Re: [Elecraft] K3S: Need SO2R Antenna Switch Recommendations

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Jim:
Dick:

FWIW, I use the 4O3A Antenna Genius 8x2 with both my K3 system and my Flex-6700 
system.  The AG can handle BCD decoding from the Elecraft, but as I recall, the 
BCD decode on the AG2 does not match the Elecraft BCD decode for 60M.  
Otherwise, fully compatible.  The Flex connects via a LAN cable.  Either port 
can be set for BCD (Elecraft) or LAN interface (Flex) for exchange of band 
information.  To simplify the Elecraft connection to the AG2, I use the Y-box  
box from Bob, N6TV.  Works great.

Currently, one radio connection is for the K3 system (K3-KPA500-KAT500) and the 
second radio connection is for Ant1 of the Flex system (6700-PGXL-TGXL).  I 
fully operate remote with both systems and access the AG2 via the Windows AG 
software remotely from a computer where I am or via a PC in the shack that is 
online remotely.  I can also access AG2 via SmartSDR for Mac.  The remote 
access gives me positive status of which radio is connected to which antenna 
port.  Obviously, the two radios cannot share the same antenna port at the same 
time.  

With this setup, I’m able to use the K3 System using the K3/i0 and Remote Rig 
as a backup to the Flex System in the event there is a “problem” with the Flex. 
 My remote station is 1,280 miles from where I’m currently located, so having 
redundancy is very useful as past experience has demonstrated.Redundancy 
includes having separate network connection from each system in the shack 
(detached building) to the router in the house via separate fiber connections.  
Should the  fiber/network switch/power source used by one system fail, the 
other system will hopefully still be available.  

Bottom line is that 403A makes excellent equipment and the integration of the 
Antenna Geniyus with the K3 system is very easy.  Either radio port can be 
configured for BCD or LAN connection.   

Sourcing of the AG2 can be done in the US via Flex Radio Systems.  They stock 
the AG2 with either N-Connector or SO-239 connector. 

73, 

Barry, WD4ASW
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)  

> On Aug 31, 2024, at 22:28, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dick,
> 
> The 4O3A 2x8 switches are quite good, have excellent isolation. The more 
> expensive one has even better isolation and probably has a band decoder. The 
> switching inputs can be configured multiple ways with DIP switches. I don't 
> recall details, because my band decoders are built into my 5B4AGN BPF kits. 
> And Ranko is very good to deal with.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> On 8/31/2024 4:57 PM, RVZ via Elecraft wrote:
>>  My pair of K3S radios are in need of a 2x8 Antenna Switch for SO2R 
>> operation.  I'd like the SO2R Antenna Switch to have a built-in band decoder 
>> so the Band Data output from the  K3's ACC jack will do the switching.  I 
>> don't want an external Band Decoding unit for multiple reasons. So far, the 
>> only SO2R Antenna Switch I know of that has a built-in Band Decoder is the 
>> FLEX 2x8 Antenna Genius.  Please advise if there are any others? Thanks!
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

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David:

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Bayard Coolidge, N1HO via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> About a month ago, I upgraded from an old (2015?) Intel i5-based MBP to the 
> new M2 MBP, and was able to migrate everything over to it seamlessly by 
> having the M2 import all of my bits from the TimeMachine backup. I've been 
> using RUMlogNG for years, and it works nicely with both WSJT-X and JTDX 
> *simultaneously*, with WSJT-X driving the upgraded K3 (near-K3s) operating 
> with the KXV3B on 630m and JTDX operating the K4D on the HF bands. I do not 
> have RUMlogNG do any rig control for me, however.
> I have 24MB of memory in this MBP, but I was operating with 16MB on the old 
> MBP just fine. I had a 250GB SSD on the old MBP, but splurged for 1TB on the 
> M2. However, I think you should be able to get by with 16/250 on an Apple 
> Silicon based machine unless you're planning to watch a movie or edit video 
> while you're working the bands :-) One trick that I pull is to have a 
> separate partition on a large USB drive (which is primarily used for 
> TimeMachine) to keep less-needed files, as well as the log files generated by 
> WSJT-X and JTDX. I simply created a symbolic link in the files for those two 
> apps to point to the right places on the USB drive.
> Only fly in the ointment I've encountered is that I run Parallels and it 
> upgraded to the latest version and then installed Windows 11 ARM for me. I 
> haven't played with it yet, so I don't know how much it will bog down the 
> system. *BUT*, be forewarned that Ham Radio DeLuxe is Intel-only and flatly 
> told me in their support forum that they do NOT intend to make an ARM64 
> version for Windows 11. I only use HRD as a backup log program to review my 
> awards standing (e.g., DXCC, WPX, etc.), and now do so on my Intel-based 
> iMac, but I plan to retire it eventually. I've never used it for rig control, 
> etc.

Please note that the current Windows-11 ARM OS that can be installed by 
Parallels 18 on a M1/M2 Mac can indeed run INTEL-based Windows Software.  I’ve 
been using it for several months to run INTEL software for railroad signal 
monitoring (ATCS) and it works seamlessly.  There was no problem transferring 
program files from a Dell Latitude machine and having the software run without 
modification.

Consequently, even though there may not be an ARM version of a Windows software 
package, it may still be possible to run it under Windows ARM using an 
INTEL-based Windows package.  

That said, there is one caveat:   Windows ARM does not currently support 
natively USB devices other than such as items as Keyboards, Mice, Trackballs, 
etc.  For example, I cannot run a SDR device on the ARM because the device 
drivers don’t exist under ARM needed for SDR:  I use ZADIG to add drivers for 
SDR and it doesn’t work running Windows 11 ARM.  

I suspect that USB support for ARM will grow under time, but it remains to be 
seen whether software that uses USB attached devices that require special 
device drivers will work.  In my case, this means using data sources available 
via the internet rather than using a SDR device for over-the-air reception of 
data.  For example, I can use data collected via SDR attached to my Dell laptop 
and feed that data to Apple MBP M1 laptop running Windows 11 ARM via LAN to 
display the data.  


FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3

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Jorge:

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have a K3/100 on the radio site and a K3/0 Mini on the control site,
> running perfectly with remoterig boxes
> 
> How can I add the P3 SVGA to the control site?
> 
> Couldn't find the connections for that in Google

Remoterig does not support the P3/SVGA nor does Elecraft offer a remote option 
for the P3.I have the K3/0-Mini along with the K3-KPA-500-KAT500-P3 at my 
ham shack in southeast Georgia.  

I’m aware of two options for ’seeing’ the P3 remotely:

1. Install a video capture board in the ham shack computer and camera aimed at 
the P3 and then view the P3 by accessing the ham shack computer to see the 
video.  However, I’m not aware of any currently available video capture boards 
per se.  You’d have to search to see if these are still available.  This 
approach has been discussed in the past on this reflector, but it has been 
awhile since anyone has posted anything about it.

2. Use the IF output from the back of the P3 and connect a SDR receiver (such 
as SDRPlay devices), install the appropriate SDR software on the ham shack 
computer, and install OmniRig to have the software track the frequency of the 
K3/100. I have done this with SDRPlay's SDRduo running their SDRuno software 
that has the ‘hooks’ for OmniRig.  It is then possible to view a spectrum 
display running available through the SDRuno  that will replicate what the P3 
can show directly.   When I turn on the RX ANT on the K3/0-Mini, it allows 
OmniRig to interface between the K3 and the SDRuno software and subsequently as 
I change frequencies/bands on the K3, the SDRuno software follows along.  I can 
also set the frequency of the K3 by specifying the frequency within SDRuno 
software.

While I’ve done this with SDRPlay hardware and software (I already had the 
SDRduo in my shack before trying this), presumably the same thing can be done 
with “SDR dongles” such as NooElec using other SDR programs such as SDR Sharp, 
SDR Console, etc.  However, I don’t know if these packages provide the OmniRig 
interface to ensure that the spectrum display is controlled by the K3.  SDRPlay 
also offers single tuner SDR devices (SDRduo is a dual-tuner) such as the RSP1A 
and RSPdx. See: www.sdrplay.com <http://www.sdrplay.com/>.

Bottom line is that the “work around” is to have a PC in the shack that can 
utilize a SDR device (connected via USB) with an IF input coming from the P3 
that can subsequently be controlled by the K3 to show a spectrum display.  This 
means you’ll also have to connect to the PC in the shack through remote 
software such as VNC Viewer (from RealVNC.com <http://realvnc.com/>) or another 
package such as TeamViewer.  The SDRplay website does have generic 
documentation and videos on how to connect HF transceivers to their SDRs and 
how to configure SDRuno so that the SDR can provide a spectrum display (As I 
recall, they use the Kenwood 570G as their example).  See: 
https://www.sdrplay.com/apps-catalogue/ 
<https://www.sdrplay.com/apps-catalogue/>.




Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)



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> thanks!
> 
> -- 
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests

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Chuck:

> On May 1, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Chuck MacCluer  wrote:
> 
> The K3 and K3S are dead ends --- they are frozen at their present
> capabilities. The K4 is a partially filled canvas that can improve over
> time. For example, the K4s I hear on the air still have, like the K3xs,
> that ugly popup in the unwanted sideband. They compare in this respect
> unfavorably with the lowly IC-7300. But the K4 will someday possess
> predistortion and consequently a pristine transmitted SSB signal. Unlike
> its predecessors, the K4 has an unlimited future. That's the nature of a
> full SDR.

Your point is certainly well taken.  Performance enhancements, new features, 
bug fixes, etc. are all possible given the old adage, “It is simply the 
software.”

That said, exactly how a product line evolves over time can have a huge impact 
on both current customers and perspective customers. One can certainly argue 
that those that jumped in line on the day of product announcement for the K4 
are ‘early adopters’ who are willing to purchase a hardware design and then be 
relatively patient waiting for the software/firmware to evolve to the point 
that announced features are made available.  The tradeoff is that ’needed 
features’ may lag behind the ‘basic features’ and that those that forked out 
real  for the latest generation of hardware may start to get ‘antsy’ about 
not being able to take full advantage of a product’s “potential” as 
software/firmware evolves later.  

While I have no idea what Elecraft’s development timeline looks like, 
presumably their development schedule is predicated on relative priorities as 
well as creating the building blocks necessary to enhance the software over 
time.  I also don’t know how large their development team is or whether they 
have other duties/responsibilities as well.  As far as I know, they have not 
released a ‘development roadmap’.  Bottom line is that those that purchasers of 
a new generation of hardware that is fully dependent upon software to ‘make the 
magic’ must recognize that such development work will likely exceed their 
presumptions of how quickly such software is fully developed.

While Elecraft is not FlexRadio, one only has to look at the history of Flex to 
see how much longer software development takes over hardware development to 
create the ‘desired’ product.  When Flex announced their 6 series at the 
2012 Hamvention, they delivered the hardware within 18 months of product 
announcement to those who ’signed up’ in the first few months after product 
annoucement.  I received my Flex-6700 in November 2013 with SmartSDR for 
Windows version 1.0.  However, the first iteration of SSDR (v1.0) was simply 
the first step in a long evolution of software development.  It wasn't until 
May 2017 (five years after initial product announcement) that “SmartLink” was 
introduced in SSDR v2.0 that allowed remote connectivity of Flex-6 series 
transceivers, a product feature announced in 2012 and which is why I got the 
Flex-6700 in the first place.  

Almost 10 years later, we’re now seeing hardware issues starting to crop up 
with the SD cards installed in older Flex-6xxx transceivers that contain the 
“smarts” of these products.   While Flex utilizes ‘industrial grade” SD cards, 
even these products apparently degrade after years of read/write cycles.  
Customers are now experiencing issues where current firmware upgrades ‘brick’ 
their transceivers because of the longterm degradation of these cards means 
they fail during testing of SD card performance as part of the firmware update. 
 In other words, the testing is done to ensure that SD card is capable of 
accepting the new firmware and fails.  Flex has been very responsive is 
supplying replacement SD cards (even though radios are beyond their warranty 
period) which is certainly appreciated, but it does leave a “taste in one’s 
mouth” when this happens.  BTW, these SD cards are unit specific (they 
apparently contain serial number information) which means one can’t simply copy 
the contents of one SD card and install it on a non-Flex provided SD Card.  

I note this simply to point out that today’s world of “software defined radio” 
introduces not only new capabilities but also changes the paradigm about 
product development and longevity of products due to limitations.   Indeed, 
investing in a new product release such as the K4 or the Flex-6 means that 
the purchaser becomes part of that product’s ‘ecosytem’ where it may take a 
significant amount of time to finalize that ecosystem.  This compares to the 
‘old days’ where one purchased a ‘radio as is” with limited update capabilities 
and one simply purchased a replacement as needed.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX


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Re: [Elecraft] SK Elecraft Station

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Paul:

> On Apr 23, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Paul Horenstein K2PH  wrote:
> 
> Barry:
> 
> While the embedded link to our club website may have given a subtle hint, the 
> equipment is located in the northern suburbs of New York City, specifically, 
> Rockland County, NY.

Thanks for the clarification.  I recognize that dealing with estate matters can 
be a challenge for all concerned and I’m sure the family appreciates your 
willingness to help.  

When it comes to ’selling’, I submit that ’subtle hints’ won’t cut it which is 
why I asked the question. One cannot assume that someone will take the time to 
open a website, look at QRZ, or take either measures to try to determine where 
the items in question might be located. Instead, if the seller doesn’t bother 
to provide a geographical reference, your potential buyer won’t bother to do 
the research and will simply ignore the posting as the likelihood is that it 
will be outside their relative geography.  

Bottom line is that it generally a good idea to provide appropriate location 
information in the initial announcement to help create interest.  

Good luck,

Barry, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX



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Re: [Elecraft] SK Elecraft Station

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Paul:

> On Apr 23, 2022, at 6:36 PM, Paul Horenstein K2PH via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> As president of our local radio club I am sometimes contacted by the family 
> of a member who has become a silent key, to assist with the disposition of 
> his equipment.
> I was recently contacted and asked to help with a complete K3 station, K3,P3, 
> KPA500 & KAT500. There are also some other peripheral devices, power 
> supplies, wattmeters, switches and power distribution boxes.The family has 
> asked me to act as an intermediary. As such, if you would like any further 
> information as to availability, price, options, condition, etc., please email 
> me and I will get back to you and, if warranted, put you in touch with the 
> family. Neither I nor the club are making anything on this. It's unfortunate, 
> but this is the third one of these instances that we've been called upon to 
> do in the past year.
> 73
> Paul K2PHPresident, Crystal Radio Club, Inc.www.crystalradio.club


It would be helpful if you at least provided city/state of where the equipment 
is located.  This information might encourage other to follow up with you if 
indeed the equipment is relatively close to their area.  I also know that there 
are some folks who purchase estate items and resell at hamfests.  Thus, knowing 
where this equipment is located might encourage further interest.  

FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Service

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Dave:

> On Apr 21, 2022, at 2:11 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> For most other brands you can find a repair center somewhere certified by the 
> manufacturer.  Elecraft has never done that, and now that they no longer 
> support replacement modules and appear to have significantly pared down their 
> own repair services, I will pretty much be left high and dry if my K3 should 
> suffer any failure unless I can figure out how to fix it myself.
> 
> I bought my K3 for two reasons ... its performance and its modularity which 
> promised long term support for upgrades and repair.  The performance is still 
> near top notch, but I was seriously mislead on the long term support and if I 
> ever buy another rig it won't be Elecraft.


I guess the obvious question to ask is whether a company other than Elecraft 
currently meets your expectations, and if so, what are their distinguishing 
characteristics that would meet your expectations?  How “long term” is long 
term? 

As a user of both Elecraft and FlexRadio products, my experience is that in 
today’s world we’re purchasing an ‘ecosystem’ and not just a ‘radio.’  Flex’s 
current ecosystem (6xxx series, PGXL, TGXL, etc.) was initially announced at 
the 2012 Hamvention with the 6700 but it wasn't until 2017 that the 6 
series met performance promises, 2018 when the PGXL was released, and 2021 when 
the TGXL was released.  There was also the Maestro released in 2016 but is 
currently unavailable as is being redesigned (again) because the tablet that is 
embedded in it is no longer available.  Presumably the “C” version will be 
available late this year.  We shall see.  

On top of that was the introduction of SmartSDR for iOS, SmartSDR for Mac,  and 
DogPark SDR for Mac.  It remains to be seen whether a 3rd party will ever 
develop SmartSDR for Android or SmartSDR for Linux.  The introduction of these 
software packages along with Maestro makes the Flex system extremely versatile, 
but at relatively significant cost and ‘wait time’ for these capabilities to be 
introduced.

On the Elecraft side,  one could argue that the KPA1500 was the kickoff of the 
’next gen’ Elecraft line when it was introduced in 2017 and delivered in 2018.  
As I recall, the K4 series was announced at Hamvention in 2019 and with all of 
the "external challenges” (Covid, supply chain issues, California wildfires, 
etc.) it wasn’t until 2021 that first deliveries were made.  I understand that 
there are still features to be released such as remote operation.  I have no 
idea how much production backlog they currently have or when they’ll produce 
the various iterations such as kits. I don’t know the status of the K4D or 
K4HD.  

So at this point one might come to the conclusion that at this moment after 10 
years of “evolution” the Flex product line is at full stride where customers 
(with the exception of Maestro) can order online and have their product shortly 
thereafter.   As I recall, Flex did bring 6 series production back ‘in 
house’ (I believe in 2020) when 3rd party production problems arose.   An 
underlying question is the long term prospects of sourcing parts for the 
current generation 6xxx series.  Evolving parts may well force a redesign and 
that in turn could turn the product development cycle back on its head again.

Down-the-road as Elecraft continues its development and production of the K4, 
they will at some point reach their goal of providing a multifaceted K4 with 
the appropriate firmware/software options.  I have no idea how long that 
development time will be, but my conclusion is that the creation of the new 
‘ecosystem’ is what we’re now experiencing, not simply the creation of a 
‘radio.’  Elecraft’s vision to produce such a product line means that 
purchasers will likely have an ‘evolutionary’ experience with these products 
where new/updated/upgraded features are released as they are developed.  

I’m happy with my K3 system (K3-KPA500-KAT500 + P3) and will use it until it 
fails. A year ago yesterday (20 APR 21) I ordered and paid for the 
KIO3BUPKT-FullDep_KIO3B Upgrade Kit for K3.  At this point I have no idea when 
it will be delivered.  I ordered it to extend the useful life of the K3.  At 
some point down the road should my K3 system become unrepairable, I’ll then 
worry about whether to replace it with something else or simply continue to use 
the Flex system only.  In the meantime, I’ll enjoy what I have.

Bottom line is that Elecraft and Flex both produce excellent products.  What’s 
changed over the past 10 years is the nature of the product itself and the 
associated “product line” where hardware and software/firmware development have 
significant impacts on product availability and capability leading to an 
‘evolving’ product line.  


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX

> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> On 4/21/2022 11:48 AM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
>> On

Re: [Elecraft] OT Donating Surplus Gear

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Paul:

> On Jan 11, 2022, at 7:32 AM, Paul Huff  wrote:
> 
> With my wife’s encouragement, I recently purchased my “holy grail” radio - an 
> Elecraft KX3.  Along with this purchase came the decision to reduce my radio 
> “footprint” and get rid of a lot of my old gear that is no longer getting 
> much use.  Some of this equipment has some non-trivial monetary value, but I 
> don’t need the money, I don’t want to go through the hassle of trying to sell 
> it, and I don’t want to deal with shipping issues.  I want to just give it 
> away locally, preferably to a club that could use it (or the proceeds from 
> selling it) to help younger or disadvantaged hams get on the air.
> 
> I’m a 100% QRP/CW operator and most of this stuff relates to that.  The gear 
> includes an Elecraft K1, Rockmite 30, SST40, MFJ Versa Tuner II, Astron PS, 
> various accessories and numerous books.  I have a 3-page pdf document that 
> gives a complete list.  Almost everything is in perfect working order and 
> there are both hard and digital copies for most of the owners manuals.
> 
> I will organize everything, box it up, and can deliver it to just about 
> anywhere in the SE Michigan area.  I want to donate all of it as a group and 
> not piece it out a little bit at a time.  If you are associated with a local 
> club that could use this donation to promote ham radio, or know somebody who 
> is,  please contact me off the list.

I donated my “surplus” gear back in 2019 to a high school amateur radio group 
in Gainesville, FL.   My station is in SE Georgia and I spent four years in 
Gainesville back in the late 70s, so I knew the club’s advisor through the 
Gainesville Amateur Radio Society,  We reconnected in 2018 due to luck and 
circumstance and I subsequently learned about the school’s amateur radio club.  
When I made the donation I drove to the high school to deliver the ‘goods’ and 
later the advisor drove to my ham station to pickup a second load. I 
documented the donation and provided the list to the High School.  They 
subsequently confirmed the receipt of items donated, including an Icom IC-781, 
a Yaesu FT-736R,  and an Alpha 9500.  

Like you, I was primarily interested in passing good equipment to the ’next 
generation’ as well as seeing the equipment in active service as it was sitting 
on shelves.  An active high school club fits that requirement nicely.  So one 
thing to consider is looking to see if such clubs exist in your area.  Local 
hams may be serving as club advisors.  Perhaps a local school experienced an 
ARISS contact and has a relationship with an amateur club as a result of that 
experience.  Talk to local educators to see if they have such clubs at 
particular schools.  

I still hear from the club advisor concerning the high school amateur radio 
club and the activities of the students.  I believe my donation has had an 
impact on students which makes me feel that I’ve a made a difference for those 
that are using this equipment as well as enhanced the high school’s club 
activity.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX


> 
> Thanks and 73,
> 
> Paul Huff - N8XMS
> Livonia, MI
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA Video Capture Card

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Ed:


> On Jan 8, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Ed G  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am investigating ways to be able to see P3 video when linking to a 
> local computer via a remote desktop type of program.  The local computer 
> would be controlling a K3 using Win4K3 and I would like to also be able to 
> see the P3 video.  So I am considering a VGA capture card to allow the P3 
> video to be displayed on the local monitor. One card I looked at:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Capture-Streaming-Teaching-Conference-Broadcasting/dp/B08GYXZC3D
> 
> Is anyone on the list doing something similar?  Looking for comments and/or 
> suggestions; thanks!

Please keep in mind that VGA is defined as 640 x 480 pixels whereas the P3 with 
the Display Option provides Super VGA which provides a resolution of 1024 x 760 
pixels.  The P3 SVGA Display Option can also handle 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 
and 1920 x 1080 pixels.  

The device you’re looking at says “VGA” so I presume this means it cannot 
handle SVGA.  

Another option would be to use an SDR ‘dongle’ with SDR software running as a 
panadapter.  I have the RF output from the P3 going to a SDRPlay device running 
SDRuno on the PC in the shack and remotely connect to the PC to view that 
panadapter running off the K3/P3 receive RF.  

SDRuno uses Omnirig that allows the SDR to ‘follow’ the K3 frequency so as the 
K3 changes frequency the panadapter provided by the SDRuno software displays 
the frequency of the K3.  I can also adjust the K3 frequency by changing the 
frequency on SDRuno.   

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/5
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04

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Andy:

Thanks for the update!

73,

Barry, WD4ASW/1

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Andy Durbin  wrote:
> 
> "Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes?"
> 
> Here is a more complete list:
> 
> * An enabled antenna is not selectable with mode BYP
> 
> * F; interrogation returns zero after CAT induced band change
> 
> * Unexpected behavior for FCCS and FCMD
> 
> * Fault code 01 when attempting to tune with low power
> 
> * Fault 2 leaves KAT500 in bypass when fault cleared
> 
> * Disabling "Tune on QSY" option does not prevent RF count re-tune if CAT 
> frequency is available to KAT500.
> 
> All the above are fixed in beta 2.04.
> 
> There are also changes in full tune implementation that make is less likely 
> that TX power foldback will result in early termination with a poor match.
> 
> FCCS, FCMD, MTM and MTA commands which did not work as documented have been 
> replaced by FDT.  (See command reference for details)
> 
> For anyone using CAT control, the biggest change is that the CAT provided TX 
> frequency takes priority over the counter frequency and counter will no 
> longer cause a re-tune at start of, or during, TX. 
> 
> (All the above are based on my notes and the Elecraft release notes should be 
> taken as the official version of the changes.)
> 
> 73,
> Andy, k3wyc
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta 2.04

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Andy:

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Andy Durbin  wrote:
> 
> https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-firmware-and-utility
> 
> New KAT500 firmware and also a new Utility version.   Quite a few issues 
> fixed that are not mentioned in the release notes.

Could you note some of the ‘fixes’ that are not noted in the release notes?

Second, this firmware is marked ‘Beta’.  I typically don’t install stuff until 
it is the production version.  So are the changes/enhancements significant 
enough and the Beta is tested well enough such that I should go ahead and 
install the firmware the next time I’m at the ham station in November (I 
operate remotely)?  The currently installed firmware is 01.75.  

Third, am I correct that the I can use an earlier version of the KAT500 utility 
to install the new firmware and that older utility software will ‘play nice’ 
with the new firmware?  The currently installed KAT500 Utility is v1.16.7.25 
that has a 2016 copyright date.  

Thanks,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)

> 
> I'd like to thank Dick, K6KR, for his patience as we worked though my defect 
> reports and enhancement suggestions.  I learned a lot from our discussions as 
> this firmware update slowly matured.
> 
> All of my alpha testing was with a Kenwood TS-590S.  Hopefully owners of 
> other rigs will try this beta and report any issues.
> 
> 73,
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[Elecraft] OFFLIST: Re: K4 delivery status

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

tion mistake on my part that isn’t discovered until after I leave the 
site or a hardware failure such as a bad LAN switch or failed UPS) but the 
Elecraft is fully operable because it is not physically dependent upon the same 
LAN switch or UPS network backup.  “Redundancy” is a good thing when using a 
remote station.  

73,

Barry, WD4ASW/1

> 
> Dave AB7E
> 
> 
> On 8/16/2021 8:33 PM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> David:
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, I'm not particularly interested in Flex's history, but that seems to 
>>> be a pretty long winded agreement that there probably isn't any timetable 
>>> for the remote capability that Elecraft appeared to demonstrate in their 
>>> video upon the release of the K4.
>>> 
>>> As an aside, last I checked software development wasn't dependent upon 
>>> piece part supply.  Priorities are priorities, though ... I'm just saying 
>>> that the remote capability doesn't appear to be very high on the list.  
>>> That's obviously Elecraft's choice, but for me the remote capability was 
>>> probably the one key attribute that might convince me to switch from my K3 
>>> to the K4.  For everything else that actually matters to me in the way of 
>>> raw performance, the K3 seems as good or better.
>> Perhaps you’re missing my point.  Yes, hardware production is dependent upon 
>> parts supply, but the focus of development is software both in terms of user 
>> interface as well as the ‘internals’ of managing “Software" Defined Radio 
>> systems is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products.  It took Flex 
>> nearly five years after initial product announcement to provide Wide Area 
>> Network remote capability for their Flex-6 products.  When it came out 
>> in 2017, it changed the entire nature of Flex products.  Remote operation is 
>> what is driving Flex users today.
>> 
>> Elecraft presumably understands this, but clearly there are other software 
>> development concerns they’re currently focusing upon.  And how do you 
>> balance the need to get hardware product out-the-door (to generate revenue) 
>> versus software development that has been implicitly promised but is 
>> presumably initially paid for with a hardware purchase?  The priority is 
>> presumably to get product out-the-door…  And as good as job as Elecraft did 
>> on K4 software development before product release, there will be ‘bugs’ 
>> found by users as the user base expands.  Thus, there is also a continuing 
>> need for “software maintenance.”
>> 
>> I have no idea what ‘software licensing’ model Elecraft may pursue down the 
>> road.  Will ‘remote operation’ be a separate product to be purchased when it 
>> is available?  The version of SmartSDR that users obtained when they 
>> received their Flex-6xxx eventually was replaced by an ‘enhanced’ version 
>> that offers new features with a new version number that requires payment for 
>> a new license if the user wants the enhanced capabilities.  The license is 
>> associated with the radio, not the user.  Thus, I went from v1.xxx when the 
>> Flex was delivered in November 2013 and later paid for v2.xxx when 
>> "Smartlink” (Remote operation) was introduced in 2017.  Later, Flex offered 
>> “Multiflex” under SmartSDR v3.xxx that I elected not to purchase and my 
>> current SmartSDR v2.7.6 supports my current needs.  “Versions” reflect new 
>> capabilities (e.g. “Smartlink” and “Multiflex”) while bug fixes within a 
>> version are provided as part of the existing license.  This pricing model is 
>> common in the computer industry and it does provide a revenue stream to help 
>> support continued software development.  In addition, I paid for SmartSDR 
>> for Mac and SmartSDR for iOS licenses developed outside of Flex because they 
>> offer features I was willing to pay for with the developer promising future 
>> updates without additional fees.
>> 
>> Thus, don’t overlook the significance of software development both in terms 
>> of development time and expense.  I presume that the software development 
>> effort for the K4 is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products 
>> requiring special skills (such as FPGA programming) and more extensive 
>> development efforts than in the past that takes time and resources to 
>> successfully implement.
>> 
>> FWIW,
>> 
>> Barry, WD4ASW/1
>> 
>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Aug 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I'm not particularly interested in Flex's history, but that seems to be 
> a pretty long winded agreement that there probably isn't any timetable for 
> the remote capability that Elecraft appeared to demonstrate in their video 
> upon the release of the K4.
> 
> As an aside, last I checked software development wasn't dependent upon piece 
> part supply.  Priorities are priorities, though ... I'm just saying that the 
> remote capability doesn't appear to be very high on the list.  That's 
> obviously Elecraft's choice, but for me the remote capability was probably 
> the one key attribute that might convince me to switch from my K3 to the K4.  
> For everything else that actually matters to me in the way of raw 
> performance, the K3 seems as good or better.

