[slim] Re: Empty Library

2006-06-04 Thread JJZolx

arturo Wrote: 
 I'm having the same problem with a new installation. Windows XP pro,
 sp2. Zero artists, zero albums, zero songs, empty. Rescanning does
 nothing The server is now rescanning your Music Library appears,
 nothing happens. 
 I've ripped one CD to my music folder (using Windows Media Player). If
 I browse to the music folder (in Slimserver 6.2.2), I see the artist
 directory, the album directory inside it, but no song files. They
 really are there - *.wma. 
 Restarting the slimserver DID NOT fix the problem.
Arturo, I suspect your issue is something different.  The bug we're
talking about is fairly uncommon.  Try posting in the Beginners forum
and I'm sure you'll get some good suggestions on how to begin
troubleshooting your problem.


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[slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread ceejay

Bee Wrote: 
 can somebody give the rule for knowing the maximum of concurent streams
 with one server (Intel IMac for example) over a 100BT ethernet, with
 mp3 files (256kbps) ... or other configurations ?

Well, at the top end: a 100Mbps LAN should give you about 50Mbps of
usable throughput, so divide 50,000 by 256 to get 195 theoretical
streams.

Other bottle necks include the capacity of your hard disc to deliver
bits (should be more than 50Mbps so not the limit) and the ability of
your slimserver to keep up (which will probably be the limiting factor
in practice - so depends on processor speed, system memory and other
tasks running).

This of course is assuming no transcoding on the server side.

This is a long way of saying there is probably no magic formula which
will tell you what you really want to know. Why not say how many you
were thinking of, and see if anyone can offer evidence of matching
that?

There was also a thread a while ago on how many streams people had
managed, and I seem to remember the answer was tens.

HTH
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[slim] Re: Restart Scanning Playlist with Remote

2006-06-04 Thread Amauta

Maybe this make things more clear:

You can change the function of a button on your remote in a way that by
pressing it, it starts a randomplay songs. Using the randomplay plugin.

Example:

1.hold = modefunction_PLUGIN.RandomPlay::Plugin-tracks


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[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?

2006-06-04 Thread Deaf Cat

Oooo!
What about the odd button on it, like playstop, for when one has
a bit of trouble locating the remote.

Like the idea of a very good dac inside to save another box appearing,
and I like the SB2 size, as SB3 would not fit my shelf space, even
thought I sort of think the SB3 looks a bit better...

Would be an even happier Bunny :)


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[slim] Re: NAS Device (the Kuro Box)

2006-06-04 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
one of the best investments I've ever made is the purchase six weeks 
ago of my $149 KuroBoxHG


This sounded very interesting, and I found where you can buy it at 
www.revogear.com, but I was a little concerned by the fact that when 
I tried to go to the forums, download area, or wiki, I got a page 
that says this account has been suspended


Is this product still viable?  Or is there a better source for 
information?  It looks like it'd be fun to pick one up for one of the 
extra drives I have laying around.


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[slim] Re: NAS Device (the Kuro Box)

2006-06-04 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
one of the best investments I've ever made is the purchase six 
weeks ago of my $149 KuroBoxHG


This sounded very interesting, and I found where you can buy it at 
www.revogear.com, but I was a little concerned by the fact that when 
I tried to go to the forums, download area, or wiki, I got a page 
that says this account has been suspended


Is this product still viable?  Or is there a better source for 
information?  It looks like it'd be fun to pick one up for one of 
the extra drives I have laying around.


Sorry to reply to myself, but is there an 3 G SATA version or just ATA?

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[slim] Re: NAS Device

2006-06-04 Thread pkfox

thanks to you all, I'm more confused than ever now but I think the multi
disk route is the path I'll follow , I have an outside office to store
the server so noise isn't a consideration, once again thanks for time


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[slim] Re: SLIMP3 for sale...

2006-06-04 Thread twynne

Last chance on this today - auction ends 1am BST... and it's only £60 at
the moment!


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[slim] Re: Which plugins work with Qnap?

