[Elecraft] K1 No tone-does transmit

2007-12-09 Thread Richard HIll
I'm trying to understand why I can't seem to get my K1 to emit a tone when I
press + and - but I do hear dits and dahs in my earphones when I transmit
and I do hear dits and dahs in my other radio when I transmit into a dummy
load.  I'm trying to do a final alignment.  Can you do a final alignment
with key down rather than via tone?

Any suggestions welcome.

Rich
NU6T


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[Elecraft] K2 and Z90 Panadapter FOR SALE

2007-12-09 Thread Mike Warden
For Sale:

 

I have just ordered a K3 (after agonizing over the decision for months) and,
as a result, I am forced to offer my "as new" K2 #4972 for sale.  I have the
following components: K2 Transceiver #4972; KPA100 100 Watt Amplifier; KSB2
SSB Option; K160RX 160 M & 2nd Antenna Option; KNB2 Noise Blanker; KDSP2 DSP
& Clock Option; K60XV 60M & Transverter Option; KAT100-1 External Antenna
Tuner; ETS15 1.5" Extra Tilt Stand; FDIMP Finger Dimple; K2VCOSHLDKT VCO
Shield Kit; DL1 20 Watt Dummy Load; Full Set of Cables; Full Set of Original
Manuals; assembled set of ReWork Eliminators & their Microphone Adapter Kit;
Yaesu Ft-100 Tuning Knob; Nifty K2 Mini-Manual; and an outstanding Clifton
Laboratories Z90 Panadapter #1008 (band scope) with a Long Running Spares
Kit and accessories (this is the Z90 that was featured on the cover of QEX
Magazine in March 2007 and I will include a copy of the Magazine).

 

All of these units: the K2 Transceiver, KAT100 Automatic Antenna Tuner, Z90
Panadapter, and options are in pristine cosmetic and mechanical condition;
they were assembled without errors or rework, and they all are, to the best
of my ability to determine, in perfect working condition.  I am the builder
and the original owner and the equipment has always lived in a non-smoking
environment.  The workmanship is excellent.  Also included are the original
Manuals for all of the kits and options, in perfect condition and with no
markings, as well as all of the cables and other bits and pieces.  I also
have a collection of articles, photos, notes, and references for both the K2
and the Z90 that I will include on a CD(s) if you are interested.

 

I am asking $2,425.70 for the complete package, which represents the 90% of
the total base price of the kits (less a LOT of shipping charges).  I will
ship everything, double-boxed, anywhere in the U.S. via UPS Ground, insured,
without additional charge.

 

Please note: I do not intend to separate these units.  Together, they
comprise a matched set of outstanding components for an individual who is
interested in owning an excellent and complete K2 / Z90 station.  The only
exception I will make is that if the Z90 and its full Spares Kit and
accessories is sold first for $706.05, I will then offer the remainder of
the K2 station for $1,711.68.

 

Please contact me off-list if you are interested, or if you have any
questions concerning these items.

 

PS: I know that my K3 will not be delivered until probably March, at the
earliest; and I hereby promise not to send a single message to the reflector
regarding my shipping date, or anyone else's shipping date, for that matter.
I have promised myself that I will wait patiently, or at least quietly.

 

   73

-mike-

Michael Warden - W2PY

Scottsdale, AZ

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for December 9th & 10th, 2007

2007-12-09 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   ECOM operations ceased as of  PST today.  The infrastructure of the 
coast from Lincoln City to Astoria is allowing folks to take care of themselves 
and communicate via their normal means.  Washington is still a mess but I was 
not involved with their ECOM efforts so I am not familiar with all that 
occurred up there.  I can only describe the part of the elephant I felt.
   Tonight the twenty meter net went very well.  However, who pulled the plug 
on forty?  After I worked W6ZH there was a long lull until I worked a local 
station.  I shut down at 0330z after working a few more.  I was not expecting 
propagation to be so poor after last week's session.
   From the notes I am getting from N0SS he is having some lousy weather.  
Hopefully he will not lose his beam.  The dipole is half down from ice but the 
rest may go tomorrow.  He said worse is on the way.  As long as he doesn't have 
that tower crashing down it won't be TOO bad.  
   Ten minutes into the forty meter net I was tempted to see if my antennas 
were still up!  Weather here is 20 degrees with light snow and no wind.  More 
light snow is on the way but then later in the week it will rain.  I may be in 
Tom's shoes by late in the week.  However, I don't have all that expensive 
aluminum to replace.

