Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread slate

All stored away in small fruit boxes in the basement.
I only have about 30 standing in the stereorack for decorative purposes
ie hiding the cables and power block.

My old Luxman D-107u player is moved to my home office haven't used
it for years


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread socistep

EdPell;561136 Wrote: 
> Just out of curiosity. 
> 
> Now that you have that huge number of CDs ripped to some magnetic
> device, what have you done with them?
> 
> I suppose they're put away somewhere - what have you stored them in? Do
> you often have to access them for one reason or another such as to load
> your vehicle's CD player?
> 
> Thanks
> EdP

When I moved in with my girlfriend all my cd's went in a box and have
stayed there, new music I buy stays in my office/den room and a couple
of times a year they make the trip up to the loft to join the others. I
still buy cd's but a lot of them never actually get played. some go in
the car but I tend to use mp3's on a SD card there most of the time


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread SuperQ

It all gets loaded onto my server and then after a month of being
annoying on the desk put in a storage bin in the closet.

I don't drive much, but I still have my empeg. :)


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread aubuti

SuperQ;561160 Wrote: 
> It all gets loaded onto my server and then after a month of being
> annoying on the desk put in a storage bin in the closet.
That sounds just like my system. My storage bins are basic Rubbermaid
bins with lids that hold about 150 CDs each, just deep enough to stand
the CDs on edge with their spines showing, so it's easy to grab a
particular CD if I never need to.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread Daverz

Unfortunately, right now they are all over the place, some in storage
boxes, some in those dowel type racks, some stacked here and there, and
some shucked of their jewel boxes and stored in large CD binders, the
kind with plastic sleeves for CDs on both sides of a "page" ("Case it"
is the brand, they are 304 CD capacity).  I store everything from the
jewel boxes, including booklets and tray papers, in the binders, so
they only hold about half the capacity of CDs.  

The plan is to store everything currently in a jewel box in these
binders, with everything else stored in my remaining CD racks.  That's
a lot of jewel box shucking to do, but when I'm done I think that about
3000 CDs will be able to fit in one large, sturdy bookcase.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread agillis

I don't need my CDs for my car becasue I have a VortexBox in my car as
well as my home. I got rid of the cases and have my CDs stored on
spindles to save space.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread eq72521

Nicely organized on the 1000 CD shelf I bought before I started
seriously digitizing everything.  However, that shelf has been demoted
to my office, and it's boxed in by a bunch of stuff I need to divest. 
However, when I relocated out of state for a couple years from
2006-2008, the CDs and the shelf stayed in storage near home.  I'd
probably stop buying them altogether if FLAC was offered as a
purchasable option.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-11 Thread pski

They are downstairs in the pool room, arranged alphabetically, just like
before I could play them anywhere/anytime.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread elstensoftware

Even though I don't actually use CDs to listen to, I still need them to
rip from because, in most cases, I prefer to store music in higher
quality using flac.

This means I need to have my stack of CDs and their cases accessible to
add to, but not retrieve from. Other computer scientists may also be
mulling over efficient storage furniture :D Currently the CDs are piled
on top of each other.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread funkstar

All mine are in 18l Really Useful Boxes in my self storage locker along
with a ton of Lego and all my boxed up DVDs. If I had the space, I
would line a room with shelves and have them all in there alone with
the shelves of books I've accumulated over the years :)


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread spile

Still on my CD racks but in vertical stacks pushed to the back in order
to take up less room.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread carib

Lining up cd cases on a shelf looks nice but they get overbearing when
they're just too many of them.  SO, I decided to go with this:

http://www.amazon.com/Ideastream-CD-Storage-Box-SNS01521/dp/B00062UW5A

but without the cases.  Each CD goes in a plastic lined paper sleeve:

http://www.amazon.com/100-Paper-Sleeves-Window-Flap/dp/B0019X20R8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1278936371&sr=8-1

OUT WITH AL THE JEWELBOXES!!! Hurray.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread EdPell

Carib ...

I kinda like that solution.
Did the liner notes fit in the sleeves along with the CD? Or did you
chuck those along with the jewel cases.

EdP


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread copperstate

All new cd purchases get ripped and then stored in couple of wall-height
set of shelves shared by my cds, dvds and books.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread garym

use "jewel sleeves" and related file cabinet to store disc, front, and
back inserts, but dump the jewel case. I can store about 1,000 CDs in a
3' x 3' cabinet.
http://jewelsleeve.com/


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread carib

EdPell;561262 Wrote: 
> Carib ...
> 
> I kinda like that solution.
> Did the liner notes fit in the sleeves along with the CD? Or did you
> chuck those along with the jewel cases.
> 
> EdP

You can trim the front cover art and fit it in the envelope with the CD
but anything else (ie, booklets) goes right besides each CD in the box. 
Works for me.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread garym

garym;561302 Wrote: 
> use "jewel sleeves" and related file cabinet to store disc, front, and
> back inserts, but dump the jewel case. I can store about 1,000 CDs in a
> 3' x 3' cabinet.
> http://jewelsleeve.com/

Note that this approach has enough room in the separate jewel sleeve
compartments for front,back inserts, liner note inserts, and the disc.
And the size is such that one does not need to do any trimming of the
inserts. The whole thing is "purpose designed" for storing everything
EXCEPT the jewelcase.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread carib

garym;561302 Wrote: 
> use "jewel sleeves" and related file cabinet to store disc, front, and
> back inserts, but dump the jewel case. I can store about 1,000 CDs in a
> 3' x 3' cabinet.
> http://jewelsleeve.com/

This looks really nice too.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread iPhone

Nice solutions everybody!

My cousin uses the wall unit bookshelves like Staples and Office Depot
carry. They tend to hold CDs two deep and two high on each shelf, there
are 6 or 7 shelves in each unit and a boatload of CDs fit in each row
times 4 per shelf. I was using shelves from floor to ceiling along the
long wall of my listening room until my collection got to big and thank
the stars Slim Devices came along.

My CDs are now in these nice wooden boxes that Ericsson Mobitex
transceivers are shipped in. Each box holds 540 CDs. The boxes are
labeled with an inventory list of what CDs are in them and stacked on
chrome wire shelving in the basement storage room. The original boxes
are all alphabetical, but once they were boxed and sealed, I now just
fill up a box and label it with its inventory.

I have tried several different things. The Rubbermaid tubs work well.
The are stackable and have a snap shut lid as well as handles on the
side. The wooden boxes just hold so many more CDs and were free.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-12 Thread EdPell

I came across JewelSleeves during my searches for CD storage devices. A
perfect sleeve solution, but a bit costly; it'll cost $480 to sleeve
1000 CDs. 

That kind of price begins to make Can-Am's MC2D14 cabinet look pretty
good, although shipping a steel cabinet can get expensive. It's $100 to
ship to my city and I'm only 320 miles from the factory!

http://tinyurl.com/3xysofr

EdP


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread hunta

EdPell;561136 Wrote: 
> Just out of curiosity. 
> 
> Now that you have that huge number of CDs ripped to some magnetic
> device, what have you done with them?
> EdP


Good point. Do you know, I have absolutely no idea!


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread JonWill

Attached picture explains two things - (i) why my CDs are now neatly
alphabeticised on shelves in a cupboar out of sight and (ii) why I
finally took the plunge and got a Squeezebox set up.

Haven't looked back since!


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread EdPell

Now THAT'S funny!
Wise of you to get the camera.

