDCAP, an Air Force electronic warfare system that winds through every Department of Defense facility in the country. A Pentagon release explains that REDCAP is used to evaluate the effectiveness of electronic-combat hardware, techniques, tactics and concepts. The system includes closed-loop radar and data links at RF manned data fusion and weapons control posts. One Patriot computer news board reported that a disembodied, rumbling, low-frequency hum had been heard across the country the week of the bombing. Past hums in Taos, NM, Eugene and Medford, OR, Timmons, Ontario and Bristol, UK were most definitely (despite specious official denials) attuned to the brain's auditory pathways . The Air Force is among Calspan's leading clients, and Eglin AFB has farmed key personnel to the company. The grating irony recalling McVeigh's contention he'd been implanted with a telemetry chip is that the Instrumentation Technology Branch of Eglin Air Force Base is currently engaged in the tracking of mammals with subminiature telemetry devices. According to an Air Force press release, the biotelemetry chip transmits on the upper S-band (2318 to 2398 MHz), with up to 120 digital channels. - 3 ~snip~ isn't Eglin very NEAR the cabazon res? ~snip~ Former Army CID investigator Gene Wheaton also described a covert unit created by the highly secretive NRO (National Reconnaissance Office), which used assassination and torture to eliminate so-called enemies of the state. In 1985, Wheaton was approached by security consultants to Vice President Bush's Task Force on Combating Terrorism who were working for USMC Lt. Colonel Oliver North (who served under Shackley in Vietnam) and Associate Deputy FBI Director Oliver Buck Revell. They wanted me to help create a 'death squad' that would have White House deniability to assassinate people they would identify as 'terrorists,' said Wheaton. - 3 ~snip~ an individual that will remain unnamed did once attempt to convince me that everything i had been through had more to do with the NRO than any other agency... ~snip~ They used the assassination of President Kennedy as a prime example of how to develop the strategy for the assassination of a world leader as a conspiracy, while making it look like some 'lone nut' did it. The stronger a patriot you are, the more important it is to you that you do whatever is necessary for your flag, for your country, he adds. It makes you the most susceptible type of person for this kind of training. You are the ultimate warrior. You're out there
Re: [CTRL] on neurons and the lack thereof
-Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- brilliant post an article about nazi's that has nothing to do with zionism, and pretend it has some bearing very brilliant indeed you wouldn't know brilliance if it managed to actually come into contact with your pupils... if you can't see that the unleashing of the german people's repressed archetypes as the basis for naziism isn't the same meme as zionism is liberation, then i excuse you for being clue-impaired... end of discussion... rant all you want... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] is terrorism the core of zionism?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/history2.htm Terrorism is the core of Zionism Dr. Moh'd N. Al-Khawaldeh The use of terrorism by the Zionists, is not a reactionary policy, nor is it used casually, rather it is an integral element of the Zionist State. Furthermore the State sees it as being essential to develop and preserve this element of terrorism. The strong relationship between Zionism and terrorism could be linked to the imperialist nature of both the ideological and political parties, which supported the Zionist movement. The Permanent Characteristics In order for a Jewish State to be established, it was essential to carry out a policy of constant persecution and terrorism against the natives of land, the Palestinians. It was impossible for the Zionists to achieve their goals without carrying out a policy of racial discrimination against the Arabs. Thus, with regards to this policy at least, it became irrelevant who the political allies of the State were, as this policy was deemed essential to the existence of the State and was not a negotiable aspect of any alliance. The racist nature of Zionism, is an innate characteristic of this political movement, whose basis is the belief that the Jews are God's chosen people. The nature of Zionism, together with the ideological persuasions of its political allies, has ensured that the State of Israel has become a military fort, to defend the interests of the imperial powers, in the developing countries of the Near and Middle East. It is noticeable that Zionism prospered in the mid 1880s when imperialism began advocating the use of racist terms, such as the 'white' man, as well as imposing the so-called 'Western wisdom' on the illiterate people of the East. The Zionist invasion of Palestine was the product of imperialist Europe's invasion of three continents, and it was justified to the world with the theological argument that Palestine was the Promised Land of the Jews. Thus, Zionism is a manifestation of colonial imperialism and is based on both race and religion; to be more exact, it is based on a theological claim which states that the land of Palestine is the land which God has promised to the 'Chosen People'. The concept of a 'Chosen People' emphasizes the superiority of the Jews, who should not socialize with other peoples or share the land with any others. Naturally, this has resulted in a racial closure for the Jews, discrimination against all other races, especially the Arabs, who were the original inhabitants of Palestine, as well as an innate sense of superiority amongst the Jewish race. The policy of racial closure is seen as a necessity in order to gather the Jewish people in the diaspora under a central authority, thus the world is divided into Jewish and non-Jewish. Without such a policy of racial closure for the Jews, the Jewish people would be scattered throughout the world, thus making it difficult to establish a State, which represents the Jewish 'nation'. Thus the Zionist State of Israel is the only home for all the Jews. The Comprehensive Closure All the Zionist leaders have emphasized the idea of a comprehensive closure. One of the main threats to the Jewish people is perceived as being a dilution of Judaism, through interaction with other societies and cultures. In other words, the Jews may leave their own people and socialize with the other societies, as a result of which they will lose their own identity. Moreover, the idea of a comprehensive closure was conducive to the establishment of the Zionist State. Thus, we can see two reasons why the idea of a Jewish closure was ardently adopted by the Zionists. First, to preserve the existence of the Jewish 'nation' and to make this a worldwide issue. Secondly, to make the Jews into a distinguished and chosen people, with their own peculiar traditions and customs. To this end, it is even forbidden for a Jewish woman to marry a non-Jewish man-to do so is considered a national and religious betrayal that must be punished. The objective behind the racial closure in the Zionist ideology is to achieve a pure and superior race. As a result, introversion is considered a virtue and isolation is a ritual. Thus, for the Jews, the idea of the 'Ghetto' is a positive one, in that it does not only show that the Jews are being rejected by the society, which they see as good, but it is a sign of achievement for the Jews. To explain this, we must understand that for a Jew to be a Jew, in the eyes of Zionism, he must refuse to deal with the rest of the human race and work to achieve a comprehensive racial closure by convincing all Jews to move from the diaspora to the Promised Land. This in turn necessitates the forced exile of the indigenous population-the Palestinians-from the land, and the forced return of all Jews to the Jewish homeland. Consequently, the racial closure is a means to preserve the superiority and racial purity of the Jews through the means of a State.
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://zog.to/3/antisemi/adl.html This is typical of Colleen/Saba to put up a Neo-Nazi site where the content is equal to what floats around between her ears. ADL's Dark History The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). This organization, which exists today excludes people based on their ethnic background and religion. It is exclusively restricted to powerful Jews who believe in racial superiority. This is the very first paragraph. This sentence... The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). was obviously researched by some genius of Colleen's high caliber. It is completely wrong. B'nai = Sons of B'rith = the Covenant If you're going to write a racist hit piece, you have to at least be credible in your first sentence. Unless your intended audience are as stupid as Colleen. This is probably the case. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Search for bin Ashcroft - Arthur Joel Katz
forwarded message ---BeginMessage--- The Search for bin Ashcroft By: Arthur Joel Katz - 01/03/02 If you haven't noticed, Attorney General bin Aschcroft has been missing for almost all of December. No public appearances, no speeches, and the few mentions of him in the media have all been retrospective. Moreover, there are not a few signs that the Bush administration is in retreat from some of Ashcroft's more outrageous positions. For example, an honest-to- God accused foreign terrorist, Zacarias Moussaoui, is to be tried by an honest-to-God federal court. A federal judge even entered a not guilty plea for Moussaoui, who apparently wished to play it as it lay. Then, there are indications that Talaban John Walker will also be tried in the federal courts even though a case could be made that he lost his citizenship when he served in a foreign army. A federal court would require the government to prove that Walker actually committed a crime. Although Walker will have few to cheer for him, finding what crime Walker committed is a legal quagmire. It would be easier to try Walker by secret military tribunal along with other non citizens where legal niceties could be avoided. Even if Ashcroft should appear on TV in the near future looking attorney general ish, there will be no showing that he is actually in Washington. As we are all well aware, it may simply be a video tape which Ashcroft prepared before or even after his disappearance. The most reliable source on bin Ashcroft, Fox News, will hampen the investigation by failing to broadcast it in full. Their excuse will be that they wanted to prevent bin Ashcroft from sending secret signals to his supporters. People are falsely blaming liberals for Ashcroft's disappearance. This is a base canard, although I dare say they were happy to see him go. Most likely, bin Ashcroft has fled on his own accord. He may have been hearing footsteps. Most paranoiacs do. No doubt he is holed up in a cave in West Virginia surrounded by miltia folk who agree with him that the Second Amendment is the most important amendment to the constitution, so sacred in fact, that merely revealing the names of Brady Gun Law registrants to the FBI is beyond the pale. These militia folk are a fierce crowd, well armed with AK-47s and similar repeating weapons which they normally use only for deer hunting. It is too much to expect that the locals will take the risk of searching these caves for bin Ashcroft. It is damn dangerous. Armaments aside, one could well wind up in the clink for trying to out bin Ashcroft. Heaven knows, Ashcroft has imprisoned people in this country on lesser charges. And another thing, the locals may in fact be bin Ashcroft supporters, and accordingly are not to be trusted. Tribal chiefs in West Virginia are known for their fierce independence. They are unlikely to take orders from a Federal Government that has been trying to run them out of the moonshine business for years and years. To paraphrase a Joan Baez lyric, some of them ain't paid no whiskey tax since 1783. Also, what is to be done with bin Ashcroft when he is actually found. And rest easy, he will be found. It is just a matter of time. We will triumph over the evil doers and bring them to justice. Dead is dead, of course, but a live free bin Ashcroft may well revitalize his forces and take over the government. Perhaps he might be tried for subverting the civil rights of all Americans. But would a jury convict? I don't think so. The polls indicate that his policies are widely popular. If only he could ride, he could be a Man on Horseback. There is an obvious solution which I have somehow overlooked. Have him tried by a military tribunal in secret. It will not matter that he will have no lawyer to defend him since we all know he is guilty. Public opinion won't matter at all. As to the sentence, my suggestion is that he merely be exiled. His unpopularity abroad leads me to believe that in such event we will never hear from him again. Yet there is a risk. Bin Ashcroft will surely find a job somewhere with kindred spirits such as the North Koreans, Cubans or the Chinese. Bringing his skills to those people might be really dangerous. Arthur Joel Katz is a contributing writer for Liberal Slant 2002-2001-2000-1999-1998 LIBERAL SLANT Web Publications. All rights reserved. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liberalslant.com Send this article to a friend. __ To unsubscribe: http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/unsubscribe.php?[EMAIL PROTECTED] This newsletter is hosted by http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] THE WHITE SPEC TO THE RIGHT OF THE TOWERS
-Caveat Lector- From the looks of it there's no way a chopper could be moving that fast. Samantha In a message dated 1/3/02 9:53:56 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a helicopter. One of the main video clips that is constantly shown over and over again of the 2nd plane hitting the WTC shows the opposite angle that the clip on this website shows...IOW, the clip on the website shows the towers from a viewpoint to the west viewing east, while the clip that is usually broadcast over and over again on the media shows the WTC from a viewpoint to the east and somewhat south, viewing westDOH! Right where 'the mysterious spec' is on the website's clip... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cooking up a coup in Venezuela. Ya take some oil, then raise the heat...
