Re: What happened to fvwm95.
What happened to fvwm95, it seems the taskbar is missing, and the color's
have been changed to say the least. Does anyone have an old copy of their
system.fvwm95 file around, so that I can get fvwm95 back to the way it
was.
Strange. The postinst was changed to detect if the user had an
/etc/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95 file, and if it was absent, then
create one.
But if you've got the menu package installed, then the
/etc/x11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95 file will be overwritten, using
/etc/x11/fvwm95/system.fvwm2rc95-menu. Maybe you recently installed
menu?
Anyway, the old system.fvwm2rc95 is somewhere in /usr/doc/fvwm95//system*
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Re: Compiling a new kernel
In the instructions that came with the kernel source package, Linus
recommends making symlinks in the include directory to directories in the
usr/src/linux/arch directory.
I also remember reading that libc5-dev contains a set of headers.
Someone on the list recommended that the directories in the include
directory shoudln't be deleted and made into symlinks. Is this correct?
Yes, it's correct. But it's got very little (actually nothing) to
do with compiling the kernel (the symlinks you are talking about is
so that user-programmes can see parts of the kernel, something
that nowadays isn't very usefull any more. That's why Debian libc5,
and anyone's glibc(=libc6) do it differently).
Also is glibc the same as libc6?
Yes.
if so why?
Basically, because glibc comes after libc5. The soname
of libc5 is, you guessed it, 5. Because gnu libc is a major step
forward, the soname had to be changed (increased).
This leaves us with a gnu libc that has a soname 6, and thus we
(and the rest of the linux world) call it libc6.
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Re: fvwm95 taskbar
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Oleg Krivosheev wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:
Installing -10.deb version of fvwm95 gives me a taskbar. Installing
-10.2.deb version of fvwm95 gives no taskbar.
How does one get a taskbar after installing -10.2.deb version of
fvwm95?
i had the same problem. You can check that -10.deb is about 500+ K
while -10.2 is about 270K. The reason is that -10.2 is packaged
without modules - no FvwmTaskbar, no FvwmPager etc.
I've downgraded to -10.deb
OK
Guess I will also downgrade to -10.deb which works fine for me. Perhaps
the FvwmTaskbar and FvwmPager will be packaged seperately in the near
future.
No, sorry to say you're wrong here.
There must be a reason they were omitted from -10.2.
And although I'd be inclined to say this statement _should_ be right,
I (the one who packaged -10.2) don't know the reason, and I feel
like there sortof isn't one.
Another of life's little mysteries.
Now here you are absolutely right. Other people have reported that
simply rebuilding -10.2 fixed the missing modules, so that's what I
plan to do when I release 10.3, but why-oh-why they are missing in 10.2
is completely beyond me.
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Re: telnet: connection refused
Hi,
I have the following problem:
I can telnet, ftp and rlogin from my debian 1.3 box to other machines
but can't telnet or rlogin from other machines to mine. I can only ftp,
I am using wu-ftpd 2.4-27. If I try to telnet, I get the following:
telnet : Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
Any help is appreciated
What output do you get when you do:
rulcmc:~$ grep telnet /etc/inetd.conf
telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd
rulcmc:~$ grep ^telnet /etc/services
telnet 23/tcp
rulcmc:~$ ps -ax|grep [i]netd
105 ? S 0:04 /usr/sbin/inetd
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Re: mount, noatime option
On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:
Hi,
kernel 2.0.30 supports the 'noatime' option for a filesystem, right?
If compiled with that option, yes. Did you answer yes to
that question? (I don't think (though I'm not sure) the default
debian kernel has it compiled in).
I've got kernel-source 2.0.30-7 installed.
I don't get any questions related to this when I go 'make menuconfig'.
What options should be selected?
OK, I'm not really absolutely totally sure it was in 2.0.30 already.
I've got my own 2.0.31-pre2 installed (a pre-release of 2.0.31),
and that one gives me the options:
Second extended fs support (CONFIG_EXT2_FS) [Y/m/n/?] Y
NO_ATIME support for ext2 filesystems (CONFIG_EXT2_NOATIME) [N/y/?] N
I'm not sure where you can get pre2, but at least it seems available
from ftp://ftp.cistron.nl/pub/os/linux/kernel/v2.0/pre-patch-2.0.31-2.gz,
and probably from any good ftp site near you.
(inode's access time is not updated after reads).
mount_2.6d-1.deb doesn't seem to recognize this option (moount -o
noatime), or what is the right option.
Does appear to be the correct option (man mount).
What is the mount package you are using?
2.6g-1, sorry for forgetting to mention that.
I've got mount 2.6d-1 installed:
# mount -o noatime /dev/sdc1 /mnt
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,
or too many mounted file systems
mount -o noatime -t ext2 /dev/sd /mnt
mount: special device /dev/sd does not exist
Mind you, I'm not going to mess with my system, so I didnt' try to
use an real devices like /dev/hda1. (/dev/sd doesn't exist at all
on my system, so the test is rather bogus).
(mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt is ok.)
Neither does the man page of mount know of option noatime.
And the binary doesn't seem to contain the word:
# strings /bin/mount | grep -i time
timed out
timeo
actimeo
Same here.
$ strings /bin/mount | grep -i time
timed out
timeo
actimeo
So, it must be something mount hands to the kernel.
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Re: mount, noatime option
Hi,
kernel 2.0.30 supports the 'noatime' option for a filesystem, right?
If compiled with that option, yes. Did you answer yes to
that question? (I don't think (though I'm not sure) the default
debian kernel has it compiled in).
(inode's access time is not updated after reads).
mount_2.6d-1.deb doesn't seem to recognize this option (moount -o
noatime), or what is the right option.
Does appear to be the correct option (man mount).
Does anyone have this working?
Sorry, no.
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LD_PRELOAD=lib using ldopen: can't resolve symbol '_dl_open'
I'm trying to LD_PRELOAD a library that in turn uses ldopen.
this works OK, as long as I don't try to run (with LD_PRELOAD
set) any binaries that use libdl themselves.
Should this be possible? If so, what am I doing wrong?
$ cat libfoo.c
#include dlfcn.h
void foo(){
void *handle=handle = dlopen(/lib/libc.so.6, RTLD_LAZY);
dlclose(handle);
}
$ gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libfoo.so.0 -o libfoo.so.0.0 -fPIC libfoo.c -ldl
$ export LD_PRELOAD=./libfoo.so.0.0
$ bash
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_open'
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_close'
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_catch_error'
$ ls -d .
./
Thanks.
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Re: What programs make disks spin up?
Nathan E Norman wrote:
I don't think this is going to work, since Linux caches the superblock
as well as other filesystem info. There's a daemon called bdflush,
which I believe has been incorporated into the kernel ... its job is to
flush dirty disk buffers. Since Linux multitasks, I imagine something
is being read from or written to the disk at pretty regular intervals
..
^
Only **dirty** buffers need to be written to disk by bdflush. I
nothing is writing to disk, (and nothing is reading blocks from
disk that are not cached) then no physical disk access needs to be
made.
(You probably already realised this, but) the last statement
is only true if you have the no_atime_patch, cause otherwise everytime
somebody reads /lib/ld.so, the atime of /lib/ld.so needs to be updated,
no matter wheter it was in cache or not (and ld.so probably is cached).
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Re: from 1.3 to hamm
I've successfully completed the 1.2 to 1.3 update on all my current
packages (love that dselect). And now I see some updates and bug-fixes I
would like to use starting to show up in hamm (I already have xfree and
xemacs19), however, I see that more of them are being compiled with the
new glibc6.
What are the issues in converting to the new glibc?
Basically, it's going from the debian-user to debian-devel
mailinglist. I see a lot of questions from people using unstable
in debian-user, but as far as I know, debian-user is primarily for
the stable distribution.
Is there a suggested path to follow in beginning to migrate in that
direction?
Basically, if you've got the unstable versions of libc5, and ldso,
then all you need to do is:
dpkg -i libc6_2.0.4-1_i386.deb
Some/most packages also depend on other libc6 compiled libraries,
that currently aren't in unstable yet (waiting in incoming).
So, you'll have to get them from masters' incoming.
About the stability:
Just installing libc6 will not break anything on your system, except
who (will not show any output any more). Installing other libc6
libraries/packages will probably not break anything eigher (it didn't
on my system, anyway), except installing the libc6 compiled screen:
that messed up my utmp/wtmp files. Maybe it's best to backup those
if you really need them.
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Re: ncurses3.4
I have a system with the 'hamm' hierarchy packages installed. Several of
the packages, including important ones like 'gdb' depend on 'ncurses3.4'
but I cannot find this anywhere. I wonder why 'ncurses3.4' is not
included in 'hamm'. Any pointers or workarounds anyone?
ncurses3.4 is in incoming, not in unstable yet (Guy's on vacation, that's
why).
I've put the .deb files in
ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/incoming
(for the time being, it's a moderately slow link).
Warning: this is for the debian-devel type people only, who are following
unstable. If you just have stable (or bo), don't bother going there!
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Re: man permissions
After installing 1.3, man failed to work for ordinary users:
man bash
man: can't create a temporary filename: No such file or directory
The permissions on /tmp were:
drwxr-xr-t 4 root root 1024 Jun 25 16:47 tmp
so I changed them to:
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 1024 Jun 25 16:51 tmp
This fixes it anyway. Is this okay?
Yes, it's OK.
What's not OK is that the permissions were wrong in the
first place. Something strange must have happened on your system, as
I don't remember seeing floods of messages like this on debian-user.
Do you remember anything interesting about your install? Anything
that could have triggered this?
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Re: Problem with mtab?
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This is what I have in my /etc/init.d/boot, version
[..]
rm -f /etc/mtab~ /etc/nologin
[..]
So according to this, /etc/init.d/boot should take care of removing
/etc/mtab~ during the boot.
That'll solve the problem, but not the cause. The /etc/mtab~ file
is a lock file for mount, and mount should delete it itself.
Sylvain Briole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I use Debian 1.2/Linux 2.0.29.
I have three partitions on my hard disk :
/dev/hda1 : linux
/dev/hda2 : linux swap
/dev/hda3 : ms-dos 6.22
And I have a problem with the mount command :
nathalie# mount /hda3/
can't lock lock file /etc/mtab~: timed out
Apparently your mount eigher doesn't exit properly (maybe it's trying
to mount nfs volumes in the background?), or it's killed for
some other reason.
What does:
$ ps -ax|grep [m]ount
output on your system (is mount still running)?
And during boot, when the mount -avt comes, what does mount say?
(or maybe there are other mount calls, like the nfs mount one.).
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Re: How compile telnet like Debian telnet?
I have 2 machines, on the first I'm using Debian and on the other,
a linux that I had compiled everthing, without using pre-compiled packages.
In the second machine (not Debian), when I use /usr/bin/telnet in a xterm
and do a ls -l /usr/lib in the remote machine (Every action that have a
extended output do this), it logs out from the system, while on the Debian
machine /usr/bin/telnet works fine. The package used was NetKit-0.09.tar.gz.
