[marketing-dev] Interlude
All, I sit here in my rather warm apartment in Toronto and read the ASF list, the OOo lists, the so many other lists I subscribe to and all the other texts, in so many other languages; and I write letters, blog posts, and so on. (Even the CC minutes, to come; urgent matters took precedence.) And then I came across the wonderful poem, How do I love thee? by Elizabeth Barrett Browning, and I thought: This is totally inappropriate for this list. And then I thought of one—really one of my favourites—by Wallace Stevens, that is to me always appropriate, a source of discussion, controversy, beauty.…. Anecdote of the Jar I placed a jar in Tennessee, And round it was, upon a hill. It made the slovenly wilderness Surround that hill. The wilderness rose up to it, And sprawled around, no longer wild. The jar was round upon the ground And tall and of a port in air. It took dominion every where. The jar was gray and bare. It did not give of bird or bush, -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager OpenOffice.org -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Resigning as Marketing Project Lead
Ah, good to be corrected on such a matter! Cheers, Louis On 2011-06-08, at 21:07 , Peter Junge wrote: Hi Louis, Am 07.06.2011 02:27, schrieb Louis Suarez-Potts: On 2011-06-06, at 12:07 , Peter Junge wrote: [...] I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. I'm immensely sorry to see this letter and to see you leave the Project, ... Thanks a lot, but I didn't say I'm leaving the project. ;-) Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Resigning as Marketing Project Lead
test… Dear Peter and everyone else, On 2011-06-06, at 12:07 , Peter Junge wrote: Hi everyone, I have to resign as OOo Marketing Project Lead because a new professional engagement I took several weeks ago will not leave me with enough time to appropriately care about my duties. Especially the stony road we're having ahead with the transition of the project to the Apache Software Foundation will require double efforts, hence it seems to be the right moment to make this cut. I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. I'm immensely sorry to see this letter and to see you leave the Project, especially now that stony road lies before us—and promises to be smoothed by the tread of the community. But I understand your situation and appreciate the effort you've put into the project, into OpenOffice.org, into being a true friend in need. I do look forward to working with you in other capacities! Meanwhile, I'll continue to lead the Marketing Project until such time as—? Who knows what the actual shape of OOo will be just a few months down this road. But it will be a fun trip. :-) Best regards, Peter Best, Louis-- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Resigning as Marketing Project Lead
Dear Peter and everyone else, On 2011-06-06, at 12:07 , Peter Junge wrote: Hi everyone, I have to resign as OOo Marketing Project Lead because a new professional engagement I took several weeks ago will not leave me with enough time to appropriately care about my duties. Especially the stony road we're having ahead with the transition of the project to the Apache Software Foundation will require double efforts, hence it seems to be the right moment to make this cut. I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. I'm immensely sorry to see this letter and to see you leave the Project, especially now that stony road lies before us—and promises to be smoothed by the tread of the community. But I understand your situation and appreciate the effort you've put into the project, into OpenOffice.org, into being a true friend in need. I do look forward to working with you in other capacities! Meanwhile, I'll continue to lead the Marketing Project until such time as—? Who knows what the actual shape of OOo will be just a few months down this road. But it will be a fun trip. :-) Best regards, Peter Best, Louis-- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: OpenOffice.org to become an Apache Foundation Incubator Project
Hi all, On 2011-06-01, at 11:56 , Peter Junge wrote: Hi anyone, have you already been reading the news today: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm No comments from my side so far, as I found it right before getting to bed. There is little at this point to say, and the fact that there is little at this point to say, and that it remains mysterious, is, I sincerely hope, not a sign of things to come but of things that were. I therefore ask Jim Jagielski, whom I've cc'd here to this PUBLIC list (jim: warning!!)—to comment on this, either to me privately, or publicly: his choice. The questions I have: * Who owns copyright and trademark now? * Who will employ the core developers? * Why wasn't the OpenOffice.org leadership and community involved in the discussions? None is easy. Some might be answered by, dunno. Best regards, Peter — louis-- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community
Thanks, Florian for the long message :-) But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this is OOo-land, has to do with simply having a suitable forum for what is likely to be a protracted and contentious discussion, and that sort of thing calls out for neutrality. I also tend to think that having focused and if possible in-person meetings is immensely helpful. Louis On 2011-05-25, at 08:03 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello everyone, I have not been subscribed to this list for months, but due to Louis' recent Cc, I was made aware of the discussion going on -- so, as a representant of TDF, but also as someone for whom personally the community means a lot, let me say a few words. I indeed see the current situation as an ideal basis for uniting things. The diversity the Community is in now doesn't help anyone. If you now think we, TDF, are happy and get satisfaction out of the current situation, you are terribly wrong. Even if we expected something like that to happen, our intention was to safeguard the project from this eventuality, not to profit from it. We all have similar goals: a free office suite, available to everyone. So let's not discuss about the past, about what has happened and about the reasons that led to this, but rather focus on the future. I want to openly repeat our invitation to everyone to join The Document Foundation and the LibreOffice Community. Why do I think that we are the right place to continue the work? In yesterday's blog post, we summed up where we stand, and reading it will help to understand the current situation: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/24/updates-on-the-foundation/ 1. We are vendor neutral. I am sorry that I have to object to Louis' statement of us being a proxy for Microsoft -- nothing can be further from the truth. I must confess, that by statements like these, I feel even personally insulted. I spend many hours per day on a pure volunteer basis, and if anyone can point on those of my doings that are proxying for Microsoft, I would be interested to hear them. Otherwise, I'll ask to stop spreading those wrong assumptions -- as they are simply that: wrong. 2. We have a strong legal backing, not only by the German nonprofit Freies Office Deutschland e.V., but also by the Software in the Public Interest (SPI), and we are on track with establishing the Foundation as a legal entity. Even right now, we have all options needed for dealing with legal aspects, accepting and spending money. We already can and do maintain trademarks, brands and other assets. 3. We have an independent infrastructure that works and is not controlled by nor depends on a single entity. In addition, as we are not using a fixed web framework, we are very flexible in what we do. 4. We have not only gained a lot of momentum, but also a strong developer base of more than 200 volunteers, amongst them 40 who contribute on a very regular basis. Yes, of course, any contribution corporations with paid developers do are highly welcome and help a lot -- but already right now, we are in a status where we could drive the project without them, if the worst case would occur. This is something we never managed to achieve in ten years' of OpenOffice.org. When I first read the Oracle announcement from April, talking about an independent, noncommercial entity, my first thoughts were -- and still are -- this is exactly what TDF is doing. I have seen proposals of setting up another foundation, or moving to an existing foundation that is not TDF. Honestly, this does not make very much sense to me. It would again lead to a diversity, would require many efforts, and would continue to irritate the market at large. Why reinvent the wheel? OpenOffice.org is already very special in many of its processes. Having it under the umbrella of another, existing entity, would require lots of changes to fit in there. TDF has, from the very beginning, been shaped as a new entity with processes that fit to what we have accomplished the last years. We changed things that didn't work, and improved things that do work -- isn't this the best basis to build on? Let's not waste energy in once again trying to fit under an umbrella, but rather work jointly together on our future. I am not saying that TDF does everything right and 100% perfect. We are giving our best, and I think we do a fairly good job. I've seen comments that TDF is missing big corporate support, and that the whole ecosystem is at risk. Again, I consider this terribly wrong. Of course, we would love to have much more support from corporations already, but building this up needs time, requires trust and confidence, and after all, support is growing rapidly. If anyone thinks by setting up a new foundation or by
[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling ones. And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for community reasons but also because a lot is at stake beyond our narrow concerns. Louis On 2011-05-25, at 10:29 , Sophie wrote: Hi Florian, all, On 25/05/2011 17:00, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 14.33: Thanks, Florian for the long message :-) But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this is OOo-land, has to do with simply having a suitable forum for what is likely to be a protracted and contentious discussion, and that sort of thing calls out for neutrality. I also tend to think that having focused and if possible in-person meetings is immensely helpful. as the topic was raised on this public mailing list, and as it concerns the OpenOffice.org Community, I thought it is indeed the right approach to reply publically to the discussion. The question I raised was not rhetorical. I don't want to say take TDF as is, but I am open to feedback and criticism. If there is anything that needs to be changed or improved, any criticism that is justified, I definitely will not ignore it, but rather try to work on it and improve things. However, I will also take position to criticism that from my point of view is simply not justified, and I think, that combination is a good basis for a discussion. So, again, my question to all of the OpenOffice.org community: Is there any particular reason on why working together, jointly, united, is not possible? Is there any justified reason on why working under the umbrella of a different foundation, or even setting up another foundation in parallel, makes sense? I am open to discussion on any channel -- and although I think that the OpenOffice.org mailing lists are indeed the right channel to discuss the future of the OpenOffice.org community, I am happy to discuss on any other channel. Needless to say, I prefer openness and transparency, whereever possible. And of course, I'll support you in this discussion and completely second your point of view and your position here. In the same way, I would be happy to discuss further with the OpenOffice.org community what can be the best done to join both. Face to face meetings are of course an option, but it will exclude those who cannot participate, so why not initiate the discussion on the list here as I did? +1 Kind regards Sophie -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: ping
All, The OpenOffice.org Community is obviously in a state of change. I think a crucial element to us all moving ahead is to establish and then act on, in good faith, those areas where we—OOo and LO communities (aspects of the same thing) can work together and reconcile differences. Let me start by stating that we, Stefan Taxhet, André Schnabel, Florian Effenberger, and I, will be holding a teleconference later this week to further put into place those things that need to be done to move ahead. The Most Important Thing from my perspective, is that the broader community understand that they are contributing to building this together, and coupled to that, that our users, public sector as well as individual consumers, and private companies big and small, have the confidence to continue using ODF implementations based on OpenOffice.org source. I think that all of us here in OOo-land appreciate the problems OOo was born with and never really corrected, and that these relate as much to how code and other contributions are encouraged and also accepted (or not). And I think that to move forward, especially now in light of Oracle's 15 April announcement, means that we can re-evaluate elemental procedures so that the overall community can work together. But the basic issues I referred to before still apply—money, in short—and on that subject, we need to hold fire and be patient. There are numerous unknowns circulating, still. However, we can, and we shall, in the meanwhile, talk. To reiterate: My personal goal is to have a community project whose identity is not a proxy for this or that company but the unique ensemble of all its contributors, bound together by a common goal of building the best and most universally usable set of productivity tools implementing the ODF. And that we look to the future while tending to the present: satisfy the needs of the desktop users but cock an eye to the sky and imagine ODF implementations that freely move us into Cloud. -louis On 2011-05-20, at 14:03 , Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Louis, all, it is great, that you still feel responsible for the OOo community - even if the way you perform this responsibility causes some thoughts... You have been Sun's OpenOffice.org Community Manager and later on Oracle's Community Manager until you left Oracle some months ago. As far as I know this post has never been open for election by the community, it has been given to you by your former employer and I don't know about it's validity after you left Oracle. But I want to address you as OpenOffice org community member - a community I myself feel affiliated for more than six years. Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi, On 2011-05-13, at 04:39 , Ian Lynch wrote: I know this might be a bit of an emotive topic for some, but wouldn't it be an idea to open up dialogue with the LibreOffice people? A split community was never an ideal situation from a simple logical point of view. A split had to be accepted when the foundation had been set up, but TDF has always been open to any contributor and invited not only Oracle but all the people hesitant to join a broader basis with less influence by single companies. Ok, there are emotional wounds to heal but talking about possibilities without any commitment on either side can't do any harm. I fully support any discussion between OOo and TDF community members. In my opinion our split community can be reunited quite easily, if everybody looks for the goals she/he has with our office suite and how we can achieve them. Maybe this is already happening? In an open community (or if you prefer: among two open communities) this should done on the mailing lists, so thank you for this question. Actually I hope that there will be more friendly discussion among TDF and OOo community members, leading to the perception of positive interaction and common goals. Actually, Florian and I are discussing that exactly. The days of stiff difference are over with; were over with when Oracle renounced OOo as a revenue source. And in their lieu, discussions of reconciliation. Sorry, not being a native speaker, I can't really understand what you're talking about - and Google translator doesn't help very much either. So you mean that the time where Florian was persona non grata for OpenOffice.org is over, because Oracle dropped commercial support for the community? And does reconciliation mean that you start to imagine, that the TDF founders might have been right in working on the ten year old vision of an independent foundation *before* Oracle might drop any support for the community? We still don't know if dropping commercial support means to close the entire infrastructure and sell the trademark to somebody else (I still hope they don't, but it is a monetary issue, and Oracle is said to be aware of costs and money). Without the Document Foundation our community's
[marketing-dev] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: ping
André, I wrote, to put into place those things that need to be done to move ahead. That means, to learn what we have to do. You identified one of them: Trust. We need to trust you and vice versa. So, I am not, as you seem to think I am saying, jumping to conclusions and making this a fait accompli. That's hardly my or anyone's intention. I, we, all recognize that there's a lot to go over. I am rather stating that I want to start, and am doing this publicly. Louis On 2011-05-23, at 05:01 , Andre Schnabel wrote: Hi Louis, * sorry for posting out of the thread, but I'm not subscribet do the list (following the discussion via mail-archive .com) From: Louis Suarez-Potts Date: 2011/5/23 Subject: [marketing-dev] Re: ping To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Let me start by stating that we, Stefan Taxhet, André Schnabel, Florian Effenberger, and I, will be holding a teleconference later this week to further put into place those things that need to be done to move ahead. Let me have some words on this propsed conferece, as you seem to put much more in this than there actually ist. The reason for me to suggest (or agree) to such a conference is that I want to see some common ground in our community. Unfortunately there seems to be non common voice among those who decided not to join TDF. As other people already mentioned - your position as Community Manager is currently self-claimed (it does in no case fit to the definitions according to the OOo gudelines). The Community Council did not see elections and is missing several members. So it is hard to see you or the current CC as representative of the project. Anyway - I know, that several people are still engouraged to deliver a free Office Suite for all of our users and do this within a community of contributors (no matter if they are volunteers, companies, developers, translators, designers ...). So - I want to speak to those engaged people, based on trust. Unfortunately - you worked hard to establish distrust. Already in March we had a talk what could be done to work on common tasks. But instead of trying to collaborate, contact me or TDF and establish trust, you published some rather FUDish blogs - and even continued with that after after some clear inidcation, that this will be a problem for further discussion. You did not even seem to understand or read my mails. But now you publically state that we are going to put into place those things? Sorry Louis - we are not there yet. First you need to establish trust again. Either in a phone call (that was my intention to join the call) - or by proving you have the backing of the people you claim to represent (means hold an election or at least get an endorsement from those who had been elected to the CC). regards, André -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Further connections