-Caveat Lector- Subject: New oil law takes effect in Venezuela Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:46:38 -0500 From: a [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, The following story from the Nando Times (http://www.nandotimes.com) was sent to you by: a ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). --- New oil law takes effect in Venezuela The Associated Press CARACAS, Venezuela (January 2, 2002 06:38 a.m. EST) - President Hugo Chavez celebrated a contentious new oil law that took effect Tuesday, telling supporters that Venezuela is beginning the New Year with a new oil strategy. We need a new oil strategy because the one we have had has not been successful, Chavez said during a rally in the western state of Tachira. The new Hydrocarbons Law gives the state greater control over the petroleum industry, an initiative Chavez argues will allow the government to better spread Venezuela's oil wealth among the poor. Critics say the law will alienate investors by imposing the world's highest royalty rates on companies operating Venezuela's oil fields. Business leaders - who last month paralyzed the country for one day to protest the oil law and 48 others - also complain about a requirement that state-owned Petroleos de Venezuela SA hold a minimum 51 percent stake in future joint ventures involving exploration and exploitation. Chavez argues the state must retain control of the country's petroleum reserves, the largest in the Western Hemisphere, because Venezuela depends on oil for almost half of government income and 80 percent of export revenue. Government officials insist the new law is actually more liberal than past ones because it allows private companies to own downstream operations, such as refineries, for the first time. --- Publication date: 12/28/2001 U.S. cooking up a coup in Venezeula? By Conn Hallinan Special To The Examiner THERE is the smell of a coup in the air these days. It was like this in Iran just before the 1953 U.S.-backed coup overthrew the Mossedeah government and installed the Shah. It has the feel of 1963 in South Vietnam, before the military takeover switched on the light at the end of the long and terrible Southeast Asian tunnel. It is hauntingly similar to early September 1973, before the coup in Chile ushered in 20 years of blood and darkness. Early last month, the National Security Agency, the Pentagon and the U.S. State Department held a two-day meeting on U.S. policy toward Venezuela. Similar such meetings took place in 1953, 1963, and 1973, as well as before coups in Guatemala, Brazil and Argentina. It should send a deep chill down the backs of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and the populist coalition that took power in 1998. The catalyst for the Nov. 5-7 interagency get-together was a comment by Chavez in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist assault on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. While Chavez sharply condemned the attack, he questioned the value of bombing Afghanistan, calling it fighting terrorism with terrorism. In response, the Bush administration temporarily withdrew its ambassador and convened the meeting. The outcome was a requirement that Venezuela unequivocally condemn terrorism, including repudiating anything and anyone the Bush administration defines as terrorist. Since this includes both Cuba (with which Venezuela has extensive trade relations) and rebel groups in neighboring Colombia (to whom Chavez is sympathetic), the demand was the equivalent of throwing down the gauntlet. The spark for the statement might have been Sept. 11, but the dark clouds gathering over Venezuela have much more to do with enduring matters -- like oil, land and power. The Chavez government is presently trying to change the 60-year-old agreement with foreign oil companies that charges them as little as 1 percent in royalties and hands out huge tax breaks. There is a lot at stake here. Venezuela has 77 billion barrels of proven reserves and is the United States' third-biggest source of oil. It is also a major cash cow for the likes of Phillips Petroleum and ExxonMobil. If the new law goes through, U.S. and French oil companies will have to pony up a bigger slice of their take. A larger slice is desperately needed in Venezuela. Although oil generates some $30 billion each year, 80 percent of Venezuelans are, according to government figures, poor, and half of those are malnourished. Most rural Venezuelans have no access to land except to work it for someone else, because 2 percent of the population controls 60 percent of the land. The staggering gap between a tiny slice of haves and the sea of have nots is little talked about in the American media, which tend to focus on President Chavez's long-winded speeches and unrest among the urban wealthy and middle class. U.S. newspapers covered the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Search for bin Ashcroft - Arthur Joel Katz
-Caveat Lector- What does this guy expect - Ashcroft should get ex parte hearings before Larry King? Ashcroft cannot comment on cases such as this and the author of the above garbage surely knows it, but then noting his name - looks like another ADL donut hole in action. None dare call it propaganda. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- Listen you stupid moron - I did not write those words now prove these people to be Nazis? Now do not get too excited over this Joshua2 - I know how you react when you spy upon all those militia men - why you could hardly contain yourself for the real thing as you said. God crawl back under your rock .. O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Phallic Library escapade reveals PC fallacy:Tasteless,moronic, male bashing
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Showing your ignorance of the law? Well they say it is no excuse, but it is illegal to flash pornographic pictures before children and the art forms so displayed in the Library was pornography. Might have done better in the Gay Pride Division. Pornography by whose definition? Is it simply because it contains phalluses? If so, is Michaelangelo's David porn? As for the rest, I join others here who are frankly baffled with your obsession with homosexuality. Has absolutely nothing to do with the artwork in question. But you are known for your non-sequiturs ... - jt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Pedophocracy, Part VI
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Pedophocracy, Part VI
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
-Caveat Lector- a few things here are very interesting - let me point 2 out - The Palestinian Arabs of today, Muslims and Christians, So religion is not a part of this ethnic identity - and yet it implies that none of the aboriginal inhabitants became Jews. this is specious at best. if you are talking about foreign cultural invasion - then Islam invaded the region, Christianity invaded the region, and Judaism invaded the region ( although 2 of these 3 had their genesis in the region, but why quibble with the facts) So if the Palestinians are something other than the Islamic Arabs who came later, then the arab/muslim influence is just as much a cultural invasion as the Jewish, no? maybe more so, since Judaism traces itself to the region, and Islam does not...no? if not can explain why not? But the fact remains that the major portion of the territory, now called Israel, is still legitimately belongs to the indigenous Palestinian people. this is just factually inaccurate - the major portion of the territory that was Palestine is now called Jordan, and is an Islamic homeland for the Palestinian people. again - if you think what I am saying is incorrect, please point out where and how... thanks -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. Samuel Adams NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:18:14 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? -Caveat Lector- http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/palwhopal.html WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? Not only did the Zionists devote extraordinary efforts to defeat the Palestinians and destroy their society, but also they denied their existence. Israel Zangwill, a founder of Zionism, claimed that Palestine was ?a land without people, waiting for people without a land.?(Israel Zangwill, ?The Return to Palestine?, New Liberal Review,II, Dec. 1901, p.627) But later on he came to admit that, ?There is, however, a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he does not like to face...Palestine proper has already its own inhabitants.? (?The Voice of Jerusalem?, London, 1920, p.88) [mentioned in FF, p.4] The earliest Zionist colonialists in Palestine knew that the land they are settling on was inhabited. Christopher Sykes, pro-Zionist historian, said in his ?Crossroads to Israel 1917-1948? that ?This is the problem with Palestine, it was inhabited.? But some chose to ignore this minor problem while others tried to overcome it. Herzl, the father of Zionism, believed that the native Palestinians would resist the takeover of their country and therefore recommended that they be dealt with through ?assured supremacy?, est. brutal force and military superiority. (Herzl, ?The Jewish State: a modern Solution to the Jewish Question?, Rita Searl, 1946, p.29) [quoted in Facts and Fables, by Clifford A. Wright, p.2] He preached that the Zionists should acquire the land of their choice by armed conquest. The denial of the Palestinian existence is well and alive until today, where the Palestinians who are Israeli citizens and living in Israel, are officially known as ?the Arabs of Israel?. This denial of the Palestinian existence is a wholesale dehumanization of a people. ?Who are the Palestinians?, exclaimed Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, ?There was no such thing as a Palestinian people in Palestine. It was as though there was a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country from them. They did not exist.? (The London Sunday Times 15 June, 1969) [ quoted in Palestinians/ The Making of A People, by Baruch Kimmer Joel S. Migdal] In 1982 during the invasion of Lebanon, Prime Minister Menachem Begin, described them as, ?two-legged beasts? in a speech in the Knesset. (Begin and the ?Beasts?, by Israeli journalist Amnon Kapeliout) [quoted in FF, p.3] One of the basic facts of the Palestinian Arabs is that they exist, and have always existed and will continue to exist in spite of all the conspiracies that aim at liquidating them. The point from which their existence has been challenged arose in the war of 1948, which led to the physical dispossession of more than 800,000 of this indigenous population of Palestine. Palestine disappeared from the map and its people also disappeared from the mind and conscience of much of the world. But the fact remains that the major portion of the territory, now called Israel, is still legitimately belongs to the indigenous
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
-Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- maybe more so, since Judaism traces itself to the region, and Islam does not...no? if not can explain why not? do you know what a canaanite is? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Saba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group Listen you stupid moron not to be confused with a smart moron, of course A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] on neurons and the lack thereof
-Caveat Lector- rant? im not the one who turns to personal attacks in this conversation. I did mean it was a brilliant piece of rhetoric - but argument by analogy is always flawed. there is plenty that is fucked up about Israel. I am not one of these mindless cheerleaders for the place - I'm very critical of it. perhaps with my family history I'm also sensitive to the topic of what is or is not like nazism. but theories have to fit with historical facts. and the facts in this case are that the British empire deed some of its lands as a Jewish homeland, for right or for wrong. The historical facts are that if there had been a Jewish homeland 20 years earlier, the holocaust could not have happened the way it did. The facts are that enlightened countries like the US and the UK were sending Jewish refugees back to Germany during the war, because its easier to have someone else execute Jews, than to accept them into your own anti-Semitic society ( I remind you that many ads in the classifieds in the US in the 30's would say things like 'Christians only') -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. Samuel Adams NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:02:55 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] on neurons and the lack thereof -Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- brilliant post an article about nazi's that has nothing to do with zionism, and pretend it has some bearing very brilliant indeed you wouldn't know brilliance if it managed to actually come into contact with your pupils... if you can't see that the unleashing of the german people's repressed archetypes as the basis for naziism isn't the same meme as zionism is liberation, then i excuse you for being clue-impaired... end of discussion... rant all you want... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
-Caveat Lector- yes i do so now can you tell me why the arab/islamic invasion to the region is somehow different and ok? -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:35:16 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? -Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- maybe more so, since Judaism traces itself to the region, and Islam does not...no? if not can explain why not? do you know what a canaanite is? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Brief History of Palestine
-Caveat Lector- once again Jordan was half of Palestine, and not a separate entity Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:09:18 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Brief History of Palestine Britain and France signed the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned to France, Jordan and Iraq to Britain and Palestine was to be internationalized. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism?
-Caveat Lector- I don't think this article I was responding specified anything about Hassidim or Israel, but referred to Jews - if I'm wrong - sorry - I misunderstood - however I have spent time in Israel I have spent time around Hassidim, and other orthodox Jews never seen anything like spitting on the cross, except in the supposed rituals of the templars -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:23:04 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] are the templar traditions essentially zionism? -Caveat Lector- --- eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Eric I''ve never seen this behavior they did not teach me to spit on crosses or churches, nor have I ever seen anyone do this. -- are you hassidic? and did you grow up in israel? though this piece may not, i at least am TRYING to maintain a distinction between judaism and zionism __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] on palestine
-Caveat Lector- MAHATMA K. GANDHI: ... And now a word to the Jews in Palestine. I have no doubt that they are going about in the wrong way. The Palestine of the Biblical conception is not a geographical tract. It is in their hearts. But if they must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. http://www.moqawama.tv/v_zionis/v_doc/jews.htm Israel's Health Minister said yesterday that the assimilation of Jews into other religions throughout history was a greater tragedy for the Jewish people than the Holocaust. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=112186 Some 3,000 people rallied in Gaza City today, with around 300 gunmen firing in the air to support Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and his Fatah faction which celebrated its 37th anniversary at the New Year. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southnews/message/2052 This morning after giving a press conference at the American Colony Hotel in Jerusalem, Dr. Mustafa Barghouthi was questioned and taken by five or six Israeli plainclothes policemen. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southnews/message/2053 UN experts yesterday expressed continuing concern about Palestinian being tortured in Israel and said they had written to the government again seeking its response to the allegations. http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/isr_tor.htm Israelis using its occupation zone in the south to test a secret guided missile - with the Lebanese as target practice - before placing the weapon on the international arms market. A civilian has been killed and four others, including three fighters, have been wounded since May by the Israeli-manufactured mini cruise missile. http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/missile.htm Israelis literally steal tons of farm land from occupied zone http://www.moqawama.tv/occ_impc/oc_zone.htm After a rare admission of soil theft, Israel is now carrying out another plan to transfer Lebanon's water to territories in occupied Palestine. http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/l_water.htm The stupendous view from the hills of south Lebanon: too good to give up http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/doc_2000/good.html The Israeli shelling of a UN post at Qana in 1996 left 107 civilians dead http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/doc_2001/qana.htm Case against Sharon mounts http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/doc_2001/against.htm A British journalist conducted an interview with Dr. Anis Sayegh regarding Zionist terrorism as he was one of its victims. The interview was done on the occasion of the start of the Israeli aggression on Lebanon on the 11th of April 1996. He gave a thorough research in order that the British public opinion have an insight into the subject. The following study deals with Israeli terrorism since 1936 up until The Grapes of Wrath. http://www.moqawama.tv/v_zionis/zi_terro.htm Through Aliyah, Diaspora Jews regarded as mere 'human dust' elevate themselves to the status of human beings. As Israeli citizens, the Jews claim their rightful place as 'nation among (European) nations'. Many critics have shown how advocacy of this solution has undermined any struggle against anti-Semitism. Some critics have even shown how Zionist leaders have collaborated with anti-Semitic persecutors for the sake of that aliyah (as in Nazi Germany), or for the sake of Israel's arms sales (as during the Argentinean junta). http://www.moqawama.tv/feauters/semitism.htm As the Jewish state approaches its 50th anniversary next spring, many Israelis are taking a second look at their nation's violent inception. An AP correspondent spoke to historians deep in disagreement over Israel's national myths. http://www.moqawama.tv/v_zionis/n_histor.htm Two months ago an Israeli journalist decided to publish an account of an interview with celebrated Israeli general and defense minister Moshe Dayan that had lain untouched in a drawer for more than 20 years. In June, 1967, in the middle of the Six-Day War, Gen. Dayan ordered his troops to attack Syria and take the Golan Heights. For 30 years the Western world has considered Gen. Dayan's motives for storming the Golan Heights rather obvious. Syrian artillery on the high ground of the Heights had been mercilessly shelling Israeli settlements down below. But in the interview Gen. Dayan offered a far less self-flattering explanation for Israel's attack. It hadn't been essentially defensive after all. Gen. Dayan said Israeli farmers had been pressuring him to take the Heights because they coveted its fertile soil. http://www.moqawama.tv/feauters/hits.htm The Haavara Agreement was a pact between the Nazis and Zionists regarding Jewish emigration from Germany during the 1930's. It is the only contract between an official Third Reich authority and a Zionist organization. This agreement is considered to have benefited the interests of both parties. Haavara was intended to promote