Makes me so sad that I never had kids.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread JonWill

Funny now ... took a while to get the Cds back into orer.  And this was
at least their fourth, and by far and away most successful, assault on
cataloguing system!


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread pski

1 x 6 shelving and 1/4 plywood plus stainless steel wood screws:


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread maggior

I did something similar to pski but made them as wall units out of MDF. 
I'll have to post a picture.  

Sadly, I've filled the 3 of them that I built 7 years ago.  With 3 kids
now, I don't have the time to build another unit.  I may be taking the
"fill a rubbermaid tub with some discs" route.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-13 Thread maggior

JonWill;561491 Wrote: 
> Attached picture explains two things - (i) why my CDs are now neatly
> alphabeticised on shelves in a cupboar out of sight and (ii) why I
> finally took the plunge and got a Squeezebox set up.
> 
> Haven't looked back since!

Oh my!!! :-)

I might have had a heart attack if my kids did that.  I guess I should
thank my wife for forbidding the CD collection from being kept upstairs
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread iPhone

Nice solution Rich! Time to put up two bookends on the top shelf so the
whole top row can be a long shelf and the Box Sets go into a closet
like mine have. Wish all the new Box Sets would take a page from the
Beatles and come out in FLAC on a USB Drive. No ripping required and
hardly any space taken up!


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread ModelCitizen

I dislike clutter and won't fill up my living space with useless
objects. All but a few of my CDs went to a second hand CD shop.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread Phil Leigh

ModelCitizen;561699 Wrote: 
> I dislike clutter and won't fill up my living space with useless
> objects. All but a few of my CDs went to a second hand CD shop.

ahem...


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread EdPell

Phil Leigh;561707 Wrote: 
> ahem...

hmmm ... I wonder what he meant by that ...


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread garym

EdPell;561722 Wrote: 
> hmmm ... I wonder what he meant by that ...

No sure, but maybe in some countries, it would be illegal to have the
digital version of the music without owning the CD itself. Not sure


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread aubuti

and in some countries not illegal per se, but constituting a civil
offense of copyright infringement


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread slate

which is not very model citizen


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread Phil Leigh

garym;561723 Wrote: 
> No sure, but maybe in some countries, it would be illegal to have the
> digital version of the music without owning the CD itself. Not sure

er yes - I'm pretty sure its illegal in all countries. In the UK it's
technically illegal to rip the CD as that subverts mechanical copyright
- although no-one has been prosecuted for doing this and almost
certainly never will. This is a tacit admission of the correctness of
"fair use" rulings you have enjoyed in the US.

It's absolutely illegal to rip a cd then sell the CD and keep the rip -
same as it ever was to buy a vinyl album or CD, copy it to tape or
whatever and then return the vinyl or CD to the shop or sell it on
second-hand...

This is why I keep my CD's in the garage.

This is the whole problem with the antiquated mechnical copyright laws.
Basically you are buying a licence to enjoy the music on the physical
format you bought - and only that. Absolutely nothing more.

Digital downloads supersede this for obvious reasons - there is no
physical medium to be locked to. Unfortunately, you have to actually
buy a download to benefit from this freedom - because it is THAT
transaction that gives you the legal right to replay the music from any
physical transport mechanism at your disposal. There is no transfer or
grandfathering of rights, so you can't claim (for example):

"Well I had the CD, ripped it, sold the CD but it's ok because I could
have downloaded the track." I'm afraid that simply won't hold up in any
European Court.

I'm not wishing to put a downer on anything/anyone. I'm just think
people need to be aware...


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread maggior

iPhone;561682 Wrote: 
> Nice solution Rich! Time to put up two bookends on the top shelf so the
> whole top row can be a long shelf and the Box Sets go into a closet
> like mine have. Wish all the new Box Sets would take a page from the
> Beatles and come out in FLAC on a USB Drive. No ripping required and
> hardly any space taken up!

Thanks iPhone.  It took me 5 full days to build those.  It was a lot of
planning, sawing, drilling, sanding, priming, painting, and assembly. 
It is a nice solution, but definitely a time consuming one.

I just recently ran out of space, so I hadn't really put a lot of
thought into what to do.  Obviously some will have to go elsewhere, but
which ones?  I like your idea of putting boxsets elsewhere.  They are
already separated from the artist's location in the shelves, so what
difference does it make if they find themselves in a closet.  The top
row would take a good amount of time to fill up.

Just moving the Miles Davis boxes will make a big difference :-).  For
astute viewers, you will notice 3 of them.  One is the original
defective set with glue problems, the next one is a good replacement
set with a damaged outer box, and the last one is a replacement outer
box.  At least they got it right eventually.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-14 Thread iPhone

maggior;561741 Wrote: 
> 
> Just moving the Miles Davis boxes will make a big difference :-).  For
> astute viewers, you will notice 3 of them.  One is the original
> defective set with glue problems, the next one is a good replacement
> set with a damaged outer box, and the last one is a replacement outer
> box.  At least they got it right eventually.

Thanks for making that clarification, I am looking at getting the Miles
Davis box set and thought the one I'm looking at might be a fraud as
there is only one box and I saw you had three making me think the box
set spanned 3 boxes.

On reflection, I do now remember the glue story but some how didn't put
it together or was thinking the defects went back.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread maggior

iPhone;561784 Wrote: 
> Thanks for making that clarification, I am looking at getting the Miles
> Davis box set and thought the one I'm looking at might be a fraud as
> there is only one box and I saw you had three making me think the box
> set spanned 3 boxes.
> 
> On reflection, I do now remember the glue story but some how didn't put
> it together or was thinking the defects went back.

No problem.  If you are buying the set used, be sure to ask the seller
if it is a set that had/has glue problems.  I'm sure there are plenty
of people who received a replacement set and are selling their original
set.

I found that I was able to clean the glue off successfully, but it took
an hour of my time.  71 discs are a lot of discs to check and clean.  I
was able to get a clean rip on them all.  Point being that even if the
set is from the original problematic run, if may be fine/salvagable.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread Sakkerju

All my popular music CD's are ripped to .FLAC with EAC Exact Audio Copy,
no MP3. CD's are all stored in a cardboard box on the attic. 

My classical music CD's are still played with my CD player. 
I have no classical music ripped...

For some reason this way suits me fine.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread youngml2009

JonWill;561491 Wrote: 
> Attached picture explains two things - (i) why my CDs are now neatly
> alphabeticised on shelves in a cupboar out of sight and (ii) why I
> finally took the plunge and got a Squeezebox set up.
> 
> Haven't looked back since!

Awesome picture!  That is the best advertisement for Squeezebox I have
ever seen.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread Zoltan

I noticed someone mentioned the JewelSleeve approach earlier.  

I used something similar from www.jazzloft.com with great success.

I'm pretty sure I looked into JewelSleeve at the time and am guessing
it was the cost that decided it.  The sleeves from Jazz Loft are 15
cents, or 7.50 USD for 50, whereas they are 24 USD from JewelSleeve.  I
don't know if there is any technical difference between them but the
Jazz Loft ones are good enough for me.

BTW, the sleeves don't look like much in their unfilled form but once
the CD and inserts are in they seem a bit more substantial - it becomes
a bit like a mini gatefold LP.  The main disadvantage of them is that
you can't easily read the spine.  This isn't much of a problem for me
as I have enough CDs that are in non-standard boxes etc., interspersed
with the sleeved ones, that I can quickly get to the right ballpark if
I need to (which is rare in any case these days).


