Re: X11 and keymaps on debian 1.2
... Det er faktiskt ret godt, hvor mange har sine egne metoder at sætte tastaturet paa under X. XFree86 kommer med et danskt symbol layout som default, saa du behøver faktiskt kun at vælge et danskt tastatur naar du kører xf86setup. Men ellers saa fylder du bare ind dk istedet for de i sætningen. ... Please, don't do things like *that*! This list is in English! I *really* want to know what the guys here are speaking about, specially if the subject is X11! If someone here wants to speak in his/her natural language, please do this by private e-mail. I'm not very good in English, but other languages I know less than nothing. Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222 IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
texbin and tex base fonts?
I trust the problem of texbin not depending on tex's base fonts has been fixed? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dselect suggestions: mailing list created
Hello all. As much as I think that the many suggestions about dselect are beneficial, I'd like to see the debian-user list return to general usage hints, etc. As such, I've created a mailing list for dselect suggestions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please keep in mind that it is a manually-edited list until I can select and implement list processor software, so subscriptions may take a little time. The list will process mail to it at 30-minute intervals. If any one else wishes to provide this service (in a more standard fashion or at a more standard address), I would be happy to offer any assistance and transition aliases as long as necessary. Hopefully, people will use this opportunity to help minimize traffic on debian-user, as it's been rather busy lately (sometimes 2-4 hour delay to process mail, I believe). Thanks for your support. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: No, this is wrong. A new user should not have to read long documents prior to installation. The configure scripts which runs directly after the installation should make reading docs unnecessary. I disagree. You should understand what you are doing. If you don't even want to know what is going and how you are to use it, what is the point of having it? Bragging to your friends? My totally-newbie friends were both given rex of my HD. They both called me after installation and asked how to get X started. Neither had configured X in any way. How are they supposed to know? The post-install configure script should take care of it. The installation process is not (necessarily) the place to learn about packages. Dselect in particular does not have room (unless you've got some incredible montior and a very long xterm) to give full installation, configuration, and operation instructions before or during installation. If it did, how would publishers like O'Reilly and Associates be in business? This is the real world. We as humans may have to read a bit and learn a bit to use a bit of our toys. Remember, it's JUST a computer. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any IRC channels for (Debian) Linux?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On which network? Efnet? Whoops, yes. EFnet. :) I'm only on EFnet and YiffNet anyway :) Ben - -- Brought to you by the letters M and C and the number 16. Mmm.. slanty.. -- Homer Simpson Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBMthPWPTlx5Rynzi5AQGbawH9GIoP7ciaa1gG9MomQNWhlSaWeLv3P1/h 6HuLcMK/0rb4Bdw+E1nlUTyQSkN/OoMQepZf72wZcFV7O2QxowARxA== =H8zG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mime and elm (was RE: X-wm question and ZipDrive)
Hamish Moffat wrote: Good. Any chance you could not send all messages as MIME, either? Real PITA to read with plain jane elm on a character terminal. Couldn't you pre-filter your email with procmail and a MIME extraction program? Maybe the packages mime-support (which `can be used to turn virtually any mail reader program into a multimedia mail reader') or mpack? I'd love to. But this machine is not a Debian box, it's my account at university running Solaris 5.5.1, and there's no procmail, or munpack, etc. Only metamail, which isn't very friendly. Unfortunately, I doubt my disk quota runs to a permanent copy of procmail, which sounds quite featureful and therefore probably quite large. After all, MIME is so well established and you're imposing the lowest common denominator on us. True, but I see no advantage in sending absolutely plain text messages as MIME when some people (such as me) will complain. When attachments are involved, I agree, MIME simplifies things significantly and metamail handles this adequately. Although I still use Netscape when I'm trying to send file attachments. A FreeBSD system I use has a special version of elm with native MIME support. ELM 2.4ME+ PL22 (25) This would be nice on debian. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
The real question is: What key does dselect use for repeat searches? rather than What key should it be?. It is just pure / WITHOUT any pattern. It is exactly the same in more. / always seems to take me to the first package matching that description. \ is the repeat key, Rick points out. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any IRC channels for (Debian) Linux?
I have a #Debian channel on undernet for any that wish to go there. Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ On 11 Jan 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On which network? Efnet? Whoops, yes. EFnet. :) I'm only on EFnet and YiffNet anyway :) Ben - -- Brought to you by the letters M and C and the number 16. Mmm.. slanty.. -- Homer Simpson Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBMthPWPTlx5Rynzi5AQGbawH9GIoP7ciaa1gG9MomQNWhlSaWeLv3P1/h 6HuLcMK/0rb4Bdw+E1nlUTyQSkN/OoMQepZf72wZcFV7O2QxowARxA== =H8zG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can hercules graphics cards work with debian?
--Hello, I have an old northgate unit that i wish to use as a non graphics unit on debian and i wish to know could i use it as is? it only has a herc mono card- hey this was a 4000 dollar unit in 89!! allan--- Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/11/97 Time: 11:23:25 PM This message was sent by Chameleon - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the status of X11 in Debian 1.2?
Can somebody tell me which X11 distribution rex is based on? and where for instance does one find the Matrox Millenium server in .deb format? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where to put things to be satrted at bootup ?
Where is the debian correct place to put things that need to be starrted up a boot time, such as rwhod? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1996 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 16bpp in X
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:54:37 PST Brad Bell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i can make X run with 16bpp, no problem, by typing (as someone has noted) 'startx -- -bpp 16' the question is - how do i make 16 bpp the default (i.e. xdm starts up when i boot, but only in 8 bpp) This has nothing to do with the XF86COnfig file. Edit the /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers files. You'll find the following line: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X To be changed into: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16 Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie questions
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:39:03 PST Gary Gifford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Also, following Zenon Fortuna's detailed posting regarding the Info Magic LDR (thank you Zenon!!) I can get to the point of trying to create a new kernel but the make config says command not found. I suspect this has to do with run levels or permisions but I am quite lost. Install the make package :-) And finally, every once in a while I hit an attempted command experimentally and the root prompt changes from # to and I can't use any commands. When I try to go back to the rot directory I get a not connected message. My only way out has been to shutdown. Any suggestions. Your command in unterminated (missing ' or `). Do CTRL-C to get a fresh prompt. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to put things to be satrted at bootup ?
