[Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 12:12 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: There were some microphones produced for the communications market back then such as the famous Astatic D-104 which had a microphone element with a shaped response showing a distinct hump around 3 kHz, rolling off slowly at lower frequencies and somewhat faster at higher frequencies. That hump helped with articulation by emphasizing the mid-range speech frequencies. This is a presence peak. I don't know if anyone is doing that today for mainstream communications microphones. Today Paging Microphones are still specifically designed to have this pronounced mid range presence peak and also usually include Quite a bit of low frequency Roll off Shure have a range of dynamic elements available for this market, that have response curves that look remarkably similar to the HC4 and HC5 elements. take a look at the response curve of the Shure 450 http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_450SeriesII_content a direct link to just the curve http://www.shure.com/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_us/documents/web_resource/site_img_us_rc_450series2_larg.gif the 522 has a broader presence peak http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_522_content Direct to curve http://www.shure.com/stellent/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_us/documents/web_resource/site_img_us_rc_522_large.gif elements for these mics (and many others) are available at low cost as replacement parts. Heil sound plot their curves on a different log scale but after accounting for that the similarities are remarkable. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/products/hc4/index.htm The needs of paging systems which include efficient use of limited power and maximum intelligibility in noisy environments are pretty much identical to our requirements for effective SSB modulation. Any well made paging/ Dispatch mic (or element..) is ideal for amateur radio use, most are far more durable and cost effective than 'the made for ham radio' stuff that is popular these days. Even the high end Ham mics only offer general and uninformative comments about shaping and clarity that say much and convey little. These words (in ham radio use anyway) have become marketing speak and now mean nothing. As a former audio professional I cannot understand why all the hype about Audio in ham radio and to my ears there's a lot of money wasted on trying to make SSB into something it isn't. Interestingly, one of the big exceptions is the inexpensive little Radio Shack electret element. It comes with a frequency response chart showing a very flat response across the audio spectrum. If you are looking for flat then these are a great place to start, however the design of the housing may have quite an impact on how things sound, this can be used to your advantage to create a presence peak or LF roll off. My own headset is based on a salvaged electret condenser mic with some audio tailoring done by means of a simple R/C filter, being lazy I copied the circuit of an Icom handmic. It works great and cost me almost nothing. 73's Brendan EI6IZ -- Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
Taking things a step further - it would not be at all difficult to allow other programs to send K3 commands to / from the K3 through another program. This program (server) controls the serial comms and supports an unlimited number of clients. The clients speak to the radio using the radio's native protocol through the server. It's a simple concept, the programming is not too difficult except when talking with some of the older Yaesu radios. Supporting the K3 / Kenwood / ICOM like this would be simple. As for things like split mode - as far as I can remember no ICOM radio supports this via CAT commands, not even the $10k+ IC-7800 :-( Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, every program needs to know the radio status at all times. If one program changes a setting that a second program relies on without notification, nasty things can happen. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Proset-K2
Has anyone in the UK/EU a Proset-K2 they would like to sell? If so I would appreciate hearing from you offlist. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: FS, Icom IC706MKIIG
Early birthday present - My IC-7000 will be here either Friday or Monday. My 706MKIIG is up for sale. It's several years old, in great shape, has never been in a smoking environment and just snagged Ducie island on 160 meters this morning. It comes with the original stuff (power cord, mounting bracket, separation kit including the remote head mounting bracket etc. Original microphone (not the Touch Tone mic). My wife accidentally threw out the original box, but I have the manual and will throw in a copy of the maintenance manual that I downloaded and printed as well. Gonna order my K3 with my tax refund rebate. Asking $525 shipped anywhere in the US. Contact me off list if interested. Jim Sheldon, W0EB, Wichita, KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
Thanks for posting your interesting comments Brendan. Within the context of SSB useage in ham radio I believe that the 'hype about audio' could lead to another related problem, if not already existing, which is poor use of the HF spectrum available to us. Given the proven fact that a SSB transmitter filter bandwidth of 2.1 kHz will result in the transmission of a very 'good quality' speech signal, provided that the carrier is positioned properly and that the mic - audio - modulator system characteristics suit human speech, I see no valid reason for using wider SSB filters. In addition to the increased amount of spectrum used, the use of wider filters followed by linear amplifiers whose IMD products might be only 30db or so below a test tone obviously results in a wider 'Interference Bandwidth', and should be discouraged IMHO. Adding Reverse ALC to the mix can further increase interference. Just an opinion. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Brendan Minish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip These words (in ham radio use anyway) have become marketing speak and now mean nothing. As a former audio professional I cannot understand why all the hype about Audio in ham radio and to my ears there's a lot of money wasted on trying to make SSB into something it isn't. snip ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microphone compatibility
I have tried several mics with my K2 and the best reports are from an old Midland CB hand mic that I got free at a hamfest. It's an ugly old black thing but it works. Ian J Maude wrote: I cannot keep quiet any longer! :) What is all the noise about microphone compatibility? We are radio amateurs, it should be simple enough to wire a microphone for a rig. Just look at the pin outs on the mic and the rig and wire accordingly. The circuitry is not exactly complex! If we buy *any* radio we pretty much know that the mic wiring is going to be different. 4-way, 8-way, RJ45 connectors, the list goes on. What ever the manufacturer decides is the right way for them, this has always been the case. It really is quite simple. Is your microphone a dynamic type? If so, wire it for Kenwood and it will work. Does it need a voltage? Look at the diagrams as I mentioned before. Good grief! Elecraft are building the rigs for us now and we are still moaning! ;) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Microphone-compatibility-tp15451579p15479614.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from their channel. David G3UNA Within the context of SSB useage in ham radio I believe that the 'hype about audio' could lead to another related problem, if not already existing, which is poor use of the HF spectrum available to us. Given the proven fact that a SSB transmitter filter bandwidth of 2.1 kHz will result in the transmission of a very 'good quality' speech signal, provided that the carrier is positioned properly and that the mic - audio - modulator system characteristics suit human speech, I see no valid reason for using wider SSB filters. In addition to the increased amount of spectrum used, the use of wider filters followed by linear amplifiers whose IMD products might be only 30db or so below a test tone obviously results in a wider 'Interference Bandwidth', and should be discouraged IMHO. Adding Reverse ALC to the mix can further increase interference. Just an opinion. 73, Geoff GM4ESD - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
