Re: [darktable-user] A question about appimages
Hi Bruce, Bruce Williams schrieb am 07.02.24 um 05:12: I'm currently running an appimage of 4.7 and have noticed that although there are lenses available in the dropdown menu in the Lens Correction module, there are no cameras listed in the camera drop down menu. Is that because I'm running an appimage? I also use the appimage from the github page - but cannot reproduce what you see. I get the full list of cameras and also lenses - including the latest supertele-corrections I supplied last year. So Or is there some other reason that that would be happening? sorry not to be able to give helpful infos about that. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Need help compiling
Hi Bruce, beeing on Debian I also ran into troubles - noone could help me out so far in a way non-software-developers would understand. But day before yesterday a nice guy recommended the appimage - and this works! https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/nightly Bruce Williams schrieb am 19.12.23 um 07:12: Hi all, After a lengthy break from darktable due to moving house, I want to get back into running the dev version during the next cycle. I've cloned the repository to my local system, selected the branch I want, and attempted to build. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Module "rotate and perspective" / aspect ratio
Michael Fritze schrieb am 10.12.23 um 19:13: Hi, I use the "rotate and perspective" a lot and I only miss one feature. Maybe I did not find it, maybe there is another module to do this. When I use this module most times X/Y ratio does not look correct. E.g. squares are not squares and circles look like an ellipse. Is there a way to scale aspect ratio? Is the screen resolution of your desktop set correctly - that means does the setting correspond to your display? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Check
Dr. A. Krebs schrieb am 05.10.23 um 08:10: Dear: my PC crashed, I need to regain my eMail contacts. Hope this address works!? yes -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 4.4.1 split colors in Lighttable
what do you expect from a screenshot? Willy Williams schrieb am 21.07.23 um 18:42: I see it as corrupted both in lighttable and darkroom. Willy Williams * On 7/21/2023 at 12:35, GianLuca Sarto wrote: Must be the system because my notebook doesn't have that problem (synched db and xmp) On 21/07/23 17:50, GianLuca Sarto wrote: no, not corrupted, if you view it it's correct. Only in Lighttable. On 21/07/23 17:11, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * GianLuca Sarto [07-21-23 08:54]: Hello All, I run DT4.4.1 on Ubuntu 22.04 with Nvidia card and driver 525. Recently when I edit some pictures, the preview is splitted in colors. I enclose a screenshot. Is this a system problem, or is it DT? with information provided guessing bad copy, appears corrupted image can you provide access to image? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] darktable.org down?
There is also a ticket for this: https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg/issues/234#issuecomment-1636651082 Fingers crossed for those working on this (obviously not so easy) task ... Guillermo Rozas schrieb am 15.07.23 um 03:39: There is a hardware failure in the PIXLS.us server, which also houses darktable and other projects' webpages: https://mastodon.social/@patdavid/110709686054422379 On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 7:55 AM eric bruggeman wrote: Hi there, Yes, here also connection problems, even on pixls.us <http://pixls.us> connection refused. Maybe maintenance ongoing ?? Eric. Op 14/07/2023 om 12:48 schreef Bernhard: > Hi there, > > I get > Failed to connect to www.darktable.org <http://www.darktable.org> port 443: Connection refused > > anyone else also experiencing this? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] darktable.org down?
l0f...@tuta.io schrieb am 14.07.23 um 12:59: Hi, 14 juil. 2023, 12:54 de bruggeman.cou...@gmail.com: Yes, here also connection problems Same here as well. And even more globally: https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/darktable.org?proto=https=1 l0f4r0 nice page - thanks! -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
[darktable-user] darktable.org down?
Hi there, I get Failed to connect to www.darktable.org port 443: Connection refused anyone else also experiencing this? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 04.07.23 um 10:29:
On mardi 4 juillet 2023 08:15:36 CEST Bernhard wrote:
here is a list of what works and what not ...
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/graphics:darktable
(might be possible to get to work with a lot of hacks though - obviously
like William did)
William Ferguson schrieb am 04.07.23 um 08:05:
I build it
(...)
Perhaps not all that many hacks.
You'll need GCC-12 (or newer?), and tell your build system to use it, and you
may have to disable some optional parts.
e.g. on OpenSUSe I needed to tell the system to use GCC-12
("export CC=gcc-12; export CXX=g++-12),
and I removed openEXR (which I don't use, so removing it was easier than
trying to get the proper version...)
In case of such problems, have a look at the DefineOptions.cmake file, to see
what could be disabled.
Of course, if you can't get a proper version for a *required* component, it
gets more difficult...
Remco
depends on the viewpoint - aka base knowledge.
I tried to build master 2 months ago - and learned I have do upgrade my debian.
I did that - then I learned I have to do this and that recommended in pixls.us,
github and here.
I tried but never succeeded. But I'm not a SW developer. I'm happy if my
scripts (where I don't have the necessity to compile) work for me.
So something like
tell the system to use GCC-12
is difficult (ok, you give two commands here - but: as a user? as root? And:
what are the side-affects?)
So I decided to wait till "normal compile" in a "standard system" will work
again.
Btw: using the "Testing" binary in "Debian Bookworm" (manual download) seems to
work in the meantime as a workaround.
--
regards
Bernhard
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
here is a list of what works and what not ... https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/graphics:darktable (might be possible to get to work with a lot of hacks though - obviously like William did) William Ferguson schrieb am 04.07.23 um 08:05: I build it On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 12:00 AM Niranjan Rao wrote: On 7/3/23 19:48, Patrick Shanahan wrote: don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try it. warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 library is not backward compatible with 4.40. The question becomes where to get it from? OBS repository does not show it nor does Ubuntu updates. I don't expect Ubuntu updates to update as historically they haven't once stable release is released. But one could get binaries from OBS which seems not to be happening. Hence the question. Regards, Niranjan darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.4 on Debian 11.7, apt update issue
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 30.06.23 um 11:41: On vendredi 30 juin 2023 11:22:01 CEST Dieter Faulbaum wrote: Hello Michael, if you look here: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable/ you can see, there is no Debian_11 directory (anymore?) only a Debian_12 (and Debian_Testing and Debian_Unstable) directory. Maybe download.opensuse.org doesn't support a oldstable version (of Debian)? There *may* be another repository on OBS with such older distributions. Those will be maintained by individual users. However, it's quite possible no one maintaining such repositories uses older distributions, or it may become too difficult to get the code to compile (due to required versions of external libraries). E.g. latest darktable needs GCC12, which may not be available on Debian 11 (or Ubuntu 20.04) Remco (Even fairly recent distributions can run into problems: there's no build for OpenSuse LEAP 15.4 or 15.5, due to an issue with OpenEXR, I disabled openEXR for my private build, but that's not a good option for a repository, IMO) there even is not a build for current debian 12 stable ... https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=graphics:darktable=darktable only testing and sid ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Only 1 CPU (or better core) is used during export
Šarūnas schrieb am 04.05.23 um 14:40: On jeudi 4 mai 2023 08:11:41 CEST you wrote: Remco Viëtor schrieb am 04.05.23 um 07:27: On mercredi 3 mai 2023 22:39:06 CEST Bernhard wrote: Remco Viëtor schrieb am 03.05.23 um 17:57: (...) I see 4 cores running at 100% during export on my system ... Are you using openCL? no, not available on my machine since darktable does not support Intel GPU and with external GPU opencl always crashes after suspend-to-ram. In my experience, Intel GPUs + OpenCL + darktable work very well. It's on Debian/Ubuntu. All that needs to be installed is 'intel-opencl-icd'. No vendor repositories or kernel module compile necessary. yes and no, not in this case - as far as I understand: System: Kernel: 5.10.0-21-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Console: tty 1 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8Z77-M v: Rev 1.xx serial: UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2203 date: 12/18/2015 CPU: Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 L2 cache: 6 MiB flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 27281 Speed: 1669 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1669 2: 1718 3: 1641 4: 1701 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: ASUSTeK P8H77-I driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 Display: server: X.org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa tty: 80x50 Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console for root. There are requirements to be met: https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/intel-opencl-icd -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] dt 4.21 - missing support?
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 04.05.23 um 08:04: On jeudi 4 mai 2023 07:43:52 CEST Dr. A. Krebs wrote: Dear all: Is there support for NIKON D500 and NIKON D850? If handling with pics, the models are indicated as unknown? What do you mean by "handling with pics"? Do you see thumbnails in the lighttable view? Do they open in the darktoom? Does demosaicing work? Does lens correction work? According to https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/ those cameras are supported. Do I make a mistake? What to do to overcome the situation? You may check https://raw.pixls.us/ if perhaps a raw mode was missed that you are using? Alternatively, you could post one of the troublesome pictures on the pixls.us forum to check if others also have problems opening it. Remco I own(ed) both cameras - no problems, full support. Samples are available. If lenses are a problem: lensfun-update-data in terminal. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Only 1 CPU (or better core) is used during export
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 03.05.23 um 17:57: On mercredi 3 mai 2023 17:16:03 CEST Jörn Rink wrote: Hello, i have one question. I recognize, that in general dt used more than one core. But especially when i export images to jpeg, only one core is used, image AFTER image is exported. Is there a chance to corce dt to use more than one core? When i use high quality, the process also uses only one core and disc io is not very high. Is dt running better on more cores, when i compile it myself with g++ or gcc switches? Does dt use openMP? thanks and greetings Darktable is geared towards using the GPU whenever possible; the CPU is mostly used for "bookkeeping". While it might theoretically be possible to handle multiple images in parallel, it wouldn't get you much (if anything): treating several images in parallel on the GPU cannot be faster than treating them sequentially. In addition, you'd need to have the RAM to deal with multiple images. Remco I see 4 cores running at 100% during export on my system ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Suspended Support of camera models
Jörn Rink schrieb am 17.03.23 um 11:16: Am Fri, 17 Mar 2023 11:12:55 +0100 hat Remco Viëtor (Remco Viëtor) folgendes geschrieben: Hi Remco, thx for your answer, what means lense without cap? without the plastic in front of the lense? greets ja, der Text dort auf pixls.us lautet: Objektiv auf der Kamera montiert, Deckel abgenommen Bild ist scharf und richtig belichtet Ausrichtung im Querformat Es soll ein Motiv zu erkennen sein. Gegenlichtblende wäre (lens) hood. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] How to repair file path
Just do this https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images Marco DE BOOIJ schrieb am 15.01.23 um 17:07: I suppose that you did not move them with darktable? You must remove those 'skulls' and thumbnails from the library and then add the folders that you moved from the new location. It is always better to use the move option from within darktable. Kind regards, Marco Op 15/01/2023 om 16:51 schreef Hieke van Hoogdalem: Hi all, I’m experiencing problems with the file path. I moved some folders of photos I’d already worked on. Some photos show the pixelated scull, others show thumbnails but aren’t accessible for further editing. I can’t find how to restore/repair the file paths. When clicking on the image to work on it, it says: “image (name) is currently unavailable”. Please see the screenshot below for the scull and folder names with strike through. How can I resolve this? Google wasn’t of any help. >>> Can’t send screenshot – it extended the allowed size. <<< Kind regards, Hieke van Hoogdalem darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Question re: database snapshots
you are sure that the settings in "Storage" are really the same? https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/preferences-settings/storage/#database -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Marc Cabuy schrieb am 11.12.22 um 18:18: Hello Willy, I have relocated the database within the hierarchy of the pictures folder. I back it up through 2 methods : 1. With the file history of Win 10; 2. With a regular scheduled backup of all my data. If you like I'll document this in more detail and send/share it. Marc. Op zo 11 dec. 2022 17:38 schreef Willy Williams : I have darktable installed on two Windows 10 machines, with virtually identical configurations on both, yet the "A" machine does not create the database snapshots called for in the configuration while the "B" machine does create the backups as configured. As mentioned, both use the configuration as shown below. Anybody have a clue as to whether I missed something somewhere that could be obstructing the creation of snapshots on the "A" machine? Willy Williams -- "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a thousand stories ... stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way above any description." - Sameh Elsayed -- darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Moving DT between OS and computers?