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:56:47 EST Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Where is the debian correct place to put things that need to be starrted up a boot time, such as rwhod? Put a script or a program in /etc/rc.boot. It will be executed every startup. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, David Engel wrote: I have a nagging problem with 'defaultroute' that maybe you can help me with. Everytime diald drops the link due to inactivity, it deletes the default route. After that, diald won't bring the link back up for non-loopback addresses because there aren't any routes. I have to manually force the link back up. Any ideas? It's a bug in diald that has been fixed with the newest release of diald. However, the newest release hasn't been debianized yet by the maintainer (I don't think). I am going to do it myself if a new diald.deb doesn't show up in unstable soon. If you want a copy, email me. I didn't know there was a new version. Thanks. Diald now restores the routes and interfaces to the state they were before the link was brought up. However, diald still won't bring the link back up automatically after it has taken it down. The dummy SLIP interface acts likes it is passing packets (the TX counter increments), but diald never seems to notice and reactivate the real SLIP interface. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1001 E. Arapaho Road (972) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 and keymaps on debian 1.2
Please, don't do things like *that*! This list is in English! I *really* want to know what the guys here are speaking about, specially if the subject is X11! If someone here wants to speak in his/her natural language, please do this by private e-mail. I'm not very good in English, but other languages I know less than nothing. sorry... I just told him that it was quite easy to install a danish keyboard layout for XFree86 windows. He just neaded to select it, when running the config program. X comes with it, by default... but otherwise, he was just to fill in the (blanks) de with dk and he should be home :-) -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, David Engel wrote: I didn't know there was a new version. Thanks. Diald now restores the routes and interfaces to the state they were before the link was brought up. However, diald still won't bring the link back up automatically after it has taken it down. The dummy SLIP interface acts likes it is passing packets (the TX counter increments), but diald never seems to notice and reactivate the real SLIP interface. I just installed it, and it's working for me... Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inexpensive color printer experience
I would like to hear about peoples experinece with inexpensive color printers used from debian. I am considering buying one for my system. It will see fairly light duty, since I have an HP LJ 5m as my main printer suplemented by some heavy duty dot matrix machines. I was going to get a Postscript machine (HP probably) but I found out that the cheapest Postscript machine they have is the 1600CM, which runs around $2000 street price. That's more than I want to pay for this. So please tell me about your experiences (good and bad)and howyou use them (ghostcsript ). Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1996 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scanner software recomendations ?
I am looking for a software package to use to interface am HP scanner to my Debian system. Any recomendations? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1996 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arghh.. Problems with install.
Alright, I'm attempting to install Debian. (That's good right?) Well, I've encountered my first problem. When I boot with the Rescue disk, I get all the error messages probes etc, that it's supposed to do. Then it comes to what I'm sure it's not supposed to do. When it gets to the point where it says RAMDISK:Compressed image found at block 0 it then continues with these error messages Couldn't get a free page. out of memoryVFS:mounted root(minix filesystem) init:cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' is corrupt and then NOTHING. That's it frozen solid. Ctrl-Alt-Delete reboots and if you leave it in it does the same exact thing. I've tried using different disks to no avail, they all seem to do it. I've got a 386DX/33 manufactured by Zeos computers. With 4M RAM and a 130MB ST1144AT HD. Mediavision Jazz chipset based soundcard integrated with a Future domain TMC8XX SCSI controller and 2x CD-ROM. The error message is the same whether or not I include the boot flag tmc8xx=0xce000,11 or not. I also have a Diamond Stealth VRAM SVGA card. 1.44 and 1.2 meg floppies. The boot images I'm using are from ftp.debian.org and are the most current set at this time, I downloaded 'em just tonight. Any insights into the problem would be appreciated, maybe someone else has had a similar experience. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems. (fwd)
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, David Engel wrote: I didn't know there was a new version. Thanks. Diald now restores the routes and interfaces to the state they were before the link was brought up. However, diald still won't bring the link back up automatically after it has taken it down. The dummy SLIP interface acts likes it is passing packets (the TX counter increments), but diald never seems to notice and reactivate the real SLIP interface. I just installed it, and it's working for me... Erv I take it back. It's not working. Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanner software recomendations ?
Stan Brown wrote: I am looking for a software package to use to interface am HP scanner to my Debian system. Any recomendations? xvscan, but you have to pay for it. you can go to http://www.tummy.com/xvscan/Welcome.html to get more info. lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk partitioning - recommended sizes
One thing I'm surprised has gone unsaid in this discussion -- keep some extra space for testing new distributions. Even with my meager total of 330MB (yes, I'm adding another drive RSN) I have enough space to install a minimal system with the stuff that's really important to me, like uucp and smail, so I don't inconvenience myself by doing a major upgrade only to find out it doesn't work. With 4GB you should be able to leave enough space to install X and whatever else you use a lot. You can always keep the spare partition mounted as /tmp or something when you're not testing in it. -- Bill Roman ([EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]) running linux -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian newsgroup?
I joined the debian list for a few weeks last November when I had a Sony CD configuration problem, and was very glad for the help I got. (I needed the magic flag 'cdu31a_port=0x340'.) The info is great. However, this list is just too much email to leave on all the time. Is it available as a newsgroup or web archive? Thanks! Robin --- RD in Internet video and speech recogition using C++ and Java http://jumpsite.com San Diego, CA 619-457-1159 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Novell and Linux
-- From: medifax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Novell and Linux Date: Saturday, January 11, 1997 10:01 PM Greetings, I was recently approached by a customer who is wanting to bring his Linux system to work. His dilemma is that we use a Novell network using a NDS (Novell directory service) client to hook all our other OS's up with. Does anybody know if a Novell client exist for Linux. Thanks for your time!. -William Riggs -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Novell and Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- medifax [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings, I was recently approached by a customer who is wanting to bring his Linux system to work. His dilemma is that we use a Novell network using a NDS (Novell directory service) client to hook all our other OS's up with. Does anybody know if a Novell client exist for Linux. Thanks for your time!. There are a few Debian packages that do this automatically; I just recently installed ncpfs and ipx, and with a simple ncpmount -S MY_SERVER -U MY_USER /home/mydir/mynovelldir, I had mounted my server's directory. :) - -- Brought to you by the letters P and L and the number 17. It is sad. *Campers* cannot *dance*. Not even a *party*. -- Orz, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBMtibc/Tlx5Rynzi5AQFcGwIAubLuTOlNI+Y0lO7Gp36Apq38qNlq/tFP tZatSfNlAJuB3wqu2vWuYPCEFTMcGskszvjkFXXIxDLEjZDoDnexJA== =KRJl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Pete Templin wrote: No, this is wrong. A new user should not have to read long documents prior I disagree. You should understand what you are doing. If you don't even want to know what is going and how you are to use it, what is the point of having it? Bragging to your friends? I guess you people are right about that of course any user should follow instructions. But that is no reason why installation is harder than it has to be. Then why do we have dselect in the first place? Just supply dpkg and a complete manual and we would not have any problems? Right? No! Installation should be as easy as possible. Our goal should be to make it so easy that no one has to look in the manual. And we're not far from there. I gave my two friends rex and told them to install it, after having saying good things about it for several months. Neither of them have used any unix before. Both made very few mistakes. I see this as a success for Debian, BUT, both made the mistake i posted about. So making this clearer would make installation easier, at least for some people. Easier installation is Good. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XPMs?