   The lists =>

On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553QNI #80
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
W0JFR - John - CO - K2 - 4507
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993   QNI #130
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942
W1BPJ - Terry - CO - K1 - 1800
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037
NO8V - John - MI - ?
W0SZW - Keith - IA - ?
W7KPL - Jerry - AZ - ?
KJ7BS - Mark - AZ - K2 - 539
KD5PZO - Pat - OR - K4 - 001

On 7045 kHz at 0300z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553
AA7YW - Dick - WA - FT-890
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037 
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
KD5PZO - Pat - OR - K4 - 001

   The A to B mods on my rig made a large difference in its ease of operation.  
I had a lot more gain than I was used to over the years.  Most of the first net 
was run with the gain at 11 o'clock.  I did move it once but then lowered it 
once again.  I opened the filters from 500 Hz to 1800 Hz near the end of the 
first net and found two stations nearby.  I could hear nothing from them while 
I was on net frequency.  The audio filter sounds different though.  I am not 
sure what was changed in it by the A to B mods.  Maybe you all can tell me.
  Tomorrow I am off for a hike in the woods.  The local logging companies will 
provide a fir tree for me.  I decided I don't want a domestic tree this year.  
I'll cut a wild (well, hybrid Doug fir) instead.  They have more character: 
kind of like Charlie Brown's tree :)  I think it will look nice on the dining 
room table once I am done with it.  Besides hiking a few miles with a domestic 
tree is a lot of work!  
   Until next week stay warm and dry,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)



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[Elecraft] Setting up PF1/PF2

2007-12-09 Thread w2bvh

Hi

I'm at the end of installing new firmware in K2 sn 1520 in advance of 
building and installing a KIO2. And that's being done in order to build 
and connect up a new XV50 kit that's sitting patiently on my  bench.


Anyway, all's going quite well except:

1. I'd like to restore the narrow RIT range to the PF1 key, but can't 
make it happen (there is no RIT selection in the menu list for PF1). Any 
advice greatly appreciated.


2. I've got SCAN successfully re-assigned to the PF2 key but pressing it 
doesn't initiate a scan. I assume that I have to re-enter all my scan 
limits in order for PF2 to do its thing again?


3. After quick glance at the features of the "new"  firmware (2.04p) 
that weren't present in the old (1.04d), I don't see anything of much 
interest. Is there any "new" feature that has proved particularly 
appealing that I should look into in more detail ?  For reference, on 
hf  I do 12 watts or less, mainly cw (except ssb+cw in contests).


Thanks in advance...

73,
Lenny W2BVH


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[Elecraft] Noise blanker in 10m contest

2007-12-09 Thread B. Scott Andersen

I lost some of today helping a club member with
an antenna but I'm not sure it was any great loss.
K2 QRP effort netted 35 QSOs for the whole contest
with only 4 mults. 

There was one noteworthy thing from this effort.
For the first time while I was using my K2 there
was this irritating noise being picked up on receive.
This noise was LOUD and it promised to make an
already challenging day even tougher. 

Normally this is a pretty quiet location so I was 
surprised. Anyway, I glanced at the radio and saw
the little "NB" switch. I've never had an opportunity
to test this particular feature before today. Press the
button: noise gone. Turn off "NB" and the noise is
back. Wow. That really, really works well! 

I don't know if the NB circuit for the K1 is as good
as the one in the K2, but I've convinced myself that
the two K1's I built in November (40/30/20/17 and
80/15) should both have a noise blanker.

If anybody is on the fence about whether or not
to get the K2 noise blanker I say "go for it".  If
it works as well as the one in my K2 I think you'll
be very happy you did.

-- Scott (NE1RD)
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[Elecraft] OT - 10 meter contest

2007-12-09 Thread Craig D. Smith
Yep, today wasn't as good as yesterday, and I called yesterday "bleak"!
Today I had a grand total of 4 QSOs and no new multipliers.  Highlight was
actually yesterday evening a couple hours after dark when things were
jumping for awhile.  I was running over "60 per hour" but unfortunately that
rate only lasted for about 10 minutes !!  Strange that best signals here in
Colorado were after dark both Friday and Sat nites.

Ended up with 100 QSOs and only 20 multipliers - well down from last year,
and I was running 100W this year rather than QRP.  But wait until next year
-  Sunspots AND a new K3!!

 ... Craig   AC0DS




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Re: [Elecraft] OT - 10 meter contest

2007-12-09 Thread wd4lst

Whew!! Now I dont feel so bad..40 contacts with 18 multipliers.
I figured it was my lack of a good 10 meter setup. 
Although Fla had a direct line to MO this afternoon 
for a hour or so. Figured I might
hear Tom (N0SS) out there. 
It was fun any-hoo.
73s
-Pete

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Re: [Elecraft] Better drivers for "Phillips" screws

2007-12-09 Thread rcerkon
Simple tip, if you have a "Phillips Screwdriver", file or grind about
1mm off the point. The tool will now seat better in most Phillips or
Pozidrive screws and work much better.