2006-06-04 Thread funkstar

Seineseeker Wrote: 
 Thanks Funkstar, wouldnt I be better off with a linkstation then, if I
 can get over the installation issues I would have control over it
 myself and into the future?
I guess it depends. I really couldn't be done with the hastle of
hacking a linkstation and if you have problems with it you are on your
own as far as warranty is concerned. No idea how well Linkstations work
as SlimServers, haven't bothered to read up on it.


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[slim] Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread ajmitchell

Hi,

I have got some rooms being rebuilt (eg kitchen/bathroom) where I may
not want to see the SB3 (yes I know this sounds crazy!) but rather run
from PC using ceiling speakers. Basically nothing can be seen in the
room.

My question is, is it wise to install behind a wall or shelf which is
very difficult to access? Are there some things (like a hard re-set)
that DO need physical line of sight; or can eveything be done from the
slimserver interface. 

I guess I am most worried when my system hangs and I need to re-boot
the SB3 or on upgrades where I have to hold the brightness key. 

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[slim] Re: SLIMP3 for sale...

2006-06-04 Thread funkstar

wasn't going to, but well, bugger it, i put a bid in :)


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[slim] Re: Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread ceejay

Personally, I really wouldn't do that if I were you. You've already
identified two situations - hard reboot and firmware upgrade - where
you might need to see it.  And, besides, isn't it nice to be able to
SEE what's playing?

If you really want blind ceiling speakers then you might be better off
dispensing with the SB altogether and running straight audio cable from
a multi-channel PC sound card...

Ceejay.


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[slim] Re: Sync between digital and analog units?

2006-06-04 Thread ajmitchell

Yes, I agree its a fundamental synching problem, not an output type
problem.

See my headache with the same issue
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20534

Switching to 11g from 11b helped me a bit. In my experience the SB2
seems to have less problems than Sb3 but this is subjective. 

Probably network signal is the key. If you run Network health and
performance from the front page of slimserver it will usefully map
each players issues!

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[slim] Re: NAS Device

2006-06-04 Thread funkstar

pkfox Wrote: 
 thanks to you all, I'm more confused than ever now but I think the multi
 disk route is the path I'll follow , I have an outside office to store
 the server so noise isn't a consideration, once again thanks for time
If you have somewhere to put a server without noise being an issue,
then i would go for a regular desktop and a bunch of drives in it. 

I had looked at a barebones Opteron system with a gig or so of RAM and
the slowest CPU i could find, 5x 3.5 to 3x 5.25 hard drive cage and a
5 port SATA RAID controller. Depending on drive size this could easily
be done for under £1000. And then you have a decent file server you
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[slim] Re: Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread funkstar

if you are having the rooms re-built then could you not get a small
cupboard built to house the SBs? that way if you need to get to them
you can quite easily.

Although personally i would rather build them into a wall so you could
still see the displays. Unless either room is really small and gets
really steamy, i can't see there would be a problem with them.


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[slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread rudholm

ceejay Wrote: 
 Well, at the top end: a 100Mbps LAN should give you about 50Mbps of
 usable throughput, so divide 50,000 by 256 to get 195 theoretical
 streams.
 

50Mbps?

I'm curious why you don't expect 100Mb/second from your 100Mb/second
Ethernet.


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[slim] Re: Help! SlimServer won't start

2006-06-04 Thread jmbirch

I'm having exactly then same problem...installed 6.2.2 and slimserver no
longer works (thank god for squeezenetwork).  

I'm running under xp home sp2.  Have tried scrubbing slimserver from
drives, registry and nothing works.  

Will try reinstalling 5.3.1 cos that's the previous download I had and
see if that helpsbut I'm not best pleased.

Alsoanyone figure out why live364 urls don't work anymore ?

Cheers, Justin


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[slim] Where did Keep Unswapped interval go in 6.2.2?