If needed, I list all packages used (including the libs).
I'll give you here my list of commands that told me what packages etc
to get:
rulcmc:~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/telnet #what package is telnet in?
netstd: /usr/bin/telnet #Ah, netstd.
$ dpkg -s netstd#does dpkg -s show a special source
Package: netstd #package (may differ)?
Status: install ok installed# (looking... no, must be in
netstd.tar).
Priority: standard
Section: net
Installed-Size: 1459
Maintainer: Peter Tobias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.13-1
Depends: cpp, libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), libreadline2 (= 2.1), ncurses3.0
Pre-Depends: netbase (= 2.08)
Suggests: bind, wu-ftpd, mail-transport-agent
[..]
Now, get netstd_2.13-1.diff.gz, netstd_2.13-1.dsc, netstd_2.13.orig.tar.gz,
put them in some-dir, then
cd some-dir
dpkg-source -x netstd_2.13-1.dsc
cd netstd-2.13
dpkg-buildpackage
cd debian/tmp/usr/bin
ls -al telnet
And, there you've got your self-compiled telnet binary.
(for dpkg-source, you'll need dpkg-dev installed).
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Re: help with dselect again plz
Do you want to install the files fetched [y]:
Installing files...
(Reading database ... dpkg: error processing
debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/float
bg_1.0-6.deb (--install):
files list file for package `mgetty-fax' contains empty filename
Errors were encountered while processing:
debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/floatbg_1.0-6.deb
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
DPKG ERROR
I'm not even sure what file I need to edit.
Neighter am I. But it may well help if you try to install floatbg
by hand: type
dpkg -i debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/floatbg_1.0-6.deb
(where you'll probably have to edit the true path to the binary).
If that doesn't work, try to reinstall mgetty-fax, there appears
to be something wrong there too (preferalby using the above manual
method again).
If eighter goes wrong, I'm sure we'll be able to help you better
when you give us the error messages produced then. But probably
all's well then.
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Re: LD_PRELOAD=lib using ldopen: can't resolve symbol '_dl_open'
OK, replying to my own post,
I'm trying to LD_PRELOAD a library that in turn uses ldopen.
this works OK, as long as I don't try to run (with LD_PRELOAD
set) any binaries that use libdl themselves.
[..]
$ gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libfoo.so.0 -o libfoo.so.0.0 -fPIC libfoo.c -ldl
$ export LD_PRELOAD=./libfoo.so.0.0
$ bash
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_open'
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_close'
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_catch_error'
Hopefully, this is caused by the nice mix of libc5/libc6 libraries I'm
forcing bash to use now: ./libfoo.so.0.0 was libc6, whereas bash
is (still) libc5 on my system. I'll _have_ to get that new
bash, but alas, master is still down (and I don't have those new
libreadline's yet).
Sorry for this on debian-user, but I didn't realise this was libc6
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Re: problems with dosemu, fvwm95, xbase
2) fvwm95
I had a problem with fvwm95-2.0.42a-10. It didn't contain the file
system.fvwmrc95 in /etc/X11/fvwm95, so I copied system.fvwmrc95.dpkg-dist.
Yesterday I installed fvwm95-2.0.42a-10.2 because I thought the bug was
corrected. But unfortunately after installation all fvwm modules from
/usr/lib/X11/fvwm95-2 were gone.
This is a bug in fvwm95-2.0.42a-10.2. I'll fix that some time.
3) xfree
Some programs (I think dot-file is one of them, others are motifnls and
xcompat) based on xfree don't recognise that xfree is properly installed
because no package seems to provide X11R6 or XbaseR6, respectively.
Should I file a bug report on each of these points or are there some
simple solutions? Thanks,
Well, dunno about point 1, you could about point 2, but don't bother
as I already know about it (two other people filed bugs), and yes,
I think you should about point 3 (well but first check that
you've got the most recent version of the packages installed, and
you _could_ also check the old bugreports, but the latter is optional).
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Re: menu package
Hi,
I just did an upgrade from menu version 1.3-2 to 1.4-1 and I noticed that
the program update-menus provided by the new package segmentation faults
when the pre-removal and post-removal scripts execute it. This effects
packages such as procps and xproc. Anyone seen this? Thanks...
No, I haven't (I'm the author).
Is it really update-menus that segfaults, or the install-menu
programme? (usually you cansee this from the output, or when it
crashes -- what's the output for you?).
If you're sure it's update-menus, could you do:
tar -czf - /etc/menu /usr/lib/menu|uuencode menu.tgz|mail -s menufiles [EMAIL
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I'm rather convinced it's something to do with one of the menufiles you
have, and the above way is about the only to find out what.
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Re: Where is libc6 ????????
/hamm/hamm/binary/base
I hope the 'new' menu package came from hamm if it requires libc6.
Yes, it's in unstable.
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to find the LIBC6 package but with no luck. The new menu
package r
equires it and I cannot find it anywhere.
Note that you'll also need libg++272, even though menu doesn't
actually depends: on it. That's a bug in libg++272, that nobody
before noticed.
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Re: glibc
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
: Anyone having troubles with errors like
:
: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_peekc_locked'
: /usr/lib/libg++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc'
:
: Do you have libg++272(-dev) installed? When compiling for glibc, all the
: other librarys you link must also be compiled for it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg --status libg++272
Package: libg++272
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 546
Maintainer: joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.7.2.5-1
Depends: libc6
Description: The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
This package contains the additional runtime libraries for g++.
I'm working with the libraries and include-files supplied with the current
unstable Debian distribution.. they should work, shouldn't they?
Yes they should. But note that you haven't yet told us whether you have
installed libg++272-dev installed (there's also a libg++27-dev in
unstable, that one should not be on your system). If you've got
libg++272-dev installed, and still get the above errors, give
me your source, and I'll try and see what is wrong with it.
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Re: glibc
I just forced libc6-dev and libg++272-dev to get installed.
Everything's working fine.. but now it seems the libpthread-dev isn't
working together with libc-6.
Maybe LinuxThreads help you? (Warning: I don't know anything about threads)
$ ls -al /usr/doc/libc6-dev/*threads*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1470 Apr 11 12:39
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/ChangeLog.linuxthreads.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1178 Apr 7 17:31
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/Changes.linuxthreads.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2704 Mar 5 01:34
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/README.Xfree3.2.linuxthreads.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3294 Apr 7 17:52
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/README.linuxthreads.gz
For the rest: I'm glad it's got nothing[1] to do with libg++272, and
I feel good that I at least helped you one step further.
[1] it does have something to do: new debian policy says that libfoog should
conflict with libfoo-dev, and my libg++272 clearly doesn't conflict with
libg++27-dev. So, should fix that.
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Re: glibc
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
:
: On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote:
:
: Hmm I should have know. I installed LinuxThreads a while ago, but I
removed
: it when installing pthreads.
: And of course, right now, LinuxThreads refuses to compile..
:
: Seems the include files in /usr/include ain't correct anymore...
:
: LinuxThreads is integrated and included with libc6, there isn't a seperate
: package to install. If you've forced another thread lib dev package into
: installing, that would definatly cause you problems. You may want to
: reinstall all of the affected lib and dev packages.
Hmm okay, but if I try to remove some packages (libc5-dev needs to be
removed before libc6-dev can be installed), it complains about for example
ncurses. Will ncurses still work when I replace libc5-dev by libc6-dev ?
No, you need a new ncurses, available in masters' incomming.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg -r libc5-dev
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libc5-dev:
libgdbm1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
ncurses3.0-pic depends on libc5-dev.
libg++27-dev depends on libc5-dev.
ncurses3.0-dev depends on libc5-dev.
libgd1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
libdb1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
tcl76-dev depends on libc5-dev (= 5.4.0-0).
dpkg: error processing libc5-dev (--remove):
dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
libc5-dev
Is it too dangerous to use dpkg --force- ?
Better to remove all those libs (especially the libg++27-dev one:
why didn't you do so before installing libg++272-dev?), and try
and get libc6 ones. Not all are available, so you will not be able
to compile everything any more. Just bug the maintainers of packags
that don't have libc6 libraries yet.
Note, however, that due to Guy's vacation, new libc6 compiled
library pacakges (with new names) will not be installed in
unstable, and can thus only be found in master's incoming.
So, if yoy want to be a Real Man/Woman, don't track unstable,
that's for whimps: track master'sincomming (only available
for maintainers).
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Re: SVGA server for X86 3.3 (when?)
Anyone know when an SVGA server for XFree 3.3 will
be released? I hoping it will provide better support
for Trident's laptop chipsets.
couple of weeks ago, I think.
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Re: RPM to deb package conversion
According to the announcement for Debian 1.3 at the Debian web site,
dpkg can now be used to install RPM files (at least that's how I read it).
I upgraded to 1.3, but I don't see anything about this in the dpkg docs or
man page. I tried it on an rpm file ( dpkg -i something.rpm) but it didn't
work.
Anybody know how to use dpkg to install rpm packages?
Install the alien package. Then:
alien(1L) alien(1L)
NAME
alien - Convert or install an alien binary package
SYNOPSIS
alien [--to-deb] [--patch=file] [options] file
alien --to-rpm [options] file
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?
On Jun 18, joost witteveen wrote
Seriously, though: Is there a way (with procmail or other) that
I can automatically forward all email with non-existant
Reply-To: addresses to /dev/null? That would probably halve the
amount of spam I get.
Huh? You meant 'invalid', not 'non-existant', right?
Well, whatever you call an adress [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I'd
say that adress doesn't exist, but it's invalid too, I guess.
Most email doesn't
have an Reply-To... no need if the From address is correct. Assuming you
were talking about 'invalid' addresses, you'd probably need a small C/perl
program to check the addresses (you have to do a DNS lookup for MXes, etc.)
OK, yes, I got that far. But _where_ do I put that C/perl wrapper?
It doesn't seem like I can put it in ~/.procmailrc, while that
is actually where I'd like to put it (I don't mind mails from
mailinglists having invalid return adresses, there are many people
with adresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] on mailinglists, and
I'd like to be able to get email from them via the mailinglists).
Does anybody know the correct syntax for procmail/other mailfilter?
This actually doesn't work, and I couldn't find anything in
procmailrc(5).
:0
exec /usr/local/bin/check_sender
/dev/null
(where /usr/local/bin/check_sender would be started with the current
email as stdin, and if check_sender returns true (0), mail would
be saved in /dev/null (or another file -- probably /dev/null doesn't
work as procmail cannot really lock that file, I guess).)
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Re: fvwm95-2 won't work
Just installed it myself, from what I remember there is no default config
file. You have to rename one of the installed config files to what
fvwm95-2 is looking for (forgot the name right now).
This appears to be right, indeed (I would suggest that the postinst
of fvwm95-2 copyies that example system.fvwm2rc95 file, just before
the 'update-menus' call).