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
-Caveat Lector- --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- yes i do so now can you tell me why the arab/islamic invasion to the region is somehow different and ok? the genocide that is occuring NOW is stoppable... a people have a right to exist... period... is your mind made up entirely of mechanisms of denial? oh yeah...i forgot...i was supposed to ignore the rantings of a brick wall... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More on palestine and Mythical Israel
-Caveat Lector- http://www.electronicintifada.net/historicalmyths/index.html Saludos, Fer A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Amnesty International: Attacks on Lebanese civilians in south Lebanon by Israeli forces
-Caveat Lector- http://www.moqawama.tv/isr_aggr/doc_2000/forces.html Amnesty International: Attacks on Lebanese civilians in south Lebanon by Israeli forces On 22 and 23 May 2000, during the withdrawal of the Israel Defence Force (IDF)* from south Lebanon and the collapse of the South Lebanon Army (SLA)**, Israel's proxy militia, a number of Lebanese were killed by Israeli or SLA fire. Information gathered by Amnesty International, including during a fact-finding visit to south Lebanon, suggests that in at least four incidents over the two days Israeli forces directed tank fire from the Israeli side of the border at Lebanese civilians, killing four people. This paper provides details of the four incidents and calls for a full investigation into them, as the killings appear to have resulted from direct attacks on civilians. If committed wilfully, such attacks would constitute a grave breach of international humanitarian law and therefore a war crime. 1. Background: the Israeli withdrawal and the demise of the SLA In the days immediately preceding the attacks referred to in this report, the IDF was withdrawing from the area of south Lebanon it called its security zone. Israel had militarily occupied this area since 1985 with the assistance of the SLA -- and effectively controlled much of it since 1978 -- arguing that it was meant to constitute a buffer protecting its northern borders against attacks. In recent years Lebanese fighters belonging to what has been referred to as the Resistance, particularly those belonging to the armed political group Hizbullah, had increased their attacks against IDF and SLA personnel in the security zone. Over the years, Amnesty International has repeatedly called on all parties to this conflict to respect their obligations under international humanitarian law to protect civilians. The Israeli government of Prime Minister Ehud Barak elected in 1999 promised to withdraw the IDF from Lebanon with or without an overall peace agreement with Lebanon and Syria. After inconclusive negotiations with Syria over the Golan Heights occupied by Israel in 1967 and continued casualties among IDF troops caused by Hizbullah fighters, the Israeli government decided to withdraw unilaterally and set 7 July as the date by which it would complete the withdrawal. The IDF began to hand over its positions to the SLA in mid-May. However, events moved rapidly. By the end of Monday 22 May the security zone had been cut into two sections by returning civilians and Hizbullah members, without serious fighting taking place. By the morning of Tuesday 23 May the western sector of the security zone collapsed, with more Lebanese civilians and armed fighters streaming in from the north. The IDF accelerated its pull-back, blowing up or shelling abandoned IDF or SLA positions and materiel, while SLA fighters were giving themselves up or heading for Israel. The IDF withdrawal was completed on the night between Tuesday 23 May and Wednesday 24 May, with thousands of SLA fighters and their families, among other Lebanese, crossing the border to seek refuge in Israel. 2. The general circumstances of the attacks On Monday 22 May hundreds of Lebanese started returning to the villages of Hulah and Markaba. Among them were armed Lebanese fighters. These movements of civilians and fighters were effectively cutting the security zone in two in its central area, without meaningful resistance by the IDF or the SLA. According to Nicholas Blanford of the Lebanese newspaper Daily Star and British newspaper The Times who was in the area that day, around midday three to five Israeli helicopters flying on the Israeli side of the border were firing on the road between Markaba and 'Adaysah. Two Israeli tanks positioned on the border near the Israeli village of Misgav Am also started firing on the road, while further Israeli fire was destroying positions and materiel abandoned by the IDF and the SLA. Nicholas Blanford told Amnesty International that on the morning of 22 May an SLA tank was hit by IDF fire after it had broken down and was abandoned near the road some 1,500 metres north of the bend where three of the attacks detailed in this report took place (one cannot see the bend from where the tank was). He was near this burning tank, in the early afternoon, with a group of about 50 civilians and some armed men who were stopping people from going further down the road: We were standing some 100 to 150 metres from the smouldering tank. I was there with Stephen Wallace and an unarmed man with a Hizbullah flag who told us he wanted to plant the flag on the tank. At that point a tank shell slammed into the dirt just below the asphalt of the road a few metres away from were we were, kicking stones and dust into the air but without causing injuries. The shell could only have come from the trees around Manara in Israel. A few seconds later we heard machine-gun fire and bullets
[CTRL] The Zionist Terrorism file
-Caveat Lector- http://www.moqawama.tv/v_zionis/zi_terro.htm The Zionist Terrorism file Anis Sayegh A British journalist conducted an interview with Dr. Anis Sayegh regarding Zionist terrorism as he was one of its victims. The interview was done on the occasion of the start of the Israeli aggression on Lebanon on the 11th of April 1996. He gave a thorough research in order that the British public opinion have an insight into the subject. The following study deals with Israeli terrorism since 1936 up until The Grapes of Wrath. I should not only draw the attention of the British public opinion to the subject of Zionist terrorism, because it is a subject that should interest the whole human race, specially after the rush of thirty government officials to the meeting of Sharm Al-Shiekh (and what has and will follow in the way of meetings to higher levels) to discuss the protection of Israel against Palestinian terrorism, but there being several minor motivation and one major one. As for the minor motivation, British Governments had in the past, a great deal to do with decisions in deciding the fate of the Arab Palestinian people in reaching their great calamity of being homeless and dispersed , and another being that Britain is the cradle for todays democracy, and the mother of freedom to the whole world generally and to us Arabs specifically. And being that the British people who are presently complaining of extreme Irish terrorism should be called upon more than any other to look into the problem of terrorism openly, objectively , fairly and in depth. Another minor motivation is the British media [Press, Radio and television] which helped greatly in the past and still does in publicizing violence. As for the major and more direct reason is that there is talk that is presently going on in an official level in Britain as to considering (urgently) Jihad as being terrorism, therefore the call for Jihad whether it be by the pen or the tongue should be considered as an involvement in terrorism, all this was set off by the Zionist authorities in Palestine and was forced upon the surrendered leadership of the Palestinian people (excuse me if I am using expressions that are no longer common, or even acceptable, during this time that we call evil times. But it has become a thing of the past that the civilized world today wants to forget because he thinks that it contradicts with the festival of peace which is forced upon us to participate in - not forgetting that these expressions are still alive and reflect the true reality while representing clear signs that speak for themselves). From here I felt for the importance in writing this peaceful tale which I hope the British reader will look into it before he is convinced of the matter of Arab terrorism. And we shall see that the terrorism is not caused by the Arab. But instead it is Israeli and Zionist from the very start. And may the reader allow me to try and be brief, as much as a Historian can be, in summarizing a huge file filled with practices of organized political groups for the past sixty years, that being the file of Zionist terrorism: violent practices that was committed by official and semi-official groups against defenseless civilians who were not fighters or military personnel, which is unlawful for government to practice in defending its peace. It is violence that contradicts with treaties that is common among developed countries, which have abided by them at least theoretically, in agreements and treaties between two or more parties or governments and publications and texts that channel into the heading of human rights and specially civilians. And I leave for the British reader, with his conscience of holding on to his deep-rooted values, to judge for himself who really is the terrorist and who is the one who needs protection from terrorism. On the condition that he uses one and the same scale to judge with- for in justice there is only one scale. And not to use different criteria, by seeing a practice correct for one group and wrong for the other. I choose to start from the 16th of April 1939, exactly 60 years ago, the date these black and bloody record started. That day the Zionist terrorist chose at random by shooting and killing two Arab civilians passing close to Betah Takfe settlement, without them having any military characteristic or military activities. And the terrorist activities continued from that moment nearly without stop until our present day. But we do not mean to specify that particular day in April 1936 that the Zionist did not commit any acts of terrorism on the Arab Palestinian before that date. There are tens of incidents that occurred in the first third of this century. But in all they were separate incidents far apart to draw a chain of events. The market places, main streets and poor residential areas in cities like Jerusalem, Yafa and Haifa
[CTRL] other sites
-Caveat Lector- http://www.abbc.com/ford/index.htm http://www.moqawama.tv/garaudy/part1.htm http://www.hizbollah.org/english/frames/index_eg.htm http://www.jerusalemites.org/ http://www.palestine-info.net/ http://www.angelfire.com/ak/southleb/main.html http://www.oppression.org/index2.html http://www.addameer.org/ http://www.followupcsld-ip.org.lb/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] First Nation Genocide in BC
-Caveat Lector- You are welcome to discuss this with the author, Rev. Annett, who is a subscriber and active participant on the list [EMAIL PROTECTED]. His book has the longest waiting list at Vancouver Public Library and he lectures on the subject. While David Ingram will not agree that there was political motivation (conspiracy) behind the sudden and unexpected cancellation of his popular current affairs tv show, I cannot support such a position which I have to say (with all due respect to David who is one of my media heros) that this is politically naive. I have seen the lives and careers of two prominent lawyers, Jack Cram and Dr. Bruce Clark utterly destroyed by the political-judicial establishment of BC because they took too strong a stand for First Nation rights. It is politically correct and even fashionable to go just so far in this direction. But Ingram interviewed Annett and Ingram took the position (which is pretty well correct in law) that ALL OF BC BELONGS TO FIRST NATIONS. I say pretty well because I think settlers have some rights in law too and I don't think even the UN courts would concede all of BC to First Nations. Ingram seems naive about how much he disturbed the establishment of BC with his show. The political-judicial establishment of BC runs roughshod over the constitutionally guaranteed democratic rights of a democratic society (Canada, unlike USA has a democracy by constitution). People become defeatist in their attitudes as they go along between elections and then every 4-5 years elect in a new shift for the dictatorship of the plutocracy in a tweedle dum/tweedle dee pseudo election. Ingram brought up the controversial issues from the De-Tax Movement to Chemtrails to the Gillian Guess Case. The Gillian Guess Case BTW was near the top of the list at Harvard Law School for current cases of importance to law students. Put all of this together and what do you get? A picture of massive corruption in the political-judicial establishment of BC. Ingram himself does not seem inclined to see that picture. Jack Cram's demise came about because he did see it that way and he called it that way. BC Legislator Judy Tyabji was on BCTV at the time saying, Jack Cram isn't on trial. The judicial system of BC is on trial. Indeed, that is what Cram was doing. He was actually attempting to put a judicial system on trial. That is what Ingram was doing without knowing it. There are volumes to add to this including the story of why a sitting BC premier would have his home raided by RCMP after dark in an unprecedented action and now finds himself under criminal charges before the BC courts. Join us if you want to discuss a real conspiracy story in super, natural, BC as our tourism slogans call us. FWP (Citizen Wayne) On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, walt wrote: Hi Folks: Was reading Nexus magazine and stumbled on this one. God! Genecide for over fifty years in Canada done to the indians there. http://annett55.freewebsite.com The full story here! Spread this far and wide! Walt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] When God went global
-Caveat Lector- http://www.arts.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2001/12/22/b ocris22.xmlsSheet=/arts/2001/12/22/ixbooks22.html When God went global (Filed: 22/12/2001) Tom Payne hails an enlightened lesson in how to read the Bible The joke How do you know Christ was Jewish? has a handful of punchlines, and my favourite one is, He took over His father's business and turned it into a multinational. Jack Miles's book examines how Christ did it, and why. Miles approaches the Bible as a literary critic. But as literary critics go, he is in an odd position. In his earlier book, God: a Biography (1995), he compared himself to the theatre-goer who wonders what Hamlet is like off-stage as well as on. Miles presented us with a literary hero who could not make up his mind. He charted the Lord's mood swings through the Tanakh - the Jewish scriptures - and aimed to account for the career of this rounded if unbalanced individual. Christ is the sequel: in it the author uses the same techniques to account for the biggest change of mind God ever had - the moment when he told his chosen people that he was going to go global. This leads Miles to deal with the Bible's own biggest conflict, which is between Christianity's Old and New Testaments. He writes: The Incarnation is Christianity's breathtaking addition to Judaism's already long list of divine self-contradiction s. A biography of the Hebrew God is hardly going to throw up the sort of fellow who would become a man and allow Himself to be crucified by Israel's conquerors. And Miles is at pains to show God in His incarnate form as the exact opposite of a divine warrior come to save the Jews from their oppressors. The author doesn't even flinch from the thought that God might be breaking His promises to His beloved people. He sees Christ's teaching that we should love our neighbour and turn the other cheek (a phrase he analyses sensitively) as part of His - God's - strategy. God's new plan to defeat His enemies is to decide not to have any. This is an especially canny p loy when the enemy is imperial Rome and there is no magic potion to be had in Jerusalem. The argument as summarised here sounds casuistic; but Miles puts his case with virtuosity and vigour (sometimes too much vigour, as when he quotes the odd verse of scripture in italics, tells us he added the italics, and on one occasion even enjoins us to note the italicised phrase). He is persuasive because of his approach to the text. Every detail in it, he says, is relevant. The Gospel writers tell us only what they want us to know; and throughout all their writing there are knowing allusions to Jewish scripture, for those who have ears to hear. Seen in this light, the New Testament appears crafted to fit in literary context with the Old. This gives the author the right - which he claims eagerly - to dispense with any need to ask if the Bible relates to things that actually happened. And yet his argument further benefits from the historical context into wh ich he puts it - the imminent destruction of Jerusalem, the massacre of 1.1 million Jews (according to Josephus) and the widespread dispersal of the survivors. It is as though some bits of history are part of the text. An d he discusses the cultural background surrounding the text fascinatingly, such as the status of Samaritans and Galileans in Palestine at the time, or the horror of being a woman there taken in adultery. It is as though h e can't help showing us the world Christ came to change. Still, if a historian's job is to look at the world after the text and ask whether the former affected the latter, it is surely up to a literary critic to ask, of the text, is it any good? The reader of Christ can be safe in the knowledge that Miles is not coming to the Bible as Anthony Powell came to the Koran (he read it with considerable skipping and called it repetitive, lacking in narrative powers, in short not a patch on the Bibl e). Miles looks at how the contents of the Bible hold together (sometimes literally - his discussion of the move from scrolls to codices has interesting implications). Needless to say, he gives it a rave. So should we give Christ a rave? Just about. It brims with ideas, and Miles has a teacher's urge to find a profusion of ways to explain those ideas. I didn't always find his use of the Tanakh convincing. Observant Jews mi ght reasonably object to him calling the acts of penance described in the Torah unimaginably wild and primitive. Devout Christians would argue that the virgin birth of Jesus is more extraordinary than the post-menopausa l parturitions of the Old Testament Miles offers as equivalents. And while we're at it, the work is laughably edited. One page alone has three misprints; a note repeats much of the text it comments on; and another note, o n a discussion of Christ's celibacy, gives us celibracy and celibrate. Is this the new gay? But this isn't the Bible. It's a