2006-06-04 Thread bashers

I can't find it in the performace tab.
Is it elsehwere now?
Ash


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[slim] Re: Trying to add radio stations in particular BBC

2006-06-04 Thread Paul

Thanks for the replies. I found an FAQ on the BBC website where they
clearly state that they only support their own player or Real. I think
it also had a pretty dud reason why. So, I emailed them asking politely
whay they do this and that they are missing out on a new and fast
growing community of people using SlimDevices, Roku etc. I also read
another posting about commercial stations want to keep people reading
their online adverts (or should that be Real's adverts) but this also
does seem to be a particulalrly valid reason as I would have to assume
that people listening to their on-air advertising is more important. I
think Real have just done an excellent sales job.

I was also out of luck with RTE (Ireland) who also use Real. Just
copying BBC I guess?


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[slim] Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread wimberrypie

I recently upgraded to 6.2.2 ... bad move, now I cant access my music
and the SB3 keeps switching off ! ... how do I get back to older
working versions of the software, my system used to run like
clockwork ...


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Re: [slim] Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Herger

I recently upgraded to 6.2.2 ... bad move, now I cant access my music
and the SB3 keeps switching off ! ... how do I get back to older
working versions of the software, my system used to run like
clockwork ...


Why go back if you even don't know the problem? Is the server running? Is  
ony the SB disconnecting? What's wrong?


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[slim] Re: Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread wimberrypie

I now only get your player cannot be found in the www interface ...the
whole setup has been working perfectly for months, until the dreaded
upgrade !! ARH ..


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Re: [slim] Re: Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Herger

I now only get your player cannot be found in the www interface ...the
whole setup has been working perfectly for months, until the dreaded
upgrade !! ARH ..


Ok, let's try a factory reset: unplug your SB3 (wireless?), press and hold  
ADD on the remote while plugging the device in again. You'll have to  
reconfigure the box. Does this help?


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[slim] mp3 files corrupted?

2006-06-04 Thread rickoleum

Before I even got my SB3, I had ripped a bunch of files to mp3 in
itunes.  (I know there are better formats/better ripping progams, but
that's what I did.)

The songs played fine on itunes.  

I moved them to the computer that I am using for the SB server and
initially they played fine on sb3.  Now all of a sudden they won't play
at all on itunes or on sb3. (they cause the sb3 to crash.)

When I try to play them in windows media player (WMP), I get a message
saying 

the file you are attempting to play has an extension that does not
match the file format.  Playing the file may result in unexpected
behavior.

Do you want the Player to play the file?

When I click yes on that WMP can't play the file because WMP may not
support the file type or support the codec that was used to compress
the file.  

Any ideas?  (other than rerip the cd's in a better format . . . )

Thanks.

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[slim] Progress Bar not working properly!

2006-06-04 Thread Xhorder

Ok, this is really weird:

I have my SB2 display set to show a progess bar with elapsed time. 
However, it's acting very strange.  

For most of each song, it stays blank with an elapsed time of 00:00.
Then for the last part of the song, it will come on and get updated at
approximately 0:40 remaining and then at 0:10 remaining.

Any idea what's going on here???  I think something's fundamentally
wrong, but what debugging should I turn on? I haven't been able to get
anything useful, and following always shows up at the top of log.txt

2006-06-04 11:00:36.2240 Parse error on line 36:EN  
2006-06-04 11:00:36.4182 Parse error on line 36:EN  

Also, slimserver is not showing up in the Process Table, where it
always has before (unless I'm going crazy...)

I've stopped and started slimserver a couple times to no effect.

The only things I've changed recently was to clear my library and
rescan a few times, and add Scanner plugin (which I have since
removed)

HELP!

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Re: [slim] Progress Bar not working properly!

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Herger

For most of each song, it stays blank with an elapsed time of 00:00.
Then for the last part of the song, it will come on and get updated at
approximately 0:40 remaining and then at 0:10 remaining.


What are your screensaver settings? And which plugins have you installed?


2006-06-04 11:00:36.2240 Parse error on line 36:EN  
2006-06-04 11:00:36.4182 Parse error on line 36:EN  


I think having seen this with some plugin (don't know which one right  
now). Start slimserver using the -d_plugins parameter.



Also, slimserver is not showing up in the Process Table, where it
always has before (unless I'm going crazy...)


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[slim] Re: Which plugins work with Qnap?