No it's not the best solution, just one that works pretty good.
--
73 Rod, Ai7NN  ~*~*~Happy Holidays~*~*~

On Dec 9, 2007 1:49 PM, Ken Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While not a "Phillips" screwdriver, those made
> for "Posidriv" screws are better for "Phillips" screws.
>
> Yes, I'm well-aware of the difference in the two ...
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Re: [Elecraft] K60XV no tx power problem

2007-12-09 Thread Don Wilhelm

Stephen,

From the behavior you indicate, I would believe you have something 
wrong with the VRFDET signal.
Check first by removing the K60XV - install a low value capacitor (4.7 
pf is ideal) between the output two pins of J15 and install a wire 
jumper between pins 3 and 5 of J13.
With those 'unmodule' connections, see if you have proper operation on 
all bands (60 meters will not work, of course).   If operation is not 
restored, check the wires added to the bottom of the RF board carefully 
against the manual instructions, and be certain there are no solder 
bridges at J13.


If proper operation is restored with the temporary jumpers, then look at 
the soldering on the K60XV board, particularly at P1.


My best guess is:  If you have an older K2 (SN less than 3000), you did 
not make an adequate cut on the trace to J13 pin 6, or if you have a 
post SN 3000 K2, there is a solder bridge from the '8T' point near J13 
pin 6 to the 'X' point near it.


The reason for this guess goes to the heart of the K2 power control 
mechanism.  If the 8T line is connected to the VRFDET signal line, the 
K2 microprocessor thinks it is putting out a lot of power and reduces 
the BFO injection to attempt to reduce the power to the requested 
level.  The result would be an indication of high power out (19.1 watts) 
due to the voltage on the VRFDET line but no actual power output since 
the microprocessor has reduced the BFO injection to as low as it can 
possibly be reduced.


73,
Don W3FPR

Stephen Prior wrote:

I have just spent the afternoon here putting the K60XV board in my K2 s/no.
4930.  It works fine on rx and tests out okay until I get to the part on
page 13 where I have to set to 2W and peak C1 and C2 on the 60 metre board.

I have no power output, nothing registered on a 5W fsd external meter and
full scale deflection on the K2's meter with 19.1 Watts shown irrespective
of the position of the power control.  The same behaviour is seen on every
other band.  Yet the rx works fine on all bands.  At this point I have the
K2 bare except for ssb and noise blanker modules, and of course the K60XV -
the KAT2 and KIO2 are still sitting in the top lid on the floor beside me.

  

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Re: [Elecraft] FW: K60XV no tx power problem

2007-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
David, many thanks!

You were very close - I had inadvertently soldered the centre of the coax at
J13 to the little hole next to hole X, not hole X itself.  All working now,
covers going back on!

Thanks a lot

73 Stephen


On 9/12/07 21:48, "David Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a recent message, Stephen Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...
>> One more thing I have just noticed - I do have power out on ssb, about 20W
>> as measured externally, but the power control still does not have any
>> effect.  On Tune and CW, there is no externally measure power output on any
>> band, whatever the position of the power control.
>> 
>> What have I done?!  :-((
> 
> My guess is that it is something to do with the connection of the
> screened cable connecting the two pads on the underside of the main
> board. Make sure you have the connections at the right places. I seem to
> remember this was quite tricky to get right.  I think it's just a matter
> of rechecking the installation steps on page 9 of the manual (in my Rev
> A March 15 2004).  Good luck and let us know when you find the problem.
> 
> 73



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[Elecraft] Correction - Better drivers for "Phillips" screws

2007-12-09 Thread Ken Kopp

It's actually "Pozidriv" ...

Ken - K0PP


- Original Message - 
From: Ken Kopp 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, 09 December, 2007 21:49

Subject: Better drivers for "Phillips" screws


While not a "Phillips" screwdriver, those made
for "Posidriv" screws are better for "Phillips" screws.

Yes, I'm well-aware of the difference in the two ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Elecraft] Better drivers for "Phillips" screws

2007-12-09 Thread Ken Kopp

While not a "Phillips" screwdriver, those made
for "Posidriv" screws are better for "Phillips" screws.

Yes, I'm well-aware of the difference in the two ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Paul






It may also be helpful to mention that using the correct size philips head
is very important in maintaining the appearance of the rig. It's 
worth the rip

to the tool store with a screw in your pocket to get a new driver with a
large  enough tip to fit snuggly.  There is such a wide variety of 
screwdrivers

available, that even the size number printed on the driver is not a good
indication. I've had many a #1 driver with too sharp a tip to get a 
tight fit,  the

result is slippage and a damaged screw head and loose screw. The K3
flatheads are very shallow because of the type of head and they will 
slip easily  with

a #0 or 'sharp' #1.


You can lightly touch the tip to a fine grinding wheel to fix that on 
a cheap screwdriver.




I prefer the better brands like Craftsmen and Proto. OSH (Orchards) has a
house brand that is good. I picked up a couple with 6" shank which 
was helpful

when I installed the kpa3 shield.


