Re: Directory permissions.

1997-04-29 Thread wb2oyc

On 13:28:43 Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
>Using the correct tools is important.  David gives you one such tool - I
>personally type the following command in the directory I wish to copy:
>"find . -print | cpio -p /target".  This is of course a simplification;
>find and cpio have a lot of powerful options, and people will argue the 
>merits of tar vs. cpio all day.  It works for me.  At any rate, mc is not
>up to the task.
>
For an even more precise duplicate of a directory hierarchy I've used
this:

find . -depth | cpio -pdmv /target

This will create an exact duplicate and traverse any sub-dir's, preserving
symlinks, permissions, and dates of everything from the current directory
down thru the tree.  I've used this many times moving an entrie filesystem
such as /usr from one partition to another, etc.  Works slick.  It is also true
that the newer GNU tar offers the same functionality as well.  But, I've used
this so often, that I simply trust it implicitly.

Paul


>> > system structure standards.  I don't remember if it gave ownerships but
>> > it's worth a shot if someone knows what it's called and where I can find
>> > it.
>> 
>> No, it's far too short to cover ownerships, only locations. The 1.2 FSS
>> doesn't give it's own location(!), but only that of its FAQ which is
>> ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/docs/linux-standards/fsstnd/FSSTND-FAQ
>> 
>
>I concur.  You're in for an install  - I can smile cos I've bombed
>my machines a few times.
>
>> P.S. I don't see multiple copies of your postings here.
>
>Nor do I.
>
>Nathan
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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Graeme Stewart
Colin Telmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote:
> > 
> > > At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
> > > >i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
> > > >i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> > > >the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> > > >sure there is a better way.
> > > >
> > > >any ideas?
> > > 
> > > Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:
> > > 
> > > clear > /etc/motd
> > > 
> > > However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
> > > then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.
> > > 
> > Well, actually adding clear to motd will cause the screen to clear after
> > the login has been entered. If you want a clean screen after every logout
> > this should go into /etc/issue. The way I did this was:
> > 
> > cd to /tmp (or some other reasonable place)
> > clear >temp1
> > cp /etc/issue ./temp2
> > cat temp1 temp2 >issue
> > cp issue /etc/issue
> > 
> > After which a logout clears the screen.
> 
> I  first wanted to do this when I began using linux years ago and thought
> the solution was quite simple - edit /etc/issue and add 40 or so blank
> lines before what ever you want displayed with the login. That might be
> too simple though:) Cheers, Colin.
> 
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Has no one got any editors installed? I seem to recall they make these
jobs a bit easier... :)

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Re: help with printing, please...

1997-04-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> Just type "command > lpr". Replace command with the command you want print
> the output of.  This will send the output to lpr (printer).  You can also
> look at .xsession-errors (in home dir) and xdm-errors in the /var/log dir,
> depending on what you are doing and at what point you get the errors.

Of course you mean "command | lpr". Note that this requires the
installation
of the lpr package.
 
> Just play with combo's of the above and you will get all the errors.  Also
> read the man page on the command and see if you can increase debugging
> with an arg (-d or --debug normally).
> 
> On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, smorrill wrote:
> 
> > sorry, this is a second request...
> >
> > Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen
> > to the printer?  I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of
> > error messages.  I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to
> > address the problems without having to write everything down...  As is
> > obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in
> > the thrashing around stages.
> >
> > I'm using Debian Release 1.2 on a 586 / 133 mhz coexisting with
> > winbloze95... I can't even get my ppp stuff going yet so I have to still
> > use winbloze to connect to the 'net.. I'm so ashamed!!  :(


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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
I'm inherently lazy, and I hate typing.  All these solutions work, but
what's wrong with suing to root, typing 'vi /etc/issue', typing '!!clear'
and finishing off with a ':wq' ?? 

Just goes to show there's more than one way to do it. (I think that may be
trademarked by Larry Wall).

Nathan

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote:
> 
> > At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
> > >i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
> > >i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> > >the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> > >sure there is a better way.
> > >
> > >any ideas?
> > 
> > Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:
> > 
> > clear > /etc/motd
> > 
> > However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
> > then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.
> > 
> Well, actually adding clear to motd will cause the screen to clear after
> the login has been entered. If you want a clean screen after every logout
> this should go into /etc/issue. The way I did this was:
> 
>   cd to /tmp (or some other reasonable place)
>   clear >temp1
>   cp /etc/issue ./temp2
>   cat temp1 temp2 >issue
>   cp issue /etc/issue
> 
> After which a logout clears the screen.
> 
> Luck,
> 
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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Colin Telmer
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote:
> 
> > At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
> > >i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
> > >i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> > >the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> > >sure there is a better way.
> > >
> > >any ideas?
> > 
> > Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:
> > 
> > clear > /etc/motd
> > 
> > However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
> > then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.
> > 
> Well, actually adding clear to motd will cause the screen to clear after
> the login has been entered. If you want a clean screen after every logout
> this should go into /etc/issue. The way I did this was:
> 
>   cd to /tmp (or some other reasonable place)
>   clear >temp1
>   cp /etc/issue ./temp2
>   cat temp1 temp2 >issue
>   cp issue /etc/issue
> 
> After which a logout clears the screen.

I  first wanted to do this when I began using linux years ago and thought
the solution was quite simple - edit /etc/issue and add 40 or so blank
lines before what ever you want displayed with the login. That might be
too simple though:) Cheers, Colin.


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Re: debian_user mailing list vs newsgroup

1997-04-29 Thread Mike Horansky
(Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> mike horansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Using trn to thread articles is more convenient than using elm (a
> > GNUS-user tells me that its threading and searching are not as
> > good).
> 
> Gnus not as good at this as elm or trn... possible, but I'd be
> surprised.

As a mail-reader I'm sure gnus is more powerful than elm. I just like
elm's simplicity.

The most recent I've heard about gnus as a news-reader is that it
doesn't thread related articles as well as trn, nor is its searching
as good.


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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-29 Thread Alex Romosan
i just tried to make the modules by hand and then install them with
'make modules_install' (instead of using make-kpkg) and none of the
*_MODULES files were copied to /lib/modules/2.x.x. make-kpkg
explicitly copies these files to that directory (look in
/usr/lib/kernel-package/rules). i suspect the new depmod tests to see
if all the files in the modules subdirectories are elf objects and, if
they are not, crashes. it could be a bug in depmod, it should skip
non-elf objects, but then the *_MODULES files are not supposed to be
there in the first place. it's hard to say whose bug this really is,
but i think i would go with make-kpgp (don't copy extra files where
they are not supposed to be in the first place just to be cute). so,
indeed, removing all the *_MODULES (including the one in misc) gets
depmod working again.

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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Karl Ferguson wrote:

> At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
> >i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
> >i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> >the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> >sure there is a better way.
> >
> >any ideas?
> 
> Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:
> 
> clear > /etc/motd
> 
> However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
> then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.
> 
Well, actually adding clear to motd will cause the screen to clear after
the login has been entered. If you want a clean screen after every logout
this should go into /etc/issue. The way I did this was:

cd to /tmp (or some other reasonable place)
clear >temp1
cp /etc/issue ./temp2
cat temp1 temp2 >issue
cp issue /etc/issue

After which a logout clears the screen.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: dselect for X?

1997-04-29 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 I strongly second Bob Nielsen's remarks.

Bob Hilliard

On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:14:38  Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> If a version of dselect is created for X, PLEASE let it be an option, not
> the only version.  Many of us have X-less installations and intend to keep
> it that way (I have both X and non-X machines).
> 
> Bob


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Re: AccelX and Xfree together

1997-04-29 Thread Colin Telmer
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Chris Hanson wrote:

> You will need to install an XFree86 server in order to satisfy the
> package dependencies that require an X server.  Other than that, it's
> not important.  In the future, you will have to be careful not to
> update the XFree86 server package accidentally, because this will
> overwrite the AcceleratedX server.

Actually, it will not overwrite the AcceleratedX server, rather it will
just point the /usr/X11R6/bin/X link to the newly upgraded XFree86 server
(that may be what you meant), so whenever you upgrade XFree, all you will
need to do is to run /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/Xintall again to
recreate the proper link.

However, the reason I am replying to this note is regarding xdm. I always
use xdm and I have found that when you upgrade XFree, the server listed in
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers is removed and you must put it back in by hand so
that xdm can start the server. I was somewhat confused about this at one
point so I thought I would pass it along. Cheers, Colin.




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Re: New Hard Disk

1997-04-29 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine
Syd --

Looks like you can use the "cp" command with the "--archive" option (see "cp" 
man page).

What you need to do is, after you place a linux filesystem on the partition 
with "mke2fs",
mount that partition under the generic mount-point directory "/mnt":

mount /dev/hd?? /mnt

Then, copy everything from /usr/lib onto the partition:

cp --archive /usr/lib /mnt

Once you're sure everything has been copied and is intact, erase everything 
under /usr/lib:

rm -r /usr/lib/*

Then umount the partition, and remount it under /usr/lib

umount /mnt
mount /dev/hd?? /usr/lib

Be sure to place the necessary data in your /etc/fstab file so that the 
partition gets
mounted at boot time from now on (/etc/fstab format is self-explanatory).