Perhaps you’re missing my point.  Yes, hardware production is dependent upon 
parts supply, but the focus of development is software both in terms of user 
interface as well as the ‘internals’ of managing “Software" Defined Radio 
systems is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products.  It took Flex 
nearly five years after initial product announcement to provide Wide Area 
Network remote capability for their Flex-6 products.  When it came out in 
2017, it changed the entire nature of Flex products.  Remote operation is what 
is driving Flex users today.

Elecraft presumably understands this, but clearly there are other software 
development concerns they’re currently focusing upon.  And how do you balance 
the need to get hardware product out-the-door (to generate revenue) versus 
software development that has been implicitly promised but is presumably 
initially paid for with a hardware purchase?  The priority is presumably to get 
product out-the-door…  And as good as job as Elecraft did on K4 software 
development before product release, there will be ‘bugs’ found by users as the 
user base expands.  Thus, there is also a continuing need for “software 
maintenance.”   

I have no idea what ‘software licensing’ model Elecraft may pursue down the 
road.  Will ‘remote operation’ be a separate product to be purchased when it is 
available?  The version of SmartSDR that users obtained when they received 
their Flex-6xxx eventually was replaced by an ‘enhanced’ version that offers 
new features with a new version number that requires payment for a new license 
if the user wants the enhanced capabilities.  The license is associated with 
the radio, not the user.  Thus, I went from v1.xxx when the Flex was delivered 
in November 2013 and later paid for v2.xxx when "Smartlink” (Remote operation) 
was introduced in 2017.  Later, Flex offered “Multiflex” under SmartSDR v3.xxx 
that I elected not to purchase and my current SmartSDR v2.7.6 supports my 
current needs.  “Versions” reflect new capabilities (e.g. “Smartlink” and 
“Multiflex”) while bug fixes within a version are provided as part of the 
existing license.  This pricing model is common in the computer industry and it 
does provide a revenue stream to help support continued software development.  
In addition, I paid for SmartSDR for Mac and SmartSDR for iOS licenses 
developed outside of Flex because they offer features I was willing to pay for 
with the developer promising future updates without additional fees.  

Thus, don’t overlook the significance of software development both in terms of 
development time and expense.  I presume that the software development effort 
for the K4 is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products requiring 
special skills (such as FPGA programming) and more extensive development 
efforts than in the past that takes time and resources to successfully 
implement.   

FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW/1


> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> David:
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:28 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell 
>>> us how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got 
>>> said that Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software 
>>> for remote operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the 
>>> responses they had gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing 
>>> so.  Nobody from Elecraft bothered to answer my query, so they are probably 
>>> correct.
>> 
>> We all know that Elecraft is facing huge challenges on all fronts in terms 
>> of product manufacturing and digging through the orders they’ve received.
>> 
>> Elecraft is not alone in terms of announcing a vision and then expending the 
>> resources ($$$, technical development, production, distributi

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

 tuner package.  

10. With the release of TGXL, a TGXL utility was also released providing 
‘basic’ remote operability to manage the Tuner.  No word as of today as to when 
the TGXL will be integrated into SmartSDR or Maestro.  It does integrate with 
Antenna Genius if you have the SO2R version of TGXL. 

In fairness to Flex, a number of cool capabilities were developed by Flex and 
third parties over the past four years including SmartSDR for Mac, DogPark SDR, 
SmartSDR for iOS (iPhone and iPad) and various utilities.  Flex has actively 
encouraged developers to use their API to create new features/capabilities for 
the Flex-6xxx ‘ecosystem.'

In essence, it has taken Flex and others nine years to develop a Flex-6 
‘ecosystem’ of very tremendous capability that covers the entire operator HF 
experience.  With transverters, this experience can be extended to VHF and 
above.  The system has matured to the point where the equipment “works” and 
fulfills their vision of remote capability.  As third parties develop new 
features (including Node Red systems), the potential is endless.  

I personally see Elecraft’s K4 as having similar potential.  I don’t doubt for 
a moment the dedication and vision that Eric and Wayne possess in their efforts 
to bring the K4 ‘ecosystem’ to fruition.  Hopefully, their vision will be 
completed more expeditiously than Flex, but I also suspect that they’re 
following a multi-year evolutionary process given their current challenges…  I 
also suspect that there will be the potential for third parties to develop 
products that will enhance the K4 experience over time.  


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
Keller, TX
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)





> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> 
>> 1.  I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.  If I 
>> replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, will my 
>> remote setup still work?
>> 
> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
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Re: [Elecraft] J Box

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Rick:

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Richard Lawn  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a barely used J Box that I’d like to part with. Let me know if
> you’re interested and I can send you a photo and we can discuss process. I
> think they sell for around $150-160 and add quite a bit of versatility to
> the K3(s).

Do you mean a “Y-Box” produced by Bob Wilson, N6TV?  His products are designed 
to be connected to the K3.

A “jbox” is a term for an electrical junction box.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
Roslindale, MA



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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 to a handlebar mount

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Mike:

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:32 AM, MIKE ZANE  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to find a "handlebar mount" to mount a KX2 on my Segway Ninebot S 
> MAX. The "handlebar" on the S Max is not a straight bar, but a round donut 
> type of handle. All of the Cell phone handlebar mounts will not work with the 
> KX2. Any one with any ideas out there? Thanks, Mike

Take a look at Lido Mounts (www.lidomounts.com <http://www.lidomounts.com/>) 
that offers a bicycle mounting bracket that one can then attach various 
mounting points for different items such as HTs and front panels of various 
radios.  See if the panel they offer will for the KX3 will work with the KX2.  

I have a Segway I2 which has their mounting piece for a bicycle that I’ve 
attached their mount to hold a HT using the belt clip.  So the question is 
whether you can ‘mix and match’ to get what you need.  There is a mounting 
package for the KX3, but it includes hardware for mounting the assembly in a 
vehicle, not a bicycle.  You can call them at 949-690-5616 to discuss your 
needs.  They’re on the West Coast so take that into account when calling them 
if you’re not on the West Coast yourself.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)


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Re: [Elecraft] 70 cm beacon ?

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Ken:

> On May 26, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I now have XV432 running with the K3 and trying to find asignal to test the 
> rx,
> 
> Anyone know of a working satellite with a beacon or otherbeacon near Shawnee, 
> Oklahoma
> 
> on 70 cm ? Not finding much activity here, Antenna to small forEME.

Amateur satellites are moving objects, so you would need to know when a 
satellite’s footprint is over Shawnee.  The ability to aim your antenna both in 
elevation and azimuth would also be helpful to provide the strongest signal to 
your receiver.  You can look up a particular satellite’s expected passes over 
your grid square by using the “Predict” page on the AMSAT website:

https://www.amsat.org/track/index.php 

You can also review the list of active satellites and their downlink/uplink 
frequencies here:

https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/ 



Otherwise, is there another ham in the area that can fire up a CW/SSB/FM signal 
between 432-436 MHz (the coverage of the XV432)?  Perhaps a member of a local 
radio club could assist.

Hope this helps,

Barry, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)



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> 
> Thanks agn 73 Ken K5DNL
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[Elecraft] Product Availability Was: Re: QSO Today Expo - Estimated K4 related shipping schedule

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mike:

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:15 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett  wrote:
> 
> The point of all of this is why is Elecraft not on this list telling us these 
> things like they used to?
> 
> I hear lots of excuses.  Sure there are supply line problems for everyone.  
> HRO still has lots of product.  Elecraft has a big competitor in FLEX are 
> they having similar issues?  I hear that some big box radios have some wait 
> times but not in the years category.

Flex has similar issues.  The Tuner Genius has been under development since 
2017.  They announced at the QSO Today Expo that those at the head of the line 
(e.g. those that ordered the Power Genius XL  in early 2017 when the tuner was 
packaged with the amplifier0  should get theirs in 2nd Quarter 2021, 4+ years 
after product announcement.  My Power Genius was delivered in May 2018 and I 
still can’t use it with a EFHW antenna without the tuner.  Maestro is currently 
on back order.  Their website shows their transceivers on back order with no 
expected availability times listed.Flex has gone through its own 
’transition’ during Covid where final assembly was brought ‘in house’ on their 
transceivers as their outside vendor shut down.  The Power Genius and Antenna 
Genius are built by 4O3A in Montenegro for Flex where they have their own 
issues and ability to ship product to the US is constrained.  

HRO may have lots of product but necessarily the product that I want.  I 
ordered from HRO last November the West Mountain Radio ‘PWRspeaker’ that is not 
expected until at least May.  It is produced in China.  So between parts, 
assembly, and transport across the Pacific there are plenty of reasons for 
delayed deliveries.  The Suez Canal debacle is but one part of the “supply 
chain’ impacts that also includes container shortages, port congestion, 
intermodal doublestack railcar availability, intermodal terminal congestion in 
the interior, and drayage impacts.  

Another example: I ordered three 4K 15” portable displays through Kickstarter 
in July 2020 with expected delivery in October 2020 from China (Two will be 
used with two GeoChron2 Digitial 4K devices that I had purchased through HRO in 
January 2020) .  Kickstarter charged my credit card in September and e-maiiled 
on 22 OCT 20 "Production is in full swing and we expect to begin shipping by 
the end of October.”  On 6 NOV 20 I received an e-mail from Kickstarter with 
subject line “Production Delays” ("It seems like many large electronics 
companies locked up all the raw materials before the funds were released from 
Kickstarter”) deliveries would not take place until February 2021.  No update 
received since then.  I have no idea at this point where they stand with 
expected deliveries.  Next week I will start making inquiries again.

What we all took for granted regarding ‘immediate gratification’ on what we 
ordered being immediately available “before Covid” is no longer the case.  It 
will be a ‘long time’ before we see a return to ’normal’ as economic activity 
dramatically picks up as Covid-19 restrictions are eased (thanks to 
vaccinations) and pent up demand for everything exceeds available supply.  
Prices will consequently rise.  Add in the proposed $2-3 Trillion in government 
spending on “infrastructure” (further competing for scarce products/materials 
that the private sector also needs)  and the proposed $2-$3 trillion increase 
in taxes (that will impact families and small business ability to ‘bounce back’ 
from the downturn) at the same time, and the nation will have so many “moving 
parts” that impact economic activity resulting in further uncertainty.  My 
concern is that the unintended consequences will have far reaching impacts on 
the economy from rising prices (inflation)  to uncertain availability putting 
even more strains on businesses such as Elecraft and Flex, not to mention the 
rest of us.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX


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Re: [Elecraft] An FT8 Radio- just dreaming

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Doug:

> On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Doug Millar via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been wondering for some time- How will FT8 change ham radio equipment? 
>  Right off I imagine a radio and computer in one box maybe with the display. 
> (FT8 should vastly simplify the first interface with the radio, with menus 
> reaching deeper into its control. Most of today's designs are not well enough 
> integrated and I think are hampered by preconceptions. Nor do they take 
> advantage of graphic user interfaces that are common in say cell phones.  I 
> think it could be one box with voice and touch control with keyboard and 
> mouse optional. How about an internal projector so that the screen can be 
> projected onto another surface making monitors optional? If it is going to be 
> worth it, It has to be not different but do things differently. 
> Has anyone else had any thoughts?  

FWIW, we’re already seeing the integration of FT8 into amateur radio equipment. 
 However, it isn’t hardware but software that does this as exemplified by 
SmartSDR for iOS and SmartSDR for Mac developed by Marcus, DL8MRE and is 
available through the appropriate Apple App Store (iOS and MacOS).  Within the 
software configured to manage Flex-6000 series transceivers, FT8 is a ‘mode’ 
that allows the operator to use their Flex-6000 product locally or remotely 
with FT8 integrated into SmartSDR on their device.  This capability is not 
available through SmartSDR for Windows (developed by FlexRadio), but as an 
Apple user I’m thrilled with the integration that is now possible with an 
iPhone, iPad, or Apple Mac/Macbook using MacOS.  It can’t get any simpler to 
integrate FT8 into an amateur radio station.

I have to presume that as Elecraft evolves the K4 ‘ecosystem’ to include remote 
operation that similar integration is feasible.  Whether Elecraft will do this 
or by third party developers remains to be seen.  

73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/5
Keller, TX

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 remote

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Gordon:

> On Oct 10, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Gordon LaPoint  wrote:
> 
> Barry,
>  Thanks for the comments and hints.  I'm using the KAT500-Remote Version 
> 1.0.15.0 software over the internet to a remote system in a different town.
> This is NOT the utility software, it allows for hosting a KAT500 over the 
> internet for control by multiple clients,  a different program.  The client 
> end does not have a clear indication of the power status of the remote KAT500.

I can’t help you with the KAT500-Remote Software because I don’t use it.  If 
you’re not satisfied with how KAT500-Remote is working for you, then I suggest 
taking a look at the KAT500 Utility software (v.1.19.18.5).  As I explained, 
simply log into the ham shack computer with VNC Client, TeamViewer, etc.  to 
manage the KAT500 utility and you’re good to go.  One advantage of this 
approach is that you don’t have to install the Elecraft software on every 
‘client’ computer to be able to access the KAT500 and you’re not limited to a 
PC as other devices that can run VPN Client TeamViewer, etc.  (iPhone, iPad, 
Linux, Windows, Android, Google Chrome, etc.) can access the local computer 
running KAT500.  It also doesn't require port forwarding configuration to gain 
access to the shack’s PC.

Another approach with the KAT500 Utility is to use a Lantronix EDS4100 (or 
similar) Serial-to-Ethernet Device Server which provides a ComPort connection 
between a device (such as the KAT500) and the PC where you’re located.  Connect 
the KAT500 RS232 port to an open port on the Device Server, install the 
Lantronix ComPort software on the PC of interest, configure the EDS Device 
Server with the RS232 settings needed, and now you can connect directly to the 
KAT500 using the Elecraft Utility Software from wherever you are.  The 
Lantronix ComPort software configures the PC to accept an ethernet connection 
and convert the connection to reflect a ComPort.  Windows Manager sees it as a 
ComPort, and you specify that ComPort in the KAT500 setup (I used Com9 set to 
38400 baud).  You’ll will need to setup port forwarding at the hamshack to gain 
access to the Lantronix brower-based configuration setup and/or run the 
Lantroix utility software to manage the Device Server.  You can install the 
Lantronix ComPort software on multiple PCs and they can all access a given 
ComPort (one connection at a time) for the KAT500. 

I've used the EDS4100 for a number of years to access my KAT500 remotely using 
the Elecraft Utility running on Win10 on my MacBook Pro running Parallels to 
create a Win10 Virtual Machine.  I also installed it on the shack PC.   I also 
used the EDS4100 (which can support four physical ComPort connections) with my 
KPA500 before I switched to the Remote Rig RC-1216H.   Again, that change was 
done so that I  could access the KPA500 with a web browser.

In summary if it turns out that you’re not satisfied with your current 
approach, I heartily recommend using the KAT500 Utility software to manage the 
KAT500 as I’ve outlined.  You'll have access to the same front panel controls 
as you would sitting in front of the Tuner:  Power, Tune, Memorize, Mode 
(Automatic, Manual, Bypass), Antenna (1-2-3).  You’ll also have   “Other” 
options (Caps on Ant Side, Bypassed, Attenuator, Amp Key Interrupt) and the 
software  shows you the "Last Observed” Frequency, VFWD, VRFL, SWR, ByPass SWR, 
Band, and Tune State. It also displays the capacitance (pF) and Inductance (nH) 
of the tuned ’solution’.  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1

> Thanks,
> Gordon - N1MGO
> 
> On 10/10/2020 11:19 AM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> Gordon:
>> 
>> I know you’ve received several e-mails pertaining to your query.  Hopefully, 
>> my comments below will be helpful...
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Gordon LaPoint >> <mailto:gordon.lapo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use the KAT500 remote software and it works great. I have only one 
>>> problem with it, I can not tell if the power is on or off. This matters 
>>> because when the remote site looses power the state of the KAT500 is 
>>> unknown and the program does not indicate if the power is ON or OFF.  Is 
>>> there a way to tell?
>>> 
>>> I can keep trying the POWER button then the TUNE button until it works, but 
>>> it would be much better for a positive indication of the power state by 
>>> button color or some other indication in the application.
>>> 
>>> I have set the "Initial Power" in the KAT500 utility to be "Power On" when 
>>> DC  is applied, but not sure this is always observed.  I have no other way 
>>> to see the remote site when this happens.
>> 
>> That is the key step.  With “Initial Power set to Power On” when DC is 
>> applied

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 remote

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Gordon:

I know you’ve received several e-mails pertaining to your query.  Hopefully, my 
comments below will be helpful...

> On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Gordon LaPoint  wrote:
> 
> I use the KAT500 remote software and it works great. I have only one problem 
> with it, I can not tell if the power is on or off. This matters because when 
> the remote site looses power the state of the KAT500 is unknown and the 
> program does not indicate if the power is ON or OFF.  Is there a way to tell?
> 
> I can keep trying the POWER button then the TUNE button until it works, but 
> it would be much better for a positive indication of the power state by 
> button color or some other indication in the application.
> 
> I have set the "Initial Power" in the KAT500 utility to be "Power On" when DC 
>  is applied, but not sure this is always observed.  I have no other way to 
> see the remote site when this happens.

That is the key step.  With “Initial Power set to Power On” when DC is applied, 
the KAT500 will indeed always be on when power is applied.  The question is 
what happens if power is removed and recognizing that the KAT500 is without 
power.  

The Elecraft Utility tests for a Com Port connection when it opens.  If the 
KAT500 is not on, the utility will not see the KAT500’s com port and it will be 
unable to connect.  If the KAT500 is on, the connection to the PC will 
established (assuming your RS232 cable is connected to a PC).  You can see the 
results in one of two ways:

1.  Under the Port Tab, selecting that and you’ll see a box open reporting the 
connection and the serial speed of that connection, or

2.  Under the Firmware Tab, there is an activity log that shows the sequence of 
events to open the Com Port and establish a connection.

If the KAT500 does not have power, these tests will fail.  Under the 
Firmware->Activity Log you’ll see entries stating (for example):

10:56:02 Attempting to contact KAT500 on port COM2 at 38400 bit/s

as it scrolls through different baud rates attempting to connect.  If you see 
this, the KAT500 is not getting power.

Presumably you have a way to remotely turn on the power supply connection to 
the KAT500. When power is restored you’ll see confirmation in the activity log:

10:59:39 KAT500 version 01.75. Serial port speed 38400 bit/s


I use a West Mountain Radio R40051 which is a web-based device that has five 
power ports (Anderson Power Poles) where one provides power to the K3, a second 
port provides power to the KAT500, a third port provides power to the Remote 
Rig, and a fourth port provides power to the Antenna Genius 8x2.  Thus, I can 
shutdown/recycle these devices remotely. I shutdown the equipment when severe 
storms are expected, or it appears that there may be a glitch that a reboot 
might resolve.  Given that I’m currently 1,280 miles from the shack, redundancy 
in the form of being able to power down/power up equipment is a nice feature.

I can also remotely shutdown and restart the power supply that powers my 
Elecraft equipment  (except the KPA500 which is on 240VAC) by using an AC-PWR 
module from WMR that allows the R40051 to power on/off the power supply through 
a different port on the same R40051.  I use a 3A power supply to power the 
R4005i (it is always on) and second 30A power supply to power the 
K3-KAT500-Remote Rig-Antenna Genius.  

The KPA500 is controlled separately through a Remote Rig RC-1216H that provides 
a web-based screen mimicking the KPA500 front panel where I can power on/off 
and set standby/operate through the interface as well as see the LED meters,  
As I use Remote Rig with the K3, the K3/0-mini activates the K3 when the Mini 
is powered on.  I also use a second RC-1216H to control my Green Heron rotor 
controller.

BTW, I did a copy/paste of the Activity Log remotely to provide this 
information to you  as I use a PC in the shack to control the KAT500 and 
connect via VNC Client from my MacBook Pro.  I accessed the R4005i directly 
through a web browser to be able to turn on/off the KAT500 with a MacBook Pro.  
Thus, I don’t need a PC at my location to control my station as I can use an 
iPhone or iPad to do it as well.  The station is in Southeast Georgia and I’m 
currently in Rosllndale (Boston), MA.

Hope this helps,

Barry, WD4ASW/1



> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Gordon - N1MGO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Line Out audio input to Remote Rig RRC 1258 MKII

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Frank:

> On Oct 1, 2020, at 1:53 PM, VO1HPFrank  wrote:
> 
> I have a Remote K3 using K3 Mini at my home shack.  The audio output  from
> the remote K3 is taken from the SPKRS jack and fed to the Audio IN jack on
> the RR box.  I have often wondered about taking audio from the LINE OUT jack
> and feed that audio to the RR Box. 
> 
> Doing this would allow me to use the radio when I am at the remote site
> without having to reach behind the radio in the rack and UNPLUG the audio
> cable so I can hear the speaker.  Several times I have left the site with
> out plugging the audio cable back in which renders the remote useless when I
> arrive home.


I’m also using the K3/0-mini with Remote Rig. I have a splitter installed on 
the speaker output port where one connection goes to powered speakers in the 
shack and the other connection goes to Remote Rig.  Nothing to unplug and then 
forgetting to reconnect and the external speakers provide better fidelity than 
the K3’s internal speaker.

> 
> I know the level of the LINE OUT is variable in the CONFIG menu.  Does the
> AF control on the K3 Mini also  control the level of the audio to the Mini
> speakers --- that audio would be fed to the remote RR box  from the LINE OUT
> jack on the remote K3.?

Keep in mind that the K3/Mini-0 controls what is happening at the K3.  So the 
question is what happens at the shack using the speaker volume knob there.  
When changing the speaker volume at the K3/0-mini you’re also changing the 
volume of whatever is happening at the shack’s speaker output.  Thus, in my 
case, if the powered speakers at the shack are left on and I change the volume 
level on the K3/0-mini, it is also changing the volume level going to the 
powered speakers in the shack.  

IF LINE OUT is a variable in the CONFIG menu, whatever you change on the 
K3/0-Mini when in Config mode for Line Out will control the Line Level going 
out at the K3.  As I understand it, setting LIN OUT includes both volume level 
and the control of volume.  Tapping ‘1’ will change LIN Out to = PHOnES, and 
the audio level is controlled by the AF/SUB gain controls.  In addition, you 
would need to set SPKR + PH to yES so that audio is still provided to the 
Speaker when Phones is in use.  That way, you don’t have to change the audio 
output at the K3 when using it either by the K3/0-Mini or directly in the 
shack.  However, this also means that when you’re at the remote site, the K3 
Speaker will be active when operating remotely.


Presumably you could connect your RR Box to this connection instead of speakers 
and this may indeed provide what you’re looking for.   What you’ll need to 
determine is whether the provided audio Line Level output will be sufficient to 
drive the K3/0-Mini internal speaker.   I don’t know if the Remote Rig audio 
will compensate for different levels provided by the the K3 speaker jack versus 
the K3 Line Out jack.

It seems to me that the simplest solution to your concerns is simply insert a 
splitter in the K3 speaker out jack and share the audio with external speakers 
at the shack along with the Remote Rig box.  With the arrangement, there is 
nothing to plug/unplug when you’re back in the ham shack and the process for 
speaker audio level control remains unchanged.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA


> 
> Frank VO1HP
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Don:

> On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Connector #22 is a USB port for a keyboard, not a general USB port.  It is 
> clearly labeled "KEYBOARD".

You're absolutely correct to note the labeling and I’ve always presumed that is 
the connector is only for a keyboard.  

However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN 16 p.12) 
does have this description of that connector:

"KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage device). 
Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”


So the wording does suggest compatibility with thumb drives, but from what I 
can tell there is no discussion in the “Owner’s Manual" about how to utilize a 
thumb drive.  Perhaps this may be a feature that was never actually developed.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)


> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 9/26/2020 7:21 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>> I have successfully captured a P3 screen image.
>> Elecraft P3 Utility > Capture Image Tab> Capture Image button - this 
>> captures the image then displays 'Bitmap copied to Windows Clipboard' - then 
>> paste from the Clipboard into Paint or other app and save in the image 
>> format of your choice.
>> My P3 manual states:  "Connector openings {16}, {17}, {21}, and {22} are 
>> provided for future use."   I think #22 is the USB port on the back of the 
>> P3.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] How much room when packing a K3S and P3 in a box

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AE4PB:

> On Aug 27, 2020, at 18:08, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I'm packing my K3s and P3 in a Pelican 1550 case. This is just to protect
> the rig while it's in storage until we can get into our new house. 
> How much foam packing around the rig is sufficient? I'd like to put the rig
> and P3 next to each other only separated by the rubber feet on the K3. 
> If I do this I believe I can get about an inch on the sides and  maybe 2 or
> more inches front/back/top/bottom. 

At the risk of asking a dumb question

If your gear is going into storage and you’re not transporting your K3s/P3 via 
aircraft, train, or auto on a trip, why not simply pack them in their original 
packaging as they came from Elecraft?  If you didn’t keep the packaging, use a 
U-Haul box with bubble wrap or other protective inserts.  

Pelican cases are nice (I have one for my K3/I0-Mini and Remote Rig combo for 
taking them to various locations to operate) but they are not cheap and given 
their form factor will not ‘stack’ as well in a storage unit if all you’re 
going to do is put them in storage.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)

> Thoughts?
> Thanks in advance.
> De AE4PB
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Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

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Rick:


> On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:29 PM, Rick NK7I  wrote:
> 
> I agree and there was apparently some cheating involved too, requiring a 
> resolution after the fact.


While I spent the weekend at the Expo, I did not sign up for the ‘contest.’  
First, it wasn’t clear how to do that and second, it seemed to me that my 
preferences for how I intended to spend my time viewing presentations and 
resulting Q&A would be counter-productive towards a ‘winning’ score.

> 
> If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), so 
> they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest.  
> Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'.

Given that winners have been announced, it would be interesting to see how many 
points were racked up by the top 10 winners and how they were generated.  My 
hypothesis is that if the focus is on ‘contesting’, then one needs to fully 
appreciate the rules and determine a strategy for ‘hitting spots’ that 
maximizes points over the course of the weekend.  I suspect that such a 
strategy would result in lost opportunities to see presentations in full, be 
involved with Q&A sessions, chat with vendors on specific topics of interest, 
peruse materials of interest at various vendors, and simply take full advantage 
of the opportunity to “talk ham radio’ with those attending.  Contesting also 
introduces stress and a focus on maximizing points/QSOs per unit of time, which 
is counter to the idea of taking time to fully benefit from the resources being 
offered at the Expo.  

Consequently, I ignored the ‘contest’, and I as I would normally do at 
Hamcation or Hamvention, mapped out in advance the specific presentations I 
wanted to see and ensured that my iPhone would alert me when a presentation of 
interest was about to begin.  And rather than having to rush to  a forum room 
and squeeze by other attendees to get a seat (as what happens at in-person 
events), I then sat back on my desk chair  and ‘got educated’.  If there was a 
break in the presentation schedule, I checked the various commercial booths 
that were of interest to me and asked questions/got answers, took a look at the 
documents being offered at these booths of interest and ended each day feeling 
that I had spent my time well.  

Elecraft and others did a great job with their presentations and willingness to 
’talk up’ their products.  In some respects I learned more at this Expo than at 
prior hamfests.  I suspect this was due to the presenters taping their 
’schtick’ which allowed them more carefully plan/script how they using their 
allocated time and to redo/edit/modify as necessary to make a better product, 
and there weren’t interruptions/distractions that occur when things are done 
live.  The Q&A was generally excellent.

Now, with all that said, the one thing that a hamfest has that the Expo does 
not is the face-to-face personal interaction.  I look forward to hamfests 
because of the people and the opportunity to see friends and meet new ones.  
Yes, I also enjoy the fun of getting there and checking out the flea market 
looking at the latest/greatest gizmos, and having dinner with friends.  
Hopefully, we’ll be able to enjoy one another’s company in 2021 at both Orlando 
and Xenia and every other hamfest in between.  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)



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> 73,
> Rick NK7I
> 
> PS I watched after, those days were already filled with family things.  Being 
> able to see what I wanted on my own schedule, really nice.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection

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David:

> On Aug 19, 2020, at 2:17 PM, David Bondy  wrote:
> 
> I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever 
> resolved.
> 
> If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by 
> a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs?

The issue is how to get all of the connections from the K3/0-Mini to the K3.  
The “Elecraft K3-Remote Owner’s Manual” (Revision D, April 3, 2014) discusses 
two methods of installing the K3-Remote variants:

1. Via the RemoteRig 1258MKII approach that connects to your personal K3 at the 
ham shack and a second RemoteRig to the K3-Remote.  This is what I’ve done.

2.  Using the K3-Remote via a PC through a USB connection.  This is meant to 
provide access to on-line remote Ham rig services such as “Remote Hams’.  I 
have no idea what interface(s) are installed at these sites to their K3s.  

> 
> My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position 
> and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have 
> to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable.

I don’t know whether the two Remote Rigs would work directly connected through 
a reverse cable, you’d probably have to connect both to a LAN where both 
devices would be assigned a local IP address (either static or dynamic).  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)


> 
> Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ‘local’ remote connection?
> 
> Thanks. David G4NRT / Z21NRT
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Re: [Elecraft] Lightning protection.

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Dave:

> On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Dave Baxter via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> FYI.
> 
> RS232 (and other serial link type) LEMP (Lightning Electro Magnetic Pulse)
> surge protectors are available from several vendors, and not that
> expensive, compared to the cost of a rig, or top range PC.
> 
> Often wonder why (other than expence) fibre optic links are not used.  CAT
> & audio over a LAN or USB FO link?
> 
> Would help general EMC issues too.