2006-06-04 Thread Seineseeker

ultra238a Wrote: 
 You can put any plugins you want on our version of the Qnap TS-101. All
 you need to do is request the plugin and we will make a version that
 just needs to be droped in to the updates folder.
 
 We have done things this way so it is easy to install plugins for
 anybody and so that we can test them to make sure that they don't mess
 up anything when installed.
 
 We have nothing to hide by doing things this way, we just want to make
 it as simple and as safe as possible for everybody
 
 Regards

Fair enough, when I get round to buying a Qnap I'll be requesting the
TMS plugin?

But what about the future, how long are you going to support
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[slim] Re: Which plugins work with Qnap?

2006-06-04 Thread ultra238a

Hi,

We are the UK distributor for Squeezebox so we will support the TS-101
for as long as the product is viable I guess.

Regards

Seineseeker Wrote: 
 Fair enough, when I get round to buying a Qnap I'll be requesting the
 TMS plugin?
 
 But what about the future, how long are you going to support
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[slim] Re: Progress Bar not working properly!

2006-06-04 Thread lanierb

My progress bar does the same thing since I updated to 6.2.2, and I have
never used any plugins.

Lanier


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[slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread funkstar

error correction and protocol overhead.

You will *never* get 100mbit of through put on a 100mbit network. The
speed quoted is the wire speed as opposed to the data transfer speed.

Gigabit gets round this to some degree by using jumbo frames. Basically
this means that your data to overhead ratio is better as each frame
being sent contains more data.


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Re: [slim] Re: Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread Ken
Same problem here. I tried running the server from the command line and 
found that it was dying while trying to read my iTunes library. I 
removed iTunes, reinstalled the server from scratch and things began to 
work properly. I don't know what about iTunes made it wonky but this 
seems to have solved my problem.


wimberrypie wrote:

I now only get your player cannot be found in the www interface ...the
whole setup has been working perfectly for months, until the dreaded
upgrade !! ARH ..


  


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[slim] Re: Trying to add radio stations in particular BBC

2006-06-04 Thread funkstar

the BBC went with Real years ago when there wasn't nearly the same
interest in internet radio. There also wasn't the same bandwidth
available or types of streaming formats available.

Since then WMA has become a real alternative to Real (sorry) at the
same data rates, MP3 would requite a higher data rate and is not
adaptive (i.e. they drop down to a lower quality if your connection is
slow/busy) like the other two are. At the time RealAudio was probably
the best choice out there.

I guess in the future they could move to another format, but this would
mean introducing additional servers to support the streams and encoding
etc. The WMA streams for the digital chanels are out sourced to a third
party, the BBC does not stream them to you itself.

I wouldn't be surprised if the BBC does move to a more open system
eventually.


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Re: [slim] Re: Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Herger
Same problem here. I tried running the server from the command line and  
found that it was dying while trying to read my iTunes library. I


Clearly a different problem: wimberrypie's server does start, but does not  
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Re: [slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread Pat Farrell
rudholm wrote:
 ceejay Wrote: 
 
Well, at the top end: a 100Mbps LAN should give you about 50Mbps of
usable throughput, so divide 50,000 by 256 to get 195 theoretical
streams.
 
 50Mbps?
 
 I'm curious why you don't expect 100Mb/second from your 100Mb/second
 Ethernet.

Because Ethernet uses Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision
Avoidance to control traffic. No Ethernet can deliver its rated
speed, even getting 50% of its rated speed is hard if not impossible if
there is any sharing of the network.

And then you have to add overhead, addressing, error correcting, ack/nak
messages, etc.

For a practical example for Slim users, a WiFi 'b' network is
rated as 11 megabits/second but it rarely can actually
delivery uncompressed audio. This is a problem for SB1 users,
since the SB1 only does WiFi B, and can't do Flac on the fly

The RedBook specifies that stereo music is to be recorded in 16-bit PCM
sampled at 44.1 kHz. A little arithmetic shows that the data stream of
CD audio must be at least:

Data Rate   = X
= 16 bits * 2 channels * 44.1kHz
= 16 * 2 * 44100
= 1,411,200 bits/second
= 176,400 bytes/second
= 172 Kbytes/second

So while Red Book (or uncompressed audio) is only 1.4 mb/s and that
is only 12% or so of a WiFi b link speed, you can't get it.