Drop me a line if you have problems, or this procedure doesn't work out (be 
sure to
back up your files before doing this!).

Hope it works! :-)

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Re: help with printing, please...

1997-04-29 Thread Graeme Stewart
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> 
> Just type "command > lpr". Replace command with the command you want print

That should be "command | lpr". Otherwise you'll just get a file
called `lpr', which of course one could print :)

Graeme

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Re: upgrade to debian 1.3

1997-04-29 Thread joost witteveen
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> ...
> >I'm not sure there was actually an error in the above lynx install
> >session (appart from the possibly wrong error message)
> ...  If the
> >lock  is  held by someone else, this call returns
> >-1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.
> >
> >So, probably I should also test for EACCES. (why doesn't dpkg does this?)
> 
> Perhaps dpkg mmaps the file, so it always gets EAGAIN.

No, it doesn't (read the code I showed, and you'll see that
errno excactly is not EAGAIN, that's what I test for).


> Anyway,  I had this error while dpkg was installing hdimage for dosemu. 
> Everything got installed fine, so the error message is in error. :)

update-menus wasn't run, that's all (very slight error).

> You probably should log messages via syslog so that they don't mess
> with output from foreground jobs.

Fortunatly I didn't, as otherwise people never would see when it happens.
I am glad I now at least know that the fcntl() call also  can give
something else than EWOULDBLOCK or EAGAIN (that's what these
messages prove), I'll just go and check what the other thing
is (probably it's EACCES).

>  AFA I can see open() should block
> until dpkg run is complete

The fd=open(DPKG_LOCKFILE, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0660);
call above doesn't block. (otherwise, none of the messages above
would appear!).

> -- the only test I can think of is to poll 
> with non-blocking open() and see if it makes any difference.

So this is not needed.

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Re: help with printing, please...

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones

Just type "command > lpr". Replace command with the command you want print
the output of.  This will send the output to lpr (printer).  You can also
look at .xsession-errors (in home dir) and xdm-errors in the /var/log dir,
depending on what you are doing and at what point you get the errors.

Just play with combo's of the above and you will get all the errors.  Also
read the man page on the command and see if you can increase debugging
with an arg (-d or --debug normally).


On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, smorrill wrote:

> sorry, this is a second request...
>  
> Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen
> to the printer?  I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of
> error messages.  I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to
> address the problems without having to write everything down...  As is
> obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in
> the thrashing around stages.
>  
> I'm using Debian Release 1.2 on a 586 / 133 mhz coexisting with
> winbloze95... I can't even get my ppp stuff going yet so I have to still
> use winbloze to connect to the 'net.. I'm so ashamed!!  :(
>  
>  TIA
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Invalid NBT Packets?

1997-04-29 Thread Tommy van Leeuwen
hello,

I've been modding around with samba and winnt4. Samba works, nothing wrong
with that, but when i say smbmount it fucks up and displays: "Invalid NBT
Packet". Is this some weird misconfiguration in Linux or just another bug
in Windowze NT? ;)

Thanks for any.

Tom


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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dima wrote:
> >The problem was avoided by removing the *_MODULES files.
> 
> Didn't work here.  What version of kernel/ld.so/(what else?) are you
> using?
> 
> Dimitri

When I compiled my first kernel, it was out of necessity for another
machine, so I couldn't use the "install" parts of make. The installation
had left these *_MODULES files on the first machine, and I fretted over
how to get them into the right places on my target machine.

Nowadays when I'm compiling kernels (on the target machines themselves), I
notice that I never end up with any of these files in my /lib/modules.

I can't find anything about them in all the documentation I've read. Does
anybody know what they are, or where they are documented?
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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-29 Thread Clint Adams
> Didn't work here.  What version of kernel/ld.so/(what else?) are you
> using?

Did you remove misc/NET_MISC_MODULES or whatever it is?

I'm using kernel 2.0.30
  modutils 2.1.34
  ldso 1.9.2 (though I was using something like 1.8.10 at the time).


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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Ryan" == Ryan Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ryan> i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer
Ryan> as of yet.  i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the
Ryan> login prompt to appear at the top.  i've worked around this
Ryan> by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm sure there is a better
Ryan> way.

 See if this works:

$ su root
# cd /etc
# mv issue issue.body
# TERM=linux tput clear > issue.clear
# cat issue.clear > issue
# cat issue.body >> issue
# exit
$



issue
Description: Sample /etc/issue with clear screen and figlet logo.


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Re: help!

1997-04-29 Thread The Gardyan
I don't know if this is an option for you but I installed sendmail instead
of smail for my debian system and have not regretted that decision.

Personally I think sendmail is better.

my two cents.


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Re: dead end?

1997-04-29 Thread Dale Martin
Larry James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,

[ snip ]

> and when I run dselect or dpkg, I get lots of error messages. The most
> significant seem to be "bash: command install not found", and
> ...configure not found". Where should these commands be? It's kind of a
> pickle because I don't see how to add anything if there's no install
> command - but how did everything else get installed???

[ snip ]

> Any ideas would be appreciated!

There is a link missing from one of the perl packages.  Go look at one
of the files that "it says is missing."  It's actually there - for
instance, do a "which install-info" as root, and it will say
"/usr/sbin/install-info".  If you look at first line that file, you
will see that it is a perl script.  If you go look for /usr/bin/perl,
then my guess is it's not there.  So, make a soft link from
perl5. to perl.  (Someone correct if this is a bad solution,
please.  It's what I did!)

So, do a:
cd /usr/bin
ln -s perl5.00307 perl

(as root of course, and this assumes your perl5 binary is perl5.00307)

> Larry James

This bug, and xbase not putting /usr/X11R6/lib into ld.so.conf seem to
be the biggest of Debian 1.2.  (They are pretty big bugs, IMHO, but
with this list or a decent knowledge of linux, not TOO hard to figure
out.)

Later,
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Re: Directory permissions.

1997-04-29 Thread Christian Hudon
On Apr 29, Nathan E Norman wrote
> 
> On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote:
> > 
> > > [ description of problem ]
> > > 
> > > I did this to avoid a full install when I repartitioned since I have no
> > > backup system and have installed from ftp.  Somebody out there must have a
> > > good way to reset my ownerships.
> > 
> > Well, the /easiest/ way might just be to copy the files in one of the
> > correct manners, overwriting both them and their ownerships. For example,
> > tar to stdout and pipe it to stdin of another tar with --save-permissions 
> > and --save-owners (done as root).
> 
> Using the correct tools is important.  David gives you one such tool - I
> personally type the following command in the directory I wish to copy:
> "find . -print | cpio -p /target".  This is of course a simplification;
> find and cpio have a lot of powerful options, and people will argue the 
> merits of tar vs. cpio all day.  It works for me.  At any rate, mc is not
> up to the task.

Or, since Debian has GNU cp, I simply use "cp -a". It preserves
everything. (The 'a' stands for archive.)

You might want this as a bug report against mc, though. If it said
'preserve' in the menu, IMHO it should preserve both files and
directories's permissions.

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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-29 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory
>
>The problem was avoided by removing the *_MODULES files.

Didn't work here.  What version of kernel/ld.so/(what else?) are you
using?

Dimitri


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Re: upgrade to debian 1.3

1997-04-29 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
...
>I'm not sure there was actually an error in the above lynx install
>session (appart from the possibly wrong error message)
...  If the
>lock  is  held by someone else, this call returns
>-1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.
>
>So, probably I should also test for EACCES. (why doesn't dpkg does this?)

Perhaps dpkg mmaps the file, so it always gets EAGAIN.

Anyway,  I had this error while dpkg was installing hdimage for dosemu. 
Everything got installed fine, so the error message is in error. :)
You probably should log messages via syslog so that they don't mess
with output from foreground jobs.  AFA I can see open() should block
until dpkg run is complete -- the only test I can think of is to poll 
with non-blocking open() and see if it makes any difference.

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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Karl Ferguson wrote:
> 
> At 12:32 PM 29/04/97 -0400, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
> >mgetty, agetty & mingetty use /etc/issue (by default, though this
> >is of course configurable for mgetty and agetty) rather than motd.
> >(I wonder what uses /etc/motd?) So, you can run (as root, of course):
> >
> >clear >> /etc/issue
> >
> >(no need to save original issue, as ">>" appends to the file rather
> >than writing over it).
> 
> This won't work right - >> appends to the end of the file and what'll
> happen is that the issue will spit out and then clear with "name login: "
> 

Ah yes, very important! Rather:

(clear; cat /etc/issue) > /etc/issue.new ; mv /etc/issue.new /etc/issue

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dead end?

1997-04-29 Thread Larry James
Hi,

I've gotten bogged down with my installation of debian, could really use
some hints to get me going again.