But there is (for the users) an other solution: just install the menu
package, and you'll get a system.fvwm2rc95 file that has most of
the applications that are installed on your system in it's menu.
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Re: making debian packages
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote: [Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] I've made my own deb file with polonisation stuff for tetex. I know that other people may want to use it so i think about putting it in contrib directory. Why in the contrib directory? Why don't you want to become a maintainer? Only if you don't want to maintain (correct bugs found) the package afterwards, it should be put in non free (there are other cases, but I don't think they apply here). Generally, Debian isn't too keen on non-maintained packages, as they will probably have to be removed in the future (when we use different libs etc), and will only result in user-irritation in the long run. How to become a maintainer: see First of all I WANT to maintain my package. But I don't have so much time to do all the things described in debian-policy. Are you sure you don't have enough time? You describe you've got beta testers trying you package (and apparently you fix the bugs they report), you are asking us on debian-user, so it seems to me you're an excelent candidate for a new debian package maintainer (only if you already know now that in one year time, you are never going to speak polish, or use debian any more, then you'd be a worce candidate, but that doesn't seem to be the case eigther) I've made this package and I want to share my work with others. Note, btw, that those others probably isn't restricted to polish Debian users: how about russian ones, that want to learn from how you did things? And, come to russian, even I would install tegex-ru (if it ever is released), as my brother lives in Moscow now and it might be fun to write something in russian to him. So, by making the package a true debian package, there may be many more people that indirectly benifit form your work than you realise. Second of all my package is not so typical becouse it's made rather as a bunch of other packages which can be found on the Net then my own work. I maintain about 10 different packages. Only one or two is my own work, the others are stuff found on the net. True, for example my gs package is mostly one package found on the net, but by collecting many different files around the internet, and putting them in the right locations so that polish people can write poslish out of the box, you are just making your package more valuable than just my gs package: If there were no gs package, people could easily download it themselves, and run it. Your package, however, saves many people a much more work. Becouse in tetex-pl (so it's called by me) there are 3 packages with non-GPL licencies and the main difference is that authors want to distribute the whole package with sources and not only separate files from it I had to put whole packages in tetex-pl. Now I know that it can by freely distributed (in sesn of GPL). But in fact there is no tetex-pl-source package at all (all sources and original docs are in tetex-pl) so as I understand I cannot put it in main distribution. It can be freely distributed so not in non-free. So I think myself that it should be in contrib directory. I am not sure I fully understand this: What I understand is: you downloaded package1, package2, and package3. You put the stuff in .../tetex-pl-0.1/package* on your harddisk, you created the files .../tetex-pl-0.1/debian/* to make the three packages combine to one debian package. Now, doing dpkg-buildpackage in the .../tetex-pl-0.1 directory should create the debian source package (tetex-pl_0.1-1.orig.tar.gz) [see footnote 1], the diffs, and the debian package (tetex-pl_0.1-1_i386.deb) etc. Also, package1 (or whatever) contains files that have to be kept together when distributed. But that's actualy what happens, as every Debian CD has got to have the source-code on it (to satisfy GPL (at least an old version of it)). So, I don't think distributing tetex-pl_0.1.orig.tar.gz would make the authors unhappy. So, if the above is correct, then you've got the source package already. As everything can be distributed with diffs (you didn't mention this, but I hope this is the case), it seems to me the stuff _can_ in fackt go in the main distribution. (if not, maybe you can ask the upstream authors of the package*, they probably didn't intend you to be unable to put their stuff in debian). [footnote 1]: maybe your problem is the .diff file, as that doesn't get created automatically. To do that, just (re-)untar package* in .../tetex-pl_0.1.orig/package* and run dpkg-buildpackage. Now the diffs aren't really against the upstream package, but against all upstream pacakges, but this should be OK. (just put a note in /usr/doc/tetex-pl/copyright on how you created the orig package.) So now you have much more information and I wait for good advise for me. Naturally thanks all of you for making such great product as Debian Apparently the main
Re: [coteau@westriv.com: Network Problem]
Hi there,
We have successfully loaded Linux (Debian 1.3) and have the xdm working
properly. We are using fvwm95 as the window manager. The problem we are
having is, when we try to telnet or ping to our other unix and linux
machines, the error message came nerwork is unreachable.
Have you setup your ip numbers, and routing etc correctly?
What's the output of:
route
ifconfig
(to configure this, edit /etc/init.d/network)
We checked the cables and all the necessary files, as mention in the
manuals.
No, network unreachable doesn't mean the cables are wrong, it ususally
means wrong routes.
These appears to be in order.
When we type the ps -ef command, no daemons appear to be running. If
you have any suggestion for us. Please e-mail us, we'll be thankful.
ps -ef shouldn't output deamon info. You've probably BSD/SysV syntax,
whereas Debian ps uses SysV/BSD syntax.
Try ps -ax
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
Seriously, I think they are fishing in the wrong place for idiots.
The snagg rate can be very low and still be very profitable when the
cost of doing business is being paid by others. Doesn't matter how small
that percentage is, given enough spam the return is sufficient to appear
profitable.
So, how about making everybody who wants to subscribe to debian-user
sign some statement that they will never by anything from spammers, ever?
Seriously, though: Is there a way (with procmail or other) that
I can automatically forward all email with non-existant
Reply-To: addresses to /dev/null? That would probably halve the
amount of spam I get.
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Re: making debian packages
[Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
I've made my own deb file with polonisation stuff for tetex. I know that
other people may want to use it so i think about putting it in contrib
directory.
Why in the contrib directory? Why don't you want to become a maintainer?
Only if you don't want to maintain (correct bugs found) the package
afterwards, it should be put in non free (there are other cases, but
I don't think they apply here). Generally, Debian isn't too keen
on non-maintained packages, as they will probably have to be removed
in the future (when we use different libs etc), and will only result
in user-irritation in the long run.
How to become a maintainer: see
http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-policy/
more specifically:
http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-policy/archive/debian-policy-2.1.3.3/ch-developer.html#s6.1
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Re: Bash 2.00 error in xterm
I use startx to launch my xserver. A default xterm comes up with no
error. However when I start a new xterm from the window manager, I get
the following error:
bash: /home/havenerk/.bashrc: line2: unexpected EOF while looking for
matching `''
bash: /home/havenerk/.bashrc: line3: syntax error: unexpected end of
file bash-2.00
here is my .bashrc:
# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells
PS1=\u\'@'\h\n\w
Question 1: since this used to work under bash 1.14, I presume it's
related to bash 2.00's posix compliance, but what 2.00 convention have I
broke? Where should I put the matching `'' to get the same functionality
as before?
Well, I seriously doubt if this worked under bash 1.14: you're messing
up the quotes. Eighter you want:
PS1=\u\'@'\h\n\w
or you want
PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
(I guess the latter). What you've got now is simply a unfished string.
Question 2: Why doesn't the error occur in the default xterm. After all
that isn't a login shell...is it?
Login shells parse ~/.bash_login, non-login shells (in xterm) parse
~/.bash_rc.
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auth.log: su(to root) fails 1000 times /min?
From my /var/adm/log.auth:
Jun 12 20:53:57 rulcmc su: (to root) joost on /dev/ttyp6
Jun 12 21:00:20 rulcmc su: (to root) joost on /dev/ttyp6
Jun 12 23:05:57 rulcmc su: FAILED SU (to root) joost on none
Jun 12 23:06:28 rulcmc last message repeated 552 times
Jun 12 23:07:29 rulcmc last message repeated 1069 times
Jun 12 23:08:30 rulcmc last message repeated 1165 times
[and so on, for hours]
Hell, I know I often misspell my root passwd, but 1165 times in 61
seconds? No, I'm sure I never did that.
Does anybody know what may cause this?
(joost is myself, and I'm quite sure nobody else who just cracked
my joost passwd would start attempting to su to root with thousands
different passwds: once somebody 's got joost, they've got root
without cracking the root passwd).
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Re: checkergcc
(sorry to duplicate, I had forgotten to type in the subject.)
Thank you for the help, now with the two libs the compilation works fine, but
at the execution I have :
visu: can't resolve symbol '_IO_stdout_'
visu: can't resolve symbol '_IO_stdin_'
Aren't standard? Do you see what is missing now ?
(I don't *think* I have the answer, but:)
These errors also appear when running binaries that are statically
linked against an old libc5 with recent X libraries. I _suspect_ the
checker libs were compiled whith old libc stuff installed. However
it should be easy to check this: upgrade to libc6, and install the
libc6 checker.
I can sortof understand you if you don't really want to do the above.
If you still want to try it out, I can get you an account on my libc6
machine, and you can test it out anyway.
The other test for my theory is: download the checker source (from bo),
and compile it yourself. Then install the pacakge you just created.
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Re: netbase, update-rc.d
I tried installing netbase 2.13-1, and recieved this error:
Setting up netbase (2.13-1) ...
/usr/sbin/update-rc.d: line 109: syntax error: unexpected end of file
dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
netbase
I tried re-installing update 1.2-1, thinking it might help. It didn't.
What should I do?
update-rc.d isn't from update, it's from dpkg:
$ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
dpkg: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
So, could you upgrade your dpkg to the one in bo, 1.4.0.8? That will
_probably_ fix it.
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Re: Screen grabbers?
I need to be able to grab some images off of an X windows session. I
remember hearing hints that xv could do this, but I can't find any
information on the subject.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Xv, click right mouse to get controls, click grab button just above
Quit (Quit's in on the bottum, to the right), then you'll get another
window, and click grab again: Now you can just click on any window
you want to be grabbed.
Note that you can also do this with:
xwd | xwud
(xwd gives a file to stdout; xv understands this format).
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Re: Screen grabbers?
On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Erv Walter wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
Works great, but seems to have some limits. I can't quite get the whole
screen in the selection box and get an image. Once I shrink the size of
the selection box sufficiently it creates an image. What determins the
size limitation?
As i recall, you can tell xv to grab an entire window and not do a
selection. This is on the window after pressing GRAB? Anyway, choose
entire window and click on the root window somewhere (background). It
grabs the entire screen. I have used it several times.
Thanks! That worked...sort of. I can grab the first screen this way, but
to grab a second one successfully, I must first kill off the xv session
and start a new one, which will also grab only the first attempt. Oh,
well, at least it works well enough to get the screens I needed.
I just want to advertise xwd again, it's so much easier:
xwd -root|xwdtopnm root.pnm
No buttons, no clicks, just pres enter!
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Re: SGVAlib/SVGAdummy
If SVGAdummy replaces SVGAlib why are there dependancy prblems with gs
etc?
Because gs etc depend on a specific version of svgalib, and dpkg drops
all provides: when there are version numbers in a dependancy.
This apparently will be corrected in dpgk.
Will these SVGAlib dependant programs run without SVGAlib if the dummy is
installed?
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Re: Xfree 3.3
Is this located in the unstable/x11/ section of the webpage? I looked at
it, and the version numbers are 3.3 but the descriptions of the packages
are the same as the old 3.2 versions.