One thing that keeps escaping me relates to my work connection to the former lead of Marketing, Florian Effenberger: He and I now work together, as associates/partners for a marketing, community development (and other good stuff) company. We do a fairly good job of keeping our interests separate, and we have also sought to maintain cordial and even friendly relations since last year. I should also add that in no direct way do I benefit from my efforts now on behalf of OOo or ODF. (I don't know if he does.) I suppose all benefit from proving the resilience and reliability of OOo source and the ODF. And a tight affiliation with such a powerful force is hardly to be dismissed. But it is not central by any means to my current work the new company, nor is it at all related to my interests in maintaining friendly relations with Florian and others involved with TDF, LO. (For instance, Charles Schulz and I sit on the same Oasis TCs related to the ODF, where I represent OpenOffice.org.) -louis -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: openoffice.ca about to expire
Hi all, I replied to Mike directly. BTW, distressingly enough, but also practically, my normal contact information is widely available not just from spammers but also from our friend Google search. Cheers Louis PS: YES I think we ought to secure the domain in Canada, land of persistent winter. On 2011-05-16, at 24:41 , Mike Gifford wrote: My main concern is that it becomes a porn portal. Louis Suárez-Potts louis.suarez-po...@oracle.com was quite interested in the domain at one point. But he didn't respond to my earlier request to have it transferred from us. I don't think there's much official OOo support in Canada. Maybe in the Ubuntu crowd. Not that there aren't a lot of people using it. More and more it is becoming common to find someone using this tool. It's possible that the http://www.documentfoundation.org are interested in it. Mike On 2011-05-15, at 9:07 PM, Peter Junge wrote: Hi Mike, thanks for the offer. I would doubt (but someone may correct me) that Oracle has interest in that domain. There are several registered trademarks called Open Office, Openoffice etc. on this planet, which have nothing to do with OOo. OOo has the one and only trademark OpenOffice.org, which is registered by Oracle. Hence, openoffice.ca may be a legal pitfall to some extend. Isn't there a Canadian OOo community which might be interested? At least Louis lives in Canada. Best regards, Peter Am 14.05.2011 05:09, schrieb Mike Gifford: Hello, We're wanting to transfer the domain name for openoffice.ca to someone within the OpenOffice, but am really not sure who I should transfer ownership to. I'd rather it not just be part of Oracle, but not sure if there's an alternative. Anyways, would appreciate some thoughts on this. Mike -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting Inc. Free Software for Social Change - http://openconcept.ca http://twitter.com/mgifford | http://delicious.com/mgifford -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: ping
Hi, On 2011-05-13, at 04:39 , Ian Lynch wrote: I know this might be a bit of an emotive topic for some, but wouldn't it be an idea to open up dialogue with the LibreOffice people? A split community was never an ideal situation from a simple logical point of view. Ok, there are emotional wounds to heal but talking about possibilities without any commitment on either side can't do any harm. Maybe this is already happening? Actually, Florian and I are discussing that exactly. The days of stiff difference are over with; were over with when Oracle renounced OOo as a revenue source. And in their lieu, discussions of reconciliation. To be sure, there are still personal differences. These are, to me, not irrelevant but ought not to stop the development of the code by the larger community. What counts, what makes up, what comprises that larger community is of some debate. We need a lot of money to develop the code. We need, that is, far more than LibreOffice or TDF or any single company can probably provide. Figure more than 10M USD/annum. That's to develop the code, test it, distribute it, and move ahead into areas that go beyond the limits of legacy. Unfortunately, for something like OOo, a community effort, still needs huge buckets of money. It's not about corporations, per se. It's about needing to get dedicated developers, one way or another, working on the code, so that it can be reliably produced, and satisfy the most demanding expectations. Meanwhile, I continue to drive ODF interest, and continue to represent OOo at ODF events; and continue to represent, as much as I can, as energetically as I can, to the world. I have no animus toward LibreOffice, though I do have my share of doubts; but my spirit is stamped with OOo, its community, its goal, of providing reliable and reliably, the best productivity tools there are to the most people. -louis On 13 May 2011 03:40, Gozarks goza...@gmail.com wrote: Clarification please, re: license, copyright, resources... who owns all this stuff now? Thanks, ~Christine On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote: I would love for there to be clarity. I am not alone. The burden of providing that clarification, however, does not rest with us who have no knowledge but on those who do. The areas where some clarity would be useful (to put it mildly) include: license, ownership of copyright, developer resources, and so on and so forth. It is not even the case that other projects using OOo technology have that much greater insight. They do not. They may have more activity, but absent the energy of production, there is no production of energy. Louis On 2011-05-12, at 22:17 , Peter Junge wrote: On 12.05.2011 10:01, Andy Brown wrote: Peter Junge wrote: pong On 05/11/2011 09:02 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: ping -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org Is this what we have been reduced to? Maybe that's one of the sad conclusion. A bit more clarity about the future could certainly help ... Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: ping
:-) I am. My strategies are, obviously, to invoke the established stakeholders—IBM, Red Hat, to name but two, but also Google—in the gambit. But the issue is even more interesting than money alone. Much of the secret of OOo's sauce lies not in the recipe, which is open, but in the makers, who are like chefs the world round, only more so. And with Oracle's renunciation, they are obviously affected. How, it's not clear. But if I were in the team, I'd be no doubt updating my résumé—and be fending off hot solicitations. In short, time is of the essence. LibreOffice, TDF, do not have the full resources to continue, let alone advance OOo. They can differentiate it, which is to be lauded, but they have their own uncertainties. They do not appeal, too, to enterprises; we do. Enterprises can be public sector or private. They have the same concerns: reliability, predictability, stability, and super-good QA. That all takes money not just in the present but in the future. So, these are not trivial points. I've been working sub rosa because that's the way this is done. And even so, I've been pretty much shut out of a lot of discourse. Oracle has been absolutely mum about OOo's copyright and development future, though I've asked. They are surely in talks with the usual suspects, at least, I hope so. But the discussions are hardly including the OOo community—not me, at least, and not really any I know involved with OOo. What I'll do is what I promised earlier: write an open letter to Edward Screven, the Oracle VP who issued the announcement 15 April. And I also would very much appreciate it, and I think the entire OOo community would, too, if IBM and other stakeholders, such as Google and Red Hat execcs-I'll spare names—would engage the community representatives, in the plural or even singular, to proceed. What counts here is not my presence or participation per se, that's irrelevant and immaterial, but the continuation of OOo as that set of tools enterprises and users the world round expect to be there, as a community thing is. So, we are doing things. And I just wish I could speak more, or write more on this. I also wish I had more to speak, write, say. But you see the issues. They are not secret, they are not hard to comprehend, they are not hard to digest. We need not just the funds but the chefs, and we need not jus to continue status quo—that did not work, obviously—but to re-do things, re-set things, improve: no one liked the old logistics of power, all wanted change. This is our opportunity, and let's begin with the reconciliation, with the stakeholders, so that we can continue working on this. And one more point: OOo makes money. It makes money not just for the ecosystem stakeholders, like Ian, Jean, and many many others, including me, now—but for the stakeholders, in much the same way that an Eclipse like platform or Apache does. By providing the source technology that creates new markets. -louis On 2011-05-18, at 19:21 , Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-19, Ian Lynch wrote: if we need 10m per year lets work out strategies to generate it. +1 --Jean -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: ping
I would love for there to be clarity. I am not alone. The burden of providing that clarification, however, does not rest with us who have no knowledge but on those who do. The areas where some clarity would be useful (to put it mildly) include: license, ownership of copyright, developer resources, and so on and so forth. It is not even the case that other projects using OOo technology have that much greater insight. They do not. They may have more activity, but absent the energy of production, there is no production of energy. Louis On 2011-05-12, at 22:17 , Peter Junge wrote: On 12.05.2011 10:01, Andy Brown wrote: Peter Junge wrote: pong On 05/11/2011 09:02 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: ping -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org Is this what we have been reduced to? Maybe that's one of the sad conclusion. A bit more clarity about the future could certainly help ... Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: OpenOffice.org status and v3.4 final release
On 2011-04-26, at 10:23 , Allen Pulsifer wrote: Greetings, Normally the OpenOffice.org holds a Release Status Meeting every Monday and reports the minutes at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ReleaseStatus_Minutes . I notice that no meeting has been held the last two Mondays. Is anyone working on a final release of OpenOffice.org v3.4? Yes. 3.4 will be going out, as I was informed of this by Mathias Bauer, cc'd here. For example, the web page at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease34 lists the following persons that are responsible for some aspect of the release: antbryan, hde, ja, jsc, md, mike, mla, and rosana. Which of those persons, if any, are still involved in the release and or involved in the OpenOffice.org project? Second, according to http://council.openoffice.org/ , the following persons are members or deputy members of the OpenOffice.org Community Council: Louis Suárez-Potts, Matthias Huetsch, Kazunari Hirano, Stefan Taxhet, Martin Hollmichel, Andreas Bartel, Juergen Schmidt, Carsten Driesner, Eike Rathke. Which if any of these persons remain involved with the OpenOffice.org project?j All. When is the next meeting of the OpenOffice.org Community Council? We had an informal one last Thursday to discuss the announcement by Edward Screven Oracle regarding Oracle's intentions for OOo. Nothing was concluded, as none of us has any special information. From my perspective, the most important thing is to continue with the development of OOo and the ODF so that the market and those who use and depend upon the application are not disappointed. Would any member of the OpenOffice.org Community Council care to comment or inform us of the current status of the project? Yes, I would be happy to. I'd be even happier to know what is really going on. I have been acting as directly as possible, to preserve this project and its community, and to ensure that its value is both appreciated and even grows. But I just have zero real knowledge, though I do hope that changes Real Soon Now. Regardless, I am quite optimistic that the outcome will be more than satisfactory and put OOo on truly solid ground—not one based on rhetoric but code and community engagement, including that of the developers. But let's see…. I'll be posting too to my blog, http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ Thank you, Allen Pulsifer -Louis -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Interesting News
On 2011-04-16, at 07:40 , Ian Lynch wrote: On 16 April 2011 04:34, Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote: All, As others have noted… well, this is interesting news.* And it comes as news, indeed. It also comes unattached with any actual explication as to what it means in practice. And there are many questions, and I've asked my former colleagues some of them. The most obvious being, of course, Will Oracle contribute code to the development of OpenOffice.org as it has in the past? Right now, Oracle does virtually all of the coding for OpenOffice.org. The resulting code is then worked on by competing projects—either to make it more compatible with Microsoft Office, or to make it work with established frameworks, or whatever. As of now, the code is mature and powerful; it is being used by tens of millions and being adopted by even more every year. I am not concerned about the present, for OpenOffice.org addresses present needs more than adequately. I am, however, really interested in seeing what the future brings. And for that, I think we, the OpenOffice.org community, need to be bold. I envision a future where the tools for intellectual production are free, use open standards that can be widely implemented, and that are not limited to this or that environment but freely adaptable to a range of devices, mobile or not. The anchor here is the ODF, the format that transcends any particular implementation but which is only fully realized by the most comprehensive, OpenOffice.org. And the tools, such as those making up OpenOffice.org, to satisfy my vision, and the vision of the community, as I understand it, must be free and open. But from a practical point of view there needs to be some sort of resource generator to sustain development. If Oracle withdraws all the development resource it makes it far more difficult for these aspirations to be realised. We have concrete evidence that there is demand for OpenOffice.org certification. We have the infrastructure to support it and we know that the potential income to the community could easily be in the 10s of millions of dollars. Question is how to make it most likely that that potential can be realized? This is precisely what I hope to find out, as well as what sort of resources we (the community) can lay hands on. A lot is at stake, and Oracle is not making it easy for us in the OOo community to understand what, exactly, we have as resources. Louis Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager Chair, Community Council OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Interesting News
All, As others have noted… well, this is interesting news.* And it comes as news, indeed. It also comes unattached with any actual explication as to what it means in practice. And there are many questions, and I've asked my former colleagues some of them. The most obvious being, of course, Will Oracle contribute code to the development of OpenOffice.org as it has in the past? Right now, Oracle does virtually all of the coding for OpenOffice.org. The resulting code is then worked on by competing projects—either to make it more compatible with Microsoft Office, or to make it work with established frameworks, or whatever. As of now, the code is mature and powerful; it is being used by tens of millions and being adopted by even more every year. I am not concerned about the present, for OpenOffice.org addresses present needs more than adequately. I am, however, really interested in seeing what the future brings. And for that, I think we, the OpenOffice.org community, need to be bold. I envision a future where the tools for intellectual production are free, use open standards that can be widely implemented, and that are not limited to this or that environment but freely adaptable to a range of devices, mobile or not. The anchor here is the ODF, the format that transcends any particular implementation but which is only fully realized by the most comprehensive, OpenOffice.org. And the tools, such as those making up OpenOffice.org, to satisfy my vision, and the vision of the community, as I understand it, must be free and open. Best, Louis * http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Oracle-Announces-Its-Intention-to-Move-OpenOfficeorg-to-a-Community-Based-Project-NASDAQ-ORCL-1428324.htm Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager Chair, Community Council OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Interesting News
All, As others have noted… well, this is interesting news.* And it comes as news, indeed. It also comes unattached with any actual explication as to what it means in practice. And there are many questions, and I've asked my former colleagues some of them. The most obvious being, of course, Will Oracle contribute code to the development of OpenOffice.org as it has in the past? Right now, Oracle does virtually all of the coding for OpenOffice.org. The resulting code is then worked on by competing projects—either to make it more compatible with Microsoft Office, or to make it work with established frameworks, or whatever. As of now, the code is mature and powerful; it is being used by tens of millions and being adopted by even more every year. I am not concerned about the present, for OpenOffice.org addresses present needs more than adequately. I am, however, really interested in seeing what the future brings. And for that, I think we, the OpenOffice.org community, need to be bold. I envision a future where the tools for intellectual production are free, use open standards that can be widely implemented, and that are not limited to this or that environment but freely adaptable to a range of devices, mobile or not. The anchor here is the ODF, the format that transcends any particular implementation but which is only fully realized by the most comprehensive, OpenOffice.org. And the tools, such as those making up OpenOffice.org, to satisfy my vision, and the vision of the community, as I understand it, must be free and open. Best, Louis * http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Oracle-Announces-Its-Intention-to-Move-OpenOfficeorg-to-a-Community-Based-Project-NASDAQ-ORCL-1428324.htm Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager Chair, Community Council OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Interesting News