I have a working system, i boot off a floppy and can log in, cruise my
directories, even run the c compiler. There are a few things missing,
and when I run dselect or dpkg, I get lots of error messages. The most
significant seem to be "bash: command install not found", and
...configure not found". Where should these commands be? It's kind of a
pickle because I don't see how to add anything if there's no install
command - but how did everything else get installed???

I had to download everything via ftp because of some problem with my
CDROM. ( I have the infomagic 6-CD set but could not successfully
install any of the 3 distributions!)

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Larry James


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cdwrite / hybrid cd's

1997-04-29 Thread Steve Hsieh

Is there any way to make a hybrid CD on Linux?  I guess cdwrite just
writes an image file onto the CD, so the question is if it is possible to
create that hybrid (mac / iso) file?

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AccelX and Xfree together

1997-04-29 Thread Chris Hanson
   Date:Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:39:43 +0100 (BST)
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Skreeg)

   I`ve just got hold of AccelX2.1 but already have xbase installed for
   Debian1.2.8 . Is it OK to install AccelX in as well as xbase? If not, 
   what happens to the dependancies on xbase?

This will work fine.  AcceleratedX is an X server, and will not work
unless the rest of XFree86 is present, so you must install xbase,
xfonts, etc. to use it.

You will need to install an XFree86 server in order to satisfy the
package dependencies that require an X server.  Other than that, it's
not important.  In the future, you will have to be careful not to
update the XFree86 server package accidentally, because this will
overwrite the AcceleratedX server.

The easiest thing to do is install an appropriate server from XFree86,
then install AcceleratedX.  (Use "xserver-vga16" if you can't find
anything better.)  AcceleratedX will rename "/usr/X11R6/bin/X" to
"/usr/X11R6/bin/X.LINUX" and install itself as "/usr/X11R6/bin/X".

One other thing to be careful of: you _must_ install the
"termcap-compat" package before installing AcceleratedX.  The
installation program depends on it, and if it isn't there, the
installation will fail without an error message.


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Problems with X fonts

1997-04-29 Thread Steve Preston
I have used the Dec 96 InfoMagic cd set to install Debian 1.2 on a
couple machines.  On one machine I had trouble installing X.  When
dselect was installing/configuring xfntbase, the program mkfontdir
printed a whole bunch of messages like this:

   mkfontdir: unable to process font ./5x7.pcf.Z, skipping

and mkfontdir ended up dumping core.  Later, I was able to run X -probeonly,
but when I tried to really run the X server, it complained about not
being able to find the font 'fixed', and exited immediately.

I noticed that there are two versions of xbase, 3.2-1 and 3.2-1a.
There are also two versions of xlib6.  When dselect is in the install
step, I noticed that it says
--
Version 3.2-1a of xbase already installed, skipping.
Will not downgrade xbase from version 3.2-1a to 3.2-1, skipping.
--

but then later it says
--
Preparing to replace xlib6 3.2-1 (using .../x11/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xlib6 ...
Preparing to replace xlib6 3.2-1a (using .../x11/xlib6_3.2-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xlib6 ...
--

This is on the machine that has the problem.

Has anyone seen this problem?  Any advice?

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Re: help with printing, please...

1997-04-29 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, smorrill, you wrote:
> 
> sorry, this is a second request...
>  
> Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen
> to the printer?  I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of
> error messages.  I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to
> address the problems without having to write everything down...  As is
> obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in
> the thrashing around stages.

Try using 'script', or, if you just have a virtual console with stuff
on it you want to print, you can say 'cat /dev/vcs1|lpr' if you were
on tty1, use vcs2 for tty2, etc

Tim

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Re: New Hard Disk

1997-04-29 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Syd Alsobrook wrote:

> I'm trying to add space to my system and all i have is a 170meg HD what I
> want to do is move everything from /usr/lib to the new HD and have the new
> drive mount at that point. I would like to have the move done in one
> command. is that posible or will i have to move the whole tree by hand?

Sure..  Mount the new partition under /mnt, then:

(get into single user mode)
cd /usr/lib
tar -cvO . | (cd /mnt ; tar -xpf - )
(Now check the files and perms under /mnt, and make sure it's ok)
cd /usr/lib (in case you left there...)
rm -rf *
cd ..
mount -t ext2 /dev/newpartition /usr/lib
(Now change your /etc/fstab accordingly)

Be careful!  Backup your data first!

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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 12:32 PM 29/04/97 -0400, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
>mgetty, agetty & mingetty use /etc/issue (by default, though this
>is of course configurable for mgetty and agetty) rather than motd.
>(I wonder what uses /etc/motd?) So, you can run (as root, of course):
>
>clear >> /etc/issue
>
>(no need to save original issue, as ">>" appends to the file rather
>than writing over it).

This won't work right - >> appends to the end of the file and what'll
happen is that the issue will spit out and then clear with "name login: "

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Re: mc..missing library!

1997-04-29 Thread A. M. Varon
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, smorrill wrote:

> mc: can't load library 'libgpm.so.1'

Install libgpm. 

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Re: help with printing, please...

1997-04-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
smorrill wrote:
> 
> sorry, this is a second request...
> 
> Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen
> to the printer?  I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of
> error messages.  I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to
> address the problems without having to write everything down...  As is
> obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in
> the thrashing around stages.
> 
> I'm using Debian Release 1.2 on a 586 / 133 mhz coexisting with
> winbloze95... I can't even get my ppp stuff going yet so I have to still
> use winbloze to connect to the 'net.. I'm so ashamed!!  :(
> 

Ok. Assuming you are printing via the standard (what would be LPT1
in Dos/Windows) parallel port and your printer is ok to print
plain ascii when it receives it: 1) Make sure you have parallel
port support in your kernel. I don't know if it is by default these
days. You can find out by doing 'cat /proc/devices'. You should see
a line under "Character devices:" which says 'X lp'. If so then
you're set with the kernel. Then, you should be able to print by
just directing the output from X into the device. You'll have to
make sure that the perms on the device allow writing by whoever
you're running as. If you use startx to run X, then you can type:

startx >/dev/lp1 2>&1

This should send all that diag info to the printer (although a
formfeed may be necessary if your printer won't print out the
last page until it receives this. Then you could do an

echo '\f' > /dev/lp1

To get the printer to spit out the page.

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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Troy Hanson
Karl Ferguson wrote:
> Sorry - my aplogies - I meant /etc/issue, hey it's 1am here :-)

At the top of my /etc/issue I put the ANSI Codes for home/clear:

^[[H^[[J  --> (ESC)[H(ESC)[J

you can get the ESC char in vi by hitting ctrl+V, then ESC.

Hope this helps
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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Karl Ferguson wrote:
> 
> At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
> >i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet.
> >i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> >the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> >sure there is a better way.
> >
> >any ideas?
> 
> Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:
> 
> clear > /etc/motd
> 
> However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
> then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.
> 

mgetty, agetty & mingetty use /etc/issue (by default, though this
is of course configurable for mgetty and agetty) rather than motd.
(I wonder what uses /etc/motd?) So, you can run (as root, of course):

clear >> /etc/issue

(no need to save original issue, as ">>" appends to the file rather
than writing over it).

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Re: fdisk problem - can't seek

1997-04-29 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine
Assuming you are using "cfdisk", the fdisk utility that is run as part of the
initial Debian installation (i.e. the 6 disks).

I had the same problem when I partitioned a large disk.  I particular I was
partitioning it into several logical partitions on the outer-most part
of the disk.  "cfdisk" did not like this and gave me the error you mentioned.

To solve this, what I had to do was "Execute a shell", which is the last item
on the debian installation sequence menu (i.e. the large menu you get when
performing an initial install, first item is "partition a hard disk, etc."

Then from the shell, I executed the old "fdisk" utility, which is a not-as-
nice-looking-but-sufficient precursor of "cfdisk".  It's use is self-explanatory
(type 'm' for help, etc.).

Incidentally, I was going to report this but forgot! :-(

Once you've partitioned with "fdisk" instead of "cfdisk", go back into the
Debian installation procedure by typing "exit" at the shell prompt.
DO NOT go into "partition a hard disk" at this point, since you've already
done it with fdisk, and you'll just get that cfdisk-error that you got
before.  Jusr move right on to the next step in installation.

Hope this works (did for me)!

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Re: upgrade to debian 1.3

1997-04-29 Thread joost witteveen
> On Apr 29, Danny ter Haar wrote
> > During the upgrade i saw the following message:
> > 
> > Update-menus: Dpkg is locking dpkg status area: forking to background
> > and wait for /var/lib/dpkg/lock to become unlocked.
> > Setting up lynx (2.7-2) ...
> > 
> > Configuration file `/etc/lynx.cfg'
> [...]
> >  The default action is to keep your current version.
> > *** lynx.cfg (Y/I/N/O/Z) [default=N] ? unable to lock dpkg status 
> > database(/var/lib/dpkg/lock)
> > This means your system is messed up badly. Aborting.
> 
> > Somebody can shed some light on this ?
> 
> Just a guess (Joost, please comment): update-menus is expensive to run
Yes, but that's not the main reason.