Yes, Simon is describing what I had in mind - a software solution that can be implemented in the near future. Lacking such an RS-232 server program, we're left only able to run one CAT-capable program at a time. Unless your contest logging program implements its own version of cw skimmer or clickable panadapter etc, we won't have these capabilities unless software that will arbitrate access to the serial port from multiple programs is available. 73, Barry N1EU Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: Taking things a step further - it would not be at all difficult to allow other programs to send K3 commands to / from the K3 through another program. This program (server) controls the serial comms and supports an unlimited number of clients. The clients speak to the radio using the radio's native protocol through the server. It's a simple concept, the programming is not too difficult except when talking with some of the older Yaesu radios. Supporting the K3 / Kenwood / ICOM like this would be simple. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3--379-Arrived-tp15444836p15479646.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3s on Ducie
Those K3's on Ducie sure sound good...they have very nice keying characteristics and are obviously not having any problems vacuuming up signals either. Great stuff! The K3 certainly would seem to be the rig of choice for DXpeditions John K5MO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from their channel. Ahmust be one of those advance the technology things that justify contestsgood for everyone. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] VP6DX on 160 Elecraft Mojo
Worked VP6DX this morning on 160... I was running my K2/100 (about 90 watts to the tuner due to some foldback issues) thru the KAT100 into a 55' piece o' wire with a few radials, none any longer than 40'. It was a solid no repeat QSO. Those folks have good ears and they were a solid copy without a Rx antenna on the K2. Don't be afraid to try them, even if you think your antennas are lacking. Worked them on 12M CW as well, been ages since I even heard anyone on 12! GL to all in ARRL DX this weekend. It's looking like a Low Band show. 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Elecraft K2/100 #3311 Elecraft K2/100 #4455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from their channel. I personally would not intentionally transmit a wide signal during a contest. It would, imho, be counterproductive, apart from any other reasons. On the small 40m band in Europe, during large contests, you almost can not avoid stations sitting on top of each other and/or overlapping. Even if I assume that there were no BC stations between 7100kHz and 7200kHz and that a channel is only 2.5kHz wide, between 7040kHz and 7200kHz one only has space for 63 running stations without any conflicts arising, or using the older limits of 7040kHz to 7100kHz space for 23 SSB signals. Here there will always be a certain amount of elbowing going on. If one considers all the high powered phase noise being radiated and so on, then even a 9+20 signal can be a weak signal when compared to 40m contest noise levels. And finding gaps between stations can be a real art. This is why you want to have a signal with a very high average power level, but one which is also not wider than necessary. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Microphones
I know that there has been lots of responses to the microphone compatibility on this forum but let me comment on this subject on a different light. When I first became licensed back in 1957 we were expected to, at the very least, be able to read and interpret schematics, wire up our own rig interconnections, and in a lot of cases build our own equipment. Now days that is not necessarily true for quite a few of our fellow radio amateurs. Because of the above, it can be quite a challenge for some of us to perform the necessary research and rewire our mike connectors for the Elecraft K2/K3 rigs. Many of us would have no problem doing this but we can easily forget that there are those who are dependent on getting the correct mike for the rig or have help in changing their connector's wiring to match a rig. Manufactures are little help as they wire their mic jacks to what pleases them and it is their right to do so. The bottom line is lets help those who need it and not criticize them. and for those who need help get it here or ask a fellow ham. 73 Dave KD1NA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
At 08:28 AM 2/14/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... This is why you want to have a signal with a very high average power level, but one which is also not wider than necessary. That sounds like CW. :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3s on Ducie
I was waiting for them this morning on 40 meters in Kansas...but could not hear them around 5:30 am to 6 am. I checked 80 meters CW and there they were loud and clear on the grey line. Nice signals too on 80 meters which surprised me. I kep telling myself I was hearing a K3. Nice ARe they running any amps? But alasno QSO. Pile up was pretty big and I ran out of time. I had to get to work. Rats! Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microphones
KD1NA We need more of your kind of attitude and true ham spirit. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Microphones I know that there has been lots of responses to the microphone compatibility on this forum but let me comment on this subject on a different light. When I first became licensed back in 1957 we were expected to, at the very least, be able to read and interpret schematics, wire up our own rig interconnections, and in a lot of cases build our own equipment. Now days that is not necessarily true for quite a few of our fellow radio amateurs. Because of the above, it can be quite a challenge for some of us to perform the necessary research and rewire our mike connectors for the Elecraft K2/K3 rigs. Many of us would have no problem doing this but we can easily forget that there are those who are dependent on getting the correct mike for the rig or have help in changing their connector's wiring to match a rig. Manufactures are little help as they wire their mic jacks to what pleases them and it is their right to do so. The bottom line is lets help those who need it and not criticize them. and for those who need help get it here or ask a fellow ham. 73 Dave KD1NA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: OT: FS Icom 706MKIIG
It's already off the market. Thanks for all the interest. Jim - W0EB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] VP6DX on RTTY
Yes! They were solid 599 in WA. Worked them RTTY yesterday using the CW paddles. Too cool! - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Wed Feb 13 19:31 , Lee Buller sent: Got VP6DX on RTTY this evening. Heard them on 20 CW, but the band died. Tomorrow! Nice RTTY Signal. Good copy Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] VP6DX on RTTY
I noticed that too. While the anomally was consitant, it was only happening on the first element upon keydown and it did not happen every time. In fact I could listen for 5-10 minutes without hearing it and then it might occur a couple transmissions in a row. I was thinking a power supply problem as well. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Wed Feb 13 20:31 , Joe Subich, W4TV sent: Got VP6DX on RTTY this evening. Heard them on 20 CW, but the band died. Tomorrow! Nice RTTY Signal. Good copy They've been on both 20 and 30 meter RTTY today/this evening. The K3s sound very good except for the one on 15 Meter CW Wednesday morning - it had a pretty severe whoop on keydown - probably a power issue. I have not heard any other bad signals out of them. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Buller Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:31 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] VP6DX on RTTY Got VP6DX on RTTY this evening. Heard them on 20 CW, but the band died. Tomorrow! Nice RTTY Signal. Good copy Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Decode 1 signal only