[CTRL] The latest leaflets dropped in Afghanistan
from - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20020103/us/1010092772attacks_us_leaflets_ wx114.html The front and back of leaflets being dropped in Afghanistan by the Pentagon showing what appears to be a young, beardless Osama bin Laden wearing a mustache, short hair and a Western suit and tie, an altered image that might offend followers of his and the Talibans' extremely strict version of Islam. The front show a dead al-Qaida fighter. (AP Photo/Defense Department) attachment: leaflets.jpg
[CTRL] Navy ready to evacuate coastal towns
-Caveat Lector- This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ 2002/01/03/FFXS9U5FZVC.html Navy ready to evacuate coastal towns Thursday 3 January 2002 A spot fire in the Shoalhaven on the New South Wales south coast has jumped into a nature reserve and was heading towards the popular south coast holiday spot Jervis Bay. South-westerly winds were pushing the blaze towards the township and to nearby Hyam's Beach, a NSW Fire Brigade spokesman said. The fire, which had its origins in the blaze that claimed at least 12 houses in Sussex Inlet yesterday, was surrounding St Georges Basin, he said. The spokesman said the fire could reach the coast within hours. HMAS Creswell was on standby for a mass evacuation of the area if necessary. The main road across the Blue Mountains, west of Sydney, is likely to be closed due to an approaching bushfire. NSW Rural Fire Service Commissioner Phil Koperberg said the Great Western Highway would probably be impacted by a fire front moving towards Woodford. We expect that smoke and other conditions such as burning embers and what have you will begin to impact the Great Western Highway, he said. Exactly where we don't know, but obviously plans are in place to close the Great Western Highway should that eventuate, in a fashion which is timely. We're obviously not going to close it at the last minute. PM welcomes Elvis Prime Minister John Howard today welcomed suggestions that Elvis firebombing helicopters could be rushed to NSW within days, but cautioned that he would rely on the advice of experts. Mr Howard, having indicated the federal government would consider buying a number of the $US15 million helitankers, said the commonwealth remained ready to help. Anything that can be done will be done, he told reporters in Sydney. But he added: I am not a firefighter and neither is the Premier of NSW. Both us will be taking the advice of (Fire Commissioner) Phil Koperberg. Defence Force goes in to help Four navy helicopters, a navy fire truck and crew and a 20,000 litre RAAF fuel tanker are being used to help battle bushfires devastating NSW. Australian Defence Force (ADF) bases throughout regional NSW were also being used to accommodate firefighting personnel and police, the ADF said today. Two navy Sea King helicopters were being used to transport and evacuate firefighters and residents affected by the blazes while two navy Squirrel helicopters were being used for mapping and fire-spotting, Brigadier Bornho lt said. Two ADF flexi-dams, large water bladders, are also providing temporary water storage facilities. Emergency Management Australia (EMA) said Attorney-General Daryl Williams had given approval for the ADF support to continue until January 10. EMA said the navy helicopters had been on call since Christmas Day while the fuel tanker carrying Jet A1 fuel, from RAAF Base Williamtown near Newcastle, had been based at Goulburn Airport since December 30 to refuel airc raft used for water bombing. EMA director-general David Templeman said the assistance provided by the defence force was a significant contribution to the combined community efforts in fighting the blazes. This latest request from NSW Emergency Operations Centre indicates the defence force assets have been fully incorporated into the rural fire service strategic planning with the Sea King helicopters being held in reserve should evacuations of residents in isolated bushland areas be required at short notice, Mr Templeman said. An overview of the fires Between 160 and 170 homes destroyed, including 12 to 20 yesterday in Wollondilly and Sussex Inlet More than 200 other structures destroyed including units, sheds and shops About 50 caravans, cars and boats destroyed More than 1,000 kilometres of fire burning around NSW At least 40 fires started by arsonists More than 20,000 personnel fighting fires, with one-third of them in support capacities 8,000 firefighters are on the ground at any one time 300 firefighters working just on the blaze around West Pymble Firefighters from Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia and Queensland assisting There have been no fatalities or serious injuries to firefighters More than 60 aircraft deployed each day, including the Air- Crane Helitanker nicknamed Elvis More than 300 homes were saved from the fires raging in the Pennant Hills area yesterday More than 1,000 insurance claims already made, with the total damage bill expected to exceed $50 million Efforts to control the fires have already cost tens of millions of dollars, Emergency Services Minister Bob Debus AAP This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ 2002/01/03/FFXS9U5FZVC.html ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have
[CTRL] NEVER HAVING TO SAY YOU'RE SORRY
-Caveat Lector- http://www.uexpress.com/johnleo/viewjl.cfm?uc_fn=1uc_full_date=200112 23uc_daction=Xuc_comic=jl TERRORISM MEANS NEVER HAVING TO SAY YOU'RE SORRY It's official. The campaign to humanize John Walker is under way. A possible trial for treason is a concern, of course, but the battle for Walker's image is way more important, according to consultants consulted by The New York Times. In fact, the Times nudged the humanization process along by running a Page One photo of Walker as a winsome teen-ager, wearing an aw-shucks smile and a New York Knicks T-shirt. The shirt was a deft touch. How can people associate Walker with the World Trade Center terrorists when he actually supports a New York basketball team? Still to come are the television interviews, a form of humanization unavailable to Judas Iscariot, Tokyo Rose and Benedict Arnold. (Tell us, Mr. Iscariot, was it just about those 30 pieces of silver? Wasn't there an issue of real principle involved too?) Walker might go for the conventional TV strategy of accusing his accusers: Q: John, some people just don't know you. They think of you as some sort of traitor, or even a rat. What are your feelings? A: It saddens me, Barbara, that some people have to put me down in order to feel good about themselves. Name-calling like this says more about them than it does about me. Anger comes from within. It isn't caused by other people's actions, certainly not my actions. We have to ask: Why are they attacking my lifestyle instead of dealing with their own negativity? A variation of this strategy would be the who's-to-judge, who's-to-say defense. If 10 percent to 20 percent of college students are unwilling to criticize Adolf Hitler, as one professor famously claimed, then surely a hef ty percentage of Americans can be induced to avoid judgment of Walker: Q: John, treason is a very serious charge. Your reaction? A: Montel, the only treason is refusing to follow your own heart. We all have to pick our own spiritual paths. Nobody can do it for us. It's not for me to judge your path, and I hope you don't want to judge mine. Choosing your own spirituality isn't a betrayal. It's the deepest act of personal creation. What could be more beautiful? Or Walker's handlers could just let him bury the interviewer in Marin County psychobabble. A risky strategy, but one known to work, particularly on daytime shows: Q: John, I think we all know about your search, the spiritual hunger that drives you. But what would you say to those who believe the Taliban is unworthy of you? I mean, aren't they a bit authoritarian? Do they really tre at women all that well? A: Ricki, in an American context, the Taliban might look a bit authoritarian. But remember, in a group where control is shared by all, you have a facilitative climate that empowers every person. An organic flow is created with individuals living together in an ecologically related fashion. The locus of choice still resides in each person, yet as awareness expands, intuitively the community choice becomes a shifting consensus expressing ea ch individual choice, just like the sap rising and falling in a tree when conditions make one direction or the other appropriate. I believe the women of the Taliban understand this even more clearly than the men. Q: I see ... Strategy has been complicated by the revelation that Walker isn't just a confused adolescent who drifted into the Taliban army. He is a graduate of a terrorist training camp. This may be hard to handle: Q: John, many of us respect your personal quest, but what about the terrorist training? Help us with that. A: It was a shock to me too, Geraldo. Imagine my surprise when I learned that my training wasn't just civil defense. It was a proactive course in blowing up buildings and people! Thank heaven our troops intervened before I was pushed into that sort of stuff. I think your viewers know that I stand for spiritual fulfillment and personal growth, not explosions. The probable strategy is to portray Walker as a gentle, not-too-bright soul who really isn't responsible since he may have been brainwashed. This calls for the mistakes were made admission. Since Phil Donahue retired, t he best place for the 20-minute redemption and absolution is Oprah's show: Q: John, you have outlined for us the honest errors you made along the path you chose. Admitting this must have been painful. A: It was, Oprah, but my pain isn't the issue. The important thing, as you say, is honesty. If we level with ourselves, we keep growing as persons. This is what I stand for, and if I'm punished for that, so be it. Q: Audience, what about that? (Wild applause. Fade to commercial.) COPYRIGHT 2001 JOHN LEO Originally Published on December-23-2001 ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
-Caveat Lector- The matter of the NATION of Palestine is a red herring. The fact is that people lived there from an ancestry so distant the records are lost in time and they were then displaced by the millions with tens of thousands killed in a 50 year long litany of terror. That is fact. Whatever the reasons given by the invaders that is fact. Americans who had property seized in Cuba under violations which pale by comparison are still complaining to the US Government and are heard with sympathy. Palestinians OTOH, who do no less to repel the invaders than Americans would do are then somehow presented as the aggressors and terrorists. There are 1,000,000 Americans living in Canada. If invaders of any kind were to seize their land here for any reason and start killing them by the tens of thousands what do you think they would do? Do you think telling them they are just living here in Canada and have no nation in Canada would somehow pacify them or that they should move across the border to the USA (as Palestinians are told to move to Jordon)? POC On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- a few things here are very interesting - let me point 2 out - The Palestinian Arabs of today, Muslims and Christians, So religion is not a part of this ethnic identity - and yet it implies that none of the aboriginal inhabitants became Jews. this is specious at best. if you are talking about foreign cultural invasion - then Islam invaded the region, Christianity invaded the region, and Judaism invaded the region ( although 2 of these 3 had their genesis in the region, but why quibble with the facts) So if the Palestinians are something other than the Islamic Arabs who came later, then the arab/muslim influence is just as much a cultural invasion as the Jewish, no? maybe more so, since Judaism traces itself to the region, and Islam does not...no? if not can explain why not? But the fact remains that the major portion of the territory, now called Israel, is still legitimately belongs to the indigenous Palestinian people. this is just factually inaccurate - the major portion of the territory that was Palestine is now called Jordan, and is an Islamic homeland for the Palestinian people. again - if you think what I am saying is incorrect, please point out where and how... thanks -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. Samuel Adams NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:18:14 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? -Caveat Lector- http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/palwhopal.html WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? Not only did the Zionists devote extraordinary efforts to defeat the Palestinians and destroy their society, but also they denied their existence. Israel Zangwill, a founder of Zionism, claimed that Palestine was ?a land without people, waiting for people without a land.?(Israel Zangwill, ?The Return to Palestine?, New Liberal Review,II, Dec. 1901, p.627) But later on he came to admit that, ?There is, however, a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he does not like to face...Palestine proper has already its own inhabitants.? (?The Voice of Jerusalem?, London, 1920, p.88) [mentioned in FF, p.4] The earliest Zionist colonialists in Palestine knew that the land they are settling on was inhabited. Christopher Sykes, pro-Zionist historian, said in his ?Crossroads to Israel 1917-1948? that ?This is the problem with Palestine, it was inhabited.? But some chose to ignore this minor problem while others tried to overcome it. Herzl, the father of Zionism, believed that the native Palestinians would resist the takeover of their country and therefore recommended that they be dealt with through ?assured supremacy?, est. brutal force and military superiority. (Herzl, ?The Jewish State: a modern Solution to the Jewish Question?, Rita Searl, 1946, p.29) [quoted in Facts and Fables, by Clifford A. Wright, p.2] He preached that the Zionists should acquire the land of their choice by armed conquest. The denial of the Palestinian existence is well and alive until today, where the Palestinians who are Israeli citizens and living in Israel, are officially known as ?the Arabs of Israel?. This denial of the Palestinian existence is a wholesale dehumanization of a people. ?Who are the Palestinians?, exclaimed Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, ?There was no
[CTRL] Jewish Racism against Arabs
-Caveat Lector- Jewish Racism against Arabs Arabs are beasts, no human beings. Their flesh is flesh from mules and therefor they should be treated as such. this is part of the greatest work of Jewish religious philosophy In 1962, a part of the Maimonidean Code referred to above, the so-called Book of Knowledge, which contains the most basic rules of Jewish faith and practice ... Maimonides ... was also a philosopher and his Guide to the Perplexed is justly considered to be the greatest work of Jewish religious philosophy and is widely read and used even today. Unfortunately, in addition to his attitude towards non-Jews generally and Christians in particular, Maimonides was also an anti-Black racist. Towards the end of the Guide, in a crucial chapter (book III, chapter 51) he discusses how various sections of humanity can attain the supreme religious value, the true worship of God. Among those who are incapable of even approaching this are: Some of the Turks [i.e., the Mongol race] and the nomads in the North, and the Blacks and the nomads in the South, and those who resemble them in our climates. And their nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings, and their level among existing things is below that of a man and above that of a monkey, because they have the image and the resemblance of a man more than a monkey does. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, Pluto Press, London 1994, page 24/25 (Chapter 2: Prejudice and Prevarication) The fruits of the greatest Jewish philosophy flourishes in modern Israel and modern Judaism Sharon Kalimi is a member of a strict orthodox Breslau Hasidim community and he expresses openly a view that is now common amongst pious Jews, according to the highly respected German daily 'Süddeutsche Zeitung'. We quote from the Süddeutsche Zeitung: Süddeutsche Zeitung (Munich), April 3,1999 (SZ On Easter) page III The Spring of Hate Sharon Kalimi, a Hasidim Jew: Arabs are beasts, no human beings. Their flesh is flesh from mules and therefor they should be treated as such. http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/judaism/arabs.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] An Introduction to the Palestinian Question