> This was done by some form of waiting until dpkg's
> lock was removed, and then locking it for update-menus. Your example shows
> that this does (unfortunately) not indicate that the dpkg run is complete,
> and that this interferes with normal dpkg operation.

To be more precise, I try to lock the dpkg file, and then
_immediately_ afterwards, unlock it:

 fd=open(DPKG_LOCKFILE, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0660);
  fl.l_type= F_WRLCK;
  fl.l_whence= SEEK_SET;
  fl.l_start= 0;
  fl.l_len= 1;
  if (fcntl(fd,F_SETLK,&fl) == -1) {
if (errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == EAGAIN)
  return 1;
cerr<<"unable to lock dpkg status database("DPKG_LOCKFILE")"< Maybe this is a solution: let update-menus use a lock file of its own to
> prevent concurrent runs, and have the single active run wait until dpkg's
> lock file is gone before doing the expensive operations?

update-menus acutally does have it's own lock file (/var/run/update-menus.pid).

The main reason why update-menus checks for a running dpkg is that
it has to know what packages are installed (to create the menu's
files). While dpkg is still running, it doesn't update the
/var/lib/dpkg/info/status file, and thus update-menus would see the
old status file (the one from before dpkg was started).

I'm not sure there was actually an error in the above lynx install
session (appart from the possibly wrong error message) Apparently, the
manpage for fcntl has:
   F_SETLK  The  lock  is  set  (when  l_type  is  F_RDLCK or
F_WRLCK) or cleared (when it is F_UNLCK).  If the
lock  is  held by someone else, this call returns
-1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.

So, probably I should also test for EACCES. (why doesn't dpkg does this?)

Anybody know more about this?


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Re: New Hard Disk

1997-04-29 Thread Eric Delaunay
Syd Alsobrook wrote:
> I'm trying to add space to my system and all i have is a 170meg HD what I
> want to do is move everything from /usr/lib to the new HD and have the new
> drive mount at that point. I would like to have the move done in one
> command. is that posible or will i have to move the whole tree by hand?
> Syd

Try
 cd /usr ; find lib -print | cpio -pd /mnt
or
 cp -a /usr/lib /mnt/lib
or
 ( cd /usr ; tar czf - lib ) | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvzf - )

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Re: problem: getting nfs up and running

1997-04-29 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael J Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to get nfs to allow my users on the client machines to have
>access to their home directories on the server.  I recently was given
>these helpful hints:
>
>>   Add this line to your server's export:
>>  /home  *.  (rw)
>>  Then reboot, or do /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start
>> 
>>   Add this line to your client's fstab:
>>  :/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,bg,intr
>>  Then do mount -a
>
>I did all this, and when I executed the nfs start, I got this message:
>Starting remote filesystem services:
>
>Notice that none of the "nfsd","mountd","ugidd", etc..., lines are being
>printed to the screen.  Am I missing a basic setup step?

Yes it should be "/etc/init.d/netstd_nfs reload". Otherwise no daemons
are restarted since they are ofcourse already running.

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New Hard Disk

1997-04-29 Thread Syd Alsobrook
I'm trying to add space to my system and all i have is a 170meg HD what I
want to do is move everything from /usr/lib to the new HD and have the new
drive mount at that point. I would like to have the move done in one
command. is that posible or will i have to move the whole tree by hand?
Syd

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RE: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 05:58 PM 29/04/97 +0100, Alec Clews wrote:
>I think /etc/issue might be a better choice 'cause it gets displayed by
>getty I believe

Sorry - my aplogies - I meant /etc/issue, hey it's 1am here :-)

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fdisk problem - can't seek

1997-04-29 Thread Alan Schrank
I'm trying to install debian (version 1.2.10 or so) on my new computer.  It is 
a Compaq presario 8772 with a 6.5 gig IDE drive.

I have partitioned it using partition magic to have 3 fat drives and an 
unpartitioned area for Linux and a Linux swap partition.

In the second step of the install (partition hard drive /dev/hda) I get a 
message from fdisk "Fatal error: cannot seek on disk drive. press any key to 
exit fdisk". 

 Any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks
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RE: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Alec Clews

>
>At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
>>i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
>>i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
>>the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
>>sure there is a better way.
>>
>>any ideas?
>
>Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:
>
>clear > /etc/motd
>
>However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
>then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.
>

I think /etc/issue might be a better choice 'cause it gets displayed by
getty I believe


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Re: upgrade to debian 1.3

1997-04-29 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Apr 29, Danny ter Haar wrote
> During the upgrade i saw the following message:
> 
> Update-menus: Dpkg is locking dpkg status area: forking to background
> and wait for /var/lib/dpkg/lock to become unlocked.
> Setting up lynx (2.7-2) ...
> 
> Configuration file `/etc/lynx.cfg'
[...]
>  The default action is to keep your current version.
> *** lynx.cfg (Y/I/N/O/Z) [default=N] ? unable to lock dpkg status 
> database(/var/lib/dpkg/lock)
> This means your system is messed up badly. Aborting.

> Somebody can shed some light on this ?

Just a guess (Joost, please comment): update-menus is expensive to run, so
it was modified not to run for each individual package install, but for each
dpkg install session. This was done by some form of waiting until dpkg's
lock was removed, and then locking it for update-menus. Your example shows
that this does (unfortunately) not indicate that the dpkg run is complete,
and that this interferes with normal dpkg operation.

Maybe this is a solution: let update-menus use a lock file of its own to
prevent concurrent runs, and have the single active run wait until dpkg's
lock file is gone before doing the expensive operations?

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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 09:50 AM 29/04/97 -0700, Ryan Shaw wrote:
>i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
>i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
>the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
>sure there is a better way.
>
>any ideas?

Best way (the way I do it) is to do this:

clear > /etc/motd

However, make sure you make a backup copy of your original MOTD so you can
then edit the file and after all the ascii characters put it back.

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clear screen on logout

1997-04-29 Thread Ryan Shaw
i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
sure there is a better way.

any ideas?


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help with printing, please...

1997-04-29 Thread smorrill
sorry, this is a second request...
 
Is there any way I can send what's actually showing on the on the screen
to the printer?  I'm trying to get XFree86 running and getting a lot of
error messages.  I'd like to be able to print these out so I can try to
address the problems without having to write everything down...  As is
obvious, I'm really new at this Linux stuff, so I'm still very much in
the thrashing around stages.
 
I'm using Debian Release 1.2 on a 586 / 133 mhz coexisting with
winbloze95... I can't even get my ppp stuff going yet so I have to still
use winbloze to connect to the 'net.. I'm so ashamed!!  :(
 
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problem: getting nfs up and running

1997-04-29 Thread Michael J Devine
I'm trying to get nfs to allow my users on the client machines to have
access to their home directories on the server.  I recently was given
these helpful hints:

>   Add this line to your server's export:
>   /home  *.  (rw)
>  Then reboot, or do /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start
> 
>   Add this line to your client's fstab:
>   :/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,bg,intr
>  Then do mount -a

I did all this, and when I executed the nfs start, I got this message:
Starting remote filesystem services:

Notice that none of the "nfsd","mountd","ugidd", etc..., lines are being
printed to the screen.  Am I missing a basic setup step?

Thanks in Advance...

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mc..missing library!

1997-04-29 Thread smorrill
I have debian release 1.2 installed on my 586/133mhz.  I'm just learning
how to move around in this system as I have no linux experience.  When I
try to start midnight commander, I get the following message:
 
mc: can't load library 'libgpm.so.1'
 
When I try to locate libgpm.so.1 using find, I can't find it. Under
/usr/lib/ I do find 'libgdbm.so.1'.  Is this the file I'm actually
looking for, like an updated version or something?  Or is there a link
or something I need to make so mc can find the appropriate file?
 
My base system seems to be OK, however I'm getting similiar messages as
the above when I try to start some programs, or when I try to start
XFree86.  I loaded my packages off the cheapbytes cd, and I thought
everything was there...maybe I'm missing something or didn't link
some things that I was supposed to?
 
TIA!
 
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Re: Directory permissions.

1997-04-29 Thread Jim Pick

Rick Jones wrote:

> 1.  Is there an easy way to reset the permissions of my directories to
> what they should be?  Such as a program that I can exicute that will set
> them or go through and prompt me for the changes.

I'd suggest using the dpkgcert package by Klee Dienes - it scans
all of the files installed by packages and informs you of what files
have changed, and what files have different permissions/groups/owners.

I found it very useful and informative here.

I believe it is currently in experimental.  You will also need a
database of "package certificates" which contain the checksums.  Send
e-mail to Klee Dienes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to find out where to get these.

An alternative is do a "dpkg -c" on the original *.deb files to 
figure out the permissions.  Note that just reinstalling the
packages won't work, since dpkg -i doesn't replace old file
permissions with the new ones.

Cheers,

 - Jim

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Re: STL

1997-04-29 Thread David B. Teague

On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Clint Adams wrote:

> >   #include 
> >   #include 
> >   etc.

> Isn't this HP's STL rather than GNU's?