My favorite brand for high quality is Wiha www.WihaTools.com which 
are made in Germany.






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Re: [Elecraft] FW: K60XV no tx power problem

2007-12-09 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Stephen Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...

One more thing I have just noticed - I do have power out on ssb, about 20W
as measured externally, but the power control still does not have any
effect.  On Tune and CW, there is no externally measure power output on any
band, whatever the position of the power control.

What have I done?!  :-((


My guess is that it is something to do with the connection of the 
screened cable connecting the two pads on the underside of the main 
board. Make sure you have the connections at the right places. I seem to 
remember this was quite tricky to get right.  I think it's just a matter 
of rechecking the installation steps on page 9 of the manual (in my Rev 
A March 15 2004).  Good luck and let us know when you find the problem.


73
--
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread AJSOENKE
It may also be helpful to mention that using the correct size philips head  
is very important in maintaining the appearance of the rig. It's worth the rip  
to the tool store with a screw in your pocket to get a new driver with a 
large  enough tip to fit snuggly.  There is such a wide variety of screwdrivers 
 
available, that even the size number printed on the driver is not a good  
indication. I've had many a #1 driver with too sharp a tip to get a tight fit,  
the 
result is slippage and a damaged screw head and loose screw. The K3  
flatheads are very shallow because of the type of head and they will slip 
easily  with 
a #0 or 'sharp' #1. 
 
I prefer the better brands like Craftsmen and Proto. OSH (Orchards) has a  
house brand that is good. I picked up a couple with 6" shank which was helpful  
when I installed the kpa3 shield. 
 
A well fitting screwdriver will hold an undamaged philips screw without  
needing a magnet.
 
Al WA6VNN



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[Elecraft] FW: K60XV no tx power problem

2007-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
One more thing I have just noticed - I do have power out on ssb, about 20W
as measured externally, but the power control still does not have any
effect.  On Tune and CW, there is no externally measure power output on any
band, whatever the position of the power control.

What have I done?!  :-((



-- Forwarded Message
From: Stephen  Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:30:46 +
To: elecraft 
Conversation: K60XV no tx power problem
Subject: K60XV no tx power problem

I have just spent the afternoon here putting the K60XV board in my K2 s/no.
4930.  It works fine on rx and tests out okay until I get to the part on
page 13 where I have to set to 2W and peak C1 and C2 on the 60 metre board.

I have no power output, nothing registered on a 5W fsd external meter and
full scale deflection on the K2's meter with 19.1 Watts shown irrespective
of the position of the power control.  The same behaviour is seen on every
other band.  Yet the rx works fine on all bands.  At this point I have the
K2 bare except for ssb and noise blanker modules, and of course the K60XV -
the KAT2 and KIO2 are still sitting in the top lid on the floor beside me.

I have checked everything that I have done at least once.  There is about 90
ohms between the collector(s) of the PA transistors and ground.

Anyone have any ideas please?

Thanks

Stephen G4SJP

-- End of Forwarded Message



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Impedance

2007-12-09 Thread AJSOENKE
Also look in Table on Pg 49  Main Menu Table under MIC SEL for  the specific 
settings.
 
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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Craig Rairdin
You should be fine unless you're storing a copy of the firmware on a floppy
disk near your assembly area. ;-)

Craig
NZ0R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Pratt
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:19 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly


In a recent message, Corboy-Poteet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...
>This may be common sense and/or mentioned in the Assembly Manual but:
>if your Phillips screwdriver does not have a magnetized tip it would
>be a good idea to find a magnet and lightly magnetize the tip.

Ah, but mind you don't erase the firmware ;-)

73
-- 
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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[Elecraft] Just heard K0PP on 14.033 MHz

2007-12-09 Thread David Fleming
Ur 5nn in VA, Ken. The K3 sounds great!! I would give
you a shout but I'm knee deep in code at the moment.

73,

David W4SMT
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[Elecraft] K60XV no tx power problem

2007-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
I have just spent the afternoon here putting the K60XV board in my K2 s/no.
4930.  It works fine on rx and tests out okay until I get to the part on
page 13 where I have to set to 2W and peak C1 and C2 on the 60 metre board.

I have no power output, nothing registered on a 5W fsd external meter and
full scale deflection on the K2's meter with 19.1 Watts shown irrespective
of the position of the power control.  The same behaviour is seen on every
other band.  Yet the rx works fine on all bands.  At this point I have the
K2 bare except for ssb and noise blanker modules, and of course the K60XV -
the KAT2 and KIO2 are still sitting in the top lid on the floor beside me.

I have checked everything that I have done at least once.  There is about 90
ohms between the collector(s) of the PA transistors and ground.

Anyone have any ideas please?