xmp are a per-image-copy of the database. So they serve as a simple backup and also make portability possible => import photos on another PC. Not included in the xmps are information that is related to more than one image - e. g. if you group images in lighttable. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Bengt Falke schrieb am 13.11.22 um 20:49: Thank you for your tips! I still don't understand what is in the database? I am a bit worried of loosing all the tags and hope they are in the XMP-files? Regards/Bengt Den 2022-11-12 kl. 21:26, skrev Bernhard: Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 12.11.22 um 20:11: * Bengt Falke [11-12-22 14:05]: I need to move DT and all images from my wifes Macbook pro to a Linux Mint computer. I understand that most are in the XMP files but some info are in the DB. Where can I find info on what is where? How should I go about moving all to a new computer and a new OS? Are there instructions somewhere? specific, I am not aware, but ... install dt on the new computer copy the images and accompanying xmp files to new computer copy the macbook equivalent "/home/user/.config/darktable" to the new computer, /home//.config/darktable import the relocated image files on the new computer and except for dt needing to recreate the cache files, you should be good to go are retain all edits and configurations. gud luk, I write this again and again ... Copy the archive and the profile like Patrick suggests. But then: do not import, just use this cool feature of darktable to adjust the paths to your archive: https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images <https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images>updating the folder path of moved images darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Moving DT between OS and computers?
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 12.11.22 um 20:11: * Bengt Falke [11-12-22 14:05]: I need to move DT and all images from my wifes Macbook pro to a Linux Mint computer. I understand that most are in the XMP files but some info are in the DB. Where can I find info on what is where? How should I go about moving all to a new computer and a new OS? Are there instructions somewhere? specific, I am not aware, but ... install dt on the new computer copy the images and accompanying xmp files to new computer copy the macbook equivalent "/home/user/.config/darktable" to the new computer, /home//.config/darktable import the relocated image files on the new computer and except for dt needing to recreate the cache files, you should be good to go are retain all edits and configurations. gud luk, I write this again and again ... Copy the archive and the profile like Patrick suggests. But then: do not import, just use this cool feature of darktable to adjust the paths to your archive: https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images <https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collections/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images>updating the folder path of moved images -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Building dt
Jean-Luc schrieb am 06.11.22 um 00:22: Le 04/11/2022 à 21:58, Bernhard a écrit : Bernhard schrieb am 04.11.22 um 21:54: Jean-Luc schrieb am 04.11.22 um 17:49: Hello, Not exactly that. In fact, the maintainer of the repo which I installed from seems not active anymore - or at least only once a year. So I did not get the summer update so far. I would like to build dt myself, but not see it fall into my home directory, as it always happens when I do it. So, my question : how can I manage to install it as if it were done frome repo ? I searched and could find with /wereis/ that it currently uses the following directories : darktable: /usr/bin/darktable /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/darktable /usr/libexec/darktable /usr/share/darktable /usr/share/man/man1/darktable.1.gz You know these instructions? https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable#building It tells you to do this mkdir build/ cd build/ cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/darktable/ .. make sudo make install with the prefix being the directory to install to ... This works for me although I don't know much about all these things. btw. I use `checkinstall` instead of `make install` to build a package (.deb in my case) and then use the package manager (dpkg in Debian) to install/uninstall the package. Hello Bernhard, So I might have done something weird when I tried this. However, I notice that then the maintainer of the repository from which I installed did follow the instructions, since dt appears in /usr/bin/darktable instead of /opt/darktable/. At this point, what would you advise me to do ? Backup my config and * unsinstall dt, erase everything related to it in the directories above and build as described in github, or * use cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/bin/darktable .. What distro do you use? You write the maintainer of the repo which I installed from seems not active anymore There should be a package for most common distros here: https://software.opensuse.org/package/darktable I use /opt since I do like to try darktable master every now and then and want to make sure this does not interfere with production darktable stable version (which is installed to /usr/bin by package manager from repo above). If you compile and this is the only version you want to use ... I'd think nothing speaks against the procedure you suggested. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Building dt
Bernhard schrieb am 04.11.22 um 21:54: Jean-Luc schrieb am 04.11.22 um 17:49: Hello, Not exactly that. In fact, the maintainer of the repo which I installed from seems not active anymore - or at least only once a year. So I did not get the summer update so far. I would like to build dt myself, but not see it fall into my home directory, as it always happens when I do it. So, my question : how can I manage to install it as if it were done frome repo ? I searched and could find with /wereis/ that it currently uses the following directories : darktable: /usr/bin/darktable /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/darktable /usr/libexec/darktable /usr/share/darktable /usr/share/man/man1/darktable.1.gz You know these instructions? https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable#building It tells you to do this mkdir build/ cd build/ cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/darktable/ .. make sudo make install with the prefix being the directory to install to ... This works for me although I don't know much about all these things. btw. I use `checkinstall` instead of `make install` to build a package (.deb in my case) and then use the package manager (dpkg in Debian) to install/uninstall the package. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Building dt
Jean-Luc schrieb am 04.11.22 um 17:49: Hello, Not exactly that. In fact, the maintainer of the repo which I installed from seems not active anymore - or at least only once a year. So I did not get the summer update so far. I would like to build dt myself, but not see it fall into my home directory, as it always happens when I do it. So, my question : how can I manage to install it as if it were done frome repo ? I searched and could find with /wereis/ that it currently uses the following directories : darktable: /usr/bin/darktable /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/darktable /usr/libexec/darktable /usr/share/darktable /usr/share/man/man1/darktable.1.gz Thanks in advance, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org You know these instructions? https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable#building It tells you to do this mkdir build/ cd build/ cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/darktable/ .. make sudo make install with the prefix being the directory to install to ... This works for me although I don't know much about all these things. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 19.10.22 um 21:30: * Bernhard [10-19-22 13:17]: Bruce Guenter schrieb am 18.10.22 um 23:53: Now, the database has recorded the images as being there, but the edits are only present in the XMP files, so the edits appear to be lost. They can be recovered by reimporting the files, which will reload the XMP sidecars, but it's somewhat surprising to need an extra step to recover a database which, hypothetically, should be at least as durable as the sidecars. This*extra step* should be presented automatically - at least, when you turn this on: look for updated xmp files on startup Scan all XMP files on startup and check if any have been updated in the meantime by some other software. If updated XMP files are found, a menu is opened for the user to choose which of the XMP files to reload (replacing darktable’s database entries by the XMP file contents) and which of the XMP to overwrite from darktable’s database. Activating this option also causes darktable to check for text sidecar files that have been added after import time (default off). https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/preferences-settings/storage/ -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or I am sure that a patch would be welcomed. your move. I don't understand ... Why a patch? On my machines at least this works fine like documented. If this is not working on the machine of the TO ... then there must far more significant problems. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Updating the Database
Bruce Guenter schrieb am 18.10.22 um 23:53: Now, the database has recorded the images as being there, but the edits are only present in the XMP files, so the edits appear to be lost. They can be recovered by reimporting the files, which will reload the XMP sidecars, but it's somewhat surprising to need an extra step to recover a database which, hypothetically, should be at least as durable as the sidecars. This *extra step* should be presented automatically - at least, when you turn this on: look for updated xmp files on startup Scan all XMP files on startup and check if any have been updated in the meantime by some other software. If updated XMP files are found, a menu is opened for the user to choose which of the XMP files to reload (replacing darktable’s database entries by the XMP file contents) and which of the XMP to overwrite from darktable’s database. Activating this option also causes darktable to check for text sidecar files that have been added after import time (default off). https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/preferences-settings/storage/ -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnail overlay text
David Vincent-Jones schrieb am 28.07.22 um 23:53: I am actually working with one of my systems with the r version where the text information feature appears to be 'broken' and the 'theme' is limited to a single option that is difficult to read. Probably my fault for using this version! Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 29.07.22 um 03:23: no, it is still there, beside the filemanager icon more space lost for no reason @ Patrick Are you shure Aurelien did not eliminate this out of his fork? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 19.07.22 um 07:46: Since Mike is trying to open a fuji ARW camera file I am not sure why GIMP is trying to use a Nikon plugin for the task. I am on windows and using the latest version of GIMP and DT 4.1 and I can open the ARW files fine via GIMP. Maybe a fresh install of GIMP may help. That might be a sledgehammer approach, but the program is so easy to download and install that it would not take much effort. since Mike is *not* specific of what error occurs I tried to verify we speak of the same thing - hence the screenshot. So I have to take what I have - Nikon, Panasonic, Olympus ... Reinstall ... ok, Windows approach ... I am out here ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 19.07.22 um 01:10: Hi Mike, I presume you are the Mike I have communicated with before from Florida? If I want to work an image in GIMP and Darktable I use the open feature in GIMP and being a RAW file it opens the image in DT. I do the necessary edits in DT and then just shutdown DT and the image is moved automatically across to GIMP as a 32 bit floating point file. I then edit the image in GIMP and export as normal. The other way I use the two programs together is to edit in DT first, export as a 16 bit tiff and then open the 16 bit tiff in GIMP. I appreciate that these may not be the solutions you are looking for but it works well for my needs. On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 04:09, Michael wrote: I can't start a raw file in Gimp via darktable and was wondering if any one has solved/has this problem? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: I think it's like attached Mike is speaking of?? File - open - [Dialog to find folder] - [select image] - ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 18.07.22 um 22:42: * Bernhard [07-18-22 16:30]: Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 18.07.22 um 20:43: * Michael [07-18-22 14:08]: I can't start a raw file in Gimp via darktable and was wondering if any one has solved/has this problem? works fine for me on openSUSE Tumbleweed but I am using darktable master release-4.1.0-72-g7e8d11ecc in Debian Buster and Gimp GIMP 2.10.8 the Nikon plugin returns an error. Did not see this til now as I don't use that - just tested because of this thread. Same with Panasonic raw plugin ... fwiw: statements provide little assistance w/o distro, program version numbers and computer environments, kinda like buying a ford transmission for an gm engine and wondering why it will not bolt up. Debian Buster sounds like a distro Gimp 2.10.8 sounds like a version ok, darktable 4.0 was missing but is current. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 18.07.22 um 20:43: * Michael [07-18-22 14:08]: I can't start a raw file in Gimp via darktable and was wondering if any one has solved/has this problem? works fine for me on openSUSE Tumbleweed but I am using darktable master release-4.1.0-72-g7e8d11ecc in Debian Buster and Gimp GIMP 2.10.8 the Nikon plugin returns an error. Did not see this til now as I don't use that - just tested because of this thread. Same with Panasonic raw plugin ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Is it possible to configure Information in Metadata Dialoque
frieder schrieb am 05.07.22 um 16:36: Hallo, There is the metadata-Dialoque, the image information toolbox, in light table and in darkroom. It displays lots of information not relevant for me (image size etc) And some Exif-Tags I would like to see are not present. Is it possible to confiqure which metadata is displayed? If yes- how? or is there already a tutorial? thanks, a lot, Fred. PS: I mean this what is explained here: https://youtu.be/mwiOEG-AJLE?list=PLlYWvzmJQTrRq7JrYdD7k3-8-v-uHnhK_=2652 The manual tells you more about this: https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/image-information/ You can deselect information you do not want - use the hamburger menu top right in the module. I think those are the most relevant data needed. Wondering what else of the thousands of fields the devs should include - based on what reasons: https://exiv2.org/metadata.html Could be something like a lottery ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] D500 - missing camera?
