Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
My thinking was to restore from an earlier workspace then reinstall the IC-7300 but I will take a look at the controls first. I don't remember making any recent changes to to the control configuration. Russ, KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
Since you use DXLab I'd suggest checking Commander's "User-defined Controls" configuration. Is there a slider for Mic gain? If so, is it configured to "Initialize radio"? In Commander click "Help" then select "sliders" for more info. Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
Why take out the 2nd radio? The problem is in the configuration of the software on the computer. Victor 4X6GP On Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 06:26 Russ Edelen wrote: > Thanks Victor, you called it. Started the K3 and it started with the > correct mic controls. Booted the computer and started DXLab modules and > the mic gain reverted to 1. Now I know where to look. Will start by > removing the second radio, which installed when I sent the K3 back to > Elecraft, and go over the configuration again. > > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > > 73 > > Russ KG7VQ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
Thanks Victor, you called it. Started the K3 and it started with the correct mic controls. Booted the computer and started DXLab modules and the mic gain reverted to 1. Now I know where to look. Will start by removing the second radio, which installed when I sent the K3 back to Elecraft, and go over the configuration again. Thanks for the suggestion. 73 Russ KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
Try this: shut down the computer, and turn the gain (etc.) to their correct settings. Then turn the K3 off and on again. Do the settings reset? If so, the problem is in the K3. If not, it has something to do with the computer and the program. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 16/06/2023 20:54, Russ Edelen wrote: Some further info. Logging and control is via DXlab suite set up per the wiki through a serial port. The controls respond in both directions and the radio functions as expected during nets and general operation after the mic settings are adjusted. The problem only occurs at startup. The k3 and computer are shut down when not in use and the k3 is routed to a dummy load. The computer is powered on first. As I mentioned it's not every time but seems to be more often then not. Thanks for any advice. Russ, KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
Some further info. Logging and control is via DXlab suite set up per the wiki through a serial port. The controls respond in both directions and the radio functions as expected during nets and general operation after the mic settings are adjusted. The problem only occurs at startup. The k3 and computer are shut down when not in use and the k3 is routed to a dummy load. The computer is powered on first. As I mentioned it's not every time but seems to be more often then not. Thanks for any advice. Russ, KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
I forgot to add -- It's also possible (probable?) that your computer program is doing it. Plug in a key or mic and try transmitting without the computer connected. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 16/06/2023 16:46, Russ Edelen wrote: After returning from Elecraft for repair and updating my K3 (1087) will reset it's Mic gain to 1 and Compression to zero. I backed up the radio's configuration when I get it back and reloading it does not solve the problem, which occurs at boot up more times then not. This is a barefoot setup with computer logging/control feeding a 178 foot extended zepp with 450 ohm twin lead. Is this a symptom of RFI to the radio? Anyone have any suggestions? KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
You can determine if it's caused by RFI very easily. Try transmitting into a dummy load. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 16/06/2023 16:46, Russ Edelen wrote: After returning from Elecraft for repair and updating my K3 (1087) will reset it's Mic gain to 1 and Compression to zero. I backed up the radio's configuration when I get it back and reloading it does not solve the problem, which occurs at boot up more times then not. This is a barefoot setup with computer logging/control feeding a 178 foot extended zepp with 450 ohm twin lead. Is this a symptom of RFI to the radio? Anyone have any suggestions? KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] k3 Mic gain self resetting to 1
After returning from Elecraft for repair and updating my K3 (1087) will reset it's Mic gain to 1 and Compression to zero. I backed up the radio's configuration when I get it back and reloading it does not solve the problem, which occurs at boot up more times then not. This is a barefoot setup with computer logging/control feeding a 178 foot extended zepp with 450 ohm twin lead. Is this a symptom of RFI to the radio? Anyone have any suggestions? KG7VQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Mic
Hi, I use a Heil PR 781 with the Heil PL2T boom. Audio reports from my contacts are always good and the K3s transmit audio settings allowed me to taylor the audio to my voice. 73, John WB4YAL Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
Use Low gain setting. "FPl Bias". Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Mar 26, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Tom <tom...@videotron.ca> wrote: > > Hi, > The MIC SEL is front panel, Hi Bias. I have tried all combinations too. > Tom > > -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:48 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 > is too low? > > > What is MENU:MIC SEL ? > > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >> On 3/26/2016 10:33 AM, Tom wrote: >> Hi, >> I seem to have an issue all of a sudden with the mic or radio. It seems >> that if the mic is set to 2 then the output is too high and the ALC meter >> hits 7 or 8 bars. If I turn it down to 1, it barely hits 1 ALC bar. I am >> using the Heil headset that Elecraft sells. >> What am I doing wrong? >> Thanks, Tom >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to li...@subich.com >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
Make sure you are FP.L Bias with an electret mic. FP.H (or rP.H) will make it nearly impossible to set mic gain levels as the electret mic has approximately 20 dB more output than a dynamic mic. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/26/2016 10:57 AM, Tom wrote: Hi, The MIC SEL is front panel, Hi Bias. I have tried all combinations too. Tom -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low? What is MENU:MIC SEL ? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/26/2016 10:33 AM, Tom wrote: Hi, I seem to have an issue all of a sudden with the mic or radio. It seems that if the mic is set to 2 then the output is too high and the ALC meter hits 7 or 8 bars. If I turn it down to 1, it barely hits 1 ALC bar. I am using the Heil headset that Elecraft sells. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Tom --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
Hi, I though I tried this! Yes that does it. Brings it up to a value of 6. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:06 AM To: Tom ; Joe Subich, W4TV ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low? Tom, Tap [1] to change the mic gain range to "L" and you should have more reasonable MIC GAIN settings. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/26/2016 10:57 AM, Tom wrote: Hi, The MIC SEL is front panel, Hi Bias. I have tried all combinations too. Tom -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low? What is MENU:MIC SEL ? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
Tom, Tap [1] to change the mic gain range to "L" and you should have more reasonable MIC GAIN settings. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/26/2016 10:57 AM, Tom wrote: Hi, The MIC SEL is front panel, Hi Bias. I have tried all combinations too. Tom -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low? What is MENU:MIC SEL ? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
Hi, The MIC SEL is front panel, Hi Bias. I have tried all combinations too. Tom -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low? What is MENU:MIC SEL ? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/26/2016 10:33 AM, Tom wrote: Hi, I seem to have an issue all of a sudden with the mic or radio. It seems that if the mic is set to 2 then the output is too high and the ALC meter hits 7 or 8 bars. If I turn it down to 1, it barely hits 1 ALC bar. I am using the Heil headset that Elecraft sells. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Tom --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
What is MENU:MIC SEL ? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/26/2016 10:33 AM, Tom wrote: Hi, I seem to have an issue all of a sudden with the mic or radio. It seems that if the mic is set to 2 then the output is too high and the ALC meter hits 7 or 8 bars. If I turn it down to 1, it barely hits 1 ALC bar. I am using the Heil headset that Elecraft sells. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Tom --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [K3] Mic setting of 2 is too high? and a setting of 1 is too low?