All, As others have noted… well, this is interesting news.* And it comes as news, indeed. It also comes unattached with any actual explication as to what it means in practice. And there are many questions, and I've asked my former colleagues some of them. The most obvious being, of course, Will Oracle contribute code to the development of OpenOffice.org as it has in the past? Right now, Oracle does virtually all of the coding for OpenOffice.org. The resulting code is then worked on by competing projects—either to make it more compatible with Microsoft Office, or to make it work with established frameworks, or whatever. As of now, the code is mature and powerful; it is being used by tens of millions and being adopted by even more every year. I am not concerned about the present, for OpenOffice.org addresses present needs more than adequately. I am, however, really interested in seeing what the future brings. And for that, I think we, the OpenOffice.org community, need to be bold. I envision a future where the tools for intellectual production are free, use open standards that can be widely implemented, and that are not limited to this or that environment but freely adaptable to a range of devices, mobile or not. The anchor here is the ODF, the format that transcends any particular implementation but which is only fully realized by the most comprehensive, OpenOffice.org. And the tools, such as those making up OpenOffice.org, to satisfy my vision, and the vision of the community, as I understand it, must be free and open. Best, Louis * http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Oracle-Announces-Its-Intention-to-Move-OpenOfficeorg-to-a-Community-Based-Project-NASDAQ-ORCL-1428324.htm Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager Chair, Community Council OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: [native-lang-com] Japan Earthquake: Kazunari Hirano needs our help
All, On 2011-03-23, at 01:08 , Peter Junge wrote: OpenOffice.org Community, our long term friend and OOo contributer Kazunari Hirano from Japan lives in Ichinoseki (http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201103/18/84/a0005484_21312387.jpg), which has been heavily shaken by the earthquake on March 11th. Ichinoseki is also located in the direct back-country of the coast areas of Rikuzentakada and Ofunato which have been devastated by the tsunami. Hundred thousands of people lost their homes and are still in need of an appropriate shelter. Now, Kazunari wants to prepare his little school as an emergency accommodation for evacuees. For the details please read: http://openoffice.exblog.jp/12298764/ What Kazunari needs most is money to take care of the expenses for his generous venture. For this reason, we are collecting donations for Kazunari using the channels of Team OpenOffice.org e.V.. You can send money via PayPal, credit card, bank transfer or check. For details please refer: http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html Every donation, that indicates the intended purpose with Earthquake Japan or similar keywords will go directly to Kazunari. *Please help Kazunari to help others!* This is a great opportunity to make donations for Japanese earthquake victims, knowing where the money goes and as well avoiding loss due to administrative expenses as they occur in larger relief organizations. I second Peter's request, via Khirano, and am glad to learn that not only is Khirano well, but that others involved in OpenOffice.org who live in Japan are also well. As many of you know, the Japanese OpenOffice.org community is one of the largest making up OpenOffice.org's global communities. Money is useful, but as recent reports have underscored, Japan is not Haiti, which a year ago, we recall, also suffered a devastating earthquake, and where Haiti constantly needs money, resources, and global attention, Japan's needs differ. But the larger issue, which by no means occludes the request forwarded by Khirano and presented here by Peter, is how can we, the OpenOffice.org community, working in concert with other Free and Open-Source communities around the world, help directly. I have been active in this effort and am seeking to help coordinate the global efforts so as to provide *effective* relief that is *community* based and that is *sustainable* as well as being *sustaining.* The distinction is that money is immensely useful and is always needed, but what really makes a difference that lasts is the establishment of community resources—informational, technological, personal—that allow the afflicted, the refugee, the deprived to gain from the global communities. I thank Peter for sending this out. I'll be issuing more information on how we, the OOo community and others, can complement the efforts outlined above with community action. Best regards, Peter (OpenOffice.org Marketing Project) P.S.: Forwarding this call for donations is of course welcome. Best, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Development Manager OpenOffice.org -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing] Updates....
All, I've left Oracle but continue to be involved in the management and leadership of OpenOffice.org and continue to promote the adoption and interoperability of the OpenDocument Format, or ODF. The most immediate and obvious change in my new status is of course that I can no longer receive mail to my (former) Oracle alias; please be so good as to send mail to louis[at]openoffice.org. As well, it also means that I will be able to focus more on Marketing and regional development, as well as engaging all the distributed efforts forming the growing OOo and ODF ecosystems. And it also means that, as always, I remain attentive to what you need, want, desire, wish for, and will try my best to communicate those desires to whomever must hear them. Cheers, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Chair, Community Council Co-Lead, Marketing (and several other) Lead, Native Language Confederation (and others) and for now, Community Manager OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Updates....
Hi On 2011-02-11, at 09:09 , Peter Junge wrote: So, you are stepping into independence without becoming libre? ;-) (SCNR this pun!) :-) Indeed, and I still believe that the future lies where the engine driving the train takes us, with the engineers tending it, and that we can see ahead if we work with the engineers, not with the tenders of the last car, the caboose. From there, you can only see the past. Been there. Me, I want to do the future thing. Good luck, Peter Thanks, Louis On 02/11/2011 09:58 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: All, I've left Oracle but continue to be involved in the management and leadership of OpenOffice.org and continue to promote the adoption and interoperability of the OpenDocument Format, or ODF. The most immediate and obvious change in my new status is of course that I can no longer receive mail to my (former) Oracle alias; please be so good as to send mail to louis[at]openoffice.org. As well, it also means that I will be able to focus more on Marketing and regional development, as well as engaging all the distributed efforts forming the growing OOo and ODF ecosystems. And it also means that, as always, I remain attentive to what you need, want, desire, wish for, and will try my best to communicate those desires to whomever must hear them. Cheers, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Chair, Community Council Co-Lead, Marketing (and several other) Lead, Native Language Confederation (and others) and for now, Community Manager OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Updates....
Hi, On 2011-02-11, at 10:33 , Benjamin Horst wrote: Congrats, Louis! I look forward to working with you in your new capacity. Thanks; me too. Then let's start. :-) More later…. Cheers louis -Ben On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi On 2011-02-11, at 09:09 , Peter Junge wrote: So, you are stepping into independence without becoming libre? ;-) (SCNR this pun!) :-) Indeed, and I still believe that the future lies where the engine driving the train takes us, with the engineers tending it, and that we can see ahead if we work with the engineers, not with the tenders of the last car, the caboose. From there, you can only see the past. Been there. Me, I want to do the future thing. Good luck, Peter Thanks, Louis On 02/11/2011 09:58 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: All, I've left Oracle but continue to be involved in the management and leadership of OpenOffice.org and continue to promote the adoption and interoperability of the OpenDocument Format, or ODF. The most immediate and obvious change in my new status is of course that I can no longer receive mail to my (former) Oracle alias; please be so good as to send mail to louis[at]openoffice.org. As well, it also means that I will be able to focus more on Marketing and regional development, as well as engaging all the distributed efforts forming the growing OOo and ODF ecosystems. And it also means that, as always, I remain attentive to what you need, want, desire, wish for, and will try my best to communicate those desires to whomever must hear them. Cheers, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Chair, Community Council Co-Lead, Marketing (and several other) Lead, Native Language Confederation (and others) and for now, Community Manager OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [native-lang] Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?
Danishka, On 2010-06-27, at 03:20 , Danishka Navin wrote: Folks, I suggest to have a survey in addition to all proposed and planned activities. Would you do the actual survey work of setting it up and putting it on? and the questions you ask below are far too vague to be useful, as a survey of this sort demands very precise answers for the information gleaned to be knowledge that can be used. BTW, we've done surveys before and we have ongoing surveys….. Louis Lets get the feedback from OO.org users and non-users. What they expected from us? What they got from OO.org? What they feel about OO.org? etc Thanks Danishka On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Samphan Raruenrom samp...@osdev.co.thwrote: I suggest that we have a global event like software freedom day or document freedom day. That is having events celebrating the anniversary everywhere around the world in the same day. All organizers of the event should register the plan in a wiki and may get some materials like a few official tea-shirts. On 26/6/2553 19:26, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, as you all may be aware, this year we will be celebrating our 10th anniversary -- ten years of OpenOffice.org, ten years of open standards, open document format(s) and a free office suite. We definitely should not miss the opportunity of telling the world what great things we have done over the past couple of years. A 10 year anniversary only occurs once, so let's not miss the opportunity! One idea that came up at the latest marketing confcall was to do some sort of countdown, i.e. activities beginning at OOoCon in September and ending on our birthday, October 13th. One possibility would be to have something twice a week: Every Monday, we show a business/governmental use case, and every Friday, we share something personal -- community members tell why they are engaged with OpenOffice.org, how they got involved, what they like about it, what their visions for the future are etc. (My spontaneous naming idea was Freedom Friday, but I guess I've catched that somewhere, as it's already taken...) What do you think about it? This might also help in bringing Rosana's video idea back into the marketing work. We all agreed that videos are a great idea, so this would be a nice opportunity... ;) Florian -- _/|\_ /Samphan Raruenrom./ Open Source Development Co., Ltd. Tel: +66 2 2699889 Fax: +66 38 773128 Web: www.osdev.co.th http://www.osdev.co.th/ Twitter: @osdev http://twitter.com/osdev Facebook: www.facebook.com/osdev http://www.facebook.com/osdev -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san
On 2010-06-17, at 03:26 , Peter Junge wrote: Hi Maho, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hello, Florian, John, Cor and Italo, (Cc: Terada-san) I'm the project lead of ja.oo.o, and I'd like to request 1000 Euro for Terada-san's top page renewal work for http://ja.openoffice.org/ . I see one really big issue here. OOo has about 100 sub-domains for language projects, which were all maintained on a volunteer basis so far. If we would now start to subsidize one project, it would create precedence with the consequence, that we have to subsidize every language project, which then means we will need an extra budget of 100,000 Euros for web design. I'm not sure how these funds should be raised. I sort of disagree, as I think the notion of subsidize can be clarified fruitfully. For instance, I'd like to think about the idea of having a slush or reserve fund that can be usefully deployed according to need. Adjudication of such disbursals could be managed by the CC, under the guidance of the NLC leads—Charles and me—with the CC holding not just a rubber stamp but actual discretionary ability, ie, it could say, no. An example of what is needed could relate to events that lead to the expansion of the productive (contributory) community. It could also lead to new and useful localizations. I suggested something like this—the protocol, procedures—at the Hamburg F2F meeting last February, with the particular instance being the localization of OOo to the Botswana language. There is already considerable interest there. But funds are needed. The payoff for us (so to speak) is hard to gauge, but this is the nature of such scholarship disbursals: one is sowing but not necessarily reaping. At least not now. But later, yes: if Botswana, or Japanese language groups can act efficiently with funds donated by us, the OOo Community, then the upshot is more contributions, more momentum, more ecosystem development. Best regards, Peter Best Louis Following instruction at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2010 here is the relevant infomation.. * status: it's already committed. * what the expenditure is for top page renewal * where the good/services should be delivered: http://ja.openoffice.org/ * which budget category it falls under: General Marketing * value / currency including taxes: 1000Euro * Supplier name: Terada Kazuhiro Thanks, Nakata Maho -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , JA OOO http://ja.openoffice.org/ http://blog.goo.ne.jp/nakatamaho/ ,GPG: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marcon-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: marcon-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san
On 2010-06-17, at 10:55 , Cor Nouws wrote: There will be some draft for funding approval guidelines soon (..). So I think that is a good moment to look at details: what can reasonably be considered useful to fund. of course. for anything like this, careful scrutiny and strong argument is requisite. Regards, Cor louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Microsoft Office online free for all ...
So? Read, for instance, http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2010/06/10/microsoft-office-now-free.aspx relevant cool section: Now, I'm a heavy Word and Excel user. As a writer and analyst at the Fool, I use them every day in the office. I don't have these expensive programs installed on my home computers, however, since I prefer to use the cash for burritos, beer, and other breakfast items. Instead, I use the free Google Docs or OpenOffice applications instead. Louis On 2010-06-11, at 08:12 , Gianvittorio wrote: ... is now reality ... * * * http://office.live.com/?docsf=1 [1] Links: -- [1] http://office.live.com/?docsf=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: marketing conference call in May
Thanks. BTW, where is the agenda posted? I'd like to see, even if I cannot attend this conference, that we focus on some points, such as the internship programme, OOoCon, ODF, and so on and on, now that I think of it…. Louis On 2010-05-16, at 05:55 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, I'd like to remind you of this poll. At the moment, we don't have more than 3 participants per call. If anyone else has time and wants to join, please let us know - otherwise I propose we move the call to June. Florian Florian Effenberger wrote on 2010-05-12 12.19: Hello, it's already mid of May, so it's time to find the date for our monthly conference call. Unfortunately, I'm rather busy these days, so I only found two dates that would work for me. A Doodle poll is available at http://www.doodle.com/zdzs42mekdp5e8qd and I invite all of you to participate. Should these two dates be inconvenient for you, we can move the call to June. Hope it works nontheless :-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marcon-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: marcon-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] OOo precense at MITA events
Hi Warren, On 2010-04-29, at 14:07 , Warren wrote: Hi all, Tommorrow at 2pm (gmt+2) I will be attending and presenting topics of opensource software infront of the maltese public, the maltese government and some eu representatives, Great! I should add that one of our first Marketing leads, Martijn Dekkers, hailed from Malta, too, and was indeed deep in the government there and instrumental in shaping (or trying to) Malta's policy. Hopefully this shall boost openoffice.org in malta, aswell as other OSS applications and systems, if some of you have (notes) you may think that may help me finish up and polish my speech that would be great. What are you discussing, what is your focus? Please reply on-list, not to me directly. Thanks Warren Malta macron p.s. sorry for the late notice, had a glitch in the mailserver in malta Thanks louis __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5072 (20100429) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marcon-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: marcon-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [branding] April ConfCall next Monday
Wow, this time I might actually be able to make it! Thanks for setting this up, Louis On 2010-04-19, at 04:13 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, the date for our April marketing conference call is now fixed. It will be Monday, April 26th, 14:00 CEST (UTC+2) To see the date and time in your time zone, visit http://www.doodle.com/33iyq46bynd26bzz Please add your agenda item proposals to our wiki page at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls Looking forward to hearing you next week! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: branding-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: branding-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] ConfCall recording available
Thanks! My apologies for not joining this call; it was important, but I had a conflict that prevented me, unfortunately. Louis On 2010-03-18, at 03:27 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, the ConfCall recording from yesterday is now available: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls#2010-03-17_14:00_UTC Thanks for joining! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marcon-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: marcon-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [xml-dev] DFD this March 30th - What we going to do about it?