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 21.06.22 um 15:48: * Dr. A. Krebs [06-21-22 09:22]: Dear all: When I work on pics from D500, this camera model is not recognized as known- red marked!? ! D500 is a well established professional camera since years. ! Searching the web and darktable blog/forum, I do not succeed, unfortunately. ? What can I do? Is there a solution? ? Can I use another camera profile usable within darktable? Grateful for help- I also have and frequently use a D500 and have experienced no difficulties developing the pictures with darktable on openSUSE linux. and at https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/, the D500 is recognized as supported with WB Presets and Noise Profile but no Custom Matrix. your difficulty is undoubtedly local. same experience here with thousands of images. What is the problem? Red-marked? Lens-correction module? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Recovering xmp data from Exported jpg files
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Re: [darktable-user] Modules and History
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 28.02.22 um 01:46: * Andrew Greig [02-27-22 19:05]: Hi, I have been cruising the Fine Manual, looking for info on how to set a new default value in a module, so that one only needs to turn the module on. Alternatively, how do I define a preset to load on import, in other words to add one more module to the starting History stack? open the configuration (gear wheel) go to presets, open desired module and make a preset do define all pertinent information or you might open the hamburger menu of that module in darkroom, save the preset and choose "automatically use on matching images" (or something like that in english) and select things like camera type, ISO, whatsoever ... and darktable will add that module on import. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] two copies of each image showing
most likely the best explanation. In this case all files in this folder should have 2 xmps and in lighttable the two displayed versions should have different version numbers (5th line from the top in the Image Information module). August Schwerdfeger schrieb am 19.02.22 um 09:03: You probably clicked "Duplicate" or pressed Ctrl+D with all the images in that folder selected. -- August Schwerdfeger aug...@schwerdfeger.name On 2/18/22 23:07, Terry Pinfold wrote: HI all, I have done something stupid with DT and I have a folder on my computer containing a single file for each image but in Lighttable and the filmstrip in darkroom I have two copies of each shown. Any suggestions on what I have done wrong in handling these files? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.6.1 Lens correction Panasonic Cameras Missing
Stefan Schmidt schrieb am 17.02.22 um 22:08: Hi I have just updated from dt 3.2.1. to 3.6.1 I use ubuntu 20.04 and I have installed dt 3.6.1. via the ubuntu software center via snap latest/candidate In the 3.6.1. version my two cameras (Panasonic GX80 (also called GX85) and Panasonic G9) cannot be found in the lens correction module. There is a large list of Panasonic Cameras but not those two. Is there anything necessary to update that list? Best Stefan maybe this is a problem with snap? Perhaps you may use this repo: https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=darktable=graphics%3Adarktable -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Go to folder from image
if I understand this correctly this is what you want: https://github.com/darktable-org/lua-scripts/blob/master/contrib/OpenInExplorer.lua see also https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/development/de/module-reference/utility-modules/lighttable/lua-scripts-installer/ -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Christian Birzer schrieb am 28.01.22 um 22:16: Hi all, Is there any way to open the folder in the collections panel where a image is located? I mean something like right click on the thumbnail in lighttable and "go to folder" which opens the folder view in collections and get me to the right folder. My image workflow and organization is very folder centric (have hierarchical folders for years and dates etc.). When I select images e.g. from tags, I would then be able to jump to the folder containing a special image. I know that I can double click on the filmroll in image information to jump to the filmroll. But I didn't get used to filmrolls by now because its a flat list without my folder hierarchy. The folder view gives me the option to go up one level and see all images from all subfolders at once. BTW: Has anyone an idea why dt doesn't use a main menu and context menues on the thumbnails? I mean, the buttons in the "selected images" and "history stack" etc. panels could also be located in a context menu...? And a couple of other things could be located in a main menu... Just wondering... Thanks in advance! Christian -- Christian Birzer christ...@christianbirzer.de www.ChristianBirzer.de www.500px.com/ChristianBirzer www.flickr.com/ChristianBirzer www.facebook.com/Birzer.Christian www.instagram.com/birzer.christian darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to add more black
Bernhard schrieb am 25.01.22 um 17:37: You might use the slider "luminance" in "color balance RGB" in the "4HSL" Tab https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/3.8/en/module-reference/processing-modules/color-balance-rgb/#4-ways-tab and there is also https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/3.8/de/module-reference/processing-modules/rgb-levels/ -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to add more black
You might use the slider "luminance" in "color balance RGB" in the "4HSL" Tab
https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/3.8/en/module-reference/processing-modules/color-balance-rgb/#4-ways-tab
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Hieke van Hoogdalem schrieb am 25.01.22 um 17:26:
Haha… it says explicitly: "You should never use it to use more density in
blacks". It doesn't give the/an alternative though… If anybody has ideas, I'd be
glad to hear/read them.
Hartelijke groet,
Hieke van Hoogdalem
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Tnx! That was what I was looking for. I always work with the clipping
indicators on – tnx!
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You can use the [exposure] module to do so, with the [black level correction]
slider. Use gingerly. I would use it with {clipping indication} toggled on, and
stop increasing when the blacks in the subject* start to indicate clipping.
I.e., that area is within 2% (by default, but adjustable), of being clipped, or
already clipped.
*What constitutes, “subject” of your image is entirely up to you.
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 07:58, Hieke van Hoogdalem
wrote:
Hmmm… I'm really looking for only some extra blacks.
Hartelijke groet,
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Tnx! Will try.
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Hi,
I would increase the black point in filmic.
Cheers
Michael
Am 25. Januar 2022 13:05:21 MEZ schrieb Hieke van Hoogdalem
:
Hi there,
In the manual I couldn't find how to add more black to an image or how
to increase the blacks a little bit. It's possible in Photoshop Elements and in
Lightroom so I guess it should be possible here too, but I can't find how. I
know about local contrast, but that's not what I mean.
I hope you can help me out.
Kind regards,
Hieke van Hoogdalem
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Re: [darktable-user] module layouts preset question
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 22.01.22 um 17:41: * Ludger Bolmerg [01-22-22 10:57]: Hi I am using DT 3.8.0 on FreeBSD. In the modules layout preset "workflow: scene-referred" I am missing the "diffuse or sharpen" module. Is this because I upgraded from DT 3.6.1 or is there another reason why the module has not been added to the preset. I know I could create my own preset but I hoped I could live with a predefined one. the "predefined" one(s) are exactly that, predefined. create your one "menu" and add the modules you prefer, or copy one of the predefined and add modules you prefer. the second being the easiest one: Find the predefined setup you prefer, duplicate that and give it your own name and modify from there ... by adding that module you mentioned (which by the way I like more every time I use it ...) and you're done ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Timestamp oddity
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 22.01.22 um 07:49: On samedi 22 janvier 2022 07:28:57 CET Top Rock Photography wrote: IF one's card is 32GB or less, it will not store time zone data, and that may cause problems. If one does not have local time being kept correctly by the OS, that may cause problems. If one's camera does not save local time correctly, that may cause problems. Two different things going on here: We have the file timestamps as handled by the different OSs. Those can change for different reasons, mostly access and file modification (but there's the "touch" command). We also have metadata timestamps, generated by the camera. Most of these shouldn't change. And afaik, Exif metadata couldn't store timezone as a standard tag before 2016 (makernote is a different issue. I have a file from my D700 at the time and EXIF says Date/Time Original 2010:09:20 09:04:24 Then I look at a file of my D850 EXIF data - this one says Date/Time Original 2022:01:19 10:45:06 and for the D850 there is an entry: Offset Time Original +00:00 but this one isn't available in my D700 from 2010. It still offers a menu option for time zone - as you said, this is *only* found in the maker notes: Time Zone +01:00 So yes, different cameras from different "ages" have different capabilities ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Timestamp oddity
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 20.01.22 um 14:13: I think the only solution for now would be to set your camera to UTC (which has disadvantages as well). That's what I am doing for years now. Imagine you are travelling along the border Spain/Portugal or Greece/Macedonia/Albania and go back and forth - ok, 2 time zones. But if you do that in spring or autumn in the time of switch from standard time to daylight saving time or back you end up with total mess. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] OT, Video store and catalog
I think that Chris refers to DAM (digital asset management) Rapid Photo Downloader <http://www.damonlynch.net/rapid/> has one job: to move your pictures from card and camera onto your hard drives. It can rename, create backups, and sort photos into folders as you download. So it's for downloading, renaming, backup during download etc., but not storing, editing and searching for metadata. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Jean-Luc CECCOLI schrieb am 18.01.22 um 17:17: Hello, I think Rapid Photo Downloader is well-suited for the purpose. Rgrds, J.-Luc *envoyé :* 18 janvier 2022 à 01:55 *de :* Chris Albertson *à :* darktable forum *objet :* [darktable-user] OT, Video store and catalog This is slightly off-topic, but maybe people here have some opinions. I also shoot videos with my cameras. Darktable is good for organizing still images, but many times I have video files mixed in. What Linux software to use for storing and searching for video? When it comes time to edit and assemble, Blackmagic's DaVinci Resolve is hard to beat. But I'm looking for a way to store, label, and organize the files, like what Darktable does for still images. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT can't access files on external hdd with special software
no, not entirely. Recursive means the current directory plus all subfolders, sub-sub-folders, sub-sub-sub-folders etc. and so on ... Terry Pinfold schrieb am 13.01.22 um 23:21: Recursive directories means sub-folders. I am not sure why the term recursive directory was chosen over the common term of sub-folders. I hope you get your problem sorted. On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 08:27, wrote: Tnx guys... I don’t know what ‘recursive directory’ means, but I already tried to tick and untick the box. It didn’t help. The software that I bought should make it possible to read the ntfs-formatted disk (wich is possible outside of dt). I don’t know why dt doesn’t support that too. Hartelijke groet, Hieke van Hoogdalem *Van:* Terry Pinfold *Verzonden:* donderdag 13 januari 2022 21:41 *Aan:* Jean-Luc CECCOLI *CC:* darktable forum *Onderwerp:* Re: [darktable-user] DT can't access files on external hdd with special software On the DT import function make sure recursive directory is selected. Probably not your issue but I mention just in case On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, 7:35 am Jean-Luc CECCOLI, wrote: Hello Hieke, Sorry, it took me a while to understand - If I even did it - but it reminds me a similar problem with a HD being shared between a w7 machine and a Ubuntu 16 one. Each time the disk was read on the windows machine, I could not read it anymore on my linux one, and had to re-format it. It took me long - very lng - to understand that the culprits were the docking stations : they were not as compatible as they claimed to be, as they behaved differently depending the OS they were used on. Maybe could this be the same for you ? Rgrds, J.-Luc *envoyé :*12 janvier 2022 à 14:17 *de :* Hieke van Hoogdalem *à :* darktable-user@lists.darktable.org *objet :* [darktable-user] DT can't access files on external hdd with special software Hi there, A few weeks ago we had a conversation about darktable on my Macbook Air (M1) not being able to see (let alone import) photos from my external HDD that I had created on my Windows laptop. The tip was: format it. The HDD is ntfs formatted so I bought and downloaded this license for ease of use and quickness: https://shop.paragon-software.com/277/?scope=checkout=226074=false=paragon2018 <https://shop.paragon-software.com/277/?scope=checkout=226074=false=paragon2018>. The installation seems to be done correctly (I got this on screen message saying something like ‘All you have to do now is restart your laptop and enjoy your ntfs files’). What else can I do to make this work? I didn’t download the latest version yet. Will it work on M1 Macs? The installation notes say that Intel is required – can that be it? I can hardly believe but I just needed to ask. Kind regards, Hieke van Hoogdalem signature_1223586119 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org = -- darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Moving Images
David Vincent-Jones schrieb am 12.01.22 um 20:03: I have a sub-folder that contains a single 'test' image. At the end of the test period I am trying to move this single image up into the parent-folder. This should of course delete the sub-folder later. The single image fails to move despite all of the confirmations looking OK. Can anybody else see such a problem? dt=3.9.0+89~gd1db50c361/Manjaro/Arch/XFCE please check (in file manager) if the image is already in the parent folder (by some circumstance). If so moving it from the subfolder will fail ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Raw only?