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread carib

Zoltan;561941 Wrote: 
> I noticed someone mentioned the JewelSleeve approach earlier.  
> 
> I used something similar from www.jazzloft.com with great success.
> 
> I'm pretty sure I looked into JewelSleeve at the time and am guessing
> it was the cost that decided it.  The sleeves from Jazz Loft are 15
> cents, or 7.50 USD for 50, whereas they are 24 USD from JewelSleeve.  I
> don't know if there is any technical difference between them but the
> Jazz Loft ones are good enough for me.
> 
> BTW, the sleeves don't look like much in their unfilled form but once
> the CD and inserts are in they seem a bit more substantial - it becomes
> a bit like a mini gatefold LP.  The main disadvantage of them is that
> you can't easily read the spine.  This isn't much of a problem for me
> as I have enough CDs that are in non-standard boxes etc., interspersed
> with the sleeved ones, that I can quickly get to the right ballpark if
> I need to (which is rare in any case these days).

Now THIS I like!


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread garym

as the jewel sleeve user, I'll note that the sleeves are a little larger
than normal (so there is room for the full inserts without cutting) and,
I suppose more importantly, there are two "slots" within each sleeve.
One is lined with a soft "felt like" material for holding the CD
itself. Probably not necessary but this may be one reason these cost
more. They will send you a free sample if you want to check them out. 

Once in a while they do a major sale on the sleeves. So I just stocked
up in the past. And this is all rounding error $$ compared to what I
spend on the CDs themselves anyhow ;-)


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-15 Thread eq72521

maggior;561596 Wrote: 
> Oh my!!! :-)
> 
> I might have had a heart attack if my kids did that.  I guess I should
> thank my wife for forbidding the CD collection from being kept upstairs
> :-).

Once, I tried sliding the 1000 CD shelf I mentioned earlier when it was
full of about 5-600 CDs.  It tipped forward spilling all of my CDs into
the general entertainment area (TV, stereo, etc.).  The room looked not
unlike JonWill's, though I did not take a picture.  The television still
bears the scars (in the plastic around the screen).


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread Zoltan

garym;561972 Wrote: 
> as the jewel sleeve user, I'll note that the sleeves are a little larger
> than normal (so there is room for the full inserts without cutting) and,
> I suppose more importantly, there are two "slots" within each sleeve.
> One is lined with a soft "felt like" material for holding the CD
> itself. Probably not necessary but this may be one reason these cost
> more. They will send you a free sample if you want to check them out. 
> 
> Once in a while they do a major sale on the sleeves. So I just stocked
> up in the past. And this is all rounding error $$ compared to what I
> spend on the CDs themselves anyhow ;-)

The Jazz Loft sleeves sound similar in that they have enough room for
all inserts.  The front booklet goes in one pocket and the back insert
and CD goes in the other.  The pockets are loose enough to fit a
booklet and CD in the case of 2CD sets.  The difference from your
description is the felt lining - the Jazz Loft ones are just a straight
polythene-like material.  One thing that does worry me a bit is that, in
the sleeves, the CD faces are right up against the insert on one side
and the plastic sleeve on the other.  In a jewel case, the CD only
really touches anything near the spindle and the rest floats free.  I
don't know whether this has implications for longevity.

You are right that the cost is marginal on a per CD basis but I had a
biggish collection (100s) to catch up with and there were international
postage charges on top of the price I mentioned above.  Anyway, I might
try the Jewel Sleeve ones when I need a new batch.

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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread garym

Zoltan;562202 Wrote: 
> The Jazz Loft sleeves sound similar in that they have enough room for
> all inserts.  The front booklet goes in one pocket and the back insert
> and CD goes in the other.  The pockets are loose enough to fit a
> booklet and CD in the case of 2CD sets.  The difference from your
> description is the felt lining - the Jazz Loft ones are just a straight
> polythene-like material.  One thing that does worry me a bit is that, in
> the sleeves, the CD faces are right up against the insert on one side
> and the plastic sleeve on the other.  In a jewel case, the CD only
> really touches anything near the spindle and the rest floats free.  I
> don't know whether this has implications for longevity.
> 
> You are right that the cost is marginal on a per CD basis but I had a
> biggish collection (100s) to catch up with and there were international
> postage charges on top of the price I mentioned above.  Anyway, I might
> try the Jewel Sleeve ones when I need a new batch.
> 
> Thanks for the information.

Yep, sounds like the "felt" is the only difference. I too wonder about
how this storage affects the CD longrun. On the other hand, I truly
hope that I never, ever, ever look at the CD again once stored (even
before ripping, I read the liner notes once when I purchased the CD and
rarely looked at them again). I've got my FLAC version, lots and lots of
backup drives in 3 different physical locations in two different cities.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread ModelCitizen

Phil Leigh;561738 Wrote: 
> 
> This is why I keep my CD's in the garage.

No disrespect here at all Phil but you people are so damn squeaky
clean. CDs are impractical (almost useless), take up valuable space,
collect dust and just have to go... and some stupid little impractical
law that stands no chance of ever being enforced in my house is just
not worth a second of my thought. I think I'm pretty normal, but
compared to you lot I seem to be something of a renegade.

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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread garym

ModelCitizen;562204 Wrote: 
> No disrespect here at all Phil but you people are so damn squeaky clean.
> CDs are impractical (almost useless), take up valuable space, collect
> dust and just have to go... and some stupid little impractical law that
> stands no chance of ever being enforced in my house is just not worth a
> second of my thought. I think I'm pretty normal, but compared to you
> lot I seem to be something of a renegade.
> 
> MC

I certainly don't keep mine because of legal reasons. Mostly as a last
chance recovery should all other backups fail. But honestly, I just
have a hard time getting rid of stuff. I still have lots of vinyl
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread Phil Leigh

ModelCitizen;562204 Wrote: 
> No disrespect here at all Phil but you people are so damn squeaky clean.
> CDs are impractical (almost useless), take up valuable space, collect
> dust and just have to go... and some stupid little impractical law that
> stands no chance of ever being enforced in my house is just not worth a
> second of my thought. I think I'm pretty normal, but compared to you
> lot I seem to be something of a renegade.
> 
> MC

MC, I don't disagree with any of your points...and I do realise the
probability of any legal consequences is very, very small, but:

1) I personally couldn't afford a conviction as I might lose my job
(seriously) - and copyright infringement is not merely a "civil matter"
in the UK.
2) more importantly, I might lose my music!
3) I hope no-one from the record companies is reading these threads!
(only kidding - they have bigger fish to fry than us... after all we
DID pay for our music)

I wasn't trying to be sanctimonious or take any kind of moral high
ground... just stating the facts in case anyone else reading this was
wondering about the legal situation.
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread Goodsounds

ModelCitizen;562204 Wrote: 
> No disrespect here at all Phil but you people are so damn squeaky clean.
> CDs are impractical (almost useless), take up valuable space, collect
> dust and just have to go... and some stupid little impractical law that
> stands no chance of ever being enforced in my house is just not worth a
> second of my thought. I think I'm pretty normal, but compared to you
> lot I seem to be something of a renegade.
> 
> MC

I don't see it as a moral or enforcement issue but rather a practical
one. Under the current state of play, the creation of new recorded
music is not a financially viable activity. That's why so many fewer
new recordings are being produced these days.