Assuming that you can get 10% of the rated speed is probably good
engineering.


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Re: [slim] Re: Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread Ken

Right. I missed the 'player can't be found' part :).

Michael Herger wrote:
Same problem here. I tried running the server from the command line 
and found that it was dying while trying to read my iTunes library. I


Clearly a different problem: wimberrypie's server does start, but does 
not recognize the players. Your server does not start.


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[slim] Re: Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread JJZolx

ajmitchell Wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 I have got some rooms being rebuilt (eg kitchen/bathroom) where I may
 not want to see the SB3 (yes I know this sounds crazy!) but rather run
 from PC using ceiling speakers. Basically nothing can be seen in the
 room.
 
 My question is, is it wise to install behind a wall or shelf which is
 very difficult to access? Are there some things (like a hard re-set)
 that DO need physical line of sight; or can eveything be done from the
 slimserver interface. 
 
 I guess I am most worried when my system hangs and I need to re-boot
 the SB3 or on upgrades where I have to hold the brightness key.
I wouldn't do it.  I've had to unplug/plug in my SBs on a couple of
occasions to get them back among the living.

If you don't want to be able to see the SB, then obviously you plan on
controlling the music in some other way, such as over the network.  If
that were the case I'd consider some other type of source, such as a PC
with multiple soundcards located in a central wiring closet, with long
audio runs to the bedrooms, more in line with a typical whole-house
audio setup.  These setups have been discussed here before, so you
might want to do a search.


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[slim] Re: Ive made a mistake !

2006-06-04 Thread gutted

I don't use SB3 (so my apologies if this isn't actually relevant) but is
it anything to do with wireless security?

Like - have Slim Devices introduced new wireless security into the
latest build that may need to be reconfigured before your player can be
seen?  Perhaps a previous security setting has been over-written by the
upgrade?  WPA, WEP etc?

I'm assuming you're on wireless, so may be wrong on that count too :)


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[slim] Re: Progress Bar not working properly!

2006-06-04 Thread Xhorder

mherger Wrote: 
  For most of each song, it stays blank with an elapsed time of 00:00.
  Then for the last part of the song, it will come on and get updated
 at
  approximately 0:40 remaining and then at 0:10 remaining.
 
 What are your screensaver settings? And which plugins have you
 installed?
 
  2006-06-04 11:00:36.2240 Parse error on line 36:EN  
  2006-06-04 11:00:36.4182 Parse error on line 36:EN  
 
 I think having seen this with some plugin (don't know which one right 
 
 now). Start slimserver using the -d_plugins parameter.
 
  Also, slimserver is not showing up in the Process Table, where it
  always has before (unless I'm going crazy...)
 
 Now this would relly be weird. ps ax?
 
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My screensaver is SuperDateTime showing weather and forcasts, but I
have it disabled when music is playing.

I have a bunch of plugins.  Off the top of my head:

Last.FM
Sirius 
SuperDateTime
Lyrics
Tetris
AlienBBC
IR-Blaster
Random Mix

I tired d_plugins and it didn't provide much useful info as far as I
could see.  Mostly LastFM submission stuff..

I've attached the output of ps ax.  Something shows up there. But
still nothing shows up in KDE System Guard, which is what I usually
use...


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Re: [slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread Jacob Potter

On 6/4/06, Pat Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Because Ethernet uses Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision
Avoidance to control traffic. No Ethernet can deliver its rated
speed, even getting 50% of its rated speed is hard if not impossible if
there is any sharing of the network.

And then you have to add overhead, addressing, error correcting, ack/nak
messages, etc.


Only hubbed Ethernet uses CSMA/CD; switched is full-duplex. I've
benchmarked over 95 Mbps using generic consumer cards and switches,
although that was card-to-card (netperf), not disk-to-disk. It's not
that hard.

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[slim] Incorrect time?