You mean this description (for xbase):
Description: Local clients and configuration required by X
This package contains the basic X11R6 distribution. It includes the
basic clients and configuration files. It does not provide a
server--servers for several different video cards are included in
separate packages. This package also does not include the shared
libraries; for these you must install the xlib6 package. When a
server and the shared libraries are installed along with this package,
it provides a functional X Window System installation. For a more
complete installation you can install the xcontrib package.
But surely that description both applies to xbase_3.3 and xbase_3.2?
(You mention the web page, this actually comes from the ftp server,
but that should be the same anyway).
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Re: Please Help! Downgrading?
A friend of mine recently pointed dselect at unstable, instead of stable,
when frozen disappeared. Thus, nothing works anymore on his system.
Is there any way, short of a complete re-install, that he can go
easily back to 1.3? He's really upset with Debian right now, and
will go back to Slackware if there's no way, mostly because there
are no CDs with Debian that work.
Well, I'm running unstable too, without problems. So Thus, nothing works
sounds a bit strange to me. We'd be interested to know what doesn't
work, and why!
But, to help your friend, you might do something like
dpkg -i --selected-only --recursive $frozen-mirror
with $frozen-mirror the place where you mirror (or mounted) a image
of frozen. (I never tested this, only learned it from dpkg -h).
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Re: Problems with g++
On Jun 9, Sebastien Phelep wrote
gcc is 2.7.2.2-4; libg++ is 2.7.2.1-9 / 2.7.2.5-1
I guess it's because I've used unstable packages, but I'm note sure.
Does anybody knows what's the problem is ?
Debian's gcc 2.7.2.2 packages by default use with libc6; for libc6 you need
the libg++272 package.
2.7.2.5-1 is the libg++272 (libc6) package. but 2.7.2.1-9 is the libc5
version. So, my guess is that Sebastien has --force-depends installed
the libc5 devel package on a libc6 system.
$ dpkg -l 'libg++*'|grep '^i'
ii libg++272.7.2.1-9 The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
ii libg++272 2.7.2.5-1 The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
ii libg++272-dbg 2.7.2.5-1 The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
ii libg++272-dev 2.7.2.5-1 The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
If you get that output, the compiling g++ stuff should be OK.
(at least it's on my system).
As not all libraries are ready/available for libc6, it is probably best to
downgrade your gcc (using dpkg) to the 2.7.2.1 version, and put it (and
cpp) on Hold in dselect.
May work, but the g++ stuff works fine here (and I've got positive
reports from others too).
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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan:
That worked. As you said, there *should* be another way to specify
local packages. Though I can understand why update-menus does not add
an item if the package is not installed.
My preference is that a new test be added (or it might already exist, for
all I know), like:
?file(/usr/local/bin/vim): ...
/usr/doc/menu/BUGS now contains:
- update-menus:
? -package($p) is not general enough!
(Joey: file(/usr/local/bin/vim))
(the last line I just added).
The menu package used to allow any menu file starting with local to ignore
whether the package was installed or not, so you could make a local.vim menu
file. However, then the menu package changed a lot of things, and this no
longer works.
Yes, that was a bug introduced in menu-1.3. I fixed it now in the
source, but haven't tested it yet (and, just now I checked again
to see whether I fixed it and I saw I did mess it up slightly, but
now it should be OK, I think).
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Re: Install Stopped
Hello,
I was installing the new 1.3 version onto a 486 based PC when the
install stopped progressing. After formatting a second new floppy,
using rawrite2 again to create a second new rescue disk, then rebooting,
the exact same thing happened. I got as far as seeing a number of
screens of information fly by, then the install stopped. The
installation information said this may happen for periods of time, but I
figured that 2 hours was long enough. The last line on the screen each
time was:
Code: 80 38 00 74 07 40 4a 83 fa ff 75 f4 29 c8 c6 f7 c5 10 00
Is it me or does this look like a kernel panic?
Did the other lines look anything like:
kernel: EFLAGS: 00010286
kernel: eax: ffaa0055 ebx: 4100 ecx: 0075fc34 edx: 7c00
kernel: esi: 0147c810 edi: 315f5975 ebp: esp: 0019da1c
kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: ss: 0018
kernel: Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage=0019d694)
kernel: Stack: 0147c810 0075fc34 a8ee82ac 0075fc70 00145493 0147c810
0075fc34
kernel:315f5975 0034 001a2c40 0075fc20 0075fc70 a8ee82ac
001a3856
kernel:001abecc 0034 0013d6f7 0075fc70 001abecc 2101e584
0034
kernel: Code: 8b 40 48 2b 43 48 79 0d 68 77 20 19 00 e8 f4 f5 fc ff 83 c4
If so, you've found either a kernel problem, or a hardware problem
on your computer (probbly the latter). The stuff above comes from
my logfiles, and the way I god rid of it was by setting my CPU speed
somewhat lower (it was overclocked). You may have success with eighter
increasing RAM wait times, or replacing your ram (if possible).
I don't know if this screen information is useful, but I wasn't sure
what might be relevant.
If it really is a hardware/kernel problem, then the version of debian
etc souldn't matter too much (except that different debian versions have
different kernels).
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Re: Problems with xfig
1) in the option Picture Object I load an encapsulated
Postscript file. Everything works fine.
The next time I attempt to open this .fig file,
xfig quits without doing anything and gives the following
message in xterm
xfig3.1.4b: SIGSEGV signal trapped
xfig: figure empty or not modified - exiting
IOT trap/Abort
I haven't had this problem before (though I've seen similar problems).
Could you send me (uuencoded) the .fig and .eps file, so that I can
try and reproduce your problem?
2) at other times I try to expert the picture containing
jpg images into a postscript file. Xfig would not create
the file and would write
Wrong number of colors: 465
Unable to open EPS file 'empty': error: No such file or directory (2)
I presume the problem is with some drivers for the corresponding
picture formats or with the way ghostscript (ghostview) works.
Well, xfig uses ghostscript for postscript files, but if you just
include jpg's then ghostscript isn't used.
Does anyone have an idea what is happening and how to fix it ?
I really appreciate your help.
No, I don't have any idea. But I would like to reproduce your
problems here (could you sent me the .jpg too, with an .fig
that loads it and generates errors? Just one uuencoded .tar.gz
file would be great).
Thanks,
Your surprised debain xfig maintainer.
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Re: was Netscape Communicator: now programs that will crash your LInux box
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, James D. Freels wrote:
There is another program that will crash your Linux box: wordIMperfect.
Yes I'm talking about the native Linux wordIMperfect. For example try
paging through a document that has alot of EPS graphics figures. If
you do it too fast, it will crash your system. There are other ways
to do it also, some I don't know how to repeat.
This might be a libc problem. That seems to have been the problem
with Netscape Communicator. Graphic intensive pages seemed to be
one of it's first noticed crash and reboot sequences.
A libc, netscape, WordPerfect problem should _NEVER_ crash linux itself.
(for the kernel, libc is just a part any application like netscape/gcc,etc,
so bugs in libc should, just like bugs in netscape, not crash linux).
Do you guys really mean crashing linux, as in a solid system crash, not
be able to telnet into your mashine, etc? Or just a sigseg of
netscape/whatever?
Today, I just discovered StarOffice. I can already tell it is much
better than wordIMperfect. Plus, you have all the other tools. Now
if I could just find the documentation so I could learn how to use
it...
As I understand it, the english documentation is not yet completed.
You could learn another language or two ;-)
I speak Dutch, that's similar to German, but not enough to be able
to read it -- Yes, I've had German at school, and maybe enghough to be
able to read the documentation in emergencies, but not while I still
have Emacs/TeX.
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Re: [Q] update-menus broken in 1.3?
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Brad Bell wrote:
and put it in /etc/menu. anything that starts with 'local' is installed,
regardless of what debian packages are installed. this is an inadequately
documented feature of menu (buried in a changelog file... hmpth :P )
whoops! i guess i'll have to retract this statement-- it is indeed in the
new docs! sorry--
Well, if that's true, I'll have to rewrite the docs: it doesn't work
for new-format menuentry files (and the ones in /usr/lib/menu/default
are new-format).
In menu_1.4-1 (not released yet) you will be able (for new-format menuentries)
to do something like:
?package(local.vim):
But unfortunately, this doesn't work in 1.3 (I'd consider that a bug).
For the old-format menuentries (the ones that don't start with a ? on
the first colum), update-menus looks at the filename to decide
whether to include that menuentry. For the new-format menuentries,
update-menus looks at the ?package(...) stuff in the menuentry file
itself, and _not_ at the filename any more.
The new (1.4) README will have this paragraph:
* (User-) Configuring the menu's
A user can specify her/his own menu entries in the ~/.menu directory.
The files can have any name you want, and should start with eighter:
?package(installed-package):
or, if it's something that isn't debian-officially installed, with
?package(local.mystuff):
Any package that starts with local. is considered installed.
(due to a bug in menu-1.3 this didn't work then).
If your using old format menuentryfiles should have names of
installed packages, or local.name, as update-menus assumes any
package who's name starts with local is installed.
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Re: libc5 version 5.4.23-6
I'm not sure what the sequence was but I somehow have managed to get
a version 5.4.23-6 of libc5 installed. Running dselect using the ftp
method from ftp.debian.org and with the distributions as
frozen unstable hamm/contrib hamm/non-free
shows version 5.4.23-4 of libc5 as the available version. I also have
libc5-altdev installed but at version 5.4.23-4. It depends on
libc5-5.4.23-4 so I get a dependency problem whenever I try to select
with dselect.
Would this inconsistency in versions be a problem? Should I manually
download and install libc5-5.4.23-4.deb?
I'm not sure whether it would be a problem -- it will be if the
upstream versions differ, but I doubt whether just different
debian revisions cause problems. However, I'd advice you to not
install different versions of libc5 and libc5-altdev, just to be
sure. Why not download libc5-altdev_5.4.24-6?
As you may surmise from my using libc5-altdev, I also have libc6 and
libc6-dev installed. I am running into a few problems. For example,
I am unable to compile a new kernel with either /usr/bin/gcc or
/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/bin/gcc (details available upon request).
I've got libc6 installed, to, but have no problems compiling kernels
(well, 2.0.31-pre2 that is).
dpkg -l | egrep libc# show installed versions of libc-related pkgs
$ dpkg -l | egrep libc
rc libc4.6.27-6 The Linux C library.
ii libc4 4.6.27-15 The Linux C library version 4 (run-time libr
ii libc5 5.4.23-4 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr
ii libc5-altdev5.4.23-4 The Linux C library version 5 (alternative d
ii libc5-pic 5.4.23-3 Kit for building specialized versions of the
ii libc6 2.0.3-4 The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)
ii libc6-dbg 2.0.3-4 The GNU C library version 2 (debugging/profi
ii libc6-dev 2.0.3-4 The GNU C library version 2 (development fil
ii libc6-doc 2.0.3-4 The GNU C library version 2 (documentation f
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Re: neXtaw
I've installed neXtaw and the /etc/ld.so.conf is correctly configured. I'm
not a programmer myself, but I used ldd to check dynamic libraries.