The recorded music business will continue to wilt, and perhaps die,
unless the problem is solved. It would be great if everyone who likes
recorded music would obtain what they want through normal commercial
channels and avoid facilitating others not doing likewise. Don't assume
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-16 Thread ModelCitizen

Goodsounds;56 Wrote: 
> I don't see it as a moral or enforcement issue but rather a practical
> one. Under the current state of play, the creation of new recorded
> music is not a financially viable activity. That's why so many fewer
> new recordings are being produced these days.
> 
> The recorded music business will continue to wilt, and perhaps die,
> unless the problem is solved. It would be great if everyone who likes
> recorded music would obtain what they want through normal commercial
> channels and avoid facilitating others not doing likewise. Don't assume
> the solution is someone else's concern.
So you are suggesting that CDs should not be passed on? My CDs would
become landfill as soon as have ripped them then. As someone who hates
waste I am much less happy with this solution than I am with passing
them on!

I cannot agree with your sentiments about the dwindling amount of
recorded music. There's absolutely massess around, and more every
second of every day.. hardly any produced on that wasteful and
inefficient medium ultimately destined for landfill, the CD though.
Maybe you're just not looking in the right place.

Phil. I've always wondered why someone with a responsible IT job in the
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-18 Thread Goodsounds

ModelCitizen;562281 Wrote: 
> So you are suggesting that CDs should not be passed on? My CDs would
> become landfill as soon as have ripped them then. As someone who hates
> waste I am much less happy with this solution than I am with passing
> them on!
> 
> I cannot agree with your sentiments about the dwindling amount of
> recorded music. There's absolutely massess around, and more every
> second of every day.. hardly any produced on that wasteful and
> inefficient medium ultimately destined for landfill, the CD though.
> Maybe you're just not looking in the right place.

If you're concerned with waste, buy downloads.

You don't need to agree with my comments about declining music output
and financial issues for performers and production companies. It's not
my opinion, check out your favorite news source or have a conversation
with any performing musician. Any one will tell you the same story,
there's little or no money to be made producing albums.  Even for those
who self-produce and distribute.

If you're happy with your own smug rationalization, fine. Your logic
doesn't work for me. If you're a music fan, as I said before, it's
wrong to assume that the problem is someone else's concern.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-21 Thread TiredLegs

My ~1000 CDs are still in the jewel cases on shelves (2 bookcase-style
units, one for Classical, and the other for Rock/Jazz/Misc). With three
Squeezeboxes in use for several years, my home CD players have long been
retired, except for one compact unit I hang onto for "emergency"
situations, like when I'm doing maintenance on my Squeezebox Server.

Until a few months ago, the only place I had been using the physical
discs was in my year 2000 car, which had a 6-disc changer but no
reasonable way to get decent sound quality from an MP3 player. Then I
bought a new 2010 Mazda and installed an optional iPod dock connector
interface with full control from the stereo head unit and steering
wheel buttons (not just an Aux input jack). All the FLAC files for the
Squeezebox are now duped as VBR 240kbps MP3 files for the iPod, and my
CDs are soon destined to become dust collectors. They'll probably stay
on the shelves until the next time I move homes, at which point, I will
switch to an archival storage solution like the sleeves mentioned in
this thread.

Of course, a few of the box sets (Miles Davis, The Beatles, etc.) will
remain intact and on hand for display and reference purposes.

By the way, I have to say that the Miles Davis Complete Columbia Album
Collection is itself a model of compact storage: 71 discs with full
(but small) artwork in a 9-inch long box. The sleeve approach would
barely take up less space.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-29 Thread scoob101

My CD`s will need to go up into the lost soon, as my daughter starts to
get big enough to consider destroying them!!

I note the "why not just ditch them/sell them/give them away"
discussion.

Notwitstanding the copyright infringement issues - Here`s why I won`t.

I`ve had 3 instances now where I have had to re-rip CD`s because the
(lossless) tracks won`t play at all, or are garbled. Backups tend to be
useless in this situation, because the backups contain the same
corruptions. So - the original media is still required in some rare
cases.

I`m sure many think this is not an issue, but it was for me, so I will
keep them handy. 

Just my 2p


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-29 Thread TheLastMan

Zoltan;561941 Wrote: 
> I noticed someone mentioned the JewelSleeve approach earlier.  
> 
> I used something similar from www.jazzloft.com with great success.
> 
> I'm pretty sure I looked into JewelSleeve at the time and am guessing
> it was the cost that decided it.  The sleeves from Jazz Loft are 15
> cents, or 7.50 USD for 50, whereas they are 24 USD from JewelSleeve.  I
> don't know if there is any technical difference between them but the
> Jazz Loft ones are good enough for me.
> 
> BTW, the sleeves don't look like much in their unfilled form but once
> the CD and inserts are in they seem a bit more substantial - it becomes
> a bit like a mini gatefold LP.  The main disadvantage of them is that
> you can't easily read the spine.  This isn't much of a problem for me
> as I have enough CDs that are in non-standard boxes etc., interspersed
> with the sleeved ones, that I can quickly get to the right ballpark if
> I need to (which is rare in any case these days).
Thanks for the tip.  The sales pitch on their site convinced me to
break out my wallet (pocket book!).

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with the rest on a shelf still in their jewel cases.

I was going to buy some more of these, as I have decided to archive the
rest.  However, you can only get 30 in a box meaning I would need to buy
another 10 boxes which works out at £48 ($72).  Although the net cost
including shipping only amounts to 16p a disk, they do take up more
room in the loft.

Taking the JazzLoft site at face value, I can buy 600 sleeves for £88
which would be enough to take my whole collection.  As they take up a
quarter of the space my whole collection would now only take up 5
boxes.  That would leave me with 5 empty boxes for future additions.
Not to mention the space saved in the loft.

I had thought about whether they would affect the CD disks in any way,
but as they are going to be put into the sleeves and probably never
taken out again it does not really bother me that the playing side will
be facing the paper as there would be no abrasion going on.

In the end this will cost me 18.6p a disk compared to 16p a disk for
the storage boxes on their own, but the space saving is worth the extra
to me.

Now where is my wallet...?


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-30 Thread TiredLegs

scoob101;565114 Wrote: 
> I`ve had 3 instances now where I have had to re-rip CD`s because the
> (lossless) tracks won`t play at all, or are garbled. Backups tend to be
> useless in this situation, because the backups contain the same
> corruptions. So - the original media is still required in some rare
> cases. 
If you're using FLAC files as your lossless format, there's a great
little utility called FLAC Tester that will automatically read through
all your FLACs and check them for corruption. I run it about once a
year. I think I've had it find two bad files, which I re-ripped. The
nice thing about it is that you don't have to wonder whether your files
are OK, and you don't have to wait to try to play one to discover it's
bad.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-30 Thread maggior

TiredLegs;565348 Wrote: 
> If you're using FLAC files as your lossless format, there's a great
> little utility called FLAC Tester that will automatically read through
> all your FLACs and check them for corruption. I run it about once a
> year. I think I've had it find two bad files, which I re-ripped. The
> nice thing about it is that you don't have to wonder whether your files
> are OK, and you don't have to wait to try to play one to discover it's
> bad.

Yes, or you can use the flac executable itself with the -t option,
which stands for test.  With a small amount of scripting with something
like perl, you can test you entire library and log the results.  I have
done this myself.

TiredLegs, if you are referring to the same FLAC Tester I've used in
the past, it is a Windows only application and doesn't do any logging.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-30 Thread Johnny Squeezebox

On a shelf right above the fireplace. Nothing like throwing some Black
Oak Arkansas or Midnight Oil on the fire to warm up a winter's eve. 