2006-06-04 Thread ezkcdude

I just looked at my SB3, which is connected to SqueezeNetwork. It's
displaying the time as 11:51, and it is actually 12:35 here. Anybody
have a clue? I could understand 1 full hour ahead or behind, but ~45
minutes seems weird.


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[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?

2006-06-04 Thread NWP

It seems as if some of the changes people are mentioning would be
changes to Slimserver, not upgrades to the Squeezebox.  

If you have suggestions on Slimserver, you can go to
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ and make a feature request.


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[slim] Re: SLIMP3 for sale...

2006-06-04 Thread twynne

Thanks!  :-)  And it looks like you're winning!!

5 hours to go... good luck!!


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[slim] Re: Restart Scanning Playlist with Remote

2006-06-04 Thread radish

I tried, but I couldn't find anything that works. I'm guessing that this
pluging (Rescan) wasn't really designed for custom IR mappings - but I
may be wrong. Hopefully someone with more experience can help out.


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[slim] Re: Empty Library

2006-06-04 Thread arturo

JJZolx Wrote: 
 Arturo, I suspect your issue is something different.  The bug we're
 talking about is fairly uncommon.  Try posting in the Beginners forum
 and I'm sure you'll get some good suggestions on how to begin
 troubleshooting your problem.

Ok, I've started a thread there as well. I still wonder if my problem
is the same as this thread though. So I started using the debugger to
log the scanning process. I see that SS finds the album directory, sees
22 items inside it (22 songs), then descends into the directory and
decides that each index is not a list type and skips it. For example,
here it is looking at song #16:
2006-06-04 10:50:48.8902 index: 16
2006-06-04 10:50:48.8902 itempath: and
file:///E:/Muzak/Wire/Pink%20Flag made 
2006-06-04 10:50:48.8903 isList() == 0
2006-06-04 10:50:48.8903 not a list: 
2006-06-04 10:50:48.8904 Skipping unknown type: 
So, why didn't it recognize the WMA file as a known type?


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[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?

2006-06-04 Thread ezkcdude

The idea of an audiophile SB to me is a non-starter. Why would an
audiophile want a SB w/an integrated amplifier? Audiophiles shun
integrated amplifiers, unless they are the ones that cost several
thousand dollars. Adding a higher-end DAC to the SB also would be
difficult, due to size constraints. Have you guys looked at
audiophile-worthy DAC's? They are large, mainly due to gigantic (and
probably unecessary) power supplies, transformer I/V stages, and
sometimes tubes. Finally, and I've said this before in another thread,
most of audiophilia is about constantly tweaking and changing your
system. An all-in-one audiophile SB is a complete oxymoron IMHO. So,
basically, true audiophile won't buy it, and those who are not
audiophiles won't need it. I'm really not sure what the market for a
$1000 SB would be. Can anyone tell me?


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[slim] Re: Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread Pale Blue Ego

It's easy enough to hide the SBs and still allow access.  Stick them in
a cupboard, or build a little access plate into the wall.


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Re: [slim] Re: Empty Library

2006-06-04 Thread Gregory Hamilton
Did you disable the automatic DRM in Windows Media Player?On 6/4/06, arturo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:JJZolx Wrote: Arturo, I suspect your issue is something different.The bug we're
 talking about is fairly uncommon.Try posting in the Beginners forum and I'm sure you'll get some good suggestions on how to begin troubleshooting your problem.Ok, I've started a thread there as well. I still wonder if my problem
is the same as this thread though. So I started using the debugger tolog the scanning process. I see that SS finds the album directory, sees22 items inside it (22 songs), then descends into the directory and
decides that each index is not a list type and skips it. For example,here it is looking at song #16:2006-06-04 10:50:48.8902 index: 162006-06-04 10:50:48.8902 itempath: and
file:///E:/Muzak/Wire/Pink%20Flag made2006-06-04 10:50:48.8903 isList() == 02006-06-04 10:50:48.8903 not a list:2006-06-04 10:50:48.8904 Skipping unknown type:So, why didn't it recognize the WMA file as a known type?
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[slim] Re: IE7 and Fishbone

2006-06-04 Thread bigmdime

Unfortunately i  just upgraded to 6.3 and still no luck.