Following a lightning incident back in 2014, I followed the adage that Al, N4ZZ 
put out about using Fiber in the shack for ethernet connections.  I have four 
fiber lines from the house to the garage/hamshack that replaced two ethernet 
lines. Each is 111. ft long.  Each line carries a grouping of connections such 
as one for my Flex system, one for my Electraft system, one for Broadcastify 
and data collection, and the fourth for ‘all other’.  I have my network in the 
shack segregated so that if the Flex system goes out the Elecraft system will 
hopefully continue. Given that I primarily operate remotely, redundancy in 
amateur operations is critical because it may be 4-6 weeks between visits to 
the ham shack that is over 1,280 miles away.

I also use fiber as a ‘fire break’ between network switches in the shack and 
high value equipment such as transceivers.  

I haven’t found suitable fiber media converters for RS232 or USB.  I still have 
Telco and CATV coax running between the house and shack; it would be nice to 
find a fiber media converter for those lines as well.   I will probably remove 
them given they are not currently in use.  



FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question

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d at the QSO 
Today Virtual Expo) is that the Tuner Genius is in Alpha Testing with the hope 
that it will be available by the end of the year.  We’ll see.

I don’t doubt for a second the desire of Elecraft to deliver on their vision of 
remote operation for the K4 as well as other capabilities.  Like everyone else, 
they’re struggling with external circumstances beyond their control and it will 
be quite awhile before they are fully back to ’normal’ (whatever that means).  
A new product release is incredibly complex and remote operation is likely a 
lower priority given the ‘all hands on deck’ on getting K4 out to customers.  
The question for those with deposits is whether they feel comfortable accepting 
a product that clearly has a path for future enhancement before those 
enhancements are available and the current product offering will at least meet 
a significant portion of their expectations.  If I had been told by Flex that 
it would be five years before remote capability was actually introduced, I 
probably would not have made that deposit back in 2012…;-)  On the other 
hand, Elecraft’s proven record to date of producing product after initial 
product enhancement is certainly stronger that what I’ve experienced with Flex.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)


> 
> 73, de steve VE6WZ.
> 
> 
>> After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say 
>> Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the 
>> K4.  I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote 
>> software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 
>> 3rd parties.   I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have 
>> their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve been 
>> planning for that in my remote project.  I guess I’ll have to switch gears 
>> and delay my remote project further.  I was hoping to have it installed this 
>> year.
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Re: [Elecraft] Free shipping

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Richard:

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Zalewski  wrote:
> 
> My two cents.  We all wish the best for Elecraft.  It has been horrible for
> them and all of us living with this cloud.  Free shipping or whatever I
> don't really care at this point.  What I find fault with is the lack of
> communication.  How hard would it be to have a regular update on the
> progress of the K4 box and other products?  Even if there is no new news
> just say so. I am sorry but the communication has been far less than
> desirable.

While I feel your pain, i don’t believe the "lack of communication” is the 
‘problem’.  The ‘problem’ is that Elecraft is not in position to provide their 
customer base with updates that will meet customer expectations regarding “when 
will Elecraft start shipping product?”  The moment that they make a public 
announcement, their feet will be held to the fire, both by their 
anxious-to-receive customers and themselves.  So as Elecraft continues to work 
hard to get their product released, it doesn’t make sense for them to put out a 
public statement each week stating “We don’t know yet when we’ll be shipping”.  
Such an effort to ‘improve Communication’ will simply further frustrate everyone


> When I look at the Elecraft "stories" the last update on the K4
> was May of 2020.  The last update on in the newsletter was July 2020 with
> virtually nothing on the K4.  Please...as you can see from the
> emails...just tell us what is going on.  99.9% of us are very understanding.


With all due respect, ‘understanding’ has its limits because we all want our 
stuff ’now’.  And if they make an announcement and then modify it, what do you  
think the reaction will be?  More frustration and angst.  

While customers are anxious to get what they ordered, Elecraft’s future is 
totally dependent upon releasing a quality product as soon as they are able to 
do so because of the significant investment they’ve made over the past couple 
of years to create the K4 and they need to gain revenue from the investment to 
maintain their future.  I don’t know their financial position, but I consider 
them to be a ’small business’ which means they don’t have unlimited resources.  
Customers are anxious for a product;  Elecraft is anxious to maintain a 
business, support their employees, and maintain their reputation for quality 
products that exceed customer expectations.  Who’s neck is more on the line 
with each passing day;  the customer or Elecraft?

So give them a break.  The K4 will be released as soon as Elecraft believes 
that all of the ‘ducks’ (logistics, documentation, manufacturing, customer 
support, etc.) are lined up and ready to roll so that when their new product is 
delivered, it will more than meet everyone’s expectations.

FWIW, I’m also a Flex customer and their reputation has been sadly soiled by 
the design/production issues they’ve had over the years.  I ordered a Flex-6700 
in 2012 when it was announced and received it in November 2013. However, 
SmartSDR was woefully inadequate and it wasn’t until May 2017 when version 2.0 
was released that the software allowed the radio to do what they claimed would 
be possible (e.g. remote operation).  In February 2018 I ordered the PGXL 
amplifier with accompanying tuner.  I received the PGXL in May 2018 but I’m 
still waiting for the tuner, making the PGXL “useless” for me to use with a 
EFHW that requires a tuner.  

In the meantime, I purchased a K3-KPA500-KAT500 with the Remote Rig/K3-I0 combo 
in August 2014 so that I could operate remotely as it was clear Flex was years 
behind in software development.  Today, I use both Flex and Elecraft, but the 
ability to use an amplifier on all bands is only with the Elecraft.  Lesson 
learned:  Technology is really difficult to translate into quality products and 
that some companies have a better knack for translating a vision into a viable 
product than others.  I enjoy the Flex system, but it has been a slow, painful 
process for software development and product to get to the point to where the 
product meets stated capabilities.  




FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Folkston, GA)



> 
> Richard
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> J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV
> 
> 
> *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer*
> 
> 

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[Elecraft] Using a SDRPlay RSPduo as a K3 Panadapter for Remote Operations

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

My Elecraft K3-KPA500-KAT500-P3 is remotely operated through the K3/IO-mini and 
Remote Rig from my station in Southeast Georgia,  The system works well but I 
don’t have remote access to the P3.  

It finally dawned on me recently that I could potentially use a SDRPlay RSPduo 
SDR receiver that I currently own as a panadapter and then use VNC Viewer to 
connect to the shack PC to view the panadapter.

As the P3  has an IF output,  I plan to connect that output to one of the 
RSPduo’s SMA inputs.  The PC that is at the shack is already setup for remote 
access, so I could simply install SDRuno and run the software to see the 
Panadapter display. That leaves the issue of how to obtain K3 frequency and 
mode information (presumably using OmniRig to feed data to SDRuno) for managing 
the SDRduo’s  display of the K3’s frequency as the center frequency.  I presume 
that the SDR software would be set to the IF frequency from the K3 (8.215 MHz).

Currently, the K3 serial port is connected to the Remote Rig for remote 
control.  However, it is possible to run a serial cable from a PC ComPort to 
the back of the P3.  So if that connection is made, will it be connected 
serially to the K3 as well as to the P3?  If not:

1.  Is a serial port y-adapter between the K3 serial connection and the Remote 
Rig connection to add a PC serial port connection acceptable under the 
presumption that the PC won’t be sending commands to the K3 but only receiving 
data from the K3?

2.  Do I use a PC program to provide data from the K3 to both the Remote Rig 
Com Port and to SDRuno?  In this case, presumably OmnRig would be accessing a 
virtual serial port (VSPE) rather than a physical serial port.  I understand 
that LP-Bridge is not compatible with SDRuno so is there a similar ‘repeater’ 
software for distributing serial information to various destinations?

3. Am I better off to use something like Win4KSuite as the interface between 
the K3 and RSPduo?  This apparently eliminates the need for OmniRig and 
provides integration with SDRduo.  It also appears that this software supports 
the K3/IO-mini, so does that mean the “Mini” is connected to a PC ComPort and 
the interconnection is made through Win4KSuite?  One issue that I see with this 
approach is that if there is an issue with the PC, I will lose my K3-K3/IO 
connection as well.

4.  Are there other software packages that I should consider?

If anyone is using a K3/IO remote connection as well as using a PC in the shack 
as a Panadapter display through a SDR receiver, I’d appreciate your thoughts on 
this.  I’m  planning to head back to SE Georgia at the end of this week 
(Thursday/Friday) and would like to set this up while I’m there before 
returning to Texas later in the month.


Thanks,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX






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Re: [Elecraft] OT Bluetooth Serial adapters

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

RussL

> On Jun 7, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Russ Edelen  wrote:
> 
> There is a wealth of knowledge and experience within this group. Has anyone 
> used a Bluetooth serial adapter? I am considering one for my mobile Kenwood 
> d-710 to utilize an android tablet.
> 
> I see there are many implementations but I'm not sure if it is worthy of 
> consideration.


Some things to consider:

1.  From what I can tell, most of these devices are designed to be plugged into 
a computer.
a.  Presumably you’d attach the adapter to the RS232 port of the D710.  So the 
first question is how you’d power it.  Power would likely have to come from a 
USB charger.
b.  How do you configure it?  Would you attach it to a computer, configure the 
settings and would the settings be retained by the device (not the computer) 
when the device is powered down and removed to be reconnected to the D710?

2.  The next question is configuring the Android:
a.  What software are you intending to use on the Android?  Does it use a com 
port?
b.  Is there a way to configure a bluetooth connection as being a com port?
c.  Would the software recognize a bluetooth input as  a comport?

I don’t have experience with these devices. My suggestion is to first look at 
the Android and the software you intend to use with the D710 to determine 
whether it has the capability to recognize a CompPort connection via Bluetooth. 
 Second, when looking at these devices, look at their compatibility in terms of 
being connected to a non-PC.


Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX  

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> Thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

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Jim:

> On May 24, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Frank. IMO, this sort of clarification ought to be in the FD RULES, 
> not in an FAQ.  We've done 1AB QRP for at least 8 years using N1MM on a 
> laptop running on a generator.
> 
> A few of the slower NUCs will run on 12V and are adequate for logging. Would 
> this ruling mean that its monitor must not run on a generator or mains power?
> 
> What if the transmitter is being keyed by a WinKeyer which is controlled from 
> a computer running on a generator?


I’m not a lawyer nor do I play one on television, nor did I stay at a Holiday 
Inn Express last night….  ;-)

It seems to me that the ’spirit’ of the FD rules is that anything that impacts 
the transmission/reception/interpretation of RF communications cannot be on a 
commercial power source if the site is going to claim ‘emergency power’ as the 
power source.

So if a Local Area Network is installed to pass data between stations at the 
site for logging purposes or coordination of transmissions, or is involved with 
digital signal modes, or if there is  computer equipment, monitors, or 
ancillary equipment is used as part of the system to process information as 
part of the overall operation, then they all must be off commercial power if 
‘emergency power’ is to be claimed as the power source.  A Flex system that 
uses the LAN to communicate between Maestro, Antenna Genius, PGXL 
Amplifier,etc.  may only be running CW and SSB without a PC would have to have 
that LAN on emergency power as the LAN is integral to the setup/operation of 
their communications equipment.  If a laptop is running SSDR and has an 
external monitor, both devices would need to be off commercial power.  If a 
laptop is logging contacts or being used for digital modes, it and anything 
else attached to it would also need to be “off the grid” to claim emergency 
power status.

The bottom line is that those that are involved with the design/installation of 
a field day site shouldn’t be looking for ‘exceptions’ to the rules but ask 
themselves whether their site setup meets the ‘intent’ of the rules. 

Or, to put it another way, if the site did have a commercial feed available and 
that feed was lost due to a power outage, would the site be able to continue 
operating regardless on the existing sources of power that they’ve installed at 
the site?  If the answer is “no” (e.g. they need to rewire/reconfigure to 
accommodate the loss of commercial power to keep operating as intended), then 
that site doesn’t qualify as running on emergency power until such time as they 
can indeed operate from start to finish without interruption.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX


> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> On 5/24/2020 4:16 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
>> From the ARRL Field Day FAQ:
>> www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2019/2019-FD-FAQ-RevA.pdf 
>> <http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2019/2019-FD-FAQ-RevA.pdf>
>> Q. What equipment at our Field Day site must be operated off of the 
>> emergency power in order to claim the 100-point per transmitter bonus?
>> A. You must operate all transmitting and receiving equipment from emergency 
>> power.
>> If you use a computer for digital modes/, and/or to control or operate the 
>> radio, /it also must use emergency power.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

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Ron:

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Ron Manfredi  wrote:
> 
> Fewer power supplies (meaning the switching type) have actual terminal bolts 
> to use with ring connectors.  If the supply doesn't have that type of 
> connector, then what alternatives are there to being able to use one supply 
> in a station that has more than one high current rig,  (even if they are not 
> used at the same time) since the connectors on most of these supplies will 
> take at most only one 10-12 gauge cable?

A number of power supplies now feature Anderson Power Poles. Is that the 
connector you’re referring?

Of course, Elecraft transceivers also use the Anderson Power Pole connectors as 
does Flex Radio System transceivers.  West Mountain Radio offers the “Rig 
Runner” series of DC Power Splitters using Anderson Power Poles that feature 
varying number of connections as well as individual fused ports (they use 
Automobile fuses) where if the fuse blows the port lights up,  with the device 
rated for 40A.  I just saw an advertisement for a new product (4006U) that also 
includes two UBS power ports as well.  See: 
http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner.php

There are also other manufacturers/distributors of DC Power Splitters, such as 
Powerwerx, and MFJ that offer their own variations of Anderson Power Pole DC 
Power Splitters.   Installing  Anderson Power poles is relatively easy if you 
use the proper crimper.  All of my DC power cables use Anderson Power Poles 
because the DC Power Splitters make it easy to wire the station, it is easy to 
add/remove power connections, and provide a standard fitting that makes it easy 
to relocate equipment to another part of the station or somewhere else (e.g. I 
use them in my Volvo XC70 as all of my ham gear works off DC Power Splitters).  
Each connection can also be locked in place in the power splitter with an 
insert that comes with the power splitter (they’re provided with the WMR 
products;  otherwise, you can buy them separately).  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX



> 
> Ron   WA2EIO
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2020 10:56 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> Jim et al:
>> 
>> Thank you for confirming  exactly what I've written and suggested.
>> 
>> TO ALLPLEASE do not use power strips to supply DC to your radio from 
>> your power supply.   ALWAYS connect the radio direct to the power supply 
>> terminals.The power pole and DC distributions strips are ok for LED 
>> lightning and such but NEVER for anything drawing over about 2 amps.   I 
>> don't care what the manufacturer says they are "rated" for.E = I x R.
>> Every connections adds resistance.Do the math.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> On 4/25/2020 9:32 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
>>> I had been using a power pole strip to power everything. After seeing some 
>>> discussion on this topic some time ago I found that in the string of 3 
>>> power pole connections in my setup at the time I was seeing around a 1 volt 
>>> drop in the voltage on the K3 metering between receive and 100 watts 
>>> keydown. That voltage drop was confirmed by my VOM so I wired the rig 
>>> directly to the supply and the voltage drop was less than 0.25 volts. That 
>>> is the way my rigs and VHF/UHF amps will be connected from now on with only 
>>> a fuse inline. The low current stuff will stay on the power pole strip 
>>> where they do just fine lighting up lights and stuff.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 09:16 Don Schroder >> <mailto:donandde...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob,
>>> 
>>> Is it safe to run my K2 using Anderson Power Pole connections,
>>> and/or RigRunner equipment?
>>> 
>>> For my info, what is the reason for NOT using them?
>>> 
>>> I’m rewiring, and I want to do it right!
>>> 
>>> Gunny, KE0PVQ
>>> 
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>>> Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com <mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM
>>> To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net
>>> <mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net>>
>>> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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>>> <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation
>>> 
>>> Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if
>>> it is 

Re: [Elecraft] K4/0

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mark:

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Mark Musick  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> I don't have a link, but if you watch the video from Dayton last year you 
> will see Eric demonstrating the K4 using an Ipad. No need for a K4/0.

True.  But it does come down to operator preference.  Flex’s product line was 
originally ‘all software’ requiring either a PC or an iPad for Flex supported 
software or dogparkSDR for those with a Mac supported by Dog Park Software, Ltd 
(Don Agro).  Flex later came out with Maestro because some operators want knobs 
such as contesters.  And now they offer Flex transcievers with Maestro as a 
bulit-in operator interface meaning that the user doesn’t have to be Windows 
savy, MacOS savy. or have to own an iOS device to use Flex products.  

In my case I’ve found the K3/I0-Mini to control my K3 and Maestro to control my 
Flex-6700 to be the easiest way to operate remotely.  Both units sit on my desk 
in Texas while the station is in SE Georgia.  I simply turn them on and they 
connect with their respective transceivers.  I can use amateur radio headsets 
without any problems.  Compare that to running SSDR on a PC (or a Mac under 
Parallels running Windows or DogparkSDR in MacOS) where I have to a) start the 
computer, b) start the software, and c) connect a headset of some sort that has 
a USB interface.  And once the software is running it is taking up a 
significant amount of real estate on the screen making it more difficult to use 
other software while monitoring the bands.  

In my case, while I have the ability to use every user interface offered by 
Flex (Windows SSDR, iPad SSDR, ios SSDR plus Maestro) I use Maestro 90% of the 
time.  On the Elecraft side, the K3/I0-Mini ‘just works’ by turning it on.  I 
can easily pick a frequency and listen to a net or ragchew, jump in if I want 
to, and it takes up little space on the desk.  I do have to remotely connect to 
the ham station in order to get the KAT500 up and running and I run a web 
browser to operate the KPA-500 (Through the Remote Rig 1216H) and  rotor system 
(Green Heron interfaced with another RR-1216H), but once up and running I can 
reduce the screen size without loss of visibility of the  browser.  The major 
downside of the Elecraft gear is the lack of a panadapter at the operating 
position in Texas that the Flex has both in software and the Maestro, but of 
course that will be rectified with a “K4/0”.

On the other hand, with the Flex I can manage/operate the PGXL amplifier from 
the Maestro.  The major downside of the PGXL is the lack of tuner so I can’t 
use it on my EFHW for 80/40, etc.  At some point such a tuner will be released. 
Thus, I do have to use the K3 when transmitting on the EFHW.  (The EFHW doesn’t 
resonate well enough to avoid using a tuner.)  

Consequently, I fully expect that whenever Elecraft releases a " K4/0” it will 
be well received by those who need to operate remotely  (e.g. connection 
through the WAN) because it will be essentially the same as being in front of 
the ‘real’ K4.  And those that have their amateur equipment installed in a 
building separate from their residence on their property may find it convenient 
to operate from a home/office inside that residence rather than going to the 
ham shack. 


> You'll be able to remote to it via a tablet, PC and I would expect an app to 
> remote via a smartphone.

My comments above are  not to suggest that a Tablet/smartphone interface isn’t 
useful.  I have SSDR on my iPad and iPhone.  But I use it for short durations 
of time because I find that over time it is not as user friendly as the Maestro 
(due to the lack of a tuning knob) and is primarily used when I’m traveling and 
the only way to connect to the Flex is with what I have with me.  The 8” screen 
of  Maestro is a built-in tablet with key knobs provided along with audio 
interfaces necessary for operating.

The great thing about both the Flex and the upcoming K4 is that both designs 
allow the operator to utilize whatever user interface is available.  Flex has a 
multi-year head start on what they’ve developed, but I fully expect Elecraft to 
catch up relatively quickly given their track record on product 
development/release as well as taking ‘lessons learned’ from Flex’s experiences 
in creating and producing these kinds of products.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX




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> 73,
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> Hi Wayne:
> Is there any additional information available on the K4/0? Will  it be 
> required for off-site remote operation or will there be some way to interact 
> the with K4 and all controls via software on a remote computer?
> Thanks and 73,
> Steve VE3XO

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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Dick:

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Dick Dickinson  wrote:
> 
> The Big Three Automobile manufacturers often looked towards peaks in Monday
> auto sales after their models performed well in NASCAR races over the
> weekend.
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if amateur radio manufacturers look for similar peaks following
> contest events.

Interesting question, but there are huge differences in events:

1.  The NASCAR race itself is very public and the results are known at the end 
of the race (contest).  Such races are publicized through news media so that 
even those that don’t watch the race live can easily find out the results after 
the race. As part of the publicity, each team is described as a ‘Ford”, “GM”, 
“Honda”, team etc. even though the cars themselves are indistinguishable except 
for the label that is slapped on them.  NASCAR fans indeed have ‘brand loyalty’ 
and may well be influenced by racing results.  

2  An amateur contest is conducted in closed hamshacks running for significant 
periods of time (over a weekend) and no one necessarily knows who is competing 
until logs are submitted.  Generally, no one knows (including the contestants) 
the results for a month or more after the event.  And when the results are 
announced, the contestants are described by their name/call, location and 
perhaps club affiliation.  No one is highlighting their equipment unless a 
photo is included in the article providing the contest results that provides a 
glimpse of their shack.

Consequently, I seriously doubt that there are peaks in sales due to the 
results of specific contest events themselves.

That said, we are seeing some equipment touted based upon advertising conducted 
by the manufacturers themselves:

1.  Flex Radio touts their “SO2R” solution for contesters and others 
highlighting the ease of Flex products being able to operate SO2R with 
relatively minimal wiring/cabling.  This includes having contesters explaining 
how they're benefiting competitively from Flex product offerings. 

2.  Manufacturers are supporting DXpeditions where the manufacturers themselves 
publicize their support for a particular operating group from some rare 
location.  Both Elecraft and Flex have done this.  In addition, the DX Team 
publicly highlights the financial support provided by major donors, including 
equipping their team with the equipment that is utilized.  


I can’t say that there is a direct correlation between specific contesting and 
DX events as having a correlation with amateur radio equipment sales.  However, 
it is probably fair to say that manufacturers are now paying attention to 
contesters in helping to determine the features/bells & whistles being put into 
their products.  Flex in particular has been doing that with their SmartSDR 
development.  Their transceivers and PGXL amplifier are based in part of 
meeting contester preferences.  Their strategy is presumably based in part of 
two factors:

1.  Contesters are spending real $$$ on their stations to develop a competitive 
edge.  When your focus is on the contest and not the wallet, they’re more 
likely to spend money on technology that will enhance their capabilities or 
provide ease of finding and making QSOs.

2  There is indeed a ’trickle down’ impact where the capabilities introduced to 
support contesters becomes available to other amateur operators.  Again, Flex 
touts their focus on contesters because the contesters are in a sense 
underwriting the development effort by being ‘early adopters.’  However, once 
developed, features/capabilities become available to a wider audience who may 
be interested in taking advantage of particular new features that appeal to 
them.


BTW, this isn’t necessarily a new phenomena.  There has been plenty of 
technology developed for other markets over the past 10 years or so that have 
been introduced into amateur radio products (e.g. DOD/NSA-> amateur radio).
Software Defined Radio has grown tremendously because organizations with ‘real 
money’ underwrite technology and product development that later gets introduced 
into the amateur radio market.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX

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Re: [Elecraft] Flex6600 + KPA500 + KAT500

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mick:


> On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:02 PM, w6mob  wrote:
> 
> I am trying to run my Flex6600/ KPA500/KAT500 remotely.
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to hook up a PC & a Flex to a KAT500 at
> the same time?
> 
> I have the KPA500/KAT500/Flex working together. I also have the KPA500
> Remote S/W working on a PC. But I would like to also monitor/control the
> KAT500 at the same time.
> 
> As best I can tell you can only connect a single KXUSB cable to the KAT.

I’m running a K3 system (K3-KAT500-KPA500) and a Flex System (Flex-6700 and 
PGXL) remotely from my ham shack in SE Georgia.  It is certainly possible to 
run both ‘flavors’ of equipment at the same time remotely.

You apparently have the KPA500 and Flex running remotely to your satisfaction.  
The question is how to configure the KAT500.  

I have my KAT500 interconnected with the K3 and KPA500 through the “Control” 
15-pin  connectors as ’normal’ to feed band data to one another.Presumably 
you’d have your KAT500/KPA500 connected to the Flex using BCD through the 
control connectors so that the Flex and Elecraft gear talk to each other.  Take 
a look at the Flex document, “USB Cables Interface for the Flex-6000” that goes 
into detail on how to use the Flex USB interface to connect to other devices of 
various types (CAT, Bit, BCD, LDPA , DSTAR).  The cable I use for BCD 
connections with my Flex can be found at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HKK4SCO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HKK4SCO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

You’ll need to wire the non-USB end for (which comes with breakaway PCB Board 
Header Connectors) for the proper connection to the 15-pin remote connector 
side of the KPA500/KAT500  .In my case, I originally used this cable to 
communicate with the Antenna Genius BCD connector.  

In summary, the serial interface of the KAT500 provides the ability to 
manage/control the KAT500.  You can run the KAT500 utility on a PC in the shack 
and remorely access it, or setup a serial-to-ethernet interface to allow remote 
serial connection to the KAT500 by a PC that is at your location to control it 
with the KAT500 utility.  The “control  connection”  (BCD) provides the ability 
of the KAT500 to communicate Band Settings with other equipment (KPA500, K3, 
Flex, etc.).  As noted, you will need to get the appropriate cable that allows 
the Flex to feed/receive BCD data through a USB connection on the back of the 
Flex to the KAT500/KPA500.

You may also want to post a query to the Flex Community about interfacing the 
Flex to Elecraft gear to see what others may suggest as well.   

Hope this answers your question,


Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX



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Re: [Elecraft] My prediction for Dayton 2020

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Joe:

> On Feb 17, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Joseph Trombino Jr  wrote:
> 
> Howdy Gang.
> 
> As the time for the Dayton Hamfest draws near I’d like to start the 
> rumor/speculation/not-based-on-any-facts-at-all, sheer pipe dream for the 
> announcement of a new Elecraft rig. 
> 
> It will be called the KX4…basically a KX3 on steroids with a 5” color TFT 
> touch display that will cover 160-440 all-mode and will be the Elecraft 
> answer to the Icom IC705.
> 
> Believe the KX3 is getting a bit long in the tooth so a new KX4 should be 
> just around the corner.

Given that the K4 has yet to be shipped, I’d expect that Elecraft is focused on 
getting the K4 finalized first.  Presumably along with the production 
headaches, there is also documentation, support infrastructure including 
customer support training, and web-based support tools.   With the actual 
release of the K4, there is also the question of variants being made available 
including the kit version.  I’m presuming that the ‘behind the curtain’ 
activities take up a significant amount of management time/effort that has 
nothing to do with ‘playing radio'.  

Consequently, i wouldn’t expect any new product announcements this year other 
than updating the K4 product status and making a solid push in marketing/sales. 
 

That said, one can certainly hope for a KX4 that would address satellite 
operating interests, but my expectation is that such product development won’t 
be announced before 2021. By then Elecraft would be in position to decide what 
to incorporate from the K4 design effort  into a KX3 replacement along with 
having a better understanding of supply chain issues that will impact product 
production.  The delay in K4 release is due in part to logistics/production 
issues.

I can only imagine that Eric and Wayne whose passion for product development 
are being somewhat frustrated/challenged by the reality of bringing their 
creations to life.  Generals win wars with strategy, but it is the logistics 
that make it possible to implement in reality.  



FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW
   

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> Forgive me Wayne for letting the cat out of the bag (GRIN).
> 
> I’m a seer without peer (grin).
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> Hey, we can all wish, can’t we?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

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Mike:

> On Dec 24, 2019, at 12:22 AM, Michael C. Marx  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3, 
> KAT500 and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while 
> installing the remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like I 
> need to disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232 
> line so the remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of the 
> station. Am I missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half of my 
> station everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers on 
> hooking this all up without disabling my station every time I want togo 
> remote.  Any help is sure appreciated

I know that others have responded to your query, but allow me to make some 
additional points.

1.  I presume that you purchased the remoterig from Elecraft and that you have 
the RemoteRig cables from Elecraft to connect the remoterig not only to the 
K3/0-mini but the remote rig to the K3.  These cables provide the critical 
interconnects needed for the K3/0-mini to function properly.  The K3/0-mini 
manual does a nice job of explaining how to make the proper connections.

2.  I use a y-adapter to connect the remoterig PTT cable to the PTT port of the 
K3 so that the PTT switch I use at the K3 will still function.  There is no 
problem having both PTTs connected at the same time.  This will allow the K3 go 
to into transmit by command of the remoterig or by the handswitch at the shack.

3.  I use a stereo y-adapter to connect the Remoterig Audio cable to the 
Speaker port of the K3 so that audio will be fed to both outputs.  This setup 
does cause my external speakers at the station to change volume when remote 
operating as it also provides audio to the Remoterig. In other words, the AF 
volume on the K3/0-mini will control both audio outputs.  Since I’m not at the 
station when operating remote and no one is around, having the speakers active 
doesn’t bother anyone.  If the K3 is located where audio might bother others, 
then either turn off the speakers (if they’re powered) or install a cutoff 
switch/unplug the speaker(s).  

4.  Keep in mind that the K3/0-mini controls what the K3 is doing as the 
K3/0-mini front panel is duplicating what the K3 is showing on its panel. That 
is, as you increase audio on the K3, it is also potentially increasing audio of 
speakers at the shack. If you set a parameter on the K3/0-mini, it is 
displaying what the K3 front panel is showing as that adjustment is made.  One 
area to note is how microphone management is done.  The Remoterig uses the rear 
mic connector of the K3.  Thus, on the K3/0-mini, you must use the K3 Menu to 
set the mic source to the rear connector.  If the mic connected to the 
K3/0-mini needs bias, you set that through the remoterig configuration.   In 
other words, mic selection through the K3 menu has nothing to do with the mic 
input of the K3/0-mini itself; rather it determines the mic input used by the 
K3 itself.  Both the 8-pin connector on the front panel of the K3/0-mini and 
the side Mic connector are active.  Thus, mic selection using the K3/0-mini 
does determine whether the mic input is from the Remoterig (rear mic) or from 
the K3 itself (front mic).  