I havn't used it yet. But it seems to work on the audio output from the radio. If that's the case it seems it would only decode signals that are in your RX filter BW. Isolating the signal you want and narrowing down the filter should give you what you are looking forI think. :) - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Wed Feb 13 20:45 , zl2hgr sent: Greetings New to group and 1st posting I am having a play with CWskimmer. I would like to know if it possible to set it up to receive only one signal, if so how do I go about it. Cheers Tom Dixon E.P.C # 1101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice saying, Hey, is there room in your head for one more? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13/02/08 8:00 p.m. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Microphone compatibility
I did say _some_ newly licensed... Congrats on the three Elecraft rigs and 20wpm CW; your enthusiasm is to be commended. I look forward to working you. Thanks, David, and sorry, all, for letting that rash message slip into our oasis of civility. It was a frustrating day all around yesterday (but that's still no excuse, just an explanation). I look forward to working you, too! G-land has been very tough from here so far... 73 de chris K6DBG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1: Inp Menu Item Pdn Only Allows Dits
I can guess at 2 possibilities - one is that there was something sticky on the shell of that mono plug which adhered to the wiper in the paddle jack - it only takes a bit of something like the adhesive from electrical tape to do that. The second is that somewhere along the dash signal line, you have a bad solder connection that made contact when it was touched. If you have trouble again, I suggest checking the schematic for everything connected to the dash signal (including connectors) and re-flow the solder. 73, Don W3FPR MGFoster wrote: I turned on the K1 tested to see if the problem still existed - it did. Turned off the K1 unplugged, exposed the bottom of the RF board. Powered up inserted a bent component lead into the Dits Ground - OK. The same on the Dash Ground - OK! Plugged the paddles back in it worked OK. OK, so what happened there? Thanks, ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1: Inp Menu Item Pdn Only Allows Dits
MGFoster Wrote: I turned on the K1 tested to see if the problem still existed - it did. Turned off the K1 unplugged, exposed the bottom of the RF board. Powered up inserted a bent component lead into the Dits Ground - OK. The same on the Dash Ground - OK! Plugged the paddles back in it worked OK. OK, so what happened there? // This is very similar to my experience building K1 #2476 last month. First try with the paddle resulted in strange behavior - can't recall the exact details, but very similar to your experience. After I unplugged and re-plugged a time or two all was well. I also vaguely recall a similar phenomenon when K2# 3777 was built. It almost seems like a micro-controller initial startup hiccup. I'm guessing the notoriously spooky key jack may have had some debris, poor mechanical alignment, stiff contacts, etc. I was particularly careful when soldering the key jack to the board - just enough heat to flow, but not melt the flimsy plastic housing. I've experienced more than one failure of these (both K1 and K2 key and headphone ) jacks so I always keep a spare on-hand. Both rigs are woking A-OK (at the moment) but I do try to limit the in-out cycles as much as possible to delay the inevitable jack failure. Carl WA7CS -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K1%3A--Inp-Menu-Item-Pdn-Only-Allows-Dits-tp15468892p15481259.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1: Inp Menu Item Pdn Only Allows Dits
I'm in the process of building a K1, I'll be sure to check the key jack carefully. I guess it would be best to wire the straight key, which is all I use for now, to a stereo plug anyway. 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:22 AM, crstrode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MGFoster Wrote: I turned on the K1 tested to see if the problem still existed - it did. Turned off the K1 unplugged, exposed the bottom of the RF board. Powered up inserted a bent component lead into the Dits Ground - OK. The same on the Dash Ground - OK! Plugged the paddles back in it worked OK. OK, so what happened there? // This is very similar to my experience building K1 #2476 last month. First try with the paddle resulted in strange behavior - can't recall the exact details, but very similar to your experience. After I unplugged and re-plugged a time or two all was well. I also vaguely recall a similar phenomenon when K2# 3777 was built. It almost seems like a micro-controller initial startup hiccup. I'm guessing the notoriously spooky key jack may have had some debris, poor mechanical alignment, stiff contacts, etc. I was particularly careful when soldering the key jack to the board - just enough heat to flow, but not melt the flimsy plastic housing. I've experienced more than one failure of these (both K1 and K2 key and headphone ) jacks so I always keep a spare on-hand. Both rigs are woking A-OK (at the moment) but I do try to limit the in-out cycles as much as possible to delay the inevitable jack failure. Carl WA7CS -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K1%3A--Inp-Menu-Item-Pdn-Only-Allows-Dits-tp15468892p15481259.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] D-104 and Radio Shack electret element
Lots of mike comments have caused me to remember that I have a D-104. And am waithing for a K3. Has anyone put a Radio Shack electret element into a D-104 and used it on a K3? I want to plug into the rear mike jack. Tips anyone? Thanks. 73, Ty, W1TF K1 #1423 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] D-104 and Radio Shack electret element
Ty, I have not tried an electret element, but I have a Heil HC-5 element in my D-104 frame that I have been quite pleased with. I made my own 'filling' for the much smaller sized element, but Heilsound does sell a kit for just that purpose. Just use connectors for the AF and PTT that mate with the K3 rear connectors and you should be all set. I recommend shielded wire all the way for the AF and AF ground wires. 73, Don W3FPR Ralph Tyrrell wrote: Lots of mike comments have caused me to remember that I have a D-104. And am waithing for a K3. Has anyone put a Radio Shack electret element into a D-104 and used it on a K3? I want to plug into the rear mike jack. Tips anyone? Thanks. 73, Ty, W1TF K1 #1423 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] CW with my new k3
K3/KPA #241 is operational. When transmitting cw, if VOX is active it works, if VOX and QSK are active it works, but if QSK is active without VOX it keys but no indication of power out. The Op Manual seems to say VOX must be on, but I thought with qsk VOX would not be necessary (semantics?). If someone can confirm this to be the case, I would appreciate it. I have made one qso, k3 to k3, vp6dx on 17m cw. Thanks. Joe k1#764 k2#4155 k3#241 ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CW with my new k3
VOX has to be engaged in order to QSK. This is an old issue, but I'm not sure it's a bug or not. Greg, AB7R, would know that. matt, W6NIA k2 #2810, k3 #24 On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:31:58 -0500 (EST), you wrote: K3/KPA #241 is operational. When transmitting cw, if VOX is active it works, if VOX and QSK are active it works, but if QSK is active without VOX it keys but no indication of power out. The Op Manual seems to say VOX must be on, but I thought with qsk VOX would not be necessary (semantics?). If someone can confirm this to be the case, I would appreciate it. I have made one qso, k3 to k3, vp6dx on 17m cw. Thanks. Joe k1#764 k2#4155 k3#241 ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CW with my new k3
Hi Joe, Your K3 is working normally. When in CW mode you must have VOX turned ON to enable CW output power while keying regardless if QSK is selected or not. In this case, while in CW mode, it is semantics. On my 7800 Icom makes a distinction. When in SSB mode it's called VOX and in CW mode it's called BK-IN (Break-in). There's nothing wrong with your K3, Frank - W6NEK K3 312 - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my new k3 K3/KPA #241 is operational. When transmitting cw, if VOX is active it works, if VOX and QSK are active it works, but if QSK is active without VOX it keys but no indication of power out. The Op Manual seems to say VOX must be on, but I thought with qsk VOX would not be necessary (semantics?). If someone can confirm this to be the case, I would appreciate it. I have made one qso, k3 to k3, vp6dx on 17m cw. Thanks. Joe k1#764 k2#4155 k3#241 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CW with my new k3