Hi, I seem to have an issue all of a sudden with the mic or radio. It seems that if the mic is set to 2 then the output is too high and the ALC meter hits 7 or 8 bars. If I turn it down to 1, it barely hits 1 ALC bar. I am using the Heil headset that Elecraft sells. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Tom --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic cmp settings with kenwood mc-43s mic
On Thu,10/1/2015 9:51 PM, way235 wrote: I am using a Kenwood MC-43s and had the settings at MIC 13 and CMP 30 when I got the complaints. While talking on the air I changed to MIC 11 and CMP 3 and was told it sounds good now. You're looking at the wrong indicators. Don't look at the numerical values of MIC and CMP, look at the indications of COMP on the meters as you talk. Your results suggest that the mic you're using is pretty hot, so you want to set MIC GAIN to Low in the Menu, then follow instructions in the Manual for setting Mic Gain and COMP. When setting COMP, watch COMP on the meter, and adjust the CMP pot so that you see no more than 10 dB COMP peaks on the meter. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic cmp settings with kenwood mc-43s mic
First from your description, you may have RF getting into the transmit audio. This will sound like distortion and will get worse as the CMP value is increased. I use a Heil PR 781 mike which is a dynamic mike and has much lower output level than the Kenwood MC-43.I run with mike gain such that I see 4 to 5 bars of ALC, no more, and 2 to 4 bars on the CMP scale. This has the CMP value at 12 to 15. With the Kenwood mike, the MIC SEL should be set to FP.L. Then adjust the MIC gain value such that you get 4 to 5 bars of ALC indication. Then set the COMP value such that you get 2 to 4 bars of CMP. In all cases, the CMP indication should not be greater than 10 on the scale. By pressing an holding the MODE switch to get to the TEST mode, and then setting the MON value to about 30, while using headphones you can activate transmit mode and listen to your audio with compressing, EQ and ALC characteristics. If it sounds good in TEST mode it will most likely sound good over the air unless one is getting RF back into the audio. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 10/2/2015 10:54 AM, way235 wrote: Jim I set MIC GAIN to Low in the Menu, then I followed the instructions in the Manual for setting Mic Gain and COMP. I was just giving the number to indicate my settings I am using. I can set the MIC by the instructions but if I set the CMP by the instructions I have distortion. I know a lot of people use the Kenwood MC-43S but maybe it is not the best choice. By talking on the air I had to set CMP to 3 to have good audio. 3 does not even give me an indication on the CMP meter scale. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Mic LED Orange
Hello All: I just installed the DVR in my K3 and now the LED above the mic control is orange and always on. What did I do? Everything works normally, including the DVR. Richard K7SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic LED Orange
Maybe you put the K3 in split mode? Tom wa4ta To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net From: vetteresto...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:08:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mic LED Orange Hello All: I just installed the DVR in my K3 and now the LED above the mic control is orange and always on. What did I do? Everything works normally, including the DVR. Richard K7SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic LED Orange
Thanks Tom. That's all it was...Richard On 8/27/2015 12:22 PM, tom armour wrote: Maybe you put the K3 in split mode? Tom wa4ta To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net From: vetteresto...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:08:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mic LED Orange Hello All: I just installed the DVR in my K3 and now the LED above the mic control is orange and always on. What did I do? Everything works normally, including the DVR. Richard K7SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vetteresto...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [k3] Mic Gain: Option 7
And tap 7 for an additional 10db of gain! I'm sure Its in the book! ...bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: tap MENU to get into MAIN locate MIC SEL tap DISP read the info that scrolls across VFO B it will tell you about toggling Boost Hi/Lo by taping Number 1 on the number pad On 3/12/2014 8:40 PM, John wrote: I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret microphone. The mic is connected to the K3 rear panel mic jack. The Arlan instructions recommend using Option 7 for +10 DB of additional Mic Pre-amp gain for close-talk mics. How do you set Option 7? What menu is it in? Thanks, - 73, John, N0TA -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [k3] Mic Gain: Option 7
Page 20 K3 Owner's man D10.pdf MIC MONO; hi- or low-Z This jack accommodates an electret or dynamic mic. Use MAIN:MIC SEL to select the rear panel mic (RP). Tap 1 to turn on Low or High mic gain range. Tap 2 to turn bias on/off (see pg. 28 for recommendations based on mic type). For the front-panel mic only, additional microphone gain can be enabled by tapping 3 . Use this only for very low-output mics. page 52 K3 Owner's man D10.pdf MIC SEL Mic/line transmit audio source, mic gain range, and mic bias. Source selections: FP (front panel 8-pin MIC jack), RP (rear panel 3.5 mm MIC jack), and LINE IN (rear-panel LINE IN jack). Tap 1 to toggle between .Low and .High mic gain range for the selected mic. Tap 2 to turn mic BIAS on/off (turn on for electret mics). For the front-panel mic only, tap 3 to turn on an additional gain stage. Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H, e.g. H’ . only place I find tap 7 in the manual is under FLx BW on pg 55 also mentioned on pg 24 however when in the MIC SEL menu for the front panel mic taping 3 gives a N/A result taping 7 *WILL* give the desired mic boost for the front panel mic taping 3 or 7 gives a N/A when rear mic is selected I just checked in the ERRATA for the K3 Owners manual and it's not there either looks like there needs to be an editing job in the manual ;-) On 3/13/2014 7:40 AM, bill conkling wrote: And tap 7 for an additional 10db of gain! I'm sure Its in the book! ...bill nr4c /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/ Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: tap MENU to get into MAIN locate MIC SEL tap DISP read the info that scrolls across VFO B it will tell you about toggling Boost Hi/Lo by taping Number 1 on the number pad On 3/12/2014 8:40 PM, John wrote: I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret microphone. The mic is connected to the K3 rear panel mic jack. The Arlan instructions recommend using Option 7 for +10 DB of additional Mic Pre-amp gain for close-talk mics. How do you set Option 7? What menu is it in? Thanks, - 73, John, N0TA -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [k3] Mic Gain: Option 7
Yes the ref to 3 is a long overdue edit. I have used 7 to work with my Heil HM12 in front panel. Was unaware it doesn't work for rear jack. CM500 plugged in there, no need. ...bc Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: Page 20 K3 Owner's man D10.pdf MIC MONO; hi- or low-Z This jack accommodates an electret or dynamic mic. Use MAIN:MIC SEL to select the rear panel mic (RP). Tap 1 to turn on Low or High mic gain range. Tap 2 to turn bias on/off (see pg. 28 for recommendations based on mic type). For the front-panel mic only, additional microphone gain can be enabled by tapping 3 . Use this only for very low-output mics. page 52 K3 Owner's man D10.pdf MIC SEL Mic/line transmit audio source, mic gain range, and mic bias. Source selections: FP (front panel 8-pin MIC jack), RP (rear panel 3.5 mm MIC jack), and LINE IN (rear-panel LINE IN jack). Tap 1 to toggle between .Low and .High mic gain range for the selected mic. Tap 2 to turn mic BIAS on/off (turn on for electret mics). For the front-panel mic only, tap 3 to turn on an additional gain stage. Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H, e.g. H’ . only place I find tap 7 in the manual is under FLx BW on pg 55 also mentioned on pg 24 however when in the MIC SEL menu for the front panel mic taping 3 gives a N/A result taping 7 *WILL* give the desired mic boost for the front panel mic taping 3 or 7 gives a N/A when rear mic is selected I just checked in the ERRATA for the K3 Owners manual and it's not there either looks like there needs to be an editing job in the manual ;-) On 3/13/2014 7:40 AM, bill conkling wrote: And tap 7 for an additional 10db of gain! I'm sure Its in the book! ...bill nr4c /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/ Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: tap MENU to get into MAIN locate MIC SEL tap DISP read the info that scrolls across VFO B it will tell you about toggling Boost Hi/Lo by taping Number 1 on the number pad On 3/12/2014 8:40 PM, John wrote: I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret microphone. The mic is connected to the K3 rear panel mic jack. The Arlan instructions recommend using Option 7 for +10 DB of additional Mic Pre-amp gain for close-talk mics. How do you set Option 7? What menu is it in? Thanks, - 73, John, N0TA -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [k3] Mic Gain: Option 7
I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret microphone. The mic is connected to the K3 rear panel mic jack. The Arlan instructions recommend using Option 7 for +10 DB of additional Mic Pre-amp gain for close-talk mics. How do you set Option 7? What menu is it in? Thanks, - 73, John, N0TA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [k3] Mic Gain: Option 7
tap MENU to get into MAIN locate MIC SEL tap DISP read the info that scrolls across VFO B it will tell you about toggling Boost Hi/Lo by taping Number 1 on the number pad On 3/12/2014 8:40 PM, John wrote: I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret microphone. The mic is connected to the K3 rear panel mic jack. The Arlan instructions recommend using Option 7 for +10 DB of additional Mic Pre-amp gain for close-talk mics. How do you set Option 7? What menu is it in? Thanks, - 73, John, N0TA -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options
The Heil adapter for connecting a 1/8 plug to the 8-pin front panel jack is the AD-1-K. I have my headset connected to the rear panel MIC connector and my computer sound card connected to the rear panel LINE-IN connector. I have not had any problems with it other than forgetting to change the mode to DATA then wondering why I have no audio on the digital modes. As others have mentioned, you may need to just turn off the MIC+LINE setting as this is how my K3 is set up. 73, Mike KI0HA - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25:07 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options Bill, I would suggest that you can obtain a Heil Kenwood adapter that is used for the Elecraft ProSet-K2 (I forget the exact Heil designation) that will allow you to connect the CM500 mic - you will also need a 1/8 inch stereo female to 1/4 inch male adapter to match the headphone jack on the adapter. If using that adapter, you would need to unplug the MH2 and plug in the CM500 (with the adapter) and adjust the mic gain. OTOH, If you want to construct a box with a switch, that will work too. In any case, I would suggest you turn off MIC+LINE unless you are also using a computer to send pre-recorded messages. When you switch to digital modes, the mic sel should be set to LINE IN only - the audio input settings for SSB and digital modes are independent in the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the voice modes (AM, FM SSB, CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.) If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good. So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.) My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options
Thanks Don, Joe, Mike, and Iain for pointing out the MIC+LIN is probably where my problem lies. I set up soundcard modes first and didn't realize that the sound source was remembered by mode. So of course I needed sound from both so I set MIC+LIN. Thanks all - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz| I like the farmers' market | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | because I can get fruits and | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | vegetables without stickers. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options
I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the voice modes (AM, FM SSB, CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.) If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good. So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.) My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options
Bill, Why do you have MIC+LIN on? If you don't need that, turn it off, and set MIC SEL to line in for the digital modes, and RP.L bias for phone modes. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote: I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the voice modes (AM, FM SSB, CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.) If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good. So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.) My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options
MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. *WHY* would you enable Mic+Line? Use Line for data modes and either FP.L or RP.L for voice modes. That way you will not get mic noise in the digital modes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the voice modes (AM, FM SSB, CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.) If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good. So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.) My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options
Bill, I would suggest that you can obtain a Heil Kenwood adapter that is used for the Elecraft ProSet-K2 (I forget the exact Heil designation) that will allow you to connect the CM500 mic - you will also need a 1/8 inch stereo female to 1/4 inch male adapter to match the headphone jack on the adapter. If using that adapter, you would need to unplug the MH2 and plug in the CM500 (with the adapter) and adjust the mic gain. OTOH, If you want to construct a box with a switch, that will work too. In any case, I would suggest you turn off MIC+LINE unless you are also using a computer to send pre-recorded messages. When you switch to digital modes, the mic sel should be set to LINE IN only - the audio input settings for SSB and digital modes are independent in the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the voice modes (AM, FM SSB, CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.) If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good. So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.) My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic noise while monitoring eq.