Thanks

Stephen G4SJP



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[Elecraft] OT - the non-magnetic "magnetic" screwdriver

2007-12-09 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Interesting reading.  Here's my decades-old trick that always works well.

I used a small piece of electrical or masking tape.  I place the
screw/other hardware into the tip of the screwdriver and do a wrap of
tape so that the edge of the tape just grabs onto the head/washer.
The rest wraps around the screwdriver shaft.

All you need to do is to START the screen until it catches for a turn
or two.  Then a slight up-pull on the screwdriver allows you to remove
the tape (which is now stuck to the screwdriver and not the hardware)
while keeping the hardware in place.  Then just go back with the
screwdriver with finish tightening her up.

I must admit, that I use this method for really hard to get to places
where I need a long (often very long) screwdriver shaft.  But it also
works quite nicely for very tight places.  No worries about the
magnetized tip doing any damage.

Just be sure to withdraw the screwdriver BEFORE you make the screw too
tight or the tape will get "left behind" when you withdraw the
screwdriver.

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
A very inexpensive tool which I have found to be ideal for getting screws, 
nuts and washers into tight corners is a thing called a 'Grabber', the one 
that I have resembles a fat plastic trim tool 4 1/2 inches long and 1/4 inch 
diameter. At one end is a spring loaded plunger which when pushed down by 
one's thumb causes three spring legs to poke out of the other end which are 
used to hold a screw, a screw plus washer, a nut or any other small item up 
to 1/2 inch across. It becomes dead easy to fit hardware in difficult to 
reach places using a 'Grabber'. It cost me about two US dollars IIRC maybe 
30 years ago from an outfit similar to Radio Shack.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

Dave Yarnes  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on
Sunday, December 09, 2007 5:28 PM

Finally, when mounting the KPA3 to the shield, I think you will find that 
it is very difficult to get your fingers (fat or otherwise) in where you 
can get the screws to seat into the hole for tightening.  You probably 
would be wise to use a screwdriver that is magnetic so that you can move 
the screw down over the hole and begin to screw it in.


 


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[Elecraft] K3 AFX Feature

2007-12-09 Thread Dave Yarnes

Hi All,

As most of you probably know, the K3 incorporates a feature called "AFX", 
which is similar to stereo reception.  It is a DSP function, and I am 
finding it to be very beneficial.  You can read a brief description of it on 
P. 33 of the owner's manual.  As described, it does indeed make listening 
less fatiguing, or seemingly so.  But the real benefit I am finding is in 
readibility of many signals.  On SSB, many signals are definitely enhanced 
by using this feature.  It does seem to depend somewhat on just what kind of 
audio is being provided by the other station.  In other words, the benefit 
of AFX seems more pronounced on some signals as opposed to others.  The same 
occurs on CW.


If you don't have your K3 yet, but do happen to have a Heil headset with 
their phase switching feature, you can get some idea about what I am talking 
about.  But the K3's AFX feature is substanially more pronounced as to 
benefit.  AFX really seems to make some signals jump right up, and 
significantly more pleasant to listen to, besides making a signal more 
readable.  It seems particularly effective if you have any kind of noise 
level.


So, in case you were wondering, AFX is not just a "gee whiz" feature.  It 
truly does very good things.


Dave W7AQK


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Re[2]: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Corboy-Poteet
One advantage of the magnetized driver tip is that it will
simultaneously hold both the screw and the lock washer in those cases
which require a lock washer under the screw head.

The hex nuts can be a bother; made me wish Elecraft had the old
plastic tool that Heathkit used to include that gripped the hex nut
while the screw was started. Luckily, the vast majority of screws in
the K3 go into prethreaded bushings.  Of course some of these you also
install but in most cases it's on a board or panel that is not mounted
in the box yet so it isn't a problem.

Mike   W5FTD








>> This may be common sense and/or mentioned in the Assembly Manual but:
>> if your Phillips screwdriver does not have a magnetized tip it would
>> be a good idea to find a magnet and lightly magnetize the tip. The K3
>> is not tiny but it is close quarters inside. In many cases having the
>> screwdriver magnetic field hold the screw (and the washer) sure beats
>> trying to place the screw with your fingers (as I finally realized).

>> Mike   W5FTD

> 
> I have found that a small long nose pliers works well for holding nuts or
> machine screws in place while applying torque to the other end.
> 73
> Rick Dettinger
> K7MW
> K3 # (n-?)




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Rick Dettinger



> This may be common sense and/or mentioned in the Assembly Manual but:
> if your Phillips screwdriver does not have a magnetized tip it would
> be a good idea to find a magnet and lightly magnetize the tip. The K3
> is not tiny but it is close quarters inside. In many cases having the
> screwdriver magnetic field hold the screw (and the washer) sure beats
> trying to place the screw with your fingers (as I finally realized).