That is correct. With VOX off, you have to assert some source of PTT (footswitch, XMIT button..etc). - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Thu Feb 14 10:31 , Joe sent: K3/KPA #241 is operational. When transmitting cw, if VOX is active it works, if VOX and QSK are active it works, but if QSK is active without VOX it keys but no indication of power out. The Op Manual seems to say VOX must be on, but I thought with qsk VOX would not be necessary (semantics?). If someone can confirm this to be the case, I would appreciate it. I have made one qso, k3 to k3, vp6dx on 17m cw. Thanks. Joe k1#764 k2#4155 k3#241 ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Not All Hams are Technicians (WAS: Microphones)
Agreed Dave! Hams are not necessarily electronics technicians or engineers. Many simply want to operate with what they feel is the best commercial gear their budget will allow. They are just as much Amateur Radio Operators as the guy who designs his own rigs from scratch. We've always had that disparity among Hams. Decades ago, before radiosporting was popular, those operators were largely traffic-handlers in the days when a telephone call to a city 100 miles away was both expensive and difficult. Hams offered an excellent way for people to pass non-critical messages quickly and efficiently for free and usually much faster than the post. You can go all the way back to the days of spark and find ready-made equipment for those who do not want to build their own gear. They've always been an important part of the hobby. When I got on the air, there were hams with fully factory-built stations from time-honored manufacturers like Hallicrafters, E.F. Johnson, Collins, National, Millen and many others. There were microphones like the venerable D-104 and dozens of others that plugged into the rigs for phone and keys that plugged into the rigs for CW. And, back in the 1950's, some homebrewers were pretty arrogant about the 'appliance operators' on the bands who couldn't read a schematic or build their own gear. Some things never change, Hi! Being able to pass a test for the license and the competency and confidence that comes from actual hand's-on experience are two entirely different things. Those who pass the test might not wish to tackle actually putting that information to work in their shacks. The challenge comes with those who have the interest and are still developing that experience while learning. Every technician and engineer today has passed through that period, whether they are amateurs or professionals. A key part of Ham radio has always been for those who can to help. It's what this reflector is all about. It's what companies like Elecraft are all about, providing kits for those who want to build but who lack the knowledge, time and equipment to do their own design work; kits for fully-functional rigs to simple test equipment to help them built up their shop. We might be seeing a slight shift in the membership here now that Elecraft is providing factory built rigs, but that's been the case of other famous Ham rig manufacturers like E.F. Johnson. All it means is that Elecraft is addressing more of the Ham community with their products. For someone wanting an off-the-shelf microphone, Elecraft provides one for their rigs. Perfect plug 'n play. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I know that there has been lots of responses to the microphone compatibility on this forum but let me comment on this subject on a different light. When I first became licensed back in 1957 we were expected to, at the very least, be able to read and interpret schematics, wire up our own rig interconnections, and in a lot of cases build our own equipment. Now days that is not necessarily true for quite a few of our fellow radio amateurs. Because of the above, it can be quite a challenge for some of us to perform the necessary research and rewire our mike connectors for the Elecraft K2/K3 rigs. Many of us would have no problem doing this but we can easily forget that there are those who are dependent on getting the correct mike for the rig or have help in changing their connector's wiring to match a rig. Manufactures are little help as they wire their mic jacks to what pleases them and it is their right to do so. The bottom line is lets help those who need it and not criticize them. and for those who need help get it here or ask a fellow ham. 73 Dave KD1NA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: Microphones (was electronic product standards)
Brendan wrote: Heil sound plot their curves on a different log scale but after accounting for that the similarities are remarkable. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/products/hc4/index.htm -- Thanks Brendan. I looked for response curves under specifications for the Heil Mics and didn't find any response curves. I didn't think to look for the elements themselves! Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
Agreed... You only get so much area under the curve so why waste it with width when its height that gets you heard? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:29 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards) I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from their channel. I personally would not intentionally transmit a wide signal during a contest. It would, imho, be counterproductive, apart from any other reasons. On the small 40m band in Europe, during large contests, you almost can not avoid stations sitting on top of each other and/or overlapping. Even if I assume that there were no BC stations between 7100kHz and 7200kHz and that a channel is only 2.5kHz wide, between 7040kHz and 7200kHz one only has space for 63 running stations without any conflicts arising, or using the older limits of 7040kHz to 7100kHz space for 23 SSB signals. Here there will always be a certain amount of elbowing going on. If one considers all the high powered phase noise being radiated and so on, then even a 9+20 signal can be a weak signal when compared to 40m contest noise levels. And finding gaps between stations can be a real art. This is why you want to have a signal with a very high average power level, but one which is also not wider than necessary. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] VP6DX on RTTY
Just worked them on 20 RTTY the same way! They are really putting out great sigs on most bands now. I've been trying to snag the guys in Suriname--K8DD, W5JAY, etc. They are using PZ5DD, PZ5AY, and PZ5WW, the latter of which will be their call in the contest. They are using K2's. So far though, they haven't been able to dig me out, and they are a bit weak here too. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Greg - AB7R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VP6DX on RTTY Yes! They were solid 599 in WA. Worked them RTTY yesterday using the CW paddles. Too cool! - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Wed Feb 13 19:31 , Lee Buller sent: Got VP6DX on RTTY this evening. Heard them on 20 CW, but the band died. Tomorrow! Nice RTTY Signal. Good copy Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] VP6DX on 160 Elecraft Mojo
Congratulations, Julius! That pretty much parallels my own experience. I got them on 160M CW with my K2/100 into a top-loaded sloper. When they came back to me, I was not 100% sure whether they sent CFM or QRM. Fortunately, it was the former, and I showed up in their online log. :-) 73, John, WA6L n2wn wrote: Worked VP6DX this morning on 160... I was running my K2/100 (about 90 watts to the tuner due to some foldback issues) thru the KAT100 into a 55' piece o' wire with a few radials, none any longer than 40'. It was a solid no repeat QSO. Those folks have good ears and they were a solid copy without a Rx antenna on the K2. Don't be afraid to try them, even if you think your antennas are lacking. Worked them on 12M CW as well, been ages since I even heard anyone on 12! GL to all in ARRL DX this weekend. It's looking like a Low Band show. 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Elecraft K2/100 #3311 Elecraft K2/100 #4455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/VP6DX-on-160-Elecraft-Mojo-tp15480007p15489381.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Feb 14 - Mar 17, 2008