In point of fact, many of the files are unchanged HP implementations.
Many are also of completely GNU origin. Check it out.

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Re: broken installation

1997-04-29 Thread Jim Smith
David S. Jackson wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just installed a system using dselect and got about 40 packages that
> were broken; they installed but are unconfigured.  Mostly they have
> dependencies that were covered in multiple deb packages.  Libraries of
> other files of the same name were redundant in several packages.  What do
> you do in a case like this?
> 
I had that happen to me, I just went thru the stored files one by one
and did a "dpkg -i ***.deb" and wrote down the missing depends. It was
usualy one or two that were holding the whole thing up, something like
ncurses or libreadline or one of those. Installing them took care of
most of the problem. As your system gets more complete, you should not
encounter that problem.

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upgrade to debian 1.3

1997-04-29 Thread Danny ter Haar
During the upgrade i saw the following message:

---

Setting up libg++27-dev (2.7.2.1-9) ...

Update-menus: Dpkg is locking dpkg status area: forking to background
and wait for /var/lib/dpkg/lock to become unlocked.
Setting up lynx (2.7-2) ...

Configuration file `/etc/lynx.cfg'
 ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
 ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
  Z : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** lynx.cfg (Y/I/N/O/Z) [default=N] ? unable to lock dpkg status 
database(/var/lib/dpkg/lock)
This means your system is messed up badly. Aborting.

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Somebody can shed some light on this ?

Regards,

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ok with new kernel (was "who" says nothing about other users)

1997-04-29 Thread Eugene Sevinian

Compiling new kernel fixed this problem 
as well as few others.


> Doing some experiments with new kernel and modules I have noticed that
> 'who' does not work correct while the  "top"  reports about all other
> users.  Since my experiments are not finished yet I would like to know
> about other possible source of this problem. Is there any idea?

> Thanks in advance,

> Eugene Sevinian



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AccelX and Xfree together

1997-04-29 Thread Brian Skreeg

I`ve just got hold of AccelX2.1 but already have xbase installed for
Debian1.2.8 . Is it OK to install AccelX in as well as xbase? If not, 
what happens to the dependancies on xbase?

TIA

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Re: ACM 4.7-3 with Debian Linux 1.2.4

1997-04-29 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> 
> >  Sad to say, I'm not replying to my own question about Air Combat
> > Maneuvers under Debian 1.2.4...
> 
>  Not yet...
>  ...

 And not yet, but I can rebuild the binaries now. I found that the
configure script did not actually complain for lack of any random
generator, instead silently it was getting an error from ld, unable to
link -lelf; afterwards, src/server.c was trying to include filio.h, which
seem to be well represented by file.h; so here are two very small patch
files, see attachments (of course, the first one may not be necessary... I
tried reconfiguring ld but I still HAD to do that change to the configure
script; and for the second, you could avoid it just creating inside
/usr/include/sys/ a symbolic link filio.h -> file.h). 


 Now, inside the acm-4.7 dir: 

 ./configure
 ./make
 cd src
 ./acms &
  (now under an xterm session of course)
 ./acm -geometry 320x200
 
 Everything still slw. 


 Maybe the keyboard or the mouse configuration? What's so heavy? Or is
it some timer that works in a different way under Debian (1.2.4) than
under Slackware (almost up to 3.1 December '96)?
 I mean, today it is ACM, tomorrow may be a cad or mathematics package
or whatelse. Why is it so slow under Debian? Is the "rotor" mode of xlock
slower than elsewhere too? 


 A-ehm, I was forgetting... About that complain, it was something like
"can't load libX11.so...": saw ld documentation, incompatible binary
types... Damn, just installed xcompat and that was ok.


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Re: Directory permissions.

1997-04-29 Thread Nathan E Norman

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, David Wright wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> > [ description of problem ]
> > 
> > I did this to avoid a full install when I repartitioned since I have no
> > backup system and have installed from ftp.  Somebody out there must have a
> > good way to reset my ownerships.
> 
> Well, the /easiest/ way might just be to copy the files in one of the
> correct manners, overwriting both them and their ownerships. For example,
> tar to stdout and pipe it to stdin of another tar with --save-permissions 
> and --save-owners (done as root).

Using the correct tools is important.  David gives you one such tool - I
personally type the following command in the directory I wish to copy:
"find . -print | cpio -p /target".  This is of course a simplification;
find and cpio have a lot of powerful options, and people will argue the 
merits of tar vs. cpio all day.  It works for me.  At any rate, mc is not
up to the task.

> 
> > About a year ago I remember running across a doc that described the file
> > system structure standards.  I don't remember if it gave ownerships but
> > it's worth a shot if someone knows what it's called and where I can find
> > it.
> 
> No, it's far too short to cover ownerships, only locations. The 1.2 FSS
> doesn't give it's own location(!), but only that of its FAQ which is
> ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/docs/linux-standards/fsstnd/FSSTND-FAQ
> 

I concur.  You're in for an install  - I can smile cos I've bombed
my machines a few times.

> P.S. I don't see multiple copies of your postings here.

Nor do I.

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Re: Directory permissions.

1997-04-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

> As some of you are aware, I recently transfered my file system from hda1
> to hda2.  When I did it I used midnight commander.
> 
> MC has an option to keep UID's and GID's when copying.  Supprise! It only
> does this on the files.  When it created the directories on hda2 it
> made them ALL root.root using umask.
> [...]
> 1.  Is there an easy way to reset the permissions of my directories to
> what they should be?  Such as a program that I can exicute that will set
> them or go through and prompt me for the changes.
> [...]
> So now my system is half-hosed.  I assume there are other things not
> working correctly even though I'm not getting any other errors and all
> seems to be fine, so far.
> 
> I did this to avoid a full install when I repartitioned since I have no
> backup system and have installed from ftp.  Somebody out there must have a
> good way to reset my ownerships.

Well, the /easiest/ way might just be to copy the files in one of the
correct manners, overwriting both them and their ownerships. For example,
tar to stdout and pipe it to stdin of another tar with --save-permissions 
and --save-owners (done as root).

> About a year ago I remember running across a doc that described the file
> system structure standards.  I don't remember if it gave ownerships but
> it's worth a shot if someone knows what it's called and where I can find
> it.

No, it's far too short to cover ownerships, only locations. The 1.2 FSS
doesn't give it's own location(!), but only that of its FAQ which is
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/docs/linux-standards/fsstnd/FSSTND-FAQ

P.S. I don't see multiple copies of your postings here.
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Re: help! - Majordomo

1997-04-29 Thread tomk
Solomani writes:
> 
> On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> Hi, thanks for your help, I added the line you suggested, but now I get
> this error ...
> 
> 
> |- Message log follows: -|
>  no valid recipients were found for this message
> |- Failed addresses follow: -|
>  ":include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/ev-delta" ... failed: director
> aliasinclude: include file open failed (parent ev-delta-outgoing): No such
> file
> or directory
> |- Message text follows: |
> Received: by electric-rain.net
> id m0wLjfe-000qEXa 

The order that the lines are added to /etc/smail/directors is important. Make
sure the "aliasinclude:" lines are the first ones in the file, (i.e. insert
them _before_ the existing lines)  
Secondly, double check your setup using the /usr/doc/majordomo/README.GZ file
as your guide. I had similar problems and found that file to be very helpful
in straightening out my situation.
Let me know if you need additional help. 8-)

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"who" says nothing about other users

1997-04-29 Thread Eugene Sevinian

Doing some experiments with new kernel and modules I have noticed that
'who' does not work correct while the  "top"  reports about all other
users.  Since my experiments are not finished yet I would like to know
about other possible source of this problem. Is there any idea?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Linux on 701CS

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, David S. Jackson wrote:

> Hi, Robert
> 
> Thanks for your terrific page on Linux for the 701.  I was hoping you
> could help me with a couple of things:
> 
> 1) I'd like to find a way to reset my modem without rebooting my machine.
> How can I do that for the internal IBM modem included with the ThinkPad?

Hopefully your modem doesn't need a power reset, as mine does after my ISP
does this.  Try typing "echo atz > /dev/ttyS1" for com2.  Just change the
ttyS# to whatever port your modem is on.  

ttyS0 - com1 ttyS1 - com2 ttyS2 - com3 ttyS3 - com4

> 
> 2) I goofed when running dselect and downloaded a new kernel image
> (2.0.27).  I thought I was d/ling the source, but it was an image.  I
> doubt that it includes PPP service compiled in, which I need to run to
> connect to my ISP and run dselect with PPP.  So I can't reboot to reset
> the modem anyway, yet.  How do I get my old kernel back?   Can I copy from
> my rescue disk or recompile the ppp modules in from the drivers disk?

The modules my still be in place.  Try just copying the kernel image from
floppy.  Check directory /lib/modules to see if they are there.


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Re: broken installation

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones

This comes up frequently but is being fixed by the new diety.

You have to recycle through the install phase until it's all installed.
Each time it will install more because the dependencies are satisfied.

The current dselect doesn't use dependant order.