> Mike   W5FTD


I have found that a small long nose pliers works well for holding nuts or
machine screws in place while applying torque to the other end.
73
Rick Dettinger
K7MW
K3 # (n-?)


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[Elecraft] K2 trimmer capacitors.

2007-12-09 Thread Thomas
Hi.
I'm installing the trimmer capacitors on the band pass filter part of K2 now.
The capacitors I have got is some blue plastic capacitors in stead of the 30pF 
ceramic trimmers.
Is this corect or should I continue to look for some other capacitors? There is 
no text on the blue capacitors.

73de 
Thomas LA3PNA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Corboy-Poteet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...

This may be common sense and/or mentioned in the Assembly Manual but:
if your Phillips screwdriver does not have a magnetized tip it would
be a good idea to find a magnet and lightly magnetize the tip.


Ah, but mind you don't erase the firmware ;-)

73
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Impedance

2007-12-09 Thread Dave Yarnes
I rather think a low impedence mike is generally preferred.  Note the pinout 
information on P. 13 of the manual where a low impedence mike (approx. 600 
ohms) is indicated.  However, the K3 can be used with either high or low 
impedence microphones, and that is dealt with via a menu setting.  See P. 20 
of the owners manual, left column, last paragraph.


Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Impedance



I am sure that this is covered somewhere, but I can not find it. What
impedance microphone is required for optimal performance with the K3
and what is the permissible range?

Thanks
Bob

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Ian GM3SEK asked:

Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the kit?

---

No, the folks organizing the kit packaged the parts roughly by assembly such
a front panel, KIO3 Interface, etc. The assembly manual illustrated parts
list is broken down to show what parts are in each package. In this case,
both flat head screws and pan head screws are in the "K3 Miscellaneous Bag"
containing much of the enclosure hardware.

That's why we specify the specific size and type of screw and show a picture
of where each one goes throughout the manual.

In this case I think it's clear more emphasis on the bottom screws being PAN
head screws is justified and should appear in future revisions of the
manual.

However, it's very important to read and check off every step in the
procedure and, if something doesn't fit right, the first thing to do is to
go back and read the step and look at the picture again.


Thanks, Ron and everyone. It won't be a problem here, as both the 
assembly work and the completed rig will be shared with my wife, who is 
sure to enjoy sorting out the screws.



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[Elecraft] [K3] Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Corboy-Poteet
This may be common sense and/or mentioned in the Assembly Manual but:
if your Phillips screwdriver does not have a magnetized tip it would
be a good idea to find a magnet and lightly magnetize the tip. The K3
is not tiny but it is close quarters inside. In many cases having the
screwdriver magnetic field hold the screw (and the washer) sure beats
trying to place the screw with your fingers (as I finally realized).

Mike   W5FTD








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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Dave Yarnes

Hi All,

One bag of parts, the "miscellaneous bag" I think, has most of the screws 
used in the assembly.  Other accessories and parts do often include 
additional hardware necessary for assembly of that part.  But generally, you 
are digging screws from the general package.  With 20/20 hindsight, I would 
recommend that you separate all the hardware carefully into muffin tin 
compartments.  I spent way too much time carefully measuring each screw with 
a ruler--the 3/16 inch screws are hard to distinguish from the 1/4 inch, 
etc.  You have flat head screws, black pan head screws, zinc pan head 
screws, and in varying sizes.  Then you have different types of washers 
also.  Most other parts are readily identifiable, but the screws and washers 
can be a little confusing.  You probably will have a few extra as well, and 
the manual makes note of that fact.


Also, when you add the KPA3 shield and amp, you will actually change a few 
pieces of hardware.  So take care when you get to that step.


As noted earlier, the bottom panels are not countersunk, and use panhead 
screws rather than flathead screws.


While I'm at it, I will pass on a couple of very small glitches I ran into. 
One was attaching the plastic cover which goes over the LCD display.  I had 
a little trouble exactly matching the holes in the cover with the holes on 
the front panel.  It made it difficult to get the screws to catch, but 
eventually it all worked.


When attaching the control board to the front panel, I found it a bit tricky 
to get the microphone jack to slide fully through the hole in the front 
panel.  The manual also makes mention of this.  I didn't have to do any 
reaming or anything, but it does take a little careful jiggling to get the 
microphone connector to fully pass through the hole.


Finally, when mounting the KPA3 to the shield, I think you will find that it 
is very difficult to get your fingers (fat or otherwise) in where you can 
get the screws to seat into the hole for tightening.  You probably would be 
wise to use a screwdriver that is magnetic so that you can move the screw 
down over the hole and begin to screw it in.  The required washer can be 
places over the hole by just sliding them into position using the small 
slots on the side where the screwholes are located.  But those slots aren't 
big enough to do the same with the screw itself.  But using a magnetic 
tipped screwdriver also can cause a small problem as you approach the 
screwhole where you have already placed the washer.  The washer wants to 
move due to the magnetic attraction.  So you have to "aim and shoot" 
somewhat deftly.  But it works.  Somebody else probably has a much simpler 
solution to this.