It's good idea to put all the icons on same directory but let's not make another package with all the icons. Icons should come with package they belong in. Well, all the icons together don't take up that much space, and just before I wrote about this, I had the problem, that I needed an xterm-hp or hpterm icon. Just for that I needed to install ctwm (which otherwise I don't use). And also, just looking at the names of the icons, there seem to be quite a few duplicates. I think putting the icons into the a single directory could be a first step, but as the window-manager icons can also be used in other window-managers, I don't see why I should be required to install all WM's just to have all icons around. That's why I said I'd rather have all icons in one package that is required by those packages that presently contain those icons. Benedikt signoff --- Benedikt Eric Heinen - Muehlemattstrasse 53 - CH3007 Bern - SWITZERLAND email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: ++41.79.3547891 RIOT, n. A popular entertainment given to the military by innocent bystanders. Ambrose Bierce ``The Devil's Dictionary'' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Novell and Linux
anybody know if a Novell client exist for Linux. What you want may be in the Linux kernel itself; the below comes from the Kernel documentation. This is support for the Novell networking protocol, IPX, commonly used for local networks of Windows machines. You need it if you want to access Novell Netware file or print servers using the Linux Novell client ncpfs (available via ftp (user: anonymous) from sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Filesystems/) or from within the Linux DOS emulator dosemu (read the DOSEMU-HOWTO, available in sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO). In order to do the former, you'll also have to say Y to NCP filesystem support, below. To turn your Linux box into a fully featured Netware file server and IPX router, say Y here and fetch either lwared from sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Network/daemons/ or mars_nwe from ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/misc/ncpfs. For more information, read the IPX-HOWTO in sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/howto. The IPX driver would enlarge your kernel by about 5 kB. This driver is also available as a module ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say M here and read Documentation/modules.txt. Unless you want to integrate your Linux box with a local Novell network, say N. NCP (NetWare Core Protocol) is a protocol that runs over IPX and is used by Novel NetWare clients to talk to file servers. It is to IPX what nfs is to tcp/ip, if that helps. Enabling this option allows you to mount NetWare file server volumes and to access them just like any other Unix directory. For details, please read the file Documentation/filesystems/ncpfs.txt in the kernel source and the IPX-HOWTO on sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/howto. If you want to compile this as a module ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want), say M here and read Documentation/modules.txt. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inexpensive color printer experience
I have a Canon BJC-4100 color printer that sells for between $200-300. I've been using it for several months now with slackware using APSfilter and Aladdin ghostscript. Prints all postscript files painlessly. You just lpr foo.txt or foo.ps and APSfilter decides what needs to be done. Actually APSfilter converts all files to postscript and then uses gs to print them. Color PostScript works too! No need to spend money on a PostScript printer, just let your cpu do the job for you and it's free. Disclaimer: I just installed debian recently and haven't tried out the debian versions of APSfilter and gs. Also, I don't think the current version uses the full resolution of my printer. --Bob Stan Brown wrote: I would like to hear about peoples experinece with inexpensive color printers used from debian. I am considering buying one for my system. It will see fairly light duty, since I have an HP LJ 5m as my main printer suplemented by some heavy duty dot matrix machines. I was going to get a Postscript machine (HP probably) but I found out that the cheapest Postscript machine they have is the 1600CM, which runs around $2000 street price. That's more than I want to pay for this. So please tell me about your experiences (good and bad)and howyou use them (ghostcsript ). Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1996 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
Jona Bofjall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Installation should be as easy as possible. Our goal should be to make it so easy that no one has to look in the manual. And we're not far from there. I gave my two friends rex and told them to install it, after having saying good things about it for several months. Neither of them have used any unix before. Both made very few mistakes. I see this as a success for Debian, BUT, both made the mistake i posted about. So making this clearer would make installation easier, at least for some people. Easier installation is Good. You're really losing the point here... what is in your mind, an EASY installation? A brain dead program, that does all your thinking for you? You want your Linux box to be like your C64... just power on and wait for the Ready. prompt? Look at Windows... and all the users running it, with its idiot proof user interface? You want to make a Debian shot at where Microsoft is failing so miserably? All you will ever accomplish is a big bunch of helpless users, that can't even figure out by themselves to re-start a program when it gets stuck. The installation should be as complex as it needs be, to be able to take care of all possible needs of the system, with the systems cababilities in mind. But CONTEXT RELATIVE... which is not the same as EASY. This means if you are new to the system, you have to Read The Fuckin' Manual, but if you are experienced computer guru, you should be able to find your way through with minimum effort. The user, her/himself is far better off by going through an initial phase, where she/he will get intimite with the system. It will save the user a lot of money/time and frustration later on. -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Info sought for libc5-pic package
Can anyone give me information about the libc5-pic package? There appear to be no docs distributed with it, and the FAQ for libc5 doesn't mention it either. The few lines that describe it say that it's useful for creating customized versions of libc.so (like libc-lite.so, I assume). Thanks, -Tom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using .rhosts?
Hi there, there's one problem that arose on my two debian machines at home, that I noticed a couple of days ago, but I can't find a solution yet... I am mainly working on the 'better' machine - the 'smaller' machine is the one connected to the internet. Under debian 1.1 I used several scripts from the better machine to access the internet programs on the other machines via rsh - since I upgraded the internet machine to Debian 1.2 this no longer works. 'rsh icemark' comes back with permission denied, and 'rlogin icemark' now prompts me for my password. I didn't change /etc/hosts.equiv or .rhosts during the update. Now, how can I get my .rhosts entries back working? Benedikt signoff --- Benedikt Eric Heinen - Muehlemattstrasse 53 - CH3007 Bern - SWITZERLAND email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: ++41.79.3547891 RIOT, n. A popular entertainment given to the military by innocent bystanders. Ambrose Bierce ``The Devil's Dictionary'' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Arghh.. Problems with install.