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 11.01.22 um 23:21: It is really interesting when you have a class of twelve students and you end up with twelve different interpretations of the same image file. yes - that's also what I am experiencing over there: https://discuss.pixls.us/tags/c/processing/7/play_raw when looking what different users are doing ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark
besides that: I have a constellation here (text in German, but the images may speak for themselves): https://www.bilddateien.de/blog/2021-06-06-raw-oder-jpeg.html#belichtungskorrektur 38 <https://www.bilddateien.de/blog/2021-06-06-raw-oder-jpeg.html#belichtungskorrektur> The first image of that blue tit is the in-camera-jpg accompanied by it’s histogramm. You see it’s ETTR and the brightest parts of white parts of the face are really white. This is with exposure correction of -1EV When I import the same image, but the RAW into darktable, I get the second histogram and have room to improvement of the image. This clearly shows that “in the field” it’s often hard to do things right in terms of correct exposure of the RAW only based on the information you have out of the JPEG. BTW: same camera -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Terry Pinfold schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:39: Hi Bertwin, the scene referred workflow applies a counter adjustment to your in-camera exposure value adjustment. If you look in the exposure module you will see a box ticked by default for ' Compensate camera exposure'. This may be the cause of your issue. I use exposure bracketing most of the time and DT will open all my bracketed images looking the same rather than dark or light or normal. I am not sure of the logic of this default behaviour as I usually want to keep the exposure compensation from the camera. If this problem doesn't solve the issue just move the exposure slider along a little to get the look you want. DT takes a bit of learning but is worth the effort to learn. I prefer it so much over other programs such as LR. Let me know how you get along with this issue. -- *From:* bwh vanBeest *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 January 2022 8:12 AM *To:* darktable-user@lists.darktable.org *Subject:* [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark Hi, When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a big unexposed part on the highlights. I am pretty sure though that when I took the pictures the exposure is about right (according to the camera histogram). The camera-generated jpg is also ok. What can be the cause of this and what can I do about it? Kind Regards, Bertwim darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org This email is confidential, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone outside the intended recipient organisation is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of the University of Tasmania, unless clearly intended otherwise. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:50: * Bernhard [01-10-22 16:30]: bwh vanBeest schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:12: When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a big unexposed part on the highlights. I am pretty sure though that when I took the pictures the exposure is about right (according to the camera histogram). The camera-generated jpg is also ok. What can be the cause of this and what can I do about it? The histogramm always is created from the jpg, not the RAW (nef in your case). So the deviation between the RAW shown in darktable and the JPG depends on your camera settings (picture controls: https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/d850/en/13_image_enhancement_01.html) It's recommended to use FL to minimize deviation between RAW and JPG ... what is "FL". remember that almost all of the "picture control" camera menu items are not in the raw image but in the generated jpg only. Just have a look at the manual page I referenced to ... And yes, but we are disussing deviations between image AND histogramm between JPG and RAW!!! -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark
bwh vanBeest schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:12: When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a big unexposed part on the highlights. I am pretty sure though that when I took the pictures the exposure is about right (according to the camera histogram). The camera-generated jpg is also ok. What can be the cause of this and what can I do about it? The histogramm always is created from the jpg, not the RAW (nef in your case). So the deviation between the RAW shown in darktable and the JPG depends on your camera settings (picture controls: https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/d850/en/13_image_enhancement_01.html) It's recommended to use FL to minimize deviation between RAW and JPG ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 03.01.22 um 22:27: Then later when I get a new version of DT or my skills improve over the years, I might have another attempt at editing the RAW file in the hope of getting a better image. For this I usually create a duplicate in darkroom and reset it's history to start from scratch. Since the 3.x Versions I frequently do this with older photos I need for a given purpose today and always find the new result more appealing, especially the color shades are more subtle and not like before some kind of sledgehammer Velvia. And this way I only have a few more kB of storage for another XMP. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released
The database and xmps might be corrupted when reverting to an earlier version. That's why darktable creates a backup of the database with the first start of a new version. You might use this backup when reverting. Terry Pinfold schrieb am 03.01.22 um 22:39: My understanding is images edited in a later version of darktable would normally not be correctly edited in a previous version of DT if someone chose to revert to an earlier version. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released
all packages are up to date. Guess I need to wait a while. F darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org This email is confidential, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone outside the intended recipient organisation is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of the University of Tasmania, unless clearly intended otherwise. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Broken images after upgrade to 3.8.0
Niranjan Rao schrieb am 31.12.21 um 23:53: I don't have camera anymore to contribute but do have images which were supported at one time. This I don't understand: Looks as if this camera provides 4.000 x 3.000 Pixel (4:3) 2.816 x 2.112 Pixel (4:3) 2.048 x 1.536 Pixel (4:3) So simply look into your archive and find some landscape image without persons with these resolutions and upload to raw.pixls.us ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Broken images after upgrade to 3.8.0
or fooling around command line parameters if that's going to help to debug the issue. Happy to provide the sample if needed at sharable location. Regards, Niranjan darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Broken images after upgrade to 3.8.0
and for this there is the raw.pixls.us database to provide freely available samples of each and any file as long as the owner of the camera cooperates and provides samples. There is no way the developers buy each and any camera ... Btw: DNG is *not* a *free* format. It's owned by Adobe. Martin Straeten schrieb am 31.12.21 um 20:10: darktable will be able to edit these files if they ever were supported ;) Am 31.12.2021 um 20:06 schrieb Chris Albertson : This is a general note, something for developers and photographers to consider... What will be the fate of digital images stored in any non-destructive RAW image database like Darktable or even the old Apple Aperture or Adobe Lightroom? When my grandmother passed away we found 100+ year old photos in her house. There is no way on earth any software will support the RAW file format of 100-year-old cameras. When my yet-to-be-born grandkids sort through my house, my old Nikon NEF files will be useless and unreadable because no then-current software will know how to decode files from my late-20th century Nikon dSLR. Someplace I still have documents archived in MS-DOS Wordstar format, kind of the same issue, basically, the plan of keeping images in a camera-specific raw format is doomed. It is not if the plan will fail but only a matter of time. The solution is easy, convert to DMG format or even TIFF. Today it is in theory possible to support most obsolete cameras but this will get harder in years to come and impossible to 20 or 50 years. This post below about the old camera photos is the tip of a big iceberg that is coming. Testing and a large library of obsolete files is a way to slow the process but is unsustainable over a decades-long timescale. On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:25 PM Niranjan Rao mailto:nhr...@gmail.com>> wrote: On ubuntu 20.04.3, darktable 3.8.0 I upgraded day before yesterday and discovered that support for Panasonic Lumix seems to be broken. These are old images and have been sitting in database through various version upgrades. Now when I try to open a file with extension RW2 (Model as reported by lighttable image information is DMC-G2, darkroom is not able to open it. Lightroom shows me the error message about please check if camera model that produced image is supported Images were already supported as they are tagged in my database and showed up in the search based on tags. I've not seen this problem for any other images I have. What broke and more importantly how should I fix it? I don't mind getting my hands dirty on terminal or writing shellscripts or fooling around command line parameters if that's going to help to debug the issue. Happy to provide the sample if needed at sharable location. Regards, Niranjan darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org = darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: split of Crop and Rotate to "Crop", and, "Rotate and Perspective" in 3.8
Technically it's understandable that this is separated and grouped as is. Neither crop nor flip/rotate do any recalculation of pixel values, they just reorder them (rotate/flip) or throw some of them away (crop). So as is: rotate freely (any angle) is technically the same as perspective correction: you have to take every pixel and it's surrounding and recalculate new values with rounding errors and interpolations and ... Perhaps you may configure quick access group to your needs ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Willy Williams schrieb am 30.12.21 um 14:06: I, too, find the separation of crop, rotate and perspective rather difficult to justify. From my perspective of doing architectural and real estate photography, I'd prefer to have them all in a single module, not separated by retouch and exposure in the v3.0 RAW module order. Willy Williams On 12/30/2021 at 07:36, Archie Macintosh wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 11:26, Andrew Greig wrote: I gave this a red hot go out of respect for the developers, but I miss having Crop and rotate in the one module because I have to perform those two operations in almost every shot... I have to agree with Andrew: crop and rotate are operations I routinely use together – I almost never bother with perspective – so I, too, would prefer them to be together in a single module. (I can, of course, see that this preference is related to the kind of photography I do, and may not suit everyone.) (And this observation does not detract from my immense respect for, and gratitude to, the developers, for all their amazing work.) darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] The new import process
do you move the images to your RAID from within darktable? Then the images or folders striked out should be accessible again by just connecting your computer to that RAID again. To remove them you might also change to "folder" in the "collections" module and select your RAID. Then select all images in lighttable and use "selected images" in the right sidepanel and "remove". Andrew Greig schrieb am 03.12.21 um 23:47: Hi all, I really preferred the import process in DT 3.4, maybe it is just my workflow that needs a change. After any use of my camera I upload the images to my computer as soon as possible, to my Working folder on a solid state drive for speed. After I have finished processing all of my images I Export images to my Google Drive and, having done that I move the RAW files to storage on my RAID drive. And then, the next time I want to access a folder of RAW images I have to navigate to my RAID drive and import them again, which I expect to do. What I have found out today is that I have a lot of collections with lines like an editing "strike out" so I thought that I would see if I could remove one, and then I received a warning dialogue, asking me if I wanted to remove the collection from DT and fully delete them from the computer, or not. The whole thing felt fraught with danger. Obviously I elected not to delete from the computer, but because my RAW files were now in a different place I guess that DT would have no idea where they were to delete in any case. Also I miss the file manager search field in DT, it was so easy to find all the shoots with a model very quickly. My subjective view is that DT file management is not as friendly as it was. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] 3 different questions
hieke.vanhoogda...@gmail.com schrieb am 02.12.21 um 13:46: @all: I’m still looking for an option that helps me show a selection. Example: I have a selection of 20 photos in – say – my category ‘Architecture’. All photos are good enough, the have enough stars or the right color given to them. Now I want to minimize the selection to a series of 12. Therefore I want to try several combinations without having to tag (and detag) them all the time. I know that Lightroom has the option to select images and press some button to see the selection. That makes it easy to quickly decide what works. I’d really like something like this. I could really use that! I can imagine what you mean: In one or the other video I have already seen that there is something like "pick" in Lightroom, so the opposite of "reject". https://laurashoe.com/2014/02/07/how-to-use-pick-and-reject-flags-to-sort-through-a-photo-shoot/ That doesn't seem to exist in darktable, actually. I would choose a color marker for that purpose instead, and filter by that. Unlike lightroom, darktable can assign multiple color markers to the same image. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] CR3 support integrated