Hello, While trying to adjust the mic equalisation I am getting a continual low level high end electrical noise, like whistle or very slight feedback through while monitoring on headphones or speaker. With more compression it brings it out more obviously but it is there with no compression. It is there even on low mic gain but much less. It even persists even with no microphone, data lead or cables plugged in. I have unplugged EVERYTHING apart from the power, put monitor speaker on, and PTT and it is there. At zero mic gain no noise but it rises as the mic gain does. If I cut the extreme high end it goes a little but I need some high end boost for my mic. Its not to horrendous, its only just perceptible I shouldn't think it wouldn’t carry through to audio with a 2.7Khz bandwidth but I cant be sure. Can I just assume its just internal noise being picked up on the monitor amp or do I have to worry about my TX audio quality? Has anyone else noticed this effect? Do I have duff mic pre-amp shielding somewhere? Iain __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic noise while monitoring eq.
Iain This rings a bell with me, but it's way back in the past so my memory could be wrong ... Do you have MIC+LIN IN turned on ? (sorry I'm not near the rig at present so the exact terminology may be incorrect). If so try turning it to just MIC on and see if the issue is solved. John G4ZTR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Iain Haywood Sent: 23 March 2013 19:04 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mic noise while monitoring eq. Hello, While trying to adjust the mic equalisation I am getting a continual low level high end electrical noise, like whistle or very slight feedback through while monitoring on headphones or speaker. With more compression it brings it out more obviously but it is there with no compression. It is there even on low mic gain but much less. It even persists even with no microphone, data lead or cables plugged in. I have unplugged EVERYTHING apart from the power, put monitor speaker on, and PTT and it is there. At zero mic gain no noise but it rises as the mic gain does. If I cut the extreme high end it goes a little but I need some high end boost for my mic. Its not to horrendous, its only just perceptible I shouldn't think it wouldn't carry through to audio with a 2.7Khz bandwidth but I cant be sure. Can I just assume its just internal noise being picked up on the monitor amp or do I have to worry about my TX audio quality? Has anyone else noticed this effect? Do I have duff mic pre-amp shielding somewhere? Iain __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8154 (20130323) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8155 (20130323) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic noise while monitoring eq.
Hi, No I'm afraid not. Mic only selected. Iain - Iain This rings a bell with me, but it's way back in the past so my memory could be wrong ... Do you have MIC+LIN IN turned on ? (sorry I'm not near the rig at present so the exact terminology may be incorrect). If so try turning it to just MIC on and see if the issue is solved. John G4ZTR -Original Message- From:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Iain Haywood Sent: 23 March 2013 19:04 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mic noise while monitoring eq. Hello, While trying to adjust the mic equalisation I am getting a continual low level high end electrical noise, like whistle or very slight feedback through while monitoring on headphones or speaker. With more compression it brings it out more obviously but it is there with no compression. It is there even on low mic gain but much less. It even persists even with no microphone, data lead or cables plugged in. I have unplugged EVERYTHING apart from the power, put monitor speaker on, and PTT and it is there. At zero mic gain no noise but it rises as the mic gain does. If I cut the extreme high end it goes a little but I need some high end boost for my mic. Its not to horrendous, its only just perceptible I shouldn't think it wouldn't carry through to audio with a 2.7Khz bandwidth but I cant be sure. Can I just assume its just internal noise being picked up on the monitor amp or do I have to worry about my TX audio quality? Has anyone else noticed this effect? Do I have duff mic pre-amp shielding somewhere? Iain __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic.
Hi, I just ordered my brand new Elecraft K3. I bought a Heil GM4 used last year and I am wondering if I can use that with the K3? 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm@gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic.
I'm using the Goldline, no worries. My MARS buddies tell me the Narrow setting has a lot of punch and always gets through. Disable mic BIAS and use the HI mic gain setting. It will work fine. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:42:37 -0600, you wrote: Hi, I just ordered my brand new Elecraft K3. I bought a Heil GM4 used last year and I am wondering if I can use that with the K3? 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm@gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic.
Thanks Mike. 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm@gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm -Original Message- From: Matt Zilmer [mailto:mzil...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:47 AM To: K5HM Cc: 'Open Mortgage'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic. I'm using the Goldline, no worries. My MARS buddies tell me the Narrow setting has a lot of punch and always gets through. Disable mic BIAS and use the HI mic gain setting. It will work fine. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:42:37 -0600, you wrote: Hi, I just ordered my brand new Elecraft K3. I bought a Heil GM4 used last year and I am wondering if I can use that with the K3? 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm@gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic.