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, David S. Jackson wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just installed a system using dselect and got about 40 packages that
> were broken; they installed but are unconfigured.  Mostly they have
> dependencies that were covered in multiple deb packages.  Libraries of
> other files of the same name were redundant in several packages.  What do
> you do in a case like this?  
> 
> I 'forced' downloading them and figured I could work out the details
> later, even if I had to configure by hand.  Is this customary for ftp
> installs?
> 
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Re: Newby: dselect failure

1997-04-29 Thread Chris Walker
George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> 
> One trick that I have learned is to SELECT NOTHING the first time you run
> dselect, simply let it install the PRESELECTED things only. THEN run
> dselect again and choose your other software.
> 
> 

The original problem was problems with installing the quota
package. I'd suggest trying dselect again, but without selecting
quota. If that fails to work, or there are lots of problems then the
advice above is worth following. When the other packages are
installed, try quota again. In either case it is probably worth
submitting a bug report - I've checked, and there is only one bug
against quota, and it wouldn't have caused your problem. See
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.html for details on how to submit
a bug. 

The problems occur because packages sometimes depend on other packages
being installed. They shouldn't do this (in most cases), but the
problems are sometimes difficult to spot.

An alternative solution may be to try the packages in frozen - though
this includes the same version of quota. 

Chris


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Re: Bo.

1997-04-29 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote:

> I have had debian linux running for about 9 months (So I still a newbie)
> in this time I have learned alot about system admin and system keepup.
> also in this time I have made some royal srewups. so I have made the
> desion to wipe clean my hard disk and start anew with a 1.3 system. I was
> wondering if any one knew when 1.3 would be released and also I was
> wondering how well / stable bo is now ... as I would like to order a cd
> with 1.3 on it and start with the base disk install from 1.3. so any info
> you have I would appreciate.

 Debian 1.3 is just about to be released. I think that there is a small
risk, but it's very acceptable. Install 1.3!

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Directory permissions.

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones
As some of you are aware, I recently transfered my file system from hda1
to hda2.  When I did it I used midnight commander.

MC has an option to keep UID's and GID's when copying.  Supprise! It only
does this on the files.  When it created the directories on hda2 it
made them ALL root.root using umask.

I discovered this when the following error appeared:

runq 04/29/1997 08:43:00: mailer error: cannot open 
/var/log/smail/paniclog: Permission denied

Which made me investigate the permissions.

There are two problems I'm addressing here.

1.  Is there an easy way to reset the permissions of my directories to
what they should be?  Such as a program that I can exicute that will set
them or go through and prompt me for the changes.

2.  The above error is actually related to the file permissions now since
I've changed it before.  It seems that cron did some kind of clean up this
morning and changed the permission back (on the files in this directory)
to what they were before.

Here is the directory after I changed permissions to add group write
permission to stop the error:

drwxrwxr-x   2 root mail 1024 Apr 29 06:43 .
drwxrwxr-x   7 root adm  1024 Apr 29 06:44 ..
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail 3356 Apr 29 09:07 logfile
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   649572 Apr 29 06:56 logfile.0
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail 5830 Apr 15 06:44 logfile.1.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail15244 Apr 13 06:44 logfile.2.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail13330 Apr 11 06:44 logfile.3.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail11078 Apr  8 06:43 logfile.4.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail 2453 Apr  5 06:43 logfile.5.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail11769 Apr  4 06:43 logfile.6.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail0 Apr 29 06:43 paniclog
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail  750 Apr 29 06:43 paniclog.0
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   31 Apr 15 06:44 paniclog.1.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   31 Apr 13 06:44 paniclog.2.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   31 Apr 11 06:44 paniclog.3.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   31 Apr  8 06:43 paniclog.4.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   31 Apr  5 06:43 paniclog.5.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 root mail   31 Apr  4 06:43 paniclog.6.gz

Why has this error started since the move from hda1?  I have been using
the file ownerships to set the directory ownerships since I know that mc
kept the file ownerships intact.

So now my system is half-hosed.  I assume there are other things not
working correctly even though I'm not getting any other errors and all
seems to be fine, so far.

I did this to avoid a full install when I repartitioned since I have no
backup system and have installed from ftp.  Somebody out there must have a
good way to reset my ownerships.

About a year ago I remember running across a doc that described the file
system structure standards.  I don't remember if it gave ownerships but
it's worth a shot if someone knows what it's called and where I can find
it.

I thought it might have been a HOW-TO but I just checked linux.org and
found none that looked like they described the file system structure.

I see a re-install in my future.  Can anybody give me a hand with this so
I don't have to resort to the obvious?

--Rick

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Re: HELP WITH - Re: Multiple copies of the same message from Rick Jones in debian-user. (fwd)

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones

Thank you for the response.  I checked the headers and figured the problem
was on debians end but wanted confirmation and maybe for someone at debian
to realise this and fix it.

I will let mom know you send regaurds and give her a hard time since you
are a couple years older than she is.  She thinks ppl your age are not
capable of learning computers as well as the younger generation (dad too).
I try to tell her otherwise.

Dad's coming around now.  He's taking an MIS course (minor) in college and
is asking for help now and then.  He's 52 now.  He's always thought
computers were too complicated to bother with.

I went to him about 6 years ago with an idea, since he was an Electronics
engineer in the Army, to build a card to put in a computer that could be
hooked up to the cable system and allow computers to comunicate.  A cable
modem.  He told me it would never work.  He didn't want to give it any
thought because it involved these damned computers I was into.

I figured he was right.  He was the Electronics expert.  I could be doing
well if he'd taken me seriously.  Live and learn.

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Witold Kulinski wrote:

> it means that you have sent ONE message, and this message was resent
> at 18:29:06 -, but sums1.rdg.ac.uk have got this message from
> debian.novare.net repeated at different times !
> 
> It's something wrong with debian.novare.net !
> 
> I have had very similar problem with my ISP (4 times !), but after
> investigating mail headers I was demonstrated that messages were
> multiplied on ISP's server. Last time it was nightmarish - during 
> 5 hours was spammed over 15 MB on ISP's disk !
> 
> But remember, you _must_ investigate headers with text editor,
> mail program don't show headers details.
> 
> Hope I help you a bit...
> 
> PS. some days ago you wrote:
> 
> > challenge.  So we aren't a bunch of engineers.  Set up properly anyone can
> > use it and like it.  My mom uses it sometimes and knows nothing about
> > computers.   
> 
> Give your mother my best regards !
> It's very nice to hear that I'm not alone - I'm also BBC (born before
> computers) generation. I'm 55 years old and I'm playing Linux on my
> box over 2 years.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> wk
> --
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> 
> 

--Rick

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Re: debian_user mailing list vs newsgroup

1997-04-29 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there a mailing list gateway from debian_user to linux.debian.user?
[...]
>> The newsgroup was almost dead in my end, until a week ago. It does
>> not seem to be up to date though.
>
>I remember reading somewhere that the gateway from the mailing lists to
>the linux.* newsgroups was shutting down.  Unfortunately, I can't find
>the message here anywhere.

I've forwarded H. Peter Anvin's original announcment of the shutdown to
debian-devel on Fri, 4 Apr 1997 09:40:08 +0200 under subject "End of
linux.* mail <-> news gateway". It is available from the mailing lists
archives on www.debian.org (currently as
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9704/msg00034.html).

HTH,
Ray
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Re: NIS problem, please Help

1997-04-29 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
According to Richard Zoni:
> Hello,
> 
> here at the CS students lab of the University of Bologna  we have 
> a debian linux NIS server running on a 166Mhz Pentium with 64Mb,
> it serves a cluster of 20 debian linux boxes.
> We are having some problems with the NIS:
>   
>   1. Our ypserv is consuming up to 90% CPU time, 
>  We have very big maps (600 lines in passwd 
>  and 2 hundreds more in group)
>  is it normal?

No, we have 1500 people in our passwd file and NIS isn't consuming any
time at all. HOWEVER, you might have a lot of people in additional groups-
you say that your groups file is 200 lines. The Unix initgroups(2) operation
is very "expensive", especially over NIS. You might want to turn it off wherever
possible, for example in sendmail.

>   2. If we stop nis and we restart it
>  we have this messages from Cron  at run
>  yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out

It's a debug message from libc5, stating that it can't reach the NIS
server. Cron does a lot of getwpnam() etc.

>   3. filesystems exported to netgoups are not
>  trusted (permission denied)
>  the save is for netgroups in 
>  hosts.{allow,deny,equiv}

libc5 and/or Linux nfsd doesn't support NIS netgroups AFAIK.

Mike.
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NIS problem, please Help

1997-04-29 Thread Richard Zoni
Hello,

here at the CS students lab of the University of Bologna  we have 
a debian linux NIS server running on a 166Mhz Pentium with 64Mb,
it serves a cluster of 20 debian linux boxes.
We are having some problems with the NIS:

1. Our ypserv is consuming up to 90% CPU time, 
   We have very big maps (600 lines in passwd 
   and 2 hundreds more in group)
   is it normal?