... Couldn't get a free page. out of memoryVFS:mounted root(minix filesystem) init:cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' is corrupt ... I've got a 386DX/33 manufactured by Zeos computers. With 4M RAM and a 130MB ST1144AT HD. Mediavision Jazz chipset based soundcard integrated with a Future domain TMC8XX SCSI controller and 2x CD-ROM. The error message is the same whether or not I include the boot flag tmc8xx=0xce000,11 or not. I also have a Diamond Stealth VRAM SVGA card. 1.44 and 1.2 meg floppies. Well, the easiest solution is to buy more RAM (4Mb). If it's impossible, you'll need, instead of the rescue disk, a set of two disk, the first to boot, and the second to mount as root. But for this you'll need two disk drives, because one of them will stay with the root disk, and the other you'll use to put the installation disks. My sugestion? Buy more RAM ;) Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222 IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation problem
I am trying to install Debian 1.2 on a Micron Millenia Transport laptop. For some reason (probably conected with the fact that there is no way of disabling shadow video for this board) the laptop display switches off fairly early in the procedure last message SJCD resetting. If I connect an external monitor, either activated together with or instead of the internal display, it remains active. I had a similar problem with 1.1 (for which I never finished the install since 1.2 became available) but one of the special kernels (2.0.18_0) solved it. There don't seem to be any such special kernels in 1.2, and I have no nformation about what configuration was used to generate the one which worked for me. I would try continuing with the 1.1 installation, but the floppies have gone bad. Any suggestions? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Arghh.. Problems with install.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Troy M. Lubbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Alright, I'm attempting to install Debian. (That's good right?) Well, I've encountered my first problem. When I boot with the Rescue disk, I get all the error messages probes etc, that it's supposed to do. Then it comes to what I'm sure it's not supposed to do. When it gets to the point where it says RAMDISK:Compressed image found at block 0 it then continues with these error messages Couldn't get a free page. out of memoryVFS:mounted root(minix filesystem) init:cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' is corrupt and then NOTHING. That's it frozen solid. Ctrl-Alt-Delete reboots and if you leave it in it does the same exact thing. I've tried using different disks to no avail, they all seem to do it. I've got a 386DX/33 manufactured by Zeos computers. With 4M RAM and a 130MB ST1144AT HD. Mediavision Jazz chipset based soundcard integrated with a Future domain TMC8XX SCSI controller and 2x CD-ROM. The error message is the same whether or not I include the boot flag tmc8xx=0xce000,11 or not. I also have a Diamond Stealth VRAM SVGA card. 1.44 and 1.2 meg floppies. The boot images I'm using are from ftp.debian.org and are the most current set at this time, I downloaded 'em just tonight. Any insights into the problem would be appreciated, maybe someone else has had a similar experience. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had the same with 1.2 install disks: I had managed an install in 4M with 1.1 equivalents. Sounds like you're out of memory: I cured the problem by adding a scrap 4M of memory: there may be other ways round this (turning off ramdisks ) -- Andrew Martin Adrian Cater -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian newsgroup?
In your email to me, Robin Rowe, you wrote: I joined the debian list for a few weeks last November when I had a Sony CD configuration problem, and was very glad for the help I got. (I needed the magic flag 'cdu31a_port=0x340'.) The info is great. However, this list is just too much email to leave on all the time. Is it available as a newsgroup or web archive? You can read all the linux.* mailinglists ported to news from llug.sep.bnl.gov. Just point your newsreader at it. It is *read only*, not posting allowed... Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Very Pete Townshendish. Who? Exactly. -- Anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deselect_update_via_cdrom
I recently updated from Debian 1.1.4 to Debian 1.2.1 using a CDROM supplied by Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I decided to update via dselect and would like to share my experience. Dale responded graciously to several of my questions to get me started. Here is the scenario: 0. mount the cd; let's say '/cdrom' is the mount point 1. 'dpkg -i /cdrom/rex-fixed/binary-i386/base/ldso_1.8.5-1.deb' to satisfy a predepend for perl update 2. 'ln -sf /cdrom/rex-fixed /stable' 3. 'ln -sf /cdrom/contrib /contrib' 4. 'dselect' 5. Within dselect, choose mounted (Install from a mounted file system which is already mounted) as the access method - restrain yourself from choosing cdrom as the access method. 6. When dselect asks for distribution top level [none]', enter '/' 7. It will complain about not finding 'non-free/binary-i386', so enter 'cdrom/non-free/binary' - note no initial '/' 8. The cd didn't have a 'local', so at that point I entered 'none' 9. You'll now be admitted into the bowels of dselect to make your software selections etc. Some of the choices above seem non-intuitive/capricious, but I trundled down some blind paths before this worked for me - you may find a more sensible scenario. Regards, Richard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pernewbie_question
I have used Debian for some time, yet seem to be a permanent newbie - a 'pernewbie'. I updated from 1.1.4 to 1.2.1 and have one remaining glitch; lpr has a problem. I am hoping someone can give me the simple solution: 1. As root, an attempt to 'lpr filename' leads to this error message lpr: /dev/lp1: unknown printer whereas 'cat filename /dev/lp1' works OK and the /etc/printcap file looks OK and is one that used to work. 2. As a user other than root, 'lpr filename' works just fine. Hints? Thanks in advance, Richard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XPMs?