However not all the programs used the new neXtaw. For example, xftp does
but xbmbrowser and xterm do not. They do if I do LD_PRELOAD before hand.
No they don't (or if xterm does, you'll have found a another *GOOD*
reason to delay the release of bo another few weeks/months).
xterm is setuid root, so if you were able to specify what libraries xterm
uses by simply setting LD_PRELOAD, you'd be able to write your own
Xaw (or libc or whatever) wich will then run as root. Not a very good
idea.
I don'
t know about xbmbrowser (don't seem to have it on my system), but
maybe something similar.
Also a lot of programs crash with neXtaw but not Xaw3d and Xaw. Is there a
way to individually configure each program to use a certain library
without using LD_PRELOAD.
Link them with the -rpath option, specifying the library you want it
to use.
This is for configureing menus in Afterstep.
(This part I don't understand).
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Re: Is xdm required?
Is it possible to upgrade to 1.3 without installing xdm?
Well, xdm comes with the xbase package, so, if you don't want to
install xdm, you'd have to live without X at all. But, if you want
to just upgrade 1.3, without automatically activating xdm, that's
very possible (it'll ask you at install time whether you want
xdm to be setup).
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Re: What happened to seyon and xoj?
don't know about seyon, but
The xoj package also no longer exists in bo/binary/games, though the
Contents file for bo still shows it. There is a version of xoj in
unstable/binary/games/xoj_1.01-2.deb, but it depends on libc6 so it
can only be used on an hamm system. Why did the libc5 dependent
version disappear from bo?
xoj_1.01-1.deb, the one that depended on libc5, was miscompiled
by the debian maintainer (about 3 bugs filed against that package,
over a 6 month perioud, I think), and finaly he decided to recompile
it. As the libc5 version simply doesn't work, I guess the powers
that be decided (wisely) to remove it from bo.
In short, there hasn't been a working xoj package for the last
6 or so months (except maybe if you had _very_ old libc5 stuff), and the
xoj-..-2 one is the first working one.
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Re: ps, pdf viewer
Well, I did install GV and it does look good!
GV says it can display PDF if GS is ver 4 or better.
Debian does not have GS v4, its still at 3 something...
Time for an updated GS package!? :)
I believe somebody else already told you you were wrong there.
But if you want a not-so-good, but much faster pdf viewer
than gv+gs-aladdin, you may want to try xpdf.
On Fri, 30 May 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote:
Debian has the GhostView and GV packages, but which does everyone like ?
From reading the descriptions, GV looks better.
Far better.
...RickM...
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Re: gzip always gives me error
# dpkg -i povray-manual_3.0.10-3.deb
gzip: stdout: Broken pipe
Could you check the file povray-manual_3.0.10-3.deb ?
Is it equal to:
bo/binary-all/graphics$ ls -al povray-manual_3.0.10-3.deb
-r--r--r-- 1 joostusers 1518294 Apr 10 21:57
povray-manual_3.0.10-3.deb
bo/binary-all/graphics$ md5sum povray-manual_3.0.10-3.deb
7643ca13c6e3f0e527fc9ab2015661f3 povray-manual_3.0.10-3.deb
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Re: where is xload
My 'deluser' is lost also. Any hints on that?
Use userdel from the passwd package.
I believe userdel is better than the deluser that used to come with
the adduser package, so deluser was removed.
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Re: rwhod
Martin Schulze:
I believe there are security concerns. Via rwho protocol your machine
distributes information on who is logged in. So you are able to play
big brother and generate personal profiles for instance.
[..]
Since broadcast packets shouldn't leave your local network, I don't think
that anyone in the outside world can listen in on the rwho messages, so I
_think_ it's safe for use if you trust all the hosts on your subnet.
The only reason I have for not running rwho is that one morning,
back in the 1.1.57 days, when I got to the laboritory, my computer was
swiched of, all cables disconected, panic notices were distributed
around the room, and the sysadmin here were spreading panic messages
like fire. Turned out the computer department had a problem with
their system, and related it with my computer -- so the systemadmin
here went compleately crasy.
The only thing I could find in my syslogs before my computer was swiched
off, were a few rwho messages. That's why I'd be weary to start that
service up again, not because I'm on a 100 computer subnetwork: I don't
really care if others see who's logged on here.
(Yeah, I know you're not intereseted in this tragic story about
computer abuse by systemadmins, but I'm still traumatised, and just needed
to vent this).
BTW, the systemadmin that went out of his mind back then has left, so
maybe I can try starting rwho once more? I'm sure it wasn't rwho
that was causing it, anyway.
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Re: Had to reset, now in deep kimshee....]
/usr/ is loaded into the second partition on my hard disk. The
fsck for the second partition is occurring after all the module
failures, so it seems perhapps that the book sequence has gotten
messed up somehow, if the modules are loaded from /usr
No, in /etc/init.d/boot I read that modules are supposed to be loaded
before the fsck. This is probably because some of the filesystems may
need those modules.
However, the modules aren't supposed to be loaded from /usr: they
are supposed to live in /lib/modules, and the insmod executable
is in /sbin, so there _should_ be no problem. Did you messabout
with your system?
If I go back to the rescue floppy, how much damage can I do to
the software already loaded? All I intend to do is to select and
load modules
Well, you _can_ do a lot of damage, but if you're carefull
and don't do things like rm -rf /, then you probably will not
do too much damage. (But _DO_ unmount all filesystems before
the next reboot -- or if this fails atleast type sync).
Is there a fix that I am not aware of? Some way to reorder the
fsck of /hda2 to occur before the module loads are tried?
See above -- should not be needed.
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Re: Had to reset, now in deep kimshee....]
However, the modules aren't supposed to be loaded from /usr: they are
supposed to
live in /lib/modules, and the insmod executable is in /sbin, so there
_should_ be
no problem. Did you messabout with your system?
Nope. I didn't touch the modules, path, boot files
or records.
Then your modules got loaded properly, or they were bad before too.
No /usr stuff is needed for the loading of the modules, as you suggest
above.
I was suprised that running X, with no window
manager, hung the Alt-F1, Alt-F2... console login
switch as well, since that was the first thing I
tried in order to log in and kill the process.
Under X, you need to type Control_Alt_F1 etc.
bascially, there are several ways to proceed.
If you boot via LILO, then the best thing to do is to type at the
lilo prompt:
linux emergency
(replacing linux for your kernel image, press TAB).
Then none of the startup scripts are executed, and you can try to go
through the bootup manually, and checking what went wrong.
If the above doesn't work (your' not using lilo, for example), just
boot from a floppy, and try to mount your root filesystem on /mnt,
cd to it and examine what may have gone wrong, possibly correcting
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Re: where is xload
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Hi!
I upgraded to (pre-)debian-1.3 and lost my xload!
Grepping Contents tells me that it should be contained in Package
xcontrib, but there is no xload in the xcontrib-package.
Where is it gone?
$ dpkg -S xload
[..]
xproc: /usr/X11R6/bin/xload
[..]
It was moved away from xcontrib to xproc.
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Re: core when running C++ programs..
Hello all!
I'm having a weird problem compiling anything with the C++ libraries.
When I try to run the program, I always get the message:
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Just to give an example, for instance if I compile the following
program I get this core dump:
main.cc:
int main()
{
return 0;
}
Now, clearly, this as simple as you can get.
Yes, I don't think you can get it much simpler than that!
Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce your problems.
Could you tell me:
- are you using lib6 or lib5 (if you've got a unstable system, I'd assume
lib6).
- then, you are telling me you're using libg++27 and libg++27-dev.
that's not possible, they're for libc5. Could you try installing
libg++272* in that case?
- the output of ldd main (for a main that segfaults).
I would just like to point out that this is a new install of
Debian 1.3 using the unstable stream (which I don't have problems
with on another machine right now) which was downloaded yesterday
from ftp.debian.org. I have tried re-downloading libg++27-dev
and libg++27 and reinstalling it but this didn't fix anything.
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Re: GCC Libraries
In my /usr/lib/gcc-lib directory, the only directory entry is for
i486-linux. My machine is a 386. Do I have to get the GCC sources and
recompile, or will these libs work on my machine?
They'll work just fine.
You may want to upgrade your machine though!
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Re: root user and nfs mounts
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Currently I mount my home directory from a departmental AIX machine using
the following exports on the AIX machine:
/home3/telmerco -access=sargan:terrapin
and the following fstab on my debian hamm machine:
qed:/home3/telmerco /home/telmerco/qed nfs defaults 0 0
Given this setup, as root I cannot cd into /home/telmerco/qed.
[why root would like to cd anyway deleted]
I dug through
the man pages for nfs(5) and mount(8) and it seems like I could use
something that maps root uid 0 to an anon uid that I specify, for example,
208 (telmerco's uid). Is this possible?
Well, it isn't what you want. The mapping of uid 0 happens on the server
(the AIX in your case), and, as root cannot cd to your home dir, they've
already got that setup correctly [1]. What happens is that when root
cd's to your nfs mounted home dir, root gets maped to uid nobody, and
nobody tries to cd into that dir.
The only way I see you can allow root (thus nobody, unless you can
convince the AIX people to throw away all security on their
system) to cd into your home dir, is by chmod-ing your home dir to
something like 777. But then _everybody_ can do that -- probably not
what you want.
I'm not sure how tob works, but if it works anything like dd of=/dev/tape,
you could try something like
(su telmerco -c tar -cvzf - /home3/telmerco) | dd of=/dev/tape
Is it safe?
As long as the AIX people do their job properly, you cannot do anything
unsafe. And you cannot do what you want, I think.
And finally, is there
a better way to do it? Cheers, Colin.
Depends on tob. (see above).
[1] had they not done that, you'd be root very quickly on that system,
probably.
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Re: Weierd afterstep-1.0-3 problem
On May 22, Kevin Hilman wrote
It installs with no complaints, but i can't run it.
I can run it if I download and compile the source myself, but I'd like
to get the .deb working to use on multiple machines.
What is going on here? what file is missing here?
The package seems to require ld-linux.so.2 (try strings
afterstep). I already reported that one to the maintainer.
And (as you probably know) that means you need to install
libc6 to get it working (and, ldso-1.9*). (The package needs
to depend on libc6).
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Re: debian libc5-dev installation version problem - my crude? fix.
I get an error when dselect tries to install libc5-dev.
It depends on the previous installation of
libc5 version 5.4.20-1 but version 5.4.23-3 is what
was installed. Apparently the version test for the installation of
libc5-dev has the = sign instead of = sign for checking the version
of libc5. So the installation is rejected.
So I got around this by editing the /var/lib/dpkg/status file.
I went to the point in the file where the libc5 version was
recorded. I edited the version number to 5.4.20-1. It worked!
but now when you compile stuff, I'm afraid it will all be statically
linked (not realy sure, but I do *think* so). Anyway, the libc5 versions
on bo really are both 5.4.23, and you really should install the same
versions of each package. That's why it's got the = sign.