~ N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR February 14 - March 17, 2008 ~ 80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Each Tuesday to Mar 25 9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ 40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Each Thursday to March 27 9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ Valentine Sprint (PODXS) (PSK-31) ... QRP Category Feb 15, 2000 to Feb 16, 0200 LOCAL TIME Rules: http://www.podxs070.com/ ~ ARRL International DX Contest (CW) ... QRP Category Feb 16, z to Feb 17, 2400z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2008 ~ RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST *** EST: Feb 17, 9 PM to 11 PM UTC: Feb 18, 0200z 0400z Rules: http://fpqrp.net:80/fpqrprun.php ~ MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest *** Feb 23, 1800z to 2200z Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html ~ CQ WW 160-Meter DX Contest (SSB) ... QRP Category Feb 23, z to Feb 24, 2359z Rules: http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html ~ REF (French) SSB Contest Feb 23, 0600z to Feb 24, 1800z Rules: http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/refc.htm ~ UBA DX Contest - Belgium (CW) ... QRP Category Feb 23, 1300z to Feb 24, 1300z Rules: http://www.uba.be/hf_contests/pdf/ubatest_dx.pdf ~ Mississippi QSO Party (Ph/CW) Feb 23, 1500z to Feb 24, 0300z Rules: http://www.arrlmiss.org ~ North American QSO Party (RTTY) Feb 23, 1800z to Feb 24, 0600z Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php ~ Colorado QRP Club Winter QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Contest! Feb 23, 2200z to Feb 24, 0359z Rules: http://www.cqc.org/ ~ High Speed CW Club Contest ... QRP Category Feb 24, 0900z to 1100z and 1500z to 1700z Rules: http://www.dl3bzz.de/html/hscconte.html ~ North Carolina QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... 100W all QSOs Feb 24, 1700z to Feb 25, 0300z Rules: http://www.w4nc.com ~ ARRL International DX Contest (SSB) ... QRP Category Mar 1, z to Mar 2, 2400z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2008 ~ Wake-Up! QRP Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Mar 1, 0600z to 0800z Rules: http://qrp.ru/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=7page=1 ~ Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) ... QRP Contest! EST: Mar 3, 9 PM to 11 PM (First Monday each month) UTC: Mar 4, 0200z to 0400z Rules: http://arsqrp.pbwiki.com:80/Spartan+Sprints ~ *** Daylight saving starts Mar 9 - 0200 AM *** ~ Oklahoma QSO Party (CW/Digital/Phone) ... QRP Category Mar 8, 1400z to Mar 9, 0200z and Mar 9, 1300z to Mar 9, 1900z Rules: http://www.okdxa.org ~ AGCW QRP Contest (CW) ... QRP/QRPp Category Mar 8, 1400z to 2000z Rules: http://www.agcw.org/?Contests ~ Elecraft QSO Party (CW/SSB/Dig) ...QRP Category Mar 8, 1500z to Mar 9, 1500z Rules: http://www.elecraft.com ~ Second Class Operator's Club Marathon Sprint (CW) .. QRP Contest! Mar 8, 1800z to 2400z Rules: http://www.qsl.net/soc/contests.htm ~ Idaho QSO Party (Ph/CW/Dig) ... QRP Category Mar 8, 1900z to Mar 9, 1900z Rules: http://www.nt4tt.com/main_page_link/nt4tt.htm ~ North American Sprint (RTTY) ... QRP Category Mar 9, z to 0400z Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/sprintrules.php ~ SKCC Weekend Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category Mar 9, z to 2400z Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/wknd-sprint-rules.html ~ UBA (Belgian) Spring Contest (CW-80m) ... QRP Category Mar 9, 0700z to
Re: [Elecraft] D-104 and Radio Shack electret element
I have not tried it on the K3, but I have done this many times in the past with other rigs. I know W5JAY has played around with that also on his Pro III, and got very favorable comparisons with his Heil microphones. All you need to do is find some old microphone housing, put in the RS electret element, and wire it appropriately. I think you will be pleasantly surprised! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Ralph Tyrrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: [Elecraft] D-104 and Radio Shack electret element Lots of mike comments have caused me to remember that I have a D-104. And am waithing for a K3. Has anyone put a Radio Shack electret element into a D-104 and used it on a K3? I want to plug into the rear mike jack. Tips anyone? Thanks. 73, Ty, W1TF K1 #1423 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Not All Hams are Technicians (WAS: Microphones)
I very seldom post to this list - taking up even more bandwidth doesn't seem to be what the list needs lately Hi, but this thread sparked a response so I thought I'd share it. Although I was into CB in a big way back in the day (when it was as polite and compliant as we sometimes wish amateur radio was today), college, career, and family intervened until 2006 when I finally became licensed at age 44 (passed my General in 2007, shortly after rushing to pass the code before the requirement was eliminated). At that time I was one of those interested in operating with the best equipment my budget could allow, but I had/have no real electronics experience, other than doing all my own soldering when needed and one summer as a teenager when I worked for a neighbor who was in the process of inventing the first automated wire-wrap assembly line jig. I still remember him trying to beat Ohm's Law into me, without much success. Since becoming licensed, I actually find the pursuit of learning electronics more attractive than operating, most of the time. I seem to be in love with QRP, mostly because of all the opportunities to build. I still don't know what I'm building, but I'm doing everything I can to read, question, and study, and hoping that repetition will help! Currently awaiting my attention at the bench are a Pixie II, a Norcal SMT dummy load, one of each of everything Hamgadgets sells, and a BLT tuner. My goal is to use each as a learning project, taking my time with each one and understanding the purpose each component serves before moving on to the next. The recent QST article Building to Learn couldn't have been more timely. I couldn't wait to build my KX-1 last year, and it turned out great (with some help from Don on the 3080 board!), but I have to admit that my approach did not make it a learning experience. The hurdles these days are time, and access to a willing Elmer who doesn't mind teaching stuff that he's known for 50 or more years to someone new. -- 73, de Mike, KC0KBC -- Original message -- From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed Dave! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 NEED HELP TROUBLESHOOTING
Completed assembly and all was well until problem showed on Tx. It was drawing too much current at 5 watts. Also would not go above 5 watts. I'm not worried about that problem right now as I caused another problem. I removed the control board as suggested in 065 of the guide. Heard relays click as the book said. But when I put the control board back in I lost Rx. I know it worked good on 40 meters as I played with it a few days after alignment II procedure. I can inject a signal on 40 meters and the s meter pegs out but it is just barely audible in the headphones. The side tone audio is ok when I key. It's like the Rx is muted. I can touch pin 2 and 3 of the audio amp and hear finger noise. This Rx problem is not from something installed wrong as it worked fine before I removed the control board. Please somebody tell me I can just push some button and clear up the Rx problem so I can chase the problem on Tx. 73 Rich WB4VFN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 NEED HELP TROUBLESHOOTING