It should work if you use the Kenwood adapter for that microphone. Check the color band on the adapter. I think Kenwood is the red one, but check the adapters at the Heil website just to be certain. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/7/2013 9:42 AM, K5HM wrote: Hi, I just ordered my brand new Elecraft K3. I bought a Heil GM4 used last year and I am wondering if I can use that with the K3? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic
Mike, This is the quote from the Yamaha CM500 advert on Amazon: In Stock. We are not able to ship this item to your default shipping address. 73 Tom G3OLB Amazon ships worldwide, with some restrictions. Their site says the Yamaha CM500 qualifies (consumer electronics). Here's a link to their policies. http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596184 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic
That is a restriction placed by Yamaha - I do not know the reason, but just stating the facts 73, Don W3FPR On 8/15/2012 9:09 AM, Tom Boucher wrote: Mike, This is the quote from the Yamaha CM500 advert on Amazon: In Stock. We are not able to ship this item to your default shipping address. 73 Tom G3OLB Amazon ships worldwide, with some restrictions. Their site says the Yamaha CM500 qualifies (consumer electronics). Here's a link to their policies. http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596184 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic
That will be a marketing control decision. -- Alan, W6AKB On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: That is a restriction placed by Yamaha - I do not know the reason, but just stating the facts 73, Don W3FPR On 8/15/2012 9:09 AM, Tom Boucher wrote: Mike, This is the quote from the Yamaha CM500 advert on Amazon: In Stock. We are not able to ship this item to your default shipping address. 73 Tom G3OLB Amazon ships worldwide, with some restrictions. Their site says the Yamaha CM500 qualifies (consumer electronics). Here's a link to their policies. http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596184 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic
Paul, The Yamaha CM500 is undoubtedly a good choice but is unavailable in Europe - the US suppliers won't ship it to Eu either. A good alternative I found, is the Koss SB/45, which is quite comfortable during long periods of contest operation and has an excellent quality electret mic. It only cost me around GBP25 which is about $37. 73 Tom G3OLB - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic
Amazon ships worldwide, with some restrictions. Their site says the Yamaha CM500 qualifies (consumer electronics). Here's a link to their policies. http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596184 73, Mike NF4L On 8/14/12 1:38 PM, Tom Boucher wrote: Paul, The Yamaha CM500 is undoubtedly a good choice but is unavailable in Europe - the US suppliers won't ship it to Eu either. A good alternative I found, is the Koss SB/45, which is quite comfortable during long periods of contest operation and has an excellent quality electret mic. It only cost me around GBP25 which is about $37. 73 Tom G3OLB - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic Gain
I recently decided to test a very old low output/low impedance hand mic on my K3 when I soon found some confusing information in the latest K3 manual. My K3's firmware is current. I have two concerns: first, pg. 20 of the owner's manual mentions additional mic gain can be enabled by tapping the 3 button in the MAIN:MIC SEL menu but when I tried the radio responded with N/A. I researched the firmware notes and found a change to this control was made back in MCU 4.31 so that this gain 'boost' (to the front panel mic only) can be enabled/disabled by pressing the 7 button, not the 3 button as shown in the manual. Also the boost indicator has changed from ' to a high bar symbol. I'm unclear on the DSP mic boost (H or Hi) reference in the notes. I hope corrections to the K3 owner's manual pages 20 and 52 are on Elecraft's to do list. The second concern involves mic impedance. Except for a brief mention of Low-Z (~600 ohms) on pg. 13 and MIC MONO; hi- or low-Z on pg 20 I haven't found any mention of where Elecraft differentiates between high and low mic impedance nor what may be too high or too low. Do any of you more experienced K3 users and audio professionals know? 73, Gary N6LRV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic Gain
Gary, Regarding the mic Z, you can use any mic, high or low Z. I am using a D104 with my K3, and as you know conventional wisdom says they want extremely high Z. Use what mic you have and use TX EQ to get it to sound good. Rick K2XT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic Gain
On 5/6/2012 9:26 AM, Gary wrote: The second concern involves mic impedance. Except for a brief mention of Low-Z (~600 ohms) on pg. 13 and MIC MONO; hi- or low-Z on pg 20 I haven't found any mention of where Elecraft differentiates between high and low mic impedance nor what may be too high or too low. Do any of you more experienced K3 users and audio professionals know? For all practical purposes, nearly all mics likely to be used with ham gear are low impedance mics. As an audio professional, I own a bunch of low impedance pro mics, some of which have fairly low output. All work just fine with every ham rig I've ever plugged them into. All you need is a properly wired cable adapter. Although I don't own any high-Z mics and haven't tried any with a K3, I would expect them to work fine too, simply because the K3 has such great adaptability in the form of mic gain and TXEQ. I can't comment on changes to firmware and its documentation. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic input rear panel
What is the pinout for K3 rear panel mic input? Looking for how to wire a mic. Didn't see it in the manual. Off-the-shelf mic does seem to work even with K3 set to use rear panel mic. Pete Meier pme...@me.com Amateur Radio Callsign: WK8S || If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. But if you really make them think, they'll hate you - Don Marquis || __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic input rear panel
Hello Pete, The rear panel mic jack is a stereo (T-R-S) jack with the mono mic signal on the tip. The ring is not connected. It is an unbalanced input and accepts balanced or unbalanced dynamic mics but only unbalanced electret condenser mics. When RL.X bias is on, it supplies 8 volts. You can glean most of this by perusing the schematics. You can also see a summary of all the KIO3 connections in the chapter 7 sampler for the KE7X K3 book. Have a look at www.ke7x.com. Cheers and 73, Fred KE7X The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Pete Meier Sent: Fri 12/23/2011 9:24 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mic input rear panel What is the pinout for K3 rear panel mic input? Looking for how to wire a mic. Didn't see it in the manual. Off-the-shelf mic does seem to work even with K3 set to use rear panel mic. Pete Meier pme...@me.com Amateur Radio Callsign: WK8S || If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. But if you really make them think, they'll hate you - Don Marquis || __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
George, Thanks for the settings you quoted below on your mic. Yes, my mic actually works and I am learning that my errors may be in thinking that I do not have to talk close to the mic. I am continuing to experiment today but it will have to wait, taking my wife out on a bird photography trip up in the Skagit Flats. 73, phil, K7PEH On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:19 PM, George A. Thornton wrote: I have a Kenwood MC-60, I bought it new about a year ago for use with an older Kenwood 930s. It has been used lightly and is in good condition. I just tried it on my K3, it works fine for me with the mic preamp off and the K3 set for FP L. I am driving it with mic gain set at about 23, compression high 20's. Audio sounds fine when I test transmit and use the monitor feature to hear myself. During transmit, I am getting strong power out. This mic has not been modified and the pinouts are as delivered from the factory. There is an on-off button on the mic, leave that off. There seems to be no difference whether setting the mic for 50 or 500 ohms. You do need to speak close to the mic when transmitting, it is designed for that kind of use. Maybe there is something wrong with the mic you are using. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:02 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60 So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
Don, Actually, I do have an MC-60A here I guess. It definitely does have the preamp, the battery pack underneath and so on but the mic label on the base says MC-60. I read somewhere on the Internet that the A model is not identified by the label on the base. There is a part of your message that I would like to clarify. I have examined the relevant material in the K3 user guide and still I am not sure. The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. 73, phil, K7PEH On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Phil, You have to get the K3 ALC meter to illuminate 5 to 7 bars with the compression set to zero. That is true with any microphone. According to the G4WPW microphone information, the MC60 mic has no preamp, but has a hi-Z, Lo-Z switch (it should be set to lo-Z for the K3). The M60A has a preamp that needs voltage on pin 5, but unfortunately, that is the part that is not compatible with the K3 which provides voltage in pin 6. In other words, the MC60 will work with the K3, but the MC60A will not work unless you change the microphone plug. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/5/2011 11:02 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
Phil, Actually, you can check out the wiring as well as I can. Schematics and pinout information has been complied on many microphones by G4WPW and can be found at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html - this is a wonderful resource for anyone contemplating use of a microphone that is branded differently from their transceiver. No sense in me reading the schematic and relating it to you when you can do it yourself. From what I see, if you can operate with the preamp off, you do not need to make any changes. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/6/2011 11:24 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: Don, Actually, I do have an MC-60A here I guess. It definitely does have the preamp, the battery pack underneath and so on but the mic label on the base says MC-60. I read somewhere on the Internet that the A model is not identified by the label on the base. There is a part of your message that I would like to clarify. I have examined the relevant material in the K3 user guide and still I am not sure. The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
Yes, I may plan to do that if I decide to keep this mic. The price is OK and I am leaning towards buying it because if I did not want to keep the mic I could probably recover my cost by selling it. phil On Mar 6, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Phil, The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. I have sent you separately the MC-60A manual. In it is a schematic for the microphone/base. The documentation shows that pin 5 is currently connected to the collector of the voltage regulator transistor and pin 6 is currently empty. You should be able to move the wire from pin 5 to pin 6 without difficulty. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/6/2011 11:24 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: Don, Actually, I do have an MC-60A here I guess. It definitely does have the preamp, the battery pack underneath and so on but the mic label on the base says MC-60. I read somewhere on the Internet that the A model is not identified by the label on the base. There is a part of your message that I would like to clarify. I have examined the relevant material in the K3 user guide and still I am not sure. The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. 73, phil, K7PEH On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Phil, You have to get the K3 ALC meter to illuminate 5 to 7 bars with the compression set to zero. That is true with any microphone. According to the G4WPW microphone information, the MC60 mic has no preamp, but has a hi-Z, Lo-Z switch (it should be set to lo-Z for the K3). The M60A has a preamp that needs voltage on pin 5, but unfortunately, that is the part that is not compatible with the K3 which provides voltage in pin 6. In other words, the MC60 will work with the K3, but the MC60A will not work unless you change the microphone plug. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/5/2011 11:02 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3.