5. Management of the KAT500 and KPA500 can be done several different ways.  
Clearly, basic operation of both units will work the same as before if the 
appropriate cable connections are installed as described in the Elecraft 
manuals.  One can use a remote connection to a PC in the shack and use the 
Elecraft utilities.  I prefer to manage the KPA500 with the Remoterig RC-1216H 
which provides a web-based display of the KPA500 front panel and is connected 
to the amplifier through a RS-232 connection.  This allows me to manage the 
amplifier with any PC, Mac, iOS device, etc.   I have port forwarding set up at 
the station so that I can access the RC-1216H directly.  As the RS-232 
connection is attached to the RC-1216H, I cannot use the KPA500 utility from 
the shack computer. However, I don’t see that as a problem.  

The KAT500 can be managed using the PC in the shack and then remotely 
connecting to the shack computer to manage the KAT500 running on the shack 
computer.   I manage the KAT500 one of two ways.  I’ve installed a 
serial-to-ethernet converter (Lantronics) which allows me to directly connect 
to the KAT500 remotely and run the KAT500 utility on the PC where I am.  Or, I 
can have the PC in the shack connect to that same serial-to-ethernet converter 
and run the KAT500 software on that machine.  In this instance, I use VNC 
Connect to access the shack computer using any PC, Mac, iOS device, etc.  
Sidenote: If I didn’t have the RC-1216H, I’d probably be managing the KPA500 
the same way.  

6.  Lastly, please keep in mind that if you’re intending to remotely operate 
from a significant distance from the shack, it is imperative that you test 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500 remote control using serial port

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:



> On Nov 8, 2019, at 11:12 PM, DAVID INGEBRIGHT  wrote:
> 
> I have the KAT-500 Utility working fine through the serial cable and USB. Now 
> to get it running over the internet on the RRC 1258. Using the RRC COM 2 
> Port, the set up wants to know the serial protocol, The stop bits, the data 
> bits and the parity. I see someone asked that back in 2014 but can't seem to 
> find the answer. Cannot find this info in the KAT500 manual.

I’m using a Lantronics EDS4100 to convert serial-to-ethernet at the shack to 
forward KAT500 serial data from the ham shack to my location.  I’m running 
Win10 Pro under Parallels on a Macbook Pro running the KAT500 utility software 
and Lantronics software to convert ethernet back to serial.  This allows the 
Elecraft KAT500 utility where I am to ’see’ the KAT500 at the shack.

My EDS4100 has Com9 configured for RS232, 34800 baud, None, 8,1, None.  The 
first “None” is for parity and the second “None” is for flow control.  As 
noted, it is 8-bit, 1 stop bit, and no parity.


Hope this helps, 

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX


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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

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Bill:



> On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:17 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> How do you plan to connect the iPad to the radio?  The K3 typically connects 
> thru a RS232 or USB port.  Neither are available on an iPad. 


Is your question direct at me?  in your reply,   I’m the ’to’ addressee and 
Howard is the ‘info’ addressee so I’m presuming that your query is meant for 
me. 

As I indicated, there isn’t a way to connect the iPad directly to an Elecraft 
device.  The only examples I provided are 1) adding a web interface to the 
KAT500 in order to control it through the RR-1216H and 2) using an iPad App 
that interacts with a PC.  Of course, there are other ways to control a PC 
remotely with an iPAD such as by using TeamViewer or VNCViewer. 

I can’t speak for Howard, but his query is presumably based upon a desired 
result without necessarily coming up with a solution on how it would be done.  
I’d be thrilled if Remote Rig offered more options for the RR-1216H to control 
the KAT500 or even the K3.  A web interface attached to the device in question 
through RS-232 gets around a number of issues, including serial-to-ethernet 
conversion, avoiding the need to run Windows PC programs (Elecraft utilities of 
various flavors), and opens the door for using smartphones, tablets, MacOS 
computers, etc. to access Elecraft devices. Given that I run my HF station 
remotely for the vast amount of time that I use it, making it easier to access 
it without having to run Windows either in the shack or where I’m located 
significantly enhances and simplifies the management of my remote system.  The 
K3/IO-mini certainly enhances the remote capability of controlling a K3, but it 
is only one part of the station architecture that an operator has to manage for 
full remote functionality.

I’m presuming that when the K4 is released that it will be the start of a 
pathway for Elecraft to provide simplified remote access as well.  That said, 
there are presumably scads of existing Elecraft devices in service that their 
owners would benefit from new product offerings that provide a web interface.  


73,

Barry, WD4ASW
Keller, TX


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> 
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Barry Baines via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Howard:
>> 
>> I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
>> you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
>> program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
>> accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year 
>> and it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.
>> 
>> In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
>> RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
>> RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 
>> and a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating 
>> remotely.  The RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as 
>> far as I know there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can 
>> be accessed with any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, 
>> etc.
>> 
>> At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
>> amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their 
>> PGXL amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may 
>> develop a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated 
>> equipment.
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
>> Keller, TX
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
>>> the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Howard:

I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year and 
it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.

In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 and 
a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating remotely.  The 
RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as far as I know 
there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can be accessed with 
any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, etc.

At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their PGXL 
amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may develop 
a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated equipment.


Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
> 
> Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
> the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] Lantronix UDS2100

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Hans:

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Hans Johansson  wrote:
> 
> I have a KPA500 and a KAT500 at my remote QTH and I want to
> remote control them over Internet. For this I am planning to use
> a Lantronix UDS2100 ethernet-serial server at the remote radio site.
> Is there anyone on this list who has experience of controlling the PA
> and Tuner via Internet with KPA500 remote and KAT500 remote
> programs in the computer at the control site.\

I’m using a Lantronix EDS4100 to provide the Ethernet-to-Serial conversion.  I 
specifically use this for the KAT500 where I convert the serial to ethernet and 
then use the Lantronix software to convert back to serial on my laptop at the 
location where I am.  Through port forwarding I can specify the Lantronix 
device remotely for configuration/monitoring using a web browser.  The ham 
station is in Southeast Georgia (near the Florida border) and I connect to my 
station when I’m in Texas or Massachusetts.  

I also used the same Lantronics device for a second serial port to connect with 
my rotor controller.  However, I’m now using the Remote Rig R1216H which can 
control a Green Heron Rotor Controller. I also use a second R1216H to access 
and control the KPA500 rather than use the Lantronix device to connect through 
a serial connection.  The key advantage of this approach is that I can manage 
both the KPA500 and Green Heron RT-21 via a web browser using any device that 
has a browser (MacOS, iPhone, iPad, etc.).  The Lantronics works well, but can 
only be used with a Windows PC as their software for converting 
ethernet-to-serial is Windows only. I do run Windows on a Mac via Parallels 
software and run the Elecraft KAT500 utility, and the Lantronics port software 
works well in that environment.  


> The control way will thus be:
> Control computer - router - internet - router - Lantronix server - KPA500
> and KAT500
> 

I have no experience with the UDS2100, but it appears to be a more advanced 
device than the EDS4100, so I would expect that it will meet your needs.  

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX


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Re: [Elecraft] RemoteRig Units

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Brian:

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Brian F. Wruble  wrote:
> 
> I may need to buy another unit for my K3.  I just discovered that they are
> no longer sold through the Elecraft website.  Is that correct?
> 
> Do I buy directly from RemoteRig?  Are they available anyplace else?

The Elecraft website still lists the Remote Rig units (RRC-1258MKII) for use 
with the K3/0-mini with pricing but there aren’t images showing what the 
products look like.   I was also able to add the Remote Rig 1258MKII  to the  
website’s ‘cart’ so presumably that means they are still available.

An alternative source is Ham Radio Outlet.  The last time I looked, they were 
selling the entire line of Remote Rig products.  However, RRC-1258MKII units 
purchased through HRO would require the user installing the proper internal 
jumpers to work with Elecraft whereas the version offered by Elecraft are 
preconfigured for their products.  HRO also offers the RC-1216H that provides a 
web-based interface to remotely manage the KPA-500 as well as certain rotors 
such as the Green Heron RT-21.  I purchased two RC-1216H devices - one to 
control my KPA-500  and the second to control my Orion rotor through the Green 
Heron controller.  I just wish they expanded their product’s capability to also 
manage the KAT500!

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX
(Currently in Boston, MA)


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Re: [Elecraft] Copy cat - no way

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Wayne et al:

> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Charlie T  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, it IS some significant competition, especially since the "PX3" is 
>> built-in eh?
>> 
>> 
>> Charlie k3ICH
>> 
> 
> It's an interesting radio for those who need built-in VHF/UHF.
> 
> But there are major differences between the KX2/KX3 and '705 for those doing 
> lightweight outdoor operation:
> 
> - KX3 is half the size and 33% lighter; KX2 is one-third the size and weight
> - KX3 has max power out of 15 W, KX2 12 W (vs. 10 W); KX2 can put out 10 W on 
> internal battery
> - the KX3/KX2 LCD is very high contrast, easily readable in bright sunlight
>(I've seen the '7300 display in sunlight, and it's almost completely 
> washed out)
> - both KX-line rigs have a built-in wide-range ATU (not mentioned in the '705 
> brochure)
> - both work with an attached keyer paddle
> - both have far lower current drain (0.15-0.25 A vs. estimated 0.8-1.0 amps)
> - the '705s internal battery is only 2 AH/7.4 V = 14.8 WH; the KX2's is
>  2.5 AH and 11 V = 27.5 WH, and the KX3 can be used with 8x Lithium AA, 3A @ 
> 12V = 36 WH
> 
> The other head-scratching design choice is the lack of any sort of tilt stand 
> for angled use. If you use it as shown on a desktop, with the display at 90 
> degrees and no feet, it will be very hard to push buttons, and when you do, 
> the rig will slide backwards. If you place it on its back with the display 
> facing up, operation would be awkward in many field situations. Hand-held 
> operation also seems unlikely (something you can easily do with a KX2 or even 
> a KX3).


Another question is whether the IC-705 will support full duplex operation (e.g. 
UHF/VHF) that satellite operators need for working linear and FM satellites.  
I’m not aware of any current field radio that does UHF/VHF full duplex.  Most 
satellite operators typically end up using two radios for linear satellite 
contacts which adds complexity and bulk.

A second question is how it might work as a mobile rig.  It isn’t clear from 
the photos I’ve seen whether there is a mounting arrangement that would work 
well in a vehicle.  The fact that the new model is a ‘705’ suggests a 
connection to the IC-706, which works well as a mobile rig with an 
easy-to-mount control head and a base that provides 100 watts.  One has to 
wonder if Icom will eventually provide for the IC-705 a 100 watt HF option or a 
UHF/VHF option as an external amplifier for mobile use.  


FWIW.

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Re: [Elecraft] 4K Ultra High Def version of Elecraft K4 Q&A Video Posted by NG7M

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Jeff:

> On May 30, 2019, at 1:46 AM, Jeff Scaparra  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely and I am very excited to see a top manufacturer giving what
> looks like will be first class support for Linux. What I was most excited
> to see though was that the radio looked like it might be running a
> mainstream Linux distro. My personal opinion is that giving the consumer
> the option to have access to that would really open up the possibilities
> with this radio (and help many to justify the cost). If my radio can run
> all the software I need for all my communications, logging, etc... I don't
> have to worry how I have emergency power for the radio AND a laptop or
> computer for field day or actual emergencies. I can only have a plan for
> 12V emergency power (battery, solar, ...) and I don't need an inverter or
> generator or worry about boost/buck converters for my other non 12v
> equipment. My only real fear is that before the release Elecraft would lock
> that down so that the consumer doesn't have a way to at a minimum unlock
> the underlying OS to use in this way. I fully understand that some won't
> want to deal with the underlying OS but I also think there are many that
> would. External monitors that run off 12 v are also easy found due to the
> car market (
> https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Computer-Display-Security-Speaker/dp/B0779PM23K/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=12v+hdmi+monitor&qid=1559195100&s=gateway&sr=8-8
>  
> <https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Computer-Display-Security-Speaker/dp/B0779PM23K/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=12v+hdmi+monitor&qid=1559195100&s=gateway&sr=8-8>

I took a look at the link you provided and discovered that the monitor has a 
max resolution of 1024 x 600.  This is a relatively low resolution in today’s 
display environment compared to a current generation 12” laptops (such as the  
Dell Latitude) which has a default resolution of 1920 x 1080.   Given the size 
of the monitor screen (10.5”) I also presume that there wouldn’t be much 
‘effective coverage’ for displaying whatever software may be running. 

FWIW, I run a Dell Latitude laptop in my vehicle for a variety of data decoding 
purposes (primarily railroad signal data, EOT/HOT and distributed power unit 
transmissions) that decodes packets transmitted in the VHF and UHF bands using 
a variety of analog and SDR receivers.  Being able to quickly scan a screen and 
not have to scroll the screen makes a huge difference in usability and safety.  
Whether there are 10-12” mobile monitors that can handle 1920 x 1080 is not 
something that I’ve looked for.  Presumably this criteria would be something 
that would be needed in the instance you’re outlining.

I would also suspect that whatever version of Linux may be in the K4, the real 
constraint would be how the effective capacity of the built-in system to manage 
the K4 to also handle non-K4 activities.  I can tell you that the FlexRadio 
Systems Maestro has a built-in tablet display (apparently running a version of 
Windows) that has no provision for the user to run non-Flex software.  If FRS 
were to add this capability, it would likely increase the cost of the product 
to provide a more robust tablet that could handle the appropriate data storage 
and presumably split-screen requirements.  It would also introduce other 
potential issues in terms of security and the potential virus infection.  Given 
that FRS controls ‘firmware updates’ for Maestro, their approach presumably 
reduces the prospects for nefarious intrusion.  

Also keep in mind that adding capabilities such as handling data streams for 
various comm programs may also increase the internet bandwidth requirements 
when operating remotely.  I don’t know what the ‘minimum’ bandwith will be to 
operate a K4 remote system.  The K3  & K3/IO-Mini system using Remote Rig has 
very low requirements given that there is no panadapter/waterfall display and 
only audio and control are exchanged between the two units with the audio 
codecs configurable to take into account internet upload limitations.Given 
that remote operation may entail low-speed internet (e.g. as noted during the 
Remote Operating Forum given Friday morning of the just concluded Hamvention, 
“Locations with excellent internet service have poor RF conditions and 
locations with excellent RF conditions have poor internet service”), the 
ability to manage internet bandwidth in order to provide a reliable connection 
to operate is an important consideration.  FRS has significantly improved their 
SmartLink system to work more effectively at slower upload speeds though it 
still requires more bandwidth than the K3 system (for obvious reasons-FRS has 
built-in Panadapter/Waterfall display).

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston MA where I remotely operate my ham station in rural SE 
Georgia using both Elecraft and Flex systems)





> ).
> 
> 

Re: [Elecraft] Hara Arena Hit by Tornado

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Wayne:


> On May 28, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> I heard Xenia was also affected. Anyone know the status of Greene County 
> Fairgrounds buildings?

I’ve seen no reports about the Fairgrounds (which is a good thing).  There are 
news reports of trees down in Greene County (which includes Xenia and 
Beavercreek) and a barn damaged probably due to a tornado.  There are also 
electrical outages.

The fact that the Fairgrounds was not mentioned in local news coverage probably 
means that the Fairgrounds did not take a direct hit.  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Roslindate, MA)


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Re: [Elecraft] KX-2 Remote

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Bob:

> On May 14, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> Consider adding a local phone and a touchtone decoder to do some basic 
> functions, on off, resets, and etc.  More reliable than the internet and it 
> makes the station "legal" having a secondary means of control. 

The Elecraft K3/RRC-1258MKII package recognizes when a connection is lost and 
will not command the K3 to transmit once connectivity is lost.  The Flex 
configurations I use also recognize when external control is lost.   Given that 
these radio manufacturers provide products with ‘positive control’ for remote 
operating and the manufacturers don’t provide any instructions on the need for 
’secondary means of control’, my presumption is that using these products does 
not require a telco backup to legally use their products.

As an example of how well the Elecraft/RRC-1258MKII approach works:  I was in 
Texas and tried to turn on the K3.  No joy. The LCD screen of the K3/IO-Mini 
had an error message indicating that PTT was on as the radio was being powered 
up and would not complete the connection process to prevent inadvertent 
transmission. When I got to Georgia I tried to power up the K3 and saw the same 
error message on the K3 and it wouldn’t fully ‘boot’ (e.g. no receiver).  I 
subsequently discovered that somehow the external PTT switch assembly (which 
has a momentary PTT as well as separate lockable on position) at the ham shack 
was somehow left in the ‘locked on’ condition.  Removed the PTT lock and the K3 
booted normally and subsequent test with the K3/IO-Mini confirmed that it was 
working as well.  Nice.

That said. presumably the key control is the ability to prevent the transmitter 
from operating.  One way to do this would be to turn off the 12VDC feeding the 
transceiver.  So the approach I use is a R4005i for internet access that feeds 
12 VDC output to the radio so that it adds a second means of powering down the 
transceiver (the first being the radio’s remote on/off connection.) The R4005i 
output port would be ‘on’ to provide 12 VDC to power the transceiver.

In my case, I use a separate R4005i to provide power to each transceiver.  This 
is particularly helpful with the Flex because I can force a master reboot by 
removing power to the transceiver in addition to controlling through remote 
on/off via a relay.  True, I’m using internet as the only conduit into the 
shack, but I do have the ability to inhibit transmitter operation through 
multiple means.  I always turn off the radios when not in use as the turning 
off the K3/IO-mini turns off the K3 as well .  For the Flex I can access the 
R4005i to shut down Remote on/off as well as do master shutdown as a matter of 
course.  Given that the shack is in SE Georgia where thunderstorms are 
prevalent , I alway power down when not in use as well as isolate the antenna 
connection through use of a Paradan Antenna Disconnect Device for each 
transceiver that disconnects the coax when power is removed from the 
transceiver.

73,

Barry WD4ASW


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Re: [Elecraft] KX-2 Remote

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ection.  With only 768Kbps upload at the shack, I had no 
problems with audio quality while controlling the K3 as the remote site was 
uploading to the internet from other devices for other purposes simultaneously.

B. The Remote Rig RC-1216H provides a web interface capable of controlling a 
variety of amplifiers and rotor controllers. I have one to control my KPA500 
and one to control a Green Heron rotor.

C. I use a Digital Loggers Web Power Switch Pro to remotely turn on/off AC 
devices.  The system can be configured for each AC port (there are 8) to power 
off, a timer can be configured for a desired interval, and then automatically 
turn power back on. This allows me to reset my DSL modem, my router, the 
radio’s power supply, and other devices as needed.  Again, equipment can 
‘hiccup’ so being able to restart something as needed is very handy.  The Web 
Pro Power Switch can also be configured to determine if an internet connection 
is lost and if so, power cycle the modem and router.  

D. For devices that use 12 VDC, I use a West Mountain Radio R4005i that allows 
web access to control five ports.  This allows me to remotely turn on/off 
preamps, other radios, etc.  

E. I setup DDNS and port forwarding within the router at the remote site to be 
able to access the Remote Rig setup,  Digital Logger and other devices.  This 
allows easy connection to access everything in the shack from anywhere.  Each 
device has its own UDP/TCP port identifier so that using a browser makes it 
possible to access individual devices.  

F. I will also note that I have a KAT500 tuner which does require a PC 
connection to be able to control remotely. However, I installed a Lantronics 
Serial-to-Ethernet converter that allows a PC where I am to access the KAT500 
directly without having to use the PC in the shack.  Hopefully, Remote Rig will 
someday modify the RC-1216H to be able to control the KAT500 through a web 
interface.  

My system has also evolved considerably since 2014 when I purchased my 
K3/KPA500/KAT500   I’ve added web-based devices to control my system.  I added 
the Digital Loggers device and the Lantronics serial interface.  I added an 
Antenna Genius that can be remotely accessed as well as configured for 
automatic band changes.  I also use a Flex given that SmartLink 2.x was 
introduced in 2017 that made it possible to remotely connect to my Flex-6700 
through SmartSDR, SmartSDR for iOS, DogParkSDR, and Maestro without a PC in the 
shack and my DSL in Georgia now has 2 Mpbs upload speed that can support the 
wider bandwidth requirements of Flex products.  

Bottom line is that it takes a considerable amount of time and effort (and 
money) to install a robust and reliable remote site.  Reliability and ability 
to manage your equipment remotely are critical for sustained performance.  If 
the system is offline and can’t be put back into service within a ‘reasonable 
period’ (whatever that means to you), then you’ve gained nothing.  Remote 
operation allows me to operate HF anytime as there are restrictions to 
installing such a system where I am in Texas and New England.  Given the 
benefits that it has provided me, I believe it has been worth the investment in 
dollars and sweat equity.  


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX
(Currently in Boston, MA)









> 
> Is it possible to "hotwire" the KX2 so it's ON all the time?  Then I could
> re-start it remotely by putting the 12V supply on a USB controlled relay.
> I'll be living 12 time zones away and need this to be very reliable.  The
> setup will be in a friend's summer cottage and he's only there a few times
> a year.
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
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> So Phisai, Thailand
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile high power

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Wayne:

> On May 6, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> My Prius is so dependent on embedded processors that I take no chances -- I 
> run only 10 W mobile. Yes, it's harder to make contacts, but my car doesn't 
> have E-peleptic seizures.


Your comment about the Prius raises a broader question:

Given:
-RF susceptibility of computers in vehicles
-Moon roofs that run from stem to stern making it impossible to install roof 
mounted antennas
-Passenger compartments that make it difficult to install mobile rig front 
panels
-Electrical systems and battery electronics that make it more difficult to 
“tap” 12VDC/10 amp or higher amperage sources to power ‘user provided devices’; 
and
-Grounding considerations

Are there currently any new make/model ‘ham friendly' vehicles that would be 
appropriate to install amateur radio equipment such as VHF/UHF mobile rigs?

I currently drive a 2006 Volvo XC70 wagon with 457,000 miles where I have five 
roof mounted VHF/UHF antennas shared amongst three amateur transceivers (DMR 
and Analog), two SDR receivers, and two 900 MHz receivers.  I’ve been holding 
off purchasing a new vehicle in part due to the uncertainty whether it is 
possible to properly install amateur equipment along with concerns with the 
‘quirks’ of various car manufacturer’s infotainment systems.  

I’d appreciate comments from those on this list that have recent experiences in 
purchasing new vehicles and installing amateur gear in stations wagons, SUVs or 
Crossovers that I should consider in my ‘vehicle search.’  I travel extensively 
between the DFW Metroplex, Southeast Georgia and New England;  having amateur 
radio (and railroad voice and data monitoring) gear with me is a critical 
consideration.  

Thanks,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
K3-KPA500-KAT500 owner
(Currently in Boston. MA)


> 
> Computers in general are not very RFI-proof. I discovered this the hard way 
> when I was running 100 W to an end-fed wire directly connected to the radio. 
> Disks spin up, mysterious boot sequences get kicked off, NSFW images flicker 
> subliminally across the screen (or was that just my imagination?).
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 7:22 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone considered the liability of running very high power mobile?
>> What if you're running a KW, and gave a call on 20M.  Suddenly,  the guys
>> brakes in the vehicle next to you locked up causing a multiple vehicle
>> crash?
>> I realize this is an extremely hypothetical and unlikely case, but these
>> smart vehicle computer systems can't be all THAT immune to all sorts of RFI.
>> 
>> I know the cruise control my 2000 Dakota would mysteriously jump 5 MPH if I
>> keyed up with only 25 watts on 222MHz. 
>> It would return to it's previous setting when I un-keyed.   VERY
>> disconcerting eh?
>> 
>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
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Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?

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Bill:

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was emphasized. 
> The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly low key, with 
> nothing new and earth shattering.

Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 
featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx series 
transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with SmartSDR and 
a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same time)?  Given the focus 
on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering what the crowd reaction might 
have been to this newly released capability?  

I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users are 
being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what advantages 
it brings to their operating experience.  However, there appears to be 
significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as well as single 
operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of transceivers and 
associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two operations using the 
same transceiver to share the same antenna. 

I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest 
operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and 
software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to see 
whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate to 
tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other equipment 
manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements.  

73,
Barry, WD4ASW 

> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote:
> 
>> Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX 
>> Convention?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: As remote Base

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Dave:

> On Apr 11, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am considering the use of a remote base type of setup to get away from the 
> RFI in my area.  I have finally given up on trying to fight it, and want to 
> move the rig away from the city, as opposed to hunting down and correcting 
> every new RFI source endlessly.
> 
> My station consists of a KPA500, P3, and K3.  I am using a P3 external 
> keyboard, running an external computer to do FT8, and finally CW via the 
> radio, not using a computer.
> 
> Is there a system which would allow the same functionality I now have, 
> remotely via the Internet?

Remote operation is certainly feasible, but it does introduce new 
considerations/tradeoffs.  I’ve been operating remote since purchasing my K3 
system in 2014 specifically for remote operation.  About 80% of my operating is 
done remotely.  

1.  I use a K3/IO-mini with the Remote Rig setup to control the K3 because the 
K3/IO-Mini front panel is the same as the K3 and I avoid the need to use a 
computer to control the K3.

2.  I control the KPA-500 using the Remote Rig RC-1216H as it provides a 
web-based front panel that matches the KPA-500.  As it is a web-based 
interface, I can use any device (Mac, ioS iPhone or iPAD, Windows PC) to access 
the KPA-500 front panel.

3.  I have the KAT-500 Tuner which I am forced to run the Elecraft Utility to 
manage it.  I have a serial-to-ethernet converter in the ham shack and my 
network at the ham shack location is linked to my location (through VPN)  so 
that the Windows computer at my location will connect to the KAT-500 serial 
interface.  

4. I do not have access to my P3 operating remotely.  Others have installed 
video cams aimed at their P3 to forward imagery to their location to see what 
the P3 is displaying.   Others who do this may have some thoughts on managing 
the P3 remotely.

5. Antenna selection is done using an Antenna Genius from 4O3A.  There are a 
total of 8 antenna ports and two radio ports.  The K3 system is connected to 
Port A and communicates with the Elecraft through BCD to select the antenna 
based upon the band that the K3 is set (e.g. 10-15-20 goes to the tribander, 
other bands such as 40 and 80 to an EFHW with additional ports for a dummy load 
and future 6M antenna).  The Elecraft interface to the AG is based upon Y-boxes 
developed by Bob Wilson, N6TV.  See:  https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Y-BOX/ 
<https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Y-BOX/>

Antenna Genius Port B is used by my Flex-6700 Antenna Port ‘1” and associated 
hardware.  The Flex communicates directly with the AG through a CAT5/Local Area 
Network connection.  

I also use the AG utility but it can only run in Windows and works with a 
remote connection through VPN.  

My primary use for the K3 is voice communications, so I have not delved into 
digital modes (yet).   My presumption is that operating digital may require 
using the PC in the ham shack to do the actual digital operation while 
connecting to the shack PC via Team Viewer or other remote access software to 
manage the process.  Again, others who are actually doing digital modes while 
operating remote may have specific suggestions.  

Overall, I’ve been very pleased with the K3 setup operating remotely.  The 
Codec(s) used by Remote Rig require very low bandwidth while providing 
excellent audio.  As my station is located in rural SE Georgia where internet 
access (at best) is typically 768 Kbps upload/20 Mbps download, I have no 
problems running the K3 remotely while using SSB.  While I also enjoy the Flex 
(particularly since SmartSDR v2 was introduced that allows remote connection), 
slow internet is better handled by the K3 system because of the Remote Rig 
audio Codecs and the lack of panadapter/waterfall display that can take up 
bandwidth.  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW


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Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Andy:

> On Mar 29, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft 
>  wrote:

snip...
> 
> 
> 
> I’m sure there’s something in the works but I see nothing from the developers 
> themselves to say so and the next version of MacOS seems to be only weeks 
> away. 

Apple has a tradition of announcing the next release of Operating Systems (eg. 
macOS, iOS, WatchOS. tvOS, etc.) at the annual World Wide Developers Conference 
(WWDC) that takes place in June.  This year’s event is scheduled for 3-7 Jun 19 
in San Jose.  Traditionally, WWDC is an opportunity for announcing upcoming 
product releases for both software and hardware products.  Typically, software 
announcements made in June are not actually released until late September or 
early October.  This has been the case for a number of years.  

Consequently, while Apple has already made it clear (back in 2017) to software 
developers that the 2019 release of macOS (v10.15) will not support 32-bit 
applications (in the hope that the ‘heads up’ will prompt them to update their 
software), little else has been revealed about what enhancements/improvements 
will be incorporated into the 2019 release of macOS.  These new 
features/enhancements will likely be touted at the next WWDC.  In any event, 
don’t expect ’the next version of macOS (e.g. v10.15) to be available until the 
Fall, though security and other incremental updates to the current version 
(macOS 10.14.x) will likely take place before the next major release.  This 
week Apple released incremental updates for MacOS (v10.14.4). iOS (v12.2), 
watchOS (v5.2) and tvOS (v12.2).  Hopefully, the next six months before actual 
OS Product release will give time to developers to update their software.