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/introduction.htm An Introduction to the Palestinian Question It is impossible to deal with the struggle that is taking place over the occupied Palestinian territory as a model of a normal human struggle. It is also impossible to consider this struggle as a continuation of the struggles that have not stopped between different powers to control the Palestinian territory for economic, military, or even religious reasons. The struggle between the Arab Nations--on various levels--and Israel forms a struggle that involves historical and political situations, economic and religious factors, and even the civilized view of the Arab-Islamic region and its role in the procession of human civilization. It would be enough to examine the stages of history that the Palestinian Problem went through to explain this fact. As the European colonialist competition arose at the end of the eighth century to succeed the Ottoman Empire in order to control the strategic Indian passageway and to form a major factor to outline the politics of the European countries, the Jewish activists, with European support in which Germany and England participated, tried to force the Ottoman Caliphate to make an agreement with Sultan Abd Al Hameed the Second that would give the Jews the right to settle in Palestine and the permission to emigrate to it. However, Sultan Abd Al Hameed refused to submit to either the European pressure or to the temptations offered by the Jews. In the period between 1900 and 1901, Sultan Abd Al Hameed issued a statement forbidding the Jewish travelers from settling in Palestine for more than three months. Furthermore, he ordered that the Jews be prevented from buying any Palestinian land, for he feared that this would turn the land into a foundation that would enable them to separate Palestine from the Islamic world. In 1902, the Jews proposed a tempting offer to Sultan Abd Al Hameed in which the rich Jews would promise to pay all the debts of the Ottoman State, to build a squadron to defend it, and to offer a loan of 35 million gold dinars for the Ottoman's run-down public treasury. However, Sultan Abd Al Hameed refused all offers. His reply to the offer, which came via a memorandum sent to Theodor Herzl, was Advise Doctor Herzl not to take serious steps in this matter because I cannot give up one foot of the land for it is not my personal property; it is the property of my people. My people fought for the sake of this land and their blood was shed. Let the Jews save their millions. If my empire is torn apart one day, the Jews can separate Palestine without any cost. However, as long as I am alive, dissecting my body with a knife is easier for me than to see Palestine separated away from the Islamic State. And this will not be. I cannot agree with dissecting our bodies as long as we are living. When the Jews became certain of the failure of all possible attempts, they began working on the declination of the Ottoman Empire. They were able to creep in through the Donma Jewish Sect, the people of which pretended to be Muslims and carried Turkish names and entered the Union and Progress Society, thus they were able to seize the power in 1907. The Jews increased their activities in Palestine with the support of the followers of the Union and Progress Society. The Jews of Donma seized the reigns of government in Asetana because the new Ottoman ruler had allowed them to immigrate to Palestine and to buy Palestinian land. This was what paved the way for the Zionist organizations to start practicing their activities on wide scale until the Caliphate was declined formally in 1924. Then, the British military forces occupied Palestine. The advantages of colonization in taking Palestine away from the Arab world met with those of the Jews in establishing a national homeland. Actually, it was the European rulers who offered a national home on Palestinian land for the Jews long before the Jews themselves suggested it. In particular, the offer came from France and Britain in an attempt to get rid of the Jewish problem in Europe and to achieve colonial gains from the Jewish State. The colonialist competition between France and Britain was obvious in the Middle East even before the establishment of the Zionist Movement. The aims of both were to defend their benefits in the area, to cause harm to it or to compete with it regarding those benefits, and to find different ways to defend these benefits. Britain thought that after the failure of Napoleon Bonaparte in Egypt and Bilad Al-Sham, it would be useful to look for other alternatives in the Middle East for the continuation of its superiority over France. She found Palestine a suitable place to spread her authority because of its geographical location-that being the centre of the Arab region and because it is considered the gateway between Asia and Africa. Therefore, it is for the benefit of the European and British
[CTRL] Heart may be able to repair itself
-Caveat Lector- Heart May Be Able to Repair Itself By STEPHANIE NANO Associated Press Writer Dr. Piero Anversa Challenging generations of medical lore, researchers have found striking new evidence that the human heart can repair itself. Doctors have long assumed that damage from a heart attack or other ailment is irreversible and that the heart cannot regenerate tissue the way other organs can. But that belief has been shaken by recent research. A team of American and Italian researchers demonstrated last year that heart muscle cells multiply after a heart attack. Now they have shown that in heart transplant patients, primitive cells from the patient travel to the new heart and grow new muscle and blood vessels. The researchers studied men who received transplanted hearts from women, and discovered male cells in the donated female hearts. The discovery could help scientists eventually devise treatments to fix bad hearts. ``There have been hints from animal studies that the cells could migrate before, but this is the first demonstration in a human that it is actually possible,'' said John Fakunding of the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which helped pay for the study in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine. The researchers found that heart muscle and blood vessels grew rapidly in the new hearts after transplant. They calculated that as much as one-fifth of the donor heart had been rebuilt by the recipient's own cells. ``Clearly this shows that the heart has the ability to regenerate,'' said Dr. Roberto Bolli of the University of Louisville, who wrote an accompanying editorial. ``It could be a milestone discovery if we learn how to exploit this phenomenon for therapeutic purposes to regenerate heart muscle in patients with heart failure.'' The researchers looked for the male Y chromosome in eight female hearts that were transplanted into men. After the heart recipients died, tissue samples were taken from each donor heart and from remnants of the old heart not remo ved during transplant surgery. The researchers found evidence of the primitive cells with stem cell characteristics in the remnants of the old hearts, as well as in the donor hearts. The primitive cells from the recipient could also have come through the patient's bloodstream. ``We have the first strong suggestions that the heart has primitive cells - meaning cardiac stem cells - which could be used in the future to repair the heart,'' said Dr. Piero Anversa, who led the researchers at New York Medical College in Valhalla, N.Y., and the University of Udine and the University of Parma in Italy. Stem cells are master cells that transform themselves into certain types of tissue, such as muscle, skin or bone. Doctors believe stem cells could one day be used to replace or fix failing organs. Anversa said he and his colleagues are working to identify whether a cardiac stem cell exists and whether it can be manipulated to promote heart repair. ``This is the work that we will be doing for the next couple of years,'' he said. In the meantime, Anversa said his belief that the heart can repair itself is slowly gaining acceptance. ``I think it is going to be more and more difficult to challenge us.'' he said. --- On the Net: New England Journal: http://www.nejm.org A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Our Misguided Patriotism
-Caveat Lector- http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/shelton/20020102.htm The Misplaced Passions Of Our Misguided Patriotism By Lee R. Shelton IV Toogood Reports [Wednesday, January 2, 2002; 12:01 a.m. EST] URL: http://ToogoodReports.com/ What is patriotism? If you subscribe to the dictionary definition of the word you would say that patriotism is the love for or the devotion to one's country. If, however, you subscribe to the prevailing post-9/ 11 definition you would say that patriotism is the blind, unquestioning devotion to one's national government. There is, as you might guess, a huge difference. This redefining of patriotism has been evident across the entire political spectrum. Conservatives, who have made a living voicing their opposition to big government yet have failed to do anything about it, have climbed aboard the patriotic bandwagon and have stated their unwavering support of President Bush's methods in his war on terrorism. Liberals, who have enjoyed demonizing the military except when their boy Clinton was in office, are now waving flags along with their conservative brethren and are even joining in choruses of God Bless America. The average American can also show his or her patriotism by proudly displaying Old Glory in virtually every venue imaginable. The flag of our federal government can be seen unfurled on T-shirts, jackets, socks, lapel pins, football helmets, stocking caps, coffee mugs, serving trays, napkins, towels, ball point pens, bumper stickers...the list is endless. By flying the flag they are sending Washington a message: We're behind you! We support you 110%! Go get 'em! That's all well and good. If what happened on September 11 was an act of war, Congress should declare war and see to it that the threat against our national security is eliminated. But what we have now is not technically a war. Ever since 1941, declaring war has been viewed as a mere formality, something we can avoid by sidestepping the Constitution and allowing the president to have unilateral control of the military. I suppose waiting for Congress to declare war only gets in the way of the Commander in Chief´s ability to do what we elected him to do. We have forgotten that our government needs constitutional restraints and have come to the conclusion that to limit government in times of crisis is unpatriotic. We have decided that our immediate albeit temporary safety is worth sacrificing a little liberty. You want military tribunals without a declaration of war and with no congressional oversight? You got it! You want a new government bureaucracy created to mandate strategies for local law enforcement? No problem! You want the federal government to take over airport security despite its inability to protect our borders? Consider it done! Our leaders in Washington are hoping that we are so embroiled in our patriotism that we will go along with their efforts to assume more power than they were ever meant to have. Many Americans are so blinded by their neo-patriotism that just about anything short of an outright ban on the freedom of speech will be tolerated. And I cannot even say that with complete confidence. Politicians would have you believe that the true patriots are those concentrating on our current undeclared war and are devoted to avenging the deaths of thousands of Americans. In their minds, true patriots do not question authority when Congress and the president are trying to do their jobs. We´re at war. How dare anyone second- guess the intentions of the ruling class! Unfortunately, too many people have forgotten what a true patriot is. True patriots are those who are still devoted to upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States and the principles that built this nation. True patriots understand that limitations have been placed on the federal government for a reason, and that without those limitations we are no better than the tyrannical regimes we claim to abhor. True patriots know that Uncle Sam poses a bigger threat to our freedoms than Uncle Osama. Whether you believe we are engaged in a just war or not, the fact remains that our government has historically capitalized on crises in order to pry liberty from the hands of the very citizens whose rights it has sworn to protect. A true patriot would not cave in to the pressure to exchange liberty for safety. A true patriot would remain wary of every move the government made and would scrutinize the government's actions in light of the Constitution. Irish statesman John Philpot Curran once said, The condition upon which G-d hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt. I can't help but wonder, are there any true patriots left in America? NOTICE TO WRITERS: To obtain required information prior to submitting your essay to Toogood Reports for publication send for Commentary Submissions
Re: [CTRL] CI (Christian Identity) vs. JI (Jewish Identity)
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, eric stewart wrote: --- Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Here is the full title of Edward Hine's best seller from the late 1800's: Forty-Seven Identifications of the British Nation with the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel founded upon Five Hundred Scripture Proofs. i am disgusted already...scriptural proofs? Religious dogmas do cloud the issues in the JI vs. CI debate which has been going on for centuries. But for those who wish to take an impartial and scholarly look at the right of return which is said to ensue from IDENTITY (with the original Israelites) I go back to three categories of argument. First there is biological-genetic-familial so let's just call this (1) Biological. Then there are cultural-social-religious arguments so let's call this (2) Cultural and finally, perhaps the most difficult of all to turn into reasoned argument, there are arguments about (3) Spirituality, eg God or G-d gave us this land. I find merits and flaws in both JI and CI positions overall. I don't think any amount of fact or truth or reason is going to convince the dogmatists and there are many on both sides. I am sure that no amount of reasoned debate is going to stop the dreadful blood feud in the Middle East. But while we are waiting for the Apocalypse which some say will be the final solution to the matter, those of us who value scholarly and reasoned investigation can have a look at the overall model for debate based on the three categories above. POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Earthquake Rocks South Asia
-Caveat Lector- http://india.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=488group=webcast Earthquake Rocks South Asia by from CNN 5:34am Thu Jan 3 '02 An earthquake measuring magnitude 6 shook parts of Afghanistan, Pakistan and India on Thursday, seismologists reported. ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- An earthquake measuring magnitude 6 shook parts of Afghanistan, Pakistan and India on Thursday, seismologists reported. The quake was centered in the Hindu Kush mountain range in Afghanistan, about 110 kilometers (70 miles) west of Chitral, Pakistan, the U.S. Geological Survey said. It was felt first in the Afghan cities of Kabul and Jalalabad around 11:35 a.m. (2:05 a.m. EST). In Kabul, CNN's John Raedler was in the fifth floor of the Intercontinental Hotel when the quake struck. The shuddering appeared to last about 10 seconds, shaking the floor and walls, he said. Two clocks hanging on the wall began swinging. Looking over Kabul from the hotel, he said, there were no obvious signs of earthquake damage. Two minutes later, the quake was felt in Islamabad, Pakistan. It lasted at least one minute, CNN staff there said. Parts of northern India, including sections of New Delhi, were also shaken by the earthquake. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] URL Correction for Annett Site
-Caveat Lector- Apologies. The correct web site is http://annett55.freewebsites.com and the footer for the Ingram List is below, FYI. FWP To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In August, 2001, the popular Ingram show was cancelled, suddenly and without explanation. It was the only televised challenge to the social-political establishment of BC. Why did this happen? What can be done to remedy this assault against our by-Constitution democratic society? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Physicians Report: Amir Did Not Kill Rabin
-Caveat Lector-
From
Arutz Sheva IsraelNationalNews.com
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=15697PHPSESSID=8616890
5a67cc0771bdb790b70028b54
}}}Begin
Physicians Report: Amir Did Not Kill Rabin
A physicians investigation into the murder of Prime Minister Yitzhak
Rabin suggests that convicted assassin Yigal Amir did not fire the
fatal bullets that killed the premier on Nov 4th, 1995. Itim news
agency reports that at a press conference held in Tel Aviv yesterday,
Yaakov Varker, CPA, announced the findings of the investigation
conducted by Dr. David Chen, a physician affiliated with Assaf
HaRofeh Hospital. The Ministry of Health did not permit Dr. Chen
himself to present the conclusions of his research. Chens findings
show that the bullets fired by Yigal Amir were copper- headed while
the pathological findings on Rabins body show that lead bullets
killed him.
Participants at the conference demanded the establishment of a
government-appointed public committee to re-investigate a series of
questions surrounding Rabins murder. Rabin's daughter MK Dalia Rabin-
Pelosoff, in an interview four years after the murder, listed some of
the unanswered questions which she said, trouble me every day:
Someone shouted, 'This is a blank', and there is no answer as to who shouted My
mother rang me at home immediately after it happened and told me, 'They shot Abba
[Father], but it's not for real.'
When the security
people drove her in a different car to the hospital, they told her that it wasn't
real. And when she asked questions, they were silent and did not answer a single
question of hers...
There are very many question marks around everything that happened immediately after
the assassination. How was it that in the car that drove Imma [mother-- the late Leah
Rabin], the security people did not speak with an
yone the entire way? Why didn't they let Imma drive with Abba? Why did they separate
them and take her in a separate car? ...
Why did they take Imma from the place of the assassination? Why did they want to
hustle her away from the scene of the event as fast as possible? Why did they tell her
that this was an exercise? What exercise? And what h
appened to the so-essential instincts of every security person? Why didn't they
immediately kill the assassin? How did it happen that they didn't shoot him? ...
They accuse Yigal Amir. But it is not so simple. It is much deeper, and much more
complex... I know that we in the family will find no rest until we will know the
truth... [Also] for example, the inconsistency between th
e report of the doctor who received Abba when he arrived at Ichilov [Hospital] and the
pathology report. This does not leave me. The feeling of frustration is very, very
difficult...
Prof. Aryeh Zaritsky also spoke at yesterday's Tel Aviv conference.
He asserts that there was undoubtedly a conspiracy among close Rabin
aides who worked to de-legitimize the opposition and place the
responsibility for the assassination on the entire right-wing camp.
Zaritsky further said that the investigation of the murder shows that
Yigal Amir could not have been the assassin.