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
Coming late to this thread - Phil, don't use the preamp. You do not need it. Open up the mic base and wire around it. It can be a source of RFI. My MIC level is 29, the impedance switch on the mic is at 500 ohms, and I get good audio reports on my MC-60A. The up/down buttons are useful on occasion. Monty K2DLJ On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: Yes, I may plan to do that if I decide to keep this mic. The price is OK and I am leaning towards buying it because if I did not want to keep the mic I could probably recover my cost by selling it. phil On Mar 6, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Phil, The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
You do need to speak close to the mic when transmitting, it is designed for that kind of use. All of the Kenwood dynamic mics (desk or hand) have similar sensitivity based on the specifications ... between -69 and -71 dB at 500 - 600 Ohms. That indicates they are designed for close talking - the hand mics (MC-42S, MC-43S) specify their sensitivity at 2 cm from the mic. Since audio is a square law phenomena, the microphone will be 6 dB less sensitive with each doubling of the distance so working 16 away from a desk mic will result in more than 20 dB less output than holding it 1 from the mouth. Note: the preamp in the MC-60A has a gain of 12 dB (Preamp in = Preamp out). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/6/2011 2:19 AM, George A. Thornton wrote: I have a Kenwood MC-60, I bought it new about a year ago for use with an older Kenwood 930s. It has been used lightly and is in good condition. I just tried it on my K3, it works fine for me with the mic preamp off and the K3 set for FP L. I am driving it with mic gain set at about 23, compression high 20's. Audio sounds fine when I test transmit and use the monitor feature to hear myself. During transmit, I am getting strong power out. This mic has not been modified and the pinouts are as delivered from the factory. There is an on-off button on the mic, leave that off. There seems to be no difference whether setting the mic for 50 or 500 ohms. You do need to speak close to the mic when transmitting, it is designed for that kind of use. Maybe there is something wrong with the mic you are using. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:02 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60 So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
Phil, The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. I have sent you separately the MC-60A manual. In it is a schematic for the microphone/base. The documentation shows that pin 5 is currently connected to the collector of the voltage regulator transistor and pin 6 is currently empty. You should be able to move the wire from pin 5 to pin 6 without difficulty. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/6/2011 11:24 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: Don, Actually, I do have an MC-60A here I guess. It definitely does have the preamp, the battery pack underneath and so on but the mic label on the base says MC-60. I read somewhere on the Internet that the A model is not identified by the label on the base. There is a part of your message that I would like to clarify. I have examined the relevant material in the K3 user guide and still I am not sure. The K3 provides voltage on pin 6 but the MC-60 expects voltage on pin 5. What I don't understand is IF I were to rewire this so that the voltage was placed on pin 5 (I assume I would do this within the base itself and not rewire the actual connector) then do I create a problem for the K3?? I am assuming that I would have to make sure that pin 5 was NOT connected to anything but that I took the pin 6 voltage offered by the K3 and route it to whatever pin 5 was hooked up to. 73, phil, K7PEH On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Phil, You have to get the K3 ALC meter to illuminate 5 to 7 bars with the compression set to zero. That is true with any microphone. According to the G4WPW microphone information, the MC60 mic has no preamp, but has a hi-Z, Lo-Z switch (it should be set to lo-Z for the K3). The M60A has a preamp that needs voltage on pin 5, but unfortunately, that is the part that is not compatible with the K3 which provides voltage in pin 6. In other words, the MC60 will work with the K3, but the MC60A will not work unless you change the microphone plug. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/5/2011 11:02 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help
[Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
Phil, You have to get the K3 ALC meter to illuminate 5 to 7 bars with the compression set to zero. That is true with any microphone. According to the G4WPW microphone information, the MC60 mic has no preamp, but has a hi-Z, Lo-Z switch (it should be set to lo-Z for the K3). The M60A has a preamp that needs voltage on pin 5, but unfortunately, that is the part that is not compatible with the K3 which provides voltage in pin 6. In other words, the MC60 will work with the K3, but the MC60A will not work unless you change the microphone plug. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/5/2011 11:02 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60
I have a Kenwood MC-60, I bought it new about a year ago for use with an older Kenwood 930s. It has been used lightly and is in good condition. I just tried it on my K3, it works fine for me with the mic preamp off and the K3 set for FP L. I am driving it with mic gain set at about 23, compression high 20's. Audio sounds fine when I test transmit and use the monitor feature to hear myself. During transmit, I am getting strong power out. This mic has not been modified and the pinouts are as delivered from the factory. There is an on-off button on the mic, leave that off. There seems to be no difference whether setting the mic for 50 or 500 ohms. You do need to speak close to the mic when transmitting, it is designed for that kind of use. Maybe there is something wrong with the mic you are using. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:02 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic Experimentation with Kenwood MC-60 So, I asked a question late last night but no responses. So, either no one cares or maybe I got lost in the noise. But, that is OK -- I will try again. I am confused and mystified by a mic that I borrowed from a friend to try out with the K3. It is a Kenwood MC-60 and I think it is fairly new and I only have a day or two to play with this so I want to make use of that time. I am discovering that I don't understand all there is about microphones and the K3. For example, when you use the MENU to set the Mic to something like FP.L or FP.H, what is the true meaning of the L and H. I know that the document says Low gain and High gain but how am I to interpret this. Does H mean that the mic has high gain or does it mean that it needs high gain. This MC-60 mic has a preamplifier on it and when this amp is off, I have trouble getting the ALC meter to measure anything. I do the test of speaking normally into the mic but with the mic gain set to 60 I have to either shout or speak VERY CLOSELY to the mic to make the ALC meter move at all. This does not seem right. I get the same behavior whether the mic setting is FP.L or FP.H. By the way, Bias is set off as I believe it should be with a dynamic mic. Now, I have done some tests on-air with a few friends and they say my audio sounds OK. Right now, I have the compression either zero or very low and I am forgetting which audio report I got with which setting. But, the compression setting didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. Also, another question --- this mic has a preamp and I am wondering if there is wisdom in using the preamp versus the mic gain set to a high value on the K3. And, lastly -- I checked the history of some discussion on Kenwood mics and the K3 and I see there is some discussion about the pin wiring of whether pin 5 is used or pin 6 for something or other. I was under the impression that the K3 was using the Kenwood mic wiring so what is this question on pin 5 versus pin 6? Yes, when it comes to microphones I do not know very much. I am about 90 percent CW so I obviously do not care about audio too much but I do want things to sound OK without over driving the K3. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 MIC COMP
Dear Elecrafters, From the beginnig I put my K3#3616 on the air, mid november 2009, Firmware 3.53, I have noticed on ssb to obtain 10 on the CMP bargraph I'm obliged to increase the CMP knob to 20 to see the bargraph +/- 10. I know it is only approximative but is any adjustment available to increase slighty the bargraph excursion ? I haven't see any infos on the adjustment procedure or my eyes missed it. Firmware 4.25 installed Thanks for advises 73's Philippe A65BI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic gain and bias settings
Has anyone else noticed similar? I still haven't gotten a definitive answer, and am curious to see if others had experienced the same. Also, I've noticed that FM always requires a bit more mic gain to achieve the same level of ALC action as opposed to sideband. Can anyone confirm? 73 de James K2QI On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:54 PM, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Elecrafters, I previously posted a question to the group about mic gain settings in conjunction with the Elecraft MH2 hand mic. Prior to the slew of recent firmware updates, I had to set microphone bias to low, and keep the mic gain at 4 or 5. Anything higher, and ALC would start to reduce power. At those settings, speaking normally would give me 5-7 bars of ALC as recommended in the manual. Several folks have written to me stating that their K3 also behaved similarly and thus required the same amount of mic gain as I've written. Today however, after testing firmware versions 4.17, 4.18, and then reverting to 4.14 I've noticed that mic gain now needs to be set to 15 in order to achieve the same results. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this. There doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary in terms of performance, but was curious as to why the sudden difference what else could have been affected. Any thoughts? -- 73 de James K2QI President UNARC/4U1UN -- 73 de James K2QI President UNARC/4U1UN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic gain and bias settings