That said, it is also true that developers may decide NOT to update their 
software for whatever reason (cost, changing marketplace, gone out-of-business, 
other priorities, etc.).  iOS went through a similar OS update in 2016 when iOS 
v11 was released removing 32-bit app support.  Apple announced in October 2014 
that iOS would no longer 32-bit apps in future iOS versions.  A number of iOS 
apps I was using were no longer usable with v11.x and the developers did not 
release a 64-bit version.  Fortunately, I had moved my data from those apps 
because iOS v10.3 that came out in January 2017 had provided a ‘heads up’ that 
apps that I had would not work with the next update.  That gave me time to make 
a less frantic transition before iOS v11.0  (64-bit apps only) was released in 
Fall 2017.

Of course, consumers are not required to update whatever macOS is applicable to 
their products if favorite software will not work with the an OS update. It is 
also true that as products get older they may no longer be eligible for OS 
updates anyway.  I’m running macOS v10.13.6 on my 2010 MacPro instead of macOS 
10.14.x because the video card is not capable of handling ‘dark mode’ that is 
part of macOS v10.14.x and there isn’t a current generation after-market video 
card suitable for my MacPro that retains full Mac Video functionality.  There 
are video cards out there that can be physically installed, but they don’t have 
Mac drivers native to them.  

Of course, Windows users are not necessarily out-of-the-woods when it comes to 
OS changes.  With the ‘end of life’ for Windows 7 in January 2020, many 
individuals who have this OS (including yours truly) will need to decide next 
steps regarding their trusty PCs or virtual machines still running this 
software. I saw one estimate that 40% of currently active PCs are running Win7. 
 Whereas Apple provides OS updates/upgrades for free, Microsoft is not as 
generous.  Those that have Win 7 PCs or VMs that are capable of running Win10 
will need to decide whether to invest the $139.00 to download an upgrade to 
Win10 or perhaps convert to Windows 8 (support lasts to 10 JAN 23).  Those with 
PCs that are not compatible with a newer OS will have to determine whether to 
invest in newer hardware.. One alternative to not upgrading is to pay a monthly 
subscriber fee (that will increase each year; specific pricing to be announced) 
to continue to receive Win 7 security updates starting in Januay for up to 
three years .

Of course, converting to Win10 also encompasses a ‘learning curve’ given that 
Microsoft decided to update the ‘look and feel’ (for whatever reason) such that 
someone familiar with Win7 has to learn how Win10 is organized/functions.  I 
ended up putting a Win7 “Classic Shell” on a Dell laptop running Win10 so that 
i didn’t have to be ‘reprogrammed’ in order to manage/utilize it.  Given that 
Apple has not altered the ‘essentials’ of using macOS as annual upgrades are 
released (for free), my preference will continue to be Apple, recognizing that 
for certain functions, Windows OS is necessary.

“Aging Obsolescence” is a continuing challenge with electronics that continues 
to function but no longer meets current technical ‘expect

Re: [Elecraft] new K3/0 Mini

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mitch:

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX  wrote:
> 
> Barry,
> 
> Understand your standpoint now, but that is the opposite of what you wrote 
> below.  You said that you wanted to be able to run the KAT-500 utility 
> remotely, which prompted me to let you know about the serial servers that 
> would be the solution. The Apple part of course makes that somewhat more 
> complicated.

I don’t believe I changed anything in my posting.  I originally stated that I 
was already controlling the KAT500 remotely through a serial-to-ethernet 
interface.  (My original post stated, "What I miss is the direct 
controllability of the KAT500 which requires the KAT500 utility to be 
controlled remotely.  I’ve done this using a Serial-to-Ethernet converter, but 
I don’t like it because it requires a PC to run it”)   By “direct 
controllability” I mean not using a PC running specific software (KAT500 
utility)  requiring virtual com ports and instead using a web-based interface 
such as the RC-1216H for ease of use and compatibility with a multitude of 
devices to control it.  Until such an interface is available, however, I’m 
forced to stick with the current solution of using a PC, virtual serial 
port(s), serial-to-ethernet converter, and KAT500 utility software.  

Much about remote operating boils down to personal preference.  There is no 
‘right’ answer; rather how one uses their station,  lessons learned over time, 
and new technical offerings will cause evolution of how ‘best’ it can be done 
on a case-by-case basis. How I manage my station today is totally different 
that what I did back in 2014.  

> 
> Hopefully someone on the list will now know about these devices which are 
> wonderful to use for remoting.


I agree these devices are very helpful;  without the Lantronics EDS4100 my 
setup would be much more “kludgy” to manage the KAT500 remotely.


73,

Barry, WD4ASW


> 
> 73,
> Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
> 
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> On 28.02.2019 14:52, Barry Baines wrote:
>> Mitch:
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Barry,
>>> 
>>> I have been using serial to ethernet servers for over 10 years to control 
>>> rotors, amplifiers and other serial devices. You set these up once and can 
>>> forget about them. You install a virtual serial port on the control PC for 
>>> which you can use any kind of client software to control that device, but 
>>> there is of course no web interface. No local PC on the radio side needs to 
>>> be running. I use these devices instead of the (expensive) dedicated 
>>> RC-1216H devices that only provide a web interface. My favorite ones are 
>>> the Lantronix UDS2100, which I have bought over Ebay.
>> I’m currently using the Lantronics EDS4100 serial-to-ethernet which works 
>> well.  As you note, one creates a virtual com port on the controlling PC 
>> running Windows.  This device can manage up to four serial ports at the 
>> remote site.  Thus, I have the virtual com configuration installed on 
>> Win-7Pro machine in the shack as well as on a Win10Pro virtual machine 
>> running on my MacBook Pro running Parallels that’s with me.
>> 
>> However, that’s the problem…  I want to use web-based devices because I have 
>> no desire to run a Windows in the shack or where I am.  A web-based device 
>> such as the RC-1216H is much more convenient, doesn’t require a PC to access 
>> and avoids having to specially configure the controlling computer such as is 
>> required to manage a Lantronics device that is only compatible with Windows 
>> OS.  I can’t tell you how many times I’ve used my iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, 
>> etc. to remotely manage my station to turn on/off devices (through West 
>> Mountain Radio’s 4005i) or even reboot computers (through Digital Loggers 
>> Pro Switch).
>> 
>>> Note that the WebSwitch 1216H (not the RC-1216H) allows rotor control and 
>>> also has a serial port server to provide a virtual serial port. This port 
>>> can however only be used for the rotor, plus the web interface and virtual 
>>> serial port can not be used at the same time.
>> 
>> To further clarify:
>> 
>> The RC-1216H can be configured to manage the KPA-500,  the SteppIR,  
>> ACOM-200A, Expert 1K-FA, and specific rotators.  According to the RC-1216H 
>> manual, “At the moment it support Prositel rotators with the D-type control 
>> box, AlfaSpid rotators, 

Re: [Elecraft] new K3/0 Mini

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mitch:

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX  wrote:
> 
> Barry,
> 
> I have been using serial to ethernet servers for over 10 years to control 
> rotors, amplifiers and other serial devices. You set these up once and can 
> forget about them. You install a virtual serial port on the control PC for 
> which you can use any kind of client software to control that device, but 
> there is of course no web interface. No local PC on the radio side needs to 
> be running. I use these devices instead of the (expensive) dedicated RC-1216H 
> devices that only provide a web interface. My favorite ones are the Lantronix 
> UDS2100, which I have bought over Ebay.

I’m currently using the Lantronics EDS4100 serial-to-ethernet which works well. 
 As you note, one creates a virtual com port on the controlling PC running 
Windows.  This device can manage up to four serial ports at the remote site.  
Thus, I have the virtual com configuration installed on Win-7Pro machine in the 
shack as well as on a Win10Pro virtual machine running on my MacBook Pro 
running Parallels that’s with me.  

However, that’s the problem…  I want to use web-based devices because I have no 
desire to run a Windows in the shack or where I am.  A web-based device such as 
the RC-1216H is much more convenient, doesn’t require a PC to access and avoids 
having to specially configure the controlling computer such as is required to 
manage a Lantronics device that is only compatible with Windows OS.  I can’t 
tell you how many times I’ve used my iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, etc. to 
remotely manage my station to turn on/off devices (through West Mountain 
Radio’s 4005i) or even reboot computers (through Digital Loggers Pro Switch).  

> 
> Note that the WebSwitch 1216H (not the RC-1216H) allows rotor control and 
> also has a serial port server to provide a virtual serial port. This port can 
> however only be used for the rotor, plus the web interface and virtual serial 
> port can not be used at the same time.


To further clarify:

The RC-1216H can be configured to manage the KPA-500,  the SteppIR,  ACOM-200A, 
Expert 1K-FA, and specific rotators.  According to the RC-1216H manual, “At the 
moment it support Prositel rotators with the D-type control box, AlfaSpid 
rotators,  rotators controlled by Green Heron control box and other rotators 
with serial interfaces with the DCU-1 protocol.”  In my case, the RC-1216H is 
compatible with the Green Heron RT-21 control box. Along with managing the 
rotor direction, jt can also power on/off the Green Heron controller through a 
relay box (such as  from West Mountain Radio) that allows 12 VDC to power 
on/off a 120 VAC device.  Keep the Green Heron power switch set to ‘on’ and I 
have  remote on/off capability for the Green Heron itself through the RC-1216H. 
   Thus, I have two RC-1216H devices:  one to manage the KPA500 and the other 
to manage my Green Heron/Orion rotor system.

The Webswitch 1216H is certainly an alternative for rotor control and people do 
get confused with the two model designations.  When I ordered the RC-1216H from 
HRO, they sent me the webswitch 1216H in error.  I like the RC-1216H because it 
is a simple RS232 cable connection between the RC-1216H and Green Heron;  
configure the RC-1216H to manage a rotor, and it basically works 
out-of-the-box.There are eight predefined aziumth bearings that can be 
labeled as well as the ability to direct the antenna to a specific bearing.  

In summary, the trend is for more seamless web-based management of remote 
devices both in the consumer market and amateur radio as it eliminates the need 
for specific hardware/software to remotely manage devices.  If I could replace 
using KAT-500 Utility software with a web-based device such as the RC-1216H  to 
manage the tuner, I could stick with running Apple devices (and avoid running 
Windows under Parallels on a MacBook Pro) and be able to fully control my K3 
station from anywhere (in conjunction with the K3/0-Mini).

73,

Barry, WD4ASW
(Keller, TX)



> 
> 73,
> Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] new K3/0 Mini

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

t installed, but the operating 
position has the real estate to handle it. (approximately 12 ft. x 30” of desk 
space).  

-Equipment Complexity:  The K3/0-Mini and Remote Rig RRC-1258 are relatively 
simple devices.  I’ve not had any issues with these devices and while there 
have been firmware upgrades they are few and not necessarily required.  The 
Maestro is a much more complex piece of equipment which is essentially a device 
with built-in tablet that takes significant time to boot up and has firmware 
that controls the various knobs and indications and of course communicates with 
the Flex server to establish a connection to my Flex-6700.  Any update to 
SmartSDR (the most recent was last December 2018 to v2.49 while Flex has 
announced that v3.0 will be available in March 2019) requires an update to the 
Flex-6700 and Maestro.  This can be done remotely, but it also reflects the 
greater complexity of the system.

My original Maestro (purchased new in 2017) has been recalled once at no charge 
and sent back once for non-warranty repairs.   

-Isolation.  Running remote reduces the potential for surge issues where I’m 
actually operating as there are no external antennas.  

At the ham shack in Southeast Georgia, I have the K3 equipment physically 
separate from the Flex Equipment going through separate ethernet switches and 
isolated with Fiber Optic Converters for CAT5 connections to help reduce the 
probability of surge problems or a  ethernet switch failure in the shack taking 
down both systems. RF connection of both systems to the antennas and dummy load 
is thorough an Antenna Genius which provides high isolation between antenna 
ports. The DSL modem and separate router are in the house while the ham shack 
itself is located in an air conditioned room located in the detached garage.  I 
run a fiber optic cable between the house and ham shack to further isolate the 
network equipment in the house from the shack. 

Bottom line is that I like both systems and each system offers capabilities 
that the other does not have.  Given that I’m over 1,100 miles from the ham 
shack most of the time, I’ve benefited from redundancy because things can go 
wrong and cannot be fixed until my next trip to southeast Georgia. Over the 
past year I’ve had issues with one or the other system but usually the other 
system is still up and running.  

From the user’s perspective, I do suggest that one needs to to carefully 
consider how exactly they will operate their system and what level of 
investment ($$$, sweat equity, real estate) they’re wiling or able to put into 
a remote system.  Flex’s approach is certainly successful, but it is a complex 
and more expensive system that has taken many more years to develop than what 
Flex initially announced.  Electraft’s approach is ’simpler’ in terms of making 
it possible to operate remotely, but it does appear relatively ‘kludgy’ given 
that it could certainly be streamlined if they thought it is worth the time and 
effort.If one is focused on ’pickup and go’ remote operation, the Flex 
Maestro (or SmartSDR on a laptop or SmartSDR for iOS on an Apple iPad) is 
certainly easier to manage than taking the K3/0-Mini with remote Rig setup.  i 
have transported both the Maestro and K3/0-Mini w/Remote Rig in their 
respective Pelican Cases between locations before so I appreciate the steps 
needed to take down and setup this equipment.  I later purchased used K3/O-Mini 
and Maestro devices to eliminate the need to transport (and take up space in my 
vehicle) between Texas (Fall/Winter) and New England (Spring/Summer) when cargo 
space is at a premium when transporting the XYL, family dog and the clothing 
and other items needed at the other QTH.   


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Keller, TX)



> 73,
> Fred
> AE4ED
> 
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 8:12 AM Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> any idea if will be a new control radio for remote? Like K3/0 Mini with
>> remoterig integrated inside it?
>> 
>> Maybe for Dayton will have it?
>> 
>> --
>> 73,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] simple remote control of KPA 500

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Howard:

> On Jan 27, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
> 
> I have need to have a simple remote control of my KPA 500 for a few weeks.
> I would like to be able to remotely power up the amp. It will already be in
> the mode to power up in operate mode.
> 
> I can only use an Iphone web interface to remotely power on the amp, no
> computers on either end. Any suggestions.
> 
> I can do this with my RRC interface and K30, but this need if for another
> application.


The ’simplest’ approach would be to install the Remote Rig RC-1216H to connect 
to the RS-232 connection of the KPA500 which provides a web interface to manage 
the KPA500 including controlling power on/off and standby/operate.   You get 
the same information that is available on the KPA500 front panel.  This is how 
I control my KPA500 remotely.

See:  http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010 
<http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010> . I also use one of these to 
remotely control my Green Heron RT-21 rotator.  

Ham Radio Outlet is a supplier for these devices. 

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Roslindale, MA) 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Key Line Interrupt when in BYP mode?

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mike:

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:
> 
> Dick from Elecraft answered my question.  The short answer to my question was 
> “no”.
> 
> To answer your question, yes the key line interrupt is set for 3.0:1 as it 
> should be. 


Thanks for the update and glad to hear that your question was answered.

That said, my reply was only based upon reading the KAT500 and KPA500 manuals.  
So I’m wondering how my attempt to be helpful resulted in a “misinterpretation” 
of what are in the manuals.  Does the VSWR threshold not work in Bypass mode, 
or is it something else that is in play?

I’m also wondering (perhaps Dick can answer this) at what point(s) the KPA500 
“soft” and “hard” faults kick-in on VSWR.  If you’re running at 3.0:1 VSWR with 
no issues, what are the set points for fault detection?

73, 

Barry, WD4ASW


> 
> Mike - K9JRI
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 13:01, Barry Baines  wrote:
>> 
>> Mike:
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Michael Blake via Elecraft 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the KAT500 is powered on but in the Bypass mode will it still open the 
>>> key line to the KPA500 at the preset level (3.0:1 in my case) if the load 
>>> suddenly goes above 3:1?
>> 
>> To confirm, is your SWR 3.0:1 or 2.0:1??
>> 
>> According to the KAT500 manual (page 21) you can use the KAT500 Utility 
>> Program to set VSWR thresholds for keying an amplifier, “Also, you can set 
>> an SWR threshold at which the key line will not close to enable the external 
>> amplifier to protect it from excessive SWR.”  These thresholds can be set 
>> for all bands or individual bands.  This would presumably work with bypass 
>> mode as bypass is defined as bypassing the tuning elements in the tuner’s 
>> matching network while the tuner’s SWR meter continues to function and the 
>> antenna selector will still switch to the antenna chosen for a particular 
>> band.  
>> 
>> I haven’t made adjustments using the Utility Program so I cannot speak from 
>> personal experience nor do I know what the default values are for VSWR 
>> threshold as I’m not currently where my ham station is to confirm.  You will 
>> need to experiment carefully to ensure that you get the intended results.
>> 
>> Also keep in mind that the KPA500 protects itself.  See page 19 of the 
>> KPA500 manual (“Fault Conditions”) which discusses SWR measurements by the 
>> KPA500 itself where “minor faults” in VSWR will result in a 3 dB reduction 
>> in output (“Attenuator Faults”) and continues to operate (if the SWR 
>> improves the attenuator is removed).  In the case of severe SWR problems the 
>> amplifier goes into standby (“Hard Faults”). Hard faults require 
>> intervention by the operator to place the amplifier in ‘operate’ presuming 
>> that the cause of the excessive SWR has been resolved.
>> 
>> The more basic question is what SWR levels the KPA500 will operate. 
>> According to the KPA500 manual (page 17) the amplifier is designed for 1.5:1 
>> or less (the amplifier SWR LEDs are green).  Between 1.5 and 2.1 the LEDs 
>> are yellow, and above 2.1 the LEDs are red.  I could not find a reference in 
>> the manual that defines at what SWR level an “attenuator fault” or a “hard 
>> fault” due to high SWR are generated, but this suggests that an attenuator 
>> fault presumably happens when SWR is above 2.1 which is why I’m wondering if 
>> there’s a typo in your first sentence regarding current SWR.
>> 
>> The KAT500 manual (page 21) also notes, “The Elecraft KPA500 amplifier also 
>> works efficiently into a load SWR of 1.5:1.  Suggested values are 1.8:1 to 
>> launch an automatic tuning operation and 1.2:1 for bypass.”   
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
>> (Currently in Boston, MA)
>> 
>>> 
>>> The situation is a remote autotuner connected to a 33’ vertical that I use 
>>> for bands that I do not have a resonant antenna.  On those bands the KAT500 
>>> is in the BYP mode.  A remote switch brings all of the antenna choices in 
>>> on a single coax which connected to the KAT500.
>>> 
>>> 73 - Mike - K9JRI
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Key Line Interrupt when in BYP mode?

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mike:

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Michael Blake via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> When the KAT500 is powered on but in the Bypass mode will it still open the 
> key line to the KPA500 at the preset level (3.0:1 in my case) if the load 
> suddenly goes above 3:1?

To confirm, is your SWR 3.0:1 or 2.0:1??

According to the KAT500 manual (page 21) you can use the KAT500 Utility Program 
to set VSWR thresholds for keying an amplifier, “Also, you can set an SWR 
threshold at which the key line will not close to enable the external amplifier 
to protect it from excessive SWR.”  These thresholds can be set for all bands 
or individual bands.  This would presumably work with bypass mode as bypass is 
defined as bypassing the tuning elements in the tuner’s matching network while 
the tuner’s SWR meter continues to function and the antenna selector will still 
switch to the antenna chosen for a particular band.  

I haven’t made adjustments using the Utility Program so I cannot speak from 
personal experience nor do I know what the default values are for VSWR 
threshold as I’m not currently where my ham station is to confirm.  You will 
need to experiment carefully to ensure that you get the intended results.

Also keep in mind that the KPA500 protects itself.  See page 19 of the KPA500 
manual (“Fault Conditions”) which discusses SWR measurements by the KPA500 
itself where “minor faults” in VSWR will result in a 3 dB reduction in output 
(“Attenuator Faults”) and continues to operate (if the SWR improves the 
attenuator is removed).  In the case of severe SWR problems the amplifier goes 
into standby (“Hard Faults”). Hard faults require intervention by the operator 
to place the amplifier in ‘operate’ presuming that the cause of the excessive 
SWR has been resolved.

The more basic question is what SWR levels the KPA500 will operate. According 
to the KPA500 manual (page 17) the amplifier is designed for 1.5:1 or less (the 
amplifier SWR LEDs are green).  Between 1.5 and 2.1 the LEDs are yellow, and 
above 2.1 the LEDs are red.  I could not find a reference in the manual that 
defines at what SWR level an “attenuator fault” or a “hard fault” due to high 
SWR are generated, but this suggests that an attenuator fault presumably 
happens when SWR is above 2.1 which is why I’m wondering if there’s a typo in 
your first sentence regarding current SWR.

The KAT500 manual (page 21) also notes, “The Elecraft KPA500 amplifier also 
works efficiently into a load SWR of 1.5:1.  Suggested values are 1.8:1 to 
launch an automatic tuning operation and 1.2:1 for bypass.”   


Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston, MA)

> 
> The situation is a remote autotuner connected to a 33’ vertical that I use 
> for bands that I do not have a resonant antenna.  On those bands the KAT500 
> is in the BYP mode.  A remote switch brings all of the antenna choices in on 
> a single coax which connected to the KAT500.
> 
> 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] internet speed for remote K3S

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:38 PM, David Cutter via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will soon be building a remote control station about 20miles away.  Both
> stations have access to broadband, but what speed will give satisfactory
> results?  

My experience operating remote is with a K3I/O-mini and Remote Rig interfaces.  
My station is 1,250 miles from where I’m currently located. The K3 transmitter 
site (Southeast Georgia) is in a rural setting that uses DSL with a downlink 
capability of about 20 Mbps and uplink capability of about 1 Mbps (the fastest 
speed available for residential customers).  The control location (Boston) with 
the K3/IO-Mini uses Comcast/Xfinity which provides a downlink capability of 90 
MBps and 6 Mbps uplink.  With this setup I have no problems using the K3/IO 
through the K3/IO-Mini with excellent audio and instantaneous management of the 
radio.  At the same, I’m using web-based interfaces (RR-1216H) to control the 
KPA500 amplifier and Green Heron RT-21 rotor controller.  

One of the advantages of Remote Rig is that there are various audio codec 
options available which can be set depending upon how much bandwidth is 
available.  My remote rig setup uses a relatively low audio setting (16 KHz) 
but the audio sounds fine to my ears and I have no problem with this setup.  I 
haven’t experimented with higher audio settings in part because I have other 
devices feeding data through that 1 MB Uplink as well.

Bottom line is that if you have true “broadband” at both locations, I wouldn’t 
expect any problems.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston, MA)












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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mitch:


> On Jul 26, 2018, at 3:45 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX  wrote:
> 
> Dennis and Hisashi,
> 
> I have updated my K3/0 from time to time using the newest firmware for the 
> K3. Just connect the PC directly to the COM port and the K3 Utility will 
> recognize and update it.th  n

Thanks for the clarification on updating the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini firmware by 
using the K3 firmware.  

Question:   Once you updated the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini with new firmware, did you 
notice any changes in capabilities of the “control site” equipment (K3/0) or 
compatibility with the K3/K3S ‘remote site’ equipment (which presumably has 
newer firmware as well)?  

I ask because I’ve been fairly diligent about updating the K3 firmware from 
time-to-time but haven’t updated my K3/0-Mini devices at all (I have a device 
at two different locations).  The oldest K3/0-Mini was purchased in August 
2014.  I’m wondering how critical the updates are to the “K3/0” devices.  From 
what I can tell, the K3/K3S firmware revision documentation doesn’t 
differentiate between features that impact the K3/K3S versus what impacts the 
“K3/0” devices.  

73,

Barry, WD4ASW


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Hisashi:
Dennis:

As far as I can tell, there have been no firmware updates specifically released 
for the K3/0 or the K3/I0-mini on the Elecraft website. 

In the “Firmware and Software” page 
(http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm 
<http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm>), there aren’t 
any firmware packages specifically identified for the K3/0 and K3/0-Mini.

In the Manuals and Downloads page 
(http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm 
<http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm>) there is a “K3-Remote” 
selection:

-The latest K3-Remote Owners Manual (PDF) was released on 3 APR 14 
(http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Remote%20Owner's%20Manual%20%20Rev%20D.pdf 
<http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Remote%20Owner's%20Manual%20%20Rev%20D.pdf>)

-The manual (Page 22) makes clear that the K3 Utility is compatible with the 
K3/0 and K3/0-Mini:

"From time to time, new features may be made available to K3/0, K3/0-Mini and 
K3 owners via firmware upgrades that you can download and install. Please visit 
the Elecraft K3 software page (www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm) to obtain 
our free firmware download application, the K3 Utility. This program runs on 
PCs, Macs, and Linux platforms.”



The document on page 22 also explains how to determine the unit’s firmware and 
serial number:

"Use the K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3 CONFIG menu’s FW REVS menu entry to determine 
your firmware revision. The serial number of your K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3, if 
needed, can be obtained using the SER NUM menu entry. This is the serial number 
of the K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3 at the control site. It is not the serial number 
of the equipment used at the remote site.”

By “remote site” this is defined as the K3 that the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini is 
connected and the “control site” is where the operator is located (K3/0 and 
K3/0-mini). See “List of Terms” on page 4 of the “K3-Remote Owners Manual.”

Since the “K3-Remote Manual” is now over four years old and an updated document 
has not been released, it would also seem that the firmware installed on the 
K3/0-Remote devices hasn't been updated.  

That said, the manual does not clearly state whether a separate firmware 
package is used by the K3/0 and K3/0-Mini versus the K3/K3S.  The wording could 
be interpreted to suggest that the same firmware package is used for both the 
“Remote” and “Control” devices.  Perhaps Wayne, N6KR or Don, W3FPR can clarify 
this for us.


73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW







 





> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka  wrote:
> 
> Did you hear anything? I'm wondering the same thing.
> 
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Dennis Egan wrote:
> 
>> I have had a K3/0 for about 5 years now.  In that time, I don't recall ever
>> doing a Firmware update on it.  Does it require one?
>> 
>> What is the current firmware for the K3/0?
>> 
>> Dennis W1UE
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating KX3/KXPA100 on LiPO3 batteries??

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Clay:

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> Bioenno folks are awesome, too.  Not as cool as Elecraft, but close.
> 
> Unsolicited Suggestion Warning:  Put a switch inline on the AC power cord to 
> the charger  Personally, I am going to replace the cord with a longer 
> cord with an inline toggle switch.
> 
> Or get the West Mountain box designed to power the radio and use Bioenno 
> batteries as backup/alt.

I presume you mean the West Mountain “Epic PWRgate”?

This device is designed to use LiPO4 batteries as a power backup for a fixed 
station operation where 120VAC/power supply (presumably 13.8 VDC) is present to 
recharge the LiPO4 while providing power to the station equipment.  It isn’t 
clear to me whether the prior posts concern a fixed station use of the LiPO4 or 
a mobile or portable operation.  

I’ve suggested to the West Mountain Radio folks (at this year’s  Hamcation and 
Hamvention) that a device that can recharge/manage LiPO4 batteries while mobile 
would that could power equipment when the vehicle’s engine is off and recharge 
the LiPO4 while the engine is running would be very helpful as it would keep 
equipment running during fuel or rest stops, preventing shutdown while also 
protecting the car’s battery from excessive discharge when operating for more 
extensive periods with the engine off.  An alternator doesn’t provide the 
stable power that a 120 VAC power supply does and I was advised not to use the 
Epic PWRgate while mobile.  Whether such a device will eventually be developed 
remains to be seen. Being able to use LiPO4 would significantly extend the 
amount of time that power could be supplied to mobile electronics as well as 
reduce the weight of the battery making it easier to install and secure.  It 
would also be useful for portable operation where the LiPO4 battery could be 
recharged by the car’s alternator while in transit to the next portable 
operating site for use outside the vehicle (such as a KX2 or KX3 portable 
setup) or while parked using installed equipment.  

In the meantime, I’m using a 12VDC 7AH AGM with West Mountain Radio’s “ISOpwr” 
to manage power to my mobile electronics, including USB Hubs to power various 
USB devices as well as mobile rigs.  Keeping the USB devices powered during 
engine shutdowns for refueling is critical as it eliminates the need to reboot 
the laptop mounted in the car that is connected to a GPS receiver, 8 iMICS, and 
several RTS-3 USB-to-Serial adapters. If any of these devices lose power from 
their respective hub due to engine shutdown, it requires a reboot of the laptop 
to re-establish connection and restart of the various applications that utilize 
these devices to get everything going again.  


73,

Barry, WD4ASW

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Re: [Elecraft] Amp comparisons

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Larry:

> On Jul 24, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Larry (K8UT)  wrote:
> 
> The most important difference between the Elecraft KPA1500 and the FlexRadio 
> PowerGenius XL is that you can actually buy one of the KPA1500s.
> 
> According to the FlexRadio website, the PowerGenius - announced over two 
> years ago - is still just taking reservations.

Perhaps it is a question of semantics, but Flex did start shipping the PGXL 
starting in May (the week after Hamvention). I received mine the week after 
Memorial Day.

However, on 5 JUL 18 FlexRadio Systems released an e-mail that states in part,

"Last month, as more users began exercising the 6-meter (6M) band in the 
exciting new FT8 mode, units began showing stress in a way not previously 
experienced. As a result, an issue in the post-amplifier 6M filter was 
identified. Our engineering team has already identified root cause and 
incorporated changes into the design to resolve the stress issues with the amp.

Unfortunately, this has further delayed our delivery plan, and at this time we 
expect to resume shipments in approximately 8 - 10 weeks.”