Author Barry Chamish, who has published books contradicting the
official government findings of the Rabin murder, attended
yesterdays press conference. Chamish has been speaking throughout
Israel and internationally explaining his findings, which conclude
that Amir actually fired blanks and was not the assassin. Chamish
points out discrepancies in the conclusions of the government-
appointed Shamgar Commission that investigated the assassination.
End{{{
~~~
Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material
is distributed without charge or profit to those who have
expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information
for non-profit research and educational purposes only.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe
simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not
believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do
not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not
believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men.
Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it
agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all.
Then accept it and live up to it.
The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled
one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
[CTRL] Fw: Uganda Women against War [fwd]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: hde_tollenaere [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:12 AM Subject: Uganda Women against War [fwd] ANTI-WAR MESSAGE FROM THE WOMEN OF UGANDA Dear Sisters, We the women of Kaabong Women's Group on behalf of the rural grassroots women in Uganda, especially Karamoja region, are opposing military actions, budgets, arms fairs, and highly condemn the acts of terrorism and the revenge the USA has taken. Women, children are dying innocently. We bring this message of millions of women deprived of their basic human rights and status in all parts of the world and we join the International Women Count Network in London as we come to the third Global Women's Strike in which we shall all participate, with the theme Invest in caring not killing. Women and children are the majority of those killed and wounded in armed conflicts, besides their hard work of life-giving, going through severe hardship, cleaning, nursing, building, walking miles for clean water. All of us who have joined the Global Women's Strike are here on earth as living witnesses of thousands of people - women who suffer acts of violence and injustice caused by armed conflicts. We forced political and economic leaders to listen to us about military budgets, but we've failed to obtain even one satisfactory response to our demands. The demands stand unchanged. It is up to us to continue acting with all anti-neo-liberal globalization and anti-sexist movements to force international financial institutions (World Bank IMF) to radically change course and to make the UN assume veritable political leadership in the people's, particularly women's, interests. We must also find the means and the platform from which to continue our action to eliminate violence in the world. We have a lot on our plates. Members of Kaabong Women's group had a silence of prayers for all those who died in the terrorists act in New York and Washington and for the Women and Children who died in Afghanistan. Throughout history, women have crossed geographical, cultural and ideological borders in search of peace. We the women can find an end to this terrible act. Join us on the third Global Women's Strike so that we make it real: CARING NOT KILLING Yours in Power to the Sisters, Grace Loumo Met vriendelijke groet/Best wishes, - Herman de Tollenaere - My Internet site on Asian history and new religions: http://www.asianhistory.myweb.nl/ See also SIMPOS, information on occult tendencies' impact on society: http://www.stelling.nl/simpos/simpoeng.htm - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN IDENTITY IDEA INSTIGATED BY DR.JOHN DEE
-Caveat Lector- The major proponent of the Racist Christian Identity Movement in the United States today has to be Pastor Peter J. Peters of Denver Colorado. This DOGMA promoted by the BRITISH EMPIRE first came into being in 1571 during the Reign of Elizabeth the First. ( A Tudor Queen ). The Royal Black Magician who conjured up this notion was none other than the VERY FIRST 007 of MI-6. The mysterious Dr.John Dee. Dr. Dee spent his whole life figuring how to establish a BRITISH MARITIME EMPIRE and then SUBJUGATE the people of the various colonies. The idea of the TEN LOST TRIBES of ISRAEL seemed the perfect mode to keep the peoples of the colonies loyal to the CROWN. ( Especially if they thought they were the COVENANT PEOPLES ). Pastor Peters even goes so far as to say that the very word BRITISH in HEBREW means COVENANT-MAN. Dr.JOHN DEE's original hypothesis ( which seems to have worked ) is spelled out meticulously in FRANCIS A. YATES'S THE OCCULT PHILOSOPHY IN THE ELIZABETHAN AGE copyright 1978 and published by ROUTLEDGE KEGAN PAUL of LONDON and BOSTON. It was also the very educated Dr.JOHN DEE and SIR FRANCIS WALSHINGHAM who first conjured up the image of the BRITISH SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE in 1575. Which they played to the fullest extent before the landmark Naval Battle of the Spanish Armada in 1588. ( Thus establishing Englands Rule of the Seas which lasted up until 1945 ). It was also on the Eve of the Battle of the Spanish Armada that the REAL HEIR to the BRITISH THRONE was murdered in the TOWER of LONDON. ( MARY STUART ) MARY'S GREAT.G.G.G.G.G.GRANDSON MICHAEL ALEXANDER STUART is living in Scotland today. PRINCE MICHAEL is PRESIDENT of the EUROPEAN COUNCIL of PRINCES. ( a 33 MEMBER ADVISORY BOARD ) to the European Union. PRINCE MICHAEL'S Close personal friend is SIR LAURENCE GARDNER author of GENESIS of the GRAIL KINGS and REALM of the RING LORDS . Two very insightful books. -Original Message- From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] CI (Christian Identity) vs. JI (Jewish Identity) -Caveat Lector- On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, eric stewart wrote: --- Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Here is the full title of Edward Hine's best seller from the late 1800's: Forty-Seven Identifications of the British Nation with the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel founded upon Five Hundred Scripture Proofs. i am disgusted already...scriptural proofs? Religious dogmas do cloud the issues in the JI vs. CI debate which has been going on for centuries. But for those who wish to take an impartial and scholarly look at the right of return which is said to ensue from IDENTITY (with the original Israelites) I go back to three categories of argument. First there is biological-genetic-familial so let's just call this (1) Biological. Then there are cultural-social-religious arguments so let's call this (2) Cultural and finally, perhaps the most difficult of all to turn into reasoned argument, there are arguments about (3) Spirituality, eg God or G-d gave us this land. I find merits and flaws in both JI and CI positions overall. I don't think any amount of fact or truth or reason is going to convince the dogmatists and there are many on both sides. I am sure that no amount of reasoned debate is going to stop the dreadful blood feud in the Middle East. But while we are waiting for the Apocalypse which some say will be the final solution to the matter, those of us who value scholarly and reasoned investigation can have a look at the overall model for debate based on the three categories above. POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
Re: [CTRL] ENGLAND:TEN LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL OR NORDIC ARYANS
-Caveat Lector- Evidently ADOLF HITLER didnt subscribe to the TEN LOST TRIBES of ISRAEL THEORY ( BRITISH ISRAEL ) because when the WAFFEN SS and WEHRMACHT PANZER UNITS had the BRITISH bottled up at DUNKIRK in MAY 1940 he chose to call the DOGS OFF. In fact the PANZER GENERALS pleaded with him. MEIN FUEHRER why dont you ALLOW us to DRIVE them into the sea. HITLER REPLIED. GENTLEMEN. GENTLEMEN. YOU'RE MISSING the WHOLE POINT. WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF KILLING ARYANS. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] United States has already seen a case of germ-warfare conducted on innocent civi
-Caveat Lector- the guy that arranged all of this had a vendetta against the rajneesh commune... he was an fbi informant... the fbi spent 3 years assigning a team of 40 people to osho to look for something on the guy...after 3 years they found an immigration technicality and used 80 some batf agents to manacle him [at 80 years old] and drag him off to jail...after about a year of being shipped between dozens of jails and with no charges being filed...he died of poisoning of some heavy metal... you tell me if he was one of the good guys ever heard of the batf? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Iraq deploying 'super-cannons'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25918 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! FROM DEBKA INTELLIGENCE FILES Iraq deploying 'super-cannons' 7 nations involved in invasion plans set for February -- -- Editor's note: DEBKAfile's electronic news publication is a news-cum-analysis live wire, online round the clock seven days a week. A weekly edition, DEBKA-Net-Weekly, is now available through WorldNetDaily.com. Drawing on DEBKAfile's unique sources, analytical talents and forward-looking insights, it is presented as a compact, intelligence-angled weekly package. It is available as a direct e-mail feed or via the Internet. © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com American preparations for a major offensive against Iraq are massive and continuous, set in place layer by layer -- but sources say a seven-nation attack on Saddam Hussein is not likely before mid- to late-February. Military sources disclose that over the coming weekend, U.S. fighter plane and bomber squadrons will be flying into three air bases: Kuwait, Egyptâs Sinai Desert and the Israeli Negev. Call-ups issued in early December have mobilized 10,000 U.S. military personnel, air crews and Air Force intelligence officers and technicians, who were ordered to report for duty after New Yearâs Day. Last month, the U.S. Third Army command, led by Lt. Gen. Paul Mikolashek, transferred to Kuwait from its peacetime headquarters in Fort McPherson. When the attack comes, high on the coalition's agenda will be targeting Iraq's newly discovered super-cannons, which now number three or four, according to intelligence sources. U.S. Army, Navy and Air Force might is being assembled in Israel. In the central and southern regions, U.S. emergency stores of armor, artillery, combat helicopters and military vehicles have been opened up. Equipment has been readied for war, fitted with sensitive electronic communications systems and loaded with ammunition. From early December, ships of the U.S. Sixth Fleet have been entering the Israeli Mediterranean port of Haifa. They carry large quantities of drugs to counter poison gas, chemical and biological attacks, as well as protective equipment against nuclear radiation for Israelis and for American personnel in Israel and the Sinai. The Third Army, now on the move toward the Middle East, numbers nine divisions, among them the 82nd Airborne, 101st Air Assault, 24th Infantry (Mechanized), 1st Infantry (Mechanized), 1st Cavalry, 1st Armored and 3rd Armored. By early February, 75,000 U.S. troops will be positioned on the Iraqi front. This high concentration of military personnel means that Washingtonâs concept of the Iraqi campaign is quite different from its approach to the war in Afghanistan, where few U.S. servicemen were deployed outside the Air Force. The Iraqi theater will be broad and multinational, involving at least seven countries -- Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon and Turkey. The ultimate line-up will be determined by political and military developments in the region. But U.S. military planners are counting the armies of three nations â Turkey, Israel and Jordan â as combatant alongside U.S. forces. Military sources sketch the following preliminary blueprint for the yet-to-be finalized U.S. assault plan. It will come in the form of a simultaneous three-prong offensive: Target One: Iraqâs political power centers and military headquarters â most of which have already been moved to safe underground quarters â will be hit from the air by bombs and missiles. Target Two: Turkish armor and infantry, backed by local Kurdish tribes, will lead off the ground campaign in northern Iraq. Negotiations to co-opt the local Kurds are still going on. Target Three: U.S., Israeli and Jordanian elite infantry and Special Forces will raid army concentrations and convoys and hit Iraqi warplanes and missile batteries in their bases in an area stretching from central Iraq to the north, including the Iraqi Western Desert. These essentially hit-and-run forays will aim to destroy command centers, anti-aircraft systems, artillery and tanks, without miring the troops in lengthy skirmishes. This tactic was prompted by the latest intelligence reaching U.S. military planners whereby Saddam Hussein was reported to be taking a leaf out of the 1991 Gulf War manual and the Afghanistan War guidelines, to institute a new strategy. He has ordered the breakup of the large Republican Guard armored divisions, formerly the backbone of Iraqâs main fighting force, into small mobile units, capable of autonomous operation for long periods over broad stretches of territory. By this fragmentation of its military strength, Iraq hopes to: 1. Confound U.S., Israeli and Turkish air forces by compelling them to chase fast, small, low-profile units that are hard to find,
[CTRL] Ex-president of Iran backs nuking Israel
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25907 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Ex-president of Iran backs nuking Israel Rafsanjani warns of WWIII: 'Leave nothing on the ground' -- -- © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Former Iranian president Ali Akhbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, in a major speech, has advocated the annihilation of the state of Israel with nuclear weapons. If the Islamic world comes to possess nuclear weapons, he said in his World Al-Quds Day sermon, attended by thousands of Islamic worshippers, their use in attacking Israel would leave nothing on the ground in the Jewish state, but would only damage Islam. Here, collated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, are the core elements of Rafsanjani's speech, delivered at Tehran University on Dec. 14. The text below, rather than a single direct translation, is a composite based on reports in three Iranian newspapers â Iran News (English), Kayhan (Farsi) and Al-Wifaq (Arabic). 'Artificial' state of Israel Global arrogance, led by the U.S. and U.K., is responsible for the crimes that the artificial state of Israel has been committing worldwide over the past half-century, said Rafsanjani, who currently holds the position of Expediency Council chairman. The U.N. and other segments of the arrogant world have been supporting Israeli crimes, he said, and -- cautioning against what he called global arrogance arms buildup [by the U.S.] in an attempt to revive the colonialist era -- he asked nations and governments to prevent colonialism from attaining its goals. International Zionism, Rafsanjani added, has been the driving force of this ugly phenomenon; Zionism is divisive; a century has passed since the onset of Zionism, but not every Jew is a Zionist, and not all members of the Zionist party are Jews. He noted that the Zionist party is still highly active worldwide, and is the driving force of important events taking place in the world in connection with Israel. He called the disasters that have occurred in the half-century-old state of Israel an encyclopedia of colonial crimes. Palestinians are not the only ones to have suffered from the plan to establish this forged Israeli state; he said, adding that the Jews too are paying the price. Rafsanjani claimed that the Jews had a place in various parts of the world, living rather well in each country. But this phenomenon [Zionism] caused them to take a stance regarding their religious state and leave their homes, under pressure and in the name of migration [to Israel]. Jews should wait for a day when this extraneous matter would be removed from the region and the world of Islam, and those who have gathered together in Israel would one day be dispersed again. The formation of the Zionist state in the land of Palestine, said the former Iranian leader, was a multi-faceted base for colonialism. By this means, the West rid itself of Zionism, while establishing it in Palestine. Meanwhile, the colonialists affiliated themselves with Zionism and the state of Israel so as to keep them like a tool in their service, even though, for its own survival, colonialism is itself dependent on Zionism. With the formation of Israel, colonialists created insecurity in the region, exposing states to threats so as to bring them under the dominion of colonialism, said Rafsanjani. The survival of Israel depends on the interests of global arrogance and colonialism, and as long as this base is beneficial to them, they will preserve it. Solving 'Israel problem' with nukes Rafsanjani said that Muslims must surround colonialism and force them [the colonialists] to see whether Israel is beneficial to them or not. If one day, he said, the world of Islam comes to possess the weapons currently in Israel's possession [meaning nuclear weapons] -- on that day this method of global arrogance would come to a dead end. This, he said, is because the use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, whereas it will only damage the world of Islam. Is unlikely that the Palestinian jihad will weaken, said Rafsanjani, who explained that the Palestinians have come to the conclusion that talks [with Israel] are effective only along with struggle and self-sacrifice â the two key elements that gave way to the second Intifada. The Palestinian jihad is the mother of many Islamic movements, he said, ranging from the [1979] Islamic Revolution in Iran to Islamic movements in Lebanon, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Central Asia, and many other Muslim states. All these Islamic movements support the Palestinian jihad and have not forgotten it. The Palestinian jihad has its roots in the homelessness of five million people. Undoubtedly, [this jihad's] culmination will be the liberation of Palestine, he said. The threat of WWIII Rafsanjani added that in its propaganda