OK experts, did I do good or at the very least, good enough?
I think you'd better check the mirror -- it doesn't seem to be
up-to-date. My mirror has libc5 version 5.4.23-3 (that's the bo mirror)
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Re: libc6-dev
How do I put libc6-dev on my system with libc5-dev
You should not do that. they install the header files in the same
locations, so they mess eachother up realy good.
without having
to reinstall all my other -dev packages?
If you install libc6-dev, you'll also have to install the libc6 compiled
other lib*-dev packages. The problem is that currently there aren't many
other libc6 dev compiled lib packages.
If I select libc6-dev
in dselect, I get 10 or so conflicts of packages that it wants to
remove before it will allow me to put libc6 on.
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Re: JPEG utilities
I see that there are many JPEG utilites/viewers for both SVGAlib and X.
However, what I need is a command line program that will return the
dimensions, # of colors, etc. for an image. Is there such a beast? I
know it's readily available if you understand the file format but I
don't yet and was hoping to avoid writing any C.
(cat filename.jpg|djpeg -v -targa/dev/null) 21|sed -n -e 's/Start Of
Frame.*://p'
works for me, though probably there are more straigt forward ways!
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Re: libc6 question
Hi,
I have a quick question about libc6. I see from the email describing the
new packages available that many are now built with libc6. Does this mean
that I need to have libc6 installed to run these packages.
Well, uhm, let's say yes.
I don't want to
install libc6 yet because of possible glitches. Thanks
As far as I know, there are *no* glitches, at least not with
the old libc5 programmes still on your system. The only thing
that *might* go wrong, in case there are bugs in libc6, are
the new libc6 programmes.
And, as long as you don't install libc6-dev, and the latest libc6 gcc,
you will still compile your programmes as libc5.
So, the answer: go ehead, install libc6.
One drawback: for libc6, you'll need ldso-1.9 (unstable) That
one has no errors, (well, none that I know of), except that if
you ever decide to downgrade ldso, it'll itself from the system,
and your system will be unusable. But as long as you don't do
that, I don't think you'll find problemes.
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Re: Network mounting problems
Hello All:
I have been running into a vexing problem with a cluster of 8 Debian
machines I am using for a Course in Computational Physics.
All of the machines are running Debian 1.2 as installed in December 1996.
I have not wanted to do much upgrading during the course of the semester.
so students can log into any one of the machines and find their data
files.
The problem is that if the systems are left to run for an extended period
of time (over a week usually but as little as a few days even!) the /home
directory becomes inaccessible at login even though the df command shows
it to be mounted. This causes a great deal of problems and means that I
have to reboot the machines regularly. It also means that if I am not
around people start to complain. As a side note, the server is usually
quite stable and stays up for many weeks at a time. Just the other
machines need to be rebooted because of this problem. The kernel version
is 2.0.27.
So, I assume the clients mount their /home from a (the?) server via NFS?
If so, I used to have a lot of problems with the old nfsd, that used
to die on my every so often (escpecially if two clients mount and read
from the nfs disks at the same time). This was solved by upgrading to
a more recent nfsd. But alas, you don't indicate that any nfsd dies,
so you may be running into another problem. Still, upgrading the
server's nfsd (from the netstd package) may improve matters.
Currently installed on my system (without problems):
$ /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd -v
Universal NFS Server 2.2beta25
$ dpkg -l netstd
ii netstd 2.13-1 Networking binaries and daemons for Linux
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Re: seyon
I've downloaded seyon recently, because I understand (perhaps
incorrectly) that it provides a terminal emulator cum dialer for use in
the X environment.
Did you download the debian package? (there's one in non-free, if
I remember correctly).
Having done so, how do I invoke it? I tried seyon
from within xterm, but it says ksh: seyon: not found. I did a find /
-type f -name seyon on a regular (ALTF1) shell as root, and it
found only /usr/lib/menu/default/seyon. I also tried man seyon but no
man entry was found. Anyone have a clue for me?? TIA.
man seyon works for me. So, you eighter have real problem with
your system installation[1], or you didn't install the debian
package, but tried one on your own. That should also work, but
if you want to start, the debian package is usually easier.
If you do install a debian package, and you really don't know
where to look for documentation, you can always try
dpkg -L seyon
and you'll see a list of files in that package. Then you'll see
wat manual pages/other docs the package installes.
[1] Another possibility is that your debian package (if you installed
the debian package) is newer, and contains (many) bugs. My version is
seyon_2.14c-4, but there may well be much more recent versions out
(I don't upgrade non-free packages very often/at all).
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Re: Problem when compiling X-Programs
I am trying to compile X-Programs, but I cannot link them. I get always the
messages libraries Xaw, Xmt not found.
This arise when I try to compile the last version of X-Board, but I have all
these libraries installed in /usr/X11R6/lib.
I'll answer this one several times:
-direct answer:
Add -L/usr/X11R6/lib to the gcc commandline when linking (the last
stage)
-somewhat more complete answer:
Most X programmes come with an Imakefile, that is used to generate
a Makefile that is tailored to the local system with the xmkmf command,
that knows excactly where all libraries/headerfiles/whatever are
on the local system. Your best bet is to check if your app
has an Imakefile, and if it does, run xmkmf. This
(on any Debian system, anyway) will generate an Makefile that
knows correctly where the X libs are.
-YetAnotherAnswer:
Doesn't debian have an X-Board package (GNU something?).
In that case, simply get the xboard files from your debian mirror,
run dpkg-source -x xboard*.dsc, cd to the sourcedir, and run
./debian/rules build. This _should_ do everything correctly,
and if not, file a bug report against the Xboard pacakge.
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Re: one thing latex is better than tetex
previously, dvips gave me ps file with page numbering and I can
go to a particular page using ghostview or gv.
after I installed tetex and found that the ps file no more numbered
and I can only press Page Down in gv, can't get back.
Is there any magic to make tetex's dvips number the ps file?
Well, I've still got the old latex packagres installed, but
just reading the docs, could you try:
dvips -N0 myfile.dvi
-N turns structuring commands off (and I'm hoping the page numbers
are part of the document structuring), while -N0 should undo that
again (turning it on).
Of cource I could not test it.
Still, I think it's a bug in the tetex packages, if true.
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Re: upgrade to debian 1.3
On Apr 29, Danny ter Haar wrote
During the upgrade i saw the following message:
Update-menus: Dpkg is locking dpkg status area: forking to background
and wait for /var/lib/dpkg/lock to become unlocked.
Setting up lynx (2.7-2) ...
Configuration file `/etc/lynx.cfg'
[...]
The default action is to keep your current version.
*** lynx.cfg (Y/I/N/O/Z) [default=N] ? unable to lock dpkg status
database(/var/lib/dpkg/lock)
This means your system is messed up badly. Aborting.
Somebody can shed some light on this ?
Just a guess (Joost, please comment): update-menus is expensive to run
Yes, but that's not the main reason.
This was done by some form of waiting until dpkg's
lock was removed, and then locking it for update-menus. Your example shows
that this does (unfortunately) not indicate that the dpkg run is complete,
and that this interferes with normal dpkg operation.
To be more precise, I try to lock the dpkg file, and then
_immediately_ afterwards, unlock it:
fd=open(DPKG_LOCKFILE, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0660);
fl.l_type= F_WRLCK;
fl.l_whence= SEEK_SET;
fl.l_start= 0;
fl.l_len= 1;
if (fcntl(fd,F_SETLK,fl) == -1) {
if (errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == EAGAIN)
return 1;
cerrunable to lock dpkg status database(DPKG_LOCKFILE)endl
This means your system is messed up badly. Aborting.;
exit(1);
}
fl.l_type= F_UNLCK;
fl.l_whence= SEEK_SET;
fl.l_start= 0;
fl.l_len= 1;
if (fcntl(fd,F_SETLK,fl) == -1){
Note also that the error message is from update-menus
(yes, I just chaged update-menus to put it's name before that error
message). The code comes directly from dpkg, btw, but I chaged the
error message. At the line of the unable to ..., dpkg has (dpkg/lib/lock.c):
if (fcntl(dblockfd,F_SETLK,fl) == -1) {
if (errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == EAGAIN)
ohshit(status database area is locked - another dpkg/dselect is running)
;
ohshite(unable to lock dpkg status database);
Maybe this is a solution: let update-menus use a lock file of its own to
prevent concurrent runs, and have the single active run wait until dpkg's
lock file is gone before doing the expensive operations?
update-menus acutally does have it's own lock file (/var/run/update-menus.pid).
The main reason why update-menus checks for a running dpkg is that
it has to know what packages are installed (to create the menu's
files). While dpkg is still running, it doesn't update the
/var/lib/dpkg/info/status file, and thus update-menus would see the
old status file (the one from before dpkg was started).
I'm not sure there was actually an error in the above lynx install
session (appart from the possibly wrong error message) Apparently, the
manpage for fcntl has:
F_SETLK The lock is set (when l_type is F_RDLCK or
F_WRLCK) or cleared (when it is F_UNLCK). If the
lock is held by someone else, this call returns
-1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.
So, probably I should also test for EACCES. (why doesn't dpkg does this?)
Anybody know more about this?
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Re: upgrade to debian 1.3
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
...
I'm not sure there was actually an error in the above lynx install
session (appart from the possibly wrong error message)
... If the
lock is held by someone else, this call returns
-1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.
So, probably I should also test for EACCES. (why doesn't dpkg does this?)
Perhaps dpkg mmaps the file, so it always gets EAGAIN.
No, it doesn't (read the code I showed, and you'll see that
errno excactly is not EAGAIN, that's what I test for).
Anyway, I had this error while dpkg was installing hdimage for dosemu.
Everything got installed fine, so the error message is in error. :)
update-menus wasn't run, that's all (very slight error).
You probably should log messages via syslog so that they don't mess
with output from foreground jobs.
Fortunatly I didn't, as otherwise people never would see when it happens.
I am glad I now at least know that the fcntl() call also can give
something else than EWOULDBLOCK or EAGAIN (that's what these
messages prove), I'll just go and check what the other thing
is (probably it's EACCES).
AFA I can see open() should block
until dpkg run is complete
The fd=open(DPKG_LOCKFILE, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0660);
call above doesn't block. (otherwise, none of the messages above
would appear!).
-- the only test I can think of is to poll
with non-blocking open() and see if it makes any difference.
So this is not needed.
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log of talk session?
Does anyone know how to get a log of a talk
session? It doesn't have to be perfect (showing
the exact microsecond of each keystroke), but just
a list of sentences that were typed, showing roughly
the corresponding times would be fine with me
(well, I'd be very happy, actually).
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(no, I don't know what that does eighter, but it does have
something to do with criptography. Apparently Pixar would
have been in big trouble, had I not defused the munition above)
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Re: log of talk session?
Does anyone know how to get a log of a talk
session? It doesn't have to be perfect (showing
YTalk has a logging function.