Arrangements are also being made for PGXL owners to ship their units back for 
repair at Flex’s expense and the two-year warranty will be reset to when the 
unit is returned to the owner following update.In the meantime, FRS 
suggests that owners not run their PGXL above 500 Watts on Six Meters.  I  have 
not yet been contacted by Flex to ship my unit back;  I presume they’re spacing 
returns in order to minimize turn around time.  As I don’t have a six meter 
antenna, this limitation doesn’t impact my current operation.   I also have an 
Elecraft station at the same QTH (K3-P3-KPA500-KAT500, Remote Rig for use with 
the K3/I0 located elsewhere) and obviously don’t operate six meters with it as 
well.   

So yes, a PGXL ordered today will not be immediately delivered and I have no 
idea at this point as to their order backlog, but FRS did initiate deliveries 
in May and from I’ve heard from those that have them are really excited about 
the amp.  What is more concerning to me is that the automatic tuner to 
accompany the PGXL is still under development.   Given the lack of a tuner that 
can handle the PGXL, I’m essentially limited to use of my tri-bander whereas 
the KAT500 allows me to tune up the EFHW I have for whatever band segment I 
want for use with the K3/KPA500.

Bottom line is that for remote operation (my primary means of operating HF), 
there are significant advantages in using the FRS approach to product design, 
but there are other advantages with using the Elecraft product line which is 
why I’m keeping my Elecraft setup. In my mind, the ‘perfect remote setup’ would 
be a blending of the two systems…   ;-)


FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW
Keller, TX
(Currently in Columbia, SC)








> 
> -larry (K8UT)
> 
> -- Original Message --
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> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp comparisons
> 
>> K7ERQ left EHAM reviews on both, it would be nice if he wrote a
>> comparison.  A couple things not mentioned below is that the Flex amp is
>> SO2R capable and has a higher list price.
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> K9MA wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/23/2018 21:37, Gary K9GS wrote:
>>> Any side by side with the KPA1500 and the Flex Power Genius yet?
>>> 
>> I haven't seen any yet. I did have a conversation last year with 4O3A,
>> designer of the Power Genius. From what Ranko said, the Flex amp seemed
>> to have more headroom than the KPA1500, which might result in better
>> linearity at 1.5 kW, albeit at the expense of efficiency. (The specs say
>> "capable of 2 kW.") There is some scheme to dynamically adjust the
>> supply voltage for higher efficiency at lower power, I presume for CW
>> and RTTY, where linearity isn't a big issue. I read somewhere that
>> supply voltage is NOT modulated in SSB mode, which I imagine would cause
>> lots of nonlinearity.  The Flex amp can do predistortion with their
>> radios. However, the KPA1500 also has an output sampling port, which
>> should allow it to do predistortion also with a radio capable of it,
>> probably including the Flex. (I wouldn't be surprised if Elecraft came
>> out with that feature eventually. Could that be the reason it has that
>> sampling port?)
>> 
>> The Flex amp has an external ATU, which 4O3A strongly favors, but I
>> think that's a personal preference. For most stations, with antennas
>> that aren't always below 1.5:1, a solid state amplifier without an ATU
>> is pretty useless, so I think Elecraft's decision to integrate it makes
>> sense.
>> 
>> While the Flex amp can certainly be made to work with Elecraft radios,
>> the seamless integration with the KPA1500 is very attractive. I'm happy
>> with mine so far.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

[Barry Baines]

Mark:

> On May 27, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI 
> connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not 
> appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no 
> joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also.  
> Any suggestions?

The P3 has a 15-pin connector (5-5-5 pins per row) for SVGA which provides an 
analog video output.  It is not a 9-pin serial output as you mentioned above.  
The 9-pin RS-232 serial ports located next to the SVGA port (if installed) the 
P3 are for interconnecting the P3 to the K3 (“XCVR”) and Personal Computer.  So 
the first thing to check is to ensure that the SVGA video port is indeed 
installed.

On-the-surface, it appears you’ll need a SVGA-to-HDMI converter to convert an 
analog signal from the P3 to a digital signal compatible with HDMI.  SVGA was 
initially defined as  1024 x 768 8-bit resolution, but the P3 P3 SVGA adapter 
can handle up to 1920 x 1080 resolution (See: “P3SVGA Option Installation and 
Operating Instructions” p. 3 that is available on the Elecraft website) so make 
certain that whatever device you purchase is compatible with the resolution 
levels of the P3SVGA.  

> 
> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100…


But with what kind of video interface does it have: Is SVGA available or only 
digital (DVI or HDMI)?

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Columbia, SC)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 powers off when after several minutes of 12W carrier

[Barry Baines]

Don:

I have the K3-KPA500-KAT500 purchased in August 2014.  Using the Y-Box offered 
by Bob Wilson, N6TV which he configured me, I have the K3 attached to Antenna 
Genius (AG)  Radio Port A with BCD and it works well.  Similarly, I’m using the 
USB interface on the Flex-6700 to provide BCD to the AG on Radio Port B and it 
works well.  

The key advantage of this approach is that I primarily operate remote.  Using 
BCD for both devices means I don’t have to run the AG app on a PC to match the 
antenna port of either radio upon startup of each radio, ensuring that the 
proper antenna for the desired operating band is selected (Tribander or Offset 
Half-wave wire).  Of course, if I want to select a second antenna port for the 
desired band (such as a dummy load), I can still use the AG app to make the 
change.

One thing to point out is that BCD configuration for 160M is different between 
the K3 and AG, so it isn’t possible to select an antenna defined as 160M.  The 
DB-15 pin assignments of the AG and K3 ACC lines for BCD logic also differs.  
As I recall, there is also a voltage level difference between Elecraft and AG 
when using BCD and Bob had to build a circuit within the Y-Box setup to 
compensate for this.  Bob posted an e-mail to this list on 15 SEP 17 describing 
 how he configured the Y-Box to work with AG and still allow the KPA-500, 
KAT-500 to function as intended.

My recommendation for those with a K3 who want to have a BCD connection to an 
Antenna Genius should consider Bob’s Y-Box configuration for AG as an effective 
interface between the two devices.  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX 

> On Mar 29, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Tony,
> 
> Unless you have a very old K3, the thermal pads should already be in place.  
> Remove the rear bottom panel to see if they are present.
> 
> The thermal conductivity of the pads is the important parameter.  Get the 
> correct thermal pads from Elecraft, they are effective p/n E72 - Adhesive 
> Thermal pads TO220 size.  They are easy to apply.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 3/29/2018 8:20 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
>> Anything special about the thermal pads they recommend or the placement of
>> the pads? Is there anything on the Elecraft site I missed on this?
>> Tnx
>> N2TK, Tony
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Re: [Elecraft] Win4K3 suite

[Barry Baines]

Jim:

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Jim Blanca  wrote:
> 
> I use it extensively for remote operation of my K3.  Almost as good as
> having the rig in front of you!

Would you clarify what you mean by “remote operation of my K3”?  By remote, are 
you utilizing Win4K3 to control your K3  within the 
local network where the K3 resides (such as from a different location in your 
home) or are you accessing your K3 
from outside the home network such as from another home or hot spot?

If you’re using the K3 from outside the home network, how is your setup 
configured to connect to the K3 remotely using Win4K3?

What drives my question is whether PC-based software such as Win4K3 offers 
features or capabilities that may supplement what 
the K3/O-Mini and Remote Rig offers in terms of ‘remote operation’ from a 
location outside the home where the ham station is located.

73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX

> 
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDRPlay as panadapter

[Barry Baines]

Jim:

What size SVGA monitors do you use? I presume there is a tradeoff between real 
estate being used by the monitors versus preferred viewing size for seeing what 
the P3 can provide. 


Thanks,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 9/30/2017 2:11 AM, Ian White wrote:
>> For measurement purposes I love the SDR-IQ and SpectraVue; but operating and 
>> contesting are a different application.
> 
> Excellent analysis, Ian. I agree completely. FWIW, Elecraft is very much in 
> touch with the contesting world -- K6XX works there, and guys like N6TV had 
> great input into the SVGA. Both are world class contesters. As both an 
> engineer and a contester, I use spectrum analysis in exactly the same way 
> that you do, and more than a year ago, acquired three low cost SDRs for use 
> as spectrum analyzers. A pair of P3/SVGAs live at my operating position, with 
> monitors on bracketed arms just above eye level.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing

[Barry Baines]

Dave & Dave:


> On Aug 20, 2017, at 12:08 PM, David Anderson via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> To me it is one of the charms of this list, that we get to read what is 
> happening in the US of A over here. I can skip anything that doesn't interest 
> me, as all my Elecraft stuff is auto filtered into a folder on my phone, 
> tablet, Mac. 
> 
> I for one enjoy reading about things that I know I can never do , travel or 
> hike across wilderness, own a huge RV or truck and kit it out with radio 
> gear. See the total eclipse, tried that once in England,  I can confirm it 
> gets very dark, but that it also gets very very wet.

Part of the challenge of managing a ’service’ such as the Elecraft list is that 
there needs to be a balance between those that signed up because of a specific 
interest (Elecraft) and those that are more accommodating to seeing e-mails 
that may ‘wander’ somewhat from the stated purpose of that list.

We also need to be cognizant that each individual may be dealing with a 
different level in the number of e-mails reaching their inboxes and that may 
drive their response to receiving a large number of e-mails from one list, 
particularly if the e-mails don’t necessarily correlate the the stated purpose 
of the list.  I typically get over 200 e-mails per day because I subscribe to a 
variety of lists as well as receive personal e-mails.  By far, the highest 
number of e-mails I receive daily is from the Elecraft list.  

Lastly, we do need to be mindful that the Elecraft list is indeed an 
international list.  Thus, focusing attention on activities or interests that 
may not be germane to the broader audience receiving these e-mails needs to be 
given consideration.  A list is not a “personal chat.”  We sometimes forget 
that when an e-mail is sent to the list, it is reaching thousands of recipients 
all over the world. We need to ask ourselves, “Is what I’m releasing something 
that would be of interest and/or should be shared with a wide audience?”

With respect to the recent burst in traffic pertaining to the eclipse that’s 
happening tomorrow, I would hope that those sending out e-mails will at least 
tie-in an “Elecraft moment” to their e-mails. Reading e-mails that discuss 
using Elecraft gear as part of their ‘Eclipse Adventure” such as operating 
mobile or setting up a station at their viewing location (“field day”) seems 
more appropriate to me than simply sending out “I’ve arrived at my destination” 
or “I suggest you take this route” or “The traffic isn’t bad” or “I’m not going 
anywhere because of a conflict.”  In my opinion, the focus needs to be sharing 
stories/feedback about how their  Elecraft gear is enhancing their experience 
or technical lessons learned from that experience while having the opportunity 
to note what’s happening around them as that adds context to the experience 
being shared.

As the United States is the only country that will have a ’total eclipse’ 
tomorrow, these eclipse e-mails will naturally focus on what’s happening in the 
US.  My expectation is that those that post will be cognizant of the wider 
audience that reads their e-mails and share their “Elecraft experience” as part 
of the “Eclipse Adventure” that would help to make it more appropriate to post 
on a list that is primarily focused on ‘Everything Elecraft.”

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston, MA where the eclipse is expected to reach 65% of totality)


> 
> 
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2017, at 16:31, David Pratt  wrote:
>> 
>> Regrettably, after 17 years as a member of this group I am now
>> unsubscribing as nowadays there are so few messages of relevance to
>> those of us in the UK and the developed world.
>> 
>> Any queries I have on Elecraft products will be made by direct mail to
>> Eric, Wayne, Don and to Elecraft support.
>> 
>> 73 to all
>> 
>> David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] MAC BOOK KX3 QUESTION

[Barry Baines]

Gerry:

Please see the following link that describes what the 2010 MacBook Pro laptop 
line features:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/macbook-pro-unibody-faq/differences-between-macbook-pro-13-15-17-inch-mid-2010.html
 
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You don’t mention whether your laptop is a 13”, 15” or 17”  MacBook Pro. 

However, depending upon the laptop type you have, the audio input/output 
features vary.  From the link above:  “However, the 15-Inch and 17-Inch models 
have optical digital/analog audio in/out and the 13-Inch does not — it lacks 
optical audio in and instead has the same combined optical digital 
output/headphone out (user-selectable analog audio line in)” port used by the 
iPhone.”

Depending upon the model laptop you have, you can either use the ports that 
Apple provides on your laptop, or you may elect to use a USB plug-in 
audio-to-digital converter.  I highly recommend the Griffin “iMIC” which can 
easily be used by both Mac OS 10.x devices as well as Windows devices under 
WinXP, Vista, Win7, Win8 Win10, etc. They’re highly reliable and the drivers 
for iMIC are integral in both Mac OS 10.x as well as Windows OS.  

Once the system recognizes the iMIC, you can easily configure whatever program 
you’re running to use the iMIC for audio input/output.  The iMIC has the 
ability to handle both ‘level-in’ audio as well as “Mic-In” by means on a slide 
switch.  Audio input is via a 1/8” jack and audio output also has a 1/8” jack.  
 It comes with a Dual female RCA -to- stereo 1/8 plug that is inserted into a 
1/8” jack.  

See:  https://griffintechnology.com/us/products/audio/home-audio/imic 
<https://griffintechnology.com/us/products/audio/home-audio/imic>


I’ve been using these devices for years at remote sites to input audio into a 
variety of computers utilized to provide an audio feed at receive sites that 
are fed to Radio Reference as well as to provide feeds from receive sites for 
railroad signal data (ATCS).  However, my experience with iMIC has been 
primarily with PCs.  I have not tried using an iMIC with Elecraft software nor 
with amateur digital programs such as JT-65 on a Mac.  That said, I don’t know 
any reason why this approach wouldn’t work for you.

Last comment: For some reason you sent your e-mail typed in CAPITAL LETTERS.  
For many e-mail users, typing in capital letters is the equivalent of SHOUTING 
which can be annoying to read. I don’t think that was your intent, but be 
mindful that others may misinterpret your postings if you use capital letters 
all the time.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in N.Myrtle Beach, SC)









> On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Gerry Miller  wrote:
> 
> HI GUYS,  I AM USING A MAC BOOK PRO FROM 2010.  I HAVE THE LATEST SOFTWARE AS 
> OF THIS DATE.  THE QUESTION IS, DOES "BIG E" HAVE A CABLE AVAILABLE THAT 
> WOULD ALLOW WORK WITH MY MAC (USB) TO SEND-RECEIVE DATA SOFTWARE I HAVE ON 
> THE PC?I AM ABLE TO DOWNLOAD KX3 UPDATES, BUT DO NOT KNOW IF I COULD USE 
> THE SAME CABLE FOR  RTTY/PACKET/JT  SOFTWARE THAT I MAY HAVE ON THE MAC.  THE 
> MAC DOES NOT HAVE A CONNECTION FOR A MICROPHONE SUCH AS WOULD BE AVAILABLE ON 
> A WINDOWS MACHINE.  I MUST ADMIT THAT I AM NOT COMPUTER LITERATE.TNX AND 
> 73AA2ZJ 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

[Barry Baines]

Don:

Your points are spot on.  I can recall back in 2014 when I first started to 
think seriously about acquiring a K3, it took a significant amount of time to 
try to figure what options were “important” vs. “desirable” and understanding 
how options interfaced with each other.  It wasn’t until I was at the 
Huntsville Hamfest in August of that year and could ask questions of the 
Elecraft Team that I was able to determine what to order. Eric subsequently 
took my order (K3 w/selected options, KPA500, KAT500 and K3/0-Mini) at the 
hamfest and it wasn’t long after that I had my ‘goodies’ in hand.  I 
subsequently had my remote station in SE Georgia up and running and have been 
happy with the setup ever since.

What’s interesting about Elecraft’s approach is that this isn’t much different 
from ordering other ‘high end’ products from manufacturers that offer 
variations to their product line.  Apple offers their computers with variations 
in CPU, storage capacity, memory capacity, graphics capacity, screen size, etc. 
 based upon ‘common’ consumer interest and price points.  Dell and others do 
the same thing.  Automobile Manufacturers offer vehicles starting a basic 
model, then variations based what ‘packages’ are offered as bundles.  Example:  
Ford offers the base model, then “XLT, then “Limited” then “Sport.”  Of course, 
there are numerous color combinations (exterior and interior) not to mention 
different interior materials (leather, vinyl, etc.).  

My point is as consumers, we’re familiar with the idea of ’tailoring’ products 
based upon common packages that ‘consumers’ (or “amateurs” in this case) would 
typically order.  That doesn’t prevent us from ’special order’  tailored to our 
specific needs when purchasing automobiles, computers, or now Elecraft gear.  
In this case, Elecraft offers both ‘packages’ to provide some insight into what 
’typical’ purchasers based upon areas of interest (contesting, DX, casual 
operating) are typically looking for to give potential purchasers an idea of 
configurations (and price) that meet their preferences while also fulfilling 
special orders as the purchaser wants to see in their equipment. (not to 
mention both factory and kit form).  

Congratulations to Elecraft for providing another product differentiation that 
focuses on the needs of the purchaser.  Along with this approach, I’m also 
impressed by their ‘upgrade’ pathways for K3 owners wishing to incorporate K3s 
features which addresses not only enhancing performance but also simplifies the 
upgrade process while verifying that what leaves the factory is up to spec.  
This flexibility is somewhat unique to Elecraft within the amateur radio 
marketplace and reflects well their focus on meeting the needs of the customer 
which in turn reinforces brand loyalty.  We all appreciate the company that 
stands behind their product.

FWIW,

Barry  Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Columbia, SC)


> On Jul 29, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> On the contrary, I think the decision to offer "standard configuration 
> packages" is a result of customer questions resulting from confusion about 
> "what options do I need" and much time devoted to pre-sale communication with 
> prospective customers.
> 
> Other manufacturers offer an "all or nothing" package that is their current 
> model/configuration.
> 
> I have witnessed the confusion of many prospective buyers at the Elecraft 
> booth at many hamfests - there is a lot of confusion about which options they 
> should include.  We endeavor to provide assistance to customize the option 
> mix to the wants and needs of the customer.
> 
> These "standard" packages is a way to allow customers to purchase a K3S for 
> the type of operating that they will be doing while minimizing that pre-sale 
> activity.
> 
> One can still order additional options even with the pre-defined packages 
> (and I assume also delete some options).  But for the customer who is not 
> familiar with what each Elecraft option will do for their operating 
> experience, I believe it is a step in the right direction.
> 
> If Elecraft were to follow other manufacturer's footsteps, there would be a 
> K3S-I, K3S-II and K3S-III designation for each of those bundles, but note 
> that Elecraft has chosen not to do that.  You do not have to sell your K3S-I 
> to get a K3S-III, just add the options needed to upgrade it.
> 
> That "upgradability" has always been unique at Elecraft.  Any K2 can be 
> upgraded to the electrical equal of a new one, the same goes for the K3 with 
> the addition of the modules included in the K3S (with only a few minor 
> exceptions).
> 
> This is part of the Elecraft customer support philosophy.  Note that the K2 
> is a 1998 design and is still going strong, and still fully supported.
> 
> 73,
&

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Path to Satellite Work.

[Barry Baines]

Jeff:

> On Jul 28, 2017, at 4:04 PM, W7BRS Jeff Wandling  wrote:
> 
> Years ago, I used to own a IC-910h.
> 
> For some stupid reason I sold it when I got distracted by something else
> that was important.  That was about 10 years ago.  Lesson learned.
> 
> I have always kept my K3 though.  I have done a bit of DX'ing with it for a
> long while.
> 
> Now, I want to re-enter the Satellite work again, and I need a full duplex
> Transceiver that can also work 2m/440.
> 
> Is there an upgrade path from a *SN #2100* era K3 to one that can do
> 
> a) Full Duplex (I assume this means getting the K3-SUB) and
> b) Tx on 2m for uplink and Rx 440 on down,  or  Tx 2m on uplink and Rx 10m
> down.
> 
> In other words, as long as I can do all of this:
> 
> 1.  K3SUB can Rx 2m/440 and the main Tx 2m/440
> 2.  K3SUB can Rx HF and main Tx 2m/440
> 
> 
> I don’t expect to need to Tx 2m/440 more than 10W ever.

There is a built-in all mode Two Meter module for the K3 that you could install 
(K144XV).  

For 70CM, the only option for use with a K3 that I’m aware of are transverters. 
 Elecraft offers transverters for various bands (See:  
http://www.elecraft.com/XV/XV.htm <http://www.elecraft.com/XV/XV.htm>) or look 
at product offerings from Down East Microwave.  

See:  http://www.downeastmicrowave.com/category-s/1836.htm 
<http://www.downeastmicrowave.com/category-s/1836.htm>


> 
> Then, we're good.
> 
> I'm lost on the elecraft page of parts/kits.  My how things have changed
> there.
> 
> By the way I didn't see it, but is there a 1.2Ghz  KIT ?  Not required, but
> would be nice.


Elecraft doesn’t offer a 1.2 GHz capability but Down East Microwave does.   
However, until Fox-1C and Fox-1D are launched, there aren’t any L-Band uplink 
capable amateur satellites currently in service.  Fox-1C is manifested to fly 
on a SpaceX Falcon-9 SSO-A launch from Vandenberg AFB in early 2018   Fox-1D is 
currently expected to fly on a PSLV launch from the launch complex at Satish 
Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India in late 2017.  


> 
> Any kind soul, please help me out with an upgrade path of which kits I need
> to get to do the full-duplex Satellite work that I used to enjoy.  (I'm all
> set on the antennas and such, just need the upgrades to the RIG).
> 

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Columbia, SC)


> Thanks so much.
> 73
> W7BRS

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Re: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns

[Barry Baines]

Jack:

The way I manage my KPA500 remotely is via a Remote Rig RC-1216H which provides 
a web-based interface to manage the KPA500.  

See:   http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=636 


Ham Radio Outlet carries this product. See:  
http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-013985 

The price has gone up since I purchased mine (I have two-the other remotely 
interfaces with my Green Heron azimuth controller)

The web page looks like the front panel of the KPA500, allowing you to do 
everything remotely that you can do at the amplifier, including seeing what 
power output and SWR is being measured by the amplifier.  You can turn on/off 
the amp, place in Standby/Operate, set band switches, etc.  I’ve found this 
approach to be very effective and relatively easy to setup.  

The advantage of this approach are several:

1. Manage your amp from your current location with any device that has a web 
browser (iPad, iPhone, Mac, PC, Android device etc.).  No need for a PC in the 
shack itself to manage the amplifier using Elecraft KPA500 software.  My 
preference is to avoid running PCs in the shack when I’m not there because PCs 
do hang up and consume power.  If something goes wrong, it could be months 
before I’m back at the shack.  I’ve been unsuccessful in getting “Wake on LAN” 
to work.  Thus, I manage my station without the necessity of having a PC 
running in the shack.

Using Maestro along with a smartphone/tablet is a nice way to manage 
everything. If you’re using SmartSDR 2.0 for iOS, you can manage both the Flex 
and the KPA500 on the same device.

2. The amp can still be interfaced with the Elecraft K3 (if you have one) for 
auto band switching and communication through the KPA500’s ACC port while using 
the RS232 port for remote access.  

3. Independent verification of KPA500 status.  

You will probably need to setup Port Forwarding for the RC-1216H, manually 
specifying a Local IP address for the RC-1216H on your local network and then 
defining a TCP Port (other than Port 80, the default for web browser 
connections) to make it specific for that device. You’ll then need to setup 
DDNS so that you can access the LAN from the outside network.  Depending upon 
the router you use, you may have that ability built into the router.  Once 
configured, all you need to do is specify on your browser your ham shack WAN 
address (using either the DDNS address or the actual IP assignment for your 
location) followed by a colon and the TCP Port for the RC-1216H (e.g. 
hamshack.dyndns.org:90 )   

Keep in mind that the 1216H interfaces to the KPA500 through the RS-232 port.  
If you intend to connect to the KPA500 through RS-232 to other devices (such as 
a PC), you’ll have to either 1) reconnect manually the RS232 cable to the 
appropriate connection), or provide a means for passing RS232 between the 
KPA500 and more than one device, such as via software on a PC

In my case, I use the KPA500 RS232 port just for RC-1216H.  If I need to access 
a PC for KPA500 firmware upgrades for example, I use a temporary cable 
connection. 

I use the KPA500 with the K3 series so I can’t speak to specific 
setup/operation with the Flex-6xxx series. I have a Flex but since I’m not 
physically at the ham shack, have yet to download/setup SmartLink under v2.0 
and the new firmware.  I hope to do that next weekend when I’m back at the 
shack in SE Georgia.  For the past three years I’ve operated remotely using my 
Elecraft K3/KPA500/KAT500 using the K3/0-Mini, so I’ll be interested to see how 
well the Flex WAN capability functions when the ham shack has relatively slow 
internet (at best 1.2 Mbps upload, 20 Mbps download).


Hope this helps,

Barry, WD4ASW
(Currently in Columbia, SC)

 

> On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:49 PM, k...@gmx.com wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest.
> Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch
> between OPERATE and STANDBY?
> 
> With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex
> radio can be operated over IP.  Ultimately, there
> ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate
> over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software.
> 
> Next question, and this may be too hard to do.  Is there a
> way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr
> remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the
> Elecraft front panel?
> 
> Thanks much,
> Jack
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Re: [Elecraft] Really OT: Inside-the-vehicle HF antennas (possible bonus points)

[Barry Baines]

Wayne:

> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> I’m dealing with one of the last unsolved problems in amateur radio: how to 
> operate HF mobile without an antenna. At least not one that, according to 
> some vehicle co-owners/spouses, would defile your new sedan.
> 
> For 10 bonus points that have only philosophical value, your challenge is to 
> create an invisible mobile antenna and actually make a QSO on it. For 
> practical purposes (i.e., not frying the car or passengers) let’s say the 
> maximum power level is 10 watts. The bands of interest are 40-10 meters.


If the goal is to operate HF while mobile “without an antenna”, why not take an 
entirely different approach using existing Elecraft product offerings that 
entirely avoids the issue of trying to mount antennas on vehicles that are 
becoming less and less “amateur friendly?”

My suggestion is to operate an Elecraft base station remotely while mobile 
using the K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig 1258MKII in the vehicle tethered to an iPhone 
or other Smartphone.  The K3/0-Mini operates superbly with RemoteRig to connect 
to base stations.  The Smartphone acts as a “Wifi hotspot” in the vehicle;  use 
the WiFi option of RemoteRig 1258MKII to connect to the smartphone or use a 
separate “WAP” (Wireless Access Point) such as the TPLink TL-WR802N ($20.00) 
that is tied to the RemoteRig 1258MKII via an ethernet connection between the 
two.

Depending upon the types of interfaces incorporated at the base station, one 
can also control the rotor and KPA500 through the web browser of the smartphone 
if using the RemoteRig RC-1216H to interface to each device at the home station 
(one RC-1216H for each device). 

The ability to operate amateur radio through internet links while mobile has 
been well established.  For example, in the case of DMR (Digital Mobile Radio) 
offered by various VHF and UHF repeater organizations, I’ve had excellent 
performance using the RFShark “openSPOT” tied through a TL-802N WAP and 
connected to the internet via my iPhone 7 “hotspot”.   The openSPOT acts as a 
mini-repeater in the vehicle with RF from a radio (such as a HT)  being sent 
through the internet;  likewise, packets received from the internet are 
broadcast by the openSPOT to the HT in the vehicle. I’ve been able to 
communicate through two different DMR networks (DMR+ and Brandmeister) while 
mobile, allowing me to utilize DMR repeater networks while out-of-range of DMR 
repeaters. This has allowed me to communicate with friends in New England and 
North Florida/South Georgia when I’m not in repeater coverage within those 
areas. 

In essence, the K3/0-Mini coupled to a RemoteRig 1258MKII and linked to a 
smartphone via Wifi is taking a similar approach, but with the interface 
between the K3/0-Mini being hardwired to the RemoteRig 1258MKII.  The RemoteRig 
can be placed under a car seat and the K3/0-Mini can be placed anywhere where 
the operator can access it just as with a mobile rig control head.  If a WAP is 
used, it can also be placed beneath the seat.  

Are there downsides to  operating HF via internet back to the home station (or 
some other locale)?  Providing Grid Squares based upon vehicle location is out 
since the location of the transmitter is what determines which grid square one 
is operating from, and not the location of operator.  Internet quality through 
cellular networks can vary while mobile,  but overall the throughput of the 
K3/0-Mini using audio CODECs offered by the RemoteRig equipment that require 
less bandwidth should still work well.  

Food for thought,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston, MA)











> 
> Here are some ideas I’m considering:
> 
> - mag loop in the rear window
> - thin wire loop on a roof rack 
> - gamma match to the entire roof
> - surface acoustic waves
> - prayer
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
> Yes, I know this violates the laws of physics and bioethics. And I fully 
> expect the car to generate debilitating levels of RFI. But isn’t this the 
> least you’d expect from an unsolved problem? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Can KPA500 Operate Remotely?

[Barry Baines]

Jack:

One potential solution is to use the Remote Rig RC-1216H to control the KPA500 
via a web page.  See:

http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3 
<http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3>


These are available through Ham Radio Outlet in the US. I’m using two of the 
devices to remotely control my KPA-500 as well as my Orion rotor through a 
Green Heron RT-21 controller where the ham shack is in Georgia and I’m in MA or 
TX.

The key advantages are:

-Web-based, so any device (iPhone, iPad, Mac, Windows PC, etc.) can be used to 
control them from wherever I am.
-Display is a rendition of the KPA-500 front panel, providing complete control 
as if you’re sitting in front of the amplifier.
-No need for a PC, Arduino or Raspberry Pi to be running 24/7 at the shack, 
improving remote reliability as these devices may require an occasional reboot
-Easy to configure 
-Can be managed by the router for static addressing and UDP Port for port 
forwarding (essential for remote access)
-Highly reliable— I’ve never lost a connection due to a RC-1216H “hiccup” in 
the past 18 months.  