Hi Benedikt, You wrote: Well, all the icons together don't take up that much space, and just before I wrote about this, I had the problem, that I needed an xterm-hp or hpterm icon. Just for that I needed to install ctwm (which otherwise I don't use). And also, just looking at the names of the icons, there seem to be quite a few duplicates. I think putting the icons into the a single directory could be a first step, but as the window-manager icons can also be used in other window-managers, I don't see why I should be required to install all WM's just to have all icons around. That's why I said I'd rather have all icons in one package that is required by those packages that presently contain those icons. Hmmm...I hadn't thought of it like that. You are right, I do sometime use different icons then one that came with the package. Do you use mc? You can use mc to see the insides of package and extract file(s) you want without having to unpack. I use it all the time for such a thing. Later, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any IRC channels for (Debian) Linux?
hiya all, well i've been joining #debian on the undernet now for a few months but never see anyone. i'll start maintaining the channel on a perminent basis now. if you'd like to help out feel free to join the channel :) i find that #linux on undernet is centered to much on the redhat and slackware that i'd like to have the debian channel come to life. for people who have not been to the undernet here are a few servers: rockhill.sc.us.undernet.org:6664 sandiego.ca.us.undernet.org:6664 portland.me.us.undernet.org:6667 baltimore.md.us.undernet.org:6669 lowell.ma.us.undernet.org:6665 okc.ok.us.undernet.org:6664 dallas.tx.us.undernet.org:6662 ann-arbor.mi.us.undernet.org:6662 vancouver.bc.ca.undernet.org:6662 toronto.on.ca.undernet.org:6661 dublin.ie.eu.undermnet.org:6667 auckland.nz.undernet.org:6667 london.uk.eu.undernet.org:6667 Hope to see you all there :) -Rob On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Chad Zimmerman wrote: I have a #Debian channel on undernet for any that wish to go there. Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanner software recomendations ?
Contact gnu (http://www.gnu.org) and ask them what the progress is on their OCR thingy. Best Regards, Joe Hartmann Tel: (603) 863 6073 K2AJV -issued email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1951 home-page: http://www.sugar-river.net/~joeh - First Student at the: Linux Academy in the Sunshine Town of Newport, NH Thanks to RMS, Linus, and other contributors of free software! - I grant this to the public domain - On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote: Stan Brown wrote: I am looking for a software package to use to interface am HP scanner to my Debian system. Any recomendations? xvscan, but you have to pay for it. you can go to http://www.tummy.com/xvscan/Welcome.html to get more info. lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trying to build a custom kernel (xconfig)
Howdy, I am trying to build my self a custom kernel and I have run into a problem that is a bit annoying. To make my .config file, I ran 'make xconfig' and it crashed out with the following message. bash# make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/scripts' make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/drivers/sound mkscript make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/drivers/sound' Compiling Sound Driver v 3.5.5-beta1 for Linux rm -f configure gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/include -o configure configure.c ./configure script Config.in cat lowlevel/Config.tmpl Config.in ./configure fixedlocal local.h ./configure fixeddefines .defines make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/drivers/sound' ./tkparse ../arch/i386/config.in kconfig.tmp cat header.tk ./kconfig.tk cat kconfig.tmp kconfig.tk rm -f kconfig.tmp echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\ kconfig.tk cat tail.tk kconfig.tk chmod 755 kconfig.tk make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/scripts' wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server application-specific initialization failed: couldn't connect to display :0.0 invalid command name button while executing button .ref (file scripts/kconfig.tk line 26) make: *** [xconfig] Error 1 Now what is this noise about Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server? I know that I can just use 'make config' but that is boring and I think that this method should work. I also tried 'make menuconfig' and I crashed out of that as well with a much shorter message. bash# make menuconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts/lxdialog all make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/scripts/lxdialog' gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o In file included from lxdialog.c:22: dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 Again, I don't have to use this but I think it should, so I want to fix it. I ran 'dpkg --list' to find out if I had installed everything that I thought I would need to run a curses or tk/tcl program and I got this. ii ncurses-base1.9.9e-1 Video terminal manipulation: Minimum set of ii ncurses-bin 1.9.9e-1 Video terminal manipulation: associated prog ii ncurses-term1.9.9e-1 Video terminal manipulation: additional term ii ncurses3.0 1.9.9e-1 Video terminal manipulation: shared librarie ii tcl74 7.4p3-5The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.4 - Run-T ii tcl75 7.5p1-2The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.5 - Run-T ii tk404.0p3-5The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.0 - Run-Ti ii tk414.1p1-2The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.1 - Run-Ti Do I have everything I need? is there a document that I haven't read yet (I have read everything in /usr/src/kernel-sources-2.0.6)? Any clues at all? Sorry for the long post but I REALLY hate the Help my computer doesn't work posts. TIA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgres95(postmaster errors)
At 07:53 PM 1/10/97 -0600, you wrote: I installed postgres95 and postgres95-dev, and get this message when I try to start postmaster: postmaster: can't load library 'libbsd.so.1.0.0' so I look for libbsd and find a libbsd.a, so I make a symlink. Now when I run postmaster: postmaster: '/usr/lib/libbsd.so.1.0.0' is not an ELF file postmaster: can't load library 'libbsd.so.1.0.0' What can I do? Thanks, Walter L. Preuninger II I have had this exact same problem trying to run postgres. . . I assume that the libbsd is an older a.out file, butI have noidea where to find it in ELF format. Does anybody know where this file (libbsd.so.1.0.0) can be found/dl'd/ripped off? If that IS the problem, I'm not sure, but any help would be appreciated. -Budd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to build a custom kernel (xconfig)
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Kevin McEnhill wrote: I am trying to build my self a custom kernel and I have run into a problem that is a bit annoying. To make my .config file, I ran 'make xconfig' and it crashed out with the following message. bash# make xconfig Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server application-specific initialization failed: couldn't connect to display :0.0 Your desktop aka X11 display is owned by the person (uid) who started X11 via startx or who locked in via xdm. You try to do 'make xconfig' as root (uid=0). You have to allow this user to use the X11 Display. Just read the man page for xhost. Or try 'xhost +localhost' Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deselect_update_via_cdrom