The vinyl is over to the left--it doesn't burn nearly as well, but the
covers go up nicely.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-31 Thread TiredLegs

maggior;565522 Wrote: 
> TiredLegs, if you are referring to the same FLAC Tester I've used in the
> past, it is a Windows only application and doesn't do any logging.
Flac Tester doesn't write a log file, but it displays everything in its
own window and shows a summary of any errors when it's done. If needed,
you could just copy and paste the contents into a text file, but I've
never had a reason to do that.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-07-31 Thread garym

maggior;565522 Wrote: 
> Yes, or you can use the flac executable itself with the -t option, which
> stands for test.  With a small amount of scripting with something like
> perl, you can test you entire library and log the results.  I have done
> this myself.
> 
> TiredLegs, if you are referring to the same FLAC Tester I've used in
> the past, it is a Windows only application and doesn't do any logging.

dbpoweramp users can "convert to" TEST do this as well.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-02 Thread earwaxer9

I have found that I have rippped and re-ripped my cd's several times
over the last few years I have been using my Transporter as my server.
The primary reason may be that I'm nuts, but I have experienced
different results ripping to various bit rates etc. My advice is keep
the CD's. Also, its easier to rip the CD than convert the ripped file
if you want to rip to a different format etc.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-02 Thread garym

earwaxer9;566111 Wrote: 
> I have found that I have rippped and re-ripped my cd's several times
> over the last few years I have been using my Transporter as my server.
> The primary reason may be that I'm nuts, but I have experienced
> different results ripping to various bit rates etc. My advice is keep
> the CD's. Also, its easier to rip the CD than convert the ripped file
> if you want to rip to a different format etc.

I'm not sure if you're nuts, but you are crazy (insert smiley face
here). By different bit rates I assume you are talking about ripping to
lossy (e.g., mp3). There is no "different bit rate" issue with LOSSLESS.
You can choose different compression levels but these are still
lossless. (And if you think a FLAC file ripped at -2 sounds different
from one ripped at -8, I'll have to respectively agree that you are
nuts.)

Don't you realize that you can rip your CDs to LOSSLESS (e.g., FLAC).
Then this LOSSLESS file (with all metadata, album art, etc.) can be
converted at any time to ANY other format (lossless or lossy (mp3, etc)
with a few clicks of a mouse. How can reripping be easier. I'm trying to
picture reripping my 7,000 plus CDs. Oh boy.  This said, I do in fact
keep all my CDs in jewelsleeves/cabinets as I noted earlier in this
thread.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-02 Thread ModelCitizen

Crazy 2. The Transporter is not a server. It is a player.

It is a very high quality player too. As garym says ripping your
collection to a lossy format for your Transporter is really, really
crazy. It is *the* Logitech player that most reveals the artefacts
inherent in the lossy formats.

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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-02 Thread earwaxer9

Ok, so what I mean is that in terms of the metadata, album art, etc, it
is easier to stick the disk in, have dbpoweramp look it up, and go from
there. Dbpoweramp converter does not work as smoothly with the metadata
etc. I only convert to lossless formats. No mp3. I have found that my
Transporter "likes" the 24/96 dbpoweramp conversion more than a
straight "native rip". Dont ask me why. Also, dbpoweramp's data base
has gotten bigger. It can compare many more disks to its data base for
a "accurate" rip designation. I like that. Thats why, when it really
matters, I like to go back to the CD itself, assuming it's in pristine
condition. Thats just me. Its part of the hobby that I like.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-02 Thread garym

earwaxer9;566205 Wrote: 
> Ok, so what I mean is that in terms of the metadata, album art, etc, it
> is easier to stick the disk in, have dbpoweramp look it up, and go from
> there. Dbpoweramp converter does not work as smoothly with the metadata
> etc. I only convert to lossless formats. No mp3. I have found that my
> Transporter "likes" the 24/96 dbpoweramp conversion more than a
> straight "native rip". Dont ask me why. Also, dbpoweramp's data base
> has gotten bigger. It can compare many more disks to its data base for
> a "accurate" rip designation. I like that. Thats why, when it really
> matters, I like to go back to the CD itself, assuming it's in pristine
> condition. Thats just me. Its part of the hobby that I like.

Ok. that makes a little more sense (well, at least more sense than
doing lots of lossy rips...).  Not sure why you think dbpa doesn't deal
with metadata very well with conversions. I use it and the metadata,
including album art, converts perfectly when I create mp3 files from
FLAC for portable use. I can point and click and have a new directory
of 60,000 mp3 files a day or so later, without any intervention from
me.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-02 Thread aubuti

I also prefer converting with dbpa instead of re-ripping. Not only does
it convert the metadata fine, but it also includes metadata that dbpa
does not do by default, such as ARTISTSORT, or cannot do, such as the
various MusicIP tags. That, plus the set-and-forget of batch
converting, means that I only re-rip if I find the original rip is
corrupt, which hasn't happened yet (knock wood).


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-03 Thread themrock

Ripped then secured on 3 ext. Hd,which i stored at home,at work.
Then i sell them, and buy new ones.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-18 Thread EdPell

My final (?) solution to storing my CDs and LPs.

Sleevetown has a triple-walled box designed specifically for LPs. I
needed only five which, with shipping, came to about 50 bucks. Their
site shows a box holding 90 LPs, but because I wanted to be able to
flip through them, I stored about 75 or so to a box.
http://tinyurl.com/yeknnhs

Even though my CDs will be in storage, I still wanted a container that
would allow flipping through to view their faces. I decided on simple
corrugated shipping boxes from Packaging Price.
http://tinyurl.com/2emtuv6

They have about a bazillion different sizes, but I selected the 6"H x
6"W x 24"D. With some slack to allow for flipping, about 55 fit in a
box and probably twice that if using slim cases. Because they're 6"
high, CDs can be stored spine up. Boxes in this size come in a 25-box
bundle.

Whenever I order something online that has a shipping cost greater than
the item, I always hit the "I'm Outta Here" button,  but in this case,
25 boxes totaled about $25 with shipping. I bit on it.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-18 Thread bhaagensen

EdPell;561136 Wrote: 
> 
> I suppose they're put away somewhere - what have you stored them in? Do
> you often have to access them for one reason or another such as to load
> your vehicle's CD player?
> 

I've had them on remote storage for a couple of years and I've been
happy with that. Though, I would have loved if space allowed to have
them properly stored and easily accessible at home. Although most
information can be found on the interweb, its just so much nicer to sit
with the physical booklet while listening.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-19 Thread MelonMonkey

CDs are currently stored in three large cardboard boxes in the basement.
Not having access to a physical object representing an album is a bit
of a nostalgic loss.  There's something so visceral about browsing
through a shelf of disks, like old books. 

If I was super adventurous, I'd put together a very handsome shelving
unit to hold them all in a room upstairs - with a unique RFID inserted
into each jewel case.  Then a small RFID reader disguised in a piece of
furniture near the stereo (possibly a couple of others embedded in the
walls) all wired to the server.  Pick up a jewel case and swipe it in
front of the reader to start it playing on the Squeezebox in that zone.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread lrossouw

MelonMonkey;570265 Wrote: 
> 
> If I was super adventurous, I'd put together a very handsome shelving
> unit to hold them all in a room upstairs - with a unique RFID inserted
> into each jewel case.  Then a small RFID reader disguised in a piece of
> furniture near the stereo (possibly a couple of others embedded in the
> walls) all wired to the server.  Pick up a jewel case and swipe it in
> front of the reader to start it playing on the Squeezebox in that zone.