Thanks! (To everybody who replied, and I also like the irc suggestion)
Now, why does ytalk make me think it can only work with X when I
do :
$ TERM=vt100 DISPLAY= ytalk joost
Cannot open X display: No such file or directory
Why doesn't it just enable the -x option (yeah, when all else
fails, read the docs, and -x _is_ in ytalk(1), so it's not that
bad).
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Re: NOT urgent: 586 assumptions?
Why is this URGENT? although quite a few people use 486's none
have reported problems like your's so it isn't all that urgent I think.
But, to give more info about your question:
I used to have a CYRIX 486, that gave me floating point errors.
This apparently was due to a bug in the CYRIX (wasn't there with
other 486's or pentiums).
And, to reassure you: I've got quite a few 486-33 computers running here
with rahter recent unstable installations, none of them give
divide-by-zero errors.
Are there vital packages (like libc maybe?) that are compiled with
the assumption of a Pentium processor? I've lately (approximately
but not exactly since I upgraded to libc 5.4.2x) started having
machine failures with untrappable divide-by-zero errors. The machine
is a 3 year old 486/33, so it's quite possibly hardware, but it struck
me as something that could possibly be due to a change in libc or
the like... maybe? ideas? help!
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Re: fvwm2 menus burned
Dima writes:
I dunno about changing stuff on reboot, but the easiest way to fix
fvwm2 is to put your customizations in ~/.fvwm2/*.hook files.
You'll probably need to experiment a little to get it right -- I did,
but if you get stuck I can send you my config files.
I did that. But now something keeps adding a DestroyMenu MainMenu to
the /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook file, so my premainmenu.hook stuff
gets wiped out by it. It started after the last upgrade, to the BETA
version. I have `bug` reported it.
If you've got the menu package installed, the /etc/x11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook
file is auto-generated by update-menus, and thus should not be
edited. If you want to add menuentries, you can
-add them to the end of the menu in your /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc
-remove the DestroyMeny\\n in /etc/menu-methods/fvwm2.
Menu-1.0 (to be released shortly) will add this is a auto-generated
file, don't edit at the top of /etc/x11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook.
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Re: X related questions
- I have Debian 1.2 installed with kernel 2.0.27, when I boot the system,
the last thing the system do, before asking me for the user and password,
is start the xdm program. Then the system change to the seventh tty and
change the apperance from text to graphical. I move to the first console
using CTRL+ ALT+F1 and entering to a new user I try to start the XF86
using startx the system answers me:
Why don't you just type in the username and passwd in the xdm login
screen? (that's where you're supposed to do it). Apparently you don't
get that screen (on the seventh tty, in your story). What does (eventually)
show up on that seventh tty?
I suppose that the solution could be change the boot xdm start but I
don't know how to do it.
first type runlevel, and see what level you are booting in (runlevel
is in /sbin/runlevel). Then, if runlevel says N 4, you're in level
4, and type
cd /etc/rc4.d
mv S99xdm K99xdm
and you're set.
So, what's your second problem?
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Re: update-menus
On Apr 12, Paul Wade wrote
I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where
user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too.
Good point. This would bring us one step closer to a debian configuration
tool. Would you like to discuss this topic with the particular maintainer
to get them 'registrated' - and to let them look similar.
I guess we should. However, the way I've been doing that so far is simply
installing most of what happens to be on my system in /usr/lib/menu/default,
to show a (by me) accepted look. After some time, people start to
expect menuentries for stuff, and people automatically start fileing
bugreports against packages that don't supply menuentries.
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Re: update-menus
Joey Hess wrote:
I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time
snip
That's a good idea (nice to see you're using my pdmenu program, btw :-)
I'm cc'ing this to Joost, since he handles the menu package. Joost, I think
this submenu for configuration scripts should be called Apps/System/Admin
I'd prefer something that starts with /etc (or perhaps links from /etc/?
to Apps/...). As a long time sysadm that's where I hope to find system
administration stuff.
We all like to see the _files_ appear in /etc. But Joey is talking
about the location in the menu's (pdmenus, fvwm*, afterstep, whatever).
And then, I'll agree with Joey that Apps/System/Admin is a very good place.
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Re: update-menus
I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where
user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too.
For now, I am trying to build a list of such config commands as I
encounter them.
That's a good idea (nice to see you're using my pdmenu program, btw :-)
And that you're using the menu's, btw :-)
But seriously, I emaild this to the list yesterday (I think), but it hasn't
shown up here yet. So, I'll post it again (after modifying the some lines).
I agree with Joey that Apps/System/Admin would be a better place.
Also, I'd like to suggest these menuentries (in the new format):
needs=text command=/usr/sbin/liloconfig section=Apps/ReConfig title=Lilo \
longtitle=Reconfigure the way you boot \
privileges=root
then the menu-methods can install this menuentry as something like
(fvwm2):
+ Lilo Exec /usr/bin/X11/xterm -T Lilo -e /usr/sbin/needpriv -id root -c
/usr/sbin/
liloconfig
and /usr/sbin/needpriv will do things like:
#!/bin/bash
#set $command and $id
if test $id != $USER; then
echo You are about to run $command, but you'll need $id privileges for that.
echo Enter $id password:
. (su to $id, and so on).
This way, you don't need to run the window manager as root to be able to run
the lilo config programme. I'll supply the /usr/sbin/needpriv script with
the menu package.
Anyone any comments?
Thanks,
--
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
Re: next release of debian...
On Apr 13, A. M. Varon wrote
Hi,
I would like to know the date of the next release of debian. I'm a bit
confused, some say debian 1.3 ... others say that it's debian 2.0?
At the moment official documents date it on April 28. We'll see if
this is reasonable.
And April 28 will be the release date of 1.3.
The release after 1.3 will be 2.0, and will have glibc in it.
For 1.3 is at the moment being tested by a special testing team,
and is thus, for that team only, already released.
There is already talk about what should be in the release after
1.3, and people discussing this may say the next release should
have glibc in it, forgetting that, officially, 1.3 hasn't been
released yet.
--
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
Re: update-menus
I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where
user config is allowed, it would be placed on their menus, too.
You can run update-menus any time you want.
But: Update-menus is more like /usr/sbin/install-info than
gpmconfig: update-menus doesn't ask the user questions. In that
respect, it isn't very usefull to run update-menus every so often
(it just takes time).
However, users or systemadmins who read update-menus(1) and menufiles(5)
(the manual pages), learn that they can change the menufiles
in ~/menu/ (user) or /etc/menu (systemadmin), and then running update-menus
is usefull. (much like adding a file to /usr/local/info, and then
running install-info to add that to the info directory).
For now, I am trying to build a list of such config commands as I
encounter them.
That will be a very usefull document. However, (see above) I'm
not sure update-menus is suitable for that list, but that's for
you to decide (and if the answer is yes, please add install-info
too).
Thanks,
--
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
Re: Replacing svgalib1 with svgalib-dummy1
How do I replace an installed svgalib1 with svgalib-dummy1?
Running dpkg -i svgalib-dummy1_1.2.10.deb says this:
[complains]
And dpkg --purge svgalib1 complains about a few packages (like gs) that
depend on svgalib1...
Would:
dpkg --force-depends --purge svgalib1
dpkg --install svgalib-dummy1_1.2.10.deb
be the right thing to do?
I just tried it (I needed a dpkg -r svgalib1-dev in between, BTW),
and it worked OK. (and, gs 3.33 still runs afterwards).
(How safe is --force-depends, anyway? Can I safely use it if I check the
Depends: lines of the packages manually and see that I have the programs I
need?)
Well, I usually trust dpkg when it says I have packages installed
that depend on the package I'm about to remove.
For example, in this cace, dpkg was right (you do need svgalib1 to run
gs, even under X11), and I think svgalib-dummy1 is missing the
Replaces: svgalib1
line (this appears making and upgrade from gs to gs-aladding easier).
--
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
Re: md5 checksums on binaries
Are md5 checksums available for individiual binaries within
each package?
Yes they are. Just get the .deb package, extract the binary file you
want the md5 for, and run md5 on it.
If the md5 for the whole package matches, that means none of the
files in the package is corrupted, and you can just calculate the
individual md5 sums.
--
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
Re: Dpkg gone haywire?
Setting up gimp-smotif (0.54.1-5) ...
install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing gimp-smotif (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ax25-util:
I am at wits end on this. I have tried everything I know to do includeing
trying to reinstall dpkg but to no awail... my last and final thougt is
that this is being caused by the /usr/info/ directory being locked for
some reason and there for unaccessable by dpkg/install-info.
Is there any way to unlock the directory or even to see if it realy is
locked ... I have exausted every Idea that I know of and still I get this
error. At this point I am tempted just to make a new filesystem and start
over.
From /usr/sbin/install-info:
if (!$nowrite !link($infodir/dir,$infodir/dir.lock)) {
die $name: failed to lock dir for editing! $!\n.
($! =~ m/exists/i ? try deleting $infodir/dir.lock ?\n : '');
}
So, yes, probably something really wrong with /usr/info at that point.
Probably not to do with dpkg.
You might want to try to reinstall the package that provides
/usr/sbin/install-info, dpkg (don't remove that!).
Others on the list may have a better understanding of prel to see what
excactly is going wrong.
joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
I know that there is great debate over the future of the various Linux distributions. Now I am seriously concerned for the future of Debian. As we all know (or at least those of us up-to-date with the current news of the US), a group of computer-literate people just killed themselves so that they could 'hop' (an interesting combination of the name of the comet) on Hale-Bopp (or at least on a spaceship associated with it). Now, the leader of this group was/is (depending upon your beliefs) a man who at one time called himself 'Bo'. Hopefully you can see my concern for Debian. It must not be a coincidence that the next release of Debian bears this name...that it will be release just as Hale-Bopp hurtles away from the inner solar system. I solemly hope that, with the release of bo, the entire Debian developers team does not use the same cosmic 'hlt' instruction! This is all totaly irrelevant, as we all know that comets signal the end of the world anyway (whenever a commet is predicted, the papers are always full of end of world stories). Add to that that yesterday was April 1, and I'm sure you'll agree that the world is going to end April 30 (and that Bo, teleported to the comet, will rule Hale-Bopp). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)
The other asnwers in this list are all very usefull, but sometimes I find that whatever I do, I cannot unmount for example /usr. In such cases, it's best to do mount -o remount,ro /usr i.e. remount it read-only, so that all data is written do the partition, and you can now safely switch off the computer (execute halt). (assuming all other partions are unmonuted properly). Or better still, find what process is using /dev/hdb3 by doing this: fuser -uvm mounted system That is basically what the others suggested. But still, sumetimes I'm unable to kill -KILL those processes, or whatever. But thenagain, your -uvm options are quite nice, and seem to find more process than I'm used to. Thanks -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: can't umount /usr(/dev/hdb3)
Hi all, I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though, and now shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It gives me same error: umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing this? The other asnwers in this list are all very usefull, but sometimes I find that whatever I do, I cannot unmount for example /usr. In such cases, it's best to do mount -o remount,ro /usr i.e. remount it read-only, so that all data is written do the partition, and you can now safely switch off the computer (execute halt). (assuming all other partions are unmonuted properly). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: how to boot single-user
At 08:02 AM 27/03/97 -0800, Ken Gaugler wrote: A while back someone told me how to boot in single-user mode. I can't seem to find that email, and there is no man page for boot or single. Could someone please refresh my memory? And I wonder why commands like 'shutdown -s' do not result in a single user boot? Interrupt the LILO: boot prompt before it loads the kernel image. (do this by holding the ALT key pressed) Then, type the image you normally load, followed by a capital S ie: LILO: Linux S And that'll boot single user mode (it'll also ask for the root password). Yes, although I usually find that linux emergency is really what I want (Single-user still loads quite a few scripts). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: Netscape problem with gs-aladdin
Hallo I have all upgrades from stable conrtib nonfree and unstable. Netscape 3.01-4 not print with gs-aladdin 4.03-7. It stop whith: Error: /undefined in 695,8 [..] Is new to me. I assume you are makeing netscape print postscript, and then have gs-aladdin turn that into hp500c language for your hp550c? If that is so, (or otherwise), maybe the postscript file itself (you can probably get that by asking netscape to print to a file) gives a clue as to who is wrong (netscape or gs). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: Ghostscript with debian debian 1.2
It seems to me, the GhostScript from 1.2.7 doesn't find it's fonts. Did someone else make this experience? Is this a common Bug? How can I configure this correctly? the fonts are distributed seperately (in gsfonts). As gs is very well usable without the gsfonts package, gs only suggests gsfonts, and thus it's possible for you to install gs withoug gsfonts. This may be your problem. Also, the current gs (I think from 1.2.7, or in unstable), doesn't work together with the older gsfonts packages. So, maybe that's your problem (fix: install gs and gsfonts from the same debian release). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: Problems compiling gnuplot---Followup
I reported that in recent beta gnuplots, a core dump occured in response to set locale After installing the debian package locale-bin, the problem has apparently been solved. Yeah, someone reported that problem I think before I released my pre-319 version, so I patched that problem. What versions did you try that still have the problem? I sent my patch to the gnuplot team, but never got a responce from it (its a rather closed circle, and I don't seem to be able to get on any mailing lists). Even if I use the configure switch '--with-linux-vga', ./configure doesn't see -lvga. But the debian gnuplot does have the vga stuff compiled in, and is capable of displaying on vga (tried it, few seconds ago). Only thing is, it's not installed setuid root, so you may have to be root to run it (or install a setuid root version in /usr/local/bin). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: compile problem
Hi all, When I try to compile a program with -l*(anything from /usr/X11R6/lib), I get no such a file or directory error. Usually, the options are: gcc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXaw -l. I have /usr/X11R6/lib in my /etc/ld.so.conf, Those are for run-time linking, not for compile time linking. and I have ran ldconfig -v. Run time too. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: Any help appreciated
I hope it would be helpfull if someone would be so kind to build a resque disk for me which contains a kernel including nfs and the network driver for my card (smc8000, which needs wd.c). OK, I'm willing to do build a kernel for you. Or I can give you an account on my machine, so that you can build it your self. I don't think I have the time to build a full resque disk though (I'm going off to a conference on wednesday, and still need to prepare quite a lot of stuff). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new packages
Hiya, Just curious. I've noticed a few letters making references to packages such as ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb and libc5 version 5.4.3 and yet, I'm unable to find these new packages in unstable. Where could I find them? On any mirror : debian/unstable/binary-i386/base/ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb debian/rex-fixed/binary-i386/base/libc5.4.20-1_i386.deb (I'm not sure about the excact locations; if you want new stuff, just always go to unstable). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian install tkdesk etc...
I installed Debian from Infomagic winter edition. Dselect worked properly, except it did not configure/install 4 packages. Now looking at the directories I see that X11/X11R6 is installed. I tried ghostview and it works properly. I even looked at the ftp site and saw that xlib6 depend on libc5. I ftpd and unzipped the latest libc5 library. Well, you should never unzip (and probably untar) the libc5 files yourself. Always use dpkg or dselect for that: they will remmeber where the files went so that you can uninstall the packages, and they will mark the libc5 package as installed. Still, I wonder how you can unzip the debian libc5, as it's in .deb format. So, I guess you didn't get the debian libc5 (did the filename end with .deb?). To get recent debian packagres, ftp to ftp.debian.org (or on one to it's mirrors) I still have the problem. You mean, dpkg/dselect complaining that libc5 is not installed? That was expected. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?
Hi, I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as AKA (also known as) WTF (???) ... So, is there any appropriate dictionary? Thanks. Andreas. Install the jargon package. Then go to an info reader (for example, start up emacs and type C-h i), and go to the jargon menu (type m jargon ENTER). Somewhere you'll find: WTF the universal interrogative particle; WTF knows what it means? -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What package is nfsd in?
I think my rex-fixed/updates problems are responsible for the lack of any mention of netstd_nfs. Since I've installed Debian before I'm familar with the need to uncomment mountd/nfsd etc... Well that use to be the case. Do you mean /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs? That's in netstd (at least, that's still what the package is called in unstable, so I assume it hasn't changed in rex eighter). If you want your nfsd to run, you'll have to activate it in /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs (it's commented out by default). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong permissions of /etc/rmtab?
The permissions of '/etc/rmtab' read -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 58 Feb 18 12:29 rmtab To my mind, this is wrong. They should be somethig like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58 Feb 18 12:29 rmtab Am I right? Yes, it should definately be -rw-r--r--. Any comments? $ ls -al /etc/mtab -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Feb 14 21:49 /etc/mtab That's on two independantly installed computers over here, and I also checked on a ISP near me, who happens to be running Debian. So, could this be something that was left on your system from a really old installation? If so, I guess the base system should check for it and offer to remove the world-writablility. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the ALT-F4 stuff?
Todd On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Todd Graham Lewis wrote: Todd Todd On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Boris D. Beletsky wrote: Todd Todd Linux is great but thouse are NOT linux only things. Todd Todd OK, you're right, these are features generic to gnu-ish shells like bash Todd and zsh which receive their greatest exposure through Linux. [t]csh has fg,bg stuff built in. And tcsh isn't gnu-ish This was a discussion about Virtual consoles, not about job-control. Yes, Jobcontrol has nothing to do with linux (more with Unix), but Virtual Consoles really aren't built in tcsh. With virtual consoles we mean the stuff you see when you press ALT_F[0-6] (or, ALT_CONTROL_F[0-6], if you're in X), and with them you can have several programmes running on their own screen, not like the /bg/fg/^z jobcontrol, then the programmes can run at the same time (that's just unix), but they will mess up eachother's output (try running two vi/emacs sessions without VC/X, but just using jobcontrol, and you'll see the difference between VC's and jobcontrol). P.S that diesn't mean that linux isn't great :-) It means that Linux has another extra feature (VC's) that most (all?) other usixes don't have, but whether that means Linux is much better than FreeBSD/SCO/NT, I really don't know (I don't use the other systems) -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 21 Jan 1997 23:17:41 - Received: (qmail 11811 invoked from network); 21 Jan 1997 18:09:58 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 1997 18:09:58 - Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:08:57 -0500 From: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Ganguli Consulting Inc. X-Sender: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs X-Priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: QuXzV1.0.at.ZQGvo@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/4087 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dale Scheetz wrote: It's not clear that we have been listening to the same group. At least, I never opposed the payment portion of your idea. Ditto. I suspect that the feedback that caused Bruce to change his mind came through private mail from developers. P.S. Just another point. If we had a place to deposit money, any future montary problems could be solved by small donations from the developers. I'd certainly send in $10 to help finance the project through any tough times. If the rest of the group feels as I do this would yield $1600 dollars in one fell swoop. This wouldn't get very many people to trade shows, but it would provide funds for advertising and other promotional material. You need a clear idea of what you want to spend the money on before you go fund-raising, but I support the idea in general. Charging (or asking for contributions from) developers isn't going to get you very far, though. They already contribute time, I don't think expecting cash as well is really fair. And $1600 is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Charging distributors (and thus end-users, indirectly) seem more reasonable and more likely to raise enough cash to actually get something done. Having said all that, it needs to be stated clearly somewhere (in a charter or something) that the purpose of the Debian project is NOT to raise money or produce a fancy disk. I think everybody agrees with this, but it should be stated (etched in stone) somewhere explicitly and some ground rules laid down so that we never become dependant on the cash. Regards... ... Ami. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling gs-aladdin_4.03-7 (fwd)
There's a bug, but I'm not sure if it's me or the source package. I sucessfully compiled, but ONLY after making these changes: Thanks for the report, but none of the changes you mention make _compiling_ easier (though the ./debian/rules binary stuff was indeed impossible on systems that didn't already have gs installed.) change in wrapper.c change: #include paper.h to: #include paper.h Well, that means at least that you don't understand what #include filename.h means (it means: first look in the current dir, and then look in the other system include dirs for filename.h), and, if your compiler actuall didn't allow you to compile the wrapper without the above change, then it also means that your C preprocessor doesn't understand it. That would be very strange -- what compiler are you using? (gcc 2.7.2.1-2 on my system seems to be OK). But, you are right in saying that I should replace the by in the source, the paper.h file isn't in the ./debian dir, so I can just as well use . change in debian/rules change: install root debian/setuid /usr/doc/gs/setuid to: install root debian/setuid debian/tmp/usr/doc/gs/setuid [..and more..] Wow that's serious! You really should have filed a bug when you discovered this! (and this once more underlies the need for the build stage to be done by ordinary users, not by root). I changed those (and the - one) in my sources, will probably be uploading new version soon. Thanks, -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slang and xterm
I have encountered the following problem since moving to Debian (1.2), and I must admit I cannot find the solution. It appears that some binaries compiled with slang (jed and most in any event) will not load in an xterm (nor for that matter in an rxvt, itself an slang binary!): the reply is always: terminal not powerful enough for slang. Never saw that before. Is it a matter of updating the Slang lib? They work fine on a tty, xjed works fine as well. Any clue? Well, when I was still seeing that message, typing TERMCAP= in xterm would solve the problem, and at least slrn would start up. (The problem beeing that slang binaries first try to see the terminal's capabilities from the TERMCAP var, and in xterm that doesn't show everything. If TERMCAP is undefined, it looks at TERM, and realizes it's an xterm, and then everything is OK). But for some reason, slrn now doesn't come up with that message any more (maybe new version of slrn). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slang and xterm
But for some reason, slrn now doesn't come up with that message any more (maybe new version of slrn). It doesn't? Wow, you're right. I think that the new version of the slang library fixed this. Sorry, I said new version of slrn, but I meant new versoin of slang. Anyway, I didn't want to bother checking. Joost, are you running slang0.99.34? Yes. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