Hi Martin, Pascal, thanks for clarification. So I assume this will not work in current debian unless there will be backports available some time in the future: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bullseye=names=exiv2 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/exiv2 Not that I need this personally but I wanted to have this seen before the release is out and possibly questions come in from my webpage. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Martin Straeten schrieb am 16.11.21 um 07:20: additionally: you need an exiv2 > 0.27.4 built with BMFF support (at least for 0.27.4 it’s by default without BMFF support) mingw64 package has BMFF support built in macports doesn‘t, but the portfile can be patched. Am 15.11.2021 um 23:22 schrieb Pascal Obry : Hi Bernhard, Thanks, I tried this with an image from raw.pixls.us but the file is not shown in the import dialog (it is shown when I rename it to .CR2 though) You also need a recent exiv2 version, minimum is 0.27.4. I have tested with 0.27.5. Cheers, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] RE: My raw files show black and white in lighttable, but not in darkroom
Willy Williams schrieb am 08.11.21 um 14:57: RAW files are all stored in full color. You create the monochrome JPGs in the editing process. not really: https://uk.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/LEICA-M-MONOCHROM?/switchlanguage/to/corposite_eng_gb/135193 -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] My raw files show black and white in lighttable, but not in darkroom
Guillermo Rozas schrieb am 08.11.21 um 14:53: If you want to recover that JPG rendition from your camera (and you're not saving RAW+JPG), exiftool can extract the embedded JPG from the RAW file. exactly. Only drawback might be that Fuji does not embed full resolution. e. g. X-T30 RAF 14bit compressed RAW: 6384 x 4182 JPG-from-RAW: 4416 x 2944 -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] It gets worse
Andrew Greig schrieb am 29.10.21 um 14:26: Hi, Upon upgrading to 3.6 I have now discovered that DT has renamed all of the images in the folder I opened today with 20211029- 1104.CR2. I have never set that up, I only ever run on the camera images numbers, how else do I get to keep track of the frames so that I can prepare the next prefix in my numbering scheme. The only numbers that matter are from the camera, I can only guess that these renamed images are copied somewhere that DT knows, but why would I want to have two versions of my RAW files. I am shell shocked and bewildered, why is DT fcking with my Data storage? I am really distressed, this has been a bad day for me. Did you use "copy and import" in lighttable? regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Compile darktable
Michael schrieb am 14.10.21 um 17:22: I was wanting to compile darktable for my operating system (arch). I know I could pacman it but where's the fun in that? Any ways is there any place with directions to doing this? see this one: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable#building -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Adding a browser
this one? see attached Terry Pinfold schrieb am 08.10.21 um 01:51: Hi Patrick, thanks for that great suggestion. The tagging module in lighttable shows my keywords and by right clicking on the tag I can 'go to tag collection'. This is precisely what I wanted. Terry On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 10:33, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Terry Pinfold [10-07-21 17:56]: Number one for me is DT's abilty to edit. Any ability to search for and find my images through lighttable is a bonus. But this should never be at the cost of making DT a bloated program. I wonder if it would be possible to improve the sort by funtionality of DT to include keywords. I am not a developer so I don't understand what is easy and practical to impliment. Terry -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Adding a browser
Anton Aylward schrieb am 07.10.21 um 16:01: Dolphin can renderer images and the embedded GIFs in raw images I find what I want and click on it and (because that's the way I've set up Dolphin to handle raw images) it gets imported into darktable and ... you may not think Darktable light-weight, but it is. If it was also a browser, file manager etc etc etc then it would not be lightweight. but that's what darktable already has incorporated ... with regard to images and their metadata, of course ... You already have a browser. Actually, on Linux, I have a choice of a number of them :-) Personally, I'd look to thinning down Darktable not bloating it. Sounds like you would like to get rid of that lighttable view? :( -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] Adding a browser
Hi Graham, sorry, but this is - for technical reasons - not correct - besides that darktable is very capable in both tasks already: managing images as well as editing. But: for technical reasons with non-destructive imaging you never see what you get in any other application than the one you are editing the images. I already mentioned this paper <https://web.archive.org/web/20140912051214/http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/pdfs/non_destructive_imaging.pdf> for more background. That's why I - and obviously many others, including the devs who thankfully spend many efforts in also making the image management more powerful with each release - see darktable as a program for both tasks. And hey ... I like to see e. g. the final crop, the correct exposure, the removed spots and all those things done on the edited image in the image overview (call it lighttable or browser or whatever else) when I have to select one of those images from my archive for a given purpose ... Any other app will always show either the embedded camera jpg (like e. g. geeqie) or some raw calculation of the original RAW ... not what I want. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Graham White schrieb am 07.10.21 um 16:10: Hi. I think there may be some cultural background that you're not aware of, which is this. Linux (and Unix before that) was developed on the philosophy of "one task one program" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy ), according to which programs were designed to do one thing and to do it well: coordination between tasks was handled by interaction between programs. This is the way that your operating system works (it's not just Linux: any modern operating system works that way), and the benefits of it are that it avoids reinventing the wheel, that it improves performance (because single-task programs tend to be smaller and faster than big bloated ones, and so on). Now with photo editing, there are two tasks. One of them is maintaining a catalogue of images: I use Shotwell for that. Shotwell's quite old, but it's reliable and fast. When I want to edit a photo, I get Shotwell to open it in Darktable. Darktable only does one thing, which is to edit images: it's not an image catalogue. And (being an old and wizened Linux user) I think things should remain that way. Graham On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 8:40 PM Lorenzo Fontanella < fontanellalore...@gmail.com> wrote: Good evening Pascal I speak about my needs of course, but I know many photographers who think the same and are in the same situation. I have a RAW + JPEG archive of about 500 000 files (video excluded), consisting of files from various Nikon, Fujifilm Sigma (*) cameras. In my current state, it is impossible to import the whole archive, I tried several times but even excluding the various errors in the import phase, I ended up with an incredibly slow software that did not allow me to navigate easily in the imported database and even to develop quickly, it had slowed down a lot. Now I use it by making partial imports of only the folders that interest me, but even then, it is not easy. Other software like RawTherapee or Capture one that integrates a mix between catalog and sessions (browser), allow me to be much more "agile" in the process of selection, search and pre-assessment of the image, because I'm not forced every time to import the entire folder to view and perform a pre-development on the file to decide which to use. Legitimate question Why don't you use this software since you speak so highly of it? Because even though DarkTable is conceived from a programming point of view and not from a photographic point of view (I'm talking about the ordering of the modules), even though it only works with a catalog and forces me to import what I want to work on, even though the learning curve is not linear IT'S BADLY POWERFUL, and it does a flawless job where other emblazoned software fails miserably. (*) You claim that it is designed to develop RAW files, I assure you that I have used it to work on Foveon files developed on Sigma Photo Pro and exported to jpeg or even on files saved (by mistake) in jpeg from Sigma cameras and I assure you that it has done a wonderful job. In short, it works and hell it works fantastically. I understand that there is never enough time to spend on development and you have to streamline. But I urge you not to dismiss the option just because you don't see it as useful, I assure you it would make a difference in terms of adoption of the software by a great many users who now find it inconvenient due to the import factor. I would also be willing to the slower generation of the previews, remember that I use Sigma Photo Pro, the slowness has never been a problem, if it serves to obtain a superlative result. Greetings Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) Lorenzo Fontanella http://www.lorenzofontanella.it/ Il giorno mer 6 ott
Re: [darktable-user] Adding a browser
Hi Lorenzo, Lorenzo Fontanella schrieb am 07.10.21 um 11:12: Hi Terry Hi Community Interesting and already known suggestions, however they are not feasible. If you try to import even half of the archive I'm talking about, 250,000 files, you will immediately realize that it would become unmanageable and slow. That's as long as the import process takes. But - apart from migration to a new tool - nobody really imports 500.000 images in one take. Normally you import all or part of the photos as soon as the shooting ends - no more than a few hundred photos at one time. And - of course - over the years the archive will grow and finally you reach your 500.000 images at one point. So I'd suggest to import step by step / project by project or year by year depending how your archive is organised (I think it is). I don't use Lightroom. Currently I use Xnview for a first evaluation and when I have decided what to develop, I import it into DT. BUT... I have more and more often the need to perform an overall preliminary development and then to choose the final ones for the finished development. And with DarkTable, this dynamic that requires importing every time, lengthens the work. What you are requesting is something like Lightzone <http://lightzoneproject.org/> is doing things. They simply have a file browser that shows previews. To do this in a reasonable time they do not use standard xmp files for storing their non-destructive edits (I always recommend reading this first: https://web.archive.org/web/20140912051214/http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/pdfs/non_destructive_imaging.pdf). Rather they use non-standard jpg images as sidecars. They contain the latest preview as well as the edits of the RAW file. This of course expands the necessary disk space as for every edited RAW there is an additional JPG for the sake of having a preview ... don't know if this is the better way to do things ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Lorenzo Fontanella https://www.lorenzofontanella.it/ Il gio 7 ott 2021, 03:40 Terry Pinfold ha scritto: Hi Lorenzo, I certainly understand your desire to have a catlog system like Lightroom, however, the main focus and strength of DT is its editing capabilities. Maybe it is best to find a FOOS browser to organise and catalog your images and then when the images are located in the browers then use the open with function to open the image in DT for editing. I too would love a browser like Lightroom's in DT, but not at the expense of speed or performance. Maybe the people in this group would be able to share which FOOS browsers are available and would be best to use for your needs. cheers Terry -- *From:* Bernhard *Sent:* Thursday, 7 October 2021 4:28 AM *To:* darktable-user@lists.darktable.org < darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>; darktable-...@lists.darktable.org < darktable-...@lists.darktable.org> *Subject:* Re: [darktable-user] Adding a browser I think this would have many drawbacks ... Why not simply use some sort of browser already there in the operating system and then 'right-click' - 'open in darktable' to edit the photo you like to work with? Import has many funktions: - make images indexable: search by EXIF-Values as well as Metadata => database is absolute must for adequate response times - database stores edits (so they are double-saved) - all imported images are also kept as previews in the cache folder and kept in sync with the database. Believe me - you do not want to wait for edited images been shown in a preview or some sort of lighttable if every single picture must be calculated every single time you open that folder ... So for me the current concept makes sense. just my 2ct -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Lorenzo Fontanella schrieb am 06.10.21 um 17:58: Evening, I submit to you some considerations: DarkTable originated along the lines of Lightroom but with the purpose of remaining open source and making improvements over the same software from Adobe. Today the 2 softwares are almost alternative to each other. Using DT, I realize (and I'm always amazed) of some functions that other softwares dream of, I speak for example of the perspective correction module or of the color search table module that offers the possibility of selection in absolute values. However, this function is missing in DT as well as in Lightroom and for both of them, in my opinion, it is a reason to slow down the adoption of this software solution. I'm obviously talking about the lack of a browser integrated to the software that allows you to simply browse the folders of the HDD and open the images you want to edit. In this way you are bound to the import that if it must be done on many files at a time, slows down the whole process and discourages. I suggest adding a browser that allows you to browse the folders of the whole archive without having to import them. Once you
Re: [darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] Adding a browser
ternaryd schrieb am 07.10.21 um 04:51: So maybe, in a moment of contemplation, some darktable developer may consider to attach some hierarchical tree to that endless list, and if this is already there if I understand your vision correctly - see attached -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Adding a browser