Hello Philippe, Thanks for the reply. It seems something has changed in the way the K3 handles mic bias and gain with the latest firmware releases. I'm also wondering if there is a difference with the way mic gain is handled between modes; i.e. SSB and FM. I noticed that with FM, I have to crank in a little more mic gain over SSB to get the same amount of ALC action. For example, with 4.14, a mic gain setting of 15 is perfect for SSB while approximately 20 is needed for FM operation. As for the 4U1UN beacon, I'm still working on that issue with UN facilities management. Because of the renovations to the Secretariat, none of our antennas are currently up and the club has no base of operations. Hopefully we'll be back up and running within the next 4 to 6 months. 73 de James K2QI On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Philippe Trottet trot...@unhcr.org wrote: Hi James, I'm also an MH2 user and use MIC Gain=2 and COMP=20 I'm presently at the office (working from Sunday to Thursday, muslim calendar) but I can share with you my TX EQ settings when back home, settings adapted to my medium/high voice. I'm always use the minimum gain as possible to avoid any external noise added to the modulation, and speaking with normal voice around 5 cm from the hand microphone. I faced the same problem as you with 4.17. With 4.18 I have also a slight difference with 4.14 who actually is the best ( on the tx side) See some comments. Other question: Any idea when 4U1UN beacons will be back on the air, as it is a very helpful tool. Bst 73's Philippe A65BI -- 73 de James K2QI President UNARC/4U1UN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 mic gain and bias settings
Greetings Elecrafters, I previously posted a question to the group about mic gain settings in conjunction with the Elecraft MH2 hand mic. Prior to the slew of recent firmware updates, I had to set microphone bias to low, and keep the mic gain at 4 or 5. Anything higher, and ALC would start to reduce power. At those settings, speaking normally would give me 5-7 bars of ALC as recommended in the manual. Several folks have written to me stating that their K3 also behaved similarly and thus required the same amount of mic gain as I've written. Today however, after testing firmware versions 4.17, 4.18, and then reverting to 4.14 I've noticed that mic gain now needs to be set to 15 in order to achieve the same results. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this. There doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary in terms of performance, but was curious as to why the sudden difference what else could have been affected. Any thoughts? -- 73 de James K2QI President UNARC/4U1UN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic gain and bias settings
Hi James, I installed firmware 4.17 then went back to 4.14 yesterday. What I noticed today is that I had to change the mic gain, but in the opposite direction of what you did. I am using a Peltor headset fitted with a HC-4 capsule, and I used mic gain around 20-22, compression 23, no bias, gain high to get 5-6 ALC bars (with compressor turned off, as manual states). Today I had to put mic gain at about 10-11 to have 5-6 bars. I don't know if something is related to upgrading to 4.17 and then back to 4.14, and I don't think it's worth resetting the whole rig, but I had the impression that something more has changed somewhere. Ciao Fabio IZ4AFW / NZ1W Il 07/11/2010 00.54, James Sarte ha scritto: Greetings Elecrafters, I previously posted a question to the group about mic gain settings in conjunction with the Elecraft MH2 hand mic. Prior to the slew of recent firmware updates, I had to set microphone bias to low, and keep the mic gain at 4 or 5. Anything higher, and ALC would start to reduce power. At those settings, speaking normally would give me 5-7 bars of ALC as recommended in the manual. Several folks have written to me stating that their K3 also behaved similarly and thus required the same amount of mic gain as I've written. Today however, after testing firmware versions 4.17, 4.18, and then reverting to 4.14 I've noticed that mic gain now needs to be set to 15 in order to achieve the same results. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this. There doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary in terms of performance, but was curious as to why the sudden difference what else could have been affected. Any thoughts? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned I had some noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background, the other characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched blurbs. I disconnected the computer(RS232 audio IO) and external speakers, and the noise was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it. I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was using a K3, and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic gain was set at 30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops). A gain setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like mild atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then. Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the monitor pick up from received signals, or just the mic? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the monitor pick up from received signals, or just the mic? MON is just Tx. For my CM500 I have RP.L BIAS for mic setting, gain is 10. FOr my voice, CMP14 is about right. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
Mike, That sounds like you have your MIC SEL menu set for H - try tapping the 1 button to change it to L so you can set your mic gain higher (and gives you more range). I don't know if it will help your noise, but it would explain the difference between your setting of 9 and the other fellow's 30. BTW, mine is set at 38 for the Elecraft MD2. 73, Don W3FPR Mike wrote: This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned I had some noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background, the other characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched blurbs. I disconnected the computer(RS232 audio IO) and external speakers, and the noise was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it. I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was using a K3, and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic gain was set at 30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops). A gain setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like mild atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then. Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the monitor pick up from received signals, or just the mic? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
Don and all, I also use the CM-500 and run Bias L Mic @ 19 Comp @ 15 I do have a soft voice and do speak softly as well as I am in a quiet operating position. (Under the awning of my Motorhome) until the Cockatoos start to scream. Gary On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Mike, That sounds like you have your MIC SEL menu set for H - try tapping the 1 button to change it to L so you can set your mic gain higher (and gives you more range). I don't know if it will help your noise, but it would explain the difference between your setting of 9 and the other fellow's 30. BTW, mine is set at 38 for the Elecraft MD2. 73, Don W3FPR Mike wrote: This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned I had some noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background, the other characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched blurbs. I disconnected the computer(RS232 audio IO) and external speakers, and the noise was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it. I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was using a K3, and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic gain was set at 30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops). A gain setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like mild atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then. Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the monitor pick up from received signals, or just the mic? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
Thanks Lyle, Don and Gary. I did have MIC SEL set to high. I set it to L and with the mic gain at 10, I get the correct bars. I'll check later when I can get one of the critical locals on to see if that fixed the XMIT noise, which is what I really want to solve. Mike __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:54:42 -0700, Lyle Johnson wrote: MON is just Tx. For my CM500 I have RP.L BIAS for mic setting, gain is 10. FOr my voice, CMP14 is about right. The CM500 IS hot. I've never noticed, or had complaints, of any background noise. I also run it into the rear panel. Make sure to set the mic gain range to low. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit
I wasn't sure the mic was the source of the noise, but after setting it to L, on air trial indicates that the issue is fully resolved. Thanks again. Mike __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 mic problem solved
It turns out that the rear panel jack is the culprit. I made an XLR to 8 pin cable and a mini TRS to 8 pin cable and tested via the front panel. The mic works just fine. The plan was to use the XLR to mini TRS and connect via the back panel. The cable was tested through the front panel with the second adaptor. This leaves the rear panel jack as the culprit. The Heil PR-20 mic needs higher gain settings than the hand mic I tested and they both needed the higher mic gain to be set via menu. I'll try and diagnose the rear panel jack later and I'm hoping the problem is something simple like a cold solder joint. That might explain the really weak signal when the mic is routed that way. tnx, Jim W5QM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic problems
You may need to update your manual... You should be shooting for only 5-7 bars of ALC. Also make sure that you have compression off when trying to adjust these settings. You can find a copy of the latest manual here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Owner%27s_Manual_Rev_D7sm.pdf Once there take a look at page 28... ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Jim Hoge knowk...@verizon.net wrote: I am need of guidance on all things voice. I have used my K3 (#1816) for some time now but only on cw. With the 6m openings, I decided to put a mic on the radio and promptly ran into problems. I cannot get the mic gain high enough to reach 8 bars per the manual. I can only get close if the mic gain is maxed, the compression is maxed, the menu gain is toggled to the high level, and I shout. I have tried both a hand mic wired through the front panel and an Heil PR-20 wired through the rear panel. I have not played with eq at all yet but I have noticed that there is no mic output unless there is some compression. No compression equals no output. Your help is greatly appreciated. It's probably operator error but I'm too close to see the problem. 73, Jim W5QM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic problems