Overall, I think the K3 goes together quite nicely.  Everything fits!  Just 
be sure to mate and seat connectors properly.  You are told when a connector 
might not seat 100%.  The little jumper cables, like the ones from the coax 
connectors, have pin conncetors on them, and you need to make sure you fully 
mate those as well.


Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: "Ian White GM3SEK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel



Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
If you read the step or look at the illustrations you'll see what size 
screw to use and exactly where to use PAN heads and FLAT heads.


Mixing up hardware will do more than produce an ugly K3, it can cause 
short circuits, bent PC boards and a variety of other not-so-nice 
situations. That's why each step is very specific about the exact hardware 
to use, but you really have to read the steps!




Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the kit?


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Re: [Elecraft] RX side by side comparisons of K3 and Orion (II)

2007-12-09 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:20:38 +, you wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>has anyone made receiver side by side comparisons of a K3 and a TenTec 
>Orion/Orion II?
>As far as I know the conversion principle of both transceivers is quite 
>similar. I'm not sure about the concept of roofing filters...
>
>As one may expect an improvement because of the newer design of the K3 
>against the Orion, is this remarkable in contest situations e.g.?
>
>Any comment is appreciated and may be also interesting for other list 
>readers.
>
>
>73 de Henning, DL1OJ
>(k2 #1444, k3 # 2nd prod. run)

I have an Orion II to compare the K3 to.  When I receive the K3 (late Jan) I
will make RX comparisons.  I'm hoping that the K3 does not suffer from the RX
hiss the Orion II suffers when not connected to an antenna.

As to changing bands;  The only time I change bands rapidly is when using
cluster reports.  The remote control of modern rigs solves the band change issue
for me, so, although having band change buttons is more convenient it's not an
issue for me.

In addition the Orion II Main and Sub receivers are not synched well.  It is
irritating to set B to the frequency of A and hear the resulting warble caused
by the 6hz mismatch between the VFOs when listening to both.  I've never
experienced this on any other rig with two VFOs.  I believe the K3 doesn't
suffer from this issue.
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ian GM3SEK asked:

Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the kit?

---

No, the folks organizing the kit packaged the parts roughly by assembly such
a front panel, KIO3 Interface, etc. The assembly manual illustrated parts
list is broken down to show what parts are in each package. In this case,
both flat head screws and pan head screws are in the "K3 Miscellaneous Bag"
containing much of the enclosure hardware. 

That's why we specify the specific size and type of screw and show a picture
of where each one goes throughout the manual.

In this case I think it's clear more emphasis on the bottom screws being PAN
head screws is justified and should appear in future revisions of the
manual. 

However, it's very important to read and check off every step in the
procedure and, if something doesn't fit right, the first thing to do is to
go back and read the step and look at the picture again.

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] K3 Microphone Impedance

2007-12-09 Thread Bob
I am sure that this is covered somewhere, but I can not find it. What
impedance microphone is required for optimal performance with the K3
and what is the permissible range?

Thanks
Bob

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Sanger, Joseph
I initially made the EXACT same mistake ... but after a few moments of
reflection, realizing that something just didn't 'smell right', I
re-read the assembly manual carefully ... and sorted it out.  Not a big
deal!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon & Lois
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> Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the kit?

Ian,

They are not packaged separately.  While it is a bit of an effort to
located
the correct screw amongst the others, my problem was in not reading "pan
head" which was in bold letters and assuming flat head.  No amount of
packaging could have helped me.

Gordon, KA2NLM 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Invoice confirmation - YES!

2007-12-09 Thread Stewart Baker
As I ordered mine on the same day, can't be long now...

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:24:04 +, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> I received my Invoice confirmation at 23:58 last night (Sat) - so Aptos are
> burning weekends to. Ordered 2-May @ 15:45z.
> Added lots of 'bits' to it over the period from then until now.
> Shipping in 7-10 days by UPS Express.
> Will notify when it arrives.


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[Elecraft] [K3] Invoice confirmation - YES!

2007-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I received my Invoice confirmation at 23:58 last night (Sat) - so Aptos are
burning weekends to. Ordered 2-May @ 15:45z.
Added lots of 'bits' to it over the period from then until now.
Shipping in 7-10 days by UPS Express.
Will notify when it arrives.
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Re: [Elecraft] RX side by side comparisons of K3 and Orion (II)

2007-12-09 Thread K4IA
I can compare the Orion 1 to the K3.

Size  - the Orion is a suitcase, the K3 is a lunch box -much smaller and  
lighter.  As a result the K3s buttons and knobs are smaller and closer  
together. 
 The K3 is portable, the Orion is not.