I think this would have many drawbacks ... Why not simply use some sort of browser already there in the operating system and then 'right-click' - 'open in darktable' to edit the photo you like to work with? Import has many funktions: - make images indexable: search by EXIF-Values as well as Metadata => database is absolute must for adequate response times - database stores edits (so they are double-saved) - all imported images are also kept as previews in the cache folder and kept in sync with the database. Believe me - you do not want to wait for edited images been shown in a preview or some sort of lighttable if every single picture must be calculated every single time you open that folder ... So for me the current concept makes sense. just my 2ct -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Lorenzo Fontanella schrieb am 06.10.21 um 17:58: Evening, I submit to you some considerations: DarkTable originated along the lines of Lightroom but with the purpose of remaining open source and making improvements over the same software from Adobe. Today the 2 softwares are almost alternative to each other. Using DT, I realize (and I'm always amazed) of some functions that other softwares dream of, I speak for example of the perspective correction module or of the color search table module that offers the possibility of selection in absolute values. However, this function is missing in DT as well as in Lightroom and for both of them, in my opinion, it is a reason to slow down the adoption of this software solution. I'm obviously talking about the lack of a browser integrated to the software that allows you to simply browse the folders of the HDD and open the images you want to edit. In this way you are bound to the import that if it must be done on many files at a time, slows down the whole process and discourages. I suggest adding a browser that allows you to browse the folders of the whole archive without having to import them. Once you have started to edit the file, obviously the development queue could be saved on sidecar files, if the modified images have not been imported. What do you think. For me it would be a double option that would facilitate the adoption of this great software by those who do not want to be forced to work with databases and forced imports. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) Lorenzo Fontanella darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I need help updating my Nikon P1000 firmware
if people would answer to the list everyone could contribute ... As I already advised the "update" should be placed to the root dir. Question here is: What is the "update"? - the binary as with all DSLRs I know from Nikon? - the unpacked folder as the P1000 description suggests? regards -B- RE Blue schrieb am 27.09.21 um 08:27: I would check again to make sure that you are actually copying the update to the root directory and not a sub-directory, perhaps reformat the card in the camera before trying again. ____ From: Bernhard Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 2:06 PM To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] I need help updating my Nikon P1000 firmware Chris Albertson schrieb am 25.09.21 um 20:34: Really, unpack with no Windows? The file is either an ".exe" or ".dmg". Can Linux unpack those? The new firmware fixed the following problem: "*Fixed an issue that caused pairing between the camera and devices running the SnapBridge app under iOS 14 or iPadOS 14 to fail.*" So if the OP needs this fix, he is maybe running on Apple hardware. You are right in the that OP has failed to explain the problem. *To the OP: * Why not post a screen capture showing the problem? When the error occurs capture the screen. If you don't know how, just literally take a picture of the screen with a camera or your phone. When capturing a screen, many times video works best as it shows the full sequence of events. On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:07 AM Patrick Shanahan wrote: ... I unpack the executable on linux before storing it on the memory card. What puzzles me is the following: For my DSLR the instructions tell me: 1. Run *F-D500-V130W.exe* to extract the following file to a folder named “D500Update”: • D500_0130.bin (the camera firmware) 2. Using a card slot or card reader, copy “D500_0130.bin” to a memory card that has been formatted in the camera. https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/383.html - and that's been that way for more than a decade of DSLRs now, while for that P1000 the instructions say: 1. Run *F-P1000-V14W.exe* to extract the firmware to a sub-folder in the new folder. The resulting file and folder hierarchy is shown below: • firmware (the sub-folder containing the firmware) • firmware.bin (the camera firmware, located in the “firmware” folder) 2. Using a card slot or card reader, copy the “firmware” folder to a memory card that has been formatted in the camera. Note: Be sure to copy the “firmware” folder to the root (top-most) directory of the memory card. The camera will not recognize the new firmware if it is placed in a folder under the root directory. https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/387.html Perhaps it's an issue of folder vs. no folder? Just an idea ... ... simply guessed due to the lack of info from the thread opener. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I need help updating my Nikon P1000 firmware
It's the top level of the folder structure of the memory card - see attached -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Ed Wugalter schrieb am 25.09.21 um 21:41: "The camera will not recognize the new firmware if it is placed in a folder under the root directory." That's the part I'm not sure of. How do I know it's the root directory ? On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bernhard wrote: Chris Albertson schrieb am 25.09.21 um 20:34: Really, unpack with no Windows? The file is either an ".exe" or ".dmg". Can Linux unpack those? The new firmware fixed the following problem: "*Fixed an issue that caused pairing between the camera and devices running the SnapBridge app under iOS 14 or iPadOS 14 to fail.*" So if the OP needs this fix, he is maybe running on Apple hardware. You are right in the that OP has failed to explain the problem. *To the OP: * Why not post a screen capture showing the problem? When the error occurs capture the screen. If you don't know how, just literally take a picture of the screen with a camera or your phone. When capturing a screen, many times video works best as it shows the full sequence of events. On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:07 AM Patrick Shanahan wrote: ... I unpack the executable on linux before storing it on the memory card. What puzzles me is the following: For my DSLR the instructions tell me: 1. Run *F-D500-V130W.exe* to extract the following file to a folder named “D500Update”: • D500_0130.bin (the camera firmware) 2. Using a card slot or card reader, copy “D500_0130.bin” to a memory card that has been formatted in the camera. https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/383.html - and that's been that way for more than a decade of DSLRs now, while for that P1000 the instructions say: 1. Run *F-P1000-V14W.exe* to extract the firmware to a sub-folder in the new folder. The resulting file and folder hierarchy is shown below: • firmware (the sub-folder containing the firmware) • firmware.bin (the camera firmware, located in the “firmware” folder) 2. Using a card slot or card reader, copy the “firmware” folder to a memory card that has been formatted in the camera. Note: Be sure to copy the “firmware” folder to the root (top-most) directory of the memory card. The camera will not recognize the new firmware if it is placed in a folder under the root directory. https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/387.html Perhaps it's an issue of folder vs. no folder? Just an idea ... ... simply guessed due to the lack of info from the thread opener. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I need help updating my Nikon P1000 firmware
Chris Albertson schrieb am 25.09.21 um 20:34: Really, unpack with no Windows? The file is either an ".exe" or ".dmg". Can Linux unpack those? The new firmware fixed the following problem: "*Fixed an issue that caused pairing between the camera and devices running the SnapBridge app under iOS 14 or iPadOS 14 to fail.*" So if the OP needs this fix, he is maybe running on Apple hardware. You are right in the that OP has failed to explain the problem. *To the OP: * Why not post a screen capture showing the problem? When the error occurs capture the screen. If you don't know how, just literally take a picture of the screen with a camera or your phone. When capturing a screen, many times video works best as it shows the full sequence of events. On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:07 AM Patrick Shanahan wrote: ... I unpack the executable on linux before storing it on the memory card. What puzzles me is the following: For my DSLR the instructions tell me: 1. Run *F-D500-V130W.exe* to extract the following file to a folder named “D500Update”: • D500_0130.bin (the camera firmware) 2. Using a card slot or card reader, copy “D500_0130.bin” to a memory card that has been formatted in the camera. https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/383.html - and that's been that way for more than a decade of DSLRs now, while for that P1000 the instructions say: 1. Run *F-P1000-V14W.exe* to extract the firmware to a sub-folder in the new folder. The resulting file and folder hierarchy is shown below: • firmware (the sub-folder containing the firmware) • firmware.bin (the camera firmware, located in the “firmware” folder) 2. Using a card slot or card reader, copy the “firmware” folder to a memory card that has been formatted in the camera. Note: Be sure to copy the “firmware” folder to the root (top-most) directory of the memory card. The camera will not recognize the new firmware if it is placed in a folder under the root directory. https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/387.html Perhaps it's an issue of folder vs. no folder? Just an idea ... ... simply guessed due to the lack of info from the thread opener. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Filter pictures taken with flash
I checked the darktable database and could not find an entry of that EXIF field in the database itself - that means that there is no native way to do this in dt directly. So I assume that Bill as "master of lua" had something in mind like a lua-script working e. g. with exiftool to filter the required images and perhaps show them in lighttable (?). But that's nothing I can help any further with any details. Michael Jacobs schrieb am 23.09.21 um 14:07: Anyone a hint on this ? Michael On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 18:28, William Ferguson wrote: The short answer is yes. The long answer is I have to remember how to do it :). Bill On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 3:23 AM Michael Jacobs wrote: Hi, Is there anyway to select pictures taken with flash ? I can't find any option in metadata or capture details. Brgds, Michael -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6.1 released
Thanks, Pascal.
works now.
I did not know I have to
$ git submodule update
again after doing
$ git checkout tags/release-3.6.1
as master was able to compile before.
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regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
Pascal Obry schrieb am 18.09.21 um 10:43:
Maybe just:
$ gît submodule update
?
Pascal.
Le sam. 18 sept. 2021 à 09:28, Bernhard a
écrit :
thanks for the release!
But as there is no binary in OBS I tried to compile myself and get with
make:
[ 34%] Building CXX object
bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_exr.cc.o
In file included from /usr/include/OpenEXR/ImathBox.h:65,
from /usr/include/OpenEXR/ImfFrameBuffer.h:51,
from
/home/{username}/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/common/imageio_exr.cc:32:
/usr/include/OpenEXR/ImathVec.h:228:34: error: ISO C++17 does not allow
dynamic exception specifications
const Vec2 & normalizeExc () throw (IEX_NAMESPACE::MathExc);
^
compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
make[2]: *** [bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/build.make:1850:
bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_exr.cc.o] Fehler 1
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:953:
bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/all] Fehler 2
make: *** [Makefile:152: all] Fehler 2
anyone any idea?
System:
Host: Rechner Kernel: 4.19.0-17-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 8.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.8 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
--
regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
Pascal Obry schrieb am 15.09.21 um 14:10:
We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.1!
The github release is here:
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.1
As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are:
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.1.tar.xz
a2bfc7c103b824945457a9bfed9e52f007fa1d030f9dbcb3ff0327851be42d14
darktable-3.6.1.tar.xz
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.1.5.dmg
0fa0cd49971fdf76f690be095600250adc2317f969c7135f035bc7b5f0ee
darktable-3.6.1.5.dmg
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.1.exe
34b4c1748ffe7ac66c3c79ad474b86a7aaa01ba296f8cd21929fe8024ebf3262
darktable-3.6.1-win64.exe
When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in
mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more.
You are strongly advised to take a backup first.
Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting
the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this post](
https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on
how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the *full*
raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
## Bug Fixes
- Fix module expand on quick access panel when enabling/disabling module.
- Fix a possible crash in color calibration module.
- Fix an inconsistency between the CPU & GPU path in color calibration
module.
- Fix possible issue in OpenCL Bradford non-linear code in color
calibration which leads to wrong color rendering.
- Fix Windows paths handling and encoding.
- Fix possible issue in exiv2 when trying to write empty strings.
- Fix by-scale button in export module.
- Fix crash when renaming a drawn mask.
- Minor UI fix in duplicate module.
- Fix possible wrong rendering of the color picker
tooltip. (workaround for a possible Gtk issue).
- Fix filename variable used when importing new pictures.
- Fix noise profile for RICOH GR III.