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Re: [slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread Pat Farrell
radish wrote:
 pfarrell Wrote: 
 - again the myth that you can't run pcm to an sb1 is just that - a myth.
 I was doing it for a long time before I finally replaced my sb1 with a
 later model. Sure there was the odd glitch because that buffer was so
 small but in general it worked fine.

My experience is different. I found PCM over wireless to my SB1 to be
unlistenable, hence unusable.

The fix was easy, drag an Ethernet cable.


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[slim] Re: Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread netim3

I do this today. I have ceiling speakers in my bathrooms, but the SBs
and room amps are in a cupboard outside the bathroom. I can get to them
to update firmware when necessary (only had to do it once when upgrading
to SlimServer 6.5). I prefer this approach to running a PC with multiple
cound cards etc because I like other functionality such as synching
players together, and because I like the audio quality I get.

I use Telcanto on a wifi pocket PC to control all the rooms.


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[slim] Re: Empty Library

2006-06-04 Thread arturo

Gregory Hamilton Wrote: 
 Did you disable the automatic DRM in Windows Media Player?
 
 On 6/4/06, arturo arturo.28w3qz1149444901 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
 forums.slimdevices.com
 wrote:
 
  

Nope! That indeed was the problem. Thanks Gregory!
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[slim] Re: Which plugins work with Qnap?

2006-06-04 Thread michaelch

Do either of these work on a qnap.  The music magic plug in shows in
server settings= plug ins. However, despite my library being music
magic activated nothing works on qnap. Moodlogic does not appear at
all.
Is there any way of activating either or both of these plugins?


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Re: [slim] Re: Progress Bar not working properly!

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Herger

My screensaver is SuperDateTime showing weather and forcasts, but I
have it disabled when music is playing.


Please disable all third party plugins and _restart_ your server with the  
d_plugins parameter. Still the same behaviour?



I tired d_plugins and it didn't provide much useful info as far as I
could see.  Mostly LastFM submission stuff..


You'd have to _start_ the server with this parameter to see the debugging  
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[slim] Re: Progress Bar not working properly!

2006-06-04 Thread Xhorder

mherger Wrote: 
  My screensaver is SuperDateTime showing weather and forcasts, but I
  have it disabled when music is playing.
 
 Please disable all third party plugins and _restart_ your server with
 the  
 d_plugins parameter. Still the same behaviour?
 
  I tired d_plugins and it didn't provide much useful info as far as I
  could see.  Mostly LastFM submission stuff..
 
 You'd have to _start_ the server with this parameter to see the
 debugging  
 messages for plugins load. But I guess your problem lies elsewhere.
 
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OK, I stopped slimserver and renamed the Plugins directory.  Will that
disable all plugins? Hopefully it will.

I then started slimserver using the -d_plugins switch, and the same
behaviour with the progress bar occurs.  Here is the log output:

2006-06-04 17:57:33.9198 BROWSE_MUSIC does not exist. creating...
2006-06-04 17:57:33.9207 Registering screensaver Now Playing (Jump back
on wake.)
2006-06-04 17:57:33.9209 Registering screensaver None
2006-06-04 17:57:36.4162 Mode OFF.superdatetime not found, using
default
...
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[slim] Re: Which plugins work with Qnap?

2006-06-04 Thread ultra238a

They aren't included as standard. If you want them request them at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will get them created and tested for you
so you can download them and drop them in the updates folder in the
Public share to install them.

Do not try and install the standard format plug-in's as they won't
work.

Regards

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 Do either of these work on a qnap.  The music magic plug in shows in
 server settings= plug ins. However, despite my library being music
 magic activated nothing works on qnap. Moodlogic does not appear at
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[slim] I built an in-wall cabinet for my Squeezebox

2006-06-04 Thread Kenr

Well our master bathroom remodel is finally coming to a conclusion, more
then 4 months in the making.  It has a floor to ceiling steam shower,
whirlpool tub and mood lighting so I needed to add another Squeezebox
to play our tunes.   