Bandscope - the  Orion's may be primitive but it works.  The K3s will be a 
separate unit and  is still planned for the future.  Someone may come up with a 
box to attach  to a computer monitor.

Price - you'll have to add that up yourself.   

Ease of use issues:

Orion has one button band switching and 4  stacking registers.  The K3 cycles 
through the bands and has  memories.

Orion is 2 button pushes to change mode, K3 cycles  through  modes.

Orion has a low power tuning function that makes it  easier to pre-tune your 
amplifier.  This is a firmware upgrade planned for  the K3.

In my opinion, the K3s bandwidth adjustments are much easier to  use.  I have 
never gotten used to the Orion's.  

Some functions  are not as handy on the K3 because they are in a menu but 
they are functions you  don't tend to change much.  Most functions in the Orion 
are no more than  two button pushes and a knob adjustment.  On the other hand, 
a lot of  functions you do change are activated on the K3 by pushing the 
adjustment knob  and that makes more sense and is easier to follow than the 
Orion's 
menu  selection and multifunction knob.

Firmware:
Orion 1 had never been  "right."  It is better now as the mysterious crashing 
seems to be  cured.  The latest versions do not implement NR very well (if at 
all) and  TT may be done with any further improvements.  The K3 is very good 
as it is  and Elecraft is working to add features. I feel better being on the 
edge of an  improving product.

Receiver
I think the specs give the advantage to  the K3 and I haven't had mine long 
enough to test it in all conditions.  I  do think the K3 sounds better.  I have 
the 500hz roofing filter in the K3  and a 600hz in the Orion's 1khz slot 
(that is to solve another TT design issue  that is too complicated to go into 
here 
but was fixed in the Orion 2).  The  K3 seems to resolve close-in loud 
interference better but the difference is  marginal.  

Summary
I think they are very close in  performance.  I give the edge to the K3 but 
it is slight.  I would say  the decision between the two is driven more by the 
"ease of use" issues.   Both companies have reputations for good customer 
service but I would say  Elecraft's is superior.

k4ia
Craig "Buck"
Fredericksburg, Virginia  USA  




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Gordon & Lois Duff
> Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the kit?

Ian,

They are not packaged separately.  While it is a bit of an effort to located
the correct screw amongst the others, my problem was in not reading "pan
head" which was in bold letters and assuming flat head.  No amount of
packaging could have helped me.

Gordon, KA2NLM 

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[Elecraft] K3 Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Barry N1EU
FYI, there's a summary of K3 assembly concerns that have been posted
to the reflector on the K3 Wiki at
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Kit_Building_-_Specific_Concerns/Advice

The intention is for future K3 builders to be able to go to one place
and get everyone's advice without having to search through the
archives.

73,
Barry N1EU


>On another point, there was criticism of someone posting an assembly
question to the reflector. That is the whole point of the reflector,
simple "how does it fit" or "where does that go" questions are easily
resolved, often in a few minutes at almost at any time of the day,
without needing to bother Elecraft Support who can then spend time on
more important matters, like getting K3s out the door!
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[Elecraft] K3 Assembly

2007-12-09 Thread Dave G4AON

Ian GM3SEK asked "Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the 
kit?"


No, the "nuts and bolts" are bundled together for each module/assembly 
in an envelope or bag. Sorting them is relatively easy as there aren't 
that many per assembly stage. I cut the bottom off a cardboard box to 
form a shallow tray around 1 inch high, then glued separators into the 
box with hot melt glue and finally labelling the compartments by bolt 
length, etc. Others have used egg trays for the same purpose. It's not a 
big job and doesn't need to be complicated.


On another point, there was criticism of someone posting an assembly 
question to the reflector. That is the whole point of the reflector, 
simple "how does it fit" or "where does that go" questions are easily 
resolved, often in a few minutes at almost at any time of the day, 
without needing to bother Elecraft Support who can then spend time on 
more important matters, like getting K3s out the door!


73 Dave, G4AON
K1 #1154, K2/10 #1892 and K3/100 #80
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - 10 meter contest

2007-12-09 Thread G3YMC

A lot better than in G land. Left the receiver running on 28020 yesterday and
a couple of times signals popped out of the noise but had disappeared again
before I could copy their callsigns. Effectively zilch - and I won the QRP G
certificate last year with a massive 18 QSOs...

73 Dave G3YMC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly - rear panel

2007-12-09 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
If you read the step or look at the illustrations you'll see what size 
screw to use and exactly where to use PAN heads and FLAT heads.


Mixing up hardware will do more than produce an ugly K3, it can cause 
short circuits, bent PC boards and a variety of other not-so-nice 
situations. That's why each step is very specific about the exact 
hardware to use, but you really have to read the steps!




Are the different types of screws packaged separately in the kit?


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