- Fix some memory leaks.
## RawSpeed changes
## Camera support, compared to 3.6
### Base Support
- Leica C-Lux (3:2)
- Nikon D6 (14bit-compressed, 14bit-uncompressed, 12bit-compressed,
12bit-uncompressed)
- Nikon Z fc (14bit-compressed, 12bit-compressed)
- Sony ILCE-7RM3A
- Sony ILCE-7RM4A
### Noise Profiles
- Ricoh GR III
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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6.1 released
thanks for the release!
But as there is no binary in OBS I tried to compile myself and get with
make:
[ 34%] Building CXX object
bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_exr.cc.o
In file included from /usr/include/OpenEXR/ImathBox.h:65,
from /usr/include/OpenEXR/ImfFrameBuffer.h:51,
from
/home/{username}/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/common/imageio_exr.cc:32:
/usr/include/OpenEXR/ImathVec.h:228:34: error: ISO C++17 does not allow
dynamic exception specifications
const Vec2 & normalizeExc () throw (IEX_NAMESPACE::MathExc);
^
compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
make[2]: *** [bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/build.make:1850:
bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_exr.cc.o] Fehler 1
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:953:
bin/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/all] Fehler 2
make: *** [Makefile:152: all] Fehler 2
anyone any idea?
System:
Host: Rechner Kernel: 4.19.0-17-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 8.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.8 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
--
regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
Pascal Obry schrieb am 15.09.21 um 14:10:
We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.1!
The github release is here:
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.1
As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are:
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.1.tar.xz
a2bfc7c103b824945457a9bfed9e52f007fa1d030f9dbcb3ff0327851be42d14
darktable-3.6.1.tar.xz
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.1.5.dmg
0fa0cd49971fdf76f690be095600250adc2317f969c7135f035bc7b5f0ee
darktable-3.6.1.5.dmg
$ sha256sum darktable-3.6.1.exe
34b4c1748ffe7ac66c3c79ad474b86a7aaa01ba296f8cd21929fe8024ebf3262
darktable-3.6.1-win64.exe
When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in
mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new
library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more.
You are strongly advised to take a backup first.
Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting the raw
file format for your camera, *please* read [this
post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on
how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the *full* raw
sample set for your camera under CC0 license!
## Bug Fixes
- Fix module expand on quick access panel when enabling/disabling module.
- Fix a possible crash in color calibration module.
- Fix an inconsistency between the CPU & GPU path in color calibration module.
- Fix possible issue in OpenCL Bradford non-linear code in color
calibration which leads to wrong color rendering.
- Fix Windows paths handling and encoding.
- Fix possible issue in exiv2 when trying to write empty strings.
- Fix by-scale button in export module.
- Fix crash when renaming a drawn mask.
- Minor UI fix in duplicate module.
- Fix possible wrong rendering of the color picker
tooltip. (workaround for a possible Gtk issue).
- Fix filename variable used when importing new pictures.
- Fix noise profile for RICOH GR III.
- Fix some memory leaks.
## RawSpeed changes
## Camera support, compared to 3.6
### Base Support
- Leica C-Lux (3:2)
- Nikon D6 (14bit-compressed, 14bit-uncompressed, 12bit-compressed,
12bit-uncompressed)
- Nikon Z fc (14bit-compressed, 12bit-compressed)
- Sony ILCE-7RM3A
- Sony ILCE-7RM4A
### Noise Profiles
- Ricoh GR III
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Re: [darktable-user] Where are the duplicate manager buttons described in the manual
Niranjan Rao schrieb am 10.08.21 um 07:43: Greetings, On 3.6, Ubuntu 20.04 I must be going blind or something. I could not find the buttons as described at https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/3.6/en/module-reference/utility-modules/darkroom/duplicate-manager/ It says buttons on top-right and I don't see any buttons. Trying to figure out top right of what? Where it says lighttable/darkroom etc or top right of duplicate manager where reset instance etc buttons are typically shown. In either case, I don't get any buttons anywhere. All I want to do start a new image without any changes or a virgin version as manual describes it. top right ... is depends see attached -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] errors(?) with darktable-generate-cache
Hi, I currently run this command ~$ darktable-generate-cache -m 4 --min-imgid 4 to generate FHD previews of the latest 4000 or so images from the last 2 years and get lots of messages like this image 1336/3453 (38,69%) (id:42723) [_dev_auto_apply_presets] missing mandatory module rawprepare for image 42723 [_dev_auto_apply_presets] missing mandatory module temperature for image 42723 [_dev_auto_apply_presets] missing mandatory module highlights for image 42723 [_dev_auto_apply_presets] missing mandatory module colorin for image 42723 [_dev_auto_apply_presets] missing mandatory module colorout for image 42723 [_dev_auto_apply_presets] missing mandatory module gamma for image 42723 Also I get such messages image 1067/3453 (30,90%) (id:41692) [_ioppr_check_rules] found rule flip clipping module clipping (17) is before flip (21) image 41692 (dt_dev_read_history_no_image end) [_ioppr_check_rules] found rule flip clipping module flip (21) is after clipping (17) image 41692 (dt_dev_read_history_no_image end) What's the cause? ... I find the images being generated. Anything to worry about? dt 3.6.0 on debian buster -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Storage solutions
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 26.07.21 um 21:25: * Willy Williams [07-26-21 15:03]: I've been using a free utility called FreeFileSync (https://freefilesync.org/) to keep my image files with their sidecar files (as well as other user files) synced between my Windows machines. It seems to do the job well, and keeps the folder structure synced, as well. Willy Williams ** BUT, it does not properly record your images to your library.db. it DOES - just sync the darktable profile AND the image folder. Use this in my Linux also for years now. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Frequent crashes of darktable 3.6.0 (3.6.0.3)
Achim Dittrich schrieb am 24.07.21 um 15:48: Hi, I'm generally very happy with darktable 3.6.0 but frequently I encounter crashes - e.g. 2 just within approx. 10 minutes today. Will the next release address these stability issues? I'm running the above mentioned version on a MacBook Pro 2015 with macOS Big Sur V. 11.5 These are open issues for dt 3.6.1 https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/milestone/21 These are tickets of crashes https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+crash If your szenario is not found there ... please add the appropriate infos there :) -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding v3.4 and v3.6 file importing
Michael Staats schrieb am 16.07.21 um 07:37: On 15/07/2021 20:47, Willy Williams wrote: I tend to think that perhaps I'm overthinking this, but here's the question: In v3.4, I could "import" an "image" or a "folder" (section 2.3.1 of The Fine Manual for v 3.4). Now that v3.6 has been released, I can "import" then "add to library" or "copy & import", per section 1.4.1 of The New Fine Manual. It almost seems that these changes are purely verbiage, not unlike a used car salesman calling a "pig" a "cochon" to be able to double the sale price. Frankly, I prefer to be able to open a single image the way I did in v3.4 to the new way of opening a library, then a folder, then an image as in v3.6. It seems to me that if my perception is correct, darktable is sliding too close to things I detest about Lightroom. If my perception is wrong, I'm very open to seeing it differently, but this is what I see right now. Thoughts? Willy Williams Hi According to what I understood, you are mostly right, except that it's more like calling a "pig" a "pig" and a "cow" a "cow", and not only one button with "some mammals" ;-) In other words: There were many discussions about what (the old) "import" means, when you (e.g.) connect your camera directly, or "import" from a local directory. One was involving copying files, the other did not. And this has become clearer now. Otherwise it's the same thing. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong Best regards, Michael Exactly what you say. And if Willy wants to import just one/few image(s): "copy & import" (or "import", if you want do edit on the memory card (?)), then navigate to the folder, then select the image(s) - press "import" and you're done ... Don't see the problem here. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Importing / Exporting photos in darktable 3.6
NEIL K schrieb am 06.07.21 um 03:51: Hi All, Sorry, may sound basic but I am at a loss to import images and move to darktable for editing in 3.6 version. Please advise. Thanks see this https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/3.6/en/overview/workflow/import-rate-tag/ -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released
In collection you select "folder", navigate to the parent folder (holiday) - you see nothing. You press "ctrl" and double click - you see every picture of every subfolder Francesco Scaglioni schrieb am 05.07.21 um 20:20: Firstly and most important - many thanks to all that have worked so hard to make this major release possible. I am however, confused about one thing ( so far, I am sure that there will be more ) : In the past, when in light table view it was possible to navigate to a directory ( that contained several several sub-directories that had all previously been imported ) and select it for opening. I believe there was a setting that determined the max number of sub-directories that could be traversed / nested ). Use case : I have a folder from a holiday that contains sub-folders of images by date. I then wish to open all images from that holiday. I cannot seem to find this option within 3.6. Apologies if this is a numpty question but any suggestions much appreciated. Cheers, F -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding exporting images / file size
KOVÁCS István schrieb am 22.05.21 um 23:01: On Sat, 22 May 2021 at 21:28, Willy Williams wrote: I can find no reference to being able to export images while down-sizing them to a specific maximum file size (in MB, not pixels). Does this capability exist at all? No, since in JPEG (I guess you're referring to JPEG, but the same also applies to PNG) you cannot set the desired output size: you set the compression parameters, but the resulting file size also depends on the content. This is contrary to music or video compression, where you often set a desired bitrate (average or fixed), and the compressor tweaks the compression parameters (e.g. quality settings) to achieve it. but apart from that it would be a nice feature. I experience again and again that in forums both the length and the width of an image and additionally the file size are limited. The problem of an algorithm is probably the same as the approach I currently take then by hand - it has to approximate it iteratively. But what is the primary criterion if the file size is too large? Change length/width first or the quality settings? And what is the weighting for larger "savings" to be achieved? Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] building darktable master - submodules
thokster schrieb am 28.04.21 um 15:38: $ git config submodule.src/tests/integration.update none Thanks a lot - that's what I needed. 3.5.0+1913~g1d12a51fa up and running - without GBs of additional downloads. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] building darktable master - submodules
Hi, I wanted to build dt-master again after some time to see what's new. I did $ git submodule init Submodul 'src/external/OpenCL' (https://github.com/KhronosGroup/OpenCL-Headers.git) für Pfad 'src/external/OpenCL' in die Konfiguration eingetragen. Submodul 'src/external/libxcf' (https://github.com/houz/libxcf.git) für Pfad 'src/external/libxcf' in die Konfiguration eingetragen. Submodul 'src/external/rawspeed' (https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed.git) für Pfad 'src/external/rawspeed' in die Konfiguration eingetragen. Submodul 'src/external/whereami' (https://github.com/gpakosz/whereami) für Pfad 'src/external/whereami' in die Konfiguration eingetragen. Submodul 'src/tests/integration' (https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable-tests.git) für Pfad 'src/tests/integration' in die Konfiguration eingetragen. and then $ git submodule update Klone nach '/home/username/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/external/OpenCL' ... Klone nach '/home/username/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/external/whereami' ... Klone nach '/home/username/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/external/libxcf' ... Klone nach '/home/username/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/external/rawspeed' ... Klone nach '/home/username/github/darktable-org/darktable/src/tests/integration' ... ^C The last one downloaded endlessly and I stopped this by Ctrl-C I remember Pascal informing us that integration tests had been removed from the main repo and moved to submodule as these are only used by devs. How can I build dt without having to download these masses of data? Or are those mandatory despite being in a submodule? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Split screen to compare two images
Hieke van Hoogdalem schrieb am 18.04.21 um 16:40: Hi there, I was searching the internet and found this old discussion: https://darktable-users.narkive.com/8u9xFA4G/how-to-compare-two-photos-with-darktable Is there a simpler way to do this? Hartelijke groet, Hieke van Hoogdalem perhaps this one: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/lighttable/lighttable-modes/culling/ -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Newbie
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 09.04.21 um 00:03: however, unsupported cameras can usually be made to work in Lightroom and Darktable by using Adobe's free DNG converter to turn the RAW file into a DNG. but doing this - never throw away the original RAF files as this is a one-way process and noone guarantees that this will work in future also. Darktable is tested against original RAW files but not against converted ones. At least this is what the devs say. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Thomas Werzmirzowsky schrieb am 03.04.21 um 12:13: Oh no, sadly the cache thumbnail gets removed as soon as I open an image that does not exist. Afterwards the skull is shown again. This only happens when opening an image from the develop module. From the lighttable it is not possible to open an image and therefore it doesn't happen there. That is: - in lighttable you see the thumbnail: click on it - get error message - thumbnail stays as is - in darkroom - there in the film strip at the bottom: you see the thumbnail: click on it - get error message - thumbnail is removed and skull shown Correct? That sounds as if a bug report would be the solution https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
werzi2...@gmx.de schrieb am 02.04.21 um 14:26:
Hello,
as my image collection slowly but surely gets to big for a single hard
disk I thought about having multiple disks. One for the darktable
library (including cache and config) plus the most recent images and
one (or more) other disks for older stuff. To check how darktable
deals with that I copied the library to another disk with no images at
all and opened it from there (with adapted paths to cache and config).