[CTRL] Saudis help Hamas with rocket project
-Caveat Lector- http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=113233contrassID=2 subContrassID=1sbSubContrassID=0 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Saudis help Hamas with rocket project By Amos Harel Hamas operatives in Saudi Arabia have been sending money, instructions and information to their colleagues in Gaza for their Kassam rocket-development project, the Shin Bet security service has revealed. The information was elicited from the liaison between the two groups who was recently arrested and interrogated. The Kassam, which was developed in order to provide a longer-range alternative to mortar shells, was fired in Gaza for the first time three months ago. Since then, Hamas has used it against Israeli settlements at least 10 times. It carries a one-kilogram warhead and has a range of 1.5-3 kilometers. However, Israel has learned that an improved version, with a range of up to five kilometers, is already in the advanced stages of development. Fired from the Gaza Strip, such a rocket could reach the southern suburbs of Ashkelon. Defense sources said that Hamas was trying to develop a deterrent threat against southern towns, similar to what Hezbollah achieved in the north with the use of its Katyusha rockets. The liaison with Saudi Arabia, Osama Zuhari Hamad Krika'a, is a 27-year-old resident of Gaza City. He was arrested at the Rafah border crossing on December 18, while en route to Saudi Arabia. Krika'a told his interrogators that he had joined Hamas last August and had been sent to Saudi Arabia for the first time in September. The cover for his trip was a pilgrimage to Mecca. While there, he delivered messages to local Hamas activists and was given money to bring back to Gaza. In December, Krika'a was asked to go to Saudi Arabia again, using the cover story of a medical problem that required special treatment. He was arrested, however, by the Shin Bet, which found large quantities of information about the Kassam project on his person. Krika'a told his interrogators that once the rocket was operational, instructions for making it would have been transferred to Hamas cells on the West Bank, so that cities in central Israel could also be threatened. The West Bank's arms industry is considered less sophisticated than that of Gaza. One of the Kassam's coordinators was Adnan al-Rul, who is also high on Israel's wanted list. Al-Rul is considered an expert in preparing weapons, including rockets, mortars and bombs. Another key figure is Nidal Frihat, who recruited Krika'a. Shin Bet officials said that Israel had asked the Palestinian Authority to arrest Frihat several times, but the PA had not done so. This is not the first time information and money has been smuggled to terrorist groups in the territories from Arab states. Hamas has frequently received assistance in upgrading its weapons from graduates of engineering colleges in these states. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. plans bombings in Somalia
-Caveat Lector- http://washingtontimes.com/national/20020103-78643224.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! U.S. plans bombings in Somalia By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES U.S. and allied military forces are stepping up aerial-reconnaissance flights over Somalia in preparation for raids against al Qaeda terrorist bases in the north African nation, according to U.S. intelligence officials. Intelligence reports also disclosed that some 100 al Qaeda terrorists were identified recently in Somalia. The terrorists were spotted as part of the Islamic rebel group there known as Al-Ittihad Al-Islam, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The Mogadishu-based group, known as AIAI, is linked to Somali warlord Hussein Mohammed Aideed and has close ties to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist group in Afghanistan. Somalia will likely be next, said one defense official familiar with defense planning. Meanwhile, at the Pentagon, Adm. John Stufflebeem, deputy director of operations for the Joint Staff, said U.S. forces are on the hunt for ousted Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, who is believed to be hiding in an area northwest of Kandahar. U.S. and allied forces also continued to search for bin Laden, the terrorist leader behind the September 11 attacks, whose last known location was the mountains south of Jalalabad. The reconnaissance flights over Somalia include aerial surveillance by U.S. EP-3, British Nimrod and French Atlantique aircraft, the officials said. The number of flights increased sharply last week, they said. The aircraft are helping identify targets for future bombing raids, such as terrorist training camps in the southern and northern parts of Somalia and port facilities, the official said. U.S. intelligence reports over the last several months have stated that weapons from terrorists in Afghanistan have been transported to Somalia on the Horn of Africa. The head of U.S. special operations commandos yesterday said bin Laden is not likely to be found alive in Tora Bora caves. I don't think he's up there. What we've brought up there [to search] was pretty significant, Col. John Mulholland said at a Special Forces base outside Afghanistan. I do think he's either dead, buried under some tonnage of rock, or he's out of there. In Kandahar, Afghan officials said they are negotiating for the surrender of Mullah Omar without fighting. We are still in contact with the people there to find a way to end this issue peacefully, an official working for intelligence chief Haji Gulalai told Reuters. Adm. Stufflebeem said the negotiations were not specifically directed at Mullah Omar. But I think it's a leap of faith if we believe that that is on the benefit or on the behalf of Mullah Omar himself, Adm. Stufflebeem said. These are Taliban forces that are looking to negotiate themselves out of a predicament with anti-Taliban forces. Mullah Omar used a lull in fighting around Kandahar last month, ostensibly for negotiations with anti-Taliban forces, to escape the city that had been surrounded. Mr. Gulalai is leading efforts to find Mullah Omar, who has been pinpointed to a location near Baghran, about 100 miles northwest of Kandahar. About 1,500 Taliban fighters are said to be protecting the militia leader. U.S. Special Forces troops are involved in a military operation to catch Mullah Omar, according to news agency reports from Afghanistan. Marines also are taking part. In Kabul, foreign military forces began arriving to participate in an international peacekeeping force. Today marks the arrival of the multinational [reconnaissance] party from all the troop-contributing nations that intend to place forces into the International Security Assistance Force, British Col. Richard Barrons said. Meanwhile, U.S. defense and intelligence officials said the military believes that a bombing raid last week killed Taliban intelligence chief Qari Ahmadullah. Marines in southern Afghanistan searched a former Taliban and al Qaeda compound in the region Tuesday, the U.S. Central Command said. The intelligence-gathering mission with some 200 Marines was one of several operations during the past several weeks, according to Maj. Brad Lowell, a spokesman for the command in Tampa, Fla. Victoria Clarke, the Pentagon's chief spokeswoman, said the United States expects the anti-Taliban forces to turn over Mullah Omar if he is captured. It's been made very clear that we expect to have control of him, she said. We've made it very, very clear consistently what we expect the disposition of these people should be, particularly the leadership. In a related development, 11 more al Qaeda prisoners were turned over to the United States and taken to a detention center on a U.S. base near Kandahar, the Pentagon said. The additional prisoners bring the total number
[CTRL] India says Kashmir rebels threaten to blow up Taj Mahal
-Caveat Lector- http://au.news.yahoo.com/020103/15/2abk.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India says Kashmir rebels threaten to blow up Taj Mahal Security around the 17th century marble monument had been tightened following an e-mail threat from the Lashkar-e-Taiba, a senior government official in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh where the Taj is located told Reuters. They have threatened to blow up the Taj Mahal, some other monuments and important government buildings in Lucknow, the official, who did not want to be identified, said. Lucknow is the capital of Uttar Pradesh. We have enhanced security in and around the Taj Mahal which was mentioned among Lashkar-e-Taiba's main targets in the e-mail sent to the chief minister, the official said. The Taj Mahal, India's monument to love in the northern city of Agra, is a huge draw for tourists from across the world. India has blamed the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad groups for the December 13 attack on its parliament in which 14 people, including five attackers, died. Both groups have denied involvement in the attacks. The official said Lashkar had also threatened to blow up a makeshift temple built at a disputed site in the ancient Indian town of Ayodhya where a 16th century mosque once stood. Hindu zealots tore down the Babri mosque in December 1992, triggering widespread religious riots in which some 3,000 people were killed. The site is sacred to both Hindus and Muslims. Security had already been tightened in and around the Ayodhya temple after a group of Hindu hardliners barged into the heavily-guarded complex in October. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. has small window of opportunity to prevent ultimate attack
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25837 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! WHISTLEBLOWER MAGAZINE AMERICA DEFENSELESS U.S. has small window of opportunity to prevent ultimate attack -- -- © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com January's edition of Whistleblower, WorldNetDaily's popular monthly print magazine, is a groundbreaking and shocking look at America's homeland security â or lack of it. As the government re-examines its scandalously loose immigration policy, increases its surveillance powers over its citizens, focuses on protecting the nation's nuclear and conventional power plants, investigates new ways to deal with possible bioweapon disease outbreaks and literally dozens of other key areas of concern since 9-11, there is one area â one threat that eclipses all others â that is being all but ignored. On Sept. 11, our nation's enemies attacked us using hijacked airliners, writes Brian T. Kennedy in the January issue. Next time, the vehicles of death and destruction might well be ballistic missiles armed with nuclear, chemical, or biological warheads. And let us be clear: The United States is defenseless against this mortal danger. Titled AMERICA DEFENSELESS, January's Whistleblower documents the disturbing story of how the U.S. government abandoned its former program of national defense of American citizens, and why both missile defenses and a comprehensive civil defense shelter system are needed now more than ever before. Here's the problem, states WND and Whistleblower Editor Joseph Farah. Our country is defenseless against the kinds of attacks we witnessed Sept. 11. But it is also defenseless against attacks that could prove to be far more lethal and far more devastating. How can America spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on defense, and still remain defenseless? The answer, as we show in vivid detail in the January issue of Whistleblower, says Farah, is that we as a nation have forgotten the meaning of defense. For example: President Bush clearly believes America needs a missile-defense system to protect civilians from intercontinental ballistic missiles launched by hostile foreign powers or terrorist organizations, which is why he recently took the historic step of announcing his intention of breaking with the ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile) Treaty that outlaws missile defenses. But all manner of experts also agree that missile defenses â even if and when America has them -- will never be 100 percent effective at stopping all deadly missiles. And they would be totally ineffective, of course, against the threat of terrorists detonating weapons of mass destruction here on our homeland. Therefore, as the January Whistleblower shows, the only true defense against that last eventuality, and the one vital missing component in any plan for missile defense, is a comprehensive civil defense system -- such as Russia, China, Switzerland and other countries already possess. The truth is: 1) There are currently thousands of nuclear weapons in the world; 2) They are coveted by dictators, jihad madmen and would-be superpowers; and 3) They are constantly under development (or their acquisition is being negotiated) by unstable regimes run by megalomaniacal leaders. If Americans are going to face the fact that evil people are striving mightily to obtain, and use on this country, the most devastating weapons possible -- and after Sept. 11, who could doubt their willingness to do so â we must also understand that their favorite, and ultimate, weapon is the nuclear bomb. Nothing else will do. The desire for nuclear weapons is irresistible to the Saddam Husseins and Osama bin Ladens of the world. They won't rest until they have them, and there are plenty of suppliers willing to accommodate that desire. In this explosive issue of Whistleblower, WND's editors and contributors take the position that if America is going to prepare to fight the last war â hijackings, anthrax spores â it better also prepare to fight and win the next war. Actually, the government believes in, and has prepared for, civil defense â but only for itself. Whistleblower magazine shows â through an interview with the nation's top whistleblower in the civil defense field â how the government is protecting itself against attacks with its own shelter system to protect government officials. But it is leaving you, the taxpayer, completely defenseless. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL
[CTRL] Pentagon Doubts Omar Will Surrender, al Qaeda regrouping in Afghanistan
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20020102/wl/afghanistan_122.html Pentagon Doubts Omar Will Surrender Photos AP Photo Audio/Video Marines Return to Kandahar After Mission (AP) Four Suspected Taliban Fighters Captured After Gun Battle (AP) : Are U.S. Operations Looking for Just bin Laden and Omar? - (Yahoo! Finance Vision) By LOURDES NAVARRO, Associated Press Writer KABUL, Afghanistan (news - web sites) (AP) - American bombs killed the Taliban's intelligence chief, the new Afghan government confirmed Wednesday, and a tribal commander reported that negotiations were under way for the surrender of the ousted Taliban supreme leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar. In Washington, Pentagon (news - web sites) officials said they doubted Omar was seeking to surrender. Some 1,000 to 1,500 Taliban fighters holding out near Baghran are trying to ``negotiate themselves out of a predicament,'' spokesman Rear Adm. John Stufflebeem told reporters. ``But I think it's a leap of faith if we believe that that is on the behalf of Mullah Omar himself.'' The United States had identified the intelligence chief, Qari Ahmadullah, as one of the Taliban leaders it was hunting. He was believed to be the highest-ranking Taliban official killed in the American-led campaign in Afghanistan. Ahmadullah, 40, was killed by U.S. bombings of Naka, in Paktia province, said Abdullah Tawheedi, a deputy intelligence minister for the interim government in Kabul. He was among 25 people killed in Naka on Dec. 27, when U.S. planes attacked a house where he was staying, the Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic Press reported. According to Raz Mohammed Khan Lunai, Tawheedi's representative in neighboring Ghazni province, Ahmadullah was hit by airstrikes while trying to flee on a motorcycle. Lunai said he witnessed Ahmadullah's Dec. 31 burial in a remote and sparsely populated area of Ghazni. In southern Afghanistan, a commander said military leaders have been negotiating with tribal elders from the Baghran region believed to be sheltering Mullah Omar. Jamal Khan, a commander for Haji Gulalai, intelligence chief in the southern city of Kandahar, told The Associated Press that negotiations have been held since Monday for the surrender of Omar, the second-most wanted man on the U.S. list of terrorist fugitives after Osama bin Laden (news - web sites). Bin Laden is the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Also Wednesday, the U.S. commander of the Joint Special Operations Task Force said bin Laden isn't likely to be found in the caves in the Tora Bora area of eastern Afghanistan. ``I don't think he's up there,'' Col. John Mulholland told reporters at a U.S. special forces forward operating base outside Afghanistan. ``I do think he's either dead, buried under some tonnage of rock or he's out of there.'' Other U.S. commanders said American military teams are still searching the Tora Bora caves for anything that might help dismantle bin Laden's al-Qaida network or locate bin Laden. Other anti-Taliban officials in Kandahar, who spoke only on condition of anonymity, told AP the tribal leaders had been given ``a clear message'' to turn over Omar or face airstrikes from U.S.-led forces. For the past few days, U.S. planes have dropped leaflets warning villagers not to shelter Taliban or al-Qaida members, residents said. Omar has been in hiding since the fall of Kandahar, the last main Taliban stronghold, a month ago. Baghran, a mountainous region north of the U.S. Marine base at Kandahar airport, is in the same general area where Marines and anti-Taliban soldiers launched a major military operation. Marines in full combat gear were dispatched in convoys and helicopters from the Kandahar base late Monday. Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah, who uses only one name, said his government did not know where Omar was. ``I think Mullah Omar is still hiding somewhere in Afghanistan. His whereabouts is not known neither to us nor to the coalition, I gather,'' he told ABC-TV's ``Good Morning America. ``But sooner or later he will be captured.'' In other developments: -A coalition of groups began a three-month, $8 million immunization program to vaccinate 9 million Afghan children against measles. The program is being carried out by the Ministry of Public Health, the U.N. Children's Fund, the World Health Organization (news - web sites) and other non-governmental organizations. -The U.S. Central Command confirmed that Marines searched a former Taliban and al-Qaida compound in southern Afghanistan's Helmand province on Tuesday. -Six major Islamic parties in Pakistan - including three pro-Taliban groups that organized protests against the U.S. campaign in Afghanistan - announced a new alliance aimed at winning more political offices. -The State Department said more than 115,000 tons of food, most of it from the United