As these are Ethernet devices, you can run a Ethernet Cat5 connection directly 
to area of the amplifier and plug in the RC-1216H, or put in a Wireless Access 
Point at the amplifier location and plug the RC-1216H to connect to your Local 
Area Network (LAN) through WiFi.  This approach eliminates the need for control 
wiring between your operating position and the amplifier, but it does introduce 
a potential failure point if the WiFi goes down. 

This is not necessarily an inexpensive solution, but I’ve found this this 
approach to be highly reliable and works well with low speed DSL access (e.g.  
768 Kilobaud upload/6 MB download service) from a rural ISP that services my 
ham site.  


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in West Roxbury, MA)




> On Jun 7, 2017, at 10:08 AM, k...@gmx.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,  Can a KPA500 be operated remotely, for example, in a different room from 
> the operator?
> Specifically would such remote operations be possible via USB cable or 
> additional hardware,
> or even via IP using additional hardware on the amplifier side.
> The need is to be able to switch remotely between standby and oper.  
> Ultimately this might
> allow both a flex radio and KPA500 to be separated from the operator.
> Thanks very much,
> Jack
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Re: [Elecraft] REMOTE STATIONS - was Re: iphone remote control for the KPA500

[Barry Baines]

Ian:

> On May 17, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Gian Luca Cazzola  wrote:
> 
> Are we sure that this, remote radio,  is really again ham radio and a radio 
> shack?


Yes.  Due to homeowner association deed restrictions and smaller lots, it isn’t 
always possible to have a ham station at everyone’s home.  The ability to 
remote to my station in Georgia allows me to enjoy HF when I’m not there and 
located where I can’t put up amateur antennas.

For example, I was on the weekly AMSAT 20 meter net this past Sunday afternoon 
(14.282 MHz) at 1900Z remoting into my station in Southeast Georgia from West 
Roxbury, MA.  I had full control of my station and those on the net could hear 
me just as if I was at the operating position in Georgia.  I get to ‘play’ HF 
radio with a fully configured station that I own whenever I feel like it and 
can connect to a net that I enjoy checking in when I’m not in Georgia.  

Other times I simply “listen” using my remote connection while working at my 
desk because I enjoy hearing people talk and getting a sense of what are on the 
minds of amateur radio operators.  The 80 meter band has a plethora of “nets” 
where friends talk to each other every night. Their banter is sometimes a hoot 
to listen to because they’re conveying a human connection through amateur radio.

Each of us may have different priorities and interests when it comes to amateur 
radio;  remote operation allows me to use HF when I’m not sitting at the 
operating position by the transceiver.

> 
> I don’t want be offensive to anybody, but I think that our community, 
> including our associations and the contest committees, should ask ourself 
> this question and take decisions consequently.

They already are. I’m not a contester, but my understanding is that there are 
rules already in effect regarding how a contester using a single remote 
location is supposed be categorized in term of location.  Using multiple remote 
sites in one contest means separate listings based upon actual activity from 
each remote site.

> 
> This kind of operating, as using 5 -10 - 20kw amplifier or ultra automated 
> stations in contests, for contests or dx-ing is like drugs doping … I think.

Amateur rules about what constitutes legal amateur equipment or what are 
appropriate operating practices don’t change with remote operation.  It simply 
provides a different conduit that allows more flexibility in terms of 
communicating through amateur radio.

The same conversation is taking place with VHF/UHF operations utilizing DMR and 
C4FM.  I use an RFShark “OpenSpot” to connect to various DMR repeater networks 
via the internet in order to remain connected with friends when I’m 
out-of-area.  Last night as I was driving across Pennsylvania on I-80, I was on 
the First Coast DMR talk group (Jacksonville, FL and Southeast Georgia) talking 
to friends using a HT in the car connected to an Openspot that was tethered to 
my iPhone.  When I’m in Texas, I can connect to the New England Wide Talkgroup 
through the DRM+ network to get on the Monday night New England Net (NEDECN:  
New England Digital Emergency Communications Network, part of DMR-MARC) to 
learn about what’s happening with DMR in New England when I’m not in Boston.  

The ability to combine ‘connectivity’ provided by the internet with amateur 
radio is a wonderful thing because it allows us to maintain relationships and 
create new ones no matter where we are….


FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW


> 
> It’s only my opinion or other think the same?
> 
> Ian IK4EWX
> 
> 
> 
>> Il giorno 17 mag 2017, alle ore 14:12, Jeff  ha scritto:
>> 
>> I’m not awake yet. After a cup of coffee I read through the Remote Rig 
>> RC-1216H  doc’s and now see that you DO get  some KPA500 monitoring 
>> information with this setup. Can the KPA500 and my SteppIR be monitored with 
>> one 1216H ? If so for $300 it’s starting to look like a good way to go, as I 
>> can’t do any control functions on my BigIR remotely, just control it’s 
>> frequency. I would also like to have a way to retract the antenna fully
>> 
>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>> 
>> From: Barry Baines 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:43 PM
>> To: Jeff 
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500
>> 
>> Jeff: 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Jeff  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500? 
>> 
>> Not a problem today if you use the Remote Rig RC-1216H to control the KPA500 
>> (available through HRO).  It uses a web interface which looks just like the 
>> KPA500 front panel; the amplifier interface utilizes the RS232 serial 
>> connection, so I control my KPA500 with my iPad or MacBook running Safari or 
>> Chrome.  Likewise, I use a second Rem

Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500

[Barry Baines]

Jeff:

> On May 17, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Jeff  wrote:
> 
> I’m not awake yet. After a cup of coffee I read through the Remote Rig 
> RC-1216H  doc’s and now see that you DO get  some KPA500 monitoring 
> information with this setup. Can the KPA500 and my SteppIR be monitored with 
> one 1216H ?

Normally Not.  It can only be used with one device to control at a time because 
within the setup process you inform the device exactly what it is you’re 
matching it to.  That allows the RC-1216H to display the proper web interface 
tailored to that device.  For example, the KPA500 screen of the RC-1216H seen 
on the browser is different than the rotor controller screen  That is why I 
noted that I’m using TWO RC-1216Hs, one for the KPA500 amplifier and one for 
the Green Heron Rotor Controller so that i can monitor and control both devices 
simulatenously.

Now, perhaps some enterprising soul can come up with a way to switch setups 
while having more than one device in line via RS232 connection using a remote 
RS232 switch box.  Select the device you want to control in the RC1216H setup 
process (via the web browser) and then select the device to match a remote 
RS232 switch that is controlled separately. 

I don’t know if it would be possible to have more than one device connected 
through RS232 in parallel because this could perhaps cause issues.  However, 
with only one RC1216H, this would still only provide a sequential 
monitoring/control (one at a time) and not both simultaneously.


73, 

Barry
WD4ASW

> If so for $300 it’s starting to look like a good way to go, as I can’t do any 
> control functions on my BigIR remotely, just control it’s frequency. I would 
> also like to have a way to retract the antenna fully….
>  
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>  
> From: Barry Baines <mailto:bbai...@mac.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:43 PM
> To: Jeff <mailto:k...@arrl.net>
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500
>  
> Jeff:
>  
>> On May 16, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Jeff > <mailto:k...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500?
>  
> Not a problem today if you use the Remote Rig RC-1216H to control the KPA500 
> (available through HRO).  It uses a web interface which looks just like the 
> KPA500 front panel; the amplifier interface utilizes the RS232 serial 
> connection, so I control my KPA500 with my iPad or MacBook running Safari or 
> Chrome.  Likewise, I use a second Remote Rig 1216H to control my Green Heron 
> Rotor Controller (RT-21), so I can manage my antenna pointing with the 
> iPAD/iPhone/MacBook with ease.
>  
> See:  http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3 
> <http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3>
>  
> Note that the RC-1216H can manage various amplifiers and antenna rotators.  
> Unfortunately, the firmware does not support the KAT500 or the Alpha 9500.
>  
> The RC-1216H is an excellent device for managing compatible devices when 
> operating remotely;  e.g. my shack is in SE Georgia and I’m in New England, 
> Texas, etc. 
>  
>  
> At this point the only devices that I must use a Windows OS is with the 
> KAT500 and the Antenna Genius 8x2 antenna switch.  The antenna switch allows 
> me to select which transceiver (K3 or Flex) is  active on a given port.  The 
> Antenna Genius has a LAN connection, so I can access it relatively easily 
> remotely and run the windows software from wherever I am. 
>  
> I use a serial-to-ethernet converter to interface with the KAT500 so that the 
> computer at my location can control the KAT500 at the shack without a PC in 
> the shack.
>  
> Lastly, I use the West Mountain Radio 5-port R4005i to turn on/off devices 
> using a web interface that it has.  The allows me to remotely activate the 
> Flex6700, control preamps and other accessories, etc.    So again, it can all 
> be done with an iPhone/iPad/MacBook or any web-capable device.
>  
> To the extent that I can run a shack without running Windows and a PC, the 
> happier I am. 
>  
> FWIW,
>  
> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
> (Currently in Mercer, PA enroute to Hamvention…)
>  
> 
>> I move my KPA-500 with me when I travel from my winter home to my summer 
>> home. When down south for the winter I use the KPA500 with my FLEX 6500 that 
>> has a wonderful iPhone remote control APP.  It would be nice to be able to 
>> control the KPA500 via iPhone also...
>> 
>> 73 Jeff kb2m 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500

[Barry Baines]

MikeL


> On May 16, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Michael Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry
> 
> I have 2 RemoteRig pairs as I used to use them on my TS480's (I've been 
> running remote for about 11 years now).  I am now running remote with the 
> Flex Maestro and the 6300 and that works wonderfully.I'll likely sell 
> both of them at some point in the future.  They did serve me very well.
> 
> I would also then have to buy the RC-1216 and that turns out to be about $500 
> CDN for just essentially a web server.  That is going to take some thought.

It boils down to cost vs. benefit.  I invested in two RC-1216H units because I 
really wanted to stay away from using a PC in the shack.  Since the station is 
over 1,200 miles from where I would access it, eliminating a shack computer 
really can improve system reliability.  A failure in the shack due to PC 
problems not only raises the question of what the status of the RF equipment 
is, but also means it could be several months before I’m back on the property 
to resolve any issues.  
> 
> Since my internet upload is about 1mb/sec at the remote base, I really limit 
> how much I push up.  I have 1 computer that I RDP into for all my command and 
> control.  I did do serial tunneling one year, but then it locked me into only 
> 1 operating QTH.  

My station in rural SE Georgia currently has 1.2 mb/sec upload/ 20 MB download 
through Windstream.I have no problem running the K3 and K3/IO-mini with 
Remote Rig plus the two RC-1216Hs for the KPA500 and rotor control on such a 
network connection.   

> 
> Now, I can operate my HF station from anywhere with just a laptop or even IOS 
> mobile (yes, that is a stretch, but fun to try).  Having a web interface just 
> makes it very platform agnostic especially if I want one of my buddies to 
> give my station a try.
> 
> Does Elecraft publish the host IP commands on the KPA500 server? 

Don’t know….


> If they do, I was not able to find them.  I have a guy that I might be able 
> to convince to write me an interface.  It will cost me some $$ to make it 
> happen.
> 
> Thanks for the ideas!  Lots of wonderful options.

Enjoy,

Barry
WD4ASW


>  
> 
> Mike va3mw
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500

[Barry Baines]

Jeff:

> On May 16, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Jeff  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500?

Not a problem today if you use the Remote Rig RC-1216H to control the KPA500 
(available through HRO).  It uses a web interface which looks just like the 
KPA500 front panel; the amplifier interface utilizes the RS232 serial 
connection, so I control my KPA500 with my iPad or MacBook running Safari or 
Chrome.  Likewise, I use a second Remote Rig 1216H to control my Green Heron 
Rotor Controller (RT-21), so I can manage my antenna pointing with the 
iPAD/iPhone/MacBook with ease.

See:  http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3 
<http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3>

Note that the RC-1216H can manage various amplifiers and antenna rotators.  
Unfortunately, the firmware does not support the KAT500 or the Alpha 9500.

The RC-1216H is an excellent device for managing compatible devices when 
operating remotely;  e.g. my shack is in SE Georgia and I’m in New England, 
Texas, etc.  


At this point the only devices that I must use a Windows OS is with the KAT500 
and the Antenna Genius 8x2 antenna switch.  The antenna switch allows me to 
select which transceiver (K3 or Flex) is  active on a given port.  The Antenna 
Genius has a LAN connection, so I can access it relatively easily remotely and 
run the windows software from wherever I am.  

I use a serial-to-ethernet converter to interface with the KAT500 so that the 
computer at my location can control the KAT500 at the shack without a PC in the 
shack.

Lastly, I use the West Mountain Radio 5-port R4005i to turn on/off devices 
using a web interface that it has.  The allows me to remotely activate the 
Flex6700, control preamps and other accessories, etc.So again, it can all 
be done with an iPhone/iPad/MacBook or any web-capable device.

To the extent that I can run a shack without running Windows and a PC, the 
happier I am.  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Mercer, PA enroute to Hamvention…)


> I move my KPA-500 with me when I travel from my winter home to my summer 
> home. When down south for the winter I use the KPA500 with my FLEX 6500 that 
> has a wonderful iPhone remote control APP.  It would be nice to be able to 
> control the KPA500 via iPhone also...
> 
> 73 Jeff kb2m 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Dayton Dropoff

[Barry Baines]

Ed:

> On May 15, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Ed Muns  wrote:
> 
> In the past UPS has a spot in the Hamvention exhibits for accepting shipments.


The UPS Store is listed as being in Bulding 6 (6311-6312) at this year’s 
Hamvention.


73,

Barry, WD4ASW
(Departing Boston to drive to  Xenia on Tuesday)


> 
> 73,
> Ed W0YK
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Enhancement

[Barry Baines]

John:

> On Apr 28, 2017, at 1:44 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> With no interest in SO2R, I wonder why you would want a K3 and K3S both
> connected to the same amp.


Having two radio inputs on the KPA1500 or any amplifier, particularly if the RF 
exciter port selection is done either 1) automatically through RF Sensing or 2) 
remote selection would be a very cool feature for stations that are remote 
operated.

I currently use the K3/KPA500/KAT500 remotely for the vast majority of my 
contacts because my primary residence is over 1,800 miles from my HF station.  
I also have a second radio (Flex 6000 series) that I’d love to be able to 
connect to a remotely controlled amplifier and be select as the input once 
SmartSDR v2.0 is released that will provide the ability the utilize the 
transceiver remotely. Currently,  I don’t have an amplifier attached to the 
Flex that can be remoted, so my only option at the moment is to operate that 
transceiver ‘barefoot’.  I manage the K3 through a  K3-Mini/0 with Remote Rig 
1258, the KPA500 through the Remote Rig 1216H, and the rotor (Green Heron 
Controller) through a second Remote Rig 1216H.

I have put down a deposit for the new PowerGenius-XL amplifier offered through 
FlexRadio Systems not because I plan to operate SO2R but because it will accept 
two exciter inputs, will allow remote configuration through LAN, and not cause 
problems for the amplifier.  I currently have the ability to remotely select my 
antennas for the K3 and Flex using 403A’s Antenna Genius 8x2 antenna switch (it 
has a LAN connection) that I can control through my network connection to the 
shack.  The Antenna Genius allows only one active RF input per antenna port, 
which provides some degree of protection to both transceivers.  Thus, I will 
eventually have two radios both connected to the same amplifier operating as 
needed and then use the Antenna Genius to determine which radio is connected to 
which antenna (Dummy load/KT-36/End Fed Half Wave).

Of course, this flexibility comes at a price— The Power Genius is significantly 
more expensive than the KPA1500 and uses a different architecture (e.g. two RF 
source inputs and two outputs to separate antenna ports which allows operation 
on two different bands with rapid band switching).   

Given Wayne’s comments below that there isn’t space to incorporate two RF 
inputs into the KPA1500, someone else may consider offering such a feature that 
could be integrated into the KPA1500 architecture.  However, a 3rd party 
product adds to station complexity and space needed on the operating desk 
versus having it incorporated directly into a RF amplifier.  Where high 
reliability is essential for remote operation where you know “it works” and the 
status of which radio is actually operating through the amplifier is clearly 
delineated, I’d be more reluctant to depend upon a 3rd party “add-on” versus 
having the capability built into the amplifier with the ability to properly 
monitor equipment status.


FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW



> Regardless, keeping the amp physically small
> and lightweight is a great selling point.  External antenna switches are
> readily available. For me, one input and one output is perfectly fine.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> From Wayne n6kr m
> Fri Apr 28 12:35:45 EDT 2017
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> I don’t believe we have enough rear panel or internal space in the KPA1500
> to accommodate a two-rig switch. That said, if you (or anyone else) wants
> to use a home-rolled or commercial rig/antenna switch, or an SO2R box,
> we’ll try to find a way to help with integration.
> 
> For example, the KPA1500’s front-panel “ANTENNA” switch has a tap function
> but not a hold function. We could create a hold function that would select
> between two rigs via an external relay. There are various possibilities
> for control that I’ll be happy to discuss with you if you’re interested.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 6:45 AM, Thomas Donohue  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi to all:
>> 
>> I'm changing the topic back to my original question, which has not been
> answered. Are there plans or thoughts to add a second RF input to the
> amp similar to the two RF inputs on the Yaesu VL1000? I'm not interested
> in SO2R, I am interested in feeding my K3 and K3S into a KPA1500, much
> the same as I'm currently doing with the VL1000.
>> 
>> Best 73,
>> Tom/W1QU
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[Barry Baines]

Paul:

Well said!  Along with the challenges inherent in having to manage two FT-817s 
to manage a satellite contact, there is also the relative degree of difficulty 
in managing the FT-817’s menu settings which can be very confusing to new 
users.  On the other hand, in my opinion Elecraft’s menu management of settings 
is much easier to understand and implement, enhancing the user experience.  In 
addition, the quality of user support provided by this forum is a significant 
service as well, enhancing the Elecraft brand.  

Bottom line is that a KX2 or KX3 style radio capable of 2M/70 cm with full 
duplex would be an awesome product as the number of amateur satellites in orbit 
will continue to increase over the next couple of years…

Barry
WD4ASW


> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Paul Stoetzer  wrote:
> 
> A KX2 or KX3 sized full-duplex 2m/70cm radio would be amazing and fill a
> big hole in current product availability.
> 
> Lots of satellite ops currently use an "FT-1634" or "FT-1674" (2 FT-817s or
> 1 FT-817 & 1 FT-857) for this purpose.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 00:00 Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
>>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future
>> accessories, antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'd like a 2M and 70CM transverter for working the linear satellites.
>> Ideally it would be capable of full-duplex operation with reverse VFO
>> tracking, but I'd settle for being able to use it half-duplex. A lot of
>> folks use one or two FT-817NDs as the foundation for their portable
>> satellite station, and it would be nice to be able to do that with the KX3
>> or KX2. While an internal unit would be more convenient, an external unit
>> would offer the possibility of working with both the KX3 and KX2, and a
>> larger connector (BNC, N, or SO239) for use with typical beam antennas.
>> 
>> I might buy an iambic or single-lever paddle that connects to the KX3 with
>> the paddles pointing to the left. To use the KXPD3 without my wrist
>> cramping up, I'd have to turn the KX3 90 degrees to the left.
>> 
>> More programmable function keys for storing macros or menu items would be
>> useful on the KX3. Maybe hold PF2 then press any other button to access the
>> programmable function stored there. The same approach could be taken with
>> the KX2's single PF button.
>> 
>> More DVR memories would be useful, even if they draw from the same memory
>> storage, e.g., if the total stored time for all messages was limited to 30
>> seconds or less. Even just one more memory would be incredibly helpful for
>> Field Day and other contests:  call, CQ, and exchange.
>> 
>> 73, Ryan AI6DO
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 remote

[Barry Baines]

Noel:

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:16 AM, NOEL POULIN  wrote:
> 
> Anybody in this group using the K3S \REMOTE with the k3/mini control head and 
> remote rig boxes?
> I would like to control my k3s remote with the control head(mini) and control 
> rig boxes...
> I would like to control the k3s from another room…not over  the internet

The Remote Rig interfaces work fine on an internal LAN (Local Area Network).  
Simply configure the RRC-1258MKII device (the one by the K3/0-mini) to connect 
to the Local IP address of the Remote Rig RR-1258 device controlling the K3s.  

> I would have many questions to ask before orderingI am using the 
> P3…and I was told that the P3 must be off when operarting the k3 
> remote???.

Not true; the P3 can remain on (it will turn on if you have the power for the 
P3 supplied by the K3s).   However, you won’t have access to the P3 screen and 
buttons from the K3/O-Mini operating position in the other room.  This means of 
course that there isn’t much point having the P3 on anyway if using the 
K3/0-Mini in the other room.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mini Error question

[Barry Baines]

Jim:

If the K3-Mini is powered up through RRC but the ’target’ K3/K3S is not powered 
up and online, you’ll get a warning signal. This means that the mini is not 
’seeing’ the host transceiver.

Power up the K3/K3S and see if that doesn’t resolve the issue. If you’re still 
having issues, then check your cables for proper connection and that you indeed 
have internet between the K3-Mini site and the K3/K3S.  

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA (residence)
Folkston, GA (ham station)


> On Oct 29, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Jim Cary  wrote:
> 
> I just packed up both my control and remote systems and moved them down to my 
> ZF QTH, where they will be permanent.
> 
> I have the K3 mini hooked up to the control RRC unit, but haven’t hooked up 
> the remote unit yet/
> 
> When I powered up the mini, and turned the volume control I got a three tone 
> warning signal.  The light over the aux/mic cable is flashing yellow, which 
> according to the Remote Rig manual means the SIP connection has failed…. but 
> it isn’t clear what that means or what to do about it.  I’ve checked and 
> doubled checked all the connections and they look good.
> 
> Does anyone not in the CQ contest (!!!) have an idea?
> 
> Jim
> W2SM
> ZF2LC
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote AC power switch?

[Barry Baines]

Jim:

The problem with Teamviewer is that if the PC at the ham station hangs up, 
you’ve lost control.

I suggest taking a look at using the West Mountain Radio R4005i which provides 
five ports for powering equipment (each with its own ’soft fuse’) and is TCP/IP 
accessible through a web browser.  I use three of these at my ham location in 
Georgia to control various devices, including powering on/off Flex Radios. My 
K3 is controlled through Remote Rig and a K3/0-Mini. 

See:  http://www.westmountainradio.com/product_info.php?products_id=rr_4005i 

West Mountain Radio also offers a  ‘PWR AC Controller’ that can power 120VAC 
devices (up to 15A) using the 12 VDC from the 4005i to turn on/off power to the 
AC device.

See: http://www.westmountainradio.com/product_info.php?products_id=pwr_ac

Thus, I can control both DC and AC devices without issues.  The web interface 
can be remotely accessed (through port forwarding);  one can define the HTTP 
port as well as the TCP/IP local address, as well as define a login name and 
password for each R4005i.  Since the 4005i is web-accessible, I can access each 
4005i independently via web browser on a PC/Mac, tablet, or smart phone as well 
as reconfigure the 4005i as necessary.  

Hope this helps,

Barry, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA

> On Sep 13, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> 
> For those of you implementing remote operation: what are you using for an
> IP accessed power switch? I need one port to control station A/C power and
> another to toggle the K3s power control line on the ACC connector.
> 
> Since I plan on using Teamviewer to control this I could also use a USB
> controlled switch instead.
> 
> Suggestions welcome.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Heathkit clocks are back!

[Barry Baines]

Ken:

My GC-1005 that I built as a teenager in 1973 as my first Heathkit experience 
is still serving as my bedside clock having served continuously for over 43 
years. That said, I could use another clock or two for other applications.  
Looks like a fun kit to build!

While the pricing as a ‘clock’ maybe high, the “intrinsic value” (nostalgia and 
fun of building) probably makes it worthwhile to me.

Thanks for the heads up.

73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA


> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> 
> Likely of interest to many of us.
> 
> www.heathkit.com
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 question

[Barry Baines]

Jerry:

Here’s an approach that I use for K3 remote operation (including control of the 
KAT500) that you may find appropriate for your needs as well.  

I use my K3 almost exclusively through the K3/0-Mini.  The radio site is in 
Southeast Georgia and my primary residence is in Massachusetts.  I’ve 
configured my HF station with the following:

1.  K3/0-Mini controls the K3 through Remote Rig’s RRC-1258Mkii devices.

2.  The Remote Rig RC-1216H provides a web-based control of the KPA500, 
providing a web screen that looks like the front panel of the KPA500, allowing 
me to control the amplifier as if I were in front of it without using a PC in 
the shack.  

3.  For the KAT500, I’m using a Lantronics Serial-to-Ethernet converter that 
allows me to run Elecraft’s KAT500 Utility software on a computer in 
Massachusetts controlling the KAT-500 directly in Georgia through the KAT500’s 
serial port.  The Elecraft software provides all of the status information of 
the KAT500 plus control of all functions, such as turning the unit on/off, 
setting which of the three antenna port to use (e.g. dummy load, yagi, etc.), 
bypassing the tuner, noting the SWR of the antenna/band I’m on when 
transmitting, etc.   

A prime reason for taking this approach is so I can ensure that the KAT500 
antenna port selected when shutting down the tuner is port 1 which has a dummy 
load attached.  Since I’m not at the radio site, selecting the dummy load 
provides at least some additional isolation for the KPA500 and K3 between the 
Polyphaser attached to the grounding system at the ground plate entrance where 
all coax cables and DC lines (rotor control, Preamp on/off, etc.) enter the 
shack through various Polyphaser devices.  A dummy load also provides an 
appropriate load for testing power output before going ‘live’ with the Elecraft 
software providing real time measurement of performance. 

4.  The Orion rotor’s serial port is also fed through the Lantronics 
Serial-to-Ethernet converter (it is a five port device; I’m using two), 
allowing me to run PstRotatorAz.exe to control the rotor directly from 
Massachusetts.  

5.  I can turn on/off devices in the shack using the West Mountain Radio R4005i 
which allows web-based control of up to five separate devices by providing a 12 
VDC output to on any of the five available ports.  The Orion is turned on/off 
through this device using West Mountain Radio’s PWR AC Controller attached to 
Port 1, which is a device using 12VDC to switch 120VAC. Anderson Power Poles 
provide connections to the R4004i’s five ports and the PWR AC, and each of the 
five ports of the R4005ican be individually configured for when the ’soft’ fuse 
on each port is opened.  

There are some network configuration setups required at the radio site’s 
router, such as configuring port forwarding appropriate ports to various 
devices to make this work, plus DDNS to allow for connection from the outside 
world (WAN) without having to know the external IP address at the radio site.  

An alternative would be to run the KAT500 software on a computer in the shack 
and then connect to that PC through remote access software such as Team Viewer 
or LogMeIn.  This approach would probably be simpler to set up than what I’ve 
done (no setup of port forwarding within the router), but  prefer my approach 
because PCs can fail and require reboot which can be problematic if you’re not 
at the site and won’t be there for some time.  Note that I don’t need any PC to 
be on in the shack to have total control of my HF Station.  

Overall, I’m very satisfied with this approach. I hope in the future that 
Remote Rig will provide a firmware update to the RC-1216H to add the ability to 
control the KAT500 through a web interface just as is done for the KPA500.  
Such an approach would eliminate the need for a Serial-to-Ethernet converter as 
well as allows control of the KAT500 with a iPhone or iPad.  

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA




> On Jul 13, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick and John,
> 
> I asked the question because I have just bought the K3/0 Mini remote and I 
> would like to be able to turn ON and OFF the KAT500 when I am about 1 
> thousand miles away. I know that I can do control the on.off on the  KPA500 
> by connecting the  8 pin line on the 15 pin ACC connector on the KPA500 to 
> pin 11, I was hoping that there would be an undocumented way for the KAT500.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick 
> WA6NHC
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 question
> 
> But you can via the utility, if that can apply to your needs.
> 
> 
> Rick nhc
> 
> 
> On 7/13/2016 2:28 PM, John E Bastin wrote:
>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 17:10, Jerry  wrote:
>>> Greetings all,
&

[Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2)

[Barry Baines]

Ed:

Please allow me to second your suggestion for a “KXV3Sat”, though a KX2 
derivative with FM + VHF + UHF and full duplex would certainly be another 
option that would be very intriguing. Whether such a design built into a K2/K3 
footprint (with or without HF) is feasible from an engineering/cost of 
production perspective is something else… 

Given the rapid growth of the amateur satellite ’fleet,’ there are plenty of 
opportunities to take advantage of such a product for satellite operations.  
AMSAT-NA’s AO-85 (FM) was placed in service in October, 2015.  Between now and 
January there will be three more FM Cubesats built by AMSAT-NA that will be 
launched.  In addition, AMSAT-NA is building a 30 KHz wide linear transponder 
satellite (Fox-1E).  AMSAT-UK launched FunCube-1 (AO-73) which is also a linear 
transponder satellite.  The Chinese placed a number of sats last fall in orbit 
on one launcher  with a variety of capabilities, including liner transponder.  
These satellites, coupled with FO-29 and AO-7 are certainly candidates for 
operating with a low power, SSB/CW capable transceiver operating duplex.

As you know, a number of satellite operators are working these satellites in 
the field using an Arrow or Elk Antenna with the FT-817x class transceivers 
which to my knowledge is the only backpack size QRP-capable HF-VHF-UHF 
multimode radio with built-in battery for portable operation in the field 
currently on the market.  The FT-817x is not full duplex, so satellite 
operators use two of these radios to be able to hear their downlink when 
working the linear transponder satellites.  While the FT-817x does work well 
for this type of operation, it does have a confusing set of options in the menu 
and in my opinion is  more difficult to learn to operate than what Elecraft 
offers in their firmware architecture;  having to use for FT-817s for full 
duplex adds to the complexity and cost of such operations. Interest in 
satellite operations is increasing and such a product would spur further 
growth.  It seems to me that an Elecraft-designed radio capable of FM + UHF + 
VHF + full duplex in an integrated package with the footprint of a KX2 or the 
KX3 would be a winner; a HT-size transceiver (KX2) capable of working the 
linear satellites plus the FM sates would be a game changer for satellite 
operators.
  
FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
(Currently in Deshler, OH after ’surviving’ Hamvention)




> On May 24, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> One type of radio that Elecraft has avoided making to date:
> multi-band, multi-mode VHF/UHF, cross-band duplex radio.
> 
> I recently bought a (not new) radio that, at its time, was considered one of 
> the finest radios for this:
> Yaesu FT-736R.  It is still held in considerable respect.
> 
> I wanted a VHF/UHF multi-mode radio capable of satellite operation and had 
> considered a cross-band duplex-capable FM mobile radio, but it would have 
> limited me to FM.  For approximately $200 more I obtained a "cherry" FT-736R 
> with basic 2m/70cm capability.
> 
> The radio is capable of expansion to two more bands via installation of 
> internal modules for 6m, 220, and 1.2 GHz.  Quite a remarkable model of 
> adaptability for its time.
> 
> I previously owned its successor, the  FT-847, which was HF, 6m, 2m, 70cm.  
> But on used market cost double what I spent on the FT-736R.
> 
> Had Elecraft offered a VHF/UHF cross-band duplex multi-mode radio I would 
> have considered it.  Nothing on the current market equals the Elecraft radio 
> quality (my opinion).  I chose the K3/10 plus transverters for eme, but the 
> K3 is not capable of duplex operation.
> 
> If a KVX3sat were produced - I think the market is there.  Current 
> competitors: IC-9100 and TS2000X;Yaesu is out of the satellite radio market.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 and Apple Display monitor

[Barry Baines]

Phil:
 
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 6:15 PM, PHILIP GRAITCER  wrote:
> 
> I've just installed an svga card in my P3 and I'm trying to get it to work 
> with a 7 or 8 year old apple display monitor. It has a DVI male connector so 
> I purchased a DVI to VGA adapter. But the setup doesn't seem to work. Any 
> idea why? Any experience with this monitor and the P3 or is there a 
> comparability problem?

One potential problem is that a DVI monitor is not necessarily designed to work 
with a SVGA video source.  DVI uses digital signals whereas SVGA uses analog 
signals. In some cases, a DVI source in fact produces both analog and digital 
(on different pins) which is why a DVI-to-VGA adapter may work with a DVI 
source connecting to an analog display.

BTW, which Apple Monitor are you attempting to connect?

In your case, you have an analog source attempting to provide video to a 
digital monitor.  I’m not aware any pure SVGA source being compatible with an 
Apple DVI monitor.  The P3 SVGA card expects to be connected to a VGA display, 
not a DVI.

On a different note:  I trust you’re having fun with your setup in SE Georgia. 
My Elecraft setup is working well in Folkston and I access it remotely to check 
into the Sunday AMSAT Net from Massachusetts plus listen around the bands.

73,

Barry, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA 


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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

[Barry Baines]

Eric:

I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando 
Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?  

Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…

73,

Barry
WD4ASW



> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
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> 
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
> 
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned 
> late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large 
> holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always 
> generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
> 
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices 
> to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep 
> costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been 
> absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we  
> must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
> 
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order forms 
> will update with the new pricing at that time.
> 
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about 
> which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as 
> they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting 
> everything entered.)
> 
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be 
> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
> 
> 73,
> Eric
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[Elecraft] Lightning Protection (was-Re: suggested PC???)

[Barry Baines]

-Ethernet device for my Wavenode WN-2.  
 


73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA


> 
> Neil Zampella
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> 
> On 1/5/2016 8:14 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
>> Hi Jerry,
>> 
>> Don't use a wired network.  I had my shack computer on a wired network when 
>> I took a lightning hit a couple of years ago.
>> 
>> Everything connected on the wired network was zapped (2 PCs, router, modem, 
>> K3 RS-232 port, WinKey (connected to one of the PCs), and the Cable TV 
>> amplifier located over 150 ft away out by the road.  When I rebuilt 
>> everything i went wireless with all of my PCs and have never regretted it.

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Re: [Elecraft] remoting a kpa/kat500 without a PC

[Barry Baines]

o the radio site’s 
LAN and be able to “see” the IP devices (Serial-to-ethernet, USB-to-Ethernet 
and Remote Rig).  This can done a variety of ways including VPN or via DDNS and 
Port Forwarding.  In my case, I had a commercial firm configure two Sonic Wall 
routers for me (one for each location) where essentially one LAN can interact 
with the other well enough where the web-based devices (RC-1216H and 
RigRunner), Serial-based devices (Lantronics), and AnywhereUSB in Georgia are 
recognized by the computer in Massachusetts without having to resort to VPN.  
It essentially provides a seamless process for controlling my amateur radio HF 
station without having to resort to a PC at the radio site. It also removes to 
some degree a ’single point failure’.  For example,  if the RC-1215H were to 
fail, I could still turn on and operate my rotor along with the K3 and KAT500 
sans amplifier.  

I suspect that over time there will be more web-based interfaces developed for 
a variety of amateur radio applications, thus avoiding the need for PC at the 
shack to allow remote connection.  In the meantime, I’m pleased with how my 
shack has evolved to allow improved remote operation.


73 & Happy New Year,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA











> 
> 73 and a HNY Jeff kb2m

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Lulu sale on KE7X books

[Barry Baines]

Be advised that the 25% discount applies to printed books only and is not 
applicable to the PDF downloadable versions.

FWIW,


Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA


> On Dec 1, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
> 
> And, make sure to use the code exactly as shown: upper case letters.  Fred is 
> a very good “explainer” and his books are worthwhile additions to the shack 
> for any of the Elecraft gear.  He deserves earning a few bucks from us all.
> 
> Of course, it’s nice to get a discount.  My order is in.  :)
> 
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Cady, Fred  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> www.lulu.com has a 25% discount until 12/7.  Code is HOLIDAYS25.
>> 73,
>> Fred KE7X
>> See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
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Re: [Elecraft] Which of these would make the best power supply for the K3(S)?

[Barry Baines]

Jim:

Is there a particular Artesyn power supply model that you’d recommend?

In taking a quick review of their website, they offer a 12 VDC and 15 VDC 
output in the LCM300 series which provides 300 watts (20 amps at 15 VDC) and a 
LCM600 series offering 600 watts (40 amps at 15 VDC).  I presume the 15 VDC 
output would more closely meet the needs of a 100W transceiver, but given that 
most people think that going above 14.5 VDC is not recommended, are these power 
supply user adjustable to reduce voltage output to 14.5 VDC?  

What do you advise?

Thanks,

Barry, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA




> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:22 PM, jim  wrote:
> 
> I worked as an engineer and in marketing for a major power supply company.
> 
> I did many design reviews and cost analysis on various MW power supplies.
> 
> The designs are straight forward and their derating guidelines were not as
> robust as the ones I used.
> 
> One area that they "just met spec" was for conducted EMI.  You need a unit
> that meets level B, with VDE level B most stringent.  The products I
> designed had a minimum of 6 dB margin on conducted EMI.  Robust EMI
> filtering costs money.
> 
> Ripple current in the electrolytic caps of MW is also pushed hard.  In some
> cases, they use 85 versus 105 degree Centigrade capacitors, again for lower
> cost.
> 
> In your application, I suspect you will not be running at 50 deg C ambient,
> so that in itself will provide derating to the power supply.  
> 
> Artesyn makes a standard product line of power supplies sold through their
> distribution channel.  They are good, very good, and easily meet all their
> published specs with margin to spare (especially EMI).  If you used one in
> your shack, it will outlive you.
> 
> I am surprised that people that own one of the best amateur radio
> transceivers in the world, would put a weak link in the chain of the overall
> system.  But then again, I am out at 4 sigma on the curve and companies
> typically do not design for my "needs"  ;>)
> 
> Jim
> W6AIM
> 
> 
> 
> .
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter
> Pauly
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:52 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Which of these would make the best power supply for the
> K3(S)?
> 
> I'm looking at the Meanwell power supplies because they are cheap and seem
> to be well regarded. I've come up with these two choices, feel free to give
> more suggestions of other models. I've seen talk on this reflector of
> supplying more than 13.8V to the K3S so that's why I'm looking at the 15V
> model.
> 
> 12V Model:   Meanwell NES-350-12
> Voltage range 10-13.5V
> 29A
> 
> 
> 15V Model:   Meanwell NES-350-15
> Voltage range 13.5-18V
> 23.2A
> 
> 
> The 15 volt model would seem to be the obvious choice, except that it
> doesn't supply the recommended 25 amps. The K3S manual says 22 amps typical
> though.
> 
> Is there another model Meanwell I should be looking at that has better
> protection or filtering?
> 
> I've already got an Astron switching power supply, the Meanwell would be a
> second alternative.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Barry Baines]

Ed:

Part of the “confusion” may be due to how different organizations/groups 
utilize the remote capabilities of Elecraft products.  Which areas should be 
the responsibility for documenting which aspect of remote operations?  For 
example, do you expect Elecraft or Remote Hams to provide appropriate 
documentation for using the K3/O with a Remote Hams connection?

Second, the K3/O can be ‘connected’ to a K3 through various means.  I would 
suggest since Elecraft offers the Remote Rig hardware as part of their product 
line offerings, their focus should be on getting the Remote Rig hardware 
properly interconnected with the K3 at the radio site as well as the K3/0 at 
the remote site.  This includes proper remote rig configuration, which can at 
times be confusing due in part to network issues. 

In my opinion, Elecraft does a reasonably good job in their brief documentation 
in connecting via Remote Rig. I was able to get it done once I dealt with with 
some network issues.

There is also the question of connecting the K3/0 to a local PC which in turn 
connects to a PC where the K3 itself is located to provide the connection.  I 
don’t know how many people use this approach, but the documentation may indeed 
be in need of improvement.  

What is particularly lacking is understanding more complex setups beyond SSB 
where documentation is needed to explain how to setup digital modes and how to 
use computers at the remote site to do digital modes.  There is also the 
question logging using a computer next to the K3/0 which gets into the question 
of proper com port configuration.  The question of feeding audio and control 
lines to a PC at the remote using the available connection ports off the K3/O 
or the Remote Rig “box” is not intuitive, nor is how best to use the two 
available com ports that can be managed between the remote site and the radio 
site (ham shack where the K3 is located) to feed data.  

Third, we need to remember that the K3/O’s front panel and menus control the K3 
that is connected to the antenna.  When you setup filters, set frequencies, set 
audio levels, etc. on the K3/0, you are directly interacting with the K3 at the 
ham shack.  Even changing the volume level on the K3/0 to make for a more 
pleasant listening experience with the K3/0 internal speaker is in fact also 
changing the audio level of the speaker out of the K3 itself.  That is why I 
always turn off the powered speakers at the K3 so that varying audio levels 
don’t result in loud speaker output at the ham shack where the radio is located.

Fourth, for those of us that use the Remote Rig Hardware, there is a Remote Rig 
forum available through Remote Rig.  There are some issues that more properly 
handled by the Remote Rig support process, such as how to finagle a connection 
through hotel WiFi services where a login is required. In my opinion, Remote 
Rig needs to come up with solutions to these issues, not Elecraft.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA (ham shack site)

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Ed Gray W0SD  wrote:
> 
> The lack of a good manual and no diagram for the K3/0 is way..below the 
> normal Elecraft standards.  It is especially bad if in addition to remote rig 
> you sometimes want to use the USB cable and remote hams.  There just is no 
> documentation as to what is going on!
> 
> Ed W0SD
> 
> On 10/11/2015 3:30 PM, David Christ wrote:
>> I don’t know about a separate forum, but I am going to start looking at a 
>> remote installation for when we move into a retirement community and will 
>> want to know where the information is to be found.
>> 
>> David K0LUM
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:16 PM, jlbates4  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was wondering why the K3/0 or K3/Remote Ops doesn't have a dedicated 
>>> forum.
>>> Just a thought...
>>> 
>>> The reason I ask is that I would really like a better manual for the K3/0.
>>> I have a lot of questions - simple things, like how do I control the LCD
>>> display or adjust the LED brightness?  Is there a "local" menu system that
>>> allows for K3/0 configuration?
>>> 
>>> 73 de K8OI
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Barry Baines]

George:

Other than the specific instructions needed to connect the K3/IO-Mini to a K3 
trough a Remote Rig device, there is nothing different about setting up and 
operating the K3/IO-Mini than there is in operating the target K3 itself.  Keep 
in mind that the front panel of the K3/IO-mini (including all knobs, menus, 
etc.) directly controls the corresponding settings of the “remote” (or 
“target”) K3 that it is connected to.  When you change a setting on the 
K3/IO-Mini, it is actually changing the settings on the target K3.  If you go 
into the configuration menus, you’re changing the configuration of the target 
K3.

The only exception off hand that I can think of to this general statement is 
that K3 must be set for “rear panel” microphone so that the mic feed that is 
coming from the “remote” K3/IO-Mini to the target K3 which in fact is fed to 
the rear panel connection of the target K3, is utilized.  Otherwise, if a front 
panel mic source is selected, the audio will not be fed into the target K3 from 
the K3/IO-Mini.

The real question is whether the operator is familiar with using a K3 and knows 
how to configure settings to meet their needs.  Thus, reviewing the K3 
operating manual makes much sense since that is what is being controlled by the 
K3/IO-Mini.

My comments are based upon using the K3/IO-Mini via remote rig directly to my 
remote rig controller at the target K3 (e.g. the 1258MK II system) and NOT 
using remotehams.com service. I am not familiar with remotehams.com setup, but 
presume that the same concepts apply.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA
(Currently in Shelby, NC)


On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:10 PM, George via Elecraft  
wrote:
> 
> 
> I am setting up a K3/0-Mini for a friend who will use it to operate  remote 
> stations accessible via remotehams.com service.
> 
> The K3/0-Mini was delivered with an Owner's Manual.  The  manual is limited 
> to describing how  to set up the Mini to  work with a PC, how to operate 
> with the RemoteRig 1258 MKII System (which  we are not using), and how to 
> update the Mini's firmware.  The Owner's  Manual does not contain any 
> information about how to use all of the controls on  the Mini, or any 
> information 
> about its Menu and Config selections.  
> 
> Since the person who will be using the Mini is not familiar with at  all 
> with the Mini, or its big brother, a K3, we will need a user-oriented manual  
> that provides the all the information that an operator will need to  know. I 
> can download copy of a K3 manual, however, I don't know if the  
> explanations described for a K3 also pertain to the functions of the  
> K3/0_Mini.
> 
> Please let me know if there is a more complete user-oriented Operator's  
> Manual for the MIni, or will the K3 manual correctly explain all the  
> functions of the Mini?
> 
> Thanks, George.
> 
> George  Wagner, K5KG
> Sarasota, FL  34242
> 941-400-1960
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[Barry Baines]

Wes:

After re-reading your post, I now realize that you had purchased the K3S, not 
the K3.  My apologies for not reading your note more carefully.

That said, much of what I posted originally still stands.  We make purchase 
decisions based upon what we know at the time and deciding whether to defer 
decisions.  Along with product features and capabilities, ’time’ is also a 
consideration:  how long does one wait for the ’next great thing’ or do you 
take the plunge “now”, recognizing that as time passes, there are also 
“opportunity costs” in deciding to make the purchase later rather than sooner? 

73,

Barry
WD4ASW


> On Aug 4, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Barry Baines  wrote:
> 
> Wes:
> 
> You made the decision to get the K3 at the time of purchase because you 
> wanted the radio as it apparently met your needs at a price you were willing 
> to pay.  Manufacturers don’t normally advertise when new products are being 
> released in advance;  they do so when they are ready for sale.  Yes, the 
> various boards were announced before the K3S, and the “K3” has been in 
> production for a number of years (2008?), suggesting that at some point in 
> time there would be a ‘refresh.’
> 
> The option available to us when making a purchase decision is either to 
> purchase what is available at the time or defer for an unknown period of time 
> for a “new product.”  The problem with waiting is that none of us are getting 
> younger, and who knows how long that wait might be.  The moment something is 
> purchased, one might argue it is becoming ‘obsolete’; at least most of the 
> enhancements of the K3S can potentially be retrofitted to existing the K3 at 
> some point. 
> 
> I have a slightly different situation than you where “time” certainly drove 
> my purchase decision.  I purchased a K3 “system” in August 2014 because my 
> Flex-6700 didn’t meet the promises made by the manufacturer when it was first 
> announced in May 2012 and I made that purchase decision based upon those 
> promises. The radio was delivered in November 2013. It isn’t the hardware, 
> but the software and firmware that determines the radio’s capabilities. In 
> fact, it won’t be until sometime in 2016 before a software/firmware upgrade 
> is made available that will fulfill the original promise that drove my 
> decision based upon the manufacturer’s claim of performance that the radio 
> will have (Remote access via WAN).  
> 
> By mid-2014 I decided that time was a wasting since I wanted a reliable 
> method for operating remotely; otherwise no HF.  I decided to get the K3 and 
> K3/O-Mini combination and the Remote Rig (plus KPA500 and KAT500) and ordered 
> them at the 2014 Huntsville Hamfest.  I received my gear and had it up and 
> running right after the Labor Day holiday at the remote site in Southeast 
> Georgia.  I’ve been pleased with the results because I could now operate from 
> my primary residence in Massachusetts.  I can now log into the Sunday 
> afternoon AMSAT net, rag chew, and listen to the ‘banter’ on the HF bands 
> from 1,250 miles away from the transmitter site.  Pretty nice even if one 
> can’t do everything remotely that one can do at the transmitter site. 
> 
> Meanwhile, the Flex-6700 is in the shack and I’ll focus on it when the 
> firmware upgrades are made available in the future (the upgrades will require 
> paying for renewal to the software subscription) so that I can operate it 
> remotely through a PC or their new 
> “Maestro” display that will be available late this year (assuming it will 
> have WAN capability as well at some point).  I have confidence in the overall 
> quality of Flex Radio products and their desire to provide competitive 
> equipment. The issue is that the timeline has been so long in providing the 
> expected capability that I decided that if I wanted to operate “Now”, I had 
> to get a K3.  Even if I knew in advance that a year later a “new” K3 would be 
> released, I still would have ordered at Huntsville because “time is 
> a-wasting.”  
> 
> Bottom line is that we make decisions based upon what we know at the time 
> those decisions are made.  
> 
> Enjoy what you have and avoid the regrets. You have a fine piece of equipment 
> that you can enjoy for a number of years and if you wish to upgrade your 
> existing setup at a later date, you certainly have that option.
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Barry
> WD4ASW
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Wes (N7WS)  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay then, back to buyer's remorse.  I have some.
>> 
>> Hindsight is 20-20 it's said.  Knowing what I know now (and I really knew 
>> better at the time, but fools rush in) I should have waited awhile before 
>> ordering a K3S.
>> 
>> This is supposed to be fun.  

Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[Barry Baines]

Wes:

You made the decision to get the K3 at the time of purchase because you wanted 
the radio as it apparently met your needs at a price you were willing to pay.  
Manufacturers don’t normally advertise when new products are being released in 
advance;  they do so when they are ready for sale.  Yes, the various boards 
were announced before the K3S, and the “K3” has been in production for a number 
of years (2008?), suggesting that at some point in time there would be a 
‘refresh.’

The option available to us when making a purchase decision is either to 
purchase what is available at the time or defer for an unknown period of time 
for a “new product.”  The problem with waiting is that none of us are getting 
younger, and who knows how long that wait might be.  The moment something is 
purchased, one might argue it is becoming ‘obsolete’; at least most of the 
enhancements of the K3S can potentially be retrofitted to existing the K3 at 
some point. 

I have a slightly different situation than you where “time” certainly drove my 
purchase decision.  I purchased a K3 “system” in August 2014 because my 
Flex-6700 didn’t meet the promises made by the manufacturer when it was first 
announced in May 2012 and I made that purchase decision based upon those 
promises. The radio was delivered in November 2013. It isn’t the hardware, but 
the software and firmware that determines the radio’s capabilities. In fact, it 
won’t be until sometime in 2016 before a software/firmware upgrade is made 
available that will fulfill the original promise that drove my decision based 
upon the manufacturer’s claim of performance that the radio will have (Remote 
access via WAN).  

By mid-2014 I decided that time was a wasting since I wanted a reliable method 
for operating remotely; otherwise no HF.  I decided to get the K3 and K3/O-Mini 
combination and the Remote Rig (plus KPA500 and KAT500) and ordered them at the 
2014 Huntsville Hamfest.  I received my gear and had it up and running right 
after the Labor Day holiday at the remote site in Southeast Georgia.  I’ve been 
pleased with the results because I could now operate from my primary residence 
in Massachusetts.  I can now log into the Sunday afternoon AMSAT net, rag chew, 
and listen to the ‘banter’ on the HF bands from 1,250 miles away from the 
transmitter site.  Pretty nice even if one can’t do everything remotely that 
one can do at the transmitter site. 

Meanwhile, the Flex-6700 is in the shack and I’ll focus on it when the firmware 
upgrades are made available in the future (the upgrades will require paying for 
renewal to the software subscription) so that I can operate it remotely through 
a PC or their new 
“Maestro” display that will be available late this year (assuming it will have 
WAN capability as well at some point).  I have confidence in the overall 
quality of Flex Radio products and their desire to provide competitive 
equipment. The issue is that the timeline has been so long in providing the 
expected capability that I decided that if I wanted to operate “Now”, I had to 
get a K3.  Even if I knew in advance that a year later a “new” K3 would be 
released, I still would have ordered at Huntsville because “time is a-wasting.” 
 

Bottom line is that we make decisions based upon what we know at the time those 
decisions are made.  

Enjoy what you have and avoid the regrets. You have a fine piece of equipment 
that you can enjoy for a number of years and if you wish to upgrade your 
existing setup at a later date, you certainly have that option.


73,

Barry
WD4ASW
 
> On Aug 4, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Wes (N7WS)  wrote:
> 
> Okay then, back to buyer's remorse.  I have some.
> 
> Hindsight is 20-20 it's said.  Knowing what I know now (and I really knew 
> better at the time, but fools rush in) I should have waited awhile before 
> ordering a K3S.
> 
> This is supposed to be fun.  So far, it's been aggravation and disappointment.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> On 8/4/2015 12:10 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> A little too OT - Let's close the RPN and H/P calc thread for now.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[Barry Baines]

Fred:

I’m still using a HP-41 and I still have a functional HP-45 (works off the 
power supply).  RPN works for me…

FWIW, if you have an Apple iPhone, you can also get an app that provides a full 
emulation of the HP-41.  It works very well with the look and feel of the HP-41 
and it allows me to have a “HP-41" with me all the time.  The app is named 
“i41CX-RPN Calculator” from AL Software.  There is also a version that has a 
printer function as well.  Check the Apple Store or the developer’s website 
(http://alsoftiphone.com) for more information if interested…


73,

Barry Baines
WD4ASW


> On Aug 3, 2015, at 10:48 PM, k6dgw  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> While nowhere near the saddest day in my life, when I realized the keypad on 
> my HP41X was terminal, and there was no way to replace it,I sprang for an HP 
> 48GX,. While it's RPN, only Calc I can use anymore, I ve never really 
> understood it.
> That 41 was perfect, usable even if you didn't have the book with you.  Sort 
> of like a K3.
> 73,
> Fred K6DGW Sparks NV 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Jim Brown  
> Date: 08/03/2015  14:48  (GMT-08:00) 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a
>  K3/K3S purchase? 
> 
> On Mon,8/3/2015 2:22 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
>>But I spent the past 40 years working with computers and I don't want one 
>> in my shack.
> 
> Hi David,
> It was my second programmable 
> computer -- my first, about four years earlier, was an HP41.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Quick question on HTs to use with my KX3

[Barry Baines]

Mark:

A good starting point on operating hints for the “easy sats” can be found on 
the AMSAT Website.  

See:  http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144

This page is titled “Station and Operating Hints” and includes references to 
various HTs.  There is also a link embedded in that page that will bring up an 
operating guide developed by Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK.  You’ll glean some 
useful information about using an HT with an external antenna of various types.

Most current generation HTs with dual-band capability can be used;  best is to 
have one with duplex capability so that you can listen to your downlink as you 
transmit. The Kenwood TH-D72A has this capability.  Patrick notes this in his 
writeup and mentions various HTs. Some older units are also very good;  my 
personal preference is the Yaesu FT-51R which is duplex but also features an 
external mic that displays frequencies with the ability to change stored 
channels or VFO frequencies using buttons on the mic.  

Check out the AMSAT website for developments regarding the upcoming launches of 
Fox-1A and Fox-1C which are FM birds flying later this year…

Are you coming to Dayton?  AMSAT will have a major presence at Hamvention, 
including satellite demos taking place outside of the Ball Arena. Stop by the 
AMSAT booth area (Ball Arena booths 433-435 and 444-446 across one another) for 
satellite pass times and take a look at the newly revised 2015 edition of 
“Getting Started with Amateur Satellites” which provides a complete overview of 
how to operate a variety of satellites along with discussion of tracking, 
equipment setup, operational considerations, etc.  The book will also be 
available through the AMSAT Store following Dayton.  The AMSAT Forum is 
Saturday from 1115-1330 in Forum Room 5.

73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
President-Radio Amateur Satellite Corp. (AMSAT)


> On May 5, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Mark Tellez  wrote:
> 
> I know this question doesn't directly pertain to the KX3 but I trust the
> guidance of many on this mailing list so I hope you will indulge me in this
> off topic post.   I am looking to combine satellite (easy sats) with my
> portable KX3 fun.   I am therefore wanting to solicit advice on the best
> handheld radio for working satellites or at least directions to a similar
> group or email list to get advice.
> 
> Thanks and have a great day!
> 
> Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Why Upgrade (Was: Re: New K3 Syn)

[Barry Baines]

current owner to 
benefit from those enhancements and not sell the rig in order to gain the 
latest benefits in a different product.  In other words, generally speaking it 
is usually better to pay for incremental improvements in a rig that is already 
paid for than to sell it used (at a discount) and purchas
 e a replacement (new at full retail price) unless the new technology is such a 
game changer that the current value of current products are wiped out.

Clearly this new "widget" has generated lots of buzz.  And those that believe 
the cost of the new widget is "worth it" will buy it now because they believe 
it will bring significant benefit.  If one doesn't see the value of this widget 
relative to other purchasing choices, they will defer on it. 

FWIW & 73,

Barry
WD4ASW 


> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> On 3/2/2015 11:50 AM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> Dave:
>> 
>> You raise an interesting question, and the answer depends upon the 
>> underlying premise that drives your decisions.
>> 
>> If you presume that indeed you plan to sell the rig in a couple of years and 
>> that best way to sell a rig in the future is to have it "current" when you 
>> place it on the market, then presumably that means purchasing upgrades prior 
>> to placing it on the market.  The question then becomes "buy the upgrade now 
>> or buy later?"  The answer depends upon how you view the benefits of the 
>> upgrades:
>> 
>> 1.  Buy it now before potential prices increases later for those upgrades.  
>> There is no guarantee that today's prices will remain unchanged (labor, 
>> materials and other costs of production do change) so this is an assumption 
>> that the likelihood is that prices will go probably go up.
>> 
>> 2.  Recognize that the future value of the radio may be enhanced by adding 
>> the upgrade, but the "net value" of that rig will likely not increase as 
>> much as the cost of the upgrade.  "Depreciation" coupled with the 
>> recognition that there is likely no warranty carry forward if the upgrade is 
>> installed by the prior seller means that the value to the buyer is less than 
>> what you paid for it.  In other words, you'll get more for the rig, but the 
>> numbers may not offset the cost of the upgrade itself.
>> 
>> 3.  If you're going to install the upgrade at some point in the future 
>> anyway and you can afford to pay for it now, why not do the upgrade sooner 
>> rather than later?  That way you'll also gain the benefit of the improvement 
>> for the remaining time that you own that rig, offsetting to some degree the 
>> "cost" of that upgrade through the enjoyment of those enhancements.  This 
>> rationale is similar to your comment about making the purchase because you 
>> want the benefit of the upgrade.  I'm adding to that sentiment by suggesting 
>> that if the purchase will definitely be made at some point, it is better to 
>> do so sooner rather than later so that you can benefit from it as well.
>> 
>> 4. After using the enhancements it may be conceivable that the capabilities 
>> of the "new rig" may preclude the desire to sell it, thus avoiding the pain 
>> and suffering of placing it on the market in the first place and then going 
>> through the process of deciding what to get next.
>> 
>> 5.  Even if we decide not to do the upgrades and later sell the rig, the 
>> relative value of the "base case" is likely enhanced versus other products 
>> because the buyer has the option to add the enhancements.  The rig is not 
>> locked into only those capabilities that existed at the time of production.
>> 
>> The same approach should be considered in other major transactions.  For 
>> example, if you know that you'l be selling your home in 3-5 years and 
>> recognize that some enhancements are needed to improve the marketability, 
>> why not do the upgrades sooner rather than just before placing the home on 
>> the market?  That way you'll have the opportunity to enjoy the enhancements 
>> plus costs never go down, they always go up.  Lock-in those costs earlier 
>> and not pay more later.   Heck, you may decide after doing the enhancements 
>> to not sell after all, which is probably cheaper than going through the pain 
>> and suffering of selling one home, buying another, and then getting the new 
>> home setup the way you want it.
>> 
>> Of course such decisions in amateur radio or other aspects of life are not 
>> always based on "logic" or economics. And each person has a different 
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