This is a great idea but you don't even need the RFID\reader.  Think
barcodes & phones.  The Android phones can all read barcodes so you can
just scan the barcode find the name of the cd and search your library
and play.  Could be automated by the developers of apps for these
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread ikhlas6

oh all these cd`s


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread funkstar

lrossouw;570508 Wrote: 
> This is a great idea but you don't even need the RFID\reader.  Think
> barcodes & phones.  The Android phones can all read barcodes so you can
> just scan the barcode find the name of the cd and search your library
> and play.  Could be automated by the developers of apps for these
> phones.
While I agree, I do really like the implications of MelonMonkey's idea
:)

Take a CD off the shelf and place it on your coffee table, that album
starts to play. Take the CD to another room and the stream follows you
around the house. Day to day it might be a complete pain in the ass,
but it would be an amazing concept to show off if done right :)


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread lrossouw

funkstar;570522 Wrote: 
> While I agree, I do really like the implications of MelonMonkey's idea
> :)
> 
> Take a CD off the shelf and place it on your coffee table, that album
> starts to play. Take the CD to another room and the stream follows you
> around the house. Day to day it might be a complete pain in the ass,
> but it would be an amazing concept to show off if done right :)

Ah actually you're right.  The rfid version would be cool too, but it'd
be more work.  At the moment tagging is tough but it would be nothing
compared to the efforts RFID tagging would involve :D


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread iPhone

MelonMonkey;570265 Wrote: 
> CDs are currently stored in three large cardboard boxes in the basement.
> Not having access to a physical object representing an album is a bit
> of a nostalgic loss.  There's something so visceral about browsing
> through a shelf of disks, like old books. 
> 
> If I was super adventurous, I'd put together a very handsome shelving
> unit to hold them all in a room upstairs - with a unique RFID inserted
> into each jewel case.  Then a small RFID reader disguised in a piece of
> furniture near the stereo (possibly a couple of others embedded in the
> walls) all wired to the server.  Pick up a jewel case and swipe it in
> front of the reader to start it playing on the Squeezebox in that zone.

OK, I can understand the nostalgic or sensory loss as I still enjoy the
ritual of preparing to play Vinyl. Having said that, the whole idea of
the Squeezebox (or any digital media player) is to play digital files
relieving us of the need to search or dig through CDs. I have
discovered more old favorites since using Squeezebox, then in the last
15 years of playing CDs in a CDP. Also with a Controller, Touch, or
iPeng, one can look at album covers. I enjoy iPeng in Portrait mode.

Besides with the number of CDs I have, it was taking longer to find a
CD just to play it then I spent listening to music. Plus the time to
take it out, put it in the play, take it out, and put it back in place.
Sure the RFID only requires me to 'find' it, but I could have already
been listening using iPeng.

The money spent on RFID tags and scanners could go toward purchasing
more music. Its a novel idea, but if one is going to use a server
anyway seems like a lot to go through just to play a CD.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread maggior

iPhone;570606 Wrote: 
> OK, I can understand the nostalgic or sensory loss as I still enjoy the
> ritual of preparing to play Vinyl. Having said that, the whole idea of
> the Squeezebox (or any digital media player) is to play digital files
> relieving us of the need to search or dig through CDs. I have
> discovered more old favorites since using Squeezebox, then in the last
> 15 years of playing CDs in a CDP. Also with a Controller, Touch, or
> iPeng, one can look at album covers. I enjoy iPeng in Portrait mode.
> 
> Besides with the number of CDs I have, it was taking longer to find a
> CD just to play it then I spent listening to music. Plus the time to
> take it out, put it in the play, take it out, and put it back in place.
> Sure the RFID only requires me to 'find' it, but I could have already
> been listening using iPeng.
> 
> The money spent on RFID tags and scanners could go toward purchasing
> more music. Its a novel idea, but if one is going to use a server
> anyway seems like a lot to go through just to play a CD.

I'm with iPhone.  From a technology geek perspective, it would be
really cool, but I don't think it would prove tremendously useful
outside of a very select few.  I think money and effort could be spent
on better things, like developing better tagging schemes, better
library database schema, and multiple library support.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread Nonreality

So far they are in boxes.  I have no idea what I'm going to do with
them. Probably save them like my albums and never use them again just
to haul around where ever I go.  Maybe give them away or trade them in
(I know,I know.).  How about a link for that flac tester.  Sounds like
a nice choice or else the way to use the flac files to test instead of
just saying it can be done would be appreciated. Thanks in advance if
you teach us how to do it my friend.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-08-20 Thread pski

maggior;570724 Wrote: 
> I'm with iPhone.  From a technology geek perspective, it would be really
> cool, but I don't think it would prove tremendously useful outside of a
> very select few.  I think money and effort could be spent on better
> things, like developing better tagging schemes, better library database
> schema, and multiple library support.

"Real" multiple libraries would be good. So far, I'm making do with
multiple vortexbox virtual machines...

P


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-10-21 Thread TiredLegs

I've come across another option for removing CDs from their jewel cases.
I was looking for something as thin as possible to permanently store the
discs and all their associated insert materials as archival backups,
with the likelihood that I will never access most of them ever again.
(My collection of about 1000 CDs is all digitized for multiple
Squeezeboxes and iPods. These days, I might look at a couple of CD
inserts a month, and the only CDs I've played in months have been a few
brand new ones that I played in my car before I digitized them.)

"Jewel Sleeves" would have been ideal, except for their price of $0.40
apiece, or $400 for 1000 pieces. The JazzLoft.com sleeves are more
reasonably priced at $0.15 each, and look like an excellent solution if
you still want frequent access to your CDs. But the four layers of 4 mil
plastic in the JazzLoft sleeves seemed bulkier than was necessary for my
purposes.

Then I discovered the super thin (1-2 mil) mylar plastic resealable
sleeves used to protect entire CDs in their jewel cases. Turns out that
they're ideal for minimalist storage without the jewel case. Everything
fits nicely in these mylar sleeves, including one or two discs, the
front booklet, and the rear insert with the flaps folded out flat. They
can still go on a shelf with the text on the flaps easily visible just
by running your fingers across them. They take up even less space than
the JazzLoft sleeves. If you're worried (I'm not) about the CD surface
touching the mylar or printed materials, you can always put the discs
in super cheap paper sleeves before putting them in the mylar. For
mini-LP style cardboard CD covers, the whole thing fits inside the
mylar, helping preserve the cardboard from degradation. And the best
part is that the mylar sleeves are quite inexpensive. At Sleevetown.com
for example, 500 of them sell for $18 (less than $0.04 each) plus
shipping. Sleevetown even notes "This sleeve may also be used to store
the entire contents of a typical jewel case including back tray card
and booklet for perfectly flat storage." (See "Resealable Mylar Single
Outer" at http://www.sleevetown.com/plastic-cd-sleeves.shtml).

For me, it seems like the best solution I've encountered thus far. I've
experimented with a few I already have around, and I have a large
quantity order on the way. If it all works out, I'll be hauling a
couple hundred pounds of jewel case plastic to my local recycling
collection facility.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2010-10-21 Thread jimzak

Check my signature.

My CDs are in the "Media Library".