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Richard Sevenich wrote: I recently updated from Debian 1.1.4 to Debian 1.2.1 using a CDROM supplied by Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I decided to update via dselect and would like to share my experience. Dale responded graciously to several of my questions to get me started. Here is the scenario: Richard is being over generous with his praise. I was highly distracted (cooking dinner) and, as I remember it, the gist of my response to him was a long winded version of you need a symlink somewhere. This analysis is very nice. Thank you Richard. I will be sure to include the stable link and change the non-free/binary-i386 to binary in the next release (1.2.3). For those using an earlier release, the following is a complete solution. 0. mount the cd; let's say '/cdrom' is the mount point 1. 'dpkg -i /cdrom/rex-fixed/binary-i386/base/ldso_1.8.5-1.deb' to satisfy a predepend for perl update 2. 'ln -sf /cdrom/rex-fixed /stable' 3. 'ln -sf /cdrom/contrib /contrib' 4. 'dselect' 5. Within dselect, choose mounted (Install from a mounted file system which is already mounted) as the access method - restrain yourself from choosing cdrom as the access method. 6. When dselect asks for distribution top level [none]', enter '/' 7. It will complain about not finding 'non-free/binary-i386', so enter 'cdrom/non-free/binary' - note no initial '/' 8. The cd didn't have a 'local', so at that point I entered 'none' 9. You'll now be admitted into the bowels of dselect to make your software selections etc. Some of the choices above seem non-intuitive/capricious, but I trundled down some blind paths before this worked for me - you may find a more sensible scenario. Regards, Richard Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to build a custom kernel (xconfig)
You seem to have everything you need for 'make xconfig' but you have to tell the X server that it's ok for your client program (wish) to connect to it. Try 'export DISPLAY=:0' before 'make xconfig'. If it still won't work and I guess it won't, you have to use command 'xhost + localhost' as the user that started X. This adds your host to the list of hosts that are allowed to connect to your X server. I assume that you didn't run X as root but did eg. 'su -' to gain root privileges. The problem with 'make menuconfig' is that although you have ncurses libraries and all the other ncurses stuff, you don't have ncurses3.0-dev package that has 'ncurses.h' in it. I guess you also have the package 'kernel-package' that contains helpful scripts etc. to make building kernels in Debian easier. If not, check that 'misc' sections in stable or unstable. // Heikki -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * http://www.cs.tut.fi/~hessu/ Tampere, Finland -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minor help with X
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named 800x600 (--) SVGA: Removing mode 800x600 from list of valid modes. ... [XF86Config:] Section Monitor HorizSync 31.5 - 35.1 VertRefresh 50-70 Here is the problem; the HorizSync range is too small. The 800x600 and 1024x768 modes have the following hsyncs [quoted from the same XF86Config]: # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync So, change that HorizSync to HorizSync 31.5 - 35.6 or something (see your monitor's specifications if you have them; but if 800x600 works in SVGAlib (or DOS), setting that HorizSync should be safe), and it should work. Section Screen Subsection Display Modes 640x480 800x600 1024x768 And here, the first mode in this Modes list is the mode that X starts by default; but you can cycle between them all with Ctrl-Alt-+ (the + key on the numeric keypad). (On a more general note, I've always thought that There is no mode definition named xxx is not an informative error message when the real `error' is that the mode definition was deleted because it didn't fit the monitor's specifications (HorizSync, VertRefresh). But I guess we'd need to talk to the XFree86 folks about that.) -- -=- Rjs -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info sought for libc5-pic package
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Tom Fawcett wrote: Can anyone give me information about the libc5-pic package? There appear to be no docs distributed with it, and the FAQ for libc5 doesn't mention it either. It's used to create the base disks, along with ncurses3.0-pic. Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Arghh.. Problems with install.
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Andrew Martin Adrian Cater wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Troy M. Lubbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Alright, I'm attempting to install Debian. (That's good right?) Well, I've encountered my first problem. When I boot with the Rescue disk, I get all the error messages probes etc, that it's supposed to do. Then it comes to what I'm sure it's not supposed to do. When it gets to the point where it says RAMDISK:Compressed image found at block 0 it then continues with these error messages Couldn't get a free page. out of memoryVFS:mounted root(minix filesystem) init:cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' is corrupt and then NOTHING. That's it frozen solid. Ctrl-Alt-Delete reboots and if you leave it in it does the same exact thing. I've tried using different disks to no avail, they all seem to do it. I've got a 386DX/33 manufactured by Zeos computers. With 4M RAM and a 130MB ST1144AT HD. Mediavision Jazz chipset based soundcard integrated with a Future domain TMC8XX SCSI controller and 2x CD-ROM. The error message is the same whether or not I include the boot flag tmc8xx=0xce000,11 or not. I also have a Diamond Stealth VRAM SVGA card. 1.44 and 1.2 meg floppies. The boot images I'm using are from ftp.debian.org and are the most current set at this time, I downloaded 'em just tonight. Any insights into the problem would be appreciated, maybe someone else has had a similar experience. I had the same with 1.2 install disks: I had managed an install in 4M with 1.1 equivalents. Sounds like you're out of memory: I cured the problem by adding a scrap 4M of memory: there may be other ways round this (turning off ramdisks ) -- Andrew Martin Adrian Cater Well, adding more memory would be nice :) But I really don't want to throw more money into this old thing. Now, I misunderstood you on one point here. On v1.1 you were able to manage an install in 4M or was it 8M because you added 4M extra? If you did it with 4 that's probably what I'll do, just install 1.1, but if I have to use 8M Well I don't think that's gonna happen and I guess I'll just install a Slackware distribution or something I know that'll install in 4M. I was led to believe by the documentation though, that installation would work fine in 4, you'd just have to start a swap partition before continuing very far. Which is how Slackware does it, since that's what I've used before. I guess I'd be interested in hearing how other people have made it work, or IF they have made it work. Thanks -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shadow Package
Hi All, I have been trying to install the Shadow package with 'dselect' but I cannot seem to find it. Although I see it on ftp.debian.org in the project/experimental dir I can't seem to make 'dselect' go there. Any ideas on what I am not doing right? BTW, I am trying to nstall it with the 'ftp' option. Thanks. | Darren Klein | Internet Service Providers | (718) 962-1725 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED]| (718) 962-1708 fax | | New World Data |http://www.nwdc.com | Telnet: nwdc.com | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
syslog errors
Last night while trying to figure out why cron was not starting up, there were no S89cron files in /etc/rc[2-5].d, something happened to my syslog. Now all I get is Jan 12 13:39:47 walterp kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jan 12 13:39:47 walterp syslogd 1.3-0#11: restart. Jan 12 13:39:47 walterp syslogd: select: Bad file number Jan 12 13:40:17 walterp last message repeated 140355 times I cant find anything wrong with /etc/syslog.conf, and finally have my system set up the way I like, so I dont want to reload. Please help! Thanks, Walter L. Preuninger II -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PnP modem under Debian
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Goldschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone have any experience getting a US Robotics Sportster 28.8-33.6 PnP modem to work with linux? Or any PnP modem for that matter. I've done all the common setup stuff for the modem. I found that if I want to use the modem under NT, I have to disable PnP in my bios. But if I do this for linux it changes nothing. -Jay The USR PnP modems have a unique feature in that they actually have jumpers. You should be able to turn a USR PnP modem into a conventional one just by jumpering.. Good luck! - Peter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shadow-suite?