As expected the images are shown in the collection but I cannot open
any of them ("... not available"). Strangely also the thumbnail is not
shown but instead only a skull icon. I thought that the thumbnails
would still be shown as they are stored in the cache directory that is
still available. Is it the expected behaviour that all thumbnails "are
gone" or am I missing something?
Hi Thomas,
not answering your question directly - but related to what you want to
achieve:
My suggestion:
Keep the library on your machine and move the top level folder with what
you call "older stuff" to some other drive using your file manager.
Then read this one:
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collect-images/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images
darktable will then update the library and everything should be fine
thereafter ...
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Re: [darktable-user] changing directory
Concerning the problem of the TO, this August Schwerdfeger schrieb am 28.03.21 um 06:07: A third option (which does not involve any hand-hacking of the database) is to open the folders collection, right-click on the root folder containing all the misplaced images, and click "search filmroll...". This will bring up a dialog box in which you should select the new location of that same folder. is the method to chose for all "normal users" as it is an automated GUI option. Works fine, tested several times when restructuring my folder structure. William Ferguson schrieb am 29.03.21 um 02:05: Why not set up /etc/fstab in linux so that your volumes always mount in the correct/same place? "Drive Letter" is a problem of Windows users. But perhaps you refer to Stéphane Gourichon schrieb am 28.03.21 um 22:34: Suggested situation looks like actual git design. Administrative files live in .git directory at *repository root*. With git you can access a git repository through whatever path it happens to be reachable, no constraints. It just works. With suggested situation in darktable, when you access a photo collection on a removable drive, or a network share, etc, darktable would notice the volume (just like git notices the repository by looking for a .git directory) and not create duplicates because photos have already been identified as being of a known volume. Sounds like a smart solution but I can already see the complaints from users who are upset about the filesystem being cluttered with "all the darktable files" (just like they are upset about the .xmp) -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] XMP file always overwritten by dt
Klaus schrieb am 01.03.21 um 19:03: I would like now to transfer tags, color lables and rating from jpg files in digiKam to the raw files in dt and I am using a small script for modifying the xmp files. are you sure the modified xmps are still valid for darktable? Just an idea, but maybe dt dicards those xmps for some reason ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Internal browser
Lorenzo Fontanella schrieb am 28.02.21 um 16:49: Is there an option in DT to "explore" system files and folders, opening only the desired images? Without having to import, but simply having a browser inside the program? The current management that foresees a compulsory importation of "files or folders" is a reason for refusal to use the software for all those who do not want to have internal db in the editing programs. Thanks Lorenzo Fontanella --- Please note that darktable - like all RAW editors - works non-destructive. See this paper at https://web.archive.org/web/20140912051214/http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/pdfs/non_destructive_imaging.pdf That means: the edits have to be stored somewhere. darktable stores them within a database for speed reasons - and also in .xmps for interoperability. If you don't want this - I fear this is not the right choice for you. You might have a look at Lightzone e. g., this is browser-only ... and slow and tries to compensate this by storing .jpgs instead of .xmps with every image. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] lighttable view responsiveness
Guillermo Rozas schrieb am 24.02.21 um 14:39: the generated thumbnails ( https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/special-topics/program-invocation/darktable-generate-cache/). Depending on the zoom levels you use on the lighttable the defaults may not be the optimum, and thumbnails would be generated on demand. Of course, the higher the limit you use the more space on disk you'll need. to be honest I did not use this before - but every now and then I try to improve things and so I took the opportunity to look into this. But: I found that binary iterating through the _complete_ archive - tens of thousands of images. I did not find any options like "rekursive" or give a start directory so I can build only a fraction of the total archive - or did I overlook something? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Again... SD-Card import on Win10
Simon Wren schrieb am 21.02.21 um 23:31: Try using Rapid Photo Downloader to copy the files from the card onto your hard drive. You can setup templates to automatically create the required directories (folders) using key data (date, time etc.). https://damonlynch.net/rapid/download.html <https://damonlynch.net/rapid/download.html> He is on Windows ... > On 21/02/2021 21:50 Guillermo Rozas wrote: > > Is your card being automatically mounted by Windows? darktable won't offer you > to import directly from the card if it is mounted (and unmounting it before > makes it disappear from the system, so probably not a solution either). > Regards, > Guillermo This IS very important!! -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 18.02.21 um 22:18: A couple of 'improvements (?)' I would like to see going forward with tone equalizer is to have the mask's histogram on display as I adjust the sliders in the masking tab. At the moment I jump back and forth between the advanced tab and the masking tab to spread the histogram as wide as practical. The other option would be to have the mask's histogram automatically spread across from left to right based upon the brightness zones. Would fully support this. And from my experience: I did struggle at the beginning and prefered the zones module for some time even I knew that it is _not_ recommended with the scene referred workflow. Only after I watched the "understanding darktable" video I realized that I did not use the tone equalizer correctly before and now I find myself in the same "switching situation" that you describe. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] command line on a Mac?
Thanks Mike and Andreas, that helped a lot. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Michael Kefeder schrieb am 15.02.21 um 20:52: Hi unless he custom installed somehow this path to the darktable binary should work: "/Applications/darktable.app/Contents/MacOS/darktable -d perf" and "/Applications/darktable.app/Contents/MacOS/darktable-cltest" respectively hth mike Am Mo., 15. Feb. 2021 um 20:46 Uhr schrieb Bernhard < darkta...@intervalsignals.org>: Hi, I was asked by a user of a Mac mini (2018) with macOS Big Sur Vers. 11.2.1 (20D74) about some aspects of darktable. To investigate I suggested some terminal commands, e. g. darktable -d perf darktable-cltest He told me that those commands won't work. He also assumes that perhaps he has to prefix the path to the binaries but does not know where to find them. "Where the darktable app is stored, they are not in any case" I don't know anything about Mac - any tipps I could pass along? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] command line on a Mac?
Hi, I was asked by a user of a Mac mini (2018) with macOS Big Sur Vers. 11.2.1 (20D74) about some aspects of darktable. To investigate I suggested some terminal commands, e. g. darktable -d perf darktable-cltest He told me that those commands won't work. He also assumes that perhaps he has to prefix the path to the binaries but does not know where to find them. "Where the darktable app is stored, they are not in any case" I don't know anything about Mac - any tipps I could pass along? -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] denoise on duplicates
David Vincent-Jones schrieb am 14.02.21 um 22:28: I opened-up my 2019 folder and found many of my images were shown blank (black). I use the duplicate option heavily and many of my images have 3, 4 or more versions as I look for interesting solutions. In all cases where I had one or more duplicates the original was displayed correctly but the duplicate was showing blank. When I went through the processing steps I found that if I deleted the "denoise (profiled)" then the image is restored. I finally found a solution of deleting the denoise module totally from the Historyand then adding denoise back in as a final step then the image was correctly restored. The problem is not seen on more recent versions of dt. The denoise version is probably the same now as was used in prior years ... I am still using the same camera. I have been using the daily git version for some long time. The problem as such is solved but others might find this interesting. I think that this might be related: I found that denoise profiled also destroys the edit and creates a jumbled pattern of red lines in the thumbnail when applying the history stack in the light table from one image to another. Wanted to open an issue on this and am looking for suitable RAWs and xmps to attach. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tags
Marco DE BOOIJ schrieb am 07.02.21 um 17:41: I had the 'rename path' once but now in 3.4.x I no longer see this. Is there some configuration that I need to change? Did you set the module to the 'tree'-mode? (bottom right button) In 'list' mode it's not available. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tags
Guillermo Rozas schrieb am 07.02.21 um 14:54: Now my question: Is it possible to change the path from "Locations Landscapes|Locations|Continents" to: "Locations Landscapes|Continents" which would omit the unnecessary second „Locations". I simply do not dare to try it out, because I have checked in some xmp-files, where the path " Locations Landscapes|Locations|Continents" does appear. Or is there another way to get rid of it? One safe way to do it would be: - use the collect module to select all pictures with an old hierarchy tag - attach to them the tag from the new hierarchy - detach from them the old hierarchy tag - repeat for each tag This assumes all your pictures are in darktable's database. Another option would be to use a script to modify all the XMP sidecars, and re-import. while this works with darktable 3.x onwards there is a more convinient method within the tagging module: --- see attached --- -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Question about github
Bernhard schrieb am 07.02.21 um 09:06: Hi I'm also only a casual user of git/github, but Bruce Williams schrieb am 07.02.21 um 03:17: So, I did this: bruce@admin:~/Downloads/darktable-dev/darktable$ git checkout release-3.4.1 error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by checkout: src/tests/integration/-nop/expected.png src/tests/integration/-nop/nop.xmp src/tests/integration/0001-exposure/expected.png src/tests/integration/0001-exposure/exposure.xmp src/tests/integration/0002-local-contrast/expected.png src/tests/integration/0002-local-contrast/local-contrast.xmp Perhaps this has to do with what Pascal wrote some time ago: Pascal Obry schrieb am 15.01.21 um 12:02: The integration tests are eating quite some band width for some people and will become hard to manage at some point. It has been decided to move the integration tests under a sub-module. This will require more work for the devs but seems to be a good compromise. The change will happen today. If you don't care about the integration tests and want to avoid downloading the tests you can do: $ git config submodule.src/test/integration.update none So perhaps others could clarify. I would try the given command and see if you get rid of all these errors since you as a user most likely will not need those tests I just did some random tests: Bruce, I assume that you cloned the darktable repository some time ago and just updated by 'git pull' from time to time to build your master binaries. That's what I did also. When I call 'git checkout release-3.4.1' I get the same errors as you experienced. The command 'git config submodule.src/test/integration.update none' I mentioned above does NOT solve this. My quick and dirty solution: rename the folder with the incremental darktable repo (which was 2.7GB big) to something like "darktable_old" and do a fresh 'git clone https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable.git' Within this new clone (only 1.2GB big) the above command 'git checkout release-3.4.1' works - don't however know why this is ... perhaps someone other can clarify. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