Hi, I'd like to see if we can coordinate a press release for DFD on p...@marketing…. Louis On 2010-03-08, at 17:28 , Alexandro Colorado wrote: On March 30th the Document Freedom day is happening and I think we are in good time to start to work on a campaign to show our support on the website. I think this event is pretty important, and we could be working with the communities and spread the word about this relevant event. I think also marketing should put some money to fund the development. Some ideas are: - Showcase the benefits of OpenDocuments - Show the tools that use ODF - Push documentation to the forefront about ODF such as adoption, implementation - Push technical documentation - Projects like www-at-odf and ODFDOM, XSLT-Tools I think this is a relevant event to put our support behind and also OOo does need a more responsive website. -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@xml.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@xml.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] marketing confcall in March
Thanks, Florian. I will try to make this… louis On 2010-03-11, at 04:01 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, it's March already, and that means a new conference call is waiting. :-) I've set up a poll at http://doodle.com/h5f55szed89aa7ph and invite everyone to cast your vote for the preferred day. If nothing fits for you, please ping me and we might find another proposal. If possible, please cast several votes, so we have alternatives. Thanks, Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marcon-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: marcon-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] GSOC 2010?
Others on the CC and I have asked the relevant people at Google and have not received a positive answer regarding OOo. The CC takes the GSoC opportunity (at least for some) quite seriously, and we will continue follow up. BTW, last time was by no means a PR disaster, unless you look at the disaster being laid at Google's feet. It is they not we who have determined who can participate. -louis On 2010-03-05, at 18:44 , Alexandro Colorado wrote: Google summer of code will start organization submition next week. Any plans to participate on this? http://code.google.com/soc/ Would be good if we do have this submition ready ASAP, since last time was a bit of a PR disaster. -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Espantilde;ol IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marcon-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: marcon-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] iPhone App for news on OOo?
How difficult would it be to create an iPhone App that notifies dedicated fans of new releases, extensions, news, etc.? I don't mean an app that works like the holy grail and puts OOo on the phone. I mean simply an information relay/node. -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Fwd: About.com Reader's Choice Awards 2010
All, Please read the below :-) It's good news. Cheers Louis Begin forwarded message: From: Tom Nelson Date: 29 Jan 2010 12:46:09 EST To: lo...@openoffice.org Subject: About.com Reader's Choice Awards 2010 Hello Mac Office Suite Developer, Congratulations! One of your products, OpenOffice.org for Mac, has been nominated in the Best Office Suite category of the 2010 Reader's Choice Awards at About.com. Nominations were made by About: Macs readers during the month of January. Voting for the top five nominees in the Mac System Utility category will begin February 1, and run through February 25. Winners will be announce March 1, 2010. Please inform your users that they can start voting for the Best Mac System Utility at midnight on February 1. If you would like a Reader's Choice Nominee badge for your web site or blog, please email macs.gu...@about.com and I will be happy to send you one. Links: Original Reader's Choice Nomination: http://macs.about.com/od/readertoreader/tp/mac-reader-choice-awards-2010.htm Voting link: Reader's Choice Awards 2010: Let the Voting Begin for the Best Mac Applications http://macs.about.com/od/readertoreader/ss/readers-choice-2010-vote.htm Good luck! Tom Nelson Guide to Macs http://macs.about.com About.com | Guidance. Not Guesswork. About.com is part of The New York Times Company - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Reminder: OpenOffice.org Marketing Conference Call
Hi Unfortunately, it turns out that I won't be able to make the call--ugh! This is, however, what I hope to be a regular convention Cheers, Louis On 2010-01-25, at 11:25 , Florian Effenberger wrote: FYI: The agenda is quite long, so I will try to shorten it in time before the call. I propose you have the wiki page open during the call, so you can refresh your browser to get the most recent agenda Florian Effenberger wrote on 2010-01-25 17.03: Reminder: The OpenOffice.org Marketing Conference call will start in 60 minutes Details can be found at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCall_Agenda - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hi, On 2010-01-19, at 09:15 , WorldLabel.com wrote: There has been some discussion off-list about ODF. I think it would be a great idea to include information on the format at the booth also. I will make contact with some folks at the Opendocumentfellowship and ODFalliance to see if we can gather some help from them. Thoughts would welcomed. Well, I've been involved in those discussions, as I'm on two Oasis Technical Committees advocating the use and normalization of ODF (Oasis is the org. that maintains the standard) and I promote the development of the standard around the world. ODF is supported by a wide consortium of public and private enterprises. It is seen as the wedge by which other public goods, such as OOo, can be introduced to otherwise closed shops. It's thus pretty important, both in itself and as a tactical tool. And it's something that librarians and archivists, around the world, really like. Engaging the ALA (and also, I'd think) in the global campaign to move to a true open standard like the ODF is, I think, a solid tactic and might be a stronger one than focusing on OOo alone. (OOo is the implementation and is not commensurate with the standard; it, OOo, can implement--and does--other formats. The format is not the same as the application that implements it.) I've been trying to get the Canadian equivalent of the ALA to adopt the ODF, and have also worked with the Swedish equivalent and others. The tide is turning--and I'm delighted to say, to a rational solution that favours open standards and sustainable tools. Cheers, Louis On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy, Had a chance to talk with Mr. Widick at the ALA. Details at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 Drew Drew, I found one small problem on the wiki. Seems the link to my web page has a '|' at end that seem to cause a problem when trying to follow the link. I am not sure how to go about editing so wanted to drop you a message. -- Andy Brown La Mesa, CA 91942 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html OpenOffice.org Community Distributor CD/OEM Distribution Project member Documentation Project member Marketing Project member User Experience Project member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] newslet...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing list
Hi On 2010-01-16, at 08:37 , Juergen Schmidt wrote: On 1/16/10 12:08 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, my perception is that the newslet...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing list isn't widely used anymore. It was dedicated to the compilation for the newsletter and for sending news clippings to. I suggest to use the d...@marketing mailing list for that and closing down the newsletter@ list. +1 Juergen The only reason to keep Newsletter alive is b/c, sometimes, people want products services related to OOo, and even based on it, announced. I'd be quite agreeable to using the Newsletter that Kay issues monthly for this purpose, and even see about setting up an RSS feed for such things, provided that it could be maintained easily--i.e., with the modicum of actual human effort. -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] The SCALE 8X Call For Papers | SCALE 8x - 2010 Southern California Linux Expo
SCALE 8X is next February and as with previous years, they've invited us to be there. The problem is, Who? I'm actually not sure there are any active community members in the Southern California area who could put on (or help put on) a meaningful presence--even a booth. If OOo people do exist there and are willing, then let's start a conversation and see what can be done. That said, they've also posted a CfP whose deadline is quite soon: 15 December. (I just learned of this deadline.) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/ http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/scale-8x-call-papers -louis
Re: [marketing] openoffice....@fosdem 2010
Thanks! Louis PS, Juergen et al., let's see if we can produce collateral that can be widely reused, so as to save money. On 2009-11-11, at 05:44 , Juergen Schmidt wrote: Hi, i just want o inform you that i have requested an OpenOffice.org stand and again an OpenOffice.org Developer Room for the next FOSDEM, February 2010 in Brussels. This is a pre announcement only because we are not finally accepted. The final decision is expected at the end of November. But for both we will need help and the time is short as always. Stand - we need people to help at the stand to answer questions, promote and demo our product, to build community and relationship to other projects ;-) - we need people for the organization (coffee, demo workplace, demos, ...) - merchandising materials (shirts, stickers, ...) - tbd Developer Room - we need interesting talks, workshops etc. - call for papers is coming soon As soon as i have more details i will come back to keep you informed. But here and today i would like to encourage you to think about the FOSDEM and how you can potentially help to make it a success. Think about an interesting development oriented talk or workshop, think about sponsoring ;-), think about participating and help at the stand etc. Follow up discussion please on the confere...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing list and later maybe on a dedicated FOSDEM list (that doesn't yet exist) Regards Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] updates on OOMouse
The latest from Theo of OOMouse is that he is making the changes in his PR copy and site that more accurately reflect the relationship between OpenOffice.org and his work. I'll review these changes shortly, after the US site has woken up and finalized them. It's still too early for much of North America for nonsleeepless to do work. Again, I'm not blaming anyone, except myself, for the confusion and mistakes produced here. Theo long ago contacted me about his idea of the mouse, and I encouraged his work, suggesting he propose an Incubator project on it. I do that a lot, to people, groups, who want to work with us. And I stand by my encouragement of Theo and of others. The mistake was in not clarifying to him what he could and could not do, and what he could and could not claim, with the relationship established once he joined the community. As I mentioned to Florian, this is the first such mistake we've seen, and I think it will probably be the last. --- I hope that this confusion will not adversely affect judgement on Theo's proposal for an Incubator project for OOMouse. I think the issues are quite separable. I still consider the idea, though initially kind of funky, as having lots of potential, especially in the area of accessibility. As I am not a gamer (or at any rate, not a good one), I don't see the advantage there. But as I'm more and more involved in accessibility issues, I do. But even if it is not great for any one obvious use, it can also fit into the broad category of OOo in portable devices. As you know, OOo is carried around in millions (not a mistype) of USB keys, and there are at least two groups working on that. After long discussions, John Haller's PortableApps joined the project: yay! I think that by joining OOo more directly, we can all benefit, as coordination of information, as in this case, has its plusses. And I've been encouraging the other device maker, which caters more to enterprises, to do the same, and for the same reasons. I *want* people and groups to join OOo and work with us, and if there are occasional egg-in-your-face goof-ups, I can live with that. The benefits outweigh the minuses. Best, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [project leads] updates on OOMouse
On 2009-11-09, at 12:46 , Frank Loehmann wrote: Hi Louis, Thank you for clarifying this. Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: The latest from Theo of OOMouse is that he is making the changes in his PR copy and site that more accurately reflect the relationship between OpenOffice.org and his work. I hope this change also includes the removal of the [...] The Mouse team have worked closely with experts from the OpenOffice.org User Experience project to deliver the full benefits of the world's leading open-source office software to the fingertips of users. [...] [1] It should certainly. Liz only had mail contact to Theo and provided him public available usage data from the User Feedback Program [2], so that he could configure his mouse on real usage data. So talking about worked closely with experts from the OpenOffice.org User Experience project is misleading and he never asked for a permission for this quote. I have asked the members of the CC to clarify our--OOo's-- relation to oomouse. Theo is free to include OpenOffice.org in the product and free to ask for supportive quotes and free to use both (after, I hope, submission for review), but not free to make claims that mislead. Nor is he free to manipulate our logo and marks as he sees fit. Best regards, Frank [1] http://www.openofficemouse.com/pr110609.html] [2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Tracking_results -louis -- Sun Microsystems GmbHFrank Loehmann Nagelsweg 55 User Experience StarOffice 20097 HamburgPhone: (+49 40)23646 882 Germany Fax: (+49 40)23646 550 http://www.sun.demailto:frank.loehm...@sun.com OpenOffice.org User Experience Team http://ux.openoffice.org Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH,Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schröder, Wolfgang Engels, Wolf Frenkel Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [project leads] Re: [marketing] Re: [project leads] updates on OOMouse
Ciao, Italo, On 2009-11-09, at 14:22 , Italo Vignoli wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts ha scritto: I have asked the members of the CC to clarify our--OOo's-- relation to oomouse. Theo is free to include OpenOffice.org in the product and free to ask for supportive quotes and free to use both (after, I hope, submission for review), but not free to make claims that mislead. Nor is he free to manipulate our logo and marks as he sees fit. I have received a number of enquiries from the Italian press, mostly because they have seen the article on Slashdot. To clarify the issue, I have prepared a statement that says that the author was allowed to present at the OOo Conference and prepare a prototype for this purpose, but then has gone beyond this issuing a press release with statements that do not reflect the real situation. By the way, I have had the mouse in my hand for a few seconds, and I don't think that a normal appendix (i.e., the usual five fingers) can handle the rodent efficiently. Also, in order to remember the zillions of theoretical combinations you would need a RAM upgrade, in order to avoid a buffer overflow ;-) Thanks. I would like for us, first, to be in agreement, and have sent the copy to the CC members offlist, for their input, prior to making it public. I expect some changes. Theo of OOMouse (which has to change its name) has agree, too, to help out with the statement to the press. The press must be notified and I hope to do that in full agreement from the project today. (El Reg got it... sigh). John has stepped out but when he returns, shortly, we can talk and I hope come to a swift agreement. Again, no one is being blamed for this series of mistakes, but for that very reason, I would expect immediate action on the part of War Mouse to rectify what I persist in believing are honest mistakes. Ciao, Italo -- Italo Vignoli tel +39.348.5653829 SIP: +39.02.320621813 it...@italovignoli.com skype italovignoli louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Fwd: Google Alert - openoffice