Jim, If make sure you have the MIC SEL menu item set appropriately for either FP or RP. Also, while the MIC SEL menu item is open, tap the 1 button to toggle between hi and lo gain and if it is an electret mic you should turn the bias on by tapping the 2 button. Hope this helps. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu Jul 1 20:55 , Jim Hoge sent: I am need of guidance on all things voice. I have used my K3 (#1816) for some time now but only on cw. With the 6m openings, I decided to put a mic on the radio and promptly ran into problems. I cannot get the mic gain high enough to reach 8 bars per the manual. I can only get close if the mic gain is maxed, the compression is maxed, the menu gain is toggled to the high level, and I shout. I have tried both a hand mic wired through the front panel and an Heil PR-20 wired through the rear panel. I have not played with eq at all yet but I have noticed that there is no mic output unless there is some compression. No compression equals no output. Your help is greatly appreciated. It's probably operator error but I'm too close to see the problem. 73, Jim W5QM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 mic probs
Tnx to all that responded. I now have the hand mic working as it should be- all it took was to toggle the mic gain to high. However, the mic of choice will be via the rear panel and it will take some more detective work. The manual says it is a mono jack but I think what threw me was that the microKeyer employs a stereo plug. If indeed it is a mono jack, I will need to jumper the ring and the shield on the stereo plug that terminates the mic cord (other end is a 3 pin XLR). The mic is a dynamic one, a Heil PR-20. It seems to make sense that the low levels of less than stellar audio would be due to the return floating in a trs plug when the ring is unconnected. The shield must be picking up some to give me something. The cable is good so only other option is bad mic but I haven't tried it on another radio yet. Sounds like a project for a three day weekend, hi. Does the K3 employ a mono or stero jack for the rear mic connection? tnx es 73, Jim W5QM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic probs
Jim, You can verify by looking at the schematic - but - The rear microphone jack is indeed a stereo jack, but the signal is mono. A stereo plug is just great, the AF line should connect to the tip and the shell. 73, Don W3FPR Jim Hoge wrote: Tnx to all that responded. I now have the hand mic working as it should be- all it took was to toggle the mic gain to high. However, the mic of choice will be via the rear panel and it will take some more detective work. The manual says it is a mono jack but I think what threw me was that the microKeyer employs a stereo plug. If indeed it is a mono jack, I will need to jumper the ring and the shield on the stereo plug that terminates the mic cord (other end is a 3 pin XLR). The mic is a dynamic one, a Heil PR-20. It seems to make sense that the low levels of less than stellar audio would be due to the return floating in a trs plug when the ring is unconnected. The shield must be picking up some to give me something. The cable is good so only other option is bad mic but I haven't tried it on another radio yet. Sounds like a project for a three day weekend, hi. Does the K3 employ a mono or stero jack for the rear mic connection? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic probs
The manual says it is a mono jack but I think what threw me was that the microKeyer employs a stereo plug. If indeed it is a mono jack, I will need to jumper the ring and the shield on the stereo plug that terminates the mic cord (other end is a 3 pin XLR). Like many other manufacturers, Elecraft and microHAM both use TRS plugs and jacks in Mono mode simply by floating the ring. You should not jumper the ring and the sleeve - there is no need to do so as the sleeve contact in three conductor jacks is very close to the base of the plug (front panel). The shield must be picking up some to give me something. The expected connection for ANY dynamic microphone in both the K3 (rear panel) and microHAM microKEYER II (front panel- EXT Mic) is mic hot to the tip and mic return to the sleeve. The shield should float when using a mono input; it should be tied to the CHASSIS (shell) when using balanced input connection (e.g., a Foster, XLR connector or even a STEREO input TRS jack). 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 7/2/2010 11:21 AM, Jim Hoge wrote: Tnx to all that responded. I now have the hand mic working as it should be- all it took was to toggle the mic gain to high. However, the mic of choice will be via the rear panel and it will take some more detective work. The manual says it is a mono jack but I think what threw me was that the microKeyer employs a stereo plug. If indeed it is a mono jack, I will need to jumper the ring and the shield on the stereo plug that terminates the mic cord (other end is a 3 pin XLR). The mic is a dynamic one, a Heil PR-20. It seems to make sense that the low levels of less than stellar audio would be due to the return floating in a trs plug when the ring is unconnected. The shield must be picking up some to give me something. The cable is good so only other option is bad mic but I haven't tried it on another radio yet. Sounds like a project for a three day weekend, hi. Does the K3 employ a mono or stero jack for the rear mic connection? tnx es 73, Jim W5QM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 mic problems
I am need of guidance on all things voice. I have used my K3 (#1816) for some time now but only on cw. With the 6m openings, I decided to put a mic on the radio and promptly ran into problems. I cannot get the mic gain high enough to reach 8 bars per the manual. I can only get close if the mic gain is maxed, the compression is maxed, the menu gain is toggled to the high level, and I shout. I have tried both a hand mic wired through the front panel and an Heil PR-20 wired through the rear panel. I have not played with eq at all yet but I have noticed that there is no mic output unless there is some compression. No compression equals no output. Your help is greatly appreciated. It's probably operator error but I'm too close to see the problem. 73, Jim W5QM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic questions
I recently sold my Ten-Tec Omni VI and about to buy a K3. I have a Heil B10 boom headset wired with the Ten-Tec 4-pin connector. I believe it has the HC-5 element. I'm not a heavy phone operator but use the headset for contests. I also have a K2 with an ICOM HM-36 mic. Is the BM-10 worth keeping for the K3? Do I only need to re-wire the 4- pin connector to the correct pin-outs for a K3 or am I better off parting with the BM-10 for a more compatible mic? How is the HM-36 as a mic for the K3? Any comments appreciated. Thanks, Phil N3ZP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic questions
Phil, You would have to rewire the HM-36 for use with the K3 - the K3 uses a fixed microphone jack pinout (unlike the K2 which can be configured or many microphones). The Heil B10 microphone can be used if you change the Heil adapter to a Kenwood type 9or create your own adapter. The tone of your question tells me that you are capable of building your own adapter. Download the Elecraft K3 manual to see the microphone jack pinout. 73, Don W3FPR Phillip Zminda wrote: I recently sold my Ten-Tec Omni VI and about to buy a K3. I have a Heil B10 boom headset wired with the Ten-Tec 4-pin connector. I believe it has the HC-5 element. I'm not a heavy phone operator but use the headset for contests. I also have a K2 with an ICOM HM-36 mic. Is the BM-10 worth keeping for the K3? Do I only need to re-wire the 4- pin connector to the correct pin-outs for a K3 or am I better off parting with the BM-10 for a more compatible mic? How is the HM-36 as a mic for the K3? Any comments appreciated. Thanks, Phil N3ZP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic questions
And the HC-5 sounds very nice with the K3. 73, Tony W7GO Don Wilhelm wrote: Phil, You would have to rewire the HM-36 for use with the K3 - the K3 uses a fixed microphone jack pinout (unlike the K2 which can be configured or many microphones). The Heil B10 microphone can be used if you change the Heil adapter to a Kenwood type 9or create your own adapter. The tone of your question tells me that you are capable of building your own adapter. Download the Elecraft K3 manual to see the microphone jack pinout. 73, Don W3FPR Phillip Zminda wrote: I recently sold my Ten-Tec Omni VI and about to buy a K3. I have a Heil B10 boom headset wired with the Ten-Tec 4-pin connector. I believe it has the HC-5 element. I'm not a heavy phone operator but use the headset for contests. I also have a K2 with an ICOM HM-36 mic. Is the BM-10 worth keeping for the K3? Do I only need to re-wire the 4- pin connector to the correct pin-outs for a K3 or am I better off parting with the BM-10 for a more compatible mic? How is the HM-36 as a mic for the K3? Any comments appreciated. Thanks, Phil N3ZP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic adjustment - How not to do it. :)
Hello Bob, i have a Kenwood MC-60 and a cheap headset connected to the K3. Also a Kenwood MC-43 is working very well. Mabe try this adjustment for a start: CMP: 18 Mic gain : 30 (depending on the H or L adjustment in the menue) TX EQ: 50 0 100 +8 200 +4 400 -3 800 -3 1600 +2 2400 +10 3200 +11 On the air reports are outstanding with this adjustment, with or without ESSB enabled. 73 Michael DL5OCD -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-adjustment-How-not-to-do-it-tp4572806p4573899.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic adjustment - How not to do it. :)
I got the MH2 with my K3 and it works fine but I then bought a NIB Radio Shack dynamic studio mike (33-3038) off Ebay for $15 and I get great audio reports. Hooked it up to the rear mic input and use VOX with the mic mounted on a converted lamp boom. Works as well as a friend's that has $150 invested in a Heil mic and boom :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-adjustment-How-not-to-do-it-tp4572806p4575538.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic adjustment - How not to do it. :)