Rich, I suggest you look closely at the connectors between the control board and the RF board for a poorly soldered or unsoldered connection. Especially pins 35 and 36 of control board P2 and RF board J7. Also pins 1, 2 and 5 of control board P3 and RF board J8. These latter AF control pot lines go to RF Board P1 pins 1, 2 and 3 and Front Panel board J1 pins 1, 2, and 3. The reason I suspect an unsoldered connection is that you caused the problem when you removed/re-installed the control board - and in the process, something moved. An unsoldered connection can work just by physical contact for a while, but will break the connection if it is moved. You can use your ohmmeter to check continuity along all these paths - use the schematic to see where the wire starts and ends up. 73, Don W3FPR RICHARD MC KINNEY wrote: I removed the control board as suggested in 065 of the guide. Heard relays click as the book said. But when I put the control board back in I lost Rx. I know it worked good on 40 meters as I played with it a few days after alignment II procedure. I can inject a signal on 40 meters and the s meter pegs out but it is just barely audible in the headphones. The side tone audio is ok when I key. It's like the Rx is muted. I can touch pin 2 and 3 of the audio amp and hear finger noise. This Rx problem is not from something installed wrong as it worked fine before I removed the control board. Please somebody tell me I can just push some button and clear up the Rx problem so I can chase the problem on Tx. 73 Rich WB4VFN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Decode 1 signal only
Greg - AB7R wrote: I havn't used it yet. But it seems to work on the audio output from the radio. If that's the case it seems it would only decode signals that are in your RX filter BW. Isolating the signal you want and narrowing down the filter should give you what you are looking forI think. :) There is a two page write up on this program in the latest RadCom, arrived today. One of the things it mentioned is that the program apparently doesn't work well if any filtering is used. It wants a wide band input taken from the IF, not a regular audio output, or its decoding abilities suffer. Don't ask me why. It's most depressing, reading how the software helped the author spot the exact frequency that successful callers were using, so he could call on the same frequency and make a contact with the DX right away, while others without the software, unable to spot the exact frequency to call on, went unanswered. A key skill that allowed the less well equipped station to get an advantage over those with more power but less operating prowess, has been wiped out by a bit of shareware. :( (To forestall a possible deluge of requests for copies of the article, sorry but I don't posssess a scanner, even if I was willing the RSGB's copyright.) - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Decode-1-signal-only-tp15473995p15491147.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] D-104 and Radio Shack electret element
you might be able to place an electret element in the case and leave the original element in there You'd have to rewire since the astatic has a 3 conductor plug on the mic housing. I have placed an electret ( small ) in front of a dynamic AKG element in my current station microphone, and cannot hear any acoustic interference. bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Hamfest
I am also interested if the K3 will be on display at the Charlotte hamfest this year. If so, that would be a compelling reason for me to go! 73 de Ken - N4OI John Davidson-3 wrote: Was wondering if Elecraft will be at the Charlotte, NC hamfest coming up March 8,9??? Hope to eyeball the K3 there. Got my order in in Jan. W4EQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hamfest-tp15469545p15480050.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3s on Ducie
Yes, the group's CW signals on 20m and 17 during the day have been solid -- but my efforts to grab this new one have not been rewarded with a QSO yet. I was hoping the team would show off the K3's receiver by purposefully pulling the small signals like mine out of the frey. (I did get a good contact with Andy, DL8LAS while he was onboard the ship to the island, however -- THANKS!) So I will continue to pound away with my 100 watts and attic dipole73 de Ken N4OI john.brewer wrote: Those K3's on Ducie sure sound good...they have very nice keying characteristics and are obviously not having any problems vacuuming up signals either. Great stuff! The K3 certainly would seem to be the rig of choice for DXpeditions John K5MO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3s-on-Ducie-tp15479899p15480341.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 #379 minor stumble
I've run into a minor glitch in the assembly of K3 #379. I made it up to the point of doing the 5W Transmitter Gain calibration without a problem. That went fine on every band but 60M, there I get no more than 0.4W and a ERR TxG message when I exit Tune. The installation of the 100W amp and the final steps are on hold until I hear back from K3support which means using the K3 in the ARRL CW contest this weekend is very much in doubt. On the other hand, while waiting for a reply I snagged VP6DX on 17M at about 22:55Z with my trusty K2 for my first QSO with them. 73, Mike WA3KYY K2 #2221 K3 #379 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #379 minor stumble
Per an earlier post by Greg AB7R, try to calibrate on one of the 60 Meter channels such as 5403.5 kHz. Al WB6HPF Michael E. Dobson wrote: I've run into a minor glitch in the assembly of K3 #379. I made it up to the point of doing the 5W Transmitter Gain calibration without a problem. That went fine on every band but 60M, there I get no more than 0.4W and a ERR TxG message when I exit Tune. The installation of the 100W amp and the final steps are on hold until I hear back from K3support which means using the K3 in the ARRL CW contest this weekend is very much in doubt. On the other hand, while waiting for a reply I snagged VP6DX on 17M at about 22:55Z with my trusty K2 for my first QSO with them. 73, Mike WA3KYY K2 #2221 K3 #379 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3--379-minor-stumble-tp15491817p15491917.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: Ducie Is. Mojo
The mojo is real. I'm a believer. Got Ducie Is. on 17m with the first call and 10W SSB. K3 with MH2 mic. Neal WA6OCP K3/10/305 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3s on Ducie
Postscript: Worked first try at 20:00 UTC on 17M today -- K3 RCVR FB -- TNX ES 73 DE KEN - N4OI! N4OI wrote: Yes, the group's CW signals on 20m and 17 during the day have been solid -- but my efforts to grab this new one have not been rewarded with a QSO yet. I was hoping the team would show off the K3's receiver by purposefully pulling the small signals like mine out of the frey. (I did get a good contact with Andy, DL8LAS while he was onboard the ship to the island, however -- THANKS!) So I will continue to pound away with my 100 watts and attic dipole73 de Ken N4OI john.brewer wrote: Those K3's on Ducie sure sound good...they have very nice keying characteristics and are obviously not having any problems vacuuming up signals either. Great stuff! The K3 certainly would seem to be the rig of choice for DXpeditions John K5MO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3s-on-Ducie-tp15479899p15488220.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microphone compatibility
nz0t wrote: I have tried several mics with my K2 and the best reports are from an old Midland CB hand mic that I got free at a hamfest. It's an ugly old black thing but it works. I got one like that from Maplin several years ago. You could run over it with a truck and it wouldn't harm it. I've only ever used it on rare occasions when I've taken the K2 out mobile or portable, but it sure has earned some unsolicited complimentary audio reports. As for plug compatibility, my oldest mic has been rewired so many times the cross-head screws on the plug shell are almost completely burred over. Fortunately since the K2 arrived in the shack several years ago I haven't needed to rewire it. It worked with the K3 with no problem. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Microphone-compatibility-tp15451579p15491563.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
W4TV continued: CI-V also allows for multiple controllers, though I have yet to see any other application that appears to properly implement its CSMA/CD protocol. There is no carrier switching or collision detection in the CI-V protocol. The data packets do not carry any checksum or sequence number both of which are required for CSMA/CD. CI-V is a pure aloha protocol - if the packet gets lost or damaged the originator must resend if it does not get the expected reply. CI-V does have collision detection, as every device can see the serial bus as it sends. That also makes a checksum unnecessary. It is intended that a controller resend a command if a collision is detected, so there is no need for sequence numbers, either. Carrier sense multiple access with collision detection does not mean any more than that - but what I was responding to was the assertion that there is not a single radio that is capable- in either hardware or software - of reliably servicing two different radio control applications. Maybe there isn't, especially if one insists on not working with the radio as the manufacturer intended. 73 HLNY, VR2BrettGraham. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 - 414 Arrived Today