All, Well, I came back from a really wonderful OOoCon to read these review about oomouse, the multibutton mouse that includes OpenOffice.org . (Like many, I have a Google alert on openoffice. What a surprise. oomouse is by no means official, as the PR seems to have it. It should not have our branding or any other statement indicating that it is an official OpenOffice.org effort. Theo is certainly free to claim the facts, that oomouse has been proposed as an Incubator project and people have voted on it according to the protocols, which have been written to ensure that we do not end up having projects without contributors. But the project is not in Incubator, and even if it were, it would still not be an official OpenOffice.org project, by which Theo seems to understand that to mean a project endorsed by and representing the OpenOffice.org community. (Incubator is where we site experimental and initial projects.) To state things clearly, oomouse is not an official OpenOffice.org mouse or device, has not been endorsed by OpenOffice.org, and is not permitted to manipulate the logo as has been done; I do not believe Theo has been given explicit permission even to use the logo. The logo is not subject to unauthorized free modification and redeployment. And any authorized use of it should only be to represent the contents of the software, that the mouse uses OpenOffice.org, not that the mouse itself is somehow an OpenOffice.org device and able to use our branding to sell it. Note, I'm not giving permission to use our logo and mark. That permission has not, been given, as far as I could tell, and if it had been, at one point, even by me, I rescind its use, as it has been used in way that is misleading. (I would consider allowing the narrow use of OpenOffice.org (R) to indicate that the free software product OpenOffice.org is included in the (nonfree) mouse. How did this regrettable confusion come about? My guess is that there has been a significant misunderstanding and misreading of terms, and where it is true, that if the project is sited in the Incubator category the lead can say, X is in the OpenOffice.org domain and that X is an Incubator project, and explain, I'd hope, what that means, but not suggest that X is an official OpenOffice.org project or effort and that the community has somehow engaged in a partnership with Theo's company. (What's an official project? Well, the closes is our Accepted Projects category. The projects there tend to be those developing core functionality of OpenOffice.org or longstanding and important contributor projects like Marketing. But even here, I doubt many of us would use the terms I read today.) I'm not blaming Theo for this confusion. I blame myself for not being more patient or clear in explaining to him what these terms mean and what they don't. I guess I'm just so used to them, and am unused to alternative readings of them. Theo even approached me in Orvieto at a reception to ask what else needs to be done for oomouse to become an Incubator Project. As the vote had gone according to the Protocols for Project Proposal (see http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/protocols_proposing.html ), and there was some interest, though I have not reviewed how much there was, nothing much needed to be done on his end, or rather, only the formal and procedural elements, like I creating the project, he finalizing the mission statement, I getting his ssh2 key installed, he submitting the SCA, if relevant, and so on. (None of these procedural steps has yet been taken, I believe, and there is no http://oomouse.openoffice.org ; I have not created it.) But even once those necessary procedures are accomplished--and the process is explained in the Protocols and Theo assured me had read them--no Incubator project can claim that it is an official OpenOffice.org project. Clearly, I should have emphasized these steps to Theo and what they mean and what is meant by incubator. And I shall clarify the language of the Protocols so that misunderstandings, for this is what I believe this is, do not occur again. I have just now asked Theo to immediately withdraw the misleading PR and to clarify the situation. I have also informed him to remove our logo and that he does not have permission to manipulate it. It is not covered by a free or open license but is proprietary and owned by Sun. Again, I find this to be a really unfortunate situation very likely produced by misreadings, misunderstandings, mistakes and my own failure to monitor things more closely and carefully. I hope this sort of thing does not happen again and will try to clarify the relevant texts. And I'm sorry that the mistakes here have surely marred Theo's announcement. -louis Begin forwarded message: From: Google Alerts googlealerts-nore...@google.com Date: 07 Nov 2009 10:39:55 EST To:
[marketing] [council-discuss] Final draft of Vote 2009 November
All, By now you have met the candidates [0] and it is time to start voting. The Election Process [1] instructs us to allot two weeks for voting. That period will begin now and end 16 November 2009. We will be sending out the URL to voters where one will go to cast your votes very shortly, along with further instructions. We detail this in the Election Process and in the Council Charter [2], but it is worth going over here. We are voting here for ** One Code Contributor Representative. • Those who are in the Code Contributor Representative's constituency can vote. That includes all active code contributors - people who constantly contribute code to the project under the general rules of the project, as defined by following criteria: • contributor is a domain developer • contributor has commit access to the OpenOffice.org code repository • contributing code with the established child workspace processes • contributing under the accepted term and conditions of the project (SCA, formerly known as JCA or CA). • contributor constantly takes over ownership of child workspaces (took ownership of at least one CWS within the last 6 months). ** One Native Language Confederation (NLC, Lang) Representative. Those eligible include category leads, project leads and co-leads from native-lang projects, plus project lead and co-leads of l10n project. ** One Product Development Representative. Those eligible include category leads, project leads and co-leads of all OpenOffice.org projects (Accepted and Incubator) but not from the Native-Lang category or l10n project. We have compiled a list of those who are eligible to vote and we will invite the members of the constituencies by direct mail which explains how and where to vote. If you run into problems feel free to contact the commissary and observers. Commissary: Louis Suarez-Potts Observers: Drew Jensen, Mechtilde Stehmann, Stefan Taxhet Ciao, - Louis (on behalf of the OpenOffice.org Community Council) -- Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager, Sun Microsystems, Inc. OpenOffice.org ** URLs: [0] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Candidates_October_2009 [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Election_Process [2] http://council.openoffice.org/councilcharter12.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@council.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@council.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Community Council/Items/Candidates October 2009 - OpenOffice.org Wiki
All, The nominees for this election cycle have been determined. They are Jürgen Schmidt, Charles-H. Schulz, Alexander Colorado, and Christoph Noack. You know them all already, so, with the candidates agreement, we have shortened the introductory period and hope to start voting later this week, perhaps by Thursday. I will send the necessary information for voting later on. I have posted a wiki page that links to the candidates' brief wiki bio (I didn't see Christoph's) and also their acceptance note.[0] As well, the candidates have already been doing the necessary job of informing you, the OpenOffice.org Community, about themselves and why they want to join the Council. Feel free to ask them questions related to their goal. The candidates and the seats for which they are standing for election are described in the wiki. As well, the Election Process [1] is useful to go over, and the Council main page, which describes the CC and is current lineup, may help with understanding what we do and do not do.[2] Cheers, Louis [0] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Candidates_October_2009 [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Election_Process_Proposal [2] http://council.openoffice.org/#council -- Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager OpenOffice.org
[marketing] Fwd: [lca-announce] linux.conf.au Call for Papers are now open!
Not sure if others caught this. louis Begin forwarded message: From: linux.conf.au Announcements lca-annou...@lists.linux.org.au Date: 28 Jun 2009 11:07:36 GMT-04:00 To: lca-annou...@lists.linux.org.au Subject: [lca-announce] linux.conf.au Call for Papers are now open! Reply-To: lca-annou...@lists.linux.org.au === linux.conf.au Call For Papers === linux.conf.au ( http://www.lca2010.org.nz ) is pleased to announce the opening of its Call for Papers for the coming linux.conf.au, LCA2010! LCA2010 will be held from Monday 18 January 2010 to Saturday 23 January 2010 in Wellington, New Zealand. linux.conf.au isn't just a Linux conference. It is a technical conference about Free and Open Source Software, held annually in Australasia since 2001 - covering everything from the Linux Kernel and the BSDs to OpenOffice.org, from networking to audio-visual magic, from hardware hacks to Creative Commons. === Important Dates === Call for Papers opens: Monday 29 June 2009 Call for Papers closes: Friday 24 July 2009 Email Notifications from Papers Committee: Early September 2009 Registrations open: Mid September 2009 Conference Dates: Monday 18 January to Saturday 23 January 2001 === Information on Papers === The LCA2010 Papers Committee is looking for a broad range of papers spanning everything from programming and software to desktop and userspace to community, government and education but there is one essential: The core of your paper must relate to open source in some way, i.e., if it's a paper about software then the software has to be licensed under an Open Source license. The LCA2010 Papers Committee welcome proposals for Papers on the following topics: * Kernel and system topics such as filesystems and embedded devices * Networking topics such as peer to peer networking, or tuning a TCP/IP stack * Desktop topics such as office and productivity applications, mobile devices, peripherals, crypto security and viruses and other malware * Server topics such as clusters and other supercomputers, databases and grid computing * Systems administration topics such as maintaining large numbers of machines and disaster recovery * Programming topics such as software engineering practices and test driven development * Free Software and Free Culture topics, including licencing and Free and Open approaches outside software * Free Software usage topics, including home, IT, education, manufacturing, research and government usage. Most presentations and tutorials will be technical in nature, but proposals for presentations on other aspects of Free Software and Free Culture, such as educational and cultural aspects are welcome. LCA2010 is pleased to invite proposals for three types of papers: * Presentation - 45 minutes * Tutorials - 1 hour and 45 minutes (short) * Tutorials - 3 hours and 30 minutes (long) Presentations are 45 minute slots (including questions) that are typically a one-way lecture from you to the audience - the typical conference presentation. These form the bulk of the available conference slots. Tutorials are either 1 hour and 45 minutes, or 3 hours and 30 minutes in length, and work best when they are interactive or hands-on in nature. Tutorials are expected to have a specific learning outcome for attendees. To increase the number of people that can view your talk, LCA2010 may video the talks and make them publicly available after LCA2010. When submitting your proposal you will be asked whether materials relating to your paper can be released under a Creative Commons ShareALike License. For more information, see: http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/papers_info === About linux.conf.au === linux.conf.au is one of the world's best conferences for free and open source software! The coming linux.conf.au, LCA2010, will be held at the Wellington Convention Centre in Wellington, New Zealand from Monday 18 January to Saturday 23 January 2010. LCA2010 is fun, informal and seriously technical, bringing together Free and Open Source developers, users and community champions from around the world. LCA2010 is the second time linux.conf.au has been held in New Zealand, with the first being Dunedin in 2006. For more information see: http://www.lca2010.org.nz/ === About Linux Australia === Linux Australia is the peak body for Linux User Groups around Australia, and as such represents approximately 5000 Australian Linux users and developers. Linux Australia facilitates the organisation of this international Free Software conference in a different Australasian city each year. For more information see: http://www.linux.org.au/ === Emperor Penguin Sponsors === LCA2010 is proud to acknowledge the support of our Emperor Penguin Sponsor, InternetNZ. For more information see: http://www.internetnz.org.nz/ === Papers Enquiries === LCA2010 Papers Committee Email: pap...@lca2010.org.nz -- Andrew Ruthven
[marketing] Home - Software Freedom Day Wiki
OpenOffice.org has always celebrated Software Freedom Day (SFD). And this year should prove no exception. I would like to see about posting links and icons related to it on the public pages, to announce to the world the importance we attribute to software freedom. As well, we can use that SFD to bring in more people to the broad community that constitutes OpenOffice.org. So let's get going! Cheers Louis http://softwarefreedomday.org/
[marketing] SFD project registration
I began the process of registering OOo as a team for SFD but had to abandon it mid-doing. We already have from previous years a page, http://softwarefreedomday.org/OpenOffice . But need one for the teams. See, http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/register.html Feel free to finish the job; I can try tomorrow but cannot now. thanks Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Fwd: Community Choice Awards: Voting Link
Hello, all! Read Ross's message below and let's act on it. Post the link, forward it, get the word out. Let's win--again! -cheers, Louis Begin forwarded message: From: Ross Turk Date: 24 Jun 2009 6:09:28 GMT+08:00 To: Louis Suarez-Potts louis at openoffice.org Subject: Community Choice Awards: Voting Link Hello! We've begun the final voting phase for the 2009 Community Choice Awards. Your project, OpenOffice.org, is a finalist in Best Project for Government. This email contains an HTML snippet that you can use to make it easy for people to vote for you. When someone clicks on this link, they'll begin our voting process with your project preselected. a href=http://sf.net/community/cca09/vote/?f=433; img border=0 src=http://sf.net/awards/cca/badge_img.php?f=433; /a Feel free to use this snippet on your blogs and community pages, or distribute the link itself through your favorite social networking services (like perhaps Twitter?) Voting is open until July 20th, so make sure people vote before then! Congratulations again on being a finalist, and thanks for participating in our program. Ross Turk Director of Community, SourceForge - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] introduction