Here are some pictures of the squeezebox cabinet.  It fits inside the
wall and has room for 3 remotes.  I have a hardwired SB3, I didn't want
to mess with wireless issues.  The rest of the systems consists of a
single dual tweeter dual voice coil Boston Acoustics DSI465T2.  It's a
nice sounding speaker that can play both channels from a single
speaker.  I decided to go with this because mounting two speakers
didn't make sense in the bath.  The system is powered by an AudioSource
Amp200, 80 watts per channel probably overkill.  I choose it because it
has an auto on feature when it detects and input signal.  Its mounted
on top of the cabinet in the last picture.

The room isn't finished, still needs painting and a long list of odds
and ends.
Thanks
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[slim] Re: Stealth (hidden) Installation Possible? - ie without physical access to the SB3

2006-06-04 Thread Kenr

Here is an idea http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24475


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[slim] Re: Empty Library

2006-06-04 Thread hirsp1

Setup:

Slimserver 6.2.2 on Ubuntu Breezy, music on Linkstation drive.
Linkstation drive is mounted and can be seen (I can browse music
folders, but rescanning doesn't find anything)

Everything seemed to be working just fine in 6.2.1.  Decided to
upgrade to 6.2.2.

I've started and stopped the slimserver to no avail.  It still won't
find the music.  I've also rebooted the machine, the Linkstation,
nothing.  Any reasons why this might happen?

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[slim] Re: I built an in-wall cabinet for my Squeezebox

2006-06-04 Thread Ben Diss

Thats sweet!  Thanks for sharing.

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[slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread rudholm

With 802.11b or g, yeah, I'd be happy with 50% of advertised bitrates,
but the topic at hand is 100Base-TX (i.e. wired) Ethernet.

Even with the preamble byte, the SFD byte, the source and destination
MAC addresses, the frame type, and the checksum, you're still only
talking about about 20 bytes of overhead per frame, which isn't much
even with 100Base-TX's MTU size of 1500 (i.e. not the jumbo frames
that Gb Ethernet often uses).

None of that could possibly account for a 1:2 ratio between user data
and Layer 1 data.

And my experience bears this out.  I normally see about 10.5 megabytes
per second transfer rates on 100Base-TX links, which is quite close to
100 megabits per second.

So my question to ceejay stands --I'm curious why he expects only 50
megabits per second from 100Base-TX.


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[slim] Re: Empty Library

2006-06-04 Thread hirsp1

hirsp1 Wrote: 
 Setup:
 
 Slimserver 6.2.2 on Ubuntu Breezy, music on Linkstation drive.
 Linkstation drive is mounted and can be seen (I can browse music
 folders, but rescanning doesn't find anything)
 
 Everything seemed to be working just fine in 6.2.1.  Decided to
 upgrade to 6.2.2.
 
 I've started and stopped the slimserver to no avail.  It still won't
 find the music.  I've also rebooted the machine, the Linkstation,
 nothing.  Any reasons why this might happen?
 

I just discovered if I go to Browse Music Folders, add everything in
the folder to a playlist, all of the sudden, all of the music is
found.  If I rescan, it's lost again.


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[slim] Re: How many streams at the same time ?

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Lanctot

Not to beat up on poor ceejay, but I tested this once for a review of a
router:

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17528d=1107717661

See page 8.  I found the 100 Mbps connection averaged 82.17 Mbps.  
Not quite 100 Mbps, but not 50 either.

BTW that RacoonWorks Speed Test is a pretty cool little free program:
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/speedtest.html  You can test server -
client on your internal network, wired or wireless, or between a web
page and a local PC.


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[slim] Default skin volume control....

2006-06-04 Thread GeeZa

...goes up to 11. I've just noticed this, was it deliberate? :-) I can
just imagine the marketing Our volume goes up to 11, that's one louder
than our competitors.

Great stuff.


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[slim] Re: slimserver 6.2.2 on windows xp fails to start as a service

2006-06-04 Thread EnochLight

Almost a month and no reponse... did you ever get this sorted?  I
recently reformatted and can't get 6.2.2 to start either.  Curious as
to what you did to get yours going?


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