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Fabien Ninoles wrote: is there a shadow-suite package available for Debian? I couldn't find it in my distribution. Look in project/experimental/, they are there except for the xdm-shadow who was already in xbase. I tried getting there with dselect and the ftp option. I could not enter the dir. When it asks for the distriubtion I tried experimental, project , contrib, unstable. Any ideas? | Darren Klein | Internet Service Providers | (718) 962-1725 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED]| (718) 962-1708 fax | | New World Data |http://www.nwdc.com | Telnet: nwdc.com | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gcc can't find headers
I've been trying to bridge over to C++ and tried to compile my first program using gcc, but #include iostream.h didn't work. The compiler couldn't find the standard headers. I've looked on my system and they reside in /usr/i386-unknown-cygwin32/lib/g++-include. I tried using the -I switch to no avail. I know next to nothing about the gcc compiler. Any help would be appreciated. By the way, it does compile C programs without a hitch. Thanks Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to put things to be satrted at bootup ?
Stan == Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stan Where is the debian correct place to put things that Stan need to be starrted up a boot time, such as rwhod? I believe rwhod is started by /etc/init.d/netstd_misc. -- Nathan L. Cutler Linux Enthusiast http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~nlc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Arghh.. Problems with install.
Troy M. Lubbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'd be interested in hearing how other people have made it work, or IF they have made it work. Thanks Debian installed fine on my system here, with 4Meg. When you start the disks, it informed that it would be wise to START by making a swap partition before going any further. As 4Meg was running it a little too narrow. I initialized a swap partition, 20Meg... and it gave me no problems. -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc can't find headers
I've been trying to bridge over to C++ and tried to compile my first program using gcc, but #include iostream.h didn't work. The compiler couldn't find the standard headers. I've looked on my system and they reside in /usr/i386-unknown-cygwin32/lib/g++-include. I tried using the -I switch to no avail. I know next to nothing about the gcc compiler. Any help would be appreciated. By the way, it does compile C programs without a hitch. You need to install the packages libg++27_2.7.2.1-3.deb and libg++27-dev_2.7.2.1-2.deb. The headers that you have are for the cross-compiler win32 version of gcc. Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222 IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems. (fwd)
On 12 Jan 1997, James LewisMoss wrote: Go to the diald web site and get the patch. It has a bug that once it takes ot down once it won't bring it back up. The patch fixes it. (Is running fine on my machine) The new diald site is unreachable right now. Would you mind mailing the patch. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1001 E. Arapaho Road (972) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
16 bpp and 1280 x 1024
Thanks to help from the list I now have 16 bitplanes. However now I cannot use the higher resolutions anymore. Is it really not possible with 4 mb. Here is the xdm-errors: XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100) Release Date: Oct 26 1996 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux [ELF] Configured drivers: S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) s3_ViRGE (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) XKB: model: pc101 (**) XKB: layout: dk (**) Mouse: type: MouseMan, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 9600 (**) S3: Graphics device ID: Primary Card (**) S3: Monitor ID: Primary Monitor (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi (--) S3: PCI: ViRGE rev 6, Linear FB @ 0xf400 (--) S3: card type: PCI (--) S3: chipset: ViRGE rev. 61 (**) S3: chipset driver: s3_virge (--) S3: videoram: 4096k (--) S3: Ramdac type: s3_trio64 (--) S3: Ramdac speed: 135 (--) S3: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 70.000 MHz) (--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz (--) S3: Clock for mode 1280x1024 is too high for the configured hardware. Limit is 80.000 MHz (--) S3: Removing mode 1280x1024 from list of valid modes. (--) S3: Clock for mode 1152x864 is too high for the configured hardware. Limit is 80.000 MHz (--) S3: Removing mode 1152x864 from list of valid modes. (--) S3: Clock for mode 1024x768 is too high for the configured hardware. Limit is 80.000 MHz (--) S3: Removing mode 1024x768 from list of valid modes. (**) S3: Mode 800x600: mode clock = 50.000 (**) S3: Mode 640x480: mode clock = 31.500 (**) S3: Mode 640x400: mode clock = 25.180 (**) S3: Mode 480x300: mode clock = 29.950 (**) S3: Mode 400x300: mode clock = 25.000 (**) S3: Mode 320x240: mode clock = 15.750 (**) S3: Mode 320x200: mode clock = 12.590 (**) S3: Using 16 bpp. Color weight: 565 etc. I have tried to read the manual more than once ! Can anyone help Michael -- Associate professor Michael Gajhede, Department of Chemistry, Universitetsparken 5, Copenhagen University, 2100 Copenhagen Denmark. tlf 45-35320280, fax 45-35320299 internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rescue Disk Help
Hi, i'm trying to reinstall Debian on my machine but i seem to be having a problem with the rex-fixed vertion of the resq1440.bin file. i've downloaded it off ftp.debian.org and also tried places like uiarchive and ftp.cdrom.com. After I write the image to a disk (w/rawrite2) and reboot it goes though: loading root.bin, and then gets to: loading linux.bin.. Then the system reboots. I've tried at least 15 disks. and every time i get the same result. I can boot my old v1.1 boot.bin disk just fine. If anyone can help me with this problem i'd greatly appreciate it! Here's my system. Compudyne Pentium 60 40 Megs of ram BIOS v1.2R1.6 (if more info would help just let me know.) Thanks a lot, -Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dselect suggestions: mailing list created
Pete Templin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : If any one else wishes to provide this service (in a more standard There is a mailinglist debian-admintool@lists.debian.org which works just as any other Debian mailing-list (if you don't know what this means, it's the wrong list for you). Please keep the traffic low on this list in the following sense: Over the past 2 years I've seen 99.99% good suggestions in this business. Only 0.01% (or less) code. That's the reason why we do not have a better dselect today: nobody actually got his fingers on the keyboard and implemented it. Did you now that the problem is just that easy? Yes, we all agree that dselect should be improved. We agreed about it 1 year ago, too. So please nobody wastes his time by making good suggestions. We need coders, nothing else. I warn you: if you are serious about coding, you will need _much_ time. It's far more work than one usally expects because you will have to program something which suits everyone: package maintainers, first time newbies and experts. Not to forget writing documentation, signing up long-time responsibility for the tool ... I estimate the workload at about 8h/week. -Winfried -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