2. If we stop nis and we restart it
   we have this messages from Cron  at run
   yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out

3. filesystems exported to netgoups are not
   trusted (permission denied)
   the save is for netgroups in 
   hosts.{allow,deny,equiv}


related deb:libc5   5.4.20-1
netbase 2.09-1   
netstd  2.12-1
libreadline22.0.1-2


Thank you in advice
ricky


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Re: one thing latex is better than tetex

1997-04-29 Thread joost witteveen
> previously, dvips gave me ps file with page numbering and I can
> go to a particular page using ghostview or gv.
> after I installed tetex and found that the ps file no more numbered
> and I can only press  in gv, can't get back.
> Is there any magic to make tetex's dvips number the ps file?

Well, I've still got the old latex packagres installed, but
just reading the docs, could you try:
  dvips -N0 myfile.dvi 

-N turns structuring commands off (and I'm hoping the page numbers
are part of the document structuring), while -N0 should undo that
again (turning it on).

Of cource I could not test it.
Still, I think it's a bug in the tetex packages, if true.

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broken installation

1997-04-29 Thread David S. Jackson
Hi,

I just installed a system using dselect and got about 40 packages that
were broken; they installed but are unconfigured.  Mostly they have
dependencies that were covered in multiple deb packages.  Libraries of
other files of the same name were redundant in several packages.  What do
you do in a case like this?  

I 'forced' downloading them and figured I could work out the details
later, even if I had to configure by hand.  Is this customary for ftp
installs?

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Linux on 701CS

1997-04-29 Thread David S. Jackson
Hi, Robert

Thanks for your terrific page on Linux for the 701.  I was hoping you
could help me with a couple of things:

1) I'd like to find a way to reset my modem without rebooting my machine.
How can I do that for the internal IBM modem included with the ThinkPad?

2) I goofed when running dselect and downloaded a new kernel image
(2.0.27).  I thought I was d/ling the source, but it was an image.  I
doubt that it includes PPP service compiled in, which I need to run to
connect to my ISP and run dselect with PPP.  So I can't reboot to reset
the modem anyway, yet.  How do I get my old kernel back?   Can I copy from
my rescue disk or recompile the ppp modules in from the drivers disk?

I'm installing debian 1.2 from the 'stable' directory at debian.org, after
having installed disk images 1-4 and the drivers and rescue images.  My
ISP dropped carrier in the middle of the dselect session, leaving me with
a partial package and a disgruntled modem.  :-)

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X questions

1997-04-29 Thread jr_martinez


  When I launch the X-server using the startx command and a personal
  .xinitrc, I got several messages:

  "sh:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: No such file or directory
  couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap"

  I can't find the xkb program. Is it a X standard program?

  If I launch an xterm session, I got the system can't  find the command.

  I am thinking If I forgot to install both commands when I run dselect
  program.

  Please, could anybody advise me.

  J.R.Martinez Miro
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Re: missing packages from "stable"

1997-04-29 Thread David S. Jackson
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

> I've noticed that many files are reported missing by deselect.  The
> problem is they're named wrong.  In that case you have to manually ftp to
> ftp.debian.org or wherever and get the file.  Most of the time the file
> version number is 1 or 2 off.

Hmmm.  At what times does the 'packages' file get updated?  I take it the
filenames are not always in synch with the 'packages' in the stable
directory?

Fortunately for me, it was only a few files, so I can manually ftp them as
you suggest.  

Thanks!  :-)

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Re: lprng how?

1997-04-29 Thread Lawrence Chim
> > I am using Alladin Ghostscript (from non-free) because I have a bjc600
> > printer and only non-free version support it(?).
> > 
> 
> Aha!  So of the three people (including myself) who are having or have had
> this problem the common thread seems to be:
> 
> !.  All using lprng
> 2.  All using apsfilter
> 3.  All using Alladin Ghostscript
> 
> So logic would dictate the bug is somewhere in the interaction of these
> three.  While still very meager, at least this is solid information and
> hopefully some clever person can discover (and fix!) the problem.  I'll
> file a bug report straight away.
> 
> In the mean time, I think you'll find magicfilter solves your printing
> problem.  I have a bubblejet too (210c) and things are great now.
> 

To whom you will file the bug report? :)

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Re: lprng how?

1997-04-29 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas


-- Jaldhar

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

> I am using Alladin Ghostscript (from non-free) because I have a bjc600
> printer and only non-free version support it(?).
> 

Aha!  So of the three people (including myself) who are having or have had
this problem the common thread seems to be:

!.  All using lprng
2.  All using apsfilter
3.  All using Alladin Ghostscript

So logic would dictate the bug is somewhere in the interaction of these
three.  While still very meager, at least this is solid information and
hopefully some clever person can discover (and fix!) the problem.  I'll
file a bug report straight away.

In the mean time, I think you'll find magicfilter solves your printing
problem.  I have a bubblejet too (210c) and things are great now.

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one thing latex is better than tetex

1997-04-29 Thread Lawrence Chim
previously, dvips gave me ps file with page numbering and I can
go to a particular page using ghostview or gv.
after I installed tetex and found that the ps file no more numbered
and I can only press  in gv, can't get back.
Is there any magic to make tetex's dvips number the ps file?

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Re: lprng how?

1997-04-29 Thread Lawrence Chim
> > > > Just change from lpr to lprng but then whenever I try to run
> > > > lpr or lpq, it said "cannot open connection to [EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> > > > I have read the Intro and Tutorial in the /usr/doc/lprng but
> > > > could not find any short answer.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Are you using apsfilter or magicfilter?  If the former, does it work if
> > > you install magicfilter instead?
> > 
> > Yes, I am using apsfilter, and I will try magicfilter when I get back home.
> > Though, if lprng not works with apsfilter, should apsfilter be marked as
> > conflict in the lprng's control file.
> > 
> That's the thing though.  It _should_ work.  No doubt you read the docs
> diligently just like I did.  If it turns out magicfilter solves the
> problem for you, you will be the third person I know of to encounter this
> mysterious bug.  
> 
> One further question, are you using Alladin Ghostscript (from non-free) or
> the regular one?
> 

I am using Alladin Ghostscript (from non-free) because I have a bjc600
printer and only non-free version support it(?).

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Re: lprng how?

1997-04-29 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

> > > Just change from lpr to lprng but then whenever I try to run
> > > lpr or lpq, it said "cannot open connection to [EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> > > I have read the Intro and Tutorial in the /usr/doc/lprng but
> > > could not find any short answer.
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you using apsfilter or magicfilter?  If the former, does it work if
> > you install magicfilter instead?
> 
> Yes, I am using apsfilter, and I will try magicfilter when I get back home.
> Though, if lprng not works with apsfilter, should apsfilter be marked as
> conflict in the lprng's control file.
> 
> Lawrence,
> 

That's the thing though.  It _should_ work.  No doubt you read the docs
diligently just like I did.  If it turns out magicfilter solves the
problem for you, you will be the third person I know of to encounter this
mysterious bug.  

One further question, are you using Alladin Ghostscript (from non-free) or
the regular one?


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Re: lprng how?

1997-04-29 Thread Lawrence Chim
> > Just change from lpr to lprng but then whenever I try to run
> > lpr or lpq, it said "cannot open connection to [EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> > I have read the Intro and Tutorial in the /usr/doc/lprng but
> > could not find any short answer.
> > 
> 
> Are you using apsfilter or magicfilter?  If the former, does it work if
> you install magicfilter instead?

Yes, I am using apsfilter, and I will try magicfilter when I get back home.
Though, if lprng not works with apsfilter, should apsfilter be marked as
conflict in the lprng's control file.

Lawrence,


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Re: missing packages from "stable"

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones

I've noticed that many files are reported missing by deselect.  The
problem is they're named wrong.  In that case you have to manually ftp to
ftp.debian.org or wherever and get the file.  Most of the time the file
version number is 1 or 2 off.


On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, David S. Jackson wrote:

> I'm still installing debian to my 701CS Thinkpad via ftp, and I seem to be
> missing a 'required' package (required for me, anyway):
> 
> stable/binary-i386/admin/pcmcia-cs_2.9.1-2.deb: No such file OR directory
> 
> Any idea why this would be missing from "stable"?
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Re: dpkg Question

1997-04-29 Thread Jim Smith
Alexandre Lebrun wrote:
> 
> about : listing installed & unneeded packages
> 
> Usually I do that with dselect.
> You go through the list  (skipping the base package),
> and see every package that is installed.
> I find it convenient for 2 reasons :
> 
> -You have a short description for the packages (in case you don't remember)
> -You can safely try to deselect them. deselect tells you if it breaks
> other packages. Then you hit 'x' and keep the package.
> 
> But that's slow and will take more than an hour.
>
Thanks for the reply, I may do just that.

Jim

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Re: dpkg Question

1997-04-29 Thread Jim Smith
Richard Morin wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Jim Smith wrote:
> 
> > I've just read the man for dpkg and dselect, but my question is, is
> > there any way to use either of them to audit a system to find out just
> > what is there? I'm afraid my notes are not all that complete.(g) I've
> >
> > Jim
> > --
> 
> dpkg -l
> 
> you'll prolly want to pipe that through a less so you can actually read
> it...
> 
> dpkg -l |less
> 
Thanks, I'll try that one next. Maybe also pipe it to a file.