[CTRL] hina and the Story Behind the Attack on America
-Caveat Lector- http://64.29.200.202/nms/showdetl.cfm?DID=6Product_ID=385CATID=9GroupID=12 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Seeds of Fire - China and the Story Behind the Attack on America Paperback - 600 pages On the eve of the first war in the 21st Century, one perplexing question remains: the role of China. The answer comes in what will be seen as one of the most important books of all time. It explains how China will use the crisis to launch itself as a new Super-Power - and become America's new major enemy. China by 2015 will have deployed tens to several tens of missiles with nuclear warheads targeted against the United States, mostly more-survivable land and sea mobile missiles. It will also have hundreds of shorter-range ballistic and cruise missiles for use in regional conflicts. Some of these shorter-range missiles will have nuclear warheads; most will be armed with conventional warheads. That prediction is from a CIA briefing paper to the Bush Administration. It is one of almost 100 pages of never-before published official documents in Seeds of Fire: China and the Story Behind the Attack on America, by Gordon Thomas. No one can afford to ignore this book! *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China uses computers from U.S. illegally; Nuclear facility simulates blasts
-Caveat Lector- From Drudge Report WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! China uses computers from U.S. illegally; Nuclear facility simulates blasts June 27, 2000 THE WASHINGTON TIMES Bill Gertz China's main nuclear weapons center is using U.S. supercomputers illegally to simulate warhead detonations without actual underground tests, The Washington Times has learned. U.S.-origin high-performance computers are being used at the Chinese Academy of Engineering Physics, the main nuclear weapons facility in Beijing. The facility is viewed by officials as China's version of Los Alamos National Laboratory, according to Clinton administration intelligence officials. The use of U.S. supercomputers - with computational speeds of billions of operations per second or faster - at the nuclear facility was outlined in a report classified top-secret and circulated among senior U.S. national security officials last month, said the officials who have seen it. They discussed some elements of the report on the condition of anonymity. Disclosure of the use of U.S. computers to help develop China's nuclear arms comes as the Clinton administration and Congress are considering new measures to loosen exports of American-made high-performance computers. An amendment to the current defense authorization bill President Clinton signed in February further relaxed export rules on advanced computers, allowing U.S. manufacturers to begin selling faster systems on Aug. 15. Officials did not identify the U.S. manufacturers of the systems or how they were obtained. Supercomputer sales have been restricted because they are crucial elements for designing and developing nuclear weapons, missiles and advanced conventional arms, according to defense officials. Additionally, the U.S. intelligence community reported last month that China is expanding a nuclear research facility at Mianyang. The so-called Science City there is working on both nuclear weapons and civilian energy research, the intelligence officials said. The reported supercomputer use at the nuclear facility is the third time China's government has been detected diverting U.S.-origin computers to defense facilities. In 1997, China agreed to return a Silicon Graphics supercomputer that was illegally diverted through a Hong Kong front company to a Chinese defense facility. A White House National Security Council spokesman declined to comment, citing a policy of not talking about intelligence matters. A U.S. intelligence official who was not familiar with the report said that it has been difficult for U.S. intelligence agencies to learn whether China is using complete U.S. advanced computers, or whether they are using a combination of U.S. components and homemade systems. According to Clinton administration officials, the president hopes to dramatically ease export control on high-powered computers. An amendment to the current defense authorization bill sponsored by Sen. Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, would make it easier for the president to change the export rules by reducing a congressional notification period from 180 days to 30 days. The argument of some officials who support the changes is that the systems are so widely available that controlling them is futile. Other officials who oppose the decontrol note that the United States produced the best and fastest supercomputers and that they should not be exported to countries that could use them against the United States, like China. A Senate national security aide said the administration failed completely to win Chinese government cooperation in checking on the end use of U.S. computers sold during the 1990s. That's why the Chinese know that they can use these computers with impunity, the aide said, noting that the relaxation of controls has been a disaster for U.S. national security. Stephen Bryen, a Pentagon export-control official during the Reagan administration, said he predicted in the early 1990s that U.S. supercomputers would be used by China for developing advanced nuclear weapons. That's been the great worry about transfers of supercomputers, he said. That they would be able to design a new generation of smaller warheads that can fit on smaller missiles or which can be MIRVed - multiple, independently targetable re-entry vehicles, or multiple warheads. Mr. Bryen said in an interview that the United States was able to radically reduce the number of actual underground nuclear tests needed for developing new warheads, from several hundred to about five. This is not good news for us because the Chinese can do a lot of this covertly, he said. It will be hard for us to know their capabilities, and we will have a difficult time understanding the threat. The report by the special House committee that investigated Chinese spying and technology acquisition stated that there is limited information on China's use of U.S. supercomputers. However, the report said that
[CTRL] Bush Eases Computer Exports
-Caveat Lector- http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-wh/2002/jan/03/010308008.html Bush sounding more like Clinton every day! No wonder he protected him! They are all on one side! The NWO side! - Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Today: January 03, 2002 at 7:10:12 PST Bush Eases Computer Exports WASHINGTON (AP) - The nation's most popular and powerful computer technology will be available to Russia, China, India and Pakistan because of a Bush administration decision to relax Cold War-era restrictions. The move, sought for months by the technology industry, was made official by President Bush on Wednesday. From his ranch in Crawford, Texas, he notified congressional leaders that he was raising the threshold for government approval of computer exports to Tier 3 nations, a category that also includes Israel. Since 1990, the export controls have been relaxed almost yearly to keep pace with advances in technology. Under the relaxed export standards, individual licenses and prior government review will be required only for the export of computers that perform more than 190,000 MTOPS, or millions of theoretical operations per second. High-end computers available at some retail computer stores as well as the Internet can provide that level of general processing power. The current threshold is 85,000 MTOPS, a performance standard that has become commonly available for years. These reforms are needed due to the rapid rate of technological change in the computer industry, White House Deputy Press Secretary Scott McClellan said. Single microprocessors available today - by mail order and the Internet - perform at more than 25 times the speed of supercomputers built in the early 1990s. Several major technology companies supported Bush's decision. The decision allows export controls to keep pace with rapid advancements in computing technology, said Jennifer Greeson, a spokeswoman for the Computer Coalition for Responsible Exports. She represents companies that include Dell, IBM, Intel, Unisys, Apple and Sun Microsystems. Intel's upcoming Itanium microprocessor can be exported because of the rule change. Several Apple and Dell laptop computers will also qualify for exportation. But the computer industry wants more change. Greeson's group has long argued that the government's unit for measuring computer processing power - the MTOP - is a poor way to judge whether technology is safe to export. They feel it is too general and doesn't reflect a computer's purpose. Some of the computers excluded in the past have had no potential to be used for modeling nuclear explosions or missile guidance systems, Greeson said. They have not posed any kind of security risk. The United States maintains its virtual embargo on computer exports to Iraq, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Cuba, Sudan and Syria. Bush's revised export rules implement the general policies of the Export Administration Act, legislation controlling commercial exports that could be put to military use. The act expired in 1990 and has since been kept alive through temporary extensions. By his action Wednesday, Bush also removed Latvia from the list of Tier 3 countries and reclassified it as Tier 1, putting Latvia in league with Western European and other U.S. allies whose computer imports from the United States require no prior government review. Both the House and the Senate have passed separate bills to end Cold War restrictions on exports of computers and other high-tech items. The differences between them are yet to be resolved, something that must be done before Congress can send the legislation to Bush for his signature. -- *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] India vows to use all military might
-Caveat Lector- http://in.news.yahoo.com/020102/107/1cj6v.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Thursday January 3, 1:04 AM India vows to use all military might By Penny MacRae and Robert Birsel ADVERTISEMENT NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Nuclear-armed India has said it is prepared to use its full military might to defend itself amid threats by Pakistan-based Islamic guerrilla groups to mount further attacks on the country. Nuclear rivals Pakistan and India have come to the brink of war following an assault last month on India's parliament which New Delhi blamed on Pakistan-based Kashmiri separatists. Whatever weapon is available, we will use it to defend ourselves, Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee said in his constituency of Lucknow in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh. And if because of that weapon the attacker is defeated...if he is killed, we should not be held responsible, said Vajpayee, who analysts say is under pressure to appear tough ahead of state elections in the politically crucial state of Uttar Pradesh. India carried out nuclear tests in 1998 which were followed by tit-for-tat blasts by Pakistan. It has adopted a no first use policy for its nuclear weapons, saying they would only be used in retaliation. But Pakistan, whose conventional forces are far inferior, has not adopted a similar policy. Following the parliament attack in which 14 people died, India demanded that Pakistan crack down on Muslim militants operating from its soil against India and said all options were open including war unless Islamabad acted. Earlier the country's Defence Minister George Fernandes told Reuters that Indian forces had completed their biggest-ever buildup but were not in battle positions. He held out hope that diplomacy could still avert a war with Pakistan. Efforts are being made to defuse the situation through diplomatic intervention, he said. URGING RESTRAINT All political parties in India are urging the government to use diplomacy as the first choice. But Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad, accused of the parliament attack, threatened fresh violence. Security was tightened at India's famed Taj Mahal monument after Indian officials they said they had received an e-mail from Lashkar-e-Taiba threatening to blow up the landmark to love. And Jaish-e-Mohammad said in a statement published in newspapers in the revolt-racked Kashmir region that they would carry out new attacks on Indian security forces. We are in possession of more deadly and sophisticated weapons and they will be fully used against the military and paramilitary forces of India in the coming days, the group said. Hours later a grenade exploded in Srinagar, Kashmir's main city, wounding 20 people including five policemen, police said. Elsewhere, in a space of 24 hours, 18 people were killed across strife-torn Kashmir, India's only Muslim-majority state. The border remained tense as Indian police said four Pakistani soldiers were killed when Indian and Pakistani troops fired mortars and heavy machineguns across the frontier. Pakistan has so far rounded up around 100 activists in response to India's demands to arrest militants, according to officials of the Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba. India has called the arrests a step in the right direction. But Jaish-e-Mohammad said it would seek to escape the net by shifting its offices into the Indian-controlled part of the Kashmir which covers two-thirds of the disputed region. Amid mounting international alarm about the spectre of war, U.S. President George W. Bush has weighed in with calls for restraint by both parties, telephoning Vajpayee and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf urging talks. British Prime Minister Tony Blair was due to arrive in the subcontinent later this week but his government played down talk he might act as a peace broker. NO BLAIR PEACE PLAN There is no Blair peace plan that the prime minister could or should take out of his pocket, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said in London. Independent political analyst Prem Shankar Jha said it could take just one more big guerrilla attack in India to prompt New Delhi to order its army into action. Several defence experts have said a conflict could end in the world's first nuclear exchange. An Indian official said Blair would meet Vajpayee on Sunday and travel to Pakistan on Monday for talks with Musharraf. Despite the crisis, both leaders plan to attend the Kathmandu summit of the seven-member South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation which begins on Friday. Plans for a meeting of the two men on the fringes of the summit have been scrapped since the crisis erupted. India's Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh and his Pakistani counterpart Abdul Sattar shook hands with smiling faces in Kathmandu at a pre-summit meeting, a conference spokesman said. But it was not clear whether this represented a
Re: [CTRL] CHRISTIAN IDENTITY IDEA INSTIGATED BY DR.JOHN DEE
In a message dated 1/3/02 4:28:52 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter J. Peters Do you have a web site address for Pastor Peters. I am researching the the CI movement in the U.S. Arnorld Murray from Gravite Ar. is another major player in this arena. Carl
Re: [CTRL] The Mosque to Commerce
-Caveat Lector- --- Peat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mosque to Commerce Bin Laden's special complaint with the World Trade Center. By Laurie Kerr SLATE Posted Friday, December 28, 2001, at 8:58 AM PT We all know the basic reasons why Osama Bin Laden chose to attack the World Trade Center, out of all the buildings in New York. this is pure bait... we all know that one cannot be on this list without knowing that this 'fact' is highly disputed... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