Hello, Péter! It's a pleasure to hear from you (and your team) On 2009-06-03, at 06:41 , Szakál Péter wrote: Dear All! Let me introduce myself, my name is Peter Szakal. I work with open source softwares since 2004, when we released our software package based on OOo under the name SpringOffice. Since 2005 I am a co-owner of Open SKM Agency, an agency offering consultancy and management services. As a partner of Sun Microsystems we are the exclusive representative of StarOffice in Hungary. In the last few years we co-ordinated government lobby activity together with different companies (Sun Microsystems, IBM, Oracle, ULX/Red Hat) and civil organizations (ODFA, IVSZ) to end the monopol situation of Microsoft on the public software market. Our activity was successful: the secretary for Informatics and Government Commissioner announced the Hungarian government is going to increase its use of open source software and will make 21 million Euro available for open source softwares. Congratulations! This is very good news indeed, and quite in keeping with the worldwide trend to Foss and ODF in government. We also supported and managed local FLOSS events like FLOSS Farm, participated at conferences and published articles and created studies in the subject of Open source softwares especially StarOffice and OpenOffice. I am the teamleader of the commity to organise OOoCon in Budapest - as it is already known we won the tender for the year 2010. Yes, indeed. I think we all look forward to the event there. If you would like to know more about our activity, click on the link: http://openskm.com/press/index.html Thanks; I shall. In the future I would like to become an active member of the OpenOffice.org marketing project and share my experiences with the OOo community. I think we can start sooner than that (though, of course the future is always when you make of it). I'm thinking that one thing that needs to be strengthened in Eastern Europe is in fact Foss and OOo, as it is suffering in places such as Romania, where the government has recently opted to ignore Foss and opt for far more limiting proprietary alternatives. What would thus be useful is to learn of the strategies and tactics your team and those who worked with you employed. For instance, was the active intervention of the multinationals you mention a crucial factor? It often is--a nation is more willing to listen if it can anticipate or bank upon investment in it by a multinational. It's less keen on supporting those groups which only promise to save money, foster a vibrant ecosystem, enhance and develop democracy and provide a sustainable social and informational base. All those things take time to develop, unlike the promise of a development station (or whatever) that can be promised today for next quarter. Best, Peter SZAKAL Open SKM Agency Ltd. +36-70-704-5669 szakal.pe...@openskm.com Péter, btw, you might want to think twice about putting your telephone numbers in your sig; this is a public list and public means tens of millions can view it, today, tomorrow, forever. Ciao, :Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager, Sun Microsystems, Inc. OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OpenOffice.org - Wolfram|Alpha
I'm sure others are curious about how Wolfram Alpha digests a search entry like OpenOffice.org http://www99.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=OpenOffice.org louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] VietNamNet - Vietnam to widely use open source software
To us, this is not exactly news, but to the world it is. Congratulations to Clytie Siddall, and the many who have made this not just possible but necessary. Cheers and happy new year, Louis http://english.vietnamnet.vn/tech/2009/01/822425/
[marketing] Some events coming up
2009 is sooner than we think but probably not as soon as some of us would like. it's time, too, to think about events where OOo should be. Florian and John are also on this. Some funding from the CC is likely to be available for *big* targeted events. As well, as we've often suggested, we need to place such events in a wiki or equivalent technology. I think that there are several options out there. I'm fine with a wiki but it's a little clumsy for a calendar. For the two events below, I would like to ask the CC for appropriate funding. Events == * LCA09: 19-22 January Hobart, Australia (Tasmania, actually) I am presenting there on OOo and also will be on a panel on Foss business. Our miniconference proposal was not accepted. LCA is important and if those in the area wish to staff a booth or be there for BoFs or impromptu meetings, please, let's do this. * Fosdem 09: 6-9 February, Brussels, Belgium. OOo will have not just a stand but also a DevRoom, on Saturday 07 Feb. Last year was a terrific success. it's not clear, however, that this year we will be able to have as many from Hamburg there, but I do hope that we can have some key developers. Fosdem is a *developer event* and for that reason it's also a crucial event for cross-project networking and learning. These are just the two most immediate ones that come to mind and do not include those in India, Asia, Africa, or even Latin America. Please suggest others and, ideally, put them in a wiki that we can then edit (or if not a wiki, an equivalent). Fwiw, many of the usual events, such as LinuxTag, I have not listed; feel free to do so, and do not feel bound by any notion that the event must be in English. Marketing is for all projects, including developer ones. As well, some of the classic ones have changed time. Eg., Fisl has moved to end of summer and Oscon is now at the end, too, and in San Jose, USA. -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] JavaOne, Community One CFPs
Of interest JavaOne and CommunityOne. OOo does work with Java. :-) Be exciting if we could get several papers presented on OOo, ODF, Java. The Call-for-Papers process is in full swing for both events, with closure soon approaching. CommunityOne CommunityOne East - March 18-19, 2009 - New York City CommunityOne West - June 1-2, 2009 - San Francisco Deadline to submit speaking abstracts: Dec. 11, 2008 Event Details (external): http://developers.sun.com/events/communityone/ Questions/Inquiries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JavaOne JavaOne - June 2-5, 2008 - San Francisco Deadline to submit speaking abstracts: December 19, 2008 Even Details (external): http://java.sun.com/javaone/ Questions/Inquiries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -louis
[marketing] first summary of OOoCon 2008
All, Others will write more about OOoCon 2008, and they should :-) There will also be videos and many blog accounts, including my own. But I thought I'd send in this brief summary of the 6th OOoCon, the first held in Beijing, but I hope not the last held in Asia. It was a success, at least if measured by the camaraderie created and renewed, the interest value of the panels, the (possible) expansion of the community. Our hosts, chiefly Redflag 2000, and other members of the Beijing area and Chinese NLC community, did a superb job of making us feel at home and providing the attendees with excellent hospitality. We all owe them our thanks for the honour shown us! China is serious, very serious, about Foss and OOo. They see its potential. The alternative is unacceptable. The problem, and I'm not sure it's exactly a problem, is moving ahead so that their use of Foss, and OOo, is sustainable. Put another way, consumption must be coupled with production, but, like everyone else, they lack those able to produce OOo, and China (to speak of a vast nation as a single they), like so many other polities and regions around the world, perceive Foss as implying an unfamiliar culture of production and distribution. Perhaps it does. But OOo is nothing if not very flexible and international, and does not impose a single way of doing things. We just want people to do things--collaboratively, and now. Time is not pausing while we catch our breath and neither is anyone else. As I said on the opening day: Act now. My thanks to all who attended and my hope that those of you who could not can catch the panels and discussions when they are posted and will comment on the content. The conversations begun in Beijing must be continued; what was said and done there should not be forgotten. OpenOffice.org has a reached a milestone, where our maturity as an application is recognized around the world (the numbers prove it) and our format, which allows so many other applications to work with it, gaining very quickly among governments. And this all means we need to inform the adopters how to work with us, to sustain the project; promote among users everywhere the idea of OOo as something more than a mere commodity but as something that is extensible, modfiable, and theirs, as well as a community thing. And we need to act now. Thanks to all, and thanks to Redflag 2000 and the Chinese Native Lang Community! Cheers, -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Southern California Linux Expo 7x
All, Gareth Greenaway of the Southern California Linux Expo has invited OpenOffice.org to present. SCALE takes place in Los Angeles (in Southern California) 20-22 Feb. 2009. Previously, some OOo presence has been noted there, and it seemed to go well; also, the event has gained momentum and importance over the years. I have only heard positive things about this event. The issue is that we have very few actually in the area, and probably no certain funding for getting people there. Gareth has offered us booth space and booth things (table, chair, outlet), but the rest is up to us, such as banners, collateral, monitors, etc. Usually, the kindness of strangers allows us to make ends meet. I'd like it if we could have a presence at this event. But the logistics are formidable. I also have no time to organize our presence there, so If you are interested, indicate here, on this list. We can set up a wiki page for coordination, too. -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] pictures/videos/etc from SFD 2007
Hi, Do we have any nice pictures or whatever from last year's Software Freedom Day? If so, can you share them? thanks, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] screenshots
Hi I'm looking for good screenshots of 3.0.. can someone help me find them? And if we don't have them now, produce them? Thanks! Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] screenshots
Thanks! On 2008-08-07, at 11:47 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Louis, I'm looking for good screenshots of 3.0.. can someone help me find them? And if we don't have them now, produce them? in German, we have these: http://de.openoffice.org/product/index30beta.html in general, here are some: http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/featurelistbeta.html Florian -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Mini-Conference at Linux.conf.au (LCA)
Hi, On 2008-08-04, at 23:07 , Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Several years ago, we had a mini-conference at LCA. I'd like to see if we have the interest and human resources to do the same. I'm planning on submitting a talk and would hope to go--my talk was accepted last year but I couldn't make it--and would be interested in helping with a mini-conf, should it make sense to have it. I just submitted a proposal for a miniconf. If you want to attend and can, we can start working on that. Needless to say, this is a pretty important event: I think it quite important to re-engage the Australian and New Zealand communities. And where better than Hobart? :-) -louis From the website: linux.conf.au opens on Wednesday January 21st 2009 and runs through Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. The event finishes with a spectacle of colour and activity with the Open Day on Saturday January 24 2009. Miniconfs will be held as usual on Monday 19th and Tuesday 20th. - http://linux.conf.au/ The event will be in Hobart, Tasmania. -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Best of open source productivity apps Slide: 6
I'm sure we've all seen this by now, but it complements the SourceForge community awards and others. It's a good and welcome bit of news and it's always welcome to know that the users of the world appreciate what the Community is doing. http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/2008/08/165-best_of_open_so-6.html thanks, Louis
[marketing] Mini-Conference at Linux.conf.au (LCA)
Several years ago, we had a mini-conference at LCA. I'd like to see if we have the interest and human resources to do the same. I'm planning on submitting a talk and would hope to go--my talk was accepted last year but I couldn't make it--and would be interested in helping with a mini-conf, should it make sense to have it. -louis From the website: linux.conf.au opens on Wednesday January 21st 2009 and runs through Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. The event finishes with a spectacle of colour and activity with the Open Day on Saturday January 24 2009. Miniconfs will be held as usual on Monday 19th and Tuesday 20th. - http://linux.conf.au/ The event will be in Hobart, Tasmania. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Marketing Plan for the 3.0
Hi all, On 2008-06-12, at 15:59 , John McCreesh wrote: On Mon, June 9, 2008 23:33, Alexandro Colorado wrote: wasn't there a convetion to generate this pages like Markeing/Draft areas to have this kind of work? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing#Creating_a_new_page But it's much more fun just to dive in and create a page :-( Has this been done? I really think we have to start and I can gladly get such going John louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Red Hat Summit panel: Who 'won' OOXML battle?
Of real interest. Louis http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/06/19/Red_Hat_Summit_panel_Who_won_OOXML_battle_1.html
Re: [marketing] Marketing Plan for the 3.0
Hi No responses here... and 3.0 is getting closer. Is there a wiki? If not, let's start. I'd love for there to be some collateral created or at least updated; and for our messaging to be determined. ciao louis On 2008-05-06, at 13:34 , Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi, On 2008-05-06, at 10:40 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello, as we're close to release the first beta version of OOo 3.0, we might want to think about the marketing campaign for the 3.0, aside the obvious elements (press release and features pages). Any thoughts? Let's brainstorm on this, please. Keeping in mind that the release of it will be probably sometime before OOoCon. The issues that we do need to cover include: * features * technology * interoperability * extensions * localizations, platforms * communities * support Simply put, 3.0 is pretty important. In some ways, it is more important than 2.0, as it foregrounds extensions and comes at an interesting time for productivity suites and even what counts as one. What I've been arguing, in my presentations, is that OOo 3.0 gives users the tools for producing all sorts of rich content for any kind of audience, in any environment. And that it transcends the limitations of office suites, especially those locked into legacy frames, and embraces the wealth offered by the Internet and Web 2.0. In short, this means that because of extensions and its ability to read OOXML files, it is more than a single and isolated application. Cheers, Charles. thanks Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org wins the 2008 Duke's Choice Award
Hi, On 2008-05-14, at 12:58 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, is that linked from anywhere on the site? it's listed at http://about.openoffice.org Perhaps we can link this from Marketing homepage? That would seem logical. Florian best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Marketing Plan for the 3.0
Hi, On 2008-05-06, at 10:40 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello, as we're close to release the first beta version of OOo 3.0, we might want to think about the marketing campaign for the 3.0, aside the obvious elements (press release and features pages). Any thoughts? Let's brainstorm on this, please. Keeping in mind that the release of it will be probably sometime before OOoCon. The issues that we do need to cover include: * features * technology * interoperability * extensions * localizations, platforms * communities * support Simply put, 3.0 is pretty important. In some ways, it is more important than 2.0, as it foregrounds extensions and comes at an interesting time for productivity suites and even what counts as one. What I've been arguing, in my presentations, is that OOo 3.0 gives users the tools for producing all sorts of rich content for any kind of audience, in any environment. And that it transcends the limitations of office suites, especially those locked into legacy frames, and embraces the wealth offered by the Internet and Web 2.0. In short, this means that because of extensions and its ability to read OOXML files, it is more than a single and isolated application. Cheers, Charles. thanks Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?