After a small e-mail issue, my K3, serial number 414 arrived today, February 14th. Ordered on May 25 with 50% deposit. 73, Dave N8AG Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer
Several of us have worked Dulcie Island (VP6DX -- seven K3s!) in RTTY mode using the K3's CW-to-RTTY feature. This would be an auspicious occasion to give it a try, if you haven't already. It's quiet easy to do, as explained in one of our Operating Tips. See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer
Hopefully you won't think I cheated, but I put a message in one of the memory cells to use for calling. Working a pile-up can get a bit tiresome sending by hand all the time. So I put DE W7AQK W7AQK W7AQK K K K in memory to do my calling. Then when VP6DX came back (after several tries) I retuned using the paddle. I guess you could even put the sig report response in a memory, but I chose not to. But I have a question! At what baud rate does a message come out of memory on RTTY? On CW its at the rate you have your keyer set. So, should I turn the speed up on RTTY? Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: [Elecraft] VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer Several of us have worked Dulcie Island (VP6DX -- seven K3s!) in RTTY mode using the K3's CW-to-RTTY feature. This would be an auspicious occasion to give it a try, if you haven't already. It's quiet easy to do, as explained in one of our Operating Tips. See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer
Hi Dave, David Yarnes wrote: Hopefully you won't think I cheated, but I put a message in one of the memory cells to use for calling. We planned it this way :) I also recommend that you insert an IM prosign (..--) at the end of any message used in DATA modes to truncate the usual CW-to-DATA timeout from 4 seconds to about 1 second. The IM character is ignored in CW mode. But I have a question! At what baud rate does a message come out of memory on RTTY? On CW its at the rate you have your keyer set. So, should I turn the speed up on RTTY? It's fixed at 45.45 BPS, or about 60 WPM, the most common RTTY standard. The keyer speed control has no impact on this. We may support other standard RTTY speeds in the future. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Decode 1 signal only
Many DX load a set of memory freqs. spread over their announced listening spread and then punch the memory button after each contact, insuring that the DX will not hear a second caller on the same freq. 73Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:54:46 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Decode 1 signal only Greg - AB7R wrote:I havn't used it yet. But it seems to work on the audio output from the radio. If that's the case it seems it would only decode signals that are in your RX filter BW. Isolating the signal you want and narrowing down the filter should give you what you are looking forI think. :)There is a two page write up on this program in the latest RadCom, arrived today. One of the things it mentioned is that the program apparently doesn't work well if any filtering is used. It wants a wide band input taken from the IF, not a regular audio output, or its decoding abilities suffer. Don't ask me why. It's most depressing, reading how the software helped the author spot the exact frequency that successful callers were using, so he could call on the same frequency and make a contact with the DX right away, while others without the software, unable to spot the exact frequency to call on, went unanswered. A key skill that allowed the less well equipped station to get an advantage over those with more power but less operating prowess, has been wiped out by a bit of shareware. :( (To forestall a possible deluge of requests for copies of the article, sorry but I don't posssess a scanner, even if I was willing the RSGB's copyright.) - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Decode-1-signal-only-tp15473995p15491147.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer
- Original Message - From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T. David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer Hi Dave, We planned it this way :) I also recommend that you insert an IM prosign (..--) at the end of any message used in DATA modes to truncate the usual CW-to-DATA timeout from 4 seconds to about 1 second. The IM character is ignored in CW mode. Perfect! Guess I missed that little tidbit in the manual! Works great too. I have now changed my message to include the IM prosign, and it cuts off instantly--doesn't even seem like 1 second--more like a few milliseconds. Previously I had been manually hitting the XMIT button to override the delay. Too bad it doesn't work on CW, as I also have a CQ message. Although I'm not typically a CQer, but I've found that when the band is quiet (particularly 30 meters) calling CQ can liven things up now and then! Thanks for the tip Wayne. Have you thought about having an operating hints class for K3 owners? ( : Maybe at Dayton over wine and cheese! Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer
Dave, There's a growing Operating Tips page on the ELecraft website. :) 73 Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of T. David Yarnes Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:10 PM To: wayne burdick Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer - Original Message - From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T. David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer Hi Dave, We planned it this way :) I also recommend that you insert an IM prosign (..--) at the end of any message used in DATA modes to truncate the usual CW-to-DATA timeout from 4 seconds to about 1 second. The IM character is ignored in CW mode. Perfect! Guess I missed that little tidbit in the manual! Works great too. I have now changed my message to include the IM prosign, and it cuts off instantly--doesn't even seem like 1 second--more like a few milliseconds. Previously I had been manually hitting the XMIT button to override the delay. Too bad it doesn't work on CW, as I also have a CQ message. Although I'm not typically a CQer, but I've found that when the band is quiet (particularly 30 meters) calling CQ can liven things up now and then! Thanks for the tip Wayne. Have you thought about having an operating hints class for K3 owners? ( : Maybe at Dayton over wine and cheese! Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1279 - Release Date: 2/14/2008 6:35 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1279 - Release Date: 2/14/2008 6:35 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
W4TV further continued: CI-V does have collision detection, as every device can see the serial bus as it sends. That also makes a checksum unnecessary. CI-V can only see the data it is sending. Depending on the hardware, it is entirely possible for two devices to be sending on the bus at the same time with the local data masking the remote data. There are no hardware differences involved - a serial bus with one device trying to pull the bus low another device trying to pull the bus high will result in at least one device not seeing what it was expecting to see on the bus. What you describe could happen if the serial bus has been changed, but then that deviates from how the manufacturer intended the product to be used. 73 HLNY, VR2BrettGraham. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of VR2BrettGraham Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:39 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence W4TV continued: CI-V also allows for multiple controllers, though I have yet to see any other application that appears to properly implement its CSMA/CD protocol. There is no carrier switching or collision detection in the CI-V protocol. The data packets do not carry any checksum or sequence number both of which are required for CSMA/CD. CI-V is a pure aloha protocol - if the packet gets lost or damaged the originator must resend if it does not get the expected reply. CI-V does have collision detection, as every device can see the serial bus as it sends. That also makes a checksum unnecessary. It is intended that a controller resend a command if a collision is detected, so there is no need for sequence numbers, either. Carrier sense multiple access with collision detection does not mean any more than that - but what I was responding to was the assertion that there is not a single radio that is capable- in either hardware or software - of reliably servicing two different radio control applications. Maybe there isn't, especially if one insists on not working with the radio as the manufacturer intended. 73 HLNY, VR2BrettGraham. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 8R/keyline-RF Timing Questions