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-10 Thread peterw

TiredLegs;584337 Wrote: 
> 
> Then I discovered the super thin (1-2 mil) mylar plastic resealable
> sleeves used to protect entire CDs in their jewel cases. ... At
> Sleevetown.com for example, 500 of them sell for $18 (less than $0.04
> each) plus shipping. Sleevetown even notes "This sleeve may also be
> used to store the entire contents of a typical jewel case including
> back tray card and booklet for perfectly flat storage." (See
> "Resealable Mylar Single Outer" at
> http://www.sleevetown.com/plastic-cd-sleeves.shtml).
> 
> For me, it seems like the best solution I've encountered thus far. I've
> experimented with a few I already have around, and I have a large
> quantity order on the way. If it all works out, I'll be hauling a
> couple hundred pounds of jewel case plastic to my local recycling
> collection facility.

Have you had a chance to try the Sleevetown mylar sleeves out yet? I
was just about to order from jazzloft, but I'm intrigued by the mylar
option, as I almost never access my CDs, not in the years since I got
caught up ripping them for my Squeezeboxes.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-11 Thread TiredLegs

peterw;601544 Wrote: 
> Have you had a chance to try the Sleevetown mylar sleeves out yet? I was
> just about to order from jazzloft, but I'm intrigued by the mylar
> option, as I almost never access my CDs, not in the years since I got
> caught up ripping them for my Squeezeboxes.
Yep, over the past couple of months I've loaded nearly all my CDs into
the Sleevetown mylar sleeves. (I keep box sets intact.) The sleeves
work perfectly for what I wanted to do. A small number of my CDs (e.g.
with special booklets or extra artwork) were too thick to fit into the
standard sleeves, so I also bought a pack of different mylar sleeves on
eBay that are large enough to hold fatboy double CDs in their cases.
Seven shelves worth of CDs now fit in about two and a third shelves.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-11 Thread peterw

TiredLegs;601624 Wrote: 
> Yep, over the past couple of months I've loaded nearly all my CDs into
> the Sleevetown mylar sleeves. (I keep box sets intact.) The sleeves
> work perfectly for what I wanted to do. A small number of my CDs (e.g.
> with special booklets or extra artwork) were too thick to fit into the
> standard sleeves, so I also bought a pack of different mylar sleeves on
> eBay that are large enough to hold fatboy double CDs in their cases.
> Seven shelves worth of CDs now fit in about two and a third shelves.

Great, thank you for the update. Now I just need to see if my wife will
accept mylar for her discs or if she'll want the more familiar book-like
jazzloft cases. I guess I'll get some Sleevetown for mine & show her...
again, thank you for the suggestion & status report!

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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-11 Thread maggior

jimzak;584358 Wrote: 
> Check my signature.
> 
> My CDs are in the "Media Library".

Jimzak - that is one impressive CD collection, wow!


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-11 Thread cats_five

EdPell;561136 Wrote: 
> J Do you often have to access them for one reason or another such as to
> load your vehicle's CD player?

I have never, ever had original CDs in the car.  At one time I had a
car with a CD changer which I loaded with copies, that was great though
I found some kinds of music didn't work well in the car.  Now I have a
tiny MP3 player I can plug into the car's sound system and play stuff
from if what's on the radio is dull or the reception has gone - there
is a dead patch (for radio 3, radio 4 and classic FM at least) on the
M6 south of the Tebay services, sometimes it's bad all the way down to
the A65 junction.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-12 Thread TiredLegs

peterw;601675 Wrote: 
> Great, thank you for the update. Now I just need to see if my wife will
> accept mylar for her discs or if she'll want the more familiar
> book-like jazzloft cases. I guess I'll get some Sleevetown for mine &
> show her... again, thank you for the suggestion & status report! 
The mylar sleeves are perfect for -storing- CDs, but I'm not sure I
would recommend them if your wife would be accessing the discs inside
them every time she wants to listen to music. It's definitely not as
easy as jewel cases to get the discs in and out of them, and it's not
as easy to just browse the titles on a shelf. I think the Jazzloft
cases would be better in those respects. If price were no object, I
would have bought the Jazzloft ones, but the mylar sleeves are so much
less money.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-01-12 Thread TheLastMan

TiredLegs;601937 Wrote: 
> The mylar sleeves are perfect for -storing- CDs, but I'm not sure I
> would recommend them if your wife would be accessing the discs inside
> them every time she wants to listen to music. It's definitely not as
> easy as jewel cases to get the discs in and out of them, and it's not
> as easy to just browse the titles on a shelf. I think the Jazzloft
> cases would be better in those respects. If price were no object, I
> would have bought the Jazzloft ones, but the mylar sleeves are so much
> less money.
The Jazzloft sleeves are brilliant, cannot recommend them too highly.
Well worth the cost of importing them from US. I access them mainly to
refer to the CD booklets.

To me the main problem with digital music is the lack of sleeve notes
and lyrics. If the record companies are as short of cash as they say
they are, they could sell PDF copies of the CD booklets.  If they were
cheap enough they would sell lots and people would probably not bother
to "pirate" them.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-06 Thread ralphpnj

I know that I'm a little late to the party but better late than never.

I just finished putting all of my CDs (the one's originally in plastic
jewel cases) into polyethylene plastic sleeves with flaps.
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UHEFX6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=)
The sleeves are fairly well made and the price was right at about 3.3
cents (US) each. I needed just under 3,000 (2,850) sleeves.

What I did was place the CD and the booklet together into one sleeve,
with or without the tray insert (the piece of paper that is located
below the plastic CD holder). All CDs were inserted with the label side
facing the plastic and the data side resting against the paper booklet.
If the tray insert contained information that was not in the booklet
then I removed the insert, folded it in half and placed in the sleeve.
For double CDs sets I placed the booklet and both CDs along with the
folded tray insert between the CDs. For three and four CD sets I used
two sleeves. All boxed sets not in plastic cases and all CDs in
cardboard "digipak" cases where left in the original cases.

I then placed all the CDs (the ones on in plastic sleeves, the ones in
cardboard cases and the smaller box sets) back onto storage racks. As
stated by Zoltan in the quote below, while it is not possible to read
the spine of the CDs in the plastic sleeves I can still find the
approximate location of any CD by reading the spines of the cardboard
cases. When I was all finished I managed to fit my entire collection of
over 3,000 CDs onto three racks which originally held approximately
1,100 CDs.

I now have relatively easy access to any CD should I care to read the
booklet or have a need to re-rip the CD. I also now have room for more
book cases. Now if I could convince my wife to get an ebook reader and
get rid of the print books :)

Zoltan;561941 Wrote: 
> I noticed someone mentioned the JewelSleeve approach earlier.  
> 
> I used something similar from www.jazzloft.com with great success.
> 
> I'm pretty sure I looked into JewelSleeve at the time and am guessing
> it was the cost that decided it.  The sleeves from Jazz Loft are 15
> cents, or 7.50 USD for 50, whereas they are 24 USD from JewelSleeve.  I
> don't know if there is any technical difference between them but the
> Jazz Loft ones are good enough for me.
> 
> BTW, the sleeves don't look like much in their unfilled form but once
> the CD and inserts are in they seem a bit more substantial - it becomes
> a bit like a mini gatefold LP.  The main disadvantage of them is that
> you can't easily read the spine.  This isn't much of a problem for me
> as I have enough CDs that are in non-standard boxes etc., interspersed
> with the sleeved ones, that I can quickly get to the right ballpark if
> I need to (which is rare in any case these days).


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-07 Thread jimzak

jimzak;584358 Wrote: 
> Check my signature.
> 
> My CDs are in the "Media Library".