Thanks very much for you help, Philippe. As requested, I've included my configuration files throughout the message below. I hope this helps in figuring out what my problem is. (I've stripped out my username passwords from the files) TIA, Kevin However, NO MATTER WHAT I DO across the connection, diald kills it after only about 30 seconds of uptime. In other words, even if I start a telnet or ftp session, I hardly manage to get connected to the remote site and diald drops the connection and my session hangs. Of course, with these connection-oriented utilities, I've got to start over again when I get reconnected. However, if I run a connection-less utility like ping, it'll ping merrily along for 30 seconds until diald kills the connection and then wait until diald again re-establishes it again. Do you know why diald terminates the connection ? If you've got `debug 31', diald should output a shitload of messages (in /var/log/messages). Would you give us an excerpt ? Here you go. This is just a piece of it. The only thing I can see why the connection is terminated is at line 9:58:50 below. But it doesn't explain why This section is from running /etc/init.d/diald start: Jan 9 09:56:58 sally diald[3243]: Using fifo /var/lib/diald/diald.fifo Jan 9 09:56:58 sally diald[3243]: Starting diald version 0.14 Jan 9 09:56:59 sally diald[3243]: Proxy device established on interface sl0 Jan 9 09:57:07 sally diald[3243]: Setting pointopoint route for sl0 Jan 9 09:57:07 sally diald[3243]: Establishing routes for sl0 Jan 9 09:57:07 sally diald[3243]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Jan 9 09:57:07 sally diald[3243]: Changed snoop device to sl0 Jan 9 09:57:07 sally diald[3243]: Diald initial setup completed. Note 3 lines up the message I get if I try to enable proxyarp? I've no idea why this happens Below is a diald session started when I ran ping www.microsoft.com. The first line is a call to my nameserver to resolve the IP address for Microsoft. Jan 9 09:57:18 sally diald[3243]: filter accepted rule 24 proto 17 len 68 packet 127.0.0.2,1140 = 204.244.210.2,53 Jan 9 09:57:19 sally diald[3243]: Running connect (pid = 3431). Jan 9 09:57:20 sally pppd[3431]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: timeout set to 3 seconds Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: abort on (\nBUSY\r) Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: abort on (\nNO ANSWER\r) Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: abort on (\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r) Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: send (rAT^M) Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: expect (OK) Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: rAT^M^M Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: OK -- got it Jan 9 09:57:20 sally chat[3433]: send (ATH0^M) Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: timeout set to 30 seconds Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: expect (OK) Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: ^M Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: ATH0^M^M Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: OK -- got it Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: send (ATDT795-2970^M) Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: expect (CONNECT) Jan 9 09:57:21 sally chat[3433]: ^M Jan 9 09:57:23 sally diald[3243]: filter accepted rule 24 proto 17 len 68 packet 127.0.0.2,1141 = 204.244.210.2,53 Jan 9 09:57:38 sally chat[3433]: ATDT795-2970^M^M Jan 9 09:57:38 sally chat[3433]: CONNECT -- got it Jan 9 09:57:38 sally chat[3433]: send (^M) Jan 9 09:57:38 sally chat[3433]: expect (ogin:) Jan 9 09:57:38 sally chat[3433]: 28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M Jan 9 09:57:48 sally chat[3433]: Uniserve PRI access server (Chilliwack)^M Jan 9 09:57:48 sally chat[3433]: ^M Jan 9 09:57:48 sally chat[3433]: ^M Jan 9 09:57:48 sally chat[3433]: Login: -- got it Jan 9 09:57:48 sally chat[3433]: send (MYUSERNAME^M) Jan 9 09:57:48 sally chat[3433]: expect (ssword:) Jan 9 09:57:49 sally chat[3433]: MYUSERNAME^M Jan 9 09:57:49 sally chat[3433]: Password: -- got it Jan 9 09:57:49 sally chat[3433]: send (MYPASSWORD^M) Jan 9 09:57:49 sally pppd[3431]: Serial connection established. Jan 9 09:57:50 sally pppd[3431]: Using interface ppp0 Jan 9 09:57:50 sally pppd[3431]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0 Jan 9 09:57:51 sally diald[3243]: filter accepted rule 24 proto 17 len 63 packet 127.0.0.2,1142 = 204.244.210.2,53 Jan 9 09:57:53 sally pppd[3431]: local IP address 204.244.143.139 Jan 9 09:57:53 sally pppd[3431]: remote IP address 204.244.143.6 At this point, my ping is merely going along sending pings and receiving responses from www.microsoft.com. Then, 57 seconds later (I originally estimated this to be 30 seconds), I get the following. One thing I find interesting about it is that no filter accepted rules appear at this time - only after the connection is terminated. Then, I get more accepted packets and the connection is re-established Jan 9 09:58:50 sally diald[3243]: Connect script timed out. Killing script. Jan 9 09:58:50 sally diald[3243]: Sending SIGINT to (dis)connect
routing
hello all. I have TWO Debian boxes sitting side by side (plus more, but they aren't hooked up as of yet) My problem is: When DIALD is running, nothing works over ethernet. If I run TCPDUMP, I can see traffic going OUT, and I can see the other box sending data, but not as a response per se. Machine with modem is a P133 box running the latest diald from bo, (have never been able to get it to work, with any available diald version) it has a 33.6k modem that I use to get onto the Internet with. On the other debian box, I have nothing except ethernet, for a connection to the outside world. If DIALD is running, the other machine won't answer ICMP echo requests, or anything else. If diald is disabled, ethernet works ok. I can only attribute it to routing configuration error, or diald just not allowing things to work. I've posted this question several times to the list. I know that there has to be a way for this to work, because my former roommate had it on his server this way. (I can't get a hold of him... he skipped town) Could someone please give me a hand on this one. I'm very desperate and frustrated. I've read all I can find on the subject of diald+ethernet. TIA -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.southeast.net/~servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emergency action
im curious, being not so familiar with debian as i am with solaris, if i somehow edit a file which on reboot, prevents my debian box from rebooting, is there a way to get back into the box and edit out my changes? For instance, on a solaris machine i just stick my boot disk/cd in, when it gets to the configuration screen i can cntrl break out of it into a shell and hack around at will, is this possible on a debian box? thanks No physician can give health and happiness to the man who enjoys his affliction. For such a man health and happiness are always contradictory. The Singer -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