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Re: dpkg Question

1997-04-29 Thread Jim Smith
Paul McDermott wrote:
> 
> yes there is. There is a file called status in /var/lib/dpkg.  the file
> status will tell you what programs are installed and i think but don't
> quote me programs that are not installed.  At any rate take a look at
> this file and see if it helps you
> Paul
> Ps. Good luck.  I hope this helps and let me know if i can help out
> any further.
> 
> Thanks,I'll take a look.

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missing packages from "stable"

1997-04-29 Thread David S. Jackson
I'm still installing debian to my 701CS Thinkpad via ftp, and I seem to be
missing a 'required' package (required for me, anyway):

stable/binary-i386/admin/pcmcia-cs_2.9.1-2.deb: No such file OR directory

Any idea why this would be missing from "stable"?

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Re: where is libXmu.so.6?

1997-04-29 Thread Christian Hudon
On Apr 28, Kevin M. Luck wrote
>   Hello.  I'm a new debian user who just installed the floppy version of 1.2
> to a p75, and I'm now trying to add X11R6.  I've installed xbase, xfntbase,
> xlib6, xserver for vga16 and s3 (my card), but am unable to run any x
> software because I always get a "xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'"
> error.  I've checked my paths in /etc/ld.so.conf and /usr/X11R6/lib is
> listed all right, and I've used updatedb and locate to search for the file
> to no avail.  I've also tried adding xcompat, xlib6-dev, and xslib, but none
> of these have helped.  If anyone can help me, I'd really appreciate it.

Hmm. That's odd. libXmu.so.6 should have come with the xlib6 package. At
least that's the way it is on my system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] >dpkg -S libXmu.so.6
xlib6: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6.0
xlib6: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6


Do "dpkg -L xlib6" (this will list all the files that came with the xlib6
package that you installed). If libXmu.so.6 isn't in the list (would be
really surprising) then check if you have the latest version of xlib6. If
libXmu.so.6 *is* in the list, then it means that the file got deleted
somehow after you installed xlib6. Reinstalling xlib6 should cure that. (To
make sure that the libXmu.so.6 file is in the xlib6.deb file, you can use
"dpkg -c" on the .deb file to list its contents.)

Luck,

  Christian


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Re: Thinkpad 701CS (fwd)

1997-04-29 Thread David S. Jackson
Thanks to all who responded to my problem! 

Thanks, Oliver.  You solved my problem!  :-)


On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:

>   >conflict that might screw up my modem.  Do you think running gpm (or
>   >trying to run) on the same device as my modem could cause some of the
>   >problems like I'm having? 
> 
> I can't imagine what that would do!  It might be a good idea to reset the
> modem to its factory defaults by using its switches -- just in case this
> has messed up its settings.

I went ahead and did a reboot.  Seemed to do the trick.

> If you have a PS/2 mouse, it's device is /dev/psmouse, for which ls -l should
> report:
> 
>   $ ls -l /dev/psmouse
>   crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   1 Apr 27 17:59 /dev/psmouse
>   $ 

Yup, it did.

> You should delete /dev/mouse and run
> 
>   ln -s /dev/psmouse /dev/mouse
> 
> to get that link correct.

I went with ln -sf /dev/psmouse /dev/mouse in one swell foop.  Thanks for
telling me about /dev/psmouse.  I never used it before!!  Great tip!  :-)

> On the other hand, your last mail implies that gpm is working; if so,
> it can't be a PS/2 mouse -- or is gpm using /dev/psmouse and bypassing
> /dev/mouse altogether?

I had to kill GPM before using the modem.  since /dev/mouse was linked to
/dev/ttyS0 my script sensed the modem device was busy.  And it left the
modem in an unusual state too.  

I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psmouse and that left the ttyS0 open for the
modem. Also, gpm got ahold of the correct pointing device.  Now everything
is peachy!  :-)

Thanks very much Oliver!!


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Re: Bo.

1997-04-29 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote:

> I have had debian linux running for about 9 months (So I still a newbie)
> in this time I have learned alot about system admin and system keepup.
> also in this time I have made some royal srewups. so I have made the
> desion to wipe clean my hard disk and start anew with a 1.3 system. I was
> wondering if any one knew when 1.3 would be released and also I was
> wondering how well / stable bo is now ... as I would like to order a cd
> with 1.3 on it and start with the base disk install from 1.3. so any info
> you have I would appreciate.

I would wait until bo is officially released.  There are still some 
problems that need to be resolved.


Cheers.  Syrus.


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Re: lprng how?

1997-04-29 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas


-- Jaldhar 

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

> Just change from lpr to lprng but then whenever I try to run
> lpr or lpq, it said "cannot open connection to [EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> I have read the Intro and Tutorial in the /usr/doc/lprng but
> could not find any short answer.
> 

Are you using apsfilter or magicfilter?  If the former, does it work if
you install magicfilter instead?

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Re: Reply error in pine

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote:

> I've had this error for the duration when using pine to reply to posts
> from this list.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Anybody have this problem?  Anybody know how to stop it?

I get it all the time. I never bothered to look into it though.

...RickM...


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Reply error in pine

1997-04-29 Thread Rick Jones
I've had this error for the duration when using pine to reply to posts
from this list.

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It shows up as the last line in the Cc field when I go into the editor
after hitting R for reply in pine.

Anybody have this problem?  Anybody know how to stop it?

BTW...I'm starting to recv duplicates of other ppl's posts now.  I think
the list server is getting a little nuts on us.

--Rick

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Cannot login to bo

1997-04-29 Thread Richard Jennison
 Since upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3 I am not able to log into bo as root on
run level 2. Each time I enter the password I get an 'incorrect password'
back. As previously suggested I disabled nis which then allowed me to login
as a user other than root but I still cannot login as root. (Thanks, Brian
Borg)
 I can also go to su at run level 2 from another user's initial login.
Any other suggestions? I have tried various things with the login
config files: login.defs; login access; porttime; securetty and am now back
to the basic defaults I started with at installation except for login.access
which has "+:ALL:ALL" as the next to last line.  Thanks Rick 

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Re: where can I find pgp-i ?

1997-04-29 Thread Adam Shand
>The subject says it all. It's not in the debian package, couldn't 
>find anything in the FAQ's. So, where is it?

Or look at the debian package finder at
http://larry.earthlight.co.nz/debian/finder.cgi

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Bo.

1997-04-29 Thread Kevin J Poorman

Hi

I have had debian linux running for about 9 months (So I still a newbie)
in this time I have learned alot about system admin and system keepup.
also in this time I have made some royal srewups. so I have made the
desion to wipe clean my hard disk and start anew with a 1.3 system. I was
wondering if any one knew when 1.3 would be released and also I was
wondering how well / stable bo is now ... as I would like to order a cd
with 1.3 on it and start with the base disk install from 1.3. so any info
you have I would appreciate.

-- Kevin.


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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-29 Thread Clint Adams
> modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory

The problem was avoided by removing the *_MODULES files.


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depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-29 Thread Clint Adams
When I attempt to run depmod (modutils 2.1.34)
for kernel v2.0.30, I receive a

modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory

Any ideas?


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Odd majordomo error

1997-04-29 Thread Solomani

I have just started my own list, and it seems to be working fine, but I
sometimes get the error - MAJORDOMO WARNING (mj_majordomo)!!

shlock: open('/var/lib/majordomo/lists/L.ev-delta'): No such file or
directory 

? thanks


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where is libXmu.so.6?

1997-04-29 Thread Kevin M. Luck
  Hello.  I'm a new debian user who just installed the floppy version of 1.2
to a p75, and I'm now trying to add X11R6.  I've installed xbase, xfntbase,
xlib6, xserver for vga16 and s3 (my card), but am unable to run any x
software because I always get a "xinit: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'"
error.  I've checked my paths in /etc/ld.so.conf and /usr/X11R6/lib is
listed all right, and I've used updatedb and locate to search for the file
to no avail.  I've also tried adding xcompat, xlib6-dev, and xslib, but none
of these have helped.  If anyone can help me, I'd really appreciate it.
  Thanks in advance,

Kevin "Macavity" Luck   http://www.geocites.com/Paris/1515  [EMAIL 
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Re: dpkg Question

1997-04-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
How about "dpkg -l | less"

On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Jim Smith wrote:

> I've just read the man for dpkg and dselect, but my question is, is
> there any way to use either of them to audit a system to find out just
> what is there? I'm afraid my notes are not all that complete.(g) I've
> got a full-blown Debian system here and its probably time to look at it
> and see what I don't need and can safely remove.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: dselect for X?

1997-04-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
If a version of dselect is created for X, PLEASE let it be an option, not
the only version.  Many of us have X-less installations and intend to keep
it that way (I have both X and non-X machines).

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