Hi, On 2008-05-06, at 09:45 , Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote (2-5-2008 16:47) I have started a wiki page for collecting content for the OpenOffice.org 3.0 feature list page that I talked about before: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_3.0_Feature_List Obviously I've not so much time to spent for this, atm. I did some words this weekend (off-list) and see that you have a different approach. I can do something this evening, I hope, so will continue where you have arrived so far. Ciao, Cor Thanks Erwin! I'll be moving the wiki page to a static page and just doing a copy and paste. If anyone wants to do some nicer css/html work, well, you are invited :-) best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Lindependence
I was recently notified by the organizer, Larry C., of Lindependence 2008. According to Larry, Lindependence 2008 introduces Linux to the town of Felton, California -- about 6,000 people who live at the foot of the San Lorenzo Valley in Santa Cruz County, California. The plan behind Lindependence 2008 involves assisting those wishing to participate to go proprietary free for an entire week -- starting on [USA] Independence Day 2008 -- using their choice of distro and FOSS programs. How is OOo relevant? -- Give OpenOffice.org a presence: We invite OpenOffice.org to have representatives at the meetings and installfests with software and other materials, as well as to stick around for the week to see how this develops. If some of you are based at Sun, you're just over the hill in the Silicon Valley. But we are looking to have people from the OOo user group available to show people how to use OpenOffice and to be around for help during the week of July 4-11. As well, we can help donate to the effort. If people want to participate, let me know. I don't have a URL for this event. Best, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] news on 2.4
The news on 2.4, which was mostly released yesterday, has been strong and positive. Thanks to John for penning the PR and issuing it. It's been caught by all the IT media I read focused on open source in one form or another, and also was slashdotted. I am sure that by now, hundreds of thousands have tried to download it. Mac ports and other languages are still going through the release process and should be up shortly. Their release will start a second wave, I am sure Thanks, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] LinuxWorld San Francisco
Hi, OpenOffice.org has been given the opportunity to hold a booth at LinuxWorld San Francisco this 4-7 August. We have also been given a two-day space (room) for community events, and these could include just about anything. In short, the deal is that we can use LinuxWorld as a community meeting place. Here's some background. LinuxWorld used to be big in open source. Then suits came to recognize the money value of Foss and over a few quick years LW transmogrified. Last time we were there, in 2005 or -06, it was mainly one booth being pitching to another and nary a true developer in sight, let alone someone who hadn't already heard of OOo and claimed to use it. However, there are some changes this time. First, the two-day community day is an opportunity. Our community in the US, and especially places like the SF Bay Area, where it should be big, is small, relative to other polities. This could help in building it. Second, 3.0 is coming out, and this could be a means of staging that Greatly-Desired-Build to those over there. What we need, to make a decision, is some expression of interest by people who could staff a booth and make the community days interesting. Most of us don't live around there, in the SF Bay Area, and flying out there is costly, not to mention bad for the environment. It's also not at all certain that OOo could subsidize any travel or lodging. But speak out. If enough people can do this, I'll move forward with this. Only please act as soon as you can. Thanks louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Our New Look
Tonight, we launched a new look. It is simpler and more effective-- easier to find things, including the download button, support, information and other material users and developers want--and it also looks good. The styling changes affect quite a few pages, and we would like to hear your critiques. Please send them the website team, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The effort was led by Maarten Brouwers, our lead designer, with a lot of brilliant CSS styling and design by Ivan Miskovic, crucial suggestions by Graham Lauder, and invaluable work, feedback, and insight by Christian Lohmaier (co-lead of website), Alexandro Colorado, André Wyrwa, Kay Schenk, and many others not mentioned here but no less important. Thanks to all. Best, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager, Sun Microsystems, Inc. OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] New License and Contributor Agreement
All, Some interesting news. Summary * The license for code is changing from the early LGPL v 2.1 to 3.0 effective the Beta of OpenOffice.org 3.0. (The actual date of this beta has not been finalized.) * The Joint Copyright Assignment form (JCA) is being replaced by the Sun Microsystems Inc. Contributor Agreement (SCA). This change is effective immediately with this announcement. Background == Late last year, there was a discussion about the implications of the ratification of GPLv3 or LGPLv3 for OpenOffice.org among the OpenOffice.org project leads. The leads were generally in favour of adopting the updated licenses. The outcome of this and other discussions is that Sun is changing the license for the OpenOffice.org codebase to the more flexible and protective LGPL v3 [0], effective with the beta of OpenOffice.org 3.0 which is due later this year. This change is supported by the OpenOffice.org Community Council. This move forward is the natural evolutionary step to take for a codebase using a license from the FSF license family. The drafting process for the license involved substantial FOSS community input and we will benefit from this work. In particular, the new license includes additional protections for the community against software patents. OpenOffice.org will continue using the LGPL so as to minimize the disruption to our community and expanding ecosystem, which evolved around the LGPL codebase. The LGPL grants flexibility to a broad range of users and developers, while still ensuring that modifications to the code are contributed back to the community. The new license is a major reason to exchange the Joint Copyright Assignment(JCA) with the Sun Contributor Agreement(SCA) [1]. For OpenOffice.org there will be an addendum, which accommodates developers of the core OOo codebase and of non-core extensions through different contribution models. It does not change the fact that contributions to the product packaged as OpenOffice.org require an SCA. The addendum enables OpenOffice.org to more easily host the source code of extensions, and thus promotes collaboration with other interested parties on the respective extension in a familiar environment. There is similar flexibility for documentation. The creation of the related contribution guidelines is in progress. A large number of GPL/LGPL projects have already moved to v3 [2]. For OpenOffice.org the next major release is the right time to change. Preparations will start immediately, so that we can publish OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta under LGPLv3. The SCA, including the OpenOffice.org addendum, will be published on the OpenOffice.org site together with a FAQ and a pointer to the Sun SCA FAQ [3]. It comes into effect with this announcement. See also our FAQ on licensing. [4]. A copy of this announcement can be found at http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/newlicense2008.html . Regards, Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager OpenOffice.org Sun Microsystems, Inc. [0] http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/lgpl.html [1] http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/sca.pdf [2] http://gpl3.palamida.com:8080/index.jsp [3] http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/contributor_agreement.jsp [4] http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-licensing.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Fwd: OpenOffice.org at LugRadio Live USA 2008
Hi All, I received a note from LugRadio about their upcoming event in San Francisco this April. They've invited OOo to have an exhibit there. If people are interested, please indicate on this list. best Louis LugRadio Live USA in 2008 is taking place at The Metreon in San Francisco. The event will be happening on the 12th and 13th April 2008, and will provide the unique atmosphere of the UK event, but in glorious San Francisco. LugRadio Live has developed a strong reputation for providing a range of topics about free software, Open Source, digital rights, technology and more, a compelling list of speakers, exhibitors and birds of a feather sessions, and wrapping it all in a unique, fun, loose, social and inclusive event, which is often described as combining the atmosphere of a rock concert and a computer conference. At LugRadio Live USA 2008 we plan on bringing this unique atmosphere to the USA, and inviting around 30 speakers, a full cast of exhibiting projects and companies, an eclectic range of BOF sessions, and plenty of additional sessions such as our debate discussion panel, a showcase of five minute talks, tech demos, and of course a live recording of LugRadio in front of an audience. We expect around 500 - 700 attendees to the event. Anyway, to the business in hand... As mentioned, we'll be having an exhibition area where we want to have projects and companies who do cool things. In the past we've had open source projects showing off their work such as KDE, Gnome, and Ubuntu, companies who work with Linux like Neuros, and distributors like Sun, Red Hat and Novell. We were wondering whether you'd be interested in having an exhibition stand at the event this year? Exhibitor space is free; we don't charge, because LugRadio Live is a community event. The focus is on people having a great time, not in making money :-) We'd like it if your exhibition stand could be something fun and interactive, rather than just a table with leaflets and advertising. Another thing: as part of the event, we provide each attendee with a registration bag, containing some free items from different organisations. We try to keep the items in this bag as interesting as possible, and in the past this has included pens, badges, software, clothing and more. If you'd like to contribute something to the bag this year for LugRadio Live USA 2008, we'd be happy to include it. Both the goodie bag and an exhibition stand are excellent ways for you to be associated with a strongly community and Open Source focused event, and the demographic it attracts. For the bag, we will need 500 of whatever you choose to contribute, and all you need to do is ship them to us, there is no charge in addition to sending the items - we will add them to the bags ready for the event. LugRadio Live in the UK has developed a strong reputation for being 'the' community event in the UK, and we are looking to bring this to USA. We would love if you could be one of the organisations who helped make this happen. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] 30,000 Desktop Roll out
Hi Al, On 2008-01-18, at 10:43 , Alan Lord wrote: Hi Guys, I'm not sure if you have this on your wiki for large roll outs but this is a great story: http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=46692 I'll be covering it a tad on my blog when I get chance to write it. This is more than just about OOo. Cheers Al This is terrific news! BTW, we maintain a page of Major Deployments, and feel free to add this to it. It's at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments The way out is open! http://www.theopensourcerer.com Best, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Re: [Marketing] eliberatica.ro 2008
Hi all, On 2008-01-01, at 14:30 , sophie wrote: Hi all, The call for papers is open :) http://eliberatica.ro/2008/ I wish you all a wonderful and happy new year ! You too, and all here! Kind regards Sophie The event is rather interesting, I have come to understand, and I urge all who want to submit papers. Romania, like many countries, is poised to emerge from MS's shadow, and events such as this do wonders for the local community--as well as for the local ecosystem: showing just how popular OOo is is crucial, and showing how powerful we are makes the difference. I've been invited to speak there but don't know if I can go, though I would dearly like to. But I urge others closer to very seriously consider it. Best Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] 2007 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Awards - LinuxQuestions.org
Fyi, Louis http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2007-linuxquestions.org-members-choice-awards-79/
[Marketing] New Community Contributor Representative (CCR)
Happy new year all! I'm pleased to announce that Cor Nouws has been elected the new Community Contributor Representative (CCR) to the Community Council. Congratulations Cor! Kazunari Hirano (Khirano), who also stood for election, has agreed to be his deputy; thanks Hirano-san! The term of office is one year. As to the overall Council this year: Our goal this year is to be more active and more engaged; to represent the interests of the community as effectively as we can. You can help by contributing items to the agenda and suggesting topics. The agenda is on the wiki. See: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/The_OpenOffice.org_Community_Council_Agenda Best, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] CommunityOne - At a Glance
CommunityOne is this 5 May in San Francisco. http://developers.sun.com/events/communityone/ I think it could be useful and interesting for OOo to be there, esp. to promote extensions, and OOo technology. We have very few in SF but given its proximity to the Sun Santa Clara campus (less than 100K) Here is more info: quote The Call for Participation is open from now until January 31, 2008. Submit a session on the subject of your choice: 1. Free and Open (Any and all topics encouraged. It's your conference, help create it.) Or submit a session in one of the proposed topics (this list will change based on your proposals): 2. Projects and Strategy 3. Operating Systems 4. Web Servers and Databases 5. Scripting Languages: Content Authoring and RIAs 6. Tools and Integrated Development Environments 7. Next Generation Web Applications 8. Web Scale Computing 9. Chip Multithreading (CMT) Or if you want to learn about a subject, but don't want to lead a session, add a conference topic to the CommunityOne wiki. Key dates: • Call for Participation closes: January 31, 2008 Submit your proposed session today • Notification of acceptance: February 15, 2008 Conference registration opens January 2008. This year's conference will once again be free, but space will be limited. Registration will go live in January. Questions or comments? Post to the wiki or email the conference team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . /quote -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Reminder - Vote now for Community Contributor Representative
This is a reminder.Voting ends Saturday 22 December 23:59 UTC It's election season and time to vote for the Community Contributor Representative to the Community Council. It's been a while. The CCR holds a seat on the Community Council for one year (more or less) and represents you. Laurent Godard has been the most recent CCR. Voting begins immediately (now) and ends Saturday 22 December at 23:59 UTC. To vote, follow the instructions below, right after the candidate statements. There are two candidates for the CCR office. The candidate is supposed to be someone who is familiar with OpenOffice.org (project and product) and familiar to the community. He or she should be able to speak to the needs of endusers, non-coding contributors, businesses, as well as the Incubator project leads and members. Both candidates are qualified. They are: * Kazunari Hirano I am Kazunari Hirano from OpenOffice.org Japanese Native Language Project, working as Marketing Contact for Japan and Japanese language. I have been the deputy for CCR, leading OpenOffice.org CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) Group. My focus is the localization of OpenOffice.org. I want to help localize OpenOffice.org to as many languages as possible. I and my team are starting Ainu and Klingon localizations. I write articles for OpenOffice.org Newsletter. Community is all about Communication and Motivation. I would like to open up a daily channel between Community Council and Community Members. Thanks. * Cor Nouws It's a honour for me that I've been asked to be a candidate. I am 48 yrs, Dutch, maried, three children, and - as far as time allows - do hobbies like sports and making music. I got involved in the OpenOffice.org community in 2004. The reason fits in the open source tradition: I run a small business supporting our great program and want to spent some energy to make it flourish even more. My activities for the project are various (marketing, qa, ux, Duth NL,...) which gives me a pretty good feeling of what is going on. I'm quite well aware of the special qualities of the OpenOffice.org project, such as the technical complexity, variation in background of people involved, vast interest of big players in the market, different needs for various groups and so on. I do have some experience in committees, which might be helpful to do some good work in the community council. --- To vote, you must be a registered OpenOffice.org community member. Here is how to vote: Log in to OpenOffice.org if you are not already logged in. Go to My start page, and click on the Vote! hyperlink on the right hand side. You will be taken to a page where you can cast your vote. (My start page is at : http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/StartPage) If you are not a member, now is the time to join. To register and join, go to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join. Then follow the instructions above. If you are curious about the Community Council, go to http://council.openoffice.org/ to learn more. ** Remember: Vote by Saturday 22 December 23:59 UTC.** Thanks to Ben Bois, Laurent Godard, and Stefan Taxhet, who have volunteered their time to set this poll up. -Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager Chair, Community Council - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Community Contributor Representative Vote
All, It's election season and time to vote for the Community Contributor Representative to the Community Council. It's been a while. The CCR holds a seat on the Community Council for one year (more or less) and represents you. Laurent Godard has been the most recent CCR. Voting begins immediately (now) and ends Saturday 22 December at 23:59 UTC. To vote, follow the instructions below, right after the candidate statements. There are two candidates for the CCR office. The candidate is supposed to be someone who is familiar with OpenOffice.org (project and product) and familiar to the community. He or she should be able to speak to the needs of endusers, non-coding contributors, businesses, as well as the Incubator project leads and members. Both candidates are qualified. They are: * Kazunari Hirano I am Kazunari Hirano from OpenOffice.org Japanese Native Language Project, working as Marketing Contact for Japan and Japanese language. I have been the deputy for CCR, leading OpenOffice.org CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) Group. My focus is the localization of OpenOffice.org. I want to help localize OpenOffice.org to as many languages as possible. I and my team are starting Ainu and Klingon localizations. I write articles for OpenOffice.org Newsletter. Community is all about Communication and Motivation. I would like to open up a daily channel between Community Council and Community Members. Thanks. * Cor Nouws It's a honour for me that I've been asked to be a candidate. I am 48 yrs, Dutch, maried, three children, and - as far as time allows - do hobbies like sports and making music. I got involved in the OpenOffice.org community in 2004. The reason fits in the open source tradition: I run a small business supporting our great program and want to spent some energy to make it flourish even more. My activities for the project are various (marketing, qa, ux, Duth NL,...) which gives me a pretty good feeling of what is going on. I'm quite well aware of the special qualities of the OpenOffice.org project, such as the technical complexity, variation in background of people involved, vast interest of big players in the market, different needs for various groups and so on. I do have some experience in committees, which might be helpful to do some good work in the community council. --- To vote, you must be a registered OpenOffice.org community member. Here is how to vote: Log in to OpenOffice.org if you are not already logged in. Go to My start page, and click on the Vote! hyperlink on the right hand side. You will be taken to a page where you can cast your vote. (My start page is at : http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/StartPage) If you are not a member, now is the time to join. To register and join, go to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join. Then follow the instructions above. If you are curious about the Community Council, go to http://council.openoffice.org/ to learn more. ** Remember: Vote by Saturday 22 December 23:59 UTC.** Thanks to Ben Bois, Laurent Godard, and Stefan Taxhet, who have volunteered their time to set this poll up. -Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager Chair, Community Council - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Number of contributors