Well K3 number 3903 has been online for 12 days now. I bought it mostly for CW and digital, but a few days ago, I figured I should wire up a mic. So since I have a few Yaesu hand mics, I rewired the 8-pin plug for the K3. That worked fine, but setting the EQ has been a nightmare. Monitoring from the K3 headphone jack and the receive on the Mark-V sounded weird, like it was through DSP noise reduction. I tried other dynamic mics in the rear panel and still, just a strange hollow sound. Tonight, I decided to make an MP3 recording to send to Elecraft tomorrow, to see what is wrong with my otherwise perfect K3. Guess what, nothing is wrong? It sounds normal. Now I realize that there is a small delay as the audio is run through the ADC, DSP, then DAC. It is only a few milliseconds, but when the headphone audio is mixed with your actual voice through bone conduction to the eardrums, you have a weird audio effect that is not true to the actual sound. The EQ is also impossible to adjust properly. My on the air reports were not good, as I had way too much high end EQ set to counter the lows from bone conduction. So my conclusion is that the only way to do it right, is to transmit to a seperate receiver that is feeding audio into a soundcard. Record the audio, then play it back. This effect doesn't seem as significant with an analog (no delay) audio chain, but I bet I can get the Mark-V sounding better by recording reception of the Mark-V on the K3. Maybe I can get on the Elecraft SSB net next Sunday to see if this all works. :) Hope this makes some sense, and helps others with audio setup. 73 - Bob -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-adjustment-How-not-to-do-it-tp4572806p4572806.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic adjustment - How not to do it. :)
Perhaps you could use the DVR (if you had it) to record your voice and then play it back... ~Brett On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 19:58 -0800, Bob - W0GI wrote: Well K3 number 3903 has been online for 12 days now. I bought it mostly for CW and digital, but a few days ago, I figured I should wire up a mic. So since I have a few Yaesu hand mics, I rewired the 8-pin plug for the K3. That worked fine, but setting the EQ has been a nightmare. Monitoring from the K3 headphone jack and the receive on the Mark-V sounded weird, like it was through DSP noise reduction. I tried other dynamic mics in the rear panel and still, just a strange hollow sound. Tonight, I decided to make an MP3 recording to send to Elecraft tomorrow, to see what is wrong with my otherwise perfect K3. Guess what, nothing is wrong? It sounds normal. Now I realize that there is a small delay as the audio is run through the ADC, DSP, then DAC. It is only a few milliseconds, but when the headphone audio is mixed with your actual voice through bone conduction to the eardrums, you have a weird audio effect that is not true to the actual sound. The EQ is also impossible to adjust properly. My on the air reports were not good, as I had way too much high end EQ set to counter the lows from bone conduction. So my conclusion is that the only way to do it right, is to transmit to a seperate receiver that is feeding audio into a soundcard. Record the audio, then play it back. This effect doesn't seem as significant with an analog (no delay) audio chain, but I bet I can get the Mark-V sounding better by recording reception of the Mark-V on the K3. Maybe I can get on the Elecraft SSB net next Sunday to see if this all works. :) Hope this makes some sense, and helps others with audio setup. 73 - Bob __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic adjustment - How not to do it. :)
Perhaps you could use the DVR (if you had it) to record your voice and then play it back... ~Brett . Recording into HRD audio grabber to the PC is working fine, but I do want to get a KDVR3, when I have the money to order one. The Yaesu hand mic is pretty bad. I put a dynamic mic into the rear, and it sounds pretty good, but I don't want a desk mic for the K3, so I am going to try a cheap condenser element in the Yaesu mic housing. I bet it will work great. I am a cheap SOB, but I am starting to think that I may order an AM filter, and setup ESSB (maybe 3K) for ragchew, and the 2.7 for a tighter pattern. It is nice to have options. :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-adjustment-How-not-to-do-it-tp4572806p4573114.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic
Jeff KB2M wrote; By the way Jim, are you always this grouchy? End Snip Yep, he is...(:-)) Gary VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic
(Snip) Another guy told me I had such nice audio I must be using an Elecraft ... I suspect he is a member of this list and recognised my callsign ;) (End Snip) Or maybe he was your Father?(:-)) I often get very nice compliments on my audio which given my crummy voice, I find very satisfying..(:-)) Gary VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic Suggestions
I am using K3 with HC5. This is the most efficient combination of all I tried. Mic gain about 17 at HI setting and compression 20 for stateside, 25 for DX and 28 in pileups. The only distortion I had was when the HC5 connection was intermittent. Ignacy -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-Mic-Suggestions-tp3950338p3954796.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 Mic Suggestions
Hi I have the following settings for SSB: Mic: Turner +3 (set to position 1 on the mic) Mic Gain: 27 CMP: 19 EQ- Flat Many unsolicited compliments on the k3 audio. Checked on a HP spec-an shows very good audio waveform I have not changed these settings for months but I do audio checks using headphones and Mon set at 10 from time to time. Hope this helps. Gary VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 Mic Suggestions
What has yet to be said in this worthy discussion is the simple reminder that some human voices just naturally sound lousy regardless of the microphone, transceiver, or speaking technique. Forty years of chain smoking exacts a price. Inarticulation cannot be electronically cleaned. Swallowing the mic, is as much operator error as forgetting to turn on SPLIT. Not even the minds at Aptos and Fairview Heights can overcome human frailties. 73, Kent K9ZTV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 Mic Suggestions
Hi Everyone, I use a Heil PR-781 with my K3 using the K3 EQ and managing it with the K3_EZ Program from N2BC. Many different EQ settings yield some really nice audio. Excellent comments over the air. Not too expensive either. My $.02 73 de N1LQ-Dave __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (K3) MIC+LIN
Al - MIC+LIN works as described - I use it for all digital mode work, leaving the radio in SSB mode. Be sure to set LINE IN level before engaging MIC+LIN. Monty K2DLJ Does MIC+LIN work as described in the manual, or not yet? Thanks, Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] (K3) MIC+LIN
Does MIC+LIN work as described in the manual, or not yet? Thanks, Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
On 2009-05-14, at 14:26 , Terry Dunlap wrote: I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) I'm the author of the post that Bill (W4ZV) quoted. My experiments with the PowerMate are recent and on-going. I'm considering modifying my software to support more than one PowerMate :-) It's rather handy to be able to change the *receive* frequency while transmitting, without disrupting the transmit frequency or the formation of Morse characters. Some radios severely hose CW if you fiddle with front panel controls while transmitting. The K3 is pretty good about this, but not yet perfect. W4NL noted that the TenTec 315 soft-rubber trim rings fit the K3 VFOA knob nicely. They also fit the PowerMate knob, although not quite as snugly; no comment on color choices. Bill, K1GQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? The manual doesn't make sense. It tells how they are supposed to work and how to enable them in the menu but also says Mic function buttons not supported. Now is the Mic function button the same thing as a mic up/down button? Does not supported mean the same thing as won't work or does it mean might work but we don't support it or does it mean something entirely different. When I try to use them I get a N/A on the display so I assume they work but just don't work correctly and that's the way it's supposed to be. I know this is wordy but so is the manual. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Steve, Mic up/down buttons work on my Icom marine HM107B mic. Function (third) button not yet implemented. How about activating your tuner with it? Or make it freely assignable (even better). 73' Paul PD0PSB Steve Ellington wrote: Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? The manual doesn't make sense. It tells how they are supposed to work and how to enable them in the menu but also says Mic function buttons not supported. Now is the Mic function button the same thing as a mic up/down button? Does not supported mean the same thing as won't work or does it mean might work but we don't support it or does it mean something entirely different. When I try to use them I get a N/A on the display so I assume they work but just don't work correctly and that's the way it's supposed to be. I know this is wordy but so is the manual. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2891974.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Really? How do you activate them? I tried grounding them and got the N/A. Must be another way. I was thinking of rigging up an optical encoder, knob etc. and creating a remote knob like TenTec has. I do have config:mic btn enabled. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: pd0psb p.s.bijp...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons Steve, Mic up/down buttons work on my Icom marine HM107B mic. Function (third) button not yet implemented. How about activating your tuner with it? Or make it freely assignable (even better). 73' Paul PD0PSB Steve Ellington wrote: Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? The manual doesn't make sense. It tells how they are supposed to work and how to enable them in the menu but also says Mic function buttons not supported. Now is the Mic function button the same thing as a mic up/down button? Does not supported mean the same thing as won't work or does it mean might work but we don't support it or does it mean something entirely different. When I try to use them I get a N/A on the display so I assume they work but just don't work correctly and that's the way it's supposed to be. I know this is wordy but so is the manual. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2891974.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Hi Steve, I just enabled in the CONFIG menu,and wired the mic according to schematics. Buttons between up/down line and grounding. Icom uses a resistor scheme for switching so the HM107B had a small rewiring inside. The reaction of up/down btw is not fast! So using an encoder on these lines will probably be kind of sluggish Better to do that by serial data. 73' Paul PD0PSB Really? How do you activate them? I tried grounding them and got the N/A. Must be another way. I was thinking of rigging up an optical encoder, knob etc. and creating a remote knob like TenTec has. I do have config:mic btn enabled. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2894193.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