I started the LONG transition to poly bags for all my CDs in jewel
cases yesterday.  The space to store CDs in jewel cases drops to 25% of
what it was when I use these 2 pocket bags: 

http://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3301-double-pocket-cd-sleeve-with-white-poly-separator-1-resealable-flap.aspx

[for some reason Bags Unlimited website is very unreliable]

I should be able to reclaim a lot of space as I continue to rip
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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-07 Thread ralphpnj

jimzak;609005 Wrote: 
> I started the LONG transition to poly bags for all my CDs in jewel cases
> yesterday.  The space to store CDs in jewel cases drops to 25% of what
> it was when I use these 2 pocket bags: 
> 
> http://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3301-double-pocket-cd-sleeve-with-white-poly-separator-1-resealable-flap.aspx
> 
> [for some reason Bags Unlimited website is very unreliable]
> 
> I should be able to reclaim a lot of space as I continue to rip
> everything into my music server.

Quick question: what are you planning to do with the empty jewel
cases?

I filled up at least 25 grocery bags with the empty jewel cases and
placed them out with the household trash. Luckily the garbage
collection service in my town did not seem to object and happily took
them all away.

Please keep us posted on your progress. I'm looking forward to seeing
the before and after pictures.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-07 Thread maggior

ralphpnj;608840 Wrote: 
> Now if I could convince my wife to get an ebook reader and get rid of
> the print books :)

My wife wishes I would do this since I got a Kindle for Christmas.  The
problem is that there are a significant number of books that I have that
are not available in eBook format.  It reminds me of when CDs first came
out - remember that period in the late 80's/early 90's where you
anxiously anticipated albums becoming available on CD for the first
time?

This is off topic, but I love reading on my Kindle.  I may never buy a
print book again (for novels at least).  It's to books what the
Squeezebox is to music.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-07 Thread ralphpnj

maggior;609041 Wrote: 
> My wife wishes I would do this since I got a Kindle for Christmas.  The
> problem is that there are a significant number of books that I have
> that are not available in eBook format.  It reminds me of when CDs
> first came out - remember that period in the late 80's/early 90's where
> you anxiously anticipated albums becoming available on CD for the first
> time?

Actually in the early days of CDs I took a completely different
approach. I went out and bought myself a very nice turntable (a used
Linn LP12) and while all my friends were busy replacing their vinyl
collections with little silver discs I only bought CDs of new material.
The LPs sounded great then and still sound great today. The funny thing
is with the advent of streaming music and digital downloads the days of
the CD are clearly numbered and yet there is no replacement for good old
vinyl. In other words, long after CDs are replaced by digital files
vinyl will live on.

By the same token ebooks may well replace the novel but may never
replace those large format glossy photo books aka "coffee table" books.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-08 Thread TheLastMan

ralphpnj;609048 Wrote: 
> Actually in the early days of CDs I took a completely different
> approach. I went out and bought myself a very nice turntable (a used
> Linn LP12) and while all my friends were busy replacing their vinyl
> collections with little silver discs I only bought CDs of new
> material.
> Me too!

In the mid 1990's the record shops were selling off the last of their
LP stock. I remember picking up 10 LPs from HMV, all ones I actually
wanted, for £1.50 each. The same thing seems to be happening now with
CDs.  I just picked up three U2 CDs (October, Pop and How to Dismantle
an Atomic Bomb) from a clearance sale at HMV in Oxford Street at £3
each.  Their CD stock is thinning out alarmingly - I have had
difficulty buying a lot of back-catalogue items recently and taken to
e-bay to find those older recordings.
> The LPs sounded great then and still sound great today.You should try 
> recording some of them onto digital files. You get the
best of both worlds then. I have recorded 300 LPs to FLAC so far, about
half of my collection, many of which are not available either on CD or
digital.
> The funny thing is with the advent of streaming music and digital
> downloads the days of the CD are clearly numbered and yet there is no
> replacement for good old vinyl. In other words, long after CDs are
> replaced by digital files vinyl will live on.
I am not sure what you are getting at here.  CD replaced LP, yet there
are still many of us stalwarts out here enjoying our LP collections. I
am sure that when CD finally gets replaced by digital files there will
be plenty of old fogies out there enjoying their CD collection in the
same way as I enjoy my LP collection. LPs were the recording medium of
*my* youth so I have a nostalgia for slipping the LP from its sleeve
and dropping the needle in the groove - hearing that crackly lead in
give way to music.  I am sure many of those brought up with CD will get
the same kick from flipping the disk out of its jewel case and watching
the disk tray slide home.

> By the same token ebooks may well replace the novel but may never
> replace those large format glossy photo books aka "coffee table" books.
You are right, but I think books generally are more of a technological
challenge than LPs and CDs.  CDs only have music on them (in most
cases) so you can fit *any* music into a digital file.  However books
come in all shapes and sizes and often contain a complex mixture of
text, photos and graphics.  I think the novel translates neatly to the
Kindle, but a travel guide? Or a medical text book? Graphic novel?
Pop-up children's book? Try putting "Where's Wally" on a Kindle!

One day we may get fold-out reading devices up to A3 size with full
colour reflective screens with a true white background that can do
600dpi photos or line art with no backlight and with a 2 week battery
life (don't hold your breath!). But until then there is little threat
to a large proportion of books.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-08 Thread TiredLegs

ralphpnj;609029 Wrote: 
> Quick question: what are you planning to do with the empty jewel cases?
Offer them for free on Craig's List or FreeCycle.org. Some local
musician or student might want them for whatever reason.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-09 Thread TheLastMan

ralphpnj;609029 Wrote: 
> Quick question: what are you planning to do with the empty jewel cases?
Kept about 20 and threw the rest (300+) in the trash (about 1/4 were
chipped or damaged anyway). I checked with the waste authority and they
cannot recycle them because they are "the wrong kind of plastic"
(shame!).  and they are only about 30p each so you would have to be
pretty poor not to be able to afford to buy them new. Even the intact
ones looked pretty tatty unless absolutely brand new.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-09 Thread toby10

Another idea for those unwanted CD cases, ask your local library if they
might like them.
Library CD's and their cases get pretty beat up as they are checked
out, moved, returned, etc.. over and over.
I blame those d*#n kids!  (even though I sat on a library CD myself in
the library parking lot, but that's besides the point!)


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-09 Thread carib

jimzak;609005 Wrote: 
> I started the LONG transition to poly bags for all my CDs in jewel cases
> yesterday.  The space to store CDs in jewel cases drops to 25% of what
> it was when I use these 2 pocket bags: 
> 
> http://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3301-double-pocket-cd-sleeve-with-white-poly-separator-1-resealable-flap.aspx
> 
> [for some reason Bags Unlimited website is very unreliable]
> 
> I should be able to reclaim a lot of space as I continue to rip
> everything into my music server.

Just out of curiosity... do you have an estimated time of completion?


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-10 Thread jimzak

carib;609804 Wrote: 
> Just out of curiosity... do you have an estimated time of completion?

No idea.  I'm going to rip to FLAC as I change over to bags.

Likely it will take 3-5 years as I also work 60+ hours per week to pay
for all this stuff :)


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-10 Thread carib

Best of luck Jimzak and Happy Ripping...but, wow, 60+ workweek leaves
little time to enjoy all those goodies. I bet you have music with you
most of the time anyway.


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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2011-02-11 Thread Archer_11

eq72521;561179 Wrote: 
> I'd probably stop buying them altogether if FLAC was offered as a
> purchasable option.

When is that going to happen, I mean seriously mr. music industry, it's
way overdue.


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