On 2007-11-29, at 14:49 , John McCreesh wrote: I thought I'd seen some analysis of the number of committers to the codebase ... ? Yes. The data were in the links I provided. Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Number of contributors
Hi On 2007-11-28, at 06:29 , John McCreesh wrote: I've had a request about how many people have contributed to the OOo codebase - I'm sure someone here has done some work on this (Alexandro? Charles? ..?) Answering this q. is always difficult, as its phrasing implies individuals, not groups or companies, and in fact, with OOo in particular, groups and companies contribute most. One can use several sources: http://www.openoffice.org/copyright/copyrightapproved.html , and it's probably close to 900 or 1,000. We can also use the Domain Developer page, tho I'm no sure how up-to- date it is: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DomainDeveloper That gives an account of those who have quite powerful privileges. And we can use the *very* out of date credits page, http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html The About box on OOo should have this up-to-date info, but my Mac OS X Aqua version only cites the welcome page, which is of course out of date. Thanks - John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Education Project
Dear all, Apologies for multiple posting. Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The newly active project, Education, focuses on helping students and teachers learn about how to work with OpenOffice.org. Our primary aim is not use but coding, though use is always nice. A lot of work has to be done to make this happen but the payoff is substantial. Students represent the largest potential group of new developers and we need to make it as easy for them and for their teachers to learn about how to code for OOo. Your help and participation is invited. Already, the community, stimulated by co-lead Eric Bachard's efforts, is growing rapidly. Join us at http://education.openoffice.org/ and participate on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. -louis lead, Education Project - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Education Flyer
Okay, more critiques. We should probably create an issue for this. On 2007-11-19, at 15:02 , Alexandro Colorado wrote: Put a template for a flyer with a different form factor that I think is more attractive specially for educators. http://jza.homelinux.net/SchoolFlyer.odp The images are good but we also need text--both to excite new would be developers and also to inform people of what OOo is and does. If anyone wants to contribute to this, that'd be great. Discussions will also be cc'd (or some will) on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again, this flyer is for students, ideally post-secondary and secondary, whose interest in OOo we want to pique, both as developers and consumers. -- Alexandro Colorado Thanks louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] foss.in demonstrations of OOo
Hi all, Apologies for the cross post; please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This 4 Dec., OOo will have a Project Day at foss.in, a large and developer-focused annual event taking place in Bangalore, India. The day is focused on developing the contributor community in India, but there are also going to be opportunities to showcase what OOo does. Sun, for instance, will have a booth, so I have learned. If you are interested in creating a demonstration that thousands will see (and maybe more than that), please let me know. Anything that illustrates OOo's power, flexibility, code, architecture, whatever, will be considered (I refrain from saying outright, accepted). Credit of course will be given where it is due: to you. The deadline: 2 December--or even later: the entire foss.in goes on until 8 Dec., but I'd rather have these sooner than later. Thanks Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi On 2007-11-18, at 17:30 , Alexandro Colorado wrote: I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. Thanks! I will certainly use it and do think that widely posting this is important. I'll use it at the upcoming foss.in, if possible! BTW, we are also interested in promoting OOo in education, among students and professors, and a datasheet (flyer?) that does what this one does (while also promoting use) geared for students is very much desired. I can get funds to print them up, too, and am hoping to distribue it at foss.in. Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] OpenOffice.org at foss.in
All, The OpenOffice.org presence in India is large and growing. Millions use it there, in numerous languages. This December, as part of the internationally renown foss.in conference held annually in Bangalore, OpenOffice.org will have its first Project Day: a day devoted to talks and workshops on OpenOffice.org, its code, architecture, community, extensions, future. You are invited. With members from the local community presenting on issues pertinent to India and with speakers flying in from Germany and Canada, the OpenOffice.org Project Day gives all Indian community members the opportunity not just to learn but to speak their own voice directly to the project leads. And as OpenOffice.org becomes the productivity platform of choice, those voices are ever more important. We look forward to seeing you there. To register for the conference, please go to: * http://foss.in/2007/info/Home . And to learn more about the OpenOffice.org Project Day, go to: * http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/foss.in_project_day.html - The OpenOffice.org Project Day group -- About OpenOffice.org OpenOffice.org is the leading open-source productivity suite. It includes word processing, spreadsheet, presentation, drawing, database, and other modules; it uses the ODF as its native file format as well as supporting other common file formats, including Microsoft Office. The software runs on all major platforms, including Windows, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X, and is available in over 80 languages. OpenOffice.org is interoperable with other popular suites and may be used free of charge for any purpose, private or commercial; the license is LGPL. Since the project's creation by Sun Microsystems in 2000, more than 100 million have downloaded the product; thousands contribute to it. As an international team of volunteer and sponsored contributors, the OpenOffice.org community has created what is widely regarded as the most important open-source project in the world today. The OpenOffice.org community acknowledges generous sponsorship from a number of companies, including Sun Microsystems, the founder and primary contributor. Contacts Louis Suárez-Potts (UTC -04h00) OpenOffice.org Community Manager, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 (416) 531-9513 Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay Bangla Language Project Lead, Red Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] +91 996-060 3294 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] SoCal Linux Expo
Again, a reminder about the SoCal Linux Expo. It seems an interesting event. I don't think we have the resources to staff a booth but arguably can look to CDs and other things that others could hand out. There is also a CFP out. The URL: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Important news regarding the marketing campagin
On 2007-10-09, at 20:32 , Graham wrote: On Wednesday 10 October 2007 04:48, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: [..] So, please don't kill me... ;-) Actually, quite the opposite. I also think that we can very likely use the work done for future efforts. And there will be those! best louis Hi Louis, Frankly I think we're going about this the wrong way. What the project needs to do is to come up with a campaign. Costs, targets, goals and methodologies and then present that to all the corporate partners for a contribution to a war chest. The positive that came out of this debacle is at least we know now that there is a marketing budget to be had. I have always believed that the strength of OOo is in it's mix between community and corporate. We need to leverage that strength. At the moment we're not, the community gets dragged around like the baby of the family: Sit in the back seat, shutup and don't annoy the adults cos we know best. We need to be more proactive No objections from my end. We had this $ emergency (so to speak) and acted speedily. But now we have some time to act more rationally. So let's. And I think Florian also replied Cheers GL Ciao louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Important news regarding the marketing campagin
Hi Florian, On 2007-10-09, at 07:16 , Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi there, I guess you all gonna kill me for that, but... Hardly :-) I'm very sorry on the communication issues and that this quarter we did not have the chance to come up with a design on our own. I hope the marketing project can proove they are able to come up with such things in the future, and I hope we get more time for that to coordinate and publish in the future. I am confident that we are able to bring these things on, and we should get a chance to do so in the future. Again, sorry to all of you who had great ideas and slogans. It was not my decision and not my fault, but given the short period of time, it might have been the only solution. We'll definitely keep the ideas in the Wiki, and I hope we can use them very soon. So, please don't kill me... ;-) Actually, quite the opposite. I also think that we can very likely use the work done for future efforts. And there will be those! best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Fwd: Call For Presentations - SCALE 6x
Hi, On 2007-09-14, at 04:19 , Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Of particular interest, given the marketing priorities we've identified for OOo2.3, is this: ... newly added for SCALE 6X is a Friday conference on education: “Open Source in Education” which focuses on opportunities for Open Source in the field of education. A natural for OpenOffice.org, I think! -- if anyone is available to speak on the topic. I wish I could. Normally, I can't make it then but let's see. So far, my calendar looks open then. OOo could also probably have a (free) booth, if we had people to work at it. I am unable to attend next year's SCALE. I'm always of two minds when it comes to booths-- a lot of work and doubtful payoff. As well, we really don't have many in the area, at least afaik. I've attended one SCALE, in 2006, and thought it was good venue for reaching users as well as developers. So I've heard from others. The OpenDocument booth had copies of the OOoAuthors books on OOo, among other items, and they were quite popular. ALthough SCALE is a Linux conference, many people asked questions related to encouraging Windows users to switch to OOo. Thanks for the info. --Jean My default reaction at this point (as opposed to my kneejerk one) is to suggest we create a wiki of events that all the community--not just the anglophone one--finds interesting. We can divide these by region/country, and call it, /events.html . We can then link this to Marketing wiki and Marketing homepage. best louis Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Scale is an interesting and worthwhile event, from what I have heard from those here who have attended and from those in other projects who have gone. AFAIK, there are very few OOo community members in SoCal, however. I doubt if we would have funds for subsidizing anyone to go to it, but it may be worthwhile to see if there is enough interest in the new and expanded community. Best louis Begin forwarded message: From: Ilan Rabinovitch Date: 10 Sep 2007 1:04:07 EDT (CA) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Call For Presentations - SCALE 6x Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Louis Suarez-Potts, I would like to bring to your attention the 2008 Southern California Linux Expo's Call For Papers. We would like to encourage the OpenOffice community to participate in this year's call for papers. Our 6th annual event, SCALE 6x will be held on February 8-10, 2008 at the Los Angeles Airport Westin. SCALE is an annual technical conference held in the Southern California area. We are a non-profit event organized by USC, UCLA Linux Users Group, and the Simi-Conejo Valley Linux Users Group. SCALE's goal is to bring together all three pillars of the Linux community: open-source users/developers, businesses and academic institutions. Each pillar is critical to the success and growth of Linux and open-source. SCALE has been called .. one of the few good grass-root level technical conferences for Linux by Linux Kernel Developer Robert Love. If you are interested in presenting on a topic related to Linux / open-source, please see the call for papers on our website at: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/calls-for- papers/ Past presentations are available online (including slides and audio): 2007 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale5x/conference+info/ speakers/ 2006 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2006/hours.php 2005 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2005/hours.php 2003 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2003/presentations.php 2002 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2002/presentations.php We hope to see you at SCALE 6x! Best regards, Ilan Rabinovitch Conference Chair Southern California Linux Expo http://www.socallinuxexpo.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Nice Canadian News
Always nice to see one's local area move in the right direction. Québec is probably ahead and my impression has always been that Toronto and the rest of Canada is firmly in the proprietary pocket, so it's refreshing to read things like this. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM. 20070912.wgtfloss13/BNStory/GlobeTQ Best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Fwd: Vietnam finally getting on the band wagon?
Hi, On 2007-09-11, at 05:08 , Lars Noodén wrote: I've added Vietnam's government to our Major Deployments page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments#Asia Thanks! -Lars Damon Anderson (on a non-OOo list) wrote: I have just read in the Saigon Times today that according to the Phap Luat newspaper starting in 2008 the Vietnamese government will be moving 20,000 computers from Microsoft Office to OpenOffice. I have been unable to find a website or reference to link to for Phap Luat. The Saigon Times note is here: http://saigontimes.com.vn/daily/BRIEFs.asp? loai=1Sobao=3022Ten=briefly%20today lsp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Speak to LSU AITP on Sept 30... need suggestions and/or presentation
Mark, On 2007-09-10, at 09:51 , Mark Hicks wrote: Friends... I've been lurking here for some time... Egad :-) I work for IBM and I speak to university groups 4-5 times/year on a variety of topics, most commonly open standards, Eclipse, what it's like in the software business, etc. My blog is at: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/markhicks Another talk I did at LSUE is at: http://www.cct.lsu.edu/programs/seminarsandlectures/ hicks.php (I know how to present and convince). I run OpenSuse on my notebook and have used OOa exclusively for a few years. Interesting blog. This coming September 20 I speak to Louisiana State AITP chapter. http://www.aitp.org This time I want to push Open Office ( know it's a bit self serving with IBM's new incorporation of OOa in Notes, but trust me, I'm not evangelizing IBM products). I'm looking for presentation materials (an odp would be great) or just an outline of points to make in a 45 minute talk to prospective technology business leaders). Hm. A while ago we used to stash presentations on OOo but that was in the early days. Can you be more specific? I mean, are you looking for slides on what it doe, its technology, or how to migrate to it? And, can others help Mark out? Thanks in advance... Mark Hicks Best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Orange UK with marketing campaign for Open Office
On 2007-09-11, at 19:48 , Alex Thurgood wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 14:58:27 Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi Louis, Alex I subscribed for the obvious reason: he's a lawyer and familiar with these issues, though not an expert, I believe. Well actually I am, counseling clients on trademark and other IP rights issues is how I earn a living, so I think I would call myself an expert to the extent and purpose necessary here. :-) And so would I, and am even happier you have joined the trademark list. Glad I was wrong! Alex best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Announcement: IBM Joins the OpenOffice.org Community
All, A Press Release was issued this morning to announce that IBM are joining the OOo community: The OpenOffice.org community today announced that IBM will be joining the community to collaborate on the development of OpenOffice.org software. IBM will be making initial code contributions that it has been developing as part of its Lotus Notes product, including accessibility enhancements, and will be making ongoing contributions to the feature richness and code quality of OpenOffice.org. Besides working with the community on the free productivity suite's software, IBM will also leverage OpenOffice.org technology in its products. The full announcement is available at: * http://www.openoffice.org/press/ibm_press_release.html And Q A at: * http://www.openoffice.org/press/ibm_press_faq.html Cheers, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Fwd: Call For Presentations - SCALE 6x
Hi FYI. Scale is an interesting and worthwhile event, from what I have heard from those here who have attended and from those in other projects who have gone. AFAIK, there are very few OOo community members in SoCal, however. I doubt if we would have funds for subsidizing anyone to go to it, but it may be worthwhile to see if there is enough interest in the new and expanded community. Best louis Begin forwarded message: From: Ilan Rabinovitch Date: 10 Sep 2007 1:04:07 EDT (CA) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Call For Presentations - SCALE 6x Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Louis Suarez-Potts, I would like to bring to your attention the 2008 Southern California Linux Expo's Call For Papers. We would like to encourage the OpenOffice community to participate in this year's call for papers. Our 6th annual event, SCALE 6x will be held on February 8-10, 2008 at the Los Angeles Airport Westin. SCALE is an annual technical conference held in the Southern California area. We are a non-profit event organized by USC, UCLA Linux Users Group, and the Simi-Conejo Valley Linux Users Group. SCALE's goal is to bring together all three pillars of the Linux community: open-source users/developers, businesses and academic institutions. Each pillar is critical to the success and growth of Linux and open-source. SCALE has been called .. one of the few good grass-root level technical conferences for Linux by Linux Kernel Developer Robert Love. If you are interested in presenting on a topic related to Linux / open-source, please see the call for papers on our website at: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/calls-for- papers/ Past presentations are available online (including slides and audio): 2007 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale5x/conference+info/speakers/ 2006 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2006/hours.php 2005 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2005/hours.php 2003 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2003/presentations.php 2002 - http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/past/2002/presentations.php We hope to see you at SCALE 6x! Best regards, Ilan Rabinovitch Conference Chair Southern California Linux Expo http://www.socallinuxexpo.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