Steve I measured this a couple of years ago and put the info in my notebook. As you mention, 8R transitions 15 ms before rf output. It doesn't transition back again until 5 ms after rf has stopped. The timing is completely independent of the t-r value set in the primary menu. I tried it with t-r=.02 sec and t-r =1.0 sec and the timing was the same. This was in cw mode. I don't have measurements for ssb. I used the info to see if I needed to make external timing circuits for a hb transverter I was building. I didn't. And the transverter works fb. (I did use fast relays though) Hope this helps. 73, Lenny W2BVH Steve Kavanagh wrote: I read on this forum that there is about 15 milliseconds delay between the transition of the 8R line from receive to transmit (and hence of the key out lines in the KPA100 and K60XV) and the beginning of RF output. I have a couple of questions with respect to this delay: (1) Does this apply on both CW and SSB ? (2) What happens on the transmit-to-receive transition ? Does RF cease before or at the same time as the 8R line or is there a similar delay ? Just pondering how to interface various non-elecraft transverterscan anyone advise ? 73, Steve VE3SMA Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] D-104 and Radio Shack electret element
The Astatic crystal element exactly fits the lollipop housing. It's THAT big! But it's no problem to remove and rewire. The lollipop top even unplugs from the stand. Unlike a lot of modern desk and hand mics, the D-104 was designed around the element, rather than coming up with a design for the case and plunking the element inside! That was true of most of the old microphones. For example, the Heil Heritage microphone is a copy of the old ribbon microphones used for broadcasting in the 1930's and 40's. The long, tall shape of the enclosure was dictated by the shape of the microphone inside, which used, literally, a ribbon of flexible metal in a magnetic field. Another enclosure for the same ribbon element is the Heil Classic that was another 'standard' in broadcasting studios everywhere. In both cases, the pop screen so often seen put in front of the microphone today is part of the mic and dictates the separation from the grille and the element inside. It's placed just inside the metal openings. Similarly, the more round mics were either miniature crystal elements or dynamic elements which were that size! Heil has used these designs for good reason. People associate those mics with quality and performance, based on old associations. Heil can use them because today's elements are so small they can be put inside almost any traditional enclosure. Even the most technical of us still responds to fashion -- at least some of us do. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- you might be able to place an electret element in the case and leave the original element in there You'd have to rewire since the astatic has a 3 conductor plug on the mic housing. I have placed an electret ( small ) in front of a dynamic AKG element in my current station microphone, and cannot hear any acoustic interference. bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: VP6DX RTTY QSOs on the K3 -- without a computer
you can just put you call into the memory space with the IM... then hitting it several times, as many as you need for repeat ( chaining ) ... the display even tells you it's chaining the memory hits together; then take over with the paddle... got ducie rtty today ... on 20 ... I discovered it dropped the im on cw ... by experimenting in the test mode...guess i could have read it somewhere. still learniing... com'on ballistic vfo control bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 #325 Ducie !
Worked Ducie on 7MHz SSB and CW, great signals ! 0500-0530 UTC 73, Deni F5VJC K2 1188 K3 325 - 73, Deni F5VJC K2 1188 K3 325 For a Ham Radio friendly holiday in France... Visit www.mycottageinbrittany.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3--325-%3C%3E-Ducie-%21-tp15495244p15495244.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)
I read years ago that speech processors like pre-emphasized audio (louder highs, quieter lows). And the heavier the processing the more pre-emphasis is optimum. Does anyone know if the K3 speech processor does that automatically? Al N1AL On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 01:52, Brendan Minish wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 12:12 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: There were some microphones produced for the communications market back then such as the famous Astatic D-104 which had a microphone element with a shaped response showing a distinct hump around 3 kHz, rolling off slowly at lower frequencies and somewhat faster at higher frequencies. That hump helped with articulation by emphasizing the mid-range speech frequencies. This is a presence peak. I don't know if anyone is doing that today for mainstream communications microphones. Today Paging Microphones are still specifically designed to have this pronounced mid range presence peak and also usually include Quite a bit of low frequency Roll off Shure have a range of dynamic elements available for this market, that have response curves that look remarkably similar to the HC4 and HC5 elements. take a look at the response curve of the Shure 450 http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_450SeriesII_content a direct link to just the curve http://www.shure.com/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_us/documents/web_resource/site_img_us_rc_450series2_larg.gif the 522 has a broader presence peak http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_522_content Direct to curve http://www.shure.com/stellent/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_us/documents/web_resource/site_img_us_rc_522_large.gif elements for these mics (and many others) are available at low cost as replacement parts. Heil sound plot their curves on a different log scale but after accounting for that the similarities are remarkable. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/products/hc4/index.htm The needs of paging systems which include efficient use of limited power and maximum intelligibility in noisy environments are pretty much identical to our requirements for effective SSB modulation. Any well made paging/ Dispatch mic (or element..) is ideal for amateur radio use, most are far more durable and cost effective than 'the made for ham radio' stuff that is popular these days. Even the high end Ham mics only offer general and uninformative comments about shaping and clarity that say much and convey little. These words (in ham radio use anyway) have become marketing speak and now mean nothing. As a former audio professional I cannot understand why all the hype about Audio in ham radio and to my ears there's a lot of money wasted on trying to make SSB into something it isn't. Interestingly, one of the big exceptions is the inexpensive little Radio Shack electret element. It comes with a frequency response chart showing a very flat response across the audio spectrum. If you are looking for flat then these are a great place to start, however the design of the housing may have quite an impact on how things sound, this can be used to your advantage to create a presence peak or LF roll off. My own headset is based on a salvaged electret condenser mic with some audio tailoring done by means of a simple R/C filter, being lazy I copied the circuit of an Icom handmic. It works great and cost me almost nothing. 73's Brendan EI6IZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
